Crime in Sports - #100 - Fighter. Killer. Victim? - The Sternness of Amar Suloev

Episode Date: January 1, 2018

This week, we take a long look at a man who was born into a tough environment, and only got tougher. His MMA career was decent, but his criminal career of being an enforcer, strong armer, and... even a murderer for a politically connected gang of Russians made him much more of a legend. He has meager beginnings, a mediocre middle, and a tragic end. A Russian MMA fighter... What could go wrong?Also, don't miss the 2017 Scummie Awards!!!Fight the best around, murder your employer's business rivals, and rot away without medical care in a Russian penal colony with Amar Suloev!!Check us out, every Tuesday.We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGet all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comFor Tickets To Upcoming Live Shows...BOSTON: Feb 18Crime In Sports:https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1589056?_ga=2.84751449.1576137293.1510029131-53581790.1510029128&__utma=1.876925325.1510029128.1510029128.1510029128.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1510029128&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1510029128.1.1.utmcsr=yahoo|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=255437192Small Town Murderhttps://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1589061?_ga=2.53771112.1576137293.1510029131-53581790.1510029128&__utma=1.876925325.1510029128.1510029128.1510029128.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1510029128&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1510029128.1.1.utmcsr=yahoo|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=255437192DETROIT: Feb 16 Stand Up Show w/ Dan Cumminshttps://www.ticketweb.com/event/dan-cummins-james-pietragallo-the-magic-bag-tickets/7823825?pl=magicbagCheck out or site: truecrimecomedyteam.comAll web support by Web and Writer webandwriter.com or Facebook.com/webandwriterContact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 My name is James Petragallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you, folks, for joining us for episode 100. Yes. Yay, we made it. All the way to 100. That's a big deal for us.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah. I've got to say, 100, it's a lot. We've missed one week. Yeah. When we transferred to podcast one. Yeah, we couldn't. We had nowhere to upload, 100, it's a lot. We've missed one week when we transferred to podcast one. We had nowhere to upload, basically. No choice. Yeah, we were lost in a desert there for a second.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So that was it. But otherwise, we've been here, and 100, 100 episodes. Fucking crazy. Later on in the show, we have the Scummy Awards. Yeah. Ah, yes, the year two Scummies, which are an exciting, honestly, the scummies are better than an episode. The scummies should get their own episodes. That's why I wore this tuxedo minus pants.
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Starting point is 00:05:49 I hate this movie. New episodes coming in about two weeks on that sometime in January. We'll keep you updated. But never mind all that. Yes. Because we have an episode worthy of episode 100 here. Yeah. I thought whether to do maybe someone who was an asshole.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah. But because like we play asshole or idiot a lot in this show. We're like, is this guy more of an asshole? Right. Is he a dick like that we hate or is he just more of an idiot who just can't help because he's a moron? Right. And we have had our fair share and we've had guys that are a little of both, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:19 estuary in the middle there where the two shall meet. Yeah. But sometimes worlds collide. Yeah. And I thought, should we do someone who's an asshole, but like maybe turned it all around like a Willie Mays Aiken story? You know what I mean? It's been so long.
Starting point is 00:06:34 At the end, you're like, well, that's great. Good for him. And we have a couple of those. I have a few of those stories locked and loaded for the right time. And I'm like, maybe an uplifting one. And I'm like, or maybe someone who could just never get out from the under the black cloud of disaster that follows them. And I'm like, which one do we do? You know, what is more our episode?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Who's what's more us? So stay tuned and see which one it is at the end. You'll find out which one this is. Let's talk about our superstar of the week here. Our our our what do we call him? Can't call him a gentleman because someone said don't call him gentleman. Dick weasel? Even sarcastically.
Starting point is 00:07:11 No sarcasm, guys. Yeah, let's see who our dickhead of the week is or our scumbag of the week, as we like to say, because that's kind of what we do. The scummy awards. That's the whole deal. Let's talk about Amar Suliev is his name. And his name is pronounced 46 different ways. Yeah. I've watched like a ton of his fights.
Starting point is 00:07:30 He's an MMA fighter. So you know it's going to be fun. We're back into the brain damage sports here. I've heard his name in 20 fights I've watched. I've heard his name pronounced 18 different ways. Suliev seems to be or Suloev or Suliev. But I'm going to go with Suliev, and I'm going to call him Amar the whole time, because it's so much fucking easier.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Amar? A-M-A-R? A-M-A-R. His last name is S-U-L-O-E-V. Suliev. Okay. So it's difficult. It's a rough one.
Starting point is 00:07:59 He's an Armenian, an ethnic Armenian Russian guy. Great. Here. And as we know- Russians. Oh, shit. an ethnic armenian russian guy great here uh and uh as we know oh shit from our russians in the past they don't do anything kind of halfway no or anything like that this isn't going to be like three duis no and you know he pushed around his girlfriend one time and then he had like a scuffle in a nightclub that's not this episode you know that's not it's going to be something different
Starting point is 00:08:21 yeah and out there and crazy and i believe this is something we haven't had before this episode. Really? This crime. I believe he's the first. Okay. So a first in episode 100. It's beautiful. Amar, born way back on January 7th, 1976.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Great. All the way back in the 70s. Yep. Here he is, an ethnic Armenian. Yep. Discos playing. And here comes little Amar. Thank God for him being Armenian and having a hairy chest.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That's right. Because he's born into this great time. Yes. And he doesn't even get to embrace it yet. That sucks because this guy with an open collared shirt. Yeah. Three buttons open. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And a gold chain resting amongst his chest hair. The pussy avalanche. In the 70s. Oh. Shit. Forget about it. Just dress like Steve Martin and Dan and dan akroyd yeah too wild and crazy guys stress like that butterfly with good chest hair yes lush really kicking uh he was
Starting point is 00:09:15 born his family is uh yezidis as they call it yezidis that's the pronunciation that i have most uh heard the most yezidis I actually looked this one up. Normally, I'm like, fuck pronunciations, but this word is Y-A-Z-I-D-I. Yeah, Yazidis. Yazidis, though, with a multiple Yazidi. So these guys are the group of people called Yazidis, and they are picked on in the Middle East, correct? Well, they are Arabic-speaking and Kurdish by nature, I guess, here. But they come from the—and this is what it says—they're indigenous to a northern Mesopotamia region, that area here.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It's interesting. to northern mesopotamia region that area here it's an interesting the yazidis who marry non-yazidis are automatically considered to be the religion of their spouse yeah and are not permitted to call themselves yazidis anymore really so this is just like some royal family shit here like you're you're out if you want to marry that fucking hooker no it's not gonna happen christian girl fuck out of here we're not yeah we're not having it here uh and it says here in a description on an online site about them, quote, according to reports by the NGO Human Rights Watch and the United Nations, the Yazidis are undergoing a process of curtification. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Which is slightly different than Californication. It's very almost the same, but slightly different. And way different from gentrification. A little different here. Yeah, it's totally different. Curtification. Curtification. Can't you just hear the Red Hot Chili Peppers singing about that? It sounds vicious,
Starting point is 00:10:52 though. It does. Not terrific. And he's born in Tashir, which was in the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic. So it's Soviet bloc, basically. It's an Armenian part of Soviet bloc is where he's from. Tashir
Starting point is 00:11:07 is a town in the Lory province at the north of Armenia near the border of Georgia. So we're talking some hardcore Russian shit here. These are some stout people. These are people who, you know, I can just, they're stout.
Starting point is 00:11:23 They're like, oh, what do we have, three potatoes? Right. And there's 12 of us. We'll be all right. And we have four days and it's negative 18 degrees outside. Okay. We'll be fine. We'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's good. They're good. They're fucking fine with the whole thing here. This is the area that Al-Qaeda wanted to take from Russia, correct? Georgia. Well, no, no. The Russians wanted to want to – the Russians have – there's a big standoff and was a big standoff in Georgia because after the Soviet Union broke up, Georgia is its own country.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And the Soviets have started to try to take shit back that used to be theirs. They're pulling some German shit here with certain countries. And that was a big dispute point. So Russia broke because of bin Laden, correct? pulling some german shit yeah and uh with certain countries and uh that was a big dispute point so but so russia broke because of bin laden correct like they they russia broke what they were so they they broke like they were fucking flat-ass broke because they were oh because because of everything right but that's why that's why they're talking about afghanistan war yeah the russian afghanistan yes once again everyone I speak fluent German.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Russia broke because of bin Laden, right? We're talking about the Afghanistan War with the Russians in the 80s, correct? Yes. 70s and 80s. That's what made them so fucking... They broke Russia. I love how we laughed at them for 10 years. Like, who are these fucking idiots bogged down in Afghanistan? Who the fuck would go to Afghanistan for a fucking decade?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Idiots. All right, you're 15 over here. We're like, no, no, no. We can do it, though. Never mind the Russians. We'll figure it out. If you're over there, hey, fucking be careful and thank you. But not your fault that for some reason we're still anywhere, just anywhere at all.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Dicking around at all. So Armenia became Soviet in 1920. Armenia became Soviet in 1920. They took right over with – they were right involved in the whole communist sweep there. Armenia is basically just hairy Russians. Is that true? Pretty much, yeah. Mixed in with – because Armenia is south of that. So you'd look at people and go, are they kind of Arabish or something?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Arabish. Arabish. Well, it's like you look at Italy. It's the same thing. Southern Italy is darker people. Northern Italy is lighter people. It's just the way it is. So Armenia is hairy Russians.
Starting point is 00:13:31 They're hairy Russians. That's how we're going to call them here. And for a long time- The Kardashians are hairy Russians. Fucking Kardashians. Filthy communists. Yeah. Stop giving them money.
Starting point is 00:13:39 They're filthy communists. That's how I'll get people to stop giving them money. They're filthy communists. I don't care how nice their lip liners are. Stop buying them. The problem is he dedicated everything. There is nothing on that channel anymore because of those fucking women. It's true.
Starting point is 00:13:53 It's terrible. Joel McHale told me last night that they're the reason that the soup is not on anymore. That's true. Because they don't need that anymore. Yeah, they don't need to hire a guy to stand there. Because nobody gives a fuck about that guy. And they have writers they have to hire and stuff like that. Why not just have the Kardashians?
Starting point is 00:14:07 And why pay writers and producers and all these people when you've got an ass that takes up camera time? Speaking of channels that have become useless, during this research for this article or for this show, for some reason I pulled up an article from Variety, the entertainment magazine, from 1992. Yeah. And it was because there was some sort of fighting connection in one of the shows. And somehow, this is how deep I get on the search. Somehow it wound up in Variety.
Starting point is 00:14:37 When you're in page 21 of a Google search, you find things that are not exactly as relevant as you'd like them to be. So I found this old Variety from 92 talking about the Cable Ace Awards. Oh, Christ. And showing the list of Cable Ace Award nominees and they're saying how HBO is going to sweep and they're like, this new Larry Sanders show is really good and shit like that. It's pretty interesting. But you look at it, every category has like three out of the five shows are MTV shows
Starting point is 00:15:02 that are- Oh, Christ. So remember when MTV had shows? Yeah, when it mattered. And stuff like that, they actually like you could decipher one show from the next. It wasn't just this continuous stream or something. It's just a loop of 16-year-old girls that are pregnant now. This was like they were all like shows that had substance to them too.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You know what I mean? It was like the weirdest thing. I was like, wow, remember when MTV was a channel? Remember Kurt L remember kurt loder so weird yeah it was like two in the morning i'm like this isn't fascinating i'm looking up old mtv shows i'm like i don't have time for this then they put paulie shore on the air and that shit took a decline oh god paulie shore was the beginning of the end for mtv that's around the time he was on there 10 dan cortez and paulie shore and all that fucking uh fucking guy that was all muscular? Eric from The Grind.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Eric Neese. Well, because he was on the first Real World. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they had him take his shirt off. And they just, they're like, you're a VJ now. Yeah, take your shirt off and dance around. Take your shirt off and tell us about Marky Mark. Talk to downtown Julie Brown for a minute.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, that's fine. We like that. You flex your muscles and she'll talk like an English girl. Yeah, we've actually had downtown Julie Brown references on this show before way back in the day. Didn't one of our athletes
Starting point is 00:16:11 go out with her or some shit? I think she commented on him. Okay, there was some connection to this. There was some reason that she was involved. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Hey, look at that. We both know. Time to move on. So Amar here, he grows up to be 5'9", 185. Okay. And he's stiff. He's muscular.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Muscular. He's solid as a rock. He's as solid as a Russian handshake. All right. He's hardcore. Yes. He's tough. He's solid.
Starting point is 00:16:37 He becomes a wrestler and has a lot of success in national wrestling tournaments. All right. And combat Sambo tournaments. Whatever that is. Which I national wrestling tournaments and combat Sambo tournaments. Whatever that is. I don't know what combat Sambo is. I don't know. That is a racial slur. And they have, I guess that's a combat racial slurs.
Starting point is 00:16:54 They get people together. You're like, oh, did you hear what he said? I never heard that one before. He called him a Sambo. That's why he got punched. That's why I had to learn how to fight. I knew all these racial slurs. People kept punching me.
Starting point is 00:17:09 So why are we giving him a southern accent? He is from Russia. He does not have a southern accent. He speaks very little English. He talk maybe, you know, like very heavy. How you say? A lot of that shit. A lot of how you say.
Starting point is 00:17:23 How you say? A lot of that shit. How you say a lot of that shit going on. Not a lot of southern dialect. So he's a combat Sambo. He's a combat Sambo wrestling bastard all over Russia. He's having a great time. He's twisting up Russians left and right. He trains at the Red Devil Fight Club early and also later. He trains at the Red Devil Fight Club early and also later.
Starting point is 00:17:50 This club, the main guy there is Fedor Emelianenko, who we've talked about numerous times. We've seen him get his ass kicked. Wow. We've seen him deliver ass kickings. No one's involved with more sports criminals on the periphery than Fedor Emelianenko. Other than Bob Arum and a couple of Pete Rozelle 80s NFL commissioners and things like that. Usually promoters or somehow getting paid off somebody else's talent. This fucking guy just runs into dickbags all the time. And he's always fighting with them for the most part.
Starting point is 00:18:14 He always fucking hates them. He's right. Fedor, we feel your fucking pain. You've had to deal with a gaggle of assholes over the years. Jesus. It's like he's running down a hallway and people are just dropping their asshole through the ceiling tiles and smashing it into his face. And he's getting super angry.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I ran into another asshole. And he's getting super angry and threatening to fight them in hotel lobbies, I believe. That's the only way you could run into more assholes than this guy. He was the one with Crazy Horse. He tried to fight him in the lobby. Tried to fight him in the fucking lobby. Tried to stalk him into the elevator as Crazy Horse. He tried to fight him in the lobby. Tried to fight him in the fucking lobby. Tried to stalk him into the elevator as Crazy Horse talked shit to him. And then they did fight backstage with varied results, depending on who you talk to.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Depending on who you ask. Very entertaining account of it from Crazy Horse. If you catch the YouTube video of him explaining, not only explaining, acting out exactly what happened. But Fedor definitely went down, right? I think, yeah. He was sleeping. Yes. He was knocked out.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah. Bennett could punch. And then the other time, somebody got Bennett and then choked him out. It was a fucking mess. Then he ran down the freight elevator. Many people were choked out. Lots of unconsciousness. Many concussions were had.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And that's without paychecks. Many concussions were had. And that's without paychecks. Brain damage was, yeah. Paycheck free. Free brain damage, everyone. Come on over. Outside the ring. Handing out free brain damage, people.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Oh, Jesus. So he goes around fighting, like we said, all these amateur tournaments, doing different disciplines. Finally, on April 9th, 1999 1999 he makes his uh his mma debut right professional mma debut in the m1 mfc world championship 1999 right these m1 is like the biggest fighting company they're russian ufc okay that which is really sad if you watch their events but you're like jesus this is this is russian ufc It's pretty pathetic. We've heard plenty of this from Vyacheslav Dotsik, which was one of our crazier episodes of our entire 100 episodes. One of the nuttiest people on earth ever. He is insane.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And we're going to talk. He will come up this episode later on. We're in Russia fighting with MMA guys. You're going to run into the stars. We're going to run into Vyacheslav. Sorry, guys. Weird how many people are going to come up tonight. It's very strange.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And then, of course, in the scummies. But this is in St. Petersburg, Russia. This is a worse St. Petersburg than Florida, if that's possible. But it's got beautiful architecture. You know what? It beats Florida. Florida, it's warmer, but I'd rather have the architecture and not be in Florida. Russians, better than Floridians.
Starting point is 00:20:46 There you go. Barely. Florida, almost as good as Russia. That should be their new tourist slogan. Oh, with Disneyland. Disney World also. Epcot Center. We're Russia with sun and fucking Epcot Center.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Sunny Russia. Come to sunny Russia. I don't think that'll be on the license plate. Sunny Russia. That's fantastic. That's the one right there. He fights Andre the White Shark Seminar. Chit-chat.
Starting point is 00:21:14 The White Shark. Sounds like he's probably a white supremacist, I would think, maybe. Or he ran into a black guy and was like, I'm like that guy. Or that's the translation in some ways. The White Shark means something. He probably wanted to have Great White as his nickname. Yes, and that's what it came out to. And they just went to White Shark.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It's a White Shark. It's a Great White, and that's what it is. This guy's a 34-9 career fighter. Wow. So he's no joke to fight in your first fight. And he is 1-0 coming in. So this is only his second fight. First fight for Amar.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So, you know, this is interesting. So this fight, his second fight. First fight for Amar. So, you know, this is interesting. So this fight, very interesting here. Now, the funny thing I found about this, and I found this in multiple locations, it says that Amar loses this fight. And he does lose the fight, but it's when and how. He loses the fight in round one at six minutes and eight seconds. How the fuck are these round? They're supposed to go two minutes. Three minutes or five minutes in UFC. Six minutes in it seconds. How the fuck long are these rounds? They're supposed to go two minutes. Three minutes or five minutes in UFC.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Six minutes in it. Longer than six minutes defeats the purpose of the round system at that point. There's no point. At that point, you're tiring someone. Just fight until the death at that point. Who cares? It's not even skill anymore. It's just endurance.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Who can bounce around longer? Who ate most recently? Yeah, it's fucking terrible here. It's just endurance. Who can bounce around longer? Who ate most recently? Yeah, it's fucking terrible here. So I don't know how that worked out, but multiple places said it was a six-minute, eight-second, one-round victory here. He loses by submission. He's 0-1 to start out his career, which we don't see that often, normally, unless it's like Joe Sun getting punched in the dick 50 times, which he fucking deserved getting punched in the dick. He was a terrible MMI fighter. He was awful and a worse person somehow.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Somehow, he was a guy who was awful and literally got beat by being repeatedly just pummeled in the groin. And he's worse. His talent was eating food and pretending to crack his neck and then throwing a shoe. And then the rest was cinematography. And then being arrested for horrible, horrible sexual assault. Yeah, pretty much the worst rape we've ever covered. Maybe Randall Woodfield. The only way it could have been a worse rape is if he actually fired the gun.
Starting point is 00:23:13 You know what I mean? That would have been worse. That's the only way. Go back and listen to it. You'll know in time. You'll know, yeah. And also listen to Randall Woodfield because that's batshit too. That's pretty awful.
Starting point is 00:23:19 So March 5, 2000, he fights at the Pancration Cup of North Caucasus. Fucking Pancration. So, yeah, you know we're going to be back with the Pancration in Europe here. By the way, when we fucking talk about Pancration and it sounds like a disease, we will get, I'll get them all day long today. We get it. We know. It's the Greek thing that means we understand. It sounds like a disease.
Starting point is 00:23:44 It sounds terrible. It sounds like I disease. Right. It sounds terrible. It sounds like I'm having awful pancreas today. Right. Right. It sounds fucking terrible that you need medication for possibly surgery. There's a reason that the Greek dynasty was over at some point because they were wrong. Because shit sounded like diseases to your organs. They had to start over.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Everything they did sounded like organ disease. So they had to start – tear it down, start over. Right. So this is in Rostov, Russia. This is the San Francisco of the Asian mainland here. Rostov I know nothing
Starting point is 00:24:13 about except for there was a butcher there. That's the only thing I know about it. You know it. That's Emilian... I almost called him... That was Emilian Fedor. I almost called him Fedor. Fedor was the butcher of Rostov. No, he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:24:28 The Red Ripper was the other fuck. Fucking Dan's guy. Dan Cummins covered him. Well, he does him all the time, too. That's his how he comes to arrive here all the time. He's the most famous serial killer ever. Chikatilo. Chikat'm blanking Chikatilo Chikatilo
Starting point is 00:24:46 Chikatilo Take cock out Take a limp cock Sorry Dan I have to give you a shout out That's really fucking funny I haven't listened since that episode I've got to get back into it I feel terrible that I've gone so long
Starting point is 00:24:59 So he fights here Sergei Yankovsky I'm going to fuck up a million. These are all horrible Russian, Brazilian. You're preaching to the choir, babe. I love this. You don't have a, all of your names aren't Armenian and Russian and Brazilian. Yeah, mine are Rachel Smith.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah, it's like you go Pamela. No, this is Yankovsky. This is way fucking different. I'm trying. I'm trying. Sergei, even Sergei. Sergei is a tough name. Even that doesn't look like it. I just trying. I'm trying. Sergei. Even Sergei. Sergei is a tough name. Even that doesn't look like it.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I just know it's that because it's that. So anyway. This should not be E-I at the end of the name. No. Never. No. So he's 0-1 coming in, old Sergei. He has a 1-3 career.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Okay. So he wins his last fight and then quits. Oh. Yay, I'm done. I did it. Woo-hoo. He wins his last fight. He won his last fight and then quit. He literally had three losses and then won a fight and then quits oh yay i'm done i did it day whoo it was his last fight he won his last
Starting point is 00:25:45 fight and then quit he literally had three losses and then won a fight and then quit all right well i'm never gonna do that again i'm gonna do this until i win that's all i wanted to do yay done uh this is a two round fight and goes the distance wow somehow so this is a full two i don't know is that a 45 minute fight based on how these rounds are working over there? Two rounds, two days long each. They finally dragged each of them to the center of the ring and fucking lifted up Amar's arm, his limp arm, they lifted up like he was a wrestler
Starting point is 00:26:14 caught in a sleeper hole. And that's it, they said, he wins by decision. He threw one more punch than the other one that landed. Yep, so he won by decision, Amar does, so he's one and one now. Lucky for him him he wasn't the one win that this guy had on the other end jesus that's terrible so mar's not starting out great here uh april 9th 2000 uh this is the m1 again uh mfc european championship 2000 yeah st
Starting point is 00:26:38 petersburg russia once again the most beautiful spot uh south of georgia so it's funny if there's georgia and st petersburg they really wanted to be russia down there yeah shit spat all spanish the most beautiful spot south of Georgia. So it's funny that there's Georgia and St. Petersburg. They really wanted to be Russia down there. All Spanish stuff with Russian. It's the strangest thing. So April 9, 2000, this says, he fights Daryl Golar, who's a 5-6 career fighter. This fight goes the distance again. Two rounds, two full rounds.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Amar loses the decision. Oh, no. To a 5-6 fighter. Ouch. So poor Amar loses the decision. Oh, no. To a five and six fighter. Ouch. So poor Amar. Now he's one and two. This isn't where he wanted to be. It's probably better than the potato fields of Armenia. I have no idea if there's any potatoes in Armenia
Starting point is 00:27:16 whatsoever. Isn't that how you make vodka? Yeah. I don't know if Armenians just drink vodka if they actually make it. Or if they just dress gaudily and put big fountains up everywhere. That might be it also. Do you know any Armenians? I don't.
Starting point is 00:27:28 The only ones I know are the fucking Kardashians, and that bums me out. Have you ever worked in the restaurant industry? I did. And you didn't know Armenians? I thought they were hairy Mexicans. Yeah, no, no. You probably thought they were Italians, actually. Those are some Italian guys that own a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Italians are hairy Mexicans, too. That's the other thing. There you go. These were the Armenians. No, I'm sure Italian guys. Yeah. Italians are hairy Mexicans, too. That's the other thing. There you go. These were the Armenians. No, I'm sure I know a few. Yeah, I've known. They're the craziest motherfuckers on Earth, Armenians. You will never find.
Starting point is 00:27:54 The only one crazier, and that's Albanians. Sorry, Armenians, but the Albanians. I saw a friend of mine, his father, who was from Albania, came out. His son was having a party after the prom and there was a hundred kids there and there was ten state troopers and cop cars this guy burst out of his fucking door like they were
Starting point is 00:28:14 like they woke him up and it's their fault and he's mad why are you here you motherfucker get off property throwing shit at him I'm like this is the most awesome man ever these guys had shotguns he's throwing shit at them he's like I have birthright son of a bitch on property he's going crazy I'm like this this is the most awesome man ever. These guys had shotguns. He's throwing shit at them. He's like, I have birthright. You son of a bitch on property. He's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I'm like, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life. Wasn't the guy with the face piercing in WWF, wasn't he Albanian? Face piercing. The guy that had the fucking hoop in his cheek? Captain Lou Albano? Oh, that's why I thought. Yeah, he was on. We're moving forward.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I don't think he is, but Albano's a gimme. Albano was the thing that did it to him. Albano was in the Sicilians tag team. I couldn't think he is, but Albano's a guinea pig. Albano was the thing that did it to him. Albano was in the Sicilians tag team. I couldn't think of his name, but I hear Albania, and I saw his face. Maybe that's why I thought that. You seek Albano. Albania, Albano, Armenia. It's all the same thing.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Same shit. So Captain Louis Albano's an Armenian. Oh, fuck, I'm stupid. He's half Armenian Armenian half Albanian and so April 28th 2000 Omar he's fighting in the Pankration
Starting point is 00:29:13 World Championship 2000 day one there's going to be more days here this is in Moscow Russia he fights Eric Oganov who's a 24 and 13 career fighter. He's a journeyman. This is his fourth fight, though.
Starting point is 00:29:29 He's a newer guy. He's two and one coming in. So Amar's one and two. He's two and one coming in. So it's an even matchup. Amar, not very even, though, because Amar snatches this son of a bitch up in 21 seconds. Wow. And submits him with an armbar.
Starting point is 00:29:43 In the first round. In the first round. Wow. So he gets on the up in 21 seconds. Wow. Submits him with an arm bar. In the first round. In the first round. Wow. So he gets on the horse here pretty quick here. This is a good job for him coming out. I mean, like I said, the other guy's probably favored, for Christ's sake. Probably. And this guy comes in 21 seconds and it's over.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Anything can happen in fights like this. You latch onto somebody's arm. Who knows? May 27, 2000. This is a crazy fucking day here this this shouldn't happen okay put it this way this should not happen and uh i don't know how it happens and he does this several times and it might account for future behavior okay you'll know what i mean in a minute here may 27 2000 is the wvc 11 which is the world Veil Tudor Championship 11.
Starting point is 00:30:27 This is a bare-knuckle tournament. What the fuck? This is bare-knuckle MMA, and it's a tournament. Not a tournament different day. It's a tournament on the same day. What? He's fighting over and over on the same day bare-knuckle? You're going to have several bare-knuckle fights on the same day.
Starting point is 00:30:41 If you keep winning. Which is fucking insane. That's nuts. You can't take blows to the head, sit down for an hour, come out, take more blows to the head. So the guy that wins is the guy that fought the longest all day, obviously. Fought the longest, and he drools when he smiles from now on. Forever. That's how this works. Like, this is insanity.
Starting point is 00:30:56 This is in Recife, Brazil. I don't even know. I'm fine. When you've got mixed languages like this, different languages, like the rules are C's, hard C, or is it a C? It's a C in this language, a C in this language. It's a fucking mess. Do I add the E to the end of it?
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's in Brazil, okay? It doesn't matter where it is. Spanish in Mexico is completely different from Spanish in Spain. It's fucking weird. Both of which are insanely different from Russian and Armenian and Yanis Kakov or whatever the fuck the guy's name was. I don't even know anymore. It's a goddamn mess.
Starting point is 00:31:27 What do I know? Yanis Gokov. Is that his name? That sounds Russian as fuck. It probably isn't even a word. It was Yankovsky. There's a guy out there. There's a Russian ski?
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah, the Russian poles are Polish. There's Russian shoes on the ski. Okay. Yeah, so there's a lot. All right. There's a lot with the ski. I suppose you got a point. There's some skis in there. Whatever. Yeah, so there's a lot. All right. There's a lot with the ski. I suppose you got a point. There's some skis in there.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Whatever. So, yeah, they were in the... I picture every Russian has E-I at the end or O-V. That's it. O-V, yeah. That's the thing. That's all of them. There's a lot of Russian skis.
Starting point is 00:31:57 First round of this fight, hopefully maybe not the last round for Old Amar. He fights Luis Alberto, who is a one-in-seven career fighter. Spoiler alert, this isn't the win. This is not the last round for old Amar. He fights Luis Alberto, who is a one in seven career fighter. Spoiler alert. This isn't the win. This is not the win here. Amar wins with a gets a knockout, a KO with a kick in 226 of round one. OK. Anytime you knock someone out with a kick, it's particularly awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:19 It's particularly brutal and particularly damaging. Probably the heel. Right. Yeah. There's bad things happen if you get knocked out. It's like a forward kick with the heel right in the fucking face. Yeah. And it's brutal.
Starting point is 00:32:30 It's the worst here. So this Luis Alberto goes down in 226 of round one, bringing Amar to three and two, and more importantly, moving him to round two of this highly prestigious tournament that I've never fucking heard of, and neither has anybody else. Highly prestigious. In round two, he fights Alberto Prima, who sounds like a retired singer who now owns an Italian restaurant and goes around and just goes to the tables. He wears a white suit and goes and shakes everyone's hand and asks them if their gnocchi's good today. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:01 You know what I mean? And there's a dish on the menu that's the prima vera. It's the prima vera. It's a dash, right. Fucking stupid shit. And he's got a real smooth voice. Your goddamn right he does. Hey, how you doing tonight?
Starting point is 00:33:13 And he was big in the 50s. Right. So, uh... And he gets a lot of blowjobs. Alberto, yeah, tons of blowjobs. So many blowjobs. I only hire waitresses who give the best blowjobs.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's part of the interview. Try the prima vera. Try the prima vera. Ooh, best blowjobs. It's part of the interview. Try the Primavera. Try the Primavera. Ooh, and my waitress. Ooh, the one you got. You got a good one. She gives the best blowjobs of them all. I'll send her over afterwards with a little dessert. Wink, wink. Alright there, cool cat. So, Alberto Prima, hopefully a
Starting point is 00:33:38 better singer and restaurateur than a fighter because he has an 0-2 career. So, shockery, this is one of the 0-2. This is aer, this is one of the 0-2. This is a submission. A submission from kicks. Several kicks. This isn't a TKO where the ref says stop kicking him.
Starting point is 00:33:56 This is where he says, make him stop kicking me. Make him stop. I give up already. Stop kicking me. You didn't get down and get in the hold. He couldn't stop being kicked. He tapped out getting kicked. Yeah. This is like when kids are wrestling, and this was the hold. He couldn't stop being kicked. He needed someone to step in. He tapped out getting kicked. This is like when kids are wrestling and this was the equivalent of someone saying,
Starting point is 00:34:09 I can't breathe. Get off. And you go, okay. That's it. And then mom comes in. What happened here? Get off of your brother. You fucking asshole. Jesus Christ. So he submits Alberto Prima a minute and 25 seconds into round one, bringing his record to four and two and bringing him to his third fight of the day.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Wow. Third fight of the day. Unbelievable. Jesus. I mean, even if you're winning fights, it's a lot of fighting for one goddamn day. Right. In a bare knuckle fashion. Right. Taylor Swift is soaring high, her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process. But along the way, Taylor has had to wage war, first by taking on a very powerful, very famous manager, Scooter Braun, and then by going up against the biggest live events company, Ticketmaster. Hi, I'm David Brown, the host of Wondery Show Business Wars. We go deep into some
Starting point is 00:35:11 of the biggest corporate rivalries of all time. And in our latest season, Taylor Swift will shake up not only the music business, but Hollywood and the NFL. Follow Business Wars wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's an all new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. And now back to the show May 27th same day fight number 3
Starting point is 00:36:36 against Andrei Seminov again who we've talked about it was his first fight that he lost to this time Amar gets his revenge winning by submission with a rear-naked
Starting point is 00:36:46 choke at 147 of round one. Three fights in one day and he's won them all. And he wins them all. He wins the tournament. Wow. Well, that's the three fights. That's it. So he's the champion of the tournament. He's the champion. Champion of this tournament. His performance, because it's a bare-knuckle crazy
Starting point is 00:37:02 tournament, his performance is actually featured in the 2003 MMA documentary Rites of Passage. Kind of one of the stories they featured is his day at this tournament fighting three bare-knuckle fights. So it's pretty interesting. Was his prize a CAT scan or an EKG? I think they threw that in. It was that and a sack of potatoes, I believe is what he wanted. A bag of potatoes because that's what your brain is now. And some Kylie
Starting point is 00:37:29 Jenner lip liner. There you go. They gave him that too. And he's like, why you give to me this? I don't know why you give. And they're like, because it's, you trust me. You got an Armenian wife at home? She'll get it. Don't worry. She's been wanting it for a while. Yeah. There are some genes from Kim. They'll
Starting point is 00:37:45 fit her fat ass. There you go. Perfect. So, yeah. So he's five and two now. The ass fit, but waist do not. Waist no fit. Trust me. My wife, you know. You know. She eat a lot of potato. She a little bigger woman, but I like.
Starting point is 00:38:04 She's sturdy. She can take a bunch. Otherwise, you know, I like bigger woman, but I like, you know. She's sturdy. She can take a bunch. Otherwise, you know, I like little rough, but I like on me. Otherwise, I can't feel. This one, she throw me around a little, you know. She give bear hug. I feel it. I feel.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And the hair on her, too. I feel this may be bear. This possibly bear. Make me feel good. So, November 11, 2000. What a mess. We just insulted every Russian. Sorry, Russians. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I don't think we have a lot of Russian listeners. All Russian hairy women, right. Yeah, they're not on our meetings, too. They're not really on our list. It's not our demo. It's not our demo. Russian people who speak little English is not our demo, luckily for us. Otherwise, people would be mad at us for this.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And several other things, too. I'm sure the Dotsik episode, we insulted the shit out of Russians because that guy was a terrible representation of all that you are. So, anyway, moving on to November 11, 2000. This is the M1 MFC World Championship 2000. It's another tournament. Yeah. Another tournament. So he waits a few months. He's like, I'd do again. Yeah.. It's another tournament. Yeah. Another tournament. So he waits a few months.
Starting point is 00:39:05 He's like, I'd do again. Yeah. I'd do another tournament. So they do again. This time here, it's in St. Petersburg. He fights Rick Rutlieb in the first round. Rick Rutlieb is the weird. I had to look at that name when I wrote it down like 10 times.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Rick Rutlieb is his name? He's a three and six career fighter. Yeah. This is his second to last fight. He's on his way out. And Amar goes three rounds. If you're in a tournament and you're planning on winning, you don't want the first fight to go into the third round. Amar wins with a choke submission at 31 seconds in round three.
Starting point is 00:39:41 But he had to fight for two rounds, which is exhausting. Even if he's not getting punched, it's still exhausting to wrestle and grapple and even to dance for that long. Yeah. If you're running around the ring, that's enough. It's still exhausting. So he's six and two now, Amar is. November 11th, 2000.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah. This is fight number two of the day. He fights. See, this is what I mean. You're not getting names like this. Vagam Bajukian. Okay. B-O-D-J-u-k-y-a-a-a see you around sir jesus christ i wouldn't even give it a shot dude b-u-d-j fuck that buju kyan buju kyan for sure baju kyan yep uh yes Yep. And that's your first name.
Starting point is 00:40:25 No, that's his last name. His first name is Vagam. V-A-G-A-M. Vagam. Vagam? Vagam. Jesus Christ. That sounds like a superhero with an enormous vagina that swallows up criminals.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's Vagam. Vagam, Becky. Get him. That's Vajum. Vajum, Becky. Get him. That's awful. Oh, Jesus. So he is 6-7 career. This is the second fight of his career. He's 1-0 coming in.
Starting point is 00:40:55 So the world is his oyster. He's got a Jesus fish on his left chest area there. This guy, Amar, does not care and Jesus does not help him. area there. This guy, Amar does not care and Jesus does not help him because Amar wins with a submission on a choke in round two at two minutes and 51 seconds.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So that's, he fought, that's a two round, he wins the tournament. It's a two round tournament. But that's a lot though. That's a quick turn. There's three dudes in the tournament? That's it. Yeah, quick, little quickie. But he still fought, you know, five rounds almost. So that's plenty. That's a a lot of rounds he's seven and two now uh december 1st 2000 the pancreation cup of russia won holy shit it's another tournament this one he just loves these
Starting point is 00:41:34 fucking king of the shit tournaments this guy uh this is uh in saint petersburg he fights alexander may may or of in the first round uh this guy is has a one-in-one career record total. Guess which one this is. The one-in-one. This is the last fight of his career. Really? So I should tell you that right there. It's his loss.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's his loss. Amar wins in a minute and 31 seconds from a TKO with strikes. He just goes in and pummels the shit out of this guy. So he's up to eight and two. Yeah. So he's okay here. Eight and two, not bad. December 1st, 2000. Same day.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Fight number two. He fights Valentin Sjolzini. Yep. Sjolzini. Sjolzini. Yes. He fights that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 He has a 6-5 career, and he's 1-0 coming in. Terrific. So he's fighting all these up-and-coming guys with hope in their eyes, and he knocks them out with TKOs. That's great. This is fight stopped due to an injury from Valentin. I wonder what he got injured. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:32 He got injured this one. Now, this one I could not find either. I want to see broken legs and shit in this. I don't know what this was. That's what I enjoy when I watch those. Much successive bleeding. My favorite fight is the one that the fucking guy that wrapped his leg around that other dude's calf.
Starting point is 00:42:47 That's the fucking best thing I've ever seen in my life. And he lost the fight just because he couldn't go on. Well, yeah, if you're injured. I mean, he got a floppy fucking leg. Yeah, that's not going to happen. He kicked the dude in the shin and his leg like wrapped around it. I forget his name. It's like, I forget.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You don't want to happen when you kick things, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what that was. And then he went back to stand on it. Yeah. Oh, that's the best when you see that. That's the part where you're like, uh-oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That's like the baseball player. The guy kicked himself in the back of the head with his leg completely snapped in half. And he was still running. And his leg came up and doinked him. It's like, oh, shit. That wasn't supposed to happen. That's so good. Round one, minute 31 seconds.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Amar is eight and two. So Amar beats Valentin here, like I said, at four minutes and 52 seconds from the injury. It's a TKO ref stop fight. He's up to nine and two. Now, this is better. This is better than one and two. He went from one and two to nine and two. Anderson Silva.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Much better. Ah, there you go. Thank you. So now, April 27, 2001. Do you know how exhilarating that is, by the way, to tell that story? And everybody that knows the fight saw it in their head. And they're screaming at their phone, Anderson Silva, Anderson Silva. And they want to tweet me and tell me.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yes, now they don't have to. Somebody already has by now. I guarantee it. My phone is chirped. And then I say, Anderson Silva., Tuesday you're getting a tweet. Right. And then I say Anderson Silva, and they go, fuck, what did I do? I can predict the future.
Starting point is 00:44:12 You're getting a tweet. We're actually, the account will get a tweet, and probably both of us tagged in it individually to tell us that we're idiots. And they'll be in the middle of the tweet, and then they'll be like, never mind, you just said it. Yeah, oh shit, sorry. So, but thank you for your caring anyway. April 27, 2001.
Starting point is 00:44:30 This is an M1 MFC, Russia versus the World 1. Does this event sound familiar to you, Jimmy? No. Russia versus the World 1. It might be familiar. It's in St. Petersburg, because we've talked about this event before, because on that card, Vyacheslav Dotsik gets a 30-second win with a rear naked choke that day. I love it.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So these two were hanging out in the back, I assume conversing. They both talk Russian. Yeah. Both speak Russian, so I assume these two sat in the back just talking, hanging out, doing their thing, you know. Hanging. Yeah. Just drinking vodka and remembering how shitty their childhood was.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Well, probably this guy looking at Dotsik going, is this guy out of his fucking mind? Like whispering to the dude next to him. What's with the swastika tattoo, bro? Looking out there. It's just like, ooh, they're making the drinky thing with their hand, which in Russian means, I don't even know, you have an IV in your arm. Like how drunk do you have to be in your arm like how drunk you have
Starting point is 00:45:25 to be for the russians to look at you kind of sideways going oh he's had a couple too fucking many he's got a fucking vodka still in his stomach in his time we're fine with that uh so uh this card he fights pedro otavio who has the worst nickname ever his nickname is the pedro what the pedro the pedro otavio he saw the fucking big lebowski too many times he's like the jesus exactly the dude this guy is 6 3 243 fuck's sake way fucking bigger than our guy that's a big dude but they're fighting and it's i saw this fight and he's a big goofy fuck with no shoes on he looks like an asshole yeah and uh it's an interesting fight only goes three minutes and 40 seconds in the first round and and Amar knocks him the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I mean, this guy is trying to strike and doing this, and Amar's trying to get in, and he's so much bigger. He's just kind of batting Amar back, and he just comes in, Amar, and lights him the fuck up with a right hand. Really? This guy goes down on his face. It's one of those where the second the fist hit him, he was out. Awesome. It wasn't like, I'm sort of out. He went down, and you see the ref
Starting point is 00:46:27 peeling his corpse off the floor, and his arm is limp, and his eyes aren't open. He knocks him out cold, which is insane. This is wild. It looked like Crazy Horse hitting Emilianenko, that sort of thing. It's just a giant dude getting knocked
Starting point is 00:46:44 out by this little guy who clearly knows what he's doing. So he's 10-2, and he's starting to get a reputation now as being a fucking dangerous guy. As you might imagine, that'll happen. So October 7, 2001, he's at the 2H2H3 Hotter Than Hot
Starting point is 00:47:00 tournament. For fuck's sake. Another tournament. These have the worst fucking names what is that what is hotter than hot that's fucking hot tell you what guys you know what tournaments of mma of the mma persuasion you're gonna have a new tournament your new company need a name for it don't do it you're sick fucking email us crime and sports at gmail.com we will give you a better name than whatever you're coming up with guaranteed wearanteed. We'll give you 10 options of names you can call it. They'll all be better than 2H2H3
Starting point is 00:47:28 Hotter Than Hot. Fuck, that's awful. This is in Rotterdam, Netherlands. They're branching out. Here he is. He fights Patrick DeWitt, who sounds Dutch. What? Patrick DeWitt fights a Dutchman. Sounds like a sweet man. By the way, he's only fought two linkers
Starting point is 00:47:43 so far. DeWitt's another non-linker. This is non-linker after non-linker. I don't know if the Russian-ness has something to do with it. But this guy, after some tracking down, has a 5-9 career. 5-9 career. But the exciting part is, in the last fight, the last thing that he was in, the Russia versus the world one, that card, he was the guy who lost to Dotsick in 30 seconds. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:48:06 From a rear naked choke. Fantastic. So this guy fights two of our guys in a row. Terrific. That's fucking amazing. I can't get enough of this. Patrick DeWitt, we salute you, you non-Lincoln son of a bitch. He should have a link just for that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Appeared on Two Crime and Sports. We don't even have a Wikipedia page, so obviously that wouldn't matter. But he lost to both. Nobody gives a fuck about us. But he lost to both of them right in a row, and he lost with an armbar by submission in a minute and 11. Ouch. So in a minute and 41
Starting point is 00:48:32 seconds, he lost two fights to two crazy Russians. A minute 41, he got choked out and then armbarred. Yeah, so Dutch people stop fighting Russians, please, because it won't go at all. It's not going to work. 11 and 2 for Amar on the record now. Now October, here's the same night. It's not going to work. 11-2 for Amar on the record now. Now October, here's the same night.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It's fight number two. He fights Paul Calhoun, who's a linker, an actual linker. He's got a 13-12 career record. And a sewer plumbing business on the side. Have Paul Calhoun for Calhoun Sewer. I'll snake your shit pipe and punch out your wife. Calhoun Sewer and Excavating Company. I'll snake your shit pipe and punch out your wife. Calhoun sewer and excavating company. I'll come true.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I'll dig it up. I'll take your shit out. Don't you fucking worry about it. What, your wife's getting mouthy? I need a background. Hey, clean the sewer. What are you doing? I'll give her the back of my fucking hand free of charge.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Free of charge. I'll throw it in. An excavation and a sewer cleaning. I'll take the waste away and give the wife the back of my hand. All for one low price of $849.95. What do you say? That's his pitch. Calhoun's sewer pipe.
Starting point is 00:49:34 And then he's got a little jingle. Calhoun's, Calhoun's. Afterwards. He's the only one that'll smack your wife. Like, that's the... See the shit pipe and smack the wife. People are here like, he's got to update that. He's had the same ad since 1973.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah, but it's so catchy. It's catchy, but yeah, it's kind of out of date. Maybe we should update it, possibly. I don't know. He's just trying to make the ends meet, babe. Paul Calhoun takes a break. All the sewers are going to fill up for a day at least. He's got a fight.
Starting point is 00:50:07 This goes the distance of two rounds. Amar ends up winning on points here. But this is a tournament, and he's got one more fight tonight. So now he's fought the first one fine, a minute and 11. But this is now he's fought a full fight. So this is rough here. And against a linker, against a guy who's not terrible. So he's probably tired.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And then he fights the next fight, third fight of the night, against Moise Swamp Rimbone. Rimbone. Swamp is his nickname. Moise Swamp Rimbone. I think he's a Brazilian guy if I'm not mistaken. No, no, no. I'm sorry. He's from the United Arab Emirates.
Starting point is 00:50:40 This one is. I had to remember that. His nickname is Swamp. Not the Swamp. Not Swamp thing. Not the Swamp Monster. Right. The Swamp Drainer I do remember that. His nickname is Swamp. Not the Swamp. Nope. Not Swamp Thing. Not the Swamp Monster. Right. The Swamp.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Just Swamp. Drainer. Nothing of that. The Swamp. Because somebody confused his first name with sounding like moist. Yeah. And they gave him Swamp. Either that or it's another bad translation.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Or maybe it's just his crack sweats like crazy when he fights. Oh, he's got a bad Swamp ass. So he's got just Swamp ass. And you can see it. It's visible. He doesn't know why they call him Swamp. They say you're Swamp. He's like, I like name. That's a like name that's a good name yes yes and they're like yeah he's good he's gonna fucking call himself that seen the stripe that forms on his ass he bought a fucking robe and it says it on the back how great is this he's
Starting point is 00:51:16 going with it holy shit it says swamp across his shoulders and then you see that fucking stripe in the middle of this. Oh! Swampy! So, the Swamp Man has a 25-11 career record. He's only 2-3 coming into this fight, though, the beginning of his career. Amar knocks him out. It's a TKO after a doctor stops the fight at 4 minutes and 48
Starting point is 00:51:42 seconds of round 1. 12 seconds left in the round, and Doctor stops the fight. So I don't know if there was a—it's usually a cut maybe, something like that. So Amar wins the whole tournament here. He fights three fights in one night and wins, which is crazy. 13-2. And that's in like four days he's fought total in his entire career. And a Russian doctor said somebody can't go on.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah, really. We know it was bad. Yeah, he had like half a limb. He said, one leg totally off, okay. But the other leg half off. I can't go on. We know it was bad. Yeah, he had like half a limb. He said, one leg totally off, okay. But the other leg half off, I can't let go. I must stop now. So they stopped that. At this point, he's 13
Starting point is 00:52:14 and 2, and he's got 12 straight wins. So he's getting some heat in the industry. Just three fights in one night. This is a guy that would catch the attention of people like i don't know dana white fuck yeah somebody like that and he actually does catch the attention of a guy exactly like dana white as a matter of fact there was dana white really with ufc and the ufc signs
Starting point is 00:52:35 him in late uh in 2001 so he's actually signed with ufc which is a big deal you know that's obviously a big deal it's It's the top outfit. It's better than M1. Dotsick isn't on any of these fucking cards, so that's a good thing. You're fighting with goddamn professionals. He fights. His first fight for UFC is in Connecticut at the Mohegan Sun Arena. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:52:57 So now he's fighting at a goddamn casino. This is some—welcome to America. Here it is. There's fat people on the slot machines with fucking oxygen tanks while they're smoking. Absolutely. Enjoy. Enjoy your wares. Isn't it amazing?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Might we show you Florida? We feel like you'd be a feel at home there, and you'd like it. It's right down the road. So he fights. This is UFC 35, this event. The main event is Jess Pulver versus BJ penn also rico rodriguez is on the card who's another guy we will get to at some point in our crime and sports thing because he's a complete
Starting point is 00:53:32 asshole that did some really dumb shit and i've been waiting to talk about him for a while uh so uh but amar has a different fight ahead of him amar is fighting chuck liddell oh is that right yeah he's got a real fight. I've probably seen this fight. This is not. What year was this? 2003? 2002.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I probably saw this fight. This, yeah, he's fighting. This isn't some, you know, Russian guy in his third career fight. Chuck Liddell was terrifying. Chuck Liddell's a scary motherfucker. He really was. He looked so bad, too. He had like a, he just, He doesn't look like an MMA fighter.
Starting point is 00:54:06 That's what I liked about him. He looked like he probably drinks a lot of Bud Light. He looked like a 70s wrestler. Yeah. He looked like a 70s wrestler. Yeah, he did. He was so in shape. He gave me hope.
Starting point is 00:54:17 He was one of those guys. He gave me hope that I, too. He was Greg the Hammer Valentine, who looked pudgy but never got tired. He's that. That's what I mean. He's one of those guys. He looked like an old wrestler to me. With that weird mohawk.
Starting point is 00:54:26 It was bizarre. So this guy, so he's fighting Liddell, and this is a war. Yeah. This is a fucking war, as you might imagine. If you get in the ring with Chuck Liddell, you better expect one. It's coming, and Amar is ready for it, and he hangs in there. This fight goes all three rounds. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:41 It goes the distance. But Liddell wins. I mean, to go the distance with Liddell, not too bad.adell ends up coming out or top and by points uh 13 and 3 now for amar but there's nothing to be ashamed of there no you went in still 13 and 2 because everybody expects you to lose to ladell that's the thing you went in and this is this is only ladell had one loss coming into this fight he's 21 and 8 career because he fucked off at the end of his career but suck around too long yeah but he had one loss come in and was considered a bad son of a
Starting point is 00:55:08 bitch. So they basically said, here's our toughest guy. You're one of our, in your weight class, here's our toughest guy. And you hung the whole three rounds. I really enjoyed watching Chuck lose, being honest. Just because he stuck around so long. Yeah, he's one of those guys. He's like the fucking shamrock guy
Starting point is 00:55:23 too. watching him lose is fucking yes yeah it feels good too because they just you look at him and you know that they've got tons of fans and people love them that's why they're there right and yeah they sell pay-per-views right it's like watching the cowboys lose it just fucking feels good name recognition someone they need someone with name recognition and then while you're watching that guy they can maybe get you into another guy that you'll follow once they shit can this other guy who's i hope tom brady does the same thing sticks around way too late just watches him lose just watch him throw four interceptions three seasons in a row just fucking shit in the bed i would love
Starting point is 00:55:58 to watch him have a far end of his career where he just goes out like i don't know how i had 29 interceptions this year just as much year. Not just the interceptions, but like his dick shows up on an intern's cell phone. Tom Brady, please send your dick to someone who doesn't want to see it. I beg of you. Sorry, girl who gets it, woman who gets the dick pic,
Starting point is 00:56:17 but it's worth it for everyone else. Take one for the team here, guys. You know what? Send it to a guy because I don't feel as bad for him. That would be amazing. Send it to a guy and then we can have that as sexual that's much better i would like that that way some woman doesn't have to look at his dick some espn intern oh perfect perfect like a picture of
Starting point is 00:56:35 his dick and then another one of him winking no words no a picture from the bottom so you see the dick and the face big smile that would be? That would be amazing. Tom Brady smile. That's the one that I want. After a season of 29 interceptions and four touchdowns. Fuck it. Deal with that. Deal with it. That's great.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Burning hell, Tom Brady. Yeah, fuck you, Tom Brady. Sorry. So come out to Boston on February 18th, 4 p.m. Get your tickets now. Laugh Boston. Tell us why we're assholes and why you love Tom Brady. We know why.
Starting point is 00:57:09 So May 10th, 2002, it's UFC 37 High Impact. Terrific. This was down at the Century Tell Center in Louisiana. The main event here is Murillo Bustamante versus Matt Lindland. Yeah. Do you know these people? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Didn't think so. No. Uh, what, uh, uh, Amar is fighting Phil Barone. Shit. Okay. This complete asshole. This guy, I, I don't want to fight him, but I want you to hold him so I can punch him because I fucking hate this guy.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Phil Barone? Yes. Okay. He drives me crazy. The New York badass is his nickname. This is the guy who gives us all a bad name. You're fucking it up for everybody. Do you understand?
Starting point is 00:57:52 This is the guy who saw one too many episodes of the fucking Sopranos and everything else and he thinks it's cool to constantly talk like that and to fucking order cannolis at McDonald's. They ain't got cannoli here. What's going on? I don't understand. How could you not have cannoli? No, you fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Seriously, this is the guy who makes us all look bad. He's got a poster of Dice Clay in his garage. All of us look bad. All of us. We are allowed. Italians are the last stereotype that you can freely make fun of without saying, oh, I don't know, just kidding. You can just say, oh, yeah, you fucking guinea and walk away and it's fine. Yeah, we're the last one. Listen, my greasy friend. And everybody's like, yeah, they don't know, just kidding. You can just say, haha, yeah, you fucking guinea and walk away and it's fine. We're the last ones.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Listen, my greasy friend. And everybody's like, yeah, they are. This is why. Because based on this guy, we fucking deserve it. We deserve it. And when famous ones of us do this, it's a fucking problem because it's all everybody sees. It would be like if a Mexican
Starting point is 00:58:42 politician who was running for, you know, mayor of L. of la came out and pointy shiny cowboy tips and a big fucking belt buckle and a cowboy shirt that's too tight for them with fringe on it a fucking dumb hat scorpion tattooed on his thumb exactly and pulling up in his landscaping truck with four of his fucking cousins hanging off the back of it that's a stereotype that you're trying to fucking beat they're like don't perpetuate it for la county fuck me jesus christ though so this asshole drives me nuts uh he's 15 and 18 coming in our 15 and 18 career he's only three and one coming in it's the beginning of his career he hits like a motherfucker yeah he's a good puncher this guy's a good striker
Starting point is 00:59:19 baroni talks a bunch of shit before the fight about amar yeah also he's just talking shit he doesn't know anything about him. What the fuck's he going to say? Hey, you're hairy and Russian. What are you going to say? Right. What ends up happening here in round one, Amar hits Barone with an illegal knee. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:59:37 And the ref stands them up and separates them and just telling Amar to fucking whatever, talking about the illegal knee. And Barone comes in and starts punching the shit out of him. Okay. And just comes in and just hits him with a barrage of punches, just beats the shit out of him and ends up, the ref has to stop the fight. There's a TKO. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah, Amar was open and all of a sudden this guy comes in with all these fights, all these punches. Is that Barone wins? He wins, yeah. What? sudden this guy comes in with all these fights, all these punches. Is that, is that Barone wins? He wins, yeah. What? It's a TKO with punches at 255 in round one. Oh, that's so cheap. It was really cheap the way this happened.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Like, you would want, I don't know, this isn't the rules, I'm sure, but you want the ref to go, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, stop. We're fucking starting over. No. No. You know, ring the bell, fucking round two starting now. You guys are, fuck this, round one is a draw. Right. You guys are both assholes. Round one is a draw. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:25 You guys are both assholes. Stop. Illegal, illegal dickheads. Go. So 13-4 now. Now he's lost both his UFC fights and UFC cuts him. Wow. Which seems, honestly.
Starting point is 01:00:36 That's shitty. I mean, that's like giving the championship to Tyson because Holyfield couldn't go on with a bloody ear. It's stupid. It's stupid. It's crazy. It's silly because he went the distance with Chuck Liddell, which I don't see a lot of people doing in here. He goes the distance with Chuck Liddell, and then he, you know, this is a, you'd look at this and go, come on, that's kind of a fluky win. That's not going to, those series of events aren't going to go down like that ever again.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I would have kind of liked to have seen how this played out type of thing here. But instead, he's done with UFC. He goes back to the Red Devil Fight Club with Fedor there. So, yeah, he's going back to his old life now. Out of UFC, I got to say it. Grace. This is Grace right here. That was Grace.
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's done. We just passed it. We passed Grace, and he's done now. Now he's heading down the path of his next tournament is October 13, 2002, the 2H2H5. Simply the best. Simply not the best. It's in Rotterdam again. Sponsored by Simply Orange.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's so bad. It's not good. Simply Orange juice. Simply Orange orange and every single every single combatant comes into music by simply red that's the only thing and the winner gets a bottle of simple green all-purpose cleaner done it's over no money just a bottle of that and the loser has to leave to simple minds playing done some shit 80s song that's it man you're out And the loser has to leave to Simple Minds playing. Done. Some shit 80s song.
Starting point is 01:02:07 That's it, man. You're out. Oh, man. It's depressing. That's super depressing. This is in Rotterdam again. And he's fighting Phil Calhoun again. Phil Calhoun.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Hey, let me tell you something about your pipes, buddy. Let me tell you something. Your pipes, they're worse than your wife. Let me tell you something about your pipes, buddy. Let me tell you something. Your pipes, they're worse than your wife. Let me tell you that right now. Your wife's got a bigger mouth, so I'm going to have to clog this. Listen, I keep fighting. I keep fighting for your shit pipe. I keep fighting for your shit pipes.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I keep fighting in the ring. I don't quit. I don't quit nothing until your pipes are shit clean. That's what I want. I'm Phil Calhoun. I'm Phil Calhoun. I'm Phil Calhoun. And the last thing I think about before I close my eyes at night is your shit pipes. And then he gives the phone number.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Oh, Christ. I've lost to simply the best of tournament. I will clean your shit pipes with Simple Green. I will scrub them clean with Simple Green. That is the contract that I have signed and I will follow through as I am a man. I'm a man of my word. When Paul Calhoun tells you your shit pipes are going to be clean, your shit's going to fly out of your pipes. I'm telling you that right now.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Flying out of your pipes. Shit's going to slide down your pipe like Chevy Chase. Yeah, like Chevy Chase at Christmas Vacation. Right down the hill on a toboggan. You're going to flush your toilet. You're going to go, oh, where'd my shit go? That was too fast. I wanted to stick around for another second, take another look at it.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I didn't want it to go that fast. Ah, for fuck's sake. This Paul Calhoun is too good at his fucking job. He's too good at his fucking job. He's too good at his job. Right, honey? And she said, oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:47 What did you say? He said, that's right. He gave me the back of his hand because Paul Calhoun doesn't write. She says it
Starting point is 01:03:55 through a bag of frozen peas. He sucked the hand up. I'll talk to you about it later, sweetheart. So, we are not advocating domestic violence at all. Never hit women, goddammit. All we do is rag on people for hitting women.
Starting point is 01:04:11 This is fucking funny, I'm sorry. It's funny. Paul Calhoun is the shit. Oh, no, now we got a new fucking character, don't we? I just thought, I just saw myself fucking next week sometime. Paul Calhoun shitpiping it up. Composing music. Paul Calhoun shitpiping it up. Composing music. Paul Calhoun shitpipe enthusiasts.
Starting point is 01:04:29 That's going to be our new LSD. Fucking Paul Calhoun. I want to meet this guy. He's going to be so mad at us. We are so going to have a Paul Calhoun. I want to meet this guy. He's going to be so mad at us. We are so going to have a Paul Calhoun T-shirt up. If not for you guys, if you guys don't want it, just for me. Jesus Christ. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:04:56 So this fight, he actually does fight Paul Calhoun. If I can see my notes, there's tears in my eyes. This, I needed that laugh, though. That was fun. If you don't know when Crystal Pepsi was discontinued, what was in Al Capone's vault, or which famous meteorologist is Lenny Kravitz's second cousin, then you haven't spent enough time on Wikipedia.
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Starting point is 01:06:15 Amar wins in a minute and three seconds of round one. Oh, wow. Quickly beats. He's got shit pipes on his mind. He's distracted with the move that he wins with is the Suliev stretch. Okay. This is a move that is named after him. People have used it in the future here, and it's known as the Suliev stretch.
Starting point is 01:06:33 How do you do it? It's fucked up. You take a guy, all right, or a girl, I guess. You take a gal. You take a person. And basically, you bend them so their leg, you're pulling, like if you had someone in a front face lock, kind of like their head is towards you facing down and you're pulling them down. Okay, now at the same time you're pushing their head toward the ground, have one of their legs be forward so their head would be pushing down into their foot while their other leg is back. Basically.
Starting point is 01:07:01 On the ground? On the ground. What the fuck? Yeah, you're pushing them down like that. So it looks like. That's more like a fucking pretzel than it is a. Yeah, your leg is the ground? On the ground. Yeah, you're pushing them down like that, so it looks like... That's more like a fucking pretzel than it is a... Yeah, your leg is all the way by your face in the front, and your head is down there, where it looks
Starting point is 01:07:11 like your leg is going to snap off if you don't give up. You're trying to force them to suck their own dick, and making them do the splits at the same time. It's the weirdest fucking move, and it's like, who the hell would think of that shit? And you're laying over them, pushing them down. Yeah, it's some shit you'd think up and be like, well, no one will ever let me do that to them. And then fucking Paul Calhoun comes in distracted by visions of shit pipes.
Starting point is 01:07:31 And he's like, oh, no, I got caught up. Oh, for Christ's sake. You like shit pipes? I'm going to try to show you yours. Hey, let me show you my shit. Oh, no, what happened? All right. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Where's your wife? Tried to put his head up his own ass. Pretty much. He tried to put his head into his dick, except using one of his legs and pulling it forward, too. Fuck. Like, let's put your leg into your foot and your dick. But got to have your legs open so that you can see your shit pipe clearly. Yeah, and we'll post a picture of the picture of the move.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But it's disturbing. So I've seen this here. So he's 14 and 4 now. This brings us to November the 15th, 2002, which is the very next month. He fights M1 MFC Russia versus the World 4 in St. Petersburg, back in Russia.
Starting point is 01:08:14 You know you hear that. That's a loss right as you get off the plane. If you had to go back to Russia right away, you should be 14 and 5 now. That's one loss in his life anyway. He fights Julian Gonzalez here, another back to the non-linkers here. He's a 3-4 career record, 0-1 coming in. So this doesn't last long.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Round one, Amar wins by submission with a rear naked choke at a minute 38, bringing him to 15-4, not counting getting off the plane. October 10, 2003, this russia versus the world six another mfc event in saint petersburg he fights yushin okami who is not russian i promise you he's a kind of a tall balding japanese man i was thinking that uh he wasn't guessing balding no right it's kind of a weird little uh yeah so anyway he's 34 and 11 career he's six and oh coming in so this is an up-and-comer now. The 6-0 coming in is no joke. Amar wins in round one at 444 from a TKO from punches.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah. And this is an impressive win. People are impressed with this because Isokami is an up-and-comer. Yeah. And they thought he was expecting him to be good, and he's 34-11 lifetime, which is a pretty fucking good record. So this brings Amar to 16-4. Brings him to New Year's Eve of 2003, December 31st, 2003. Anokhi Bombaye, 2003.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Like the fucking Ali thing? The Ali phrase? It's weird. Anokhi, like Antonio Anokhi, and then B-O-M-B-A-Y-E. Bombaye? I don't know. I mean, Ali Bombayet was that. It's basically the same thing, I think.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Inoki? Well, Antonio Inoki. He's a Japanese. I don't know. I don't know what Antonio Inoki had to do with this. Maybe it's his interpretation of what the word was. Maybe. You know what?
Starting point is 01:10:01 Inoki is such a huge wrestling promoter. I don't know anything outside of that. He might have a stake in this. If it's a Japanese card and it's in Kobe, was. Maybe. You know what? Inoki is such a huge wrestling promoter. I don't know anything outside of that. He might have a stake in this. If it's a Japanese card and it's in Kobe, Japan, a Japanese card, he might be kind of his hand in this. You know, who knows? Either way, he's fighting Din Thomas. Amar is.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Din Thomas is a 26 and 9 career record here. Amar wins by TKO with punches in round one and i watched this fight too and uh didn't kept trying to come in and uh kept trying to like leg dive him and amar would just kind of ride him out like he did this really nice and then at the end here he overcomes him with punches nice it's a tko he's up to 17 and four good for you amar no shit pipe cleaning for you pal july 19th 2004 uh this is pride Bushido 4 is the name of the card. It's in Nagoya, Japan. So at least he's getting out of Russia here.
Starting point is 01:10:52 He fights Dean Lister, who's a 13-7 career record. He sounds like a bad accountant to Dean Lister. He's like a failed accountant selling real estate now or something. Being in a white-collar prison somewhere. Somewhere, yeah. Dean Lister, here's a weird thing. When you're doing research, you find weird shit like this. It's just a strange thing.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Six of his first eight opponents' first names started with J. Really? Dean Lister. Yeah, it was so weird. It was like John, James, Jacob. It was the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen. Amar wins a split decision. This goes the distance.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah. Two rounds. Amar wins a split decision, so he the distance. Yeah. Two rounds. Amar wins a split decision. So he almost lost to Dean Lister. Jesus. Which doesn't seem like where he should be right now. He's 18-4. Now he is Amar, which brings us up to April 3rd, 2005.
Starting point is 01:11:37 So July 2004 to April 2005 is quite the layoff. Yeah. And this is Pride Bushido 6. So apparently he missed Bushido 5 in there somewhere. During a layoff like that, like a time, is that a layoff or is it a layover? I don't know. Layoff. Being off that long of your quote unquote career and your friends ask you, are you still
Starting point is 01:12:00 doing that fighting thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have training. For six months you got to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still do it. I swear I do. Yeah, I'm just in training now. That's why I'm not eating the shit that you're putting out for dinner that's terrible, but I have an excuse.
Starting point is 01:12:10 It's like being a comedian. If you had six months off, do you still tell those dick jokes? Do you still do that thing? So no one has seen you. Right. They haven't seen you personally. Right. They're not like, you haven't been out, but they haven't seen you.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Right. So you still do that? Yeah. I swear I do it. I do things when you leave the room. Right. You know? I piss sometimes.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I eat. You haven't seen me eat. Have you asked me if I've eaten every meal? You fucking dummy. So, uh. You fucking. I'm salty today, boy. I'm salty.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I've been dealing. Sarah is sick at home. She has a horrible flu. I feel so bad for her. Hopefully by the time this comes out, she'll feel better. Hopefully by the is sick at home. She has a horrible flu. I feel so bad for her. Hopefully by the time this comes out, she'll feel better. Hopefully by the time you get home. But she is in bad shape over there. And I feel terrible.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And I'm trying to take care of her. And she is the biggest complainer on the face of the earth that I feel so bad for. And she's in such pain. I understand. And I feel so bad. And I can't help her. And so I'm happy to be out and laughing. And I also feel guilty at the same time.
Starting point is 01:13:03 She's home dying. And I'm like, ha, ha, ha And I also feel guilty at the same time. She's home dying. And I'm like, clean your shit pipe. Yeah. You know, I feel bad. That's so good. This is in Yokohama, Japan. He fights Paul Philho, who is a 23 and 6 career fighter. Amar loses this fight in the first round.
Starting point is 01:13:21 This is not good. He loses in 422 in the first round. He's 18-5 now. November 3, 2005, M1 MFC Russia versus France. Yeah. I think they tried that once before. That happened. They asked Napoleon what happened.
Starting point is 01:13:35 So St. Petersburg, this is Damian Riccio. He's fighting. 8-14 career record. He lost the last six of his career, this guy. Oh, Jesus. And this is one of them. Okay. MR wins by KO at 1 minute 25 seconds of round one. 8-14 career record. He lost the last six of his career, this guy. Oh, Jesus. And this is one of them. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:49 MR wins by KO at 1 minute 25 seconds of round one. So he's winning to knock the shit out of this guy. 19-5. April 22, 2006. This is Cage Rage 16. Great. In London. I know these fucking names.
Starting point is 01:14:00 You're like, Jesus, who cares? It's enough with Cage and Rage. Keep those out of it. Cage and Rage and this. Rage and the Cage. We get it. We and rage and this. Rage of the cage. We get it. We understand. There's a couple dudes fighting. They're all raging.
Starting point is 01:14:10 It's a big rage. It's awful. Yes, we get it. The shit pipes are clogged. Thank you. London. This is in London. He fights James Evans Nickel, who sounds British.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Sure. He is a 7-2 career fighter who is 6-0 coming into this fight. Great. So another 6-0. This fight, the doctor stops it after the first round. So he goes the whole first round, James Evans nickel, and then the doctor goes over, takes a look at him, and says he's not coming out for round two. Right. Fight's over.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Amar is up to 20-5. Jesus. We'll push to the end of these fights quick here. June 4, 2006, Bushido 11, pride event in Saitama, Japan. He fights Murilo Bustamante, who actually was a main eventer in a couple of those. He's a 15 and 8 career fighter. Bustamante is? Bustamante, yeah, but he had like heat coming up at first.
Starting point is 01:14:58 It was weird. Amar, this fight goes the distance. Full distance, two rounds is the distance there. And Amar wins by unanimous decision after two rounds, 21 and five he is. Still fighting for pride in August of 2006, so just a couple months later, we have Bushido 12 in Nagoya, Japan. He fights Dennis Kang, which sounds like a made-up Asian guy. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:15:20 It sounds like if you told your wife you were with an Asian guy and you weren't, and you were like, that was my friend. He's this Asian guy. I'm like, what's his name? Dennis Kang. Sounds like a Mortal Kombat character. It's like fucking George Costanza on Seinfeld when he sells the opera ticket. And he's like, that was Henry Fong.
Starting point is 01:15:37 He's a big opera buff or whatever his name was that he said. He's made up. He's an Asian guy. Anything with NG at the end of it. You just make it sound Asian. Give him an American first name. Yeah, it's George fucking Kim. I know him. Bill Lynn, you know him.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You know him. So he's 35 and 16, Dennis Kang. Amar, four minutes and ten seconds into the first round, Amar loses. He has to submit because he's caught in a rear naked choke. So old Dennis Kang uses his Asian ingenuity to choke him out and bring his record to 21-6.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Now, January 20, 2007, back fighting with the M1 MFC guys again, which I assume is less preferable than Pride. Sounds like it. Sounds like it. Pride's got a TV show, doesn't it? I don't know. Yeah, I don't think this M1 has one of those bad... I've seen the footage from it. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:16:31 The cameras are bad. Like a fucking Handycam. Those fucking Russians need to... It's funny because they pretty much invented film. Right. You know what I mean? Like making film and how to edit film. And now they don't have any idea how to fucking shoot and put something together.
Starting point is 01:16:41 They're still doing it from then. Yeah, they haven't figured it out. They need to get the communists back from 100 years ago. At least they knew how to make films. No freedom, but they knew how to fucking edit something, so it didn't look like shit. No freedom, but it's because they're forced to make film. That's all. They're really good at it.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Well, fuck. They were good. Neither did they get poisoned. That happens, too. So this is M1MFC Russia versus Korea in St. Petersburg. He's fighting Hoon Kim here. He's a 10 and 12 career fighter. This fight goes four minutes and 35 seconds only in round one.
Starting point is 01:17:13 And Amar wins by TKO with punches. He's a great fighter. He's a good – Amar is a tough son of a bitch, man. He really – and he watches fights too. He's a tough, sturdy – he's a tough son of a bitch. He's 22 and 6. You'd have to be. He's an Armenian-Russian.
Starting point is 01:17:24 These guys are sturdy people. Tough people. They're tough, man. Survivors. Survivors, sturdy. He's a tough son of a bitch. He's 22 and 6. You'd have to be. He's an Armenian-Russian. These guys are sturdy people. Tough people. They're tough, man. Survivors. Survivors, exactly. April 14, 2007, this is the Bodog fight, Clash of the Nations in St. Petersburg again. He fights Andy Foster, who doesn't sound Russian or- He sounds very friendly.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Very friendly, Andy Foster. He's a non-linker with a 9-2 career record. Puts together a hell of a cheese plate. He does. He goes, hey, guys, me and the wife put together this cheese plate. Want to play some canasta? Guys, you're going to have to use the bathroom in our master because the hallway, the shit pipes are clogged.
Starting point is 01:17:57 We've got... Paul's coming in. Paul's here on Tuesday. The peas are on ice. Paul's coming in and we're going to clean that shit pipe up. But for now, just use the master, guys. Okay? Thank you. Yes the master, guys. Okay? Thank you.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Yes, that's Bree. Okay. So Andy Foster's 9-2 career. He's 9-1 coming into this fight. This is his last fight. Amar punches him into retirement in 26 seconds with a knockout with punches. 23-6 for Amar. June 14, 2007, it's a bowdog fight, Alvarez versus Lee.
Starting point is 01:18:27 It's in Trenton, New Jersey. Oh, boy. Coming to the States, baby. Trenton, New Jersey. He's fighting Chael Sonnen. Oh, really? Yes, another guy we've heard of and dealt with before. I know that he's tough.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Absolutely. He's a 29-15 career fighter. And in Sonnen's second fight, he beat Jason Mayhem Miller, who was episode 89 of our podcast. You might want to go back and listen to. These all come together. They do. Amar loses by TKO from punches
Starting point is 01:18:56 in round two at 333. This was a fight, too. These guys went at it, man. This was a fight. And Amar doesn't back down from shit. I will say that, whether it's Liddell, Barone, he doesn't back down from anybody. He's coming at you. But he's back out of the States on April 3rd, 2008, for the M1 Challenge 2 Russia. This is in St. Petersburg.
Starting point is 01:19:20 He fights Jacek Bukzo. He's a non-linker, this guy, doesn't matter shit about him. Amar only takes 56 seconds to get back on track here and TKO this guy with kicks and punches. It's funny, it says on every site TKO kicks and punches and it should just say pummeling ref had to fucking save this guy's life. That's what it should say. Fucking Amar was like, I'm getting my getting my wind back beating the shit out of people uh that is 24 and 7 for the career and that is his last fight wow last fight for him uh he's all done uh so he doesn't know what to do yeah he's in russia he just stays in russia after his career is over uh he's known
Starting point is 01:20:03 as a real badass yeah uh He's got a great reputation. He's been fighting on TV all throughout Russia. So a guy hires him, a guy named Sergei Zirinov. And we've got to try to stay out of a little bit of this because there is so much Russian politics mixed into this. Zirinov is one of Putin's political allies. Oh, no. He's in Putin's party. He's one of Putin's political allies.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Oh, no. He's in Putin's party. He's a member of the Legislative Assembly of the Krasnodar Parliament. Okay. So he's all tied in. There's a lot of corruption. This guy's a problem. The way Russia works is Putin's a mob boss.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Right. And this is absolutely right. Putin's a mob boss. And what he does is he can do anything he wants. So rather than it's not about power, it's about money for him. So he kills people whose shit he wants. That's how he does it. He doesn't kill people like that guy insulted me. He kills them because he wants their business or he wants to do that business now.
Starting point is 01:21:01 So if that guy runs all of this in the country, if I just kill him, then I do that business and I make all that money. And he does that all over the place. Putin does. It's fucking crazy. So he's got just a team of thug fucking thug political allies that go around and and and kill people and rough people and take money and tell people that they're going to give him a.
Starting point is 01:21:22 He's a mob boss. Sounds so familiar. It's fucking crazy. No, it's it's he goes around like like not even like a Tony Soprano mob boss, like whoever the bad guy is in a mob movie. We're like, that's another, the guys are like, you know, you can't treat people like that. That's enough. You know, I got to stand up for the neighborhood at some point.
Starting point is 01:21:37 That guy's in charge of the whole thing. That guy's in charge of the whole country. It's fucking bonkers. So, yeah. So this guy, this Sergei Zirinov, starts a security company called VAN. It's a private security company. It's in the Kray region there of Russia, the Krasnodarsky Kray region, as they call it. Wow, that's so bad. So this guy, Zir zaranoff has his security company he runs a private security company which does do private security and it also is his private
Starting point is 01:22:11 enforcer stable okay basically these guys are the people who are gonna keep you in fucking line it's a team of hitmen a guy you would like to do with that a guy that yes an intimidating fellow who's good with his hands and good with probably could make people possibly change their minds with chokes and punches and kicks and every fucking else and no referee to stop it and nobody to step in even if he submits that's the thing so uh he's a good fit for this type of deal here he's a good fit and in russia resume is amazing for what the fuck else is he gonna do you know what i mean i don't know if he's got any other skills seems like he's been fighting since he was younger.
Starting point is 01:22:46 There's not a lot of records of any younger life. Probably not a great computer hacker. I doubt he's good at coding, things like that. He's going to rough people up. He's going to be a thug. Make vodka or beat people up. Definitely. So this is all sort of, he's basically an enforcer for him now.
Starting point is 01:23:02 He's in this private security group. And Zirinov's considered like a rising member here. You know what I mean? Of Putin's. He's got the United Russia Party and he's a big part of it. And Sulev is like one of his prize pupils, this guy. He's like, I got a fucking. I assume there's a sense of pride, too, because he's kind of known.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Sure. You know what I mean? Like, I got this known badass on my squad. Yeah. Which all sounds pretty fun. And he's running around Russia doing fuck. Yeah. This sounds like a good time.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Like some kind of crazy fun movie. He's in a black Mercedes somewhere all the time. Oh, you know it. Just getting out. He's got a suit on or like, you know, some decent clothes. He's supposed to look very mean all the time. And every once in a while he goes over and grabs someone by the throat. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And tells them that they're going to do what they're told to do. And the guy goes, go get me coffee. Yeah. That's how he asks for coffee. He grabs by the throat and tells them that they're going to do what they're told to do. And the guy goes, go get me coffee. That's how he asks for coffee. He grabs by the throat. Yeah, exactly. There's a problem, though. The gang doesn't just go around and muscle people. They go around and do worse than that.
Starting point is 01:23:55 They are believed to have killed several people. For this, we'll just keep the scope of these people that they think they killed while Amar was involved with them here. They believe they killed, there was the Malaya Bukta Sanatorium, which is a hospital basically, a medical shit. They're nuts. The director of that is Vizhali Sadanichi. Yep.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Yeah. He said, yeah, yeah, I know him. Yeah, I know his work. For sure. He's very good. Good friend of mine. And his wife, Olga Ivankina. And they killed those two. Wow. This gang killed the two of these two because
Starting point is 01:24:34 they wanted the sanatorium or sanitarium. What is it? Well, what they did is they were... It's a Metallica song. They were... That's funny. He was told to do something by Zeranoff. He was told to do something by Zirinov. He was told to do something with the company to restructure something with the sanitarium. He refused to do it, so he had them killed.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Their bodies were later found in a shallow grave. Had them killed, and then Zirinov came in and bought all the sanitarium stock that they had to resell them and make a profit. So, no, he just made a profit. He just took free shit. Oh, and then he just sold it. Took it from them and fucking sold it. Wow. Made money off of it.
Starting point is 01:25:09 And that's his thing. All right, you don't want to do that? I'll just steal your shit and do it. He's got a partner here. God damn this fucking name. Hambardzon. Hambardzon is his first name. They call him Hambone.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Hambone. Hambone Ariari. Fuck. Ari call him Hambone. Hambone. Hambone Ari- Ari- Ari- Hambone Ari- So his partner Hambone here has also helped him start this gang back in 1999. So
Starting point is 01:25:37 Amar just kind of comes in, hits the ground running with these guys. And they're said to have killed, like we said, the couple. Also, they're said to have killed uh like we said the the couple also they're said to have killed a businessman a russian businessman named solomon uh nabiev uh they also killed him because they wanted uh he was supposed to uh they wanted him to sell one of his business entities to somebody that they were favorable to and he refused and didn't do it just how they wanted so they killed him and just took what they want from him.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Just said, OK, well, then we'll just do it then. Yeah, we'll just kill you. We don't need you. Right. That's so crazy. That's fucking nuts. How is that fucking possible? Because there's no law.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Right. Because when nobody looks into shit, if you don't have a fucking government investigation agency that has any power over people in power, such as the fucking president, then you have problems like this. Like Putin can do whatever the fuck he wants. This is nuts. This is the problem. They have no control over Putin. There's nobody in the middle just going, oh, well, we got this.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Slow down, you guys. There's no checks or balances. In this country, we have some checks and balances. They don't always work all the time. There's just checks and they're flowing everywhere. There's just checks and they're being stolen and rerouted to other people's accounts and it's a fucking mess. Fuck the balances. You could say how fucked up our country is
Starting point is 01:26:51 and it's plenty fucked up. We have a lot of international listeners. I'm sure they agree of how fucked up America is and I'm sure they think their countries are fucked up too. It is nowhere near as fucked up as Russia. I can pretty much guarantee you wherever you're listening from is not as fucked up as Russia. Unless you're I can pretty much guarantee you wherever you're listening from is not as fucked up as Russia. Unless you're in Russia. Unless you're in Syria
Starting point is 01:27:07 or North Korea or some horrible shit all like that. Now what ended up happening is that after a while in Annapa, the place there, Annapa, the gang pretty much controlled a lot of the businesses. It just ran everything. They owned a city
Starting point is 01:27:23 basically. It just fucking owned all the business. They killed people who didn't do what they wanted. So they either owned your business, or you paid them protection, or you paid them tribute, or you did whatever, or they killed you, and then they took your business.
Starting point is 01:27:35 So there's really just no choice here. This is definitely like the mob 2.0 going on here. The security company, by the way, was called Visya Anapa Nasha. The whole Anapa is ours. Oh, jeez. Is that the name of their business? That's the name of the security company. It's called V-A-N.
Starting point is 01:27:54 And that's where it's coming from. It stands for we own you. We own your shit and we're going to take it from you. And if you don't agree to it, this guy's going to choke the fuck out of you. So it's fucking crazy. What they end up doing here, they kill those people, but the thing that really got the authorities' attention is they
Starting point is 01:28:09 attempted to kill a local politician named Nikolai Nestorenko. Can't fucking do this. This was like the Billy Batts hit in Goodfellas. You can't kill Billy Batts. He's a made guy. They put him in the fucking trunk and then it's a problem later on.
Starting point is 01:28:25 They come looking for him, and Joe Pesci gets a bullet in the back of his fucking head, and he thinks he's getting made. That's what happens. That's what happens. So they go after this guy, and that's a fucking no-no, and this gets the police and the actual investigative body's attentions here. What they end up doing is they end up attacking this guy at 9 a.m. one morning. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:28:45 He and his driver, a car pulls up, and it's a Volkswagen Golf, and just absolutely spray this car down with bullets that these two are in, Nestorenko and his driver. Nestorenko's driver is killed, but Nestorenko has survived, just shot up like crazy. But he did, you know, he got a message anyway. So this made him want the police to go after this guy. And that's what ended up happening is now they go after the whole gang and they try to take them down. Also in this gang, they had all sorts of people. They had a police officer named Igor Nehyenko who ended up, when this all went down, he ends up slipping out of the country and getting away.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Karnik Aslanian, Edward Palladian, Amar, of course, Dmitry Sepakininov, we'll call him Dmitry, Anatas Tygorov, which is a Tygorov. That's awesome. Tygorov. I wanted to be Tygorov. And Andrei Mirochinkov. Fuck these names today, man. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Holy shit. Yeah, you're so lucky with your list of fucking, this is what I mean. I'm like, never mind that. This is worse. So, yeah, this is the gang here. In 2013, after months of investigation, the whole gang is arrested, minus Hambone, who got away, and the other one here, who I couldn't pronounce, the police officer who skedaddled out of the country here. They are arrested for all of their roles in committing crimes. Their crimes here are banditry, which sounds awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Banditry. That's like piratry. Fucking great. Attempted murder, illegal acquisition, transfer sales, storage, transportation, or bearing of firearms, and murder of two or more persons. Oh, Christ. They don't even count. All of them.
Starting point is 01:30:38 They're just thrown along. Two or more. This new individual. You guys killed more than two. This is a special thing here. So they have a hearing on a Christmas day here in 2013. And this is in Rostov. So there we go.
Starting point is 01:30:50 It's Chikatilo in the background. So they have this little hearing and they're charging them with murder. They're charging attempted murder. They're saying that Amar is the wheel man. He's a getaway driver and one of the shooters for the for the politician attempted assassination. And that's a big deal. Yeah. He said he can kill business people.
Starting point is 01:31:13 You can fuck around. You can't start killing politicians. People notice that shit. So they say that he is one of them. Turns out that Miro Miro Schick and SEP of Jesus. That was Hinginov. Fuck. that Mirochnik and Sapov, Jesus, Sapovs Hingunov, what they end up doing, unbeknownst to the other people at this point, is they sign an agreement on pretrial cooperation. They're going to flip on the gang.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Oh, assholes. That includes Amar and that includes everybody. They're going to flip on him. So they give the whole structure, the whole organization, what Zirinov does, all the different things he owns. They're talking about him being – even dentist offices he owns. He owns like dental businesses. He owns fucking everything, this guy. He just takes whatever he wants.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I get why, but fucking why? Yeah. It's fucking ridiculous, but he just takes whatever he wants. They said that the Anapa Cossack market they were by, the politician, when they ended up getting shot at, they fired a caliber 7.62 millimeter. I don't know what fucking caliber that is. That's just below a 9 millimeter. Okay, 7.62, but I mean like I've never heard of a 7.62. I've never heard of it either. Some weird Russian caliber gun.
Starting point is 01:32:27 There's no 7mm gun. That's what I meant to say. I don't know why I said it wrong. But yeah, it was like a 7.62mm. They shoot at the politician while he's getting into the car. And as they're doing that, they shoot through the car and they hit Victor Zouk, who was his driver. He was killed right on the spot. And Nestorenko was hit in the arm and leg and also in the body on this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:32:51 A gut shot. It's a gut shot, kid. It's a gut shot. No good. No good. I was just seeing Harvey Keitel in Reservoir Dogs. It's a gut shot, kid. It's a gut shot.
Starting point is 01:33:02 You're going to make it. You're going to make it. It's a terrible shot. It's in the gut. It's going to make it. You're going to make it. It's a terrible shot. It's in the gut. It's going to hurt, but you're going to make it. He panics in that movie about how gut shots are so bad. Gut shots are terrible, kid. Defendant Dimitri, whose name I won't pronounce here, he's one of the guys who offered testimony.
Starting point is 01:33:21 He's the one who places Amar as the driver and one of the shooters during the uh assassination attempt of this politician we've never had a guy turn into a contract killer by the way this is the number one first time here took 100 episodes what we got to uh yeah now this guy uh dimitri had another murder beef that he pled to with this also so this feels like he just wanted protection almost so he's pleads to a murder beef and part pled to with this also. So this feels like he just wanted protection almost. So he's pleads to a murder beef and part of this. So, I mean, the information, who knows how reliable it is. They want to take everybody down and they want to take them down for this crime.
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Starting point is 01:35:57 Jesus. It's fucking crazy, man. But this all happened at 9 a.m., which is very important to figure out later on because some people say that he was that maybe Amar wasn't there at 9 a.m. Couldn't have been in this car shooting. So Amar at one point, there's people testifying against him, though. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:36:17 They're testifying against him. Testifying about his involvement in that particular shooting. But they're also talking about his general involvement in like in all of like going around strong arming a dentist and going around doing this. And they're just basically building this case against Amar. If you're telling a story sitting there, this case of him roughing people up and doing all this shit culminating with him being a driver in a murder. Things seems perfectly reasonable. Eliminating with him being a driver in a murder thing seems perfectly reasonable. What must he be thinking here? Because if he didn't do this, he's fucking sitting in jail. But he got himself fucked up with Russian organized crime gangster Putin's buddies.
Starting point is 01:36:56 You can't fucking do this. Russian prison's got to suck, too. It can't be great. It's got to be shit. And I've seen footage from Dotsik there, and it looks terrible. He's sitting in fucking Russian prison, which is awful. fucking hanging out maybe dot sick is there with him he's sitting there talking shit to him and out of nowhere a guy comes in that doesn't look russian at all and it's estafes jones mma fighter and 70s blaxploitation film villain and he says Motherfucker. How is it you come to arrive here, motherfucker?
Starting point is 01:37:30 What's wrong with you, man? You fought Chuck Liddell, that mohawk, fat, wrestler-looking motherfucker. I seen you fight him. I seen it. Now what you doing? You sitting in a Russian-ass motherfucker prison. You see, you motherfucking stupid. All you motherfucking organized crime You see, you motherfuckers are stupid. All you motherfuckers, organized crime.
Starting point is 01:37:45 This ain't no organized. You ain't organized because you in here sitting next to doxics shitting out in the open. I shit on a toilet, you understand. I shit on a toilet in my room. It's solid gold. I got my ladies around me handing me paper four at a time, folded neatly, you understand. More like disorganized crime, motherfuckers. Motherfuckers is disorganized.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I ain't even got time for your punk Russian ass cracker motherfucker. They're getting out of here. Cracker ass cracker. Fuck this shit. Poof. And in a poof of golden mink, he's gone. And Ammar is very confused because he only understood half the words the guy said, number one, because he doesn't speak much English. And number two, he said, how he get into prison and leave and go.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Putin must like him. How he say fuck a mother. OK, say fuck a mother. He say fuck a mother. So now 2000. Jesus. 2016. Yeah. A witness states they get another witness in court stating that the driver in the Nestorenko botched assassination.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Right. the driver in the Nestorenko botched assassination was actually a frail man of Slavic appearance who weighed no more than 50 kilograms, which doesn't describe Amar at all. Now, they said that his lawyer, which is the best part, his lawyer said this couldn't have been him because obviously he weighed a lot more than that. This is what the lawyer said. Quote, there are two options. I love because this is all translated, so it's hilarious. There are two options. Either fired from another car or the shooters were different people. Suliev is a man of pronounced oriental appearance.
Starting point is 01:39:20 To mix it with a man of Slavic appearance is absolutely impossible and he certainly cannot be called lean Suliev is a professional fighter and a champion of the world at that time there were 105 kilos of solid muscle so he does not look oriental in any way shape or form he does not look Asian he looks like a fucking Armenian guy
Starting point is 01:39:40 that's the only way to describe him what does he look like? I don't know he's kind of Armenian he's a little Persian-y. I don't fucking know that they're the same thing. He's kind of a little darker. He's got a thick beard. Looks like he shaved this morning, but it's still there. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:54 One of those guys. That's who he is. He's not oriental in appearing at all, so I don't know where that's pulled out of his list. You guys remember when they pulled Saddam Hussein out of that hole? That's what he looks like. That's what he looks like. Now, through 2015, his health is suffering, Suliev, and he keeps complaining and complaining about his health, and he keeps asking for medical
Starting point is 01:40:09 attention, and he keeps asking for trial to be delayed for medical detention and all this kind of thing, and they keep denying him, keep denying him, keep denying him. So on January 8, 2016, there's a Judge Volkov, I believe Nikolai Volkov's uncle from the ex-WWF wrestler
Starting point is 01:40:26 who denies he denies him medical care instead what they do is he doesn't want to be returned to prison he says that quote I'm returned to prison where nobody cares about my condition and no one is involved in my treatment he doesn't know what to do
Starting point is 01:40:42 basically here he's standing there. He lost nearly 50 pounds since the last time they saw him in court from like November to January. That's a shitload of weight to lose, 50 pounds. He looks terrible. Do they have AIDS? Well, what they do is
Starting point is 01:40:57 they end up, they don't postpone anything. They take him to, they take him in an ambulance and give him a drip and make him take a pill that he didn't know what it was and was not allowed to be hospitalized for a whole other week after that. They waited a week. They just said, here's a drip and a pill.
Starting point is 01:41:16 You're fine, which it wasn't fine. They finally take him to the hospital, and they do a test that finds out he has an aggravated ulcer and chemical burns in the esophagus. Oh, Jesus. And they say that's what caused gastric bleeding and that was his problem. Now, it was also they wanted to do further tests to examine the stomach tissue to do biopsies and shit like that to make sure there was no risk of stomach cancer and that sort of thing. And the doctors end up not doing it because of, quote, technical issues.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Fuck is a technical issue for that? We have that machine broken. I don't know. Our shit pipes are clogged. We have no way of doing that. No thing. So his lawyers are begging. They're fucking begging for this.
Starting point is 01:42:02 They're saying, please look at him. He's withered away to nothing. The lawyer said, quote, the likelihood of cancer is quite large. This can be seen from even a single endoscopy. The conclusions of this week are very disappointing. Our client is slowly dying and 10 lawyers and four public prosecutors cannot possibly get medical treatment from the court. That's crazy. It's fucking nuts.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Now, there's a court ruling outside of this. That's crazy. It's fucking nuts. Now, there's a court ruling outside of this on January 27th, 2016. The court, they rule that the court has no right to refuse his release on medical grounds. They they could refer to inappropriate behavior of the prisoner as a way to to not be able to let him out for medical treatment even. But if he hasn't done any terrible behavior, a seriously ill prisoner's behavior is not pivotal to the discussion about a release from detention. Sure. Basically what they said is no matter what he's accused of,
Starting point is 01:42:53 that doesn't matter and whatever. They said only the diagnosis matters, not the charges. Sure. Which makes sense, and I'm very surprised that a Russian court would decide that because that seems reasonable. You know what I mean? Seems like they'd just be like, let him die. He will die.
Starting point is 01:43:07 If he dies, then he deserves because criminal. You know, he must be arrested for something. So, yeah, only if the disease is on the list of acceptable diseases. There's approved ones. There's an approved disease list. There is. Then he must be released. All right.
Starting point is 01:43:24 January 28th, it is confirmed that Amar has stage four stomach cancer. That's on the list. All right. Which meant that it's already spread from its starting point all over his body at this point. The defense returns to the court with medical documents saying his diagnosis and saying, please, can we get him out on bail now? documents saying his diagnosis and saying, please, can we get him out on bail now? Finally, January 27th or 29th, 2016, Volkov sets them on the roll in this aquarium.
Starting point is 01:43:57 They keep them in those glass, like a Saddam Hussein thing, the glass partitions, and they just line them all up. And this poor guy, it's the whole gang. It's like the five of them. And they have to hold Ammar up. He can't even stand up. That's how sick he is. He's so sick he can't even fucking stand up. He gets up.
Starting point is 01:44:10 They prop him up to plead his case for the judge. And he says, in their own words, quote, Your Honor, I am worse and worse and worse. It's a vicious circle. I could not participate in the process. From my judgment, I am returned to prison where nobody cares about my condition and no one is involved in my treatment I'm not trying to make you pity. I can make anything I can make anything you want But what I but what I want here, I do really do not understand what is happening. I do not listen I feel dizzy noise in the ears weight loss continues. I ask you to treat this understanding and adjourn
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yeah, yeah adjourn. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. He's begging. He's begging. Look at me. Fuck. I can't stand up for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 01:44:52 For Christ's sake. So the prosecutor sides with the defense. Really? This is a Russian prosecutor. And he says, quote, today is the rare case in which we are in complete solidarity with the defense. To put it mildly, this does not look like a healthy person. He lost, look at him, he's fucking dying. He's fucking
Starting point is 01:45:10 dying, his shit pipe's o'clocked, obviously. So, yeah, so they end up doing this, they let him out, or let him get bail for whatever the fuck here. So, for his medical treatment, he's taken to moscow hospital
Starting point is 01:45:26 his case is now separated from the other four right and postponed until he's physically able because he hasn't been diagnosed as terminal quite yet uh he goes to hospital he's terminal he's terminal as fuck yeah he ends up going to a hospital in moscow told you happy ending or not not a happy one uh his health is deteriorating badly over the early part of 2016. Another one of the members of the gang was sick in February. They have an elderly member of the gang here who is also trying to say he was dying. The judge told him to, quote, sit in the presence of the court and the jury. Tough shit is what he said because they had a doctor have to come in before court yeah to treat him because he was whatever and the guy the doctor said well he could technically
Starting point is 01:46:09 participate in this in the session but i'd rather he go to bed and the doctor says sit here in the presence and fuck off the lawyer pleaded and said quote your honor think about suliev like he could be fucking half dead by the next time you see him. This guy could be dead, man. May of 2016, Suliev is released completely from, you know, he's just in the hospital and going back to his home now. Rather than, I mean, he still has the whole thing going. He's still dying. But they're like, he's fucking dying here. Now, June 20th, 2016, two witnesses come forward and take the stand in his defense. Really?
Starting point is 01:46:42 This is weird as shit, okay? Two witnesses. The first one is a woman who is friends with his wife. She said that, quote, I left my house with my children without 15 minutes, about 15 minutes of 9 and headed to the house of the Sulev family. Approximately 9 a.m. I went to the house and saw Amara Suliev uh greeted exchanged a few phrases it's Amara's who she's talking about she's saying he was there at nine she's saying I saw him at
Starting point is 01:47:10 nine o'clock that day so he definitely definitely wasn't the driver and also in addition to him there is a a guy named Dennis uh Yaroshenko who had who's known Suliev for years now they went to the gym together uh they met in the gym. They hang out, talk about sports or whatever. This guy, he owned buildings, and he also ran crews for work to do things. Right. He was almost late for work because it was like 9 o'clock in the morning. He had to be there at 9.
Starting point is 01:47:41 And he had recently bought an apartment he couldn't get into. He lost a set of keys. Oh, shit. It was a big apartment building. So they had to end up getting a sledgehammer and breaking the fucking door down with a sledgehammer. And he needed Suliev to break it. No, he didn't. He didn't. But he said he came.
Starting point is 01:47:53 He knocked the sledgehammer down and was pissed off. And he had to leave to get to his car. He had to pass Suliev's house. And he said Amar was standing on the sidewalk. At 9 a.m. In front of the sidewalk at 9 a.m. in front of the house at 9 a.m. and he said, you know, he's easily recognizable and all that sort of thing. And he said he knew him for 15 years and he said, hello, how you doing?
Starting point is 01:48:13 And they talked for a second. And he said, you know, Yaroshenko said I had to go because I was already late for work. He said I had to be work at work at nine. I could not be late. I had to give out the orders to the workers. Right. Blah, blah, blah. So he says he got in his car and looked at his watch, Yerushchenko, and it was 9.05 a.m. that morning.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Already late. Already late for work and also five minutes past the time of the shooting. And Ammar is standing outside of his house, allegedly. Now, he does say that he doesn't know why it took him three years to realize that he saw him on that exact day. You wouldn't three years later go, you know, that February 22nd, three years ago, I think I did see him that day. You'd know a day later. And then afterwards you go, I don't remember if it was Tuesday or Wednesday when I saw him in the morning. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:48:57 So I think this is his friends are trying to clear his name because he's doing their best. They're doing their best. He probably was involved in the shooting of this fucking guy already if he didn't he at least was involved in killings and shootings of other people right and that sort of thing doesn't seem like a great dude he's not a great dude and he also uh he also had access to a volkswagen golf that was used in the thing but i guess there's a lot of those over there. Of course. So that's, you know, whatever. So it's one of those things. They end up keeping it open for Suliev.
Starting point is 01:49:29 They end up keeping his part of the case open. And they keep it open all the way up until June 27, 2016, when he dies. So Ammar dies. He's asked to be taken to his childhood home in Annapaapa where he passes away at three o'clock in the morning. Brutal. Uh, he dies. M one global, the company he worked the most for tweeted quote in memory of a Marsulia of a true warrior who never backed down, which is true.
Starting point is 01:49:54 He wouldn't back down from shit except for none of the politicians. Not even the shit pipe guy. Uh, now, I mean, Jesus Christ, this guy fucking grew up in a shit environment. He got out of it all the way to go to the UFC. That's not too bad. He fought one of the better UFC fighters. He probably made some money. A couple of them. Made a name for himself.
Starting point is 01:50:12 You know, I mean, he did. Also, too, I mean, I feel bad for him in terms of he had stomach cancer. But then also, like, what about his family? And he's got a wife and a young child. And what about them? I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Amar Suliev.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Get out of here. He lives in Krasnodar also. He went to a school there. He went to Cuban State University. Wow. K-U-B-A-N State University. It's in southern Russiaussia there of course he has 172 facebook friends oh so i feel bad for him for that that's too bad well you know he's trying his
Starting point is 01:50:52 best and it's a picture of him and he's like leaning against a tree sitting there but he's looking like dead serious like i i am casual but i will still kill you you know like i still am russian you know casually kill you september 14 2016, after a whole day of jury deliberations, they find the rest of the gang guilty on all charges. Yes, sir. Zerunov even, and he is like freaking out because he's like a high ranking badass. Sure. I'm Putin's buddy and now he's going to prison here. That's Putin.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Oh, yeah. They lay it down in front of them. They fucking, this judge lays into them this volkoff is like you son of a bitches you've been operating for 14 years i mean a sir you sir may fuck off big time like he really russian style yeah it's not like british like i'm being polite and i meant to say you sir fuck off i think he said fuck off like five times in there and just in his in his deal here uh fuck offs may fuck off forever fucking off fuck you fuck off you go so uh october 12th 2016 uh zirinov is sentenced to 22 years in a maximum
Starting point is 01:51:55 security penal colony after being found guilty on all 59 counts of his indictment holy shit also other you don't want to be convicted of 59 anything in Russia. Fuck no, man. No thanks. No, and go into a Russian penal colony? That sounds terrible. The other members, Karanak, Eselon, and Palladian, were sentenced to 16 years each in prison. Tilgarev was sentenced to 15 years in prison.
Starting point is 01:52:21 And the two guys who ratted, who were convicted of murder, the Miro Shnik and Sapo Zivikunov, or whatever, Dimitri, were both sentenced to 13 and 16 years, respectively. So Amar's case never gets heard. Yeah. That's it. They did find one guy, Avenjni Alekstronovich. They found him not guilty on all charges and released him from custody. So out of all that, the whole gang, and they're like, not him, though.
Starting point is 01:52:50 We like him. Imagine that guilty, guilty. He's like, fuck. Guilty, guilty. Not guilty. He's like, huh? Who? Me?
Starting point is 01:52:56 Me? Or them. Which one? He goes to high five the guy next to him. He just gets a mean Russian look. And he's like, I'm sorry. Very, very sorry. Did you guys hear that? me all of you not me
Starting point is 01:53:09 not me all of you not me what a wonderful day one of his friends and they're all trying to clear his name afterwards a bunch of his friends are coming out people that train with him saying no no there's no way wasn't him they blame racist undertones in Russia and jealousy.
Starting point is 01:53:25 They say jealousy is rampant and that sort of thing. And that's why it is. Everybody called him a hairy Russian. That's why he was in there. Also in gangs. He says, quote, Basiki Geronava says, it's a teammate of his, says, quote, there is simply no way that he is capable of this. Sometimes popularity leads to bad things. People become jealous and try and hurt them.
Starting point is 01:53:49 He was framed. Yeah. So that's a very Russian statement. Also, framings. And like this is so this is a Russian fucking episode. Can't get enough of Omar Suleyev. You can go on Amazon dot com and you can buy the 2003 documentary Rights of Passage, which is a big chunk about him, and see his bare-knuckle tournament. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:54:09 $9.99 is a two-disc set you get out of that. That, my friends, is Amar Suliev, a crazy-ass Russian. And that brings us to something exciting. Oh, my favorite part of the year. That brings us to the year two, 2017 Scummy Awards! Yay! Yay!
Starting point is 01:54:41 Okay, the Scummies. Fantastic. Guys, there's the Oscars, there's the Golden Globes, there's all. Guys, there's the Oscars. There's the Golden Globes. There's all sorts of them. There's a Nobel Prize. There's all these fucking, for physics, some shit. None of them, none, match the honor, the prestige, the pageantry of the scummies. Oh, everyone's got their dresses on.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Look at her. She's looking beautiful. It's like the NFL's Man of the Year Award. It is. This is a very fancy black tie affair. We're all here. Everybody's in place. Lots of dicks out.
Starting point is 01:55:09 These are judged by a panel, a distinguished panel of myself and my dogs Frankie and Benny at 3 o'clock in the morning. I go, what do you think, Frankie? And she goes, roo-roo-roo. And I go, okay, good. This is a distinguished panel of some of the most important people in the sports and entertainment worlds have been in this. So let's do it. 2017 Scummy Awards, award number one.
Starting point is 01:55:33 The first two, there's no competition for them. They're just, they're given, they're giveouts. Like People's Choice Awards. Exactly. This is like the people, exactly. This is the But Not Nearly As Bad As Awards. Exactly. This is like the people. Exactly. This is the but not nearly as bad as award. This is the person who I feel the most bad for, for sharing a very specific name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Because if your name's like, you know, Jack whatever or something, it's who cares. Right. John Riccardi, that guy was like, there's a bunch of those. This is Lawrence Phillips, whatever. Whatever. Right. But not if your name is Ike Ibeabuchi. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Ike Ibeabuchi, a contributor to the Daily Trust in San Jose, California, and the most specific name of anybody to be confused with. You win an award. You win an award. If you look you up, you do not find you. You find a crazy brain-damaged boxer. So, yes. Now, next, the second annual Golden Gilretha Award. Oh, fantastic.
Starting point is 01:56:29 The Golden Gilretha Award is for a woman in the life of a criminal athlete that takes care of them, that believes in them, that sticks up for them and defends them. Not like a silver-haired middle-aged white man in a different way. Because they don't benefit as well as those guys do. Their character is what they're defending. They're defending their very innocence, not just their right to play ball. And it only could go to one person this year. That is Shanna Mayfield. Shanna, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Shanna Mayfield, Jeremy Mayfield's wife. I don't know. We don't know her. She seems like a decent person or whatever. But she has stuck up for Jeremy through logic and science. Everything. And just logic, science, public opinion, just basic human intelligence.
Starting point is 01:57:14 She just gives a shit. We do an episode about him failing meth tests, being caught with meth on him, all of these things. She tweets at us, he's never done meth ever. You guys are liars. We love you. Golden Gil never done meth ever. You guys are liars. That's your- We love you. Golden Gilretha all around.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Congratulations. Congratulations, Shannon Mayfield. Golden Gilretha. On your diamond studded Daisy Dukes. Enjoy it. Blue eyed meth devil. Next is one of my favorites, the Skip Bayless Award. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:57:42 For biggest fucking liar on the planet. Or in crime and sports world anyway because he just lies and lies and lies because who fucking cares i'm just here to argue with a black guy that'll get me ratings who is it horse shit skip balis award the contestants for this one this is now we're getting into competition all right contestant number one roscoe tanner oh yeah roscoe tanner full of shit. Tennis player, schemer, scammer, you know, gallivanting around. Byron McLaughlin. That was a good one. Another rich kid, full of shit, schemer, scammer, sneaker.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Complete, an absolute, just a lying, conning, put a suit on and con you out of your life savings piece of garbage. And number three, Mickey Dora. The surfing con man. Mickey was so good, though. Who could, like, he'd go into people's houses and empty their refrigerators and just take all the food with a tuxedo on. He had a shitty car out front that he had a white tuxedo
Starting point is 01:58:35 stuffed in the back. And he'd go into other ones. So Mickey Dora, the winner of this one. Look at the drum roll. Winner, Mickey Dora. All right. Mickey Dora. I'm going to give it to Mickey Dora.
Starting point is 01:58:46 He lied with the most style. He's like Ric Flair on a surfboard, this fucking guy. I love him. With the schwoz to get painted on the front. Except for all the racist stuff. Except for the racist stuff, he's Ric Flair on a surfboard, which you can't get much cooler than Ric Flair on a surfboard. It's true. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:00 But no, the racist stuff, that's not great here. Now, this here is the top silver-haired middle-aged white man award. Wonderful. This is the top one of the year. This is the most helpful, the most detrimental to society, the most helpful to athletes who commit crimes. This award here, it's very prestigious. Yes, it is. Very prestigious.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Number one in this, Bob Arum. Yes. Bob Arum, as we might remember from just recently the Edwin Valero episode, who one moment when Valero was not in trouble and arrested, saying he's great, he's going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. And then five minutes later, after he does get in trouble, saying, I never liked him to begin with, he's no good son of a bitch. That's silver right there, baby. Number two, Billy Martin. Billy Martin, as you might know him, is an ex-Yankee manager. He managed several other teams, including the Detroit Tigers, where he went to prison and found a fucking guy who could sort of play center field in prison, used his political
Starting point is 02:00:02 connections to get the guy released from actual prison for armed robbery, mind you. He was an armed robber. He didn't get caught with a little weed in his pocket. He was a fucking armed robber to get him out to play professional baseball. That's as silver as it gets. That's silver. And number three, Shana Mayfield.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Again, I know she's not a man, but that's silver, baby. Oh, God, do I love her. Taken to Twitter. That's silver right there. The winner of this one, if we can get a drumroll, winner. It's a tie. Three-way tie. First ever.
Starting point is 02:00:36 I can't decide between Bob Arum just using people and their brain damage or Shana Mayfield blindly sticking up for Matt Maddox or Billy Martin literally pulling a man from prison and prison and putting him in left you all get an envelope with a tuft of gray hair that's it that's what you get congratulations guys congratulations uh next we have dumbest scumbag oh uh this is one uh this is for pure intelligence you know this is for the guy who i think is uh who i would least like to let do my taxes, basically. This guy here, the dumbest scumbag award. Very prestigious. Dumbest first candidate goes to Greg Toe Nash, who couldn't read or didn't really have any interest in it.
Starting point is 02:01:14 He's pretty dumb. That's pretty dumb. Second is Barrett Robbins. When you attack cops and grab their guns, they'll fucking shoot you. And they did. Heads up. And they did. And when you just sock old ladies in hotel lobbies, you'll fucking shoot you. Just a heads up. And they did. And when you just sock old ladies in hotel lobbies, you'll get arrested for that, you
Starting point is 02:01:29 dumb fuck. You don't even try to hide it. Number three is James Kirkland. James Kirkland. Who is not allowed to buy guns because he's a felon, but goes in a gun show, buys a gun, comes out, then goes, maybe I'll go back in with the gun, and they search him and find the fucking gun and he gets arrested. I just came back to return it, you guys.
Starting point is 02:01:47 I knew it was a mistake, see? That's as dumb as you get. Winner of this one, little drumroll, winner. We're going to go Barrett Robbins wins this one. Barrett Robbins. That's pretty dumb. Yes, Tone Ash was illiterate and all that kind of thing. That's not his fault.
Starting point is 02:02:00 But the police never shot him in the chest for purely his own actions, being a complete fucking moron. So Barrett Robbins, hands down, you're going to take this. Next one, I love this category. Longest fall from grace. Oh. This is. I already know who it is. It's got to be.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Where was grace? Number one here is Kelly Lane. Kelly Lane, we remember the Australian water polo player who almost went to the Olympics, came from a very prestigious family, did all this shit and ended up killing lots of babies and dumping them off and ending up in an Australian prison. And rather than being the golden girl, as she was known, she was then known as the, I don't know, the shit smeared girl. I don't know. The shit something. Shit girl she turned into. That's a pretty big fall from grace.
Starting point is 02:02:46 Number two, Bernard King. Yeah. Bernard King went from a beloved member of a major. He's a New York Knick guy and a huge guy in college and all this respect to falling asleep in a Coke bin. Falling asleep outside of a crack house in his brand new Corvette in the middle of Bed-Stuy or Brownsville. Not great at all.
Starting point is 02:03:06 And finally, Riddick Bowe. Okay. Riddick Bowe goes from being the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. Of everything. All the belts. He's on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air punching Will Smith and knocking him out. Literally having $100 million. He went from that to truck driving and trolling for fucking betting sites.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Worse. Trying to get business. And now he has a GoFundMe to pay his rent. Oh, and now he has a GoFundMe to pay his rent. Guys, do we even have to say it? No, we don't. Winner, Riddick Bowe, guys. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:03:39 He might be the most accomplished of all the people we've covered. And he ended up in a very lowly place. That's so depressing. Go find me. We have a new category for this year. This is the Cracked Egg Award for most brain damage in a criminal athlete here. This one, contestant number one is Rudy Pochek. Rudy couldn't even remember where he parked and shit.
Starting point is 02:04:01 He'd drive and they'd be like, you're not allowed to drive. He'd be like, I didn't drive. They'd be like, you're holding your car keys. Your car's still behind the wheel. Your foot's on the brake. Your brake lights are lit up. Just put it in park. Sir, can you take off your seatbelt and get out of the car? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Number two, Ike Ibeabuchi for believing there was demons in the air conditioning and grabbing a giant steak knife and threatening to attack people while at a meeting with a major network executive. That's quite brain damaged. Lots of brain damage there. And finally, via Cheslov Dotson, it was never brought up that he had brain damage, but if
Starting point is 02:04:36 you've watched him at all, he's got to have fucking something. If it wasn't damaged by the sport, he had damage well before that from something else. For sure. Lack of oxygen as a child. I don't know. Let's do a drum roll. The winner here, second time with this name winning tonight, Ike Ibeabuchi, everybody. So we have the guy who worked for San Jose, whatever, and the real Ike Ibeabuchi wins the most bat shit, most brain death.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Cracked egg. The cracked egg award. It's the award. It's an brain death. Cracked egg. Cracked egg award. You get the award. It's an egg with a crack in it. Now, Pochek almost took that one because his brain damage might be more severe, but it doesn't cause him to lash out in quite the same way. A steak knife. As Ike.
Starting point is 02:05:16 To a fucking executive. You bet your ass. Next up here, most likely to have a second crime in sports episode. Oh, terrific. That have a second Crime and Sports episode. Oh, terrific. That's a good one. First of all, contestant number one, Ben Cousins. This guy has it all. Denial, hubris, meth up his ass.
Starting point is 02:05:33 He's a winner, pure and simple. You can't beat him. Charles Crazy Horse Bennett. That's a solid one. He's always making crazy speeches from the woods asking for money. He's also got to go fund me. He's a crazy fucking guy. His name's Crazy Horse and he lives up to it.
Starting point is 02:05:48 And he hates that nickname now. Oh, yeah, he does. Boy, does he hate it. If you call him that on Twitter, he will rail on you. Sorry, you have a tattoo of it across your chest, dummy. You picked it, dickhead. He fucking tattooed it on his chest. That's your name, dickhead.
Starting point is 02:06:01 And finally, Elijah Dukes. That's a good one, too. Pure volume of police interaction. I don't think he's going to. I feel like he's lagged for a couple of years. He's going to come back strong. I feel like he's going to come back. He's going to get off those meds.
Starting point is 02:06:12 He's going to get right back into the fray, I think. But the winner here, clear cut winner from the panel, Ben Cousins. Absolutely. Ben Cousins. The white man holding the black guys down yet again. Again. Who knows what he's going to hide in his ass next? It could be anything, folks.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Let's find out. That lunatic is coming back strong, too. Could be a kid. Yeah, it's true. We know. It's going to be a fun adventure. Next category. Person you'd least want to date your daughter award.
Starting point is 02:06:38 Oh, Jesus. Okay. Least? This could go for anybody, really. This could go for anybody, but we're going to narrow it down. Number one, John Riccardi. John Riccardi, who the one positive is you could create a Dave Navarro if you kill his mom. That's true.
Starting point is 02:06:52 So we did get a rock star out of it, so that's one thing. Number two, Hardbody Harrison. That's, yes. The wrestler, Hardbody Harrison. Stable of hoes. Bad man. Stable of women forcing them into prostitution. Bad, bad man.
Starting point is 02:07:07 She'd be a prostitute, but at least she's an alive prostitute. Unlike if she went out with Randall Woodfield, the I-5 killer, who she would be horribly raped in every orifice and cut into pieces and possibly left in the living room. Disposed of in a horrible way. In a horrible way and set up for the police. A horrible thing. Drum roll here. It's Randall Woodfield. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:07:30 It's Randall Woodfield. He's definitely going to kill you and not in a polite way. And he's got a nickname. Yeah, it's not good. At least Riccardi wasn't nearly as brutal a crime as this one. And the nickname that Crazy Horse had, that was one bestowed upon him for positive. This is one the police gave him. That's not a good name.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Exactly. That's a different one. That's the worst nickname to get. Next one is the please turn it around reward. Where you're like, you root for the guy and you want him to turn it around and they just never fucking do it. You fucking can't do it. Number one, Ron LaFleur.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Billy Martin pulled him out of prison to be a, and he was like a funny, cool, like 70s kind of black guy. Like, you know. Just so it happened. Yeah, he'd go to Estevez Jones' house for parties. You know what I'm saying? All right. Number two, Rudy Pochek. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:14 I just felt bad for the fucking guy. He took so many blows to the head. They told him he was fine. He said, is this okay to get hit in the head like that? They're like, hey, you're fucking great. Get out there. And now they're like, oh, I guess you're arrested. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Like, yeah, I feel bad for him. And finally, Greg Toe Nash, who came from such nothing. Sweet Pete. That you were so happy for him. You're like, no, don't do that. Come on. Winner here, Ron LaFleur for me. Ron LaFleur.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I want to see Ron LaFleur turning around because he's entertaining. I was rooting on Toe for that one. Oh, yeah, that's a close one. The panel really had a on toe for that one. Oh, yeah, that's a close one. The panel really had a hard time with that one. It was a last. I was handed the card at the last moment on that one. They were debating it still.
Starting point is 02:08:53 The panel, very, very picky. I need a name. I got to announce something. Here we go, LaFleur. Now, two more left, and one more, and then the big one, scumbag of the year. Oh, terrific. Most likely to find and kill me. Or you. Or probably me for putting this together. Most likely.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Yeah. Number one, Ike Ibeabuchi. Yes, that's true. Because he's crazy and he lives in Phoenix. And he won't know what he's doing. And he won't know what he's doing and he'll kill me. And he's huge. He might just kill me randomly, not for doing this. He might not have any idea.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Just run a red light and not realize he was behind the wheel. Yeah, that's right. Number two, Cody East. He's out. He's in the Southwest. And fucking crazy. And he is crazy and scary and huge. So he would kill me if he found me.
Starting point is 02:09:34 I am pretty positive of it. Number three, Shana Mayfield. Shana Mayfield, who I believe wants us to talk to her just so she can then get information gleaned from us where she can hunt us down and murder us. The winner on this one, Shana Mayfield. I'm sorry. I'm more scared of her than anyone. I'm more scared of a woman who's in that much denial than I am of anybody on Earth. She could kill me and convince herself she didn't kill me.
Starting point is 02:10:01 That's right. She could kill me and then be like, I didn't fucking kill that guy. I don't know what you're talking about. With my corpse at her feet and my blood on her hands. That much denial. All the science in the world. Not me. Yup.
Starting point is 02:10:15 I'm telling you right now, man. Now, the last but not least of all. These are fun, aren't they? This is so much fun. I fucking love the scummies, man. The most pageantry. The most prestige. Scumbag of the year.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Fantastic. Scumbag of the year. This is the one. And this is the one here. It's not just about what you did, but how you did it. And why. A complete disregard for decency and general human nature. Just being awful and you didn't have to. Just a horrible person.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Let's get the contestants right now. Contestant number one, the I-5 killer, the Oregon something. Right. The Oregon something. The ex-Green Bay Packer. The ex-Green Bay Packer for five seconds. Spent way more time killing than he ever did playing football. Randall Woodfield, number one.
Starting point is 02:11:02 Number two for good lord, first doing two sexual assaults in the 80s on underaged girls, then seeking out, finding his long-lost 15-year-old daughter, recruiting her to his house, molesting her, and having sex
Starting point is 02:11:19 with her repeatedly for 10 fucking years. Rock and roll Buck Zumhoff from wrestling. What a vile human being. Vile, awful person. And number three, meth up his ass himself. Ben Cousins for being just the most aplomb he got. He had a certain style.
Starting point is 02:11:38 He was like Val Kilmer in Tombstone, just like a southern gentleman with some panache. You know what I mean? In his crimes. And then just owning it. Is that a tissue up your ass? Yes, it is, but not just a tissue. Full of meth.
Starting point is 02:11:52 Four grams. Let's see who wins scumbag of the year. This is a big one. Everybody's waiting for it. People are in prison on bated breath. There are people with vets on this thing. Oh, you know it, man. It is.
Starting point is 02:12:03 It can only be one person. Rock and roll. For sure. You don't recruit your fucking daughter to then come on to her and rape her and repeatedly keep her from leaving, too. She wanted to get married. She wanted to leave. Imprisoned her.
Starting point is 02:12:17 Had sex with her to the point where she never healed from injuries. This guy constantly wanted to fuck his daughter five times a day. This was after a repeated history of being in prison for other sexual assaults of underage girls. And if you ever saw him, being basically the creepiest, scummiest looking motherfucker ever to walk the face of the earth.
Starting point is 02:12:37 And on top of that, being a shit wrestler with a terrible fucking gimmick and a dumb jumpsuit and a stupid boombox and he had awful matches. Rock and roll. Buck Zoomhoff, you piece of shit. Scum bag of the year. Congratulations.
Starting point is 02:12:51 All right. And that, everybody, is the 2017 Scummy Awards. We hope you enjoyed those. I've got to get this tie off. Good Christ. I know. I've been in this tuxedo all day waiting for this. So get through this real quick here since we were going a little long on all of that.
Starting point is 02:13:07 If you like that, please get on iTunes. Give us five stars. We have a lot of fun here. Tell us your following instructions, following directions. Also, you can go to patreon.com slash crimeinsports to make a donation or go over to PayPal and use our email address, crimeinsports at gmail.com to make a one-time donation. You can go to crimeandsports.threadless.com for all of your crime and sports and small town murder needs.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Fantastic. Don't forget Boston, February the 18th, 4 o'clock is crime and sports, 1 o'clock is small town murder. The 7 o'clock small town murder is sold out if you see that on the site. March 25th, stand Up Live in Phoenix. Small Town Murder will be there. That's our hometown. So get your tickets now.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Fill it up and let's wreck that thing. We're going to have fun. We're not going to be tired from flying. I live 10 minutes from there. Let's do this shit. That's going to be a lot of fun like that. If you want to follow the show on social media, you can do that. Instagram and Twitter at Crime and Sports.
Starting point is 02:14:04 Crime and Sports at gmail.com and facebook.com slash crimeandsports. Those are them. That out of the way, let's get to the important part. The people that we love in this entire thing, man. The people that keep us going. The people who make this show possible, who've made 100 episodes possible
Starting point is 02:14:20 and for whom all the scum flows. Jimmy, hit us with that list. Thank you guys so much for giving a shit about us and actually pushing this thing along. I really appreciate it. Jess Landgren in Australia and Chrissy Ann Castaldi continue to be the most amazing people. You guys are the best.
Starting point is 02:14:35 They're so sweet to us. Thank you. Every week sending something that helps us tremendously. The executive producers of the show. Thank you both so, so much. Dana Grayson sent another donation as well. Thanks, Dana. I appreciate you, brother.
Starting point is 02:14:49 Thanks, Dana. James Cook, Yuwa Tarowski, Rob Medersky. Mariah Min here in The Dutch Girl. Oh, she's awesome. I hate calling her The Dutch Girl. The Dutch Girl. That's not what she is. That's her identity now, though.
Starting point is 02:15:00 Yeah. I don't think she minds that. People just want an identity. Thank you, Mariah. I appreciate you. Kristen S. Hagee. H-A-G-G-E. Double G's always throw me when there's just an E on the end.
Starting point is 02:15:12 What is that? Yeah. Ag or Hagee? I'm not sure. Regina Egan. I believe she's one of the Egan sisters. They're terrific ladies. I think they're both coming to Boston, by the way.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Cool. Tyler Sheets. Carol Braun donated through Patreon and went over to Boston, by the way. Cool. Tyler Sheets. Carol Braun donated through Patreon and went over to Paint House. That's so amazing. Thank you so much, Carol. Thank you, guys. Laura Christensen, the Ron Santos podcast. It's a Cubs podcast.
Starting point is 02:15:35 I think it's Wazurski is the one that I'm ruining his last name, of course. But he hosts it. Go listen to it, the Ron Santos podcast. It's terrific. Ron Santos. It might be San Rantos. San Rantos. to it, the Ron Santos podcast. It's terrific. Ron Santo. It might be San Rantos. San Rantos. Ron Santos, the actual player.
Starting point is 02:15:50 I meant with an apostrophe S. Oh, like his podcast. Right. I don't know what it's about. I thought you meant he was a Mexican guy named Ron Santos. Being honest, I haven't listened to it. I probably should. It might be the San Rantos.
Starting point is 02:16:02 You sure it's not a Hispanic guy named Ron Santos? I think it's San Ranto. That's what it is. Oh, okay. San Rantoos. You sure it's not a Hispanic guy named Ron Santos? I think it's San Ranto. That's what it is. Oh, okay. San Ranto podcast. Gotcha. All right. See, I'm an asshole.
Starting point is 02:16:10 There you go. That's what it is. That makes sense. The San Ranto. That's what it is. All right. It's a Cubs podcast, and he loves the Cubs. He lives in Chicago.
Starting point is 02:16:18 So go listen to that. No, what is that? Bully? I didn't write Bully Arrieta, did I? Is that Rully? What did I do? That's not nice. It's your handwriting. I'm ruining it. I didn't write Bully Arrieta, did I? Is that Rolly? What did I do? That's not nice. It's your handwriting.
Starting point is 02:16:27 I'm ruining it. I think it says Bully Arrieta. Jimmy acts like somebody broke into his house and wrote names down in a strange hand. They're like, where are these dickheads? Best of luck. Gina Testino, Bella Chadwell, Megan Strapik. That's the- She's cool, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:41 She's fantastic. Boston girl. Thank you. Thank you, Megan. Stephen Mace, Tyler Jorgen, Stacey Huffaker. She constantly sends- Yeah, thank you. A nice little donation. Yeah, we appreciate that. Stacey, you're fantastic. Boston girl. Thank you, Megan. Stephen Mace, Tyler Jorgen, Stacey Huffaker. She constantly sends a nice little donation. Yeah, we appreciate that. Stacey, you're fantastic.
Starting point is 02:16:49 Thank you, Stacey. Rachel Dooley, Kasten Johnson. I think it's Kasten Johnson. I'm pretty sure it's Kasten. Kasten, I think so. Kasten Johnson. He's in, I think, Texas. I can't ever fucking remember.
Starting point is 02:16:58 There's so many, it's hard to keep it all. It's hard. Thank you, guys. Sherry Bullock. Kat, it's K-A-R-T. She's in another country also. Gosh, she's cool as shit. She's terrific. Thank you, Kat.ry Bullock. Kat. Kat. It's K-A-R-T. She's in another country also. And I don't know. She's cool as shit.
Starting point is 02:17:07 She's terrific. Thank you, Kat. Iceland? Yeah, I think that's it. Iceland or the Netherlands. I can't remember now. It's somewhere fucking cold. I know that.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Somewhere cold. Yeah. Yeah. She's cool as shit, though. Thank you. Talena Jensen. Kevin McDonald. Rachel Smith.
Starting point is 02:17:20 There are two Rachel Smiths. I don't know if they're the same or if they're different. Just common name. Rachel and Smith could be. Just mistaken identity. So easy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they're the same or if they're different. Just common name. Rachel and Smith could be so easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel bad for you, Rachel, but not as bad as this. Exactly. A crime and sports reference.
Starting point is 02:17:32 James Feeder or Felder? Shit. I think it's Felder. James, you're a hell of a dude. We love you. I have shit penmanship. Melissa Hoover. David Moe or Mao?
Starting point is 02:17:43 M-O-W. It could be either. Jin Jai Lao. Fuck. Jin Jai Leo or Lao. It's probably Leo, right? L-E-O-W. It's an Asian name.
Starting point is 02:17:54 I'm not going to get it right. I'm going to ruin the whole fucking thing. Yeah, you're going to destroy it. Jin, you're terrific. We're not ready for that. You're having a hard time with American names. Let's not get into Asian culture. Lynn Luffman.
Starting point is 02:18:04 Oh, cool. Lynn Luffman. That's right. Corey Browks. That's Rachel Smith. There's not going to be Asian culture. Lynn Luffman. Oh, cool. Lynn Luffman. That's right. Corey Browks. That's Rachel Smith. There's the other one. So if there's two of you, thank you both. Thank you both.
Starting point is 02:18:10 If there's only one of you, thank you twice. Thank you twice. Right. Ashley Fleming. Emmy DeMont Guthier. She, I think, is in another country also. Canada. I got it.
Starting point is 02:18:19 Yes. Thank you, Emmy. I appreciate it. That was a nice little donation from Canada. Dana Grayson. Of course, I already said that. Elizabeth Armour. Her last name is spelled like Under Armour. Cool. Thank you, Elizabeth. I appreciate it. That was a nice little donation from Canada. Dana Grayson, of course, I already said that. Elizabeth Armour.
Starting point is 02:18:27 Her last name is spelled like Under Armour. Thank you, Elizabeth. Ashley McNeely. Thomas William. And Nitch. Nitch. I think that's Nitch. It might be Witch.
Starting point is 02:18:36 And Witch. That's awesome, actually. I hope it's And Witch. Like a sandwich? Yeah. And Nitch, I think. Morgan St. Clair. Jonathan Elton.
Starting point is 02:18:44 Justin Rine. He snapped a screenshot of his donation on Patreon to me on Snapchat. That was awesome. Thanks, Justin. I appreciate it. That was a nice one, too. That's so cool. Katie Garland Noble, Rachel War, or Rochelle War. I think it's Rachel War.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Jennifer Shirley, Desiree Kissling, Rachel Kane, Denise Whitehouse. That's a kick-ass name. Julie Hinton, Frank Liggins or Ligons. Jessica Britton or Brittain. I think it's Britton. It's two Ts, but it's Britton. Anyway, it's probably Brittain. Yeah, I'm thinking it is.
Starting point is 02:19:13 I'm second-guessing. Brittain. Forcing her name to be something it's not. Clinton Grout. Kristen Rose. Natasha Kale. Gisa Shantz. Brant Taylor.
Starting point is 02:19:23 He's donated last week through PayPal and then signed up for Patreon. Thank you, Brant. Thank you. Janice Hill, Kynie Fryner. Kynie Fryer? Fryer. There's no – her name makes you – You wanted to put another N in there.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Yeah, Kynie Fryner. It makes you want to say Fryner. Whatever. Kynie Fryer. Shelly Trolean. Trolean. Trolean. That's right.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Rick Freeman. Joseph – no, Troy Joseph Graham. Troy. And then Mahmoud Rahman. Thank you, Mahmoud. He donated a few weeks in a row and then came back for Patreon. Appreciate you. Jenny Nichols.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Julie Smallman. Or Smallman. Tay Smith. Kathleen Thill. She's terrific, by the way. She is here locally in Arizona. How cool. She's going to come to our shows.
Starting point is 02:20:01 I think that was true. I think I got that right. Hopefully. She may be somewhere else and coming to another show somewhere else I live in Michigan right she sent us gifts and oh thank you and she signed up for snapchat because I said I was on snapchat that's cool shit she said I've
Starting point is 02:20:13 forced a 40 year old woman whatever to get on snapchat nothing further than that I forced a 40 year old woman to get on snapchat don't force women of any age to do anything how's that Brie Ryan in Montana they got the tattoo she signed up for patreon First to 40-year-old woman to get on Snapchat. Don't force women of any age to do anything. How's that? Brie Ryan in Montana that got the tattoo. Hey, Brie.
Starting point is 02:20:28 What's up? Thank you, Brie. She's so cool. Thank you for everything. Madeline, Melissa Freeman, and Kelly May. And then I just got a Twitter notification that somebody else just got another tattoo, and it says yay down the side of her hand. That's cool as shit. So many A's, by the way.
Starting point is 02:20:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's how we've put it on a T-shirt. Thank you all so much for giving a shit about this. Not just giving a shit, but actually giving a shit. You guys are doing it. So thank you so much for helping us. And listening is huge, of course. But this part is just beyond.
Starting point is 02:20:58 We really do appreciate it. You guys are amazing. Thank every single one of you. Thank every one of you bastard, crazy sons of bitches for that. Honestly, like we've said, 100 episodes couldn't have been done without you guys. It's true. We really couldn't. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Even back when it was just a little bit like to cover index cards and stuff, like it was needed. And thank you guys so much for that. We've come a long way. And we appreciate you guys. You guys are awesome. And we really do. Just know that we appreciate everything you do for us. Every tweet about us, every time you tell a friend, every time you give us a dollar,
Starting point is 02:21:28 every time you put an iTunes review in, it makes us so happy. And it makes it worth keep going and going and going. And Jimmy, what if one of these great people wanted to get a hold of you, a fellow like yourself? I appreciate you guys playing along and being a part of this. Thank you so, so much. And you can find me at JimmyPIsFunny, or you can try and copy and paste and spell my – just do that. Copy and paste.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Don't try to spell my last name. Just show description, copy, paste, do all of that right there. And besides that, guys, this has been a fun 100 episodes. And I guarantee we'll be here for 100 more because we have contracts. We have to. So we have at least 52 more, and then we'll be here for 100 more because we have contracts. We have to. So we have at least 52 more. And then we'll definitely be back after that because I found tons of scumbags. Yes.
Starting point is 02:22:11 We need to share them with you. Fantastic. See you next year for not only the show, but also the 2018 Scummy Awards will be coming next year. There. With all of that said. Happy New Year. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 02:22:24 Live from the Crime and Sports studios. We will see you next week. Bye. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.

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