Crime in Sports - #108 - The Crown Prince Of Violence - The Excitableness of Ryan Gracie

Episode Date: March 6, 2018

This week, we look down the barrel of a lunatic, with a man who never saw a street fight that he could resist being a part of. He loved ladies, booze, drugs, violence, and an overall instabil...ity of life, that lead him down a familiar, but even crazier path. His family was legendary, and was essential to bringing MMA to worldwide prominence... Also, for putting out many a wild person into the world. But out of all the wildness, running through a family of fighters, our guy was the wackiest! Enjoy!!Challenge everyone you see to a street fight, bite someone's ear off, and carjack an elderly man with a butcher knife with Ryan Gracie!!Check us out, every Tuesday.We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at...patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGet all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comFor Tickets To Upcoming Live Shows...Go to shutupandgivememurder.com/live for tickets to all live shows!!!Los AngelesSan DiegoSacramentoSan FranciscoPortlandSeattleChicagoPhiladelphiaNew YorkNashvilleContact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/crimeinsports   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:26 What the fuck? It's us talking like we do here, except about a murder that happened in a small town. I don't know what you could—I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to this and not that. Right. Or vice versa. It's like if you like one, you're going to like the other. Right. They're not real different.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's just different subjects with the same shit. So do that. Also listen to P.S. I Hate This Movie. There you go. Where me and my wife Sarah Hunt make fun of bad romantic comedies. And I rant and rave and get very, very angry at things that, I don't know, normal people wouldn't be quite as angry at. But I have to sit through this shit. So do that.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Check that out. But besides all that shit, Jimmy, do you mind all of that shit? We got a wild story. Great. It's a wild, crazy, we're back into the brain damage sports. Those are always the most fun when we have brain damage sports. There's good, we mix brain damage and cocaine. It's a wonderful, alcohol, brain damage and cocaine are one of the better cocktails for a crime and sports episode.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Cacophony, right. Is that the word? Cacophony? I think it is. Yeah, and it makes for some of our better episodes because most of the time people do things that you kind of expect or that you're like, oh, well, he needed money so he stole that. These guys, when you mix cocaine, alcohol, and brain damage, things could be going great. They could be at their kid's birthday party and they're going to put Chuck E. Cheese in a reverse choke thing and put him down for no reason. You're like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:04:44 What did the mouse do to you, dude? That's the type of shit we get out of these guys. Because there's no beer being served. That's the type of shit we get out of these guys. He's at a child's birthday party. Everything's going fine. He just lost a game of skeeball. He was a little bit upset. Chuck E. Cheese came over. The music started and out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:04:59 Chuck E. Cheese is unconscious on the floor. Chuck E. Cheese is now shitting skeeballs for the next three weeks. Yeah, that's what happens. So that's why you got to love these sports here and this type of thing. And it's MMA, guys. It's MMA. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So, yeah, well, yeah, MMA. We've had boxing. You knew it wasn't going to be boxing. That was a couple episodes ago. So it's going to be MMA, not football. The bigger lunatics tend to come from this sport. A lot of them, yes. Chopping somebody's heart out of their chest
Starting point is 00:05:25 while they're still alive. That was a good one. That's MMA. That was MMA. Russian Hitman, that was MMA. Dotsik. Dotsik is just being Dotsik. Dotsik being Dotsik.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That's MMA. The MMA guys are very, very interesting. This whole family is just a complete fucking... As far as where they come from, it's the Gracie family, first of all. Oh, great. We all know of them. Even if you don't know MMA, which I'm not a big MMA guy, I know the Gracies and who
Starting point is 00:05:51 they are. They're kind of the... They tend to have invented what is now UFC. Yeah. They kind of... They mainstream jujitsu, basically, is the best way to put it. That's the words I'm looking for, yeah. They invented sort of, but they made it into a marketable thing.
Starting point is 00:06:03 They made it so that a welder now knows about it and drinks beer on the weekend and then probably hits his girlfriend after. Exactly. We're talking a family of like 20 crazy fighters, and this one's the craziest. So we're going to dive right into the deep end here. We could probably have 20 episodes about all these fucking people. We could probably do like four episodes on this family, but I kind of condensed. We've got to space them. I rolled everything into this one.
Starting point is 00:06:28 We're going to go fuck it all out with the Gracies and be done with these assholes. One time. Moving forward. Get the hell out of here. Great. So we will not be revisiting the Gracies because we're going to talk about all of their fuckery.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And there's a lot of it, man. It starts right in the beginning. Let's talk about our guy of the hour here, Ryan Gracie, our man of the hour. Ryan Gracie, he's born August 13th, 1974. So he's a younger guy. Hollywood Henderson was already on a ton
Starting point is 00:06:56 of coke by now. He's already freebasing with a hero of comedy by now. He's already getting ready to hang out with Marvin Gaye and Bang Pointer Sisters. This guy is coming in late to the party. He's about 5' comedy by now. He's already getting ready to hang out with Marvin Gaye and Bang Pointer Sisters. So this guy is coming in late to the party. He's about 5'9", 185 when he's full grown. He's a middleweight.
Starting point is 00:07:17 The whole Gracie family starts with George Gracie, who was a Scotsman, actually. Really? Yes. He was a Scotsman from Karen Hill Estate in Dumfreshire. All right. Dumfreshire. All right. He emigrated. Dumfreshire, I'm sure. Whatever. Dumfreshire. All right. Dumfreshire. All right. He immigrated. Dumfreshire, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Whatever. Dumfreshire, yeah. It's always a sure. It's not a shire, even though that's what it says. That's what it says. Your lazy local pronunciations do not make it correct. I'm sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:38 You can go through the south and through not only the south, everywhere else, and it happens everywhere. Just because you're making it easier to say because you have to say it all the time. Exactly. Tell somebody not to name it all the time. Exactly. Tell somebody not to name it this dumb shit then. How about don't name it something that's 14 letters long and has dumbfresh in it right before it. How about that? That might be good.
Starting point is 00:07:53 For Christ's sake. So George Gracie came to Brazil when he was 25 years old. That's where I see them all from. Brazil. Yeah, they're all from Brazil. In my head, I see them all being unbelievably complected. Like the most perfect complexion on earth is all from Brazil. It's amazing. from. In my head, I see them all being unbelievably complected. The most perfect complexion on Earth
Starting point is 00:08:07 is all from Brazil. It's amazing. They really mixed it together correctly down there. Whatever the balance is in that cocktail, they've really got it nice to where the color, you just hold it up to the light and you go, that's a nice color. That's a nice caramel you got there. That's very nice. Diversity of genetics.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Genetic diversity is good yeah it's good for everybody this shit yeah it's good tell me you wouldn't like to have that that complexion is fucking magical go to a tiny town yeah and watch a guy walking down the street who's literally looks like the parts don't belong in the places they are you know why because that's too small of a gene pool his cousins have fucked over and over again, not even knowing they're cousins just because they come from the same small area. So then you end up with that guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And then you got Brazil that's this huge place. People come from everywhere. People come from all over the place. And people sprout giant asses when that happens. See? This is good things. Good things happen. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Unbelievable. So yeah, he's a Scotsman, this George Gracie. He comes in 1826 when he's 25 years old. So they've been in Brazil for, I mean, Jesus, that's why you didn't think of Scotland. It's been 200 years since they've come there. So it makes sense here. So he came over from George here, came Pedro. From Pedro came Agasteo, who was the father of Carlos Gracie, who we'll talk about.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Castello, who is the father of Carlos Gracie, who we'll talk about. He's Robeson Gracie, who is the father of Ryan and Renzo and a couple other Gracies here. It's very confusing, all these Gracies. I'm going to try to narrow it down so we don't have a lot. We're not going to be saying like 14 different Gracie names in a row. And Royce is the most popular. And Royce also is his other, yeah, he's also involved in this. And also Helio Gracie was involved in this too. That sounds familiar.
Starting point is 00:09:44 He's one of the patriarchs of this whole thing here. They are jiu-jitsu fighters. Yes. Okay, now a little history of their role in jiu-jitsu out of the whole thing here. Gasteo Gracie, he's the grandson of George Gracie through Pedro. He married Cesarina Pessoa Vasconcelos. You're damn right. Vasconcelos.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So this is what I mean. You got Scottish people and they came over and they're banging somebody named Cesarina Vasconcelos. She sounds hot as fuck. That's what I mean. So you're going to get good diversity and you're going to get a nice skin tone and a good complexion out of this and a fat ass also in a good way. So this is what's going to happen here. It's very I mean. So you're going to get good genetic diversity and you're going to get a nice skin tone and a good complexion out of this and a fat ass also. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:26 In a good way. Yeah. So this is what's going to happen here. It's very good here. She was the daughter of a wealthy family. So anyway, they settled down. Castillo Gracie became a business partner of the American circus that was there, which is – you didn't expect the circus to come up here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 In 1916, there was Italian, there was Italian Argentinians. Argentina has like the second highest amount of Italian people in the world. Yeah, it's very odd. There's a shitload of Italian people in Argentina. You could confuse them pretty easily. Yeah, I think there's a similar language and similar whatever. But a lot of them came over like when they were coming here. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:03 They came there also. Okay. Italian immigrants came to North and South America, not just North America, and especially when we started. A lot of them came over when they were coming here. They came there also. Italian immigrants came to North and South America, not just North America, especially when we started. Some of them just didn't like New York snow is all. That's what happened. Well, that's probably it. And after a minute or two, the government here tended to put caps on Southern European people. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 They didn't like that so much. If you were Northern European, that was fine. But they're like, you're one shade darker than what we like here. You're a little too much wine for our taste. Yeah, I smell garlic wafting and I'm not letting you in. There are noodles in your pockets. Yeah, there are noodles in your pockets. That's how you can tell.
Starting point is 00:11:38 By the way, that's how you can tell if a man is Italian. When he's sent on the boat from Italy, they stuff his pockets with noodles. And that's how you know. It's every Italian. They say, man, you're taking the noodles. And they put them in there. And then you're good. And then they come over here.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You got to go put one of those signs in a bistro somewhere that says we have the best noodles in the world. That's it. And the only way to do that is to stuff your pockets full of that shit. Well, then if you send them with relatives, too, then they know that that's really their nephew. Right. And say, you look for the young Patricio. He has the noodles full of the fusilli. I put in the fusilli.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And the kid comes with penne. And they're like, no, sorry. You're not my nephew. Get the fuck out of here. Another kid comes pocket full. Yeah, he gets the fusilli. What's his profala? I don't know you.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I got a tapio. They hug, and it's fucking a big family reunion. It's fantastic. Jesus Christ. All right. Good God. By the way, I'll say this. Fuck it. All right. Good God. By the way, I'll say this. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I'll say it now. It's coming up for Easter. I'll tell it on Small Town Murder, too, because now you're writing to my grandmother. My grandmother on Easter last year, we go over there to say hello. Easter's a big deal for these old Italian women. Yeah. It's a weird thing. Well, it's the Catholic thing that's built into them, and it's Jesus.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, but it's a different thing. In Italy, Easter's a totally different thing where she came from everybody goes around and gives each other like baked breads and plants and shit it's super fucking weird it's not like they don't celebrate it in a religious way over there it's like a neighborhood yeah it's like a i don't know a feast kind of a thing but you're supposed to bring old ladies plants that's what you have to do in italy not flowers that are dead to be in the dirt right otherwise you're saying you're gonna die you need a potted plant super fucking weird so you have to do in Italy. Not flowers that have to be in the dirt. Otherwise you're saying you're going to die. You need a potted plant. Super fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:13:06 So you have to bring her a potted plant. So we bring her a fucking potted plant and she slips me something in my hand. She goes, my hair, take that. And I said, what the fuck is this? I thought it was like,
Starting point is 00:13:14 just like a little piece of paper in my hand. Like she's slipping me a tab of acid or something. And I'm like, what are you doing? And I see her doing it with other people. I said, grandma, what is this?
Starting point is 00:13:22 What did you give me? It's a little torn up little thing. And I go, what is this? She goes, my body of Christ. What the fuck? Body of Christ. We're in her kitchen, mind you, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 What do you mean body of Christ? Thank you for the plan to eat this. I said, what do you mean body of Christ? Where did you get this? And she goes, I took from the church. I stole this from you. I said, I don't think it means the same thing if you stole it. I don't think that Jesus' message carries through on pilfered bodies of Christ.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I think once you rip a piece off and steal it, it loses its value, I think, at that point. I love her so much. But she was forcing it on people. I'm like, I'm not eating that anyway. Like, I don't fucking do that stuff. She got mad at me. Jesus Christ. Poor Sarah had to eat it anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Fantastic. She's like, okay. She didn't even to eat it anyway. She's like, okay. She didn't even know what it was. She's like, I thought it was gum. I just put it in my mouth. Some shit gum. It just dissolved. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I don't know what happened there. But yeah, that's what I'm dealing with over there, guys. Fantastic. And she will be at the March 25th. Terrific. That's our murder show. So if you want to see my grandmother, she'll wave. And she's a ham.
Starting point is 00:14:20 She'll say something. Great. Back into fighters and lunacy here with pockets full of fusilli here. So I don't know where the hell that came from. Because the Quirolo Brothers staged circus shows there in Brazil. Italian guys? Italian Argentines. Got it.
Starting point is 00:14:38 They showed there and they presented Mitsuyo Maeda, who's a Japanese judoka and a prize fighter, basically. He does judo. And back then, they used to have these weird shoot fight displays, I guess. Exhibitions would be the best way. This is like, they did this with everything. They'd do it at circus. They'd do it at small little carnival things. This would be, this is wrestling back then was this.
Starting point is 00:15:03 That's what I was going to say. No actual striking. Just like putting on a clinic of how this stuff is done. It moves. But they would have fights. But there's no ropes or any theatrics. They'd just come in and a couple guys would grapple for an hour. I mean, that was literally what it was.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And back then, like in the carnivals with wrestling and stuff like that, they used to do like, they'd have an exhibition with their guys. And then they would take on all comers. They'd take any fat ass from the farm who thinks he's fucking strong. Anybody with a pocket full of fusilli that just got here thinks he wants to throw down. They'd tie those guys up, and everyone goes, oh, those guys are really bad asses. And then they believe them, and then they can fake a fight between each other. Great.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's kind of the thing here. But apparently, they're not faking fights between each other, which I still am leery of. I still do not believe that that is real. Sorry, guys. I understand it can be real, and you could really take somebody down, but I don't feel like all the fights that are being done for money are on the up and up. They're just not. I tend to side with that.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Anytime there's money involved, I feel like it's going to be leaning towards somebody. Anytime it's a one-on-one thing like that, one guy can be talked to, or the ref, or the judges, or the promotion, or anything could be done for that. I'm boxing everything. It was clear and evident that it happened. It's happened so much. It really has. And this would be so easy to just go, but if he loses this match, then the rematch would make so much more money. And then they could talk shit for three months. It's so
Starting point is 00:16:28 easy to do that. And that's where wrestling comes from. If you think anything at all is corrupt, you follow the money and you find where the fucking problem is. It's just with everything. And if you have a bunch of silver-haired middle-aged white men who don't mind making money off other people's brain damage, chances are
Starting point is 00:16:43 their integrity, you know, it's up for debate at that point whether it's a whole things on the oh they wouldn't do that right no they wouldn't fake a fight oh well god forbid your mortgage depends on it i'm sure that you're willing to discuss some things yeah no shit man carlos's brother uh helio uh he develops uh further he kind of he kind of develops from this judo that they learned kind of their own jujitsu style, Gracie jujitsu. They called it a softer pragmatic adaptation from judo that focused on ground fighting. So there was the Gracie family. They were making this fighting style, kind of making it a style. And there was also another Brazilian disciple,, Luis Franca, who also studied under Maeda, who was also a – that's kind of the two different styles. But the Gracie's have really persevered because they just made more people.
Starting point is 00:17:34 That's basically it. They're like, we're going to fucking make tons of people, and they're all going to put you in headlocks and take you to the ground. They're all going to fight the same way. They're all going to – yeah. Didn't it get called like the art of bone breaking or some shit like that? I'm not sure. I didn't find that. The Gracie jujitsu is a fight.
Starting point is 00:17:48 It's more of a grappling on the ground designed to either tap people out or break a fucking bone. That's your choice. It's pretty much it. Yeah. You're you're you're. Yeah. That's the best way to put it.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah. It is vicious here. Now, 1934. Yeah. Brothers Carlos, George and Helio all spent a week in jail. So this starts early. Yeah. We've never had a story start in the 30s with crime, and Helio all spent a week in jail. So this starts early. We've never had a story start in the 30s with crime, have we? I don't think that's...
Starting point is 00:18:09 I don't think so. I think this is our earliest... I mean, apart from Sears Roebuck selling the fucking lost and found... That's true. That was small-town murder, though. That wasn't this. This is the earliest I think crime... This is as close as it gets. Yeah, this is Depression era.
Starting point is 00:18:20 We have to go to our other podcast to find anything close to the crime happening. Exactly. They spent a week in jail. They were accused of attacking a former challenger in the street. Oh, Jesus. A guy named Manuel Rufino, who then pressed charges against them for doing this. Because all three of them apparently attacked this man in the street. One challenger.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Okay. All three of them. But everybody, that's a family jumping a man. That's pretty much what it was. It was like a barbecue gone wrong is what happened here. It's like, get him, all right. And all the brothers and the dad. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But this is kind of the family legacy is you find somebody that you don't like and you want to fight them in the ring and you also want to fight them out of the ring a whole bunch because we'll find out. It's just what they do. ring and you also want to fight them out of the ring a whole bunch because we'll find out it's just what they do uh apparently the three brothers were let go after a week after the court didn't find enough witnesses or evidence against them to charge them i don't know what the what the so just after a week they just like well there's not enough not enough i guess we didn't find witnesses and i don't know what the what the burden of evidence is down in Brazil in the 30s. His face isn't broken enough? I guess so, man. So anyway, the teachings here, Carlos' brothers Oswaldo and Gastão Jr., they were passed on to that.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Of course there's a junior. Of course there's a junior. There's a lot of juniors in this mess here. George also, there was one named George. Helio apparently was sick and had a hard time learning the art due to his medical problem here. He had physical issues. But he did become a coxswain for the rowing team, which is pretty interesting. My wife Sarah is a national champion coxswain, actually.
Starting point is 00:19:55 What's a coxswain? I know a lot about coxswain. They're the people who sit in the back of the boat for crew and yell at people to do shit. Okay. More and harder. Yeah, yeah. Go, you asshole. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Go fucking, yeah. Row, you sons of bitches. Row you lazy fucks. That's my wife. She's a little tiny one who sits in the back and goes, no! That's my wife. She's wonderful. Wonderful woman. He was the coxswain for the rowing team.
Starting point is 00:20:18 He's also a competitive swimmer. He also learned jujitsu through watching mainly the Helio, the younger Helio. Helio and Carlos are kind of considered, uh, to be, uh, kind of the creators of modern Brazilian jujitsu. Like they kind of, like I said, they formed it kind of more into the modern style of what you see now.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Got it. Didn't invent it, but kind of crafted it to, to what it is now. Massaged it and critiqued it to turn critiqued. And it's not, that's not the word I'm looking for. That's not even close to the word you're looking for, I don't think. They modified technique. I think that's where I was going. There was an eek in there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I had it in my head, and then my mouth was like, we'll say a different word. Have a word with a Q. Locked and loaded. I don't know what it is, but it's got a Q in it. Critique. That's the one we're using. We're going to go with that. So Ryan's dad is Carlos Robson Gracie. That's the one we're using. We're going to go with that. So Ryan's dad is Carlos Robeson Gracie.
Starting point is 00:21:07 That's the dad. He's born in 1935. He's referred to as Robeson most of the time. He's always Robeson Gracie. No one ever really uses the Carlos, probably because there's 18 other Carloses in the family. It's a little fucking confusing. I'll bet that's one of the top ten most popular names on the planet. Carlos? I'll bet it is. It's got to be close. It close to muhammad there's a lot of carlos is up out there in general and and even in any language too if you put charles and carlos you add all those up there's a lot of those jesus christ man a lot of people want to be named chuck
Starting point is 00:21:38 in this country what the fuck is going on so odd that that's that's a popular name that's hilarious considering that's the nickname, Chuck. Chuck or Charlie. Or Charlie, which both of them. Horrible. Which Charlie is like a racist term for the enemy. You don't want to be called Charlie. Yeah, you don't want to be called an Asian enemy.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Right. Yeah, that's not great. That's not terrific here. Now, Robeson is the second son of Carlos. Okay. So that's where we're at now. Now we're kind of getting into the lineage here. He fought in Vale Tudo fights.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I guess that's the Portuguese pronunciation of it that I found here. And I listened for it because I know these fuckers are picky with this shit. Oh, they are sticklers for pronunciation. And guess what? I don't give a fuck as much about your shit as anybody else's. So eat dicks, MMA people. We love you. Go fuck yourselves.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Okay. We're giving you what you get. We're going to make fun of it. Sorry. Yeah. I understand what you're doing. I get that it's difficult. Good for you for learning the skills.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I get that you love it. Fine. It's fine. We're not all. Yeah, it's good. So these are fights where people are unarmed, which is good, but it's full contact with basically no rules. It's the ones where we said you can just bicycle or you can just soccer kick a guy on the ground and that's okay.
Starting point is 00:22:52 That's these fights. They still have them. These are usually the 10-minute round ones. Jesus Christ. The ones that we talked about with Sulev when he first fought. It's just like, yeah. That's so long. They just go out there and it's just no rules for 10 minutes till somebody's dead, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I don't know. Someone has more brain damage than the other. That's too much. You go up in front of them, ask them each to read a sentence. And the one who can't do it as well is the loser. That's you lose. You have more brain damage than him. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Hilarious. Jesus Christ. You hold a drool cup in front of their mouth. And the one that drools the least is the winner. Yeah, that's what it is. Hey, he has two ounces. How much does he does he oh an ounce and three quarters we have a winner folks yay jesus he'll be fighting in three weeks again see you tomorrow sir we got training yeah so a lot of people think that this style here was is the precursor to modern mma and it basically
Starting point is 00:23:41 is except they put rules in it because i, you can't just have people on the ground kicking each other in the head. Kick somebody in the fucking face. It can't look like a fight in a 7-Eleven parking lot. That's the problem. And I've argued with people on goddamn Twitter about this shit. This is, why do you like MMA? I get it. I get that it's this.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I get all that. It looks like a fight in a 7-Eleven fucking parking lot. I get that they're both skilled. That's fine. And if you put one skilled fighter against a guy who can't fight, that skilled fighter would look great. He's taking him down. Holy shit. When you get two guys that both know what they're doing, it looks like two guys fucking wrestling in a 7-Eleven parking lot.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Because one guy took the last of the nacho cheese from the hot dogs. It's fucking ridiculous. I'm sorry. What do you need all those tornadoes for? The roller grill can only hold 12. Yes. That's fucking ridiculous. I'm sorry. What do you need all those tornadoes for? The roller grill can only hold 12. Yes. That's not fair. God damn it. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So that's why I say that. Right. I get that you'd think differently because you understand the inner workings of it, and I don't. That's great. I don't fucking want to. That's why I don't. I don't care because it's boring as shit.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Right. Moving on. So, my God, Jesus Christ. Now, Father Robson had a mixed martial arts fight, an MMA fight against Artur Medio in April of 1957. Yeah. This was his debut of MMA fighting. This was with some rules and shit. with some rules and shit.
Starting point is 00:25:06 During the fight, the dad here, Papa Gracie, submits his opponent, but then refuses to release him until the referee pulls him apart. What the fuck? He just wants to make everybody let it known that don't fuck with me, basically, which is crazy, I think. Tyson never kept punching until the ref pulled him off. No, he would stop, and then he'd go over and hug them and say, you did a great job, you're a wonderful fighter, and I'm really honored to fight you. And he'd say nice things. I'm really sorry I said I was going to eat your children.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, I'm sorry I gave you brain damage. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. I hope he can still spell your name. I'm sorry you're not going to remember your wife's face when you're 62. Very sorry about that. Very sorry. I'm sorry every time. You get confused every morning. Very sorry about that. Very sorry when she makes
Starting point is 00:25:43 practice in the morning, you're going to beat her when she burns it. Yeah, no shit. Apologize. You're going to be like Drew Barrymore in 50 First Dates every morning. Figure out where the fuck am I? What happened? What? Right.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, he was a boxer? Shit, I was an MMA fighter. Wow. That explains a lot. Okay. Yeah, so he was, this is what he was. He was a smaller fighter and he was trying to show everyone how tenacious and how nasty he was. He was a bodyguard to the brother-in-law of the then president of Brazil in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:26:15 So that was kind of a big deal because he was such a badass. Brother-in-law of the president needed a bodyguard. Needed a bodyguard. Yeah, apparently. Well, it's South America. There's a lot of assassinations down there, kidnappings. If you can't get to the president, you get to whoever is related to him. You kidnap and you do that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah, but he also, there was a Brazilian coup d'etat in 1964, and this put him on kind of the opposite side of that. His political affiliations were the opposite of what took over. So that was a bit of a problem. He was a family status quo. Is that what you're saying? He was with the old government. There was a flip into that was a bit of a problem. He was a family status quo. Is that what you're saying? He was with the old government. Got it. And there was a flip into kind of a more military type regime.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Got it. And he was kind of on the other side of that. So they looked at him different. He assisted Marxist guerrilla organizations. Holy shit. Which led to his arrest and a bunch of people in his family by the Brazilian Secret Service. It is crazy. Have we had anybody that was affiliated with a political party like this?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Well, the DATSIC is sort of a political party, I guess, kind of. He was telling people to vote. Proclaiming Nazi shit is just crazy. Yeah, that was just crazy. But this is like an organized, like he was part, he assisted a Marxist guerrilla organization, the Acayo Libertadora Nacional. This led to his arrest. He was arrested.
Starting point is 00:27:30 A bunch of people in his family got arrested. His wife, Vera Luna, tried to get the military to release him, and she ended up getting arrested for a while and released. They arrested Robeson, and he was imprisoned and interrogated for 60 days before being released. That's 60 days of hardcore shit. In Brazilian fucking... In the 60s. Yeah. This is no joke.
Starting point is 00:27:51 This is bad shit. Waterboarding would be like, that'd be a vacation then. Things happen to his balls. Let's just say that. I'm just going to say that and leave it there. Things happen to this man's balls and he was fine. And he lived. Yeah, it's crazy, man. So he's a ninth-degree red belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, affording him the title of Grandmaster.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And he has a bunch of kids, Ralph, Robeson Jr., Ryan, Renzo, Charles. There's a whole shitload of them here. A lot of Renzos here. Now, he has children. His brother, we have Ryan Renzo. Ryan is the baby of the family. He's the baby of a boy. I think there's a daughter younger than him, but he's the baby boy.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Charles and Renzo and Ralph are all fighters. Renzo has a 13-7 career record, and he's an interesting fellow, too. That daughter of theirs must have the worst fucking—can you imagine her dating life? Oh, Jesus Christ. A family full of of fucking fighters and they're all psychopaths that's the other thing none of these people are like oh they're just no they're crazy people all of them she's gotta have a dating life at some point imagine jesus christ i have the poor guys she'd like to come over to that house good christ almighty which one of these guys is gonna to choke me to death here?
Starting point is 00:29:07 And the dad comes out, and he's going to tell you about the time that a military organization beat the hell out of his balls. He's fresh out of a 60-day interrogation. He's in a good mood. He has no pubic hair because it's all been burned off. Burned and seared. Fucking electrocuted off himself. Half was burned. The other half was plucked out one by one.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And he's going to tell you about this story before you go to dinner with her. Perfect. Sounds great. Sounds wonderful. So if you were thinking about maybe possibly fingering her later, how about don't do that? That might be a bad idea. Fuck, man. So Renzo Psychopath, 13 and 7.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Ralph is 6 and 1. Yeah. He was a crazy bastard, too. He was in this weird, it was a short-lived promotion where he won three fights, all of them in less than two minutes. Yeah. He fought a national Sambo champion in the United States Shoot Wrestling Federation, founder Steve Nelson. Basically, Ralph thought that Nelson was talking shit, saying that he wanted to fight a member of the Gracie family instead of actually, you know, getting down and getting him in a hold like he would normally do. He actually just beat this guy with with strikes instead to show that he was pissed off at him and that he wasn't even going to fight his normal style because fuck you, basically.
Starting point is 00:30:21 This was vendettas. They love vendettas. These people, His father would encourage the boys. Now, this is the Robeson would encourage these boys to settle problems by fighting. Someone gives a problem, you go beat them up. South American street justice. Anybody. I mean, when I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:30:36 people would tell you, you gotta punch that kid in the face. But this was like, you guys all get together and you go attack them in a fucking jujitsu style. Much different than go fight that one kid. Very Italian of them. Very Italian of them. That's what I mean. South Americans, Italians.
Starting point is 00:30:48 That's why we went there. Very similar people here. It's very similar. We're scarily similar here. He would never get mad at them, the father, for any of this. He would tell them how he could have done it better. He'd be like, well, if you would have went around the side and get behind the guy's legs and then you would have hit him, he would have fell over and cracked his skull open on the ground.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's what we're going for is what I'm saying. You could have done this a little more efficiently. He coaches them on assault. On assault. He coaches them with street assaults. You guys, when you jump somebody, you got to get in there good. Somebody take the bottom, somebody take the top, and then somebody else just work over the ribcage.
Starting point is 00:31:21 We really got to do this properly, guys. You guys are assholes. They're crazy, too. This is a type, whenever we picture like these clans of boys running around, brothers, it's always insanity. Ralph once shot at his brother Renzo with a crossbow. What the fuck? Quote, just to scare him.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He said, hey, I thought it was funny. And basically all the brothers and cousins just fought constantly. It was just a constant. Sure. They were just constantly beating the shit out of each other. They moved around to different shitholes, I guess. Teresopolis. They moved to Copacabana.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Hey. That sounds lovely. Copacabana neighborhood. No, I'm sure it's not. I'm sure it's terrible for two years. They ended up in Barra de Tijuca on number 246 Gilberto Amando Street. This becomes kind of like the ground zero for Gracie fighting. It's fucking nuts, man.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Ryan was right away in the middle of all this, watching all of these brothers and cousins and everybody constantly fighting. all this, watching all of these brothers and cousins and everybody constantly fighting. When he was a child here, there was a beach brawl. Half of this shit is not sanctioned. They're fighting outside a lot. He has a crazy video where he bites a guy's ear off later. We'll talk about
Starting point is 00:32:36 he's the original Tyson. This was before Tyson. This whole thing. There's a fight here between Ricks and Gracie against a guy named Hugo Duarte. now ryan was a little kid at this point but his job was to film this fight great let's get him out there uh so i guess there's a they have the video of this still and they say the camera work is kind of shitty but the problem is because he's seven literally because he's a little kid and he's
Starting point is 00:33:02 trying to cut through adults and they're blocking the camera. Your cinematographer is nut height. You're going to get a lot of ass shots. Well, you can hear him, Brian, as a child swearing at people and fucking being mad. I'm telling him, get the fuck out of my way, you fucking asshole. Get out of my way. In Portuguese or whatever. In Brazilian, he's screaming at them to get the fuck out of my way.
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Starting point is 00:34:29 The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Bing! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy.
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Starting point is 00:35:25 Judy Justice, only on Freebie. And now back to the show. When he's 10 years old, the parents split up, which I imagine these imagine having these four brothers. Yeah. And then now you don't even have the father or our two. You just doesn't matter. Mother, father, you need two people. Sure. Just to corral it. Yeah. And then now you don't even have the father or our two. You just doesn't matter. Mother, father, you need two people. Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Just to corral it. Yeah. Because there is still outnumber you. So, I mean, one person. Holy fuck. That's that's insane. So this ended up basically they were on their own at this point. I mean, this was just craziness.
Starting point is 00:36:01 They had Renzo's the oldest. So he was kind of watching over everybody. They turned their giant living room. They had this big, great room. They turned it into just a giant training room. Of course. They turned their living room. They put mats on the ground, and it became the local. People would have beef in the street.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Not the brothers, just people, and they'd go to the house to fight in their living room. That was like, well, we've got to go over to Gracie's house and settle this shit. And what's mom going to do to stop that? She's drink. Imagine mom just sitting in her room with like three boxes of wine surrounding her, one knocked over, empty, just I can't fucking take it. I can't even have a living room. Because if she stopped it, she'd be wandering in there grabbing one mat and then going to
Starting point is 00:36:40 put that away. And then she'd come back and grab the other one. And another boy would grab the mat she just put away and bring it back. Yeah, she can't just sit and watch a show. No. She can't just sit and relax in her own living room because there's neighborhood men coming over to fight in it out of nowhere. And as soon as you corral all four of your boys into their bedrooms, then you've got
Starting point is 00:36:57 random strays just wandering in. We're here for the fight. We came to fight. Right. There's no fight. No, we're going to fight each other in your living room. Hi, I'm Bob. Just don't break the nice china fuck me jesus this is insanity so this is what would happen here uh they would have no holds barred living room matches between local street
Starting point is 00:37:14 men which was crazy fucking nuts here uh ryan says that he trained what he called it barra gracie uh since he was five years old okay uh he said he was 16 years old, he got a blue belt and won a competition called Copa Company Nova in Panama. I don't know what the fuck that is or what that means, but he won that tournament or competition or whatever it was. He was a crazy kid always. He is known as the batshit of the Klan, which this Klan, as we just, I needed to. You got a wild card and. Yeah, I needed to get, this is a deck full i needed to you got a wild card and yeah i needed
Starting point is 00:37:46 to get this is a deck full of jokers with a wild card in it that's exactly what this is like this he's the wild card i had to give you the background on this family to not just say like oh here's this guy and he's sort of crazy right they're all crazy yeah he's the one where like this fucking he's a problem like that's an issue crazies are calling him crazy yeah literally they're like he's an issue this one i don't know about the rest of these fucking people but he's a lunatic uh when he was a kid mind you he would tell all his friends that he was going to be dead by the age of 33 wow this is like his goal he's like tupac over here like jesus jesus well i don't think jesus said he was going to be dead by 33 i think tupac probably said that but not not jesus we're gonna get you going to be dead by 33. I think Tupac probably said that, but not Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:26 You know what? For this here, we're going to give Tupac much more credit than Jesus on that, because Tupac, he had the foresight to know. Jesus didn't know what was happening. All right. He had no fucking clue. He wasn't going around going, this shit's going to go bad. I just know it.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I know it's going to go bad. I know it. But if there was battle rapping back then, I'm sure Judas would have had a pretty sick verse. That's true. Yeah, he would have had a pretty sick verse. That's true. Letting everybody know how he's about to end all this. Yeah, throw it down, and then Jesus would have the cooler of the two. His would be funny.
Starting point is 00:38:54 He'd be mocking his anger. You know what I mean? It'd be good. There'd be a lot of bitches and hoes in that rap, too, because he hung with them. He loved them. I don't know what the last lyric, what the mic drop lyric would be. You know what I mean? You never know. That'd be a tough one to call anyhow.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Just with the amount of guest rappers on the appearance you would have to, the features would be insane. There's so many of them. So many. Do we have to get all the apostles? Even the Wu-Tang Clan would limit their number of people in one song. They wouldn't get all eight of them in one song. D12 even bullshitted.
Starting point is 00:39:27 They called it D12 the Dirty Dozen. There was only six of them. Yeah. So you can't have that many. It's too many rappers. It's just too many. They knew. They knew right away.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And Jesus would have just flooded the album with voices, and you wouldn't have even known who was talking. Well, he'd just be thumping people. Grab my dad's hand, floating away in the sky. Bitch, mic drop. It would have to be a reference to his dad just being omnipresent. God. Yeah, that would help.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Now, let's get it in their own words on this here. And in their own words on his childhood and how he grew up and his general demeanor. here and in their own words on his childhood and how he grew up and his general demeanor in their own words, quote, to be sure, I did a fight at least once a day when I was younger. My record is three fights in one day, but my fights was limited to the time when my friends were bullied or I myself was teased by somebody. I used to be teased very often when I was younger because I was so small. Jesus. So he's having three fights in a day.
Starting point is 00:40:23 How who's teased that much? We're fighting three different times. I think his perception of teases is different than other people's. I might be right. A guy just looks, glances over to see if he's there. He's like, you fucking teasing me. Next thing you know, they're in the living room fighting and his brothers are jumping in and it's insanity. Uh, yeah, he did the, uh, him and his brothers all trained here. His brothers were known, Ralph and Renzo were known as the better jujitsu fighters. They were known as good, like, sound, mechanical, technical, I guess you could call it, jujitsu fighters.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Ryan is known for being insane. He's known, he still fights, but he's known for street fighting, getting arrested, getting brought home by the cops. Sure. Having to pick him up from jail because he's doing crazy shit as a kid. He's fighting everybody. He's fighting everybody. His nickname was Fera back in the day. F-E-R-A.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah. Which means like feral. Okay. Like he's like a fucking rat in the streets. I assumed that. I almost said that. That's funny. He's a street rat.
Starting point is 00:41:21 He's the Aladdin? Is that what it is? He's a street rat. I was doing the, I guess it's the same thing with Danny DeVito and Charlie Sonny. Get over's the street rat I was doing the I guess it's the same thing with Danny DeVito and Charlie Sonny get over here street rat I love
Starting point is 00:41:29 I love that so much so that's that's kind of what he is and he's kind of like Aladdin actually oh my god he's Aladdin we're covering Aladdin or shit
Starting point is 00:41:36 this is this changes everything he was fighting everybody too well he was running from him he was kind of a pussy that Aladdin was a sucker yeah he was all kind of by himself stealing a piece of fruit.
Starting point is 00:41:46 This is different. He became – he was a part of what was known as the Pit Boys, which were – that's a type of gang who was all around the streets in Rio and all this sort of thing. They were – it's weird because they were mostly middle class kids. Yeah. mostly middle class kids. A lot of them were like jujitsu fighters here. So these like banded together roving kids that know how to fight. This is frightening. Latchkey kids that can fight. Like training for years since they were kids.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Vicious fighting styles too. Oh, it's insane. It's insane. These guys would all go around and rob people and just beat people up for no people. They killed a few people at times and shit like that, but it was – In the fights? They would attack people for no reason. Like the original knockout game.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Kind of like what they would do. They'd go around and fuck with people and look for things to do, and that was it. They'd go around looking for drunk people. They'd go to the nightclubs and shit like that. Scumbags. Look for assholes to beat up, and that's kind of what go around looking for drunk people. They go to like the nightclubs and shit like that. Scumbags. Look for assholes to beat up. And that's kind of what they are. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:42:49 They're assholes. It's a group of assholes would be the best way to describe this. It's so weird. He trains. Ryan trains with Ralph and Renzo, who later on would be his corner men a lot when he actually fights pro here. fights pro here. He also trained with a couple of fighters down there, Gabriel Vea and a jiu-jitsu
Starting point is 00:43:08 world champion, Fabio Leopoldo. He trained with. He sounds handsome as fuck. He sounds like he's got a very nice skin tone. He doesn't even have to fight. He could be a model. What are you doing? Why are you fighting? Don't fuck it up. No shit, man. He's probably hideous. That's probably what it is. He's just got a great name.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah, he's probably hideous. He's probably a monster. He, yeah. That's probably what it is. He's just got a great name. Yeah, he's probably hideous. He's probably a monster. He's probably got his nose smeared on the other side of his face. He's been fighting for years. Jesus Christ. So Gracie here, we'll talk about Ryan. He's in Rio. He has a Ford Escort, which is his first car, an Escort XR3.
Starting point is 00:43:42 This is interesting here. He was accompanied by his friend, Alexandra Soka. Ryan leaves Rio heading for Sao Paulo, okay, in the morning. He's 17 years old. He has no driver's license, but that's not an issue. He's still driving. He's insane. That's so not even probably a thought in his mind.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Like, I don't have a license. It was just like, there's a car. I'm driving it. Now, this car, for some reason, the tires kept going flat on this trip. The tires went flat more than 20 times. What? I think you need new tires at that point. You just
Starting point is 00:44:13 can't fix it. This trip isn't for you yet. It's ridiculous. So, he would pay to get them fixed, and then he ran out of money along the way, so he had a sponsor that he had clothes from a sponsor so he like bartered clothes that he had in the car that his sponsor gave him like workout shit to get it fixed again and then once he got rid of everything he had to barter and everything
Starting point is 00:44:36 else the tires were still flat so they kept going flat again blow this this fucking car up. I'm sorry. Just stop. Stop fixing them. Why are you driving somewhere when your tires go flat? I don't know. Is it just a highway of nails? What is he driving on? What the fuck? What is going on in Rio?
Starting point is 00:44:58 What is this? Is it poor tire quality? I don't understand what's happening here. So anyway, this happens again. The tires go flat again. So he decides to make a break for it. They get the tires fixed and they just take off without paying because they have no money. Of course, they get out on the road a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:15 The problem is when you're running, the tires go flat again. Jesus Christ. They'd have to go back to the same guy and convince him to fix the tires again, which he did. Somehow he did this. Somehow he went back and was like, yeah, I'm sorry I took off. That was a mistake. But I'll pay you twice for this time. So if you could do that.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Only once. You know what I mean? That old thing for sure fits here. That's the thing here. So anyway, they get that all fixed. It took forever, this trip here. It's dark outside, and they're still far away from Sao Paulo. And they wanted to rest, but his friends said, we're almost there.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Let's go. So Ryan said, okay, so here's what you do. Wake me at the curves, he tells him, which is a – he's basically telling him, wake me up, and then I'll wake up and take curves. I'm going to sleep. I'm going to sleep. I'll mash my foot on the gas. Yeah. And just wake me up when we have to turn? that's basically like this is it let somebody else drive that's i'm
Starting point is 00:46:12 just gonna say this that's a bad plan that's poor planning terrible plan um you stay awake and then i'll sleep and then you wake me no not right you just fucking switch seats they're almost there man so they didn't want to stop. And this is like us coming back from LA. But we pulled over and stopped for a minute and got out. It was like, OK, it's chilly out in the desert. I didn't say that shit to you. It's bracing.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Smoke a cigarette. I got a Pepsi here. OK, let's give. Yeah, we were like, let's wake up. This was like, wake me up in the curbs. Not great. Somehow, the first couple of curbs, it worked. And then his friend fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Oh, my God. Also. So they missed a curve, let's just say. They went down a hill, flipping several times. Wow. Several times. He was yelling and cursing during the whole accident. He was angry at anything.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Jesus Christ. Ryan says, quote, I just wanted it to be over. This is the tumbling down a hill. He said, quote, I just wanted it to be over. This is the tumbling down a hill. He said, quote, I just wanted it to be over so I could kick his ass. But then I felt sorry for him because he busted his knee in the accident. Oh, Jesus. So they rolled down a hill, and his first thought was, I'm going to drag his carcass out of this car and beat the shit out of him. Oh, no, he can't walk, I guess.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Never mind. I guess I'll get him later. He's got a heart of gold, this guy. Isn't he a sweetheart? He's a real fucking sweetheart, this one. So I thought that was amazing. I really wanted to beat the shit out of him. I wanted to stop this car accident.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Couldn't wait for this tumbling to stop so that I could punch his face. Not because it's scary to tumble down a hill in a car. No, I wanted to beat this guy next to me for falling asleep and not waking me up as I go around the corner. Fucking maniac. So when he was 17 years old, he had a fight with a kid. And we'll let him tell it because it's more fun here. He says, when I was 17 years old, I had a fight with a man from Manaus at my friend's house.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It started when he said, quote, you're not a real Gracie. It made me upset, and I fought with him for 43 minutes. He said, he said he gave up less than 10 minutes from the start and he said it again
Starting point is 00:48:11 in another 15 minutes, but that insult stuck in my mind so hard that I didn't stop it. What the fuck? Another 30 minutes passing when I caught, Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 00:48:20 when I caught him with a takedown, a big flower vase fell on me and broke my two ribs. I could barely breathe, but I kept on fighting, getting takedown, a big flower vase fell on me and broke my two ribs. I could barely breathe, but I kept on fighting, getting takedown or taking his side. Then Carlos Gracie Jr., who noticed my ribs were broken, stopped the fight, and it all ended like this. So that's how it ended there.
Starting point is 00:48:38 How do you notice someone's ribs are broken? They are obviously broken. If they're obviously broken, there's like a dent or a bone is poking out. And you could see that he was broken. Is he fighting continuously after he's got a compound fracture of the fucking ribs? I think so. Probably. They told him that
Starting point is 00:48:55 he said that he wouldn't have stopped on the give up. But this is fucking funny, man. One month later, his brother Renzo tried to arrange another fight with this guy. A month later. A month later. And he said, quote, Ryan is a funny, man. One month later, his brother Renzo tried to arrange another fight with this guy. A month later. A month later. And he said, quote, Ryan is a boy, but very strong.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I will fight him with a gun next time, if any. That was this guy. He's like, I'm not fighting him, basically, at all. A vase didn't stop him. Yeah. And broken ribs. Yeah. A gun is the only way I'm going to fight that man.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And he said the other guy was 95 kilograms. He was only 68 kilograms and uh he was a blue belt in jujitsu uh but uh anyway in the end the guy ended up uh fighting him again really this is all like none of this is like no one's getting paid for this this is literally just we're gonna fight in the yard this is what crime and sports has devolved to yard fights right don't't worry. He fights pro at some point here. We'll talk about it. He gets some big fights. But anyway, this guy said he would do it again. He would fight him.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Ryan says, quote, I took the mount position four times and his back two times. He was desperate. When I took the mount position, he tried to stop my movement by holding my finger. My father saw it and tried to warn him that holding fingers or pulling hair is not what man is supposed to do. His father saw it and tried to warn him that holding fingers or pulling hair is not what man is supposed to do. But Waleed Ismail, who was on his side, this is another guy we'll talk about a lot. I don't know if I'm saying his name right. But Waleed Ismail, who was on his side, said, quote, this is valetudo, so everything is acceptable.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Biting, pulling hair, anything is okay. Jesus. Then Renzo said, okay, if you say so, bite him, Ryan. So he said, oh, everything's acceptable? Okay, go ahead and fucking bite him. So he said, so, quote, I was waiting for him to hold my finger. When he took action, I bit his ear and tore it up. Oh, my God. Later, I advised him to go to the hospital and undergo medical treatment.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Anyway, it was a pleasure for my brothers to boast of my street fighting stories. For the brothers, they just thought this was hilarious like fucking ryan bit this guy's ear off in the street how funny is that jesus this is hilarious right they're fighting and they're now discussing the rules like they didn't discuss the rules before the fight anything goes and then they're like oh but only only a fucking pussy pulls fingers and hair and shit like that and they were like well anything goes, anything goes. He's like, all right. Then he'll bite his fucking ear off. Rip him apart with your teeth.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Apparently so. This is way pre-Tyson. So, yeah. So that's what happens there. He bit a kid's ear off. And this is a very, very legendary fight, this whole thing. It's on YouTube, the whole deal. It's fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:51:20 That's horrific. It's on YouTube or somewhere else, but the video's up. You saw it. It's up. It's crazy shit. I mean, you can't. It's all pixelated 1991 camcorder. It's garbage footage. It's on YouTube or somewhere else, but the video's up. You saw it. It's up. It's crazy shit. I mean, you can't. It's a pixelated 1991 camcorder. It's garbage footage.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's fucking crazy. They're just fighting in the street. It's insanity. So he said he defeated a champion of the Pan American in the Brazilian championship after he was promoted to black belt. He moves to Sao Paulo where he settles in there, starts to kind of make a name for himself as a local instructor. He ends up in 1995. They found us. He founds a school with his brother, Ralph.
Starting point is 00:51:52 All right. A jujitsu school. And it's it's it's a kind of a fucking they're a big deal there. People respect them. They have like it's like the number one school there. It's like if you want to learn how to kick ass, you go to see the Gracies. That's the way it is here. So he finds the, uh, the, founds the school.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Like I said, uh, 1997. Every time you say Sao Paulo, I think of when I was young, when we, when I watched nothing but trouble, the movie, so that when the two get dumped out of the shit pipe, the, the, uh, South American guy and the girl, when they get out of the shit pipe, he says, it smells like Sao Paulo. So when I was a kid, I was convinced- Oh, you've said this before. Did I say?
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah, you've talked about that. I was convinced that Sao Paulo meant shit. Yeah, yeah. I love that so much. I'm an idiot. That's so fucking funny. So my whole life, I just kept going, it smells like Sao Paulo, until I got to like, I don't know, 18, 19 years old. I don't know, probably younger. When you told somebody you're going to go drop a Sao Paulo until I got to like I don't know 18 19 years old I don't know
Starting point is 00:52:45 probably younger when you told somebody you're gonna go drop a Sao Paulo and they were like what what are you talking about what does that mean I'm an idiot it was when I learned that Sao Paulo was a place you're like whoa why is they name that place shit oh I get it that place
Starting point is 00:53:01 is a shitty place and that's what they were saying I gotta go back and re-watch Nothing But Trouble. Fuck. Then you watch it, and you're like, oh, no, this is terrible. Never mind. But I'll still watch it 26 times. Yeah, just for the dick knows on accurate. It's funny as hell.
Starting point is 00:53:14 So 1997 is the Jiu-Jitsu Pan American whatever tournament in Honolulu. Yeah. This was, you know, he hadn't fought fought pro before but this is an amateur thing here uh his uh roiler gracie wins the 70 kilogram title at these games he also wins it in 99 uh the now but that's the fighting and the tournament doesn't matter here what matters is how crazy this son of a bitch is uh he never surfed before didn't know what he was doing he just grabbed a board and went out just decided to go I'm going to go surf. That looks fun. Yeah. So he just goes out. This is the island of Oahu off of there. He was it was fucking crazy. There was apparently giant waves and people were, you know, he was
Starting point is 00:53:57 trying to do it. And they were like, what is he doing? Like, he doesn't know what he's doing. Obviously, he's falling down. He tried to drop in on three waves and he'd wipe out. He nearly drowned, he said at one point. But he came out just fine. So he doesn't care. To go in on a surfboard and not just be like, I'm going to learn how to paddle. He just was like, that's a huge wave. I'm going to go out there and just drop in on this giant wave.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Those guys are doing it. Clearly, I can do it. That's a level of insanity that you will drown doing that shit if you're not insanely strong. Or you'll die by getting knocked out by the board. By the board. There's a lot of ways for that to be bad here. At the same trip here and the same time in Hawaii, he got in a car accident and flipped his car over. Again. Again.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He's not a good driver at all, this guy. He has no license anywhere. He's driving around anyway. He gets in a car accident, flips his car over. Apparently two Hawaiians were in the accident with him that got in another car. In another car. He got mad, dropped them each with a single elbow strike. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Just dropped both of them with elbows. By the way, he does that all the time. Just constantly with the elbows. Elbow strikes and car flipping, this guy. He can't drive and he loves to just, you'll be talking to him, he'll just drop you with an elbow out of nowhere. He's a crazy person uh lots of shit like that uh 1997 he becomes the brazilian national champion in some form of jiu-jitsu that he's doing here uh that's god very very spotty tournament records on late 90s brazilian jiu-jitsu tournaments surprise very
Starting point is 00:55:22 shy i looked trust me I was fucking digging it. It was not easy. 1998, there's a black belt guy named Jorge Pereira. I'm saying that wrong, but it doesn't matter. Basically, now, this guy, Ryan was hanging out with a guy named Paolo Guilobel, and even Ryan even lived at his house here and there. They knew each other since they were kids, these two. Apparently in 1998 they have a falling out over a girl.
Starting point is 00:55:52 They have an argument over a girl, and so they schedule to fight each other in the gym. Oh my God. To settle this whole thing. Over a girl. Over a girl. They're going to have a fight in the gym and settle the whole thing. It's very manly. It's very, very manly. This is very, very high noon. Very grown up. Yeah. We're going to have a fight in the gym and settle the whole thing. It's very manly. It's very, very manly.
Starting point is 00:56:05 This is very, very high noon. Very grown up. Yeah. We're going to do, well, not grown up, I would say. It's very fifth grade, but in a grown up way. Right. It's like if you gave fifth graders guns and said, now duel. Duel it out.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yeah, that's what we're doing now. Now, these people that saw the fight, they arrive late and they see that they're already fighting. These two are fighting in the street out in front of the academy. Okay. That doesn't seem like a great place to fight. They were friends and they said it didn't look like a real fight because they weren't trying to hurt each other. They were trying to win.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Ryan was on top of the other guy, on top of his guard, and they fought because basically they didn't want to fight each other, but they said they were going to fight, so now they have to fight. And so they were kind of – it was wrestling at that point. They were like, yeah, I got you in a headlock. Yeah. Would you do this next? Like they were literally not really fighting and fighting because they just had to.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And it was like, ah, they cooled off and they were like, well, now we told everyone we're going to fight. We don't look like pussies. Fuck. Now we got to fight. So they do that. They're, they're fighting. They said that it was very calm.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And, and while they're, while they're fighting, Ryan starts arguing with Jorge, the black belt guy who's like an instructor of these guys. Yeah, he's arguing with him. Another guy steps in to try to calm them down so the outcome didn't get screwed with. He said, how about if both stand up, it's over? Like, you guys get up, and then that's it. It's over with. How's that? Like, let's agree to quit. We'll call it a draw? Like, you guys get up and then that's it. It's over with. How's that? Like, let's agree to
Starting point is 00:57:25 quit. We'll call it a draw. Yeah, you guys are just humping each other anyway. This is very silly and it just looks like you're romantic at this point. That sort of thing. Both agreed. So the Gileo Bell or Gile Bell pushed Ryan away and got up. And then Jorge goes
Starting point is 00:57:41 over and talked to Ryan about to go talk shit about what he said during the fight. Like, oh, why were you talking shit to me during the fight? This isn't a good plan. This black belt guy goes over. Hey, what the fuck? As he's going over to talk to him, Ryan just drops him with an elbow.
Starting point is 00:57:55 My Christ. Cracks him with an elbow, drops him to his knees and stuns him. An hour later, Ryan left and Jorge went back to talk to the other guy and Jorge wanted to settle this shit. He's like, I'm pissed. He was pissed off. Eventually, they came to terms and they said there would be no fight. It's all fine.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Everything's fine. But the Jorge guy said, and he's like a higher echelon guy, a black belt. He was pissed off. And he said, all right, fine. We won't fight again. And he said, quote, hats off to the kid for that elbow strike. Not bad. That was the translation of that.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Pretty impressive. Not bad. He's got a good elbow on him, that kid. He likes to drop people with elbows. There's a story of one of his students there, and he's in Rio, and it's by the beach, and he was saying what a great time it was down there. He said he was coming back from going in the ocean, and he sees Ryan Gracie at a juice stand with a bunch of other jujitsu guys. And he said he was going to go over and pay his respects to him because he's kind of a... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And he said, but it seemed like Ryan, as he got closer, was busy yelling and pointing at someone 30 yards away. Oh, boy. He said he figured it was a friend until he heard the quote, the well-known Portuguese word, veado, which means fag. He goes, I don't think this is a goes, I don't think this is friendly. I don't think this is friendly. I think he just called him fag. This isn't going to go well. So he says...
Starting point is 00:59:13 I love the... We can take that word out of our lexicon. Everybody wants it out. It's a very stupid word. It is. That's why it's hysterical, because it's dumb. But every language in the world has one that means that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It has like a negative connotation to it. Not just like homosexual. It's been like, it's like gay with some stank on it. Gay with some sting, for sure. You're gay and I'm not approving of your actions is what that says rather than just, you know, oh. Right. It's not you're gay. It's not your gay.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's not necessarily. It is gay. It's gay and you want to fuck me. That's what it is. Well, I feel like this is the type of shit like you wouldn't call a gay guy that. No. You'd call a straight guy
Starting point is 00:59:57 you're trying to piss off that, which is such a weird male psyche. It's so dumb. We're fucked up in the head, dude. No one should care. But it's so funny and I'm never going to stop saying it. But we shouldn't care. It's so dumb. We're fucked up in the head. No one should care. But it's so funny and I'm never going to stop saying it. But we shouldn't care.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Someone called you that. Why would you care? I would think it was hilarious at this point. It'd be like, that's pretty funny. Somebody called me that in traffic once
Starting point is 01:00:16 and I laughed. That's what I mean. I guess if you were gay and you were worried about people coming out, you probably wouldn't laugh as hard. For me, it's like,
Starting point is 01:00:23 what are you talking about? If I was gay and I was afraid that that man was going to beat me for being gay, then there's some fear attached to it. That's a whole other thing. But being a straight man and being called that, I'm just like – You're just like, where'd that come from? It's not even just – it's the lack of creativity. Well, it's like if somebody calls you the N-word, you'd be like, all right, but that's strange.
Starting point is 01:00:42 It's an odd choice. Okay. I guess, but – It's just such a haymaker swing. Yeah. n-word you'd be like all right but that's strange it's an odd choice okay i guess but it's just such a it's such a haymaker swing it says i've pissed you off to the point of you lack creativity now and can't even insult me in a decent way that's all you've got left oh man all right so let's see who the fag is here okay anyway this guy says uh looks over, and it's a well-known guy. It's the Valid Ismail guy from before. They were jawing while he was fighting.
Starting point is 01:01:10 The guy that told him everything's fine. Everything's legal. And his coach told him, all right, bite him. Yeah. So he said Valid was standing there in full combat form, arms spread out, and yelling back at him, ready to fucking fight. And this guy was like, holy shit, this is amazing. These two are going to fight on the beach here. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Is this free? Yeah, this is amazing here. He thought it was going to just deflate and the whole thing would go away, but Ryan kept repeating over and over again. He kept repeating, you know, he kept calling him a fag over and over and over again. He said that he kept saying that he punched him. There was a competition and this was spotty. It was very hard to find
Starting point is 01:01:47 exactly what happened here, but there was a competition where they weren't even fighting these two, Ryan and Ishmael. They weren't even fighting, but in the back there was a confrontation and apparently Ryan took a swing at him. And then it was broken up, but then he took a sucker punch at him and he was trying to
Starting point is 01:02:04 say that he hit him and they were basically trying to say, I beat you back there. And the other guy was saying, but they took a sucker punch at him, and he was trying to say that he hit him. And they were basically trying to say, I beat you back there. And the other guy was saying, no, you weren't. And then he called him a fag, and that's how the whole thing did. It's all so childish. It's all so weird. So Ryan states that this young man here, this Ishmael, is at the wrong beach, and he needed to go back up north where the pale people live. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Get out of here, white boy yeah basically so valide was uh motioning to ryan that he had uh that he he would sign the contract and he would beat him up in a ring out of a ring anywhere okay uh this is fucking insanity the whole thing is nuts here they're screaming and yelling and this is on the sidewalk there's tons and tons of people now have started watching this, observing it. It's very interesting. You start hearing a wild man screaming that word. It tends to get some attention. Ishmael is barefoot on the hot sidewalk trying to fight, punching his chest and yelling and screaming,
Starting point is 01:03:00 and let's go right now and all this type of shit. So Valid points to a little patch of grass that he's standing by there. Let's go fight right here. Why don't you at least stand on that? Because you're burning your feet. Yeah. So I'm going to go stand on this grass. You can meet me here, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:03:16 So they had a few more minutes of shit talking. And then Ryan tells his friend to watch his back and he goes over to fight Valid. He takes his shirt off. The whole thing is going great here, obviously. This is fun as shit. So they're about to fight. They're getting in there. They're about eight feet apart. People are yelling all sorts of
Starting point is 01:03:36 Portuguese shit. Everybody's fighting. Waleed points to something, says that Ryan has something in his hand, but he doesn't. He was saying he was seeing if Ryan has something in his hand, but he doesn't. He was saying he was seeing if he had anything in his hand. A weapon. He was seeing if he had keys or something in there, he said. Solidify the wrist.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's what he was saying. Keys. Did he have keys in there? He was going to jack him with those. They're just about to fight, and then a bunch of people got in the middle and broke it up. Bastards. Why are you breaking this up? Yeah, this is amazing. Why? Brian did spit at him a whole bunch, too. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Of course. He hocked a few on him. A guy that screams fag at somebody definitely spits. Yeah. Anyway, they ended up, this wasn't the end of it. They got a little far away from each other. Shit talking. They end up coming back together again.
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Starting point is 01:06:59 slash crime and now back to the show. Now, let's hear what his brother Renzo says about him. His brother Renzo says, quote, my brother Ryan, he's a disgrace. He laughs while he says that. Everything I did in my life that brought trouble to my parents, he gave them at least four times more. You tell the stories and people think you're lying, that you're exaggerating, but they're all true.
Starting point is 01:07:22 He's the guy that's like, no, it's actually less than what he actually does. He's crazy. They asked the father one time, Robson, about Ryan, and Robson said, quote, one can also see it differently. Do you know why the academies are full? Because there is Ryan. He said notoriety has its advantages.
Starting point is 01:07:43 He said, so that's true. People know who he is, so they want to train under him because he's crazy. For some reason, it's desirable to be the guy in Brazil that will fight people in the street. You're like, I want to fight people in the street. That sounds great. I need to do this guy. This isn't like martial arts. I know it's a martial arts, but it's like the whole point of martial arts is to not fight as much unless it's a competition with someone who knows it or with defense or something.
Starting point is 01:08:06 But this is like fight people in the streets. For nothing. Call them fags and then we'll offer to fight them. Like, this is the art of it is you're losing me on that. Put it that way. Another acquaintance of Ryan said, this is my favorite quote in this fucking episode. He said, quote, he was a crazy guy. In America, the police would have just shot him.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It's like they wouldn't even have dealt with him. Let's shoot this crazy bastard. I love that. In America, he wouldn't make it a day. No, he would not make it a day. And let's just say right now, Grace. You mean Gracie?
Starting point is 01:08:36 I mean, I was just going to say, or Gracie. You pick. This is Grace. He has not had a professional fight yet, mind you, and that is coming. So Grace, before he even does anything at this point. His Grace is before his success.
Starting point is 01:08:50 He's got a school, and everybody thinks he's just a fun, crazy guy at this point who's kind of a good time. It hasn't gotten to the point where we're like, ooh, we've got to fix this. This is a problem here. He's a disgrace-y. That's what he is. He's a damn disgrace-y. He's a disgrace. That's what he is. He's a damn disgrace.
Starting point is 01:09:04 So 2000, he's in the Pescadoras nightclub in Rio de Janeiro. Apparently there's a scuffle. There's a guy named Marcus Rosa who's nicknamed the Chuck Norris of my air. That's hilarious right there. And apparently there's a big fight there between these two guys in the nightclub and it's all muddled of what happened, but apparently
Starting point is 01:09:31 somehow... You mean the guy that calls people fag when he's sober on the beach? At a nightclub, he's aggressive. He was in a juice stand when that happened. He had like some papaya in him. He's getting a Jamba juice and now he's got booze in him. So this shit's going to escalate.
Starting point is 01:09:47 He likes Coke, too. So watch out for that. He's into the Coke. Apparently, in the end, Chuck Norris ends up stabbed in the end of all this. That's what ends up happening. And Ryan gets blamed for it. We'll find out a little more of that that happened here. And Brian gets blamed for it.
Starting point is 01:10:03 We'll find out a little more that happened here. He said that he complains, though, when they took him to jail, that he didn't get proper food and had to share a cell with 35 inmates. But he said he was fine when he was in jail. He said, quote, they didn't bother me. I kept quietly to myself in a corner. They all treated me well. I gave out autographs and some T-shirts to prisoners and policemen alike. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:10:23 This is a guy who will do fine in prison. Yeah. He's known as a psychopath. Everybody's afraid of him. He's fine. His life will be the same. Yeah. He's just going to fight maybe a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:10:33 That's it. Yeah. He realized that prison's fine. That's what it is. Well, this isn't scary. He said, quote, I never want to go back, and I have faith I'll never go to a place like that again. Spoiler alert, he's wrong. Not true.
Starting point is 01:10:45 They asked him if this would change his attitude and he said, quote, no, I won't change my attitude, but I will stop responding to provocation so I won't end up in this type of mess. Okay, now, here's what Ryan says happened, alright, in this nightclub thing. He says, quote, okay, I happened to be
Starting point is 01:11:02 there that night and I saw 15 men start beating on a 17-year year old boy all of a sudden. I've never seen such a scene before. I don't like cowards. So I got in among them to stop it and was involved into into the fight. The nightclub was turned into chaos. A man with the nickname of Chuck Norris punched my friend and then came after me. I caught him with a clinch and flung him away.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I got a small cut with a knife that he had then. It was far from stabbing, actually. Then I got out of the nightclub holding the wound. The police came after that. I was questioned by the police later. Of course, I was not guilty. He spends 18 days in jail for this, and he fails to mention the fact that the other man ended up with a stab wound. That's what he forgot to mention.
Starting point is 01:11:42 He said, I had a little cut on me from his knife, and everything's fine. He forgot that he took the knife away and stabbed the guy. That's what he forgot to mention. He said, I had a little cut on me from his knife and everything's fine. He forgot that he took the knife away and stabbed the guy. That's a problem. But he was innocent. I was not guilty, of course. I jumped into a fight that I had nothing to do with and stabbed a guy. Perfectly fine. Totally acceptable. Perfectly normal. Perfectly healthy. Perfectly acceptable. Fine. I didn't drop an elbow on anybody. No, never. Not off the top rope, I swear. He spends 18 days in jail over this, like I said. He had what he described as hundreds of street fights, just hundreds of street fights. Constant, constant street fights.
Starting point is 01:12:17 He asked his brother to get him a fight in Pride, you know, the Pride fighting. Renzo's agent, his brother's agent, liked the idea. His brother said, though, he didn't think Ryan was ready yet. And he wanted to postpone this fight that they were trying to get him in 2000, in August of 2000 for Pride. But Ryan begged and begged and begged that he wanted to fight. I mean, Christ, he's fighting in the street anyway. Might as well release him into the ring. Sure.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Fuck. Just to harness some of that energy i would say uh apparently renzo let him uh so he is signed to do uh to have a fight in august of 2000 for a purse of 150 000 dollars holy shit 150 000 fucking dollars which is a huge money yeah it's not what all the guys are getting paid yeah it's because he's gracie who he is he's ryan gracie and he's got a reputation as a lunatic, and they all want to see him in the ring, obviously, here. As he goes to the ring, a Japanese announcer called him the greatest street fighter in
Starting point is 01:13:12 the Gracie family, which I guess... Say that one more time. Japanese announcer, as he came to the ring, said that he was the greatest street fighter in the Gracie family. Okay. So they had to qualify the type of fighter he is. He's a crazy fuck, is what they said. He's the greatest lunatic that this family has to offer.
Starting point is 01:13:30 With broken beer bottles, this guy's a monster. That's absolutely. Give him fucking, what am I trying to think? The rules and fucking don't do just about anything, and he's not the best fighter. And then it's different. Right. Also, the announcer told of how he once bit an opponent's ear off in a street fight. He talked about that also.
Starting point is 01:13:51 That's interesting, though. On TV, you're like, oh, God, this guy could bite an appendage off. This is great here. His brother Renzo says about him, quote, What people don't understand is that Ryan was a very special guy to a very few people. Not many could say that they were his friend. It's the difference between having a cat and a tiger. It's like for sure you're going to worship ten times more the friendship of a tiger
Starting point is 01:14:11 because he could eat you at any time. Most people choose to be friends with pussycats. That's a really good way to put it. That's great. That's a really good way to put it. Like it's scary to be friends with him. So if you're friends with him and he likes you, that's an accomplishment. It takes work.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It's not just like having a fucking cat and put down a box and it's easy. So I like the way he put that. That's really a good way to put it here. Now, August of 2000, Roger Gracie, another Gracie, who was a blue belt at the time, is arrested with three other jujitsu teammates for shooting at three transvestites using rubber bullets and paintball guns. He was 19 years old. Never ends up getting convicted from it.
Starting point is 01:14:48 But his mother ends up shipping him off to the United Kingdom to keep him away from idiot and street gang morons. Sure. He eventually became a big fighter and was fine here. But his mother asked for forgiveness to the transvestites for her son's attitude. This is great here. She said, quote, I talked to him and I told him I was very sad. I think it was a bad taste joke, an absolutely reprehensible attitude. I wanted to apologize on his behalf.
Starting point is 01:15:13 It was a surprise, a shock. I disapprove of this, but I'm on his side just because he is just a boy who is building his life story. So he's being a jerk off. It's fine. Boys will be boys. Except I've never shot paintballs at a transvestite. Rubber bullets and paintballs at anybody? No, no.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Absolutely not, man. That's a fucking banana Saturday night. It's crazy, right? That's ridiculous. You should get arrested for that. Jesus. So he's still teaching. Ryan's teaching at the school.
Starting point is 01:15:40 His brother Ralph moved to the U.S. Renzo ends up moving to the U.S. too. But Ryan stays down there and runs the school. His brother Ralph moved to the U.S. Renzo ends up moving to the U.S. too. But Brian stays down there and runs the school. He says at this point here in 2000, they have 800 students, which is a lot. They have 10 brown belts and two black belts in there, which is hard to get to.
Starting point is 01:15:56 So, you know, he's has a decent business. I mean, 800 students seems like a lot. It seems like if you've got 800 and if they're paying 30 bucks a month, you're making a killing. Well, and in respect, too, he's asked why haven't
Starting point is 01:16:11 he fought pro, and he said it's because he had a big damage in his back when he got in a car accident when he was 18 when he fucking flipped and rolled down a hill. Quote, I couldn't do anything for seven months at the time. A few years later I got another big damage to my knee when I was training with my teammate. Basically, I hate hospitals.
Starting point is 01:16:30 So I decided to let them heal naturally. That's why I didn't participate in a championship valetudo. What the fuck? He just decided to let shit heal naturally, which doesn't seem like a good idea for an athlete. How much do you have to hate something that is that helpful? shit heal naturally, which doesn't seem like a good idea for an athlete. How much do you have to hate something that is that helpful? Boy, I hate hospitals, so I just decided my knee ligaments would heal themselves. No, that's not how shit works.
Starting point is 01:16:57 What the fuck? Boy, I hate car mechanics, so I just figured my transmission would start working if I just let it heal on its own. You just got to give the transmission room and time and it'll come around. What a banana's thought. That's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous and everything he does is pretty crazy. So they ask him how the injuries are now since he just let them heal naturally.
Starting point is 01:17:15 He says, no problem at all. 100% recovery. I am ready for any fights. Okay. They ask him, they say, your brother Renzo is famous in Japan. How do you think about him? He says that Ryan says, quote, he's an inspiration in my life, both as a fighter and a person. The Gracie name is famous. However, Renzo is the only one who doesn't care about who his opponent is or how big or heavy his opponent is or what the rules are.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I think he deserves to be called the most active man in the family in this sense. He's got mad respect for Renzo. Renzo's crazy. man in the family in this sense. He's got mad respect for Renzo. Renzo's crazy. They ask him, well, then what do you think about Ishizawa, who will be your next opponent at this time, because that's going to be his first fight, pro fight. He says, quote, I'm going to challenge him to a hard fight, so I expect him to be training
Starting point is 01:17:58 for it. They said it will be his first challenge to Vale Tudo, just like you, because it's his first fight, too. They're two debuting fighters. He said, quote, no, it won't be my first challenge to Vale Tudoudor just like you because it's his first fight too. They're two debuting fighters. He said, quote, no, it won't be my first challenge to Valley Tudor because I experienced street fights more than 500 times without any defeat. This record may be more than
Starting point is 01:18:14 Rickson and nobody has the experience of Valley Tudor as I may have. My ability performed in Valley Tudor is excellent. It's exactly the same as in street fights. I am very well prepared for anything. And they said more than 500 fights and no loss. And his dream is, he says, quote, my dream is to keep on winning and become a fighter who can represent the Gracie family as a result of continuous victories.
Starting point is 01:18:36 I hear that Japanese spectators have eyes to evaluate jujitsu technique fairly. He makes a comment about Japanese eyes. Japanese eyes. I hear they see really, really well. He makes a comment about Japanese eyes. Japanese eyes. Yeah, that's why. I hear they see really, really well. That squinting makes them really focused down. They can see far. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:18:56 That's hilarious. Go on. He says he's very proud of fighting in such a country as Japan. And so August 27, 2000, he makes his pro debut, a post-Grace debut. Not bad. At Pride 10 Return of the Warriors, which is in the Cebu Dome in Tokorozawa, Saitama, Japan. His brother Royce is also on the show. Really? So he's got somebody to hang out with.
Starting point is 01:19:19 He fights Tokimitsu Kendo Kashin is his nickname. Kendo Kashin Ishizawa, who is 0-0 coming in, debut fight. Ryan wins with knockout with punches at 2 minutes and 16 seconds in the first round. So he street fights this guy basically and pummels him to and ends up with a 1-0 record. The Japanese kids, the youth of Japan, love him. Oh, my God. They're big into rebellious shit over there because it's such a, you know, how their society is. And so they're very regimented.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Yeah. So anybody who's a rebel, they really dig that shit over there. So they loved him. He made a point of always greeting his fans at events. He'd come over. He'd even. I just had a thought that maybe that's why Kim Jong-un, or is it un or ill? It's un, right?
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah. Maybe that's why he likes Dennis Rodman because he's like. Yes. But then I was like, no, he likes Dennis Rodman because Dennis Rodman is probably the only person that's willing to talk to him. That also, yes. I don't think Michael Jordan is going to entertain that conversation. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I don't think Scottie Pippen would at this point. No, they'd be like, you were a big Bulls fan, huh? That's great. Okay, I'm going to go over here now. Yeah. I don't want you liking Pippen would at this point. No, they'd be like, you're a big Bulls fan, huh? That's great. Okay, I'm going to go over here now. I don't want you liking me. It's weird. He was really into 90s American culture, into sports, into the Bulls, into that. Hussein was super into, Saddam Hussein was super into American movies.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Really? Super into American movies. He loved mob movies. He loved The Godfather and shit like that. Huge fan of that shit. Interesting. He was huge into American movies. I mean, who the fuck wouldn't?
Starting point is 01:20:46 You know what I mean? Yeah, but it's, yeah, they like hate these people, but then they were like, oh, the decadence of the Americans. We killed them all. Fire from the sky. Hey, that's a good movie. I like it. That Al Pacino, he gives a good performance, make me think he's really the guy. He's good.
Starting point is 01:21:02 He's good. That is the worst Hussein I've ever heard. Well, that's him behind closed doors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's really the guy. He's good. He's good. That is the worst Hussein I've ever heard. Well, that's him behind closed doors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got to be different. Behind closed doors, he's got a beard and he's like, I like this movie. Very good. It's a good movie. You like? Okay. He had a Budweiser in him.
Starting point is 01:21:19 He's got a beer helmet on and like two straws in his mouth. He's like, I like to watch movies. What do you want? What do you want from me? I watch movies. That's hysterical. Yeah. He's an idol.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Everywhere he goes, like if he goes somewhere with lots of people, they surround him. Like he's like a, he's one and all when he's like a celebrity, a celebrity hero over there. In October of 2000, there is a bad boy fashion show. Bad boy like Puff Daddy. Really? Bad boy fashion show in Brazil. It was October of 2000. So Puff Daddy was like making clothes and doing all sorts.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I'm sure he still makes clothes, but whatever. So there's a big, big thing there. There's a fashion show. And who happens to be there was Ryan. And also, Valid Ismail is also there. We know there's going to be problems there. Uh, apparently Ryan snuck up on Ishmael and,
Starting point is 01:22:09 uh, sucker punched him from behind. Uh, so, uh, while he turns around and ends up getting a guillotine choke on him and chokes him out. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:22:19 So he chokes Ryan unconscious, uh, at this point in the middle of a fashion show, which doesn't seem like the place for unconscious chokers. Well, he's probably doing some Sean John. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Where everyone is complimenting Puff Daddy's new jeans. Right. These two are fighting on the floor, choking each other half to death. So, good Lord. At this point, there was actually a fight signed for the two of them, and this fight, there's about three different times where they sign fights and they never happen. They never fight in the ring, these two, which is times where they sign fights and they never happen. They never fight in the ring, these two, which is crazy because they fight out of the ring every time they see each other.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Every time they're in the same room. Every time. December 23, 2000 is Pride 12. Cold Fury is the name of that show. Why do they name a fighting show Pride? They know that that immediately makes us think that it's just all gay guys, right? We have pride and we're going to beat each other silly. I'm going to get them.
Starting point is 01:23:11 It's either all gay guys wrestling, or it's a bunch of white dudes with shaved heads fighting. Either one. Yeah, I think both in this case, probably. Sorry, guys. White shaved heads. And rainbow flags fucking everywhere. They're also very latent. So anyway, this is in Saitama, Japan. Again, he fights Kazushi Sakuraba, who is known as the Gracie Hunter.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Oh, boy. That is his nickname. Really? For good reason, because this is December of 2000. In November of 99, Sakuraba beat Royler Gracie. He beat Royce Gracie in May of 2000, and he beat Rence gracie in may of 2000 and he beat renzo gracie in august of 2000 which brings us to december of 2000 where he's fighting ryan ryan gracie so he's going through the whole clan yeah uh he actually fought mayhem jason miller oh did he 2010
Starting point is 01:23:57 he lost to jason miller this guy sakuraba in 2010 was it on a tv show i don't believe it was were he bullied a seven-year-old first he this he was. Were we bullied a seven-year-old first? He wasn't a bully of a seven-year-old, this guy. This was just straight in the ring. This is one 10-minute round, and it goes the distance. Jesus. They just beat each other for 10 minutes. I can't even imagine.
Starting point is 01:24:17 That's so silly. Fuck. So silly. That's crazy. It's so much. It's so much to fight. 10 minutes straight with no break. With no break. There's a lot. And nobody telling you, listen, you're doing some bad shit out there. You need to do. It's so much to fight. Ten minutes straight with no break. With no break.
Starting point is 01:24:25 There's a lot. And nobody telling you, listen, you're doing some bad shit out there. You need to do this. You need to do this. Do that. And here's some ice for your swollen ass face. Nothing. Just beat each other.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Just go. So it goes the distance. Sakuraba wins by unanimous decision here. So Ryan goes to one and one. Now, at this point, Ryan says he's going to dedicate himself to more training yeah uh he they talk about he doesn't talk about this but he's his life has turned into partying and travel and oh boy the women yeah oh ryan likes the ladies and he's a popular famous guy and they like him wow does he go through a lot of women. Holy shit. The coke, the booze, the fighting, the women.
Starting point is 01:25:06 It's such a fuel for a lot of people in any industry. It's just you do it for the women. It's crazy. He fucking loves it. He had to up his training program, he said. If he didn't train, he wouldn't be able to fight well. The whole deal. Now, here's an odd thing here.
Starting point is 01:25:22 There's a Roxen Gracie. We'll talk about him. When he was 19, this is in February 2001, we're talking about this, but we're going to talk about the year before. At 19, he leaves his parents' house in LA and moves to New York with his girlfriend to try to be a model. So weeks go by and he starts contacting his family less and less. This is a very close family all over the place here. And by the end of January 2001, he'd been gone a month without contact. So Rickson, Gracie, asks his cousin Renzo, who lives in New York and owns a gym there, to find his son. Because he's there down in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:26:01 He's like, find my son in the United States, please. So he's been tasked with finding. There's only 330 million people there. Just find my son in the United States, please. He's been tasked with finding, there's only 330 million people there, just find my son. So he tries to do that. Renzo finds Roxen's girlfriend in Miami, of all places. This is crazy. On February 7th,
Starting point is 01:26:16 she tells Renzo that they split up, and that Renzo goes back to New York City, and now he starts calling hospitals and police stations and trying to find him. He finally finds that he finds through police files. He finds that he figures out that Roxen's arm tattoo that says best father in the world, Rickson Gracie on it. He finds him through there in a morgue.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Oh, boy. He's been dead. He'd been found dead by authorities in December from a drug overdose at the Providence Hotel in Manhattan. Oh, Jesus. So that whole time he's been in New York, his body was then exhumed because they didn't know who he was. So they just put him in a pauper's grave.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Yeah. The hospital. They didn't know. They were like, well, so they had to exhume him. Yeah. They exhumed him and cremated him and they spread his ashes on the beach in Malibu. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. And then that was the inspiration for Zoolander for sure. Yes. That's exactly what happened. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:27:12 So he he realized what's the name? Roxanne. Roxanne realized that. Why are we fighting? We're majestic beasts. We should be modeling. So he went to model and he died. And he died. Unbelievable. The guys punching each other in the streets and biting each other's ear off and stabbing each other in the eye gloves. None of them. They're all fine. They're all fine. This guy dead. So yeah, this Rickson Gracie
Starting point is 01:27:36 was set to fight Sakuraba again. Was set to fight him, the guy that Ryan just fought. And it was supposed to be a very big, big fight, but he cancels the fight and he never fights professionally again, Rickson, after his son died. He said his son's loss was the hardest thing for him to overcome. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He didn't train for almost three years after that. Wow. Didn't even train. He just was done. That's fucking horrific. Just checked out the grief of the whole thing. He couldn't do it, which that's crazy, man. His name was Rickson.
Starting point is 01:28:02 He named his son Roxen. Rickson and Roxen. Jesus. Yeah, it's the names in this people. I'm't do it, which that's crazy, man. His name was Rickson. He named his son Roxen. Rickson and Roxen. Jesus. Yeah, it's the names in this, people. I'm not going to get into that. But his boy had best father in the world is Rickson. On his arm. Tattooed on his arm.
Starting point is 01:28:13 That is so nice. And that's how he was found, too. Jesus. Jesus, it's sad, man. That's brutal. So July 29, 2001 is Pride 15, Raging Rumble, which sounds like Royal Rumble, and it's very confusing. It's a dumb tattoo, by the way, but thank Christ he got a dumb tattoo. Yeah, because otherwise he would be in a pauper's grave.
Starting point is 01:28:30 They never would have found him. He literally looked through books of dead people and said, that tattoo, I recognize that. Well, it's my fucking name. It's crazy. Nuts. Well, it's his brother's name or whatever. Oh, okay. His cousin's name.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Oh, all right. I got you. So he fights. This is in Saitama, Japan. Ryan is fighting Tokumitu. Again, Kendo Kashin Ishizawa, who is 0-1 now. He hasn't fought since the first time Ryan beat him. Really?
Starting point is 01:28:54 But it's a rematch here. Ryan loses by TKO in this fight. Oh, no. Due to an injury. He has an injury at 451 in the first round and loses. Was it just me? It was a leg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:05 It's that knee that's not 100%. You know, I just let it heal. So it acts up sometimes once in a while here. So he's one and two. December 2001, he has a son, though. Okay. It does not name him Junior. No.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Because they all have creativity boiling through them. He named him Rayron. Jesus. One word. What? Rayron. Do we want to name him Ray or Ron? Fuck it. He named him Ray Ron. Jesus. One word. What? Ray Ron. Do we want to name him Ray or Ron? Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Fuck it. Ray Ron. There you go. Ray Ron, which sounds like some kind of Star Trek weapon. Right. Or a Key and Peele sketch. Yes. Fucking Ray Ron.
Starting point is 01:29:38 How do you do that? Jesus Christ, man. So Carnival 2002 down there. There was a rave uh in uh in this town and at this rave ryan gets jumped by a half a dozen uh uh mma students yeah jujitsu students jump him and they're they're on top of him like beating him and one guy's choking him and stuff and uh uh somebody else comes over and convinces the guys to let him go. Now, after first they let him go, he's able to breathe for a second. So immediately he calls over.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Ryan calls over two of the bouncers to help him out. And he says, quote, you guys are with me. You're with me. And then his students arrived after that. And this was a giant melee. And basically there was 20 people fighting in a giant brave in Carnival. Orange juice and ecstasy flying everywhere. Fucking everywhere.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Orange juice and glow sticks. Glow sticks and thong bikinis with asses jumping around. It's insanity down there. Why did they jump him at that place? I don't know. He probably was talking shit. He probably spit on somebody. Somebody said something about you're Ryan Gracie.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And he's like, you're talking shit. And they're like, fuck you. Called somebody a fag for sure. Yeah, you know he called somebody a fag. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. So, yeah, he said, but he ended up leaving pretty much unscathed out of the whole thing, which, of course. He just skates by on everything.
Starting point is 01:30:56 He's nuts. September 29, 2002, at Pride 22, Beasts from the East 2 in Nagoya, Japan. He fights Shungo Oyama, who's 2-3 coming in. His last fight was a win versus Renzo Gracie. All right. That was his last fight, so this is all kind of inner fucking here. So this guy beat Renzo. Ryan wins this fight by submission from an arm bar at 137 in round one.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Wow. So not bad. He goes to two and two. It's at this point, around this point, when the president of the Rio de Janeiro Jiu-Jitsu League, a guy named Mauricio Lima, said that he was attacked by Ryan. Oh, boy. Because of a letter published in a Jiu-Jitsu magazine where this guy apparently accused Ryan's father, Robson, of being prejudiced against homosexuals. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I mean, thus far in this episode, we've got enough evidence of that. I would say. I feel like there's a little skew toward anti-gay in these guys. Apparently, this Mauricio became kind of a hero of the gay culture down there and was given something in a gay magazine. They talked about him and what a big deal it was. But apparently, this pissed Ryan off a lot. Really? This guy, Mauricio, says, quote, I criticized his father and Robson did not retaliate.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I don't get it. At the nightclub, Ryan said I was bad-mouthing his dad and punched me in the chin. I didn't fight back. This is likeclub, Ryan said I was bad-mouthing his dad and punched me in the chin. I didn't fight back. This is like an old man who runs the thing here. Now, Ryan said about this after he learns what Mauricio told the cops. He says, quote, Saddam, which is Mauricio's nickname, what he calls him. Saddam is an amoeba and an idiot. I never said anything about gays.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Only thing is during my TV show, we joked when a guest of the show said that Mark Kerr looked a little feminine. I have nothing against gays. Saddam, for example, has a candid, delicate soul. Now, if he is gay or not is not my business. Oh, my God. Personally, I think homosexualism is an ugly thing. Two hairy men touching each other, ugh. Now, two women having sex is okay with me.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Got nothing against gays. I. Done nothing against gays. I've got nothing against gays. Hey, I'm fine with the gays. Hey, fag, you fucking gross son of a two hairy guy. Balls are touching, it's fucking disgusting. Hey, I want some chicks to make out, though, no problem. He's just a meathead. He is.
Starting point is 01:33:20 He's a fucking meathead. He's a dork. He's just a meathead dipshit is basically what he is. He's a dumb fuckhead. He's a dork. He's just a meathead dipshit is basically what he is. A dumb fuck idiot. He's just like the definition of a jock. And even the way he said that. Now, this guy, Saddam, he's got a candid, delicate soul. If he's gay or not, it's none of my business.
Starting point is 01:33:38 That's not my business. But I'm just saying. I've heard things. Like, what the fuck, man? And how do you say ugh? That shit is hysterical, by the way. Well, that sounded like the gayest thing ever. Two men touching each other. Like that's that's gay.
Starting point is 01:33:54 The only way I could have got gay is if he said, oh, yes. Oh, gross. Gross. Meanwhile, you've got cauliflower ear from rubbing your head on nuts for fucking 12 years. They've got hairy buttholes, though. No. Ew. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Unbelievable. I'm a fucking jerk, man. What a douche. So, October 2003, he's fighting in Pride Bushido 1. This is in Saitama, Japan again. He fights Kazuhiro Hamanaka, who is 1-0 coming in, and he hasn't fought any Gracies. Okay. So, that's amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:23 who is 1-0 coming in, and he hasn't fought any Gracies. So that's amazing. Ryan wins by TKO at 7 minutes and 37 seconds of round one with soccer kicks. Holy shit. Yes, he just soccer kicks, soccer kicks. 37 seconds? 7 minutes and 37 seconds. But he gets him down and just starts kicking the shit out of him because there's no rules here, really.
Starting point is 01:34:39 And so Ryan wins, bringing him to 3-2. This guy never ends up fighting another Gracie again. Probably can't fucking spell Gracie anymore. No, no. But they still fight, though. They'll still fight. Now, 2003, Robin Gracie, who's the youngest of Helio Gracie's sons, who runs Gracie Barcelona, I guess Dojo, whatever the hell, was conducting a seminar in France, which is about an hour
Starting point is 01:35:06 30 drive away from Barcelona. Now, a guy named Damien Riccio, who's a French MMA fighter and a karate black belt, learned of Robin Gracie's presence here in the city. And he uses this opportunity to challenge him. Apparently, there's a Gracie challenge out there. If you want to fight a Gracie, they'll fight you. Usually, challenges are for money or for the honor of the Gracie family, whatever issue. People want challenges.
Starting point is 01:35:33 You can't challenge these guys. You want a piece of the Gracies. Yeah. You challenge them, they're there. So Riccio, this Damian Riccio, shows up uninvited to the seminar and challenges Robin Grace to a valet-tudo match right now. So Robin accepted this, even though he wasn't prepared for it. He had to take off a suit to do this.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah, he was doing something else and he wasn't in fighting shape at the very moment. So Damien ends up winning the fight. So now what ends up happening is the video of the fight went all over the internet and everybody sees it. So Royce Gracie, Robin's older brother, sends Damien Riccio some threatening emails, which are fucking hilarious, by the way, and I have all these emails.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Oh, great. And they are fucking amazing. This is from, Jesus Christ, this is amazing. Oh, my God. So this is Royce sending an email here. Quote, this guy shows up at Robin's seminar and starts to talk shit and wanted to fight Robin. So Robin did. Then fought the guy, punched Robin, and Robin shot in the guy sprawled.
Starting point is 01:36:35 This is a translation too. Robin pulled guard and punched him from the guard. The blood on Robin's shirt from the guy's face. Then the guy's fight stopped. Then the fight stopped. Robin said to the guy that they should set up a time anytime he wants to and have a fight for real. The guy started talking shit about my family
Starting point is 01:36:53 and all the brothers and all the Brazilians saying that they are nothing. I am in Spain right now. I'm going to take care of this motherfucker. Robin invited him to my seminar this weekend so we can have a fight and I will show him what Brazilians are all about. The guy already backed down saying he has to work that weekend, but he will try.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I got to shift. I got to cover. Well, if he don't come, I will see him. That is the story. That's what he sends out to the press. So Damien Riccio replied, for Grice, Gracie, and Rodrigo somebody, I'm Damien Riccio, the guys who challenged your brother Robin during a seminar. My town, Perpiganon in France. You talk very trash about me and something you don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:34 You talk very trash about me and something you don't know. I did what you always did to make your name known. I challenged him very pleasantly and respectfully, and he agrees. He could say no, and I got back, but he accepts smiley and say okay. I got back and let Robin finish his seminar without losing any energy with rolling guys. I came back for fighting, and Robin tapped down after complete domination. So what's the problem? Do you remember one thing, Gracie Challenge?
Starting point is 01:38:04 What can we see in Gracie in action? what's the problem? Do you remember one thing, Gracie Challenge? What can we see in Gracie in action? Where is the problem? The only problem is he accepted and lost in what you claim to be undefeated. Real fight, so I disrespect you and your family and Brazilians. And Brazilians. And Brazilians. Take it easy, man. Fuck everybody.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Fuck these people. Then he goes on to say that Robin was his idol. When he saw Royce and Rickson for the first time, it was like a dream for him. He says, but now they insult him and he disrespected him and he's very surprised. He says, quote, I do not respect you for all your trash talking about me and I am very disappointed by your attitudes. You act like such a bad street fighter and not professional. I know I will crush you. So they're just talking shit basically back and forth.
Starting point is 01:38:49 The whole thing. He says, I can't fight this weekend but my brother Mateus will be happy to kick your ass if you come into my town. I can't make it but I got a guy that can fill in and beat you up if that's okay with you. I got a fill in ass kicker if that's fine. He says, quote, I have a big family like you and and beat you up if that's okay with you. I got a fill-in ass-kicker if that's fine.
Starting point is 01:39:05 He says, quote, I have a big family like you, and we are ready for the war. Sorry for my bad English, which is fucking phenomenal. I love this. That's what he sent out to the press, and then that guy got the email and reply alt. Absolutely. He's, fuck it. So Royce and Rodrigo Gracie reply back. This is great.
Starting point is 01:39:24 This is amazing, man. Royce says, quote, let me tell you something. In Gracie in Action, they came to our school. Gracie in Action is this little documentary thing. Not challenge us in the seminars. And if you saw it, they all got their asses kicked. That is what's going to happen to you and your brothers or anyone else. You want to come and crash seminars, come and crash mine.
Starting point is 01:39:41 I am ready for you and your brothers or anyone else. So, yeah. Then Rodrigo says, you call yourself a professional, walking in the middle of a seminar to fight my cousin unprepared? For me, and you are for me, you are nobody and a pussy. Price is an hour away from you and you already pussy out. All I have to say is
Starting point is 01:40:00 is going to be a surprise party. I saw your fight and checked your background. You really suck, all in capital letters, by the way, that is. If Robin was prepared, you would have been raped. What the fuck? Pride, keep dreaming. This is personal. I'll see the rest of you soon after Robin and Royce break your face.
Starting point is 01:40:18 What the fuck, man? He's, by the way, the most vicious in the email. So that's pretty incredible. Well, it gets worse. So Royce and Robin and some of their students cross the border from Spain to France and they find the bar where Damien's working at in Perpignan, the town, and they go beat him up in his bar. Oh, my God. They go attack him in his bar. Basically, they say that Royce kicked Damien's little
Starting point is 01:40:46 brother to the floor, and Damien fired a gun in the air to end the scuffle. The Gracies fled and went back to Barcelona. Wow. Holy shit. The Damien guy went on to have a little MMA career. He fought in the UK and Japan. Not that great. His brother died in a rock climbing accident.
Starting point is 01:41:02 And Damien was in two serious motorcycle accidents that fucked up his life. So don't fuck with the Gracies. No. It all turns out terrible. But I love that story. They go back and forth. That's hysterical.
Starting point is 01:41:11 They go to the bar he's working. He's not even a fucking professional fighter. This show doesn't have a fucking job. He's literally like, what can I get you? Beer? And so then a bunch of guys come in wanting to kick his ass while he's like, he's just wiping down a glass. Like, I'm on a shift right now.
Starting point is 01:41:25 I'm working on tips. I really can't. This isn't good. And now back to the show. May 23rd, 2004. This is Pride Bushido 3 in Yokohama, Japan. This is Ikuhisa Minowa, whose nickname is Minowa Man, which he just put man at the end of his name. That's literally all he did.
Starting point is 01:41:56 This guy is a career 61 and 42 fighter. He's a fucking- Say that again. 61 and 42. Wow. 103 fights. That's a lot of fights. He's no joke, this guy. He's 23 and 20 coming in. He's a journeyman and 42. Wow. 103 fights. That's a lot of fights. He's no joke, this guy. He's 23 and 20 coming in.
Starting point is 01:42:08 He's a journeyman, but Christ almighty, he sounds like a tough son of a bitch. Yeah, no doubt. This fight goes the distance of two five-minute rounds, and Ryan wins by split decision. Okay. So he's four and two. He's getting a lot of money because he gets paid more than most people. His life is starting to become very cushy. He's got a lot of money because he gets paid more than most people. His life is starting to become very cushy. He's got a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Partying and the women are – That's his bag. Oh, my God. This time he has for training gets less and less because there's so many women and so much money to spend. So he's just – he's having a hard time there. He's having a hard time there. He has periods where he slacks in his training and just kind of gets down with his harem and has women feed him grapes and shit like that. And then he has times where he's like, oh, I got to train, I got to train, I got to train.
Starting point is 01:42:55 So that sort of thing. Because with this, too, he's also has – it's not just training. He has more commitments. He's got to do public things. There's a lot of obligations. Also, the drugs seem to be the worst part. Jesus. Pills a lot. That's his bag?
Starting point is 01:43:08 Well, he likes Coke. He likes pills. Yeah. And he likes booze. Jesus. He likes pills and booze together. I can't do that. Like the wrestlers.
Starting point is 01:43:14 That's too much. Same thing the wrestlers like. They like the painkillers. Right. And then they like a little alcohol until they go to sleep or die half the time. So that ends up- Die in your sleep. Or your heart stops.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Right. One of the two here. People start to notice that he's out of control here. His wife, his friends, his family, his kids even, they try to intervene and go, hey, you're kind of living a little fast here. He said he would also – he would try to quit things himself. Cold turkey. He would go – he would just withdraw for days. He would stop doing everything and then
Starting point is 01:43:45 spend a plan no weeks without taking anything and just basically lock himself in a room to detox himself but then he'd go back to it yeah because he hates hospitals james yeah well that's the thing he just does it in his room right yeah he does he wouldn't check himself into rehab yeah so if his knee is injured and he won't do it he's definitely not doing it here uh so uh he just had a problem here he wanted to do what he wanted to do because he's Ryan and he's fucking crazy. And so anytime anybody tells him you can't snort a bunch of coke and do a bunch of booze and do all this shit,
Starting point is 01:44:11 he's like, okay, so I'm going to go snort a bunch of booze and do a bunch of coke and okay, I'll be back. I'm going to elbow a couple people too. I'm going to elbow strike a few people. I'm on my way to get a rock. I'm going to elbow everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Now, December 31st 2004 is Pride Shockwave 2004 event, Saitama, Japan. He fights Yoji Anjo, who his nickname is Mr. 200%.
Starting point is 01:44:35 A lot of effort. Problem is, his career record is 0-5-1. He should be Mr. Zero winning percentage, would be a better fucking way to put it. Mr. Zero. That's how he should be. That is impressive. It's an impressive record. The fucking stones to call yourself Mr. Zero. He gives effort. That's the thing. Thank Christ you gave
Starting point is 01:44:56 200%, sir. You'll pummel him. Yeah, if he gave 100%, you'd be fucking... His fights wouldn't have lasted a minute. He'd be dead. So, this guy's 0-4-1 coming in, so this is his last fight. No drama or a suspense on how this one played out here. Ryan wins by submission with an arm bar.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Takes him 8 minutes and 33 seconds to do it, but he's 5-2 now. And now we have another issue here. This is a guy we're going to talk about named Jorge Patino, who's a teacher, a jujitsu teacher. This happened in Sao Paulo here.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Now, these guys had apparently jawed in the past because Ryan fucking fights with everybody. And apparently there was an event where one of this Jorge Patino students fought. And we'll let Jorge explain. And he says, quote, my student won his fight. When I was taking him to the dressing room, he was approached by the media. So I left him and kept walking to the room. I had to pass through the crowd where there were students from the Gibby Thai Academy and from Gracie Sao Paulo, which is Ryan's team.
Starting point is 01:45:59 They told me I couldn't get through, and as soon as I asked why, someone hit me from my back. Oh, boy. When I turned, it was Ryan. Of course it was. And I didn't think twice. I hit him with a jab and a hook, which left him dizzy. He still came forward, so I hit him again.
Starting point is 01:46:12 So this is another fight he's starting for no reason. In public. Because they've had words in the past. For no money. This guy's busy, too. He's got students. He's not here to fight you. And again, no fucking money.
Starting point is 01:46:24 What are you doing? There's no benefit in this. No. He's got students. He's not here to fight you. And again, no fucking money. What are you doing? There's no benefit in this. No, it's so stupid. September 17th, 2005, Ryan has an issue in the streets here. He's charged with physically assaulting a police officer, cursing a deputy, and resisting arrest. arrest. According to them here, around 3 a.m., he drove at a high rate of speed
Starting point is 01:46:46 and screeched out in front of the police station, which I don't know why the fuck he would do that. That's his, I'm going to out in front of the police station. It's ridiculous. Apparently, there's other officers who were dealing with another occurrence. They were busy, but he
Starting point is 01:47:03 squeals his tires and now they've got his attention. So they came over to talk to him, and he refused to get out of the car and told the cops to go fuck themselves and called them fags. Of course he did. They took umbrage with that, as you might imagine. Yeah, so they drag him out of the car. He called cops fags. Get out of the car. He called cops fags. Get out of the car.
Starting point is 01:47:26 No, fag. That's not going to happen. They're going to drag you out of the car at that point. So, wow. Yeah, they would have shot him in America. Thank you. So much stuff he does. Shot in America.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Dead. So they drag his ass out of the car. They pull him against his will. He was supposed to wait at the police station sitting there. And so they put him on a bench. Yeah. And so he lifts the bench up and gets himself out of the bench by lifting the bench up and then head butts a policeman. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Reginaldo de Souza Freitas, who suffered a cut and bruises and had to be taken to the hospital for it. He also curses at at one of the lawyers there, Giselle Tobias, curses at her, calls her all sorts of fucking names. So then he's finally handcuffed, and he's indicted for contempt of authority, resisting arrest, willful bodily injury, and drunkenness. That's what I did, because he
Starting point is 01:48:17 was hammered driving at a high rate of speed. There was no endgame in that, like escaping? He just wanted to fucking fight the cops. Yeah, he wanted to fight the cops. He saw cops and he was like, fucking assholes. I'm going to get out of the car and fight them. Lift the bench to undo myself. And then headbutt another cop.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Wow. And they didn't shoot him, which is amazing. Barrett Robbins was like, you lucky son of a bitch. In America, you're catching three. You're catching three. Rightfully so in this case. You can't go into the police station and start throwing benches around headbutting people. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Holy shit here. So they were actually police requested a medical expert to try to figure out what's wrong with Ryan. He's not normal and we need to figure this shit out. Is it just drunk or is he crazy too? Which one? Now October 27, 2005. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:49:02 It's a Sunday and he's at the home of his sister Fl Flavia, and he ends up in intensive care that night because he shot himself in the leg. Wow. That's his story, that he shot himself in the leg. We don't know if someone shot him in the leg or what the hell happened. Flavia had had enough. Yeah, exactly. His father, Robeson, said that it was an accident. Ryan accidentally shot himself while handling a firearm and putting it back into a closet. Flavia's husband's a police officer and said that the weapon was hidden under a towel and there was some kind of confusion and he shot himself by accident. Robeson said, quote, the bullet went into his femur and caused a lot of bleeding.
Starting point is 01:49:44 In another 10 minutes, he would have died if he hadn't gotten to the hospital. My Christ. He had to have immediate emergency surgery and a blood transfusion and they didn't know. At the time, they said we don't know what's going to happen to his leg or whether he'll be able to, when he'll be able to leave the hospital. He was in stable
Starting point is 01:49:59 condition. They didn't know if he'd ever be able to fight again. Thank God for that hospital, huh, Ryan? You fuckface. Yeah, no shit. He says he accidentally shot himself in the leg while reaching into a closet in his sister's house, which that seems- That doesn't make any fucking sense. Seems like he went out in the street and got in a fight and got shot in the leg. Sort of sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Or his sister shot him in the leg or something. Fabian had him fucking knocked. Enough of this shit. So June 2nd, 2007, his brother Royce finally beats Kazushi Sakuraba. So finally a Gracie beats this goddamn guy. Had to put that in there. Now, December 14th, 2007. This is when he goes off completely off the fucking deep end.
Starting point is 01:50:37 That was the Gracie Hunter. That was the Gracie Hunter. You beat him finally. So at this point, this is nuts here. He's arrested, Ryan is, for a whole bunch of shit. Basically, he's in a neighborhood in Sao Paulo. It's a nice neighborhood. It's where he lives.
Starting point is 01:50:52 He's accused of robbing, of carjacking and assaulting a 76-year-old man. Why? In this area, okay? What the fuck are you doing, man? He was arrested. He used a kitchen knife. Oh, boy. To assault this person and to take a Toyota Corolla.
Starting point is 01:51:05 You stole a Corolla? Ridiculous. Apparently. That guy would have given it to you. Yeah, here you go. Especially as you're coming up all crazy. Dude, I'm sorry it's a Corolla. This poor 76-year-old man was coming out of his house when Ryan comes up on him, assaults him,
Starting point is 01:51:20 knocks him down, and had a kitchen knife in his hand. Jesus. And stole his car. So he steals the car, Ryan does, hits a payphone on the sidewalk and crashes the car in a wall. He can't even drive away. He stole the car for 500 feet of mayhem. Of mayhem after carjacking a 76-year-old man with a kitchen knife, which makes no sense. So he's apprehended by the police because he crashed.
Starting point is 01:51:46 He crashed the car before the 76-year-old got up to his feet. Yeah, he was probably still, what happened? Crash. Ah, shit, my car. God damn it. Fuck. That was my Corolla, you dick. What a dick.
Starting point is 01:51:56 I'm still making payments on that. I got two years worth of payments on that. God damn it. I was paying for that with my fucking backwards mortgage or whatever they call that shit. Reverse mortgage. That's it. It's hard to get Toyotas in brazil it's like a mercedes down there so uh the police get him they apprehend him but as they're getting him in the car getting ready to go they get an
Starting point is 01:52:16 emergency call for like a some a situation going on with like a shooting or a big accident or something so they let him go oh my god they God. They're like, lucky day, pal. We got some more important shit to do. Even though this man just carjacked an elderly man with a kitchen knife. Gotta let you go. And then crashes the car right now. And they let him go. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:52:37 How many cops do they have in Sao Paulo? Not enough. Like seven. Not enough, let's just say. Not enough to handle two things at once. Because this guy needs to be taken off the street right now. He's a menace. And you could say that.
Starting point is 01:52:51 He'd go, oof, bad day. Shit, all right, I got off lucky. I'm going to go home. No, he doesn't try to go home. He tries to carjack another car. Another one. Immediately. Like the cops are driving away.
Starting point is 01:52:59 He still sees their lights going. He just tries to carjack the nearest car. The next car. And the driver somehow manages to knock it out of the car and to drive away and escape him, which is terrific. Yeah. But do you think he's done? No. Do you think then he gave up?
Starting point is 01:53:10 Where's the next car? Let go by the cops. This guy got away. Eh, fuck it. I'll go home. Nope. He then found a motorcycle courier. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Which there's a shitload of them and like a moped. And he goes and gets his knife again and goes up to this motorcycle guy, moped guy, and threatens him with the knife. He says, quote, get off the biker or I'll kill you. So now he's threatening people with death to steal their property. This is not okay. He then tries to escape on the motorcycle. But there was a shitload of other motorcycle couriers that surrounded him with their mopeds. He had nowhere to go. couriers that surrounded him with their mopeds and attacked him and held him down by that.
Starting point is 01:53:50 This was also because as he was trying to ride away, the guy who he stole it from hit him in the head with his motorcycle helmet. He tried to get away. This guy comes up, cracks him in the back of the head with the motorcycle helmet. He grabs his head for half a second. Everybody else jumps on and subdues him. So he's being beaten by just teeming groups of motorcycle couriers. head for half a second. Everybody else jumps on and subdues him. So he's being beaten by just teeming groups of
Starting point is 01:54:08 motorcycle couriers. They must have a union. Jesus. Apparently. Well, this is like, what was it? Joey Barton with the cab drivers all got him and fucking kept him at bay. It's the same thing. They're called moto boys, the motorcyclists. And they took the kitchen knife away from him and held him there until the police got
Starting point is 01:54:24 him, which I think is hilarious. So he got cracked in the head with a goddamn motorcycle helmet, which is funny as fuck. So he's arrested and taken in. They request a toxicological examination. They're like, I feel like something's amiss or skew. So, you know, he's been arrested for stabbing people. He's done a bunch of crazy shit. So let's just see what the fuck is wrong with him.
Starting point is 01:54:45 So now he's sitting in there. They're taking his drug test. He's got to be like, well, first of all, I mean, Christ almighty, he hasn't been able to be held before. Like he escapes and they go and they collect. Lucky dude. But now after that night, too, now at the end, you tried to rob three different people. You tried to rob an old man with a knife and he got away. So that's got to feel like, whew, got away with that one.
Starting point is 01:55:07 And now you have a headache. Right. You got hit in the head with a motorcycle helmet. Likely shackled this time. I would think. And you have to start trying to calm down a little bit at this point. And you're losing your fucking mind. And he's like just losing his shit.
Starting point is 01:55:20 They're coming to take his blood test. And he's like, oh, fuck, they're going to take my blood test. And a guy comes in. and it's not the doctor though. It's Paul Calhoun, shit pipe enthusiast. And he says... How is it you come to arrive here, huh? What are you doing? What happened to your shit
Starting point is 01:55:44 pipes? Hey, guy, let me ask you a question. How them shit pipes coming? What's clogging them up to arrive here? Huh? What are you doing? What happened to your shit pipes? Hey, guy, let me ask you a question. How them shit pipes coming? What's clogging them up? Booze? Coke? What? Look, look, I got a new thing.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Tell me what you think here. Tell me what you think, by the way, because you're a small business owner, you know what I mean? You're a small business owner and you're pretty successful. Outside of trying to rob people and shit like that, you're pretty successful. So let me ask you a question, all right? Let me tell you what you think. Obviously, I clean your shit pipes to smack your wife. That's the thing I got to do, right?
Starting point is 01:56:09 I clean up your shit, kick a guy in the dick. That's a new one now. But now, so that's a thing. That covers your spouses and that sort of thing. But what if you got bad kids? You got bad kids. I'll also knock your kids around too. That's my new special.
Starting point is 01:56:22 I'll dig up your yard, punch your kids pretty hard. That's good, right? Dig up your yard, punch your kid pretty hard. Because you don, right? Dig up your yard, punch your kid pretty hard. You know, because you don't want to hit them too hard. They're kids. You know what I mean? But I'll smack them. I'll give them a good back of my hand.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Anyway, you get your shit together. Call me if your kids get out of line, I guess. I'll smack them around your wife. You seem to have that covered. But it's all right. Have a good one. And poof, in a cloud of shit pipes, Paul Calhoun disappeared. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:56:45 He's a good business model, that Paul Calhoun. Yeah, I like it. He keeps working on the marketing. Take your yard, punch your kid pretty hard. Yeah, dig up your yard, punch your kid pretty hard. That's, you know, it's smart. You know? Right. He's trying to cover everybody.
Starting point is 01:56:54 It's like, you don't want just the guys to call, just the women. Maybe kids are shitty, too. Kick a guy in the dick, right. Kick a guy in the dick, I'll punch your kid pretty hard, smack your wife, you know. Cover it all. He spends a lot of time on the marketing. I think that's important with a small business. It's what a lot of people don't do. Especially with small, right. That's the all. He spends a lot of time on the marketing. I think that's important with a small business. It's what a lot of people don't do.
Starting point is 01:57:07 That's the thing. He's got to do it. And the market's so oversaturated with plumbers. It really is. You've got to set yourself apart. You've got to stand out from the pack. So after a toxicology request, after Paul Calhoun leaves, a real guy comes in, and they reveal a number of drugs in his system.
Starting point is 01:57:23 And they revealed a number of drugs in his system. He's test positive for cocaine, marijuana, and two. What? Coke, weed, and two different anti-anxiety prescription drugs in his body at the same time. Not great here. That's a chemical imbalance for sure. He's got a lot of stuff going on here. And that's why that makes you rob old men at knife point.
Starting point is 01:57:44 He needed to calm down, let's say. He's in here freaking out. So once he's detained, his wife calls a psychiatrist, Dr. Sabino Ferriera de Faria. We'll call him Sabino. Sure. To administer care to him and to fucking calm him down. Dr. Sabino here ends up getting a cocktail of medication and spent the night kind of hanging out with Ryan and ended up injecting him with this cocktail of drugs, which was Haldol, which is an antipsychotic. Phenergan, Topamax, Dynpex, which are all tranquilizers. My God.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Omniplex, which is a relaxant. And another report also said that he had midazolam, alprazolan, prometazina, clozapine, and haloperidol in his system. Okay. So he's given this cocktail. That sounds like a lot of shit here. Okay. To calm him the fuck down. Yeah, that should do it. Yeah, it's almost like a movie where there's like a gorilla going crazy and someone's like, get the track dart.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And they hit him with it. He's like, oh, okay. Right in the neck. That's what's going on here. It's like the end of Trading Places. Yeah. It's one of those things. This is so many fucking drugs, though.
Starting point is 01:59:00 So many drugs, right? It takes all of that to chill him out. To chill him the fuck out to where he's not trying, he's not calling people a fag and trying to stab them. You know, it's like, that's what it takes. So the next morning at 7 a.m., he came in, this was about 3 o'clock in the morning. At 7 a.m.
Starting point is 01:59:16 they're doing cell checks all around to look for these guys and Gracie Ryan is found slumped over, dead in his jail cell. Oh my god! He's dead. Fucking dead. He's dead. Fucking dead. He's fucking dead. That's a chill pill. That's a chill pill, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Wow. He is dead. Yeah. Initial reports state that his death was a product of interactions between the illegal drugs in the system and the prescription medications he was administered. The investigator said that it was a combination of the drugs doled out by his doctor rather than the interaction with the cocaine that caused his death. So they're blaming the doctor. The doctor, Sabino here, defended himself, saying the regimen of drugs he administered
Starting point is 01:59:55 was not abnormal. He says, quote, for 31 years, I have treated patients who use marijuana, alcohol, and cocaine and use these medications exactly at that level. So he says he did fine. But it's not fine. Everyone who reviews this, what he gave to Ryan, all say that this isn't normal. There's a Brazilian show, Fantástico, which is a great name for a show. It sounds like that's what their show would be.
Starting point is 02:00:22 A psychiatrist on there was saying that – was disputing what he did. He said, quote, the thing you will notice is the amount of drugs used at the same time. One interacts with the other, which can increase the number of side effects. In this case, especially the heart. The heart may start to knock off the pace, beat more seriously, and it can lead to cardiac arrest. And that's what it ended up being was a cardiorespiratory failure on him. Now, the doctor. Michael Jackson's doctor.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Pretty much. Same type of deal. He is accused. The doctor is accused of negligence on this whole thing, like legally accused of negligence or considering bringing up manslaughter charges. Wow. Quote, I am distressed and anxious because of this report. It is sad because I went there to save lives. The doctor says his sister. He did, by the way. He saved there to save lives, what the doctor says. His sister.
Starting point is 02:01:05 He did, by the way. He saved a bunch of lives. He saved a lot of people. Old men, motorcyclists, tons of lives. Saved a shitload of lives. Saved everyone a lot of trouble. Flavia Gracie, Ryan's sister, blames a psychiatrist. She says that it's all these different drugs.
Starting point is 02:01:23 A specialist said, quote, cocaine is a very powerful and dangerous drug. Who was that? Rick James said that? Yeah, it's a very powerful, it's a hell of a drug. Its effect on the heart can cause a cardiac arrest, especially when you put a bunch of other shit with it. So he had consumed painkillers and other things, and they say that anti-anxiety drugs can interfere with a person's cardiac rhythm, no matter how young or apparently healthy,
Starting point is 02:01:49 especially if you mix Coke and who knows what the fuck else you have in the system and all this type of shit. They didn't wait. He didn't wait to go, okay, let's see how this all reacts. He's like, I got a file. Just wrap him up. He'll be fine here. Yeah. So it's nuts, man.
Starting point is 02:02:00 The whole thing's crazy. It's six types of drugs. They said he administered between 2 and 5 p.m. Jesus. And also three capsules of Haldol, which was the haloperidol. It's the same thing. It's the antipsychotic, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:11 And it's used to treat certain mental moods and disorders like schizophrenia and things like that. Side effects are dizziness, drowsiness, difficulty urinating, sleep disturbances, headache, and anxiety. I mean, but yeah, but with those side effects come no fucking crazy. So who gives a shit? Yeah. This is, the caution is advised for effects on the heart. Yeah. So yeah, it says if you're, it can reduce sweating, so you're more likely to get a heat
Starting point is 02:02:37 stroke if you're like doing shit outside, stuff like that. So the fighter, the family of him insists that he should have been medically supervised and shouldn't have been jailed without being medically supervised. Well, they shouldn't have just been sticking needles in him full of shit. His father, Robson, at the wake said, quote, he was running away from himself the entire time. We tried to set up meetings with a psychologist, but he refused to receive treatment. My son is resting now, sleeping after living intensely for his 33 years. Despite making some mistakes, Ryan was a warrior.
Starting point is 02:03:08 He was a knight in search of an adventure, a hero in the ring. My son is a champion, and his spirit will remain. Yes, so he is 33, by the way, when he dies. Remember what he said when he was a kid? By 33? You got it, pal. Right on your birthday, sir. Right on it, big guy.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Yeah, Renzo said about this, the brother about his death, quote, there was one story that took me 30 days to learn the story because I would only hear it in parts. Each part was told by a different person. It was a crazy night where he was arrested twice in one night and was so lucky that as the cops arrested him, they had an emergency call and kicked him out of the car twice. Wow. So he was so lucky. He wasn't lucky. Maybe he would have him out of the car twice. Wow. So he was so lucky. He wasn't lucky.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Maybe he would have been better off the first time. His cause of death is not drugs, by the way. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. Crazy is the cause of this death. He had a crazy night, and it ended up death. And it ended up with death. Right.
Starting point is 02:04:01 So Renzo says, quote, even though he died at 33 years of age, you have to understand, a man's life is not measured by the time he lives. It's measured by the intensity that he lived. I could sit here and tell you 10 hours of stories that I know of Ryan. You have to understand, he never let the best stories get to me because I was like the father figure, so all the stories would get to me in small doses. The other day, I opened a Brazilian Playboy magazine magazine and they had a selection of all the covers. I saw five girls there that he dated.
Starting point is 02:04:28 All the women he ever wanted, he found a way to get with them. Wow. Every person that he loved, he told them and he loved them. And every person that he had a chance to fight with, he did. When he died, he was 150 years old. I'm 42 right now
Starting point is 02:04:43 and I will never be able to live as much as he did. Fair. Fair enough. That's an unbelievable statement about this guy. That's about right. That's fucking crazy. And you don't need 10 hours of stories. We got enough in two.
Starting point is 02:04:55 Yeah, we got plenty here. This is plenty. This is plenty. So February 2007, they are questioning the psychiatrist, the Sabino guy here, that the investigator, lead investigator Roberto Calaca Vieira, they all have three names, said that the doctor should be indicted for manslaughter. Now, Rayron, his kid, begins fighting now, too. Oh, boy. Rayron said that he didn't like jujitsu when he was little because he was a little fat kid, and he didn't like to sweat in the gi, and he thought it was boring. Go on.
Starting point is 02:05:29 He said in the Gracie family, everyone has a gi waiting for them before they're born. Jesus. I remember being a small kid, and my grandmother, my aunt, they were all saying I could choose if I wanted to fight jujitsu or MMA, but I would have to train with a champion in each sport. I think it was important in my evolution, not only as an athlete, but as a person as well, because things I've learned inside and outside of the mat. So they train the son properly.
Starting point is 02:05:52 He just turned six when his dad died, which is brutal. In 2010, he says, quote, my family didn't tell me he died for two months, and I only knew the cause of death three years later on YouTube. I was too young. It was just a week after my sixth birthday, but it was tough because he was famous. So my friends would come and ask me. It was complicated. He left a family that took care of me like no one else could have done. But I tell you, I've learned how to get over the pain of growing up without a father. That would be a lie. So he's having a hard time. He says he has a hard time with other kids. He sees he would see them with their fathers and he would be a lie so he's having a hard time yeah uh he says he has a hard time with other kids he sees he would see them with their fathers and he would have a tough time it was like a completely
Starting point is 02:06:28 imagine your dad died that's so i feel bad for this fucking kid i can't imagine that's tough for him because his dad was out living a crazy life anyway he probably saw the best sides of his dad i'm sure he did and i'm sure he saw him fighting and spitting and calling people fag a lot too so i worry for this kid. He did that. Fuck, man. The kid, his whole family, his brothers. I feel bad for his brothers, too, because they were like, he was the fun one, and they encouraged it, and now they must feel guilty. And, you know, all of these fucking, his wife must have, he had a wife.
Starting point is 02:06:58 I mean, he's going out with Brazilian Playboy models. She's got to find out that after his death that dad saw these Playboy models that he banged. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do. I feel bad for all these people, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Ryan Gracie, a media and retail marketing and digital strategy guy in Melbourne, Australia. He works for the Catch Group currently. He was a consultant at Funtastic Limited.
Starting point is 02:07:24 He went to the University of Wollongong, which sounds completely made up. Yeah, it does. That sounds like where Willy Wonka sends the Oompa Loompas to get trained. That's Loompa Land. You're going to Wollongong, everyone. And they're like, ooh.
Starting point is 02:07:41 So, yes, that's poor Ryan Gracie. I feel super, super bad for him. Is that the only one? That's the only one. There's another one in New Zealand also, but I couldn't – Could be the same guy. It might be.
Starting point is 02:07:51 That's why I didn't put him in because he might be the same guy. They were both just kind of random-looking white dudes and I couldn't really tell. A little hair difference. They could look like different people. November 14, 2012, the doctor, Dr. Sabino Ferreira de Farias, is actually condemned by the court of his actions, of him being found dead, Ryan being found dead, of him prescribing the cocktail of six different drugs. He is given a sentence of one year and four months of community service. Wow. And a fine of 250 Brazilian.
Starting point is 02:08:27 That seems fucking not steep at all. No. That's a very light sentence. As well as a fine of 250 Brazilian minimum monthly salaries. What is that? I don't know if that's. 250 people's salaries? I guess the minimum monthly salary in Brazil, like whatever the minimum wage is, that times 250 apparently.
Starting point is 02:08:46 That's a really weird way to make a – That's bizarre. This is to be paid to Ryan Gracie's dependents. This is to be paid to his children and wife and all that sort of thing. So did they like figure like what he could have lived to and then so you give them minimum wage of that salary per month? I suppose. And that's to like – 250?
Starting point is 02:09:02 minimum wage of that salary per month. I suppose. And that's to like- Maybe he would have worked 250 more months in his life and they're trying to give something back to the family. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, I don't- That's so weird. It's so weird, man.
Starting point is 02:09:14 But they said he can still appeal this. Ryan's sister, Flavia, is pissed off. Oh, sure. She writes an open letter to the press saying, quote, fortunately, after more than five years and a daily struggle to prove the culpability of this irresponsible hack who calls himself a doctor. She called him a hack. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 02:09:31 We have reached the end of a major battle. Quote, and in quotes, she puts, Dr. Sabino was condemned for manslaughter, negligence, imprudence, and malpractice. He will perform community service. I realize it's a light sentence given how he has he has taken a life but we feel victorious for having proved him an irresponsible person we thus hope to prevent him from committing further crimes and devastating the lives of other families you sir may fuck off that's a fuck off brian didn't
Starting point is 02:10:00 get one this guy got one his punishment wasn't handed down by the judge. It was handed down by, was it Flavia? Flavia? Flavia, yeah. Flavia. She told it out. Oh, man. She asked that the psychiatrist lose the right to exercise his profession. She says, quote, we only know the cases against medical errors only increase, but that impeachment is rare. My brother Ryan is not an isolated fact in the career of Dr. Sabino, who has already been involved in several reports to the MP and tragic events in his clinic.
Starting point is 02:10:33 So now they're saying this is a pattern. This is a fucking pattern. Gregor Gracie. Of course. Gregor Gracie. And an MMA fighter named Raphael Barbosa. And three other men were arrested in the early morning hours of Sunday, May 18th, after a huge bar brawl in New York. Good Christ. Apparently, according to witnesses, Gracie arrived at the club with all these guys and immediately went to the front of the line and then got in an altercation with the bouncer. Yeah. They said, get the fuck to the back of the line. We're not on the list. They said, look at us. We back of the line. We're not on the list. They said, look at us.
Starting point is 02:11:06 We're on the list. Things escalated, and apparently this whole group squares off with the whole group of bouncers. And apparently, according to a witness, Gracie at one point had the doorman in a full mount, while another one in his group hit a different bouncer with a construction cone. Holy shit. Which I would pay to watch that. That sounds hilarious.
Starting point is 02:11:24 The fray gets spilled into the street. By the way, those construction cones fucking hurt. They're fucking heavy. They're hard rubber. And that base at the bottom, you get hit with that, it'll knock you out. It'll fucking do it. So this spills into the street with a big brawl. The police end up showing up and arresting everybody.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Just everybody. While in an ambulance came the bouncer that Gracie was fighting had a broken arm. No one could figure out why they were mad, the Gracie group. Why they wanted to fight the bouncers just for doing their jobs, but they were apparently pissed off. This bouncer had a broken arm.
Starting point is 02:11:57 He says that he didn't do shit. He doesn't understand it. The victim's a guy named Craig Molesfini had a fractured right arm along with bruises and cuts. According to the New York Post, it said, quote, all seven men were fighting, doing MMA moves on the guards, some of whom were injured. In my entire 14-year career, I have never seen anything like this. This is from a cop. That must have been fun to watch.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Doing MMA moves. Doing MMA moves on these people. Now, Gracie said that he never hit this guy. He said, quote, when I was going to start beating him up, he said to me, why are you doing this? I don't know you. Why are you beating me up? You have to understand one thing. In my life, I promise that I'll never hit someone who chickened out.
Starting point is 02:12:40 And the guy chickened out. I couldn't hit him. So he says, he was too big of a pussy to hit. Yeah. He says, quote, I was in jail for two days laughing, enjoying every moment. I had a great time, to be honest. Loved it. He said it was terrific. All right. There was everybody. He had his he didn't want to be the first to be bailed out because he wanted to be with his crew. He said, quote, I couldn't leave them. It was my fault they were in there. I was the one who lost the temper. I lost the temper with a reason. And why am I going to leave the
Starting point is 02:13:06 kids in there? Because he had his students and all that sort of shit. So March 5th 2016 or March 6th 2015, Renzo takes a plea deal copping to a misdemeanor assault and gets a sentence of 10 to 15 days of community service. He'll do no jail time for this whole thing.
Starting point is 02:13:22 April 1st 2015. For breaking a man's arm. For breaking a man's arm in the street. Wow. For no reason, just for being a dickhead. April 1st, 2015, Royce Gracie gets a letter from the IRS saying that he and his wife have notice of delinquency claiming they owe $657,114 in back taxes and $492,835.25 in penalties for civil fraud. Wow. So it's been a lot.
Starting point is 02:13:47 That's a million dollars. It's been a lot. Now, Rayron has been fighting. He said he's ready to go. He became a blue belt and everything and was fighting. He won the IBJJF World Championship in California. Good for you, Rayron. He says, quote, there's always this feeling that maybe you didn't do your best, and that
Starting point is 02:14:04 motivates me even more. He said, quote, I started to train hard and won the world's winning. My first world championship was wonderful, but I hope there's plenty more to come. I can't wait for that black belt. Yeah. So he's doing that. Ryan Gracie, the topology worldwide rankings topology website ranks him as the number 71 greatest MMA grappler of all time. Of all time.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Of all time is Ryan Gracie. Can't get enough, Ryan Gracie? My Christ. Jesus Christ. Can't get enough. eBay, you can get the Pride 15 official program with Gracie pummeling Sakuraba on the cover. Yeah. $99.95 plus $8 shipping and handling, which seems like a lot.
Starting point is 02:14:46 That's steep. Also, Poshmark.com has multiple t-shirts featuring Ryan and other parts of the Gracie family and all this shit. Bunch of t-shirts starting at $4. Oh, that's not bad. So not too shabby. You can get your Gracie gear there. This crazy son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Holy shit. What a goddamn crazy clan of nutcases. That was a tough one. You had to go back and really find these crazies and dig them up and not easy, but fuck what a fun story that was. If you like that story, I have a suggestion of what you can do. Why don't you go to iTunes? Give us five stars. That
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Starting point is 02:15:48 Beautiful. Really? You go to that site, shut up and give me murder.com and you can find everything from there and you don't need all the rest of this shit that we're talking about. Uh, if you want to do, uh,
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Starting point is 02:16:16 Every week. Chrissy Ann Costaldi, Jess Lanyon. She's the damn best. Thank you, guys. And then Sarah Gilbo has been fantastic. Thank you so much, Sarah. You guys are – Every week they send something over to us.
Starting point is 02:16:26 So thank you, guys. You're really incredible, honestly. All of you. Pierce DeCourcy. DeCourcy. DeCourcy. It's Courcy. I'm pretty sure of it.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Stacey Roy. Bonnie – Jesus, are you shitting me? K-R-Z. I just pronounced Brazilian names for the last two hours. You're going to complain to me? I get no sympathy out of you. Not today. Bonnie Kriznaric.
Starting point is 02:16:45 That's a tough one. You don't get to put K-R-Z. There are two vowels in a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9-letter name. That's some Eastern European shit right there. Yeah, there's C's and C's. I don't know. That's a brutal one. That's tough, brother.
Starting point is 02:16:57 Jordan with no last name. Janie Ingersoll. Tia Alswin. Richard Lovell. Renee with no last name. Jesse Hollywood Hartman. I believe that's a joke, but thank you, Jesse. I likell. Renee with no last name. Jesse Hollywood Hartman. I believe that's a joke, but thank you, Jesse. I like it.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Yeah, I dig it. That's Hollywood Henderson. Yeah, exactly. Lindsey Greer. Jacob Brahalba. He donated twice. Thank you so much, Jacob. Aaron Johnson.
Starting point is 02:17:16 Teresa Schufenplug. God damn it. I love that. You did okay. I think I got it. If you say it confidently, I feel like it helps. I don't know why. I feel like they go, all right, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:25 Confidence is the key for everything. It really is. It really is. It pays off. Teresa Schuschenflug donated both through Patreon and PayPal. So thank you. Oh, wow. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Appreciate it, Teresa. Adam Wesley Etheridge, Jennifer Apel, Chuck Brookman, the Awkward Human. I'm not sure what that is. I like the name. Yeah. Good for you, man. Brookman the Awkward Human. I'm not sure what that is.
Starting point is 02:17:43 I like the name. Yeah. Good for you, man. Brandy Finley. Sarah Dubuque. Shane Sankey. Steve Hugley. Tamara.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Tamara. Tamara. Tamara. It's two ways you can say it. Sometimes it's said Tamara. Yeah, sometimes. Strumminger. That's her name. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Tamara. Tamara. It's not a Pamela situation. No, it's not. Tamara. That one goes both ways. Sabrina Atkinson. Kathy Oxen, Oxen Reader? Oxen Reader.
Starting point is 02:18:09 Oxen Reader. Yeah. She got that name. Her family back in the day read to oxens. Maybe, but it's R-E-I-T-E-R. Could be Oxen Writer. She wrote about him. She wrote about him.
Starting point is 02:18:20 That's nice. The oxen this time of year are beautiful. Wrote oxen poetry. I feel like the coach in Rookie of the Year where he called that kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The oxen rider sounds like something he would have called him. It does, yeah, yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 02:18:33 Maria Chafin and Mike Litoris, which you're an asshole for that. Yeah, yeah, we know that. You uncreative fuck. It's cute. It's very cute. Thank you for the cash. Mike Litoris. I like it. He'll be Mike Hunt next time. It's very cute. Thank you for the cash. Mike Litteris. I like it.
Starting point is 02:18:46 He'll be Mike Hunt next time. Make my wife crazy. Laura Brewer. Lisa McGinnis. Ezra Grimes. Broke College Student Food blog. I'm not sure what that blog is. Check it out.
Starting point is 02:18:58 Go read it. Broke College Student Food. Natalie Hodson. Maggie or Maggie. It's M-A-G-I-E. That's Maggie, right? It's Maggie. It could be Maggie. Maggie Perry, Kelly Walsh, Grantham Williams, Claire Donovan, Ben Larson, Becky DH, Chantrese Barnes, CJ19, John sure, don't know what that is. John Brunson, Kristen Walea, I think so. Heather, fuck, you don't get to do this.
Starting point is 02:19:35 Heather Desermo, Desermo, Pierce. Just take Pierce, Heather. It's a much easier one. You're like, what the fuck? Tiffany Robertson, who's the one who went to Detroit with us. Yeah. And she couldn't get into whatever. We handled her ticket situation. She upped her donation this week.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Thank you so much. It was great to meet you, too, by the way. Yeah, for sure. Diane Story, Martin Coronado Jr. You're going to be problems, I'm sure of it. Kaylee Gallagher, Jessica Sharp, Melissa Small, Kieran Blackwood, Janice Hill, Syle Cole, or Syle, S-Y-L, S-Y-L, Syle, Syle, fuck. Kelly Edmonds, Jana Fields, Cody Drought, or Drought, Drought.
Starting point is 02:20:11 Holly Ebb, Lonnie Hall, and then Veronica Stewart donated this week. Thank you, Veronica. No, no, it's Veronica Swift. She has been donating. She sent me a message. That's what it was. Oh, okay. I've got the message from her.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Yes, yes. I'll take care of it. Thank you, Veronica. I've got the message from her. Yes, yes. I'll take care of it. Thank you, Veronica. I get this. Laura and Joe that came to the Boston shows in the UK. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're the dentists. Oh, they were great.
Starting point is 02:20:31 They're fantastic. They were so cool, man. It was so nice to hang out with those people and make fun of American culture. They were so polite. We facilitated his penis touching her, and that's fantastic. They met because they worked together and they brought up. It's amazing. They both listened to the show.
Starting point is 02:20:45 I love the fact that they were so polite. They didn't want to say anything. So sweet. I go, everybody's really fucking fat here, aren't they? They just went, they're relaxing. They said, I didn't want to say anything. Everything here they were smoking. They go, even the cigarettes
Starting point is 02:21:02 taste like there's sugar in them. Everything. And I said, have you seen a Big Gulp yet? And they went, oh, my God. Do people really put soda in those cups? And we said, yes, they do. Like a popcorn tub full of fucking soda. Because we're fat gluttonous pigs. Wait until you get a load of Cinnabon.
Starting point is 02:21:17 And we were in Boston, which is not the thinnest city also. It was like, look around. No offense, Boston. But you guys know how to eat there. You got good food. That's why. Jason Fuller drove up from, what's he from? Missouri, I think., look around. No offense, Boston, but you guys know how to eat there. You got good food. That's why. Jason Fuller drove up from Missouri, I think. I think so.
Starting point is 02:21:29 He's from that area. But yeah, he had a cool road Detroit Tiger jersey on. He's a big, cool son of a bitch. We love to hang out. So he donated this week also. And I was going to talk about him anyway. Thank you, Jason. Ashley Collins in Colorado sends me Snapchats of her dogs and shit.
Starting point is 02:21:43 And her mom's, they're both driving down, by the way, or flying down. I'm not sure. For the live show over at Stand Up Live. Oh, awesome. Elijah Banks, thank you. Lonnie Mower, or Mower? Mower. M-O-W.
Starting point is 02:21:54 I'm not sure. Maria Chafin, I already mentioned her. Her mother passed away, and she's not a couple years ago. But her mother is a huge true crime fan. Oh, cool. She would have loved us. Oh, that's great. Thanks for listening, Maria.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Sorry we couldn't ever get to meet her. That's a bummer. Thank you, Maria. Luke Rogers, Ashley Boxler, Clifford Paquette, the guy that brought the coin, the veteran coin. Yeah, that was really cool. It's a respect coin. It's fucking sweet.
Starting point is 02:22:20 That was dope. Yeah, thank you, man. He donated this week also. Thank you very much. Thank you, Clifford. Appreciate it, brother. Travis Saunders over in, I think they're in Utah. Lonnie Maurer, I already said that.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Elizabeth Foster, Peter Slater, Lisa Williams, Allison, Allison Knierman, Knierman, Knierman. Thank you. Thank you, Allison. Appreciate it. Thank you. Yes, thank you, Allison. Thank you for making me an idiot. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Victoria Musson, Rick Henge, Michelle Jolly over there in Australia. Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. Autumn Allen, Mojave. I'm not sure who Mojave is. Joanna James, Marissa Wells, David Walsh. Thank you very much, man. That was awesome.
Starting point is 02:22:57 Jedediah Greek. Jedediah Greek. Dana Grayson donated again this week. Hey, thanks, Dana. Dana Grayson. Jacob Berhalba. I already said his name, I think. I think so.
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Starting point is 02:23:21 Brittany Pace, also, thank you so much. Stephen Mace, Katrina Seabright, Sarah Gilbo, I mentioned her. Lucas Wazalowski, I think it's Wazalowski. Braylon Guerrero, Guerrero, that's so many R's, that's all. That's a lot of R's. It's a common name. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 02:23:38 That's what I was going with. It's so common and I still fucked it up. Jesse Hartman, Liz Cooper, Chelsea Klingensmith, Jason Fuller I mentioned, Lake, no, Jake Labier. Why did I say Lake? I don't know. It's a J. Fucking idiot.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Emmy Dumont, Anna Matusik, Matusowitz, that's it. There you go. Matusowitz, Chrissy Ann Costaldi, of course, Alex, Alexis DeVries, or DeVries, I'm not sure. James Cook, hairy bald face beard oils. I don't know what that is. No. I don't know. Hairy face, not hairy bald. What the fuck am I doing? You're making a horse now. Hairy face beard oils. Go look at those and get some of those. Ted Cyrus, I think
Starting point is 02:24:16 I mentioned him. He donated twice, I believe. Jacob Berhalba, I mentioned him also. Ted Cyrus, there it is. That's why. Ted Cyrus got him twice. Mariah Kelly, student, whoever that is. Thank you, student. Thank you, student. Rachel L. Storix, or what is that? Story? What did I do?
Starting point is 02:24:32 Fuck. What did I do? S-T-O-R-I-X? That's not right. I'm positive that I'm ruining that. I wrote that shittily. That's what I did. Well, thank you anyway. Thank you so much, Rachel Storty? Stort? Stort? Abandon ship.
Starting point is 02:24:47 Fuck. I'm abandoning. Abandon ship. Darlene James, Autumn Allen, and Blair Christensen, thank you guys so much for being on board and helping us to build a studio and create this all on our own because of you. You guys create this. So thank you. Thank you, guys.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Honestly, from the ground up, you guys have been everything to us. And we would not have this show at all. We wouldn't be doing this. Thank you guys. Honestly, from the ground up, you guys have been everything to us. We would not have this show at all. We wouldn't be doing this without you guys. You changed my life for sure. Both of our lives for the better. Thank you guys so much for everything. We love you, love you, love you to death. Follow us on social media. You can do that at Crime
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Starting point is 02:25:38 I appreciate it, guys. And also, thanks to Dennis Miller for having us on last week. That was pretty fucking cool. Yeah, thank you, man. That was cool laughing with a comedian that we grew up going, what a great comic. And it was like, oh, this guy said, he laughed at our jokes. That was kind of cool. I like those guys.
Starting point is 02:25:53 We appreciate that. That's so cool. Yeah, I like those guys. They made me laugh. So we're like, all right, cool. So Dennis Miller, politics aside, you're a good dude and we love you. Comedy point. Comedy standpoint.
Starting point is 02:26:02 You're fantastic. Unimpeachable. And we dig you, dude. So thanks for having us on there. On a personal level, we appreciate it. Thank you. You're fantastic. Unimpeachable. We dig you, dude. So thanks for having us on there. On a personal level, we appreciate it. Thank you so, so much. And that is that for this week. Oh, by the way, you can get a hold of me at Jimmy P is funny.
Starting point is 02:26:14 There you go. And copy and paste my last name. You know how it works. You don't know how to fucking spell it, so don't try. Just at Jimmy P is funny. Dennis Miller couldn't even say it. No, or he couldn't say your name, so that was a tough one. He had no shot at mine.
Starting point is 02:26:25 He literally went, oh, wow. He was like, never mind all that shit. He was worse than you with names. But never mind all that shit. We've had a great time live from the Crime and Sports Studios. We will see you next week. Bye. Bye.
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