Cleared Hot - Powered By BRCC - Full Auto Friday - Round 47

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

Rapid-fire Q and A submitted from the listeners! A variety of topics with a five-minute time cap per answer. 1. How do you handle individuals in larger groups that refuse to put in effort and are a pain in the ass 2. What are the best things to have come from 2020, can they be extended into 2021 3. I work with racists and want to feed them razor blades, what should I do 4. How would you have handled the Boulder CO situation had you been there Enjoy

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week I'll go for 10. I'll double down for full auto Friday number 48. But until then, we're going to stick with today's four and try to keep it right at around 30 minutes. Question number one. Full Auto Friday question for you. Let's say you're out on a hunt or camping, something physically demanding where modern comforts are removed. You are with a group, and a member of that group is not accustomed to this environment and begins to complain. This escalates into them refusing to move, refusing to carry their weight, being a general pain in the butt to everyone else. It becomes clear that they did not properly prepare physically for this event. How do you handle a person like this?

How do you lead a group with a person like this? If you have a personal anecdote regarding this, we would love to hear it. Thanks. Well, situations like this suck, and I'm going to assume that you are not in the military because you didn't phrase this as. as to how we used to treat these people in the military. And in the military, let me just tell you, it was easier. And I wish that you had asked about that because I could concisely say what we would do

is remove this individual from the environment. They would be removed from the group. They would be remediated. They would be counseled, potentially given an opportunity to rejoin the group, but it would have been very quick because of the ability that you have in the military in a leadership position. If somebody is a massive detriment to the group,

most of the stuff that you talked about would not be tolerated easy to get rid of now i think maybe i suspect that i don't know maybe you're in the corporate world here and maybe you're uh at an event with your peers and you have less remediation tools than we did or i don't know maybe you're just curious about leadership with a group of people with um we'll call it a different philosophy on preparation and execution in the teamwork setting First and foremost, like I said at the beginning, this kind of sucks. So you can tell that this individual is not accustomed to the environment, and they begin to complain. That is your first opportunity right there to pull the person aside.

I would separate them from the group if you can in very casual manner. Don't make a scene out of it. You know, remember the phrase that you praise in public and you can criticize in private. There is an immense amount of value in doing so. So if this was me, I'm going to put myself in this situation. First thing I would do, if I was leading a group and would say it's larger than just a few people, I'm going to have more than one person in a support capacity. So the first thing that I would do is I would hand over the leadership for a few minutes to somebody that was working with me.

And I would pull this individual aside and I would have a conversation with them. Like, hey, you know, I noticed that you're starting to complain. And just so you know, that's actually not what we're here to do. You obviously knew that you were coming on this hunt or this camping trip to use your example. And everybody else here has been looking forward to doing this. Everybody is a volunteer here. You chose to come to this. So what I'm going to need you to do is if you have a complaint, do me a favor and come directly to me.

Let's not complain in front of the group. And since we're having a private conversation right now, what are your complaints? Do you happen to have any, or is it the fact that you are just uncomfortable in the environment and you're not used to being that way? And if you are, I have a question for you. You know, what was it that you were expecting from this? If it's a hunt or a camp, are we talking about you wanted a five-star dinner service when you ring a bell? And, you know, an a frame tent that actually looks like a five-star resort. You know, if that's what you were hoping, obviously that's not the environment that we're in and you shouldn't have expected that.

And if that is what you should expect, you know, we should probably talk about your participation going forward because that's not what it's going to be. My point in saying all this is I would directly address it with the individual as early as possible when those complaints begin. Because what I've noticed is if one person starts to complain and it's not addressed, that can become very infectious. And two people can start to complain and then three people can start to complain. And before you know it, you got a mutiny on your hands with your hunt or your camp. Now, if this individual escalates into refusing to move, refusing to carry their weight and being a general pain in the butt to everyone else, I really think the only option that you have, and you can probably again do a two-step process. Again, pull the individual to the side, and I would give them a warning and say, listen, you are not carrying your weight.

You are being a general pain in the butt to everyone else. There's no reason to beat around the bush because everybody that they're being a pain in the butt too knows that this is happening. The individual that is being the pain in the butt knows that it's happening. There's no benefit to being vague in your descriptions. I'd be very precise. and I would say, listen, these are the expectations that I have for you. You have to be able to carry your own weight. You have to be able to work as a team.

You need to be able to communicate. And you need to be the opposite of a pain in the butt. If you don't want to do the things that we're doing, I can understand that. But at the very least, I need you to keep your mouth shut and carry your weight. That would be the one warning that I would give somebody in this environment. If it went beyond that and they didn't participate and it continued to get worse, I would separate. them from the group. Again, this individual in this setting is obviously volunteering for this. And if it's a family hunt or somebody who's paying for a hunt or you're with a group of your

peers that you work with, it's worth the time and effort to exercise that cancer. And again, exercise it as early as you possibly can. So take that individual, separate them from the group, exercising good judgment and leadership. You counseled the individual, you mentored the individual, you laid out the standard for the individual. That individual chose to not live up to any of those things. So what happens after that is not on you as the leader. It's on that individual. And the best thing that you can do is show that you are going to be able to hold that standard and hold the line and that you care about the health of the team over just one individual that obviously has such a negative impact.

get a vehicle. And let's say I was, again, out on a hunt or out on a camping trip. Again, I would pass off the leadership role to somebody underneath me or another option would be to delegate somebody underneath you so you could stay with the group. I'd go get a vehicle and I would immediately separate the individual from the group and I would get them out of there. And then I would say to the group, does anybody have any questions or any problems about what just happened? And let me just tell you what they're probably going to say. No, we don't. And thank you for doing that.

And then you can move on. So that is how I would handle said situation. Question number two. Here we go. I'm going to get a drink of water before this one, because this one, like I said, is a touch long. Here we go. Andy, hands down.

No bullshit. 2020 was the best year of my life. A little on my bio. I have an amazing wife of 11 years and 2 sons, ages 8 and 6, I live in the suburbs west of Houston. In truth, I didn't. look ahead with great optimism at the start of 2020. I found myself making good money at a job where I had worked through the ranks, eventually getting my last name on the wall,

and on the sign out front of our building. I was commuting two hours a day, working long hours, never unplugging and generally loathing the day-to-day grind. I didn't come to feel the way overnight, but instead came to the realization I had been unhappy for years and was willing to trade the relative comfort of being unhappy, in parentheses, as it was a known quantity for the potential of something better and the uncertainty that comes with such a change. Then, through an interesting chain of events, an opportunity to move out of my job where I had invested over a decade of my life, presented itself, and I took the leap. That was the beginning of April and again 2020. I was tasked with standing up a new department in a multi-million dollar company. I was

surrounded by a team of amazing individuals, including second career, retired army officers that displayed phenomenal leadership skills. At the same time, I began working from home, an option that had never been available before. My boys were at home as in-person school shut down, as was my wife. In parentheses, my job is such that she doesn't have to work outside of the home. Without a commute, my morning exercise routine was extended. For weeks, the four of us ate three meals a day together. My boys and I had mid-morning wrestling matches. We took picnics to the park. We went on road trips. Had family game nights. We camped, fished, and hunted. We stopped watching TV and canceled social media. I slept better. We grew closer than we had ever been before. My work was beyond gratifying.

We found time that we either hadn't had before or hadn't taken or had taken for granted. Our pace of life slowed dramatically. We are Christians and we were able to to practice our faith at home with our boys. Though I now spend more time in a physical office, I largely set my own schedule, regularly walk my boys to school, and I'm around when they get home. I understand that my family's experience for 2020

may be outside the norm. However, I feel that so much of what I have heard about 2020, was that it was generally a horrible time. I can't help but think that there was also a silver lining to be found in the chaos as well. to the question, what do you believe are the best things to come out of 2020? And can those things continue beyond 2020? P.S., did you personally have a call sign in the teams?

If so, what was it? Let's talk about the call sign thing first. I mean, there was nicknames in the teams, but like a call sign in the team, I just don't really know of anybody who went by that. If you go back to the documentary Navy Seals and there was the sniper who went by the call sign of God, I never know anybody who did anything like that. Yeah, it was all nicknames. So, yeah, sorry, I hate to tell you. Didn't have a call sign, and I didn't really have a good nickname either.

Most of the time it was probably just dickface or something like that when people would look at me. But I digress. To your question, first off, congratulations on 2020. And I hope that it's extending through 2021. The reason I picked this question, and I'm sure people who listen to the podcast have heard me talk about this before, because I try to say it often because I think it's very important. If you look at the number of things that you can actually control in your life, if you were to write out a list, literally get a piece of paper out and make a tally,

things I can control, things I cannot control. And I recommend that people actually do this. And then, you know, maybe put on that list things that I am worried about. What you're going to find, if you go with a two or three category list, is that one of them is going to have almost nothing in it. And the other two, or one, depending on how you do your list, is going to be, I don't know, a page long, a page and a half long. And my point in saying all of that is,

when you get to the column that says things that I can control, you're really only going to have yourself in that column. Now, 2020 was a fuck show of a dumpster fire for a lot of people, for a lot of reasons. and you can't control a pandemic hitting. People who lived before us, you know, they probably didn't experience a pandemic. Maybe they did, depending on their lifespan, and people who will live after us. They might miss this lovely season that we are working our way through, the COVID-19 season.

Now, if you happen to be alive during the season, you have no control over whether or not a pandemic hits. But what you have complete and utter control of at all times is yourself. So although you can't choose what happens to you, you always get to choose how you receive what happens to you. And this email to me is a glowing example of what happens when you harness that control of the one thing you have control of yourself and you do something with it. You know, you talk about you had worked your way through the ranks and a name on the wall on the side of a building. And that's great. And I can make a little bit of an analogy here with the military for people. people who have been in for 10 or 15, 17, 18, 19 years, or they're approaching retirement age,

or they get past that 10-year window and they say, well, you know what, every day I'm closer to 20, so I might as well, I might as well just stick with it. And it's like this sunk, it's a sunken cost fallacy. Because if you just stick with it, what you would have missed is everything else that you described in the email. Instead, what you did is you took that opportunity and the road in front of you is probably a little bit hazy of where it could have been or the opportunities that would have presented themselves, but you took it, even though you have that sunk cost in the organization that you left and you describe that your life is so much better for so many reasons. And this is one thing that I tell, I don't caution people in the military about this, but I talk to

people in the military about this openly. You know, I'm at eight years. I don't know what to do. I guess I'll reenlist for another six because, you know, I know how to do this. And at least I can get that military retirement and health care, which is great. the way, if you're in the military and you're approaching retirement age, get the military health care, get the retirement. It's amazing. But just because you've been in for 10 years, you know, if you're not necessarily satisfied, you want to explore other options in your life, don't push that aside for another 10 years with the thought of only a military retirement and health care, because let me tell you right now. And I'll go back to this email and use this

email as an example. The path that this person is on right now is going to be exponentially better than the path that they were on before. And they're one year into this path versus 10. The exact same thing can happen when you're in the military. Or in law enforcement or fire, first responder, you pick the job title. Just because you've been doing something for 10 years does not mean that you can't turn right around and do something for a year or two years and be farther down the road. Pretty sure it's called the sunken cost fallacy.

And it's, God, the grips on that thing are so. so incredibly tight. Okay, back to the email. What are you think the best things that come out of 2020? Well, what I think some of the best things that could come out of 2020 is a sense of individual accountability and responsibility. And I know I'm a broken record to people, but guess what? If 2020 didn't shine a spotlight on who you are and how you conduct yourself from a health and wellness perspective, and it didn't get you to change your habits to trend towards something that is more healthy as opposed to something that's turning into job of the hut, that I don't know what to tell you because pretty much not a scientist or a doctor, obviously, but the data is pointing to

a lot of your survivability, especially when it comes to COVID, or let's just say COVID specifically, comes down to your health and wellness going into your exposure to it. Guess what? You have complete and utter control over that. Is some of that economically based when it comes to a quality of food perspective. Yes, it absolutely is. Can you work through that with, you know, with hard work and discipline and motivation? You're goddamn right. You can. So don't use it as an excuse. That to me would be the best thing that could come out of 2020 would be people realizing, hey, you know what? I need to do the best that I can to get myself into the best condition that I can physically and mentally. and I personally believe that those two are very intrinsically tied.

I do not know a lot of people that are obese or grossly who are obese, is that even the correct way to say that, who are morbidly obese that are happy about it or happy with their station in life. I do know quite a few people who bust their ass day in and day out, and they're in incredible shape and they're able to do amazing things in their life. And you know what? Guess what? They're really, really happy that they're in that position.

both of those individuals are responsible for the position that they are in. Can things like this continue beyond 2020? Yes, of course they can. And I've said this on the podcast before. I wish that at a national level, they would take the emphasis on COVID. And when we work our way through this season, which we will, they keep that emphasis, but shift it over to health and wellness. I really would like to see that. It would make a massive impact on our country, long term, longevity.

strain on the health care system, strain on the economy, it would be actually amazing. Some of the other best things that came out of 2020. Well, I think that for a lot of people, they were forced to take a look at what was actually a value to them in their life. And you, again, knocked this out of the park with the description of what your days were like. You ate meals together. You had activities to do with your boys. You went with them. You did things and it wasn't all based around this electronic device that I'm holding in my hand.

You disconnected from the bullshit world, which I would describe as anything that happens on a device. Yes, and yes, I realize like the news is important. I'm not saying don't pay attention to that. I'm saying, you know, don't judge the success or failure of your life based on what you see on Instagram or Facebook. Focus on the non-bullshit world, the people that you described in this email. And I think that if people were able to do that, that would be an amazing thing to come out of 2020. Can that continue beyond 2021? Yes, it absolutely can.

There was a lot of adversity in 2021. And I think because of that adversity, at least when I face adversity, and trust me, I've been close to bankruptcy. I've been pretty heavily in debt. I am divorced. I have been at the absolute rock bottom of what I think a human being can be. And I look at myself now today, you know, today in my life was pretty damn good day. I got to do some things that were really empowering and enriching to me with people that make my life better. I wouldn't be in this position had I not fought my way through that adversity.

And when you're fighting your way through that adversity, guess what? The world sucks. When you're losing your business because of COVID and you have bills to pay and a family to feed, yeah, that sucks. There's no way to wrap that up and put a bow on it so it doesn't just taste like eating a bag of dicks. But if you can get through that, if you can get through that season, you will be a stronger, more capable person because of it. And again, the sunken cost into what you used to do, do not focus on how long, you know, well, we lost our business and we had been at it for so many, like I get that. I understand it's important. There's legacy associated with that.

But you know what? Stop looking in the rear of you mirror and start looking forward and pave a new path for yourself. And take those failures and shove them into a fire and let that burn under your ass until nothing is going to be able to stop you. So with everything that has come from 2020 that has been negative, and there's been a lot of negative, I believe that a positive can come from that as long as the individual can view it from the correct context and what it can turn them into as opposed to. to being defined by those failures. Hopefully, that helped answer your question. Question three, the subject of this email was looking for some of that signature stump javelin justice.

You had me as hello. And the email begins, hello, never written an email to any podcaster or someone I follow, but here it is. Pardon the possible length. I'm 28, former army mechanic, married, born and raised in tamasel. Tampa, Florida. I'm sorry. I now live in Iowa. I'm sorry. Post-military decided to move back to her neck of the woods. Landing a really decent diesel mechanic job immediately, I was stoked. Now, this is five years later. Same job and 90% of my coworkers are racists. They have said some nasty

shit and laughed about it. They are white. I am white. My wife is Mexican. Some of my some of the people I hold highest as examples of tremendous leadership and integrity are African-American, Haitian, Mexican, Salvadorian. The list goes on. Most from the military, some from childhood. My boss's boss, also a racist, and has protected, by that I mean joined in, laughed, and tolerated all of this. They know exactly how I feel about it because I've called it out immediately. I feel good about how I've handled it. In letting them know, the facts that they are pieces of shit instead of making it a homicide. I'm outcast, but if I wasn't, I would be questioning my integrity. Now, my wife and I are moving south within a year, thank goodness. But not a day goes by where I don't think about force-feeding them razor blades after I've nailed their toes to the floor. I don't know why. I really love this visual. I like where your heads out on this.

I'm just biding my time. When I leave, I absolutely plan on calling HR again. Again, as I've already let some of this be known to our representative, while we were talking about my transfer and why I wanted to leave. Any tips on any of this? What would you do differently? What are your thoughts and any tips on anything? I already journal, therapy, and counseling work out, but the anger still burns within. Side note, I've been in therapy for over a year directly because of you and your podcast.

You have positively affected my life, my marriage, and how I view myself. For that, I thank you. and please keep telling people the radar scope joke fuck that guy in the comments that brought it up i applaud you sir you're you're not the hero that i deserve but you're the hero i have in front of me yeah fuck that guy about the radar scope joke even though i haven't told it since then because i still remember that comment and it bothered me but on the therapy and uh the fact that you're in therapy and it has directly helped you this is uh this is one hill that i will die on i am never going to stop talking about the impact it has had on my personal life. And I know quite a few people now in my own

personal social circle who say exactly the same thing. To include a few who said, you know what, I never thought I would go talk to somebody. But I am so incredibly glad that I did. So if you don't like to hear about the benefit of talking with a professional and exploring who you are and what you believe and why, then my podcast may not be for you. But now let's get into your question. I had a conversation with my sons last week. They were having a completely different situation with some of their friends, and they were involved with a conversation on Snapchat. They were in a group chat, and I'll get to what was going on there, but the advice that

I gave them is the same advice that I would give you. Let's talk about what you've already done. You addressed it in person. Check. Awesome. First step. I applaud you for that. you have addressed it at least some level with the HR people that have spoken to you about your transfer check applaud you for that as well too you plan to follow up with the HR people check that's exactly what you should be doing but it's burning you alive okay fast forward now we're not fast forward lateral to my sons they're having a snapchat conversation about a friend who had left the valley who is now going to come back to the valley and all he is doing is just talking smack you know basically shit talking both of my sons

to the point where I thought it might end up in a physical altercation. But what I was watching more than anything, I didn't end up going that way, and I didn't, I guess in the back of my mind, I didn't think that it would. What I was watching more than anything was their reaction to what was being said to them and how tied they were to it, how they felt like they had to respond. And what I ended up doing was having a conversation with my middle son. And what I said to him, you know, I was asking him what's going on and why he was, he was furiously typing onto his phone.

I was like, you know, what's going on, buddy? He's like, well, this guy said this and I have to respond. And I said, okay, when you're responding or when you have responded in the past, is he listening to what you say? Is he considering what you say, or is it all about him saying what he wants to? He's like, no, he doesn't, he won't listen to me. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to make a point and he refuses to make the point. And I said to him, you know, when you're talking with irrational people, the odds of you

being able to make a point are oftentimes zero. So, have you ever played tug-of-war? And he looked at me a little bit off. He's like, yeah, of course I played tug-of-war. I said, okay, you realize that tug-of-war is a voluntary exchange between individuals or groups. And at any point in time in that exchange, you have the ability to let go of the rope. And when you're sitting here and I'm watching you get angry with this individual who, who refuses to listen to what you have to say, you are choosing to participate in that. And perhaps it's time for you to give up the rope,

to let go of the rope and stop reading with this person has to say, stop responding back to them because you have the realization that nothing that you say is going to change anything. Let go of the rope and let go of it emotionally. I'm telling you right now, you'll sleep better, you'll feel better, your life would be better. And that's the exact advice that I would give you here. you have done everything that you can.

There are people on this earth who are pieces of shit. That's the way that it goes. And there are people on this earth who are never going to believe what you believe. They are never going to value what you value. And you can sit at home and journal and go through therapy and counseling and work out and have anger that still burns within you. But let me tell you right now what they're not doing. All of those things. Why? Because they're pieces of shit.

So the best advice that I can give you, you've already done all of the steps that I would recommend. I would absolutely follow up with the HR person. I think that's a phenomenal step. Beyond that, let go of the rope and let it go. You are not going to solve the problem of racism, especially in that organization, especially if it's already escalated up that chain of command and that corporate ladder to your boss's boss. There's nothing that you can do. What I like to feed razor blades to somebody who has their feet nailed to the ground?

In certain situations, yes, I would. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's not going to help anything. Thinking about that is energy that you're expending. And again, guess who's not expending any of that? They're not. Let go of the rope and do your best to not think about those people again and move forward. And if you encounter people like that again, it sounds to me like you are transferring.

and maybe hopefully you're transferring out of that organization, but I guess even if you're transferring in the organization, and if you have these problems again, you need to find a different job in a different organization because that organization in and of itself is insidious if this is replacing itself or repeating itself wherever you may land. It's, and I'll say this, letting go and realizing there's nothing else that you can do and trying not to expend that energy on other people, because trust me, there's nobody who believes in revenge more than I do, is extremely difficult. But you'll be a different, lighter, healthier person if you're able to do it. So, sir, you've done what you can.

Put down the rope. Question four. Longtime listener, first time caller. I would love to hear your perspective on the shooting that occurred in Boulder, Colorado. This one hit home as I moved to Colorado two years ago, and the incident occurred at a grocery store that I had been to dozens of times. How would you handle the situation unfolding? with you in the store. I know you carry, but I'm curious what your advice would be to those of us who aren't allowed to while working. I'm a vendor who has multiple grocery store accounts. I visit on a

daily basis, and my work doesn't allow us to carry while on the clock. Your insights would be much appreciated. Now, I selected this question because I've gotten a version of this question many times since this shooting occurred in Colorado, and I wish I had some succinct guidance to give people. The reality is tactical situations vary by the individual and they vary by the structure. I am not familiar with the layout of the grocery store. And my actions would depend on whether or not I was alone or with my kids and loved ones. Because my primary move, let's start if I was alone. I'm alone in a grocery store.

I'm carrying and I hear gunfire. I am going to go towards the sound of the guns. I'm going to maneuver tactically using cover and concealment as they present themselves. And if I suspect that an incident like happened in Boulder is playing itself out, I'm willing to give my life in an attempt to stop that to prevent the innocent loss of life. So I am going to attempt to maneuver on and flank that individual and put a moonroof in their face. Now, if I am with my kids or loved ones, my first move is going to be to give them. a direction to go in the opposite direction of the shooter. And then I'm going to do exactly what I said I would open with if I was by myself. Because my primary goal in that situation where I have my

children or loved ones with me is to make sure that they are safe to at least give them some direction. Maybe it's, hey, get out that fire door right there and just keep running. Because reality is, if you're in a gun fight and you don't have a gun, your options are limited depending on the distance. If you're far away, your best option is to increase the distance. If you're in a middle zone and again, you're unarmed, you know, I'm not a fan of hiding in place. And I'll tell you why. Hitting a moving target is a lot harder to do than hitting a stationary target, especially one that has crumpled up and made themselves into a pretty compact bullet sponge, for lack of a better term. If you're at a very close distance, maybe this won't make sense to

people, but the best move may actually be to close that distance even more and actually wrap your arms around the person, specifically with a rifle. I believe this was a 556 pistol, so I'm not exactly sure on the exact, you know, the barrel length or the stock or anything like that. But let me tell you this, if I take a rifle, and I'm assuming this individual was shooting with two hands, right? So one on the four grip, one on the pistol grip, they probably were bringing it to their shoulder. And we would do this in training scenarios when we were clearing. rooms, especially when we used to be doing it dynamically. If you didn't clear into your corner effectively and you started training your weapon out on the room in front of you, and there was

somebody in that corner, all they have to do is wrap their arms around you, bear hug you, and yeah, you might still be able to pull the trigger, but you're not going to be hitting anything, you're going to be driven to the ground. So even if I wasn't carrying and I watched somebody come into a grocery store or I hear shots in a grocery store, and I have the ability to close the distance and wrap up with that person, that's what I'm going to do. Is there a chance you you might get shot on the way in. Yes, there is. But guess what? It's not the fucking movies. You can actually eat a few holes as long as they don't shut the running lights off. It's going to hurt. It might change the trajectory of your life, but you might be able to save a lot of lives

in doing so. But again, that distance actually matters. And again, because I don't know the layout of the store and I don't want to give exact, you know, precise tactical guidance. What I would say is manage your distance. If you're far away, get out of there. I would advise people if they can, if they have the ability to use concealment and move away from a shooter, that's great. I would do so because if you hide behind cover and the person gets closer and closer and closer and closer and closer and you don't move, they're going to find you dead behind cover. If you get flanked behind cover, the cover no longer works.

And that's kind of how I view it. I mean, there's not like an A, B, or C. what I would advise people to do is that if they can get involved and that doesn't mean bum rushing a shooter that means we know do everything you can you see somebody on the ground who is injured treat that person if you're behind cover pull them behind cover you know do whatever you can to make a difference in this situation I know the police eventually showed up I'm there the picture I saw the individual was at least bleeding, so I'm assuming there was an exchange of gunfire. But just because that person is pulled out of it, that doesn't mean the emergency is over. I often say this when it comes to people

who don't like guns or they don't want to use guns. Like, you know what, that's awesome. I support your beliefs. But what I hope you'd be able to do is learn how to stop bleeding because being able to provide that trauma care in these situations, that's another way that you can be a value add to everything, to everybody around you, not everything, obviously. If you're not allowed to carry, then You know what? Your options are limited. If you are allowed to carry, you may have more options. But again, you know, time, distance, and tactical situation are going to have to dictate what you do. And I'm not the type of person that's going to say, hey, in this situation, I would have moved to here and then here and then here and done this. And everybody should have done that with me because I don't know enough about it.

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