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Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Bill kicks back with Sopranos star Drea de Matteo for an unfiltered hang that runs from Italian pride to behind-the-scenes lore – casting authenticity and on-set memories. Drea opens up about career turbulence, agency fallout, and her OnlyFans pivot. They also trade takes on Catholic school, politics, spirituality, AI’s impact on work, art vs. ideology in entertainment, and the tough math of streaming, strikes, and residuals. They even lament vanishing bees – earning Bill the nickname “Snow White” – before one last reveal: his latest hotel alias. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Advertisers: Go to https://zbiotics.com/RANDOM and use RANDOM at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to: https://www.wildalaskan.com/RANDOM. It’s summer, and it's time to heat up your strategy before your competitors beat you to it. Go to ⁠⁠https://www.RadioActiveMedia.com⁠⁠ or text RANDOM to 511-511. Message and Data Rates May Apply. Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: [e-mail] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You were like snow fucking white, Bill. No. No, you held up amazingly well. Well, thanks. You look pretty much the same. No. It's when we, well. But thanks.

No, really, because it is a great variance how people age. I mean, there are people who are almost the same age or the same age, and you look at them and like, wow, one looks like 10, sometimes 15 years older. A lot of it has to do with movie stars. They're out in the sun all the time. I'm in the sun. All the time? I love it.

But you don't wear any sun. Well, you're Italian, right? Yeah, but I'm see-through white, but I just got back from a trip. You look like you just got a healthy tan. I'm very tan right now. I was away for a big vacation. Oh, really? Where'd you go?

I was in Italy for four weeks and then Greece. So you've obviously have strong feelings about your heritage. Or do you? I don't know. Yes, I do. I love being Italian. It's my favorite thing. I mean, that's one thing I've got to say about the surprise.

Prano's like he did not hire one person who wasn't actually Italian that I can think of for an Italian role if every year even if it was a guest Bouchemmy you know whoever was the like guest sort of like arc even that person was Italian obviously Stevie Van Sant not Italian but I think he is like I said he's Italian too the Nancy Marchand maybe not okay that's probably right but I mean it was it was I mean same with you know

Al Pacino and Marlon Brando it's like not not Jamie Kahn I didn't get a part on the show because

he didn't think I was Italian enough but because I was Italian he asked me to play just some

you know the hostess this is my favorite to just watch you drink this is iconic for me

to sit here with you I'm going to interrupt myself what are you what are you drinking I'm drinking

I'm drinking 818 in the hopes of getting the Kardashians to come on this show. That's their booze. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris was here, but so far, you know, they're avoiding me. I don't know why women have a great time here. We're going to have a great time. Well, there aren't that many chicks on your show, right? There's not many chicks on any guy's show.

This is one of the big problems with this country is that, you know, we're just going in opposite directions in every possible way that matters. Certainly politically, we'll talk about that, but also just like gender. Like, guys are not interested in what the chicks are talking about. They're not... What aren't the chicks talking about? Who the fuck knows? I'm a guy.

I don't know. I'm not interested. No, I'm kidding. But guys are much more interested. Yes, they, in subjects that might veer into, I mean, certainly the bro shows. Some of it's about protein powder and like making your dick hard, but a lot of it is political. Yeah. And a lot of it, to my view, is political wrong, but at least it's like on the subject.

It's not just Travis Kelsey and Taylor Shrimp are getting engaged. I mean, did you see this today? No, I don't, I see, I don't even know. You didn't hear that they're getting, they got to get. I saw it last night because my girlfriend's staying with me, and so the news is on it. The TV's never on in my house, but she was watching TV, and I was like, oh, I was like, that's cute. Like I'm trying to, what's that now? That's how I'm just roofing myself.

What did you, what did you, what do you got? I go through this every show. Sorry, no, no, it's natural for people to say. These people better fucking send me a case of steaks or like the head of Alfredo Garcia or something. I don't know, but like every week I plug this. I love it. I do like it. It's jing.

It's a way to make like just sparkling water into soda, like diet soda, but without any chemicals. Would you like some jing? I want to know what the hell this is. I'm going to need glasses now. Where are my glasses? This should be called the Jing. It's like the Jing Hour with Bill Maher. Jingling?

Is this like, put a little jingling in your fucking cup? Yeah, well, Jing. They used to, you know, like name the variety shows on TV. The sponsor would be like, the Kraft Hour with Danny Kay, you know? That's how they used to do TV. Like the sponsor got right in the name before the star. It's funny to watch everybody that used to being on television, all these news folks, even yourself, doing your own commercials now instead of seeing the commercials come on and to see you guys reading the commercials. I mean, I did it once too, myself, but...

You mean, here figures of podcasting, yeah. Yeah, I mean, HBO is such a great place for many reasons, but one is no commercials and you don't ever have to, like, stop the show and saying, and now a word from Del Monte. Yeah. How long have you been there for now? 2002, so 23 years. I know. That's amazing. It is amazing.

I know. That's amazing. And nine years before that on Politically Incorrect, and there was only a six-month break between them. I've been on TV since 93 doing similar shows. The first one certainly was sillier, but it was still a issue show. Yeah. So, you know, for all the people who hate me, for all the wrong reasons, it's like, I just want to say to them, somebody up here is to like me. I love you. I love you. I'm here for it, man.

I know that, you know, we don't agree on everything politically, but nothing bugs me more than people who won't talk to people. I know. You know, or, you know, they gave me all that shit because I had dinner with Trump. I know. I'm sure you saw that. And, like, fuck you. I welcome your hatred. That is the stupidest thing in the world not to talk to people, especially when it's the president.

I knew you would. And I just want to ask them, is the next question that you have or the next place we have to go, okay, so I'm not allowed to talk to the president of the United States. What about people who voted for them? Can I talk to Sylvester Stallone? Is that all right? You know, can I talk to you? You know, it's like, shut the fuck up.

Get out of here. I mean, that's going around. I mean, we lost so many friends. And I don't really even care about. friends you say oh yeah i mean or you know i don't really i have a small but a lot of people i mean i've just been i've you know canceled whatever i i don't really care but i don't and i also don't really care who the president is well you should well you should well you should well you should well you should care about both you certainly should care who the president is and i'm sure you do care about your career

and i did i did i had a moment where it was like holy shit this is happening this is real i have to stay in my lane now. I was never, I never cared about politics. And then you do get over. I would say the analogy for me, my situation is not quite as severe as yours because they did, like, you are like white listed, which is what they call it,

when they won't hire a conservative. I'm not even a conservative. Yeah, that's even the more fun part of it all. Right, right. I'm just a disruptor, I guess. But if you're, if you voted for Trump, then you're just, in this category and that's my analogy to that would be up until 2014 they nominated me for an

Emmy 40 times never would give it to me I got it I was still not little woke enough and then after 2014 it was like oh we wouldn't even nominate you anymore and I'm like really I see what the competition is are you really telling me I'm not even in that running I'm please is this is this It's not even close, but that's like, that's a type of, that's a lesser cancellation. And I have the same feeling as I think you do on this, which is like, at first you're like pissed about it, and then you're like, oh, you know what, I don't care. You beat that out of me. I really don't care.

So if you're at that place where you really don't care if they hire you, because you still could do, you know, you look good, you're obviously in that age. range where I think actors are their best when they've like done it for a while and they know how to like act without even get getting caught at acting yes you know I would I probably was getting caught definitely in the last few years really oh yeah I wasn't even it didn't feel like a huge loss for me except for financially I didn't really care about it I think I never cared about it as much after I did the Sopranos I think I did it I conquered it right I won you know I didn't think I never thought that those things were important in my life,

but it happened, and I was there for it. And then after that, I sort of felt like, I don't know what could be better than this. I don't know who could be better than this. Yeah, you were a key part of the show that more than any show ever got critics, not that they're always right, but they did come all over the face of that show in a way I've never seen. I mean, like things like...

I love it. We speak the same. I love it. Things like it is the greatest cultural achievement of the last 50 years. I mean, and it was a very good show. I watched every episode, and I love the Sopranos like so many people did. It was great. I mean, David Chase was a genius film. It was brand new, too.

It was a new medium to have something on cable like that. Yeah. They had only a couple of shows. Yeah. No, it really put HBO on a completely different level. Yeah. And it had something for everybody. I think that was the key.

with that show is that it appealed to so many different kinds of people for different reasons. So you had the, you know, the critics and the elites and all of the intellectuals. And then you also had, you know, people who wanted a family show. And then you had people that loved the mafia genre.

So everybody got something out of it. Yeah. And there were also plenty of people who kept watching CSI. We're like, this is too high round for me. So, 17,000. You know, but look, personally feel like I owe it something of a debt because

when you're on HBO a rising tide lifts all boats you know Game of Thrones The Sopranos shows like this that get more people to watch a pay cable network well you can't even sample my show

unless you're getting the network unless you're paying for the so any show like that that got more people in the HBO tent were the same year did good for me. Very similar. I started in 2002,

and I think the sopranos was 2001. I always forget the chronology of it, but I think, I think so. I shot the pilot in 99. Was it before 9-11? Yes, because they took out the Twin Towers out of the intro.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that would have been bad taste. I guess so at that time. They took to Twin Towers out. Now I wish I could see it. You mean CGIed it out? Yeah.

They did. Wow. I had a great intro that... I know. That song and riding across the bridge. I grew up there, you know, so... I forget that you're a Jersey boy. And I also...

I also didn't know that you weren't a New York Jew. I didn't know you were Catholic. Yeah, Catholic. Irish boy. Was your mom Jewish? Yes. Oh. I mean, culturally, I mean, there was never any...

I didn't even know she was until it was a teenager. Because usually you do what the mom does. You do what the mom does. And, I mean... Really? I mean... I mean, my nieces and nephews are all Jewish, and their moms are both Jewish. Well, I guess my brother's kids, though, are Jews for Jesus now.

What? They're Jews for Jesus. Seriously? They are. That just makes so little sense. It really does. Jews for Jesus. Do they know Jesus was a Jew?

Yes, but I mean, just the fact that, I mean, you know, some people are purists. I don't want to believe, you know. I'm not going to get into the full, uh, although maybe that's my most fun topic these days. Because I totally left the whole, I don't know what's happening in the world politically, but now all I'm doing is trying to trace the origins of where it came from. You mean spiritually? Yeah, yeah, that's one of my fun topics, too, but I'll probably, um, I'll probably drink this first. But you were raised Catholic.

Just kidding. I was raised Catholic, but nobody in my house cared about religion. at all at that time. Oh. But I was... We cared. ...obsessed with going to church myself, so I would go by myself. But there were motivations there, like, make my confirmation.

You wanted to go? I wanted to make my confirmation for the party. But why did you want to go to church? Well, the hot boys were there, too. I mean... Oh, I missed out on all of this. It was a thing. And in my neighborhood where I grew up, all the Italian girls and boys, everybody was at church,

and then there was my family who was trying to be progressive, I guess, and Queens in White Stone and the mafia neighborhood. And then my mom was the writer. Then everyone called her the lesbian because she would dress hot and sexy. I always think of the awesome Billy Joel song, you know, only the good die young because it's a, you know, the whole song is about getting a Catholic girl to put it, you know. I don't know if I ever paid attention.

To that song? To the words. You Catholic girls start much too late. Yes, that's true. Yep, yep, yeah. You know, saints and sinners have more fun. I mean, the whole thing is just about, why not do it with me? You're going to do it.

Catholic, get rid of the Catholic. It's awesome. Well, I think the whole institution thing is not. Yeah. I think that a lot of religion has sort of just been created to keep us down from recognizing our own power. I mean, some of it. But that was Jesus' message when he was to. talking to people if you decode all of the stuff he had a great he had a great message yeah but the kingdom

of the kingdom of heaven or god is in is within you and that's not it's not here in this church you're going to show up there and get into groups what are we doing now we're cutting off the uh is that i'm circumcising the joint go ahead let's go just because you want to you want to always old school quailudes you ready quailudes you ready quailudes Yeah, with the airplane on it, with the seven, what were they called, the seven-four-seven, seven-fourty-seven, yes. I only did it once. Those were my favorite. Yeah.

FYI. I wish they worked on me. They don't work? I did it once. I was living in New York, my first apartment right out of college, and some guys came over, two friends, and I remember we took the Kraludes in my little shit-box apartment and walked downstairs. and started walking down Broadway. I lived at 55th and 8th. And about two blocks in, I just, I was over the hood of a camp.

I was just out. Like, Kuala. You have to fight, you got to fight the high, man. You got to fight the sleep on that. Well, there was no fighting in. They carried me back to my apartment with two blocks away, and they put me on the bed, and I woke up 14 hours later with the door open. And nobody came in and robbed me.

That's how poor I was. I'm sure many crooks looked in and went. 58th and 7th. Nah, there's nothing in here. What? 58th and, no, 8th. An 8th. On 8th Avenue between 55th and 56th.

So we went out of my apartment. We turned immediately left on 55th, hit Broadway in half a block, started to walk down Broadway, and in two blocks I was passed out on the hood of a cab. So Coiludes were not my drug. Yeah, I would walk up a flight of stairs and then wake up with bruises everywhere from the quailudes. So you're not married? No. Divorced.

No. Not divorced? Never. No marriage, no divorce, none of them. Bastard children only. Oh, you're bastard children. Oh, that's cool. I like bastards.

Yeah. A lot of great people have been bastards. Alexander Hamilton. It's right. Oh, yes. Oh, I could list you bastards. My kids will sing that whole fucking musical to me. I mean, Bastard is one of those words like spinster.

It just doesn't really exist anymore because nobody cares, you know, spinster. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What's a spinster? I mean, so, you know, it's a cat lady, maybe. Am I allowed to say that? Oh, fuck, I'm going to get even more canceled now. It's a lady who, in the days when a woman either lived with her father, her parents, her family,

or the person she married. There was no in-between. There was no that girl getting an apartment in the city in between living with the family. We took care of a lot. My aunts were all spinsters. They had never even been with a man and some of them lived with us.

By choice? I don't even know. I mean, those old-telling neighborhood. Oh, my poor Aunt Lena. Why was she unpopular like that? I don't know. I think she was tending to all the other women in her family.

Italian to like that. And you also can't sleep with someone when you're an Italian young lady or you're a friggin putana. What's that? That's a horror? Yeah, putana, putana. Or in Spanish, putta.

It's a good name. Puta. For like a character. Putana. Putana. I'm going to use that. Oh, I came up with a new fake name for checking.

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It's the Yersinia pestis. But people are not going to know that. No. So I figure. I don't know that. Right. No, I'm saying it's a good, but Yersinia. It sounds like a person's name and pestis, you know, you could

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No, no, no, I can't. I haven't smoked pot since I was 30, 37. Why? I was a massive pot smoker in my whole life. So? huge rolling joints while I'm driving with my knees, driving with my knees, like that I was that person. Driving with your knees? Driving with my knees while I'm rolling a joint, you know, on a dirt

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Turns and conditions apply Learn more at amex.ca.com slash Y-Amex Is she still with us? No, she ended up going blind But we took care of up until the end Well, it's probably not healthy Never to get laid I mean

Right? I mean I think that was the case I don't know Did she die young? No, 97 97 Everyone in my house. Maybe fucking takes it out of you. It probably does.

I mean, I want to live till 97. I hope I get that. Yeah. Maybe if you're chased like that pure. Well, first of all, you probably have never had a, you definitely never had an STD. Oh, the old lady. Yeah.

Let alone Yersinia pestis. I mean. Because that's going around. But I don't know. I mean, every time you get anything, it compromises your health to a degree, even an STD. Have you ever had an STD? No, but I get the, I get the, I used to smoke so much fucking pot

that when I would do bong hits, we were the bong hit maniacs at NYU. I had fever sores going around in a circle around my face. From the bongs? From the bongs. Disgusting. Wow. You mean just because there was bacteria on the bongs?

I don't know, man. is it's just gross very vile but we did and I was like everyone's going to catch the fucking ring around the mouth now but it went away when you stopped doing bongheads yes

the ring but every now and then I'll get a like a fever blister on my mouth if I'm in the sun too long or if I'm too stressed out right I mean everything is living inside you everything bad you ever had and your immune system keeps it in check we're going to live forever man we are not

But I did have Andrew Huberman on my show Friday night, and he, I mean, nobody is more respected these days, certainly in the podcast world for the health and wellness thing. Yeah. And he said to me in overtime something about like, because I said, well, I'm going to be 70 my next birthday. And he's like, well, yeah. Oh, we were the same age. Oh, you look better than me? then. Oh, thanks. Well, I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I'd take care of myself, but he said, you know, you could live to 120. And of course, there are cases of people living to 120. It's rare, but obviously it can be done. And I thought, well, if you want to. Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. I want to. Well, first of all, if I'm, if I really could live to 120, that's 50 years for AI to have figured out how to live for, I mean, certainly before 50 years, AI is going to have this figured out. They might do it next year. You mean for someone's health?

For just to... Preserving. They don't want to preserve people. They want to fucking get rid of us, man. That's true, too. So there's that. But, I don't know, AI, I feel like, as long as you don't insult it, I feel like it's keeping tabs. Oh, yeah.

And we're going to get to... I can't do that, how. My kid is at home right now making a t-shirt art for us because she refused... I was putting an adri-a-ohan. image from the Sopranos through an AI generator, and she started crying. I'm like, why? Like, whatever, it's just this t-shirt that we're going to make. And she is so obsessed with the idea of AI ruining the world.

I mean, I haven't fully gotten as deep into it as I probably will sooner or later. She's not wrong. But she's home furious. She has 100 things to do, but she is drawing. my art for the t-shirt herself because she's an insane artist she's not wrong i know she's smart i know i mean we don't know which way it's going to go and look if it does keep uh people alive forever and when i say people i mean me look almost whatever else it does i'm gonna owe it um but there is every chance it's going to ruin the world in so many different ways including

it could be something as simple as because it's always going to be based on who programmed it. I mean, it's only programmed by humans who are flawed with their biases and so, like, I just don't think it can see the full picture sometimes and we've seen that already

and that's dangerous. And it's also just going to take everybody's job. I know. There's going to be nothing it can't do. So we're just going to be useless. There were the three pillars of, I can't remember the third. I think it was empathy and creativity. I mean, those are the things that

will keep us somewhat in the game, but that's a very select few, not empathy, but creativity, not everybody. But then I think about where we always meant not to be working as hard as

everybody's continuously working in this rat race. What if everybody is taken out of the rat race? And now we have to honor the earth. be with each other and all of the, because there's nothing left. If AI is doing all the tech shit, then what do we do?

Do we communicate again? That's a very good point. My friend Harvey Levin makes the same point when we talk about this. He says, like, where's it written that we all have to work? I mean, we just got used to that idea. But the question, of course, then becomes,

and do what? And how get money to eat? You know, like, I know. I get that idea that, oh, it is kind of. communism then there we are we'll give you this amount of money to just let the computers run the show but enough about the mayor of new york oh oh man domi mandani yeah did it happen i'm out i have been yeah you are i have been completely removed from it all well there's no deep in it and i said fuck this i can't oh you were deep in it i was deep in all of the politics of that

From when to when? I guess I would say, um, COVID. You know, I kind of feel like I had no choice but to pay attention. You and I both got a lot of shit for what we said about COVID. Yeah. And we're not exactly on, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not exactly sure where you are. I mean, I get called an anti-vaxxer. It's like I get called a conservative.

It's a bullshit term from people who are way over on the other side who see someone who's just sensible and have to make that. the enemy, I'm a skeptic of vaccines, like I'm a skeptic of everything medical. One thing I love that Huberman said, and I had no idea where he was going to be on this, but it's been behind a lot of the arguments I have with mainstream medicine people is I said, if we knew everything we could possibly know about medicine and how the body works, like that we're at 100, 100 percent knowledge. where are we actually like what percentage of what we could know if we knew everything and i said

i think most people because we know so much more than we used to or a hundred years ago i think we know we got like a 90 percent and i think it's like 20 and he said he i think he said 10 or something even low yes he said exactly what i've always said we're at the infancy of understanding how the body works. Yes, we know a lot more than we used to. But, you know, until we'd like cure cancer, we're not, we're really just. I mean, who's going to do that? Well, they're going to, that's a billion dollar industry. Oh, you think that's why? Amy, I think that there are, I mean, you're not alone in thinking. Maybe we don't cause it as much as we're, we're causing it on top of things. I mean, it's just a. We definitely cause it. I mean, America causes cancer. That's it.

Everything we do, everything we breathe, everything we eat. stress, you know, we're just, look, I love this country and I love the way we are and I don't give a fuck, who knows it. And yes, we are arrogant and we are this and that. But we'll, you know, I would take that over what other countries are. We're also rich. No one here is taking a chicken on a bus. You know, I mean, give me a fucking break. I mean, no one, I'm not, I'm definitely sold on this country. But it does cause, it does give you cancer. Okay. I mean, everywhere. And your constitution, everybody's just doing. Everything's fucking different.

Polar bears are contaminated. That's how much the pollution is everywhere. Yeah. Okay. But as far as the conspiracy theory that they could cure it, but there's too much money in it, I certainly have heard that. I'm willing to listen. There's no real evidence.

And there's so much money in also curing it. And I just don't think you can keep a secret like that. And I do think people are evil, but I just think it's too big a one to pull off. So I'm not on that page. they have methods of dealing with cancer better than they used to, but they haven't cured it. They definitely haven't cured it. But like if you get certain types versus like 30 years ago when my father got it, way better. Lung cancer. My dad too. And I know people now who have gotten lung cancer and they're doing fine. That may not last forever, but it's not like

what it was when my father got it. That's still not curing it. I do think if they had it, they'd tell us. I just don't think you can keep it. But they also just don't want us to play around with other things that complement. That's true, too. Say their medicines like chemo and email. No, no. And that's one reason why, you know, Bobby Kennedy sat there and, I mean, I like Bobby.

I don't agree with them on everything. And I think he, you know, goes too far in a lot of things. But that basic idea that he has and from the time he was, is an environmental lawyer, which is that we talk about all these things that are hurting us and killing us, and some of those things are true. But the biggest one is this, the environment. And I think that's true. I mean, we live in L.A.

where we're breathing the shit-fucking plastic-filled air from the fire in January. Oh, I know. Don't get me started on that topic. We'll get canceled all over again. You may not even be able to go back to HBO. I'm just kidding, if I'm talking about, you guys will edit the whole show? Why? Why?

What do you think you've believed that's so controversial? Well, I just, this whole thing with the pollution and the, look, I feel like a crazy person that I even talk about this stuff because I am not a scientist. I'm not a politician. I don't really have the kind of knowledge to be able to lay pipe down on a lot of issues. But there are just things that eat away at me, and every time that happens, I've been right about it. And one of the things that have been driving me crazy, and this is what our whole ultra-free,

my T-shirt company, is about what they've been spraying lately in the sky. Not lately. It's been going on for many, many years. Spraying. You can talk about chem trails? Well, we try not to call them chemtrail, but we could call them cunt trails.

We'll call them cunt trails. But it's not, it's, there's no way to disqual. dispute what's happening anymore. They're even... They're coming out of the ass of a plane, you're saying. You know, I don't know exactly how... There are a lot of planes that are outfitted with all this stuff. And then there are planes that I've heard even Kennedy say, you know, they're coming from...

There's something mixed into the... I don't know about that. I don't really think that that's the way it's happening, but it's happening. And they're trying to normalize it now. So now anybody that's been calling a conspiracy... because a lot of people have, this whole thing with AI and technology and all of this, there's no way to stop the inflow of information coming in. They can try to censor.

I got to know where the spraying is coming from. Okay, I'll back up. And to what purpose? What are they spraying us with? Jing? It's with Jing. It's heavy metals. There's a ton of heavy metals.

But they're purposely giving us that? Well, it's not that they're giving it to us, even though that's probably a, you know, oh well agenda like oh well this will kill two birds with one stone but it's more about just dimming the sun because of the climate change catastrophe and all of this stuff and there are climate deniers climate change deniers and other everybody it's politicized it shouldn't be politicized the spraying is to dim the sun the spraying is to dim the sun because otherwise the sun would be too bright now well i guess this has been going on since the dawn of time Not the dawn of time, no.

But what happened, like, in 500 A.D., maybe it was, all these volcanoes erupted at the same time. That's happened. And you get, it cools the earth. Yes. And then it blocks the sun, it cools the earth. So these scientists know that this is a way in which to mitigate the sun heating up the earth too much. And then there was the whole ozone. But it's the opposite of what happens when the volcanoes go off.

They block the sun. want to because of everything warming too much. No, I mean, the volcanoes don't want anything. They just want to go off. They're like your aunt who hasn't been late in 90 years. They are just waiting

to let it explode, and they do sometimes. I don't know if this happened in 500 AD. It happened many, many thousand years ago. I'm not sure. That's a good question. I don't have to re-look at that. Well, they imitate it. It has definitely happen. We're like volcanoes go

off. It, I mean, it has happened in like fairly recent, when I say fairly recent, like a few thousand years. It did happen. Oh, I think it was the 14th century, maybe. Like the early, the 14th century, the 13th century. Sixth century. Maybe, maybe that, maybe. There were like three big ones and it caused a big flash freeze, I think, of a lot of, there were no crops. It was, it was, you know, catastrophic. The 1300s, which maybe is one. that number is like an unlucky number. We're like the worst we've ever had because you've had the bubonic plague,

Yersinia pestis, right here. But even before that, Europe was like had these horrible rains that killed all the crops for like 10 years. And I think maybe this was another one of those volcano things. But when the volcanoes go off, they block the sun. You wouldn't need something to block more sun. You want to open it up.

So I don't know what the spraying is about. If the earth is, if the ozone is damaged from pollution and all of this stuff. We actually healed that. With the Montreal Protocol. But then the spraying made it worse. All of the continuous dropping of heavy metals into the air made it worse. But the dropping of heavy metals, is that a side effect of something else that we're doing? Like it's just in the, in the effluvium of the airport?

plane, which, you know, okay, we still want to fly, so we're going to put up with that. Or is it, are you saying it's deliberate? I think that whatever they're putting in there, which has been tested repeatedly. I mean, the people that fly the planes would be pilots in the Navy, I mean, in the Air Force. Oh, this is from military planes? This is probably a military operation, yeah. Were you getting this? This is nuts.

I know. It's just nuts. Why do you go there? Because I definitely feel the effects of it on days that they spray, and you can see it in the sky. I mean, the truth is written in the motherfucking sky. So you feel what? You feel worse, headaches or something?

If they're dropping that shit from the plane. Maybe I'm not looking. Oh, you don't see it. Okay, so. When can I, when should I go out and look and where? Where am I looking? I'll look. Okay.

I'll give me a benefit of the doubt. I'll tell you what, right before those palisades fires, I knew that everything was going to go up in fucking flames. Well, that has nothing to do with... They were spraying incessantly. It was unbelievable. They criss-cross non-stop. It's a pattern.

It's not a regular... This is before the fires started? Right before the fires. It's a desiccant. So even if everything's green outside, everything is now going to be coated in this layer of super combustible. But the winds were a... hundred miles an hour and they did like eight other fucking stupid things wrong um and they had some

incompetent people running things trust me i got my share of conservative backlash talking about the fires because it wasn't all big it didn't didn't happen because of wokeness but wokeness didn't help yeah so i'm not saying that's what caused it it was a huge amount of wind we get this out here that that's just the facts but of course they should have done many things to mitigate that they know those win wins are coming they should have uh i mean your boy was not completely wrong when he said do more raking rake maybe you should rake he's not my boy we we okay i don't agree with everything there either and that and i i've i've always been super far to the left so this was just about far to the left me

Yeah. Oh, my God. So how come you have this reputation as someone who, they don't want to talk to you because you're so on the right because of the vaccine? I'm not on any of it. I don't fucking buy into an ounce of it. Whatever you want to call it, spring. That is a right-wing conspiracy theory. But it wasn't. Geoengineering was always something that people on the left, the hippies, the people that cared about health and all this shit.

Yeah, that's true, too. They were the ones that cared about the environment. No, that's an interesting point because there's a re-vaccing was a, of the left. And still is. That's one of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy's coalition because it does cross over. I mean, this is Kennedy

the ultimate name in Democrats, who's now part of a Republican administration and most of his voters when he was running were Republicans because they, but yes, there are these Maha moms,

you know, these are the ladies in the Lulu lemons who do not want They shouldn't wear the lulu lemons. It's all toxic fucking material. Really? That's what I heard. I don't wear that shit, so I don't know. Lulu lemons, did they get sprayed?

No, supposedly all the stuff they make their stuff, I don't fucking know. If I can't trust Lulu Lemon, not to put poison. I mean, don't wear your Lulu Lemon yoga pants, Bill. Poison in my cooch, then what has this country coming to? Things are so terrible. It really is. Wait. I didn't get charged for my donut.

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It's been a big switcher room. Everybody's... It's inverted politics. But it's like mind control. There's lots of inverted politics. I don't know about that, but your point about inverted politics, this goes on all the time. I mean, I've talked about this a lot. When I started doing this back in the days we were just talking about, the people who were the no laugh, nothing's funny, stick up their ass people with the conservatives.

And now it's the woke. I know. They're the ones who are no fun, buzz kills, scolds, hypocrites about all this kind of shit. Is the woke thing still even happening? Yes, it is, because I haven't been paying attention. Here's how you know it's happening because they made Cracker Barrel. Oh, I heard about this. And Cracker Barrel today.

What was the new logo they tried to have? Well, just the words, they got rid of the barrel and the cracker. Okay. So it's Barrel? No, no, there was a picture of a guy and a cracker standing by the, I mean, a picture of a barrel and a cracker standing by the barrel. Now they just went to the words Cracker Barrel. They said, no, we're going back. We're going back and we're showing the Cracker.

What's the fucking Cracker? Like an actual Cracker? No, a guy who's a cracker. Yeah, a fucking... A Redneck? Yeah, yeah. A cracker-ass Cracker. It's called Cracker Barrel.

Okay, I didn't know that it meant that the guy, that the person was a, was a cracker. Like, I didn't know that it was that. Yeah. That's what Cracker Barrel is. It's a place where crackers go. And I've never been there, but I assume they sit on a barrel and have dinner. I assume that they've been. I've been to many of them. Oh, really? Oh, my God. We're a Cracker Barrett. I've never even seen one. Because I would drive cross country so much. You must because I was on the road for 40 years. And I don't remember. I was in every, a New York In select. No, but I would have seen a drive- driving from the airport to the hotel, to the gig. You've got to look for your cracker barrel. I must have seen them.

I just don't remember. I remember other, like, rednecky things that you only see. Waffle House. Trip, Circle K. Things that you, like, never see. What a burger? What? Waffle House is a big one.

Waffle House. I mean, Denny's is everywhere, but I would say it's more in Marietta, Georgia. You know, certainly every place has a, Cheesecake Factory. That's what? That's not crackery. No, no, I'm just saying there are some things you see. Crackery.

Now that I know what the fucking cracker barrels are all. All of gardens. That's for Italians. That's for Redneck. Redneck's up one Italian. How would you rate, is that? I've never been. Because it's not authentic enough for you.

I don't know. I probably would not. No, I won't like it. Listen, I just went to Italy and I was not thrilled. with the food. Are they spraying over there? Or is it just America? That's the thing. I was trying to ask this guy who was like the expert on it. And anybody that wants

to... The expert. Well, there's a movie called The Dimming and you'll probably be interested to understand what some of it's about. A documentary? Documentary called The Dimming and it's on geoengineering watch.org. And the guy that's been doing all the research is an environmentalist

and he came upon it because he was trying to understand why his solar panels weren't working and they weren't working because the sunlight at certain times is being completely blocked but then beyond that it's killing all just killing a lot of stuff so how there's no bees here we have no bees in california right now i got two nests right back you do yes oh you better don't kill them oh i don't i know i'm totally on the bee page oh you are okay because that's a big part of it they can't handle what is coming down from above oh i could not be more on the bee page um but i'm not sure

it's from the spraying, but it is definitely from all the kind of environmental damage we do. I mean, they're sensitive creatures, and I very often see one walking, and when I do, I almost want to cry, because bees are not supposed to... If the bee is walking... I like, that's really cute, Bill. Why? I don't know what I like that you're talking about walking. Oh, it's so sad. No, really, a bee should never be walking. I just want to... I don't know whether to put him out of his misery and just quash him or just...

You should smoke some weed, sit down and talk to him. I was going to do that. I was going to talk... I was going to be like, bro, I feel your pain. I do. I mean, it's just so wrong what we're doing and I feel terrible about it. I mean, I didn't personally do it,

but, you know, I'm sure I'm not helping as much as I could. And I, you know, I used to take a private plane everywhere. I feel terrible. But, you know, life goes on. But, you know, this is probably apocryphal, but they said it was... out there, I don't know if it really happened, that Einstein said, when the bees die, humans have four more years left because the bees pollinate the food.

Yes. You know, we need, but look, they're not all. They're not all gone. I mean, I was sitting today because, I mean, I don't know how much sun we're blocking, but trust me, at one o'clock today, we weren't blocking much of it. No, today didn't spread. Oh, good. I got a non-spray day.

I was out there and I'm sitting like and like just like just where that pole is like very close there's a bush and I could just sit there watch all day and it's just filled with bees going from flower you know one to and I'm like I watched it for like a half hour and I'm like guys you must have drained everything you could from this bush I mean you're all you've been out of so long and you keep going it looks like you're going in the same one and there's a thousand of you and then Hummingbird showed up and they wanted a piece of the action. You're like snow fucking white, Phil. Yeah, buddy. That is exactly who I am. What you're fucking smoking and are we about

to fucking start eating mushrooms right now? This right here. I'm smoking this right here. This I grow right here. I'm smoking weed. There are bees probably circling this. this right now outside. Nothing by my house.

Nothing. What do you mean? Nothing? Nothing. No bees. And they used to come sit with, I used to smoke a lot of cigarettes. Well, do you, do you don't have, well, you need plants that attract them.

They'll come. Yeah, that's true. You know, they're not. Everything's dying at gray gardens these days. They're not going to come for you. I mean, they used to come. They wouldn't, they would sit on me. The bees?

I'm fucking snow white, too. I'm the Italian snow white. What? I'm Snow Blanco. I could see selling that as a Netflix series or something. It'd actually be good. I'd actually have not a bad idea, an Italian in a kind of a fairy tale role. Have you done that?

I don't think so. Pinocchio. Yes, but Snow Blanco is kind of cool. Yeah, she'll be doing Coke and fucking put. cock and her gun every five seconds. That's our snow blanco. Why are you feeding into those stereotypes

about Italians being violent? Listen, part of the reason why I don't care about not acting anymore is once I started getting cast as sort of normal people, I couldn't have been more fucking bored. I don't want to be stereotyped when I was young, but now I'm like, if you're

not going to stereotype me, then maybe... I think you do care. It's more fun. I think you do care, and you should care, and you are not wrong to be bitter about what happened to you. It is just wrong to do this, what do they call it in the church, excommunicating of people who, yes, I don't agree with you about the spraying. That doesn't mean I don't like you. You will, though. You will when you watch the dimming.

It doesn't mean I don't like you. I can't work with you. It's just this exclusionary attitude is just the most obnoxious thing about the left. And I've said this. With their inclusivity. With all their, there's going to be major psychological papers written about this time. You know that. Oh, there already are being written.

It's going to be wild. Looking back on it. Especially the COVID stuff. Yeah. I mean, you know, not that they didn't already hate me, the stupid. the stupid woke by then, but that didn't help. And, of course, now when we look back on it, there's just a giant book that came out

that is saying everything I was saying at the time, that first of all, we should never have gotten rid of natural immunity, as we always thought that was the best, but they went right past that to, no, everybody has to get vaccinated as much as we can get in you. Now, that does look corrupt to me. but also just the collateral damage was so much worse than the thing itself

and it wasn't there were I mean masking two-year-olds who never were going to get sick from this certainly not die from this they did a lot of stupid shit that I was calling out at the time and it made me a very bad person you're a hero throughout this I have to say for you know especially working on a station that you know we all know all the big

canopies over everything corporate-wise and stuff and you talking about it the way you were and every time it was coming out of your mouth we were all like oh oh shit oh my god go go go go because

we're all Democrats in our minds even though I'm not a political I never voted until I voted for Joe Biden I never voted in my life I never believed in the system I mean me and my ex had a whole music video and album, it was his album,

but I was involved with him making the music video about mass vaccination back in 2010. And Stephen King narrates the album. And if he would have... Stephen King. Stephen King narrated the album. He was a fan of my ex. And the whole album was about, you know,

a New World Order. In the last night before martial law takes over, and he's the last DJing from a pirated radio. station. And it's beautiful and it's amazing the way he narrates the whole thing. Shooter wrote most of it, Shooter's my ex. Stephen King is during the Bush administration and we were so anti everything that was going on. And we believed in all the conspiracies that a lot of them turned out to fucking be true now. But fast forward from 2010 to COVID. And it was everything he wrote in this song, Shooter.

And the music video is of my daughter waking up in her crib, and there's a TV screen over her, and there's a clown saying, wake up, wake up. And now the TV has taken over parenting. And she's looking all over the house for her parents. And the TV's saying, we're gone.

They're gone. Everybody's gone. And there's all these images of the parents getting escorted out of the house kind of stuff. And now she keeps trying to leave the house to go outdoors. is whenever she goes to leave, there's different TV in every room, and the TV's like, no, stay here, and then look what I can do, and it blows up a car, and there's war,

and she's driving her little airplane into her world trade, and, like, all of this crazy shit, and she gets in the bathtub for bath time, the TV goes, it's bath time, and she goes by herself to the bath, and this full bathtub, and the TV's falling into the tub with her, and it's just all this propaganda and information going at her, and she's, like losing it in the tub and that was 2010 and the song is called the summer of rage and he's saying in it um they're building mass graves you and i they'll vaccinate and it's fucking crazy but you would get some vaccination my kids are totally vaccinated they have they're over vaccinated this is what people don't know about me they think i'm some crazy political this is why

you know fuck about politics i lived in a bubble like But I hope you find a second win to fight this. It just bugs me that people can do this. They can just look at somebody and go, okay, well, we agree on ABC, D, E, F, but then we got to H. And she didn't agree with us. Or she believes this. And so you're gone. That's just, it's just so wrong.

It's so un-American. It's just, it's so- This is the way I saw it. I didn't think I had that much to lose. I was losing my home because I couldn't work, and I took a forbearance. I never worked that much. I'm a single mom. I made sure that I only took jobs that were in California.

I would not leave. So I wasn't, you know, women my age are not, they're not just fucking throwing jobs at me, you know. I also didn't want to work that much. Okay. If you don't want to work this one. No, no, now, I actually kind of do because I'm sick of the political shit. Okay. I'm over it. I'd rather just go be fake and do something fake for a minute.

On the work thing, I must tell you, as a show business manager, want to be, because I would be a very good manager. I always give people good advice here all the time. When the rocket goes up as far as yours did, in other words, when you're like on a show like The Sopranos, not just a hit show, but an iconic show. Yeah, it's a long time ago. An Uber show. Yeah.

But not so long ago that the audience doesn't remember. HBO especially, especially HBO, has been great about they're very, usually very loyal to the people who have been on shows. You see them come up all the time on other shows. I said other bad things about them. Okay, well, that may be a special case. But what I'm saying is like, like, like they, parts of. come along for now women in your age range and if it's between you who an audience remembers fondly from this other iconic thing and like 12 other people who could do the job yes you see it all the

time you know yeah my fans do love so yes so it's not like you not like if there wasn't this political stone in their shoe you wouldn't if you wanted to like you know look winona rider how she got a big hit show from... But she's not talking about all the crazy. No, I know what I'm just saying. I can't stop. It's not like they don't want to hire people just because, you know, they were on this thing

that was, that only adds to it that you were on something big 20 years ago. So, you know, but I hope you do find the second win to do that because, you know, I see Gina Carrano, you know who that is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, they, again, do we share politics? Not exactly. I don't have to.

And they did the same thing to her. Yeah. You know, she said something that was slightly not the one true opinion, and she had to then march off the plank. And she's like, fuck you. Who would the fuck? And I forget how she fought back, but she just won some kind of big victory. Oh, good.

Yeah. Well, I wasn't working at the time. So it wasn't like, I mean, I was guest starring on a show that I couldn't go back to because I couldn't go back to Canada without a vaccine. Yeah, well, that's what it was. I mean, I got offered a bunch of jobs during that time, little jobs that would have kept me afloat. But when I had to say no to everything...

So when you weren't making money, what did you do? I went into foreclosure. I was losing my fucking house. I mean, I was... For me, it was more like... I was petrified. I was petrified knowing what I knew sort of innately about the whole system. and what was going on, what I suspected was happening out there.

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so you have a boyfriend now how long is that been going on six years oh that's great and it's good works out well That's good. And you don't want to get married again? I never, I've never been married.

I think that that's something I would like to try because I never did it. I never believed in it, like you. Me, yeah. I know that about you. I always thought, why the fuck do you need a piece of paper? And why does it have to be government? Right, exactly. Fuck your government and fuck your institutions and fuck, I mean, listen, I am a spiritual person

and I want people to get mad at me who think that I'm one thing and suddenly they hear I'm not. But I don't believe in religious institutions either. I really don't. I am a crazy Jesus freak, and that's, I love, I love JC because I love men with long hair and beards and I'm a hippie like that. And that's my image that I have, which is probably totally fucking wrong and fake. But the marriage thing, I cared about it after COVID. When I went through what I went through in that time period where I felt so isolated and so alone, and I guess this is how people deduce that I might be a conservative. I sort of felt like everything was going so far

left that we were getting so far away from the center of things. That is true. That happened. I wanted to get back to tradition. Any tradition. I don't want to go all the way that far back. I mean, unless a tradition makes sense. But I'm all for chucking traditions when they don't make sense. Some of them do. But yes, your thing about we went too far left, I mean, that's and what I've been preaching. And, of course, that is never good enough for the super woke. They have to then pretend that you are some sort of enemy as opposed to just, I just, you know, as I said to the woke people all the time, we voted for the same person.

You're just why she lost. Yeah. I know. And I never would have, I never would have moved over to the right. To me, it just felt like common sense. It had nothing to do with politics. I was like, well, this makes fucking more sense to me. This seems sounds more like the shit that I was raised on

around my dinner table because we were a household Democrats. I can't go there with the biggest... Well, not every topic. Trump is doing things that are just too harmful to this country. And, I mean, you have to really try to be stupider than the woke. But some of those things that they're doing, yeah, I mean, I'm not down with militarizing our cities. all these troops on the ground.

I mean, either the police can handle the job or get better police or redo how we do police. I do think we need to re-more. You know, we did we did take away their morale because we, again, stupid woke shit had to pretend that every policeman in America was some sort of racist assassin. And that's just not fair to the cops

who do have a hard job. And there are some racist. There's some racist everywhere. And there's some shitty people doing everything everywhere. But you do need the police. What I don't need is fucking Marines doing the job of the police. I mean, first of all, I don't want them to pick up the bad habits at the police. I don't want the Marines to start eating donuts and getting, like, blow jobs from street walkers.

I mean, it's just not what the Marines are there for. The New York police. Oh, you got to love the New York police. I love them. I love them. I was never, I never got on board with that. But I could easily be swayed into, oh, my God, are people getting hurt? Like, any might, like, I, you know, again, I was a fucking far left liberal, man, like, progressive in my mind, too.

If I even understand politics correctly, I don't know. But I, I, but to me now, those are just fucking pronouns at this point. Left, right, red, blue, fuck all of it. it's just me and you. And that's it. And I feel like that's what it needs to be. I have no faith in any of these institutions anymore. I don't care about Trump. I don't care about Kennedy. I don't care. Even though I went balls to the wall for Kennedy, and I did because of all the other things that I thought were important. And I do love the truth. I think the truth is great, but now once you get into those positions of power, you can't tell the truth anymore. So everybody's

compromise and everybody's going to be blackmailed until the end of times all these feminist ideas for me like i have a problem with a lot of that shit like i don't i don't need to fucking wear some pussy hat and run around like a maniac to prove that i am some fucking strong being like i bet you wore it on only fans it would work good i mean maybe i can just naked with a pussy hat my head inside my own pussy that would be a whole other fucking thing but you haven't shown your pussy have you No, I mean, yes. Really? No, no.

Let's get back to geopolitics. Not geopolitics, not geo-engineering, Jesus Christ. But see, I don't know. For the first time I took my clothes off, and I haven't put the pictures out yet. I've never done it. I've never done nudity in my whole life. Oh. I never did it.

Sons of Anarchy asked me to do it for the final episode to have sex with Charlie Hunnam. You never did it with Christopher? I never said it would fit. I was always in my panties. A panties and a bra? A panties and a bra. And I lived in panties and a bra. But HBO, there was no full nudity.

And on FX, there wasn't nudity. But that shows. HBO, that nudity? Yeah, I never did nudity. I mean, I don't get naked in front of people normally. I'm uncomfortable. I put a fucking bathing suit on. So here I am now on OnlyFans doing something.

But, you know. And why's your boyfriend always rubbing his flashlight against? he's young he's young oh look at you that's my girl come on give me a pound on that one um but i did i did take off my clothes for the i was like i and it was kind of a political you know story i don't want to get cute about it or precious but in a lot of ways me doing only fans was that it was like fuck you like i'm not going to play by your fucking rules i'm going to go make my own fucking money and i'm gonna take a selfie like all these other fucking girls show their everything on instagram i don't have a selfie page like i never did that i was never one of these girls that was like

oh my god i feel i feel i look at my tits like never did that before but the kids were like do it take it but sell it and i was like okay i'll try i mean it was supposed to be podcast but we didn't do the podcast once the picture went up there i was like i'm old and tired like this works but i'm gonna Let it ride for a little bit. I don't fucking care. I mean, first of all, you look really good. Second of all, more than ever, I've noticed in society, maybe it's just L.A., that men are into women. Like, there's a lot of men.

Into old women. Who are into cougar age women who kept themselves up. And, you know, somebody once said to me, Bill, you have no idea what it's like to have sex with a woman in her 40s. And I said to him, you're correct. But I get what you're saying, because it's a 10,000 hours thing. You know the 10,000 hours thing? No. Malcolm Gladwell famously said,

anything worth really mastering takes 10,000 hours, like playing the piano. See, if you want to learn to play the piano, you've got to put in 10,000 hours. Okay. And same with fucking, like, yes, it is kind of a skill that gets better with age. You know, I mean, yes, the 18-year-olds look fantastic. I'm sure I've heard but like of course they're going to be terrible

in bed. They haven't put in their 10,000 hours and if they have that's a real hope. They've got 10,000 hours by 18th. That's not a good mom. That's not a good thing at all. But yeah, I I did it. I didn't. You should be fat.

I mean, no, no. I'm shaming that. I did it at a desperation. There's no question. So I don't have this fucking like I feel empowered. If my If my kid ever did that shit? The people who should be embarrassed, the people who made you put you in a state of desperation, they should be embarrassed. No one made me fucking do anything.

I made my choices. I could have faked it. I could have lied. I could have used a vaccination card like a lot of other people. But I did get dropped by my agent. I am going to make it. I got dropped by people. Really?

Drop by your agent. Without even a phone call. She was a friend and she told my manager that she was dropping me. Fuck them. This town is such a bunch of. of fucking assholes and babies and hypocrites they're just such obnoxious pricks but i love but i love everybody i don't even care all i know and so and also some of the greatest people i mean you know it's just humanity what can you do but i mean and i'm not bitter like i'm really

fucking not bitter for you than you are no i'm not because i was i already had you know i didn't feel like i had much i was losing my home well i i think you're Career-wise, I didn't feel like I had much to lose. I had money to lose, but not something I wanted so bad. So I felt like I had to speak out. But careers don't go in a straight line, especially acting careers. I mean, somebody would be very smart to grab you right now because it's like, okay, you loved her, you haven't forgotten her, and then she got a bad break because that's what America does all the time. They like cast somebody out and then they go a little while later.

Oh, yeah, maybe we were a little hasty about that. Sorry. And then, perfect timing. So I think the timing is right for somebody to put you in something good. I really do. No, I really, I think that would be a great. It would be a very smart casting move. It just would.

They're not making TV shows. That's another thing. Really? They're not making TV shows? Not all the streaming. There's not a lot of stuff going on. All my friends are out of work. They aren't all doing a million.

They overshot themselves during COVID. Everything is fucked up. Yeah. Not that they needed another log on the fire of why they hate me, but, you know, I wasn't exactly the biggest supporter of the strike. No. And, of course. I'm not a huge supporter, but I understand it because I'm straight.

Yeah, of course. And I'm not against their wishes, but it did come out a few months ago. 40% of the jobs never came back. So it wasn't exactly like I was completely wrong about it. No, but like this movie that I just, that I did two years ago, that was one of the number one films on Netflix right now, Netflix. And it's, I think it's, yeah, it's nominated for an Emmy this year. It got 2.8 billion streams.

And because it was before the strike, we don't get a fucking dollar from that. I don't get residuals from The Sopranos either because it was cable and, we hadn't really negotiated that yet so it's fucked up yeah so of course i was in fucking foreclosure at that point after you know i work i work from i make sure i work for a certain amount of months and then i don't work for a while so i could take care of my kids so but yeah so yes i did i did the only fans and the kids are how old 17 and 14 wow that's some very tender ages oh yeah especially growing up in this shit. I mean, with all this technology

and it is... Are they want to be in this business? Well, now they both want to be musicians, which is... Oh, good? Nervracking. Why? It's another...

It's another entertainment section... It's another place where everybody was canceled. And if you didn't follow the protocol... Music? Oh, my God. Who got canceled in music? Well, nobody... I mean, every...

Everybody was fucking woke as hell, except for the four people that spoke out, and they were completely demonized. I mean, and if you're, I mean, the only place you can survive is country music, maybe. Is that about it like Kanye? I mean, I can talk about even my own boyfriend. Why, what do you say? He ended quitting his band, and he quit his band over other reasons because they were not being cool to him. So you're with another musician? I'm always with a musician.

That's your type. You're a group. gropy whore. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Now my kids are musicians, so now I can just take care of their music career. But no. Music goes right to the pussy. I love music. Oh, I thought you were going to say right to the bone, but I guess you were I don't know. I'm just saying you don't have to like intellectualize, you know.

No, it's the best. Right. It's the best. I mean, if I could have, I think that was my number one favorite thing in the world. I think when I was a kid, I loved musical theater. And then I just fell in love with rock and roll when I was a kid, like that. Every musical genre, though. I love all kinds of music. But my boyfriend of the music thing, once we started ultra-free, people started calling him a white nationalist. And like, both of us, people think that we're like these, like, racists.

and we're like, what? Like, I don't even understand how we got there. Like, I'm a hippie who don't want to take medicine because I don't even take Tylenol. Right. So now I'm a fucking racist. You have to be all in or you're all bad. Yeah.

This is one of the key things I think that we have to solve. And, you know, I'm hoping because the Democrats got their ass kicked last time. And, you know, I know you want Gavin Newsom to be the press. I like Kevin Newsom. I know you like him. I do. He's very presidential. I do.

I mean, he's cute. He's cute. He's handsome. I mean, that's not what's doing it for me, but it's, but I'm glad that he likes that going for him. When he does like a pop and look, when he talks about the fires, that was cute too. There's two things that go right to the pussy, music and politics. Wait, no.

But, I mean, come on. It's not a detriment. Listen, I was in D.C. for some event that, uh, that we were at for, you know, the Republic, the whole thing during that era. And I couldn't believe the feeling in this hotel that I was in of, I could feel the sexual, like, degeneracy that previously lived in those hotel rooms.

Like, I could feel it. I don't know what it was. I've never said that. I've been living California my whole life. Half my life. Half my life. Where are we now? Where am I feeling this?

In D.C. No, but where? Where were you? What hotel was I in? You were in a ballroom? I was in a hotel. Where in the hotel? The rooms, the lobby, everything, everything about D.C.

The whole place. The whole fucking place felt like dirty sex to me, man. Maybe they sprayed it. But wait, just a feeling? You didn't literally smell it. No. It was a beautiful hotel that we were staying at, you know, probably. What hotel?

I'm asking for a friend. You need to know. I can't remember the name of the hotel, man. Your Sinia Pestis, I'm registered under the name, Mr. Pestis. Yes. Could you have some champagne? Sounds up to 614. Thank you very much.

Maybe it was called Langham or something. I don't remember what it was called. But what is the point being that D.C. is... Well, we're talking about politics and rock and roll going... But I never think of... I think of politics as... state and like whenever you know man this was demonic feeling demonic yes there was this really dark sexual energy there now swear now qanon believes the democrats are pedophiles i don't know

anything about qanon okay but do you believe the democrats are pedophiles i mean i think that there's pedophilia in the world whether or not but if i don't think that should be politicized again oh good You know, I think most of these issues should never be politicized. Right. But that was a funny thing when that was happening, when all of that sound of freedom movie came out about that guy that was talking about all the child trafficking and how publications like Rolling Stone and like all of these like pillars of being a liberal, they all came out and said the most awful things about this film.

And it's like, who cares about the film? Let's talk about what it's about. Right. Like, why do you give a fuck about this movie? Like, that it's political and that you don't like it because the right wing people, I mean, you don't think there's pedophiles on the right, too? Like, what the fuck are you crazy? That's part of our problem, is that everybody makes their decisions based on the politics

of the art and not the art itself. That was recent, though, right? I mean, I would say that that was not a thing before. Correct. Politics were always corrupt. Correct. Well, people used to judge the art for the art itself, and the politics was sort of secondary, and now it's the reverse. That certainly has happened in my business.

When I started way back with Politically Incorrect, everybody said, you know, you can't do a show where you talk, give your opinions as a talk show host. You had to alienate half the crowd. I was like, you know what, let's, I believe the crowd can take it, and they could. But in those days, you're like Letterman, Leno, you know, Carson, they never told you their politics. Now we moved into an era, you know, Stephen Colbert and John Stewart and John Oliver. I mean, I'm not knocking now. I'm just saying that Kimmel, the most important thing was to signal to the audience what your politics are.

You had to, and it was all scripted or brainwashing. So it's scripted, but it was like very predictive. just whatever MSNBC was saying, I agree with 100%. That was never my game. What? Fucking Microsoft Media. Well, whatever.

And the audience, you know, and of course, half the country was like, well, this is just insulting to me. Whereas Leno, you know, never did that. Leno just played it right down the middle. He just like, I will make fun of everybody. And that's in a different sort of way, what I'm doing also. I mean, I just don't stop criticizing just because you're on the left part. If you do something stupid, I'm going to call it out no matter where you are.

And, you know, if people don't pay attention, they don't get it, that, yes, I still think the Republicans are more dangerous because, I mean, they don't really believe in democracy anymore. And they're doing a lot of harmful things. But, you know, I'm also not going to deny that Trump won because a lot of things did get way out of whack. that he said, I'm going to correct, you know, the borders shouldn't be open. DEI is out of control. You know, universities are out of control. He wasn't, he's not wrong about all those things. I just don't agree with his method of addressing them.

Yeah, some of those things are going to go too far. But we can talk about it, you know. We should always be able to fucking talk about it. So that's just what I wish people would take away from this podcast is don't take people because you don't. Some people glaze over. They just too many people glaze over. And it's like, you know, maybe you're crazy a little too. Anyway, it was great to meet you. Great to meet you. I'll let you go back to your young boyfriend. Your kids who probably are reaching that age where they're going to be doing crazy things. I'm sure you'll handle it. I'm so glad we got to know each other.

That's why I love doing this podcast. And I don't know. Goodbye. Goodbye. All right. Oh, my God. I'm sweating my fucking ass off. Really?

I'm sorry. So hot. Really? I feel like it's delightful. You do? Yeah. Fucking relaxed. You're stoned.

You're in your playroom. Yeah. I got my bowling shirt on. Thank you.