Club Random with Bill Maher - Ice Cube | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: July 2, 2023

Bill Maher and Ice Cube on the pitfalls of fame, the fans you don’t want mad at you, the TV show Ice Cube has never seen, the brilliance of Cube’s lyrics, the prison industry’s connection to music, how to raise good kids, in defense of nepo babies, why Cube’s Big Three basketball league is awesome, and whether or not the state of policing in America has improved.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So you are the first guest to be a half hour early. Is that right? Well, you want Asian people's time? You know, um. Half hour early, I love it. And of course, I was ready, because I'm always ready. Well, my cop said, if you can't be on time, be early. Right. And I think he got it from the wise man.

You ever hear of a Lombardi time? No. Never heard that term? Vens Lombardi? No. You don't follow football? I mean, I never heard it at time. I know Vens Lombardi. Oh, yeah, it's the trophy that they give away. But Lombardi time, when he was a coach,

meant 15 minutes early. Oh yeah, that's that shit. I think I heard a mic shenanigans find somebody for being on time. You're supposed to be five minutes early. Yeah. On time is late. Right. Well, it's a great quality to have. I always think when people are late that I know they don't mean it, but it is a passive aggressive way, meaning or not, that you're saying, my time is more valuable than yours. Yeah. You know, and it's... Especially if it's not, and, you know, I mean, LA traffic is crazy, but... But we know that. That's what they always say, traffic.

Like, oh, wow! What a new adventure. It was traffic. I had never anticipated... Of course traffic is bad. You factor that in. And we have it on our phones now. How bad the traffic is gonna be.

Yeah, exactly, I think that causes people to be late too, because they like, oh damn, I was only gonna take me 32 minutes to get there. I got time and then they look back at it and now it is 45 minutes and they say, damn, what happened? Some people just can't leave the house without trying on three different athletes. And when I say some people, I mean women.

Yeah. So, you know, they wanna make sure they look good for each other. Well, they wanna make sure they don't get clowned by each other. That's part of it. But it's also for us. Come on.

I'll tell you a story. You'll find this amusing. Like, I did this actually in my act with As A Bit, but it is a true story. About 15 years ago, I had a horrible, horrible night because I ate a pot brownie and did this stuff called a fedra. It was legal at the time. They pulled it off the shelf. It was a natural nut from Brazil, but it was basically speed. Yeah.

Yeah, it was, it was what they take to the energy drinks are probably, but this was like supercharged, okay. So I thought, oh, I'll take the fed refer, energy, and I'll take the pot brownie for creativity, I'll get so much work done. Of course, I was like out of my mind. I didn't know what reality was. I think I was sitting there for a very long time, unable to move, My heart was racing.

I finally called somebody. I literally did not know when I put the phone down. If I had done that or just thought I did that. So I called, so like 20 people showed up in my living room at hour late. I must have been calling at damn. And this one girl was the last one there. A girl I was kind of seeing at the time, Godlover.

She was like, I was coming down, there were other people there by the way. That was like an hour and 20 minutes after. And I'm like, hey, and shit, I know, and she was all made up. Even though I said I'm dying, it's an emergency, you have to come over here. She has, she's got made up.

She wants to make sure she looks good. She has, she got made up, she wants to make sure she look better, better dead and you look good than early and and you come out of it. Yeah. Who's in my life? Yeah. So she had to make sure she look good. Hey, you know, I guess everybody got the corks. You know, everybody got the corks. Well, of course, but... I mean, you're even married a long time. Yeah, okay. So you probably, you got used to one person's quirks. Yeah. I'm doing it.

And she got used to yours. Without a doubt. Right. And I got a few. But you have lived a admirably scandal-free life, I feel for someone as much in the public eye as you are. Yeah, and you know, I'm a good dude. You know, I'm in the end of the day.

I'm a good dude, you know. Yeah, I'm not saying you're not. I'm just saying it's kind of rare. You know, I didn't get into this business to get in trouble. I got into this business to be creative, to do cool shit with cool people. And so I keep it all in perspective. I know it's a thousand things I can get into this destructive, but it's a thousand things I can get into this constructive. So, right. You know, I just choose to spend my time. I'm just saying, cool shit, not everybody in show business has their head on straight like that. and this has their head on straight like that. In fact, I would say, would you not agree

that the rule more is that they don't? There's something about people in show business what draws people to show business or the type of people who succeed. As my friend Jimmy Oye says, and it's the greatest quote, he said, insanity photographs. Yeah, it does.

People love to. There's a lot of the people who work become the biggest stars or get the incredible followings. There is a kind of insanity in them. They're very often in their own world, especially musicians. You know, have no idea. I don't ask them who the vice president is. Yeah.

They get used to people handling them, right? And they get lazier and everything comes easier. And you know, pretty soon they're to just kind of being ragged all around. Well, and some of them, you know, are leading the charge. You know, it's, it's a, a, a, a, same by, uh, robbing, I just robbing Harris, you know, if I sit in first class, I want everything I'm supposed to get, you know, so, it's like, so people, I'm a rock star, Goddamn it. I'm a live, the rock star like, well, I'm a rap star. I'm it's like, so people, I'm a rock star, God damn it, I'm a live, the rock star

life. Well, I'm a rap star, I'm a little like. And the problem is that the whole world is essentially you're a neighbor. I mean, it's one thing if you have a more normal life and you have it a neighbor, you can go to that one person and say, look, you're not helping this guy at all by doing these things that are enabling him and his addictions. Addictions, including to picking out on fame and money and the privilege that is afforded to people who everyone else idolizes. But you can't, you can say it to one person, you can't say it to a fan base.

You can't say to all these people, hey, you're not doing this guy any favors by remaining his, they're gonna be his fans. Nowadays, fans are like stands, right? They're beyond fans. They get literally violent sometimes. If you, because you imagine going against the beehive, right? No, come on now, You want to get stung

it a thousand times a day. You know, so, yeah, you know, people, you know, they, they, you can create your own little kingdom, you know, and your own little head and they do little, you know, you know, it's all, it happens and but you have to work for it not to happen. You know, you have to be conscious. That's the, that's the line. And I have to work for it not to happen. Yes. You know, I looked in the mirror when I was a teenager still, you know, I had one or two cool songs that I was starting to bubble. And I looked in the mirror and I said know, I had one or two cool songs that was starting to bubble. And I looked in the mirror and I said, I don't, I still want to be myself, you know. I don't, don't lose that guy you looking at in that mirror. And every so often I make sure I take that long look and make sure that I still

recognize the guy that's looking back. Well, that guy publicly, if I had to associate him with one physical attribute, it would be scowling. Yeah, it comes naturally like, you're funny in your movies, especially when you're impatiently frustrated with people around you who are doing stupid shit. That's a great character without a doubt, because I think that's how you are. I mean, that's how a lot of us feel.

You know, it's like we're frustrated at the stupidity that we find ourselves in. And that the clear role sometimes seems so clear, but it seems like nobody wants to take that clear path. They kind of want to, you know, they want it funky. They want to, they want to kind of thrive off and feed off their emotions and let that, you mean the add emotions? Well, any emotion, like, you know, some guys, well, you know, like to be pissed off and yell and be, you know,

on 10 because they feel something, you know, if they're not on 10, they feel unheard and adequate and, you know, it's not a space where they can actually be heard. So, you know, they like to turn it up. Did you watch the, Did you watch succession? No. You never saw that one? No.

You heard about it. No. Come on. No. The HBO show's succession. I mean, I know about it. I mean, nobody comes and say, man, you know, since succession was great last night. You love it.

Nobody does? No, no, no, no. I wonder why that is. I don't know, maybe they don't think I'm into stuff like that. You would love this fucking show. You're a mogul, it's about a mogul. I bring it up because apropos at your point that the, it's a, it's a, it's a bermanoclay really of the Murdoch family.

Fuck's news. Yeah. So he's, it's a, it's a, it's a, he's old like Rupert Murdoch. Yeah Fox News. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it. Yeah, yeah, I definitely got a binge watch that. But the point is that this patriarch, this mogul Logan Roy, he's, you know, a billionaire, they shoot it at the greatest locations. We see his yacht, his castle, blah, blah, blah, his country home. He's got everything you could ever want. And he's just endlessly pissed off. And he just always, are we gonna circle for another hour up here, you know, he's mad that his private plane can't land because there's other planes land, you know,

and you can be that person to where you get 99% of what you could ever dream of and you obsess on the 1% you don't have. And you don't have. Yeah. And you don't want to be bad guy. Not at all. Right. Come on.

Like, you don't want to be rich and die trying. You know what I mean? Like, what the hell? It's like, dude, knowing you are full. Like, knowing to push the plate away. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, knowing the crew's, man. You could put that in a song. are full like no one to push the plate away right. No one to cruise me you could put that in a song. Yeah, no one to push the plate away. No one to push the plate away. That's a good title. They're a good line. Right. No one to cruise man, you know, like nobody would ever ride a bike if you had to pedal the whole time.

You know, you were always you were always a clever lyricist. Thank you. You know, you were always a clever lyricist. Thank you. That song, I always loved that song you did about it. It's a good day. It was a good day. Today was a good day. It was a very interesting way, unique to like, here's the way I can comment on the bad things,

which I really want to comment on, saying this what didn't happen today. Yeah. Yeah see that's new I mean you know it's it's uh to me is what Friday is all about like if the movie Friday is a drama. You are it's boys in the hood you You know what I mean without a doubt. Sure. But taking those situations and trying to laugh at ourselves and hopefully we see ourselves clearer. Well, that's a thought.

It is, to me, you know, why the movie hits. I also love the Wayne's movie. Is it the one with the long title of the movie. Don't be a minister. It's South Central, I'm gonna give you a gin juice. I'm Kenan, it's the mailman, and he's going message. Message, yeah. It's like it's one of the funniest way in movies ever.

Well also, but it's somewhat cathartic to be able to see them say things which I feel are trueism,isms that I can't say. Well, that's what it's all about in a way. You know, I think when you're, it's kind of like, I could talk about my brother, but don't you talk about my brother? Of course, that's true.

And, and I would rather hear the brother talk about the brother, but more than me anyway, because he know I'm a little better than me. He's gonna really get in there. So I think people, except that when it comes from their own, and it's hard to hear when it's from somebody else. Also, we live in an age of bad faith. And when I say bad faith, I mean, people don't argue or make points generally

about what they really believe or they really think will help things along. They do it on, what can I get you on? We live in Wilkistan. Yeah, you know. It's like you're sparring. Like you're sparring. Instead of learning from each other.

Correct, which is what it's all about. But also I can get you on something. Like, such a mean girl's attitude. You know, they're like, you didn't get the memo that we don't say, let's know many more. We say, let's T-next. Yeah, you say it. You know who doesn't say it? Let's T-next.

They fucking hate it. But it's like, no, we can change the rules. And then the people who haven't caught on will get them. It's, you know, we think it's fetched. Littinex. No. No. You know, it's weird how the names always change in every, so like 20 or 30 years somebody

wants to put a new label on the same thing. You mean, ethnic names? Yeah. Right. somebody wants to put a new label on the same thing. You mean that thing, name? Right. You go from this to that to that and I have it. Right. Not the end of the day. And with color, it used to be reversed. 50 years ago.

Yeah. And it's just done to really keep us bickering and chasing these words. Okay, so not really getting to the root of the issues which are most of the time very common if we really go there and to the root of it. Cut down a green more. But you said it's being done to divide us. Okay, by who? Who's doing it? Well, who benefits and profits off our bickering

and our division? And who like follow the money? I don't know their names, Bill, but if you follow the money, you go high enough, you start to see, okay. You know, this is an industry, okay, let's take, let's take rap music, let's take. Same people who are on the labels on the prisons.

So literally the same people, literally the same people who own the labels on private prisons. So it seems really kind of suspicious if you want to say that word, that, you know, the records that come out are really geared to push people towards that prison industry. But they didn't make you write those lyrics. It's not about making, it's not about making somebody write the lyrics.

It's about being making, it's not about making somebody write the lyrics. It's about being there as guardrails to make sure certain songs make it through and certain songs don't. Certain flavors are exposed on the record. You know, some records are made by committee. You mean in record company guys sit around and tell the artists, this is hot, say that, do this. We're gonna have this guy write the lyrics. We're gonna have that.

So the narrative is really kind of structured and really made into what the record company want the record to be. And what the, a lot of artists are frustrated with this kind of music making. A lot of people feel like they're being trolled by the label. This is how they do it.

Telling you what songs are saying, what hooks to do, what songs, you can do your song, that's fine. That's an album cut. But you want to, the single is what we all say is the single. So, you have, you know, the record company pushing the narrative, you know. And, you know, so, And so this to me is in some social engineering going on here to make sure those prisons stay full. Now, there's a lot of, of course, a lot of dots to connect to make that happen.

But I'm just giving you a broad example of how people at the top can manipulate what's going on with the people who are big or anything fight. I just gave you a music example, but there's examples of, of, of, of, of, can I crush, can I cross examine this theory? Of course you can cross examine, of course.

Of course. No, of course. So I appreciate that. Okay, so if your theory is that the prison industrial complex, and I agree, that's an abomination, start off with there. Prison should dive the net tutorials on this on my show. Prison is one of those things that should not be in private hands. Yes.

Along with healthcare, a few other things that are like, you know, the good part of socialism. They should not be run by people for profit. I agree with you. Yes. I did not know about this connection to the music industry that's the exact same people. That you mean that the people who run the record companies may have stock in prisons, private prisons, that's possible because they all have, I mean, do they actually like Monday, Tuesday go to work as a record company executive and Wednesday through Friday?

Go to work in the prisons? No, no, no, no. Okay, so if, of course, they're not actually running the labels. They have financial interest. They have financial interest. Okay, so if they have financial interest in the prisons, and your theory, if I'm following correctly, is that the kind of stuff in rap lyrics works as a funnel

to get people inspired to do the kind of things that would get them in prison, right? Like for example writing a lyric, fuck the police Yeah, I mean right in the lyrics of the police might get somebody arrested and sent to prison that might get somebody arrested and sent to prison That's just one example one record that the record company did not manipulate You know, that's pure artistry Right, but I pure artistry. Right. But I've seen labels.

I've... Did they manipulate... Were the artists... Did they manipulate you? No. I'm a... Never. I'm an independent artist. Always have been. I started off on independent labels.

So how were you able to... And avoid this trap that so many others fell in? What did you do right? I wouldn't let an art... avoid this trap that so many others fell in. What did you do right? I wouldn't let an R-asshole in my studio play. You're not fucking coming in here telling me how to make a record. Right.

I'm coming from the heart. I'm gonna do what I feel. So I never allowed an R-to... I never had anybody, an army, but Dr. Dre. You know, so that's pretty. I, you know, I just wasn't ever going for it. And, you know, they just kind of like, let me alone do my thing.

And I was on the independent label like priority. I wasn't on a major. And majors, you know, they do it with seniors, they do it with rappers, they have a lot to say in what's the finished product. Isn't it always the case anywhere in show business, but okay, let's just talk music. Where the people who are the most talented and are making money, therefore, for the label. Of course, you get to, yeah.

Of course, you get to make your own rules because it's always about if you're making money for me, you can get away with anything. Roseanne once sang the national anthem in front of some stadium before like the Super Bowl or some big game World Series or something. And like butchered it almost on purpose. It was like, you can imagine when America

made of fucking with the, their precious anthem. They wet Ape Shit. But her show was number one on ABC, so they kept her. Mm-hmm. Later on, she did something bad, and they got rid of her. Times had changed. But my point is, like, when you're making people money,

they are going to leave you alone. It's the people who can't afford to tell them to fuck off. I don't know about that. Really? I think the more money you make, the more money that you're making for a label, more than likely, the more money you're costing to produce the records, to do all that. They have so much invested that they're gonna,

I say, micromanage even more. Like the biggest artists got labels and they ask all the time to keep it going, to keep the cash cow rolling. Right. You know, you have of course role artists that do their own thing, but you know, usually the label kind of backs off of them and goes with the artist they can really, where do you record? You must be at your home. Yeah. with the artist they can really... Where do you work, man? You must be here at your home.

Yeah, I got a spot in Burbank behind Burbank Airport, and then with COVID came around, I had to put a studio in my house so to still be able to get down. Why didn't you, and that's usually what people on your level do, isn't it? Why? I don't wanna fucking base players and try.

Right, fucking fingers. I'm coming in my house and shit. Right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Where the go to the studio, they can hang out, smoke weed, and do the shit they do, and I don't have to worry about being a fucking motherfucker.

Or waking up my wife, you know what I'm saying? Like, have to worry about that. Exactly, fucking them my carpet or waking up my wife. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, I get it. Yeah, right. I always have an appeal with some shit. You know what I'm saying? I gotta watch it, man, shit. You know what I mean?

Like, it's my personal shit up there. And I want to have to watch no damn. And you are, how often do you go into this studio? When I feel it, you know, it's a straight off to gut feeling thing, you know, it's really about inspiration. You know, I don't make records now for the radio. I don't make records for, to begin a fucking Grammy

and those shit like that. I make records for my clientele, for ice cube fans. People who love to hear me rap. That's what I make records for. Everybody else can get it, how they live. You know what I mean? So all I care about is make an ice cube fans happy with the music.

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Yeah. You know, neither do you. You know, and I feel like that is what you said is how I feel also. I do what I do for the people who have already pretty much established that, yes, they're on my wavelength, they have open minds, they want some place and somebody on television

and in concerts around the country, but mostly on television or here, but television is much more political, who will have a real discussion with people. Yeah. And I do it for them. And they're a dwindling mob, by the way. Wow.

You know, it's people are so partisan. I mean, the world needs that. World needs straight shooters. Yes. Who are not worried about just being safe. You know, when I heard nobody feelings or when I feel nobody, you know, it gets kind of... But also not in a bubble already.

Yeah. I don't want to fuck with the bubble people. I mean, for years, I made fun of the Fox News bubble because it was sort of the only bubble. And then I feel like the left, oh, they actually built the bubble up their own. It's weird. It's weird, you know. And I think, you know, at a certain point, you, it's like, you, you jumping on a team, you know, is, it's like, it's like you're jumping on a team. You know, it's like, teams about. All about team. Yeah.

It's only about team. Nobody looks at anything through the lens of, what is the actual truth? It's like, does my team get behind this? And the media is the problem, because the media, especially like the people like MSN, B.C. and Fox News, every story is, okay, how can we tell this story in a way that, okay, maybe it doesn't lie,

but we can leave some shit out. It depends on what we accent. Let's accent the stuff that we know our audience is gonna love. That's gonna make those hamsters hit the wheel and say, give me more of that crack. That's what the media does. And like, how long can you binge watch your own, you know, kind of like endlessly for

a lot of these people is the answer. Endlessly is they have it on all day. I know people of MSNBC on all day and they hear the same people and I like all those people and they're smart people and most of my politics align with them even but I can't do it. I can't. I don't want to hear any story where I go, okay, I'm not doubting what you're telling me but I know there's things you're not telling me. And I don't like that. Yeah, it becomes like a stick. Exactly stick. A stick, you know, like, you know, we do it this way over here. You know what I mean? Don't I saw this, you know, I'm flipping through TikTok. I saw this little, I guess it was a movie.

The lady was, she was coming to take the order and she was like, what you don't want? And the guy was like, what? What you don't want? Because we only serve, you know, we serve meat and tatas or meat and rice. So what you don't want, you either don't want tatas or you don't want to rise. So, it's like, there's all we got,

don't ask for shit else. Right. This is what we serve. You know, we just drop in transmissions. You know, don't ask for paint job here. This? Yeah. Only bulbs, you know, there are stores like that. Yeah, that's it.

Do you sell shade? The sign says only bulbs, you know, coming here. You're coming here, you're coming here. Yeah, but all day long. But, uh, yeah, I mean, this is a country, I would say, where everyone wants to order off the menu. Yeah. Everyone sees himself as an order of the menu person, which I guess, you know, the truth is for all the shit that you hear about this country, and there is

a lot of shit and a lot of problems, we actually are kind of now, as compared to the rest of the world, kind of kicking ass. I mean, we came out of the pandemic economically better than any other country and almost did worse in it because we have so much obesity and that's basically what truck people down will be at such bad numbers. You know, but how do people feel? The people feel that way. The people feel out of the pandemic.

We all feel a lot better. It seemed like people feel like, they almost had their wits in. Yeah, but again, I hear this, and I know what it is, and I'm not denying there's a lot of it out there. It always is. This is human life. It's not a picnic for a lot of people.

I've no parts of my life that were just horrible, you know, so I get it. But when I drive around, I don't see like a country that's falling apart. You know, Trump is out there. It's dying. America's dying. It's not dying. Maybe I'm going to, that's just the greatest way, but I know I drive all around. I'm in different cities, touring, you know. I see a lot of life and restaurants and people and they're not like unhappy and money is being spent. Unemployment is super low. Inflation is a bad thing.

That's like a real thing that they did by spending way too much fucking money that they didn't have to spend on the pandemic. You know, I don't know people. I'm in the kind of business so I know people that's doing good but I know people that's struggling. Of course. No people that go to the grocery store and see,

you know, 35 dollar eggs and shit and like what the hell's going on. You know, so I think, you know, the country, but what's the solution? Needs an animal, you know, real bad, you know, it's a lot of foolish stuff. So much shit. That needs to just be

um, drained out of the air. But a lot of it is bipartisan shit. Like, what I mean by that is like, the debt is gonna kill us, but both of them do it, both of them, as soon as they get in office, they spend more than they have. A lot of it, the scam artists that run this country, the California, I just read, finally gave up on there.

They were going to build a high-speed rail. Started in 2008. Yeah. 15 years later, just could not get it done because the amount of fucking pigs at the trough, who all needed to wet their beak and take some shit out of that, the people, the consultants, and the lawyers, and all these middlemen

who weren't actually building the fucking railroad. It became so expensive, like $200 million a mile, to build this thing, that they just finally gave up. After they spent like $180 billion to build a train, a railroad that is not happening. That's the kind of shit that, when you say, Endima, that's what I think. Yeah, I mean, that's just,

is unfathomable. That you could waste that much money. Cause I feel like on a bunch of nothing. As much as they throw money at problemss like people who are struggling. Yes, there is terrible income inequality in this country, but It's still the rich you pay the most taxes. You pay a lot of taxes are not pay a lot of tax. Yeah More than I like to yeah, okay, so it doesn't seem like more of that is gonna change anything. No, because we pay the taxes, but we don't have a saying where they go.

But a lot goes to the programs you think perhaps would do better with more money. Well, you know, it's probably, you know, a bunch of, a bunch of, you know, people at the top, like you said, a bunch of people, you know, a lot of lawyers, I think this country is, is over litigated. It's too many lawyers, too many Kate, too many, yeah. So too many lawyers, too many Kate, too many fabulous lawsuits, too many, too many coward judges who won't throw that shit out. Well, you know, we haven't said the president or, or I don't want to be the one to kick that out.

Let the pills court do it. And it's like, you're supposed to be here for commissants. And you know, you're just basically a clerk. So it's just, I mean that's true. It's a, you know, it's like, it's like, you know, I love Vegas, you know, but no matter how many lights they put up, it's still about gambling and you know, walking out there, porting you walked in is the game. You know what I mean? No matter how you...

Shopping out of the house, how pretty you make it. Right. It's all about, you know, they want you to leave, you know, shopper ready for your money. Play. You can play and have fun and play the little game, but basically they want your money. They don't want you to win.

If you win too much, they'll escort you out. You know, I just played Vegas last weekend. I love Vegas because when I'm in Vegas, I feel like it could truly be myself. A prostitute with a gambling problem. No. But there is something. There is something in his favorite part. But there is something about being in a town that is the one thing in America that's there

and made for adults as opposed to children. Everything else is for fucking children. And as someone who's never had children, you know, obviously I feel a little bit of a fish out of water. But when Vegas tried to be like for the whole family in the 90s, they failed because it's not bad. When they reinvented themselves with the slogan, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

I mean, you can't get closer to saying, we're not gonna talk about the girl you brought home from the experiment right now. Yeah. We're not gonna talk about it. Okay. And leave you little kids at home. Right.

I'd leave the kids at home. You know, I don't see any hardly any kids anymore when I go to Vegas. You just don't see it. I wonder if they're banned. I'm talking about it. You know, a lot of people is like, F-T-K, man, fuck them kids.

Right. But, I mean, you're, I don't only know you're one kid who's a fantastic actor. Oh yeah. I'll say, Junior, made a great little place for himself. Yeah. I mean, I love my kids. Like, I'm sure they're amazing.

They're good people, you know, and at the end of the day, that's all you wanna contribute, you know, you wanna contribute good people who are not trying to scam somebody, not trying to beat somebody who's not trying to scam somebody and not trying to beat some of the news, not trying to get over. They're not into the, you know, the drug to drinking the gang banging the bullshit. They're not into that. And all your kids are like that.

All of them, you know, they're not womanizers or nothing like that like you. But what I'm saying is they're not bringing a bunch of babies home. Right. You know, and all that kind of crazy shit. And they not, they not wow. Like they not taking advantage. Like they could be like some kids would be like, I would probably be like, if my father was ice cube.

No, everybody around here would know, this fucking little cue, he keeps coming around here fucking, you know, wanting his way all the fucking time. You know what I mean? So, no, you obviously didn't write. I mean, that's not coincidence. When kids come out good, look, somebody once said, who has children has given hostages to fortune, it's true.

Bad shit can happen to good people But in general when the parents do it right The kids come out good Yeah, I mean, you know, I've seen some great parents with some crazy ass You know like you know, but you don't know how they parent it when you weren't there. That's true. That's true That's true in general. Yeah. That's true. In general, yeah, I really feel like and a kid doesn't actually even need to, to his better. They just need one person who's gonna always be there. And well, no matter what you do, if their

kid is mad at the world, I'm still gonna stay. You can throw rocks at my head. I'll be there tomorrow. And don't give into their bullshit. Yeah, that's my life, Kim. Don't wanna be their friend. Yeah. You can be their friend when they're grown up and they're made when the clay has been molded. But not before. That's what today's parents fuck up with.

They wanna be their kid's friend. Or they're just not your job. Or they're totally scared of their kids. They don't want to say shit to them. I do a bit about that, but you know what I mean? They don't want to say nothing to them. They don't want to, like, they don't want their kids. They're like the proxakely trembling.

Yes. When they're ready to go. Yeah. They're ready to go. I know. It's the wildest sight, you know. I think you got to firm, be fair, and you gotta be the parent.

You can't fall apart one day, like, you know, and just throw a tantrum and shit and, you know, be a kid. Like, you gotta hold it together. And so, you know, you're an example, you know, you a kid. Like, you can't, you gotta hold it together. And so, you know, you're an example, you know, you don't, they don't watch you. I feel like the black community has a lot of, like, on both ends of this spectrum,

like parents who were, didn't do the job at all and a lot of kids raised my grandparents. And then lots of parents who are like so much better than the white parents because they don't take bullshit and they just do it the way we used to do it the right way. You know, you'll hate me for this, but a girlfriend years ago and she said to me, the difference between me and my white friends is when I fuck up like in the supermarket, the white friends, when we get home, my mother right here. And that's how you do it. That's how you do it. That's how you do it.

I mean, you know, you gotta nip it in the bud. You know what I mean? You really do. And um, but he was great in Ingrid goes west. Yeah. I bet you'll bring a lot of people have not seen that movie. Maybe now that Aubrey Plaza is such a big star, who I always was a huge fan of. I, every time I was in a hotel room, I'm on the road usually, you know, where I watch my movies like in the hotel, when they have the first-run movies.

Yeah. And this chick was always in some awesome indie movie I never heard of. And, chick was always in some awesome indie movie I never heard of. And I'm happy for it. But that was such a great movie. She's awesome. He's awesome.

Such a great comment. It was about social media and this chick who like gets sucked into, you know, she did. It's so such a great comment on the kids today who like live more in a virtual world, yeah, than a real world. Yeah. It's, well, you know, he picks great films to do.

You know, I'm explicative. Yeah, I grew up, I mean, you know, coming up through it, I did a lot of hood movies, but he's, you know, he wants to, you know to go outside the box. So I'm really proud of his decision-making. He's in Spain right now, he's working on dinner thieves too. Oh, yeah, so it's very cool to see him

take the baton and run away. Yeah, and not fuck it up, you know Yeah, not fuck it up and not give credit to a nipple baby Without a doubt I tell him I say man you second generation Hollywood man going there and act like right Only don't go in there and act like you some starving artists and shit. Now, I know. Hey. I did a thing on NEPO babies before the strike shut us down.

And I was saying, first of all, I don't begrudge them. They're very often great because very often the gene is in the family. You know, and often you're around it. And so it comes second nature. And you absorb it from your talented forebearer. That's all good. Just don't say, I had it harder. No, you didn't have it harder.

You actually had it a little easier because it's always a good story to have somebody who is, or like, hey, it just got my foot in the door. Well, a lot of show businesses getting your foot in the door. So okay. But still people are very talented. What I was saying was show business, Nepo babies, politics, Nepo babies, the one place that has no Nepo babies is sports, which is why I trusted more than anything else.

Yeah. Like, you can be the son of a player, but you're not there because you're the son of a player. Doc Rivers' kid is good enough to be in the NBA. Yeah. It's not because his father's Doc. Not at all. So, sports is the only thing I trust 100% whereas I know the 450 people in the NBA are the

best they can find in the world. And they do go all over the world. And they're looking every day. Yeah, I bet they are. They're fucking looking every day. Of course. It's not like we got our team. We don't have to.

Right. So they're always looking to improve. Hey, what a perfect segue. And I never had one in this show before because I don't do segue because I'm too stoned, but That segway hit me in the head you have a basketball league. Yes, the big three. That gave me just like a real talk show host here Future nisman Tell me about your

Tell me about your basketball league ice cube. I Tell me about your basketball league, Ice Cube. I hear it's exciting and the new thing in basketball. Without a doubt, you know, it's the big three, professional three on three. Yep. You know, it's kind of like, three on three has been the step cousin of five on five forever.

It's what, when I heard about your league, I said, this is how I play. This is what I do. Yes. Half court, three on three, all the rules. So we just did then just make, you know, kind of elevated to the professional level. Added some wrinkles that the NBA can't do, you know, like a four point.

We have four point circles out there. So if you shoot 30 feet from the basket, man, you deserve extra point. And so, can I, as the imprimatur of this great new league knows this better than anybody? And you are the authority. Can I bring to you an argument that I have with a basketball player, a friend of mine named Woody Harrelson? No problem. We play here all the time.

Yeah. Okay. Here's my contention. Your plan half court. Yes. The guy shoots an air time. Yeah. Okay. Here's my contention. You're playing half court. Yes. A guy shoots an air ball. Yes. I say that still has to go back court because you're trying to simulate exactly what would

happen with a full court. In a full court, if a guy shoots an air ball, you don't suddenly change baskets. But Woody Harrelson and many other people say, no, in half court, if a guy shoots an air ball and you get the rebound and you're on the other team, you can go right up and score. Yeah. It's the equivalent of a turnover fast break. Don't, you know, a guy shoots an air ball

and doesn't hit the rim. So you're with Woody on this. Yes, that's how we play the game. Jam! What did I stumble into that? I got you know, don't hit the rim. Like, you know what I mean? Like, okay, like we can have little babies out here that don't hit the rim, you know what I'm saying?

So like, I've got to hit the rim if you're, you're, if it's a serious shock. Excuse me, but the pros sometimes shoot airballs. Okay, and this eternal over and then go back. And this dunks. Yeah. You know, and so how's eternal, how should it turn over be dealt with?

You're coming, you're driving in a guy pokes it right to the guy right up under the basket from the defensive team. He should be able to lay that up because it's a turnover. He should get an easy basket because they turned you over. I feel like this is poor logic. The point of half court is, if you picture the court, the full court. We don't want to waste all that time going through the middle part of the court. We want to get to where the action is, which is within 30 feet of the basket. So instead of going all the way back each time,

back and forth, we take the ball back court. And then we play at the same basket. By that logic, anything that would happen that would cause you to go to the other end of the court has to go to back court. It's just a shorter trip. I understand that in logic. I don't know, I'm gonna get the scowling guy. We'll push, push, push, push.

Just like you have boxing and you have MMA, okay? MMA is in a cage. Boxing is in a squared circle, octagon. Yeah, you know, the octagon. I mean, MMA is in the octagon. I'm just a cage, octagon. Right. Okay, then you got the squared circle.

Got boxing gloves, you got little mitts. Even though it's fighting, even though it's pretty much the same, there's still adjustments, there's still things that make MMA exciting, there's things that keep boxing exciting, that's all their own. So, you know, the whole thing about like, okay, this is how they do it in full court,

we create a whole new game here, three is a whole different game than five. Right. Because it's a lot more personal. You know, five on five, you can be a specialist. You can just be a defensive guy. Or rebound or three and a guy. You know what I mean?

Mountain three on three. Right. You got a pass shoot, defend, and score. You know, pass shoot, defend, score. Passhoot, defend, and score. Rebound. You gotta do it all, or you'll be exposed. Spend, really embarrassed. Right, because I've played many games

where one guy is lame. Yeah. I'm three. And it does throw off the balance. I mean, without a doubt. Yeah. So I have been that guy a few times. I'm sorry.

Hey, you know what happens? It's not a good feeling. It's not, you look up. It's not, you look up. Everybody's better than me. Right. Or you're just having a bad day. Normally you're not the worst,

but for some reason, some reason, yeah. You know, even the pros have two for 18 nights. Yeah, you know, it's funny how that happens. Well, it's funny, what's funny to me about basketball is too thick. If I had never seen a guy shoot a basketball from 25 feet away or even 20 feet away, if I'd never seen that in my life, I would think the chances of getting that ball into that hoop are one in a thousand. It just, yeah. And yet when you do it, it's, you know, I mean, the pros, if they, when they're not guarded,

it's like eight out of 10. Yeah, it's insane. And when they are guarded, it's half, if they're good. Yeah. But even on any given night, I mean, it's such a small margin of error. I don't know why some days, like I feel fine. I'm not drunk.

I've played drunk. I've played better drunk. But for whatever reason, the same shots just are off by two inches. And that's enough to just give you that bad night. That's what makes us amateurs. You know what I mean? That's what makes us amateurs. But even the pros do it. Yeah,

very very very very few pros like LeBron James is one of the very few you just never see two for 18. Yeah, you just never see it. He's never. He's efficient and he's just never bad. It's never like, oh, one of those nights. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, very fewer like that. That's why he's king. Yeah. That's why he's the king. Why are you saying he's the best ever? No, I don't know about that. It's the king, but I don't not say any. He's the, yeah. Well, they, I mean, they play, it's so hard to when people have those sports arguments about who was better, Babe Ruth, they played in such different times, with such different circumstances against different people. Yeah, I mean, the Jordan era was so much more physical, there was a lot, it was rough.

It was rough, where, same in football, you know, they used to not protect the quarterback at all, not at all, they used to not protect the quarterback at all not at all He used to be I mean Oh, what what what happened to Joe Montana is this criminal. I mean that hit he took to put him off two years I don't even remember that but I do remember the the Lawrence Taylor against Joe thysman, that leg. I can still see it. It's one of the grossest things.

I thought I would never see anything like that in football. Oh, it's like that can happen. It's like, yeah, that can happen. No, so, you know, they definitely are playing a game now that for I find frustrating to watch and a lot of people do it too much flopping. Too much flopping. It's almost like it's half basketball, half ballet. You've got all these moves that they do that are sort of like automatic standing there to get the charge.

It's not natural. It's not how you really would play defense. It's like we're merging this into some sort of kabuki theory. I mean, I think they're more, you know, they play 82 games. That's a hell of a lot of basketball games. And I think they're really worrying about a guy, you know, instead of getting a guy who goes all out and gives you six years of all out, they want 10, 12 years out you. So they want you to last a little longer. They don't want you to take the hits. They don't want it to be as physical.

They want, you know, guys, what the tech is. Get knocked away. Yeah, everybody, you know, that's why in the big three, we don't play that shit. You know, it's like back to old school, physical, hand check and come in the lane and it is nice. And, you know, that's how we grew up playing. Guys can trash talk, they won't get a fuck attack and throw them out so you could be yourself.

We got two robots playing. You have deep push-afired basketball. Yes. I took, I definitely put the, you know, what we loved about the game, that it wasn't an easy bucket, that nobody was gonna get out your way. You're gonna have to earn it, real defense.

And I took out the game clock, so it's first to 50 win. Right, just like the back of the game. And we have a shot clock, so you 14 seconds to get it up, so you can't sit there and talk and dribble, but it's fast pace. And guys love to play. You know, guys love to play.

The NBA hates us. You know, they think, you know, the white kids are competition because you're showing them up. Well, they don't like us changing basketball without accident for permission. We didn't go and say, please, Adam, silver, please, please.

Can we put a four point circle in our game? Can we please do innovative things that you guys are too slow to do. There are always in sports there have been competing leagues. And usually they get absorbed. Now, this couldn't happen with you because you're playing a completely different game. I mean, you know, I mean, they could be, they can actually work with us and not against us. You know, they work with the other, they work with the WNBA And they work with the WNBA.

They work with the WNBA. They work with, you know, they have the GLE. They also work with this TBT, the basketball league, you know. And it's a, and it actually is beneficial to them because a lot of the people in your league are recently retired NBA stars. So the fans have an affection for the recently retired. They followed them their whole career. Okay, we get it. It's time you go out to pasture. It's not a longevity thing sports, but we still like to see them in the past. Where do they go? The broadcast booth.

But they still can play. They just can't play. sports, but we still like to see them in the past. Where do they go? The broadcast booth. But you know, they still can play. They just can play. They just can't play 82 games. And they just can't play against guys who are 22. They actually can. They just can't play 82 games against guys. That's 22, you know. But you know, nobody plays 82 games because they have these nights where you go to the Broadway play and it says there's a little thing, a sticker in the play bill that says the perform the part of Hamlet tonight will not be played by the guy you came to see. But you know, Joe Schmigeggi.

And that sucks. And that happens in the NBA. Yeah. I mean, they rest players deliberately. Like they're not hurt. It's just like take two games. There's too many. Too many.

Even if they're young. What? Even the young players take the time also. 82 games is too many. In our league, they play 10 games. Once a week, half court to 50, go all out. We don't just have a tire players. We have, you know, young players, 27-year-olds,

you know, we go as young as 22. And guys in that setting, it's a whole different game. So, we've had guys come from the NBA into the Big 3 and not do good. And we had guys in the big three, never made it to the NBA, you know, when the championship. So it's its own sport. Right. And that's probably why they don't dig it, you know. But we've been here for, you know, just six years. And they can't...

Yeah, it takes a while for something new to catch up. People are not great fans of new. No, I mean, you know, just like, they wanna see, they wanna see if you can make it work. You know, a lot of people just kinda wanna watch and see if this is something I can get behind is gonna be here every year. You know, a lot of, you know, unfortunately we had to go through COVID

and and and other new leagues came and went, you know, like just AAF League, XFL came and it went and it came back with the Rock, USFL. You got all these different leagues that's that's kind of around. You know how they got pickleball and right, you know. You got all these different leagues that's kind of around. You know, now they got pickleball and bread. You know, so you have to fight through all that noise and let them know, no, no, no, we're here to stay. You know, we're not going anywhere. And, you know, we're gonna be the fastest league to profit

and pro sports league history. No, I think as a midlife crisis project, it's ranks much to the top. Because people do some crazy things when they get to be like, you know, late 40s, 50s. And like, okay, the things that worked out, and then they just, okay, I think what I need to do is build a rocket ship.

Go to space. You know to space. Go to space. Or you gotta stay creative. Being creative is why I got into the business. I didn't think I was gonna make a quarter doing rap music. We was just doing it for fun. You know, to be cool, to be clever,

and to be a part of a new wave, a music that everybody, older than us was really shunnin'. How do you feel about the police now? Things have changed. Like I've always felt about them, you know? They don't think they've changed at all? In what ways, you know, I think they, well, they never used to arrest their own and put them on trial and put them in jail. That's one major thing.

Yes. I think the people push that change, you know, I don't think, yeah, but I don't think the police police are internally. Police are people. I understand that, but police are a bad organization. You know, they're a fraternity. Yes. And they, you know, they had a rules of engagement. Some, you know, are in the police manual, some or not.

You know what I mean? So they're not- The bad ones are the ones that are in unfortunately, you know, serving for tech is not really on their mind, winning go home. Yes. So there's a lot of problems that that was happening in 89 when we did the record and the same problems that happened in today. Of course, because we did the record and the same problems that happened in today. Of course, because we did the record, police are, to me, held accountable

because before the record, they wasn't, you know. But when you guys understand, and just because the cops say you did it, everybody thought you did it. Society is different. 18, 18, yes, 1889, 1889, 20, 23, just is. It is. And cops are people who come from society.

So the chance that a cop would have been racist in 1989, I feel is greater than a young person who coped. It's basically a young man's game when they're out on the street. Okay. So a guy he's 25, he was born in 1998. He was born in an era where about the most uncool thing you could be was to racist. Now, there are pockets of this country, of course, where that's not true. But why would you go there?

They have no good restaurants. You just wouldn't have to go to a holler in Appalachia. I think it's a situation where cops, they are young. Because they're sometimes, they don't know how to talk to people. They don't really know how to communicate. The young generation really don't really communicate as well. Because of the phone, because of the phone, you know, all kinds of different social reasons that they don't talk to each other.

They'll be sitting in the same room texting each other. So, um, what do you mean? Sometimes the young cops don't know how to communicate. So, they go straight for the first, you know, because they don't know how to talk you down. They don't know how to say, hey, man, come over here. Let me, yeah, what's going on? So, they don't really know how to communicate. So, the force comes with that. And, you know, action is the police different. It's like action is the military different. You know, they, you might have wanted to different kind of soldiers come in and out,

but the basic organization is the same. It's not gonna change, you know, it's there to win and not to lose. You mean to get home safe, to get home safe no matter what? That's always been one of my big problems with the police. They don't appreciate me saying, but I have. They have a bad attitude about how dangerous their job is and how much the priority is them not being in danger. If you want to never be in danger,

be a plumber. The worst that's going to happen is you're going to be snaking a drain and you smell like shit. This, there is an element of danger. So when they say things like a better to be judged by 12 than carried out by six, you've heard that. That is the wrong. The wrong rap lines too. Yes, it was. That is the wrong attitude to have about the job of policing. You can't be like, okay, how do I solve this problem of me feeling scared now? I shoot the thing that's scaring me. That has to be cured in the police department. Yeah, across lines, because they're not gonna cure that. Because, you're right.

Because they want their partners to have that attitude, their partner want them to have that attitude. And if each one have that attitude, this is why somebody gets shot 85 times. So, you know what I mean? So everybody, you know, the thing is empty your clip because AI is gonna ask you, why didn't you,

why you only shoot 10 shots instead of 16 like everybody else? Did you feel like it was over? Did you stop for a reason? No, so everybody empties their clips. So nobody looked like the threat was the same for everybody. Everybody was just as scared, and now this guy is shot 51 times, you know. See, you know what?

I've mentioned that many times on my show the thing about shooting everybody has to empty their clip. I never understood before you explain that why they do that. Yeah, I thought it was just because they were so all just jacked up and up. But this makes a lot of shoot. No, I get it. And because they were so all just jacked up and up. But because it makes a lot of shoe. No, I get it. Two shots. I told you.

And this guy shot 16. I get it. You know, you're going to be like, I remember quoting this statistic once, and then this is a while ago, but maybe there was some like 2011 or something, but like the entire country of Germany, I think in that year, the police fired like 91 shots in the entire whole country that used to be full of Nazis. Yeah. And that was just like the opening salvo.

You remember when the Sarnay of Guy, the kid who bombed the Boston Marathon, he was hiding in that boat. Yeah. And that boat was so shot up, and they missed him. And they still missed him. Wow. It was like, it was like a parody, the boat, every place that a bullet hole

in the kid was fine. He'd be look up. Yeah. But if you were a cop, don't you think, would you feel that way? I mean, if we probably all would, if we were pressed into that service. Yeah, I mean, it's a stressful job. Yeah, you know, stressful.

And it's probably not a job you should do every day. But I bet you a lot of it is more, I think the reason people do it, it's more fun than sitting behind a desk. First of all, most people kiss your ass. Like, yes, there is danger, some danger, although they have statistics on this, and it doesn't crack the top 10. Yeah.

Police work is less dangerous than such daredevils as fishermen, cab drivers, and people will work on telephone wires. So, like, it's not the most dangerous job in the world. But, yes, there is danger, but you go into that. It's like a proctologist complaining, I'm looking at people's asses all day. Yes, because you decided to be a proctologist.

Exactly, bro. And, you know, it's a thing where, it's a thing where, you know, that might be a reason too why they get so jacked up when there's something going on. That's probably why I tend police show up, you know, because they're so fucking bored. You know, it's kind of like, yo, it's something going down. Let's get over there and get some of this action.

You know, let me get a lick in. You know, it's kind of like a team that practices, but never gives a chance to play. You know, everybody wanna get a lick at it. It does seem like when they want to have a million cops in any one place, it's not that hard to do. No, I mean, they can all show up and they all stand around for two hours. Yes, there's a lot of standing around.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, yes, there is danger and there is sometimes disrespect and cops do get shot. I mean, they do get assassinated. It's cool idea to go to work every day and they're like, oh yeah, it's like turning on the light switch and there's one in a thousand chance

or whatever chance that I could get, you know, that's not cool. Yeah, but then you see, what I don't understand, you'll cop, you frustrated, you wanna kick a little ass tonight, right? The kid who just went into the church and shot nine or 10 people, put a bulletproof vest on him and protect him.

But the little kid, the 18 year old, does a mouth and off at the mall, crack his eye socket. You see what I'm saying? It's like, what's the bullion? Like, why don't you guys give it to the ones that deserve it over just some innocent kid who's mouffin' off.

Okay, this is my other complaint with the police. Two concerned with your safety over the people's safety or pledge to protect. And also, and also the thing about complaining about disrespect when most people give you free food and you walk around like kings everywhere. You can hit on any girl. We all know every girl has a story about cops.

Yes. Maybe I should protect you by following you home now that I pulled you over for no reason, except driving while pretty. Yeah. You know, they, they, on it. On it.

On it. On it. All that. Yeah. But the other one is, oh shit, no I forgot, because I no, I forgot, because you're gone. I don't wear a body man. You know, it's, to me, it's a thousand days.

We can come up with that ain't cool. No. But, you know, it's really about, but you need some about respect. Well, and, and a society needs police. Definitely. We know that. I'm not saying.

Of course. You know, you're a son. All police are, no, I know. You're, you're, you're, you're, I'm not saying of course, you know, no your son all police are no, I know you're you're you're I'm just point out Why it's no different than it was, you know, it's it's the same How would you know? How would you know you live in some giant palace? I mean everybody. I know don't so you know, I hear what what my folks got to go through and what? Well, you know, a lot of them, you know, they deal with the police in different kind of ways. You know, a lot of them, some of them, they got records. So, you know, the police is checking in on them, every now and then. Right.

Fucking with them. You know, some of them can't go out the country because of shit. You know, it's just different things that them going through the system has. It's not always abused, but it's always the system really kind of churning on them and you know, overworking them. I remember what my other complaint was. What?

The police need to have a better vetting system about who gets to be a policeman. There's too many people who become policemen because they were stuffed in a locker in high school and they wanna have a right. I think they want those guys. They, well, that's, you know, maybe you're right. I think they want those guys with chip on this show.

Maybe you're right. The guys who, you know, ready to give society what it deserves. Yes. It's kind of like having a, a, a dirty player on your team. As long as he play on your team, it's cool. Rick Mahor. Yeah. You know, it's Charles Oakley,

or Roman Nowsky, is my life. As long as he's on your team, it's cool, right. You know, many of you goes to the other team, then you say, you know, why are they letting this guy play? So like, they all in the same team, man. You know, they of you go to the other team, then you say, you know, why are they letting this guy play? So like they all in the same team, man, you know, they want the wolves. They don't want the Chihuahua's. I'm saying they want, they want guys who are ready to go get some. And you know, it's, you know, to some, it is a sport.

It is the action. It is all about the adrenaline rush and being physical and having power, you know, some guys are just power-free. It's interesting, we're talking, I don't know, whenever I go or something about how celebrities write, their mind goes cuckoo because there's too much adulation, you're exalted by people so you can get away with anything. It's a little like that when you're a cop because you can just basically do anything

because you are the police. What are they gonna do? Call a cop, I am a cop. That is a kind of... First of all, it's a lot of power to trust with a person. But of course, the alternative is not feasible. We do need police, but it's a lot of power to trust with a person. But of course, the alternative is not feasible. We do need police, but it is a lot of power. So you should pick much more carefully,

the kind of people who you're giving that power to. You're giving them a monopoly on violence. I don't think they care, because here's why. You and I. They don't... When those cops go out and do something bad, yeah. The police don't get to bill, like the police, nothing happens to the police department.

It all goes to city hall, they have to pay it. Right. The police still get their money. Nobody loses a dime. Right. Now, if you may, please get insurance, if you may, please get insurance. If you may, please get insurance. Now, do you wanna be a racist?

Or you wanna keep your badge? Because if you keep getting these complaints, or you keep brutalizing people and costing us money, we're gonna take away your insurance, but we'll take away your badge. You out of a career. So it's the insurance company call, but the police won't do that. But it's always an opinion. The doctor has to get insurance.

Why not a cop? The hard part of it is because cops are engaging with borderline people as their job. They're not engaging with the people who are just going about their lives, not doing anything shady generally. So, and they're scared and we've covered that. They shouldn't put their safety ahead of the citizens,

but that's who you deal with. I had a cop on my ultra politically incorrect and he said, when I worked in the Spanish neighborhood, I hated Spanish people. When I worked in the black neighborhood, I hated black people. And when I worked in the valley,

I hated white people. That's the problem. Yeah, but because you're dealing with, you know, people at their worst, you're dealing with people at their worst every day. You know, I think it's not a everyday job. I think cops are going every other day for one. Like basketball, play some stress on. Yeah, get yourself ready. No one could play 82 games. You never know what that guy went through in the last 10 or 12 hours. No.

But I think by not putting some kind of personal responsibility on the officers, then you lead to a George Floyd situation. This guy had over 20 complaints. You know what I mean? He wouldn't have been on the force to be able to do that. You know what I mean? He would have been some inshore's company

would have been like, dude, you got one more. I wanna see what you're sharing. And you're booted. Oh yeah. Cause you're costing us money with these complaints. Oh that's a good idea. You know, I'm saying so. It doesn't go to City Hall, doesn't go to taxpayer is is you know, and guys would think twice about being excessive. Right. You need force. Right. It's the excessive. No, everybody wants to find that right line. It's the excessive force. No, everybody wants to find that right line.

Yeah. It's hard, but it is hard when you're a cop. Because you don't know until after the situation is over. Now, in the case of George Floyd, completely unnecessary because he was no threat, he's on the ground. It's just being a dick. Which turned it to be. He backed the problem.

It's not, no, it's just. It's an in-win wrong. No, no. it's just. It's an incident when we're wrong. No, no. Something went bad. It's just a cop, you know, split second decision, made wrong decision, killed a guy. But it's a torture. It's the abuse.

It's the, but, take me too far. Okay, but, Oh, Jay Jackson. I must try. Senior. The different. I don't want you to mistake me for my son.

No, look, I should flatter you and say, why I thought you were brothers, but you know, plainly you're the father. Anyway, but the difference between 2023 or whenever that happened, 2020, and back in your day, writing your songs, is that back then, what they would have said is, we checked the police manual,

and it is completely, exactly as it does in the manual, you put your knee on his head until he's dead. That is what it was like. And they would have took him around saying goodnight. He's in jail. Yes.

Okay, so let's just acknowledge, we're not saying there's no work to be done. They might have the police changed. Did the police put him in jail? I think, but when you listen to police chiefs around the country, many of whom are African-Americans. Yes. You hear a deaf very distant.

A lot of them have no power though. A very low. As police chief? As police chief. What do you say that? Well, it's because for one, they're elected officials. That's not really coming out this rank and file. If they come out the rank and file, they have their power.

But sometimes they put these, they grab these police chiefs and put them in place. And you know, a lot of those guys are the last to know what their guys is doing on the street. They're just the last to know. You know, it's of those guys are the last to know what they're guys is doing on the street. They're just the last to know. You know, it's kind of like when you, it's like, you know, running your show. Sometimes when it's fucked up, it's somebody's like, who gonna go tell beer? And you're the last to know. And you're like, why y'all didn't tell me this shit three hours ago when I could have did something about it? Yeah,, I think, you know, they're caught up with the mayor

and the news conferences and the fundraising and the kissing babies and the high on the mayor's shit. And they don't know what they have, you know, their lieutenant's and their captains. And they, you know, they kick ass. We used to have a mayor here, Anthony, feeling a, Bill, Bill, a ridosa, some shit like that.

I feel bad. He's a nice guy. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Forget this, Anthony. Yeah, he's done. Bill and Rogosa. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Um, but this guy was like, I have never seen a guy who Bill or regosa. Bill or regosa, yeah. Okay. I was like, I have never seen a guy who put on that politician thing. I mean, you, he was like, it was almost like AI. And that shanshake was like beyond firm. Like I spent two weeks at Seaters. No, it was like this guy and he would just,

boy, some people are programmed for that job. He loved it. He loved it, fucking. And they good at it. And they good at it. Like Bill Clinton, they said used to always be the last person to leave any room. If 2,000 people were there and as they were filtering out, if he would talk to everybody who wanted to talk to him.

Damn. Elizabeth Warren would take selfies with everybody who wanted to talk to him. Damn. Elizabeth Warren would take selfies with everybody who wanted to sell the election. 4,000, can you imagine taking 4,000 selfies in a row? What would you have to want that bad? For me, the answer is nothing. Nothing. I would never be a politician.

No, you're not the type. You're begging too much. And I mean that it's a compliment. Thank you. You're not the type. You're begging too much. And I mean that is compliment. You're not the type. You're begging too much. No. But what politicians do you admire?

Is there anybody? I know we need an animal. We agree on that. I mean, it's going to be Biden and Trump probably, because, well, who doesn't want to fresh? 2024 election. I mean, well, it could be fresher than two 80-year-old retreads. You know, I'm a part of it.

Anybody on the horizon? I'm about as independent as they come. Yeah, I love that, man. You know, it's like, the partisanship is kind of getting us nowhere fast. And, but who do you like? What do you think my Robert Kennedy? You would like Robert Kennedy. Yeah, he was here just a week ago.

And by the way, you didn't take the vaccine, you give up money for it, I so admire that. Thank you. And without even having to get into vaccines, of which I mean, I count them done in the myred as much. I'm sure you know, my count is life doesn't like it. I mean, my wife, you know, she down,

so she, she with me 100%. Well, you also got to, you also have a billion dollars already. So I like your driving Uber now, because you gave up nine million dollars, nine million dollars, throw it on the pile. Well, you know, I think everybody could use it. So, but yeah, you know, to me, principles,

what you've, also, I've felt in my heart, and yes, it's too experimental. If your body, you don't even have to explain it. You know, I get called an anti-backed role, I'm talking about anybody who has questions. I'm not an anti-vaxx role. Anybody who has questions, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I should be able to make decisions about my own body because my body's different than yours, and my history is different than yours,

and this pathogen is new, there are some vaccines I would kill to get. It was very new. And it wasn't a year old. The disease wasn't that scary. And they just found out that it basically, it's almost certain now, it did come from the lab. Patient zero was the guy who worked in the lab. Ben, woo. Damn. So I think your decision is going to look good at history. Well, I mean, I know it looks good in my body.

And I know, you know, I know people who've had, you know, issues after. So, you know, I'm not anti-vax, I've been vax before, you know, but those vax, those vaccinations were studied for 50 years before they got to me. You know, so I just thought it was too soon. It's a deservedly controversial topic that this country does not want to have a debate. Or at least I should say the elitist types in this country who run the newspapers and so forth.

They just, their position should be in the media to question authority, but in this case, they see their position as to completely line up behind it. And like Robert Kennedy has talked about it in the New York Times like this, this vaccine hysteric. He's not a hysteric. He's a really smart guy who knows a lot of science and you should talk to him. I don't agree with everything

he says either. And I think sometimes he's gone a little too far and put a little... Who's gonna agree with 100%. Exactly. That's what I said. Nobody. You know, you got to feel like... Life would be pretty dull if you did. Yep. And we wouldn't love the world that we was in if you had to. So, We wouldn't love the world that we was in if you had to. So, you know, at the end of the day, he seems like a good dude who's trying to do the right thing. And, you know, sometimes you gotta look through all the bullshit and try to see the person inside.

No, I just, I just, he's got a candidacy that started out at 20% just right off the bat. Okay, some of that, of course, is the Kennedy name, but it's not all that. It's people want this other voice in the debate. And I find it just so depressing that a lot of the media organs get away with a joint decision too. Let's just strangle this baby in the crib. Yep.

Let's just say right from the beginning, as much as we can, as often as we can from as many of our writers as we can. He is some sort of cook, he's a crank, he's a knot, he's got misinformation as if science is just about what you know for sure. Sometimes it is, some things are settled science, but things like this are not.

And so let's just label him a cook that we kill in the crib. It just, yuck. Makes me fucking hate those kind of people. Yeah, man, because, you know, let him debate. Let him debate. Let him debate. Let him get up there with an expert in the pharmaceutical fields and let him have at it.

I'm pretty sure he'd welcome it. He definitely would welcome it. And I'd want to see him against someone worthy. Yeah. Because he needs to answer all the, I was trying to get him to answer some things I think he's going to have to answer on the campaign trail. But I was happy to hear him say things like, like we said, not an anti-vaxxer, it's not like we think the vaccines are a myth or that it's a little man inside the needle. I mean, we're not crazy people. It's a medical intervention that has a spotty record sometimes. I generally

believe that vaccines have done a lot of good in humanity, and including with COVID, where lots of people did need a vaccine because they are not healthy. And they should have gotten it, and it probably saved their lives. That's not me. Or maybe it is, but that's my judgment to make.

Without a doubt, you know, that's the freedoms we all supposed to have. Look, you got me drunk and ranting. Oh, shit. I knew it. Hey, man, you know, but that's why we appreciate what you do, man. You know, you, you, you are, you're not only, you know,

I mean, you, you do what we supposed to do. Question everything. Right. Why not? Question everything, you know, I mean, you do what we supposed to do, question everything. Right, why not? Question everything, you know. Well, listen, there's a fucking thrill having you here. It's really cool. I'm first of all just very flattered that you would do it. I know you're busy, a lot of stuff to do.

You don't have to come over here and talk to me. There's no money in it. So I know it came from the heart. It means a lot to me. What out of doubt, man, you know, I appreciate it. You still one of my favorite guys on TV. I appreciate it.

Always been. And I like it you a straight shooter. Boom. And I just. So you can ask for in this world nowadays. I never sell out. August 19th, you'll beat the ovens auditorium in Charlotte, North Carolina,

at the 20th at the township in Columbia, South Carolina. September 1st, AC alive at the Moody Trust in Austin, Texas, and September 2nd at the Grand Prairie. That's between Dallas and Fort Worth, I believe, there at the Texas Trust, CU Theater. Also, I have a pot store of the woods with Woody Arrowson who won that argument because of you, Mr. Icecube. Hey, man, you know what he knows how to boil. He does. And, you know, he does.

I appreciate the blunt. Yeah, it was very cool. Oh, I'm so smooth. I'll send you a case. Oh, man, I love that. Really? Yeah, I'll have to be the doughnut. I'll take this. Those are cool, no. Yeah, this is my friend Boris makes those.

He like this very personally made with a beautiful, um, all those cost six dollars. So I appreciate it if you would return them for a deposit. Okay, no problem. Like I used to do the bottles back in the day. Very cool, man. I appreciate it. There was so much fun. Yeah. Yeah, anytime man. All right. Anytime.

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