Collector Nation - NFL Kickoff: Drake Maye Cards, Arch Manning Hype & the 1986 Fleer Jordan

Episode Date: September 11, 2026

Football season is officially underway, and Ryan Alford and Bella are breaking down what that means for the football card market. With an unusually strange rookie quarterback class and none of the roo...kie QBs expected to start, they discuss which players collectors should actually be watching and where value could emerge as the season develops. Ryan and Bella also react to Drake Maye’s three-interception fourth quarter and discuss whether his current card prices accurately reflect what he has proven on the field. Ryan still believes in Maye’s long-term potential, but the question becomes whether a dip is coming and, if it does, whether collectors should buy it. The conversation also covers Arch Manning’s exclusive Topps deal, the impact of his family name on his card market and the latest installment of Collector Nation’s Iconic Cards series featuring the 1986 Fleer #57 Michael Jordan, including Ryan’s childhood connection to one of basketball collecting’s most recognizable cards. Topics Covered The start of football card season The rookie quarterback market Why no rookie QBs are starting Football rookies to watch Drake Maye’s card prices Drake Maye’s three-interception fourth quarter Is Drake Maye a buy on a dip? Caleb Williams vs. Drake Maye Arch Manning’s exclusive Topps deal The Manning name and card-market hype Bowman Football prospects 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan #57 What makes the Jordan card iconic Ryan’s childhood Jordan collecting story Collector Nation app and collection tools 🔗 Links Mentioned in This Episode Collector Nation Website: https://thecollectornation.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecollectornation_ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thecollectornation YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thecollectornation Collector Station Website: https://thecollectorstation.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecollectorstation Ryan Alford Website: https://www.ryanalford.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanalford ⭐ If you enjoyed this episode, follow Collector Nation, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another collector.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up guys? Welcome to Collector Nation here on the Collector Nation Network. Ryan and Bella today, R&B. It's just the R&B. Yep. Always. Always here. R&B tunes.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Always making it interesting, keeping it fun and fresh. Yeah. Over in Easley, South Carolina. The lovely, Easley, South Carolina here in the upstate of South Carolina. Where it still feels like Satan's ass crack every day. It is hot. We hope everybody is doing well out there. We appreciate you for tuning in here on a fine.
Starting point is 00:00:37 You'll be listening to us on a Friday. We shoot sometimes the day before, sometimes the day before before. It's probably your favorite day of the year. Yeah. Football kickoff day. Yes. It's weird though, Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Yeah. Real time. We're in the store. The FedEx man delivering the boom, Bowman, Chrome holly boxes. Yeah, baseball. Baseball. Good.
Starting point is 00:00:58 You have to be yet to say that. Good. clarification. And we were talking about that pre-shell, like, whose executive decision was that? Yeah. Lots of products coming out at nonstop. And it's like football season kicking off today and Bowman Chrome's launching. I'd be curious if that actually impacted the numbers of the product, like how well they did sales-wise.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Or if it's going to impact like the hype of the product. Because frankly, I've heard nothing of it minus what we've talked about in shop. Like I haven't seen any news. I haven't seen anything about it. Well, but you know where you got to go to get that news. Shameless plus. Yeah, it's a good set up there.
Starting point is 00:01:40 A good co-host here. Setting one another up, the collection nation app would tell you on the release calendar that's on the home page that is coming out today. It may still leave you with mystery of why, but you would know and be able to see them like two weeks apart, the football and the baseball launching. You know, baseball is all about like the end of the season, which you've got, I guess, prospects for next year.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I am a big football, a basketball card guy. And I collected baseball growing up. It's probably but my least depth of knowledge is full transparency. I can name the offensive lineman for like more teams than I would care to admit in college probably. But baseball harder. I don't understand the logic of the baseball time. And someone can message us and enlighten us. And there's a lot more baseball collectors than anything else.
Starting point is 00:02:32 So I'm in the minority year. Yeah. But my thing is like baseball is kind of weird where it's like the number one draft picks pretty much go into minor leagues for a little bit. And so they can kind of like prove themselves. So I think it's interesting like the concept because I feel like there's not a huge college baseball market. Whereas like football, there is a huge football baseball. Because there really go to play in the pros. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And minus this year. Minus this year, which is, again, this is strange all around. We're not going to have a single starting rookie quarterback that I'm aware of. Unless, like, last minute change happens here. And before. Maybe they're trying to juke everyone out. Maybe. But it's the first time we were doing the math.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's been a long time since there haven't been a single rookie. But to your point, baseball, you have that, you know, the college. There are a few people go straight to college to pros. So you're still kind of tracing that guy until when he actually gets called. up and there has been a lot of call-ups. We've been mentioning that on the app, some of the call-ups, the impact of their cards. Yeah, no, Rock Tulaski got called up a couple weeks ago. And so you're seeing that, but I think it is, baseball is strange to track because you never
Starting point is 00:03:41 know when they're going to pop, you know? And yeah, like the can't miss guys are pretty accurate. Man, baseball's so many guys and it's all over that. And if I watch, if I could watch more games, I might, would, know more because you're hearing, you know, maybe the local announcers or whoever mentioned guys that are coming up. But like, sheesh, it's tough. And you don't immediately, because I'm a college sports guy.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So you don't immediately, like you say, I'll go falling in love with, you know, Cam Camerillo, Clemson. And then, well, it takes him four years to make it to the big leagues or whatever. Like, okay, well, I still love him. So pull for him. But I don't know when he's actually coming to playing the pros. Your Nation is not just a podcast. We are your one-stop shop for all things.
Starting point is 00:04:25 All the best creators, all the best reels, all the best content curated for you every day. And if you're interested in learning more, go to thecollectornation.com or download our app on iOS or Android. We'll see you there. Bowman baseball just delivered. We've got more coming in throughout the next week because we do know people love their baseball. And then like three weeks out of Bowman football. Yeah, Bowman football. First week in October.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You got a big order of that coming. So excited for that one. There's so many products coming out. You know, it's hard. It's exciting, but it's overwhelming. It's hard to know what to buy because you don't know what's going to get traction, what's not. I mean, obviously there's historical data. Like you can tell like what's been popular.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But like, I don't know. I feel like it's so hard to decide and allocate resources to what. to learn, what to figure out, what to watch content on, what to do all these things, because there's a new product literally every single day. Yep. And so you want to see you all go to the app. And you can read some of the articles. All the best podcasts, all aggregated there, not just this one, but all of the best as a podcast
Starting point is 00:05:41 player, media hub, collection management. I mean, it's really... And you can just listen to Ryan's AI voice all day. Tell you about cards. He is much smarter than I. on lots of things. You got to just like embed the chip into your brain. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Push to comp. So literally it will, you tell that. Tell what card you got. It will tell you the value. Some pretty cool features. Check it out. In the app store, iOS only right now. We're launching Android the next 30 days.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It's got the depth, I think, to please the people that have been in it, that have done some apps. And then it's got, I think, the layer of education and podcast and media. and all that that doesn't really exist anywhere else. So ditch the YouTube baby. Come to collect your nation. Yeah. Get it all there.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You don't need those exercise videos, blend it in. No. All you need to do is be, you know, pumping iron with those blaster boxes or something. Yeah. And we got some digital packs that you can enter our Pepsi machine secret door that we have in store and rip some digital packs. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's fun. I find myself demoing even when I don't need to. All cycling back into the funnel. Yes. But it's kind of cool because it's actually cards from our actual store. We have taken pictures of every single card. You know, we are at the end of the day a local card shop and a small business. So it's just, it's fun to kind of see that and see the card sitting on our shelf, see it on our website,
Starting point is 00:07:17 and then you have a digital pack of it. 100%. And speaking of stuff from the app, we do have some articles that bring up some of the players. We have NFL kicking off this weekend. We mentioned none of those star rookies, but it's funny, you know, the hobby's going to find someone to value,
Starting point is 00:07:38 and quarterbacks are always highest value. So Mendoza and Ty Simpson lead that. But it's been fascinating to watch them kind of also crawl back to Earth with their values because reality is, I think the people that wanted them have gotten them, So you've got a supply and demand curve kind of dwindling down. But none of these guys are starting.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And it's like, it's a strange rookie class to me, like after the last few seasons. Yeah. I mean, it's weird to me. Like, I get why they're not starting them necessarily. You know, they want to keep them healthy. They want to see them develop. They, you know, want to see that maturity level. But also, you just spent how many millions of dollars to get them on your team?
Starting point is 00:08:19 And then you're not going to utilize it. them. Hey, we're saving them, you know. But it's the right thing to do because I think some of these guys have been fried early, playing too early because, you know, if you got a bad or line or bat, you know. Which is fair. But it's like, I don't know. I haven't seen it in a long time. We're pretty much across the board. That's the case. And I wonder if it was because like one team did it. So then they're like, okay, we can all kind of do it. Yeah. I don't know. That's past my pay grade to figuring out.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But I think they, they, there's a lot of guys that I, not a lot, but there's a handful that kind of come to memory that just really, I think got their development rushed along too fast. And so it's a fine line. You got to win now. So I think if these guys end up proving to be, I mean, Stafford's locked in. I mean, Tyson's not going to beat Stafford out. Yeah. If Stafford's healthy. But he is 37, maybe 38.
Starting point is 00:09:16 You know, he, and he get injured. And Tyson's will be in there. Ready or not. Same thing with Mendoza with Kurt Cousins in Oakland. I just said Oakland. It's Las Vegas. Oakland Raiders. I've been looking at old Bo Jackson cards and all of them say Oakland Raiders.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So Freudian Slick, you know what? You know I'm an OG by calling them Oakland. But Las Vegas. Yeah. They were Los Angeles Raiders too at one time. Yeah. So you're just all people. But they've been four different cities.
Starting point is 00:09:50 People in the comments are going to be like, you don't know ball. Yeah, I know ball. I named every city they've been in. But yes, the Las Vegas Raiders. So if you had to. If you had to pick a rookie this year, who are you putting your money on, most likely? I like Downs in Dallas. Caleb Downs, played at Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:10:17 He's a freak and really good. his cards are actually showing that a little bit, I think. He's only rookie to have a price and volume increase. Yeah, because I think he is that, like, once you get through the hype and the, okay, it's a quarterback, oh, it's a new product and it's quarterback, and you get through all that and you go, all right, who's a dog, who's playing, and who's got the biggest upside? Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He is on defense, though, which has a limit, but he's got a lot of playmaking ability, so he could be exciting. I think he's going to be good. and I think love could be great in Arizona. I don't know if they have the team around him that will enable that. Yeah, I'd agree. So he's exciting. He's fast,
Starting point is 00:11:04 powerful and runs great. I mean, it's like got all the tools. He's going to be a good one. But I think the more I'd think about, I think Josh Allen's going to have a breakout year. For your own well, being I hope he does too.
Starting point is 00:11:20 That's all I know for sure. I think Trevor Lawrence might too, you know? So I think Jacksonville and Buffalo are set up for big season. I need this. I mean, I don't even want to talk about it. It's not related to this show, but I went to Clemson. Do I need to say more? I'm a Clemson grad.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I grew up a Clemson fan. I need Josh Allen and Buffalo to win the title. I need then to play Jacksonville. and it'd be a nail biteer to the end and the ACC championship. I need my pro teams to deliver this year more than ever because it looks very dreadful. See, when I saw,
Starting point is 00:11:58 so I was checking the score of the game as well I was out and about this weekend and I went to Furman. So I checked the Furman game and I was like, damn, they just got their ass handed to them by Tennessee. But you know, they got paid a lot of money, whatever. It was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It was going to happen. Whatever. Then I go and check the score of the Clemson game and I was like, oh, it's actually the same score. I was like, now that, that I do feel that's a little bit embarrassing because they aren't getting paid to be beat. No, we're paying a lot to get beat. We're paying our coaches a lot, our players a lot for a very suspect product. And hey, I'll be patient. We'll see what happens. Now I'm not throwing any darts.
Starting point is 00:12:42 the headlines are writing themselves now and I have two words that encompassed everything I feel and before we turn the page now what? That's really it. That's my two words for Clemson. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:00 All right. Now what? Let's see. We lose to Georgia Southern this week. It could be a Wake Forest moment. Tommy Bowden. Well, and not because I want that to happen, but it's almost starting to feel that way in a weird way. I didn't think I ever said.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And it's very different because we should build statues for our current coach. But we're not living in 2018. So we'll see. And it's so hard because he is such a. Oh, God, nobody wants to. Oh, God, I would, I don't, I don't. I want him to fix it. But you have to fix it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah. I mean, you know. I want you to fix it. I want you to fix it. We don't have to win the national title, but we can't go. Get embarrassed. It was actually his, this past game was the biggest score. Yeah, margin.
Starting point is 00:13:55 That's the word of us. And that's telling. So we'll see. For your sanity, we'll keep going. Go bills. Go Jack. In a weird way, more excited for Bowman football. We've got Bowman baseball coming out.
Starting point is 00:14:14 They've got all the prospects, some that don't have car jet like Malachi, Tony, who had a ridiculous game for Miami. I mean, there's a lot of guys that had breakouts. And literally, he doesn't have a card other than a Leaf card. And I love you, Leaf, no offense, but that's not a mainstream card. And it's not one that most collectors are even have on the radar, you know. And it will be out with Bowman. You'll have. And then, hey, Arch Manning, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I know, I saw that. He needs to know that he signed with Topps. I love how like they made it a whole theatrical thing that he signed. Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of like, I understand. I love a good marketing angle. And I love Topps.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I'm just saying like, like you really had any other choice. Yeah. They've got all the license. What do you? Yeah. I'm signing. and I'm cashing it all in with Panini. Ah, nah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It's what he needed to do. It's what Topps needed to do. It's the most no shit news of the week, but still noteworthy, nonetheless, all his cards will be there. It sounds like he won't even have a non-licensed version moving forward. He does have non-licensed to the past, though, because I do, we've sold some of them.
Starting point is 00:15:31 We've got the Panini College cards with Texas, but every pro card for the foreseeable future, we'll be wearing tops or top subbrand Bowman. I'm curious to see what his card market is going to look like in the new Tops product because, I mean, he's arguably like a good player but not like out of this world crazy generational. And it's, you know, his name is carrying a lot of that. And, you know, all respect to him, like he stayed with Texas. Like he didn't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:06 and but I'm just curious as to how the market will respond to that because it's like do they care more about the name and the family and where he came from or how he's actually playing and you know how he might do in the NFL which presumably yes yes. Yes. Exactly. Yes, yes, yes. It's it's exactly those things. I don't and right now it's based his values on the surname because he, his stats don't support the number. Yeah. But, you know, you could argue that he's shown flashes and potential,
Starting point is 00:16:41 but if that name, that's their name in there, it's a different, it's a different number. And I think he could be that guy, but he hasn't put it on film yet completely. He's thrown flashes of it, but he hasn't won at that level yet. This year will be telling with that. And then ultimately, you know, the pros will, bear it out. But the name will carry it longer than it should. I mean, you see it with like Shador Sanders.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Yeah, it is. He's had moments of glory. And he made, it ended up being the starter last year. So he had some amount of justification, but it was name-based. And it's still, I still think there is a level of that.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And that's reality. That's cards. There's awareness and there's, you know, desired like around, you know, the legacy that they're, fathers, uncles, brothers, whoever might be that carry that same name of build,
Starting point is 00:17:39 which is part of the hobby. But at a certain point, it does become what, uh, what have you done? And Ars's man, Arge Manning's story is yet to be told on that front. Hey, and he could have an absolute generational breakout year this year. Oh, he could. He has the talent. I mean, there's no, there's no question. But let's see it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 We'll see it. Jeremiah Smith's a freak though. Let me just tell you that right now. He's going to be one of the best riders riders'ers ever play the game. I mean, he already is. He is unbelievable at Ohio State. I think he's going to win the highson. So we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:18:15 All right. Switching gears a little bit, we are going to do our third installment of iconic cards and the history behind them. Yep. And this week we are going to be talking about the 1986, Fleer 57 Michael Jordan Car, I mean, as I say those names, those words, you can probably picture the card in your head in big shining lights.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You know, can't really get more iconic than that. So want to hear your thoughts on this card. So I grew up on a street called Ivanhoe Circle. It sounds much nicer than it really was. Had everything I needed, not everything I wanted. Um, had an next door neighbor. His name was Oliver Bruton. Oliver, if you're out there, thumbs up, buddy.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You turn me on to basketball cards, but I was already a Jordan fan and a card collector. And everybody collected baseball cards. Like football basketball cards were not, I mean, they're, if they're, I don't know, 80% as popular as football. Baseball is still number one by far. it was like 20% as popular, compared to baseball in the mid-80s.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But I was a huge Jordan fan. You know, played basketball as good. And like, so, you know, he was the greatest player at the time. You know, had his rookie season. I was, like, eight, seven. Then coming up, Oliver Bruton moves next door. Has the whole entire set of 86 Fleer basketball. No one had basketball cards.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like, again, you don't know how rare. Well, like, if you, 80s, I know they printed more than you realize, but they didn't print compared to baseball, it was nowhere near. So the fact that the next door neighbor had that set, I would literally go over there and just stare at them. Even then, and it didn't have the near the value they do now. I mean, they were worth a lot, but not nothing. I mean, you were talking about like Jordan, Rick, a couple hundred bucks, maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I don't know. Maybe. And I'd go over there just to look at them. I'd flip through, had the full, every card. It was like, and that how. rare that was. Like, there's no one, I didn't know anyone else that's even collected. I had basketball. He had those. I'd go there, stare at them and say, one day, I'm going to have that. And I had posters all over my room. And, but it, I remember that story mainly because he had
Starting point is 00:20:42 George. Yeah. I don't know if I would remember his name. I love you all of her, but, you know, you know, we, we, but we had different friends. We weren't hanging out as much. But he had those those cards and I really like to look at him. And I think I made, I don't know how much attempts to buy them. He never sold them. Damn it. I wonder if he's still, he's probably sold them by now and which is he hadn't because now that Jordan's. Yeah, because they were perfect. I mean, I don't know if that Jordan's
Starting point is 00:21:08 10, but they were men conditioned. So, grew up, always idolizing those cards. I could have bought it. Once I got back in the hobby, I mean, like, you know, a few years ago with boys and everything, could have bought that card. I don't buy that card. I mean, like, but I still,
Starting point is 00:21:25 we've had a couple walk in the store, some crazy stories, and different things, but still waiting on my version of that card. Yeah. But it is, you know, the iconic shot, the,
Starting point is 00:21:37 it's almost created a lore amongst, it's, sometimes you look at something like that is cool, but it's like, you know, the artwork on the Fleer on the, it's not, nothing that crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Is it classic? Sure. But let's not overstate it. That gold, the Fleer yellow, uh, yeah, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Uh, but, It's more of what it means and what it signifies. It tells a whole story of his career. He's in the air and he's going over everyone and he's about to dunk it. And it's like that's what he ended up doing to the entire industry. Yeah. And it's still doing.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And now his cards are just that much more valuable. But it was a chase then and a chase down. I mean, at the highest level. And it's, I don't know. I think it will go down. down is, and it's most people's top four or five, most iconic cards. Yeah, 52 Manel. I mean, yeah, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But the Honest Wagner, Mickey Mantle, this card. And then probably Ken Griffith. Yeah. Ken Griffey Jr., a rookie card. And so, which you talked about last week. Yeah. We've just been going down the list of junk wax cards that. that are really not junkwax.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Only the Jordan was ever dunk wax. The baseball ones maybe, but yeah. But it is a classic card. And one I will own in a very high grade at some point. Yeah, you want to spend, you know, between 300 and 800,000 for PSA 10. I'm going to find that thing like in a yard sale or something. I want to find, I got to discover it. I'm going to find Ryan, like hunched over.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Oh, man. I'm a sucker for a good binder. I spend hours going to the ones we already had. There was something back there that has an absolute terrible cards in it, but I still find myself spending 30 minutes. I'm like, what am I doing? I can't do it. I'm going through these binders.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And you're like, defensive linemen, defensive linemen. Yes. We will be having an episode come out. We talked about the Jordan jersey last week going. But Rob, go. am I spelling? Goff? Am I spelling?
Starting point is 00:23:58 I might to edit this appropriately. Yeah, I actually go. Yeah. Rob's. Rob. Rob. Rob. Who has the.
Starting point is 00:24:09 We'll be figuring out what the word. Anyway, we talked to Robb, who will be on doing an episode, who is the owner of the 19-93. Yep. Game three. Game three. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan game worn jersey. A lot of, like, statements there in one.
Starting point is 00:24:28 We did talk to him. Yeah, I wanted to ask him. I wanted to be like, okay, like, because he pulled up the Rodman jersey. He just like was holding in. He had the Rodman jersey from the same series. And like, I'm like, so is this Michael Jordan jersey? Is this like in your laundry basket?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yeah, like, is it just like on a hangar? Like, how are you preserving this? I was like, did you pick that up at Goodwill? Like, what, where did this come from? I did say, show us something. I knew he's already sent that one in to the auction house. But he had that. He had a card of Jordan who was in the jersey, you know, from that game.
Starting point is 00:25:05 He's got a ridiculous collection. Nice guy. Yeah. High lie as well. You didn't know how to be able to know that. I knew how to say it. I know. God.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I did sit some of Miami. It's like, it's a wild game. He owns a league for it. It's crazy. Oh, man. Yeah. But that jersey, it mixed the cars. It shows Jordan's, you know, icon nature in the hobby.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And I'm curious to see what else he does and how else he markets that. And what other crazy things the market does with him. No, we're going to, we'll break the news here, you know, what they pulled from it. But it was a fun interview. Yeah. All right, guys, we're cutting in here. It's football week. Football alerts here on Collector Nation.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I mean, a weird day for them to start the NFL season, but I think everyone's here for it. I know you were itching for the season to start. So, you know, a day early, who can complain, really? We get the defensive struggle that is every Seattle game. The Seahawks, I love them. Their defense is badass, but, man, it does make force a lot of punning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I mean, it was a good first game to really ring in the season. But, you know, Drake May couldn't hold off. He was doing good until, you know, three interceptions in the fourth quarter is a... I'll say this. Like, if I was drawing up, okay, what would make for good TV for the NFL? Like, if I'm, what do I want to happen? Two of your league's top 50 players go down with injuries. A.J. Brown and I said 50, maybe top 30, but A.J. Brown goes down.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Sam to Arnold goes down. Andrade may throw those three interceptions. It was a terrific game. Yep. Like, I mean, it was a good game, though. It was a great game. I'll get some hate milk. That's how it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It's not supposed to be offensive. No. But it was, it's kind of just took a little bit of same. Darno getting hurt. I was like. Unlike the first play. Yeah, first series. I was like, dang.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And it sounds like he's going to make it back this season. It's not going to be like maybe a few games, like a hit point or something. I don't know. They're getting X-rays, but it's not. He avoided the worst of it. They said that it wasn't a fracture, but he still still getting MRI and stuff. So let's talk about cards. Drake May's been sitting the last year is the highest valued quarterback in that 2024 class.
Starting point is 00:27:36 The last couple months, Caleb Williams has overtaken him. Hopefully my color blast continues to go up. He's not played very well when the lights are brightest. And he's priced like a franchise quarterback, like our high-end one. I don't know. Certain points of stats matter and the records matter. And they've definitely been better with him. And I still believe in Drake May,
Starting point is 00:27:59 but I'm not sure he's priced right. And I think you're going to start to see that because they got a tough early schedule. And he's been exposed a couple times. Look, Seattle's going to expose a lot of guys. There's nothing to be ashamed of. But three interceptions in the fourth quarter and two of them were really bad. It's just careless. You can do that against the Saints or the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:28:24 No offense, Saints or Cardinals, but much less Seattle, Super Bowl champs. And so it's time for him to start playing better when it really matters. I think it's also an interesting question of like, you know, obviously the Patriots have so much legacy with Grunk and Tom Brady. Like they have really, even in modern times, like carried the legacy of the Patriots. And I think that people really hoped that Drake May would kind of be the next wave of Tom Brady and would bring that level of excitement and level of domination that they had, you know, back a few years ago. I think that's on hold a little bit right now. But I'm saying I think that his cards probably reflect that a little bit because people were so excited about his prospects and the prospects of the Patriots having another legendary run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 He looks the part. Yeah. His name sounds the part. His play at times has shown that, but all in all, though, he's not quite there yet. And it's going to be interesting to see how his cards do because I don't know, a few of them, I want, I want him to do well. I'm no ill will towards him. I just, at a certain point, that last interception, man, you just can't, you, you kick a field goal and you tie the game.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You don't, you just throw it up. Like, you do that? It's like a, I don't know, a Clemson College. play. You know, like, sorry. Yeah, man, I'm eating my own dog food. Like, literally, it's time for him to play with. Look, is he going to get better without AJ Brown?
Starting point is 00:29:53 His top wide receiver is down with a high ankle sprain. I don't think he gets better without him. Yeah. So. But on the flip side, you know, I presume that his card market is going to be affected by this, at least in some aspect, especially. You'll see a little, I don't think he's got like tank, but it's, I think it'll dip a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:11 bit. It'll dip a little bit. But it's a good buy opportunity. Yeah, it could be a good buy opportunity. People are really silly. They real silly. I'll jump in and buy some. I'll buy some of that stock glass down because I do. But I believe, two things meet true.
Starting point is 00:30:24 We can have objective commentary about the reality of his last two football games and the reality of his record against better teams. The second thing can be true is that I do think he's got the ability in the goods to be what he's priced to be already, if not better. But, you know, you only get some of the opportunities and you got to start cashing them in. And it's, it's more the way like last night, like you just kidding. And lose the game for your team.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Like, Drake doesn't have to, didn't have to, the defense played well enough for them to win the game, you know, like, you don't have to go out there and be Superman, but you can't lose it either. So. And the part I kind of struggle is, like, the last interception could have. easily been avoided. And they could have tied the game. Realistically, they could have, and they didn't.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And so I feel like it's those easy mistakes and decision making that could be the issue. Yeah. I don't know. I'll see. I know. And Sam Darnold hopefully comes back. We'll see. I don't think it's going to impact his cards per se.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He's already underpriced. I think he's a good buy. I think they might win another Super Bowl with him. It's two times a world winner. Not a bad one to have to hold. But we'll see. We got games tonight. Games for rest of the week.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And it's excited as football season. I know. I'm excited to see all of my favorites, you know. Long as Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence win, we're good. When's their first game? This week, hey, Sunday. Sunday, Sunday. You know, Sunday, Sunday.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So you'll be flots on the couch. Yeah, I will be officially. Because we've got an event here on Saturday. And so we've got stuff going on, birthday. weekend, but Sunday's going to be Daddy Couch Day, I think. It was a football.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yep, fair. Machos. Beer, nap, maybe. Like, oh, oh, oh, sorry. Oh, Josh, go, Josh, go. No, I think your boys will keep me awake for that. True. Speaking of your boys, you went to Dave and Busters with them and
Starting point is 00:32:32 swept the Dave and Busters floor. You know, we used to live. of too close to Dave and Busters. We now live a little further out in the country. And the boys and I, we're just looking for something. We always go ahead. And we're really good at games there.
Starting point is 00:32:48 We give them the beat down. And Wednesday is this half price Wednesday. Let's just say, we do pretty well when it's not half price. Yeah, when it's half price, we clear that place out sometimes, all the, all the prizes. You're going to get kicked out for a card card card. Hey, in Greenville, Dave and Busters, they do a fantastic job. So go visit them.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Free promotion for those guys. Great weight staff, great food. That's why I like it. Like it's way better than you'll think it's going to be like from the food to the service to everything else. Just saying. Everyone's going to be laughing at you. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Promoting Dave and Busters. I know. And look, we went in there about 100,000 tickets in like an hour, something like that. And we go to, okay, what are we going to purchase? They have these surprise repacks. And everybody watching is going, Oh, surely he didn't fall for that. Well, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I know what's likely to be in here. But hey, I own a trading card company. And I'm in a couple of them like Pokemon occasionally. I like Pokemon. Yeah. And so I'm like, well, we don't want to see what I get here. And, hey, you get five hollow foils. Like, who's falling for that one?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Who's falling for that one? But lots of repacts. What are we going to open here? All right. Here, you get that premium gaming. surprise bag. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It may contain original sealed packs. Hollow and rare cards only. Yep. Okay. May contain. How much
Starting point is 00:34:21 did like if you were to buy these, was that an option? Like could you just buy them? Oh, no. I don't think so. I didn't really do the math on that. But low expectations is the way to come in with these.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah. That's, that's fair. Okay. The crappy singular repacks here. Yep. All right. Okay. So we got, and based on the packaging and backs, I'm going to guess that these are worth a whole lot of talk.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Okay. When you get a God pack, you're going to regret saying that. PSA Zero. Yeah, and this like settlement. Oh, yeah. Here we go. The Hollow four reverse hollows. We even get any.
Starting point is 00:35:07 X or And a whole lot of nothing on these four hollow cards. Wow. Not even. I mean, it's base, worse than mine.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Not about the same. But look, we have all these packs left. Four hollow cards. They need to work on their packaging a bit. Kidding? This is quality stuff here. Oh,
Starting point is 00:35:31 okay. And. Anything? No. Not even E.X. No. Wow. Not even...
Starting point is 00:35:38 No. Absolutely not. Choice belt. All right. It didn't even say that. On to the next thing. This is excitement only made for video
Starting point is 00:35:50 and YouTube television. Yep. Okay. This one... Here's the box. 30 previous release Pokemon five hollows, including five hollow foils. And we could get a redemption card.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Find the first edition Charzard. Hey. I'm counting on that. That one. It's probably a... Is there a decoder ring in here? Like, truly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Oh, boy. I gotta love a good hangar fact. How did you even get that out so fast? That was impressive work. Hey, he's got to know how to... I'm a professional Ripper. Are you kidding me? These hands have torn through more boxes.
Starting point is 00:36:27 This, this feels like a jumbo, fat nothing. We got some hollows and absolute. I mean, this would be really great for a kid. That doesn't overpaying for the crappiest cards in the set. So my brother, he was buying Pokemon cards off of Amazon. He was like, yeah, we're getting like, you know. Good hit. No, no, no, we're getting like.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Trashed. 500 cards for like 30 bucks. But I don't think they're real. And I'm like, they're probably real, but they're probably real. Literally, you could use them. They make some fakes too on there too. They're gold. Like,
Starting point is 00:37:09 my nephew had, he's like, this charge hard. This is thousands of dollars. I'm like, oh, buddy. I'm sorry. He kind of knew.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I think he just, you know, he could pull me. Well, I can bring these to, uh, my roommates title one school. The kids love them over there.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So, yeah, all you can eat. That's their prizes for good thing here. I don't know if I even, if we want to even get in on this. That was so demoralizing. If you go to Dave & Busters and you win tickets, I would avoid these.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Unless you want base cards. Not good. All right. Well, that's it for today. That's how the cookie crumbles. We appreciate you. We'll see on the next round. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
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