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Episode Date: March 31, 2023Rapid Fire Q and A to finish off the week: 1. How can we better prepare ourselves to react to violence? 2. How do we celebrate LEO actions but also maintain the focus on the tragedy of very public sch...ool shootings? 3. Is the phrase "happy wife, happy life" a real thing? Enjoy Sign up for the new G14 newsletter here: https://www.clearedhotpodcast.com/exclusive Check out the newest Cleared Hot Gear here: https://shop.clearedhotpodcast.com/
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All right, everybody, what's going on? It is Friday. You know what that means. We're going to do a full auto Friday. We're up to number 143. Let's just straight up get into it. All right, here we go.
I'm looking at danger close now. Well, here we are. I hope your Friday's going well. I'm changing it up a little bit. I'm too messing around with a little bit of a different camera setup today. Because why not, right? Sometimes I just feel like changing it up a bit.
Trying it without the headphones on for a Friday episode.
I'm still going to use this microphone.
And I'm going to do a video actually for my personal YouTube page in a bit about podcasting
and why I use the headphones and why particularly this microphone because the audio is spectacular.
And I'm going to kind of show some things that change the audio quality, spinning off already onto a tangent for Friday.
This has nothing to do with it.
But I've been busy.
And I've been doing some new stuff and that's why I'm just kind of changing it up a bit.
So I had this camera, I got this camera off of a recommendation.
I've been doing a little bit of what I would call vlogging, a little bit behind the scenes.
I'm going to do some videos, separate them from this podcast channel because this podcast channel, I want it to be clean.
I want it to be for podcasting only.
And then I've been doing the change agents interviews as well.
So two of them are already out.
And let me tell you, these are some awesome conversations.
If you haven't checked it out, I highly recommend that you do.
They're much more condensed in the duration.
at the very least. The conversations aren't actually always as short, but with the professional
editing and production team behind the scenes, what it allows them to do is actually condense it
down to the most impactful portions. So two of them are out. Another one's coming out next Monday.
I think we have at this point 13 in the can. And we've talked about some really cool stuff,
from a different look at policing with LAPD to the LA Innocence Project and talking about the number
of innocent people that had been incarcerated.
clean water, obviously coal bolt and human trafficking, veterans transitioning out of the military
handicap support for people in war zones. And the list just goes on and on. They've been
fascinating conversations. And this week coming up, I think I'm doing six or seven more. So there'll be a
total of 25 that will come out in the first season. And yeah, I hope you really enjoy it because I've
enjoyed doing it. And I don't know if it'll go to a season two. If it does, awesome. If it doesn't,
Well, who knows? I'm still going to do what I do because I actually have gotten that question quite a bit.
Am I going to stop doing this podcast? And of course not. I really love doing this podcast.
Probably one of my favorite things that I do. But let's get into the questions for today.
Because I feel like that's what you're all here for. And I'll ramble on for hours if I don't.
So I have four picked out. We'll see how far I get into this.
I was listening to your question from a guy with the gun on the trailer. And I thought of this question.
I've heard you and others like Glover and some of your former co-workers talking about the
advantage of being in special operations is that you were most often on the offensive, whereas more
conventional units were often waiting to react to being attacked. So in my mind, that translates to a
civilian potential for violence. We are reactionary to most violent situations. For reference,
I am not a combat experienced, or for reference, I am not combat experienced. And my schooling is a
couple of fieldcraft classes and one sheepdog response class in a too long time blue belt in BJJ.
what would you say an untested individual should be doing to move into a better space for reaction to violence?
Are there metrics you could suggest for aiming as a starting line?
Thanks for all that you do and cheers.
You know, at a broad level, I think that, to use your words, what should an untested individual do or what should they be doing to move into a better space for reaction to violence?
You're already doing it.
You are seeking out additional training.
you have gone to some of Glover's courses.
And in that, I know for a fact he's talking about mindset.
And then, of course, competence with a firearm itself.
A pistol, rifle, a variety of levels.
So it could be an intro level or it could be an advanced level.
But continuing to go and pursue that knowledge is exactly what I would recommend that somebody would do.
You're already participating in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, which, as everybody who listens to this podcast knows,
I absolutely love, but I also don't think it's magic.
I don't think it's the end-all be-all, and I don't think that there is an end-all be-all.
I think when it comes to violence, for me, the best way to talk about it is in terms of range, long-range, medium range, up close and in your face and somebody actually touching you.
I hope that nobody experiences violence in their life.
And from a mathematical perspective, the statistics are on your side.
You're very unlikely to actually encounter violence.
Again, from a mathematical perspective, it's the safest time for human beings to ever.
be alive and stats totally don't matter once you find yourself in that situation. So I think it's just
more of like a good way to ground yourself into the likelihood, but it shouldn't be ignored because
you never know where you're going to actually find yourself. I just don't want people walking around
paranoid, I guess, would be what I'm trying to say. So view it in perspective of ranges. And what you said,
you know, we are reactionary to most violent situations for civilians. I hope so. I, I, I, I, I, I,
I hope that people aren't walking around every day looking for a reason to be violent.
That's not what I want.
There are people who are out there like that.
And when you encounter one of them, whether they are skilled or not, it's the reaction to that
violent situation that's actually probably going to make the difference.
But for people like yourself who are already looking at this, whether you realize it or not,
from that perspective of ranges, because you've got firearms, which will give you some distance.
And then what happens if somebody actually puts their hands on you, I think you're actually
really well positioned right now, way better than most people who don't think about it from
those perspectives or don't think about it at all, probably. And then they find themselves in a
situation and they're in a fight or flight feeling inside of their body for the first time.
And it can get a little Western. People have every right to choose to live their life however
they want to, be prepared or don't be prepared. Just understand that the choices that you make
are going to directly inform the outcome in a situation like this. And you'll have nobody to point
the finger out and blame but yourself if it doesn't go the way that you want it to if you haven't
done anything to prepare you could prepare all you want you know you can be the best brazilian
jiu jihitsu black belt on planet earth and you might encounter six people and you're going to be
proper fucked if that happens if you don't have the ability to create space and get out of there
so you know it's uh there's a little bit of luck involved but vast majority of it is going to fall
in the person that you see in the mirror when it comes to the outcome of these situations um
I don't really have any good metrics to suggest because there's such a varying degree of availability and access to firearms training and courses and any particular skill set that you would want to go after when it comes to like a hands-on distance.
So instead of laying out metrics, what I would just put out there is what I already have.
Think about this from the perspective of ranges and objectively look at yourself and say, hey, what am I doing?
to protect myself or prepare myself, I should say, along these ranges. And if I'm not doing
anything, maybe that's the only metric that actually matters. Zero is the number that you want to
avoid. You're not doing anything to prepare yourself. I would say you have nothing but room for
improvement in front of you, but for somebody like you, who has already gone down this rabbit hole
a little bit, keep doing the things that you're doing. And if you find something that you like more
than another one, don't be afraid to explore that to a very deep degree. Maybe Jiu-Jitsu leads you to
kickboxing. It's fucking awesome. Go do kickboxing. Kick the living shit out of somebody's head
in a training environment. I'm not saying go out and like do that in the subway because that's
horrendous. But actually don't worry about people who I don't worry about people as much who take the
time to really practice fighting and whatever that may look like because they come to the realization
that fighting hurts. And even if you win, it still can really suck. So they avoid violence as much
as possible. It's interesting. The people I know who are the most capable of
violence are the least likely to be violent. And that's a good thing. So keep doing what you're doing.
And for people out there who don't know what to do, use what this individual has done as an example.
If you don't feel comfortable with firearms, which I understand and respect people's beliefs and
feelings, what I would say is still be a value add. So if you don't want to train in that world,
my recommendation would be to you is if you want to be prepared, focus that on medical
training. Be able to help and be a value add if you find yourself in a situation where
somebody else may need it. You might be rolling up on the aftermath of something and that
ability to provide a slightly higher level of care until medical professionals get there can be
the difference between life and death for people. And it's a great skill to have. And it also
detaches you from that requirement for somebody else to always be there and help you. You'll be
able to do that and help others. So food for thought. Question number.
two. As a non-military slash
LEO, I love the show and what you are doing with
change agents. Thank you. I love it as well as I talked about in the beginning.
Here's my question. With the recent Nashville,
man, Nashville school shooting,
the body cam footage was released of the full incident.
This was rapidly spread over the internet and I am not
diminishing what the officers did and applaud their service and actions.
My issue is with what seems to be the glorification of
the body cam footage on the internet. Many public figures have shared the footage and are thanking
the officers for their ability to handle the threat unlike Yuvalde. My issue is with what seems to be
mass glorification of the footage and is this sending the wrong message. It seems as if the true
tragedy of the shooting is being lost in the mix of the gender of the shooter and the actions of
the police officers, which should not go unnoticed. Is there a good balance of celebrating the officers
while still keeping the main focus on the tragedy.
Hope to hear your thoughts.
It's a short email, but it's a super deep question.
I'm going to start by saying this.
They're in my opinion, which everything that comes out of my mouth is clearly that.
And it is I get my opinion or my opinion is derived from the experiences that I have had in my life.
And that's how I view the world, as we all do, through the lens of the things that we have experienced
and worked our way through in our own life.
I want there to be zero school shootings.
Just like that sucks that you have to even lay that foundation.
But I actually don't want anybody at any time to be the recipient of violence in their life.
That is my pie in the sky.
That's what I would love for everybody.
Do I 100% recognize that that's a pipe dream?
Yes, I do.
But that's what I would like it to be.
I would like zero children to ever think about
the risk of any type of gun-related violence or violence in general when they go to school.
I wish that is the world that we live in.
That isn't the world that we live in.
I do not believe that our state and federal government can solve the issue of school shooting.
I do not believe that there is any legislation or gun law that can be or would
be enacted that will stop school shootings. I believe the issue to be much more deeply rooted
in our society and what we have become willing to tolerate, the example that we are setting
for children, the examples that we are setting in our communities and in our families,
until we address those issues, everything else is window dressing.
In the talk of we should take this or we should write this, all of that is actions, or they are in my mind,
attempts at a perceived action.
And I actually think that most of the people presenting them realize that they won't have an impact,
but they want to appear as if what they are doing will make a difference and that they care very deeply.
I do believe that they care very deeply, but I also believe that at a deep level they realize what it is they're recommending is not going to actually solve the problem.
And that's a tough place to be.
I don't think there is a binary solution to solving school shootings.
It's easy to look at the weapons that are used in those shootings.
but the weapon that is used in the shooting is not the root cause of why the shooting occurred.
And until we focus time, energy, effort, money, resources into figuring that out, I don't think
there's anything that can be done to stop them.
I personally believe that it is going to be a generational solution that is going to take time.
And that solution is going to come from a focus.
a deep focus on values and beliefs.
And I notice, please, that I didn't say my values and beliefs.
I think at first, the first step is we need to determine who the fuck we want to be,
who we are and what we stand for.
Now, the beauty in this country is that we have the freedom of speech,
we have the freedom of religious expression,
we have the freedom to be who we want to be.
And that is not a choice that many have in this world.
And I'm very grateful of that.
So when I say, when I say we need to figure out who the fuck we want to be, I don't
expect there to be a consensus.
I actually think it's a very good thing that there is not a consensus.
But there are, in my mind, at least, so many societal issues that are rooted in, how do I say this?
I'm just going to say it.
people outsourcing their parenting and family values to others or a fucking cell phone and allowing
the influence that should be coming from parents to come from social circles or individuals
that our children now have access to via their devices unrestricted.
Do I think it's completely based on that?
No, I absolutely don't.
But the more that things like this happened, the more it is trending me in that direction.
because what we're doing right now is not solving the problem. I think we could all agree on that.
It is not solving the problem. So let's look at what we're not doing. And what I see, again, from my
experience, from what I am seeing and listening to with my own eyes and ears, it's not a focus
on those core values. And until we start focusing on those things,
Like I said, I think the rest of it is kind of window dressing.
Now, to the question, how do we even talk about school shootings, what led up to them,
the shooter, the weapon that was used, and the law enforcement response without glorifying any aspect of that?
I don't have a good answer.
Because each of those are valid areas of discussion.
I've heard people say that when there is a school shooting or a shooting, a mass shooting of any kind, that the media shouldn't cover it at all.
And I don't know if that's the right answer because awareness of something happening can spawn interest and change down the road.
I've heard the people saying, you know, that the shooter itself, the person should never be named and they should never have any level of notoriety.
I kind of agree
I can agree with that
because I feel like some people
take these actions or do these acts
because that is what they are looking for
and I don't understand the logical headspace to get there
like oh I know the solution to this
I'm going to go to school and kill innocent children
because then people will know my name
I don't understand that at all
but I do I do understand the argument
that when these people
they're not that they're celebrated
but when they are talked about
that it can, in fact, lead to people trying to repeat their behaviors
so that the same level of notoriety is brought to them.
Okay?
So I could understand that area of discussion.
The weapon used, I don't, you know, there's a lot of people who immediately want to politicize
a weapon used in a mass shooting.
And my stance on weapons is like, let's talk about them.
Like, I don't, like, let's have a discussion about the weapons.
And I'm not, notice I'm not saying about the Second Amendment.
like we can talk about the weapons.
Let's talk about the weapons that are used in these situations,
but let's also talk about the weapons that are used to end these situations.
Because for every mass shooting incident or violent action with a weapon in society,
they're generally ended with another one as well.
So it's not necessarily about the tool.
It's about the individual wielding that tool.
But let's leave weapons on the table to at least discuss the amount of information
that I have personally heard about what people think about weapons and guns that is so wildly
inaccurate shocks me to a degree.
And it opens my eyes to how much misinformation or disinformation or even just lack of
knowledge there is around firearms.
Keep it on the table.
Let's talk about it.
I literally had somebody tell me yesterday.
I'm going to try to remember the exact words that when you are showing,
shot with an AK-47, it obliterates you. You will not be recognizable. And I stood in front of this
person and I said to them, I was shot with an AK-47 and I was not obliterated. So if that's what you
believe, how is it possible that I am standing here in front of you right now, recognizable and
totally able to function? There wasn't a logical answer that was received in my direction. It was a very
emotional one and I get it, be as emotional as you want to, but there is a huge opportunity
to actually educate people about what weapons are and what they can do and what they can't do
for clarity. Without that education, it is far too easy to manipulate people and make them
fearful. When you make somebody fearful, they become very malleable, and then you can become
pushed in any particular direction that an individual and organization would want to push you in.
So let's leave that on the table. Now, the body cam footage.
Is it possible that the footage could be overused and glorified?
Yeah, I would say that it could be.
I received the footage myself.
I saw the footage and I am incredibly proud of the actions that the officers took.
They ran towards the sound of gunfire.
They moved as quickly as they could to identify and neutralize the threat.
And it's exactly what I think people want to see from law enforcement.
And I hope it is not lost on people how fucking hard it is to do what they did.
To know that you are at risk to go into an unknown situation accepting that risk for the benefit of others.
Does the display of that footage hopefully help highlight that?
I hope so.
But I also think it can be overdone.
I don't know where the balance is.
personally like my flash reaction to mass shootings and if I was to be able to if I was only able
to be able to put out one piece of information about every mass shooter my gut reaction is you show
the fucking picture of the person dead and you say this is what happens if you take those actions
but that's also not fair because it's an incomplete picture as well I don't want the officer's
reactions to be glorified much like I don't want the shooters.
reactions to be glorified or a weapon to be glorified. I don't know the right or wrong way to talk
about this. I do want to highlight success, but I also want to highlight failure as well. It's a
balancing act. It's a matter more to me of transparency and showing, you know, Yuvaldei wasn't there,
don't know anybody that was there, have never been a law enforcement officer in my life, right?
Take it with a grand assault. Yvalde was a fucking catastrophic failure in my mind and
in pretty much every law enforcement officer that I have talked to.
But it's also not the norm.
It received so much attention in press, and it should.
The lens and optic of transparency of what happened, but more importantly, why needs to be on that situation.
But if that's the only story that we tell, it paints an incorrect picture of law enforcement,
and it paints an incredibly negative picture of people who operate in that world.
So it has to be balanced with things who are living up to every inch of what we would hope and want them to be,
which is exactly what I see the body cam footage to be, like I already described it,
individuals running towards the sound of the guns.
But there's got to be a balance.
I don't know where that balance is.
All information has value.
not all information is important, and that should be remembered as well.
We should highlight these things to the point of their value, but not highlight them too much that they no longer become important.
And I know I'm not answering the question, but I don't know if this question has a precise answer.
The answer, again, I think falls into what I've already said, balance and trying to figure out a way to balance it.
Yeah, it's a tough one.
This is one that if there are things that I can't sleep at night that I'll end up, my mind will drift to situations like this and to whether or not they even have a solution, that's what I spend my time thinking about it.
It's not fun.
It's not awesome.
Because I can't think of and can't find my way towards concrete steps that I think would make a huge difference.
I'd rather have the officer's behavior in this instance glorified than the shooters.
Or actually in every instance, I should say.
I would rather have the responding individuals behavior glorified than that of the one who is there to create havoc and murder others.
And I guess that's where I land.
And as far as it being over-glorified, yeah, I think it's possible.
But if I had to choose one side of that to land on, I would land on
people viewing that heroic behavior, perhaps a little bit too much, as opposed to not viewing it
enough. And that's where I land on that. And again, I'm not even sure I actually answer that
fucking question. Do the best that I could. Question number three. Back to my wheelhouse.
Relationships. I've been in a relationship with my girlfriend for over four years now,
and I'm, this part of the sentence, I'm bad books at the moment holding on to a book.
I don't know if that was a typo, but I feel like you're saying I'm in a bad situation at the moment and I'm holding on to a book.
The book in question is 12 rules for life by Jordan Peterson.
My girlfriend stated she hates Jordan Peterson and she hates that I have a book of his.
I'd moved the book from my bookshelf and into a pelican case.
I keep work equipment.
I'm in law enforcement.
And after she stated her displeasure.
So you move the book out of sight after she stated her displeasure.
This afternoon, she questioned what was in the case.
So in the interest of transparency, I opened it up and the book is sitting there.
We had an argument over the book and in order to keep the piece I threw the book in the recycling bin.
She also hates that I have a half-face blade that I bought myself as a reward for graduating my FTO program, which I believe stands for field training officer.
Is it wrong to just bend to pressure like that?
Or does the phrase happy wife, happy life, ring true here?
I love your thoughts.
Uh, fuck.
Why people send me relationship questions, I still am baffled to this day.
But here we go.
Here's what I think.
I'm going to dive back into some words that you used.
In the interest of transparency, I opened up the book or I opened it up and the book was sitting there.
If you were actually being transparent, you wouldn't have hidden the book in a case, right?
And again, this might be nitpicking a little bit, but like, let's get down to the brass tax here.
So you knew it was an issue.
And if you were really being transparent, you would have said to her, hey, like, I know that this book bothers you.
I don't want to get rid of it.
So I'm going to keep it in this case so you don't have to see it.
But you didn't do that.
You just moved it.
And then Shikotia still having it.
So let's just call it for what it is.
And I'm not saying it's a negative, but let's be precise and accurate with our language.
So does the phrase happy wife, happy life ring true here?
And I would add to that ever, always.
You know, there's a couple ways to phrase it, but it's more than just this particular situation.
Does having a happy wife make your life better?
In my experience, yes.
But what if, in order to make your wife happy, you are not being the person that you really want to be?
Does that mean that your life is happy because she is?
Even though you know every second of every day, you're not being the person that you want to be.
When you get to your deathbed, are you going to have regret or are you going to be thankful that you didn't become or act as if the person that you wanted to be so you could make somebody else happy?
I don't have the answer to that question, but I think it's an important one to take a look at.
So yes, having a happy wife will make your life better in my personal experience.
But will make your life even better than that is you, yourself, being honest with yourself,
and then in turn being honest with your significant other about what makes you happy,
excuse me, and then determining whether or not you can live and grow together or whether or not it would be better for,
for both of your happiness and health to move apart from each other.
That's a much more important question.
In this particular situation, what I would say is, why does she dislike Jordan Peterson
and why does she dislike half-face plates?
I don't think either of those things should be a relationship-ending issue if you cannot
come to an agreement upon it.
but if she is not willing to live with the fact that you may have disagreements on certain issues
and her happiness is only going to be based around you changing who you are
and get rid of things that bother her in my experience from what I have seen in the end
that's not going to work out well for what I have already described earlier about your life
and happiness and health and her life and happiness and health.
There are, of course, times in a relationship where you are going to be asked to do things
or be a part of things that you don't fucking want to do.
And I'll be the first to tell you that when I'm approached with those things, you are damn
right.
If it's not what I consider to be a major issue, going with the flow to make sure that your
significant other is happy.
by all means, right?
I do not think that life should be filled with, like, argument and contention.
Like, God, that would be miserable.
But also, like, why are you sharing your life with somebody who you're spending your time arguing and being contentious with?
Like, maybe find a better partner.
You know, there's a lot of fish in the sea.
50%.
I actually, I don't think that stats rat.
But the point is, like, if you find yourself in a place where it's always argumentative and always contentious, like, you might have bigger issues going on.
your wife has to determine who she is and what makes her happy.
You have to determine who you are and what makes you happy.
And then the question is, like I said, can you live and grow together into the future?
Can you be parallel or do you guys have to go in separate directions?
I don't think it's a good sign that you are willing to give up on your beliefs just to make somebody else happy.
And I say that because it's a trend that will continue.
It's not like, oh, okay, I'll just give up on these two or I'll acquiesce on these two and that that will be the end of it.
Because that's just not the way that it works.
If you have a history of that particular behavior, whatever the behavior may be, more than likely it's going to continue.
And once somebody else recognizes that, they will continue to push on that.
And they will expect you to have the same level of reaction that you did previously.
That's not a fault on you and that's not a fault on them.
That's just kind of the way human interactions work.
I have so many questions.
Like, what are the arguments over the book? What are the arguments over the half face blade knife?
Have you taken the time to explain what they mean to you, the value that you derive from it?
I have books that I don't agree with at all, but I still have them because I'm interested in understanding how other people think and feel.
If you don't take that time to explore the counter argument or the counter belief to the one that you have, it's going to be really.
really difficult when you encounter somebody that has those alternate beliefs to understand where
they're coming from. And again, I'm not saying you have to agree, but I think trying to see the
world through at least a small fraction of a percentage of how somebody else sees it is so helpful
in communication and relationships. You don't have to agree with them, but ask yourself,
why do they see the world in the way that they do? And so because you brought up a book,
Like I will buy books on a topic that I'm interested in or one that I want to learn something about, but from both sides.
Antagonist and protagonist.
So not always, by the way.
I have limited time just like everybody else does.
But on issues of, I like to go back to the question about, it wasn't really about gun control, but we were talking about guns.
I 100% realize that I'm biased when it comes to my perception of weapons because they were, it was like a,
I was like a carpenter and it was like a hammer hanging off my belt.
It was a tool, straight up a tool.
But I realized that almost nobody has that experience.
So if I try to overlay my thoughts on everything because of my experience that almost nobody else shares, it's going to fall flat.
And it should fall flat because they don't the fuck I'm talking about.
They don't have the experience that I have.
So I try to think about how does somebody arrive at the opinion or belief that they have.
And when people are willing to engage with me in conversation, I ask questions about what led them to their belief.
Sometimes people don't want to answer them because they think that you're trying to find a way to mud suck them or like, you know, come around and ambush them with some piece of information that you give them.
I ask it from the perspective of genuinely being curious and interested because those experiences inform their opinions and beliefs.
just like here
with the what is it
that the 12 rules of life by Jordan Peterson
a book that I do have
and I'm about halfway through it
this is one where I actually started on audio
and then I just
the amount of content that is produced daily
I lost the ability to keep track of it
so I fell behind and then I read a few chapters
I find Jordan Peterson
to be a very interesting human being
do I agree with everything that he says
absolutely not but am I fascinated
and deeply believe with some of the things
that he does say, I absolutely do. One of the things that I love about, one of the statements that
he has made was actually about violence, about how he thinks that men should be incredibly
capable of violence, but they should have it under control. I couldn't agree with that more.
And I addressed that when it came to the range issues, you know, long distance, medium and somebody
putting their hands on you. But maybe have a conversation that this is where I would start.
Here's the advice that I would give you. You know, first off, the happy wife, happy life,
a good bumper sticker. I think it fails in reality as it comes to the happiness of both parties
in that equation. If you want to live your life like that, that's your choice. I'm not saying
don't do that, but understand that if you're going to live your life by that bumper sticker,
you might have some very deep and resentful and regretful thoughts at the tail end of your own life.
But if you choose to, go ahead. Have questions. Have questions. Have conversations. I would
try to develop a deeper understanding of what it is that she doesn't like about.
that book and the half face blades knife. And again, that will be an illuminating conversation
for the both of you because it's going to explore and expose where your differences are.
And when people have differences, they can either build a bridge to work with them or realize
that the bridge cannot be built and you need to go in separate directions. So I would actually
dive into this a little bit more. That would be my advice. I hear people say sometimes like,
well, I just did it this time and I'm going to wait a little bit and we'll come back to it later.
In my experience, waiting is not necessarily a guarantee of a better outcome in the long run.
Actually, more often than not, it's going to be a worse outcome in the long run because things that are unsaid, they fester quite a bit.
Not for everybody, but that has been my experience.
So I would actually address this immediately and use it as an opportunity again to define and explore the differences that you may have.
you need to be an advocate for what yourself, what you believe, and why you believe the things that you do.
And you also need to be willing to listen to what she believes and why.
Maybe she's worried that, like, you're going to try to become the next Jordan Peterson.
And maybe you got the book because you've heard him say some interesting things in the past.
But you could let her know, like, hey, just so you know, I don't agree with everything in this book.
I was more interested in the person and his beliefs.
That doesn't necessarily mean that I am going to espouse them or try to live those.
beliefs but just trying to further educate myself if you want to throw the book away then I would
say do so but if you don't and you feel like you're not being yourself instead of running away
from this issue that would do a 180 and I would go directly at it and that's the best advice that
I have check how long I've been running my mouth I always lose track I'm already almost shit I'm
already at almost 40 minutes so I'm gonna shut up I'll see you guys on Monday with another episode
you guys have a good one
