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Episode Date: March 25, 2022

Rapid Fire Q and A to finish off the week with guest host and UFC fighter Jim Miller. We covered a variety of topics on this one, from professional fighting advice, favorite hunting snacks, what to look for in a BJJ gym, how to know when it is time to retire, favorite fights, favorite submissions, and much more. Enjoy

Okay, got to red smoke. I take no response. North and south. West of the smoke. West up of smoke. Okay, copy. West of the smoke. I'm looking at danger close now.

I'm all winning, then. I take no responsibility for these questions because they come from the Internet. So Fridays I do simple Q&A. But sometimes we have very special guests like yourself. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. one of the first questions was about Lyme disease, which I'm going to reference to people come and listen to the podcast on Monday because you actually talked quite a bit about how you got it, how much it fucked you up, and then what you are doing to manage it.

So yeah. Let's see here. All right. Let's start with question one from Rory Singer, SDG Black Belt, also UFC fighter. also taller than you how will you know how and when

will you know it is time to retire oh that's a lot I thought he was going to ask something a little bit sillier he's a silly goose he is yeah yeah

I mean I mean I am I am playing it by ear I am going fight by fight. I've always been good at going fight by fight. Like I'm, I don't, uh, really think about my, my, my previous fights, win or lose. Like, you know, you deal with

it. The, the, the direct posit falls into my bank account and it's like, hey, it's in the past. Like, awesome. Um, win or lose, right? Posit or negative. Yeah. Um, it's really going to be how I can train consistently. Um, I think, I think when training gets a little too difficult to do what I need to do, then that's going to be the time. But on the flip side, if I can get all the way to UFC 300, which will probably be in like two years-ish, two and a half years, then you know what? Maybe we'll call it then. Like, I'm excited for that last fight. I'm actually like, it gives me chills thinking about it, making my life.

making my last walk and knowing it. Like I'm not, I'm not an emotional guy where I'm going to like make a, you know, rash decision, uh, on the fly because I lost or whatever or disappointed. Um,

I want to know going into it that it's my last one. And I, and I know that that feeling that I'm going to have walking into my last one is going to be fucking awesome. Um, so yeah, so it really it's just like, how easy,

training is or if I you know make it to that goal I think I hope by then we've got everything else sorted out and like yeah you know I can transition as a as a provider to something else the username for this person is monstrous subconscious he or she says I'm fucking psyched ask him about pork roll I have no idea what this question is how first of all first of all What was it monstrous? Subconscious. Subconscious.

So there's a thing called Taylor Ham in New Jersey. What are we talking about? We're talking about a breakfast meat. It's basically a baloney that is lacto-fermented, so it's got a little like tanginess to it. It's fucking delicious. Like a Taylor Ham egg and cheese is kind of quintessentially like New Jersey. It's hard to find outside of New Jersey. There is a debate.

Um, so they like to say, they like to say that it's like North Jersey and South Jersey. Um, and then there are people who are like, oh, what about Central Jersey? There's no such thing as Central Jersey. Um, people in North Jersey call it Taylor Ham. People who are wrong call it pork roll. That's like, that's basically what it is. They're the same thing. Um, it's like, is it packaged the same way?

Well, let me describe it like this. Okay. So when you go, when you go to a restaurant, And you're, you want a soda, right? In a red can. It's got white lettering. Are you going to order a Coke? Or are you going to order a cola?

You're going to order a fucking Coke because that's what it is. I would agree. It's a fucking Coke. It's Taylor Ham. So there's this debate that, so it, it's pork roll, okay? Which is the type of, like, meat, you know, baloney, the chub. I've made it in the past. It's fucking awesome.

You're a good chub in the mouth? I fucking love a good chub. And this tangy chub. It's the best. It, yeah, so there's a debate, and it's obviously, it's funny because... This is obviously somebody from Jersey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's all pork roll.

I've made pork roll, but Taylor Ham is the brand name, and it's the best one, other than the ones that I've made. My chub is better. So it's kind of like that. It's like Coke versus Cola. But it's a fun debate that we have, you know, with the people that are in the north and correct and the people that are below the north and incorrect. It almost gives you some insight information about them without knowing much about them. Yeah, yeah. You're a stupid mouth breather if you call a pork roll.

Fair enough. What is your favorite moment from your fighting career? your favorite fight, your favorite moment. And this is a standalone episode, so we should be clear. You've had 39 UFC fights. You hold the record for most fights in the UFC. And for also being the oldest fighters. Easily.

By a lot. No, so 39 fights in the UFC. So not necessarily your favorite fight, your number one favorite moment from your, I'll go even broader, fighting career. That's a fucking hard one. Um, there was, there was a, there was a moment, you know, like, after my first fight with Joe Lozahn, where, like, initially I, like, kind of laid on him for a second, uh, which I feel bad about. Uh, and then I, I stood up and, like, the, the fucking roar of the crowd was deafening. And, uh, it was, it was amazing. Like, I could still hear it, you know, um, um, that was that was fucking awesome um yeah like fighting fighting fighting on the same card with my brother the same ufc card uh we did that twice um that was like crazy and cool that's a lot of miller yeah yeah

like we were i think the only brothers to ever both win on the same night um and then uh we did it again and we fought back to back on the main card which was insane uh and like didn't go as well We were one-on-one that night. But, yeah, like, sharing it with Dan was pretty epic. And then having my kids there was fucking awesome, too. Like, sharing it with them. I don't know. It's, that's really hard because there's another one.

Walking out for my fight against Clay Guida. I don't know what it was. Like, here's a guy that I've been a fan of, cool with, super-rolet. awesome dude could have fought years ago finally get our opportunity to fight I was so like excited to fight him um like because I think it was because they were talking about in in his lead-up they were talking about like retirement and he's like he can talk about it all he wants but I'm not retiring anytime soon so then maybe I had that in my brain and uh like like I had chills and like I was I was on I was borderline like emotional but not in like

like an angry way. Like, like, I almost had tears in my eyes. Um, I don't know. It was for whatever fucking reason, but it was, it was pretty awesome. Uh, there have been, there have been a few that were, uh, really special. What was the hardest part about pursuing fighting as a career for you, that most people wouldn't really consider or would likely overlook and how did you get past that? Um, I mean, the hardest part is like the, the uncertainty. Right. We get a couple opportunities a year to fight to make money. And it's a fucking, it's a hell of a way to pay the bills.

Because there have been plenty of fights where I was super banged up and you're like, you're questioning yourself, like, do I, is it worth it? Is it worth it to make it to the fight? And, you know, to get paid, am I going to be able to win so that I can make twice as much money? Um, is it always like that? Do you always get, there's, there are certain levels. Okay. Most of the majority of us, it's, it's, uh, the same amount to show and to win.

Uh, once you get beyond a certain point, they, they kind of switch it up a little bit. Okay. A piece of advice for someone about to do their first MMA fight. I have fun. Like, um, don't, don't, don't worry about what anybody's going to say or what any, he's going to, anybody's going to think. you're doing it for you for you like i i fight for me i i i appreciate the fans i fucking love it i love hearing the roar of the fans um but uh i also i i literally fight for myself um and like you run through a lot of emotions what if the what if this what if that um you know guys

that are at my level and and like beyond they don't give a shit if you have a hiccup and you you know hey man everybody gets knocked out like it happens is it embarrassing only if you let it be like shit happens you're in a fist fight um so so don't worry about what anybody else is saying or thinking and and just go in there to have fun and do it because you want to do it uh not because like, hey, I'm going to be able to tell the guys at the bar or, you know, the kids that I went to high school with are going to think I'm cooler. Like, nobody fucking cares. I feel like it would be hard to have fun at the same time taking it as seriously as you do. Like, I go, I'll ride dirt bikes.

That's fun. But I have, I'm out there. It's like, this is a hobby, right? Or snowboarding. Fun. If I was, they're like, hey, you have three runs this year on this snowboard and you either do really well and you're going to get paid or you'd, you'd, fucking go into the trees and we life flight you out it would be hard to have fun and i and i think have you found it to be easier to have fun later in your career than earlier on when you were

trying to establish yourself and build into it it depends on what you consider fun uh making another person submit it's super like for some people it actually says quite a lot about you jim yeah i'm not judging at all when when you when i'm going to get close to the microphone when you see somebody quit on the stool in between rounds it's like like there's like there's sex and then there's that and they're like it no it's it can you just tell when they're ready to emotionally throw the towel sometimes yeah yeah when when you see somebody break it's like I don't consider myself an egotistical guy but when you see that it's like fuck yeah but do they break and then stand up and come back in and you just know sometimes yeah yeah

sometimes it's like you you know that you can see it you know that the end that's coming soon and They're just, they're looking for a way out and you're there to show them. Fair. Changing topics. What is both of ours? Go to Hunting Snack. Ooh, what's your favorite out in the woods? I have actually different ones depending on the terrain.

Like mountainous, I like gorp. Yeah. Which is like, like, you know, your favorite thing in your mouth, salami. And then, like, sheizes. Taylor ham. It kind of shifts on my activities. It's in your hunting backpack. What's your go-to?

I have one that I have in every hunting backpack. And it's fucking good. I'd have to say probably most often it's like cliff bars or something. Or it's risky. It's risky to do it because they're very fragile. And I don't like admitting it because it's not a food on the list. that I normally eat, but a Pop-Tart? Like.

Nobody wants a crumbly Pop-Tart, though. I know. I know. It completely changes the experience. And emotionally for me, that changes the taste. Like, but when you're, when you're like planning for a backpacking trip or something like that, man, like, they are super calorically dense. So, like, you know, you're, yeah, you got to, you got to feed it as much as you can. But, yeah, I don't usually feel good after I eat them, but.

So my go to is peanut butter and honey with crumbled up bacon. Sounds delicious. Oh, it's unbelievably good. You know you've made it right when the honey is seeping through the bread, but it takes prep. So you mix, you got to cook the bacon, obviously. Don't go like this bush, bourgeois class fucking pre-made bacon. I like leave that for the others. You get some bacon, cut it up in small pieces.

Combine the honey and butter and put it all in and you whip it before. because I've experimented with almost every version of this, like peanut butter, honey pieces of bacon. No, it doesn't do it. You got to homogenize it. Homogenize it, but you need enough honey so that when you, and of course you make up like a mound in the center and then you seal the outside edge.

And you know it's perfect. Uncrustible. Correct. Yeah. And you know it's perfect when a few hours into your day. Of course, this is not a one and done. There's multiple leaves in my backpack because there's so much fucking sugar in this. Once you eat it, you have to stay on the car.

carb training, that it's soaking through the bread. So the bread you can tell looks wet, but it's just the honey waiting for you. That is my number one. It sounds delicious. It's good and I've actually, deadly enjoys it as well. There's a couple pictures of us just mowing these things down

on the back of the black truck. This one's certainly for you. I'm curious your thoughts on this, even though I think can have any do. What are your thoughts on Jorge Masfadol, soccer punching Colby at a restaurant because he lost a sanction fight badly? Now, for clarity, I'm not exactly sure that's what happened.

I heard they got into a scuffle. I don't know either of them. Thoughts about two professional athletes in the same line of business that just had a fight. And it went the way that it went, deciding to be at a bar. And one of them's like fucking Jorge, Massvedol, Covington, too. Here we go. I think it's pathetic as shit, to be perfectly honest. And I like fucking Jorge.

And I don't know, again, clear, we don't know if he sucker punched who. Yeah. They did, they did apparently get into it, though. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a, I'm not a fan of that shit. Like, he had 25 minutes, right? I think it was a 25-minute fight. It was a five-rounder.

Yeah. Yeah. To give his opinion and then to, you know, fucking track somebody down. Like, you know. Maybe he needed 26 minutes. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It seems bizarre to me that people who get paid to fight would risk, I mean, at least in the UFC, and again, I don't know shit about fighting.

I avoid violence at all costs until it's time for violence, and then I'm going to give it the most violence. You've got to switch it on, yeah. Yeah. But watching the UFC, there's doctors, there's a referee, you guys have got mouthpieces in. You have taped hands. You have gloves that I'm still pretty sure don't do much for you, but a little bit of protection. there's medical staff on site and also you're getting paid yeah that's like understandable it's it's a hundred percent of fucking bonehead move because the every time i see the videos online of like uh people

like even sparring like in really bad places like on asphalt and shit you don't know what the fuck's gonna happen and like was horay thinking it through that like hey man if you connect and you do put him out because it could easily happen. Oh, he could bounce his head right off that concrete. And yeah, he hits his head on the fucking curb or a fire hydrant or something like that. Boom, he's dead. What are you doing? You're in fucking jail. Like, it's not fucking worth it. It wasn't, it was all because of some talk and the outcome of a fight that you had your opportunity in. He should have thought it through, I think, a bit more. But he also seems like a very passionate individual that doesn't always think before he does stuff.

So just in, and maybe you don't know the answer to this, but in your experience at the UFC, that was, you know, Covington, Massvedol won. Yeah. If either or both wanted to give it a second go, how hard would it be for them to have a second go in that environment with the doctor, with, you know what I mean, with all that stuff? I mean, after the outcome of that first fight, even with the scuffle, it's still going to be hard to sell the next one. Would you say it was a pretty dominating performance for Covington?

Covington completely dominated them, you know, except for one, like, good shot, it seemed like. So, like, Jorge's best bet would have been to beat the shit out of some other people, and then maybe do that, right? And then maybe have the confrontation that gets, you know, the video and all this stuff. so it builds the next fight. But doing it immediately after, it just looks like a hissy fit. It's kind of a bad look. Yeah.

I personally don't think it adds anything to a rematch at this point. If that's what his goal was, I don't know. They're fighting over being the king of Miami, so who the hell knows? I'm going to stay really far away from that. Yeah, yeah. It's a crazy place. Question for both of our perspectives. I am 42 and have a physically demanding job.

Over the years, I have collected a laundry list of major injuries not limited to a torn rotator cuff, muscle damage in my back, and a broken ankle. I want to get into BJJ, but I am hesitant because of said injuries. I know that's nothing compared to being shot or having nerve damage. Is BJJ right for me? And I asked this because we were chatting about this on our way to get coffee. What are your thoughts? The only way you're going to find out is if you do it. That's the biggest step is that first one into the door.

And it can be hard because there are still, unfortunately, some hacks out there that have gyms. Do you think that there are more hacks or the hacks are growing faster or the legitimate ones are given the popularity of BJJ? I think the legitimate ones greatly outweigh the hacks. But anyone should understand it. I personally believe that J-J-ZU is for everything. everybody, that you can, you can make it for yourself. Like, if people aren't comfortable with starting from their feet, start from your knees, start from guard. I have, like, I think one of the reasons that I excelled in jih Tzu is like, okay, well, I had a wrestling advantage, you know,

so I wasn't really starting with, on my feet with, you know, the average person. So then it was, I'm not just starting from the guard, I'm giving them dominant positions. Yeah. So the more you, the more you give somebody, like, and you have to work out of it, the more willing you're going to be to attack, because anytime you attack, you're opening yourself up to be passed or put in the shitty spots. And nobody turns that stuff down. Like, hey, mount me. Oh, fuck, yeah. No, I really don't want to. Yeah. Yeah. Take my back. You know, no, no, I won't do that. But never to you, sir. It's, it's okay. It's okay to tap early. It's okay to start from other positions and it's okay to, you know, voice those things.

I think it's also okay to be honest with your training partner. I was like, yeah, and your coach is fucked up. Yeah. My knee is jacked up and like, I've actually seen people who will put colored tape on like an arm or a leg. And if you're at a gym where they're not respecting that, I would say find another gym. Exactly. Because that's a shit, Matt culture.

100%. All of it can be worked around. just about all of it, right? Can be worked around. And over the years, I've had to work around plenty of stuff. And, like, I've seen plenty of people work around other injuries and stuff like that. So it's about, like, literally, the best thing about Jiu-Jitsu is that you can stop it at any time. It doesn't matter if you tap early.

like I've had fucked up feet and knees and stuff going into fights and as soon as somebody would grab my leg that I don't care yeah like you didn't you didn't win anything from me you didn't take anything from me I'm just chose that I didn't want to fight through that position

where I'm confident that I could have but I chose not to because it was a smart decision to make so you have the control as long as you're you're not training with absolute spas. What's the most common injury you've seen in Jiu-Jitsu? I mean, it would probably be like elbows and knees, popped elbows, and unfortunately, like, knees, knees are fucking bad.

You see it from either way. You're talking about, like, torque or, like, knee bar? I think a lot of the injuries come from either wrestling or leg locks, so it's a lot of, like, ACLs and shit like that. as a gym owner, that's what I saw the most is... I heard one of those go about a year ago, and it was... Yeah. It was slightly nauseating.

Yeah, it's bad. Yeah. I actually did it when I was wrestling college. I picked one of my training partners up, and I brought him down, and he pussed his leg out, and it went, and it was like, crack! I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, when it comes to working around the injuries, you have plenty of options because it's your ego that's going to make you fight through something or not. You can always restart. What's the worst injury you've seen in jiu-jitsu? In jiu-jitsu? I'm assuming it was probably accidental, but there's some pretty juicy ones. I mean, probably probably a knee, yeah. One of my buddies was training, and he was putting a lockdown.

And The bullshit wrestler move Just so you know It's not a wrestler move Yeah it is Lockdown The guy who did it to me Told it was

Oh yeah I learned how to get out of it So fuck you guys Yeah Yeah And he went through He turned his leg the wrong way And it was like

Bang And he yeah He got fucked up good Yeah That's gonna be a good Six to 12 months Off the mat That's rough

Thoughts on Busheshah Is he the best in the world This is I don't I mean I know a little bit about who he is he's a large man yeah

I don't know I mean who's at the apex of the jiu jitza world in your mind which is not really the world you live in it's a part of what you do yeah yeah I don't follow it too deeply um

like yeah my my world is focused more on on MMA um yeah I hear Hodger Gracie a lot oh Hodger is fucking he's a fucking and he's another animal.

Yeah. Who I believe he did two rounds against, or bouts against Bichesh. I think they went one-one. Yeah. So there you go. 50% of the time, Bichessess is the best.

Like, Gordon is, like, we're talking like ghee, but like no ghee. I mean, Gordon is like... He seems to be on a just an absolute different level. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Are we talking pound for pound, too? There's so many things that go into that.

There's so many good guys and gals out there. Fair. How to approach a new gym having never done, BJJ, attitude to have, expectations to have, things to look for. And you owned a gym for seven years. Seven years. So you're in a good place to answer this. What would you recommend? Approach, attitude, expectations.

Attitude is throw the ego out the door just like one of the people. previous questions, you know? Super easy to do, especially for adult males. Yeah. Like, it is a, your goal is to get better not to win in training. So be comfortable giving up sometimes. It's okay because it will prolong your training career. If you are willing to, you know, sometimes, sometimes you have to test yourself.

Sometimes you have to, you know, grit down and fight through some stuff. Like with chokes, I'm usually not that concerned. Like, I'll fight through. I mean, worst case on a choke, you go to sleep first. Yeah, and then maybe peeping your pants a little bit. Yeah. Worst case on the joint lock, different stories. Exactly, exactly.

So, you know, have the attitude that you're there to learn and not win. I mean, questions. Any warning signs, red flags that you would alert people to? I mean, it's tough. I mean, obviously, like, there are some train wrecks of instructors and gym owners out there. You know, if they're uncomfortably close to young female students. Or if they're... Yeah.

Or I'd almost say if it's all 18 to 22-year-old dudes. Yeah. And not in that age bracket or demographic. Yeah. Use with caution. Yeah. Because that's going to be a fucking wood chipper. It's, I would say watch a class first, too, and right, it's, even though, like, I'm not a, I'm not a geek guy.

But you can tell a lot about. You're talking about you training the geek today. I did. It was the first time in like three and a half years. I saw you were using your grips more than normal. Yeah. I was like, how do I break it? Oh, wait.

You know, things were starting to come back to me towards the end of the round. You can tell a lot about. how somebody rolls, unfortunately, it's kind of like, you know, you're using, you're using your judgment skills, but the way that somebody's ghee and the way they wear it can tell you a lot about the way they approach jitsu. Really? I feel like it. When somebody is like, just looks like they were just fucking pulled out of the, you know,

washing machine and they're all over the things spilled fuck yeah that's usually a spas like more often than not like more often than that that's the that's the that's the that's the that's the you know that's the that's the d1 wrestler that was told they need to wear a ghee or something like that like uh standby yeah like and like my my as an owner my target you know uh avatar right my target audience was like 45-year-old meant because it's like, hey, you've already started your family. You've got a, you've got a good job, you've got a house. You're not going anywhere. Those 22-year-old kids, man, they fucking run off, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, I'd say like, watch class, see how things go, see how things are run. You do want it to be, if you're worried about injuries, like, you do

want it to be, you know, a controlled atmosphere. Obviously, things still happen, accident still happen but uh you know just uh be be ready to have a couple scuffs and it's not patty cakes no yeah it's not but it's i think it's unrealistic for people to go and think it's completely safe and controlled environment which i don't think it ever could be which is probably what i an aspect of what i enjoy about it but you don't have to gamble yeah your safety the the best thing about it, right, is that you discover a little bit about yourself. And that's one of my biggest issues with other martial arts is that, like, since there really is no live training, like, like, oh, we're just going over groin strikes and eye pokes. Well, you can't do that to somebody

and then have them show up the next day. So, true story. We get to play fight, and you learn a lot about yourself in that process. And sometimes you do get your butt kicked. But it's a journey. It's learning experience and, you know, be prepared to have to tape some things here and there. And, you know, maybe to get ringworm. Yeah, maybe staff. Which UFC submission win is your favorite? Not necessarily yours.

Highlight reel of highlight reels. Actually, we'll do both. What's your favorite one of all time in the UFC? Doesn't have to be one of your fights and then the favorite one of your fight. Um favorite one of mine I would have to say that's that's a toss up

between either 162 against Fabrizio Camos with a beautiful fucking armor that should have won a $75,000 bonus but politics gotten away or my

while it's still it almost it was kind of a learning experience and it weird me out a little bit is my submission over Clay Guida where I choked him unconscious because that's the first time I've ever choked somebody out and didn't know they were out. So it- What type of choke was it? Guileteen. I was a little rocked and the way posture was.

Somehow he held me up even though we went out. So I didn't think he was out and it like it's a learning experience for me because it's like, well, that shit can happen, you know, and the stuff. do is it's yeah it's play fighting um submission wise what's my favorite one uh i mean like all time there have been some really good ones but like uh i mean my brother's debut um back in you know 2008 when he rear naked choked the guy was standing guy like arched back like it was uh that was a that was the beginning of you know mine and his like ufc era and careers and uh you know that was that was fucking awesome very specific

question what was your memory of august 27th 2011 at ufc 134 in rio de janeiro when your older brother dan miller fought who's mar paul harris that's not what i was going to say thank you thank you for correct to me on that before i even said it because i was about to murder dokiño i'm about to murder the fuck out of that name tree stump yeah uh was this like an epic battle because it was the craziest fight i've ever witnessed in my life um the atmosphere around that that was like the ufc's first resilient event in brazil the ufc people were super amped up about it and like super cautious about our safety which had never happened before so it was like really weird um then he you know also like fight night it for whatever reason it still feels like it was the darkest arena i've ever been in

um it just really felt like there was one light you know somebody had their flashlight above the octagon uh yeah and then like they get into this crazy fight uh i was begging my brother to throw some leg kicks and he wouldn't throw any and like he never did and it's a shame because he could freaking kick like a mule um and yeah has a crazy fight where it almost like paharis thought he stopped my brother and he didn't and then dan gets up and yells fuck and looks at me and i'm like the fight's still going like pointing to bahars he like runs over to him and almost pulls him off the octagon uh yeah it was uh it was it was super super intense um it was a it was a crazy event uh what was the end result of the fight Dan ended up losing a decision.

All right. Why did you change your walkout music from CCR? Because I needed to, like, update things. What was the song? Which CCR song? Bad Moon Rising. You know, because shit's going down. Yep.

We talked about it on the podcast. I used to get really amped up, and I kind of felt like I needed to, that song was kind of helping me get amped up. I need to kind of control myself. So I, you know, the walkout is for me. I'm sorry, it's not for you guys. Like, this is, this is not like, how dare you. Yeah, it's not WWE where it's like a branding thing. Like, this is not my song.

It's just, it's a song that I love. So, like, today, like, things that mean more to me are walking out to songs that means something to someone else, like, that I care about. like when my kids were there they love don't mess around with Jim even though he gets his ass kicked so I came out to don't mess around with Jim when they were there finished the guy in the first round my wife loves queen so I walked out to Queen when I fought Clay Guida finished him in the first round my strength ignition coach every time like he was he he moved away he was out of my corner for years

COVID hit. He's able to come back because I needed somebody else in my corner. And every time we would lift, if there was a kiss song on, I would PR. So I came out to I was me loving you. My kiss and my opponent didn't seem to take it very well. He was smirking at me. Finish him in the first round. So actually I, you know, I'm hoping that Dudley comes to a fight one day because I'm going to come out to night moves and I'm going to be fucking fired the fuck up. We have to make this happen. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Fair enough.

Last question. How long would Andy have to train to submit you? As long as he has. It's not, it's training. Like, it's training. And shit happens. There are good days. There are bad days.

People do good things. It wouldn't be the first time that I've been submitted by a Purple Belt. And I have zero, like, it does not matter to me. As it shouldn't matter. Because we're not actually opponents. We're just training partners. Yeah. Like, I want you to submit me.

If I'm- I want me to submit you. Why? Let's just make this happen. Like, I want my training partners to either do things that are, So good like they do them so well that I can't prevent it or they do something that's new that I haven't seen before so that I can learn like oh shit. I'm open for this or I'm making this mistake Or holy shit he set up this arm bar perfectly. I want that and everybody should want that. It doesn't it doesn't matter. I think it's the mark of a great coach too is they're they're comfortable and aiming to develop people that can exceed what they are capable of doing.

Because you have to get out of your own way to be able to do that. You do. And I mean, the thing is, is there, are there, like, there are purple belts on this planet that I'd have to be half dead or three quarters dead for them to submit me? Seven, eighths. Seven, eighths, probably. Nine-tenths? Like, but.

Almost there. like and like you're not you're not a pipsqueak you know you're not an average height I'm an average height man yeah we discuss this in the podcast where you fall like like yes uh size and strength they matter they matter they are a they are a tool to use uh so as like the little guy you always have to worry about that you know like you have to account for that when you're training with somebody that's bigger than you that they can use gravity and they can use their size So it's Like an athlete and I can't stand it when in jiu-tzu

Some people Say that like athleticism is a crutch in jiu-jitsu It's not a crutch it's a it is a fucking tool and you should use it as much as you can because conditioning Like if you can go longer than somebody That's what like like if it's called grind them to dust I stepped off the mat before you did like you were went four fucking rounds, at least after I went. If we'd continued to roll round after round, you probably would have fucking caught me.

Okay? Like, I said you went so crazy hard. I'll give you guys the recap of the role. Jim and I finally had our battle. He went crazy. I started it off with a slap. He went crazy as hard as he could. And he freaked out.

He wasn't using technique. And it was all wrestling from his previous career, except for none of that happened. Yeah. He did start with slap, though. I did. Yeah. Yeah. I attempted to sweep him twice today.

His back hit the ground zero times. Yeah, he almost got me. It was good. The little, the purple belt that I rolled with. Sierra. Yeah. She threw up an arm bar that was like, whoo, like that was cool. When I heard her say to you, hey, I want to start standing.

I was like, Sierra, come here for a minute. I need to tell you a few things. I'm not throwing somebody on their head. I know how to I know how to gave Of course She's awesome Yeah she's a little

Yeah you know the belt thing Everybody I don't know I'm too new to this To speak at a Deeply educated level about it I think people make far too much Out of far too much

Yeah And almost everything The really the way to look at Is it's not Yeah it's not just the belt It's not just the time You look at I mean there's some

What's this Rodriguez The big kid that was training with the Donna Her Desk Quad guys Nikki Rod, right? Maybe. It was like a blue belt just smashing people because he's a fucking

freak of an athlete. One, like technique and time training is not the only piece of the pie. Yeah. If Jiu-Jitsu is the first physical activity you've ever found versus somebody who has come into it with a diverse athletic background, sorry, you're having different learning curves.

Yeah. 100%. If you've done sports that, require balance, agility, coordination. Like, I'm sorry, you're going to pick it up faster. You know, all that stuff matters. You know, I mean, if you had submitted me, I would fucking remember it for the rest of my fucking life. Only because I would remind you on the internet.

Because I also, like, maybe that's the part of the ego, is that, like, I remember at least the last thing that everybody is. sub me out with like the guys that have sub me out like a bunch of times you know like i'll remember the last thing the guys have sub me out like two or three times i remember every one of them but it's it's not like i'm mad about it it's more of a catalog of hey this is what they're dangerous with like there's a there's a dude that i've trained with for years uh 405's andy main like i don't want that fucker on my back like and i remember he's bow and arrow choked me and he's rear naked choked me

and he also did catch me in a triangle one time. It's like I remember every time that he's fucking caught me not because it's like that motherfucker but it's like okay. It's a data point. Yeah, here's this lanky dude with a good grip.

I don't want his forearm underneath my throat. Like he's got long legs. All right, be mindful of that shit. Like you're building an encyclopedia. That's what it's about. So, you know, remembering those failures

is a good thing. It's a good thing, right? Because it shows either a strength in your training partner or it shows a weakness in your training. And we want to address our weaknesses and we want to acknowledge our training partner's strengths so that we can either, you know, avoid them or exploit them. We would have had a totally different role too

if we had gone Nogi. Yeah. Because I'm able to slowly down with doing. You got a fucking grip and a half, yeah. I have a normal grip. Yours could be subpar. It's hard to see. Mine's just normal.

But there's like a massive collar there and there's like fabric and friction. Yeah, no ghee would have been. It's, you know, that's one of the things like that I've always noticed with like, like a, today was the first time I put a guy on in a while. But I've trained in it plenty of times. But as a little guy, like I'm big enough that I can, I can deadlift more than anybody can. curl or hammy curl. Yeah. So like isolating an arm or a leg,

I can take it home with me if I want to, you know? Like, you have to use technique to get out. And I found that, like, certain moves are easier on big guys and harder on little guys. Like arm bars, I find that... Yeah, that makes sense. I find that big arms straight and easier than little arms. Because little guys are able to roll that angle.

And, like, going with big guys in no ghee for me has always been easier because I can find more. openings and then the little guys since then I have to try to play the big guy game it kind of it would always like kind of mess with me and they could find my openings that I didn't have to worry about with the big guys but then when you throw the gie on now the big guys become a real pain in the ass because they can hold onto it yeah we're like the little guys it's like this is so much it's like cheating I find little guys are hard for me because they can ball up and get so

compact yeah they just it's like god damn so I just try to get to their back, and choke the life out of them. There you go. So we'd do it. That's all. That's what Friday is about. We do Q&A.

We learn more about Jim Miller, the oldest fighter in the UFC. Oldest fighter. I'm ancient. Yeah. You ready for some food, which you haven't actually eaten all day except for breakfast?

Yeah. How's your belly? It's good. It's good now. Yeah. I had a little bit saying, I got to figure out what's going on with the acid reflux,

but that's it. These people need to hear that part. Thank you.