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Episode Date: November 21, 2025

Today is a traditional Q & A episode, answering listerner-submitted questions. For those wondering how to submit a question, just shoot me an email: andystumpf212@gmail.com Here is what I covered: -My... thoughts on the 25 Million Dollar Rob O'Neill lawsuit -Advice for a Police Officer getting ready to patrol on his own -Parenting suggestions for the jump from childhood to young adulthood -How to deal with a Stepson who seems unwilling to do anything productive Enjoy!   Today's sponsors: Firecracker Farm: https://www.firecracker.farm Pique: Get 20% off + a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first purchase with my link https://Piquelife.com/CLEAREDHOT  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, got to red smoke. Oh, west of the smoke. Okay, Kathy, west of the smoke. I'm looking at danger close now. Come on, baby. What's going on, everybody? We're back. Today, traditional Full Auto Friday.
Starting point is 00:00:24 My dad just hit me up, was it yesterday? Earlier this week saying he would like to do another episode. So I think next week we're going to do that. And then I've had a few people request an episode with my dad and my wife Leah and of course Michael would be in the room as well that's about as far as I can push it getting out of control with my pops no idea where that kind of episode would go but today traditional Q&A next week I think yeah we'll get old Dick Broome actual in here but for this week let's get through it question one this is kind of coming out of the most recent news
Starting point is 00:01:08 What are your opinions on the Rob O'Neill lawsuit? And would you ever get any 2-2-S-A-S guys on the podcast? The easy part of this, 2-2-S-A-S-S, yes, absolutely, open invite for anybody with that background that may want to travel to Montana for a day and do an episode. Love to have you on. That's an easy one. The Rob-O-Neal lawsuit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I just yesterday recorded an episode with Brent Tucker, formerly of the anti-hero. formerly of the anti-hero podcast. Now he has his own podcast, the Tier 1 podcast, a variety of brands, FRCC coffee. There's some cigars associated with that. Some I think it was bourbon might be whiskey associated with that as well. But he is the man who is on the receiving end of the lawsuit from Rob O'Neill. Having read the lawsuit, saw a headline.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We talked about it on the show. That'll be out in a couple weeks. I will, to the best of my ability, I think it's a, defamation lawsuit. I don't know. Slander, whatever it may be. Rob is suing Brent for $25 million saying that he has been wronged, has lost income, drastic amounts of income because Brent has done at least one episode, potentially has talked about it on more than one around the topic of whether or not Rob's narrative about being the man who killed Osama bin Laden is accurate. That is my description of having not read the lawsuit, the wavetops of my understanding of what's going on.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I have been asked about this particular incident or objective, Neptune Spear was the name of the objective, for years. And I always say exactly the same thing. And I'll start with it here, just so people understand where I, am coming from. And Rob, if you want to sue me for saying this, by all means, go ahead. I'm literally repeating things that other people have said to me. And I always leave it up to the individual to make up their own mind. But it starts with this. I wasn't there. I wasn't on target. I was in the military at the time. I was no longer at that command. No insight or information at that time. but I did know and do know other people that were still at the command and people that were on that objective.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And what I have consistently said is this, in my conversations with them, people that I deeply respect, that I trust and I have no reason to question what they would tell me. And what they have told me has been in private, not in public. So I don't know why they would have any reason to conspire together to make this up. Because this is more than one person that I've spoken to. But yet what they told me was the same. And what they told me is that their version, what they witnessed, what they experienced, does not align with Rob's story. Now, that is not me saying whether or not Rob is a liar.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I am repeating what people who were there have told me. The reality is this. I don't know because I wasn't there. An even deeper reality. And maybe this is just me, is that I don't care. I don't care who killed Osama bin Laden. I don't care if every single person on target shot him. It doesn't matter to me.
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Starting point is 00:06:45 I care that it. it happened. I'm glad that the dude no longer is consuming oxygen, but that's kind of the limit. To me, it doesn't matter who is associated or attributed with the final shots that might have killed Osama bin Laden. And again, maybe that's just me because those things to me just don't matter. I can understand why others may be more interested in it, may have a more emotional attachment to it. But I guess that's neat. neither here nor there. The lawsuit, to a degree, I don't understand it because it's civil, not criminal to my understanding, but a lawsuit cuts in two directions. The discovery process
Starting point is 00:07:41 where you can gather information, determine who you are going to subpoena, you can subpoena people, you can depose people. Let's say that the same people that I have spoken to were telling me the truth and they get subpoenaed and they get deposed. That isn't going to work out very well for Mr. O'Neill. And actually what I think bothers me the most. I don't know if that's the right word. What is unsettling to me the most about this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:08:22 thing. And I'm going to roll in Tim Kennedy into this, the situation involving him. What is the most unsettling to me about that situation as well? And the reason I'm combining the two is my concern is exactly the same. It erodes the integrity and validity of all veterans. Because in addition to being asked about Tim, in addition to being asked about Rob, one of, I'm not going to say the most common questions that I get because it's not the most common, but it is common and it does happen on a relatively frequent interval, which is accelerating. The question I get is, how do I know who to trust? And that's a tough one to answer, especially when there are public situations like this that are blowing up in people's faces. because of their own actions, the words that they decided to say, the lies that they decided to tell, the narratives that they decided to spin, the monetary things that came from that, the deals that they work their way into, all of those things when it unwinds, yeah, I'm sure that's a rough mile to walk in that person's shoes, but it also impacts the veteran community equally.
Starting point is 00:09:46 That to me is more concerning. I think that service in uniform for something greater than yourself is incredibly honorable, regardless of the type of service that you have done. And that service should mean something. And there should be a level of integrity and a level of trust. And I say that knowing that a community of people, in this case, veterans writ large, is a collection of individuals. Not all individuals will always rise to the standard bet for that community.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And that's okay. And, you know, when I talk about things like police or government entities, or agencies. I try to always say the same thing that the individuals falling short of those particular standards do not reflect the greater standards of the community at a whole. But you also can't ignore their actions. And sometimes it gets so loud and so visible and so public that it has a cascading negative effect on everybody else. And I think that's what's happening in this situation. I would be shocked if it actually goes to court because I think if it were to go that way in the discovery and the deposition process, some version of a historical, truthful event is going to
Starting point is 00:10:55 play itself out. And from the best that I can determine, that's not going to help those who are in the public spectacle currently around this. And that is going to negatively impact future opportunities way more than somebody doing a podcast episode about the legitimacy or lack thereof of somebody's story. It's a total shit show from what it seems to be. I don't know where you come up with the monetary figure of $25 million. Maybe that's a lawyer thing that they come up with. I don't think it's actually going to adjudicate itself in court. I don't think it's going to get that far because it's going to be so messy for the person who filed the lawsuit. But when people ask me my opinion, that's how I feel about it. Do I really, do I really care? Not really.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I only care because of the cascading downstream consequences of anybody else who either came from the SEAL community or the veteran community or fill in the blank. I don't like seeing things play themselves out that erode integrity and honor. And I've said this so many times. And I said it on the podcast with Brent. People are free to do what they want to with their experiences. Take whatever experiences you have, you have earned the right to do with them what you want. If you decide to do with them things that have potentially negative consequences, that is on you.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And I largely have no issue with any direction that somebody wants to go with their experiences until they bump up against the truth. If you start taking your experiences and you deviate from the truth, I have a problem. And I don't have a problem at all with you being held accountable for that. I have no problem at all with that being held to account being painful, economically, socially, et cetera. Because guess what? You wrote that check. Now you get to cash it. So on this one, I am on the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I don't have any insider baseball or information other than honestly repeating the things that I have been told by people who were there. At this point, it's out of my hands. It's actually always been out of my hands because I've always been out of my hands because I've always. said the same thing. I can only give you, I guess, what would be third hand or secondhand information at that time. And that's it. I make no claims. I can just honestly answer based off the information that I was given by people that I immensely trust and respect. How this plays itself out? I don't know. Is this good for the veteran community in any way? Nope. It makes it harder to answer the question. how do I know who to trust?
Starting point is 00:13:47 And in a section, I believe, of the lawsuit, and this came from Rob's side towards Brent, I believe I saw something along lines of him saying, you know, enough is enough. The veterans attacking veterans, this has to end. Well, I would like to see that end. But who else has the experience, the knowledge,
Starting point is 00:14:14 and ability to check the veteran community other than veterans. So you can't have your cake and eat it too on this one. If you want it to stop, okay, then stop lying. And I'm not talking about Rob here. I'm talking about if you want to see vets stop coming after other vets, then stop lying about the stuff you did or didn't do. Because that removes the motivation to do that. are there people out there that are or could be jealous because of somebody else's either
Starting point is 00:14:48 platform position or success for sure that happens everywhere and is there some smack talking that can occur because of that yes absolutely i'd put that into the well let's be generous to say that that's 50% of it well i'd love to see the other 50% go away where vets are checking other vets for being distruthful or dishonest and the only way for that to happen is for them to stop being in that manner so maybe if you can stop doing that that point portion of it would happen. So we shall see where this goes. This is a kind of a popcorn thing for me, meaning I'm going to pop some popcorn and sit on the sidelines and not want to watch this movie at all, but I'm going to because I guess I'm at least a little bit peripherally attached based off some
Starting point is 00:15:30 occupational background from well over a decade ago, but nothing good comes from it. And if I was a betting man, which I'm not, I'm willing to take risks, but I tried never to gamble. And this would be gambling. I would put money a very small amount of money. We'll put it, we'll call a dollar. I put a dollar on the fact it never goes to court. I just don't see it doing that. I think the flashlight of truth will be a little bit too much scrutiny for some of these parties to handle. And that is all I have to say about that. Question numero dose. Andy, I've been listening to the podcast for a long time and I've always wanted to send in a question. So today is the day. and I hope that this gets to you.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Before my question, I did want to say thank you for taking the time to do these. Truly enjoy listening to all of them and looking forward to hearing a response onto my question. On that, I enjoy doing them as well. I like getting the questions. I am honored that people are interested in what my opinion is, especially on things where I don't have any direct experience. And you're actually about to ask me a question where I don't have any direct experience. Maybe some, there's some tangents that have a little bit of parallel nature from my old job
Starting point is 00:16:41 and the one that you are entering into. But how could you not be humbled and grateful that people value your opinion enough that they continue to reach out for it? So I take as much joy and entertainment and pleasure out of answering these questions as hopefully people are getting from the responses. The question reads,
Starting point is 00:17:00 I'm 28 and recently graduated a police academy. I started my field training at the end of August and I'm about to be on the road by myself. I work at a small department where there is usually only two city guys working at night. I feel like I've learned so much over the past few months, but I can't say I'm not extremely nervous to be out there by myself. With it being a small department, a lot of the times I'll be handling these calls all by myself on the busy nights, and I can't help but feel
Starting point is 00:17:29 like I'm not ready. I've gotten a lot of compliments on my ability to talk to people and calm down, I'm assuming you mean people, which is always nice to hear, but with the broad range of things we deal with, I fear that I'll forget how to handle certain calls at times and be left alone to try to sort it out. I find myself struggling to remember things at times. And my worry is I'm going to completely mess something up and violate somebody's rights or make an ass out of myself by forgetting how to handle a situation that I never got to experience with my training, my trainer, or something I've only had to handle one time prior. I've been trying my best to keep up with everything and be a professional, but I feel like there is still so much to learn and remember. I know they wouldn't put me out there by
Starting point is 00:18:16 myself if I wasn't ready, but I just have these concerns because I really do care about the job. And I want to do well here. I feel like there's a million and one things to remember and different ways to solve the same problems. And I'm struggling with this feeling of am I truly ready and do I really know what I'm doing? So my big question is this. Is this something that you have struggled with before? and do you have any advice on how to feel more confident in doing a new job that has a lot of things always going on? I want to be the best officer I can be, and I aspire to be how some of my colleagues are who seem unfazed by any of the calls we get and always seem to know what they're doing and what's going on. Anyway, thank you for your time, and I'm looking forward to response.
Starting point is 00:19:06 What a fantastic question. You know, there's a reason why some of your colleagues, seem unfazed by any of the calls that they get and they always seem to know what they're doing and what's going on and that is because they have more experience than you they have reps and I tell you what experience is something that I have never been able to find a way to short circuit or short cut and I actually don't think you should try to do either of those things you can watch as many videos as you want. You could attend as many training seminars as you want. You could have coaches. You could do online courses. Whatever it is, there is a difference between academic principles and real world execution of concepts. And the only bridge that I've ever
Starting point is 00:20:01 found between those two is reps. And reps take time. And that, is a tough pill to swallow, especially for somebody who is getting ready to finish their FTO phase and be out there on their own in their own vehicle, whether it's a police car or sheriff's department vehicle. I can only imagine how that feels. I've never experienced that because the minimum fighting force size in the community I came from was two. And I tell you what, it is soothing to be able to look left or right and know that you are at least with somebody else prepared to confront the potential unknown, whether that be risk or danger or fear or all of those things wrapped up into one delicious dessert.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It's way easier knowing that you are going to be working through that with somebody because you have somebody to bounce ideas off at a very minimum. and you can draft off of each other. You could pull from their experience, and at times they could pull from yours. Now, that option isn't available to you. But I will say this. Remind yourself this.
Starting point is 00:21:17 The officers that you mentioned at the tail into this email, that you aspire to be like, because they seem unfazed by the calls, and they always know what they have going on. They were in your shoes at one point in their career. They successfully made it from that position to where you. you view them now and you can do exactly the same thing. Remember that. Remind yourself of that.
Starting point is 00:21:45 They made mistakes. They had times in situations where they didn't know what to do. The best advice I can give you on this is control the speed as much as possible. And I'm not talking about a vehicle. don't rush into making a bad decision. If you are uncertain about something, take as much time as possible and as much time as necessary or available to come to the conclusion and decision that you are going to action.
Starting point is 00:22:31 When you have less experience, rushing a junior person to a decision, to a decision-making point that is at the limit of their knowledge is a very easy way to push them towards failure. Now, I do believe when it comes to training, people should constantly be pushing their limits, right? You should be flirting with failure, succeeding about 80% of the time, failing about 20, taking the lessons learned from that 20%, changing your training and constantly keeping it
Starting point is 00:23:01 at that level, understanding your threshold. That's in a training environment. you're about to step out into the real world by yourself. So don't artificially impose a timeline on yourself that forces you to make a bad decision and what you think is a time compressed environment when it's not. I have never walked a single inch in the shoes of a police officer. I consider myself to be fortunate that I am friends with many. And I would say most of them that I am friends with,
Starting point is 00:23:33 the majority of the friends I have in law enforcement are on the tail end of their career, not the beginning, even though I do know a couple who are on the beginning as well. The ones that you are describing who have an understanding of what is going on and they can maintain their cool, calm collectiveness and they just kind of know what to do, I know how they got there. And it's what I said earlier already in this response. And it's because of the reps. It's because of what they've seen over a very expansive period of time. You will become that person if you stick with this. But it just takes that time.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I'm also, as I said, I've never walked a single inch in your shoes. I would say for any law enforcement officer who hears this, who has advice in addition to what I'm giving to this person, please put it in the comments because I understand, I think, largely the law enforcement role, but I don't understand the exact day-to-day things that you may be facing. I've never gone through an academy and then into the FTO or field training officer and then been released into the wild on my own. But I feel like there are some listeners who have. So do me a favor if you hear this and you're in that position. Drop something into the comments. And if you're the
Starting point is 00:24:44 person that wrote this, do me a favor and go look through them for that advice because I bet you it will be more specific to what you are experiencing. Now, you're talking about unknowingly violating people's rights. You know, in the conversations I've had with my law enforcement friends, They don't know every law at all. You know, I think before the era of driving around with a laptop in your vehicle, I'm pretty sure my friends have told me that they had an actual book of laws, state and federal laws, that if they needed to, they could go back and reference. And maybe that would be if they were going to write a ticket.
Starting point is 00:25:20 They needed to know exactly what they needed to put on there and what the specific violation was and all of those things. But they never, I've never heard a police officer say to me, oh, yeah, I know every single law and every single thing that's going to have. happen. They can take things up to a point and then what they may need to do is take a little bit more time to research, call to a higher level of authority, call for an additional offer to come to buy them some time tactically so they can keep an eye on a situation while they do some research. And I'm sure in this modern era, you're back on your computer looking stuff up.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I'm assuming they're attached or have a voluminous database of anything that a police officer may need. But again, that goes back to time. From what I can tell, being a law enforcement officer is much more like being a multi-tool than it is being a scalpel, a scalpel having a very precise set of roles and responsibilities. Law enforcement, they're precise to a degree, but you might be going to a medical call and then to a crime scene and then to a domestic violence scene and then to an accident scene all in the span of a couple hours or probably in the span of an hour. I guess that would be possible, too, depending on the call volume where you are. I don't think you have to, I would say there are core competencies of a tree. Let's use an analogy that I think a lot of people could understand the trunk of
Starting point is 00:26:37 the tree as it goes up and then the branches that go out from there. The farther you get to the end of the branches, I think just about everybody, even to include myself in my old job, I understood the trunk of the tree very well. We would call it the metals or the mission essential task lists, the things that were our core competencies. The branches, we'd spend a lot of time training on the branches, but the portion that's probably the closest to the trunk. The farther you get out towards the end of the branch, who I'm going to need a little bit of help. I'm going to need to go slower. I'm going to need to move slower because I'm going to need more information. I'm going to need more time to make a decision. And I might need to ask for help. I might need to reference a resource document.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And that's exactly what I would recommend for you. Don't sweat the fact that you don't know everything because that is impossible. I would focus on to the best of your ability, mastering the fundamentals of what your job is. Largely in the SEAL community, I would say shoot, move, and communicate. Three easy words to say, but it's actually quite a lot more than that that could fall under each one of those categories.
Starting point is 00:27:39 But if you can master shoot, move, and communicate, you have a playbook with which you can call audibles from. There's no way that you're going to know every single one of the rights available to a citizen of this country. But I bet you know the major ones. And I bet you also have an understanding of where you're getting to your own gray area,
Starting point is 00:27:59 and that's again where you can put time into your favor. If it's not a tactical situation where somebody is shooting at you or you are in a super dangerous situation, you're pulled over on the side of the road, right next to traffic, you know what I'm saying? Like where there is something legitimately, truly pressing you to make decisions in such a compressed time period,
Starting point is 00:28:17 don't do it. If you get to a gray area, recognize it first and then take your time and work your way through that. But I think the 80% understanding of like, I bet you understand, Fifth Amendment rights. I bet you understand Miranda rights. Detentions versus arrest. Reasonable, articulatable suspicion. Probable cause. I'm sure you have an understanding of those things. That's great. I would put those, again, having never spent a second as a badged officer of any kind, I would put those into those core competencies.
Starting point is 00:28:50 A lot of what you do, there are branches that stem off of that. So take a breath. You're going to get there. And I bet a lot of the calls that you go to will be defined by their similarities, not their differences, meaning a slightly different expression. But if you trace it back, it's to the same branch, right back to the trunk. So again, if you get anything out of this, my best advice, don't rush unless you are immensely compelled to do so. put time on your side maintain your tactical advantage and your time advantage think before you act think before you move you're going to be okay one of these days you will be that officer unknowingly that somebody is looking at aspiring to be like because you seem unfazed and you always seem to
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Starting point is 00:32:04 He's turning into a young man more quickly than I would like to admit, man, has there ever been a more true statement? I know exactly how you feel. As a man of such advanced age and wisdom, What are your thoughts on the transition from boyhood to manhood? How did you approach this with your sons? What would you do differently now? Also, please have Micah Fink on again.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I want to hear the saga of the horse named Dick Broom. Micah Fink, arguably, the most legendary mustache that I've ever seen. I believe he's still based out in Bozeman, so I will get a hold of Mr. Fink again, and we'll have him on. He's got an amazing program. Where to begin on this? The transition from boyhood to manhood begs the question. When does that happen? And what does it mean to be a man? Legally, right? It's when you go from being 17 to 18 years old. In the eyes of the law, you are an adult. And actually, you know what? That's the term that they use. They don't use the term man or woman. In the eyes of the law, you are a legal adult. And we can, of course, open this up. I mean, I'll use the term man because that was phrased in this question, but let's, you know, woman to womanhood. or, yeah, yeah, woman to womanhood, boy to boyhood, or boyhood to manhood.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. I think it equally applies to both. I think that the statistic show and the science shows that women mature more quickly than men. I am not a scientist. I don't wear a white lab cloak ever unless I'm doing a skit, which I've never done one. So I don't know why I just said unless I'm doing a skit because that doesn't happen. but I've been around enough to see that that is pretty much the case. Women do mature quicker than men.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And in men, I believe it's 26 to about 29, as that's when your prefrontal cortex actually develops, which helps you with your decision-making and being a little bit less, emphasis on a little bit less of a psychopath. But again, that's eight years after the law considers you to be an adult. So I don't know when the threshold is, but I don't think manhood is actually based on age or a state issued piece of identification card. I think it is who you become. I think it is what you grow and evolve into. And that will
Starting point is 00:34:36 have a definition that differs for everybody. And I'm not here to provide a definition of what I think every man should be, but I can think broadly what to me, when I think of myself at now 48 years of all, what does it mean to be a man? It means I have my integrity. And to me, integrity is, oh, man, the most foundational principle that I think that manhood for myself. Again, I'm not going to try to provide this definition for anybody else. To me, when I think of what it means to be a man, is that you have your integrity, you have your honor, you tell the truth, and you stand up for what you believe to be as right. And again, that definition may vary that what do you believe to be is right from person to person.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I'm not here to argue that. I'm more than happy to have that discussion with people and what they consider to be right versus myself. I am just giving you a template of some objectivity or reflection when I think about this question about being a man. What does it mean? So then I have to ask myself a question, at what age do I feel like I became that person? and the most honest answer I can give is that I am still every day fighting and struggling to do my best to become that person. I constantly am trying to be a better version of myself. And especially when I look back at my earlier years in life, it would be hard to be a worse,
Starting point is 00:36:18 version of myself. I have treated people poorly. I have made decisions that I wish I hadn't made. I've cut corners. I've cheated. And I'm not thankful that I did those things. But I guess I'm thankful that they have provided me the lessons that they have. What do you do with it, I think, is the hard part.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And I think that what do you do with it is the journey. from boyhood to manhood. And I think that that is a never-ending path that you walk. What would I do different, a 10-year-old boy? My sons, one is 22, one is 20. What would I do different? I'm going to answer this slightly indirectly. I am going to tell you what I have done that I think,
Starting point is 00:37:28 has worked first. One of my principles has always been, I don't want to try to push my children towards anything, sons or daughters, or daughter, singular. So instead of asking them, what do they want to be? What do they want to do?
Starting point is 00:37:44 I ask them, what are you interested in? And then I try to support them to the best of my ability in the path that they have decided. And sometimes that shifts like a flagpole in the wind. And that can be frustrating as a parent because you're like,
Starting point is 00:38:01 God damn it last Tuesday you told me you wanted to do this and now you want to do something else. I mean, they are young. Their interests vary. And I think it's important to go down pathways that you think you might enjoy and then have to do a U-turn because you actually don't because the idea of what you wanted to do and the reality of it were two very different things.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. Always having to the best of your ability open communication. I have always told my kids that if something comes up, tell me the truth, be honest with me and talk to me. I will be more upset with you about the fact that you lied to me than what it is you lied to me about. And I will always do the best I can to help you. But I can only make good decisions based off of good and accurate information. So maintaining an open and honest dialogue, the ability to talk about anything and everything, drugs, sex, alcohol, relationships, money, fill in the blank.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I am so thankful that I have the ability to do that with my kids. And so many times in my head I have been thinking to myself as they're telling me a story, will you please to shut up because I don't want to hear any more about this because you're terrifying me because they're being so honest that I'm mortified by what they're telling me. But I'm glad that there is that conduit of information. So those things have worked well for me. What I could have done better, I could have been more present at times. Put the phone down and when you're spending time with your kids to the best of your ability, do exactly that. Don't be with your kids while doing something else to the best of your ability. And I understand the demands and the enticement
Starting point is 00:39:58 of these things that we carry around in our pockets or whatever thing. Everybody's, you know, you're living your life and your kids live in their life as well too, right? Do the best you can to fill the role of what it is that they're looking for you. They just need you to be their dad or their mom. So be as present as possible. Go to as many things as possible. And if you make a mistake, let me rephrase that. When you make a mistake, as a parent, don't pretend.
Starting point is 00:40:31 that it didn't happen. If you lose your cool, you cut somebody off in traffic and you end up flipping them off and just acting like a fool, which we've all done and look forward to doing again, perhaps. And your kids are in the car. Don't pretend that that didn't happen. And don't pretend that it's okay, regardless of what the person did that maybe induced you to take the actions that you did. No, own it, acknowledge it, and address the fact that you fell short of what it is that you
Starting point is 00:41:01 wanted to be and talk about it, talk through that. Take a mistake and turn it into an example that you can teach your kids from. This is really hard to do. This can be embarrassing and you can worry that your kids might think less of you, but they're not going to. They're going to take that example, and I'm telling you right now it'll have impact in their life at a point in time where you're not there and they're out in the world by themselves. And they're going to remember something that you did or said that they can learn from and they are going to model that behavior. And you may never know about it, but it could have life-altering potential for them in both directions, meaning the person that is willing to acknowledge their mistakes and do something with it. And then the parent,
Starting point is 00:41:43 who is never at fault, who never does anything wrong. And everything that happens to them in their life is an external thing. And it's because of this, that or the other. But the finger, although there's one pointing out, there's three pointing back at you. They never address those three. That sets an example, too. And that can also set a trend in behavior. And you got to ask yourself, How would you, well, this might be tough for the person that blames everything else in the world. But for those of you out there willing to take an objective look inward, ask yourself, which one of those kids do you want? I want the first example, not the one that blames the world for everything going on and nothing is ever their fault. Because that just falls into the category of complete bullshit.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Almost everything negative that has happened to me in my life is because of something that I did. Do catastrophes happen outside of your control? Yes. Can you control that? No. Do you have 100% complete controller over how? you react to it. Yes, you do. And that is the example that you are setting for your kids. So what would I do differently now? I would try to do all of the things that I have just mentioned
Starting point is 00:42:42 more. I would try to do all of those things that I have just mentioned better, more consistently, more constantly. And then also take a breath and just realize you are an imperfect person. You will make mistakes. Think about your own parents. Did they always live up to the example of what you thought of them. And think about the difference in how you thought about your parents when you were 10 versus when you were 20, 30 or 40. At some point, you realize they are their own individual with their own battles, struggling to do the best that they can. My father now is 78. I am 48. I don't think of him in the same way that I did when I was 8 40 years ago. And I don't say that negatively at all. What I see more of now is my dad's humanity. I see that he is dealing with the same things that I am. And he has been for longer than I have been. And it allows me to try to find this space sometimes because he's a psychopath, as you guys will see next Friday that you guys all love when he's on for 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I get to deal with him for the 23 hours and 33 minutes when he's not on the show. Does some real, real frustrating and goofy things sometimes. But I tell you what, I probably view it. him differently when I was 18 and 28 and 38. And again, none of that is negative. I just now have some of the experiences that he's been fighting through for decades. And it gives me an appreciation for who he is and the example that he said. So do more of those things. Be the best version that you can. But also give yourself a little bit space to realize that you're not perfect either and you never will be. All right. Last question for today. And then we're going to go off into our
Starting point is 00:44:27 weekend. My husband and I are at Witt's End with my 25-year-old stepson. He was discharged from the Army for drinking in weed use. Yes, that's, that is a good way to get discharged from the Army. We let him live with us to get back on track under a few simple rules. No substances get a job, contribute, and be respectful. Instead, he refused to work unless it was a high-paying IT job with no drug test. Relapsed into drinking in weed, became verbally abusive, and eventually moved in with a girlfriend. Within a month, she kicked him out. Where does this sense of entitlement come from? Well, also, I don't know what he did in the army, but I'm not going to work unless it's a high-paying IT job and no drug test. Who do people think that they are? Why do people arrive at this headspace?
Starting point is 00:45:16 There's what you want the world to be, and then there's what the world actually is. You can get to a place where you could find this job, but I don't know. How about putting some miles in. How about getting some experience? How about putting a few steps in a row to build some momentum to get there? I've just, I don't understand this drastic leap of this is what I am due and I'm not doing anything unless I can have that. I mean, I am, I'm not a wealthy man by any stretch. I am, I hate to even say the word that I am an entrepreneur. I do know, own a business and I have a couple different diversified income streams. But, It has been a struggle and microscopic steps along the way.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Some of them backwards with which you've got to dig yourself out of that hole and work your way forward again. But none of that was given to me. And at no point in time did I find it to be beneficial to sit there and say, well, I'm not going to do anything unless all of my criteria are met. Like, dude, put the reps in to earn it first. You won't even appreciate it if you get everything that you want up for. You'll have no appreciation for what you have. So, sorry, slightly divergent there. Okay, within a month she kicked him out.
Starting point is 00:46:31 We agreed to pick him up the next morning on the condition that he follow the rules, no drinking or drugs, get a job, clean up after himself and begin paying rent once employed. He and his brother both promised months later. He still hasn't applied for a single job. He lied about having income, drove his brother's unregistered car without a license to buy alcohol, and now claims he has no money to contribute. We told him he must pay November and December rent. and then leave in January, which is his choice, or leave within 30 days, which will be December 17th.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So today is the 20th, so yeah, less than a month from now. We're certain he will do nothing, then try to guilt us at the last minute by saying he has nowhere to go. His presence has already caused financial issues for his brother, who was previously reliable and lives with us also. But instead of heading in the right direction is currently heading in the wrong direction, Their biological mother was unfit for most of their lives, but as my husband has stated previously, he adheres to your code of her not having a platform for her own story, meaning he does not negatively talk about her. We have provided multiple chances, extensions and support, but he continues to lie, avoid responsibility
Starting point is 00:47:39 and manipulate. What do we do when December 17th arrives and he is still here, still refusing to follow rules and trying to guilt us into letting him stay? How do we hold someone like this accountable? Thank you for all that you do. and P.S. more wean content. I know, right? Is the world, is it possible to flood the world with too much wean content? And for those of you who think now that I'm talking about a different type of wean, I'm talking about a miniature doxand or a dockle, as you would say in German. Javlin are reverse
Starting point is 00:48:10 chocolate dapple mini-doxen. That's the wean. For those of you who are thinking something else, take it easy, all right? You're at a 10. I need you to 4. Okay. To the person that wrote this email, Let me give you the shortest, easiest answer that's going to be the hardest to digest. I feel like my guess is this. After you wrote this email to me, or maybe even before, you know the answer to this. The answer to this question is right on the nose. And you know what you need to do. This falls into the category of if you change nothing, nothing is going to change.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You have set conditions and standards for your stepson. He has shown repetitively that he is unwilling. I'm not going to say unable. This seems to be a clear, demonstrable case of unwilling to do what is being asked of him. And you are setting up another situation, another timeline of which this seems to be one of many that you have set. And you're wondering what's going to happen and what you should do. in the likely event that things repeat themselves. I hope that it made you feel better to write this email.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I appreciate that you did. But I think you know the answer that I'm about to give you. And I think you know even before you wrote it what that answer was going to be. You actually have to take action. Is that incredibly easy to say an immensely difficult to live? Absolutely. especially since I'm not the one who has to take these actions. But imagine your response.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Let's flip this. You have a friend in your life that is in this situation. And they respect you enough to come to you for advice. And they were to say to you the things that you have just said to me in this email. What would your advice be to them? Would it be to provide a comfortable consequence-free environment for the Stepson and hope for the best as clearly you have already done? Is that the advice that you would give a friend or a loved one? I don't think it is, right?
Starting point is 00:50:31 But that's the rub here. It's easy to give the advice. It's hard to live it. But what do you need to do? If you want your word to mean anything in the future, if you want the boundaries that you've, set to mean anything going forward. You have to hold them. And that sucks. So what do I think you should do when the 17th comes around? Eight days before Christmas, right? December 25th or is it 24th? God, brain fart in this moment. It's 25th, right? Sure. If it's not, that's when I'm going to
Starting point is 00:51:08 celebrate it from here on out. What are you going to do a week before Christmas? You're going to tell him to leave? Yes, that's what I think you should do. Hold him accountable for his actions because it seems as if the two times that's happened before, one time in the Army and one time with a girlfriend who kicked him out within a month, she held her ground. Where did he go when that happened? Right back to where he felt comfortable. And what did he do when he came back? Continued to do what he wanted to do to feel comfortable. Why is he still able to do that?
Starting point is 00:51:47 because you guys are letting him and that sucks. Do I want anybody to be homeless? No. Do I want anybody to be booted out of their house and away from their family over Christmas? No. Do I want this person to be better to figure out who they are? Do I want them to struggle and have to suffer with the consequences of their actions so they can learn from them and change the trajectory of their life? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Is that easy for you? No. But if you don't do it, again, I'm not a gambler for her to put a dollar on how this is going to go if you don't do anything. I think you would probably, even being in this situation, put money on the same side that I would. Because if you don't change anything, nothing is going to change. The hardest thing is going to be for you to, it's because it's not a threat. He didn't threaten him on the 17th. You set the conditions and standards that had to be met or there was going to be an action taken.
Starting point is 00:52:50 You need to take that action on the 17th. And then this is the hard part. You need to hold your ground. You're going to question your decision. You're going to feel horrible. You're going to feel guilt. You might feel shame. You're going to feel bad for this person.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Your husband is as well. You're going to want to change your mind, especially when they regale you of tales of their suffering and how bad it is and they don't know what to do. Really? maybe start acting like a fucking adult and figure it out. Because as long as they are living in your house under rules that you are unwilling to enforce or establish, that isn't going to happen. And that's just going to suck for both of you. But at the end of this, both parties will be better for it.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And if you can see the course and this person is able to get their life back on track, it is my suspicion they will. thank you for it later. They are not going to thank you for this in the moment and don't expect them to do so. They're going to have anger, hatred, blame, all sorts of things for you. Hold your ground. Hold this person accountable and prepare them for the life they are going to experience outside of the basement of your house. You can either do that now or in 10 years when this person is still living there. Both of those are going to suck. I think the 10-year one down the road would suck a little bit more. So when the 17th comes, if you want your word to mean anything, hold it, even when it sucks
Starting point is 00:54:30 because it's the right thing to do. And as painful as it's going to be for this young man, it is exactly what he needs. And that is all I have for this week. See you all. Monday.

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