Collector Nation - Is the Hobby Recession Proof? Why the Hobby Keeps Growing When Other Investments Don’t

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

In this episode of Collector Nation, Ryan Alford and Brian Ludden break down what’s really happening in the hobby right now—from record-breaking card sales to the surprising resilience of the coll...ectibles market. With over 40 cards already selling for $1M+ this year alone, the question isn’t if the hobby is growing—it’s how fast. Joined by Executive Producer Bella Shafer, the conversation expands beyond the numbers into real-time perspective—blending shop-level insights, collector behavior, and what’s actually driving momentum across the hobby today. The group dives into whether the trading card market is truly insulated from a potential recession, why high-end cards continue to outperform, and how passion-driven collectors are shaping long-term value. They also unpack grading trends, undervalued players, and the evolving role of breaking in today’s market. From Collector Station demand to rapid-fire takes on what to buy, sell, and hold, this episode delivers a full snapshot of where the hobby stands—and where it’s heading next. 🎯 Topics Covered 40+ trading cards selling for over $1M in 2025 Is the hobby recession-proof or just resilient? Why high-end cards outperform during market uncertainty Growth in hobby participation and what’s driving it PSA vs other grading companies and market share shifts Undervalued vs overhyped players in today’s market The role of breaking, flipping, and long-term collecting Insights from Collector Station and live customer demand Rapid-fire: what to buy, sell, and hold right now Sponsors  ONIT– Shop now at onitathlete.com and use code COLLECTORNATION at checkout to receive 15% off your first order! They connect fans and athletes through team-based collectibles. Behind its locally-driven and nationally-relevant products, ONIT creates authentic ways for fans to support the teams and athletes they love. 🤝 Connect with Host & Guests Ryan Alford Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanalford Website: https://ryanisright.com Download Collector Nation App on IOS and Android Brian Ludden (Ludex) Website: https://www.ludex.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianludden Download Ludex on IOS and Android Bella Shafer Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/isabellashafer Producer, Collector Nation

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do you think if there's a recession, what happens to sports cards? The hobby's still growing 27% year over year-over-year increase in hobby participation. So I don't think the hobby's going anywhere. We have been in a negative sentiment environment for like the last 18 months. And the hobby has ignored every bit of it and grown. But a lot of cards that sold for a lot of money last year are selling for even more money this year. So if it sold for $3,000 in 2024, sold for $12,000 in March of this year, 4X in two years.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Did your 401k 4X in two years? I don't think so. I wish it did. Welcome to the Collector Nation podcast here on the Collector Nation Network. Whether you're chasing grails or calling bluffs, you take you inside the hobby. Here are your host, Ryan Alford and Brian Lut. Hey, what's up guys?
Starting point is 00:00:58 We are back with On It. Leonard from the team there, the digital, marketing producer. What's up, Leonard? What's up, Brian? How you doing? It was a great week of college basketball as usual in these tournaments. Hey, man, huge week. A lot of fun. I was watching Clemson baseball. I was a little bit down, but I was actually studying my cards more and appreciating the cards even more. But the big story of the week, honestly, is the basketball. I'm holding today and we'll get to it in a minute. Of course, one of the biggest endings, and I don't know how long the Yukon Huskies men taking down the Duke Blue Devils. What a weekend of basketball,
Starting point is 00:01:40 man. Yeah, crazy stuff there. Unreal ending. I mean, that shot to win the game for Yukon with the scenario they were in down by 1.10 seconds, Duke has the ball. They get his steel, hit a 35-foot logo three to win by one point. I mean, that's got to be up there with like Christian Leitner's buzzer-beater, you know, is some of the best in NCAA tournament history. So, yeah. And I mean, I think the scene, too, of the shot after where Hurley's walking around with half of his jacket hanging off the shoulder. And he's just like swaggering. He got in the face of the ref, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Like, I mean, it's just everything about that was such an iconic moment. That's why I love watching Yukon basketball on both sides because they're just fighters. I love watching. I mean, the women's, you know, the audit teams, I don't know what you guys did. I don't know who you paid off or they're just all the best. but they're all crushing. Yukon, I mean, the average wins, I don't even know what they are. I can't count that high.
Starting point is 00:02:39 The Gamecock women, UCLA, Texas, all these teams still in it. It's been exciting as well. Yeah, it has. UCLA, I think, they scared me a little bit against Duke. They did not look great. They haven't looked great all tournament. I talked about that last week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But they just keep finding ways to get the job done, you know, and that's kind of what we talked about with Yukon there. Like, there's a testament to the UCLA women. They just keep chiving away no matter what has to be done. They all do their jobs. They get the job done. That's why they're, of course, in the final four. You got Yukon on the other side.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Both of those teams are in. We talked about it for weeks now that we think that that's probably going to be the matchup. UCLA won loss all year. It did come to Texas. So playing Texas in the final four, if that's the case for UCLA, maybe they get their revenge. Maybe Texas goes through. I like Texas a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Madison Booker is a very special player. She's awesome. Joyce Edwards at South Carolina, another special player that we've talked about. I think on the women's side, it's really awesome because I don't know about you, Ryan, but I feel like on the men's side, it's definitely more team-based, which I feel like in the past it's kind of been flip-flop. Like this year, on the men's side, I feel like it's very team-based, and there's nobody who is necessarily heads and tails above the rest of the crowd
Starting point is 00:03:51 in terms of they're bigger than their team. But I feel like on the women's side, there are a lot of players that are that big, Sarah Strong, Azey Fudd, Lauren Betts, Gabriella Hakez, Angela, the dugolic like joyce edwards Madison booker there's just so many amazing women's basketball players that are coming through and some of the best guard play that we've seen on the women's side in a long time 100% but i'll tell you what i did grab one of our on it boxes here
Starting point is 00:04:18 figure we do a little unboxing this is the men yukon team any commentary lindard wall i popped this one open yeah let's see who we get i mean there's definitely some big players here for a yukon solo ball terris reed junior who was a monster in that game against Duke. You got Alex Caraband, too. He's been amazing this season. Played his last game for Yukon at home a couple weeks ago. Got inducted to the ring of honor already,
Starting point is 00:04:44 which is crazy to think. Like a guy's still playing. He might play for a national championship, and he's already in the ring of honor. So I love the names in the Yukon men's product. So hopefully you can pull something big. Maybe we can see a nice little auto here. See what we get.
Starting point is 00:04:57 This one feels lucky. I don't know why. I just tell myself those things. Yeah, I mean, you got to believe it, right? That's right. Yeah, Malachi Smith. Jacob Ross. Go ball.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Lane. Jaden Ross. I'm not going to, like, do disjustice to his name. Uh-oh, we got one slipped around here. All right, what do we got? Oh. Oh, nice. Silhouette there.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Nice. Was that the silhouette, and that's who's the player? I don't have my good eyes in. I can't see it from here. Eric, Eric, Rubei. Eric, R-I-E-E. EBE. There we go.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Okay. Not bad yet. Eric Reba. It plays a little bit off the bench. Silas. Oh, yeah. We'll take that. Jalen Stewart and Silas again.
Starting point is 00:05:43 A different variation. Cool. I really love the feel of this silhouette part. Yeah, the silhouette. Yeah, it's got that, uh, swayed, for lack of better word. Yep. Feel. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah, those are one of the, those are one of the base inserts, but they're the shorter printed base inserts. So you don't find as many of those around. People are generally looking for silhouettes. So not too shabby. Yeah. We get here on the next pack. Let's see something huge.
Starting point is 00:06:13 See a banger. Okay. Smith. A couple very different variations of photography in action. There's the same Eric guy that we had. Silas. Hello. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Auto. Boom. Hey, on. Hey, Leonard, you know how to call him there? Out of 1.35 or 195, Bella, is your eyes better than mine. Autograph. And the player's name there, Bella, Silas. There we go, Silas de Mary Jr.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yep, Silas de Mary Jr. That's sweet. Man, that is a cool refractor on that. It's got kind of like a shimmer. I don't even know how I would describe it. How would we describe that refractor I'm seeing there? Yeah, we call it a shimmer auto. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Shimmer auto. Okay, there we go. But now we're getting the color on the thing. Yeah. Very sweet. Hey, look at there, guys. Autographed right out of the box. A couple others here.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Look, they've very cool. I don't know if our camera's picking up the white there. Very cool. Clean. Look. Love it, man. Hey, I'm going to end on a, we'll end it there on a bang. We got the autograph right there.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Only took two packs in. We still got more packs in the box. telling you, these are awesome. If you're a Yukon fan or you're watching this and you're going, hey, they're probably going to win, then you get out there and pick them up because those values are going to increase, and it's a way to document the moment that is an incredible final four for the Yukon Huskies, men and women.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Fun, man. Those are fun to open. Yeah, they're a blast. So we appreciate it. And if, you know, anybody from any of our audit schools ends up winning on the men's or women's side, like we had with the Penn State Wrestling Box we talked about last week, more than likely have championship boxes too. So I can remember it even the whole season.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So we're going to fingers crossed that Michigan, Yukon win on the men's side and then any of those four number one seeds win on the women's side. And then we'll have a bunch of fun with these commemorative boxes too. Get out there and pick them up, guys. You can get them at Cluckter Station. You can find them online and you can find them at many of a retailer's Walmart and some others do carry it. Onit, we appreciate our partnership with them and go support these assets. athletes and the college game with our good friends and on it.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Thanks, Leonard. Really appreciate it, man. We'll see you next week. Thanks, Ryan. What's up, guys? Welcome to Collector Nation here on Good Friday. It's always Brian and Ryan here on a Friday. What's up, Brian?
Starting point is 00:08:46 How you doing, Ryan? How's the weekend? Hey, the weekend was great. We're recording this early for Good Friday. We've got stuff to do, people to see, babies to kiss, and Easter eggs. find. So we had to record a little early here in the week that I cover all the gamut. Did I offend anyone or not if anyone for possible Easter celebrations? Doing anything fun with the fam?
Starting point is 00:09:13 You know, this is an interesting year for Easter and offered. You went there, so I'm going to go. Good story. It's a pretty quick story. I will be alone all weekend until Sunday at 2 p.m. Wow. That's kind of awesome. Literally. I have a Brian, how long has been this? I've been alone that long. You be all right. I was doing the math.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Like 10 years. I will. I mean, I really could use some help maybe. I'm like, what do I do with all this time, minutes? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Start a new project. Yeah, I mean, my, you know, my two boys are with my ex this weekend. My stepson, we have two, We had two, two, two-year-olds and a four-year-old that we brought together that are now 12, 14, 15, you know, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And they're away. And Nash, who's Nicole and I's only together with his, hers, and ours, he and Nicole are going to Lego Land with her sister and her son. Oh, that's fun. We went with the older boys to Legoland like five or six years ago. Nash wasn't old enough to really experience that. So Nicole's taken, they're doing the, you know, sisters thing with their sons. I voted all in for, yes. He else should go do that.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And I'm not because I want them to go away, but like, yeah, that's great. Perfect. I don't fit well on those rides, you know. I'm 65, 2.75. Like, dude, big dudes don't belong at Loganland. And anyway, so I'm alone all weekend until, like, they come back early on Sunday. So we'll do our little Easter family thing. I'll hit church up, you know, on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So I should be prepared for things to all be changed in the studio. There could be things for sure. Okay, noted. I will be running audio video to all the TV so that when people are coming through, when we're recording, they can watch it in here. Right now they can, they look over here and they know what's going on, but we don't have it playing through the monitor. So anyway, but that's my Easter plan. It is a unique. Easter weekend for me.
Starting point is 00:11:30 What about you, Brian? I'm alone all week, which is great. So during the week, I am totally solo, which is, you know, I work anyways. It doesn't really change much, but it does let me. Yeah, Brian's like, yeah, son of a sundown at the office. I'm like, nothing changed. What really changed? And then the weekend, the family comes back on Friday night, and then we'll do a
Starting point is 00:11:57 an Easter family Easter brunch on Saturday, go to church Sunday, and then I'm heading out to the Topps Industry Conference on Monday morning. Oh, that would be fun. So it's been an interesting week in sports. You had on one hand March Madness, Sweet 16 stuff. Then you had kick baseball in full swing. Pun intended. How are the white socks kicking off the season?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh, exactly like you thought they would. Oh, and three. Wow. I didn't pay attention. I didn't pay attention because my fighting Alainai are going to the final four. Yes. Big week for the fighting Alainai out of Illinois. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Go Huskies. Ah, what a game. Yukon. You and I are going to have to put a wager on this one. I got five bucks for you. All right. Five bucks. Really going all in there.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Okay. I can, I can take your 10. Well, Bella's poor. She got locked out of her apartment, so she had to pay $250 for that. So five bucks is fine. It's more of like bragging. Yeah. I'm like $300 in the toilet from this weekend just on having to pay people.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I think for you guys to do more like, all right, the other person has to wear the other person's hat or something like, you know, like, you know, like or, like, or, yeah. Okay. That'd be more fun for the show. The mascot had. I got to wear like this. Yeah. The husky head. And she has to wear to dress up as an Indian.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, what is the fighting of Lianai? Is that a... It was Indian. I'm surprised you guys haven't had that name removed yet. Yeah, there are, well, we can't... There used to be a chief that danced. Oh, he doesn't know more dance. I don't think he's dancing anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But, yeah, you know, it's a tribe. It's a tribe from central Illinois. Because Indians didn't do Indian dances. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean... I mean, I read some books. I'm pretty sure they did.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. Just like we did. Yeah. Well, we've had some interesting statistics that we've been able to pull. So 40 cards have sold over $1 million since the beginning of 2025. Believe it. And like 40 doesn't even seem like that much. But when you think about probably half of those were, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:25 $5, 6, 7 million dollars. and the other half were over that. Like, it's crazy. Five, two and a half by three and a half pieces of cardboard. That is crazy. And I'm curious because it's only getting bigger. So I'm curious how much that number increases by the end of 2026. By square inches and weight are collectibles the most value, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:52 are those 40 cards the most valuable thing on earth? By weight, 100%. Yeah. Yeah, the three ounces. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's diamond-en-crested. Question, do you think if there's a recession, because there could be, well, there will be again, what happens to sports cards?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Are we insulated or do they go down the same as other assets or less? I think you've got some insulation from people and institutional money and other things that, I don't think the recession is going to hit every segment the same. So I think you got that going on. I think you have more stability than you have in the past because it spread out across more sports, more people. I think a lot of people are motivated for them to not go down. And I always like to bet on motivated people.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I also think it depends. If you're talking about, like, high value cards, there's always going to be a demand for, like, a Honus Wagner or, you know, any high value card. I think lower value cards might be impacted way more. Yeah, I agree. If you're a billionaire and now you're not worth a billion, you're worth $800 million, like you could still buy your $5 million honus. Like, sorry, but like. Yeah. Yeah, that 200 mill didn't, like, cash it in.
Starting point is 00:16:20 No, no, no. No, you're still living pretty much the same. And if you may, if you've got 50 mil or 10 mil, like it changes but doesn't change that much. A mill does. A mill. Yeah, if you got one mill. And your house isn't great. Your house is going down.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You know, you're worth 800. Yeah. Or you don't. Or you're in your house isn't paid for or something. Yeah, if your house isn't paid for it. Yeah. but, you know, these are good question. Good, uh, stat there, Bella.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It is. Yeah. I do think, I mean, bigger issues like we get this gas under control. Like all, like, simple shit. Like, let's not force ourselves into like, I think sometimes the news will try to talk us into a recession, even though we're not really there. But, you know, if there's no gas to be had, things get interesting. Yep. Can we all just get along, Brian? It's it. It's pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Quit bombing each other. Yeah. But I don't think we'll be, you know, the hobby's still growing 20% or 27% year over year increase in hobby participation. So I don't think the hobby's going anywhere even with. I mean, here's what I'll say. All right. I mean, this is I'll encapsulate this. This will make sense, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:47 we've been in a environment where no one has on you know like 50% of the country at least hasn't liked the outcome of the presidential election from last year and we've been in it and the news is controlled primarily by that group so we have been in a negative sentiment environment for like the last 18 months for like news. Would we, would everyone agree with that statement? I would probably push it to 2016. Yeah. So like,
Starting point is 00:18:23 we've been trying to get talked into a recession and had negative sort of vibes for almost two years in the news. And the hobby has ignored every bit of it and grown. But nonetheless, a lot of cards that sold for a lot of money last year are selling for even more money this year. So, I mean, I'm looking at some of these numbers, like literally stuff that sold for 6,000 in December, sold for 10,000 in March, sold for 3,000 in 20204, sold for 12,000 in March of this year. So two years, is that 4x? Am I doing my math right? Three times four is 12. Yep, 4x in two years.
Starting point is 00:19:11 That's crazy. Is your 401k 4X in two years? I don't think so. I wish it did. Okay, I have some rapid fire questions for you both. And for the audience, they don't know these questions yet. Who should answer first? Whoever feels very passionate about it. We'll give it to Ryan first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:28 A card or player, you think the hobby is mispricing. That can either be their price too high or too low. Jaden Daniels. Do you have a reason? I think he's injury prone. I think he's probably still higher. I think he's got the talent to be worth more, and he's showing the injury bug to be worth a lot less.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I don't think he could play eight seasons in the NFL and not stay off that. So that's the modern. And then honestly, any player that's in the Hall of Fame, like from like the last 20 years, I'd say they're undervalued because there's some cards that just don't make any sense, how undervalued they are. All right, Brian? I would go undervalue, I think. Mike Trout. I think his price has dropped a lot recently. So I think that's he's undervalued.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I mean, overvalued. I mean, it's just, it's all these new guys. I mean, it's all the new guys who haven't really done that much that could get hurt. Like the high, it's a high volatility market. But also I was. Jackson Dart making, being like the highest value card, you know, like being worth, I don't know, 20x what a bow knicks. So like this season or rookie. It's like, Drake May or like, Jade and Daniels. Like, throw whoever,
Starting point is 00:20:47 just name the guy. And then also undervalued, I think are, like you said, especially the NBA, dream team hall of famers, I think they're undervalued. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah. Shaquille O'Neill, Scottie Pippen. I don't even know. Barclays, way underrated and undervalued. Yeah, a lot of those.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I have John Stockton rookie. It needs to go up. needs to go. What is a card that you'd sell immediately if you had it? You know, this is hard for me because I would sell anything to make, that makes money. Okay, fair enough. Bad question for a card shop owner. Yeah, like, other than like a few Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence cards that I have,
Starting point is 00:21:31 like I would sell anything for the right price. But if I know why you're asking it for a different reason. I'm trying to think of like, I think anyone of one of one Jackson, I'd sell it right now. Okay, Brian. I would say the Pokemon Illustrator for $16.5 million. If I had that,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'd know it. Yeah, absolutely. Especially if I bought it for way left. I'm just rapid fire. Just whatever comes in my mind. What came to my mind immediately was the BAM cards,
Starting point is 00:22:04 the player that that's the play. Well, that moment's coming gone. You needed to have bought and sold like immediate, like that same day. That was a one 24-hour opportunity, I think. Yeah, that was just immediately what came to my head. Card that you would hold no matter what, like there's not a price.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Well, I know that there's always a price, but theoretically, no price that you would sell it for. Josh Allen, Prism, Silver, PSA 10, rookie. Pop is like 30 because they just made shit cards that year out of Prism. and there's just no PSA 10s of it. And I wouldn't. And I'm going to buy that cart this year. I think he's going to be a Hall of Famer and win a Super Bowl eventually. I would say, I would say, any Otani.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I think he still has room to grow. Plus, internationally, you know, he has a market. So any low-numbered rookie by him, I would hold on to it. I think Tom Brady cards are still underrated, even though they're not undervalued. Like, in some ways, I actually think they're undervalued for what he really did and how good he was. He played so long, I think, Tom Brady. Yeah, he got, it got diluted because he played so long.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yes. But high value Tom Brady cards, safe bet. Yeah. What's a card that you would never buy even if it, like, got really popular? Isaiah Thomas rookie cards. Do you have a reason? Because he was kind of the foil of, like, the Bulls trying to get over the hump. when I was a kid and the bad boys.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I just really had a disdain for the Detroit Pistons. And when Chicago finally got rid of them, we got Pippin, and, like, Cooch and, uh, freaking, I mean, of all people, what's his name? Can you think of it? Craig Hodges. I mean, like, dude, I hated the Pistons with every ounce of my being. like Bill Lambier cards,
Starting point is 00:24:11 Adrian Dantley, all those guys, John Sally, they can all never go up and I never want any of them. Okay, Brian. That's a true Chicago. I like that, but I would say mine are,
Starting point is 00:24:26 mine is Rogers, Aaron Rogers cards and Jordan love cards. I don't care. I'll never own them. I don't want them. If I get them, I'm selling them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Last question. if you had $5,000 and zero collection, zero card collection, and you wanted to get into the hobby as an investor, what would you start with? Pete Rose, Ricky Card, probably. I think that's under five. Like a highest PSA grade, I get Pete Rose. Willie May's, like, first five-year something at a high grade.
Starting point is 00:25:06 and then like whatever my favorite players rookie card is. Mine is any Jordan rookie, whatever that is. Maybe it's a four, five, whatever it is, that's what I would get. Or Wayne Gretzky. I just thought of this. I don't know if this trend ever hit y'all, but there was a trend for a while where people were like trading a bobby pin until I get a house and they like just trade up and up and up and it, you know, it takes away.
Starting point is 00:25:36 while, but, like, they eventually would get, like, a cheap house that's, like, for closing or whatnot. I'm curious, if you started out with, like, a base card, how long it would take you to, like, trade up to, like, a really good card. It depends on what you're the base card is. It's modern. No, no, but you've got to start with something that's, like, valued as a bobby pin, like, a piece of junk, and you just trade up and up and up and up and see how long it would take. And where you live in the meantime?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Where are you living in the meantime? Yeah. Just, it's for the content. Yeah. A long time. Give me 30 days. If I can do a card, if there's a good card show five days a week. I'm somewhere where I'm guaranteed, I know that's a tough ask.
Starting point is 00:26:24 But if there's five day a week card show, give me 30 days. Okay. I can, because you're going to get sympathy flips at first. Somebody's going to give you a dollar or something that's worth a nickel. they go, I'll give you a dollar. You know, and then game on from there. I mean, you give me a card show. If I had nothing to do at a card show,
Starting point is 00:26:46 but go flip through some bins and make some deals on the floor and had no other, you know, no kids that I'm watching, making sure some creepers not looing something or like taking advantage of them in a deal and no show and no Brian to have a beer with and have fun with, you know, like I was just focused. I can make some deals happen.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I know it's probably not us, but I think somebody should do it because I'd be curious. Well, it's got to be someone who lives in not in Chicago or New York or L.A. Like, we have different levels of what houses cost to get into. Well, no, you don't have to get to a house, but just like, that was just an example. It could just be like start at a base card, try to get to like an $1,000 card. Do I have a laptop? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah. Two weeks. Maybe we'll make a bet about it. I mean, look, I could scrap on the internet and between Facebook market, if I have the internet and a laptop and card shows available to me.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Well, you also could post it for content, so you have the whole, literally the whole internet. Yeah. So. Sounds like a challenge. I guess. Yeah, I think I could,
Starting point is 00:28:03 I'd be in that contest. I don't know if I want to do it. You have better things to do. Yeah. And like, I mean, I can, I will work that hard, but I don't want to necessarily work that hard. Yeah. Like on that. You'll work like, you know, like I get.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You work 500 hours in a week in a month. Yeah, exactly. $900. I know. I mean, you can make it happen. Man, it's tough. And that, you can get some snowball stuff. I've watched enough YouTube videos with my kid, my kids watching these guys.
Starting point is 00:28:34 supposedly do similar things. You never know. You know, go to these foreign countries and they're flipping and doing things like and I mean, some of it looks made up, but I don't know, I got some decent pointers. You find some good gems on Facebook Marketplace. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I like, it's... I could like a living off of Facebook more. I am very good at Facebook Marketplace, even though I hate it. I hate it and love it. But I can... I find the deals on there. Let me just say that.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And I go sniff it out. Yeah, you didn't tell Brian about our goalposts we got in our corner now. Exactly. That thing is awesome. We got a freaking feel gold in the building. Was that your new project this weekend? Absolutely not. That thing's already turned.
Starting point is 00:29:24 That thing's turned key in the door, in the window. It's like a... It's like bud light. It's probably like one tenth the size of one. But it's pretty awesome. That's awesome. We've got to have some competitions. Still like eight feet tall.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yep. Well, let's show that maybe. Maybe point your camera over there or something. You can't really see what the way. You can't. But we also do, from the grand opening, we had a live shoe painter. Oh, yeah. Come and paint some really, really cool shoes.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And I think this is a good closer here. Oh, yeah. But Ryan got Josh out. Allen Jordans. We're going to do an unboxing. All right. I haven't seen. I have not seen these.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I saw them getting painted. I have not seen them in person. So this is done by a local Greenville girl. Her Instagram's AP Customs. Oh, she's, look at that. Oh, she even branded her box. We got like a stamp of the inside as I tear off my. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:30:39 See that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so she's an architect that does this kind of as like a little side gig. We have cards that were here on top that had game-worn Josh Allen patches in them that are now gone. That she bloated into. And da-da-da. Those are sweet.
Starting point is 00:31:11 17. We have the patch. One patch here. built into the blue that you can see. Game worn. We have Otto on the shoe pulled from and then we have the number 17 built into the side and this side. Oh, they look so cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 So who's graffiti or Splash? What's this called? Splatter paint. She pulled that from one of the, his signatures on the car. We should get his, we should have him sign them. Yeah, we can. And we know anybody that knows them? I do.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Oh, man. Patch here. Game worn. We got the Buffalo behind the Nike swoosh and 17 on the shoe toe. Yes. Custom one of a kind, never made before. Never made again. Game worn patches.
Starting point is 00:32:21 A fixed. Josh Allen, Jordan 1's custom for yours truly. And if you're not watching on YouTube. I need Chicago Bears. Yeah. We can make that happen. We can make that happen.
Starting point is 00:32:35 She's awesome, dude. We'll get an Erlacher for him. These were solid white. So 100% white. There was no, she painted the red, the blue, everything. Yeah. is really cool. Well done. These will go in. I have these displays.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Brian, we'll show this next week where it sits in there and it levitates and turns. There's literally no like space below it. So both of them will be showing and levitating. Yeah, whoever listens this on radio is really missing out because they're awesome. Yeah, you've got to watch the YouTube to get these cuss to see. the custom. Yeah, they're, they're awesome. And Alexis, if you're listening to this, you did a great job. And they- Fabulous. Yeah, came out better than could have ever expected. Yeah. Last thing from the grand opening. Oh, yeah. This is the mint case with the Caleb Williams. This is Mike Baker graded and on the blockchain, officially engraved on the side. We got nine, it was graded 9.5 by Mike Baker.
Starting point is 00:33:48 authenticated. Mike Baker was the lead grader PSA. Now does Mike Baker authenticated. Gaila Williams Color Blast 2024 rookie in this hefty like seven pounds glass an adamantium. I made that second part up, but it's definitely glass case. Yeah, so Brian Perup makes these cases with the mint. And he was on the show and came to the grand opening and hand delivered it to Ryan. Yes. Pretty awesome. First ever one hand delivered. And this video probably doesn't even do justice.
Starting point is 00:34:22 You really need you watching if you're listening today. Go check out the YouTube or go check out the Collector Nation app. Watch the whole thing. You can see how pretty Brian is in real life and see how good looking this card is. Pretty cool, right, Brian? I love it, man. You got some good stuff. Have you seen these things?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Have you seen these cases? I have. They're amazing. Yeah. They have some really bad. I mean, you know, I think there's, you know, a long way to go for the hobby. Like, there's been like, okay, how can we display these things more interesting and more, I don't know, custom and luxury is not the word I'm looking for. Like high end.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, high end substantial. Like putting a $1.5 million card in a. Yeah, that belongs in that case. Yeah. This is like five grand, you know, but not, you know, but not 1.5 million, and it's in one. So the least thing you can do. But yeah. And I did get one other card I wanted to show.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I've been waiting on this one. This is Trevor Lawrence, Rookie, downtown. Low pop, there's like 20 of them, PSA 10. My boy. That one's pretty. Even from like here, I can see the refractor on it. That one's really nice. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Oh, yeah. Any final words, Brian? No, happy Easter to everybody. And we will see you. On the flip side. Yeah. We appreciate everybody for listening. We know you have options.
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