Collector Nation - Why Digital Collectibles Are The New Sports Card Boom (NBA Top Shot + Ludex)
Episode Date: November 7, 2025SUMMARY In this episode of the Trading Cards and Collectibles Podcast, host Ryan Alford welcomes Jacob Eisenberg from NBA Top Shot to discuss the latest digital rookie drops, including highly anticipa...ted one-of-one moments and exclusive player partnerships. They explore the synergy between physical and digital collecting, highlight market growth, and share insights on recent sports events like the Dodgers’ World Series win. Co-host Brian Ludden joins to analyze trends and app data, while listeners are invited to participate in a giveaway and share their favorite collectibles. The episode blends hobby news, market analysis, and community engagement. TAKEAWAYS The evolving landscape of collectibles, both physical and digital. The upcoming NBA Top Shot release featuring rookie digital collectibles. The significance of scarcity in digital collectibles and its impact on value. Market trends in the collectibles industry, including sales growth statistics. The role of technology in tracking collector behavior and market trends. The impact of major sports events, like the World Series, on collector engagement. The relationship between digital and physical trading cards and their coexistence. Insights into specific rookie players and their collectible moments. The importance of community and engagement in the collectibles space. A listener giveaway related to collectibles and engagement with the audience.
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Welcome to the Trading Cards and Collectibles podcast on the Radcast Network.
From Chasing Grails to Colin Bluffs and going inside the hobby.
Are you ready to collect?
Let's get at it.
Here is your host, Ryan Alford.
Hello and welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles here on the Radcast Network.
You're home for the hobby?
Yes, it is indeed.
And the hobby crosses many spans, many gals,
many galaxies from the physical to the digital. That's why I got my good buddy here. Jacob Eisenberg,
he is the head of community of NBA, top shot and dapper labs. What's up, brother?
Ryan, thanks so much for having me. How you doing? I'm good, man. Hey, talking collectibles,
fidgett, digital, you name it. I like to talk it. So I'm happy as it be.
Awesome. Yeah. Likewise, I'm obviously carved out my lane as a kid as the baseball card collector in the friend group. And I'm so lucky to have been able to continue that passion and that hobby my whole life. And now getting to work on the next frontier of collectibles and the digital space has been a dream come true. And it's been really awesome to see the entire space really develop over the past five years.
It's a fun space, man. It's booming. It's doing well.
You've got, you know, old money, new money, kids, adults, people like me that had it on the shelf for, you know, 25 years coming back into it with my boys.
It's a fun time.
And, you know, I talk to, I get, you know, the pleasure of talking to guys like yourself that, you know, get to make a living, doing, you know, things that they love in the collectible space.
And I don't know, it's not lost on me that we get to do things that, I don't know, as a kid, you.
you to go on that, that'd be pretty fucking cool.
Yeah.
And again, I need to emphasize to your audience.
I love trading cards.
I very much subscribe to the belief that the future of Topshot is not in contrast with
trading card.
I think they're going to grow together.
And I don't think you have to be a trading card collector or a Top Shot collector.
I think you could be digital, physical.
You can do it all.
My good friend Gary Vee would tell me, this is and not four.
Exactly. Let's get to the good stuff, maybe.
Like, we got some drops happy.
On November 5th, Wednesday, we are having our first drop of the NBA season.
And we are excited.
There are a bunch of reasons to be excited.
We can start with the obvious, right?
We, as NBA Top Shot, are dropping the first ever digital collectibles from Cooper Flagg, VJ Edgecom,
Dylan Harper, Cedric Howard.
It is a loaded rookie class.
If you're a follower of the NBA, you know how touted.
this class was coming in.
And guess what?
They're not only living up to the hype,
they're exceeding the hype.
And NBA TopShod has partnerships
with Cooper Flagg,
Vijay Edgecom, Yang Hanson,
Cedric Howard. A lot of these top
rookies were partnering with
leading in with them,
trying to be part of their day one experience.
And what that means is you as collectors
are going to reap the benefits
because you're getting custom inscribed signatures
on these moments.
So in Cooper Flagg's case,
there's going to be a,
one of one, his rookie ultimate. It's a highlight reel from his entire rookie debut game.
He had a double double in the game. That moment is going to be in the cases that are dropping
tomorrow. There are only 100 cases drop in. They're going for 2,500 out of a pop. And those are going to be
super, super in demand because you have a 1% chance. If you get the case, there's a 1% chance
you're going to get the Cooper flag. And just to kind of give your audience maybe some perspective.
the Victor Wembenyama one of one rookie ultimate from two seasons ago,
that went at auction for $145,000.
So there is a steep kind of demand for these rookie ultimates.
And Cooper Flagg, of course, by far better than any prospect from last year's class.
So it's very exciting to kind of have a resourged rookie class like that.
So there are cases similar to trading cards.
The cases contain a bunch of packs.
and within those cases, there are also what are called case toppers,
where you get some guaranteed inserts in the case.
So if you buy a case, for $2,500, you get 10 packs plus a bunch of case toppers,
which are guaranteed inserts.
Now, at the more accessible price point, we have the packs themselves,
which contains six moments.
Those are going for $50.
In every pack, you're guaranteed at least one rookie debut moment.
these rookie debuts are minted to 1,000.
So all in across rairs, commons,
legendaries, ultimate,
Cooper Flag is going to have fewer than 1,700 total collectibles
in his rookie season on Top Shot.
And there will never be another rookie moment
from Cooper Flag coming out later.
Once these 1700, I think it's actually 1682,
once these 1682 are released, that's it.
And there will be a little bit of mania about that.
And of course, it's not just Cooper.
You've got the VJ Edgecomfactor, scored 34 points in his debut game,
the most points scored by an NBA rookie in their first game since Wilts Chamberlain in the 1950s.
Yang Hansen, the most touted Chinese prospect since Yao Ming, of course, in the crypto space,
China is really important.
In the NBA space, China is really important.
There's a lot of reasons to be excited about this drop tomorrow.
And then in between the packs, which are going for 50, and they're going to be.
be 5,000 of those packs available. And the cases where they're only 100, and those are going for
2,500, there are also boxes. And these boxes are going for 250 bucks. They contain five packs and
two box toppers, so guaranteed inserts in the boxes as well. And those are going for 250. So if the
packs are a no-brainer at 50, then the boxes are even more of a no-brainer because you get five packs,
same price, but you're getting two additional guaranteed insert box toppers. This is the only place.
to collect and trade off of players' first buckets,
and the players are watching the moments back
and getting excited about it.
It is the true top shot.
That's right. Exactly.
Jacob, I know your time is short.
Where can everybody get their hands on this stuff digitally
and learn more about all of this?
Yeah, so the pack marketplace will probably be your best bet at that point,
just like in trading cards.
You can buy a pack and you can flip that pack later.
So pack market.
is going to be ripping. We anticipate
if you're not able to get on primary
because we do anticipate a fast sell out here,
go to NBA Topshot.com,
go to the marketplace. You can sort by
the PACs marketplace and find the PACs.
What's really awesome about digital
is you get that transparency.
So when a big
moment is pulled from the PAC, you know
it, and you can actually go to a pack
what's called a PAC listing, and you
can see all the hits that still have yet to be
pulled from that pack. So if
you want to kind of speculate on,
buying 10 packs at a time and, you know, deciding what to do with them as other people are ripping them.
You know, it's truly a deflationary asset because as more packs get opened, there are fewer remaining unopened just in too.
Yeah.
So definitely go to NBA Topshot.com.
Drop is happening Wednesday, November 5th.
We're doing drops.
The drop tomorrow starts at 3 p.m.
There are going to be some pre-order windows that are about half hour to an hour in length for the cases and the boxes, which will allow everyone to be able to put in orders.
The packs will be available on a first-come-for-served basis.
And after tomorrow, the next big drop is going to be December 3rd.
And that's going to be a big one as well.
More top plays from rookies.
And by that point, we're going to have some one-of-ones coming out from some NBA superstars as well.
So it's good time to get in as you were saying, Ryan,
and I'm so grateful and appreciative for you having me on.
Jacob, it's been a lot of fun.
It's gotten me excited.
I know everybody else will be.
Congrats on everything.
I look forward to doing this again soon.
Thanks so much, Ryan.
Anytime.
Looking forward to it.
The Dodgers won the World Series,
and we already know that Lodex has the world's greatest scanning app.
They're so predictive.
They even have the World Series locked in as the champion.
That's just how predictive the software is.
That's how smart it is.
Actually, you know what?
I think it's B-L-I.
Brian Ludden Intelligence.
It goes to show you that the app is keeping up with real-time behaviors of what traders and collectors are doing based on what's happening in the market.
Collectibles trading market sales are reported up 101% year over year.
Those numbers are just baffling, but this industry keeps getting bigger and bigger.
It just does.
It's fun.
It's fun to watch.
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Brian has his tip of the cap.
He's about to go hit the round white ball around.
And supposedly it's not going to go too well,
but I'll let Brian give commentary here live before he goes to the course.
Yeah, it's going to be a fun one playing Austin Country Club,
which is super exclusive.
a lot of the PGA guys are on it, members there.
And I'm not good at golf, man.
I had five back surgeries.
I played baseball, which I was, and I probably played 25 rounds in my life.
I'm more of a fisherman than a golfer.
So I feel like for me, this is like such a wasted experience.
It's like, I want to come do that, you know?
Yeah, you could, you should come down here, right?
Get on your private plane and come down here.
I will land right in on the ninth fairway.
Is it a have a tarmac there right in the middle of the course for all the rich people to fly in?
Yeah.
I've heard good.
That's a sick course.
I know some speed that others are members there, play regularly.
So I'm jealous a bit.
But, you know, you'll have a good time.
Just get the beers flowing.
That's true.
early and off
early and often
it's called
I call that the swing oil
get your back loosened up
golf is a lot of fun
if your back hurts though
I will admit that
I've had
when I've had back pain before
it's like the last thing you want to do
I actually had the same exact
surgery as the tiger's head
oh really yeah
okay well he's like one
what night less than one percent
or you know like athleticism
uh
mortals like you're like
you and I that have those kind of surgeries
probably don't ever like get back
to swinging club the right way.
No, and I don't think he's running
like a tech company
or
Mark and Mogul.
Like he's actually working
every single day.
Yeah, exactly.
It's been a great
week for sports.
Unbelievable World Series finale.
I don't know. It was awesome.
Brian and I talked, but you know,
my four boys and I
I watched that game seven.
It was just like, you know, it rekindled a little bit of me for baseball.
And it's probably our, in the Alford family, low on the totem pole.
But it was us and 26 million other viewers, a big deal.
Yeah, that was it.
That game was insane.
I watched it with my kids too.
It was like every pitch mattered.
Both teams balled out.
And, you know, you just feel bad for the Canadian national team.
They had it, and then it goes back to the big old Dodgers, which, I mean, I couldn't believe it went to seven, but I just thoroughly enjoyed that game.
I did too.
It's a great series.
And, you know, actually, you know, while I think the baseball game in general are a little slow, especially during the regular season, I don't know.
But I sort of appreciated the pauses a bit during games that, like just the, almost had to catch my breath.
You know, it's like, because it was kind of edged the seat the whole, I don't know, the last three, four innings.
And the Dodgers just, I don't know, it sort of felt like, is Canada just going to always be second to the U.S.?
Sorry, if you Canadian listeners out there, I'm just kidding a little bit.
But it kind of felt like there was this inevitability that L.A. was going to win.
I don't know for me.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That would have been their second world series.
And then I think the last time the Maple Leafs won was like in the 50s or 60s.
So, I mean, it would have been like pretty interesting to say that their MLB team has two world championships before their national.
The team that's like the most popular in Canada barely wins at all.
And it was the unsung heroes that kind of won it.
You know, it wasn't
Otani.
I mean,
Otani had a good series overall,
I guess,
but like,
just it was like the last guy,
like number nine batter.
Like,
it's like,
and that's how it goes.
Yeah.
Just how it goes.
I mean,
in baseball,
it's like the unsung heroes.
Who's going to step up,
you know,
who's going to play above their,
you know,
punch above their weight class and it's all clutch.
It's all too out of it.
You know,
it's defense.
But you're right.
You're exactly right.
Those guys,
were not the ones that
Vegas had in hitting home runs
to win the game. Exactly.
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The good news is on the football side, all my teams won.
The bills took out the chiefs, i.e.
the death star.
And it was like,
you know,
we'd captured,
we crushed the Death Star.
This was like Star Wars stuff,
you know.
Kansas Chiefs are kind of the Death Star.
You know, like,
I was rooting for your bills for sure.
Jacksonville One had to be,
you had to be Oakland.
I still call them Oakland.
I'm not going to call them Las Vegas.
Oakland Raiders.
Oakland,
Las Vegas,
LA Raiders.
My boy was sick, but he took him down.
Trevor Lawrence, I got my, I'm rocking my Jacksonville hat today.
So go tigers.
It's a rough season for Clemson.
But vicariously, through all the pro players, I'll support all the Clemson.
So then the Bears, my Bears, your Bears, hey, pulled it out in the strangest game.
I think I've ever watched.
That game was, I mean, I was watching with my boys, and we went from watching the World Series,
get up the next day and watch that.
I've never seen a football game like that.
But I guess what happens when you have like two terrible defenses.
I mean, the bears are decimated.
The Bengals, I think, are just bad.
But maybe they should do that.
Like, maybe take like a defensive player off the field
because it's way more exciting when these points go up.
Yeah.
Was it 40?
Clemson lost a Duke in football 46, 45.
and was it something similar what was the final like in the bears something similar to that like 47 47 I mean it was very tight and but back and forth you had defenses it's weird watching the bears suffer I mean suck on defense you know I know there's been years but you always just sort of think of them as you know at least defensively sound and I know it's the injuries and everything else but the bingles have always kind of sucked the last three or four years.
defense. So that's not a surprise, but it was a wild game.
Yeah, the bears are like the opposite, but what they normally are.
Their offense puts up points. Their defense can't stop anyone.
So, but, you know, it wins and win in the NFL.
47, 42. Bill will save the day.
I knew it was in the 40s. That's a strange score for the NFL.
You don't see games like, I mean, one, a,
that probably the only game of the year where both teams scored in the
40s. Like, it's not typical.
But anyway, they won, you know, also won.
JJ McCarthy came back from injury and they took out the lions, man, 27, 24.
Yeah, Coach O'Connell, every time there's a quarterback there, they get better and better.
I mean, he was with Mac Joe, he was with Daniel Jones was there.
the guy playing for
Seattle, Sam Darnold was there.
AJ looks pretty good.
I think he's just like the quarterback whisper.
Sam Darnold's tearing it up.
I mean, unbelievable.
He had a single incompletion in the first half.
And he was like, I don't know,
his QB rating is like 140 or something.
I don't know.
He's having like MVP caliber.
Seattle looks dangerously good.
Like, I don't know where they.
They came out of nowhere for me.
I didn't expect it.
But they're nasty on defense, highly competent on offense.
And anyway, really surprised me.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're a well-rounded team for sure.
The, who else?
The Panthers.
The Carolina Panthers did not think I definitely didn't see them beating Green Bay at Green Bay.
Sign me up is shocked.
You're shocked.
I was shocked at the uniforms that Packers wore.
Those things were the ugly uniforms I've ever seen.
You played football.
When you look badass, you play badass.
When you look like they look like fools out there.
And I mean, I was like, you should lose this game just because of those uniforms.
They were ugly.
And they did.
but so leading us into what's our Loddx scans of the week we got what are our trending players
that we got going on this week i'm sure correlates with some of the stats that things we've
been seeing in the the pros yeah i mean we got we got two pieces good good pieces of information
um one what we did is we went back to the beginning of the season of the season
and took three Dodgers players and where their cards were trading in the beginning of the season,
where they're trading now.
And the pitcher, Yamano, Yamanado, Yamanado.
Is that how you say it?
Yeah.
I have a struggle with it as well.
So he was, his card was trading 330 bucks.
Last sale was over $1,000.
Wow.
So you invested him in early, you're up 218%.
And then the closer, I believe it's the closer, is started at $35.
And now he's 115, and that's 200, over 200% again.
And then Clayton Kershaw, just based on his retirement and, you know, the likability of him, he's up 183%.
So, I mean, if you think about it.
about that opportunity.
World Series bump.
Yeah, the World Series bump.
Yeah, no doubt.
And then we got like the football.
And, you know, these all make sense to me this week.
So Jacobi Brissette, those Cowboys are bad.
But they increased 123%.
And he went from unranked in the training players to 123.
Brock Bowers, you saw that and he played against your team.
He was nasty.
he's up 82%.
He went from 123
on the most
the trendy players to
56.
56, yeah.
And then the final
one is
let me see here.
Rico Dowdoll is what I'm seeing on my notes.
Yep, go ahead. You do it because
my computer. Yeah, Ricka, I know you're
Brian, look, this is real time.
This is real.
He is in the hotel room and willing to even get on with you before he goes,
one of the greatest country clubs in America.
And, yeah, so Rico Dowdell went from $37 to $70.
So you got to double, pretty much doubled his prism silver.
Rico Dowder played at South Carolina, the Gamecox.
I mean, Clemson, we don't really care for the Gamecox, but that's where Rico Dowdell played.
And so Scan increases, he went, his trending player from one.
149 to 76.
So if you had pre-season Rico Dowdle and your top 100 scans, call me surprised.
Like, and he's a hell of a player.
He is a good player, but I did not see that coming.
He's having a heck of a year and looking good.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Thanks for the, you know, that's why you and I are good teammates.
Yeah, hey, that's what it is.
Brian and Brian.
You know, we look after each other.
But that's your market movers on Lodax.
So get out the, hey, we're giving you these trends.
Yeah, and they've already made jumps,
but we're giving you information and knowledge so that if you're looking to make some moves,
you can make them again because I think some of these guys look like it's not just a one-week trend.
It looks like, I mean, Jacoby Brissette is surprisingly,
I've always thought he was pretty competent as a backup.
But it's going to be interesting with Arizona what happens.
I don't know what it is.
Like, Collar Murray is an unbelievable talent.
But it always just seems like it's something.
I don't know what it is.
I don't pretend to know if he's malcontent or cancer.
I don't know enough knowledge, but it's just something's just not right there.
I don't know what it is.
And Bressett coming in and having the numbers.
I don't know the Cowboys suck, but, you know, especially their defense.
But still, Cowboys should be beating Arizona's backup, right?
Yeah.
And instead, Brissette's having a big year.
The Aldo's having a big year.
And we're giving you the trends before.
Danny Dimes, hey, if you want to respond, hey, Danny Dimes got beat by Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh beat up on them, but maybe they have formula.
Ah, so fast, I think they're, Indianapolis has too many players, too many good guys.
there'll be a bounce backs.
So I'd buy those Danny Dimes this week.
They probably dropped a little bit.
Because everybody's going, oh, the real Daniel Jones is coming back.
No.
I'm not saying he's a perennial every year all pro.
But he was a number one draft pick, you know, top draft pick for a reason.
And I think he's closer to what he's been this season than people give him credit for.
So we'll see.
But all of this is in the Loddx app.
You can see these trends and hear them right here.
on TCC.
All right, so we started
to open this pack. We've never seen
this is a white player
Pokemon. We've never seen the
first card being, I think, in illustration
rare, so this is
clearly a God pack. So we're
admittedly coming in.
All right, go through each one. One.
Wow.
This is awesome.
I've never seen only never got one.
How many packs will we open?
How cool is that?
Every card.
That is awesome.
Wow.
Every card.
That is cool.
Look at that.
Everyone.
How many packs have we opened and never gotten one?
So I was just, I never opened.
As soon as I opened, I was like, I saw that, or this guy, and I was like,
so it was white flare, how cool is.
that they
I just thought
people made that up
now we've got up
Brian our bracket
from the World Series
we talked that L.A.
won the title
and lo and behold
what do we have on our
our LuddX
championship bracket?
The Dodgers won
the LuddX trophy
and they had
6,000 more scans
than the Yankees
and that is
that is not
Man, that is nothing.
That's like half, what, like two hours, three hours of scans there in a day or something?
Honestly, it's probably like, it's probably like 10 people scan more, like 10 people just decided to put their Yankees cards on.
And that's really what it is.
10, 20 people decided while they were watching the other teams put their Yankees on.
I'm sorry, the Dodgers on.
So the Dodgers.
It's pretty cool that the Linux championship and the Dodgers.
The Dodgers won the World Series, and this is just, I'm just telling me,
like we already know that Lodex has the world's greatest scanning app.
They're so predictive.
They even have had the Super Bowl lock.
I mean, excuse me, the World Series locked in as the champion, right?
That's just how predictive the software is.
Yeah, I mean, that's how smart it is.
We take our, the biggest, the country.
AI.
I always actually you know what I think it's B-L-I that's Brian Luddin intelligence
it's baked in to everything at Luttex
the less I the less I use that
it's not worked out that way it makes sense like it shows you
that, you know, again, LuddX is, you know, not just predicting trends,
but they're showing their trends in real time because it makes sense, right?
L.A. is a big market, but L.A. doesn't win the scan challenge if they're advancing.
It goes to show you that the app is keeping up with real-time behaviors of what traders
and collectors are doing based on what's happening in the market.
It is. It's awesome data. Like, I'm a numbers guy. I'm a data guy.
and it's really cool to dive into the data and to see, you know, to see stuff like what you're talking about.
It's just really interesting on human behavior.
And when you have enough of it, enough of the data, like critical mass, you can really see a lot of great things.
Like, we can see the tops basketball product come out.
That's, like, they scan there, a lot of those.
But then when Chrome comes out, let's see what happens there.
You know, it's like, we'll be able to tell people what are the popular people.
what are the popular products, what are people scanning, what's the best value?
So we're going to do a lot of cool analytics coming up in the next, you know, in 26.
You got a couple of headlines before you let you go, Brian.
The collectibles market is continuing to grow.
So as collectibles trading market sales are reported up 101% year over year.
sports cards are up approximately 48% so far this year.
This is from research by Sarkana, research.
That's amazing.
And I mean, that's big, I mean, a double 101.
I'm saying that right.
I'm not the math guy you are, but I think that's what that means, essentially.
Yeah, that's amazing.
The trading card.
Yeah, it's Pokemon and everything else.
and then sports card specifically up 48%.
I don't know about you, Brian,
but I think the industry would take that run.
Like, oh, yeah, we're up for it.
You go to the boardroom.
We're up 48%.
You're getting a promotion, buddy.
No, that's insane.
Those numbers are just baffling.
But, you know, this industry keeps getting bigger and bigger.
It just does.
And we're right, the show's right in the epicenter.
Luddox is in the epicenter.
Like, it's fun.
It's fun to watch.
I'd be interested to see, maybe we could pull this for next week because, you know, a lot of the last of Panini's stuff, Mosaic has released Absolute.
I've seen some of the, so a lot of the new, you know, this year at being the last year of NFL for Panini.
I bet you the scans are probably trending up because those new sets are coming out.
I've been seeing like the hero cards,
kabooms and different things,
downtowns,
getting posted with more frequency
now that all the breaks
and different things are happening with these.
The final releases of Paninioms.
I'm sad to see the Kaboom go with a licensed player.
Yeah.
I don't know what they'll replace it with,
but they'll figure something out over at tops.
But, I mean,
someone's going to,
every time I was in Peninium,
I got to visit my friends at Panini
a couple days ago.
And every year this time,
because every four years
when the World Cup comes around,
there's always rumors about someone buying
Panini.
And again, this year,
this year, same thing.
It's top spying them.
Faniac said they're not.
There's private equity looking at them.
I mean, they hold that license to FIFA,
which is a valuable license.
You know, and that's what,
that's their value. So, I mean, if it was me,
I mean, I would sell it.
you know, anticipatory, you know, revenue from that.
Because after that, I don't know, I don't know what they got.
Yeah, I don't either.
But I had DJ ski on the show yesterday.
He's got a company called The Realist, and he's done some amazing things.
Do you know DJ ski?
Have you heard of him?
Yeah, yeah, I know him.
He's a great guy.
Super nice.
He did the 1970s, like some of the artistic stuff for Tops, like 70.
Project 70,
excuse me, Project 70 card for baseball.
And it does a few other collabs,
a different stuff,
he was awesome.
But we were talking about the opportunity,
like you and I said,
was just some more of the,
you know,
blending some of the more artistic things.
The tops could,
needs to lean into some of that
to not just have the same old,
same old, you know,
the player leaning,
you know,
against the bleachers or whatever,
you know,
like,
or making the action play,
but bringing more of that artwork into it,
you know, both for collectability and just interest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's true.
Yeah, it's anything that we could add verticals in this industry are going to help us.
So, yeah, being some of these artists are just doing some great things, some really cool things.
Cool, man.
I know you got to hit the course and we got the date in.
We got it in.
This is, hey, this is the CEO in action here.
This is how it goes down.
He's nothing.
Nothing gets in the way of getting it all done.
No.
It's part of the job.
You just got to keep grinding, keep grinding.
Let's talk about finally before I go.
Let's talk about the giveaway for the Zion case.
Yes.
You go ahead.
You can explain it better than I can.
Yep.
We'll do.
As a final call, this is your final call for total scans since the World Series,
the whole playoffs began.
We've got a total.
We, it has been, and we're going to give everybody one more week.
And so if you're listening, go into the comments on wherever you're at, YouTube, Instagram, Spotify allows comments within the platform.
Wherever you're listening or watching, we'll be tracking those comments.
You can send DMs to the accounts.
You can send a DM to the Luddix account.
You can send the DM to me, Ryan Offord.
You can send a DM to collectibles.
any of the platforms that are easily accessible
from collectibles.
show the website, www.comlectables.
show, any of those platforms where we can get
your total guess of total scans.
And it's a big number.
I'm going to give that hint, Brian.
Is that a hint all right?
If it wasn't all right, I've already given it.
Yeah.
Give a better hint.
The number might have seven digits.
Yes.
We're leading to water here.
So we need the closest.
And we're not doing the, you can go over to whoever's the closest.
You can be a few over, a few under, whatever, the closest to the total number of scans.
You've been paying attention.
Brian just gave the best tip of all I said big.
It might be seven figures.
There you go.
So this is doable, folks.
This is doable.
Go in those comments, go in the DMs, any of those places.
and you get the best case in the business, Zion trading card case.
It's unbelievable.
My son has one like it.
It's got the gorgeous Ludex logo on it.
You'll be proud.
My son is.
He sleeps with it.
It may or may not be his pillows some nights.
But I think that because he doesn't want to his brothers.
They're still one of his cards.
But no, it's a badass case.
And brought to you by our good friends at Zion and, of course, Lut X.
Cool, man.
We'll go hit him good.
Lots of numbers today, lots of opportunities for people to get in on that case, but good luck on the course.
Thank you, my man.
Always a pleasure, and we'll be talking to you soon.
And I'll let you know if I'll let you know how I do next week.
Exactly.
Tune in for that.
Hopefully the back is still in order.
Tip of the cap, you know, go easy.
You won't that back hurting.
Next week, I'll be not a hotel room.
Exactly.
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