Club Random with Bill Maher - Brian Tyler Cohen | Club Random

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

Bill Maher and YouTube star Brian Tyler Cohen dive into the chaos of modern politics in a freewheeling conversation covering everything from wrestling and weed to identity politics and the Iran deal. They debate whether Democrats are too focused on checking boxes to win elections, break down Trump’s psychological warfare, and label one rising Democratic star “a walking campaign ad for Republicans." Stick around for a wild analogy that somehow combines wrestling, lactose intolerance, and socialism. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠ Support our Advertisers: Get 50% off plus FREE shipping on your first box at ⁠https://www.factormeals.com/random50off⁠ and use code random50off Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: [e-mail] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And you attribute this to Judaism. This must be my job. We can't have milk. I have no gastrointestinal system. I'm allergic to it. You with your show and getting out of bed at three in the morning, stoned out of your mind, your poetry report, doesn't have thoughts. Hi.

Good to meet you. Excuse my laughter. No problem. I broke my fuck you finger. I've been one of those months. You ever have one of those months where you're just like all these nagging little injuries? Not the main, just the things that make your life annoying because you're like. I've gotten to the point where I have to be careful when I'm like shampooing that I don't do it too hard or I'll like

I'll like tweak my neck, you know, I wrestled like 20 years ago at this point Oh really all throughout high middle school high school a little bit in college just cuz you like guys just because I like guys Yeah, apparently it's a sport too And and like man it seemed fine at the time But does it wreak havoc on your body after that? Man, when I was in high school, I remember we had to do wrestling. It was like one of the, there was like winter sports

and like when I got, and that was one of the winter ones, you know, like one week basketball, next week wrestling. And God, did I dread those weeks. I mean, I know it's a sport. I was kidding about the guy thing, although the Greeks would have something to say about that. But the idea of getting on the ground with another sweaty man and just wrestling with him. And that's what it's wrestling.

Yeah, I mean, look, if it was a gym class activity, it would have been a lot less fulfilling. Yes. You know, I was lucky enough to be on some pretty good teams in school, and so we traveled across the country. And so it was great. And you learn a lot of discipline.

And like, you know, I mean, it's the hardest sport in the world. Sitting there eating lettuce for like 10 months out of the year so that you can keep your weight down. Yeah. And taking XLACs. Yeah. I remember the wrestlers in our... The kids would take XLACs. I remember the wrestlers in our, the kids would, they would take XLACs to make weight. We would have guys that would hold bottles

and just spit in bottles all day because you like might get a tenth or two tenths of a pound of like water weight after the full day. Or you'd go and run, put a garbage bag on you. I'm surprised they didn't give blood. Yeah, I mean, you know, it got like... I gave blood the other day. You probably, a pint of blood probably weighs.

Hey, any way to get down and wait, granted you generally want to keep as much blood as you could because you're gonna be on the mat 10 minutes later, but you know. Wow, but it just seemed boring besides being gross and sweaty and another man. It just seemed boring because, I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but there was like four moves. Like a sit-out and a this and a that.

And like, you knew they were even, you do it to them or they do it to you. And it was just, it's just grunting. And it was like taking a shit with another person. That's what it reminded me of. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're like deep in it and it's your sport, then it becomes just like anything else, right? But...

You didn't keep up with it. No. You're not wrestling guys now. There's not a whole lot of like post-college opportunities for wrestling. Good to have you here. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, right. It's something, kind of like pickleball. Uh-uh, no. Like you just say to a boy, hey, guys, why don't we get on the mat with each other this week? Yeah. So you know, bailed on that and actually moved out here to work in the entertainment industry.

Oh, after wrestling. Yeah, after college. Of which wrestling was a very small part. Right. Well, if you want to be on the floor with guys, there's a couple of directors I could recommend hanging out with where I'm pretty sure that would happen. Smooth transition, right, from wrestling

to West Hollywood living. To Bryan Singer's parties. Did I add that name right? No, you got it right. That's it. Is that the guy? I mean, they're not going to sue us, right? His reputation proceeds, say again?

They're not going to sue it. I mean, that was in the paper. No, I don't think you can sue over the fact that Bryan Singer had parties. And those were the kind of parties. It did seem like they were. Now, look, I also think it's as politically incorrect as it is to say it.

I just...and it doesn't excuse, you know, really bad behavior. But to pretend that the gay world and the straight world are the same is naive. They're not. They're just not. Yeah, I mean, look, like, you know, my best friend is gay. I officiated his wedding with his husband, and, you know, my best friend is gay. I officiated his wedding with his husband, and, you know, now I've got my cred. I've established myself as an ally.

I did too, by the way. I also was at a gay wedding. You know, it's interesting because in the entertainment industry, I think there's so much focus on, there has been so much of a focus for so long on like, on exploiting the differences. And now I think there's a major focus on like,

okay, you can have a gay couple, but that's not gonna be, like you can still have a gay couple in the same storyline that you would have for a straight couple. And that's, you know, a new thing in TV and film now, because usually the whole, like the fact that those characters were gay

would be the whole storyline, as opposed to now it's just like they're gay, but that's not relevant to the story. That's the kind of progress we make that I'm always complaining the left doesn't acknowledge. They don't want to acknowledge progress because it somehow makes you purer and a better person if you constantly

Insist that things are worse than ever. No, I'm they're not there. They're better than ever and things like that prove it Yeah I think there's not a whole lot of incentive to continue fighting for progress if you don't Get a few moments to celebrate the wins that you've already notched. You know what I mean? Big ones. Yeah, totally. I mean, I've been around longer than you have. And trust me, the country is somewhat unrecognizable from the one, certainly the one I grew up in. Yeah.

I grew up in New Jersey. Me too. All white town. That was just the way it was. Where in Jersey? Bergen County. OK. And of course, this is where the liberals live.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's where the liberals were in the 60s. You know, yeah. That's what was wrong, and that's where we were. And it's just, I mean, it's just, you couldn't even imagine a show like Friends now. Yeah. If you pitched a show, okay, there's six white,

white, stop, stop, come in again, come in again and pitch this again. What'd you say? Is an Asian man in a wheelchair good? I'm there. Of course, they always go too far, so there's just way too much box checking before they even write the script. They have to check the boxes sometimes. Well, you saw, did you see the studio?

Yes. Yeah, where they kind of made fun of that one episode where they were trying to figure out who should be, I think the movie was about Kool-Aid, right? It was the Kool-Aid movie. And so you don't want too many, well, if there's no black representation in the Kool-Aid movie, and then there's too much representation, and then you have a Kool-Aid movie. And so you don't want too many, well, if there's no black representation in the Kool-Aid movie, and then there's too much representation, and then you have a Kool-Aid movie where it's only black people. The way that was a genius episode,

I'm remembering it now, because they work their way to a place that was completely opposite of where they were intending to go, which was a, I don't know if Seth Rogen, I'm sure he does, my thought of him, I may be wrong, is that he's super woke, but that was not a super woke thing to do.

That was a sly, brilliant sort of commentary on when that shit goes too far. That they worked themselves all the way back to, what was it, that now it's everybody's black and so it looks, it was something. Now you have a coolly movie with an entirely black cast to what was it that now it's everybody's black and so it looks With an entirely blast black care black cast and who the executives that greenlit a cool it them the cool With certain steps along the way like first it was just gonna be

Like the I think it was like ice cube sidekick was black Yeah, so then oh no, that's not good, because what are you saying? That blacks have to just be sidekicks? Can't be the leading man. Right, and then so they just kept working, they're caught in their own head. Yeah, and just spiraling. Spiraling. Yeah, I mean it's interesting to see, the entertainment industry,

when I first moved out here, which was, man, 15 years ago at this point, yeah, it was a totally different industry. No Jews? No Jews, yeah. If Hollywood needed one thing, it was like, where are all the Jews around here? When are we going to be able to break in the Jews?

It was funny because, you know, obviously I experienced all of, you know, filtering and figuring out which roles I can audition for and I was a new actor. So it's like what smaller roles are going to, back then there were still a lot of, pretty much all of the leading cast members were white. So they would fill the minorities with the co-stars and guest star roles. So if you're a young white kid who wanted to move out here,

you're probably not going to get those roles. So it's tough to break in, you know, because they still wanted Brad Pitt to be the leading man and George Clooney and all that stuff. Now the whole industry is definitely changed. But, I mean, I've been in the industry in 10 years. Very often works in reverse. And I'm not even complaining about that, you know? I mean, turnabout's fair play.

For the longest time, it didn't work the other way. Now, as always with racial matters. I mean, I have a really good friend who is Indian, like a dear friend of mine who's Indian, and the roles that he would get were like all the terrorists in the post-9-11 movie. That's all he could book, and he's like, and he's a brilliant guy, and he's a great actor, and it would just be like just the terrorists in the post-9-11 movie. That's all he could book. And he's a brilliant guy, he's a great actor, and it would just be like, just the terrorists

in those movies. And so there's a great silver lining. But that's not now. No, it's not. My mother was always- There's a great silver lining where now- Let's live in the year we're living in. Yeah, like now you get to see that talent

that was relegated to like, the terrorists, terrorists terrorists one terrorists two on the plane, right? So, you know, there's a but that is something that again is infuriating about The far left I would say the call them whatever they wanted this Not the woke the stupid woke like whoopie Goldberg lover, but when she said a couple of weeks ago that being black was like the same as being a woman in Iran. It's like, yeah, 1920, but not today. By the way, I was just watching this series, I guess it's a couple of years old, Tehran.

Have you seen it? It's on Apple. No. It'd be a good way to get a little education on the subject. It's interesting. Look, we're in Los Angeles. There's a military force deployed in this city and granted- Not on the same level at all. Not on the same level, of course.

Not wrong. I agree. But I've seen them in this city and it's weird to see, I mean, I've seen them. I've seen them in this city. And it's weird. It's weird to like see, I mean, first of all, to see any type of police force in Los Angeles is bad enough. I mean, it's just a bad idea to get the people used to seeing tanks and military vehicles on the street. That is one thing that's always made this country great, is that no tanks on the street. As bad as it got, no tanks. We don't want to see the street. That is one thing that's always made this country great, is that no tanks on the street.

As bad as it got, no tanks. We don't want to see the tanks. That's not for Main Street. And now, it's just one of the many things I said when Trump got elected. I said, I'm not going to pre-hate anything, but I keep a list of what I hate and what I don't hate. And there's some things on the don't hate list,

although the execution is never the right. But ideas like, should Europe pay for their defense? Yeah, not wrong. Should the border be organized instead of just open? Of course, certain things. But on the hate list, which is still quite an extensive list, that's just one of the big ones. I do not want military parades.

I do not want the army playing cops. It's just a bad like. Even on the don't hate list, when you have, okay, having Europe pay their fair share, it's like this would be a good opportunity to celebrate some wins, but he's so ham-handed with the way that he does all of his international affairs that like you get into office and the first thing you do

is start threatening to annex or invade Canada and Greenland and Panama. And then you think that you created some charm offensive where you have 90 countries in 90 days and that amounts to like Vietnam. You think to trade deal with Vietnam and can't figure out why nobody else is running to the negotiating table. But have you noticed that the Greenland thing, this kind of just got forgotten? Yeah, you know and Canada It was like he said he's a different kind of cat

I mean I got to tell you he just is a different kind of cat and he's not going anywhere for at least another three and a half years and The other party has no power You know just to go Gretchen Whitmer and pretend they can't see you there. Not the right strategy. And as far as the don't hate lists, one of my big ones was always, or the hate list was standing there with Putin and taking his side. My point about like he's not going anywhere

for three and a half years, the unpredictability factor, you're just gonna have to accept that and make the best of it, as opposed to just writing the millionth editorial about, I'm just so not interested in this. I hate Trump more than you do contests. It's not productive. It's not helping. It's not getting anywhere. It's not doing anything for the country. I'm for like, you know, actually

making this country work better. And that does not include just ignoring. Yeah, I think in large part, once we recognize the extent to which so much of what he does is a deliberate strategy, exactly to your point, I mean, is he going to annex Greenland? Is or isn't. It is a deliberate strategy to distract you from, I mean, Steve Bannon's whole shtick is that he's flooding the zone with shit, right? And so once you can figure out, okay, what is there to distract you so that you're not talking about the main thing versus what is the main thing?

I disagree with that because I think you're giving him in a way too much credit. I don't think there's that kind of thought that goes into it. I think he's just a cat who, like, you know, he lives on his phone like teenagers. Like, I've seen it. And just errant synapses fire and he just does, just acts.

He's an idea guy. Like somebody is, he's a people person. He talks to a lot of people. That's not the worst thing in the world. It would be the worst thing if it was only the ass kissers. And it's probably mostly them. But I think he just likes a wide array. It's a lot of not what I read. It's a lot of what I heard and people are saying.

And he just, you know, he's an idea guy. Like let's take Kremlin, let's reopen Alcatraz, let's, hey, let's open Alcatraz on Greenland. Talk about ideas. I mean, maybe, okay, so maybe it's not a, maybe these things are not deliberate, but I think it still lends itself to this idea. It does. It's not that Steve, but it's not that Steve Bannon made him into a guy who floods the long machine.

No, he knows how to exploit. Steve Bannon found a guy who naturally floods his own machine. That's how it happened. And so I think the onus, I mean, look, for folks like me who are on the left, the onus then becomes how can we most effectively filter through that stuff and keep our eye on the main things? And that becomes difficult at times when there's 10 different things going on at once. Well, first of all, be honest.

Don't just be partisan. Just don't be like, don't be, I mean, you do what you want. You're very successful. It's not my way exactly. I mean, I will always call it as I see it, no matter what it is, and I don't care who likes it or doesn't, that's my bond with the audience. It's worked for me pretty well. But it is in a way harder to do.

But just to take an example, tariffs. Now, I remember I, along with probably most people, were saying at the beginning, oh, you know, by the 4th of July, somebody had to think how the country was, the economy was going to be tanked by then. And I was kind of like, well, that seems right to me, but that didn't happen. Now, it could happen tomorrow. I'm just saying that's reality. So let's work first from the reality of that, not from I just hate Donald Trump.

Because that's boring and doesn't get us anywhere. And leads you to dishonesty. Because the truth is, I don't know what his strategy is. But look, the stock market is at record highs. I know not everybody lives by the stock market. But I also drive around. I don't see a country in a depression at all. I see people out there just living their lives.

And I would have thought, and I got to own it, that these tariffs were going to fucking sink this economy by this time, and they didn't. So how do we deal with that fact? Because that's the fact. Yeah, I think first is, and I've learned this the hard way, not to make predictions about what's going to happen because it's really fucking difficult to predict anything. And if I was good at predicting things, Hillary would have been the president in 2016 and I wouldn't have sold my Netflix stock back in 2010, but here we are. I think the way that that's kind of exposing itself right now is with the Epstein stuff.

You had all these Republicans that were clamoring because they thought that Trump and- Okay. I'm on vacation a little bit, so I just heard the little bits of this. Fill me in what's going on with Epstein. He's really alive, like always. He's alive sitting in a cell. No, so Epstein, they had promised all of these Trump administration officials, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Cash Battelle, all had promised to release these Epstein files. And when they got in, when they got in, they would finally uncover these files that would be hidden by the deep state and these

communist, Marxist, Democrats, and they would expose this whole list. So these guys come in. I mean, you've got like literally, Kashmir Tal and Dan Magino made their entire careers in talking about this stuff over and over and over again. They get put into the top spots in the FBI and Pam Bondi at the DOJ and suddenly it's time for them to put up or shut up and Pam Bondi and the DOJ released a report saying that there's no Epstein client list. So apparently nobody was benefiting from all of the depraved things that Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were doing.

And man, did that piss the fuck off the entire audience that followed Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, Alina Haba, and Donald Trump, all of whom thought that they were going to hold true to their word to actually get some accountability for these depraved crimes. Of course they're not going to release this stuff because first of all, you've got Trump himself who's been in God knows how many photos with the guy. Epstein called Donald Trump his closest friend for 10 years. That was like Epstein's direct quote.

And so, of course these files were never going to get released. And they didn't. But now you have a whole sense of... Wait, wait. We are assuming that if I'm Epstein, who was... I said this on my show recently. If there's a guy who's like really rich, and you're not quite sure how he got that rich,

he doesn't seem to have any talents, he's a pimp. He's a pimp. There are guys like that. Who are you referring to? Epstein. That's, he's a pimp. A pimp for kids, yeah. I've known guys like this, pussy whispers.

That's what a pimp is, a pussy whisperer. Someone who can like just, they just have this, I don't. That's what a pimp is, a pussy whisperer. Someone who can like just, they just have this, I don't know what it is, I don't have it. I'm glad I don't have it. But they have an ability to talk women into anything. Like, even when it's not, the woman doesn't benefit that much, it's just an amazing skill that some guys have.

That's who he was, he was a pimp. We are assuming that this pimp kept a physical record. And I'm not, no, maybe that, maybe I missed this. Who knows? So they don't know. I mean, we don't know what, we don't know any information. It's a black hole. Because they keep refusing to release anything.

So we actually don't know. OK, but I'm just saying, if my business, as it was Mr. Epstein's business, was being a pimp, that's what he was. He was great at that. I've got girls. You say that to a nerd like Bill Gates. Hey, I've got girls. Alan Dershowitz, you're an ugly looking motherfucker.

Would you like to be friends with me? I know a lot of girls. Oh, I mean, yeah. Look, I think there's no doubt about why it works for a lot of these people. No, but what I'm saying is, if I'm that guy, do I need to keep a physical record? I know Bill Gates and Bill Glitman and Donald Trump want to come on the plane. Yeah. It would be like me keeping a list of just my friends.

I know who my friends are. I don't really- You don't necessarily need to be signed here on the dotted line. Yeah, like, who do I have dinner with? Let me check the files. I think the- Shirley, you keep records on who I like, don't you? I think the broader issue, though, is that all of these people were so steeped in this

idea that if they could just get into a position of power, then they would be able to finally do something and expose it. And it was so anticlimactic and so similar to everything else that's been said from the left. I think it's really disillusioning for a lot of these folks on the right who kind of viewed the left as the impediment to getting that justice. And now you're seeing the exact same talking points being trotted out on the right who kind of viewed the left as the impediment to getting that justice. And now you're seeing the exact same talking points being trotted out on the right. And like, you know, there's a lot of things that Trump has done to your exact point that fall into the category of, okay, this is going to piss some people off.

But it usually feels like it has very little staying power. Trump bombs Iran and like even you have a few people that came out and said, okay, this guy promised to be the peace the pro-peace president but like for a lot of people is that really gonna is that gonna are they gonna like change you know switch sides of the guy but like this I love this this this year as relates to that was a home run for me and for him and I'm a guy who was always saying we should at least when they had the deal, we should try to see if the Obama plan, the peace deal

that Obama made, can work. I don't think I'm telling tales out of school, but once had a long conversation with Netanyahu, who was wanting to talk me into. And may I say right now, all these years later, one, maybe I was wrong. I thought it was worth a try to bring- The JCPOA? Yes. Ooh, that's a- The Iran nuclear deal.

Great. I'm all for someone who knows shit I don't. Whatever that was, I thought it was worth a try to try to bring the Iranian people, who are not an unsophisticated people, into the family of nations again, as they used to be, peaceably. And also, the reports were that they were like 15 years away from the bomb. But again, here we are in a different place.

A, maybe I was wrong. And Netanyahu was right. He probably knows a lot more than me. Like his contention was that I don't care what it says on the piece of paper or what the inspectors are telling you. They're cheating. They're always going to cheat. They're trying to get a bomb.

They make no secret and never have had about wanting to wipe us off the face of the earth. OK, so we should just, we have to just take them out. And I didn't think that. But once Trump scuttled it in the first term, fait accompli. Now we're into a different era. So maybe I was wrong. Doesn't matter.

Because once we got to this place where they really were getting close, I mean, there was a report a little before he dropped the bomb, the first one from the inspectors, the UN inspector who said, oh no, that we don't know and they're cheating. So it was almost something that had to be done. And look, Iran, I'm sorry, has been asking for it

for the longest time. They have been sponsoring every bad news group in the Middle East who is anti-Western civilization, places where you couldn't survive a day. So please don't defend them. No, I mean, look. No, I'm not saying you would. I swear, what the hell did I say? You and your Queers for Palestine t-shirt. Get rid of that. Look,

what I hope happens in Iran is I think what everybody across the political spectrum hopes happens in Iran, which is that there's some, I hope that folks in that country rise up and there's some, you know, it can't happen at the hands of the U.S. I hope that they rise up and we see something, you know, circa pre-revolution. Here's the key thing about that. Rising up is so much harder than it ever used to be because of technology. When we rose up against the British, they didn't have drones.

They didn't have cameras. You could hide. I mean, this even up into the Soviet era, this was the case. Now, for you to rise up and somehow evade the authorities who are looking to catch dissidents, almost impossible. Yeah, I mean it happened to, you know, well, I don't really know any reason to example

some point to where it happened, proving your point. Well, the original revolution, not the original, but the Khamenei revolution, they called that, you know what they call it, the cassette revolution. Yeah. They smuggled. Or like six technologies past that by now. They smuggled in the dissidents point of view on cassettes and they played them on their

fucking boom boxes. And that was only 1978. That's where the technology was. The irony is that now if you want that type of information to make it feel like you're a part of a community and that you have more people there to rise up with you. The hard part is that, yeah, it's easier to get that information, but it's that much harder for the reasons that you just mentioned to actually effectuate it. I don't know what's going to happen.

I saw Bibi was with Trump the other day and they were talking about transforming the whole Middle East. And again, I know Trump, look, I put up my 56 insult. I was reading that. I got him to sign that. This is my favorite position. 56 horrible things he said about me, obviously, which were in, I obviously said something about him. So like, no one needs to lecture me about Donald Trump.

But, and well before I did the horrible dinner, which changed the world completely. I'm curious about the dinner. Do you regret any part of it? Do you regret doing it? Do you regret the before or after? I'm just curious, like, the way that all of it played out, how do you think about it?

Do you think about it as... Well, the people who hated me from before the dinner, the 10% who live on Blue Sky, just found another thing to hate me for. But their hatred looks ever stupider as time goes by because their big fear was that, oh my God, I was gonna be seduced. And of course, I went right back

to tearing him a new asshole every week. If you don't watch my show, that's fine, you don't have to, I don't hate anybody, or dislike anybody who doesn't watch it, but then you can't comment, because if you have been watching it, you see that I didn't change one bit. So there was no argument there except your emotions,

except, ah, he went to see the bad man. Like, yes, I'm thrilled. First of all, you're invited to the White House for a private dinner with the president. Really, you don't go? Well, then you're a fucking idiot, in my view, no matter who the president is. Two, he has all the power,

so like, maybe you should talk to him. And then, part two, like, okay, I had to make a report on it once people knew I went. Should I lie? No, that was not an option, never has been for me. That's my bond with my audience. So I told him the truth that yeah, that guy who lives there is different than the one you see on TV.

And I kept saying over and over in the piece, like I'm just reporting. You make your decisions. You do what you do. I'm just saying I went down into the mine and I'm telling you what's down there that you don't know, or maybe you do, but like to just be like, oh no, it's just emotional. If I had the opportunity to talk to Trump, I'd be happy. I try to interview Republican officials and the farthest right Republican that I've ever

gotten on was like Adam Kinzinger. To give you an idea, and you don't really have to in this media environment because it's so bifurcated. And so you have all of these right-wing outlets, you've spoken to people who have come here and you've spoken to them. There's no need for people on opposite ends of the political spectrum to go on opposing viewpoint shows anymore because there's so many, like why deal with tough questions when you can just get pats on the head?

But that's what my show is every week. My real tough show is like- But in this new media environment, there's very few shows that do that. I mean, I reach out to Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Tiller-Green. Their offices will never respond. Yeah, well. You've got to reach out again. You know what?

I'll call them all for you if you want. I will tell them to go on your show, and they will do it. Because that's one thing that is very different from the left and the right. That surprises me, because usually the right-wingers will go anywhere. I just had that guy on, I loved him, Wesley Hunt, congressman, African American congressman from Texas,

Trump's biggest supporter, but it's so sincere. With Paul Bagala. Okay, that's America. And by the way, loved it that they bonded. That's what we gotta do. I mean, look, I do debates. Fox LA anchor Alex Michelson, who I think you know. Yeah, I love him.

He hosts debates between me and Tommy Lahren, I think we've been on like five times together already. Oh, Jesus, that's like Muhammad Ali fighting a seven-year-old blind girl. Why don't you fight somebody, your own Tommy. I mean, she's just... I was on with a... On Piers Morgan's show today, actually.

Good, good for you. And went on with Ted Cruz's co-host, Ben Ferguson. So, look, any time I have the opportunity to talk to folks on the other side, but I can also see at the same time why people on the other side of the aisle would say, like, why engage in this when it can just be easier and not? You know? And in this digital media environment, you really don't have to.

First of all, they should be giving you a fucking medal. All this talk about how Trump is only surrounded by ass kissers. OK, but then when you have someone who is decidedly not MAGA go there and speak to his face things he may never hear. I mean, I said things to hear. They should be carrying me off on their shoulders for saying to him, in private, yes. I mean, I reported it.

He didn't object to it, and he didn't object at the time. Well, so- Things like, why are you scaring people? You're scaring people. Why do you wanna do that to your citizens? What you did with Obama's birth certificate was low. You know, 2020 election, you know you didn't win now. I mean, I'm not saying this is going to change the world.

I'm saying like your shot doing nothing, not engaging, has zero chance. Mine, this guy, I'm telling you, I know this cat a lot better than I did before. He's a people person. He talks to people. You have to keep the lines open. The stupidest thing the left does, and this dinner is a perfect example of it, is having this attitude toward the right that we won't even break bread with you. We are so far above you that we won't even sit down at the same table with you.

That is their attitude, and that makes me sick too. I'm glad I break bread. And that's what makes them hate the left so much. They think that they're deplorables. We're deplorables and you won't even sit down to dinner with us. Well good luck. See how far that gets you. I mean right now, look, we're in a position where Democrats lost the popular vote, they lost the electoral vote, and so we no longer have the luxury of excommunicating people from the party who

are problematic. Or not talking to the other party who has all the power. Anybody who has any semblance of an ego, myself included, wants to see, like you see Trump engage in all this bullshit, the Epstein thing for example Whatever it may be the pro-peace and then and then he bombs Iran says gonna release the Epstein files doesn't do it And you have folks on the left who say who want to be like you fucking idiot I told you so like how did you not see this was gonna come that this was gonna happen How did you not see that when he said he's gonna lower a cost for people that that he doesn't give a shit about people

He's promised cheaper health care before he never delivered it, promised infrastructure before, never delivered it, promised a jobs boom and manufacturing renaissance. This guy always plays the same populist schtick and he never delivers. And so how do you not get it? But I think the way that I have to check myself often now, because the goal is persuasion, right? Like if you work in politics, the only way you win, the only way you exercise power is if you actually get

an office so that you can enact your agenda. That's it. Otherwise, you're just chirping at people on Twitter. While that may be fun, not that fun if you're watching the other side enact their agenda and you have ICE agents on the street. So I had to check myself often, and instead of those moments where I can just, where I want to say, you fucking idiot, how did you not know this was gonna happen to say like, we're here with open arms and if you want lower prices that's something that we can offer.

If you want somebody who's gonna expand your access to health care, that's something that we can do. If you think that workers should have dignity, if you think that unions should be stronger, if you see the effects of climate change and think that maybe we shouldn't be digging for more fossil fuels when you have insurance companies that are no longer offering insurance in Florida or California, then there's room in the coalition. And I think that has to be my North Star. And again, I have to check myself often because it's not easy.

You're doing the right thing. Checking yourself often is exactly how you do it. But to make this full circle to your question originally, that thing right there reminds me, see, I have standing to talk to the Republicans. Because one reason I'm bored with the, I just hate Trump more than you do, people. How could you go to a dinner? It shows I hate Trump more than you. Boring boring, and also I earned all these epithets.

I'm not a smart guy, better than Samanek's, fired like a dog, dumbass, not an intellectual, terrible show, moron, stupid guy, bad ratings, failing community. I earned these because I did all these editorials about Trump before anybody. I did the one where he's, to your point, where he's a con man, where he promises things. And I did the one of, he's a mafia boss. I did these a long time ago. Okay, so like you Johnny come lately, he's like, I've been there. I'm onto something else.

You should get on that page. I think the hard part is like, look, I think that everybody should take the opportunity to go talk to anybody. Hell, if I had the opportunity to go sit in front of Trump, I would relish that opportunity to interview him. Seven days out of seven, I would take that chance. This wasn't an interview.

No, I understand. I understand. It was more like this. But like, this is not an interview. But the point. Plainly. Yeah. Plainly, this is not an interview. Plainly. Plainly this is not an interview. But the point that I'm trying to make is like, I do think that the idea that, okay, he's a different person behind closed doors,

it feels almost worse because he should know better than. It's almost, it's bad enough if he was like this guy. Right? You know what? But you said it yourself. It feels. And that's the point. It's just about your feelings. I'm not on that page. It actually, logically, I think it's better. I find myself more comforted knowing that, oh, and here's the line I said, God, I meant, I said a crazy person doesn't live in the White House. A I said, a crazy person doesn't live in the White House.

A person who plays a crazy person on TV lives in the White House. Isn't that worse? It's not the ideal, I agree. But we're not living in a world of ideals. But logically, what's better, to think that the crazy person you see who's gonna go invade Greenland

and do these crazy things, is like that's the only guy. Or to know that, oh wow, there's somebody who's so much more self-aware, sorry but he is, somebody who actually can laugh. I made this point. I'd never seen him laugh in public and I don't trust people who don't laugh. But I saw it in private. Not a big belly laugh, but like, OK, there's somebody there who's better than the person I've been seeing. To me, that's better.

Not ideal. I get it, not ideal. Does this question resonate with you? Shouldn't he know better than? Of course. But if shunts and butts were beer and nuts, we'd have a hell of a party. But I'm living in reality. What world are you living in?

I agree, but my contention with this is like, okay, if this guy is self-aware, then what's the excuse for sending the military into Los Angeles? What's the excuse for pretending that he won the 2020 election? Sweetheart, I have my hate list. I give you my hate list.

It's a long list. But that's the part that election. Sweetheart, I have my hate list. I give you my hate list. It's a long list. But that's the part that I think is like, if I don't disagree that he's more self-aware than he's letting on, but that makes it almost worse for me because seeing somebody who knows better and yet makes the conscious decision to engage in this bullshit.

People are complicated. Here's my theory on the whole thing. And I don't think it's actually something that hasn't been said before by other people in different ways. But I think partly because of the way he was raised by his father, just partly New York. Which is to say, not hearing the words, I love you. That kind of stuff.

It's in that great movie. I heard you. I, that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's in that great movie. I heard you... I was an executive producer on The Apprentice. My friend, Nor, was a producer on that. Awesome movie, by the way. If you haven't seen it, The Apprentice, Sebastian Stan, and... And Jeremy Strong.

Ugh, as Roy Cohen. It's a genius movie that did not get its due because we're so partisan. Half the people were like, oh, it's terrible to Trump. And then half the people were like, it's too nice to him because you see him becoming Donald Trump and you do feel because he is a human. People say, oh, you went to the White House, you humanized him.

He's a human. Okay, could we just get past that? He's not Hitler and he's not inhuman. He's a human, a flawed one, I'll give you that. But he is a human. And it's, I forget what we're talking about. Well look, it's a low bar. Like, he is a human. I will grant him that.

OK, but some people don't. And he's also not Hitler. Look, I think I have not and won't throw that around, especially as a Jew with my entire family. But I would also say too, I mean, we would be fools to ignore by virtue of not wanting to seem alarmist, some pretty telling warning signs

that are right under our noses right now. The problem that we face is we become immune to a lot of this stuff. The fact that it's like a slow moving all of this stuff is slow moving slow moving cool I wonder who coined that phrase in 2016 well look you Got your you got your show moving cool. I was saying that before he was elected the first time I'm not taking it away from you. Okay, but I'm saying we know we we In your ourselves to this stuff it becomes normalized by virtue of the fact

that it's happening over time. But I think if you asked anybody in 2016, hey, how would you feel if a president who defied a nine-nothing Supreme Court order decided to send the military into American cities with no end date so that he can enact some nebulous plan? You would not hesitate for a second to say that soundsashy to me.

It does, and it is. And just because we've been here and we've seen it happen slowly over the course of a decade, should not and does not negate the things that are happening. And music about a third term. Correct. All these extra-legal things he does. Yeah.

Yeah, of course. I mean, we have no argument about that. As I always say to the woke, we voted for the same person. You're just why she lost. Do you think that there would have been... I'm curious. Do you think any Democrat... I have an opinion on this. Do you think any Democrat would have been able to beat Trump? I am all in on Mom Donnie.

Wait. Okay, wait. Well, let's stick to... I'm fucking with you. In 20, in 24, do you think anybody on the left could have defeated Trump? I have an answer for this, but I want to hear what you have to say. Okay, I mean, I'm a Californian, Californian, and you know, I'm friendly with our governor, who I also get on his case and have for being far too left. And I'm all, I mean, it's becoming like we're friends. So it's kind of a kidding thing, but you know, like I will talk to him about the first thing when I see him,

I won't even say his name, I'll just start on the potholes, or I couldn't get my solar hooked up, or all the crazy of California that he has to wear as baggage. I mean, it's a state where it's hard to buck that, but yeah, I think you could. And he's starting to. He has moved to the right, or let's say the center, on three big issues that I could name.

I won't bore the crowd, or maybe we will. And this is what I've been hoping he could do. It's a lot of baggage. But I always thought this guy has what it takes to be a presidential winner because he's just really smart. He's a great fighter, like he's mean, which is great. He knows how to be mean where you should, and he looks great. That doesn't hurt to be the tall, good-looking guy in the race. The Democrats, I think, have maybe learned their lesson and gone through their phase where they couldn't stand the sight of a white, heterosexual man, and maybe they're over that now.

I wonder if there will be electorate, like Democrats love to worry about electability. So we'll often get meta with it and say like, okay, I want X person, but I have to choose Y person because I don't think X person can win instead of just choosing X person because you want them, because you like them. But I think to that point,

because I don't think that we've shed our interminable fear of not winning elections and focusing on electability, I do think that after Hillary, after Kamala, I don't know that Democrats are going to be able to stomach putting forward a woman as the nominee just because of those two reasons. I think that Democrats are, there's a world in which Democrats are going to say the last, you know, two of the last three nominees were women, both of those women lost, the man won. And so for fear of losing again to whoever, whether it's some iteration of, you know, the Steve Bannon, let's put Trump in for the term, or JD Vance or whoever it is, I think

there will be a reversion if I had to guess. But then again, I told you I can't predict anything. I couldn't agree more. Again, and I have made a lot of productions, and all of them were right except Kamala. And that's OK. I kind of did that as wishful thinking. But this is where it circles back to the Seth Rogen show.

Because them casting the president and vice president slot is exactly that episode. They're gonna start out, they're gonna go, okay, we can't have a woman because we just had two and they lost, but we can't have a white man. Or we can't have a, we have to have some non-white man presence on the ticket. So it's going to be, okay, so it's going to be, say it's Gavin, and then it's going to be like, okay, and then, okay, Pete Buttigieg, because he's also gay.

Okay, but then what are you saying? That gays can only get the second, and they're going to do the exact episode? Probably. I mean, that's what, I mean, that's what it... I know. I mean, look, the reality of the situation is that Democrats are the big 10 party, and there are a lot of coalitions that are represented. It'd be a hell of a lot easier to be a Republican.

You're just a bunch of old Christian white guys. And so... Well, I would hardly call Trump a Christian. Well, but that's who he panders to. He's certainly not pandering to the atheists out there. No. So, I mean, that's their problem to deal with, the fact that they have accepted as their deity

a guy who, you know, I mean, not exactly embracing the ideals of Christianity on a daily basis. The racial question to me is like a perfect example of how people want something in the middle. I'm hoping to give them that. And on either side, they're ridiculous. I mean, the Republicans are definitely too white male, and the Democrats are definitely

too we got to check the box first. And America just wants something where we just, OK, we acknowledge our terrible racial past. I think most Americans think it's apropos to not just acknowledge it, but make certain remedial steps. But it's a different world than it was back when we were as bad as Iran.

And it's also not correct to completely throw merit over the side of the chip. Well, I actually think that the defining factor in this upcoming election, again, to predict something that I have no idea if it's going to pan out or not, is not going to be political ideology. It's actually just going to be a willingness to fight. I think that far and away is going to be the number one thing. Democrats for so long have felt like the party of strongly worded letters. For somebody like me who have grown up in the Trump era,

like I've come of age in the Trump era and I've come I've come of age in the Trump era And I've watched as these motherfuckers don't care about anything like we're out here saying like process norms institutions And they're like we don't give a fuck about any of those things Democrats are like Oh the parliamentarian says no Republicans like fire the fucking parliamentarian And this has been my whole life in politics watching this play out where And this has been my whole life in politics watching this play out where Democrats will play by the rules in hopes of some elusive reciprocation that never arrives. And we'll say, okay, Mitch McConnell says he's going to put forward these new rules about the Supreme Court.

Democrats get fucked. The parliamentarian says we can't include something. Democrats get fucked. Like every single instance is Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. They have no shame. They have no shame. You have to start with that. When Mitch McConnell did that and said, well, we've always done it where when a guy dies

on the Supreme Court, whoever's president gets to pick. I know it's sort of weird because five, you know, five guys could die during one guy's term and no guys could die during another guy's term. So it's kind of a fuck system to begin with. But that's our system. And we've always done it. And he just went, nope, not with this guy. You know, like the law became make me. So Trump did not exactly invent that. Mitch McConnell kind of invented that. And Trump ran with it. It was perfect. It was a symptom of the larger disease, but the disease was there. But I think that going

back to that point, whether you are willing to come in there and actually fight back, and look, you can fight for virtuous things. You can fight for expanded access to healthcare. You can fight for women's reproductive rights, climate change, stricter gun laws, whatever it may be on the left, but, like, the key word is that you're actually willing to fight. And we just don't... I mean, Democrats are older, they are of a different generation,

they don't have leadership that is going... for whom fighting and winning is gonna be their MO, is gonna be their North Star, and they need it. But you also have to fight against your own parties or own factions fringe. I feel like it will, it will dis, I think a big part of the reason that so many warring factions on the left

are so unsettled right now is because we're not in power anywhere. And so now comes the point where everybody wants to come out of the woodwork and say, it's because of this. It's because you didn't do all of this like me, like my positions, because you didn't put forward these positions that I espouse. So there is no winning formula.

And so as a result of that, everybody thinks their formula is the winning formula. And I think that once we win, all of a sudden, it'll be like, oh, you're right, that's how you did it. Oh, Barack Obama won by doing X, Y, Z, that's how to win. And it quells some of that turmoil that I think is brewing right now. I don't disagree with that at all.

I'm just saying, apropos to your question you asked a half hour ago or whenever it was about do I regret going to that dinner, Not in the least, because I now have standing with the Republicans in a way you don't, which is why they don't do your show and they do mine. Because, and I've said it a couple of times on my show already, I said, you know what? I went to the White House, a lot of people on the left said you shouldn't even do that.

And then I told the truth, and they really came after me. Remember I had dinner with Hitler according to Larry David? Come on, man. Once you play the Hitler card, you lost. But okay, so what I can say to Republicans and have said to them is, you know what? I told the truth. I didn't shrink from that.

And I took the heat from the left. Now I want you to do the same thing. You do it. You take the heat from the right, because I want you to be honest. Do you really think it's cool to talk about running for a third term? Because I know you don't.

And I have standing to say that to them, because I already got my beating from the left about me telling the truth Yeah, that's a really important weapon to have in your pocket if I would I agree up to the point where an important weapon to have but like You said it yourself. This is a shameless Republican Party And so when you come out, but at least they hear it I mean, I mean, I wrote a book whose title was Shameless. Like, that is the title of my book.

And that came out last year. And so, like, I get it. And I think that that's actually their greatest weapon. And... In a way, yes. Because how do you shame the Shameless? What tool do you have? What public pressure can you impose on somebody

for whom shame doesn't exist anymore? To get back to what we were saying a little while ago, and I never finished it, I guess we go, some one of us has done. But like I was saying, why Trump is different in public, and I'm saying his father, the way he was raised, he just has it in his head. And as a political animal, it's not completely wrong, that if you ever give an inch, if you ever show any weakness... That's the Roy Cohn School of Management.

Right. If you ever apologize, say you were wrong about anything, it is interpreted by a certain percentage of the lizard brain as weakness. And that's why in public, he never goes there. It's just always, you're an asshole, and I'm right, and I was never wrong, and it was a perfect call, and there's just, I don't give an inch, but that's not who he actually is.

That's what I found out. So the fact that I have more information than you, the fact that you would think that's bad, that I have more information. No, I don't think it's bad that you have more information than you? The fact that you would think that's bad, that I have more information. No, I don't think it's bad that you have more information. I just think it doesn't count for anything. Oh, it does. If that's who he is in private, because nobody get,

like, you don't get points. I feel like what? You don't get points for saying something. You don't get points for being self-aware in private. You get points for what you actually do on the world stage. Yeah, I'm not looking to score points for what you actually do on the world stage. I'm not looking to score points. Not you, I'm saying for him. I'm looking to make the country better. And by the way, what happens in private is what

always motivates him, I think, in public. Again, he doesn't do a lot of reading. It's a lot of, I was talking to people. People are saying, well, who are these people? Yeah. I would much rather there be people like me in his ear. I think there should be more people like me. And the thing is, I'm telling you, he will listen. That's also the thing about him is- I would rather have moderating forces there too,

but I think that world is gone. He reinvented the entire Republican Party. Correct. Right? All the things, it doesn't matter. It's a cult of personality. It's also his superpower. It means that he can turn on a dime or go against the promise he just made, just like

the most amazing used car salesman, and the people will go along with it. It does not matter. I don't know if that's a plus for him or an indictment on the rest of the party. Well, it's a plus for you as a politician or a leader. I mean, Elon Musk was the greatest guy, and now he's the worst, and Putin, like, okay, this apparently was his negotiating strategy.

One, surrender, Give fruit and everything. And then when he disappoints me and doesn't take yes for an answer, then I turn on him. And I just cannot predict this guy or what will happen. And I'll tell you this though, he is lucky. He's a lucky motherfucker. I'm an atheist. I don't know if a person who believes in that crazy shit are weird.

But I mean, there is, I don't know, if he sold his soul to the devil, that is certainly possible. But he has a luck. I mean, winning the first election, you had to have pulled an inside straight, like you can't believe in politics. I didn't watch the returns until late at night in 2016, or late 2015, because I was like, Hillary's gonna win.

I was working that night, and I was like, I'm fine. As an actor? No, nobody works as an actor. I had my other job, which was personal training at the time. Personal training? Yeah, and so I was- How about the wrestling?

Well, no, it was just like weight training with clients. Another Personal training? Yeah. So the wrestling? Well, no. It was just like weight training with clients. Another way to get near guys who were sweating. That's right. That's right. I'm not saying anything, Brian. They were especially confused when I was like, you have to show up in a singlet.

But let's be honest. You did find a way to put your hands on men again. You know what? Are you a married man? I don't know that. What is your personal life like? Let's get off politics. This is club random.

It's weird being in LA because everything feels very delayed in LA. Like I'm from Jersey, like you, and everybody was married, had their families right away, like 20, 23, 24 years old with all my friends. I went to Lehigh University, so all my friends that I graduated with from Lehigh,

all my friends that I went to college with. Pennsylvania, yeah, Lehigh. All got married right away. Out here, there's definitely a Neverland feel to like. Really? Yeah, there's like a major delay. I mean all of my friends. What do you mean by that delay?

I think with the entertainment, all of my whole social circle is folks in the entertainment industry. And I think that there is such a, I feel like you can, when your career is in order, it allows you to get into. Restaurant. Say again?

Restaurants. Restaurant, first of all, restaurants. When your career's in order, I feel like the rest of your life can kind of fall into place. But nobody's career is ever in order out here because you're just hustling the whole time if you're in the entertainment industry.

And so there's this unrest, there's this sense that you're not settled in anything. And so I don't know if it's like the hustle, and I'm sure other industries are the same, but I've seen it to a degree that I've not seen it anywhere else, and I mean any other industry. That's exactly probably how I felt when I was your age.

That's not how you feel now. When did you? You're not gonna feel that way. I mean, I'm almost 70. You're not gonna feel that way because you have established yourself. You're right. When you're in your mid-30s, you're still striving.

And by the way, I'll tell you something about your future. It's like, this is a lot better mentally, because, at least for me. Because when you're, well, because one of the greatest anxieties I ever had was, am I gonna be a failure? How is this gonna end up? Once you've sort of like gotten past that where like, oh, even if it ended tomorrow,

I mean, I've been on TV 32 years straight. Okay, no one's gonna say that was a failed career. So like, there's a certain equanimity that comes over your mind when you have that that you just don't have at your age. When did you start Realtime? Well, I started Realtime in 2002, but I had done Politically Incorrect for nine years. And how old were you when you started?

36, in real time. Yeah, Politically Incorrect. Yeah. And until then, I felt like I hadn't gotten my ticket punch. But you grew up in Jersey, and so you grew up around regular, normal people who were not in the industry. Totally. Oh, not at all. And I'm sure that those people got their lives started way in advance of you, that they were

having kids, that they already had two or three kids. I never wanted to have kids. So that was a victory, not a victory. Right. But you saw people getting started with their lives in a different way than they were in already had two or three kids. I never wanted to have kids. So that was a victory, not a victory. Right. But you saw people getting started with their lives in a different way than when people come out here.

What I saw that caused great anxiety was people, comics, who I had started with in the clubs in New York, starting to get famous because they got to the sitcom level, for example. And I was still like in the, and I was like, oh my gosh. Was there a point where you didn't know if you would like make it? Totally, that's what I'm saying. That's what causes all the anxiety. I mean, I came out here and I'd done a few tonight shows

and they loved me. And you know, when you're the new piece of meat in town, you're always gonna do well. And I got on sitcoms, and it was all going uphill. And then at a certain point, it plateaus, and you're like, oh, fuck, I don't wanna be the third lead on bringing up Chunky. And then there's a part where there was like the early 90s,

I was like, oh, shit, I'm home all day writing scripts. Am I going to ever really? And then I got politically incorrect and never looked back. But it takes a while to get that sort of feeling that, oh, I- I'll be okay. Yeah, I'll be okay and I'll be remembered as a success. Maybe it's not important to some people. I'll be okay. Yeah, I'll be okay and I'll be remembered as a success. Maybe it's not important to some people.

No, I mean, look, I think if you're in this industry, if you're in, and I say this industry, if you're in entertainment, I think that there is a, and I don't say this in a bad way because I'm in the same industry too, but there is a degree of narcissism, right? I'm sure there's a nicer way to put it, but I think anybody in this industry is not an introvert, right? And so there is that sense of anybody who wants to get in front of people, wants to entertain people, wants to move people, there is a degree of that. And if you feel like you're doing this job and you can't break through and you're not

going to be remembered or you're not going to get a good part, you're not going to be able to show people what you can do, then there is that nagging sense of failure looming. There is also the possibility, although I would say it's fairly slim, but it is one of 10 chambers in the gun, where you are really good and you still don't make it. Yeah.

Some of it is just- I would give it more than one chamber. You think so? I see the way. I've done the whole thing, the auditions and this and that. The easiest jobs I've gotten and the best jobs I've gotten have not been because you walk in

an audition room and they pluck you out of 30 people who audition. It's because somebody who's already on a movie tells the executive producer that, hey, I'm going to do this, but you're going to put my buddy in as guy number two. This is a nepotistic town. It totally is. And even if that happens, the luck part comes in is, is that movie going to be a hit?

Are you going to be in the final cut? If you're right. I've gotten through the whole shitty process is that movie gonna be a hit? Because if you're- Are you gonna be in the final cut? If you- Right. I've gotten through the whole shitty process of getting an agent, getting called in for an audition, getting a call back, going for producers, booking the role, shooting the thing, and I don't even make the final cut.

So all you get paid for is your day rate for the actual shoot, and you're not even in the thing. And so you have to go through all these steps, and at the end of the day, you might not even get anything for it. Right. And if the movie isn't a hit, no one will see it. Yeah.

And if it is, even if you had nothing to do, really, with making it a hit, but you're in it, then your ticket goes way up. Yeah. You know? So yeah, there is some luck. I do also think that the really superior talent always wins out. I just think there's no way to keep down.

Sometimes you have to keep knocking on the door for a while, but there's no way to keep down one of those giants talents. I mean, there's no- Cream rises to the top. Yes. A show business has a lot of bullshit in the middle, but the cream, there's no way Steven Spielberg wasn't, you know, maybe Jaws, what if Jaws was not a hit?

What if somebody, people in 1975, people were like, sharks, that's the last thing I wanna see. I'm swimming in the ocean, for Christ's sake. But they did, but like, would he have never risen? No, I don't think so. I think it would have taken the next one and the next one. And that's how real, you know, the contenders, not the pretenders.

It's a tough industry, though. I mean, like, you know, I moved out here to act, and that exact scenario that I played out, which is, like, getting an agent, getting representation, trying to get in these rooms, which is half the battle. Then when you get into the rooms, trying to get a callback, trying to half the battle. Then when you get into the rooms, trying to get a callback, trying to get people like you, the directors, the producers, whoever's sitting in that room.

And there's a lot of people, the reason that I started doing digital media, digital political media, first of all, I'm passionate about politics and that's been my whole life. But my whole career in entertainment has been a lot of people, has been me waiting for people to say yes. And I can't move forward unless every single person, every step of the way says yes.

And if there's one person who says no, I'm done. And so I started doing videos on- Way too collaborative. I mean, I started doing videos on Facebook and I would shoot them alone. I would set up my camera, hit record. I'd write my own scripts and I'd continue to. You made the right choice. I mean, acting is such a one in a million shot.

I mean, even if you're good at it, you can be like the greatest character actor in the world. You make middling money. All the money goes to the above the title stars. At the end of the day, people know your face and you can't even get a table at a restaurant. And if you dare to turn and roll down because they're not paying you enough,

they'll go, we'll go to the next character actor who is also very good at his job, and also people don't know his name, and he'll be fine. You know what? The world has more than one Charles Durning. I don't mean to insult Charles Durning who was terrific. But like, you know, the world is changing too because when I grew up, like that was,

I mean, TV and film are like the thing, right? Everybody wants to be a movie star and now these kids like Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they watch YouTube and so I talked to my niece and nephew. Oh, sure. And they love YouTubers. Yes. And it's weird because I grew up idolizing like,

you know, Tom Hanks and all these guys who I, Russell Crowe and Adam Sandler and all the guys that I grew up watching on TV, watching their movies. And it's just a different, it's a different world where like now people watch streamers and you know, just stare at YouTube all day, stare at Twitch all day. I try not to pander to that,

but I do have a new YouTube coming out about how to shave your back. I'm just saying, guys. Huge demand for that among the Gen Alpha contingent. But isn't that your impression that that's a lot of what goes on? It's like opening presents. I mean, it is weird because you have the, we grew up in an era where you have the best 22 minutes of TV,

they get filtered down so that there's never a dull moment. Right. And streaming is inherently four, five, six, seven, eight, hours of a lot of filler. And even my videos are short. Like my YouTube videos average about eight to 12 minutes. And I make sure that there's not even a breath. So it's just protein, right?

No empty calories. But streaming is a whole different animal. And people will just sit there. Viewing habits have changed. And people will sit there and watch these people who kind of inform their whole world view. Yeah. When I started this, the first year, we were doing an hour.

And the biggest complaint was. It's not long enough. And I would always say, wow, the American attention span, it's either eight seconds or three hours. That's been the hard part. There's no middle ground. Yeah, I mean. But yeah, one hour was like, you are cheating us.

And so I was like, yeah, hey, can I get high for two hours? You bet I can. Yeah. Have you ever had, do you notice like a market change from as you smoke more and more, are you different or are you basically steady the whole time? I smoke, I smoke. I wish I could get that high.

I've been smoking for half a century, more than the time you've been alive. I wish I could get that high, but they just don't have it. And I mean, I'd have to mainline it or something. Yeah. And that's okay. I don't need to get crazy high. Do you ever impose like, do you ever impose like you know week long or month long stops so that when you smoke again it'll be more potent, be more effective. That has been one of my New Year's resolutions. For how many years?

1975. Seriously, I would love to do that. Yeah, no. It's like the guy in airplane. I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. I mean, there's just never a good week. And what I have to say about pot is that it's not something that calls to me to smoke it,

which I would call an addiction. When I was smoking cigarettes, it demanded that I smoke a cigarette. Pot never... I don't even think about smoking pot unless I have a reason to. Until the joint is in your hand every day. As you can see.

Well, I figure... No, until I have a... Tell me the joint is in your hand every day. As you can see. Yeah. Figure. No, until I have a... Tell me more about how you know. Well, because you're seeing me at a moment where I smoke pot. Right. No, I know. But I really don't... I'm not watching TV at night and going, oh boy, I wish I was stoned

right now. Or like, I've got to get up. It doesn't even cross my mind. It kind of does for me. You smoke? I smoke every... Oh, you don't want my mind. It kind of does for me. You smoke? I smoke every morning. Oh, okay.

I get it. I get it. That would be any useful conversation. I get it. Same reason I don't smoke for real time. That would be a disaster because it's too much. Some things you can do stoned. I mean, I can.

I won't talk for everybody. And some things you can't. But the things that I can, I always want to do stoned. You know, this, fucking, you know, there's certain things, I'm sorry, writing, you know, that are like just easier, better. I can't do anything where I need to be, where I have to make cogent thoughts. I, that's, it's, which I think is actually a good thing, because I reserve it for fun,

and which for me is at the end of the day. Like I usually finish, I'll work like 14, about 14 hours a day. And I'll start at seven or eight in the morning and I'll go until about nine o'clock at night. And which means I only have like a couple hours of downtime. Your girl must be pissed at you. I'm a blast to date.

Do you live together? We do, yeah. But it's always been. Do you work out of your house? I work out of the house. So I'm around all day long. It's not like she's hurting to see me. So you could go from working dude

to Mac Daddy in five minutes. Yeah, I mean if I wasn't working 15 hours a day, then yeah. But I mean, I do, look, I work out of my house, and there's plenty to keep me busy the whole day. And you attribute this to Judaism. This must be my case. We can't have milk.

I have no gastrointestinal system. I'm allergic to anything with whey, casein, and dairy. Are you serious now? Say again. Are you serious now? I actually am. I actually am serious. Why? Is that a Jewish thing? Yeah, itin, any dairy. Are you serious now? Say again. Are you serious now? I actually am. I actually am serious.

Why? Is that a Jewish thing? Yeah, it's a Jewish thing. We're built, like we are not a robust people. Jews, we may be like the attorneys and the doctors, but like give us a cup of fucking milk and we're done. What is about, I've heard that. Why is that?

Because we're 2% of the world's population. And there is a certain degree of a Not even. Not 2%. Is it not even 2%? Is it 0? 15 million people out of 8 billion? Is it 0.2%?

That's more like it. 0.2% because we're 0.2% of the world's population. And 8 billion. So 2% would be 800 million, right? Wait, wait. What's 10% of 8 billion? Oh, boy.

I'm the stone one. That would be 800 million. Yeah. OK, so it's not that. That's 10%. So it's a fifth of 800. 160 million. It's not what Jews are.

Yeah. In any case. It's 0.02 or and sixty million. That's not what Jews are. Yeah. In any case. It's.02 or something. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, that's why we're allergic to dairy. That's why our gastrointestinal systems are failing as a collective whole. It's interesting that the Bible, especially books like Leviticus, have a lot of laws about

eating. And they're right next to like like, slavery, not a problem, just, you know, don't beat your slave. Or if you kill your slave, if you kill another man's slave, he gets to take your slave. Like, lots of rules about slavery, none of them don't do it. Yeah. Yeah. But right next to that is, like, don't eat lobster.

Yeah. Like, fucking don't mix meat with milk. Like, OK, slavery, lobster. And it's just so funny that people take, to me, that they take this shit seriously. Because it was obviously written in an era where people were just, I'm sorry, no insult to the people back then. But you were early on in the human parade.

I mean, you're talking about like bleeding people out via leeches. And, uh. sorry, no insult to the people back then, but you were early on in the human parade. Yeah, I mean, you're talking about like bleeding people out via leeches and... Oh, that was much later. Yeah. That works. They still do it. Do you know that?

No, I didn't know that. Is that for real? They absolutely still use leeches. But does it work? Sometimes it's the best way to bleed someone out. Can you imagine? When you say the best way to bleed someone out, is that a thing?

Like they do it in the hospital. And leeches are the best way to bleed someone out, is that a thing? Like they do it in the hospital. And leeches are the best way to do it? Yes. You mean in some places? In some instances, not places, instances. What would, I'm just so curious what an instance would be. I'm not Dr. Oz, bro. Where they're like, we have a pick line here, but hear me out.

Right. And they hear me out. Right. Hear me out. Sometimes the natural way is best. Yeah. Let me introduce Dr. Ho, my Chinese holistic. Yeah. Yeah, no, that was just a bad example, but I get your point. But anyway, going back to the weed thing, yeah, I guess I keep it to non-work stuff.

And so for me, it has a good association, because it means that I get to watch movies, I get to eat, and I enjoy food more. Like, you just enjoy everything a little bit more. And it's a quick way... It's a quick way to wind down without a hangover. And I have to be on camera every single day, and I work seven days a week. So you use pot the way most people do,

more for relaxation. See, I'm the opposite. I use it for work, not that sex is work, but it's effort, you know? It's like you've got to be... It's good, but like, it's not passive. And watching a movie is passive. I would never get stoned to watch a movie.

I've had a couple of instances where I've smoked, and I'm like, for all intents and purposes, out of commission, and then something happens in the news. And I think like two or three times, and this is over like the last few years, but like two or three times where, I mean, I'll usually wait until it's pretty late at night, but we live in the Trump era,

and anything can happen pretty late at night. And I'm already high, and I'm like, see something break and I'm like, okay, I'm going to try. And you have to get it out that fast. Your audience wants you to react to something that quickly. That's the whole game. That's how it goes on YouTube. I mean, like, news has a couple, you know. I'm so the opposite.

I'm on vacation. This is our summer break. Yeah. I mean, right after we went off the air, Trump dropped his big bomb. Yeah. Like, and I'm not on social media. I'm like, you know what? If you want to know what I think, you'll wait for me to come back in August.

You're lucky in the sense that you're established. I'm sure that's not the right way to do it. No, but I mean, look, you're established to the point where you can do that. I'm just saying I shouldn't. No, I mean, but shouldn't. But you're not trying to make a name for yourself. You know what I mean?

Exactly. You've got your show. This is still part of the rat the race and making sure that you can Exactly, you know get your news out. It's why I do it. It's cooler. Yeah, you'll wait for me bitch Yeah, you'll hear what I said about the bomb. Well now they know I said it on the part. That's right. That's right but like you know, it's uh, it's It's it's it's all kind of like, you know, I left the entertainment industry because it felt like too much of rat race I'm in a different kind of rat race, but it's it's the same thing. Also you know, I left the entertainment industry because it felt like too much of rat race. I'm in a different kind of rat race,

but it's the same thing. Also, you're still in the entertainment industry. You're just, you know. Writing my own material. Well, and also for people whose idea of entertainment is something intellectually nutritious and something that has to deal with what's going on in the world.

I mean, when you eliminate like the percentage of the population that they don't like you, they don't like me, it's not because of our, they just are not interested in what we're talking about. What was the thing that you called the Iran deal before? The J-B-B-B? Oh, JCPOA. Yeah, I mean like, I didn't know that one.

They don't even know about the Iran deal. Or CARE. Did you see Trump the other day at the White House when he was putting up two giant flag poles and he had like six construction workers behind him? And of course he's Trump. So he goes out there and he just starts riffing and the picture, even the New York Times couldn't help themselves by showing a realistic picture. All the construction guys behind him just smiling from ear to ear

laughing because he was just like, whatever he was talking about. And they were like, wow, we're just here at the White House putting up a flagpole and this dude wanders out and just starts spewing. And that is a connection to the everyday person that most politicians love him or hate him that just do not have. It'll be interesting to see who the Democrats do choose to put forward because I think- Who do you want? Who do I want?

Yeah, who is your- you must have an idea. You must have a number one. I don't know who I want yet. Come on. Dead honest truth. I don't know who I want yet. I want someone who, like I told you before, is going to be a fighter. I don't really know- Well, I'll give someone who, like I told you before, is gonna be a fighter.

I don't really know, like. Well, I'll give you my top two. My top three. Gavin, Pete, Ari, not Ari, he's my agent. His brother, Rahm Emanuel. Yeah. Rahm Emanuel. I mean, and I get it, they're all white men.

Thank God, thank God Pete is not interested in vaginas. Whew. Thank God, thank God, Pete is not interested in vaginas. Whew. So there's something in there. But those are my top three. Retain your progressive bona fides. Oh my God, well this is what I'm talking about. These are the Democrats. No, no, I know.

But I think some other names. Those are three, I think, very talented politicians. They all have something that recommends them highly. They're all good. All those three guys are good. That is a talented field to make the final choice from, is my estimation. I think those names are very likely to be there.

I think Westmore is another name to keep an eye out for. Yeah, I don't know. The governor of Maryland. I just don't know enough about him. Yeah, agreed. That's the only reason why. Which, by the way, in this environment may play to his favor because Pete has baggage

with the Biden administration. Gavin has baggage because he's the governor of California, the big punching bag of the United States. OK. Westmore has no bag. He doesn't have name ID, but he has no baggage right now. But here's something that some percentage of voters will think if it's Westmore. They'll think, okay, the Democrats put up Kamala, who really wasn't that great, because they're the Democrats, and they just had to put up someone, a person of color.

So now you've got this guy, Wes Moore, and come on, isn't he there just because he's a person of color? I'm not saying that's what the truth is. I'm saying that's what the Democrats bought themselves with going too far on the DEI train. That's what they bought themselves, suspicion now for any person of color who is at the head of the ticket.

I think he will, I know him to a degree, and I think that he will, that he'll dispel any of those rumors. And look, I really honestly think these days, you know, it feels less to me like it's gonna be about checking any boxes and more about who the person is. If you look at like... That's optimistic.

Yeah, I mean look, you have to have some optimism in this space, if you don't, you'll go crazy. Like if you have no sense of hope and you work in democratic politics. The fact that New York is considering electing Mamdani Meir is not a great harbinger for the Democratic Party. That is not a great look. It is.

It is a testament to the fact that... Maybe you like him, maybe he's your boy. It is a testament to the fact that despite what in the past might have seemed like disqualifying factors, I think that people are drawn to the individual candidates who can stand out among fields of very rote, boring politicians. You kind of look like him, you know. I look like, I look like Zoran Mondani. I don't know how you could like this guy, but okay.

I think he is, I really don't have a whole lot of opinions on the New York mayoral race, because I really haven't followed that race. Oh fuck, come on. Who are you fucking talking to here? You, with your show, and getting out of bed at three in the morning, stoned out of your mind to go to a report, doesn't have thoughts on the New York mayor race where New York City is about to nominate, well, he's definitely going to be the Democratic candidate for mayor,

someone who has said things like the government should take over the means of production. I'm not going to suggest what political party of the past that is aligned with, but I think we all know it begins with a C. That's pretty crazy stuff. And the ugly streak of anti-Semitism that is going through the far left of the Democratic Party, that is going to be the downfall. I mean, I would hope that at least the Jews would get on that page. I think, well, here's what I do think as it relates to Jews in New York. I think that if the Jews wanted a candidate to consolidate behind, if Mamdani was not

their speed, that they made a mistake by putting Cuomo out as the- They did, but that's past history but that but you but you but you on my hate on my hate list Trump talking about how he's gonna have to like take go after New York City like I thought the Republicans were all about states rights and get the federal government they're too powerful out of our lives now they're full of shit they'll say whatever they need to say at the time that these flashing bumper stickers go on.

None of these things that Trump does elude me or stop me from criticizing him. I get it. Like, the idea to, as much as I don't want Mom Donnie to be the mayor, the idea that the President of the United States would say, well, the federal government is going to have to straighten out your city. Again, guys, Republicans, I have standing to say to you, be honest, that you know this is exactly the opposite of what you've always said you think the federal government should be, not someone who says they can come

and straighten out your city. Because that wasn't OK in Alabama, was it? No. I mean, for these local races, I truly don't really focus on the local races other than LA, because this city I know. And I've been focused on like- Well, you should start.

Because this is- Well, unfortunately- This thing in New York is not just all- This is New York. We're not talking about- It's the mayor's race. It's a mayor of New York City. I understand, but... New York City is different.

It is our financial capital. It is our cultural capital in many ways. It's New York. I would say LA is the cultural capital. Our biggest export is culture. Well, look, I mean... The entertainment industry, the TV and film industry. Although I have...

My early years were all dominated by New York as a suburb of New York. My father worked in New York, New York TV, New York sports teams, and then I lived there twice in my life. I very much know New York. I'm not fond of it. I respect it, but there are reasons why

I never wanted to live there. I love here. That's just a personality thing. But New York is New York. It's the media capital, the financial capital. It is a bellwether like no other city is in this country. So don't tell me that who the mayor of New York is doesn't matter. It matters more than it. Let me play devil's advocate for a second. Do you think, let's say, on the seize the means of production,

do you think the mayor, that one person, if he is a democratic socialist, do you think that he would have the power and influence to be able to like usher in socialism? Definitely has the power and influence to elect J.D. Vance or whoever is the Republican candidate next time. It is a walking commercial for the Republican Party nationally. I think the Republicans are gonna...

When you let the Democrat socialists, and now they're actually calling themselves social, when you let them take over a major American city, this is what you get. The state-run grocery stores, which work so well in Cuba and the Soviet Union and Venezuela, just bad ideas. And again, there's ugly streak, ugly streak of anti-Semitism. Who's the most popular politician on the left? AOC? I don't know. One of, but who's, you know, Bernie is a, Bernie is, I mean, he's not a capitalist.

You know? No, he's not, and he's also not president. He's not, but neither is Mom Donnie. No, but he will, trust me, he will be featured in the campaign commercials. They boogeyman everybody. Yeah, but you don't have to boogeyman him. He does it to himself.

But they'll do it regardless. Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Gavin Newsom, they make anybody into boogeyman him. He does it to himself. But they'll do it regardless. Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Gavin Newsom. Yeah, but it has... They make anybody into boogeyman. I think it was... Just have more weight when it's real. I mean, when you can really show it. I mean, you know...

Look, if he becomes mayor, I'll tell you one thing is certain, I'm rooting for him. I come from a long line of Brooklynites. My whole family's from Brooklyn before we eventually moved to New Jersey and I moved 3,000 miles away, but I want to see New York succeed. I want to see him succeed. I do too. And so I think in instances like this where A, you can call yourself a democratic socialist,

whether you're going to be able to unilaterally usher... I mean, I know how LA works. I know how LA politics work. And I know that if the mayor wants to do something, they're probably not going to be able to do it because the LA city council is an impediment to that because all of our local politics are an impediment to just about anything that you want to get done. Things happen so slowly. Okay, so I'm going to let it go.

I'm going to ask you a couple of personal questions, and then we're going to play the game with my. Let's do it. Do you read The New Yorker? No. Never read The New Yorker? No. But you're kind of a New Yorker.

Yeah, but I grew up on The New York Times, and that slowly devolved into, and I use that word on purpose, devolved, but devolved into like getting my news on Twitter. And so if there's a news... Still? Yeah. Even after Elon? Do I wish our news sources weren't controlled by megalomaniacal billionaires?

Yeah. Is that going to stop me from getting accurate news? No. I mean, look, you have to also be smart about it Like you can't I'm not gonna go on to Twitter and and fall victim to like, you know and any Fucking you know random account post something. I'm not just gonna blindly believe it I know what sources I believe on that are on Twitter, but it's you know, it's I Know what journalists I can trust. I know what news sources I can trust but I get them on Twitter That's the fastest way to get news, unfortunately.

Well, I would not have even guessed that it kept that cache. But I guess, you know, because they do it through gritted teeth. I mean, well, you got to give it to Elon, then. Because even after people started to hate him and light his Teslas on fire, they somehow still couldn't get off Twitter because you know why? That's not because of Elon, that's in spite of Elon.

Twitter is a commodity. Right. And I went after him for this. He went back on a big promise he made, which was he wanted to take over Twitter because it had become a left-wing echo chamber, which he was completely right about. It had. But then he just made it a right-wing echo chamber. He just reversed it.

He didn't do what he said he was going to do, which like, I just want free speech and nobody put their thumb on this scale. And it just switched. That's not cool. But the reason why it survives, I think, so well is because the alternative was blue sky, which is just that 10%, the ones who absolutely hate me, the ones who just like to live divorced from reality, and that is their right.

But they just want to hear coming back to them what they already believe. And sometimes it's true, and I would agree with quite a bit of it, but I don't want to just be in an echo chamber. So like all these things that I could keep listing these things that the left does not condemn enough. And now you see politicians on the left who are starting to come out of the woodwork and do that.

And until they, and I'm sorry, but people like you, start condemning that stuff, that party is never going to even come close to winning another election. Yeah, I think that there is an issue with some of the groups that are, I think, probably think that they mean well by saying, OK, even with these edge cases, even with these like crazy, like transgender reassignment surgeries in prison, right? Like edge case.

By putting politicians on record, they're actually doing more harm than good because the American people are not there. That's clear. And- Should they be? Should they be? Should they be? On the issue of transgender reassignment surgeries in prison, I don't think that that's... No, I don't think that that's something that I'm willing to...

I don't think that that's a hill that I'm... Does it even need that many words? How about just, no, that's stupid? I don't think that's a hill that I'm willing to die on. A hill should even fight for? So like, I think the groups that think that they're helping are in fact hurting themselves and the people they purport to want to protect by getting people on record in a party where I think the expectation is that you have to fight for all people, no matter how off the beaten path,

like transgender reassignment surgeries in prison, like those people. But I think that there is a fundamental misunderstanding of how, A, information can be weaponized, and B, the number of those people that fall into those categories is like single digit numbers of people. Again, it's not the number of people,

it's the number of people who are defending it. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Okay, that's what's important. And you know, I know she said during the campaign, I never said that, and then they're like, come on, they have film of you doing it. Yeah, look, I think there's a sense that like, and this is a tough juggling act,

because there's a sense of like, no one, like everyone's okay. Like whatever you choose to do is okay. You know what I mean? And it's this weird like, I mean, this would normally be like a libertarian stance, but libertarians don't believe in this anymore. But like whatever you wanna do is fine.

And I think that's the hard part to reconcile because, do you understand what I'm saying? No. Like, if you want to whatever, be a trans person. Yeah. It's protected by law. Correct. But I think there's this sense of, among Democrats,

whatever you want to do, whatever you want to believe in, however you want to dress or love, whatever is OK. And the part that butts up against that is, OK, what protections should be made? In sports, how should that reconcile? It would be hard for you to point to somewhere in the legal system where we don't already have protections

for every imaginable minority or marginalized group. It would be hard to find that in the law. I'm not saying everyone obeys the law all the time. But as far as in the law, systemically, you can't really find that. Including the one that the Supreme Court made recently that included trans people in the, was it 1964 Civil Rights Act or something like that? So look, humans are humans.

They're gonna believe stupid shit and they're gonna be a certain amount of racists and bigots and this and that. But you know, you can't legislate humans. Yeah. All we can do is, you know, we have, look, I think we live, you're happy you live in America, aren't you, as opposed to anywhere else,

you're not looking, you're not asking for the check, right? I'm happy I live in Los Angeles. I'm happy I'm living in California. I'm lucky as hell to live in America. Even with fires and all those problems we have out here. I would not want to live anywhere else, and I would not live anywhere else. I feel the same way.

I see. Will you promise me one thing? If anybody gives you any shit from the right, will you call me? And I will make them call. You meant that? You call me if you have any trouble. Alright.

I will call Matt Gaetz, I mean like, I met Charlie Kirk. Yeah, I saw, I watched the Charlie Kirk. I know all these dudes. Yeah. And they, they passionately.