Club Random with Bill Maher - Stephen A Smith | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

Stephen A. Smith and Bill on the bad things about certain sports, Aaron Judge's post-season struggles, PED’s in sports, nepo babies, boxing’s big problem, how the Dems lost America, identity polit...ics versus big stuff like the economy, immigration, crime, dating preferences, Stephen’s Trump interactions, aging and attractiveness, and hope for the future.  Go to https//www.oneskin.co to get started today with 15% OFF using code RANDOM, today! Go to https://www.RadioactiveMedia.com or text RANDOM at 511511 to save up to 50%, today! Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/RANDOM Support our show and check them out at https://www.hexclad.com/RANDOM Go to https://www.HeatHolders.com and use the code RANDOM 25 to save 25% OFF through Cyber Monday! For a very limited time, shop the biggest sale of the year and find your forever cookware @hexclad at https://www.hexclad.com/RANDOM #hexcladpartner  Follow Club Random on IG: @ClubRandomPodcast Follow Bill on IG: @BillMaher Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Watch Club Random on YouTube: https://bit.ly/ClubRandomYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:54 Brawny James thing. It could take two seconds. Does this melon look ripe to you? Yes. My wife is dead. Well, look who's here. I'm in the house. And early.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yes, sir. I love that. It's good to see you, buddy. Hope I didn't keep you waiting. Not at all. I'm good. You're on Asian people's time. No problem.
Starting point is 00:02:21 No problem. How you doing? You liked it so much the this time. No problem, no problem. How you doing? You liked it so much the first time. Absolutely. They told me you wanted me back, I was happy to come. Oh, I definitely do. Definitely, you mind if I get, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:33 because it's the only show I ever drink my Hennessy and Coke on. Well, it's funny you say that because I look forward to this not only because I get to talk to great people every week, but it's the only drinks I allow myself. Really? I got you, I got you. You know, I mean, two drinks. I used it's the only drinks I allow myself. Really.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I got you, I got you. You know, I mean, two drinks. I used to have that before I left the house. That's right. And now, you know, you're on a short leash when you're older. Oh well. You know what, you're aging gracefully. That's what counts.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah, I mean, like I think about what a guy like Aaron Judge is going through. How about that? The World Series he just had? Well. I love Aaron Judge, going to... How about that? The world series he just had? Well... I love Aaron Judge, but my God. Not just the hitting, which can happen, but the fifth inning with the fielding play. And like, the connection with money. Now look, Aaron Judge seems like a really great guy.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Right. Handles everything well. I mean, he's drinking somewhere now with Mayor Adams. You know? They're together. Enjoy that while you's drinking somewhere now with Mayor Adams. You know, they're together. Enjoy that while you can, they're after Mayor Adams now. They're together, just putting him back. Like everything was going so well for us.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And of course, Aaron Judge will come back. He's too great, and he had a great season. But is the money worth, I mean, part of the reason why it's just horrible for people to accept is that you're getting so much money and you drop a routine fly ball. Like I bet you he thinks, it's just, all the money in the world cannot make up
Starting point is 00:03:59 for how bad I feel. How bad I feel for letting down the whole city. You are talking to a die hard Yankee fan. I assure you Yan How bad I feel for letting down the whole city. You are talking to a diehard Yankee fan. I assure you Yankee fans are not thinking nearly as much about that drop ball as we're thinking about the fact that in multiple playoff series in his career, he is batting less than 150. Listen, at the end of the day, he's paid to hit home runs.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And damn it, if he ain't gonna hit home runs, hit singles, hit doubles, get on things. What you can't do is go to bat 39 times, strike out 19 times, and that can't happen. That brings me to, and you're a great one to answer this, maybe the best one. I think the way they do MVP voting is off because they don't include the postseason. I think the way they do MVP voting is off
Starting point is 00:04:48 because they don't include the postseason. To me this is bullshit, it's bonkers. Clayton Kershaw, another one. MVP, who is actually most valuable? If you're actually putting your own money into the team and had to pick, you're gonna pick the guy who also performs in the offseason. you're gonna pick the guy who also performs in the off season. I would rather have a guy who had 35 home runs
Starting point is 00:05:09 in the regular season. Yeah, it's gotta be a guy who gets you there and then performs in the off season. That to me is actually most valuable. Let me counter that with this. I get where you're coming from. I don't blame you for... Point, counterpoint.
Starting point is 00:05:22 No, no, I don't blame you for feeling... Stephen A, you were in slot. I don't blame you for- Point, counterpoint. No, no, I don't blame you for- Stephen A, you were in slot. Yeah, I don't blame you for feeling that way. Here's what I would say. You have a point, but the biggest point that supports your position is the fact that you wait weeks to award the MVP in the regular season. Dammit, if you're gonna award the regular season MVP,
Starting point is 00:05:44 the minute the regular season is over, before the playoffs begin, give them the MVP in the regular season. Dammit, if you're going to award the regular season MVP, the minute the regular season is over, before the playoffs begin, give them the MVP. Right. And then we're fine. Okay, now that was that. Because we don't want the regular season to be meaningless. So you want to solidify it. You want to make sure it establishes importance. Do it at the end of the regular season.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Immediately make sure no awards are given when the postseason is done, when the whole season starts. I think we can agree on that compromise. I think it's a good example for America that's trying to bridge gaps right now. And I think this is going to make America great again. I don't think it's going to happen. MVP voting right away.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Right away. But then another award for, you know, I guess they do have that. They have the most valuable player of the year. But to me, it's of the whole team. You know, the whole team right now is sucking Freddie Freeman's dick. Right. Right. That's, you know, that's who really was the most, as much as they had Otani.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He showed up. Another guy who did not show up in the postseason. Yeah, but at least he hit a home run in game one. I mean, at least he got on base and stuff like that. And he showed up at points in the postseason. He didn't have, he wasn't, he was not good for most of the World Series. But he had enough moments in the postseason where you know
Starting point is 00:06:57 it wasn't a choke job. See, Bill is a difference between a choke job and you know what, you're just in a slump or whatever. If you're Aaron Judge and you smack it over 50 home runs every regular season and then every postseason, all of a sudden you stink, that's a problem. That is a problem. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But when you have your moments, then we can respect that. But you can tell the difference between somebody who's struggling and somebody where the bright lights are just too big for them. I tell you, the Dodgers. They did it, man. Yeah, but you know the Otani sign, the O.D. went 700 million. That's crazy for one player, even as great as he is, and maybe he'll never even pitch again, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But I think what they had in mind, and they look like they're right, is they were like, you know what? I think Japan is the New Mexico. How about that? And baseball it is. And it's like one thing, if you have every team has a lot of Latin players on it. So it's not like a Latin player's gonna go,
Starting point is 00:07:59 oh, if I go to the Blue Jays, will anybody speak Spanish? Yes, every team has a, but Japanese? Like, once Otani was on that team, then Admiral Yamamoto came. And they got somebody else coming, too. And now they got the new great arm out of Japan, because it's like, where am I gonna go? Well, first of all, the West Coast, it's a lot closer to home.
Starting point is 00:08:22 That's a direct flight. How about that? Weather's better. Weather is better. Weather's better. There's a direct flight. How about that? Tokyo. Weather's better. What? Weather is better. Weather's better. There's more Asian people. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And there's some people on the team I can talk to. And the team you're going to has more money than everybody, including the Yankees at this point. And the Dodgers are the team of Japan. Do you realize? They got the whole country of Japan. I sat up there, and me being a Yankee fan, I'm like, do you realize this might be our last shot?
Starting point is 00:08:49 We haven't won a World Series since 2009, and we are in a situation right now where we're looking at this Dodger squad because Ohtani deferred more than 90% of his salary. They have the money to go out and get Juan Soto from the Yankees if they want to. They can afford him. They can afford him. I said, what a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:09:12 This can't be happening. But it is. The Dodgers, I think that the Dodgers could be in our dynasty. To me, I think that was why it was such a smart play, that they had to get Otani, because again, they got a whole country. And it's not like there's gonna be as many Latin players.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Japan is gonna come up with a great player it seems like maybe every year, every couple of years. But they're probably gonna go to Seattle, Suzuki, right, wasn't it Seattle? Ichiro, yeah. Ichiro, and I mean, the Yankees had, they had a great Japanese player. Yes, I got brain lock right now, but I know exactly who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:53 He pitched well for them. Matsui, he pitched well for them. My mother used to, he used to pitch? No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about the pitcher that they had. I keep forgetting his name right now. I'm just trying, but Matsui was good too. Matsui was very good.
Starting point is 00:10:05 But I mean, it was a brilliant play and that 700 million is paying off in that pipeline that they own. And other people, it's too. And now they pay for themselves. Doesn't cost them the money that they're making because they have a tiny. People gotta look at this.
Starting point is 00:10:25 They told us 700 million, 700 million dollars. No, it's 700 million spread over 10 years. It's 70 million per this dude walks to the ballpark in a week. They're making 70 million off of this guy. Not to defend billionaires, but like the average fan is like very angry. And I don't blame them, that a baseball game, which used to be something the common man could enjoy, is something, it's like Taylor Swift tickets.
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's like Disneyland. These things that are just so out of reach for the working people. You know, the whole election was about the Democrats lost the working people. But why do they have to charge that much? They really, really don't. It's because the players.
Starting point is 00:11:08 They really, really don't want you to consider the television contracts that they have as well. So you got to take that into consideration. They get money from everywhere. They get money from it. There's no reason to charge them. But they're paying it out in huge numbers.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It's not like the game couldn't cost way less. I'm not saying the players, look, it's free market capitalism. I'm all for it. But that's why, kids, the hot dog costs $12. Yes. It's because you're paying one guy $700 million. That parking cost $50 and a hot dog cost $16. That's what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But that's where the, that's the providence of where the money is going. You love baseball? Of course. Do I not sound like I love baseball? Let me tell you this. I like baseball. Here's what I hate about baseball, which is why it's never been my favorite. I've told people.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I'll tell you what I hated after that. I gotta, I gotta throw this by you. You want baseball to really improve and ingratiate itself, particularly with the younger generation on the come up who leans more towards basketball than football. They did a good job with some of the rule changes that they play because it invited more athleticism, et cetera. You know, pitch, count, no shifting,
Starting point is 00:12:18 all of this other stuff, bigger bases, stealing, all this stuff. But they need to totally, totally, totally get rid of the intentional walk. They did. Excuse me. Oh no, no, no. I don't mean, I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:12:31 you don't put anybody on base. Oh, you can't. You gotta pitch to everybody. You can't do it. Right. Great, love it. Done. Listen, you're a grown ass man.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Where's my rubber stamp? So I'm a grown ass man. Yes. I'm pitching. Yes. Bill Maher's batting about 330, and he's coming up to the plate. Well, don't even bother the guys. You don't have to throw it to him.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Bill, take your base. Really? Really? You're paying. But just go back to what they used to do, which is just deliberately pitch where he can't hit it, and say, well, I was trying to throw a strike. But I'm saying something different.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm saying you're a professional. Like, for example, you couldn't walk up to Randy Johnson. You couldn't walk up to Roger Clemens and these cats and go like this, yo, walk him. You couldn't do that. They'd look at you, you better get out my face. Right. It's me against him.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And I tell you why I feel this way, and I've never changed. One of the rare occasions, you got the National League against American League, and Barry Bonds came to Yankee Stadium. And I decide I'm gonna go as a fan, and I'm gonna roll up to this game. And you get stuck in traffic on the Deegan Expressway
Starting point is 00:13:40 in the Bronx, Cross Bronx Expressway, you pay $50 for parking, you pay your hot dogs, your popcorn, your soda, all of this other stuff, you sit in there and they walk them. It was driving me crazy. You wanted to see Barry Bonds hit. Every time they walked through? You wanted that practically every time. And you just looked at it and you said, no, you got to deal with Michael Jordan, you got to deal with LeBron James, you got to deal with Kobe, you got to deal with Patrick Mahomes, you got to deal with Tommy. You you gotta deal with LeBron James, you gotta deal with Kobe, you gotta deal with Patrick Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:14:05 you gotta deal with Thomas, you don't get to avoid them, you gotta find a way to defend against them. Okay, but again, I don't see how you can force people to throw a ball that they can't claim, hey, I was trying to throw a strike. I agree with you, but what I'm saying is, I've got 95, 100 mile per hour fastball. It's me against you
Starting point is 00:14:26 Let's go. All you can do is shame him into it. Yeah what you can strike out exactly, you know And that's what I'm saying, but that's not gonna work Yeah, but Barry Bonds like I was defended by your bonds like did he take steroids? Of course, you know all the sluggers did in that era. I mean, it's a shame, but I also think it's a bullshit argument. I've had this argument with Bob Costas many times. Like, everything changes in the game. You know, Babe Ruth didn't have to play against African Americans.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And the Mitz were like literally little Mitz. I mean, Babe Ruth's lifetime batting average is 342. If he played today, it would be 242. Or, it's not 292, I don't know, but it wouldn't be 342. He's a big fat guy. I agree with you. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:12 so the records don't bother him, the steroids thing doesn't bother me that much. And I remember Barry Bonds once said, can it be that I'm good? I'm just good. And like, with or without the steroids, he was good on a level few people were. That's where you go.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Here's where I'll go. This man was 30 and 30 for four steroids. He was good for 30 horns and 30 stolen bases. He was good to bat over 300. He was a hall, he was en route to the Hall of Fame. Then in 1994, when you stupidly canceled the World Series, Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa returned, and they revitalized the sport, 98.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm talking about this, Roger Maris' single-season home run record. They did all of this stuff, right? And they just galvanized the American public back to the sport of baseball. And you knew they were juiced up, okay? And Barry Bonds is like, oh, so this is how y'all doing? Oh, really? So it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:16:09 So you're sitting up there, because remember, in the Game of Shadows book, and the excerpts that were displayed in Sports Illustrated, they said that Barry Bonds essentially was using it because of all the attention that Mark McGuire and those guys were getting, and he already knew without it, he was better than them. So he said, all right, this is what you do.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Well, let me show you what I'm gonna do when I'm on it. And that's when he smacked 73 Home Runs. You see what I'm saying? So he was like, this is what I bring to the table, right? And I'm like, wait a minute. So he comes out there and he does what he does. All right. And you're saying it's because he was jealous of the attention that they were getting.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And I say, no, wasn't jealousy. He was saying, damn it, y'all supposed to know baseball. They couldn't shot my shoes. All they could do is hit. They hit or struck out. They hit a hole run or they struck out practically. He said, I was swinging on average. I was stealing bases.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I was a gold glover. I was good for 30 home runs a year. Seven time MVP. You understand, seven time MVP. And y'all acted like y'all didn't give a shit about me. Y'all thought they were better than me. Y'all were acting like they were better than me. And he said, I'ma show you,
Starting point is 00:17:23 if I use the same stuff they're using, this is what I could do. And sure enough, he did it. And I'm like, what's the problem? What's the, you gonna keep him out of the Hall of Fame? Everybody who acted like the players taking steroids hurt them so much. They didn't hurt you,
Starting point is 00:17:37 they hurt the guy who took the steroids. Their balls shrunk. Their mandible got enormous. Their heart probably got enlarged. It was not good for, it was not health food. It was a deal with the devil. And it made it entertaining. Look, I remember that 98 race so vividly, the Mark McGuire, right, and Sammy Sosa. Oh, absolutely. And I have a vivid memory. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Chase the 61. I was in San Francisco, of course with a girl. I'm right. I just remember. It would be wise. We were in a bar, as I always was in 1998. And I don't know where we were, but the TV was on in the bar. And I remember looking at the TV and seeing what happened.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I went, oh wow, McGuire hit 58 and 59. And I remember her going. He didn't give a shit. Well of course not. Was a girl in 1998. That's right. Well they do say chicks love the long ball, right? That's what they say all the time,
Starting point is 00:18:38 that's what they used to say. And I remember thinking like, you're so right, sports is such bullshit. I know it's your living and it's my past time. But it's like the things I could have done in my life with the time if I hadn't watched sports. Which I freak, you know, ask me who won the Super Bowl last year, I guess it was the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Okay, I remember that one. Yes it was, two time Super Bowl champion. Absolutely. But a year before that. Chiefs. Oh yeah, that's right, they're going for three feet. Back to back, yeah they're going for three feet. Back to back, yeah, they're going for three feet.
Starting point is 00:19:06 All right, but now before I forget, I want to tell you what I don't like about baseball. And it's something you can change. But here's what makes baseball, to me, so frustrating and so different than every other sport. Okay. The element of luck is enormous compared to any other sport.
Starting point is 00:19:26 In basketball, there is the occasional shot that's a shitty shot but still goes in. I'm sure Don Nelson's one that broke Jerry West's heart turned him into a caricature on that HBO show. I'm sure Jerry West went to his grave and said, I can't that shitty shot that went back. But that mostly isn't what happened. You either make the shot or you don't. And if you make it.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Patrick Ewing, finger roll, Indiana, missed it. Missed it. But mostly, if you hit it right, baseball, it's like 50-50 whether you will be rewarded or punished for doing the right thing. You sting the ball. It's a line drive, but it's right into the right fielder's. And then you hit a shitty blooper.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And it goes, you know. So like when you, if there was a way to reward, like oh wow, he got that pitch. That guy tried to throw a hundred mile an hour slider past him and he got it. And he got it right on the barrel. Well, I'm playing. That's what fucks up baseball.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I'm not getting rid of baseball for it and you can't get rid of that. But it is a lucky sport. I don't mind the luck element with sports. I mean, it comes with it. And I love baseball. No, I with it. And I love baseball. No, I like baseball. And I love baseball, you're right,
Starting point is 00:20:48 but I love baseball in person. Don't like it as much watching it on television. Me too. I love basketball either live or on television. I love football on television. Hate it live. There's nothing like a court seat at a basketball game. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Nothing. Right. Look, I've never been to a boxing match, like close up. Oh my goodness. I have. Maybe that's better. Right. Nothing. Right. I mean, look, I've never been to a boxing match like close up. Oh my goodness. I have. That, maybe that's better. Yes. I mean.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I bet you it is. They're punching each other. Listen, I went to, I had to cover the Mike Tyson, Andrew Galata fight years ago when he got out of jail and then, you know, he was fighting in Detroit, Michigan. I was there for that fight. I was there for the Oscar De La Hoya versus Fernando Vargas fight. I'm talking about in terms of ringside seats. Last July, not this past July, but July before that, Terrence Crawford going up against Errol Spence. That was the biggest fight, one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:21:37 fights that I was there for that. I didn't even know these people. I mean, they're like, because boxers, because of the promoters have messed up the sport. That's why you don't know enough about them, because Terrence Crawford's great. When we talk about a guy like Terrence Crawford, I need you to think about a Floyd Money Mayweather, a Sugar Ray Leonard, a Marvin Hagler, people like that. That's how great Terrence Crawford is, okay? And this was supposed to be a big fight, because Errol Spence was an undefeated welterweight champion,
Starting point is 00:22:03 and Terrence Crawford slaughtered him. I mean, just took him to school and beat him like he stole something. And you know, and I don't say, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I love Errol Spence, but that was an ass kicking. It really, really was. And when you see stuff like that, you know, Canelo Alvarez, Triple G. Sounds like what happened to the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:22:23 How about that? And you know what? Yeah, that was an ass-kicking. That was, if we're being honest about it, it was a thorough ass-kicking. Ain't no way around it, Bill. Oh, right. I mean, you know more politics than me, but damn it, yeah, a blind man can see the Democrats got their ass kicked.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, it was like, you know what? I like that analogy. Democrats similar to Terrence Crawford, Errol Smith Jr. Yep, that works. It was that kind of ass-kicking. It won't work on a lot of people like me who don't know who these people are. Why do you think it is that boxing became a sport
Starting point is 00:22:53 that I was always interested in when it was Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and even up to, who got his ear bit off? Mike Tyson, Holyfield. Tyson, Holyfield. Tyson, Holyfield. And it's been years. Is that because UFC? Combination of two. Number one, and I love the fact that you made that analogy
Starting point is 00:23:14 because the kind of ass-kicking that the Democrats just received is similar to a lot of that stuff. What do you think they should do about it? The Democrats? Yeah. How about having some, how about, listen, I like Westmore, Governor of Maryland, but you know, you have, to use your baseball analogy, you have no bullpen.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Who is it? Trump's been the Republican nominee since 2016. Yeah. Okay? It is clear that that's who conservatives want in the White House, okay? That's who they supported. They didn't give a damn about the 34 indictments. They didn't give a damn about two impeach supported. They didn't give a damn about 34 indictments.
Starting point is 00:23:46 They didn't give a damn about two impeachments. They didn't give a damn about all the legal issues and the law fit that Democrats engaged in. They said, Joe, that's who we want. This is the difference, and I said this to a lot of people, Bill. The conservatives said, we want that guy. That's who we want.
Starting point is 00:24:03 have said, we want that guy. That's who we want. And the voters decided who the Republican nominee is going to be. When you look at the Democrats, they didn't do it with Obama, that's true. Okay. But they greased the skids. This is the person we want, it's her turn.
Starting point is 00:24:20 It was Hillary's turn in 2016. All right, Biden- That's not Obama. Obama earned it. No, no, that's what I said. He earned it. But in 2016, and I'm not even trying to imply... They voted. Hillary ran in the primaries. I'm not even trying to imply that she... But remember, they were complaining
Starting point is 00:24:34 that Bernie Sanders had some momentum and was compromised by the Democratic Party because they were saying it was Hillary's turn. Remember that? Bernie Sanders, I love him, but he's too far left, and he would have been a bigger disaster than Kamala was. That's fine. But what I'm saying to you is still an all-Bill.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And I, shoot, I just read it, I disagree with you. What I'm saying is the only thing I will push back on is that's fine. But that's for the voter to decide. And a lot of times, the Democratic Party seems as if they've got their claws in the mix. Take Biden, for example. Okay, so, you know, Clyburn helps him get through South Carolina. He ultimately goes to the Democratic nomination.
Starting point is 00:25:16 He's the Democratic nominee for the president. He ultimately wins the election. There was supposed to be a red wave in 2022 in the midterms. The Republicans didn't pull that off. And Biden is feeling himself and saying, I ain't going anywhere. I told y'all I was going to be a transitional president. I told y'all I was going to be a one term dude. I'm just here as a stopgap. I paved the way for the future of a Democratic party. And then all of a sudden he in office takes that power. He was a veritable John the Baptist.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Just the guy who goes before. Come on, bro. Absolutely. Bill, the point is that your ass was gonna be 82 years old in the White House. Come on now. And I'll never forget this. Bill, I swear to you, I love your show, Real Time.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I'm a huge fan. I watch it every chance I get. I have never. No, real fans'm a huge fan. I watch it every chance I get. I have never. No, real fans watch it every week. You watch it every chance you get. I'm just fucking with you. That's just because I got multiple jobs. Here's the deal, Bill.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But I Tivo it. I mean, DVR it rather. Tivo. That Tivo, DVR. I'm gonna send you a telegram about that. In total, so here's the deal, man. I have never wanted to be on your show more than I wanted to be on your show when Biden announced that he was going to run for reelection.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Because I'm like this, what y'all going to say now? This is some straight bullshit. You got a situation where you won the midterm, you denied, you halted, you warded off the red wave, and you, knowing you're going to be 81 in election time, knowing you're going to be 82 in office, right? I'm sorry, it wasn't the midterm. It was when the State of the Union address took place. Your teen requested a ride, but this time not from you. It's through their Uber Teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today.
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Starting point is 00:29:28 From innovation to action, Sunnybrook is special. Learn more at sunnybrook.ca slash special. And I saw these people. Remember, the liberals, so when you call these progressives, oh, so you're looking forward with a dude that's going to be 82 and would leave office when he's 86 Really y'all I'm sitting there like you got to be shit me This is what you're talking about and I'm like, I knew I wasn't voting for Trump I knew that wasn't gonna happen, but I was saying to myself. What are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:29:59 What are you thinking this and then I looked at the bullpen? They had no one. They had no one. They had no one that could compete with Donald Trump. Well, not on a charisma level. Fair. OK, fair enough. But charisma is what gets you votes, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Absolutely. And I've said it a million times, insanity photographs. It really does. I mean, it's charismatic. But I have so many things that I must contend here with. Sure. One, you're an ageist. There are people who are completely crackling right at 82.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So it's always a case-by-case basis. Right, yeah. Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi don't have the problems that Biden have. I'm very supportive of Nancy Pelosi, you know, in terms of Nancy Pelosi, in terms of how sharp she is. I don't believe I'm an agist. Nancy Pelosi has lost a step in public also, to be perfectly honest.
Starting point is 00:30:53 But the job is never what you do in public. The job is done in the Oval Office. All you have to do is be... I never thought Biden couldn't do the job. The job is actually sitting in the Oval Office making decisions. He's not crazy. He hasn't lost his mind. He's not senile.
Starting point is 00:31:12 He just can't do the public part. He never could do it well and add the age thing and you're going to get things like I killed Medicare or whatever the fuck he said. By the way, Trump, no know, no one has been harder on Trump or more against Trump, blah, blah, blah. I don't have to establish my credentials. But he does do things once in a while that either make me genuinely laugh
Starting point is 00:31:36 or make me genuinely go, oh, that's good. Like when he said, in that debate, he once, well, he had a moment where he went, I don't know what he said. And then. Exactly! Right there! And I don't think he knows what he said, in that debate, he went, well he had a moment where he went, I don't know what he said. Exactly! And I don't think he knows what he said. I don't think he knows what he said. Or did we crack it up?
Starting point is 00:31:51 That's what people love about him. It's like he's crazy, but crazy people don't have the time to pretend about shit. That's why he can say shithole countries. You say the time. As if nobody else ever said shithole. Or thought that there say shithole countries. And everybody, as if nobody else ever said shithole. Or thought that there were shithole countries. But Bill, you say the time, I say the interest.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Like for example, so you walk into Club Random, okay? Let me let the audience know what Club Random is. Well, there's no audience. It's a conversation. That's what makes it so great. That's how it's watching out there. That's watching out there. Yeah, they're watching. Oh, that's watching, yes. It's watching, right? But it's no audience. It's a conversation. That's what makes it so great. That's how it is. It's watching out there.
Starting point is 00:32:25 That's watching out there. Yeah, they're watching. Oh, that's watching, yes. It's watching, right? But it's no bullshit. You're going to have a real conversation. You're going to have a real conversation. So real.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You're going to have a real conversation. That's why I'm here. I'm not wasting my time talking to somebody that's going to be a phony ass. I got better things to do all my time. No, you're exactly the kind of guest I like. You understand? Because you don't ever pretend. No, I don't ever pretend
Starting point is 00:32:48 Let me ask you this sure I read your bio, okay, you're black. Yep Trusting the research of my assistance if I'm wrong about this That is on them right someone's gonna lose their job, but that's what I read in the research Right, you're a black male. All right, so I was having this, you know, after the election, everybody's all talking. It's all they can talk about at dinner, at parties, even the Hollywood party. By the way, I'm lucid, I'm clear and all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:33:16 but I got a contact high and I'm a little tipsy. But I'm all right, but I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great. You're Lucifer. I'm lucid. Okay. Okay. And by the way, are you sure you don't want pot? Because you, I tell you, to me, your profile screams,
Starting point is 00:33:35 I would love this drug. I'm not saying... I will say this to you, Bill. I will tell you this. The day I smoke some pot, if I ever did it on camera, it will go viral. It would get about a billion views. Because as much as I've talked about staying off the weed,
Starting point is 00:33:51 even though I've only geared that towards professional athletes compromising their money, the bottom line is I've said it so much over the years, it would go viral. But anyway, go ahead and to your part. All right, I gotta ask you this question. So I'm at this party and there's like a lot of, I'm not gonna say the name, but what they would call bold face names.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And of course it's after the election, but this is Hollywood. And you know, I love Hollywood, I really do. I love living here and I love show business. And don't take it the wrong way. But the people here, they're loaded with talent. They're not loaded with smartest person in the room. Right. You know.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I'm not saying they're complete idiots. Some, and there are some very smart people in the business, some brilliant people. But mostly, what they got was talent. So they're talking about the election. Of course, they all wanna talk to me, because they're like, oh, that kid actually knows shit. Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:34:47 You do. You do, Bill. You know, OK. So they're like, you know, of course, they're all upset about Trump, as if their life is going to change. One now. Like, you know, let me tell you, for the last year,
Starting point is 00:34:59 people have been coming up to me at the nicest restaurants in Hollywood, because that's the only place I go, because I'm a baller. You know this, Steve or they. Okay, so it's like, oh Bill, what are we gonna do if Trump wins? I'm like, you know what you're gonna do? Go back and finish your $900 dinner for four people.
Starting point is 00:35:16 That's what you're gonna do. And your taxes are probably gonna go down like the first time, and everything else you can give a shit about. They don't realize, they make it hard on people like yourself and me who will vote liberal. But we're sensible. We're not extreme. We're not extreme.
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's why the election was lost. You woke. Now you can't, don't get me wrong, inflation, immigration, of course, but that woke culture, they took it too far. You gotta watch my show. I know you don't get to see it always. You have to see it Friday. This past Friday?
Starting point is 00:35:52 No, this coming Friday. Because my end piece is why I'm mad at the Democrats for just what you're talking about. I should stay for the damn show. But rather than flying out, I should stay. I was planning on leaving Friday. Watch it in person. I should come to the damn show. Oh, flying out, I should stay. I was planning on leaving Friday. Watch it in person. I should come to the damn show just to watch it.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Just to watch it. That'd be awesome. Just to watch it. You can heckle it. Absolutely. You can yell at the screen. I'll do it. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'll do it. Now Trump's impressed. Now Trump's rising. I can make that joke. Very rude, very nasty question. You didn't even say hello. I couldn't make that joke under Biden. Now I can make that joke.
Starting point is 00:36:27 All right, so here's the thing. There are all these white boys who are talking to me about Trump. He's a terrible racist. It's like, well, how could the black people vote for him more than each time? They didn't vote for him a lot more, but men did. Right, men did. Okay. And I said, you know what? I don't want to speak for all black people, and this is where I need to tell you.
Starting point is 00:36:44 You tell me if I was wrong or right. I said, you know what? I don't want to speak for all black people, and this is where I need to tell you. You tell me if I was wrong or right. OK. I said, you know what I think black people think about Trump? Like, is he a racist? Yeah, but they think every white person is kind of a racist. And do they think that white people behind closed doors talk like Trump?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, he's just a crazy person. That last part right there. That last part right there. It's not that. It's not that. He just says's just a crazy person. That last part right there. That last part right there. It's not that... He just says it out loud in person. As black people, I don't want to speak for all black people, whatever. No. Obviously I'm...
Starting point is 00:37:13 Because they're not all alike. That's right. Exactly. But I will say this to you. As, you know, being a black man, you don't look at white people and automatically think they're racist. You automatically know they're different than you, that they think different than you, that they come from a different cultural background and experience things differently than they do. So that second part is very, very important because when you talk about how Trump talks, we're going like this. So that's the first time he talked like that when he became president.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Who the fuck you think you playing with? We know better than that. We know better than that. We know that ain't the first time and we know that the people that he was friends with all of these years, he talked just like that around y'all and y'all didn't have no problem with it. Don't act like you have a problem now.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And also had some genuine black friends and black folks who like him. Well, let me tell you this. I don't know if I told you. Because it's complicated. Life is complicated. I wouldn't call myself his friend by any stretch of the imagination back in the day. Right. But I've told this on many occasions. I said this in my recent appearance on The View and stuff like that. Trump and I were friendly.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right. Before he ran for president. He used to have these boxing matches, particularly during the Tyson fights at the Trump casinos. He would be at the Knicks games and stuff like that. And if we're being totally honest, all the brothers found him to be cool. Right. They found him to be very cool.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So it does make sense because he knew his sports, all right? He would say what he feel. He bucked the establishment, which we loved, and we gravitated to that. And obviously he was a billionaire. And also he was a certain age. And it was cool. And you get a certain understanding
Starting point is 00:38:55 that men, white men of that age, they're going to be a little grandpa. We don't say that anymore. But is he really in his heart hateful? No, I think he's never. I don't think his motivation is, I don't say that anymore. But is he really in his heart like hateful? No, I think he... I don't think his motivation is, I don't like black people. I think his motivation is, everybody must love me.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Thank you. And that's right there. What you just said, everybody must love me. It's his narcissism. It's not his racism. I have never called him a racist. I have never spoken about him that way, ever. Not one time, not one time, because I knew him beforehand. And he called me in 2014.
Starting point is 00:39:31 This is a true story. He says, Stephen A had a secretary, Mr. Trump is on the line, et cetera, gets on the line. He says, Stephen A, I'm trying to buy the Buffalo Bills. Price tag was $1.4 billion. What year? 2014. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:48 All right? 2013, 2014. The price tag was 1.4 billion. He had about 1.1 billion. I was being told he wasn't gonna get the T. He said, quote, Steven A, if these motherfuckers get in my way, talking about the NFL owners, if these motherfuckers get in my way, talking about the NFL owners, if these motherfuckers get in my way,
Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm gonna get them all back. I'm gonna run for president. That's what he said. And some NFL official said, so it's our fault. Years later, they said, so it's our fault. And I went like this, uh, yeah, because had he gotten on the other Buffalo Bills, he would have been an NFL owner.
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Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm a bachelor. Happy cooking and happy holidays. If you remember, sports gaming hadn't yet been ruled on by the Supreme Court. That wasn't until around 2018. If you get a half a point, a half a percentage point, that translates into billions for owners. And Trump was making the case and hijacked the whole Colin Kaepernick fiasco just to get the owners back. I'm telling you what I know.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Just to get them back. To get in the way of them getting a hold of their money because they got in the way of him owning the Buffalo Bills. And I said, yo, yo, I'm telling you what I know. I said this on my show, First Take on the ESPN. I said it on the airwaves all over the place. Every interview, I said, yo, y'all, he called me. I'm telling you what I know.
Starting point is 00:43:35 He's going to get him back. And that's what it was about. It's fascinating. It's newsworthy. And it's completely consistent with what we know about how he conducts foreign affairs. I mean, he had a call supposedly, Putin denies it, but I don't know what that's all about. Like they're going to admit some stuff that we know about?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, and Zelensky. And like, he's probably not, he says he's going to get a great deal out of Putin. I don't know how he's going to get a great deal because Putin already knows that Trump has a hard-on for Ukraine all because of the same kind of petty grievances in the past. So again, that is always the motivating thing, this sort of narcissism. I've said it a million times. People talk about narcissism like it's some sort of quirk. It's not a quirk. It's like... It's serious when it comes to him.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's... I keep trying to tell people... If it was bipolar, people would be alarmed because that word, oh my god, it's similar. Let me make a little news here. Black people, minorities in this country that called him a racist, did him a favor when they did that. Interesting. They did him a favor because it galvanized his base to say, oh, we don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Look at the economy. Look at the borders. Look at crimes in the streets of America. We don't want to hear that. And he's able to easily dismiss that because on too many occasions you saw him on camera very comfortable with minorities. So because of that, the visual that you talk about, it played a role because he knew he had a portfolio of appearances with black folks
Starting point is 00:45:29 throughout decades where you had no problem with him then. How all of a sudden you're going to bring up rent control issues in 1973. That's not going to work. That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. If you're gonna bring up him in the 1970s, when his daddy owned apartment complexes and minorities was in those complexes, then don't you have to bring up Biden and his relationship with Senator Byrd?
Starting point is 00:45:56 You know what I'm saying? Who was from West Virginia, who died at the age of 97, that was in office until he was about 97, who by the way was a former member of the Ku Klux Klan. You have to bring that up. Don't you have to bring up the 90s when you had the Congressional Black Caucus, and you talking about the crime bill that Clinton pushed through
Starting point is 00:46:16 that Biden was so vociferous about? You have to bring this stuff up, or you're going to bring up Trump in the 70s. So I'm listening to people, and I'm like, are you trying to win, or or you just trying to make noise? Because he's going to get past this. That strategy is not going to work. But that is one of the big things Democrats should be looking in the mirror, as I keep saying about, is that they don't call out their own. And by the way, I've lost a lot of fans.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I've gained a lot, too. And I lost a lot who just don't want to abide somebody who is making any sort of critique of the left. Sorry, I just fell. Did you just? Just fell. Sorry. Was that back there for years?
Starting point is 00:47:02 I don't know. I don't know. Man, I got to tell you, man, as an aside, this is very comfortable. I love doing this. I love doing it with you. I love doing this, man. I mean, this is the only time I drink on camera. Me too. This is the only time I drink on camera.
Starting point is 00:47:17 We're birds of a feather. But, okay, but like, take for this, for example, Doug Emhoff. Yep. The first, supposedly, or on a verge of being the first man. Yes, that guy. The first man was Adam. Well, you know what I'm saying. He would be the first gentleman. You know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:47:32 The first gentleman. They have a title for him. My bad. My bad. First gentleman. The first gentleman. OK. And someday there will be one.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And there could have been one by now. But the Electoral College stopped Hillary. I mean, she got more votes than him. So you can't say, oh, Americans wouldn't vote for a woman. They did. They did. The popular vote. It gave her the majority.
Starting point is 00:47:53 2.6. She's not president because people hate women in this country. She's not president because of the electoral college. Which, by the way, diluted Obama's argument talking to black men about Kamala Harris. Hillary Clinton got 2.686 million more popular votes than Trump. She lost the Electoral College vote, but she won the popular vote. In the case of Kamala Harris, it's like, wait a minute, what are you talking about misogyny, chauvinism?
Starting point is 00:48:20 I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that. I love Obama. Love him. Vote for him twice. Me too. Don't want to hear that. He's my want to hear that. I love Obama. Love him. Vote for him twice. I don't want to hear that. He's my favorite. Yeah, yeah. He's my favorite. Because he's a practical centrist. And a good man. And also, like, did the most difficult thing,
Starting point is 00:48:34 getting elected the first black president, and then, like, giving them nothing to, like, get him on. Zero. For eight years. When you know that they were looking so hard and he had to be, talk about like Caesar's wife. Hold on, hold on. I don't wanna objectify anybody. That's easy to do when you got a first lady
Starting point is 00:48:55 that look like that. Oh stop it. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I mean we're being real right? We're being real right? I'm just saying. You know that Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah, she is. It's real easy to avoid giving folks ammunition when you're coming home to that lady. I feel like you're really over-emphasizing that point. I mean, she's an attractive woman, and I don't think that made any difference in anything, because I think there was some percentage of people who just did not like the idea of a black family eating off the good China. I'm not going to objectify the former First Lady
Starting point is 00:49:31 of the United States. What I will say to you is this, though. The backdrop of that, respectfully, the Gary Hartz of the world, the John Edwards of the world, former presidential candidates on the Democratic side, whose dalliance is, whose behavior... Wainer. I'm just saying, Wainer's...
Starting point is 00:49:47 Clinton. I'm just saying, Clinton, of course. But I'm just talking about, at that time, before Trump, that derailed you from the White House. Right. See, Obama preceded Trump. That's the only reason I bring up Michelle Obama. Because the thing that could bring you down,
Starting point is 00:50:01 that could get you in the throes of controversy was your behavior, and obviously those individuals got themselves in trouble. Because the thing that could bring you down, that could get you in the throes of controversy, was your behavior, and obviously those individuals got themselves in trouble, and Obama didn't. John Edwards was fucking his filmographer. How about that? And there's a tape of him going down on her when she was pregnant.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I didn't know that. Because everyone loves to see a politician kiss a baby. That's a little bit, that's a little bit. Oh, my God. I got it, I got it. I'm not going there. One of my favorite jobs. I'm not going there, okay? Okay, but Doug Emhoff,
Starting point is 00:50:34 listen to my point about the Democrats. They just countenance no self-reflection or no critique of their own. And that's why a lot of them hate me. And they go fuck themselves. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, because first of all, I was right. I warned them about Trump first off,
Starting point is 00:50:54 more than anybody at the, especially for- You were the first to warn this country about that he wasn't gonna leave office. And I was right and warned them about what was going to get him re-elected. Your stupid, over-the-top wokeness. They hate that. So, and they just will not countenance
Starting point is 00:51:13 any sort of self-reflection. Doug Emhoff, okay, was credibly accused, I'm not saying it's true, we never know in these cases, but was credibly accused during the campaign by a woman of being rough with her. Yes. If it was Trump they would have been all over it. I mean if it was any Republican. If it was any Republican they would have been all over it. I mean it's not that different than what Brett Kavanaugh or these and it's like it just didn't and on Saturday Night Live a guy plays
Starting point is 00:51:41 Doug Emhoff but he's just funny, kind of weird, nerdy Doug. You don't bring up any of that. It's like nothing to see here because you shut in to only watch MSNBC. We'll never hear about it anyway. So we just don't know. And it's like, you know, look what it got you. The only defense I have against that is that he wasn't running for office. She was.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So in that regard, fine, Trump is running for office. She was. So in that regard, fine. Trump is running for office, he's not. It's his wife. But having said that, the bottom line, had that been a Republican, you would have pounced. See, again, again, again. Everybody would have pounced. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I know the guys. I've known Sean Hannity for 20 years. Megyn Kelly, I'm a fan of him. By the way, I love y'all conversation, y'all back and forth. I have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly. I'm a fan of them. By the way, I love y'all conversation, y'all back and forth. I have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly. I think that she's smart. She's on it.
Starting point is 00:52:29 She's smart. She's wrong about Trump. She could be wrong, but she's fact. At least she has a fact. At least she owned it. When I said to her, you know, we'll see if you guys theory that he just says shit. We'll see if that doctrine comes true.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And she didn't go, fuck you. She went, yeah, you know, it's possible. Right. And I appreciate that. Now, what I say to those kind of people now is, if it does turn out that his, he just says shit doctrine is more than just talk, will you admit it? Did you see what she said about you?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Will you admit it? Did you see what she said about you, Megyn Kelly? Because let me tell you what she said about you. She said basically the same thing you said about her. Very attractive. She respected where you came from, she respected your position, she didn't think that you were right,
Starting point is 00:53:17 but it was a healthy debate, et cetera. Because to be honest with you, the kind of conversation you two had, see I don't consider myself on that level because I'm not as knowledgeable about politics as either one of you but I look at her and the conversation that she had with you and I'm like this that's what the hell I want a damn presidential debate to be. First of all I think you know what time it is. I do. Time to go. No. But you know, she's not really my type, but she's pretty hot. I like, you know, I mean, she's not your type, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I like thick women. I like Michelle Obama. I like Michelle Obama. It's like you just- That's a different level. You can imagine that that political passion, if just somehow turned. Right. How about that?
Starting point is 00:54:03 How about that? And, you know- Use your imagination. I'm telling you, you know- I understand. passion if just somehow it turned. Right. How about that? How about that? And you know. Use your imagination. I'm telling you, you know. I understand. I think every man, no, maybe not every man. Not every man, but most.
Starting point is 00:54:12 But most. But most. Knows that, you know. Most heterosexuals. You can get a woman in a good mood with sex. Let's just put it that way. They're in a bad mood. Or you could get them're in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Or you could get them in a very bad mood if you don't handle your business. You gotta get the job done. Let's just call it what it is. You gotta get the job done. Absolutely. If you pass out some weak shit, that's gonna really. That's a wrap. That's a wrap.
Starting point is 00:54:38 You gotta handle your business. You gotta handle your business. I'm fully aware of this. I'm fully aware. No. I'm fully aware. No, that's something I learned in my 20s. In 20s, it's hard to stop a hard-on from happening. But a couple of times, you're like, I was nervous or something, and I just did not perform well.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And like, no. And let's quote, can we be honest? And that was like, that was a wrap. Can we be honest, this man? Like, there's no second. When you don't handle your business, right? There's one or two things that happen. You either don't, you're either not equipped enough to handle your business, or you know,
Starting point is 00:55:15 you're a bit fast, you're a bit fast. You're in and you're out, you understand what I'm saying? You don't handle your business. And either way does not work. But the woman, I'm saying. But if you handle your business, it's amazing the profound impact that you can have. If you don't handle your business, trust me, in the future you will be handling your business. How about that? You will be doing it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Because I'm saying the woman in this question, I would not make generalizations about all women except for this one. If you don't do it right the first time, there is no second time. This happened twice to me. I don't need it to happen more. I'm not. Bill? You do not. And I don't blame them. They're like, why would it be better the second time? We on Club Rend? And maybe it would. We on Club Rend. Actually, it would be better because I wouldn't be maybe so nervous. Or maybe I'd be like Aaron Judge.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'd be like, oh my gosh, if I blow the World Series again, it's going to be even worse. We are on Club Random. Because that is true with athletes. Like the more the pressure, the more you suck, the more the pressure builds. I must confess. Right?
Starting point is 00:56:22 I must confess, Bill. It's only happened on a couple of occasions. But there were a couple of occasions, Bill, where, dare I say, I didn't handle my business. Everybody fails one. I mean, it was like, yo, I mean, you know. And the commercial came on and it was over, and the commercial was over and I was done. I mean, it was quick. I mean, Bill know, the commercial came on and it was over and the commercial was over and I was done.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I mean, it was quick. I mean, building has happened, okay? But they were kind enough to give me a second chance. Oh, really? And I made it happen. That is true. I mean, I can't deny that. It's not. I can't deny that. You will get a second. I'm talking about not really being able to perform
Starting point is 00:57:08 because whatever your nervousness or whatever, just bug got in your dick. But there's a difference between that and coming too soon. When I was young, I remember that happening. That can be almost a compliment. I remember once having sex with a girl and then we watched our favorite show, 59 Minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. It's some other. 59 Minutes. She was done in 60 seconds. Some other comic. I've never been that bad. That's some other comic. I've never been that bad.
Starting point is 00:57:36 That's some other comic's joke. I can't remember who from back in my early days and showing up, but it was a funny joke. Yeah. But yeah, that can be forgiven, because it's almost complementary that you've caught you. But you gotta remember, Bill, as a man, you don't know if that woman is going to find that forgiving until she does. Oh, no, you don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So as a result, you like pray, like, oh, God, I hope she give me a second chance because she's just gonna go out and talk about, oh, he wasn't shit. You don't know. He was know, you don't want that reputation You don't know anything that they're thinking when you're young like now if I talk to a girl in her 20s I know exactly what she's thinking When I was that age with the advent of you that's right and our time but in it with the advent of social media You're damn right. You know what they thinking now Hell yes in your 20s. Hell, you know what they thinking now. Hell yes, in your 20s.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Hell you know what they thinking in their teenage years. It's bad out there, bro. What are you saying, because they put it all on social media? Because they put everything on social media. Yeah, but are they being honest on social media? Okay, that's fine, but a lot of people believe they're being honest, so when they talk shit about you, what is their belief?
Starting point is 00:58:40 You're stuck with the reputation. I think what they're putting out on social media is just this sort of fog screen of the life they want you to think they're living. Right, that's fair. It's just, I mean that's one reason why that generation is so fucked up. And it's also convoluted because there are those of us
Starting point is 00:59:00 who have social media accounts, who have YouTube channels, who have podcasts, et cetera. We've done it, we've been in the business. We've accomplished what we've accomplished. But it's convoluted by an abundance of people who haven't accomplished shit and are using social media to come across as if they have accomplished something. And it's hard for the audience at times to dissect who's who unless they really, really know you.
Starting point is 00:59:23 They know Bill Maher, they know Stephen A. They don't know a lot of people. But that generation, there's so many ways to be rich and either sort of famous or famous for a minute by doing nothing, crypto, influencer. It's no wonder that none of these kids, like really, you know, I guess this is, you know, because I live in LA and I see this sort of world of NEPO babies and trust fund kids when you're out. Right. That like
Starting point is 00:59:56 I loved your new rules on NEPO babies by the way. Oh, that's because that was about sports. You did a great job on that. I on that one. I was nice. Thank you did a great job I love that one. Yes started here in a conversation with Bob Costas and Ronnie James yeah is the one who fucked it up Yeah, because the point of it for people who didn't see it is that sports the last place where you can have trust that it's not Nepal babies like Everything else even modeling now Nepal babies where you can have trust that it's not Neppo babies. Like everything else, even modeling now, Neppo babies.
Starting point is 01:00:30 But certainly politics always was, show business is rife with them. Everything is Neppo babies except sports. You could always count on the fact that the best, the 600 players in the NBA were the best in the world, not just in America. And Ronnie James is not one of the 600 best players. Let me, first of all, I agree with you. Let me tell you what the real problem was with the whole Bronny James things.
Starting point is 01:00:56 And I love this kid and I love his- Not against him. Not against him, his mama, his, listen, LeBron James won the top two players in the history of basketball. He's on the Mount Rushmore basketball. He's absolutely amazing, okay? And a good dude as well.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Let me explain where they messed up about Bronny. LeBron James has done so much for this league. Him wanting the moment of being in an NBA game with his son is not the crime. Here's what the crime was, Bill. You have that moment on opening night. At that moment, Bronnie James, you know, you belong in the G league. Go to the G league.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Right. You know why you here. Listen, this was important to my dad. My dad is phenomenal. He's done so much to the G League. You know why you here. Listen, this was important to my dad. My dad is phenomenal. He's done so much to the game. And the one thing that he dreamed of having was me on a basketball court for an NBA game with him. Ladies and gentlemen, now that I got this moment,
Starting point is 01:01:59 it's time for me to go and earn my stripes. I didn't earn it at USC because I wasn't there long enough. Right, I'm a high school All-American averaging 14 points a game, right, which is better than most of us, by the way, but still, high school All-Americans usually are doing more than that. All Bronnie James had to do,
Starting point is 01:02:16 and I understand that that's a lot to put on a kid that's 19 years old or so, but all Bronnie James had to do was say, now it's time for me to go to the G League, y'all. I gotta earn my stripes. Then a Bill Maher and others can't come out and say what they said. But because he was soaking it all in, right? And one game after another, you're traveling with the team, you're in uniform, and you're taking up one of those roster spots. Now it brings in the question of meritocracy and what was religiously associated with the NBA,
Starting point is 01:02:54 which is why your point was not only on point because factually you were correct, but your timing was impeccable. See, you didn't wait. You know, it wasn't like six months later or anything. No, you were right there, week one. Like, wait a minute, y'all. Wait a minute now. Let's not act like, and you were right.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Two years ago. Yeah. I even said in the piece, it's funny, I even said in the piece, everybody wants to see Ronnie James in the league with his father. So you spoke about Ronnie James two years ago. Two years ago.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I didn't know that, Bill. I didn't know that. That's when I did that piece, and I said, everyone wants to see it, but he won't make it unless he's good enough. And then they fucked that up. And I even mentioned Doc Rivers kid plays, but not because he's Doc Rivers kid.
Starting point is 01:03:41 But Austin Rivers. Because he's good enough to play in the league. Austin Rivers was good enough to play in the league. Austin Rivers was good enough to be on an NBA roster, especially defensively. And coming out of Duke, playing at Duke, and being drafted, he earned those stripes. No, he was an NBA player. He was an NBA player.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Not a superstar, but an NBA player. Yes, he was. Absolutely true. So look, the 12th guy on the team, does he play anyway? No. But he just, it adulterated something that was pure. And then the last thing that was pure. And by the way, I gotta say the Lakers, it made me just think the Lakers,
Starting point is 01:04:17 first they take a season where they just give it up to a farewell to Kobe. Kobe, who earned it? Come on. What? Really? Take a season where they just give it up to a farewell to Kobe. Kobe. Who earned it? Come on. Really? You earned the team giving you a season of… Because you had nothing else.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It's not… But shouldn't you start trying to rebuild something else? What I'm saying is they were cap strapped. They had a lot of errors that they had made with the Jim Busse error because he was busy at Hooters instead of running the fucking team. But the point that I'm trying to make to you is that, it looked bad, that was true. But in the same breath, every team,
Starting point is 01:04:50 once they win a number of championships, ultimately decline. Because once that wears off, you don't get good draft picks, you're not in good draft positions, you're not necessarily getting those free agents. So that was totally different. That was totally different. But you know what phrase I've heard enough of
Starting point is 01:05:06 for a lifetime is, I gave to the game. You know what? You gave to you. No one's putting a gun to your head and making you play. And you didn't play for free. And you barely played for free. Yes, you sacrificed your body. That was your choice.
Starting point is 01:05:21 By the way, as an aside, before I forget, you know who watches this podcast? Commissioner Adam Silver. When I was here last time. He's been a long time. When I was here last time he was the first call I received. No. When you posted the podcast my last appearance he was the first call I received he loved it. There's a guy who watches every week real-time he loves that. No I know I love Adam Silver and I think he's done an amazing job. He has. Yeah, he has. And it's not an easy job because players
Starting point is 01:05:50 are very different than they were 20 years ago. Even coaches say, you can't yell at this generation of players. Right. I think you can. I think personally you can. You better have a lot of stature. There you go, there you go.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You're Eric Spolster, you're Steve Kerr. People like that, you can yell at players. If you're a coach with significantly less cash, you better shut the fuck up. You better tread lightly. Otherwise it's gonna be a problem. So Aaron Rodgers was here. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:21 But I don't know. I love Aaron Rodgers. I do too. But he's having an awful season. Awful. It's just as a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, and Jets too. I mean, when I was a kid, people always say, we were Giants or a Jets fan.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I said, we were both. Why wouldn't we be? We were in New York area, that would know the teams. Why shouldn't I avail myself? We were thrilled when Joe Namath won it in 69. But it's a damn shame that they haven't won since 89. I learned football watching the Giants on my father's knee. If I had to pick, it would be the Giants first,
Starting point is 01:06:52 because there's a sentimental value. I took my father to the Super Bowl when it was out here in 86 against the Broncos in Pasadena, using my last bit of checking account money to get him out here and get a ticket to that game, nosebleed seats, but we were, but he was a giant fan since they were inception practically. So, you know, but we had such hopes for the Jets and you know, is it just that time caught up
Starting point is 01:07:21 because they thought they had a great roster? Aaron Rodgers, respectfully Aaron Rodgers fucked up Here's how this happened in Green Bay He is spectacular. I think that Aaron Rodgers is one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL Four time MVP. As a talent. That's a lot. That's a lot of MVP for him. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:07:46 But he hasn't been back to the Super Bowl since he won it in 2010. Yeah, not all his fault. So of course not. Of course not. But what I'm saying is that when you're in Green Bay, you're letting everybody know that the organization doesn't appreciate you enough.
Starting point is 01:08:04 They don't appreciate you enough. They don't appreciate your football IQ. They don't appreciate your evaluation of talent. They don't appreciate your greatness that you've displayed at Lambeau Field, on the football field for them for over a decade. And you say, you've given every indication you want to be appreciated.
Starting point is 01:08:22 You want to be respected. You want to be given the level of deference that others, to say Tom Brady's the Peyton Man, is John Edwards of the world, and others have received. And the Jets give it to you. And this is the result. Now last year doesn't count because you got hurt the fourth play of the game.
Starting point is 01:08:41 The fourth play of the game. Yeah, yeah. Game one of the NFL season. You can't control getting injured and all of this other stuff. But you've been there this year, and your offense has sucked. And oh, by the way.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Why? Well. What is it that, what went wrong? I think they had a defensive mind of coach Roger Salah that you didn't have an offensive mind, and you deferred to Aaron Rodgers. You deferred to what he said he defer to what he said he needed, what he said he wanted, what he said would work,
Starting point is 01:09:10 and then you went out and got your ass kicked. Now that's where it hurts. Now if you had an offensive mind. But why doesn't Aaron Rodgers know? He knows as well as anybody. Like he couldn't be an offensive coordinator in the league right now. You have people who believe, Bill,
Starting point is 01:09:25 like you have producers and editors and stuff like that working on your podcasts and your shows. Yeah, you're the last say, but you're gonna know how and when to be deferential. If you are somebody like an Aaron Rodgers who was never in a position where anybody had to be that way towards you, and then suddenly you're empowered.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Now it becomes a bit tricky because ultimately you want to make all the damn decisions. Now he'll deny it, but nobody believes him. Nobody believes, like for example, Woody Johnson, the former ambassador to the great Britain, by the way, under the Trump administration, also suddenly he comes back to the Trump, suddenly he comes back to the New York Jets as the owner. He takes over from his brother, who he relinquished control to for the time that he was being the ambassador to the Great Bidder.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Suddenly he's gonna come back in the folder. He's gonna say, yo, I'm gonna fire Robert Sala, whatever, whatever, talking to Aaron Rodgers. Nobody believes that. Alan Lazar comes from Green Bay to the New York Jets. You had nothing to do with that? Nobody's gonna believe that. You think Devonte Adams coming to the New York Jets, you had nothing to do with that? Nobody's gonna believe that. You think Devontae Adams coming to the New York Jets,
Starting point is 01:10:26 all right, after not being there, and depart from Green Bay to be with the Los Angeles? We know you had something to do with that. Plainly, Aaron Rodgers was playing General Manager of the Jets. Without question. And that's where his legacy is going to be heard. That's interesting, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:41 So you're saying they gave too much power. No, I'm not saying they did, because I would have given it to him too. I'm saying once he got it, he messed up Like we got a call balls and strikes at the end of the day. They weren't wrong for giving him the power You were wrong with the decisions you made once you had the influence the influence that you swore you deserved and when you got it You didn't produce results. Boy, being an athlete is like being a hot chick. I mean, it goes fast.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Like, you have your peak where all the guys are buzzing around you. What? I gotta admit to you, bro, I see some honeys out here that's in their 50s looking better than honeys in their 20s and 30s. I can't say that, Bill. That's still ridiculous, but okay.
Starting point is 01:11:27 That's not ridiculous! It is ridiculous. Bill, there's some sisters. I'm gonna speak for some of the black women out here. Maybe in the picture in Us Magazine, but come on, let's get real. This is Club Random. I mean, the corruption of the flesh happens to us all.
Starting point is 01:11:43 We're just not as physically attractive In our 50s as in our 20s. In our 20s you have to almost work to not be Can I ask you a personal question? Uh oh Can I ask you a personal question? Do you? I mean we on Club Randa right? We on Club Randa Do you like voluptuous women? No
Starting point is 01:12:02 You don't? No Really? No What's wrong with you? Am Iuous women? No. You don't? No. Really? No. What's wrong with you? What am I, am I under oath? No, I don't. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:12:09 I mean, I gotta take a drink on that. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? I mean, hips, thighs, legs, ass. Alright, I'll say it. I'm white. Okay, so you like them real thin. You like them real thin and skinny.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I like what they call an athletic body, swimmer's body. Yes. I mostly fuck small boys. Oh my god. Oh my god. That's ridiculous. I'm just saying to you. I'm not saying most, because you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:12:34 For the most part, you're absolutely right. But I got to tell you, there's some women out here in their 40s and 50s that look better than they looked when they were in their 20s and 30s. To you. Everything is to you or to me. But I find that ridiculous. I mean, it's certainly not. I wish I could put them on first so I could show you the evidence. Because I have evidence, Bill. Evidence. I've seen your evidence. I know you got a heart on from Michelle Obama
Starting point is 01:13:03 and it's great that you have your thing. I don't have a heart on from Michelle Obama and it's great that you have your thing because... I don't have a hard on for her. I mean, she's just... Well, I mean, I'm just saying she's a beautiful woman. She's a beautiful woman. Yes, I agree. But, you know, they... But Picasso used to sleep with very young women and, you know, they tried to come after him about that.
Starting point is 01:13:17 They should have. And his... I'm sure they should have if they were underage. Yes. But his response was, I'm an artist! I think I know what beauty is, okay? Get out of my studio.
Starting point is 01:13:30 And you know, look, I look at pictures of myself when I'm younger. I'm better looking. I'm sorry, I can't pretend. I will say this to you. For me, can I speak about me personally? I definitely feel that way about me in my 20s. Me in my 30s and my 40s,
Starting point is 01:13:46 I think I look better now than I did then. And then I looked over the last 20, 25 years. You're the luckiest guy in the world. I am very lucky. If you like women in that age range, because you're getting the best of both worlds. If you find them the most attractive, they're also like, of course, easier to deal with usually
Starting point is 01:14:06 because they're more world-seasoned, smarter. So with older women? Yes. Oh, we don't agree on that. They're not world- I will accept the fact- They're not smarter? No, no, they're definitely smarter.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Okay. I'm talking the easier to deal with. Oh, hell to the no. Well, not if you get it. Hell to the no. I mean easier to deal with in the sense of like, girls who are 20 are like, you know, my pussy is golden. And girls who are 50 are like, are we going to do it or what?
Starting point is 01:14:35 I find. But you missed. But it's like, here's where you messed up. Here's where you messed up. You missed the 30s and the 40s where they do think it's golden. Like, ain't nothing better than this, okay? And it's like, you do understand there's a billion out there
Starting point is 01:14:54 that could potentially be better. You do understand. So you never got married, right? Never. Me neither. Never. We're like the last two. I will say to you that eventually I think I will because it's more than being single
Starting point is 01:15:09 and being able to, you know, sex whoever I want. I'm beyond that. I'm beyond that. I've had my promiscuous years and they were lovely. I must say. Why do they have to end? Let's get a toast to that. Let's get a toast to that.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Why do they have to end? It really, really was lovely. And I can say that respectfully because I wasn't a liar. I wasn't one of those dudes that was a liar. I would let somebody know, look, this is where I'm at. If you're with me, this is what you get. I'm not that dude. But I will tell you. I still don't know why we have to bury Lovely. But I will tell you that, you know, when you get older, yes, you know, there is something to be said about,
Starting point is 01:15:52 you know, that companionship, that person that you want to be around. Oh, I'm very different. And here's the biggest thing for me, and I don't know whether you agree with me or not, but I'm interested in hearing how you feel about this. Bill, to me, and I had to tell my little nephew, his ignorant ass, because he just doesn't know anybody,
Starting point is 01:16:09 he's clueless, but I'm here for him. He's about 35, my nephew, Josh. I thought I heard, he's picturing a 10 year old. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's ignorant as shit. But I love him to death, he's like a son to me, but he's my nephew. And I'm like, here's what happens. You get to a point, and I say to him,
Starting point is 01:16:28 forget the woman that excites you. It's the woman you're comfortable being bored with. I could not disagree more. Really? Yeah. You really feel that way? I not only feel that way, I feel like I've learned that lesson the hard way.
Starting point is 01:16:47 You can pretend that that's the thing. I remember when I got to a certain age and I thought, oh yeah, you know what? I'm not needing to have sex 24-7 anymore. Sex is great, but no, I could be a thousand years old, and even if it's just one minute a week, it's still, water flows downhill. It's just the heart wants what it wants. I don't know. I agree with that part.
Starting point is 01:17:15 It's just the glue that holds things together. For me, anyway, and when you don't have the glue, I've told this story before, but I said to a girl once, you know, it's like the relationship is the plane and the sex is the fuel. Hold on, let's not, let me not mess up with your audience by acting like I was talking about sex being boring. That is not what I was talking about. I'm not talking about the sex,
Starting point is 01:17:40 the sex got to be what it needs to be. I'm talking about you upstairs watching Law and Order. She's downstairs watching whatever. It doesn't matter to you, is what I'm saying. You don't have to be under one another. You see, I'm saying the sex has to be good. There has to be a level of compatibility. That's when you should be under one another.
Starting point is 01:18:03 During the sex. But I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to be a level of compatibility. That's when you should be under one another. There you go. But I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to be all excited by her 24-7 outside of the bedroom. That's true, but that's why I've never really lived with anybody or thought that was a great idea because I feel like I don't wanna see people at their worst and I don't want them to see me at my worst. Like, a lot of life is disgusting.
Starting point is 01:18:28 The bathroom, I could go on. Excuse me for asking, how many siblings do you have? One. Okay. I have five. Yeah. Four older sisters. So when you talk about not seeing them at their worst, I grew up accustomed to seeing folks at their worst.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah, but I grew up also like smelling other people's shit. We had one bathroom that we all use. It's like, you know, it's just what it is. My mother was like, Mother Teresa, let aunts, uncles, cousins and stuff like that come live with us. So, you know, we only had one working bathroom. So I've seen women without makeup,
Starting point is 01:19:00 the hair's not done. And I don't care. It doesn't faze me. My whole point is this, when we go out, are you ready? Are you ready? I'm not saying going into a bathroom after someone else has just taken a shit
Starting point is 01:19:12 is the worst thing in the world. Yeah, but it's pretty close. Exactly. Yes. It's pretty close. You took the word right out of my mouth. It's just about the worst thing in the world. It's pretty close.
Starting point is 01:19:24 It's pretty close. It's pretty close. But I'm just saying for me personally, it's like as I've gotten older, you know, and I'm happy about it, Bill, because here's what I don't want. I'm 57, how old are you? I'm 35. Okay, yes sir.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Here's my deal. I don't want to be one of those dudes in my 60s. Me neither. At the club. At the neither. At the club. At the club. At the club. Hoping, praying, that I wanted to, I don't want to be that dude.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I like the fact that- That's why you have to be a success in life. That's right. Because otherwise you have to be at the club. That's right, because when you're successful, they'll come to you, then you don't have to go to them. To a degree, that's true. Like there's a certain point in life
Starting point is 01:20:05 where I think it's very fair to say, I've been chasing girls all my life. Now it's time for you to chase me. I don't chase. Exactly. I don't chase. Right. First of all, if you do, you just look bad.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah. You can't chase. I'm not doing that. At our age. I'm not doing that at all. It's just unseemly. No. Hello, how you doing? You look very, very beautiful. I hope you have a wonderful day. Keep it moving. Well, that. At our age. I'm not doing that at all. It's just unseemly. No.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Hello, how you doing? You look very, very beautiful. I hope you have a wonderful day. Keep it moving. Well, that's kind of chasing. That's not chasing. That's not chasing. Keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Even that. Once you say beautiful, you're kind of hitting on somebody. I'm just saying. No, no. Not at all. You're putting it out there. Not at all. I've seen women who are maybe had a ring in their finger.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Would you say it to me? No. If you wouldn't say it to a man, it's flirting. They're all... If you wouldn't say it to a man, it's flirting. I'm not a homosexual, so I wouldn't say that to a man. Again, this is not what I read in the bio. Oh, you please. You damn sure should.
Starting point is 01:20:54 But I'm just saying, no, no, no. Am I getting bad information in this part? To each their own. You damn sure didn't read that in the bio. But I'm just saying to you that I have no problem being, I've been complimented reading many women I've had no interest in whatsoever. I'm just like, you that I have no problem being I've been complimented reading many women I've had no interest in whatsoever. I'm just like yo, you the nice outfit. You look good. Whatever You keep it moving. There's no big deal
Starting point is 01:21:13 But I'm not I can tell you this much. I don't give a damn how fine you are I have stopped I stopped chasing more than a decade ago Well, let me tell you if your thing is women in their 50s and you put it out there. From the 50s, 40s? Well, you just said. You know, 50s, 40s? I'm telling you. I got flexibility.
Starting point is 01:21:29 You just. I got a girl, so I'm good. OK. OK. Let me throw that out there. Right. By the way, that makes you even more attractive to them. That's right.
Starting point is 01:21:39 One thing women hate is a guy who doesn't have someone who they have to get rid of. Two things. Two things. Two things. That, you're right on the money, no matter what they're willing to admit. Here's number two. I have two daughters. When they were younger, they're teenagers now, 16 and 15.
Starting point is 01:21:55 When they were younger, oh my Lord, Bill. I mean, all I had to do was walk in the supermarket or mall, would wander them. Here's a rap. Pussy trap, yeah. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Oh, I couldn't believe it. I was like, people, this is really true. This is really true.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I walked in there with my daughter, it's like a magnet. Better than a dog. Absolutely. Even better than a dog. Absolutely. I'm not saying that's a reason to have kids, although, but yeah, there's only one thing that could make you more attractive than having your daughter in the supermarket. The wife dead if you were a widower.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Because that shows that you can commit, but you didn't leave her. Yeah, but here's the problem with that. Well there is a problem with that. A conversation. You conversation. No, no. The conversation has to take place for the person to find out you're a widower. With the child, you don't have to have any conversation. It could take two seconds. Does this melon look ripe to you? Yes, my wife is dead. They will not be offended by that. Oh, no, my dad, man.
Starting point is 01:23:08 You might be right, though. Does this parsley look fresh? My wife is dead. That's all you got to do. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I got a buzz, and I've been drinking. But go ahead. No, no. Yeah, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:23:22 You want to go? No, man, I'm good. I'm straight, man. I'm straight. I'm having a good time. I got about 10 more minutes in me before I go to pee. Sure. Same here. Same here. I mean, I got to piss right now, but I can hold it for the next 10 minutes. What did we not get to? Do you think that...
Starting point is 01:23:34 Politics. I don't think we got to enough politics. Great. Politics. That's your lane. That's my lane. That's right. Democrats fucked up. My candidate that I voted for did not win, but that's happened before. Same here. And I'm reading the riot act to the left this week and I'm thrilled about it.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Then we have another show, one more show after that. That's the end of our season. So we're doing show Friday the 15th and then the 22nd. So I'm going to hit the left hard this week, which I think is absolutely apropos. I think it is as well. I completely support you. I mean, look, there's a lot to hate already
Starting point is 01:24:13 about what the new regime is doing. I mean, some of the appointments are pretty crazy. What is it, Hegson from Fox News, the defense secretary? Yeah. Can you take a week before you get apoplectic about what they might do to talk about what you did do? Or didn't do.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Or didn't do? How you fuck this up? Because my point at the end of this thing, Friday, is that I'm pissed at the Democrats because my issues, democracy, the environment, have no protectors now. Because you blew the election. I have nobody standing up for the two issues that are my issues. Which is? Democracy and the environment, my two most important issues.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Those are not priorities in the new administration. In fact, they're antagonistic to both of them. So I have no champion in Washington. They have the courts, they have the House and the Senate, and you totally left me unguarded. Here's my issue. I don't follow hockey, but there's probably a goalie analogy.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Here's my issue, generally speaking. We can talk to the economy, immigration, crime in the streets, blah blah blah. Here's my ultimate issue. The arrogance of the Democratic Party. That's, I'm saying the same thing. Arrogance of, we're saying the same thing in two different ways. The arrogance of the second Democratic Party. So Biden doesn't decide to run for reelection. You grease the skid so he doesn't decide to run for reelection. You grease the skid so he doesn't have to go through a primary. June 27th, he shows up and he embarrasses himself and positions naturally for the vice president of the United States, Kamala Harris, to ultimately ascend and become the Democratic
Starting point is 01:26:01 nominee. But the last time we saw her in a primary, she couldn't make it to Iowa. Did you really, really think that was going to work? And then here's what you did. Did you discuss the economy enough? No, you could have discussed the border because unlike Obama, who was quote unquote, the deported in chiefs, according to the Republicans,
Starting point is 01:26:21 because he deported more immigrants than Trump did. According to not just Republicans, but Democrats. There were Democrats who called him that. He deported more immigrants than Trump, which means he just didn't talk about it, but he did it. Biden walks in the office and day one you sign an executive order that opens the border, and you let more than 12 million immigrants cross the border illegally and you don't think that's going to be a problem? You knew that the governors DeSantis and Florida, Abbott and Texas and others were going to sit up there and attack sanctuary cities by busing these immigrants to your cities since
Starting point is 01:26:58 you had no problem with it. You were ill prepared to deal with it, okay? All of this stuff was going on and I'm looking at it and I'm saying So your plan for this election Was to come To women and say Forget the economy forget immigration Roe v. Wade was overturned It's now a states right issue as opposed to a federal issue. You thought that was gonna be enough
Starting point is 01:27:23 You thought it was gonna be enough for you to look at black men and say to black men, you're misogynistic and chauvinistic and that's the reason why you're not voting for Kamala Harris? You thought it was going to be enough for the Latinos to bring up immigration when you're not paying attention enough that the Cubans think different than the Dominicans and the Dominicans and the Cubans think different than the Colombians and they think different than the Venezuelans and the Guatemalans and the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans, et cetera, et cetera. A lot of these Latinos in America want the borders closed.
Starting point is 01:27:54 You didn't pay attention to that. You're from California. You were a district attorney here. You were a state attorney general here. You were a senator representing here. And you didn't know that the Latinos were going to say, yo, we don't like open borders. You didn't know that?
Starting point is 01:28:13 And so I'm looking at it and I'm saying, all of these things are going on. All of these things are going on. And your argument essentially was, you didn't say it, but this is essentially your argument, it's her turn. It's her turn. No, the Republicans don't play that. They say, hell with all of that whose turn it is. We want him. Who do the Democrats want? If you ask them today, they still don't know. They say Kamala because it was too late to say anybody
Starting point is 01:28:45 else. But you didn't know who they would say if there was a primary. And also because the Democratic Party is ideologically captured by identity politics. That's about, I'm totally with you 1000%. Listen, I am, I'm a big, Bill, just so you know, I'm a fiscal conservative, I'm a social liberal. Live and let live, bro. And I'm freaking the sheep. You're not supposed to say that. If you're filthy, give us a call.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I do try, I do try, I do try, no doubt. But here's the deal, man. Listen, I'm a social liberal. And what I mean by that is gay rights, absolutely. Transgender rights and all this stuff, I got no issues with you. I don't want anybody. I'm a black man. I don't want anybody's civil rights violated. I don't want anybody being persecuted in the streets of America. I don't want you being
Starting point is 01:29:32 mistreated. I don't want you being denied the same rights that I have. That's fine. But the Democrats took it too far because it wasn't just about their rights, you wanted folks to like and embrace and accept everything. Excuse me, there are some people that, guess what? They might watch prostitution, but they ain't fucking with them. They might like porn stars, but they ain't messing with them. They might like strippers, but they ain't messing. It's all right, yup, do you. But I don't want it in my face. You got people that think like that and knowing that that's the reality and knowing that that doesn't even make up 1% of the population. You are caught on tape if you're Kamala Harris saying, quote, I'm for transgender operations for prisoners? You didn't think Trump was going to use that?
Starting point is 01:30:30 I'm just saying, like, this is why I say, I voted for Kamala Harris, but I can't deny that strictly from a campaign perspective, Bill, he was the better candidate because he played to his constituents. In their defense, they had a meeting and they decided that free tits for murderers was a good slogan. Okay. And where did that get them? Because in the end, when you're trying to pay your bills, Okay, but here's the- And you got peace in the streets that you worried about, you're not going for that.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Here's the silver lining. You're trying to win. I think. The elections showed we're much less racially tribal than we thought we were. I mean, Trump is a strange guy to bring together all these different coalitions, but he won Latino men. 13%. 13? They said it was a 13% jump.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Oh, okay. Well, whatever it was. Latino votes and a 5% jump in a, okay. Well, whatever it was. And a 5% jump in the black vote, and even more of that amongst black men. That's what they said. Yeah. And did better, you know, young. I mean, just like, we're not really divided so much along the lines that the media paints
Starting point is 01:31:39 us in. Right. We're more of a centrist nation. The fringes on the Maggots right and the extreme left, the squad and all of that, those are the fringes. Most of Americans are sent to left or right. Yeah, and most Americans are just anti-crazy. You know, I mean, I have a line in the thing I'm doing on Friday that Democrats run campaigns now like the voters don't live here.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Like they don't live here. And like they don't like go to Starbucks and the office and the store, you know, like, and they do and they see women and people of color and it doesn't look like a racist patriarchy, patriarchal nightmare. It doesn't look like that. And so if that's what the Democrats are selling, it just-
Starting point is 01:32:24 They don't know what the hell they're selling. What they want to do, and listen, I'm just gonna say it plain. The Democrats have gotten on my last damn nerve. Me too. If it wasn't for Trump, I would have voted Republican. Because I'm so sick of how they are. It's always about the other side
Starting point is 01:32:44 and engaging in demagoguery for you to get my vote as opposed to really articulating what you're bringing to the table to offer me and my community. And they're snobby. And they're snobby. They don't cater to the working class. They cater to the elite
Starting point is 01:32:58 and then they accuse the Republicans of doing it. They won't even listen to them. There's a lot of stories now in the news about people who have been stories now in the news about people who have been saying in the media, there was this Yale psychologist who said it on CNN, I think, or maybe it was MSNBC, that if you have a relative who voted for Trump,
Starting point is 01:33:18 cut them off, don't see them for the holidays. Don't see them for the holidays. Really? That's your, this is what got you into this mess. Exactly. You them for the holidays. That's your, that's your, this is what got you into this mess. Exactly. You know, take the clothespin off your nose and talk to the other side of the country because you don't have a monopoly on being smart. In fact, I could prove how stupid you were on a million things and you wouldn't even talk to the other side. Educate me about this. I've held this against the Democrats for years
Starting point is 01:33:45 and I've said it publicly. So let's go to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Obama is in office. He's there. You know he's going to select a liberal to be on a higher court. You know this. According to the reports, if they're wrong, I apologize,
Starting point is 01:34:04 but according to the reports, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, former Supreme Court justice, who was approaching her 80s, if not in her 80s, who had health issues, cancer being one of them, okay, didn't want to step down at the behest of the Obama administration because she wanted her successor to be selected by a female. Now let me say this, Bill, okay? The Democrats lose me when I never hear them mention that. And here's why. Respectfully to this former great Supreme Court justice
Starting point is 01:34:42 who did a lot of good, you put your own personal preferences against the interests of the country according to you and your ideology, what you believe would best serve this country. Because you said, you assumed, arrogantly I might add, Hillary Clinton was going to beat Donald Trump. And then when Hillary Clinton failed to beat Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:35:05 because he got more of the Electoral College vote than the popular vote, okay, the court was able to be swung 6-3 instead of 5-4. You did that. They never talk about it. They never talk about it. I'm like, wait a minute, y'all. All she had to do was retire
Starting point is 01:35:24 and let the liberal president select the Supreme Court justice. And because you didn't do that, not only is the court swung 6-3, it's on a verge of swinging 7-2 because now you got people saying Sonia Sotomayor is gonna step down because she's had health issues with diabetes.
Starting point is 01:35:43 She's in her 70s, She's 70 years of age. Well, she's not. And that is, listen, you had one pundit literally advocate, she should step down now. Yeah. So Biden could insert the liberal, another liberal into the court that's going to be there for years to come. This is what you've regressed to purely for arrogance. Nothing else. Obama did have Ruth Bader Ginsburg for lunch when she was Supreme Court justice in a kind of a, you know, wouldn't it be great to spend more time with the grandkids kind of way?
Starting point is 01:36:19 How about that? You know, he did try. Yes, he did. To move her along. I'm not blaming him. I'm blaming her. I called Biden Ruth Bader Biden. Yeah, I heard you say that.
Starting point is 01:36:29 A long time before he said it, because I said, you're going to be the Ruth Bader Biden of presidents. And that's exactly the case. I mean, a lot of people are blaming the whole thing on the fact that he wouldn't get out. And he deserves it. Embarrassed the party. Respectfully. Looked like the party was the party of doddering old men, and then,
Starting point is 01:36:46 you know, as you say, she, look, the whole thing, it is what it is, we are where we are, and you know, all I can say is, as I conclude here, I'm not going to lose my shit until it happens. I did that when the first Trump administration, I'm not gonna chase every silly thing they say. I'm just not gonna do it. Like, could he blow up the world on the first day? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:37:15 And put thousands of people in Guantanamo. I don't know what he could do. He's too unpredictable. I don't think he knows what he could do. But I'm just not gonna lose my nervous system until it happens. So, and am I pissed off at the people who put me in this position? I am.
Starting point is 01:37:31 You were supposed to be my protector and a lot of people's protectors, and you blew it with your boutique issues and your bullshit, woke nonsense that the country rejected again across cross lines and So blacks Latinos whites white women white men right everybody if there's anything good to come out of this It's that you and I who I read from your bio
Starting point is 01:38:02 Man thank you so much back to work. That's always so much fun you so much. All right. Go back to work. That's always so much fun. Now, a handshake won't do it. It's a lot, buddy. Appreciate you, man. Thanks so much, man. I had a good time, though. Each other's excuse for getting drunk.
Starting point is 01:38:18 That's right. For getting drunk. I'm a little tipsy. Each other's excuse for getting drunk. Hey, hey. That's a bond. You're the only place. That's a bond. You're the only place where I ever get a little tipsy, no doubt about it.

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