Club Random with Bill Maher - Ziggy Marley | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

Ziggy Marley stops by Club Random to talk to Bill Maher about his new album, Brightside. The conversation drifts—from music and life in Jamaica to Rastafarian beliefs, sacred herb, and why Ziggy keeps his cannabis use private and spiritual, not commercial. Along the way, they get into food, health, and a shared distrust of what we consume. Ziggy reflects on growing up as Bob Marley’s son, navigating identity, and learning to set boundaries after watching a life that was open to everyone. They touch on cross-cultural relationships, religion, and the idea that most labels don’t hold up under real human connection. Check out Brightside when it drops April 18—and catch him on tour. Support our Advertisers: -Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/RANDOM #rulapod #ad -Get 15% off OneSkin with the code RANDOM at https://www.oneskin.co/RANDOM #oneskinpod #ad Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: [e-mail] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Right. Right. Yeah, I can see that. Like he's one of, let Barra. There's no Barrabas personally. Because he robbed them. Club random. How are you?

Yes, man. You look exactly the same, the last time I saw you. You haven't aged today. No, you, Jay. Really? Do you remember that? Like, you're on real times? Yeah, remember.

Oh my gosh. That's fun. And I remember I was always so surprised you seem so exotic and you live close. Yeah. Everybody lives in LA. Yeah, yeah. We're here. How long have you been here? Well, 20 years now. 20 years. Yeah, I met my wife. Well, you grew up in Jamaica. Yeah, grew up in Jamaica. How old were you when you left? Like 30, 30 years. Oh, you were grown. Yeah, we grew up, yeah. We grew up on. I don't know if you smoke. No, I'm right right now. Not right now? No, I'm right right now.

Oh. I thought you'd be smoking as I walked in. Now, why is that? You're not a big smoker? No, it's a very private thing for me, you know? Private? Spiritual. It's a very...

I take that as a... No, just a... Check what I say, now. Like... Yeah, certain parts of my life is not for everyone in the Fissé, you know? And that, you know what I mean? So, I don't know. I've been that way since I was younger.

It's like how I grew up with herb. Now, this is because it's more of a sacred sacrament, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be like me taking communion. Yeah, like, hey, let's have communion. I mean, if I was still a Catholic, I did as a child. Yeah, I mean, not to that level, but I just, yeah. I see.

But it won't offend you if I. No, man, me love it, man. Me take the contact. What does that mean? What does that mean? I thought you were speaking a different letter, well, no, that's a... It means blessings upon you and your yak.

No, well, thank you. Good old Patwa. Jamaica, is that. A contact, okay. Sometimes I try to talk, like, you know, so, you can understand, but... But do you smoke every day? No, no, sometimes. Not even every day.

No, no. Who are you? Who's under that hat? No, man, I'm not smoke every day. When the feeling take us. I'm similar. I don't smoke every day. And the thing with me is I can take weeks off or months off. It's not something that I need, you know?

I don't like do anything that I need to do, like one and need it. And I don't want to get like that at a time. I mean, so much of your music, which I told you when you're on, I'm really a fan of. I mean, I feel like you synthesize reggae into something that, that for me who grew up on pop is like the perfect blend of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, but a lot, you know, a lot of the lyrics about you do not like politicians.

Yeah, politicians. And it must bug you that pot, especially in America now, is so political. I mean, it's, because it's legal. So the states are involved, they're getting lots of taxes from it. Right, right, right. Does this bug you? No, I really, no, we're like the fact that, you know, when I'm, when I'm, I'm, We used to have a hide, and I used to get searched a lot,

you know, coming through customs or whatever because of that. But I like that freedom side of it. But what really, what I'm concerned about is the over-commercialization of it. And then, because, you know, just like the food we eat. The herb we smoke, one, feed me as natural as possible. You know what I mean? Because we don't want to put shit in our body. Dude, I grow it right here.

Yeah, there you go. You're sitting yards from where the plant is. Pick some more. Allegedly. No. I kid, officer. No, it's legal now. You can have a plant.

Yeah. It's not like I have a whole fucking farm out there, but, you know, that's the only way you can guarantee what you're getting. What you get in. I don't trust them. No, no, yeah, no. That's real. That's a good thing. I don't trust restaurants.

Yeah. You know, you know what I do before I go out to dinner? Yeah. I eat at home. Me too. Come on. Really? I met the only other person.

No, what? It's like, I like the atmosphere of a restaurant. and sitting with people. But I don't trust your food. I don't want to go to your hungry. Right. Right. Yeah.

And I don't trust what you're doing back there. Because I know what your game is. You want me to come back to the restaurant. How do you do that? You make something that's so fucking delicious. Right? And it is. Restaurant food is delicious.

Yeah. Although it's not even really a lot, the kind of food I like. I like comfort food, diner food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like I will I basically have dinner and then go out to dinner Yeah man, right, that's the best. And then just order like a salad.

I did that sometime when I'm going to people's house. Like even for dinner sometime. I like to eat, I don't know what, you know, whatever you guys are cooking for dinner or whatever, that's fine, but let me go out and you say that I'm not hungry. Not that we don't trust you, but we don't trust you. I mean, that's it. I really, I mean, it's so hard to keep toxins

of all kinds out of your body. And then, you know, we travel a lot, and then I don't know, like, this is just true. Like, the food here has a different reaction than the food in Europe or in New Zealand where I've had food. You know, we travel and we eat. The food here, there's something,

there's something off about it here in terms of when I eat it, how my digestive system process it. You know what I mean? You say your reaction to it. Yeah, it's like you can't feel like, you can't feel it, you know? So, yeah, the quality, the quality, you know, we have put quality in our system.

It's just expression now, this age and stuff. Yeah, the Rolling Stones wrote about that. Remember jumping jack flash? Yeah. It's a gas, gas, gas. That's all that was. Gas, gas, gas. Yeah, no, I hear you.

Yeah, man, no. Sometimes I get home, if I have eaten in a restaurant, and there will be like, oh gosh, I can't to sleep well they probably put sugar of caffeine in some fucking thing that I didn't think they would or you know they just I just I don't trust so you know you know you know no way that you trust you don't like a spot that you trust I trust them I you know what I trust them to do is to treat me well I mean like I love my restaurants here at LA I mean and and the atmosphere and they just do

everything it's just elegant you feel like oh I'm a grown up yeah yeah who grew up and got successful enough to eat at this fucking place. And it feels good. Yeah, yeah. But I don't trust your food. No, I just don't. It's just not what you're in the business of doing. It's not a health, if you want health food, you know, go cash a bond and buy your

weekly bread at fucking air one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you, I get you, I get you. That's true. I mean, there's, no, I'm assuming you're a, you have a lot of kids, right? you live in a traditional household. Does your wife do the cooking? Well, you know, she started cooking. The first time, I, she wasn't doing the cooking.

But then you- She couldn't cook. But then you- You know, when COVID happened, that's when she started doing the cooking. When what? COVID. We all went home and she does,

people, I guess she had to find something to do, you know. But she really, she's gotten really good at it. Wow. Yeah, she's been, so she's doing another cooking. Now I cooked, too. But she does. And what are the traditional dishes we would find in the Marley House?

No, Marley House. Well, you know, well, I'm telling you what we cook, we cook some fry planting, green planting. Fried green planting. Where you get that? We just buy it anywhere in the supermarket. Really? You buy it green.

I've never seen it in the aisle. You never see green planting. Green planting. Yeah. And we've fried, you ever had green planting? No. No. I mean, we're not saying plankton, are we? No, not plantain. Plantane.

Plantain. Oh, plantain. Yeah, plantain. Plantane, yes. I think I have seen it. What does it look like? A banana? It looks like a big banana. Look like a big banana. I've seen the big banana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't eat it ripe or you can eat it green.

Oh. So I do that, you know, I do, I use it also and make porridge with it, plantin porridge. Porage. Not a word you hear a lot. My wife, no, my wife, she's Jewish, so she make Hala. Jewish? Yes, she has born like an Israel, Israel woman. Isn't that wonderful?

So she makes Hala and she cook, you know, the Shabbat dinner and things like that. Right. Yeah, we enjoy it. She makes holla when you when you holla. It's great the way the cultures can melt like that. Yes, my, yes, man. I mean, I did not know that. Married to a Jamaican and a Jewish wife.

Yeah, Israel. And it works because people are just people, right? Yeah, I mean, it works. I mean, work, I mean, when, I mean, what I say is like, love work, if you love, if you have that real love it, love work. You know, and you still have a work at it too. And then, I mean, it wasn't always kosher with the family. To use a technical term that actually apply.

Yeah, but eventually, them still love, and the love can't car that, that, that, that, that, that stereotypical thing that they see how they want. Absolutely. You know, when they still love, I'm like, oh, this is all right, yeah. The question is, can you make kosher plantain? Yeah, man, plantin kosher, man, yeah, fine. You can? Yeah, man, kosher. You can make anything kosher.

Yeah, plant, vegetable kosher, man, vegetables. I think I would... Right, you can make anything kosher, because it's a complete bullshit anyway. It's just some guy who's saying, you know, it's the rabbi you bless you. You know, I mean, it's not like they're doing it. They're actually putting, you know, caffeine in it or something. No, I think them have certain traditions of how they slaughter the animal and stuff. It's like, it's an ancient tradition.

Yes. Because, I mean, in commercial farming, it's like brute them just slaughter the animal, all that fear, all that blood, you know, that stuff affects what you're eating. Correct. So it's like, how you'll slaughter the animal that you're going to eat. is also significant. So I think that's where that comes from, like how you do the slaughter and, you know? Right, I think it's better if the animal doesn't see it coming.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not good for the animal either way, let's be honest, but animals do kill each other. It's not like they're blameless. But I feel like animals are smarter than we think, and they know when they're like in the slaughterhouse, and then they're on the line. And I think that sort of anxiety,

does affect the chemistry of the creature that then you are eating. So it's not just, you know, this is not hippie bullshit. No, no, it's true. It's true. It's science, natural. Right. It's natural. You know, so you ever kill an animal?

Have you killed? I have not killed an animal. So when you grew up, you grew up on like a semi-farm. So we used to kill. I fished. You fished. That's killing an animal. Yes, when I was, you're right.

right. When I was eight or nine years old, we went out at the shore on the boat and I was very thrilled and you caught Ling was the fish. And it was not even a good fish. Maybe we found a way to use them, but I think it was just because it was amusement. It was something that you did as sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is horrible. Yeah, yeah. And I killed butterflies. No, that's wicked. I was fine. Come on. You can't, I mean, I don't want to be home. That's wicked. I don't want to be held responsible for what I did when I was 20,

let alone five or 40. You just get, you're curious. I just, it was, I don't know. I didn't think, I was too young to think about it. It was just a sport, again, like I had a, they gave me a butterfly net, and I would go out. And, you know, there was, of course. It's in our nature to kill, to be curious.

It's in our nature to kill, and it was also, it's in my nature to collect. Oh. I'm a collector, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I would get them in that, this is so horrible. It was a thing, and they called it the killing jar. Because you would, you want to kill it in pristine form.

Right. Because then my father mounted them, you know, you'd put it in this, we had them on the wall, you know, in glass case. You think I've seen that. It was because they're pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was just barbaric. So you catch them on killing and you put them in a glass case. Yes, the killing jar.

and then it was formaldo. You're serious? Of course, it was the killing jar. I mean, the fact that they left it with a five-year-old to do is hysterical because I could have been like, yeah, what's in this jar? And been like for the rest of my life. I mean, but people would like that back in then. They weren't that careful with the kids.

And so I have killed things, and I'm sure I will pay. Yeah, man, you know, but at least you know what it is like. Because, like, for us, we used to kill. We used to have chicken. we have to kill the chicken, and then we eat the chicken in the evening when we're going to plant Jamaica. You know what I mean? That's how you kill. You know what the chicken? You eat it. It's a part of the... Again, this is why we don't have to feel too guilty about it, because if you've ever watched a nature show, you just see the animals in the wild. The hyenas are lovingly drinking by the river, and then the lion comes and just rips him to fucking pieces.

And it's, you know, even like if my dog got out, the coyotes, the coyotes, which are almost cousin, definitely cousins to the dogs, there would be no professional courtesy. There would be no, you know, our species are so close. Yeah. I can't rightfully feel good about eating you. Oh, no. They will take Paris Hilton's little dog every day of the week. Yeah, man. No, we are just a part of that same chain of nature, though.

like, I mean, the lion and all, you know, we are. But do you eat meat? Is that part of your? No, I don't eat meat. No, no meat. Fish, okay. Well, that's... Well, that's...

Chicken sometime. But, yeah, no meat. I stop eating me a long time. Meat, I don't know. Okay, but I don't understand that distinction. Like, I know people say I'm a pescatorian. I just eat. I mean, if you're willing to kill a living creature who's living his best life,

I don't know why you don't go all the way and eat whatever. It's not because I don't like, I don't, I don't, I have nothing against people killing cows and eating cows, but it's just my digestive system. I don't need it. I don't need to put that type of meat inside of my system. Right. From I stopped it, I stopped it when I was young. Like, I, and when I stopped it, it was like a philosophical, spiritual thing. But I just, I can't put it back into my system. Like, it just, I don't feel like, and what I've heard about meat to, like eating meat, and how long it takes, how long it takes. to digest on them type of thing. I don't need meat, so I don't eat it, not because I've any kind of great idea. I just... But I'm so fascinated by this and your families, and I'm always happy to see any sort of cross-cultural marriage.

My own life, my parents married in 1951, that is a long time ago, and my father, Catholic, my mother, Jewish, not really a practicing Jew, but Jewish. And, like, good Catholic boys just did not. marry Jewish girls in 1951. It was much more outrageous than interracial marriages today.

But I think, you know, this is old school liberalism, not woke bullshit, that the more we mix, the more we don't even know what we are, the better. You can't have prejudice if, you know, and this is a big theme in your music too is a lot about the people and, you know, we're not just crayons in a box.

I love that lyric, that song, that idea. We're not just crayons in a box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what's the next line? And we're not labels for the stock. Yes, great. We're not donkey and elephants. We're not donkey and elephants.

Yeah, we're the people. You know, I don't think a lot of this is probably not the way we're sad if everybody does. You know, love who you love. And your Jewish relatives, they're cool with you? Yeah, man. Even, no, yeah, by now. Always were. No, it was a strange.

I'm a real strange being. Not only am I not. Not only was I not from here, I don't speak. You know what I'm like? I'm a different type of... It should be one thing if she married a Gentile, but who's this dude? Gentile? This is a...

Some way stop past that. This is way past that. It's out of the left-left field. Something was skepticism, man. and Shwerty and, you know, every, usually a Jewish family one, the wife to marry somebody who's Jewish and, you know, continue. That's the whole thing. Or, continue the tribe. Or this is, I think, even more common.

The Jew marries the non-Jew, and then one of them converts. Like, lately, I think it's a lot more people becoming the Jew. You know, they're not Jewish, but the husband is Jewish, and it's like, okay, I'll be. a Jew as if it mattered. But like when my mother did it, she didn't become a Catholic. But she had to like pretend. They made her go to like Catholic like. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I remember she telling me the priest that did it was cool because he could have been an asshole about it. But he was like, look, I know this is bullshit. You know this is bullshit. You know, we're going to, I'm going to tell you about Catholicism because that's how the kids are going to be.

be raised, so you'll be educated in it. But, like, you don't have to, like, pretend, okay? I get it. I'm in the church. Believe me, I know this is polshay. If anybody knows, it's me. A little more lotion on me, Billy. No, I kid the priests.

No, no, but let me tell you, because the thing with me, my wife and her Jewish heritage is that I was already connected to it from my upbringing through Rastafari, because we, within the Old Testament, Solomon, David. Yes. It's the same. Iris Laster, who is one of the men, you know, you know, the day,

and me said, that's God. He was a lineage from Solomon. So I was already, I feel like I was already. Right. You know, that they are linked. You know, so I was already there. They are linked. So I never feel like

have to physically transform because my spirit, I was already spiritually who I am. My name is David. You know, my name is David because of that reason. My mother, my parents name is David. My father called me Ziggy. But we were always, to the traditions, that's why we didn't eat pork.

We follow all of the rules, we're kosher, we follow all the kosher rules for growing up. And I didn't know what Jewish was, but this is the way we were living anyway. We don't know what Jewish was. Well, certainly your cooking must have been better. Jewish cooking is famously not, you know. That's the European style, the Middle Eastern style.

Yeah, maybe so. I mean like matzah. That's a European stuff. And you know what, matzah. Yeah, I know. It's flat, it. listen and the reason why was because they said you know the Jews were always so under attack you know they had to be ready to leave in a minute so they couldn't even wait for the bread to

rise right right right it's like whoa and you other people are complaining these these poor motherfuckers couldn't even wait for the bread to rise that's how wow yeah um but it is not known as as like the world's most delicious cuisine no not the europe my most delicious cuisine no not the But I'm telling you right now, because I have experienced it. So I'm telling you right now. The European side of things different on the Middle Eastern side of things. You understand? The Middle Eastern food, yeah.

Well, that's, there's Oscar. And Persian, to become wife is also Persian too. So the Persian side. Well, your wife is Persian. Persian, Israeli. Well, there's a Persian Jew in the Bible, Esther. That's her bloodline. That's where she's from.

And you know, the David bloodline goes to Jesus. Yeah, yeah. So they say. I mean, but they do make a point in the New Testament of claim, of making that connection for people that the line of King David is, you know, begat, begat, begat, begat, begat, begat, begat, say hello to the Messiah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm summarizing the Bible, but I'm also not getting it wrong. But yeah, you're right. All these cross currents, I mean, Islam is an Abrahamic religion.

In the Koran, Jesus is in the Koran. He's just not considered the final problem. Right, right, right. Yeah. It's all connected, man. But is that all connected to Rasta? Yeah, man. Well, we're all connected to it because, you know, we're all

searching for something and, you know, something. I hear that a lot. You know, I guess that's what it's about, you know? Like the journey of life is exploring. Not just exploring physical, but exploring mental, spiritual, too. There's explore, let's see how, God is there such a thing. I'm not doing that much of that. I got to tell you.

But I'm, you know, maybe, I'm 70. But, you know, like, I feel like I know who I am. I know what I do. I want to keep doing it. I like it, what I do. I like who I hang out with. I'm not sure I'm searching for anything except the next really good streaming series. I'm absolutely searching for them.

Where does that come from? Like, for me, you said that... Netflix. No, you said that creative energy that you have, that creativity. Where does that come from? That creativity. That's a... Tell me about that.

Deep question. Come me, it's the same thing with me. Deep question. Where the shit does my... I was just telling somebody I have no... Part of yours comes from DNA. From DNA. And so does mine.

Okay. I feel like I had the perfect parents to be what I became. I mean, I became a comedian who... whose father is mostly all the news, but not just politics, but culture. I lived in a house where my father was funny and was in the news business. Okay.

So plainly that comes through, and the next generation, you know, I mean, you certainly have, you know, done your father proud with the way you continued on, you know, again, the music, but like 2.0. Yeah.

It's great. I mean, I like your father's music too. Yeah, man, no, no, yeah. It lends itself really good to, like, putting it to a, you know, kind of a, not an electrobeat, but, you know, I mean, they... Yeah, them can't work. They do it all. You can't work with it. You can't do absolutely.

Yeah, no, you really can. And, you know, and this stuff is so great, and the message is always very positive and upbeat. I've never known a unhappy Jamaican. Maybe they're not happy when they're away from me. I don't know. I'm going to take credit. Maybe it's me when I'm around them. I don't think so.

I don't know where does that come from? Where does that come from? That's true. That innate happiness that everybody's trying to get. No, we're not sure the tendencies happiness. But why? Why? Is it, you think it has something to do with the religion?

No, I think you just how we grew up within Jamaica. What brings you happiness? You know, may I say it wasn't material thing. It wasn't the thing for money. It was going to the mango tree, picking the manga, you know, playing stone, playing stoneware with your friends. It was the simple things that make you happy and that's joyfulness. The mango tree. The manga tree are away and just playing on the streets and, you know, you never know anything.

better. I love having a mango on my mouth. Yeah. Wait. That came out wrong. Jamaica have plenty different manga. I was always when I'm here I say, man, nothing against Mexican mango, but Mexican manga ain't got nothing on Jamaican mangos. We need some Jamaican mangas. I don't know if there's some kind of trade embargo or what. But we ain't get no Jamaican mangas up here. Maybe it's the horticulture because, you know, plantains and mango. were just not part of my youth. There was not a Jersey thing.

Where you grew up on? New Jersey. Yeah, but what kind of food you grew up on? What kind of food, meatloaf? Meatloaf. Meatloaf with a potato, right? No, just meatloaf. There was a, I was a sickly kid a little bit,

and so, like if my mother found something I did like, there was like a year I only ate meatloaf. Stick with that. Yeah, stick with that. Stick with that. Find what works. Yeah, that's a secret of life. Finding what works.

For me, it was meatloaf at age six or whatever. But, yeah, I'd catch butterflies. I'd kill them, and then I'd go out to meatloaf. I mean, that was my life. But, you know, it was normal. I mean, first of all, it was, the food wasn't processed. Right. That's the key.

Different. It wasn't whether it was vegetarian or meat. It was that it wasn't poisoned. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Right about the man? True, that's true. Okay?

It's so true. I know about the man. That's true, oh my. Fuck him. Oh, fuck that man up, man. System. We call it the system, you know? The system.

Yeah, they. That's right. Against the people. I was looking around here. You know, because I'm here and I was wondering, because I have questions too. Yeah. You know, like, club random.

Where'd that come from? Look who I'm talking to. It's so random. Random, okay, I got you. It's like last week it was Sam Harris. This week it's you. You know, next week it's the ghost of Elvis. I mean, you just never know who's going to be here.

Yeah. And that's what I love about it. You know. I mean, I love I get to sit here and, I mean, would we be doing this if it wasn't a podcast? Probably not. And yet I'm enjoying myself so much. The freedom, that's the freedom of getting

outside of the system, right? The man. So just getting to know somebody, like, for real. Different, yeah. You know, there's almost no greater pleasure in life. Maybe sexy time, yes, of course. Nothing can really compete with that. But

next to that, you know, there's nothing like just actual communication. Like, like, oh, I like this guy. I always liked this guy. Who is this guy? Right, right. You know, just, I could go to get in just, you know, an hour or two, you can go so, deep you know there are people who I've known for 40 years who I don't really know

because they just never go to that level true true and there are people who I feel like I know after an hour yeah you know no man I understand that it's about how much you're willing to like let somebody in how secure or insecure you are because insecure people can't be honest yeah they're always like playing defense they're always fronting and pretending that it's like you know what just whatever I'm you're not fooling me anyway And so it's just boring. Yeah.

But somebody like you who's real, you know, it's always, so I try to have people here who are only real. Yeah, yeah. You can't always win that battle, but, you know. That's true, but, you know, for me, like, I was all that shy person still. So I feel like some people did sometimes mistake that, you know, and think I'm like standoffish out of all right,

but I always been shy. But I'm coming out at that a little bit now, I think. Like even talking to you here is a little bit of me coming because we're just talking. This is not an interview. Correct. We just talk. Correct. You don't know what I say?

No one could ever accuse this of being overproduced in any way. And that's the way I like it. Yeah. But like, see, a lot of people would say when you go, I'm shy, because I was the same way. Painfully shy as a kid, especially in an adolescent, just when you really need not to be shy to talk to girls you are yeah it was horrible but um they they hear you say that and go what are you talking about you guys you get it in front of right right thousands of people how can you be shy and they don't realize that it's a whole different thing you can be shy in front of two people and not shy in front of 10

000 because it's an audience it's not a person right right right right it's a different experience that not that we don't love them individually but they're not an individual in that thing And they're not also in control. And they're not talking back. Well, sometimes they are. But in general, it's a different relation. It's just a different kind of relation. It is, it is.

I'm doing something for you, and you want me to do it for you. So we have this wonderful sort of symbiotic relationship. You want me to do the thing I do well, and I want to do it for you to give you that gift. Because I remember I did something from a kid's school, one of them have a fundraising thing, you know? And they're marked to perform. So I used to, I carry my kids go school or whatever,

and I did the show. And this teacher was like, she couldn't believe it's the same person. Because when I carry my kids to school, I'm like, but when I'm on stage, it's a different thing. It's a different energy, you know? So it's true, but, yeah. Right.

What did they expect you to walk into the school with the kid and burst into a song? No. Yeah. It's funny to, because I always want, you know, because I always want to, you know, because I rap my father, right? talk to me about my father, because there's this image of my father out there, in other world,

you know, with the girls, and just Bob Marley, you know, like, and when I was growing up, after impasseur, I was growing up, and I was shy, and, like, I didn't see my father as a shy person, like, in, in, in, in, in, after impasseur, like, what, what, what, my, my, my, my, my mindset was about him. But then, one of his oldest friends, Neville, who was, you know, who was around, them like one day said to me one day we were talking and you must say you know people think Bob was like a girl's man who like chase girls and I'm saying no the father was a shy man man I'm gonna say no it might my it might me kind of to be to be fair when you're Bob Marley especially in Jamaica you can be a shy man the girls will still chase you yeah okay you know

You don't need to be an unshy man when you are the biggest badass on the block. I mean, that's true. We're talking about human nature before. That's true. That's true. It is human nature for the female to want to get with the alpha male. That's true. So I'm not saying, I don't know.

No, that's true. That's true. I don't know anything. That's true. That's true. I mean, but I'm guessing, you know, there are certain people, you know, men are always looking for an opening line. Right, right, right. some corny ones.

Hard, trying. But did it hurt when you drop from heaven? You know, that kind of bullshit. Your father's opening line was high. Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah. So kind of you to say those compliments to me. That was his opening line.

Okay, it's a little different. I get you, I get you. Yeah, yeah. But, no, it kind of meant me understand some of my traits and why I am the way I am too, you know, by understanding some of his traits. in that way. So, yeah, you don't have to...

Like what? Like, for me, I got through my father, funny, politics. It came right through. You think the same with your father. Yeah, I mean, Bob is like... I think I even take it to another level.

Because he was much more, like, open than I am and I was. And that was one of the problem, too, because in letting everything and everyone, you know? And it wasn't always good. It wasn't always good to be that open. And it caused you to be that open, too.

What do you mean? Open about what? Just people, just, anybody, whatever, whatever, just open. You know what I mean? Just like... You mean, his life was too public? Yeah, public, not in the sense of what we think about, no, like, like press some...

Not like that way, but... But the people... Yeah, the people... The whole island thought they knew him. He was bigger than just his family. He had to be. He was... And then, in a way, your inner circle.

You know, who's in the inner circle? Do you... In a way, I feel like if he didn't have the ability to say, I don't want you in my inner circle, but he was too compassionate. Because he was, you know, he was, him too... It's too much. So we...

The thing I learned from that, really, Someone are like I don't really have friends. I don't really deal with friends in terms of that. You don't have an entourage? No, I'm gonna have an entourage. I have a fucking awesome entourage. Red and Sonny West. Yeah.

Joe Esposito, Jilly. Uh-huh. And whoever that guy Eddie Murphy has. Which, who that? Who that? Where they? Whenever they die, I hire their bodyguards.

That's my thing. It gotta be the best. You know, get me Elvis's guys. I'm alone. I've always been a loner, though. I've always been a loner. I say that about myself. You're married.

How can you be a launder if you're married? I'm not married and I've never been married. That's a loner. I can be a loner when I'm married too. Right. You went in one of here. Especially a Jewish. She knows.

She knows. Really? Sometimes I'm a loner. So she's cool. She knows when you need to be alone. Yeah, man. She know, man. That's the best kind of woman.

Yeah, man. That's why it works. That's why it works. No, I know. I feel the same way. Yeah, you have to have that. But sometimes as a man, you also have to make sure that, because you can sacrifice that for everything.

You know, you need that. I need that. Need what? That time, my, that. Yes, of course. You understand? So as a man, you also have to make sure you get that. Well, you know what it is.

Look, you're a charming guy. I'm a charming guy. No one has enough charm. to be charming that much of the time. You know what I'm doing? I can be so fucking charming. Not 24-7 every week, every month. Can I get a week off or me charming?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like when I get up in the morning, I'm not in a bad mood. Right. I'm just not in the mood to talk to you. I got you, I got you. People are, oh, I'm not grouchy. Only grouchy because you're trying to talk to me.

I'm having a great time. I'm in my head because it's morning time, my morning, noon, and just, you know, I'll talk to you later in the day. No, we understand that. It's that reality. That's reality. You know, you have a fine woman who can't deal with that. It's just, it's all about acceptance.

And it's a balance too, it's a balance, because you still have a balance what a woman needs also. You know, it's compromising, too, your own selfish thing sometimes. You got to give a little bit and take a little bit, you know? That's how I am. That's how I stay in it. You know, every time, there's some time I say, all right, I'm on a union break.

I'm taking a union break. And then I should laugh and the kids laugh. I'm on a union break, guys. Well, I stayed unmarried for one reason. No woman, no cry. No, I'm kidding. No, I mean, you know, we... you know, we...

But marriage, listen, it's not about marriage. It's about love. So I don't see myself, I'm married to my wife out on love, not out of... The thing of marriage is really a spiritual thing between you and a woman. You don't have to be married in society to have love with a woman or... I don't know, how many women are, whatever. Or a man. Or a man.

So it's like... Or a zoo animal. Yeah. The marriage, the marriage thing is not... It's not the idea I stick. I stick to that love thing because I could have been with my wife and not married and still love her to see me.

I were married and would love to see me. Like, the marriage is like, it's the icing if you want to put icing on the cake. But the cake is still good without icing. You know what I say? The cake is still good, but with the Jewish Roman, I would put a ring on it. Yeah, yeah.

No, you have to. You have to. Now you're talking to people I know, okay? You have to. Okay, I know Jewish girls from New Jersey. You want to put a ring on it too, though, bro. You want to put a ring on that, too? I know, I mean, you want to put a ring in it.

Rings, this is a, this is a health ring. I'm not married. This is, you have one of these rings? No, I'm not one of them. You know what that is? No, some kind of like one, maybe, anybody measure your thing, I'm, la, that, da, that. It does.

It does. It measures all your, you know, I mean, I think mine was reprogrammed by EI. I mean, AI. What does it do? What does it do? Mine tells me my dick is amazing. I don't know what the other ones do, but it just says my erections are through the roof. Now, maybe it's the way I programmed it.

I don't know. No, my, so I don't have jewelry either. What's that? But here, why, I mean, this is. That must be a lion. Yeah, this is a lion. Of course. Lion, a symbol.

This is my wedding ring. I ask my wife to, if I wear my red and wing ring, it's not, it has more meaning than just what society wants it means. So I had to put Hebrew inside of the ring with like, with like the name of the God and stuff like that. So when I put it on, there's a symbology to it that is, that is spiritual and goes beyond a paperwork thing, you know what I say? So that's how, yeah, so.

But the lion... So we stay. Are there lions in Jamaica? Ethiopia. Yeah, Ethiopia. No lion in there. Although we call ourselves lions. You know, we have a handshake in Jamaica.

We have a handstile in Jamaica called a lion paw handshake. People still get the connection wrong, don't they, between Jamaica and Ethiopia? I mean, do we mean? Well, do we really understand... Does the public really understand that connection with what? No, no, no, no, they don't. Well, tell us. Highly Salasi.

Funny, a lot of people think the Ethiopian flag is Jamaican because they don't understand that they see the red, going on green and say it's a Jamaican, our flag is green, black and yellow. But because they associate Rastan that color with Jamaica from, you know, my father and those people. But isn't there a connection with Hiley Salasi in Ethiopia? Yeah, I mean, it's from the fate of Rastafari.

Right. No, the whole story, according to what I understand, was that, again, we're the people in Jamaica who took on the fate of Rastafari, you know, them believing in the Bible and the prophecies of the Bible. And so there's a part of the Bible that tell you the prophecy of the coming of Hill is Slassiei. The kings of kings, the laws of all the cancen. He has all the titles that is written in the Bible. Including a lion. Yeah, and so that was the beginning of that connection. And then there was also a rebellious nature about coming out of independent from England,

out of slavery, out of the white Jesus imagery to find a black representation of God. That is not the white Jesus that came from slavery and colonization. So that was the edge that Rasta had that rebellious nature. And then the locks come from the Old Testament, the vow of the Nazareth. which also in the New Testament, Jesus was a Nazarene. Yeah, he was Jesus of Nazareth. Right, right.

He was not born in Bethlehem. Right, and John was also, so you kept you here on camped. You don't cut you here, you don't drink alcohol, all of these type of tradition. So that's a lot of connection there. And then with Ethiopia,

Ethiopia connection is through the line of Solomon and Queen Sheba. Right, Queen Sheba. Right, it was the Queen of Ethiopia. She went to, the land of Israel at the time, the Hebrew land, and she and Solomon had a child. She had a child in Ethiopia and Manelech.

And then that's where the lineage and the connection started with the Hebrew side of things, you know. So, yeah, the connection had really. The Bible would say Solomon knew her. Yeah. You know the story of how he got, how supposedly he got her? Tell me.

So, all right, so the story is she went into the palace or whatever, you know, bedtime. And she never wanted to get to Solomon, but Solomon said to her, listen, all right, you don't want to me. But listen, if you touch anything of value of mine, then we got to get together. Don't touch any more valuable. By the way, Drake says the same thing. If you touch anything valuable of mine. So when when Solomon prepared a dinner, Salaman, this is the story,

Salaman told the chef, put a little extra salt. Put a little extra salt in a meal. You know, you don't trust the restaurants, right? Right. This is a perfect example. Right. Put a little extra salt.

So after, you know, they had dinner and thing, Queen Sheba went to the bed and thing, and the night she got really thirsty, you know? So she was looking for some water. So she said that thing of water, and she said, oh, here, let me drink some water to drink from there. And Solomon was like, aha.

I tell you, if you touch anything of mine. And she was like, that's just water. Water. And he's like, that's the most valuable thing. In the desert, yeah. And they had a baby. That's the story. The most valuable thing was the water, not the fancy gold, not whatever, jewelry or nothing.

And Solomon is the son of David? Yeah. Right. So it's David. And Solomon, of course, we know, I mean, if people know anything about him, wise, because he's the one who. The baby. The story of the baby.

Yeah. Tell the story of the baby. Splitting the baby. Those two people, two women were saying, it's the same, this is my baby. Two women were both claiming that this baby was dead. So I said, I'm going to cut the baby in two. And the real mother was like, no, no, give it to her, give it to her. Because that's what the real mother would do.

And that was the wisdom of Solomon right there. Right. That's the movie Sophie's choice. Sophie's choice that? You know the movie? I've heard of the movie. Never see it. Meryl Streep.

Is that what it's like? I mean, she basically, it's too sad. I don't want to go into it. It's very sad. But, you know, it's kind of a Holocaust story with the baby. It's similar. Okay. You know, she has to make a terrible choice.

Terrible choice about the baby. I mean, you know, Among the horrible things that humans do is force unbelievably horrible choices on other human. Yeah, I mean, leadership, you know, I feel like the world, the human, like, we have a leadership issue.

I think the human race have the possibility for we are to do good, to be, good, to be better. But the top, there's something going on in the top. I don't know. But who puts the people at the top? That's the question. It's like, how do people get to that place because it must

in some way, either it's by election or just by acquiescence, everybody else, all of us, taking a little responsibility and saying, well, you know, somebody else could be at the top, but that's who came from us

who either fooled us or in some way actually engaged us in wanting that person at the top. I mean, it's so easy to yell at politicians, and I agree, they deserve to be yelled at. You're right. I mean, you know, when I hear you yelling at them, it's like, it's a very satisfying feeling in the song. But, like, the deeper issue was, how did they get there? True, true. You know, Hitler got elected. He was elected. People don't remember that. You know, true. And I don't know. I mean,

Jesus was put on trial when they brought him in to, you know, to put his pilot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was, it was the time of year, it was this time of year, actually, when traditionally the Romans would release one prisoner.

So they had this other prisoner, Barabbas. Yeah? You know him. Why are you laughing? I know the story. Oh, yeah, it's a great story. And it's a great name, by the way. I use it when I check into a hotel.

Barabbas. Billy Barabbas. See if they're on their toes. That's a good one. That's a good one. So you know the story of Barab? Yeah, I'm not a story. What is it? Tell me. Tell me. You tell me. You tell me.

You tell me. When they say, We chew them one release, and the people them say Barabas. Because you why them check Barabbas. And this is a trick. Well, who was Barabas? It was like a gangster. Like a peep from a guy, you know. Like a what?

A peep for a guy. Like a Don, like a Don. You know, a Don for the people. He's like a low-life thief. Yeah, but for the people, him, it's like, he's one of the low, their low-life way, he's one of us. Yeah, I think that's one of us.

I can see that. Like, he's one of, let Barra, they know Barrabahs personally. You know? It's like, yeah, let Barra-a-law's go. Because he robbed them. That's why they know him personally. Them still choose him, you know?

But not you're right, but the people charge. But wait, wait. We've got to go back to why this is relevant. So Barabbas, so it's Easter time. So Punch's pilot says, okay, you know what? Because we're good people. I mean, you've heard a lot of things about the Romans. We're this, we're that.

We kill everybody. We'd conquer. Okay, sure, like you're perfect. But every year at Easter time, here's what we do. We let one prisoner go. And we make this into a game. show we let the people decide right so they had Jesus and they had Barabbas right and they gave the people the choice who would you like to let go son of God

this perfect man this crazy guy who said he's a perfect light this mentally the guy I don't what I said him you know this crazy guy he said he's a son of God or you know Sonny Liston in 1965 And the people pick Barabbas. Yeah. I just think of that every year when I lose the Emmy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

No, but no, yes, still. People are not great at choosing. They're just not. You know. But if they hadn't chosen Barabbas, then Jesus wouldn't have been crucified. And then what would we be wearing around our necks? Right, right.

You know, what kind of bling could you have? Not a cross. We still, but we still need our message. We have to do something. We cannot sit back and accept that. Except what? Accept that. Oh, the people make bad choices.

So that's the way it is. You know, that's... No, not the way it is. But the people have to... It has to start with the people. Yeah. You know, both positively and negatively. People have to take responsibility.

You know, you have a bill of rights. We have rights. We also have responsibilities. True, true. I mean, people are not educated. on what the fuck's up basically if i may use a technical term they don't know what the fuck's up so you know i can i have limited sympathy when they make stupid choices because they didn't do the hard work of educating themselves or or getting involved yeah i mean i hear all the time

people come up to me usually people in fancy restaurants who are doing very well or enjoying all the privileges of the life they hate privilege but their delight is just nothing but fucking privilege. Bill, what are we going to do? And like, you know what? You know what they do in other countries? If they really think things are this bad, they go on strike. They have a national strike.

They sacrifice. They sacrifice. Stop watering from Amazon. You really hate what's going on with the environment so much, and yet every meal is deliberate from grubhubhub. An environmental disaster. You're into crime. crypto, an environmental disaster.

You know, just they, I don't see, I see a lot of talk. I don't see a lot of action. No sacrifice. No sacrifice. We have to sacrifice.

And I mean, leadership can come from, can come from within the people to, in terms of start at that level. Let's take the leadership at that level instead of like, you know, have a bit the biggest president or the biggest, whatever, but the leadership can come from the community level too.

And start it that way there. That's the only way. I feel like I can get, and the music is a part of that too. That's right. You know, the whole pop culture, you're a part of that. We're all a part of that because we still have to push out that energy out there for people. You know, we still have to do that. We're all a part of that.

You know, we have to fight them too. We have to just like they're putting out, just like they're doing their thing, they're doing their, whatever they're doing for them, we have a punch back as hard with our stuff, with what we're doing. We have influence, too. We can, you know. When they go low, we go lower. Yeah, bro.

We go low and smarter too. Yeah. God's not looking. He was called away from his desk. Okay. No, man. You know, I know it's sacred. It's sacred to me.

Yeah, and I'm true to myself. I know. I know. You know, when I have a song called me to myself. So I have to live up to that song. No, man, yeah, I don't, you know, I'm gonna try like, yeah, I remember one time I was in Holland, Ah.

And I read a show, and they would be like, you know, like, hey, you know, my smoke on the thing, and I say, yo, I don't smoke on demand, you know? I don't do that. I'm not like that, I'm not, yeah. But that must be very disappointing to people. Yeah, it is, it is. It is, because the more on that, the more than that the majority, that image with him all that thing you know but

I mean it's like the pope coming out and then be like put the cross away it's just it's just not what I'm all about okay I mean I don't know what you've read about that is so true the Pope you know Catholic this whole thing yes I am but I didn't have to fucking see it all the time all right we get it he died on the cross

that's true but is Jesus part of Rasta is he is he one of Yeshua yeshua Yes, Yeshua, yes. Right. The Jewish, that's the Jewish name for. Yeah, that's his name. That's his name. Very few people were more Jewish than Jesus.

Yeah, that's his name is Yeshua. His name is not Jesus. I mean, for the first hundred years of Christianity, it was really just a offshoot of Judaism. You know, Jesus is a very big character in Judaism. I mean, he was born in a Jewish man in a Jewish. You know, it's amazing how many kids are done. enough not to understand this like Jesus Jewish you can he's Christian it's so

exactly that I mean this is how bad the schools are that they don't teach this basic idea yes there could not have been any Christianity if he wasn't a Jew first it was a Jew but I'm telling you for the like the first hundred years you know there were no Christians there were like Christian Jews there were people who who these crazy people who thought oh this is the Messiah right this is right Whereas the old guard was like, no, this isn't the Messiah. Right, right. We're still waiting.

Right, right, right. You know, I never understood what that personality schism was all about, but it's interesting to me that some people were all about, no, no, no, no, we still need to wait. And some people were like, no, this is it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just, I feel like it's not really about whether he is the guy or not. It's more about your personality and the way you see the world. And some people like to keep waiting and some people like to keep things as they are.

And some people are like, no, this is the new thing. This is great. He is the Messiah. Come on, get on board. And then they miss the teaching. And then they miss the lifestyle. Them take that and put that up as the thing. Like, oh, he's the Messiah.

He's Jesus and I believe in Christianity. But how you live in your life, His example, you're not living his example. No. But you only live in that, you know, we're in the cross, but not living the example of Christ. So it's, yeah. Very few people who count themselves as Christian

have any idea what the example is. Or if they do know, which is probably worse, they ignore it. They ignore it. They just, it's too hard to live up to it. It is, yeah. Love thy neighbor. turn the other cheek.

These are just not, and people just will tie themselves in intellectual knots to find their way back to some justification, you know, where they can say, like, fucking the poor, it's what Jesus would have wanted.

What Bible are you reading? It's just crazy. You know, he was such a hippie, and the Republicans love him. Well, I mean, I know, sometimes I understand. and how they miss. I like, how them...

As you say, people, like, it's so easy for, like, full people, full of masses. It's like... Because I see it clearly, and I'm like, how come nobody's not seeing what, like, the clarity that I'm seeing? What's going on? Like, we're...

It's really interesting to me, though. Looking at that whole Christian thing. But that's what makes it a great thing to write about. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I mean, don't you get your inspiration to write a song? I mean, this is...

There's always like a meaning behind it. You know, it's very, I mean, your culture has the reputation of, you know, just, you know, don't worry, be happy. But there's a lot of deep shit, you know, in you and your father's stuff, you know. I mean, it's not just, you know, it is true. It's not just the surface of life. True, true. I mean, it is, there is a happiness there.

I don't, I never, every, I'm telling you, every Jamaican I've ever known was like their default setting. Right. That's true. Was happy and smiling. And I don't know where that comes from. You've got the herb, I don't know. You think it's the herb? Maybe.

I mean, it's made me happy for 50 years, you know, 50 years and still not addicted. Isn't that awesome? Yeah. You have control yourself, but that's my thing with me. Like, I'm not a control freak, but my most can control myself and not let others or anything else control me. Or tell me when or what we need for those. That's a part of my attitude.

Who are you threatened will control you? Anything. Like watching the news, watching a movie, if you mind, it's not. strong enough these things can influence you listen to a song something negative with these things can go into your brain and over and over again eventually it influence your mind it's a humanity in me love for all humanity man I'm not partial I'm not partial it shines through everything you ever

I'm not partial yeah yeah you know either you're the greatest actor in the world no I'm not which I don't think that's it or that's who you are. And I think that too you are. No, I know you are. No, I know you are. No, I get it. Yes, man. And it's great, you know? I mean, like, there's two times in the day I feel where you really need and want, and dare I say, deserve, because I'm Gen Z. Positiveity. One is when you wake up, and one is before you go to bed. Like before you, I go to bed, I know this is bad because it's light. True, I get it, not good.

But I watch TV. Yeah. That's like, it's like, it's sacred to me. Like, just like Ross to is the, you want to know sacred for an atheist who never got married. It's watching TV before you get to bed. I'm not on my phone or the iPad, like on a big-ass screen, okay? like I'm at the fucking Cineplex, all right? Assholes watching on your phone.

And, you know, before I go to bed, I want to watch TV. But there are some things I don't want to see. You know, I mean, I started watching a series last night, which I do want to watch. It's with Nicole Kidman. And, you know, I mean, I was reading the review. And my girl said to me, You're gonna watch that? I said, yeah.

He said, why? I said, because I trust her, which is the highest compliment I could give to someone in show business. I trust you. You have, every time I watch something that you're in, it's almost always good. You pick good projects.

You're always good in them. But it's about a fucking, you know, serial killer, doctor. I don't want to, you know, it's like, before I go to bed, I do not want to see autopsy scene where the mangled body of the sexually abused victim. Okay. And also when I wake up.

Yeah. You know, I have a special playlist just for waking up. And it's almost all songs with the word beautiful in the title. You know the Ray Stevens song? Everything is Beautiful. That would be a great one to do, Reg. Yeah. That would be great.

You know the song? Don't take it out. Everything is beautiful in its own way. Yes, with a child chorus on it. Don't check it out. You should. Yeah, man. I'm telling you, that'd be, yeah, man.

No, I mean it, yeah, man. Yeah, man. Don't yeah, man, no, no, man, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't yeah, man, me, yeah. What? You mean it. No, no, I'm taking in everything, bro. Everything is beautiful.

Yeah. in its own way like the story summer night there's snow-covered winter's day everyone is beautiful yeah yeah in their own way it's so it's so you that's true you don't be don't be too good to do a cover you don't need them but you know a lot of great people have done covers

there's no shame in doing a cover no one has a shame no doing a cover have you ever done a cover I did drive. Drive, wow. I did drive for the Adam Sandler movie with Joe Baramore. Oh, cool. Yeah, and actually started doing that song live. Because usually I don't like doing covers.

That's true. I don't like doing covers. Beatles did 18. Beesles. Beatles. A 60s mop-top group. They were big in England. Never hit here.

I don't know what happened. They tried, just flopped. But, yeah, 18 covers. They made 18 covers. And some people don't even know it was covers, do they? Some of the fandom, they might not know it was covered. I feel like it would be harder to find musical artists who didn't ever do a cover. Oh, yeah.

Because. That's true. You know, and you know Prince did covers? Prince. Yeah. Betcha by golly well. Remember that one? Creative, Prince did that one, did that one?

Betcha by golly, wow. By the stylistics? Yeah, I know that sound, but I don't know Prince do a version of that. Yeah, you don't. Where you say? Exactly, but I do. Yeah. Let me look it up now.

Don't fuck with me on this, man. How when did he do that one? Like back in the early, early days, I can't give you the year. But check it out. I forgot shake it on it. Bet you by golly, wow. You're going to do that. And then you are going to do a cover of everything is beautiful by Ray Stevens.

But yeah, wake up in the morning. You got to hear that. You got to hear Barbara Streisand's, You got to get up every morning with a smile on your face and tell the world that you're beautiful. Again. You see your husband. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

You got to get up to good. You're serious. You got to go to bed to good. You can't go to bed to an autopsy. No, no, no, no. And you can't get up to it. And like, you know, your stuff would work on either end of the day.

You know, I like, my new stuff. I like my new stuff. I tell people that this is the only album I did that I listen to not as the artist that did it, but just as a listener. Like, it really uplift me. Because I think that's why I wrote some of the songs to kind of, from a mental, emotional health thing.

Well, tell me about it. What is called Bright side. It's not even out now. No, no, it's it. We've got a single out of racism. It was a killer. What is it out? April 18th.

On vinyl. April 18th. Yeah, yeah. Perfect timing for doing this podcast. Yeah. It's weird how that works. See, we'll make it work. Well, and when was your last studio album?

It's been a while. Yeah, last one, that's one was a kids project, but it was during the pandemic thing, so that wasn't really done, you know, really. It's been a while. Wow, the pandemic did a lot for you. Albums, Jewish cooking. Dog, we got a dog too.

I didn't have a dog. Oh, God. Let's have a pandemic every 10 years. We'll tell you. You have a dog. What's your dog? Room, is a water dog. A water dog?

In hyperalgae, because the kids can they have allergies and stuff, you know? Oh, really? No wife. No hair? No, he might fear, but it's like, it's not shedding. It doesn't shed. Oh, cool. Yeah, and my wife, Orley, her name is Orley.

She was so against it at the time, because it's really, you know, she takes on a lot of responsibilities, yeah? My wife, you know, she really kind of, have that kind of personality, you know. Kids are a handful right here. And the dog would be another kid. So she was very reluctant about it, but eventually she loved the dog more than probably I love him, you know, like, if I disillip, she'd like, don't, No, no. So you didn't even want a dog and I can't even talk to the dog.

The kids love the dog. The kids love the dog. It's good. Yeah, my nine-year-old, you don't have a good body. You've got to have an animal in the house. You do. Because it resets your sense of humanity. It resets your sense of honesty.

Honesty. That's what's the best thing about pets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're fucking honest. They don't lie. They don't know how to lie. They don't care. They have no pride.

They have no pride. That's true. And they want that biscuit? Oh yeah. You know. Yeah. Or, you know, you can just give them stuff you wouldn't eat. Yeah.

No pride. And it just gives you perspective on life. Yeah, man. I grew up with animals. I grew up with animals. Which animal? Dogs and cows and goats and chickens. You ate.

Yeah, and chickens. And when I was younger, I started learning to, you know, do my own farming and stuff like that. So I grew up. Do they have chickens around the house? Is that was a thing? Yeah, man. Whenever I see like film of Jamaica, there's always chicken.

Yeah, man. Yeah, man, chicken. And stray dogs. We usually have some stray dogs. Yeah. Brown, we call them. Whatever color there is, that's what we call them. Brownie.

Blackie. White. I hadn't talked about him. Blackie. Blackie? Black. Of course. I'm not that ironic.

Yeah, jet black. Yeah, jet black. Blackie. Blackie. His real name was Ebony, but I never really liked Ebony. It was a little fey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Blackie better.

It just sounded. Blackie better. You have to like the name of the dog. Yeah. And now I have Chula, who's very old. Such a connection. It's, oh, yeah. Such a connection, man.

So, you know, I'm facing being an empty nester. So you'll get more, you'll get another dog? I will, of course. But, you know, when you get them, it is a lot, maybe it's not a lot like having children, but you do have this period where, I mean, they're animals and they don't understand English, which is a real problem.

I try to teach it, but they don't want to learn English. And so you have to, you know, inculcate with them these ideas that are foreign to them, and you can't speak English to them, but they have to know that they can't go to the bathroom in the house. Right, right. And they have to do this and they have to do that. And everything is such a struggle.

And they're young and dumb, like we are when we're young, dumb. And so it's a real, you know, there's an adjustment period. Really with dogs, you only get like a couple of great years where they're still bouncing and full of life and grow when you come home and not like a pain in the ass who shits in the house. And then they soon get old. They get very, like, lazy after about age four. With my dad, get old.

Because he's so active. We play with him all the time. How old is he? What? Three, four. Yeah, exactly. Trust me. When he's six, he's like, you wouldn't get up when you walk in.

Because I'm over it, man. You've been through it. I haven't been through it. You've been through it. Well, I'm glad you're in the area. Yeah, my. I'm glad to. I am terribly disappointed you don't smoke pot with other people, but if I joined the religion...

No, you're not joining religion. Well, love is my religion. Lois my religion. Okay, it's getting a little weird now. What are you saying, man? What do I have to do to smoke pot with you? No. Whatever time, we have a time outside of the view.

But maybe some other time you'd smoke with me? Outside. Yeah, man. In some, in the right setting, with the right, I mean, I'm going to give you the experience of my experience of it. Because I was really looking forward to like coming over here and having my mind blown with your superior, unbelievable Jamaican dope. So I can't tell you. We're going to get to it and it's going to be a story that we'll tell. But nobody, no one will see it.

Great, something I look forward to. No one will see it, but we'll tell the story. As the poet said, anticipation itself is a sensory delight. See that? Thank you, bro. That was a lot of fun. Love, me.

Yeah, man. Thank you, man. Love, love, love, love. All right, man. I mean, man. Okay. Nice, man, nice place. Nice vibe, nice vibe.

Awesome. You good one? Are you good? Yeah, man, me good one. You had a good time. Yeah, ma'am. Thank you, man. Thank you so much, thank you.

All right.