Club Random with Bill Maher - Aaron Rodgers | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

Buckle your chin strap for a wild Club Random in honor of the start of the NFL season!  Bill Maher and Aaron Rodgers randomly riff: Bill compares Aaron to Derek Jeter and gives a hilarious new meaning to “MVP”, the night that Kato Kaelin predicted Aaron’s superstardom to Bill, Bill and Aaron do a deep dive on medical autonomy and all things health, including Novak Djokovich, Kyrie Irving, and Bill’s take on Justin Turner, why Bill Cosby got a vet license, how Aaron prepares during the season, how Aaron rebelled against his conservative parents by watching Bill on TV,  inside Aaron’s quest to host Jeopardy, Bill and Aaron rank QB’s and announcers, Bill’s wild reason for refusing to watch college sports, and the most overrated sex act.  

Club Renew. All right, I said only reigning MVPs would I talk to at this point. Oh, it is. I'm sorry. It's about the yell at the crew. Right. Aaron Rogers. Good to see you. Man of his word.

Thank you. He said you would do this and you fucking showed up. You're the man. Well, Bill Moore. It's yeah. Well, I'll see you to be honest, so thank you. There's, uh, I you to be honest, Bill. Thank you. I have to ask you, though, I mean, this...

I realize, like, yesterday, that your season starts a week from tomorrow. Yeah. Wow. So, like... Like, few days of vacation. Right. This is the calm before the chaos. Yeah, right.

You don't have to, you're not, you don't have to practice every fucking day. No, we get the week enough. It's great. You need that. What is it like going back to school? The first day of training camp is for sure. It's Aaron's and got you a cigar. I think so.

So you smoking in on another lesser podcast. Do you smoke or I don't smoke that? Why not? You know, I was going to ask. Well, first of all, as someone once said, a cigar is a cigarette without any manners. I don't know what the kick is. Like, I understand what point do I understand about marijuana because it gets you high.

You're making me not want to smoke this thing, you know? Put that away, huh? Yeah. No, I want you to be happy here. I'm so... I'm going to have a little 42 with you. Okay, great.

Yeah. Right. It's the last week at which Labor Day weekend. Come on. Come on. How much? Well, just a little. Just a little.

Just a little. You're happy. All right. Yeah. There's plenty here. Yeah, I mean, I... This is incredible, by the way. Oh, isn't this a great setup? This is amazing.

I give very upset when people call it a man cave. A man cave is something a married person has that has a fish on the wall. This is a nightclub, right? It is. I mean, there's the VIPs. I want to invite back when it is a nightclub, though. Yeah, please.

We have, I had parties in here for 20 years before we made it into this. Yeah. But you see the VIP sun, it says best friends on me. Drink what you like. That was 2021. Yeah, exactly. You're too. Drink what you like, say what you want.

Okay. Which is my credo in life as well as here, you know, I've always tried to make the closest approximation of my real life as I can on television. When I did that show politically incorrect, that was the beginning of it. I think real time on HBO, which was not a broad, you know, it's a cable network, it can say fuck and whatever the fuck you want. It's the best. Right. That got closer to it. But this is the closest, this is exactly what my life is.

I love it. I love it. Yeah, so, and I know you can. It seems like I'm real time. It's, that's you though. Oh, totally. Yeah. It's just me and a suit and we're talking politics almost

the whole time because that's what the show is. This is much more informal and I started this because people kept saying to me a dinner like, you know, there's so many things you talk about that are interesting that you would never go to on real time because it's really a weekly wrap-up show. I got to talk about what Biden's fucking doing and shit like that. And it's not my whole, that's not all of me. This is closer to me. I love it. You know, we get into politics.

I mean, I'm sure we will too. But I mean, I have, I mean, look, I never know what I'm gonna say. That's the other thing. Am I sure? I prepare everything. Here I prepare nothing. Really? Because it seems so off the cuff.

I mean, it's sort of brilliant, but it seems so. So real time. Yeah. Yes, because I try to make it look like that. That's what there's an Italian phrase, spread satura. They used to say Joe DiMaggio embodied it. It's making something that is hard-looking. That's, I would say that is very much what you do. I would send it right back to you Well, I'll try to I'll try to hit the route up over the middle iron Then you can hit me. Those are the easy ones. You have to get the back shoulder one down the sidelines I have to say about football

That of all the sport things, I've thought of this many times because I have a basketball court here. I have a pitching machine. I had balls every day. I loved it. Oh, it's the greatest warm up. Even if you don't feel like working out, you'll always feel like hitting something. And so swing a bat at a ball.

It's like I can get into my, into a little sweat from that, even if I don't feel good. And then, oh, now here's the cord, I'll shoot hoops for 20 minutes. So you're an athlete. I'm not quite on your level, very close. Don't challenge me, Aaron.

No, no, no, but. I will take out just enough to beat you. Most people in your field have very limited assent skills. We, Woody Harrelson was sitting in this chair. Well, what is an athlete? Two weeks ago. Yeah.

Doing this at night, Friday night, and went on for three hours because of this. We had to cut like two hours out of it. But we went and played Midnight Basketball at like one in the morning. And of course, we were high, which gives you both of us the type who get high from pot. So we had a lot of energy. But I mean, yeah, for 66 years old, I covered him, I wore him like you were a shirt.

Locked down. Because he is good. We won those games. I was playing with a guy who can't shoot and a girl. It was on my team. We still beat him. He like the challenge. Yeah, you gave them a good squad. Right. No, he didn't have a good squad either. No, was the one who would have scored, and I shut him down. We won that game on defense. I love it. So what else do you want to know from me about sports? Oh, man.

Basketball, baseball, golf. Yes. No, but what I was going to say is, I feel like in football, it is the sport, the your position is the sport of all the sports sports of all the things you can do in sports. It is the place where you get most easily exposed and embarrassed if you're not really, really good. I mean, I have seen so many guys, you know, I'm a lifelong giant fan,

I love watching you, but sorry, that'll never happen. That's okay. I know it's okay. Of course it's okay. I learned it on my father's knee. Okay, yeah, I literally, on my father's knee, watching the New York Giants. And my father was a fan of the Giants

from, he was born in 1921. The French I started in 1925. So we kind of like came alive with the French and was always a lifelong giant. When they were in the Super Bowl in 86, I flew them out here with money I did not have and bought tickets with money I did not have. Nose bleed seats, but still we got to see him, the giants and Phil Simms beat L.A. They had to be a thrill for him?

Such a thrill. I feel like that more than anything was my thank you for raising me right and not like a fucking pussy. It's pretty fucking good gift. It was a great gift. And he did raise me right. It was not, you know, we were not like friends. He was my father, which is what, you know,

that's where parents go wrong. We can't do that anymore though. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Anyway, but the point being that like, I've seen so many guys, especially on the New York teams in recent years, just get carried out in body bags at that position.

If you can't, you either are at the very, very top or you're embarrassed. That's why people are paying so much for a guy, because we got a guy, even if he's not like the guy or an elite guy, they got to pay him, because they know the difference between kind of the top 10, the top 15 guys in the bottom. Yeah, sure. Oh, let me cut this. 10, top 15 guys in the bottom. Yeah, sure. Oh, let me cut this. It's so...

Well, the circumcision of the cigar. Yeah. Right? Oh, God's good color. I call that cigar circumcision. That is a Stogie. Jesus Christ. You look like the mayor of Boston in...

Trying to mean 10. Yeah. That I just don't get because it doesn't get you high. It smells like a skunk's cunt. The can, yeah. It's, I think it's, it's, it's all about the look you're saying. There's, you not getting any type of feeling from this. Right. And we're just kind of the look in the atmosphere. I mean, you certainly don't inhale it. No, of course not. See, the problem with this is I can never finish a thought. I'm gonna try to finish a thought. How long have you been here, like an hour? And we're, no, but yeah, that I feel like with,

as a fan, and I am a true fan, if the game does not have two very capable quarterbacks, I feel like with as a fan and I am a true fan, if the game does not have two very capable quarterbacks, it's fucking boring. Can't be, yeah. It's like, it's almost soccer. Yeah, but I grew up watching Barry Sanders and that was electric because every time he touched the ball, he could take it the distance.

So there's certain players on certain teams where you don't need a stud quarterback, but I give the quarterbacks. Well quarterbacks pushed lead forward. I mean that really because I mean a running back if if they only have the running back they're gonna crowd the box and and so they do that against the joy, but Barry still rush for two thousand and ninety eight But with each game interesting? Did the Lions go anywhere? Did they win those games? They went to the playoffs one year.

Okay. Last to the Packers. But see, unless I'm watching the Giants, okay. Kind of the Jets. I mean, we also wrote it for the Jets. Really? Really, Yorker?

Well, is that okay? What? Of course. That's okay. I never understood that thing about. Yankees in Mets? Yes, absolutely. I gave up, I became a Mets. So people were real territorial about that. You got to like the Jets.

Very. You got to like the Jets in the Mets. No, I was a Mets minority owner for 10 years. I bought into the Mets. Just. You got out? Had to, Steve Cohen bought the team last year. You had been pretty well with that? Very well.

It's amazing that it has been... As my friends, as they're going fucking nuts right now. I knew that in 2011 when it happened. I was like, why am I doing this? There's a lot of richer people than me. I was like, oh, I'm glad I saved my pennies. I'm glad I have no alimony and children and other appertances that would have cost me my savings. I was able to buy

a percentage of the New York meds, like fucking comedian. And yes, it did very well. They it was so undervalued, the team was valued at like 750 million. This is the New York franchise major league baseball in New York. I was like, and everybody told me not to do it. I was like, you're fucking nuts. No. My account- It's de-friend of them.

They're not invited to Club random. These were my financial advice. Oh, right. Because the match had such a stink on them. They were being sued by the Bernie Madoff survivors because the will ponds who owned the team at the time. They were being sued by the Bernie made-off survivors because the will-pons who owned the team at the time were like very in with made-off. So it looked like the toll thing was going to shit

and the team sucked, but I was like, it's New York. It's New York. It's not a sports franchise, I mean this is. And, exactly. So anyway, it sold for 2.4 billion. Good for you. Yeah, good for me, exactly. But no, I wrote it for the, we wrote it for the Metz and the Yankees and the Giants and the Jet. It was like being bisexual.

You had twice the chance of a date on Saturday night. You had twice the chance that the team would win. You know, that one of your teams would get in. The Metz won a series in 86, right? I'm sad at night. Yet twice the chance that the team would win. You know, that one of your teams would win. The Mets won a Series in 86, right? But I don't want it since. And the Yankees obviously won it 20 so much. 2009.

Yeah. You remind me a lot of Jeter. What's a compliment? It is. Is that because I'm not married and I'm almost 40? Well, that's, I wasn't thinking of that, but Derek Dieter certainly did have a notable bachelorhood. I mean, there was some most valuable pussy in that guy's face.

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I might get Alzheimer's tomorrow or. I doubt it. No, but. Too fucking sharp. No, thanks. But I feel like that, like, I think you will get married, like Derek Jeter did, but you can't be married to both this sport, which is tough.

To be at the top that you guys are of this most competitive thing in the whole world, who doesn't wanna be the star quarterback in the high school, you get all the cheerleaders liking you and the money and also just the thrill of achieving something at that level, because it is mostly mental, right? 100% on your...

It's easy and older, it's on your level. Yeah, because the physical talent is so equal, you know, in the NFL, but it's the mental that separates you from good to great. I would say, you know, I think, and I think Derek would probably say the same thing, but the most important thing is balance. I think balance is so important.

Being excellent at what you do has to be paired with a healthy balance of other interests off the field, travel, separation from your sport because to be that locked in for six months, you got a fucking on the other side be able to unwind. So what do you do? I mean I live out here in Malibu. I know you're from California. Yeah, from California. Yeah.

States going to shit, but I'm hanging on. It sure is. It sure is. I bitch about it all the time. Took me three years to get the solar turned on here. Really? Yeah, just because of the bureaucracy. Yeah, that's bullshit.

But no, I like to travel. I like to just unwind. You know, my schedule is to the minute on what I gotta do for six months. So when I'm off, I'm off. I'm not like adherent to any type of schedule. I do exactly what I want to do. I spend time where I want to spend time.

I travel and I want to travel. We mean to the minute. Like, you know, eight o'clock, I got a, we got a meeting, eight, 30, eight of workout, you know, eight, 45. This is set by the team. We're here by the team. By the team.

Yeah. So I mean, I work out in the off season and I go through my process and stuff. We've got to be set by the team. Or you're by the team. By the team. Yeah. So I mean, I work out in the office season, and I go to my process and stuff. Really, and you obviously are okay with that. Yeah, I mean, there's something to the satisfaction of, you know, having a schedule and sticking to it. I think there's something, you know, there's something satisfying about that, but there's also the freedom of being able to set your own schedule that gives me the mental clarity to

be able to come back and fucking love being. I would think that at this point, the team would trust you a little more than that. Kind of have to down in the minute. I mean, you've seen a film, like we're a dinosaur, you know, it's like, it's justifying position every second of the day, like that, right? Yeah.

And they've done a good job, a better job the last couple of years of trusting, you know, if I need to be away from the team, you know, for OTAs and stuff, I have the latitude to make sure that I'm, you know, mentally clear because they know, and I'm back, I'm fucking back, I'm locked in. Of course, it's like, who wants to win more than you?

No one. It's like, you have not reached this point in your life yet, but I was talking to a cardiologist. Nothing wrong with me. Don't worry people, but you just wanna get checked up. Right. Okay, so like he was telling me this and that, and like you and I will hopefully will get to this,

but probably not, because I'll forget, because I'm smoking pot, but I do wanna talk about medical matters, because that's the original reason that I really connected with you. It's because I'm like, oh, finally, here's a guy who's got the balls to be on my page, and he's like, finally I have an ally out there who's sort of like just put in the water out there, people, that there is a different way to look at medicine and matters of health than just what they're telling you from up high.

Anyway, we'll get to that. But so this cardiologist is telling me, you know, this and that, and it doesn't all jive with what I believe from what I talk to many different kinds of doctors and medical experts. As you should. As you should. And I finally said to him, look, all the people in the world who want me to live. I guarantee you I am at the top of the list. Like if you made a list, I know you have my best interest card. Number one.

And you want me to be unstattained badly and blah, blah, blah. And I submit to that. But I'm telling you, I'm not self-sabotaging. If I don't do exactly what you say, it's because I have other information. And you don't have a monopoly on health information. No doctor does. Medicine is not that kind of field. Mm-hmm.

Anyway. So what happened? You understand? No. I won't. I won't. It's terrible for you. Yeah.

You agree? I agree. Yes. And there's plenty of the science, These people are like this as if there is such a thing as the science. That pisses me off right away. Science will never change. Of course, especially medical science, what they don't know is they just found out two weeks ago, they were prescribing what is one of those antidepressants because it or maybe all of them because they did something with serotonin and they just found out the

depression and nothing to do with the serotonin. So something they were giving people forever was completely misdiagnosed And I'm not saying they did it on purpose, although there is a lot of corruption in medicine. Yeah. But they just got it wrong. And they're always getting shit wrong. Again, not because I'm not saying it's a giant plot. I'm just saying we're at the infancy of understanding

how the body works. If we weren't, you could go to a doctor tomorrow and say, ah, Tak, I'm not feeling good need be. Oh yeah, well you have cancer here, but we know exactly what caused it. And we know exactly how to fix it. We're not there. We're not close. Yeah, so just fucking admit when you're wrong.

I didn't admit what you don't know. Remember, we don't know. I mean, we're not fucking living on a lazy arm. That movie where you could go in some little, you know, tube and get fucking healed, you know, in a heartbeat. I just saw it. Come on, that'd be fucking great, but that's not the reality.

Not a great movie, but it killed two hours. Come on, Damon was in it, so. He watched it. Yeah, you watch it. So, but the point I was getting to was that like I would think that these people at the Packers understand that of all the people in the world who have a vested interest in winning and doing your best, you're number one. So give you a little, you know, So give you a little, you know, leave it, I mean, you have one day off a week, don't you?

Yeah, we do. What day? Tuesday. No, Monday after the game? No. It's actually better on Tuesday. Monday is better to get in, get a workout, get the lactic acid out, and then

Right. Tuesday having off day. It's much better. Wow, it's not, why you're almost like Broadway. Some actually, some teams do Mondays, but I never liked Mondays, because what happened is they would use that Monday, you know, they'd make it so where you really

have a day off, because they'd say, Monday, well, you gotta come and get the Lacta Gasset out. So then everybody would come and Monday, and you didn't have that having a day off. And how do we get the Lacta Gasset out? I don't know. These days. It's wet a little bit, I guess. I don't know.

Is that it? Yeah. It's like so on this. Move around sweat. Yeah. Sun is really good for you. Sages. There's a lot of great research about, about sauna.

Do you have a sauna? Absolutely. Yeah. I have an intra-red sauna. I mean, it's like something crazy. The numbers, you know, it's exponentially higher. One time a week, two times a week, three times a week, four times a week, with cardiovascular disease and heart attack issues. The more times you sit in it per week, it's crazy.

Also on this, or, I mean, this one I have the best of the best. You might only need one at two times a week. I was told. You did play at a good era because you play in an era where you can't just attack the quarterback the way they used to. If you were playing in, I mean, I mean, even the 90s. Even the 90s.

Absolutely. I mean, how the quarterbacks even survived? I mean, you wouldn't need Ayahuasca. You could have a Terry Bradshaw ad. Just a juggled brain. It's very freeing, Aaron. It's called TBS, Terry Bradshaw syndrome. Just a juggled brain. It's very freeing, Aaron. It's called TBS, Terry Bradshaw's syndrome, and you're just nothing.

You're high all the time. But would you think you'd even be playing? I don't know. Well, maybe not. I feel like I could be a generational player. I feel like I'm a throwback to some extent. I don't wear any rib pads. I wear a single chins strap,. You know, I don't, I don't wear any rib pads. I wear a single chin strap, no mouthpiece,

no ankles taped. You know, I've always proud of myself. That's what everybody else wears. I mean, people wear, you know, rib pads and anchor tape and mouthpiece. And why you don't? Because it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I better play behind the ultimate tough guy. Who? Breffarf. He started 300 plus straight games, and he taped his ankles, but that's single strap, chin strap, no mouthpiece,

no rib pads. So I said, shit, if this guy does it, I gotta do it. Wow. I got no choice. This is what toughness looks like. Okay, I'm gonna do that. Oh, geez. So much, Aaron.

I'm just crazy. Taking chill pill, who gives a shit when Brett farmed in I mean he was great, but he also he was he was much more I feel like Like he I feel like he won a lot of games And he also lost a lot with his sort of recklessness Where I don't think that's you. I don't think that's you. I don't have the reckless streak.

You don't. And that's a very important part of that position, I feel. I remember when he was on the jets, more than one time being like, Oh, fuck, you little friend of ours. What did you do that for? He'd like to take some chances, man. He'd like to take a lot of. Yeah. He a good. That's why people love them because he you know

He played on the edge, but so you you were right you now you were like a we're rookie when he was three years Three years you were his understudy. Yeah That must have been tough. It was interesting to sit right? Yeah, you're not a sit guy No, I was definitely an ego hit for sure because you think you're coming in you. I'm the fucking man I'm gonna play right away and blah, blah, blah, and kind of, but the best thing was I got to see what greatness was firsthand. So yeah, you know, not many quarterbacks

that to come in and kind of have that tutorial. I remember from a guy I can really fucking play. I don't know why I remember this, because I don't often think, why do you remember certain things that seem trivial? And then forget, like, I forget, like, fucking whole swaths of time and like, really? Of course.

You don't remember everything. You're disc full, you know? That's true. So, it's like, it's like, so, it just seems so idiosyncratic. Like, what things sticks in my mind? You know, you know that. That's true. So it's like, it's like, so, it just seems so idiosyncratic. Like what? Things sticks in my mind. But I remember at a Playboy Mansion party,

it was probably around. It could start to the story. What year was your rookie year? Oh, five. Okay. So this must have been like, oh, four, oh, five. And Kato, you were not there. Kato Kaelin.

Packer fan. Son of Wisconsin. Huge Packer fan, son of Wisconsin, huge Packer fan, telling a group of guys, who should have been talking to girls, who were sitting talking about football, and he was saying, we have this guy coming up Aaron Rogers,

who's gonna be, and he just went on and on, and we were like, we never heard of him, Aaron Rogers, and we, okay, of course you're a Packer fan. You know, give me a shout out at the Playboy, man. And predicted it right.

He was like, this guy is gonna be one of the all-time greats. And we were like, we'll see. We'll see. They said that we're everybody, you know. I love it, man. Yeah, thanks, Kato. Yes. If you ever run into him, I'm sure you...

I've never run into him, but I think he follows me on Twitter. I'm sure he does. And I was like, oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. And then've never run into him, but I think he follows me on Twitter. I'm sure he does. And I always thought I was- Oh, I'm sure he's at first. And then I was like, trust me. He's suck your dick in two seconds if you ever did. What do you know? You would not have to ask twice.

But, yeah. When I had Ricky Williams, this may be one of his joints. By the way, Ricky Williams is in a podcast. Yeah. A lot of athletes are. I'm curious that Mike ties that ruined his career. What's up? You know, a plant ruined his career.

Marijuana ruined Ricky Williams' career. Oh, because he got suspended and... Right. And basic kicked out of league for smoking. Such, you know, speaking of what we were just speaking of, pharmaceuticals, and the NFL being dictatorial, here's a guy who, he had, as I'm kind of, this is also like 2005, right? Did you ever play with him or against him?

Against him, yeah. I think he was still on the line. He was a Miami in06, I think. Okay, but that was the end of it. Yeah. Okay, so here's, and he had mental issues. He's a very smart guy. He was a...

Like the presson or something? Yes, and anxiety. Exactly. And I think paranoia. Yeah, I mean he thought every Sunday about your big guys were chasing him I love pot No, he did he had paranoia paranoia. He had anxiety and pot was great for all of this for him. A lot of people for a lot of people and they this is so like a recapitulation of what we've seen with COVID recently. It's like no no, the government stepped in, the powers that be, the people who think they have

both millions and said, no, Ricky Williams, you can't do the thing that works for you, that you know works for you. You have to do the pharmaceutical version of it. And Ricky was like, I don't want to do the pharmaceutical version. It doesn't work as good and it's worse for me. This is like when people were dying from biocs.

Which was distributed super widely. It's worse for me. This is like when people were dying from biox. Which was distributed super widely. And then what recalled, we tried my biox. Yeah. And then they got sued and they paid out five billion but they made 12 billion. Biox relieves the pain of arthritis by killing you.

There was five figures of people that died. Like 50, 60,000 people that died. How many? 50, 60,000 I believe. We talked about on Rogan's podcast about Vax. And when I was in college, everybody was on Vax. All my team is on Vax. 50,000 people.

I think something like that. From Vax? We were the fact check me. Those amazing fact checkers. Okay, so let's just be clear about that. We're not saying we know for sure it's that number. Which is fine. We're not.

Logan said on the podcast last week was 50 or 60,000. Okay, but I'm not sure about that either. I've never seen that number and it could be, but if it is, I mean, I'll say this, if that number is that high, it's kind of a scandal that the media didn't cover it more because I remember the media covering it, but that's a astounding number.

I mean, when opioids, which kill more than that every year, but the Sackler family who run the drug company that put out oxycontin, they have been held accountable now, not as much. They should have that. Well, they should be be in many people would say not enough because they should be in jail for what they did. But they should have been generally knew that they did. This was the trial that we just had. This is that great movie, Doepsyk, is about that with Michael Keaton. That Syria that gets on one of the streaming services. Anyway, no, I mean, they have been made to pay a multi-billion dollar fine. It wasn't just a slap on the wrist, but I don't think it was commensurate with what they

did. The thing that I emailed you the other day about what I did Friday night, I had on two people I like a lot, Senator Clobuchar and Rob Reiner, but they were very happy about Joe Biden just passing this new, you know, and I think it's a good bill in general that, and part of it is that finally, we're going to allow how we didn't do this forever. I don't know. But we were finally, we were finally going to allow in this law drug companies, the government, rather, to negotiate with the drug companies for Medicare, the prices that

Medicare is the biggest buyer in the world and they're not getting a wholesale price on that. That's what's been going on. And Obama tried to get that, couldn't get it, even Trump wanted to get that. Now, the government can negotiate for lower prices with Medicare. So I said, you know, all right. So the drug companies were evil for withholding that for this long. And they're like, oh yes, drug companies evil. And they're evil because they fucking sold people

these opioids and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Yes, evil. But somehow with COVID, they always have our best interests at heart. And of course, there's not much they could say about that. Because it just doesn't make sense. It's a fucking truth, though. It is the truth.

That's my problem with society today is, why does everything have to be so fucking bipartisan? Like every issue is not a partisan issue. There's right and there's wrong. There's things that make sense, that things that don't make sense. You don't have to fucking toe the line on what your party's saying. To, you know, and that's the only stance you can take.

Right? Can you not rationally have a conversation about things that make sense and be able to not be swayed by whether you vote red or blue? Not in America anymore. No, you can't. And the ultimate, to me, the ultimate issue that should not be political or partisan is medicine, health. Yeah, what is more personal than what I, you know,

you do you to how you wanna treat your body. Now, if the argument is, well, if you don't do our pharmaceutical answer, then you're going to risk other people's lives. First of all, that's not true. That's a red herring argument. I mean, maybe that's true with other things at other times or with this before they knew that the vaccine does not prevent infection and does not prevent transfer. So now that we know it doesn't do either one of those things, it shouldn't matter what I do. Okay, so that's first. But beyond that, what could be more personal than how I choose to treat my body? I mean like joke of it can't play. It's so annoying to me. I'm watching the US Open now. Yeah. Last night,

Serena. Oh, I didn't see she won. She lost last night. Oh, I don't know. But the best fucking player in the men's side can't play. And one of the most fit guys in the fucking world, that's the point. Who's had COVID at least once or not twice? It's, it is a fucking come to New York. Is a complete compendium of what a Potemkin village, this whole arsenal of nonsense they've thrown at this disease is. You know it's even worse than that though? Kyrie Irving attended a basketball game,

court side, but couldn't play for his team, right. Are you? How was that fucking possible? Well, also, he attended a basketball game and got to watch it in the stands, but couldn't fucking play on his team because he wasn't backst. I mean, make it make sense, that's not what I'm saying.

Make it make sense. You can't. He also was able to play on the road with his team. Eventually? No, no. From the beginning. At the end, he was able to play at home. But they wouldn't let him play. No, not at home. No, he wouldn't play in. Oh, right. But that was the team's decision. Yeah. But they changed. First, he couldn't. First, A-Science changed. I'm sure. What? Science changed. I'm sure. What? Science changed.

Not that science. But no, at first he could not play or they wouldn't. They could play at home. Yeah, or in Canada. That would, the rule was he couldn't play at home, but he could play on the road. But the team said, if we can't play one place, we don't want you anywhere. Right. Then they changed and said, okay, you know what?

We're not doing so good. Why don't you play on the road game? We got to play on the road game. Yeah. Then they changed and said, okay, you know what? We're not doing so good. Why don't you play a role game? But at the same time, people who were not vaccinated on other teams could somehow play in his arena. I think Bradley Beale of the Wizards was not vaccinated and played. It was as stupid as it is to sit at a restaurant

and take your mask off and then put it on when you stand up as if the virus only attacks you when you're standing. You have to put it back on between bites. I've seen people do it. I have to. I have to. I have to. I've seen people have dinner, but you know what? Fuck it.

It's your decision. That's what you want to do. That's what makes you feel safe. Fuckin' go for it. Exactly. That's great. Yes, just don't. Don't for it. But don't fucking put your shit onto me.

But especially. Like I got to acquiesce to exactly what you want. Otherwise, I'm in danger in you. That was the whole thing about me. I'm in danger in all these people. I fucking tested every goddamn morning. At 6.45 in the morning. To make sure everybody else felt safe in the building.

Safe. So again, this fucking sort of world of Imagineering that I have to live in with this. Safe. I hear this all the time. Safety is image everywhere around me. People who don't feel safe. I hear this all the time. Safety is image everywhere around me. People who don't feel safe. Safe. I remember when the Dodgers won the 2020 series and then of course after you win, you have to jump in a big pile because you guys are basically gays. You know, I mean,

it's okay. We all understand that. You got to jump in a big pile after you win and grow each other. It's fine. And then Justin Turner, remember him, you know him, the red headed terrific third race for the Dodgers. Okay. He had tested positive. They found out like during the game or something. So he couldn't play in that game or was pulled or something. He jumps in the pile. And the media went apes shit about this for a full week. And then we heard the tragic news a week later, Justin, I mean, Clayton Kershaw, dead at 32. Oh no, that didn't happen.

Nothing happened. Nothing fucking happened. That's what happened. Because again, these are fit are fit healthy young people. They are not going to go the way of the grave from, of course, anything could happen to anyone. There are always outliers. There's one in a million things.

But the idea that we did not protect the vulnerable specifically target them, you know, as they did more in some states. Because even Bill Gates said, we found out later that this wasn't, he said, it wasn't that a virulent pathogen, and he said, it was, he compared it to the flu, he said, it's somewhat different, and it is somewhat different, but it basically targets the elderly, like the flu does. So to freak out that just in turn or to have, there are colleges, these woke colleges that are out of their mind, we're talking about the people who would never going to die from this, 22-year-olds, 20-year-olds, and they are masking outside at my alma mater, Cornell.

They have to wear masks outside. They get their meals like left at the door. They're masking a Berkeley. Oh, I'm sure Berkeley, of course. And this is all just, this is ideology. This is not medicine. This is indoctrination. And to me, the frightening thing was never the disease itself.

The frightening thing was how much you could get people so quickly to change their way of life. Stay home, wear a mask. You know, don't do it. It was altruistic at first. It's like, oh yeah, that's four. Yeah, four. It took two weeks to flatten the curve, right? And then just about, well, every conspiracy theory came true.

Vaccine mandates, vaccine passports. Right. And it turned into like away from doing your job to stop the spread to like lock downs. And that's my whole problem. You know, I grew up in a small town, very little cases up in Chico, California, but all the small businesses fucking gone.

I mean, our favorite restaurants in LA and New York and across the country, not just in big cities. Look, some crazy percentage will never open again. Why? Absolutely. And then what are we doing for them? What are we doing for the small businesses? There was some PPE loans and stuff that people could file for.

We passed out $6 trillion and the sad fact about that is that a very big, big, big chunk of it was just flat-out stolen. Yeah. I mean, we spent more to keep people hiding under the bed than we did for World War II. World War II cost four trillion and we passed out almost six trillion for this. I mean, wow. Talk about a country that's gone a little soft. Brought to you by Signal Wire, the real OGs of software defined telecom. That's right, OG stands for original geeks and they're proud of it.

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I mean, we can pretend that only MDs know about medicine. It's a ridiculous pretension. It's not true. But let's pretend that because I don't want to have that fight this day, but just among MDs, if we're just talking among MDs, they disagree with each other. There's thousands of M.D.'s that you can read, see on Twitter, the ones who haven't been canceled or somehow shoved off it. You certainly won't see them on TV many times because they won't let them anywhere.

They'll live them on Fox News and then they get tagged as a conservative. No, they're not a conservative. They're a doctor. It's just that Fox News is the only place that will let them speak. So why are your doctors, meaning couches and those people? Why are your doctors better than these doctors? There's thousands of doctors who sign that Barrington letter, which basically was, you know, reasonable, esteemed, knowledgeable, credited MDs who said, published, public, published, and practicing, and who said basic.

And scene patients. Of course, yes, and not like some of the people. Right, who were bureaucrats. Yeah. Right. Yes. And they just basically said, look, lockdowns and look, of course, we had to like,

at certain point, if the hospitals are being overrun, I agree. If a hospital is being overrun, you have to take some kind of draconian measures. Not these necessarily, but yes. That didn't last that long and at a certain point it was what happened to herd immunity. We were told, at a certain point, X number of people will get it and then we can just forget about this whole thing.

Well, that seemed to have come and gone herd immunity and we're still fucking freaking. You know, they're still talking about, they want another booster for that's a hybrid of the Omicron and like, I don't need it. You know, I had it. They made me get one. Okay, I got one. I got the, then I, you know, I didn't get it for 14 months when I was unvaccinated. Somehow I got it like three weeks after I got vaccinated.

Okay. I'm not saying there's a causal there. What I'm saying is there could be, might be, I don't know of you. I don't know and you don't know either. You don't know. Certainly I've heard anecdotally a lot of people will say the same thing.

Now it also could be the case that because I had the vaccine that when I then got COVID, it was almost imperceptible. I barely knew I had it. I lost my smell for a couple of days, had a little stuffy nose. If there wasn't this paranoia about COVID, I would have just gone to work and said, well, I'm feeling a little down. But Bill, the whole problem with the COVID thing is the only way they got to get emergency

authorization use was if there was no other therapeutic options. And there were plenty of therapeutic options because many doctors were given out doses of a lot of medicine that actually worked that was suppressed and canceled and kicked off a social media plan. Demonized. Demonized. That's what it is. Yeah.

Now demonized Ivermectin, which the creator, the guy that made it, want to fucking Nobel Prize, be given out billions of doses. It worked in Japan. It worked in Udiprede, it worked in Mexico. But to mention it in the States, oh, you're a fucking conspiracy theorist, taking horse-de-warmer.

Horse, yes. It's like, why is that? Well, I mean, to me, that speaks to the bankruptcy of the media because once they heard horse, they were like a writer's room at a comedy show. Oh, we got a premise now. Oh, we can't, we can't, this is a hang the horse. Horse is fun, anything with a horse is always gonna be funny.

Horse cock, Catherine the great, that fuck bio horse. Horse is just funny. So they were just going to like, so they just hit the, and I'm talking about like the serious people on MSNBC, you know, the very serious people on horse. It's like, yes, horses use it. There's lots of medicines that cross over between. Lots of medicine, right?

Animal and human. Yes. Right. I was just taking ketamine yesterday. No. Good for you. Is it? One of those that was a tranquilizer, they say it's the thing that Bill Cosby used.

Bill Cosby got a... GHB, right? No, I don't think it's GHB. It could be, I don't know, fact-check, but I don't know, but I thought it was some... I thought it was ketamine, but I could be wrong about that too. But I remember reading that Bill Cosby got himself a vet license, a vet Narian's license. And I think it was so he could buy the stuff that he was knocking on the women out with. It's awful.

It is so awful. I mean, to think, when you ponder like how the complexity of the human being, that he could be this brilliant comedian and America's dad and you know so good at What at his kids in the dornest thing? Crafped yeah, and then be this monster But I mean that's why that guy wrote Dr. Jacqueline mr. Hyde, you know, that's the human nature What are what are your demons, Aaron Rodgers? Plant medicine, I guess, is for us where they want to cancel me on lately.

You're fine. But how many people have owed, how many people have owed me on weed? Certainly none at my bathhouse. The other guy you see before. The other guy you see before. Plants can be used as medicine, just like diet can be used as medicine. All medicine. Sweetheart, all medicine comes from plants.

Do you know how they make antibiotics? How? They go into the jungle, which they're destroying, so we're not gonna have antibiotics, which is horrible. Not that I like antibiotics, I hate them, but sometimes you need them. Okay, they go into the jungle and they find what kills what. Isn't that fascinating? Like, there are, and then they synthesize those things. Like, there's something that, you know,

the, because like fungus, for example, is everywhere. Fungus could take over the world. When there's an earthquake, people die sometimes because the fungus comes up from the ground, and you know, it's very poisonous. There's nothing more anti-fungal acidic than a lemon. But if you leave a lemon out for a week, it'll have fungus on it. That's how, and everybody has a fungal infection has ever been on antibiotics, because when you take antibiotics, you know, you know this. I do. I know. This is the kind of stuff

that is important to us, that I think validates our view about this other stuff. But other people, I think, just don't wanna, they just listen to what the doctor says, the guy in the white coat. So because I've had this discussion with many people, and they're like, surprised to hear that there's like a downside to antibiotics. Like that?

No, really, that to them is news. Like they just think antibiotics, great. I felt shitty and the doctor gave me antibiotics and it fixed that. They're, they're a miracle. And they are a miracle. There's some great antibiotics. I had Merce and I got antibiotics was great for me when I had Merce. Well, they do, they do the job they're supposed to do generally. The problem is they also kill a lot of things that are good stuff. Not a good stuff.

And if you have to do a lot of them or do a lot of them or overdo them as we have done in society, you create a number of seriously deleterious health issues and problems. Well, unless we take it back and start using plant medicine, but it's the same thing.

It knows that. What do you think? Synthetic compared to plant? No, but the orange on is the plant. I get it, but plants aren't killing anybody. It's not just a plant that you're taking in a body. I take a motrin to anti-inflammation to take away the information in my knee, but it's fuck on my liver.

Exactly. I take curcumin, which comes from turmeric. Right. I'm to take out the information in my knee, but it's fuck on my liver. You know, I take curcumin, which comes from turmeric. Right. I'm not fucking up my liver. Correct. I mean, that's my view. Well, if the government didn't say it, then it can't be true. But if you... Yeah, whenever they say misinformation,

I always want to go, who's ours or yours? Yeah. Because you had a lot. Yeah. Or even the things that just people do that I just don't like, I see them with the hand sanitizer. Okay, I'll talk about antibiotic. That's what that is.

And when you put something on your skin, it absorbs into your body, not at the level of, of course, if you drank it, but I don't want to put hand sanitizer. I don't want to put an antibiotic on my skin all day long. You need to live in an atmosphere of germs. It's actually... I say you build your immune system. It's healthier.

Yes. And of course, there is... There seems no rational and then sensical telling, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's industrial complex. What is it? What? Which it is. It is a medical industrial complex. Yes. They have a vested interest in basically making the competition, which would be Tumaric, as opposed to Motrin. That's the competition. Pot was the competition to liquor. I split the difference in it.

CBD and anything. We know the healing powers of CBD. You said you took antibiotics for your MRSA. Yeah, okay. There's a perfect example. You didn't want to, you're not gonna, garlic was not gonna fix that, right?

I feel good about taking the antibiotics, yeah. Exactly. It's a nuclear option. No. It's like if you really have to go there, that's what I'm saying. I'm glad we have antibiotics. Do you think I'm glad?

Yeah. Just like I'm glad I have a gun, but I don't want to ever use it. Right. But if I have to, I will. If you get out of line, you're a club random. I got it right here. I got some too in Wisconsin. I'd hate to kill you right before this season.

Right, come on, you must have some butterflies. You'll be on the field in a week and the old gridiron, talk in the old pig skin. Of course, you know, you're not fucking human, you know? I think the sports world wants robots. You know, that's why I'm an anomaly because I just fucking speak my mind. And you know, you want robots for the most part, right?

You're doing it so right. Do you know that they cover you on TMZ, like on a weekly basis? That means they're covering you like a celebrity. And that's how they should. And that's where, I mean, you're not gonna be able to play forever. No, right.

I mean, you know, there's a clock. I gotta wanna play forever. But really? It's gonna be time to, you wouldn't want it if you could? No. Because the two-honorously, the part of it that's like the six months of... Because, yeah, the surgery.

There's just other things that I'm interested in. I enjoy doing, you know? Like football has given me a ton of things. Unlovable wealth, platform, opportunity, friendships, memories, but at some point, the right ends, you know, then you got to end with. And winning. You know, you were, I remember when the guy says, funny, our lives are so juxtaposed because your thing that you're great at comes early because you're an athlete. I didn't like get politically incorrect until I was the age you are now.

Like I was just starting. But I could say I could go to 100. It's just like this. Because it's the opposite, right? And you should. Right. Thank you. But if not you, who? And you should. Right. Thank you. But if not you, who?

I mean, seriously, like, you need fucking voices of reason. And you've always been, you've always been. Thank you. Yeah. No, I'm not going anywhere. But what I'm getting to is that, like, just the idea that you can be at the top of your game is, like, that's when you can be at the top of your game is Like that's when you can walk away because you're like I had this dream I had this goal. I wanted to do this thing. I got to be the top of the game, you know in your case

It's like oh, I've been the MVP two years in a row and before that and won the Super Bowl You know that makes it okay. I could walk away now, I don't want it, but good, because I got to like, I wanted to perfect this thing that I can do, and I did, and now it's like fun to live in it and keep doing it. But I could stop, whereas if I had to do it

before I got there, it would have not up me for the rest of my life. And like, that's where you are. But there's, yeah, and I guarantee you feel the same way. There's some part in us when you reach a level of success where you don't want to go out of bum either. You know, you don't want to go out on the downturn, right? I'm still, no, really good. I could feel play. I would say this. I don't want to be the lost up no you know

hanging on type of guy that's not i'm a fucking right you know right and i know you're competitive too because you have to be right now i think you know nothing we haven't come is i think we both have a chip on our shoulder yours is from like they didn't like you weren't trapped i got a few yeah there's been a few of the years. But mostly, but they're good. Like mine is from like, they won't like give me Emmys or you know, because like, I don't, the woke doesn't like me because it's what,

because the reason the fans like me is why the woke don't like me. So they are the ones who vote on that kind of shit. Like years ago I stopped caring that much. Can you prod me and get me to care about it? Yes, if you like, Bill, it's MEJ and yes, like you could, but it doesn't, I don't care, like, 3654 days a year.

But that's where mine comes from, is like, okay. Plainly, a lot of people think that if we did by the criteria that I think would matter for like voting on something like, you know, courage, originality, actually being funny, I think we would have won like 35 Emmys. For sure. That's okay. That's the, if that's the cross to bear I have in life, it's a light one as crosses go.

But that chip that it kind of puts on your shoulder, like, I'm gonna embarrass you for not giving it. Like, it's not really on me anymore. You should be embarrassed. And I think you have the same fucking thing. Like, you didn't draft me? I'm going to make you feel very, very bad about that. And you already have.

I have. And I'm going to keep doing it. I'm going to keep doing it as long as I can. But I'll tell you what, I guarantee you feel the same way. As much as I won the MVP last two years, so thankfully I've gotten the votes to do that. But the most important opinions about my play is from my contemporaries, from the players I play against,

from the coaches that coach against me. They know. They know. They know. They know. If you're gonna prepare against us, it's gonna be a fucking rough time. Of course.

And they know, I don't know who's winning Emmys in your category, but like when you're talking about the dude you would watch a show, right? If he was on and you had five options to be fucking you. Thank you. But it's the truth. I know. But because you were level of like, and it is your level of aptitude and intelligence and conversation is just so far. I don't even know who's in your fucking category. Well, let's see. Like, if I'm gonna listen, if I'm gonna watch a show,

yeah, I know. I'm not gonna fucking turn in the late night show. And if I can watch, real time. And I'm not just bullshit, seriously. And I appreciate it. And I don't watch a lot of TV. Like, if I wanna get a good conversation, and here's somebody who knows how to fucking,

like, handle a conversation and be intelligent and be interesting. But that's only been in the matter. It's your contemporaries. Not some random group of people. We know. We're even in a series. Who votes on the fucking Academy Awards?

How do you get to get nominated for those type of things? Well, we got to take out the dinner for those. Come on. We know how this time works. And it the dinner for those. Right. Like, come on. Like, we know how this time works. And it seems like here's the thing. You've lived here a lot longer than I am, but I've been there for 10 years. Oh, I know. I know.

And you're, I'm telling you, DMZ covers you like you're in job business, which you are. But see, here's one thing that always did bug me a little when people talk about winning an award. And then the compare it to, you want ice? I got some. Yeah, I picked up that one earlier. No, I don't. They compare winning an award to winning a sports, you know, the Super Bowl. Right. And I'm like, stop doing that. It's okay. It's okay that you are doing what you're doing. But don't make

that comparison. Because when you win an award, you didn't win it. It's the opinion of like 10 people who got a tape of one show of each of the people who got nominated and who gets nominated, that's just another virtue signaling exercise. Exactly. Okay. And then so it's like it's an opinion if you with a member Kanye West at the Grammys, like when, or at the VMAs or whatever, when he went up on stage and said, Taylor Swift, I'm going to let you finish, but I'm gonna say the best video. Yeah, I'm gonna let you finish, but I'll say it.

Okay, that just showed its people's opinions, but it's not an opinion if you win the Super Bowl. You actually beat the other team. That's why the Espice are the stupidest award show ever, because we don't need an award show about sports. We have the actual winners. And now for best football team, yes, the team that won the Super Bowl

is the best football team. That's why we want sports. Because in Espees it's done now. Espees is done now. Is what? Espees is done. We're not doing it anymore after this.'t you don't I have a point? Yeah, I have a point best MLB team who on the world's here. All right, right them. It's just best hockey team

By the way, did I did I speaking of show business and Did I dream this or Will you like trying to be the host of Jeopardy? I was. Why the fuck would you wanna do that? I watched the show growing up. It's very nostalgic for me. I used to watch my grandparents.

I love the show. And they offered it up to, I was on it one time, Celebrity Jeopardy and one of my, did you win? No. Why not? That was probably all right. We're up against, it was win? No. Why not? I was probably eye. You're helping us. It was the 90s.

You're helping us cheat? I remember the network got mad at the shirt I wore. I probably came right from a club. It was like a club shirt. I thought I was very inappropriate for those to politically incorrect, to be wearing. No, I did not do well. I thought the buzzer was the, I felt like I knew some answers, but like I couldn't get it all

time and you get away until that white light goes on and whatever. Anyway, I wanted. Yeah Now it's passed away and I wanted to I thought it made sense. I'm still an active player. I could film in the offseason. I love the show. I mean, I watched it religiously for years. I gotta say I think you could do better. I really do. I just gotta be your friend here right now and be like, there's a famous Mary Tyler Moore episode where a Ted Baxter wants to host a game show and to host a game show and Lou Grant humiliated Ted. You want to be a quiz master? Has that been going to be Aaron? A quiz master?

I thought it would, you know, I've followed a legend before. I thought I could pull it off. Well, you could pull it off. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I think your show is really geared to middle America. It's geared to, well, first of all, I'm thrilled the show is on. It's one of the last vestiges of our quote unquote culture

that caters to thinking mind. It's about knowing things. Knowing things is very out of fashion right now. Kids don't know anything. I mean, they used to like know one thing. They don't know math, they don't know science, they definitely don't know history. They certainly don't know math, they don't know science, they definitely don't know history. They certainly don't know civics,

which is how government works. That's why we're in such trouble with our government. It's like, the democracy is failing. And they're like, what's democracy? We won't have the checks and balance. What's that mean? How can you get people alarmed about democracy? They don't know what the fuck it is.

So I'm glad Jeopardy exists because it is for those last few people on Earth who care about knowing shit. You're still a quiz master. I mean, fuck, I mean, come on, man. You got the answer right here. I get it, okay, yeah. You got the answers.

Yes, it's so, I don't see what the, for a guy who was like so jacked I'm the adrenaline of the ultimate challenge. I got a fucking free to safety and then hit this guy Exactly, you know postage stamp size square of a window with two seconds left in the game And this guy rushing at me and now you're just gonna be like Capital of Bosnia is. That's like, that's your, I mean, come on, man. You're gonna get the bends from like the challenges.

I think you could do a, you know, I saw you on TMZ wearing like the outfit from Nick Cage War and... What was that? Connor, Connor, why was that? Connor. Connor. Why is that your favorite movie? No, but I love uh, big fan of Nick Cage in the theater. I make theater reels.

Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. I love movie stars. Yeah. I was just watching Top Gun. Maverick?

Yes. Fucking amazing. Yeah. I mean, the militarism is not thrilling to me. The glorification of wasting jet fuel. You know, we're wasting a lot of jet fuel. I'm a guy who believes that we could cut the defense budget in half. Now, how do we police the world then?

You had me, Fritz. I thought you were serious and then right exactly. And we still could, by the way, with half. Of course, we spend more than the two through 25, don't we? Yes. Well, I don't know. Again, fact check. But we do spend more. Our defense budget is more than like the next nine or 10 countries combined, many of which are allies. And when people say defense, what they really should be saying is defense contractor. That's who's getting all the money. And we are creating many times.

We're new in colonialism. Watch this? Or colonialism, imperialism. That's what it is. Well, I don't think you think we're imperialists now. I mean, it doesn't look the same as it did maybe in the 1800s. Where are we being imperialistic? We're in every country surrounding Russia and how many countries around the world? Well, we're certainly not in every country surrounding Russia, but everyone but Ukraine.

Well, we have troops in Germany, which is not border. Well, NATO, every country that borders Russia, other than Ukraine is NATO. Well, not in Asia. Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, those countries are not NATO. Either are the Kaspian countries, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, those are not NATO. Yes. Look, I have made the case on my show that I think we should not have expanded NATO

to their borders. A lot of people said that. But that goes back to the 40s. And when FDR passed away, there was something in place to divide Germany a certain way that FDR had talked to Stalin and Churchill about them. And then FDR passes away, Truman gets an office, drops the bomb, and the world gets destabilized from that point. Well, after World War II, yes, we did divide the world with the Soviet Union because otherwise, look, both sides were...

But they went from an ally to an enemy. Of course, for good reason. They were a communist menace and a monolith and they were, they were headstrong to take over the world. Stalin wanted to take over the world. Communism wanted to take over the world and communism. Reagan was right about one thing. It is evil.

Communism is a horrible system. And it imprisoned millions and millions of people and made their lives miserable and probably it doesn't work. Probably it does not work. Probably killed a hundred million people. I mean for sure. Yes communism so yes it still does. In China. China. China even China and Russia the two monoliths of communism, finally gave up on it. Russia, formally, I mean China says they're still a communist country, but they're not. They're a capitalist country. That's why they're doing so well. They have a communist dictatorship government, but what they did was they lifted the economic

strictures of communism. That's why China is a powerhouse today, but they kept the dictatorship part. And people said at the time, oh, they can't do that. You'll never be able to do that. You can't keep the dictatorship part. No, actually, you can.

You can buy off the people because the people became more middle class. They were doing well. They had a TV now in a car, an air conditioning, and they were like, yeah, I can't speak freely, but you know what, I like the car. Make him happy, keep him distracted. It's not something that hasn't been done here, too.

Yeah. So your politics obviously are not very conservative, but I never thought they were. The reason why people say conservative is anytime you get outside the box, including medically, you know. If I don't want to use hand sanitizer or I want to make up my own mind about how many boosters I want to get, zero. Somehow that makes me a conservative, but doesn't make me a conservative. No, I mean,

no. And look, I mean, I imagine I was championed by the right by my Vax status. And I'm like, I was getting weekly requests to go on Fox News. I'm like, I fucking go on Fox News. Like, I don't want, I don't want to be part of any politics at all. Right. I believe what I believe. Right. Most of it, I based on my own personal version of common sense.

And I don't believe in partisanship. Partyship to party system has fucking ruined this country. George Washington predicted that. Yeah, George Washington said we could never have parties. Amazing how some people can be so foresighted and pressy. And he foresaw that if we had parties, two parties, it would get to this point where they became the enemy. Not Russia is not the enemy anymore to Republicans. It used to be Russia was the greatest enemy in the world. Now it's the Democrats. And I'll tell you something

else, if you, it's interesting, I think there are so many more people who would agree with us because you would not have won the MVP. No chance. Wait, if people really thought that your stands, I thought courageous stands on what's called medical independence, was so outrageous. If you had said I voted for Trump, I bet you you would not have won that MVP. I would not have. Right. So it just says that what we believe about medicine

is not that outrageous and not that uncommon, because I think otherwise you never would have still got voted MVP. And that's what I found. The silent majority was so strong. Right. The first's what I found. The silent majority was so strong. Right. The first 48 hours I felt alone and low and abandoned. And then I fucking, you emailed me and I emailed you and the sun showing again. The sun showing.

It's okay, Aaron. I get it. And all was right in the world. But it's true. It's true. You can have certain opinions. Right. And not make it like what Graham, you know, were voting for Trump. But right. And I you can, but I think there's a lot of people that believe that you should have your own decision-making on

your own medical decisions. I, my thing is, I have an issue with hypocrisy and society in general, and I know you as well, but abortion has been a hot topic, right? And especially after Roe v. Wade got overturned to send back to the States or whatever, I don't believe the government should have any control over what we do with our bodies. No. So as much as I might be lean more pro life, I don't want the government to tell me I can't smoke a cigar, I can't have a drink alcohol, I can't choose my own mental decisions. And if I'm warm and don't fucking tell me what to do, like whether or not I agree with

what you decide to do, who cares? And the government should not have a decision that infringes upon my own personal freedoms. I agree with all that. My thing is, but just don't say to the pro-life people, you're doing it because you hate women, because that's what I hear all the time. You're doing it because you hate women. They don't hate women. They just think it's

murder. And I get that. I personally don't because I personally don't think life is always precious. I don't think people who are alive now necessarily are living a life that's precious. If you picture some guy who's on death row and he's committed horrendous crimes, grizzly crimes murdered his family, acts murdering children. Let me go on. They're keep going. OK, and what else do we do?

Sex with children. Just horrible, horrible things, skull fucking. OK, so now this guy's on death row, right? with children, just horrible, horrible things, skull fucking. Okay. So now this guy's on death row, right? And he's in solitary and he'll never get out. Is that my fairly precious? I mean, I don't, it just doesn't break my heart that we would have the death penalty for somebody like that.

I think we're almost doing him a favor. You're just keeping something alive. It's almost cruel. So I don't think life is, and the unborn, like, yeah, I get these people like, it's murder. Yeah, it's undeniable we'd be coming alive. That's why it's such a gray area. It's not a life, but it's undeniable.

I mean, would be. I just don't care. It's like, if you're not born, I'm sorry, we're not going to miss you. How could we? We never met you. And you're not going to miss us because you didn't meet us. But I get their thing. I totally do. I think it's kind of like me with animals. I'm a PET'm a PETA person. I just, it's just innate in me. I love animals. I can watch a movie where people are being hardly mistreated. It doesn't make me cry.

I can't watch two seconds of, you know, Bambi. I wouldn't even watch King Kong. No, we wouldn't see it. I wouldn't even watch King Kong or a planet of the apes because it looks like animals are being hurt. Even the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, I don't even watch King Kong or a planet of the apes because it looks like animals are being hurt. Even the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, I don't want to see a hurt. I don't know, it's just innate. And I think it's like that with them with babies.

They just have a thing with babies. I fucking hate babies. I mean, I would always help one if they were needed unless I had to touch it, but they just have a thing with babies and they think it's murder. And they're like, just because you have a vagina, you can't commit murder. That's their view. Okay. So I feel like this abortion thing has to begin with, stop insulting them about that.

Just accept this difference. I know people who are, I'm very friendly with and I know we are on the opposite sides on abortion. We just don't talk about it. I'm not gonna convince you, you're not gonna convince me, and we're not gonna have a baby together. So we don't really need to discuss it, you know? We don't need to fucking discuss it, you know? But that's the problem, said,

you can't have different opinions anymore. Like you and I might have 50 topics where you talk about and half of them we might agree on 100% and half of them we might not. And that's fucking okay. It's totally okay. And it's actually great. It's good exactly.

It's fucking the best thing ever. Why would you want to surround yourself with a fucking echo chamber of people who just repeat, regurgitate the same shit back to you that you believe in? Where's the fun in that? But that's what social media has become, that's what our TV programs have become.

It's funny, that's what people have become because sometimes I will have a guest on, usually from the left, who I generally agree or certainly often less than I used to because I went crazier than they used to, but either they got woke. but I didn't walk. Yeah, they got woke. But like, you know, a person who's like, and they will, I will think, oh, this was

a not such a good guess because they were just about talking points, like democratic talking points. It was predictable. It was boring. It was in the box. And then I will hear from people over the weekend after the show airs that some agree with me, and then I will hear from other people who were like, the fact that it was boring, predictable in the box and talking points, and what they loved

about it. That's what I hated, that's what they fucking loved. And that's what makes me go, oh, this is a hard country to turn this battleship around in the river because that's what you're working with. People who just want to hear what they already know and what's in there. They just want to be reaffirmed in their echo chamber. They don't want to be challenged. What I find boring and just hateful, they find great. And that's the other cross I have to bear. But you know, that's how I went all the Emmys. So how long are you going to be out here in your home state of? Let's see, I got about, oh, you got right down to the minute. Yeah, let me see here, 12 and 8, 20 more hours. Seriously?

Yeah. I'm so flattered, you came by that you made time. This was at the top of the screen. You were a man of your work. Oh, thank you, you know, you reach out to me, and I don't know, I don't think I told you a story, but you reach out to me and I, I hit up my representation, I said, I just got this email from Bill Mar, is he in the family?

Like, yeah, I said, we just verify his email because this is fucking tripping me out. Because I told you, I text you, yeah, yes, they, I said, this is surreal for me because I have held you on this, in this esteem of like a voice of reason for so long. And I grew up in a very conservative household, right? So like watching you would be like not okay. So being a rebel and actually, yeah. You were just watching me? Yeah, because you're a liberal for so long, right? You're I'm a liberal now

So for me being a rebel is like I'm a fucking wash bill mark I'm gonna see what he's all about and from the first time I watch your show I would just always struck by your level of intelligence and I respected that and you're level of Now go on now just how I always appreciate your point of view. And I've always been someone, even if I don't agree with you, I can respect opinions if they're well thought out and intelligent and that's what you've always been about.

And so for you to hit me up the way you did, it meant the absolute world. Oh, I'm so glad. And I was so, I was so awestruck, I was like, can you just verify, I'm not getting fucking pranked here. This is actually Bill. Oh yeah. And for me, so that's why I said,

when I hit you up and I'm like, I'm gonna be in LA, I'd love to come on if it works. These are the times I got available. Like this was at the top of the list. I appreciate it. I'm so glad you told me that, because I didn't really even realize all that and you know it's it's just nice on a personal level because I was doing it basically because I was thinking how you know I've always loved watching this guy play

but like here is a good voice, and we need more voices. To just, again, open a window and let a little fresh air in, in this room full of stale air about medical information and what we think we know and what is the science. We need more people who are just saying, just keep it open mind. We're not anti-vaxxers. I'm not, I never would. No. No, a vaccine is a medical intervention. It is a pharmaceutical product.

Those are not dirty words to me. Every time you take any sort of medicine, it is a medical intervention. You're probably using a pharmaceutical product or a natural product, but even natural products can have very harmful effects. Absolutely. Herbs are strong. Okay.

But we make these decisions based on our best knowledge of what's going on in our body at the time. What's best for us? And it should be our decision of whatever to put vaccines in a much bigger picture than just the fucking monofocus people had on COVID and vaccine. It's like, okay, I look at health in general. And I think you did too. So I felt I saw on whatever the interview was or whatever got you in fucking trouble.

I thought I saw, there's a kid in COVID. Yes, there's a kindred spirit. And there's many of them out there. Again, it's just that people are so intimidated from speaking on the subject. Doctors are. They know they will be ostracized, they will be demon-sized, they can lose their license. I just told you, Gavin Newsom is thinking about signing a bill to criminalize, criminalize medical misinformation.

Based on who's standard of missing from? So, when exactly? So, you know, to have an ally on this subject meant a lot to me, and it's great to find out now that there was this personal collection too, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you got more than an ally now, you got a friend. I appreciate that. And, you know, not to make this a mutual dick sucking contest, but, but go ahead.

I just have to have to say, as a football fan, I mean, getting back to what I think I said, like, I don't know when we started, I can't remember what day this is now, but like, all the entertainment you've given me, because at the end of the day, we're both entertainers. So, it's for entertainment. I mean, many times I've said to myself, if I had never got hooked on football, watching football, I generally don't watch. Footballs once a week, well, no.

It's like, it's important. It's just an age to be. And then it was like, when I was a kid, it was just Sunday. And then it was like, it's early, you know what? It's the best. No, it's Sunday night. Sunday afternoon.

Sunday morning, Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night. Even in December, Saturday. Saturday is? Yes. No. It was like, with COVID, Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night. Even in December, Saturday. Saturdays? Yes. It was like, with COVID, there was some Tuesday games. Right. You remember when Frank Gifford got caught cheating on Cathy Lee Gifford? Yeah, you do.

I do. Frank Gifford, Al Michaels, Dan Deer, if that was like the voices of my childhood. Right. Monday night football those three no I'm crispy I think it was had the best joke. He said Kathy Lee Gifford The wife at the time got very suspicious when somebody told her there was no such thing as Tuesday night football But But we need comedy. We need comedy. We don't need censors. We need comedy. I am down with that brother. We need comedy. But lighten the load. You were, but it is entertainment.

So what we both do is just entertainment. And I was going to say, you know, many of the time I thought to myself, if I had never gotten started, how many hours in my life would I have back to have done something of merit, of value other than sitting and watching you throw a fucking piece of leather, which is pointless. And yet, you know, it's, it's, I can't wait for the season to start. I can't. And when I'm, you know, it's, it's, I can't wait for this season to start.

I can't. And when I'm, you know, I have the NFO package, like all red blooded America. Yeah. Men. That's it. A man I mean, I mean, games that do like Watson the Red Zone Channel. I mean, people with a penis, the Red Zone Channel, I can't watch. It depends.

See, here's the thing. Like I said, with a Jetser Planey Watson the Jets. Of course. the judge of course if the jets are playing the judge aren't playing you know what I yes the judge but I'll have to I'll have one game going on in the bathroom one in the TV I'm working before back in the I get up like with the game start the game start early out here and I don't get up early so like I I'm I'm I'm a night owl. I'm a night owl. Come on. I'm a comedian. I live here at Club Random. Come on. I sleep right there in the VIP. No, so I like when I get up it's probably like half time of the first game which out here on the coast starts at 10 a.m. Yeah. So which is perfect. Goofy waking up at you know 11 30. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like near a day. Yeah. Sometimes it's perfect? Goofy waking up at, you know, 1130? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's like right at, right before they have, I get to catch something exciting. Two minutes you're on the first step. Yeah. So you scamper out of bounds. Yeah.

I'm just getting the crusties out of my eyes. Yeah. And you are scampering out of bounds. Nice. Good for you, man. So, a little coffee or coffee drinker? Yes. Yeah. Yes. I only have two meals a So, a little coffee or coffee drinker? Yes. Yes.

I only have two meals a day, which I think is the right number of meals. Coffee and dinner? Coffee and heroin. It's... Now, do you take the ayahuasca right before the game? I do. Or do you take a little more of that? Black star heroin that I before and then the...

I... And at half time, you do a little, a lot of blow. Did I read that story right? You do high was could half time, and that's why you had the best season. That's exactly what I thought. That's what happened.

Anyway, so, no, I usually see like the second half for the first game and then, whatever the second game is. Can I have a question? Yes, but you're not always on there. There are a couple times here. Oh, yeah, exactly. No, you do very well there. That's why they cover you on TMZ. But seriously, what I'm saying is that like, I yes, of course the Giants will always get my loyalty first. Why a title ITittle, I think, was the quarterback.

I mean, that's how far we go back. I think it was Y-A-Tittle. We're talking about like 1962 or something. And then, of course, after years with the Niners. And then, of course, yes. That famous picture of him on the day. Yes, the bloody one. Iconic, right?

And then, Fran Tarkington. Marty Glickman, I can still hear his voice. And I got down there, and I thought, well, I took a front, I was just off at two yards. They were not very good. So, like, anything was very exciting to them. And then Phil Sims and Jeff Austin. And then, Laura. Jeff Austin. Jeff Austin. Jeff Austin. I forgot about him. Well, I mean, there was a lot of...

He played in the cerebral, right? When Jeff Austin? No, no, I guess it was Phil, Phil. Yeah, no, it could have been. When Otis Anderson won the MVP, was Hostile of the quarterback, it was Sim's the quarterback. You're the football player. I'm a lover, not a fighter, Iron. And you're an E-Life in, obviously? Of course. The two times they beat the Patriots. Of course, I love that because I'm not gonna even go into it, but I did. The David Tyree with the football, I mean, come on.

Plexigoburs? Plexigoburus. Got the game when he touched down? Yeah, and then shot himself in the leg. Yeah, accidentally. Accidentally, but still it didn't happen. Come on, you know what? It didn't happen. Come on, you know what? Oh, New York sports.

So maybe it's like this everywhere, and it just gets played more in New York, but it seems like our players do just some incredibly bone-headed things. Like over the years, you would think that New York, I mean, look at the giants now. I mean, honestly, are you afraid of the giants this year? No.

I just... Well, they got a new coach, right? So what? It's sad about the coach. Is it? I'm a, I'm a safe one fan though. I'm a big safe one fan. It's never happened.

We'll see. You might happen. We play in London this year. We play in, we're playing in Tottenham Stadium. What? I guess the giants. You're playing the giants at London in Tottenham, yeah? So not guess the Giants. You're playing the Giants at London? In Tottenham, yeah. So not going, but.

It should be perfect. It's first time Green Maze in London. Oh. Or in England, I guess. I don't know. I don't know if Tottenham can get me good seats. Yeah. No, I can't go to London.

I'll get you in the box. I can't. I don't want to be in the box. Why? I went to a show. They got 1942 up there. I got. You know what?

You're weeders, they probably, you'd be fine. Probably definitely. But I went to a Super Bowl after the one I took my father to, which was the nosebleed seats. I still have. You went to the 87's, I'm a little? 80's. Yes.

Well, it was the year they beat the... 86. Yes. I think it was 86. I think the season was 85, and the Super Bowl was January of 86. No, that was in the Bears. 85 was been. Okay, then it was the next year. 86, 87. It must have been. I think it was 88, 89. No, that was Niners, Niners. So it must have been 86, 87. Okay, so I still have

the, they give you a little cushion because the seats, it was the rose bowl and it was the seats were like hard and wood and I still have it for that Super Bowl. Where's it at? It's not in club. No, it's not in club. No, no, no, no. It's in a special place?

Yes. Yeah. I rub on it at night and master, but no. Yeah. Yeah. It was up to personal. Anyway, you said we were friends. No, but I went to this other super ball.

I think it was 99. Again, it was fucking John L. Way. I can't lose this guy. Against the Falcons? Yes. OK. So it was in a box by then. Did you?

No. No, it was in Miami. OK. You know, it was like, you know, by then I was on TV and so I got with them. I wouldn't take big time, but big enough to get invited. There was somebody's plane was going and I took a girl and it was a whole thing. We were in the box, it was a party. I didn't see any of the game.

I want to see the game. You see the game better on TV. I mean, you actually, I mean, I don't need the announcers, but I like to see the game. I do like the game. Do you like the announcers? Some of them? Who do you like?

So, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't think any of them

should be hosting Jeopardy, but I mean, they're okay. I mean, I used to like... Well, Bob Costas is the best, but he doesn't do football. No. But he's a good friend. He has a guy who is just like, he brings a level of sophistication and wit and allocation to sports. That is very uncomfortable.

Totally. I mean, Brian Cumble isution to sports. Yep. That is very uncommon. Totally. I mean, Brian Cumble is a brilliant sports analyst too. I mean, his show was brilliant. So who non-HBO do you like? Oh, good point. It did sound like I was kissing some corporate. Is it Bob on HBO?

Yeah, he is. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. And Brian Stark. Yeah, he is back on the record. He's on his field. Okay, it's about real in front of every show on HBO. I'm gonna kick you out of Club random, so you're never gonna get in that VIP room.

No, I like, well, I mean, oh gosh, I don't wanna name names and say it all like this guy. I mean, you know, I mean, Al Michaels is great. He's, I happen to know he's a very strong conservative. Is he really? Al Michaels? I don't know that. I think he would do this. I should have him here, shouldn't I?

You should. I should. See, a nice thing. A nice thing. Yes. Interesting. And Ben, Ben doing it for... He's called the miracle on ice in 1980.

80. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. He was a lot of on ice in 1980. 80. Oh yeah. No. He was a lot of fun in production meetings. I'm a big, big outfit. What do you mean production meetings? So the day before the game, most of the time, they've kind of changed now with COVID and stuff, but you go to the hotel and meet with a, so if we're playing Sunday at football,

you know, as Alan Chris Collinsworth and Michelle Tafoy'd be those three in a room and Fred Gidelli, who's the producer and some of the other, but you're not filming it. No, no, no, just be like, they would ask questions to you, information to use during the telecast. From you directly? It's like we go to Minnesota. If it was on Sunday football, it'd be Al,

and Chris and Michelle and Fred in a room. And you, how long does it take 30 minutes? And what were the questions like? Just to be talking about different things, different play, give me something on this player, give me something on this player, here, what about this? And then on the, on when they get up, they get up, and then they would use the information on the, on a telecast. But would they attribute it to you when they use it?

Sometimes, yeah. There's no, we talked to Aaron yesterday and he said, you know what I say? So whatever, about this guy, you know, he's a big fan, you know, he loves David Bach D'Arri. He said, you know, this about Dave and, you know, trust him, whatever, might be. Do you ever want to like, punk them and like when they say? Sometimes, yeah.

A few of them. But there's some great ones and there's some nets of good ones. I loved, uh, Aikman and Buck. So they were the number one on Fox Crew. So NFC does Fox. I love a Joe Buck. There's a, I think he's fantastic. What's a lot of people hate him.

Joe Buck? Yeah. Hate him. Why? What's the hate? No, no, no. I think he's brilliant. I'm a big Joe Buck fan.

I'm a huge Joe Buck fan. Yeah, Aikman is one of the best in the business. Yes, and he's good too. And now they're both on ESPN. Finally, ESPN finally has a good crew. Why do people hate Joe Buck? I have no idea. That is so America right now that we're so full of hate,

that they even hate like people who are nothing to hate about. Shoes? I understand why they hate me. He's really, what do you hate? Because I'm controversial because I say a million things. That's why they hate me too. I'm controversial. Okay, so I understand why they hate us.

But why hate Joe Buck? He's like the host in jeopardy. I think he's just reading the cards. Every team thinks Joe hates their team. The Packers fans, I think Joe doesn't like the Packers. Like, Joe's a great dude. He's a friend, and he's fucking great at what he does. He likes the game and he calls it...

He's also a guy who, he's very much in the costus realm. He's, he's area-died, you know, you get the feeling you're watching, not some, you know, jock or just some dumb guy. And by the way, Tony Romo carved out an amazing place for himself. He did. You know, I mean, a guy who had, you know know, not he was, he never became Aaron Rogers.

A very, very, it just, that shows like how difficult this thing is because he was dedicated. He had a nice career. He had a nice career. He had a dedicated, amazing football player, quarterback, and still can't get to that level. I mean, but for him, that was such a great move. He got to that level as an announcer. Yeah. You know. You never... There's a lot of bad announcers though.

I was watching college football last night just briefly and I was like, these dudes know nothing about the game. Really? Oh, see, I don't watch anything college. My view on colleges, I will watch you when you get to the pros. And seriously, I've never watched anything college. Really? I don't know anything about college sports. I don't want to know anything about it.

You don't want to pass March Madness or anything? Fuck no. No. Not basketball, not football. Is there even college baseball? I guess I don't care. World Series. It's like, when you get to the pros, Basketball not football is there even college baseball? I guess I don't care world series It's like when you get to the pros then you will be worthy of my attention

Love it as a sports viewer That's but not while you are in your apprenticeship. Yeah, did you come out to watch me? You're drawn a hard line Man, I'm like I walk you to you pay to do what you do Yeah, did you come watch me at my me, you come watch me at the improv? Yeah. No. You let me work out. Do you do any comedy tour in there?

Of course. Where do you go? Everywhere. You don't go to Green Bay. We got a couple of good venues. It's amazing. Maybe not as big for a big time. But I go to Milwaukee.

Where? You haven't been to the Pfizer forum? I bet you I have. How big is it? 17,000? Oh no, that's too big for me. No, wouldn't be too big for you. Yes, look at Booker and Harby.

Who wouldn't know? He's got to know somebody who's like a minority owner of the Milwaukee Bucks to help you out. Is that you own? Me. You're a minority owner of the Milwaukee Bucks. Look, we're both minority owners. I know. Wow, we're both minority owners.

I know. Wow. I never knew that. I love basketball. I mean, that was my first love. And you're a majority. One of the majority owners, West Eden, is a good friend and a great dude, New York guy. And they're the champs.

You'd like it. And then, yeah, we should have won last year. We had our best, our second best player got it. You're not the champs. No, Warriors the champs. Warriors are the warriors of the champs? Warriors, right. But I'm a big step fan. I like the stuff.

I'm me too. Yeah. After a power of our discussion about award shows and MVP's, I remember when they were playing the, I guess it was, well, some of the LeBron James team. It's like five or six years ago. And I remember, stuff was the MVP. And they were saying the announcers were talking about. And one of them says, like, yeah, you know,

that looks good for the words. I got the MVP. And the other guy says, yeah, but, you know, was it the Cavalier? Sticks like that. Probably. Okay. Yep. But I think we all agree. They've got the best player on the planet. Absolutely. I'm like, okay, wait, you're all agreeing that one team has the MVP, and the other team has the best player on the planet. How can that be? How can we square this circle? Shouldn't that be the same person?

Should be. Okay, that's my point about it's just an opinion. It is an opinion. Just like menacing. But I'm thankful for all those opinions the last two years. What is, what, yeah, but yours are from the players, aren't they?

No, it's from 50 writers. Oh, right, right, writers. Like, people can be these, they can just be assholes, but this, it's happening. Yes, it's happened before with other people who are like almost unanimous choices. And some guy just makes a decision.

I don't like this guy. I do for whatever fucking reason. Yeah. That's what I haven't asked you about me. The guy in Chicago didn't like me, so he didn't vote for me. And he said it before the vote. We'll see, that could have been COVID stuff. It was.

It probably was. Right. Again, the fact that you still wanted indicates to me that we overestimate how much people are in the bubble on this. They actually do have a yearning. But that's about every issue, right? Think about the most hot button issues. Most of the issues are fractions of the population, but they're highlighted because they're the most divisive. Of course.

Are they not? Well, but everything becomes divisive. That's the thing. Like they rated Trump's Mar-a-Lago house to get classified documents, he stole. Now 20 years ago, there would be no controversy here. Everybody would be on the side of, well, you can't steal classified documents and there's leave them out where you put your golf clubs. Like this would not be a controversy.

Now it is because it's Trump. So like, immediately half the country went to, how dare you go into his home, where his golf clubs are. Right. And take stuff, he stole that was plainly not his to take. And the other side is like, we got him now, try to be... And bring him up. And the past times we would have all just been on the page of, yeah, people can't act like

Trump acts. You just can't act like that, especially when you're president. You know, you can have any beliefs you want. You can be a big and asshole you want, but you can't do kind of things. You can't like not concede elections. You're lost. You know, be a man, as you can stand to that level. That's what I always want to say to the Trump people.

And I'm a big proponent of you can hate Trump, but not the people who voted for them. It's half the country. But I do wanna say to them, you guys, you think you're the big monotonypes? Make America great again, and you're the tough people. Losing, it happens. You know that, too. You can't win every game.

No. Every season, and I'm sure it hurts like fuck. But you know what, you take it hurts like fuck. Yeah. But you know what? You take it like a man. You don't go, we won that game. That's what Donald Trump does. We won that game.

You didn't. You lost it. It happens. You lose sometimes. Be a fucking man and just own up like every other president has ever done. Everybody else who ever lost an election was just man enough to say, I fucking lost. I'll try next time. Good luck with the job, my. That's where America always was.

That to me is the crux of why we're in a fucked up place. How does it change? What happens? The Democrats put up Biden again? They expect him to win? Oh, he could. He definitely could. I'm not a huge fan, but he's...

I'm not against him, and he did an important thing in winning an election that if it went to Trump we would be in a much worse place. Has he stuck the landing on everything Uncle Joe? No. Are there going to be some senior moments? Oh yes. He's going to show up without pants on somewhere. You know, I hope so. I mean, this is just- Just keep my bicycles. Okay know, I hope so. I mean, this is just. Just keep my bicycles. Okay, just keep my bicycles.

It's making. Who, who's the system was that? Come on. I know, but compared to like, okay, he fell off a bicycle compared to taking sides with Putin against our intelligence agencies. I mean, please, the other guy took sides with the Russian dude, okay? Yeah, I'm not. All right, please. The other guy took sides with the Russian dude. Okay. Yeah.

I'm not. All right. I'm a rational thing. I understand. I'm not on one side or the other. I'm almost like, I'm laughing at both sides. Okay. Well, I am too, but I'm definitely more on the side of the people who don't side with Putin. Like, that's a worse offense to me than anything the woke are doing. and I fucking hate the woke from my balls. I mean like the Republicans are actually more dangerous and there's certainly more, I can't say the word anymore, but it begins with R. We're not allowed to say that word, which is why I hate the woke, because we need that

word desperately, because the country is okay. So the Republicans are actually more dangerous, but the Democrats and the woke side are so much more obnoxious. Like the level of hate that they engender in me, with the kind of shit that they do, is like, why would they not think they moved to the middle though? They would get everybody in their side. I tell them that every week. I tell them that every week.

You go into the far left, everybody hates you even more. Right, if you just would shed this skin, this woke skin of pregnant men and, you know, let's make crime legal, you know, let's make crime legal. You know, whatever nonsense they're in, math is racist. All that shit, it would be so easy to just leave that, and they would win every election. And every election?

Yeah, in a landslide. But it's just not where we are. Look, I'm at a time in my life where like I kind of I'm playing with the house money. Good for you. Yeah, because I mean 66 is usually an age, a people retire at 65. You know, that's like the normal American. So like, I mean, I never watched what I say. I think we know, we know that. like the normal American. So like, I mean, I never watched what I say.

I think we know that. But like even more now, like what do you, okay. Could I get people say to me, it's so ridiculous. You're uncancelable. No one is uncale. We're all so cancel, like in two seconds. I mean, one reason to host jeopardy, if we're gonna have that discussion, would be it's very safe.

Like, it's not a thing that's going to get you canceled. But again, it will be like throwing a pass to a guy and there's nobody else on the field. He's going to catch it, but is it really that much fun? What the what should I do? Put it in between tight coverage. Okay? Just make sure when he turns around, the ball is there. He knows it's gonna be there,

and you know it's gonna be there. That's the love of your life. With that guy, I heard you and who's your boyfriend who's on the other team now? Devonta? Yes. I was like, get a room. You two.

You two. I love music. Hey, great dude. I love. He's a fucking great player. I have to man. Can I say, I really feel like if all of America could be as racially in sync as you players are.

A lot of this country would be healed. We have so much racial stuff going on. Some of it, of course, it's hard to relate in the locker room because we're 70 percent black, I would say, in our sport. My name is Donald. Correct. Yes. But it's just dudes. 70% black, I would say in our sport, my name would be black. But it's just dudes. It's just the homies, it's just like our guys. Right.

And there's, I mean, maybe, I don't know, there might be a few guys in a league that grew up super fucked up and have like weird, and it's both sides, like a wide dutter of black, dude, who might like hate the other side, but like, I don't, I've never, I've been in league 18 years and never felt it one time from any player. Nothing but just like love and camaraderie and friendship and brotherhood. This is such an important message that this can happen in America.

Yeah. And it's, I'm so glad to hear you say that because that's what from the outside, that's what I was gleaning. But now I have confirmation. But that's because, like I've heard you talk to the way you talk about Devonte and he talks about you and it is so genuine and so very loving. And again, this comes from obviously there are things on that field that transcend race. We're both on this team trying to beat those motherfuckers. Yeah. And we're, I mean, the pain endurance, I feel like a lot of football is just a war of attrition.

It is. It is pain. Yeah. So you, right. So you're in a war of attrition about pain with this guy. It's like the army almost. It brings it together, as you're both experiencing. And trend sends. That's right. Yeah. If we could, man, if we could find a way to do that for society. But I think I really do think one of the core tenants of that is celebration. Because literally,

one of the core tenants of that is celebration because literally I celebrate him living his best life. And for him, that was moving closer to the West Coast and going to Las Vegas. And as much as it sucked because I love him and he's a fucking great player. Right. Like, what am I gonna do? Stand in this guy's way.

Right. And tell my team to not fucking trade this guy. Exactly. No, this is my home to not fucking trade this guy. Exactly. No, this my homey. That's my guy. That's like sometimes when you're in my business, you lose a writer. Yeah.

And, you know, when I was starting out, when I was your age, like I was, oh, this writer left. And then I realized, of course, because they have careers too, don't be mad. Like, they got to fly. They don't want to just be writing for me. They want to have their own thing. And then you're just are happy for them. But it's hard because there's jealousy and envy. Well, it's going to be really hard if the writer is beat. And entitlement beat you this year.

We're not playing them. So, we're going to. Well, you couldn't have super ball. Yeah. Can you imagine? If they get there, we'll probably be there. Yes. I hope so.

If it's not the Giants, I would want it to be you. Thank you. That's the highest compliment I can give. I appreciate it. And I know. What about the Jets? What? Jets, Giants, Jets, and then us. I could. What about the jets? What? Jets, giants, jets, and then us.

I could, where's the hierarchy right now? Throw the jets under the bus. Okay. I was not watching the jets on my father's knee. Okay. Did they exist in 1962? I don't know. Yeah, I think so.

Because they were in Surabou in 1967. Nine. Nine. Nine? That was the joke. Yeah, absolutely not. Okay. That was the joke, yeah, absolutely not. Okay. That was the joke name with you.

Right here. Yeah. Oh, you mean because the sex act that everyone laughs about, but no one ever actually does, like whenever somebody just takes the, ah, 69, I'm like, what do you do it? No, of course. It's like the beta max of fucking sex act. Everyone tried it and it just doesn't work. Am I wrong?

Why is that? Why is that? Because I think this is too much going on. Yeah. This some other smells and locations. I can't fly, is that the bronzer in the smells? I mean, I haven't tried it. It's like 1985.

But my memory of it is that it sucked. You get to do it once though. You have to, of course. And you think it's going to be great. And then something about it, I think. But it's great afterwards, maybe not in the moment, but afterwards it's great. I think it's good for Cirque du Soleil. I don't know.

Anyway, so what else are you doing this? You're literally leaving and what is your Mickey Mouse watch? There's this and I'm making me as a Zinnis watch Let's see. I'm looking at your clock. I'm leaving it. Let's see You got a plane tonight. Yeah, no 19 hours and 15 minutes I'm like you're in the military. You're gonna be back on the base. Yeah, that's what then if our life men's But it's late but it's Sunday Labor Day tomorrow. You just gotta be back.

But we work on Labor Day. We don't sell them our holidays. We work on Thanksgiving, we work on Halloween, we work on Christmas. We play on Christmas again this year. In Miami, it'd be beautiful this time of year. Maybe you should go. So you got the whole schedule in your head already.

I got some of them. They're the important ones. We play the Bears Week 2 at home, Sunday night football. I'm sure you'll be watching that I would play in London week five We play in oh that's why I was gonna say Christmas against dolphins in Miami. Great time. I got a box. You should come you're invited Miami Yeah, that could be beautiful. That could happen beautiful in December in Miami You'd love it. It's great clubs down there that could maybe I know I know

I'm very well. I bet you do. I bet you do. I bet you do play it. But when I was going to say it before about Sunday, like when I wake up, I never finished this. Half time at the first game, whatever game, if it's not the Giants, I watch you. Because like I said at the beginning of this,

whenever we started what day that was, before we took this high Alaska. Like football, if you don't have two very good quarterbacks, it's soccer. It's just not good. I don't care about Barry, whatever. I don't want to watch her running back, like pounded 50 times a game.

That's not entertaining. I mean, it for the entrance. Let's almost go sometimes. I wouldn't see. I wouldn't see. They can give you the same through the book. Exactly. And if you score, and then you're ahead,

and then the other guy is good enough to score on you, this is what gets our Dixhard as fans. We're just looking to kill time till we die. That's all life is, okay? There's no fucking man in this guy. And this is one of the ways I've chosen to kill time. Could I do it more eloquently? Could I have been writing plays with all that time I've spent writing?

Probably. I could have. And they probably would have sucked. And so I don't think so? Well, I don't know. I could have. And they probably would have sucked. And so I don't think so. Well, I don't know. I'm not a play writer, but maybe I could have been if I spend that time. But who cares?

I'll be dead and I won't matter. What I want to know is, what am I going to do this Sunday that's going to be interesting for now? Because I only live in the present. I'm going to watch the football. So I want to see two good quarterbacks. And it doesn't happen that often. And you are one of the guys who let me have that Pleasure.

You like watching? Have that whoever's good. You have to have one of those elite quarterbacks who... Well, who are you? If you see people to you. This is your field. I mean, name the quarterbacks. Obviously Tom Cruise, I mean, Brady, whoever. What about Matt Stafford?

I think they're the same person. Matt Stafford? Matt Stafford. Yeah, I guess when he got with the look, there are certain ones who are like always going to be entertaining, you're in that category. There are Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes. You're gonna spend a lot of money. Yes.

Chargers got a good guy. Justin Herbert. Yes. Ow and the Ravens. Lamar Jackson. Absolutely. Yeah, super. There are guys and then there's another level who like yeah on their good day Ryan Tannahill couldn't Right tell your face. I don't know why you were leading me into this thing. I'm leading a right day. I'm not You're leading leading me into an area that's much more dangerous for you than me Which is rating your competitors and then look at Maddie. That's okay. Yeah I just oh I love you for that. I love that you don't care Exactly right me for an opinion about a fair the other day

Fuck them. Yeah Okay, then There's a few great ones and there's some good ones exactly so like on a good day And I'm not picking on Ryan Tannahill I remember when they were on hard knocks and thinking boy Miss Tannahill, I remember when they were on hard knocks and thinking, boy, Mr. Tannahill is very attractive. Do you remember that year they were, I don't know if he's still married? Ryan's a great guy, his wife's very pretty. Oh, you've grown one man. Yeah. See, that would be a good thing to say in that meeting with the network twinks the day before. What's some information we don't have about the the dolphins, Aaron?

Well, I thought Brian Daniels' wife, and I think there's going to be a little extra effort here on our front line to keep me protected this week. Just throw that in, just as a joke. Now, but she was very attractive. Okay. Now, the question is, would you, if that, no, I can't believe the Packers would not have to take this to you personally,

giving your position a bite. If they came to you and said, all right, next season, HBO wants to do hard knocks training camp with the Greenvade Packers. Would you think that was a good thing? No, you would veto it. veto Exactly That would be my position too.

You know, has that happened? Have they asked? I heard they were interested a couple times, but our GM never want to do it. Right. Why would you want to? It's you if you're serious, I always feel like feel like you know if you guys are serious about your season I don't think you'd be doing this Right

I mean usually it's teams that are kind of at the bottom and they've kind of worked it in a deal where there's like five or six teams that they can choose from that don't really have a choice but It's the I like I like lead I like real Authentic a choice, but I like I like I like real authentic interactions and why you're a club random and not with 20 cameras around exactly now I will say this I could go to sleep and live a happy life every day having Leap Shriver narrate my life love him I Agree I mean I swash 24 7 just to hear I his voice how funny I feel the same way I was in line at the Oscars I went to Oscars one year and I was in line and I heard his voice and I was like oh my god That's Leap Shriver was like where is he at is he at? And I just like, Eve's dropped his cover.

Oh my God, that's his voice. It's incredible. That is a high compliment that we're both giving him, that we would watch a show for the voice over a guy. 24-7 was amazing when me, whether, Pac-ya and whoever is doing it. Because I was fucking way better, just Leap. I think that that's not- No, I'm just fucking way better would just leave other than that.

No I'm not I must say and this is HBO and I love HBO. But it is kind of the same show every year. Yeah. We got to training camp and here's this guy who's interesting and this guy is at over the top. It's got a big guy you had a rough time and this goes to silly and it it's gotta be hard to cut. There's always that coming into the office.

Hey, you did everything right. You're great. If any opportunity comes up, we'll try to help you out. You're a great football player. Keep working at it. You're fired. Give me your playbook. Give the LLF.

Yeah, our budget will be going to Aaron Rogers this year. Yeah. But leave Shriver saying that's it? Well, yeah. Shriver. Watching it. Yeah. No.

So you would be the good. Yeah. Excellent choice. All right. Well, listen, I know you have to get back to base. But he's, thank you. But this has meant a lot to me. I could sit here all night and get base. But he's, thank you. But, this has meant a lot to me.

I could sit here all night and get fucking high with you, you're great. And thanks for all the entertainment. Seriously, that's, at least one way or to come. My main message. Yeah. Well, I'll be rooting for you second.

Or third. I will fucking put the jets under the bus for you. There we go. Right, me and Kato. All right, I'm gonna be there. You know what? If you get into the Super Bowl, I will.

You and Kato and the box. I will go with Kato. I used to be very close to Kato. I still love him. He's the most lovable guy in the world. You know, he got into a bad situation being in OJ Simpson's guest house. Yeah, let's wrap it up with another football reference.

O.J. All the get-sources to be in. Of all the, right. And, you know, he got just caught in a thing. He's the sweetest guy. He's the nice guy. And he just loves Wisconsin and the backers. And if you get into the Super Bowl this year,

I'm like, the little kid with Babe Ruth. Hit me a homer, babe! It's not far, it's in Arizona. I got cash for a big time. For a big time like you, this is short little. Okay. Where?

Where is the Arizona? Oh, that's where the Super Bowl is. Yeah. Well, you really know the future of where you're going, don't you? That's the situation, right? Yeah, like speaking to existence. Right. All right, well, listen, a little ayahuasca

half time. Take it with you. We'll do that next time. You'll buy agra, the brain will get hard. But I agree, yeah, that's good, yeah. Yeah. Get the dilation of the blood flow. All right.

I think I'm going to let you go. Because I feel like you have better things to do. I don't. Not better than this. I appreciate that. Thanks, buddy.