Crime in Sports - #143 - A Hubcap In Your Gillooly - The Classiness of Tonya Harding

Episode Date: January 1, 2019

This week, we explore the life of a woman who came from nothing, and ended up right at the edge of greatness... Then she fell off that edge. A troubled early life led to a troubled adult life, including drinking while doing everything, aggressiveness with both baseball bats & hubcaps, and what appears to be way too much video poker playing. Oh! And then there was that whole clubbing of an Olympic figure skating darling. But that really is just the tip of this dingy, half sunken iceberg!! Pop off a record setting triple axle, plot an international incident with your ex-husband, and attack a boyfriend with a hubcap with Tonya Harding!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's the thing. It's weird. There's not a lot of them, as we found. It's one every once in a while. But when they do. But boy, when they're there. I'm noticing a pattern, too, which is the other weird thing. And we'll talk about it during this episode.

How many have we had? We had Kelly Lane. Kelly Lane. We had the bodybuilder, Sally. We had Sally McNeil. We had Tammy Sitch. And I think that's it. Is that it?

It might be it. I know we're missing one. Are we? I know we're missing one. I don't know. Oh, well, she was with Titus, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The bodybuilder chick. Yeah, yeah. she was with Titus, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The bodybuilder chick. Yeah, yeah. She was

with Titus. That's still, yeah, I guess she counts too. She sort of counts, yeah. I feel like we're missing one. We might be. There's been so many episodes now that I can't. We're closing in on 200, aren't we? This is 143. So we're closing in on 150, right? Closing in on 150. We're coming strong. Scummies are coming up

in a while here, so stay tuned for that. Probably next, I think it's next month. In're coming strong. Scummies are coming up in a while here so stay tuned for that. Probably next I think it's next month in February we do the scummies on our year anniversaries. We do the scummy awards which are always fun. How crazy is it that Tammy Sitch is like the weakest of those criminals though? Oh yeah. Her crimes were not They're not vicious by any sort but

they keep coming. They don't stop. This is we have a Tammy-ish situation going on here. A sitch? We have a sitch, a stitch of a sitch right here. It's a stitch of a sitch. Just a drop. White trashery, thick today.

Oh, great. Thick like a forest that someone would live in, like a tree stand. That's a little fog. Let's talk about it. It's Tanya harding everybody holy shit tanya maxine harding that's her middle name maxine with an e not even an i really no eyes in that one just maxine hold on spell that m-a-x-e-n-e maxine yeah it's it's she comes from a tough situation she comes from a tough situation she's the type here where god

damn it like i remember when this would have okay we won't spend the whole time talking about the the olympics and the clubbing and all that kind of shit because that was that's been that's been covered enough and there's so much other crazy shit going on that we don't need to spend that much time on that i mean we'll spend some time on it, but I mean, honestly, we could do three hours on just the crime because it's been the only thing more documented and more like step by step is OJ. That's literally the only thing that's been more like it's one little crime in every drop of it. I can I can just I know every second I can account for every second of everybody's days in the leading up to it. It's too much. We'll do a broad stroke on that one.

Real quick, leading up to the Olympics that year, that was like the main coverage was those two, right? That's all it was. That's all they talked about. It was like the competition between the two. So when one of them is clubbed... Well, that sparked that talk. Okay, all right. It wasn't that?

We'll talk about it, all right. Yeah. It wasn't that? We'll talk about it, but it's not. It's more, we'll focus more on her and how this affects her than this crime. Because then there's so much more. This is just a disaster and it's going to be a classic. We'll put it that way. That time period, there was so many ridiculous news articles. Well, when that was all over, then OJ started up. Because it was literally right at the end of this, like a month later, that was the O.J. car chase.

And Lorena Bobbitt was like a week before this shit. Every week was a new TV movie of the week about something that just happened. You're like, how did they film this? This happened yesterday. And it was absurd. They have a whole movie shot. It's incredible. 14 Joey Buttafuoco movies, Amy Fisher movies.

That too! The 90s were amazing. For sleazy, trash TV, there was 45 talks of Ricky Lake and Montel and Rolanda. And Richard Bay. Every bit of insanity going, not to mention, obviously, Jerry Springer or those. I mean, this was the time when the most voyeuristic... Now we have reality shows, but none of that's real. That's all stage.

No, that's reality. That's all stage. This was the dawning of actual reality of like, I want to see what people are doing. Let's follow them around with cameras, even if they don't want us to. The purest form of reality TV was the early 90s. Yeah. Follow Joey Buttafuoco when it was off. It was auto shop,

when he's got his Zubas and his fanny pack. Follow him into there with a camera while he goes, all right, quit breaking my fucking balls. That's reality TV. It's not the Kardashians having a staged event. I love that when Amy Fisher, her rebound from all of that was going into porn.

That's fucking beautiful. Well, that seems to be a common thing. Tammy of that was going into porn. That's fucking beautiful. Well, that seems to be a common thing. Tammy, that was her. Tammy said it seems to be. Well, you know what it is, is if there was any interest, John Bobbitt, the guy who got his cock cut off, he went to porn, too. If that's your only move and it's possible for you, that's what people do. It's just more possible for women because nobody cares if a guy

nobody cares right the word doesn't yeah unless something happened to his dick like john bobbitt let's see if it works look at it it still works that was the whole point it wasn't even impressive it was just the fact that it was there that's operational the the impressive part is that they found it put it back on and operations operations? No way. That's crazy. It finishes. Medical science, baby. Get the fuck out of here. Medical science. So Tanya Harding.

Yeah. She's born November 12, 1970 in Portland, Oregon. She's a Northwest girl. She's a Portland girl. She comes up tough. I will say that. She has a tough upbringing. She has an upbringing much like I know a million people have her exact upbringing.

You know, family life's kind of a mess. She's your kind of girl. Yeah, we'll say that she grew up in similar situations like, you know, she does. We got three half brothers. Yeah, we'll talk about that. I got half brothers and sisters and things coming in and out. And it's it's a it's a tough life broken home broken home but hers it was mainly her parents were broken before her really mainly as we'll

talk about here well we'll talk about it in a minute uh lavona golden was his uh was her mother and uh albert harding was her father uh she's raised in east in east portland uh she began skating around three or four. So very early ice skating. If you know nothing about Tanya Harding, she's an ice skater. Right. And a figure skater, to be exact. And was a pretty fucking good one.

Really good. Yeah, we'll talk about all this. She started at age three, training with Diane Rawlinson, which I guess was a good coach there. She also, though, was a proprietor of the redneck arts of all redneck arts uh she is a kind of a kind of a country kind of girl yeah at heart this is your kind of girl she likes she's she hunted she was she liked to drag race she knows how to she can take a car apart and put it back together you know chain smoking by the time she's 11 i'm not kidding she's a she's a hardcore she's like you'd look at her like 11 and go this girl's gonna be a coal miner for christ's sake you want a shot of whiskey hey fella you want some whiskey like you're a you're a tough broad she's calling

her dad a pussy yeah come on pussy what not i want three fingers what are you doing three fingers of john are you doing? Three fingers of Johnny Red. Let's go. That's horrible. Sorry. Sorry. It was the... Right.

An opportunity like that will never come up again. To make a joke that actually worked and also was gross. It worked and it worked. In that capacity. That's never going to come up again. I kind of had to do it. I'm sorry. My comedian brain went, oh, boy.

This is never going to happen again. Say it. So she was asked later, and there's interviews that we'll talk about that turned into a book later that are self-serving, we'll say, but also and some some factoids you get out of it like her own words her own words and uh well yeah there's a lot of in their own words as a matter of fact uh we'll try to keep them to a minimum or else there'll just be 50 of them so we gotta i'll pick and choose a couple real choice ones here uh they were asked if she knows what her family is basically she's just a blonde girl uh she says quote that she's always heard she was a heinz 57

fuck does that mean apparently means a whole bunch of shit oh okay russian german french canadian she thinks possibly eskimo was mixed in there she said in her words here uh she said i don't know where that would come from but it's the it's the things that i've heard in my life so she could use a uh you know 23 and me right now, I feel like is her issue. She needs a swab. I'm sure she's done it by now. She was asked if she has any half brothers or sisters. She says, my mother had three boys and a girl plus me.

So I guess three boys and two girls. Yeah. At that point. What is she doing? I don't know. This is, yeah. My mom had three boys and a girl and then whatever the fuck I am. And then me also.

And then Tanya. Right. I am Tanya. So, yeah, she had three boys, two girls. She said, quote, her first marriage, her mother's first marriage, she wasn't married very long. Her second marriage, she had twin boys. One of them died shortly after birth from crib death. Uh-huh.

She knows the symptoms. Yeah. Knows the symptoms. They call it crib death? Is it? from crib death uh-huh she knows the symptoms yeah they call it crib death is it the crib death is just fucking stomp that kid to death man that crib man came in there i put the baby in the crib right and i walked out i figured he'd be sleeping i came back that fucking crib was on top of him and uh claiming victory and i'm like it's fucked up it's really doing a showboat dance over his lifeless body. It's really.

And they look like he spiked a ball on him. See, Iverson stepped over him. He's getting 15. You're flagging him for that bad boy. They used to call Sid's crib death. That's weird. That was like the non-medical term for, she had crib death. She got the SIDS.

Nobody would be like what the hell is that sudden something i don't fucking know i don't know crib she died in a fucking crib you know the symptoms that is a callback from our last crime and sports episode where i love it more than anything somehow we discussed sids for 15 minutes and it was funny i don't know how we did it it was amazing that's the thing when how he did it. It was riveting. It was amazing. That's the thing. When it presents itself, you gotta take it. He'd swing that bat. Yeah. She said, one of those boys died from crib death shortly after birth.

She said, the other one, I think, was in his 30s, and he died. Jesus. And her daughter, I'm not sure if she's in her 30s now, but I have no idea where she is. Hawaii or someplace, who knows? Her other son, I have no idea where he is either uh she said that uh his sister my sister was kicked out of the house at 12 or 13 or 14 early teens quote she was a hooker and married to different kinds of people and i have no idea where she is today i saw her a couple times back in 93 and once in early 94. So married to all kinds of people.

All kinds is a hooker in her words, a hooker married to different kinds of people. Okay. Which I don't know if this at the same time, if that means like a, just a racial grab bag or maybe she means every short guy and a tall guy or like two ladies and a fat guy. I don't know what she's married different kinds of people every night different kinds of different like circus performers they're different they're different kinds of people i don't know who the fuck these people are but she was kicked out of the house in her early teens to get into prostitution and uh marrying to pursue her

career different kinds of people yeah apparently i don't know what it is here so this obviously she had a crazy upbringing clearly and just to just in and out we'll talk about other things happen to uh her mother her mother we don't know whether we don't know whether to call it abusive or not and she doesn't kind of know whether she calls it abusive but then other people are like it's not really abusive but then abuse is kind of in the eye of the beholder sounds like neglectful at minimum well she's not neglectful, though. The mother isn't because the mother, she actually, you know, has a hard time supporting the family.

She works as a waitress. She hand sews skating costumes for her daughter and drives her to skating things and takes all her money and puts it on. Sure, that's expensive. This is the thing. This is why you want to root for like Tanya Harding back in the day. And you want to root for her because if you saw those, you know, they do the Olympics, you know, with these piano music and they'll tell you their story. Sure. Like most of the people, not most of them, but a lot of the people in like figure skating are.

They're well-to-do people. To be able to ice skate a lot, just to be able to know that you have aptitude for that. I never, I'm not rich enough to know if I was a great i could be i could have the most figure skating talent ever yeah it's just never been unlocked because i've never had ice skates on my feet because my parents were like we're not fucking taking you there i skate rentals two dollars fuck you wasn't happening if i was wealthy i would probably have access to ice skates on your own i'd have my own ice care i you know whatever but it's just you, how often were you taking ice skating as a child, Jimmy? I've skated once in my life at a company picnic for my mom's company.

Oh, okay. There you go. That's what it was. You weren't, as a child, no one said, let's see if your feet are gifted. No one said that. I think I was 19. Watch cartoons while I do shit. Yeah, that's what I mean. It not so i can do it i'm not bad at it i i assume a case

i can roller skate is it it's really not that hard it's everyone's told me it's it's it's easier than skateboarding yeah i was like okay i was good at skateboarding so i feel like i could pull that off i'm good with balance shit like that so all right that's fine you probably do it it's not that it's not that bad not that bad all right well but that's what i mean though but if you're not grow if you don't grow up a certain way though you have no idea what you're capable of and uh they went out of their way and lavona especially the mother went out of her way to figure it out to uh to get her there uh she couldn't she made the costumes because she couldn't afford to buy or any and all the other kids had costumes

when they did their routines, so she had to have a fucking costume, too. She figured it out. That's what a mother does. But at the same time, she was excessively, later on, as Tanya puts it, quote,

she was real strict on me, as she puts it. She is a redneck through and through, this girl, by the way. Livona or Tanya? Everybody. Everybody involved. and through, this girl, by the way. Livona or her? Everybody. Everybody involved. Everybody involved in this story besides Nancy Kerrigan is a complete redneck.

Everybody. Besides Nancy Kerrigan. Besides Nancy Kerrigan. It's like you see a pool and you see levels and it's like there's three feet, five feet. This is the deep end, 12 feet of hillbillory. This is some shit. In a trailer park. In a trailer park. In a trailer park.

She says, and her friends, like one friend says that she saw in a door one time her mother hitting her with a hairbrush and yelling at her for something. It's not so much physically abusive. It's sort of mentally abusive and controlling. Her mother is with her. And I don't know if her mother said, okay, all all my other kids my one daughter's a fucking prostitute right my sons i don't know where they are this one's you know had the symptoms right over here maybe i'm just i'm gonna make sure to keep this one close to the vest and i don't know how to do that because i'm gonna beat it safe i wasn't yeah i'm gonna beat it safe i wasn't raised properly so i

don't know how to do that so i'll just beat it till it's safe. Yeah, I'll yell at it till it's afraid to leave. Well, I feel like that's what it is, though. Here, listen to what she says. She says they asked, was your mother abusive? Did she call you names? And she says she said, quote, Oh, always. I am fat.

I am ugly. I can eat this. I can't eat that. You're not going to amount to a hill of beans. My mother was an alcoholic, a very bad alcoholic, filling up a thermos three quarters or half full with brandy. And the rest was coffee at 430 in the morning to take me to the rink. She would drink all that. And then once once we got home or after she got home, because there was a lot of times I didn't go to school, she would be drinking again as soon as she got home.

And it made life very hard. You never knew what was going to happen. What do you expect from a lady who's yeah she's had a hard life yeah and clearly she's she probably blames herself for the crib death oh yeah oh any parent i would think would be yeah i should have just stared at the baby until it's fucking woke up in the morning yeah i would i would kill myself as a prostitute you over that. As a prostitute, you're going to feel like a piece of shit. It would take a thermos of coffee and brandy to get my ass out of bed, too. And you're going, and I'm sure she didn't enjoy sitting at the ice rink for two hours at 4.30 in the morning. You've got to drink booze to stay warm.

That's the other thing here. She said, though, it was also physical, but mostly psychological abuse. She said it was a regular part of her life. Later on, her mother will admit to one instance of hitting her while they were at the ice rink for something. But also, and I don't mean to defend child abuse ever, but if you have a mother who's had a hard life and she's half drunk on brandy

and she's driving you to the rink and she has no fucking money and she made you this car, she might just snap once in a while and smack you. Not that that's okay, but you go fuck yeah i you know i understand if little tanya might be acting a smidge ungrateful that's yeah who knows yeah that's the other thing who knows like we said don't beat your kids ever but you know we're trying to find a reason for it if not an excuse anyway uh the the she was known as really competitive yeah really competitive and you have to be shit yeah you can't like people can make their kids pawns for whatever they want i want my kid

to be a football player great you can go sign him up for football and all that but if he's not insanely competitive it doesn't fucking matter yeah he's gonna play till they're in ninth grade and they're gonna go other people are competitive and i don't feel like competing that hard in this i don't care about that remember when i littler, and I was just bigger than everybody else, and now everybody got road spurts, and now it's tough. Yeah, and some people just have that thing where if you smack them in the mouth, they're like, I need to fucking rip your head off, and I have to get in there and be competitive. And then some people are just like, not for me.

She apparently was in the, this is all I'm going to do. I'm very competitive. She apparently was in the, this is all I'm going to do. I'm very competitive. A lot of people who even like her later on, who grew up with her, were kind of, she was really seen as like this figure that emerged from shit, basically. She was seen as like, you know. I just saw something really gross. I just saw John Goodman raising Arizonarizona instead of mud just a huge pile

of shit emerging just the big shit that's how they all describe it they all describe it like we're from a poor area and she came out and did this fancy thing like you know she didn't play football or something like that this is some like highfalutin shit here that they do at the olympics and wear sequined costumes and not usually a thing that somebody from around here and just in their socioeconomic sphere does. So a lot of people are proud of her, but they also said she had an attitude problem as a child. You think? Yeah. They said a lot of people said they were they weren't real surprised about her just general problems because of her attitude problems.

her just general problems uh because of her attitude problems uh one of her friends or i guess a person that used to skate with her at milwaukee high school uh a woman named jenna halas dumas uh she said quote being number number one was always on her mind she used to say things like oh i'm prettier than you she was never anything close to being a princess it's sad she had so many hopes and dreams so she didn't know how uh what her face looked like no well she she's super competitive yeah she too well my my boy swims and he is insanely competitive when we go to these meets and stuff he's like sizing up other kids you have to be and if he wasn't yeah we'd fucking quit in a second there's no point to it at that leaving town booking a hotel room and sitting by a goddamn pool for a weekend people do that they

just force their kids to do it and their kids miserable and they don't give a shit and you know they're the ones who are competitive because they didn't do whatever yeah or they did even worse or worse they did right yeah or. Oh, yeah. Or even more. You can just do it. Just do it. I don't understand. I did it. What's wrong with you?

I don't understand why you can't just do this. What's wrong with your shitty body? I gave it to you. Now use it. I made it, yeah. Christ almighty. You got half of me, and I'm a winner. Fucking pussy.

You got half a winner in there, at least. Half a winner. This one I don't know about. She's a pain in the ass, but I'm a fucking winner. Awful. You know there's fathers out there. Oh, there's so many. So 1985, 1986.

She's 15 years old here, and she's skating. She's skating her little heart out here. She competes in the U.S. Figure Skating Championships, which is a big goddamn deal. What year? This is 85. Okay. U.S. Figure Skating Championships. She's going to be in it every year, so I'll explain it.

It's obviously a big figure skating competition. It's held annually to crown the national champion of the United States or champions in the different genders and whatever. It's sanctioned by U.S. Figure Skating, and it's referred to as the nationals by everybody. So there's like two things below the Olympics. This is like two below the Olympics. And where's it held? It's all over the place, I think, yeah. So she finishes sixth that year.

Her first time. She's 15. Yeah, she's a kid. I mean, Christ, good for her for trying, you know. She also competes in the U.S. Olympic Festival tournament this year, which is a tournament that they just call the U.S. Olympic Festival tournament this year, which is a tournament that they just call the U.S. Olympic Festival for some reason. It's not at the Olympics.

I don't know why they do that. But she finishes fifth in that fifth in that. Now, 86 comes around. So she's getting into this competitive skating thing. She's starting to be known. And this is the time, too, where when they're this age, this is where they start noticing them as prospects for future Olympics and things like that. And she's being noticed nationally as a kid who, hey, she could have some promise come,

you know, 92, maybe 94, things like that. You never know here. So also she's having problems at home that are nothing to do with her or not her fault at all, namely her alcoholic do with her. Sure. Or not her fault at all. Namely, her alcoholic mother and problems like that. Even worse, her half brother, Chris, who molested her. No. Yes, she she claims that he molested her.

The mother says that this never happened, but we can't really believe the mother. Mom, you can't do that. You can't do that. One. And number two, she was drunk this whole time by Yeah. By her own admission and Tanya's. So you have no idea what was going on behind your back. He forgot a baby. Yeah, that's what I mean. So apparently she said he had done this a few times and this was, you know, she hated his guts.

Tanya called the police after, in 1986, after chris had been uh sexually harassing and terrorizing her the way she put it he ended up being arrested and actually spent a short time in prison for this uh and now tanya claims that her parents were in complete denial and told her not to press charges against him so her parents were going don't press charges against him you're just gonna you know come back yeah you can't it. They just don't want to deal. I'm sure they have to pay for something, too, with court. And I'm sure it's just easier for them if we just say, hey, let's just forget this whole thing ever happened. And I don't know why they wouldn't just say, hey, stop molesting my fucking daughter.

I don't know why that didn't come up. Not just my daughter. Stop molesting your sister. Your sister. You're a half sister. You fucking you're gross. That's disgusting. That is. You're a half sister. You fucking you're gross. That's disgusting. That is very disgusting.

Fuck, man. That's that's the worst. And the parents weren't in any place to notice it, apparently. So between working and drinking and that's the other person. I should have just been like, listen, put him in jail because the money that I was spending on his mouth for food, I can now spend on better branding. My mouth for booze. Right. Yeah.

Much better. Yeah. And better costumes for her to ice skate in. More thread. I'm spending your food money on ice skating costumes for your half sister that you diddled, you fucking asshole. Let him sit in jail. Jesus Christ.

At this point, too, she began a relationship of her own, a new relationship. She begins a relationship with a 17-year-old boy named Jeff Galooly. Now, if that sounds familiar to you, if you know the story, this is a bad cocktail, this relationship. And it really is, too. These two, I mean, they fall in love and all that. And we often see these things when people fall in love as teenagers that doesn't mean you should be together forever not always it just doesn't it probably means you should be together about six months and then take it all as a learning experience and move on to the next person trying to fuck

whatever you fucked up in the last one up in this one right you do that for a while till you're like 30 maybe and figure it out but yeah other than that uh this is a different thing they get together and they're they have a very much just a fiery oh it's volatile attractive and and and then they you know they're like magnets and you turn them around and they fucking go against each other and shoot into the wall that's what happens with these two uh 86 87 season i guess skating season uh she skates in the skate america which is and we'll talk about this because she does some crazy shit in this later on this competition skate america is an international senior level figure skating competition uh it's held as part of the isu grand

prix of figure skating series and it's hosted by u.s figure skating so it's this is all u.s figure skating they have their fingers and everything for honestly i was gonna say lack of a better term but honestly i don't trust any of these people so some of them have the fingers in the skater especially after the mandy malone situation and all this i don't trust any of these people but she doesn't even accuse anybody of molesting her so that's good she has female coaches too a lot oh that's nice which is also helpful uh she is uh uh the location of this one is different every year too uh she finishes second in this which is a big coup for her that's

a big deal she also goes to the u.s championships that year and uh finishes fifth in those so she was sixth last time she moved up a spot good for her she's crushing she's crushing for a 16 year old girl i mean she's amazing she's kicking ass and she's in one competition she's second she's second yeah it's a big one too it's not some little rinky dink thing that's it's a big deal that you know they pay attention to but you know we haven't heard yet finishing first finishing first not yet she's a kid okay because a lot because some of these people that are in it they're you know they're olympic level talent too so this is like all of them because it's not like once they go to the olympics and they don't do this shit anymore like there's this is the best of the best of the best

yeah the u.s championships like i saw later on michelle kwan wins it one year and then doesn't win in another then wins it another and then wins it like nine years in a row yeah like because she was just the dominant one dominant yeah and it was all like you go back through time like peggy fleming won it like seven years in a row and And all these, I can't remember any of these other figure skaters' names. There's only like seven that are like household names. Yeah, that I remember. I remember Wolfgang Schwartz did something to one of them. I don't know.

He was our molesting figure skater coach. I was like, why does that name something? It's the only figure skating we've really covered is Schwartz being like a human trafficker. Right. And a complete scumbag, by the way. That's a crazy episode. Weird. Every time I think about a male figure skater, I see the one, the guy from, was it Top Secret?

Or it was some spoof movie where like the packet, oh, you know what? It's not even figure skating. Never mind. I'm an asshole. What are you talking about? It was actually ballet dancing. That's what the guy was doing. Where his package kept growing through yeah through the through the performance then

it may have been naked gun something like that it's a spoof yeah loaded weapon or one of those some shit like that things i hard i don't fucking know that's all of them yeah i think we got all i think we got all the second second tier naked guns out of the way there's naked gun and then there's all those other ones. And of course, airplane and the process. Your eyes bugging out. That's all. That's all.

I was trying to be like, that's it. I think we got it all. It was like vacuuming up a spot on the rug and you're like, I think it's up. I think we got it all. I think we're good. No more crumbs. Yeah, no security deposit back. This is sweet. So, Jesus Christ. back. That's sweet. So, Jesus Christ.

Unbelievable. Silly man. 1987, Tanya Harding's parents, and this is where even more kind of tumult at home here, her parents divorce after 19 years of marriage in 1987 when she's 16 years old. And that's also kind of hard on her just because it just makes everything even more up in the air. So now there's just all it's a mess. It's already

got uncertainty. She has no idea where this is going. And then she's got to go back to the house where we have no idea where this house is going. And on the other side of that, she's got this laser focus with the figure skating. It's like everything else is just juggled and then she has one thing that's like grounded right that's the thing she's doing so she must feel more pressure than most to perform because this she's got to look at this as

this is my fucking way out of here yeah this is my way out of drinking brandy at 4 30 in the morning because that's what my life is going to be if i don't fucking do this and get the hell out of here uh she ends up dropping out of high school at this point. No. Well, yeah, they don't have what she says. Is that a good idea? In her sophomore year. Is that a good idea, though?

I mean, shit, if she want to be in the Olympics, you got to train. If you're wealthy, you can train and have tutors and all that sort of thing. But if you're not, you got to train. You can't afford tutors and all that shit. And there's no private schooling for you or anything like that. You just drop out of school in her sophomore year. She does get her GED. So she does actually get her a piece of paper saying that she can read and write

and knows there's no oil in Florida, things like that. And I graduated that year, and I still don't. That's terrible. I have a GED. It's terrible. I have a GED. She got a GED after a sophomore? After a sophomore year. That's pretty great. During her sophomore year.

That's pretty incredible. Yeah, so I mean, honestly, if you've ever taken the GED, you could take it after your sixth grade year and probably fucking pass it if you paid attention. If you were a mediocre seventh grader, you could pass a GED test, I feel like. I didn't pay attention. I don't know how I have a diploma. I got a high honors GED. Jesus, James. That is not a lie.

They sent me that piece of paper. I'm like, what? Get the fuck out of here. The back of it's like a Denny's maze that you color through. A placemat menu. What is this? Are you kidding me?

Get the fuck out of here with this high honors GED. Grant slams $1.99. Let's put it on the wall, everybody. No, let's not. Let's keep that off the wall. Because that is embarrassing. I'm impressed that she has the forethought to drop out of high school to go pursue. Yeah.

Because I had a friend in high school that was, I mean, back in 97, my sophomore year. And he was a cyclist. Really great one. Went to Olympic trials. And I mean, I don't think he knew that Lance Armstrong was coming down the pike. But he was about to just take everybody's money in that sport. If he wanted to throw some roids down, he could have competed. But I don't think Austin has done fuck with that since then.

And I believe he was thinking about moving to be a foreign exchange student just to pursue it whoa that's fucking crazy yeah and that's not even dropping out that's i mean that's how serious you have to be though with some of these sports some of the young like tennis is the same way like you have when you're 16 you have to be yeah that's when you're good you better be you better be yeah because you're done by 23 for the most part unless you're a williams sister you're done early so that's the same thing with figure skating you don't see oh she's 44 years old she's going to enter that doesn't happen no there's not a bunch of then a 44 year old lady nothing wrong with being 44 but you're probably

not an olympic level athlete at this point in time neither am i and neither is jimmy i'm not anywhere near 40 well i'm near 40 you're pretty close you're pushing i'm not 40 you're pushing hard the point is and i'm not doing it anytime soon. No, this is what I mean. So you get it while the getting's good at this point. And the thing is with this, if you can get to the Olympics, if you can score a fucking medal, if you can be, there's a certain protected class in America. in america if you can be a united states olympic athlete who medals in a sport we give a shit about and watch on tv you are a fucking hero for the rest of your life it doesn't matter what you do and it can't be fucking shot pudding or some horse shit like that that nobody watches it's

gotta be gymnastics figure skating gymnastics basketball diving and swimming for some reason that people want to watch i have no idea why they're entertained by that. But that or basketball, a sport we give two fucks about. And Kurt Angle, wrestling, there you go. People still know who he is. Well, obviously, it was WWE forever. But he was in there because he won a fucking gold medal. So it's one of those things. You wouldn't know who Carrie Strug is if she didn't know how to do what the fuck she does that's what i mean and so that's how it is if you win a medal here then you're

a sweetheart forever you're an america's sweetheart for the rest of your life so there's a certain thing you get work forever you can coach forever it's like putting a horse out to stud yeah once you're done then you go coach it for exorbitant amounts for little shithead rich kids you know that you weren't and when you're this So I get her life that she's trying to do. So she drops out. Which part is putting the horse out to stuff? Well, you're not making them fuck. You're spreading your knowledge.

I was like, wait, what? What they do is if you're Kurt Angle has been put out to stud, he has impregnated several hundred women. It's really how he's made his living. He wrestles for free. He just stud fees just to make future champions. I was all bored. I wasn't in the whole thing. And then you spit that out.

And then you go to the part where they coach. I was like, wait a minute. What part are we at right now? That's what it is. That's their stud right there. That's their studding. 87-88 season, she goes to the NHK Trophy, which is an international senior level figure skating competition.

It's part of the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating as well, organized by the Japanese Skating Federation, and it's part of the isu grand prix of figure skating as well organized by the japanese skating federation and uh it's in japan so uh it's uh it's it's went through 70 uh uh began in 79 this one uh she finishes third in this competition which isn't bad go over to japan and uh who she lost to ends up being a future medalist in the Olympics. So she's the one, the winner. I know. I'm not sure about second place.

Uh, U S championships that year. She goes there also finishes fifth in the U S championships. So she has tough showings at these championships, her first few years. Uh, the plus, I mean,

all, there's a lot going on at home here too. Like we said, she's got a shitload going on. So it's to keep any focus would be difficult i would imagine and she's still got the boyfriend from high school she's still got jeff galuli and as a matter of fact around this time uh after her parents got divorced a bunch early 88 this with so much shit at home she decides that she's moving out uh at 17 to move in with her boyfriend

jeff uh they move into a small home a little tiny home uh in 1988 he worked in distribution at the oregon liquor control commission and uh what the fuck does that do no idea and distribute i don't know they give liquor out at the oregon he's distributing some come get your liquor everybody it's we got your rations i was just gonna say liquor rations bring your liquor tickets over here. Y'all bring your liquor tickets to the front. Make sure you got your damn liquor tickets. No ticket, no booze.

It's like an open mic. You get drink tickets. You get a drink ticket. It's like a festival with a wristband. It's like a shitty October fest. Oh, this is for the wristband. Then I got to get in a separate line. Fuck you. Beers are in that line?

No. So, yeah, he does that. And but he's supporting her. She's happy. She's out of her mother. She's out from under her mother's grip and out from under her talons. And that's all she wanted was to get the fuck out of that house away from all that, because I assume, too, with a divorce, her mother was probably not in a great state of mind. Yeah.

Well, you know, her normal alcoholism add to that a divorce. I assume that's bad here. Sounds like her mom was probably mouthy to begin with because she was drunk all the time. Probably had spit out a lot of opinions. Then you add a divorce into that, a drunk lady with grievances. And she's going to air them even more now with Tanya.

So Tanya's in for the heat. I assume she's probably going to get the most of it, and that's she's thinking so uh instead she moves out she's with jeff and jeff also she feels a little protected by jeff she feels you know he's kind of uh he's always kind of like her her watchdog type guy too and she's also will say uh he's a he's a kind of a bigger guy he's a tall guy she's she's small she's 5'1". Super small. She's 5'1". She's tiny. Yeah. So, I don't know.

She thinks of him as whatever. I don't know how to put it. Protect her. Protect her a little bit. Yeah. And bodyguard. And he's a little tough, too. And she likes that.

But she's not going to want some pussy. She knows how to fucking put a transmission together. Right. She wants a pussy. Right. She doesn't want some pussy. It's got to be a guy who's a fucking tough. It looks like the lead singer of Queen, but manly.

But yeah, he had a good mustache. I'll say that for Mr. Mercury there. Mercury, that's it. More talent than anybody and a fine mustache. You betcha. Good fucking dude there. Now, it's at this point where Tanya's molesting half-brother chris uh 1988 is killed in a hit and run car accident huh where he's walking and somebody hits him and kills him and it's never solved really never solved that's strange when you consider what

happens still never saw never solved it's never ever been solved he's never been no one's ever been held responsible for that which i just find i'm not accusing anybody obviously uh but i find it so odd based on what happens later where it seems like if anybody's pissing tanya off right you know what i mean i don't know so uh very you can put that together with your own people i mean also too who knows he's a scumbag he could have been out molesting somebody and somebody got mad around him who the fuck knows who knows what happened's a scumbag. He could have been out molesting somebody and somebody got mad and ran him over. Who the fuck knows?

Who knows what happened to him? Could have been an accident. Could have been a drunk. We have no idea. I didn't know that. I didn't either until I did all this crazy research. No, I don't know fucking. My Christ.

Nobody knows shit about. And by the way, if you've seen I, Tonya, because that was an entertaining thing lately, that is complete. Sabricated. It's garbage. It's fun and whatever, it's not it's based on like two interviews basically one with tanya and one with jeff galuli ah so there's not like a whole lot of it's just garbage it's not meant to be like a like a revealing documentary it's meant to be just a silly it's a couple people's side of the story that's nothing it's meant to be silly

it's not meant to be real it's meant to be like this is not basically you know here's two people's story somewhere in the middle is the truth and who knows what the fuck the truth is so we'll just talk some shit i'd really like to know where jeff was that night that her brother was killed i would love to know that would be some real interesting information i'm curious but well not even jeff if jeff has we'll talk about it jeff's got friends and i don't know what jeff's an interesting guy here we'll talk about now uh 88 89 after this now her molesting half-brother's dead her father's gone they're divorced yeah she's moved out of the house said a lot of she has a few big years where it's like so much action so much activity uh 88 89 at the prize of moscow news competition this is uh it's known as Moscow Skate, and they give the Moscow News trophy.

It's an international senior-level figure skating competition held in the Soviet Union from 66 to 90. Then, I guess, the wall fell, and things changed over there, and it went away. It was held annually in Moscow in December, and it's an ISU Grand Prix of figure skating event. The winners receive a crystal skate statuette, which seems like it'd be pretty cool. I think a crystal ice skate. Really? Yeah, it's a crystal skate. That's cool.

She finishes first. She wins it. She wins it. Goes over to Russia and takes home the crystal skate. Wow, how do you feel about that, Boris? Yeah, which her mom immediately drinks brandy out of. Oh, that's perfect for my rock and see-through

and everything. Thank you, sweetie. If I put that in the freezer, it'll keep it cold. It'll keep it cold. It's not going to break. Yeah, she receives the crystal skate statuette, finishing first. She also goes to the U.S. Championships that year and finishes third there. So she's slowly. She's doing it. It. Championships that year and finishes third there.

So she's moving slowly. She's doing it. It was sixth, now it's third. She's moving up the ladder. 88, 89, 90 season at the Skate America competition, she finishes first. She wins that, too. Now she's starting. This is when she starts coming into her own to where people are going, oh, boy, she's going to be in the Olympics. Yeah.

We've got to keep an eye on her because there's a handful of them this is there's only a handful of them like to have the talent to do whatever you have to have the physical ability that's a certain physical ability and then to actually have that harnessed and had somebody take you to an ice skating rink every fucking day and do all that it's pretty rare i mean if if we made every kid try to figure skate there'd probably be a shitload of figure skaters that are all really good yeah we'd get some like NFL wide receiver who's an incredible athlete with a 52

inch vertical jump he'd go out there spinning and flipping and doing all sorts of shit but nobody put that kid on ice skates unfortunately it's a majority of tons of tiny white people yeah that's what's out there fucking thighs the size of treats. Tanya Harding's thighs are muscular.

Oh my God. Like a horse. Yeah, just muscle and muscly and thick. Yeah, she looked athletic as shit. Tanya Harding. She's like a white trash Cinderella right now. Right now, yeah. With her own glass.

Oh, she's even got her own glass ice skate jimmy and it fits her little foot even beautiful yeah she has to pour brandy out to get it in there but she still gets like a lubricant gets that chubby foot in that's all right in there now uh at the nation's cup which it's uh it's also called the bow frost cup on ice i don't know what it was called the fuji film trophy for a couple years and then it was called the nation's cup for about seven years there. They just changed the name of it a million times, probably based on sponsors. It was a senior figure skating competition held in Germany.

And she finishes first in that this year also. So not too shabby. This is the first year it's called the Nations Cup. Then she goes to the U.S. Championships that same year and finishes seventh. So that's got to sting. She's gone around the world, Germany, Russia, and now she comes back and finishes seventh. You never know, though, in figure skating. She might have fallen.

There might have been one snag. Who knows? Figure skating is like, oh, did you see that? No. Whenever they go, if you watch that, that something will happen and they'll go oh no and you're like what what happened what happened and they show it wiggled you replace now her foot here it's supposed to be at a 45 degree angle she's got at a 65 degree angle so obviously her all of her training in four years and her whole life's work are ruined now it's all over

sorry like what the fuck just happened i didn't even see that jesus christ you're not even it's not even clear right at least it's like boxing you can tell who won most of the time like this is crazy you have no fucking idea that's probably why they shoot all the fire and shit like that now to distract you from the fuck ups that they make crazy fucking music you need it uh march 18th 1990 is a magical day speaking of cinderella she's she's had her prince come put the slipper on and she marries jeff galooly really oh yeah she marries him she's 19 years old he's 22 uh she told uh a journalist for a local newspaper about this time period that uh uh she tells him in 1992 she tells this reporter that, you know, people could say whatever they want about Jeff.

But she says, Jeff always put food on the table and a roof over my head. He paid for my skating for a couple of years. If it hadn't been for if it hadn't been for him during that time, I wouldn't have been skating. So Jeff takes the mother's role of someone. If you're skating that much to where you want to be an olympian you can't you probably can't work 12 hours a day and then go skate the rest of the time you probably need to train harder than that so someone needs to take care of you at that point jeff probably has already also done a little bit of research to see like oh yeah he knows amazing athletes

oh he knows later on in life he saw the mary lou retton fucking uh weedies box and all that shit when growing up in the 80s and he was like hmm yeah these olympians seem pretty popular right you know this is yeah they're talking about the dream team next year now they're like hey this is fucking big shit bruce jenner seems to be doing real great right now he seems to be doing good i see big things for him in the future big things so and he was right. He was right. So, 1991. This is at the World Championships now. The World Figure Skating Championships. They call them the Worlds as opposed to the Nationals. Very clever, all these athletes and the way they name their tournaments.

An annual figure skating competition that's sanctioned by the International Skating Union. Obviously, they give medals and shit like that. No glass slipper skates unfortunately uh i guess they say with the exception of an olympic medal this world title is considered the highest competitive achievement in figure skating really so this it's the olympics and then this okay so and then your different countries go based on whatever but yeah us if you're into that but yeah so this is a big deal uh this one here she finishes second in this competition well that's great for her though that looks good that she's on the right

path every time you say where she finishes if it's not first i assume it's all carrigan no it's not actually at all because this is when carrigan starts to get this is when carrigan starts to her her rise up and it's like tanya was kind of getting there and then and then all of a sudden now nancy's biting at her heels got it uh christy yamaguchi actually really wins first in this one uh yeah she she's the one who should have been getting clubbed if she wanted to win because she this yamaguchi kicks a match she never didn't fucking lose i guess i mean she's, she's the original Michelle Kwan. Not, I did.

No, he said, no, I didn't. Yeah. You met our first Asian figure skater without any accent. Is that what you meant, Jimmy?

He didn't, didn't try to offer you fried rice at all. So you're like, Oh, she didn't even offer me an egg roll. I mean, like you racist. I'm fucking around. I know what you, the first dominant. I me an egg roll. I mean, like you racist. I'm fucking around.

I know what you mean. The first dominant Asian American. And she was damn good. Jesus, was she good. No, she was really good. She wins. She wins this competition. It's weird, too.

Working in her family's restaurant 14 hours a day. She still managed to pull it together enough. Jesus Christ. I took a break from sewing all those nikes and just really put it together god damn it her family's home was a restaurant slash sweatshop it was a sweatshop in the basement and a restaurant in the second floor that's terrible she was building sweatpants all day awful That is awful. And so Tanya was second. And in third place, Nancy Kerrigan. Here she comes. She comes creeping up the backside on her.

The next one is the NHK Trophy. She finishes second there. Tanya does. U.S. Championships in Minneapolis now. She finishes first. She finally gets it. She did. This season, 1991.

She finishes first in Minneapolisneapolis yamaguchi number two and nancy kerrigan third how about so there's a top three i mean it's just all these competitions are it's just you can jumble the names and it's one's gonna because like we said if you're oh her foot was 10 degrees off so you know that and how about that there aren't very many like uh single person sports like that where those like the whole country the best and there's the three that are like if you're watching that you have to be like i can't believe i'm being able to watch three olympic athletes that are some of the best at their and that's sport that's what it is you knew that was going to happen here uh now at the olympic

u.s olympic festival that year she finishes second i think yamaguchi won so they're just trading you know and they're all gonna go to the olympics they know it so they're all fucking happy they must be thrilled now 91 92 uh this is the world championships she finishes six that year but that doesn't matter because she pulls off some crazy shit in 91 at the skate america championship she wins first first place and this is when she breaks through to where everybody in skating notices her because she becomes the first woman to complete a triple axel in a short program

competition. So she actually pulls it off. And then she's the first woman to execute two triple axels in a single competition. This is all in this one in the Skate America deal. Then she's the first ever to complete a triple axel in combination with a double toe loop okay i don't know what that looks like but uh she did it in combination with another move she's the first ever female to do that that wasn't the first woman she's just the first ever to do that unbelievable and uh first woman

to do the other thing so she was pushing the envelope that's the other thing too she wasn't complacent she was like i am going to fucking be the best i'll try moves that no no one else is trying and doing and that's how bad she wanted it yeah you got a roof for someone like that that's pretty cool i didn't know that yeah i mean it's like tony hawk in the 720 or 1280 whatever the fuck he did totally it's exactly what he was did she is but she was she was pushing it and she's only fucking 20 years old she's 20 she's pushing it or she's got a tough childhood and she's married to galooly for christ's sake just his name the guy's fucking name it doesn't matter he could be senator galooly and it would just be like everything he does is

stupid you know who signed that bill galooly no propose that one galooly that's right it's like he sponsored it it's his committee it's like google auto with his dumb last day and it ended up being a joke also because his contract's fucking stupid you know who missed the last shot of the game fucking fucking googs that's who he googled it hard fucking googled it right off the back of the rim yeah terrible Yeah. Terrible. What a fucking mess. Yeah. So U.S. Championships that year. She finishes third, Tanya does, behind, I'll give you a guess.

Yamaguchi and Kerrigan? Yamaguchi, Kerrigan, Harding. All right. So every competition is a jumble of the three. Just pick your one. Now, March 1st, 1992, after that, Harding gave her, she was coached by Diane Rawlinson, and then she switched coaches to somebody else. And she fired her new coach that she's had for a couple years now and returned to Diane Rawlinson after this competition. So she felt like her coaching wasn't what she wanted right then.

She wasn't winning. Right. So it's the coach's fault, obviously. I want to do the triple axel. Every time. If I can't do it, it's your fault. So that was then. Now, 92, there's the Winter Olympics.

It's weird because they have these every two years. I don't understand what's going on. Is that what goes on with those? But there's not. It's in France. But 92 had the Summer Olympics, and they do them every... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

There was some competition around something that had to do with the Olympics in this fucking thing, but it wasn't the main Olympics because that's in 94. Right, because that's every four years, but it's every two years for Olympics, but it's like Summer, Winter, Summer, Winter. Right, exactly. So this, I don't know exactly what it was, but it was some deal here. Now, Yamaguchi wins gold. Oh, shit. Midori Ito of Japan wins silver.

That bitch. Nancy Kerrigan wins bronze. Tanya Harding is fourth. Oh, no. So Midori Ito came in on the group and pushed her to the non-metal position. Ouch. Which sucks. No podium.

That's no podium, but still still she's there she's in the top four she's still strong grace no that's grace that is going to be grace i would say right now that is uh yeah it's it's where it's where it kind of takes a left turn okay or a right turn or downward spiral or every whatever fucking direction you want to put it a u-turn a triple axle march 11th 1992 yes uh she's driving her pickup truck and this is going to come up she always has a pickup truck in in marginal working order as we'll find out a lot of pickup truck news stories with her just tons of shit uh She's driving her pickup truck near the rink where she trains. She pulls up behind another car. In the car is a woman named Kay Brooks.

This Kay Brooks has stopped at a red light and waiting to make a right turn at the red light. Apparently, Tanya wanted to make a right turn, too, and this lady wasn't turning right on red quite fast enough for Tanya. And according to the police, quote, reportedly, miss miss harding was stopped behind miss brooks and honked her horn uh after turning both drivers stopped and got out of their cars they became involved in a verbal dispute and what they call a slight altercation which is a slight altercation was as the police pulled up to the scene uh Tanya was screaming and holding a baseball bat and yelling at the woman as she cowered from this baseball bat that Tanya had in her hand.

The deputy, according to the report, the deputy asked Miss Harding to put the bat down and she complied. Well, that's mighty nice of her. That's good. They shouldn't take a cut at the cop. I am. I am. I don't understand. What have you done in traffic?

I've never been into a place where I got out of the vehicle. I don't give a shit about traffic. Really? I'll yell in the car and stuff, but I don't see people. I'm so in my own. I don't care. I've done some things. I just don't care.

I've flicked cigarettes into people's cars. That's not bad. That's not bad. Yeah. I've done enough things to where i feel like a dickhead but this seems this seems a little much that's for a right on red by you know that's the that's the uh response to flicking a cigarette into somebody's car like i should i should expect a man to get out with a baseball i would expect that too yeah yeah but if you didn't if you took a little too long to turn right on red i wouldn't expect the baseball bat to come at me and that's also not what got the the cigarette

flicked no yeah there were words exchanged and then the man spit into my vehicle okay so that's that's tit for tat i guess and then he scrambled in his car to find the cigarette and then i peeled out that's smart because he was big well yeah it's a smart move jimmy yeah distract him with the cigarette and then i. I like that. That's good. That's good. It's just animals behave like that. I like that.

Distract and then I can get away from the predator. Smart. Throwing a steak to a bear. It's like a nature channel show. It's good. So now the police said nobody was injured and no criminal charges were filed and the cop made them apologize to each other. Put the bat down and apologize, please, which is amazing.

That's how you defuse lady fights, because otherwise, if it's two dudes, a dude's got a baseball bat, somebody's getting tased. Oh, someone's getting arrested, tased. Well, he's going to get out with his gun out, first of all. You see a five-foot-one blonde girl, a 21-year-old blonde girl with a five foot one blonde girl like 21 year old blonde girl the baseball bat you're like all right sweetheart put the bat day listen honey come on you're some asshole cop he's like get the fuck out come on what are you doing let's go give me the can over the back what are you doing ladies uh problem is afterwards uh uh later on after no charges were filed and everybody went their separate ways, a passenger in the car, in Tanya's car,

was quoted telling a Portland television station that Brooks punched Harding and that Harding punched her back and broke Brooks' glasses and then went and got the baseball bat. So that's when the cop pulled up, was after they had already exchanged blows. And now weaponry had become involved.

And then the cop comes in and they go no we're fine everything's fine we're just having an argument everything's cool right right yeah everything's good yeah they shake hands and apologize and pick up your ray-bans yeah everybody goes on their fucking way here whoever was in the passenger seat they didn't get out of the car now can you imagine watching that just oh man through the windshield it's like a great television show oh did she? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. She hit her back.

Oh, my God. Is she going to hit me now? She reaches behind the seat, pulls out a fucking. Oh, man. That's a baseball bat. Okay. This just got really, really real. She just pulled out her Ken Griffey Jr. model.

This is going to get dangerous. Jesus Christ. So that's the first indication that Tanya has got. There's a certain white trashery that pumps through her veins. Oh, it's bubbling. It never goes away. 92-93 season, she skates in the Skate Canada International. Back to skating.

Back to skating. Back on the ice in a sequined, frilly costume. Looking like a lady. No baseball bat whatsoever in that one there. Finishes fourth there. In the U.S. Championships that year, she finishes fourth as well. Nancy Kerrigan was the winner of the U.S. Championships there. July 93, the honeymoon's over between her and Galooly, unfortunately.

You'd think that's a marriage like that when you meet someone when you're 15. His name's Galooly. It's going to last forever. It's obviously going to last forever, but it doesn't. Jeff apparently is a little rough, and Tanya files a restraining order against him in July of 93. So good for you. If he's fucking roughing you up, get out of there. Good job.

She files a restraining order against him. August 28th, 93, she divorces Jeff. Over. So over with. Yeah. Clear that out. Done. She's going to have a new chapter in her Jeff. Over. So over with. Yeah. Clear that out. Done. She's going to

new chapter in her life. Totally. Fall of 93 Galooly is working part time managing Tanya's career. Part time? What?

He's he's part time figure skating career manager and he's also taking real estate classes because I don't know

what I don't know. Who the fuck is why is she why does she still have him in her life well because by october they're hooked up again and they move into a rental home together in oregon so all right restraining order divorce two months later back together he's her manager it's a fucking mess this is a typical abusive relationship it's an abusive relationship mixed with athletics which she's doing exactly the same thing that every male criminal athlete does every time. It's doing the same thing, except it's just a reverse thing.

And chasing that possible carrot of fame and fortune and wealth beyond belief later. Absolutely, except she's the one being abused is the only difference. Now, nobody understands that her former agent, a guy named Michael Rosenberg, said, quote, I don't know why they stay together. It's like asking your friends why they're why they marry the wrong people. They're incompatible, incompatible, but they're in love. They fight and they make up and it's all lovey dovey. Passionate. He's like, I don't even know.

Fuck. So they fuck and they fight. Yeah, they have. This is a fiery relationship that should be over when you're 16 and a half and done with. Right. And surprisingly, there's no children involved right now. No, that's no kids. That's no.

That's the other part that makes it fucking even crazy. She kids are not part of her. No reason to stay together. That's none. Kids are not part of her of her plan because you can't do a triple axel. You're eight months pregnant. So she does not want kids until her physical career is over. And she makes that perfectly clear.

She wrote in requesting the restraining order to begin with, quote, It has been an abusive relationship for the past two years, and he has assaulted me physically with with his open hand and fist. He told me to watch my back. And if he saw me out with any of my friends he would stop me that's what the restraining order said so that's not that's abusive that sounds scary yeah sounds like something she needs to get the fuck away from yeah she entered into this relationship and the thing is i don't know if she feels like that's a some people some people are afraid to get out of

relationships that can easily get out of them because she has the resources here she you know she's getting famous she can get out of this sort of thing. But some people feel like then they're a failure. Yeah. Which you're not a failure just because your relationship didn't work. Like the relationships of failure. That's all. But you take some people take that as like,

I made a bad decision and like they feel embarrassed about it. It's like, don't feel embarrassed about that shit. That's just bad decisions. I've made a ton of bad decisions. This is horrible. But she backslides into him and ends up dropping the restraining order uh right before they get back together yeah you know so they could legally be in the same room together that's that's important in a relationship you can compare a relationship to a business opportunity

where the guy that started mcdonald's that's unbelievably successful yeah had like a hundred failed business off yeah everybody every every, everybody. Every successful business. Marriages are the same way. Yeah, it's the same shit. You can have a hundred failed marriages. Who gives a shit? Not a good idea to keep getting married. Maybe it doesn't suit you.

I don't encourage it. No. Maybe you're the problem. Maybe it's, could have been them. 99 times. Maybe my dad who's been married eight times. Roll those dice. It's probably you, dude.

Maybe you. Could be you, sir. Eight times. Yeah. Just stop getting married. I say three is your limit. Yeah. Once you hit three. It's like there's one happened when we were young. Right. you dude maybe you yeah eight times yeah you might not just stop getting married yeah i say three is your limit i yeah once you hit three it's like there's one having one we were young and two i don't know we had a financial thing and our business fell apart and our relationship

the third time that's it it's enough now you can't you're done between my my ex-wife and you're not good at me her dad and her mom my dad and my mom there's like 18 failed marriages that's that's yeah and my dad's half of them that's amazing that's fucking amazing but this this these two though i don't understand it yeah i don't understand what her deal is uh they said that uh her friends and relatives said they would have constant arguments uh violent arguments uh uh her stepfather uh tanya's stepfather, said, quote, Hell, if she looked at someone, he would get mad. He'd manipulate her real easy.

He had such a possessive nature and is jealous of her. So it's obvious here, the whole thing. But while this is going on, she finishes third in the Skate America, which is in August. So she did that while she was in the middle of a divorce and had restraining orders over her head. Imagine if she had her thoughts together. That's what I mean. For all thoughts together. That's what I mean. For all of this.

That's what I mean. If she had an upbringing like somebody else that was more stable, less crazy, less chaos, less shit going on, she might have been able to focus. She might have been insane. She's fourth at the NHK trophy that year as well. She was insane. She was. We'll find out. We'll see how maybe she still is.

What about Nancy Kerrigan's home life was? Probably good, I imagine. Although her brother got arrested for beating up her grandfather or some shit like that. What the fuck? Yeah, there's some weird character. There's a weird thing with her family.

Nothing to do with her, but her family. A young person in her family got arrested for beating up like a 75 year old family member, which is fascinating. I didn't have time to go into it too deeply to real quick. I didn't really relate to this, but our friend Brandon Kerrigan, who lives in Baltimore,

his, that's his cousin. Interesting. Interesting. Oh, wow. Isn't that fascinating? That is fascinating.

Interesting. Well, he's probably heard all about this. Enjoy this story. Tell you. So the 1994 year, this is as crazy a year as any human being's ever had, pretty much, like in the public eye. This is, you can't get any more eventful, wacky, up and down, roller coaster, whatever.

So January 4th, 1994, the U.S. championships are in a few days. They're on the 7th. She arrives. They're in Detroit. championships are in a few days. They're on the 7th. She arrives. They're in Detroit. She arrives in Detroit to skate at these. Tanya does. She tells the press, makes a statement, says, let me tell you, I'm going to go there and kick some butt.

So that's her plan. She's going to go kick some butt. Now, January 6th, 1994, the day before the championships in Detroit, uh nancy kerrigan's there too because they're all in the event sure uh she's walking behind a curtain to a corridor uh at this point and we'll go over the whole scandal quickly because we've heard about it before and i found like some points i didn't know about those are the ones i i emphasize pretty much the main ones were brushstroken because you've heard it before uh now she's walking behind a corridor when uh jesus christ this is amazing what is this uh stant is her as this guy's

name shane stant uh he's a 22 year old guy at the time uh he rushes up behind her and uh swings a uh asp telescopic baton at her so it's like a police baton. Yeah, those metal ones. Metal, yeah. They're fucking nasty batons. They hurt. Yeah, they hurt bad. Apparently, he used both hands like a baseball bat to swing it at her leg

and hit her just above her knee on her right leg. Okay, Nancy Kerrigan. This is, it was a 21-inch long baton. Now, so Kerrigan goes down, and if everybody's seen the footage of her screaming and crying and uh doing the why thing she really does not hold her dignity together at all i gotta be honest

i gotta be honest with you like i've seen a lot of sports injuries and that's the first time i've ever seen that reaction guys break their necks and they don't fucking react like that they don't go why why why she didn't say ouch she said why why it's like why me it was a very like i know there's cameras and i know she was hurt and i feel bad for her but like i said i've seen it didn't break a bone did it no that's the thing and it didn't break a thaisman was his career was fucking over joe saw his bones sticking out looking at him on national television and he didn't go why why he just went fuck somebody fucking help me jesus christ this hurts up we got a game to win holy shit oh my god this is bad this is a bad one. Come on. He didn't go, why? So that's what I mean.

But she laid on the ground and said, why? And screamed and yelled. Like I said, not to make fun of her. She's a victim of an assault. But for fuck's sake, Jesus Christ, you didn't get shot in the fuck. You know, fucking Lee Harvey Oswald didn't scream. Why? He got shot in the stomach.

Protesters get smacked with those batons over and over and over again. And aren't laying on the ground screen why fuck no why they get like seven shots from those goddamn things yeah and they get thrown in a cop car and they're like fuck you pigs yes spitting on the window so her leg was not broken but it was severely bruised as i can imagine getting whacked with that's gonna bruise you a little bit so she cried over the bruise as i can imagine getting whacked with that's gonna bruise you a little bit so she cried over the bruise she got a little bruise um it's figure skits not like she's not a linebacker but she's fallen on the fucking ice yeah that hurts that hurts way worse she apparently that she probably thought her leg was broken i i think too it's one of those things where it's like uh they say psychologically people fall down when they get shot because they think that's what they're supposed to do right it's just they see in movies and tv and people get shot and they fall down

well you don't fall down unless the blood isn't pumping enough to your extremities to make them work so you've hit a nerve you know with some nervous system shit otherwise you can generally otherwise you're fine that's i mean you're fine but you're shot but you can keep running but people fall because that's what they think. And I think she got clubbed in the leg and said, they broke my leg. They fucking fell on the ground. That was her trained response was to fall on the ground. My whole life is over.

Why? And that was it. So, yeah. Now, like I said, it's funny, too, because coming from both of our backgrounds, we're not upper class backgrounds or anything like that so i was much more in tanya harding's yeah i was like yeah fuck her and her fucking she's so perfect that nancy kerrigan you know now i'm like obviously you know whatever but as a kid yeah it was like oh the other one at least she's got you know she's like a real person

i don't know this princess you know and i and I was 15. I didn't know any better. But interviewing Tanya on this over in the corner. Would you see what happened to Nancy? And she's like chugging a beer. She's like, I don't know. Who flicks the cigarette butt at her? I just flicked the cigarette in her car. I didn't think anything would happen.

Oh, you mean her knee? That was a separate thing. My bad. Pissed in her sunroof. I right i squatted over it and boom right down there uh now this all but this does force nancy to withdraw from the u.s championships this year so she can't skate because that's the next day a bruise but it's a it's a it's a severe it's a deep you wouldn't want to fucking land on it like a bone bruise yeah she got whacked with a fucking yeah that that had to hurt like a bastard i'm sure it

hurt like a son of a bitch broken or not was it on the front or on the side on the side it was on the side like kind of off to the side right above the knee okay uh so if you hit the knee it hurt like it had to hurt it had to i mean we're obviously joking that had to hurt like a bastard uh she was was forced to uh get out of there and uh she couldn't retain her title because she was the champ last year. So the next day, January 8th, they have the competition. And Tanya wins. Oh, look at that. Weird.

Tanya wins. She's the new champ. She finally wins it. Both Kerrigan and Harding are selected for the 94 Olympic team out of this. Because they don't hold this against Nancy that she couldn't compete. because obviously it was not really something she had anything to do with. And we know she's good. She won last year. She won last year and then Tanya won.

And at this point, it's, you know, they don't know if she has anything to do with it. They don't think that. They don't think the other chick skating with her. The one who won. The one that benefited from this? Yeah. No, no. So never.

Yeah. So Michelle Kwan finishes second, by the way, here. This is like benefited from this? Yeah. Never. Never. Yeah. So Michelle Kwan finishes second, by the way, here. This is like her first. Could have been her. There you go. She is also, too, she's the first female to do a triple axel in this competition. Really? First one to do a triple axel, which means she watched all three Beverly Hillscott movies

in one day. So good job it was hard it was very hard uh to get through that third one it was a tough one she had a she loved one yeah and then two she was like i mean it's still betty murphy it's pretty funny and then the third one she's like where are they disneyland now what's going on it's a piece of shit he doesn't even look like he's interested in it he stopped improvving this is all script he just doesn't care anymore. We get it. Judge Reinhold loves bazookas.

What the fuck? Yeah, what's going on with that? Jesus Christ. Now, who did all this? What ended up happening? Well, Harding, she has a bodyguard who is a good friend of Jeff Galooly, a lifelong friend of Galooly. What? Yes, a bodyguard, a 26-year-old, 311-pound guy who is one of Galooly's best friends.

Oh, Harding does. Tanya does. Got it. Yeah, so that's her bodyguard. Wait, I thought we were talking about Carrion. Go on, sorry. Well, he ends up being the first to be talked to by the police, as we'll talk about here. He ends up, the FBI is investigating this.

Really? Because it's like an interstate thing. And they apparently, they think that Eckhart and Gallulli orchestrated the attack on the whole thing. They first get this information on January 11th, 1994, so it's like two days later, when a 24-year-old Portland minister named Eugene Sanders tells investigators he's heard a tape of Eckhart Gallulli and another friend discussing the hit. They called it the hit. So that that leads to a further investigation. They talked to Eckhart and he has no loyalty to Tanya Harding.

He doesn't give a shit. He just doesn't want to go to prison. Right. So he ends up figure, you know, fingering Gallulli in this whole thing and saying, well, you might want to talk to Jeff about this whole deal, planning it and planning the cover up. Also dragged into this is this Shane Stant who we talked about. He's the actual clubber. He's a 22-year-old convicted felon and bounty hunter. Oh, my God.

So a lot of good stuff there for him. He's doing great. That doesn't sound like somebody Nancy Kerrigan knows. No, probably not. It doesn't sound like someone Tanya Harding should be knowing at this point. She doesn't have to know these people anymore. He is currently, at this point in the story, living in Chandler, Arizona. Really?

Yeah, Phoenix suburb, as we know. He had just moved down there. His 29-year-old uncle, who is Derek Smith, lives in Phoenix. He is a janitor and paramilitary enthusiast. That's a terrifying man. A janitor and a paramilitary. Yeah, your janitor who's just sitting there quiet all day, mopping. If he goes home and puts on military uniforms and dicks with fucking guns

and turning shit fully auto, that's a guy you need to watch. He's a problem. I hope he's not a janitor in a fucking school. Let's fucking hope not. He is the getaway driver. He's the guy who drove Shane's getaway car. These are the two, a paramilitary enthusiast janitor and a felonious bounty hunter are who they've chosen to.

Psychos. A high-level job here. Apparently, Stant and Derek Smith, who is Stant's uncle, were hired by Galooly and Sean Eckert. After they tried to find her in Massachusetts at her own training rink, where she normally trains, and couldn't find her. So then Stant took a 20-hour bus trip to Detroit. What? It's a fucking long bus trip. A whole day on a bus.

20 hours to Detroit is the bus. They couldn't even fucking fly him there. That's how low budget this operation is. $69.95 Greyhound. If you can't fly your hitman to where he needs to go, you can't afford a hit. Period. You can't afford it. You need to save up

to pay for accommodations for your hitman. That is a real budget hit. That's a budget hit. We're going to have to send you Greyhound. This operation has nothing, huh? Okay. Jesus Christ. Unbelievable.

It's fucking nuts. So January 11th, this is all within three days. This is all happening on the same day, January 11th. They're talking to Eckhart. He's fingering Galooly. And Jesus Christ. It wouldn't even be bad if his name wasn't galooly that's the thing if i said he's fingering smith you'd go yeah he fingered him in the crime but he's fingering

a galooly sounds like some dipshit fucking frat boy's name for a vagina is the problem he's like oh man she had a hairy galooly on i'll tell you that much but it felt fucking good i you know you forget about it once you're in there listen with this grass on the galooly table that's it it's right on the galooly so jesus christ if the galooly bleeds it breathes you know what i'm saying this story jesus how did this not take place in florida this story is so fucked up and for 25 years it's been going on i don't think i've ever heard anybody refer to a galooly as a vagina so we've broken through to something i think i feel like we've found a new spin on the story i figured we would we needed to do it so uh they jesus christ uh tanya talks to Ann Schatz, who is a, yeah, every name is worse than the last.

I can't. Ann Schatz. Yes, she does. I can't do anything with that. Well, she did. Past tense, Jimmy. So she doesn't currently. The Schatz interviews Tanya for a TV station in Portland. K-I-O-N.

Coin, I guess. Shatz asks Tanya if Tanya considered whether someone she knew had planned to attack Nancy, maybe. And Tanya answered, quote, I have definitely thought about it. No one controls my life but me. If there's something in there that I don't like, I'm going to change it. Which is not an answer to the question. No's not that is not a no i've thought about it and no one controls my life but me okay that's not what i asked at all if there's something there i don't like i'll get rid of it yeah but if i ask them to do it then i'll be happy about it and i won't get rid of it

so jesus christ uh she also confirmed that she spoke with fbi agents in both uh detroit and when she got home in portland now january 11th like we said they're talking to eckert uh uh smith is arrested derrick smith and shane shane stant are there's warrants out for uh stant but smith is arrested on the 13th of january and uh sean eckert is officially arrested there i guess they were waiting to arrest him to arrest the other people so they wouldn't be tipped off basically because i think a janitorial paramilitary enthusiast he might not have a lot of ties might have the propensity to disappear disappear in a fucking cave somewhere who knows uh so they find out smith derrick smith's a former

he worked at a place called tektronix Inc. He worked there. He went to work four years ago before this for a place called Developmental Systems of Milwaukee, supervising mentally challenged adults in their workplaces. Jesus, really? So that's what this guy did. Yeah. The felonious bounty hunter was a, he watched. Developmental, he watched, he's a babysitter. Not necessarily a babysitter. He was just a parah, basically.

Yeah. So now in the last year before this, he became involved in a company called Blackstone, which is a Switzerland-based industrial counter-espionage and counter-terrorism organization. Which sounds terrible. And I guess Eckert, who is the bodyguard, he was also involved in that same organization, according to his resume that he had given someone else. So that's where they think they know each other, tie them together. Stant surrenders the next day to the FBI in Phoenix

and is charged with conspiring to assault Nancy. While he's being arrested in Phoenix, though, his grandmother, May Loomis, is cited for menacing after going after reporters who had gone to her home to interview her about her grandson being arrested in the most famous case that's happening right now uh she apparently tried to assault a reporter for that which is pretty fucking cool i hope it was mike watkiss yeah yeah no shit it was a kgw i think it was a portland report okay so it wasn't even here no no it was he was arrested here she this was in corbett oregon okay this was a yeah they went to talk to her and she said you get off my y'all get off my porch and fired three shotgun rounds into the air probably she threw some cats at her i picture it's her like the the cat lady in uh in the simpsons the one that has his cats all around her she throws them at

people on her body yeah like on her body so uh on her person yeah family or simpsons i don't know shit i got that one mixed up i'm not sure simpsons i think it's it sounds like simpsons uh but then at one point i remember adam west shooting cats at people never mind okay that's where it's from anyway so now it's a long adam west and the family guy episode he made a cat crossbow when he was shooting cats at people that's what i was thinking of all right i thought it was family why are we why are we bringing up Batman? What's happening there? Now, Stant is charged with second-degree conspiracy to commit assault, obviously. Now, Stant, he told investigators at this point that Harding was involved, involved in the conspiracy, quote, from way back. And they said the case may be prosecuted. At this point, they were not saying whether Tanya was a suspect or not.

They said, because at first, his stance denials were not very convincing, and they would get less and less declarative. At first, they said, was Harding involved in this? He said, absolutely not. And then they asked the police about it, and they said, you know, is Tanya involved in this? And the police said, the investigation's continuing, and we can neither confirm nor deny that. And then they said, after that, a couple days go by, and they said, how about now? And he goes, well, you can draw your own conclusions by what's going on. All of her friends are around.

It goes by there. Well, we'll see. Smoking fire and shit like that. You know how that goes. What's Stant's first name that one is is it Shane Shane

Shane Stant Derek Smith got it fucking names and Sean Eckert that's too many it's too many for me I got it

last names only last names only babe that's what I was going for Stant Smith Eckert going there only reason I ask because in Phoenix I know a Stant family

they're from Oregon these Stants okay these Stants are from fucking Hawaii. Okay. Entirely different family. I would think so.

I hope so, for their sake. I hope their grandmother isn't chasing people off the porch. January 15th, 1994. Harding and Gallulli together speak with reporters, but they stand in front of reporters, speak with them, but decline to comment about the investigation. What the fuck are you talking to people about? You think they want to know about your double fucking toe loop or whatever the hell? I don't know.

No, they want to know, did you club that lady? So, yeah, her attorney on the 16th reads a statement on her behalf, just denying involvement in the attack. And at that point, Tanya Harding spoke to reporters on that day, and then she went to practice where all the reporters followed her to stare at her. From now on, she has a gaggle of reporters outside her house, everywhere she goes. They're all there. So she goes and pops off a triple axel in practice for the reporters to fuck yourself,

try to nudge them a little bit. Now, January 18th, 1994, Tanya submits to questioning by the district attorney and the FBI with her lawyers. She's interviewed for over 10 hours. That's brutal. That's a lot of questioning. Can you imagine that? God damn. Of like intense.

Yeah. Especially if you're trying to be evasive. That sounds like a nightmare. Strategy questions. These are questions that are built to... They've thought about it. They've done this before. Five guys put together.

These are built to make you uncomfortable and say some shit you don't want to say. Ten hours of that shit. Ten hours. Eight hours into the interview, her lawyer issued a statement. This is funny. Announcing her separation from Jeff Gallulli. He says, quote, I continue to believe that Jeff is innocent of any wrongdoing.

I wish him nothing but the best. In the middle of her interrogation, this is the press release that she gives out, which is odd. Now, a full transcript was released to the press here, and they said basically that Harding changed her story well into a long interview. After hours of denying any involvement in trying to cover up the plot.

An FBI agent finally told her that he knew that she lied to him and that he would tell her exactly how she lied to them. And in the transcript's final passage, Harding stated, quote, I hope everyone understands. I'm telling on someone I really care about. I know now Jeff is involved, and I'm sorry. So now she basically said, like, you convinced me that he's involved. Okay, I guess he's involved. So after eight hours, she was like, he's involved. I got to break up with him.

Yeah, I'm breaking up with him. Hold on, let's get this press release out. Let's get that out to everybody. We'll finish this up. We'll finish this, and then I'll, you know, I feel terrible, you know. So January 19th, the next day, Galooly surrenders to the fbi because she just told him whatever so uh january 20th this is a fast month man two less than three weeks ago two weeks ago she was the champion right literally 13 days before that she's the

bell of the ball and now this is happening she appears on primetime live with diane sawyer's diane sawyer and says she hasn't done anything wrong. She doesn't know what everybody's talking about. Leave me alone. Right. I feel bad for Nancy, but it has nothing to do with me. Right. Even though everyone I know is arrested for it.

Nothing. Everybody was just trying to give me a real nice late Christmas gift. That's it. People are friendly. They just try to help. Oregon's a very friendly place. That's what it is. That's it.

People are friendly. They just try to help. Oregon's a very friendly place. That's what it is. If it happens to be that they take some competition out of a lineup for you, that's just being sweet. What do you want from me? So January 27, 1994, it comes out that Galooly has been talking about the plot for the last week and possibly implicating Tanya as having allegedly assisted. Tanya, she has a close friend

who she's living with. She spoke to report. She said, go out and talk to him for me. She sent her roommate out to talk to the reporters for her. Just tell him this. Imagine being your roommate. Well, you don't want to fucking

take a phone call for somebody. Just lie to him. Tell him I'm not here. Back in the before cell phones. Imagine having a hundred take a phone call for somebody. No. Just lie to them. Tell them I'm not here. No. Back in the before cell phones. Imagine having a hundred reporters. Just tell them something. No. This does not include.

I'm not paying for cable this month. You're getting all the electric this month. I'm out. I'm sorry. I'm out. You ate my leftovers yesterday and you want me to do this now? You know my name was on the Tupperware. You fucking know I wrote it.

I wrote it in marker. You fucking saw it. Don't tell me I rubbed off. It was Sharpie. Yeah. It's not my fault your boyfriend couldn't keep his galooly shut. Shit. You fucking know I wrote it. I wrote it in marker. You fucking saw it. Don't tell me you rubbed off. It was Sharpie. Yeah, it's not my fault your boyfriend couldn't keep his galooly shut. Shit, it's fucking galooly.

It's not me. Not my fault he's a galooly. She says, quote, Tanya was shocked, very hurt. She was believing in Jeff and what he was saying. So basically, they were just saying,

oh, she's such a victim. Her boyfriend, behind her back, went out and did this horrible thing right terrible well don't you feel bad for that seems real plausible what a shit story yeah uh let's give a statement finally january 28th 1994 she gives a statement okay and says this is her this is it this is what she wants to say to everybody. This is fucking amazing here. Now, we'll give the first part of it in their own words, because I can't do the whole thing

because I don't think my song's long enough. But we are going to do the first part of this in their own words. So we'll do in their own words, quote, I would like to begin by saying how sorry I am about what happened to Nancy Kerrigan. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to think anyone close to me could be involved. I was disappointed not to have the opportunity to complete compete against Nancy Nancy at nationals. I have a great deal of respect for Nancy.

My victory at nationals was unfulfilling without the challenge of skating against Nancy. I had no prior knowledge of the planned assault on Nancy Kerrigan. That's going to be the first part. That's the, in their own words there, just, that's just, I it's, it's hollow victory, because I didn't get to skate against her.

I want to beat the best. And she's a competitor, man. That's what it's all about. It's like every NFC team saying, we just want to beat the Patriots. That's it. We just want to go take them down. We want them. She says, quote, I am responsible, however, for failing to report things I learned about the assault when I returned home from nationals.

Many of you will be unable to forgive me for that. It will be difficult to forgive myself. When I returned home one day, January 10th, 1994, I was exhausted but still focused on the national championships. Within the next few days, I learned that some persons that were close to me may have been involved in the assault. My first reaction was one of disbelief, and the disbelief was followed by shock and fear. I have since reported this information to the authorities.

Although my lawyers tell me that my failure to immediately report this information is not a crime, I know I have let you down, but I have also let myself down. But I still want to represent my country in Lillehammer, Norway next month. Despite my mistakes and my rough edges, I have nothing. I have done nothing to violate the standards of excellence of sportsmanship that are expected in an Olympic athlete.

Nancy Kerrigan and I can show the world two different types of figure skating. I look forward to being on the team with her. I've devoted my entire life to one objective, winning an Olympic gold medal for my country. This is my last chance i ask only for your understanding and the opportunity to represent my country with the best figure skating performance of my life thank you that's it everything's fine she brushed over it quick and just i just want to be in the olympics olympics olympics how about your fucking boyfriend club the back up to that part right i just i'm so sorry i heard about it and i just you know i told him and then what i did isn't a crime so you know

don't get mad at me for it even though i know you are the other part is just like nobody does that to benefit there has to yeah the crime itself you know there's cameras fucking everywhere you have to go so far out of your way to do that. That's the thing. And for no benefit for yourself? Someone rode a bus for 20 hours. Right. You know what I'm saying?

And the only person that benefits from that is fucking you. Yeah, that's what I mean. You're the only person. And maybe Yamaguchi. Maybe some monetary gain. Maybe Christy Yamaguchi. She was involved. Yamaguchi did it. Those Yamaguchi. She was involved. Yamaguchi did it.

Sneak attacks. Pearl Harbor like a bastard. Like an old wrestling thing. Pearl Harbor job. They used to say that all the time in wrestling. A sneak attack was a Pearl Harbor job. Jesus Christ. So January 31st, 1994

is Super Bowl Sunday at the Dockside Saloon. And it's in like an industrial area here. There's a woman and her husband who they were doing restaurant maintenance on this place. I'm trying to think of the word. Maintenance. This lady, Kathy, she went to the garbage bin, opened it up and discovered items that were in the in the the middle of her dumpster. She was pissed off. She said there were bags and bags and bags of someone else's trash.

It was the bags we don't use. So we knew it wasn't ours. And they're fucking pissed off about it. Because if you know, well, you work at a restaurant, dumpster space is very valuable to you and you don't want people filling out your dumpster half full. So what she found in here she found a commuter ticket to detroit she fucking opened it up yeah she's like what is this shit who put this here a ticket from the ice skaters association and an envelope with doodles about nancy kerrigan's home arena uh called the tony kent arena she called the fbi

and uh left a message. She said, quote, the stuff I found that I thought was important, I thought that was important that I was going to turn over to the FBI, just put it in my car for safekeeping. She stuffs this shit in her car, calls the FBI and watches the Super Bowl.

They found in here Tanya and Jeff Gillooly's telephone records, notes found, handwritten by Tanya that they matched her handwriting to. Oh, no. Talking about, the one piece of evidence was an envelope. On the envelope, there was doodles, notes, phone numbers, and addresses, most of which

in Tanya's hand, a couple things in Jeff Galooly's hand. All about times, addresses, all about Nancy Kerrigan's training facility. Assholes. Assholes. Idiots. They said, we'll just throw it in some dumpster out and no one will find it. We don't want to put it in our garbage, but they stupid. You light it on fire, you idiot.

Or put in a goddamn apartment complex dumpster. You could put corpses in there. Nobody cares. They just throw couches on top of that shit. Nobody will be like, there's a corpse in here. The couch will fit on top. Just put it in. Fuck them.

They put bags around the can then no one cares inside it no one cares oh by the way in addition to this uh they find out today also that law enforcement investigators have been following and videotaping everybody since january 10th oh no they knew about payphone calls between people at certain times of right after they took so they would like goose them and talk to them and then see what they would do so they'd then go watch kaluli go talk back to her and tell her what happened and they yeah they would like goose them and talk to them and then see what they would do. So they'd go watch Galooly, go talk back to her and tell her what happened. And they would just send it back through the mix. February 1st, 94.

This is less than a month old. This happened three weeks ago. That's how crazy this is. Galooly's attorney negotiates a plea bargain. Now. A month ago, this wasn't even a thing. And now there's plea bargains happening. Someone's on inside edition. This is now a month ago. This wasn't even a thing. And now there's plea bargains happening. Someone's on inside edition.

This is fucking insane. An exchange for testimony regarding all involved parties in the attack. He said later on, by the way, he'll apologize and he'll say any apology coming from me rings must ring hollow to Nancy Kerrigan because now he's a good guy obviously uh galuli and eckert plead guilty to racketeering uh stanton smith uh those two idiots the janitor palat paramilitary guy and the felonious bounty hunter pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit second degree assault and uh we'll talk about how much time but all of them end up getting prison time really absolutely uh the judge also notes that it could have been a much more serious injury uh hitting people with batons like that. The Shane Stant guy here, they said he traveled to the Boston area.

They found out all this on December 29th. He stayed until January 3rd. They have telephone records that show Stant placed a call January 1st from his hotel to the rink where Kerrigan conducts her practice sessions. January 1st from his hotel to the rink where Kerrigan conducts her practice sessions. And Stant then moved to a hotel in Romulus, Michigan on January 4th. He receives a phone call there on January 5th from Galooly and Harding's home phone in Oregon. And on January 12th, they all confessed to the FBI. And Smith and Stant were, they said, unable to carry out in Boston, so they went to Detroit to do it.

Smith admitted driving the getaway car after being paid $2,000 for the show. Two grand. This whole thing was $2,000. And a bus ticket. And a bus ticket. So that's amazing, though. This whole thing, this whole entire giant famous thing where people are making movies about now. It's two grand.

Two grand, this whole plot. It's two grand. This whole plot. It's fucking insane. So February 2nd, 94. Now, like we said, everything she does, there's 50 reporters there from different countries. They're all over the place. They film her falling during practice multiple times. And then when she leaves, she goes out to drive away

and her pickup won't start. Oh, no. So she's sitting there trying to turn it over while 50 fucking news reporters are shouting shit out at her and clicking photos and screaming come on you piece of shit start not now she's got an alcohol triple a so actually she could probably fix it yeah get under that hood under the hood spraying starting fluid jesus christ so february 5th 1994 a disciplinary panel of u.S. Figure Skating Association, they stated reasonable grounds existed to believe Harding had violated the sports code of ethics. Her admitted failure to report information about an assault on a fellow competitor supported by her FBI transcripts resulting in Harding being formally charged with making false statements about her knowledge, which we'll talk about in a second.

The panel recommends that she face a disciplinary hearing. But Claire Ferguson, the president of the association, decided not to suspend Harding's membership before the hearing took place, which won't be till after the Olympics. So she's going to get to compete in the Olympics there. I do remember that. And they said even if the board had suspended her, she would have filed an emergency injunction that would have made it to the next hearing anyway. So either way, she would have definitely been able to compete in the Olympics. Now, February 7th, 1994, 30 days later, news media, again, they're all over her practices.

She, at one point during the practice, has to run out of the arena barefoot to stop a tow truck from hauling away her illegally parked pickup truck. Why would you park your truck illegally going into practice when you've got all those people? Probably nowhere to park because there's a shitload of reporters with vans and shit there. I don't know what it was. Park down the block because one of those people is going to call the fucking cops when you're inside. To watch you run out barefoot. Absolutely. So now she, in a week, her truck didn't start.

Now she's barefoot in the street trying to talk a tow truck driver out of towing her truck. It's futile. It's never happening. It's a fucking mess. February 10th, 1994, she talks to Connie Chung. Did she really? Sat down with Connie Chung. Also, she files a lawsuit now.

It's a lawsuit to retain her place on the figure skating team. It's to block the Olympic Committee's impending hearing on her eligibility. Also demands $20 million in damages. Whoa. $20 million. block the olympic committee's impending hearing on her eligibility also demands 20 million dollars in damages 20 million it's a 16 page suit asking for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction to stop their hearing in oslo uh this was wow she doesn't get 20 million let's just say that okay good uh yeah how do you get to that figure you think that that's what you're gonna make in your career if you don't have this uh slanderous information i don't know that's great pain and suffering that's a lot of fucking money being filmed barefoot trying to talk to a tow truck driver i'm not sure the indignity

the indignity her lawyer says quote she will take the ice and make everyone proud so that's good her coach says quote tanya is a girl who can skate. Let's fucking hope so. Unfortunately, she's had a hard time taking herself out of where she came from. It's hard. It seems hard for her to leave that world, just like every other athlete. She stayed home and it's the same shit. Gender makes no difference. No, it doesn't. There is a lot of athletes who've come from the wrong side of the tracks.

They've risen above that. My hope for Tanya is that she'll get herself up to where she should be. So her coach says now, February 15th 15th 1994 an explicit 1991 videotape clip of tanya topless was shown on a current affair which was a tabloid weird you know bullshit show uh these are still frames from a video clip uh these still frames are also published in the sun which is a british tabloid as we've all seen in the grocery store store stands uh the new york post reports that jeff galooly supplied the videotape you dick undisclosed what an asshole he's a piece of shit this guy yeah he's that guy he's a complete piece of shit he's a revenge porn isn't it it's pretty well it sort of is but then

it's kind of like she's in on it after a while. She sees the ball is rolling, so she might as well get a few bucks out of it. But it's still fucking, I don't know if it's revenge so much as it's cashing in. It's revenge porn, but it's not making money from it. Yeah, yeah. That's the difference. I think it's not. It's not just to spite someone where that's what I'm just thinking. Revenge.

Technically, it would be, but I think it's more of I'm a scumbag. Right. And I have this tape that could be worth money for someone. And someone else's privacy is of no meaning to me here. That's what happened with Tommy Lee and Pam Anderson, too. Yeah. Well, someone, I guess, took that tape. Right.

And they ended up getting paid for it. I think it was Joe Francis. Probably. I think that's true. I think that is true. He's probably got tapes of everyone fucking. I guess such a scumbag. He's got tapes of you fucking, Jimmy. I hope he. He's got tapes of everyone fucking. He's got tapes of you fucking, Jimmy. He's got tapes of me fucking.

He's got tapes of everyone fucking. I hope he vomits to it. So that's what happened there. By the way, not the last word on that videotape. February 17th, 1994, Kerrigan and Harding share the ice for a practice session. Oh, boy. They're on the same team.

That's awkward as fuck. I would say. How's that knee? What do you say to her? Hey, Nance, how's the knee doing? 400 press members are there to document this, as you can imagine. There's more press than people watching. Yeah.

Scott Hamilton worked himself up into a big tizzy about it, and he said the sport was being depicted as a tabloid event, which is true. Nancy Kerrigan wore the same skating costume at the practice session that she was wearing when she got clubbed. And Kerrigan, they asked her, was that on purpose or did you just not know?

And she said it was deliberate. She said, quote, humor is good. It's empowering. So yeah, even she gets it. Thanks, Nance. Thank you, Nancy Kerrigan. Good for you. Yeah. Beat some sense into her. deliberate she said quote humor is good it's empowering so yeah even she gets it thanks nance thank you nancy carrigan good for you yeah uh beat some sense into her so uh the olympics here uh tanya skates and in the middle of her free skate routine she stops and starts to cry do you remember seeing this put her hands on her face breaks the fuck down and cries telling the judges that her

laces had broken and the replacement laces were too short and she couldn't do her thing uh she uh the judges allowed to let her skate on uh allowed to let her redo it a little later on she could go back and do it she wound up coming in seventh in the free skate and eighth overall at the games uh not good oxana bayul won gold yes and nancy kerrigan won silver and became america's sweetheart you bet she went on snl yeah and she went on fucking wheaties boxes and everything you've ever seen disney remember the disney commercials with nancy kerrigan and you when she's fucking twirling and shit oh my god she was she got paid she was an ice capade princess for disney forever she got pay-hayed like a motherfucker.

But also we find out Kerrigan. I'm starting to like this, Nancy. The more research I do on Nancy Kerrigan, the more I fucking like her. Because not only because of that, I think that's cool. But then during the ceremony of the medal ceremony, she's captured on microphone. I don't know if you remember this, saying some shit about aksana bayul that's hilarious oh yeah uh she was i guess uh she was told that uh that uh bayul was causing a delay in the ceremony because she was redoing her makeup so kerrigan says oh come on so she's gonna get out here and cry anyway again what's the difference which is fucking great she's

just gonna ruin the cares about her fucking make come on get it over with later on when they asked her about she said i was afraid the crowd was losing enthusiasm and was starting to leave it wasn't meant as a slight tordoxana which is true yeah hey the crowd was laughing two minutes ago and now you're fucking having a delay let's go with this shit get the show going as a comedian we know crowd enthusiasm you need the momentum it has a thing once it goes it goes you don't get it back yeah it's once water pours out of the bottle try putting it back into it once you've poured it on the ground it's not working right so march 16th 1994 tanya pleads guilty to conspiracy to hinder prosecution as a class C felony offense. She and her lawyer negotiated a plea bargain, ensuring no further prosecution. And that's very important.

They said, this is it. No matter what comes out, this is it. The judge conducted a routine questioning, and Tanya said she knew what she was doing. She said she was knowingly and voluntarily entering into the plea agreement. Her plea admissions were knowing of the assault entering into the plea agreement uh her her plea admissions were knowing of the assault plot after the fact setting on a cover story with uh galooly and eckert and uh on january 10th and witnessing pay phone calls to smith affirming the story on january 10th and 11th because they had records of that and lying to the fbi with the story on January 18th. Yes. She is going to get, you ma'am, may fuck off.

Right. Three years of probation. Yeah. $100,000 fine. That's tough. That's steep. 500 hours community service. She agreed to reimburse the county $10,000 in legal expenses, undergo a psychiatric examination,

which is probably the most important part of this fucking thing at this point, and volunteered to give $50,000 to the Special Olympics charity, which I don't know what they have to do with any of this shit. She gave it to Nancy Kerrigan. Or the Oregon sentencing deadline or guidelines carried a maximum penalty of five years in prison. So she got fucking lucky. And then even more lucky, Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike, donates $25,000 to her legal fees. Really? Why? Why why why would he do that why would you do that i feel bad for this because he's an oregon guy she's a local girl that's all

i can imagine and i i fucked like i said you feel bad for uh they also said she made approximately six hundred thousand dollars from her inside edition deal for her inside edition interview. $600,000. That's a lot. That's a lot. And 94 money. That's two grand to get that? Yeah, that's what I mean. In the end, even with the $100,000 fine and the $50,000 in the Olympics, she's up. She's coming up.

Yeah. Her plea conditions also imposed her U.S. Figure Skating Association resignation, so she had to withdraw draw from the world championships couldn't do that wow six hundred thousand dollars yeah that's that's insane that's just the tip of the iceberg district attorney said that if uh harding had not agreed to the deal he would have proceeded with an indictment on all possible charges and uh so yeah he said that the plea agreement was satisfactory to harding because she was avoiding prison. And also the prosecutor said, we would have prevailed at trial. The skating people said, quote, we don't know if Tanya is innocent or guilty if she was

involved before during the national championship. We're going to stay out of this, is what they said. You don't know if she pled guilty. Yeah, that's what we got now. March 21st, 1994. This is two months later. All this has happened in two 1994. This is two months later. All this has happened in two months.

This last- Portland grand jury issues an indictment stating there's evidence that Harding participated in the attack plot. The indictment includes two months of investigation and witness testimonies from coaches, friends, everybody around, Eckert's people, all these people. But the problem is she's not charged in the indictment due to the terms of her plea agreement that says she can't be charged. So they just did this as a show. Okay. So May 16th, 1994.

This is two months later. Eckert pleads guilty to racketeering. Like we said, Smith and Stant plead guilty to conspiracy to commit second degree assault. All of them begin 18-month prison sentences. That is tough. That's tough. May 30th, 1994. This is fucking less than four months after this happened.

A docudrama, a fucking movie is already out about this. Four months. Like, it wasn't even, they didn't even have the whole story when they were writing the script and filming, probably. On NBC, it's called tanya and nancy the inside story and it debuts to lukewarm ratings yeah uh but at that point and in two weeks oj would happen so then then it's over it's done no one gave a fuck at that point anymore that that case this case disappeared of course uh june 94 that didn't disappear to the

figure skating people though uh claire ferguson the president didn't disappear to the figure skating people, though. Claire Ferguson, the president of the U.S. Figure Skating Association, voted to strip Tanya of her 1994 title, the one that she won because Nancy was hurt. So rather than move the silver up to the gold, it's just there's no winner in the second and third. So it's like the BCS. Yeah. On her list, it just says first and it's crossed out. So she didn't actually. Not there uh so she did that she's also banned for life from participating in us fsa events as either a skater or a coach uh yeah and it has uh i mean obviously

she can do professional skating shit that doesn't have to do with them but nothing that has to do with that sphere of all and uh at that point few people wanted to work with her because they were like, she was toxic. Jesus Christ. If you went near her, 50 reporters were going to follow you, too. Yeah. So she and this is when skating blew the fuck up in America. It got huge because of this. Started with the club.

Yeah. And she benefited none. Nancy Kerrigan really took the windfall for that. Good got everything she deserved she deserved it yeah no shit uh june 22nd 1994 this is when she starts to unravel she can't do figure skating anymore that just happened so she's in portland she appears as a wrestling manager what i swear to christ uh for triple a wrestling which is the mexico promotion it's a a big Mexican promotion, which was doing a show in Portland. She is the manager for the tag team Los Gringos Locos, which is Eddie Guerrero. You might know who he is.

Fantastic wrestler, multi-generation family. Dead also. Dead, yeah. And his partner was a guy named Art Barr, who you don't know who he is, but Art Barr is a wrestler also. He was a pretty decent wrestler and had to go down to wrestle in Mexico because he was convicted for rape of an underage girl in Oregon. What the shit? So he goes down to Mexico because they said, they don't give a fuck about your past down here.

So he did that. That's why he couldn't come back here. And people wanted to hire him in the States because he was a good wrestler, but they couldn't get past the fact that he had an underage he was the zoom off before zoom off and uh yeah he's on our list believe me this art bar so she managed him unbelievable six degrees of crime and sports i'm telling you they're all connected we can connect all our athletes in six degrees guerrero was a great wrestler he was fucking amazing yeah he was a good his whole family was it was they were wrestling for generations i mean they were he was like a nasty wrestler he was a bad dude right but both he'd do both but he was so fucking good i just remember his his like oh he had he was a

he was slick he had great moves his matches were fucking tight he was really good he was one of the best in the world honestly like in the in the wrestling video games he was always like yeah moving his hands with like a menacing face. You see like him and Benoit wrestle. That was a fucking match. Like those two would. Oh, it was awesome. That's awesome.

So she does that for some reason. It needs a couple bucks probably. 1994, she also does an interview with Rolanda. Remember Rolanda? I do. Rolanda Watts was the host. What the shit? Black lady.

Had her like talk show. She was fucking cool. That's really. I remember watching Rolanda. What happened to her? It was on for three years. And then she. Just went shit? Black lady had her talk show. She was fucking cool. That's really... I remember watching Rolanda. What happened to her? It was on for three years, and then she syndicated show for three... She was great. That was when everyone had a talk show in 94.

Rolanda was good. Rolanda was good. Yeah, she went away, and I think she does speaking and all that shit now. I'm sure she does. Now, during this interview, which I watched, Tanya says that her brother, who molested her, is the only person that she's ever hated. And yeah, also says that her mother abused her, but says she forgives her mother because her mother had a drinking problem and didn't know any better and was doing her best, basically.

And she appreciates the stuff her mom did for her also. She's bad trying to balance that and work it out. And look like a nice person. And look like a decent person. Yeah, exactly. Because at this point, she's trying to rehab her image here. It a it's a battered one she's trying to say i can forgive right wink wink so her image took more of a smash than than kerrigan's knee oh fuck yeah big time she was the worst person on earth she was she was known as a horrible person uh july 13th 94

jeff galuli is sentenced to two years in jail and fined a hundred thousand dollars for racketeering and he didn't make six hundred grand he didn't make six hundred grand he's not even managing fucking eddie guerrero no uh also this year harding is cast in a low budget action movie uh called breakaway uh it's not released till 96 here's the breakdown summary of it uh quote myra is a trusted courier for drug lord anton when she wants to retire anton plans to make sure her retirement is very permanent as in dead while on her last drop she learns of his plan and is able to abscond with a large amount of cash to make her getaway worthwhile her friends rick and gina assist her in her action-packed escape

tanya plays gina okay and it stars joe estevez who is martin sheen's brother who looks exactly like him and does all of martin sheen's voiceover work that's amazing he does his adr so that's that's who you get you get joe estevez which is 4.2 out of 10 on imdb so piece of shit i saw the screenshots not a good fucking movie looks like a pile of shit joe estevez that's brutal uh july 26th 1994 uh penthouse magazine announces that its september issue will feature different stills of harding and galooly having sex from the video tape uh the 35 minute sex tape would also be copied and marketed exclusively by Penthouse. Both Gallulli and Harding used the same agent

to negotiate equal payment for the Penthouse video sale. Look at fucking Flint, right? That's Flint's magazine, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, Hustler. Hustler's Flint. That's right. Penthouse is Guccione.

He's a scumbag. Okay. And not even funny scumbag like Flint, who's a wall breaker. Yeah, Larry's Flint was... He was funny as shit. Yeah, he was just a... Calling outag. Okay. Yeah. And not even funny scumbag like Flint, who's a wall breaker. He's funny as shit. Yeah. Yeah. He was just a-

Calling out, getting conservative fucking politicians. Riled up. I love his whole thing. I'll give anybody a hundred grand who shows evidence of a conservative politician cheating on their wife or anything morally bad because they're the moral people. Right. I thought that was great in the 90s. It was brilliant.

It was well needed then. And his magazine needed magazine needed it yeah and it helped him too but yeah they use the same agent to do this so they're they get equal pay for it uh october 7th 1994 the tanya harding fan club which at one point had 2 000 members during the olympic time before that uh begins to disband disband a disagreement disagreement between Harding and some of the officers of her fan club over disbursement of money in the fan club account had flared on several occasions, including once at the bank where the account is based.

Wow. So she's arguing with people about her fan club and fucking public. She's trying to take money out, and they're like, there isn't any. Jesus. In November 3rd, 94, a Portland artist named de forest uh unveils 60 silk screen prints of tanya harding and is charging five grand a pot

for them whoa no thanks uh christmas eve uh 1994 tanya skates as mrs santa claus at the clackamas town center uh during her first public skating performance since the olympics uh yeah she's just trying to make people at home she's like i need to be able to go to the grocery store so like i'll be mrs claus and then will everyone like me again uh in 1995 there's a promotional music event as they call it that was uh with her and her band dude she's just like a fucking football player i swear to god home, she's playing in bed. Just grasping. Grasping. Her band, the Golden Blades, they were booed off the stage at their only performance in Portland, Oregon in 1995.

So they tried to have a band, went out there, booed off the stage, said, well, we're never fucking doing that again. Bad idea. In a city that accepts everybody that's local. Not that one. Not that one. out there booed off the stage said well we're never fucking doing that again bad idea uh in a city that accepts everybody that's local not that one not that one this sucks we do have musical standards we're sorry uh this is the year the seinfeld episode the understudy comes out too which is about jerry going out with a broadway understudy who is an understudy to bet, bet Midler and bet George during a softball game runs over bet Midler and hurts her at home plate, not on purpose,

but whatever. So bet Midler's hurt. And Jerry's girlfriend, the understudy has to play the part. And it's a total Tanya Harding. It's just a Tanya Harding take. Everyone's yelling at her, following her around.

Jerry's like, I can't even perform anymore. People are yelling out Galooly at me so it's that thing and then at the end of the episode she goes on to perform she's like i don't care i'm gonna do great and she goes out there and she stops in the middle like she sings two lines and stops and starts crying and she's like my shoelaces untied i need to start over i need to start over it's a total tanya harding but it's funny as shit yeah she also gets married again that year to who this is when things are what is the crime and sports rule when things are going great and everything is perfect and your life is

spiraling out of control get married it'll help the kid one of the other you're gonna make your best decisions uh marries a man named michael smith who's apparently an IT guy. Okay. He does computer shit. February of 1996, out of a weird thing, Tanya tells police she was abducted at knife point in Oregon by a bushy-haired man. No one was ever caught. Nothing was ever done about it. She just reported that to the police. Yeah, they ran over my brother. Let you know.

Same guy, apparently. October 29th, 1996, she... This is wild. She's in apparently. October 29th, 96. She... This is wild. She's in a bar in Portland playing video poker. Yeah. And an 81-year-old woman named Alice Olsen passes out, and Tanya gives her mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and saves her life until the ambulance gets there. Gives her mouth-to-mouth, and she lives until the ambulance gets there and all that.

Can you imagine waking up and being like thank you so much are you are you tanya harding what happened how long was i asleep what's going on here did we both die what's gonna what's happening i being saved by tanya harding weird so weird wish to die i don't know it's that would be the weirdest thing to look up and have be like that's tanya harding right over me right now i don't think so uh she also divorces michael smith that year uh obviously uh 97 uh there is a she's at a reno renegades hockey game and apparently she's supposed to do a two-minute performance before a reno renegades hockey game and she is she's subjected to booing cat calls and people threw batons at her what until she left the ice they brought batons to throw they knew she was going to be there and they brought batons so they were the hockey fans are rugged so uh yeah at a place where hitting people is legal yeah so she had to skate off the

ice seems like she'd fit right in jesus christ october 1997 tanya's pickup truck is stolen from the vancouver mall parking lot her and this fucking pickup truck man god jesus jesus it gets worse with the pickup truck wasn't just impounded that's yeah that's probably it it was just fucking repossessed uh febru 98, Fox airs the first ever face-to-face interview between Tanya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan. And it was pretty boring. Really? Yeah, it was not really that eventful. That's a bummer. I'm just, you know, sorry about everything that happened

and that's, you know, things are... Where's Kerrigan with her fucking humor? That's what I mean. Kerrigan should have been like, what bitch? Fuck you! Threw her chair over. I'll give a fuck if this is not Jerry Springerer i'm turning this shit into jerry springer we're throwing down right now sit back bryant gumbel we got things to do calm down connie chung i gotta talk to this fucking lady right here yeah you yeah listen

diane sawyer i don't need your input on this jesus christ uh february of 99 tanya says that the way has been cleared for her to return to skating and she's all good and she's going to return to skating and the united states figure skating association says nothing has changed she's not cleared for shit still banned she's banned as fuck still never changed i don't know where the hell that came from made that shit up now uh jesus christ october 18th 1999 uh she plans to make her make her skating debut professionally, doing one of those ice capade type shit, in the ESPN

Professional Skating Championships in Huntington, West Virginia, which she should be right at home there. That's perfect. She places second, and she thinks, in her mind, that a strong showing like this is going to lead to offers from ice shows like the Ice Capades

and other TV skating specials and nobody gives her shit. She's offered nothing. Whatsoever. Ouch. God damn it. Big swing and a miss. Big cut and a miss here.

February 24th, 2000, she is teaching skating at the mall in Portland. Because those who can't teach, James. Those who can't teach. And she is teaching at a mall in Portland. And those who really can't teach at the mall in Portland. Because those who can't teach, James. Those who can't teach. And she is teaching at a mall in Portland. And those who really can't teach at the mall. Because that's going to be the worst one, whatever. She is living with a man named Darren Silver,

who sounds like he sells young Asian women on the dark web or something. I'm Darren Silver. What do you need? Hared middle-aged white man. Yeah, that's it. Darren Silver, haired middle-aged white man. Yeah, that's Darren Silver. Haird middle-aged white man.

They live in Camas, Washington. They've been living together for about three years at this point. So right after she separated from Smith, probably the day of. Right. She moves in with this guy. Well, there's a Tuesday night and she's booked for investigation of fourth degree domestic assault after an altercation that left Darren Silver's face bruised and bloodied. Now, let's talk about the most white trash domestic violence incident in the history of crime and sports.

And that's fucking saying something. This is deep. There's a lot of domestic violence. There's been dudes that shove women's faces into drywall. Oh, it's all trashy. This is the most specific, though, to white trash. It's amazing. Okay.

Witnesses said that Tanya attacked Silver as they returned from a trip to Oregon to play video poker. So they went to play video poker. She loves the video poker. She's a fan of it. They come back. I guess Darren told the police that they argued during the trip and that as soon as they got home, Harding immediately attacked him.

He says, quote, she was hooking me like Mike Tyson. Wow. He said he finally grabbed her arms after about a half a dozen punches. Both were intoxicated. Apparently, she repeatedly punched his face and groin, repeatedly punched his face and groin, and then beat him with a hubcap, Jimmy. Thank you. Good night, everybody. That's the most white trash crime in sports

today. She beat a man. We've never had hubcap violence. She rained blows upon him. And then said, this hurts. Did she take it off the car? Clack, clack, clack. They probably have him laying around the front yard. Let's be realistic.

There's hubcaps everywhere. Just laying around. This one fell off. Just leave it there. Fuck it. Yeah, she beat him with a fucking hubcap to the point of arrest. That's white trash, man. Yeah, she ends up being released an hour later and ordered to appear in court, obviously.

Eventually, she's sentenced to three days in jail and 10 hours of community service for this whole thing. Those are heavy, too, the old ones. Like, the new ones are plastic and they're garbage. No, this was probably from a... From like a 62 Cadillac or something. A pickup truck. It was probably from a 81 Ford F-150.

That heavy center truck. Yeah, that kiss. Oh, Jesus. Ting, ting, beating him with it. Bloodied him up. January 2002, she is living in a home in Washington State, and she is evicted for nonpayment of rent. Ouch.

She owes her landlord $4,530 in rent, late fees, and other costs. She'd been living there since August of 2000, but apparently between November 2001 and January 2002, she paid nothing. Wow. And is called out for it and kicked the fuck out of her joint months right three months rent yeah 1500 a month probably something like that well with fees too late fees probably a grand a month grand a month probably yeah not bad that's good for her uh 2002 she appears on tv she appears on not not in an interview or anything like that she

appears on the weakest link the game Link, the game show. What? The game show, The Weakest Link. They tested her brain? They tested her brain. It was the 15 Minutes of Fame edition along with Kato Kaelin. Oh, no. Jesus Christ. That's where she's fallen.

If you're sitting next to Kato, you don't do it. No. Who else is doing it? K no how's that what the fuck are you doing unbelievable jesus fucking christ almighty she gets it gets worse somehow uh also later that year she boxed against paula jones i remember that bill clinton sexual harassment accuser paula jones with the weird nose that she beat her though yeah she beat up paula jones but paula jones is the office chick from the beauty queen fucking arkansas she's not a professional athlete tanya harding better kick the shit out of some chick from an office. April 20th, 2002. She's driving her 1977 Dodge pickup.

That's what she's driving. The same truck. In 2002. A 77 Dodge pickup. In the early morning of April 20th, when it veers off the road and crashes into a ditch. I'm not driving it anymore. Not anymore. She has a 23-year-old male passenger there, too, with her.

Not bad. How about that? How about that? Early morning. Good for her. Look at you at 32. anymore not anymore uh her she has a 23 year old male passenger there too with her not bad how about that about that early morning good for her uh she yeah look at you at 32 getting some road head that's right not bad fucking she's driving yeah yeah she'd have to be uh nobody was hurt she claimed the power steering on the truck went out just went out like that uh she said but the cop also said well let's let's go ahead and give you a field sobriety test and see how your power steering is doing, sweetheart. And she fails it. Of course. Her blood alcohol level is measured at.16, which is double the legal limit.

You bet. So not okay. That's bad, too, because she's on probation from the assault on her boyfriend still. Oh, no. Yeah, two years of probation. Uh, she's the problem is, uh,

is, uh, she has less than a month to go on her two year probation. So she's timing right fucking there. Yeah. This shows you, I can't, you can't just wait.

Uh, condition of which of her two year probation was that she would consume no alcohol, uh, at all. Uh, after the DUR, I charged, she said she's already been served the probation violation thing.

So the judge, he's got a lot of leeway here. If he finds sufficient evidence that she drank, he could sentence her to more than five and a half months in jail just on the probation violation. The judge had suspended 167 days of her 180-day term back in 2000. She says that she has a lot of future plans and she's not worried about this. She said she's going to teach skating, quote, back east. I don't know. She's from Oregon.

There's no back anywhere for you. That's where you're from. It's just out east. It's just out east. Just east. She said also she's got, quote, a lot of other stuff I'm sure you'll hear about. And a lot of other stuff. I got you'll hear about and a lot of other stuff i got stuff i got stuff going on uh yeah her lawyer said she hasn't driven uh or drunk alcohol since the dui uh he says quote i think she's doing well considering the circumstances which is fucking interesting uh now uh december 2002 she's back in court, but not on the receiving end of it, on the giving end of it, because she is suing a hot sauce company.

For what? For making Tanya hot sauce. Suing a company that is the creator of Tanya hot sauce. This apparently, and I saw the label, you can look it up, it's shown, it has a caricature of Tanya smoking in front of a broken-down trailer, holding a pair of ice skates in one hand and a hubcap in the other. And the quote on it says, quote, not for the weak-kneed to guaranteed to assault your taste buds and burn the hair off your galoo that's all that it needed it's a lead pipe since you'll love it this is fantastic these people are great i'm sorry that's fucking hilarious brilliant uh so yeah she's pissed off about it uh j uh christ it's uh made in oregon stores

who was the distributor of this tanya hot sauce in october they sent a letter claiming that it defames miss harding and unfairly uh defamed her and quote unfairly reminded her of upsetting misunderstood events okay don't don't buy it don't fucking buy it get the fuck away from it threatens a lawsuit uh for misappropriating her name and image uh they said her lawyer said tanya has been punished more than enough for what she did or didn't do wow this is a mess she pled guilty she did it oh my god she says uh she wants to she doesn't want to take it off the shelf though she says she wants to know how many bottles have been sold and to be paid a reasonable share of the royalties. She wants royalties for this shit.

Yeah. The this is fucking funny, man. This is just a mess. The hot sauce is creator's name is John Farmer. He's an airline employee who says he's he says, quote, I have an attorney who basically thinks the whole thing is laughable. It's like editorial cartoons we see every day throughout the country right if i have to give a percentage of the profits to her i demand she gives it to mothers against drunk driving this fucking guy's great i love john farmer what airline you work for brother because i'm gonna fucking go straight

there wow that's awesome that is amazing so uh december 2002 a car is pulled over that she is in she is not the driver but she's arrested for a probation violation anyway because she has two unopened cans of beer on her person she's hanging out with beer you can't hold it though she's not allowed to have alcohol as a term of her probation but she didn't drink it so it's january 15th what happened with the with the lawsuit though did she win or lose that it ended up being fucking i think it was it didn't matter anymore because of the yeah it got thrown out of satire satire is exactly what it was uh so january 15th 2003 uh judge rules that uh she did not violate her probation by having two unopened cans of beer in the car

because that could have been for somebody else. There could have been a million explanations for it and it wasn't in her system, so it didn't matter. But still, another court case. She's out on the street. She's got to be a fucking mess. She doesn't even have a home.

She's been evicted a month before this. God knows what she's fucking doing. She's suing John Farmer. God doing. She's suing John Farmer. God knows. She's suing John Farmer for hot sauce. It's crazy. One night she's sitting home, and it's funny because she's got that roommate. She's telling him to give a statement.

She's got guys living with her, a young guy from the truck. And there's a knock at the door, and she's like, who the fuck is that? Go get it. And they said they won't talk to me. You have to come out here. You have to come out here. You have to come out here. She's like, fine. She comes out here.

And she's got to be expecting anything at this point. But what she didn't expect was my grandma. And it was my grandma. And she said. Ma, how is it you've come to arrive here? Ma, why are you here? Why do you do this? Ma, you're such a pretty girl.

You're a nice girl. You come up. So what? Your mother hit you a little. My mother, you should see back in Italy. They beat me with the pipes. Oh, you know about that, too. But you beat people, too, but not for no reason like me.

But you're a bad person. I want to know, too. Ma, how many husbands are you going to have? That's what I... You're a pretty person i want to know too how many husband you're gonna have but that's what are you pretty girl you not have no kids already you're getting older now it's you you're 33 years old you you put on i don't know why why you do this too this is no good i'm very sad her fat she's a whore she's a whore no you put on. I'm sorry. My grandmother thinks everyone's a put on. Grandma, calm down. My, yeah, but what?

You know, she has the one boy and the other boy. I don't know what she's going to do. I don't judge, but I just think maybe your life's not going how you want, and I'm very sad for you, and it's no good. I'm sorry. I have to go now. Poof. And in a puff of marinara sauce and homemade things she's gone and tanya feels worse about

herself than she ever felt from her mother and uh that's welcome to grandma enjoy grandma calls every female uh one we have a putan because she thinks every it could be a woman could be married for 30 years and go to church every sunday and she'd be like mother putan this one something about her would be what do you want from people grandma look at her shoes look at her mother look at the shoes so you think you can't get any weirder yeah well let's get weirder february 22nd once again six degrees of crime and sports here uh the pyramid in memphis she makes her official women's professional boxing debut on the same card as the Mike Tyson-Clifford Etienne fight. I remember this

too. Full circle, bitches. Full circle. Remember we were talking about Etienne? I was like, don't worry. We'll get to Tanya Harding. This is what the fuck I was talking about here. She fights Samantha Browning, who is a Mississippi house cleaner who had only been in bar fights previously, is what she said.

Wow. This is what's on an undercard of a professional fight here. That's pretty awesome, though. Apparently so. That's a fight I want to watch. I think I have... Remember it. I think I've seen it. Didn't she win this, too?

No, she loses a four-round split decision against Samantha Browning here. She's 0-1. Does she have braids in this? I think so, yeah. I think so. Like ponytail braids. Yeah, they can't have your hair sticking in your face and shit while you're trying to box.

So that's February 23rd. March 15th, she's boxing again at the Grand Casino in Gulfport, Mississippi versus Shannon Birmingham. She wins the unanimous decision this time in four rounds. So that's one and one. March 28th, two weeks later, not even. This is now her career? This is now her career. Wow.

She's at the Creek Nation Gaming Center in Tulsa. This is what I mean. This keeps coming. She fights Alejandra Lopez and wins a unanimous decision in four. She's two and one. June 13, 2003, at the Chinook Wins Casino in Lincoln City, Oregon. She fights Emily Gosa and

wins a unanimous decision in four. Look at this! She's three and one. August 2, 2003. This is a lot of fights in a few months. She fights. She's at the Silver City Cabaret in Dallas fighting Melissa Giannis, and she loses by TKO in a minute and 13 seconds. Oh, no.

She gets the shit knocked out of her by this girl who knows what the fuck she's doing. Brings her to three and two. She also does a boxing match on The Man Show. Do you remember this? Really? Post-Carola Kimmel when it was Rogan and Stanhope. Oh, my God.

She boxed Doug Stanhope. Really? She beat the shit out of Doug Stanhope. And Stanhope later on during the podcast, he said that the fight was fixed because Tanya refused to fight a man. Oh, that makes sense. I think she could take him if I'm being honest with you. Doug's not a big dude.

He's not a big dude and he's fucked up half the time and she's an angry chick. She could fuck him sense. I think she could take him, if I'm being honest with you. Doug's not a big dude. He's not a big dude, and he's fucked up half the time, and she's an angry chick. She could fuck him up, I think. That is kind of interesting. But Doug, he's known as being fucking straight up honest. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, I believe him. And if it was fixed, yeah.

I believe him, 100%. I'm just shocked. He has no shame. Right. If she beat him up, he'd be like, she kicked my ass. Tough chick. I don't think that. But I think she could take him anyway.

I think that, yeah, she should have just fought a man yeah she didn't want to apparently uh so uh march 23rd 2004 there was a boxing match planned against tracy carlton in oakland but it is canceled due to a death threat against tanya oh there so they cancel it must have been a serious or credible one here maybe it was doug's girlfriend oh fucking bingo she's pissed yeah june 24 2004 after not boxing for a year she fights in edmonton alberta versus amy johnson and apparently she gets repeated uh repeatedly repeatedly repeatedly and reportedly uh booed as she enters the ring and when she was beaten in the third round the frans went batshit crazy johnson yeah they hated tanya so she's three and three and she calls it a career in boxing uh

she says it's something uh to do with having asthma and she can't do it anymore so uh it's funny she never had asthma while she was skating or when she was fighting four rounds as she's getting the shit knocked out of all of a sudden she's a little wheezy. Got some wheezing going on. At this point, she needs work and after boxing here, she works as a welder, a painter, like a house painter, not like a painter, like she's not an artist.

She's doing union work? She works at a metal fabrication company and at one point is a hardware sales clerk at Sears. Unbelievable. so if you're one of the 12 people that went in with sears during that five-year period or something uh you may have bought some you might have bought a craftsman from uh tanya harding let me show you these tools wait a second back up get away from anything that's long and metal you're yeah i don't want to see

the ratchet thing that's long and metal so So October 25th, 26, 2005. She has a weird fucking day, man. She calls 911 and says she was attacked by two masked men who came to her home and assaulted her before she could escape. This is weird as fuck. That happens. And then later on, this is so fucking weird. Okay. uh that that happens and then later on this is so fucking weird uh okay later on that day uh she has she has a roommate christopher nolan is his name not the director uh yeah that's who it is yeah uh is there she he says they're roommates she says it's her boyfriend so that's right there

i wouldn't fuck her not me no not me at all you know she's this bitch is crazy i don't know uh she was uh uh apparently there was an emergency call it's called to arrest the man he was charged with assault and pleaded not guilty uh he told uh he told deputies that tanya threw him down and bit his finger when he said that she had too much to drink which sounds like her i'll be honest with That kind of sounds like her. He was ordered to stay away from Harding and to avoid alcohol. He's like, she bit, what the fuck?

But there was... How do you tell her those instructions? There was more than that, though. She had a small cut over her eye and an abrasion on her cheek. They fought. They got drunk and fought and they both need to go to fucking jail.

Sorry, assholes. So that was one of those. 2006, there is a rock opera called Tanya and Nancy the Rock Opera. What? Yes. It is – Jesus Christ. I kind of want to see that. It's kind of interesting.

Produced by Tufts University, which is like a really fancy school. Described as a dark comedy, which is awesome. Premiered in Portland inland in 2008 it was also produced in la new york and chicago and uh she stayed the the director said they thought that the the elements of the scandal reflected life in america and uh she hopes that the show would convey public sympathy towards carrigan galuli and tanya harding you know that is a kind of a fucking interesting thought oh this is america man it's it's the white trash rising up to try to beat the the but to never actually be able to do it because it doesn't

work it keeps never actually i don't know it's an 80s movie where the good guy never wins michael j fox loses every fucking time our own behavior keeps us back perpetuating a cycle in real life michael j fox doesn't turn into the wolf he loses the basketball game and he works his father's hardware shop for the rest of his fucking life that's real life until his 40s where he starts shaking uncontrollably and then yeah and then that's real life unfortunately march 2007 uh uh this is a fucked up day uh han tanya calls 9-1-1 at 4 50 a.m for the first time uh she uh uh This is crazy. From Yakult Towing, which is in northern Clark County. She works there?

I don't know if she works there or something happened. According to the record, she reported that four men and a woman tried to break into her vehicle and stashed weapons on her property, which is very strange. which is very strange. Tanya tells the deputies here that these people followed her and a tow truck driver to the tow yard also and they were like outside. Tanya tells a deputy here that was sent there that she was on new medication

and was having an adverse reaction to it once they get there. The deputy called her story implausible and said that she was agitated and glancing everywhere. He also said she was, quote, frustrated that others can't see the people she sees, which when you're hallucinating. Yeah. Wow. Fuck. So at 9 a.m., a woman, Jesus Christ, a woman named that is my favorite statement of this entire episode frustrated

she can't see the people that she sees that others can't see the people she sees that is pretty hot solid shit that's solid man jesus christ at uh at 9 a.m now a few hours go by uh linda wilmot who's a friend of hers uh calls 9-1-1 uh to say a friend of hers who is tanya uh was at her home quote tweaking out seeing animals yeah so tripping this bitch is tripping come get her uh yeah she said she's not violent but she's tweaking she's seeing animals losing her mind yeah she said a deputy took uh tanya home and checked her property but found nothing amiss and there was no people trying to break in uh the deputy advised tanya to see a doctor because this is the second official that's told her that now the friend linda said that she

wouldn't offer any details about what about what harding said or did inside her home because it's probably nuts uh she did uh but another woman linda Linda Lewis, who is Harding's friend and manager, released a statement saying that Harding, quote, had changed her over-the-counter allergy medication. Her Claritin did this shit? And it made her hallucinate. Oh, boy. Now, Linda Wilmon, her friend, says she doesn't want this to be misinterpreted as something more than a bad interaction between her and some asthma medication. She said, I just want people to know the truth. was not on illegal drugs and that's it so uh i mean imagine being her friend no it's like fucking her friend her everything imagine all these people being in her life just

being and i even her i even this is such a mess i even actually feel for fucking tanya harding a little bit because nobody needs to come up that way. And she's had a rough life and she, but she, she was right there. She's overcoming all of this. It's, it's fucked up, man. I do. I feel bad for her, but not nearly, not nearly as bad as I feel for Tanya Harding, who the name of her business is just amazing.

She's the founder of a business called staging with a touch of class, which is definitely not this time in harding uh which she does real estate she stages homes and that sort of shit in the columbus area so please use her for whatever because it's not her fault tanya harding a supply chain he's supply chain management at intel in portland oh boy oh shit that poor bastard she's like fuck me we're right next to each other in a phone book for christ's sake this is rough tanya harding a uh advertising consultant at northern virginia media services in washington dc uh tanya harding uh manufacturing controller at shipmatic in toledo ohio and finally this is great tanyaing, who a woman who I found in 2014 was arrested for shining a laser light into an unmarked police car in Volusa County. What an asshole.

And her husband was also nabbed for driving with a suspended license. This is the 12th time it's been suspended for various reasons, according to the report. And this woman's blonde and trashy. It's fucking amazing. A couple of hillbillies named harding it's awesome that's amazing 2008 you couldn't find anybody that worked the name tanya harding that worked at like a pipe works i wish i should do you don't think i looked for that you're kidding me any sort of weapons munitions i was looking for anything i i really was i thought the

uh the portland lady was good enough that was was bad enough. And touch of class, which is pretty funny. Also, 2008, Tanya becomes a commentator for True TV's The Smoking Gun Presents World's Dumbest. I've seen that. I remember I've seen her on that. They've got all these comics in there, and then she pops up. And giggles twice. And it's the most boring, drip part of the show. Nothing.

Yeah. Nothing to say. Also, 2008, the book, the Tanya tapes comes out about her. And it's a biography. It's it's authorized. It is based on recorded interviews with her. And it's a whole book of recorded shit with her. So it's all her shit.

I'm riveted. Fucking bought it. And I. Well, we own it. So great. You can read it. I can't wait. I have it on Kindle. I'll ship it it over to you it's pretty fucking pretty solid stuff it's her life story

here yeah i have to buy all these fucking books that's what you guys don't understand i'm saying oh i give you a line from a book i had to buy that book to fucking read that shit for that line sucks man tell me what it says in this shit well there's a lot about her life and her childhood and a lot of excuses, and one thing that comes out that's new information, she tells an interviewer that during the first few days of the Kerrigan investigation, Galooly and his

quote, goons, took her to the mountains to frighten her into silence. He said that Galooly and his two friends raped her at gunpoint, and Galooly countered the story claiming it's completely false. He has no idea what she's fucking talking about. Wow.

Blah, blah, blah. Why doesn't he sue her for that shit? I fucking would. That's what I'm saying. You can't say that shit about me. You didn't do it. He changed his name, by the way, to Stone when he got out of jail. Stone Galooly?

Stone Galooly. You got it. Absolutely. Stone Galooly. He's got a Stone Galoo so that's rough that's horrible why would he do that yeah jeff stone he's like oh every galuli is oh it's the last name of stone yeah obviously yeah jeff stone uh no not obviously well i thought you'd said he changed his first name to stone why would you leave galuli the jeff is the problem part. This Galooly is fine.

That's fine. It sounds like a pussy. And it's the most well-known name of a douchebag in the entire country. But I'll keep that. Jeff, not so sure about it. I'm going with Stone. Not positive. Going with Stone. So he's now Jeff Stone.

She says, quote, it was like two days later when things started breaking in the news and the media or police or whatever were involved or whatever. She says whatever a lot. Somebody said Jeff was involved and I was involved and somebody else and I was like, well, I'm not even involved. This is what I mean. I don't even know what's going on here. I started thinking that Jeff was involved in trying to tell me what to say and not to say and that this was what was going on.

And I was like, I don't want to be involved in this. I'm'm not going to say that and then i went to my attorneys after we talked i mean at first there were two attorneys mine and jeff's but then they separated us at one point when they asked me a question and i answered them jeff ended up punching me under the table and then when we left he hit me when we were in the car and told me that i was a stupid bitch and i shouldn't open my mouth and all this stuff wow so then I had to go in and talk to the FBI or whoever was in charge of this thing. So I started telling them basically what I'd known. And they asked me if I knew what hindering the prosecution was. And I said, no, I have no idea.

And they asked my attorney, do you want to tell her or should we? And my attorney told me, Tanya, you've got to be totally straight with these people. Hindering prosecution is not telling them what you know or what you don't want to tell them everything. Now, he said she says, and I'm like, I can't tell the whole truth because if I do, I'm going to end up getting the shit kicked out of me bad or something worse. I said so. I said I want protection. If I'm going to go in there and tell these people what I've heard that I want to be protected. And he was like, well, we will see what we can do,

but you need to go back in and you need to tell them what they know. Apparently, after a bunch of meetings, she claims that Galooly was abusive and two other men brought her to a secluded mountain spot to frighten her into silence. She said, quote, this is going to shock you really bad. When I got back from the competition before the Olympics, we ended up seeing the lawyers right before I went to see the FBI people to tell them the truth of what I know about the attack on Kerrigan, because obviously that's all that was important to me was the truth. She said at that point, him, meaning Jeff and two other guys don't know who they were because I couldn't see who they were. They were in a different car, decided to drive me up into the mountains.

They put a gun to my head and take themselves upon me. And they said all three of them. And she said, yeah, he stood there and watched the other two men do it then he decided to do it too they said if i didn't cooperate and say exactly what jeff wanted me to say that they were going to take me out i had a gun in the back of my head and i was uh raped in the back of a truck back of a truck of a car and they told me this is what you are going to say this is what you are going to do and uh yeah, that's what she says. Jesus.

So that's a brutal story. If that's true, that's horrific. If that's true, that's horrific. And I don't think the statute of limitations would probably be up on a violent rape like that. I would hope not. Anyway, I would hope there would be none on something like that. And yeah, I don't know. Either he should be arrested or she should be sued.

Someone's got to work this shit out there should be some uh some consequences for somebody uh now august 12 2009 this is gonna this is the most what what would surprise you if i said that she did what would surprise you i don't if i said she won election to congress would you be surprised i'd be blown away or would you be like maybe no well let's see here august 12 2009 she sets a new land speed record what for vintage gas coupe cars what the fuck is that did you expect me to say she said a land speed record is that the last thing you expected me to say? What kind of land speed record is it, though? For a vintage gas coupe. She went 97.177 miles an hour while driving a 1931 Ford Model A named Lickety Split on the Bonneville Salt Flats.

Yeah. Her setting of that land speed record was featured on an episode of True TV Presents World's Dumbest Focused on Record Breakers. World's Dumbest. World's Dumbest. And her. Juneune 23rd 2010 she marries another guy uh man named joseph price that does ac installation she is great with just the uh she'll meet somebody random ass like find them just grab bag names oh it doesn't matter joseph price nobody just yeah shane stant fucking derrick smith yeah there's just all these random is the only one but if he's jeff stone then it's fine she meets this guy at a place called the

timbers which is some restaurant up there bar it's video poker i'm assuming she told inside edition that she was the one who proposed he said she says quote it was at his birthday party i got down in one knee and asked him to marry me uh when when asked what they asked joseph price what he wanted people to know about tanya he said quote she's kind she's loving she's a little rough around the edges she's a redneck but she's my redneck yeah so there you go. She takes his name, Price, not Joseph. Right. She's now Joseph Harding. Have a good night, everyone. I had to make sure.

She's now, yes, so she's Tanya Price now. I love that she says she got down on one knee. Yeah. Got down on my good knee. Got down on the same knee. Remember she says her knee's sore today. You're like, really? Is it? Is it?

February 19th, 2011, she gives birth to a son. Oh. Look at that. First child. What year? 2011. Wow. She is 41.

Gives birth to a baby boy named Gordon. Her friend says, quote, she always wanted a baby. She was always told she could never have a child. And guess what? It really is a miracle. She really is very happy. Her mom just told her she wasn't allowed to have a baby. She didn't say that she couldn't. 2014, Nancy Kerrigan finally addresses this whole thing. She talks to Bob Costas and says, quote, whatever apology Tanya has given, I accept it. It's time for all of us.

I've wished Tanya well. She has her own family. I have my family. It's time that we make make our focus that we make that our focus and move on with our lives she's an adult about the whole thing in 2017 tanya stated that she was working as a painter and a deck builder in washington state uh she is photographed and this is going to be the photograph we're going to use so you'll see this uh on the social media photographs sitting outside her washington home smoking a cigarette and drinking coffee uh she is in a mickey mouse pajama pants and slip-on shoes and a like a you know a plaid fleece coat smoking a cigarette with coffee on her white trash porch with all sorts of shit around there's a sign that says he's in fucking yeah that's there's a there's a no trespassing sign there's a scrap metal sign that features a sasquatch that says gone squatching in her front fucking yard in her front yard

and gone squatching gone squatching and then they asked her why she moved to washington out of oregon i guess her plans to move back east have been thwarted she said jesus christ this is how you know all of her statements have been written by other people before this quote i moved from oregon to washington because oregon was buttheads oregon was buttheads oregon was buttheads she took a big drag and put it out in her coffee and then took a sip you bet she did january 7th 2017 by the way i tanya came out which is this mockumentary type of deal which I explained a little bit before it's not really

it's not a it's not meant to be an informational biography it's meant to be more of just kind of a just kind of a remember when this shit happened

yeah that's kind of what it is it's like I love the 90s movie style basically here January 7th 2018 Tanya appears

at the golden globes for itania oh because of that because it was nominated for awards they made a funny movie out of it uh january 12th surprise tanya your life is a fucking joke yeah well think about this she's been in obscurity and doing shit and her husband's doing hvac work or whatever and they're doing all this shit this movie comes out about her there's interest in her she's at HVAC work or whatever and they're doing all this shit. This movie comes out about her. There's interest in her. She's at the Golden Globes on the 7th, so she thinks she's hot shit. January 12th, five fucking days go by.

She can't let the shit ride for a week even without being a jerk about it. She wants reporters to sign a document before interviewing her, stating they won't ask about anything about the Nancy Kerrigan situation. Her agent publicist, Michael Rosenberg, quit over this. He posted on his Facebook page he'd no longer work for her because she was adamant that

reporters sign an affidavit stating they won't ask her anything, quote, about the past or they'll be fined $25,000. What the fuck else are they going to talk to you about? The only thing that makes you fascinating is that you hired somebody to smash somebody's leg. That's it. That's what it is. Or if you were a great Olympian, then you would have been interesting because you came from nothing to do that, which would have been interesting also.

She said, quote, the lawyer said, quote, our publicist said, quote, obviously it doesn't work that way and therefore I've chosen to terminate our business relationship. Yes. very good. February 26, 2018, she's on the Ellen DeGeneres show there. She says that she's still active in skating and practices three times a week, and during the show she performs several jumps and spins. And April of 2018, she announced she would be competing on dancing with the fucking stars yes which she did other people include uh jamie anderson who's an olympic snowboarder johnny damon the old outfielder for everybody kareem abdul-jabbar which is the he's the grumpiest

asshole yeah i've never heard of anyone that likes him people who played with him people who know him press he's a fucking asshole i don't know why he would want to be on that i feel bad for his Heard of anyone that likes him. People who played with him. People who know him. Press. He's a fucking asshole. I don't know why he would want to be on that. I feel bad for his partner, Lindsay Arnold. She had to put up with his fucking attitude. Let's see. Jenny Finch.

I remember the baseball softball player. Chris Madser. That's why he's an Olympic loser. He's one of those sports. It doesn't matter if you medal. I thought they were stars. Don't care. Exactly.

Mire Nagasu, a figure skater, Olympic figure skater. Tanya Harding, Josh Norman, an NFL quarterback. And Adam Rippon, who's an Olympic figure skater. They really fell down on this Dancing with the Stars bit. Yeah, and a bunch of them. They stopped getting people that anybody gave a fuck about. Yeah. Her and her partner, Sasha Farber, went to the finals of the competition. Yeah, the finals were two figure skaters and a fucking NFL cornerback.

Who has the best feet? Cornerbacks and figure skaters. I wonder why they'd be great dancers. Running backs win all the time. She danced through a hole. I wonder why. Fucking insane. Adam Rippon and Jenna Johnson were the winners there.

But she finished third. That's the last we've seen of her. She's good at finishing third. She's good at it always, babe. Can't get enough of Tanya Harding? Who can? Go watch I, Tanya, I guess, and see that bullshit. But it's pretty funny.

I will say that. You can go on eBay and get an autographed ice skate, a Tanya Harding ice skate autographed for $109.99. What would it cost to get her the... What if I bought a telescopic baton? Do you think she'd sign that? I was just going to say, you could probably... Well, one second here. Some jumper cables?

They also have Tanya Harding Leaf Masterpiece Cut Signature Auto Signed Autograph. I don't know what the fuck that means, but there's an autograph. Tanya Harding, a little smiley face here and uh that is uh i think 14 or some shit no 8888 whoa they're out of their fucking mind yeah there's also the tanya tapes um i feel like none of this is worth it because i feel like for a fucking bus ticket and a night at the red roof inn you could get her to come to your bar mitzvah for $109.99 at this point in fucking time. Yeah. So I don't see what you're doing.

Just hire her for whatever. Hire her to clean out your gutters or build your deck or whatever the fuck she's doing and then get an autograph while she's there. What if we get her address and send her a Ford hubcap and see if she'll sign that shit for us?

Hey, if you guys, anybody out there, can get us a Tanya Harding autographed fucking hubcap, you will be forever in our debt. We will give you shout-outs till the end of time. You get a shout-out every week this year, no matter what you do. If you get us a real Tanya Harding autographed hubcap, that's what you get. Every week, we dedicate the show to you. That's Tanya Harding.

Wow. What a fucking disaster. We've been waiting a long time to do that one. I'm glad we waited because we needed been waiting a long time to do that one i'm glad we waited because we needed the the time and the space to do it so uh yeah that's tanya harding holy fucking balls jimmy's kind of gal i can't believe she's she's living that life like and you feel an eventful i feel bad for i don't want her i want things to not be shitty for her because she had a tough childhood what is tough i mean she has to think about it every day too what if she didn't make that decision no what if that one fucking decision

what if she wouldn't have done that went in won that championship anyway went to the olympics and won a silver right she'd be a fucking hero to this forever she would have been on disney commercials she would have been all that shit instead she's being made fun of by snl not hosting it right so it's a lot different and being made fun of by SNL, not hosting it. So it's a lot different. And being made fun of on fucking Dancing with the Stars. That's a ridicule show. Yeah, that's all. Unless you're an athlete, it's a ridicule show.

For an athlete, it's like, hey, I still got moves for an old guy, huh? Hey, look at that. I'm Jerry Rice. Remember me? Remember me? Yeah, that's a different thing. Like, hey, I'm still around. Look at me.

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