Crime in Sports - #125 - The Ghosts Made Him Do It? - The Mercurialness of Josh "The Fluke" Grispi

Episode Date: July 23, 2018

This week, we peel back the layers of a man who was incredibly promising, and even personable... until something caused him to change. Was it brain damage? Cocaine? The ghosts in his basement...? Shockingly, those are all possibilities, as this story grows stranger & stranger, before finally spinning out of control, and ensnaring everyone from the next door neighbor to the family dog. Strap in, because this is a wild ride!!Get kicked out of all your schools, keep pigs in your basement, and beware the spirit of the criminal athlete with Josh"The Fluke" Grispi!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanDonate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGet all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!Contact us on...twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 A first listen is waiting for you when you start your free trial at audible.ca. The Queen of the Courtroom is back. How did I know that? i have crystal ball in my head new cases leave her a long so uh this is not a so this is a period classic judy it's streaming you can say anything it's an all-new season judy justice only on freebie Hello and welcome to Crime and Sports. Yay! Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy, yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'm Jimmy Wismuth. Thank you folks so much for joining us again and again and again on another insanely, and this one especially, insane, crazy, wild, death-defying, gravity, just ignoring gravity and all the laws of physics, crime and sports episode. Thank you, folks, for being here again. It's always death defying. It's death defying every week. Sometimes it's not death. If they die, I won't say death defying. That's usually the way I do it because they didn't defy shit.
Starting point is 00:01:56 They defy it for a while. For a little while, but in the end. Like Michael Jordan. He defies gravity for a minute. For a second. And then eventually, yeah. Well, this is tonight we dip back into the brain damage sports, which are always fun. We're going into, it's an MMA fighter.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Wonderful. So that's always fun. As I always like to say, the UFC is like alcohol. It doesn't make assholes, but it certainly enhances them. You know what I'm saying? So we're going to dip into there. Not every asshole. It'll make them, but it's, man, you got a little bit of UFC in an asshole.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Boy, it's going to bring them out is all I'm going to say. Not every alcohol consumer is an asshole, but every asshole consumes alcohol. It's one of those things. So that's what I'm saying. That's hilarious. Before we get into that, thank you so much for your iTunes reviews this week. They're always huge.
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Starting point is 00:03:08 So you just say you're following directions, and that's as good as praise. Trust me. We're both divorced for fuck's sake. Yeah, we've been, life is shit on our heads for a while, and we're going to, right now it's okay, and we're trying, but your words can't fix the past. If words could fix this shit, we'd still be married. Oh, God damn. For the first time.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I'm still married this time, which is good. I don't think that's going to work out well, I think. Fingers crossed. Yeah, other one not good. That's because this time you're marrying without words. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're marrying for the salty words this time.
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Starting point is 00:04:51 terrifying venues. It's going to be crazy. Yeah, well, never mind. You'll see. Once you see it, you're going to go, good lord, guys. Do you really think highly of yourselves? No, we don't. We have nothing to do with booking anything. So this is based on other people's opinions somebody thinks highly of us and James and I look
Starting point is 00:05:08 at each other and go are they fucking kidding they're not serious right yeah so we'll figure all that out you're wearing fucking overalls is this guy wearing overalls in court I think he is I think he fucking is this we're talking about a guy today who mentally wears overalls in court in court babe physically
Starting point is 00:05:24 he's not wearing overalls he's he's a real kind of a pretty boy uh don't call him that though or he will punch you i'm sure before but uh yeah different kind of a thing here brain damage sports let's talk about him it's joshua richard grisby you know that is josh grisby he's a ufc fighter josh the fluke grisby is his nickname which that's that doesn't seem like a good nickname. He doesn't like himself either. Yeah, I don't. I feel like someone.
Starting point is 00:05:49 All this success is bullshit. They're going to find me out soon, so I'll just call myself the Fluke. Just tell them. They're going to all know anyway. Right out of the gate, I'll let them know. He's like a comic that's paranoid. I opened for this one comic very, very quickly one time. It was a very experienced, very good comic who very quickly one time it was a very very experienced
Starting point is 00:06:05 very good comic who crushes every time he goes out he's not amazingly famous but he's been around forever and absolutely destroys and he wouldn't come out like he was like hanging out in the green room bathroom going i can't do this before he could i was hosting it was like my second time hosting at the club i've been doing comedy like two years i'm like um i don't know what to do kevin hart i'm like i thought it definitely wasn't kevin hart but I'm like, I don't know what to do. Kevin Hart. Come on out. It'll be fine. Well, it definitely wasn't Kevin Hart. But I'm like, I think you have to.
Starting point is 00:06:28 That's what I said to him. I'm like, I think you have to. I think contractually you have to. I don't think I can do it. I think you're obligated. I don't think I'm going to go do shit for an hour. Your name's on the marquee, man. Nothing to do with me, anyway.
Starting point is 00:06:39 This guy here, born October 14th, 1988. So he's a young guy. Young dude. Yeah, very young guy Very young guy He's had a lot of life experience In such a short time He's barely 30 He's going to be very much disliked
Starting point is 00:06:53 We'll put it that way He's not even 30 But he's going to be This is going to be one of those episodes Where he's going to rank in the Buck Zoom Hoff But there's no child molestation Or anything like that But as far as hateability He's going to be up in that kind of echelon.
Starting point is 00:07:09 All right. Which is, it's impressive here. He's a Massachusetts guy. Yeah, of course he is. He's born in Boston. Yeah, of course he was. Yeah, it's funny too because, you know, we have a lot of friends in Massachusetts and all that.
Starting point is 00:07:19 But you have a certain type of meathead there who just loves to fight. How hilarious. I don't know what it is. I do know what it is because there's the same type of meathead there who just loves to fight. How hilarious. I don't know what it is. I do know what it is because there's the same type of meathead in New York, so I do know that guy. He's just more Irish in Boston. A little chubbier and drinks a little more beer. A little less sneaky.
Starting point is 00:07:36 That's what it is. Yeah, he does all his dirt right up front. That's the thing. Italians will plot behind your back, whereas the Irish are too drunk to plot. They're just like, let's go outside. Come on, Tommy. Let's the thing. Italians will plot the Avenger back, whereas the Irish are too drunk to plot. They're just like, let's go outside. Come on. Blast him in the face. Come on, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Let's go outside. We're going outside. I don't give a fuck, Tommy. It's funny how my opinion of people in Boston is very heavily weighted on my hate for Tom Brady. That's true. And the dude's not even from there. No, he's not from there. He went to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He has no... And Gronkowski won the U of A. And my only Boston experience is going there to perform, and everyone was wonderful. They were amazing. One of the best crowds we've ever been in front of. So they were all nice to us. So this is really just, we're just assholes is what it is. So let's continue to do that.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He grows up to be 5'11", 145 pounds. So that's his weight class. Kind of an exciting weight class in MMA fighting. Because if he wins, it's fucking amazing. Because he's little. Yeah, he's little. He's fighting guys his own size. It's not like back in the day. Some of these when we were talking about in the 90s,
Starting point is 00:08:36 these UFC fights. Stupid. MMA fights that were, yeah, guys 175 pounds. Completely unfair. Guys 350s fighting. That's a weird matchup. And the little guy only won like twice. It was fucking amazing when he won. It was. But when he didn't, you're like, yeah, that's how that should go.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, it wasn't like a skilled battle of skilled combatants. It was like a spectacle. Like, let's watch a lion fight a warthog and see what happens. Like, it was just a weird. And from time to time, that warthog grabs a whole lion's spleen and shit goes awry. He latches on onto his nutsack. We're going to have a problem. He could fucking pull one off.
Starting point is 00:09:07 You never know. One in a thousand, it happens. I assume, I'm just assuming, but I don't know anything about zoology or anything like that, but I assume that even the most vicious lion, if you really socked him in the nutsack, a good shot, I bet you he'd fucking chill out for a second and at least back off. Is that the shark snout thing? I think that's what it it is i honestly think so well that's i don't know if it's true but that's my approach if i'm ever attacked by a lion i'm going right after his ball bag because i assume he's going after mine so let's be fair i'll take that advice because
Starting point is 00:09:36 it's better than the shark how are you gonna punch underwater it's the robert robert shimmel joke like yeah you ever thrown a punch underwater it's very slow and the shark's a lot faster underwater that's the thing he flies in and you're like it's not gonna be a good and then you're gonna slowly connect against him and he's gonna eat your hand as it goes toward him he's gonna see it coming it's it's basically gonna look like a mother's taking a spoonful of food and to bring it in a baby's mouth going here it comes here comes the train comes the fist and he's gonna bite it latch on to it and drag you around like a fucking rag dog lose an arm perfect sounds great so uh grisby played a lot of hockey when he growed when he was
Starting point is 00:10:15 growing up uh uh he was kicked out of school a lot uh this is a this is a thing that we've come across with a bunch of these mma fighters They're hyperactive, not okay in school, because they have to keep moving and hit things and have physical activity. And they probably already have brain issues. That's the other thing, too, is between the hockey and the fighting, this guy here...
Starting point is 00:10:36 Oh, my God. It's hockey, too. The brain damage here at a young age, even, has got to be remarkable. When you hear some of his actions, you're like, okay, that is definitely not a sane person that that did that or at least a person who's not got it doesn't have a touch of the pudding brain yeah just a touch if we had a kid in my in my school that did the same shit always acted out in class yeah gloves boxer that's yeah it's sometimes it's
Starting point is 00:10:59 just because that's not the structure that they can thrive in they just they have too much energy or they have i I understand that. That's also, there's probably quite a few brain cells that are, and that are dark. Yeah. There's certain people you can't expect to fit into every environment. You know,
Starting point is 00:11:14 that's, that's what I don't get. Like you can't, you can't take people who are, that's what I don't get about like NFL players. Like they jack them all up and they're, they're supposed to, have you ever watched like the NFL training camp,
Starting point is 00:11:24 the hard knocks thing or anything like that? Watch what they'd have them in practice. They're and they're supposed to. Have you ever watched like the NFL training camp, the hard knocks thing or anything like that? Watch what they'd have them in practice. They have them drooling and fucking like animals. And now they're like, now go out there and be nice to your wives. And they just release them out into the streets. And then they're like, now we booked you on Jimmy Kimmel. Go have a conversation with Jimmy. Did you watch that this week?
Starting point is 00:11:40 It's insane. Antonio Brown tried to have a conversation with Jimmy Kimmel. I was blown away by the lack of ability to speak for that guy. In season, I have a proposal. In season, we keep NFL players in some sort of pressurized bubble. After the season, it's like if they went deep in the sea, they have to do a depressurization session for two weeks before they're released back into the public,
Starting point is 00:12:02 before they can act normal and not beat their children i think normal oxygen yeah i really feel like that and it's sad because a lot of the guys are very normal and can differentiate because they're intelligent people whose brains haven't been mashed into pudding yet but some of them are a kicker yeah but some of them it's like i'm sorry you got to take one for that guy because he's dangerous and we can't have that fucking guy coming straight out of practice going home and beating the piss out of his girlfriend and kicking the door down and Jesus Christ. It's like unleashing
Starting point is 00:12:29 a dude that's been in solitaire for 18 years right back into society. And I think for UFC and boxing they should just be put in a chamber from like 16 to about 42. 50 in a Vander Holyfield's case but either way and then they let him out when you're done
Starting point is 00:12:45 i just compared a fucking professional athlete to a criminal 18 year that's fair i mean we've how many we're on 100 episode 125 jimmy what are we talking about here what are we i mean come on yeah let's be honest there's been some bad shit that's happened i'm not far off i guess no it's honestly not i mean mean, fuck. We're going to defend these people, these athletes of all kinds and stripes and sports. I mean, and we're fair. We rip apart darts players for Christ's sake. We don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I don't care how much sweat you break when you play this sport. Yeah. Quote, unquote. And people will ask us, too, like, will you do this sport? Sure. Don't give a shit. Limited amount of criminal athletes we'll do whatever the fuck you can find a murdering cornhole player i'm in great
Starting point is 00:13:29 awesome we did darts that's all i have to say checkers beautiful is he really good is he good in the park is he playing like five games at a time bob fisher ever fucking rape a woman i'll cover it i'll cover the shit out of that let's about it. I'll talk about that to the end of time. To the end of time. So he was kicked out of a bunch of schools. He was even kicked out of apparently a band from a paintball facility. Oh, boy. How much can you be acting up in a paintball facility?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Shoot people in the face? You have to. Yeah. It's literally a facility where people pay money to be shot with paint. There's not a lot you can really do. Unless you freeze your paintballs the night before. Well, you never know. That's a true thing.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You could be shooting fucking marbles at people. Christ, I wouldn't put it past this asshole. But this was all before he was 13. He'd been in a bunch of schools, been kicked out, banned from the... He's the local cut-up. He's the kid that got, for Christ's sake, this fucking asshole again. 13 years old, he's not allowed to play paintball. No, no no he's not allowed in the facility just gone or many different schools he's the type of kid who was you know 13 was already in like vocational school and you're
Starting point is 00:14:32 like i don't think he knows whether he wants to weld or not yet i don't think he's figured that out he's 13 he still believes in the easter bunny and you're you're on a career path chosen for paul calhoun figuring out shit pipes. Let me tell you about some shit pipes, kid. Hey, let me tell you, this is a very important thing when you're changing out a shit pipe. Now, the guy's wife's inevitably going to come around. Give it the back of your hand.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You're going to have to smack his wife. That's in the theme song right there. So you don't smack it and everything's going to be wrong. Why do I need a paintbrush? What's the paintbrush about? I'll show you later, kid. Come on, kid. He puts his arm around him. You got a lot to learn and he takes him walk into the sunset opening scene
Starting point is 00:15:09 fucking andy griffin because you want to hold your hand open and firm that's what it is it's deranged backhand palm backhand see how it goes keep it straight but you got to understand people try to move around so you got to be you got to be flexible sometimes you got to understand, people try to move around, so you got to be flexible. Sometimes you got to elevate that hand. That's what I'm talking about right there. So finally, when he's 13 years old, his dad doesn't know what else to do with him. This is kind of funny because this is how my son is sometimes where I'm like, he needs something to get his fucking energy out. Something.
Starting point is 00:15:38 He needs, I don't know what to do with him. We're talking about possibly, who the hell knows. Track and field. Run that way. Go. See that way. Go. See that? We're going to cross country like Travolta in Greece. Long distance running.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Just go that way and come back soon. I got a friend. My kids didn't swim and one of the dads told me that his 13-year-old ran 15 fucking miles this morning. That's insanity. What the fuck do you do with that kid to get him to run that? That's insanity. 15 miles. He had to build up to that. He didn't just say we're going to start running today, kid, and he put him out for 15 miles. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:16:14 We start out at 15 and then we're going to go to a full marathon by next Monday. Calm down. It's not even a marathon. You'll be alright. Let's go. It's more than a half marathon. But still. It's a fucking lot of miles. It is. i drove 15 to get to your house and i was like yeah you're like jesus christ if you go through lights if you ran this we this would never be recorded it'd be out next week
Starting point is 00:16:33 had to shit the whole time two weeks from now what else is new that means jimmy's alive some people if i if he's talking he's lying like if jimmy's breathe if jimmy's breathing he's shitting right now or he has to shit or he's plotting out his next shit he's talking, he's lying. If Jimmy's breathing, he's shitting. I'll tell you that right now. Or he has to shit, or he's plotting out his next shit. He's very close to it. Jimmy goes around with just a roll of Charmin under his arm, which people find a little off-putting, but then after a while, they get used to it, and they don't even notice it. They're like, oh, he's a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:16:58 As much as I shit, I don't know how I haven't thought of your idea of every hotel you go to, you bring your own toilet paper. Oh, I always have. I have not thought go to, you bring your own toilet paper. Oh, I owe you. I have not thought of that. Always bring your own toilet paper. Anytime I go to a hotel, I'm like, great, now I'm going to have to wipe my ass with a horrible toilet paper. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I don't even. One roll of Charmin. A good one. You put it in your bag, you bring it, you're fucking in heaven the whole trip. I can't wait for this new tour. It's the worst. And it's so messed up, too, because it doesn't matter how nice of a hotel you're in. Like, we were in Boston.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah. The club put us up in a really nice, beautiful hotel. It was like, we didn't pay for it. It was hundreds of dollars a night. One ply, terrible, shit gas station, ghetto gas station fucking toilet paper. If you go to a Chevron in the worst neighborhood in your city, you'll have the exact same toilet paper
Starting point is 00:17:40 as in this beautiful hotel. Might as well just shower. Egyptian thread, 2,000 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets and one ply Chevron ghetto bathroom toilet paper. Here you go, fuckhead. What is going on in this world? We spared our expense at your ass wipe. Concentrate on the important things.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Fucking assholes. You're going to need thoseian cotton sheets because your asshole is gonna be raw it's gonna be destroyed the sheets in there well that of your hand is gonna be disgusting because those things are like nothing well if i get 46 ply up at once and nope that's equal to nothing it's like it's that shit it's the same shit that like bookies had where if you throw it in the water it dissolves that's what it's about paper yeah yeah it's that shit. It's the same shit that like bookies had where if you throw it in the water, it dissolves. That's what it's about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah. It's terrible stuff is about. They just want it to fucking go away. So from shitting back to this guy's shit life. Let's get into this here. Let's do it in their own words. Nice and early like this and let him kind of try to explain himself and how he started out. He says in their own words, quote, My father brought me to this gym when I was 13.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I needed an outlet. I used to play hockey and everything and that was a lot of fun and I was really, really good at that too. I got into doing jujitsu and stuff like that and I took to it really quick and it kind of chose me in that aspect of it. Before I knew, I was 17 and I had my first fight.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Time had just flown by. That's terrifying, by the way. A jujitsu fighter is playing hockey? Yeah, that's where he started. He quit hockey to play jujitsu. Okay, all right, good. Yeah, you don't want a guy to start choking a dude out on the ice. That's not part of the...
Starting point is 00:19:15 As a father, you've got your 15-year-old into hockey, and you're like, you're going to love it, kid. And then this kid comes at him with the blade end of his fucking shoe. This kid fucking is doing some guillotine choke on him and shit. And you're like, I don't think that's, wow. That's not how this fight's supposed to go. He didn't even pull his jersey over his head first. This is fucked up. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Now you get a fucking hockey player in a triangle. What is this? This is a guy who gets into something and he's into it. That's it. And it's not just MMA. I mean, MMA gets into it 13, leaves hockey behind. Doesn't give a shit about that. Doesn't care about anything but MMA from 13 to 17. Nothing but train, train, train.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Also, at 13, he meets a girl at 13. He meets another 13 year old. Obviously, fingers crossed. Yeah. She wasn't like 26 or anything, which that would make this a very different story. Seven or seven. Again, very different story. or seven again very different story that would be like i don't think that's okay but it doesn't seem like it's not illegal it's so weird
Starting point is 00:20:10 i know they haven't made a law for it yet but it's it's it's odd but it's not a problem yet yeah if it was like a problem morally for me if it was like his you know one of his sixth grade teachers that would be something that we would be talking about but it wasn't he meets a woman named caitlin not a woman she's a child at this point. He meets an eighth grader named Caitlin at this point in time, which is exactly what she was. A future freshman named Caitlin. Who's new to the feminine napkin fucking lifestyle. Brand new to it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Brand new. And he's new to MMA fighting. And they bring these two new interests together. You know how it is. She's hoping one of the M's in MMA stands for menstruation. You know how it goes, and they're just going to have a good old time together. Who the fuck knows what it is? My boyfriend fights Menzies.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He fights the Menzie arts. You know how it is. It's all good. He meets her, so he sticks with MMA and he sticks with Caitlin from 13 on, which is crazy to choose anything that you're going to do later when you're 13, anything, your career, your,
Starting point is 00:21:13 your wife, your spouse, your spouse, your partner, anything play in your life, anything that's going to be an everyday part of your life at 25 should 13 should have nothing to do. You should have wiped all that clean. You should have come out of your depressurization chamber and left all that in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:21:28 All your Ninja Turtles behind you floating behind you in the ocean as you sit like an adult. It should all be sadness. Yeah. So he goes, he starts, he fights at South Shore Sport Fighting is the name of it. He was started fighting kind of little amateur things in new hampshire and massachusetts uh he was always kind of the youngest guy there uh he was the youngest guy they trained here and he was in these tournaments he do he was always the youngest guy there like he would uh young and small and skinny and he was always but he's very very spunky he's got a temper he's got a real
Starting point is 00:22:02 spark to him he's he'll tell'll tell Tommy to come outside with him. I'll tell you that right now, you bastard. I saw you look at it. I saw you, you son of a bitch. There you go. That's it. So he's got that sort of thing. So he ends up training under this Mahoney and Lockhart, these two guys at the South Shore MMA.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's weird because they said this was their youngest person. They had all adults they were training. And they said that they wanted him to really concentrate on something in particular in the fight style. Mahoney here says, quote, my partner Scotty says this all the time. This kid's potential is a million times what he has. He was our first child. He was our first ever child student. Him and his brother showed up at the same day and we had no kids at the time.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I went, all right, I'm going to train this kid to be an MMA fighter. I'm not going to train him in just jujitsu or boxing. He said right from the beginning he was so little we wouldn't do a lot of striking but he just hit the mitts like crazy he would spar grappling and striking and while i'd spar just grappling i think he was already fighting when we asked when he asked what jiu-jitsu was his first art was mma so he didn't start in a discipline he started training for mma yeah that's the difference the guys now that are fighting in ufc most of them started fighting mma they just that's where they started training whereas it used to be you know the mma in the 90s was a guy who's a boxer and a guy who's a wrestler
Starting point is 00:23:36 it was guys from different disciplines we're gonna mix these two guys together that's what it was this guy fights so many other things yeah now you don't have now you might have a guy who's a better striker or a better grappler, but they're not like, you know, this guy's just a puncher and he's an ex-boxer. They don't have that as much anymore. The big-time guys start doing this at a young age here. So at 17, he was September 23, 2006. He's going to be 18 in a month, but he's ready to fight, though.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He's ready to rock and roll this is fucker his parents this standing off to the side going at least he's not getting kicked out of anything they haven't he's been here four years he got kicked out of every school we put him in he's been here four years and they never sent him home with a note fucking pinned to his forehead saying we can't handle this fucking asshole anymore so whatever he's out of our hands now if they make him a vegetable we don't have to deal with him he's not paddington bear he's just he's being included paddington bear that's awesome so this is september 23rd 2006 it's reality fighting invasion got not reality fighting invasion reality fighting colon invasion which all of these
Starting point is 00:24:45 fucking cards i love the card names of all of these things ridiculous whoever comes up with clearly has brain damage they do they think is that going to make you come no like you weren't going to buy this on tv or buy a ticket to see it but now it's the invasion you're like reality fighting invasion this what is this now? Let me look into this further. Hold on a second. Where can I get tickets? No. That doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Just say there's fucking blood. Yeah. Men fighting. Right. There you go. Menzies. Menzies, as we like to call it. MFA.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yes, the Menzies. Martial arts. Menzies martial arts. Menzies martial arts. I like that. That's better. Martial Menzies martial arts men's martial arts i like that that's martial menzies arts that's better that's a good that's much better i think it's much better mixed what is that we're still calling it mma everybody's everybody wins yay look at that we've done good jimmy it's more too. I feel like women would be more prone to watch it. Yeah, for sure. They'd be like, what is this about? And by the time they realize it had nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:25:49 They're clearly feminists. They'd be into it then. They'd already be into the storylines because it is wrestling, as we know. So now they have all that. And there it is. So this is at the Verizon Wireless Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire. So I don't think it's a very big wireless. It's probably where the college plays.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's sponsored by Verizon, though. It's over 3,000, right? Yeah, but there's not New Hampshire. There's no big cities in New Hampshire. There's no population centers. I assume it's a college stadium, but it doesn't fucking matter. He fights Nick Zimmerman. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:20 You know. That kid's familiar, though. You know, you've never heard of this guy. He has a one in seven career record. Maybe I don't you know i don't think you know uh probably not no he comes one in seven one in seven so he was gone yeah the guys he fought this is amazing this guy is one of my favorite mma fighters of all time if i have to if i have to choose one i'm gonna say nick zimmerman because of this this man has an eight career fights. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Okay. Eight fucking career fights. His first fight, Josh Spearman. Okay. Josh Spearman is Josh, quote, little, little, L-I-L, evil Spearman. Little evil. He is five foot one and 125 pounds. And.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Little evil. And. What was the outcome of that shit? And he's a, keep in mind, he's a 7-21 career fighter. So he's not like a great fighter or anything. This Nick Zimmerman fights him in the first fight of his career, loses to Spearman. Spearman beats this Zimmerman up. Then this Zimmerman wins a fight against a Joe McCraggahan.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Then he loses the rest of the fights that he fights. An Amphone foe. Then he fights Josh Spearman again. Then he fights John LeBlanc. that he fights. Right. An Amphone foe. Then he fights Josh Spearman again. Then he fights John LeBlanc. Then he fights Crispy here. Then he fights Josh Spearman again. Good Christ, he fought the man three times. First of all, out of every fight he's had, only one guy's first name doesn't start with a J,
Starting point is 00:27:37 which I find fucking weird as shit. Second of all, out of eight fights, he fought the same man three times and lost every fucking time. Stop fighting. Hi, I'm Josh Spearman. I'd like to tell you all about my new foundation, the Beating the Shit Out of Nick Zimmerman Foundation. I've made it my life's work to pummel him, and you should, too. Donate today. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:27:59 This guy's just... How do you go into... My career? What do you do for a living? I kick this guy's ass named Nick Zimmerman about three, four times a month. I beat the shit out of him. They pay me and I go home to my wife and kids. What the fuck is happening? Meanwhile, that guy's won seven fights.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Three of those fights were against fucking Nick Zimmerman. Nick Zimmerman. That's what I said, too. He only has four at-large wins. Non-Zimmerman related wins. He has 25 other fights. He only won three of them. But he just owns.
Starting point is 00:28:24 He just fucking owns this guy. It's awesome. That's amazing. This is awesome. So this is Grisby's first pro fight and his trainer said this is the first time they ever saw anybody piss him off. Apparently before the
Starting point is 00:28:40 fight, Nick Zimmerman called him a pretty boy. And they said he was ready to kill him. That's Boston for faggot. That's exactly what that is. He said, I wouldn't step outside with Tommy, did he? He called me a fucking pussy. No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No one calls me a pussy. He said, I goggle cum and I swallow. That's what he said. No, he called you a pretty boy. No, no, no. I know what that means. I know what the fuck that means. You don't have to tell me nothing. He said, I got jizz all over my face. No, he called you a pretty boy. No, no, no. I know what that means. I know what the fuck that means. You don't have to tell me nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:05 He said, I got jizz all over my face. Tommy, give me another beer. Yeah, then we're going outside. But give me a beer first. Let's go. Come on. You need one too. Come on, pal.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Let's do this. And then they're friends for some reason afterwards. He said my butt cheeks are sewed up shut like a fucking envelope from cum. That's what he said. So he said you're a pretty boy. Calm down. This is what he said. Listen to me.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I know what happened. I saw the look on his face. He said, you're a pretty boy. Calm down. This is what he said. Listen to me. I know what happened. I saw the look on his face. He said, my colon is covered in semen. That's what he said. That's what he told me. He told me it. He told me that him and the referee were going to spit roast me and I was going to fucking enjoy it. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He said they were going to Eiffel Tower me and meet right in the fucking middle. He said Eiffel Tower. Is that what he said? He said Eiffel Tower. I heard him he said? He said Eiffel Tower. I heard him. I heard him. I heard him. You hear him?
Starting point is 00:29:47 I heard him. Scotty, you heard him. Scotty, you hear him? I heard him. I'm telling you right now. Said he wouldn't shake my hand because our hands will stick together from all the semen. That's what he said. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So that's Boston translation of pretty. Pretty equals all of that. Unless you're talking about Tom Brady, right? Unless, yeah, that's different. I get it because we all have to love him. And they Tom Brady, right? Yeah, that's different. I get it, because we all have to love him. And they just go, oh, yeah, he's a handsome man. He's so handsome. You don't have to be gay to recognize the handsomeness of Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's all I'm saying. You don't have to be gay. It's not gay if he comes in my ass. It's not gay. At that point. It's patriotic, damn it. It's patriotic. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:23 It's like Lady Liberty sitting right on your face. That's what it's on. It's respecting Robert Kraft. It's Lady Liberty face sitting on me. That's the same exact thing. Exactly the same. I'm doing it for Robert's dead wife. That's what I'm doing it for.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Oh, man. So all of that taken from the pretty boy comment causes Grisby to actually go crazy here and beat this man with punches. Knocks him out in 18 seconds in the first round. So he was like, call me a fucking pretty boy. He went after him like he took him outside. Like there was no strategy in that. He's just like, I'm kicking your ass. He's knocked out and he's like jerking off on his.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Oh, you know, he did. You know, he did. You know, he went out poured sugar in his gas tank. Where's your girlfriend? Where is she? He went gave her a black eye. That's for calling me pretty. Who's pretty now? Not your girlfriend. I'll tell you that much. Not with a big black eye. She's not a
Starting point is 00:31:17 son of a bitch. So anyway, how many shots at Boston can we a lot? It's going to be the whole time. And that's the problem, too. This took place, like we said, in Manchester. It has nothing to do with Boston. He's 1-0 anyway. That's pretty much the news they get anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:35 October 14th, though. Oh, boy. 2006. So this is very soon. What was it? September 23rd. Now less than a month later. October 14th is Combat Zone 18, colon, Street
Starting point is 00:31:47 Justice 2. Hold on. You can't have... They all do this. You can't have sequels of sequels. You can't have sequels of sequels. You can't have Combat Zone 18, Street Justice 2. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm sorry. That's not going to work. You can have Street Justice 2. You can have Combat Zone 18. You can't have them both. You can't have Fast and the furious 8 colon no fucking series 19 then another yeah subtitle quote yeah colon tokyo drift 5 you can't have that that wouldn't be that it's this subgenre of this particular movie of this thing it's where star
Starting point is 00:32:19 wars is going right that's kind of weird but street justice 2 and why not save street justice when you're out of combat zones? Right. When the combat zones are getting a little old and you're like, we've called the last 35 from combat, so how about Street Justice now? Cool, we can use that for 30 fights. Fuck it. And by the way, combat zone colon street justice, that's fucking two different things.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It's different. It's street justice or are we in an organized combat zone? Right, exactly. Make your fucking mind up what we're doing here. I agree. This is what? Bullshit. It's bullshit is what it is jimmy we both know combat zone fucking jungle rules what is this we know exactly what it is a load of shit right that's right it's two dudes fighting i'm buying a ticket that's what it is i'm i pass on this one but this this is at
Starting point is 00:33:00 the club lido in revere massachusetts i'm going oververe. I'm going to go see Grisby fight. He's fighting in Revere. How much do we love Paulie? We named the town after him. That's right. He's fighting Dan Bonnell. I don't know who he is, but he's going to whoop his ass.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I know that. He fights Dan Bonnell, who's an 11 and 10 career fighter. This is his fourth fight overall. He comes into this fight one and two, this Bonnell. Grisby wins with a submission, a guillotine choke at 27 seconds in round one. So now he's two and oh, and he has 45 total ring seconds.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And it's vicious, too. Yeah, knockout and a quick chokeout. So he's doing well. He has to be feeling good about himself, even though he's only fighting in combat zone. It's not UFC, but it's where he is. So, I mean, fuck it. October 28th. So that was the 14th.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So he fights the 14th. Now he's fighting again on the 28th. This is World Fighting League 12 Callaway Cup 3. So, yes. They mix a fucking golf reference into it? I don't know what is happening here. The Callaway Cup. I don't know if they're sponsored by golf tees.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I don't know what the hell is happening, but World Fighting League 12, Callaway Cup 3. Right. Insane. The winner gets a big berth up. You get a big, yeah. Oh, boy. Look at that graphite handle, baby. It's got some give to it. You're going to smack a ball 400 yards with that bad boy. It's John Daly
Starting point is 00:34:19 promoting it. You know it's good. Club Lido, this is again in Revere, Mass. He fights Clyde Ganthier, who's an 0-1 career fighter. Total. Not just coming in. This is his only fight. And he said, never mind.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Forget it. This fight, Josh wins by a knockout with punches in no time. Zero. The one site, I found on several sites, they all either say 0-0 zero, or N-A. So not applicable. Somehow, before the fight started, he knocked this man out cold.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I don't know what happened, how he did that, but impressive, I would say. He beat this man back into time. That's impressive. That is very impressive. That's Spearman- did the guy that's spearman that's spearman this guy diagnosed with like fucking pancreatic cancer at the bell this is his make-a-wish this is his make-a-wish right here
Starting point is 00:35:17 he just he's got like a week to live and he's like i want to fight mm hey but like we don't think you could make it you're too weak he's like i don't care i can do it if i'm gonna die i'm gonna die in the ring and they're like all right and they just deal have a cut man ding ding i think he's dead i guess 0.00 you guys in agreement i don't know i'm going with that a fuck it oh and one though he has a shirt on page That is what we are sure of. That's what we're positive of. These are all non-linkers, by the way, so far, obviously. November, so he's 3-0, Josh.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But if that was the real story of that man's life, he'd fucking be a linker. For sure. That'd be a linker. Oh, yeah. That would be an amazing story. That'd be the best Wikipedia page ever. That'd be so amazing. This man was beaten to death as his last wish.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That'd be so amazing. Like, this man was beaten to death as his last wish. This poor, sick man. But he wanted to be pummeled into that great good night. And he just went, take me. Such a fan of Blue Cross Blue Shield. He wanted to save them a shitload of money. It's before the fight.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Before the fight. I saved a bunch of money on my health insurance by being pummeled into oblivion. Oh, my God. Before the fight, instead of threatening him, he said, please walk me into that great sunset. I was like, okay. Read him the rainbow bridge poem. Yeah, he was like, this is fucking weird, man. Shit's getting creepy. This poem was written for a German shepherd, I think.
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Starting point is 00:39:12 One app. If you love the show, share it with a friend, and remember to rate and review. And now back to the show. So, November 18th, 2006, less than, this is 20 days later. So, I mean, he's fighting fast. I mean, it doesn't really matter yet. He's not getting hit ever. He's never been touched.
Starting point is 00:39:29 He's finding guys, grabbing them and beating them up. Right. Powering cancer patients into dust. These are basically debt collecting at this point. Some guy owed some money and he just went and roughed them up a little bit. Now he's going to pay up. Maybe that's all this is. Maybe this World Extreme Fighting, World Fighting League is just some sort of weird cover
Starting point is 00:39:45 for a loan collection thing where people owe gambling debts. So November 18th, Full Force Productions this is now. Colon? Untamed 8. Are you serious? I swear to Christ. Let's fuck out of here. No, it's every time. Untamed 8.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You don't get to do that. No, that sounds like a weird porn. It does. Full Force Produ that sounds like a weird porn there it's a full force productions presents untamed and it's super racist like they paint up an african-american lady in like a lion outfit or some shit yeah yeah i was thinking yeah yeah hunter in the serengeti yeah and then like seven dudes fucker yeah yeah and she's she really likes it though that's the that's the twist that's the twist like She's into it once they catch her. Because that's full-forced productions. Full-forced productions.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Ridiculous. It's not voluntary. It's right in our name. Full-forced. Right. None of these actors are voluntarily. Nobody enjoys anything. Not even the guys fucking.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Can I stop now? Once again, they owe us money. They have to do this. This is court-ordered just for debt payment. Sorry. They can't help it. This is court ordered just for debt payment. Sorry. They can't help it. This is in Mansfield, Massachusetts. Again, all these masses.
Starting point is 00:40:50 These are just a bunch of screaming, drunken Boston bloodthirsty fight fans. He fights Eddie the Tick Felix, which sounds like a low-level MMA fighter. If there's ever been a low-level MMA fighter, it's Eddie the Tick Felix. It's kind of like in the beginning of Rocky when he's like, I fought Spider Rico. That's the low levelest boxing guy ever. Spider Rico. Meanwhile, same thing. This guy's trying to brag he likes fucking comic books, but Spider-Man's hacky.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Superman's hacky. I'm going with the Tick. I'll go with the Tick. I'm going with, I want a deep cut. No, I'm not Duckman. I can't fucking be Duckman. What are you talking about? Nobody will get it.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Nobody's going to know what that is. I got to go with the tick. I'm going with the tick. He was cool. So this is a 5-23 career fighter. So they should have strict ticks have more wins against humans than that, against deer and whatever they do. Mice.
Starting point is 00:41:39 There's a mouse and tick thing. I'm sure, yeah. Anyway, Josh wins with a TKO with punches at 49 seconds in the first round. So he hasn't had a fight go a minute yet. No. So he barely even breaks sweat against these people. He's 4-0 at this point. Killing it.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Killing it. He fights December 2, 2006. Combat zone 19, above and beyond. That's the colon? That's the colon. Colon, above and beyond. It's 19. We get it. Number 18? colon. That's the colon. Colon. Above and beyond. It's 19. We get it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Remember 18? Yeah. You know what this is? Was that below and before? Above and beyond. Whatever the fuck. Yeah. What was 18?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Now they have to top. How do you top above and beyond? Now what? Now you got to go to something different. Above and beyond. Every time you just go further. And you already use street justice. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So what the fuck are you supposed to do now? Yeah. You could have had it, but you blew it. This is at the club lido again this seems to be this this be this fighting organization's home club right here the the lido uh uh this is in revere mass he fights henrique uh bill bill calho bill calho and henrique bill calho that's his last name that's a bill calho wow uh b Wowza. B-I-L-C-A-L-H-O. Bill Calho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Bill Calho. I don't know. Henrique Bill Calho. That's fucking horrible. That's a tough name to say. Just fucking have your first name Bill. How you doing? Bill Calho.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Bill Calho here. Bill Calho. Like a Ford dealership. Like my cousin Vinny. Right. Calho. Jerry Calho. Anyway, this guy's a 10 and 2 career fighter.
Starting point is 00:43:07 This is a weird thing. Did you write Gallo? No, no. I said Callow. Callow. Callow. With a C. So he's a 10 and 2 career fighter.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And I'll be honest. I'd like to know more about this guy's career, but I had enough to look at with this other guy's career. And I was really interested in Nick Zimmerman and Josh Spearman and all that mess, so I got more into that. I want to know all about Nick Zimmerman. My favorite MMA fighter of all time,
Starting point is 00:43:32 Nick Zimmerman, one and seven. Love him. He's, I will fuck Spearman up. I like zero and one guy, too. That guy's fucking awesome. I want to know that Zimmerman's stalking Spearman. I really feel like he watches him when he leaves his house and fucking hangs outside his window he looks at his kids as they get on the bus and shit and he's like i could take him right now i could take him
Starting point is 00:43:52 they'd be in the river nobody'd ever know oh and three you can't take it like fuck you fight he's beat you up three times you're the only guy they're gonna suspect it's just gonna be you and go anybody beat you up lately well this one guy, I beat him up three times in the last few years, so he might want some revenge. Do you have any enemies? Yeah, I got a guy whose entire life is ruined because of me. Half of my wins of my career against him, roughly, so he's a little embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He only has one. And all of his losses, or half of his losses are against me. You know how that goes. That's depressing. So this guy, this Bill Calho guy here, he's a 10 and 2 career fighter and then he retires. He won the last five fights of his career and then retired, which you never see. No. That's usually, honestly, the most you see is like two to three fights, lose, lose, lose,
Starting point is 00:44:43 and then they retire. Some of the guys have like nine. Once in a while, you'll see a guy go out on a win. They'll fight a tomato can at the end so they can say they went out on a win, that sort of shit. But they usually aren't 10 and 2. They usually don't go from 5 and 2 to 10 and 2. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's like a good comeback of your career and then retire. And this one, this only goes 132 of round one. And Henrique beats Josh with a submission. He gets a heel hook on him and beats him. So anything can happen in MMA, as we know. In two seconds, someone could grab you or knock you out or something here. Bill Calho's a decent fighter. He's not bad here, Bill Calho. He's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Just drop the Henrique altogether, unless he runs for office. And then he's going to pull that Henrique card out. And then you've got to do that. Definitely. I would. definitely i would shit and that's how you're gonna oh my god you gotta be a second you need some sort of identity can't tell you guys i'm latino you can't be bill calho running for off no one knows who that nobody cares about that guy who who there's just no there's not even a catchiness to the name nothing no matter what he is uh so he's four and one now josh is uh february 3rd now he takes two months off okay so take the holidays off heal up after fucking being submitted huge
Starting point is 00:45:50 win he's on it well well josh is and josh is four and one that's that's still a good start to your career he's still he is still very excessively young that's the other thing too i mean look at where he can't even drink alcohol no he's fucking he's 18 years old i mean he just turned he's 18 this is fucking nuts here uh so he's doing well for 18 i wasn't ready to professionally fight anybody at 18 uh i am now though i'm ready to go if anybody wants to book us yeah me and jimmy are uh we only fight tag team mma though uh we do tag or handicap matches we will take on one competitor with the two of us also, which is pretty. That's fun. We do a good job with that.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It's pretty good. Yeah, we're pretty sneaky. We have a routine worked out. It's not bad. Call us. I'll fight a podcaster. I'll fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Let him know. I'll be just about not Rogan. Anyone but Rogan. I'm sure Steve Austin. I don't want to fight either. I don't know. There's a bunch of I'm not scared of Steve at this point. Austin will kick your fucking ass. He's about 240 pounds. Let's go, Steve.'t want to fight either. I don't know. There's a bunch of them. I'm not scared of Steve at this point. Steve Austin will kick your fucking ass.
Starting point is 00:46:45 He's about 240 pounds. Let's go, Steve. He played college football. Wrestler. I think he'd throw you in the garbage. Let's go hook our horns, Steve. Let's go. He'd pick you up and just dunk you in the garbage.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And he'd leave your feet going up and dangling. Oh, what's wrong with you, son? What's wrong with you, boy? You want more, boy? Yeah. Whatever the fuck he'd say. He'd pull you out and give you a beer. He'd say something horrible.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He'd pull you out and give you a beer. He'd call you the N-word. a beer call you the n-word i'm sure smash the beer on my forehead i think i think he's pretty cool like that unless you're he had some problems though never mind everybody forgot about that everyone forgot about the fact that he smacked the shit out of his wife didn't everyone did everyone forget about that hey listen he's fine now no one cares he's got a contract that's what it is no one cares anymore though they're like that was but you expect that he's a drunken do you see how many beers he drinks at once of course he does that i don't know february 3rd february 3rd world fighting league 15 colon yeah winter brawl 2007 great you don't need the other part no it's just world fighting league winter brawl 2007 you don't need the 15 part. That's not
Starting point is 00:47:45 needed. This is Club Lido again. He fights Edward Odquina. Another weird name. Odquina, who's an 0-5 career fighter. This is the third fight of his career, so this
Starting point is 00:48:02 will tell you exactly what happens here. Josh gets back on track with a submission with an arm bar at one minute, 11 seconds in the first round. So he still hasn't had a fight go out of the first round. No. Which is crazy. Even the one he lost. Yeah, in his six fights. It's either all or nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:18 That's his style, though. He goes in all the way. Take it easy with your all or nothing. That's the name of a fucking fighting thing. Oh, you know it is. All or nothing, 12. Extreme street justice fighting championship combat 14. It's fucking so dumb.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Colon menses. March 10th, 2007. He must owe some money. He's back doing full force productions again. He's like, oh, come on. Let's force it. That poor woman. I can't do that to her.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I like lions. This is full force productions colon untamed 10 jesus so this is they have a lion threesome a lioness threesome now in this one it's crazy this is in plymouth massachusetts here he fights fernando bernardino uh here this is his first career fight, Fernando. So obviously he's very promising, this Fernando. He fights Josh Crispy. But Fernando doesn't, put it this way, it's some of these guys we talk about, they all have like a big future ahead of them.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Some of them kind of have a mediocre future or whatever. This guy, this is pretty much his grace, Fernando's. Really? This is his first fight. He's 0-3 career and he retires. So I would say pre-first fight, when he's in the gear, being announced and walked to the ring, that's probably his best moment of his career. When he's like, the possibilities are unlimited. It's like a terrible baseball team in the spring.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Like, we could, we're still. We could do it. We are as equal with the champs right now. Everybody's equal. Everyone's equal. Whoever wins at the end of the season, we were still we could do it. We are as equal with the champs right now. Everybody's equal. Everyone's whoever wins at the end of the season. We were the same as them today. Bell rings. It's over.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So this fight actually goes all three rounds, though. Somehow this fucking Fernando Bernardino takes Josh for all three. So Josh proves that he won't pass out in three rounds. And he's in really good shape. Like, I mean, I don't know, cardiovascular, but he's real cut up and shit. He doesn't look like a guy who has any trouble with, you know. Lifting, fighting, breathing. With cardio.
Starting point is 00:50:12 He doesn't look like he's going to get real tired and get blown up real quick here. But Josh wins a unanimous decision here, luckily for him, which is good. At least he didn't lose a unanimous decision to this fucking tomato can. That would sting a smidge. That's a little rough on him uh so now he's six and one uh total uh here uh march 31st 2007 this is world fighting league 16 colon yeah moment of truth two no yes it absolutely
Starting point is 00:50:40 is world fighting league 16 colon moment of truth again two one more time moment of truth come back It absolutely is. World Fighting League 16, call it Moment of Truth 2. Again. One more time. Moment of Truth, come back at me now. Moment of Truth one more gin. Hit me back again. Jesus Christ. World Fighting League 16, Moment of Truth, get it again. In case you forgot. Yeah, that's a Jason Fuller joke right there.
Starting point is 00:51:06 So Club Lido here. so club in case you forgot yeah that's a jason fuller joke right there that's a so club lito here uh this is an exciting fight for him okay because you know he fights this week who's that charlie murphy not that charlie he does not fight eddie murphy's brother fight a man with fucking leukemia he doesn't fight at this point like a 46 year old man with leukemia in 2007 who's carrying a shit bag yeah you think charlie murphy'd be like know what i want to do i can see it i've been thinking about it charlie's the greatest i've been on tv i'm touring all over the world i'm gonna fight a motherfucker now yeah that's right fuck fuck your couch fuck your face i'm gonna fuck it up so i opened for that man and he told me we're sitting in the green room i'm sitting right next to him we're watching a nothing tv show we're it's quiet as
Starting point is 00:51:52 a mouse in the green room and he looks at me dead in the face and goes fuck sean wayans that's awesome and then he started the greatest stories you've ever heard about how much of an asshole sean wayans is i love when famous comedians tell us stories about hating other famous comedians. That's joyous to us. We love that. And normally, Charlie Murphy's dead, so I don't think he'll give a fuck. But normally, if someone's alive, we don't disclose that shit. But if they're dead, fuck them.
Starting point is 00:52:20 It doesn't matter. They don't care. It's not going to hurt them. Charlie would be beaming with pride. Hey, Sean Wayans, Charlie Murphy thinks you're an asshole. He thought you were an asshole. I don't know if you thought you two were friends, but you weren't. He fucking hates you.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And apparently every Murphy thought the same thing. I was going to say, and I bet because of that, Eddie dislikes you also, which probably hurts you. I think Eddie Murphy's opinion strongly influenced Charlie's. I would assume so. I would assume so. So there you go. So there you go. Comic legend hates your fucking guts. And his
Starting point is 00:52:49 MMA fighting brother. The two? My favorite Murphy. Deal with that. Jesus. So Charlie here. Charlie Murphy's a one in five career MMA fighter. That one win was versus Rick James too, which we all know that's his one win, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Rick James and the shit back. That was his one win was versus Rick James, too, which we all know that's his one win, wasn't it? Slap Rick James with a shit bag. That was his one win. His Chappelle show open hand slap of Rick James in the China Club. I think Rick James slapped him, matter of fact. Well, Rick James hit him with the unity thing. And then later on in a hotel room, he kicked him in the chest and sent Rick James flying through the air. And also at the China Club, he's open hand slapped him down to the bar.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And he was like, I don't know what you mean, Charlie Murphy. Like, he honestly didn't remember hitting him and all that. Everybody's seen the episode. So anyway, it's the most important episode. It is. It's very important. Of really television in general. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:42 People can say what they want about educational things. Dave Chappelle might be a genius because he just heard those stories just from Charlie. He's like, we're putting him in the show. That's a show right there. It is a show. That's fucking hilarious. Especially with Charlie telling them how to make it. This Charlie Murphy has actually, his one win came in his
Starting point is 00:54:00 second fight. He ends up being one in five career. This is not his second fight. So Josh wins being one in five career. This is not his second fight. So Josh wins with a submission arm bar in the first round quickly. Seven and one for Josh. Like I said, Charlie Murphy will go on to die, sadly, at a young age. Terrible, terrible. Terrible tragedy.
Starting point is 00:54:18 We all like Charlie Murphy. Anyway. Thank God his daughter's got Uncle Eddie around. That's going to help a lot, I would say. Because Eddie Murphy is pretty fucking rich. He's got some money. I've heard he has a couple of bucks. Just a thought.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Heard he can afford rent this week. I think he can. I think he can probably get it. He's working on it. He wants to get his car payment up, but I think he can get it. He's going to have a rent party, but I think he's going to pull it together at the end. He might have a GoFundMe, but... You never know.
Starting point is 00:54:42 You never know. There's a GoFundMe in this story, by the way. Oh, my God. There is two GoFundMes You never know. You never know. There's a GoFundMe in this story, by the way. Oh, my God. There is two GoFundMe in this story. Not one, but two. Very sad GoFundMe. Fantastic. April 28, 2007 is Reality Fighting Domination is the name of the fucking promotion and card.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And there's no colon. There's no number. Reality Fighting Domination, which absolutely sounds like porn. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. It's the Everett Arena in Concord, New Hampshire. He fights Glenn Medeiros. He is an 0-5 career fighter.
Starting point is 00:55:15 So he's not fighting the cream of the crop here. There's no like, oh, this guy just won a title or something. Nope, he's fighting tomato cans. This is his second toto-last fight, so he's 0-3 coming into this fight. This is the one here where his coaches said that Glenn Medeiros gave Josh a, quote, smug smile before the fight.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That made Josh want to kill him, apparently. He was like, there, that motherfucker. Look at me like that. Blah, blah, blah. He turned into a Boston meathead in fucking.2 seconds and went right into that. apparently he was like that there that motherfucker yeah look at me like that blah blah blah he turned into a boston meathead in fucking 0.2 seconds and went right into that he thought he was in a bar he was just completely mistaken he was on ecstasy you know that guy's so uh this fight again he attacks him because of this he's so angry and he wins with the tko with punches at 40 seconds of round one
Starting point is 00:56:02 so when he gets mad it's good for for him. I mean, in the ring. Yeah, in the ring. If he fought a good fighter, I'm sure that guy would use that against him. And this 0-5 guy doesn't. He's just like, oh, God, this guy looks mad. Uh-oh. Duck and cover. Duck and cover.
Starting point is 00:56:17 What did I do? Here he comes. Remember that smile, motherfucker? Stop. No. Come on, stop. He starts going into that. Come on, quit it. He keeps hitting. Stop on quit it he keeps it who stopped knock it off
Starting point is 00:56:28 cut it out man i can't breathe that's not fair give me a chance give me a chance come on like fix it on your little brother yeah exactly uh so he's eight and one now josh is uh so uh uh they said about him also about uh crispy his coaches quote, he's such a nice kid. We have tons of jokes about it. He likes to find reasons subconsciously to get really angry at his opponent right before he gets in the cage. So that's what he does. He's looking for bullshit. Like a Boston bar goer, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Exactly the same thing. He's looking for reasons. He said, quote, I remember there was a kid, Glenn Medeiros, and he got in the cage and was like I'm going to and it was like I'm going to go easy on this kid he was like oh and four so Josh was like I'm gonna go easy on this kid he was like oh and four I'm not gonna pummel him that quickly and then he gets in the cage as coach says and this kid
Starting point is 00:57:16 just has this cocky grin and Josh looks it up us and and was like what is he smiling at so then he said he just gets so angry it really motivates him i remember his first fight he takes he takes smiling as flirting he takes it as flirting he said he called me a faggot that's what he did just now right now i saw it wasn't that his fucking mother's sitting behind me over here on this side of the cage as i pace around he said
Starting point is 00:57:40 hey my you doing i see you there no no he called me a faggot. I'm going to beat the shit out of him. He said he wants to goggle my balls. I saw it. Is that right? Let's do this. So he says, quote, he just gets so angry it really motivates him. I remember his first fight, this guy, Nick Zimmerman, said, oh, that's the pretty boy I'm fighting. And he just completely lost it.
Starting point is 00:57:57 No one that has survived more than a minute that's angered him. But I don't know if it'll work so well against world-class guys like we just said that's yeah if you know what to do you're like oh he ran at me i'm gonna put him on his face and twist him into a fucking pretzel and that's how it goes uh june 16th 2007 think about this he is still he's born in 88 he is still 18 years old he's born in october of 88 and this is his his 10th mma fight unbelievable at 18 years old. He's born in October of 88. And this is his 10th MMA fight. Unbelievable. At 18 years old. So he's super young. Full force productions.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Colon. Untamed. 14. Jesus. They're going to have a lioness pyramid where from crotch to face. They're going to go stack themselves like that with a large vagina on top. Looking like a sunshine. Like a sunrise.
Starting point is 00:58:46 They're going to present a baby out of it at a fucking Lion King music place. That's what's going to happen. You know it's going to happen. They buffed the production value for this one, which I will say that's impressive. They're investing in their own product, which you can't fault a company for that, Jimmy. We bought the studio. We built it. We invested in our product.
Starting point is 00:59:05 They're investing in their product. You've got to spend money to make money. You've got to spend money to make money. That's what I'm saying. I heard this is going to be on Broadway this fall. It's going to be impressive. I'll say that. It's artsy.
Starting point is 00:59:14 It's artsy. It might be off-Broadway. We don't know. It's more of an art piece. There's a little more detail in that vagina than I'd like. You know what I mean? But it is what it is, man. It's raw art.
Starting point is 00:59:24 That's the thing. I see it may be a minor. This is weird. It's raw art. That's the thing. I see it when I be a minor. This is weird. It's street art, baby. This is real. This is theater right here. This is what theater was made for. It was this sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:59:33 So this Untamed 14, Plymouth Memorial Hall in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Shocker, Plymouth Memorial Hall. He fights Paul Gorman. Very exciting sounding fighter here. He's a 10-9 career fighter. Not awful. Not awful, mediocre, but he's won 10 fights, so he knows how to fight a little bit here. Josh wins by submission.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Round one with a triangle choke. Two minutes and 29 seconds in a round one. Wow. So he's back on track after his stupid loss there. December 15, 2007. This is five months, six months later uh this is uh full force productions again man they please put they put them out these productions out jesus christ every month they're working on the next one oh well yeah this is well the next one that june was
Starting point is 01:00:18 number 14 december yeah number 18 this is colon untamed 18 they won't give up on that untamed title there they love it no they love it this is a give up on that untamed title there they love it no they love it this is a lot of money that untamed you have to have it really without that what people aren't going to think there's full fucking penetration they're not going to think it they think it's tamed if we don't they think it's tamed they're going to think that all it's all blurred out it's like japanese porn they're going to look at it forced productions yes full forced productions don't put that on the letterhead, though. Just force on the letterhead.
Starting point is 01:00:46 When we send it to people, we know. We'll put a little D in pen so they'll know. They know. This is in Plymouth again. Like we said, he fights here. Spencer Mr. Fantastic is his nickname, which seems like just a blatant thievery of Paul Arndt, or Mr. Wonderful.
Starting point is 01:01:05 You're not Mr. Wonderful. You're not Mr. Wonderful. You're not Mr. Fantastic. You're a shithead. Spencer, Mr. Fantastic, shithead page. He's a 7-2 career fighter total. He won the last two fights of his career and then retired. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:18 These two fights come after this fight, though. Better fighter than he is creative, though. Apparently, yes. Absolutely. But with his nicknames. Josh wins this fight a with a knockout with a kick to the head uh in round one at 11 seconds so he basically the bell rings they both bounce up to the middle and josh kicked him in the head and then he went home it's over that was it what a fucking strategic fucking hung his shit up and went home yeah so he's fighting bums here i don't know who
Starting point is 01:01:45 the spencer page beat i mean christ almighty he got knocked out with the first fucking blow this guy through and a kick and a kick to the head yeah you're not looking for that right away how do you not see that shit coming i could see that in the fight in the heat of the fight you're gonna exchange with your hands and then something comes up yeah this is you should be ready for everything when you walk to the middle he's got, everything at his disposal at that point. He could do anything. And he pulls the kick. Like, how desperate was he to end this fight, too?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Boom, wow, like, fuck. I gotta fucking throw a kick right now. I wonder if he winked at him or something. Hey, nice ass. And he's like, I'll fucking rip his head off. 11 seconds. He's trying to explode his cranium right now. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So now he's 10 and 1, Josh. So this is not, this is impressive. He's's 10 and 1 josh so this is not this is impressive he's now 10 and 1 he just turned 19 years old so if you're one of the bigger companies you're going to start looking at this guy and they actually do start looking at this guy uh right now he's going to uh uh february 13 2008 a couple months later he fights the world Extreme Cage Fighting 32 colon Albuquerque. No number, just Albuquerque. May as well just say sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Comma, no need to put this in here. No one's going to go, oh, it's in Albuquerque? Oh, I got to buy this now. It's on pay-per-view, right? This is the one you can miss. This is the one from Albuquerque because I don't want to miss it. Don't give me this Las Cruces bullshit because I won't stand for that. This is in Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, which I guess is just probably a suburb.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's probably Tempe to Phoenix, I'm sure. It's near Albuquerque. It's still Albuquerque. It's a dump. He fights Mark the Machine Hominic. I guess this guy's considered a pretty good fighter. He's true he fights mark the machine hominic uh i guess this guy's considered a pretty good fighter uh he's a 20 and 12 career fighter and he lost the last four of his career so before that he was 20 and 8 which isn't fucking terrible i mean that's 20 wins is 20 wins that's a
Starting point is 01:03:37 you're a decent fighter you know that's like if you played in the majors for three years like you're pretty good fucking ball player if you you, better than most. Put it that way. So what? He stole his nickname from a comedian. Yeah, that's that's. Well, I think he had. Yeah, I'm sure there was many other people that had it first. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I assume. But that's OK. Well, they can share it. That's all right. They're not in the same sphere. It's OK. Unless Bert got it from a fucking Russian guy. Yeah, I was going to say, unless hominids going to start telling stories about drinking with russian gangsters i don't think it's a problem i think it's gonna
Starting point is 01:04:08 be okay for now you're calling a russian lady a bitch that's fucking hilarious so uh josh wins this by submission uh at 255 of round one it's another first round fight this is a rear naked choke uh it brings him up to 11 and one so they're fucking awesome that's 11 and 1 is great uh now he takes a few months off uh from february 13 2008 normally he's been fighting pretty often uh this he actually takes some time off till august uh august 3rd 2008 a whole year are you six months what happened that's a lot of training and what what do you say you're doing just hanging training i get boxers doing that shit but these guys don't do that. No, he was fighting every two weeks for a while there.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Now you don't fucking fight forever. It seems like now when the money, when there's actual money involved in fights now, it's like you have to wait for that fight because it's a more money fight. And if you don't want to fight that guy, because if you actually lose to that guy, then you're not going to get that fight,
Starting point is 01:05:00 which is the money fight. So I guess it's more complicated. It's very much, yeah. A little bit of ability to get paid, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah so it's okay i can see that it's more complicated now when you get it's very much a little bit of a little bit of like ability to get paid you know what i mean yeah yeah oh it's the same thing i don't want to fucking go do comedy unless there's some money involved yeah yeah i'm not yeah i'm not gonna draw you no our listeners and our fucking fans for nothing for nothing you yeah for a hundred dollars or whatever that's not gonna work yeah it doesn't work for me sorry thank you or if you're gonna pay me to go do some private shit
Starting point is 01:05:23 where i don't have to bring a single person. I'm not going to promote it. You can still pay me. That's great. If you have any affairs that you'd like to just pay me and Jimmy for. Guaranteed audience? I'm in. Yeah, we don't even have to do comedy. He just wants to show up and talk to people. We'll do that. I'll show up with a roll of Charmin and go shit somewhere. He's definitely going to shit up
Starting point is 01:05:42 your bathroom. That's the thing. He's going to shit up your bathroom and leave me out there to talk to people i'm gonna be like where is jimmy with this shit and i'm bad at this and then he's gonna come out and say tell me about your juicer and everything's gonna be fine and then i'll go off somewhere and i'll hold my own for a while though i'll be fine and friendly but then after that i'm done yeah yeah i'm gonna be done and i'll come out with freshly you're gonna be fresh fresh charming dangling down behind you as you walk out under your arm. It's going to be beautiful. So Josh is now, like I said, 11-1
Starting point is 01:06:10 going into August 3rd, 2008. World Extreme Cage Fighting 35. He left it at that. So that's good. No colon. You were like, here it comes. This is at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas because it's a real event. This is what I mean. This is why he takes a little more time off.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Save up for that Hard Rock fight train. He fights Micah Maverick Miller here. He's a 20 and 8 career fighter, and I hope he's related to Mayhem Miller, because that would make me very happy. I give him a lot of credit for going with, what was his nickname? Maverick. Right, right. Yeah, he went with a gay icon.
Starting point is 01:06:44 That's good. Yeah, it's very progressive of him. Good for you. Rather than Eminem. Yeah,ick. He went with a gay icon. That's good. Very progressive of him. Good for you. Rather than Eminem. Yeah. He could have really stumbled on this one. He could have done badly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:52 He could have done bad. Instead, he went with, like I said, he's progressive. That's all. Good for you, buddy. He went with a gay icon. That's true. And so Josh wins with a knockout with punches at 50 seconds of round one. So many fights under a minute.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Like why he had to fly all the way to Las Vegas and train for six months to fight for less than a minute. That's how fucked this whole sport is. He can win that handily that many times and it takes him this long to get somewhere that fucking matters. Yeah, it's weird. So at this point, he's 12 and one uh mahoney his trainer said quote josh's style is just so reckless and so raw it's really different when you're in there with him and his crazy reach and his ridiculous power yeah so yeah he just bursts out and starts fucking attacking people but it's a fluke james which it's a fluke man he needs a
Starting point is 01:07:40 fluke win which is funny all of the most of the mma fighters we haven't had many mma fighters that we've covered that are like he's a slow plotting strategic guy that gets in there and pounds they're all like he gets in dot sick does like crazy rolls where he tries to kick a guy we had a crazy horse jumping around like a fucking maniac throwing him in the n-word yeah screaming shit putting a guy on top of him and then posing for the camera. Like, all the guys here have, like, that wrestler personality. They all do. Like, they all have this crazy character that they've invented, and it's so fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And those are the criminals. It's junior behavior. It's junior behavior. The rest of them are all just, like, regular dudes who go and fight, and you don't hear shit about them. Because they go fight, then they go home like normal people. There was a George St. Pierre's name in a newspaper no no they're not fighting in russian hotel lobbies or anything or japanese hotel lobbies like the one guy and choking each other out backstage when no one's paying them to how stupid is that posing on
Starting point is 01:08:37 instagram and begging for money yeah he's in the fucking woods somewhere. Jesus Christ, that's felony there. That's Charles Bennett. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's just crazy. So he's pretty crazy here, this guy, Josh Grisby in the ring. And so, but so far out of the ring,
Starting point is 01:08:53 he's been pretty tame. Yeah, we haven't heard shit from him. He's been quite, I mean, he's 19 years old. He hasn't really had a chance to do much.
Starting point is 01:08:59 He's at his parents house. All he's done literally is go from the eighth grade to fighting. So he has had no opportunity to fuck up other than it's hard to act a fool in your mom's house that's the thing yeah you're very limited range of foolery you can get into there from no knickery and tom foolery that you can engage in so uh june 7 2009 he fights again so he waits from august 3rd 2008 to june 7
Starting point is 01:09:22 2009 his biggest layover yet this is is at World Extreme Cage Fighting 41, colon, Brown versus Faber 2. Oh. At least they did a fucking guy's fight. But it's the second one. Still, you don't need to do that. Yeah, this is at the Arco Arena in Sacramento. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:39 This is a big event. He fights, now this guy, by the way, I don't know if it's Jens or Jens. I'm thinking it's yens but he's from the u.s so it's probably i don't he's from chicago so i'm like what the fuck j-e-n-s uh pulver is his last name he goes by little evil yeah not little evil like spearman so he goes by little evil yeah he's like they already got there's already a little evil fuck all right just little i guess spell it out i don't fucking know i'm going by that though this guy here is a 27 19 and one career fighter he had a crazy fucking upbringing this guy he
Starting point is 01:10:10 talks about you know his mother putting guns to his head and like just what the most bat shit and but he has jens did yeah he has he has a crime and sports worthy backstory but then he didn't but he kept it together criminal with that yeah i call that in the movie positive yeah he spun it positive and he got married young and had kids and turned out to be like a good dad and wasn't a piece of shit and had a horrible environment we'll talk about something that comes up with him later as they really cross as one goes one way and one goes the other later on but at this point pulver here's 27 19 and one career fight or two total so he's a real deal fights a lot of professional fights that's 47 fights uh here uh this fight here though uh josh actually wins this fight uh uh with a submission and it goes to 13 and one so now he's 13 and one he just beat a pretty good fighter
Starting point is 01:10:58 he's fighting in large arenas he's traveling he got out of massachusetts he's doing well fighting on the same ticket as faber fighting on the same ticket as faber really up and comer i'm gonna say it now grace this is grace right here yeah he's he has reached grace he's killing it and it is quite the tumble from here boy this is like in such a short period of time he goes from wow this guy is the future to please lock him away in a hole. He's the past forever. And we never want to look at this cocksucker again. So it's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 01:11:34 The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns.
Starting point is 01:12:20 How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. And now, back to the show. June 20th, 2010. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:41 There's a world extreme cage fighting championship fuckery, whatever the hell's going on there. Step one of the downward staircase. Step one. 49, colon, Varner versus Chalarus. But number one. But number one. There's no number here. This is at the Rexall Place in Edmonton.
Starting point is 01:12:58 So we're going Canada here, baby. International. Going Alberta. It's Alberta, right? Edmonton, Alberta. Yeah, that's right. Versus L.C. Davis, who's a 23-8 career fighter. Decent fighter, actually, this L.C.
Starting point is 01:13:11 L.C. L.C. L.C. Black guy. L.C. Davis. And he's a tough-looking dude, too. He's not a tiny man. He doesn't go by Little Evil.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He looks pretty good, and he's got a good career record. 23-8's not bad. Josh wins with a technical submission. I suppose that uh the ref has to stop because they've passed out got it this was a guillotine choke wow so i'm assuming that's a well obviously he can't continue since he's not conscious he can't tap out i'm gonna go ahead and call this yeah his brain tapped out a long time ago this is uh round one two minutes 23 seconds. 14 and one now, Josh is. So he's fucking crushing it, okay? Absolutely crushing it. It's at this point where UFC is interested in him,
Starting point is 01:13:51 and he is all set to fight a guy named Jose Aldo at UFC 125. This is going to be UFC's first ever featherweight title fight here. And he says, quote, Jose aldo is one of the best fighters in the world pound for pound and you'll uh you'll see why on january 1st that's what dana white says aldo can do it all and his historic arrival in the usc as its first featherweight champion is going to set an exciting new standard josh grisby doesn't exist then he says but josh grisby is a finisher and he's got every intention of taking the featherweight title back to Boston. But he's not going to because this guy's the king.
Starting point is 01:14:28 A monster. Pound for pound. Yes. Pound for pound. That's like a template fucking statement that Dana White makes. Yeah, for every big fighter that he feels like he, yeah, whatever. But it turns out a month after this is announced, Aldo has an injury in training and has to pull out of the fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:48 So, Grisby's like, shit, this was my big chance at the title. Do I get the title now? Right. That's it. Instead, he still stays on the card and gets to fight, but he fights Dustin Poirier. Yeah. I don't know who that is. Not the champ.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Not the champ. This is not for the featherweight title here. This is January 1st, 2011. So New Year's Day, 2011. UFC 125, colon, resolution. It's at the MGM Grand in Vegas. Hold on. Colon.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Hold on. The MGM, colon, Grand, colon, Vegas. How many have there been of this? This is UFC 125. 125. Colon. We we're gonna get resolution this is it it's over right no more ufc right everybody we're disbanding after tonight doesn't know what resolution no i don't think he does at all know what resolution is this guy's name by the way that he fights this is not a good nickname if you're gonna name yourself something don't uh don't bring to mind uh a
Starting point is 01:15:45 screech from saved by the bell because his name is dustin quote the diamond poria no that is his nickname dustin the diamond poria somebody put that probably on a robe or a jacket or something yeah i'm sure he had a t-shirt made with that embarrassing shit printed on it you asshole or or he was like, Dustin's got a huge crank. I'm in. I'm in. Let's do this.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That's the story about that guy. Yeah, I don't think... He thinks fantastically huge. Is he tough, though? No. Well, if he beat you with his cock, maybe. He pulled his cock out and I believe hit somebody with it.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Well, there you go. No, he stabbed somebody. Oh, with his cock. No, with a knife. Wow, it's impressive. Oh, all right. Well, it's not as impressive. It's not as big as he thought.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Anybody can do that. Jesus. Maybe he tried to stab him with the dick and it didn't work. Maybe. And he pulled a knife. Shit, this always works. All right. Well, that's not as impressive. It's not as big as he thought. Anybody can do that. Jesus. Maybe he tried to stab him with the dick and it didn't work. Maybe. And he pulled a knife. Shit, this always works. Damn it. Poirier, Dustin the Diamond, is 23-5 career.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Wow. So this is a real deal fighter. This isn't any schlub he's fighting here. This goes all three rounds. Okay. Goes the distance. There's a unanimous decision. And Josh loses.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Oh, no. So he loses the unanimous decision. He's a unanimous decision. And Josh loses. Oh, no. So he loses a unanimous decision. He's now 14-2. But he stays in UFC. I mean, that was a new fighter that got sprung on him. Whatever. We'll give him a chance here. Can you imagine what the champ would have done to him?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Oh, that Aldo would have probably ripped his fucking head off here. Jesus. But June 4th, six months later, is UFC, the Ultimate Fighter 13 finale. Yeah. This is that card. No, again, I thought you just had resolution. It's all been resolved. Now we need a finale?
Starting point is 01:17:12 How do you have a finale post-resolution? The post-resolution resolution finale of the previously, previous issue that we had. Previously solved, right. Previously solved problem that needed resolution and now we'll finally have it after we had unclear resolution earlier enjoy four colon there's more another fucking day after that it's the longest banner ever they're gonna need one of those like tickers the words just keep scrolling you want to have hats made they're're like, no. Just forget. Have to go around and around. They charge by the letter.
Starting point is 01:17:46 No. Yeah, we're not doing that. Just forget it. So this is at the Palms Casino in Vegas. So they're casino hopping, UFC, as they do. He fights George Roop, who's a 15 and 13. R-U-U-P? R-O-O-P.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Oh, OK. A 15 and 13 career kind of journeyman fighter here. A guy that I feel like they set this up for Josh to beat this guy. I feel like that's like, let's get this up and comer who's a kid. Let's get him back on the right track because he seems like a future product. Like I said, he's like a like when you look at him, he's a he's like he's a good looking dude. He's like a guy that if he's very successful, they can use him as a marketing guy. You can market around this guy.
Starting point is 01:18:25 He's a young guy, very young, that sort of thing. God, I hate that. As an ugly man, I hate anybody that can be marketed based on face. Well, face and body. Just on appearance alone. It's not personality, I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I'd much rather be marketed by personality. Like us. Our faces aren't't. I'd much rather be marketed by personality like us. Our faces aren't shit. No, we're behind microphones. We could be furious to brush my teeth. Yeah, but I could throw acid at you tomorrow and you could be a fucking monster. You could be a Phantom of the Opera monster and you we'd have the exact same number of listeners.
Starting point is 01:18:59 They might go off. Breathe it in. Right. Be interested. It might be more interesting. They might Google me. Yeah, that's what I mean. It might be like, that's pretty weird. Let weird let's see as bad as i thought let's
Starting point is 01:19:06 see if his voice is fucked up and then they'll like the show and they'll be hooked that's what we'll do all right you're dead i'm going to get pool acid you're getting acid tomorrow i'm sorry you won't know when it's coming but it's coming motherfucker so i'm sorry jimmy it's for your own good it's for our careers all right so uh josh loses this fight by knockout from a punch to the body oh which is rare you knocked out hitting in the fucking gut body a body shot that knocks that's so rare that's usually like in boxing and like the 11th round you'll see that after a guy's been broken down and then he gets like a rib cracked and then he can't continue because he can't breathe because he's having a hard time anyway breathing uh but this is uh He's forced all the wind out of him.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah, and he's like, I can't get back. I can't get more in. Oh, God, save me. I quit. So this is round three at three minutes and 14 seconds. So now Josh is 14 and three. Wheels are coming off a little bit. Yeah, wobbly.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Just when they start to wobble, August 12, 2011, his son is born. Oh, my God. He has a son with Caitlin, his middle school sweetheart, I guess you could say, which we don't get to say very often. His daycare sweetheart. His daycare sweetheart and Joshua Jr., of course. Oh my God, really? Of course it's Joshua Jr.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Of course it is. It has to be. Of course. They have no other choice. You know, and this was the thing. Up to this point, you don't know what this guy's all about. he's just a young kid with kind of a temper he was a good fighter and then this happens and you go oh here we go he's gonna be arrested we hadn't started this show yet when i had a son and as soon as he was he's my first child my very first child was a boy
Starting point is 01:20:39 and when he was born there was no part of me that was like got a name after no got to no and i have the same fucking way no i have the same name as my dad not middle name i'm not a junior but i said this ends now yeah when i had a son like this ends now i'm not doing this again no this is not even gonna be a j that's what i did no offense to my dad but it's confusing in the house there's too many which one no that's never happening when anyone calls so uh obviously he needs but you should definitely get a partner named jimmy yeah that's that's perfect because that won't be confusing let's do that jesus christ my whole life i've been fucking having jimmy confusions you need to find somebody named ted so but the spelling will be different
Starting point is 01:21:22 completely pronounced exactly the same that should that's good and then make your twiddle hand or twitter handle jimmy but go by james that's gonna work out well then he'll go by something else and everyone will be happy no one will ever confuse it it'll be perfect so uh it's gonna be fine so joshua jr he has cemented himself now on the firm and steady path yeah the yellow brick road of nudnickery. Now, he's on the way to the castle of Oz and stupidity, and he's skipping along with a scarecrow and a lion that he's kicked in the balls or punched in the balls like we discussed earlier. Singing some terrible song.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Singing a terrible song. And then August 14th, two days later uh he stopped singing and skipping for a moment because uh he finds out that his father richard he's had an earache for a few weeks the same earache and he finally goes to the doctor uh grisby josh says quote he's not one to go to the hospital he'll just tough it out but i called and made an appointment for him and when we went they rushed him right from the ct scan Plymouth to Tufts in Boston. He didn't know what the heck was going on. Turns out they're taking him to Tufts Medical Center.
Starting point is 01:22:31 If they take you to a better medical center, that's a bad sign. We can't handle the fucked up shit you have going on in your body at the facility. We see all this equipment that looks super expensive and all these people that went to college and did residencies. They can't fix you. None of this can. You need people that went to college and did residencies, they can't fix you. No. None of this can. You need people that went to much better ones. We need more. The equipment, the everything.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I know it's bad for you to travel, right? That's how shitty we are here. You're in such bad shape, you need a car ride somewhere. You need a helicopter. You need to fly. You ever flown in a helicopter? No? Well, you're going tonight.
Starting point is 01:23:02 That's what happened. My grandmother, when she had her heart attack there, they had to fly her in a helicopter i said have you ever flown in a helicopter ground she said no i was like well you have now enjoy calm stay calm by the way stay calm by the way even though you're wow so you know i don't know so uh they they take him there for emergency surgery to remove a brain tumor that was the size of a hockey puck. And he had an earache. A little earache. His ear was bothering him.
Starting point is 01:23:29 What the fuck? There was a little something in there. I don't know what it is. Oh, it was a hockey puck. That's why he couldn't get it out. It was a hockey puck-sized tumor. He thought maybe the head of a Q-tip fell in there or something. He was like, I can't get it out.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Something crawled in my ear while I was sleeping? Is that a fucking, what is that? Is that a boll weevil? What the hell's in there? Something got in one of those water bugs from back east. I don't know what that was. And now it's a hockey puck. It's a millipede.
Starting point is 01:23:48 No, no, hockey puck, sir. That's a hockey puck-sized tumor. Pushing on your fucking ear canal. Yeah, Jesus Christ. So Josh says, quote, it was crazy. They found out it was the worst, most aggressive cancer you can have. Now he's on chemo and radiation. I'm trying to help out around the house with the baby.
Starting point is 01:24:05 It's just been crazy. So at this point, he says that he has to take a break, kind of a step back from MMA for a minute because he's got a newborn baby and a father in the hospital with cancer treatments and he's going back and forth from all that, which is understandable. This is tough. This is a tough break that honestly, obviously had nothing to do with it. You can be the biggest idiot in the world. It won't cause your father a hockey puck sized brain tumor, no matter how big of an idiot you are.
Starting point is 01:24:31 And he hasn't even really been that big of an idiot at that point. He says, though, Josh, that it was a very big wake up call for him. He said, quote, I was a mess as soon as I knew he needed brain surgery. I was just thinking it was it was his first grandson and he was just born and now with all this stuff, I want my dad to be there with his grandson. There was just a lot of stuff going through my head. Understandable. I can totally see that here. He says that he hoped to return to training soon and he has a lot of motivation to do that, but still, he's having a hard time. He says that, quote,
Starting point is 01:25:05 all I can think about is I don't want my dad to see my last two fights be losses. I want to get back in there, but I don't think I should have even fought those two fights. I should have just taken care of myself when I needed to, but I needed money. I was having a kid, so I needed to save up more money. I was fighting for the wrong reasons, which makes sense. But, I mean, he like two one fight every eight months it wasn't like he was stacking him now he's in a position with mma where it's like work like when
Starting point is 01:25:30 it's like having a piece of shit car yeah and you gotta work to fix the alternator now you're working to fix the fuel pump now you're working to fix the fucking water pump it's that's what his life is now now he's work now he's fighting to get his dad chemo treatment. It's all maintenance. Then he's got to go back and fight to get diapers. It's all maintenance. It's all, yeah, every time he comes. Life maintenance. Stress is big time, and he's only 21 years old. So that's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:25:54 It's a lot of pressure on a 21-year-old kid here. He said, now I want to get back into it, fighting, that is, and I love it again and not look at it like a job anymore. My other pre-UFC fights it wasn't like a job I was just having fun going in there doing my thing then I put out all this pressure on myself uh and the losses happen I'm looking I'm looking to get back in there as quickly as possible but not to the point where I can't go in there and have a blast like I usually do well it's fun to fight shitty fighters that you're much better at then and can go in there
Starting point is 01:26:24 and pummel them in 40 seconds and then celebrate. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. But when you actually have to work hard and like study a guy's tapes and figure out what he does and go in and train hard because it's going to be a tough battle. That's not fun anymore. Sorry. You ever seen any training? Doesn't look like a lot of fucking fun. It's bloody chess.
Starting point is 01:26:42 It looks tough. Yeah. So summer of 2012, as the year progresses a little bit, his father's starting to do a little bit better. He says, my dad is doing good. He's still in chemo, but nothing is growing back or anything. It's crazy how well he's doing right now. Thank you for all your prayers and everyone that helped us out.
Starting point is 01:27:01 He said, quote, my son's getting big. He's almost 12 months now. He's going to be a year. It's crazy, but awesome. And I love it. How many times can you describe a situation is crazy? It's crazy. It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:27:13 It's crazy, man. He doesn't have much in the way of vocabulary. We're going to find there's a lot of crazy and I don't know. Things like that. And likes a lot. A lot of commas in his speech. You know, he's just very halting. That's my fucking biggest pet peeve in life is the word like.
Starting point is 01:27:30 The constant. Yeah, good Christ. You can recommend a podcast to me, and if the first two minutes are 40 likes, I will fucking bail so fast. Well, that's just people who have no talent in broadcasting. Sorry. Or have nothing intelligent to say.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Yeah, that's the other thing. Well, they might even have something intelligent to say, but they can't get it across in this medium. Right, because they're not intelligent. Because for some reason, people think because you can go buy a fucking good microphone for $350 that that makes them a talented broadcaster. Bananas. I know where the microphone store is.
Starting point is 01:28:00 There's a guitar center near my house, so that means I'm a talented broadcaster now. Sorry, dickhead. It's going to delete the word like from my conversation it's fucking bullshit and this includes famous people who aren't like this this isn't their medium sorry you ever listen to katie couric's podcast it's a pile of shit listen to it i'm sure if it's a nightly news broadcaster an interview with a famous person she can do it much better than me but in this medium i'll kick katie kirk right in the twat i'm so much fucking better than her and so are you i'm sorry you can know in two seconds that she has no talent for this you're like oh you're a tv person it's just the way it is and not to pick on katie kirk because this goes for a hundred other people
Starting point is 01:28:41 it's not your fault katie you were brought up in a fucking medium of broadcast journalism. And you're TV, so you don't know how to present things in an audio fashion. You've never had to do it. And it goes for a ton of people, actors that do it. And some of them are really good at it. And they end up having a lot of talent for it. I listened to Alec Baldwin on a podcast all fucking day long. The fucking Queer Eye guy with the ponytail.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Jonathan Van Ness. Sarah listens to this shit all the time. Dude's hilarious's hilarious you're like this guy's fucking hilarious he's got a personality he's got a personality and he comes across in an audio format personality on the news they fire your they fire your ass you have to be very dull and on a podcast if you have a thing and it's boring nobody wants that it's fucking boring so anyway now that we've had that out of the way i had nothing to do with anything some so anyway now that we've had that out of the way i don't have nothing to do with anything now that we've offended everybody uh sorry everybody sorry katie couric not your fault but get the fuck out of my backyard sorry just just polished his adidas he can't wait yeah i did it's coming to the moon katie on the tip of my on the tip of my gazelle to the moon.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Via your vagina. That's terrible. I apologize. So, no, I don't. She still is terrible at this, and I do not take back. I love it. It's like finding out that Don Cheadle tried comedy. Knowing that he tried comedy and was fucking terrible at it, I'd lift my hands in victory every goddamn day.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I'd go on after him and crush and be like, sorry, Don. Deal with that, Donnie. Tough night, Donnie. Get back to the fucking... Take that. Get back on set. Your lines are up next.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Exactly. And then he'd do something that's way more important and good and people will love him forever and it's burned in and we go home and no one cares. And a bunch of drunk people went, that second guy was pretty funny. And so he gets praised as a genius. How long have you done this?
Starting point is 01:30:28 I get that conversation. Oh, yeah, all the time. You're like, oh, Jesus Christ. Long enough to make you laugh, fuckface. Yeah, shut up and move on. People we hate. Katie Couric, question-asking, nice people. Inquisitive people that want to know more about me.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Inquisitive people who are curious about your life. And I'm offended by it. That's how we both are. I don't want to know about your juicer. How's that? Fuck your juicer. How long have you done this? Fuck your juicer. That's how long Fuck your juicer. That's the shirt I want is the fuck your juicer shirt. That's the shirt
Starting point is 01:30:59 I want. Fuck your juicer. I don't want to know shit. Jimmy slapping a juicer out of somebody's hand. Shaking his head so august 4th 2012 yeah this is ufc on fox 4 uh colon yeah shogun versus vera i don't know on fox 4 i don't know it's so much that's that's a lot it's exhausting ufc on fox 4 colon just to try to follow it that's a yeah even like on a tv thing it's exhausting. UFC on Fox 4, colon. Just to try to follow it. Yeah. Even like on a TV thing, it's really long. It's probably longer than the program is going to be. It's at the Staples Center in LA. He fights Ronnie Yaya.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Y-A-H-Y-A. Yaya? Yeah. Ronnie Yaya. R-A-N-I is Ranny. Ranny? Ranny Yaya? Rainy Yaya?
Starting point is 01:31:44 I don't know. Rainy Yaya sounds like something a child calls his grandmother. That's Rainy Yaya. Like, why do you call her that? I started calling her that when I was like two and nobody corrected me. I couldn't speak English. I still call her Rainy Yaya. So now I'm 63, I still call her that.
Starting point is 01:32:02 When my Rainy Yaya died. Your what? The fuck is that? The what? Wait, wait. Rewind. Let's go back. Fuck the rest of this story.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yeah, never mind. Let's talk about that. This story is going to be shit compared to what you just called her. No shit. So this Grandma Yaya here, Granny Yaya, is a 25 and 9 career fighter. That's not bad. Josh, this fight goes three minutes and 15 seconds of round one. It is a submission with a north-south choke, and Josh loses again.
Starting point is 01:32:33 I don't know what a north-south choke is. I think that's a 69. That sounds horny as fuck. That sounds like a 69, where the guy on top is winning. It's something you get your arm around his neck, and the other one firmly wrapped around both his crank and his balls. I feel like that's most submission moves. That's a hell of a joke. Most submission moves are you do this, this, and this, and if with that free hand you can
Starting point is 01:32:51 reach his nutsack, latch on to it. Fucking do it. That's the north-south. Josh is now 14-4, so it's kind of falling apart on the professional side here. In the UFC, every time he faces these good competitors, he can't seem to pull a win off. That doesn't stop him, though. He's got another fight scheduled on February 16th. February 14th, he tweets.
Starting point is 01:33:11 This is at Josh Grisby, by the way. He tweets, quote, Happy V-Day to my lovely wife and child. I'll be home soon and hopefully with a fat win bonus to buy you extra flowers at UFC. So, you know, people will see it and actually notice it. As of right now, it has 11 retweets
Starting point is 01:33:30 and 5 likes. That's not terrific. He's got more retweets than likes? Very strange. I thought that was strange. And two comments also. Sounds like he's followed by bots. Probably bots or just UFC bullshit. Whatever. I don't know. So this fight is February 16, 2013.
Starting point is 01:33:46 UFC on Fuel TV 7, colon. Yeah. Barreo versus McDonald. UFC on Fuel TV 7, colon. That's a lot. Why are they putting the network in there? I mean, I get it. That's good marketing to get people to watch it.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I'm sure they sponsor the thing, too, and tie it all in. Fuel TV is like, you better put our name fucking everywhere. Seven. Fuel TV seven. They must have had six other UFCs on Fuel TV. Right. See, this is so fucking confusing. Confusing.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Stop it. There's more effort to decipher what you're fucking. Yeah, what's happening now? Jesus, you're hieroglyphic. Bullshit. You need a degree in Egyptian studies to figure out what the fuck UFC this is and what's happening. Christ almighty. So this is a UFC arena, or sorry, Wembley Arena in London.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Fantastic. So this is a huge, awesome place. He fights Andy the Little Axe Ogle. So the little comes up a lot in these smaller fighters. He's a nine and six career fighter total. But after this fight, he would lose his next four and retire. Oh, boy. So this is a last hurrah for Andy the Little Axe Ogle.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Gotcha. As the fight goes the distance. Oh? But Josh loses a unanimous decision. Unanimous again. Unanimous again. He's not good with the decisions. Nope.
Starting point is 01:34:57 So he's 14-5. So let's unpack this. Well, two days ago. No, he's got bad decisions. He's upset with his own decisions, referees' decisions. He's got a lot of issues. On February 14th, Valentine's Day, happy V-Day to my beautiful wife, and I'll be home with a fat win bonus and extra flowers,
Starting point is 01:35:18 and he's at UFC-ing, and everything's great. And then the 16th, he loses his fight, and then the 20th, they fucking UFCfc releases him wow so that's a rough week from the wow six days later he's jobless he went from sky's the limit nothing but potential to uh listen i'm sorry uh yeah i'm gonna have to go get a job at a gym somewhere and teach housewives how to grapple this sucks keep people from getting raped somewhere yeah hey fuck it that's the lord's work so uh it's february 20th 2013 and shortly after that his daughter's born oh no let's have another let's add a kid to this pile of shit too so
Starting point is 01:35:56 i don't know if he wasn't passionate and was just fighting because he needed to make money because he had kids or what the deal is. But he's having problems at that point. He's got a lot on his mind. He's forgetting to wear rubbers for sure. Yeah, that's the first thing that goes, as we all know. When you get hit in the head, that's the first thing you start forgetting. You get older eyesight's the first thing to go as you start to get brain damage, birth control, contraception, you know, retention, it just goes right out the window.
Starting point is 01:36:23 So that's his daughter's born right around then. And it's quiet for a while. He has no fights. He doesn't fight professionally for a while here. August 1st, 2014. He hasn't fought, you know, since February of 2013. So it's been a year and a half since he's fought. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:36:41 It's a lot. His dad's recovering. He's got kids. I don't know what he's doing to pay his bills at this point. August 1st, 2014, though, there's a huge, huge, huge problem here. Caitlin's mother, Karen Fava, she goes to the Middleborough Police Department to show them a picture her daughter sent her over the phone. Oh, no. This picture shows Caitlin's face with multiple bruises all over her face.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Her nose is bleeding, bruised. She's got bleeding lips, bruises all over her body. This her mother, obviously, Karen, was concerned about her welfare and the welfare of her grandchildren, obviously, who are one and three years old. So you wonder, hey, you don't want that around the kids. She calls the police to say, can you do a welfare check on my daughter? I have these pictures. So police go over to the house that day. They want to speak with Caitlin, obviously. They want to discuss her options.
Starting point is 01:37:34 And they can't force her to do anything at this point because it's a thing that happened before. And so obviously they can't force her. She has to say she wants to press charges and she wants help and that sort of thing. And they said when an officer asked her the last time Josh had hit her, she said yesterday to that. So this was a Sergeant Graham. So you're saying he didn't stop fighting. He didn't stop. No, he's been fighting.
Starting point is 01:37:58 And probably winning more fights than he had been. Yeah, he's really knocking them out now. Yeah, so they tried to speak with her she said that and then as soon as she said that uh uh josh comes to the door oh no uh josh comes to the door uh they asked to speak with caitlin alone and she stepped outside to speak with the cops the one cop asked josh to go back inside so he could speak with caitlin in private because you know you don't want him staring at her going don't say nothing bitches as the fucking cops are talking to you don't want to pull a frankie pantangeli on this fucking poor bastard
Starting point is 01:38:28 it's a godfather 2 reference they're staring them down in court or kind of like on the fucking wire when they bring stringer bring stringer bell in to stare at everybody uh in the d'angelo barksdale murder trial that starts off the first season never mind okay moving on so uh this whole thing they they do, the cops are here, they're talking to Caitlin in private. Josh is sent back inside. Cop says the first thing Caitlin mentioned was that there was guns in the house.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Cop asked where they were. She said the bedroom. So they went inside to speak with Josh and to ask him about the weapon situation. They found three handguns, two rifles, and an assault rifle in the bedrooms according to police doc every time we talk about guns someone will say that's not actually an
Starting point is 01:39:10 assault rifle i am telling you with the goddamn fucking legally it's if i don't give a fuck if in the gun community of you that's not technically an assault right i don't care either way it doesn't matter to me i'm saying police called it this the police are legally classifying it as that if you don't want to classify it as that in your own house knock yourself out but in the rest of the world it's an assault right i trust a police officer's opinion of a weapon more than i trust a fucking asshole that goes on the weekend yeah and not political i'm not we're not giving an opinion on it either way we're just saying that's what they said no don't fucking yell at us about it so anyway i don't hear that shit it's actually not an assault rifle that's not automatic well when the police report says
Starting point is 01:39:47 automatic i say automatic because i'm not gonna fucking dispute a man with a gun in his holster when i don't have one on his fucking hip on his body uh so anyway uh they find that the assault rifle and these were all in the bedrooms uh caitlin then said there was another handgun she moved from the kitchen to the porch area all of them were in containers were but none of them were properly secured ammunition was found with the guns and some of the guns were loaded uh the handgun was found on the porch it was a sig sauer 45 caliber uh was loaded with a six round magazine just hanging out on the port uh porch that's kind of a light a light fucking magazine no it's a 45 though six rounds is weak that's it's not a lot but it's still it's a 45 is pretty
Starting point is 01:40:31 rounds of 45 that's a business that's probably a lot yeah probably one of the chamber too so seven will work i think probably so uh at that point they have a three-year-old wandering around the house which is you don't want to have all these loaded weapons when they say in a container like i see it like in a cool whip you know that's what i see i saw it i saw it in a see-through one that you put cereal in and you can open the top and pour it out i saw one of those just like instead of like say dump the cheerios just in white yeah put a fucking gun in or worse put the gun in with the Cheerios. You can't even see it with the Cheerios on. It's still in the cool web. It's just buried under a pile.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Eat around the Sig Sauer. You want some of this on your pumpkin pie? Oh, I got a handgun. Is this a.45? Is this a.45 slug you put down there? What's going on? Wow. It crushed my pie, but thank you.
Starting point is 01:41:24 It hurt my tooth. uh uh they said they had there's kids here uh both the kids have access to the bedroom kitchen and porch area the cops all say uh that had unsecured uh weapons josh does have an active uh license with a with a plimpton address which is different from where he is there the cops asked him how long he lived in middle middleborough and he said since last year. So they said, well, why didn't you change your address on your license to carry? And he said he didn't know he had to. So, duh, obviously, they want to know where you are.
Starting point is 01:41:57 That's the most white privilege ever. I didn't know I had to. I thought I'd just have as many guns as I want strewn about my home unsecured and loaded with my children crawling around. That's my right as an American. I didn't know you needed to trace where I live based upon my weapon. I had no idea. You wanted to link those two together.
Starting point is 01:42:14 That doesn't make any sense. The funny part is most gun people will hate him, too, because they're like, stop doing that shit. You're giving us a bad fucking name and you're leaving shit in cereal containers out in the fucking kitchen. Get that out of your cool whip. Goddamn asshole. Yeah, stop it. Remove the stop it remove the guns now don't sell him hey don't sell him cool whip anymore he's not allowed yeah that's the thing that they'll do they'll be like you you did what with your he's not what with your gun no more cool no more cool for you not no more gun for this asshole cool whip no out so they they speak to caitlin she said she immediately began crying
Starting point is 01:42:47 like we said she said she didn't know what to do uh the cop said he told her that she has options and she has a family that cares about her mother and father and sister are all there they're all interested not there now but they were before and they called about this uh she said that he just hit her yesterday like we said uh the cop asked if she suffered any injuries, and she said she had a bump on the back of her head. He said he went over her options with her, the cop did, told her that they could seek charges against Josh for domestic assault and battery, and she could seek an emergency restraining order. He advised her that Josh would be removed from the house
Starting point is 01:43:19 and wouldn't be able to contact her if she got a restraining order. He said that both her and Josh were required to go to court on Monday. They would be required to go to court on Monday regarding the order if they did that. So they'd have to do that. She, of course, has burst into tears again, and they have a hard time calming her down, as I don't blame her at all. She finally decides to get an emergency 209A restraining order against her husband. Good girl.
Starting point is 01:43:46 This is a quickie, three-day, 72-hour. Just get out of the house, take a break. Cool off. Right. Restraining order. Realize that there's consequences for your fucking actions. Yes. She also decides to agree to temporarily give custody of her two children to her mother for right now.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Good. While they get the know just back in order here so she does want to seek the charges and a restraining order uh she completed a witness statement uh she stated that she'd been abused on the statement for approximately the last two years so basically since he stopped fighting he's been beating up on her instead about this whole thing she said she's been afraid to come forward because he has been threatened. He threatened that he would kill her and her family if she ever came forward.
Starting point is 01:44:30 And he's got guns. He's fucking crazy. He's got a big giant pit bull. He's that kind of guy that he trains to bite people and shit. We'll get into all this. Caitlin also included in her statement that her children were also present during the assaults and all that, so she put all things in there.
Starting point is 01:44:45 He was charged with multiple counts of improperly storing firearms near minors as well as assault and battery. And they arrested him. They seized the guns. He's ordered to surrender ammunitions and ammunition weapons as a condition of release if he posts bail. So you can't go back to this house now pissed off and then there's guns everywhere too uh that's probably not going to be okay let's let's take the guns out of this
Starting point is 01:45:10 two things we need to take out of here actually three two kids and all the guns that's those three things need to go and then you and then also why don't you take a fucking walk too because you're an asshole so he posts two thousand dollars bond josh, and he's released. He's not supposed to file or have any contact with Caitlin. That's the deal. That's for three days, though. August 4th, 2014, the restraining order lapses then. It's over. So she, instead of extending the restraining order like she should have, she doesn't because, quote, she thought Josh would be better.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Yeah. 72 hours, that's what it takes would be better. Yeah. 72 hours. That's what it takes to cure a two-year abuser. A two-year abuser. I mean, think about what kind of hell this fucking woman lives in with this guy around the house, too. He doesn't even work now. I mean, he might work, but it's not what he wants to do. He's miserable.
Starting point is 01:45:57 He's beating her up. The other thing, too, she's never been not even an adult. She's never even been a high school student on her own. She has been with this guy since the eighth grade. It's weird. What kind of fucking hold? I mean, this is why you shouldn't go with anybody. No.
Starting point is 01:46:14 You need to get your own experiences of becoming a person so you don't end up in this situation and go, I think he'll be better because you don't know anything else. And you're probably scared to fucking try. I would imagine. And you're probably scared to fucking try, I would imagine. And it's also a big portion of men's ego and insecurities are driving that in that women don't want to have a large number of men that they've slept with because it might make a dude feel right. Oh, you're a whore. Exactly. Fuck you, dude. You don't want a chick that hasn't fucked dudes anyway.
Starting point is 01:46:45 That's a terrible way. I could see if every Sunday they all had to come over for dinner. That would be a thing where you'd be like, look, if everyone she's ever fucked has to come over every Sunday for dinner. That would be like, dude, I'm finding myself somebody. But otherwise, what the fuck do you care? Who gives a shit? Who do you care?
Starting point is 01:47:02 Those dudes aren't in your life. Yeah, it's so stupid. Yeah, that's some insecure shit. Unless she still hangs out with each and every one of them. That's another thing. There's a problem. Yeah, well, and that goes the other way, too. If he's hanging out with her, another girl, she's not going to be happy.
Starting point is 01:47:13 So you know that that's not right. Who cares what her number is? Be thankful that she slept with a bunch of dudes and learned how to suck your dick. Just care what the last dick she sucked was. That's all. Hope it's yours. And then beyond that, shut the fuck up about it. Right?
Starting point is 01:47:27 What are we talking about? That's what it is. And vice versa, ladies. God damn it. Let's do that. So Josh, that's the truth. Josh returns to their home in Middleborough because they're going to be a happy family now. They have a white picket fence literally and everything.
Starting point is 01:47:41 It's on Lovell Street in Middleborough. The children, though, stay with Caitlin's parents at this point, which is nice. picket fence literally and everything it's on low level street in middleborough uh the children though stay at with caitlin's parents at this point which is nice and now back to the show hey everybody just gonna take a quick break from the show to tell you a little bit more about blue apron blueapron.com. Oh, Blue Apron is fantastic. Blue Apron delivers farm-fresh ingredients and step-by-step recipes to your door. The number one meal delivery service in the United States. Get your two-person meal plan, your family meal plan, your wine plan.
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Starting point is 01:49:21 They're going to white picket fence. They're going to, you know, I mean, he just got out of jail. So, you know, he's going to probably be sweet flowers. Maybe, you know, something will they're gonna white picket fence they're gonna you know i mean he just got out of jail so you know he's gonna probably be sweet flowers maybe you know something i'll make you some dinner um ars yeah well here you go honey a bunch of clips just brought her a fucking bowl of cool whip with fucking loaded with weapons three banana clips in it look i got you a banana split it's for your ak baby for your ak sweetheart so uh i will talk about what happened during the course of this romantic evening but it results in uh caitlin uh at night after it gets dark and everything dressed in her underwear running out of the house bleeding uh dressed in her underwear and a black tank top that's all she has uh she
Starting point is 01:50:05 throws open her neighbor's porch uh on looking for a place to hide so her next door neighbor sees her neighbor come in bloody in her underwear crying over there uh she says you know she told her neighbor uh he's after me he's gonna find me he said he's gonna kill me so uh minus the blood and the crying like all that shit the rest of that's a hot story well the rest of that's a penthouse letter it's like i was sitting on my porch the other night and a woman and an attractive woman burst through my screen door in her underwear and said take me in your house now that doesn't happen that sounds awesome no that only happens if they're being beat up next door and they're looking to you for help. And then hopefully you still got the fucking collar and dog.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Yeah, that's fucked up bad. So the neighbor quickly brings her inside. This is a woman. She brings her inside, shuts off all the lights so he doesn't see them in there and calls 911 immediately. So that's good. Good on everybody. The police show up.
Starting point is 01:51:00 They say that her Caitlin's hair is disheveled. She had makeup running all down her face from crying police said they see the back of her right thigh that she has blood all over it and caitlin says oh that's from that's from my dog buddy okay buddies of their pit bull uh what a pal she well she reported that her husband josh had the dog bite her had him had the dog bite her. Had him. Had the dog. The dog's trained to bite, and he sicked the dog on his wife. What a piece of shit. Complete piece of shit. Well, he didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:51:31 No, I mean, shit, it's the dog. They told me not to hit her. Hey, that's what happened, so I didn't. Caitlin, at this point, was holding her head and her right arm and wrist. She said it really, really hurt. She was unable to write out a written statement because her arm was so messed up what the fuck she was they said she was hysterically crying uh they had state caitlin kind of stay from the beginning talk tell us what happened she told them all about the uh you know getting the restraining order and kind of taking them through
Starting point is 01:51:58 the whole story uh she said today uh she was supposed to extend the order, but she didn't. Like they like we said, she said this. It started out. The fighting was about wood that was in the car. It was a wood pile of wood, some sort of wood that was in the car. And Josh was asking her where it was. So Caitlin said they were they both went outside and he got mad and started yelling at her to get in the fucking house. Get in the fucking house because he couldn't find the wood or he didn't like where the wood was. Or she was supposed to know some abusive shit that he just wanted to make up.
Starting point is 01:52:33 And like they said, he makes up reasons to get himself psychologically jacked up before a fight. There's a reason why I said that, and this is fucking why. You didn't get the wood out of the car? You calling me a faggot? Yeah, you called me a faggot. Tommy, let's go outside. Caitlin, come on. I'm going to kick your ass.
Starting point is 01:52:47 So this fucking asshole, she gets scared and she ran down the street in her underwear and hid under a bush and tried to hide from him in the neighborhood under a bush in the dark. This poor woman has to like a fucking animal. She has to hide out there from a predator. Literally, that's what this is going on. Yeah, this is a legit animal situation here uh so uh josh ends up finding her in this bush too he ends up hunting her down which must have been scary as he's walking up he then began punching her in the head right away grabbed her yanked her out from the bush and started punching her repeatedly in the fucking head and then drags her back
Starting point is 01:53:25 to their house and pulls her inside. So while walking her by the car, he punches the car too and fucks up the car because he's a fucking asshole. And while they were on the deck going into the house, he kicked out a few of the deck
Starting point is 01:53:41 posts, like the little post things that come down in the deck not the lattice but like the little spindle things he kicked those out uh he kicked those out too he's all pissed off obviously uh this is about wood this isn't about wood obviously but it's this is about a lunatic that can't keep his fucking attitude no he can't he has to he has to take rage out somewhere uh he got her inside the house and kept punching her and kicking her, she said, over and over and over. What is he so mad about? He's beating him, beating her, beating her.
Starting point is 01:54:11 That's what I mean. This is about his life not turning out right and him possibly having brain damage and every other thing that has nothing to fucking do with her. She hasn't caused this or done this to him or anything like that. I don't remember her causing any brain damage to him. I don't know that she has some some special magic that gives her her his dad cancer that's what i mean she didn't do any of this she didn't do any of this she didn't cause him to be a jerk off as a kid she didn't cause any of this give him two beautiful kids that's it so he's yelling at her quote you want me to fucking kill you is what he's yelling at her while he's beating her apparently
Starting point is 01:54:43 and also told her that he was going to get someone to kill her father wow so this is what uh i don't because she likes her dad so he's gonna kill her dad obviously so he's on the ground and uh she's on the ground and josh was pulling caitlin up by the hair when she's on the ground he kept punching her she said everywhere and uh she finally made it into the bathroom uh she said she pretended to go to the bathroom and had her phone but then josh while she was in the bathroom had buddy the dog uh sick her and bite her behind her right thigh uh puncturing the skin then josh choked the dog out not killed the dog but choked the dog unconscious after that this is why the dog bites you dickhead no he trained the dog to do this and then this is how he gets the dog to stop
Starting point is 01:55:32 is he chokes that this is he said he does this all the time what this is what when he's training the dog he'll get the dog to latch on and attack something and then have to choke it out to get it to stop this is fucking insane this is fucking insane. This is fucking insane. That's ridiculous. This man has children. He has fucking children. I'm so happy these kids are in this girl's mother's house. James, that man owns guns. He owns guns and has children.
Starting point is 01:55:53 He's a fucking psychopath. Holy shit. What an asshole. So he choked the dog out and then took her cell phone to check to see if she had called for help or was calling for help, which is definitely illegal, which is the, you can add that to the mountain of fucking shit. At this point, she managed to get out of the bathroom while he was looking at the phone
Starting point is 01:56:12 and she ran down the street and ran and hid. They went in with the neighbor and all that. So Caitlin said about two weeks ago, Josh did the same thing with Buddy, the dog and had her bite her in the right breast and back of her right side of her left thigh. She had bruising and scars from that that they saw that were clearly bite marks.
Starting point is 01:56:33 She reported that Josh is always choking the dog, choking out the dog for some reason. This is fucking nuts. He like practices choking out on this poor fucking animal. And I'm disgusted with this motherfucker right now. In addition to beating the shit out of his wife for no fucking reason and those are general i mean they can be great dogs this is why those dogs are pieces of shit eric is a great dog my in-laws have two awesome kids they're fucking beautiful they're the sweetest dogs in the world you know if you don't train them to fuck if you don't train them to bite people and then choke them out afterwards we had two when i was a kid fuck one of them was a piece of shit that my stepfather used to like rile up and beat
Starting point is 01:57:08 on and fucking make him a shit dog break the fence and go and kill neighborhood cats then we had another one that was a sweetheart and somebody joey had killed a cat and somebody threw poison over the fence for joey and my and the other one rocky got it that. That's fucked up, man. Well, if that's not depressing enough, let's get back to this, which is just fucking awful here. Jesus Christ. So she's over at the neighbor's house. The neighbor gives Caitlin a pair of sweatpants to put on because she's in her fucking underwear. She said they've been married for three years. Then he asked about the kids.
Starting point is 01:57:43 They said they have Josh Jr. and one-year-old grace uh she also said that the the kids have uh that are with the parents at this point uh because of josh's violence james he has a james jr no he has a joshua josh jr and a grace yes i was when i saw that too i was so fucking mad that his daughter wasn't born first, because that was like right around. That's where I could have made that grace. He has a daughter named Grace. All right. Now, you don't know how bad I wanted that, but he was already past grace.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Still pretty amazing. By the time his daughter was born, he had lost all those UFC fights, and it was no fucking fun anymore. He was past grace. He already set it up. Yeah. I was really, he had lost all those UFC fights, and it was no fucking fun anymore. He was past grace. He already set it up. Yeah, I was really, really hoping. Fingers crossed. Damn it.
Starting point is 01:58:31 I wish I didn't give a shit about being accurate, because I could have just made it. I may believe they were the other way around, but nope, can't do it. I credit it as your comedic fucking ability that you didn't rely on bullshit to make a story. What are you going to do? uh uh the uh the mother karen pulls up at this point uh karen asked caitlin where the dog was caitlin said that she didn't know and uh they were gonna go find him at the house uh caitlin was getting into the ambulance at this point she told her mother to go find the dog she likes the dog loves the dog she doesn't blame the dog uh karen the mother says that she wants to uh she wants the uh the animal control to take custody of buddy uh since it's not uh i'm sorry says she wants it hasn't bitten caitlin more than
Starting point is 01:59:17 once and she wants to basically she wants to get custody of this dog the mother has also uh bred pit bulls and shit in the past and she says she's very good with these dogs. It's not the breed, it's the owner. It's not the breed. Yeah, most of the time that's what it is. They had her fill out a statement again with a bandage on her hand and try to figure something out. They had the neighbor,
Starting point is 01:59:38 Ashley, did a report. Also at this point they say that the neighbor says that she thinks that Caitlin and Josh have pigs in their basement. Oh my God. So they go looking, let's find out what's in this fucking basement here. This basement's important because she's going to, and according to her, it plays a very large role in their marriage.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Oh my God. Uh, it's fucking amazing. So, uh, these two police go here, they go find Karen and, and, uh, and Kim who are the mother and sister. Uh, they're sitting in the kitchenette area Karen said the house was open and she found buddy inside in his crate shaking so he was freaked out obviously he was made or ready they said he was just like hovering like huddled and shaking because he had a Jesus this poor dog just choked out choked out he had to bite his own like that's
Starting point is 02:00:22 fucked up man she said said uh they said they asked karen if she knows if caitlin had any pigs she said yes they're somewhere down in the basement so now there's pigs in a basement which is a not a good snack at all uh much better in a blanket than a basement so they go down to the basement white trash that's very white trash basement pigs in a bay there's pigs in a basement buddy that's a good stuff pigs in a blanket no it's pigs in a bay there's pigs in a basement buddy that's good stuff pigs in a single wad it's very good it's good you're gonna like it uh it's buried under the double wow you're gonna like it it's good don't don't get me wrong now they said they did find pigs it was a cluttered basement down there uh they walked down it was very cluttered and messy they walked over to a cabinet
Starting point is 02:00:59 thinking it was the pigs and opened it and it contained 11 marijuana plants growing under heat lamps uh-oh uh there was another taller cabinet that had a light coming from it they opened that they had another nine plants growing inside there so they did find the pigs behind a half door and observed two big teacup pigs back there big uh big animal control took custody of the pigs and the dog buddy uh so also they called more people to say hey we got a weed growing operation here they were in plain view they saw planting soil miracle grow plant food watering devices timing and temperature gauges like he had a good little operation going on here uh they found on the table a minigun uh which was actually a lighter and which isn't bad right next to it
Starting point is 02:01:41 was a plastic knotted bag that contained a white powdery substance and a U.S. Magnum scale. They told them at this point to go upstairs and get Caitlin some clothes and shit. Because she's going to be arrested now. Yeah, do that shit. Well, no, no, they're not blaming her at this point. They go upstairs. They end up getting a...
Starting point is 02:02:00 The mother gets a... Or the sister, I'm sorry, gets a gym bag full of types of ammunition, all sorts of gun shit. Then brings that to the cops, too, because he was supposed to turn that ammunition over and never did, which was a problem. So they took that all into custody. reported that Caitlin told the mother and told the neighbor that Josh was home before the thing expired, actually on the 3rd of August. This is a violation of the order.
Starting point is 02:02:41 So they started booking Josh at that point for everything and that. They confiscated his iPhone with otter box uh and told him they were going to get a search warrant for his phone to retrieve all of his text messages from his wife because they had had quite the text exchange that we'll talk about in just a moment not really exchange it's mainly one-sided god will say it's uh him saying terrible shit to his wife that's fucking horrible uh yeah so also they hear later on that kim uh calls the police kim is the sister calls the police and says that her and her mother were just leaving the hospital they said that the hospital section 12 caitlin due to being mentally unstable from the abuse so she's so fucking unstable she's in the mental ward of the hospital because she can't even keep it together.
Starting point is 02:03:25 That's what this man did. That's what he did. They said they believed her right wrist was broken and that she suffered a concussion. She was still waiting on CAT scans and X-rays when the when the sister left the hospital. They did also conduct a field test of the white powdery substance and cocaine. So he's on a bunch of coke and angry and all this shit yeah this is all makes sense growing weed has pigs yeah well they weighed the gram on his they weighed the they weighed it on his scale too let's might as well use his scale it was 14 and
Starting point is 02:03:56 0.9 grams with the scale so it's probably a heavy ziploc bag packaging with a knot so we're gonna say it's a half ounce of coke he's got it's a lot it's a half ounce probably 9.9 grabs a bag even if it was like a flimsy bag not the ziplock i meant well those shitty the sandwich bags that you'd have to tie instead of zip those are like less than a gram the other ones are like two grams add some fucking weight 2.3 ish we'll say i don't i don't know how i know that just a bad drug dealer i've never i've never i've never done anything that has to do with that so let's talk about these text messages here uh these text messages uh these are more like death threats wow uh these are from the last week of their lives here uh one quote you're fucking dead you by the way you are as you are of course you're fucking dead and if you even try and bring my kids into it uh the worse
Starting point is 02:04:45 it will be for you and if you try to make a make a scene i'll choke you unconscious and smash your throat and if you get worse and run uh run around after i'm going to um after i'm going if you go worse and run around after i'm going to let buddy have at you and i'll walk out of the room wow that's what he says. Those are the threats. Hard to read because there's no, uh, there's no punctuation at all. So I'm trying to figure out where one sentence ends and one begins. People are so lazy with text messages. They are.
Starting point is 02:05:12 And this, and he's also a psychopath. So that doesn't help either. The ramblings of a fucking psychopath. He says, quote, uh, uh, don't, he spells something wrong. I don't know what he's trying to say. Don't something you whore is his first line. Don't something you whore. That's all you think about.
Starting point is 02:05:29 You're a fucking scumbag piece of shit who I'm going to enjoy choking to death. My Christ. Wow. Then he says as a follow up as an encore to that gem, he says, quote, you better not be bluffing about cops because I don't joke. You're dead when I see you literally he actually did an ellipses there
Starting point is 02:05:48 to you're dead when I see you dot dot dot literally no punctuation ever except for that he wanted to make his fucking point quote I don't care I'm going to beat you and throw you to buddy you're dead wow so this is what he sent I like how he's like I've seen 12 angry men and I don't want you misconstruing
Starting point is 02:06:04 that I'm just angry right now I'm not he's like, I've seen 12 angry men and I don't want you misconstruing that. I'm just angry right now. I'm not saying you're dead. I am. You're fucking, you're legit. Literally, literally like I am going to murder you with my hands.
Starting point is 02:06:12 I'm going to choke the life out of you and have a dog bite. You will not breathe again. Never. And then buddy will eat you. Oh yeah. So he says this now, uh, the charges against him,
Starting point is 02:06:22 uh, are assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, assault and battery, improper storage of firearms, possession of ammunition without a license, threats to commit a crime, malicious damage to a motor vehicle, intimidation of a witness, an attempt to procure another to commit perjury. Also, they end up charging him with some more shit later, like animal abuse and shit like that. Her father, Joe, says that Caitlin came back to the house after she left the hospital. She had a broken wrist and a concussion. He said, quote, You read about stories in newspapers. We're not used to anything like this.
Starting point is 02:06:51 There's no winners in this. They said that Caitlin never told him of any abuse. He said, quote, I thought something was odd. I would just ask if everything was OK and she would say everything is fine. She wouldn't tell me because she feared I would be killed. Everything was OK. And she would say everything is fine. She wouldn't tell me because she feared I would be killed. Some of the details that they said in the court and watching somebody come out that I've laughed with and I've ate dinner with that hurts, too. Yeah. So I can imagine the neighbor, Ashley Gallagher, the one that she ran to that Caitlin ran to said that the you know, she would see the bruises sometimes. And Caitlin would tell this Ashley Gallagher that she tripped or that she hurt herself
Starting point is 02:07:26 somehow. You know, you know, you know how that happens. She said, quote, When the marks were more consistent, I said, You know, you don't have to lie to me. I'm your friend. She said, I told her it's hard to leave and it's hard to start over, but I'm here for you. So she had people trying to help her, which is at least some comfort.
Starting point is 02:07:42 She also said the neighbor said the community is rallying behind Caitlin. She said a contractor has offered to fix up parts of Caitlin's home, which have been undergoing renovations and have kind of stopped. True white trash fashion and renovation. Halfway done. Yeah. Others have donated halfway. That's what it was.
Starting point is 02:07:58 No cabinets. Oh, shit. You had half your drywall up in a bathroom. Oh, that's terrible. The worst. There's pipes in the wall. Other people have donated. I'll get to it.
Starting point is 02:08:07 I'll get the other one. The good one. Don't stop there. Just keep going. Keep going. There's another one down there. It's just we need all of them done. I want my guests shitting where I shit.
Starting point is 02:08:16 No, no. No. They've donated diapers, food and other items here. The neighbor said the community is 100 percent behind her. She said she's happy she was on that porch that night this ashley she said caitlin might not be alive if i wasn't this lady really pats herself on the back for standing on a porch and calling 9-1-1 i'm really glad i had that palm all that really glad i was just had to have that smoke that joint out there she said quote i feel
Starting point is 02:08:40 as if uh though as if i'd been asleep that, this would have been a much different story. I was meant to be awake that night. Stop inserting yourself in the fucking story. Somebody tell whoever gives keys to the city about me. Yeah, please, because I'm ready for one. Boy, I'm a prime candidate. I'm awake all the time. That's what it is. All the time.
Starting point is 02:08:56 That's what it is. I stay up late sometimes. I'll help a neighbor. So throw me that key. You know what? How many more times am I going to be awake and a bloody person is going to run by and need help? And I'll call 911 every fucking time. Every fucking time.
Starting point is 02:09:08 You can't stop me. No one can stop me. You know how many horror movies I've seen where the people just don't open the door? I open the door. I never sleep. Everybody's welcome. I never sleep. My door is always unlocked also.
Starting point is 02:09:21 I have the Statue of Liberty's quote above my door. Above my door. I keep it unlocked. Also, a trail of food leading in. It's a nice trail of food. I use a fun-sized Snickers bar. Fun-sized Snickers bars. Sometimes I leave a whole turkey out there.
Starting point is 02:09:38 It happens. People come. I also get a lot of cats, but that's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Abused women and cats. Those are the two things I really get. That's what stays here. So, October 10, 2014, of cats but that's gonna happen it's gonna happen it's gonna happen abused women and cats those are
Starting point is 02:09:45 the two things that stays here so uh october 10 2014 uh she he is now josh is now facing more charges these include animal cruelty uh more assault and battery with dangerous weapon which is a dog now in addition to other things that he hit her with uh also six counts of witness intimidation uh from august 18th to uh august 8th to the 18th uh he also committed two counts of witness intimidation from August 18th to August 8th to the 18th. He also committed two counts of tampering with a record for use in an official proceeding and one count of attempting to procure another to commit perjury. He's trying to get people to lie. He's trying to get rid of text records. He's trying to do shit like that.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Not great. Things aren't going well for him here. It gets worse while this isn't for him for like an incredibly long stretch you know what i mean like with the drugs with the oh absolutely there's so much the pigs alone is the beatings of this woman some sort of violence it's crazy it's the whole thing's fucking nuts why would you want pigs in your basement i have no i'm not in your basement outside or something people keep them inside i so stupid. Not in your basement, not outside or something. People keep them inside, I know.
Starting point is 02:10:46 I don't know. I think it's a cool pet. It's kind of fucked up to keep them in a- Like trapping it downstairs? Yeah, yeah. That's animal abuse. Just a little pen in a basement? Yeah. That sounds like it sucks.
Starting point is 02:10:53 But August 10th, 2014, Buddy, the bull terrier, the pit bull here, he's probably, they're saying, possibly going to get put down. Oh, no. They're saying that an animal cruelty expert from the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals for PETA said that the alleged mental and physical trauma the dog has endured. The euthanizing buddy might be the best thing for him. He said, quote, There's a point where euthanasia could be the best outcome for buddy. After all, this dog has gone through euthanasia. Isn't the worst thing that could have happened to him?
Starting point is 02:11:23 She's already gone through the worst that he could go through. Jesus. Peter. Fuck, man. I thought Peter was for the ethical treatment. What is this? I'd like to see what they say of death row inmates. Listen, he's been through the worst already.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Just stick a needle in his arm while he sleeps. Fuck, man. Wow. Karen, the mother, Caitlin's mother, said she's hoping Buddy wouldn't have to be euthanized. She said Buddy's a good dog and was a gentle dog and loving to the kids and to Caitlin. She said, quote, Josh made him afraid and he listened. When he wasn't around, Buddy was a family dog to Caitlin and the kids. He was gone all day.
Starting point is 02:11:55 And when she was home all day with the kids and the dog, there was never a problem. They said that. As far as I'm concerned, that's a great dog. He's a cool dog. Yeah, he listens. That's a good dog. The man tells him, eat somebody that you love. And it does. And it does concerned that's a great dog he's a cool dog yeah he listens that's he's a good dog the man tells him eat somebody that you love and it doesn't it does it that's a loyal it's a loyal dog man uh this woman said that she raised buddy as a puppy because she bred and
Starting point is 02:12:14 trained these bull terriers or pit bulls for 11 years uh she said she can train buddy to compete in dog shows and said that she uh would never be able to do that with an aggressive or a vicious dog that's just like that temperamentally. She said, quote, I bred him and brought him to shows. He was a champion dog. You can't have a dog with a bad temperament compete in shows. The judges need to open their mouths and look at their teeth. Fair enough.
Starting point is 02:12:36 They said there's no definitive plan for the dog. No, you know, he's quarantined right now. There's no definitive plan. They said they're going to have a dog trainer evaluate him and said that he's not a bad and vicious dog. Like we said, the mother said, I would want him to go with someone that was a professional trainer to work with the dog. So that's that's what's going on there. Now, let's find out what Caitlin thinks about this whole thing, because, I mean, after this last bout, she can't be as I think he's going to get better. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:13:05 She says that she loves her husband. She says, quote, My husband's a great father and my kids miss him so much. She said, It's so hard. My son's birthday is tomorrow. It's just rough. She said they've been talking by telephone nearly every day while he's been in jail. Also, he's being held on like $200,000 bail, by the way. So he's in the joint for a while.
Starting point is 02:13:26 She said it's sad because they're making it out to be way crazier than it was. No, they're not. She also says, they said that this is a reporter that was interviewing her, said there was a visible bruise on her upper left arm and puncture wounds on her legs that you could see. She said that she got a spray tan just so she could cover up the day before. She said she went to Walmart the other day and I was sitting there and I noticed everyone staring at me. Yeah. That's when you know life's fucked up.
Starting point is 02:13:52 That's fucked up. Yeah. People at Walmart are staring at you. That's, yeah, you know, that's a problem. Well, you might, that just might mean that you were the only one there that's taken a shower in the last four days. That's one or one or the other option. You're either fucking
Starting point is 02:14:05 like the queen or something. Which means you're a six. Or you're like a negative 30. Or you're a negative 30. Now this poor woman though, she can't even go to... And who knows if they were looking at her, she just felt like everyone knows because that's how I would feel. That's rough. She's got dog bites
Starting point is 02:14:22 on her thighs. They were probably trying to figure out the kind of dog was that. Is that a German Shepherd? What is that? What do you think that is? He said, tick hound? You think that? She said, quote, it's about his name with the UFC. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:14:34 It's about his name with the UFC. Is that a blue tick? Jesus. It's not Caitlyn Grisby with my picture getting domestically abused. I would like to see how many domestic abuse cases happen in Middleborough. How they don't get any of this attention how come it's only me because you got beat up by a ufc fighter she also thinks that her husband's aggression may be a result of concussions he suffered i don't disagree that's what he said i told she said i told him today that he needs to be evaluated with a cat scan to see what's going on up there they're gonna see fucking tumbleweeds
Starting point is 02:15:02 blowing through there uh she said, yes, tick hounds. She said, yes, what he did was wrong, that it is wrong to put your hands on a girl. And I understand. And I know that, she said, but he's a good person. Then she downplayed everything. She said, quote, behind closed doors, everyone has a fight. Maybe not that far, but everyone's going to fight. Every marriage has its problems.
Starting point is 02:15:24 Does that mean you give up on it? When they chase you down the street, yank you from a bush by your hair and pummel you and have their dog bite you, yeah, you give up on it. He had a dog bite you so frequently he had to choke it the fuck out. Let's say, I feel horrible for Caitlyn, obviously, and no one deserves this, but she is a very, very, very strong contender for the 2018 shana mayfield award award for the most supportive wife in in circumstances that don't warrant it how do you apologize for a man's actions well through blood in your she's gonna win a scummy this one big time this poor girl holy fucker poor woman christ uh yeah she says this is what happens when you're 13 and you start dating a man you stay with him your whole life and you're so fucking wrapped up in the man that you can't take a hint of a being
Starting point is 02:16:11 you were punched yeah you were beaten yeah you can't get to to fuck it how do you not get to fuck it by now how how how do you not throw your hands up and go i'm taking the kids fuck it we're going that's a 13 they got together when they're 13 that's got to have something to do with it still wearing hannah montana pjs during this interview she he's hanging she's standing next to his brother hanging out there uh his brother said quote no one can picture joshua doing this the family can't picture him doing this i can't picture the scene that was painted and obviously the family loves her basically i think she's full of shit but i mean we're still supporters. Standing right next to her.
Starting point is 02:16:46 Yeah. We can't picture it because none of us have any creativity in our brains. We see a bloodied fucking woman that says he did it. We can't picture it. Can't do it. She also says, quote, I want my dog back. She said she wants the dog back. She said that that's not his fault.
Starting point is 02:17:03 She said that she's looking to God to get her through everything. She said why she considers staying with her husband. And she said, quote, I love him. I do love him. I can get past that if he can get help. I know it can get better because I know who he is. Yes, a crazy person. We're Southies, goddammit.
Starting point is 02:17:22 We're Southies. Ride or die, motherfucker. So August 20th, 2014, she puts out a GoFundMe campaign for her rent. She said that her children are in her mother's custody. Her dog is fucking locked up. Her husband's locked up. Everyone's locked up. She's got pigs and weed to sell.
Starting point is 02:17:40 She's got pigs and weed and coke and guns are everywhere. She said, quote, hi, this is on her go fund me hi my name is caitlin grisby and i started this uh fund and hopes for my family to pay bills and so my kids and myself can keep our home while we recover from this domestic abuse i was a stay-at-home mom and now i'm left with my two kids to support and i'm in need of help to pay my bills and mortgage till i find a find myself a job and i hate asking in this time but i but i need to do this for my family. My kids don't deserve this situation. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I can do all this through Christ who strengthens me. And I will thank you for your love and support. Yes, it is gofundme.com. In Christ. So if we got 45s in fucking Cool Whip, we've got pigs and weed. We're super.
Starting point is 02:18:27 Did I mention Jesus? We're so I have a personal real tight relation. As a matter of fact, we sell them Coke. Did I mention that we sell them weed? We have an ounce for him. He said, quote, she said, quote, I never deserve to have the children taken from me. I'm a good mom, which she might be. You can go to get GoFund.com slash grisby uh hyphen
Starting point is 02:18:47 family uh they said there uh she said that she at that point she was four thousand dollars behind on mortgage and uh she's fucked basically the gofundme still up is it really and she reached uh third one thousand thirty dollars of her five thousand dollar goal wow that's all that ever got reached i'm gonna give her 50 bucks I feel terrible for this woman right now. People, maybe give her a couple bucks. I'm going to do it, and I'm going to sign it. Don't go back. Yeah, please don't.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Now, MMA fighters start weighing in on this, and they start saying, this is fucking funny, because this is the same time War Machine shit was coming out in 2014, which, don't worry, we'll talk about fucking War Machine. We'll get there. One guy says, Luke Rockhold, I don't worry we'll talk about fucking war machine we'll get there uh one guy says luke rockhold i don't know who that is but that's his name rockhold and you're an mma fighter he says i mean it's stupid to link that kind of thing to mma he started his statement
Starting point is 02:19:34 with i mean i mean come on that's you know that's like a smirk and i mean jesus he's shoulder shrugged i mean give me a fucking break it's stupid to link that to mma i mean you've got football player another i mean yeah i, you've got football players, another I mean. I mean, you've got football players and other people getting away with murder and shootings and gang bangs. I don't think he meant to say that.
Starting point is 02:19:51 No. They're getting away. Murders and shootings and gang bangs are way different things. If it's voluntary, one, I suppose, could be a beautiful experience for all involved if they like it.
Starting point is 02:20:01 The rest of them, nothing. What he said was, I mean, we have Aaron Hernandez because that's who he meant. That's who he meant. That's who he meant. He didn't mean anybody. The rest of them, nothing. What he said was, I mean, we have Aaron Hernandez, because that's who he meant. That's who he meant. That's who he meant. He didn't mean anybody else. At that point, too. He said, they're putting a microscope on us for a couple of delinquents in our sport.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Come on. You're putting the microscope on the NFL for one, you dick. No shit. Then he said, there's a lot of punks anywhere in life, and they're going to be who they are. Then he said, there's a lot of educated people in MMA and a lot of uh sharp very intelligent people no there's not he went a little far there this guy i want to hang out with you flew a little too close to the sun there luke rockhold uh tyron is a dummy he's a dummy tyron uh ron woodley said quote yeah to be honest our world in general is pretty
Starting point is 02:20:45 fucked up place to be right now i'm looking at the internet and i'm seeing all this riot and stuff and freaking overseas wars and domestic violence and police brutality he tried to lump that in with just the craziness of the world that a particular guy in your particular business beats the shit out of his particular wife the fuck out of here. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a war in Iraq and shit. Yeah, you know how it goes. And people get beat up. Things happen all over the place. There's a lunatic in North Korea.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Did you hear about that? Fuck, man. So, Jesus Christ. This is awesome. This is crazy. Wait till you guys find out about the election in two years. Oh, you're going to hate it then. That's going to be, you're going to go, what?
Starting point is 02:21:23 So he pleads not guilty in October. They're saying at this point, though, she's not really willing to testify against him. So that's kind of a deciding factor whether the case is even going to go forward, because they said it's going to be very hard to convict him if the one witness isn't saying that she's a witness and it's just other people. Yeah. just other people yeah they said uh this is uh the district attorney here said quote in massachusetts there's something called a marital privilege where a person cannot be compelled to testify against their spouse uh which is interesting if the witness wants to invoke their marital privilege uh that witness is uh no longer able to uh no longer available to them and then the district attorney has to determine whether they have enough evidence to move forward.
Starting point is 02:22:05 Yeah. She said the, he said the alleged victim in this case has recanted what occurred, has done everything to indicate she wants to be a family together. She wants to be with him. So that's tough at that point. The district attorney said, quote,
Starting point is 02:22:18 there have been multiple call phone calls from the defendant while incarcerated to the alleged victim in which he tells her to destroy evidence, such as emails, pictures, text messages. Even after multiple discussions about how he injured her and how he was sorry and how he would behave better, he told her on two separate occasions to sign an affidavit saying nothing happened and to give those affidavits to the district attorney, her office, and to the court. So, wow.
Starting point is 02:22:47 attorney uh her office and to the court uh so wow uh they also uh the judge they the district district attorney asked the judge to enact a no contact order between him and his wife and the judge denied it and said quote i'm not going to order that if they want to talk that's up to them october 2014 they go on dr phil what this is when you know it's gone get the fuck out of this is the craziest fucking this is i advise everyone to watch dr phil what this is when you know it's gone get the fuck out of this is the craziest fucking this is i advise everyone to watch dr phil only for this episode because i hate dr phil we've talked about him a million fucking times he's the worst this one you're actually on his side where you're like man dr phil boy uh the show how white trash are they from walmart to dr phil yeah well that's classier than Jerry Springer.
Starting point is 02:23:26 It's a 2014 version of a classy Jerry Springer. They showed the pictures of her with bumps and bruises and all that. Josh says he could not speak. By the way, this is via satellite from jail. He's doing this interview. She's there live. Her mother's there on Dr. Phil, not in jail. He said he couldn't speak about how
Starting point is 02:23:45 she got those injuries because he had a quote open case uh then he said quote my mother-in-law is the one who called the cops on me she's trying to take my children away from me because she has some sort of control issue she has some sort of control issue my mother-in-law is trying to ruin my reputation because it makes me look like a violent person because i'm a professional fighter all right so it looks like i like to hit and beat up people my mother-in-law is trying to ruin my reputation because it makes me look like a violent person because i'm a professional fighter all right so it looks like i like to hit and beat up people my mother-in-law is trying to ruin my life so mother-in-law beat the fuck out of her daughter and then you did it and then train the dog to bite her yes because she is a trainer she knows how to do it uh now caitlin yeah caitlin um this is on national fucking television this is unreal admits that he hit her okay then she starts making excuses on tv this is the saddest fucking dude this is so sad you just want to reach out
Starting point is 02:24:35 and grab her by the cheeks and go please stop please oh my god dr phil just staying with his mouth okay just don't talk anymore don't talk anymore uh she she says that uh he hits her because quote she's italian and she's mouthy and quote doesn't know when to shut up sometimes wow uh she's italian and mouthy and doesn't know when to shut up sometimes as a man who grew up around a few italian women i get it. Trust me. Never hit any of them, though. Don't get to hit them. You can't hit them. They do not know when to shut the fuck up, ever, Italian people.
Starting point is 02:25:11 Never mind the women, all of them. Trust me. So she also then said that, and this is the saddest thing ever, quote, tons of women in their town get beat up by their spouses. Wow. That's the thing where she's trying to say, why isn't that all reported? Everyone gets beat up. This is like the 60s.
Starting point is 02:25:27 Everyone gets smacked around. Sure, Don Draper hit me a couple of times, but it was when I needed it. I was getting mouthy. You know me. I'm Italian. You know us Italians. We don't know when to shut up. We're mouthy.
Starting point is 02:25:37 She said I ties, didn't she? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she then said, fuck, man. She said that she wanted to keep her marriage together. The abuse is not an everyday thing. She said she doesn't think anyone deserves to be hit. And that's what her husband thinks, too. She said people make mistakes.
Starting point is 02:25:53 Do I judge anyone else's life? No. Well, no one's judging you. Nobody deserves to get hit. He believes that. The man's a fighter. The man's a fighter. He doesn't believe that.
Starting point is 02:26:02 He hits everybody. He said, when Dr. Phil is talking to Josh about it, he said, quote, but it takes two. Me and my wife have known each other for our whole lives. We've been dating since we were 13, and maybe we got too comfortable. Yeah. If you call elbow strikes to the face comfortable, I'd say probably yes, that's comfortable at that point. Caitlin got pissed off when she was questioned further about the abuse and actually walked off the show for a minute after her mother yelled at her. So that happened.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Her mom says, quote, right now she's gone through so much abuse that she can't admit the truth. That's the reason why we're here today. I'm afraid for her life. So they're there. Now she has another reason. She comes back out and says, this is fucking, this is bonkers. Okay. She's Italian mouthy.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Doesn't know when to shut up and everybody gets beat up. These are the excuses so far. Now she takes it to another level of excuse making. Okay. This will win her this gummy for the Shana Mayfield award. This is fucking nuts. And I feel so bad for this fucking woman. Wow.
Starting point is 02:27:01 This is fucking nuts. And I feel so bad for this fucking woman. Wow. She says that they got into arguments because she was sure that their Massachusetts home that they had moved into the year before was haunted. Okay. That's why they got into arguments. That's why she's haunted. No, no, no. But that's why they got into arguments.
Starting point is 02:27:21 She said that Josh had started acting differently since they moved into the house. She's got an Amityville situation here. So he's possessed? No, no, no, no, no, no. She said, quote, Josh kept telling me to ignore the house being haunted, and I couldn't. It became an obsession.
Starting point is 02:27:37 Josh had good reason to hit me. I wouldn't stop talking about the ghost. Oh, my God. That's what she said. She literally said, I wouldn't shut up about these fucking ghosts. He had no choice but to hit me. He had to stick the dog on me.
Starting point is 02:27:51 Where do you even start with that? Imagine you're Dr. Phil. No. As big of an asshole he is. He's got a tough job now. Because this poor woman is obviously in pain and obviously there's something wrong and obviously she needs help.
Starting point is 02:28:05 And she's on television trying to say that the ghost made her husband beat her up. Well, at this point, I don't feel bad for Dr. Phil at all because he's going these ratings are going to be crazy. This is going to be amazing. MMA is very popular nowadays. So she said she was sure the place was haunted. MMA and ghost? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. She said she was sure the place was haunted. M-I-N ghost? Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:28:26 She said she was positive it was haunted. They found baby jars, baby food jars filled with hair and papers with names on them in the basement. And their son saw a figure in the home who resembles the man who died there. Oh, for fuck's sake. She also said that her son once seemed to be picked up from the floor into his crib by a, quote, unknown force. Wow. Also, she said that her husband had been acting oddly ever since moving into the house and spent a lot of time in the basement, much like the man who lived there previously. Who died there.
Starting point is 02:29:07 who died there so she says quote what i thought is maybe whoever died in my house was having an impact on my husband because he was doing strange things that he normally wouldn't do dr phil for the first time in his life said something intelligent and he said maybe he was spending more time in the basement because that's where they found all the drugs which is the only intelligent thing anyone said for the last two and a half fucking, which is the only intelligent thing anyone said for the last two and a half fucking hours. This is the first smart thing anyone goddamn said down there. Maybe he was doing drugs down there. I've never heard of a ghost that was so caring about a baby
Starting point is 02:29:34 that it put it in the fucking crib. Oh, just put it in the crib. It's nice. Here's where this goes. He is. But they're leaving everything around, laying all over. I'm going to trip and fall. Somebody's going to trip over this baby.
Starting point is 02:29:46 So she agrees on the show to undergo counseling. Yeah. Thank Christ. Dr. Phil is like, listen. Well, we'll find out about this, though. He promised to pay for professional help for all of them and all this sort of thing. However, after that, she said he had his about Dr. Phil, quote, he had his points and whatnot. But I wasn't there for Dr. Phil.
Starting point is 02:30:06 I was there to get my point out that my husband's a good guy and to get paid from Dr. Phil. Not a good guy. She also said that she was, quote, kind of disappointed that the episode was preempted by tributes for former Boston Mayor Thomas Menino, who recently passed away. So the local market that didn't even get to air all the way here. She says she says she plans to stand by Josh as he nears court. She says, quote, There is one side me and Josh's. That's it. So she's my God.
Starting point is 02:30:36 She's not there. She doesn't know how to speak English. No. And second, mine is the word. November 6, 2014. They put Buddy down. So Buddy is killed. So one more tragic loss here.
Starting point is 02:30:50 Buddy is killed. That's our casualty this week. That's the casualty here. Josh is then, his bail is somehow lowered to $25,000, and he is released from jail. Somehow gets that up. Terms of his release require that he has no contact with his wife. He wears a monitoring device, GPS, and remains drug and alcohol free and follows a curfew of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. He can only go out during the day.
Starting point is 02:31:16 So now he's fucking, he can't go home. Now he's out of jail. He's not armed. He's wandering the fucking streets from 8 to 8. And then I assume he's staying with his brother or his family. I guarantee you that he's still fucking seeing her. And she's still seeing him. They're blowing right past that.
Starting point is 02:31:34 But from 8 to 8, he's like bubbles on the wire when his sister won't let him in the house when she's not there. So he has to sit in the park all fucking day and wait for her to come home. And then he's allowed to go in the basement with the door locked. Well, he was a junkie and he's ripped her off before. He one time cleaned out her whole house, sold all her appliances and everything. So she doesn't believe that Bubbles
Starting point is 02:31:55 is making a comeback every time. But Bubbles actually, I won't tell you what happens. He's an adult man named Bubbles. Bubbles, yeah, and he's a junkie. So he's the big, great character. So Josh is just sitting there like Bubbles, looking at the smell in the air and looking at things and going, this is great to be out of jail. And then he hears some dogs barking, and he's like, buddy?
Starting point is 02:32:13 And he turns, and it's not Buddy. It is Bobby Colorado, animal trainer from Fredericksburg, Texas. And he says... Oh, how is it you come to arrive here what the fuck is wrong hey i don't want to hear what i don't even want to hear how you come to arrive here first of all you fucking jerk off you're an asshole i heard about you listen i train fucking dogs all right you don't train dogs to bite women especially your fucking wife what's what the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, come on. Where am I from?
Starting point is 02:32:46 That's none of your fucking business. I'm not from the Northeast. Let's just say that and leave it at that. All right. I'm from Fredericksburg, Texas. That's how it works out. Let's get back to you, you fucking asshole. No, you can't pet my fucking dogs.
Starting point is 02:32:57 No, I'm going to teach my dogs to bite you, you motherfucker. Tell you what, you'll be here in the park next week. Same place. I'm going to have my dogs fucking bite you because you deserve it. I don't want to catch you around here ever fucking again. Ever again, you get the fuck out of here. No dogs for you. No, you can't buy one of them either.
Starting point is 02:33:11 I know they're beautiful. Get the fuck out of here. Come on. And then the dogs bark and poof. Josh is very surprised in a poof of marinara sauce and dog shit. He's gone. And Josh is very depressed about his lack of freedom and dog. And canine companionship.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Companion! Now, it's at this very moment in 2016, when he's at his lowest point, then that Jens Pulver, there's an article called, Former UFC Champ Jens Pulver Brings Message of Hope, where he goes around the country giving motivational speeches to underprivileged kids for free. Wow. Tell them that he came from a horrible place and they can overcome it if they just give it their all and don't give in to the to the pressures of the world. And he's doing that for a tax write. And this fucking jackass is out here.
Starting point is 02:34:03 And this idiot's going to trial. He's going on Dr. Phil for money yeah god damn it uh he's going do they go to trial they tell everything they say that uh you know she says that she she told people he's going to kill me uh they you know they talk about the abuse everything we just talked about is talked about in the trial the district attorney says quote she gets up there and protects him uh she says she admits that she and Josh on August 4th were arguing. She admits that she was in the bushes. She was a Mitch. She admits she had a handprint on her arm.
Starting point is 02:34:32 She admits that Josh hit her and left a pretty sizable hit her car and left a pretty sizable dent. She admits going into the house with him. She admits that no one else in the house was in but her and the dog and the defendant. She admits they argued in the home and she admits that she fled the home crying in an underwear and a tank top. But she won't say that he hit her. Also, people, a friend of Josh Grisby and his sister testified for the defense.
Starting point is 02:34:57 They said that they were at a cookout the day before. And that's when the dog bit Caitlin Grisby by just joke, just messing around at a cookout bitter. She must have had some hamburger meat on her leg or something there. His attorney, his attorney says, quote, Where's the evidence supporting their case? Where is it? Where's the bruising? Black and blues don't come up right away. Things that come up over time consistent with being bitten by Buddy the dog long before. Also, he's beating her all the time so i don't even want to hear that shit uh nurses uh testified from the hospital as she was tearful
Starting point is 02:35:30 and very upset and testified about her injuries and all that sort of thing they said though they can't protect her if she doesn't want to be protected uh it goes to to the jury it's seven women and five men on this jury uh he is initially indicted on 36 charges there was 34 remained after closing arguments uh six were dismissed by the judge after the state rested and the jury has to decide on 28 charges assault and battery of the deadly dangerous weapon assault and battery and proper storage of firearms. You get the idea. Permission, malicious damage to motor vehicles. Five hours of deliberation. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:07 And he is found guilty. Yes. Seven counts of improper storage of a firearm. Five counts of assault and battery. Two counts of threatening to commit a crime. Eight counts of witness intimidation. Possession of marijuana with intent to distribute malicious damage to a motor vehicle and attempt to procure perjury.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Ouch. 2017 in June is sentencing. The district attorney's office is requesting eight to 10 years in state prison. Yeah. The judge considers this and says, Mr. Grisby, you, sir, may fuck off. And he gives him five and a half years in prison, which isn't a lot, but it's still five and a half years in prison and then five years probation afterwards. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 02:36:44 So don't worry. He'll be back. He'll go back to prison. Yeah. He'll reviolate. You know it. There's no doubt. The district attorney says, quote, domestic violence cases are difficult to prosecute and involve particularly vulnerable sets of victims.
Starting point is 02:36:59 And this case was no different. There was a severe case of abuse, not the physical injuries mr grisby inflicted but the emotional abuse of isolating the victims from the family i'm hopeful that with the time in jail and proper programming mr grisby can learn to control his anger and emotions and become a productive member of society really that's what the da said and please jesus christ everybody out there we've said it all these goddamn episodes if there's anything going on you need fucking help try to get help it's scary we know it we don't know shit about it obviously we're fucking dudes and we're not we don't know but i don't know look someone will help hopefully try look for something i don't know we don't know the solution but please don't stay and get killed
Starting point is 02:37:40 by these assholes that's goddamn that's all we say. Please find a way. Can't get enough. Josh Grisby. I sure can't follow him on Twitter. He's still on there. He's in prison now, but he'll be out soon. That counts. Oh, you know, you can light up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:58 He follows 161 people, has five thousand eight hundred seventy nine followers. That is impressive. Nine hundred thirty tweets. He hasn't tweeted since June 3rd, 2014, and he's fucking verified. What? And we're not. No. Eat shit, motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:38:10 Twitter, you no-count cocksuckers. Are you fucking kidding me, dude? He's verified with 5,000. He's a fucking domestic, violent, asshole, dog-abusing piece of fucking garbage shithead who's in fucking prison who has half the followers we have and we can't get verified and they do. Fuck you. You can donate to his wife's GoFundMe like we said
Starting point is 02:38:29 if you want to do that and pray for the soul of poor buddy. Other than that, that is Josh Grisby. That is Crime and Sports. That's a fucked up crazy story. Ghosts made him abuse his... The Ghosts Made Me Beat Her
Starting point is 02:38:41 is going to be the name of the title because I don't know what else to fucking say. This is the second one that Ghosts Made Them Do Something. Well, Demons in the the title. This is the second one that ghosts made them do something. Well, Demons in the Air Conditioning was like I'd be a boochie. That was just why he was crazy. But this is particular ghosts are possessing him, I guess, and whatever. Forcing his hand.
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Starting point is 02:40:26 actually indeed is white uh Zulamar Zulamar Lucina obviously is not uh Jess Mullins uh Temri Iverson or Temri oh yeah yeah I saw on Twitter what she is or Twitter yeah I saw her yeah I don't know how to pronounce that I don't either nathan thank you uh justin luet luetger luetger luetger it's gotta be luetger we'll take it surely thank you tina leary she donated on both thank you so much thank you that's heroic alex east and ashley i don't know what ashley's last name is i'm assuming thanks ashley i'm assuming all right now it's an ashley eliza tuttle kaylin ow Owen says happy birthday to Liz and Maggie. Luz and Maggie. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 02:41:07 Listen, I'm not good at reading these fucking donations, comments. I treat them much like iTunes reviews where I don't get to read the words. So sometimes I do and I catch the ones that tell me to do something. And so the ones that I don't, fucking sorry. Sorry about that. We try. I got your name, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:25 Somebody donated last week and wanted me to wish a happy birthday to somebody and I got the donator but not the person. It's so hard enough just to produce five hours of show every week
Starting point is 02:41:33 to stay on top of all this shit is really difficult. So we truly apologize and we try our best and we will try harder. We always will. We're trying. We're trying as hard as we can.
Starting point is 02:41:42 We're trying. Oh, shit. Digging deeper is going to be tough. But thank you, Ashley Boxler uh kara simeon simeon simona simono simono she donated on both also thank you thank you so much and so did zach cornell thank you very very much uh ben brixey brixius god damn it i'm doing my best nick lay Laycock, Cherie Holland, Sarah D'Antonio. Thank you. Ryan Baylor, Nicolette Kisileff.
Starting point is 02:42:09 That's a fucking... That's got some rhythm to it. Yeah. Nicolette Kisileff. That sounds like a song. Yeah, that sounds like a song. That sounds like a Miami Sound Machine song. That's beautiful.
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Starting point is 02:42:44 Google Ariana Folsom. Terabusi Creek. Google her. That's what she wants you guys to do. Well, Google away. Google Ariana Folsom. Terabusi Creek, they make those fucking amazing soaps. Thank you guys so, so much. Yes, they do. Sarah's been- They're great people. Yeah, she's always getting soap, and they're awesome people. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:42:55 And then the lady that owns it got her Facebook hacked, and they sent me weird messages. That sucks. Kate Ives, James Asselta, Paul Ru ruest of course thank you uh jake labir uh richard stevenson uh joel bonner um joaquin stanford he said his name is joke him i don't i think he's fucking with me maybe maybe that's how he wants to pronounce it what do you know mr stanford what do you know yimmy wisman who knows we could pronounce that lincoln winneger amanda mcvey, William Mellinson, that's Bill Mellinson over there in Boston. Enjoy this show, Bill.
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Starting point is 02:43:45 Laura Williams. Tina Leary. I think I said her. Thank you so much. Yeah, she donated on both. Thank you, Tina. Brian Ford. Phillip Close.
Starting point is 02:43:52 Denny Sheeran. Or Deny. No, it's Denny, right? Not Deny. Denny? Sure. Probably. Denny.
Starting point is 02:43:59 CJ Richards. Fienes. No last name. Fienes? Maybe that's the last name. Hey. I don't know. We'll see. Kyle Rund. Or Roud. Rude. Rude. R-U-U-D Maybe that's the last name. Hey. I don't know. We'll see. Kyle Rund or Roud?
Starting point is 02:44:06 Rude. Rude. R-U-U-D. That's a cool name. That's right. That's a cool last name. Austin Bollinger. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 02:44:11 You said somebody rude in this show. Rube. Rube. And you automatically- I was like, that rings a bell. I've seen that name before. Best for you as a Kyle today. I've written that name down.
Starting point is 02:44:20 I thought of that too and I didn't say it. But when you said that name, I was like, is that where Jimmy got that before? But I didn't want to dig too deep. Boy, am I dumb. That's awesome. Jason Lipton, Kristen Clemente, Leisha Sincocks, Wendy Dostal, I don't know if that's a D or a P. I'm an idiot. Shannon Russell, Tim Wooten, Robert Wayne, Justin Pasifaro.
Starting point is 02:44:41 Pasifaro. Okay. That's a tough last name. It is. Laura Williams, Samuel Miller, Christina Punt, Daniel Merrifield, Andrew Dupois, Bobby with no last name, Ron Bosch, but it's B-O-B-B-I-E, so that's a check, right? That's a check. I usually thank him.
Starting point is 02:44:56 Well, unless the family was trying to be fucking clever like mine. Exactly. Who knows? I would have think that you would be a woman. I fucking hate my name. Exactly. Who knows? I would have think that you would be a woman.
Starting point is 02:45:03 I fucking hate my name. Steve McTeague, Colin Scott Bitter, Sarah Lewis, Jeremy Parenti, Callie Ander, Sean Tomlinson, Joseph Gillespie, Matthew Long Rhine, Katie Taylor, Brittany Newman, William. Oh, this one's fucking amazing. Wilhelm Rudolph Katzel. Wow. The third. That's amazing.
Starting point is 02:45:22 Fucking yeah. Wow. You should own a toy store. That sounds good. There are three of those people. Wow. Sweet.. That's amazing. Fucking yeah. Wow. You should own a toy store. That sounds good. There are three of those people. Wow. Sweet. Right?
Starting point is 02:45:33 That sounds like he owns a big, I don't know, eccentric toy store owners like Willy Wonka with toys. And it's the Katzl. K-A-T-Z-L. I like it. That's what he calls the store. Katzl. Yeah, for sure. Edgar Scott Robinson, Creativity Blender, and Amber Rachel.
Starting point is 02:45:42 Thank you guys so, so much. Thank you. Did I get Colin Mansfield? I did, right? If not, you got him now. There he is. Thank you guys. You guys Amber Rachel. Thank you guys so, so much. Did I get Colin Mansfield? I did, right? If not, you got him now. There he is. Thank you guys. You guys are amazing.
Starting point is 02:45:48 Thank you so much. Thank you guys so much. It's fucking amazing. Thank you. It's huge every week. And like we said, soon we'll be able to tell you exactly how huge and our circumstances, but it really, really keeps the lights on. So thank you guys for everything you do.
Starting point is 02:46:03 We really, really do appreciate every single dime. And what if somebody appreciated every dime that you had, Jimmy? How could they tell you about it? You can find me at WismanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N sucks, on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat. Thank you guys for everything, especially the guy that sent me this week that we have an update for Big John Dunaway. Oh, yeah, he's dead.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Jim, Big Jim Dunaway. Big Jim Dunaway. Big Jim's dead. So that wife-murdering asshole's dead. Biggin, who was the fucking worst thing to research. That's dead. Jim. Big Jim Dunaway. Big Jim Dunaway. Big Jim's dead. So that wife-murdering asshole's dead. Biggin, who was the fucking worst thing to research. That's right. It was so hard. So fucking hard.
Starting point is 02:46:31 I had to dig up old newspaper archives. It was insane. I had to dig. That was the hardest research. It's like you had to drag a woman out of a half-empty pool, right? Yeah, it was kind of like killing a woman and then convincing everyone that I didn't leave her corpse in a half-empty pool. You know how it goes there.
Starting point is 02:46:42 So that's that. If you want to follow me, it's at JimmyPIsFunny, or just copy and paste my last name from the show description. Don't try to be a hero because you will hurt yourself without a goddamn doubt. That said, Jimmy, I think it's time to go. I think we have laid down the gauntlet today. And I am happy about it. I had a great time.
Starting point is 02:46:59 We hope you had a great time live from the Crime and Sports Studios. We will see you next week. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.

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