Coffeez with Joe Shalaby - From Wall Street to Warrior ft. Rafa J. Conde (Man of War) | Coffeez with Joe Shalaby

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

Rafa J. Conde walked away from a near–seven-figure Wall Street career to earn $38K as a rookie cop—and spend the next 18.5 years running narcotics, SWAT, and federal task-force ops. Why? A calling to serve, lead, and become the kind of man pressure can’t break.In this episode, Rafa unpacks the identity shift from money/status to mission/service, the moments that harden—or humble—a man, and how those lessons forged Man of War, his global movement to build disciplined, purpose-driven men. We get into the “Warrior’s Hour” morning routine (4:30 AM, cold plunge, meditation, run/lift), leadership under fire, raising strong sons in soft times, and why discipline, faith, and a clear code beat hacks every day of the week.Top producers at E Mortgage Capital are earning more per deal—with faster closings, better tech, and no junk fees.👉 Learn more: https://join.emortgagecapital.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Today, I'm sitting down with the founder and CEO, Man of War, a national male empowerment platform with many different divisions under it that's really elevating male leadership across the nation. Please welcome Rafa Kandi. Roth, thanks for jumping on the show today. Hey, thank you for having me on. It's an honor. Appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks. I like to start the show with the same question as well. Rafa, what's your morning routine? Oh, boy, I call it the Warriors hour. 430 out of beds. like the feet on the ground.

Day, Grace, thank you for everything that I have. Run into a cold shower for two minutes. And then I do my sitting meditation, usually about 10 minutes and then I jog over to the gym, do my weight lifting, sometimes cardio, and then run back home and then start the day. No coffee involved in that process. No coffee, just straight, you know, mindset stuff. Love that, love that. How many miles is the gym away?

about a mile and a quarter. Nice. So you get a two and a half mile run in. Yeah. Every morning. Every morning. Okay. So let's dive into the questions here. So you were making nearly a million a year on Wall Street. And then you decided to walk away from all that.

When you decided to walk away, what was the catalyst for that? Hey man, every time I hear that, I cringe. Even though I cringe, you know, so. Yeah. That was, um, I'm in my life, I guess it was a season in my life really where I just felt like I needed to serve. 9-11 that just happened. All the officers and the firefighters, you know, run up the buildings and people at risk.

Many of them died and, you know, surrounded these individuals in such a way they honored them. And I'm like, man, I want to be one of those. I want to do that. I want to serve for a greater purpose. So I had been on Wall Street as a stockbroker for almost a decade at that time. And I said, you know what? Like I need to do something better. I need to do something that will really change lives.

That will change my life. I need to serve for a higher purpose, as they call it. So I sat down across from my wife. And I said, you know what? I want to change the trajectory. of my life and really your life. We've been married just over a year. You're pregnant. We have one, you know, you have one in, we have a son coming. This is going to be difficult, but I need to do this. A year after I sat down with her, you know, she agreed. She's like, look, I'm, I'm your ride or die.

And from there, I was hired by one of the most violent cities in the United States, Rivera Beach Police Department and well from there I did 18 and a half years as a police officer and most of my career was an archaic undercover I was assigned to several task forces including the multi-agency diversion task force the DEA tactical diversion squad I was part of the ice blue lightning task force I was part of different task forces which were local in the community the board man I did a lot of time doing this undercover gig. Wow. Now how did your identity start to unravel once you left the money, the status, and then all the comfort behind? Well, I was writing it high on Wall Street. I started at a time

where you would throw a dart, you know, hit the Wall Street Journal and stocks would go up, especially tech stocks, right? And it was, you know, the time of chop houses on Wall Street times of Jordan, you know, Belford and the Stratton Oakmont and firms like that. So, you know, the brokers were highly regarded individuals. They were young guys that were making more than doctors and lawyers, you know, back then. So, but I built from the ground up really. I started learning the business model. understanding how to close, understanding the, really the rhythm of the business and studied stocks, companies in and out. I studied the, you know, charting very, very, very, I mean, I was so

much, I was highly focused on charting. And those technical analysis just brought that fire in me. And well, I built from then, from then on, I mean, I went independent. I had a brokerage firm with 17 brokers, started managing almost approximately $480 million, which probably today would be very close to a billion dollars. And this was active trading money, right? Active. This wasn't the financial consultants, save it for 25 years. This was a very, very highly active money.

So made a lot of money along the way. Was a multimillion dollar producer for many years, had some great relationships. and then all of a sudden, you know, you have a beautiful house, beautiful cars. You pretty much have it all. And you just say, well, you know, screw it all. And I'm going to go out there now and I'm going to be a cop for $38,000 a year. That's crazy. I mean, what is that feeling like to lose your house, your cars?

Like, you know, a lot of what you thought was the dream at the time, you know, and you had just started a family fresh out of, uh, you know, a prior relationship. Yeah, I mean, that's tough, man. That's tough. When you say, you know, lose your cars, let me be very clear on that. It's not like they just, you know, we decided to move away from that, right? It was more about that actually lost them in foreclosure.

I lost my cars and, you know, repossessions. I mean, I was going downhill at 100 miles an hour. The wake-up call was when I'm out in the patrol, my patrol car, and I get a call from my wife and says, I just left Starbucks. I walked out and I don't see my car here. Somebody stole it. At that moment, I realized that it's not that they stole it. They repossessed that car because I wasn't able to make the payments. She's there with a little baby in her arms in her arms.

and you know, I'm sitting there in the patrol car. I really can't do anything about it at that moment. So I had to call my dad, please go grab her. And it was embarrassing, shameful in many ways for me. I decided to walk down this road and leave everything as far as I knew it behind. But hindsight, looking back at it now, it was very powerful. It was a very powerful transition in my life. I don't think I would be the man that I am today if I didn't go through that.

I just don't understand the logic to leave something. I know that you knew that there was greater pastors on the other side of what you're doing and you weren't finding fulfillment, you know, in the space that you were in. But the catalyst to go into something so different and not stay in the financial sector, you know, to pursue something. Was it a dream? Was it a calling? Yeah, I think more and more than anything, it was a calling. My cousin had been part of the DEA task force. He was a cop for Miami PD for a very long time for the city of Miami, actually. And I admired him since I was very young. And inside of me, I've always had this urge to serve. I went into Wall Street, not knowing what it was about,

into the market, getting a stockbroker, really. But I learned it. I loved it. And at that time, let's put it this way. The love towards the end of my career,

the love of trading and you know, making money and just, it became, it was so up and down with the market. At that time, I remember the market it crashed and then it went back up and then it was just it was a it was all over the place and it started to wear on me and then you get to the point where you question right your ethics because you're like

hey man i need to bring home a paycheck for my family right okay i can't go you know months and months without commissions when this market so you know you get into this this mindset where you're thinking man i got to move money i got to i got to create i got to figure i have to so I just didn't sit right with me. And I felt like moving in this direction, I knew it was going to be tough, man. I knew it. But moving in this direction,

it was going to change me as a man and it was going to help me become really the man that I felt that I could be. Because I felt like I was lacking some of that edge. I've never really been tested too much. I was always part of the martial arts world. I studied it for a very long time. Training and training.

but I really, really was never tested in the realities of life. And being a cop boy, it woke me up. You know, if you could go back, like, what's one moment? Because law enforcement's crazy, I'm sure, in Miami. What's one, that's where I got Miami PD, right? But what's one moment from your early law enforcement career that tested your resolve or broke you wide open? Oh, my goodness. I mean, sure, there's a lot, but, you know, friend, I could sit here and tell you so many pivotal points in my career that changed my life, everything from, you know, having a young man's head, you know, on my hands like this, right? And he's breathing. His brain is partly blown out as has, you know, and this kid's just looking at me and gargling and looking at my face. And I'm the last person that he ever sees before he dies. And, you know, this is a response to a drive-by shooting in a house.

right and you're there and you're thinking my god like this is this is this is this is real this is this is rob this is happening and things like that you know they they freak you out you know been in gunfight been in situations where you know you're chasing people in the middle of the night two three o'clock in the morning and you're there fighting you know the guy has a handgun you're trying to fight in the middle of an alleyway and your back up it's you know two three minutes away which is an eternity, right? You know, I did a lot of stupid things as a rookie, and that's, you know, I had a lot of energy. I mean, I would be out there two, three o'clock in the morning, jumping fences, chasing guys,

going into the worst parts of a neighborhood. And we worked at a very low socioeconomic class neighborhood. It was predominantly a black area. And it was just funky stuff. And I look back and I'm like, wow, I did all that. That's crazy. I would never do that again. You made it through.

You made it through. That sounds unreal what you experienced. But I'm sure that that wisdom in that journey has been a big catalyst to starting Man of War. It's like, tell me a little bit about like what is Man of War. And let the audience know what it is, how you serve men, and how they should get involved. Well, I was a police academy instructor for a week news and I love teaching the police academy. I taught high liability.

I taught firearms. And it was a very, for me, it was a very, was a great experience for me to give back. But what I started to see was that the young men that were coming through the police academy were weaker and weaker. And women, right off the bat, they were stronger than men. I mean, they were doing things that most men were not able to do that. They were coming to the police academy. So I stopped for a moment and I started thinking, man, what about the warrior spirit in a man, right? The fight, the desire, the ambition, the protective nature in a man.

So I started a podcast, Man of War podcast. And this is back in 2017, and it took off. It was, you know, society and noteworthy. It was up there for eight weeks. It was, it did great. A lot of people started emailing me, DMing me. I started speaking about, you know, my philosophy of how a man should be in this planet, how he should live.

And there's a lot of programs out there that focus on, you know, building more masculine men. And we focus on forging men into, into warriors so so so these men that i built from the ground up a lot of these men were missing a lot of these men were missing the the edge they were missing the um how did i say it the the certain drive in their in their minds and their bodies and their so they were missing really discipline and the situation really that happened to me when I was in this particular police academy I started talking to men and they didn't even know what the warrior spirit was about they

didn't even understand what really being a warrior was all about what battle what really survival on the street was all about. But the bottom line is that, thank you, and I need this here next to me at all times, please. The certain battle, these individuals didn't get that. And these were cops that were moving forward in the streets, but they didn't have that edge. So what I started was focusing on forging these men into warriors, giving them the discipline, giving them a code, giving them a way of life, having them understand that they can overcome the most difficult challenges in life, push themselves beyond their self-imposed limits, to get around great men, to surround themselves with greatness. And, you know, we started building these warriors for business

also from a perspective of, look, you know, you're entrepreneurs, you go out there, you build empires, you forge forward, you learn how to negotiate, you learn how to have command presence, you learn how to enter a room and own it i mean i can go on and on so the bottom line is um it was more than anything else it was more about the warrior spirit rather than masculinity it was about redefining and re-energizing that so from there you know i've built a a very strong following of men who were really focused on resurgence of that warrior spirit wrote a book a best-selling book and And from there, you know, it's taken off. So that is our philosophy here, really, to forge warriors.

I love that, you know, and the reality is every successful entrepreneur is a warrior. There's no way you're not, you know, someone who has warrior spirit engraved in you and you're a successful entrepreneur. Every person I've had on my podcast is a warrior because they've fought the good fight to, get to where they're at. The caveat, the hardest part about that, and this is probably the solve that you've had with the group that you have for sons is we get to a level of success because we had to fight. We come from poverty. We come, we're immigrants and yada yada. And then our sons are born in abundance and they don't have the same fight. So how do we teach that warrior spirit to the next generation who don't have to fight?

like we did. Yeah. I believe you have to build a strategic structure at your home. You have to be able to say, hey, listen, look, times now, you know, we came up at a different time. We had to put in the time, the work, the effort. You didn't have someone holding our hands. So sure, you want to help your kids out as a father, but the best way you can guide your kids

is to give them little pieces. Okay. them figure out the other side. So one of the things that I, you know, I've always told my sons is, listen, I'm going to give you, you know, maybe 30 percent. You're going to have to figure the other 70 percent out yourself. Okay. But, you know, you give them a push, right? You give them because out of love, you want them to succeed. But at the same time, out of love, sometimes you have to want them to fail, too, because that's the only way that they're going to learn. You know, we talk about, you know, successes all the time. Everybody wants to, you know, ring the bell,

success, success, success, but wait a minute, you know, really what defines a man in the end is his struggles. And I will argue this all day long because, you know, I have metrics and analytics. I've coached over 10,000 men, probably 11,000 men at this point. And I can tell you that every man that it has made anything of himself has gone through an extremely difficult situation in his life. it doesn't matter where relationships business you know parenting um you know maybe vices you know from drinking and drugs they've overcome a tremendous amount now you know the the thing that we have going on in our world right now unfortunately is that everybody wants you know a piece of cheese you know and for free hey let's catch on the way up no sometimes you have to build it on the way down

And unfortunately, you know, it hurts because that's when you start losing. That's when you start feeling uncomfortable. You start realizing that man, maybe you're not putting in the time and the effort. But I believe that when you rip a man's soul from him and you give him the opportunity to rise up, he'll be the strongest version of himself times 100. Now, let me ask you this. You rose to the SWAT, the narcotics, federal ops. What did those experience teach you about leadership under those extreme pressure situations?

You name it. I mean, we're talking about deleting from front, making sure that your head is on a swivel, dotting your eyes, crossing your T's, obviously organization, crucial, making sure that you can, this is probably one of the biggest delegation, right? Sometimes as a leader, you don't want to delegate. delegate anything because you think you can do it better than anyone. But in reality, you can't do everything. So you're going to have to figure your way out. So delegation, making sure that everyone knows their expectations. You know, these are all critical components of really building, you know,

yourself up as a leader and really being able to lead a squad, right? And I would say, number one thing. that everybody knows your mission, right? Because we have so many great leaders out there, and they're great. They'll lead people, but nobody really knows their mission. And that's a lack of communication. So a good leader communicates his mission. What is the objective? What are the goals? How are we getting there? That way everybody's on the same page. And when you're able to do that, When you have that capability, man, you are, let's put it this way, you have grown to be a very, very strong leader. Now, let's dive into the biggest misconception people have about masculinity.

How does man of war challenge that? Well, misconception there is that there is such thing as toxic masculinity and let's go real for a moment. Just go back in time. You know, men have built this planet from the ground up. And I respect women to the point where, you know, I mean, I have a daughter and, you know, my wife is an unbelievable woman. She's supportive. She's on my side. She pushes me.

She holds me accountable. But the reality is that, you know, you as a man build a framework in your home. And you are the protector and you are the provider. And your family is going to rely on you. The moment that a man, which in my opinion is the king of his castle, abdicates his role. as a king, okay, he passes down that role to his wife. And there is in no way, shape, or form that a woman can and should lead a household with the man inside that household. It's completely backwards, and we've seen relationships completely fall apart because of that. So what we do here,

and why people are sometimes critical of what we do is that we give men the crown back. We give them the opportunity to be kings, to rise up, to lead their families. Now, keep in mind that we don't give it to them just because we say they're men. We give it to them because they've earned it. And once they earn that crown, they could go home and start leading from the front with love, with tenderness. but at the same time, with conviction and drive and power. And if you can balance that type of masculinity, you're going to have a thriving, very, very thriving relationship

and be able to be a great father. I mean, it's hard to balance that now, because we're in this really, you know, misconstrued society where there's a balancing act between toxic masculine. You don't want to be too toxic. You don't, you know, this hyper political environment, not so much in Florida, but like here in California where you're masculine, you got to just kind of tread lightly, you know, or you're going to upset a lot of people. Yes.

And as leaders, like, I'm a CEO. Like, you know, there's a balancing act for me, you know, because being a public figure even, you just can't, you can't do too much to express your masculinity. How do you, you know, teach your leaders to kind of balance that to where it's not offensive? Well, see, this is where we and you are going to be a little bit. We're going to have different angles of attack here. I don't think that you express your masculinity intentionally. I think that it becomes part of who you are, right? Right. The moment that you start trying to refrain or back down from your masculinity,

I just think you do yourself a huge disservice. Now, obviously, a leader has to have that balance that you're talking about. I think that you can't be overly aggressive. I mean, just look at, you know, the way that Abraham Lincoln led, I mean, he was a very masculine alpha male, but, you know, you never. saw him really scream or you never saw him get out of whack, but he was very poignant in the way that he spoke, very direct, very articulate. He would straighten you up really, really quickly, but he did it with finesse. I think what we are missing here in masculinity is more of that type of finesse, right? The way that we articulate ourselves, the way that we carry ourselves, I think that there's a misconception that masculine alpha males are tattooed guys with beards and muscles and they're just like kind of apes running around and be ruined it out yeah yeah yeah but but that's not

at all what you know i rather this is a way that i rather think of of um i model like a man and if you look at you know like sean connery 007 uh guys like you know john wayne guys like even in the modern world like guys like john wick right he's a savage but he's able to also be controlled in another side um you know it just seems to me sometimes that people get they just ride each other's bandwagon and you know that that leaves a lot to be desired especially in our world here now i know california is actually another world i know that you know there's a different type of thinking but it's just not now. It's been around, it's been like that for 30 years, 40 years. And I have a lot of friends that live there. And I think that for the most part, we need stronger masculine role models in positions of authority.

So people can see that they are not like this toxic type of people that, you know, know, that they think that they typically are, you know, like right now, if you look at, you know, the president, like him or not, like every, you know, masculine, everything masculine and toxic or whatever. I don't know. Look, you know, that's up to you. That's whatever you think. But, you know, bottom line is that we need to get into a position where a man carries his weight. A woman has no business being the protector and provider in her household. I saw the funniest meme of Donald, Donald Trump put it on the real Donald Trump of him making like Gavin Newsom like this pansy just like hitting the boxing bag like, you know, like a girl like, you know, it's pretty funny meme. But I'm like, that's California for you.

You know, like that's with you know, it was a, I don't want to say, you know, but you get the feeling, you know, a face of Gavin Newsome. It was a meme and it was like a girl swinging at a, you know, a girl body swinging at a punching bag. And it was pretty funny. But it was pretty indicative of the state of California that we're in. Like when I say the state, that mindset, I mean mindset that a lot of California residents have currently. We're in a hyper-liberal society. A lot of people don't want to work. You got a lot of people that don't know what gender they are, what sex they are.

It's a very confused place. Have you always been there in California? Yeah, I love California. I'm in Newport Beach. It's a secular. It's, we're really separated. Yes. We're like, we're like Florida here.

Yeah. Very different there for sure. It's very different ultra-Republica. But you go down the street to L.A. And I don't even let my kids step foot in L.A., you know. But let me ask you, let me ask you a question. Is it because, you know, this is what I, right? For a while?

Yeah. Okay. Is it because the people that live there have this, this mind shift? I mean, because I think about it, and it's like, you have to vote that governor in over and over again. People have to vote him in. Yeah. Well, it's a, you know, it's a liberal state. You know, people are liberal here.

They don't want to work. They don't want to, you know, like the employment laws are all for, you know, condone laziness. and, you know, ultra-high taxes. I mean, we pay a weather tax, but it's extensive. And it's not, you know, we try to, it's like, you know, it's kind of a socialist society for a lot of it. It's, you know, I personally feel that the fires that happened in L.A. were divine intervention to wake L.A. up.

Wow. You just burn an entire city, you know, like. And, you know, I think that was God talking to L.A. Yeah, yeah. Saying wake up, you know, wake up and stop living like Sodom and Gomorrah. You know, or I will burn this place down. And he was about to. Yeah.

Oh, no, I was what I know. He was about to. I mean, he burned cities. He burned the richest people in L.A. The people actually that didn't deserve it. Those are the, you know, those are the people that were the most Republican, the most, like, a lot of them were very God-fearing. I have a lot of them now are in Newport now.

moved here. So, but the Palisades was the most abundant city in Los Angeles and, uh, wow, wow. Yeah. Um, the sad, I'd say, man, we're, we have, we have, I have many friends. I have a few friends that live in San Diego in that area, a couple of them that live in Freeport. Uh, and you, um, another, another one that lives in, in L.A. right now, he's about to move. Um, you know, I just interviewed Franks Toulone a couple of, uh, weeks ago, you know, That's the Vester Stone's brother? Yeah. What's his opinion?

He's, oh, say it again? What's his opinion about where he lives? Boy, he destroyed it. He destroyed it. Oh, he did. I couldn't control him for half an hour. He's attacking California and the governors and the Democrats and the liberals and, you know, L.A.

How it's completely different than what it was, you know, years ago. He can't walk out of his house. I mean, I'm like, wow. Wow. And is that Sylvester's opinion, too? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's, you know, they're connected.

You know, they're very close. And that's for sure. A lot of people that live there, you know, they, you know, they, because it is a beautiful, I mean, take, take all the crap away and it is a beautiful state, man. Like, it's beautiful, right? Yeah. The political environment's lousy. Yeah. And I know Sylvester's conservative as is Arnold Schwarzenegger and these guys are, you know, I mean, Sylvester should run for governor. I mean, Grant Cardone was going to run for governor here. I thought he was going to. Interesting. I was, I was so pumped, you know, because he's just like, he's great. He will clean he will clean it up. He'll clean house. He'll clean house. And he was going to make a run. He was doing a tour.

you know he didn't formally announce it he was just getting a lot of people to kind of voice their you know their backing so he who knows he still might make around for it do you think he has a support over there oh yeah dude we need i just don't know you see i know all there you know from what i saw there's a lot of backing but then there's just so many people that are kind of degenerates there's more degenerates in california yeah than any other state there's you know, tens of millions of them. Yeah. You know, I only know the abundant, affluent ones apparently, you know.

Those are doing well in society. The ones listening to this podcast. Have you seen a lot of people move out of L.A. and in that area? Yeah, yeah. I saw a lot of friends, a lot of other entrepreneurs. I mean, they'll move to like Arizona. They'll move, you know. Texas, Florida is a big state people are moving to because it kind of has the same weather.

And we we we initially was like man we We saw California play team We're like get out But then we start realizing is that the people that are coming here Are actually pretty pretty conservative You know I just don't want to be in that environment anymore Yeah But again I'm sheltered

I'm in Newport Beach Irvine Orange County for the most part's very conservative So yeah You know um But Newport is hyper conservative Very this is where Trump visits you know so yeah i have i have i deal with the lombard game gougain chipp there a lot so they're um that you know they're

people there everyone that i've ever met there yeah so hard working yeah we don't mess around everyone loves god everyone let me ask you what does faith play in your position you know like huge how important is faith and you know everything i mean i got to tell you know my wife is a pastor her father is a is a is a a are very well known under Derek Prince Ministries. I mean, you know, everything. For me, it's, it's literally without getting cringier, whatever, you know, some guys. Yeah.

Listen, I'll get down on my knees and I'll pray very much about connecting myself as close to God as possible. and I believe that, you know, everything that I do, you know, and I always talk and I always say this, you know, all the glory goes to God. You know, no matter cars, houses, money, trips, great times, all that, all the glory, you know, only blessed because of him. Yeah, I've been pretty vocal, you know, I'm Coptic Orthodox. We're the first Christian people are, and I came to America because of religious asylum, you know, because we were being persecuting. killed off in Egypt. So I used to kind of shout it from the rooftops under the Biden administration that I'm Coptic, I'm Christian, you know, because I would relate it like, well, the transgender people get to do it. They get to raise their flag. And I got the right to do it. So I didn't

care about the backlash. Now it's like, thankfully, it's a much more accepted. I don't have to like raise my, my Christian flag as much. But I'm pretty vocal about it because, you know, I do everything to serve God. My whole purpose, my objective, you know, my life. People are like, why does God bless you so much? Because like, I just, I'm here to serve. I exist for one reason. I don't care about money.

I don't care about notoriety. I don't care about the accolades. And God just gives them. And then what happens? I got to like figure out how to use these resources to give back. Yeah. That's a great mindset. So the more God gets, the more I have to give back.

Yeah. We have a good Coptic community here in Boca, good people. Yeah. This guy George Sorreal, he's a good guy. He was actual Donald Trump's executive vice president. He was an attorney for him for over 10 years. So we have a nice community here. Good people.

Yeah. I mean, the Coptics, you'll always notice and uh we do a coptic con annually it's in it's in a boca so we always have a bunch of coptic entrepreneurs fly out there um yeah i mean the cops people you always see because because they put god first they're always successful there's no like there's no science here it's just fact you put god first and he will bless you it's a hundred percent certain in america now you could be in Kenya are a third world and have no resources or no means and unfortunately and those are the people they love God the most but they just don't have the ability to become abundant but those that serve

God here first but God here first there's no people like why are Copt the people so successful it's because they love and serve and do God's work you know you mentioned abundance which is great that having if we have a state of mind and state of mind. It just, you know, for me, it's,

it's about just giving, man, just giving, you know, and somehow I give and it all comes back. It's just a weird, it's just funny how life force,

man. I got a couple last questions for you, Rafa. What's a personal goal that you have for yourself, a family goal that you have for your family, and a business goal that you have for men of war? A personal goal.

I want to, reach a million men because my blood actually change lives and connect with a million men by the time I'm you know may make my transition out of a man of war or I pass away or move on to the you know to the other side the it comes to family I want to make sure that my son finishes law school my daughter she's going to be 13 now coming up and these are important times in my life where I'm transitioning my kids now to almost start, you know, being on, you know, my son's in college and then my youngest, my daughter now, she's probably going to transition and she's into high school. And then it's just going to be me and my wife while the kids are

out of the house. So we are one of our goals for when me and my wife are, is to travel the world. We really want to travel to different places. We have not. had the opportunity to do so because my law enforcement career and I just retired just over four years ago. So we haven't traveled as much as we've wanted to travel. So it's time. In the next four or five years, my goal is to say, hey, let's go. Let's take a couple of months. We're going to go around the world. Love that. Now, from a business perspective, I want to expand our territory. Right now, we've expanded into Latin America. We are, basically, we are executing in so many, so many countries in Latin America.

But the next step now, we're moving into Europe. And we're going to take Europe by storm. So that's my focus coming up here for the next three years. I love to hear that. That's great. Global expansion, baby, let's go. Last question. When you're in front of the pearly gates.

What do you think God's going to tell you? He's going to say, Rapha, you know, you've been a man who lives with great conviction. You have screwed up many times over and over and over and over again. But in your heart, you've always honored me in everything that you have done. And I believe that's truly the way that I've lived my life. Not perfect in any way, shape, or form very far from. but my life has been to honor my savior. I love that and I love that.

God bless you. I hope you at every single one of your goals. And the Lord continues to bless you beyond measure abundantly. Thank you very much. Family. Same to you. If people want to find you, how do they find you? Rafa J.Cunday.

You can find me pretty much anywhere on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, you know, all over. You look for Man of War Crucible. That's M-E-N-O-W-R-Crucible. That's our program. You can go to man-of-war.us. It's M-A-N-O-F-W-A-R dot-U-S. That's our website. And you'll see our programs, our culture development, strategy.

We give a lot. You know, we're not just taking. We're not asking you to join anything. We just give you a lot of things that you can use for your life right off the bat for free. Okay. And then if you want to do your thing with us, we'll welcome you in if you're the right fit. Love it. Thanks, Rafa. It's been an absolute pleasure.

I look forward to having you back on the show. God bless you. You, man. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it.