Crime in Sports - #118 - Violence Just Follows Some People - The Menacingness of Anthony Mason

Episode Date: May 29, 2018

This week, we head down an alley, and get punched in the face by repeated criminality, and craziness. A man who was beloved in his sport for his tenacious, and rugged play, but unfortunately ...for all concerned, he took those qualities off the court, and into places like nightclubs, house parties, and the middle of Times Square! This is a long, crazy journey that never stops giving!!Work harder than anyone around, punch anyone who crosses you, and have questionable relations with young girls with Anthony Mason!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGet all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!Contact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I am Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us on another just a crazy, action-packed, adventurous edition of Crime and Sports. A really wild one for you today. Another one of these famous guys who has been around a while and kind of in the news. And a guy that, like, I grew up with. So it'll be a lot of good memories for me.
Starting point is 00:01:50 It's a lot of crazy. A lot, a lot of crazy. But before we get to the crazy, because it's deep and thick. And it's beefy tonight, let's just say. It's a beefy amount of crazy. Grizzly. Not a brain damage sport, but a beefy, beefy amount of crazy. I want to thank everyone for their iTunes reviews this week. Thank you so much for that, really.
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Starting point is 00:03:09 But still, if you want to do that. It's fucking like 70 people this week. That's a lot. Yeah, if you want to do that, you can go. It's a lot of moving parts. It's a lot of moving parts. The A-team wouldn't have been able to survive. There would have been too much scheduling.
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Starting point is 00:04:08 Oh, Lenny Dykstra. Yeah, we're going to do a Lenny Dykstra update. It's going to end up being every damn week with this guy. Lenny Dykstra did some Lenny Dykstra stuff this week in the Crime and Sports News department. Just Google Lenny Dykstra. You'll get the point. You'll get it. Well, listen to our episode, if you haven't, on Lenny Dykstra.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And then just figure out, you know what you can do? Project where you think that's going to go. Is he good now at the end of the episode like he says he is? And then Google him and find out after that. Or do you think he's maybe in possession of cocaine and robbing Uber drivers at gunpoint? One of the two. One of the two. The cocaine does not surprise me at all.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And any aggressive behavior from Dykstra really doesn't surprise me at all. I am kind of surprised in New York he's got a gun. That's real stupid. That's rich guys in New York. Yeah, that's a good point. You've got to either be like a thug or a real rich guy who doesn't think his shit doesn't stink. One of the two. One that has some shit to steal.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Either way, you have to be, I don't give a fuck. You have to be one of those people. And speaking of people in New York who ended up having a gun at some point and didn't give a fuck, let's talk about tonight's individual. We'll call him. I was looking for a nice way to introduce him. We'll just call him tonight's individual. And he was kind of a superstar.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Anthony George Douglas Mason. Anthony Mason. Oh, shit. You know Anthony Mason. Oh, yeah. Of course. Okay, if you don't know anything about 90s basketball, this will be a mystery, but you've probably seen this guy
Starting point is 00:05:30 anyway. I am shocked that Anthony Mason was arrested. Shocking, right? Was he arrested? Yeah, I would figure he wouldn't have time to get arrested because he'd be in the barber chair the other 21 hours a day that he wasn't on the court. He'd be in the barber's chair getting that shit carved into his head and sayings and pictures and shit.
Starting point is 00:05:47 The fucking Knicks logo on the side of his fucking head. Knicks logo, messages. It was pretty intricate. If you haven't seen or if you don't remember who he is, you may have seen him. He's a big, jacked-up basketball player. The most terrifying-looking Knick ever. He looks like Deebo from Friday. He looks like Tiny Lister. With two eyes
Starting point is 00:06:06 looking forward. With his eyes not crossed. But if you put Tiny Lister on a basketball court and said, that's who we have out here. A terrifying looking man. Holy shit. A tough son of a bitch. Tough as nails. One of the toughest basketball players ever. When I was a kid growing up, this is one of those episodes
Starting point is 00:06:21 that really gets to the wheelhouse of my heart because this is early 90s Nick's and this is me as a kid. And this is the whole early 90s Knicks and, like, you know, hip-hop culture and shit. All that fart about this is going to be so great. It's all great. It's fantastic. It's so much fun. This was so much fun for me to research this episode.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I love it. I've been waiting to do Mace for a while here, so let's get to it. I had no idea. Oh, yeah. Oh, I did. I remember from being a kid and you'd see shit on the news you'd be like oh come on anthony mason i don't remember that but as a kid i was like right on anthony mason except for a couple things that happened later and then
Starting point is 00:06:52 i'm like no no anthony mason don't do that but the first couple things you're like yeah that's cool when you're a kid you want your basketball players to you throw somebody through a play glass window in a fucking nightclub that's what you want out of your heroes. Did he do that? Not through a play-glass window. That was Charles Barkley. Okay. He had some, we'll talk about it. Charles Barkley did that?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Out here in Phoenix, yeah. Get out of here. How come I don't remember that? That happened in the early 90s when he played here, 93. How depressing is that? I loved basketball at that time. Tossed a guy right through a window. And the main thing I remember about Charles Barkley being here
Starting point is 00:07:23 was that he went to dinner with Madonna and he fucked all kinds of hookers. Oh, every one in town. He's part of every, he has like punch cards, like a sub shop for every single prostitute in the town of Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He had to be a champion at something. He had to be, that's the thing. And he was a champion at that. Speaking of champions. When he quit, when he quit basketball, he continued that. Oh, God, yeah. Continued the hookers. That, gambling.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. He has a lifestyle he needs to maintain. That's the thing. How do you go from playing against Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals to arrested for a blowjob from a hooker with Jaleel White in the backseat? That's fucking crazy. Minus Jaleel White, it's kind of just par for the course. Once you throw Jaleel White, the backseat. That's fucking crazy. Minus Jaleel White, it's kind of just par for the course. Once you throw Jaleel White, it gets weird. That's when it gets weird.
Starting point is 00:08:09 It's like, why is Urkel here? This is so weird. You'd almost, if you were the cop, you'd almost have to just go, I didn't see any of this, and walk away. Or at least just rub your eyes and be like, is this for real? What is happening? Are you getting double teamed by Charles Barkley and Urkel? No.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'm sorry. There's no amount of money that makes that worth it, lady. I'm sorry. You've got to get out of the car. I'm taking you somewhere away from all this. What a scene. Not jail, though,
Starting point is 00:08:31 because you've been through enough. You've suffered enough. You've seen Urkel's dick. I think that's enough right there. It does make me wish I was a cop, though, at some point in my life just to see something like that.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's fucking bizarre. Oh, God. For every one of those, you have to walk into a domestic situation and watch some married couple throw plates at each other from across the kitchen. You have to go, stop, everybody. Everybody calm down.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Rather than just tase everyone and leave. Leave corpses all over the fucking living room and walk out. Kids, too. Tase them. This whole family needs to go down. Where's the dog? Everyone calm down.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Everyone needs a fucking breather. I'm Officer Wisman. I'm here to tase your dog. Everybody. You, your kids, your dog, you're all getting tased. This whole family needs to time out. That's who we're here for. And then you arrest the man.
Starting point is 00:09:19 For every Barkley dick you see, you see ten women that are bleeding, chasing you, saying, don't arrest him. Are you out of your fucking mind? You arrest him and then she fights you. Every cop you ever talk to, that's what they say the worst thing is. You go, you arrest the guy, then they both fight you. What the fuck? To me, I've heard cops say this. That's their definition of white trash.
Starting point is 00:09:39 When you call the cops because someone beat you up and then you attack the cop for arresting them. That's the dictionary definition of white trash, like right there. It really is. You don't get any more white trash than that. Amazing. So let's talk about Mason. Anthony Mason, he's born December 14th, 1966 in Miami. It doesn't stay in Miami long, though.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's just where he's born. He's all New York City, baby. Really? Oh, God, yeah. He is Queens, Queens, Queens, through and through. New York City. That's what I mean. That's why he was so embraced by New York City, baby. Really? Oh, God, yeah. He is Queens, Queens, Queens, through and through. New York City. That's what I mean. That's why he was so embraced by New York you can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He's not the greatest ball player in the world. He's not Michael Jordan. He's not anything like that. He's not Patrick Ewing. He wasn't the star of the team. But Christ Almighty, was he the most beloved son of a bitch on that team. People would do anything for Anthony Mason because he was a heart guy. All the New York teams all have a guy on them.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I don't know if they know to get that guy. It's like one of those things. The fans want that guy, that heart guy, that guy that's just a tough son of a bitch. He'll throw a left hook when a left hook needs to be thrown. He'll bleed for this team. He'll take a left hook when a left hook needs to be taken. That's the type of guy Mason was. So he was very beloved in New York.
Starting point is 00:10:44 He just fit the whole culture of the time in the early 90s. taken like that's that's the type of guy mason was so uh he was very beloved in new york and just he just fit the whole culture of the time in the early 90s he was like this tough dude like i said with shit carved into his head you know in his hair and and so fucking ugly yeah he fit the music of the time and he just he just fit the whole thing it was like mason represented us so perfectly yeah it was like him and oakley that front line of these bad motherfuckers that you don't cross. It was just something about it that we all just loved. So did he play center? No, because he was a pair forward.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He was a small forward. So Oak was playing power forward. Yeah, he's like 6'9". Is he? Okay. Yeah, Mason is 6'7", 250, and the 250 might be light because he is jacked. I mean, you can see every muscle he looks like a wrestler he really does
Starting point is 00:11:27 he's a big big dude lefty too which is weird that lefty shot and the lefty dribble and a left hook and he also he was the type of guy he was this big jacked up guy he looked silly dribbling a basketball he looked like if you gave a bodybuilder a basketball
Starting point is 00:11:43 and he'd be like look how silly he looks flopping both hands He looked like if you gave a bodybuilder a basketball, and he'd be like, look how silly he looks. Flopping both hands on it. Yeah, like if an NFL offensive lineman swings a golf club. You're like, look how silly that looks. That's how he looked. But he could fucking ball. They would use him to bring the ball up the court. That's true.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Later on, 95, 96, he would play like a point forward where he'd bring the ball up the court. And you're like, this is ridiculous. He's huge. But he starts out here, grows up in Queens, like I said. He was also their guy that would take the fouls. Oh, he'd take the fouls, he'd give the fouls. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Like sacrifice himself for the team. Oh, yeah, he didn't care. He fouled out so many times. Go ahead and run into Anthony Mason. Good luck. So many times he fouled out. He's a guy that will stand there and take a charge like a bastard, too, because if you want to run into him, that's on you. It's one of those out. He's a guy that will stand there and take a charge like a bastard, too, because if you
Starting point is 00:12:25 want to run into him, that's on you. It's one of those things. It's your funeral, dude. He was their Mark West. Yeah. Yeah. The sacrificial lamb constantly. Except he didn't foul out very often, as we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Really? Not at all. No. Really? Because two different seasons, he led the league in minutes played. Jesus. He was a beast. He never got winded.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That's true. He was in the most amazing shape of anyone ever. I feel like I see him fouling out fucking constantly. Yeah, he was not a lot. Led the league in minutes played. Minutes played twice. That's amazing. Yeah, it's pretty impressive here.
Starting point is 00:12:54 All right, let's get into this. Sorry. He apparently didn't even play a, never played an organized basketball game until junior high. Ridiculous. So he wasn't one of these kids that was four years old with a basketball on his hand. He was just a regular kid playing other stuff and playing on the street a little, shoot hoops.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But he never was like, we got to get this kid in basketball. Look at him. He's huge. He grew up in Passaic, New Jersey when he was young with his mom. Father never around. Never around. Dad never around. And you'll see he has a coach later on that he calls dad
Starting point is 00:13:25 yeah and this guy is silver boy he is silver to the end this guy hammering away at mom no no no no not at all he's uh actually we'll talk about who he is but his son's actually in the nfl oh is that right yeah yeah uh so he uh he uh he he would make he was made fun of a lot when he was a kid for shit because Because of his face? Well, yeah. Your face looks like a fucking block of granite. Is that what it was? Your face looks like Easter Island. Is that what the...
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hey, Easter Island face. It's not clever, but I can see it. He's not classically handsome. Not by any stretch. But some people were attracted to him. He had a lot of women that were all over him. Patrick Ewing was married, too. Well, yeah. Patrick Ewing is a different story. But Mace had a lot of women that were all over him. Patrick Ewing was married, too. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Patrick Ewing is a different story. But Mace had a lot of women that were into him. I mean, he was a big, like I said, big in shape, you know, dude, looked pretty slick, if you like shit carved into somebody's head. That's the guy. He said people made fun of him because his feet were too big when he was a kid. You'll grow into him, soldier. You'll grow into that.
Starting point is 00:14:22 He didn't know to go, yeah, because my cock is so long that I need the, that's what it is. Right. But he would, he needed to get that later. Otherwise, if I didn't have all that, all those toes, I'd tip over. My feet are big. What about this? And he whips it out on his, like, God damn.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's so purple. Never mind his feet. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Does it have any circulation? It's like the skin of the seal, that thing. My grandmother coming in, my, oh, my, look. I like the skin of the seal, that thing. My grandmother coming in, my, I like the skin of the seal. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Jesus Christ. Anthony Mason's dick. He was very shy. I have a feeling his dick will come up more than once this episode. Just a hunch, I don't know. All right. So he's a shy kid. Like I said, he gets made fun of.
Starting point is 00:15:02 He wins a lot of spelling bees in grammar school. Wow. He's a spelling bee spelling bees in grammar school. Wow. He's a spelling bee. You wouldn't look at Matheny Mason and go, spelling bee winner. I'd look at him. His spelling and grammar are top notch. Not what you'd say.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'd look at that guy and think, if I challenge him to a spelling bee for a grand, I got my mortgage pay. I would think if you challenged him to a spelling bee, he'd go, what's that? Exactly. I'm up first unbelievable that's what you would think but he says he has a photographic memory that's his claim always uh he always wanted to be a pitcher first he wanted to be a baseball player he dreamed of becoming a quote mean left uh mean black left-handed pitcher with a nasty hook and a scowl for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:15:47 He wanted to be like Dave Stewart, but for the Yankees, basically, it seemed like. That's what he was going for. Which, cool. I would have loved to have that pitcher for the Yankees at some point. Sew two uniforms together to fucking fit him, though. A less friendly CeCe Sabathia is what he was going for. It's the same size. CeCe's just like fat and friendly, though.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He's like, hey, I'm approachable. Look how doughy I am. Whereas he doesn't look approachable. If there's a rain out, they just take fucking Anthony Mason's jersey and cover the field with it. Yeah, that's it. That's all you'd need. So the neighborhood was rough. They moved to Queens, and it's a rough neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And if you know early, like that time period in New York when he was growing up in the early 80s, that's when like fucking drugs really blew up. That's when crack came in. That's when the streets went fucking wild. If you've seen any documentaries about early 80s New York, The 7-5 is a great one about the corrupt. It's about a corrupt cop named, I think that was Michael Dowd is the guy.
Starting point is 00:16:44 He's a corrupt cop and everybody was corrupt. It was the 80s in New York and everybody was on the take. And this was like tons of cops that got arrested and kicked off the force. The 7-5. The 7-5 it's called. It's the 7-5 precinct. It's about New York. And it is just wild.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I mean it's – the streets are – everyone is killing each other. It's all drug dealers. The cops are all on the take. It's like some kind of crazy Wild West shit that was going on in the 80s. And that's what he grows up in. Yeah. So this is like all the 90s rappers like grew up in this era. So they all like, you know what I'm saying? Like this is like today's vodka distillers. Yes, exactly. They grew up in this era. Today's vodka proprietors. But then, yeah, this was a thing. So like all the shit that like they rap about as kids, this is all like his life.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So if you hear like a fucking Mobb Deep song, picture Anthony Mason running around, not as quite as jacked up. That's what you got right there. Less sickle cell. Yeah, less sickle cell. Actually, the prodigy died. Prodigy died of fucking sickle cell. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Did he have it then though yeah yeah he had i remember reading an article in the source from like 95 i think you have that from birth i'm pretty sure yeah it's definitely a black thing yeah only only yes only specifically they get sickle cell you wanted something all to yourself you got it fuck that sucks you get the shortest month and sickle cell enjoy Enjoy, everybody. Like, fuck, man. Don't tell me there's no white privilege, okay? We've got lice and they've got sickle cell, though. I guess so. It's the fucking worst trade-off ever.
Starting point is 00:18:12 We get a shampoo and they die from it. That's fucking stupid. Not terrific here. Now, his mother would not let him run around in the streets, though. His mother would not let him fall into the gangster life. None of that shit. His mother's not having it. His mother is, like, on top of him all the streets, though. His mother would not let him fall into the gangster life. None of that shit. His mother is not having it. His mother is like on top of him
Starting point is 00:18:28 all the time, always. He's kind of a mama's boy when it comes to that. She's protecting him, which is great because he has no fucking father. So she needs to be both parents and apparently she is pretty well.
Starting point is 00:18:38 She says, quote, let me tell you my son and I were close, as close as we could be. I told him I didn't work no two jobs, sit there reading you a book every night while you took a bath so you could grow up and be one of those posses or be some pork-eating five-percenter. I said, before you go off and kill yourself on drugs, I'll kill myself. I'll call the 103rd Precinct and tell them to get up in their cars, put the siren on, and get right over to my house because I'm about to kill my son.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I love him, but I got to kill him. He's giving me no choice. You got to get over here and stop me. You know what? It worked because Anthony never fooled with any of that garbage. I love this fucking woman. She's losing her fucking mind when she's like over something that didn't even happen. It never happened.
Starting point is 00:19:20 She went on a whole scenario. About what she would do. In the article. I'm about, that's all italicized. So she was really, I feel like, waving her arms around in this. I'm going to fuck this motherfucker up. But I didn't have to. I didn't have to, though.
Starting point is 00:19:34 It was great. It was very pleasant. And he did very well in school. His spelling bee scores were phenomenal. So we were very proud of him. And all these trophies from spelling bees passed. We were very proud of him. And all these trophies from Spelling Bee's past.
Starting point is 00:19:54 This part of the article is this part of the story, just the opening, very, very beginning here, is from a New York magazine profile on him by a guy named Mark Jacobson. Oh, he's an ESPN writer, isn't he? Yeah, he really thinks he's a fucking novelist. He's another one who's writing this flowery prose about a basketball player. And it's like, I get that it's New York magazine and not Sports Illustrated. He was writing this flowery prose about a basketball player. And it's like, I get that it's New York Magazine and not Sports Illustrated. So you're trying to class it up for the fucking readers. But you're talking about a guy dunking on people. And it's fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I'm sorry. That's not to say he's not a good writer. It was just I think the wrong medium for him is what I'm getting at. I think he could be a good novelist. But the article is well written. I mean, it was good stuff. Anyway, he ended up making the football team. I love how that irritates you so much. Somebody puts their heart into something and you're like, you fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Know your audience. I'm not going to sit here and, you know what I mean? And have some flowery bullshit. That's not our fucking audience. I'm perfectly on board. It's just fucking awesome how it it bothers me it's like a comic walking into a room and doing an act that's terrible for the fucking room it's like how stupid are you did you not see that these fucking bikers didn't want to hear about you how you like to play video games did
Starting point is 00:20:59 you not get that fucking vibe i didn't want to hear about your south beach diet that's what i mean like shit like that they don't care about your South Beach diet. That's what I mean. Like, shit like that. They don't care about your fucking experiences on Tinder. Right. Like, you're an idiot. That's what I'm saying. It's like, I get the same vibe whenever I see that out of place. Like, a writer.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Like, I know I'm writing for shit that's beneath me. Right. But I'm going to slip in little flowery things so everybody knows how fucking smart I am. And I've been to college, god damn it. Like, I didn't i swear like i'm not i know i write for sports illustrated but i'm better than sports illustrated speaking of that that asshole in alabama who wrote about smut on murder that guy nice sound cloud page by the way asshole wow jesus christ man how many fight songs from memphis can you
Starting point is 00:21:42 write good lord yeah how many remixes do they need? We researched you too, dickhead. That's the thing. You're going to talk shit about us. Don't think I'm not going to research you. Look what we do for this. We'll look you up. It's not that hard.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And don't call fucking James lazy, you cocksucker. I would say. I was like, huh? Which you're reading to Google. Fuck you, man. I don't think so, motherfucker. Yeah. Google what that episode was and tell
Starting point is 00:22:06 me if you find that shit good luck after fucking 30 hours so it seems like he listened to the whole fucking thing though and and he he wanted to say i didn't learn anything fuck you dude the thing that made me mad was he said we cursed like drunken frat boys right which i thought was hilarious since i will tell you sir right now i have never set foot on a college campus except to, like, you know, whatever. Never gotten one drop of education from there. And what did you do? You spent all your time there, and you're still in Anniston. And I bet you anything you were in a frat on top of it.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Eat my asshole with a spoon, motherfucker. Yes. So Anthony Mason made the football team. We had to take a minute sidetrack this is right in the beginning of college or college of high school right before he goes to high school he makes the football team but he never gets to play a game because his mom moves to another section here of queens laurelton queens uh before the season started and then he found out the high school he was going to which is spring Gardens, doesn't have a football team. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:06 So he was like, shit, I made the football team and now I can't play football. Really? Yeah. So at this point, he's 6'5", but he's like 165 pounds. He's a skinny rail of a kid. I mean, he's 15 years old, which if you saw what he grew up to, you're like, wow, I never would have thought. I figured as a baby he'd come out 165 pounds. i'll bet he yeah slam down on the table doctor'd say can someone help me out with this please they lifted him up i get a spotter jesus christ man what holy i can't imagine seeing
Starting point is 00:23:36 him at 165 skinny yeah i mean i i'm 58 6'5". Add fucking, how many inches is that? I'm 6'4". So that's a foot taller than me. I weigh 195, and I'm pretty thin. Yeah. So take 30 pounds off of me. Wow, I don't even know. You're just bones at that point.
Starting point is 00:23:56 That's crazy. Well, you're 15. 15-year-old kids are skinny like that sometimes, I guess. But the fact that he blew up into that. Anyway, he thought of basketball as his last option. And he went to try out for basketball. He just wanted to play sports. Probably just wanted to get out of the house.
Starting point is 00:24:10 His mom seems like she's really on top of him, which is great for schoolwork and to make sure he's in trouble. But if you're a 15-year-old kid, you're like, I just want to get away from my mom for like two fucking hours. Although she did have two jobs, so I don't know how. Whatever. Either way. Can I run suicides for six hours because otherwise i have to listen to my mom steps wind sprints i'm into it it's fine whatever you've got yeah so he walks in and he meets the coach who is kenny fiedler whose son is jay fiedler how about
Starting point is 00:24:36 the ex-nfl quarterback for years and years and years one of those hilarious guys who was a backup and had like two good games so someone thought he was good and gave him a shitload of money and then started him and after three games they went oh he's terrible he's a backup and had like two good games. So someone thought he was good and gave him a shitload of money and then started him. And after three games, they went, oh, he's terrible. He's a backup. Just like we thought to begin with. Okay, that's right. But he kicked around the league as a backup forever.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Good for him. Shit. Great. He retired very rich and didn't have to play football. Rich, I'm sure. He can spell his name still. Didn't have to play. Lucky fuck.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Terrific. So Kenny Fiedler. I want to call him Fiedler. So bad. Fiedler. That's such a tough name. Even Jay Fiedler, I always wanted to say. It's a weird name. Fucking idiot with Fiedler. He says, quote, to tell you the truth, he wasn't that good a player then. He was raw, but very coachable. He said that he was basically said Mason calls him the father that he never had, he says. He calls him his dad all the time. He'll call him dad, just like, hey, dad, what are we doing with this? It's how it is here. This is Springfield Gardens High School. Did he grow up with Jay Fiedler then?
Starting point is 00:25:35 I don't think so. No, I doubt they lived in the same area. They probably lived in Westchester. Oh, I got you. And his dad drove in because everyone I know that teaches in New York City, they don't live in New York City. First of all, now you can't afford to live in New York City if you're a teacher. Especially I'm a teacher, Sal. Good luck with all that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But even then, you'd be like, oh, this is terrible around here. We live over there. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So he said that just the kid said, quote, the guy, Fiediedler, the coach said, quote, who the hell are you? He said he said he told Mace I don't need any more ball boys. He told him so he was trying to see what he was made out of there.
Starting point is 00:26:12 He said he was skinny, six, four, six, five, you know, maybe 160 pounds. But he said that at an upward angle, at an upward angle. How do you say I don't need a ball boy to a boy that you're looking up at? To a giant child. A huge child. You say you're starting center, motherfucker. That's what you say to that kid. No shibble. What are you doing? He said he thought that, you know, he didn't know what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He wasn't that athletically inclined or anything at the time. Neither was Manute Bull. Well, Manute Bull is probably fucking seven foot one in high school. Doesn't matter. They were like, just hand it to him. We'll just put it in. Whatever. Just throw it.
Starting point is 00:26:44 He doesn't even know how to. Don't put it on the ground. Don't worry about dribbling. No. Don't dribble. Don't do... Just take the ball and drop it over the hoop into it. That's it. We need you to do. Stand in the paint. Count to two. Step out of the paint. Stand in the paint. Count to two. All game long. Rinse and repeat.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Over and over and over. That's all you do, motherfucker. All you need to do. But Fiedler said he kept him on the squad because he was the hardest worker that he could possibly be. His work ethic was unparalleled. Yeah. And he loved that.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And it's hard to kick a kid off the team who's 6'5 and works harder than anybody else. You know, you figure even if he doesn't know how to play, I could teach this kid if he tries this fucking hard. This is so crazy. Yeah. So he discovered that he was was a a good student uh he was a decent he's his coat he said he called him a coach's dream a kid that'll do anything uh puts in the time and effort uh and he also had athleticism too i mean he was a skinny goofy kid
Starting point is 00:27:37 at that point but he had a lot of athleticism in there too because mace is an athletic guy yeah you look at him and he looks big and stiff because he's big and muscular. But he was dunking on people, man, like nobody's business. He was tough. Fiedler said, quote, he worked and worked. He was the first guy at practice and the last guy to leave. He absorbed so much. He always wanted to learn something.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He was some athlete. He could have done anything. He also played the game the right way. He was a hell of a passer. And, of course, he was some rebounder. He accepted the role. Some kids don't do that. Whatever you asked Anthony to do, he did it. Yeah, if you told him scrap for rebounds this
Starting point is 00:28:09 game, he's scrapping for rebounds. He's diving into the first row. He's playing defense. That's the other thing, too. He played defense because he's an effort guy. So defense, defense, defense. His coach said quote, he loved to run. Loved to run. We could be up 40 points, and I would get somebody to take him out, and he'd go bananas.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm good, I'm good. Everybody would be sucking wind, but not this kid. He just runs and runs. That's amazing. What's most amazing to me so far is that he's growing up in a time that's so fucking crazy in New York. At 6'5", he's standing above the crowd when he's walking down the street. The bad people see him coming, and they could recruit him as a body guy any day of the week pressuring him to come hang with him and he does this this is fucking amazing and there's there's rumors like he said that he worked like uh late in high school
Starting point is 00:28:55 he did like for a couple of ll cool j things in queens because ll cool j is from queens and that's when he was first starting out it was in the early 80s said he did some security for some like ll cool j parties and shit like that like when he was a starting out. It was in the early 80s. He said he did some security for some like LL Cool J parties and shit like that, like when he was a kid, stuff like that. There's some interesting things that he talks about with like – New York, the streetball culture is a huge deal. I don't know anywhere else where it's really that big of a deal. Maybe Chicago, it's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:29:18 A couple other cities, I'm sure. But New York, it's like that is – there's guys in New York that have never played anywhere but the street that are bigger legends than NBA players. It's like, oh – there's guys in New York that have never played anywhere but the street that are bigger legends than NBA players. It's like, oh, fuck Michael Jordan. Have you ever seen this guy play? Like, fuck it. And they got some nickname. It's like Cracker Jacks McGee or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah, exactly. And a lot of these guys have gone to the NBA. Then you get your guys like Kenny Anderson and guys like that who came out of just the New York streetball scene because it's – this is some competitive, hardcore shit. Fascinating. And we kind of figure out why, too, by what he talks about. He talks about how these games, they'd have these huge streetball games that were being bet on by huge gangsters. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:54 So it was like in like kind of like in the wire when they have the West Side versus East Side basketball game with Prop Joe and Avon coaching. And then Prop Joe brings in a ringer and he gets pissed off and Avon. But they still throw the party anyway for him because, you know what, it's basketball and that's all peace. Watch the fucking wire. That's what I'm getting at. You'd understand this reference and know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Sounds great. It is great. It's fantastic. God damn it. It's a street ball. I thought the thing was about drugs. No. It is. Well, there's a West Side versus East Side basketball game where all the rival sides
Starting point is 00:30:29 of the city come together for a basketball game and everybody gets along that day. And in the wire, whoever wins that game, the other major drug dealer who sponsored that team, kind of like above the rim. Remember above the rim? There you go. Whoever sponsored that. Two-talk with a blade in his mouth. There you go.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Whoever sponsored that then has to throw a huge party for the whole other side. So it's one of those things. But everybody's supposed to get along. It's supposed to be like even all the beefs are squashed on basketball day. Just for that day. Just for that day. And tomorrow you better run, motherfucker. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. I'm sure beefs are cultivated that day and then later on squared away. We'll settle them tomorrow. Our beefs are cultivated that day and then later on squared away. We'll settle them tomorrow. But they would have these guys who would sponsor these teams or put together these teams, the big gangsters of the area. And then they would have huge $100,000 bets on these things, hundreds of thousands of dollars on these games. Like and one versus underarm or something? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:18 But it was like for bragging rights. You know what I mean? So there was these – and if you listen to rap in the early 90s or if you're from new york in the early 80s uh you know like these gang there was gangsters that were had like these were like street drug dealers that everybody knew their name like just like normal people knew their names like shit was on the news like wow it was crazy yeah so they had a fat cat nickels back then yeah who i've heard of and p, and Pappy Mason, who you've heard of him from Nas songs and from a couple others. He was a big, famous gangster in the early 80s, and all the rappers rap about him from
Starting point is 00:31:50 the early 90s. They would have these huge games, and they said, basically, the referee was the one who was most in deep shit, kind of like in that game in The Wire. He had to call that shit right right or else he was in trouble. Yeah, you got people there with guns. Yeah, that's – It's not a popcorn bucket coming at you. And they have a lot of money riding on it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And Mason played in a bunch of these games. Really? Yeah, later on because he was a good ball player. And why not? And he said, quote, now that's some real pressure. Oh, I'll bet. They were some big bad men. So that's kind of, I think, that streetball.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You have to be really good because if not, you might get shot. So I feel like that's a big deal. That's funny that he played in shit like that and then his coach in the NBA kind of looked like the most gangster motherfucker on the court. Yeah, yeah. Well, Pat Riley. Holy shit, is that man terrifying. Pat Riley is a real kind of a wannabe don corleone type yeah his hair slick back yeah yeah hook nose and yeah
Starting point is 00:32:50 thousands in his pockets definitely it'd be like yeah yeah him and like fucking mike ovitz would be like could start their own family i think when he was in la so i had a blackjack in his fucking dress socks. Yeah, you would expect that. So these two, Fiedler and Anthony Mason here, they really, really got to be close together. Fiedler took special interest in him, as a lot of these guys do with players who are really good. You take special interest. You make sure they don't fuck up because you need him on the floor. Very silver of him to do, But still takes care of him anyway. Whether it's for his own benefit or not, he still does it.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Fiedler says, quote, we were like father and son. We went through things people have no idea about. They called him Mason's guiding light. It was what people called him. They ended up taking the. That's how bright his silver hair is. That's right, right there. You just follow the guiding line. Follow it.
Starting point is 00:33:47 He's like Rudolph. The Rudolph of silver-haired, middle-aged white men. Right through a foggy night, I can see it. You're so great. So Springfield Gardens wins the 1983 New York Public School Athletic League Championship that year in 83. So there you go. We paid off Fiedler's nurturing of a young Anthony Mason. Mason thought that he'd be, you know, I could pick my college, man.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I just won a championship with the school here. I'm a baller. I'm fucking good. Nobody gave a fuck. Nobody recruited him. Really? Wasn't really recruited. He was just like, he sat there and was like, he expected they're going to be lining up. I'm fucking good. Nobody gave a fuck. Nobody recruited him. Really? Wasn't really recruited.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He was just like, he sat there and was like, he expected they're going to be lining up. I'll be, shithead coaches are going to be coming to me left and right here. I'm going to have to fight them off. And nobody gave a shit at all, which is weird. So he ends up attending Tennessee State University. Oh, my God. That's so many letters to carve in the back of your head. That's so many. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He would have sat there. That's what I mean. It would have taken all fucking day. That's from ear to ear. No, no, that's two E's and two S's and two A's. Yeah, all of them. It's a lot. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I know it's too many. Right. So this is the Tennessee State Tigers. It's a small college in Nashville, which it's funny, too, because they ask him, like, oh, did you get into, like, the Nashville type stuff? Did you go to the Grand Old Opry Grand Old sorry Old Opry sorry I put a fucking I made a real word out of that I apologize
Starting point is 00:35:13 sorry rednecks put a real word on it did you go to the Patsy Klein Museum Anthony he says quote us fellas didn't go over to that side of town, he says. So, yeah. We stayed mostly with some black people and kept it safe.
Starting point is 00:35:31 To the white part. That's going to. I don't go. We were in Nashville. That shit is way too, like, I felt like I was going to get rolled by hillbillies. Just being, like, ethnic. I thought this was going to be a problem. A little bit't tan for
Starting point is 00:35:45 our that's what i mean they know i'm not from around there immediately that they can fucking tell no one asked me for directions in that part of the country so uh yeah i can imagine how his apprehension might feel and anybody from new york honestly i know this might not be right or fair but we're a little weirded out by the south when it comes to that. We've seen, you know, we've heard things and seen things. This is hilarious. And we're just like, these people are strange. I was most terrified being in New York. That, I was perfectly comfortable
Starting point is 00:36:14 with that. I was making friends with rappers at three in the morning. I'm fine with that shit. I'm being accosted on a fucking subway. I know how to deal with that. That, I know how to deal with. A man told me he's going to forcibly push his penis into my face. You know what? I'm so much more comfortable with that than, hi y'all. I'm so much more comfortable with, man, fuck you. I'm going to stick my dick in your mouth. I'm like, all right, I can handle this shit. I know where he's coming from. He
Starting point is 00:36:37 threw a chicken bone at me on the subway and then ate scrambled eggs off the seat. That's what I mean. I can understand that and deal with that behavior. I can't understand what some blonde woman with big hair going, I can't deal with that shit. I can't take it. And then he took out a porno mag and told me, I'm going to come in your mouth. That's normal behavior to me.
Starting point is 00:36:58 That I get. I get that. And then I yelled at him and told him to leave me alone. And the fucking engineer of the train came out and yelled at me. To me, no. You don't understand, Jimmy. He told me to leave the man. He told me he's going to face fuck me.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And he goes, don't say a word to him. He's telling you, just ignore him. Yeah. Because you know what? You should have known that from the beginning. That's my point. That's my point. Which is exactly the way you handle that guy is exactly how I handle.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Hi, y'all. I just keep, don't make eye contact. Just keep fucking walking because it's just as creepy. I handle it the same way. Same way. You got to deal with those people. Oh, Jesus. Maybe that's why it's weird in the South.
Starting point is 00:37:49 They're trying to be friendly, and I'm like, get the fuck away from me. What do you want from me? What, are you going to try to face fuck me? Get out of here. You're going to try to face fuck me, aren't you? No, you can't come on me. No, get away from me. They're like, huh?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Y'all want some grits? No. I don't want any grits. Get away from me. Oh, my God. Or barbecue or anything you have to offer. Although I do love barbecue. So.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Oh, fuck. He is much like I was avoiding that side of town in Nashville. He got a lot more into working out when he's at Tennessee State. And that's mainly because he's bored. He says, quote, Coach Fiedler told me to drop and do 50 push-ups every time I'm watching TV and a commercial comes on. When I was in Tennessee, I watched a lot of television. Oh, my God. So this is why he gets in the way.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's how he got big. Because he's like, well, I got nothing else to do. He's like a guy in prison, basically. Like, I don't want to go outside. The high y'alls are all out there, so I got to stay in here. Every 30 minutes, I'm doing eight minutes of push-ups. Fuck yeah, man. Well, back then, it was like six.
Starting point is 00:38:42 But still, you know, commercial. Nowadays, he'd be even bigger. Oh, he'd be a monster. Commercials have gotten out of control. So the 84-ups. Fuck yeah, man. Well, back then it was like six, but still, you know, commercial nowadays, he'd be even bigger. Commercials have gotten out of control. So the 84-85... What does he do with an infomercial? Oh, Jesus Christ. Is this a whole fucking time? Is this going to fucking end? It's a long commercial. I get it. It's a slap chop. Hey, coach, man, I'm getting...
Starting point is 00:38:58 I know I'm a worker, but fuck, man, it's an hour long. I've heard about the pocket fisherman six times. This Ron Popeil guy's starting to make sense. how'd you get so cut up slap chop that's what happened ron popeel did this to me once you get to once you get to like push up four or five hundred and you start to get delirious this shit starts to make sense to you you're like yeah you don't need heat to roast a chicken of course not coach you heard of the sham wow it did this not. It did this. Just with air, you can do it. You get a ShamWow, you get pecs. Yeah, that's how it happens.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Now with pecs. Hate that fucking guy, too. I'm so glad he's dead. Moving on. What was his fucking name? Billy some shit. Mays. Billy fucking.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Billy May? Too dark of a beard for his face, asshole. I don't know. Too dark for his age. Billy just for men. I don't fucking know what he's doing. I think it was Billy Mays. Yeah, that, asshole. I don't know. Too dark for his age. Billy Just for Men. I don't fucking know what he's doing. I think it was Billy Mays. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I think that is right. Billy Mays selling you fucking everything that you can't find in a store because if it was worth a fuck, that's where it would be. It would be in a store with people that stock it and put price tags on it. And then you buy it and that's where the good stuff is. Not on fucking TV. 84-85 season. His team goes 9-19.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Oh, my God. The Tennessee State squad here. Not terrific. And you know what? I mean, it has a man on the roster. I looked at the name, Jose Crisp. Oh, boy. They have a guy named Jose Crisp, which just sounds hilarious.
Starting point is 00:40:22 He sounds like Slowpoke Rodriguez. I'm Jose Cruz. It just doesn't sound like a good name at all for a ball player at all. But Mason has a fine year. He plays in 28 games, 28.8 minutes a game, which for a freshman, not bad. Ten points a game, 5.3 rebounds, 1.6 assists. Doing all right. Doing all right, and he's getting in physical shape.
Starting point is 00:40:44 His body is changing big time at this point. By the 85-86 season, the team goes 14-14. So they get it to 500. Jose Crisp is off the team. I think that's why. That's what happened. Yeah, they don't run the offense through Jose Crisp anymore. He was too fast.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Nobody else could keep up. He'd get down the court, and everybody else is still half court. He's like, hey, where are you guys? They got numbers. Are you coming? Ridiculous. This is going to get so terrible. Jose Cris.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yes. Too fast for his teammates. A college basketball player says, hey, everybody, are you coming? I'm down here already. They have the ball again. I tried to score the points, but they keep taking it from me because there's only one of me. Because there's five of them already, and there are still four of you down there. No, I should probably just wait for you, but why?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Coach said go. Coach said go, I say probably just wait for you, but why? Coach said go. Coach said go. I say, eh, okay. Fucking ridiculous. Poor Jose. The whole time just shrugging his shoulders. I don't know. I don't think he made the NBA.
Starting point is 00:41:55 No, Jose Chris did not make the NBA. I don't know if that's racist or funny, but whatever. It's kind of funny to me. Doing a cartoon character of a real man who could be dead by now. That was 35 years ago. Who the fuck knows where he's at? So fuck Jose Crisp. He's clearly in the lineage of Speedy Gonzalez, though, somehow.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Follow me. We cartooned him up real fast. Come on, everybody. Don't make me get over the line really fast. It's okay. They told me to get over the line really fast, so I did. It's okay. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:42:31 He's got slow poke Rodriguez's mannerisms with Speedy Gonzalez's speed. So he's a combination of the two. So, Anthony, this year in the 14-14 year, 28 games, 32.6 minutes a game, 18 points a game, 6.9 rebounds, 2.5 assists. So his game has upped significantly, big time here. Also that year, he ups his crime quotient by being convicted on a shoplifting charge
Starting point is 00:42:51 down in Tennessee. So we don't know what happened down there because it was 1986 in Tennessee, so there's not really a large and some shit small school. Not really a huge press. The press didn't rush to cover that one. One of those that probably never got in the press. That was one of those where the cops call
Starting point is 00:43:07 the coach, you know, and the coach says I'll go pick him up and then it doesn't make the paper. It's the 80s. So I'm thinking that. But later on, when he has problems, they look up his record and it's on there. So yeah, we do know about it. 1986-87 season, team goes 15-12. So
Starting point is 00:43:23 slight improvement again. Also more news for him87 season. Team goes 15-12. So, slight improvement again. Also, more news for him this season. January 25th, 1987. A son is born. Oh, boy. He has a son. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:43:35 With a woman named Monica Bryant. No. And his name is... What the fuck, Anthony? Anthony Jr. Of course it is. Of course it is. God damn it. It's obviously Anthony Jr is god damn it it's obviously Anthony Junior
Starting point is 00:43:45 god damn it why wouldn't it be Anthony Mason Junior why are you breaking this rule why Anthony Mason
Starting point is 00:43:53 why because he's already convicted of fucking shoplifting that's why I know what happens and I'm still rooting for him
Starting point is 00:43:59 and I'm like no don't name your kid Junior then next thing you know I'm going to be talking about worse things that you've done.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Fuck. Fuck. All right. But that season, he plays in 27 games, 35.2 minutes per game, which in college, the game's only 40 minutes. So that's not too shabby right there. Yeah, not too bad. 18.8 points, 9.7 rebounds, which, damn, that's not bad. That's damn near a double-double.
Starting point is 00:44:23 A game? A game. 9.7 a game, which, damn, that's not bad. That's damn near a double-double. A game? A game. 9.7 a game and 2.5 assists. So he is just beating people silly. And physically, too, in college, he becomes a man playing amongst boys in college. He is just knocking people out of the way. He's got a kid. He needs to fucking get to the NBA now.
Starting point is 00:44:41 That's the thing. He's like, oh, shit, I've got to work hard here. He has a really— This better have a paycheck attached to it at some point. Fuck this education. I can spell like a motherfucker. You don't even know. So 87-88 season.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Team goes 11-17. So never really finds any success in college as far as the team winning. But, I mean, he plays for Tennessee State. In college, it's not really up to you whether your team does well or not. I just found out 10 minutes ago that college exists. That's what I mean, the Tennessee State Tigers. So I didn't know much about that. So that year, 11-17, he plays in 28 games, 38 minutes a game.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So, I mean, Jesus, that is killing it. 28 points a game. Okay. Not bad. 10.4 rebounds, 3 assists. He is averaging a double-double. He's averaging a double-double and 28 points in that double-double, too. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's not like a 12-10 or anything. He's not shy at all. And the team's scoring 54 anyway. That's the thing. And they're losing 17 games in college. Yeah, they're scoring 53 points, and he's scoring 28 of them. Come on, guys. He's playing the Jose role.
Starting point is 00:45:42 He's like, come on, guys. Where you guys at? Jose's in the stands now. He's an alumni. He's like, come on, guys. Where you guys at? Jose's in the stands now. He's an alumni. He's like, go. I could have helped. Follow Anthony. What's wrong?
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'd be up there with you, Anthony. Why you think I quit? Never mind. He didn't get caught. He just quit. I quit. He just kept running, and he said, nobody follow me. So I just keep running out of gym and go.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Keep going. All right. Spanish Forrest Gump. That's right. I keep going. I don't know. That's how I think he is. He's going to keep running.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Come on, guys. Why they don't follow? He's just confused. He's Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite. He's very confused. Oh, I hate that fucking movie. And we're just going together. That's a good analogy, though.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So you'd imagine with those numbers, NBA draft, the NBA would be looking at him, right? I would imagine so. So let's find out. June 28, 1988 is the 1988 NBA draft. Live from New York City, Felt Forum, which is attached to Madison Square Garden there. This is live on
Starting point is 00:46:41 TBS. That's when they first started airing them all the time. Number one pick overall that year, Danny Manning. Out of Kansas, absolutely. Danny Manning was number one to the Clippers. He played for years for the Clippers first. Number two, Rick Smits. You know who I was
Starting point is 00:46:56 mixing up with? Nance. That makes sense. I could say Manning and Nance. Rick Smits, big goofy Swedish or whatever the fuck he was. Dutchman. Dutchman, there you go. He went to college at Marist, which is right by me in New York. It's right near Poughkeepsie, New York.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So he was like a huge deal around there because there's a 7'5 blonde guy walking around. Holy shit. The goddamn mullet. Literally no one cared about the basketball. I was like, the fucking Marist has this guy. Holy shit. You guys seen the fucking Marist has this guy. Holy shit. You guys seen the moment on this weirdo? What a goofy son of a bitch he is.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Literally, like, you got to see him walking around. It's crazy. Like, I saw him at the mall. It's insane. You may have just mentioned the next ugliest person next to fucking. We talked about him with Jay Moore, about him being hideous. Yeah, he was just a terrible looking individual. Terrible looking man.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Number three, Charles Smith. And I believe that is criminal Charles Smith, who will have an episode all his own. Yes, he was just a terrible looking individual. Terrible looking man. Number three, Charles Smith, and I believe that is criminal Charles Smith, who will have an episode all his own. Right for the Knicks. Right now, it was the 76ers. Straight into the Clippers. He was drafted. Mitch Richman, number five. Hersey Hawkins, number six. Love me some Hersey Hawkins.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Rex Chapman, number eight. Another guy who would possibly have... Monster three-point shooter. He was great, but he was another guy who might have his own episode. Jesus, I completely forgot about that. What a dipshit. He had issues as well. Ronnie Cycli, you big goofy bastard.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Uh, he's from Lebanon, which explains why he looks like that. I was like, what is this guy? Fucking those fucking weird high cheekbones. He looks like a crackhead.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I was like, what is he from Greece? This one looks like a bighead i was like what is he from greece this one looks like a big greek weirdo but no he's lebanese which makes more sense will purdue big goofy white center for the bulls for years harvey grant is in this dan marley number uh 14 overall yeah will purdue i just saw his face he and the other fucking weird uh ginger that played for the bulls that was a center were like interchangeable. Yeah, yeah. Bill Wennington.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You had Wennington, Perdue, Luke Longley. Luke Longley. That's your guy. That trio of shit there. Big white goofballs. Luke Longley and Perdue are just interchangeable nobodies. Nobody. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Longley got like fucking $80 million out of the Suns, too, because they're stupid. They made the dumbest, because they're stupid. They made the dumbest fucking move. So stupid. So number 19 overall is Rod Strickland, who again will have his own episode. This draft is like the crime and sports draft. It really is. There's everybody in this fucking draft is a criminal pretty much.
Starting point is 00:49:20 A complete fucking idiot. Vinny Del Negro, who has always cracked me up because he's very white. Vinny of black. Vinny of the black, and he's white as shit. Fucking little guinea running around. I just always called him Vinny the Guinea over there. It was not a big thing. Charles Shackelford, who we did a fucking small-town murder episode,
Starting point is 00:49:38 I believe, with a guy named Charles Shackelford, I think, if I'm not mistaken. And then now we've got one that played in the NBA. Yeah, but all these guys. But finally, a guy named Tito Horford is drafted. Oh, my God. I know Al Horford, but anyway. If you're Anthony Mason and that name gets mentioned, you've got to be just shaking your head going, really? Really?
Starting point is 00:49:57 Not me? Steve Kerr, No. 50 overall to the Suns there. Finally, at No. 53 overall, the third round, which does not even exist anymore. It's two rounds now. Anthony Mason finally picked in the third round by Portland. Portland, this was a pick that they traded to get from Golden State. So whatever that's worth there. So he is, I mean, that's barely drafted at that point.
Starting point is 00:50:20 By the way, non-drafted people from that year. Avery Johnson, who's turned out to be a a coach and was a pretty good little point guard also. And my man, John Starks also. What? John Starks. Undrafted. Undrafted John Starks was, again, an effort guy. How come I didn't know that?
Starting point is 00:50:36 I don't know. Starks is a guy who just never got any respect. I didn't know he was undrafted. That's incredible. Again, effort, effort, effort, effort. Those 90s Knicks teams were full of guys that would punch you in the face with a drop of a hat. Loved them. In street clothes.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, in street clothes. What was his name there? Eric Anthony. No, that's the ball player. It's Anthony. I just picked an Astros player. Greg Anthony. Greg Anthony, yes.
Starting point is 00:50:57 He's a little asshole. The Astros infielder from the early 90s. Who I meant was Greg Anthony. Also, Henry James. Again again a guy who will have his own episode really uh yeah again so this is like a packed full of crime and sports people now 88 89 season the team uh the portland trailblazers kept anthony mason they were stacked with guys at his position so they had jerome kersey they have mark bryant so they didn't uh that was a great team oh yeah they were fun teams and so they they kept him on the injured list all of 88 and 89.
Starting point is 00:51:28 They just kept him injured and he wasn't injured just to keep him on the roster but not have to cut him. He said the coach said, quote, of Kenny Fiedler said, quote, we were hoping he'd get cut right away, which he said Mace was calling him four to five times a night. He said it wasn't a good situation for him. He never had a chance with Jerome Kersey and Mark Bryan ahead of him. But they didn't cut him. They put him on the injured list. Anthony was calling me saying, but, Dad, I ain't hurt. Why don't they let me play?
Starting point is 00:51:53 He thought it was like purgatory, which he just didn't get it. He's like, I don't understand what's going on here. They're just sitting me on the bench and saying you're hurt. It's because you're valuable, Mace. Maybe. And they know it. Well, they think that. It's because you're valuable, Mace.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Maybe. And they know it. Well, they think that. Now, also, June 30th, 1989, Fiedler had a friendship with New Jersey Nets coach Willis Reed, who was the ex-Nick player, Willis Reed, who limped out in the court and whatever big dramatic thing there in the 70s. He tries to get Reed to talk the Trailblazers into releasing Mason from his contract so the Nets could sign him. That way he'd be closer to home, and maybe that would be a better situation for him. So finally, in 89, he's released by Portland. They do release him, but, I mean, they kept him a whole year after that.
Starting point is 00:52:37 They release him. Right after they release him, he goes home, you know, because he's released, so they're trying to work the thing out with the Nets, he is arrested uh in 1989 in queens on a felony gun possession charge oh my god mace you tell me yeah yeah that that's stupid yeah right there like what do you have a fucking gun for you grew up here 89 in that area you better be packing some shit you need some shit no no shit and especially if he just played in the nba for a year he just had a contract he's got a gold chain i bet he's got shit like that you better be packing because you'll get robbed like a motherfucker back then and you're big and tall everyone sees you they're gonna plot against you
Starting point is 00:53:12 to rob you every fucking time back then so that's it's like a fucking mob deep song yeah they're setting me up and shit man it's it's not good uh so uh he ends up f out of all of the the gun charge he ends up getting sentenced to five years probation and 250 hours of community service. That is steep. That's a little steep. Yeah. The gun charges were no shit. They took it serious.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Absolutely. Plus, you know, he's black. So they were going to really make sure to fucking hammer him, especially in 89 in New York. They were not considered the best in terms of the most equal punishment distribution, we'll say, system there. A little heavy on the black side? A little heavy on the black side, yeah. If it's a black and white cookie, it's about 10 percent white on the criminal justice end of how they want to apply the law basically. It's thick with chocolate.
Starting point is 00:54:00 It is. That's just they were fucking – man, it's to this day, too. They do the stats of like the – how many people are like searched by the New York City police. And it's like fucking 80 percent minority. And it's like – come on. Maybe we're doing this the wrong way. It's not funny, but it's fucking like – It's funny.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Clearly it's like, come on, guys. What's funny is that they're going to claim that it's not they're not profiling. You're going to have to throw a seed up against the wall once in a while. Even this out is what we're saying. You know what I mean? Some guy with his bag of diamonds coming out of the shop. Throw him up against the fucking wall and frisk him. You never know.
Starting point is 00:54:36 It just might make Anthony Mason feel better is what I'm getting at. Yeah. Well, he's on probation for five years. A group of black guys walking by going. Yeah. All right. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, right there.
Starting point is 00:54:46 That guy. That's the one. I seen him do something. Right. I saw it. So September 19th, 1989, he's signed by the New Jersey Nets. So that actually works out. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:54:55 That's because he barely plays for them. 89-90 Nets. This was a team. They had Mookie Blaylock, who will have his own episode. You betcha. Sam Bowie, who was just a disaster of a draft pick when you could have had Michael Jordan. Is that right? Yeah, he got picked first over Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Sam Bowie did? Sam Bowie, yeah. Oh, my God. Somebody said, you know what, Michael Jordan? Nah, we'll take Sam Bowie. Sam Bowie. That happened. That's our guy.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Who was a great player, but he just had injury problems. He's no Michael Jordan. He's not Michael Jordan. No, absolutely not. I don't care how fucking good he is. He's not Michael Jordan. He's not Michael Jordan. No, absolutely not. I don't care how fucking good he is. He's not Michael Jordan. They had Chris Dudley, who was a big, stiff, white center from Yale. If I remember right, terrible free throw shooter.
Starting point is 00:55:32 He was the worst. This is an interesting team there, and Anthony Mason, but he barely plays. In 21 games, he plays 5.1 minutes a game, 1.8 points a game, 1.6 rebounds. Jesus. They don't play him. 5.1 points a game is you're coming in at garbage time at the end and just running up and down the court, 1.8 points a game, 1.6 rebounds. They don't play them. 5.1 points a game is you're coming in at garbage time at the end and just running up and down the court, basically running around. Get you some exercise.
Starting point is 00:55:52 That's it. Come on, get out there, buddy. Go breathe. Go do some sprints. I know you like to run. Your coach said you love to run. Go open them up. You're more than welcome. October 30th, 1990, he's waived by New Jersey at that point, and right after that, he signs with Denver around this time. No kidding?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah, he signs with Denver. You wouldn't know it because it was only two 10-day contracts. The early part of his career is so fucking depressing. It really is. He came out. He had to scrap and fight for everything he got. He really did. Two 10-day contracts with the Nuggets.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I mean, that's just sad. They weren't willing to commit a full-season contract. And if you have a guy through two 10-day contracts, that's all you can do. You can't sign him to a third 10-day contract. You either have to release him or sign him for a full season at that point. Well, give it to them, Denver, because who the fuck do you have? Exactly. You don't have Anthony Mason.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, they do not have Anthony Mason. They suck. Their roster was terrible. Oh, it was was terrible it was awful right up until they got mellow and even then they did early 90s uh no no matumbo i mean and that squad abdul raouf no they fucking made that playoff run that year i mean matumbo that's all they had ever won that or that. They shocked from the eighth seed to beat the one seed that year in the playoffs. It still doesn't matter. They never had anybody. They had Dale Ellis. They had Mutombo.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Mutombo. And Roof. Abdul Roof. And Roof. Yeah, yeah. So they had some guys. Fucking point guard. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:57:16 He's good. He was fine. He was fine. It's not fucking. It's not what the Trailblazers had. It's not fucking courtesy. No, well, they were a top-tier team. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:57:24 So that year, Mace only plays in three games for Denver. Seven points a game, seven minutes a game, 3.3 points, 1.7 assists. So basically, he does nothing. So then he's signed to play basketball in Turkey by... What?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Ephus Pilsen signs him. They are now Anadolu, Ephus, Ifespor Kalubu. That's a real team. Yeah, the English translation is Anadolu Efi Sports Club. It's a Turkish pro ball team that plays in Istanbul. They've won the league championship 13 times. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:00 So they're like the powerhouse of that league. Yeah, they are. And he's signed by them, or we'll let his mom describe it a little bit differently than signing with his mom. This is great. His mom, she he said, I'm going to play in Turkey. His mom said, where the fuck are you playing? What are you talking about? Quote, some slick asses out of Chicago found Anthony in a hotel lobby, gave him money and promised him a car. We had to call up Congressman Flake's office to get the passport because they said he had to leave right away. Well, the car turned out to be a rental, which Anthony had to pay the bills for. They were just body snatchers looking for an innocent boy to send overseas. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:41 So these guys just sent him over there. These were like recruiters that were scumbag. Just shitty. Scumbag overseas basketball recruiters. He said a little bit out of the blue it was going over there. He says he got 80 grand for it, though. He got sold basketball Amway. That's really what it was.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah. Basketball fucking Avon. Right. That's just terrible. Hey, Mace. Come over here. We'll give you a car. How about the part where I got to pay for it, you fucking jerks? Yeah, what about that?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, what is this basketball Mary Kay shit going on here? I don't want your pink LeBaron. Eat dicks. But for him, he got 80 grand for it, which is something. He said, quote, all I did was practice, play, and stay in the hotel room. People would follow me down the street. Then I'd go into the hotel, go to sleep, get up the next morning, go out, and there'd be the same person still staring at me. Are you shitting me? They're like,
Starting point is 00:59:28 who the fuck is this guy? You giant black guy? There's none of them here. So he said he was miserable. His mother ended up leaving her job in Manhattan to go to Turkey to stay with him for the last few weeks he was there. He also had a friend there with him, too, that he brought in just because he couldn't fucking take it anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:45 You walk down the street. You go into your hotel room. You come out the next morning. Same guy standing there going, I just didn't believe I saw you yesterday. I still want to get a glimpse. Where did you sleep, motherfucker? I told you, like the skin of the seal. He's got a friend with him now.
Starting point is 00:59:59 See? Look. Shiny. Isn't it so purple? Can you believe it? He ended up getting in an altercation with his coach there that kind of fucked up the whole thing there. He says, doing in their own words here on turkey. He says, in their own words, quote, turkey was strange.
Starting point is 01:00:21 There aren't too many dark-skinned people there, not ones that look like me anyway. Even the burgers tasted different. I do not like to criticize another's culture, but I had to frown at some of the squirrely things those turks were slurping up turks were squirt he doesn't like food over there generally is what he's getting at here jesus christ man uh he got uh he gets back from turkey he has an agent named don cronson who is as silver-haired as it gets. You bet. He has just – at one point later on, he's so just overwhelmed by all this shit. Yeah. He just – he gets arrested in New York City later on.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Spoiler alert. And he just goes, I just don't understand it. He was only in New York for a few hours. The guy's just like, I just don't get it. He just got here. How did he get arrested? How did this happen? Why am I explaining this to you? Fuck. I can't believe I'm talking't get it. He just got here. How did he get arrested? How did this happen? Why am I explaining this to you?
Starting point is 01:01:06 Fuck. I can't believe I'm talking to you either. This is so weird. So, Cronson gets him some work, though. Gets him a spot on a Venezuelan team down there called Marinos de Oriente. This is a guy that played in the NBA Eastern Finals so many times. Oh, he was there. And he's already. Didn't he play in the finals? Just the one time against Houston the NBA Eastern Finals so many times. Oh, he was there. Didn't he play in the finals?
Starting point is 01:01:27 Just the one time against Houston. Oh, the Eastern Conference Finals. Oh, tons of times. We got beat by Chicago constantly. And this fucking guy is playing in Turkey already. He's in Venezuela here. And this team has won the Venezuelan Championship 11 times, so he's going to play for their big team
Starting point is 01:01:44 here. He said he liked it here, though. He said he lived near a beach. He said the women were nice there by the beach. He had a good time. He said, quote, food was great. It wasn't Muslim, so there were plenty of women. We played in a town by the beach, so I'm real good at picking up languages,
Starting point is 01:02:00 especially Spanish, so it was pretty much of a party. Oh, boy. So he had a good fucking time. I'm assuming Anthony Mason Jr.'s mom ain't around. I don't think so. She'll come up later, though. Don't worry. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:02:12 She'll come up big and very public later on. So he plays a little there in 90. He plays 26 games in the CBA, as we know, the Criminal Basketball Association, who will take any cast off of the NBA possible. This is like an up-and-comer rather than a has-been, though. This is so weird. It's so weird. He plays for the Tulsa Fastbreakers, every young man's dream.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Jesus Christ. He averaged 29.9 points and 14.8 rebounds there. Killed it. Killed it in only 26 games, and he crushed it there. He also ends up in the USBL, the United States Basketball League, playing for the Long Island Surf, who later on I think Stephon Marbury played for them for a minute before he went to the NBA. Yeah, this is one of those teams that's come up a few times, the Surf here. He averaged 27.8 points a game and 11.2 rebounds, and he set a league record with 28 rebounds in a game.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But to be fair, in that league you can still punch people. It's a game and 11.2 rebounds. And he set a league record with 28 rebounds in a game. But to be fair, in that league, you can still punch people. That's probably, yeah. That's a league where it's only after the ball hits the rim. While it's in the air, you can kick a man in the chest. That's how it works. Only a kick and right in the chest. It's like a tipped ball in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, that's what it is. You're allowed one kick in the chest. You can blast anybody. And then it's fine. So, that's what it is. And you're allowed one kick in the chest. You can just blast anybody. And then it's fine. So they keep it together like that. If it doesn't hit the rim, you can't kick the guy, Jimmy. They're not barbarians here. Just whistles all day long. It's all day long.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Early kicks to the chest, number 28. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Ball didn't draw a rim. Ed Krinsky, who sounds like a guy who's just a general manager of a shit-heeled B-League basketball team, says, quote, I really believed he could play in the NBA. He was a huge guy with backcourt skills. Also, Ernie Grunfeld, at this point, who's an old player, we talked about him in the Bernard King episode.
Starting point is 01:04:01 He was the Knicks general manager in 1991. him in the Bernard King episode. He was the Knicks general manager in 1991. He called Fiedler, his old coach, asking his opinion on considering bringing Mason in for their summer league team to take a look at him. And Fiedler said, quote, he said, quote, Ernie, I've been trying to tell you about this kid for two years now. Where have you been? You and Riles get your head off the ground.
Starting point is 01:04:21 This kid will do anything you want. I feel like he said, get it out of your ass and clean it up for the press. Get your head to – tell Riley to get his oil-slicked fucking head out of his ass. It will fire right out of there with his fucking slicked back ass. It's all lubed up already. No problem. Yeah, he's got KY all over his fucking head. So I told the guy, hey, you guys need to get your head off the ground and really take a look at this kid.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Meanwhile, Anthony is already in a barber's chair getting his logo fucking carved in. I'm in. Let's play. the Knicks logo fucking carved in. I'm in. Let's play. Getting fucking Queens carved in the side of his head. So July 30th, 1991, he is signed by the New York Knicks. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. This is the time where we all know Anthony Mason.
Starting point is 01:04:57 This is the most backwards career for an NBA player. Right? He had to fight to get there. It usually ends the other way. Yeah. Well, him and Starks are the same kind of guy. That's why that team was so scrappy. They had guys that nobody wanted who had to fight to get there. It usually ends the other way. Yeah. Well, him and Starks were the same kind of guy. That's why that team was so scrappy. They had guys that nobody wanted who had to fight to get in the league.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Guys that earned it. They were guys that would do anything to stay there. That was just all it was. And as we saw, Starks, the way he used to attempt to guard Michael Jordan. Jesus Christ, man. Wow. He tried his best. I mean, he really did.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Lots of slapping. He really did. Lots of fouling. So Jeff Van Gundy was an assistant at that point under Pat Riley, who later on will be the coach best known, I believe, for hanging on to a player's leg on the ground during a fight while the guy was walking and just dragging his tiny bald body with him. Getting dirt all over his tie.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. His tiny, bald body with him. Getting dirt all over his tie. Yeah. So he said that he will never forget one of these days of the summer camp there. Mason, who was a guy who was established, Xavier McDaniel, who's a bad motherfucker. He kind of established being a nasty, bald, mean motherfucker. Real bad dude.
Starting point is 01:06:04 He said that they got into a fight. That's a fight I would pay to watch that. Yes. I'd pay to watch that fight. That's a Holyfield-Tyson war. I'd watch that. That's a pay-per-view. I'm watching that fight. They said that it didn't end quickly.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Van Gundy said, quote, it started with a blockout drill, and five minutes later, Xavier McDaniel and Anthony were going around the gym throwing haymakers at each other. Wow. I think it set the tone for just how hard we were going to play that season. He came in to compete and back down from no one. So that's who we're dealing with. A guy will come in to a team, an established guy who's one of the psychopaths of the league and just say, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm going to throw punches at you up and down the practice floor. So he's not afraid of shit. Who was essentially, like Xavier McDaniel was the toughest man on every team he played for. Yeah, that was his role. He was the enforcer. That was his role. Now, 91-92, he plays for the Knicks here.
Starting point is 01:06:50 This is the team, Greg Anthony. They had Patrick Ewing, Mark Jackson, Xavier McDaniel. Charles Oakley just came over from Chicago. Starks. That was that. This is the beginning of that 90s team here. They'll have some different side guys that come in, but this is the main core of the team is in place right now.
Starting point is 01:07:08 They go 51-31 that year under Coach Pat Riley. They win the first round of the playoffs against the Pistons, 3-2, which was a big deal because the Pistons were the bad boy Pistons. So they kind of knocked them out because I think they were in the finals the year before, the Pistons. So they knocked them out of there, and then they end up losing. With the same team, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:29 It was the same team that won, and they come in and they get rolled by these guys. Yeah, and this was what Riley said in the beginning of the season when he got Mason and when he was getting these guys, is he was getting them because that's the only way you could fight with these guys. Because these guys had beaten the Lakers, who were like the finesse showtime Lakers that he coached. Then he went to New York and he said, I'm not going to get pushed around by these son of a bitches anymore. I'm going to get myself a big Debo looking son of a bitch and go in there and fuck people
Starting point is 01:07:56 up. Somebody's screaming, it's my bike, punk. I'm getting Mason, Xavier McDaniel, and Charles Oakley on the same team. So take that, Bill Lambert. And if you can get through those, you clumsy white fuck with your goggles, wait until Patrick Ewing throws his dick in your eye. This is besides Patrick Ewing, who's a monster person. Patrick Ewing's dick will break your goggles. Will break your face guard, whatever the hell that thing was.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah, what is that thing? It was a whole guard, wasn't it? I think he broke his nose at one point. It went over his cheekbones and everything. It looked so uncomfortable. It did. I think Rip Hamilton had to wear that for a while too same thing uh so also brutus the barber beefcake in the early 90s from wrestling had to wear that and the dude from the sixers this year i forget
Starting point is 01:08:33 yeah yeah yeah somebody else had to do it this year black guy named joel it's not pronounced joel but it's just bizarre his name is joel that's wrong is that yoel? I think they call it Joe. I think it's Joel, but it's still fucking Joel. I know what you're talking about. Billy Joel? He's my favorite. Going to the Billy Joel concert later. It's wonderful. Have you seen
Starting point is 01:08:58 Green Day? They're fronted by a guy named Billy Joel Armstrong. It's perfect. It's Joe, actually. Whatever. Billy Joel Armstrong. They lose to the Bulls in a seven-game series that year. And the Bulls, just as we know, this is the beginning of the Bulls dynasty. So as this will frustrate young James Petrogallo through my entire teenage years, I will be angry at the Bulls every year,
Starting point is 01:09:20 and I will never be happy at the end of a basketball season because my two teams are the Knicks and the Suns, which means I will toil in never, ever seeing a championship won for the rest of my fucking days. Hasn't happened since the early 70s, and I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. So they lose a seven-game series. They're all heartbreakers, too. The Suns were the last place team this year, I think. Yeah, they tried to lose.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Close to last place. They got the number one pick in the lottery. They couldn't even fucking lose correctly. Didn't they have the number one? place? They got the number one pick in the lottery. They couldn't even fucking lose correctly. Didn't they have the number one? No, I don't think so. That's the Suns. They'll try to lose and still be the ninth pick in the fucking draft because they're assholes. Can't do anything right. Can't do anything right. And the Knicks will get somebody wonderful
Starting point is 01:09:55 and be like, we don't need him anymore. We'll get fucking Carmelo Anthony instead. Whatever. Anyway, this year for the Knicks, he plays in all 82 games, plays 26.8 minutes a game, seven points a game, seven rebounds, 1.3 assists. So he's finding his role, makes $210,000 that year. That's a deal.
Starting point is 01:10:14 So yeah, you want to tuck your chain in your shirt when you're walking home on that one. So this year, 92-93 season, they finished 60-22 that year, first place in their division. Pat Riley is the coach still. Here, again, the playoffs, they go deep in the playoffs. Here, they win in the first round against the Pacers, 3-1, which was phenomenal. They beat the Hornets in the second, the new Hornets, because they were pretty new right then. They beat them 4-1, a quick series. And then they lose in six to the goddamn fucking
Starting point is 01:10:46 Bulls again in the Eastern Conference Finals. In six. This was horrible because the Bulls, what these assholes do, is first they beat the fucking Knicks in this one, which broke my heart because I wanted the Knicks to go to the finals. Then they go to the fucking finals and play the Suns
Starting point is 01:11:02 and beat them. God, I hated the fucking Bulls as you can imagine. Six in both series. I thought it was five. It was a pretty heartbreaking loss. It was ridiculous. Paxson hitting that three was pretty fucking...
Starting point is 01:11:16 Paxson, you twat. I hate you to this day. Mason, though... It's a brutal three. It's a brutal... It really hurt. That was a great season for the Suns, too. What's the coach's name? I forget his name. Paul Westfall. It's a brutal, it really, it hurt. That was a great season for the Suns, too, because that fucking, what was the coach's name? I forget his name. It doesn't matter. Paul Westfall. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And he's calling his fucking
Starting point is 01:11:30 shot, though. We're going to come back here, we're going to win, we're going to go there, we're going to win. When they come back here, we're going to win. And then they did it, and then they fucking lost. Braxton's going to hit a three, and we're going to lose. Yeah, where was that at, Westfall? Come on, Westfall, I see that in your predictions. Psychic. You clairvoyant fuck. You clairvoyant bastards. You clairvoyant bastard.
Starting point is 01:11:46 81 games for Mason this year. You left that shit out, you jerk. Come on. 81 games for Mason this year. 30.6 minutes per game. 10.3 points per game. 7.9 rebounds. 2.1 assists.
Starting point is 01:11:58 So he's finding his role. He's like a sixth man here. And his numbers are great for a sixth man. That's exactly what you want out of this guy. Did he start? He was a sixth man most of the time there. Yeah, I thought so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:09 He made $273,000 that year. You're talking. So now it's getting a little better. 93-94 season, 57-25 is the team under Coach Pat Riley again. This year, Jesus, the most heartbreaking of all. They beat the Nets 3-1, no problem, in the first round. They play the Bulls in the second round and fucking win in seven games. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:12:30 They beat them in seven. Oh, it was glorious. I believe that's when Michael Jordan was playing baseball. Wasn't quite as great. But it was still something. You still beat B.J. Armstrong. We still beat Tony Kukoc. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:12:44 All right? It's no problem. Then we go and the Knicks go and win a seven-game series against the Pacers after that, which was great because fucking Reggie Miller made me want to kill him. So that was great. Goddamn game. Fucking Houston Rockets in the finals, and I bitched about this before. Seven-game series.
Starting point is 01:13:03 John Starks going one for 19, I think, from three-point. And Pat Riley not pulling him out of the game. Just keep calling plays for fucking Starks to shoot threes. And we lose. Oh, God damn it. If he says just, hey, you know what? Just look for the pass first, John. We're fucking champions.
Starting point is 01:13:22 That's it. That's all he needed to do. Find Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson will put a two in every damn time. You have Ewing and Oakley and Mason. Throw it into them. They're huge.
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Starting point is 01:17:24 He was pissed at Pat Riley. Pat Riley was pissed at him. Pat Riley talked some media shit about him. He said, quote, the core objective of the New York Knicks has been and will always, and is and will always be team first and team last. The greatest challenge for a player who is part of a team is to voluntarily get out of himself and get with the program. So he's saying Mason's being selfish.
Starting point is 01:17:47 He says it's all about attitude, an attitude one takes to every game. Over the course of the year, you always have problems with some player, but at this point in the season, we don't have time for that. So fuck you, Mason, is what he's saying here. Mason played in 73 games that year. He started 12, 26.1 minutes a game, 7.2 points, 5.8 rebounds, 2.1 assists. He makes $1.1 million. It's a great
Starting point is 01:18:10 season. Not bad at all. Makes a mil. I mean, shit. He appears on In Living Color. So, okay. You went to the finals. You're having elbows with the Weyans? Yeah, fucking Jim Carrey and fucking Damon Weyans and David Alan Greer and all these fucking people. Yeah, fucking Jim Carrey and fucking Damon Wayans and David Alan Greer and all these fucking people.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Yeah. So he goes to the finals, makes a million dollars, and appears on A Living Color. Incredible. That's amazing, man. What a year. You can't get any better than that for a kid from New York. That's the shit right there. Three years ago, you played in Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And Tulsa, which is way worse than Venezuela. Or Turkey. Or really, most everywhere and Tulsa which is way worse than Venezuela or Turkey or really most everywhere it's just awful it's Turkey with a little bit better burger yeah they do have a fine burger in Tulsa I'll tell you that much that is one thing they can cook up with some beef down there uh so uh also he has that big like a time that's fucking awful it is he uh he has that big, like a tie. That's fucking awful. It is. He has the big profile in New York Magazine comes out now, too, that we talked about earlier with the writer who was really. Really thrilled with his big purple bowl. He really was. They're talking about his house, okay, his apartment here.
Starting point is 01:19:19 And let's let the writer take over here. Okay. This is what I mean. He's talking about Anthony Mason, mind you. And he says, this is made abundantly clear by the centerpiece of the room. Two giant samurai swords set in an ornate holder,
Starting point is 01:19:30 the base of which accommodates an electronic running type machine and programmed to continually repeat in red letters, sit down and don't touch shit. The master of the house
Starting point is 01:19:40 will be with you shortly. He's vacuuming. That's an, I want that sign. That's pretty good shit. Sit down and don't touch shit. So he's vacuuming, and they said, you know, when this reporter gets there, and he says, Mason says, I don't like a mess. He customed that message just for that reporter.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Not just for anybody. I think it's just that's what he has in his living room. No, he customed it for him because he's not vacuuming all day long. You know what I mean? He says he doesn't like a mess. First of all, too, he's got a condo in White Plains, which is an odd place for one of the Knicks to live in. I know what I'll do. I'm going to be in White Plains.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Fuck out of this city. You know, I was thinking Yonkers, but I decided White Plains is the way to go. So at this point here, he's living with his girlfriend Latifa and also their two-year-old son because he had another son in 1992 named Antoine. So he's got another son there. And he's Anthony derivative. Yeah. I was going to say he named Anthony Jr. and Antoine, which is pretty much Anthony. It's French Anthony.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Yeah. What the fuck? I think he went around going, what else can I call this motherfucker that's just like Anthony? Antoine? All right. So, yeah, he's sitting here. They're saying how it's sparsely decorated. He's got an NBA Jam Tournament Edition arcade game,
Starting point is 01:20:54 which, fuck, I would kill to have that. Today, that's rad. Right now, I would love to have the NBA Jam arcade game. Holy shit. That's great. He said the one with me on it. That's the one, obviously. He's got a shoe room, which is amazing.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Makes sense. He's got tons of Adidas mainly. He's got that sort of thing here. He's 258 pounds at this point, he says here. He says cleanliness is next to godliness as he vacuums. Okay. All right. His mom is also there, and his told her, told him, quote,
Starting point is 01:21:26 pudding you cleaned up real nice. Pudding. Pudding, she's calling him. And then she says, Anthony is such a good boy, he always kept his room in order. Okay. She just acts like he's 12.
Starting point is 01:21:36 It's fucking hilarious. I love it so much. He's a 30-year-old man. Oh, and here he says that he plans, at the end of the article, he says he plans on going into criminal justice
Starting point is 01:21:44 after he retires, quote, except the end of the article, he says he plans on going into criminal justice after he retires. Quote, except I ain't decided what side yet. You've got a felony. Yeah. You'll have more, too. Don't worry. Don't worry. You're going into criminal justice.
Starting point is 01:21:55 The world will decide for you which side you'll be on. Here. Before the next season, before 94-95, the Knicks offer him an extension, a contract extension, a three-year, $9 million extension. And he says, eat dicks. I don't want that shit. I'm going to play my way into a better contract because he's a free agent after next year. Got it. So he says, I'm going to play this year, bet on myself, and take my fucking chances.
Starting point is 01:22:16 How's that? Which, fuck, I love that shit. You got to admire anyone who bets on themselves like that and says, I'm going to make more based on my performance. It's like what you do, you son of a bitch. Yeah, we bet on ourselves, goddammit. That's right. Fucking right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah, fuck that shit. I know what I'm capable of and nobody will outwork me. That's it. That's beautiful. That's why we're doing a podcast and not waiting for someone to book us at stand-up clubs back in the day. Do it all on our own. Let's just do this. clubs back in the day.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Do it all on our own. Let's just do this. So he, rather than working hard and doing more sets and trying harder, he ends up in November of 1994 being in a brawl at a restaurant. Yeah. It's called a club. They call it an Upper East Side Club in New York. It's the One Fish, Two Fish restaurant. He's accused of beating a man there, obviously.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Probably did. Never know. fish to fish restaurant uh he's accused of beating a man yeah uh there obviously probably did never know uh this is now december 6th 1994 uh this man thomas laughlin who's an electrician from queens sues mason for 25 million dollars uh following this brawl he says that mason punched him in the jaw and kicked him several times okay but, but this is during the time of super frivolous lawsuits, too. Kind of. You know what I mean? Yeah. $25 million is pretty fucking steep. $25 million is a little steep for a nightclub beating.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Right. To get punched and kicked a couple of times? Come on. I feel like walking into a nightclub, you're automatically half responsible right there. You're like 48% responsible right then just for being there. As soon as you pay the cover, you go. 48%. You're assuming i
Starting point is 01:23:45 acknowledge that tonight may be a bad night you're assuming 48 response 48 percent responsibility for an ass kicking right there right there just it doesn't matter you were there you didn't have to be there may graze somebody's wife's ass you didn't have to be there the club is not required that's why i say the club is not a required part of what you're doing. It's not like I was in a nice restaurant with my family and some guy came. That's not what happened. You're at a club at night. You know what's there.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So, sorry. Sorry. I've worked at fucking bars. I've been a bouncer. You know what you're in for. Completely agree. It's so true. You don't see bouncers out in front of fucking Olive Garden.
Starting point is 01:24:24 No, for a reason right that's right there's not a bouncer outside of ruby tuesday no there's not a bouncer outside of the olive garden dragging some guy out who took his grandma to dinner for her birthday like that's not how that's not what happened busted knuckles i say birthday funny fuck you guys that's my accent i try to cover it up somebody tweet does he say birthday yeah i'm sorry i'm trying my best you have an accent you grow up with your whole life try to cover it up. Somebody tweet, does he say birthday? Yeah, I'm sorry. I try my best. You have an accent and you grow up with it your whole life and then cover it up
Starting point is 01:24:49 98% of the time. Once in a while a word creeps through. I try my ass. People tweet me all the time or snap me or whatever. James says birthday funny. I go, yeah, I get it. He also says frustrated and ruined. We're not going to sorry all of it's very
Starting point is 01:25:07 all of it's very frustrating for me too but listen just get through the it's a fucking great story who cares about three fucking words he says who gives a shit i don't give a shit i'll say them more now go fuck yourselves honestly seriously i could have so much more I could have so much worse of an accent. So much worse. You have no idea. And I cover it for you people. So, you know what? Give me some goddamn credit for the effort.
Starting point is 01:25:32 You got me saying horrible. There you go. I pronounced that O fucked up now. There you go. So. All right. So this team here, the 94-95 Knicks here, this is really getting into fun times. They're 55-27 under Pat Riley. I forget how long they were so good.
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Starting point is 01:25:58 They were good for years. Bulls and then them in the Heat later on. So they finished second in their division there. They win the first round of the playoffs against Cleveland, the most boring team in history. That was that Brad Doherty, Mark Price team where they would run the clock down. They'd run the shot clock down. They'd win games like 63 to 60, and it was painful. Fucking annoying. Oh, God. That's worse than you saying birthday.
Starting point is 01:26:23 So bad. And then they lose in a seven-game series to pacers uh in the eastern conference semifinals that is the one i believe where reggie miller scored like 11 points in nine seconds ridiculous yeah that was i watched that game like three three-pointers and a layup in no time i came inside from playing basketball to watch the end of this game and i'm sitting there like, what the fuck? Are you kidding me? I should have stayed out. How is that guy a basketball player, by the way?
Starting point is 01:26:51 Unreal. He looks zero athletic. No. He looks like Anthony Mason when he first got to high school. That's what he looks like. Never developed. Never developed. He looks like somebody stretched him with horses and he didn't break. And they're like, ah, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Let him be. He's like a Gumby that's been worn out Gumby. So that year, though. Stretch Armstrong with all the elasticity gone. Fuck, man. Anthony Mason has a good year that year. 11 games started and 77 games played. 32.4 minutes a game.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Hold on. 9.9 points a game. 8.4 rebounds. 3.1 assists. Do you know when I first saw his sister, I thought it was a joke? Yeah, they're the same size. They look identical.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I was like, could somebody really put a wig on? Oh my God, that's a real woman. Him pulling a De La Hoya. That's what it really looks like. So terrible. I'm an asshole. I really am. Well, that's true, though. We all did that.
Starting point is 01:27:46 We all went, why do you have a wig on? Oh, he has a sister? Shit. So he also wins NBA sixth man of the year this year. All right. So when you're up for a contract, that's a good stat to have under your belt there. He also made $1.2 million that year. So not bad.
Starting point is 01:28:03 But after the season, after all this, now he's a free agent. Now the team signs him to a six-year, $24 million contract. There's a deal. So he bet on himself. He made an extra $18 million. So not bad. Or $16 million. I think it was $8 million he got offered originally.
Starting point is 01:28:17 So not too bad. The general manager, Ernie Grunfeld, said, quote, he rolled the dice and it came up seven. Anthony got rewarded. He got what he wanted, a contract that he earned. So good for you. Now things are great for him. His son Anthony Jr. talks about these times when his dad was a player.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Very well paid. It was a little different for him, though. He says, quote, I lived with my mom during the years my father played in the league, but I always had access to my dad. When I was able to visit, I was able to see many things I wouldn't see back home in Memphis, Tennessee. I would always tell people I had the best of both worlds growing up because I saw the light and the dark things. My pops had access to the world. Then I'm coming back to high school in Memphis, Tennessee, growing up kind of rough.
Starting point is 01:28:59 My mom was a substitute teacher and worked at Walgreens. I've seen it from that standpoint, too. So Anthony didn't make sure that they were living very, very well. Apparently, no. Apparently, he didn't make sure they were living very well. Apparently, she wasn't getting five grand a month in child support or anything like that from him because she
Starting point is 01:29:15 probably got, who knows, child support from when he was in college, for Christ's sake. I mean, he was a junior in college when they had him. So I could see that. He said, quote, I've been dealing with death, Mason Jr. says. My friends got shot. Little brother got shot. My father just – my grandmother just passed.
Starting point is 01:29:34 So it's a – Yeah. So he's had tragedy in his life and he's had some stuff here. It's interesting here. Now, 1995, there's an article about Fiedler and about their relationship. And it's, it's kind of, uh, it's kind of, uh, uh, uh, one of these things where it's just, just like a, it's, he's keeping up with him and it's, it's funny how much Anthony Mason keeps up with his, he's a weird guy.
Starting point is 01:29:59 And this is what we have to talk about. There's a total dichotomy going on with this guy. Okay. He's got the on thethe-court persona, which is this fucking hard-ass, bad-ass dude that'll fight people and run through people. He's got like a street rep
Starting point is 01:30:13 thing going on also, where he'll fuck you up in a nightclub, and he'll do shit like that. But then he's got this other side, where he hangs out with his mom all the time, and worries about vacuuming his fucking carpet and next to godliness james gets what i mean and like and is very close to his high school coach and make sure his coach gets to all his games and all that kind of shit there's such a
Starting point is 01:30:35 weird dichotomy with this guy which i guess he's just a human that's all it is but he really seems to live too he has like just two separate things he's got like this home thing and then he's got like this public persona. It's very, very strange. Mason said, quote, about Fiedler. He said, quote, he doesn't just use a kid for his talent and then forget about him. He's been in touch with me through college and all the way up to where I'm at now. He takes kids under his wings. You don't find many coaches like that.
Starting point is 01:31:06 He'll defend you. You got $25 million, Anthony. He'll defend you when you get arrested. He's really a great guy. He said that the Fiedler said that Anthony wanted him to be at every game. He said, God forbid something was happening, and I was almost there. And I was there almost every time he played in New York if I could get there. After this one game, he says, how are you getting home, Dad?
Starting point is 01:31:26 I said, I'll go back on the train. He said, no, you're not. I'm driving you home. And he said he didn't want to be a burden on him, but Mason would insist on driving him home out of his way before he'd go out and party because it's not like he was going to go, okay, I'll see you.
Starting point is 01:31:38 I'm going to go to bed now. And he's like, I got to go kick a guy in the chest in a nightclub. It's not like he was going home for rest time now. I'm going to party anyway. I may as well drop you off. I'll drop you off here. You don't want to come out for that.
Starting point is 01:31:52 You're on the way to the club anyway. It's all good. There's not a lot of old white guys there, so we're going to drop you off. He said, Fiedler said, quote, we get out from under the tunnel at the garden and there is a whole mob of people. Ewing is in front of us. He signs maybe one or two autographs and then puts up his windows and takes off. Anthony didn't like him because of that. I said,
Starting point is 01:32:09 boy, he didn't have time to take care of a few more minutes. So they were just like... How about that? Yeah. So he said, Anthony stays there for 35 minutes sitting in the car and signs for everybody waiting for him. There was nobody that could say he didn't want to sign. He signed for every single one.
Starting point is 01:32:25 He was always that way. If you stopped him, he'd talk to you. I always tried to instill in him to take care of the fans and not turn people away, and he never did. People would come up to Anthony while he was eating, and he would stop his dinner in the middle of eating to sign autographs. He had a heart of gold. If you were good to anybody, he took that up. That was him. Incidentally, his autographs were 75 cents.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I was going to say, nowadays. He flooded the market with them. Yeah, because everybody fucking has one now. Everybody has like a napkin from his clubs. With the victim's blood on it and a sign. This one has a stain from Anthony's dinner. He actually used it to wipe his mouth and then signed it for me. So, 95, 96 season, Pat Riley leaves and goes to miami right and uh don nelson comes in who's
Starting point is 01:33:07 crazy ass don nelson uh if you know basketball from the 90s and 80s and he was a fucking nuggets coach wasn't yeah yeah yeah that's coach golden state all over the place everywhere uh he loved the anthony's passing because he's such a good passer yeah He ran the offense through Anthony Mason. Is he who got choked by Sprewell? No, that's Rudy. Tom Jonovich? No, not Tom Jonovich. No, not him. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:33:36 P.J. Carlissimo. Oh, it was Carlissimo. It was Carlissimo. That's awesome. That makes it so much better. Not Tom Jonovich. He's like 6'8". He'll hit you back.
Starting point is 01:33:45 I don't think Sprewell could get his fucking hands around that guy's fat neck. He's a big, ugly-looking dude, Tomjanovich, too. God, another Easter Island face. Looked like he loved saying the word cock. Like, it was his favorite word. Don Nelson runs the offense through him. So this is the year where Mason was bringing the ball up the court, which looked ridiculous. This giant guy dribbling this tiny little basketball up the court.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Slapping it. Yeah. It looked really silly, but he was good at it. Well, he watched a lot of Slap Chop videos. That's what it was. Yeah. He's very much into Ron Popeil. That's what it was, as we know.
Starting point is 01:34:18 So November 7th, 1995, this is right before the season starts. He talks some shit here. He says that playing at the Garden should be an advantage for the team, but he's not sure it's always the case because he said the team was booed in two losses there in the preseason, and he doesn't want to see that anymore. And he says, in their own words, quote, It's annoying to get booed because we've never been a team not to play hard. We give them one or two games where we don't do well, especially in the middle of a learning process, and we get booed because we've never been a team not to play hard. We give them one or two games where we don't do well,
Starting point is 01:34:46 especially in the middle of a learning process, and we get booed. People here either boo or cheer. They sometimes do it in the same game. You win ten in a row, and then you lose and get booed. That's just the way it is here. People are really quick to judge. That's fucking New York. That's New York, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:59 You have to win all the time or else they hate you. That's how it works there. That's how it works there. Try playing in Philly, fuckface. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's fine. Philly, even if you win, they else they hate you. That's how it works there. Try playing in Philly, fuckface. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's fine. Even if you win, they don't like you. They're still mad at you for some reason. At least in New York, if they win, they'll give you some slack.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Of course, if they win, they'll go, yeah, of course, you should have fucking won. That's the thing. That fucking good team, of course you won. Jesus, you're fucking losers. You just won. There's a parade with ticker tape and people are calling you a loser. Wait until the Eagles don't repeat this year.
Starting point is 01:35:29 People were mad at them still. Now, we were there. We had to wait that many years. You just won. Yeah. Christ, there's a funny thing here. This is when the Raptors were new, the Toronto Raptors. Raptors and Grizzlies.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Don't let people vote on a team name. You end up with the Raptors because Jurassic Park was popular. Dumb. So stupid. And a former Raptors employee talks about a ceremony held at the home stadium right before the game against the Knicks. And apparently Oakley and Mason were making fun of the players for their shitty jerseys because they had like a big stupid dinosaur on them. The big red one. They were really goofy when they first came out.
Starting point is 01:36:06 It was purple, and then on the strap over the shoulder, it had dinosaur teeth. They're goofy now. Back then, they were cartoon. They were like children's. They were sold at Disneyland. They were part of the Space Jam monster team or something, and they were the stupidest-looking fucking jerseys.
Starting point is 01:36:24 This year, they figured out how to make their logo cool, though, because they've got like a basketball with like a dinosaur. I mean, it's still fucking dumb. It's never going to be cool until you change your name. In my head I saw it and I was like, it's cool. And then you're like, then there's a dinosaur? Never mind. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That's cool if I'm eight. There's this really cool dinosaur and he comes up and bites the basketball. No, it's got like the fucking hand, the paw, the foot, whatever it's called. It's on the ball. It looks kind of cool. It's ridiculous. It's dumb as fuck. And apparently Mason and Oakley were mocking the players beforehand.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Marcus Camby. And what they said was hilarious. First of all, what bogley says not the most pc thing in the world mind you charles oakley is fucking brilliant he's brilliant oh he's really smart yeah he is and he's also hilarious and he's also if coming from a giant black guy this is hilarious with other giant black guys he says this is from across the floor at these guys and i mean the crowd can hear you, this is from across the floor at these guys. And I mean, the crowd can hear you.
Starting point is 01:37:26 He's yelling from across the floor. The guy 10 feet behind you in the crowd. He says, quote, those jerseys come with cum stains on them because they're the gayest fucking things I've ever seen. He said that shit in 1997. 1996. Those jerseys come with cum stains on them because they're the gayest fucking things I've ever seen. Your name written in jizz on the back of that?
Starting point is 01:37:49 Is that what that is? I see white writing. How amazing is that? Does that say Marcus Cumby on your back? Dude, how amazing is that? And then Mason, that was what Oakley would be. Oh, it's so great. Oakley shouting it.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Mason waits until a guy comes close and he says, dinosaurs, brother. If I was you, I'd fucking kill myself. That's what he tells him, which is fucking hilarious. Dinosaurs, brother. Really? For real? You can picture him with his eyebrows up, like shit carved in his head. For real. Remember when you had a dream to play, like, shit carved in his head. For real.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Remember when you had a dream to play in the NBA, and now you got a dinosaur on your chest? If I was you, I'd fucking kill myself, which is the greatest fucking line. Next to those jerseys come with cum stains on them. That is fucking great. Oh, God, that's amazing. Why'd you like those guys I don't know that's why because that's hilarious that's great the guys now would have
Starting point is 01:38:50 some fucking non offensive answer about how he thinks the dinosaurs are great to maybe get the youth market more involved they'd be like I'd fucking kill myself that's what I like that's awesome wow so dinosaurs bro dinosaurs brother that's what he said come on man he said brother
Starting point is 01:39:10 like it's serious like listen brother i need to talk to you about that's like what black dudes will say when they're serious about shit brother come here like he said dinosaurs brother like we need to have an intervention about this shit god jesus that's awesome it really is i wish i wish the players were would have been at that meeting when they were picking they should have just been like i ain't wearing that shit those look like pajamas man i ain't wearing that shit they those come with feedies on them i'm not fucking wearing them no it's got a giant red dinosaur on it it looks like a cartoon back then too it wasn't even like a mean looking dinosaur it was like a big friendly it was like clifford the big red dinosaur that's what it looked like like a cartoon back then, too. It wasn't even like a mean-looking dinosaur. It was like a big, friendly... It was like Clifford the Big Red Dinosaur.
Starting point is 01:39:46 That's what it looked like. Like a big, friendly fucking dinosaur. So embarrassing. Purple and red and black and white. Just the worst colors together. Disgusting. Jesus. Even Vince Carter viciously wrecking the rim doesn't save that stupid fucking jersey.
Starting point is 01:40:04 May as well be the big, juicy hot dogs, you fucking idiots. That would be better. At least I like hot dogs. At least hot dogs are real. At least they exist still. That's awesome. So January 22, 1996, with the taste of the Raptors jerseys out of their mouths here, a patron of the Crane Club in New York City, Upper West Side nightclub, accuses Mason of attacking him in a brawl outside the club.
Starting point is 01:40:29 The guy's name is Robert Towns. He tells police that Mason was among several people who beat him at 4 o'clock in the morning in a fight. Mason, of course, denies hitting anyone. 4 o'clock in the morning, you're at the club once again. You're now 68% responsible. I don't care who hits you. Why don't you be there? If you're at a club past two, it goes to 68% from 48.
Starting point is 01:40:50 It's all on you. It's like 96% responsible at that point. You're asking for trouble. Barring a man waiting by the door and you walking out and he just cold cocks you. Outside of that, it's all on you. Unless you came to the door going, I'm here to pick up my friend who's too drunk to drive home and called me, and I'm going to be his designated driver. Ouch! Why'd that man hit
Starting point is 01:41:10 me? Unless that's you, you're fucking responsible. You're there. You're all drunk. You're all acting like assholes. Anyway, so you think about that. That's January 22, 96. So, you know, hey, stay out of the nightclubs. February 6, 1996, Knicks player Anthony Tucker is charged with punching a cop.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Oh, fuck. Now, this is, oh, my God. Okay. All of these things are wrong. Okay. Charged with punching a cop outside of a Midtown Manhattan birthday party for Bobby Brown, the singer. Oh, my God. Why are you with Bobby Brown?
Starting point is 01:41:45 Oh, for fuck's sake. Don't go to clubs late. Right. Don't hang out with Bobby Brown ever. And then don't punch cops when the party's over. What the fuck are you doing? Mason, of course, right there also. Of course.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Cops say Mason was on the street, but didn't hit any police officers. Luckily, that's good. But he was at a middle- the night birthday party for bobby brown yeah so and this is you know there was coke there way too late to be hanging out with bobby brown this is 96 bobby brown this is when all he was doing was coke right like he couldn't even do the dance moves anymore oh crack by then yeah crack was like late 90s early 2000s i'm thinking it was probably still fun and coke by now you know hey it's still funny that you see bobby brown doing coke he still has like an album coming out and then by like 2000
Starting point is 01:42:30 you're like hey bobby you haven't released an album in like five years and what do you smell that's crack okay what does that smell oh it's a glass pipe so it's free base gotcha all right then so very nice uh is that a light bulb? Does your pipe say GE on it? What are you doing? April 16th, 1996 at the China Club. If you're not a New York person and you've seen the Chappelle show. You don't want to be there. That is where Rick James reportedly punched Charlie Murphy in the forehead.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Charlie Murphy punched Rick James in the forehead. He's at the China Club. So this here. Rest in peace, Charlie. Yeah. Mason has a similar night when he is accused of punching a 25-year-old Darlene Bonilla in the left eye. That is a woman. That's a woman.
Starting point is 01:43:19 What the fuck? A New Jersey woman. Oh, my God. So some bridge and tunnel broad came over to the China Club, and he punched her in the fucking eye. Caught one in the eye. And the messed up part is he ended up actually getting the brunt of it, because when he pulled his hand back, there was so much eye makeup and fake lashes on it. He said, this is never going to come off, you fucking 1996 New Jersey bridge and tunnel troll. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Unbelievable. He tried to deny it, but when the cops came, his hand was stuck in her hair by Aquanet, and he couldn't get it off, so they said, you at least grabbed her by the hair. At minimum. At minimum. So April 25th, 96, this is nine days later, he appears on New York Undercover, the TV show. Oh, dude, Jesus. Remember that show?
Starting point is 01:44:04 It's the No Greater Love episode. I don't know. I never watched New York Undercover, but it was apparently supposedly a good show about undercover New York cops. I don't fucking know. Back then, that's when NYPD Blue came out and all that shit. They're like, NYPD Blue is popular. Law and Order is popular.
Starting point is 01:44:21 We'll get badges on people and put them in New York City, and that's a show. Was 21 Jump Street there, too? I don't remember. I never watched 21 Jump Street. I bet it was. It probably was. It probably was. I assume it was.
Starting point is 01:44:30 It's there, Chicago, or L.A. One of the three. I was going to say, I think it's L.A., if I'm being honest here. I wouldn't be surprised. But either way, it's a big city. It's a city. It's a city. He plays the recruiter in that episode.
Starting point is 01:44:40 I don't know what the fuck that means. I didn't bother to watch it, because who cares? Anyway, April 30th, 1996, more interesting things happen. Mason is named in a $54 million lawsuit. My fuck. By three patrons of the China Club on the Upper West Side there, saying Anthony Mason and three bouncers beat them all up last summer, these three people. What?
Starting point is 01:45:04 He joined the bouncers in beating him. What was he doing? They said— This was last year, by the way. This wasn't the one that just happened with the girl. This is one from the last summer. He fell out of W-2 after that beating? Is now he works there?
Starting point is 01:45:17 I think so. Might as well. Yeah, they gave him a shirt and put it on over his jersey. Here you go. It was a China Club security shirt. Beat that guy up, would you? Alice Kupferberg is the lawyer for the plaintiffs. They say that the fracas began with arguing, shoving, and hitting Mason's table at the China Club at about 3.45 a.m. on July 25th of last year.
Starting point is 01:45:41 She said her clients, among a party of eight, tried to leave when all of a sudden a melee spilled onto their table. So she's saying her clients had nothing to do with this. There was a fracas at Anthony Mason's table. Somebody was fucking with him. This spilled over onto her. Then they say one of them, Hassan Kurdi, who was 24,
Starting point is 01:46:00 was cut under his left eye with a broken champagne bottle. And another Haktisha was cut under his left eye with a broken champagne bottle. Whoa. And another H-A-T-I-X-H-A? What the fuck is that? That sounds like a Chinese river. That sounds awful. That's the Haktisha, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:20 That's a carpet cleaner. Zerika, who goes by Gigi, luckily, was pushed over a table. Bouncers rushed in and roughed up the group of eight as they tried to leave. I guess they helped them along leaving. And she said that Mason joined the bouncers in assaulting their club. So they claim that Mason got up from the table and was like, that's a good idea, fucking those people up. I'm going to do it, too. Even though the employees got under control, fuck that. table and was like that's a good idea fucking those people up i'm gonna do it too even though
Starting point is 01:46:45 the employees got under control fuck that i heard her spell her name to somebody i need to punch her i need to punch her they said several of the clients were of her clients were arrested and she said the police ignored the complaints against mason and uh demeaned them with ethnic slurs he said the cops uh these are albanian people and and they live in yonkers and they uh demean them with ethnic slurs. He said the cops, these are Albanian people, and they live in Yonkers, and they demean them with ethnic slurs. And if you've ever known any Albanians, A, you would never know their, unless they're speaking Albanian, you don't know their ethnic because they look super fucking white.
Starting point is 01:47:17 And B, they will cut your fucking head off with a sword if you make fun of them. So I don't believe any of this. I know Albanians. They're the craziest people I know. The only thing I know about them is they pierce their fucking face. Well, he's not really Albanian. They're a hardy folk, those Albanians. He looks Albanian.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Who? Lou Albano. Oh, Lou Albano. Yeah, no. Lou Albano is not Albanian, as we've got over before. He is definitely not Albanian. But when I think Albanian, I think that guy and that man's a lunatic. I've told the story about my... After the senior prom, there was a big party at an Albanian guy.
Starting point is 01:47:49 A guy named Frank is an Albanian kid. His father was from Albania. Big party at his house. State troopers, cops swarm the house. He comes out screaming an Albanian, screaming at these cops to get the fuck off his property. Who do you think you are? Fuck you. You get off my bike.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Stick gun up your ass. You put gun on me in my own fucking house. I fucking kill you. And I'm like, your dad's going to die. They're going to shoot him. This is the last time you're going to wake up to your dad. He's swinging his hands around. I shove gun up your ass as they're pointing a gun at him at two in the morning.
Starting point is 01:48:18 And he's in his fucking underwear. He's in his underwear. He's going to die in DVDs. In front of 600 high school kids who just went to the prom. Screaming he's going to shove a gun up a cop's ass, to which we cheer, obviously. Yay! You tell them. You tell them.
Starting point is 01:48:35 And then we hit our weed and ran. So, Jesus Christ, man. So this whole thing here, the suit was filed in Manhattan Supreme Court there. Names Mason, the club, and two of the bouncers, and the maitre d' as defendants. Maitre d's are roughing up people. Each plaintiff is seeking $6 million from Mason and $12 million from the club and its employees. General manager of the China club said, quote, this is what we call in the business a copycat lawsuit because I guess other ones have there.
Starting point is 01:49:08 He's referring to the one by Darlene Bonilla, who is also suing him for a China Club incident. Barrett, who is the general manager of the China Club, said, quote, he did absolutely nothing to her. We had nothing to do with these Albanians. When people are fighting, we try to separate. We had nothing to do with these Albanians. When people are fighting, we try to separate them and get them out of the corner. We had nothing to do with these Albanians. That's my favorite line of this entire show.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Hey, we had nothing to do with these fucking Albanians. I'll tell you that right now. Look, I don't know what they're telling you. I wouldn't say patrons or people. Nope. Very specific. I'm surprised it wasn't a fucking two. We had nothing to do with these fucking Albanians.
Starting point is 01:49:43 I'm telling you. They come into this country. They open up pizza places left and right. They ain't Italian. They ain't Italian. That's – by the way, if you ate a pizza in New York any time in the 80s or 90s, it was made by an Albanian man. They were all the pizza chefs for Albanian. Every pizza place I worked at, they make a fucking hell of a pie. I can't.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Now, Don Cronson, Mason's agent, also reiterated that. He said, quote, a copycat suit, just another instance of somebody trying to get a piece of the action, or another instance of someone being punched in the face in a nightclub. Either or. That's what happens in nightclubs. One of the two. That's why I don't go to those things. I mean, granted, I don't want to stay up that fucking late anyway.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Spend all that money. Right. It's just so dumb. It is. What are you there for? You're there trying to fuck somebody. That's what you're there for. Just go the fuck home.
Starting point is 01:50:30 You're there trying to get laid. Yeah, that's it right there. So I don't understand it either. I don't care about them. I'm not that horny where I'm going to put up with loud music and annoying people and booze. I'm just not putting up with it. I don't care. I've never been that horny.
Starting point is 01:50:42 It's not even the loud music and the booze. You have to buy overpriced drinks for somebody. I'm not doing the whole scene. No, I don't want... I'm not doing it. I'm not getting played. And I got to take a shower for this shit. No, not happening.
Starting point is 01:50:53 No, put on cologne I don't like. Fuck you. Right. No, I'm going to stay home. I'm going to try and impress somebody. No, thank you. No, thank you. I impress myself and nobody makes me cum like I do.
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Starting point is 01:52:22 Obviously, they do go to the playoffs. They win in the first round against the Cavaliers. They sweep 3-0. And then they play the Bulls in the playoffs with Jordan back. And this is a 4-1. It's a five-game series, and we lose. And it was pretty ugly. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Jordan with his 45. Yeah, he's wearing it. I think this is the one where that's the playoffs where he switched. He went back to 23? Mid-playoff series. He pops out one game with a 23. You're like, you fucking bastard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:49 You son of a bitch. How dare you? You pandering fuck. Yeah. Fucking asshole. Now, Mason plays in 82 games, starts all 82 games, 42.2 minutes per game leading the league. Wow. That's just never getting out.
Starting point is 01:53:02 No. That's ridiculous. It's a 48-minute game. It's taking a break to get a drink and jump right back in here. Get some water, Mace, and then he hops right back in there. I've got to wipe this sweat off. There's so much. I've just got to wipe it off. I'll be right back in. With my bald head. It's
Starting point is 01:53:15 14.6 points a game, 9.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists. He makes $3,472,000 for this year. That was so good. Now we're cooking here. May 31, 1996, he appears in the film Eddie, which is that terrible movie with Whoopi Goldberg as a basketball coach. Avery Johnson was in it, too. Everybody was in it.
Starting point is 01:53:34 As a NYC cab driver turned Knicks coach, which is a very realistic premise. Obviously wonderful. July 14, 1996, he's traded by the Knicks. This broke all of our hearts. Traded by the Knicks with Brad Lohas, who I only remember from because nobody watched Milwaukee Bucks games in the 90s because they were terrible. I only remember from
Starting point is 01:53:56 NBA Jam being the other guy on the Bucks. It was Vin Baker and we called him Blowhoss because he was B. Lohas. So we're like it's fucking Baker and Blowhoss. Take him. He was a big blonde guy who sucked. So it was Baker, Lohoss, and then Robinson, too, right?
Starting point is 01:54:13 Later when he came along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking like the Super Nintendo 1994 NBA Jam version. It was Blowhoss? They put that fucking jerk off. That's all they had. It was fucking Baker and Blowhoss. Got to have Blowhoss in there.
Starting point is 01:54:27 I didn't think it was Baker back then. Yeah, then Todd Day was later on. He came in. They trade with Blowhoss to the Hornets for grandmama himself, Larry Johnson. You don't remember him. He used to have commercials where he would dunk wearing a Big Mama costume, basically, like Martin Lawrence in Big Mama's house. That's a great point.
Starting point is 01:54:47 That's what it was. Fuck you, Tyler Perry. Fuck you, Martin Lawrence. They both stole. It's just Grandma Ma. Well, I mean, I think it's also Flip Wilson from the fucking 60s also. I think they're stealing from Flip Wilson, who then stole from Grandma Ma. It's kind of a generational, every fucking 10 years.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Flip Wilson had that character. I don't remember her name, but it was a black woman. Same shit. It was fucking Grammy or something. It was not. That is very racist. I think it is. Yeah. This is coming from a guy who just did Jose Crisp is going.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Come on. Everybody follow me. What are we doing? What are we doing? So July 24th, 19. this is July 14th, 96. So Charlotte's got a fresh Anthony Mason ready. So Charlotte's got Del Curry and Wingate and Alonzo. No, Alonzo's down in Miami now.
Starting point is 01:55:39 This is when the fucking Charlotte Hornets fell apart. This is Muggsy Bogues, Burrell, Tom Chambers at the end of this, Del Curry, Tony Delk. This is when they had Divock. Remember when they got Divock from the Lakers there? Mason, Ricky Pierce. This is disappointing. This is not the fun early 90s.
Starting point is 01:55:57 This is all like A's men. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Except for Bogues. I loved Muggsy so much. He was great. So July 24th, 96, 10 days later, Mason is arrested on assault charges. Oh, my God. For brawling with cops in Times Square over a traffic ticket.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Why is he in New York? Why is he? Exactly. Why are you in New York? His crime and sports rules say stay away from home. You don't go home? He's going home and naming his kid Junior and carving the city. We're going to add a new crime and sports rule.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Don't carve anything in your head. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Not a single logo. Especially the city you play in, the logo, a dinosaur eating a basketball, nothing. So this whole thing, there was a loud dispute with others at about 3 a.m. at 43rd Street and 8th Avenue, which is not far from where I was staying over there.
Starting point is 01:56:40 This here, Jesus, a bunch of cops tried to calm the situation down. Basically, Mason was getting a ticket and didn't want to get a ticket, and he went to his trunk to get his identification, I guess, and cops were trying to calm it down. And while that happened, Mason attacked him, attacked the police officers, several, three of whom suffered minor injuries. Mason was handcuffed and taken to the Midtown South Precinct headquarters where he was booked on assault, menacing and resisting arrest charges.
Starting point is 01:57:11 He says about, this is a quote from this time that I figure kind of encompasses his whole 95 and 96. He says, quote, I'm not a person that you're going to say something smart to, and I'm not going to fire back. He's got a point. We've realized that, Mace. So, yeah, he's released on $2,500 bail. The next day, he apologizes to the arresting officer and admitted that the scuffle went too far.
Starting point is 01:57:37 He said, quote, I'd had a few beers. This is what he told the cop. You shouldn't say that. He told the cop this. This was at 6 a.m., by the way. Oh, my God. He says, I've had a few beers, Officer Ortiz. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I have two children. It did not have to go that far, he said, which is, yeah, I would say so. I love when menacing is always tacked on. It's just when you're that big. Everything's menacing. No matter what you do, they're just going to throw menacing on there because you're fucking menacing. Yeah. Well, fuck.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Apparently, he's arrested. They tried to arrest him after he threatened to punch Alberto Ortiz, who was ticketing his BMW, his black Beamer, for being in a no standing zone. You can't park anywhere around there. You should know that. It took 10 cops to handcuff him because he was pissed off and huge. And that's where he was charged with the resisting arrest and all that. Police spokesman said, quote, he resisted arrest.
Starting point is 01:58:24 He kicked and swung his arms to get away. He said, fuck you, that kind of stuff. The other officers grabbed him by the arms and he started flailing. But Mason's lawyer blamed the cops for overreacting when Mason complained about being ticketed as he and some friends stopped for some food at an all-night deli. That's all it was. He said Mason was seated in the car when cops tried to ticket him. He said, quote, there was no incident and there should have been no arrest. It appears that
Starting point is 01:58:50 a more tactful position by the police would have been more appropriate. Unfortunately, it escalated verbally. And then he started swinging his arms around when cops tried to put cuffs on you, which you can never fucking do. That's a bad sign. Unfortunately, it went and escalated verbally. Physically was the problem the
Starting point is 01:59:05 verbal everyone could have done fine with people in new york cops are always yelling shit at people yelling shit back everyone's fine with that uh physically i feel as the man on the subway threatened to face fuck me yeah that's what i mean it stopped there that's it right there so don cronson the agent said the cops were overzealous and were upset because Mason's celebrity status worked against him in this thing. Hornets president, who just got him 10 days ago, had no comment. He's like, Jesus fucking Christ, dear. I barely know him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:36 I had no comment. Now, witnesses around this have a different thing. The cops have one thing. He has one thing. And witnesses say something else. thing. The cops have one thing. He has one thing. And witnesses say something else. Witnesses say police first approached Mason's car to break up an argument between his friends and a group of women who complained that one of these men had grabbed her ass. Of course. That's what it was here.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Ortiz allegedly asked Mason to move his car and show his driver's license while this melee was going on. They drew attention to it. He says as Mason unlocked the car to get his paperwork, he unlocked his car trunk. Ortiz said he, quote, flipped out. And Ortiz said he feared physical injury as Mason stood over him, waving his arms around, threatening to punch me in the face, which is scary because he's a giant person. When backup cops arrived. You're giving instructions to him to calm down, and you're saying those instructions directly into his dick.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Because he's an enormous man. It's frightening. And it was chiseled sternum. As he's telling you, he's going to punch you in the eye. And you better believe it, because he did it to a woman. Yeah, he'll do it. God damn it. All three cops were treated at St. Vincent's Medical Center, because other cops arrived as backup. That's
Starting point is 02:00:43 when he struggled. Ortiz had a bruise on his hand and wrist. Another guy had some shoulder pain from getting tossed around. Another guy had a back injury, which he was probably fat anyway, I would say. It's probably a previous one. Or he's 39 and moved a box. Yeah, that's the other thing. That could happen. So a source here says that the felony assault counts against Mason may be downgraded by the grand jury based on a review of the injuries to the cops, which sounds super fucking minor.
Starting point is 02:01:10 And also his friend from some guy from Brooklyn was given a summons for disorderly conduct and released. Mason would later plead guilty to disorderly conduct here, pay a $250 fine and move on, which that's not bad for taking swings at cops. That's not bad. By the way, at this point, he has four children, three boys and one daughter, four different women, four different mothers, none of whom he married. So he is a stereotype crime and sports athlete. Son named Junior, hanging out at home, having kids with every woman he could fucking find. You can't imagine here. So the Hornets, we told you, hanging out at home, having kids with every woman he could fucking find. Jesus. You can't imagine here.
Starting point is 02:01:46 So the Hornets, we told you, their lineup this year. Dave Cowens is their head coach. They end up 54-28 that season, which isn't bad at all. Not bad at all here. But they're swept by the Knicks in the first round of the playoffs. So he goes there and his old team sweeps him. So that had to hurt. That had to hurt.
Starting point is 02:02:05 73 games. He starts all 73. 43.1 minutes a game. God damn. Leads league again in that. 16.2 points. 11.4 rebounds. 5.7 assists. God, he's so good. That is good, man. That's filling in all the gaps.
Starting point is 02:02:22 He's a guy who fills in everything on the stat sheet. He's also a who fills in everything on the stat sheet. He's also a great defender. Great defender because he's all heart. He had also this year career highs in minutes played, 43.1. 16.2 is his best points outing. 11.4 is his best rebound. 5.7 is his best assist season. And he had four triple doubles this year.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Wow. These were the first in his career. This is joining. This is crazy. It is, at this point, him, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, and Bill Walton as the only players in the last 40 years to average 15 points, 11 rebounds, and five assists in a game in a season.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Those are all very much Hall of Famers. And Anthony Mason. And Anthony Mason. You throw him on there. So that's how good of a year he had and did everything they needed him to do. This is the kind of guy that I feel like the dick kicker in Golden State tries to be. That fucking peckerhead. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I fucking hate that guy. Absolutely. That's what I mean. And I said that 50 episodes ago. You're right. Put Draymond Green in with Mason and Bart and Oakley. He doesn't score 10 points. No, they'd have pushed him around because he wouldn't have been, he wasn't this guy.
Starting point is 02:03:32 He wants to be this. Exactly. He also made $2.777 million out of here. So not too shabby. 97-98 Hornets season. They're 51-31. Again, not terrible. They beat the Hawks in the first round of the playoffs that year, 3-1.
Starting point is 02:03:48 And then they lose in five to the Bulls because the Bulls were on their way to titles. And you weren't beating them at that point. So Anthony has some problems, though. This is one of his major problems. February 7, 1998. He's questioned by New York City police in connection with a complaint by two underage girls. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Who said Mason and another man had sex with them. Oh, Jesus. This is not great. The complaint had been made. Mason hadn't been arrested yet at the very moment that it happened. They were waiting to see what happened after they questioned him. He reportedly met the girls at a basketball charity event and took them in a limo to a party in Queens. Oh, what a nice home.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Yeah. His attorney, Frank Rothman, who we'll hear so much from from now on, he says the charges are false and that Mason is angry that he's accused. And he says, but, quote, hopefully this will work out the way it should and he'll be out later tonight. This is when he got taken in for questioning. He reported to a police precinct about 6 p.m., and he was still in there at like 11 o'clock at night. They were still talking to him. The accusers are 14 and 15 years old. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:04:58 They are not 16 and 17. Oh, Jesus. This is a Hollywood Henderson wheelchair face fucking scenario here. This is horrific. Terrible. Mason's agent called the charge an improper allegation. Everything about this is improper, so sure. It's improper to fuck a 14-year-old, too.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Yeah, he said he was disappointed. Mason was disappointed that his trip home to New York Sunday to watch the NBA All-Star game was ruined by this accusation. Well, you might have ruined a 14- and 15-year-old girl's evening also. And their families. There's a dad somewhere going, how did I get this out of control? Two girls, these two girls, they were introduced to Mason while he was coaching a team at a fundraiser at York College in Queens. After the game, they got into a limousine with Mason and Duggins, who's his friend,
Starting point is 02:05:48 and they go to Duggins' basement party in his parents' home in Queens, in the world in Queens. Mason, this is what I'm talking about. That's his hometown. That's his buddy from when he's a fucking kid, and he's hanging out at his parents' house basement party. Gross. You're in the fucking NBA.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Stop it. Stop doing this. This is what I mean. Hang out with better people. A, A, uh... Say, I'll get everyone a hotel room. Right. A, spring for the hotel.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I made $3 million this year. But B, fuck somebody that's old enough. That's the other thing. Well, he shouldn't be hanging around any of this shit. He shouldn't be doing it. The charity game's fine. Then he should have went to the airport and went back to fucking Charlotte or whatever he's doing.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Not getting a limo with underage girls to go to a house party in fucking Queens. At somebody's parent's house. Jesus Christ, man. Fuck, man. I mean, you've got to make the little girls feel comfortable. You know. Fuck. One of the police people said, quote, there was a ride by car from York College to Mr. Duggan's residence,
Starting point is 02:06:44 and that's where the sexual abuse charges stemmed from. Apparently at the apartment, it is claimed that Mason and Duggan's had sex with the girls. They said there was no indication that the girls were held against their will, but the statutory rape charge was having sex with anyone under the age of 16 in the state of New York is not OK. They say that during the limo ride, Mason allegedly fondled and kissed the 15-year-old while Duggins did the same with the 14-year-old. How do you fucking divvy that up? I'll take the ninth grader. I'll take the freshman.
Starting point is 02:07:14 You grab the sophomore. She's a little fucking too... I can't get over that ever. What the fuck, man? Every time you point out... Because that's what it is. It's that ridiculous. It's fucked up.
Starting point is 02:07:23 You can say, oh, 15-year-old girl's got big tits and all that. Sophomore. Right. Sophomore. She's still wearing L.A. gear. Stop it. She has science third period. Do you understand that? And she's only on her third period. Do you get it? She's still carrying a backpack.
Starting point is 02:07:39 What are you doing? She's got a trapper keeper with horses on it, you fucking moron. She's got Lisa Frank in her Jansport. Leave her alone. Christ, man. Fuck. So apparently the girls returned to Duggan's relative's parents' house in Queens. Once they got out of there, they returned to their house, their home in Queens, and notified police about 1 a.m.
Starting point is 02:07:58 They were taken to the hospital where they were given a physical examination, treated and released. The assistant district attorney told the court that having sex with teenage girls, Mason was informed that they were 14 or 15 before this happened because he knew it from the start when they were introduced to him. They were 14 and 15. He said the evidence, including bed sheets and clothing, were seized from the apartment of Dugan's parents' home in Laurelton. How proud of you.
Starting point is 02:08:25 That's my boy. Oh, he's proud of you are. That's my boy. Oh, he's got an MBA friend. That's so great. I'm so happy his friend made it. Oh, they come over here and have sex with fucking teenagers. That's terrific. Wow, I was so proud. So February 8th, the next morning.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Why are my bedsheets in my basement being seized by the police? That's not right. What the hell is going on? None of my linens have ever been seized. I think that's a good sign. I think I'm living my life right? None of my linens have ever been seized. I think that's a good sign. I think I'm living my life right when none of my linens have been seized ever. February 8th, the very next day, he is charged. He's charged with statutory rape.
Starting point is 02:08:54 Oh, Jesus. Yeah, it's two underage sisters. We find out then they had consensual sex with them. Yeah, he was five hours of questioning, and he's charged with two counts of third-degree rape, which is statutory. He has had problems before, obviously. He gets let out of the station house in handcuffs to go to central booking. His lawyer, Frank Rothman, said, quote, my client is absolutely innocent. He absolutely denies having any sexual relations with either of those women.
Starting point is 02:09:23 They're not women. They're girls, sir. Those are children. I like how you tried to up their age. Nope. And is willing to give up blood to prove it. The allegations come at a time when thousands of National Basketball Association fans and dozens of hoop stars are in New York for today's All-Star game. He says he goes on. I don't know what that had to do with anything.
Starting point is 02:09:41 He says, wow. They say that Mason had sex with the 15 year old in the limo on the way to the house and at the house, Mason and the younger girl had sex. So they're saying in the end that Mason had sex with the older one, got to the house, then they traded. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:09:57 Mason had sex with the younger one and the other one had sex with the one that Mason just had sex with. What the fuck? I don't care how okay these girls are with this. That doesn't fucking matter. They're not old enough to be okay with it. You got to be an adult. They're not old enough to be okay with it. It doesn't matter what they're okay with.
Starting point is 02:10:11 They're 14. Go, your bedtime. You have a bedtime. Yeah. Do you understand that? How ridiculous? You're not allowed to watch certain movies. Right.
Starting point is 02:10:19 You can't fucking. You can't buy a ticket to see things. No. Fuck, man. Oh, my Christ. And then some friends of Mason drove her home, drove the girls home, which is even worse. Yeah. So this is fucking ridiculous here.
Starting point is 02:10:30 The staff at the hospital called police when they found out what happened here. Now, Cronson, again, the agent said, quote, we totally and unequivocally deny that Anthony Mason has done anything illegal or immoral. I can't be more broad-based than that. There was no wrongdoing. Frank Rothman, back to him, says, I'm saying these girls are lying. This is all about money, money, money, the chance to hit the lotto. He also said Anthony did everything in his power to prove his innocence, including voluntarily offering up his blood.
Starting point is 02:10:57 There will be scientific evidence that will vindicate Anthony. He's a target for people like this. We will fight it to the bitter end. He has told me there's nothing to hide. He said, where should I be and when? Wow. So he is denying it. Betting on him.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Betting on himself. Don Cronson says, quote, we're trying to ascertain what really happened. Ken Fiedler stepping in, silver-haired, middle-aged white man. This is the time that you step up to the plate, silver-haired, middle-aged white man. You look a reporter right in the eyes and you say, I have no doubt knowing the circumstances that he is innocent. Someone like Anthony is always vulnerable under these circumstances. You make excuses for and cover up what he did.
Starting point is 02:11:34 More Rothman, by the way. This is great. This Rothman guy cracks me the fuck up here. They said asked, they was asked at a news conference after hearing whether Mason knew the girl's ages. They said, you know, did Mason know the girl's ages? Rothman responded, quote, he's not claiming. I don't know. I didn't know how old they are.
Starting point is 02:11:52 Please forgive me. He's saying I didn't have sex with them. We've said it a thousand times. So he's saying that. It doesn't matter how old they are. He didn't fog them. We've said it a thousand times yesterday and today. No sex.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Which is fucking hilarious. This grown man standing in front of a room full of professionals shouting today no sex which is fucking hilarious this grown man standing in front of a room full of professionals shouting no sex you're not having sex with me uh yeah he said rothman's agent rothman acknowledged that mason may have been unwise to get into the limo at all with these with these girls he said quote he might be asking for trouble it might be poor judgment but it's not criminal uh rothman said the chauffeur who drove the limousine will uh will quote blow the teenage girl's accounts out of the water uh David Stern the commissioner of the NBA silver-haired middle-aged white man number one when asked for a comment he said quote it's somewhat premature to comment yeah uh wow it's
Starting point is 02:12:41 premature to fuck them too they yeah Yeah, they asked NBA players. They asked Mitch Richmond, the Sacramento Kings, at the All-Star game. They asked him anything. Do you know anything about it? And he said, quote, it's just a bad situation right now. I'd really rather not comment on it. I don't know who fucked who. Don't ask me shit. February 10th, 1998, an embarrassed Anthony Mason apologizes to his friends and teammate
Starting point is 02:13:03 and denies charges that he had sex with 14- to 15-year-old sisters. He said, quote, did I do this? No, definitely not. I'm innocent. That's what he says to his team after being charged. He's released on $20,000 bail, faces up to four years in prison if convicted. He says, quote, I'd like to say I'm sorry to my family and for the embarrassment of the situation.
Starting point is 02:13:24 Once again, it's a silly situation. I'd like to say and for the embarrassment of the situation. Once again, it's a silly situation. I'd like to say sorry for the embarrassment to the team. That year, though, he plays in 81 games. Wow. Starts 80 of them. Get out of here. He didn't miss shit. They were off for a few days for the All-Star game.
Starting point is 02:13:36 38.9 points a game, 12.8 minutes or 12.8 points. 38.9 minutes a game, 12.8 points,2 rebounds 4.2 assists that's a hell of a season great makes 3 million 471 500 so not bad there uh jesus christ man cases looming paces looming june 25th 98 right after the season felony charges of statutory rape and sex abuse are dropped in exchange for a guilty plea of endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor. So basically, case is falling apart. I don't know if the girls don't want to testify or whatever.
Starting point is 02:14:13 He pleads it out, though. Yeah. I'm sorry. If you accuse me of fucking a 14-year-old. Let's go to trial. We're going to trial. You bet. It's like the other one.
Starting point is 02:14:22 As they're dragging me out of court and cuffs on the way to prison, I'm screaming, I didn't fuck kids. I didn't fuck any kids. Not a single one. None. That's all. Anytime anyone talks to me, I'm just going to be there. You come to visit me. I'm going to pop into the glass going, I didn't fuck any kids.
Starting point is 02:14:39 I didn't fuck any fucking kids. I swear to God. You never plead guilty to that. You never tug into every cup you've got never so you have plenty of dna never test it all you'll never find my dna on a kid never his lawyer's like well it's a misdemeanor so it's better that he was facing four years in prison he wanted to get it off of his plate you know this could have dragged on forever could have messed up his season all that says he maintains innocence from the start. DNA, they said he worked on him.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Anyway, DNA didn't back up that he was there. But his other, his boy there is dead to rights on DNA. He is not, the charges are not dropped against him. Charges are still pending against him. But, yeah, he would have faced a mandatory prison sentence here. So, basically. And sully his name forever. But, I mean, it kind of still is mason's attorney
Starting point is 02:15:26 you pleaded guilty you're fucking a kid sorry you fucked a kid at that point you're saying put it down in the books i fucked a kid stenographer write it down everyone's here take pictures i fucked a kid i'm the guy who fucked a kid this big purple monster was inside a child yep uh rothman the attorney says quote this plea is consistent with with Anthony exercising bad judgment, which we said Anthony was guilty of from day one. This plea is inconsistent with allegations of rape and allegations of sexual abuse. Actually, no, I don't believe that at all. It's all the same thing. July 10th, 98, the girl Sue Mason.
Starting point is 02:15:59 Fuck yeah. Civil suit here filed in Queens. That's the other problem. When you plead guilty. You're opening yourself up. You leave it. Seeks more than five here filed in Queens. That's the other problem. When you plead guilty, you leave it. Seeks more than $5 million in damages. The victim's lawyer says, quote, this suit seeks redress in civil courts. I know we have a strong case.
Starting point is 02:16:15 There was a lot of forensic evidence. The girls passed a polygraph test that fully corroborates their story. Of course, Don Cronson, the agent, says the charges have no merit. Cronson said, quote, the charge they pleaded to was greatly reduced misdemeanor charge. They basically pleaded guilty to bad judgment. You can keep saying that, but the stem of it was you fucked 14 and 15-year-old girls. They said the more serious charges were dropped because of the DNA thing. Mason could have received up to eight years in prison on the other charges.
Starting point is 02:16:42 thing. Mason could have received up to eight years in prison on the other charges. Here, he'll be ordered to serve 200 hours of community service with the homeless at the Progressive Baptist Church in Charlotte. Cronson also says about the lawsuit, it's another attempt to squeeze money out of my client. It's baseless and it will be shown
Starting point is 02:16:58 so as the suit moves along. Wow. November 20th, 1998, he appears in the Woody Allen film Celebrity. Of course. What the... That's what you think. I mean, if you're...
Starting point is 02:17:09 You think Woody Allen, you think Anthony Mason. Right. But then again, New Yorker, likes to fuck kids. Right. It fits. It does. That's what it is. It's the kid fucker part.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Woody Allen was like... That's my guy. Oh, who is this Anthony Mason fellow I'm hearing so much about? Tell me more about Anthony Mason. Tell me more about this Anthony Mason fellow I'm hearing about. So? Tell me more about Anthony Mason. Tell me more about this Anthony Mason fellow I'm hearing about. I feel like you've got a lot in common. He plays himself. This movie has Kenneth Branagh, Leonardo DiCaprio, Renona White, Charlize Theron.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Wow. Fucking Joe Mantegna, Bebe Neuwirth. What? It's a fucking cast. It's called Celebrity. It's about celebrities. Yeah. He plays himself.
Starting point is 02:17:43 98, 99 season. He does not play due to injuries. It's originally diagnosed as a hyperextended right elbow. It didn't respond to initial treatment, so they took an MRI, and he has a ruptured bicep tendon. Oh, shit. So he's pretty fucked there. He's going to end up having surgery, four to six months of rehab. Yeah, so not good, basically, here.
Starting point is 02:18:05 He misses the entire 98-99 season, which isn't too bad because that was the strike-shortened season anyway. So he only missed 50 games there anyway. But he does make $4,165,000. For sitting on his ass. For not doing a fucking thing. Wow. Not a fucking thing. 99-2000, he's still with the Hornets.
Starting point is 02:18:23 February 27, 2000, he's charged with assault after he and a group of friends were involved in a barroom brawl that left three people injured. Of course. New York, of course. Why is he there? Of course he is. You don't play for the Knicks anymore. You don't. Well, you're still there.
Starting point is 02:18:36 He had a criminal record, obviously, before. He was arrested with four friends at 5 a.m. in Harlem. The police were called to a Manhattan Avenue bar, again, a bar at 5 a.m. in Harlem. The police were called to a Manhattan Avenue bar again, a bar at 5 a.m. He was charged with third degree assault after he was questioned by officers. He was arraigned and freed on a thousand dollars bond.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Fucking idiot, basically. I know you and I know me and I know that if I have that kind of money, you can't get me out of my house. Shit, no. Especially not to a club or a bar. Opening yourself up to a lawsuit, whether it's on the drive there. I'm just not going anywhere where people annoy me because I don't have to be there.
Starting point is 02:19:11 You got to stop somewhere and get cigarettes and you bump into somebody. Now you're getting sued. Fuck that noise. Stay at home. $3 million, you'll never see me again. That's it. I'm out. Luckily, we're not in any jeopardy of making that at the moment. So this fight apparently was at the Perks Bar.
Starting point is 02:19:31 Mason and four other men fought three officers also. He'll fight the cops apparently. There are three men allegedly assaulted. There's three guys who got assaulted by Mason's group. They were hospitalized. Mason wasn't injured in the fight, obviously, because he's huge. He says, quote, I don't want to become an antisocial hermit. I didn't do anything wrong except be there.
Starting point is 02:19:50 I didn't do anything wrong except be there. It wasn't a trouble spot. It's a restaurant I've been going to for years. It's 5 in the morning. It's not a restaurant anymore. Restaurants aren't open until 5 in the morning. That's why. Who makes that kind of money to be a fucking uh a person to be seen
Starting point is 02:20:05 no no i don't want it uh the team that year finishes 49 and 33 without him or this is the next year i'm sorry they're with him uh they finished 49 and 33 he plays an 82 game starts 81 of them 38.2 minutes a game 11.6 points 8.5 rebounds 4 4.5 assists, $4,860,100 he makes that year. So he's doing great. July of 2000, New Orleans. We're on Bourbon Street. Never good news there either. He is arrested for allegedly inciting a riot and assaulting police officers in the French Quarter.
Starting point is 02:20:39 There's not even a basketball team there yet. Why are you even there? Why are you there? He's partying. It's off-season. These basketball players all get arrested in July because camp starts after that. Even a basketball team there. Come on. Why are you even there? Why are you there? He's partying. It's off-season. Don't lie. These basketball players all get arrested in July because camp starts after that, and they're playing until June. Just stay in Charlotte, you asshole.
Starting point is 02:20:54 Yep. He's arrested at 9.15 p.m. He barely even got there after he was pepper-sprayed by officers. A pair of officers noticed two groups of men arguing over women on Bourbon Street. That's very mature. Officers tried to separate the groups, and Mason hit one of the officers and began rallying the crowd to do the same. Wow. Which you can't do.
Starting point is 02:21:14 Officers... No. The officers who got hit sprayed Anthony with pepper spray, but quote, to little effect, because he's giant. It takes a lot. Other officers arrived and some people in the crowd threw bottles and shouted racial slurs at the police of every kind. Mason is arrested. After he fled, he flees and a crowd follows him.
Starting point is 02:21:38 After that, the police go to a police station to regroup and they go out and find Anthony Mason and took him to the hospital to have his face treated because he had some marks from other shit. No other police were seriously hurt. He's booked for inciting a riot, battery on police officers, and resisting arrest. Holy fucking shit. Mason. That's so awesome. He's got an excuse for it, though.
Starting point is 02:22:00 He says it was like a mini Mardi Gras there, and I think the police thought they heard something. I'm not trying to get into a spitting contest with the new orleans police i'm sure they were just trying to do their jobs but i think they just got the wrong person maybe because i'm the biggest one uh wow he said he said quote if i had thrown any punches i think i would have gotten hit back by the because the police had their batons out there were thousands and thousands of women there so for that to come up is preposterous. And if two groups were fighting, it wasn't my group. And anyone who knows me knows I would never yell for help. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Which that, yeah, I believe that part of that statement there. Anybody who knows me. Knows I ain't calling for help. Shit, I'll fight all these cops off. Unless it's fucking children. Then I call for help. Then I call for help. Hey, bud, come on in here.
Starting point is 02:22:44 There's a 15-year-old that I need you to get. Jesus. August 1st, 2000, he's traded by the Hornets. They've had enough of this bullshit from him. Yeah, it's not on-the-court shit. That's shit. It's this constant bullshit. This is a couple weeks later.
Starting point is 02:22:56 They don't have Pat Riley to keep his ass in check. That's their name. Yeah, it's like six days later. They're like, done. Get the fuck out of here. They trade him with Ricky Davis and Dale Ellis and Eddie Jones, who was a good player for a while, to Miami for P.J. Brown, Rodney Buford, Tim James, Jamal Mashburn, and Otis Thorpe. Wow. So everybody goes to Charlotte, and I remember Eddie Jones going to Miami was a big deal because he was pretty good down there for them after that.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Now, he vows at this point, no more trouble. I'm good now. Sure. This is, can we, we missed it earlier. Yeah. But he has passed grace so fucking long ago. Jesus. Grace was the New York Magazine piece.
Starting point is 02:23:40 Yeah. That was grace. For sure. Right there. And then it's over since then. He vows no more trouble. Don Cronson, his agent, said there are things he's done which people would surely
Starting point is 02:23:50 criticize him for, and he has criticized himself. He intends to leave his troubles behind. He is good now. In Miami. In Miami. He's going to be fine. He said after the riot in New Orleans, he said, my apologies go out to the community, to the Charlotte Hornets.
Starting point is 02:24:06 Most importantly, my family for this black guy that this puts out. There won't be another situation. There definitely will not be. I might have to become a hermit as much as I wouldn't like to. I have to put the best interest of my family first. There won't be another time. Yes. Now you're getting it.
Starting point is 02:24:24 Why wouldn't you want to be a hermit it's fucking great i don't understand it i don't get it and it makes no fucking sense to me he said quote if i'm the only bad apple then you've got to do what you've got to do but i'm committed to being here this is before he got shipped out of charlotte i'd love to finish my career here and due to all these incidents that may not happen uh he says if i do all the hitting and never get hit back, I must be the most elusive fighter out there. Maybe I should consider a new profession.
Starting point is 02:24:51 Cronson has told him to hire a bodyguard for security and stop going out so much. When you do go out, bring a guy with you that he can fuck somebody up and then he'll get charged with shit and you don't have to worry about it. That's the whole point. Cronson says... He's so bad at being social. He really is. He has no idea how to be social.
Starting point is 02:25:08 Apparently he likes to go out to clubs and restaurants. He has front row tickets to the WNBA games. He sits and signs autographs for kids. He says he's got to do it. Cronson said, quote, he's seriously mulling it over. He likes to be out there to live his life, but people say things and he'll respond verbally
Starting point is 02:25:23 and all of a sudden it's a he said, she said situation, and he's always the target because he's the deep pocket. It's starting to cause him pause for thought. Starting to cause him pause. How about after the first $54 million lawsuit, I might go, maybe I should stay home at night. Remember when you punched a girl? That was before you fucked a kid. Before you fucked, you punched a girl, you fucked a kid. Before you fucked a girl. We've had a lot of problems here.
Starting point is 02:25:46 You don't know how to be social. Clearly not. The general manager of the Hornets said, I'll have to find out what happened. I'll either let it go or he'll feel my rage, one of the two. And he ended up trading him. So that's what he did here. Yeah. He said, quote, you can't feel sorry for the guy anymore.
Starting point is 02:26:03 If trouble keeps following him, maybe trouble isn't following him. Maybe he's looking for it. There you go. Thank you. There you go. 2000, in celebration of the USBL's 15th anniversary, that's that shit league he played for the surf there, the USBL fans, all eight of them, all eight fans, put together the All 15 team, meaning the best all-time USBL players
Starting point is 02:26:25 from 1985 to 2000, and Mason was one of the 15. So he's one of the top 15 players ever there. 2000, 2001, he's with the Heat. This is Bruce Bowen. Said Sabalis went there after his AC Green, after his prime Tim Hardaway. Fucking Eddie Jones, Dan Marley.
Starting point is 02:26:44 This is where Marley went at the end. This was Alonzo Mourning was down there. That's a good starting five, though. It's not bad. They're just all very old. That's a brittle starting five. You're going to have a lot of injuries. A lot of Activia and Metamucil in that diet.
Starting point is 02:26:56 Yeah, I would say. January 7, 2001, charges are dismissed for inciting a riot in Burma. He pleaded not guilty to all charges. The city attorney said that her office was uncertain it would convict because he's got attorneys and all that. He faced the possibility of six months in jail and a $500 fine. They just said, fuck it. Whatever. He was willing to go to trial with that.
Starting point is 02:27:19 Let him go. But not on kid fucking. Because that's not for fucking eight years in prison. Right. That's why. Whatever. Team goes 50 and 32 under Pat Riley. I find it absolutely fascinating that this whole time, his whole life, he bet on him
Starting point is 02:27:34 every day, all day. All day, baby. Except for one day. And then fucked it up. One day. One day he's like, you know what? I'm going to bet on the other side. I'm going to hedge my shit just a little bit.
Starting point is 02:27:44 I'll take a plea. Because I've seen roulette. Sometimes you've got to bet on the other side. I'm going to hedge my shit just a little bit. I'll take a plea. Because I've seen roulette. Sometimes you've got to bet on it. Sometimes you get the green. Sometimes green comes up. It happens. Double zeros are there is all I'm saying. They lose.
Starting point is 02:27:53 They're swept in the first round of the playoffs by who? Charlotte. Yeah. So when he leaves the team, the team comes and sweeps his new team the next year twice now. He plays. He starts all 80 games he plays in. 40.7 minutes a game. fucking hey man jesus 16.1 points a game 9.6 rebounds 3.1 assists not bad at all he makes the all-star team that year did he makes the all-star team uh yeah he was brought
Starting point is 02:28:19 over by pat riley to be a role player here because alonzo morning had the kidney problem that year mason played center a lot of the year, which is crazy. At 6'7", he was playing fucking center. He would be second in scoring and average 9.6 rebounds. Now, Mourning was selected to be an all-star that year and couldn't play because the kidney, Grant Hill, was also selected to be a star and he couldn't play due to the fucking constant injuries that he had in his entire career. So he was chosen to represent the Heat there. Not bad.
Starting point is 02:28:51 In the playoffs, though, he only took 13 shots and averaged 5.3 points and 3 rebounds in those games. So he's just totally gone. But it doesn't matter because he made $5,550,000 that year. Holy shit. Goddamn, that's a lot of money. He's made so much money. He really has. July 13th, 2001.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Anthony Mason is under investigation on rape and sodomy charges in New Jersey. A 29-year-old woman told Brooklyn police that Mason and two other men sexually assaulted her in the Holiday Inn in Tintin Falls, New Jersey. Are you fucking kidding me? Or in New York? I'm sorry. Holy shit. You made $5 million last year and you've got a Holiday Inn? The woman told police she was picked up in a Lincoln Navigator to meet Mason in Atlantic City,
Starting point is 02:29:36 but instead was brought to the hotel where she alleged Mason and two others forcibly assaulted her. Afterwards, she was driven to Brooklyn, where she notified authorities. They said the investigation's in a preliminary phase. Yeah, they said that Rothman said that he does know this woman and that they've had a, quote, short-term relationship for a month or less. This is a woman he's been going out with and seeing. A month or less. A month or less.
Starting point is 02:30:04 Could be three days. Who knows. He says, I've spoken to Anthony and he 100% denies any sexual impropriety with this woman at any time. The manager at the Holiday Inn declined comment saying, quote, I don't even know who Mr. Mason is. How blind are you? I don't follow basketball
Starting point is 02:30:20 is what they were saying. Holy fucking shit. This is so vile now. It's turned into such a goddamn mess. It really has. I mean, stay home. Yeah. Stay home. Get the fuck out of New York and New Jersey.
Starting point is 02:30:33 Just sit in your fucking apartment with your samurai bullshit. Right. Whatever. Actually, the samurai shit's getting played. It's like 2000. Keep reprogramming your welcome sign. Get it redecorated. Call somebody.
Starting point is 02:30:44 There'll be a knock at the door and you'll answer and it'll be Dexter Manley, interior decorator from New York City. And he'll say. How is it you've come to arrive here? What's wrong with you? Seriously. First of all, first, first, first, let's talk about all the samurai shit you've got around. Asian shit's really weird. I get it in the 90s. It was cool.
Starting point is 02:31:08 You could be like a Steven Seagal type and swing your little swords around. That's fine. It looks like that's how you cut your hair up, I guess. But I don't know what you're doing. But still, still, the rest of what you're doing, sir, I do not approve. I'm looking, you have sex with underage girls. You're constantly drinking
Starting point is 02:31:24 and punching police. Police. Seriously. You are white trash. I'm sorry. You're white trash. I get that you're very black. I understand that.
Starting point is 02:31:34 Insanely black. But you are the whitest trash I've ever seen. Everything you do, if I list it all, it sounds like white trash, white trash, white trash. You're white trash. Where's the trailer, Anthony? Please don't punch me. Ah, poof. And a poof of feather boa.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Glitter. Glitter. Cock glitter. It's gone. And those little things, the little cocks they put in like bachelorette parties, like they put in a car and it comes out and cocks fly out everywhere. Holy shit. So Anthony Mason's very confused now.
Starting point is 02:32:06 He's so confused that on October 21st, 25th 2001, he signs with the Milwaukee Bucks. That's how confused he is. He's like, I don't even know what to do. I'm signing with the Bucks over here. Where's Fat Leverett? Fuck. Where's Fat Leverett? This is the Ray Allen,
Starting point is 02:32:21 Ray for Alston, who will also have his own episode. Really? Greg Anthony is there still. Jason Caffey, who will also have his own episode. Greg Anthony is there. Still Jason Caffey, Sam Cassell. This team. This is a bad team. This is bad. They ran small.
Starting point is 02:32:31 Glenn Robinson. Yeah, this is a bad. They have a 6'11 and a couple of 6'10ers, and that's it, man. There's no real center. Their center is Irvin Johnson and not Magic. No. This is the bad one. This is bad stuff.
Starting point is 02:32:44 He looked like he had fetal alcohol syndrome. Yeah, it was not great. He looked bad. He did. He looked terrible. Sam Cassell looked terrible. He's the Otis Nixon of basketball. He's the opposite.
Starting point is 02:32:59 Otis Nixon looks like you took one of those fireplace things and sucked the air out of him. And then Sam Cassell looks like you took Otis Nixon's air, shoved the thing up his ass, and blew it into Sam Cassell's head. Sam Cassell, he looks like a frog, which he does. He looks like a frog in full, like, you know. Full croak. Yeah. He's about to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:17 His eyes are ready to pop out. It's like total recall right before Arnold's eyeballs popped out of his fucking head. That's what he looks like all the time. With like the worst teeth. His teeth and eyeballs are doing the same thing. And he is a clutch ass three point shooter. He was really clutch. That's the guy. You need a championship, you throw Sam Cassell on your team.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Not from Milwaukee though. It doesn't work out like that. It's not going to bring women to the game but it will definitely win you. As a matter of fact. They go 41-41 that year. The Bucs, too, under Coach George Carl, who we know he's been all around the league. Denver, as you might know. They do not make the playoffs that year.
Starting point is 02:33:53 41-41 will not make the playoffs for you. He starts all 82 games, 38.3 minutes a game, 9.6 points, 7.9 rebounds, 4.2 assists. So still consistent. He made $4,538,000 that year. In Minnesota? In Milwaukee. In Milwaukee. What am I doing?
Starting point is 02:34:11 Not bad. That's September. That's fine. But are the Bucs in the West or the East? They're the West, right? They were the Central. They're the East. The East.
Starting point is 02:34:20 I think I'm like, ugh. I couldn't think of where they divided that. Yeah, well, it depends on what's convenient for them. It's stupid. I think they gave the West Minnesota, and then they were like, we have to even this up. There has to be exact numbers. Or fucked it all up. Milwaukee's far enough east.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Fine. 2002, 2003, the team is 42-40 under George Carl. Again, they go to the playoffs this time, and they lose in six games to the Nets in the first round. So that's pretty sad. Is that Kenny Anderson and Coleman? That is past. That's later. Really? It's after that?
Starting point is 02:34:57 That's during that time period. Yeah, Kenny Anderson is still on the team, I believe, because that's when they were decent and they went and got smoked by the Lakers in the finals and all that. That's Jason Kidd-Nets. Kerry Kittles. That's Jason Kidd-Nets. Okay. Because that was Nets teams here after Phoenix dropped him for beating up his wife all the time.
Starting point is 02:35:13 Right. Fucking jerk off. Mason plays in 68 games. All the time. All he did was all the time. You're right. That's a terrible fucking thing to put at the end of beating up his wife. All the time.
Starting point is 02:35:23 It's true. That's a terrible fucking thing to put at the end of beating up his wife. All the time. It's true. He plays in 65 games, starts 58 of them, 32.6 minutes a game, 7.2 points, 6.4 rebounds, 3.2 assists. But he makes $4,370,819 a year. Holy hell. Holy shit. October 10, 2003, he is waived by the Bucs.
Starting point is 02:35:42 For that season, though, the next season, he's still going to make $4,348,094. And doesn't have to play. Nope, because they waived him. Guaranteed contract. That is the 2003 season. That's the end of his season here. Take that, NFL players. That's the end of his career.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Oh, it gets better, too. Don't worry. God damn it. That's the end of his career. In the NBA, he has 882 games, started.559, 34.7 minutes a game, 10.9 points, 8.3 rebounds, 3.4 assists. Oh, by the way, the 2004-05 season, when he is his second year out of the league, he will make $4,710,435 that year. What the fuck? They signed him.
Starting point is 02:36:21 Fucking your fault. That's amazing. From 1991 on, because a year in Portland or whatever. 1991 on, he made $45,045,948. Holy hell. Did pretty fucking well for himself here. July 27, 2011. He's quiet for a while. The Wisconsin state government is getting proactive about delinquent taxpayers and posted its top 100 delinquents online.
Starting point is 02:36:47 Two of the three are NBA players, former NBA players. Number one is Latrell Sprewell, who the government claims he owes $3.53 million in back taxes. Number three is our man Anthony Mason. Fantastic. Former Bucks power forward, who the government says owes them $2.07 million in back fucking taxes. That's a lot. That's a lot.
Starting point is 02:37:10 So, I mean, he'll fuck over anybody. Anybody. Even the... He'll beat you up in a bar. He'll kick you in the chest if you got a fucking badge on. He'll put your dick in you if you're a freshman in high school.
Starting point is 02:37:21 Yeah, I dare you to be a woman. You'll get punched, too. He'll fucking not... Yeah, he'll punch a woman. He'll not pay your taxes if you're in freshman in high school. Yeah, I dare you to be a woman. You'll get punched, too. He'll fucking not. Yeah, he'll punch a woman. He'll not pay your taxes. If you're in a goddamn state, you guys can eat dicks. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do.
Starting point is 02:37:32 But not nearly as bad as I feel for Anthony Mason, a real estate agent in Moab, Utah. Oh, this poor guy. And in his profile, it says, I love living in Moab, which I'm like this poor bastard right away. But no one's buying shit from Anthony Mason. Anthony Mason, former swimmer for the University of Louisville. Oh, this poor guy. Anthony Mason, Middlesex High School football player in New Jersey also. Anthony Mason, based out of Las Vegas.
Starting point is 02:37:59 He's a principal for innovation analytics, the data analysis and new technologies arm of the innovation group, whatever the fuck that is. He's very successful. Very successful. A white guy in a suit. I don't know. Anthony Mason, an MMA fighter. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:38:13 With an 0-1 amateur. I was like, is that him? Is that Anthony Mason? Did he fucking do it? Yeah. Because that seems off on his alley. 0-1 amateur record and a 0-0 pro record. He had one fight, but it was
Starting point is 02:38:25 a no contest. So who knows? And finally, Jesus Christ, Anthony Mason, who used to be the CBS News Senior National Correspondent, who then took over as the anchor of the CBS Evening News. Are you shitting me? Swear to fucking God.
Starting point is 02:38:41 If you look up Anthony Mason, you're going to get, and you're looking for the anchor of the evening news, you're going to get sodomized 14-year-olds or whatever the fuck. Not terrific. A forcibly gang-banged woman in a Holiday Inn, a 14- and 15-year-old sexually assaulted, and a Jersey woman's eyelash on her knuckles. On your knuckles. And a Jersey woman's fucking teal mascara all over your knuckles.
Starting point is 02:39:09 Teal sparkly mascara. Jesus Christ, man. That's great. And a juicy couture sweatsuit. You know it, man. 2013, he appears on an episode of Tanked, which is the fish tank show where they make fish tanks for people. Why is he buying fish tanks? He's not.
Starting point is 02:39:31 I don't think it's him. It might be just he was around because the description is Wade and Brett, who are apparently people who make fish tanks, have the coveted task of creating a temporary tank for NBA star Dwayne Wade as he launches his new shoe line. In North Carolina, Wade and Brett will tackle a sushi and burger-filled aquarium for a cowfish restaurant. I don't know. But apparently Dwayne Wade's place was there, probably Anthony Mason hanging out in the background, I can see, with Dwayne Wade. We're going to put a fish tank over here. Mr. Mason, can you put your dick away, please? Please, good God.
Starting point is 02:40:03 There's children around. I know that's why your dick's out, but please put it away. February 12th, 2015. It's a little odd reports on what is happening, but we believe when he's playing basketball, he's playing a pickup game of basketball, he has a massive heart attack. Massive heart attack, this is.
Starting point is 02:40:24 I mean, real bad. They thought he was going to die that day. He goes into the hospital. They find out he has congestive heart failure and all this. His heart is fucked, basically. His heart's destroyed. The next day, they're saying he's slightly improved after his massive heart attack. His agent, Don Cranston, said he's fighting for his life.
Starting point is 02:40:44 He said, quote, right now it's day to day but that's an improvement from moment to moment he also said that he's been informed that Mason may need a heart transplant if he survives this whole thing at all he may need a heart transplant February 28th 2015 he dies
Starting point is 02:41:00 holy shit dies in New York City dead as a fucking doornail I mean to laugh at that but i don't know he's dead it's pretty sick whenever our guys die it's always like whoa didn't expect that they're so alive for three hours and then they're just fucking dead like that in life light up a room in life most of these guys peter out you don't hear about him for a while and you just hear they died in this it's like he's so alive for three hours and then just dead. It'd be like a guy dropping dead in the middle of a game while he was playing.
Starting point is 02:41:30 That's what happens here. Or on a road trip, flipping their truck on a median. That's what I mean. It's the same thing. That was in the middle. He had two outs in the ninth, and he just died. That was like we were in the middle of covering him. So he's dead.
Starting point is 02:41:45 Holy shit. Once he dies, everyone forgets that he stuck his dick in a 14 year old. Everybody forgets that he was kind of a menace and they only talk about what a hardcore player he was. Talk about 92 to 96. They talk about what an icon he was. That's all you hear about from him. Uh,
Starting point is 02:42:02 we have, uh, they literally have 75,000 quotes. So I figured I'd get a quote from someone who played against him all the time and kind of one of those. So I got a P.J. Brown quote he played on those Heat teams where they fought all the time. He said, quote, we said some ugly words toward each other and threw a lot of elbows. When we played each other, we knew it was going to be hard. Nothing was going to be easy.
Starting point is 02:42:24 They let us play back in those days. They are soft now with a lot of touch fouls back then they let us bang they don't let you do that anymore he was the ultimate warrior he was he's first of all he's not the ultimate warrior no the ultimate warrior is but they did die the same way they did about the same age that exploded hearts are fucking 48 that happens they were both about the same size, too. I like that he just said they let us bang. Yeah, children, too. Children, each other.
Starting point is 02:42:51 Girls' faces, women's faces. It's fine. Cops. Random girlfriends we've had for three days and a fucking holiday end. So he's the ultimate warrior. He was just a great competitor. I love to compete against him. He always gave 100%. He was a big man with a huge heart.
Starting point is 02:43:08 I was shocked when I heard the bad news. I'm still shocked. He's a huge man with a huge heart and a huge arrest record and a huge cock that a 14-year-old had to experience. PJ, how about you don't reference his heart? That's what killed him, bro. That's a bad idea. We've had that happen so many times that we had that with heart attacks. Like, he had a big heart.
Starting point is 02:43:24 And you're like, God damn it. Don't say that. It's like the 20th time this has happened. March 2nd, 2015. Too soon. Yeah, too soon. Now, I'll catch up on his sons a little bit. His son, Anthony Jr., ended up playing college ball for St. John's. Was pretty good.
Starting point is 02:43:40 Was undrafted in the NBA, but ended up playing in the CBA. He played overseas a whole bunch. He played in France. The Miami Heat signed him, and he ended up playing in the developmental league for them a little bit. I think they signed him and waived him, that sort of thing. And then he kind of quit basketball after all that. But he had a little bit of a career.
Starting point is 02:44:00 He played in France after the Heat dropped him. And then his son Antoine ended up playing for the University of Auburn. He played for France after the Heat dropped him. And then his son, Antoine, ended up playing for the University of Auburn. He played for Auburn basketball team. He was playing. He was in college when this happened. He had to miss a game. There's an article about he's going to miss the team's game with Missouri while spending time with his family
Starting point is 02:44:17 after his father passed away. His coach said, quote, I don't think there's any chance that Antoine will be back on Tuesday. I do think that the arrangements for his dad are at the end of this week and they are working on it right now. We would expect something late in the week. I don't know that he will be back for senior day on Saturday. I think we'll just have to wait and see. Whatever they decide, we will support.
Starting point is 02:44:35 That makes sense there. 2015, May 14th, the high school he went to renames the high school gym Mace Court. No way. Oh, it gets worse. It gets more interesting. Okay. A high school where teenage girls come into. 14, 15-year-old girls.
Starting point is 02:44:51 You're not missing the irony on there at all. Okay. It's Mace Court. They're everywhere. Okay. What the fuck? Why would they do that? There's more to this story, by the way.
Starting point is 02:45:00 Okay. And you knew about this, too. There's more to this story. May 16, 2016, Fat Joe is on a radio show and he comes out and says that the Biggie Notorious B.I.G., if you're not a rap guy,
Starting point is 02:45:14 Biggie song, I Got a Story to Tell, is about Anthony Mason. Now, if you've never heard this song, I'll explain it to you. It's about a gentleman who spends a night out with libations and entertainment with his friends. While there, he meets a young woman and decides to get in a vehicle with her. That's her car.
Starting point is 02:45:40 That's a very nice one, actually, that isn't even from illegal activities that he finds out is actually because she is cohabitating with a professional basketball player who happens to play for the New York Knicks. And he happens to be on a road trip playing the Utah Jazz right now. Yes, that's what he says. So she has a legitimate Mercedes here. So she has a legitimate Mercedes here. He sends his other friends away so he can go have sex with this girl and maybe come up with a few stolen items is what he says. Anyway, they have a sexual dalliance. There are orgasms had by all from what he says.
Starting point is 02:46:18 Several. Three total is what he catalogs. That's what he catalogs. That's what he catalogs. There was then marijuana smoke, which led to some joking around about the quality of said marijuana. It is at that point when this young lady's concubine reemerges into the domicile. As he pops up, obviously Biggie, the person who is now in this man's bed, is shocked and appalled that this person is home. He doesn't understand how he could be home from a basketball game. He says, maybe it was rained out, which is a joke, and it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 02:46:57 So at that point, he says, what am I going to do? This is terrible. He then concocts a plot to make it look like he wasn't fucking this woman but instead was robbing her right so then he says he quickly puts on his clothes i can give you the lyrics but whatever he uh he he ties some sort of uh cloaking device around his face and uh resorts to pulling a firearm uh some baggage that he has with him. While he does that, then the man emerges up the stairs after the young lady asked him to retrieve a drink for her. As he enters the room with the drink, this other gentleman points the firearm in his face,
Starting point is 02:47:43 causing him to drop the drink and begin to give him money that he has in a safe in the floorboards, to which this man puts in his backpack and leaves and takes the Mercedes and calls his friends and says, please procure some marijuana. I'd like to tell you about what just happened to me, I believe is the whole song.
Starting point is 02:48:01 Basically, he says, yelling and believe the shit. Yeah. This story is amazing. Got some weed, I got a story the whole song. Basically, he says, yelling and believe this shit. Yeah. This story is amazing. Got some weed I got a story to tell. So that's the thing. Fat Joe. Anthony Mason.
Starting point is 02:48:11 Fat Joe, the rapper, comes out and says that this was Anthony Mason that this happened to and this was a real story. He said, quote, it was about Anthony Mason. Rest in peace. He then says afterwards. Wow. He says, that, it was about Anthony Mason. Rest in peace. He then says afterwards. Wow. He says that was the rumor. That was the very strong possibility rumor that it was about Anthony Mason. They say the timeline fits.
Starting point is 02:48:33 He was playing for, you know, he played for the Knicks at that point in time. They said they threw. It was thrown off because Biggie also in it said, I don't know, it was one of them 6-5 N words. So people took that to mean I always took that in the song as just somebody, one of them tall motherfuckers, I don't know, not someone who is exactly 6'5, whereas other people were like, okay, John Starks and Hubert Davis are both 6'5. Maybe it's one of them. So Starks denied it in 2014, telling that he heard about the basics of the story and he knows that they're
Starting point is 02:49:06 true, but, quote, I know who it was about, but I'm not going to say I can't tell you, but I just want to get it clear that it wasn't me. So if you ever want to know who that song's about, talk to John Starks because he knows for sure. He knows exactly who it is. He knows for sure. Fat Joe thinks he knows. Who knows?
Starting point is 02:49:20 There are probably 11 other dudes that know for sure as well. That's what I mean. May 20th, 2016, Charles oakley's pissed at fat joe not the guy who i get pissed off whoops the daisy he said that shirt come a cum stains on it he said quote you don't talk about a guy after he's deceased definitely disrespectful uh he said that uh yeah he said oakley was very tight with Mason, and Mason never brought up the alleged incident to him, not even once. He said he's not convinced that Fat Joe is telling the truth.
Starting point is 02:49:52 And then he talks about his plans to do a show called Oakley in the Kitchen because he's a good cook. So I'm like, okay. I'm sure you are going to hate this show. I'm friends with him on Facebook. He's going to unfriend me after this show. I guarantee it. I love Charles Oakley, too.
Starting point is 02:50:09 May 23, 2016, Fat Joe comes out and says he worships Anthony Mason and meant no disrespect to him by identifying him. He said he's so sorry to Charles Oakley that he's pissed off. He said he didn't mean to throw any unnecessary shade. He said, quote, I to Charles Oakley that he's pissed off. He said he didn't mean to throw any unnecessary shade. He said, quote, I love Charles Oakley. I worship him. I worship Anthony Mason. Anyone who took it as disrespect, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:50:34 I was just kidding. It ain't him. Just kidding. It's John Starks. He's too small. He won't kick my ass. And he's very much alive. And he's alive. June 12, 2016, a street in South Jamaica, Queens, was named in honor of Anthony Mason. They fucking named a street after him.
Starting point is 02:50:53 How can you do that? His 92-year-old mother, Mary, and his four kids attended the festival there. She said, or Anthony Mason Jr. said, quote, To see the crowd show up, it really shows it was well-deserved and shows the love he had here in our community still. The block that is renamed is a stretch of 147th Street between Rockaway Boulevard and 123rd Avenue near where Mason grew up. And it is now Anthony Mason Way. Wow.
Starting point is 02:51:18 So you can go see that. August 4th, 2017, they talked to Anthony Mason Jr. He has a nonprofit fashion thing going on here. On July 29th, they released Ewing Athletics. Patrick Ewing's thing released a shoe in a joint venture with this Ewing Athletics. It's Ewing's shoe that he had in 1991, the Ewing model shoe 91. I remember my cousin had those and he would fuck. He was so paranoid about fucking them up.
Starting point is 02:51:47 I love these fucking Ewings. I don't want to fuck them up. They were cool ass shoes. This was the first year that they knew each other there and they call the shoes, they have Mason stitched into the back as well as that sort of thing. It's little Mason tributes to it. Is he number 38?
Starting point is 02:52:04 Mason was 14. Was he? Oh, you're right. 14 on the Knicks. 33 was Ewing. Okay. He says, Mason Jr. says,
Starting point is 02:52:11 quote, it's been a steady process. Came out of my passion for creating and a love for my pops wanting to leave him some kind of mark that continues his name
Starting point is 02:52:19 because his life was cut short. Proceeds from the sale of the sneakers and t-shirts will go to Junior's family on 3 Foundation, started in 2015, to impact youth and community by providing inner-city kids with positive role models, energetic or strategic enrichment and exposure. The sneakers at that point could be purchased for $130, and the shirts are $35 apiece. December 13th, 2017,
Starting point is 02:52:46 Anthony Mason is doing Junior is doing Christmas shit. He's doing a bunch of charity shit. Still doing it. He says he's sharing messages of positivity and perseverance while distributing gifts for the holidays. He's basically trying to beat Anthony Mason now. But he seems like a nice guy, his kid. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 02:53:02 I promise a couple of people weren't at the dedication of that streak. You know what I mean? At least two. At least two. Can't get enough Anthony Mason? Oh my god. Shop.EwingAthletics.com You can get the Mason shoe. It's cool as fuck for $89.99.
Starting point is 02:53:19 I might buy those. That's pretty cool. I was thinking about it, honestly. It's the game shoe of 91-92 season Patrick Ewing. It has number 14 replacing the number 33 because it's got a strap that goes across the 33 on it. And this one has a 14 instead of a 33, and it says Mason across the back. Available in sizes 5 through 16, so even you big guys can get that shit. And you little guys. eBay, something I am going to buy, is a Charlotte Hornets Anthony Mason starting lineup figure, 97.
Starting point is 02:53:46 That's cool. Fucking awesome. I love starting lineup figures, and that's perfect for the new studio here. That is $15 plus $6.50 shipping and handling. Not bad. It's 20 years old. What are you going to do? And also on Amazon.com, a 1991-1992 New York Knicks Anthony Mason No. 14 jersey.
Starting point is 02:54:03 They range from $109.99 to $129.95, depending on the size, because you can get like a quadruple X that's more. That is Anthony Mason. That's the crazy story of that. What a nutty story. It's a long, crazy, insane story that I knew you guys would have fun with and that I've been dying to tell for a long time. Pete, you had a story to tell.
Starting point is 02:54:23 Oh, boy, I got a story to tell, baby. And if you like that story, what you can do to show us that is to get on iTunes and give us five stars. Just say you're following instructions, following directions. Or if you want to be a bigger hero and be like one of these producers who are our damn heroes who we love so much, you can do that by going to patreon.com slash crime in sports or make a one-time donation over at paypal using our email address crime and sports at gmail.com oh and if you want to keep getting a hold of the show you can do that at uh crime and sports on twitter at crime and sports on facebook go to shut up and give me murder.com where you can get everything crime and sports and small town murder
Starting point is 02:55:00 there's links to the t-shirts and merchandise, links to donate, links to social media shit, links to everything like that, all of that good stuff there. That said, without further ado, Jimmy, I think it is time for you to hit us with the list of the most fantastic, most wonderful, most beloved people on the face of the earth. Our producers hit us with that list, Jimmy. Executive producers this week are Christiane Castaldi, Ryan Moeller, Kerry Clark, Ara Abrahamian. Abrahamian. Abraham list, Jimmy. Executive producers this week are Christiane Castaldi, Ryan Moeller, Carrie Clark, Ara Abrahamian.
Starting point is 02:55:27 Abrahamian. Abrahamian, yes. And Ewa Taroska was in New York, and her visa ran out, and she had to go back to England. So, Missy Ewa, thank you so much for everything. Wendy Alcidri? Yes. Wendy Alcidri.
Starting point is 02:55:44 Lou Alcindor? Yes. That's what I keep goingor. Lou Alcindor. Yes. That's what I keep going to, as a matter of fact. Julia Lyons. Jesse Hartman. Kayla Parker. Say Charleston Tours.
Starting point is 02:55:55 I don't know what that is. Allison Perry. Ruddy Jimmy's Dumb. I don't know what that means. I think that's saying that you're dumb. I don't know what the ruddy part is, though. That I don't know. I hope that's their first name and they chose to insult me. what the ruddy part is, though. That I don't know. I hope that's their first name and they chose to insult me. We say ruddy a lot.
Starting point is 02:56:08 Do we? We insult people by saying that. Really? Yeah. Really? Ruddy. Yeah, I think we call it a ruddy complexion a lot when someone looks like shit. Oh, well, I look like shit and I'm dumb, apparently.
Starting point is 02:56:17 I don't think you're... You're not ruddy, though. You have no ruddiness. Dumb, that's to be debated. Okay. That's fine. Catherine Grabham. Grabham?
Starting point is 02:56:24 Grabham? Is it Grabham? Go ahead and grab him. Right. Catherine Grabham. You's fine. Catherine Grabham. Grabham? Grabham? Is it Grabham? Go ahead and grab him. Right. Catherine Grabham. You're moving quick. Grab him. Mariela Rosas.
Starting point is 02:56:31 She's wonderful. She's on Twitter and Instagram and everything. She's awesome. Thank you. Todd Crago. Taylor Chaney. It's probably Chaney. Sarah Peters.
Starting point is 02:56:40 Ashley Boxler. Ted Cyrus. Sticking around. Thanks, Ted. Nikki Koffel. Holly Newarty. Newarty. Newarty., sticking around. Thanks, Ted. Nikki Koffel, Holly Newhartley. Newarty. Newarty.
Starting point is 02:56:48 Yes. Yeah. Yes. Sure. What the hell? Fuck. Erica's. Shit.
Starting point is 02:56:55 Cernajewski. Oh, nice one. Yeah. Before you go on to, I want to insert a shout out. I got to insert a special shout out because this is a weird one. Okay. This is strange. This is an odd shout out.
Starting point is 02:57:04 Okay. We tried to rent that. We're trying to rent this house right we need to we're trying to we need a place with a studio i need an extra bedroom we can turn into a studio because we're we're really building like a no shit studio so uh and this one's got a fucking dungeon this one's got a dungeon it's amazing so uh we're trying to rent this house and it's a nice house and um you know the guy he's kind of he's like what he like, he's just a 50-year-old businessman. And he doesn't know what the fuck. He's like, how do you make money? And I'm like, well, I got these podcasts.
Starting point is 02:57:31 And he's like, what the fuck is a podcast? He had no idea what I was talking about. I had to explain it to him for two hours. Basically, he just looked at me like, yeah, I don't know, guy. That's great. So anyway, long story short, a friend of his is picking up his kid from a play date at this man's house. And the guy says, when are you guys moving? Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 02:57:49 Small talk. Small talk. Have you sold the house or rented the house? He goes, ah, these couple just came to look at it tonight. And the guy said, oh, yeah, what are they, nice people, whatever? He goes, yeah, yeah, they're nice people. He said our names. He goes, a couple named James and Sarah.
Starting point is 02:58:01 He goes, I don't know. He hosts some kind of podcast. I don't even know what that is, podcast thing and uh podcast thing and he knew the name he goes a crime and sports and some murder one and he said this guy whose name is troy right thank you so much troy he said he's known this man for 15 years this troy man and he's never heard him cursed before this troy man ever never heard him cursed and the guy said that troy said holy fucking shit j James Petrogallo from Crime and Sports and Small Town Murder.
Starting point is 02:58:27 Those guys are fucking hilarious. Oh, my God. Those guys are great. I love those guys. Holy shit. Can you get me an autograph? Yeah, on my fucking lease paperwork. So this guy was like, the guy goes, he sat in that chair for an hour.
Starting point is 02:58:41 You want to sit there? He was making fun of him, basically. But it was like, it's hilarious that, Jimmy, you've been recognized a couple times too. I never get recognized for ever, ever. I go right under the radar. It's awesome, though, that it comes with your name. And the only time came with when it actually counted
Starting point is 02:58:56 and actually got assigned. The guy we just signed the lease yesterday. And I swear to God, it's because of Troy. Way to go, Troy. I don't know what the fuck a podcast is, but he saw that a normal person was very excited by it, and he said, it must be something, I guess. go, Troy. I don't know what the fuck a podcast is, but he saw that like a normal person was very excited by it, and he said, it must be something, I guess. Fine.
Starting point is 02:59:08 I guess he can pay the rent. So thank you, Troy, very much for that. I appreciate it. Wrong story short. Good looking out. Good looking out. Definitely. Come hang out and barbecue with us.
Starting point is 02:59:18 You know where the place is. No doubt. Jennifer Lamb, Laura Blakeslee, Daryl L., Janice Hill, Samantha Ritchie, Kelly Miller, Nicole Marino, Bryant O'Toole. He donated on Patreon and PayPal. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much, Bryant. So much.
Starting point is 02:59:30 Shanna Walter, Ann Nitsch, Lauren Siebold, Jessica Hartke, Donald Sinclair, Lindsay Rustan, Jessica Morgan. Yes, I think that's a Morgan. Damn it. Fucking I'm terrible at reading and writing. I know Anthony Mason. It's tough when you've done both sides of the coin there. That's a tough one. Helen Banton, diarrhea, cha-cha-cha.
Starting point is 02:59:53 That's my favorite. That made Sarah so happy. I had no idea when that email came through. She showed that to me. She sent me a screenshot of it. Brandy Finley, Paul Roost, Brittany Caitlin, Forrest Tesler, Jake Labierre. Thank you so much, Jake, for sticking around. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 03:00:07 You're a hell of a dude. Scarlett Agcaoli. It's probably Ag. Anthony Holloway. No, Holloway. Robert Emmett, Madison Flatt, Courtney Kurtz, James Asselta, David Boucher, I think. Tyler Evil. No, damn it.
Starting point is 03:00:23 Gwil. That's what it is. Tyler Gwil. That's a big difference. Evil to Gwil. That's what it is. That's a big difference. Evil to Gwil? Well, my G looks like an E and my U looks like a V. That's handwritten goodness right there, everybody. That's what I'll say about that.
Starting point is 03:00:35 That's amazing. That's how you know it's fresh squeezed. That's how you know it's heartfelt, god damn it. Jimmy's fucking it up. Jennifer Levinson, Chuck Brookman, the awkward human. Kathleen Thill's sticking around. Thank you, Kathleen. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 03:00:49 Kathleen, I love her. She's been around forever. You're fantastic. Robert Burns, Ramona Holmberg. I know a dude named Holmberg, and they're all related, so I hope they're related. Shante Wright, Ashlyn Donahoe, Melissa Reischick. Yes, Reischick. That's probably right.
Starting point is 03:01:05 Jared Hohe, I think. Shannon Stevens, Tom Milligan. Say again. Yeah, Hohe. Or Hey Ho. No, it's Hohe. Hey Ho. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:13 Under the Sea Fabrics, Holly Gottlieb. And Under the Sea Fabrics makes a lot of stitching shit, like cross-stitch shit. Yeah, they're cool. And so there's a lot of people that cross-stitch. Go find her. Yeah, yeah. Holly Gottlieb, Matt Newberg, Michael Moore, Mariva Bone, Kate and Carrie, no last names on either, Kay King, Dent Arthur Dent, James Bond named Dent, Arthur Dent.
Starting point is 03:01:37 David Seeley. Crisp, Jose Crisp. Bobby Vint, Rachel Baque, B-A-Q-U-E with the fucking squiggle over the E. Oh, yeah, that's Baque. That's like Jack A. Yeah, for sure. Morgan Garlick, happy anniversary. Your husband is very happy to be married to you.
Starting point is 03:01:54 Yeah, good for you guys. And he really enjoys blowies. That's what I'm told. I don't know. Jacob Kaiser. That's not Jimmy's fault. He had to say it. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 03:02:03 Roscoe Van Damme, Rhiannon Pike, Laurie Snyder, Matthew Burlington, Cammie Renee, Chris Hillis, and Timothy Smith. You guys fucking Thank you guys. Thank you so much for everything you do. We don't have fans, we have friends. And I really appreciate you guys being our friends. Thank you. We appreciate the shit out of everything
Starting point is 03:02:19 that you do for us because this is all you guys and the show continues because of you guys. It's definitely not for business or anything like that, especially crime and sports. This is for love. Crime and sports is for love, damn it, and you people make it so the love isn't hurtful. It's great. Last week,
Starting point is 03:02:35 I said, thank you guys for being our friends. And I was at the end of a story with a shitload of Golden Girls references and nobody fucking saw it. It was a worthless pun, bullshit piece of garbage. But thank you, guys. We really do appreciate your efforts on that.
Starting point is 03:02:53 Thank you. People don't notice. It's fine. It's all right. Thank you guys so much for everything you do for us. Honestly, we love you so much, and we couldn't do it without you. And what if one of these fine people wanted to tell you about something that happened to them at the China Club? How could they do that?
Starting point is 03:03:08 You can find me at WisemanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N sucks, on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat. And I will probably have one more space open on Facebook because Charles Oakley is going to hate this. Oh, definitely. And I am at JimmyPIsFunny. Charles Oakley will want to kill me. If you are Charles Oakley and you want to friend me or anything like that, you can just copy and paste my last name from the show description because you're not Anthony Mason, so you won't be able to spell it like he is
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