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Episode Date: June 13, 2024

Sage and Jillian Michaels on Ozempic, running barefoot, the challenges of aging, legislative decisions regarding LGBTQ rights, the myths of Jillian’s time on "The Biggest Loser," Big Pharma, mental health challenges Jillian faced during her back injury and recovery, chronic pain, how motherhood has forced her to become a better person, and much more.    Sponsor the Sage SteelePodcast: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/the-sage-steele-podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I grew up here. I'm a woman. I'm a gay woman. My mom's a Jew. My dad's an Arab. I have a black kid. And believe it or not, my son is half Latin, even though he doesn't look like it.

I hold a million cards in your game of woke victimology poker. And when I leave California, maybe you've lost your mind. Just maybe. Like when you have me running from home, maybe it's gone way too far. What was the line? Like what was it? I guess the end thing.

Girl, there's not enough time. And, you know, I actually take this line from Bill and Elon Musk, and they're like, I actually haven't changed. The world around me is shifting, and I haven't moved. So some of these laws that are passing here are absolutely fucking mind boggling in relation to crime, protecting our kids. Like we're decriminalizing everything, which arguably I would probably be okay with,

but we're not regulating any of it. So it's like, okay, you're gonna decriminalize sex work, but only so women can legally loiter on the streets. Like not to keep them safe, not to have them pay taxes, not to make them regularly check for STDs, not to take away the pimps out of the equation. It's the quick, like if you made that argument to me, I'd be like, well, yes, we won't, of course.

I mean, I could be liberal. I could go there with you. But I grew up this way. But when it's like, oh, and then what we're going to do is we're going to pass a law for LGBTQ rights so that 24-year-old men can sleep with 14-year-old boys and not have to register as a sex offender because it's just not fair to the gays. I'm like, I mean, what? It's what? Like, I don't know if you saw that one. That was like, I think early 2020 when they passed that law. And it's, I was like, if a 24 year old man touches my 14 year old son, I will get a gun and take out a scene in my own hands. Yes. Like, are you fucking kidding? Or the fact that a 12-year-old child can be put on off-label cancer drugs

to irreparably change their body. Again, if my son came to me and said, Mom, my daughter, I think I'm trans, I'd say, okay, you know, like, you want to dress this way? You want me to call you whatever the heck you want me to, fine, explore it, I love you. I'm cool, like, do you as long as we're safe. But we're not changing your body

until it's fully developed, I'm sorry. Conversation's over. Can you get a tattoo? Exactly. Are you crazy? It's insane. Like, I just can't, it's madness. It's madness to me.

I could go on and on and on and it's madness. I don't know what's going on here. You know, the only word that I've been able to come up with in thinking about it and thinking about it and reading about it and tweeting about about it, and reading about it, and tweeting about it, and saying don't tweet that, and all of it, is evil. Maybe it depends on your belief system, right? But to me, there's no other explanation because it doesn't make sense.

It's not good, it's not healthy, it's not back up scientifically. I can tell you, I actually have an answer for you. Hold on, let me play this one out for you. Okay, so here's the problem. I'm gay, so I get a card and I can say what I want. I'm like, I don't know. I have a letter in your acronym. So sit down.

Do you know what I mean? Like I'm allowed to say, this is batshit. No. A straight person who might turn around and be like, that seems really crazy. Transphobe. Oh, I'm a transphobe according to Megan Rapinoe. Okay.

Yes, she has literally called me that because of the transgender sports issue which has science behind it, but because I said let's save it with sports, then I'm a transphobe, so go. Science behind it, sports is biological. And it's beautiful that way, by the way. The thing of it is,

you can transition, absolutely, You can change your hormones 100%. But if you look at someone like Fallon Fox, for example, who was an MMA fighter, right, since I believe previous, has since retired, or is currently retired. I don't believe Fallon Fox transitioned until well into adulthood. And was literally cracking skulls. I'm not exaggerating. So at the end of the day,

when you have decades of androgenic hormones and you're biologically a man, you're going to have more muscle, improved bone density, better height, greater reach. There's a reason that it's like, oh, so-and-so just won the swimming thing, oh, and the boxing thing, oh, and the biking thing, oh, and the powerlifting thing.

I mean, again, and where people struggle is that it isn't fair, and we love black and white. It has to be all good or all bad. And it isn't fair to somebody. Somebody isn't going to win here. So the issue is trans athletes have nowhere to play because there's not enough of them to have a league, right? And then you've got the millions of women that can't compete, so someone's gonna get screwed

and no one knows what to do with it. And then if you say, okay, no, this isn't fair, you're transphobic. And that's how every conversation is systematically shut down. And you really also have to look at who's behind it and why. Well, that's a very, very deep issue. The pharmaceutical industry and how much they're making

on transitioning children. And then they weaponize, I swear to God, and this is not, people love to say, oh, tin hat, Jillian claims, Jillian assumes. I do none of that. Do your own homework. I ask you to do your own homework, not to believe me, but to do your own homework.

So they weaponize these civil rights groups, like the HRC, the Human Rights Campaign, I think it is. And these guys will then go out and give you, what is it, a health equity and inclusion, I think it's like an HEI score, but don't quote me on the score, but you get a score, right? And if hospitals are willing to transition children to get behind it, then you get a low score.

It's really diabolical. The way that they're incentivizing people to say, yes, 12 year old, go ahead and make this decision. And if you don't, yeah. You then get labeled. And even the financial aspect, which, I mean, when I go back to the COVID years, the beginning of COVID,