Coffeez with Joe Shalaby - Rewire Your Brain, Rewire Your Life ft. Dr. Alok Trivedi (Dr. Rewire) | Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby
Episode Date: April 25, 2025In this episode of Coffeez for Closers, we sit down with Dr. Alok Trivedi—better known as Dr. Rewire—a former chiropractor turned behavioral neuroscience expert who’s helped over half a million ...people rewire their brains for performance, clarity, and personal transformation.We talk about how trauma wires your mind, why most people unknowingly sabotage their success, and how Dr. Rewire helps high achievers break through mental and emotional blocks. He’s worked with Fortune 500 execs, pro athletes, entrepreneurs—you name it.Dr. Rewire also walks us through the results of Joe’s personal DNA rewiring session—what it revealed, what it means, and how real change starts with reprogramming your biology, not just your habits.This episode is packed with mindset tools, clarity bombs, and a whole new way to think about success, burnout, and rewiring your reality.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Forget what you know about mindset, hustle, and personal development because this episode
rewires it all. Dr. Alok Trevedi, aka Dr. Rewire, is one of the world's leading authorities
on human performance and emotional biohacking. His clients, Fortune 500 execs, elite athletes,
founders, and high performers who are done with burnout and ready for real transformation.
His method, 27 plus years of research, 92 proven brain rewiring techniques, and a simple mission
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and stop building someone else's empire. Thanks, Joe. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it,
I'm absolutely. Thank you for flying in. I'm excited for a couple reasons today. One, we're going to go over
my own results of my DNA test. And two, you know, you're going to just be dropping so much wisdom
on folks about, you know, what they can do to really improve their health, rewire their own brains,
and, you know, improve their cognitive function.
think so. I think that the listeners are going to be able to take some actionable tools to be able to take into life to, A, get more energy, be able to do things they want to do, get better sleep, and ultimately perform better. That's why we're here today.
We're going over this. This is your results for today? That's my copy.
Start every episode with, and this is something I'd be fascinated with you specifically about, is what is your morning routine?
Yeah, so for me, it's changed quite a bit over the years. I was a type of individual, like many entrepreneurs, right? I've run businesses.
have my own business, have businesses of my own.
It's like, I've got to do more, I've got to make sure I'm so on top of the game,
got to have everything right.
And I realized that that was actually causing me more ailments and challenges
than actually really getting me to a place of optimization.
So my daily routine changes.
And what I mean by that, it changes day to day,
meaning that not every day has to have the same routine.
There's certain days I want to turn the body, the system on in a higher fashion,
and there's certain days I want to turn the body off
and get it to be more in a calmer state.
Because we can't be on all the time, right?
Like one of the things that people, entrepreneurs, like, I got to coal plunge every day,
I got to train every day, that's actually not healthy for you.
What I've realized over the years in this concept of neuroflexibility,
which we'll talk more and more, is that you have to be able to understand
when you turn the body on and off.
So to answer your question, the days that I really turn on the system,
every day I start my morning with a five to ten minute meditation to get me into my own flow
state, to get my mind in the state of gratitude.
you know, Tony calls it priming.
I call it rewired, rewired thinking, rewired reset.
And so I sit with this rewired reset every morning and just center myself.
Next thing I do is I go and I get my, I start my day with protein and oats every day before I go train.
And then I go to the gym.
I spend 90 minutes pretty much in the gym.
I do 30 minutes of training, lifting.
And then I do 30 minutes of cardio.
That's my morning.
And then I'll come back and I'll actually do some rewiring work on my brain, setting myself up for the day,
which usually takes me about 15, 20 minutes at this point.
that's my day to day.
You're rewiring work.
What's that look like?
Yeah, I look through my days.
Yeah, so I look at it.
You know, most people are going into their entrepreneurial day thinking, I'm going to be positive.
I'm going to look for all these positive expectations.
That's stupid.
But bottom of mind, that's actually a stupid idea for your brain and your health.
What I do is I look and say, you know, how centered can I stay?
Look, the reality is we're always going to have challenges.
We're always going to have things that are coming at us.
But the more we can pre-predict the challenges and navigate how we handle those
challenges, the more of those challenges are preventing us from getting us off course and staying
off-centered. So what I do is I look and say, all right, let's not be positively delusional.
What are the challenges that are going to hit me today? Well, I've got to have this conversation
with an employee. I've got this conversation with a salesperson. I've got to, whatever it is,
all the challenges, you list them out. And then I sit and say, okay, how is this going to help me grow
the company? How is this going to help me grow my brand? How is this going to help me gain more
wisdom in my life. And all of a sudden, this big daunting, challenging task that's releasing
more cortisol in my body now becomes calmer, more grounded, and it's something that I just,
it's an action step I walk through. So I call it active visualization at the same time, because
you're actually seeing what's going to happen and then controlling that environment, at least
organizing that environment so you don't get stressed out about it. Active visualization. Okay. And is that
also in a meditative position that you're doing that? No, that could be me, me and just a piece
paper working through it. That's very cognitive. I sit down and I say, okay, what are my challenges? I
listed out. I have a manual that I've never actually published or printed for anybody, but I have
my own rewire manual that I've created for myself to keep control of my mind. And it's something
that my people are asking for, like, I want that rewired manual. How do you do that? So it's like I
literally have my things listed out. And one of the biggest things on it in the morning is, okay,
here are the challenges I'm going to expect. How does this connect to my mission? And how is going
through this challenging connecting my mission.
Because there's a saying in neurology and the way that the brain is designed, if it's on
the way, your brain coordinates and coordinates the nerves to get you to move forward.
If it's in the way, you feel it that's something that's stuck in something hard and an obstacle
you have to go through.
So in order for you to be able to move towards what you want, every obstacle challenge
circumstance has to be driven to take you towards where you ultimately want to go.
That's called the brain.
It's the telencephalon or the telos, as the Greek would call it, or in language,
is prefrontal cortex in the science.
Yeah, I mean, it's just like what you're doing right now is just so next level.
So where was this all birth from?
How did you come up with this idea that just rewire the brain?
You know, I started working with patients, and I started seeing with patients that their bodies
weren't healthy, and they would come in, and I was fortunate enough to build one of the
largest healthcare centers in the world.
we were seeing 12, I was seeing 1,250 people a week, which was a lot of people, physically
really, really draining.
And what I realized is that most people that were coming in were having problems, but they
were psychological and not physiological.
And people would come in complaining about their mortgage payments or complaining about
relationships, and their back would hurt, their neck would hurt, their shoulders would
hurt.
And I started developing processes and tools.
I started my career as a physical therapist, went on to chiropractic, and then functional
medicine, functional neurology.
started putting all these pieces together.
And what I realized is that I wonder if we can balance the brain through asking questions.
And so I did.
And so I started asking patients, I said, instead of me touching your body and doing all this
therapy, what if I just ask you some questions?
Because I've always believed that the power that made the body heals the body, we just
have to give it the right environment to do so.
So what if I get you to think in a certain way, in a certain fashion and balance your brain
through thinking?
And all of a sudden, people would get 80, 90 percent better with their back pain.
Their shoulder pain would go away.
And as time has progressed, I've been able to help cases, all types of cases,
cases of irritable bowel disease, Crohn's disease, digestive problems, diabetes, type 1 diabetes, type 2 diabetes.
I've seen cancer dissipate.
I'm not claiming to heal any of that.
I'm not claiming to do any of that.
I'm just saying when the body is able to be put into a state of balance,
you have the ability to heal in such tremendous ways.
And so as that has come along, I've kind of been able to develop these tools and processes,
but I had to go through my own journey of life to become my own patient, so to speak, as well.
and I went through a divorce that was pretty, pretty challenging.
I don't know any divorce that isn't.
And in that, I was stuck.
And I was doing biohacking, Joe, before it was biohacking.
Like, I was doing intermittent fasting, and I had a lemon to eat for four days.
Not because I wanted to, because I had no money.
I'd lost everything.
So I was intermittent fasting before it was cool.
And I did.
And I said, okay, I'm going to sit down and figure it out.
I went through this whole process of journey to figure out the process of rewiring myself.
But I had created a belief in my brain, Joe, that you could have love or money, but not both.
And the brain is not designed for happiness.
It's not designed for abundance.
It's designed for survival.
And so I was going to survive without money unless I changed the way I thought.
And so I sat down that night and I rewired my brain for the first time.
And I'd been making the calls.
I've been doing the work.
like you're in, you know, the industry you're in.
I was in the sales industry at some level,
and I was making 200 phone calls a day,
doing what you're supposed to do, dialing for dollars.
Even as a doctor, I was doing these things.
Everything is sales.
Whether you're a doctor, you're a lawyer,
your mortgage originator.
But this was in a training company.
It wasn't even a practice at the time.
But I wasn't making a single sale.
Three days later after I rewired my brain,
I made my first sale.
I made $180,000.
I was like, huh, that's interesting.
I went back and rewired my brain again.
Two days later, I made $80,000.
rewired my brain again, three days later, I made another $110,000.
I said, there's something to this.
And then I developed now 122 different processes and tools and ways to be able to hack the brain
to be able to create and rewire it, to bring it back to its most powerful state.
And now I've been traveling the world, helping people get to that state and helping their minds and bodies get better.
That is awesome.
And when did you position from rewiring for money to rewiring for health?
I was working with entrepreneurs and they think they want money.
They think they want money and they're chasing money.
But what I realize is that what ultimately everybody wants is their health.
And I realize there's five pillars of what I call unshakable health.
And the first pillar is an unshakable mind.
Second is an unshakable diet.
Third is an unshakable body.
And fourth, unshakable sleep.
And finally, it's unshakable wealth.
But most entrepreneurs are doing it backwards.
They lose their mind.
They're chasing wealth, losing their mind, losing their diet,
losing their body, losing their sleep, trying to go after money.
And when they get their money, they want to get back, their mind, their body, their sleep, their diet.
The reality is that money is a part of life, but if you don't have your health, you don't have your money either.
That's the reality of it.
And we always use Steve Jobs as an example, but it is a very good example.
So you need all of that in order to ultimately live both inspired, fulfilled, and I think to live the healthiest state of your life.
And so we made this pivot to health for that reason really hard because I realize that if I don't teach people how to actually really be healthy, I saw entrepreneurs burning out.
I saw entrepreneurs losing their families.
I saw entrepreneurs living in anxiety and stress, not at being able to sleep.
And they think they want more money.
And all I realized I was doing is perpetuating the problem versus getting to the solution.
What an incredible journey.
And, you know, thank you for rewiring for health because that's just so much more important than money.
I mean, money just goes.
The most important thing we got is our health.
I think so, right?
You and I were talking before the show.
It's like, we can make more money, but you can't make another.
Well, I guess you can make another part of your body with 3D printing coming out.
But I think, like, but you understand the context, right?
It's like, time is not coming back.
What part of your identity do you feel like did you have to dismantle to find this real fulfillment?
All of it.
All of it.
I always like to say my divorce was the hardest time of my life, but it was also the greatest.
time of my life, right? As they say, right, you know, I like to say when people sit and say,
your mess is your message, I don't think your mess is your message. I think the solution to
your mess is your message. And the solution I had to do was become the person I ultimately
wanted to be. And that was to be the guy who educated. And I think like, you know, when people
talk about mission, purpose, you know, their vision, your purpose is where you are, what you're
doing at this current movement. But your mission of what you want to do in your life, what
you want your life to mean to represent, everybody knows it. The people who are you,
sit and say that, oh, I don't know what it is. No, you're just afraid to say it. I had to actually
say it to myself, this is what I want my life to mean, or this is what I want my life to be,
because if I don't live it, no one else is going to. And it's so allowed me to actually step
into that and using my kids as my motivation, not my excuse, saying, I can't because of,
well, I have to because of, right? I have to show them what that's possible. And my divorce was
that place where I lost that identity of, you know, being a solo practitioner, right? Not a solo. I
at a big clinic, but being in practice.
I sold my practice, got rid of it, and saying, okay, I'm moving into the space of an educator
and a business person and that.
And that's really where I wanted to be.
I knew that identity of myself had died and I had to let the next identity show up.
If that makes any sense whatsoever, I hope it does.
But that's kind of what was the big thing, is I had to make a shift from a practitioner to an educator.
Now what do you say your purpose is?
Now my purpose, I don't know if I have a new identity.
I don't know if I call it that, but it's still the same.
same in education. I want to help people live the most inspired ultimate life what they want,
and that's going to be when they actually truly understand their health. That's why I created
the brain DNA test. That's why I create the protocols, the tools, the seminars, events. It's to
help people get over their own mind that they don't even realize they have a limitation. They're stuck.
They're working harder, burning out their adrenals, getting more tired, creating more chaos in their
life. When the solution to it is just to rewire the brain in one day, clear it all out, go
forward and live your life.
Because you can.
There's a science to this stuff now.
It's not arbitrary.
It's not a guessing game.
It's not woo-woo or any of that anymore.
There's a system that you can take any person to rewire anything.
What a perfect segue to what we're going to do next.
So I participated in the rewire test, the brain DNA test, and I haven't looked at my brain
DNA results yet.
I've been waiting for you to fly in from Chicago to do this.
I just got them on Friday, so thank you, perfect timing.
Yep.
Let's do this.
Let's dive into my brain DNA.
And I'm a little worried to go over it, you know, in front of the general public, but I'm ready to do this.
You're great.
Before we go through the brain DNA test, let me explain what it's testing.
Right?
Here we go.
The brain DNA test, by the way, right here.
There we go.
The brain DNA test.
Okay.
Right here.
Pretty thick test results, but we're going to bang through this pretty quick.
So what we're doing in it is there's a concept I've created and I've coined
call the term neuroflexibility.
Neuroflexibility means that you can turn your brain on and you can turn your brain and body off.
Ultimately, what we're trying to do is live in a state of homeostasis.
That's balance, right?
We use that term a lot.
But when we become too stress, when we become too anxious, when we have all this pressure,
our society, all this stimulation, EMF, LED walls, all this stuff turns our brain on and
some people can shut their brains off where others can't.
And I did all this work in the brain to realize that, you know what?
Why can some people do this?
Why can some people not do this?
Some people have these parts of the brain that shut off easier, and some people have
shut on easier.
And we have these things called neurotransmitters.
And there's big buzzwords, so I want to use them, you know, called dopamine, norepinephrine,
epinephrine, glutamate.
These are the things that turn your brain on.
When we have neurotransmitters more like serotonin, or gastronin, or, you know,
GABA or TPA, these are the things that turn the brain off.
And what we're doing on a day-to-day basis is turning on and off the brain, how it's
responding to life.
If we can naturally turn the brain on easier, fantastic.
Someone who can do that easy is going to be naturally motivated, is going to be more inspired
to get up in the morning and do the things that they want to do.
Their need for a morning routine is not necessary for everybody.
It's the same.
For someone, and someone who can't turn their brain off is going to sit and say,
I lay in bed and I can't go to sleep.
I'm sitting there thinking about all the things I've got to do tomorrow.
My brain just doesn't shut off.
Or, for example, someone who has a hard time turning their,
who's always brain is on, they're going to get up at four in the morning,
and their brain is going to go ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping,
I've got to think about all the things I'm doing because they're all stressed out.
All of these, this inability to balance and adapt, this neuroflexibility,
is creates illness and disease.
And so the purpose of the test is not to diagnose you,
but it's to give you a blueprint of how you should live
that's going to optimize your health.
For example, if your brain turns on so much easier,
then you are going to activate what's called your sympathetic nervous system.
If your brain shuts off easier,
you're going to be easier to activate the parasympathetic nervous system.
Both of these have to be in balance, no matter what you do,
to live optimally.
To have true longevity, you have to have these in balance.
If not, we're taking supplements, pills, potions, hacks to manipulate that.
But first, we need to know where we're starting, right?
For example, I'll use coal plunging as a great example.
Some people should not coal plunge every day because it activates your noropenephrine
and dopamine neurotransmitators.
But what if you already make it naturally high, then what you're going to do is you're going to put your car in a red line
versus an RPM or 5, 6, or 7.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Right?
Most of us as entrepreneurs, what we're doing is we're doing these biohacking things to redline our body.
And that red line creates cortisol.
And that cortisol creates inflammation.
Inflammation creates illness.
So when I came up with this idea and this test, I said, what if I get to the core cause
and the root state of someone's health and then use biohacking to implement, to balance
and optimize someone's system.
That's the purpose of the test.
Does that make sense?
Sort of.
I wasn't the greatest scientist.
You get it.
My point is that if your brain is naturally ability to turn on or turn off, you want to be
able to dance in both.
Okay.
If you're too rigid.
And achieve this homeostasis.
Just the balance of flow, right?
This is the flow state.
If any side's too rigid, there's no flow.
That's what we want to do to make sure that we're in the flow.
Make sense?
Gotcha.
So in brain performance, we look at four pillars.
What I realize is that you look at mindset motivation,
and there's certain neurotransmitters look at that mindset motivation.
Then we look at your ability to connect, your oxytocin.
You've heard of oxytocin, right?
A father's child, mother, child, connection that's important.
But what I found is the ability to connect to yourself.
Oxytocin is more about the ability to connect to yourself than just people around you.
Third, we look at is your stress response.
How do you handle stress?
Naturally, do you handle stress well?
Is it easier for you or is it difficult for you?
This is an important part of the process as well.
And fourth is your ability to sleep and recover.
All of these work together.
There's no one thing that's better, one thing's worse.
Everything works in a conjunction and a process to make you, you to optimize you.
So let's go through the test and explain what it means.
Sound good?
Let's dive in.
What we're testing here is the SNPs, the gene snips,
on which are correlated to your mindset and motivation.
So the first thing we look at is your mindset motivation score, right?
And this mindset motivation score, you naturally are really good naturally,
mindset motivation.
I mean, you have no choice when you were a CEO.
Well, the thing is you'd be surprised, right?
You are a CEO because you're naturally motivated.
It's a very big difference.
You have the ability to have this.
And so you have a 65% ability to motivate.
So this is what turns your brain on.
Okay.
This is mindset motivation as neurotransmitters like dopamine, epinephrine, nor epinephrine.
This is the part that says, okay, I get up in the morning, I go.
I'm ready.
I'm active.
My brain is moving.
Yeah.
I wake up at 5.30, 5 o'clock and it's like my feet hit the ground and I'm running.
Right.
That's because of this exact level, the mindset motivation level.
So do you get tests where it's like 10% or 15%?
So I'll give you my test.
Okay.
My test is 33%.
So you need to.
need like a shakeup in the morning. No, I don't need a shake up in the morning. I need more
work on my mind than you do naturally. I have to work that morning routine you asked me about.
If I don't do that, I will naturally turn into a blob. You see my point? Because it's about
this is what you're naturally born with, but then what hacks do you need to do to be able to optimize
your body? But I can get this to 100%. This is never going to change, but the lifestyle that I'm
giving you're going to put in front of you is going to get you to function more at 100% yes right
because you have what's called epigenetics epigenetics means the things that you do to biohack
right yeah like exercise diet lifestyle sleep the foods that you eat the coffee that you drink
all these things right so someone who has a higher level of mindset motivation that means
your sympathetic nervous system turns on and your body's ready to go example you get up in the
morning you're ready to go no big deal
no problem. You have energy through the day. You probably lay a bed at night and your brain doesn't
shut off. You've got things going on. You're always analyzing. You're thinking through things
and you're assessing circumstances. You get an idea and you bounce and you move. Am I correct?
I'm saying that? That is your personality because of this DNA. Your brain says, I'm ready to go.
Let's go. And then you add in, okay, now I've got to do these things to be healthy because that's
going to optimize me. Certain things, yes. You naturally have that ability. If I did it,
I'd get up in the memory, like, oh, man, what do I, what do I want to do?
What is it I do now?
I'm tired.
My brain won't do it naturally because I don't make dopamine as easy.
I don't do those things easily.
So I have to do more work.
So this will be like this forever until I die?
Yeah, that's it.
That's your DNA.
So I will always be just bouncing off the walls.
No.
So that's where caffeine comes in.
That's where these stimulants come in.
Okay.
When you start taking a stimulant in your body,
you're putting more the system to turn on,
which puts it more into the red line.
So when you're drinking caffeine,
putting neurostimulants, energy drinks,
not that I have a problem against them,
at the right time, at the right usage.
If you overuse it especially,
you're going to put your body into a redline.
And then your system is going to redline,
cortisol is going to release stress and inflammation follow.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Right?
So we look at...
I don't do energy drinks, though.
Sorry?
I don't do energy drinks.
Whatever the case.
You understand my point, though, right?
but for someone like you,
you would not,
I would not recommend you do exercises like hit.
I would not recommend
that you do high intensity training
every day by no means.
Something like CrossFit for you
would not be the best solution.
It would not be the best solution for you.
I do hit,
but I do weight train.
I do hits about two to three times a week
and then heavy weight training.
I would bet you if you toned it down a bit,
if you weight trained three times a week,
two to three times a week,
heavy, lift.
I want you to lift for sure.
I want you lift. But if you did light walks and low zone two cardio, three days and you did your hit one day a week, you're going to get better gains and better performance.
Because your nervous system is not going to be on burnout. When you do hit, you're putting your body into an active state that sympathetic turns on. It's going to rev. Right. So if you look at the protocol that's listed out there, it says you the exercise recommendations, right?
The exercise recommendation, light swimming 30 to 40 minutes, weight train three to four times.
a week, no problem, but I want you to adjust
intensity and actually go
much more lighter. Adding a
thing of yoga once a week,
watch your mind just clear out.
It'll completely clear
out, and your brain clarity is going to change
because of this, because your nervous
system is going to start to regulate because of that.
This brain healthy diet applies to
pretty much everybody. It does.
There are certain parts of it, though. Certain people
will be, certain recommendations will be
if they need more serotonin, they need
more triptophan, but
whole food diet is the key to the bigger part of it.
But protein levels, depending on your protein level as well, depending on your brain and
what levels you're at.
So it seems like it's, oh, it's the same.
No, it's not.
It's actually much more specific to an individual.
So let's go to your relationships and connection.
You excel here, my friend.
I would bet you that your team, your staff, your employees, your kids, the people in
your life love you.
Yeah, yeah, that's one thing that God definitely blessed me with is the ability to create
relationships.
Yes.
You are brilliant at it because if you look at your oxytocin level, the OXTR gene snip,
you actually have a really good, you had 100% on your ability to connect with people.
That's, now we don't ask our ex-spouses.
That's not who we ask, right?
That's not the person to talk to you.
But on a general basis, you actually do really, really well with your ability to connect with people.
Right, that's why I'm here.
I flew across the country because I connected with you.
You're like, hey, would you come out?
Yeah, I'd come out for you, Joe, right?
I don't do that for everybody, because your ability to connect with people, and that's what makes you such a great CEO.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
I even know there's a test for that, but that's pretty amazing.
And it hits the nail on the horn, and I think that that's one of the only things that I've been blessed with, but I didn't know that's one of the four pillars.
No, you're blessed with all of them.
That's the cool thing.
That's the thing, right?
If we go to stress response, now this is where you don't really do as well, right?
your ability to respond to stress
you have 43%
in your ability to respond to stress
on the test that I've done
the average I would sit and say it's probably in the 50
to 60 range in the ability you're a little bit
lower in that so when you get stressed
your brain turns
on and you have a hard time shutting
it off yeah and you will
overanalyze you'll overthink
and you'll even move yourself into what
personal development likes to call the paralysis
of analysis at some component would you agree
yeah and because of that
What you're going to end up doing is you're going to say,
should I do this, should I do that?
And you're going to second guess yourself all day long.
And that's second guessing yourself is because when you get stressed,
you take it out on yourself and even sometimes the people that you love at the same token.
Would you agree with that?
Definitely on myself, but I've found myself like, you know, always seeking ways to de-stress.
Yes.
Which cause vices, which interrupt my relationship with like, you know, with God.
you know so it's a constant battle for me you know just to like because ultimately i'd love to live like
a monk but that's impossible because i stress out too easy well that's but that's what it is right at a
43% score right one of the things that i would tell you that's important to include in your lifestyle
is that component right instead of let me biohack and do everything to do more one thing one of the
things that I've got to train you to do and help you do, and I will, is to shut it off,
tone it down, because you're going to perform better when you allow that side of your brain
to be activated.
You're going to handle stress differently, allowing some meditation, some of the rewire protocols,
I'll work with you on some of the rewire meditation, things like that, to bring into your system.
You're going to find that the whole system starts to calm down and re-regulate.
And this got-a-go mentality won't be that.
It'll be like, you know what?
There's a flow, and I'm in that flow.
and there's that balance state.
Right now, when things come at you, it becomes, okay, I got to de-stress.
What if you didn't have to de-stress, you could just allow the flow be the flow,
so you don't have to actively think about de-stressing.
That's more of the place of really healthy living.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
That's more of it, which really leads to our third or, excuse me, fourth and final component,
is your ability to sleep and recover.
This is a terrible score.
This is not the best of scores.
This is not the best of scores, right?
Wow.
This is a 23.
What this tells me is you have a GAD1, which is your GABA neurotransmitter.
It doesn't turn on.
So remember I was saying, it's like, cool, I'm a CEO.
I can go out and do things.
But when I go home at night, it's, I'm really good at connecting, but I'm always in my head.
I can't get out of my head.
And I can't get my brain to shut off.
You'll lay in bed.
You'll try to do hacks.
You'll need melatonin.
Or you try to do all these things to try and shut that brain up.
off, but I would suspect that the quality of your sleep struggles.
Yeah, I mean, today was a great score.
I got an 84%.
Yesterday was a 73.
There's days I'll get 65s.
70.
I think they sent me my quarterly report today, and I think I average like a 75 or 80.
I average 96.
I never.
I've gotten my highest in the quarter was a 93.
I average 96.
So how do I do that?
Well, that's what we got to do.
That's what we got to.
And this component of sleep, and I'm glad there's so much research.
being done. I don't know what system you're using to measure it, right?
I'm the same one. We're on the same one. The aura or the ultra human? I'm using the aura.
Oh, okay, great. Are you using the aura? I use the ultra human.
Oh, yeah. I remember you mentioned that as a study, there's a new company out of India.
Yeah, they're really good. You can get them, they're starting to make a lot of movement.
I like, I like their testing in that and I like the stimulation response.
But at home, I have the eight sleep bed as well. What's that? The eight sleep mattress?
You haven't heard of that? Oh, man, it's so good. I tell you, that's the best sleep hack I
I could ever recommend.
And I'm not affiliated with them.
Nothing.
I have no contact with them.
Isn't like a $40,000 mattress?
No, no, no, no, no.
It's two grand.
It's two to three grand, something like that.
But it's a cover and it adapts to the body temperature.
It goes on the mattress.
It goes right on the mattress.
Mattress topper.
And the temperatures change and it vibrates.
Get you if you're snoring to move.
My snoring has gone down tremendously.
But I've lost a bunch of weight and everything with it too.
But on average, I never had a problem sleeping.
because my brain turns off easy,
but I don't turn on as easy.
So I have to do more work in the morning to wake up.
You have to do more work at night to shut off.
You see the difference?
Yeah.
That's the customization of our health
that we have to understand in this biohacking game.
Is that, Joe, you don't have to do as much in a morning routine.
What I need you to do is an evening routine.
Yeah, my morning routine is like clutch,
even though I've been like dialing it in for a while.
No, we got to get that evening routine.
I don't have an evening routine.
This is my point.
Right? That evening routine is going to be more important for you to rebring the morning routine.
You know what's the key to going to sleep? It's the morning, right?
Yeah.
Like when you get outside and you get your sunlight first thing in the morning, that sets the circadian rhythm for when you go to sleep at night.
Sure, absolutely true. Okay, what's going to set up your morning routine is your evening routine.
It's contrary to what people think. Go out, have a big dinner, and have a couple tequilas.
let me know how your morning routine goes.
It's going to suck.
It's going to suck.
I mean, ever since I went to Brian Johnson's summit,
and I've just been trying to really mitigate my last meal.
Yeah.
You know, and when I do have a late last meal,
like we just finished the Great Lent fast,
and a lot of the times I'd be having late meals,
and it would always throw off my meals.
Even if it was late, like a vegan meal at the end of the night,
it's like one hour before bed.
Still messed me on.
Yeah.
That's because of your system.
That's because of your system.
If I'm looking at your DNA, you fasting is easy.
You fasting is easy because you digest food in the parasympathetic nervous system,
which is called a rest and digest.
So a diet like yours and a lifestyle like yours is you want to make sure that you doing carbs is not a great thing.
Because your parasympathetic doesn't come on too high.
You are sympathetic easily.
So more of a carnivore-type diet or a keto diet with low-carb,
still having carbs.
I'm not a no-carb guy, but having your carbs in the morning rather than later is better for you.
Also, when you look at your evening meal, it's got to be light.
Your heaviest meals have to be in the morning by far.
But I would recommend highly as you be careful with the idea of over-fasting.
Because you over-fasting is going to create insulin resistance faster.
Meaning people like insulin resistance when you fast,
Exactly.
Because when you fast, you're depleting glycogen out of your muscles.
I never really truly fast.
I have a protein shake to kind of kick things off before the gym.
It's great.
In the morning?
Yeah, in the morning.
Right before my workouts.
Do you put any carbs in it?
No.
That's the problem.
A lot of people are taking protein shakes in the morning because they think, okay, I'm going to work out in a fasted state.
Problem is that when you work out in a fasted state in that you don't actually replenish the glycogen
and your body's working in a sympathetic state.
and you put more stress on the body.
That's why you don't get the gains that you're looking for,
depending on the body, right?
If I went to work out in a fasted state, it'd be okay for me.
You, it wouldn't be as good.
But having a little bit of carbs in the morning before you work out
is actually going to give you better results.
You're going to hold on to that muscle tissue, which is the key.
You hold on to the muscle tissue and you burn fat at the same time
because when you exercise, all that glycogen,
all the sugar is going to go right into the muscles.
You have a hard time shutting your brain off at it.
You have a hard time digesting food.
I would bet that someone with this type of a DNA, you're in your 40s right now,
digestive issues is something you want to think about, right?
It's something that you really want to protect your digestive system.
You really want to make sure that when you have an overactive sympathetic,
it could be what some people will call high blood pressure.
It could be a thing with it, because pressure in the arteries happens because of fat and tissue
or homocysteine, but it also happens when you're stressed, it's a muscle, it tightens up.
And so that can create high blood pressure.
All of these things is to understand that I'm not diagnosing anything, nor am I saying this is
going to happen.
But what I'm saying is that when we don't have this neural flexibility and live in that state,
illness becomes the symptom of an imbalanced body.
What is a good night routine?
It's a great question.
Thank you for asking it.
So someone like you, right, because it's not generic.
This is what I'm saying to everybody.
We all sit and say we're all unique human beings.
Everybody's different, but we give everyone the same protocols.
It doesn't make any sense.
Health care is personalized.
Your life is personalized.
So someone with your protocol, what time do you normally go to bed?
Or try to go to bed.
10 o'clock.
Okay, good.
10 o'clock is good.
I would say 8 o'clock start shutting everything down.
I would do an evening meditation for 30 minutes.
Now, you have four kids, too, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's so hard.
It's harder.
I get it.
And I co-parent and I'm into houses and I'm like, I got activities.
I got sports.
This.
I got that.
It's difficult.
I get it.
My son plays soccer.
I was in Chicago in 40 degree weather for a game that went until 10.30, 1045 at night.
I was like, I never do that.
But that's what time his game went to.
I was like, this is crazy.
That was baseball game?
Soccer game.
Soccer game.
So my God, this is ridiculous.
But it is what it is, right?
So most of the time.
But if you can do, like I, and I also sit and say, don't do anything 100%.
do the 90-10 rule.
Yeah.
What that means is try and get it 90% of the time, 10% it's life.
Things are going to happen.
Yeah.
So an evening meditation.
An evening meditation.
Taking your day and whatever challenges you had in the day, how did that serve your life?
That's a rewire meditation because you're looking at it and saying everything that's happened.
You're now integrating it.
I don't want you to meditate to disassociate.
I want you to meditate to integrate.
Meditate to integrate.
Meditate to integrate because.
So many people are doing meditation to separate.
Oh, I have this stress.
Let me detach from it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't want to detach.
You want to bring that in
and integrate as a part of your life
because there's a lesson in it.
Yeah.
I always look at everything in life,
every challenge as less than as a hurdle.
That's great.
It's a stepping zone.
I agree, completely.
So 30 minutes of that,
calming music, calming your mind.
Definitely red light glasses are going to be huge for you.
I don't know if you wear like blue blockers
or something like that.
Yeah.
But wear them at night at home?
Yeah.
Definitely light to restrict this blue light that comes along.
Super important.
I would sit and say definitely don't eat late at night.
That's another big thing.
I would sit and say that obviously turn your TV, phone, all that stuff off after about 8.30.
Right?
And I think Brian Johnson's that way, too.
Brian Johnson has that, he's the same thing.
He's got the blue light blockers on at night in his bedroom.
Yeah.
Which I never understood the purpose of that.
Because what you're doing is you're preventing the blue light.
light from going into your eyes, which is what turns on the nervous system.
You already naturally, your brain already turns on naturally, easily.
So what we want to do is we want to regulate that.
So it's not always on.
Now it's trying to turn the body to say, hey, it's time to shut off because that's not as easy
for you.
So from a biohacking standpoint, you don't need to turn your body on easily.
You already have that.
You have to do the things that shut your brain off, recovery, leg compressions.
Do you have those compression things at home?
No.
Those would be good for you.
Just put those on?
Yeah, just put those on.
What are those?
Like, massage?
Yeah, what they do is they just move the lymphatic tissue out of your body.
And so what they do is it just leg compressions, that the body relax.
Those are super important.
Something else were like, or these types of parasympathetic stimulators.
There's different companies, no affiliation.
I have no contact with any of them.
But like, Pulsetto's one.
That's a good one.
I was going to look at Pulsetto.
Before I bought Pulsetto.
said, I wanted to try something on Amazon,
that just kind of stimulates here, and it just sends a shockwave.
It's a little uncomfortable.
What it's doing is this is the vagus nerve.
Yeah.
Okay.
And the whole thing, whether you do meditation, whether you're not, whatever sound you make,
you're stimulating the vagus nerve.
And when you stimulate the vagus nerve, it calms everything down.
So all of these devices, in essence, anxiety devices, you'll see them.
Now that I've said that you're going to be like, oh, that's what he's talking about.
That's what he's talking about.
all they're trying to do is exactly what I'm doing here
is saying you know what
your system is too high
let me turn this part of the system out
so that shuts down
so they're saying let's turn the
parasympathetic on by vibrating
what's called the vagus nerve
and this thing goes zzzzzzzzz
and now the whole body starts to calm down
yeah it kind of hurts a little bit the one I bought
I don't know maybe that one's a little bit too strong for you
yeah I'm settings could be I don't know the
yeah I tried it and I'm like okay this is cool
I mean I wore it a couple times
it was basically a neck massager that just had this
Got it, okay
I use Pulsetto, I have one at home, my girlfriend
I got her the Apollo, she, like she said it's Apollo,
she just drops, Apollo's one on her wrist that she likes.
And that's a vibrating, yeah, it's got these different settings,
I haven't studied it too deeply,
but it has these different settings to activate her parasympathetic nervous system
more for her, because based on her brain DNA,
she was super active with this, right?
her brain is super active, so I had to get it to calm down.
My daughter is a great example, right?
My daughter, she was kind of following my protocols for my health, and what I was doing.
I was training twice a day.
I'd walk twice a day.
I'd do high intensity, stair master.
Then I'd be doing, like, cold plunging and all this.
So she started doing this stuff.
And over eight months, I saw my 20-year-old daughter, like, start almost put on all this inflammation.
And I was like, what is going on here?
Why?
Why? She's following my lead. I'm doing this stuff. And I'm like, why doesn't she get these results?
And so I did her DNA test, Joe. And it came back. And I'm like, oh, my God. I said, we got to change your entire protocol.
And I'm like, your DNA is not me, my DNA. Your system is different than mine. I got to change it for you.
And so I said, you got to stop training every day. I said, I only want you to lift two to three days a week.
Do full body lift. I don't care. You don't need to. You're not trying to be a body.
be able to do full body lift.
I said, you're not doing high intensity cardio anymore.
You're literally doing low intensity walking twice a day, 20 minutes morning, 20 minutes
at night.
You are not fasting.
You are literally just eating six times a day, six small meals of what I want you to eat.
You're not sleeping nine hours.
You're sleeping seven hours.
And she's like, okay.
She just told me, she hit the eighth week mark yesterday.
She's lost 20 pounds of inflammation.
Wow.
20 pounds.
And that's a really sensitive topic to talk with a 20-year-old girl.
My daughter and I have a super close relationship that I can, she knows who I am.
And I can address it and be like, honey, like, what's really happening?
Is there something more?
And she's like, no, Dad, I'm doing everything.
And she doesn't drink.
She doesn't party.
Like, that's not her.
She's like, I go to bed.
And we deal most, I want everyone to remember this, wherever you're watching this.
Stress equals fat.
Period.
exclamation point.
So if you have fat on your body,
it's because you have stress from the way that you think.
You have stress from the way that you eat.
It's a stress from your environment.
Thoughts, traumas and things.
So if I de-stress, that'll go down.
You'll lose more fat by de-stressing your body
and increasing your ability to sleep
than working out more, doing more cold plunges into it.
You will actually turn your system into it.
It's backwards.
We are backwards.
in this system right now again i'm not diagnosing somebody but if someone's got like i'm not
but you could tell from here i'm stressed i can tell 100% 100% because your system is red line all
all the time all the time jo's on red line and he seems calm he seems his demeanor so good and he's
really good at connecting with people so he'll go out and he'll say hey look it's so good to connect it's
so great to talk to you inside his brain's like man i got a lot of shit going i got to do this i got
do this. But I'm really good at connecting with you.
Am I correct? Yeah.
That's really, that's 100%
accurate. That's, that's what the DNA
tells me. Yeah. That's crazy
that that's like, factual.
And then at night,
you go, you're like, okay, you go home, you try to relax.
You're like, you can't, your brain's going, then you turn on
the TV, and it's like, your brain goes even more.
I'll turn on the TV and I'll, like,
look at the TV. I don't even know what I'm watching.
Yeah. Because you're so far in your head.
Yeah. Like, same with driving home. Like, I can't even turn on the
radio.
I would bet you don't have to say this out loud.
I would bet there's moments of anxiety in your life.
Now, people are saying, well, you're an entrepreneur as a CEO, that's natural.
Of course it is.
I'm not saying it isn't, right?
And I don't know if you deal with that or not.
Yeah.
But anxiety is not abnormal.
Anxiety is not a disease.
Anxiety is not a problem.
If we understand that anxiety happens when these two are imbalanced, when your system is
turned on too much and it can't shut off.
you will have anxiety as a feedback to let you know that this part is the the parasympathetic balance is not coming into play
anxiety is not a disease it's a feedback we've labeled it wrong so i would bet you are more prone if you
don't that's great but you're definitely more prone to that type of uh those types of symptoms
for sure unbelievable stuff dr reward unbelievable stuff this is like really next
level. Thanks, man. This is really next level. And I mean, I think everybody needs to kind of figure this out on their own.
And this is a new test, obviously. Yeah, we just released it about three months ago.
Yeah, new test. I think it's going to catch, like, wildfire. My stress response is low. My sleep and recovery scores also low because of my stressors.
So you had a high score on this. What was your score? On my sleep and recovery? 79%.
Wow.
So my system is reverse your system.
Yeah.
Right?
So for me, an evening routine is easy.
9.30, 945.
I'm out.
My girlfriend's like, you want to go watch?
No, I'm done.
See ya.
Adios.
I fall asleep.
She lays there.
She's like reading in bed and this and that.
I hear nothing because I'm like, it's time to go.
Within seconds, my body says, time out.
I'm gone.
And I wake up.
I go to bed 945.
I wake up for 545 to 6 a.m.
Every day, I'll get up once to use the,
facilities. I don't have a problem.
But
the morning, it takes
me a little bit to get going. Not really hard
because I'm inspired. I've trained my brain, but
before, right? I was the guy
Joe that needed external
stimulation. I smoked cigarettes.
I drank like a fish. I never did drugs,
so to speak, but I needed
stimulants. I love EDM music, right?
Anything that's going to give me energy, I
need it from the outside.
Yeah. Until I learn to wire my brain
so that I get it more productively,
versus destructively.
And that's why I sought distressers.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
You're naturally looking for it.
Yeah.
Your innate is already saying, I need something to help me calm down from stress.
But now this gives you the objective reasoning why that is.
Yeah.
So what are some good de-stressers that are like sober?
That are sober?
That's good.
L-theonine is a great supplement for that, right?
You have a supplement recommendation.
Once you start taking that supplement recommendation in your test as well,
that's going to help really govern your mind.
It's really going to help you go to sleep.
It's going to turn the system on.
There's some supplements that are like new calm is one of the ones that we use.
Like some of these things, the focus, the things that we've made proprietary as well with this,
you start getting these and it's going to really start setting your system up.
And you start taking that around 8 o'clock at night, you're going to be able to shut that body off much easier.
And what's going to happen, you watch, you're going to text me in two to three months.
And you're like, Doc, I'm down my body fat percentage.
I did a dexia.
I'm down 2 to 3% in body fat.
Because you're actually now able to recover.
People think you lose weight when you exercise.
No, you lose weight when you rest.
You lose weight when you're breathing.
You lose weight in the parasympathetic, not the sympathy.
You need the stimulation of the sympathetic,
but you lose it in the parasympathetic.
That's why bodybuilders know if they're trying to get on a cut,
they sleep.
Sleep is their massive, their hack behind it.
So one of the things, Lthian is a great thing.
Meditation is always going to help be great calm on your mind.
A warm shower before bed.
Right? A warm shower before your bed is super, super valuable.
Sana is very valuable two to three times a week, not every day.
I would say two or three times a week for you would be a good.
I would sit and say, now here's the other part of it, right,
is how you regulate your mind and the environment you're in.
Being able to sit, read a book.
I can't do that.
I know.
That's why I said it.
I know.
I could listen to an audio book while I'm doing something else.
Exactly.
But train your brain.
to just sit on a Saturday afternoon, have the, have the door open, just a nice breeze,
and maybe a decaf latte for you, and just sit and train your brain to think and focus
to read that book for an hour.
Right?
Yeah.
People think, I'm just as guilty as this.
I think I've read 150 books already this year.
Well, I should rephrase.
I've listened to 150 books this year, right?
Yeah.
Because I'm like everybody else.
I want to consume information.
But there's something with reading and that.
the calmness of reading that trains our brain.
I actually don't know what the science behind that is
that allows us to just center and get into the story
which audio books are not doing.
And I think we're losing that in our generation because of that.
You know, actually, while I'm sitting here,
someone for you to follow would be good
is study a little Marcus Aurelius.
There's some authors that always reference Marcus Aurelius.
But his books themselves, Marcus Aurelius,
you know, stoic books like that.
They're very difficult to read.
Yeah.
They're very difficult to read.
But I say that to you because someone like you, even if you read one page but slowly think through that page, it's going to help zone your brain into that.
Versus, oh, I just completed 100 pages.
That's not the objective I'm trying to train your brain to do.
Take that one page and really just sit and think and focus and absorb into that.
That would be a powerful trick.
What a cool concept, guys.
I just brought, this brain DNA test
is revolutionary. Just came out.
I met Dr. Rewire
when he released it.
I'm one of the, you know, probably one of the,
while you're doing this podcast tour,
one of the first people, if not the first podcaster,
you're going over their results in real time?
First, first podcaster,
I'm going over the results in real time.
The people are scheduled to do it,
but no, you're the first one of actually doing it live.
This is awesome.
This is awesome.
And it's so revolutionary.
And it's really going to just,
it's open my eyes up.
to a whole new, you know, to information I never knew existed.
To information I never knew existed.
Now I'm going to just like live and die by this thing here, or try to at least.
It's strict, but it's, you know.
But I think what you'll find, like even in there, right, like it has the rewire tools for you, right?
If you look at the recommendations, it's listed out with all five areas of recommendations.
Diet, exercise, sleep, rewire tools.
If you do that rewire tool every day, you, joke, excuse me, that rewire
tool that's specifically given for your
brain set, you're going to find
that, you know what, my day is actually different.
I'm actually governing my mind differently.
Of all the things, the recommendations
I've given you on that thing, I will
guarantee you the most powerful one is the
rewiring piece.
Where's that at? It's right in the recommendations.
If you look, it's like the fourth or fifth one down.
Oh, okay. Yeah, the rewiring
process. That rewire process
exercise that's given for you
on that is
by far. So this says list
five challenges that you're navigating today.
For each challenge, list at least
one way that's helping you move forward.
And then at nighttime, list who you enjoyed spending
time with today. It's kind of like journaling.
It is, but journaling's
general, let me tell you a story. This is not
that. This is literally, because
in the rewire process, not to go deep
into that, but you're talking about
an event and a motion.
Event and emotion. What we're doing is we're triggering
the brain to activate
different parts of it, to
either turn on or turn off based on the current events of the day.
So you don't get stuck with baggage from the day.
But it seems to be pretty consistent.
The rewiring process, this is what you want me to do every day on every pillar.
Do you work on every pillar independently?
It's a good question.
Depending on where the person's at, someone, like if someone's just getting the test at home
and they're going through it, what I recommend is you take two, three months, focus on one pillar.
And then you take two, three months to focus on another pillar.
This should take you eight months to implement all of it completely.
right is kind of the lifestyle change with it doesn't have to someone like me or someone like you probably
is like you know what I already do a lot of things I can implement a lot of these pieces at the same time
good if you can navigate implementing multiple pieces at the same time do it right I think it's great
but if you need a little bit more time then you take one and say I'm going to focus on that for two
three months then I focus on the next one the whole point is that you have your code
the whole thing with this is I'm trying to give people their code getting their code
to live their life based on that.
Once you know your code,
you can take your time implementing the changes
and as time progresses.
But you will see sleep get better, anxiety go down,
blood sugars rebalance,
blood pressure will change.
You will see losing weight.
You'll see all these things start to happen
when you start implementing these things.
This has just been such an incredible show.
And for myself, for those watching,
for those who are now getting enlightened
as to what's available, how to improve their life, their health,
their overall fitness, their journey, their mindset.
Now, my last couple questions is in regards to your own goals.
Now, what's a personal goal that you have for yourself,
a goal that you have for your brand, Dr. Reward,
and a goal that you have for your family?
That's a great question.
Thank you.
A goal for my brand is that I want to, as crazy as it stands,
I want to step foot in as many countries as I can,
helping people live the healthiest life.
speaking, helping people understand this tool to be able to really create neuroflexibility for people.
And it's getting many tests to people in their hands so that they learn to live their life optimized.
That's really what my main mission is. That's part of the mission of the brand.
You know, I've been fortunate enough to have mentors like Damon John, who works with me directly,
and Dan Fleischman was a friend of ours, and they're helping me do that to get into the hands of more people
because they realize a value of health, more today than ever before, I think.
Personally, my main mission, and like, it's interesting.
It's like when I look at my own life, I look and say, how do I stay centered while I build the brand, my family,
and how do I continue to do that so that I live the healthiest, longest life that I can?
That's just me personally, every day.
I used to set money goals, business goals, all that, and I found that that made me more depressed.
And instead, I can't control all of that.
Those are things that are under my control.
We can chase, you know, I'll do 10 figures, you know, nine figures, a billion dollars.
Yeah, that's great.
Is that going to make me feel inspired?
I don't know.
Having this conversation with you, this makes me feel inspired.
And the more I get to do this, the more I feel more fulfilled in my life.
So if this radiates to the world and it goes to the world, that makes me more fulfilled.
You know, I'm not driven by money.
Of course we need money, but I'm not driven by money.
And for my family, I've got two amazing children, and I want them to live,
they want to stand on my shoulders and live their inspired life,
which gives them meaningful fulfillment and everything they want to.
And, you know, I think that I've created a system and a process
for them to be able to rewire their brains and unlock and move forward
whatever they want to in their life.
They literally are the reasons why I built my whole protocols
because ultimately I'm a dad.
And I said, if I die tomorrow, I want to make sure that I teach my kids
exactly how to master their life.
And that's, and I put that together.
So I have that in a vault for my kids and say,
whatever tool you want to go through, here it is.
Everything you want to navigate, it's right here.
It's a system.
And so for them, it's simple.
My son's a soccer player.
If he wants to take it to the levels of the pros, he can.
My daughter's, my daughter followed my footsteps at some level,
and she's a neuroscientist.
And, you know, she's doing amazing things,
and she wants to practice her world.
But ultimately, I want them to be inspired every single day doing it as they want to.
you know you didn't grow up and your kids are growing up much more fortunate than you yeah for sure how are you
instilling that same level of grit and tenacity and and willingness to kind of achieve to achieve
greatness i don't know that i'm trying to achieve greatness that's the difference i think i was
chasing greatness and it made me more depressed my first book is a book called chasing success
and I realized that the more I chased, the less of myself I became in the process.
My family, you know, my dad and mom, amazing souls, amazing human beings.
You know, they came to this country with $8 in their bank account.
They, you know, they built a life for me in Canada.
I grew up in Toronto.
They worked in a factory their entire life.
My parents are blue-collar people.
And because of their hard work, I'm always humble and grateful for the work that they did
to give me and my, you know, the future generations,
a completely different life.
If I was, if my parents never left India,
I wouldn't be here.
There'd be no this.
There'd be no test.
Like, I am grateful to every,
every, every one of my programs.
If you get touched by the work that I do in my life,
please, you know, say a prayer and thank my parents.
It's because it's the ripple effect of them,
all their years of hard work.
I'm going to cry when I even talk about it.
It's the ripple effect of their work
that allows me to help the people,
way that I do. So how do I bring that into my kids? I keep them grateful. We have a gratitude practice
in my home and it's an exercise we do every holiday. We sit down and I, and if you're watching this,
use this. It's one of the greatest gifts I can I can give anybody is we go around this wheel
and we go through seven times and everybody lists what they're grateful for and we've got to go
around seven times. The first two or three are pretty superficial. You hit that third, fourth, fifth,
sixth, man, that room is, you are humbled in that room. And we do that every, every holiday,
Christmas, and we all get together and it's like, man. And we just, there's this just unification
of love. So gratitude is a key component in my family. Incredible. Incredible. I'm going to use
so many of these practices. This has been such an informative meeting podcast for me. And we got to
dive so deep. I got one last question. Yeah.
Because you live a life of servitude and really like your existence is to inspire others and fulfill others.
When you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you?
I hope he tells me that good job, son, you did your mission.
I love it.
Dr. Rewire, if people want to get in touch with you, order the DNA test.
We're going to leave a link in the video as well.
But how do they get in touch with you?
Yeah, Instagram is the best, of course, right?
But Dr.rewire.com, you know, I have a seminar that I do to help people break through anything they want to in their life.
We have programs.
We have.
But the test is the place to start, right?
You can get that right on my Instagram page if you're interested.
The Dr. Rewire test is also the website to learn more about it.
But it's all kind of everything Dr. Rewires me.
Perfect.
Dr. Rewire, you are the man, the myth, the legend.
Thank you so much for coming and flying down to do this show.
God bless you.
God bless you.
I hope you had every single one in your goals and continue to dominate, inspire, and do that for you.
Thank you so much. Appreciate you, bro.
