Crime in Sports - #123 - The Revenge Of Mr Pancake - The Anonymousness of Lee Siner

Episode Date: July 9, 2018

This week, we dig deep to find a story of pure crazy. Gangsters with cartoon character names, street violence, and a brutally beaten physics professor. This man started a beef with the silliest sounding gangster in the entire world, but didn't learn his lesson, and kept on with his antics, and insanity, leading to a stabbing, a shooting & more! This is truly one of the weirdest & most hilarious stories we've ever encountered!!Develop a rip roaring cocaine & whiskey problem, knock a gangster out cold, and be hunted in the streets for years with Lee Siner!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!Contact us on...twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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You've never heard of him. No one has unless you're insanely specifically a fan of something and you're from a very specific area. No one's ever heard of this guy. So that's what's going to be fun. But it's got some characters who can best be described as like Fat Albert cartoon characters. That's what they sound like from around the way. Is it dumb nicknames? It's insane.

Way to used to hear these people and what they do. It's ridiculous. This is not – hear these people and what they do. It's ridiculous. This is not, you can't believe this is real. It's just the most silliness we've had in a long time. It's a lot of fun. I believe you. It's nice, too, because we've had a lot of guys lately and a lot of people lately who have been, like, you know, wealthy and big stars. And this guy is not that, which kind of makes it more fun a little bit, too, from another standpoint.

I mean, it's fun to make fun of someone's ultimate failure and fall from a high grace. But also the people who never quite achieve grace, but act like they did. They think they did. They act like they did. And they act like they're entitled to a certain behavior. They're kind of funny. And this is one of those guys. But before that, I do have to thank everyone, not only for joining us, for all of your itunes reviews this week fucking so helpful they're so helpful they

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Terrific. Honestly, we're going to a different land. Yes. We're going to England. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I know nothing about it. I've heard that.

We've touched on England before. Neither of us are that educated on it, uh you you're extra it's almost like you've done it's almost like you've avoided the information on purpose like if someone said you know in england you've been nope don't tell me mother no i don't want to hear it i don't want to hear it he's walking away don't spoil the surprise if you mention anything just mention anything where in england just runs away i want to find out in my 50s and go get the fuck out of there. I mentioned Elton John. Jimmy runs away.

He doesn't want to know a thing about him. It's not even about England. I was going to talk about you could buy Yellow Brick Road and all of a sudden he fucking takes off.

I don't want to know. He doesn't want to know. So I'll respect Jimmy's wishes but not today. Today he's going to find out some shit. Well not some shit about England really

but some crazy stuff that happened in England. England's one of these countries and we got it. Can't wait to go there. Well maybe not some shit about England, really, but some crazy stuff that happened in England. England's one of these countries, and we can't wait to go there. Well, maybe not after this episode, because people will want to kill us in England after this episode. At least a few. There's at least one guy. Specific guy. One specific man who, if he's out of prison by the time we get over there, will definitely want a piece of us.

Not be happy. He's kind of petty. This isn't even the athlete we're going to talk about. This is somebody else. No, he's just somebody on the periphery of the story. Not the periphery. He's right in the middle of it. And it's, oh, my God, I can't wait to tell you about these people.

Holy shit, it's so fun. So fun. We're going over to England. We're going to talk about Lee Siner. Okay. You know who that is? No fucking idea. I think it's Siner.

L-E-E-S-i-n-e-r that sounds like signer signer i think it's not going to be sinner with one n so i'm going to go with signer okay so lee signer he's from it seems to be i can't get like a there's no like good profile on him he's a british amateur boxer oh so you know what i mean he never made the pro ranks not because of skill because he was actually considered a real up and comer. He's like a champion amateur. His own undoing. His idiocy and his he doesn't really have a lot of focus unless it's in a bad place.

He could use some Adderall. He could use some something. He's got a hot temper. Every time people talk about him encountering him, they're like, yeah, he was all scraped up and his knuckles were scraped. Like he always judges just going scratch. He's always just coming from a brawl like just everywhere all the time not like in a gym yeah like oh i saw him out to dinner and it looked like he just he had blood on his shirt like and he was perhaps fine seemed fine but he had blood on his shirt like a six-year-old latchkey in his 30s that's what he is except fighting everyone because he's got

really good boxing skills but now he's just taking it to the streets and i don't have a single picture of me uh pre age eight where i'm not just filthy like i look like yeah yeah this well were you covered in blood with scratches on your knuckles like you just fought it was all so dark it could have been blood at one time mud mud blood no i have no idea i think there's some dog poop mixed in there. I was rolling around. It all turns brown eventually. Eventually it just turns into this slurry that's all over my skin. Could have been anything. It's like Schwarzenegger when he's hiding from Predator.

I put that on my face as a child. So Predator would not have found you as a child. You would have just been walking through the yard and Predator would have just crossed you like nobody's business. Just walk right on by. Everybody see that shit? No, not at all. Jimmy's covered. He's good.

I just pictured now your pig pen. I was. Jimmy is pig pen with a cloud behind him. It was so gross. Giant cloud. We all were as boys. That's what we did. I mean, not to gender it, but seriously, with us, with boys, I went outside.

I wanted to be outside and playing some sort of ball or something. If my mother or grandmother licked their thumb and cleaned my face, I would have had just like a stripe of clean. And then they would have washed their hands and never done that shit ever again. It would have looked like war paint. Like if they just made a couple of lines, it would have looked like you were that color and then we put white paint on your face. Exactly. So gross. That's such a vile child.

Well, this Lee Siner, I'm not sure about his vileness as a child. I do. I'm pretty sure. See, I'm not even positive. I'm pretty sure he's from the Liverpool area. So I don't know whatever that's worth. You got me. Liverpool is a city in England.

I'm not good at geography. I wasn't asking you for the lines of longitude. Good thing. Damn good thing. Give me the exact location, the GPS of Liverpool. Because I can't do that shit with Baton Rouge. When you're done, we're going to Manchester, Birmingham. I want everything.

I want it all, Jimmy. Lay it out. I'm not good. I'm sorry. I'm not good with England. You're going to Manchester, Birmingham. I want everything. I want it all, Jimmy. Lay it out. I'm sorry. You're going to have to do it. How can you not be good with England? Come on, Jimmy. I know enough to know I think their family that bullshitly runs the country is obsolete. That's all I know.

That seems silly. It all seems pretty silly, doesn't it? Obsolete is a good word for it. I just like silly. Yeah, that's a seems silly it all seems pretty silly doesn't it obsolete's a good word for it i just like silly yeah i think you know what i think though i i'm this is outsider looking in obviously brits you feel actually don't feel free to correct me go fuck yourself i don't care what you actually think i'm not gonna this is his opinion but this is just from an outsider it seems like you keep them around right and they spend millions of dollars of taxpayer i assume money and all this type of shit because it's like a built-in soap opera family that you can all talk shit about right but you all know them a soap not everyone watches the same soap

opera that's a good point but everyone knows the royal family is the centralized soap opera so you can go anywhere in england and just walk in and be, you know, dildo face did this and that. And they're like, fucking not dildo face. I don't like him. Everyone's got an opinion on Prince dildo face and Prince whatever the fuck. It's the original survivor, but nobody gets voted out. Whichever. I'm calling the bald one dildo face.

I don't know. I feel worse for him. Well, you know he hates Curly over here. He's just fucking shooting lasers in his eyes like this mother son of a bitch. He used to be the hot one, the bald fuck. Now he's like, you son of a bitch. I look like I'm 60 and you look like you're going to play ball with Charlie Brown. With Jimmy and Pig, with Pigpen and Charlie Brown, Jimmy Wissman with a cloud behind him.

He aged into being digestible on the eyes eyes whereas the other one is like he's turning into gollum he was like shit it's like zuckerberg he looks like you know he's one of those guys who always looks like like an old teenager you know just like an old depressing weird yeah i remember when you used when everybody used to want you and now we're like get him the fuck off my tv now him and the other one charles there's all the old man. They look pretty similar now. Now they're looking like there could be brothers. They're for sure. Father and son.

Well, you know, their father and son. Now the other one. No, I'm not. So now that we've offended England, but I feel like I don't really care because it's it's really it's silly. You guys have. It's crazy. The royal thing is silly.

It's ridiculous. I feel like that's what it is. You want something to talk about when there's a wedding. You guys all get to tune in. You talk about you talk shit about what this one was wearing you talk shit about that one i don't like her i don't like him i think that's what you're doing yeah but maybe i don't know either way they're over there and they're still they're still they own a lot of countries still doing nothing for nothing nothing for nothing and somehow canada's still a part of that i don't know how how the fuck does that. I don't know how. How the fuck does that work? I don't know. You're across an ocean.

You're eight times the size. Less people by far. But huge. Just super involved. Just way over there. You still have the queen's face on your money. The fuck is wrong with you guys? Get your shit together, Canada.

God damn it. You guys are better than that. You are. It's true. You're better than having another country's queen's face on your goddamn money. Put something. Put Gretzky on a dollar and just make it the end of it australia still deals with the fucking queen's shit they're way far away too and they're just way up her ass and also too like canada i feel like they're too polite to leave australia they'd be like fuck you you know like fuck giving them the finger you dicks throwing. Throwing beers at her. Yeah, throwing beers at her. Sicking kangaroos on her.

You fucking cunt. They'd be like, get the fuck away from me. Like, that's what I feel like that would be like. But somehow they're like, I don't know if they're greasing him under the table. I don't know the economics of this relationship. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about. But he's from England, is what we were getting at here. So coming up, he's a boxer from a young age, this Lee Siner.

Back to who we were talking about. Not Prince Dildo Face or anybody else. I meant to say Prince Dildo Face is a random prince. There's probably someone that fits. To be somebody that's all football. Not to be someone specific. So, yeah, that's what I pictured. I just pictured him vibrating.

I'm like, okay, that works. It looks like something you could rub on a clip. They probably have Dildos. Oh rub on a clip. They probably have. Oh, in his face? They probably have. In his likeness? And if they don't, they should make them because it'd be hilarious. That would be really funny.

It would probably work. It would. His big ears would do something for him. So anyway. Oh, Jesus. He starts boxing at a young age. In school, he's boxing. Like, you know, 12, 13. He's fighting in tournaments, that sort of thing.

He looked to be a kid who was on his way to the pros. They can tell when when a kid's really good, like we've covered these boxers before. And most of them, not all of them, some of them come into it later. But most of them are like he came in the gym and I saw him hit a heavy bag with two punches and he was better than everybody else that i've been training for five years this wasn't quite that but he was definitely like a pro not a prodigy but a prospect we'll put it that way but he would always find whatever stupid shit he could get into based on temper he would do okay like we said covered in blood all the time always look scratched up he would get in fights for no reason he would you could get him to do things he'd be the type of guy where you'd be like hey let's go do that and he'd be like all right and just go cool and just go do

it even if it didn't benefit him at all he's that type of guy there's a lot of shit he does that really has no benefit for him whatsoever there's not like a plot where if he pulled that off this is the benefit he would have got it's just like oh wow you're stupid as fuck like There's not like a plot where if he pulled that off, this is the benefit he would have got. It's just like, oh, wow, you're stupid as fuck. There's no like game plan of like, no, this one leads to that one, which leads to that one, which is the big payday. No, no, none of that.

I feel like it's just brain damage. I feel like this man was hit in the head too many times at an early age and fucked his head up. And he does dumb shit mixed with he's possibly an idiot also. Great. So we'll see. So, yeah, the temper's his big thing. Big, big temper.

He ends up fighting for the Salisbury, I guess it's Salisbury, like the Salisbury steak, I guess, S-A-L-I-S. The worst. Yeah, Salisbury steak. Yeah, awful frozen dinner. It's the Salisbury ABC Boxing Club and frozen dinner steak Emporium. Frozen dinner steak Emporium.

Emporium, that's what they sell from there. That's the word that puts it over. We have children boxers, and we have just an Emporium of terrible fucking frozen dinners with an awful sauce that tastes like shit. And it smells weird. Might find a mushroom floating in there. We don't know. And those marks on it are not grill marks they're not grill marks how those got

on there indentations with grill marks painted on which is disturbing to go to that much trouble he's got that job that runs the to press and paint you might as well just slap it on a grill for five seconds just off one little sear. The grill mark got it. It's off. It's so much quicker. Instead, they got somebody I picture with a nail polish bottle. It'll cook off. It'll cook off the toxins.

The microwave will get it off. So, yes, they produce children boxers and frozen dinner steaks at this particular boxing club and Emporium. Now, Lee fights there. And this is a prestigious boxing club and Emporium. Now, Lee fights there, and this is a prestigious boxing club too. You can take lessons and stuff there, but he was fighting for them in tournaments and representing them. You're

considered a good prospect if you're doing that, if they have an interest in you, if they think you're that good. He fights alongside a guy named Derry Matthews, which is an aggressively in english name derry rry drry matthews uh this guy actually uh does go pro and in the future he is a 38 12 and 2 uh pro fighter not bad so he turns into a good fight no he's the uh uh former british commonwealth uh light uh lightweight champion, former English IBO International British Masters WBU featherweight champion.

He also fought for the undisputed titles for the IBO and WBO. 52 fights and he won 38 of them. That's pretty fucking good. That's not bad. 20 by knockout, too. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, he'll knock your ass out. This guy's pretty tough.

And this is the level of fighters that he was that this lee signer was was around uh he won in 2002 this uh derry matthews wins the aba bantam uh bantamweight championship which is an amateur uh tournament uh now this guy which is hilarious he did all of that had a very good career derry derry had a very good career all those pro. Derry had a very good career. All those pro fights, well-respected. He opened up a gym where he trains people. It's in Liverpool. And he also has a boxing program for kids with disabilities that he runs from his gym. And on the other hand, great guy.

He's done all sorts of good with his life. I mean, with the hand he was dealt dealt he did the best he could with it now he tries to help others even while making a living still and being a productive member of society and on the other hand uh lee signer who's a complete jackass i love it when two people are right next to each other in the same place they could they're in the same place it's like in comedy if you're with somebody, you picture any of your two big comedians. A lot of them know each other. A lot of them started out at open mics together. You know, there was another guy you've never heard of

that was also standing next to that guy who's never done anything. But at one point, they were at the exact same place and trying to do the same thing. And they're fairly well even- keeled on terms of talent. Yeah, exactly. It's not like that guy blows you away and this guy. But yeah, these guys were equals.

And then this good career. Helps kids, the other side. Known as a good guy. Makes a good living for himself. And then this asshole. March of 2000, while he's still with the with the with the uh emporium here with the salisbury's dinner steak emporium uh he's only put that cherry dish oh well that's good in the top there yeah and those little mashed potatoes i'll eat the fuck out of it i'll eat

lots of butter i love any instant shit mashed potatoes i love really good mashed potatoes sarah will kick my ass if i say that because she makes good mashed potatoes. But I like those, too. I like that. But I'll also eat any shit mashed potato you throw in front of me. The powdered shit? I'll eat it. I'll eat the fucker. Idahoan?

Please. Let's do it. Ida, please, a hoan. That's right. Give me. Give me now. But that cherry shit is far too small. It's like three bites.

It's not even three. You could get most of it. You could get it on one fork if you really wanted to work it's like three bites it's not even three you could you could get most of it you could get it on one fork if you really wanted to work it really wanted to stack it really wanted to get rid of it you could probably do it then you have to run your finger around the inside of it like that's what it is because then you're going where's the rest yeah i mean all this shit steak there's no more pathetic feeling than right after you've licked your finger after running it along the inside of a frozen dinner cherry cobbler and you're like hmm and it's good and then you look down and you go what have i become what have i become who am i who am i what has happened to me my mom didn't see that i was

promising at one point like lee signer but it all went to hell. March of 2000, Lee Siner is only 16 years old. In 2000? 2000. He was born in 1984. He's only 16 years old. He's boxing. He's already in a high-level boxing club and all that. He's still thinking he's going to be a professional boxer.

He's convicted of battery and possession of an offensive weapon in a public place. What is the offensive weapon? We never find out. He's only 16, and he was an amateur boss so this doesn't doesn't make a huge press splash or anything so there's no real details about it we just know later on they find it from court details that this is what happened but god i want to know what it is in a public place so he's fighting with a weapon in a public place, beating someone, batteries. That leads me to, anytime offensive is the word, it makes me think of something vulgar. Whether it's his own dick. With a Prince Harry dildo.

Was Harry the bald one? Yes. That's a shame, too. Harry's the bald one. Anyway, with a Harry dildo, that's what he did. He beat a man in the street with a Harry dildo. With a Harry. Oh, that's really sad, isn't it?

It's a terrible way to be beaten in the street, like a dog. An offensive weapon. What the fuck could that possibly be? An offensive weapon in a public place. So that's his crime. But it's in terrible way to be beaten in the street like a dog weapon an offensive weapon in a public place so that's that's his crime but it's in a public place and he'll have so many issues he never has an issue in a private place yeah everything he does is in the street just does it all in the middle of a restaurant on the street corner on camera in a closed circuit tv this guy everything he does is the most out in the open awesome and everything he has done to him also really half this story is about a beef it's crazy we'll get into it it's nuts but it's not a normal story it's a really really

funny weird okay insane little uh trek we're taking here so march of 2001 this is a year later after he's been convicted of the dildo beating. He's still at the Dinner Steak Emporium swinging his dildo around. Dinner Steak and Harry Dildo Emporium, really. They sell. So it's young boxers, shitty frozen steaks and dildos in the shape of our monarchs. I feel like that's what they have to offer there at this particular. Sounds great. It's a great Emporium.

It's a one-stop shop really especially for a pervert yeah if you get like a pedophile it's like oh a young boy a muscular young boy uh some frozen steaks because i don't know how to cook and uh yeah so that's some pensari dildos that i'll need for the young boy anybody that eats those steaks like consistently oh you're a pedophile all of that shit in their apartment oh they have it anyway there yeah they have it that's fine a muscular young boy chained to something and a weird dildo pressed in the shape of a monarch yeah of whatever monarch doesn't matter which one pick your monarch that's all right pick an obscure one take it one of those princesses

you've never heard of that they you'll see an article the style of this lady it's like i don't care about the style of some upper crust blue-blooded 60 year old english broad i don't give a fuck what she's wearing the fuck do i care no one cares what she's wearing what are our 25 year old women like oh i want to see her style let's see what fucking mind you she's in her 60s i don't give a fuck what her style is if it's not covered up yeah well her especially not a real person she's a goddamn weird fucking she sits on a chair royalty for christ's sake she had to she had to fuck somebody because somebody else fucked the right person to produce them that's why she's there hey listen that person

we really want you to marry her her he fell out of the correct vagina i mean it was the right one yeah it was like plinko and he popped out so on he popped out of the thousand so you're gonna have to go there even if you don't i know you don't like him it doesn't matter it's gotta be a tough life as as a as a royalty person is that the one yeah it's horrible i would think you're you're if you think living in, in New York or somewhere being like a gay man, if you think your, uh, uh, numbers and your pool of dating has shrunk, try being fucking Royal. Oh man, that's gotta be brutal.

That's gotta be the worst. You can't do much. You can't fuck anybody. Well, anybody you do fuck too, then the whole country talks about it like a soap opera. So you have to pick. Yeah. You can't do that. Like, shh, don't tell nobody about this. There's no drunken one night. No, no to pick yeah you can't do that like don't tell nobody about this there's no drunken one night no no no you can't do that

it's gonna be have you ever seen king ralph look what happens good lord that is our that's where most of our knowledge of uh the british monarchy and uh the succession and how it goes is from king ralph we do know that if there's a large lightning storm or some sort of electrical issue while a lot while a photograph's being taken jimmy could be king we don't know that's the thing he could be filthy he'll show up over there just covered in dirt with his fucking dirt bike trailing behind him and i think i'm king now i will ride it through their fucking i think i'm through their green rolling hills hey this guy told this butler dude told me i was king i think is that is that a thing do i live here now is that my futon no shit so uh march 2001 yeah here he is he's about 17 years old it's a year later uh this is uh

march 2001 it's a tournament uh at the Theater in Barking, wherever that is. There is a lot of very English-sounding kids in this tournament. It's all English kids in this tournament. It's all from the different boxing clubs. Stuart Leonard is a very English-sounding name. I'm just reading all these names. They're great. Colin Thorman.

Colin. C-O-L-A-N. Yeah. Colon. Yeah. Colon. That could be Colin. Colin.

Who knows over there? Jesus Christ. All of these different deals here. But Lee Siner fights in the 71 kilogram weight class here. Fights Brian Barrett in that. He's from the Trojan Police ABC. Nope. Which, I don't know if they're on the case of the missing dildos or what.

Make sure the Trojan Police show up before you one night stand. Do you have it on? Do you have it on? Cover up that, Harry. Cover up your Prince Harry, would you? What a ridiculous sounding thing. They bust in there. But it looks like Lee Siner is the champion here of the 71 kilogram.

He beats Brian Barrett in the finals of this and becomes the 71 kilogram champion here of this tournament. Which, see, promising. Not too fucking bad. Had to beat a few guys and beat this guy. Now, July 2001, a few months later, he's in the Junior Olympic International Tournament. This is in Marquette uh in the u.s here uh where's marquette indiana yeah indiana so he came from england to indiana which is college for the that's what it is right marquette's marquette's a college yeah but i think it's an

area too we have marquette usa they have it listed as so you know it's an english site i got this from but obviously this isn't everywhere uh junior olympic international tournament boxing information from the 2001 but uh he fights in this and this is people from everywhere all over the damn place uh uh here uh lee fights it looks like joel uh joel castillo from the usa and the 71 kilogram uhogram whatever class, weight class. It looks like he loses 3-0. I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's a decision, three rounds to zero or how that works.

Three judges to zero? Three judges. That's what I mean if it's 3-0. That's what I mean, 3-0 judges. I don't know what it is, but it looks like Lee Siner loses that one. It's the July 4th. Well, he's going to, yeah, it's the 4th of July. He's going over. That's nice.

He came over to our celebration. He came over to our celebration, and I'm sure everyone was very nice to him. He showed up to our barbecue and we kicked his ass. I was going to say, that's tough. That's America right there. Come to our barbecue and we'll beat you up. We'll fucking knock you out here in Indiana.

I will punch you in the mouth. You can eat now. Go ahead and eat some beans first, but then I'm going to punch you. America, have some beans and then we'll punch you. How is there Van Camp? Perfect. Vandy Camp. Vandy Camp.

The caviar of Hobo Ray. Vandy Camp makes fish sticks. It was actually Van Camps that makes the beans. Is it? Vandy Camp doesn't make beans? There's no D on it. We were close. We were close.

Whatever. Whoever the fuck makes the goddamn beans. It's the best beans. Fuck Bush's. Yeah, I don't know. Duke's dead now, so who gives a shit? Those are pork. We're talking about pork and beans and baked beans.

They're way different things, Jimmy. Jesus Christ. It's still beans. It is. They're different about pork and beans and baked beans. Way different things, Jimmy. Jesus Christ. It's still beans. It is. They're different. Those ranch beans, though. What's next? Ranch style?

Those things are fucking rad. We're going barbecue beans refried? You want to talk about that now? Is that next? I didn't realize how good beans are. There's a lot of beans. I will eat all those. You will.

I know. There's a lot of beans. They're all amazing. Well, I'm going to say this here. He just loses a tournament, but it is the Junior Olympic International Tournament. So that seems like a big deal. That's a big deal. I haven't done anything in Junior Olympic shit.

No one cares what I do. So I'm going to say it right now. Grace. That's it. That's Grace. He lost. It's a pre-18-year-old Grace. That's what you get here.

He lost. I don't know if we've ever had Grace as a minor before. Grace says you can't vote yet. Yeah, I don't know if we've ever had Grace as a minor before. Grace says you can't vote yet. Yeah, I don't think we've ever got that. Over there, he can't even buy a beer. But Grace, I don't think we've ever got that far. This in basketball, this is the equivalency of pre-college. He's a junior in high school.

Grace, that's what's happening here. Grace, he's still got to go to history class tomorrow. Sorry, all done. All downhill from here guy imagine that as you're in high school knowing that that's all downhill from there that's rough still got a year to go that's why we shouldn't know the future as people because if we did you everyone would kill themselves like most people would kill themselves mass suicide like i'm happy now we get to do this as our job you know sort of and it's good and this is good and people seem to like it and we get to do a lot of shit to go

around the country and meet cool people we get to go around the country and perform and all this this is great but if someone would have told me when i was 16 that's not going to happen for that long i might have killed myself i might have been like you know what i can't wait 20 i'm gonna fucking jump off this building you're gonna wait 20 years to have two years of happiness to be any relevant at all in your own mind and then it's a no i this is craziness so uh this guy luckily for him did not know that and maybe still thought he had a bright future ahead of him which he did not no so no he's got a very dim future ahead of him one year of high school left and then it's dim bulb yeah and uh he kind of drops off we don't know a whole lot about what

happens to him for about the next nine years awesome only only a couple of things that's the best he re-emerges when he's about 28 29 into the world wandering through england wandering through england with blood on his shirt and then scrapes on his knuckles just hanging out figure out where the fuck things are that's basically what it is uh he uh in 2004 he's convicted of a of public order offenses and breaching a community order that kind of sounds like is that like england's version of disorderly conduct is that like he got drunk and pissed in an alley? Breaching a community order. Community order?

What is that? Not to piss in an alley? Not to take a swing at people for no reason? Breaching common sense, I guess. Don't push that old lady down? Don't be a general asshole? Maybe. General nudnickery.

That's the nudnickery order. What's it called? The ordinance. The nudnickery ordinance of this year. Yes, it's brought down all the way from the salisbury emporium i'm sorry it's all the way from there they voted they voted on it we can't change that we can't change it uh so he's convicted of that though so that's something i mean uh he's another little crime and that's just after he's been bouncing around the country for three years that's's it. I mean, he's about 20 years old. I mean, he's kind of done with boxing by this point.

He's already quit. He's just still, he might still be, this might be the very, very tail end of the amateur career, but I think he's out of the dinner steak and Harry Dildo Emporium by now, I believe. He's already been sold along with a steak and an eight incher. So that happens. The finger has been run through the cherry cobbler. That's what it is. It's happened.

It's all around the edges. Okay, then. It's been bad stuff. It's delicious. It's fucking good. It's sweet and delicious. It's goddamn good. I'm not going to argue with you, Jimmy.

It's like a graham crack or something. It's a cobbler. It's on. It's so good. It's a thing that sits on. Well, it's good because it's the sweetest substance known to man. It's washing the flavor of that steak out of your fucking mouth. That's what it is.

It doesn't even taste like cherry. It's beyond sweet. It's just sweet. It's amazing. It really is. And we're complaining there's not enough of it. You really can't have any more of that, or else you'll go into diabetic shock, probably. I feel like it's some sort of really concentrated sugary they reduced it and

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2010 rolls around, and he has some problems with the law again. He's got some substance abuse problems. He loves booze. His favorite thing is to be out in public. He's got some substance abuse problems. I know. He loves booze. Yeah. He loves to be, his favorite thing is to be out in public, fucked up in some manner, and having some sort of scuffle with somebody. He's convicted in 2010 of being drunk and disorderly, which is one thing that's right up his alley.

And also, they were in court. He was saying how substance abuse was an issue for him and he's trying not to do cocaine anymore oh he's you know he's trying jimmy he's trying because when you get a guy with a hot temper a little bit of brain damage and he's good with his fists and likes to drink you want to add cocaine to that fire that's the fuel that you need it's something about like when when you start to get your life on track after like i don't know whatever education thing you've chosen whether it's high school and then you go into the workforce or college whatever whatever your vocational at some point you get your life on track and you

lose track of the people that can get you those things yeah yeah no that's the truth he's now chasing 30 down yeah he can still get coke like i don't know that i could get coke he knows he knows how to get with this medium probably yeah we were like hey i want some coke i get like 14 fucking messages tomorrow like i can get you coke like we don't want coke by the way neither like it's in my personal no i don't know it would be tough for me to figure that out it would be difficult i found out recently i can still get weed yeah because i can weeds around fine yeah black guys plus weeds more around yeah nashville we found that good jimmy just looks for a black guy one of an out of place a black guy who's too young to be in the setting where he's in that guy's got drunk that's my my guy. That was your guy. But that's crazy that he is in a place now in his life, Lee, chasing 30 rapidly.

Oh, yeah. And he's trying to not find coke. Yeah. He's never got away from it. Like, that's where he drifted from boxing into drugs. And he just never changed. He just never stopped. I understand alcohol because that shit's so everywhere.

You can find that in a second. The other thing, too, is he hangs out at pubs all the time and bars. So that's the thing. You don't hang out at bars all the time. If you hung out at bars every night, you'd know where to get Coke. You'd know where to get that. That's the thing. Whenever you hang out at bars, I know people love hanging out at bars and find to hang out at bars.

But if you're one of those people who sometimes find trouble, that's a good place to find it with a bunch of drunk people who are out late at night and on coke probably. The people who still hang on to the people in their inner circle from whatever education form that they chose. They still hang out with those people so they can still get the things that – Or strangers that are gathered just because of alcohol or whatever it is. Whatever means of getting fucked up so 2010 uh he's in prison he's not in prison he's in prison but he's visiting a friend in prison okay he is at uh the hmp garth which is whatever it's in preston uh so uh he's he's not even 26 yet at this point hasn't turned 26 turned 26 yet. He is visiting his friend in prison, which seems like you.

Come on. When you visit someone in prison, you're going to go in and you're going to be fucking. You're not going to fuck around. No, you don't. That's where you go when you're going to play by the rules like you're already right there. It's not a long jaunt. It would take a lot to talk someone out of taking you just to a cell because it's really close and easy to do.

And you've already done whatever deserved to be in there. And it's all on camera in those places. So you're pretty fucked here. So he's visiting his friend, hanging out. Somehow, somehow in the visiting room, he gets in a fight. He gets in a fight in the visiting room of the prison. He heard when you go to prison, you fight somebody. With total stranger yeah okay not even his friend no not someone no no he's visiting his friend and then he gets in a fight signer gets in a fight with another person who was visiting

an inmate another visitor not two inmates fighting so the guards are very confused they're like hold on we're used to breaking up the inmate fights not not the visitors. You two aren't even wearing stripes. You don't even know each other. What are you, fucking stupid? We're in a prison. You've literally met each other 10 minutes ago and you're fighting? You're fist fighting in a prison. You fucking idiots.

So around people with badges on, you fucking dummies. So who he gets into a fight with is the great part. This is the most wonderful thing I've ever. This is the gift of crime and sports. Sometimes you look into things and you find things and they're great. But sometimes you just get a surprise of something you never expected. And this is the gift that keeps on giving. Who does he get in a fight with?

A notorious Liverpool gangster. Oh, no. Now, by the way, imagine, too, they're all white English guys, all these people. So you have to imagine that because it makes it even goofier. So a notorious Liverpool gangster. His name, Jimmy? Okay. If you're going to be a gangster, Jimmy, pick your gangster name.

Peabody Burgundy. Something. All right, that's something. That's your name? I don't know. That sounds tougher than what this guy ended up being saddled with. It's going to be Knuckles or some shit like that. No, no.

I want people scared to death before they even see me. This is James Pancake Taylor. Pancake. Pancake Taylor. Pancake Taylor. Pancake. Pancake Taylor. Pancake Taylor. Jesus. Which you think is embarrassing, but his brother is Hot Cakes Peterson, so that's much worse. That's much worse.

And his cousin, you know, Waffle Malone. Flapjack is in there somewhere. Flapjack Malone, that's him. And Hot Cakes McGee. Short Stacks. Hot Cake Peterson, Short Stack. His family's very large. Yeah.

But Pancake Taylor, okay? short stacks hot cake peterson short stack his family's very large yeah but uh pancake taylor okay this is a notorious gangster that everyone's afraid of james pancake taylor we're afraid of pancake we're afraid of pancake and everyone just calls him pancake it's not no one knows his first name it's james but it's he's just pancake taylor that's what everybody knows him as which sounds fucking made up yeah that sounds like if you're watching a terrible television show and they'd be like in my neighborhood the toughest guy around was pancake taylor he'd come around man you know you'd be scared you'd be running you knew you were you either giving up that money or you running you're running your ass off you know what i mean because pancake will fuck you up everybody pancake coming run it's pancake Hey, everybody. Pancake coming. Run. It's Pancake. Jesus. Cockcakes McGee's.

We're going. So Pancake Taylor here. They get in a fight. Pancake Taylor ain't taking no shit from no one. No. Because he's in jail. He's got to show how tough he is, even though he's not in jail. He's just visiting jail. But he's a gangster.

He's got to show what he's about. This is people that are there for a long time. Yeah, yeah. He's visiting prisoners and so uh this guy uh apparently i don't know if he he overplayed his hand a little bit here uh you are a notorious gangster but what they do do in prison uh is they will take all your weapons away before you go in so if you're in a visiting room uh and you're gonna fight someone you better fucking know how to throw hands and you better not choose a fucking former amateur champion boxer to fight with because he'll probably fuck you up did he win that's what happens in this case lee knocks

him out fucking cold in the in the visiting room knocked out pancake yeah he pancaked the fuck out of pancake i mean he turned him into a pancake he had that name before this guy knocked him out but now he's flattened now he's flattened so this is that's the stupidest that's how tough pancake thinks he is he thinks that signer's gonna back down from him and signer's like i will kick your fucking ass and he you know that's why you don't fuck with people you don't know who's an amateur boxing champion who's gonna knock you out cold in one shot well as you might imagine pancake is none too thrilled with this versus this how this happened uh pancake woke up pancake wakes up and he's got a rep besides the fact that his name is pancake he somehow let that slip by

but uh you know he's got to protect the rest of his rep i guess he's like i'm already letting people call me pancake i gotta fucking let i gotta draw a line somewhere so old pancake is uh he's pissed yeah like super fucking mad uh to the point where it's known that he's telling everyone that fucking Lee Siner's dead. I'm going to fucking kill this guy. Oh, don't know him from Adam. Met him in a place. Talk shit to him. And we had a fair fight and he knocked me out.

But he's got to die for that, which is pretty pussy. But he's got him. He's got like a hit on him. Oh, he's not a hit, but he's going to get him himself. He wants. Oh, OK. He's it's just it's known that if I see this motherfucker, yeah, I'm looking for him. And he's in trouble, basically.

Me, Hotcakes McGee, Flapjacks McGillicuddy. We're all coming down tomorrow. It's fucking bad. You're giving the English guys fucking Irish names. That's all right. That's why they're gangsters. I like that. I like that a lot.

But I feel like Flapjacks McGillicuddy's overweight. Yeah. He's in the back of the pack as a runner. He's like, I'll catch up with you. I'll catch up with you. I'm going to get a cab and I'll meet you. Yeah. I'm going to meet you.

And he just meets them there. He's got syrup somewhere on his clothing. And he's like, boy, hold on. Let me get that syrup. I got heartburn. That's good syrup. syrup okay now what was i getting at we were mad at the young man we were running we were very mad and i was running and i think i had a heart attack but the syrup revived me it's gonna be okay all right

maple can save a life that maple syrup's a wonderful thing. We should have never let Vermont go. Southern fucking Irishman. Oh, he's a Southern Irish gangster. That's how it works. So it's the panhandle behavior, as we've discussed in Small Town Murder. So this guy's super pissed. Pancake Taylor swears revenge. Swears it.

He swears it. He decrees it. Pancake Taylor, literally in the streets is like i will have my revenge yeah the revenge of pancake which is definitely the name of this episode the revenge of pancake this is what i mean we can't go to england no this man will probably kill us like we can't go pancakes gonna look for us this guy just punched him in a fair fight we're gonna make fun of pancake for the next hour like pancakes pancake is fucked right now he's gonna hate our fucking guts so uh sorry pancake you're not scary pancake i'm not scared of pancake taylor although let's listen

to the rest of the episode you might be more scared of pancake taylor uh pancakes a serious dude uh he doesn't fuck around no uh not really no he goes we'll find out now police this got so bad the police actually like went to signer and said uh you need to get the fuck out of town uh you should leave town like all every informant we have like it's not even a secret this guy's openly hunting you so you're probably gonna get attacked at some point you should probably leave fucking town. But this guy, being a brain damaged coke head, lunatic, fucking hot tempered, drunken boxer, was like, fuck you. I don't give a fuck.

Bring him. I already knocked that bitch out. Fucking bring him on. Literally, he was like, I don't give a fuck. He's like, I'm going to leave my town. First of all, I'm broke. So that's not happening. All my coke connections are here.

So that's also not happening. Third of all, fuck him. I'm not fucking'm not fucking scared embarrassed him he should be changing his name like i hopped it yeah it's a burger yeah he's gonna be burger taylor burger man taylor that's james burger taylor that's him right there so he so he just stays he's just like fucking the cops like repeatedly try to convince him to leave they're like dude seriously we're telling you we fucking heard things your life's in danger you need to go and he said ah get the fuck out of here okay so he's like they're like shoulder shrug yeah well well i guess i guess that's that i mean what you can't force a man into some sort of protective whatever or they didn't even offer

a map they just said you should leave town which is you know pretty vague yeah but he didn't leave he stays you ever been told to leave town i haven't no i've never i think i'd heed that warning i've never had police come to me and say you should leave town because that's like there's nothing we can do the fbi does that with always has done that with with mobsters where you know they'll pick up chatter on their wire and they'll have to go to the guys and that's the law they have to fucking inform people their lives are in danger really oh absolutely oh if they pick up anything like that even if it fucks up their shit like they have to go tell the guy i mean i don't know how much they might be like let's hide that recording for a while because i don't want to you know jeopardize our tap but

if they have anything going on where someone's life is in danger and someone has said they're going to kill someone or whatever they have to go tell that person that's a good law it's a well yeah plus they can then use that as a way to make them flip. Like, hey, you should tell on that guy. He said he's going to kill you, which they lie a lot of the times and say, he said he's going to kill you. And he didn't say that. Fuck yeah, they do that all the time.

Jesus. It's kind of like on the wire, Jimmy. When they have the two kids in separate rooms and they have the one walk by with a big bag of McDonald's eating French fries right after they said your buddy just flipped that makes sense your buddy just flipped on you we got him fucking double big mac we got him two big macs large fries he's doing fine with no pickles and then they walk the guy in front and he just walks by eating mcdonald's and the kid's like what the fuck man what'd you do he's like what are you talking about you know they just dragged the other kid away and he's like no no it was him he shot him blah blah blah

meanwhile no one said anything that makes sense yeah it's what they just lie to you that's clever work it's what they do but sometimes it's also real the fbi the fbi will end up like playing recordings for people to tell them that it's real that would be what i'm requesting let me hear that shit here's these two guys discussing how they're going to murder you like maybe you should leave press play which then makes you more likely to talk about them. And there you go. That's their game. So anyway, October 2010. Siner here. He's at the Mediterranean restaurant called Chemos.

It's near Toxteth in Liverpool. I don't know where the fuck that is. It's like a section of Liverpool or a street. No idea. No. I know nothing about Liverpool. It could be a gated community for all I know. It could be.

It really could be the next Emporium. It could be the biggest dildo shop in town. I'm not sure. So he's there. He eats dinner. Apparently, as he's leaving the restaurant, he is ambushed by three masked men. This is no shit. With a samurai sword and a baseball bat. What the fuck?

Yeah, they're not fucking around. This isn't a couple guys coming up trying to fist fight him. This is a masked man with a samurai sword. That's a crazy sight. I've never been approached by a masked man and a samurai sword. I had a friend with one hanging on the wall and that was the last time I

talked to that guy. That's it. If you were leaving, let's say you go to fucking, you know, wherever wherever shit restaurant i don't know wherever the hell you're going you go to whatever restaurant you're walking out and you're just strutting out and all of a sudden a masked man with a samurai sword pops up you're gonna assume there's trouble yeah i was i'm eating at a shit place yeah that shit's going on that's a yelp review masked men with samurai swords lurking the parking lot i do not appreciate being accosted by ninja warriors after I pay full price for a meal. So he is ambushed. They have a samurai sword and a baseball bat.

Now, who are these people? Who do you think they are? Pancake Taylor. Pancake Taylor is on the scene. He's one of them. He's on the scene. That's what I mean. He's doing it himself.

Pancake Taylor, on the scene. He's one of them. He's on the scene. That's what I mean. He's doing it himself. Pancake Taylor, he does it himself. He's not one of these guys that just contracts shit out. He's a do-it-yourselfer. That's what I like about him. DYI guy. He's a DIY guy. DIY, that's it. DIY.

Right after they did this. DYI. DYI, yeah. Right after they did this, he went home, painted his whole garage on his own. He didn't know help from anybody. So, you know, that's the kind of guy he is. He'sI. D.Y.I. Yeah. Right after they did this, he went home, painted his whole garage on his own. No help from anybody. So, you know, that's the kind of guy he is. He's just a cat. So he does need help today, though.

He has Anthony Richardson with him, who's another gangster friend of his who we'll talk about, who's fucking hilarious, too, because he goes out with a bunch of famous women. Oh, which is funny as shit. Yeah. Anthony Richardson does. These guys are like, yeah, he's a known like kind of gangster of gangster in Liverpool and goes out with, like, actresses and shit. Which is crazy. You can't do that.

You did it in, like, here, like, 50 years ago. Like, Joe Gallo went out and married an actress. Crazy Joe Gallo and hung out with people like that. And gangsters would marry actresses in, like, the 50s and 60s. Like, that shit doesn't happen in real life. No. You don't hear, like, a notorious criminal is going out with fucking whatever actress. It's not, you know, I've never heard that.

I mean, unless it's a rapper. You know what I mean? It's not an actress. That's right. No, I'm saying like a rapper that's like doing dumb shit too on the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a legit means of income also. That's the truth.

That's the problem. But this is like a real gangster with nothing else going on who everyone calls Pancake in the streets. So anyway, it's Pancake, Anthony Richardson, and a third guy who's never been identified. This is the crazy part. They never, ever find out this guy's name. This happened in 2010. We still don't know who this fucking third guy is, which is nuts. So they ambush him.

They hack at him with this sword. They call it a machete and a sword alternating. We don't know what it is. A big fucking knife. They hack at him with this fucking machete. This is all captured on closed circuit security television. These three guys and him trying to get away from them. It's fucked up.

Like first he tries to like close the door on them. Like go back in the restaurant, like close the door. Don't bring that shit in here. I'm having tiramisu. Yeah, but as they're doing that, it's open a little bit and they're stab go back in the restaurant like close the door don't bring that shit in here i'm having tiramisu yeah but as they're doing that it's open a little bit and they're stabbing him in the leg so he's getting stabbed he's getting stabbed in the leg as he's doing that uh yeah he's several he had cuts all over him in the end but he he's he he's kicking at them and they're stabbing at us stabbing him in the fucking leg so that's a bad move here. He ends up all together when this is over

he ends up having we'll tell you what happens first so he's all cut up here. He runs into the restaurant. By the way he won't ever say who did this either. I don't know he's got some kind of weird Xbox or

gangster code or whatever here. Sworn secrecy on who attacked him in public with a fucking huge knife in public completely and they and they have the the the you know the security footage and all that sort of thing uh he ran upstairs and ran to the rear door but it was locked uh is what it says the prosecutor in the the end says he was stabbed in the upper arm and his lower leg was sliced. He ran upstairs and ran to the rear door, but it was locked. Mr. Siner jumped on a bar counter and tried to kick them away, but they hacked away at him with the machete. So that's what we're doing there afterwards, after he's already been stabbed and sliced and everything else. They said they show him on the on the camera uh racing up the stairs

uh people are uh they're chasing him he turns around and throws a chair at the guys who are chasing him uh and he also uh uh after he throws the chair one of the guys hits him with a they call it a car crook lock i don't know if that's like a club maybe like the club you put across your steering wheel i feel like a tire iron of some guy or the boot of some heavy metal fucking object. They swing at him and they're hitting him. So he's getting fucking great. One of the other guys had a six to eight inch knife. Also the sword, like we said, and then a bat and a tire.

A lot of weapons. All sorts of weapons. Basically, they just looked in their trunks and were like, I got all this shit. And I just grab what I just put that in your pocket. We'll need that, too. It's fine. Fuck it. Bring it with you.

So they all do this. They end up fleeing after they stab him up and do all this shit. It took less than a minute for this whole crazy incident to happen. This was in a restaurant where people were eating. This wasn't an empty place. It wasn't two in the morning or anything like that. He had cuts to his head and arms and a six-inch gash of his thigh. They said he had a gash so big that the cop could put his fist in it.

Oh, my God. That's how big of an open gash they had. They sliced him open. But why did they know that? Because it was just open. Did the cop just put his fist in it? I think he did. How big is that?

Can you feel that? What if I twist it? Now? I bet I can get my cock in there. I bet I can get my fist in it? I think he did. I think he said, can you feel that? What if I twist it now? I bet I can get my cock in there. I bet I can get my fist in there. I bet I can get my fist in there. I'll grind my elbow around. He did it. He's going to be all right.

So, yeah, that's how bad it was. That sounds fucking terrible. Also, it cuts all over his head. He had superficial and differing depths cut all over his head and he had like superficial and of different you know differing depths cut all over him and then a fist-sized slice in his leg uh which is pretty fucking crazy uh less than a minute uh people all the people in the restaurant scared scrambled away and fucking people fell down the stairs as they tried to get away and panic and it was like a stampede out of there yeah this is post 9-11 too so it's three masked men with swords chasing another guy who's throwing chairs at.

That's a crazy fucking scene. You have to assume that this is just like terrorist stuff. They could get anybody. It looks like a man's being chased by three fucking ninjas. Like, that's insane. I have no idea who's next. Unless that's Jean-Claude Van Damme, we have problems. Like, this is an issue.

And we all, you know, I think dinner's over now. I not paying fuck it let's get out free right free right i feel like if three ninjas bust in and start swinging around samurai swords i feel like the meal's free that's not part of it that wasn't on the menu i don't remember ninja attack as part of the menu uh it's not your theme or your restaurant if it was called the ninja attack grill right i'd be like this is cool this is what i expect this is dinner Attack Grill, I'd be like, this is cool. This is what I expect. This is dinner and a movie. The show's starting.

Okay, this is good. You know what I mean? I get it. Now I know what's happening. Order your coffee. The lights are about to dim. This is all very controlled. These are professionals.

Stage combat for years. Juilliard. They've really done it. There's blood in my risotto now. What the fuck? This isn't what I expected. That man's leg is literally dangling right off by a tendon so uh unless you're all served salisbury steak then you know that this is this is a piece of shit that's that's all it is it's like we all know it's oh you ever that's

how you know salisbury steak sucks yeah because I've never seen it on a restaurant menu. They've never been like Salisbury steak. That would never get ordered ever. Never in a million fucking years. It's never been an option at any, even red lobsters. Like we probably shouldn't put that on the menu. Why would they have it? Cause it's shit. It is shit.

That is garbage food. Listen, our food is garbage. Everyone sit around. Our food's garbage. How do we put out more garbage? Anybody else think of a terrible food they don't like? I was thinking Salisbury steak. Good, good.

That's an idea. That's an idea. Liver and onions? That's on the menu. Put it on there. That's perfect. I like that. Anything else?

What do we got here? Sausage and peppers minus the sausage. Just a dish of peppers. Just a dish of peppers. No flavor either. Don't add any seasoning at all. Not even olive oil. Vegetable oil.

Make it shitty. Yeah, that's perfect. Vegetable oil only. Make it shitty. Yeah, that's perfect. Vegetable oil. Only. Make it terrible. Yeah. Listen, anybody within earshot of this shit, if you're cooking with vegetable oils, fucking stop that.

That's it. It's not good. Unless it's just to grease the pan. Or you're like- And you're making pancakes. Or you're deep frying something. Right. And you have to, yeah.

Outside of that, fucking- Yeah. Olive oil or better. If you're sautéing some shit- Right. Olive oil, that shit. Yeah, that's it. That's what you need. Olive oil. sauteing some shit right olive oil that shit that's what you do maybe coconut oil but don't use coconut oil that sucks use olive oil the taste is better it's not going to kill you all my relatives are 97 years old and they that's all they they fucking ever trust me everything's greased up great with olive oil olives Olive oil, olives, and wine, and nuts.

That's the key to it. That's all my grandmother ever ate her whole fucking life. She's 90 now. She's fine. She's going to fucking live forever, which is good. We're happy about that. She just went through fucking surgery. She's fine now.

She's 90. Fine. Doing great. The knife glid. Is that it? Glid? Glided? It went right through her.

We're going to go with glided. Right through her because it was lubed up with olive oil. That's it. That's what had happened. And they said, man, she's very tender and juicy have you been have you been basting her yes she's done yes her whole life she's done 89 years of self-basting so uh this is a trade the police they get him in the hospital and they're like uh we're pretty sure we know who this is um remember that couple months ago when you knocked a gangster out who vowed revenge for you in the streets?

Pretty sure this is that, unless you know any other three guys who were that mad at you. I don't know. Which is possible. I mean, I piss a lot of people off. If you punch a lot of people, you're willing to punch a man in a prison. Punch a man named Pancake. You probably punch a lot of people. But this man vowed revenge, and he has now gotten it.

Yeah. So the police right away they they automatically obviously it's the meyer side police or mercy side police sorry mercy with it with an s weird so yeah it's in singleton yeah they use s's where there's is that what they do they stick a u in there i like the way they spell shit yeah favorite is interesting yeah i like that color yeah i like the way they spell gray. I want the E. I don't like the A spelling. Is that theirs?

I don't know what the E spelling is. Yeah. Gray fox with an E looks way fucking cooler. Yeah. We blew that one. Yeah. We blew that. But you can use an E and it's fine.

Anyway, moving on from that. He, Lee Siner, refused to help the police with any help with this. They're like, we know who it is, so we don't really need your help. They automatically said that it was, heard rumors about richardson and they automatically assumed pancake taylor because that was the guy who was pissed off here uh so the uh the police said that said quote mr signer described an incident at garth jail near preston where he knocked out james taylor it is no secret that he is a suspect in this attack having been identified by closed circuit television but he cannot be found by the police in the crown submission. This was a revenge attack of some sort. It was no petty disagreement. It was a carefully planned and executed criminal act. Those involved showed a shocking disregard for the members of the public, unfortunate enough to witness it. That is good shit good shit yeah they sum it up well in england if you don't know uh the first you sir may fuck off right was from an english episode because

in england the other thing they do you guys it's not you don't get as much coverage of shit but what they do cover is what the judge tells someone before they sentence them really every case i find in england it's like a two paragraph like the whole speech where the judge just broke them down and called them a piece of shit and then sent them to jail. This wasn't even a judge. This was just like the investigating officer. Oh, yeah. They're so good at describing things in England. It's amazing.

God, I love it so much. I want to do a crime just so they can describe what I did. So it sounds interesting. When I come to England, my dick's coming out. Just to hear some shit clerk have to describe in amazing detail it'll be it'll sound how horribly disfigured my penis is but it'll sound great he's gonna make my dick sound so he's gonna make no he's gonna make it sound better i think yeah yeah i think or he'll make the ugly just jump off the page that's what i mean either

way people it'll be curiosity it. It's going to be a Harry Potter novel written about my dick. Something like that. A poem at least. Something. They're obviously like I said, looking at Pancake. They're looking at Richardson. Richardson has previous convictions for public

order and driving offenses. What he did is he heard that police were looking for him, you know, because he knew he did it. So he went and turned himself in, this guy. He said, this is fucked up. They get him in there, and they don't have much of a real trial or anything.

He admits to doing this. He takes a deal. He admits to wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm, which I'd say hacking at somebody with a sword is a grievous bodily harm. You're intending something. You're not intending to make them more comfortable. No. I don't think you're like, yeah, you look hot.

Let me ventilate that shirt for you. I don't think that's what he was trying to do there. So he admits to that. His public defender, Nigel Power, is his name. to that uh his defend his uh public defender nigel power yes his name uh he said his client only learned of the plot to attack this guy while he was driving to the car while he was driving in the car to the restaurant he was just he was in the car with his friends and he was just driving they said they were going out to a restaurant it's going to be great and then he you know he said as they were pulling up he's like oh by the way, here's a mask and hack that guy.

There's a guy. And so we're going to hack the fuck out of him with a machete. We're going to the Mediterranean. Here's your mask. Before we eat, we're going to do this. Because if we do it after, we're going to be all lethargic. No one's going to want to. Who wants to chase a guy with a machete after you've eaten a big meal?

Like that sucks. And sometimes you lose your appetite on the side of blood. That's the other thing. So his Nigel Power also said, quote, he became involved in someone else's trouble. He became aware of the plan while he was driving in the car and became swept up in it. In other words, someone said, do you want to go hack a guy up with a machete?

And he said, sure. And that's swept up in it. That means that's your fault. You can't then say that's somebody else's fault. You're not swept up in it. You were asked if you want to do it, and you to it yeah sure that's not swept up that's an accomplice to a horrible crime you fucking asshole the funny thing is around this time march of 2011 uh when uh richardson's being you know turning himself in and all this type of thing

there's an article on for in vice you know know, Vice, Vice Magazine, Vice, and they have a channel and an app and the whole deal. Vice about English gangs. And it's just about how nasty English gangs are becoming and how shit like that is. And they have a bunch of it's like about a bunch of different like current English gangsters and stuff. It's just like it's a weird article on like low level street, not a low level, I guess. But it's hard to think because we don't think of England like that. We're American. So we have kind of an ego about our gangs and our mobs.

We had the Gambino family and the Bloods and the Crips. And like, we're pretty fucking good with our gangs and mobs. We got MS-13, too. That's I mean, we feel like we feel like anything in Europe or anything. It's just, you know, it's just kind of light. You're so cute. Yeah, exactly. That's very that's i mean we feel like we feel like anything in europe or anything it's just you know it's just kind of light you're so cute yeah exactly it's that's very that's adorable that's terrific have you heard how to get how the gambino's disposed of people you can't you've never done that no i don't think if you just a basement of any social club uh put a you know

that's fucking bananas wipe that shit for dna what was it called there a bunch of them there's a ton the one that the gemini club that's the roy de mayo that's that's a bad one yeah that's because they were a crew that was basically just a hit crew and that was like what they did del de mayo was a lunatic that's well never mind whatever but yeah crazy shit you don't have any of those yeah there's no english john gatti no you know what i mean there's no carlo gambino there's no meyer lansky there's no lucky luciano like you guys it know what I mean? There's no Carlo Gambino. There's no Meyer Lansky. There's no Lucky Luciano. Like, you guys, it's just not, we have a historical.

We're good at it. We're good at it. It's one of those things. We perfected organized crime. We've been, yeah, we got real fucking good at it. Real good. So whenever anybody else does it, we're like, that's adorable. Look at you trying.

Look at you. Isn't that nice? Look at you giving it an effort. Anyone outside of South America, because they've gotten their shit down. They're pretty good at it. They're pretty good at it. Yeah, they're fine. But anywhere else, fuck you. Isn't that nice? Get you giving it an effort. Anyone outside of South America, because they've gotten their shit down. They're pretty good at it. They're fine. But anywhere else, fuck you. They do that shit in jungles.

That's terrifying. Yeah, that's scary shit. They've got uniforms and shit for their organized crime. Watch Narcos. Jesus. They were hardcore. Holy fuck. Goddamn.

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only on Freebie. And now back to the show they're talking about here the question they asked for this expert of english gangs yeah quote so there's a lot of rising stars out there in gangland at the moment and uh the guy says that's it they just tear through the ranks there There's this one lad called James Pancake Taylor. He's like a Christ figure among these gangs because he's risen from being a scouse street punk to a European overlord in a

matter of months. It used to take you years to do that. So now you can fly up the ranks. So much so. And this is after you're on the lam because he's on the lam now because they're looking for him for attacking an amateur boxer in the street so that's that's your european overlord is that guy you know what i mean there's not a lot of high ranking you know gang and mob

officials that are caught on tape uh you know attacking a guy outside of a restaurant on purpose you know it's, I don't know. They have other people do it. You give yourself an unassuming nickname, and then you've run through the ranks. That's what it is. Pancake. Oh, you know who I'm afraid of now? Pancake.

Pancake's coming up, and he's been hard. Now, so Richardson here is jailed, and they talk about all the articles about Richardson, Anthony Richardson. Most of them start with the fact that he went out with a famous woman. It's the most, this is the most popular headline. The ex-boyfriend of Calendar Girls star Jennifer Ellison, who took part in Vicious Gangland's sword attack

on Boxer, has been jailed. She likes bad boys. So, yes, she does. Well, this girl, Jennifer Ellison, she's an English actress, a former glamour model, sex symbol, television personality, dancer and singer. Oh. So, yeah, lots of shit. She's perhaps best known for playing Emily Shadwick in the television soap opera Brookside.

That sounds so made up and British. I could have said any words, Emily Shadwick. If I said that to you and that wasn't true, would you question me for one second? That sounds so made up. I'm in. Yeah. And Meg Geary in the 2004 film adaptation of Phantom of the Opera. Jesus.

She also starred in the reality TV show Dance Moms, the UK version of Dance Moms. She played her Emily Shadwick there. She's also been in a bunch of British TV shows. She appeared in a two hour long show called Ghost Hunting with Paul O'Grady and Friends, which I find hilarious. That's her most funny credit. to liking, you know, gangsters and doing terrible TV work. She also puts out music. Yes. After six. This is this. This is so funny.

Under her music section of her Wikipedia page. After success in television and men's magazines. After guys decided they liked her tits and she did some TV shows. She pursued a pop music career. She released two pop rock singles. Singles before giving this venture up for acting and glamour modeling her first one jesus christ june 2003 she came out with baby i don't care which hit number six in the uk on the uk singles chart and number eight on the irish singles chart there same as this sugar i don't care either yeah i don't give a shit. She also got on with 2004's Bye Bye Boy,

when she got to number 13 on the UK singles chart. So that's what she's done there. Also some shit, Joe. Very high in Japan also, because she's blonde. In Japan, that's really... She's got big tits. That's kind of, but it doesn't matter. She's blonde, and in Japan, they're like, oh...

She's blonde and has tits. That doesn't matter. They're attached to her there. So in court, they're like, oh, she's blonde and has tits. That doesn't matter. They're attached to her there. So in court, they're talking about Anthony Richardson, who's caught on camera battering this lease center signer, apparently with the car crook lock after he chased him up the up the stairs and had a chair thrown at him. He was the one that had the fucking lock thing. Yeah. The two other. Then they said after he started hitting him with that thing, the two other guys came and hacked him up with the sword and the knife and all that kind of shit, which is fucking crazy.

They talk about Richardson having a string of celebrity girlfriends. Really? So this guy somehow lands all sorts of famous women. He dated Stephen Gerard's wife, Alex Curran. I hope it's not his current wife if he's dating her. Up until 2002 before he dated jennifer aniston or aniston ellison okay he didn't date jennifer aniston that would be a real my eyes just got big yeah you were like wow really damn he's pulling out some fucking

she's rich she's super famous and uh later celebrity big brother winner chantel houghton oh he also went out with there uh so yeah he's uh now ellison jennifer ellison revealed that richardson was abusive and used to beat her so weird yeah shocking right uh she then go after a stranger he'll hit his loved ones too yeah he'll he'll hit her used to beat her she's now but she she ended up marrying a rugby player named robbie tickle which is fucking hilarious. His name is Robbie Tickle, which is awesome. Pancake Taylor and Robbie Tickle, Jimmy.

This is what I'm talking about. What is happening in this fucking episode? Stop telling me rugby is so tough when you've got guys named Tickle. Robbie Tickle. And they have children. So that's what they talk about with her. They got little tickles? They got little tickle.

Yeah, little, they don't, they didn't, oh, it's Bobby. They named him, he's Tickle Junior. Isn't that nice? Jesus Christ. See, the fucking juniors. This Robbie Tickle's gonna do something terrible and we're gonna do an episode on him.

Jesus Christ. Funny thing is, he's probably a super famous guy. Everyone's like, oh, Robbie Tickle's the best. You don't know Robbie Tickle? No. No. No one knows Robbie Tickle outside of your island. So Taylor, pancakes on the run.

Pancake on the lamb over here. The Anthony Richardson, though, out of all this, ends up getting eight years and four months in prison for this. So that's a serious sentence right there, which, I mean, it's pretty much attempted murder. You rushed into a public place with fucking women and children and normal people eating dinner and tried to hack a man with a machete. That's probably worth eight years and four months. Your money is a different value. Your measurements are different value. Your weather is different value.

But years are the same. They're the same everywhere everywhere that's still the same the same everywhere the detective chief inspector it's a lot of titles chris green from the meyer's uh mercy side police said this uh this sentence handed down to anthony richardson reflects the severity and vicious nature of his assault despite this the investigation into this matter is still ongoing, and we are not complacent. I am anxious to speak to anyone who has information about James Taylor, Mr. Pancake. Stop calling him James Taylor. Yes. There's a famous singer, James Taylor.

Let's just go with Pancake. The revenge of Pancake. Yeah, don't besmirch James Taylor in this. God. It's Pancake. That's it right there. And his attorney is still saying he's saying this. This sentence is

wrong. You know, he wasn't in on the planning. This is ridiculous. He was just in the car, but it doesn't matter. So Richardson's on trial. Pancake flees the country in Richardson's trial to they showed the you know, they showed the surveillance footage while he's, you know, beating someone

while people are hacking at him and all sorts of shit like that, which is damning, I would say. He also pleaded guilty to possession of an offensive weapon. So, yeah, he ended up having to plead on all this. He had previous convictions for public order and driving offenses. But Judge Nigel Gilmore, is everyone in your legal system named Nigel? Everyone? Holy fuck. If you come out and someone names you Nigel, do they just stick a wig on your fucking head

and push you off down to the, whatever the hell you call your courthouse? Whatever the legal, they give you a fucking- Your magistrate emporium? I don't fucking know. They give you a scholarship to the magistrate emporium. That's it. That's what you get. All Nigels.

All Nigels. That's it. They're all in brown jackets. Why is it- With patches. Stop it with the brown.rate of Borea. That's it. That's what you get. All Nigels. All Nigels. That's it. They're all in brown jackets. Why is it? With patches. Stop it with the brown. Yeah, too much brown. Knock it off with the fucking brown.

It's very bleak over there. It is. It's very cloudy. They don't know any better. There's a lot of brown in the fashion. There's a lot of brown. So Judge Nigel Gilmore said, quote, there is nothing in your record to suggest you would do something so criminal and stupid.

You are now paying the price for that stupidity. And he says, you, sir, may fuck off eight years and four months in prison with that uh he also had an offensive weapon he had an offensive weapon a tire thing while he's beating people those hairy dildos are flying off the shelf that's absolutely right uh the uh police uh inspector said in particular i'm looking to speak with the 32 year old james taylor from kdale or anyone who knows of his whereabouts to come forward, as we believe he may have information that can assist us with our inquiry. In other words, we'd like to cuff him to a chair and beat him with a billy club for a little while until he tells us what he did wrong. That's what happened there. So July of 2013, Pancake is one of the most wanted people on the police's list over there here. There's rumors everywhere about where he is, because it's kind of like when Whitey Bulger disappeared, except not Whitey Bulger, not the head of a national criminal syndicate.

The body's just everywhere. More like a Liverpool street gangster. But anyway, either way, people say that they think he's in the Caribbean. Well, you tried, Pancake. You gave it a shot. They say that they think he's in the Caribbean, in the Canary Islands, possibly. Oh. People think that they don't know where he is, but then they actually finally find out where he is.

He's been living in Amsterdam. Not the Canary Islands. Not the Canary Islands. Nowhere near the Canary Islands. Not the Canary Islands. Nowhere near the Canary Islands. Amsterdam. Yeah. In a neighborhood which is nicknamed Little Liverpool. Oh.

So he even hung out where all the other English people were, which is the dumb shit thing to do. You're not Whitey Bulger, sir. Nope, I would say not. Whitey Bulger hid in plain sight in L.A. for fuck's sake. Yeah, right on the beach, just walking around back and forth. Walking a tiny dog and all thatA. for fuck's sake. Yeah, right on the beach, just walking around back and forth. Walking a tiny dog and all that shit. That's it.

So he's leaving the gym one day, getting back on his bicycle. He's a hardcore street guy. Imagine, okay. I don't think Whitey ever rode a bicycle. Picture John Gotti on a 10-speed. I just want you to picture that. See him on a hubby. Hey, this is fucking great.

Hey. Hey, this is fucking great. Hey! Hey, this is fucking fun. Check out my fucking stream. Hey, look at this fucking, they're blowing in the fucking wind, Frankie. Come on! Hey! I got so much money, I put a Joe DiMaggio in the fucking spokes. Look at that. Sam the Bull likes bicycling too. Hey, you know what, guys? Tonight, we were gonna

hijack that truck. We had that heist plan. We were gonna kill that other fucking guy. Let's just go to the park and ride around it three four times what do you guys say this is too much fucking fun you know what i mean what do you say we'll get ice cream from the fucking ice cream man we'll sit around i'll race you sam you want to race me i'll race you the end of the fucking block this is the best here's a pack of tops put a few in your spoke hey oh look at that i'll flip you for the willie mays all right everybody will hear us coming hey this is gonna be beautiful imagine this no heart european overlord should not ride fucking bicycles i don't care if it's europe or not in a sharkskin suit oh my yeah that's a hair

perfectly coiffed hair thousand dollar shoes on just riding the bike hey this is fucking fantastic all right tie streamers at a daryl strawberry you know it pocket square kicking fucking just looking sharp as shit on a bicycle all right i heard there's 58 miles of trails in the park let's go it's so funny you see all that surveillance footage of like Little Italy when they would show like the gang, Gotti and Sammy Gravano walking around. You never saw anybody ride up on a bicycle ringing the bell. Ring, ring. Hey, guys.

Who we hijacking today? Ring, ring. No. The most non-threatening gangster vehicle of all time. So Pancake is on a bicycle. Pancake who rides a bicycle is the hardest they have to offer. This is why we can't ever go to England now. Or at least Liverpool, because this guy's going to kill us.

And we're going to be on a bicycle somewhere. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. We're going to get thrown in a river attached to a bicycle. So apparently this gangster here, Taylor, gets captured as he's getting on a bicycle by the Dutch SWAT team. Dutch SWAT team jumps on him. Hear them coming from their wooden shoes, too. There's several reports that he pissed himself on here. Really?

We don't know if that's just the cops fucking with him. He is so gangster. So far, he's a European overlordord but his name is pancake and he rides a bicycle and pisses himself so this is not this is what i mean why we don't respect your organized crime do you understand where we're coming from now i'm sorry god damn it john god he never pissed his pants especially not get it he never got off a bicycle to do it especially hang on guys hold on i don't want to get pissed on my huffy seat let me get down quick that's never happened unbelievable oh fuck man that's that's the best so apparently yeah that's

that's what ends up happening uh they said they tracked him down uh he was tracked down by britain serious organized crime agency geez's what i mean like dead serious for men who rides a bicycle i'm not sure here uh he's forced face down and handcuffed by dutch cops uh the uh a source there one of the police sources said quote for all his hard man image his reaction would indicate he was a very worried man, which is, I'd say, a polite way to say he pissed himself. That's a very worried man. Yeah, that's piss equals very worried. They found on him a handgun, $1,700 in euros, and he was living in a $2,150 pound a month.

He had a lot of money. uh yeah so he was doing well he was living better than better than fucking most yeah most of the athletes were talking about what's this fuck in oh why can't i leave no no whitey bulger oh yeah i think his rent was lower than that man he's living in manhattan beach i think his rent was probably high no i think it was uh maybe it was manhattan Yeah, I think he was down. He was in a nice area. Yeah. But either way, that's not bad. I mean, he's not like he's not living on somebody's futon. He's not living on a futon. Two grand

a month. He's doing well. And that's you know, in euros. So that's you know, that's a lot. Yeah, it's $3,500 a month. There's $3,200, whatever the fuck the exchange rate is. It's a goddamn lot of fucking money. Why is he riding a bike, you cheap fuck cheap you idiot so uh this was a joint operation between british people and the amsterdam police the dutch swat team all that he faces extradition from holland uh so he can stand trial for a lease signer over here he ends up uh consenting to his extradition

and just get flying back to the uk over there. They probably threatened to stick a wooden clog up his ass and he pissed himself again. The the Amsterdam Dave Allen, who's head of the fugitives unit, said, quote, There's no such place as a safe haven for the fugitives on the run. Oh, my. It does not matter where in the world they flee to. Jesus Christ. Look at this. But a lot of Carmen San Diego.

where in the world they flee to jesus christ look at this carmen san diego we have the expertise to track them down and bring them to the uk to face justice damn it uh so yeah he had been gone a while though it's been a couple years since he's been gone three years uh 2013 in august pancake is in court uh pancake court here uh he's being held on remand. They're not letting him go. He wore a long-sleeved gray sweatshirt with his hair slick, they said, quote, with his receding hair slick to the side as he looked tired and drawn. The insults. Yeah, the insults. See, this is what I'm saying.

They'll make my penis look disgusting. Oh, it's going to sound terrible. Wearing a long-sleeved gray sweatshirt with his receding hair slick to the side. He looked tired and drawn as he pleaded guilty to wounding with intent to do grievous bodily harm and possession of an offensive weapon, namely a steering lock. So, yeah. So that's his plea there.

He pleads. Now, September of 2013, Lee's got some troubles of his own besides Pancake. Lee apparently is a terrible driver and has a lot of driving offenses racked up on his license. So there was a guy named David Kelly who he worked for the government. He ran a scheme where drivers who are about to lose their license for too many points racked up on their license. He'd get them to pay about 100 pounds each for each point they wanted erased from their records. So he would knock points off your license for $100 a point. Brilliant.

He was paid tens of thousands of pounds over the six years he was working at the Liverpool magistrate's court using members of the, quote, local criminal underworld to approach drivers and pubs and help to avoid them losing their license. That's brilliant. That's fucking. If you work in any sort of that, you're a fucking, you're a hero if you're doing shit like that. But he recruited them.

Now, in America, the gangsters would go find this fucking guy and be like, listen, motherfucker, you're going to erase points on licenses. We're going to give you a dollar and we're going to take 99 and you're going to be fucking happy and shut the fuck up about it. I know a girl that worked here at the DMV in Arizona that got fired for it,

but she would go in for 50 bucks. She would go into the DMV to her normal shift, and she would get into your license. She would change your birth date and print out a new one, then go back in, and then change it so that it's the real one, and then you'd have a fake ID.

And it's a real fucking ID with a different date on it getting you into bars for free. That's a well i mean for real no yeah that's amazing right that's amazing that's a scam yeah you're gonna make a lot scam and she made a shitload and i bet you like homeland security was on upper ass on that too you can't give out fake identification not like that no yeah that's gonna get you got fired and arrested obviously yeah i bet the federal government got involved in that as a matter of fact that's that's not a great thing big deal this but it's a great gift it is a great gift it's not bad this scam here apparently this was from what they say is an open secret this was like known by everyone that was the guy david kelly if you want in your license was fucked up you go see

that guy you got a few hundred bucks you can get your shit taken care of. Like the bars and pubs. That was like the thing. 19 of the customers of this scheme have pleaded guilty or indicated they would plead guilty. They had a gangster named Stephen French, who they called a reformed gangster. And also, of course, Lee. Lee is involved in this also. This is so great, too. They talk about uh david kelly here uh the judge says about him quote you perverted justice systematically and cunningly that's fucking amazing perverted

justice he took points off he didn't fuck a kid they act that's uh you perverted justice systematically and cunningly it sounds like literally he was adopting little boys to rape and bury in his basement like that's what it sounds like. Not you took some points off of people's licenses. What the fuck? They're very, very dramatic over there. But all the shit is very literary. Everything is, man.

So, yeah, he said he had to pay off. Kelly tried to say that he paid. He had to pay off long term debts by say that he had to pay off long-term debts by doing this. That's why he did it. Three of the customers were sentenced to conspiracy and fraud before Kelly was even jailed. A guy named Mark Camillo was jailed for 14 months. That's a gangster name. Yeah.

Samantha Evans got 12 months. And Sean Robinson got 12 months also here. And as Sean Robinson got 12 months also here, Siner gets 66 weeks in jail out of this for having wiped. Yeah, it's a little over a year. It's a year and like three months. It's a while. It's a while. So it's enough.

It's like 15 months. That's plenty. It's the most of anybody else that anybody else got, which is saying something. He was in deep. He had a criminal record, too, is the other thing. I don't know if other other people had as deep a record and this guy is just known as a complete dipshit got it uh yeah so december 13 is the sentencing for pancake now the judge does not like pancake as you might imagine he's pissed off at pancake the prosecutor chris hopkins also not a fan of pancake he's more of a waffle guy he said quote in the crown submission this was a revenge attack of some sort.

It was no petty disagreement. It was a carefully planned and executed criminal act. Like we said before, he said those involved showed a shocking disregard for the members of the public, unfortunate enough to witness it. That's awesome. Pancake's lawyer asked for a pre-sentence report to be drawn up. But the judge said, quote, I can't see the point. The Court of Appeal has set the standard terms of sentence. So he's like, your fucking client's getting.

He's going. He's going. Just like his friend went. He's going to get the same goddamn thing. So his lawyer, Pancakes lawyer, said that Pancake had fully cooperated with police since his capture, but he did say that Pancake was perplexed as to why the police never investigated Siner for the initial prison brawl. They're like, well, he hit me first.

Well, he didn't attack you with two other guys in machetes while you were eating dinner. It doesn't matter what else happened. It doesn't matter. Yeah. He said that Pancake had lived a nomadic life looking over his shoulder left, right, and center since he fled the country and that he knew he would have to face the music. Eventually, his lawyer says that he accepts that he has done wrong. He apologizes to this court.

He apologizes to those few people who are in the restaurant and he will accept his fate. He didn't say to the people he had to make sure to say to those few people. Just like there wasn't that many. So let's not. He had to throw that the people. He had to make sure to say to those few people. Just like there wasn't that many. So let's not. He had to throw that in there. Yeah. But he said to Taylor, the judge said, quote, you are a man of mature years and you will understand there is going to be a significant sentence of imprisonment.

The question is, how long is the sentence? Now he's fucking with him. This is good shit. He said he sustained suspense. And yeah, he said he sustained very serious injuries, very significant wounds. One wound was described by a police officer of such a size that he was able to fit in his fist, his entire hand in it. He needed surgery at the hospital for the wounds to be repaired. It's also clear from the closed-circuit TV film that innocent bystanders, customers and members of the staff were terrified

by what was taking place. Individuals fled to the back of the restaurant and others tried to get out of the premises. This was a revenge attack that arose as a result of an underworld vendetta. Two guys got in a fist fight. One of them's name is fucking pancake that rides a bicycle. Calm down.

Quote, in those circumstances there can be absolutely no justification justification for what uh at all for what you did there was clearly an incident at garth prison uh involving you and lee signer you have suggested that mr signer assaulted you and the prosecution say that uh this is probably the reason this terrible attack occurred you suggest in your letter that following the incident there was was further trouble with Mr. Siner. But the fact that the fact of the matter remains that it was you who decided to execute this attack. It was you who planned it. It was you who recruited to the others to assist you, sir.

May fuck off nine and a half years. Wow. So he gets nine and a half. That is fucking steep. Not bad. Not bad. Yeah. Pancake gets nine and a half years.

And then he says he says the court has got to make it clear that revenge attacks such as this due to an underworld vendetta simply will not be tolerated in this courtroom. They're not taking it. He's not taking this shit. Yes, they said that they worked tirelessly to track down Pancake, and they couldn't fucking find him. And they reiterate that you don't run from us, motherfuckers, because we'll track your ass down. Until you piss your pants. Yes.

They also said, the judge also said, quote, this is great. I also hope that the sentence brings some sort of form of closure for the victim, the restaurant staff, and the owners and members of the public who were there the night of the offense. This may have been a very distressing experience for them, and hope they feel some sense of justice now that taylor's been jailed what do you think signer feels justice that pancakes put away i don't think so the magistrate left the courtroom to d snyder and twisted sisters we're not going to take it that's it that's what we're gonna take it so uh so yeah it's uh oh by the way richardson had his sentence knocked from

eight years and four months to eight years on appeal. Oh, he got four months knocked off. Three months. Four months for free. It probably took him six months to get four months knocked off on appeal. Now, this article is very interesting, not just because of Pancake and Pancake's trial and, you know, just the trials and tribulations of Pancake in general. But this article has one comment on it. This is in a U.K UK publication, by the way.

Not American. It has one comment on it. Just one. Just one. And it is, and I quote, My name is Stevie Glasspool. He puts his name in. It's a woman.

Oh, okay. I am writing to request to have the slanderous article written about me in 2013 removed and taken down from the Internet. If needed, I can provide you with a certified disposition clearing my name. Please remove the article before other actions are pursued. I would be more than happy to provide you with the documentation. Thanks, Stevie Glasspool. Right, Stevie.

So who the fuck? Obviously, I'm reading this and i'm like rabbit hole who the fuck is stevie glasspool and what slanderous article have they written about this poor person so i google search stevie glasspool and what do i find probably not a very sympathetic person i find it's a quote south florida teacher who was arrested after allegedly soliciting sex from at least four students online stevie you are horny as fuck. A 31-year-old who taught English at Mavericks Charter School before she was arrested. Students ranging from 15 to 17.

Her affairs were revealed when one of the targets showed the inappropriate messages that they got to another teacher, and she got fired to a teacher. She then got hired by another school and worked the first four days of her new school before then coming, having the police come in and arrest her for what she did at her last school. Wow. She sent messages to these people over a two month period. They also police believe there's many more victims who have not come forward yet. One of the victims, a 17 year old named Chris O'Neill, she sent messages to him on Facebook.

He said they started off innocent, but progressed into something sexual quickly. She sent him messages saying, Jimmy, put it away, Jimmy. Let's go. She said things like, quote, you should spend the night. You will be graded on your performance. This is the teacher. Yeah. And even even promising marijuana to Laura in there.

If I was 16 and someone was like, you should come over and I'll give you weed and you should have sex with me. I'd be like, this is the greatest thing ever. And I'm going to get a better grade. This is fucking great. And I'm going to pass. Holy shit. This is amazing.

Somebody pinch me. She then said, quote, I don't want to fall in love. I don't want you to fall in love with me. All right. But I also don't want you to hit it and quit it either, she said. She's even got high school terms down. This is great. He said that she seemed to get irrationally annoyed when he wouldn't immediately respond to her messages.

Well, that's just a woman, sir. He said, quote, it would be, quote, hi, hey, hi, hi, why aren't you answering me? Are you mad at me? What did I say? It was just pathetic. This is a 17-year-old kid saying this about a grown woman. It was just pathetic. He said he liked the attention at first, but then when he found out that she propositioned

another 15-year-old, he said that he knew quite, quote, something's, quote, not right in her head. His father, Frank O'Neill, was equally shocked after he got done high-fiving his son. He said, quote, it just disgusted me. It made me so sick. Yes, son, down low. Out of camera range. There you go. It made me so sick.

Around the back. Down low. That's it. Back to the side. Secret handshake. After it took him out for ice cream. It made me so sick to my stomach. Who can you trust?

Because I always put teachers up there with policemen, firefighters, you know, role models. The student turned her in, and now she's being charged with soliciting a child for unlawful sexual conduct. O'Neill, the child, said he doesn't feel bad about reporting the teacher. He said, quote, this lady is just a whack job. Whatever happens to her happens to her, and I have no remorse for anything. Yeah, the other, they did a background check and all this. He's just mad he got cheated on. That's all it was.

He was jealous. He's just pissed. He's like, oh, shit, she's fucking other kids. She's fucking a dude younger than me? That guy? Fuck that. She's fucking a freshman a dude younger that guy fuck that she's fucking a freshman this is bullshit i love how the uh the uh uh principal tried to sort of defend it

uh they said uh quote her background check would show nothing as far as her being fired from any different schools and she has no arrest history of course so it wouldn't uh so it wouldn't pick that up right it's not our fault not our. Now that she's been arrested, it will. So now it's fine. So October 22nd, 2014, Lee is out of jail finally for his point shaving. But that's the difference between our point shaving is a big gambling scheme where people are making millions of dollars. Yeah. Yeah.

Your point shaving is $100 a point on your driver's license. Jesus. Nice organized crime. October 22nd shaving is $100 a point on your driver's license. Jesus, nice organized crime. October 22nd. For $100. For $100. God damn, sorry, that's shit. $100 per point, which I guess if you're a shitty enough driver, that'll add up. That's a lot.

That'll add up. October 22nd, 2014. Lee is out. He is out with his girlfriend, who's his long-term girlfriend, and his 18-month-old baby. They're out together. This man has a child, which is frightening. Yeah. He was sitting.

He was outside of the car while his girlfriend and his child were in the car in a quiet cul-de-sac in Maberly View. Nice neighborhood. They're sitting there. So out of nowhere, Lee is chased down the street by people with shotguns and shot three times in the back. Oh, my God. By shotguns while in front of his girlfriend and child. For what uh for who the fuck knows we have no idea yeah he was shot he was shot they're saying like you know 10 yards

from the car too like they just chased him down he turned around started running they shot him down with shotguns okay three shots in the back uh his girlfriend called police from inside the car with the baby in the back seat which is fucking. This is about 8 o'clock. This happens here. They find a black Nissan car burnt out nearby on Old Mill Lane that's believed to be related to the shooting, which is what they would do. Go burn the goddamn thing. Somebody saw heat. Yeah. Residents told the police they heard three bangs like fireworks ring out in the cul-de-sac. One neighbor said, we've lived here for seven years and nothing like this has ever happened you think uh you never think bangs would be gunshots it's a nice area

so that's what's weird like he's not hanging out in like a shady area or anything like that well before he was at a decent restaurant and he got attacked with a machete so anything's possible with this fucking guy don't go out with this guy at least he'll figure out how to bring trouble anywhere it'll find him another resident said quote quote, I came back from work last night and there were police everywhere. I'm just glad the little baby is all right. Well, no shit. There's shotgun fucking shells flying around. Police were exploring a number of theories, but the detectives believed it was a targeted attack.

You don't just pick a random guy out of nowhere and chase him down the street and blast him three times with a shotgun in the back in a nice neighborhood. Usually that's not normal. Sounds pretty targeted. Police talk about, of course, his former problems with other underworld figures. And they also said that they were waiting to speak with Lee to find out the maybe a little more about the motive and if he knows what's going on. They said, quote, we haven't been able to speak to him to get a description of the attacker and probably won't be able to do so for a few days he lived he lived oh my god his injuries aren't life-threatening we're currently speaking to his partner and the residents we believe it was a targeted attack but

at the moment we just don't know what it's all about i do lee is the luckiest son of a bitch on earth stabbed hacked shot three times with a shotgun in the back in the streets, which is crazy. Beaten with the club. Yeah. A source said, quote, there's been some trouble for some time now between Siner and a couple of Liverpool's major players. Yeah, no shit. The police stepped up patrols in the area and did house-to-house inquiries to figure it out. The shotgun has never been recovered.

They found the car, but not the shotgun. it out uh the shotgun uh has never been recovered never they found the car but not the shotgun october 23rd uh 2014 he's still too ill to be interviewed by police in the hospital you know because he's been shot multiple times in the back uh yeah uh so he's there uh this is the best they're talking they're trying to figure out what happened and he won't talk because he's saying he's too sick so they're talking to other people they They talk to a Liverpool, kind of a street guy who knows shit. And this guy has a great fucking line. He says, quote, this wasn't a warning shot. They've shot at his back.

If they wanted to issue a warning, the gunman would have gone for his legs. Well, then, isn't that nice? Is that where it is? Is that the code? Oh, it must be a warning. My kneecaps have just been shot it's no big deal it's just a warning no problem no no it's just a scratch that's the other thing in america warning shots go in the air yeah there's in the knees yeah they've shot at his back that's my

favorite line that wasn't a warning shot they shot at his back well no shit that's where fucking organs are that's a bad thing uh so yeah they need a few more days before they uh get to talk to him uh they don't think they don't know when they're going to be able to talk to him uh but they do say that even even before this happened after pancake went to prison they still were trying to get him to leave the city and then they even offered him protection like we'll help you leave the city or protect you and he said nah fuck off don't care i'll just get shot in the back again uh whatever so he's shot in the back uh obviously uh you know they're they're thinking it's probably linked to that uh yeah so february 2015 uh he's finally being released from the

hospital so he's in for that long uh he still is a long way from full health he's finally being released from the hospital so he's in for that long he still is a long way from full health he's recovering receiving ongoing rehab care in the in an outpatient deal finally makes a statement says he doesn't know who did it just says what happened basically I ran away and that was it so finally he recovers in 2015 spends 2015 getting medically fit and everything like that. He's got a girlfriend. He's got a young child. I mean, almost two-year-old child. So, I mean, it's time to chill the fuck out at this point, right?

Change your lifestyle. I think you better be good now, right? So 2016, he flags down police. He's out on the sidewalk. He's out on the sidewalk. Police are driving by. No interest in him. He's just out on the sidewalk yeah he's on the sidewalk police are driving by yeah no interest in him he's just out on the sidewalk no one no one called the cops on him nothing like that he flags down the police waves at him they pull over thinking there's some kind of problem they say what's the

problem he says i've been on a bender that's his that's that's lee's line to the police they're like he's police because he's been on a bender. They're like, all right, I've been on a bender. Then they say he was slurring his words, grinding his teeth, and sweating profusely when they talked to him. He's on a lot of coke. So without being, they're just talking to him, just like, you all right, buddy? And he's like, I've been on a bender. Out of nowhere, just after 30 seconds, he just pulls out a bag of white powder and hands it to them and

says here's cocaine they just take it from they're like okay they were just driving by they had no interest in him and he stops them to say i have drugs on me here take it so they were like okay where'd you get it and he just said he bought it off some lad for 50 bucks which is very polite some lad i never called a coke dealer or any other dealer some lad here he said he bought it off some lad for 50 dollars uh so they arrest him yeah like fucking yeah which is hilarious they should have just like dumped it out on the ground and been like dude don't stop fucking with us please where do you live where do you live dude you're a mess you're you're clearly not in your right state of mind you just stopped us and handed us cocaine you're a father you're you have you have children let me see your wallet is there

let me see your phone are there pictures of kids in there fuck god damn it it better be yours so uh the the prosecutors told the court officers on mobile patrol were traveling down holt road when they were flagged down by lee signer who wanted to report an incident that happened nearby he was heavily intoxicated and slurring his speech and his clothes were disheveled he was grinding road when they were flagged down by Lee Siner, who wanted to report an incident that happened nearby. He was heavily intoxicated and slurring his speech and his clothes were disheveled. He was grinding his teeth and officers noticed fresh cuts on his hands and knuckles. He's still he's still over 30 with children. He's got a child.

Quote, the defendant remained with the vehicle while other officers went to check what happened. He said he'd been on a bender for a few days, taking and drinking whiskey so he's had a quite the weekend i feel like fun uh yeah right that's not bad they said he looked disheveled and had been on a two-day cocaine and whiskey uh whiskey bender which is fucking awesome they said that uh his taylor said his taylor ian taylor his lawyer uh said that uh that he told the court that uh that that he had signed or referred himself for drug and alcohol counseling and wants to, quote, fully cooperate with the police. I would say that's the most cooperative anyone could be, to flag you down and tell you that you have drugs on you. You can't do a cop's job more for him than that. You don't even have to find it. I'm going to cooperate with them.

I've given them my drugs and now i'm gonna do the paperwork yeah we'll do that i went and took my own picture and gave them my own fingerprints and now i'm gonna that's what's gonna happen i'm gonna do the paperwork and i'm gonna tell myself to fuck off fuck i'm gonna go fuck off now how's that so uh he says that uh the lawyer also says i hesitate to say this is great because in this country we don't if there's ever an opening we don't hesitate to say we're like hey motherfucker you're an idiot and this is why i'm gonna drive a truck through your bullshit he says i hesitate to say that if he had never flagged down the the officers he would never

have come to the attention of the police in other words he really kind of did this to himself it's not like they had to go find him here they'd be like look number one my client went to them okay they didn't fucking come to him they're like i hesitate i hesitate to be impolite for one moment here i'm not hesitating on shit listen he gave you everything that you have don't yeah don't throw the book at him but he only he's fined 100 pounds when he appears in court so that's not bad that's all he gets 100 pounds uh city magistrates also uh ordered him to pay uh 85 85 pounds prosecution costs and 20 uh 20 victim surcharge after he admitted possession of a class a drug so he he's $205 in the hole. Yeah. And then the $50.

And then the $50. It's fucked up, man. He's like, he's fucking confused. The fucked up part about him is like all of this. You would think this guy would go home. Yeah. And never come out of his house at this point. And hole up with his girlfriend and his baby.

And never fucking leave. Nope. Out on the streets fucking immediately. Bloody knuckled. just fucking walking around. The weird part is, too, like, he's from this area, but he walks into a neighborhood he's not familiar with. It's very odd. And there's a different kind of gangster there, and he runs into a different kind of guy. He runs into Estevez Jones, MMA fighter and 70, blaxploitation film villain.

Jesus, that's hard to say. And he says... Motherfucker, how is it you come to arrive here? Man, what the fuck is wrong with you crack-ass English... You don't even talk right. T-swilling motherfuckers. T-swilling ass bitches. Man even talk right. Peace willing motherfuckers. Peace willing ass bitches. Man, I'm looking at you motherfuckers.

You scared of a motherfucker named Pancake? He an English dude on a bike named Pancake? You ever been to Detroit, motherfucker, for one minute? You wouldn't survive one motherfucking second in Detroit. First of all, they'd have shot your ass and killed you. They'd have shoot you three times, number one. Number two, you got a girl in your car. I see that with that baby. She could be making you some money what the fuck you doing there you getting

shot you slacking off you a bitch is all i'm gonna say right now that's all i'm gonna say you're a bitch ass motherfucker cracker english tea swilling pancake bitch that's what i'm gonna say right now poof and in a cloud of of feather and leopard print he's's gone. And Lee is excessively confused. Really, really confused. He said that guy, he was more scared of him than Pancake. He was very much more frightening. But yeah, he's a foof man.

He's a police for protection. I don't want to go there. He said, I don't want protection from Pancake. I want protection from Estevez Jones. He's very frightening. I am very scared of him. So April of 2017 this is fucking uh completely ridiculous here april 2017 uh he's you know 32 years old yeah

he should be mature yeah like i said should be in the house he's a grown-up now he's a fucking girl well he's not really a grown-up is a very loose term for this guy he's in the adult body with the mind of a four-year-old with brain damage uh he's 32 uh he's in liverpool hanging out uh he's at a pub just chilling uh you know not not doing anything uh you would imagine you know just just hanging uh a man walks by him uh asks him directions to which way is the toilet. And Lee unmercifully beats him for no reason. No fucking reason whatsoever. Beats the living shit out of him in the middle of a pub for literally saying, is that the way to the toilet?

And he just pummels him. He repeatedly punched and stamped on this guy, a Richard Busted, in what was called by police in a, quote, drunken cocaine-fueled frenzy. My goodness. So that's interesting. This guy, the 29-year-old Boustead, the victim, he'd visited Merseyside to discuss a theory with a physics professor at Liverpool University.

He's a smart person. Yeah, he was there to discuss a theory. Siner didn't say a word. He just pummeled him with force that the victim describes as like a sledgehammer, as we'll find out. The victim said, quote, I was pleading with the male to stop,

and I said I was sorry if I had somehow offended him and I would leave, but he simply wouldn't listen. He said nothing to me. He just continued to punch me. I've never been so terrified in my life i was trying to crawl away but the mail kept kicking and stamping on me i don't think he was going to i didn't think he was going to let me go uh wow uh he then heard the barmaid yell get off of him lee get off of him he's done nothing wrong to you but i was attacked again and again as he fled. So what? Amazing. He then said, quote, While the mail was punching me, I felt like I was being hit by a sledgehammer. I'm not I'm not considering visiting the area of Liverpool again. Never again. They scared him away from the entire city of Liverpool. of liverpool hates the beatles now fucking hates them a lot jesus christ so the uh police uh catch up to him a couple hours later and they said he was still really high yeah he's just fucking jacked up on coke and fucking whiskey which is his combo that he that he likes uh the victim here

suffered a black eye a large wound above his eye uh had stitches from uh from there he had a previous injury on his hand. He cut himself in a workshop or something. He had the stitches ripped open from that. Just basically got completely fucked up when the police found him. His face, hands and clothes were covered in blood. So he was just beat up here. Bad.

The signer made no comment about the thing when they arrested him. They said he he admitted assault causing actual bodily harm. They were like, what'd you do? And he was like, no, I fucked that guy up. He was just too high to fucking say anything else about it here. They said after that, though, he was very, very high. And his lawyer after

that, Lionel Gregg, said that he was very remorseful and he spent his last two days in the hospital. I'm sure the guy you beat up spent two days in the hospital too, as a result of consuming too much alcohol and cocaine. He said he needed a detox. Exactly what I was eating the fuck out of somebody. He said, quote, recollecting what he had done. He was horrified by his behavior and the impact it caused to the complainant.

His lawyer acknowledged that he had problems with alcohol and cocaine, but he said he's been doing well lately. They heard about basically the professor and the physics guy here decided to go for a drink at this place. It was the Durning Arms Pub. Sounds very British. There, yeah, and he just had to go to the bathroom and was like, is that the way to the toilet?

Please stop hitting me. I'm sorry if I've offended you. I'll leave. Like, how polite can you be? I will leave. He said, I offered to leave. Please just stop pummeling me. If you stop pounding on me, I will walk out the door.

Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. So they didn't know what even, like, that was it. He said he asked the way to the toilet. The weird thing is the guy went to the toilet, and then when he came back, the guy beat the shit out of him. Like he waited for him to piss first, which I find odd. The judge said that he the judge, David Aubrey, he said he didn't know whether whether Lee attacked this guy because of his accent or the fact that he wasn't a regular or just because he didn't like the looks of him. regular or just because he didn't like the looks of him uh and then uh he says any theory he has been the judge says any theory he had been discussing that day with a professor he was

now to experience reality and the ugly side of life with that respect uh all he did was simply ask you where the pub toilet is when he returned you launched into him and he was at your mercy fortunately for him the injuries were not as serious as they might have been. It's unlikely that he will ever wish to return to Liverpool. Liverpool prides itself on greeting visitors and receiving visitors from elsewhere. It's people like you who will deter visitors from coming to this wonderful city. You, sir, may fuck off. How much? 20 months in jail.

That's not great. It's not great, but it's not bad also. He's going to be out and free to go beat the shit out of somebody else. 20 months. He'll do not great it's not great but it's not bad also he's out he's gonna be out and free to go beat 20 months yeah he'll do 10 months and he'll be gone i mean jesus christ that's just a fucking out of nowhere yeah just attack a man for asking for the toilet hey theory man you got any theories of why this guy beat the piss out of you any theories about why when i stomp you with my foot it actually is that? Is there gravity involved in that? Why it hurts you so bad? Can you tell me that?

What exactly the fucking deal with that is? Fucking smart theory guy. Jesus Christ. This poor guy, this fucking poor, what about his poor girlfriend? She chose to have kids with this goddamn guy. That's a bad choice. She's like, oh, Jesus, again, Lee?

For fuck's sake. Again with the stomping? Stop. At least stay out if you're going to be gacked out of your mind for two days. Stay out of the house. You did that right. Stop getting arrested and fighting gangsters and getting shot in the streets and all that. I feel bad for this boosted.

I feel bad for the people of the city of Liverpool. I feel bad for all these people, Timmy, but not nearly, not nearly as bad as I feel for Lee Siner, who seems to be a professional gamer who plays League of Legends. I don't know. He has a 45%, whatever the fuck that means. Sounds great. And it says on his ladder rank, he is 1,126,633, 79% of the top. That's 79%? That's 79% of the top. Oh, he's of the top. That's 79%? That's 79% of the top.

Oh, he's in the top 79%. Top 79%. There's only 20% that are worse than him at that game. That are worse than him out of millions of people. 79% is of what? So yeah, over like a million and a half people. He's like not great. I feel bad for him, but not nearly as bad.

That guy's fine. I feel worse, worse for a man, and I swear to Christ, Taylor Pancake. What? Taylor Pancake. Not Pancake, Taylor Pancake is a lawyer. Oh, my God. He's the dorkiest looking son of a bitch, too.

He sure is. Taylor C. Pancake. Is his middle name Ham? C, I don't know. Taylor C. Pancake is a partner and business lawyer with foley and lardner llp he has experience in a wise wide variety of corporate law matters including corporate formation corporate operations and governance finance and other contract drafting mr pancake is chair of the firm's orlando corporate law department swear to God, this is what it says. Quote, Mr. Pancake also has experience representing clients in the senior living industry where

he has experience in mergers and acquisitions. Mr. Pancake is the co-chair of the firm's senior living industry team. Mr. Pancake is a member of the firm's transactional and security practice, as well as a member of the healthcare's transactional and security practice, as well as a member of the healthcare industry team. Mr. Pancake is also the chair of the firm's Veterans Affinity Group. Mr. Pancake needs to change his last name. Hey, Mr. Pancake. He's a picture of Pancake like Justin Timberlake on fucking SNL sketch like Mr. Pancake.

Pancake with hands. Yeah, with big stupid Mickey Mouse hands. Smile in the center. He's a former U.S. Marine Corps reservist. Quote, Mr. Pancake also served in Iraq and Kuwait in 2003 in support of Iraqi Operation Iraq. I hope he is a fucking. Mr. Pancake.

I hope he's a sniper. Private Pancake. Get over here, Private Pan private pancake let me tell you something private pancake this poor man was fucking private pancake can you imagine the guy that berates him forever fucking taylor pancake and if you look up pancake taylor which a lot of people do it's like first page is so anybody who searches if you search taylor pancake it will come up pancake taylor so you're like that's my lawyer what a fucking scumbag amazing uh holy shit so that's that's the crazy ass lee signer story that's insane it's wild uh this one's a little

shorter than we normally do because you know what we don't need to do three hours on lee signer because you don't know who the fuck he is that's all the information that's available well you got two and a half and it's a crazy story and you're still gonna get two hours and change out of it so that's not long enough i don't know what the fuck to tell you but not all the stories have three hours worth of have a short stack and a smile that's all have a short stack and a smile like we said too we were testing out the studio here on these first couple. Don't worry, it'll be somebody famous again next week. We're getting there. Whatever.

We'll get there. But that's Lee Siner, Liverpool, England, the great Pancake Conspiracy, Pancake Taylor, Hot Cakes McGee, the whole crew, Flapjacks McGillicuddy,

everybody's involved. Flapjacks McGillicuddy is going to end up being a goddamn character. One of these guys. Flapjacks or Pancake Taylordy is going to end up being a goddamn character. One of these guys. Flapjacks or Pancake Taylor. It might just be Pancake Taylor. It might just be fucking Taylor Pancake.

With the pissy pants. That's all there is to it. Oh, no, I pissed my pants. Oh, man. Oh, damn. Damn, I pissed my pants. Southern Mickey Mouse. That's what I'm doing.

Oh, no, Southern Mickey. I pissed my pants. I'm Pancake Taylor. Oh, doing. Oh, no. Southern Mickey. I piss my pants. I'm Pancake Taylor. Oh, no. Oh, my. Oh, darn it. How is it you've come to arrive here? What's wrong with you?

Is that piss in your pants? How's it I've come to arrive here? I got piss on my pants. Oh, no. So that's this insane case. If you like this, please, please go to itunes give us five stars it is uh just pertinent that you do that it really really helps us a lot on the business end if you want to be a bigger hero than that like this fine list of producers that we cannot live without you can do

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dot com tour dates coming out end of the month. You bet. Keep an eye out for that. But never mind all that shit because none of that matters. We're coming to you.'re pretty much coming we're going to like 18 places or something so there's a lot and a couple places you maybe wouldn't expect right that i was like we're going there all right whatever let's go that's cool so uh we're doing that it's going to be a lot of fun but besides all that let's do the important thing jimmy why don't you hit us with the list of our most favorite wonderful fantastic people on earth j't you hit us with the list of our most favorite, wonderful, fantastic people on Earth.

Jimmy, hit me with that list. Executive producers this week are Todd Griffith, Jillian Anderson, Chris Voss, Chrissy Ann Costaldi. Every goddamn week. Every week. We love her. Thank you, Chrissy. You're fucking incredible. And Ewa Tarowska, who I can't say her last name.

She's cool, too. She lived in New York and she fucking had to go. They made her leave. Her visa expired. Oh, no. They made her get the get the fuck where'd she have to go back to england i think no that's not that bad i thought she was gonna say somewhere horrible go to fucking the middle of syria i'm gonna do some war torn horse shit play congo she's doing okay that's rough i follow her on instagram she's doing great so thank you guys very, very much. Thank you so much. Hannah Radcliffe-Hoy, Katie Ives, Sherry DeMarchant. Yes.

Yes. DeMurchant. Ah. Not Marchant. Whatever. That's fine. Thank you. Melissa Pritchard, Katrina Bell, Craig McGeechan, Brick Whithouse.

Brick Whithouse. They tried to be clever. Yeah. Brick Whithouse Comedy Podcast. They donated twice on Patreon and then also on... Well, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

And we'll tell you you are clever because you paid us twice. Thank you. Good job. Fresh picked. I'm not sure what that is. Google it. Hopefully, you get the right one because I'm sure there's a shitload of them. Probably.

Under the Sea Fabrics. Thank you so much. GraphicStrategist.com. Ashley Boxler. Edward Gao or Go. Amanda Burke. David Wallington. Fuck. Arta Cialava. All right. Not bad. edward gal or go uh amanda burke david wallington uh fuck arta arta c lava c lava

sounded good i'm sure it's way off but it sounded great jc uh jc fuck jc dagus dig daggies digas okay no i'm wrong just jc jimmy has refused for that to be a thing. Shannon Stoica, Craig Ventura. That's a cool fucking name. Craig Ventura? That does sound cool. That's right. Samuel Wetmore, Natural Sciences. Patrick Haggerty, Aaron Jarrell.

I'm going to bet $10,000 Craig Ventura's white, by the way. Yeah. I'll bet you're going to fucking get paid, too. Yeah. Craig, you've now made the bet. Yeah. You've now made the bet. I bet you're white. I don't have the bet yeah you've now made the bet i bet

you're white i don't have that money though so that's i'm betting theoretical money it's not real uh patrick hagerty aaron gerald uh mariah min here uh jason fuller jake labir all three of them by the way constantly yeah thank you guys so much and paul rouest i learned oh yeah oh rouest it is with his uh memes thanks dude his son said how come how come Jimmy doesn't know how to say our fucking name? It's because Jimmy's an idiot. It looks like Ruest, to be honest with you. R-U-E-S-T. That's Ruest.

That's Ruest in my book. Well, Ruest, fine. You know what? You donate, you're Ruest. We'll French it up for you. There you go. Eric Langenacker, Jane Richards, Heather Norton, Rachel Deal, Dylan Irish, Madeline Robinson, Kate Myers, Joseph Finn, Andrew Welmers, Sarah Stankovich.

Sorry about that one. That is brutal. Nathan Nolte, Andrew Ballard, Jesse Landeros, Jesse Hartman, Kelly Higbee, Gina or Gianna XL, Tyler Gwill, Stephanie Igoa. No, Sarah, nothanie it's definitely sarah sarah sarah fletcher phoebe ryan's den hendrix hendrickson uh zach cornell shandell whitney jennifer edwards alexis ellis uh spring data dynamo i think okay dynam dynamics dynamics that says dynamo dynamo i don't know what that is that's weird hey you know what they know what it is and that's the important part they know who you know who you

are maybe it's dynamob and dynamob there's a b there i think jude mcconkie uh emma banta ash with no last name uh nick peiffer uh sm ripper uh emily johnson tony martin diablo con queso that's awesome devil cheese devil cheese of the devil cheese of the devil i think that's what it is SM Ripper, Emily Johnson, Tony Martin, Diablo Conqueso. That's awesome. Devil Cheese. Devil Cheese. The Cheese of the Devil. Cheese of the Devil. I think that's what it is. Is that?

I hope that's somebody's real name. That's what I hope. Is that El Perro? Is that what you're singing to me? I don't know what I'm doing. Is that an American Dad reference by any chance? It might be. From the cartoon?

A Raging Chipmunk? Is that another one? I don't know. Sarah walks around the house singing that song all the time. Oh, really? Con queso? El Diablo. El Con queso.

I don't know. Con queso. El Diablo. Don't look at me. Go ahead. I'm not here all the time. Take Jonas Jesus. I'm not here all the time.

Sarah Wetmore. Rachel, with no last name. Julia Wheeling. Sarah Streeter. No, Sean Streeter. I don't know why because you said sarah dick glad of the name sean streeter she does live here brin chito brin chito 39 uh that's deontay brinson so i don't know why he made me say all that well you know what number it's all right

thanks deontay because he paid you to that's why thank you Thank you. Tim Love, Annette Strongs, Margaret Schwartz. And I bet you he is black. Or Spanish, if possible. Maybe. Probably black. He's black. He's as black as Craig Ventura is white. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is.

Dan Slesser, Valerie Guzman, Naima Shea, Andrew Batters, Brandon Warren, who has a podcast. I think it's the Midwest Swing. I think that's true. Okay. I think that's right. I don't know. It fuck midwest something well listen to it yeah well i was on it i feel like an asshole i'm sorry brandon uh cassandra schro uh ken with no last name uh brian lowry laurie laurie laurie like a Right. Like a taco season. Right. Andre Hashim, Lily Hill. That's easy. Lily Hill. That's easy.

Ashley Lewis, Donovan Dykes, Jeffrey Gowen, Kaylee Wittenstein. Yes. Yes. Yes. Fuck yeah. Jacqueline Osborne, Jeanne or Jean? Jeanna. What's how do you spell?

J-E-A-N-N-E. No. J-E-A-N-N-E. That's Jean. Is that Jean or is that Jeanne? I think it's Jean. Jeanne. That's how you spell? J-E-A-N-N-E. No. J-E-A-N-N-E. That's Jean. Is that Jean or is that Jean? I think it's Jean. That's how you spell it. If there was T's, it was like Jeanette.

Okay. So I don't know. It's Jean Bunn. It might be Jean Bunn. Jill Saff. Kenan Eisenbart. Alicia Farms. Ferris.

Yeah. Alicia Ferris. That's probably it. She'll be just making words up now. Pandora's Jar.'s jar uh austin pool rachel sutton shannon kimball um michelle carol greg avaril shannon no sharon it's sharon lacey that's definitely right uh theresa roderick christine palmer mary hendricks with an x oh hendrick i like it that's weird that's awesome that's fucking awful for me

paul barth shannon jones and kelsey muñoz thank you guys so so much for everything you do for us really do it without awesome and if you if your name began with a with an s today i apologize because we fucking destroyed it but thank you everybody sarah thank you guys so much amazing honestly that you guys like we said you built the studio uh you keep so much. You guys are amazing. Honestly. You guys, like we said, you built this studio. You keep us going. Your donations mean the world to us because we use them for things like food and electricity. So thank you guys

so much for that. And studio stuff. This was an investment that we wanted to make for you guys because we wanted A, to have top sound quality all the time, which our other place sounded great. It's a radio studio. But it a to have top sound quality all the time which our other place sounded great it's a radio studio but we wanted to have top quality and we wanted to not be at the mercy of other people for when we could record their schedules yeah so we could always get episodes out on time schedule we gotta do that's the other thing we have to be able to do it we

have to be able to if we need to go in there at midnight on a thursday because it's the only time we need to do we have to be able to have access and a Thursday, because it's the only time we need to do it, we have to be able to have access. And now we do. So it's fantastic. Thank you guys so much for that. What if one of these people wanted to tell you about their road schedule, Jimmy? How could they do that? You can find me at WisemanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N-S-U-C-K-S, on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat.

Thank you guys so much for everything. And I am at JimmyPIsFunny. You can find me there or just copy and paste my last name from the show description if you don't want to get too heroic about the whole thing. But besides all that, guys, this is the greatest thing that we get to say now because we say it all the time. It's for real. We've said it from the beginning, whether it was in an apartment or in somebody else's futon.

It doesn't matter. But now we get to say it for real live from the Crime and Sports Studios. We will see you next week. Bye. Hey, Prime members. You can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.