Collector Nation - This Kobe Card Went From $156K to $1.1M… Here’s What It Means for the Hobby
Episode Date: October 16, 2026A Kobe Bryant gold /10 BGS 9.5 went from $156K in 2022 to $1.1M in 2026. Ryan Alford and Bella explain why rising Hall of Famer prices signal a healthy, more stable card market, and how that’s diffe...rent from chasing rookie 1/1s. Download the Collector Nation app and visit thecollectornation.com for more. Ryan and Bella also break down the second MJ 1998 Finals jersey to sell for $14M (this one privately), Goldin’s Babe Ruth card vs. Ty Cobb photo result, and where things stand with grading and the PSA backlog. They close with Five Up, Five Down for NFL Week 5 and the latest Topps price hikes on Flagship Basketball and Cosmic Chrome. Topics Covered: Kobe Bryant gold /10 BGS 9.5: $156K (2022) → $1.1M (2026) Why rising Hall of Famer prices mean market stability, not gambling Second MJ 1998 Finals jersey sells privately for $14M Private sales vs. open auctions: why “the last comp lies” Goldin Fall Vintage Elite: Babe Ruth card vs. Ty Cobb Type 1 photo Grading: the PSA backlog, the value tier, and cost per card Five Up, Five Down: NFL Week 5 card market movers Fernando Mendoza’s debut patch going into a Topps 1/1 Topps Update Series markups over MSRP 2026 Topps Flagship Basketball (169.99)andCosmicChrome(489) price hikes Halloween special preview SPONSORS NordVPN: To get the best discount off your NordVPN plan - go to nordvpn.com/COLLECTORNATION- our link will also give you 4 extra months on the 2-year plan. There's no risk with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee! 🔗 Links Mentioned in This Episode Collector Nation Website: https://thecollectornation.com Download the App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/collector-nation/id6795562084 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecollectornation_ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thecollectornation YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thecollectornation Collector Station Website: https://thecollectorstation.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecollectorstation Ryan Alford Website: https://www.ryanalford.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanalford ⭐ Would you have held that Kobe card from 2022 to now? Tell us in the comments. Subscribe for weekly hobby news and market breakdowns. Download the Collector Nation app (iOS and Android) for real-time card alerts, and if you’re a verified creator, you can start earning. #sportscards #thehobby #collectornation
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A Kobe card that sold August of 2022 from Golden sold for $156,000.
That same card this October sold for $1.1 million.
Can you name a stock that has 7X?
There's probably some, but not many.
It's big, big jump.
And it's a testament to how crazy the Hobbies got, you know, big cards.
Kobe's an all-time great.
It's a 1 to 10 card, gold.
It's BGS 9.5.
Like, there's very few, if there's zero comparison for how scarce rare that car is with the player.
And there's so, you know, supply and demand.
The demand is an all-time high for all cards at all levels.
And the supply of this one is very low.
And it's never getting higher.
No.
Does get your mind wrapped around this, but where does it go from here?
But it probably goes up.
Yeah.
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You got Ryan and Bella here on October 16th.
It's soon to be the spookacular.
I know.
Something like that.
Yeah.
I'm still trying to figure out what costume I'm going to make you wear on our Halloween special.
Don't worry.
There'll be something in the mail arriving for you.
We have ghosts in our front yard.
That's how I know.
You know, my wife got peer pressured by all the neighbors.
Got it.
You have like a competition?
A very spooky celebrating Halloween celebrating neighborhood.
We didn't have anything.
So we got some dinky.
like, I don't know,
ghosts in the front yard.
Nash is happy, though.
Good. I'm sure he's excited to get candy.
I know I always love Halloween.
So excited to see what this Halloween brings.
Yeah, hopefully lots of treats for all the collectors out there.
Yeah.
Well, there was a treat for one collector in a private auction
hosted by Hunt Auctions,
another Michael Jordan
in 1998 game worn jersey sold on a private sale for $14 million.
And this is coming just two weeks after the game three jersey was sold by Rob Goff,
who came on the show.
And that sold for 12.6.
So that's a pretty interesting conundrum.
They didn't call me and asked me to bid or anything, you know?
Damn it.
I might have done 14-1.
You know, who knows?
I'm just shocked that, you know, we talk about comps
and obviously, like, memorabilia is different than cards
and the high-end card market is different comps and all of that.
But when a pretty much exact same jersey sold two weeks before
for over a million dollars less,
like that's where I'm...
Maybe they just like that game too better, you know?
Like, it was iconic, but I mean, I don't know.
I mean, that's the only thing I could think of.
Or maybe that was just the guy's price that he would sell it and the guy was willing to do it.
I don't know.
Who was the buyer?
Ron Furman, what have Ron Furman and ask him?
Made him want to pay a little up.
That's how crazy the market is.
We're going up one mill, you know, a week later, 1.2 mil later, a week later.
A week later, but it's a lot of money.
30 mil.
I think I'm rounding up.
We'll call it 30 mil, 25 mil, mil, more like it.
When those jerseys got made,
Just the thought that, you know, that those would be $25 million just a two that he wore, wasn't they?
I mean, the imposter syndrome must go crazy.
I mean, I'm sure by now he's, like, used to it.
But I'm sure he has moments thinking back and be like, wow, I was a kid playing pickup ball in my neighborhood, you know.
I think he did maybe 40 years.
I think Jordan's now knows he.
No, no, no.
But I'm sure he has some, like, reflection time.
I'm sure.
I would.
I'd be like.
Like, why do people care so much?
Practical, yeah, like your practical self would go.
Damn, that's a lot of money for my jerseys, my sweaty jerseys, you know.
Did they get washed before?
Like, how does that work?
I don't know.
It can't be washed or it loses value.
Yeah, you need the essence of the sweat, you know.
That comes with it.
That's encapsulated.
Yeah, that's why they're more than cards.
That's why it's sealed.
What's the PSA grade on that?
Oh, a little B.O.
Yeah. And it's interesting too because, you know, the Jupiter one was obviously an open auction. Anybody could bid on that. I know he had some private deals that, you know, he could have taken, but he did an open auction. But this wasn't an open auction. It wasn't public. And it still sold for more, which to me, I feel like would be kind of the opposite because, you know, one rich person bidding another against another rich person, you'd think it would just like go higher. I don't know.
I think this is where
Focus group won, opinion on, obviously.
We get to share our opinion.
We have the microphones, no matter how few or how many listen on a given week.
The point would be, I think golden like auctions bring that energy and maybe sort of that vibe of competition because of the types of people that go to it.
And Heritage does this a little bit because they have such a legacy and have so many people that bid on things.
And I don't, I'm not saying all these auctions are great.
I'm not judging them.
I'm just saying maybe the type of auction it was and the people that brought comparatively didn't bring the normal,
because I think you're right like you're normally ice and people.
It also means a lot of these guys are so wealthy.
They do their shit in private.
I mean, the fact they even name it, you know, you know how many deals go down.
You know, we trades go down that don't get announced.
Like, there was probably a million-dollar backyard deal between 22 billionaires last.
Hey, you know that Jordan PSA 10, you got half a mill.
You know, I got this Kobe you wanted.
I'm going to throw in a shack 101.
Yeah, now that his market's going on.
I mean, it's kind of like a trade night.
Yeah.
All the deals go down that don't get, there's no comps documented there.
And that's why last comp lies.
I wish you were wearing your last comp.
a lot of shirt.
I said,
I'm packed therapy.
I needed some therapy today.
I hope when we opened some packs.
But yeah,
I think it's just,
it's crazy.
There's a lot of money.
People have it.
Yeah.
And they like to spend it on jerseys.
Yep.
And speaking of a lot of money,
Golden actually did a fall vintage
elite auction where a bunch of
Jackie Robinson,
Babe Ruth cards were up for sale.
So Babe Ruth card sold
for $976,000, which was only $30,000 more than a TIECob type 1 photo.
It was a PSA certified type 1 photo.
But, I mean, we talked about this in the past, the difference between a card and a, you know, one of one photo for the card.
But, you know, the card only selling for $30,000 more.
I think talks a lot about what people value and, you know, that people really care about this little piece of cardboard and the quality of that piece of cardboard more than they will care about the photo.
And I'm curious that that will ever change.
I don't know.
I think there's just nostalgia for the cards and people growing up.
Like, no one had a picture, a real, you know, photographed, original picture of, of, of, you know, of.
these players growing up.
They had cards.
They traded with their friends and had tops logos or, you know, a certain design.
And so that nostalgia and familiarity, even if the image itself is the most iconic part,
is again, it's a sandwich of nostalgia.
You love a sandwich and knowledge.
It's a, you know, the images is a big part of it.
The image is probably the bread and the cheese, the best part.
and then you know you've got the toppings that go on on top of it which is the brand the rest of the outline the look of the card the familiarity of that from growing up and i think that that makes it more valuable in the broader mindset and so i think that's why it's value and even if the photo might be more the more rare object because there's only one of them but it doesn't it's nobody really wants jelly
They want peanut butter jelly and white bread.
For all the listeners,
I think Ryan's analogies 90% of the time
have to do with the sandwich.
And I don't know if that's a testament
to where your brain is 90% on the time.
Yes.
I like sandwiches and I'm always hungry.
Yeah, I agree.
Everyone out there's nodding, though.
They got it.
They thought it was stupid.
They got it.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And although the picture might be more rare,
I think what also can be equally as rare is cards,
you know, these Babe Ruth cards that are however many years old in good condition.
Yeah.
Because, you know, you really don't find that.
And it's like, you know, back to like junk wax.
And the junk wax is not necessarily rare,
but what makes it rare is the condition of the card.
And that's what makes it so valuable.
Yeah.
and there's only, you know, 10 copies that are in this premium of condition.
Rarity, scarcity, all that shit matters, you know.
Yeah.
And, you know, we're talking kind of about things that are wacky in pricing.
A Kobe card that sold August of 2022 from Golden, sold for $156,000.
that same card this October sold for $1.1 million.
I go so that'll be it right there.
Can you name a stock that has 7x?
There's probably some, but not many.
Seven X to that volume.
Yeah, it's big.
It's a big job.
And it's a testament to how crazy the hobby's gotten, you know, with big cards.
But it is back to the rarity scarcity.
Kobe's an all-time great.
It's a 1 to 10 card, gold.
It's, you know, BGS 9.5.
Like there's just no, there's very few, if there's zero comparison for how scarce,
rare that car is with the player.
And there's so, you know, supply and demand.
The demand is an all-time high for all-time cards.
it all levels.
And the supply of this one is very low.
Yep.
So.
And it's never getting higher.
No.
And it does get your mind wrapped around this.
Well,
where does it go from here?
But the answer to man,
this probably goes up.
Yeah.
So it's crazy, though.
It's,
I think we,
I think maybe some people get,
oh,
everybody's saying the hobbies,
you know,
they're tired of hearing that.
And or just they think that it's,
parrot it a lot. But it's just true.
Yeah. And every week. When you're looking at numbers like that.
Every week, the data supports it. And it's just you can't under sell or over talk about
7x something, you know, in four years. And it's one thing, you know, I'm sure cards 7X all the
time, which I mean like lower value cards. But a card of this magnitude over four years,
I like, it's almost like,
that's what I mean is top to bottom.
This low cars, high cars,
ultra high or seeing the increase.
It's crazy.
And I'm very interested to see, you know,
in another four years, like,
but I'll say this.
He was 14X in eight years.
Yeah.
Well, it may be, but I'll say this.
And there was a creator.
I've been thinking this, like trying to like really
encapsulate my ideas.
We talked last episode about how it's not available.
You know, like it's different than
Yeah.
More volume, more people in it, more stability and not just, you know, fake money.
It was real money, but, you know, government dollars from COVID and all that.
But I think cards like this actually signal health and not it's all going to go down.
And here's why Kobe's a Hall of Fame player, an all-time great.
and people are increasing the value.
When I see the Jackson Dart 101s, that's gambling.
Yep.
That's the definition of gambling.
This is the definition of investing in someone that's not going to go out and blow an ACL,
which is wise investing.
There's wisdom in investing in Shaq and Kobe and Michael and insert Hall of Famer here.
That's a more stable market in my mind.
And I think that's a signal that should be thought about,
well, okay, Jordans are going up and King of Greeners are going up.
And well, these are a Hall of Fame player.
That's why it's money.
That's investing in Apple.
That's investing in Coca-Cola.
Which I think is probably why the, you know,
we've talked about this in the past, too.
Max cards have not been comparable to what they should be.
For the amazing player that he was, they were kind of suppressed compared to where they
probably should be.
And I think it's because now we have investors and smart business people coming in, and
they're like, what the fuck?
Why are you betting your money here when you should be betting your money on people
who have actually proven themselves already?
And that's why we're seeing all these vintage cards go up crazy high, you know, percentages.
because you're having savvy business people come in instead of just the average collector.
Yeah, exactly.
So same point.
You know, it's a whole different way.
It's like, I think a more a sign of stability more than a sign of fake growth.
Yep.
Okay.
So, you know, biggest topic in the hobby.
Grading.
I like it.
We didn't need a voice for that.
You're welcome.
I'm learning from the best.
Yeah.
So, you know, PSA, they're obviously still not at that $5 million backlog that they said that they would potentially possibly maybe if they're feeling like it open grading back up again.
And I've never thought I'd heard the word backlog.
Like as many times.
Yeah.
And, you know, they're seemingly getting faster.
They're seemingly doing more cards.
And the numbers are saying, you know, this is how much is left in the queue.
But they're grading more cards.
But the queue numbers really aren't reflecting all that much.
It's a slow drain.
Yeah.
It's like dripping.
It's a really clogged drain.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, we got this thing going.
But if you're taking them in faster and you're kicking them out,
Are you really draining the water?
I don't know.
It's all about are they going to come back with value?
I mean, it's like the most number one search thing.
We see it on the website.
We see it in all the data.
Because you have all these people that have businesses and all these things based
off of $17 to $25 grading.
And other than a few blips with Beckett coming back and you've still got CGC,
but the date is what the date is.
you know, CGC can carry TCG, but it's a struggle with sports cars getting the value.
So people are just waiting.
And what I don't know is, let's just say the number, it's draining.
I mean, it's not going up more than it's going down because they're still taking them in.
There's an insatiable appetite for grading.
And I don't know how they aren't going to get swamped again because how many people are probably sitting on 300 cards that are waiting.
They're just like, I don't wait it out.
Especially if they're like older card or something that they've got the money in it and they know it 10xes, 5xes, 2xes, whatever it might be when that opens back up.
And they're sitting on it.
Completely true.
And, okay, if you're a business owner and you're probably at least making the same amount of money you were when value tiers were open versus now with the price is higher.
But you have to deal with less cards that are bullshit cards that should.
didn't have been sent in anyway.
Yeah.
Why would you open to the backup?
Well, they're in the business to make money and to serve clients.
So as long as they're profitable, what I was thinking about last night, I figured we were going to talk about this.
And I was going, it'd be interesting.
This is where the business side of me gets going.
What's their cost per card graded?
And so.
Can't be very high.
Well, it can't be.
But I just was curious.
Like, how long does it take a grader?
How much do they get paid?
I was doing their overhead.
The PR, the negative PR they have to fight off.
Like, how many hours are wasted on employees reading these orders?
Yeah.
Lawyers, exactly.
What's the break even for them?
Is it $15?
Is it $10?
I don't know.
They'll never tell us that.
No.
Especially as a private company.
But that would be fascinating to know.
That is a very good point.
And, you know, a lot of people obviously don't think about that when they are thinking about their cars.
They're just, because everybody thinks about themselves.
Yeah.
But sometimes understanding the other side is the best way to get the answer and the, what you desire.
Yeah.
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But I mean, at the end of the day, I think they're probably making about the same amount of money that they
were if they kept value grading open.
Yeah, well, they're still,
there might be just be spending on the money
they got paid for the cards that aren't graded yet.
Think about that part of it.
Yeah.
It's all prepaid.
It's like taking prepayment on $10 million.
I'm going to sell $10 today.
Let's look about the hypocrisy and the craziness of this.
I'm going to pre-sell everything in this store,
but you ain't getting it.
I'm keeping it.
And I'm going to get it to you whenever the hell I can
or I feel like it.
Yep.
That's the equivalent of this is.
No, that's true.
And, you know, they can't help getting backed up.
Would you like some cheese with that wine?
Like, this is the world's tiniest violin player.
Like, I don't think it's PSA.
No allegiance or no hatred.
It's just stating facts.
They got to sell all of it.
That's some damn good business right there.
You get to sell it.
You get all the revenue in.
Eh, we'll fulfill it as soon as we can.
We're doing our best.
And people can't complain because there's nowhere else to go.
Drink a cigar, goes to get, you know, take it out to dinner by the vendors that still kiss their ass because they're the number one.
It's a good life for PSA, you know?
Yeah.
But look, I mean, they earned the brand.
They've earned it.
Like they 10x, 5X, no one does the cards what they do.
So, you know, I don't.
Hey, hats off to them for that.
So, especially when you can take everybody's money and they're not being more outrage.
they're just they're just they're just they get to mine so that my card goes up please please
get to mine you take more of my money take more of my money i'll wait two years i'll wait three
years i don't care take my money how fucking crazy is it it's a it's a wacky world of hobby yeah
and and what really kills me is that you know you send in a card worth ten thousand dollars
and if it grades at ten they zip it right through so that they can get more money because
It was a $10,000 card.
Exactly.
And then they wanted to buy it from you.
And then they're like, hey, we'll buy this one from you.
And they didn't put it in their vault.
It's the world's greatest.
I don't know what to call it.
But it's, this is, there should be an episode of sign.
If Seinfeld was still on, this is the soup Nazi.
No soup for you.
No grade for you.
You won't say sound like, you'll wait.
You'll wait two years for a card.
I get to a card when you are.
Like, it's like, it's insanity.
Because that card is, that soup is so good.
They will wait in that line.
They will pay double.
They will beg, borrow, steal, and pray to the PSA gods.
I'm serious.
It really is that way.
No, I mean, you're not wrong.
And we just get so, like, used to it.
We're like, oh, it's all good.
But they take 10 million people's cards or how many, 10 million backlog,
take all the money on the front end, and we'll get to it when we get to it.
No big deal.
No other business can operate like that.
None.
This is the hobby.
Yep.
And we're all living in it.
So five up, five down for NFL week five.
Last week I said I still believe I ended with, I don't sell too much.
I still believe in direct May.
He's coming back.
Here we are.
Drake May is back, baby.
One point two times more sales, more volume, right prices going back up.
He got out of whatever slump.
I heard him and his wife made up.
They kissed.
He stopped being a jerk over taking the trash out, whatever it was.
Now, you're right.
He's back in business and looking good.
He beat the bills who looked really good on Monday night there.
Really wacky game.
We didn't even talk about that.
We'll get to that in a second.
But Drake May's back.
Bucky Irvin's running wild.
He ran all over Dallas.
So does everybody else.
Selling two times his normal volume.
Yeah.
And look, we used to have a really cool Bucky Irving.
I think we sold it.
I love that.
He sounds bucky.
It just looked cool.
I like bucky.
He's a tough runner, man.
I would not want to get run over by him.
And James Winston, you just never know.
James, famous James.
He, I love the guy.
But I also speak the truth.
He could throw seven interceptions or seven touchdowns,
and you don't know which one it's going to be any given week.
But damn, you got to love, I love his energy.
I love him when he's on the mic.
I just know the reality is he can flip something.
That's why he's a backup.
He had starter talent, got a cannon of an arm, smart guy, but always a little reckless.
And I never understood why he couldn't quite put it together to be a starter full time.
But he's rocking and rolling.
That was a weird game.
So he's up because he's playing a lot.
So this plays into what we talked about.
James is in the news a lot because he's the starter now.
And when you're a starter, you're going to sell more cards.
Obviously.
Especially when you play good enough.
and he played good.
He's helped them, you know, win some games with that damn game.
I don't know what Jaden Daniels was thinking,
but that was the most absent-minded 40 seconds of football I've seen in 20 years.
They literally had the Giants beat.
All they just kicked the field goal, kneel it, and they're going to kick it.
And he wasn't paying anything to the clock, the clock ran out and they tied.
It was, yeah.
Wild.
That's stupid mistake.
Something to point out about his car.
market though.
You know, we're saying 1.5 times his normal pace.
His normal pace is already pretty bad because he was a backup like you were just like.
So, you know, he's had 104 sales.
Yeah, 104 sales in the last 30 days, 33 in the last seven days.
So, you know, going to keep us honest.
In comparison to Drake May that's 3,000.
Yeah, going to keep us honest.
But, you know, still worth noting that people like the headlines, you know, people like that.
We also have Pukinakua, which I just love saying.
his name, 1.1 times his normal pace, and George Pickens also at 1.1 times.
And the numbers aren't humongous, but they do point to trends that tend to start to get
to follow.
So I said, I would take this directionally more than absolute go make a move on it.
Yeah.
But hook is good.
I mean, every time he catch the ball, I was like, why are they playing so far off him?
Well, I know why, because he probably, you know, cut and go buy one of the DPs.
But, yeah, Josh Allen pulled through because he's the greatest.
So our five down for the week, starting with Mr. Ashton.
Yeah, this should be the whole Raiders team.
Ashty and the Raiders, down.
Jalen Hurts and the Eagles, down.
Justin Sherbert, Herbert, A-bear.
All of you want to pronounce it.
All down.
0.7 times they're normal.
Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.
And Christian McCaffrey.
Why the hell is Chris?
I mean, he has, this is an interesting one.
And as the train goes by, I'm just going to talk right through it.
Yep.
You're getting the taste of collector station with train.
Christian's down, I think it's more of a stats thing.
He just hasn't done a ton.
He's been solid, but not, been steady, but not spectacular.
They're 5'0.
So I have another argument.
I think that his card market was already kind of inflated.
and it's actually just leveling out.
Yeah.
His stats aren't necessarily amazing,
but they're not bad on paper.
They're fine.
And, you know, he's an established enough player
that, like, one bad game,
a couple bad games shouldn't really impact
his card market all that much.
So I really think it was just already a little inflated
because it's only selling 0.9 times its normal pace.
So it's not like a crazy blip.
I think it's a shallow, shallow dip.
And that's my...
I think that's a good argument.
And I think Jackson and Smith and Jigua had a lot of pomp and juice and increase at the beginning of the year.
And they're playing fine.
He's playing good.
But yeah, not the spectacular like this leak.
And then they made people fading off, maybe unloading a few.
The bandwagoners are like, why did I buy seven Jackson Smith and Jigwas?
Yeah.
That's what's happening there.
I do want to point out Mendoza had his NFL debut.
Yeah.
Or not PSA.
Topps already, you know, came out that the patch that he was wearing is going right in a one-of-one card, obviously.
Obviously.
But now it's not 100% speculation on his performance.
It has a little ounce of playtime that people can now base it off of.
Did you watch that game?
I did.
What did you, did you like what you saw?
Or were you kind of like, that was mid?
I, uh, I, I watched the replay to that one.
I was busy watching like seven games or,
I don't even know what was going on during that,
but they were getting beat so bad.
It was like, yeah, I watched the replay.
It was kind of given a flaming pile of,
yeah, exactly.
Like, how many, what was it, 36 to 7 or something?
I don't know.
And, but I did watch Puka catch 17 passes, you know, on 24.
It was like, every time he, there's Puka, there's Puka.
Can we guard him?
There's Puka.
Like, okay.
High time can I say Pooka, I don't know.
But I about one of Dupuka if the builds would have lost.
Overtime.
Another overtime game.
Yeah.
It was a good game.
All right.
Switching up today, we're recording this on a Wednesday.
The Topps Update series for baseball came out.
And I can't even keep up with, you know, series one, series two, update series.
I'm like.
and Cole was like, I don't get why they have the holiday parallels in them already,
being as they have a holiday set coming out soon.
Anyway, but these had a crazy markup.
I mean, they're marked up over $100.
Yeah.
From what they, you know, MSRP is.
Yeah, I mean, you've got all the World Series coming up, starts this week, the end of the week.
and basically any of the guys that got brought up will be in this.
So that's the whole point.
And then it gives them a chance to reprint everything and sell more cards.
Yep.
With a new outfit or a new new outfit.
You got a new outfit on in here.
New Jersey outfit.
New Jersey outfit.
But yes.
And so essentially it's the ability to print again and sell more.
And then a few new prospects that have come up and we can put them in their official first uniform.
Call them a rookie maybe.
Sometimes not.
A 10th year rookie.
Yeah.
He's been in the Meyer League's 47 years and he's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's an interesting release.
What else we got on?
Something else.
So flagship basketball is coming out November 5th.
Yes.
That's ordering for that.
Last year, the same product sold for $1,19.
$19.99.
This year, selling for $169.99.
For hobby?
Or for what box that?
I think it is hobby.
I'm not sure.
It is hobby.
Hobby flagship, yeah.
So hobby flagship, yes.
So from the get-go, already 55% higher.
Hey, that license phase off, baby.
That's crazy.
And then Cosmic Chrome coming out November 4th, last year.
year was $329, and this year, $489.
Oh, yeah.
48% increase.
You got to pay them bills, baby.
And, like, I don't think people are really, like, because, you know, I don't remember
the price of a shirt I thought last year.
No, that's what we're here to remind them.
Like, that is crazy for the same, pretty much.
I mean, like, we'll round that, we'll average that to 50% increase year every year.
I mean, you know, like, you got a license got to be paid for somehow.
So what is it going to be next year?
All those lawyer fees with Panini.
We got to get that.
Fair.
I guess.
Yeah, fair.
But yeah, that, you know, I don't know what else to say after that because where can you go from there?
I mean, next year is it going to be.
$250 for the extra relic that you may or may not get.
Hey, that's where the box prices seems to end up anyway.
So Tops is just taking it from where it ends up.
Yeah.
So see, here's what's happening.
Oh, it was 125.
And then when it comes, by the time it hits market.
And it gets to the dealers that's worth $250.
And they're selling it for $250.
Topsoil, we're going to start taking some of that back.
We're going to take, we'll just put it out of $250 next year and see if, well,
if it goes to $3.50, well, then, okay, you can make your $350 until we take $50 more of it, the following year.
And essentially, you'll eventually get to a point, but clearly there's room because all of it sells out.
I know.
They sell every box.
I mean.
And, I mean, they don't really care because, like, you know, at the end of the day, they're
giving their allocation to the stores and the stores are the ones that have to deal with it and sell it.
Yeah.
And it's not a hard product, a hard thing to do most of it.
There's some of it that sits a little bit longer.
But they've already sold all of it.
Yeah, exactly.
They move it.
They have zero.
It's a real good cash count.
I'll tell you, it's a good business.
That's why Michael Rubin's Michael Rubin.
And, you know, can't knock.
He knows what he's doing.
They know what they're doing.
I mean, it's a good time to be in the hobbies, a good time to have licenses.
and some people see that earlier than others and it move on it and they get to charge what the hell they want for boxes and people keep buying it.
Yep, exactly.
It's kind of like PSA.
Like I'm sort of joking.
Like, I'm not making them out to be the villain.
I'm more sort of mocking everyone that bows to them.
Yeah.
Because why wouldn't they hate that way?
Yeah.
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