Club Random with Bill Maher - Kid Rock | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

Bill Maher and Kid Rock randomly riff on Kid Rock’s favorite part of Real Time, Bill’s take on Kid Rock’s song and the Let’s Go Brandon chant, how Kid Rock thinks we need to get back to being kind to each other, which musicians are funny, how Bill loves the song Low Life, how Kid Rock reminds Bill of his dog Chico, the very special gift Kid Rock gives Bill for Club Random, how Bill likes that Kid lives without apology, Bill explains ghosting, why it’s important to NOT discuss Trump, and great music that gets made when Detroit merges with the South.

I must say, you probably think I am not the fan of your records that I am. You know, because... That's a bit of a surprise. Well, when you became a singer... Wait, back up, back up. Do you remember? Do you realize that was... My first TV show was politically incorrect, that I ever did.

What? That was the first, but I ever did. I mean, what? That was the first TV show I ever did. Someone talked to you on to have me early in my career. So, if you recall, it was either that night or night after. Late nineties have to be late nineties. Late nineties? Yeah, what was your first album? My first successful, well, 1989, but my first successful album,

when I'm talking about was 1998, double without a cause. Oh, I have that. It was right. Double without a cause. I have that. It was right around that point. Who was either that night or night after? We ended up going to this fucking thing to see Bill Clinton. We had dinner with Gregory Peck. Went out to my limo. We smoked a fucking joint.

Who's we? Me and you. He fucking stoner. Really? Yeah. We did. Went out to my limo. We smoked a joint. We came back and we had this little dinner with this private thing. Bill Clinton was doing a thing because they printed a picture, me and Rolling Stone with them.

And it was a little uproar because it didn't get cleared by the White House. I was like doing something like this. And I would be so disappointed if you weren't. I'm surprised you wasn't this. That was last night. It's it, boy, the memory is a funny thing, is it not? I'm surprised you watched it this. That was last night. It's it, boy, the memory is a funny thing, is it not? The way, like, some things that are so trivial stick in your mind. And then, like, you think I'd remember Bill Clinton

can trust me, rock and roll is not right. Did you say Gregory Pact? Gregory Pact was a dinner with us. Gregory Pact? Yes. Some other hippie singer girl. Because weck was a dinner with us. Gregory Peck? Yes. Some other hippie singer girl because we were in a little private room. Gregory Peck. Yeah. With us. Yep. And did the three of us ever go out again after that? No. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. You said. I don't know. I know. Well, yeah, I just, I have. Well, yeah, I just, like your last record is fantastic.

Thank you. And you really know how to like make a record. I feel like, but it's writing a record as the hard part. I'll bet. Getting to the studio is just, you know, what you do after so many years, you find to your craft, you put in the time and work, but writing is, you know, what you do after so many years, you find junior craft, you put in the time and work, but writing is, you know, sometimes it comes and tell you,

you know, you write jokes, you write your writer. Imagine you have a team of people that help a little. Of course. Now, not so much with stand up, but yes, the show. Yes, of course, I've, you know, they're brilliant. I, I, I love them. By the way, I'm a big fan of your show. Really?

Religiously watching. Okay. Well, see, you know where my politics lie, obviously, and I know where yours lie, but I don't, and I think, you know, and I found you to be pretty rationed on a lot of things, you know, but, but more importantly is, is, well, my, I always like to get both sides,

at least it's pretty hard in this day and age because it's all opinions. I at least like to get some people who look like they have a conviction. I, you know, things have changed so much on the left in the last five to seven years. That people have said things I'm more, say to me often, you know, you're more conservative.

I'm not more conservative. They're just crazier on the far left. And I am a comedian. I am not going to pull any punches on who's acting ridiculous. When they act ridiculous, I call them on it and they do a lot. And that's probably why you enjoy my show.

No, no, I enjoyed it even when I couldn't stand you. I was like, this motherfucker, fucking beat me, sit out of fucking my guy Trump and that. And I'm like, but I still want to get both sides. And I do think it's funny guy. I love, you know, the end, you know, when you go to. Yes. Yeah, I knew rules.

Yes. You know, it's always great to point it. Even if I don't like it, I'm like, well, that's like anybody's, that's their truth. To speak with their truth is. Even if I disagree with it, that's all right. Right, no, I've heard you say that in your lyrics, I must tell you, I do love bad reputation.

I guess one of my favorites on there. I mean, the whole album. Oh, the whole album, that's one of my favorites. Except, where the people? Yes. The part where you're chanting, let's go Brandon. I'm not chanting that. Okay, but it's on your record, and I feel like it's,

I feel that really undercuts and belies your message, which I think crosses with my message a lot, that we have to talk to, I'm always saying this, I'm like, we have to talk to each other. We can't go into these bubbles. Yes. Even if you disagree with somebody. Let me tell you how optimistic I've been feeling this week.

I don't know if you know this about me. I have rarely do interviews these days. I know, and I appreciate it more than I could fucking tell you. And I did Tucker Carlson, obviously. That's all I did for this album. I fuck with some people on social media, stir the pot. I did his show, and this is my most successful tour. Attendance, grosses, merch.

Really? To date, yes. That's amazing. Which people, you know, were very scared, you know, my book and agency, here's some people will tell you, you know, like, those politics men, they're gonna fuck you up your business. I'm like, I don't give a shit, man.

I've saved my money. I'm like, I can speak openly, you know, blah, blah, blah. But that's your brand. So, so less, so I said, at the beginning of this, I did this little thing for the devil's tool, you know, blah, blah, blah, but that's your brand. So last, so I said at the beginning of this, I did this little thing for the doubles tool, social media where I taped something about the El Mator, and I said, I don't know how I'm polarizing. I'm speaking my fucking mind,

and I know I speak for a lot of people who can't, who are scared to lose their jobs, they're setting the other, blah, blah, blah, you know all that. And I said, but after this, I said, you know, one of my, one of the people I look up to so much in life, one of my musical heroes, friends Reverend Ron from Rundy MC told me one time he said, you know what you do best, you bring people together. And I said, after this tour, I want to get back to that because this country needs it. And it just so happens. The last two shows are this weekend coming up here in Nevada. And last night I go to dinner with Randy Gerber, Cindy Crawl from

old friends. And my friends sent me these links to TMZ this morning. I'm like, oh, shit, I'm on TMZ And last night I go to dinner with Randy Gerber, Cindy Crawl from Old Friends. And my friends send me these links to TMZ this morning. I'm like, oh shit, I'm on TMZ again. Who the fuck did I piss off now? Who's panties that I get in a bunch? And it was actually a nice piece. It said, you know, Cindy is a registered Democrat. Randy's independent, you know,

their best friends are George Clooney and Molly, you know where they lie. We're all friends. And it just basically said like, hey, you know, their best friends are George Clooney and Molly, you know, where they lie. We're all friends. And it just basically said like, hey, you can all be friends. It's still different. I'm like, and then I'm coming here. I'm going, we need to get back to this point. Well, of course, here's the backstory to that.

TMZ is run by Harvey Levin. Become such a good friend of mine. He's such a great guy. And that show has never mean really to celebrity. They love celebrities. They follow them. I don't think like more than negative than positive. No, no, no.

If you don't play the game with them, we know that a lot of people are better. No, no, no. Maybe that's how they used to be. That's not what that show is now. It's not. It's very positive. But Harvey and I agree completely on almost everything political and this message that I have been...

He shows my shit all the time because he wants people to see, you know, this message. So Fox News Bible. Yes, but this message particularly, he and I would agree on, which is the thing we're saying here now, we have to talk to each other, we can be friends.

And you can know somebody is a Trump or whatever, I keep saying it. You can hate him. You can hate him. You can hate everybody who likes him. Like I will never understand why you like this whiny little bitch. You know, you're such a real man

and he's such a little bitch. He's always good. When you're bashed him, that's what I say. I go, I can't believe I'm watching this whiny little bitch. I know. I was jumping to the TV and fucking smack when I'm Bill Marmer, and fucking, because you know, you get to walk that fine line

as a comedian, like John Stewart, so many people where you get to interject your politics into the comedy, which is, you know, a very blurred line, which I love, which is fun. I think everybody should be able to do it any level. Sandy fucking words you want. And I purge you, say it, and I agree and I've been saying it Fe as fucking context matters.

You have a record. I don't know what one is on, but it's called I'm a low life. Right? That's keeping on brand, Bill. Very funny. See, I have to say, like there's not a lot of musicians who wear the record is, I mean, there's people who are funny, but that's their thing. Weirdo, yeah, I can pick

it's funny, but it's not, you know, listening for the music. But like, the people who are like really funny and the music is good, I mean, Eminem, Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh, yeah. It's funny and the music is good. I mean, I'm kind of stumped to keep going, that list going. It's hard. I bet we could keep going on it. Like, name some more people who like are actually funny.

You know, who's really funny and who's music when she interjects it is pretty dang good as LaWanda Page. Who's that? Sanford Son. Mystic your face, and some don't make a reala cookie. Remember her? Lewanda Paid. And Esther. Sanford Sun. What is that?

A lot of rappers scratch her like two-life crew they use her shit and that's different than actually writing it. It is. But it was the opposite spectrum. Like she's a comedian. You also did a little bit of music and the music's not bad when she starts doing her comedy over. Oh, what's the guy just, pig, pig, pig, man, uh, God, I just, I'm gonna find it. It was one of the first rap tunes, but he was a comedian that did.

That song is funny, the low life one about, same songwriter with me, by the way, same guy John Eddie that wrote those with me. Is that the one we are like, the landlord came for the rent? Yeah, the rent is due. I spent it all on a kiss tattoo. I take stoppers out to breakfast.

You can add that to my checklist. I'm a low life. You're right. There's something in a fucking your wife or. Going out with your wife. It's like anyone who doesn't laugh at that is an asshole. That's the problem, right? There's too many like stick up there. I mean, that's

just right. I mean, look, I'm not going to lie. Like sometimes you remind me of my dog Chico because you just like, like, love Chico. I do love Chico, but Chico will bark at nothing. Like, he will walk into the driveway. Like, I understand a dog barking when there is something to bark at, but he'll just walk out there and be like, rough, rough. Like, anybody's starting some shit up. You're gonna be sorry, because I'm Chico and I'm here. And I feel like you're a record start like that.

I'm gonna do what I want and don't anybody tell me what not to do and fuck you and kiss my ass. I'm like, who's attacking you, Bob? Unfortunately, it's crossed over in real life a few times, which I've really tried to get beyond that at 51 years old. That's a funny song. Yeah, I agree. That's great.

You know my fans love it. The 50 songs. Oh, the 50 songs is funny. That also because it, you know, it just shows that you can be self-deprecating. Absolutely. You admit you're like I'm going bald. Yeah, and I shit my pants. And you're maybe, you know, and the strippers used to kiss me and now it's my turn.

That's one of my plans. I mean, take it from a comedian. Like to say, it's not true, but some of the best comments are true. Well, I mean, but you got to own, you got to own your your age, you can't, you're not a very smart thing to do. Where funny story when I first realized that was old. strippers on the bus toys are this is well, it's a some of my grand I used to. Yeah, right. You have a granddaughter.

I just had a grandson. I got two grandkids now. Oh my God. What did they think of you? Well, seven years old, old enough where she's been to some shows and real. She kind of wants to be famous which I'm like slow down, honey. We're gonna be rich.

I've been saying for years, tell me if you agree with any of this. I think the biggest disease on the face in this earth that our current time is fame. Well, you are not the first person to posit that opinion. Yes, I mean, fame can be the worst drug. When you see people on like who were celebrities or they were formal, you know, like they went down

the... Aquaman, or was it? Aquaman. Well, Aquaman is a little different. Aquaman was only ever famous for having eight children at once. Those pictures of her are beyond. Anyway, but like, I'm talking about somebody who was a celebrity, but now the calls aren't coming in, so they go on some sort of like reality.

Yeah, it's right. Instead of just retiring and saying, okay, I was honest, it come for five years, it was good. It's not happening. No, I'll eat bugs. Yeah. Anything to stay in front of the camera. I think that's what you're talking about. Well, it's just, well, I also, I see what's going on with our kids and this, that, and the other. Oh. And you see, you know, what examples are being set out there

in social media? I mean, I can't imagine navigating that as a kid. And everybody wants, well, not everybody. There's a big percentage of kids, people that want some notoriety fame. There would be somebody, of course. I did too. But now there's ways to go about it.

Like, we'll just cut your dick off. Like, you know, you get a fucking, hey, look at me, I'm different. You'd like my latest stand-up special. There's a lot of stuff in there on this theme. Really? Yeah, you check it out. Oh, by the way, I got you a gift.

Well, I think you're good with this. Like gift. I see you already got some good ones. I didn't hold on. I like gifts. Oh, oh, oh my God, I love it. My pillow. It's gotta bite me on camera, you know what?

That is so awesome. That the best. Oh my God. To his credits, when they fucking FBI went after him, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna buy some of his guys shit. You know what, I have Clinton. I see Trump.

Trump. Clinton. I got that one. I don't know how I got. I got Bob Ross one. I don't know how I got. I got a Bob Ross too. I don't know how I got either one of them, but that's true of so many things in this room. I just don't, I can't, but-

I just moved one of my homes and finding shit at a level of excess that's kind of embarrassing. What? I've just having so much shit. But finding cool shit too that you never- Oh. That you forgot that you might have had or gifts at someone, I have the Chicago coin box

by the way, right? I have that Chicago coin box. You know, you don't have that hooked up correctly. That goes with a jukebox. You put a jukebox under it and you string them together so when you put a quarter in the jukebox, the curve in open, yes, the band starts playing. I collect it all.

I can make the band play, but it's not hooked up to a jukebox, the curtain opens. Yes, the band starts playing. I collect all the stuff. I can make the band play, but it's not hooked up to a jukebox. Right, that's what it was made for for jukebox. So you mean you have too many things? That's just level of access. You know, I was like, well, bring my motorcycles down. And I was like, I probably got you know, six or seven motor, so I was like, oh, you have 17.

You know, the level of clothes that I gave with shoes, and you know, I donate them, I give them to neighbors, things like this, or whatever, and a lot of it stuff people give you, it was a point. I was making some great gifts people give you. Absolutely. In two years, you've been like,

who gave me the Mypilogue? Oh, no. I'll remember. No, no, no. I'll remember that forever. That's an amazing piece. I've always wanted a crack addict up here. But successful crack addict.

I'm very successful crack addict. By the way, those fucking sheets are not, I'm a fucking stickler on towels, good batting. Shit like that and I was like, I went to FBI radio and I'm like, I'm gonna wear something shit. Slippers are pretty decent, but the sheets are not bad. And I'm kind of a fucking spoiled little,

fucking when it comes to like good sheets and towels. Well, I can't get to sleep, I always blame the pillow. And then the next day when I get to sleep, it's like, oh, what happened to the pillow problem? So I don't think it's the pillow. But you know what, I'm not going to quibble about Trump. No, we could do the whole hour of Trump. It's too late. You don't like him, I do.

It's moving. Exactly. By the way, I don't like Trump. It's too big. It's too big. You don't like him. I do. It's moving. Exactly. By the way, I don't like Trump. I've been saying, I fucking love Donald Trump. Oh. That's funny because I've been saying on the show that what you hear a lot from people who

are Trumpers. I don't like him. I like him. That's the biggest misconception right is that I like him. But yeah, I agree. I, but it's also kind of funny too, when you hear these arguments and you could make a million of them and I could too and we could do the whole show on that.

But it's like, what a fun one. I thought of on the way over here. You know, let me finish this. One I thought on the way over here was like, okay, you want me to be accepted accepting, like, and whatever of like a dude dressing up, like a girl wanting to use the girl's bathroom, cutting his dick off,

this had any other, but you got a problem, which is not proven to be true, but you got a problem with a guy who might have pissed on a hooker in Russia. Right. I'm like, come on. Well, I mean, Bob, come on, that's anecdotal. But look, I don't wanna, again, we could talk about this.

You don't want to, I don't want to. So let's try to, since we have no descending votes on this issue, agree that what heals America more than anything is two people who have the acumen to figure out what they are not going to convince the other of or agree on and so leave it alone Right absolutely that's the whole thing. I would say amen Are you religious I will release us. Oh, I mean you do mention God and you said not I mean you have a album should not Relationship God I believe you right? A little candle last night for a loretta Lynn.

Oh. A dear friend who just passed. We're one of four married. A dear friend. We got married. And a mock wedding. I thought that was Pam Anderson. We got married four times.

Because I've always said, I think you will agree. Get married as a blast. I don't, have you ever been married? No. Right. Okay. Getting married is a fucking ball. I did, it was so fun, I did it four times.

South of France, Beverly Hills, and that's being married, sucks. Yeah. Well, see, you gotta give me a little props on that. That I was able to, but what I always loved about you, I must say, even when I didn't like your politics, was that you acted like every guy, like every average guy, if they became a rock star with act,

without apology, you know, and also without like, so many times you see celebrities do these. What I think is like really self-sabotaging kind of behavior where like, wow, you're young and every girl wants you and you get married. You know, it's just dumb. And you like- I didn't have the problem.

No, you were like, no. And if I do get married, I'm gonna marry the girl that every guy wants to fuck more than anybody else. I want to drive the Ferris wheel, man. Everybody wants to ride the Ferris wheel. But were you really in love with her when you were? Yeah, really. Yep, too. It was real.

Oh yeah, I'm from fucking Romeo, Michigan. Sure, I got to, you know, at that point, I'd seen a little more of the world, you know, and it wasn't like I was shelter. It was raised very middle up or class, like, you know, great family, this, that, and the other. So it wasn't like I was, you know, some sheltered kid that's said and the other, but, you't like I was, you know, some sheltered kid this and the other. But, you know, I went into it.

How I was raised, my parents are still together after 50 some years' marriage, like, you know, I was, I was, but you, but, you know, if we're not gonna talk about Trump, we're not gonna talk about that. But you have that spam rabbit hole either. And no, I'm not saying that. But, but you have that song that,

that like, I thought you left home when you were 15 or something. Oh, I'm not saying that. But you have that song that like, I thought you left home when you were 15 or something. Oh, I did. And then. I did. See, you know what, you know what, the only place I could go and stay was with my friends

in the hood. I couldn't go stay with my middle class friends. They're like, no, I'm taking you home to your parents. My friends in the hood were like, you can crash here. For such a bad ass, so many of your songs are actually very romantic and sentimental. I mean, the really heart-tugging, that one, that one where the check with the jeans and the rosary. Blue jeans and rosary, my guitar player wrote that Martin. That is a very requested a lot by the

females. I'm sure it is. You know, as I'm sure the share role crow ones are, you know. And there's another person. I wrote that. Which one? Picture. I wrote collide too. Well, with my guitar player,

I wrote collide by a real picture. That was one of the few songs I wrote by my, you know, a lot of times, I'm not somebody who likes to be alone and right. I do, but I like to get together and finish with somebody. I'm a people person. I like people around. It's always better to have a partner.

Yeah, it just gets lonely. Lend it in my car and do you need somebody who can say to you, I think we can do better there. But I must say you have a way of evoking, like, a nostalgia for, for like when life was... Those are my favorite songs. I made two. I mean, you know, like little things, you know, the Eagles were so great at it. One of the best.

Well, you know what? It's funny you mentioned the Eagles because like... I think if you was... I know you're from Detroit, but then you like have this big giant boner for the South. Huge. Huge boner bill. It's a tremendous boner.

It's huge. I love the South. But if we're not talking about the Midwest. So, but like, again, not to keep harping on this theme, but that's when we're best, when the two parts of the country who you wouldn't think get along, get along. And what other giant band, one of the greatest of all time, is also a product of Detroit and the South. Well, they all are.

No. Well, everybody came to this. Specifically. Rock, baroque band? The Eagles. Glenn Fry is from Detroit. Glenn Fry went to school with Bob Seager. Okay, right.

Prish Andrews, my former manager. He's from Detroit. Yes. And Don and Don Henley. Don Henley, some Texas. It's Texas. Yeah. That combination is what I'm saying.

Oh, absolutely. It works. It works, you know. But you know, all that happened from Chicago to Detroit was when, you know, the industrial revolution, when, you know, the plants and reform did all that. Everybody came from the south and they some stopped in Chicago. That's where you got the bl-birth, you know, the real blues scene going on. And then the rest came to Detroit, you know, which we got Motown, all that great John Lee Hooker, Soul Music, all that stuff. It was all Southern. Oh, it's Roots, which is all you really want to go back and you start getting into country. It's Celtic. It's this, blah, blah, blah. You could trace everything back to as far as Celtic. Yeah. What? I did it. Celtic hip-hop song. That's unbad reputed. Celtic. Really? Mar. Mar is a very hard

to do it. Jewish. By the way, I lit the candle last night. My very high. To a Jewish. By the way, I lit the candle last night. My friend of say it was Jewish. He says he's gonna light one for his dad for Yom Kippur. Oh yeah. I don't know shit about that, but I was like, this sounds like a cool thing. So I lit one cello prayer. I felt good.

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you know that I will be performing at the Hulu Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York, November 12. Go to New York ComedyFestival.com for tickets. That's nycomedyfestival.com for tickets. Let me, let me, let me see. Yeah, take a head on that one, go. Is this like wheelchair weed? It's wheelchair.

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so I'm not the kind who wants to pile on and make it worse, but Oscar Pistorius, okay, so, yeah. So he could be a track star. Yeah, it'll be just doesn't want he likes weed member Oscar for story Did he have some trouble and I have for some trouble? He shot his girlfriend in the bathroom. How's the story? How's he doing? You know, that's a good question. Where are they now? I don't know, but that was brutal. Yeah, that was, I mean. There's a lot of brutal shit, man, God. Well, I was, I have Trace Atkins on my show. Love Trace, old friend.

He's sang on some of my records with me. Really? Yeah. He did a really low vocal on, love him. Rock bottom blues. The record I did with Rick Rubin years ago. You can hardly hear him, but he's the guy going,

oh, born free. No, no, yeah, that album, the song's on that album. That's a great album. He's so low in there, oh, here it's, Oh, da, da, da, da. But again, you're so chico, like, I'm born free, it's like, yeah, that's we know. Fuck yeah.

We know what I love to do, right? He's like, I know the people that, no one likes Kid Rock, I think we can get a grant. Either love me, you fucking hate him. People like Dave Grohl. Ah, Dave! You know, I don't mind on the middle. So what I do, I brought my hat just to piss people off.

Like, they don't like me. Like, you know, just sit here with my fucking kid rock head on. You're already good rock. Right, but people that don't. Talk about a hat on a hat. I mean, I just like to fuck with people that don't like me. I'd wear this hat. Try it on.

Well, not now, but I mean, we're inside, but I would wear this. To like, anywhere. To a pizza. To a pizza mat. To a pizza mat. You know what? We wear it to a pizza mat.

Why? I just think it'd be great. I just think I went to a pizza mat. No, I wouldn't. Which PETA event. Why? I just think it'd be great. I used to go, I went to a PETA event which I don't agree with. I always friends with Dan Matthews. I certainly wouldn't wear it to a PETA event. And actually there's a PETA event coming up and I won't be wearing this.

That would just be unnecessarily provocative. I can give you an organization that I adore. I can give you my full length, man, to go with it. And, you know, let's not get on that subject either. The fact that I can. I can give you my full length, man, to go with it. And, you know, let's second on that subject either. The fact that I can forgive you- Try to start your engine, man. The fact that I can forgive you about murdering animals in the woods, what a great hobby.

We eat on its conservation. Is it way more than the Trump thing? I can give you some insight on that about conservation and how. I've heard it all. Okay. You know, some of it is just, you're right. There's always a lot of other truth on the other side that doesn't get heard in our bubbles,

but in general, it's also, for whatever reason, like I've never had kids, I know, like kids, I love animals, so emotionally, I'll admit that. I don't like kids, you have to. I forget. for an asshole. Well, there's some things you might know would it be so honest about. And I really hate babies. I mean, kids I can sort of deal with a little for a few minutes.

But people raise their kids wrong. I mean, I would be a very bad parent right now because I would fight. We would be very aligned on this, I think, on a lot of this. I would be a very bad parent because there would be doing things in the school that I didn't think was appropriate. Just not from either side or point of view, just like the subject itself, they're five. Can we just do blocks and the sky is blue before we get to drag queens? You know, it's like... Bill.

There's levels of sophistication these that are just... Bill, Bill, welcome to the Republican Party. You know, I... First of all, you must not watch my show because... I watch the show every week. I have to go from the Iranian League this week

that I thought was spotted on about the head dress. Okay. But I talk about... I've been talking about this stuff for years. This, I am not, you have to welcome me. And by the way, I don't want to be in the Republican party. Come on, oh, I don't. I can buy you some calls.

Okay, that's a difference. Oh, I know the invite is there. I don't want to pick another kid for your team. Hmm. Okay. And I can tell you why, but again, let's not get to the places where let's go. You know, I can't. For you know, I can't have some fun with the bill.

I can't, we can have some joy. I'm fighting with somebody who is such a good entertainer. I mean, this world is, yes, full of right and wrong and blah, blah, blah. At the end of the day, you know, if you're not religious, which I'm not, it's all about killing time until you die. Be as good a person as you can.

I agree. Kill time until you die. I agree. So killing time involves all the things that are just fun. Golf. I hate golf. No, but it kills time. Like, if I died, I would really miss my music collection.

Yeah. I don't think you're the only one in that space. Yeah, I mean, that probably like top five family feud. Anybody who's entertained me, you know, and a song, I mean, songs are unbelievable because unlike comedy, which is very perishable, they're just good forever. You know, picture is good forever. I have a comedy groupie.

I'm a fucking comedy groupie. I hang out at Zany's in Nashville. I'm like backstage. You live in Nashville? Yeah. Oh, that's a funny song where you shit on Nashville. Oh yeah. Why didn't write that? Kid Ward got their wrote that. I did write something to it, but he kind of had that line and everyone's scared in Nashville. It's a line out the door of underrated tours and the the bouncer just let them all out. What a great way to start a song. That is, who's that? Who wrote that?

It's a kid named War God there. He does a singing Nashville called Whiskey Jam, which is hugely popular all the big stars. Why did I think you live in Alabama? I have a farm in Alabama. I remember seeing an art, you know, a spread on you in some, you know, funny, baloney magazine or something about your life and, you know, probably. I'm in Alabama. I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in

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Really? It's I really the chair. I gotta have this house. It's awesome. My goodness, what is it? That's $12 million, let's buy it. That's what I mean. You don't like put on airs.

You know, you act like the guy, every guy dreams of having what is available to a rock star. And then you're like, well, yeah, if you're going to, if I'm going to be given these privileges, I'm going to use them. If you're going to be a bear'm going to be given these privileges, I'm going to use them. If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. Yeah.

I agree. Yeah. You know, the whole key that I'm most proud of there is I don't feel, you know, there's always sometimes when someone's hurt, maybe you did something wrong, but I've never mistreated people. You get away with murder if you just fucking nice about it.

You know, when you're younger and you're in this fucking crazy world of drugs and booze, I mean, and all this stuff, you're like, just don't be a fucking dickhead. I mean, you, well, you are a dickhead, but when you are, I applaud you because you're, you're trolling people who deserve to be trolled. You are twisting the tail of the over-sensitive. You're saying, yes, I do that well. And I do do that. And that's when I love you the most. It's like, even if I don't agree with your political point of view,

it's like, but you, you, you, over-sensitive assholes who can't take a joke who don't understand, you, you, you, you, nuanced, that whole thing, you've done text, and just like, you know, just laugh at life. How did that generation that came after us become such stick up their ass? Because of timeouts and participation. Yeah, but like, it should be that the older people have the stick up their ass. That's the way it was when I was a kid. And then it reversed. And it's the kids. And when I was a kid. And then it reversed.

And it's the kids. I'm thought about it that way. Well, yes. Who are the woke? Yeah. Well, they're not your age. Your age is Gen Z. I mean, Gen X. That's the last sane generation. I agree. And you notice they never get involved in the generational wars.

Like millennials always go after Mike P. the boomers. Somehow your generation just passes in between. Because what? I don't know. I'm trying to process that. I don't know if I... Well, yeah.

Do you ever hear about Gen X? I don't. I'm not good with numbers. Okay. Gen X is what age is? You. 51. You.

It's you. So 51. You're Gen X. But it usually goes on Taylor or something. Ben Stiller did the Gen X movie in 1994 called Reality Bites. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's Gen X.

They came after the baby boomers, but they weren't the millennials. So they hadn't't become completely crazy. I mean, okay, I got it. And I feel like you, Gen Xers, are more aligned with my boomers because you were alive. Especially as we've gotten older. You were alive before the world went mad and went to the phone. The phone is the portal to all evil. Amen, I agree a thousand percent.

Yeah, no, it's just true. I agree a thousand percent. My life was so good to fuck a fucking camera on a phone. Oh, that's what you have against it. I mean, that's my personal gripe. But, I mean, you have, well, your kids are grown now, right? Yeah, my son's 29. Okay. I mean, you have, well, your kids are grown now, right? Yeah, my son's 29.

Okay, so they're not like teenagers who are gonna be corrupted by the phone, but many. Oh, I have nieces. Nieces, they're 14. 14 and 12? Right. Well, I mean, just in every possible way way it made people stupider, greedier, faker, it's great for fakes, it makes you a fucking fake. Yeah.

Phone makes you a fucking fake. You can fake things, ghosting people. You know, like, they just, these kids, they don't want to- Fucking trolls. What? They're trolls. They call them trolls. People who say they're ghosting people. They call them trolls on the internet. They're just trolling people.

No, I mean in your personal life, when people ghost you. What's that mean? It means... Well, grandpa... This might be a generation. Please explain a path of that. You're saying a path of that.

Ghosting is when somebody just doesn't respond... It's cool. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up. Here's the name of the pop-up.

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their information, I guess, if you're a past, but yeah, no explanation, just, well, that kind of stuff I feel like is psychologically very damaging to... I can't imagine social psychologically very damaging to, I can't imagine social media shit with kids. It's trying to navigate those wires and maybe I'm dissolved. Like I don't like Elvis shaking his hips. You know, sometimes when I say shit,

I'm like, am I the guy now? You know, I don't feel like it. That is a very interesting question because it is a combination you can't deny. Yes, there is some level of us being unable to quite get something that is so native to younger people like social media and computers, which they grew up with and I certainly didn't grow up with a computer. I didn't either. But there's also objectively, I mean, there's my truth and your truth.

There's also the truth. mean, there's, you know, my truth and your truth is also the truth. You know, and sometimes... No, nothing else. Yeah. And it's just true that people used to read more. What a great name for a rapper, the truth. Is Nippin' Done? I don't know any. There's no rapper named the truth. Not that I know of. Wow.

Hey, before this runs, go to goDaddy.com. I get the truth.com. Sure, somebody has that. Somebody's got that. I would bet money on that. Well, what's, was in Trump's social media? What is it called?

Truth social. Oh, truth social. Well, that's, God, no, who came up with the best one he should have called it? It was a celebrity. I thought it was a left-wing person. But somebody said you should have called it trumpet.

So that was pretty creative. Much better. Because truth social, well, let's not get off on Trump. See, it's like a relationship, like a, you know, a marriage. Like you wouldn't... Two things, you know a marriage like you wouldn't do things you know nothing about Educate me bill

Well, I certainly know about relationships. I've had many relationships That's how I got this kid rock hat no But in a relationship, you learned early on, well, maybe not early on, because people are on their best behavior early on, but at a certain point, you learn what other people's buttons are, right?

What you're not gonna agree on, you know, what not to bring up unless you wanna have a fucking fight? Or not have sex. Right. You say tomato, I say fuck off. Right. Right.

I agree with you. But not everybody is a rock star who, if the person who is embargoing their sex, does that? They can't go somewhere else like you could. So, yes, yes they can. Girls can always go somewhere else. Girls can, not guys. If I wasn't kid rock, I couldn't. I mean, for the love of God, it looked like Brad Armpit.

Well, I'm glad you've argued your way right around to my point. That's what I'm saying is that you, if you're being embargoed, can do something about it. And also turns you into a big giant asshole. What does? The next best thing. My way or the highway. You know, that type of thing turns you into a giant asshole. Absolutely. Right. Why are you talking for a friend? Asking for a friend is that correct or not? Do you know a guy who did that? Oh wow.

I think we've all been that person that certain times in our life. And some of us can step back and be like, yeah, I don't want to be that person. Yeah, but. And other people don't know it's going on until somebody fucking punches them in the face. And sometimes it's, hey,

you're being a fucking asshole. Look, in a relationship. I also with the opposite sex. I when I was like, you know, earlier and very much earlier in life, you know, when I was not doing very well and didn't know very much about women or how to get them or keep them or please them, you know, stuff like that little things, you know, I remember like, if I broke up with a girlfriend or I was contemplating because I really, really wasn't someone who was well suited for me, the idea in my head was like ever have another girlfriend, which is a terrible thought. So it's like maybe not as man-built. You're not as man. Right. And, you know, I mean,

I wonder if you'd still be this honest if you hadn't been successful. No, it would be, I'd probably put a bullet pass my tongue. But, you know, but lots of people I think, I certainly know that feeling. Like when you're in a relationship and it's like, maybe it's better because you have to learn to just accept things about the other person.

You can't walk out, because that's not a good alternative. Or you know, you just legitimately love them and want to. But there's no two people I think who are ever married or very few who don't have things about each other that they have lost. Just learn to go, you know what? It's everything in life, isn't it? Probably, you mean accepting like that?

Accepting there's sort of things like, I start with death. I'm like, I will never get into a battle or a fight that I can't win. I cannot win that fight. So I'm gonna just try to do it. It's gracefully, it's cool, it's laid back as I can. I start there and then I just keep going down.

Well, not going down. Rising above. Rising. There's stone and my memory's been, I shot rock and roll's not been kind to it. This is like, to me, you know, I always wonder about the ears. No, because we use those in ears now, they call them.

They're like, you're hearing is fine. Yeah. But so many years. I've lost a tiny bit of the top, but yeah. Wow. Overall. So many years of like playing, wow, I mean, when you got to a concert, it's loud.

It's always loud. We don't hear that. You don't hear that because of what's in your ear. Yeah, they're like, there's like many headphones, really high-tech ones. And they've had those since you started? No. So I did, I did the early years with the big monitors and shit.

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My parents were like, you know, he was, there's a picture in my house of Jesus and Bob Sieger and Henry Ford basically. Henry Ford? Amidowns Ford guy. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Henry Ford is one of those guys like Columbus and... I know where you're gonna go with this.

Well, I'm just saying I have made a lot of comedy and it's something the woke don't like about me, making the point that we can't judge people in the past by the standards of the present. All right. I loved you a bit on that when you went. Oh good. You took it all back.

Oh, you're right. I was just recently. Yes. Oh, I'm glad you did see that. And you know what? They came after me so bad for being a racist. All I did was give the facts about slavery. I know. That it was not something that Americans invented in 16. When you traced it back to the

Irish, you kept going. Everybody did it. It was a human thing. It's a human thing. Unfortunately, humans are schmucks. And it's like, if I can make one person gets an earring, everyone gets an earring. But I know that's a big, I mean, I hear that in your records and I'm, that is a big bug of bear with you. And I guess we have that somewhat in common is that I don't think people understand that if you're not a racist, and again, there's been such mission creep on the word racist, which, you know, to me always meant somebody who doesn't like black people and doesn't want them to have equality.

Well, I don't think that's us. Of course, there's more complications than that to racism in America, but just that word, you know, fuck racism. I don't think people understand that when you're not a racist to be called that, is it giant insults? No. I don't get fuck. I think, call me whatever the fuck they want.

I just fuck you. Right. That's your brand. That's like your Mac and Rose. You can't be serious. I'm playing Mac tomorrow in Pickleball. Yours is fuck you. Yeah.

For anyone even attacks you, just like Jiko. Fuck you. Ah! Exactly. And yet your life must be so good. I got the greatest bubble on earth. What do you mean? Well, like Tucker was actually saying,

he's like, you created your own world here. What's your own world? That's just my home space, is my friends. Oh, right. Like in our course. But I'm the one that's the fucking weird punk rock kid that I'm not into. It's like I'm anti what everybody loves in my business. I'm the fucking outcast. Absolutely. You were. Yes. Like it's not I'm not trying. Oh no no. But you'd be you'd be absolutely shocked in my fans like there and I'll just give you a quick example. We did these cruises for 10 years.

It was a big deal. And these two gay kids infiltrated the cruise. You can Google this. People listening can Google this. And there's an article on it. A cruise? Yeah, it's a ten of them. They pay millions of dollars

to take all your friends and favorite bands, and have a ball. The only people that are scared of them, because we have a comedian every year's comedians, because they think their career's over if they go on a cruise. I go, yeah, it's not that type of cruise. It's not the Dirty Cruise.

Right. But whatever. It's like, oh, what the fuck was the time? I had to tell you. I knew it was contagious. A comedian who did his show on a cruise, and it was like for older people, and it was way too dirty.

I forget what he said, but it like he offended everybody and they helicopter him How the helicopter him off the ship? That's a bad day as a comedian. They have jails on the ship. They have holding cells. Yeah, a brink Well, you have to what if someone you know what you know, so these gay kids. I'm sorry these gay kids, I'm sorry, these gay kids, come on in this cruise, right? And they're coming, they're like, we wanted to go to Trump country and see what it was like. They're gonna write this piece of article for some shit magazine nobody reads.

But there are articles like, fucking like we wanted to go on this cruise and fucking get in Trump land, fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, but the articles like, we had the greatest times of our life. These are the greatest people on earth. These motherfuckers are just hardworking, you can run red necks, whatever. Some of them work for the Pentagon,

some of the principles at schools, some are strippers. Like whatever, like these people just loved to have a good time. They work hard to spend their money. It's fucking American dream. I remember reading some interview with you and you said I'd rather have a stripper than a model and I thought yes. Somebody get me Kid Rocks number. No, but I agreed with what you were saying. Not that we can

stereotype people, but models, you know, a little high-strong usually and... So, string being in high heels? Well, it's not that they're physically beautiful, but it seems to be more like anxiety and, you know, I don't know. I think we call it drama. Yeah, that too. I mean, it's like, it must be... I don't know because Cindy Grover is one of the most elegant, beautiful, kind, fun rock and roll women I've ever met.

But now she's, what, sexy? Okay, people change over, I mean, you want to become that when you're sexy. Yeah, I don't know if she's... You don't look like she's sexy. Okay, I'm sure she does. I'm staying with him in Melbourne right now. Okay, I see her all times the day. She does that look like she's sexy. Okay, calm down. Calm down. You're getting a little half chubby there. No, no, no, no, no.

No, I understand. Okay. It's like my sister. Okay, well established. Fendi Crawford, hot mama. I didn't say that. I'm just saying. Fucking media people see.

I'm just saying. Like, in media people see. I'm just saying that, you know, it must be, when you're that beautiful and people, it's almost freakish, you know how, how. It's tough, trust me. How people... I get it. He's like, stop doing jokes, you're not a comedian. Oh, no, I'm always thinking about me.

You're a very funny song. Is that also a good song? You also, I must say, the best at aboking that kind of time of life that was carefree. I can imagine cell phones nowadays, having fun rock and roll moments. of life that was carefree, you know. I can imagine cell phones nowadays, you know, having fun rock and roll moments, you know, crazy shit happening. Nobody's getting hurt by the way. You know, like, I wouldn't let a girl

on the tour bus if she had a boyfriend. Like, you know, one of those things, like, they're all excited in the moment. Like, my boyfriend said it was cool. I'm like, your boyfriend's here? No. You either leave or tell him to come on the bus. I never wanted to be an ailes fucking sit.

I didn't want to be a fucking douchebag because fucking trust me. If I wasn't fucking who I am, people could steal my girlfriend all day long. You think? No, probably not. Oh, that's a go. I was really hard to break you down on that one.

Well, this last article I read about you, you were living in Alabama, or at least they were on there for the Rolling Stone one. And you're a width of a woman. I remember there was a... We're still together. You're still together. 15 years?

Wow. She likes to lay low and not be part of this bullshit and she's smart for it. Yeah. And that was her decision. Wow. Not married, but together. And that was her decision. Wow. Not married but together. Engaged.

Engaged. Well, I thought that you're gonna have to. Engaged Bill's a thing before. Oh, you would know wouldn't you? So this will be four marriages. Be five. It'll be five. Before we're to the same chick.

They were. What? I just told you a few minutes ago you stole her. Like we're to the same chick. They were. What? I just told you a few minutes ago, you stoner, like I said, I married a half-final time. I married her in the South of France, Beverly Hills Nashville in Detroit. I thought you were referring to four different women. No.

So you like this one. Yeah. I love this one. Oh, well, how does your new wife feel about that? That can't be a good harbinger. Everybody's friends, man. Really? No. What do you does your new wife feel about that? That can't be a good harbinger. Everybody's friends, man. Really? No, what do you mean new wife?

Well, new fiance? New fiance. What do you feel about what? The woman you married four times. She's like, well done. But wouldn't that be something looming over her head? Like, if this guy's married this one. No, she ate that type of chick.

At all. She's into her horses, like if this guy's married this one. No, she ate that type of chick. At all. She's into her horses, chickens, honey, it's beautiful. Like, can cook, like just loves the platonic relationship. Like, that's another funny song you have about the breakup where it's like, and she's like, half-eared and twice as hot. Twice as hot. That was a, that was a true one. like half your age twice as hot. Twice as hot. That was a true one.

That's mean. But since we don't know who the person is. I was very upset at the time, trust me. And since we know. It was very heartbroken. Since we don't know who the person is, it's you know. Everybody knows who the person was.

Us Pam. Oh, I wrote that right after that when I got with this. I hooked up with this supermodel after a beautiful Danish girl. We were an item. Oh. And she's a lovely girl. And I was like, man, you don't go fucking with a songwriter. Well, that can't, yes.

That's true. Some of it writes words for a living. Like, don't get into a battle of wits with a comedian. Well, that adds a whole news. People that write words every day for a living, don't fuck with them. That adds a whole new shade to that. Well, nothing like getting in from the horse's mouth. It's old news, Bill.

Really? Yeah, yeah. In my world. Right. I'm sure you're right. I'm sure I just, because I'm such an intellectual. No, I'm just talking in my world. People enjoy my music, what I do.

That little circle. No, I bet you that was widely known for among lots of Americans. But you know what, I can't be aware of everything. I have a lot, I've got to cover every week. I couldn't cover your revenge song. I love that song, that's funny. And why did it never occur to me?

It's so obvious now. Because I guess I don't think of as Pam Anderson as old. It's not a revenge song in this day. It was called a healing song. It's that way you tell yourself, huh? In this day and age, I do. I'm out of journey. I can't go on my tour.

I have to focus on my mental illness. It's like somebody punches kid in the fucking face. Tell me, is Rich, he's good looking, fucking go. You do not mind twisting that tail, do you? No, not at all. That's shit. Right. Right.

Fuck this. It's not a brainer. A portion. I'm fucking like let the woman fucking choose and deal with God or the people. I'd tell the Republicans a long time, and I'm like, get the fucking God damn hand out of that cookie jar.

Right. This is fucking, I hand out of that cookie jar. Right. Like, this is fucking, I don't agree with it all. And what they, if you want to hear a weird one, so I just said the prime minister's right hand guy from Turkey, come to Miles Nashville. The prime minister of Turkey. Turkey. Or hungry, I'm sorry, hungry, hungry.

I'm thinking of Marvin Erigan. Orbid. Hungry, yes. Orbid's right hand guy, this top political vibes, a kid of miles in Nashville. And we're talking, he wanted to meet me, Tucker did a thing with him in Hungary, some right wing thing or something,

and they were big fans of me. He happened to be in the States, blah, blah, blah. So he come by for lunch ago, because this is fucking weird and I'm into it. I have the, primary is right, a guy from Hungary wants to, I've launched it, I'm like, yep. We were like, sorry, not live watching come on like, no, I'm busy. So he comes up, but he says this about a

Bors, he goes, we just passed law and you know, they're pretty right wing over there. You know the movement. I know you're educated. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. I do. He, um, he said we have more since orbit, you know know that you can get elected every four years there forever And he's been like 12 years now, but he's like since he's coming like the family structure stronger We do allow abortion, but we just passed the law which this is pretty weird both ways he goes Before you have the abortion, the mother must hear the baby's heartbeat and I was like Creepy and great And I was like, creepy and great. You know, my mind went so many different directions, but because I thought, man, that's,

because if your mind's made up, you're gonna do that. That's like tormenting someone. But at the same time, that could be a fucking child walking on God's fucking earth right now. It's a squishy issue. I've always, I personally was supposed to be aborted. So... I had a friend, the same thing. You know, it's not really in form. I'm certainly

pro choice. I'm actually for postnatal abortion. I would go to 10 years old. I'm up... I'm up... I'm up... These kids in line. If you're gonna abort your kid at six months, you should begin to like 10 years old. There are so many kids I would like to when I just see them for a minute. I'd like, these kids in line. Like, if you're gonna board your kid at six months, you should begin to like 10 years old. There are so many kids I would like to, when I just see them for a minute, I'd like to abort them, but no, I believe in abortion up until the third trimester of high school.

So that's my confunding. Are these jokes? I get a concealing feeling. You'll be like this special. You're like, you're planning to try coming up. Yes, you know You'll feel like this special. You're playing Detroit coming up. Yes. You know what?

That's so funny. I'm in Detroit Saturday night. I'm in fucking Laughland, Nevada. Wow. That's amazing. You say you're selling more tickets than ever. Ever. I didn't know you were getting this polarizing thing.

I'm this polarizing figure. And yes, I speak by my end. They know where my politics are. Love Trump blah, blah, blah. I'll start there. And then I put a little of that in my music. I did one interview and everybody was scared and all of a sudden it's because we had a deal worked out

with live nation where it was a lot of money tonight. And I was offensively down to say, no, I'll take the back end. I'll take the tickets. I'll gamble on myself. Good for you. And I've done it my whole career. And thank you, good Lord, I've been blessed and lucky

and all those things, whatever you want to call it. And boom, biggest tour of my career. But I financially, monetarily, you know, with attendance, we've been shattering like Bruce Springson out in John attendance records and places like Houston, and things like which I'm, yeah, it you know no one knows about it outside of my world because I'm not Ed Sheeran making because they will you dollars also because the the liberal media would never report it not the good stuff now well they would never report something

well first they would never hit something, well, first they would never. Kid Rock's winning again. Right. New York Times. Kid Rock wins again. Yeah, that's not, in something you're not going to see. God, I should sell that t-shirt. Which is why I always say, there's one thing, I mean, every critic deserves their opinion. That's why they're a critic.

But there's such a thing as being unprofessional, which is when you don't report, which, you know, what is relevant. A simple investigative journalism, a couple calls. I've seen that. Have you witnessed it more times? I've witnessed it a ton. My long time excellent ratings are also a giant secret.

But it's, you know, let's just not complain about our charmed lives. But I think it's fantastic. You can't complain. You're single. You've never been married. You make fuck tons of money for a long fucking time. You'll be piece of a fucking baseball team. You get nine houses on your fucking property. I certainly don't do that.

Like how are you not winning? I certainly don't do that. Smok a lot of weed. That's a big thing with you. I remember, say, it's funny. You remember the night with Gregory Peck. I remember sitting with you, I think at it's funny, you remember the night with Gregory Peck. I remember sitting with you, I think, at the Oscar party, like a vanity fair Oscar party.

Some... I went to a couple of those. Yes, I think that, okay. And I remember you saying that same thing about, like, I'm winning. And of course, it's a theme that comes up. Charlie Sheen stole it from me. I love that. Oh, well, he didn a theme that comes up. Charlie Sheen stole it from me. I love that.

Well, he didn't do it too well. But I do love that sentiment in your 50 song about, but your mom still thinks it's so cool. I mean, that's very funny, it's self-deprecating. You know, the part that always makes me choke up a little bit, believe it or not, in that funny as song, is I still rock like a chair, middle finger in the air with my granddaughter,

I'm my knee. And Uncle Cracker wrote that. He wrote that line, I was like, Uncle Cracker, I don't remember that guy. What was that your partner? It was my best friend, still is. Still is your best friend. He came up together, he used to buy,

like he had a job and his dad had a gas station, so when I was trying to, you know, do my shit in the hood and fucking blah, blah, blah. And trying to make records, he would like save the money or ask his parents, like, to give us a loan to buy a drum machine or something. And he was just by the cheeseburgers and cigarettes, you know, we're in my studio in my apartment with two young black children with a microphone hanging from the shower. I mean, young black children, with a microphone hanging from the shower. I'm a young black children.

Yeah, my son's got to a brother and sister from his mother, from black man. And so I got some of the herbs mixed, like so at one point when he was very young, we were all together. So how can they say you were racist? And you put TI on one of your songs. Mary J. Blasch is on it son. I love one of my favorites.

Should I get this thing with fucking a read the Franklin several times? Stevie Wonder like fucking people you work with don't think that. I mean they know because they know you. Yes. And that's how you can go out to dinner with fucking George Clooney or people who, you know, now. Sean Penn was my neighbor forever. Those are the greatest conversations on earth. Yeah. Me and him late night, the people who sat there, witnessed us fucking out to cocktails and, you know, fuck, cut it up. Now, I mean, I know Sean very well and looking at you here, it's like I realized, yes, you two are kind of doppelgangers almost, you know?

We had a blast with it. Of course. Yeah, no. I think, well, what do you think's going to happen? I mean, do you think this country is going to have like a civil war? No, no, I think the pendulum always swings like it. I look at like music like when it's positive hip hop

goes into like hardcore hip hop and then it comes back and with so many things in life, like are we in the 70s again, you know, and there's protests and this, blah, blah, blah. I know it was a different thing and you can ever relate the past really to the future. You can try not to repeat it, but you can't line it up, you know, you can't fit a square peg through a round hole.

Right. And so, um, no, because I got some friends, you know, proud boys on down who are like, really rational people and then some are like, let's fucking go. Rod boys. Let's go to fucking war. Wait, they're both in the proud boys, you're saying? What's that? You're saying some of them are rational people and some of them want to go to war

Yeah, which I don't know if it's irrational or not and I know one, but we don't want to go to war of course not Okay, so those Donald Trump's greatest feudie kept us out of war. Uh-oh. Oh shots fired I mean, yeah, we didn't have a war overseas. It's true. I mean, and great. I mean, I'll give him credit for that. Look, I gave him credit big time for moving the... Climate was an all-time thing. For minorities who are working more than that. Okay, moving the sum of that is... Or it was under control.

I'm not the guy. I'm not strong in here. I'm not the guy who's ever going to argue that or be that person. I'm not the guy who's ever going to argue that, or be that person, just- I think it's good to buy and get fucking drug prices negotiated with fucking- Great, see that's good. That's right, let's just not instinctively hate somebody

because of who they are and what team they're on. I was gonna say, I loved it when Trump moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. I thought that was a great thing. That's weird. He was not wrong about NATO. Should pay more of the freight for their demands. Well, they pay people pay their fair share.

But you know, okay. So let's not go into the minutiae of his policy. Well, you don't get to take a jab without let me jab. What was the jab? No, I'm saying, I thought you were gonna go there. Oh. You're like, let me just say one last thing. Fuck that. I mean, it's all out.

You know. I know, right. I know where we're in. Is everything wrong with the human being stuffed into one man? I disagree. I know, you do. He's the greatest friend you can have

and he's the guy you want in the front line. Okay, but that's, your friend is different than how he runs the job. But okay, we're never gonna agree and that's if friend is different than how he runs the job. But okay, we're never going to agree and that's okay because that's what we're if any we if we have any message here on this PSA we're making for it. Let's go brand. It's brought to you by Ken Roggan Billmar and the Mike Lungan. No, no, no, no, let's go Brandon. Hey, just doing a quick commercial in case you don't want to watch commercials.

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People who are on opposite sides of this now just... Polarizing, polarizing. Polarizing red and blue divide. People who are on opposite sides of this now just... Polarizing, political... Polarizing, red and blue divide, have to stop shutting each other out. My editorial this week is about this idea of mingling that we have these statistics that Americans are moving way less than they ever have before. What was this the one you did about?

No, I just went to your boss or this is the new one. No, that was the last one you hit. You're fucking... just went to the boss or this is the one. No, that was actually the hit. You're fucking me. Yeah. Thank you. Which is great. Oh, thank you. Props. Right.

No, this one is coming up on Friday and it's going to be about the idea that, you know, we don't move anymore. And one of the reasons people don't move is because they literally don't feel safe or comfortable moving to a part of the country. Can you imagine wearing a MAGA hat on the subway in New York or wearing a Pro Biden t-shirt and a NASCAR rally? That's a bad place for us to be. Sounds like a great TV show. Yeah, but like I would go to one of your concerts, I would love to go to one of your concerts. You're welcome anytime go to one of your concerts.

You're welcome anytime. I know, and they wouldn't kill me, right? Oh. That's what was funny about you. I assure. What's that positive? Real, yeah, no. You know, the cliche of the greatest fans on earth,

my fans are better than Jimmy Buffett fans. Wow. Is that like some standard that I don't know about Jimmy Buffett? You don't know Jimmy Buffett. What do you live in a fucking cave? No, I say you like music. You like the Eagles? I do. But I mean, Jimmy, I didn't know Jimmy Buffett's fans were known to be the great white because of the parrot head thing.

Yes, they're fucking just loyal, great. Very loyal. Yes. No, I love Jimmy Buffett. You like to ask our fans? Yeah. No, it's good. Well, I mean, let's not even get on how silly it is to watch traffic. Okay. I mean, if you, if you find that, you must love it. You live in fucking LA.

We'll be right back. We'll be right back. But the good thing is you get to do it and pay $7 a fucking gallon. Oh, see, see, that this is what I find. 35% but see sales tax. Oh, see, see, this is what I find. 35% of the sales tax. But see, Bob, this is what I find tedious. What's that? Is when people go right to like, oh, here's something I can get Biden on, because Biden is that bad thing.

So, gas is $7. I'll get that dig in. It's like, you know very well, gas prices have nothing to do with who's president. Mostly, something. I don't know that. Well, some things. What? And lightning, I don't know that. Gas prices go nothing to do with who's president. Mostly, something... I don't know that. Well, some things. What?

Enlighten that. Gas prices go up and down based on other factors in the world, not on who's president. President doesn't run the gas companies. He can change them slightly. President creates policies that would influence the gas companies like any business. Two a degree.

Two a degree. Yes. But why then open? I understand you don't want to drill, like, light me on this a little bit. And like, maybe I can learn some. I don't know, like, you know, because of being energy independent. And I know the news in the late, different things, but you seem to get the stats and you get them pretty correctly.

You have a team that obviously gets those and they're wherever they're digging, they're on. Oh, yeah, they're on. You don't twist them like most people do. I haven't done interviews in years because there's always a gotcha moment. Absolutely. A headline.

Right. For the radio station for this. I look on your drilling point. Let me, let me concede this as I have on my show. It makes absolutely no sense to go under the theory that Saudi Arabian fossil fuels pollute the earth, but American fossil fuels don't. If they just don't pollute us.

If you're not right, I wish we would be all green like tomorrow. But until that happens, I mean like Germany, I was very ambitious about the going green, but they didn't reach the goal. So in other words, they threw the bathwater out with the baby. I don't know. Whatever, forget that analogy. What happened was they had to go back to nuclear because they had a shortfall. I know, I do know this.

I want us to get there, but until we get there, if we're going to use energy, right, why not American energy as opposed to Saudi Arabia? And it just seemed like a very backwards thing. So like, no, I will never like just go with my team. I don't have a team. I don't want one. I never have you. I play Barack Obama's inauguration. You did? Me and Kanye West actually were the first people to meet him as president. We were in a room together. So here's something he mentioned as inauguration.

Oh, Obama used to play a song like he, on big moments like when he accepted the nomination, he played it a few other times. Oh boy. What? Only in America. James Brown? No, no, no.

Brooks and Dunn. Yeah. Well, James Brown has live in America. That's different. You never heard of all you know. But you could show I got it confused as my boy. But what? But you never heard of?

I know kicks Brooks well. You must know what I don't. I don't know what I don't. That's their biggest. Yeah, of course I live in America. No, no, no. Yeah, I mean, right into the last minute, I thought you were gonna sing it.

Now, this is sun coming up over New York City. It's very country. It's, I love this song. He used to play it because only in America, he used to say, only my story is possible in America. Uh, just without politics, all I know is I fucking love it. When Trump was playing the vision, village people, he's out there fucking cutting the rug, fucking good shit. I think he missed his calling. Anyway, I do not know. I do not know. Okay. So, like here, this to me says a lot about how we see race in America or don't see.

Because I love that song. Why people are good, black people are bad. Done. See, the stick up there as people will object to me laughing there. And of course, for you telling that. And my response is always, can't you just trust us? That would be the end of the line. I can give you the headline.

I was gonna be like Bill Maher and Kid Rock's love affair. Like, you know, like we'll try to, hopefully they turn it into some good shit. Maybe when you were a young Bob. No, but okay, so only in America, the lyric is, you know, because I find it like so uplifting, you know, like when you're field down, you could play that song and dance to it. They've opened shows to it. What?

They've opened concerts for me. Oh, really? They were huge themselves for a long time. Oh, they're one of the greatest uppers. Right. Ronnie Don is a singing machine. Oh, they have lots of songs I uppers. Right. Ronnie Donne is a singing machine. Oh, it's a great, they have lots of songs I love. Anyway, but only in America.

And their roads, my favorite. And it's got a great electric guitar. And it's, say, man, it's only barely country, you know, but and their theme is, of course, only in America. We all get a chance. Everybody gets, it's like, boo America. Everybody gets to dance. Who's boo America?

Me? No, you sound like you're explaining. It's like, livin' in America. Oh, no. You keep saying livin' in America. I'm America. No, no, it's like you keep saying living in America. I'm the one who's stone, but you keep saying living in America. This is... It's a difference. Only in America.

Only in America. So, and that's the theme. Like, we all got a chance. Everybody gets to dance. You know, we dream in red, white, and blue. If you're in the mood, it's just perfect. Okay. Well, is in that mood. But there is, I know just perfect. Okay. Well, it's in that mood.

But there is, I know you are. Okay, I'm not always in that mood, but I will get in that mood when I go see you. And I can get in that mood, and it's a good mood. And your songs take me there. Are they really too? Thank you. Especially like the ones that are like very personal

about when you're a kid and you're drinking beer, even though I didn't drink beer, but I get what you mean. And the girl is on your shoulders and all that stuff. It's almost like it makes me like a get very, you know, oh gosh, those days are gone. Boy, it looks like a nostalgia baby. Anyway, the lyric is something like,

you know what, it can. Only in America. There's only in America. Oh no, no, no, no. Wrong again, my partner ladies in gentlemen, you do a very twillic quest act. You no, no, no, no. Wrong again. My partner, ladies and gentlemen, you do a ventriloquist act. You can get on my knee, Bob. Oh, you're a big man. Oh, please, ladies and gentlemen, he doesn't mean it. He wasn't educated. No, Bobby, stop it. He's terrible, ladies and gentlemen. Tell the nice people you're sorry, Bobby. I'm very sorry,

ladies and gentlemen. See, there it is. He's a sorry. What a great evening it is tonight. Ha ha. He's a sorry puppet. I've always said that. All right, so here's the lurk. It's something like one kid dreams of fame and fortune. One kid helps pay the rent. One might grow up, one might wind up going to prison. One might just be president.

Oh, man, America. Amen. So, sold. That's true. But you also have to admit that certainly historically, that ratio of likely to go to prison or become president was heavily slated toward the white people for the president part and the prison for the black people part. Now, things have changed a lot. Are you saying we should send Barack Obama to prison?

No, I'm not. I thought saying, you know, now the woke, one of the big, you know, like issues I have with them is they will not concede the amount of change that has taken place in certainly the last, especially five years, but 10 years, and all through history. Not to say we're done working there,

must progress, must be met, of course. Oh, that's my worst, worst fucking thing I hear from anybody doing a charity. There's a sports fucking player who can't fucking hold an interview down like, well, you know what you're like? It's just so tedious to always have to interrupt an adult conversation, to appease the people who need to hear things that we just take for granted.

Yes, there is more work to be done. We get it. Yes, Black Lives Matter. I heard you say that in one of your songs and like... Yeah, and then I after I said no shit, like fucker. Right. No shit. Like, that's... They black lives matter. Right. Oh wait, we need to have a science class on this. Fuckin' get to the bottom of, fuck the bottom of, yeah, of course. But anyway, how's that working out? The point of my dissertation on the song, Only in America, is that, that, yeah.

They say black lives matter, isn't it? No, let's go brand it. No, no, it was way before. Stop it. And, but that to me is the blind, little blind spot with the Republicans, is that they think that one mic drop to be go to prison, one mic drop to be president,

that just because that, technically and legally, that's still possible, and it's way more, like even handed than it ever was, but there still is a large historical way toward, again, one of those groups. So you're... You know, I mean, it's like 44 to 1. So there has been that is a little bit of a victory. 45 to 1? We up to 46.

It's by... I just like 45. Oh, yes, of course. And I'm sure you think it'll be 47. Yeah. So you've been at the White House. Is it fun? Must be a lot. Fuck the kid.

Well, I've been there with all the presidents since I've been separated. Really? You were there for like Clinton, Obama, Bush? Yeah. Because I always did those Kennedy Center honors. You like as a tribute to somebody? You have done Led Zeppelin because I frankly can. Alton John. Wow.

Um, Merle Haggard. Wow. They used to call me for these things and then I was like, I love Trump. They're like, lose this fucking number. Yes. Literally. I've gotten shit every day. And that's what has to stop.

That's what has to stop. This, and that's what's going on. There's a lot of, you don't get to sit at our lunch table. Right. And I know you don't care about, you have your own lunch table, I have my own lunch table. It's just a bad attitude. It's just gross. It's a shitty way to live life. It's just a bad attitude. It's just gross.

It's a shitty way to live life. It's just a shitty way to live life. No, that is, man. I have more fun with some of people think friends, family, fun, whatever they think, differently, just like, okay, you're not gonna cry, right? All right, then let's fucking go. And let's have fun around a campfire, drink some beers,

and like, hey, I'll give you a fucking hug at the end of the night. Like, fuck, it's like hockey. Like, let's fucking get out with it, man. There's too much, like you said, we're trying to kill some time. So we fucking die. Right. And I don't understand a young generation

that seems to be so, if not antifon, anxious about fun. Like sex makes them anxious. I mean, I was anxious. What was that? It was anxious about finance. You know, I know, but anxious. Was it to like, no, my, but-

That's sex for. No. No, I mean, I was anxious, but like in a, I feel like a healthy horny way. Like I was just like, like a masturbating machine when I was 13 and 14, not getting anything, but just like masturbating furiously, but at least I had a singular goal.

I knew what I was going after, I knew it. I wanted, it was just, I was shy, so it wasn't happening. Yeah, when did fame overtake pussy? What do you mean? So I think there's some kids out there rather be famous and get some pussy. Absolutely. Well, there's, I mean, I know. I think you just described that. Well rather be famous and gets a pussy. Absolutely.

Well, there's, I mean, you know. I think you just described that. Well, we can run back to tape, but I'm like, that's what I gather from that amount. No, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. When you're young, you know, I think starts working. You're like, God, dammit. But fucking course teacher looks hot.

Well, see, you know, you and I, I think, have the same high libido. Like, I think this is a very under reported thing about humans is that we have very varying levels of libido. So for you and me, we can't imagine something being more important than, as you say, pussy. So good.

You're so crude, kid. I think that's called being a guy. I think that's called being a guy. Well, but it's not. See, that's the thing. It's being a certain kind of guy. Like Bill Clinton is that guy. I mean, I could name lots called being a guy. Well, but it's not. See, that's the thing. It's being a certain kind of guy. Like Bill Clinton is that guy. I mean, I could name lots of guys like that.

Well, name the ones who aren't. They're called dogs. You could probably get that, because there's very little last time. You just don't hang with them. There's many, many, many. My libido's not like fucking like gold for any, it's like, I mean, of course, when you're young and you have the opportunity is,

but as you're like, like what? Quality, not quantity. Right, absolutely. But still quantity, hold on. I mean, but my grandpa used to say everything in moderation, including moderation. That's great. Yeah.

Well, I'm not going to say that. That's great. That's great. That's great. Yeah. Well, do you get people here? What was the point? Oh, I got one left. Libby.

Yeah. Nino. That's. Oh, fucking, what's the name? You really do like beer. Yeah. I mean, I really don't like beer, but what's the point? It doesn do like beer. Yeah. I mean, I really don't like beer, but when you sing, I'm not a Democrat.

I'm never going to announce for a party, although I certainly have caucused with the Democrats. Money, you give them Democrats. $2 billion. Ask me how much I've been. Ask me how much I've been Republicans. Nothing. $4 million. Really? No. I asked me how much I'd get in Republicans. Nothing.

Four million. Really? No. That's what I'm good at fishing. Yeah. Well, I mean, the first time I did it, because I thought it was very, very, very important. That was a bomb, right? The first black president would be reelected.

I thought that that was even more important than elected, because otherwise too many people would be like, well, we tried a black president, and obviously that didn't work out. I always said, man, I wanna hang out with Obama and drink beer. I mean, just not a cooler. All the presidents that I've been, you know, it wouldn't meet from Jimmy Carter, I like.

And it'd be cool. Or just, you gotta be charismatic, like obviously. You think he can't get down right right I want to drink beer with him I didn't like a lot of policies the set me out there I didn't vote for him I was invited by MTV like because they wanted to show a diversity back then like we're right wing guy who's got fucking song or two rocked you and I was supposed to go do George W. Bush's homecoming, like back to Waco. And they dug up, like they've vetted some shit where I did say some crazy shit about Barbara Bush,

like in a early record when I was 17 years old, right? So they found that, they're like, basically you can't come very nicely, whatever was done. Like, you know, like, oh, we're busy, we're not doing the party tonight, no one's coming, no one RSVP, like, no, I should. So TV calls, like, how would you play? But I'm like, of course I would,

can I bring my son, my son's mixed? I think it's a big deal, you know? I have a big deal for me too. I'm like, fucking, hope this motherfucker gets it right because I voted for him but and then we're going where where where there we perform. It was great. They grabbed me in Kanye West and they're like Hey, it's time to meet the president and first lady. I'm like junior come on and they're like no, no, he can't come Just you guys you know secret service all If I am like fuck it follows He can't come. Just you guys, you know, secret service all. And if I got my fucking followers, go in there.

Big guy, you're standing around, Michelle, look beautiful, Perox, Kool's a cucumber, and a bowl of hot sauce. We say hello, he's like, tell me what's going on, Rock, what's going on? I'm like, I'll tell you what's going on. I go, my son sitting out the door was mixed. Smothers black.

I'm like, kind of big deal. Like, you know, if you'd like say, I don't for a second, whatever. So he's like, sure, bring him in. I like the secret shirt. I'm like, fuck you. No, we, I just tell you.

I just tell you. I just tell you. This guy's talked, by the way. It's fucking fun. Why should we sit here with handcuffs on? I have a conversation. I don't see this. Don't see that. Sweetheart, you're talking to preaching to the converted. You know, I've been... You just call me Sweetheart, see? I've been...

That's where the best jab you could get. I've been sitting in these chairs or any of these chairs in this room for 20 years doing this. I just recently made it a podcast, but like this is, you know, does that suck having to like, you know, get celebrities people of... No, but you know what's... Because you got, because they're like a mic on the TV show. Like, you show. Would you and I, some of you, somebody I've been,

loves who have gotten to know and have a drink with. Would we have ever done this if there wasn't a business reason to do it If that's how people like you I'm a capitalist. I'm which we know, but we do things when there's like that kind of Reason to do it otherwise like it would just be so weird. Hey Bob, I'll give you as you got balls to do it because it At this point it's not about money not Not at all. Or I get it. No. Trust me, I'm right there with it.

All right. My jet has two metal fingers on the tail. Right. I get it. I get it. But this is probably one of the more important podcasts you've done because I am not on your side politically. Correct.

The same. The other one we can, but we can maybe, maybe, maybe it gets a little contagious for people like, I've lost, I'm not gonna say their names, I've lost two friends because they're like Trump. They were in friends. They were. Not really close friends. Not good ones.

That's, I cannot accept that. And that's your friends. And you sound like one of my boys in the hood. No, I cannot accept that. The fuck's your friends. And you saw like one of my boys in the hood. No, I cannot accept that. The fuck them, they were not a friend. They were never were. It's like, man, this is some history. I'm not getting into it.

It's arrogant. You know, I put in this piece I'm doing Friday about how America needs to mingle more. And like, you know, like I said, people don't move because they were literally afraid to be in a part of the country that isn't their political tribe. And good.

Hey, what's being Albauma? I've been Albauma. I've been Albauma. I mean, what I don't do. You've been to rural Albauma, I mean, hey, do you have- No, no, no, no. And there's more. He's the last people black, white, people black white fucking all it shit like no they're all poured together

They worked their ass and they fucking they will never move out of there no Bob I have never been to rural Alabama and there's no reason for me to ever go I just invite I know I love that but at my age I'm just not gonna go to a ranch or something in the middle of nowhere No, I can't go to it. But I have played Birmingham, I played mobile. It's the greatest. I'm 30 minutes from Montgomery.

He said, mobile. Mobile. Oh Montgomery. I may have played Montgomery. You're 30 minutes? Well yeah. You know what, I'll take that back. If I was in, if I'm playing Montgomery,

Alabama, which is possible, that's a, they got a theater. What are you charging at? What do I charge? You can tell me off the record. Get it, you can and free. I'll copy it for your shows. Oh, I don't know.

I mean, I'm like bookie and put you on my deck. Probably like, I don't know, 50 to 100 or something like that. Maybe there's some expensive receipts. That's it. What should I be charging a million dollars? Well, you're playing the Fox Theatre Detroit, correct?

Correct. That's 5,000 seats. Yeah. So. So you got to be walking out of there with 300 grand. Well, I can do that, man. A guy's got to eat. There's also other things.

No, no, you should. No, I mean, don't feel bad about it. No, I mean, I don't feel bad should no, I mean don't feel bad about it. No, I mean I don't feel bad at all I'm excited about that outside of your white privilege. Don't feel too bad. I I Love money and I wouldn't drive an Uber if I didn't I mean I get all I can and there's nothing wrong with that And I'm a big defender of how long you contract with HBO Forever it's like it is like with the devil. I was gonna say, because you can fucking just cancel that.

Why? Do that show you just said. What show? Ah, fuck, I just forgot. If we run that tape out, you just said something like that your new TV show. I think it's so interesting

that I'm older and stoner. And you forget what you're saying as much as I do. I'm in a band. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and you're on tour now. I mean, you're just finishing. You're just finishing. So what is, I'm very curious what touring is like now at 50?

I fly in 40 minutes for the show, go for setless, warm a voice up, go on. I have them play a little bit so I can get in the car with cops and get to the plane, get home. 40 minutes. You will arrive 40 minutes before this? Yes. I don't. And I'm going off the stage.

I don't know. I tried to hang around a couple nights. This is fucking pictures. It's just a fucking life. So picture. My biggest song is called picture. Right. Well, what I mean, especially at Roxas, I mean, you would have to take thousands and thousands of

pictures. And then what are you going to do? Let's someone's like, I bought all your fucking elves. You take them out. Well, that's why you have to do the Elvis exit. You have to be Elvis has left the building. That's exactly what I do. No, no, I get it. I mean, I also fly in. I always do two cities, but I only stay ever one night. Go to the second city and leave right after the show. And after the second, that's the only way at my age it works for me. It's awesome being rich.

It's awesome being rich. It just is. And it is. Can you imagine the out, if they banned, like you heard the talk in France, right? And they might ban private jets. Cause you know what's after that is LA. And I'm being natural like, ah fuck.

I mean, my, I, I, not that, you know, at this point, I really need to justify it because like I always fly private. Like I always say, the only people who don't fly private are those who can't. Anyone who can is seduced by it. Every fucking environmentalist does it. My thing is, if you're not gonna be serious about climate change, then just don't fucking come after me for this, because I tried, I had the first Prius, I had the first...

That had a parachute in it, didn't it? A parachute. Well, you're talking about the Prius car? Yeah. You know, Go! Well, I'm just saying I was trying. I was trying to parishioner. Well, you're talking about the Prius car? Yeah. You know, Go! Well, I'm just saying I was trying, I was trying to first try to-

You're trying to round the Prius? I was trying to set an example. You might get beat up in Detroit, you roll round the Prius. He can make sense of that, right? Yeah, of course. Because it's not made in particular. Maybe it is.

Prius is avert, no. Prius is not made in Detroit. Where's it made? The only electric car being made in Detroit when I was Rivion. I like their, actually, their trucks and SUVs. You keep up with the Detroit market? Like the car.

I keep up with the stock market, believe me. No, but like the cars and like, you care about. I'm a car guy, yeah. Not J-Lenel level, but. So you know, we should get together with, because it's perfect for what we're saying about bringing the country together, and he's another Michigan guy,

and he's one of my best friends. Oh, Michael Moore. Please. Oh, that motherfucker. Come on, man. Why? No, I would. I'd get together with anybody.

There's a, that's what I said. Stevie Wonder invited me and Kanye West to go on an African enlightenment trip. A few years ago, a Grammy after party. And I was like, fuck yeah, it's weird as shit I ever fucking heard. It's good Africa, Stevie fucking wonder. It never happened, but it aligns with what you're saying.

Yeah, Michael Moore, like fuck, I hate all. I like that one movie, but the fat people. I remember years ago I walked into Toy Restaurant. You know, this is from Flint, Michigan, Grand Funk Railroad. Well, Stevie Wonder is born a Saginaw Michigan. Bragg about that. But when they're opening my concerts.

Grand Funk Railroad? Yeah. We're in American band. I don't need hollasimone. You know who wrote that? It was a black group called the Soul Brother 6. Is that their other hit? Yeah.

Some kind of wonderful. Some kind of wonderful. That's Grand Funk Railroad? No. Yes. They made the hit out of it. Really? This was like Pat Boone doing a fight.

Are you sure? Oh, fuck it. I'll bet you this fucking part of it. No, I'm sure you're right.. Really? This was like Pat Boone doing a fight. Are you sure? Oh, fuck it. I'll bet you this fucking part of it. No, I'm sure you're right. They open for you. Yeah. But their big one is we're an American band, right? I like that.

That and the home you're captain. Everybody listen to me. And return me my ship. See, your songs always have energy. I remember hearing you once in an interview, again, always making friends, but I remember you saying something like, I think you were talking about radio head.

And you were like, I'm not putting it down. I'm not putting it down. But I thought, again, I thought, I feel the exact the same way. A creep, I'm not putting you down. And I thought, again, I thought, I feel the exact same way. A creep, I like that. Like, that's the thing. Right, creep. I like that.

I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Fucking kid. Don't know what the fuck he's doing.

I've programmed drum machines. I just don't get it, but there's lots of, you know, types of music and types of things that people like. Absolutely. I just don't, it, but there's lots of types of music and types of things that people like. Absolutely. I just don't, and that's fine, whatever blows your dress up. Exactly.

I fucking agree with thousand percent. I know, I know you do. What's fun though, is to get into conversation and lighten somebody. I'm not unlike politics or anything shit like that, but in understanding, I could play some music right now that would play a fucking mind, like you'd be like, no way, Steve Miller didn't write that.

I could play this blind black guy Paul Pena playing jetliner. There's probably right there with Sweet Home Alabama and Paul Jetliner. Like, wait, but this version, fucking, I'll turn you on to it before I leave. Yeah. Shit like that, like, let's do that shit. Send me your playlist, that's not gay.

No. You guys sharing your playlist? Oh, that's fine. I'm gonna mix tape. I want to give you before you go. No. Listen, thank you for that thing. That's an awesome.

That's Mike Lindelser. Oh, I know who exactly who it is. Well, don't call him a thing, all right. Well, he's a person. That's a thing. I mean, he's a man. There's going to be a report on this. He's smoked crack and now he sells pillows

and he makes millions of dollars. Okay, I'm just gonna say, there's going to be a report on him someday, and I guarantee it will include the phrase you're in soaked. I don't know him, he's, I know he's tried to get at me. He was actually good friends with one of Bob Sears players who passed away recently. A good friend of mine.

Alta Reed. And, um, but isn't you, you wouldn't have him for dinner? Absolutely. Well, no, no, not dinner. I'd have, I mean, but that's not because if it's Michael and Dell, I'd have him like, here, I'd love to have him here.

Can you get him here? I'd love to have my, that would, I'd love to have them here. Can you get them here? I'd love to have my- That would, I got the, what? With cameras on it. Okay, well, but like, I would absolutely love to talk to Mike little. He doesn't really, he stays out of the media. I know, but he's-

He's sitting on the media like. But the question was- Don't fucking agree with me, I'm making a joke. The question is, he doesn't like You know to be on camera. He stays out of the media Darling I understand Not just that not good enough. No, that's not a fight Hey, do you have people that can grab me another beer? Oh no, I gotta go. Hey guy. Oh, I have to work. We're talking to you

It's been two hours. It is I could do it for another two hours. I swear to God. I hope we keep in touch. Are we gonna hug? Hey, you're a big girl, man. I'm gonna hug you. I got down. See, we laugh.

That was good. I'm gonna do it. We laugh. That was good.