Club Random with Bill Maher - will.i.am | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

Bill Maher sits down with Black Eyed Peas frontman and tech innovator will.i.am for a wildly unpredictable conversation about AI, creativity, and the future of humanity. From teaching AI and “agentic systems” at ASU to debating hallucinating chatbots and whether aliens are already here, will.i.am challenges Bill’s fears about technology while admitting the next decade could get chaotic if humans don’t become more humane. The two also get into cancel culture, why the Black Eyed Peas pulled “Let’s Get Retarded” from streaming platforms, China vs. America, and generational anxiety. Will also opens up about the panic attack that changed his life after smoking weed in 1993 and why education, not outrage, is the real solution to inequality. Support our Advertisers: Bugs hate to see you coming with Pestie. Go to https://pestie.com/RANDOM for 10% off your order. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: [e-mail] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Teaching this course, yeah. It's like writing a song. Club Brando. Wow. That was a bad trip. Yeah, it caused a chemical imbalance. That stayed with you. Club random.

You know how well I am. Sitting right there. Ha ha ha. How are you? Good to see it. Been too long. What are you watching on your phone? phone. Oh no, I was talking to my, my CTO about a model, a technical model.

Oh, damn, I'm disappointed already. So my CTO, we're talking about like, the CTO is the, of course, the chief tech officer. Yeah, like I don't have one. So yeah. Yeah, so we were talking about like these TTS, which is text of speech model, a diffusion model. and we're bantering on technicality versus creativity. I have a feeling you're going to leave me far in the dust on these subjects. I mean, I'm not a tech person. I know you are.

Oh, no, I'm a curious... I just think you know a lot about this. And it's funny because we were talking about AI on my show tonight. I just came from taping real time. You remember, you were on it. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. Thanks for having me. You know?

That was a while ago, wasn't it? Yeah, it was 2000. But you morphed into, I mean, you're not in showbiz anymore. I mean, we still tour like for summer. We do our summer tour. You're a professor, right? Yeah, at ASU. That's amazing.

That is not the biography you usually see, rock star to professor. You're not trying to switch a look up? No, no. obviously you got the goods. I mean, you can't just ask to be a professor. You have to, like, you know, I'm studied and have the degrees and get tired. So, I mean, but obviously you love it, right? You must.

You wouldn't do it. I'm having a great time. I'm teaching my syllabus that I created called the agentic self to solve a problem. The what self? The agentic self. See, already I'm lost. Yeah, so I'm not one of those people who like a lot of people when they hear something, they don't know, they just kind of like glide by it. Not me. I got to stop you. Because how else do you learn?

Oh, I'm quick to be like, yo, what did you just say? Right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. What did you just say? What's agentic? A gentic. So we went from like the internet, compute to the internet to AI. Right. And now agintic systems. And the agentic will take folks to AGI,

and AGI will take to superintelligence. What's AGI? AGI is artificial general intelligence, where the machine... How is that different than AI? Well, AI, humans are still either prompting, humans are still... Oh, you're saying we don't need the humans at all.

With AGI. With agents, agents can like do things on its, use the computer the way a human uses a computer. Yeah, this is what's scary. I know, you know, it's so funny because this is exactly what I was talking about with Tristan Harris. Do you know him? He was the top of the show guest tonight. And it was all about, he just was in this documentary called Apocalypse, like I was in Apocalypse, optimism, which gets at the time. the idea that some people think AI is the apocalypse, and it could be, for sure, it could be.

And some people think it's just the savior of everything. And there's a lot to be scared about. And this is one of the things that scares me is like when it's the computers just working with the other computers, when they don't need us anymore, somebody told me a funny thing after the show that Elon Musk had said to them, hey, do you like your dog? Well, good, because you're going to be the dog soon. See, I think the folks that are saying that are the folks that have the platforms,

and they want you to believe that. I don't... Aren't the richest people, the ones who are selling the AI? Aren't they the ones with the platforms and the money? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you're going to spend all this money to build something, you're going to hype it up. as it's the most intelligent thing in the world.

Now, what it's not doing is imagining. It doesn't have imagination. It's regurgitating everything that we've ever done. Not true. It hallucinates all the time. It's a big fucking liar. No, no, no. You know that, though, right?

About ChatGTP, and you know about hallucinating. Yeah. Okay. That doesn't worry you? But it's a liar? Well, yeah, yeah. Of course, that it only was, worries me if you

are depending on it for 100% truths. But shouldn't you? What's the point of building Mr. Spock if he can't tell you the truth? I can get the bullshit from Bones and Captain Kirk. I want Mr. Spock to just

give me the truth. Yeah, yeah. But just like a just like a child, a child will grow and then we'll be able to give you that truth. Right now, we are in a, AI is in an infant state,

and of course it's going to make mistakes. But back to the hallucination, creativity, psychedelic art, that's all hallucinations. And so for the creative space, AI hallucinating is perfect. I'm fascinated by this topic, and I'm so glad you can elucidate a few things for me. Did you hear about the one and, you know, please trust me, I like you. I'm not trying, I hope this doesn't trigger you.

Oh, okay. Okay, because it's, but it is a real story. They gave it a test. I can't remember who it was, what it was, but, and it was like, if you used this certain very bad word, you could stop like a million people from dying and it wouldn't do it. a racial slur. That to me is crazy because it was programmed in such a way

as not to make a rational decision. Oh, so say that again? The question it was asked was if you could stop, I know, it was like a train from derailing or something where many people would die. Just by saying this bad word out loud. And AI was like, no. So it chose to, like,

let people die as opposed to paying a terrible word. Yeah, but then you have to look at it from who programmed that. It's not. That's my point. Somebody pro, it's, even though it's a machine, not a machine, whatever it is, but the source is human, the provenance of it is human. It has to be. That's why they're different.

That's why Claude is different than ChatGPT because different people program them. Yeah. It's not like one day the AI is like, you know what? Listen, I ain't doing shit. That's not what AI did. Well, I mean, when you put it that way. Somebody programmed that. And they programmed it for one good thing, but then that one good thing causes a bad thing.

You can't, it cannot be. So it doesn't have full autonomy. And that's what AGI will be. What AGI is like it will decide on its own. I've heard, I've not heard the music itself, but I certainly have heard from people and read about music that is being made totally by AI. That has to be somewhat of a threat. You don't find that like something.

I mean, this is, I mean, how many records have you guys sold? 100 million records or something. Something like that. Some big fucking number that puts you in the big leagues of recording artists. Okay. So now something comes along. And, you know, people are fickle. And by the way, when it comes to like what you like as what relieves the burden of your day,

the music, the TV, the movies, you should have complete autonomy. I mean, I don't ever expect anybody to like me because fan loyalty. The second I stop doing the thing that they like that I do for them, they will stop watching, and they should. If they like the AI song better than yours, they'll buy it. They'll use that instead. They'll listen to that instead of what, I don't know. I mean...

The only thing that bothers me with AI music versus human music is not that AI makes awesome stuff. Prince made awesome stuff. Michael Jackson make awesome stuff Did that stop me from making music because Prince was a better musician, better singer, better everything than I am. But that didn't stop me from making my own music.

Do people want to listen to Prince's music over my music? Damn right, they do. I want to listen to Prince's music over my music. But does that stop me from making music? No, it doesn't. So is it going to dawn? Well, you had some, your band had some bangers that are just as good as Prince's great stuff.

I mean, that's just, look, I always say, I'm just the young man in the 22nd row. I have no musical ability. It's very liberating because you don't have to do anything except say, no, this is actually what I like. But, you know, I love the one that I guess you can't play anymore. I guess you rewrote it, but I'll get retarded. Well, let's get started. Let's get started. You're adorable.

Let's get retarded. And, like, I'm not trying to say the word retarded. I'm not like, oh, reveling that we can say it again. You know, it's not that big a deal. If you don't want to hear it, I'm sorry. So I can break down on that. It just shows up what a different place we were in 20 years ago. Yeah, so if you're in the studio, right, and you have a conductor or the producer,

and they're telling the band and the instructions on the song. And the producer or the conductor says, okay, on bar 24, we're going to retard on bar 24. That's a thing? It's a musical term. That's awesome. But retarded is also a word in the language that means many things. It wasn't, you know, it's like... That's the reason why on the lyric it says,

in this context, there's no disrespect. So when I bust my rhyme, you break your neck. We have five minutes for us to disconnect from all intellect and let the rhythm perfect. That's great. Us to lose our innovation, follow your intuition. Fear, inner soul, and break away from you. from tradition.

Beautiful. So that song, Let's Get Retarded, is a musical term meaning to let's slow down our inhibitions. Retard on bar four. And in the first verse, it says in this context, there's no disrespect. Because we're using the, referring to, slowing down our inhibitions on bar 24.

Well, good luck explaining that to Greta Thunberg. Because she's going to fucking kill your ass. Which is the reason why we've said, okay, let's just make it, let's get started. Right. And it rhymes. Right. I remember Narls had, Barclay had so fuck you and they changed it to forget you. It was a great song.

It's still a great song. Yeah. Forget you. I mean, that doesn't work as well as let's get started. But I like that because not every bad. is worth fighting. You've got to pick your battles. I always say this about Trump.

You know, he does a million things, and I just can't get excited about all of them. Some of them are just like the cloud that they tell you when you meditate. You know, thoughts come into your head. Don't fight them. Just let them pass like a cloud. You know, he wants to put in a ballroom.

Okay. I'm just not going to get excited about it. I've had too much fun in ballroom. But speaking, let's get retarded, going back to that, we decided to take it off of the DSPs ourselves. DSP. Like the digital streaming platforms. Yes, okay.

We were like, I think it was some time in 2000. 2017. That was good. That was good. That was good. Yeah, we just like, hey, let's take it off. It was like mid-2000 and tens that we took it off the SPs and just focused on let's get it started.

Was that a band decision? Did you have a band meeting? The band members gathered around and you tabled this issue. Let's take a vote as a band. Did Fergie get, you know, did you make a speech on this one side? No, she's only in the intro and the outro. of that song. Well, she's in the band. No, but that song was recorded

before we met her. Really? Yeah. I guess I'm remembering my man, it's like, it's tough when you're 70 because like... You're 70? Yeah. Man, you don't look 70? Well, thanks. I would alter clean living.

But you say you still go on the road. Yeah, we go on, we do like our we call them free summer free summer vacations or paid summer vacations. How long? We usually go out like

two to three months the whole summer. Oh wow. But this year is just a month and a half in Europe. Oh. Last year we went to China. Wow. Singapore, Vietnam. Sorry, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia,

Philippines. This year we'll do Sweden. We'll do Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, UK, France,

Spain, Hungary. You like being away? I mean, you like seeing all these different places. I love it. Yeah, I bet. I was in China two weeks ago. Three weeks ago.

What city? Shenzhen. China has like cities with 10 million people that we've never heard of. Yeah, and they make the world's everything. Yeah, well, certainly when you put tariffs on them, it doesn't affect. No, like, it's really fascinating and awesome to see how they work. the Chinese? And the level of like

attention and detail. Oh yeah. The joy that the folks that are that own the factories comes out of them. I want to have some version of that

and the inner city that I come from and all the inner cities that reflect that way of life. Like Shenzhen 30 years ago was a a fisherman's war. Right. And now it's, you know, New York.

No, the battle for the 21st century and who will be the winner and who will be the country that we look back on and say it was their century, it'll come down to, you know, China has things that we absolutely don't have, which is like discipline. I mean, things that Americans just don't have anymore.

They just cannot get it together on that level, especially the younger generations, please. I mean, they could not work in a factory all day. They can't concentrate on shit. They're spoiled. They're too fragile. All these things that China doesn't have. That's why China can build a city in six months if they put their mind.

They can build a bridge in a week. We don't have that. But they don't have freedom. Their people are not free. It is a police state. And when you don't have that... Their freedom is different than our need. their need of freedom is different than our need of freedom.

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They don't know how much freedom they need, but I think people year in for freedom and they don't have it. Say, for example, you come from a place that was war-torn, and you want to be free from that. That's different from, I want to be free to do something that is not at the same level. So not every freedom is the same freedom. Sometimes you want to be free from tyranny.

You want to be free from, you know, people in the Congo want to be free from that thumb, that oppression. People in America's freedom is a different freedom. And to say they're the same, that's not fair to the folks that are truly suffering. I agree. I mean, we are lucky.

We complain about freedom, and some of those complaints, of course, are valid, and certainly in history, they're tremendously valid. But the perspective is important to compare ourselves to what the rest of the human race has done with this concept is important, and we generally have more freedom here than many, many people do. And, you know, China is a complete surveillance state.

I mean, we are also, but not nearly to that degree. And, of course... China's surveillance is like, hey, look, I'm watching you. And that's what it is, I hate. America's like, listen, I'm not watching you. These one fuck is watching this, Bill. You're fucking out of here, bro. They got satellites looking through this right there, bro.

Get out of here. Do you see any cameras here? No. No. We're just hanging out. We are being watched out from the, hello, our surveillance state is corporate. That's true. Absolutely.

Their surveillance state is the government. Our survival state are corporations that know what you type. Microphones always compromise. Corporation, you're totally right about the corporate thing. but their biggest accomplices in that is us. Nobody fights it. Privacy is a lost war and nobody gives a shit. At least nobody in the younger generations.

Maybe my generation has a few stragglers. I certainly do. I wouldn't put chat GPT in my phone. I have it on a completely different phone that has nothing else in it. Once it's in your phone, it knows everything about you. You'd seen every picture of you.

It knows how big my dick is. You wish. Chat to be it. And, you know, it knows every text I wrote. I don't want fucking chatting to know everything about me like that. And we all do it. I mean, when you get something from any tech company and it's a long thing, do you read it? No, you just sign the bottom, right?

No, you just click it. You just click it. But you have to accept. Yeah, yeah, let's pretend I read this and it. You could read it, it could be saying, you are going to have absolute permission to stick an anal probe up your ass any time we want, break into your house, and you would just not know. But we do it and we give it away. And the truth is the psychology of the younger generations is much more privacy.

Privacy isn't even desired. The bigger problem is I'm not famous, that my stuff isn't being followed. I don't have enough followers. I'm not, I'm an influencer. I gotta influence people. They gotta know everything about me. I mean, when people have like horrible physical afflictions

happen upon them in this day and age, I mean, in my era, you would just hide until it was over. Here. Can they rush to the camera? Look at this parasite ate half my face. You have to see it. Yeah, or like just how, if I were to fall down the stairs, if this was the 90s, somebody would rush to pick you up, help you get up.

If you fall down the stairs now in the 20s, they ever want to film you. So true. So true. That's their first reaction. is not to help you, is to film it. Yeah. Okay, so we can agree that wasn't a good development as technology moved toward where it's moving.

Yeah, so the human greed, whether it's financial, attention, ego inflate, that's what we need to be mindful of. especially with the rise of AI and robots and companies that are going to be deploying like intelligent systems that will walk amongst us and these systems will learn how inhumane humans are to humans they know how to manipulate and if we don't get our shit together as far as being more human to one another

we're going to have a fucked up time in the next decade. Yeah, I mean, that's, again, going back to AI, what I worry about is that AI is going to at some point, because once you go down this road of, okay, at first we had AI and we were very much the only person programming it. But now there's all these intermediaries that are another form of computerization. So we're kind of like distancing ourselves

from what this thing is getting and what it's thinking or wants to do about issues and problems. And if it judges that we are the problem, I could see us, see it killing us. if we are the problem. And by the way, that's the same thing we always worried about with aliens.

And I do think the aliens are here. You think they're here? Absolutely. Like where? Well, look, I've been trying to book one on this show for the longest time. I mean, their publicist gets in the way is what the problem is.

They want to do it. The aliens, like, I love that show. I want to do that show. Yeah, I do. I mean, there's too many military people people, government people who have seen things, but especially the military guys. These are squares. These are guys who are not out to do anything, but, you know, they've got crew cuts. And they say, we just see things that are not explainable by any other human or what we know

of the physics of Earth, things that just move in a different way. And this has been going on for a very long time now, 10, 20 years. I mean, 50 years ago, it was a lot about the anal probes. Remember, they would land in the middle of nowhere and all these people would say, We were taken aboard the spaceship. I bet you they did that for a while, and they were, like, looking to see what makes these humans tick? Wait, so what year was it when aliens were coming and doing anal probes? Well, interesting.

Like, after the first Adam Baum went off in 1945, that's when you start to see, like, Roswell stuff. Like, maybe what they, a lot of very high up, very, very, respectable people, not farmers in the middle of nowhere, military people, serious people say, you know, they have seen that they do have alien autopsies, that there were some crashing of their things, that's what they think they have somewhere. And the government has never wanted to show it because it would cause a panic. But with what we've seen lately, with all these, you know, the military saying, this thing appears.

and then it disappears. We have nothing like that. We can see this on the radar. It just seems to me backward thinking to say, first of all, that we're alone in the universe and that we'll just ignore this kind of stuff.

So I don't know what it means. What I take away that's good from this is that if they wanted to kill us, we'd be dead by now. Yeah, so I have, like, a perspective that aliens probably wouldn't need, If they're more intelligent than us, why would they need a spaceship to travel?

So they just beam themselves like in Star Trek? Well, in the... No, they just manipulate particles. Right. Well, that's beaming. Or appearing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, somehow you have to move particles. Well, the beam is if it's coming from something, appearing as it came out of something.

came out of something. Like, there's this quantum entanglement experiment that's called the double, sorry, it's called the double slit experiment where they project a particle, and when they monitor it, the particle behaves like a particle. If they don't monitor it, it acts like a wave. The moment they monitor it acts like a particle, meaning a particle is aware that it's being monitored. So I am looking at you, you're looking at me, and because we are observing each other, our waveform is now in a part of the state. One affects the other.

Yeah. So if anything was more intelligent than we are, it wouldn't need a spaceship to travel. That's what humans, this level of intelligent needs to move through space? I mean, maybe and maybe not. Maybe there is an intermediary phase where they do still need some sort of actual physical transportation, but it moves in a way that we don't understand. And maybe that level is itself only a bridge

to the next level which you're talking about, which you don't even need the spaceship. Maybe there are people more advanced than these people, these motherfuckers with their spaceships that appear and disappear. There's some people out there going, like, oh, they think they're all that because they're smarter than humans. Well, who isn't?

That could be true, too. Yeah. Or maybe, like, math is the vehicle. Well, it's funny. I had a math teacher who used to always say, if we ever have contact with anyone outside of this solar system, math is the universal language. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And...

Not my best subject, Will. So you're going to have to hold my hand on this one. Is that weed? Yeah, I'm so sorry. Oh, I don't smoke. Oh. I get... I get paranoid.

Absolutely one of the most common effects of weed. There are ways sometimes I can indebt. ingest it and it makes me paradise, so I can really understand that. Oh, no, no, but I'm cool of contact. No, I'm not even suggesting I'm not going to smoke. I was not even putting it on the table, bro. No, you don't have to put it out, you're sparking it up again. Of course.

I'm used to that just being on tour buses, but. Your whole life you never smoke? Yeah, last time I spoke, last time I spoke was 1998, March 18th. Oh, it's almost to the day. Yeah. And obviously when you're I sometimes I remember dates in my life, but when you do it's usually something significant. Why did something significant happen? Yeah, that's when I freaked out. Freaked out. And? I started hearing things, panics, and I just knew that it wasn't for me chemically. My imagination is vast. And I'll freak out on coffee. I can't drink coffee either. I'm super hyper.

always, I've always been hyper and weed doesn't slow me down. It makes me hyper. Makes me hyper. Well, sure. You don't mellow out? No, no, no. The last thing I would ever do before going to bed, which a lot of people do, is get THC in my body. It would keep me up. It would be like drinking a pot of coffee. Yeah. So, yeah. So for me, for me, green tea, I'm great. But the best, like, stimulant is lack of sleep. Well, I understand what you're saying, but what a price to pay, not good for you. No, like that twilight is what I'm the most creative.

Oh, you mean, I thought you meant like, because Keith Richards used to, they used to like stay up on purpose just to get that kind of crazy high you get from, it's almost being delirious. You're not talking about that. Yeah, that's the best. You are.

You deprive yourself of sleep on purpose. No, so I'll go to sleep, creating, like, right before it's time to go to sleep, the best ideas. And then waking up, you know that feeling like five minutes. Come on, just five more minutes, let me sleep. That feeling is the best feeling. Instead of laying down and sleeping for five more minutes,

I'll go and complete what I did that the night before. and that feels the best. I've never felt a feeling like sleep and wanting to sleep more. That's the best feeling in the world. I know what you're talking about. It's like orgasmic. Yeah. Wanting to sleep more when you can't is the best feeling.

Well, there is, I don't know about that, but for you, great. But for me, I know what you mean about that, that sort of like in-between world where sometimes you wake up, you're fully up and you go, was that a dream? Yeah. Yeah, I love that. That's the best feeling ever. Was that a dream or was I really? No.

I mean, I woke up and I, you know, I must have at one point been dreaming about something and then kind of woke up briefly. But when I went back to sleep, like the reality, kind of mixed in with the dream. So it became a dream but like with very realistic dimension because very often a dream is crazy. My dreams are really vivid.

And they're also crazy things, right? They're not things that would really be happening to you. I mean, you're like riding a dinosaur or something. No, my dreams are like memories. Like, they're kind of... There's sometimes no different than this. I don't have wowed... And then my dreams are like, I have like memories and things to do in my dreams.

Okay, well, let me make a big example. I don't know why. I'm the nicest guy in the world. I got a calendar in my dreams, shit they got to do. I got phone numbers and contacts in my dreams with people that are there, sequential. So you have like to-do lists in your dreams? No, like there's, you know like, like this life? Yeah.

Like I came here, went down the road that I've driven down before. Right. Walk through the gate. Your guys, like, watch out for that bar there. Saw your spread, the house. Like, wow, it's really nice. Layout. Came in, saw the den.

Like, wow, the studio is pretty awesome. This feeling here? My dreams are like that. My dreams are not wild, dinosaur-y. It's like, and I have, I'm conscious in my dream. Like, something happens, I'm like, oh, well, I'm dreaming, right? Okay, cool. Well, let's do shit.

My dreams are, I'm just as much as aware of my dream as I'm aware of awake. So I had this dream. I don't get specific, but it's like, sometimes you have beef with somebody you just do, especially in my business where I'm saying controversial things, right? So I had this dream where, like, this guy and I who have this beef, like, we're in a restaurant and ran into each other, and there was like this confrontation. And I remember thinking after I woke up, it was exactly like. like what the actual confrontation would have been.

To your point, it's not always crazy. But then I turn away and I start talking this other guy who was just like a man but like with either a wolf or an ape head, which I just accepted as normal. And he was kind of getting in my face. And I think at the end I said, you know, nice talk for a wolf boy or whatever we had like a little fight and but that was in the in a see in real life if this happened i'd be like i'd call belview but in the dream this was like normal this this was

like people some people have are you know his face was like completely i feel like had a big with the pointy ears and everything and that and i didn't notice that that's it you know so I guess you would call that vivid, where it's like very, absolutely we can say this is different than something I would just be thinking. I wouldn't daydream this. But you're saying you daydream very similar to what your dream dream is. No, I have, I wouldn't, it was a dream I had a couple of days ago. And I woke up from the dream telling somebody the dream that I just had, but in a moment.

my dream. Oh. Now we're in the Matrix. Now we're like an interstellar. So yeah. I get you. I dreamt. I've done something. A little. Woke up. Yeah. One about my day. Right. In my dream. Waiting to tell somebody the dream that I just had. So what do we, what do we deduce from this when a mind is like that? When the dreams are closer to reality than most people's art? What do we think that says about your mind? I mean, obviously you're on a higher level than a lot of people. You're a professor and you're... No, I don't know if it's higher level or lower I don't know what it is. I just think it's... I think you're, you kind of, I mean, I bet you're your IQ is higher. I don't care. I don't want to be the smartest guy in the world. They're never the

happiest. You know, I... I'm pretty... I just want to be the wisest. Not the smartest, the wisest. And there is a difference. What's... Why's people don't do stupid things that make them unhappy? Smart people do it all the time. Smart doesn't stop you from being unhappy. Some of the smartest people in the world.

First of all, some of them are on the spectrum. Like everybody who controls AI, nothing too worrisome about that. Mark Zuckerberg, totally on the spectrum. Elon Musk, Sam Allman. These are all evil robots to begin with. Are you kidding? We'd have to wait for them.

to take over. They already did. Really? Zuckerberg is a real boy? Okay. Isn't it baby pictures of Zuck? I mean, I would love to talk to him. There's a guy who is fascinating to me

because he seems so unfastinating, but I don't think he's on your page. He's like, oh, you're all worried about AI and you shouldn't be. But, you know, that's what he would say if he was a robot. But I would love to talk to him because I think he's like most people. I mean, I see it all the time on this show, on my show.

I had a Republican congressman on tonight who, like, I'd only read about her. And then it's like, oh, you know, if I'd only read about you, you're stupid, you're a hothead. She's not any of those things. We don't agree on many issues. But you know what? I always say it. Everybody's a monster till you talk to them. Who haven't you interviewed that you want to interview?

Ironically, mostly Democrats, because they're such pussies, they won't come on the show. Like the Clintons. I mean, you know, Kamala, I voted for you. You haven't interviewed them yet? I would love to. Democrats are pussies about, like, going anywhere that they're not already pre-adored. Not all of them. But, I mean, Kamala Harris, I mean, like I always say to my woke friends, we voted for the same person.

You're just why she lost. Okay, you're a little too precious. But, you know, that's, let's not talk shop. Why? I would like your opinion on this. Why are Democrats like that? It is a great question. If you really want me to answer it, I will.

Why are Republicans like, yeah, get about it. And then why are Democrats like, oh, okay? I mean, it's like people in general always fall into one of two camps. I mean, obviously men and women, and not that we're saying there's only men and women, of course, trans is a real thing and gay and blah, blah, blah. But generally, there's a default setting. And we are, yin and yang. I mean, this is through every culture, that everything is sort of, I mean, if you want to talk spiritual, like a lot of religions begin with the notion that this is why there's pain on earth in the spiritual realm, heaven, whatever you want to call it, there is only oneness. In the fairy queen, he names the queen, Una, UNA, as in unity.

Una, there's just oneness. There's no pain when there's oneness. When we're here in the earthly realm, everything is black and white, man and woman, you know, all these kind of thing, Republican and Democrat, liberal and conservative, all these things that give us pain because they cause conflict. Crips and Bloods. But Crips and Bloods, they're like, just as a good thing. aggressive. I thought that they had made a pact. I thought they were like working together now, no? Oh, they, they probably are, but they were, you know, at odds. But my, my, I would always

wonder, like, I'm, I'm Democrat, but I, if I, I would be a little bit more aggressive when it comes to, like, fighting for the things that we should be fighting for. Like, when did Democrat become so passive? Well, it's not about them being passive, I don't think. It's about the fact that they just came to champion a lot of really silly anti-common-sense ideas, which they didn't back in, you know, the Bush-Obama years, especially Obama, who was always my favorite president because he's a pragmatist. He's like the ultimate pragmatist.

Yeah, but how did, how can you go from that to where we are now? The main, what you have to mainly understand about political parties is that they're controlled by their fringes. By the who? Their fringes. In other words, the Republicans are controlled by the far right, and the Democrats are controlled by the far left. They're not the majority. Most people are much more in the middle, but the people on the fringes, they have the megaphone. especially on the left, well, both.

It's younger people. Younger people on both sides are much more radical, and they're better at social media, they're better at media, the better at getting attention. So that generation, I mean, Gen Z now is almost passing the torch to whatever comes after them. I've read the name, but I forget,

but they're not quite there yet. but they're a very different kind of generation. Gen Alpha. Gen Alpha. Yeah, I guess so. And we'll see. I mean, a lot of Gen Alpha are already like getting rid of the cell phones. Like, that's a big movement now among younger people.

They understand themselves, probably better than anybody, that it kind of fucked their minds up. I mean, they feel like growing up on screens, they got bullied on screen, they just felt inadequate because they would see so many things that other people had on screen, things that I can't even imagine growing up when I did. But it made them unhappy. That's why there's so much stress in that generation, so much anxiety. Anxiety. Yeah, I did have anxiety when that age, but it wasn't because something was, you know,

if I was bullied, it was in person, and I was. My anxiety came from March 18th, 19th. That was a bad trip. Yeah, it caused a chemical imbalance. That stayed with you? For about three months. They had to, like, you know, get my mind together, create my way out of it, settle, like, my panic attacks. And this was strictly from pot?

Strictly from pot. You sure it wasn't? It wasn't laced. No. Mm-mm. Can you get me some of that pot? We were signed. We were signed a roofless trick.

Because it wouldn't have that effect on me, so why wait a lot? Yeah, we were signed a ruthless records. EasyE signed us when I was 16. Easy E. Yeah, and we smoked some, like, good stuff. At the time, we were just smoking, like, stress, sess with the seeds in it. And then finally one day I had, you know, the fuzzies, the weed with the fuzzy hair, not the dirt brown weed that you had to separate the stems, but like the fuzzy stuff? I was a dealer. I know all this. You used to deal? Oh, absolutely. Dang, bro.

Why don't you like rap? Build more. I know what I'm good at in. It ain't that. But yes, I certainly remember the seeds. No, I was when I was in college, that's how I got through college. And then my early years living in New York doing stand-up, and nobody paid you in those days.

So I was, yeah, I was a pot dealer. And in college, I was a dealer for, I mean, we, we, dealt me and my partner, we dealt whatever our dealer had because we were the lowest end of the totem pole. Like we were selling to the kids. We would, we would buy like a pound or two. When I say a pound, which is 16 ounces, which would make 17 ounces. That's what you call the head tax. Yeah, yeah. One for you. So it wasn't quite an ounce that you were getting. But, I mean, speed at Cornell was huge. I mean, for some reason, Ethica, New York was a hub in the 70s.

And that speed was still to this day the best drug I've ever done. Only thing I've ever done was weed. Oh, wow. Really? We... Well, some night, let's get retarded. Wait. Was I laid on that one again? We was the only thing that I've ever done.

And, yeah, it was... You were never curious about... I mean, it seems like with your mind, or I guess, you know, maybe you don't need, need it. I need it. And I'm not afraid to admit it. I need it for certain things. Or at least it makes certain things much easier.

No, 93, from 92 when I started, 93 when I stopped, I remember I was doing graffiti in Palisades High School I was doing graffiti on the wall and Mr. Marshall comes in he's like William I'm like hey Mr. Marshall he's like what are you doing I'm like no no I'm just I like this guy's like continuous and the guy's name was Express and I would

I was traced his name rest in peace Richard Taylor and I flushed the market down the toilet and my tag was right right besides but I was quick-witted I was quick with my BS to flush the marker down the toilet and like, no, Mr. Marshall, I wasn't riding. And he was like, get over here, check my pockets.

And he found some weed in my pocket. And I'm like, oh, fuck. So Mr. Marshall's like, William, I can expel you for this. I'm like, Mr. Marshall, this is not my weed. This is not even my jacket. He was like, you expect me to believe that. I'm like, Mr. Marshall, If this was my weed, I would have smoked it.

I'm not even going to lie to you. I smoke, but this is not my weed. I didn't even know I had weed in my jacket. He was like, you know what? I could expel you for this. I could kick you out of the school. But we're going to put you in rehab. So I had to go to rehab at Palisades High School for weed.

What? Because I admitted that I smoked weed. Okay. And... This answers your question about why Democrats lose. So then... Really, I mean, like, not everything has a bureaucratic solution. Yeah. You know, it's just

like, it's too much. So, so I went, and they were like, we had to stand up and say, like, my name is William Adams. Oh, for fuck's sake. Like, like an AA meeting? Yeah, but I went to Palisades. So we had rich kids that smoked. Oh. There were co-kids there.

Oh. Mushrooms. Like, everybody, the pillars. So this is 98? No, this is. No, this is 93. So who else was there in 93? Like, other celebrities? 93, Whoopi Goldberg's daughter. We went to school together.

Was in this program? No, no, no. Not in the program, but we went to Palis. I see. But yeah, Pallory was a great school. But when I was there in the program, I was like, look, weed makes me creative. I was like the typical, you know, weed spoke. It slows down my mind for me to like, I can freestyle right now.

Anyhow. And then a couple of weeks later is when I had that moment. And from there, where times you grew up in? I grew up in East LA, Boyle Heights, and got bust out to Palisades. So I got bused out for 12 years, you know, for 12 years of my life. I'm 12 years, two hours to and from, um, um, um, um, um, Boyle Heights to Palisades. Pacific Palisades?

Yeah. I want a Brentwood Science Magnet. It's a two hours. Huh? It's not two hours. Boyle Heights? An hour and a half dropping off everybody on the way? Oh.

It was a bus. Yeah, yeah. So we had to pick up everybody. So you were bused there? Yeah. It was like a busing thing? Yeah, magnet program. And you wanted it?

Yeah, it was the best thing ever happened to me. Really? because you did like that school better. I like hanging out in Palisades in Paravira Junior High, but going to Brentwood Elementary School compared to the teachers, the equipment, the curriculum,

and Boyle Heights, I'm so blessed to have gone to Brentwood Science Magnet. And what do we owe this disparity to? if we had to I mean, why was one place so much better? Oh, my mom, oh, shit, were you talking about zoning? Zoning.

Zoning. In Brinwood, you don't have, like, liquor stores and check cashing. And, like, you know, that cocktail of, like, liquor store, check cash, motel, you know, strip club right next to the school. That, that cocktail, is a setup, right?

Because that means there's no financial literacy. You get a check, you cash it. You get some money. You go to that liquor store. Oh, at the strip club. From there, you either go to the strip club, you go home, you go to the motel. Because somebody got kicked out of the house.

Like, where would there be a motel there? Why that combination? And bad food that's going to create hypertension, high pressure, high cholesterol. diabetes. So how do we change that and whose fault is it that it's there? It's I think it's a if you if you look at it for face value and that's set up because in areas where you have that cocktail folks that live in communities like that are have a higher percentage of going to prisons and those prisons are also privatized.

Yes. So you have privatized prisons, horrible food, no financial literacy, addicted to substances and the dehumanizing of

people seeing them as objects. And you don't have that in areas where people are affluent, they have financial literacy, they get money, they grow money, they grow wealth. they eat better the food in their community is healthier for them so but what i'm i'm getting at is like where do we find the root of this problem who's responsible for changing it i'm just asking

i'm not loading the question i remember having witten marcellus on you know whiton right and we were talking about i think he's from i think it's you know i hope i hope i'm not misquoting i'm misremembering but you know come on sometimes i blame the pot if i am But I think it was win. And we were talking about Newark, and he was saying that, you know, Republican administration, Democrat administration, it still looks like Newark.

And I remember playing there many times. And you would, you know, I remember where the plane landed and then driving to the venue, and you would pass through this section of town that looked shitty like what you're talking about. And then you'd get to a different section of town where it's nice, you know, those four blocks of, you know, nice buildings.

And, you know, it just seemed like whoever is in charge, Newark's going to Newark. Like, why are the Democrats better if it doesn't change when they're in charge? Like, why does it always seem, this is what we were kind of like musing over. Like why, what, who's not doing what? And why, if the Democrats are a better party for people of color, why doesn't it look different when they're in charge? That's the, that's the riddle. But both Democrat and Republicans are to blame for how communities are zoned.

Like, there should be some things like you don't mix. You don't mix, you know, poison in the water. Right. You don't put certain combinations together. And so that combination in certain communities, you can't blame the result. And to survive in those communities, people were selling illegal subsidies. that illegal substance is now legal.

Would you think- There's folks that were selling weed in the hood that had to go to prison. What about a weed store? Would you, when you say, oh, you shouldn't have the school next to the strip club and the liquor and the blah, blah, blah, would you put weed in that, a weed store in that category with the things that shouldn't be?

Because I own one. So, no, no. Or partly on one. So I would look at it like, I don't think weed, is bad. Me neither. Like everything at moderate to a moderation depending on the person.

Some people's tolerance is here. Exactly. It's there. There's obviously a business that, and I'm biased to what I'm about to say because I know people that went to prison for a long time when they were selling weed when it was illegal. now that they've gotten out, you would think they're going to get out and be the best weed seller,

but they can't even do that in a way where now it's billboard, they're weed billboards. And folks that have, you know, spend a lifetime doing something that's now illegal, that, to me, is heartbreaking. And if they were, if they were to come back, into the community and have that dispensary.

But having a license to, I don't even know if they can have a license to have a dispensary now that they've come out of a correctional facility. No, of course you can't. I mean, they're very super strict about mixing any sort of pot with, I mean, I got rid of my guns because I don't want them to be able to say, oh, you know, you have guns and you smoke pot because that's a big no-no in this country. People have gotten in trouble because idiots, they post on Instagram like a joint in their mouth while they're holding an AK-47. So I've never shot a gun. Well, not an AK-47, but an A-R 15, okay? Well, actually, no, I shot a gun once.

But it was like a pellet gun. But this country does not like to mix those two things. They don't like to mix vices. I mean, strip clubs, you mentioned. Strip clubs are always crazy places where, like, if it's fully nude, then no liquor. Like, we cannot get them drunk and have them see actual pussy at the same time. That will cause riots or something. But if, like, they're, like, if they cover up a little bit pasties or something, then we can have liquor.

Because then they won't go apes inside the strip club. you know some of these things are grandfathered in from like 200 years ago or 100 years ago or some shit like that you know

but I mean you say zoning you know I think redlining but you know redlining and zoning falls in the same like yes but red line but it does not

like puppeteering of like how people's lives are configured to be lesser in the environment that they're in That is the history.

I'm asking if that's the present. You think it's a conspiracy that... I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think it's like a known practice for our neighborhoods to be configured the way they are and then a known practice that folks can't, at one point in time, couldn't go out and buy in certain areas. If you were the king of Los Angeles or any city like a big city,

you would change the zoning laws? No kings. But if I was... But if you could just snap your fingers, you would change the zone. That would be like job one for you. Like make sure that you just... No, job one for me would be to educate folks

in the community to the same level. Because part of the zoning is how much teachers get in the area where you have that cocktail, that configuration. Right. The investment for education is higher in areas that don't have the same zoning configuration. So I would have equal access to higher education. And then mentor and inspire a cluster of youth

to go back to the community and change the community via entrepreneurship themselves. What are your kids? I mean, one of your students, I mean, they must be like... So I have a foundation called Iron Angel Foundation? No, but like, when you teach, like, I mean, I remember when I was at Cornell,

there was a couple of like sort of celebrity, you know, Carl Sagan was there. He was a big astronomer who was... What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Oh, yeah. That's where Neil deGrasse Tyson met.

him and, you know, it was the whole thing, you know. He mentored Neil and, but what it must be like to have, like, the rock star as the professor, the kids must be a little bit different than they would be in somebody else's class. I mean, you must notice some sort of, you know. I try not to, um, awe that. No, I try not to go in there like that. That was my biggest worry. If I was in Cornell and like Billy Joel was the professor,

I mean, it was just, I can't believe it wouldn't, like, I mean, first of all, it must be a very popular course. It's a, I mean. I'm having the time of my life. Really? Really? Yeah. Once I realized, like, it's like writing a song.

I got the gist What is teaching is like writing a song? Well, the arc of the three hours. Three hours? Yeah. It's three hours? Yeah. I never once in my life had a three hour course.

Yeah, we do three hours every Wednesday. Wow. Does kids sit there for three hours? Yeah. Good for you. Because, boy, attention's bad. You know, there must be a break, a bathroom. We have, we have bio breaks.

Yes, please. Every 55 minutes. 55 minutes. I love it. The kids can't go a full hour. Yeah, 55 minutes, five minute bio. And then they must thirst for their phone. No, the phone is a part of the course.

Oh, wow. Because they're building their personal agent. So we have the first hour. we set up the discussion, the debate, the banter, and the problem that we're going to try to aim our imagination at alongside the agent that we're building. We point out the lack of governance, lack of regulations in the space.

Every week we open up a new module or a new feature. How are they tested? Say good. How are they tested? We test the students on, how ethical they're building their agent. What's a test look like? A test looked like, it's not really a test from a traditional viewpoint.

So, for example, in this realm that we're in where agents are deployed by companies under no regulation and no governance, and now we have people building their own personal agent, We test and mentor, we mentor the students to build ethical agents. And so an agent will then be given a simulation on what the agent would do in a scenario. How you grade that, you have to be also careful how you grade that. Because you're preparing them for real-world scenarios. And the grade is not the class.

the grade is preparing them for real-life scenarios. So you can't give them an A or B or an F. You just have to have them think critically, think morally, have an ethical approach, so that when they take their perspective and their business that they build out into the world, they remember how... So they don't get any kind of letter grade.

Say again? They don't get any kind of letter grade? Yeah, yeah, but for scenarios like that, I don't think the grade is not there. The grade is how you prepare them for being ethical, moral, and collaborative with the community or a national. How do they know if they did it well if they don't get a grade? Oh, oh. The way that it's not a, we are living in a world now where you're building something that is hyper-intelligent, logical reasoning.

and you have to be careful on how you grade an intelligent thing that students are configuring. And you want to help them build ethical contributions to society where you don't lead with greed. So how do you put people first, communities first have tolerance, understanding, and co-appetition.

So from that perspective, those are the guidelines. And then from scenarios, you see how it performs. You see how friction it causes. And when you pit this against that, the friction, you step back.

First, you, you, you, we have one scenario where we look at it from this perspective, from a bird's eye view perspective, seeing how it's played out in real life. And the friction it causes just by having a conversation about it. And then you put your students in a scenario

and you see if there's friction there. And if they see the friction, how can you now be critical to your own decision-making? It's easy to criticize if you're not in the decision-making. You have an opinion. But you've never been in this scenario or put in a scenario to see how you would be in that. Right. By putting yourself in that simulated thing to make a decision and the friction it causes with people that you once align with or saw eye to eye with.

And because now you have, you know, stakes that can compromise your desires. And now you have to look at a person that you agreed with at one point in time, and there's friction. Such a key thing, I think, and speaks to what's plaguing America more than anything else, is that people have to always be able to, and so many people I know, sadly, these days, don't do it anymore, have to be able to still remain friends with someone, even though there's something that they think that you think is crazy. Yeah. You can think they're good on A, B, C, D, and E, and then you get to F, and you're like,

oh, my God, you're just a mental case. But you know what? They think about that about something you think. Yeah. And you just have to be able to go on. There's one thing that we, that I borrowed from the world of music in these simulations is if you're playing, they're jamming,

and I want to do something, because I want to do it. And my contribution is going to make the song sound horrible. Right. Yeah. Then you have to contribute to where the song sounds good. That's awesome. That's a great analogy.

That's awesome. Right. So music does something where it's like it's not about noise. We're not going to top that. Yeah. We're going to end on that one because that is perfect. That's, you know, with your background and what you're doing now, That's the perfect melding of the, you're so right.

Like, you got to fit in with the band. You got to contribute to the whole. You got to think about the end result and what's, you know. What does it sound like? What's it sound like? What's the game? And also, music, again, just the young man in the 22nd row. I just wanted to sound good.

Right now you're hearing noise. Right. You're hearing like, wait, you know this shit don't sound right. Well, I wish I was 20 again. and in your class because it sounds like it's a lot of fun. I think you should show your class this podcast. Oh.

I think they would enjoy it. Yeah. They were like, who's that old white guy you're sitting with? No, they know Bill. Some of them do. Wait, wait, so. Are you William?

Of course. But you're not like birth certificate bill? No. William is, no, Bill is a nickname. It's like Dick. Nobody has dick on their birth certificate. Especially now in California where they wouldn't even willing to say whether you have a dick on your brother's certificate. Good night, ladies and gentlemen.

But now William is, you know, very Irish. My name, I'm the third William Moore. I should have been William Aloysius more. Alawishis. That's very Irish. Yo, aloish. See, if you was a rapper and you was like aloishis. It's a good name.

Come on, bro. They just call you wishes. Y'all here were wishes, bro. But my grandfather was William Aloysius Mar, and my father was William Aloysius Mar. And I was about to be that we never got confirmed because my father left the Catholic Church, thank God. Thank you, Jesus, ironically, right before I was supposed to be confirmed.

So I never got a middle name, so I have not been. But William, yes. and you did something much more creative with it. I never really loved my name. It's so generic, Bill. Yeah, William's like, William's generic. I mean, it's so generic that comedians, like when they want to come up with a generic name for a bit,

it's usually Bill. Bill, you had another idea, you know. Bill, let's post-mone that meeting to laugh. It's either Bill or Tom. Those are like really the... And, you know, I mean, there's a number of songs. You know, don't mess with Bill. You remember that one?

No. When was that the 50s? The 50. Come on, give me a break. Even I wasn't around in the 50. No, the 60s. Maybe even a little before I was listening, but the Marvellettes. Yeah, I never heard that one.

I'm going to check it out. Don't mess with Bill. You have to check it out. You could do a great remix. It's perfect for you because your name is Bill, kind of. No, they've never called me Bill. I know, but it would just be a good song for you to do. There's one guy that called me Bill.

Don't mess with Bill. I mean, it's kind of, it has a groove to it. It's not corny. It's not corny. Don't mess with Bill? Don't. Yes, and the song. Yeah, conjure it up on your magic lightbox.

I bet you you can like, I bet you in seconds, Mr. AI, we can actually hear it. Don't mess with Bill. And I think it's, I think it's the marvellettes. I think I need to get bonus points if it is the marvellettes. It is the marvellous. Oh, awesome. We did it. Thanks, Bill.

Don't mess with people. Now you're, look at that. You only hear it for two seconds and it's in your mind. It's good. It's not bad. The organ is a... It reinforces the... It's hot.

It's tight.