Club Random with Bill Maher - Yungblud | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Bill Maher welcomes Yungblud (Dominic Harrison) for a no-rules conversation packed with wild tour stories, culture shocks, and rock-and-roll revelations. From growing up in a Doncaster guitar shop (wh...ile convinced Rod Stewart was his granddad) to near-arrests in Japan, tour bus rules, midnight truck stops, and crew parties that never end, Yungblood holds nothing back. They dive into pirate vs. cowboy style, why rock’s not dead (it just got a wardrobe change), and Yungblud'’s powerful farewell with Ozzy Osbourne just weeks before his passing. Along the way: a schoolteacher crush, Taylor Swift fandom, Japan’s infamous vending machines, and the big reveal of Bill’s stripper name. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Advertisers: Head to https://www.rugiet.com and use code RANDOM for 15% off your first order Go to https://zbiotics.com/RANDOM and use RANDOM at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to: https://www.wildalaskan.com/RANDOM. Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: PodcastPartnerships@Studio71us.com ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:47 He was cool. He was just... Oh, he is? Yeah, everything I ever wanted to be. Club. Clove. You're getting close, Bill. This...
Starting point is 00:01:57 Wait, this tattoo. Oh, this tattoo here. Oh, property of Jarl rule. Wait. Sure, you're clock. Bill, man, how you doing? Did he arrive? I'm here, man.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I'm sorry, I'm late, bro. It's all right, bro. How are you? I'm very well, man. Are you? Oh. Fucking epic. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Oh, thanks for being here. This place is great. I was going to... I was going to wear that. Oh, well, you chaps. I was going to wear that. This is as good as I can do I like it, man. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Thanks, pro. Where are you from? I'm from Doncaster, England. Well, I knew England. Doncaster. I don't know that one. No one knows it. I always say Manchester to Americans. It's Manchester area? It's like an hour away, but... You must be having a great fucking time.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I got to say, there's got to be nothing better in life than being a rising rock star. Do you know what it's fun? Because in 10 years, you'll be jaded. Really? Do you think I'll get jaded? Everybody does. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You're at the, this is the golden hour. Yeah. Like you're, you're, you know, you're not on everybody's radar yet. You're, you're, you're, I'm smiling. I'm smiling at a minute. I'm having a good time. Yeah, I bet you fucking. I'm fucking taking it.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It's like a rock you at the minute. Especially in America, you're like crazy out of you. You're loud and shit. I love it. More than England? You fuck, yeah. Not more than London. It's a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like, in London, it's a bit more jumpy. In America, it's really screaming. The gigs, everyone's like, ah. You live in London now, I bet. I live in London now. See, of course. Everybody moves to London. I like London.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Do you like London? Well, of course, everybody likes London. I mean, you know, it's super expensive. Yeah, I don't leave Camden Town. You're just living. Yeah. And it's okay. I live in my happy bubble.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Exactly. Well, I mean, you have a giant... Cheers, man. Good to see you. Cheers, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Blood. Thank you, man. Hey, how did you get that name?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Because, like, I always think that there's, you know, there's certain people who, like, have two names. Strippers. Yeah. The Pope. It's fair. The Pope. I mean, the Pope has a stripper name.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Pope's name is Bob, stripper name Leo. Yeah, I'm telling you. What would your stripper name be? Mine, with onyx. What? I've always thought I would be a good onyx. Now, I'd have to fight the other onyx in the club for it. Yeah, feel that.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Because I'm older, I'd probably be original onyx. I like that. You don't want-O-G-O-G-O-G-O-Gs. You don't want that. I love that, man. Shaking out a thing. But like, Youngblood's a great name. It's a good, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:47 I didn't come up with myself, which is sad. But I remember I had an older manager, and I thought, I was just as like, I was like, I I can't call myself. My name's Dominic Harrison, and that sounds too polite. It sounds like a barrister. Yeah, it's what I'm saying. It does sound like a lawyer, don't it? Well, do they still wear those wigs?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, to do. I think if you're a barrister at, you work so hard to get the wig. It's like what you put on your wall, man. I mean, maybe this is just because I'm an American, but I feel like if I was on trial in England and they brought me into the courtroom, and I saw the dude with the wig, it would be hard not to.
Starting point is 00:05:27 to LOL. Yeah. I'd just be like, but you'd be shitting yourself because you're facing fucking five years in prison or something. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:34 you got to say, you got something for sticking with the tradition. Do you know what? I think the wigs are gangster. I like the wigs. That's because I'm English, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I'm being conditioned that way. Yeah. No, I'm just saying there's something to be said and probably something to be said against, like sticking with some shit just because we've already
Starting point is 00:05:55 always done it. I've just seen Japan. yesterday yesterday yesterday yeah i've just landed from japan wow well i really appreciate you no thank you for having thank you for and you're not jet lagged i'm i'm not really sleeping at the minute i'm just kind of getting it when i can when you're 28 you can do that just like keep going because we're in japan and i've not slept in three days that can be a kind of a high yeah keith richard used to do it on purpose no i'm vibing i honestly because the first night i got there I was lying in bed anxious
Starting point is 00:06:28 So the next three nights I thought instead of being in bed anxious Let's just stay out And we went out in Japan And honestly you fucking carpet And look the same when you come back from Japan Why? What do you mean? Just mad in it
Starting point is 00:06:43 It's like fucking total 180 I love it What is Japan like? I don't know You're in Tokyo? Extremely respectful Yet after dark The craziest fucking place you've ever been to Well, respectful, but there is a lot of groping on the subway.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That's fucking weird, yeah. Do you know what? They do. Honestly, like, it's a bit fucking weird, that, isn't it? Well, they also sell used panties. They do. Do you know what? I went to, in a vending machine.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I went to a, I went to a bar the other night, and we were like, it was like an arcade bar, and it was fucking great. but I thought I was a myth and then my mates said get a load of this just like use nickers in a vending machine did you get some? No I didn't bother but my mate did it my mate tried for like two hours I was like and then we pulled them out
Starting point is 00:07:36 and then they weren't really used it was a scam I was guessing bullshit they can't sell it not really gonna do that yet if you're gonna say they're used sell use I find that just disgusting yeah I mean and you know they weren't really used
Starting point is 00:07:51 it was bullocks and how would you tell if they were used You'd probably smell them. You'd be an order, yeah. Yeah. I mean, because that's really what they're going for anyway, right? Yeah. I mean, anyone can go to, I can go to fucking CBS and buy panties.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Exactly. Like I did yesterday. But my mate smelled them and he said, no, I'd smell clean as a whistle, so. Yeah. They were like, bribing. Boy, you think you have respect for a country. You're fine. You know what?
Starting point is 00:08:15 But then the food's beautiful, in it, and the people are fucking legendary. What are the people like? I mean, they're... Do you know what? It's so fun because... They're reserved. So you walk up to stage, and normally like in the UK or here, when you walk into the arena, it's like, ah, of course.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's fucking dead silent. It's like a stadium of people outside, and I'm like, is there anyone there? Like, yeah, it's rammed. And then they do distinct in between songs where they go like, yeah. And they just fucking drop the plows. So you kind of just like, whoa. and it's like completely silence you'd feel awkward
Starting point is 00:08:56 but it's not awkward at all it's actually really beautiful but we nearly got arrested there last time when after COVID I remember we were on stage and this guy goes on this radio before we went on and starts talking and starts going
Starting point is 00:09:13 and I'm really worried about this next act because there was a ban on mosh pitting and screaming at concerts after COVID extremely weird because obviously what you're obviously going to scream at a concert but not in Japan apparently but his guy goes on stage and he goes
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm extremely worried about this next performer because I've seen his live shows whatever you do remember do not mosh or scream or jump watch the show now I'm backstage
Starting point is 00:09:48 and he's all speaking in fucking Japanese so I'm saying to the lads, I'm going, yo, we better, we better fucking nail this. He's given us a two and a half minute talk up. He's probably saying like, this guy's from England,
Starting point is 00:10:03 he's going to blow your fucking mind, get ready to jump and get ready to go fucking crazy. And that's what I think he's saying, but what he's saying is do not do anything. So I run out, I'm going, fucking Tokyo, you motherfuckers! And the front row,
Starting point is 00:10:20 I can see it on the face to kind of just like really juxtaposed because they've been told not to. But you don't need to tell a kid not to fucking fucking take a piss on the lawn. You want to take piss on the lawn, no, you're like, when you do it, you're like, fucking yes, I'm taking a piss on the lawn.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And then they went extra crazy. And I got offstage and the police waiting for us. And I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, we told you that you're not allowed to do that. I don't speak Japanese. Well, like I said, cultures are different. Telling you, culture, that. And they were like, because they were proper naughty,
Starting point is 00:10:57 and they knew they would be naughty, so they weren't actually crazy. I got to tell you, this thing with Japan goes back all the way to the Beatles. When the Beatles played Japan, they had the exact same reaction you just said. They were like, whoa, everywhere in the world, except France, the only country that didn't go for the Beatles. Everywhere in the world. France is a funny one, man. That's a funny way.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Have you played there? They love us in France. It's always hit or miss. Honestly, I remember calling my French label once and they were like, so there is two things, they will ever love you or not. And I'm like, oh shit. And I'm like, so today you go on TV, we see. I'm like, fucking out.
Starting point is 00:11:37 No pressure. First time I went to France, they were just like, you're either going to be loved there or not. Yeah, you look like somebody they would like. I think it's the mejo. You mean the makeup of your personality? No, my eye line up. Oh, you're actual makeup. No, I'm the actual makeup, man.
Starting point is 00:11:55 The actual makeup, yes. I love the French as well. Do you know why I love the French? Because it's straight up. Honestly, I love pirates because everyone's rude. I love rude people. Because they're not lying. There's nothing worse than a liar.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You know what? I have been called that kind of person. 100%. I've seen it. I've been watching these. I was like, we'll see what happens on this. And I'm not rude. I'm just honest.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And yes, when you're honest. When you're honest, people don't like it. That's right. I agree. It's so funny. It's like, can I go to a cup, can I have a cappuccino? No. I'm like, all right, fuck.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Right. All right, I'll get a fucking Americano, no. Right. A fucking tea? No. Right. What can I get then? You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I like that. I like that. There's no bullshit. There's no small talk. There's no, I mean, I've been in countries. I won't tell which ones, but where there's, sort of a passive, aggressive element to, yes, the native population really doesn't like coming there.
Starting point is 00:12:58 All right. Really fair. And so there, I mean, the people are actually lovely people, but you can also find a kind of a passive aggressive, you know, you get into a cab and ask how far it is to go to the, you know, whatever, and they give you one number, and when you get there, it's three times as much. You're like, wait a second. You said, and they're like, oh, no, you must say, okay, do whatever you want. You must have misunderstood.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You know, it's a very passive aggressive. Oh, fair, fuck, I don't know. I'm just saying I've had that. I've never experienced that. Again, I think except wear a make-up, I think I must be a bit more friendly. And when you do, I mean, you're obviously, you know, I always think people are just very often born a certain thing. and it's like there's a look like agents have and you look at a guy and he's like
Starting point is 00:13:50 that guy's an agent I just know he is and you're like you're a rock star like it was just you just like you were look like you were born to the manner I'm guessing you never really considered anything else you certainly never studied I was kidding you know what I love this too though I wanted to be a mate if this didn't work out
Starting point is 00:14:10 I want to be an archaeologist an archaeologist I loved the Romans and shit I do too. And the Greeks. Have you ever studied them? I mean, in school I did, and then I loved World War I and World War II. So you skipped everything between the Romans and World War.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah, everything else is boring to me. I think I like doing some shit. I could bore you to death, but it would be really interesting about the Middle Ages. You'd like the Middle Ages. Talk about people being honest. Yeah, fuck, you know. I'm telling you. I like that vibe as well.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And if, yeah, it was music or history. and I'd never forget my history teacher. She was gorgeous. I used to fancy my history teacher teacher. It might have been because she was really beautiful that I fell in love of history. But I always used to fancy my history teacher. And I remember telling her, I'm leaving school to go and start a rock band.
Starting point is 00:15:01 How old would be it? 15. 15. And she was pissed. She was like, why? You're going to throw your life away? You could be a historian. See, if this was Florida, she just would have fucked you.
Starting point is 00:15:13 because that's what we do here in America. Fuck, man. I was showing it to live in Florida. Honestly, I proper fancied her. I thought she was gorgeous. Apple's the teacher, very English. Does that ever happen in England? No, I mean, it does.
Starting point is 00:15:28 It happens a lot here. You don't get away with it in England. It's a very, very... Well, you don't get away with it here. But it does happen quite a bit where a... I'm talking about female teachers who are like mid-20s. and they fuck this one in the news today
Starting point is 00:15:45 an 11 year old oh no that's fucked up man and she said I swear to God nah I hate that it makes me mad okay well that makes me angry don't fucking carry on me that shit don't turn this into Tokyo come on
Starting point is 00:16:00 but I swear to God she said he came on to me now fuck that bullshit I know but you gotta just give it up for an 11 year old that's fucking mental no way Uh, having game. No, yeah, I mean, fair.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I mean, okay, so 11 is too young, but, uh... 100% by like 10 years. Your teachers never hit on you like that. No, no, no, she, she, I don't know. I fancied her. That's all I knew. You know what I mean? I was like, fucking out.
Starting point is 00:16:29 But then maybe it's because she should have said something. I wrote her a song when I left school. Oh my God. And what was the upshot of? Fuck all. Did she respond? She didn't say nish. Really?
Starting point is 00:16:40 Nothing. Maybe the song wasn't good. Yeah, I agree. I mean, you're 15. I'm telling you, I think the song was shit. What was this song? Do you remember it? I can got a clue.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You don't remember it at all? I was like, ah, goodbye. Thank you. I love you. It's probably pretty fucking creepy, to be honest. Do you know the song, To Sur With Love? No, who's that? You'd love it, and you should sing it.
Starting point is 00:17:00 What song is it? It was a song in the sixth. There was a movie called To Serve With Love with Sidney Portier. Do you know who that is? No, I don't. He was the first African-American, I think he was from the island's originally. but he was a gorgeous black man who was like the first black movie star.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Sick. In the 60s, you know, when race was in a very different place here in America. Completely 100%. But he was still, he made a famous movie called Guess Who's Coming to Dinner in 1967, where the white girl falls for him and takes him home. And it's like, guess who's coming to dinner? It's like, oh, my gosh. That was, and that was very controversial, but handled very deftly.
Starting point is 00:17:40 and he did this movie called To Serve with Love took place in England and he was a teacher there and then he you know he you know they obviously at the beginning there's racism and the kids what is this this is in the 60s when there was no black people in London as opposed today where it's mostly a multiracial city and and the girl the white girl you know has a huge crush on him and and sings this song, which was a big hit by Lulu, and it's still one of my favorite song. I love Lulu, man. You know who that is?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, I fucking met. Do you know I met Lulu? At the Royal Albert Hall watching The Who. She must be 80. Yeah, she was hot still. I thought she was really cute. Wow. She's like, I'm Lulu.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm like, you're a fucking Lulu. Well, that's her big song. Yeah. To Sir With Love. Oh, that's Lulu. All right, cool. And those girls... There's Lulu's Scottish, isn't she?
Starting point is 00:18:39 she might be she married a beji yeah fair i think she's scottish but i remember seeing it they albert oh and she's i'm lulu i'm like you're lulu fucking i love that vibe and she you know the song is so beautiful those school girl days of telling tales and biting nails are gone and she's singing to this you know how can i thank someone who has taken me from crayons to perfume oh wow a beautiful line oh i oh i the whole thing is and it's a great song and it's a song for someone who can really sing. Oh, my God, that's badass. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:19:12 I'm going to write it down. Too sir with love. Too sir with love. And see the movie, because it takes place in your neck of the words. Too sir with love. I mean, I've written it down in my notes. I swear. No, I'm very disappointed if you don't sing the song.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Next time I see you, I'll be singing this year. And even if you don't put it out commercially, just you're in the studio. Make it and send it to me. All right, cool. I'll do it for Christmas. I mean, thank you. A little bow on it. Because I have her version, and then Al Green.
Starting point is 00:19:42 You know who Al Green is? Yeah, no, Al Green is, yeah. He did a version. Oh, did he? Yes, an R&B version. That's awesome. I love that, man. So you know some of those old cats.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, I love all that. I mean, my vibe was like, I grew up on, because my old man and my granddad had a guitar shop. So I grew up in a guitar shop. So I grew up on all like screaming Jay Hawkins and Muddy Waters and Bo Diddley. Oh, the old blues. The old blues stuff and then like into the Stooges and the stones and Bowie and shit. That's what I grew up on.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And then like a lot of Brit pop. I mean, I have no use for that old blue stuff, quite frankly. But I'm sure it's wonderful music. But I love what other generations did with it, quite frankly. I mean, you know, they just made it more commercial. Yeah. I mean, the Ere Clapton and the stones. 100% were totally raised on that.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And that's what they were doing. That's what I love about the Stones when they were like, we've got to bring muddy on TV because they won't let muddy on TV. Do you hear about that? First time they went on TV, they were like, we've got to bring muddy on TV.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Oh, we're not doing it. How sick is that? That's gangster. Yeah, that is. Sick as fuck. No, they, all those British bands who borrowed so generously from America and our roots,
Starting point is 00:21:03 and especially the black artists, were very cognizant of trying to pay it back i mean keith richards did that whole special with um chuck berry yeah i mean that's so funny that's fucking loud when chuck when he's like playing it wrong and chuck's getting mad at him and kees like what you fucking mean man i can't fucking do it and chuck berry god bless him being always chuck berry uh his attitude wasn't like thank you so much no it was Spanking Keith Rich is in the epic. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And Keith was like taking it like, yeah, man, what the fuck? That's Chuck Berry. It was an early version of what I'm sure is a very legitimate thing that black folks feel what they call now white saviorism. You know, like, don't think you're my fucking savior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I think it smelled like that to Chuck Berry. 100%.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Keith, it was, he had his heart. But I think Keith was coming out from like a fan perspective. And a wonderful, beautiful perspective of, yes, I want to acknowledge that we didn't invent this. No, we are standing on the shoulders of you guys and Chuck was like, sure, fuck you, when is my call time over and where is my money in cash? Get out of me, fucky, get off your stage. Thank you, Whitey. I just love that they could.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I'm telling you, Keith was fully just like, yeah, man, I love it. I love you, I love you, man. I love when people are just exactly saying what they think. I agree, and tight back, that's why I love the French. You know, let's just, yeah. Yeah, but, you know, that's why I love the fucking French. Let's not waste time.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I agree. Too much of life is lateral movement. I completely agree with it. Whenever you're doing small talk or saving feelings, which sometimes is certainly appropriate, but for just everything, you're just moving laterally, Whereas I like to move forward. I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:02 The thing about it is I think say what, like no matter what, even if you don't agree with people, say what you think and you'll probably have a better time. Even if like you have a disagreement at a party or you don't fucking politically understand someone or you don't whatever, I just think like the way you move forward together is you debate out and you're honest and I think like, ah, I respect that
Starting point is 00:23:23 or I think you're talking shit. You know what I mean? I like that vibe. Do you like tequila? I'm drinking it. I fucking ate tequila, mate. I'm trying. I fucking ate.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Well, then don't drink it. No, I agree. I agree with you. 50 other kinds of liquor. No, I agree. What do you drink? I used to drink beer, but I kind of got rid of my tits. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:46 I started to bog. I used to be a bit chunkier. So now I switched to vodka. No, you look very, well, yeah, in good, like, androgynous, Bowie, of course. thin white duke man thin white juke do you know when he had that thin white duke era juke duke duke oh d u k e i love it no fin white duke d uke yes the thin white duke one of his great characters epic man do you know he lived on green peppers and cocaine and milk to be the thin white juice well not his whole life no for like a year oh for a year in berlin green just to try it out
Starting point is 00:24:29 He lived in Berlin? Yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah. I think I mean... Then he took Iggy there, and I think he took Lou Reed there for Transformer. I think. I don't know about Lou, but I definitely know about Iggy. Iggy has got to stop performing with his shirt off.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I like Iggy, man. I saw him in London two weeks ago. But there is an expiration date on everything. No, I think it's kind of some Richard, like Richard the third shit. Like Shakespeare kind of like, I think that's kind of what he's going for. I know, Richard III performed with his shirt off. No, man, like the kind of scoliosis in the fucking, like, the beauty and the ugly kind of vibe.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Well, beauty and the ugly, okay, if that's what we're going... So you can call that Iggy, I'm wearing his pants right now. You want to see? I'm not going to take me pants off. I'm just going to show you, look. So these got made in the... I don't know when, but they say Iggy in them. Look.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Chromart's made these pants, look. Iggy. And your boyfriend's name is Calvin Klein? Fuck you. Fuck off. And wait, what's this tattoo? Wait, this tattoo. Oh, this tattoo here.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Oh, property of jar rule. Wait. Sure, you fuck. You're funny, I like you. You're funny as fuck. I'm telling you. We're gonna get on. Well, that's the first time we've had someone drop.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Not dropping trout. I've had one guest who did the show you fucking pants. I've had one guest who did the show like this. I mean, we have some interesting things that happened here. I was just like, we brought it. I've got a biggie, so I've got his pants. So where do you get those pants? Chrome arts.
Starting point is 00:26:03 No, chrome hearts? Is there a rock star store? So basically, yeah, I think it's this company is the rock star store. And that's in England? No, it's handmade in America. Yeah. Just the best thing about rock stars is I've learned two things meeting all the older rock stars.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You pick two avenues. And that is pirate or cowboy. Interesting. And I picked cowboy. Oh, I was going to say pirate. Fuck off. What do you mean a pirate? Well, I mean, I make up like that's certainly pirated.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah, fair, that is kind of pirate. But like chaps. This is piraty. Chap, no, chapsie, chaps. Okay, pirates might wear this. The chain, the cowboys don't. I really know. I mean, leather, yes, you needed chaps.
Starting point is 00:26:52 All right, fair. So I'm a bit of a mix of both. Yeah, I'm the hybrid. Which I think is better. I'm into that vibe, yeah. Fair, I'll take that. pirate cowboys. It's normal I've been owning the cowboy by, but I'm into pirate cowboy. Right. Well, what they have in common is that
Starting point is 00:27:06 pirates and cowboys are, of course, both sort of bad boys. Yeah, they're on the run. They're on the run. And they're making their own rules. Yeah. You know. But, you know, it's not like the cowboys didn't have to get the cows to market. I mean, they had a job. I'm having fun, me. I'm telling you, can I just stop this thing? I'm having a lot of fun here. It's what we do here. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I like this fuck, and I come from Japan, and I'm like, I'm having fun. Good.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I want you to have fun. No guest here doesn't. It's impossible. I won't let it happen. I can tell this man cave's incredible. Yeah, well, you know, it's like... Like, why the fuck, how we? I love it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah, I do, too. We could be in any era. We could be. You know what I mean? You're right. It almost feels futuristic, but it could be the 60s. Do you know what I mean? That's what I like about this room.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yes. Yeah, sometimes places just have a aura to them. And I'm not one of those touchy-feely guys. I'm not, I'm an atheist, you know, I don't believe in religion. Fair. You know, I don't know, man, because I was baptized. Well, so is I. I was baptized as a kid.
Starting point is 00:28:19 A kid, an infant? Yeah, like fucking 30. So you had no say in it? I don't know, man. For me, like, my vibe is sometimes, like I can't explain. magic especially being in a rock rock and roll band the amount of magic that i i don't know come across or feel right or something that happens in my belly or when when you step outside in front of 20,000 people or i just think it can't be just i don't know if i want to believe in that's just
Starting point is 00:28:50 it like i feel like some something somewhere there's a higher fucking power that's what i think that's my vibe like I think I've seen too much love and magic and yeah unexplainable shit well definitely unexplainable you know what I mean or like something's written I don't fucking know well I mean I think I think or maybe that's just a coping mechanism that's possible like saying it if you say it's written to yourself like I'm terrible at sleeping like especially with what's going on at the mean like when you were talking about earlier when you kind of on the eyes and people life is too exciting to go to sleep i'm like i'm fucking in bedlight right i don't blame you you should be what the fuck right and and and don't get into any sort of pill to help you sleep no i don't
Starting point is 00:29:42 because that that's good because that of all the drugs trust me of all the drugs those are the most addictive you the ones where you you start out with this dose but you always need more yeah man cocaine is like that in reverse you know i don't really do come I've never done cocaine. That's good too. I've got ADHD. It sends me to sleep. Did it once fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:30:05 The Coke put you to sleep. Yeah. Yeah, I totally understand that. Drugs, people think that's crazy. They think pot keeping me up is crazy because people mostly use it to go to sleep, but it has the... No, no, no. Honestly, if I smoke a bit of weed, it makes me awake. Can't do it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Would you like to? No, I can't. It makes me max. My mind runs a million miles an hour. an hour. If I have any of that, I'm like, bing, bing, bing. So you never write a song on pot? No, I do a little bit of hash. Well, that's the same drug.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It's a really small bit of a hash. No, it's a different vibe, isn't it? That pot's like, makes me like, whoa. It's the same drug. It's the pot is just, hash is just pot. Hash is a bit more like, zzz. That's how it makes it feel. But I'm telling you, it's all THC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just that hash is like they took pot and they squeezed it.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But if I do that shit, I just like become stupid. Yeah, but don't. No, no, no. I never encourage people to smoke pot. Because if you gave me something like now, I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to. I'm like, well, no, we don't want that. No, we don't want that. No, we're not going to get it.
Starting point is 00:31:17 No fun for anyone. I've got to be watching it on like, what a fucking cunt. Okay, we're not giving you pot. I'm done. I'm into it. I'm into it. I just sit to the vodka. Okay, Mr. Blood.
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Starting point is 00:33:23 it takes the fun out of the main event and the main event is going on stage right if you're on drugs right you're never gonna like if I walk up the stage you you lose everything you lose the best thing about being on stage is you feel multiple things you feel excited you feel turned on you feel grateful you feel full of love you feel full of anger you feel a million different things that are sexual yeah sexual everything right you feel every fucking thing in your head at once. If you're on drugs, then you're on drugs.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Like, you feel, like, there's only one feeling when you're on drugs, and that's, I'm on drugs. Well, do you know what I mean? It's like, if you're at a festival and you take something, you're like, oh, I know where I'm at right now, whereas I would rather remain a little bit more pure.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So I feel, if it numbed or changed me being on stage, I think that'd be brutal. Well, again, it affects everybody differently. For some people, I would think I am one of them. I mean, I could take a drug that made me only think that I was on drugs. But like this drug, it just enhances... To me, that's not a drug, though. That's a plant.
Starting point is 00:34:41 That was like God-given. No, it's a drug. If it makes you feel different, it's a drug. Yeah, fair, fair. I mean, everything is a plant. Yeah, I know, you're right. Every drug originally comes from some sort of plant. Sometimes they take it to a lab.
Starting point is 00:34:53 and make it into a pill, but it came from a blet. Okay, it wasn't just, what? I'm not, I'm just fucking about. I do that when I'm just like fucking vibing. Okay, I'm a vibing, man. You keep talking. Sometimes I'll make faces. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You enjoy. But, like, this to me is just, it takes whatever I'm feeling and just kind of puts it on the moving walkway at the airport. You're like, you're going in that. Yeah, you're floating. You float. You're not floating, but you're not floating. I like, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know, that thing you get on... The thing about that is it enhances any feeling. So, like, that's why you can't take it to got a bed. Because if I'm... For example... No longer if you're sad. Yeah, because it makes you more sad. People don't realize that.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, I agree. My dog died a week ago. What kind of dog was it? A dead one now. Fair. Now, a little, I don't know. He was a mutt with one eye. Oh, fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:35:47 We just got a cat with one eye called Scar. It had one eye when you got him? Yeah. She's a ledge. Oh, why did you get yours taken out? Well, he had a fight with a car and did not win it. Oh, fuck. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah, but that was like, he lived for the line. What was his name? Chico. Chico. Chico, the pirate. Yeah, Chico, oh, he was. I mean, Chico, if, you know, you could just look at him and know, this dog did time. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah. This dog did time. Just a little bit for Keith. And it didn't bug him. I mean, he was great. I mean, he would bite you if you tried to bite you. if you tried to pet them, which I let me do it. Especially when you're drunk.
Starting point is 00:36:26 People forget if you're drunk and you try and go to a dog, they feel weird because you're not yourself. Honestly, I heard the most amount of dog bites come from. You know, for example, say like you've been out with your mates and the dogs there and you kind of come over, like you're more abrupt, you're less cautious, you're less respectful, so they'll bite you. I read something about it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 That may be true. And I got bitten loads of times drunk by dogs. This dog would just bite me always. I mean, only after the... I'm just saying if you reached out to pet him on the head because of the one eye, he after... Before he had the one eye, he was fine. But then he just got scared because he couldn't see.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And Chico was not the kind of dog to give warning. You know, some dogs were like, er. Chico was like, no warning. We go right to biting. So it was... You know, I used to always say to him, Chico, I'll pet you when you're dead. And then last week I got the chance And then people said to me, you know
Starting point is 00:37:24 Oh, you should smoke some pot I'm like, no, it just would make it worse It would enhance my sadness Yeah, you'd be like It's gonna take whatever I feel And put it on steroids Yeah, yeah, make it 15 times Why I actually do steroids
Starting point is 00:37:40 No, I'm gonna I was like, you take steroids No, I thought you're looking a bit fucking big when you came up No No, but you look like you could Jump around the stage I like it, yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I mean, I've seen clips of you. I'm obsessed of it. You know, we've got a guy over here, Benson Boone. What? Yeah, he's funny him. He's what? He's funny. He's funny.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He's funny. Funny ha-ha. Makes me laugh. Oh, why? I don't know how he's funny. He's mustache and shit. Oh, yeah. He does kind of look like Doug Henning in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah, he looks like a 70s porn star. Or a magician. Yeah, he does. It's like, what's in the hat? What's in the hat? I'm telling you. But he's also... Oh, I love now, but he's funny.
Starting point is 00:38:26 But he's also very talented. Yeah, he's a great singer, but he makes me laugh. And he jumps around. I don't know if he thinks his mustache is funny or not. I'm telling you, he might know what he don't. I bet he's like, yo, I look like a porn star sick. That's a very good question. Is he doing it ironically?
Starting point is 00:38:43 I think so. You know what I think he's doing it? It's like, you know, he's a rock star now. He's jumping around the stage. He's that age. It's like you have to have something to keep the bitches away. It's like, there's too many girls. Oh, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's like something to turn off some percentage of them. I wish I could fucking grow a moustache. I can't. You can't grow a moustache? Come on. Telling you, I ain't got shit, I ain't even got chest there, but nothing. You got a little around your nipples. A little bit of fucking filled.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Well, maybe you, it's the rock star thing. I'm telling you. I mean, Mick Jagger... But Jim Morrison had a good fortune. Mick Jagger is 112 years old. Yeah. And he has the exact same, like, 28-inch waist he had. Legend.
Starting point is 00:39:32 That is just someone who was born a rock star. Yeah, yeah. You know, the Rolling Stones, they're amazing because, like, they never put on weight. They, even when they got, you know, one of them got cancer, they didn't lose their hair. They just are rock stars. I'm saying like, I just, my vibe is that I got to be a little bit good, because I think from my mom's side I get a bit, a little bit of tub on. So I've got to watch what I, watch what I eat.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But I, uh... That's not much of a... No, a little bit, I'm saying like... That's, you know what, you don't want to be machine... It's your Mick, man, they just kept it tight, didn't they? You know what I mean? Naturally. You don't want to be machine gun, Kelly, who looks too emaciated. And I like skinny.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Skinny and thin. And I keep myself as possible at my age. I thought I got a bit too skinny this year. I was like, fucking out. You can't. No. I like looking a bit like I'm down a fucking ride. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:30 Ariana Grande has a new fast food restaurant. It's called Look at the Box. Fucking Ariana Grande, man. She's a, she's a cute, if I. Okay, but she could put on a couple of pounds. And that's somebody who... Do you know what? Do you not find who Ariana Grande?
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'd bring her back to Yorkshire and give her a couple of things. with yorks of puddings. Would that do the trick? I'm telling you. Yeah. Cuddle on yorks puttings. Give her a cuddle. Give her a fucking cold. Take it to the cold and give her a cup of yorks pudding. I'm sure you'll be doing duets with her soon. She's got a good voice and so.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And so do you. I mean, people want to work. Yeah. What? I don't know. I just fucking did it again. I just have these sporadic fucking things, man. That's fine. You said you've got a good voice and felt like singing. It's sort of like a delightful version of Tourette's.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah, it's fully. that. It's Tourette's delightful. Tiret's about the forks. Yeah, you don't want to do that. But this is good. But I mean, people of, you know, a certain caliber talent only want to work with people
Starting point is 00:41:33 who are equal. Yeah, 100%. Which is understandable. I think that's when it makes sense as well. You know what I mean? Like you've got to, I think when you're kind of looking for a collaboration, you want to be able to stand next to someone on stage and almost shit yourself. to be like, are they going to be better than me? You know what I mean? You want not like healthy competition, don't you?
Starting point is 00:41:53 You want a healthy competition, yes. And you also want to feel like you're not slumming. Yeah, yeah, I agree. You want to feel like you're with people who are on your level. Yeah, on your way, even on your level, 100%. You know, I mean, because, you know, life is not a democracy. Talent is not meted out, you know, according just to whoever wants it. It's sad to say lots of people would love to be a rock star.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I'm sorry, you didn't pull that in the lottery. Yeah, man. I mean... It's a funny one, in it? I think... Yeah, I love it. I fucking love being on stage. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Of course. It's fucking great. Can you imagine your life if you really were an archaeologist? Yeah, I think you're right. I think I'd be a weird... I think I'd probably be a TV archaeologist. A TV, even that. I mean, you'd have to do the real work.
Starting point is 00:42:46 You'd have to go out. No one would let me be honest. TV because I mean the fucking pyramids man what okay well the fucking Roman shield it's you wouldn't even be at the pyramid no I I agree pyramids would be a fucking Ramada compared to where you would be which would be in the middle of fucking nowhere because archaeologists are looking for the yeah you're right you're right of from of our human ancestors yeah no you're right you know I mean like because we all think it's gonna be like the mummy and
Starting point is 00:43:12 shit you know that film the mummy I watched it on the plane back from Japan. Really? The CGI is so bad on that film. Honestly, when I was a kid, I was like, what the fuck? It's terrible now. But I watched the mummy. I was like, I could have been an archaeologist, but definitely wouldn't be that. But I mean, they spend decades, literally. Sweating, scratching your ass trying to find a fucking... Scratching in the dirt. Yeah. And like, you of course only hear about the successes. Yeah, fair. Do you know who Lucy is?
Starting point is 00:43:42 No. Who's Lucy? You said that like the French. No. Fuck, no. Fuck, who's Lucy? Lucy is a skeleton of our, really our, what they think is, our first really humanoid ancestors. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Two and a half million years ago. Shit, wow. Yeah. What to find her. She's about, oddly at your pub. No, I'm fucking telling you, man. No. In East Africa.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Oh, fuck, cool. The cradle of civilization. I mean, yeah. And that is where humans, I think, first appeared, humanoid. I mean, we're way, we're two million years before we get to our species, homo sapient. Yeah, yeah, cool. But this is a humanoid. She's about four foot tall. That's how tall women were, humans were at that time. Wow. But she did stand upright. She stood upright?
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yes. Absolutely. And didn't get credit for it. Fair. Lucy, man, I lied. Lucy, and they named her Lucy. I can't remember why. But, I mean, you know, that, like if you did that, you would be celebrated and maybe you would get that rush that you get on stage.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But it would happen just once in your life. Yeah, once in your life. I get it every night. If ever. I get it every night. Fuck, yeah. Fuck. Found Lucy every night.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Well, you don't play every night. Well, two shows on one day off. Because you're on tour. But when you're not on tour... Fucking horrible. Life is horrible? Hate it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Telling you. You'll get over that. No, I agree. But I like, I love it at a minute. I just love being on the road. I love being on my bus. I don't leave my bus. My tour bus, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Even if I've got a right-nice hotel. You will definitely get over there. Yeah, probably. I got a five-star hotel. I go in the hotel, wash me winky, and then fucking head back to the bus. You sleep on the bus? Love it. By choice.
Starting point is 00:45:44 By choice. Wow. Love it. That is interesting. I think the thing about hotels are freak me out. There's no consistency. Do you know what I mean? It's like a new room.
Starting point is 00:45:57 You've got just to a new energy. And then some nights you've got some fucking shagging next door or events going, pv. If you're in a five-star hotel, you shouldn't be hearing them shagging next door. I'm telling you, fucking rich people fuck too, man. They do. But the five-star hotel,
Starting point is 00:46:15 are built so that you don't hear it. I mean, I've stayed in five-star hotels. Not the five-star hotels, I'm staying in, obviously. Really? Well, five-star is five-star. But I will concede you this. I have been on the road since the 80s, and I just quit, and one of the reasons I quit,
Starting point is 00:46:34 partly is because, like, you know what, I'm 70, and I don't fucking need to drag. You're 70. You look good for 70. Thank you, pal. Telling, look at your fucking forehead. Let's see that stomach again. No.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Just like basic shit, and they can fuck it up. Yeah, freak out on hotels. And the hotel can fuck it up. Yeah, it's weird. The thing about my buses is how I want my room to, like, if you're in America, when you tour America, it's kind of weird. When you tour Europe, you come to a different culture, different language, different food every day. So you're kind of down to embrace that a little bit more. When you're in America, six weeks of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:47:14 You know what I mean? I mean, obviously you get like Dallas and Seattle and great cities, but I like my, but when I'm in America, I like my bus. I like me bike boots, I like a midnight truck stop and I like my bus because that makes things like comfortable in America. And I just can't,
Starting point is 00:47:30 I just don't foot with the hotels when I'm here. A midnight truck stop? Yeah, where you want to get the food? I don't eat that. I just have a couple of drinks and just, because the vibe is like, because the drives are so long in America if you leave in like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:47:43 Salt Lake City to like Austin you got like a stop in the day and then you keep going it's like you drive and there's normally like five buses on our tours because I got a bus
Starting point is 00:47:58 band's got a bus crew's got a bus rigors have got a bus everyone's got a bus you got your own bus yeah oh yeah the same size as the other but what's a lot of bus
Starting point is 00:48:10 for one guy a lot of buses man a lot of buss for one guy yeah i like the vibe though you got you get your back room you got like your toilet you can you can't have a shit in the toilet on the bus not allowed you got a piss even on your own it's your bus what do you can't do it on your own drain up you won't shit in your own bus no truck stop but what if you have to you got in the driver and be like yo i really need the toilet and they're like all right man i'll stop at the next services you'd rather lay a load in a fucking strange
Starting point is 00:48:43 truck stop toilet than in your own bus or in a five-star hotel yep i think that's my vibe don't man i like you the thing about the because the best thing about is that people will all swap buses so the best the best part is the crew bus because the crew or just party till 6 a.m. then load in then sleep all day before the gig so if you're on a party you go to the crew bus and like you then the best thing about it is we'll meet at a truck stop at like three a m and then we'll all go back we'll go go got a bed but like you party while you're driving so i love with like three a m truck stop in america's the best you get a fucking slim gym crack a slim gym and these are with the groupies you took from the last city no i don't really do groupies it's 2025 in it
Starting point is 00:49:32 can't be doing that shit anymore oh right like fucking fans ever goes out of style Shut the fuck off. Like, nobody's ever going to fuck a groupie again because it's 20, 25. You know what? Where's AI when you need it to... What? No comment.
Starting point is 00:49:54 So tell me you've never availed yourself. I've what's availed myself mean? Availed yourself means not taking advantage in a bad way, but just a female was enamored of you because of your talent, shall we say. I haven't been that big for that long yet. It's on, I told you, it's on the way up that it's fun. It's the best time before it gets to, yes, soon it will be the case where there's more sharks in the water.
Starting point is 00:50:25 There are some, I don't know what this, I don't know, I don't know what this symbolism. Just my no comment, sit. I see. All right, I mean, I'm not like a, this is, like, I. Anyway, I like a late night truck stop. I'm not looking to pry into your... No, I'm into the vibe, man. I'm having fun.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah, me too. I'm going to keep... And it's always... And it's always... And you shouldn't be ever put off by the fact that to people who are not rock stars, otherwise known as 99.999% of the population,
Starting point is 00:51:03 the rock star, there's a reason why it's a word in the language now, rock star meaning anybody doesn't have to be a literal rock star it's just fascinating to people because it's sort of like uber normal human behavior you're allowed no i i do you know what i think the world has gone a bit mad i think with it all i think as long as you're fucking nice and respectful and vibe in then what's the fucking problem that's what i think i think with it all with rock music with sex with everything as long as everything's fucking consensual and a vibe and real and nice what's the issue
Starting point is 00:51:38 That's my vibe. That's my take on it. All love, baby. All fucking love. Geez, I'll embroider that on a pillow. Telling you, embroider that shit on a pillow. Oh, shit, I dropped a line. Who gave you that speech?
Starting point is 00:51:50 Me. You're a publicist? No, I did. I fucking did. I believe in the love. I love the love. Really? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:51:57 No, who doesn't? Like, who doesn't love love? Yeah, I agree. Because, like, religion, you know, look, I'm basically what you're saying is I don't disagree. We don't know. I think where I come across differently than, like, the person who says anything about the next world is my attitude about things we just can't know is, well, then I'm just not going to make up any story about them. I'm not going to believe or not or not believe anything because I'll never know.
Starting point is 00:52:29 So I'm just going to say that's in this other compartment, March, I can never know. So I'm just not going to think about it at all. Like, for whatever reason, we're here. Yeah. This dude, who I never met, who I'm having such a good time. I love this guy. And we're here. And we were born in different continents.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And somehow, well, maybe this is just a, this is just a dream that somebody else is. Right, exactly, that somebody else is happening, happening. Or whatever it is, I'm just going to live in the, in the, reality i've come to know it's so weird i always think that i was literally thinking about like what sim i mean especially at the minute i'm like what simulation is it it could be it's all the time like when you're on stage like right what the fuck like honestly i i'm still but you also must have a feeling like why me why have all the people in the world did jesus point his finger down and say give that guy sing motherfucker give that guy the torrebus life very weird
Starting point is 00:53:37 yeah it's always why you I think that's what does keep me up a night sometime did you do something right in the last life maybe I was a good fucking beaver or some shit and you got bumped up to rock star beaver to rock star I feel like
Starting point is 00:53:53 you go beaver to shoe salesman you know I don't think I don't think you go directly you don't go directly to rock the rock star from beaver you got to like just be a regular human
Starting point is 00:54:07 and like deal with that. Be a shoe salesman and not be bitter, and then we'll see about being a rock fit. I think that's how... Nah, man, I bypassed it went straight from beaver. Made a good fucking damn looked after me, pops. Well, I'm sure you've seen a lot of beaver. Do they have that term in England?
Starting point is 00:54:26 Beaver. Is that what they... Not really, no. You know what that is in America? Is that mean Fanny? Beaver means pussy. Yeah, Fanny. Fanny?
Starting point is 00:54:34 We call it Fanny. I never heard of that. Never heard Fanny. Fanny? Fanny? Fanny. F-A-N-N-Y? F-A-N-Y. That's what we call an ass. That's an old term, her fanny. Oh, really? Oh, no, we... That means, that means a woman's...
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah, genitals. Like, specifically or sex in general? No, genitals. Oh. You fanny. The lingam. Yeah, you don't... The yon-y, whatever. It's a bit more like, the thing about a British accent, it's a bit more...
Starting point is 00:54:59 Woo-hoo! And like, because I couldn't say the P-U-S-S-Y. It's a bit weird, like... Just like, Fanny's like a bit more like... But you guys use cunt. I mean, yeah, but we don't use cunt in that word. I'll call it. All right, you couldn't.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Right. It's a much more benign word. Yeah, it's more fun. It's more fun. Yeah, it's not like serious. The C-U-N-T word's not serious. No, it's not. Especially in the south.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Right. The thing about it is, in the north, of England, it's a little bit more disrespectful, like America. If you say, if you say, cunt in America. I was like in the south of England, everyone's like, all right, you can't say, is it fucking going
Starting point is 00:55:45 when they speak like this and all that. In the north, but I said CUNC to my mother, she washed my mouth out with fucking soap. North is what, like Liverpool. Yeah, like Manchester, Doncaster, Liverpool, Newcastle. So Manchester is north? Manchester's north.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Is anything north of London? Yeah, fucking up. Americans are like, oh, I've been to the north of London. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that in the UK. Right, there's London, if that's the UK, right, that's Scotland. Oh, that's a different country.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Well, I mean, it's part of the UK. Yes, 100%. You have Gaelic roots? No, I don't. I'm like, a Portuguese Jew. Oh. Romanian Gypsy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:24 English. Roma? Romanian Gypsy, yeah. I mean, on my mom's side. Yeah. Holy fuck. My father. Yeah, my mom never knew a father.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Well. My mom never knew a father. Cowboy and Pirate. Cowboy and Pirate. Trump's by Gypsy. Yeah. Gypsy's like even more... On my mother's side, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Wow. My mom's father was a gypsy. Okay. Well, that begins to explain your charisma and stuff. I think that's like I never want to be in one place. I freak out if I'm in one place for too long. Because you're a gypsy. I think so.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I really do think that. My mom always says that. She's like, you've got that. Because my mom never knew her dad. My mum's dad knocked my grandma up then. And how do you know when you're really, hey, my wallet? What? Ah!
Starting point is 00:57:16 I was like, yeah, see ya, here you go. Got you. Got you when you walked in. But you knew this when you were a kid? Yeah, well, I always thought my grandfather was Rod Stewart. And was he? No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Because my mom never had a dad. So my grandmother always lied to me. So you just figured Rod Stewart? had fucked so many women. It's not a bad assumption. In all fairness, right? I'm from the north. My mum never had a dad, but I don't think my mother or my grandmother wanted to upset me.
Starting point is 00:57:46 So she always said to me, Rod Stewart was me. Oh, that's funny. Grandfather. So I was always like, fucking, oh, man. I have this rock star granddad from being like free to 11. And when I found out, I was in a supermarket. Right. And I picked up a Rod Stewart CD.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah, I was with my mother's mom, my grandmother. I was like, like nine or fucking 11 or some shit. And I was like, picked up this CD and was like, no, I'm proper quivering lit. Like, when's granddad going to reach out to me? When's granddad coming home? And everyone at the checkout started hysterically laughing because obviously they caught my grandmother in a blatant lie.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And that's the day I found out, Ross Schultz was with my grandfather. You know what I mean? But your grandfather was, My grandfather was a gypsy. No, a rock star, wasn't he? Wasn't your grandfather? No, my dad's side.
Starting point is 00:58:41 T-Rex? So my dad's side, my grandfather was a keys player. He would audition for T-Rex and didn't get in. That's too bad because, like, bang a gong, do you know it? Bang a gong, get it on. Bang-a-gong, get it on. Epic, man. That was the shit I got brought up on.
Starting point is 00:59:03 So on my father's side, my grand, so it was like my grand, my dad's dad's dad, my dad's dad's brother, Philip was a doctor and my dad's dad was a musician. So my granddad was almost like a black sheep in the family. What's that? Fuck is that white shit you put it in that? Why do people freak out when I use liquid heroin? Like it's not a party, okay? A little bit of age, man.
Starting point is 00:59:33 You know, why... What's jing? It's... It's... It's... It's... Boy, that stopped you in your tracks, huh? Yeah, soda.
Starting point is 00:59:40 You know, it's actually very healthy. Lemon's lime. It's a way to have... Is this weed as well? It's a way to have... Uh, soda without any chemicals. Should have. I want to put a bit on me, vodka.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Mm. All right, jing. You should. It's very tasty. Jing, jing. There are different... I'm in a way, man. Here, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Look, here. Take this. Oh, shit. Sorry, you got me a stirer. There you go. Could take the boy out and off. What do you think? We're on a tour bus, you know, or this is civilization now.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I'll give you that back, sir. Thank you. What was I talked about? Oh, yeah, my granddad was a musician. So my grandfather, my grandfather would basically obsess over old records of me. It'd be like, oh, this is a good shit. He'd like playing me the stooges or MC5.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You should see my record collection. Oh, really? Because, I mean, I was 12 in 1968. Fucking hell, that's great. Yeah, it's good. I mean, it does make a drink. It's like what's in it, it's stevia and shit. It's stevia, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I can tell it's stevia. It's actually made by a chemist who, you know, knows his shit and is... Is he a mate? Is he a mate? No, I would... Oh, I understand what the word means. I wouldn't... We're going to be friends, me, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We're mates already. But I wouldn't say he's a mate, but I've met him and, you know, not every... You know, he's a doctor. I like people who know more than me about something. Yeah, all right. I mean, it's great to pick people's brains. My favorite three words are, I don't know, because when I say that, I learned something.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You know what? My vibe is like, people are so afraid to say I don't know. Johnny, if you're in an interview and you asked me a question, man, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I tried to skirt around the subject. I love saying, I don't fucking know what you're talking about. You know what? Because it shows you're confident. It shows your people, you know who never says, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:01:27 unconfident people, who wants you to think they know everything already. I hate that, man. Like, what's the point of life? Because they, you know, they just can't give it up. Whereas, like, if you're confident that I already know I'm a smart person and people think I'm a smart person, I don't have to then pretend I know everything. I always say, I ain't got a Scooby-Doo. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It's usually I ain't got a clue. You know, like, we do that. In English, we fucking rhyme shit. Like, my favorite, yeah, we say, let's have a butcher's. What's that mean? You know what that means? Let's have a butcher's hook. Let's have a look.
Starting point is 01:02:00 A butchers? Let's have a butcher's hook, let's have a look Butcher's hook, I don't know Or like the apple and pears I don't know what the word butcher You mean like a meat? Yeah, yeah, but let's have a look You say let's have a butcher's.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Oh wow It's weird Or like I'm going to go up with the apples Apples and pairs I've heard that one, yes Stairs Right It's weird man
Starting point is 01:02:21 I don't know why we fucking do that But we do Only a cunt says that But no it's true The cunt is not a bad word I like the word there and they use it and use it across it's not it doesn't refer just to a woman that's the different no i agree return to a person she's just a person anybody can be a count
Starting point is 01:02:41 the word is the australians i like you can't vying australia you can't the australian you can't the australians use it right every fucking honestly like every every every walk of life uses it like a grandmother will be like l i can't i bless this meal you're so right when you say it's just not serious. Whereas here it's serious. Yeah. Especially if you say, boy, I'd like to fuck your cunt. Oh, fuck, yeah. That gave me a fuck. So you know what real confidence looks like? It's smooth, unshakable, and just a little bit daring. The kind of confidence that sticks with you long after the lights go out. And it's the kind every guy deserves in the bedroom. That's where Rougat go long comes in. This isn't just another ED pill. It's a kind. It's a kind.
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Starting point is 01:05:17 That's too serious. Yeah, that's triggered me. My vibe is like, because the Americans have started using it. I mean, like, oh, on TikTok, you're serving cunt, which I don't get, but it's made it more acceptable in America, which is like you're giving me attitude. Isn't it great the way America and England, of course, we've had our differences, we had to break away from England, fight a war.
Starting point is 01:05:42 It's a long time. It's a long time. A long time, well, exactly. But the way culturally, certainly in my lifetime, there's been this back and forth, I mean, rock and roll on that. That started here. And then you guys took it and brought it to, I mean, the Beatles and the Stones and the Who. And Oasis and the Stones and the Who, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:03 You know, whenever it clapped, you know, like all that. I mean, you, and then we would take back. I mean, I mean, there's just a wonderful sort of sympatico between the two cultures, which have enough that is not in common so that they kind of complement each other. You know, they bring things to each other. I love playing America. I'll bet you do. I love it. I just, I think everyone, like, for example, say I'm in like Cleveland or fucking
Starting point is 01:06:31 Milwaukee. I'm at radio. They laugh at me. If I come into a radio station, I'm like, oh, I'm fucking with my accent. Everyone laughs at me. Why? I don't know. We never heard a British accent? No, I think honestly, I mean, if you're in fucking Idaho, I'm like that you're British. Especially musicians. We've heard a thousand fucking musicians who have your accent. Not in the flesh occasionally. You know what I mean? It's funny. Every time I'm going to Idaho radio station, I'm like, hello.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I'm like, ha. I mean, in my formative years, my first years of listening to music, it was mostly either Motown, which was very American. Sick. Obviously, we know that. But it wasn't, it was British. Yeah, man. It was the Beatles and the Stones and the Who and the Holly. I wish I would have been around for that.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And a moody blues and T-Rex and David Bowie and like, and clapped, I mean, it was just, it was mostly, first of all, for some reason, like the male band, that's an extinct species. Weird, right. In my, that first era when I was listening music, that was the main, the doors and the, everybody. Yes, I just got into the doors, you know, I just got into Jim Morris and just, I thought a bit of a cunt for a bit until this year when I started like listen to him properly I was like why did you think he was a come I don't know I think I think everyone overhyped him
Starting point is 01:08:02 you know when everyone's like oh yeah well anytime you die they do yeah everyone's like yeah dying is the best career move but then if you really want to blow up die yeah in it I'm telling you I just made it through 27 I thought about that move the needle but the problem is I want no shit 28 is the new 27 I don't think I'm gonna be fucking 75 up for like skin like leather. I'm telling you. If you live, it's a terrible move. Yeah, really?
Starting point is 01:08:28 It's a terrible move. All right, fuck it. I mean, come on, man. Come on, them bullocks. No, but it is true. I mean, he's blown up beyond proportion because he died. That always happens.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I mean, he was phenomenal. That's what I've learned this shit. But he also was, but they were also great. The stuff they did put out was mostly good. Not everything, not everything, not anything anybody puts out is good.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But a lot of their shit, First of all, they had like the backing band was jazz. You know, the backing band was not a typical rock band. No, it wasn't. So you had a much more sophisticated sound. I agree. And I think the thing about it is, is that I think when you think about rock stars or rock music,
Starting point is 01:09:08 like it's such a strange thing, because it's such a genre of, almost now, a genre of rules, you know what I mean? It's almost like a sacred thing at a museum where you take the fucking rope back and be like, this is rock music. If it's anything different, you can't be in this exhibition. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:25 That's how you think of it? Sometimes I think rock music is a beautiful genre because it's so, it's sacred. Sometimes it was a thing of the past, but it's beautiful right now to be a part of a new movement within it. The thing about... It never went away. No, it never went away. That's why I love it. You're right.
Starting point is 01:09:45 It was superseded by rap and Taylor Swift. In terms of the mainstream, right? It was never, like I, I'm obsessed with rock music because of what, I grew up in a guitar show. I'm like, what the fuck? I was obsessed with rock stars since I was three years old. But the thing about the doors is, it's such a prime example.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Rock music is defined by its attitude. And it's frontman, because it's rooted in jazz music and the fucking weird synthesizers. And it's not heavy guitars, it's not the kinks. in the same era it's not kinks it's not let's play the who let's no like it's not fuck you no it isn't it's a lot more poetic intellectual um yes it's a turned up nose kind of but it's in the same way it's still fuck you and he also dropped his pants famously he did man he fucking did and then masturbated on the front row crazy bastard
Starting point is 01:10:45 you're so right about that i mean uh there if you listen to like the end that 11-minute song, which is in apocalypse now. I love that, Joe, if I can't sleep. It's like... I put that on the bus, and I've got my fucking vibes on. My vibe is I always put drapes. I was a spider there. Yeah, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:11:03 No, I love it. I'll tell you something. After my dog died, and I go back into the closet to put the lanterns there, and there were these two spiders down. And I usually just see one, and they were like two inches apart, and it looked to me, like, off the ground,
Starting point is 01:11:18 because they're on their web, Yeah. And it just looked like they were boyfriend and girlfriend. Oh, that's cool. And I thought, normally I would kill you guys. But you're having a good time. Not tonight. No more animals are going to die tonight, even though I don't really want to sleep in this bedroom with spiders crawling around.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I'm going to let you vibe out. I love it. I love the spiders, man. Do you know what? Honestly, I think they're so fucking cool. But that was a week ago, I'm going to kill this. Yeah, and I'm going to kill this spider. Where is this spider?
Starting point is 01:11:49 Look, he's on, don't kill the spider on the thing. He's here, look, he's here. He's here, he's that? He's on the lamp. Oh, that one. Look, he's riding. Yeah. We're not going to kill him.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Hey, bud. Isn't this cool? Yeah, this is so sick. Have you noticed if this guy looks just like Kanye? Yeah, I did think that earlier. Isn't that weird? Is that Kanye? No.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Who is it? I don't know. This is like from before Kanye was nearly on the scene. That looks like Elvis and it looks like Kanye. And it does a little like August. Honestly, when I walked in, I was a bit like, Why the fuck is this guy? You're a bit like Elvis.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Oh, do you like, oh, really? And I'm a hugest Elvis man. I love Elvis. You do? Elvis is killer. Oh. Do you really know all this stuff? Not really.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Okay, I should play you with stuff because, like, I'm not a fan of, like, the early Elvis when he first came. You know, I mean, Heartbreak Hotel, the first one, that's pretty good. I mean, yeah. You could sing that one. Yeah, man, that'd be sick. Since I'm a bad, you've left me. Go on, man. I love it.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I found his place to dwell on the end, the lonely street. You all my heartbreak hotel. I love that. Do you like the film? Do you like the film or not? No, he made terrible movies. I mean, he made a few at the beginning when they were using him as an actor, and he could have been a great actor, but that fucking criminal, who was his manager,
Starting point is 01:13:09 yeah, the colonel, put him in all these travel-log movies because they made money. Yeah, weird. But when he got, so I'm not a fan of that. I mean, he started in 56. He had two amazing years of like 100, hundreds, but like a dozen hits. But none of them that I'm interested in. Then he went in the Army. Then he did the movies with all those songs, Forgettable.
Starting point is 01:13:34 When he came out of the movie contract in 1968, and he did the comeback special. That fucking letter suit, man. From then until he died, that period, people don't know this. he had he was given a great batch of songs like like suspicious minds we can go on together with suspicious minds i mean what a what a song we can build our dreams on suspicious minds great man i love that you should do that one that's a good idea um from from like 68 to then when he died in 77 that decade he had a great band nobody ever says this he had a great band and he had and he had a great batch of songs not all of them but um a lot of them and some of them are people don't
Starting point is 01:14:28 know but a lot of them are terrific and they're and they're mature they're not like that early blah-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-l-l-l-h-ha-l-l-ha-l-l-l-ha-l-ha-l-l-a-l-l-reck-a-l-l-l-a-l-crum-a-l-l-crum-a-l-l-clic. What? What the fuck did you say? You know, I mean, he was a bit of a parody of himself with a little karate. Look out, man. We've seen that Jack Wyatt thing. Look out, man. There's some two guns to be a little karate. Look out, man. I love that. Right there.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Have you seen that for air? What's that spin-off of it? Walk hard. Historic. Walk hard. Yeah, that pit-word. I want 10,000 did youre news. I love that film.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I want 16 girls for 10,000 didrid news. And the little cameo that the guy does as Elvis is hysterical. Oh, it's so good. Yeah, Jack White. The White Stripes. Is that who did that? Play's Elvis. You're kidding.
Starting point is 01:15:27 That's who did that? Look out, man. Right. Look out, man. Right. That's Jack White. That's Jack White. well thank you look out man i love that fucking film that's why i say i watch on the bus all the time
Starting point is 01:15:40 with the guys i fucking love that i do too that's that's jadapitown yeah so good i mean that the giraffe yeah that he has in the backyard you know the line out of love it's like i'm gonna miss some of the kids birthdays i'm gonna miss some of their births johnsy riley that is fucking great man and then when they the Beatles part when the Beatles come in there we're the Beatles we're taking some time in India
Starting point is 01:16:10 Jack Jack Black alright oh hello more than you could possibly imagine I love that bit the Dylan section were we singing the song for the midgets
Starting point is 01:16:22 yeah so good that is genius come imagine I fucking love it man what a film yeah that is genius comedy no so fucking good man he's so good all right well i'm glad we agree on that i'm glad we agree on that too so you
Starting point is 01:16:37 can really drink yeah i thought i was i'm english aren't i so fucking yeah i'm back in it that's the thing about england is that they go to pubs where the um generations mix yeah no you're right what we don't do in america like you go to the corner i love that because i remember every Christmas, I really feel lucky because I would almost feel insecure as fuck with my dads and my grandfather's mates because they would quiz me a lot on, like, music and history and blah, blah, blah. So I'd, like, learn a lot of stuff which helped me later on in life when I was kind of, I don't know, like, talking to all the rock stars or whatever, they'd be like, do you know these
Starting point is 01:17:24 records? And I'd be like, yeah, because I would feel like such shit. at 12 for not knowing like fucking screaming Jay Orkins or some shit. Really? So I'd go and find that myself. I think like when I was like 12 or 13, I'd be taken to a pub and they'd give me like a shandy. Right. Taken by who?
Starting point is 01:17:43 Well, my dad. Would take you to pub at 12? Yeah. Here they'd call child services. Well, no, they're fucking, well, that's weird, isn't it? Because I loved it because I was like, I'd be like sat. Oh, sure. I would have loved it too.
Starting point is 01:17:54 We'd break, we'd break in the UK. break like you open a bag of crisps and then you share it in the table you don't eat a bag of of chips by yourself crisps chips chips so you crack a bag of crisps and then you and then you put it on the table so you all share a bag of crisps like you don't have one individually so then we do that here too yeah all right sorry fucking this shit we're not that big of an asshole we all have to have our own bag of chips I mean it's the extra portion size in it Oh, the English, superior, because they shared chips. Yeah, fair, fair, sorry.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And I'd have half a beer and half lemonade, and I'd have a shandy at 12. And I'd like sink. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to introduce a 12-year-old to the concept of... No, I'm in a pint, yeah. I think that's why... I'm going to paint is a little much. But, like, kids have to understand that there are in this world. two different realities.
Starting point is 01:18:58 There's the one you're born with, and if you're a person who's completely sober your whole life, like our president, never had a drink, okay. But then most people discover at some point through whatever drug, whether it's liquor or whether it's pot, something that, oh, there's a way where my mind is like, kind of like, twist it over to here
Starting point is 01:19:18 with some advantages and maybe some terrible disadvantages, but it's like there are two... You know, it was cool about it. You know, it was cool about my dad. My dad always said, right, drink as much as you want. But, but you're fucking cleaning it up. Well, I wouldn't put this on page one of the parents' guide. No, I...
Starting point is 01:19:39 But you know what? I genuinely think that's why I've never abused any substance. Because I always felt empowered to go there if I wanted. It was never an act of rebellion. Do you know what I mean? I was like, my dad was like, if you want to fucking be it, I mean, I was like, 13. But I was like, if you have a beer, I have a beer.
Starting point is 01:19:58 But if I had five beers, and at 14, I'm like, oh, feel ill. He's like, yeah, it's what it does to you. But why do you think so many rock stars fall victim to drug abuse? You'd think drugs being the thing that people take to get away from reality. It'd be the last thing someone whose reality is so great to begin with would want to do. To me, it's a sense of control of you. your own destiny because even though it makes you feel out of control you're like this is the one thing in the world that I can do that no one can kind of monitor I would say I can go to this place
Starting point is 01:20:43 and I'm going to be on my own trip and no one can change my trip because it's all internal you know why the doors are called the doors no Because there's a book by an Englishman, Aldous Huxley, called The Doors of Perception. Wow. And it's about drugs. Yeah. And it's saying drugs open the doors of perception. And that's why they took that name.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah, I love. One of my favorite Jim Morrison things was like some mad reporter was trying to slate him was like, oh, well, your recent poetry has not been well reviewed, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this shit. and his response was like oh what I just don't think they get it I guess I was like wow but why what I loved that I know I loved that because he was very much like art is such a strange
Starting point is 01:21:37 you know when like someone reviews an album I found that such a crazy concept how the fuck can you review an album I was just saying this to we did Billy Joel you should listen to it you'll love it it's on and I said the exact same thing how the fuck did someone review an album You can't review music.
Starting point is 01:21:55 It's like it hits you or it doesn't. So they review the lyrics, which is a dumb thing because it's music. It's not lyrics. True to someone. The thing about it is, right, like, you take a young artist who comes out of the gate and it's, like, really excited and people love it and blah. And then fucking pitchfocal Rolling Stone give it like a two out of five. How the fuck do you do that? Like, someone has just been like sat in their room and been like, this is what I feel about the world.
Starting point is 01:22:21 This is what I think. Because Rolling Stone wants to tell you what music is important, and I could give a fuck what music is important. Music isn't important. That's why I love it. It's not important. It's pleasurable. Yeah, and it's someone's spirit or someone's opinion of the world.
Starting point is 01:22:44 That's what music is. Music or art in any regard, intellectualized, takes the fun out of it. My vibe is that when you see, some cunt intellectualizing a Picasso or some shit. I bet he woke up, took a shit and painted it and was just like, that's, that looks great. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:02 I don't think it was that deep, being like, what was he going through when he made? It's not. You know what I mean? You're right. And can I tell you when you make songs, you don't really think about it? You just kind of, that's the beauty of writing music, right? It's like, you tap into a word thing that is inexplainable that you shut your eyes,
Starting point is 01:23:22 you open your mouth and some crazy shit comes out that you're subconscious wanting to say. Correct. Without thinking about it. And that's what we are like what us fans, you know, the common people, what we're connecting to certain things. That is one of them.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Because something, when you sense something is... Exactly. Because... Beyond the intellectual, because most of us spend too much time in our own hands. Yeah, because this fucking thing floating above our heads right now, the subconscious is how we connect.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Right. The other thing we connect to, of course, is just raw sexuality. Completely. That's always going to be attractive. Okay. I mean, I agree. And then what we're connecting to, especially women, is that music enunciates what men who are stilted usually emotionally just can't say out loud.
Starting point is 01:24:15 So they hear the singer saying, you are my everything. you know, it's usually bullshit, because they're with groupies on the tour buzz, but they're singing it. They're singing it. It doesn't matter if it's bullshit. You are my, you are once, twice,
Starting point is 01:24:35 three times a lady. Yeah, I mean, I knew it. And tonight I'm with three ladies. But it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. They want to hear it. I agree. Who can blame them? I want to hear it.
Starting point is 01:24:49 No, and that's the vibe. Can I have a piss? Yeah. I am busting for a fucking piss. Now, a piss, you English, I happen to know when you're saying, I'm pissed, it means you're drunk. No, I'm not pissed. I'm joking. Go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Where's a toilet? It's right over there. All right, what about in this man cave? And luckily your pants are always half off. I'm telling you they are. Is it here? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, back the other way. This way, there you go.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Oh, fucking. It's hard to find the door. There you go. Oh, great. What a vibe. Boy's pants are half off. What a fucking vibe, man. What a fucking vibe in him.
Starting point is 01:25:32 I told you. I tell you, that was quite a piss. I heard it from me. Could you hear it? I'm telling you, I was buzzing because I was late, so I didn't get to piss in the car. I said, I bet you this guy hasn't pissed since Japan. Bro. I have about a piss since you're probably about.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I have to say, I was only not in for about an hour. I'm telling you as a man of 70 who's in fine health and I have no complaints. But while you can piss like that, just note it because it will not last for it. Oh, really? You can't piss out. You'll be fine. But, I mean, that's like the old saying, he pissed like a racehorse. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I mean, when you can hear it through a door from 50 feet. away and that is quite a piss yes i've been old and instant that's quite a piss why does it take you a second no i think it's starting to take me dad dad a second okay if you're like if you're in the urinal and you're like standing like side to side like up okay like i go straight away okay well sit down first of all second i just explain me i understand i just i just heard you pissed we're still there you're still there set the fuck down lie me take you a sec lie me I love it. You lie me cunt. I like it. You fucking lie me can't. We're not going to talk about me pissing. It's all good. And it doesn't matter in life.
Starting point is 01:26:59 No, it doesn't matter. But I'm just saying, enjoy the things that I'm telling you, you will not have forever why you have them. Because after you lose them, you'll be like, oh, wow, I wish I, like, I wish I could, I wish I had, like, sort of at the time it was happening, been happy about that. Because I must say, I've gotten pretty good about that, especially I mean, lived here about 25 years. It's a lovely place to live. Yeah, this house is lovely, by the way. I would like to compliment you on that. It was a beautiful vibe. And I really never forget every day how lucky I am to live here because I used to live in shitholes.
Starting point is 01:27:38 So, like, it's good to live in a shithole. It's better if you get to live in a nice ball or bed. But if you do, it's like, yeah, I know. never have a day where I don't think, oh, wow, this is, yeah, jing. On the jing vibe, man, telling you, he's got me hooks on this jing shit. Can I take some of this on a league? I'm going to give you. I love it, man.
Starting point is 01:28:00 We're going to get blackout drunk me and you. Well, you know, the only time I drink really anymore is right here. What killer. But there are people who I enjoy drinking with more and less, and you are one of the ones I really Yeah, I've had a good time. You are, you are, you are meant for club random. You are the, you were born a rock star and you were born a club random guest. I'm into a club random vibe.
Starting point is 01:28:27 I'll just stay here. Just lock me, just fucking timing up. I'm sure you will. I'm telling you, time. Just put another chair up, but me and you will give the guests help. I'm going to have to get a plumber to see what you did to that toilet. Yeah, I'm telling you. Oh, flowing.
Starting point is 01:28:39 I'm sorry. I'm flowing. You probably knocked it off its rafters. It was clear. With that piss. I'm hydrated. How is the flight from Japan? There must be a killer.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Do you know what? Japan is the worst fucking time zone. Why? Because it's like when you're like trying to sleep, it's 4 a.m. London or like 6 p.m. L.A., so it's like right in the middle. But the flight was all right. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I had some ramen and some noodles. Is that what they serve on Japan? Yeah, it's fucking great. Really? So they go with the... The cat of got a wagging steak and shit. I don't really eat on planes. No, but I mean, on Japan Airlines, you get the ramen noodles.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Is that, is what you're saying? I got the ramen noodles. Sushi? No, no, sushi. You're not on a plane, fucking, no. I'm not a sushi. No, I don't like sushi. I don't like sushi as well.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I don't get it. Oh, yeah. I don't like sushi. It's fucking... I think it's weird. Why don't want to eat some meat roll? I just want to always say to the restaurant, you're a restaurant. Could you cook the food?
Starting point is 01:29:42 Yeah, I'm fully like, I'm like, if I go up a sushi, I want... I could do that at home. just buy something out of a package and eat it catch a fish and it's gross and i don't understand why it is so popular no there are people who only want to eat sushi tried it i can't do it i've tried it to be sophisticated you know like i remember coming to l-a the label taught me to nobu right and i went there and i was like you yeah i was like wow because that's like the because i'm from donnie don't castor right i'm just saying for the people who don't know no boo is like one of the top,
Starting point is 01:30:16 top or topest most restaurant. Yeah, I would never, I wouldn't be caught dead there, nor would they invite me. But, like, it's just not my kind of place because it's full of, you know, it's full of cuntz. It's full of cuntz and sushi.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Yeah, I'm telling things I don't like. Right, exactly. I agree with you. And it's not, I'm sure there's some wonderful people there. Robert De Niro owns it and he's a great guy. Oh, does he own it? Yeah, well, he's certainly one of the major. I love Robert DeNine. Why don't know him?
Starting point is 01:30:45 I love Robert De Niro, too, and he's a great guy, but I don't like sushi. I don't like sushi. And he can't help it, that because he's Robert De Niro, it attracts, you know, that kind of snobby type of, which is fine in some settings. I like a good Hollywood party. I feel like it's like a petting. I just rather go to a steakhouse. You ever go to, like, the Oscar party? No, I've never been to the Oscars.
Starting point is 01:31:09 I didn't get invited. Well, you will. I'm telling you're right. coming right up to that moment where they will want you at the Oscar party it's fantastic to stand in a room and everywhere you look there's a star it's fun as long as you don't take it seriously
Starting point is 01:31:25 yeah no I agree but you know I could talk to Harrison Ford or I could you know I could talk to Nicole you know that'd be cool or you know at least I could come up and say hi we're at the same party I agree because when you're at the same party I've had people come to me at parties and say
Starting point is 01:31:39 can I talk to you I'm like you're at a I'm at the same party as you. Yeah, let's talk. If I come to this party voluntarily, you can't, everybody can talk to anybody else. We're a private party. I agree.
Starting point is 01:31:52 I love that vibe. Yes. I love that vibe. But yeah, I don't like sushi. I fucking eat sushi. I do, too. I just don't get the concepts of it. I don't either.
Starting point is 01:32:03 It's not cooked. I'm trying to be polite. Honestly, I remember. And it's full of mercury. Yeah, they took me to a fucking null at when I first came. And I'm like, wow. We're really going to make it. And I was like eating this shit.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I wish you would have taken me to in and out. But given that scouse accident you have, I would guess you like fish and chips. I love fishing chips. Of course you do. Do you like fishing chips? No, of course not. I'm not English.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Well, yeah, I haven't been to the right fish and chip shop, then. I'm never going to like it. You are, I'm telling you. If I take you to my fishing chip shop in Doncaster, Ruffwell's, I'm telling you, you're going to be like, wow. Okay, I'm going to tell you why. Thank you, promise. I'm telling you, I'll take you to my fucking chip chip shop.
Starting point is 01:32:42 I will never like it. Go on, then. Okay. You like fish. There was a talk show in this country, a guy named Merv Griffin. Never heard of him. I'm sure you haven't. It was a sweet man, very, you know, he was a, he might have chased him a boy or two around a hotel room.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Not for that. You know, but a lovely man. I did his show many times. And he had a sidekick named Arthur Treacher, who was English. He played the English butler. in a lot of old movies. They used him as like a second banana on American TV. And he opened, he was popular enough,
Starting point is 01:33:19 he was opened a string of fast food places with English food called Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips. And when I was in college, I worked there, throwing pieces of fish batter into a vat of grease, which would bounce back and burn my arms. I will never have fish and chips. All right, fat.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Fuck. All right, but I'll bring it to your house. I'll bring a chip butty next time. The problem is here, doesn't it? The fishing chips is in America, Indian food and fishing chips is dog shit. I love Indian food. I love Indian food. Love it.
Starting point is 01:33:55 It never really agrees with me, but it's, I don't know what, there's maybe a lot of oil. You're in London a lot? I'm not in London a lot, but I've been there five times. I'm going to get your number. Next time you're number, I'm going to blow your mind. I may not be able to ever make it to London. Why? I just don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:12 If I ever want to leave the country again, I never sleep, speaking of sleep, when I go overseas. I don't, and if you don't sleep, you just don't feel right. I just can't sleep. I'm trying to, you know when, like, when something's happening and like, I can't fucking sleep. I'm like, it's in bed like, it's crazy. Well, you have to learn to clear your mind. I know it's very difficult. I know that's easy to say that, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:34:42 Interesting. Wow. You rock stars. Rock and roll, man. A real cunt. Yeah, we are. I mean, yeah. Can I have some of your blood?
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah, go on then. Nurse. I mean, Keith Richards used to do it. What's the big deal about swapping? Yeah, a bit of a fucking transfusion, man. I heard about that. Keith Rich is on it. Like, there was two.
Starting point is 01:35:12 in school, Keith Richards used to blood transfuse every month because of his heroin addiction. And then Marilyn Manson took out two of his ribs to suck his own dick. Yeah. The second one, I've heard them both. The second one I know is bullshit because I know Brian. Yeah. I love calling him Brian whenever I see him. Is his name Brian?
Starting point is 01:35:33 Yes, of course it is. I don't know his name was Brian. And he's Brian. He's a kid from Ohio with a good Halloween costume and some good songs. I mean, I like several. That was rough for me because he was so integral to. Oh, yeah? At me as a kid.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And then when I learned that shit, it really fucked. Yeah, the dope show. Yeah, all that really fucked with me because it's so strange when you hit, when someone you idolize, shit comes out about them and you're like, no, superstar album is great. The Dope Show. I mean, he had some great songs. He had some hit. He had a hot band.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Twiggy, the guitarist. John 5 as well. Yeah, that was not just, it was not just the Halloween costume. It was, I mean. That was serious shit. Yeah. That really changed me as an individual. I remember.
Starting point is 01:36:23 I remember watching an MTV show, and someone said to him, and this is why it was so fucking hard for me when all that shit came out. And I was like, fuck you, motherfucker. Because it was like, I remember him saying, someone asked him, like what would you say to the kids and and i mean when you're like 14 years old i he was like i wouldn't say anything i'd listen and i remember being 14 years old and be like wow yeah honestly it was so sick to see yeah because i looked exactly like him i was like in i was like in a god i was in a slayer and fucking whatever i was like you don't look like him which is good i mean
Starting point is 01:37:06 i like brian like i said if he did these things i can't quite go there but brine Brian was not a great-looking guy. You're different. I mean, you're a gypsy. You've got a look. You've got an Elvis look. He had a cadaver look. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:22 He looked like Biden. You know, he was, and that was the look. I mean, that was the gig. That was the schick. But he made the most of what he had because he wasn't really, you know, a great-looking guy. He was just Brian from Ohio.
Starting point is 01:37:39 I didn't know his name was Brian. That's so funny. something tonight that's crazy oh yeah well like i always say every rapper sounds like a terribly hard gangster until you find out their real name can i tell you what i want to hang out of you after this podcast i like i love this shit i want to sit in this place it's a good vibe i'm going out to dinner after this come with me i'm talking rehearsal but i would love that sure no but my vibe is like i fucking love this shit i'm gonna get your number after this we're gonna do this like every week well I'm not going to leave.
Starting point is 01:38:12 You're like, motherfucker, can you leave? I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm not looking to leave. I love doing that. I love this. This is such a good vibe. First, you know, it's like, bottle of vodka and my jing and shit. Oh, you got the, when you got the jing.
Starting point is 01:38:25 No, but it's like, you know, because this is the one time I allow myself to get fucked up, like, I'm looking forward to it no matter who's here. I've got a rehearsal after this. I'm going to be in rehearsal. All right, man, take it from the fuck. fucking song. Tonight you have a rehearsal? I've got to do a fucking show.
Starting point is 01:38:43 What time is the rehearsal? Well, I don't know. I mean, I don't really need to go on rehearses. I know everything, but I should go because it's like morale vibe. The thing about rehearses, it's funny. You know when you write the songs? I would blow that off with that was the reason. You know what?
Starting point is 01:38:57 Every one of these I have, the more I'm going to blow out. Well, first of all... I'd rather got a dinner with you, to be honest. First of all, you know, bands are not a democracy. I mean, your band isn't even cold. Youngblood. and the receivers. No, not.
Starting point is 01:39:12 It's just young. Okay. So like, you sound like you respect them a lot. I love them all. You get on their bus sometimes. Okay. You can't pay a higher respect than that.
Starting point is 01:39:25 But like, you're the one who has to, like, you know, conserve or reserve your energy in the way you best see fit. And, like, showing up at, like, of performatory rehearsals that don't make you better maybe diminish you because you are right
Starting point is 01:39:46 you know the thing about it's what you know when you write the songs you know the songs you do yeah and the band does yeah because the thing about it is when when you fucking write it it's so weird if i've got to learn a cover i've got to rehearse it if i've got to write it's got to play a song that i wrote you don't go reaurs it because it came out of you it's so weird that because weirdly if I write a song the day before I know the lyrics the next day like by heart I'm the same way with jokes
Starting point is 01:40:16 yeah because it comes out of your head I remember jokes that were written for me in the 90s it's just where the it's just what sticks in my mind because that's who I am exactly because when you write something at your brain
Starting point is 01:40:29 it's already in your muscles I think already in your blood flow so like I find rehearsals funny because I'm like why I know it inside out and back to front yeah well I've got to go to fucking Van Nuys right now
Starting point is 01:40:44 play a song we'll play on TV tomorrow that played on tour you don't I don't I'm gonna go a dinner with you no I'm not saying that for that reason I'm just saying what you're gonna eat I don't know we'll talk about it after
Starting point is 01:40:59 I love it sorry fair not sushi though no definitely definitely will not be sushi and it will not be sushi and it won't be far it'll be great It'll be awesome.
Starting point is 01:41:09 I eat right, and you will too. But, like, I'm not saying it for that reason. I'm saying because, yeah, you don't want to leave it on the practice field, as we say in America. You don't want to leave it on the practice field. I agree. Like Tom Brady, you know, he doesn't do the weight when he was still playing and the best one in the game. You know, he didn't, like, overdo it. He would get 12 hours of sleep the night before the game.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Like, you don't have to, mentally, you have to overdo it. Yeah. But physically, you don't need the rehearsal. You know. Do you know, the thing, what's strange is, being too rehearsed takes the fun out of it. Yes. Because you want, I love going on stage, me like, what the fuck's about to happen. That's the fun bit.
Starting point is 01:42:01 If I fucking go on stage. And the audience senses that. Exactly. And that's the vibe. It's like, when it's to rehearse, the audience is like, The amount of shows I see, I'm like, like the screen and shit, like the screens and the rehearsing and the fucking,
Starting point is 01:42:16 my vibe is like, that's why I love Iggy and that's why I love Bowie and that's why I love Jagger. It's like, that motherfucker is just gonna like... But what do you think of concerts today? Like, I have not... I hate screens. They bore me. They all have screens, right? I'm like, I...
Starting point is 01:42:32 And everybody's watching through their phone. Yeah, there's no... Is that right? There's nothing fun about, like... Here's what I know, because I haven't been in a while, but somebody, we wouldn't say who, like, said, you have got to, please watch the Taylor Swift. It was on, I think, Disney or Apple, or she sold it to somebody. She's a brilliant businesswoman. It's her tour.
Starting point is 01:42:59 You know, it's the show she just did. The reputation documentary. Yes. Yeah, that one. It's just what, it's the tour she just did. Yeah, yeah. This is the era's tour. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:07 It's everything. It's, you know, it goes on forever. I mean, if you're a fan, it goes to... I actually fucking love Taylor Swift. It's weird. I love Taylor Swift. I just saw her doing the Travis Kelsey podcast, and I just thought, everything I don't know about her, I like her better. She seemed genuine, funny, cool to hang out with, which I never thought she wasn't.
Starting point is 01:43:33 I just don't get the music. And I never will. Do you know what, is that fucking, that doesn't matter. That Romeo, sing, that first album and read, my sisters loved that. So, when I, any time that comes on, it takes me back to a time, and I was in my mum's car, and my sisters, and I actually fucking love it. Okay, yeah, I, I, do you know, no, no, no, but can I tell you one thing, lads in the pub are like, ne, me, me, me, me, me, Taylor Swift, I don't fuck with it.
Starting point is 01:44:04 I like fucking Taylor Swift, Good. I'm glad. I'm happy. Honestly. I don't dislike Taylor Swift. I'm just saying, I'm making a bigger point. Because she's so big, you know, she's the one to make it about it. Like, you don't have to like, and then everybody has to like everything. The silliest thing people do is when they go, listen to this, you'll love it. I'm like, maybe I won't. Yeah, maybe I won't. And if I don't, don't argue with me. Or just be like, listen to you, let me know what you think. Don't argue. Well, that's a little more open. My wife was like, I think it's shit. You don't like this? You don't like that song? No, I don't. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:44:42 So what? When I'm like, yo, what do you think to this? And I was like, it's shit. I'm like, what? Really? Why? If I love something and you think it's shit, I think that's fascinating. Because that makes me go like, this hits me in my fucking balls and my heart.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Why do you think it's shit? I love that vibe. There are songs that I can recognize as really good the way there are women. I could recognize as really pretty, who I personally am not attracted to it all. But I get it. I get it. You're pretty. Not my type.
Starting point is 01:45:14 I get it. This song is good. Not my type. And that's okay. I love that. That's the fucking point. That's why the world's fucked right now. But anyway, so this is as much as I know about concerts lately is watching the Taylor Swift,
Starting point is 01:45:28 endless documentary. Yeah, a documentary. And like every song, every kid in there is watching through their phones. I mean, when they pan to the audience, it's just phones. It's like they can't perceive this thing that's going on except through this other thing. I found that disturbing. My vibe is this.
Starting point is 01:45:50 I think when people... Is that what your shows look like? So, yes. So what happens is? Yes. I think when you walk out, I think it's just a modern thing in it. It is. Because what happens is when they leave the gig, they want to show.
Starting point is 01:46:04 show their mom, dad, friends, whatever. Look what I did. But I always say, I'm like, do what you fucking want because you're at the show, experience it how the fuck you want to experience it, right? My vibe is this. At least one song at the gig, I say, put your phones down and be in the moment.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Because when I watch that Woodstock 99 or Oasis in the 90s, when you're there, ugly. The crowds, though, the crowds are fucking vibes. because the hard thing about it is it's like when you're trying to get a crowd going and on the phone it's one step removed because you're like I'm watching you for a screen as opposed to right motherfuckers jump but I say if I say yo jump to your human self like oh my god I should jump when you when you're looking it through a screen you may as well be on
Starting point is 01:47:01 Instagram. Would you ever consider going out and doing your first number, okay, they're all getting it on the screen, and then saying, hey, you all got it. No, I do that. I do that. For once, what, two songs are like, yo, put it down now. Let's do it. Good for you. Two songs. Do what you, I mean, because I don't want to do like to put your phones in a bag thing. So it's like weird. I'm like, do what you fucking want. Like, you're here, do what you want. I agree with that. You know what I mean? If you want to film, if you want to fucking. Right. You know what? You know what? You want to have a beer or whatever. You can't dictate to people.
Starting point is 01:47:34 No, you can't because that's fucking weird. That's shitty. That's shitty. But it is. But I'm like, for once, I'm like, put it down, if you like it, just fucking be here. But it is cool that sometimes, you know, like, the vibe is like, it's almost what's cool as a person from stage. You see the people and you see the phone. So what's kind of cool about seeing the phone and the people is it looks like there's so much shit.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Like, it's like overstimulation for me. I'm like, whoa, what the fuck. You're going to write a song about that. I know. About how the kids would be so much happier. They kind of know it themselves. Yeah, they do. They do.
Starting point is 01:48:11 They know it, and yet they can't give it up. They know that it's fucking them up. They're not unaware of it. And yet I've talked to them up. Like, I know. You kids spend too much, I know. I got to do, like, sometimes, like, for example, because I'm not sleeping in a minute.
Starting point is 01:48:29 I've got to turn me phone. off like if I'm on Instagram I'm like and I'm like awake I took I delete my app at night and then I put it in the fucking bathroom and then I go go go a bed yeah if I'm if I'm in bed and the phone's next to me I'll be like picking it up if I can't sleep I'm like what time is it I would rather just not fucking know I'm like wait for the son will come up there's a lot of kids who you know, make fun of people like me because they can do so many things
Starting point is 01:49:05 on the phone that I can't do. There's one thing I can do on the phone they can't do. Turn it off. Yeah. I literally have seen them, people in audiences. I've said, you know, they told you can't,
Starting point is 01:49:19 and they're still taking pictures at a show and I'll say, just turn your phone off. And they're like, they don't know how. They've never done it. That's the one function on the phone that they can't figure out.
Starting point is 01:49:31 out that's saying something it's so weird phones are like because i'm a fucking addicted to it but recently more than ever i'm trying just like shut it off put it in my fucking draw and be like let me go fucking talk to a tree or some shit well you don't have to you're like all right man you don't need a tree you're surrounded by people i don't fucking know but like i want to like go touch the fucking bark or some shit like the next bus you don't need a tree you don't need a tree There's a whole bus people, a bus of... I love to, but I'm mental, mate, because people think I'm crazy
Starting point is 01:50:06 because I just talk to random fuckers. I'm like, how are you doing? And I was like, what the fuck? Like, if I'm in New York and I ride the subway, I'm like, hello? Like, hey, what the fuck you're talking to me for? I'm like, oh, shit. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Do you ever, like, tell the driver pull over, because I'm lonely on my bus and I want to go on the other bus? Oh, all the time? Oh, really? Like, right on the side of the right? The best thing about it is, because I'm obviously, like, Bus One. I'm like, Air Force One, like, the leader.
Starting point is 01:50:37 I'm like, right, we're partying now, pull over. So Air Force One pulls over. But you never have them on your bus. Nah, they come on my bus sometimes. Oh, really? Yeah. But then you've got to get rid of them. Yeah, I don't give a fuck, because I'm like, right, fuck off now.
Starting point is 01:50:52 It's tough when you're going 70. I'm like, right, fuck off now. I'm going off for the next door. What if they have to take a shit? Well, yeah, I can't shit No one can't shit in the toilet, bro. You get fine, $250. Really?
Starting point is 01:51:05 Every shit. So if you really want to shit, you can shit, but it's $250. So is it worth it? I mean, it's not going to affect me at any point in my life because I would never get on a thing like that. But I did travel on a tour bus once when I was opening for Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons. You opened for him?
Starting point is 01:51:25 Yes, as a comedian. What? For one night, I was on a tour. bus, yeah. I slept on a hammock, like those hammocks that they have. I did not sleep, of course. It was just terrible. And I can't imagine living there. And the poor crew, who was on the same bus, you know, I guess they slept on that bus. If they didn't, they were fucked because as soon as we got to the next gig, they went up, they didn't go to a hotel like I did. They got out there and started building the stage. I love a fucking tour bus. Yeah. That's a hard way to make a living. Honestly, I love a tour. Not for you, but I mean, like, with that crew? The thing for me is...
Starting point is 01:52:03 I guess they love it, though. I just, I think they do. They're just like, the best thing about a crew is, it's the same shit that, like, we're like pirates, with gypsies. I fucking love it, and they love it. Because you obviously, you choose it. If you're a crew, you choose it. I really mean that.
Starting point is 01:52:21 I genuinely, I don't, I think when you're in a rock band and you're in a crew, they work so many hours they work 13 hours like 13 14 15 hours a day right on a tour bus not seeing your family been on the road it's a job I mean you might be you may be right
Starting point is 01:52:41 but my crew they love it they fucking love it I know they get they get off and they're pissed all the time and they love it well they tell you they love I don't know I know I think you're right I think they do I genuinely fucking yeah I think they do Because it's not real.
Starting point is 01:52:57 It's no reality. It's a magical existence. Yes. I mean, it's sort of a similar job to working on an oil rig. Oh, you join the circus. What? You join a circus. One way he jumps on a train.
Starting point is 01:53:12 I mean, I don't know how many circuses are still like stopped. No, but it's a modern day circus. You've run away. There's no reality. You've fucking, there's no time zone. There's no time limit. this you turn up there was always this
Starting point is 01:53:27 I don't know rumor about roadies that they got a lot of sex because they would vet the groupies before like you'd have to like fuck the Peter Grant Led Zeppelin
Starting point is 01:53:42 is that trick is that true not nowadays no oh you think but back in the day 100% Peter Grant blowjo's a backstage t-shirt So you'd have to, like, blow the roadie to get to the rocks? I don't fucking know, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I've seen it in the movies. Yeah. Not now, though. I don't think... I mean, Led Zeppelin did some... Crazy shit. I mean, I don't know these... Jimmy Page lived off a fucking U.S. tour on Banana Dacqueries.
Starting point is 01:54:14 He did what? Apparently he lived. The only thing he drank or ate was banana dachries on the U.S. tour. Well, banana is loaded. potassium so i mean he probably was in the peak i might do that so it looks so good no i mean they apparently had sex with a groupie with a fish i mean you know like they were just i heard that in seattle i've stayed in the hotel room that they did that apparently yeah that's what that's talking that's what i said i mean even if it's not true sick it's just great for fun
Starting point is 01:54:44 i'm sleeping this room like whoa i mean that's one of my favorites yeah i'm telling you Are you a Led Zeppelin fan? I love Zefflin, man. Yeah. Top five drummers. Bonham, Bill Ward, Ringo, Keith Moon, Dave Grohl. That was the second one? Bill Ward.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Bill Ward, Sabbath. Sabbath. Crazy. Yeah. I saw that tribute you did. That was very moving. Oh, that was mental. I mean, that was a great moment.
Starting point is 01:55:22 I love him It's weird man It's been so... I think that's also why I can't sleep as well The past couple weeks been so weird Because you were that connected to Ozzy Osbourne I loved Ozzy Osbourne my whole life From two years old
Starting point is 01:55:39 Before I even knew who he was He was a caricature In the TV show you watched that I watched that every night I have done before I knew him You know when you put a TV show on that you can just, like, sleep to or disconnect to. It's such a weird, weird couple of weeks
Starting point is 01:55:58 because you know someone your whole life or you think you do, and then you get to know them. So you got to know him. I got to know him towards the end. And? We were just getting to know each other. What did you think of him? I mean, was he...
Starting point is 01:56:15 Because when you meet your idols, they can sometimes disappoint you Or sometimes they can make you... I loved him. Like my family... He was cool. He was just... Oh, he is?
Starting point is 01:56:29 Yeah, everything I ever wanted to be. He was crazy and individual and wild and mad and unpredictable. Like I have been my whole life. And he was accepted by the whole world and loved by the whole world for his sense of self and fucking fucking mentality and that
Starting point is 01:56:53 performance was so wild was because it was the first time in my life when you look at a stadium of 30,000 people you perform to them I could actually like
Starting point is 01:57:09 zone in to one person and be like, yo I'm going to sing this for you because of everything you did I've never felt like that for anybody else And it was wild how the world received it. It was fucking mental how.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Well, he died so soon after. Like, how soon after? Two weeks. Two weeks. So it was kind of nice that he got the tribute before he died because usually people get the tribute after they died. And then they're not there for it. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Yeah. I was in the Bahamas. I was writing. I was in a studio in the Bahamas. and my phone had 50 miscalls on it because I was in the middle of a fucking island so I was like, your phone just fucked in it? I was like, I genuinely thought my mum had died off
Starting point is 01:58:00 fucking someone had... And I had fucking found out of the news and I was like, after that and after I met him at the concert, I've met him before but we had such a moment at the gig in Birmingham we had such a beautiful 20 minutes like just like this just like kicking it talking like and then he was like I'm nervous
Starting point is 01:58:25 what like you're only like with your hero and you're like I'm nervous so obviously like he's kind of obviously it was the farewell concert to Sabbath and his last performance on stage and when you see someone he's that big to me he's like fucking massive I can't even stretch my arm like
Starting point is 01:58:47 he's Ozzy he's like I look to him and when you see him as a human you're kind of like hold his hand and you're with him and he just like we were talking shit
Starting point is 01:58:58 and he was just like go break America next and you said that he's like go get America next and you have this feel to his spirit passing yeah you have this fucking moment
Starting point is 01:59:10 and this spirit and this person you've known your whole life and then you know them as a human being who lives, breathes, spits, shits, fucks, drinks, whatever. And then he leaves. It is interesting that he
Starting point is 01:59:27 died so soon after announcing a last concert. It's almost like he knew he was going to die into... Can I tell you one thing? It was just a crazy shit because I, when I saw him, In my head, I was, like, fantasizing, like, oh, my God, like, we're getting to know each other.
Starting point is 01:59:46 I can't wait to go. I can't wait to go off Sunday dinner with you. I can't wait to go up, like, I can't wait to, like, walk around a garden with you or, like, have a cup of tea with you. We're getting to know each other. I can't wait to, like, watch a film with you. Or, I genuinely didn't think he would go so soon. And the craziest thing about it was knowing his family, they didn't.
Starting point is 02:00:12 either and jack and kelly are just the most fucking crazy beautiful people ever they didn't either well it's wild it's wild i've learned this not just from my parents but from my dogs death happens slowly and then quickly yeah no no it's slow slow slow and then it It's a moment where it's fast. And, yeah, I agree. And I think, as we know, like legends and icons often know the things we don't. The last time I saw him, when I was in that dressing room, and it was the night before the gig. And I said, I was like, yo, I love you, man.
Starting point is 02:01:07 and it was so genuine to be able to spend 20 minutes with him and just kick it and just like hang out of him like he was like your fucking granddad or something and he was just like so with it and so funny
Starting point is 02:01:25 and so excited and nervous for his gig the next day in the same way that I am for tomorrow you know what I mean? It's fucking beautiful. It's beautiful. genuine you are feeling about that and i know you'll forgive me when i say i i totally recognize that
Starting point is 02:01:44 and i also still feel much worse about chika yeah it's you fucking but it's cool it's your family and it's your family and it's just like you just like what like and it makes you question everything like what the fuck like it's it's so weird the way the universe acts and the way the universe behaves Life is brutal. Death is brutal. And it just is weird. It's just fucking weird. And that is as real. And I want to make this experience as real as I can make it. Because otherwise it's going to, I can't, it's cathartic. And you have to like confront it like that way. That's the, that's the, until we figure out death, maybe AI will be doing that soon. That's where we are. Somebody's going to shovel dirt on your. face. Yeah, fucking weird, ma'am. Or are they going to burn you? I don't want to be burned. You want to be buried or burned? Fuck that. I don't want to be a fucking jar. Fuck that. Put me in the ground with a worms. See, I don't want to be eating my worms. I think that's worse. No, I'm down. I'm down because I'll become a tree or some shit. You want to be burned and be in a
Starting point is 02:03:00 fucking jar? You will not become a tree. I might become a plant. know some shit well you will yeah I see your point yeah my vibe is I don't want to be like in me fucking grandson's fucking fireplace next to a yeah fucking fucking picture my father was we cremated him and then a year after he was cremated my sister my granddad was cremated as well yeah which I tried to do the Keith Richards and snort a line of him at a funeral no you did yeah I did I mean, my auntie was freaking out. What's the most rock star thing you ever did? That's such a crazy question to ask me.
Starting point is 02:03:42 Well, you just said you were going to snort a lot. That's like, it's the... Well, yeah, I tried to snort a line of my grandfather. Yeah, that was pretty pretty sick. But me auntie wouldn't allow it. That's the most rock star thing you ever did? I mean, you imagine I've done it. I can't.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Yeah, you fucking can't. Yeah, you don't fucking, don't cop out. I have done everything you've imagined. Really? Except heroin. No heroin. Me neither. No heroin.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Tonight's the night. All right. Come on, my mom. Come on. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know if you're going to rehearsal or dinner. Either way.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing yet. Okay, well, you let me know. I'm flying. You're flying. What a fucking bye, man. That was fun. That was so fun, man. I love you.
Starting point is 02:04:34 I was so. Yes, yes.

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