Coffeez with Joe Shalaby - Living on God’s Timing ft. Pacemaker Chené | Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

In this episode, Joe sits down with Chené Micah Williams — known online as Pacemaker Chené — a 26-year-old trainer whose story is a literal heartbeat of faith and resilience.Born with a rare congenital heart condition, Chené received a pacemaker at just 16. What most would see as a setback became his greatest source of strength. Through his brand Pace Fitness, he’s built a movement that blends physical training with mental and spiritual health—showing others how to “pace” themselves through life’s toughest rounds.We talk faith, fitness, and finding purpose through pain. This conversation is a reminder that every breath is a blessing, and that God’s timing never misses.Top producers at E Mortgage Capital are earning more per deal—with faster closings, better tech, and no junk fees.👉 Learn more: https://join.emortgagecapital.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Start your free trial today. So go all the way back to the beginning, I was born with a second degree AP heart murmur. Pretty basic now, but at the time when I was born in 1998, it was very rare to see an infant. You had to have a pacemaker installed in your heart at the age of 16. 16. Welcome to another episode of coffees.

Tell the audience, what is your company all about? And what was the intention behind Pace Fitness and kind of like the vision for it? Okay. So to begin, I started out. out as just a basic personal trainer. You know, once you have done that for a little bit, you kind of question what is the actual goal? Because after a while, you meet a lot of people who have different areas of where they need

help in, and you ask yourself, how can you make yourself beneficial for them? So a lot of it, I realize it's more mental for a lot of people than just physical. And as a new personal trainer, I thought it was just about lifting weights, the physical aspect of it and diet. But a lot of people come into the gym with a lot of different. issues, family history, health conditions. And once I started to explore my health condition, I kind of related it back to me on how I got over that hump. So then I started to compare other people. It's like, okay, well, how can I get this person to point A to point Z a lot quicker than

just lifting weights? So then I realized that if their mind is right, if you feel good about yourself, you're more likely to put more effort in to your overall workout. So if you take that same work ethic, you apply to your workout to your whole life, it can take you so far. So that kind of brought me to the name pace fitness derived from me having a pacemaker and pace and pacing yourself at life don't rush it so so yeah so you you had to have a pacemaker installed in your heart at the age of 16 16 let's go let's talk about that so what was a catalyst for getting a pacemaker and then you know and how did you transform your life after so to go all the way back to the beginning i was born with a second degree apie heart murmur

pretty basic now but at the time when I was born in 1998 it was very rare to see in an infant so I'm giving you the whole story so I was born at um providence hospital located in southfield Michigan when they noticed I had a heart murmur they freaked out they wanted to airlift me to a different hospital at university of Michigan my mother was like we're not taking a helicopter we're in a drive it was a lot safer for her so to put her at ease we drove over to our University of Michigan that's when they declare it that I had a second degree you heart murmur. So life after that, they didn't really see affecting my life. They knew at some point it was going to maybe turn into stage three. They just didn't know when. So they didn't want to

give me a pacemaker too soon because at the time, pacemakers were a lot bigger at the time. So walking around as an infant or a toddler or a young teenager would actually limit me a lot. So fast forward in 16 years old, I was at a trampoline park and I tore off for ligaments to my knee. So keep in mind, six months prior, I just had a checkup with my cardiologist and everything was fine. Still stage two, heart murmur. So from that time until I hurt my knee, they found out that my stage two moved into stage three. So that means a leakage of blood.

So if it wasn't for me hurting my knee, I would never found out that the stage two moved into stage three. So that's where I go back to saying it's all God's timing because I wouldn't have had another checkup for like another six months and I would have had to find out the hard way. So life after having a pacemaker, I would say, first off, the recovery process for the surgery was like two weeks. I had my arm in a sling because the incision is above the chest or the pectoral muscle on the left side.

So if you rip it, you know, it's going to rip that incision open, which could be detrimental. So I have to keep my arm like this for two weeks. It was pretty simple, pretty smooth. But I would say it didn't really hit me to like a year after, to be honest, that like, wow, I have a pacemaker. Like, okay, looking in the mirror, I already kind of skinny, I can see it, you know, the type of looks I'm going to get when I take my shirt off, go to the beach, go to the gym. So it became like a huge mental battle for sure. But once I realized, you know, I started getting more included in my faith, and I think that's when it hit me the most. I grew up in church, just physically going.

But I think when life happens, you really realize what to fall back on and how to stay grounded. And that was definitely through my spirituality. So once I saw this as not a curse, but rather than a gift, my whole mind changed. And it was like, okay, what's better than life? I'm here, right? You know, so pacemaker or not, I'm blessed to be alive. So that shifted my whole mindset. Now you've decided to kind of commit yourself to helping people who have, you know, some sort of ailment, health ailment.

What was the point you realized that this was my mission, this was my purpose? Once I was able to overcome my mental battles, you know, I just started feeling the best I've ever felt maybe like three years ago. And I understood what that took and it took a lot of looking myself in the mirror and understanding that there's no problem too big to handle. Like here I am, I have a pacemaker and I use 90% of it. Without it, I'm basically done. So it kind of made me, it put pressure on what is my purpose. And I tell us myself what makes me happy. and it's just simply getting people to whatever they want to get to.

Whether that's physical, mental, they all tie into each other. So that kind of put a spotlight on what my mission was, and it's just simply to help people and to simply coach them through whatever they're going through. So I know what it feels like to have something like a health condition stop you from, stop you from feeling like you're good enough to do what you're setting out for. So once you're able to get over that hump, Just imagine yourself on the other side of those issues. You're an incredible person.

Like, we're all incredible. Like, when I speak to you, I'm speaking to the God in you, because God isn't all of us. And now when I get that out of people, because society now, we don't talk about it enough. That's something we connected about immediately. Yeah. One of the things that the pacemaker has done for you

has just made you really aware of how precious life is. Yes. And it's very rare that I come across someone, especially a young guy like you, that's like that thankful. Yeah. For every breath he takes. And that's what intrigued me.

I'm like, listen, it's a new business. I want you to come on the show. Yeah. Talk about it. Talk about the vision. And, you know, and there just needs to be more awareness, especially for young people about how blessed they are to be alive because everyone takes it for granted. Of course.

Even just like health. Health in general, I think we wait until it gets too late, especially men and especially people in their 20s. We wait until we're 40 until we get anything checked, you know, or we wait to something bad happens. Yeah. You know, just because you may physically look good on the outside. outside doesn't mean your insights match. So that's where I come in because a lot of people in their 20s, especially even 30s.

They don't talk about it enough until it's too late. Now, how does pace fitness differ from any other fitness company? Well, there's no one else representing, I feel, their health condition like a pacemaker the way I am, especially because when you think of a pacemaker, you think of people generally in their 80s and 90s. So it kind of reshapes what you think about pacemakers. Like, oh, wow, you were 16 when you got yours. And it kind of makes you think, well, maybe I should get checked. Maybe I should look inside and see what's going on until it gets too late.

Because, again, that was all God's timing. And there's nothing I could have done about that because I just had a checkup. But again, it sheds like there's no such thing as going to the doctor's office too much. Well, maybe there is. But as far as checking in yourself, I think we checking in ourselves when it gets too. late or we feel like we're about to fall off the bed. So my company really sheds light because it talks to all age groups. So you would think a pacemaker is just 90 year old category, but no, everyone. Because again, I was 16 when I had mine's put in. Usually when people get there

is put in, they're usually 40s, 50s, 60, 70s. Here I am 16 going on 10 years now. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. So that's crazy that you went through such an experience. experience, an eye-opening experience. And now, I'm going to take it back to the beginning. So you've moved a lot growing up. You lived through your parents' divorce and relocated from North Carolina, California. Now, what part of that constant change do you think shaped you the most? Hmm.

I would say, so I also lived in Georgia. After I lived in, so a timeline, I lived in Detroit, then I moved to Greensport, North Carolina. Then I moved to a place called Summer for North Carolina. and then I moved to Georgia. In Georgia, I lived in a place called Duluth and John's Creek. And in John's Creek, I was in a sophomore year of high school, and I played the violin. So my mother and my grandmother put the money together for me to go overseas to Italy to play with my orchestra. And I think that shaped me the most because that was the first time I ever been out of the country.

I'm from a place called Detroit. You know, not a lot of people make it out. And if they are, it's usually for the same reason. So a kid from Detroit, you know, walking around the street. streets of Italy playing the violin and itself was like wow there's more to life you know so after that i think that trip made me think a lot bigger you still play the violin no no i don't but that's all i listen to classical music and jazz music and i thank my parents for that that's awesome that's the best music it's the best music yeah and that's real music yeah it's real music words get kind of boring

um so how did it you know how did really getting a pacemaker at 16 shift your relationship with life, your body, your faith? So as far as my body, it made me, you know, realize that I have a couple of things to overcome as far as feeling comfortable in my own skin. It took me a long time to feel comfortable in the mirror or even just taking my shirt off. I don't tell a lot of people of this, but I guess I'll tell everyone now. So I had a little bit of identity issue as well.

I would wear, I was super skinny, and I think this was right after the heart, no, right before the heart surgery. I would wear a bunch of shirts under like an under armor shirt because I was so skinny, I wanted to seem bigger. You know, so I'd walk around a bunch of shirts on, doesn't matter if it's hot, sweating my butt off, you know, whatever it was. Then my mom saw me one day and she was like, why do you have all those shirts on? Take all that stuff off. You know, you need to be comfortable in your own skin. And that kind of, I think her calling me out on something so vulnerable actually pushed me in the correct direction, like mothers are four.

So I look at where I am now, you know, four surgeries later, I have the body that I want, and all the tick was just looking myself in the mirror and being comfortable with who I am as a person. It doesn't matter, you know, comparing yourself to other people. There's always somebody better at you than something. Instead of downing yourself, ask them how did they get to where they are? Because you might not know how they got to where they are. They might not even be happy for all we know, because we always look at the physical image and the aspect, instead of understanding how that person got there.

So that's how the pacemaker kind of, shifted my body because it made me realize I have some work to do as far as self-love. And I think once you love yourself, life gets a lot more clearer, especially today, like an Instagram society, you know, so quick to compare yourself to a 10-second image. And you don't know what's going on behind that image at all. And as far as faith, you know, I couldn't get out here. I couldn't get here without God at all. And I was always going to church physically.

But mentally I was never there. And I think when I ask myself, okay, why do I keep coming to the same halting life? It's because I'm not really giving myself completely to Jesus. You know, I'm posting the quotes. It all looks nice, but what does it mean to actually give yourself to the Lord? And I look around and I say, okay, it's easy to say what's wrong in your life. But I'm still breathing right now. I woke up today and that means I have another chance to make it better.

And that's all because of God. This right here was all because of God. So what am I complaining for? That perspective that you have, it takes decades. I mean, men don't learn that perspective until they're in their 40s. Yeah. And so there's a lot, that wisdom that God gave you at a young age is really priceless because you can wake up a lot of youth.

Yeah, for sure. You could wake up a lot of youth who are listening now or who are, you know, just kind of falling to the wayside or falling into their own fleshly desire. you're kind of you're staying away from that stuff yeah i think that's i think without this i would be that guy too and that's why it has lied on this so much more because it's like i'm so thankful to go through something like that because it really woken me up in places i need to be woke up in now when you first when you first diagnosed did you ever feel like these limitations might define your future or you're always you know ready to push past them um i would say that

they, I always thought they would define me in a good way. I just didn't know how. And I think that positive mindset just, it becomes from me having a good family. And then being there throughout the whole way, especially my mother. Um, she never let me go through a day where I kind of doubted myself or questioned my pacemaker. She always reminded me, this is a blessing. You need to make something of it. She was always on my, always on my butt about it until this day. Um, so I think having her in my corner and just the rest of my immediate family, but specifically my mother, she's a real expert in all this, so I owe it all to her. She never let me think down to myself at all. And I think your support system really says a lot about where you'll go in your future. And I think another

thing is I was afraid to ask for help. And I think, because I grew up super quiet and super shy, so I will wait until things get super bad until they're unable to be helped to get help. So with her in my corner having conversations with me that I didn't want to have. It pushed me and it opened doors for me to be, okay, it's okay to talk about what's going on the side because I want to feel good. That's the goal. So if this is something that I have to do that's maybe slightly uncomfortable, but also gives me the rest of my life happy, I'll have to go through it.

I love that. Now, Pace Fitness is such a dope brand name. When did the vision for building something personal and powerful first take shape? I would say soon as I moved out to California I think that's when it became more real the reason for moving out to California because I felt I was wasting time

living in North Carolina I think that I learned all I could have learned and I think sometimes in life we are afraid to pick up and go because we feel like we're running but no I just really exhausted all my resources there and I know what type of life I want to live so I have to go get it.

So thankful and not I have my brother out here, Chris Staples. Where's you? So, first off, he's the world's best dunker, former Harlem Globetrotter. He's one of the world's best dunkers? I would say he is the world's best dunker. Really? Yeah, because when I think of the world, yeah, you did.

He was at the event. So he's the famous Snapchatter? Yes. Among other things, yes. Oh, right on. Yeah, so he already built a huge platform, even when I came out here three years ago. So I think it was a little pressuring because it was like, okay, this is his world. But also in a positive manner, I could see how it works from behind the scenes.

You know, there's no gatekeeping because this is my brother. He's going to tell it to me how it is. Even things I didn't want to hear, but they obviously work. So it put a little bit of pressure on me. But once I've realized to, again, accept help where needed, it put me in the right direction. And I'm able to cut so much more corners. Like me and you met because that was the event, that was his. Yeah.

You know, so that all just took me saying yes. So again, coming back out here, I wanted to scale my business and kind of just like, how can I incorporate, you know, what could be seen as a curse, but as really a gift into my future? Because I have to live with this the rest of my life. And it's a blessing, and I want to show people that. So how can I incorporate pace, fitness, overall health, and just the technology behind it and religion as well? It's a beautiful mission, man. beautiful mission. So, you know, you're young, you're building from scratch, and you're in L.A. What's been the hardest part of staying consistent in keeping your mission clear?

I would say there's a lot of distractions in California. You're in L.A. You're in Woodland Hills, so it's not that distracting. Yeah, but Woodland Hills is very suburban, and I'm used to suburban, so I will leave the suburbs. L.A. is everything that they say it is, positive and negative, but more positives. The opportunity out here is just... Unreal. Yeah, it's unreal. I'm going to make a suggestion.

Get out of the L.A. and come to Newport. If you want the ultimate opportunity. Yeah, okay. Because this is where it's had. This is where all the people from L.A. are moving. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I see why.

So far, the drive here was amazing. Yeah, well, wait until you spend your day out here, and you'll kind of be like, Joe's right. But I've done a podcast with someone I look up to a lot named Larry Sands, and he's the founder of a company called Chrome Harbor, arts. Oh.

Like the actual chrome hearts? Like the chrome arts? Yeah. Wow. But he founded the glasses portion. Yeah. What's his name? I forget the other guy's name.

I always work. I'm a big fan collector of the glasses. Anyways, I did a podcast with him. He's 86. Oh. And he's in great health. Yeah. So he's 49.

He still works every single day. And I asked him, I said, Larry, what's the best place in the world to live? Because he's 86. He's traveled. the world he's been a rock star for you know 60 years and he said there's two places that number two was um monaco monaco a little town outside of monaco like in the hills and then number one he said was lito which is you know lito in newport beach yeah um which is little island where he lives

on the water it's called lito village yeah which is a great place by the way josh altman i saw him last week um big from the show uh lined all this and he lives in lito as well but yeah i mean you know It's an amazing place. The weather's amazing. I suggest you guys go there, go have lunch on, you know, in Lido Village. That's where you will. Your first stop should be. Okay.

Maybe hit CDM after. You'll kind of see like, oh, wow. Yeah. Definitely will take that. Huh? I definitely would do that. So you're traveling, you don't know what you don't know. Yeah, exactly.

And, you know, I'm going to tell you from the people I've interviewed, you know, like who are people I've, you know, I've interviewed so many different billionaires and so many different, you know, founders and I always ask like what's your favorite place to live you know what's your favorite place to visit and uh and it's just intriguing some of that it someone that's that that's that age with that much knowledge and wisdom yeah out of all the places in the world and all the places of the world you know he has done a million fashion shows right yeah so yeah he picked lito of all places which is where I live so I'm like I agree though I always knew that in my heart The hearts.

I just kidding. Did you know that before moving Toledo or it took you like actually being there? I mean like the weather's amazing. The water's right in front of you. The people all take care of themselves. There's just a ton of, I just walked downstairs. There's restaurants. There's coffee shops.

There's, you know, everyone's walking the dog. Everyone's in a happy mood. Everyone's like out exercising. It's just, you know, the vibe is like everyone's successful and, you know, works their tail off. So there's the hustle kind of culture that New York has. but it's more laid back. Yeah, okay, so it's not just laid back. Yeah, it's the best of both worlds right there.

Yeah, kind of like the best of both worlds. So you kind of have the... So a lot of folks from the Palisades have moved here to Newport Beach. Obviously, as you know, and from Malibu as well. Yeah. And there's a reason why. I mean, they left the Palisades. Like, these are the wealthiest people in L.A.

Yeah. So they all came to Newport. It's kind of crazy. Like, if you weren't affected by the Palisades, how quickly life just goes back to normal for you. like the whole city of LA was basically on fire and then like a couple months later forget about it

yeah you know I like to say in that God was sending a very very serious message to LA you know he was sending a very serious message to L.A. And it woke some people up and some people just blamed it on natural causes I think it was God talking L.A.

Yeah it takes a certain type of person to look at it that way too. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. I agree. But we all know like God was speaking to LA. It was not normal. That was not like...

That was not normal at all. That was not normal. So what do you think makes your training approach different? Not just the exercises, but the emotional and spiritual foundation behind it. Taking the time to understand, like, it's all about balance. So I think with a lot of other personal trainers, it's just about the physical aspect. but I always ask my clients, you know, what is your life like? What are things that would stop you from coming here?

If they're comfortable talking about it, what's your spirituality like? What's your family life like? Because, again, it's beyond just lifting heavy weights. It's about longevity of life and to be able to just simply walk around. You know, I kind of changed my whole workout routine. I don't lift super duper heavy anymore. You know, as most men were happy with lifting 315 pounds. You know, on the bench press, I've done that already, and it's like, okay, well, doing this

long term is going to put a lot of stress on those tendons. And you see a lot of bodybuilders now, they can barely walk in their 40s and 50s because their training has never been correct. And I think this is a society where we're all about getting big, but we don't care how quick we get big and we don't care about the health behind it. Me, keep it simple, keep it natural. You know, your health, your diet is super important. Your mental is super important because if you go in feeling good, you're able to

to perform a lot better. And also, the gym is a way of therapy for a lot of people, you know. So I think everything that I said all kind of circles into each other. Religion, gym, your family life. If all those things can be on the same playing field, you're able to reach that full potential a lot quicker. So once I was able to answer a lot of those questions and bring it all together, I just felt a, I don't know, a shift in my energy for sure.

like I want to get up in the morning. You know, there's no need for me to be sleeping until 10 a.m., especially at 26 years old. You know, I know what type of life I want. And while I have all this energy, young energy, let me use it to progress myself so I can live a life where I can just lay back. You know, so I think the gym has helped me with that mindset a lot more. Because I think people just kind of keep it as, oh, it's just a gym, that's it.

I know this can take you so many places. Yeah. It's a lot more. So you have a true holistic approach. Yeah, for sure. So I think just taking the time to talk to my clients, not just three, two, one, all right, see you next week. It's like, no, you're going to get something more than just being tired with me. You're going to feel good mentally. And I think me being relatable, again, having my pacemaker really opens people's eyes. It's like, because sometimes we need to see it before we just open up to people. And for me, you can see it right through the shirt. How can you scale that, though, and make it like more of a macro approach? that's the big question and i think that's what kind of led me here um and i think it's okay to say you don't know um but the direction that i'm going it's kind of happening before my eyes and i don't

think it's a question i really asked myself god's just kind of showing me the way and i'm just saying okay let me take that step before i don't see the stare i love that answer now you you've said the story it's always god's timing how does your faith shape the way you lead the way you train the way you show up for people um again when i speak to people i speak to the god in them um you know i don't hate people we can hate what they do but i don't hate people so learning to have more patience with people um has definitely helped me shake the right hands a lot more and just create an energy around me that people are attracted to so not only do i have the story but i can make it more relatable because whether it's a pacemaker or some a death in the family and whatnot

not we're all going through something. And I think through my journey, I've been able to express myself a lot more easier. A lot of people struggle with expressing themselves and just talking about what affects them in their daily life. Me, you can ask me anything you want. And I'll tell you, you know, and I think that's refreshing for people to hear because we wear a lot of masks, especially in today's world, you know, all about the clicks and the likes and the best picture, you know, we post on our page, but we don't really post what we're really going through. So I kind of see through that. and I think I've become a lot more relatable to people. The Instagram Society.

Yeah, the Instagram Society. It's a very good thing. It can also be a curse. Now, what's your advice to someone who's been hit with a setback, physically, mentally, spiritually, and they don't know how to start over? First, become grounded. Like, look at your surroundings. Be thankful, you know, because, again, you're alive to talk about it.

And what's, you know, better than life. nothing. So to be able to talk about whatever that you're going through is a blessing in itself. So I think you have to remind ourselves that we are blessed. Look at the people around you who want to help you. It's okay to receive help. And just tell yourself in the mirror that it is okay. You know, there's nothing too big for you to handle. And I think that if we had a life where we had no issues and nothing happening, it'd be super boring. And you couldn't have the opportunity to grow as a person. I can talk about all the things that I've been through in my life, but also how that's helped me get to where I am now. It wasn't just like, oh, why God, why did you

do this to me? I found a blessing in it, you know, because it's easy to just latch on to how it affects us, but what can this do for me? You know, so throughout that hard journey, I would say patience is something that definitely was a big thing for me. I had no patience before. Now I think before I speak, I don't just act off of emotion because it's normal to feel a certain way, but let me just blurt out how I just feel. Let me take a second to really understand what's going on and how to progress. And I think that comes with being grounded as well. Now, a couple last questions.

What's a personal goal that you have for yourself, a family goal you have for your family, and then a business goal you have for Pace Fitness? Okay, so the first one is a personal goal. Just continue to keep doing the best I can and understand that Pace yourself. no rush. Whatever is supposed to happen for, you're supposed to happen, but make sure you're doing the work on the back end. So I'm happy with where I'm going because I mentally feel the best I've felt in a while. And before, I kept trying to rush to get to where I'm supposed to be at 30 years old.

But in doing that, I'm forgetting that these years right now are the most important. Like, these are going to shape me to be 30 years old one day. I can't just skip to 30 years old. Like, let me enjoy these years. So just slowing down has definitely. helped me a lot and make me feel more comfortable with where I am because where you are is not all you are. Just the change that I've made in the last two years is incredible. I never saw myself even being here right now, you know, two or three years ago I was sitting on my butt in a whole different state, but here I am and, you know, close to Newport, the place to be. So, and that was all just talking to God, including him in your everyday mission because you're not doing it by yourself.

family you know continue to push my immediate family like they've pushed me I understand the importance of family because I couldn't imagine doing that all by myself even though I felt that way at some point that was on me but they always did their part and that's why I thank them so I was like okay well how can I do this for my family one day literally the building blocks is what I just saw

if I do the same thing I did with me put that onto my family you can break generational curses you know and you want to bring a healthy base maybe into the world one day, you know, and I think that comes with a lot of your spirit. And from my business, I would say a huge goal of mine is I've always had a goal to work with the brand who put the pacemaker in my body. I would love to be the face of it, you know, because I think it, I look different than most people you would expect to have a pacemaker.

I have neck tattoos. I'm doing muscle ups. I'm 26 years old. I got it at 16. I think that's the most diverse you can get, you know. So that's definitely a huge goal of mine. But also just take this around the world, you know. People are going through something anywhere in the world.

I just happen to be here in California, but the word travels, God words travels. And we're in 2025, and there's many ways to get a message out there. So I definitely want to take advantage of that. One last question for you. When you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you? Welcome home. Welcome home. You did a great job.

Shane, you've been such a pleasure to have on the show. If people want to connect with you, how do they find you? You can follow me on any platform, Pacemaker Shane. Very simple. Facebook. Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat. It's C-H-E-N-E, though. C-H-E-N-E.

C-H-E. I messed that up because it sounds like Sheney. It's okay. Story of my life. FaceMaker Shane, pace fitness. Thanks for being on the show today. It's been a pleasure. God bless you.

I hope you hit all your goals. Continue to dominate. And I look forward to seeing what you can do for helping so many people in the future. God bless, man. Thank you, Joe. Pace maker Shane. Make sure to follow him. God bless.

Thank you.