Club Random with Bill Maher - Ari Emanuel | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

Hollywood power broker Ari Emanuel drops by Club Random, which is convenient, since he’s also Bill’s agent. As Bill points out, maybe once the book tour is over, Ari can go back to thinking about him! Ari takes Bill from the mailroom to the boardroom, revealing the hustle, grudges, lucky breaks, and unaffordable Lakers tickets behind the rise of Endeavor. There’s the Jay Leno/Conan O’Brien shake-up, a 16-hour flight to China for a lunch that never happened, the real man behind Entourage’s Ari Gold, and a courtship strategy that sounds suspiciously like a hostile takeover. The calls have been rolled. Now let’s hug it out, bitch. Bill has questions. Ari has stories. Neither has an indoor voice. Somewhere between the earthworm supplements and angry mogul aerobics, things get serious: dyslexia, loyalty, revenge, Donald Trump, Israel and Gaza and why Ari believes talking to people you disagree with still matters. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1 Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: https://billmaher.substack.com Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Support our Advertisers: Ready to take control of your cholesterol? Head to https://dosedaily.co/RANDOM or enter RANDOM to get thirty-five percent off your first subscription Go to https://120Life.com and use the code Random25 for 25% off. Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://hims.com/ClubRandom to get personalized, affordable care for weight loss, hair loss, sex, testosterone, and more. Ready to have an AI that can tackle real work? Try Claude Cowork today on any paid plan at https://Claude.ai/RANDOM For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial 984-217-3643 or go to https://askchapter.org/billmaher Buy Club Random Merch: https://clubrandom.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM In Club Random, Bill Maher unleashes his comedic wit on an unpredictable lineup – from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Quentin Tarantino and Neil deGrasse Tyson – digging into everything but politics. It’s Maher in his familiar element: one-on-one vibes, unfiltered laughs, and the kind of freewheeling banter only he can deliver. ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last 23 years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 41 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written six bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass", and most recently "What This Comedian Said Will Shock You". FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You know, I don't like the war. Tell him. You can tell him. You can tell him, and I will. And is the author here? I'm here. I signed that book for you. I read that book.

Hello. Hey, love you. Boy, I do. I have a lot to talk. Oh, boy. No. No. Well, first of all, before I get two stones and forget why we're here, it's the plug here.

Because you're an author, you know, we have a lot of riff-rev on the show here, Ari. We have like actors and fucking agents, shit like that. But a real author, that's a special day for it. Thank you very much. But first of all, the cover, it is the most badass picture. I thought I had a badass picture for when I was a pot dealer in college holding up my pot. this is a so you know where that was it's 25 years ago mark's doing letterman at the ed sullivan who is

walbert mark walbert mark four we don't know all who you i know who your clients are which you never get on this show by the way thanks for that go ahead okay they're laughing outside well we may return to that thing we'll come to that subject better so he's doing that he was doing that movie rock star with Jennifer Anz. Yeah, I remember. I liked it. It was cute. It was, I think, 9-11.

It was right at 9-11. It was the weekend before he did it on Thursday. A guy takes that photo. Never saw the photo. All of a sudden it popped up. I love the photo. Oh. My wife sees that photo. The publisher does the whole print of it.

My wife doesn't like it. Stod, who's my wife, you know. She says... Sarah. Well, everybody calls her start. It's terrible. She's a lady. Call her by your name.

She likes it. I know. Your first wife was also called Sarah. You have a type. I'm on a name. You're so cheap. You didn't want to change the towels. So she then does that with this guy, Rodrigo, who is like a genius at book covers.

He's up in session. That is a genius book cover. And he did a great job with my wife, Sam. It also reminds me that the people, maybe they were misled by the picture on the cover, they all are missing the point, as the media always does. Yes, you talk about rage. It's not really a book about rage. I mean, you have your anger spilling over.

That's just you. It's also really funny. I mean, your ghostwriter did a great job. This guy, JR? I was kidding. It sounds like you. It really does. I don't know how much she contributed, but immediately.

It's so you. Yeah. We spent 10 years doing it. Okay. Well, it's really funny. But, yeah, it's not about rage. It's about honesty. You know, it's a guy who just does not have two fucks left to give.

I mean, you did it all from the mailroom to the boardroom. And now, you know, when you're mad at somebody, it's just honest. You just... Here's one I'm from you, which is actually important. I hope you laughed. I was shaking with laughter sometimes, really, because it's... Sometimes you caught in the act of being yourself. Sometimes a brilliant phrase, a line, this funny line where your first wife is pregnant with your first kid,

but you've, you know, has always taken on too much to chew. And you're like, but now people are depending on me, depending on me, people in the office, people in Sarah. Did you write that line? He did. J.R. did. Well, you were smart to hire him. You know, did you ever read Shoe Dog, the Phil Knightbook? No, what's that?

He wrote this great book about Phil Knight, Incredible. And then I read the one he did on Andre Agassiz. Oh, the Nike guy? Yeah. He did the Andre Agassi book, which I think his greatest book. Oh. And then he wrote Tender Bar, which is his story about him and his family. And once I read those, I was like, this is my guy.

And I met him, 2016, the day Trump gets elected. And he says yes. But I must tell you. Like the first 300 pages of this book, I'm thinking to myself, wow, if I had known all this about this fucking maniac, I would have never signed with him. Are you kidding? And the last 100 pages, I'm like, geez, I hope he's still a maniac. He sounds like he's kind of mellow now. And I thought I hired an animal.

Why do you think that I mellowed? You say it in the book. No, here's what it is. As a client, it was a little nerve-wracking hearing like, do I still have it in me? It's in the book. I know. And like, I don't know how much longer I want to do this. Why did you tell me that before I signed up?

But listen, here's what it is. I realize the following. And Sarah, Stod, how old fuck you want to call her, right? She said to me, and another person said to me, he goes, when you're on the field working, whether any of the businesses that I do, you got to be on the field. When you're off the field and we decide to go on vacation, not that you can't work, But you've got to give yourself some time. That's kind of what I was referring to.

I never did that before. I was always on the field playing chess about every club. It was insane. The amount of suffering you did. It was shocking. It was one of the many things I learned that I didn't know what was going on. When I, before I was with you, I knew you and friendly and, you know, always trying to get me to sign. But I had no idea you were doing as bad as you were doing sometime.

I thought you were always like a mogul. And then I read like, oh, we're, you know, I'm a middle seat on the flight to Hawaii. And, you know, like your office smelled like hamburgers. Yeah. You know, but. Well, you remember, we didn't have anything. There was four agencies, CAA, ICM, William Morris, UTA. And then we started.

And I see, when we left, we were four little guys. They blew it up on the New York Times. Also, we became an agency. and we had no money, nothing. To buy the tickets, the Jeffrey Castleberg story, the $500,000 to buy those basketball tickets were like, they were like the Billboard on Sunset. To buy the Laker ticket.

Yeah. See, this is your genius here, because, again, I thought you were this big mogul because you had the Laker seats. Yes. It was brilliant because that picture says everything. But really, what I find out is behind the scenes, you're like, you know, scraping.

We're rubbing nickels. And also killing yourself to get it done. Yes. So that guy, is that, I mean, part of what I do love about the book is it is a love letter to the job of agenting, which of course, gets a bad reputation. I mean, I could tell you many, I'm sure you know all the agent jokes, you know, the agent, the guy who. Here's my belief. I was, Rick Rosen was really the guy with Conan O'Brien. This is, in my opinion, one of the great agent stories.

Jeff Zucker makes a mistake. He thinks he makes a mistake with the Jay Leno. Jay didn't have an agent. He had a lawyer. And Rick Rosen and me, we do our job for our client. And Jay was out. I've told this story from my view, which is the same view. And what I've said is...

And that's called being an agent. And Conan's incredibly talented. When I have counseled people who ask me about the business, young people, you know, they want to be. mentored very often. Yeah, yeah. And they listen. At least until they stop being a stripper. No, I'm kidding. Anyway, so like, one of the things I tell them is you absolutely have to have someone talking for you. Whoever it is, it can be your Aunt Mildred. It just can't be you. So agent manager, and I said Jay Leno's problem was he didn't have an agent. And though they fired

him for the crime of being number one because what NBC had in lieu of Jay's agent talk to them was the snake named Ari Emanuel who was in the ear saying don't you want to look to the future? Jay's getting old. He's only number one

for how much longer. Don't you want to get ahead of it? And that worked. I mean, that was one of your I thought big successes, although I thought it was really stupid on the part of NBC. I mean, they fucked up the whole thing. Well, we can go through the history of...

No, it's not. Yeah. But that's what... Our job is to... Yeah. ...is to package, put things together, make sure people get along and try and navigate that situation.

There is a... No, again, Agent Joke, Sharks, yes. But there is a type. My manager, Mark Gerberts, is this type. I'm pretty sure you're this type. They just really want to be some of... Okay, so every January I watch people announce the 10 pounds they intend to lose, they buy the skinny jeans, and download the new health app, and by February, that app is tucked in a folder called Health that nobody opens.

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I appreciate you. You're doing a great job. You're an unbelievable protector. But it is. You have this instinct, call it. I don't think you care about this, but famous and you don't want to be the story you always want to do it and yeah and i think you you talk it's very charming like you say they're the bumblebees they spread the the agents

you know you need somebody to put those things together and to spread the whatever even even with all the bullshit i think representing people that are incredible artists there is a business aspect that is an art form. Right. And if you do it well... It is. If you do it well and you have taste, you can be very... So are you still that?

Oh, my God, yeah. Okay. I mean, today was Aaron Sorkin. I mean, his movie that's coming out on Facebook. It's Pete Berg's movie that he's got coming off, Mosquito Bowl. Any other clients on your list today? Well, you're asking me, but today was... Those were two movies coming out.

that was working on it and it was Sean. I mean, I can't bust your balls too much. I came, I have a job. Yeah. I've had it for a long time, you know, and I'm not looking for another one. Wait, we're looking for one more. We're looking for voiceovers and animation. Oh, you didn't, you didn't forget.

Actually, I actually sent Mr. Gervitz last week a whole thing about it. People, would I not be great as a cartoon villain? Yes, you would. I mean, I would be. But they probably won't do it because of politics. I think you're wrong. I think they're going to do it. Great. That's what I love about your optimism.

I mean, you do. You do have this love affair with the business starting at the... By the way, we have some things in common. Like, I also was a delivery boy before GPS with a map in the dark... Did you have the town's guy? Cursing people for not putting a clear number on their house. How about this? How about there's no streetlight sometimes? That's what I'm saying. It was the very dark. I was the delivery boy for Westwood Cornwall.

liquor and drug. When you were doing standard? When I was 16, when I was in high school. Yeah, I don't think you're even supposed to do that. I have a 16-year-old deliver liquor liquor. No, you're definitely not. The only job is 16-old. I'm going to mow. I'm going to mow the lawn,

I'm going to take the snow, and I'm going to shovel snow. No, from 7 to 9 every week night, I would go there, and I would, you know, the liquor store. How much would you make? Tell me. Please tell me. Please tell me I made more than you. $2 an hour. So at the end of the week.

I think I made more than you. Yeah, okay. I made a base of 200 in the mailroom plus 15 cents a mile. Well, I mean, look, we all like money. And, you know, you had some line in there about there at times. And the only thing in my eyes was vizine and dollar signs. Yeah. But I also saw you do things.

I'm just thinking about this book. It made me think you're even more of an animal that I thought you were, but also more of a human. Because there are moments like where you do, I think it's because we have the same kind of parents, brought up by liberal parents. Yeah. You know, punching, never punching down. No. You fight with a lot of people, but it's always punching up. And when Kanye was anti-Semitic, you know, there was money on the table with Mel Gibson.

Who's a client? And Khashoggi. Yeah. So the journalist in Saudi Arabia with his head cut off. So you stood up for the Jews. You stood up for an hour. I got to give you, you know, props for that. For, you know, you, there's a human in there.

We're still looking. We're still trying to find that on occasion. We're looking. But also a crazy person. Yeah, I mean, like, wow. I mean, some of the tirades and the... Which ones? Well, I mean, again, nothing everybody doesn't do.

You just do it openly. When I walk in the room, you know where I stand. Yeah, and you're not afraid to tell somebody go fuck yourself. I mean, just as a low, like, practically. I mean, you know, you don't like to lose. You know what? You are the perfect example of, you know, a few, I'm sure you've read a million scripts and you had to. Like, I took a script writing course once, and like, here's the main.

thing I took from it. The character needs a desire and a need. They're different. Yeah. When they come together at the end, that's like... If it comes together, it's perfect. Like Rocky, his desire is to win the fight. His need is to be loved and be able to stand. Even if he doesn't win the fight. So at the end, he loses the fight, but gets Adrian. Spoiler alert for those who haven't caught up to. If you I haven't seen, I am Rocky. Here's what happened. 1976. So I feel like you are the character who, like, is all this desire.

And the book really is about, but is looking for the need. The need is, listen, I had incredible parents like your admiral parents. They taught me so many great things just by their actions. But there was Zeke, the smart one, Rom, the artist. And then there was, you're the third one. And it was a desire to get an identity. And this business that we have entered had all the makings for me to get an identity.

And I would have, as I said, the Pete Bird. I didn't have plan V. I only got plan A. I was going to do anything to make plan A work. And I would have gone, as in the book, to sickness to get the plan A. Yeah, but what makes the book interesting to me, besides the stories and stuff,

But some of that is because I'm in this world, so I know these people. But it would be interesting to anybody. But the fact that you have this burning desire, and yet over and over again, there's some line on the order of, you know, but the high never really lasts. Don't you think our business is always what can you refer to me next? I'm quoting you. Oh, I'm sorry. What an asshole.

It's not my first time. Because it's a great line. It's about like, but this, it's another, some merger you pulled over, so on it. But it didn't hit the spot. Wherever the spot is, it remains untouched. You know, I just thought that is a certain type. I'm somewhat that type, but you have that to an extraordinary degree. Like, why, how come every time I achieve this thing that I so desperately wanted, I find out it didn't make me happy?

Yeah. That's an interesting character. But that's... And that's desire versus need. Yeah. And you know something? I'm trying to get better at it. I don't look in the rearview mirror.

I don't know if that's my upbringing or this need to constantly prove myself. You're obsessed with digestion. You eat worms. Right here for you. I brought them for you. Oh, please. I did. I brought them for you.

What form do they... You're not talking about just like a fucking bird or a fish would eat. I'm going to show you. Don't eat it now. No, I'm not going to do it now. I'm giving them to you. I've already done mine in the morning. Are they made into pills?

No, it's a liquid form. It's a liquid. It's microsoppa. I need to swallow it. I see. Okay. That's less gross than I thought. Okay.

Great. So anyway, you're obsessed with digestion and your whole life, you have made yourself miserable up until recently because you constantly eat something you cannot digest. You could, William Morris. You wanted it, you ate it, you swat. But then it made it. issue, oh my God, if you don't get bigger, we're going to die, and you're going through it. And then it was IMG, whatever, this fucking alphabet soup of thing.

And I'm going to go public. I got to get wrestling. I get it. Every time you do, you're driving yourself almost to death. Yeah. Like no sleep and flights you don't want to be on working through pain. Like, you know, you're on the phone with Obama and you've got a needle in your back. I mean, it's just like crazy shit.

Yeah. But you, because you're not digesting, because you ate this thing. Because I'm having the worst. Then you have to. But then, but you eventually did find a way to digest them all, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. You know, folks, half of modern work isn't work.

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Definitely worth it. Really? You describe a lot of misery. It was a lot of craziness, and it came out at the end, a beautiful story. Even though at the time, I didn't believe it was going to be because it was, you know, it's all over the place, physically, emotionally. But it turned out okay. Well, it turned out great. I mean, you know, obviously, yeah, I mean.

During it, it was hell. I mean. Well, how about the flight to China? And it didn't book the lunch. That really, of all the things. But, you know, like you... 16 hours? I got out of flight right back.

Right. I wanted to kill him. No, I can't... I know, and you probably did. Well, he wasn't... When I landed, he wasn't working for me. People don't know. You were...

Your assistant said you had a lunch in China, but didn't confirm it. So you flew all the way to China. Well, he didn't tell me he didn't confirm it. I understand. But if that was... me first of I would never fucking get on a plane to China for a you know you would flyer yeah just flying you're right flying is very bad for your health I'm so glad I stopped for that torring oh yeah you can't I mean it's it's it just kills you one reason I didn't

need CIA anymore yeah it just you get up you're done working on Friday and you get on the plane yeah oh my God no I miss if they could just beam me there it would be the perfect world but yeah can't do that maybe maybe they'll have a halt of me. But I feel like there's, you know, you both collect people in the book and also, like, you know, cut off a lot of heads. You know, like when you, when you're done with somebody, you know, but there's also this theme of like you keep meeting these people who, you know, sometimes you're just because you read about them or something and you wanted to meet them, you know, you think, you say that's, and I get it. It's a great perk of the, of the,

the business that you can, you know. Well, it was a perk of being Ari Gold, my brother in the White House, kind of the company starting to get hot. And if I read an article about Mark Andreessen, I could call him up when he was nobody. And I met him, and that led to Egon Durbin, who became my partner in all my events. It's crazy. Yeah, but, and some other guy you said he's the brother you never had, but you met him late in life. Mark Sparrow.

Okay. I don't know who these people are, but I mean, you know, but then like you also, boy, if you're, if you're dead to me, I mean, you're, well, when I didn't know you that well, it was always you and Patrick White's. That was, it was like Batman and Rob, and I'm like, you couldn't say one name without the other. And I remember this is like back in like when I was like out on the clubs and that shit like the 90s and like girls were very into Patrick Weitzel. Oh, he was a man. He was. was the man. Yeah, I mean, I remember this girl saying, oh, yeah, he's finer than his clients. Yeah, he was, he was one of the most incredible agents of all time, of all time. I mean, he might be on, like, Mount Rushmore. But then... It sounded like he represented a lot of erections also. But then, you know, we became a company that owned businesses. We owned UFC. We owned wrestling.

And it wasn't just an agency. These are the things you were eating that you could not get down. I got them down. But they took a lot out of me. You were like the snake who eat, again, you're the snake. Not that I'm saying agents or snake. Just because that came up twice. But that eats the giant thing and you see it.

But they know how to do it. Well, I've been doing it for so many years. You were a human. You don't know how to do it. But you did it. I mean, but I certainly hope you're still at it because I definitely, I'm not done. I'm not done. Okay, good.

Yeah. Yeah, and I do, look, at the end of the day, I tell myself, I know this guy pretty well, and what I said before, I think is the truth. You have this very deep thing in you that good agents and managers do. They do want to protect, they do want to be that person out front. And they want to protect the client. You know, and like you said, like agenting, that's. is a talent. I think it's an art form like you do in your stand-up and the conversations

that you're having. Well, my stand-up is better than agenting, but okay. But getting you to where you get to do your thing at one financially and two kind of, that's the job. That is a, and it's a, I think, a redeeming job. So after the book is out, you'll go back to thinking about me and not you. Yeah. Only you But you know, you're happy. I'm very glad to see you're happy

because like, boy, fuck, you know what? I learned from this book, not that I didn't know what dyslexia was or that people suffered from. And I didn't realize that it was like this very large colony within the country. You know, it's almost like an identity group who really understand each other in a way

everybody else kind of can't. But if you look at that... A lot of... A lot of people. They're either people because you have great parents that you become a road scholar, you become really successful, or, like, I don't know what the percentage. It's a big percentage are in jail. Because, you know, you just can't make it.

If you don't have family members that can really get you through it. Right. You certainly had characteristics that would put me in jail. Of course. You just fly away you, you make enemies. You're constantly in... Oh my God, they're going to make me... You're constantly in feuds.

That sometimes they're... You know, it's like that Wayne's Brothers book, 150 ways to know your ghetto. And one of them is you jump into fights that don't involve you. I only jump into fights that involve me. I protect people. I'm a ride or die guy, clients, friends, myself.

Well, unless it's time for them to die. No. If they do something that's bad or you think that they've double-crossed you, yeah. Well, Patrick didn't exactly double-crossed you. He seemed to lose interest in the business. Then, at the end, he went behind my back as he had made a lot of money. Oh, he did. To my financial partner and my partner, and he said, you know, I'm going to, after we made,

a deal. Everybody was going to, here was the deal. I'm doing this and I'm doing that. You're going to do this. And then he said, after we're going to announce, we're going private, it would endeavor. He then said, nope, I don't, even though we then announced it, we all agreed to it. Gabe, guess what? I'm not even arguing with what you are talking, what you do. I'm on the same page. People kind of have to earn their wings, not every day. If someone has been your friend for a long time, you give them a lot more rope than someone who, you know, if someone's late the first time you're supposed to meet them, you're dead, right? You're gone.

Like, the first time, this is your... Somebody you've met him before. Yeah. But if it's somebody you've known for 10 years, and you'll give them a pass, even though we hate, both of us, hate waiting. We also both don't like, you don't say goodbye? No. I don't say hello. Yeah. Like when I, I was like, unless I haven't seen someone in a long time, but at the office, like, I saw you yesterday. Why am I saying hello again? Like, what happened?

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It was quite eye-opening, Ari, I must say, to find out from your book that, like, for years, like, I knew you for years, you would call me quite often. When are you going to leave that dumb age of years? You were like Trump. You unnecessarily insulted him. He's a great guy. But just, you know, trying to get me to sign. And I don't have to find out, you do that with everybody. That's how you did it with both your wives.

You are just, you just don't stop. Yeah. You're like Yoko. Wait. Yoko. Yeah, I did this. A yo-go! Well, listen, a few years ago, the New York Times asked me to do a book review for this book about the Beatles.

I guess it's known I'm a beetle nut. So, like, it was good. It was called 150 glimpses of the Beatles. I could have lived with 100. But, okay, so it put some light on details or instances I thought I knew about that with new details, that was a good part of it. And one of them was that I didn't realize that Yoko, you know, it wasn't like a chance meeting with John Lennon. Really?

Yeah. According to this book, she used to jump into the car, like he would follow him, play. She wrote him a letter every day and got it to India when they were in India. You know, she. She loved him, her way. She wanted to get her a beetle. First, she wanted Paul.

Oh. And first, Linda wanted. John, you know, when you want a beetle, we don't care which one. We can't always board everyone's first choice. Just eat the chicken. So the fact that she was just so, he's very funny talking about how persistent she was, you know, and I don't think, oh, Yoko's the dragon lady, I like Yoko. But, you know, I think she, she wanted a beetle. She wanted that guy and she was just what he needed at that time.

She kind of knew how she was older than him by low. She wasn't a kid. She knew how to, you know, inscrutable Asian ways of getting something. No, but. She wanted a letter every day? Every day when they were in India. I'm not sure how she made sure it was delivered. I don't know, maybe some connection in the East.

That's incredible. I know. But that's you, you're just like... I'm relentless. I'm relentless. I was laughing out loud when you talk, when you were talking about how starred. No, I'm sorry. She's too much of a lady. Sarah.

Sarah. Sarah the second. When you were trying to get with her, and you're very desperate, it's very funny. Either you or the guy wrote a funny line about it. A guy calls you up and says, I want you to meet someone. Who? A woman. I like her already. That's true. I said that. You said that. See there, you got one for yourself. Okay.

It's funny. So, and of course, she Googles you, sees that you're 55 or something. She's 28. And she's, you know, I know Sarah quite well now. She's awesome. But yeah, she's like... She thought William was with a cigarette company. No. It's where to you? swear to you. She thought it was a cigarette company. To be fair, at the time it was.

And a Halloween store. Yeah. But I didn't stop. No. I mean, she's, and she was a girl who knew what she wanted. I mean, it would make actually a good movie because, you know, movies, rom-coms have to depend on, I mean, you got 90 minutes to film. going from one place to another.

You can't like each other at first. You have to hate each other at first. She didn't exactly hate you. No, she was indifferent. She was just, yeah, you're too old. Like you were not in the pool of men who are able to court me. Yeah. And this was just not going to fly.

Well, I don't think she knew what she was up against. I know. But when you wrote, so it made me go into signing mode, I was like, wait a second. I did. I did. what happened to me. I went there. I see what happened to me now. All those years, I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And next thing you know, we're being married by Larry David. And where were you married somewhere? In Central Beck. Central Beck. That's where. So we had the second date. She says she's going there for the summer, because her father has a place there. I said, I'm going to be in Europe. I'm going to come take you to dinner. And cut to, she goes, no. I said, I'm going to show up. you'll like that and I'm going to text you that

and then she shows up and she did. And this is after she said no to you a million times. Yeah. So I had to fly to San Trope. Yeah, I mean, I mean, why were you so sprung on this chick without knowing it that well? Well, the minute you see her, you realize

how beautiful she is. She's a beautiful, physically beautiful woman and emotionally she is well put together. You're right for each other. She wouldn't be right for me. Is there a woman right for you? Oh, yeah, you know. I love her.

Yeah, okay. So, I'm upset. And what those two have in common is they are the two of the most self-assured. So self-assured and not afraid or not, yeah. So that's, they got their shit together. They're confident. And so there's no. And you can't rattle them.

And you don't want to. No. No, you cannot rattle them. And exactly, scared to rattle them or try to. I am not scared. She is as, and I've seen it in her business, she is as tough as it comes. Yeah, that's not my time. Yeah.

I'm saying, that's for you, because you want to challenge all the time. And you're going to take over this and going to take over that. And what three letters are left that I haven't taken over? B. I want all the Alvin. I want BLT. I'm taking out of tea. Yeah, that's it, Ari.

Take over bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwiches. Are they buyable? Oh, God. Yeah. So are you done buying things? Why don't you? No, probably not. What is this latest one you got?

So there's the Niederlanders. The Niederlanders? The theater people? Yeah. And then there's the Schubert's. Of course. And then there's this company called ATG. A TG.

Yeah. Sounds like a government agency. Well, they're the largest footprint in the theater space in New York, London, and all over the world. Oh, they're bigger than the needleanders and... Yeah. What a shame. Yeah. The Schubert's in the name.

I got to be able to, I got to open the mouth, but I got to swallow them out. You're doing it again. You know how many fucking worms you're going to have to eat? Well, I guess now, now it's easier because you got all this money behind you. Like before, it was like, you know, you were. were just on a limb. But, geez, the Niederlanders, you know, I got a Tony nomination. Part of my anti-Egot, I've lost all the awards.

I mean, I was nominated for a Grammy, spoken word. Yeah, all of them. But Broadway, when I was there in 2003, Niederlander Schubert, those were the names, and they had been for 100 years, right? Right. And now fucking you come in with your... Oh, Jesus.

Why do you say it in that way? No, you're right. I mean, change happens. Yeah. You know, this is, again, you either were a new friend or a dead friend. That's not true.

No? No. No. With most of the people, something transpired. No. And I take a lot of responsibility for some of them. You know what?

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That's 984-217-36-4-3. So I do basically trust that when you make these changes, you know, it's like, it's inevitable. The change is inevitable, and, you know, hopefully it's not just for revenge, although you do have a thirst for revenge often. I mean, I'm seeing or remember something you were buying where it was hundreds of jobs

and maybe thousands and billions of dollars on the line, but you said to you, the most important thing was wiping that fucking smile of some guy's face and another guy who laughed at you. You really don't like it when people laugh at. That was William Morris. William Morris. It was very funny.

with Jim Wyatt in Irvine prop. This guy was laughing that big important hymn was going to buy a little old meat. And then you bought them. Yeah. See, that's the thing. The people you hate, I don't know. I mean, I don't know Jeff Katzenberg. Well, you seem to hate him more than anybody.

And many people do, but I don't know. Twice he's called me to have first lunch and dinner, I think, first, and then we had lunch. This is like 15 years apart, maybe 20 years apart. But out of the blue and seemingly with no agenda, which is only a little... Hello. But, you know... I should get you coffee instead of tequila. But they tell me that, like, he has, like, three breakfasts every day.

He just talks to a lot of people. So I was like, sure. I mean, Jeff Katzenberg, he's a legendary guy. And, you know, but you fucking hate him. I mean... Well, here's what happened. It's pretty simple. You know, those basketball tickets that we couldn't afford,

and they were, like, the billboard on Sunset Boulevard when we were starting made us look big. He went behind him. behind my back, we had a contract, and they tried to take the tickets. And I wasn't going to permit that. And you would never do that to somebody? No, definitely not. Because you do say at one point...

I definitely would not. Something about like, I think maybe you were leaving one agency, your plot, you know, the... The plot. Okay, what... I need a talent. An endeavor, yeah. But this is like a plot, no pun intended, that plays out constantly with agencies. A bunch of agents within the agency.

become a plotting nest to start their own agency. And you say, like, it gets to a point where you're thinking, are they going to abandon and stab me in the back, or am I going to do it to them? So it's not... No, but that's different. You admit that it's in your mind. That's different.

That was like where we're starting a business. We had these tickets. They became the hot tickets. We owned the tickets. He goes behind him and tries to say up the price. We could barely afford them as they were. Fine, I got him back. He calls me.

Then there was another incident with him fine. He did something that was bad. Then the last piece... As much as we could say about this. No, no, no, I'm going to say. The last piece that put me over the top. My brother works for the Obamas. He's chief state.

We know. Chief of State. Right? Yeah. I know Joe Biden through my brother. He says, I can get you a meeting with Joe Biden, a million dollars. I said, do you think I need to give you a million dollars to you can tell Joe Biden that I gave you a million dollars to make me? million dollars to meet with Joe Biden.

Okay. He goes, I have all the relationships with Joe Biden. Wait. Then, as you've said and I said, a year before Ruth Bader Biden, we're all saying, okay? And I'm calling him like, hey dude, you say you got his ear.

You're the man. You're talking them all the time. After that last debate, I said, you've got to get him out. Silence. Then the election's over, he loses. I wash my hands of politics. I'm not in it anymore.

I'm moving on. He gave us Karen Bass. He gave us this. And now he's just moved on. When you sit there and you say, and most of the things he does is not about the situation. It's about Jeffrey in the situation.

He's first and foremost. That shit I don't like. I do not like it. And he did try to fuck us over twice. Fuck you. I mean, I can give a fuck about all of this. But get I. You ask me.

But I know. But it's funny in the book. I mean, it's funny when you're, there's a moment where you get back together with Sarah. After, oh, by the way, here's a little something that caught my eye. You mean the breakup with Stott? Yes. Breakup. Okay.

So you're very mad at certain point. No, no. I was depressed. Wait, no, no. Let me finish my sentence. Yeah. You didn't hear my sentence. You were very mad that, I guess it was William Morris, sent Harvey Weinstein, of all people, as their errand boy, to tell you that they were going to buy you, right?

Well, it was... Wasn't he the messenger? Yeah, no. We were, like, a month old, I think it was. Right. He calls up to the peninsula. Shirt, food, everything upside down. And he goes, you're making $10 million.

I've sold the company. You're going over. We've just started the company. You're going over to William Morris. Each one of them is you're going to make $2.5 million. Why him? I don't know. Exactly.

He's not part of William Morris. No, he was at Miramax. So why him? I don't know. Okay. So you're mad that he is this errand boy out of left field. But then when you break up with her, you have your own therapist to it. That was a pussy.

That was the one time. That's like worse than the Harvey Weinstein rule. Oh, horrible. That she got back together with me. She's insane. I was so depressed. Why did you do it to begin with? Because we didn't go public.

I turned 60. COVID was going on. Everything just seemed like the whole world, my whole, everything I worked for. So wouldn't you want to cling to the one good thing? I just, I didn't know where I was. I really kind of was lost. That period in COVID, I was lost. And then six months later, I realized, fuck, this girl, I miss her.

The liberals overdid COVID. They really did. And that's a good example. a little bit. Look how much it fit. It was not necessary to be this fucked up about there's a lot of things. It was a dangerous thing that could be. Wouldn't

it be for you with your earthworms? It sure wouldn't have been for you. So you should have had... I never got COVID. You should have had, of course not, because you fucking do cold plungers and earthworms and what else do you do? Crazy shit that you do. Right. You're up at 3 a.m. like doing

crazy shit, yeah. I mean, I'm like barely turning the light off at 3. am. Right. Okay. So you're going to... Yes, there were things that they did wrong. It had never, it was a novel, it was a, it was a first time virus. They didn't know what they were doing and there was a lot of mistakes made. However, do I, did I, did they need to close the beaches? No. Okay. Do I think that mass at the time what they knew, they were doing the best that they could, okay? Was there a lot of screw-ups? But on the other side, they did get to a vaccine that, I shouldn't say a shot that you had to take on a quarterly or yearly basis. You know, Jonathan Swan was on real time the week before, and he was saying, like, Trump, who always is the luckiest motherfucker. The one thing that is so consistent about his life is good. He's lucky.

It's great luck. Just the inside straight he pulled to win in 2016. Everything. And Jonathan Swan, and I think he's totally right, says, how lucky to have lost the 2020 election, you know? Because, yeah, all this shit hit the fan, and he could blitz blame it on Biden and say, oh, look, were things really that. Because most of his term wasn't with COVID. Yeah. You know, so.

But, I mean. By the way, speaking of the president, who you talk to a lot. I talked to him on Monday. Okay. and you say some things in the book that are almost word for word things I've said. I'm not saying you're stealing from me, although you'd be wise too. But just words like, I can't beef with half my friends and I don't want to hate half the country. That's almost exactly what I said in my last special.

And, you know, talking is my religion. Keep talking. That's what I'm thought of me. It's so interesting to me that Larry David, like, I'm the, devil because I talked to him, but his own agent just talked to him on Monday. Listen, this is your stick with him. I know, but you must recognize the hypocrisy there. Somehow when it's his own agent doing the exact same thing, then we don't play the Hitler card.

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Purity. It's the easiest thing to be. And by the way, you know you're not a political sense. sophisticated when you immediately go to the Hitler card. That's just one way. There's a few others. But, yes, purity, I just can't take it. I can't, more than anything, I can't take it.

And you and I are on the same page. I'm having the conversation with him. And I'm having dinner with him again next week, by the way. Yeah, I'm having conversation with him about this rebate that I think needs to happen for California and for the country. And I think it's going to be a good thing. And he's on board with it. He called me about it first.

And I said to somebody, and it's true. he's 80 years old. This guy, and I don't know if you felt it, he's a workaholic. The guy works, like... Well, in his way. Yeah. He's, and a lot of that work is toward things we don't approve of.

Correct. Oh, no, no, no. Okay, you know. And we'll tell him. Right. And we'll tell him. You see, I'm, when he... I've told him.

It's so weird, you know. After the first dinner, he was... I went back to doing what I do, and, you know, for people who, he probably screamed he said you're a low rating it never stopped he tried to stop me from getting the mark he said he said he only call me because you're the president

I said yes that's true you're the president I got a guy I can get things done but then like he just out of the blue let's have dinner again I was like great and he was like really nice like I promise I won't say bad things about you like I did the last time and I texted back and I said you know what you're the president of the United States

say whatever the fuck you want I'm just glad we're talking. It's like being called a hockey puck by Don Rickles. It's just what he does. Hopefully you can have this. Hopefully you can have this much of the last conversation before a decision. Correct. I agree.

I guarantee you get nothing from not talking. If the odds are low from talking, they're still in the realm of possible. But there are some people you won't talk to. Yes. There's some people I won't talk to. But they're not the president of the United States. Yeah, but there are people that you say to your same. that's a bridge too far.

It blows my mind that there are people in this world and lots of them on the far left who just would turn this opportunity down a private dinner in the White House with the president, just a few people, say whatever you want. You know, I've heard people say, well, you know, I don't like the war. Tell them. You can tell them. You can tell them, and I will. I keep telling people.

He needs more people like us. I agree with you. Not less. You need to talk to him. I will. Yeah. And you do too. I talk to him.

And I'm sure you do. And I'm sure he listens to you. And, you know, not if you, like, call up the phone like you're talking like a Karen on the complete department hotline. No. No. Like, hey, the thing you did. No. But, like, there's a way to talk to Donald Trump.

There just is. Yes. And he's. And that's okay the way you have to talk. Well, I heard people when I did the first one, I heard people say, well, you're humanizing him. Okay, he's a human. I get it. He's a very flawed one.

As we are all under Jesus. Can I especially when you say, I'm just thinking about this, when you say the far left, who are you referring to? Loke? Like what, I mean, what do you? Are you saying, is it, for you, is DSA far left? Of course. Doesn't get any further left than that.

Right. People who, people who, you got, yeah. I don't think they're Democrats. No, they're not. Yeah. And Rom makes the same point. Yeah, I don't think they're Democrat. I think they want to be.

The USA wants to beat Democrats, and Democrats want to beat Republicans. Gaza is a genocide is a lie that they are making everybody say, if you say that, that's far left. You don't know history, you don't know facts. I proved it on my show. Do you think they know who came up with the word genocide? Whoever came up with any side. So genocide is created 1944 by a Jew that went through the Holocaust.

And he came up with the word because there was no word for what it was. And then it was approved by the, I think it was the UN and in 48. And it was a word for what happened to the Jews.

There was, I think, 4 million Jews in Poland ended up 44,000. 3 million, yes. 3 million, yeah. That is a genocide. That is it, that's exactly what I said. And I think they want the word genocide. because it's such an evil word.

They're trying to take a word that was for what happened to Jews. And they wanted to put it on Israel so that they're a bad country and people so that it becomes a non-existent thing. If you believe someone is guilty of genocide, it gives you permission to hate them. Who wouldn't hate a genocides? And I think you've done an amazing job laying out the facts.

The facts. Yeah. I mean, 3% of the population, it's terrible. It's not a genocide. We can have the conversation. Yeah. You can hate Israel. You can hate not Jews.

You can hate not. Just don't change the meaning of the word because the word has... That was created by a Jew. Tremendous power. Yeah. I mean, just go through what side always means. Fratricide, kill your brother. Homicide, kill yourself.

Matricide, kill your mother. Patricide, your father. Genocide, a whole people. Right. and if they wanted to kill a whole people, they certainly have the means to do it. And most of the people who died were because they're an enemy,

not like many other enemies, where they use their own people as shields. Well, I would say the following. You know, I think you think this, like, and I've said this, I gave a speech about Netanyahu. So my brother gave a speech. Oh, I saw that in the book.

And my point of view is, guess what i think they we should free you know gaza it should be free of Hamas from Hamas yes when they say free Palestine like who do you think is oppressing it you and my father was born in palestine before we yeah yeah yeah so all of it was Palestine and the u.n may Palestine when you said Palestine in that era people thought you were talking about a Jew and it was through through Jordan and when the UN decided to give this strip of land, they said, don't fight. Then they captured land. Who gives them back

land? If in Ukraine, they get a plot of land, you know, wherever you want the Ukrainians to win a plot of land. You think they're going to give it back in a war? No, but the Israelis have to get it back. They are consistently asked

to do things. Nobody else is ever asked even to do, like when you're in the middle of a war, feed the enemy. Give them polio shots. Trunk. I don't remember any other enemy doing this. You know, you're in a war.

And I think what they're doing in the West Bank, Netanyahu, is disgusting. It's disgusting what they're doing. Yeah, the West Bank is terrible. It's a terrible. You're right. And I said that. It's bullying. It's more than bullying.

Yeah. It's what happened to Jews in Poland. And we're doing it there. Yeah, yeah. It's disgusting. I agree. And so let's all get off this word because that was a word that Jews created. Stop trying to label.

Right. And let's have the real conversation. As you said, let's have conversations that are from a place of, and I'll have it with anybody. Yeah, but the problem is how. Did El Saeed come to your show? You know, he said he was going to, but we have not been able to, as he had, get a yes, like an actual. I think that would be a great conversation. Oh, I do too.

Oh, I can't wait to have that conversation. recession because the truth is that when we talk about these issues it gets very nitty gritty in the details and we kind of miss I'm sorry but the big picture which is forgetting the Islam of it all I don't know if you're going to convince people who have a religious fervor behind their beliefs of ever really wanting to come to the table it is a doctrine in Islam I mean many believe the whole world needs become Muslim, but certainly any land that used to be Muslim has to be reconquered. Spain.

Many still refer to it as Andalisia, El Andalisia. Really? Yes. I'm talking about Islamists, because that's what it was when it was Muslim for 700 years before it was... I didn't know that. Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't. Well, when the Muslim army that swept out of the desert after Muhammad Zethk in the same,

seventh century, they conquered the whole world in 100 years. And you don't do that with pamphlets. No. Yeah. And they got as far as the Pyrenees. They went all through North Africa, then through Spain. And so Spain was Muslim from basically 700 to 1500. So, you know, there is a belief that that needs to become returned. And I think it's the same thing with places like the way. I think we, you and I agree on one thing. Religious, Extremist are bad. Yeah. But it's not equal how many religious extremists there are in each religion and how extreme they are.

They are more extreme in Islam and there are more of them. That is just a fact. There are absolutely extremist Christians and extremist Jews. Yeah, but there's only 15 million Jews in the whole world. True. We're talking about 1.6, 1.8 billion. people who live in societies that have rules of behavior and often law that are completely incompatible with the West, like women as equal citizens, homosexuality sometimes being illegal.

Yeah, in the Jewish constitution, homosexuality is cool, not in Hamas, not in Gaza. In the Jewish constitution? You know, in our, in our religion, you know, it, you know. Yeah, I mean, the Orthodox in your religion still don't let the women in the same part of the temple, right? That's true. You have to separate, you separate at the wall. No, all religions have it. Yeah.

But it's just disingenuous to say, well, because they all have some of it, it's equal. It's not an equal problem. Yes, there are really weird things that the Jews do, like until recently, a fucking rabbi sometimes bit the end off of a baby's dick and would give him the child herpes. Oh, that I did. What? That's true. We'll be right back. After a word from Cheerios.

So, yeah. Yeah. Did you ever think this is where, like, 10 years ago for a podcasting was like everybody? Did you ever think this would be like? As big as it is? Yeah. People like to hear people. Here's what I'd say.

I talk about in the books. I read this book, Life After Television. by George Gilder. He talks about distribution is going to expand and content's going to expand in different forms of content. It just went from so, this is just part of the continuum of where content has gone.

And you're now in, you have these things called micro dramas. You know, these one minute dramas that mainly for women, you know, and they're, they devouring. So I think this is just part of it and how it's going to evolve with AI

and everything else. Who the fuck knows. That's still like very interesting to you, like where the business is going and to stay ahead of it. Yeah. Because when you stay ahead of it, you can make money at it. Yeah. And then... I have this whole thesis about live. And this is like live. I think live entertainment is the opposite bet of where AI is going. Right. And I do also think the movie intelligence business is going to explode because costs are going to come down because of AI and the movie intelligence. There's going to be more free time. You know, my son Leo, my youngest, he's 23. 24 he works at Polymarket. He goes, you know what they call Thursday, Dad? No, what do they call Thursday? Thursday? No, it's called Baby Friday. And people now, it's four-day work weeks. Thursday night, they're going out. They're booking restaurants. They're booking hotels or leaving town.

And he goes, I bet you very soon, Dad, Wednesday's baby Thursday. Really? Yeah. And so you're just going to have more and more time. You're going to consume more content. Content is going to be podcasts. Content's going to be books. Content's going to be movies, television, micro dramas, live. Can you imagine if we did this live? If I did this? People would go crazy. But like with a good gas?

People would go crazy. Why don't you book it? That's weird. One of the things, one of the things... Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing? No, listen, one of the things we're doing when we officially close ATG, there's a dark night on Monday. We have to wait for the...

No, no, it's six months ago. ATG, right? ATG. Okay, so they're dark on Mondays. they're dark Mondays you know because right yeah and our whole thing is theaters are dark we're gonna on Mondays we're gonna book stand-ups podcasts etc because I agree with you yes you'll come in and you'll do it because I think people are gonna want to see

they would love to see this live I did ATG in college it just made me fall asleep but um okay okay ATG all the way but I think don't you think people are gonna in the theater business want to see a live podcast I do it depends on the one, but this one is not like other ones. And you have to like get that word out there. It really isn't. I spent a lot of money putting this together. There's cameras all over the place.

And we never feel like there's anybody else here. That's just not the feel I get from any other podcast. No, every other, they're right in your face. It's just a talk show. It's okay. I'm not putting them down. I'm just saying, would you do this life? If I only had someone to sell this.

Would you do this life? Somebody who was like promoting me. Who cared? Protecting me. Thinking about me. Would you do this life? If it was the right person, yes. And it's...

It means the right guests. The right guest. It's a 50-50 for me. Don't you think it would change with an audience? Exactly. That's the whole reason why I love this is because it is just the most intimate. It is what I've tried to do from the very beginning in my career.

How do I get the most... real conversation. That goes anywhere. I mean, somebody said on our anniversary show, he gets the green room conversation on the show. Yeah. Okay, I'm glad I, people think, I want to go even further.

That's what this is. This is further. This is no different than if there was no coverage. You're sitting at home and you and having a conversation. I can't think of one thing I said to you. Or you said to me, which is the definition, I'm a great guest, that we wouldn't have just said.

Yeah. Because we did forget. But, like, yes, would that, of course, for the same reason why Margaret Mead said when she studied native tribes, like just the act of studying them changes their behavior. Right.

You know. So the act of, if you had this and you had the audience, it would definitely change this. That I know for sure. Hopefully you have a guess that would go for it. But could it retain 80%. I think it could. I think it could.

I even know if the money was spread. You would take the 80. You are talking to the last two guys at America who care about money. I love the liberals out here. Did you go to the George Lucas Museum opening? What? Oh, you have beef with him, too? No, I just would never do that.

Okay, why? I mean, of all the things to get the... I've never seen one Star Wars movie. I feel like... Have you seen a Star Wars movie? Be honest. Be honest. Officer, could I just please make my gaze?

Yes, please. I feel bad about this. Because I think George Lucas is a great guy, and he may have said a nice thing about me once or twice. And unlike you, I have tried to watch the Door Wars, and I just cannot. I don't get it, but I so give respect to success. You know, there's lots of things that are massively successful, and let's just say it's my flaw.

How about this? I think it looks amazing. It does? The museum? The museum, yes. I know. It looks incredible. It does.

It does. And I'm sure it is incredible. I just always think when they do something like that, and I think it costs like $2 billion, and it's every liberal in town. I'm like, aren't you the people are always talking about how the poor people need more? But yet we have the money to build like this monument to how great an artist we are. I mean, I'm sure it's geniusly done. It looked incredible.

What actual change in positive change in life is it going to bring? Maybe it inspires someone to be an artist, but people in show business are so full of themselves about how important art is. One of your greatest lines. I think you were going to the gold. Go on. Going to the golden gloves and they were wearing the pin. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was going to change something.

Well, it's like, I mean, it's like MAGA hats for liberals, you know. But I just never, that's not my type of movie. And Marty Scorsese told me great stories about when he was writing it, George. It was incredible to hear. It's just not my type of movie, so I've never seen it. So, you know, I'm not sure I'd ever go to the museum. I don't know. I do want to go to the Geffen Museum, the New Geffen Museum.

the New Geffen Museum. He's someone you're not beefing with. No. He's been incredible with me. Yeah. He has always, one of the great things about David is, like, you ask him a question, and he just distills it down to, like, the right answer. He has one of the great lines.

I mean, I've been told this line, I think. Like, in this business, you pay for loyalty, and sometimes you get it. Yeah. Yeah. And that would be... That's true. Yeah, true.

Almost every business. And these people... But again, back to punching up. Like, the people you beef with, I never feel bad for them. That is what really is a saving grace of this book. Of a guy who you think is so full with rage, and there is a lot of rage. But it's funny rage. But, like, I don't care.

Like, Jim Wyatt, I think I may have been with ICM when Jim... Maybe when you were there. In the 90s? Weren't you there for a minute? I was there. Didn't you go there from... I was there, 92? Yeah, it could have been...

93. 93, 93 to 95. Because Bernie Brilstein's daughter was a Lee Brillstein. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I was there when she was there. Okay, well, then you were there when I was there, I think, because she was my age. Well, I was about this big. I was in...

I know. So was I. Yeah. This is the 90s. And you were just on the road? No, I had done sitcoms in the 80s. I came out here in 83 and I did a Tonight Show. Here's a new performing monkey.

And then he'd wave you, he'd wave you. All that bullshit seems like from the Civil War era. I mean, you know, to this day, if I hear like a band, you know, like the kind of band he had, start sweating. Because I just go right back to Stan. behind the curtain, you know, like waiting for the curtain. How nervous were you when you...

Well, of course you're nervous because it's a Tonight Show and Johnny. Do you remember what your act was? One time I fucked up real bad and they were real mad at me. I did jokes about Reagan and Fred de Cordova thought he was Reagan's best friend and I got yelled at after the show and I thought my career was over. Did Johnny not like it? Did Johnny not like it? Johnny, I'm sure, is the one who saved me. Because they were mad at me, the producer and the segment producer.

And I think he was the only one who could have stepped in and said, well, you know, comics, young comics. I remember when I made a joke about it. What was the routine that you did when they said, okay, this guy we want to bring him? He had been shot. I guess I thought that was funny. And I don't know.

They had to cut two minutes out of the show. Wow. Yeah. It was okay. Pete Barbudi did an extra number. Did you still watch, like, religiously? It was everything. I remember, you know.

It was everything. We would jump in my parents' bed, all three boys, and, you know, when they let us stay up late. And you would, of course, you would watch Johnny. We had the same experience without the bed. That's a little weird. Oh, yeah, my parents are now going to get arrested. We turned out so badly. But I do, yeah.

But I do remember gathering around the Magnavox TV. Yeah. It was that thick. Yes, it was a piece of furniture. Yeah, yeah. The TV was a piece of furniture. Yeah. And the antennas.

I remember, yeah, with the antenna. And like, Don Rickles was on. Like, it was a big thing in the summer, because in the summer you could stay up late. And in the summer, Johnny took the show out to California. Remember that? I don't remember that. Oh, yes, like in the early 70s. So the show was still in New York until I think 72.

But they would go to California for three weeks. You know, the guest list, of course. It was great. You get all the stars who you couldn't have in New York. And then, of course, he did it. I love at social seeing those old clips and the old standoffs and the people on the... I mean, it was just... It was it.

Yeah. It was... But I remember watching... Like, if Don Rickles was on... I have that memory of like, come on, he's coming on, you know, like, everybody was okay. Gather around. You know, you know. I know.

Or, like, I remember when Bob Hope would have a special because my parents are World War II era and both were in it. So, like, he was the World War II comic, and they didn't like the way his politics got conservative, but it was still Bob Hope. And when he did a special, which he demanded to do four times a year, and NBC was like his, you know. Oh, no, that was the whole. I mean, Johnny fucking hated him for that, oh, yes. Because he took him off. No, because I remember being on the show with Bob Hope as a guest. And Johnny bitching to me backstage before the show went on.

Maybe my fondest memory. About Bob Hope. About, you know, because he was an 800-pound gorilla at NBC. He was the only thing that was bigger than Johnny. So he didn't ask when he could be on the Tonight Show. He did cinema. And he didn't do any preparation. his appearances were actually terrible.

He was just lazy and old and wouldn't, you know, like, it was just terrible. I've told this story before, but like one time I was on him, and Johnny was like, okay, we've got to do something to get something out of this guy. He just had a bunch of stills from his career. You know, here I am in... Vietnam. Road to Rio, hereby in Vietnam.

And one of them was Bob Hope in a sketch dressed as the pope with the big pope hat. And Johnny shows it looking to Bob for comment, and Bob goes, yeah, there I was the Pope. Thank you, Bob. We couldn't notice that. Insider story that adds so much. You know, in Pete Berg's movie, Mosquito Ball, which I hope you see soon. Is that out?

He's coming out on Netflix. That's your oldest friend. That's your boy. Peter Burr. There's because it's. Couldn't even get him up. this show? I think he's coming on this show or the show. He wants to come on the show. So there's a, there's a clip of Bob Hope when he went to Japan. And when to go during the war, you know,

Vietnam? No, Japan in World War II. Oh, World War II. Yeah. And it is incredible. He gets the live footage of Bob. It's crazy. Crazy good? Yeah, you can't believe. No, he was, he was, in his He said he was good. Oh, yeah. And he went to all these guys and, I mean, it was just... He lived to be, I think, 100. Oh, really? Yeah.

I mean, he was, you know, phoning it in, but he was so legendary those last 20 years. Reportedly, I'd say reportedly, don't sue me, but I've read it. Got a hooker every night. Like, he was on the road every night. Wow. Doing, like, charity gigs that he was paid for. It wasn't like charity. He was getting paid?

Well, I've gotten paid for charity gigs. People will pay you, and they'll make more money. They'll still make a profit, I think. But he was then getting hookers every night? I mean, this is what I... Alleged. This is alleged. But yes, I think that's, you know, he was a hound right up until the end.

The one thing I liked about him. No. But, I mean, we shouldn't gossip. I mean, he's an American legend. And my parents, you know, had mixed feelings about both him and Frank Sinatra, because they were the two World War II guys. And then they both became Reaganites. Oh, yeah.

And my parents... Personally, I'm proud of them. I'm sure it was the same in your house. Nixon, Reagan. No, not... No. Was there anybody more powerful than Sinatra and at the time, you know, Johnny Carson? I mean, those two guys were...

I mean, they were. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean, at his height, I think Johnny got 17 million. Then. At 11.30 at night. But, I mean, that just speaks of how much the world has changed. Of course, there was no video games.

There was no internet. No, there was three networks. There was nothing else to do if you weren't asleep. Yeah. You could watch him. You could watch the other guy who was always a sacrificial lamb who was going to not succeed, Dick Cabot, whoever they put up against him, Alan Thick,

you know, lots of people, talented people, but a not-so-great one, Jerry Lewis. You know, anybody, Joan Rivers, whatever, and Johnny would just easily dispatch them all, you know. He had his thumb on all of America. He was like... Oh, that he was incredible. Well, he was cosmopolitan in a way that very much appealed to...

He was from Kansas. Where is he from? Nebraska. Nebraska, yeah. But he was cosmopolitan in a way that appealed to the coasts, you know, and the hip people. And his jokes were just touching the line sometimes. Yeah. But he was a Nebraska kid. So that he spoke to the whole country. That's what they

don't do anymore. That's what I keep still trying to do is speak to the whole country. The whole country doesn't want to speak together. A lot of them don't. And then they could handle it together. But lots of people from both camps still want to talk to me. And that's not true of a lot of people anymore. No. You know, and, you know, as I said before, we're on the same page there. You've got to talk to people, and it's just, it's exhausting hating. Isn't it?

Well, here's what I... Who would know better than you? Here's what I would... It is exhausting. It's exhausting. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the things in the book I talk about. There was a period of time when I realized I cannot keep on going with rage. I can't keep on going with hate.

I can't keep on going. There's sometimes, like, I have to do it, and I go after, Kanye or other people, but I can't keep on doing it if I want to get, if I want to grow and get bigger and feel better. And so, you know, I was on a path to kind of try and do that. And so I didn't, I'm not there. You got to keep on working on it. I don't want you to be there yet. If you're still working, you've got to be somewhat.

Rachel. No, I mean, somewhat. You know, it's like, one of the funniest things I've got to say in the book is it's a little, it's a book within a book, really. or it's something. It deserves more than just the space you give it about when you are first portrayed as Ari Gold, the character from Entourage,

which is, of course, everybody, even the people in Nebraska knew it was based on you. Your Ari, it was Ari. And then this mental thing that you go through where, like, wait, am I more this character than the one? I'm imitating the guy on TV who's imitating me. Is that me?

Was it leading? Did it take a TV show for me to see who I really am? This very weird thing, right? It was really weird. And the real entourage guys, like the one that the characters were based on, would actually hang around your office? That's crazy. I said to Doug Allen, the creator. Yeah, the creator show.

Did I bring a phone into my family? No, that was me. I was like, because I didn't realize. Did I talk to you about this? And then people would ask me, hug it out, bitch. And I was like, okay, I'll hug it out, bitch. And like, it was leaving. I was following.

I was following. You don't know whether your character is more real than you. But it did help in my business. I noticed that, too. At one point you said something like, you wanted to get this deal or something. You know, like a performing monkey, I did my best Ari Gold. Yeah.

But, you know, that's the worst thing you ever did. I mean, it's not, you know, yeah, you took advantage of... It was part of the schick. It's like a pretty girl taking advantage of being pretty. I mean, it gets so much hate. Have you noticed that? What? Pretty girls.

Like, it's like almost politically incorrect to be pretty anymore in America. It's like, what about the girls who aren't so pretty? How's it? Oh, you're going to make them feel. bad. You don't feel that way? No. Watch TV late at night. You know what I want to see late at night? Like before I go to bed. So I always watch TV before I go

to bed. What are you watching these days? Well, you know, many things. Like a movie that came, that was in the theaters recently, would be my first choice because they come on voodoo. I guess that's Fandanga, whatever it is. It's like, I love that. I used to do that in hotels when I was on the road. You know, a movie that was out there. I'll keep waiting for The Odyssey to come on, but maybe that'll have to be a little longer,

but most of them come on, or something I don't even know. I never even knew about it, but they made it. Somebody gave money for it, and I watch it, and it's like, oh, this is pretty good. You know, I like this. I could see why the public, it wasn't their thing, but I liked it. It was a historical thing. I just watched one about the Peasins Revolt of 1381. Now, I could, Andrew Garfield's got quite a cast.

Is it good? Yeah, for me, I mean, but most people are not. me I see 1381 and I say you have my money now you know that's you you you're gonna tell me so I don't know what I'm gonna lose something I'm hard already 1381 but yeah it's it's if you like so where is the store where where is it where pretty women where my what am I watching so but before so like I watch I watch more than one thing I've been on a great attention span so I got like about an hour maybe an hour and a half to watch TV it's a last thing before I shut out the light not the way

you're supposed to do it. I know. I understand. Blue blocker glasses. Maybe that helps a little. Maybe it helps nothing. But anyway. Aren't they supposed to be red? Is it blue? Is it blue? Yeah, blue. We'll lock out the blue. Okay. Whatever it is, I'm going to do it. Because I like to watch Steve. It's the, you know, the passive time of the day. So yeah, there's always, I mean, they talk about this town dying. Maybe the town is dying, but not the entertainment industry. There's more shit than ever on streaming. And it's going to be more and more than it's ever been. Crazy. How many things, I do not lack for things to watch.

Or I could go back, I'm watching. No, but where is this place where pretty women are getting killed? Okay. Nowhere, and that's the problem. If you go through, like this, so like I watch one thing and I watch another thing, okay, now I want to go to sleep. The last thing I want to see before I go to bed is a pretty face. Now maybe that makes me a pervert who it is, fuck you, I don't care. I like to see pretty women.

I like them. I'm a heterosexual. There you got me. So, like, there's 50 movie channels, from 501 on my thing to, like, 555. If I scroll through all those, very often, I cannot find one pretty face. Really?

Yeah. It's like, they just, you know, and then, you know, it's like, sometimes you do, oh, my God, there's Karen Knightley. And what's the one with the classic one she did? you know, with Mr. Darcy, pride and prejudice. So good.

Yeah. And you think, you think now there's potentially. Yes. I see so many parts. It's like, really, you couldn't put a cute girl in that one. Would that kill you? It's just wrong. I'm going to now pay attention.

I'm going to do that tonight. I'm going to do that tonight. Don't tell the way. No, okay. She won't be watching it. You know what I saw last night? Norm's doc you know they did a documentary on Norm MacDonald yeah oh I loved him

Wow what it was last 15 minutes I haven't got to it was kind of crazy I didn't know him that well I mean I watched all you know wow what a life what a what a comedian oh yeah but what about the life I don't know I mean it seems like it was very secretive yes so I just knew you can never figure out like I didn't realize it's he didn't graduate high school I didn't go to college but he did go to college and There's all these things that, like, there was a curtain around him. Look, most comics, we know each other. You know, maybe we didn't. You're hanging out before you go up. Not always, like he and I know.

We didn't start exactly at the same time in the same city. But over the years, yeah, you get to sort of be, it's very quick. It's like two cops meeting. They know what the world is. So for each of them. And the same with comics. Him, I have no idea. I don't think I ever, I remember a long conversation.

It was just all about the work and who are you? Right. I know you could be Batman. And I didn't understand the whole thing that he got very heavy. What? At the end? Yeah. He got like from where I knew him to.

But maybe that was part of a treatment he was on? I don't know. I haven't finished the last 15 minutes. I fell asleep. I'm going to finish it tonight. But that was, you have to see it. It's on Netflix. So why do you think the work?

worms do it because like so here's here's your life your life unpasteurized goat yogurt i think is probably here's what it is you um to say healthy you need less and less inflammation in your body there's an answer to that that's not exactly that which is inflammation is a symptom yes it can be very bad but why do you get inflammation because there's some place your body wants to get more too. Inflammation is widening the road so that you can get more of the good stuff. But if you can reduce the time by which your body is inflamed, right? If you don't need the road to be widened, that's the goal. Right. You don't need it. So in itself is not the problem.

No, I agree with that. Okay. So the vagus nerve does not go from the brain to the gut. What the nerve? The Vegas nerve. Vegas. So there's a nerve. that travels from your... That's named after Vegas? It's not spelled that. It's not spelled that way. How is it spelled?

I'm dyslexic. You really actually asked me to spell it? Okay. So it goes from your gut to your brain. And the problem in our lives right now is our guts are too... Everything around us is just a little bit too clean. Like everything that we eat, everything is a little bit too clean. And what we eat...

Too clean? Clean? where our bodies are a lot cleaner and we have started to with all the things happening in our gut kind of the body's starting to kind of eat itself because you're too clean too clean this is a very very different theory than i've ever heard that we're too clean yeah even the people who eat McDonald's all the time actually all those foods actually the one thing kennedy is doing right trying to get rid of all that i think food that has all those but how can't you're can those people be too clean? How can even... Because it's just not healthy for your gut. I know, but why too clean? I think of this is too dirty. Just from what I'm breathing in the air, just stuff I can't even avoid. The world is toxic, no? No? The world is not toxic. Well, the world is toxic, but how our bodies are... There's constant cleaning of everything. We're just, you need your body not to eat at itself, eat at things that are not healthy for you,

that they go after, that they're not clean. That's the worms? Yeah, and the worms kind of create instead of a... Because your body's like, this idiot ate a worm. I've got to go kill this thing. So the body kind of doesn't have to eat at itself. It actually takes care of all the things that are not proper in it. You don't want a leaky gut.

Do you have a leaky gut? You don't want one. It's what you eat that causes a leaky. Well, I won't eat that. Those are things that cause inflammation and cause the problem. So what you want to do is kind of keep your body healthy in the way that the things around us are not permitting us to do. Okay, but you know, you could literally spend every minute of every day doing something for your health. I spend about three hours doing that.

To me, that is a lot. See, that's just a different choice from two different images. Yeah, but I feel good about it. I know you do. And it includes cold plunges and saunas. Saunas, yeah. Light beds. Light beds?

Yeah. A bed with light. Yeah. That reduces inflammation also. You're really big on this inflammation. Yeah, I am. Well, you look very healthy. Thank you.

I mean, you do. And I agree with you. You need about. you try and get about seven to eight hours asleep. You do? Yeah, hard. I don't know. Can you get through the night?

No. You're hard. Yeah. When you say get through the night. So I'll get to bed at like 10 o'clock. I try to get to five. Not easy all the time because I get to. 5 a.m.?

Yeah. Or 30. Oh, that's when you get up. Yeah. No, that's, well. You go to bed it. Well, I try to get into bed at one. That's when my, you have one of those mattresses that cools.

And then you do the hour of TV? Then I watch TV. Yes. I mean, re-watch. But you don't get up until 10 or 11. It's fat. I mean, well, I think it's important if you can, and we're very privileged people, to get up without an alarm. That's what I...

I never get up with an alarm. Really? Never. Never. But you also wake up when you're supposed to? Yeah, get up at 4.30, 5 o'clock. Holy fuck. Okay.

Well, I have to sometimes set the alarm for noon. Could you sleep past eight hours? Well, I in bed past eight hours because it depends on how much time I need in bed to get that sleep. That's the problem. It can easily take me an hour to fall asleep. And then get up in the middle of the night and not even... How do you do the show, this, read all the books you have to read? How do you do all of that?

Well, I mean, first of all, I'm not on the road anymore. I have way more time than I ever used to. This takes only the time I'm doing it. Do I look like I'm prepared? No, but I mean, but you have to, if it's a book, you have to read the book. If it's for your show, there's always people on with the book, you have to read all those books. No, there's a lot of reading and a lot of writing. I do it all week.

I don't go out in a week. I mean, I'm working all the time. I just work different hours. You know, I may get up at 11 or noon, but, you know, I'm going to put in a full day. I mean, look, the one good thing that happened after COVID was I only go to the office one day a week, which I love, that we stay connected that way. But we don't need. We have one Zoom meeting, and the rest of it, I do it home. You do your stick here.

Send stuff back and forth to the writers, and, you know, we've got it down to a fine oil machine. But, you know, I put in the time. And I love it. I love it. I mean, look, there's careers and there's jobs. We've both had jobs, like delivering shit without GPS in the dark with a fucking map on your lap. Job. I once was looking at the map and drove off the road. I could have. I'm lucky it wasn't into a telephone pole, but it was definitely right off the road. But then careers, you know, people who have careers are lucky because that means sure you work, you work hard, but you like. a career you like, a job you have to, because you like.

And it's bringing you, I say to somebody, somebody always said, I said, would you have a life of purpose and meaning or a life of pleasure? I'd rather have purpose and meaning, it actually gives me pleasure. And, you know, this whole thing about, I just want a pleasure of a life. No, it's not pleasure, just hanging out. All right, we have a clip of your next beef. Who would you like to, would you like to, before you... I don't know.

I don't need any help. I can figure that one out. Before you go, would you like to plug hating anybody? Who would you like? No, I'm good. There's a long list. It must be promoting. I should get in the ring with the UFC.

I'm telling you, all these guys who you didn't like the Jim Wyatt's and they just all seemed like boat shoe wearing, you know, just the kind of, I don't know. They just, the way you portray them, Eisner and Mr. Ovitz and just these. compass, I mean, you can be an agent and it makes you a great person. It could also just pump you up to be such a prick. I mean, a lot of what you're talking about doing in the early part of the book is like you wanted to change the agency culture. Yeah. You think you did? I think I did. Yeah. It's not perfect. So your place isn't full of those types? No. I wouldn't put up with them. All right. Well, I hope you're not planning to hand me off to any of them. No, do I not? I text you, and hopefully enough. I'm seeing you on Friday

to how much I love the show. I know. All right, thank you. All right. That was fun. Did you have fun? Does it look like a head? Yeah.

Who could act back?