Club Random with Bill Maher - Stephen A Smith | Club Random with Bill Maher
Episode Date: November 24, 2024Stephen A. Smith and Bill on the bad things about certain sports, Aaron Judge's post-season struggles, PED’s in sports, nepo babies, boxing’s big problem, how the Dems lost America, identity polit...ics versus big stuff like the economy, immigration, crime, dating preferences, Stephen’s Trump interactions, aging and attractiveness, and hope for the future. Go to https//www.oneskin.co to get started today with 15% OFF using code RANDOM, today! Go to https://www.RadioactiveMedia.com or text RANDOM at 511511 to save up to 50%, today! Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/RANDOM Support our show and check them out at https://www.hexclad.com/RANDOM Go to https://www.HeatHolders.com and use the code RANDOM 25 to save 25% OFF through Cyber Monday! For a very limited time, shop the biggest sale of the year and find your forever cookware @hexclad at https://www.hexclad.com/RANDOM #hexcladpartner Follow Club Random on IG: @ClubRandomPodcast Follow Bill on IG: @BillMaher Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Watch Club Random on YouTube: https://bit.ly/ClubRandomYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The 600 players in the NBA were the best in the world.
Let me tell you what the real problem was with the whole
Brawny James thing.
It could take two seconds.
Does this melon look ripe to you?
Yes.
My wife is dead.
Well, look who's here.
I'm in the house.
And early.
Yes, sir.
I love that.
It's good to see you, buddy.
Hope I didn't keep you waiting.
Not at all.
I'm good.
You're on Asian people's time.
No problem.
No problem.
How you doing?
You liked it so much the this time. No problem, no problem. How you doing?
You liked it so much the first time.
Absolutely.
They told me you wanted me back, I was happy to come.
Oh, I definitely do.
Definitely, you mind if I get, you know,
because it's the only show I ever drink
my Hennessy and Coke on.
Well, it's funny you say that because I look forward
to this not only because I get to talk
to great people every week,
but it's the only drinks I allow myself.
Really?
I got you, I got you. You know, I mean, two drinks. I used it's the only drinks I allow myself. Really.
I got you, I got you.
You know, I mean, two drinks.
I used to have that before I left the house.
That's right.
And now, you know, you're on a short leash when you're older.
Oh well.
You know what, you're aging gracefully.
That's what counts.
Yeah, I mean, like I think about what a guy like Aaron Judge is going through.
How about that?
The World Series he just had? Well. I love Aaron Judge, going to... How about that? The world series he just had? Well...
I love Aaron Judge, but my God.
Not just the hitting, which can happen,
but the fifth inning with the fielding play.
And like, the connection with money.
Now look, Aaron Judge seems like a really great guy.
Right.
Handles everything well.
I mean, he's drinking somewhere now with Mayor Adams.
You know? They're together. Enjoy that while you's drinking somewhere now with Mayor Adams.
You know, they're together.
Enjoy that while you can, they're after Mayor Adams now.
They're together, just putting him back.
Like everything was going so well for us.
And of course, Aaron Judge will come back.
He's too great, and he had a great season.
But is the money worth, I mean, part of the reason
why it's just horrible for people to accept
is that you're getting so much money
and you drop a routine fly ball.
Like I bet you he thinks, it's just,
all the money in the world cannot make up
for how bad I feel.
How bad I feel for letting down the whole city.
You are talking to a die hard Yankee fan. I assure you Yan How bad I feel for letting down the whole city. You are talking to a diehard Yankee fan.
I assure you Yankee fans are not thinking nearly as much
about that drop ball as we're thinking about the fact that
in multiple playoff series in his career,
he is batting less than 150.
Listen, at the end of the day, he's paid to hit home runs.
And damn it, if he ain't gonna hit home runs,
hit singles, hit doubles, get on things.
What you can't do is go to bat 39 times,
strike out 19 times, and that can't happen.
That brings me to, and you're a great one to answer this,
maybe the best one.
I think the way they do MVP voting is off
because they don't include the postseason. I think the way they do MVP voting is off
because they don't include the postseason.
To me this is bullshit, it's bonkers. Clayton Kershaw, another one.
MVP, who is actually most valuable?
If you're actually putting your own money into the team
and had to pick, you're gonna pick the guy
who also performs in the offseason. you're gonna pick the guy who also performs
in the off season.
I would rather have a guy who had 35 home runs
in the regular season.
Yeah, it's gotta be a guy who gets you there
and then performs in the off season.
That to me is actually most valuable.
Let me counter that with this.
I get where you're coming from.
I don't blame you for...
Point, counterpoint.
No, no, I don't blame you for feeling...
Stephen A, you were in slot. I don't blame you for- Point, counterpoint. No, no, I don't blame you for- Stephen A, you were in slot.
Yeah, I don't blame you for feeling that way.
Here's what I would say.
You have a point, but the biggest point
that supports your position is the fact
that you wait weeks to award the MVP in the regular season.
Dammit, if you're gonna award the regular season MVP,
the minute the regular season is over, before the playoffs begin, give them the MVP in the regular season. Dammit, if you're going to award the regular season MVP, the minute the regular season is over,
before the playoffs begin, give them the MVP.
Right.
And then we're fine. Okay, now that was that.
Because we don't want the regular season to be meaningless.
So you want to solidify it.
You want to make sure it establishes importance.
Do it at the end of the regular season.
Immediately make sure no awards are given when the postseason is done,
when the whole season starts.
I think we can agree on that compromise.
I think it's a good example for America
that's trying to bridge gaps right now.
And I think this is going to make America great again.
I don't think it's going to happen.
MVP voting right away.
Right away.
But then another award for, you know, I guess they do have that.
They have the most valuable player of the year.
But to me, it's of the whole team.
You know, the whole team right now is sucking Freddie Freeman's dick.
Right.
Right.
That's, you know, that's who really was the most, as much as they had Otani.
He showed up.
Another guy who did not show up in the postseason.
Yeah, but at least he hit a home run in game one.
I mean, at least he got on base and stuff like that.
And he showed up at points in the postseason.
He didn't have, he wasn't, he was not good for most
of the World Series.
But he had enough moments in the postseason where you know
it wasn't a choke job.
See, Bill is a difference between a choke job
and you know what, you're just in a slump or whatever.
If you're Aaron Judge and you smack it over 50 home runs
every regular season and then every postseason,
all of a sudden you stink, that's a problem.
That is a problem.
That's a problem.
But when you have your moments, then we can respect that.
But you can tell the difference
between somebody who's struggling
and somebody where the bright lights are just too big for them.
I tell you, the Dodgers.
They did it, man.
Yeah, but you know the Otani sign, the O.D. went 700 million.
That's crazy for one player, even as great as he is, and maybe he'll never even pitch again, blah, blah, blah.
But I think what they had in mind, and they look like they're right,
is they were like, you know what?
I think Japan is the New Mexico.
How about that?
And baseball it is.
And it's like one thing, if you have every team
has a lot of Latin players on it.
So it's not like a Latin player's gonna go,
oh, if I go to the Blue Jays, will anybody speak Spanish?
Yes, every team has a, but Japanese? Like, once Otani was on that team,
then Admiral Yamamoto came.
And they got somebody else coming, too.
And now they got the new great arm out of Japan,
because it's like, where am I gonna go?
Well, first of all, the West Coast,
it's a lot closer to home.
That's a direct flight.
How about that?
Weather's better. Weather is better. Weather's better. There's a direct flight. How about that? Tokyo. Weather's better.
What?
Weather is better.
Weather's better.
There's more Asian people.
That's right.
And there's some people on the team I can talk to.
And the team you're going to has more money than everybody,
including the Yankees at this point.
And the Dodgers are the team of Japan.
Do you realize?
They got the whole country of Japan.
I sat up there, and me being a Yankee fan,
I'm like, do you realize this might be our last shot?
We haven't won a World Series since 2009,
and we are in a situation right now
where we're looking at this Dodger squad
because Ohtani deferred more than 90% of his salary.
They have the money to go out and get Juan Soto from the Yankees if they want to.
They can afford him.
They can afford him.
I said, what a nightmare.
This can't be happening.
But it is.
The Dodgers, I think that the Dodgers
could be in our dynasty.
To me, I think that was why it was such a smart play,
that they had to get Otani, because again,
they got a whole country.
And it's not like there's gonna be as many Latin players.
Japan is gonna come up with a great player
it seems like maybe every year, every couple of years.
But they're probably gonna go to Seattle,
Suzuki, right, wasn't it Seattle?
Ichiro, yeah. Ichiro, and I mean, the Yankees had,
they had a great Japanese player.
Yes, I got brain lock right now,
but I know exactly who you're talking about.
He pitched well for them.
Matsui, he pitched well for them.
My mother used to, he used to pitch?
No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about him.
I'm talking about the pitcher that they had.
I keep forgetting his name right now.
I'm just trying, but Matsui was good too.
Matsui was very good.
But I mean, it was a brilliant play
and that 700 million is paying off
in that pipeline that they own.
And other people, it's too.
And now they pay for themselves.
Doesn't cost them the money that they're making
because they have a tiny.
People gotta look at this.
They told us 700 million, 700 million dollars.
No, it's 700 million spread over 10 years.
It's 70 million per this dude walks to the ballpark in a week.
They're making 70 million off of this guy.
Not to defend billionaires, but like the average fan is like very angry.
And I don't blame them, that a baseball game,
which used to be something the common man could enjoy,
is something, it's like Taylor Swift tickets.
It's like Disneyland.
These things that are just so out of reach
for the working people.
You know, the whole election was about
the Democrats lost the working people.
But why do they have to charge that much?
They really, really don't.
It's because the players.
They really, really don't want you
to consider the television contracts that they have as
well.
So you got to take that into consideration.
They get money from everywhere.
They get money from it.
There's no reason to charge them.
But they're paying it out in huge numbers.
It's not like the game couldn't cost way less.
I'm not saying the players, look, it's free market capitalism.
I'm all for it.
But that's why, kids, the hot dog costs $12.
Yes.
It's because you're paying one guy $700 million.
That parking cost $50 and a hot dog cost $16.
That's what I'm telling you.
But that's where the, that's the providence of where the money is going.
You love baseball?
Of course.
Do I not sound like I love baseball?
Let me tell you this.
I like baseball.
Here's what I hate about baseball, which is why it's never been my favorite.
I've told people.
I'll tell you what I hated after that.
I gotta, I gotta throw this by you.
You want baseball to really improve and ingratiate itself,
particularly with the younger generation on the come up
who leans more towards basketball than football.
They did a good job with some of the rule changes
that they play because it invited more athleticism, et cetera.
You know, pitch, count, no shifting,
all of this other stuff, bigger bases, stealing,
all this stuff.
But they need to totally, totally, totally
get rid of the intentional walk.
They did.
Excuse me.
Oh no, no, no.
I don't mean, I'm talking about,
you don't put anybody on base.
Oh, you can't.
You gotta pitch to everybody.
You can't do it.
Right.
Great, love it.
Done.
Listen, you're a grown ass man.
Where's my rubber stamp?
So I'm a grown ass man.
Yes.
I'm pitching.
Yes.
Bill Maher's batting about 330, and he's coming up to the plate.
Well, don't even bother the guys.
You don't have to throw it to him.
Bill, take your base.
Really?
Really?
You're paying.
But just go back to what they used to do,
which is just deliberately pitch where he can't hit it,
and say, well, I was trying to throw a strike.
But I'm saying something different.
I'm saying you're a professional.
Like, for example, you couldn't walk up to Randy Johnson.
You couldn't walk up to Roger Clemens and these cats
and go like this, yo, walk him.
You couldn't do that.
They'd look at you, you better get out my face.
Right.
It's me against him.
And I tell you why I feel this way,
and I've never changed.
One of the rare occasions,
you got the National League against American League,
and Barry Bonds came to Yankee Stadium.
And I decide I'm gonna go as a fan,
and I'm gonna roll up to this game.
And you get stuck in traffic on the Deegan Expressway
in the Bronx, Cross Bronx Expressway,
you pay $50 for parking, you pay your hot dogs,
your popcorn, your soda, all of this other stuff, you sit in there and they walk them.
It was driving me crazy. You wanted to see Barry Bonds hit.
Every time they walked through?
You wanted that practically every time. And you just looked at it and you said,
no, you got to deal with Michael Jordan, you got to deal with LeBron James, you got to deal with
Kobe, you got to deal with Patrick Mahomes, you got to deal with Tommy. You you gotta deal with LeBron James, you gotta deal with Kobe, you gotta deal with Patrick Mahomes,
you gotta deal with Thomas,
you don't get to avoid them,
you gotta find a way to defend against them.
Okay, but again, I don't see how you can force people
to throw a ball that they can't claim,
hey, I was trying to throw a strike.
I agree with you, but what I'm saying is,
I've got 95, 100 mile per hour fastball. It's me against you
Let's go. All you can do is shame him into it. Yeah what you can strike out exactly, you know
And that's what I'm saying, but that's not gonna work
Yeah, but Barry Bonds like I was defended by your bonds like did he take steroids?
Of course, you know all the sluggers did in that era. I mean, it's a shame, but I also think it's a bullshit argument.
I've had this argument with Bob Costas many times.
Like, everything changes in the game.
You know, Babe Ruth didn't have to play
against African Americans.
And the Mitz were like literally little Mitz.
I mean, Babe Ruth's lifetime batting average is 342.
If he played today, it would be 242.
Or, it's not 292, I don't know,
but it wouldn't be 342.
He's a big fat guy.
I agree with you.
But, you know,
so the records don't bother him,
the steroids thing doesn't bother me that much.
And I remember Barry Bonds once said,
can it be that I'm good?
I'm just good.
And like, with or without the steroids,
he was good on a level few people were.
That's where you go.
Here's where I'll go.
This man was 30 and 30 for four steroids.
He was good for 30 horns and 30 stolen bases.
He was good to bat over 300.
He was a hall, he was en route to the Hall of Fame.
Then in 1994, when you stupidly canceled the World Series,
Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa returned,
and they revitalized the sport, 98.
I'm talking about this, Roger Maris' single-season home run record.
They did all of this stuff, right?
And they just galvanized the American public back to the sport of baseball.
And you knew they were juiced up, okay?
And Barry Bonds is like,
oh, so this is how y'all doing?
Oh, really?
So it doesn't really matter.
So you're sitting up there,
because remember, in the Game of Shadows book,
and the excerpts that were displayed in Sports Illustrated,
they said that Barry Bonds essentially was using it
because of all the attention
that Mark McGuire and those guys were getting,
and he already knew without it, he was better than them.
So he said, all right, this is what you do.
Well, let me show you what I'm gonna do when I'm on it.
And that's when he smacked 73 Home Runs.
You see what I'm saying?
So he was like, this is what I bring to the table, right?
And I'm like, wait a minute.
So he comes out there and he does what he does. All right.
And you're saying it's because he was jealous
of the attention that they were getting.
And I say, no, wasn't jealousy.
He was saying, damn it, y'all supposed to know baseball.
They couldn't shot my shoes.
All they could do is hit.
They hit or struck out.
They hit a hole run or they struck out practically.
He said, I was swinging on average.
I was stealing bases.
I was a gold glover.
I was good for 30 home runs a year.
Seven time MVP.
You understand, seven time MVP.
And y'all acted like y'all didn't give a shit about me.
Y'all thought they were better than me.
Y'all were acting like they were better than me.
And he said, I'ma show you,
if I use the same stuff they're using,
this is what I could do.
And sure enough, he did it.
And I'm like, what's the problem?
What's the, you gonna keep him out of the Hall of Fame?
Everybody who acted like the players taking steroids
hurt them so much.
They didn't hurt you,
they hurt the guy who took the steroids.
Their balls shrunk.
Their mandible got enormous.
Their heart probably got enlarged. It was not good
for, it was not health food. It was a deal with the devil. And it made it entertaining.
Look, I remember that 98 race so vividly, the Mark McGuire, right, and Sammy Sosa.
Oh, absolutely.
And I have a vivid memory. I don't know why.
Chase the 61.
I was in San Francisco, of course with a girl.
I'm right.
I just remember.
It would be wise.
We were in a bar, as I always was in 1998.
And I don't know where we were, but the TV was on in the bar.
And I remember looking at the TV and seeing what happened.
I went, oh wow, McGuire hit 58 and 59.
And I remember her going.
He didn't give a shit.
Well of course not.
Was a girl in 1998.
That's right.
Well they do say chicks love the long ball, right?
That's what they say all the time,
that's what they used to say.
And I remember thinking like, you're so right,
sports is such bullshit.
I know it's your living and it's my past time.
But it's like the things I could have done in my life
with the time if I hadn't watched sports.
Which I freak, you know, ask me who won the Super Bowl
last year, I guess it was the Chiefs.
Okay, I remember that one.
Yes it was, two time Super Bowl champion.
Absolutely.
But a year before that.
Chiefs.
Oh yeah, that's right, they're going for three feet.
Back to back, yeah they're going for three feet.
Back to back, yeah, they're going for three feet.
All right, but now before I forget,
I want to tell you what I don't like about baseball.
And it's something you can change.
But here's what makes baseball, to me, so frustrating
and so different than every other sport.
Okay.
The element of luck is enormous
compared to any other sport.
In basketball, there is the occasional shot
that's a shitty shot but still goes in.
I'm sure Don Nelson's one that broke Jerry West's heart
turned him into a caricature on that HBO show.
I'm sure Jerry West went to his grave
and said, I can't that shitty shot that went back. But that mostly isn't what happened.
You either make the shot or you don't.
And if you make it.
Patrick Ewing, finger roll, Indiana, missed it.
Missed it.
But mostly, if you hit it right, baseball,
it's like 50-50 whether you will be rewarded
or punished for doing the right thing.
You sting the ball.
It's a line drive, but it's right into the right fielder's.
And then you hit a shitty blooper.
And it goes, you know.
So like when you, if there was a way to reward,
like oh wow, he got that pitch.
That guy tried to throw a hundred mile an hour slider
past him and he got it.
And he got it right on the barrel.
Well, I'm playing.
That's what fucks up baseball.
I'm not getting rid of baseball for it
and you can't get rid of that.
But it is a lucky sport.
I don't mind the luck element with sports.
I mean, it comes with it.
And I love baseball. No, I with it. And I love baseball.
No, I like baseball.
And I love baseball, you're right,
but I love baseball in person.
Don't like it as much watching it on television.
Me too.
I love basketball either live or on television.
I love football on television.
Hate it live.
There's nothing like a court seat at a basketball game.
Right.
Nothing.
Right.
Look, I've never been to a boxing match, like close up. Oh my goodness. I have. Maybe that's better. Right. Nothing. Right. I mean, look, I've never been to a boxing match like close up.
Oh my goodness.
I have.
That, maybe that's better.
Yes.
I mean.
I bet you it is.
They're punching each other.
Listen, I went to, I had to cover the Mike Tyson, Andrew Galata fight years ago when
he got out of jail and then, you know, he was fighting in Detroit, Michigan.
I was there for that fight.
I was there for the Oscar De La Hoya versus Fernando Vargas fight.
I'm talking about in terms of ringside seats. Last July, not this past July, but July before that,
Terrence Crawford going up against Errol Spence. That was the biggest fight, one of the biggest
fights that I was there for that. I didn't even know these people. I mean, they're like,
because boxers, because of the promoters have messed up the sport. That's why you don't know enough about them, because Terrence Crawford's great.
When we talk about a guy like Terrence Crawford,
I need you to think about a Floyd Money Mayweather,
a Sugar Ray Leonard, a Marvin Hagler, people like that.
That's how great Terrence Crawford is, okay?
And this was supposed to be a big fight,
because Errol Spence was an undefeated welterweight champion,
and Terrence Crawford slaughtered
him.
I mean, just took him to school and beat him like he stole something.
And you know, and I don't say, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
I love Errol Spence, but that was an ass kicking.
It really, really was.
And when you see stuff like that, you know, Canelo Alvarez, Triple G.
Sounds like what happened to the Democrats.
How about that?
And you know what?
Yeah, that was an ass-kicking.
That was, if we're being honest about it, it was a thorough ass-kicking.
Ain't no way around it, Bill.
Oh, right.
I mean, you know more politics than me, but damn it, yeah, a blind man can see the Democrats
got their ass kicked.
Yeah, it was like, you know what?
I like that analogy.
Democrats similar to Terrence Crawford, Errol Smith Jr.
Yep, that works.
It was that kind of ass-kicking.
It won't work on a lot of people like me
who don't know who these people are.
Why do you think it is that boxing became a sport
that I was always interested in when it was
Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and even up to,
who got his ear bit off?
Mike Tyson, Holyfield.
Tyson, Holyfield. Tyson, Holyfield.
And it's been years. Is that because UFC?
Combination of two. Number one,
and I love the fact that you made that analogy
because the kind of ass-kicking that the Democrats just received
is similar to a lot of that stuff.
What do you think they should do about it?
The Democrats? Yeah.
How about having some, how about, listen,
I like Westmore, Governor of Maryland,
but you know, you have, to use your baseball analogy,
you have no bullpen.
Who is it?
Trump's been the Republican nominee since 2016.
Yeah.
Okay?
It is clear that that's who conservatives want
in the White House, okay?
That's who they supported.
They didn't give a damn about the 34 indictments. They didn't give a damn about two impeach supported. They didn't give a damn about 34 indictments.
They didn't give a damn about two impeachments.
They didn't give a damn about all the legal issues
and the law fit that Democrats engaged in.
They said, Joe, that's who we want.
This is the difference,
and I said this to a lot of people, Bill.
The conservatives said, we want that guy.
That's who we want.
have said, we want that guy. That's who we want.
And the voters decided who the Republican nominee
is going to be.
When you look at the Democrats,
they didn't do it with Obama, that's true.
Okay.
But they greased the skids.
This is the person we want, it's her turn.
It was Hillary's turn in 2016.
All right, Biden-
That's not Obama.
Obama earned it. No, no, that's what I said. He earned it.
But in 2016, and I'm not even trying to imply...
They voted. Hillary ran in the primaries.
I'm not even trying to imply that she...
But remember, they were complaining
that Bernie Sanders had some momentum
and was compromised by the Democratic Party
because they were saying it was Hillary's turn.
Remember that?
Bernie Sanders, I love him, but he's too far left,
and he would have been a bigger disaster than Kamala was.
That's fine.
But what I'm saying to you is still an all-Bill.
And I, shoot, I just read it, I disagree with you.
What I'm saying is the only thing I will push back on
is that's fine.
But that's for the voter to decide.
And a lot of times, the Democratic Party seems as if they've got their claws in the mix.
Take Biden, for example.
Okay, so, you know, Clyburn helps him get through South Carolina.
He ultimately goes to the Democratic nomination.
He's the Democratic nominee for the president.
He ultimately wins the election.
There was supposed to be a red wave in 2022 in the midterms.
The Republicans didn't pull
that off. And Biden is feeling himself and saying, I ain't going anywhere. I told y'all I was going to
be a transitional president. I told y'all I was going to be a one term dude. I'm just here as a
stopgap. I paved the way for the future of a Democratic party. And then all of a sudden he
in office takes that power. He was a veritable John the Baptist.
Just the guy who goes before.
Come on, bro.
Absolutely.
Bill, the point is that your ass was gonna be 82 years old
in the White House.
Come on now.
And I'll never forget this.
Bill, I swear to you, I love your show, Real Time.
I'm a huge fan.
I watch it every chance I get. I have never. No, real fans'm a huge fan. I watch it every chance I get.
I have never.
No, real fans watch it every week.
You watch it every chance you get.
I'm just fucking with you.
That's just because I got multiple jobs.
Here's the deal, Bill.
But I Tivo it.
I mean, DVR it rather.
Tivo.
That Tivo, DVR.
I'm gonna send you a telegram about that.
In total, so here's the deal, man.
I have never wanted to be on your show more than I wanted to be on your show when Biden
announced that he was going to run for reelection.
Because I'm like this, what y'all going to say now?
This is some straight bullshit.
You got a situation where you won the midterm,
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be 81 in election time, knowing you're going to be 82 in office, right? I'm sorry, it wasn't
the midterm. It was when the State of the Union address took place.
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And I saw these people.
Remember, the liberals, so when you call these progressives, oh, so you're looking forward
with a dude that's going to be 82 and would leave office when he's 86
Really y'all I'm sitting there like you got to be shit me
This is what you're talking about and I'm like, I knew I wasn't voting for Trump
I knew that wasn't gonna happen, but I was saying to myself. What are you thinking?
What are you thinking this and then I looked at the bullpen?
They had no one.
They had no one.
They had no one that could compete with Donald Trump.
Well, not on a charisma level.
Fair.
OK, fair enough.
But charisma is what gets you votes, bro.
Absolutely.
And I've said it a million times, insanity photographs.
It really does.
I mean, it's charismatic.
But I have so many things that I must contend here with.
Sure.
One, you're an ageist.
There are people who are completely crackling right at 82.
So it's always a case-by-case basis.
Right, yeah. Nancy Pelosi,
Nancy Pelosi don't have the problems that Biden have.
I'm very supportive of Nancy Pelosi,
you know, in terms of Nancy Pelosi,
in terms of how sharp she is.
I don't believe I'm an agist.
Nancy Pelosi has lost a step in public also, to be perfectly honest.
But the job is never what you do in public.
The job is done in the Oval Office.
All you have to do is be...
I never thought Biden couldn't do the job.
The job is actually sitting in the Oval Office making decisions.
He's not crazy.
He hasn't lost his mind.
He's not senile.
He just can't do the public part.
He never could do it well and add the age thing and you're going to get things like
I killed Medicare or whatever the fuck he said.
By the way, Trump, no know, no one has been harder
on Trump or more against Trump, blah, blah, blah.
I don't have to establish my credentials.
But he does do things once in a while
that either make me genuinely laugh
or make me genuinely go, oh, that's good.
Like when he said, in that debate,
he once, well, he had a moment where he went,
I don't know what he said. And then. Exactly! Right there! And I don't think he knows what he said, in that debate, he went, well he had a moment where he went, I don't know what he said.
Exactly!
And I don't think he knows what he said.
I don't think he knows what he said.
Or did we crack it up?
That's what people love about him.
It's like he's crazy, but crazy people don't have the time
to pretend about shit.
That's why he can say shithole countries.
You say the time.
As if nobody else ever said shithole. Or thought that there say shithole countries. And everybody, as if nobody else ever said shithole.
Or thought that there were shithole countries.
But Bill, you say the time, I say the interest.
Like for example, so you walk into Club Random, okay?
Let me let the audience know what Club Random is.
Well, there's no audience.
It's a conversation.
That's what makes it so great.
That's how it's watching out there.
That's watching out there.
Yeah, they're watching. Oh, that's watching, yes. It's watching, right? But it's no audience. It's a conversation. That's what makes it so great. That's how it is. It's watching out there.
That's watching out there.
Yeah, they're watching.
Oh, that's watching, yes.
It's watching, right?
But it's no bullshit.
You're going to have a real conversation.
You're going to have a real conversation.
So real.
You're going to have a real conversation.
That's why I'm here.
I'm not wasting my time talking to somebody that's going to be a phony ass.
I got better things to do all my time.
No, you're exactly the kind of guest I like.
You understand?
Because you don't ever pretend.
No, I don't ever pretend
Let me ask you this sure I read your bio, okay, you're black. Yep
Trusting the research of my assistance if I'm wrong about this
That is on them right someone's gonna lose their job, but that's what I read in the research
Right, you're a black male. All right, so I was having this, you know,
after the election, everybody's all talking.
It's all they can talk about at dinner, at parties,
even the Hollywood party.
By the way, I'm lucid, I'm clear and all that stuff,
but I got a contact high and I'm a little tipsy.
But I'm all right, but I'm feeling great.
I'm feeling great.
You're Lucifer.
I'm lucid. Okay.
Okay.
And by the way, are you sure you don't want pot?
Because you, I tell you, to me, your profile screams,
I would love this drug.
I'm not saying...
I will say this to you, Bill.
I will tell you this.
The day I smoke some pot, if I ever did it on camera,
it will go viral.
It would get about a billion views.
Because as much as I've talked about staying off the weed,
even though I've only geared that
towards professional athletes compromising their money,
the bottom line is I've said it so much over the years,
it would go viral.
But anyway, go ahead and to your part.
All right, I gotta ask you this question.
So I'm at this party and there's like a lot of, I'm not gonna say the name, but what they
would call bold face names.
And of course it's after the election, but this is Hollywood.
And you know, I love Hollywood, I really do.
I love living here and I love show business.
And don't take it the wrong way.
But the people here, they're loaded with talent.
They're not loaded with smartest person in the room.
Right.
You know.
I'm not saying they're complete idiots.
Some, and there are some very smart people in the business,
some brilliant people.
But mostly, what they got was talent.
So they're talking about the election.
Of course, they all wanna talk to me,
because they're like, oh, that kid actually knows shit.
Yes, you do.
You do.
You do, Bill.
You know, OK.
So they're like, you know, of course,
they're all upset about Trump, as if their life is
going to change.
One now.
Like, you know, let me tell you, for the last year,
people have been coming up to me at the nicest restaurants
in Hollywood, because that's the only place I go,
because I'm a baller.
You know this, Steve or they.
Okay, so it's like, oh Bill, what are we gonna do
if Trump wins?
I'm like, you know what you're gonna do?
Go back and finish your $900 dinner for four people.
That's what you're gonna do.
And your taxes are probably gonna go down
like the first time, and everything else
you can give a shit about.
They don't realize, they make it hard on people like yourself and me who will vote liberal.
But we're sensible.
We're not extreme.
We're not extreme.
That's why the election was lost.
You woke.
Now you can't, don't get me wrong, inflation, immigration, of course, but that woke culture,
they took it too far.
You gotta watch my show.
I know you don't get to see it always.
You have to see it Friday.
This past Friday?
No, this coming Friday.
Because my end piece is why I'm mad at the Democrats
for just what you're talking about.
I should stay for the damn show.
But rather than flying out, I should stay.
I was planning on leaving Friday. Watch it in person. I should come to the damn show. Oh, flying out, I should stay. I was planning on leaving Friday.
Watch it in person.
I should come to the damn show just to watch it.
Just to watch it.
That'd be awesome.
Just to watch it.
You can heckle it.
Absolutely.
You can yell at the screen.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
Now Trump's impressed.
Now Trump's rising.
I can make that joke.
Very rude, very nasty question.
You didn't even say hello.
I couldn't make that joke under Biden.
Now I can make that joke.
All right, so here's the thing.
There are all these white boys who are talking to me about Trump.
He's a terrible racist.
It's like, well, how could the black people vote for him more than each time?
They didn't vote for him a lot more, but men did.
Right, men did.
Okay. And I said, you know what?
I don't want to speak for all black people, and this is where I need to tell you.
You tell me if I was wrong or right. I said, you know what? I don't want to speak for all black people, and this is where I need to tell you. You tell me if I was wrong or right.
OK.
I said, you know what I think black people think
about Trump?
Like, is he a racist?
Yeah, but they think every white person is kind of a racist.
And do they think that white people behind closed doors
talk like Trump?
Yeah, he's just a crazy person.
That last part right there.
That last part right there.
It's not that. It's not that. He just says's just a crazy person. That last part right there. That last part right there. It's not that...
He just says it out loud in person.
As black people, I don't want to speak for all black people, whatever.
No.
Obviously I'm...
Because they're not all alike.
That's right. Exactly. But I will say this to you.
As, you know, being a black man, you don't look at white people and automatically think they're racist. You
automatically know they're different than you, that they think different than you, that
they come from a different cultural background and experience things differently than they
do. So that second part is very, very important because when you talk about how Trump talks,
we're going like this. So that's the first time he talked like that
when he became president.
Who the fuck you think you playing with?
We know better than that.
We know better than that.
We know that ain't the first time
and we know that the people that he was friends with
all of these years, he talked just like that around y'all
and y'all didn't have no problem with it.
Don't act like you have a problem now.
And also had some genuine black friends
and black folks who like him.
Well, let me tell you this. I don't know if I told you.
Because it's complicated. Life is complicated.
I wouldn't call myself his friend by any stretch of the imagination back in the day.
Right.
But I've told this on many occasions. I said this in my recent appearance on The View and stuff like that.
Trump and I were friendly.
Right.
Before he ran for president. He used to have these boxing matches,
particularly during the Tyson fights at the Trump casinos.
He would be at the Knicks games and stuff like that.
And if we're being totally honest,
all the brothers found him to be cool.
Right.
They found him to be very cool.
So it does make sense because he knew his sports, all right?
He would say what he feel.
He bucked the establishment, which we loved,
and we gravitated to that.
And obviously he was a billionaire.
And also he was a certain age.
And it was cool.
And you get a certain understanding
that men, white men of that age, they're
going to be a little grandpa.
We don't say that anymore.
But is he really in his heart hateful? No, I think he's never. I don't think his motivation is, I don't say that anymore. But is he really in his heart like hateful?
No, I think he...
I don't think his motivation is,
I don't like black people.
I think his motivation is, everybody must love me.
Thank you.
And that's right there.
What you just said, everybody must love me.
It's his narcissism. It's not his racism.
I have never called him a racist.
I have never spoken about him that way, ever.
Not one time, not one time, because I knew him beforehand.
And he called me in 2014.
This is a true story.
He says, Stephen A had a secretary,
Mr. Trump is on the line, et cetera, gets on the line.
He says, Stephen A, I'm trying to buy the Buffalo Bills.
Price tag was $1.4 billion.
What year?
2014.
Okay.
All right?
2013, 2014.
The price tag was 1.4 billion.
He had about 1.1 billion.
I was being told he wasn't gonna get the T.
He said, quote,
Steven A, if these motherfuckers get in my way, talking about the NFL owners, if these motherfuckers get in my way, talking about the NFL owners,
if these motherfuckers get in my way,
I'm gonna get them all back.
I'm gonna run for president.
That's what he said.
And some NFL official said, so it's our fault.
Years later, they said, so it's our fault.
And I went like this, uh, yeah,
because had he gotten on the other Buffalo Bills,
he would have been an NFL owner.
But I bring that up, let me tell you the story. Uh, yeah, because had he gotten on the other Buffalo Bills, he would have been an NFL owner.
But I, I, I agree.
Right, right, but I bring that up.
Let me tell you the story.
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If you remember, sports gaming hadn't yet been ruled on by the Supreme Court.
That wasn't until around 2018.
If you get a half a point, a half a percentage point, that translates into billions for owners.
And Trump was making the case and hijacked the whole Colin Kaepernick fiasco just to
get the owners back.
I'm telling you what I know.
Just to get them back.
To get in the way of them getting a hold of their money because they got in the way of
him owning the Buffalo Bills.
And I said, yo, yo, I'm telling you what I know.
I said this on my show, First Take on the ESPN.
I said it on the airwaves all over the place.
Every interview, I said, yo, y'all, he called me.
I'm telling you what I know.
He's going to get him back.
And that's what it was about.
It's fascinating.
It's newsworthy.
And it's completely consistent with what we know about how
he conducts foreign affairs.
I mean, he had a call supposedly, Putin denies it, but I don't know what that's all about.
Like they're going to admit some stuff that we know about?
Yeah, and Zelensky.
And like, he's probably not, he says he's going to get a great deal out of Putin.
I don't know how he's going to get a great deal because Putin already
knows that Trump has a hard-on for Ukraine all because of the same kind of petty grievances
in the past.
So again, that is always the motivating thing, this sort of narcissism.
I've said it a million times.
People talk about narcissism like it's some sort of quirk. It's not a quirk. It's like... It's serious when it comes to him.
It's... I keep trying to tell people... If it was bipolar, people would be
alarmed because that word, oh my god, it's similar. Let me make a little news
here.
Black people, minorities in this country that called him a racist,
did him a favor when they did that.
Interesting.
They did him a favor because it galvanized his base to say,
oh, we don't want to hear that.
Look at the economy. Look at the borders.
Look at crimes in the streets of America.
We don't want to hear that.
And he's able to easily dismiss that
because on too many occasions you saw him on camera
very comfortable with minorities.
So because of that, the visual that you talk about,
it played a role because he knew he had a portfolio of appearances with black folks
throughout decades where you had no problem with him then.
How all of a sudden you're going to bring up rent control issues in 1973.
That's not going to work.
That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. If you're gonna bring up him in the 1970s,
when his daddy owned apartment complexes
and minorities was in those complexes,
then don't you have to bring up Biden
and his relationship with Senator Byrd?
You know what I'm saying?
Who was from West Virginia, who died at the age of 97,
that was in office until he was about 97,
who by the way was a former member of the Ku Klux Klan.
You have to bring that up.
Don't you have to bring up the 90s
when you had the Congressional Black Caucus,
and you talking about the crime bill that Clinton pushed through
that Biden was so vociferous about?
You have to bring this stuff up, or you're
going to bring up Trump in the 70s.
So I'm listening to people, and I'm like,
are you trying to win, or or you just trying to make noise? Because he's going
to get past this. That strategy is not going to work.
But that is one of the big things Democrats should be looking in the mirror, as I keep
saying about, is that they don't call out their own. And by the way, I've lost a lot of fans.
I've gained a lot, too.
And I lost a lot who just don't want to abide somebody
who is making any sort of critique of the left.
Sorry, I just fell.
Did you just?
Just fell.
Sorry.
Was that back there for years?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Man, I got to tell you, man, as an aside, this is very comfortable.
I love doing this.
I love doing it with you.
I love doing this, man. I mean, this is the only time I drink on camera.
Me too.
This is the only time I drink on camera.
We're birds of a feather. But, okay, but like, take for this, for example, Doug Emhoff.
Yep.
The first, supposedly, or on a verge of being the first man.
Yes, that guy.
The first man was Adam.
Well, you know what I'm saying.
He would be the first gentleman.
You know what I'm saying.
The first gentleman.
They have a title for him.
My bad.
My bad.
First gentleman.
The first gentleman.
OK.
And someday there will be one.
And there could have been one by now.
But the Electoral College stopped Hillary.
I mean, she got more votes than him.
So you can't say, oh, Americans wouldn't vote for a woman.
They did.
They did.
The popular vote.
It gave her the majority.
2.6.
She's not president because people hate women in this country.
She's not president because of the electoral college.
Which, by the way, diluted Obama's argument talking to black men about Kamala Harris.
Hillary Clinton got 2.686 million more popular votes than Trump.
She lost the Electoral College vote, but she won the popular vote.
In the case of Kamala Harris, it's like, wait a minute,
what are you talking about misogyny, chauvinism?
I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that.
I love Obama. Love him. Vote for him twice.
Me too. Don't want to hear that. He's my want to hear that. I love Obama. Love him. Vote for him twice. I don't want to hear that.
He's my favorite.
Yeah, yeah. He's my favorite.
Because he's a practical centrist.
And a good man.
And also, like, did the most difficult thing,
getting elected the first black president,
and then, like, giving them nothing to, like, get him on.
Zero. For eight years.
When you know that they were looking so hard
and he had to be, talk about like Caesar's wife.
Hold on, hold on.
I don't wanna objectify anybody.
That's easy to do when you got a first lady
that look like that.
Oh stop it.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I mean we're being real right?
We're being real right?
I'm just saying.
You know that Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman.
Yeah, she is.
It's real easy to avoid giving folks ammunition when you're coming home to that lady.
I feel like you're really over-emphasizing that point.
I mean, she's an attractive woman, and I don't think that made any difference in anything,
because I think there was some percentage of people
who just did not like the idea of a black family
eating off the good China.
I'm not going to objectify the former First Lady
of the United States.
What I will say to you is this, though.
The backdrop of that, respectfully,
the Gary Hartz of the world, the John Edwards of the world,
former presidential candidates on the Democratic side,
whose dalliance is, whose behavior...
Wainer.
I'm just saying, Wainer's...
Clinton.
I'm just saying, Clinton, of course.
But I'm just talking about, at that time, before Trump,
that derailed you from the White House.
Right.
See, Obama preceded Trump.
That's the only reason I bring up Michelle Obama.
Because the thing that could bring you down,
that could get you in the throes of controversy
was your behavior, and obviously those individuals got themselves in trouble. Because the thing that could bring you down, that could get you in the throes of controversy,
was your behavior, and obviously those individuals
got themselves in trouble, and Obama didn't.
John Edwards was fucking his filmographer.
How about that?
And there's a tape of him going down on her
when she was pregnant.
I didn't know that.
Because everyone loves to see a politician kiss a baby.
That's a little bit, that's a little bit.
Oh, my God. I got it, I got it.
I'm not going there.
One of my favorite jobs.
I'm not going there, okay?
Okay, but Doug Emhoff,
listen to my point about the Democrats.
They just countenance no self-reflection
or no critique of their own.
And that's why a lot of them hate me.
And they go fuck themselves.
Thank you for saying that.
Yeah, because first of all, I was right.
I warned them about Trump first off,
more than anybody at the, especially for-
You were the first to warn this country
about that he wasn't gonna leave office.
And I was right and warned them about
what was going to get him re-elected.
Your stupid, over-the-top wokeness.
They hate that.
So, and they just will not countenance
any sort of self-reflection.
Doug Emhoff, okay, was credibly accused,
I'm not saying it's true, we never know in these cases,
but was credibly accused during the campaign
by a woman of being rough with her.
Yes. If it was Trump they would have been all over it. I mean if it was any Republican.
If it was any Republican they would have been all over it. I mean it's not that different than what
Brett Kavanaugh or these and it's like it just didn't and on Saturday Night Live a guy plays
Doug Emhoff but he's just funny, kind of weird, nerdy Doug.
You don't bring up any of that.
It's like nothing to see here because you shut in to only watch MSNBC.
We'll never hear about it anyway.
So we just don't know.
And it's like, you know, look what it got you.
The only defense I have against that is that he wasn't running for office.
She was.
So in that regard, fine, Trump is running for office. She was. So in that regard, fine.
Trump is running for office, he's not.
It's his wife.
But having said that, the bottom line,
had that been a Republican, you would have pounced.
See, again, again, again.
Everybody would have pounced.
Listen, listen.
I know the guys.
I've known Sean Hannity for 20 years.
Megyn Kelly, I'm a fan of him.
By the way, I love y'all conversation,
y'all back and forth. I have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly. I'm a fan of them. By the way, I love y'all conversation, y'all back and forth.
I have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly.
I think that she's smart.
She's on it.
She's smart.
She's wrong about Trump.
She could be wrong, but she's fact.
At least she has a fact.
At least she owned it.
When I said to her, you know,
we'll see if you guys theory that he just says shit.
We'll see if that doctrine comes true.
And she didn't go, fuck you.
She went, yeah, you know, it's possible.
Right.
And I appreciate that.
Now, what I say to those kind of people now is,
if it does turn out that his, he just says shit doctrine
is more than just talk, will you admit it?
Did you see what she said about you?
Will you admit it?
Did you see what she said about you, Megyn Kelly?
Because let me tell you what she said about you.
She said basically the same thing you said about her.
Very attractive.
She respected where you came from,
she respected your position,
she didn't think that you were right,
but it was a healthy debate, et cetera.
Because to be honest with you,
the kind of conversation you two had,
see I don't consider myself on that level because I'm not as knowledgeable about politics as either
one of you but I look at her and the conversation that she had with you and
I'm like this that's what the hell I want a damn presidential debate to be.
First of all I think you know what time it is. I do. Time to go. No. But you know, she's not really my type, but she's pretty hot.
I like, you know, I mean, she's not your type, whatever.
I like thick women.
I like Michelle Obama.
I like Michelle Obama.
It's like you just-
That's a different level.
You can imagine that that political passion, if just somehow turned.
Right.
How about that?
How about that?
And, you know- Use your imagination. I'm telling you, you know- I understand. passion if just somehow it turned. Right. How about that? How about that?
And you know.
Use your imagination.
I'm telling you, you know.
I understand.
I think every man, no, maybe not every man.
Not every man, but most.
But most.
But most.
Knows that, you know.
Most heterosexuals.
You can get a woman in a good mood with sex.
Let's just put it that way.
They're in a bad mood.
Or you could get them're in a bad mood.
Or you could get them in a very bad mood
if you don't handle your business.
You gotta get the job done.
Let's just call it what it is.
You gotta get the job done.
Absolutely. If you pass out some weak shit,
that's gonna really.
That's a wrap. That's a wrap.
You gotta handle your business.
You gotta handle your business.
I'm fully aware of this.
I'm fully aware. No. I'm fully aware.
No, that's something I learned in my 20s.
In 20s, it's hard to stop a hard-on from happening.
But a couple of times, you're like,
I was nervous or something, and I just did not perform well.
And like, no.
And let's quote, can we be honest?
And that was like, that was a wrap.
Can we be honest, this man?
Like, there's no second. When you don't handle your business, right?
There's one or two things that happen.
You either don't, you're either not equipped enough
to handle your business, or you know,
you're a bit fast, you're a bit fast.
You're in and you're out, you understand what I'm saying?
You don't handle your business.
And either way does not work.
But the woman, I'm saying.
But if you handle your business,
it's amazing the profound impact that you can have. If you don't handle your business,
trust me, in the future you will be handling your business. How about that? You will be doing it.
Because I'm saying the woman in this question, I would not make generalizations about all women except for this one. If you
don't do it right the first time, there is no second time. This happened twice to me.
I don't need it to happen more. I'm not. Bill?
You do not. And I don't blame them. They're like, why would it be better the second time?
We on Club Rend? And maybe it would.
We on Club Rend. Actually, it would be better because I wouldn't
be maybe so nervous.
Or maybe I'd be like Aaron Judge.
I'd be like, oh my gosh, if I blow the World Series again,
it's going to be even worse.
We are on Club Random.
Because that is true with athletes.
Like the more the pressure, the more you suck,
the more the pressure builds.
I must confess.
Right?
I must confess, Bill.
It's only happened on a couple of occasions.
But there were a couple of occasions, Bill, where,
dare I say, I didn't handle my business.
Everybody fails one.
I mean, it was like, yo, I mean, you know.
And the commercial came on and it was over,
and the commercial was over and I was done. I mean, it was quick. I mean, Bill know, the commercial came on and it was over and the commercial was over and I was done.
I mean, it was quick. I mean, building has happened, okay?
But they were kind enough to give me a second chance.
Oh, really?
And I made it happen. That is true. I mean, I can't deny that.
It's not.
I can't deny that.
You will get a second.
I'm talking about not really being able to perform
because whatever your nervousness or whatever,
just bug got in your dick.
But there's a difference between that and coming too soon.
When I was young, I remember that happening.
That can be almost a compliment.
I remember once having sex with a girl
and then we watched our favorite show, 59 Minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's some other.
59 Minutes.
She was done in 60 seconds.
Some other comic.
I've never been that bad.
That's some other comic.
I've never been that bad.
That's some other comic's joke.
I can't remember who from back in my early days
and showing up, but it was a funny joke.
Yeah.
But yeah, that can be forgiven, because it's almost complementary that you've caught you.
But you gotta remember, Bill, as a man, you don't know if that woman is going to find that
forgiving until she does.
Oh, no, you don't know.
So as a result, you like pray, like, oh, God, I hope she give me a second chance because
she's just gonna go out and talk about, oh, he wasn't shit.
You don't know. He was know, you don't want that reputation
You don't know anything that they're thinking when you're young like now if I talk to a girl in her 20s
I know exactly what she's thinking
When I was that age with the advent of you that's right and our time but in it with the advent of social media
You're damn right. You know what they thinking now
Hell yes in your 20s. Hell, you know what they thinking now. Hell yes, in your 20s.
Hell you know what they thinking in their teenage years.
It's bad out there, bro.
What are you saying, because they put it all on social media?
Because they put everything on social media.
Yeah, but are they being honest on social media?
Okay, that's fine, but a lot of people believe
they're being honest, so when they talk shit about you,
what is their belief?
You're stuck with the reputation.
I think what they're putting out on social media
is just this sort of fog screen of the life
they want you to think they're living.
Right, that's fair.
It's just, I mean that's one reason
why that generation is so fucked up.
And it's also convoluted because there are those of us
who have social media accounts, who have YouTube channels,
who have podcasts, et cetera.
We've done it, we've been in the business.
We've accomplished what we've accomplished.
But it's convoluted by an abundance of people who haven't accomplished shit
and are using social media to come across as if they have accomplished something.
And it's hard for the audience at times to dissect who's who
unless they really, really know you.
They know Bill Maher, they know Stephen A.
They don't know a lot of people.
But that generation, there's so many ways to be rich
and either sort of famous or famous for a minute
by doing nothing, crypto, influencer.
It's no wonder that none of these kids, like
really, you know, I guess this is, you know, because I live in LA and I see this
sort of world of NEPO babies and trust fund kids when you're out. Right. That like
I loved your new rules on NEPO babies by the way. Oh, that's because that was about
sports. You did a great job on that. I on that one. I was nice. Thank you did a great job
I love that one. Yes started here in a conversation with Bob Costas and
Ronnie James yeah is the one who fucked it up
Yeah, because the point of it for people who didn't see it is that sports the last place where you can have
trust that it's not
Nepal babies like Everything else even modeling now Nepal babies where you can have trust that it's not Neppo babies.
Like everything else, even modeling now, Neppo babies.
But certainly politics always was, show business is rife with them.
Everything is Neppo babies except sports.
You could always count on the fact that the best,
the 600 players in the NBA were the best in the world,
not just in America. And Ronnie James is not one of the 600 best players.
Let me, first of all, I agree with you.
Let me tell you what the real problem was
with the whole Bronny James things.
And I love this kid and I love his-
Not against him.
Not against him, his mama, his,
listen, LeBron James won the top two players
in the history of basketball.
He's on the Mount Rushmore basketball.
He's absolutely amazing, okay?
And a good dude as well.
Let me explain where they messed up about Bronny.
LeBron James has done so much for this league.
Him wanting the moment of being in an NBA game
with his son is not the crime.
Here's what the crime was, Bill.
You have that moment on opening night.
At that moment, Bronnie James, you know, you belong in the G league.
Go to the G league.
Right.
You know why you here.
Listen, this was important to my dad. My dad is phenomenal. He's done so much to the G League. You know why you here. Listen, this was important to my dad.
My dad is phenomenal.
He's done so much to the game.
And the one thing that he dreamed of having
was me on a basketball court for an NBA game with him.
Ladies and gentlemen, now that I got this moment,
it's time for me to go and earn my stripes.
I didn't earn it at USC because I wasn't there long enough.
Right, I'm a high school All-American
averaging 14 points a game, right,
which is better than most of us, by the way,
but still, high school All-Americans
usually are doing more than that.
All Bronnie James had to do,
and I understand that that's a lot to put on a kid
that's 19 years old or so,
but all Bronnie James had to do was say,
now it's time for me to go to the G League, y'all. I gotta earn my stripes.
Then a Bill Maher and others can't come out and say what they said.
But because he was soaking it all in, right? And one game after another,
you're traveling with the team, you're in uniform, and you're taking up one of those roster spots.
Now it brings in the question of meritocracy and what was religiously associated with the NBA,
which is why your point was not only on point because factually you were correct,
but your timing was impeccable.
See, you didn't wait.
You know, it wasn't like six months later or anything.
No, you were right there, week one.
Like, wait a minute, y'all.
Wait a minute now.
Let's not act like, and you were right.
Two years ago.
Yeah.
I even said in the piece, it's funny,
I even said in the piece,
everybody wants to see Ronnie James
in the league with his father.
So you spoke about Ronnie James two years ago.
Two years ago.
I didn't know that, Bill.
I didn't know that.
That's when I did that piece,
and I said, everyone wants to see it,
but he won't make it unless he's good enough.
And then they fucked that up.
And I even mentioned Doc Rivers kid plays,
but not because he's Doc Rivers kid.
But Austin Rivers.
Because he's good enough to play in the league. Austin Rivers was good enough to play in the league.
Austin Rivers was good enough to be on an NBA roster,
especially defensively.
And coming out of Duke, playing at Duke, and being drafted,
he earned those stripes.
No, he was an NBA player.
He was an NBA player.
Not a superstar, but an NBA player.
Yes, he was.
Absolutely true.
So look, the 12th guy on the team, does he play anyway?
No. But he just, it adulterated something that was pure.
And then the last thing that was pure.
And by the way, I gotta say the Lakers,
it made me just think the Lakers,
first they take a season where they just give it up
to a farewell to Kobe.
Kobe, who earned it? Come on. What? Really? Take a season where they just give it up to a farewell to Kobe. Kobe.
Who earned it?
Come on.
Really?
You earned the team giving you a season of…
Because you had nothing else.
It's not…
But shouldn't you start trying to rebuild something else?
What I'm saying is they were cap strapped.
They had a lot of errors that they had made with the Jim Busse error because he was busy
at Hooters instead of running the fucking team.
But the point that I'm trying to make to you is that,
it looked bad, that was true.
But in the same breath, every team,
once they win a number of championships,
ultimately decline.
Because once that wears off, you don't get good draft picks,
you're not in good draft positions,
you're not necessarily getting those free agents.
So that was totally different.
That was totally different.
But you know what phrase I've heard enough of
for a lifetime is, I gave to the game.
You know what?
You gave to you.
No one's putting a gun to your head and making you play.
And you didn't play for free.
And you barely played for free.
Yes, you sacrificed your body.
That was your choice.
By the way, as an aside, before I forget,
you know who watches this podcast? Commissioner Adam Silver. When I was here
last time. He's been a long time. When I was here last time he was the first call I
received. No. When you posted the podcast my last appearance he was the first call
I received he loved it. There's a guy who watches every week real-time he loves
that. No I know I love Adam Silver and I think he's done an amazing job. He has.
Yeah, he has.
And it's not an easy job because players
are very different than they were 20 years ago.
Even coaches say, you can't yell at
this generation of players.
Right.
I think you can.
I think personally you can.
You better have a lot of stature.
There you go, there you go.
You're Eric Spolster, you're Steve Kerr.
People like that, you can yell at players.
If you're a coach with significantly less cash,
you better shut the fuck up.
You better tread lightly.
Otherwise it's gonna be a problem.
So Aaron Rodgers was here.
Yep.
But I don't know.
I love Aaron Rodgers.
I do too.
But he's having an awful season.
Awful.
It's just as a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, and Jets too.
I mean, when I was a kid, people always say,
we were Giants or a Jets fan.
I said, we were both.
Why wouldn't we be?
We were in New York area, that would know the teams.
Why shouldn't I avail myself?
We were thrilled when Joe Namath won it in 69.
But it's a damn shame that they haven't won since 89.
I learned football watching the Giants on my father's knee.
If I had to pick, it would be the Giants first,
because there's a sentimental value.
I took my father to the Super Bowl when it was out here in 86
against the Broncos in Pasadena, using my last bit
of checking account money to get him out here and get a ticket to that game,
nosebleed seats, but we were,
but he was a giant fan since they were inception practically.
So, you know, but we had such hopes for the Jets
and you know, is it just that time caught up
because they thought they had a great roster?
Aaron Rodgers, respectfully
Aaron Rodgers fucked up
Here's how this happened
in Green Bay
He is spectacular. I think that Aaron Rodgers is one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL
Four time MVP. As a talent. That's a lot. That's a lot of MVP for him.
That's fair.
But he hasn't been back to the Super Bowl
since he won it in 2010.
Yeah, not all his fault.
So of course not.
Of course not.
But what I'm saying is that when you're in Green Bay,
you're letting everybody know that the organization doesn't
appreciate you enough.
They don't appreciate you enough.
They don't appreciate your football IQ.
They don't appreciate your evaluation of talent.
They don't appreciate your greatness
that you've displayed at Lambeau Field,
on the football field for them for over a decade.
And you say, you've given every indication
you want to be appreciated.
You want to be respected.
You want to be given the level of deference
that others, to say Tom Brady's the Peyton Man,
is John Edwards of the world, and others have received.
And the Jets give it to you.
And this is the result.
Now last year doesn't count
because you got hurt the fourth play of the game.
The fourth play of the game.
Yeah, yeah.
Game one of the NFL season.
You can't control getting injured
and all of this other stuff.
But you've been there this year,
and your offense has sucked.
And oh, by the way.
Why?
Well.
What is it that, what went wrong?
I think they had a defensive mind of coach Roger Salah
that you didn't have an offensive mind,
and you deferred to Aaron Rodgers.
You deferred to what he said he defer to what he said he needed,
what he said he wanted, what he said would work,
and then you went out and got your ass kicked.
Now that's where it hurts.
Now if you had an offensive mind.
But why doesn't Aaron Rodgers know?
He knows as well as anybody.
Like he couldn't be an offensive coordinator
in the league right now.
You have people who believe, Bill,
like you have producers and editors and stuff like that
working on your podcasts and your shows.
Yeah, you're the last say,
but you're gonna know how and when to be deferential.
If you are somebody like an Aaron Rodgers
who was never in a position
where anybody had to be that way towards you,
and then suddenly you're empowered.
Now it becomes a bit tricky because ultimately you want to make all the damn decisions. Now he'll deny it, but nobody believes him.
Nobody believes, like for example,
Woody Johnson, the former ambassador to the great Britain, by the way,
under the Trump administration, also suddenly he comes back to the Trump,
suddenly he comes back to the New York Jets as the owner.
He takes over from his brother,
who he relinquished control to for the time
that he was being the ambassador to the Great Bidder.
Suddenly he's gonna come back in the folder.
He's gonna say, yo, I'm gonna fire Robert Sala,
whatever, whatever, talking to Aaron Rodgers.
Nobody believes that.
Alan Lazar comes from Green Bay to the New York Jets.
You had nothing to do with that?
Nobody's gonna believe that.
You think Devonte Adams coming to the New York Jets, you had nothing to do with that? Nobody's gonna believe that. You think Devontae Adams coming to the New York Jets,
all right, after not being there,
and depart from Green Bay to be with the Los Angeles?
We know you had something to do with that.
Plainly, Aaron Rodgers was playing
General Manager of the Jets.
Without question.
And that's where his legacy is going to be heard.
That's interesting, that's interesting.
So you're saying they gave too much power.
No, I'm not saying they did,
because I would have given it to him too. I'm saying once he got it, he messed up
Like we got a call balls and strikes at the end of the day. They weren't wrong for giving him the power
You were wrong with the decisions you made once you had the influence the influence that you swore you deserved and when you got it
You didn't produce results.
Boy, being an athlete is like being a hot chick.
I mean, it goes fast.
Like, you have your peak where all the guys
are buzzing around you.
What?
I gotta admit to you, bro, I see some honeys out here
that's in their 50s looking better than honeys
in their 20s and 30s.
I can't say that, Bill.
That's still ridiculous, but okay.
That's not ridiculous!
It is ridiculous.
Bill, there's some sisters.
I'm gonna speak for some of the black women out here.
Maybe in the picture in Us Magazine,
but come on, let's get real.
This is Club Random.
I mean, the corruption of the flesh happens to us all.
We're just not as physically attractive
In our 50s as in our 20s. In our 20s you have to almost work to not be
Can I ask you a personal question?
Uh oh
Can I ask you a personal question?
Do you? I mean we on Club Randa right? We on Club Randa
Do you like voluptuous women?
No
You don't?
No
Really? No What's wrong with you? Am Iuous women? No. You don't? No. Really?
No.
What's wrong with you?
What am I, am I under oath?
No, I don't.
What's wrong with you?
I mean, I gotta take a drink on that.
What's wrong with you?
What's wrong with you?
I mean, hips, thighs, legs, ass.
Alright, I'll say it.
I'm white.
Okay, so you like them real thin.
You like them real thin and skinny.
I like what they call an athletic body, swimmer's body.
Yes.
I mostly fuck small boys.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
That's ridiculous.
I'm just saying to you.
I'm not saying most, because you're absolutely right.
For the most part, you're absolutely right.
But I got to tell you, there's some women out here
in their 40s and 50s that look better than they
looked when they were in their 20s and 30s.
To you.
Everything is to you or to me. But I find that ridiculous. I mean, it's certainly
not. I wish I could put them on first so I could show you the evidence. Because I have
evidence, Bill. Evidence. I've seen your evidence. I know you got a heart on from Michelle Obama
and it's great that you have your thing. I don't have a heart on from Michelle Obama and it's great that you have your thing because... I don't have a hard on for her.
I mean, she's just...
Well, I mean, I'm just saying she's a beautiful woman.
She's a beautiful woman.
Yes, I agree.
But, you know, they...
But Picasso used to sleep with very young women
and, you know, they tried to come after him about that.
They should have.
And his...
I'm sure they should have if they were underage.
Yes.
But his response was,
I'm an artist!
I think I know what beauty is, okay?
Get out of my studio.
And you know, look, I look at pictures of myself
when I'm younger.
I'm better looking.
I'm sorry, I can't pretend.
I will say this to you.
For me, can I speak about me personally?
I definitely feel that way about me in my 20s.
Me in my 30s and my 40s,
I think I look better now than I did then.
And then I looked over the last 20, 25 years.
You're the luckiest guy in the world.
I am very lucky.
If you like women in that age range,
because you're getting the best of both worlds.
If you find them the most attractive,
they're also like, of course, easier to deal with usually
because they're more world-seasoned, smarter.
So with older women?
Yes.
Oh, we don't agree on that.
They're not world-
I will accept the fact-
They're not smarter?
No, no, they're definitely smarter.
Okay.
I'm talking the easier to deal with.
Oh, hell to the no.
Well, not if you get it.
Hell to the no.
I mean easier to deal with in the sense of like,
girls who are 20 are like, you know, my pussy is golden.
And girls who are 50 are like, are we going to do it or what?
I find.
But you missed.
But it's like, here's where you messed up.
Here's where you messed up.
You missed the 30s and the 40s where they do think it's golden.
Like, ain't nothing better than this, okay?
And it's like, you do understand
there's a billion out there
that could potentially be better.
You do understand.
So you never got married, right?
Never.
Me neither.
Never.
We're like the last two.
I will say to you that eventually I think I will because it's more than being single
and being able to, you know, sex whoever I want.
I'm beyond that.
I'm beyond that.
I've had my promiscuous years and they were lovely.
I must say.
Why do they have to end?
Let's get a toast to that.
Let's get a toast to that.
Why do they have to end? It really, really was lovely.
And I can say that respectfully because I wasn't a liar.
I wasn't one of those dudes that was a liar.
I would let somebody know, look, this is where I'm at.
If you're with me, this is what you get.
I'm not that dude.
But I will tell you. I still don't know why we have to bury Lovely. But I will tell you that, you know, when you get older,
yes, you know, there is something to be said about,
you know, that companionship, that person
that you want to be around.
Oh, I'm very different.
And here's the biggest thing for me,
and I don't know whether you agree with me or not,
but I'm interested in hearing how you feel about this.
Bill, to me, and I had to tell my little nephew,
his ignorant ass, because he just doesn't know anybody,
he's clueless, but I'm here for him.
He's about 35, my nephew, Josh.
I thought I heard, he's picturing a 10 year old.
No, no, no, no, no, no, he's ignorant as shit.
But I love him to death, he's like a son to me,
but he's my nephew.
And I'm like, here's what happens.
You get to a point, and I say to him,
forget the woman that excites you.
It's the woman you're comfortable being bored with.
I could not disagree more.
Really?
Yeah.
You really feel that way?
I not only feel that way,
I feel like I've learned that lesson the hard way.
You can pretend that that's the thing.
I remember when I got to a certain age and I thought, oh yeah, you know what?
I'm not needing to have sex 24-7 anymore.
Sex is great, but no, I could be a thousand years old, and even if it's
just one minute a week, it's still, water flows downhill.
It's just the heart wants what it wants.
I don't know.
I agree with that part.
It's just the glue that holds things together.
For me, anyway, and when you don't have the glue, I've told this story before, but I said
to a girl once, you know, it's like the relationship is the plane
and the sex is the fuel.
Hold on, let's not, let me not mess up with your audience
by acting like I was talking about sex being boring.
That is not what I was talking about.
I'm not talking about the sex,
the sex got to be what it needs to be.
I'm talking about you upstairs watching Law and Order.
She's downstairs watching whatever.
It doesn't matter to you, is what I'm saying.
You don't have to be under one another.
You see, I'm saying the sex has to be good.
There has to be a level of compatibility.
That's when you should be under one another.
During the sex.
But I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to be a level of compatibility. That's when you should be under one another. There you go. But I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to be
all excited by her 24-7 outside of the bedroom.
That's true, but that's why I've never really lived
with anybody or thought that was a great idea
because I feel like I don't wanna see people
at their worst and I don't want them to see me at my worst.
Like, a lot of life is disgusting.
The bathroom, I could go on.
Excuse me for asking, how many siblings do you have?
One.
Okay. I have five.
Yeah.
Four older sisters.
So when you talk about not seeing them at their worst,
I grew up accustomed to seeing folks at their worst.
Yeah, but I grew up also like smelling other people's shit.
We had one bathroom that we all use.
It's like, you know, it's just what it is.
My mother was like, Mother Teresa,
let aunts, uncles, cousins and stuff like that
come live with us.
So, you know, we only had one working bathroom.
So I've seen women without makeup,
the hair's not done.
And I don't care.
It doesn't faze me.
My whole point is this,
when we go out, are you ready?
Are you ready?
I'm not saying going into a bathroom
after someone else has just taken a shit
is the worst thing in the world.
Yeah, but it's pretty close.
Exactly.
Yes.
It's pretty close.
You took the word right out of my mouth.
It's just about the worst thing in the world.
It's pretty close.
It's pretty close. It's pretty close.
But I'm just saying for me personally,
it's like as I've gotten older, you know,
and I'm happy about it, Bill,
because here's what I don't want.
I'm 57, how old are you?
I'm 35.
Okay, yes sir.
Here's my deal.
I don't want to be one of those dudes in my 60s.
Me neither.
At the club. At the neither. At the club.
At the club.
At the club.
Hoping, praying, that I wanted to,
I don't want to be that dude.
I like the fact that-
That's why you have to be a success in life.
That's right.
Because otherwise you have to be at the club.
That's right, because when you're successful,
they'll come to you, then you don't have to go to them.
To a degree, that's true.
Like there's a certain point in life
where I think it's very fair to say,
I've been chasing girls all my life.
Now it's time for you to chase me.
I don't chase.
Exactly.
I don't chase.
Right.
First of all, if you do, you just look bad.
Yeah.
You can't chase.
I'm not doing that.
At our age.
I'm not doing that at all.
It's just unseemly.
No.
Hello, how you doing? You look very, very beautiful. I hope you have a wonderful day. Keep it moving. Well, that. At our age. I'm not doing that at all. It's just unseemly. No.
Hello, how you doing?
You look very, very beautiful.
I hope you have a wonderful day.
Keep it moving.
Well, that's kind of chasing.
That's not chasing.
That's not chasing.
Keep it moving.
Even that.
Once you say beautiful, you're kind of hitting on somebody.
I'm just saying.
No, no.
Not at all.
You're putting it out there.
Not at all.
I've seen women who are maybe had a ring in their finger.
Would you say it to me?
No.
If you wouldn't say it to a man, it's flirting.
They're all... If you wouldn't say it to a man, it's flirting.
I'm not a homosexual, so I wouldn't say that to a man.
Again, this is not what I read in the bio.
Oh, you please.
You damn sure should.
But I'm just saying, no, no, no.
Am I getting bad information in this part?
To each their own.
You damn sure didn't read that in the bio.
But I'm just saying to you that I have no problem being, I've been complimented reading
many women I've had no interest in whatsoever. I'm just like, you that I have no problem being I've been complimented reading many women
I've had no interest in whatsoever. I'm just like yo, you the nice outfit. You look good. Whatever
You keep it moving. There's no big deal
But I'm not I can tell you this much. I don't give a damn how fine you are
I have stopped I stopped chasing more than a decade ago
Well, let me tell you if your thing is women in their 50s and you put it out there.
From the 50s, 40s?
Well, you just said.
You know, 50s, 40s?
I'm telling you.
I got flexibility.
You just.
I got a girl, so I'm good.
OK.
OK.
Let me throw that out there.
Right.
By the way, that makes you even more attractive to them.
That's right.
One thing women hate is a guy who doesn't have someone
who they have to get rid of.
Two things.
Two things. Two things.
That, you're right on the money, no matter what they're willing to admit.
Here's number two.
I have two daughters.
When they were younger, they're teenagers now, 16 and 15.
When they were younger, oh my Lord, Bill.
I mean, all I had to do was walk in the supermarket or mall, would wander them.
Here's a rap. Pussy trap, yeah.
Oh my God.
Oh yeah.
Oh, I couldn't believe it.
I was like, people, this is really true.
This is really true.
I walked in there with my daughter, it's like a magnet.
Better than a dog.
Absolutely.
Even better than a dog.
Absolutely.
I'm not saying that's a reason to have kids, although, but yeah, there's only one thing
that could make you more attractive than having your daughter in the supermarket.
The wife dead if you were a widower.
Because that shows that you can commit, but you didn't leave her.
Yeah, but here's the problem with that.
Well there is a problem with that.
A conversation. You conversation. No, no. The conversation has
to take place for the person to find out you're a widower. With the child, you don't have
to have any conversation. It could take two seconds. Does this melon look ripe to you?
Yes, my wife is dead. They will not be offended by that.
Oh, no, my dad, man.
You might be right, though.
Does this parsley look fresh?
My wife is dead.
That's all you got to do.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I got a buzz, and I've been drinking.
But go ahead.
No, no.
Yeah, I'm good.
You want to go?
No, man, I'm good.
I'm straight, man. I'm straight. I'm having a good time.
I got about 10 more minutes in me before I go to pee.
Sure. Same here. Same here.
I mean, I got to piss right now,
but I can hold it for the next 10 minutes.
What did we not get to? Do you think that...
Politics. I don't think we got to enough politics.
Great. Politics.
That's your lane.
That's my lane.
That's right. Democrats fucked up.
My candidate that I voted for did not win, but that's happened before.
Same here.
And I'm reading the riot act to the left this week and I'm thrilled about it.
Then we have another show, one more show after that.
That's the end of our season.
So we're doing show Friday the 15th and then the 22nd.
So I'm going to hit the left hard this week,
which I think is absolutely apropos.
I think it is as well.
I completely support you.
I mean, look, there's a lot to hate already
about what the new regime is doing.
I mean, some of the appointments are pretty crazy.
What is it, Hegson from Fox News, the defense secretary?
Yeah.
Can you take a week before you get
apoplectic about what they might do to talk about what
you did do?
Or didn't do.
Or didn't do?
How you fuck this up?
Because my point at the end of this thing, Friday, is that I'm pissed at the Democrats
because my issues, democracy, the environment, have no protectors now.
Because you blew the election.
I have nobody standing up for the two issues that are my issues.
Which is?
Democracy and the environment, my two most important issues.
Those are not priorities in the new administration.
In fact, they're antagonistic to both of them.
So I have no champion in Washington.
They have the courts, they have the House and the Senate,
and you totally left me unguarded.
Here's my issue.
I don't follow hockey, but there's probably
a goalie analogy.
Here's my issue, generally speaking. We can
talk to the economy, immigration, crime in the streets, blah blah blah. Here's my ultimate
issue. The arrogance of the Democratic Party. That's, I'm saying the same thing. Arrogance
of, we're saying the same thing in two different ways. The arrogance of the second Democratic
Party. So Biden doesn't decide to run for reelection. You grease the skid so he doesn't decide to run for reelection.
You grease the skid so he doesn't have to go through a primary.
June 27th, he shows up and he embarrasses himself and positions naturally for the vice
president of the United States, Kamala Harris, to ultimately ascend and become the Democratic
nominee.
But the last time we saw her in a primary, she couldn't make it to Iowa.
Did you really, really think that was going to work?
And then here's what you did.
Did you discuss the economy enough?
No, you could have discussed the border
because unlike Obama, who was quote unquote,
the deported in chiefs, according to the Republicans,
because he deported more immigrants than Trump did.
According to not just Republicans, but Democrats. There were Democrats who called him that.
He deported more immigrants than Trump, which means he just didn't talk about it, but he did it.
Biden walks in the office and day one you sign an executive order that opens the border,
and you let more than 12 million immigrants cross the border illegally and you don't think
that's going to be a problem?
You knew that the governors DeSantis and Florida, Abbott and Texas and others were going to
sit up there and attack sanctuary cities by busing these immigrants to your cities since
you had no problem with it.
You were ill prepared to deal with it, okay?
All of this stuff was going on and I'm looking at it and I'm saying
So your plan for this election
Was to come
To women and say
Forget the economy forget immigration Roe v. Wade was overturned
It's now a states right issue as opposed to a federal issue. You thought that was gonna be enough
You thought it was gonna be enough for you to look at black men and say to black men,
you're misogynistic and chauvinistic and that's the reason why you're not voting for
Kamala Harris? You thought it was going to be enough for the Latinos to bring up immigration
when you're not paying attention enough that the Cubans think different than the Dominicans and
the Dominicans and the Cubans think different than the Colombians and they think different
than the Venezuelans and the Guatemalans
and the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans, et cetera, et cetera.
A lot of these Latinos in America want the borders closed.
You didn't pay attention to that.
You're from California.
You were a district attorney here.
You were a state attorney general here.
You were a senator representing here.
And you didn't know that the Latinos were going to say,
yo, we don't like open borders.
You didn't know that?
And so I'm looking at it and I'm saying,
all of these things are going on.
All of these things are going on.
And your argument essentially was, you didn't say it,
but this is essentially your argument,
it's her turn. It's her turn. No, the Republicans don't play that. They say, hell with all of that
whose turn it is. We want him. Who do the Democrats want? If you ask them today, they still don't know.
They say Kamala because it was too late to say anybody
else. But you didn't know who they would say if there was a primary.
And also because the Democratic Party is ideologically captured by identity politics.
That's about, I'm totally with you 1000%. Listen, I am, I'm a big, Bill, just so you
know, I'm a fiscal conservative, I'm a social liberal.
Live and let live, bro.
And I'm freaking the sheep.
You're not supposed to say that.
If you're filthy, give us a call.
I do try, I do try, I do try, no doubt.
But here's the deal, man.
Listen, I'm a social liberal.
And what I mean by that is gay rights, absolutely.
Transgender rights and all this stuff,
I got no issues
with you. I don't want anybody. I'm a black man. I don't want anybody's civil rights violated.
I don't want anybody being persecuted in the streets of America. I don't want you being
mistreated. I don't want you being denied the same rights that I have. That's fine. But
the Democrats took it too far because it wasn't just about their rights, you wanted folks to like and embrace and accept everything.
Excuse me, there are some people that, guess what? They might watch prostitution,
but they ain't fucking with them. They might like porn stars, but they ain't messing with them.
They might like strippers, but they ain't messing. It's all right, yup, do you. But I don't want it in my face.
You got people that think like that and knowing that that's the reality and knowing that that
doesn't even make up 1% of the population. You are caught on tape if you're Kamala Harris saying, quote,
I'm for transgender operations for prisoners? You didn't think Trump was going to use that?
I'm just saying, like, this is why I say, I voted for Kamala Harris, but I can't deny
that strictly from a campaign perspective, Bill, he was the better candidate because
he played to his constituents.
In their defense, they had a meeting and they decided that free tits for murderers was a good slogan.
Okay. And where did that get them?
Because in the end, when you're trying to pay your bills,
Okay, but here's the-
And you got peace in the streets that you worried about, you're not going for that.
Here's the silver lining.
You're trying to win.
I think. The elections showed we're much less racially tribal than we thought we were.
I mean, Trump is a strange guy to bring together all these different coalitions, but he won
Latino men.
13%.
13?
They said it was a 13% jump.
Oh, okay.
Well, whatever it was.
Latino votes and a 5% jump in a, okay. Well, whatever it was.
And a 5% jump in the black vote, and even more of that amongst black men.
That's what they said.
Yeah.
And did better, you know, young.
I mean, just like, we're not really divided so much along the lines that the media paints
us in.
Right.
We're more of a centrist nation.
The fringes on the Maggots right and the extreme left, the squad and all of that, those are the fringes.
Most of Americans are sent to left or right.
Yeah, and most Americans are just anti-crazy.
You know, I mean, I have a line in the thing I'm doing on Friday that Democrats run campaigns
now like the voters don't live here.
Like they don't live here. And like they don't like go to Starbucks
and the office and the store, you know, like,
and they do and they see women and people of color
and it doesn't look like a racist patriarchy,
patriarchal nightmare.
It doesn't look like that.
And so if that's what the Democrats are selling,
it just-
They don't know what the hell they're selling.
What they want to do, and listen,
I'm just gonna say it plain.
The Democrats have gotten on my last damn nerve.
Me too.
If it wasn't for Trump, I would have voted Republican.
Because I'm so sick of how they are.
It's always about the other side
and engaging in demagoguery for you to get my vote
as opposed to really articulating
what you're bringing to the table to offer me
and my community.
And they're snobby.
And they're snobby.
They don't cater to the working class.
They cater to the elite
and then they accuse the Republicans of doing it.
They won't even listen to them.
There's a lot of stories now in the news
about people who have been stories now in the news about people
who have been saying in the media,
there was this Yale psychologist who said it on CNN,
I think, or maybe it was MSNBC,
that if you have a relative who voted for Trump,
cut them off, don't see them for the holidays.
Don't see them for the holidays.
Really?
That's your, this is what got you into this mess. Exactly. You them for the holidays. That's your, that's your, this
is what got you into this mess. Exactly. You know, take the clothespin off your nose and
talk to the other side of the country because you don't have a monopoly on being smart.
In fact, I could prove how stupid you were on a million things and you wouldn't even
talk to the other side. Educate me about this. I've held this against the Democrats for years
and I've said it publicly.
So let's go to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Obama is in office.
He's there.
You know he's going to select a liberal
to be on a higher court.
You know this.
According to the reports, if they're wrong, I apologize,
but according to the reports, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, former Supreme Court justice, who was approaching
her 80s, if not in her 80s, who had health issues, cancer being one of them,
okay, didn't want to step down at the behest of the Obama administration because she wanted her successor to be selected
by a female.
Now let me say this, Bill, okay?
The Democrats lose me when I never hear them mention that.
And here's why.
Respectfully to this former great Supreme Court justice
who did a lot of good,
you put your own personal preferences
against the interests of the country
according to you and your ideology,
what you believe would best serve this country.
Because you said, you assumed, arrogantly I might add,
Hillary Clinton was going to beat Donald Trump.
And then when Hillary Clinton failed to beat Donald Trump
because he got more of the Electoral College vote
than the popular vote, okay,
the court was able to be swung 6-3 instead of 5-4.
You did that.
They never talk about it.
They never talk about it.
I'm like, wait a minute, y'all.
All she had to do was retire
and let the liberal president
select the Supreme Court justice.
And because you didn't do that,
not only is the court swung 6-3,
it's on a verge of swinging 7-2
because now you got people saying
Sonia Sotomayor is gonna step down
because she's had health issues with diabetes.
She's in her 70s, She's 70 years of age.
Well, she's not.
And that is, listen, you had one pundit literally advocate, she should step down now.
Yeah.
So Biden could insert the liberal, another liberal into the court that's going to be there for years
to come. This is what you've regressed to purely for arrogance. Nothing else.
Obama did have Ruth Bader Ginsburg for lunch when she was Supreme Court justice in a kind of a,
you know, wouldn't it be great to spend more time with the grandkids kind of way?
How about that?
You know, he did try.
Yes, he did.
To move her along.
I'm not blaming him.
I'm blaming her.
I called Biden Ruth Bader Biden.
Yeah, I heard you say that.
A long time before he said it, because I said, you're going to be the Ruth Bader Biden of
presidents.
And that's exactly the case.
I mean, a lot of people are blaming the whole thing on the fact that he wouldn't get out.
And he deserves it.
Embarrassed the party.
Respectfully.
Looked like the party was the party of doddering old men, and then,
you know, as you say, she, look, the whole thing, it is what it is, we are where we are,
and you know, all I can say is, as I conclude here, I'm not going to lose my shit until
it happens.
I did that when the first Trump administration,
I'm not gonna chase every silly thing they say.
I'm just not gonna do it.
Like, could he blow up the world on the first day?
Absolutely.
And put thousands of people in Guantanamo.
I don't know what he could do.
He's too unpredictable.
I don't think he knows what he could do.
But I'm just not gonna lose my nervous system until it happens.
So, and am I pissed off at the people
who put me in this position?
I am.
You were supposed to be my protector
and a lot of people's protectors,
and you blew it with your boutique issues
and your bullshit, woke nonsense
that the country rejected again across
cross lines and
So blacks Latinos whites white women white men right everybody if there's anything good to come out of this
It's that you and I who I read from your bio
Man thank you so much back to work. That's always so much fun you so much. All right. Go back to work.
That's always so much fun.
Now, a handshake won't do it.
It's a lot, buddy.
Appreciate you, man.
Thanks so much, man.
I had a good time, though.
Each other's excuse for getting drunk.
That's right.
For getting drunk.
I'm a little tipsy.
Each other's excuse for getting drunk.
Hey, hey.
That's a bond.
You're the only place. That's a bond. You're the only place where I ever get a little tipsy, no doubt about it.