Club Random with Bill Maher - Dr. Drew Pinsky| Club Random w/ Bill Maher

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

Bill Maher and Dr. Drew Pinsky randomly riff on the good old days of office romances, Dr. Drew's secret to living longer, the feminization of men, surviving the woke vortex, the Coolidge Effect and the love lives of roosters. 

The thing I said about wearing black velvet pants, do you remember what you thought at the time? About your pants? About your appearance. I feel like I need to ask this question about like... I don't remember the pants. I remember you being there, but I don't remember the pants. But why would you remember my pants? Because they were black velvet. You don't. But why would you remember my pants? Because they were a black belt.

Because you're still embarrassed about it. We make these. I won't do. I'm 63. 63. You look good for 63. You look good for your 60's. Well, it's so funny.

I'm going to blow a joke in my act, but I don't care. Bear is repeating, but it is my act. I had comics hated when you had called an illegal spritz, but it is my act. I have comics hated when you it's called an illegal spritz But it's came from something I really thought inside which was you know when people say you look great Yeah, the Subtext is the unannounced for it is for your age right if I was 32 and I worked in you'd be like oh my god But you want a fire? Yeah, yeah. But that's all you can do.

I mean, you can shave as what do you think? Five, set to seven years, right? It's not. It's moisture, I just think, and eating right, and yeah. It's some of it is not looking older than you should, right? Being wrinkled at. Yeah, yeah. But a lot of it is just having a certain amount of vitality and youthfulness and how you feel about yourself.

Now, here's something I put forth as a theory that if you have a lot of youth, if you have a, no, I would never smoke that. But if you have a lot of sex, as we were talking before, about your lovely sex life, you live longer because the DNA in your body feels like this is a person who is recreating the species a lot, so we need to keep him alive. Now, this is a theory I am facing.

I'm not saying that. I'm like nothing but what I pull out of my ass. I love it, but I want to believe it. I want to believe it. It fits. Well, if we want to believe it, no, it fits with evolutionary theory, right? If somebody's effectively surviving and reproducing nature would go, that's probably good.

That's what I say. I just can't believe I got you to sign under. Listen, it's so funny. You would bring this up. I've never said this to anybody. But Ernest Borgnein was being interviewed on the sedation. I'm not saying under what's he listen, it's so funny you'd bring this up. I've never said this to anybody but Ernest Borgnein was interviewed on the today show I swear to God. This is as a payout. I promise kids Use your goggles to find out he was 94 or something Yeah, he interviewed on the today show and they asked him the question like God. How do you look so good?

And do you know what he answered? I masturbate all the time Did you know what he answered? I masturbate all the time. It's like he's dead on 5 TV. Ernest Borgnayn at the age of 95. Yes. Said I masturbate all the time. Mastered constantly.

And I thought, well, that's interesting. Maybe he's on to something. I think he was lying. You know, he went around a couple times. Because they were like, oh, he's kidding. He was like, no, no, I'm quite serious. I know, but I'm only 66. I say only compared to Ernest Borg, no, I'm quite serious. I know, but I'm only 66. I say only compared to our other sports.

I'm not, yeah. And I've slowed down from, oh, sure. 60s when you slow, but have you talked to Captain Kirk to, what, him, Justin William? He's amazing at his age. About what? He cognition and vitality and say he's just, what, and what do you ascribe that to?

The fact that he can pull it off? Yeah, why is he so healthy? Well, genetics. I mean, it's some really is when you get right now too. Genetics play a role. I feel like genetics is a little overhyped compared to lifestyle. It's always germs and genetics.

And I think they are out of proportion to what it really is, more which is how we live. Well, which is, you know, drink poisons, which we're doing to not get it. And exercise regularly and watch your diet. I drink so, compared to how I used to drink, you know, I already said to the kids today, when like you're 30, your body's almost too good,

almost too good because the fucking beating you can give it. Yeah. And not pay. Yeah. See, we pay. Why are we so careful now? Because we know the price in long-term health and just tomorrow, or that night, or you know, it's just not on the menu.

How about just not getting a good night's sleep? I'm just destroying the next day. Which is a bad thing. It was never like that. You know, I needed, for some reason here, into this as a doctor, I went to, I usually sleep pretty good, although it may take me 10 hours in bed

to get eight hours to sleep. Yeah, I know that. That's okay, I know what you mean. But I get it. Yeah. I'm lucky. I can, most people are not that lucky. They have to get it worth an alarm.

Yeah. I'm lucky and I appreciate it. But I went to Jacksonville a couple of weeks ago. I did Birmingham, woke up, saturday, my normal time, 11 a.m. Flutter Birmingham, Alabama, to the show, flew to Jacksonville, Florida where I was playing the next night. Never slept. That night, all the next day,

did the second show in Jacksonville on no sleep, couldn't even sleep on the way back on the plane. From the moment I left LA, two cities, two shows later, I never slept. That, why? Is that something where your brain just forgets how to turn off for no apparent reason? You mean, you go too bad and you just respite and you couldn't sleep? Yes, just, and I'm not.

Yeah, this I've had some nights like that too. They're almost inexplicable sometimes when they're... I'm some saying, it's like my body forgot how to just turn off. Yeah, and sometimes I think there may be some sleep in there, you're just not perceiving it. That could be. I think that's part of it in there, you're just not perceiving it. That could be. I think that's part of it, but it certainly is not quality sleep. But it was a good test of whether I lost my marbles,

because as you age, you wonder, you know, and but to be able to do that second show on no sleep and not fuck it up. Well, that's a deal. I hope you didn't give me a COVID and dip theory and I'm fucking with it. I bet COVID twice, I'm with you. Twice?

Twice, that COVID. Did you have a twice? No. No. I had alpha and then I had amochron. Oh, Jesus. It was awesome. Were you suffering either time?

Alpha was rough. I was the first one. I was trying to get the vaccine and I got sick. Alpha was rough. That was why the vaccine. Yeah, I was trying to get the vaccine and I got sick long story. So was it compared to a bad flu? What was it? He was no way worse.

Way worse. It was nasty. I had a moderate to severe case and the monoclonal antibodies turned it around. Like instantly it was unbelievable. I mean that first, you know, the thing when it first came out had sharper claws. Yeah. It's, it was a rough, horrible thing. It's a horrible illness. There are lots

of horrible illnesses. This was, it was horrible. It's not that horrible anymore. No. Omokron was, if you've had, if you have natural immunity or, and, or good, vaccination status, Omokron was nothing. I mean, what I keep saying just on an anecdotal level is that, I mean, I can read the statistics of there are a couple of thousand people still dying a day, or they were as if whenever we're showing this a week in February. So, OK, everybody, I've known so many people.

I'm sure I got it, and didn't know I had it, which is the case for most people. I'm sure I got it and didn't know I had it, which is the case for most people. Okay. But how could it be that everybody I know who had it, vaccinated and unvaccinated, has said it was nothing. It was like a hangover. I had it for five hours. It was a cold.

And what I said, it tells me that if there are still people dying from it, it's such an unhealthy country to begin with that even this mild thing can take you out. It is people who are, it's not exclusively, there are, I've seen, it is from credit cases where Omokrana has been pretty nasty, any young person seen it. But for the most part, it's the risk population, it's the elderly. It's people with multiple medical problems. That's who is tipped over. They were always tipped over by infectious diseases. Of course.

And everything else. That's my whole thing is that, you know, unless we get into our heads that the people have to participate in this battle. We'll be in shit. This is just the beginning. It'll always be something, and the answer will never be to, like, okay, you have to just meet us halfway. If we're this unhealthy to begin with, any little thing is going to cause a panic,

and make us do, live crazy lives, mask them. It's like we become hysterical. Tested every fucking week. It's just like, come on. We become histrionic. We become hysterical. Right. It's very intriguing to me.

Where did this come from? I started to read more books about crowds and manias and madness of crowds and stuff because it's so uncanny to me. What was the thing at the beginning of it? Didn't you say something that they lost their shit about it? Yeah, so first of all, I was saying, I could see the panic coming. I could see that what they were doing in Wuhan

was what the journalist were pointing at and saying, we have to do that. And I thought, why? Literally, I had a local news broadcast for the first year of COVID. And when they decided to close the schools down, I brought a school board person. I said, who told you to do that?

What doctor decided that? No doctors, we think it's the right thing. Would they do that with any other issue? Would they be like, Johnson, local election, see what the Communist Party and China are doing? Why? What is their policy? I'd like a position. We need to make sure we follow it exactly.

Or maybe exceed it. And so that was going on. And so I became he it exactly. I know. I know. Exactly. And so that was going on. And so I got, I became hebristic. I overstated. I kept saying calm down, stop it, don't listen to these people. And at the time, it was just right. He was just right, but it was too much.

It was too much. I said too much. And I missed how infectious it was and how brutal it was for somebody. You told the truth. I know that's irresponsible. I know. And I was crucified for it. That's, yeah, there's so much crucifixion.

You saw what be... I don't like that. I don't need that. And I don't agree with her and she had just attacked me. And I still am going to defend. That's the whole point of free speech. It's also the point of being intellectually honest. You don't like cancellation.

You think it's a bad thing. And it gets everybody. You're not, don't think you're going to be excused. And also, I don't like it for her. I don't like cancellation. You think it's a bad thing. And it gets everybody. You're not, don't think you're gonna be a skin sensation. I don't like it for her. I don't like it for you. I don't believe she apologized. And effectively.

It's just, it's like, it's so communist. We make you kneel. Or if you know the story of King Henry IV, the emperor, Henry IV, the emperor, the way went to Neil in the snow at Kenosu. Do you know that from the spring? You're not a history. I am a little bit history, but not just British history. It's often referred to as the height of the power

of the papacy in the Middle Ages. It was 1077. And the Holy Roman emperor, the big dude in Europe. I forget what he did, but he pissed off the Pope. And the Pope made him travel to his country house in Kenosa, Italy, and Neil in the snow for four days and nights. And he was the emperor. Yeah, make it.

Yeah, I don't believe what he meant that. And like, she's on an opinion. It's a hard, and it's her opinion. It's a crazy fucked up opinion. Yeah. And I'm half Jewish. But it's, oh really? We escape the Ukrainian genocide,

which a lot of people don't even know about. You raise your kids Jewish? No. Oh, I mean, a little bit. You said a little bit. Instead of like, no, a little bit. Right, of course not. Jewish, I'm like you. I'm not. I'm not. I'm a little bit. Instead of like, no, a little bit. Right, of course not. You're like, you, I'm not.

I'm, I Protestant, you know? Sort of Protestant. I mean, it was Lucy Goosey, like with me. But definitely not Jewish. Definitely not. In fact, I thought she was for a long time. She has shicks of goddess to you. Oh yeah.

Well, but I didn't really, I didn't like clubs, although I like club random. Hey, I'm sitting right here. But I don't like clubs, although I like club random. I'm sitting right here. But I don't like things where people excluded. I really bother. I couldn't agree more. Yeah, and that's what bothered me about that. What's the best thing?

What's the best thing? There's a bad thing to be a hit piece on me in LA magazine, because I made a piece. I said an issue about, I mean, an issue of the vaccine passports, like excluding people. I don't like that. And especially African-Americans who have been mistreated by my profession for 200 years,

they don't trust us, they shouldn't trust us. Because of that distrust, you're gonna exclude them from a restaurant. That's not a personal choice. That's insanity. That's segregation. There's so much liberalism that went all the way around to woke, and then they just went all the way

around to exactly what good got what they just went all the way around to exactly what good liberals were always fighting. I mean, you know, it's just it's saying how are those stupid? Do we sound like old men completely? I don't care, you know, that's their dumb argument is always they never they never engage me on the merits of the argument because they can't because they lose. So it's like, oh, you're old. Yeah, but that's not an argument.

Maybe I'm also right. Maybe I'm right because I am old. Like, we're only the only stupidest country in the world that doesn't have the idea that older people generally are wiser, not always. You can be old and stupid. But in general, the more days you live, the more things you learn, the more things you've seen,

patterns over and over and over. Yeah, you do. You do. A thousand cases of the same thing in medicine. Okay, so maybe that's why you're beautiful when you're young and you're wise. I mean, like every country in the world is something. Thanks for giving us something.

On a very basic level. It's like the basic tradeoff of life. Only this dumb fucking country wants to posit wisdom and beauty in youth, and it just doesn't exist. No, that's exactly right. We've done it. We were growing up, they did it in the 60s. Huge mistake.

Did what? You get to posit wisdom in the youth. Remember? That's where it started, you know, right? That was the first go round with it, and then we kind of got over it. And they ended the war, yeah, because they didn't want to go. Exactly. And then they were like, you know, question, you know, what was it?

Don't leave anybody over 30. Remember that? And we were, we were, we were out of that. You're right. Well, I was a little young for that. And so we're, that was, I remember it though, I was a young adolescent. I remember it. Yeah, but like we were too young to go to Woodstock. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we wouldn't be too young today to go to a Travis Scott concert. But I would argue that it is right. I would argue it rained down on us though. We were young and we were seeing all this and it was, you know, the kids are about to die. Absolutely.

We were just like, oh yeah, I was 12 in 1968, which was the, if 67 was the summer of love, that was the summer of hate. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure you're a bright Jewish kid. And so I was aware of it. I was the one of the Democratic Convention in Chicago with the violence, the assassinations of Kennedy

and Martin Luther King. Because it was in one support. I mean, it was brutal. Yeah. It was a crazy time. But in the fact that we are idolizing that time and sort of bringing it back is really dramatic. Yeah, it was dramatic.

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I think you'll like this. There's a book out there called Albion Seed. Albion is the old name for the British Isles, like the ancient name. Oh, yeah, of course. And he in this book chronicles what was coming out of England and going where in the United States? There were basically three large, three or four large exodus from England. And one was like Quakers and one was New England

and their whole thing. And the other was the Northern folks in Scotland and Northern England and they went into the Carolinas and remained, did you were you a Game of Thrones fan? Yeah, sure. They were wildlings. They were like wildlings. They were wildlings. They were like wildlings. They were maniacs. They would go from village to village,

would take wives and steal them and marry them and fuck them. And they were nuts, alcohol, and Irish. Irish Scottish, Irish guys. The Irish guys. And gone with the wind. Yep. She's Katie, oh.

Oh, here. Katie Scarlett, oh, here. Yep. And the father has that accent. And I mean, when I first saw the movie, I'm like, what the fuck is this? The movie's about to sound. And it's like, can't you see Scarlett?

It's the only thing worth phasing for it. Worth phasing for it. That's right. And they were a certain kind of nutty. And then the really warlike, they were warriors, they were warlike. Warlics. And the really nutty ones, the really nutty ones,

thought it would be a good idea to get in a wagon and go into the West, the really nutty ones. I mean, think about it. The nuts came over here, the ones that were super crazy up in the North already crazy, decided it was a good idea to risk their life to come here. And then if they were really crazy, put their family in a wagon and go into the Native American

territory. Right. It's really crazy. And their family in a wagon and go into the Native American territory. Right. It's really crazy. And we wonder why we have, if you look at the mass shooters and stuff, a lot of them are in the West. And that's unsurprised me that much. It was, we were the nutty of the nutty settling out here and lots of addiction, lots of alcohols and lots of violence.

This country is all filled with people who had the courage and the craziness to run away. My family, Ukraine, to run away, to get out there. And there was not, that's a certain person that does that. Well, that is one reason why America is so successful or has been because of that. It's also a success. Of course, the people who got here were the most ambitious. Well, ambitious and also they did not want to be encumbered. They wanted to be free and independent. And it's weird when we, this latest are losing that. You think we're losing that?

We have, I know a lot of people have, it seems like it's very strange. I mean, as a country, the idea of like, you know, rugged, rugged individualism. Rugged individualism, yeah. I think we, I think you can make a case that we went too far with that and to have a little communal respect is not a bad thing. But now we've gone into some sort of weird territory where literally I was out jogging the other day and outside and a guy with an N95 mask recoiled from me like I was on fire. I don't know. And it was like, I just, I want to punch people.

I did too. I also, when I see young people with a mask walking outside, it makes me angry. Alone, I'm just like you grow a pair of balls. You fucking pussy. First of all, you've got the good immune system. And I mean, that just says how much that generation was raised to be afraid of their own shadow.

Or we have done such a crazy job of helping people understand how this illness works and who's really at risk and what the risk is. Did you see the study at a Stanford with the bike riding? They took all the bike riders and Stanford and looked at how many were wearing a helmet versus how many wearing a mask 20% helmet 60% mask on bikes at Stanford outside the brightest kids in the country Can you are a helmet when I master because

You get a little vigorous, you know you could I you could You get a little vigorous, you know, you could... I just, I can't anymore, I don't know. I know. And listen, early in the pandemic, one of the things I was asking, I would ask Corolla, I'd say, when do we become such a pussy? Where does that happen? Such a pussy. What did that happen?

I don't know. Well, it happened, Spull, when did it happen? It happened every day, over years. What do you think Ashahn's comments about it it being an issue of this is a very, this is treacherous territory, but I thought it was, he threw it down an interesting gauntlet. What did you say, Sean Pan? He said the men essentially become feminized and men need to be a man again. I said that fucking 20 years ago and like I remember getting, it was in my Broadway show

in 2003. And boy, I don't think they liked in my Broadway show in 2003. And boy, I don't think they liked it at the New York Times. You know, you can't be honest about that. Well, of course, I will and fuck everybody. But it's just one of those things. But yes, I had a long thing about how we have become a feminized society in the sense that there, and it's not like these traits.

It's a loaded term because the traits I don't necessarily think of as being owned by men. Right. But you know sensitivity over truth. That to me is an example of a feminized. And women shouldn't get blamed. They can be just as truthful and not sensitive. Men can be ever sensitive. It's just using those terms, and we should change the terminology for it. But that was the idea of those kind of safety being more important than anything. Safety is important, but we've lost the balance. That's what that means.

So I may have expressed it. No, I agree. 100%. That is the issue of getting the balance. That's what that means. So I may have expressed it. No, I agree, 100%. That is the issue of getting the balance right. It seems out of whack. Very, very... Well, we have become pusified, but I mean, every generation thinks that of the one after that. I mean, we were thought of this, Pussies.

Yeah, that's true. We weren't. Aren't we the main generation? Yeah, yeah. Wasn't that the Puss? Yeah. Okay, we the me generation? Yeah, yeah. Wasn't that the Tommers? That's us. Okay, we were already me. I remember he said that a bit about Whitney Houston's, you know, the greatest love of all is happening to me. Remember that song?

Yeah, I do. It was just, something you couldn't imagine 20 years earlier, somebody singing that anthem to them so. that's right me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me I mean, I thought it was gonna reverse optimistically after millennials. I thought Gen Z would go, and no, Gen Z's are even worse. Really? I don't know. I don't know them well enough yet. Well, they're the gen... Jonathan Height, I don't know what I hate. Yeah.

What is it? H-A-I-D-T. You know, but it's a wrong every time I'm terrible with names. Anyways, a great writer. I think he's the one who identified that all this woke shit that we think of has been going on for a very long time, it's really from 2015. That's when you start with microaggression and safe spaces and cry rooms. And it's just like the millennial thing got even greater. Yes.

Even more sensitive. Like just everything. There's an interesting kind of piece in there I always thought about, which is, you remember when we were kids, you didn't want to be the man. The man was to be pushed against. You know, there wasn't cool, yes.

Sure. And I think our generation grew up sort of not wanting to be the man and they're not wanting to be the adult either. Right, oh. And so college administrators refused to do their job of being the adult because they don't want to be... They remember when they were in college and were demonstrating against the college administrators, they didn't want to be like them. They just refused to do their job. It's the same thing. Same thing with parents. No, and it leads all the way through society.

The whole woke thing to me is like the Democrats, the leaders of the party, they're the parents, they're the college administrators, and just like in homes and in colleges, they won't tell the people, the kids who are acting crazy, you're acting insane, buckle down, shut up, listen, they let them run the asylum. And so they run the media, they run a lot,

and the ideas are very often loony, but it all starts to me with the parenting. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. And I was one of those parents. I was a... Tulian? I was not a lenient. And I really...

One thing we didn't talk about at the bar was my kids really, really worked hard academically. And their peers did too. They were doing all the sports and the this and they really, really worked hard academically. And their peers did too. They were doing all the sports and the this, and they really, really worked hard. And we thought about that as evidence of us being, you know, good parents. We were getting them to perform

because that's what our parents were always trying to do to us. We were sort of slackers a little bit in our generation. And we missed the fact that I don't know that somehow we weren't being adult enough with them in terms of what we participated with them and all that. What do you kids think about the fact that you have such a good sex life with their mother? You know, that has only become sort of part

of the public conversation recently. Because I do a show called After Dark with Thompson Gurra's platform over there. It's not a half-dare show. It's a little... Yeah, no. It's a little... This is by a way, a little bit like that.

But, you know what I mean, after Dark stuff. Oh, okay. But this show is really sort of a new incarnation of Love Line. But I've had my wife on a few times when she has sort of unloaded some facts and I was like, all right, here we go. Can I do it? Sure, of course, hell yeah, anytime. We do it in Austin though.

You have to be in Austin to do it. I can zoom you in. That's where everybody is for the- You live in Austin? No, I fly down there to do those podcasts. Once a week? No, no, like once a month. Oh, okay.

Yeah, Austin is becoming the new something. Yeah, what? The new what? When is AirRage? I don't know. It's will, I guess the guys go down there because they want to be free. Yeah.

You know, I want to be free too. I mean, there's a lot about Gallup being that pisses me off. But, you know, I tell you, I can't leave club random. I, you know, it's like- There's a lot here. There's a lot here. This year, I never understand this.

The climate, a giant disaster, the weather delightful. Because they're in the year. It is. Right, little more rain. A little cooler. We had a little rain. Yeah, it's good. Not nearly enough. But my wrong about that was not this 2021.

Wasn't the weather basically the light. Yes, beautiful. Welcome to Southern California. You know, it's funny. It's like, it's, I thought of you, oh shit, I'm having a COVID block. This is what happens to me still. And look who's got the joy in this.

I know, but I do at least once an hour, I'll do this thing where I'll be in the middle of a conversation. And then it's like, I'm claiming that on COVID. No, I'll tell you why. With aging, it goes away. It doesn't come back with COVID. It's back within 180 seconds. What is? I thought it just comes back. Right. But you're blaming that on COVID that you have only noticed it since COVID. I had the blocking of aging and it goes away and that's the end of it. But this is very unique. You know, I don't have COVID problems like that. I remember who Ernest Borg. And he was great at I station C Brown area. He was great. It's so funny when you're a kid and

you watch in our era and you watch sitcoms. You're watching people who were movie stars in another era that your parents were. We didn't know that. And we didn't know it. You know what, I didn't know Fred McMurray at a movie career. I didn't know Ernest Borgnayne and a movie career. I didn't all these people.

And yes, Ernest Borgnayne was Marty. I had the craziest conversation. But then I loved him on McCale's Navy. That's what we watched him name. Case commander, McCale. But they lined loved him on Macal's Navy. That's what we wise to mean. MacKase Commander Macal. 100%. And then what's the other Poseidon adventure? Yes, he was. He was married to the whole.

That's right. To still his demons or whatever. But the old man was fun. I get proud of it. Oh, shit. Now what was I going to say? Now we brain his diary. Look, I have a killer. I'm funny. I'm drinking your killer. Oh shit, now what was I gonna say? Now my brain is tiring. I'm drinking your tea, love.

I'm drinking your tea, love. I'm drinking your tea, love. I have a good excuse. And you, your excuse is over. The murderous court done. It's fucking lame. Oh, I had the craziest conversation with Don Wells. Do you do Don Wells?

Well, of course it. Marianne from Gilligan's Island. Marianne, when Gilligan got busted for it, pot. Cause he lived like an Oklahoma. And Gilligan got busted for it pot. Cause he lived like an Oklahoma. He was getting it through the mail. You know who was sounding it to him? Don. Yeah, that sounds like her.

She was pretty cool, Jake. And she said, she told me this story that what's her name, Natalie Holloway, if you may have missed this, how? Natalie, the issue, but she was a famous movie star. Oh, it's a Melzzy. I didn't star. Oh, it smells like you didn't know that. Huge movie star. I don't know that.

Huge. And she said she and Natalie were at pinks, getting a hot dog. Gilgons Island had been on the air two or three weeks and a crowd gathered at the window to watch them eat their hot dog. And she said, Natalie, she goes, how weird that you have this huge movie career,

nobody noticed you, and now we are fucking cartoon characters on television, and we will get enough of us. And I thought that was a really interesting observation. And that's funny. How great is it, though, that Mary Ann got Gilligan in this fucking dope? Yeah. She cared.

She cared, and she loved him. And that was, and they did a series together. And you know, it's who, everybody becomes friendly with who they work with at work. Yep. That's right. I mean, I remember the guy at,

was that McDonald's? Yeah, I think he was the CEO of McDonald's. I think he had to step down because he was dating someone and people meet people at the office. Yeah, I know. I don't know how you manage it. You have to get attorneys involved just to have the relationship. But that's where people meet. I know what you're saying, but there is a history of abuse of authority, right?

And so when there's a positional imbalance, the person underneath gets protected by law. But that should be if the woman is complaining about it. Yeah, I know. This is not, I just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just,

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and it's working for us. And now you all come in, I remember Elliot Spitzer, the disgraced, because he, you know, it's all prostitute. He, yes, in Washington, it's Friday, because he was always like volunteering to do testimony in Washington, because that's where the hooker was. So, he'd be like, you know, This child tax credit thing. I'm awfully good on it So he had an excuse to go to Washington. Yeah, and I say that I like the guy

But I always thought that was kind of funny. You know Amber's law. I think I could be a real voice Victimless crimes or I got something to say about that. Mo hair subsidies Victim of crimes, well, I got something to say about that. Mohair subsidies, I am. I've been all over that issue for a long time. A day with is troubling, though, is that so many people that project stuff that's going on in them out to the world, that's a problem. Has it been an oiz, man? That's been an out of control.

It's a narcissistic thing, and it's been out of control lately. That people see the things they disavow in themselves. Oh, yes. Yes. And projecting and mind reading and also very destructive. But really, it's not how it works. And that's how it works. How was your fucking ego, man?

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I've also noticed one thing that COVID taught me is that people have a fundamental bias. They either have an optimism bias or a pessimism bias. And mine's an optimism bias. I'm a little, I want to cheer on, I want to move through, I want to minimize the negative. And that today is considered dangerous or something. The pessimism bias controlling this.

What determines which one you get. We don't know. It's just sort of a cognitive bias. You know, why people arrive at the certain biases they have. I have trouble telling where you're at. I always thought you'd let a little pessimism bias. I do. You know what?

It depends. You know, I always say, if there's something to worry about, I will worry about it. Yeah. So it's made me a very careful person in my life in general because I don't want to give myself something to worry about, I will worry about it. So it's made me a very careful person in my life in general because I don't want to give myself something to worry about. Also, I don't do anything bad, you know? I was raised by Bill and Julie Marr.

They knew what they were doing, and they didn't raise an asshole. And you know, I mean, certainly. But at my moments, you know, like what's, the days we discussed it's a reality. It's a matter of time. We were, it's Christmas. We were unholy terr know, like, the days we discussed it that we asked when it's over. I mean, we were, it's Christmas. We were unholy terrors, like in the 90s. We really were, but boy, did we have a good time.

But if I was my 28 year old self, I would say, you know, I was born on the cusp, astrologically. Aquarius and capricorn. When I was in my 20s, I put credence into this. I don't like completely disavow anything because we don't know what the fuck, but I really don't. I don't know, but it's funny. I was a talkative, it is when you're here. Anyway, they did the chart and they said, truth people, you were born at 1032 at night,

you were to the minute on the cost. Wow. And a career is supposed to be like a creative, you know, that's a lot of ideas. More optimism. Yeah. Capricorn, the goat, is more like you get things done. You know, and there's many ways I can only be singular, you know.

Anything I try to do, where you have to use, like a lot at once, like piano, couldn't write a motorcycle. You know, I could never play drums. I'm good at, I can't write a screenplay really, because it's many characters. I'm good at focusing on one thing and telling you, this is what I think, this is what it is, and drive toward a point.

That's the capricorn. You know, it's interesting, and yet within that you have creative insights. That's why I think, this is like my sex makes you live longer theory. I'm just foaming it out of my ass kind of, but astrologically, it's like my sex makes you live longer theory. I'm just pulling it out of my ass kind of. But astrologically, it's like, I get the ideas from the gochewarius, and then the Capricorn makes them,

because the gochewarius tend to go off in the air and you have too many at once. Well, let's at least put a chord, let's at least say this. Whatever it is, just words describing concepts. It does accurately describe your constitution. So maybe I'm both optimistic and pessimistic. It's kind of how I experience you. I mean, I can turn to pessimism, but I gotta like, you know,

not if I like have to like suffer. That would be bad, you know. I mean, well, but for instance, I mean, the pessimists were definitely in control during COVID, you know, everything. And just the fact that you're saying you've got to live, you have to take risks. That's all the optimism lies.

But some people are happier, not happy. Sort of not based on the things which you would think would make them happier, not happy. Whereas I think mine are actually aligned to that. Like, no one gets to this age without having had health issues. I've had them, we're not gonna go into detail, but when you have to think about your health

all the time for a period, I'm sure you've had the same thing. I have all kinds of stuff. Like, nothing is really fun. Nothing is really good. You're getting me on the end of an episode of Diverticulitis, which had me like so fatigued and what? What is that? Diverticulitis, it's a,

I've heard the word. Okay, these are outpouching from here. It's like having appendicitis on the left side as opposed to the right, caused by a little different process. And it's... Of course it's diverted. Genetics, these little pouches in your colon

that get infected and filled and you get sick. And they knock me down for three weeks. I just start to feel a normal today. How do they treat it? Well, antibiotics, lots of antibiotics. And then, and then, and then now that this has gotten so bad for me, they got cut out that piece of coal. And so I'm going to see a surgeon on Monday.

Oh, really? Yeah, because I'm sick of this shit. I'm so I'm going to take care of it. This is ridiculous. Oh, getting old socks. Look how I got my prostate out. But you look great. I look great. I still fuck my wife regularly.

This is, yes. Can I ask you a question about this? Please, I know that it treats you great. It so does. And this is a question I kind of want to ask any married person. I'm not in a snarky way. I'm just like, because it's based on like, remember, I've been in long-term relationships. You know, when you're in a long-term relationship, where you've already been with the person a lot. Yeah.

You're living together. How do you know when to throw down sex? Yeah. Throw down. It's, it is, I just never got, I never noticed that. It is different for different couples at different times. Is there a queue? Is there a queue?

It's, it's weirder than that. Because I tell you why, because sometimes women have this thing where they want to be approached, and then they find an appealing one which you do. It's like this weird, come after me, but not right. It's weird. They can be sort of, they want to affirm that they're attracting. They want to know that actually bon you.

Sometimes. But, and so, they're usually, they're struggling, usually what happens is, no, usually what happens is the relationship works out as set of cues. You sort of set a cue.

You sort of set a cue. That was my guess. And the cue. I was mine, yes. And the more playful, the more funny they can be, the better they need to be utilized. And be prepared to have your partner say, not right now, but make sure that everyone's getting their needs met regularly. So not right now, it's not that big a deal.

Feel deflated, but people always ask me, what is this? I am as into my wife now, as I was when I first met her. And that's insane. That's insane. So the luckiest man. So it's lucky. B, it was my instinct that I really, really, really

was into this person. She's a specimen still at 60. I just looked at whatever. And you know, Suzanne Summers talks like that. I know. I've heard her say it. I've heard her say the same thing. Do you ever think it's cheating with her? No, just not not recently

Trying to fuck up your life, which is working perfectly What? It's up in the dig right into you That's a nightmare And then and then the other thing it's it's like recovery from alcoholism. It's one day at a time What what do you mean in the sense that today? I'm just as into as I was yesterday and as long as I'm into it today I probably will be into it tomorrow. That's kind of interesting. It's kind of like you have amnesia.

There must be a certain amnesia because to most, the vast majority of men, what is exciting is the new, in this. That bit I used to do in my old active, made like anyone who was with a stick up there has hate me, had a bit about that because it was after the Hugh Grant Yeah, yeah, and I said what people it's like how could he do it? He has Elizabeth Hurley at home and I was explaining them. It's not about Beautiful or not. It's about old or new. It's kind of about big tits or small tits or blonde hair It's like old and that has a name. Do you know what it's called?

It's called the Coolidge Effect. The Coolidge Effect. Do you know why it's called the Coolidge Effect? Because Calvin Coolidge was a famous pussyhead. Well, that. But... Well, that is so... No, they used to maintain federal farms.

And once a year, the first lady in the president would go tour the farms. They just sort of a formal. So it is Calvin Coolidge. Calvin Coolidge. Okay. He went to my college. They toured the farms.

They toured the federal farms. They maintained federal farms. And one year, the... Why is for a family or something? I don't know what the history is of why we had that. It sounds like a post-Sovar kind of thing that went into the early 20th century. And the first lady was the first group to arrive at the chicken coop.

And the farmer held up his prize rooster and said, this is first lady, I just want to point out to you, this is our prize rooster. He can copulate at least a hundred times a day to which Mrs. Coolidge said, please point that out to the president when he comes around. And the former was deflated and embarrassed. And so she moves on. And now the president comes, Calvin Coolidge is there, he goes, Mr. President, your wife, the first lady,

asked me to point out to you our prize rooster, who's able to copulate at least 100 times to the day, to which Coolidge said, with the same chicken. And that became the Coolidge effect. Is that like in books? It's if you Google it, if you Wikipedia, you'll find the Coolidge effect. You know, he was, but he was on a silent cow.

Yep. I mean, apparently he was very, look, not loquacious. Yeah. And the story is, some woman came up to him in a White House event and said, my husband bent me. I couldn't get three words out of you tonight. And he said, you lose.

He was apparently very funny and very clever. Well. But very, very, what do they call it? Well, the Coolidge stories. I'm only going to tell about four or five. He went to my college, do I hear all about it? You went to Amherst College, I got it. So, good.

This is so fun. God bless, Club Random. What's my college, do I hear all about it? You went to Amherst College, I got it. Oh, goodness. This is so fun. God bless Club Random. You need to, yeah, come here more. You know what I mean? It sounds like, I mean, I've never really got high with you. You know, and fucking, fucked up. You're really a great company.

I always liked you, but I never knew you like this. Well, let's do more of this. I'm delighted to be. I always had affection for you and I had admiration for your thinking. You don't back down from what you know to be brashly so. And that's... Yeah, it gets more and more onerous to do that. It seems like it, but it's more and more important though. Well, one reason I wanted to do this is because, and you know, I am giving up nothing from my real job. Right.

I am not stealing one minute from my normal work week. I work on that show a lot. I got it. And this, obviously not at all. It's a completely different thing. It's between a jam band and making sergeant pepper. That's right. I'm really making it the biggest one.

No, that's right. And people want to hang out at the chance band for your play. Hopefully you want to do both. Yeah. But the stress in, you know, just this atmosphere we live in, where everyone is just trying at all times to just get a scalp on the wall. It's so much bad faith.

They don't care about social justice half of them. They just want to find something to get somebody on, you know? And in that atmosphere, you's like people can't relax the way they used to. I remember the show, one of the shows we did after 9-11, obviously, the one where I got fired from, but one of those, or maybe it was that show, maybe it was early in that show. And one of the guests said, you know, we're all sitting here very nervous. Like, we could get lost or canceled, they didn't have the word cancel, but that's what he was saying. And maybe one of the first references to that phenomenon.

Interesting. We're all worried that we're going to say the wrong thing. Maybe it is after I must admit that, what I was going to be a goner. Okay. And I feel like that's now a permanent condition. Yeah, it is a permanent condition. And it, you know, my goal was always from the beginning

in TV. Can I get real talk on tell? Because usually the two are just so far from each other. I know. I mean, I like a lot of these hosts personally, but, you know, the show is just not like them. And it's always been an effort to get more and more... You're going to love doing this. I do love doing it.

Because it's just what I would be doing anyway, I don't want to do it. It's what you'd be doing anyway. It's authentic. Yeah. And you don't have all that infrastructure, you can just deliver yourself directly to an audience who wants to hang out with you. and you don't have all that infrastructure, you can just deliver yourself directly to an audience who wants to hang out with you. It feels like you're always in a lot of areas,

but certainly media. You have to be like one step ahead of the law, and as far as like, it's so true. You know, right? Like where can we go that we're not like counted? And I'm sure the fucking over-regulate this shit, and you know, it's always, yeah.

But it's funny that my image of podcasting, sometimes you have a, I'm sure you know, a something stuck in your brain. And then one day you realize, oh, I needed to update that four years ago, and you don't, because you just didn't think about it. So you still have the old, and my last, so a couple of years ago, my last image of podcasting was like when it was new.

It was different. A lot of guys were getting it, and I was like, and I heard about friends of mine, and so I told my agent one day, and she's like, what, why can't I get a podcast? And they went, you fucking moron, the people's bringing podcasts, want what you have.

Yes. That's right. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. But that changed. That changed. I mean, and again, my love is my real show. I feel like it's for grownups. Yeah.

But the amount of grownups in America is getting smaller and smaller. I would argue. This is for everybody. Yeah, I agree with that. But I would argue your voice has become... I hope so. But again, it's only the grown-ups watching. I mean, last week we talked the subjects where I thought about it.

The subjects were the ACLU and NATO. Now, if I said that to the average person on the street under 40 especially, what's that? Which one, both? Do they know what the ACLU is? Do they know what NATO is? I mean, I will never not want to do the show for grownups, because again, I do think it's important.

Where this country is really going to come apart in three years. Well, it's time for the grown-ups to be adults. The adults are room to be adults. It's time. It really is. And who do you define as the adults? Well, people that are willing to speak honestly and frankly and to, you know, you know, it's, it's just, and people to say no to other people. You know, I, there's not be so partisan and be like, you know, not everything has to be either Trump or a woke, you know, I mean,

that's why I feel, when I'm, I think I did last week on the show, show was about kind of like barking back at the people who say, maybe you've changed. I didn't know I saw that. Oh, good. I get that shit too. That's what the early times, early times. I didn't tell you the amazing articles. He used to be so smart.

I didn't change it all. You all have changed. Exactly. You have moved the goal close to you. Exactly everything. I am exactly the way I always looked. Me too. Yeah. I said, I am was. Me too. Yeah.

I said, I am the same pot smoking, unmarried, childless, liberty, and I always was. I said, you can accuse me of a lot of things, but not maturing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the club random. Yeah, that's the same.

And I haven't seen you, Jay. No, and we'll look at a lot of this too. And he's exactly the same. Saying precisely the same He's always more right wing than I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're crazy right, but neither of you are saying I'm not hearing you say anything different than I heard you say for you to go no, no, I mean they change the goalpost Oh my god, and so But that's okay because I feel like there is a I hear it from people people all the time. There is a hunger for what we're talking about.

People have not completely forgotten sanity. Correct. And common sense. Correct. I'm getting on the road for the first time ever. Politically mixed audiences. Oh, that's interesting. That never happened.

That's good. That's healthy. Very good. Yeah. And I see, like, I'll do Trump lots of scathing Trump jokes. And they're trumpers there who are not really buying it, but they laugh. That's funny. And he's a preposterous figure.

They understand that. And then liberals just said, I've seen some people like, oh, when I that. I mean, so, and then liberals, I said, I've seen some people like, oh, when I start, I mean, I see some of that. But basically everybody is laughing together. We gotta get back to that. I mean, this country has gotta get back to not hating each other, to be able to sit down

with anybody. We always look to comedy for that. I mean, where have the comedians been? The comedians usually push back on the man instead of they become the man. Exactly. They become the same with the musicians. Neil Young, you think Neil Young was not their fighting against a man. He became the man all of a sudden.

You are the man, dude, that thing you hated the most. It's unbelievable. It's so right about that. That's such a perfect, great theme. Yeah. Yeah. And it's sort of almost inevitable as we age. That's a lot of people are going to get picked off by that. I remember being at a party about five years ago, and I'm not going to say who it was, but a Hollywood actor, never a giant star as an actor, but kind of an iconic figure.

And about 10, 15 years older than me, I certainly saw him in movies when I was a kid and wanted to be him. And so I'm at this party and we got to talking. I used to hang out with him a little bit. He was such a great looking, but also nice, like played against type. So he told me that night that not only had Obama ruined the country, but he did it on purpose.

And I'm like, yeah, on purpose. Tell me more. Right. And he's like, wow, you got sucked into the Fox News vortex. People do. They get sucked into the Fox News vortex. People do. They get sucked into this vortex. Well, they get in both, because I'm such a modern independent. I see the vortices on both sides.

No, they drive me crazy. No, people get sucked into a wolf vortex. And that's like, where did your mind go? My friend of mine just told me about a conspiracy theory. I was, I was, I not heard it. He was stunned that I not heard it. And I would felt guilty that I not heard it. He said, you help me out with this,

that there was a conspiracy amongst the state attorney generals, I think he said, to be able to desertify elections in multiple states. So if Trump loses the next election, they'll be able to overturn it. Oh, yeah. I never heard this. It's kind of crazy. Well, all this stuff is coming out now about how much Trump tried to steal, how much he tried to steal. Well, try to steal, but going forward, this is all he is.

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, they're gonna, it's gonna be worse than that. That's why I keep saying, if you have a time you want to, like, be out of the country for a couple of months, January, 2025, is when the shit is gonna hit the country for a couple of months, January 2025 is when the shit is going to hit the fan. You've said it. And I don't know what's going to happen.

I mean, in the funny the way the world's coming apart, but on a side of medical issues, life doesn't seem horrible. Life's never been better. Never been better. I mean, in terms of how long we live, how well we live, how much, how much nourish we are. Never feel personally. Has my life ever been better?

No, less to you is pretty much sucked, but in spite of them sucking, in spite of them sucking, I had a lot of sources of real happiness and enjoyed a lot of things. It's like, of course, would you want to be 30 years younger for health reasons, of course, but would I want to go back?

No, because if I still had to have that dumb ass brain, that's what I... I know, that's, and I was deep in workaholism, painfulness, holism, like really, I was in the middle. Just on a health level, and even though my body is much, of course, less able to fend off bad and create good at this age. I still think I'm healthier because I'm so much smarter about it.

The things I used to do to myself, sometimes knowingly, sometimes unknowingly, I feel like I'm so much smarter about it. I agree. Yeah, I agree. Speaking of doing things I want to do, one of the things I did, one of the many things I was going to bring up with you. Well, let me bring up the two things that had fled my mind. And now I remember one was, I go down to Texas to do podcasts.

And when I was down there, they immediately go, oh yeah, we're free to do whatever. No one gets to the way. We're free to do anything we want. And I thought, I thought it was kind of a little scary. And when they say that to you, it scares you. And you go, not everything. It's weird how when some people really talk about freedom,

it's excessive. I understand people wanted to like, control what comes out of factories, and you know what I mean, clear the air, maybe second-hand folks, so they went a little too far, but we can get the balance right, perhaps. Now, tell me this, as a person who studies the brain,

as you were saying that, I just remembered you singing karaoke down here across the world. You and me, not just me, it was the two of us. That I don't remember. I think I have a picture on my phone. I'm like, yeah, I trust you. And I think we were doing a... Why did I just remember that?

And all my long-learned love I just remember that? Maybe something about it. Maybe something about the way I said it or something. Isn't that funny? Yeah. Oh yeah, no, I remember that. Our brains are very interesting instruments. I've seen it. It's not just in the way they move the furniture.

And like, I've always been a good caveman by that. I mean, I've left evidence for myself of my past. I used to diligently write a journal, like it's been a whole day, like writing it, like I was writing it to the world. Yeah, on Adams. Like, really? I'm like, I'm a first draft, I'm writing to me, like every three months. I had it like the seventh day of January and April. Oh, fantastic. And I did it for years and years and years.

I feel bad that I didn't have jealousy to that. Is there anything worth while in it? Well, everyone's, you can check things. The point I was making was that I remember, I was telling this story, this hysterical thing that happened once with me, and this has got to be about late 80s, 90s. I was in a long relationship, and my girlfriend and I were somewhere on the road.

I'd probably a comedy club or something, and I remembered as Washington DC. I caught a sworn. I would have bet the house. And the story was, it was after the show, we wanted to get dinner. We'd come up to this restaurant. And like they're literally just coming up to the door to put the clothes on.

They all want to go home. And the owner sees that there's two customers. And he tells the guy, let him in. And they're like and the speed with which the dinner came and Like everything because they wanted to leave was We were like in tears laughing. It's like oh, yes, and I'll have the Literally the vacuum while we're still eating, you know

And I could have sworn this happened in Washington DC and then my diet vacuum, while we're still eating, you know, ee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e- constructed units and we if we make a mistake in one of the reconstruction it sticks you mean you're not son jay goof to not me and there's different qualities of memory too you have you may have interviewed uh... what's your name from taxi uh... oh i think we're going to do that you know she has a little bit of marley henna as perfect i had an experience

i remember her watching her with david letter on the Tonight Show in 1979 and she told me exactly what she was wearing and what their conversation was. Because I was very depressed watching and I've remembered it for some reason, she was exactly how I remembered it. It is amazing the complete, whatever it is, panoply of thought from itty it to normal people like us, to people like that who have a special quality like that, or I always say, everything that we love is because of like 20 people in history, 20 scientists who discovered the basic things. Why is that electricity?

Oh yeah. You know, like it's a very small number of people and they stood on each other's shoulders often, but Einstein and Newton and Copernicus, these people, and they figured out shit looking at the planets about light and infrared and how all this works. So we just sit here comfortably in our soft underwear and

with the electricity and there's heat. And could we figure out how to do any of it? No, no. This is the extraordinary phenomenology of the human experience, which is alone, we are helpless and worthless, but in a social setting, standing on the shoulders of one another, it's unbelievable. But especially in that area.

Science. We just glombed on technology. To the luckily, there was just this tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of people at the very top. That could do it. Who could figure it out, and they really shouldn't have gotten bigger royalties. You know what I'm just saying? if I was the agent for Isaac Newton,

I would have asked for a much bigger upfront. He lost everything in the South Sea bubble. He lost everything in the South Sea bubble. He gambled on the South Sea bubble and lost everything. Which was what? Two lips? It's like two lips, but it was a land thing, a land speculation thing. Really? Yeah, they're funny. A lot of those old dudes who did so much.

Well, how about the fact that they're all discarded now because they're old white dudes? That's really scary, that's unfortunate. I mean, I'm just saying, no one knows what I'm doing. I mean, dude. They're all dead guys. Oh, no.

I'm not that Apple I'm in my dick What did he do I see these guys they just We're excited. I know so who's wouldn't canceled. I mean the canceled Columbus Yeah, because he had slaves as everyone I hear this mostly in the rumble philosophy. Like, the philosophical discourse has no meaning because it's much old white guys thinking about things. Well, I mean, there is that.

I mean, that's another thing I do in my act because it just drives me not just like young people who think that they're somehow being enlightened by judging people from hundreds of years ago. And my argument always is to them is, do you think if you live back then, you'd have been fucking Nostradamus? Right.

And we're like, oh no, I can see that no, you would have done what everyone did back then. If you were way ahead of your curve, and were a highly moral person, you would have felt uncomfortable or concerned about it and still done it. You're not saying? It just, I don't think it's crossed their minds.

You know who's minds, it did not cross that slavery was wrong? Who's that? Everyone in the Bible. Right. It just doesn't cross their minds. No one, they make a million rules about slavery. Like if a man kills your slave, you make kill his slave.

Like, no one ever went, I'm not even f-, let's not do it. I'm with no slavery thing. No, that's maybe God doesn't like that. That's right. Okay, you know, I don't think it came up in the meeting. I really don't, it's just, that's where people were. Yeah.

I mean, we evolved, we evolved in our ideas, we evolved biologically. Right, I mean in 80,000 BC. Yeah. Would you not characterize sex as rape? Probably. I'm sure a lot of it was. Yeah, if not exclusively. I don't think it would, that's what I mean. Like lot of it was. Yeah. If not exclusively.

I don't think it would. I mean, like animals, don't ask each other out to dinner. I think we were still sort of in the animal phase. Yeah. Where, you know, she bent over at the stream and showed her bulbous buttocks. Yeah. And, you know, maybe this is still working for you.

It takes in soup. Yeah. And it's just my wife that does it. That guy came up behind. And I mean, you see that, I mean, should we cancel that? I know. They were technically humans. Well, that's the insanity. And Fred Flintstone.

The insanity of all this is that in consistency and the reality of evolution of history, there were supposed to be... Well, I mean, just as humans evolved... Yeah, as we grow older. So does mankind in general? Yes, society evolves from reality evolve. Right, ideal evolve.

We're doing it actually faster than we used to. Then we, maybe, should even. It's part of the problem. Right, but, I mean, not, but morally in general, I'm certainly on the page of the way we've evolved with civil rights. Absolutely. Obviously, of course, you know, it's actually insulting that we even have to like sort of say it. I mean, it should be assumed, trust me, you know, we're basic liberals who've always believed

and everyone should be treated equally and with dignity and with gay stuff. Oh, we've all been good spokesmen for that forever. I mean, it's just some... I think there was a shift from though, equality of opportunity to equality of outcome. That's indifferent, yes. And I think that's what's sort of shifted out.

And that is debatable. And that's something that should be debatable. But it's just a shame that I'm going back to where we're saying, you're always sort of like suspect in a way that like, oh, come on. Haven't we earned a little... This is a different action.

I know we earned a little trust. This is like I said, we're not fucking nice. I've got a hit article coming out on me to that effect. Like, he used to be this. Now, supposedly, it's what I'm hearing. I hit article. Yeah, I'll forget to you LA LA magazine and so on and so and it's all that stuff it's like oh he's so different now already it's it's all that projection of their disgusting material that they're putting on us I've been the same forever I'm not

chained right and you you have a bunch of stuff you're pouring out into the world that you want to look at I always say about the media. It's never about the truth. It's always about a narrative. Oh my God, which is, to me, the weirdest thing in the world is a scientist that's insane. But you know that's the truth. I absolutely don't think it has ever been thus. I just think it's worse now.

Don't care. The narrative is more important than the truth. That's the only problem. The narrative is more important than the truth. It is the only problem. The only thing. Dr. Drew is the same guy. It's not a narrative. That's the truth. It's the narrative.

It's Dr. Drew change. See, there's some moral things. Yeah. Doc, my battery's dying. Yeah. And then there's my agent battery is dying too, not a forerquely. And also my microphone's dying.

Great to work. Really a pleasure. I'm going to chuck in to the ship with you. We're going to hang out some more. I'm going to chuck around if I'm coming.