Collector Nation - Latest news on trending sports cards, Pokemon, NFL and Major League Baseball Playoffs
Episode Date: October 17, 2025SUMMARY In this episode of the "Trading Cards and Collectibles" podcast on the Radcast Network, hosts Ryan Alford and Brian Ludden discuss the booming trading card industry, with Brian reporting live ...from the Texas Rangers stadium where a new card shop is being built in partnership with the Rangers and Panini. They cover industry trends, digital collecting apps, market values, and share behind-the-scenes insights from a major printing facility. The episode also spotlights sports card market updates, listener stories, and the evolving digital landscape, offering fans an inside look at both the business and excitement of collecting. TAKEAWAYS Overview of the trading cards and collectibles industry size and scope Updates on a new card shop being built at the Texas Rangers stadium The partnership between the Rangers and Panini for the card shop Discussion of the impact of sports events, including MLB playoffs and World Cup matches, on collectibles Trends in rookie quarterback cards and their market performance Insights on the value stability of certain collectibles, like Pokémon cards versus sports cards Analysis of scanning trends on the Lud app and playoff-related card interest Overview of eBay's significant role in the trading card market and its gross merchandise volume Insights from a tour of a major printing facility for trading cards Future plans for the hosts, including studio transitions and personal projects related to collectibles
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This industry is so big.
Think about the enormity of like just eBay.
The amount of GMV transactional money is $20 billion plus.
That's just one part of this industry.
Both Drake May and Michael Pinnock beat my bills and Josh Allen.
So their scans are up at the expense of my favorite player, which is Josh Allen.
So it's like, I'm happy, but I'm sad.
I mean, how many total scans?
How many a week?
Like average?
On a weekend, we get a million.
If you do the math on that, it's like a thousand scans a minute for 20 straight hours.
That's pretty much what people do on Lodhicks.
Welcome to the Trading Cards and Collectibles podcast on the Radcast Network.
From Chasing Grails to Colin Bluffs and going inside the hobby.
Are you ready to collect?
Let's get at it.
Here is your host, Ryan Alford.
What's up guys?
Welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles.
You got Ryan and Brian here.
And, you know, I'm in studio, which most people say, hey, you got a cool studio.
But you know what?
Where I'm not?
That's where Brian is.
He's in a Major League Baseball Stadium.
The Texas Rangers baseball stadium at that, Brian.
Look at this.
If you're watching this on YouTube, Spotify, or where you get video, you're missing it, dude.
That is MLB.
Brian's, he goes, where should I do it?
In a suite, baby.
What's the only time they'd ever let me in a suite, though.
You're usually on, what, you're usually up in the stands with a dog and a beer, you know?
Yeah, my camera won't go that far where they put me using.
Come on, man.
I don't believe that.
No, that's cool, dude.
Texas Ranger Stadium.
How's the stadium?
It's beautiful, man.
If you haven't been here before, it's like, it's just awesome.
I mean, the stadium's awesome.
as you saw behind me,
but it's also the whole experience.
You get here, it's 15 minutes from the airport,
and there's 15 restaurants and bars and two hotels,
and it's just awesome.
It's on Jerry's World Campus,
so you've got the Rangers and Cowboys.
So it's a fun place to come to.
And, yeah, with the card shop opening up here,
I'll be here like once or twice a month.
So, yeah, starting to get some good friends down there
and join it.
Texas T.
You know, you remember the Beverly Hillbillies?
The Texas Tee, that oil money.
You can't hide that oil money.
It's flowing.
But that's awesome, dude.
And, you know, and that's what's great about this show, guys.
Everybody listening.
Look, Brian and I are normal guys, like everybody else.
But we get access.
And we're here to share access.
You know, like we get to rub shoulders.
Brian gets, you know, in the stadium and the sweep.
We're going to show that.
bring these things to life.
So we're not in a basement doing things.
We're also not billionaires,
but we are here to give you the access
that we're blessed to get access to.
So it's fun.
And, you know,
Brian gets to mingle and watch his store
come to life, man.
That's got, yeah, that's cool.
I mean, it's got your name on it.
I think anybody listening is probably into trading cards,
whether it's sports or Pokemon or collectibles.
The dream would be,
watching my own, you know, card store, collectible store.
I mean, I don't know how you wouldn't want that.
And then you need to do it at the frigate stadium.
Dude, is that not awesome?
Yeah, it's fun.
I was walking through it yesterday with the construction team
and, you know, kind of seeing the renderings come to life.
And they had some great ideas.
And they're collectors themselves.
So they're pretty psyched about building the shop.
And, you know, just a partnership with the Rangers.
and Panini is going to be super excited.
They are super excited about the World Cup.
There's nine matches down here in AT&T.
So they're going to be doing a lot of stuff with us too.
But all in all, it's just a cool experience.
And it's just better.
It's a great place for collectors.
That's what we want it to be.
I took some video.
We'll kind of throw this on.
You can tease it if you want to.
We'll show it.
Brian's got videos.
If you're watching, which you should be, hey, we love our listeners, but, you know, give us some love on YouTube or Spotify and or Instagram.
You get on LuddX.
You can get on The Collectibles.
Show or Ryan offered any of those.
We show all behind the scene stuff.
But yeah, Brian's, we'll have some videos playing throughout this as we're talking about it.
So if you're listening, giving you a little foam-o that you've got to bounce over and look at all the renderings.
and then Brian's just real-time footage of what it's like to build the LCS.
And you know what, Brian?
I mean, I'm going to go ahead and tease it myself.
I couldn't let you be the only one build a store, you know.
So I might have a little something up my sleeve as well.
It's news to come, but it will not be at the Texas Ranger Stadium.
So I'm going to have to really make the interior pop.
I don't have that borrowed interest.
and amazing surroundings going with it.
And so it's cool.
Collectibles.
Show is where you'll find all of the channels
and learn more about what we're doing.
And ultimately, hey, we want to hear from you.
You do case hits at collectibles.
Dot show.
I want you to send in your favorite pulls of the week.
And here's the difference.
This isn't about just value.
Hey, we want to see some $10,000 hits.
Had a couple of those myself a few months back.
But it's not just about the values,
about what you're collecting.
What means something to you?
Share a story, share a video of you holding up the card that you hit last week.
That was your favorite player and you nailed it.
So case hits at collectibles.
Dot show, send in those videos.
I want to know the stories.
We're going to bring them to life here on the show.
We're going to do a segment each week once we get rolling and get some videos in
where we share that on the show with us.
We'll feature you on Collectibles show.
It's been a good week in sports.
I mean, it's a great time for sports.
You know, if you listen and you're a sports fan,
I mean, you've got World Series, you know, building to the World Series, you got Major League Baseball playoffs,
you've got college football, which is huge in the South where I am, and it's becoming more nationwide, I think.
It's not just the Southeast Conference anymore or the ACC.
It's national.
And then you got NFL, you've got, I don't know, golf playoff.
I mean, it's a great time to be a sports fan.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, it's only like baseball for sure.
but then my Bears won.
I mean, it's been a great game.
I was a great game. And look, I've got a lot of, let's just say I've got a lot vested in both
the quarterbacks.
So I just wanted both quarterbacks to play well, which they did.
And Caleb is coming along.
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's, he's young and there's a lot of pressure on these young
quarterbacks and you know when one does it extremely well it makes the other ones look bad but if you
put him in like where he his first games how many games he's played and his stats and what he's doing
i mean he's doing everything he needs to be doing and now he's you know to learn a whole new offense
and new players and whatnot so yeah i'm happy with it that bears a one three in a row which i don't
even know last time they did that i don't know a long time ago so yeah exactly and then uh you've got
You know, all of the rookie quarter action last year, other than McCarthy who's been hurt, are playing pretty damn well.
I mean, it's sort of, you know, is a good building point to trending players of the week on the LuddX app, who's, you know, who's trending up.
And at the top of that list, I'm going to let Brian talk about it, but are littered on the list is a couple of those big rookies from last year.
Brian, what we got with the scans this week and who's looking, who's trending?
Yeah, so like you said, the main guy, the guy that's up the most is Drake May, his PSA 10 silver prism.
Traded 500 bucks in late September, traded $800 last week.
he is number one in trending players on the Lodox app
number two we have Baker Mayfield continues to go up
I mean he just that dude's a baller man
I love that guy he's mature
yeah he's up 56%
and then finally Michael Pennix Jr
is uh you know his cards are finally starting to go up a bit
they're up about just under 20%
in the week.
So those are the three big ones.
But like you said, you know, the quarterbacks always rule, you know, but like, as you can
see.
The, here's the thing.
So I'm both, I'm both excited because I own a lot of these quarterbacks from last
year because it mingled with where the boys and I got back in.
So we're buying all that 24.
So we got a ton of those.
But it also gives me the, oh, because both Drake May and Michael Pinnock beat my bills
and Josh Allen.
So their scans are up at the expense of my favorite player, which is Josh Allen.
So it's like, I'm happy, but I'm sad.
Yeah, we're struggling a little bit.
They look human.
Yeah, they do look human.
I can't quite put my finger on exactly what it is, but they should have beat the Falcon.
I mean, they shouldn't be losing the Falcons and the Patriots.
And I know if that, I think both teams are playing better, but those should be wins.
Those are Ws.
Those are Ws in the precinct, you know, when you're looking at the calendar.
You're going, okay, we're going to be, you're going to win those.
And then there's enough question marks to where you've got to get those.
But we'll see.
Trevor Lawrence came back down to Earth, my boy, you know, they got to beat Seattle at home.
But Seattle has kind of manhandled them.
It was not the game.
I mean, Seattle's a good football team.
Darnold, they got the weapons on the receivers.
I mean, they're a good football team.
I know.
But you got to defend home turf versus sort of what I would consider maybe equal competition.
You know, they come into your space and then they just, they sack the hell.
And Travis Lawrence did not look good.
He's looked a lot better this year.
He's had signs, but that defense ate him up, ate Jacksonville's lunch.
So his cards would probably be doing the old teeter-totter like they sing to always do.
But I don't like here.
They're the teasing, no matter what.
Yeah, we could probably look and see, like, who's the thing.
to down the most in a week.
I know. We probably should.
So we give you the forewarning.
If you're out there and you're collecting these guys,
I'll tell you who not,
who to maybe let go unless they're like PC, you know?
And that's what I always would have died on this show.
Like, Trevor Lawrence, he could go down to 10 cents
and I'm going to have 4,000, not 39,000,
but maybe 4,000 of his cards.
Either way, because I got all my Clemson guys.
But, you know, there is the investment side.
And that's the balance.
everything in the hobby, Brian.
You know, it's like the, everybody's in it.
I think that are really in it, you've got both sides.
Like, hey, you're trying to doing a little investing and then, hey, who's your favorite
players?
So I hope, I encourage people to never lose side of that because sometimes I feel like at
least going to these card shows, it feels like it's all transactional.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, I think you have to do a little bit of both, right?
Or if it's really just about transactional, then, you know, that's a business.
and, you know, that's my son flipping, trying to make money.
But really, for me, it's, you got to enjoy what you're collecting, why you're collecting it.
And speaking in that, I have a show and tell for the week.
Yes.
This one just came back from eBay Authentics.
And it is, I don't know if you'll see it well.
It's a Babe Ruth.
Oh, wow.
Of, out of 25.
Yes.
It's a game used jersey.
Wow, that's cool.
And again, he's not going to shoot up any clubs.
He's not going to get arrested.
He's not going to beat his wife.
He's pretty much done doing that stuff.
Yeah, he doesn't have those things that should send the market down other than maybe just the entire market.
Trens is the market trends, I guess.
And speaking of that, it's funny you bring that.
up. We had it, we had his Pokemon. What was his username, Bella? Jim meant Pokemon. Great guy,
super knowledgeable. He was on Tuesday's episode. So if you're listening here on Friday, go back and
listen to that. He made this comment, which is sort of funny. He's like, here's the, here's
why Pokemon's a better investment. He said, uh, Charzard never gets hurt. He never, or never does
it, you know, gets arrested. He's always, you know, stable. You know,
I mean, his popularity changes, but it's not because of his own behavior.
Now, he's just a cool, cool customer.
Every time you see Charzar, he's doing the same stuff.
Yeah, Pikachu.
Pikachu is not going to get thrown in jail and hurt his PR.
No, no, no.
If he does, okay, we're in the end times or something.
I don't even know what.
He's walking around.
But, yeah, it is interesting.
He's like, yeah, you don't have those fluctuations based on performance on the field.
I was like, that's an interesting observation.
But it's also interesting because at the same, at the, you turn that upside down.
Yeah.
Why are Pikachu's gone up?
What did he do to, you know.
Pure speculation.
I'm talking about just pure, like, yeah, investing in speculation.
That is, that is it to the T.
That's true.
Every argument has a reverse side.
But a very knowledgeable guy, Jim meant Pokemon, take a listen to that.
And look, I'm the last guy that you'd think, you go, that's not a Pokemon guy.
Like, big sports guy, you know, big physique.
I do not look like a Pokemon guy.
I'm not, I wouldn't even call myself a Pokemon guy.
I just, like, appreciate the art and appreciate the collectibility.
And it's a fun thing with the kids who aren't also kind of Pokemon kids.
You know, they're, you know, sports playing, you know, red blooded American kids.
But it's fun with the art and it's fun, it's a fun open because you can sort of appreciate the art.
And I think it's a manageable kind of thing to collect.
It doesn't have the 400.
I think we've talked about the 450 parallels.
You know, it's like you've got different sets and things, but it's a little more digestible.
Yeah, agreed.
I mean, it's like we called, you know, you and I talk about it.
gateway drug.
Yeah.
That's where people get in.
Yeah, I have a few Pokemon cards, but nothing like, I've never really collected it,
like aggressively.
I would say we have about 5,000.
Value.
I'm not to mount like commons.
We give the commons away to my nephews and other kids, but we are building quite a few.
They're fun, easy rip.
Like, that's why we have so many, too.
It's like, it's a fun, easy rip.
They're, you know, $5 to $7 a pack instead of $50 a pack.
So if we're just hanging out, it's watching football,
Pokemon's an easy thing to rip and go, hey, got this, got that.
But speaking of sports on TV, we've got the visual up and we'll let Brian talk a little bit
what's happening with our playoffs, with our scans.
We had followed the exact order of the playoffs last week.
I think we have some changes potentially this week, Ryan, don't we?
Yeah.
Yeah, this is, I don't think it's surprising,
but what we have is we have L.A. and the Brewers,
L.A. 36,000 scans and Brewers, 22,000.
The other side, the Yankees advanced over the,
the Blue Jays.
And so in our other side, we have Seattle advanced and the Yankees.
And the Yankees are 18,000 scans above the merit.
But it's going to be really interesting because you're going to talk about the first
and second largest cities coming up into the finals, which is L.A., New York.
And that's going to be super interesting because the Yankees right now are scanned a little more
than about 5,000 more than the, or what is that, 14,000 more than the Dodgers, but the Dodgers
if they keep winning, I think that gets close.
I think it'll close too.
Dodgers look good.
I mean, not a surprise.
Yeah.
And the thing is, though, how they're winning is not what people thought.
I mean, Otani, I think his first thing was a home run.
Yeah.
And I think that was his only hit.
He's like one for 28.
Yeah.
And it's their pitching that's absolutely dominated.
Yeah.
It's not been an offensive explosion.
No.
But at any time they need it, Freddie Freeman's going to come around.
Yeah.
Mr. Clutch.
Yeah, they're clutch.
I mean, I hope these teams, I hope that we get series, you know,
that the guys owe to come back and give it a good series because I enjoy watching it.
but, you know, Seattle's been hot for two months in L.A. with the pitching.
And it's going to be tough to come back against them.
But you never know.
So get your scans in and get your guesses in.
For total number of scans here, you know, you can do some math here on the board here with just these teams.
So then imagine it across the whole gamut.
So get those guesses in.
We've got the Luttex case giveaway.
and we'd love to see someone win that case and, hey, think high.
That's all you go high.
Lots of scans.
I mean, how many total scans?
I don't know if you have that data.
You probably have averages at least, Brian.
I mean, it's how many a week, like average?
I mean, on a weekend, we get a million.
And so if you do the math on that and I don't want to really.
I don't want to do in my head, but it's like a thousand scans a minute for 20 straight hours.
That's pretty much what people do on Loddx.
I mean, it's crazy.
Like, I know, you know, like no one's been more, and even before Brian and I met, a bigger
cheerleader of Lutex than me being the best scanning app in the app store.
But it still blows my mind, like the volume, you know, like a volume.
you know, like of how many freaking people are just scanning cards,
getting them in their digital, you know,
collection repository,
and then getting either values or linking them back to eBay or whatever they're doing.
It's,
it's incredible.
Yeah,
it's,
it's,
this industry is so big.
I mean,
think about like the enormity of like just eBay of four billion dollars in
GMV or whatever they're going to do for,
you know,
just,
and it takes two and a half,
minutes to put a card on and then you talk about all the shows and lcsses and and uh i mean the amount of
GMV transactional money is you know 20 billion plus which like that's just one part of this
industry secondary sales it doesn't include you know what tops and fanatics they're doing printing cards
and you know wax wax and you know zion cases and luddox's app and all that stuff
Like it's a massive, massive industry.
And it's going to be exciting to be able to be the tech hub to watch, you know, be in the center of it and watch this thing grow where we can, instead of having it segmented out through the industry, you know, having a few places that people can kind of gravitate to and then gravitate from to go to other sites and the ecosystem.
Yeah.
I want you to talk about a visit you've made here while on that trip here shortly.
I do want to bring up as related to that comment.
If you go to eBay, check out the Rad Collective.
Brian, this is how I know.
Like, you know, we move a lot of cards thanks to the Linux app and we move, you know,
some secondary wax that we get.
And we put it on there.
And Brian, I mean, the moment, if I put 50 boxes on there, 40,
them are gone in two days. Like, you know, we priced it right, but we're not giving it away.
And just the volume of transactions that happen. Like, I see it. Like my phone starts staying,
like 10 minutes et cetera, throwing stuff on there. It's the demand is high. Yeah. I mean,
that's the things like when you look at marketplaces and obviously I've known pretty well
trading derivatives for 25 years, but it's about trust, volume, and
velocity. And that's why a lot of these other companies coming in to try to compete with eBay.
And I'm saying like smaller companies and they're like, hey, we're going to give you,
it's no commission or it's 1% or whatever it is fine. But that card would have transacted 10 times
on eBay before I could even get it off one sale on any other marketplace. And then at that point,
they're left with stale data. There's those cards are sold somewhere else. And now you go to
their site and you're like, oh, I'm going to buy that card.
And like, oh, that guy hasn't signed on in three months.
Like, it's just, it's just really difficult.
I think the vulnerability of eBay is tech.
Yeah.
And then, you know, can a Walmart come in and do something?
Can a fanatics come in?
Yeah, of course.
I mean, of course, but it's a big enough industry.
I don't know if, like, if eBay gets totally crushed or it just grows the whole pie.
But you know what I was thinking.
interesting, like having partnerships with these different companies, eBay wants the buyers.
So eBay will give an affiliate.
If you send buyers over to them, they'll give you an affiliate percent of the GMV.
Walmart wants sellers.
Walmart has buyers.
They got hundreds of millions of buyers.
That's why you and I got to talk about Walmart.
I got to give their own Walmart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and so, you know, they're going to go at this differently.
but, you know, well, no one has more money than Walmart.
So we'll see what happens.
But, you know, interesting stuff.
It is interesting thought.
And, I mean, that's my only knock on eBay.
It's like, I agree with you.
Like, you can't fight the behemoth and I'd have to turn stuff over faster with left margin.
The fees are high.
It's, it is what it is.
They're the leader.
I mean, they just, it's justified on some level, but I don't have to love it at all times.
But the, you know, and they're very seller friendly.
I mean, excuse me, buyer friendly.
It's very, I mean, it's all catered to the buyer.
It's like the buyer can do no wrong.
And that's a little as a, you know, I'm a top seller.
Like we have the highest marks on there, like 99.9 feedback.
Like everything you could do right is a seller.
And we get to just take it sometimes from buyers that, you know, the littlest thing or nothing, you know,
know, it's very buyer friendly.
And, you know, they can do that now.
But I think there is some vulnerability if someone can figure out how to take care of both.
Yeah, I agree.
I think it's, yeah, I mean, it's, when you're a market leader like that, you can do it.
You can do it.
You can do what you want to do.
So, yeah.
How they manage it, though.
I mean, obviously there's, you know, they're great.
I mean, overall, I mean, this is kind of like, you know, 90%.
great love it it's an opportunity for us to move product we appreciate them we've got
relationships with them but if we could just tighten up that 10% or actually that 13%
the the the seller fee uh we come on man can i mean i get that it's gonna be tears for that like
13 10 something you know like that no that flat cost so i got to talk to my friends at walmart
through my friend brian uh i get a get some get some move
movement there. But very cool. What else? Hey, you're, you know, I teased it a little bit.
You had a little visit with, I mean, maybe people have heard of this company. I'm not sure.
But talk about that. So yeah, so yesterday, you know, in Dallas, you got headquarters of Panini,
you got Beckett, and obviously Fanatics has places all over. But one of their biggest printing
facilities is down here. So I got, you know, an escorted look into.
all the printers and what they do and, you know, the jerseys they're cutting up and
and the one-on-ones and the new designs and the new security stuff they're throwing, you know,
they're very serious about security and keeping this integrity of this market.
So they're just always innovating.
And they try hard.
But man, I'm telling you, dude, I was like, holy crap.
Like, I don't even know how many sheets I saw, but palettes of, you know, uncut sheets.
but it's insane, man.
And I kind of knew that was like that, but like seeing it live and getting explained to me was awesome.
So I want to thank my friend Eric Myers, head of innovation for fanatics, for kindly guiding me around for an hour or two.
It was a great experience.
I asked if I could film and they said no, but, you know, so I would put it on here if I could, but I can't.
So I won't.
They're getting all the licenses, so, you know, you're going to see some changes.
And I've always wondered to, I think I know the answer, but I'm going to ask it to you anyway, Brian.
Why not have an individual code for every card made so that you know, whatever, like, why not have a barcode or a tiny little, like, an identifier so that there's not this, you know, neat.
Yeah, you still need to get it great.
it doesn't mean that having that has it,
but like you know how,
what's the movement of any one individual card?
Is there a reason not that they don't do that
because other than a lot of money is made
on the same cards over and over again,
they don't want to track it?
Yeah,
or I mean,
I think honestly it's because 99% of cards
that they print are worth nothing, right?
Yeah.
And so if they're printing it for nothing
and it's worth nothing,
they're okay.
All of a sudden,
if they do stuff like that and put a chip or QR code
in there on the printing process,
that's going to slow things down,
you know,
getting cards out,
but also they're going to,
the printers are going to charge more.
And now you're,
now you're paying a nickel
for a card that's with zero
and you do that a billion times.
And, you know,
but I do think they're going to do stuff with that,
um,
on the number cards,
um,
for sure.
Uh,
I think it's too bad.
And for Loddx,
like,
you know,
they're like,
oh,
that's not good for you,
right?
Loddx,
like,
you know,
that's not good for you guys,
identified cards.
but if we put a QR code in a good cards,
everyone's going to know what they have.
And I said, great.
Like, thank you.
Help us do that.
Yeah.
I'll worry about the trillion cards
that were printed up to this day.
Yeah.
Believe me,
there's enough history there for you,
uh,
honey.
I'm like,
I'm good, man.
Like,
yeah,
yeah,
I'm good.
You guys,
whatever you do,
I think that's a great idea.
But like,
of the,
you know,
150,000 cards printed in different cards printed this year.
Yeah,
I'm okay.
No, you're fine.
There's going to be a need for Luddix for the foreseeable 100 years and probably longer.
I'm imagining you at that print place.
It's seeing like one of ones, like go through the print press and like you're sitting there going, you know, like you're fascinated by the whole process was here's what I was curious of.
I should know this.
But is it a one phase print?
Are there multiple phases to kind of get the parallels and those kind of variations?
Yeah, many layers, many layers.
Yeah, I mean.
It's like going from one machine to the next kind of feeding through.
There's a whole film of, you know, there's a role of whatever that parallel is.
And they just, you know, put that on, you know, X number of cards and then they move it to somewhere else.
And I mean, the one thing, yeah, I mean, it's, it's insane.
The one thing that was pretty funny is like they have like this cage where all the autos are.
So, you know, so Tom Brady has a bunch of these.
Like Tom Brady has these.
And then there's like this like naughty cage where it's like these guys haven't signed in like six months.
Is that the redemption cage?
Like when you get the redemption card is from the naughty box?
There's some redemption.
Yeah, exactly. The redemption, it ends up in the redemption. The guy, like, you can't, you can't make a guy sign, but like, it's, it's pretty funny how they're, like, in the corner. But I think how, how they came about is that Fanatics says now, if we don't get your redemption, and I think it's within a year or nine months, that you get a card at 2x value over what that card is.
worth that's what they're going to do which i think is great uh because you know you can't rely on
the athletes to you know to sign stuff yeah here's my one quick story on that so back in the
hobby with the boys we're in it the hottest thing in going is those rookie quarterbacks that
we talked about earlier and this is pretty early on this is probably November of last year
December December right in the you know the rose rookie girl that's a
heat of the value of those rookie quarterbacks.
And we get a redemption card for Michael Pennix Jr. auto numbered.
And right when that, if we had had that card in hand, it's probably a $8 or $900 card.
Easy.
And we proceeded to wait six months for that redemption to come back.
And when we got it back, it was worth $180.
So it's like, that's a big deal.
That's a big jump.
And it's like, I know that it is what it is, the game.
It's the, you know, no one intended that to happen to us.
But as a collector where that probably would have been one, we would maybe trade and sell up for either stuff for our PC or to, you know, reinvest in something.
I mean, that's kind of a bummer.
Yeah.
And I think there's susceptibility also with the grading companies and the same, you know, same tree, different branch.
you know we were talking about people going up 20% 70% in a week and you know like you said it's like
what do you do you can't do anything and then it's also you send it away to get created and you're like
I want to sell this thing yesterday and you get it back in three four months oh I got one of those
stories too man Josh Allen gold waited you're supposed to be fairly fast and it ended up being like
Tricking 60 days or something and easily lost grand.
You know, it was from valuation.
And yeah, same thing.
It's like, and I mean, good things take time.
I get it.
And I don't know.
I don't know that there's a solution per se.
PSA turns, you know, has different, very, you know, levels that you can buy for speed
and all that.
But you don't ever know.
And I get it, but I will say this sometimes there has been a couple of instances,
if I'm being honest, where maybe whatever it was, it was, they had an uptick, you know, during that time.
So it came, it became almost like a safety deposit box, send away to where you can't get it, you know.
And it came back and I'm like, hey, it went up like a hundred bucks.
There you go.
Yeah, there's always the other side of it too, but like this doesn't seem like it evens out.
No, it doesn't.
What's going on the rest of the trip there in Texas, Brian?
Just going to do some, you know, another walk through the shop today.
And then just wrapping up with a few meetings here at the stadium and then heading back to Chicago for the weekend.
Shy Town.
Yeah, do people still call it that?
I call it that.
Yeah, you can call it Shy Town.
they call Shirek, you know.
Jim Rome called it.
I always said Shytown, right?
Yeah, it's a great time.
It's like 70 degrees and sunny every day,
so until it's not.
But there's a great moment.
Yeah, we're in the middle of that as well,
an old South Kakalaki, South Carolina.
Any other thoughts today?
Anything else we need to cover, Brian?
No, I think I'm good.
I know that you got a bunch of stuff going on.
Yeah.
And you're a busy man.
So it's an, you're,
you're such a cool customer.
But even there's a few times we talked and,
you know,
you're in it,
man,
you're in it.
I am.
Yes,
I'm moving.
The way it worked out moving home and business and,
uh,
it was not planned.
Just both the deals kind of landed there.
It's like in a three week period and I'm a,
give me a,
Don't me know the ball in.
I'm a juggler, man.
Juggle.
But I'm,
I'm running out of limbs a little bit.
So it's all good.
We're all human.
We all got to go on it.
It's all positive things.
So it's not negative things.
It's more,
I think it's more,
I do a big,
good job of compartmentalizing,
and my compartments are like getting full.
And so.
I know.
If you saw our studio,
our studios looks,
you guys see the,
you know,
what looks pretty good.
My normal, and you might even hear a little bit of an echo on today's episode because some of our buildup around us is in disrepair, disruption, whatever you want to call it, is we'll be moving studios.
So it might be as early as next week moving into the new space that's going to be excited to bring some stuff to life.
So we'll leave that there.
We'll have some more news on that.
And we appreciate everyone for listening.
And any final thoughts, Brian?
I'm good, my man.
All right.
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