Club Random with Bill Maher - Lara Trump | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

Bill Maher sits down with Lara Trump for a blunt, surprisingly open conversation that jumps from Trump the man vs. Trump the caricature to crypto, bank blacklisting, immigration raids, tariffs, Russia, and the myth vs. reality of how the economy actually works. With Secret Service in the room (and definitely pretending not to listen), Bill doesn’t let her off the hook as they mix it up over influence peddling, media echo chambers, Thanksgiving political combat, woke snobbery, and MAGA tribalism. And somehow, through all the disagreements, they still crack up over Bill’s leather-pants rant, his retired Trump bits, the Mar-a-Lago playlist, and the infamous orangutan lawsuit. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Advertisers: Get 50% off your first box plus free breakfast for 1 year at https://www.factormeals.com/random50off Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/random #rulapod #ad For Black Friday, Wonderballs is offering 40% off at Wonderballsusa.com, but only for a limited time when you use promo code RANDOM Find the right person for the role! Try ZipRecruiter for free at https://www.ziprecruiter.com/random  Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: [e-mail] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And enjoy. Via rail, love the way. Hey, what's up, flies? This is David Spade. Dana Carvey. Look at, I know we never actually left, but I'll just say it. We are back with another season of Fly on the Wall. Every episode, including ones with guests, will now be on video.

Every Thursday you'll hear us. NC is chatting with big-name celebrities. And every Monday you're stuck with just me and Dana. We react to news, what's trending, viral clips. Follow and listen to Fly on the Wall everywhere you get your podcast. I know this will be just a crazy thing to say, but Donald Trump is not perfect. I know. Oh, my gosh.

This is our plat. Hamas is the good guys. There you go. Who wouldn't want to vote for that? Let's do it. Yes. Hello. Hi.

Hey, Bill. How are you? Well, I was going to get shot walking over. Stop it. Well, I saw all the security. Oh, are you? Great to meet you, Laura. You too.

Thank you. Thanks for coming. Absolutely. Love a guest who's on time. I love a guest to. Oh, see. Look at us. Work early, Phil.

I love a guest who says yes. Okay. Well, I heard you didn't like leather pants. And I'd be honest, I had a leather skirt on earlier and I know who told you that I didn't okay Cheryl Hines she sure did you talk to her I didn't talk to her but I heard about it okay so I just wanted to come correct you know well no no no first of all it's not a blanket thing about leather pants we were just talking I forget we were talking about it I know what I meant or where it came from which is like in a romantic relationship it's just too

thick. Oh, you know, when you touch. Nonetheless, I wore jeans, so I think we're good. You look great. Thank you. You always look good. We try. Yeah. You know, you do your best. Can I get you something? I'm upset right now, I feel like.

Do you drink? I mean, I've had a couple of drinks before. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I mean, like, my mother right to the end, you know, 88 would always always have the five o'clock. Oh, I don't make it a daily occurrence.

I try to limit myself, but, you know. No, and my parents, World War II generation, you know, the cocktail hour was, you know, five. They would... Yeah, did they drink Manhattan's? Manhattan was a popular drink at the time. No, my father drank what he would call a very dry martini, which is gin.

A glass filled in gin was called a very dry martini. Yeah. But, you know, that generation... If you drank like five minutes before or five o'clock, you're an alcoholic, but five o'clock, I mean, they were just like, you'd see the salivation come down as they looked at the clock as five o'clock. You could have a... But that was their way of dealing with things. I feel like that generation, man, they went through a lot. A lot. You know, and I feel like today, there are few people appreciate that. We've kind of softened up a little bit. So maybe we could give them their drink. They deserved it. Oh, I mean, my parents both were in World War II. My mother was a nurse. My father was in Patton's army, you know.

That's so cool. Yeah, it's cool if you live through it. I mean, it's, see, I find that era so fascinating, and I find I can't learn enough about it. My grandfather served in the South Pacific. He was in the Navy, and he died when I was like a year old, but I always think how cool it would have been to hear directly from him his stories. And we're, I mean, there are so few who are still alive from that generation that it's almost like totally done. But now, yeah. It's, I mean, what a, it really was the greatest generation.

Oh, I, yeah. Certainly the toughest. Yeah. But, you know, I talked to my mother about it and she said, we were not tough until it was thrust upon us. Well, yeah, they had no other choice. Right. I mean, first they got hit with the depression. Yeah.

And, you know, that's when my parents were kids in the 30s, you know, and it's probably even tougher on kids. But, you know, I have my mother's old letters to her mother who had to work out on Long Island. My mother was left in New York with the husband. I mean, my grandmother's husband, he was in a cab as soon as my mother was born. So she was like a single mother in the 20s, which was not the usual. And I remember my grandmother telling me she was driving and men would yell at her. Because she was driving? Yes.

They thought that was highly inappropriate, a woman driving. Good for her for keeping on driving. I like it. I'm about that. That sounds good. And now, Mohammed bin Salman is at the White House? And he's letting women drive. You know, look, look at Tom Bill.

It's full circle. Do you understand what's happening? Yeah. So were you at that dinner? No, I was not. Where was I? Are you usually at those dinners? Not usually.

No? No, I mean, my life is so critical. crazy. I don't get me wrong, we always get the invite, but Eric and I are both incredibly busy. You know, we're working hard all the time on all of our own stuff. So to kind of drop everything and go there, you know, well, we can do what we do, but not always. It doesn't always work out. I sure dropped everything and went there when I got invited. You did. You did, but I heard that was a great dinner. I love this. I was looking at this earlier. You know what that is. I do know what that is. Did you hear my report on that?

Tell me. Oh, I have to send it to you. You should see what I said about it. Because, you know, it made everybody crazy on the left. I know. And they still are. And, you know, it's so funny, this is a little surreal because, you know, Friday is our last show this season. You know, it's right before Thanksgiving is when we always get our winter break.

So, you know, the Thanksgiving show. I'm over there waiting for you to come. And I'm writing, you know, the end of the show, what we call our editorial there at the end. And, you know, at this time of year for this show, there's like, I've done the same topic I feel like every year because I have to, because there's only one topic that's sort of appropriate, which is it's Thanksgiving. Be with your family. Don't cut off your family. Agreed. I know you do.

Yeah. I know. Yeah. Even when there's a lot of things we don't agree on, and there's certainly a lot of things your father-in-law does that I don't like. Can he just let me know? I'm sure he has. Oh, yes. But, you know, when I, but here's the difference.

I'll tell you the difference. When I went there, I brought that. That is a page of 56 different, just the mind of a man who would come up with those many off the top of his head. No, this is, of course, over many years. Of course. But still, it's just like I couldn't come up with that many variations if I tried. Very creative. He's very creative.

No, mojo, nervous, low life. dummy, so-called comedian, not a smart guy, better than Sominex fired like a dog, dumbass. I mean, is that your Donald Trump impression? Because I kind of like it. It's not that good. But the fact that he got, so he signed it. Yeah. Okay. So then we went and, you know, he was nice right away. You know, this is, again, this is what the left hated that I would not lie and say that, you know, I said, a crazy person doesn't live in the White House. A person who plays a crazy person on TV sometimes, I think, lives in the White House. But, you know, and this is what many people have reported.

But, like, we went after the Oval Office, and he showed me every inch of that White House, I must say. He's very proud. Oh, very proud. First of all, he's very proud to be in the White House. And he appreciates the history there and what it all means so much. Oh, boy. Yeah, I mean, he really does. For anyone who has any question whether or not he's.

respects it and what he respects it so much and he he he is still for a guy who has trump tower who has mara lago who has all of these amazing properties around the world he is still awestruck by the way you could oh you can tell yeah which is funny because when he first got there the report i don't know if it was true maybe you know was that he said it's a dump oh my god of course not never said that no that certainly was in the press well oh you mean everything out in the press no no no absolutely Absolutely not, but I'm just saying that's like, he was like, and I thought, oh, well, you know what, the parts of the White House are small, not the part he showed me. I didn't realize that the living quarter section is such a big palace.

Beautiful. But I've been in, I had been in the other side, the working plan, and that is small. It's smaller than you think. It's old. It's the rooms, and there was mice and like lots of, I thought, well, this guy's been, you know, surrounded. He's always in luxury. I mean, now it looks like Saddam's Palace, for Christ's sake. It's very gilded.

It's very Donald Trump. Yes, it's very gilded now. He does love gold. But can I tell you, I give you a lot of credit for going there because, and for, by the way, being honest about it, because I think that there is a lot of pressure on people, especially in your space and in the public eye, to immediately try to attack him. And for you to say yes to go to a dinner there, and for you to then say, you. you know what he's not a total lunatic

like everybody wants to report and to put this up and I think it's I think it's great I'm so happy you did that and never pulling a punch what I'm like the people it's so funny he texted me a cup I don't think I'm telling tales out of school I would not betray any private

confidence I've had with him but I don't think this is very personal but he texted me a few weeks ago yelling at me for you know because you know I I you know I I say to my critics on the left, just couldn't you at least wait to see if I was seduced by this dinner because I never was. I went right back to doing my job, which is calling him out on the stuff where I think he is very wrong and there's a long list of it. A lot of it is not basically the idea of addressing a problem, which I think he very often has good instincts to

address this. It's how he's doing it. We can talk about that or not if you want. And so I never stopped with that. So he's yelling at me about how, you know, he said, you know, I guess you forgot our dinner and, you know, you're been, you know, captured by the lunatic left. And I said, I wrote back always respectfully, how could I forget about our dinner? The people who hate me for it, never let me forget it. I'm sure they do. One fucking day. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay. So I could not have forgotten about it. But you know what? I'm not going to stop doing my job. And he, you know, he, you know, he gets it. He gets, at least for me, he does. No, I think so. It did not end. There was a bit of an exchange. It did not end nasty or I'm cutting you off. And the difference is, since that dinner,

not one public thing there. And also, I'll tell you this, I've never said this publicly, but it's true. We went into the little merch room after the Oval Office, and he started yelling at me about the bit I did many years ago about the orangutan because, you know, he was, and I did not say sorry because it was a satire in response to his demanding Obama's birth certificate, which I thought was wrong and racist and not cool. And, you know, he absolutely accepted that. And then I said, but you know what, I will also admit, not that one, but yes, have I taken some cheap shots? I have. And that's not necessary. And by the way, I'm kind of bored with it. You've been on the public stage here for 10 years more before he

was run for president. And since then, no jokes about his weight, no jokes about his hair, his makeup, there's nothing, Melania, I have enough on my plate with the policy. I don't have to go there. So I thought, like, you know, this is how people bridge. Yeah. You make a little thing here. I make a little move this way. It doesn't hurt me.

It doesn't hurt you. And I like it better. I like sticking to this. I'm not, I forget how I was telling this, too, that my right. you know they were giving all these jokes about something was going on with his hand and I said I said the hand save yourself I'm 70 that could be my hand tomorrow it's true absolutely I'm not making fun of physical deformities and that stuff good for you it was fun for a minute and you know but like yeah I don't need it and if that would if we can like do that on a bigger basis where people are talking and give you know somebody has to give

little somewhere. Exactly. I agree. Well, but your side doesn't either. Well, I think our side has also been really beaten down in a lot of ways and unfairly represented and attacked in so many ways. And I think that people, I feel like we're kind of coming to a place where it's leveling a little bit. But I think that, you know, for a lot of people in this country, they felt for a long time, like they didn't have a voice and they didn't have, they couldn't get on top of anything if you were conservative. And so I kind of feel like things are kind of balancing a little bit. And you know what? I will give, I will see people doing what you've done helps that so much. It really does help it so much because I think we need to remember at the end of the day. No one else is doing what that I'm doing

no. No, I agree with you. Everybody else is in their fucking bubble. We need it. Yeah, we need more of it. We do. Well, I'm here, Bill. I came here. I appreciate it. And I always, and I always give the conservatives, there are props on that. Yeah. I say it almost every time a conservative is on the show or comes here. Yeah. You know? I mean, I'm willing to sit down and talk to anybody.

Ask any conservative. Unfortunately, we can't ask Charlie Kirk who was here. That's right. Matt Gates, Marjorie Taylor Green was on real time, either here or on the show. Ask any of them. They will always, Ted Cruz, they will always say, we had a good time. Yeah. We had a good time.

You know, I have, now, there are people who I wouldn't have here, like that little prick, Nick Fuentes. That is an unfortunate individual. And I hate that he gets associated so closely with, you know, the MAGA movement with my father-in-law, with all of this stuff. Because that is- They should denounce him more forcefully. Well, I mean, maybe you're right. But he is certainly not the representative that I think any of us. In many ways, I would hope he, the problem, one of the problems with the,

your father-in-law is like, if anybody likes him, he has a real hard time not liking them. That's true. I mean, and that has led him to some bad things. That may be true. Which, you know what? I'm not the only liberal who said there's enough to attack him for. The thing about fine people on both sides, I mean, even Sam Harris and other liberal has made the case. I've made like, it's not the full statement.

Of course it's not. Don't get him on that. Oh, I'll go all day on that. I know, no. And what that is, is just this thing of him, anybody who likes me, I can't quite denounce. But this Fuentes prick, like, Trump is not Hitler. No. I mean, Larry David said I had dinner with Hitler because it was such a bullshit thing.

Trump is not Hitler. This Fuentes kid, that's Hitler. No, there's nothing, nothing I will say that I've heard come out of his mouth that I think I agree with, or many people who consider themselves maggot. And quite frankly, the fact that he's got a Trump flag up behind him shouldn't say that, you know, we agree with him. That's unfortunate. We need to get you a new lighter. You know what happened around here? We got anybody with a lighter?

I need some help. Someday somebody's going to explain. Is this a sign you should stop smoking now? No, no, definitely not. Bite your tongue. Oh, my gosh. Zip-O lighters, they're so cool, and they'd never work. See, this could be a ma-ha moment for you.

Maybe we want to make Bill healthy again. I had RFK there, too. See? What did he say about this smoking? I don't know, but at one point he cried. Oh, my God. Yeah, I think we were talking about his father's. I mean, I wasn't trying to be Barbara Walters.

But maybe you are deep down. Little did you know. Maybe I am. Wow. But, no, he was, I mean, you know, I like Bobby. It's another one where, can I go along with all of it? No, of course not, because some of it's whack. What are you not like that he's doing?

Well, I mean, I'm someone who, again, has been accused for many years, way before you people got on the scene of being an anti, an anti-vaxxer. Oh. Were you accused of that? Before a lot of this shit came along, that was their main thing again. me. Really? Yes. And I'm not an anti-vexer. I just said I would never get a flu shot because first of all, the flu is always shifting. That's correct. You don't even know what strain is out there. Neither do the people who manufacture the vaccine. You're getting the strain from

the last one. Correct. So it's not, and I remember I got a flu shot once and immediately got the flu. I feel like everyone tells me that. My mom told me that. My mom was a nurse forever. And she told me years ago, she was like, I don't, I just don't get the flu shot anymore because every time I've ever gotten it, I get the flu immediately after it. Also, I believe that I should have to be, have the right to choose. I shouldn't, the coercion that went on during COVID, I was not down with that. Terrible. Okay. So you can see why the left is very skeptical of me on that issue. I'm still not where RFK is. And where is he? I don't know, because he'll say one thing. And then I'm like, look, I'm reading it out of your book. You know, like, do you, he said,

him. You said, you know, all vaccines. You're against all vaccines. He said, that's what you think? I said, yeah, you wrote it. You know, what do I mean? But he, you know. But he can have his opinion. And then there's, there's public policy as well. And I think that for so many people who, like, look at the people who lost their jobs because they didn't get the COVID vaccine. Terrible. All the problems it caused, right, there, there should be a space where we understand that you are not going to be forced in anything. And you can decide for yourself and I think a lot of parents feel very strongly about that as well but look whether you're talking about like the the root causes of autism or the fact that he's he's bringing transparency

to a space like our food supply i agree i mean oh my god what are we feeding our kids what are we eating out there i've been much more supportive of him than most certainly from the liberal side yeah because i am on the page and have been for a very long time of much more holistic medicine than Western medicine. I've been very critical of Western medicine. I remember having Howard Dean. Do you remember him? Of course. Okay, I remember having him on... His shout that lost him the whole thing. Was that the stupidest? Was that... That's exactly where my mind went. That's what I remember. That's like the moment. You're right. That's the moment. Yeah. But I remember arguing with him about the pharmaceutical food industrial complex in this country and why we're really sick.

And so I've been on Bobby's page. Okay, I like that. Yeah. I was. like it too. So what are you doing? What do you do in your life? But he's also said things that I think are just crazy. I mean, he just goes to crazy places. I don't think your father-in-law agrees with him on everything. Well, he doesn't agree with anybody on everything. Yeah, right. No two people think exactly alike. Right. Yeah. I think that it's such a, it's such a unique moment, though, where we are actually seeing people who have, the only skin they have in the game is for the American people. I really feel like whether you're talking about Bobby Kennedy, whether you're talking about Donald Trump, they want transparency in a lot of these places where it feels like for a long

time, no one did. You know, the pharmaceutical industry and all of these people giving money and kickbacks and this, that, and the other to essentially keep us sick instead of getting us more healthy. I'm sorry, but I have, I can't let this. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go do it. Oh, I'm going. Tell me. What are you want to ask me? I'm going to. Yes. I mean, you know, you know, always with respect. But like to be talking about always American people and no, I mean, the Trump family has gotten really rich this first year in the White House. And why is that?

Well, a lot of people would say because they're doing things that people are not supposed to be in government, who are in government doing, like starting a crypto company where people can funnel money and we don't know how it comes. I mean, it does look a lot like influence peddling. It really does. And their net worth has gone up a lot. You want to know why my family got into cryptocurrency? It was because we were debanked.

Because whenever you take the ability away from people to utilize a bank in the way that has been done in perpetuity for... No bank would take your money? Well, look at what they did to the Trump organization. Look what they did to my father-in-law. You know, my husband, Eric, runs the Trump organization, and pretty much overnight, he had banks say, you know what, we are unfortunately not going to be able to do business with you anymore. These are banks that had been, you know, with the company for decades. You are talking about thousands of employees who need a paycheck. You're talking about utilities. You're talking about buildings. Like the whole scope of things comes out of a bank, and all of a sudden, overnight, you have to transfer all of that. Eric and I, you know, when we got our house in Florida, we're basically told, yeah, we approved your mortgage. Oh, wait, we changed our mind. We're not going to give you a mortgage. The things that happened to us. This is recently? This is when, this is in 2021. The things that happened to our family

were really outrageous. And actually it's one- You couldn't get a mortgage in 2021? Well, we were, we had a mortgage and then all of a sudden it was denied. Yeah. In Florida? In when, well, we were buying a house in Florida, but it was a big bank. If you were, read my husband's book Under Siege. This is one of the reasons he wrote this book. But it was moment after moment like that. And we had a lot of friends who were starting to invest in the crypto space. Cryptocurrency is something that a lot of people like because you can't be debanked, because the government doesn't have any ability to say, you know what, we're not going to allow you to get your money out. It is basically autonomy for your money. And so my husband started

really investigating and getting into the crypto space. And that's why our family got into it. It has absolutely nothing to do. And what person in government in our family has enriched themselves based off of this? The only people who are doing it are my husband and my brother. Haven't they made millions on crypto coins? They've made a lot of money for themselves. But my father-in-law has introduced a couple coins. But that's, I don't know, I don't know the specifics on coins. I can tell you, the company that my husband and brother-in-law are involved in has absolutely nothing to do with the federal government at all. But people, I'm sure, love to say that, Bill. Well, and do reports on it. You mean, 60 minutes did it last week. I mean, about a pardon that was

given to the finance, is that the guy, the Chinese gentleman? You must have seen this story. Okay. It does look, excuse me, like this administration more than any. Look, none of them are perfect. More than any? Wait, wait. I've been said of what yet? More than any in this regard, not that other administrations don't have their soft spot for people who are loyal to them. They are. This more than any I've ever seen, and I've been covering this quite a long time, looks like you get one treatment if you're a friend of the president and one treatment if you don't. I mean, to go after someone for checking the wrong box on the mortgage application, I'm sure that there are people who are Republicans, good Republicans, who have, if you went through their mortgage applications for the last 40 years, you would find a lot of them who checked the wrong box, the one that said, oh, you know what, I have two houses

and I listed them both as a primary residence, which like everybody does, but they don't go after those people. You see what I'm saying? what I'm saying? Who are you referring to in this one? Well, he's going after two people now. He just, we just found out this week, and I don't even like this guy. Congressman Eric Swalwell had him on the show. I thought, wow, this guy is just way too hungry. Thirsty, I think the kids call it. Oh, thirsty. The kids do say thirsty. He's thirsty and just too, I mean, two left for me, you know, like California. And so like, did I cry, crocodile tears? No, but like he and the

Letitian James, I think, in New York. I mean, we're talking about checking the wrong box. If you're going to do that, let's go through everybody's mortgage. Because I think you'll find some people on your side. You might have done that. I can promise you this. Our family has been scrutinized, attacked under a microscope. I would probably argue more than any family.

Well, of course, because your father-in-law is the president. Yeah, but it's not just that he's the president. It's Donald Trump as the president. I mean, they've gone after all of us in such... They will go after everything. an aggressive way. You know, they didn't go after Obama and Clinton in an aggressive way. Not like this, Bill.

Oh, please. Really? How did, how, when did you see? Clinton? Obama and Clinton's residences, personal private property, rated by the FBI. When did they have indictments against them to put them in jail for the rest of their life? Well. Everybody can agree.

We're a little outrageous, Bill. Like, really? I agree on the, uh, don't, don't go into somebody's bathroom, but also you shouldn't probably keeping files in your bathroom. But yes, that was over the top. It was a little over the top. Over the top. Yeah.

But if you're asking why they didn't go after Obama and Clinton for certain things, because Clinton and Obama never got on the phone and said, I need you to find me 11,000 votes. That is as close to a smoking gun as I can imagine. Or something that I would say, wait a second. I do agree we should give presidents broad latitude. We don't want to become those South American countries where you're just always putting the last guy in jail.

I agree. But that one, come on. You just can't do that. You just can't call up a state after an election's over and say, look, you've got to find me. You can't find votes. We vote. We tablight them up.

We count them. Well, no one knows this better than I do because I was the co-chair of the RNC and I worked really hard on election integrity last year, Bill. I'll say that. Well, what did you think of Tulsi? Abbard's report that came out about what Obama did, though, after the 2016 election. What did you do? When...

Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah, he investigated... He essentially made sure that Donald Trump was not only spied on, but also encouraged the Russia collusion hoax, which is written in textbooks around this country that the reason that Donald Trump won the 2016 election was because... because Russia helped him win. Russia colluded with the Trump campaign.

Do you know the saddest part of all of that to me, having worked as hard as we all did in that election and campaign, none of us knew anything about politics? We came in very green, very naive. There were so many staffers, people who really just believed in the cause, who were so hurt, had their lives destroyed, because they had to lawyer up. They had to protect themselves and fight back

and defend themselves from something that never even happened. And those are real problems as well. And unfortunately, there really hasn't been any sort of accountability for any of that. But it really tore our country apart. It really put a stain on so much of the first, you know, administration. Yes, but again, it's not like there wasn't smoke there that would make people think maybe we should investigate if there's a fire. I mean, I think it was your own husband who at one point said we get most of our financing from Russia. It was either him or Don Jr. said that.

there was a it's a quote from them it's it's not company no no one of one of the company or for the campaign this is before this is like back they said this back like in the early part of the century you know you never were familiar with that we get most of our financing okay so when you're talking about a company but what happened during the campaign that made you think that there was some sort of collusion with russia he said publicly russia if you're listening i mean you know he said it out loud i heard it And then Russia did something the next day. They hacked the emails the next day.

I mean, it was, you know, certainly, you're right. It divided this country in a way that we're never going to recover from. I mean, we were afraid to hang out with people we knew who were Russian because we were like, did we collude with Russia? We didn't even know it. Because he said one of his first press conferences, like, I don't know anybody from Russia. And then there's like, you knew everybody from Russia. We've never had any meetings.

Turned out everybody had meetings with Russians. Everybody had meetings with Russians. But it also turned out that Hillary Clinton in an email also was very happy to have the FBI just kind of sprinkle some crumbs out to make it look like the Donald Trump and the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. That's also a problem. Well, that's politics. Of course you're going to take, if a guy actually says out loud, Russia, if you're listening, please help me. then you're going to use that in the campaign. I don't think that should be a big surprise.

Tens of millions of dollars in the Mueller report later. And we know that Donald Trump and our campaign did not collude with Russia. Well, that's not exactly what the Mueller report said. They did not say that word, but Mueller made it, went out of his way to say, I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm just saying I can't prove it.

And I'm not going to, I wouldn't take this case forward. And that's a lot because Mueller was sort of like they picked like the kind of over-the-hill guy who had lost his fastball there. That could be true. But I can tell you with 100% certainty bill, there was zero collusion with Russia.

We worked our asses off on that campaign. And when I tell you, it was... Well, both things could be true. You could have worked your asses off and there could have been... Listen. Putin said he wanted... Oh, my God. He said he wanted him to win.

So? That doesn't mean we colluded with him. No. A lot of people say things. That doesn't mean you all met in a room and twirled your mustache. and flip your black cape. It just means that some people know they have common interests. I mean, we do know that there were lots of Russians

who were purposely putting stuff on the internet that weren't directly pro-Trump always. They were just designed to foment anger in America. They were just things to get people fighting because they knew that the more we had this impression that things were falling apart, It was probably going to be better for the insurgent candidate. By the way, you know who else does that is China.

They love to tear this country apart. They love to see us at each other's throats just in general, but that's to enrich themselves. That's to benefit China so they can us as the power of the world. One thing we totally agree on is I love America. Amen. That's my team. That's my team too. I know.

Yeah. I know. Yeah. And I don't give any quarter to the leftists who just constantly downgrade America. It's another reason why they hate me. I mean, this is what I said to him in your father on in the text. It's like, you know, if I'm so captured by the lunatic left, why did they hate me too? God, did everyone hate you, Bill?

Everyone who's not fair. Yes, exactly. You're all right. That's how you know you're doing the right thing. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's true. When they both have an issue with you. Yeah.

That's also why the people who like me like me a lot. Yeah. From both sides. And the people in the middle who do. just have had enough of people in their bubbles. Mm-hmm. You know, I find it very frustrating that I cannot get the full story anywhere in the old media. It's very, I mean, I love the new free press.

Mm-hmm. My girl, Barry Weiss has started that, and now she runs CBS. Yeah. You know, you're seeing a change there that's more fair. I mean, I've been very tough on the media and their biases, and I cry, no tears. We're losing NPR. and PBI. Yeah, don't cry any tears over there.

I don't. No, I think that's probably better for us. I don't. I don't know why you need the Kennedy Center. Do you like the independent journalist in the press room? What does that mean? Oh, in your press room. Yeah, in the White House press room. Not mine, but, you know.

Maybe one day, Bill. Well, I'll keep the Trump train running. Everyone would like that. Well, I know you were a very serious contend. You could have run for governor in North Carolina, right? Senate. Senate. I was considering to run for Senate and North Carolina in 22.

Or Florida, right? Marco Rubio C. So why did you say, why did you deter? I got to be honest, it was one of the hardest decisions of my life. And it's funny because my father-in-law told me after I decided, our family ultimately moved to Florida instead of North Carolina. We left, we made our home base Florida instead of New York in 2021 when I told you about the mortgage situation.

And it was just a better fit for us. So, you know, we weren't going to live in North Carolina. And I said, this is not the time for that. And then Marco's seat came up, and I took it very seriously. I had many conversations with him, and he was incredibly generous with his time and to explain everything to me and encourage me. And my father-in-law is the one who said to me, he was like, you know, you're the only person who got to walk into a Senate seat

and the only person to turn it down. And I was like, oh, well, maybe there'll be another chance. Honey, there'll never be another chance. That's it. You're done. And then Marco Rubio's seat came up, and I was like, oh, a lot of people were were really, you know, heavily pushing me in that direction. And, God, I mean, it would have been amazing.

And I've never had a harder decision than that. Or, you know, at the same time, I was in talks with Fox to have a show there. And I ultimately decided it because my kids are so young. Yeah. They were at the time five and seven. They're now six and eight. And, you know, they still want to hang out with me. Yeah.

And you don't get all that much time with your kids. I think they say that 80% of the time you spend with your children is, until they're like 16 and then after that it's basically that's the 20% is like after that and beyond so they're still in an age where they want to be around me i think you know there's no more important role i'll ever have than that of mom and so i ultimately decided because my kids that this wasn't a time for it well also you know i propos of our discussion of a few minutes ago matter who you are if you run Oh. You are volunteering to go through a gauntlet on both sides.

They do it on both sides. Oh, look. What you got a Donald Trump impression? I like that. That's great. No, you're right. They do. You're right.

And you were just at, I mean, you saw what Michelle Obama said this week? Yeah. I don't totally agree with that. I completely disagree with it. Yeah. She's, if people don't know, and we're going to talk about it on my show Friday, I think. I mean, she said, you know, don't even ask me to run for president because we're not ready for it. And we prove that and the country needs to grow up.

And that is not my take on this. My take on this is, well, first of all, it's not a scientific fact that the two women who the Democrats ran lost because they're women, which is exactly what the premise of your comment is. We ran women and they didn't win. Well, first of all, Hillary did win. the popular boat Oh, she did, but she didn't become President Hillary Clinton? I understand.

Yeah. I understand. He pulled an inside straight and you can't, he's the luckiest motherfucker alive. Okay. But he won fair and square. That's our system. But this idea that, you know, we just a priori say, well, they were women, they didn't win, so we're not ready for a woman. I mean, I remember, excuse me,

when a lot of people said we weren't ready for a black president and somebody, I can't remember who it was, maybe Michelle could help me with that. Names escaping me. Maybe Michelle Obama knows who it was. Could have, you know, a guy said, that's what people say, and I'm gonna prove them wrong.

I'm gonna be the guy that America does say, oh yeah. So I do think there could be a woman president. 100%. Yes, I do. And I actually, as a woman, I hate the idea that anything is centered around being a woman. What I would love is for a woman to run for president and literally

Bill never talk about the fact that she's a woman. Because guess what? Who cares? You either have ideas and policies that matter and that are going to be effective and you prove that you're a good leader and people are going to vote for you. But it, it, to say the problem I think. Well, that's a nice theory in fairyland. But in reality, in reality, people are tribal and they certainly, I mean, look, Michelle Obama was not right to say that, but it's also true that I'm not going to name names, but there are certain cultures, shall we say, that are still quite macho, shall we say? That may, you shall, you can. Yeah, okay, so, I mean, you know, the dude is visiting the White House this week. I mean, the women there are not, we would not call them in our society.

Equal citizens. I also don't. Their view of women is quite different. Correct. Good news is we live in America. Yes, you do. But not everyone who does live in America. There are still a lot of knuckle-draggers.

That's true. And I'm not just talking about the MAGA white people crowd, wink-wink. There's lots of, when it comes to macho and not thinking women should be president. I mean, there's lots of cultures. I'm not naming names. I agree with you. But they run the gamut, shall we say. I still don't think that it is, I think we are at a time in our country where people are ready for that.

One of the things we have to correct in America is people should not have to feel bad about living in any part of the country where their politics isn't a majority. And that works both ways. I agree. Like you didn't feel comfortable there and that's wrong. And look, I never stop ragging on. liberals and woke people, not liberals. I'm a liberal. These people are different for just being fucking snobs. This is the, I won't eat with you at Thanksgiving people. This is the no-contact thing. But, you know, lots of liberals wouldn't be comfortable at a NASCAR rally either. I mean,

there are places where you, but I will say, and this is something I'm going to say Friday night, the liberals are worse about this. I will admit it. And we have to look in the mirror on that one. we are just worse at the snobby thing, at the, I don't know any conservatives who don't at least talk. Right. You know, now maybe that's because you won. Maybe that's because it's easy.

There was a time where we didn't. And you still came. It's true. Yes, there was a time we did it. They're happy warriors. I remember that term when I was a kid. Like, that was somebody who was like, and that's what Republicans usually are.

They're happy warriors. They come there. You see, I don't pull my punches. They take their shots like a man. Yeah. You know. Did you ever see Dean Phillips talk about going to a Trump rally? Dean Phillips.

I mean, the guy who challenged Obama? Dean Phillips is the guy who tried to primary Joe Biden. Challenge Obama. Yeah, right. He wanted to run this past election. He runs my pot store now. Oh, fantastic. Can you believe that?

I love that. Small world. So he was trying to run, you know, as a Democrat for president in 2024. Yeah. And he was out doing some sort of campaign stop, and he says right across the street, there was a Trump rally. He was like, you know what, I'm just going to go over and check this out. And he went over and he said, you know what, it was very different than I anticipated. I told people who I was.

I told people I was a Democrat. And people were like, well, come on in and check it out. And he said it was actually so different than anticipated because it's advertised as some sort of a good old boys, an angry group of people who you don't come in here, no, we don't like your kind, that's not at all what it is. And I think you're right, I think generally speaking, I think conservatives try to be more, more open and, you know, just generally more open, which is kind of sad. I heard they were serving Escargo at that rally. Is that right? I don't think so. No, not that far. Not that one. Not that far. No, but still, yeah. No, I mean, again, it's a lot easier to be magnanimous when,

you control everything. Well, but can I ask you, what do you think we do to get, to get the people who are the no-contact people back? Great question. That's it. Because, to me, it almost should be that we have to have someone in a leadership position to kind of start directing this. Here's what?

My husband was just calling me. Oh. It's all right. It's okay. I'll call them back. It's not the Secret Service. We're fine. Okay.

I'll call him back. Eric Trumb, I'll call you back. You have to go? No. Okay, you're good. I'm good. I'm enjoying it. I would love to...

I would love to hear what you're... No, okay. And I got a great answer for you. Yeah. Don't do things like call a woman, Piggy. Do we know that happened? I saw it on tape. Or did he say, McGee?

Here's also... By the way, but Donald Trump is an equal opportunity offender. He also said that he gave Netanyahu a lot of crap whenever he thought that he wasn't doing things right. He said he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. What does that do with piggy? I'm just saying in general, he also, how about Joe Biden called somebody a lion, a pony-faced dog soldier or whatever, dog-faced pony soldier, whatever? He said, it goes both ways. I'm just saying, a personal level.

Here I am. But what does I have to do with these people? Working on this editorial for Friday, all about how it's mostly liberals. And then who have to, like, get over yourselves, eat with your family, even the ones who are Trump voters. Even the Trump voters. Even the Trump voters. It just makes my job more difficult when during this week he says to a woman, piggy. I mean, even you must admit, this is just not cool, not necessary.

And look, I'm still going to do it, and I'm going to say yes, because you know what adults do? Adults understand that people are going to do certain things that we really hate. And you think you're a better person than me because you hate him more for kids. calling the woman Piggy. I hate it too, okay? But I'm an adult, and I understand people have their flaws, and he's the president of the United States. You can't not talk to him. There's certain people you just have to talk to, your spouse after you have a bad fight. Yeah. Who hasn't, I have never been married, but I've been in serious relationships. I know the feeling after a really bad fight where you're like, I just don't want to talk to you, but you don't. And

your boss who you hate and your relatives at Thanksgiving and the president of the United States. There are people you just have to talk to and not talking and going no contact. It doesn't make you a purist. It makes you a brat. I agree with them. Even when he says piggy. But does he have to do that? Can't you get in there and say that? Oh, my God. Bill, let me tell you something. I know this will be just a crazy thing to say, but Donald Trump is not perfect. I know. Oh, my God.

He's not perfect, but he does a lot of things that I think are great. And I think that overall, you've got to take some of the good with the bad. I mean, we're kind of saying the same thing. Yes, you got to take the good with that. Well, you certainly can't just cut people off. I mean, Biden tried to cut off the guy who was at the White House now. And what happened? One year later, this bump.

Because you can't cut off Saudi Arabia either. I understand why he wanted to cut him off because that guy cut off a guy's head. So it was like, you know what, that's not cool. We're not going to talk to you, except, oh, wait, you have the oil, and you're the counterway to Iran. We have to talk to you. You have to talk to people. I know it would be great to be able to live in your bubble. And, you know, that's one of our society's big problems, too, is that people are too isolated on their phones.

Oh, my God, I freaking hate the phone. Your kids have phones yet? Absolutely not. And can I tell you something that amazing that happened? My kids are little. They're six and eight. Hell no, they don't have. Six and eight-year-olds have phones.

Not mine. And I'll tell you what I'll think. What they do here? Well, I think it's nuts. I hate these things in so many different ways. And I think they're horrible. They're a necessity. This day and age, I get it.

But Eric and I, we had like one iPad in our house. And we would let our kids if they got their homework done. We're done with sports at the end of day. All the things, we get 15 minutes on the iPad a day. And about two and a half or three months ago now, our son got in trouble and we were like guess what you both lost the iPad and we're taking it away for two weeks and we noticed in those two weeks that there was like a very positive change in both of our kids and so eric and i were like we're just never giving the iPad back great do you know what my kids do they read books

i swear to you it's awesome it is the craziest thing i mean florida lends itself and i'm sure california is the same way to a lifestyle that is is very outdoor based and my kids are always moving and always doing things, but when they get free time, when I flew with them, you know, we went to New York last weekend. That's what they did. They brought a book. When they get old enough, they should read the book I had out last year. Oh.

Yeah. You'd like it to. Would I? Yeah. I mean, you'd especially like half of it. Okay. But it's fair and it's funny. All right.

And, you know, you would, I'll give it to you before we leave. I love it. Yeah, because, you know, kids, I think they want. want to be challenged more than they are? A hundred percent. I mean, it's not just the, it's easy to blame the technology, and that certainly plays a big part. But it's also just the attitude of parents.

I mean, my parents just didn't do it this way. I mean, I had Scott Galloway on last week, who is the guy who more than anybody has been identifying that the people in crisis the most, not that women aren't suffering, too, but are men and boys. Absolutely. Are totally in crisis. And one reason is because they're isolated, you know, and, you know, that comes as much from the technology, I think, as from parents just indulging them too much and pusifying the kids. I mean, I was a free, a free-range child.

I mean, I used to talk about in my act, how like I would come home from school at 3 o'clock, I would fly up to my room, get into my play, close, fly out the door. And my mother never once said, where are you going? Yeah. Because I would be like, where am I going? What the fuck is it to you? Going out to play? I'm in the play clothes. I'll do whatever I do between three and six and you do whatever you do. What were you doing? I was playing. I was going out and about. I was going near the crick. See, but that's the, that's what kids are supposed to do. I was playing soldier. I was collecting acorns. Yes. I was throwing acorns. I love that. I would love for more kids to get back to that. And that's something else that my kids do.

Eric and I also never let them when we would go out to dinner have any sort of a phone. Like, and they would ask us, can we have your phones? Because you go to a restaurant today. Look around at all the parents who have their kids on these phones. Let me tell you, yes, it takes a lot more effort to be a parent than to hand them this thing. Be a parent and tell your kid no. And you know what my kids do? they'll bring a football and they'll go out behind the restaurant and they'll throw the football

around or they'll draw or they'll play something they do make believe in the corner they figure out stuff to do because that's what kids do it's it's actually horrifying to me to think about what this upcoming generation of kids is going to be like because the studies show you that their their brain is is damaged in so many different ways from what they're watching from the dopamine and and all the receptors in their mind flooding them whenever they watch these videos on YouTube and do all this crap on these phones, it's terrible for them.

I told this story once on my show, and it's the kind of thing that has made the woke hate me and your side like me because I just keep it real about this shit. I keep it real about this shit, but it's a true story. I was in a parking lot like at Whole Foods or something, and there was this

I just saw this I was parked at catty corner to where this was happening and this this mother was being yelled at by her like four-year-old was just screaming at the mother and the mother was apologizing to the kid

and the guy you know and I'm watching this and the guy is watching this and you know he the The car that they were in front of had a Hillary bumper sticker on it. And he looked at me and he went, that's why I can't vote for these people. And I was like, you know, politics is not all about policy.

It's about people are not that hip to the actual minutiae of policy very often. That's true. It's just like it's a feeling. And the feeling was, I mean, I just encapsulated a lot to me. Why the Democrats keep losing to a guy who, as you say, is not exactly perfect. It's not perfect all the time. No, no, no, no. And just, like, I can't let these type, I know exactly what he meant.

Yeah. All of it, all of this anti-common sense. That's the problem. I never met an idea that was counterintuitive that I didn't love. Yeah. You know. There you go. here this doesn't really make sense what do you think of it yeah let's let's put this as our

platform Hamas is the good guys there you go who wouldn't want to vote for them men can have babies totally yes let's be for criminals let's do it well that's more complicated well let's be for criminals by the way that's one of the reasons the natives are restless on your side even your people because they voted for let's get the criminals out of the country and what they got was No, let's find people who've been working here for 10 years and go to Home Depot and get them. That's the, we don't like that. So what I'll say. If I don't get invited back, you tell them.

People don't like that. I think you'd be invited back. I hope so. I would go back in a minute. Well, I think you'll get the invite back. My point tomorrow Friday night is that we need more people like me. Yes, I agree. And the thing is, he would do it.

It's they who won't do it. That's right. He likes conversation. Yes. He was glad, I think, that night to have someone who wasn't just an ass kisser. Listen, Donald Trump asks opinions of everyone around him. Right. And he's always listening. He's always open to whatever people have to say. But to go back to what you just said there, I hear it.

And there's nothing that feels good about seeing people who had good intentions, generally speaking, leaving our country in this. manner. However, we either have rules or we don't. We either have laws or we don't. And I think what the goal has been of this administration, and they've said it too, is that they are targeting the worst of the worst. They are targeting the gang members, the criminals, the drug dealers, the human traffickers, which, by the way, 300,000 children went missing under Joe Biden's tenure as president coming over that southern border. Do you know this administration and the ICE agents out there have found 25,000 of these kids and had them, most of them, reunited with their families. There is good coming out of this, but you have been, people who think that there's some easy fix to this or wrong.

And it's very unfortunate. We should have had the laws enforced. You can't just come here illegally. And whenever they're doing these raids and they're getting the bad guys, sometimes, yes, there are other people who are collateral damage. And I'm not saying they're bad people, but they did break the law to come here. And unfortunately, we either have rules or we don't. Yeah, that's not the way to handle it. I mean, even... That's how, unfortunately, it's the nature of the beast, though. Joe Biden let tens of millions of people come over the border illegally,

and somebody has to be the bad guy and get them out. And no one is defending that. Yeah. But once it happened, once it was a fait accompli, especially people who have been here for a long time. And again, even people on your side don't love this. this tackling people at their workplaces and the idea that Americans would take these jobs, first of all, that's not true. So it's going to hurt the economy. But also, you could just say,

and look, even Bernie Sanders and Pritzker and Illinois have given Trump credit for, Bernie said, look, he did it. He closed the border. We always said it needed congressional approval, and it didn't. It can be done. But you know what? Obama deported a lot of people too. He just didn't do it by being an asshole, by being a thug, by being masked, by tackling people, by being cruel in a way that not, sending them to other countries to like basically consign them to this kind of hell of the worst kind of prisons in the world. Yes, maybe you shouldn't be in this country if you don't belong in this country legally, but you also shouldn't get that as the punishment. So it just went, it's like everything goes too far. Doge went too far. Doge go too far? You didn't like Doge? You didn't like cutting the fat off the federal government? What did you like about Doge? I do like cutting the fat off the federal government, not the way they did it. Just by, come on, man. I mean, there were people who died, who did not have to. They were getting aid. They just cut it off like immediately. They let food rot rather than have it go out to people because that was.

I mean, it was just so unnecessary, and it was so unthoughtful. You could have, like, done a very careful study as soon as you got into office. It took months. It would take months. It is the federal government. It's a long time. And found out where the fat was, which has been done by other administrations. And then went about cutting that where it, no, that's not what they did.

I've got a chainsaw. I've got a sledgehammer. Let's just break shit. Well, sometimes I will say this. There, nothing, you're never going to please everybody and you're never going to do something where everybody says, this is fantastic, because that's the nature of all of it, right? However, this is a president who does look at things differently, and you can criticize things like that, but you also have to acknowledge so much of the good, I think, that has been done by him as well. The fact that he was criticized initially over the tariffs. Okay, well, wait, the tariffs, everybody said.

And I gave him endless critical. credit for that. Okay, so the tariffs not only have brought in almost $200 billion of money into our country, but I think it's around $195 million, but they have also been leverage in order to get trade agreements. And cost people too. That's why he's giving out a $2,000 tariff check, which they said will cost them. We have eight wars around the world that have been settled, and whether we're talking about India or Pakistan, we're talking about Cambodia and Thailand. They say the reason that we decided to settle these skirmishes, conflicts, was because of the tariffs.

Yes, I understand. And we have trade agreements because of the tariffs. I talked about that on my show recently. And so you have to acknowledge that he has been able to do some miraculous things because the way he goes about things and because his mind works very differently, I think, than anyone else we've ever had as president. There's no doubt about it. I would, there is truth to that. There's also truth that I said this.

Tariffs work as a cudgel. He has used them as a cudgel. Okay. but he's also using them illegally. It's very plain that Congress is who gets to decide about tariffs. It is a tax, okay? So he is taking a power. The Supreme Court is going to decide on it.

Yes, they are. And I don't think you're going to decide your way. Interesting. I don't. Well, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. We'll see.

I don't know. Could go either way. We'll see what happens. I always love what he says that. I mean, he does say things all the time, which like sometimes unintentionally, but like, this guy is not boring. No, my God, he's been the greatest. It's so fun.

I think it's so fun. I love it. I'm just happy to be alive right now. Forget my proximity to Donald Trump. You're not in a prison in El Salvador. Well, I also didn't break the law and bring drugs and human traffic. And you wouldn't have just. No.

Most of the people they have rounded up did not have criminal records. Most? Even, yes. No, 80% of the people that they have rounded up and deported have had criminal records. I would see 70 to 80 percent. You want to bet? Sure. What are we betting?

What's super valuable to you? Oh, my God. Everything, my health, my wellness. You want to go for a run? You want to bet a run on it? Yeah, you're a big wellness. Me too. Are you?

Well, I'm 70. What are you doing to work out, Bill? I don't like look like decrepit, do I? You walked in here pretty steadily. Yeah, I feel good about it. Where are you going with that? Oh, boy, the bar's low there. Oh, my earrings falling off, Bill.

I walked steadily. Oh, no. taking our hoops off? No, hoops are always staying on. No, don't think it's that people. We're not, where the hoops come off, that's when, like, you know, Lauren Bobert's going to be here in a minute, throwing legs. Oh, my God, there we go.

He's back. We got him back, folks. I'm just trying to get this earring in. I got it. No, I did it. No, I did it. Now, why did it, did I make that fallout? I apologize. I don't know. I think you did. That's a, I'm a bad, I'm a bad man, Laura. No, I don't think so. Exactly. Yeah.

You're all right. I'm all right. No matter what they say. I think you're all right. Exactly. That's my motto. I've been pleasantly surprised. I assumed you knew or else you wouldn't have come.

No, I knew. Yeah. You see, can I tell you, I would have come, you know, regardless because I don't, I'm always happy to come converse with people. But you've been very reasonable, I think, about a lot of things. I have extremely reasonable. I think so. Even when we argue, you know I'm right about a lot of stuff. I know you can't say it because you're going to run for governor and president, and that's cool.

By the way, you're very good at what you are undoubtedly destined for. I mean, when the kids grow up or something, you're right. This is the wrong time. Everything in life is timing, right? It's so, it's everything. Look at Donald Trump. Pete Toyd was running for president since, what, like 2000? Even before that.

Well, he was asked about it before that. 80s. Yeah. Oprah asked him very famously, would you ever consider running for president? He said, only if things got so bad that I felt the country needed me and I had no other choice. You know how long Donald Trump has been famous? Let me tell you something. I did a movie back like in the 80s when I was first out in Hollywood and a young comedian doing the tonight show. Never stopped being a comedian. But you know, you always wanted to get on a sitcom, which I did. And I was doing like movies like, we have some of the stupid posters. I guess we don't have any here where you can see. But, you know, dumb movies I did like DC Cab and, uh, and, um,

I did a movie in 1990 called Pizza Man. And it was had all these lookalikes from the era. And the ending was, um, Donald Trump. Donald Trump, no, a lookalike. Oh. But I'm just saying he was so famous. This is 1990. Yeah. Then in 1998, I did a pilot for Fox. I was, as a producer, my friend Jimmy and I, we invented reality television, but we fucked it up. And so somebody else got to it first, but we invented this show where it was a scene, but you got like regular people to be the guest stars in the scene, working with famous actors. Okay. And one of the sketches was right after Titanic came out, and it was about the building was sinking. A building was seeking.

And people are just in there and they have to deal with it? And the owner of the building... We could still make this happen. In the sketch, the owner of the building was Donald Dump. Wow. That's how long he's been famous. Yeah. So sued me in 2013.

That's all... You got in on the front end, Bill. You know what I mean? Like, that's great. I'm just saying he's been famous for a long time. He sure has. And then the apprentice era. Yeah.

And, you know. Which is why it was really wild when I came into a family like this. And I had, I came from a very normal background, by the way. I grew up in a middle class family in North Carolina. And all of this has been very interesting to be a part of. So it's been a ride. And I'm still, I honestly mean this. My proximity to my father-in-law is one thing.

But even if I were not part of this family and as close to him and all of it, bit as I am. It's just such a fascinating time to be alive, you know, all of it. I think it's really, it's amazing. Oh, it's definitely not dull. It's not dull at all. No. No, I mean, look, HBO's going to announce tomorrow another two-year hitch for me on top of next year. So like, I'll be, you know, well, I don't know, three years from now, will we even have TV or like my network could get sold. I mean, they're talking about that a lot. There's that. You know, I figure if it's to Paramount, I think those are Jews, I should be good there.

But I heard today it might be Comcast, and that could be Saudi money. You know. We're on good terms now, Bill. I've always kept it real about Islam, which is another reason why the left hates me. See? Because, you know, they're on the page of America, cringe, Hamas, awesome. It's wild. And, like, I am not there.

that's what the one thing that like I am 100% full on is the Middle East thing like just first of all just backing Israel like let's not pretend that all cultures although they're different they're the same no Israel is our culture we value life we give women full rights stuff like that we're going to go with the culture that we recognize and we think it's the right one you do you And then just the way he supported Israel's solving of the problem that they were slowly being surrounded by proxies of Iran. And just like Michael Corleone in the last reel of the godfather, he took out all the enemies, settled all family business. Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis and then Iran itself, we're going to do this. So, I mean, I give them full, and then to get the war to end and also to get maybe the Arabs to finally.

We're getting closer. Well, I read in the paper today that MBS is here to announce that he's going to help with Gaza, that Saudi Arabia is going to move in there. some of the rebuilding? I don't know the answer to that, but it makes a lot of sense. And that's one of the things that I think has been very unique about this president is that he is, look, as a businessman, I think he had this incredible ability not only to negotiate with people, but to have foresight into what needed to happen and how to forge relationships to make good moves. And I would say that that could be a very positive thing for that section of the world.

They need some investment. They need somebody to come in who's going to help rebuild, and that would be great. I don't have any insight here, because I'm not part of it. Do they ever, do you ever get privy to like something before the world knows it? Not really. No? No. You could think of one time.

I'm trying to think of anything. Okay. No, I'll tell you, actually, we were with my father-in-law during the first administration, and it was, it must have been Thanksgiving. Was it Thanksgiving? He flew over and he went to see the troops over in the Middle East. I'm trying to remember where he went. But he didn't even tell any of us that he was going. They never do.

No, I mean, like stuff like that. That's for security. And then the next morning, he was just gone. And then we realized he was all the way overseas. It was very cool, actually. But they always keep that a secret. You don't want to tell the terrorists you're coming. Well, that's true.

But that is accurate. Meaning, but he didn't even tell like our family who had just had dinner together, any of us that he was even going anywhere. Right. But no, not usually. I mean, listen. Do you do Thanksgiving all at the White House? We usually have done Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago.

At Mar-a-Lago, of course. Although this year we're going to go to North Carolina with my family and we'll be in Florida for Christmas. And you live in that orbit now. I mean, that physically you're... Yeah, we're in South Florida. So, I mean, I keep reading that this is a whole world. Oh. What does that mean?

Beyond. What do you mean? It's quite a scene. You mean Mar-a-Lago? Meaning, yes. Yeah. Well, you keep saying these, oh, yeah, well, what? Spill the tea.

Like, what do you mean? Like, I would like it. It's, I think you would find it very interesting, actually. Never been married. There's a lot of material there, Bill. Come on over. How many successful never been married? You usually have to put up with their fucking kids and their third wives and they just

dumbed to, I'm clean. Free agent, ladies and gentlemen, we got him. He's ready to go. Mar-a-Lago is amazing. First of all, you have Donald Trump on the patio, and he's out there for, I mean, anywhere from two hours to, like, four hours, he'll be out on this patio. He's fully in charge of the music, and he'll raise it so loud that people can't even talk anymore because it's like a song he really wants to hear, like a Pavarotti or a Phantom of the Opera, one of these really hits him. That's what he likes? He likes all kinds of stuff.

His eclectic music taste is really fascinating. I know he loves YMCA. He certainly does like the village people. There it is. Okay, Bill Maher doing the Trump dance. I like it. Like 20 times I rolled this and said it looks like he's jerking off two guys at once. But I don't do that. I love your mind went there. But I don't do that anymore.

You don't do it anymore. That's so nice of you. That one I just got bored of. I mean, you can only do it. I only do the same gag so many times. But it is, it's fascinating out there. And then it's really like the center of, it feels like the center of everything. Well, that's what, I mean, the way they write the articles about it. But of course, I can't trust the article. We've got to get you there. Next stop, the $18 million Mar-a-Lago Club, ladies and gentlemen.

That's right. You can give us your assessment of the value once you will do. That's true. I mean, I've been to the White House. That would be the, if I'm going to have dinner again, that would be, I would love to see it. Yeah. I mean, it is kind of like seeing the court of Louis the 14th at the height of his

corruption. It's a well. It's a little, it's a, But I defended the ballroom. Oh, good. Well, that's nice. Totally. See, that's the kind of thing I mean.

I just can't stand it. That you cannot get the full story from anybody. And by the way, they, and when I say they, I mean the usual suspect, and you know who you are because you're fucking liars, will take this thing. And your people will just take the parts that make me look like what they, right? That make me look like what they want to look like. And my people will do the opposite. Of course, I'll get it from both sides because my people will show me being nice to you

to show, look at that asshole. Yeah. He's nice to a Republican. You should have burned me at the stake when I walked in. And your people will show none of the parts where I was critiquing Trump on the things I think he needs to be nothing about, all that'll go.

And it'll just because nobody's honest. So you like the ballroom? But I did because first I read, you know, he's knocking the White House down. It's not. How could he? You know, I had Michael Steele on, and he was like, my father took me to the White House, and I saw it, and it's like, oh, Jesus, I didn't know.

This was so emotional for people. Oh, my God. And then I started to read the other side, and it's like, oh, okay, first of all, lots of people have changed the White House. Second of all, it's just a fucking building. You know what? It's a building. And also, something they never put in the left. press um we are america they shouldn't be having state dinners it like under a tent it's not a big

deal so what they knocked down an office wing and put up something for state dinners which in the 21st century you probably don't need the office wing or you could put them somewhere else or put them in the what's the building across the street that's like the blah blah blah executive the in our executive office. There you go. But they're still going to have those offices. They're just building them. They're rebuilding them above where the kind of segue is into the ballroom.

Here's the thing. Who better to build a ballroom than Donald Trump? Honestly, when you come to Mar-a-Lago Bill, I will personally take you down to the Mar-a-Lago ballroom if the president doesn't do it himself. I remember we walked there and he was telling me about what's happening. Yeah. It's like the guy, we should have had the hospital. hard hats on you know like this is the this is the site where it's going to happen you know it's like

okay look no it's not it does not rise to that level of importance to me that's what I'm saying it's like there are things he does that I am very very engaged with that are important and there are things that I've told my audience treat it like a cloud let it just pass because it doesn't matter and you can't get upset about everything. I said before he won the last time, I'm not going to let him get my mind this time, and it shouldn't. Your whole personality should not be about how you feel about Donald Trump or any president. It shouldn't be your whole life. And I won't let it be that. For you. Yes, absolutely. And I tell people this. I tell people this. Yeah. And it's funny, little synchronicity we have on the show Friday night,

Mel Robbins, do you know who that is? I do know Mel Robbins. I'm sure you do. I've known her for a long time, actually. Oh, you know her? I met her, gosh, probably 15 years ago with Eric in New York. Oh, wow. Well, you were an early adapter because honestly, I'm just starting to know who she is. And, I mean, to say that's a phenomenon is an understatement. The level of that book of hers and the, you know, the point of it is let them.

That's what she says. That's the title. And it's about, it's sort of. What a very eerily apropos to this. It's like, don't let people control your mind completely. I mean, so ballrooms, no, does not rise to the light. It is not on the I give a shit list. And I actually think, again, yes, America, pretty big country. We're kind of a successful band.

We're pretty good. You know, I think we should have, when we have state dinners and shit, I don't think it should be on the grass. I do think there should be a floor. Call me crazy. But again, don't give a shit. The amount of money, it's not even public money, even if it was. You couldn't find it in a rounding era. And, like, there's so much bigger fish to fry that I have with him.

Well, like, we're giving the ballroom a good nod. Respectfully. There you go. You know, as long as you keep it on that level. Yeah. You know, and, you know, I got to say the Republicans, they do take a punch. They don't get bent out of shape because I think secretly they know I'm right. But I know they can't say it.

Marjorie Taylor Green was on, I know, she's a bad. She's now on the shit list. Oh. I've got no bones to pick with Marjorie Taylor Green. No personal issue with her. You would not believe how many people got. in touch with me like that weekend and said, wow, you know, liberal people, like, wow, why's your telegreen? I kind of liked her. Oh. You know, because she was very, you know,

my line is always, everybody's a monster to you talk to them. That's true. And I agree with that for pretty much everyone, Bill. I love it. I think that's a great way to go. Yeah. I appreciate that. I think it's the only way to be because the other way lies madness and civil war and, you know, idea that each side can own the other side. I mean, certainly that's something both of them are guilty of. They don't want to compromise or come to any sort of middle they want to own. They think, no, I want to destroy them. See, if I destroy them, then we don't have to compromise. I actually think that it would be great if we got back to a place where we had just more, and I do think this actually exists. Other, we have more in common than we do different,

and we acknowledge that, and that we had two political parties. I mean, the two party system is not perfect, but that we had two major political parties in this country that agreed on a lot more. And I think deep down we really do. I think the people do. I don't know about the parties. Well, that's right.

Because the parties get sent by the fringe wings. Well, yeah. You know, I mean, it's very hard to win a, it's easier to win a general than a primary. That is true. You get primaried, and, you know, I mean, Trump says he's going to primary. Mary Mary, uh, Marjorie Taylor Green. I mean, like, we got to find someone to the right of Marjorie

Taylor Green. Are you in charge of that? You're going to work on that. See, now I'm Marjorie Taylor Green's friend. See, God, what's wrong with you, Bill? And lots of people said, you know, they like her too. It's amazing. And, you know, what I loved is that, um, in the overtime segment, When somebody asked about the, have you been reading about the comet that is heading toward Earth that could be an alien spaceship? No. Is that right? Oh, yeah. What?

Yeah, they're writing about it quite a bit. Oh, I miss this one. Yeah. Better to not know. Just let it happen. There's, you know. It's supposed to come within 170 million miles of Earth on December 19th. some people have said that they think it's acting differently than a comet so it must be a spaceship

so it could be the aliens ending all life as we know it well i believe they're out there but margery said um when it when it came up that somebody in the some people in the defense department said no it's actually not probably aliens what it probably is is demons or fallen angels oh And Marjorie was like, right on. She said, I'm a Christian conservative. That's what we believe, demons and angels. And I was like, you know what? I think that's nuts, but I don't hate you for saying.

That's, again, you can come to Thanksgiving. Even though it's crazy to me, you think I'm crazy in some ways. And we just have to like let that go. There's a lot to talk about it. Let that go. Yeah, let it go. I mean, isn't that the secret of marriage? You have to like let it go or something?

Do you have to let it go. Let it go. You have to sometimes love the other person enough to put yourself to the side and just say, okay, we're just for the betterment of all of us, for the greater good, let's all just put it aside. And we can all do that. We can, but it's very hard when you have a fight with someone when you're that close, because that means we're also that much more vulnerable because they know everything about you and blah, blah, blah. it's so hard if you think they're fundamentally wrong about something.

Like, why can't you see it? Why can't you see? Right? You've had that feeling. Not with Eric Trump. He's perfect. But I know other people who have Bill. Okay.

Yeah. Well, I can't thank you enough for doing this when I'm sure there are people who said, you shouldn't meet with that bad man. Actually, no one said that to me. Can I be honest? Everyone I told that I was going to come here, they were like, that's so freaking cool.

Oh, that's great. Yes. That's great. I'm happy to do it. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being open. That my people. I'll tell my people.

Want peace? We do want peace. Because, you know, my people talk a lot, but you guys have all the guns. We do. And all the Supreme Court seats and all the, you know, we want peace with dignity. We want peace too. All right. We can agree on that.

Say hi to everyone in the family. I will. Tell your father-in-law, just doing my job. We'll see you at more a long ago. Okay. Yeah. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you.

Happy Thanksgiving. See, that wasn't so bad. Yeah, I have a signed book for you from Eric. Oh, great. Yeah. Okay.