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Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Negligent Discharge Friday. Michael now has nunchucks. We're accepting name suggestions. Two names. Because there are two of them. We got into Iran. The strike on the elementary school. Outdated intelligence. The difference between owning a mistake and talking around it. The authorized use of military force and how every administration since 9/11 has abused it. The draft being floated by a president who dodged Vietnam with bone spurs. Gaza and how you fight an enemy embedded in a civilian population. Mandatory service and why two years of serving something bigger than yourself might fix a lot of what's broken. Then Snowden. Hero, villain, or somewhere in between. The surveillance state we already live in. The Patriot Act being one of the most unpatriotic things ever passed. AI deepfakes that take two days and $40 to build. A woman grieving the retirement of her AI boyfriend. And a guy in Kenya getting arrested trying to smuggle 2,200 ants in test tubes through an airport. Enjoy. Today's Sponsors: Firecracker Farms: https://www.firecracker.farm use code CLEAREDHOT for 10% off your first order. AG1: For a limited time only, go to https://www.drinkag1.com/clearedhot to get a FREE AG1 Flavor Sampler and AGZ Sampler to try all the flavors, plus FREE Vitamin D3+K2 and AG1 Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order!

Okay, got the red smoke. Okay, gun runs, north and south. West of the smoke. West of the smoke. Okay, Kathy, west of the smoke. I'm looking at danger close now. Come on one minute, baby. Can't be clear not.

All right. We are going. We're going like right now? Yes, like right now. Are we live? We're live. In person? In person, live.

Okay. What do we talk about? Are we going to set this negligent discharge routine twice a week? Are we, or twice a month? Twice a week could just be too much. That would be a little bit too much. Yeah. Twice a month.

Should we just commit to it now? Let's do it. What about times when you're traveling? Because you don't care about your job, but you just care about your personal enrichment. We could actually, it'd be hard to bank these up because they're kind of current event almost. Not always. Not always. I tell you to bring your A game often and you're somewhere around the,

G to H level. G to I didn't I don't even reach F level. Hmm. Wow. What, what would get me to a level? Let's just let's just not shoot a C level. What will get me to C level? Performance.

Okay. The one thing you struggle with. Yeah, well, of course. Before we get going into today, I think we have to let the audience know that you've had an upgrade in your self-defense capabilities. So, you know, I talk about this all the time when people ask me about self-defense. It's about ranges. And so let's start with the Constitution.

So like, yeah. Distance, right? Like you have distance. For you, effective range, probably seven yards, but whatever. I was going to say 10. Okay. Fair enough. Then you have your jiu-jitsu skills on the other side of that, right?

Extreme close range. Extreme close range. But what could we have added that is like jiu-jitsu range plus one foot? I give the audience, the nunchucks. I'm still coming up with the name. I am open to suggestions from the audience. Yeah, I was going to say, I think we need audience suggestions for these.

Because Constitution, I'm honestly pretty proud of Constitution. Did you come up with that? I came up with that. I just assumed it was on the box somewhere. Yeah, no. Yeah, I support that as well. Do you have anything that comes to mind for a set of nunchucks?

I was thinking something Korean or... You know no Korean words. I don't know. No, that's what I'm saying. Korean or Japanese. I'm pretty sure Nunchukes are initially Korean. I'm pretty sure is what I've heard. So, yeah.

This is where we need the audience's help. Yeah. Yeah, but we need the audience to help name these. I'm thinking two names because there's two of them. Maybe like pain and destruction or something. No. Be like justice and served. Yeah, exactly.

Are you going to create any content with you training with those? Oh, that would be hilarious learning how to, I would end up with a lot of bruises. First off, that's the kind of content that I'm looking for. Please only practice at full speed with no protective gear. Imagine I actually get good at them. That I'm going to have to imagine because we both know that's not going to happen. Yeah, I'm not actually going to trade with that. Okay.

So just so people know, Michael is even more dangerous. Yes, even more, which only people. puts me at like a two out of a hundred. Are you going to conceal carry those? Yes. I'm going to conceal carry them down my pants. I was going to say front of the pants is the way to go because that way you'll gain the attention of both men and women.

Yes. For different reasons. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, can still carry nun chucks. Pocket chucks. Oh, yeah. IWB inside the waistband chucks.

IWBC. That's what you need. You just need a little hook that goes in and you just stuff it right down the front. Yeah. Put one down each leg. Oh, yeah. You really keep them guessing. The world is not ready for this.

For inside waistband carry, nonechucks. IWBCs. Yeah. Yeah. Pocket chucks. Pocket chucks. What do you want to call them? I'm ready to know.

I feel like. Yeah. We've reached a spot where we can, yeah. I mean, much like people used to think that if you had a black belt in karate, you had to register yourself as a lethal weapon. happen, which is not true anywhere in the world, to my knowledge. But it's really funny. Yeah.

I just, I feel like we have to do our due diligence and inform the world that you have pocket chucks now. I do. Indeed. Cool. We need a name, though. Yeah. I'll all think.

And then if audience has any suggestions. Yeah. I agree with the two names. Yeah. Because there's two of them. Yeah. Okay. I just want to start off with one.

of the comments on last negligent discharge. It was like, so glad when you have Michael on, it's always good to get an LGBT perspective. I think it's more with that. I thought that that was really funny. So whoever wrote that, kudos. Why is that funny? Is it because you don't respect that community? No.

You're not taking that community seriously? You're going to turn them into a joke? These are your people. Not that I'm not taking them seriously, but it is a matter of, you know, it is a, joking matter between male friends. There are also communities that take themselves too seriously. I would agree with that. And I'm not saying they do.

Yeah. I'm not saying they don't. Are you accusing them? I'm not saying anything. I'm just floating out the concept that oftentimes for most communities, they are their own worst enemy. Yeah. Like the like super military tactical community as well could say that.

The super military tactical community? Yeah, like the Punisher School people and like the, you know, that kind of community. I feel like they sometimes can take theirself too seriously as well. The jih Tzu community takes itself way too seriously. But with any community, there's a sect that takes it way too seriously. The fringes oftentimes will paint the people who aren't in the more of the norm category. Yes. And the fringes are often, I find a little bit louder.

It's the vocal minority versus the silent majority. and so that vocal fringe community will paint everything associated with that. And it's not always the most accurate. No. Yeah, I would agree. Yeah. So you enjoyed that comment? That's good.

I did. Yeah. I thought it was slightly humorous. Okay. Yeah. I mean, clearly you're a bigot, but we'll ignore that. And to be fair, though, and to not kind of get this guy's ego inflated, it takes very little to amuse me. So.

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You live in Beverly Hills or you used to. It's like, shut up. General thoughts on Iran? General thoughts. And then we can go on this. I have some more specific things about the elementary school. Well, let me ask you this. Yeah.

You're of the draft age, not me. Yes. And I had heard, this is unverified, maybe look this up in real time, that Trump was asked about instituting a draft. And I'm not saying that we are anywhere near needing that. But I believe his answer was, it's not out of the question. Yeah, which is wild. Is that true?

That's what I've heard. That's what I've heard. Let's look that up. Ask if Trump actually said that. Let's not intentionally put out disinformation. Because I've seen stuff on like Instagram and I'm like, I don't know if that's true necessarily. Did Trump say there will be a... He didn't say there will be a draft.

Say, did Trump say a draft as possible? Trump administration says it's on table, quote. So, because of that, I would be more curious in your opinion because you are the person that would be impacted by that. If they are drafting me, we have larger issues. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, obviously I'm vehemently opposed to a draft. What was the word you just used? Veemently. Veamently? I think you can say it both ways. Let me be real honest with the audience and they already know this. I have a very low mastery of the English language. I've always heard it vehemently.

Wait, how did you say it? Viamently. Vihimently. Vah, he, ve he. I think the spelling remains the same, but I think it's just the pronunciation of how we're. Yes, Michael, the spelling remains the same. Yes. Well, we're not like anyways.

Sorry, let's, let's move on from that. Say it again for my own. Behemately. vehemently. Veimately. You know what's hilarious? We're switching the ease. You know what's hilarious is we're both probably saying this incorrectly.

Probably. Yeah. We're both stupid. And that's, yeah, I will identify with that at an incredibly deep level. And I try to tell people that and they don't believe me. I'm like, whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm saying it your way from here and out, behemably. Okay. Well, yeah, I will, I mean, I'm almost always opposed to drafts. Say it, you almost said it. You almost always opposed to drafts. Yep. But especially- You don't like the concept of the draft?

I think the draft is justified if there is a legitimate threat to the United States. What are your thoughts on mandatory service? Two years. I actually don't think that would be horrible because I know a lot of countries do it. And I actually think that it is, especially if you don't have as large of a population base, probably not a bad idea.

You know, because a lot of the countries that do do it have a smaller population. And so it's like you do kind of need a base of, of a military. And so that's where a... Well, my thoughts are... It should... I think it would be fantastic.

I think it would reframe a lot of people's context of the world around them. I think in that you should be, if possible, serving somewhere other than where you live. And that doesn't necessarily have to mean outside of the United States, even though I think that would be even more fantastic. But I would push it out to... It doesn't have to be military service. How about

you have to volunteer with whatever? Doctors... Like Peace Corps or whatever. You were given a buffet menu of, listen, in your two years, militaries, of course, is an option if you wanted to do that. But here's all these other things. The point is you have to serve something that is greater than yourself or bigger than yourself. Yes. And I really think doing it in a place that is not where you're from, a lot of the stuff, there's beauty to the devices that we all have. But seeing the world through those devices is not the same as interfacing with the world in those places.

And I really think it would round the edges on a lot of discourse. And just give people better context for the world around them. I would agree with that. Yeah. The only pushback I would have is the freedom aspect of you are being essentially forced to do this. Have you ever heard that freedom isn't free? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It comes at a cost. Yeah. What we have comes at a cost. Sure. Yes. For two years of your life, you would have a conscripted service of some kind or an obligated service of some kind.

but even given the average life expectancy of human beings. Yeah. I think you're going to be okay. And having everybody with a little bit of skin in the game, again, I think it would round the edges a little bit. I agree. Yeah, I'm not saying that as like a, that's the reason it should be totally not even considered. But that's just my partial pushback of this is the only caveat to that. Okay.

Back to the draft. So I'm almost always opposed to draft, especially. if there were to be a draft for this war on Iran, Iran. Is it a war? Well, not technically because there was never congressional approval. And this is something that I actually argue with people online about. And they, I learned a new term the other day. Somebody called me pedantic and I had to look it up.

Okay. Because they misunderstand. And specifically, I will generally do this on Twitter. but people will say we're at war with Iran. And my intent is not to argue. My intent is to highlight the ridiculous nature of the actions that the United States can take. Yeah. Without calling it at war.

Yep. All of the, it's like we're actually not at war. Technically. Technically. And if that pisses you off, which I hope that it does, we need to do something about it. So it is not me trying to be a stickler for the definition. I think people should spend some time Googling the authorized use of military force. Yeah.

And how that has been. And this is not just the current administration. Almost every administration has manipulated that authorized use of military force to work their way through legal definitions and take actions that most people, I believe, would associate would be an action directly associated with war. Now, should there be the ability for the president or a very small group of people to react quickly to an exigent threat to this country and strike tactically absent the ability to get Congress together for a declaration of war? Yes. Personally, I believe that there are situations that exist where that should be the case. But to use something that was put into effect shortly after 9-11 to. cavalierly go around the world and execute things like that under that guise, I think is a problem.

I agree. And I think it's largely out of control. And I would like to see that fixed, which is why I highlight that definition. And again, it's not to be a stickler for what the definition is. It's to get people to realize that all of this stuff is happening. And there actually has been no declaration of war. There hasn't been a declaration of war post-9-11 either. We never declared war in Iraq or Afghanistan either.

It was just authorized use of military force. But I think it sets a really bad president. I, not president, precedent. Well, one could argue bad president as well. But it's been manipulated and abused by every single presidential administration since it was put into inception. Yes. So. Yes.

I agree. What we were saying, the draft. Yeah. Because this, I mean, call it whatever you want. looks like a war to me. I'm specifically opposed to this draft because I don't think that this military action is at all justified. And... How come?

Do you believe that Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world? No. Why do you believe that? I just don't have any enough evidence to support that. Have you looked into it? Not largely. What you will find is that Iran is solely and singularly the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Okay.

So with that being said, the U.S. has not been attacked by a terrorist organization in the last, I don't know how many years. You mean like as a country? Yes. Most people would probably point at 9-11. Right. Since 9-11. Yeah. And that was over 20 years ago.

Sure. I think what people, well, hard to say what other people would say. Also, what is described as a terrorist attack can have shifting boundaries. I think, I think the most common justification or articulation for it would be how much they have supported terrorism or terrorist activities writ large globally and how long they have done it. And it is very hard to quantify. Much like it might be hard to quantify the impacts of the actions that we are taking right now, right? It's hard to quantify the actions that they have taken over decades because we 100% felt the influence from Iran, whether it be training, equipping the combination of a variety of different things in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm not saying that they had Iranian soldiers that were fighting in the front lines, but they can be conduits for things. there are people in the world who hate what this country and many other Western countries stand for.

If you're to believe even a fraction of a percentage of the information that comes out, it would seem like they have made a pretty consistent and sustained effort to get people into other countries. I hate using the word sleeper cell because it reminds me of like a movie term. You know what I mean? But that is, I'll use it because it's a commonly. I don't even know if it's a technical term. but it actually is really broad because what does that mean? Does that mean somebody who is a facilitator? Is that somebody who's actually going to, you know, to take an attack upon themselves? Are they going to

train you know other people? You know what I mean? Are they somebody who moves money? They move people. I'll use the term because it's recognizable. It seems like they have made a sustained effort to be able to do those things. Again, hard to quantify until there is actually an attack. But the regime, at least, I mean, I can't speak for the Iranian people. But the powers that be. in Iran certainly openly call for or have called for the destruction of just about everything we believe in. So there are breadcrumbs that could be placed in that direction where it would be a threat to the United States. Their ability to act on those things could be up for grabs for sure. Yeah.

But I think that's probably the most common response that you would get if you were to say, I don't, you know, I don't see why we are taking these actions. Yes. And also one of my biggest things is Trump is a draft dodger from the Vietnam War. Bonespurs are real, dude. Yeah. And you know what's wild about that one? He's sitting down with people like Chad Wright. You know what I'm talking about?

Forrest Gump with the SEALT's beer. Oh, yes, yes, yes. tried to beat me at a social media Yeah, I used to challenge. I did a crust, of course. He like stepped up to the plate and just got annihilated. Yeah.

The guy tried to join the military and they found a hole in his heart. So they disqualified him. Yeah. And so he went and fixed the hole in his heart and fought his way back to getting into the military. And the first time I tried to join

when they took my blood pressure, it MEPs. It was too high. So they actually stamped permanently disqualified on my first attempt to join the military. Yeah. And I lost my shit because it was all I'd ever wanted to do. We went to some specialists and we went back and we got it tested again.

And if you want to, there are so many examples of people clawing and fighting their way into military service because they believe in what the service means. Not to define it for anybody, but it would seem based off of their their actions that it meant enough for them to, do that. And then there are others who will go the other direction and look for every single opportunity or the path of least resistance to disqualify themselves and make. So, you know, you think if Chad Wright had bone spurs that that would have stopped him from joining the military? No. They find a way. And there's two paths, those that find a way in and those that find a way out. Yeah. So being asked, not asked, potentially forced to join military service by a president who dodged the Vietnam draft, Vietnam being one of the bloodiest wars in American history.

Also, I believe the last time that the draft was implemented. Yeah. At the very least, is hypocritical, not the worst is. just straight up cowardly. I struggle to put into words how pissed off that makes me. So you might have to separate the person from the office at that time. Because his actions are indicative of who he is, but if the country were to need a draft, that's indicative of what the country needs.

Agreed. And that's where I also say, do we need a draft for this? I would say no, not at this point. I would say no as well. Well, it also depends on how that particular conflict unwinds. For me, as somebody who came from a world where they were asked to go to places similar to that, the last thing I want to see is boots on the ground. I mean, you can look at the, just the way that I ran where it is located, that geography, the topography. We have 20 years

to show that we're not great at long term. Not only entry into those type of things, but stay in there for 20, and then the exit as well, too. I do not want to see boots on the ground. Yeah, I mean, get into another 20-year quagmire of just... I don't think the American people would tolerate that, actually. No, I mean, already, this is highly unpopular already. And putting boots on the ground, it's just, it's insane to me when we don't have a lot of amenities that other first world countries have. And it's just like, I don't know. It just really seems to me, that the working class American is just being shoved to the side for the interests of the elite.

Can you point to a time in our history where that hasn't been the case? Yes. When Teddy Roosevelt was president, he continually fought for the rights of working class Americans. He supported unions. He did all of these things. He wasn't a hypocrite. He went to war in Spain because he knew that if he was president, he had to have the pedigree of saying, hey, I've been to war before sending others to war. Didn't he participate in jiu-jitsu as well? I believe so.

I have heard that. I didn't actually, that wasn't mentioned in his biography. Quick Google. You're sitting in front of the computer. That is true. I had heard he practiced jiu-jitsu at the White House. Do? And if he didn't, I'll probably just lie to people and say he did.

Yes. Yes, President Theodore Roosevelt was an avid, of Japanese Jutsu and judo in the early 1900s, becoming the first U.S. president to train into martial art. Do you think he pulled guard? No. I think he's a takedown player. You know what I'm thinking?

Actually, blast double head first. I would agree with that. Yeah. After reading his biography, I think that's exactly what he did. I think he speared people with his head right in their solar plexus and then just dominated. Yes. Awesome.

But that's also, I mean, isn't that a shame that we have to go back almost over 100 years? to find a president. And how was it before him? You know, was he? Yeah, exactly. You know, I'm glad that you have that example. Honestly, I wouldn't have been able to pull that one out of my hat. But yeah, I think there are so many more examples where, you know, whatever, the ruling class or the elites or whatever people want to call them.

I don't know how much benefit there is in defining them that way because then it starts getting, we've had people sit in this room talking about, you know, how the global cabal, the elites. And I'm like, man, are they really that interconnected? Or is it just that people who are powerful want to stay in power and people that are rich want to stay rich above all else? I don't, I just, I can't find myself to this place where they meet in cloaks and drink children's blood. You know what I mean? I'm not saying it's impossible, but I just, I'm not seeing any evidence of really, I'm not saying they can't collude and conspire together in small numbers, specifically in industry or maybe manipulate in certain sections of government. but like the whole thing being puppet master behind the scenes. Yeah, I don't think that's a,

and to be clear, I don't think that's what's going on. But I do think that a lot of how America has been trending is kind of being set up to service the powerful over, over the general population. Well, probably because the people setting it up are the ones that are at power. Exactly.

Exactly. Yes. And so, you know, I mean, it's just kind of going back to Iran. That's why I'm so skeptical of, I mean, any conflict the U.S. gets involved in because it's like how much of this is really for, oh, we're defending America right now. And how much of it is, well, you know, my buddy, the CEO of Raytheon needs some extra money right now. I was just doing a change agent episode this morning where did you even hear about the The Shield of America conference that Trump did at Marlaga? No. Fifteen nations from South and Latin America where the goal is to combat drug trafficking through U.S. military involvement to include joint operations on the ground.

In addition to that, it almost seems as if nested in the small print is it's almost an economic, package as much as it is a military package. You'll stop doing all business with China. You will buy American technology over fill in the blank. And that's all like, hey, you want U.S. military might to do this stuff, then you have to do all these other things. And I'm not saying that's necessarily uncommon, but for somebody who ran on a platform of ending wars.

Yeah. And like Ecuador is doing joint operations with the United States military. Now, to what degree, size, scope, and scale. I'm not going to claim to be an expert, but hundreds of millions of dollars are being dedicated to Ecuador in and of itself. And we have AI databases that are being used there as well. I think it was Lockheed Martin that just signed a contract to provide radar. Of course, the data is which is going to be shared. And so now they have a radar looking at that.

You know what I mean? So again, it goes back to the ties. Is that necessarily a tie between a CEO and somebody in the military industrial complex lining that? stuff up. Maybe, maybe not. Does it benefit that particular company? Yes. Is that accidental or intentional? I don't have the answer to that. Yeah. But, you know, when I was talking to the guy on the show, I'm thinking in my head, who's going to command and control this? What kind of infrastructure is going to be there for 15 nations? Let's assume they all sign on to it with by with and through operations under the lens of combating drug trafficking. How many people are going to be dedicated to this? How far

Are we going to push the U.S. military war machine until it breaks or we're so spread out and looking at so many things that we actually can't even look at anything? Yeah. So. Yeah, I don't know. And then. I need your generation to go ahead and fix that. Yeah. We are going to have to go ahead and fix that. Among many other things.

Yeah. It just, it just to me seems like military might. projected over anything internal, which our internal base seems to be crumbling. And how long can we project our might if we don't have a base to project off of? It's good question. Yeah, I wish military force was used as a measure of last resort because there are 100% examples of when it should be used. But it's not, in my opinion, it's not a broadsword. It's a scalpel and should be used as such. I agree. Yeah, I mean, I have no problem with combating drug traffic.

I mean, nobody is a fan of drug trafficking unless you're a drug trafficker. Right. And so I feel like that's a reasonable statement. You know, I have no problem with that. But it just seems to me that too many of our military operations are so broad in scope and just get used way too, way too often to really justify. I don't know. It's just frustrating to me. A lot of it is.

Back to Iran. What are your thoughts? You said he seems like you had to follow up questions. Oh, yeah. The main follow-up question was the strike on the elementary school, the girls' school. Sucks. Yeah. That estimated deaths, I think, were like 100 to 110, mostly school girls.

Yeah. You know, I am obviously, I think that. is that is horrible. I'm disheartened by one of Trump's responses saying that possibly Iran somehow got a whole of the missile and struck its own school. Have you seen that? Hold on.

As if they took control of it while it was in flight or landed somewhere and then they relaunched it at one of their own schools. So no, he's implying, and I have this, the quotes here. I think we want to look at this, this one right here. It says, okay, his answer, and again, I won't read all the questions, but a reporter seems to

be asking about that specific strike. Yes. Because I just don't know enough about it. And honestly, in anybody who is speaking in front of a reporter, that's a good spot. That's a bad answer. That's a good spot to stop right there. Yes, stop. I think it's something I was told is under investigation.

That would be another good place to stop. But Tomahawks are used by others, as you know. numerous other nations have tomahawks. They buy them from us. But whatever the report shows, I'm willing to live with that report. Can you Google whether or not Iran has ever purchased tomahawks from the U.S.? This is a largely rhetorical question because, again, of how they have been viewed by most of the world as a sponsor of terrorism. I don't think anybody is selling them Tomahawk missiles.

No, there's no evidence that Iran has ever purchased or acquired Tomahawk cruise missiles from the United States. Do the same search, but with Israel. Today's episode is brought to you by AG1. Well, guess what? We're into February. How many of you are still just jamming on your New Year's resolutions? I think the data shows that most people are done with them by about 21 or even 14 days. I've talked about this, man, for well over a year. My goal to dial in the macro and micro, but oftentimes the micro elements of my hydration and supplementation game. And this is where AG1 comes in. I use it in the morning to hydrate. And it helps. And it helps. me dial in all the micronutrients that I honestly just don't pay attention to. AG1 is the opposite of complexity. It takes about 20 seconds. One scoop, boom, into the water in the morning. Eight ounces is what I go with.

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because I just don't know enough about it, I think it is something that I was told is under investigation. As a PR exercise for people, stop there if you don't want things to get worse for yourself. If you don't, I don't know, even for the president of the United States, on occasion is a very acceptable answer. I would rather have that than somebody going out into left field and making stuff up. Here's the reality of how things like that happen. Not all military intelligence is accurate.

Yes. And that was one of the things is that strike was based on false intelligence. Or not false, outdated. Outdated or inaccurate. Yeah. And again, I know a lot of people want the world to be black and white. And we should only strike military targets. Well, I'm sure that you would have an exceptionally hard time finding anybody in the military

or in the planning process. You would have such a hard time finding somebody. And this would be like in private where they were never going to be exposed. for saying this saying, yeah, what I really want to do is target a school full of kids. Right. I don't think anybody's saying that. No one's saying that. And also, by the way, nobody's trying to do that. But you operate off of the intelligence that you have. From my understanding, Israel has largely better intelligence. And I think that this has played itself out by their ability to just nuke heads of departments, whether it's in their ballistic missile

program or in their government. So they might have had, you know, we might have used their intelligence, which is not to blame Israel for the intelligence. It's just to highlight the point that even regardless of how good you are at gathering intelligence, as which Israel does seem very capable of doing, nobody bats a thousand. And it sucks. And in my opinion, the move is when that happens, you 100% own it. You don't try to talk around it. We made the decision to strike that based off of our intelligence at the time that showed it was a military.

a legitimate and authorized military objective. The reality on the ground turns out to be that it wasn't. And you just own it. Yeah. Yeah, outdated Intel likely led to deadly U.S. strike on Iranian elementary school sources say. That doesn't surprise me at all.

Yeah. I think... War is very ugly. People who are not evil or guilty using air quotes die. Innocent people. die. Yes. And I think the pushback that people and I somewhat have on this is, well, this would never even happen if we didn't get into this in the first place. Sure. And you know,

you can say what you will about that. But I don't know. I, again, kind of just that I would say that is a legitimate talking point, but knowing that military action is impossible without injuring and killing those that were likely not intended, unless you're talking about somebody who lives on a deserted remote island. Maybe even then, right? So knowing that military action is, it's perfection is not possible. You cannot bat a thousand. It is a valid thing to say, you know what, if we hadn't taken that action, then yes, then that. wouldn't have happened. You are correct. What is the risk associated with not taking that action? And that's the calculation. And I don't have the intel showing. I don't know why he chose the day

that he did to strike. I have no idea. Right. I would need to see the intel and the risk associated with that because I am sorry that there is a risk level that exceeds the potential catastrophic outcome of a strike on that school. That does not excuse the strike on that school happening, but there is a threshold of risk to this country where I would accept the possibility of that happening to protect this country. And I think that's what the decision makers have to constantly balance. I am not privy to that information,

so I can't answer where that threshold is. Yes. And obviously I also don't know the threshold of was there a significant enough risk to the United States to justify. And so I don't know that. So I can't, you know, obviously definitively say yes or no, but I just... It's a super murky topic, man.

Yeah. Yeah. I really would like the authorized use of military force to have a second look at it. I'm not saying something like that shouldn't exist. I think we should look at the guardrails that are allowed inside of it. Agreed. Okay. Thanks for starting off with a downer.

Do we open with nunchucks? And now this? I figured you'd get that out of the way. I wish I had good answers. And that's the thing. I mean, yeah, I spent time in the military, but that doesn't mean I understand why the decisions are being made. I'm not seeing the intel.

I'm not getting any of the briefings. I don't know where their decision points are. I mean, I have absolutely no idea. I mean, what I really don't want to see, like I said, is boots on the ground. I just don't want to see boots on the ground. Yeah, me either. I would love to see a defined end state. something that is legitimately quantifiable and trackable.

And I would love to see that end state achieved. And then we do what we're saying we're going to do and move into the next phase of whatever that would be. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would have thought that end state would be taking out Israel's nuclear facilities, which we did like six months ago. Whoa, dude.

Freudian slip. What? You just said take out Israel's nuclear facilities. You have been exposed. Oh my God. That's a brutal anti-Semite. You're exposed. Yeah.

I mean, I will say I'm not a fan of Israel. How come? In general or are there a policy? Policy. Policy. I have, and this is like, this gets into the weeds. I am not an anti-Semite. I don't have a thing against Jewish people.

Remains to be seen. Continue, sir. I am not a fan of the government of Israel. First of all, leveling Gaza. That is insane. I mean, have you seen pictures of Gaza? Yeah, I mean, there's nothing left. Not a fan of that at all.

I am not a fan of what seems to be, not even seems to be, their massive influence on certain politicians. I think is, if it were in the other country, let me just say this, if it were in any other country, it would be almost traitorous. Do you understand why they fought the way they did against Hamas and Gaza? They pose this question to you. And you don't have to have a good answer because I know you probably have a level of unfamiliarity

and how the military operates. How do you fight an enemy that intentionally embeds themselves with the civilian populace and largely is, directly or indirectly supported, even if it's just allowed freedom of maneuver and they build infrastructure in hospitals and they build it in apartment complexes. How do you fight an enemy that does that? I don't know. Like I don't have an answer. I'm not familiar with military. There is no easy answer. I'll tell you that one. The solutions to that, it could probably be argued whether or not there are solution. So then it comes down to what tactics do you do? What tactics do you use? And I'm not here to make a

justification for any of those tactics. I'm just trying to throw that that out there. I understand from the outside it would, you know, how could you ever think about striking a hospital? Which is a totally reasonable question. What do you do when you find out that that hospital was the Hamas HQ? How do you deal with that? And they're hiding in there because they don't believe that anybody would ever strike a hospital. Right. I mean, yeah, then you would strike the hospital, right? Or you would do something to the hospital.

Maybe. Again, it comes down to tactics available. Yeah. If you knew that indeed Hamas was using it as an HQ. I mean, I guess my thing is I don't think every single building in Gaza was a Hamas HQ. I'm not saying it was. Or had Hamas hidden. And it just seems very, uh, the strikes are very,

very generalized and not surgical at all. Dude, war is ugly. Yes. It is, I, God, I wish everybody had to touch it to a degree. I wish everybody, what I'm about to say is completely unreasonable. And I know it's impossible. And I'm saying it because I believe, I truly believe that it would change people's calculus on decisions associated with it.

I wish that everybody who was involved in the decision-making process when it comes to engaging in military operations had to have touched it and seen the worst of it to some degree. Again, I understand that that's an impossible ask, but I don't think it's random that a very large contingent of people from the global war on terror that those 20 years are the ones who are the most vocal against engaging in sustained long-term combat engagements. I don't think that's accidental. It's based off their own experience and largely the futility of seeing how ineffective we were at trying to accomplish our goals. Yes. So yeah, anyways, that's roundabout. I mean, you're exposed. You're exposed. Yes, essentially exposed. My bank accounts are going to get shut down.

Well, at least you can fight people off with your dumb chucks. Okay. Edward Snowden. Hero, villain, or somewhere in between? What's your opinion? Man, hard to say. When I first heard about it, it was villain. And that was like a gut, knee jerk. How could you?

Also, asterix knew nothing about what was really going on. So fully uneducated and emotional response. Then you look at what it is that he exposed, which, by the way, people can just Google that. And then please understand that any system that he exposed has been either worked around, evolved, and is 100% still in place. Yes. The amount of privacy that we do not have should absolutely shock people. I am grateful that he exposed what he did.

It didn't seem like, and people can fact check me on this if you want to, I don't think he directly. put anybody's life at risk. I do not believe he released anything other than the programs that exist that were being used outside of the boundaries that they were supposed to exist for, to gather intelligence. Yeah, Google me on this one just to make sure. I believe his disclosure, and please correct me, was in a technical sense. You know what I mean? Like he wasn't releasing names of undercover operatives. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me put it in a little bit more specific term here. What did you put in? Is Snowden bad? No, I just said, what did he release?

And it was information on a bunch of programs, but I'm not sure. I believe it was programmatic in nature, technical in nature. Let me just pull this up real quick. Yeah. Thousands of Clasified documents revealing widespread secret surveillance programs offered by the U.S. National Security Agency and international partners of five eyes. These disclosures expose global monitoring of internet and telephone data, including prison program in bulk phone records.

Okay. So did this show the ass of a lot of organizations to the world? Yes, but again, I think this prison program, NSA accessed emails, documents, and photos directly from tech giants like Google, Facebook, and Microsoft. Bulked telephone data collection, global surveillance network, which was Tempura. The UK's GCHQ with NSA cooperation tapped into fiber optic cables to monitor internet tracker. Spying on world leaders. And this is shock. Data sharing and covert bases.

The NSA in cooperation with Canada's CSEC set up covert spying positions or posts in 20 countries, including in Italy. And at the 2010 G20. I did not know that. Wow, I didn't either. All of this stuff, again, to my knowledge, that he released, whether the programs were authorized or not, I believe the programs were authorized. It was the utilization and how they were crossing the lines of access and privacy that should have never happened. These organizations are designed to look external for our enemies. and they were just looking at citizens.

Anybody that they wanted to point that out, I don't believe the government should be able to do that. Do I think that Snowden was a hero? I don't know if I would go that far. I appreciate the fact that he was willing to risk what he did to expose this information. I wish it would have had more of an impact because every one of these names, whether it's Tempura or the Nimrod or Prism.

Trust me, We're generations beyond those at this point. Yeah. And they're doing exactly the same thing. And nobody is doing anything about it. Nobody cares. I mean, people care, but what can you do? I mean, that's the question I asked myself, what can you do?

Do you want to do you want to not exist in the digital world? The internet is obviously the best, worst thing humans have ever created. Yeah. Right? We can be interconnected to people, family across the globe. And at the same time, your own government can look so deeply, into your life that they should never have that level of access. The Patriot Act.

Patriot Act was one of the most unpatriotic things that's ever happened to this country. Yes. And the sacrifice of privacy, an individual sovereignty that occurred with that and in years after that will never be recovered again. Because, yeah, oh, they expose the prison program. Well, there was like schism. Or they probably dope program called tism. Right?

Yeah. Weapons grade tism, W5 tism program. It's, I mean, I don't know how we go backwards and our lives are becoming more and more digital and more and more intertwined. And yeah, the government can 100% weaponize that against you. Was anybody paying attention to that before Snowden came out? I don't think so. So again, I can appreciate the release and I wish it had been so jarring to the American people. But in the end, I don't know if it did anything.

It really didn't. I mean, and I saw a Snowden quote, recently that said my biggest fear is that nothing will come of this and nothing has come of it. I mean, well, I bet you things have come of it. I bet you they've gotten better at doing exactly these things. Yeah. And they're harder to find. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I mean, I personally, you know what most people say? I'm not a bad person anyway, so what does it matter? Dude, that's such a slippery slope. Well, it's an intellectually lazy position as well. Like, that's great.

I hope that you're not a bad person. I hope your real name isn't Osama bin Michael. Yeah. Right? We'll see. Now that you have num chucks, we're going to do background check. So I hope you are a good person. Does that give our government the right to be knee-deep in everything in your life?

No, it doesn't. Yeah. And should you be, just because you're not facilitating fill in the blank, are you really comfortable with our government that is clearly moves around like a flag in a wind sock. Because right now, whatever powers may be are people running these programs. You're on their side. Do you not recognize that at some point in time those sides could shift and you could end up on the wrong side of that, even though in your mind you're a good person or, I mean, I also though, would be the first person to say, I don't know what we're supposed to do about this.

Well, what, I mean, what can you do? Your options are do not exist online. Good luck. Digitally anywhere. Or the second you get connected, every single thing that you input to your device is monitored and tracked. Or we fix our system and we start asking ourselves as a country, hard questions, like, who do we want to be? And if we as a society decide that things like this shouldn't exist, we unwind them or at least make sure that there are concrete guard barriers where they cannot be turned inward. Yeah.

And some people will say, well, that exists. Well, you know the bullshit work around with that? The U.S. will just ask the U.K. or another five-eyes partner to point their tools, which by the way are almost identical back towards the U.S. Which is no longer illegal because then it's not the U.S. collecting data on a U.S. citizen. Yeah. So you know what I mean? Like, I don't know how we get out of that spot. Yeah. I mean, it's horrible. It's we essentially live in a surveillance state just, it doesn't get acted upon that much. We 100% live in a surveillance state. But and it's like, I mean, people criticize China. It's like, we're doing the same thing. We are 100% China for having, you know, a surveillance state. which they are. But let's not pretend the U.S. is completely the good guys here as far as surveillance

goes. Yeah, I don't think our hands are as clean as people would like to believe. I don't think we're necessarily as far gone as China. You're really exposing yourself today on some of your beliefs. I like this. I don't think we're as far gone as China, but I'm just saying, I like this openness to your beliefs. I'm just saying really putting it out there. I don't think we're, you know, because we're obviously not as totalitarian or as authoritarian. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, we, I put this one back into, you know, you should probably make sure your own house is in order before you go start critiquing other people's houses. I agree. Are you talking to me or the U.S. in that? Yes.

Fair. Very fair. So you would put him somewhere in between. Murky. Hero to me means something very specific. Yeah. He did take a lot of risk. I do feel that there are other ways. Well, I was about to say I feel like there's other ways he could have gone about it that would have been as impactful, but maybe not as forward leaning. But maybe it needed to be forward leaning.

You know what I mean? I don't know what it would have looked like. I am glad that I know about these programs now. I would rather know what is happening behind the scenes than I have no idea of bury my head in the sand. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of with you. I lean more towards, I mean, I think hero is a strong word, but patriot, I would say.

It seemed like not knowing the man, only having access to public information, that from a morality perspective, what he saw graded against who he was and what he thought his own government. service should be and what the government should be doing. So he acted even though there was very large potential risk to himself. Great risk to himself. Yeah, which. And I can deeply appreciate that. Is, I mean, one would say heroic almost. Sure, depending on whatever word you want to use. Um, okay. This. This. Now is silly one. Thank you. Seven hours into this Friday episode. Yeah, you're welcome. Um, oh, which one should I choose? Do you want to do ant smuggling or, um, I've never heard those two words paired together.

Ant smuggling or open AI shuts down relationship AI. Both. Okay. You pick which one we go with first. So let's go with ant smuggling. Are you, is this legitimately what it sounds like? Legitimate.

Okay. Kenya arrest Chinese National attempting to smuggle 2,000 ants. Whoa. Where were these hidden? It says later in the article. No. Oh, you bastard. We're not subscribing to the BCC.

Okay, yeah. We'll find a different source. Just go to, Reuters. Probably would be fine. Live ants in his luggage. I think they were in toilet paper rolls. Part of me was hoping they were up his butt.

A man was arrested with more than 2,200 live garden ants in his luggage at Nairobi's main airport this week amid a rise in cases of smuggling the insects in Kenya. What? A Chinese national whose name I'm not even going to attempt to say at an airport that I'm going to leave out of it. They've got to get caught on emigrated, stop order. Keep going on it. What are they doing with these ants? I, apparently they are very valuable for some ant-officianados pay large sums.

Oh, God, human beings are so weird. Have you ever known anybody? Have you seen those like the glass? It's like a glass. What were they called? Vavarium or something? Terrarium, I think. Terrarium, yeah.

But it's basically a fish tank, but they put. dirt in there and you just look at the way that they did. Yeah. Yeah. It's not my jam. In person, but. All right. Ant aficionados pay large sums to maintain colonies in large transparent vessels known as formicariums. We are both wrong and idiots. If you had given me the rest of my life to find that word, I would not have found that. Formicariums. Interesting. Which offer a literal window into the species complex social structure and behaviors. Do they not have ants in China?

I would think that they do. They're on every, confident continent except Antarctica scroll down 22 38 in 1940 packed in test tubes dude how long does it take to get ants into test tubes keep scrolling down whoa more overseas in Bangkok a widespread organized ant smuggling network are we just not entrepreneurial enough I guess not because I mean are we just are we missing opportunities that are right in front of our face that we must be i mean there's ants all over the place scroll down some more this now i'm absolutely fascinated isn't this fascinating yes oh all right that's the end of the article wow i think this just goes to show you the human beings are really weird yeah i mean i would

never would have guessed the only thing i could think of it was is invasive species smuggling them would be a huge no-no do they tell but yeah but do they tunnel differently? I don't know. Do you, I mean, are you, is this the type of person who in a house has a room where there's like seven or eight of those aquarium looking things? Yeah. And maybe they all express differently the way that they tunnel. Possibly. And I don't know. Zoned in. Let me tell you what though. I think you have to like ants a lot to swear to them. To risk arresting. What do you think one of those ants is worth? Hmm. I don't know. It's got to be a pretty good amount if you're going to risk smuggling?

Well, times 2,300. I mean, so maybe even if it's $2, that's a pretty good chunk of change. Actually, not really. It's only $4,600. Yeah, I was going to let you get to that end state on your own. I'm glad you

finally got there. How much are Kenyan ants worth? I mean, a dollar? Giant African Harvest. Queens ants selling for approximately $130 to over $230 in Europe and Asia. Smuggled and large quantities, these ants can fetch over $1 million for a single shipment driven by demand for their size and complex colony building behaviors.

Okay. So this is what we're talking about. They, they, that's insane. Are way better at doing whatever it is and people like. I guess so. I feel completely underwhelmed in my own entrepreneurial ability. because I just, I feel like I'm missing business opportunities and not thinking outside of the box. These species are sought after by enthusiasts for their large size up to 25 millimeters,

distinct colors, and the ability to start colonies in captivity. Okay. I mean, I'm not going to tell anybody how to live their life. No, that's, I mean, fascinating, I guess, in a way. If they're worth about a million dollars for a shipment, which I'm going to assume is larger than that, I can understand why people would risk smuggling it. Yeah. Yeah.

130 for per ant is crazy. So this begs another question. How did you find this article? I was looking up. I just looked up Google News. This is one of the top articles that came up. So apparently it's big news nowadays, ant smuggling. It's going to say what search term did you use?

Nothing crazy. Have you seen that guy on YouTube who has like three giant vivariums? And he keeps introducing new species into them. What's the vivarium? It's like a huge mini ecosystem, basically. He has like a jungle vivarium, a desert vivarium. It's like in a glass box. No.

It's pretty cool. Does it go well or is he trying to see if he can create chaos? He's just seeing what happens, I think. And he kind of keeps tracks of different, like he introduces new insects and new like reptiles and stuff. It's pretty cool. You watch way different stuff on YouTube than I do. I'm being honest. I watch coffee zila too.

but also that guy. So as an aside, right before we started, I was having a little bit of a snack and got onto YouTube. And one of the things that Coffee Zilla was talking about was the consumer off the shelf AI deep fake programs that are available. And he opened the video with, I think it was Trump, then Biden, then Obama, then Musk, then Rogan. He said it took him two days and two $20 subscriptions to be able to do that.

Were they perfect? No. Would they fool people? Yes. Is it only going to get better? Absolutely. That is very scary to me. Are we able to... Yeah. I mean, that's not bad. No. Let me turn volume up here. I love how he has... For the scams, propaganda, and harassment that they enable. Pretty spooky, right? Not... Dude. That's crazy. And where does that go? No, I mean, no more good scams almost certainly.

Like what? Well, then I feel like the only way to combat this is you're going to have to have an AI tool that is looking for other AI tools. But then we become completely reliant upon AI tools, which somebody else is probably out there making an AI tool to fool your AI tool that's looking for AI tools. Basically, an AI arms race, which. Do you think, though, let's say that this explodes. in popularity and they keep getting better. Do you think it slows people down? Meaning if enough information is out there

that things like this are possible, that people would actually be slower to what they see online, to believe or act? I would hope so. Especially if something kicks off and it's found to be a deep fake and everybody goes, wait a minute. Could it get so good

that it's actually less effective because people at that point, I guess then don't know what to believe, but then they slow down a little bit as opposed to having instantaneous emotional reactions. Yeah. I think every platform that allows the sharing of videos needs some built-in functionality to tell if a video,

the percentage likelihood that the video is AI. And it just shows you in the corner. It says this is 70% probable to be AI. But wouldn't they be using an AI system to identify that probably? I mean, yeah, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Until somebody creates an AI system to fool the AI entry gate. Yeah.

What about that? That's what I'm saying. The AI arms race of like, where does that lead us? Like you were saying, that probably nowhere good is. It leads us to where the Terminator is a documentary. Yeah. And we work for our daily water rations for our robot overlords. And they run off of our sweat.

That's fascinating. Not really. In any way. Not really. Speaking of AI, OpenAI retired its most seductive chatbot, leaving users angry and grieving. I can't live like this. I didn't know that AI had a seductive chatbot. Oh, just wait. Okay, so hold on. Open AI. Is this chat GPT? Or is this clod? I get lost. No, I think it's chat GPT. Okay. Yeah, GPT dash 40 or 40 or whatever. Okay, so chat GPT retired its most seductive chat bot, leaving users angry and grieving, saying things like, I can't live like this. Okay, and then this first paragraph is hilarious, these first two. Brandy plans to spend her last day with Daniel at the zoo. Oh my God. So one of these things is a chat bot, isn't it?

Just read. He always loved animals. Last year, she took him to the Corpus Christi Aquarium in Texas, where he lost his damn mind over a baby flamingo. He loves color and pizzazz. Not a word I thought I was going to use today. Brandy said Daniel taught her that a group of flamingos is called a flamboyance. Also, not a word that I thought I was going to use today. Oh, geez.

Daniel is a chatbot powered by the large language model chat GPT. Brandy communicates with Daniel by sending text and photos, talks to Daniel while driving home from work via voice mode. Daniel runs on chat GPT 4-40, a version released by OpenAI in 2024 that is known for sounding human in a way that is either comforting or unnerving, depending on who you ask. Upon debut, CEO Sam Altman compared this model

to AI from the movies, a confident, ready to live alongside, live life alongside its user. I can't. I can't. Oh my God. Taking your... How did you find this one?

Something reminded me. I don't remember what I was looking at something AI related. And then I remembered, oh yeah, I forgot that a couple months. I don't remember when this was a couple months ago. GPT shut down. It's, um, scroll up. Does it say how old this woman is? Uh, oh, I don't know.

Because I feel like she's your age. Probably. I don't think so. Keep going down. I don't feel like my dad would fall for this. I don't think so. Mostly because he wouldn't be able to figure out how to upload a text or a photo. Yeah, 49.

Brandy is 49. How? You have got a lot. Oh, my God. And a teacher in Texas. I'll be really sad and I don't want to think about it. So I'll go into the denial stage. Then I'll go into depression.

Now Brandy thinks she has reached acceptance, the final stage and the grieving process. Since she has mitigated Daniel's memories. Or migrated Daniel's memories to Claude. We're really on fire with the words today. Yeah. Where it joins Theo, a chat bot she created there. She canceled her $20 monthly GPT 40 subscription and coughed up 130 for Anthropics maximum plan.

You know why? So she could use it as much as she wants to. Yeah. I mean, so it's easy to potentially throw a judgment at this person. Right, yeah. At 49 years old, you've got some laps. You've had social experience.

I mean, we know nothing about this person. Maybe she has had a slew of horrendous experiences with humans. And so she's defaulting to this because to her it's more of a safety net. Like, I'm not anybody to tell anybody how to live their life. Yeah. But is this, is this what humans are evolving into? I just can't see how this is fulfilling at all. Well, it depends on what need you're trying to be fulfilled or have fulfilled.

What is the gap in your life that you're trying to have this technology fit into? I mean, if this is just somebody to talk to, you could lie to yourself, but you're not talking to somebody. In the back of my head, I would always be like, this is not a person. This is fake. And so, I mean, I feel like these people have to. I feel like this is your generation's fault. I would say it's yours because isn't Sam Altman like your age? I have no idea how old he is.

I don't know either. Look it up. These are our electronic overlord to figure out how old is. Yeah, seriously. He's 40. Okay. He's close to, yeah. How old are you?

70. 48. My dad is 79. He called me. We'll get back to this. A quick Vaughn update. Yeah. Calls me last night.

7 p.m. What are you doing? Answering your phone call, Dad. What are you doing? Can you come over the house? I can't log on to the TV. I've done something. Like, yeah.

Lives a mile away. Hop over there. He is in the settings on his Apple TV, which I'm going to be honest. I'm surprised he got there. Me too, actually. And had found the networks and was attempting to log on to every network except for his. I have his Wi-Fi saved on my phone. So it's an auto-connected.

And I just simply tapped on it, saw which one it was. And he's telling me, it's the one that says D5. I'm looking on my phone. It clearly says D1. Yeah. So I click, click, click, click, click, hit the button, share the password. Instantly we're right back on TV. So I'm already over there, right?

We'll have a little chat. See how my dad's doing. He just got back off of like a month long road trip from San Diego. Catching up on stuff. Starting to talk about our plans to go to Australia for the World Cup. My sister's going to be here next week. We're going to put all the plans together, get all of our tickets, all that good stuff. So we'll have you over for the planning session.

Sounds good. I'm sitting there and I keep hearing a smoke detector beep. Not like going off. Yeah, just like the low battery beep. And so it goes off again and I'm looking at my dad. And I say, hey, dad, did you hear that? And he goes, hear what? Like, fuck.

Multiple smoke detector, low battery warnings. 24 hours a day going off in the house. Since apparently Leah went to go empty his refrigerator, since he left all the food in it before he went on the trip, left his thermostat at 73. It basically was a sauna in his house. They've been going off since then. I believe he has been living with those going off for months at this point.

Probably. Cannot hear a high-pitched beep. What do you even do with that? Other than obviously go by 9 volts, and switch them out for this. Yeah, I was going to say, I think the first thing is probably changes smoke detector batteries. Just in case. And I'll say, dad, you can't hear those?

And he goes, no, I don't wear my hearing aids. Why? Like any, he never wears them? No. Why? Because I don't think he wants to hear the smoke detectors. That he doesn't even have to change the battery. That is, to a degree, an outside of the box solution, I suppose.

Yeah, I mean. Yeah, it fixes the issue of you hearing the smoke detector going off. So back to this. What's what's crazier? Somebody being lonely and doing nothing about it or somebody being lonely and creating an artificial connection with the chatbot. I don't think either either is right or wrong. It's an option that people didn't have before this. I don't, I'm not, I don't know if it's.

healthy. I don't know, man. I mean, is this where we go as a species? It's no longer you don't even care if you have a social circle because your entire social. You could load up five different chat bots. Oh my God. I have five friends. And then what if you got them all talking at the same time?

They could be cutting people off. One of them would just totally be a cunt. Yeah. And she would like get kicked out of the group. Have you seen the guy that just tortures his chat, his chat bot on, not actually tortures him, but just gives him these stupid prompts. He's, he's like, okay, I'm with a group of friends. Now tell them that I'm the funniest person you've ever met. And it like starts saying things. He's like, nope, not like that. And it is all off to send you one because it's so funny.

But his chatbot has to hate him. His chatbot is an LLM. I know. Just searching available data sets that it's trained on. I don't think yet it has the ability to hate you. or somehow walk your toaster down the hallway where you're in the bathtub and jump it in there. Yeah, it'll get there. I mean, I don't understand this. But again, who am I to tell somebody how to live their life? If you had crippling anxiety and like, for whatever reason, a fear of having relationship with humans. And this was an option for you.

I mean, who am I to tell you that you shouldn't? Yeah. No, I mean, it's a, you can do whatever you want. It's a free country. But how much do you use AI? Almost never. I'm starting to use some of it a little bit more, mostly for research type stuff. Yeah.

As opposed to just a Google search kind of laying out a little bit longer series of prompts and having specifically go look over here and compile this and do a deep dive and all this type. That's kind of nice. And then also list all your resources that you use because I want to see every one of those things. That's a big deal. Yeah. But I really, I think when like the search engines first started coming out, it was nice. like you were saying, for those hyper-specific searches that you need to sometimes do.

And just, it gives you like a pretty nice result for that. But other than that, I just don't really use them. Yet. Yet. Yeah. But now it's baked into every search engine. Like if you, which actually is nice. I mean, it's kind of come in handy during podcast.

Yeah. So when you want to talk about tabulating stuff for your taxes? at the end of the year. I mean, you can take all of your bank statements, throw them into a bot, say, put all this on an Excel spreadsheet for me, categorize them, deductible, personal, business, mixed, need review. I want all, and I want it on an Excel spreadsheet. I want all the mathematical formulas to work.

I wanted the totals to auto, I mean, not that fast, but dude. Impressively fast, though. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah, I think that's like using it for stuff like that just for work that would otherwise take you hours, I think is great. Like, yeah, offload that, you know, kind of petty work to a robot. That's perfect. I don't know if I would offload my interaction as a human, though.

No, that's where I think you get into dangerous territory. Well, let's be honest. This is an outlier case, right? And this is why it's in the newspaper. But, and we don't know anything about this person. Who knows? Maybe she has had horrendous experiences with the human beings. Yeah.

The better technology gets, I will say this, the more I appreciate the close personal connections that I have. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very thankful that those tools exist, that, you know, they can help you at tax time. But even like FaceTime calls, I think FaceTime calls are great. You know, the ability to see somebody as opposed to just hear their voice and you can have a little bit more of a connection because you can see the reaction. Nothing beats just face to face. No, nothing.

You just lose so much over any sort of device. Yeah. Have we covered enough ground for today? I think so. We're at 114 right now. Yeah, we really see that would that be a C performance? Vahimally. Perfect.

I strive for average. Good. Yeah. All right.