Crime in Sports - #145 - More Than Zero Tolerance - The Badness of Scott Hall AKA "Razor Ramon"

Episode Date: January 15, 2019

This week, we try to hold down a very crazy story down for a three count! A man who had all the ability that you could have, and used that ability to make it to the very top of the wrestling game. Big money, fame, and tons of alcohol, drugs, and pills to support that lifestyle. Not to mention violence, car wrecks, drunken insanity, and even a homicide! This is a winding road, with nothing but dark exits! Pretend to be Cuban on television, estrange yourself from your children, and drink yourself out of relationships & high paying jobs with Scott Hall AKA Razor Ramon!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We're diving into wrestling again tonight, which are always a fun episode. The wrestling episode. Have we had a bad wrestling episode? No. Chris Adams, Buck Zumhoff, Jimmy Snuka, Sonny, Jake the Snake. They're all crazy. episode have we had a bad wrestling episode no chris adams buck zoom hoff jimmy snooka sunny jake the snake not just they're all crazy not just the stories but then actually i have a new appreciation for it oh it's amazing people that are involved with it it's incredible it's really amazing and the people that do it and and are like in the in the scenes of them

fucking amazing people it's stand-up comedy with violence that's the way i've said it in every episode i always find how many parallels where we're like see how it's just like stand-up it is just like so you're going you're going around it's a city to city doing the same fucking thing you did last night pretending it's brand fucking new it's the same exact thing all of the the weirdness is the behind this everything is very similar except with brain damage yeah is the only difference athletic brain damage mixed with comedy except and you know a lot of the guys are very funny too oh they're funny they've got such great sense of humor especially the older guys you had to have a personality because they just hand you a microphone

and be like uh you guys say some shit you got three minutes to tell everybody that we're going to be at the auditorium on the 24th so fill it that's about three seconds worth so the rest is on you so you had to have a personality otherwise nobody gave a shit gave a shit so a lot of those guys do and this is a guy who does have a personality uh scott hall yes everybody remembers razor ramon from the 90s uh wwf and was so handsome then yeah he's a big strapping son of a bitch scott hall and uh yeah things have gone he's done some roller coasters and uh it's gone pretty downhill and then oh boy let's get right into this here it's scott hall scott oliver hall no he got beat with oliver he got beat with oliver but scott sounds like a big strapping dude

he's just he just seems like out of place if he's not at a strip club in Florida. You know what I mean? Like he should always be at a strip club in Florida because so many different things happen while he's at a strip club in Florida. You know how many times we're going to be visiting a strip club in Florida in this episode? It's amazing. It's so many times. That's awesome.

It's so many times. He's like a Motley Cr song kind of yeah and a lot of these wrestlers were like that too like a lot of them were bouncers in strip clubs and a lot of the times that they'd meet wrestlers either at the strip clubs right or at the gym because they'd have to be all big and jacked up because they're working at a big strip club and they're working the same hours they're working so they'd end up running into these wrestlers doing the workout hours of a stripper yeah and that's what it is a guy like uh you know kevin nash will say like he ran into guys at the at a gym and they were like holy shit look at the size of you like fuck you could probably be a

wrestler you're seven feet tall you weigh 300 pounds and you're jacked you could probably wrestle i would assume so that's how a lot of them got into the business is that way or you could just run into kevin kevin nash at a blockbuster because that's where yeah you could probably wrestle, I would assume. So that's how a lot of them got into the business, is that way. Or you could just run into Kevin Nash at a Blockbuster, because that's where you could see him here in Phoenix a lot. Anywhere. A Blockbuster. He was like the biggest fan of Blockbuster videos. I ran into him at an Outback Steakhouse, as a matter of fact, in 1998.

Yeah, he's just like, well, just go to Outback. Fuck it. I don't care. He loves businesses in the corporate office. Yeah, just go to Outback. I got stock I don't care. He loves businesses in the corporate office. Yeah, just go to Outback. I got stock there. That's kind of how he talks, too. These guys have the most grading style of speak.

Nash and Hall. Really? Of any human beings that have ever existed. Oh, yeah. I don't remember him talking. Oh, he talked a ton. Did I? Yeah.

Well, you probably remember him talking as Razor Ramon in the Spanish accent. That's probably it. But later on in WCW and later on, he always talked. And when he's on the mic, it's different. But when he's in an interview, they both have this like, hey, bro, I don't fucking know, man. Like, whatever. But like with this deep voice, like, hey, whatever, buddy.

It's so fucking irritating. That's how Kevin Nash really talks, though. Well, yeah, he talks. He's got the deepest voice ever. It's very good.. That's how Kevin Nash really talks, though. Well, yeah, he talks. He's got the deepest voice ever. It's very good. You know what I mean? So, Hall, too. Hall's voice is even deeper than Nash's.

Really? Oh, fuck yeah. Why don't I remember him? I remember him doing his hey-yo. And he was like, hey-yo. It was this deep thing. I can hear that. So, anyway.

Or is that Rocky? That's where he... It's all wrestling. wrestling okay we'll get into it let's do this he's born october 20th 1958 um he's born in maryland that man's 60 fucking years old he's 60 years old holy shit yeah he got he got started he wasn't nowadays the wrestlers get started a lot of times when they're 20 years old back then you couldn't be 20 years old and in wrestling unless you were like a legacy or something like one of the von erics or kurt hennig or one of those guys because you'd look like a child fighting a man who looked

like he could rip your head off your shoulders because all the guys back then were like you know fucking barrel chested huge guys that just look tough guys look like they'd kick your ass in a barn workers they look like the toughest guy at the foundry. You look at Magnificent Morocco from back then. He looked like he could kick your fucking ass. His head was the size of a watermelon. He's a big 280-pound son of a bitch and just looked like a tough guy. A lot of the guys like that back then.

And that's what it was, too. The wrestlers then didn't look like they do today. They didn't look like a tough guy a lot of the guys like that and that's what it was too the wrestlers then didn't look like like they do they didn't look like the rock they look like fashion models even the rock though is a college football player with an athletic background his family's in wrestling like roman reigns nobody looked like that then no and a lot of the guys that now they a lot of the guys now look like models that's what they look like they're very pretty they're very chiseled they all have the cut we went through one day when we were doing a wrestling research and sarah sarah i've gotten sarah into this also now so we look through and she goes i've noticed something and this is from someone who you know she's not a wrestling connoisseur and wasn't into it when

she was a kid she goes i look through this roster and um everybody here she goes because it's got the old school guys on there they're like under the legends contracts because it's got the old school guys on there, they're like under the Legends contracts and it's got all the new guys. She goes, every new guy that's like current, they all look exactly the same. She goes, they all have the same length of dark hair

and beard and they all look kind of greasy and they all have the same look and the only ones that stand out are the old school guys who you, if there's eight pictures on a page, you go,

there's Razor Ramon. He jumps off the screen whereas these guys now you go i can't you could switch their pictures most people wouldn't fucking notice unless you were really into it so it's one of those things it's so it's not a surprise that it's not quite as it's mainstream but it's not quite as uh fanatical the other question too on the sides with that being done is that aimed at trying to get a female audience to get the attractive male it's just when you when you when you hone something basically it started out as this kind of wild west thing and then mcmahon has honed it and honed it and then he went corporate in the early 2000s and now it's a publicly traded company right so all these guys not only are they 20 and they look like models they don't go out and party right they go up to their rooms and play video games and shit like

that now and dick around on social media and they're they're not he turned wrestling into a gated community yeah they're not the same guys they're not guys who somebody found bouncing at a strip club who's actually tough and who actually is like dude that guy might be able to kick your ass these guys now you look at them and they look all whatever, but you're like, I bet I could kick that guy's ass. Even though he looks like he weighs 220 and he's muscled, but I bet he's never been in a fucking fight in his life. Like, bottom line, I'll just fucking punch that guy in the nuts and the fucking fight's

over. He won't know it's coming. It's all just a manufactured appearance. It's all of the year. Not all of them, too. That's the thing. A lot of them. And they work.

The thing is, too, they're amazing at what they do they flip they do crazy shit that's impressive and it's just not the same uh i guess feel is what i'm getting at here so anyway scott hall grows up in maryland he's born in maryland his dad is in the army so he grows up everywhere he moves at least once a year he says army brat army brat and moves once a year which i went to a shitload of different schools i went to like fucking five elementary schools it sucks moving around when you're a kid that that gives you a weird personality trait of like i'm an observer because i like to i show up here tomorrow yeah i show up i gotta survey the landscape and i want to fucking like you know i like to take in and I'm like, okay, these people are like that. And that gets to be a skill after a while as you it's good for things like comedy. Yeah, because you're you're you get to read a room and you can quickly read a room when you show up and things like wrestling. It's the same type of thing. And it's good for that type of personality, but probably not good for normal personality, a life and sanity. Right. That's probably bad.

But probably not good for normal personality and sanity. That's probably bad. You view everything as temporary anyway, no matter the behavior. That's the thing. It's all temporary. And that was a lot of my shit growing up. We moved all the time. I always had shit packed just in case. I was a very, yeah, a lot of anxiety as a kid.

Not a lot of bicycles in your life. It's a skateboard. Something that a kid not a lot of bicycles in your life it's it's it's it's uh a skateboard something yeah i can grab that pick it up and hold it by the trucks and move man so uh yeah he his his father he the way he describes it his father his mother his grandparents everybody in his family is a severe alcoholic is the way he describes it everybody's a drunk and uh so genetically he's fucked on alcoholism and then just growing up he's just it right away he never had a chance with the alcohol it seems like anyway predisposed big time to it and he you know when he was drinking a little and then mushrooms out of control he uh i guess was in uh spent a lot of time in high school in germany

also so that's the other thing too that, when you go around to different places, you, I don't know, you figure out how to fit in and how to blend in and how to kind of get by. So I could kind of see that, like I said, being a valuable skill for like a wrestler or, or also for a criminal or a criminal say, or it's con man or not that he's a con man but that's there's a lot of different yeah you you want to be able to read your mark you know yeah no that's true that's there you go that's wrestling there you go that's what i mean that's wrestling and it's the same thing with comedy that's what i mean you have to be able to read all right what do these fucking people want tonight look at them out there yeah what do they want for me like dick joke lovers i don't know

well maybe maybe they're like fisting jokes yeah i think they're in the fisting jokes yeah they're past the dick jokes jimmy they're onto fisting so uh he uh he says that he was the man of the house at 15 you know a bunch of interviews i saw he says it from 15 on that he was you know kind of the the you know trying to earn money and just kind of be the man of the house and trying to act like a big guy and shit like that at that point. And like I said, difficult if you're moving around a lot to feel like you're grounded anywhere. He ends up going to some college in Maryland there. He ends up going to some college in Maryland there. And at one point, he was kind of hoping to do some academic things and kind of go back to school and further his academic life.

Because he's not a dumb guy. You can hear him talk for five minutes and you go, oh, this guy's not stupid at all. He's together. He's just a fucking addict is his problem. Great. Great. addict is his problem uh he great so he grows up and by 25 he is uh working as a bartender slash you know bouncer so he's a he's a big fucking guy yeah he grows up to be six seven is he that big yeah he's a big guy if you watch him this is what's weird you've never noticed that because

during his wrestling career for the last the part of it where he's very famous he's always standing next to kevin nash who's seven feet tall. He's a legit college basketball player. He's a seven foot tall guy. So standing next to him, Scott Hall always looked like he wasn't that big of a guy, but he's six foot fucking seven. He's a monster. He's bigger than Hulk Hogan.

Is he really? Put it that way. Yeah, he's bigger than Hulk Hogan. And they tried to make him be a Spanish guy? Well, we'll get to that. He tried to. it was we'll get to that yeah so uh january of 1983 okay now picture this 1983 in a and at the three dollhouse a strip club in orlando yeah so the dollhouse had three i said the dollhouse like you brought up in orlando this is a big that's the most popular fucking strip club in the planet huge big strip club he's a

he's working there okay he's right in the middle of all this uh you know big porn stash i'm talking porn stash curly mullet fuck yeah fucking jacked 260 pounds of muscle, hairy chest. Handsome guy. Back then when he was in his 20s, this motherfucker was a handsome cat. He looked like if Magnum P.I. had a brother that was worked out and was shirtless on the beach. That's what he looked like. That was like Ron Jeremy's deep end of the gene pool. I was going to say genetically superior relative. Yeah. For the 80s, that's what 80s women liked you know what i mean this is he was what 80s women were into okay so

he's working there uh that strip club still exists too yes it does it's uh he was working there's a chain there's a bunch of oh wow yeah there's one in la this feels like this is the original there's one in tampa too oh well that that might, well, that might be the nutsack of the strip club. There might be one in Daytona. I'll bet you there's one in Daytona. I guarantee there's one in Daytona. There's probably one in every city in Florida, I would assume. When I think of Florida, I just think of strip malls with strip clubs in them.

That's all I think of when I think of Florida. Ace Hardware, go over and have the buffet, throw a dollar in a thong. And, of course, the West Palm Beach Improv, which we'll be at on February 21st at Small Town Murder Live. So come to see that. I'll bet you there's a dollhouse there. There probably is. I'm going. You can go if you want.

We're not going as a team. We'll put it that way. I'm going to stay home. I can't. No, we're not going as a team. We'll put it that way. I'm going to stay home. I can't be bilked by fucking... Can't do it. So he's working there. It's January 15th, 1983. There's a problem. He has a problem with a guy at the strip club.

I mean, with alcohol, and it's late at night, and there's women around, and half of them don't have clothes on. And Scott Hall gets his ass kicked? What are you i don't know he's a giant at this point he's probably 250 of muscle still and uh he hasn't got into wrestling at this point yet he's just bouncing and bartending in the strip club he's about to but he's about to well he's about to get into some this is a quick this is one of the fastest jump in and have a horrible crime happen right away of a horrible thing happened this is this is huge so uh he's in a dispute uh he says it was over a girl that's all he remembers what it was and he said everybody was drinking everybody's doing coke you

know it's fucking florida in 1983 it's a it's a mess it's a mess you wanted to say disaster but it kind of got caught it could be a disease could be a disease it could be anything so he says uh it was some sort of dispute it wasn't based in like the guy didn't like you know uh break a glass in the in the strip club this was a personal dispute over a girl uh that they were they the both guys were after or whatever so uh we don't know exactly what happened so uh let's let's have an in their own words about this, because this is this is kind of a fucking this is crazy enough that we need to we need to let him tell it in their own words. Quote, I remember what he was wearing, what I was wearing, what it smelled like. It's burnt in my brain.

He smashed all the windshields out of my car. There's only one windshield. I walked outside and a security guard was there who watches the car i said where is he i found him i drilled him and he went down his shirt went up and he was reaching for the gun so i reached for it too we wrestled around with the gun i took it and shot him in the head point blank with a 45 caliber a guy is dead and i'm the reason and this is bad what the fuck yeah he uh got in a scuffle outside a strip club but i guess this guy i'm sure he had a trans am of some kind or a camaro of some tons of windshields tons of windshields everywhere there's a car has one

windshield but i get what he's saying probably broke out his t-tops too apparently this guy smashed all the glass in his car and he knew it was this guy found him and he's a fucking monster started drilled him and uh this guy i'm sure fearing for his life went for his gun and scott hall at that point fearing for his life too took it away went for the gun as well this is why carrying a gun can be dangerous sometimes and it doesn't necessarily because if you run into a giant guy who you're the person you need the gun for might take it away from you especially and then they're going to use it yes that's the thing never have your gun at a strip club oh there's no need for tits and guns to ever be in the same room i'm sorry like exposed tits that are there for entertainment purposes guns and waistbands yeah i'm not saying women shouldn't have guns but if you go to watch ladies you and earn money, you shouldn't bring weaponry with you.

Why are you bringing a gun for that? That's a joyous occasion that they're trying to make. You only need one gun for that. So, yeah. Jesus. So, yeah. He shot a guy with a.45 caliber point blank in the face. Unbelievable.

That is quite the beginning to the tale here. Where do you go from there? How do you have a life after that that's a public eye life? He's an anomaly already. The thing, luckily for him, this was before he was famous at all. It was just another strip club dispute in Florida,

which probably five a night, I would assume, where people end up dead down there. But he's immediately arrested and charged with second degree murder. And they changed his name from George Zimmerman. Yes. he's immediately arrested and charged with second degree murder. Right. So he changed his name from George Zimmerman. Yes. That's it.

It's complicated. And he grew a foot, really worked on his physique. He was tired of getting pushed around. He said, damn it. That skinny kid shouldn't have been able to kick my ass. Start working out. So I'm assuming that the man was not black in a hoodie either. Probably not. No, I assume these are a bunch of man was not black in a hoodie either. Probably not.

In this situation. I assume these were a bunch of drunken white guys in this Florida strip club. So he spends three days in jail out of this before it's dismissed because of insufficient evidence. Because they basically said it just looks like a fight that somebody self-defense. This is Florida. Right. If there's a gun and so it goes off and it's like yeah you know whatever yeah you know how it goes i don't know they were

in a scuffle things could have happened whatever what's one less strip club patron fuck it so that's florida's uh state motto what's one less strip club patron fuck it it's right on their sign when you cross in from georgia so uh the judge or prosecutor said he brought a what to where no throw it out here throw it out let the man free where was it at the strip club ah who cares jesus christ can't have that kind of publicity get this out of here get this off the docket one oh no so yeah so he's this is an interesting thing here so now he's killed a man and not even even just killed a man. This wasn't like a car accident and the guy died.

This is a point-blank gunshot. He got brain on him. This is like, yeah, he went back inside with his fucking tank top, I'm sure, with brain on it. That's what happened. That's like the brain curl, that spot. Fucking skull fragments were on him. That's how close he was point blank yeah so i don't know 45 with a 45 that leaves a hell of a hole oh boy point blank that's everything holy shit it goes in one side the back of his head would be gone yeah so this is a yeah this is a rough way to

start out what little counseling you might need after that to talk about that just a little break of some kind he says he just pushed it down and tried to forget about it that was his uh that was his way uh he said quote i i did probably the most unhealthy thing i could have done i should have sought counseling right then but i didn't know anything i was a kid yeah Yeah. So that was it. 25? He's 25. Wow.

He's 25, and he grew up in not a great family environment, a bunch of alcoholics moving all over the place. Yeah. Busy dad. He didn't know, I should go get help now. And, you know, macho environment, too. Wow. He probably just thought, oh, well, you know, people's friends are probably patting him

on the back. Good for you. You got out of it. Good job. And he was like, yeah, it's great. I mean, people's friends are probably patting him on the back. Good for you. You got out of it. Good job. And he was like, yeah, it's great. I mean, you think of any other way that that can play out. The guy was reaching for it. Yeah.

I mean, he could have. I mean, OK, if we're talking from a legal standpoint, when the man broke all his window, all his, quote, windshields out, he could have then called the police. He could have had the man arrested. That would have been the end of it. But I understand if you see your car and all the shit punched out and you look over and there's the guy standing there why let's cut out the middleman i'm gonna go fucking pound this guy in a hamburger and then this guy escalates it to weaponry right which you know what if you if you break out a bunch of somebody's windows and don't flee the scene immediately and the guy's a giant monster it's

on you you're asking to get your ass kicked at that point and you have no right to pull out a fucking gun i'm sorry you should you you deserve a cut three shots right in the face he gets out of that three good punches also the other part that i'm trying to look at it through is the prism and lens of a man that is huge and i can't monstrous i can't i can't i'll never fathom that no i'll never fathom that. No. I'll never fathom any judgment made beyond, here's all my windshields broken. Yeah. You don't know how to think of, I better take it easy because I'm a monster. Right. Yeah.

Well, I think that goes out the window once you see the gun, too. Right. It's like, oh, I guess we're all even now at that point. Yeah, that's the equalizer for sure. Yeah, that's it. That puts everybody the same height when there's one gun. Yeah. Everybody's the same size with a gun.

This is it. Unless one of the bigger person takes it away from you and then you have a problem. But even then, he took it away. See, I don't know how if he, if it was a wrestle. It seems like he took it away and shot him. So it seems like he could have thrown it or done something else with it. Put it in his own waistband. Put it in his.

And then keep fucking working this guy over. I don't know. You're winning the fight. If he's going to win the fight if he's reaching for a gun. Yeah, that's your winning. You know what I mean? Well, he said he drilled him right in the face. And if this guy punched you in the face, you'd fall down.

He's a fucking giant person. So it all ended up working out semi-well in one regard because he ends up getting the charges dropped and he ends up being with that woman for about seven more years after that. The woman that he was defending? The woman that he was the woman that he was in a fight over in a dispute over so i guess once you you know barn door your competition's skull uh then you can take the woman and nobody is i guess that's the end of the dispute i mean if somebody if if a woman beat the hell out of somebody and took the gun from them and shot them in my honor at the same

time as her windshields i think it was mainly in the honor of the windshields i think yeah i don't think it had that seemed to be his main beef i might marry her too was his windshield he didn't marry her they just stayed together all right uh but at this point he gets out of orlando apparently moves to tampa uh he goes to the gym a lot because like he's i said he's a big jacked up guy and you know this strip club bouncer bartender culture is you have to be this jacked up guy that can walk around with no shirt on with your porn stash kicking very odd time in our history that this came from it's still today still but this was especially back then they had coke all in their porn stash at that point nobody cared you didn't even tell someone you got some shit in bed.

It was just like, yeah, cool. Got any more, bro? Or somebody would be like, can I get a lick of your pee? Yeah, get a lick of your stash. I'll lick that for you. That's the thing in the 80s that people don't remember is people just walking up to other people saying, can I lick your stash, man? And people are like, yeah, sure. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it.

Can I go see my mom after this? Yeah, so please clean me up. They groom each other like monkeys. So he moves to Tampa. He's going to the gym, and he wants to be a wrestler at this point. Okay, we've talked about this before if you've listened to Crime and Sports at all. Wrestling was regional, and in the 80s was the peak of all of these regions, the early 80s. Like, 83, we're talking about.

This is when nothing had shut down yet vince mcmahon was just taking over he was just stealing everybody's talent hogan was going to debut in 84 for him and then you know we go down that road and things start to close and you know whatever this is pre that this is when everything is cooking this is kind of the most popular wrestling has ever been and i honestly think and i've heard arguments in this favor too that it was more popular then than it was in the 90s when it was you know getting nine nine ratings on or eight ratings on on tv right because back then it wasn't just two companies that had weekly shows this was every region of the country i mean look at the

south they had florida they had georgia they had albama had their own territory and tennessee louisiana every one of these places had their own thing and every night they were running at least one if not two shows all of these people and they were all selling well all over the country so it's like everybody was it was a big very popular thing so for him you know this makes sense that you know you would be like shit i'm a big giant jacked up guy i look at hulk hogan and i go i'm that size right you know he's on bigger he's on roids he's got weight on me but fuck i could be that big and why not you know i'm as athletic as that guy and he's bald as fuck i mean let's be realistic here and that's what i've

heard a lot of wrestlers that are bigger back in the day they'd say they'd see hogan yeah see what he could do and go i could do that yeah that's kevin nash said lot of wrestlers that are bigger back in the day. They'd say they'd see Hogan, see what he could do, and go, I could do that. That's Kevin Nash that he saw that. He said, I went to an event in Detroit, Kevin Nash did, and he said, I saw Hogan, and I said, I was looking at the top of his head, and I go, he's fucking short. And I saw what he could do, and he goes, I could fucking do that. I could do way better than that. I was a college athlete.

This guy, he's stumbling around in there. He's like, I could fucking than that. I was a college athlete. This guy, you know, he's stumbling around in there. I was like, I could fucking do that. It's hilarious that with his hairline, he had the audacity to call himself Hollywood Hulk Hogan. Hollywood Hulk Hogan.

Well, that was when he was a bad guy, so it kind of made sense. Hollywood. With that hairline. All right. Hollywood after all his fucking failures

at the box office. Never mind his hairline. How about Mr. Nanny? Let's talk about that, Hulkster. Let's talk about Suburban Commando before we talk about your goddamn... Suburban Commando. Let's talk about that, Hulkster. Let's talk about Suburban Commando before we talk about your goddamn... Let's talk about Santa with muscles before we decide to talk about hairlines.

Suburban Commando was hysterical. It was hysterical. It was a stupid, dumb movie. Christopher Lloyd's like, I was in Back to the Future four fucking years ago. Do you understand that? What is this? What happened to me? You're not Michael J. Fox. is that what happened to me you're not

michael j fox you have no talent and you're holding that drink very still anyway he wants to be a wrestler here uh he says that he contemplated suicide along at this time he's going through a very dark period of depression and he's drinking a lot too and uh after the after the shooting he's just had some weird shit going on he never got any help for it he says that uh he was raised as a catholic though and he was very catholic at the time and uh he didn't want to go to hell he said that he uh didn't want quote to go to hell and that's where i thought suicide victims went and i was afraid of hell what about the guys that kill people yeah no they're fine well in the

eyes of the law jimmy in the eyes of the state of florida that was legit which i think is the same as god right i think god usually refers to the state of florida yeah to figure out what had a rule on things he's their supreme court so they only go to him yeah yeah i can't figure it out absolutely so he ran into wrestlers at the gyms, as was the plan. And from what I understand and from what I've heard him say before, first people he ran into was Mike Rotundo and Barry don't remember him he's a tall at the time in the 80s a thin blonde guy his father was black jack mulligan who was a big giant star big giant cowboy guy and uh so anyway he he uh he found those two guys mike rotundo was like irs and the guy with the tie and like suspenders wrestling like why is that guy in a suit right that guy uh yeah that's the other guy so he found him this was then and they found him and uh kind of said hey how do i be a wrestler type of thing and florida had their own territory down there which was so many of them down there so many

this was championship wrestling from florida which was eddie graham's uh eddie graham's promotion eddie graham this is a weird story too eddie graham who ran this promotion who was very successful with it and then things went not so successful and he lost money in a real estate deal and had problems with a woman and ended up killing himself. Oh, wow. And then later on down the line, this was in the last five years, his son Mike Graham also shot himself. Oh, no.

And then Mike Graham's son also shot himself. What is going on with the Grahams? So three generations of suicides in the Grahams. They're like the Von Eriks of the East Coast. The Von Eriks had all those suicides and deaths as well. But yeah, it turned into a mess. But in 1984, things were going great. Everybody was alive.

Nobody feeling bad. Nobody feeling bad. Business was good. All right. Everything's all right. You know what I mean? Everybody's swinging. That is a terrible story, James.

There's not a lot of happy endings. You said this is a good story endings when you start any wrestling story james this is a good story i mean for our purposes for what we do it's interesting anyway you know if it's good so much as it's interesting story i think that's what you said this is a good story three generations of suicides isn't this good family name is wiped out good right gone fucking terrible fantastic but most wrestling stories end with that and with there's not a lot of huge there's success stories but they're not there's not so many of the men poorly yeah the movie the wrestler is very apt for too many people put it that way so the happy endings and success stories are vastly outnumbered they're they're outnumbered a lot like it's same with it's like comedy it's the same thing yeah you start out with i mean you

start out with a bunch of guys doing comedy and by 10 years in a few of them are are crazy they've lost their fucking minds posting weird shit posting weird shit yeah they have that going on people are doing menial jobs still hanging on to this dream of comedy even though they suck at it and they're 45 years old it's the same thing yeah they get into alcohol or they're it's a mess yeah so they don't usually not see the thing about comedy though they don't get too much into drugs because they can't afford them right that's the only difference later they much into drugs because they can't afford them. That's the only difference. Later, they get into drugs.

But booze is free at the club. That's the problem there. Well, at least two. At least. At least. Maximum two. Yeah. Well, unless you know.

Yeah. Unless you're half decent and then you can get as much as you want. You get two beers and a slice of pizza. Oh, if you're at an open one. Yeah. I've got a real club. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's fantastic. They'll feed you until you fall down the stairs.

Feed you booze. They're great. And they'll feed you booze until your headliner says, no more for, yeah. Oh, that's fantastic. They'll feed you until you fall down the stairs. Feed you booze. They're great. Feed you booze until your headliner says no more for that. No more for that guy. He's terrible. Here's how he brought me up. Jesus Christ. He mispronounced my name.

So he starts in 1984 in championship wrestling from Florida. And he is a big, impressive looking son of a bitch in the 80s. In the 80s, a lot of the guys this is between eras so you had the guys like hogan that were big didn't big and jacked up and muscled you had a few guys like that and then you had your uh holdovers from the older days of more of the you know they had a beer belly yeah they had a belly big barrel chested tough guy with a belly and like skinnier legs and all that kind of shit and then guys like scott hall came in and was like i mean he's a physical fucking specimen compared to these guys um he was he was in uh doing some stuff with dusty roads when he first

came in so i mean right away they made him an important guy like a big shot and that's with comedy it's like it's like if you're uh if you're young yeah it's the same thing have two jokes yeah if you're young and have two jokes and they feel like yeah people are attracted to that in some way they'll put you on it's the same way here in wrestling like they always talk about these guys need experience they need to work and that's the that is true unless they're six seven right and look like a fucking you know and a big handsome strapping handsome, strapping dude. Then they're going to go, they'll figure it out as they go. Lex Luger, they did the same thing.

He barely got trained. They were like, look at this fucking guy. Get him in the ring. He never knew what he was doing because he never had the chance to learn. That's essentially their talent, though, is being big and handsome. Yeah. Well, it's the same thing as comedians

when you throw that into that situation. They never learn because they're always in this, they never get a chance to hone anything. Develop. develop a personality out how to be yeah because you're always under pressure to perform right you can't be under pressure to produce and and come up with things and i feel like that's kind of constantly being used because you fit a fucking mold that they need at this moment exactly because that's what's trending james and you can you guys can decide whether we're talking about comedy or wrestling because same thing the same on both ends i was just going to say which one are you talking about no it doesn't matter no so uh yeah he ends up also

he he does some other shit here i know he ends up in in uh missouri at some point in uh in central states for a little bit here uh he's at one point here he's formed jesus christ he's a tag team with a guy named danny spivey who's a big tough son of a bitch too there he's a good other guy's like six foot seven and they make them uh their tag team name is american starship okay and uh this is fucking amazing uh the scott hall's name is starship coyote no starship coyote what in the fuck does that even mean i have no idea and danny spivey was starship eagle so luckily for him that's the worst name he's ever going to get in wrestling and he gets it out of the way uh right out of the bat there uh so american stars american starship which is i don't know if they're going for like jefferson

starship or something and then he chose a spanish they didn't they didn't he did he just broke in they said this is what you are yeah that he didn't have any say in this shit when he came in they're not going to take some yeah some guy who just started and say who would you like to be they're like we need this we're gonna team you with that big giant guy this is who you are get out there and pose starship um eagle american star he's starship coyote spivey's eagle okay so you know this is don't fuck it up don't fuck it up yeah i know he's in missouri because i've heard the story at one point of uh marty genetti the second rocker there sean michaels old tag team partner who will most certainly have an episode about he is amazing uh well one point uh scott hall hears i guess guys would charge shit

to each other's rooms that was a little that's a little joke that they play on each other they'll be like oh yeah and charge it to this guy and to a certain degree it's funny and then you'll get the guy back and they fuck with each other apparently uh somebody did this to scott hall pretty severely okay ran up a bunch of shit on his room bill, and somebody told Scott that it was Marty Jannetty that did it. So Marty Jannetty was asleep in the locker room, and he said he awoke to being pummeled by Scott Hall. So imagine you're, Jannetty's not a big guy.

He's maybe six foot tall, probably 230 pounds, and then you have this giant son of a bitch. Imagine waking up to a six foot seven 260 pound man pummeling the fuck out of you for something you didn't do didn't do it didn't do it at all he's to this day he's like it wasn't me that i don't know why the fuck he did it oh jesus and i guess so yeah this was a big deal so he fucked up genetti good lumped them all up and he was all destroyed whoever did that yeah to look at genetti's face yeah it was supposed to be me but they look at that and laugh and they go now i got that that's a double rip i got him and him this is great that was what they used to do that's what they used to do they used to do terrible shit and then insinuate that this guy did it so then you not only got this guy but

then he goes and gets that guy and then he's pissed at him and it's this giant thing and you you're not even involved in it and you caused it lumped up though that's how they used to do it because they're bored they're going from town to town with the same guys every fucking night they're fucking bored it's a big group of jacked up dudes or bored and drunk and everything else there's a point where where a joke goes too far though and it's oh yeah it's when somebody is being assaulted oh well that's this happened all the time oh jesus the whole thing i told you about uh i think it was a jake the snake episode where we talked about uh uh jacques rougeau and the dynamite kid and all of that shit uh that was

jacques rougeau very very quickly wrestling fans thing they cut they cut the pants up and then they were told that it was the british bulldogs the rouges were so they they got mad and told vince mcmahon vince mcmahon got pissed all the bulldogs bulldogs came over said why did you fucking tell on me and it turns out that they didn't even tell on him it was some it was some mistake of something and so did somebody get lumped up oh jesus christ well there was jobs lost injuries uh dynamite kid came up while they were playing cards and smacked jacques rousseau in the ear off his fucking chair and wanted to fight him right there uh ends up you know he smacked him around a little bit so jacques rousseau got pissed off and uh basically

trained for a month to knock this guy out talk to his dad his dad told him to get a roll of quarters from the bank literally what the fuck caught dynamite Kid coming out of the cafeteria at a TV taping and just didn't say shit and just pounded him with a roll of quarters in his hand. Unbelievable. Knocked his fucking teeth out. Wow. Knocked him down, bloodied him up. And then because Dynamite Kid, of course, wanted to kill him afterwards, the Bulldogs ended up leaving WWF in the 80s because of this whole thing. All starting with a rib.

That was a stupid joke that somebody, just to fuck with somebody's pants, to fuck with him, to fuck with him. It escalated into this big thing with serious injuries and huge dental bills

and people literally being fired and going off to different places. It's crazy. I want to know how much money was charged to Scott Hall's room. Yeah, who knows? You know what I mean? In the 80s in Missouri, it could have been $40. I want to know how much money was charged to Scott Hall's room. Yeah, who knows? You know what I mean? In the 80s in Missouri, it could have been $40.

Right. I would have been like, I only made $25. These guys at that point were making $50 a night. That's where I'm at. You know? And if you were in Central States, that was a shit. I think it was Central States. That was a shit promotion.

That's the equivalent of at the comedy club, somebody taking your validated tag and leaving their unvalidated parking. Yeah. Hey, that's $3 that's three dollars right and now you've got to go pay for that for the privilege for the amount that i've been paid to be here tonight yeah and now i don't now i'm gonna have to put more money out to put in this fucking parking that's the truth so after that he goes to uh awa and this is kind of his big break. AWA we talked about a lot. AWA is Buck Zumhoff's main promotion with old Vern Gagne there and that whole shit. So listen to the Buck Zumhoff episode if you want a full. It's hilarious. Also, don't eat before.

Don't eat before. But yeah, our description of the AWA is pretty goddamn good. See Wrestle Rock Rumble. Do see that. And we'll talk more about this because scott hall is in he's in the video for the wrestle rock rumble so oh yes he is boy so he comes in uh at first they called him magnum scott hall yeah there was this thing of calling people magnum because of magnum pi you can't do that they did well there was magnum ta

in the in nwa who was uh terry allen this guy. Well, there was Magnum T.A. in N.W.A., who was Terry Allen, this guy, Magnum T.A., who was a handsome guy with a mustache. So Magnum T.A., he ended up getting into a horrible car accident, never wrestling again, in 86, when he was at the peak of his popularity. Horrible. Very Florida of him.

And at this point here, Magnum Scott Hall, because he's a big strapping dude with a mustache. But you can't name a guy that's shot somebody in the fucking head after a sidearm. You can't do that. Well, they ended up changing it later on. And this is his first. This is a really creative nickname first. I mean, Starship Coyote, that's pretty creative.

But this is much better. He goes as Big Scott Hall. Perfect. Big. That's better. That's his nickname. Believe it or not, better than Magnum. That's Big Scott Hall. I like that. Yeah. better he goes as a big scott hall for perfect big that's better that's his nickname believe it or not better than magnum it's big scott hall i like that yeah if the choices are magnum or big

scott hall yeah especially because other people were magnum right i think it was like a race to have magnums they like oh they named that guy magnum for shit all right so he they looked at him this was the year after hulk hogan left hulk hogan left over a year and a half hulk hogan left in late 83 so he they look at him and they go oh this could be hulk hogan yeah they go holy shit look at him he's the same size as hulk hogan he's younger than hulk hogan full head of hair more handsome than hulk hogan mustache muscles more muscular than hulk hogan even well yeah he was at the time he was fucking he was righted out and jacked and and but ripped now hogan was never like like as ripped as his waist was tiny yeah scott hall had like he was a big yeah and uh and so they made him a good guy and

they were like he could be it but when he's when you have a two years experience and hogan has a charisma whatever you think about hogan's bad actor all that shit he's when you have two years experience and hogan has a charisma whatever you think about hogan's bad actor all that shit he's got a certain charisma in wrestling that nobody else really has you know at the time anyway no one else really had besides maybe maybe dusty roads or something but dusty roads didn't look like hulk hogan so there really wasn't anybody no back that's why he was so popular he looked like that and he looked he looked like a he-man action figure was he the one essentially that really made them craft to the the what wrestling

became into like 88 89 because they everybody had like everybody was so specific you know what i mean like junkyard dog well yeah they they vince mcmahon literally took everybody and was like okay i need a mexican yeah i need a Mexican. I need a black guy. I need an Iranian. I need a Russian. Like, look at the rock and wrestling cartoon from the 80s. That's what I was looking at. It was ethnic groups.

They had Piper in the front, and they had Nikolai Volkov, the Russian, and they had Iron Sheik, and they had all the bad guys. And then on the other side, they had a black guy. They had Tito Santana. They had a black guy, Junkyard Dog. Big blonde guy in the front, Hulk Hogan. Andre the Giant, who's a giant. Jimmy Snuka they would have in there as the island guy. That's what they wanted.

They wanted cartoon characters. And it stood out. They wanted guys where if you looked at a wrestling figure, you'd go, holy shit. I know exactly who that is. Exactly who that is. He's distinctive. His colors are distinctive. His outfit, his head, his look, his voice. Everything's distinctive. I love Junkyard Dog. And they've got Junkyard Dog. He was distinctive. His colors are distinctive. His outfit, his head, his look, his voice, everything's distinctive.

I love Junkyard Dog. He was great, Junkyard Dog. And then he got fat and lazy. He wasn't great anymore. Like an old dog. Yeah, like an old dog. You can tell Junkyard Dog just look at the top of his head and however big his bald spot

is, the bigger it is, the worse he is. Because he was really good then it started getting a little thin on top and he started getting a little heavier and a little lazier and a little less fucking you know spry in the ring and then the more he just lost that hair in that bald spot the worse he got and the worse he got till finally he just had to shave his head and he had a big gut hanging over and horrible wasn't good that's basically the same with every guy ever in history of no matter what he does yeah the bigger the bald spot the worse he is what he does yeah man unless like like stocks maybe or something like that but athletically reading anything athletically yeah your bald spot's going to be directly

correlating to your lack of athleticism i would say so uh yeah so this is now verne gagne is trying to uh push him ahead here uh uh they even they've his mustache even got bigger just to be like well hogan has that handlebar i feel like that's what they were doing i have no idea but they gave him the same just be a big guy don't go off your feet uh they end up putting him as a tag team partner with kurt hennig who was mr perfect later on who's one of my all-time top three favorite guys it's hennig and piper and then i'm not sure who is the third i haven't decided no no no i'm not sure but anyway kurt hennig but i liked him because nobody else was in you know what i mean like you find the one i always gravitated to the one that

everybody else didn't like like that was my guy yeah and and that like that was piper when i first started watching everybody hated piper and these guys great right yeah that's when i i had a revelation with wrestling when i figured out that bad guys were doing that shit on purpose and i went oh my god that's amazing that is fucking genius brilliant it was actually the honky tonk man really gave me that realization because he was such an asshole yeah he's like if you don't know he was basically like an elvis impersonator type of character but he was so good at being a dick that i and then i realized what he was doing and i was like he's fucking brilliant he would come out and he'd have his terrible theme song that he sang and he'd come out and it was singing and he would come out and he'd sing a

little bit and like fucking act like he was playing guitar and he would say thank you folks folks and if he's getting booed out of the building and he'd go you folks are so wonderful thank you folks so much and just for being such a wonderful audience one more time with that song let's go everybody come on and he'd suck and they'd fucking ball you motherfucker and people throw things at him and then i went that is brilliant what an asshole that's great second verse same as the first he just no he's gonna start that song again let's one more time for these beautiful people thank you folks so much you just wonderful fans and they're throwing things at him he's like i really appreciate all the love and respect you folks are giving me dennis rodman was definitely a wrestling fan right

yeah he was in wrestling we'll talk about that but i mean he was he had to be a huge wrestling fan early oh yeah yeah because you could tell he essentially just translated that to the nba yeah that's what he was so many that's why i loved muhammad ali was a giant wrestling fan muhammad ali said that he got his personality from gorgeous george from classy freddie blassie who was in in the wwf at this point from all the wrestling guys he said he would see how they would get people to cut he figured out that oh they talk and do interviews and that's how they get people to come to the shows yeah well fuck if i do that fuck and it's a legit winning yeah and then i talk to they're gonna fucking

come and he was right that's why he made himself the most popular character ever but it's true he took on wrestling shit that he liked from the, because he grew up in that area. There was a lot of wrestling in Kentucky. Louisville. That was a big, it's a huge wrestling area there. There's a ton of wrestling. So anyway, at that point here, he tagged teams with Kurt Hennig. Jesus Christ.

They win the World Tag Team Championships. Wow. 1986. And we won't go over all the belts that this guy wins because there's like 700 000 titles we're not going to say he won the tag team title again this is not about that they are numerous they're numerous he's good yeah we'll just say that uh they beat uh gorgeous jimmy garvin and steve regal who not the english steve regal for wrestling fans the shitty little blonde dirtbag looking steve regal who used to fight Buck Zumhoff all the time in the AWA.

Somehow they let those guys be tag team champions. Really? Not only that, those guys beat the Road Warriors to get the tag team titles. And then Scott Hall and Kurt Hennig beat him. After that, they end up losing the titles to Playboy Buddy Rose and Pretty Boy Doug Summers, which is that they look like a couple of child molesters

who hang out at a sleazy dive bar, but they used to fight the Midnight Rockers at the time, and it used to be on ESPN after school when I was very little, and I used to watch that shit every fucking day. I was enthralled. This is the time period when I was watching this shit on ESPN every day,

AWA Wrestling, and being into it. You know what's amazing is that you can spit out the phrase, they look like a couple of child molesters, and everybody listening goes, I know what that guy looks like. I know what that guy looks like. I didn't have to Google that. If you Google Doug Summers, Google pretty boy Doug Summers, and take a look at that guy and tell me that guy doesn't look like he's got children

in his basement right now. Right fucking now. Right. Buddy Rose is actually a great wrestler, and he just got really fat and out of shape and he turned it into a comedy thing but it is so hilarious that you just you you know what that guy looks like he looks like a weenie uh a complete dickhead yeah well he looks like summers looks like he looks like a dirtbag he looks like a guy that got kicked out

of the strip club he's not even allowed to stay because he he creeped a few of the girls out like that's what he looks like so they could they participate in wrestle rock 86 like we've talked about do yourself a favor if you have if you're a new listener just google wrestle rock rumble uh watch the video and thank us fucking later because it is wrestlers in 1986 from the whitest promotion in the world minneapolis-based fucking ran by an old man verne gania uh rapping and it's amazing and him and kurt hennig uh have this little segment where they rap and then girls push them in a pool that's them that i remember that shoved in the pool and like they do like big back big sport yeah. Big, giant. That's big, dramatic. Yeah. There's no way a woman could push a man that big. No, no. As dainty as those girls are.

No, they were like they were Playboy models. These girls literally. And then Scott Hall comes out to 80 of muscle with all his hair all wet and his mustache dripping fucking pool water. And she got him off off and center grabbing. You know it. You know it. Jesus Christ.

off off fucking center of gravity you know it you fucking know it jesus christ so eventually he and uh uh kurt heading our tag team partners anymore uh they start to uh they you know they break them up because kurt heading ends up uh feuding with the champ at the time was nick bockwinkle and ends up becoming the champ a little bit later on and had a great match on new year's eve not on new year's eve but they aired it on New Year's Eve of 86. That was fucking awesome. And when I was a little kid, I had nothing else to do because it was New Year's Eve and I was, you know, seven. So I watched it and I fucking loved it.

Loved every minute of it. It was great. So anyway, he ends up, you know, kind of hanging around the AWA for a while, eventually ends up in the in the NWA, which by this time had become uh ted turner had bought them right in late 88 uh so this is uh it was basically jim crockett promotions but not anymore because it w uh wcw ted turner had bought it and it was becoming wcw at that point so completely unrelated to uh straight out of compton completely unrelated yes. This is an older NWA that does not feature angry young black men rapping very well.

Furious against the police. No, not at all. They actually, yeah, that's the difference, is that that NWA rapped very well. Yeah, they were good at it. These guys don't. Terrible. I can't imagine some of these guys rapping here.

So he goes there, and they call him scott hall now when they bring him in this time and he they make him a cowboy yeah and it is fucking ridiculous he's got he's got like this blonde frost to his hair and it's the late 80s and he's kind of got like a fluffy mullet it's like a big curly one and he's got a big old fucking push broom and he's big and jacked up and there's this one interview of him he's got a cowboy hat on and like a vest. And you're just like, oh, dude, no, don't be a cowboy. Shockingly, this doesn't work very well. And yeah, it's really, really, really, really weird.

But strangely enough, it doesn't work out too well. Yeah. He ends up they end up just making him a fucking jobber after a while and he loses a whole bunch and ends up kind of going underground for a little bit here. He leaves WCW and maybe it's because he met another woman. Oh. And he meets a woman and he ends up getting married in February of 1990. Great. He marries a woman named Dana Burgios at the time.

Dana, she'll be this, she's a long suffering. Italian girl. She'll be hanging out for a Burgios. the time. Dana, she's a long-suffering. Italian girl. She'll be hanging out for a Burgios. I'm not sure if she's Italian. No? Sounds Greek, maybe. Dana Burgios sounds super Italian to me. Burgios?

Yeah. How many G-O-S's are there in Italian? I don't know. Dana Vesey. There's all kinds of weird. That's a vowel at the end. There's an S on the end of this. I'm thinking Greek.

Maybe. Possibly. There's a U, an I-O, and an S. That's a lot. That's at the end. That sounds Greek. I hear fucking Italian. I don thinking Greek. Maybe. Possibly. There's a U, an I-O, and an S. That's a lot. That sounds Greek. I hear fucking Italian. Hungarian. I don't know.

Well, your ears are fucked up. If it was Burgioso, I'd say yes. Yeah, all right. That goes a little better. It's like maybe it was shortened. Maybe she is. Maybe, yeah. That's a possibility.

Maybe it was Burgiosiani. It could have been Burgiosiolioso for all I fucking know. Who knows? It sounds Italian to me. Dean Martinelli? No, you're Dean Martin, pal. Yeah, it's going to sell better. Sorry.

Nobody's going to let the kids buy those filthy Guinness albums. So he marries her. This is when he first goes down to Puerto Rico and wrestles down there for a while for WWC. He'll go back and forth down there whenever he's unemployed or, you know, whenever he's fucked up and been fired from somewhere or moving on or in between. He goes down there May 31st, 1991. He has a son. Oh, boy.

They have a son. Name? Yeah. Cody. Yeah. Not a junior. Not a junior at all. After that, he's got to make some dough here and he says at this point he he's got another run in him basically the cowboy thing really fucked him up he didn't

want to do that anymore so that really that made him upset and kind of ruined his whole outlook of the business as i don't blame him you're on his side right now that sounds terrible yeah wherever it that was what they used to do to guys back then when they didn't know what to do with him. They were like, he's a cowboy. Put a hat on him. It's like, well, he's not a cowboy, though. They used to do that shit all the time.

The Irwins, they made them the long riders and they were like Minnesota hockey players. They made them cowboys. It's like, why are you making them cowboys? Sounds like their budget's empty. I guess a hat's a cheap costume. Right, that's all it is. But the guys had to get their own costumes back then.

You can buy one at a truck stop for four bucks. But they had a creative team. You understand? They had like the WCW back then. They had a whole round table of bookers. And they said that one guy, the big, giant, handsome, jacked up guy, I'm just making him a cowboy. And then everyone went,

yeah, cowboy, that's going to work. Fuck yeah. How many good cowboy gimmicks have there been since 1982? Good? Like that were popular. Oh, okay. Like I can't think of a bunch of them.

There's not a whole lot of them. I thought you were leaning on that good part. No, not the good part. They're all terrible. They're all terrible. They're all, like Cowboy Bob Horton was okay when he was with piper in the 80s he was cool and blackjack mulligan was fine in the 70s and you know and blackjack lanza those guys there are a lot of comedians today

that are running on this whole premise of the cowboy outfit is a stupid dated thing i don't mind it if you're gonna be if you're gonna embrace it go ahead that's fine it's a halloween costume it's pretty silly let's be realistic here i've said this when i first started comedy is one of my first jokes is they dress they put their big intercontinental title belt buckle on and they go to work like that like that's a how i can't dress up like batman and go to work just on a wednesday how you doing no no this is just how i dress now this is what i do no you work in an office you're not a cowboy sorry it's fine is my point i suppose if you want to be look silly i mean you can wear a shirt over it nobody fucking sees it yeah but the hat is that's my point is that that

hat makes such a statement it It's a huge giant hat. It screams. Talk to me. It doesn't just hug your head. It goes out wide. So big. Yeah. Unless you work like I work outside and I used to wear them because for actual sun.

Yeah. Yeah. For actual purpose. It's right. It's different. Yeah. Right. It's purpose built.

You can tell because when you see landscapers like a bunch of Mexican dudes, they're wearing like floppy old lady hats. They're wearing literally like hats they got out of the old lady section and they're like that's gonna block my shit from the sun yeah there we go that's my shoulders and everything beautiful look at that whole i got a big fucking glaucoma fucking net glaucoma hood over here so uh this time when he returns it's a little bit different this time uh this is this is pretty slick here he turns into uh diamond dallas page gets a hold of him here now diamond dallas page we talked about a lot he's the guy who uh took jake the snake robertson and did the ddp yoga

which is big now and basically brought jake the snake roberts from being a cripple uh who was couldn't move to uh you to being able to do things. Go do live shows. Go do live shows and tour the country and shit like that. Thanks a lot, DDP. Thanks, DDP. So DDP is one of these guys. Everybody likes DDP.

He helps everybody out. So many stories, if you watch shoot interviews with wrestlers, start with, I called DDP up and he talked to this guy for me. DDP called me and said he could do this for me. The guy, I don't know how the hell he had time to do his own thing because he was always helping everybody and doing shit. One of those switchboard microphones. Yeah, he's got a Bobby Brown, my prerogative fucking headset on and he's just walking around

like that. Making phone calls. Making calls. Doing shoot interviews and shit. Hold on one second. I got an interview real quick. Okay, wait. No, I got your job here. Making phone calls. Making calls. Doing shoot interviews and shit. Hold on one second. I got an interview real quick. Okay, wait. No, I got your job here.

You're good. All right. He's like an employment placement agency. I don't know. Switch. But at this time, Diamond Dallas Page was just a struggling manager. He wasn't even a wrestler yet at this point. Page started out really late in the game.

He was in his mid-30s when he started wrestling. Really? Which is unheard of uh at that for a guy who's not like a big giant guy or an ex-nfl player or something like goldberg was a little older but look at him you know what i mean ddp is not a guy you look at and go oh he's a star yeah you look at him and go oh throw him out of the strip club he's he's he's leering at the women so but ddp is one of these guys who he does everything right um he's so nice to everybody he helps people for no reason goes out of his way and i can't fucking stand him anyway i just can't

stand him i can't stand i feel like someone who's that positive is hiding something so dark you think so so dark there's gotta be right i i i can't make my brain like you said i can't make my brain be six seven two hundred fifty but i can't make my brain even get in a frame of mind where i'm that positive so if i see that i go oh what is he really thinking he wants to eat my internal organs if he's being this nice to me he must really want to do something terrible so anyway he comes in and uh he comes in this time scott hall as the diamond stud that is his name now not scott hall uh they have a stable of wrestlers that diamond dallas page has and they call i think it's a diamond exchange or some shit whatever so he brings in the diamond stud so many puns but he convinces him to page is really smart with shit diamond dallas page he's a

lot of guys really help them with their gimmicks and shit hey why don't you do this and it would be a little thing that would make it huge yeah he told him why don't you dye your hair black so dye your hair fucking jet black no he was the guy to dye your hair jet black and and slick it he goes you'll look completely fucking different no you telling me he doesn't have black hair? Fuck no. What? He's got brown hair. He's got brown, just like light brown hair.

Okay. And at that point before that, he had had like a lot of blonde in it too. Okay. So he was always like a light brown with blonde in it after a while and a big mustache. So he said, shave the mustache, dye your hair jet black and slick it. Get rid of that perm. Brilliant. No one will know who the fuck you are. And then they one night this is what diamond dallas page said if you know

anything about razor ramon with the toothpick he's always got the toothpick and flicks it at the camera and all that he said one night they were at a diner and they had toothpicks and diamond dallas page said hey let's wear let's have the toothpicks in our mouth when we go out to the ring and it'll be you know we can flick them or whatever and i guess he dropped his uh on the way out there it fell out of his hand or his mouth and scott hall had his whatever. And I guess he dropped his on the way out there. It fell out of his hand or his mouth, and Scott Hall had his, and he got there, and he flicked it at the camera, and he kept it for the rest of his career.

The toothpick gimmick was his gimmick for the rest of his fucking career. After a diner. Picking waffles out of his face. Yeah, that's all it was. And that's his idea. DDP was like, why don't we do this? And that's what I mean. Little things.

Dye your hair black. Do that. Rest of his career. Toothpick, hair dyed black. Brilliant. Smart, smart guy here. So they tried to give him a good little push out of the gate here because he was new. And he was fucking jacked.

And he looked cool with the black hair and all this shit. And they gave him like these, this is when you start to see the style of like the Razor Ramon too. Like he wore a vest and a certain cut of tights right that you saw like you can see like his boots and his knee pads look similar and you're like okay that's i see it coming together as that look basically uh they had him beat up uh tom zank when he came in uh which was a cross-eyed looking guy who women thought was attractive for some reason he was terrible awful uh he also beat up tommy rich who was another guy who proved that you don't have to be handsome to have women like you uh because he was a sex

symbol in the early 80s and he looked terrible he just looked awful so uh but he in the beginning they were really going with him but then he kind of just faded out and they didn't they stopped they stopped pushing him and uh eventually he was getting beat all the time. He was in the Chamber of Horrors match at Halloween Havoc, which was one of the worst matches that's ever existed. It's a match that was in a steel cage. They had a big electric chair in the middle of the ring. What? Big electric chair.

Whose idea was this shit? Off to the side. This is WCW early 90s, baby. This is awful. An electric chair. Off to the side, there's a big switch. Like a big candle that you switch. Like an old-fashioned lever to turn it on.

And the point is, you're supposed to... The Addams Family that went and did the Pugsley. Yeah, you're supposed to turn, beat up your opponent and finally get someone so beat up that you strap them into this electric chair and then one other guy, somebody else on your team hits the switch and you electrocute the guy. And that's the end of the match. You win. okay uh it was the stupidest fucking thing ever and the switch broke

and fell down so they had to when the guy actually acted like he was turning it he had to go up and like put it back into place and then act like he was turning it down it caught on fire because there's supposed to be a fire effect it caught on fire before the match even started so as they were like doing intros guys were going up trying to extinguish the fucking fire that it's it was a fucking disaster it's amazing a complete goddamn disaster and then a guy abdul the butcher had to act like he was being electrocuted which was sad guy it was so sad so fucking sad anyway he was in this match it was but a lot of guys were cactus jack mcfoley steiner brothers were in this

vader van vader was in this so i mean a lot of guys in this match it wasn't it's a great idea in theory the execution was poor i would say very very very poor uh so uh 92 he continues to flounder in wcw uh doesn't really do much he's with paulie dangerously paul hayman who had ecw forever there he's with theirs little stable for a while but that doesn't work out and uh when he signed this is what he says when he signed with wcw he went on tv with the new look yeah the black hair and all that and he said he got a call from pat patterson who was vince vince mcmahon's kind of number two at the time and pat said vince loves your new look yeah he said he loves your new look did you sign a contract with them yet so he wanted to bring him in yeah and scott said yeah i mean i signed a one-year contract he said i don't want to fucking work here i'd rather work for you guys

right and they said well when your contract is up don't worry about it you keep this together he loves your look we got you when your contract is up you're going to come here or whatever so he said once his contract was up he had to call up there and whatever and he ended up being brought in and uh he gets brought in and kurt hennig was there and kurt hennig had been there for years at this point and was all was injured at the time and he was like what scott hall called called the liaison between the office and the talent, like Vince McMahon and the wrestlers. He kind of told guys what Vince liked, and he kind of helped out, basically.

And he brought Scott Hall in, because they were ex-tag team partners, and said, look, do this, do that. And basically, he was fucking around. Scott Hall was fucking around doing Tony Montana, doing the imitation of Tony Montana. Yeah. They had just watched Scarface or something. And he was going back and forth going, say hello to my little friend and all this type

of shit. And apparently they get in front of Vince McMahon and Vince McMahon had never seen Scarface. Oh God. So he sits down and he starts doing this shit in front of Vince McMahon and Vince McMahon thinks he's a fucking brilliant genius. He's like, oh my God, that's amazing. oh god so he sits down and he starts doing this shit in front of vince mcmahon and vince mcmahon thinks he's a fucking brilliant genius he's like oh my that's amazing and he's like say hello to my little friend he's like oh my god say hello to the bad guy and he's like oh oh oh let's get a camera crew together and he's like say your wife's a junkie that's brilliant it's just scarface yeah

it's all it was so it's fucking funny so they just they didn't know that it was he was just imitating a movie and they didn't give a shit they just thought it was great so they saw him as this big big jacked up slick haired cuban so they had him be a cuban no he goes on for the next few years impersonating an ethnicity and it's fucking hilarious holy shit what year is this 92 wow 92 they did venues this is not like that far ago no no they did videos and these these videos of him fucking these promo videos of him like walking in miami like with like a shitload of gold chains on he's got like a curl in the front. Yes, I remember the curl. He's like, I'm coming to the WWF.

And he's doing all this shit. Say hello to the bad guy. He's acting like he's a fucking Cuban drug dealer. And he is white as fuck. And he's a fucking white army brat who shot a guy at an Orlando strip club. He is not this cat at all. But he's got to pretend he is, and they think it's great.

A white kid from Maryland. From Maryland, yeah. This is not... Who spent time in Germany. He's the farthest thing from this possible. But Vince McMahon loved it, and apparently, especially back then in the WWF, if Vince McMahon got behind your shit,

it was going to the top because he's going to make sure it does because he likes it. So Vince McMahon took him down, filmed all these vignettes, and he's paving the road with gold for you because you can't buy that kind of promotion. So he's just putting you out there and all this shit. Yeah, he ends up beating the shit out of everybody he encounters

when they put him in the ring finally. He has his finishing move, which he used in WCW, too, which was the razor's edge. It was the diamond drop or something in the beginning and then later. He'd spin him and fucking bring him down. Get him up on your back. Didn't he like... And it got him in a crucifix, like they're back to back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then drop forward. I was thinking it was up on the top and then you spin them and slam them down no no that was between your legs no that's like a power bomb kevin nash did a power bomb that's who i'm looking at he didn't spin kevin nash did the like got him in a pile driver picked him up and then you've got me thinking of giant dudes now and i don't see him as a giant dude that That's what I mean. I just don't see it. That's so weird. That's fucking crazy. That's the kind of the good... It makes him very marketable in terms of he can fight anybody. Because when he does fight a big guy, he can stand tall and look like a big guy.

And he can fight a big guy. When he fights Shawn Michaels, who's not a huge guy, he can get down and not look like too huge of a guy. He was always crouching like that. Yeah. He would fight different styles for different guys he was always crouching like that yeah he he he would fight different styles for different guys scott hall was good like that he was he's good in the ring there's no doubting that he is i mean we've joked and laughed about uh laughed at him and shit like that but honestly he was good at what he did he was a really good talker for whatever

his gimmick was he could do the right things he was a he was a good presence in the ring he he did everything well and for a big guy he did everything really pretty well for a guy that size and he could wrestle with big guys small guys he was the type of guy too that when he was a good guy if you're a lot of times if you're a good guy it's hard when you lose you just look like shit yeah and the fans don't like he could lose and they didn't care he was like a jake the snake where he didn't need to win matches they'd still get behind him and chant his name even if he lost which is not that there's a certain special thing there that when promoters see that that's a guy they can keep forever sure because you can do different things with them you can make him whatever you need him to be basically uh so he does all these vignettes uh he does everything like that he has all of his

gold chains and all that type of shit here which is fucking amazing i love how much cultural appropriation went on oh god are you kidding me this fucking movement of oh and stop it well wrestling is the most culturally appropriate they would take the epitome italian guys are chief j strong bows an indian a fucking Italian guy from Philadelphia. I mean, it's ridiculous. Johnny B. Bad, they pretended he was black. They had a white guy that they just had a tan on him, and they were like, well, just pretend he's like Little Richard.

He looks like a black guy to me. Did you ever see him? No. Mark Marrow in the WWF, remember him? They said he was a black guy in WCW. Jimmy, he came out with his hair all up. They had him and he had a thin little mustache. They had him looking exactly like Little Richard.

He's just a Jew with a tan. I think he's an Italian guy. He just had a tan and they said that he would come out and go, woo, and do all that and strut around. And they had him like Little Richard music playing when he came in. Ridiculous. They just pretended he was black. I was like, that is not a black man.'re not allowed to do there are plenty of black people in

this country you're you're especially that place their company's based in georgia you can't fucking go outside there's a million black people fucking pick one of them and make them that guy don't fucking get a white guy and go you're a black guy now go out there and pretend to be black that's ridiculous but that's what they would do. But he got involved in some shit for as far as, because I mean, at this point in the AWA, he kind of got some success, but the last few years,

he hasn't really done that much. Right away, he's in a program that involves Ric Flair and Randy Savage. Really? Yeah, Macho Man and Ric Flair going for the title, and he's right involved. He ends up being Flair's tag team partner. How about that? Yeah, it's a macho man and Ric Flair going for the title. And he's right involved. He ends up being he ends up being Flair's tag team partner. How about that?

Yeah, it's pretty crazy, which is also funny because he hated Ric Flair because they didn't get along because of, you know, Flair was on the booking committee that kept him down. And it's just like comedy. He worked at that club and he told the booker not to book me because I didn't. You know, it's just like comedy. Just like comedy. So dumb. I hate people that never mind. Yeah like comedy. It's so dumb. I hate people that, never mind.

Yeah. It's so sick. I imagine comedy is very similar to that, too. What kind of person does that? And how do you figure that makes you look if you're holding somebody else back? Yeah. And nobody can do that anyway. I mean, no.

I mean, in wrestling, some of the guys. Yeah. So if they had like a guy like rick flair if he was on the booking committee and he didn't like you he could hold you back also if you book enough shit on my hotel room i might tell somebody that's the other thing too you never know when you piss somebody off for this or that or you did something shitty to that who knows who's mad at you it's it's silly so another part is i don't talk to any club promoters or bookers about anybody but you and if i tell them not to book you they don't talk to any club promoters or bookers about anybody but you.

And if I tell them not to book you, they don't book me. Yeah, that's what I mean. We kind of go together. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I don't care about anybody else. I don't talk about anybody else. That's it.

If you ask me if I think someone's funny, I'll tell you. I'll probably go, yeah, he's okay. Even if I don't like them. If you run a club. I'm not going to fucking talk shit about somebody. Why would anybody do that? I have no clue. So once in the WWF at the time,

he becomes a huge star. This is when he blows the fuck up because they put a lot behind him. And if Vince McMahon wants to make you famous, he'll make you famous. And especially if you have any talent, because there's a lot of guys that he's tried with and it just didn't quite work because they sucked.

Scott Hall is actually talented. So if you put shit behind him, it works out. This is when he really kind of embraces the lifestyle, we'll say also. Let's let him tell you about it here. In the 90s, this is kind of what he said here. He said, quote, I always wanted to be a main eventer in pro wrestling. I lived my dream, but the excesses of the 80s and the huge here in the 90s this is kind of what he said here he said quote i always wanted to be a main eventer in pro wrestling i lived my dream but the excesses of the 80s and the huge money of the 90s became a great temptation for many of us after working in a main event on the advice of one of my peers i took downers xanax was my drug of choice before i stopped sweating

and got into the showers then i'd have a few beers on the drive to the hotel and then hit the rack to make that 6 a.m flights some nights we wouldn't go to the hotel and then hit the rack to make that 6 a.m. flights. Some nights we wouldn't go to bed at all and hit the hotel bar and then hit a diner, eat, and then go to the airport and sleep on the plane. So that's the lifestyle they're living. Say the part about the Xanax again. Oh, they take Xanax after to come down after the match. All right. He also, this is one that he, this is a crazy quote from this documentary that we saw here uh it's uh he says quote i have literally have shared hotel rooms with sean michaels

on more than one occasion we lay there and i go hey sean is your heart still beating and he responds sean would respond wait a minute yeah and then he would say okay here take half of this then and you give him another pill because that's how they were just pushing the fucking envelope you still alive okay well then let's take more drugs what the what kind of thought process is that they were first of all the stories from this period of their especially sean michaels but all of their alcohol and drug excesses are fucking out they're amazing sean michaels used to just take so many somas he'd fucking pass out his food and diners and shit like that and they'd have to carry him out like a big fucking guy to be carrying out yeah they carry guys it happened to all of them they were all like that i have some stories about scott hall later about him being in no condition to do anything yeah and uh it's a mess but they

said at this point the drug testing in wwe was so stringent yeah for because this was when the steroid the fbi was coming down on vince mcm McMahon for steroids, and he was up to go to trial and all that shit. So the steroid testing and they tested hardcore for, like, street drugs, like weed. Weed was out. They would test you and you'd get fucking busted in a heartbeat. Why would you want to do that anyway? You're wrestling. Well, I would think to free your injuries would help, you know, rather than painkillers.

But they couldn't because a lot of times they would smoke weed, a lot of the guys. And then it turned into painkillers. They couldn't smoke weed anymore. So they're doing painkillers. And they said all you could do was painkillers and booze. Those are the only things that you could not fail your drug test for. Wow. So they do tons of painkillers and tons of booze just to push it.

They'd go, I don't know what this is. Well, we'll take two and see what happens. the to push it they'd go i don't know what this is well we'll take two and see what happens like shit pills like that like i don't know i guess i'll take two and we'll find out xanax is the is the fucking gatorade of wrestling is that what that is everything somas were really the one somas is that somas are the gatorade of wrestling that's really just a study they all were living on somas muscle relaxers well yeah it was make them feel better and then also you take that with booze and that's quite a buzz you're probably pretty well cramped up after a wrestling match too everything i would assume it just makes your body feel loose and good rather

than beat up and shitty and then you mix that with booze and feel no pain for a while and then i hate all fucking pills like that they make me feel awful no fun for me i hate even when a doctor prescribes no i won't i won't i hope to let you feel what that's like one day oh fuck man yeah no shit yeah one someday a doctor will prescribe me something it's been a long time since i've been prescribed anything when they prescribe an actual doctor anyway when they prescribe me anything other than antibiotics i hate it because i hate taking those things i hate the way all those pills you're gonna get a ton of conspiracy theorists tweeting at you going don't take the antibiotics either because they're yes we know and jim henson died from strep throat so

there's a balance here everybody calm down so night steve jobs died because he ate cashews instead of instead of taking cancer medication it happens, it happens. It's ridiculous. So 1993 is WrestleMania IX, which is one of the worst WrestleManias ever. It was outdoors in Vegas, and it looked like shit. Who was it? Well, the main event. It was a convoluted mess. There was a double main event. The first one was Hulk Hogan and Brutus Beefcake versus Million Dollar Man, Ted DiBiase, and IRS for the tag titles.

And that broke up into just a disqualification schmoz. And then the main event was Bret Hart versus Yokozuna, where Bret Hart beat Yokozuna, but in a shitty way after Fuji threw salt in his eyes or something. So then Hulk Hogan came out to defend Bret's honor. Oh, Christ. And Mr. Fuji challenged Hulk Hogan right now in the ring. You think you're so tough you get in here.

And Hulk Hogan went in and did a clothesline and a leg drop and won the title. Even though that was the last thing he ever did in WWF. And then he was in WCW after that. But they tried one more time with him. And it didn't quite work. And WCW was the NWO stuff, right? Yeah, we'll talk about that. Quick thing here, because we won't talk much about the WWF shit,

because it's very famous, and if you saw it, you saw it. If not, what do you care? So the other stuff was just more funny. They did a little angle here with Sean Waltman, who was the 1-2-3 kid at the time, who was later 6-Pac and X-Pac and all those different Pacs. Sean Waltman here, and he becomes part of their little clique. They end up with what they call the clique, basically backstage little group uh that kind of kind of uh has a lot of

influence over things it's a bunch of stars and that's Kevin Nash Scott Hall Shawn Michaels Shawn Waltman's kind of the trail behind uh you know young guy and then Hunter Hearst Helmsley Triple H when he comes in too all the handsome folks yeah they well they they're we're the best guys and we think we're the best and so they kind of grouped up together and uh yeah so they do an angle with uh one two three kid where they have the one two three kid beat scott hall uh on monday nitro or monday uh monday night raw they do a you know just a weird little fluke win a little roll up a little quick win where this guy was tiny when at the time fast at the yeah and at the time he probably weighed 140 pounds and he was and scott hall was twice his

size it looked like a guy beating up his child it was like oh that poor little boy and uh they had him beat him which made this is when scott hall was a bad guy razor ramon so he was all pissed off and he wanted to fucking kill him and this was the big angle that somehow turned him into a good guy turn razor ramon into a good guy uh by 94 he uh he has a big wrestlemania 10 he has a ladder match with sean michaels just kind of the most fame like the first real famous ladder match in the u.s kind of and uh where have you ever seen this match i've heard of them i've seen them on wrestling games but i've never seen it's pretty. It's a big folding ladder in the middle of the ring. It's a big fucking 12-foot ladder in the ring. There's a belt suspended from this thing,

and they have to put the ladder there and climb it and get the belt. And over the course of this, they beat each other with the ladder. They fall off the fucking ladder. It's pretty dangerous shit. Sure. And they have an amazing match at WrestleMania X

with this ladder. It's really awesome. Holds up to this day. March 27th 1995 he has a daughter or his wife does but dana has a daughter but he's involved yeah uh name name of cassidy there uh may 1996 now this is when he's about to leave wwf uh he's getting tight he wants more money he says he's been there for three four years he's always been a big star and his money's not going up anymore and And he just wonders why.

So I saw an interview with him where he talks about it. He said he went to Vince McMahon, and he said, hey, you know, and he said the way I did it was, what can I do to improve? What can I do to improve? Can I do something better in the ring? Can I do something better on the mic? Clearly it's something on me because I keep getting the same money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what he said.

Like, my money's not going up. And, you know, he said, so what can I do to improve? Can I do more? What can I do to help the company more that'll make me more money? And Vince McMahon told him, you're doing everything right. You're doing everything great.

There's nothing you can improve on. Just keep doing what you're doing. And he said, well, the problem is, I'd love to do that, but my money's not going up. And that's why I'm saying this. I can do extra and make the same and then take it into consideration later.

Yeah, well, Vince told him just, you're fine. And he was like fine and he was like no no i'm asking you this not because i'm worried about how you feel about me i'm worried about my money not going up and it hasn't gone up i'm asking if there's any way to improve it and he said no basically and so scott hall's idea was well tell you what our merchandise this is what scott said he said my merchandise he goes you know you little decimal he goes you move that decimal over one spot on my merchandise money he goes you won't that won't bar you won't know this i'm happy he said it won't affect the mcmahon family very much but the hall family will notice a lot brilliant and he's been said nope i can't do that you got the standard contract that everybody else has

you got the one the undertaker has and it's the same one that sean michaels has nobody makes anymore because he didn't want to set a hogan precedent yeah because he had hogan had just left and he was the guy that hogan got whatever he wanted yeah because he was a bigger star than anybody so he wanted to make this is when he was like no no no rather than hulk hogan be the draw we need wwf on the marquee to be the draw god and whoever's here is just coming you know whoever wants to watch they just want to see the wrestling. They don't want to see a guy. Right.

So he won't let anybody do that. So he says, fuck. So he ends up giving his notice, which is, I guess, before your contract's up, you have to tell them 90 days ahead of time or else it would roll over to the next year. Yuck. I know those things. Yeah. So he had to give it in writing.

So he gave his notice in writing to not roll over the contract because then he wanted to renegotiate or go somewhere else. Right. Free agency. Free agency. What they did was they told him that he flunked the drug test. And this is what they do. Shawn Michaels said the same thing. If they were mad at you, they'd call you in and go, yeah, you flunked the drug test, so you're suspended.

So now you can't wrestle for two weeks and you don't get paid. So it's basically just that was their way of slapping you back down and saying you're not that powerful. I can take you off the air in two seconds because you failed the drug test. And he's like, you know, I didn't do anything different. So basically either he was failing drug tests and they didn't care about it or he, you know, didn't fail the drug test and they just said that the fucking got him one of the two basically so it all ends up uh happening he ends up making a deal to go to wcw who had signed hogan two years before that and was really trying

to challenge wwf as the number one show and uh on the monday night deal so uh he ends up signing with wcw signs a big deal where he works less days a year and makes more money oh my man he makes twice the money works half the days so how do you not do that deal yeah and uh yeah i think he says i think it's in the range of about 700 grand a year at this point i like in 96 my man which is not too shabby the deal he's excited it's guaranteed money to the wwf didn't have guaranteed money so if you were hurt and didn't work for two months they'd pay you a little bit of your downside guarantee but you weren't making big money right you were fucked basically unless you

could work whereas here you broke your neck you're still getting paid beautiful so it's a good thing for him uh so he ends up going there uh they do a big thing when he leaves wwf where they basically do what they call the curtain call where the four guys there triple h and sean michaels and uh nash and hall who were enemies in wrestling uh did a big thing where they all hugged each other and like did a big bow and all that shit together which that pissed off the office really badly really because they're like hey you guys are supposed to not like each other right like the fans don't know so whatever that you're real people yeah probably barbecue with your families on the weekend so they punished triple h for it really he he was the last guy he's

the only guy who probably it wasn't his idea he's the newest guy everybody else said this is what we're doing but he was the guy that they could punish. Michaels was the champ, couldn't punish him. Hall was gone, couldn't punish him, and Nash was leaving the next week, so you couldn't punish him.

But Triple H got the last laugh. Didn't he fuck Stephanie McMahon? He's married to Stephanie McMahon and currently is in charge of a lot of WWE, so yeah, he ended up getting the last laugh there.

That curtain call worked out it worked out just fine for him but at the time it looked like he really fucked his stock like he was supposed to win king of the ring that year and because of that they punished him and didn't let him win it and that is what let stone cold steve austin win that and and do that 316 promo on jake roberts and make him a giant star how about about that? So this is all. Thank you. Everything is intertwined. Thank you, Scott Hall, for leaving. Yeah.

Got the ball rolling here. So he goes to WCW and they do a very smart thing with him. Normally, wrestling companies are so excited they got a new guy. They just bring him down the aisle and like, here he is, can brings him out. And then he's just another guy. They did something smart here where they brought him. There was a match going on in the ring uh fight going on in the ring and they brought he walked through the crowd no announcement no not in the middle of the match he walked through the crowd hopped over the guardrail climbed up in the ring and the wrestlers just stopped wrestling like

what the fuck is going on why is he here but they know who he is they're all everybody knows and everyone all the wrestling fans know who the fuck he is he's fucking razor ramon obviously but he's in one of the most 90s outfits ever he's wearing like high-waisted jeans with a fanny pack yeah a denim vest just full 90s with his mullet and everything and he gets in the ring grabs the mic and says fucking you know starts talking shit about wcw you guys are are punks you know why i'm here we're gonna take over this place and blah blah blah blah got a big surprise for you next week and so it's like everyone's like what the fuck is that all about like no one knew what happened then i think two weeks later kevin nash came in as his big surprise oh boy and so they became kind of like this force they were all scared they would rough up the announcers and shit you know and

rough up all the good guy wrestlers and even the bad guy wrestlers it was wcw guys good and bad and then these two guys and then they do a big uh a big uh angle here at the bash at the beach where uh they end up bringing hogan in yeah and hogan is a bad guy now after all they flip hogan from a good guy to a bad guy i thought you were saying they gang raped him at the beach they gang raped him right on the beach um they eiffel towered him uh it was it was pretty impressive they held their high five in the middle for a long time that's what really that's what made it impressive is they really joined forces time that's what really that's what made it impressive is they really joined forces to give hogan a good front and back so i wish that happened that would be amazing so that's really

bad depiction so they bring anyway hogan becomes a bad guy nwo becomes the biggest thing in the world yeah they're the big and they were too i mean they blew up wcw everybody knows what that that little n big w yeah everybody knows that there's all sorts of different things that imitate that too where you'll see three any three letter thing will have the big letter in the middle of the two letters that's all nwo imitations there's it's still still you still see people in nwo shirts yeah it's fucking weird it was a great time to watch wrestling it was it was on both channels uh two it felt like the and now knowing this part i didn't realize this much but the wrestlers they were in charge of it that's all that's what they felt anyway yeah and it showed they had a lot of ownership on it yeah they were they they did they

weren't just given a script and said do this they were like here's what we're going to do and the wrestlers would say maybe we could do this well i were like, here's what we're going to do. And the wrestlers would say, maybe we could do this. Well, I can do that. Okay, well, what if we do that and this? Give them creativity and it blows up and it's fun. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. And this was a lot of fun.

And the NWO would come in and they'd do run-ins and beat the shit out of people. And they'd always win and then cheat. And they'd have a crooked referee on their side. The video games were the best ones. They actually were. They were so fun. Those were the best wrestling games. Those were actually the...

A blast. The NWOWCW game, I think, on PlayStation was really fucking good. I had it on Sega Genesis and then Nintendo 64. I know which one you're talking about, too. So fun. That's known as one of the best wrestling games ever. Yeah, it's known as really good. Let's just say it now.

Grace. This is Grace. This is Grace, my friends. Yeah, definitely. That is May 96 This is Grace, my friends. Yeah, definitely. That is May 96th, if that's all going on. June 3rd, 96. This is a week after he comes into WCW. WWF lawyers send a letter to Scott Hall

informing him that he's infringing on WWF's intellectual property by portraying Razor Ramon and that they will withhold all future payments, his back merchandise and pay-per-view checks from WWF until the matter is settled.

Wow. They said, Dear Mr. Hall, I have the letter here. Oh, boy. This letter will serve to put you on notice of your deliberate infringement

of Titan's intellectual property rights in connection with your appearance on this past Monday, WCW's Nitro Show. Having reviewed the tape of your appearance, the text of the various statements made by you during your appearance, and the explicit references to past and ongoing storylines of Titan Sports, it's obvious that you were attempting by your appearance to suggest to the consuming public that you and others for the WWF were now going to be appearing on

Turner Networks as part of some interpromotional matches. That's what they're suing him. They're suing him saying that he dressed like Razor Ramon. They said you dressed like Razor Ramon and utilized the Hispanic accent given to you by Titan as a part of the character portrayal. Okay. Now, they own the character Razor Ramon.

He didn't come out saying he was anybody. The announcers didn't say his name. They didn't say anything about him. And they did that on purpose because they didn't know what to call him got it uh but he came out not in the like yellow or purple razor ramon gear he came out in jeans and shit but he came out doing the accent he came out hey yo he came out doing that and he goes the bad guy is here and he was doing all that horse shit so they were saying you can't do that. So they said... Let's talk to Al Pacino.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Let's ask somebody else. What is Al? He's the one who did it first. They said that they have no objections to you portraying a new or different character devised by either you or WCW,

but basically threatened, threatened, threatened. So then the next month, they file a lawsuit against Turner for this whole thing about Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, quote, invading WCW. And there's four counts of it. And I'll just tell you what. I won't read them to you because it's the same shit. They basically say that they ended up having to apologize on the air saying that they weren't saying that wwf wrestlers are fighting in

our thing now that's not what they were saying his name is scott hall yeah he can be they just they had no anything from him okay so they didn't call nash anything either and then they ended up eventually calling them nash and hall and they called them the outsiders and that's what they ended up deciding on and they could call them kevin nash and scott hall because those are the fucking names yeah and they never used that as anything else uh they tried to say the toothpick thing they own too but then there's footage of him on wcw before he went there flicking the fucking beautiful so they couldn't couldn't say that but uh they did and even to his tights they were the same style he wore the vest he just changed out the colors to like red and put you know yeah it was very similar put nwo on it but that was kind of his look when he came into

wwf it was the diamond stud updated kind of thing so anyway uh yeah they ended up suing they said that the uh lawyers are are going to make arguments in front of a judge uh wcw argued that in the past few years 41 wrestlers have jumped from one wrestler one promotion to another and in 28 of those cases they showed up at the other promotion using the same persona as uh before and no lawsuit was ever filed but it's because scott hall is a big fucking deal it's also because razor ramon for merchandising purposes by the early 90s they had locked those when you came into wwf they wanted to give you a new persona that they could license and control and own uh rather than you coming in

like junkyard dog was junkyard dog before he came in yeah so he was junkyard dog when he left because they couldn't own it hulk hogan was hulk hogan when he got there right randy savage randy savage when he got jake the snake same shit like they had no control over those guys and they hated that oh i'm sure like that's why they you saw brutus beefcake appear as like 45 different guys in the 90s on wcw because they own brutus beefcake wwf and he didn't couldn't they did that shit to the rock too where they they wouldn't let him be in movies as the rock he has to he has to go by uh actually you know what he may have won his lawsuit i did they sued him really absolutely i didn't try to keep them from using the using the name that seems odd because that would be promotion for them you'd think so right yeah but even in movies they didn't want him using the name

the rock that's weird because mcmahon's a cunt just just just to be difficult i don't fuck well vince here in the silverest statement ever uh he says that he regrets filing the lawsuit obviously regretted it at the time but he said quote i have finally been pushed up against a wall and with no other options to protect my company my wife and i have committed our adult lives to building the world wrestling federation now put those overalls on and take your shirt off god damn it like that's an odd legal document the god damn it really puts it over god damn it really does so uh yeah hogan comes in and there's a big deal there nitro is the it's huge the nwo is the biggest fucking angle of you know a 20-year period in wrestling it was so much it's giant it's a giant thing and then it turns into a complete pile of shit really well they Well, they brought in all the B guys. They brought in all these leftover shithead guys, watered it down, made it shit.

Yeah, there was half the guy. Then they broke into different segments. They had the Wolfpack, the red guys. Then they had the LWO. It got silly. When it was three guys that were badasses, it was pretty cool. And then it got stupid. Well, it was shortly after they brought in Sting, right?

Because Sting had been there the whole time. Had he? Yeah, Sting did the whole thing where he had the blonde, spiky hair. No, Goldust, he left WWF right after he was supposed to have a feud with Goldust, but he didn't want to do the feud with Goldust because Goldust is like a gay character,

borderline gay, and he said Scott Hall didn't want to do that angle. He's not very LGBTQq friendly we'll just say some statements later on either also not real friendly so he wouldn't wrestle that guy but gold dust came to the nwo too didn't no no no no they brought in six they brought in uh sean waltman and they brought in uh then they db assi was there db assi stick around that long he wasn't wrestling he was like he was like their manager. I'm the guy who paid to bring these guys in because I have so much money.

That character. They brought in Virgil, who was Dibiase's... The black guy that carried Dibiase's fucking suitcase or whatever. They brought in that guy. His assistant or whatever the fuck. Yeah, his bodyguard, they called him. They brought in Scott Norton, guys like that. Just these shitty guys.

They had a whole group of like B guys after a while. Guys that are just in like a speedo and then some knee pads. Yeah, they were just not Buff Bagwell, those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were just jerks.

Completely replaceable. Yeah, all the guys, most of those NWO guys were very replaceable. This is the period when Sting went from having the blonde hair, all spiky, to looking like the crow and going up in the rafters. Starrcade was in 97. It was like the biggest pay-per-view at the time anybody ever had, Hogan and Sting.

It was a huge deal. I loved that guy. No, he was cool. It was awesome. It's a cool angle. So, 97, they had a little run-in with the Nasty Boys here. Remember the Nasty Boys? No. Okay, Nasty Boys. it's a cool angle yeah so uh 97 he had a little run-in with the nasty boys here remember the nasty boys uh no okay nasty boys they're like mohawks and uh toothless and big sloppy guys

they were fun i guess at the time but uh he had a little thing here where uh he hit uh jerry sags with a chair jerry sags had an injured neck and he was pissed off at him i guess in the next match sags took some fucking liberties with sc Scott Hall and was punching him for real. Hitting him with live rounds, as they call it, which isn't cool. And I guess this would turn into a big backstage kerfluffle. And the Nasty Boys eventually ended up leaving and suing WCW over it. Wow. So everybody sued WCW.

If you remember the Hardbody buddy harrison episode we always forget about him uh the hard buddy harrison episode he sued he was part of the lawsuits uh racial discrimination lawsuits once they everybody saw that they were just settling lawsuits yeah everybody sued them sure and just sued him big time but when you're when you're running uh pimps and hoes uh no no lawsuits yeah that's the thing yeah sit down sir sit down with your stable you and your stable weird yeah let's find out when you're not in jail for life we'll talk about it so uh may of 98 dana divorces scott oh no uh this is when scott's out of control he's drinking like a fish at this point. He has rehab stints.

Altogether, he has like 15 rehab stints. So we can't talk about all of them, but I know in 97, he has at least one 30-day stint in rehab. In 98, he has at least one stint in rehab. And you can see it. In 98, they do it. WCW does an angle

because Scott Hall's a real drunk in real life, and as we'll talk about, going to be getting in trouble and shit outside the ring for his alcohol. They just say, well, let's just make him a drunk as his character. So they would tell him to how drunk do you got? Yeah, they'd be like, just go with it. And they would tell him. Yeah, they tell him, quote, pretend to be drunk on your interviews to where he just get drunk and do interviews. He was just drinking the whole time and he could put it under his character.

And that was their way of hiding his drinking. What's disgusting? What's his rather than helping him? Do we know what his drink of choice is? What does he anything? OK. Tequila. I know he likes it.

But yeah, beer, booze, Spanish. Yeah, because he's Cuban. Remember, she divorces him, Dana. Dana says, quote, drugs, alcohol, and wrestling. He chose all of that over us. He gave us up. He gave his kids up. I would ask the kids to write their dad.

They needed a dad. They didn't need a wrestler. They never got one letter back. So this was a problem here. He was in a mess of a time he was such an alcoholic at this time well let's talk about it august of 1998 uh this is an arrest that happens here a this is in baton rouge louisiana a 56 year old woman tells police that she was waiting in her car outside of her hotel when she saw scott hall and rolled her window down to talk to him you know

because he's on television uh he apparently reached into the car grabbed her breast and tried to pull her hand to his dick oh my word so she apparently there was police in the close by she went and reported it to police yeah and hall was arrested in his hotel room and was uh later released uh but he was charged as we'll talk about it here. This is bad, too. He's been in rehab three times in the last year, and now he's groping women. What's worse, though, as a kid that wrote a letter to their father in 1996? Yeah.

What's worse, getting a letter back that's, like like drunken and meandering or none at all? I think you can rationalize the drunken meandering. Man, he's probably in the car. He's driving. He's so busy. He's a busy guy. He's on TV. He's a piece of paper with no lines and all the words start going down.

Yeah, you know, he was on a plane. They were taking off. You know how that goes. The angle gets weird. As a kid, you could rationalize that. But no letter, you got to go like they lost it in the mail the mailman's got it in for me fuck man i don't know which is worse but i'll tell you which it's definitely worse being a woman who just recognizes somebody and then has a handful of

hey how's it going that's way grabbed your tit it's aggressive that's way you were so shocked from the tit grab he pulled your hand to his crotch so man uh he's and w like we said then this was the time period too this is when everybody was dying yeah this is when the guys were dying in the jake the snake episode we did we i dropped into the timeline whenever anybody would die and it was the whole episode just constant this is the time brian pillman just died lou Luis Piccoli just fucking died. Other guys were about to die, obviously. They didn't know that.

But I mean, Kurt Henning would die. Davey Boy Smith would die. All these people would die. All over the place. They're all dying. And there doesn't seem to be... They just go, yeah, it's cool. Just drink and pretend you're drunk on the air

and keep drinking and do whatever you want. Bananas. So it's a fucking mess. They're just going to ignore this shit. And they they're making so much money they're like why rock the boat let's not make a big deal out of this yeah uh and another thing too at this point because of the divorce he's in a custody battle with dana and uh this isn't the type of charge that's really going to go well in a custody battle not just that she has the has the stark reality of being able to just prove right to a judge. Yeah, there you go.

There he is drunk and grabbing and pushing. Yeah, this is what alcohol has done. Forcing people to grab his dick while he grabs a tit. Well, if, Jesus Christ, if it doesn't get any worse, October, this is two months later, October 2nd, 1998, he's at the Diamond mine strip club oh my god in orlando yeah which sounds awful that sounds so dirty and scummy dollhouse jesus the diamond mine strip strip club he's belligerent and drunk yeah and uh for some unknown reason nobody knows why uh he got angry and keyed a limousine really bad outside like all the way down and fucked it all up some

limousine that was outside causing two thousand dollars worth of damage that's a lot and being arrested for it too they call the cops on him and he ends up getting picked up for that uh this is along the same time like i said there's a custody battle he's pretending quote unquote to be drunk on the air which he's really drunk on the air uh he's fucking, he's being a dick. Like, even when he's out there, you can tell he's like, he does, he says kind of behind the scenes shit, but like not that's advantageous to the angle. Like, at one point he yells at the giant.

He says, there's a giant, the big guy, the big show is late coming out. And he says, giant, that's your cue. So like, come on on let's go like like he's not even trying anymore basically because he just doesn't care uh when he wants to he puts it on though he can perform he's like will ferrell in blades of glory puking in the in the i don't never see i cannot stand will ferrell movies they drive me crazy there's a point in the movie where he's because he's a washed up figure skater and he's in like an escapade show and he's just like saying horrible things.

He's mic'd up. He's inside like a stupid fucking outfit and he's saying horrible things because he's drunk as shit. This is essentially what Scott Hall is doing right now. Show that giant, that's your fucking cue. He doesn't care. That's what it is. He doesn't care anymore.

your fucking cue he doesn't care yeah that's what it is yeah anymore uh there is a house show in baltimore here sky in october of 1998 october 5th this is three days after the keying a limousine incident here uh he jesus christ he cuts a promo he used to come out always in wcw and say you know hey yo and then he would go how many people he'd say it's time to do the survey so how many people are here to see wcw how many people are here to see the nwo and he'd do that every time and he'd go no matter what they say go another win for the good guys and he'd throw the fucking mic down oh god so he'd do that he'd always do a some kind of promo before his match and this one he says that after the show he's having a big party at his hotel and says to all the women to go to the front desk and ask for Scott Hall and quote for all the fags to ask for Kevin Nash. He said that over a microphone to a crowd of not very LGBTQ friendly is what I'm talking about.

Oh, my God. That's brilliant, though. Well, it's hilarious. Obviously, that's brilliant though well it's hilarious obviously it's awful but it's fucking i mean for crime and sports it's pretty pretty far for the car yeah it's kind of far for the course so but that's his idea of a joke to kevin nash to say that that is fantastic and in 98 that was borderline socially acceptable. Today, all you have to change it to is all the dudes ask for Kevin McBride. All the dudes. That's it.

That's all you got to do. It's implied. Just as funny. You know what? It's actually kind of more funny. It might be. I think it's more funny because you actually have to think about it for half a second. That's just gratuitous.

It is. You didn't need that. The whole idea with comedy is to connect somewhere without saying it without saying it and then look at the person like yeah yeah yeah see what i mean see what i did there so october 7th 98 two days later is a busy week uh dana writes an open letter dana starts writing social media uh if there's like groups on the internet uh fan group she goes in there and writes shit about scott uh to his friends she writes she's always writing people letters trying to help him always trying to get him help and shit like that she wrote a letter saying it was quote to anyone who cares

shit like that basically she ripped wcw for not putting him in rehab when he needs it even though he'd been to rehab three times in the last year uh but to keep letting him go out there and live his his fucking lifestyle and to be self-destructive and to just let them do it she called it deplorable disgusting and inexcusable she invented deplorable deplorable she said uh to let him perform while he's under the influence he has real addictions to drug and alcohol and, and they're exploiting it for profit and ratings, which was all fucking true. She begged that they would, you know, that they discontinue this controversial bullshit

and do all this. She said she's putting all of her problems in God's hands, and that Scott's a very sick man, and his addictions have destroyed his marriage and his children's future and their lives and all this shit. P.S. Kevin Nash is a fag. P.S. All the dudes go see Kevin Nash. Mic drop.

So November 22nd, 1998, the night before Thanksgiving 98, he is driving his Cadillac. 98 night before Thanksgiving 98. He is driving his Cadillac. He ends up being arrested because for DUI after this, because the witnesses alleged that he was driving on the wrong side of the road going westbound or an eastbound lane on Red Bug Road in Seminole County ended up being a three car accident where Hall fell. They think he fell asleep at the wheel and and he ended up flipping into a ditch. Jesus.

Driving his Cadillac. They observed two open and one unopened beer bottles in his car when he went to the hospital to question him. At the hospital, they said that he smelled of alcohol just on his breath. Hall told them that he didn't remember how the accident happened. He was released by the doctor to perform a sobriety test he agreed to that they asked him if he'd been drinking and he said no uh then he failed to field sobriety tests so they arrested him yeah they arrested him for dui and he was given two breathalyzer tests this is three and a half hours after the accident oh god so it's dissipated three and a

half hours a long time he blew a 0.27 holy shit do you know how much fucking alcohol that is that's a lot that's a lot it's more than three times illegal limit a wow b most people aren't walking around that drunk yeah you're you've taken a seat that is three and a half hours after he was driving he was probably that point four point oh that's like where john bonham died like you killed rock drummers with that level of alcohol my mother passed he wasn't as big as he was he'd be dead my mother went to a wedding and my mom doesn't drink heavy but she went to a wedding and was drinking screwdrivers all night she passed out and was puking in the bathroom two hours later they took her to the hospital because she was unresponsive yeah they got to the hospital uh

they tested her tested her blood they didn't breathalyze her yeah because she's fucking out of it yeah uh and she was a 0.42 or some shit like that that's damn and they didn't expect her to make that's that's like dead level banana this guy's out driving like that just cruising along in his cadillac he totals this year he totals six cadillacs he says six cadillacs in a year he totals that's expensive all drinking wow all drinking number two you go yeah expensive i can't keep this up now four more well it's fucking crazy uh then the police asked him for a urine sample to see what the fuck else was in him and he declined to give them a sample uh a uh now also one of his friends told police that he was depressed about personal matters and

had been drinking all night before the accident. Wow. So this is not great. Now this is just, things are, and he has later on, he talks about this and we'll do an in their own words on this. Let's let him say it. What do you say here? In their own words, quote, I tell my kids this. I can't tell you not to do not to drink and do drugs. They are fun.

It's fun. They work. But what sucks is when you want to quit and you can't. And pretty soon you alienate or hurt everyone around you. It's a family disease. Then you can't keep a promise to anybody. What sucks the most is when you can't even keep a promise to yourself. That's fun. That's the problem, though. They say this all the time. People do drugs because they work. That's why.

Yeah. If you're feeling shitty and you take drugs, you won't feel shitty anymore. Isn't that great? Hey, look at that. Solid. They figured it out. So that's the same reason dogs hump the couch, because it feels good. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know why it feels good, but they know it feels good. That's why people do it. So he's basically saying this is a family disease. And if you do it, it's going to get a hold of you. So be careful. It's going to ruin your family. It's going to ruin your family. Well, 1999, January 1999, Dana and Scott reunite after this divorce. March of 1999, Dana and Scott remarry.

Oh, holy shit. Remarry. That's unexpected. Is she drinking or did he quit? No. Well, let's see what she says about it. She says, quote, I remarried him because of my faith and knowing that God can work miracles and that's what we needed.

I was born again in 98. Oh, boy. That's when she started going off. And I didn't want a divorce. I've just been praying. I've been torn between reality and my faith in knowing that God can work miracles. The reality right now is that Scott Hall isn't going to change, but she's trying is what she says. And it doesn't last long, though, because then September 99, Scott files for divorce.

He's had enough of this. Jesus. Yeah. He's like, all right, enough already. You drive. You know what? I need a drink after all this Jesus shit. Let's go back to church they have wine shots i'm going to the diamond mine okay so january of 2000 though they get back together again yeah uh this is just back and

forth here uh now she demanded that her husband sign this uh paper stating that he must exhibit moral and christian behavior around the children uh you want to want me to read this to you what this is uh this he signs this january this is the contract he signed with his wife oh jesus quote the father agrees with and does acknowledge that the children are being raised by the mother in a christian home with christian instruction and values the father does agree to exhibit moral moral conduct and to provide a moral environment while in the presence of and during all contact with the children in support of what would be the best interest of the children.

It is further agreed that the father will not consume any unprescribed medication, illegal substances or alcohol within 24 hours of the contact time with the children. That sounds like, yeah, it's going to be not a fun time. So, yeah, he's like, ooh, that's wonderful. An addiction counselor that worked with Scott Hall wrote, in my estimation, the need for counseling has always been there based on my knowledge of the problems of Mrs. Hall and Scott Hall. Both seem to suffer from conditions that threaten a relationship with each other there based on my knowledge of the problems of mrs scott uh mrs hall and scott hall both seem

to suffer from conditions that threaten a relationship with each other and put the children at risk from knowing what is normal yeah yeah scott's dependency problem is certainly a major factor contributing to the family dysfunction as well as mrs hall's codependency condition which keeps her tied into this family problem now you're talking that's this is all yeah yeah reality here uh they're both a problem uh without treatment for both of these conditions the family will continue to suffer the kids will certainly be traumatized by these experiences uh yeah i would say so um yeah that's a it's a problem that's a great diagnosis that doctor really earned his education if a woman won't leave or a man or a woman or whoever if you won't leave your alcoholic spouse spouse you're probably codependent that's the fucking reason because you can't

disconnect yourself from that shit so you're part of it yeah you both need it you both have issues and you're you're consciously or subconsciously one way or another not that we're making excuses for him here this is just everybody's you're you're also contributing the children yeah remove them from that situation exactly And goddamn, remove yourself. Yeah. He's going to implode, and don't go down with him. No, absolutely. So at one point here, February 2000, still with WCW, he's leaving the U.S. for Germany.

He got on a plane, and they said he looked terrible, looked like he's been up for days drinking. Ended up getting sick on the plane. And the first night of the tour he was uh he was in no condition to perform they said he was a mess uh but anyway he went out anyway and he he did his match here and uh uh so he was apparently during the whole european tour it was said that he was barely functional every night uh but he still went out and wrestled uh he had incidents in bars they said every night where he was trying to fight people uh he threw a cake at his girlfriend at one point at a bar uh and supposed to come out of that yeah well that's

no she was wearing it rather than it wearing her so uh she said uh uh they when he went to he got home to go to the airport that they wouldn't let him off the plane because he had been such a disturbance on the plane. And we have another plane incident we'll talk about here. Good Christ. So they wouldn't let him get on the plane to come home. So he missed a Monday Nitro episode because he was stuck in Europe while everybody else came back. And he was supposed to be involved in an angle that got him and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he couldn't participate in it because he

was stuck in europe uh but uh he would still be he's still there though that's the thing he's still there uh problem is there's a lot of shit that goes on now like he says that uh kind of joking around he says that there's this angle in the ring where one of the office guys is going to be in there who's an ex-wrestler terry Taylor. He was the red rooster in WWF. I don't remember. Very embarrassing. He said that Scott Hall is supposed to be super embarrassing. The guy acted like a fucking rooster.

I do remember you talking about him. The most embarrassing gimmick ever. Because he was dressed as one, right? Yeah, he had like a red robe, but he had like a red spiky stripe in his hair. And he would like do his head like a chicken neck. Like he was a rooster. Like, do you think you're a rooster? I don't get it. As a child neck. It like he was a rooster. Like, do you think you're a rooster? I don't get as a child.

I was like, I don't understand. Does this man believe he's a rooster or what's happening now? Did he like get bit by a rooster? Some Spider-Man thing here? I have suspended disbelief to believe that this fight is real. But not that a man is half fucking rooster. But he's half rooster and fighting this other guy on television. I'd see if he was just a guy.

But a half rooster man, you can't find that and put it on television. I'd see if he was just a guy. Right. But a half rooster man? You can't find that and put it on television. Anyway, he says, Hall says, at this point, he's supposed to hit Jeff Jarrett with a guitar for an angle. And he says, well, I'm going to hit the office guy with the guitar instead. Not actually going to do it, joking around. But because WCW has been sued so much and they're so corporate, they fucking freak out. And they suspend the whole thing and don't do the angle because they're afraid he'll actually do it, which is fucking stupid. It was it was dumb. Anyway, so he's having he's he's having some problems here. And they're finally sick of him.

He's been in so much shit, so much uh uh turmoil with with alcohol painting the ass stuff yeah yeah he said uh he says later on that the european incident was it was what eventually gets him fired he says that his girlfriend uh the girlfriend he threw a cake at this is a problem not only did he throw a cake at his girlfriend, but that girlfriend happened to be the niece of TNT, the network the show was on, of the president of that company, Brad Siegel. Oh, Jesus. Happened to be, he was like the boss of WCW at that time,

happened to be her niece who he was hanging out with and going out with. He had cheated on her, and then they got in a big fight, so he threw a cake on her. And that fouled up his employment a little bit soured him with his employer there uh you're gonna date a rich and powerful man's relative you treat her especially if you work for that man yeah not if he works for

that guy this guy's directly responsible for your contract right it should probably be nice you don't fuck up your future earnings you dipshit instead he gets released he's released by wcw so he goes from being the hottest thing in the world to now they don't even fucking want him anymore uh april of 2000 scott and dana break up again no surprise there she found out about the cake girl yeah she well yeah a goddamn girlfriend over there now uh october this is this is weird here uh they get into some drama here in 2000 uh scott asked in october there's supposed to be uh a court hearing and scott on october 19th scott asked dana for another reconciliation before this dana told him she'd be willing to discuss it discuss it it Jesus Christ and they had a lunch meeting scheduled

and then it ended up getting cancelled and they made more plans on the 23rd to meet but Scott never showed up because he's probably drunk his lawyer, Scott's lawyer requested that they attend mediation sessions and Dana then he sued her

or filed something into the divorce court. And she is cited with two contempt of court charges for refusing Scott visitation because he's supposed to get visitation. But she thinks he's drunk and won't let him see the kids. It's a fucking mess. Family members. She brings in friends and family members that claim Hall had been drinking during visitation with his children on july 28th uh uh and uh ended up skidding off a road with them and nearly hitting a pole jesus so that's what she says he's got the kids in the car with him now well that's what she says yeah and she says quote where is the bottom

he has the gall to call me unfit and all that stuff and i don't even have a parking ticket it's ridiculous that he thinks he can do things like that and continue to hurt people who love him the most. Somebody needs to show him what the word denial means in the dictionary. Somebody needs to show both of you. Let's sit you down with a dictionary, both of you. We'll look at denial and alcoholic and codependent. We'll

all talk about it. Not just codependent, but clearly enabler because she's bringing him back around and giving him zero consequences for his shit behavior. She's codependent. She can't. So it's a mess.

They're both a mess. Him more, obviously. He's causing all of this. He just wasn't drinking. Everything would be fine. But his things are snowballing this. We're not meaning to blame her for his problems because these are clearly all his. But she sounds like an asshole.

But she's not. I don't even know if it's an asshole, but they're not a good combination. No. There you go. They're bad together. Yes. So in 2000, he ends up heading over to New Japan Wrestling, New Japan Pro Wrestling here. And he does some shit over there.

They do a kind of a Japanese NWO angle they have over there. Because they were at one point kind of in business with WCW and exported that over there. And long story. So anyway, he's pretty popular over there. Everybody liked him because he's... The Japanese fans, if you bring a famous American wrestler over there, they go batshit for it. Because it's like a... It's an island over there.

It's a small place. So when you bring things in from the outside, they get excited. It's like Australia. Hi, Australia. Yeah. Australia. People come there and they... Australia, they'll pay like oh

i bought a t-shirt for 20 it was 35 shipping but you know that's what you expect like it's i'm on a fucking island that's what you expect and you're right yeah that's how they live it people weren't complaining at all that shipping on t-shirts is so expensive like that's what it costs to ship something across the world sorry across oceans we get it yeah it's fine so october 26 2000 seminole county courthouse it's a custody hearing for the kids uh with dana obviously it's called by scott he's the one who who called this whole thing into action he's attending the visitation hearing and ends up being taken out in handcuffs after he discovered that he had violated a probation giving to him uh given to him for the arrest in October, the limousine incident.

So he had violated that. And he said at a recent hearing, though, he had agreed to Dana's request that he pay for counseling and pay for counseling for the children. And Dana will continue to pay for her own counseling. And he also said he would provide health insurance for the kids at that point. And the ruling decreed that the Halls had to meet in a neutral place when they exchanged the children and Scott also agreed not to drink or consume drugs

in front of the children and signed a written statement that there would be no further offenses and his visitation rights at that point were canceled until further review. So what a mess. November of 2000, he makes a few little appearances in ECW. And they're very dying days. That is the very end.

But he has no contract. He's just making one-off appearances there, trying to keep his name kind of in the mix. At this point, too, Kevin Nash is basically on television this whole time talking about Scott Hall. Kevin Nash is getting in trouble from WCW for talking about Scott Hall. Really?

Yeah, because he's saying, you know, Scott Hall needs to be here. Where's Scott Hall? And they're like, shut the fuck up. We fired Scott Hall. You know, don't talk about him. Stop stumping for him.

He kept doing it anyway. He did a little thing with him and Diamond Dallas Page where they were on TV going, we want Scott Hall back uh ddp jumped in the thing too uh so uh dana releases a statement yeah uh this is a long one and a rough one and uh i'll read it here she says quote it is a shame that these so-called friends of scott would persist in urging the fans to get scott to return it's only cruel of them to give the fans false hope and not to mention Scott. Obviously, these men do not know all the facts or understand the seriousness of his most recent arrest.

Obviously, they do not wish to acknowledge that Scott did not start drinking because he lost his job, but lost his job because of his addiction. He didn't start drinking after our divorce, but we divorced because of his addictions and infidelities. He didn't start drinking after our divorce, but we divorced because of his addictions and infidelities. They obviously do not understand or care that their friend and my husband, the father of our children, is on a very self-destructive path and is in need of help from his friends. Not urgings to return or even believe that he can return, which has contributed to further destroy his marriage, our family, and his life. And she goes on. She says, this is not what a friend does. These kinds of friends have done more damage than they've helped so yeah she's uh with friends like these with

friends like these are trying to get him his job now meanwhile he has no fucking job which is also an issue too yeah drunk or not you need gainful employment you need to fucking pay the mortgage you know what i'm saying so november 22nd 2000 uh this is uh uh this is the d y here uh he has there uh that we talked about uh now he ends up at this point uh being signed by wcw or by uh wwe at this point i think it's wwe now yeah they had changed no he was still wwf in 2000 okay um he had or 2002 when he comes in uh they bring him in to do a repackaged nwo with hog they bring in hulk hogan kevin nash scott hall they're like hey remember this from five years ago they bring that in uh third austin powers we get it we get yeah um they hall had a little feud with stone cold steve austin which

was a big deal uh they fought each other in wrestle Steve Austin, which was a big deal. They fought each other in WrestleMania 18, which is a big deal here. Austin won that match on March 25th. He was a big part of that show to go to Raw, Monday Night Raw. He's in WWF for a little while, and then he has a problem. There's this thing. It's known in the wrestling parlance here as the plane ride from hell, where a bunch of people lost their jobs because wrestlers went batshit on a chartered flight

coming home from a European tour. Awesome. Okay. We'll let the people who are there tell it here. A guy, Justin Credible, who's a wrestler who's been all over the place, he says, Vince at the time was chartering flights. We weren't on commercial flights. We'd rent the whole plane.

We had a 747, all ours, meaning not only all the wrestlers, but also the TV crew. He said, so we have every cameraman, all the girls that make the costumes, tour managers, everybody, a plane full of WWE people. Fuck. Now that comes, and I bet youince has not done it since with a full and open bar oh no and what i mean by that is a plane filled with alcoholic wrestlers at the end of a grueling tour so think about it it's like the last day of school now sean waltman here xpac he says quote it was brewing everybody had their different little deals that were they were doing

some people were doing ghb uh getting pilled up, you know, whatever. You could buy GHB in the health food store. It was legal, so that was the reason everybody was doing it. But it fucked you up, he says, ellipses in between each one. He said, events started out more or less, I guess, shit started out innocently.

I guess Kurt Henning and Scott Hall, old tech team partners there, they got a hold of some shaving cream canisters, and they were running around just fucking with people, squirting shaving cream at them and shit like that. Just kid shit, basically. They were running around in an airplane. An airplane, mind you. Now, I guess Kurt Henning and Brock Lesnar, who is famous for multiple reasons now. For all kinds of stuff.

They knew each other. They both were from Minnesota. They both knew each other. They both were from Minnesota. They both knew each other. They were hanging out there. And I guess they got restless and they started to do kind of amateur wrestling takedowns on each other.

On a plane? On a fucking airplane. What the fuck? One guy's 250, the other guy's 300 pounds on a fucking airplane. You can break a window with that kind of weight.

Yeah, so, yeah. Sean Waltman says, Kurt insisted that he was a better grappler than brock oh my god which is crazy because kurt was just good at a lot of shit and he thought he was good so waltman said uh kurt was always real competitive you know him and brock uh we all hung around out out because we lived in minnesota so just incredible says they weren't fighting at first but they were very competitive so they're just scrapping along like messing around then something happened where it got serious.

It didn't come to blows, but you know the opening they have on planes? Those openings are the emergency exit rows. Now, Brock's a wrestling shooter and Kurt's a shooter kind of too, so they took it seriously. They didn't want to give in to each other, so they went at it really hard. Lesnar shot in and drove

Henning so hard into the side that they almost popped open the emergency exit 25, 000 feet in the air people had to separate them yeah uh so sean fucking dicks you're about to leave the kill us all so sean waltman said obviously wwe made a big management uh big wwe management made a big deal out of it the fucking door it's impossible for it to open at that altitude so so it was real stupid. The flight before, Vince and Kurt Angle had a takedown tournament in the aisle. But as soon as it happened with Henning and Lesnar,

they made a big deal out of it. Then fucking Flair comes out in his robe. Okay. Justin Credible says, with nothing on underneath, which is Flair's move. He always did that at bars. Waltman says,

fucking balls naked strutting down the aisle way back to credible 60 year old man junk flying everywhere going up to stewardesses flashing his wide open robe and go come on sweetheart this is fucking these poor women trapped in this fucking plane these flight attendants jesus christ can you imagine nobody sued oh we'll get to that people sued the flight attendants taralin a whole louis ck oh yeah worse than that those were at least comedians this is a these are flight attendants if you're not that anyone should show you your dick but if you're signing up for comedy you know your life's gonna be hard

you know that that's gonna be flight attendant you expect people to be polite to you and you serve them a drink you don't expect the fucking wrestlers to whip their cocks out screaming woo gee that makes it worse uh the flight attendants tarolyn capilano and heidi doyle they compiled their allegations and put together a big lawsuit good for them uh they said that it was flair's sexual aggression they said he wore nothing but a jeweled cape which sounds worse than a robe he wore a jeweled cape and opened it up and said woo that sounds really like it's a real right after come on sweetheart come on sweetheart it sounds like it's like a whole thing that he put together with a jeweled cape and it's like a really it's almost honorable uh the flight attendant attendant said he quote flashed his nakedness, quote, spinning his penis around,

which is fucking amazing. The helicopter did it. Jesus. He separately grabbed each woman's hand and placed it on his crotch and then forcibly detained and restrained Doyle, Heidi Doyle, from leaving the back of the galley of the airplane while he sexually assaulted her. Flair denies this. Yeah, of course. But the WWE settled out of court with both women. leaving the back of the galley of the airplane while he sexually assaulted her uh and flair denies this yeah of course but the wwe settled out of court with both women so yeah uh and then

also that shit in that new flair documentary i wonder no it's odd right nothing's ever in these fluff pieces another lawsuit in this lawsuit they implicated that dustin rhodes who was gold dust dusty's kid there uh said to a flight attendant uh quote you and me are gonna fuck and then dustin took over the pa system oh my god and was singing a slurred serenade to his wife his ex-wife who was there uh terry runnels you might remember her and then uh yeah eventually jim ross had to come in and fucking shut all this shit down and go, okay, everybody stop. We got wrestling and all this shit. Wrestling, we got his dick out.

This guy's singing drunkenly over the PA. Apparently Scott Hall was out cold most of this flight. This didn't have a lot to hear. Even Jim Ross said that Hall wasn't one of the instigators or anything like that. But he had the shaving cream and all that sort of shit. that hall wasn't one of the instigators or anything like that uh but uh he this is uh this is uh he had the shaving cream and all that sort of shit uh but this that's all the wrestler said but the flight attendants have a different story in the lawsuits the uh doyle attendant said that uh hall slobbered on her face before telling her he wanted to quote lick her pussy

he then told capilano to, quote, suck his dick. Then he passed out. Said, I'm going to lick your pussy, suck my dick, and then passed out called. That is awesome. And they said people were checking his pulse to see if he was still alive. That's how deeply he was sleeping.

Even if she wanted it licked, he couldn't do it. No. Just Incredible said you had Scott Hall out of his mind, completely out of his mind, shimmying and shaking i had to babysit scott i had to stay straight because everyone else was so fucked up my god uh yeah so apparently uh they got to the to the airport at jfk and uh they had a wheelchair rolling him out he was non-responsive scott hall he just passed out in a giant guy in a wheelchair and uh yeah this was a it was a mess. I guess it's a good thing she didn't want her pussy. Like, yeah, I guess I guess I guess he's happy. She didn't say, OK, can you fit in the bathroom? So also, Michael Hayes, if you don't know who he is, he is a fabulous free bird guy, real obnoxious asshole. Apparently, nobody liked him. And basically, he was being a dick to JBL, who was one of the cowboy guys. And he knocked him in the forehead where he had a cut from a match.

And it opened up as the cut, this JBL. He was bleeding all over his suit. So this JBL laid him out. Fucking knocked him out. While he was on the ground, somebody cut off his mullet. They chopped off his mulletet they chopped off his mullet they chopped off his ponytail and uh this is like an extreme version of jackass four it's insane uh yeah with with death possible falling from 35 000 feet uh so they cut off his ponytail apparently he didn't notice it till he

went through customs coming back that his hair was anything. Anything to declare? Where's my hair? Yes, this pony. Huh? Wait, I thought I had a mullet to declare. Apparently not. So, yeah, he was all pissed off. And I guess it was it was Baldwin that cut his hair off. Really? Yeah. No one.

No one told on him, though. Wow. Because everyone hated him. How about that? WWE response to this official response. Silver haired middle aged white man. Official response to this is, quote,

the flight was about seven hours in length and at times was low-lighted by a handful of people who consumed too much alcohol and consequently acted like children whose parents were away and left the liquor cabinet unlocked. The conduct of this inebriated minority

was unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Procedures have been put in place to ensure such conduct does not occur in the future. That sounds... That's a brush over....low- occur in the future that sounds a brush over low-lighted james it was low-lighted yeah by toddlers and then they said by this minority making like they're trying to brush it under the rug flare helicopter yeah that's a different story there so a drunken slovenly man who was about to pass out for the

remainder of this flight yeah threatened not just asked for, threatened to give or sex against her will. That's a threat. He didn't say, would you like me to? No. Which is still pretty weird. He said, I'm going to, which sounds like a threat. Wow. Unbelievable.

The other one, me and you are going to fuck. Yeah. Jesus, that's crucial. They uh kurt hennig responsible they end up firing him for this not brock lesnar though even though they were wrestling in the same amount this is what i mean they always pick who the lesser they can and they make an example out of that guy wow great example and uh they get rid of uh gold dust they shit can him also and then ended up also scott hall uh ends it up ends up getting shit can too his release was announced days later uh and so they said they said that he couldn't

make appearances uh they said several wrestlers complained about hall's attitude toward the company beginning in early april uh they also said that he'd been binge drinking, showing up to as many as four April shows under the influence. I guess at the London pay-per-view there, he showed up under the influence after two days of drinking. At one point, fell asleep while the pay-per-view was occurring, then showed up at WWE Raw two nights later under the influence, although he sobered up by the time the show began. And so they're talking about that. sobered up by the time the show began uh and so they're talking about that uh he also appeared in two consecutive shows uh intoxicated and there was a lot of people in the locker room that were pissed off at him for acting like that and they wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors

so he signs with tna which is the uh other shit fucking wrestling there's a lady that runs that yeah dixie carter it's just it's just terrible it's just awful uh by the way uh sean waltman said he posted the ponytail on the wall at the tv taping the next day he stapled it up there so we don't need to talk too much about scott hall about tna honestly he comes in they make a big deal out of him because you know he's a star and they suck so he comes in right in the beginning though in 2002 uh he's there till about 2005 uh and he kind of uh he he ends up uh leaving tna in 2005 and kind of goes under the radar for a while again 2007 he pops up in puerto rico again uh for wwc wrestling as razor ramon but he's wearing a wolf pack outfit so he's wearing an nwo outfit

going as razor ramon which makes no sense sounds like he was drunk and he got yeah he got dressed hammered so he wrestles there for a little while fucks around in puerto rico uh he had a problem he no showed an appearance in puerto rico for a couple days straight and ended up leaving there. Apparently, he said he had family issues that he needed to take care of. He comes back in 2007 to TNA for a little while, ends up on the indie circuit, ends up appearing in Juggalo Championship Wrestling in 2007 and was a member of the Juggalo World Order.

Jesus. So he teamed up with one of the ICP guys to beat some other guys that I've never heard of. Oh, boy. Yeah. Feels like that'd be Violent J that would do that. He was the one wrestling. It was Violent J.

Yeah, I don't know the difference. How can I make that guess? That is embarrassing. Spraying Faygo all over the crowd. I can already see it. Oh, you know what's happening. I already know what happened. That's embarrassing. Spraying Faygo all over the crowd. I can already see it. I already know what happened. That's terrible. So 2008, there's a company called Kayfabe Commentaries,

who, by the way, if you like wrestling stuff, they are kind of the gold standard for wrestling shit. If you want to see an interview, you want to see their interviews. The rest of them are kind of done. They're kind of done with a camcorder in like a broom closet where it looks like the the wrestler may or may not be there against his will it's possible that this might be a court-ordered appearance whereas these ones for kayfabe commentaries the guys actually look like they're

there on purpose they weren't like ambushed with a camera like well they weren't expecting it or anything uh and they do a really really really good job with all shit. Very thorough and they have a good sense of humor. It's the smart guys that put out a good product if you like that sort of shit. Well, they have a bunch of different products, a bunch of different lines of videos and one of them they were doing for a while was they were doing wrestler roasts

where they get a bunch of wrestlers and some comedians and they would roast a certain wrestler. And the first one was the Iron Sheik roast which if you're going to roast somebody in 2008 so easy the chic is the guy to do because he was really famous at that point too uh so this is at the crown plaza hotel too in new jersey it's in a nice hotel they were trying to do a classy thing as classy as you can have for a wrestling event uh anyway there's a comedian there named jimmy graham i don't know who he is he's an

east coast guy and i don't think he's successful or anything like that. But he made a joke during the roast, which he says, quote, this is referring to the Iron Sheik and Hacksaw Jim Duggan getting arrested together at one point. They got arrested for drugs together when they were supposed to be feuding. So that was bad. He says, quote, after the Sheik and Hacksaw Jim Duggan got caught snorting coke in the parking lot, his career fell faster than Owen Hart. Oh, boy.

Which is a rough joke. That is fantastic. But it's a good joke, too, at the same time. Well, while this was happening, Scott Hall, who wasn't invited to this roast, had just wandered in because there's a wrestling convention in town. Okay. He wandered in, hammered shit-faced drunk and making a scene yeah while people were trying to do their shit so if you have if you're a comedian and you're at the dais and you're trying to do jokes about the iron chic right and fucking scott hall

walks in this giant drunken monster that's a rough situation because he's not a regular heckler that you can just fucking rip up right he's gonna come you know he the fans know who he is they see him and they start chanting razor razor razor and he's crotch chopping and doing all that shit and he's the guy's making jokes and he's going real funny asshole yeah he's doing all that sort of shit don't do that yeah don't quit your day job jerk off he's literally yeah he's saying that to the comedians who are up there trying to do their fucking job i I never heard of you. Yeah, I never heard of you. Yeah, that's why you don't have a career or shit like that, right? Oh, boy.

So anyway, he says this joke. And by the way, during all this, the guy who was running this show, Sean Oliver, who's the host of all this and one of the owners of Kayfabe Commentaries. By the way, I read this in a book that he wrote that I had to read for this. And it's fucking good, actually. Really good. A lot of good stories. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Guy's pretty funny. It was a good time. good job sean oliver so uh anyway uh they talk about basically this poor bastard has to like he's like running up to scott hall with like a fucking with a release at this point like sign a release if you're gonna do this at least jesus christ be on my video then if you're gonna act fucking ruin it at least so he said why don't you go up and do a set you're here go do a fucking set if you want to talk there's a microphone go fucking stop ruining shit so you know what scott hall's

answer was what i don't know the chic oh what the fuck are you here for then why did you walk in here get out i don't know the chic so he's like great so instead scott hall just decides to disrupt shit from the back of the room more and keep going and keep going. So eventually the Owen Hart joke comes out. Scott Hall then takes this opportunity to be offended. And as Sean Oliver put it, he found his opportunity to be offended because he was looking for one. He rushes the fucking stage

and chokes this guy up against the fucking back wall. Giant dude choking this fucking comedian up against the back wall. Where the fuck is that video it's out there it's out there oh fuck yeah it's on youtube oh my god you can see any of this shit yeah i see all these open mic or no no assaulted fuck that this is a monster out of control drunk fucking choking a guy they pull him apart off of him the comedian goes his separate way then he grabs the mic and starts saying like stupid shit He says, Everybody pray and tell God to say hi to Owen Hart.

And shit like that. Like weird shit. He's all drunk and trying to be emotional. Say hi to Owen. Say hi to Owen, which is the stupidest thing ever. He's saying it was so disrespectful. At this point, Jim Powers, who's another wrestler from the 80s,

WWF, one of the young Stallion guys there, I guess he was hanging out with Scott Hall and Scott Hall had been getting fucked up up in his room. Oh, my God. So now this guy, another wrestler, is trying to physically pick Scott up and carry him the fuck out of here to keep him from getting arrested. Because at one point, the video people are like, just call the fucking cops. Fuck this guy. We need bullets. And this isn't the only time this has happened.

At one point, he attacked a guy named Rob Feininstein who's an interview who does uh shoot interviews of a lesser quality rf video um he was supposed to have a an interview with him and i guess he was super fucked up and uh just attacked him he said the guy said he pinned him up against a window on a 10th story of a hotel he thought he was going to shove him out the window and he's a father he's a fucking lunatic and i guess x-pac came in and talked him off of him and saved the guy's life basically always there in the corner just waiting but that rob he is he's hanging out but that rob feinstein you know what maybe it wasn't so bad because he was actually uh confronted by chris hansen on an episode of to catch a prior he never got charged with anything so we don't know what he was doing allegedly but he definitely showed up to a house there's footage of him showing up to a house with Chris Hansen going, how's it going there, pal?

Or whatever he says to him. So maybe he needed to get a seat. Have a seat. Have a talk. I just want to talk to you. Allegedly. There's the most uncomfortable video. Yeah.

No. Oh, God. My favorite heckling video is the one of the guitar comic in like Texas or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. When he just smashes the guy in the fucking head, it goes then he goes he provoked it right everybody i'm like no i'm like i'm on your side pal i was i'm totally honest but the crowd just turns on me he goes fuck this shit i'm out of here fuck you people so uh jesus so good 2010 uh they brought they

brought hulk hogan in to kind of help run things to remember they had like billboards up in times square of tna tna is gonna you know now we're gonna do something what year is this 2010 okay i'm gone from it by the oh i was way out but it was like it was in the like mainstream news that hulk hogan was doing interviews everywhere saying before his kid killed somebody this is like right afterwards but anyway uh scott hall comes back to this whole thing and ends up being fired pretty quickly uh so he does some uh indie indie shit around then in 2010 and may 3rd he does an indie promotion uh gig may 14th 2010 authorities are called to the hitching post bar bar in Chulota, Florida. I don't know where the fuck that is.

Chulota. At 1.40 a.m., after Hall, who'd been drinking heavily, became aggressive, pushed a customer, argued with the female bartender and also the bartender's father, who was the owner of the restaurant, of the bar. After the bartender lined up a ride home for Scott Hall this is how the even after his belligerent behavior they tried to get him a ride home he instead punched out the window of the car and pushed two

female patrons who were standing near the car so authorities arrived they found him yelling and cursing at other wrestlers at the bar staff at everybody that was around intoxicated slurring speech had bloodshot eyes he was told he was being taken into custody he refused to comply and the deputy had to forcibly put handcuffs on

him which doesn't sound fun nope uh it said quote the police report said quote scott refusing this directive and instead thrust out his chest walking closer to me stating i ain't going down for this shit this is bullshit. You know it's bullshit. It goes on to say that Hall continued to refuse, but the deputy managed to secure his left wrist in a handcuff and then pulled his arm behind him. He said in the report, quote, due to Scott's inordinate size,

which is at this point 6'5", 295 pounds, I utilized two sets of handcuffs in tandem, which you would have to. He was taken. This is a 50-year-old man, James. That's what I mean. This is an old man. He shouldn't be doing this. Get it together.

He was taken to the seminal jail and issued a trespass warning to forbid him from ever returning to that bar. In the police report, he listed himself as unemployed, even though this was like a week before he got released from TNA. So he knew. He knew. i'm about to be fired he i think he said if i put tna on here that's going to get a red flag and tmz you'll see it sooner right i think that's what he probably i'll bet you're right which is actually smart because he knows uh after he's released from tna he's checked into a wwe sponsored rehab okay we've talked about this wwe as a thing because you know all these people die because they

fucking didn't do anything to help them so now they send out letters to everybody saying we'll pay for whatever rehab you need uh up to a point right uh scott hall is one of the people that they really really spent a lot on because he was a major star for them a lot of other people they're like that like sunny they were like i don't know you had a couple runs uh i don't know what to tell you go to the shithole place. Whatever. Stephanie McMahon said, quote, without giving too many particulars, it's in the six figures for how much money we spent sending Scott to rehab. It's the most amount of money we've ever spent on anyone for treatment. What do you think it is?

800? I can't imagine. You think it's that high? They sent him like a dozen times. He's probably in 200 no yeah it's got to be super expensive and this is all from the espn e60 documentary they did on scott hall in 2011 uh they did this little mini 18 minute documentary on him he says scott says quote there's got to be some reason that i'm still here. I should have been dead 100 times. Truer words never been spoken.

So he ends up going to rehab for that, checking out a rehab in early October 2010. He, at this point, has a defibrillator and a pacemaker put in his heart because he's having health problems. He's also hospitalized for double pneumonia in 2010. And at this point, like during the documentary in 2011, he takes 11 medications every day. He lined up all his pill bottles. And it's a fucking lot. It's a lot. November 2010, he appears at a wrestling show.

So he does that. January 8, 2011, he makes an appearance at in at an a show called i believe in wrestling in orlando and talked about his health in front of to the crowd uh march 7 2011 he is sentenced to three months probation uh stemming from the disorderly intoxication and conduct and resisting the officer at the bar there should thank his lucky stars he's a white guy not a black guy would have been shot yeah punching out windows i ain't going down for this shit swinging their arms around shit i'll give you bullshit oh yeah you'd end up with a fucking clip in you especially in florida yeah so uh may 14th 2010 uh here that is the one where he is uh that's what

he's arrested for or that's what he's sentenced for put or that's what he's sentenced for. Put your phones down, by the way. James knows it's a magazine. Yeah. Moving forward. Yes, yes, I know what you're talking about. I know my phone's about to start alerting me. Yeah, fuck off. James doesn't know that it's a magazine. He knows.

Yeah, shut up. Fuck his show. James is a gangster, that's all. God damn it. So, WrestleMania 2011, Shawn Michaels is being inducted into the Hall of Fame, and everybody thinks that Scott Hall is going to show up because he's one of his buddies. Hall puts out a statement saying that he will not attend. He says, I want to announce right now that I wanted to be in Atlanta to see Shawn Michaels get inducted into the Hall of Fame, but I had to change my mind because I'm not strong enough to be in that situation right now.

All I wanted to be was around my old buddies in Atlanta where we were over like Rover with the NWO stuff. Such a fun city. But being with the boys is such a heavy trigger for me to party like that. I'm not ready for that atmosphere. I'm just going to sit at home and watch it on pay-per-view. Healthy. Over like Rover, James.

Over like Rover. April 7, 2011, he's hospitalized. There's rumors of a seizure, rumors an od all sorts of rumors we don't know exactly uh why he uh why he he's hospitalized a lot of times you have a seizure when you know if it when you know that happens yeah that's what i mean especially with all these different medications and you don't know how medications react doesn't necessarily have to be coke or heroin he says though that he will be at the event the next day that he's supposed to be at. He says that fans bought tickets. They're going to get their money's worth.

He said, you know, whatever. He's going to do this shit. April 8th, 2011, he's slated to appear in the main event for an indie show in Fall River, Massachusetts. He gets released from the hospital. He pops out. Now, this is what the promoter said. Quote, he got off gets released from the hospital. He pops out. Now, this is what the promoter said. Quote, he got off the plane in a wheelchair. And the first thing he said was, I want my money. I knew we were in a world of hurt at that point. He comes out. OK, they announce him.

He peeks through this little curtain. He comes out. He can't walk. He takes like two baby steps and he's trying to do crotch chop, but he can't even lift his arms up and down. He's still got a hospital wristband on. He's so fucked up. He can't move. He can't even make the little like wolf pack sign with his fingers. He's so fucked up.

They take him to the ring. Two assholes from the promotion on either side of him carry him out to the ring. Why are they doing this? To let him talk in the fucking ring and then after that they go through with the angle they were going to do where somebody hits him and he falls down he's fucking hammered he could have fallen broken his fucking neck oh my god at that point they have him act like he's hitting a guy in slow motion they have him like act like he's taking it hitting a guy with a fucking chair is this shit on youtube oh it's on youtube it's

absolutely on it's on the espn for it was on es fucking pn uh it's it's fucking insane man uh he Is this shit on YouTube? pock they talk to this interview with him and he's like he was pissed at these book at these promoters for doing it of course and i agree yeah what kind of a piece of this is the same fucking people that shove pablo francisco out on a fucking stage and he can't talk it's the same this is what this is why i say comedy wrestling are the same thing they're like well we sold tickets tonight if we get rid of him if we tell him he can't go out then we have to return all this money or we can just shove him out there and then it's on him then we can just blame him for it rather than having some fucking when you book scott hall you take a fucking risk that you might have to return all those people's money that's the risk of booking him he's going to be a draw people want to see him but he might not show up or he might show up not and ready to go same thing as you book pablo he might be great and people might come to see him or or he might

fall off the fucking stage it It's going to be bad. But you booked him. It's your fucking responsibility. So I hate this shit. The same way they hated that they left Pablo out there. Didn't shut his fucking mic off. Let him embarrass himself. Let him drown.

And yeah, that's maybe that might be the saddest. I've seen a lot of bad open mic. Sad comment. This is the same. Watch this video. It reminds you of that. So it's so sad. You comment. This is the same. Watch this video. It reminds you of that so much. It's so sad. You just want to save the guy.

After that, he is checked into a hospital in Rhode Island. He is treated for an overdose of opiates and benzoyl. What the fuck is that? Yeah. Benny's. So anyway, Hall, his representatives there, they said that it was untrue and fabricated. He's fine. He's not sick.

He visits his doctor regularly. And that's what the deal was. He wasn't in the hospital the day before. They said that he was in the hospital for low blood pressure and a change in blood pressure medication. He never overdosed. All that kind of shit uh what the fuck is the overdose what what he's fine it's too much in him yeah there's something too much or not enough in this motherfucker april 11th 2011 the promotion that had that put on that show

uh they released a statement saying that uh he arrived the day the of the event in a wheelchair with three bottles of prescription pills in his possession. And through the following day, he showed up in that state. He was demanding his appearance fee, even though he already had been paid. He made threats to the staff and made demands about money and when he would perform. Hall was screaming that he would kill him if he fucked him over. So it's that sort of thing.

So they just put him out there. Ridiculous. Kevin Nash released a statement on Tumblr like a 14-year-old girl for some reason. In what year, 2010? 2011. Oh, this is early. Yeah, he's like a 14-year-old girl.

This was the first one. It was him and his daughter. He said, Scott Hall's in bad shape and each time I talk to him, I feel as if it may may be the last it's gotten to the point where i save his voicemails because i know sometimes i heard this message it could be his last he's there he's he's that friend he's that friend that you're worried about like that he's got that friend that's his yep he said uh nobody has uh it's it's a fucking mess man uh kevin nash said nobody knows what scott has gone through since early childhood to this

point, except for me. I can tell you Scott Hall has neither a drug or alcohol addiction. Scott's problem is that he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. Drugs and alcohol aren't the problem to Scott. They're the solution. He is a fragile and broken human being, not a racehorse that you can whip to perform. Is Kevin Nash saying that murdering that man in that parking lot? Yes, that's what Scott Hall says, too.

Really? Scott Hall says that's the catalyst. That's the catalyst for all this is the murder. That made him, that was the... Self-defense murder. That's self-defense murder, yeah. They said that's PTSD, and that's what he's been diagnosed with now, and that's what he's been trying to help.

Now, also, genetically, all of his family are alcohol alcoholics so right but here's the thing about that the second that the state and crimes uh uh crimes no the the second that law enforcement absolves you of all wrongdoing in that case what the fuck would you have to feel you have you had skull on your face and brain particles that could be traumatic i can see that it's not your fault yeah i can still see you want it to defend yourself i can't see i mean i guess war too they got ptsd yeah and that's you know i don't think they have guilt over it as much as just you see horrible shit it sticks in your head and you can't get rid of it i think i think their guilt is that uh their friends are dead and they're alive yeah that's exactly yeah you're everybody's alive well a lot of his friends are dead a bunch of his friends are dead but not not they not from that situation yeah not from a very self-inflicted

situation with these people i get ptsd though yeah no it's true that a lot of things can make it happen i've never shot someone in point blank range with a 45 so i don't know what that's like i pulled a 45 on somebody and was completely willing to shoot the man. If you barn-doored the back of his head, we could talk about what it felt like. That's a great point. I almost did. It almost happens. So, May 8, 2011, he's on a phone conversation with his ex-wife, Dana.

He reportedly came to terms with the fact that he doesn't have long to live at this point in this conversation and he hung up on her hung up abruptly she alerted the authorities and uh and and told them to go to his house and meet them at his house and she'd go there too she said quote i could barely understand him but finally heard him say that he was sorry for his behavior and after wrapping his head around it he knew he was going to die and didn't have much time left and wanted me and the kids to be with him in the end uh he said she said he sounded like he might be dying i was freaking out because he sounded really bad so of course the cops get there and have a physical altercation with scott who doesn't want to be dealt with at that point uh after this dana cuts off all ties with scott and doesn't talk to him anymore okay uh july 5th 2011 he checks himself into rehab uh or checks himself into jail i'm sorry he's ordered to serve

10 days in jail after the uh being found guilty of resisting arrest um that was the man the bar incident there uh he is uh so this was for screaming at drunken people. October 2011 is when the ESPN documentary comes out on him. April 6, 2012, cops are called to his house over a domestic disturbance in progress. When they arrive, Scott's girlfriend, Lisa Howell, informed police that he had attacked her. She said he'd been drinking for days and they had gotten into some kind of argument. She says she got into the car and in a blind rage, Scott grabbed her by the throat and tried to pull her out of the driver's seat. The police confronted Scott,

who appeared to be heavily intoxicated, quote, with unknown white secretion flowing from both sides of his mouth. Ew. I don't know what could be flowing. Ew. Not just sitting there, flowing. Not just a little spittle, flowing.

That word just incites so many questions. Flowing. Yeah. So that's police observe, observe several signs of physical injury on Lisa, including red marks around her neck. So they placed Scott under arrest for domestic battery. Again, two sets of handcuffs there. Does he have rabies?

Maybe at this point, who knows? I could see him fighting a raccoon for no reason, so it's possible. So Scott was so drunk that the jail refused to book him, so they had to take him to a hospital to get medical clearance first. Once they said he was okay, they booked him on a domestic violence charge. Lisa refused to press charges, though. She doesn't want to press charges. A few days later, on April 11th, he speaks out, saying that the police overreacted.

He never choked his girlfriend. His representative said Scott did not choke out his girlfriend, Lisa Howell. That's the quote there. Even though they saw multiple signs of injury that were consistent with her story. Scott's lawyer said the police arrested Mr. Hall against the wishes of Ms. Howell, who insisted that the argument did not result in violence, even though she fucking said it did. Ms. Howell claims that there was no physical abuse. Now she refuses to press charges. It's in limbo.

July 14th, 2012. He accompanies his son, Cody, for Cody's ring debut as a wrestler. Yes. Cody Hall's a wrestler? Cody Hall's a wrestler. He's a big kind of a big deal in Japan actually. Really? Yep. He's doing pretty well actually over there so good for Cody I guess. 2013

finally he is at rock fucking bottom. This is rock bottom. He's in wheelchairs. He can't walk. He can't do anything. He's just a mess. Once he gets back from the ring with his son he doesn't know what the fuck to do with himself. Now he's got his son involved in this and the whole thing. And so he takes some time to himself, and he just goes outside for a minute, and he's standing by the dumpster out back. And he's just standing there, and there's nobody to talk to when he's happy about that.

He just wants some solitude. Then he hears some dogs barking, and there's nobody to talk to when he's happy about that. He just wants some solitude. And he hears some dogs barking and he's very confused. And from around the dumpster comes Bobby Colorado, animal trainer from Fredericksburg, Texas. And he says. How is it you come to arrive here? What the fuck is wrong? Now you got your kid here? What the fuck is wrong? Now you got your kid here? What are you, fucking stupid?

Let me ask you a question. You get into this shit. You knock your head around. You do stupid shit. You guys, you all do pills and drugs and you're doing all this shit. And now you're like, you know what would be good for my son? That. That's what I think I'm going to do, you dumb son of a bitch.

You know what? You don't even deserve one of my dogs. You're fucking up with the kids so bad. What would you do with a fucking dog? You'd just leave it outside. It would fucking die. No, you can't even buy one of my dogs. You're fucking up with the kids so bad. What would you do with a fucking dog? You'd just leave it outside? It would fucking die. No, you can't even buy a dog from me. I won't even train your dog.

What's that white shit in your mouth? You already got rabies? It's flowing from the sides of your mouth. The last time I saw that, I put a German Shepherd down because I had to. He couldn't be trained. You know what I'm saying? I got to go. I got a poof.

And then a poof of dog shit and marinara sauce. He's gone. Scott is like, did I take that pill beforehand or not because shit was that a red or a blue what the fuck am i doing 2013 he moves in with diamond dallas page okay does the same thing jake did yeah he is one of ddp's yoga this is what i mean it's nice that he's helping these people but he's also using this to sell yoga so it's like really weird i'll say it now they asked us to do an ad for ddp yoga when we were on another network and we said no because i'm like uh no i don't know they wanted us to do it i'm like i'm not fucking doing yoga i look like we need you to a lot some hours would you say hours yeah we're like

we don't have any hours to give you a We need a couple minutes to give you a couple poses. What the fuck? You can take a picture of it if you want. So he moves in in April. He moves in with DDP. And DDP is helping him greatly, though. He really is. He can barely walk due to arthritis.

He needs a hip replacement, but he's unable to pay because he doesn't have any health insurance. This is what I mean. These guys beat the shit out of themselves in these rings, and then they have no health insurance. And then WWE goes, I don't know. If you get fucked up on drugs, let us know. We'll send you to rehab. But otherwise, limp around, asshole. You know, DDP is a brave dude to be doing this in the first place.

My point is that he's putting himself out there in terms of a lawsuit, because he could be telling these guys, look, this could help. He may be having them sign something to be smart. Because this is all on video, too. None of this shit is done in the privacy. This is all for promotional purposes. I know a dude, a very famous comedian, that gave advice to a woman that was a cancer patient,

gave her advice to do something opposite of what the doctors did. She died. He got sued like a motherfucker. He probably shouldn't be giving medical advice as a comedian, so she shouldn't be taking it either all his friends he shouldn't be giving all his friends said the same thing yeah hey dummy what do you give him medical advice for why don't you go to medical school school stupid well he now needs a law degree because he's fucking paying through the nose jesus so ddp set up an Indiegogo campaign for him. And within with three days left to run in the campaign, they raised one hundred and two thousand eight hundred and seventy nine dollars, which is more than the eighty thousand dollar goal. More than thirty four hundred people chipped in to get Scott Hall hip surgery. And he gets hip surgery. And yeah, not not too shabby here. he's got pain pills now he's got pain pills yeah absolutely he says quote a lot of things i'm not proud of and a lot of things i can't even remember

doing he says he uh he talks about drug and alcohol addictions basically uh he says he's had a ton of concussions and drugs too so he doesn't he doesn't remember a lot of shit he says quote sometimes i watch films of myself when i was younger and i don't even remember being there it was it's pretty awful um he said that uh co uh hall page has also helped him uh uh re reconcile with his son a little bit kind of being a middleman with his son uh for years he was barred from contact with his children because of dana because you because he was being a disaster. Hall says, quote, She blamed the wrestling on the breakup of our marriage

and the fact that I was a poor father for so many years. I was a rotten father. I know that. I hope I can make up for all those lost years. I'm a lot more focused as a human being right now. March 24, 2014, he is inducted into the wwe hall of fame wow they brought him back to do a little angle with sting during wrestlemania they made kind of a big deal about him there are fluff pieces everywhere just ddp if one thing he is he's a promoting son of a bitch he's a hustler i don't mean that in a bad way i mean he hustles his product out there yeah and uh he'll promote it if you're somebody's doing well uh he says uh scott hall releases a statement at this point saying quote

to anyone that will listen i honestly tell them that there are people that can help you find some professional that you can connect with and go for it ignoring the problem the real problem did not work for me nor do i recommend it to anyone else if you click with your therapist then you then they can help you i had the uh inability to ask for help when i needed it people offered uh people offered to help me but i refused they'd ask how are you and i'd answer better than you so that's pretty interesting that's a really great statement that's actually the smartest thing he's ever said well he also says i finally had the courage and clarity to forgive myself i had lied to myself for years i couldn't keep a promise to myself for instance

like saying i'm not drinking today and a couple hours later i'm drinking heavily uh forgiving myself uh forgiving myself is the best thing that happened to me uh which makes fucking sense there that's that's huge that's the first step is admitting and forgiving yourself for the mistakes. Somebody's dead. He's got to deal with that. He's got to deal with the shit that he's done

to his kids and his wife and himself. And I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Scott Hall. Jesus.

Artificial intelligence and machine learning in the enterprise in the greater New York City area. Scott Hall, alternative data founder of Althub, whatever that is, strategy, sales, development. Scott Hall, a sergeant in the Detroit Police Department. Poor guy. Poor bastard. Scott Hall, senior vice president for civic and community initiatives at Greater Kansas City of Commerce. Let's just leave it at that. Poor bastard. Scott Hall, Senior Vice President for Civic and Community Initiatives at Greater Kansas City of Commerce.

Let's just leave it at that. Some professionals. The Kansas City Chamber of Commerce and a police officer. He's good now, is what we're saying. 2014, like we said, he's the seventh and final inductee into that class of the Hall of Fame. They came out. Kevin Nash did the speech for him, inducted him. Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Shawn

Waltman joined him on stage, reuniting all their friends there. So it was a big deal they made out of that whole thing. May 13, 2015, he signs with Jeff Jarrett's new promotion, Global Force Wrestling, which when he broke away from TNA, he started

his own promotion here. That's May 13th. They said that he's going to be a part of the roster. Then on May 18th, he appeared intoxicated at an indie show, and he's fired from the new promotion. GFW. May 19th, 2015, he does a skate and surf festival weekend thing uh where uh a bunch of old wrestlers are there scott's tommy dreamer sandman gross x-box scott hall uh yeah well the problem is uh the uh tmz posted video of him drunk at the festival scott calling uh one of the calling

out a wrestler for quote talking smack about his son and his son wasn't even there uh he eventually left ringside and did some crock shops as they led him away from ringside uh they cut several times showing him speaking with event staff and arguing with people and uh they said that uh he was under the influence the promotion would no longer do business with him until he gets his life in check. There's videos of him also with Coors Light and tequila from that time. The promoter said, quote,

he passed out two times and then pissed himself. We let him sleep. Is that a quote? That's a quote. Pissed himself. Pissed himself. We let him sleep for three hours. When he woke up, he went to the bar again,

and then we threw him out. My Lord. September 2016, he's at the TGIF in the Atlanta airport. TGI Fridays. TGI Fridays in the Atlanta airport. Oh, God. He admitted to an alcohol relapse after he's filmed fighting with people in the bar, calling a bartender a bitch, and drinking tequila and Coors Light. He was asked to leave this whole deal here.

He was drinking, and finally the cops called, because there's a lot of them at the airport. Yeah. They escorted him out, and no arrests are made there. They just, he's lucky, I would say. Yeah. But he's, it didn't work out well. Diamond Dallas Page says that you know anything happens

here anything can happen Hall said thank you to everyone for your support and concern regarding my recent relapse I'm back on track and doing well Diamond Dallas Page tweeted out I'm proud of his bounce back that's all he tweeted that means it means buy my yoga

November 6 2016 he misses another appearance he was set to appear with sean michaels kevin nash and sean waltman at an indie show in lasalle illinois and uh apparently he didn't show up there uh he was a no-show uh his son at this point a lot of he's no show for everybody his son doesn't know where he is he's missing for like months really just missing we assume it's a relapse and he goes under doesn't know where he is. He's missing for like months. Really? Just missing. We assume it's a relapse and he goes under the radar to do this. Yeah, it's posted that DDP posted a stat posted on the thing that he was concerned about where Hall was.

Couldn't find him. Cody Hall, his son, said, quote, No, I haven't heard from my dad. He tweeted this. Last I heard, he was going to the UK two weeks ago. He always says how great it is i assume he just stayed and ddp says i haven't talked to scott yet because i'm in the dominican republic at a ddp yoga workshop but from what i have understand he's okay trademark that in the tweet no unfortunately he would have if he could that would have been amazing uh yeah so uh yeah

he says he gives diamond dell's page all the the whatever in the world, all the credit in the world. He's not missing any more as of December 2016 because he tweets a picture of his Christmas tree. And it says, just put my tree up. Hashtag haul good. And in the picture, his television off to the side has porn playing on it, which is fucking hilarious. He deleted the post right after that. But's i've seen the picture it's fucking funny it's very funny he put up a tree he's tugging and then he goes you know i should show everybody that i got my tree up the best thing is he's not even tugging to he just has it on that's

entertainment to him he just has that on as a tv show like he you know hey this is the thing that makes me feel like i'm most in an orlando strip club or he's like like you with the wire like he's watching everyone yeah like the like the plots maybe that's what it is he's trying to see yeah i want to see how this one ends i'll tell you how it ends scotty turn Turn it off. Jesus Christ. He comes out against bullying in 2017. He says, obviously, I'm against bullying, but it does happen. The business has changed so much since I came in. When I came in, it wasn't a bunch of women wrestlers. There was maybe one or two women who came in a couple months a year.

Now in the locker room, there's women. It's much more politically correct than it was when I started. So I think the bullying stuff, that's not tolerated anywhere. So it certainly can't be tolerated in the wrestling business. Then he begins to talk about ribs that people play on each other. And he says he hoped there would still be

a good place for that, that sort of thing. He says it's like when you find out a guy's room number, then you go down to the bar and buy drinks for everybody and you go, hey, just charge the drinks to my room and you put his room number down. To me, that's funny. I might charge a bunch of drinks to your room but i'm not going to steal your passport it's funny it's funny unless you do it to them then you pummel an unconscious man i know a guy's forehead who doesn't think it's so funny yeah also there's no room for bullying you called kevin nash a fag into a microphone that's his friend so you're

allowed to call your friends but he did in front of a lot of people. June 2017, the fluff pieces are back, baby. Oh, he's such a hypocrite. Oh, yes he is. Fluff pieces are huge as of 2017. DDP Yoga has a PR team from hell. Here's an article from Fox Sports titled, 58-year-old WWE legend Scott Hall is now in phenomenal shape. Yeah. And it's just

a look at how great he is, DDP yoga, the whole deal. We do get a decent quote out of this here. He says, quote, I love the wrestling business, but my mom never named me Razor. That I did with the blessing of Vince McMahon, but at the end of the day, the wrestling business was always essentially

about the money and the miles. My most important legacy is being a good father to my two children which i have not done at all he doesn't say that can you read the beginning of that again yeah he says uh i love the wrestling business but my mom never named me razor no she named you oliver we named you oliver which razors razor's a cool name it is because that's that's one of the things that he came in he came up with the razor part and then tito santana gave him the Ramon, because he's like, I need a Spanish name that goes with Razor. And he said, Ramon.

Ramon. And he said, cool. So he used Razor Ramon. But that was like Razor Ruddock. Remember the boxer Razor Ruddock? Yeah. You know what Razor Ruddock's real first name is? No.

Donovan. No. Does Donovan Ruddock sound like a tough man? That sounds terrible. Donny? Either you're Donovan Ruddock, which sounds like an English professor, or you're Razor Ruddock, which sounds like he'd cut you with a sharpened garbage can lid. And they're in his boxing gloves.

Yeah. So August 1st, 2018, he is seen around the Performance Center, which is the WWE training facility here. He said he's glad to be back in the mix. He has been done the last year, I guess, two separate occasions. training facility here. He said he's glad to be back in the mix. He has been done the last year, I guess, two separate occasions. He's been around the young guys there. He says he's thrilled to be back in the WWE Performance Center with the young guns. He said, quote, I'm so glad to be back. This is my third time down here working with the young guys.

Every time I come down, I'm attracted to the guys that are just starting, which sounds terrible. I'm just attracted to them. Their buttholes are nice and nice and tight did somebody say all the guys get to go to his room let's let's hope not nobody pulled that one uh late august 2018 he's scheduled to uh do an anniversary show for some indie promotion. He has to withdraw for health reasons. So he has that kind of problem, but it's nothing too big. His son, Cody has been in new Japan wrestling for two,

for a couple of years and, uh, is now in pro wrestling Noah over there, uh, which is another Japanese promotion. He's doing pretty well in the pro wrestling illustrated top 500 wrestlers of 2018. He's number 317.

That's not bad. So he's working, is what that means. 316 better. Can't get enough of Scott Hall? Yes. You can follow him on Twitter. He is at ScottHallNWO, where he tweets. He's tweeted 40,000 times. My lord.

He has 208,000 followers. He's doing great. He's doing great. He's only following 1,030 people, so not too shabby. Also, you can go to prowrestlingtees.com, where wrestlers kind of have all their own pages of T-shirts. And he's got one that's kind of funny if you're a Razor Ramon kind of fan here. It's a picture like a 70s band picture where it's black and white, and they're all standing up against a brick wall. 70s band picture like where it's black and white and they're all standing up against a brick wall.

Although it's four pictures of him like looking different, but all looking like he's in a punk band. And it says the Ramones, but not the Ramones. It's kind of fucking funny, actually. Yeah. He's got a couple, you know, bad guy one and all sorts of shit like that. But that's Scott Hall. Wow.

Continuing to this day. Stay tuned because next week it could all change. It could. Just like Jake. We don't know. Who knows? He's doing well now. It could end in fucking terrible circumstances.

We have no idea. Or he could go on to be, I don't know, whatever, but he's not going to be president or anything. Die at 72. Yeah, let's see what happens. That would be good for him,

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