Crime in Sports - #149 - The Fallen Boy Scout (And The Scummie Awards!!) - The Diminutiveness of Chuck Knoblauch

Episode Date: February 12, 2019

This week, before we get to the Scummie Awards, we dodge an errant throw from a man who was bred for baseball. It was his dream, from the time he could remember, and he achieved that dream, despite his smaller stature. Although he was very successful, someone his brain just wouldn't let the good times roll, and it ruined his career, and sent a sportscaster's mother to the hospital. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the last person he sent to the hospital, as his personal life started to crumble, and multiple marriages dissolved, resulting in court, violence, arrest, and humidifiers used as weapons. Work so hard that coaches tell you to stop practicing, win 4 World Series rings, and injure an old lady with a badly thrown baseball with Chuck Knoblauch!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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on an episode with these scummies looming knowing how wonderful they are in my tie and everything like that but let's get to it because we have to our our honoree of the week here uh is it is chuck knob block oh wonderful we know chuck knob block the little second baseman from the 90s in baseball and he's had some issues and uh we've all seen him around always had issues on and off the field uh edward charles knob block first name edward first name edward named after his uncle yeah and uh goes by chuck though. Let's go for the Chuckster. That's as Chuck as it gets. Chuck.

He looks like a Chuck. Yeah. He really does. Flat top looking guy. Very just a quintessential 80s and 90s white guy. This is the fall of a Boy Scout, this thing. Oh, really? His whole life, he's just, we'll talk about it, he's the coach's son.

He has to do everything perfect. Really? He's this very clean cut'll talk about it. He's the coach's son. He has to do everything perfect. He's this very clean cut regimented perfect. Everybody talks about fundamentals. His fundamentals are great as fundamentals and then just all of out of nowhere like they slowly things start to fall apart on the field and it leaks into off the field and it's just fuck man. It's the fall. It's the fall of somebody and it's a mental fall is really what it is because it's not really drug-induced or it's a mental fall.

Just a breakdown. It's so strange, man. This is one of the weirdest things we've ever encountered. Usually there's like, well, that's the factor here. There's like, well, what's the factor? It just happens. It's such a mess. This mess started all the way back on july 7th 1968

in houston texas he's born and he's he grows up in you know texas and uh very texas kind of guy there's family too uh his father is an ex minor league baseball player and high school baseball coach he coaches the local high school's baseball team so you know baseball is a big deal in this household right away i mean chuck is immediately into baseball it's hilarious he's got a flat top and his name's chuck chuck and if you looked at that guy and you told him told somebody that his name was chuck you'd be like where is he born where did he grow up you know it's fucking arkansas texas no texas i was gonna say arkansas you almost had me but i think it's texas i'm not gonna lie that's what he looks like though he really does as a and his father comes from a

clean-cut family his mother is linda his father is ray uh ray knob block the the coach there and he comes from a big family a lot of kids here uh four girls and two boys jesus that's a six we got a brady bunch situation with an extra girl here ray is laying down the cock uh from a young age just pumping him out yeah and i have a feeling he needed some more boys he's like i got him in i got it well yeah pumping him out and linda's pumping out and in so uh well he's pumping it out too technically pumping it out in case you guys don't know how babies are made in case you're wondering sorry if uh we spoiled the we spoiled it for any kids out there hey if you're under the age of 11 probably don't listen i would say at that point uh well because we're gonna have we got a big

santa claus section later i want you to hear so it's gonna be gonna be rough for you let's just say that so there's two boys it's chuck and his brother mark now chuck grows up to be 5'8 he is uh and maybe yeah he's a tiny guy in the world of professional sports i mean when you see him walking off the field with everybody else you're like holy shit that guy's little i mean that's the first thing if you say chuck knoblock to anybody remembers him to go little guy like that's the first thing anyone remembers about him listen to this shit his brother mark is six foot five why dude that would be like if me and you were brothers you'd be like you're you would hate my guts you're like you're such a fucking asshole our whole lives you'd be like what happened why what did i do until we travel together and then you

you're an asshole being comfortable lord why do you smite me i'd be so upset it's fine how do you get to why what's his brother it's not even close what's his brother different things he plays ball for a while he doesn't make the kind of money chuck does but he's still six five you know he's like you fucking bastard has to yeah he he height is a big deal for him too because he wants to be an athlete his whole life and he's always the smallest kid so it's he that's always in his head like and then hanging around all the guys that are in in the majors too yeah he's still the fucking little guy every day always yeah always but that's the thing about baseball is you can be 5'8 and not like chuck knoblock he's pretty fast and he's pretty strong but he's not like you know he doesn't run a 4 240 or anything like that

but you can be 5'8 and just have good enough skills and play professional baseball there's no other sport like that in football if you're 5'8 you better run a a fucking 4'3", 30. At least you're going to get killed. And if you're fast as shit, you'll play. You'll play. You'll certainly play. Until you're broken. Until a big guy grabs ahold of you. And in basketball, if you're 5'8", you better be the most athletic guy.

You've got to have a 48-inch vertical jump. There's like four of them in history. People don't have, so that doesn't happen a lot. There's Earl Boykins. There's Nate Robinson, Muggsy, Spud. That's it. There's a few. Done.

Those are your short guys. The rest, nobody gives a fuck about. That's your best guys. That's it. So that's what happens. So in baseball, you have a chance. Lucky for him, his father's a baseball coach. Like we said, at three years old, he was the ball boy for his father's baseball team, the

Bel Air Cardinals. They live in Bel Air, Texas. He says, quote, I was born right into baseball, is what Chuck says, and I developed a real love for it right away. I never needed to be forced to play. He was the type of kid who just, that's all he ever wanted to do. He said one of the first toys he ever remembers was a Johnny Bench batter upset. Yeah. In which these little, you know, you hit it and i had a bat and a t and

everything and you hit the ball with a level level swing and if you hit it right the arm of the batting t would spin and hit you throw another pitch and if you didn't hit it the arm would wobble and stop and then they'd have to you'd have to reset it and it would give you a second to think about your swing it gives you a benefit to keep hitting exactly so that's the way he did it and i guess he got really good at it very very young and uh and his swing always was very level even his stance was weird he had this stance yeah he held the bat kind of back he crouched down to nothing he's 580 crouched down to about 47 right and have the bat kind of lean him back and just swing this level swing that's the luck throwing strikes in this strike zone that's the thing he was a really good he was a tough at bat for that

strike zone was non-existent and he was really good at just big flap you know ball on the outside corner just pop blooper just pop it off into the foul you know foul it off and stay alive okay he's really good at that all those late 90s yankees had this their whole thing was everybody have long at bats okay and they'd wear a pitcher out by the yeah by the fifth inning because you every guy every guy you're going deep in counts with getting them nine ten pitches in they just had this thing of fouling pitches off paul o'neill used to drive guys crazy with that shit i remember my friend rod telling me about it those guys were pain in the ass in the late 90s told me about bernie williams fouling

off about a dozen pitches off of him and then hitting a grand slam home run to dead center field on the 13th pitch. He's like, I threw 12 great pitches and he fouled them all off. Because that's the one that's exactly where I want it. He goes, I missed one by an inch and he fucking put it in the seats. Son of a bitch. You know, that's what happens. That would be the most frustrating position in all of baseball.

Closer and then you've got to leave. That's it. No chance to get it back. And then Closer and then you've got to leave. That's it. No chance to get it back. And then you walk off. You've got to come back tomorrow and still think you're a badass. So that's what he did. He shrugged it off. And for him, going home was to the parking lot to his RV.

Oh, no. That was in... No, he had a house when he was playing for the Red Sox. Because it would hurt even more if you're just going out to the parking lot, climbing into a bunk. He actually, at that point, had a house that shared a fence with Peter Gammons, which is interesting. A VSPN there.

How about that? Yeah. That was like his Wilson. Oh, that's hilarious. It was fucking Peter Gammons over the fence. He's like, that's a sitcom. Rod Beck and Peter Gammons sharing a fence there. Yeah, trimming his edges going, what happened last night?

Yeah. What's going on there? Rod going, fuck you, old man. That's not 12 great pitches and one shitty one shitty one the only one that counted was that shitty one that goddamn shitty one jesus christ that's so funny and he would say that too that's the thing like he didn't give a shit the one there was one time uh he told me where he played for the cubs and uh mark it was a ground ball the first base to mark grace in the hole and uh basically the was a ground ball to first base to mark grace in the hole and uh basically the runner beat the beat mark grace going to the bag right and

everybody on sports radio was giving mark grace shit saying he was slow to get over the bag and fucking rod called in and said actually asshole it was my fault i'm the one who should have fucking covered the bag and i got off the bag slow because i'm a fat fuck that's what he said he goes i'm a fat fucking was lazy on it and didn't realize it and that's my fault stop blaming him for it he fucking waited for me so i wasn't coming and tried to save my ass by getting over there he is there calm down you're gonna drive gracie to drink i thought and then drive watch out you know what happens after that little gulp gulp beep beep and you're fucking everybody out of the way he's gonna going to kill a teenager tonight.

Come on. Fucking Billy Joel coming through. It's the bad times. You're Armin Gracie with a pint of vodka. Terrible. But enough of that rot. I don't know why we're talking about him. Sorry.

It's fun. No, because it's fun. It's a fun story. So apparently Chuck took batting practice all the time with his dad's team when he was a kid. He would do that. He would field hundreds and hundreds of, like with his dad's team when he was a kid. He would do that. He would field hundreds and hundreds of grounders that his dad would hit.

His dad would just hit him grounder after grounder after grounder. That's awesome. He's a small guy, so he's got to be able to get grounders. Plus fundamentals. You've got to be able to get a ground ball, number one. That's a fun time for dad. Oh, yeah. He's just got to drill balls to the outfield.

That's great. That's great infield, just knocking ground balls out. When he was 10, his father built him a mound in the backyard so he could practice pitching. And Chuck said, quote, I didn't throw hard, but I eventually could throw a pretty decent curve. But he's kind of small. You've got to have a hell of an arm to be a pitcher at 5'8". You've got to be like a Pedro Martinez type. And he's not that type. He's not that type.

Absolutely. He said he was always the smallest kid in class he was very competitive though everybody said and his father was huge into discipline and uh he said that he was so even though he was the smallest kid among kids his age he would play with older kids all the time because he was really good yeah it didn't matter he said quote I was always playing with guys physically stronger and more developed than I was. I always had to fight just to keep up. So he's never like the kid who,

you know that one kid in the Little League who's way better than everybody else and he's romping on shitty kids. That was never him. He was always not that type. He was a shortstop in Little League.

Ozzie Smith was his favorite player. He had posters of Ozzie Smith all over the place and shit like that about him. He said he tried to imitate him. He said, quote, I remember once I heard that he took 200 ground balls a day, so I took exactly 200 grounders, too. Holy shit. So that was his. Is that what Ozzie Smith did?

I guess so. That's what he said back in the day. I believe Ozzie Smith had a junior. Ozzie Smith, yeah. He does have a junior. Yeah, he does have a junior. Yeah, he does have a junior. Well, wait. More developing on that, I'm sure.

Oh, Jesus. No, I don't know. I'm sure there will be, I'm saying. He's a junior, so we can't trust anything that happens there. So Ray Knobloch, his father, was the coach of the Bel Air high school team also from 1961 to 1986. Holy shit, that's 25 years. He's the town's baseball coach uh you know plain and simple god jesus that's a long time that's a long time and his record 598 and 225 it's pretty decent

which is really good for baseball that's like 750 that's goddamn high school oh that's dominant that's dominating he won four state titles in texas which is a big sports state anyway and he was a minor league pitcher and he had an elbow injury, so he became a coach and just played some whatever semi-pro shit on the side and all that kind of crap. That's impressive.

Yeah, more than fucking anyone I know. I don't know. Nobody in my family played in the minors and coached for 25 years. So Ray's coaching philosophy was, he said, to play for me, you must be serious about the game which means always work hard as well as maintaining your intensity and concentration apparently there's a lot of stories about ray doing some crazy coach shit some bear bryant insanity really uh ordering some kid to hit the track after just you know

fucking up a play and telling him not to come back and a quote until i tell you so just keep running for the oh that's the worst indeterminate amount of time which sounds awful in texas just yeah just keep running in the summer and baseball season keep running no i don't know you need a a goal that's attempted murder in arizona that's yeah that is that's i'll get you put away that's 10 to 15 years for that shit right there but uh chuck said that ray he just remembered him being very private he didn't really show any emotion either on the field or at home or he just was like a kind of a stern texas dad yeah he was like you know this is a 60s texas dad he's not going to be all touchy-feely wishy-washy

for the most part and he was an athlete too he wasn't like that even chuck said they the quote for four years we rode together to high school we'd spend the 15 minutes in the car mostly without ever exchanging a word so just that is comfortable they're just silence yeah it sounds great he's just a that sounds great he sounds his dad sounds like a wonderful uber driver i'd like to i'd like to find out his area and hopefully get him because that's that's pretty solid right there i'd like to find out how mr knoblock got that kid to shut the fuck up for five minutes amazing so 15 minutes he's a flat top kind of quiet kid chuck's the same way he's kind of a quiet reserved kind of guy he's a little bit like his dad in a lot of ways when it comes to that type of shit but that's kind of that old timey you know just like yeah

i'd love to go 15 minutes without hearing the phrase no it's not or no i'm not or no you're not yeah no whatever not if i hear that one more time from my back fucking seat i'm gonna drive it off a cliff no it's true it's well these this was a high school kid too so it's a little different you know he's a 15 years old or whatever like my daughter it's i like driving her to school we have fun we have fun talks about shit and conversations and laugh and stuff but like this that seems foreign this is very texas yeah i feel like or just uh uh dad that's not necessarily absent but just unless it's baseball talk to him. He's an old-timey dad. I feel like he's like, it's queer to talk to your kids. You know what I mean?

That's probably what he said. Talk to my kids. Nah, I ain't no queer. Talking to my son. Next thing, I'm going to jerk him off. What the hell else do you want from me? Jeff leans over. Hey, daddy, I'm not gay.

What do you think? Better not take that penis out, boy,, I'm not gay. What do you think? I'm put. Better not. Best not take that penis out, boy, because I will knock it right off of you. Start out talking. Next thing you know, you're sucking each other off.

That's how it works. I know. I've seen movies. That's how I got these kids. That's how I got them all. So, yeah, this is a,

for fear of, uh, for fear of fucking a kid there was no talking yeah his latent homosexuality to keep it at bay no talking i'm done we have no evidence of that whatsoever for all i know his dad spent 25 years around young men and never touched or or or even had any inappropriate anything with him let's say this about his dad. Hysterical thought that that's the reason he didn't talk, though. I will say it is hilarious. We'll leave it at that.

Go on, Ray. It's fucking funny. So, Bel Air, Texas, Bel Air High School is where he plays. And major leaguers from this high school, there's a lot of them. Bubba Crosby, Jose Cruz, who played for 11 years in the league, Jeff Devanin, who played for eight, nine years, Tyler Duffy, Jim Gideon, who played briefly in the 70s, Knobloch, we have Kelly Wunsch, that pitcher,

Chris Young, who played, still playing, I think, 2006, he started, Diamondbacks, and Chris Young. There's a few, there's a couple of Chris Youngs. I don't know. We got a couple Chris Young situations here. You think those two words together create more than one person? I believe probably a lot. The mistaken identities would be deep

with that one. I think there's a country singer too. Yeah, and you'd be surprised how deep they are with this one. I was shocked. I'm like, there's not going to be any more Chuck be any more chuck oh my god there's a lot of them fuck so uh he plays basketball and football in his freshman year also in in high school so he's just playing everything in high school that he can get his hands on but after his freshman year he was all all about baseball i think his dad probably said you're gonna play varsity you gotta be serious and that's all you're gonna play a huge portion of those players that came from that area, his dad coached them.

Oh, yeah, those are all Bel Air. That's bananas. His dad coached every single one of them. That is insane. Well, not every single one of them. Except for the ones that were in the 90s. The ones in the 90s, yeah, the few older ones his dad coached. That's amazing.

So, yeah, the area breeds ballplayers. And the guys on the team are good. It's a really good squad always as we could tell by his father's career record he says chuck says he played he's had a really lot of pressure in high school to be really good and to do everything perfectly because his dad's the coach and a hard-ass coach and he played for him in the 80s so he'd been coaching there 20 years and it was rough he said quote being ray knoblock's son it was always oh he's playing because he's the coach's son so if i screwed up it was open season for everybody to

attack me and uh he also says that included his father because he said uh he wasn't uh he said there you know he would get yelled at for what he did on the field he and uh also for his temperament because chuck was uh chuck scott He's a very fiery guy. He's very fiery. Like they were talking about when he was kids, when he was a kid, he'd play wiffle ball with his brother, Mark. His brother would always kick his ass and wiffle ball. And he would fucking freak out and be like, get back here. You know, you're going to play one more game.

He's very like, yeah, nuts. We don't quit till I win one. He would say, I have to win. I can't do this. So he's one of those guys, which is good for an win one he would say i have to win like i can't do this so he's one of those guys which is good for an athlete i mean you have to have competitiveness so he yeah he said it was his temperament he said quote i was pretty psycho back then i could go nuts with the best of them i mean i just snap sometimes said he'd rant and rave in the dugout uh he's ram his bat into the ground before he'd fling it down the foul line and throw

helmets everywhere which is fantastic yeah i love that yeah i love that in a ball player that doesn't hurt anything as far as i'm concerned that's just a little extra fire yeah and i hate baseball's ruining itself by the way i despise the uh instant replay for the the and i get that you want it to be accurate and all that and i wanted instant replay for a long time but then when you actually do it what it ends up doing is meaning that there's no arguments anymore because the managers just slowly walk out of the dugout and go yeah review it and they go okay and then they have a chat quietly and amicably while they review it and then once the tape comes in he can't really argue about it so he's like all right and he shrugs his shoulders and walks back what the

fuck is that some of the most fun in the last 50 years of baseball have been manager freakouts right you would have remember lloyd mcclendon taking the base and walking away with it in pittsburgh second base fuck you then i'm leaving lou panella throwing his hat at billy martin's epic meltdowns earl weaver turning his hat around and getting people's faces i love that you brought him up because i was after you brought him up i went and watched them all they're fucking amazing. He's fucking crazy. It's great.

Not only his radio show was the greatest thing ever, obviously, from that clip I told everybody to listen to where he tells a lady. The public meltdowns. Tells a middle-aged woman to worry about where her next lay is coming from and not about her fucking tomato plants on public radio. That was pretty good stuff. The pointing in an ump's face and then when the ump says don't touch me and he goes you touched me yeah then they go back and forth about who touched you first amazing it's fucking fantastic that's great shut his cock sucker or some shit yeah shut your cock sucker is what he said which is great to say to an umpire you know you're getting tossed

when he said that's you want to get thrown out when you say shut your cocksucker you're not gonna get away with that not happening you're a miserable son of a bitch and shut your cocksucker that would not exist no without with replay and it hasn't existed ever now started with replay this we'd never have we'd never have that which is so entertaining uh you're i don't know baseball you're always looking for entertainment value in it because it's kind of a slow sport and everything like that. You know what fans always, always cheered for? When a fucking manager shot out of the dugout to run in. That is better than someone hitting a three-run homer to the crowd.

They go nuts. I'd rather see that. They give standing ovation. They fucking love it. That's the best. And you've taken that away. Let's take some of the excitement out of the game. You know what baseball has?

Too much action. That's what it has. Too much. You know what we need? More standing around and conversing, because that's what now you have. Never had enough of that before. I would rather see a manager lose his shit than see a bench-clearing brawl. But when a bench-clearing brawl happens, that comes in second, because those are fucking

great, too. A lot of times they just you know they just dust it off and they grab each other and yell at each other and then the guys know each other half the guys are just talking hey jim what's happening out in the outfield you know what's going on dude yeah i haven't seen you since the minors they're free agency they used to play together for yeah that's what i mean it happens all the time so it's just kind of uh it even happened back in the day jim bouton ball four book. He would talk about whenever there was a brawl, he'd look for someone he knows and he'd pretend to fight with them.

They'd like grab each other by the collar and be like, just, and they go, how's the wife? She's good. How are you, man? You got to come down to Florida this year and they'd be laughing, like trying to stop left. Cause they're doing, they know what they're doing. Like they're just fucking around.

That is brilliant. How great is is that i wonder the greatest that's what goes on in a baseball fight for the most part unless it's like a real heated i love your daughter i love your daughter your wife is a fucking treasure your wife's pie is the best she makes the best appetizers i want to fucking be on the field for that. Every one of your parties is fantastic. Your pool is clean. Your bathrooms are sparkling and your appetizers are on point. My wife and I have been trying to figure out where you got that great couch. Shaking each other.

I want to see it so bad. That would be fucking great. With an angry face. Oh, that'd be great. That's what they were doing. And then they would go, when they'd start laughing, that's when they'd like go down to the ground and act like they were like rolling around fighting so they could hide laughing.

God, it's so good. One time he said in the Jim Bouton book, Ball Four in case you're, it's hilarious. He said an ump came over and was like, yeah, you guys get the hell off each other, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, we're not, we're just blah. And he's like, we're just kidding. And he's like, what the fuck is wrong with you two? That's even worse. You're both out of here for that shit.

The ump was like, I was fine with you fighting. What are you, fucking around on the ground now? What's wrong with you two? The crowd loves it. Yeah, they love it, though. That's what I mean. Let's take that out of the game. Perfect.

Good job, baseball. Let's make this a sporting event where we all smile and shake hands. Fuck that. That's not fun. No, it's bullshit. So that's what they a sporting event where we all smile and shake hands. Yeah. That's not fun. No, it's bullshit. So that's what they're doing. And then the Cubs will win. Yeah.

And take all that away, too. They're making more rules changes to make the game even worse now for next year. I was reading. I was like, this is awful. So anyway, he says, Chuck says that, quote, I've really mellowed over the years. Quote, the anger beats you up mentally and physically, but I still have my moments. Now, in his senior year, he was great in high school. He was really starting to come along and really starting to be a force.

People were looking at him for his senior year. Scouts, colleges, everything like that. He was at a real lot of hype going on for him, Chuck. And then right before the season, he broke his leg for his senior season. Really? Which is a huge bummer. He said that's the only time he ever remembered his dad crying

was when he broke his leg. It's like a racehorse. Yeah. Like he's worked this racehorse. It was born in a stable and he's fucking fed it and then he finally got it at the Kentucky Derby

and he's like, fuck yeah, and on the way to the starting gate he broke his leg. And he's like, I yeah. And on the way to the starting gate, he broke his leg. And he's like, I put everything into this. Ray knows he doesn't have to put him down, right? No, he actually, Ray had to have a rifle physically removed from his hands as he tried to shoot him right in the infield.

He said, I got to put him down. They were like, no, Ray, no. We can set it. He'll be fine. He's like, no, this is Texas. You break your leg, we shoot you. That's it. That's all there is to it.

You're useless after that. If you don't shoot your son with a broken leg, it makes you queer. What, are you going to make me have a conversation with him, too? I'm going to let him live, talk to him. Next thing, I'm definitely going to be sucking him off. There's no, that's A, B, and C, brother. That's it. That's all it is, man C, brother. That's it. That's all it is, man.

Fucking brother. Oh, Jesus. So he misses his entire senior year with a broken leg, which has to be brutal for him. The team still wins the state championship. Oh, shit. So he sat there on the bench watching his team win the state championship. You got to wonder if that's even any good. It's like, oh, fuck.

Couldn't even get in on that. So that year, the June amateur draft comes around in baseball. And the 18th round of the draft, the Phillies draft him. They draft Chuck in the 18th, which is amazing that he hasn't even played since he was a junior. He's 5'8", and they still drafted him in the 18th round, even though he hadn't even played in the year. Do they still have that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's amateur draft.

That's the always draft. It's the June draft. That's a shitload of kids. That's a June draft. Yeah, they draft shitloads of rounds. 18 rounds, and there's still more. Oh, they used to draft 70, 80. I don't remember how.

I think Mike Piazza was like a 63rd round draft pick or something. That's a whole new team. Yeah, Don Mattingly was like a 40-something round draft pick. There's a lot of stars that were later drafted, he does not sign with the phillies no because in baseball you can be eligible for the draft and or go to college so it's better like in football you know you have to either play your senior year or you can't be like i'll see how i do in the draft and then be like i got drafted in the second round i'll go back to college whereas here that would be great it should be about the fucking keep the kids not the teams but obviously then the teams would then lose a draft

pick because he didn't sign well guess what should have done your fucking homework and figured out whether he was going to sign or not because that's what these people do especially that and they weigh it like everything more than any other you can get hurt and be done in a minute so value is so fucking short it's fleeting i believe i had a quite a a hate-filled diatribe of the nfl last week for this horse shit and fuck the nfl that's a banana's thought by the way off the subject the uh aaf yes the uh yeah the a yeah that was great by the way fantastic that was the alliance football league that was fantastic it's so good had a lot of fun watching it in the second series of the game that i watched the first game uh there was a huge hit on the

quarterback that popped his fucking helmet off like a champagne cork and i couldn't have been more i said i'm into this already this is it and they didn't call a penalty on it he hit him hard and nobody said shit the guy got up put his helmet back on, and had another play. And I went, gee, look at that. For the love of fuck. Football. Fuck me. Either play it or don't. I don't know.

But it was good. It was fun. The football was like a tight game. They need quarterbacks. I will say that. They do. Their arms are kind of shitty. That's the thing.

You can tell they're not NFL arms just in the way the balls kind of loop out there. So the defenses are going to have a little bit. It's a little wobbly there's but you get a half decent quarterback in there a washed up guy or a guy who you're gonna get lights out yeah like somebody that's like i don't know like i can't sign in the nfl no one will sign for some reason that you know guy who maybe would have you know gone to a championship game in the nfl i can't imagine who that would be i can't imagine somebody like that out there i'll make a shitload of money and draw a shitload of fans. I would think people would come to see him.

You think? Maybe. So even Johnny Manziel, for Christ's sake. Oh, good Christ. Bring him in there. Who cares? Fucking knock the coke out of his hand and sign him up. Let's go, fucker.

Let's go, dipshit. But they don't pay a lot, though. I think all the guys get paid the same amount and all that. 30 grand. I was happy with the football. I thought it was fine. It was great. It was better than the Super Bowl. Fuck yeah. Every game I it was better than the super bowl fuck yeah every game i saw was better than

the super bowl there was much more exciting plays it was between offense and defense they keep it moving there's no huge commercial timeouts too there's a commercial and then you see split screen of them like you know huddling up to move so good it's it moves quickly the play clocks are less yeah i didn't miss the kickoffs at all, by the way. No? I didn't even care. Not even a little bit? Didn't even give a shit.

I didn't even notice until like the third quarter. I was like, oh yeah, there hasn't been any kickoffs. It makes you wonder why they do that shit, right? Well, now when they put the ball so it's just kicked out of the back of the end zone for a touchback every time, what's the fucking point? Dumb. It's stupid. If you're going to have it so it's a touchback every time because you're afraid to let guys

run with it for injuries, just start it there. Let's not waste the time. So whatever. So he ends up, instead of signing with the Phillies, Chuck goes and plays for Texas A&M University. Oh. Decides to go to college. Yeah. In Texas.

In Texas, yeah. So he's going to go there. He played center field in his freshman year. Okay. But then later on, he becomes an All-America shortstop. So a lot of second basemen start out in the majors, get drafted at shortstop. The best player on lower teams is the short. For the best player, they'll put it shortstop and center field.

So they do that, and then you get to a major league team, and they go, you don't have the arm. Shortstop's a special kind of arm. You don't have that kind of arm, but you're a good fielder, they move you to second base. That's the way it works. So a lot of second basemen,

90% of second basemen were drafted at shortstop. No kidding. Absolutely. And a lot of pitchers even, like Trevor Hoffman was drafted at shortstop. Guys like that, they're just good arms

and that's how it works. That's amazing. I didn't know that. Yeah, so he ends up. Plus, it's like it's an athletic position, that shortstop. Oh, absolutely. You've got to be fast as shit, too. You've got to cover a huge amount of ground and be able to fucking throw a ball.

Wing that bitch. Accurately. It's a really difficult position, shortstop. It's the most demanding when it comes to that. In the infield, in the center field, you have a lot of ground to cover, too. You've got to just be able to run like a deer out there. Different thing. Rather than bursts, you have to be able to go after and plus playing the ball well you got to be able

to know the second it's hit where it's going to land which is kind of hard to do trajectory right now yeah just and it's not a thought thing it's not like a physicist couldn't do it or something like that it's just a it's a instinctual thing some people can do and some people can't. So in college here, his first year, he plays 67 games, 261 at-bats, hits.341. That's great. Not too shabby. Three home runs. He's a little guy. 23 steals.

His coach, the baseball coach there, Mark Johnson, said, quote, he wasn't a real cut-up. He was all business on the field. Even when he came to practice, he had an agenda. He was very self-conscious about his play and always wanted more and more feedback. How's my swing? Did I dip? Am I staying down on the ground balls?

In fact, if there's anything I needed to scold him about, it was that he was working too hard. I was always telling him to relax, to not beat himself up so much. He was his own worst enemy at times. That's the story of Chuck Knob knobloch's life as we'll talk about his baseball career later on and what happens to him it's all in his head and it's all his own whatever the fuck i don't know internal uh his pistons aren't firing right or something there's something off here lenny dykstra no lenny dykstra's just crazy he's this is a different story but lenny's his own worst nightmare you know yeah yeah but this is a different thing. But Lenny's his own worst nightmare. Yeah, but this is a different thing.

He's trying to be too perfect, Chuck Knobloch, and it fucks him up. What? Yeah, he's like this. It's really weird. It's coaches, kids, and it's people that put too much pressure on their kids. A lot of times, this is what happens to them. They're so, I need to be perfect, or my dad's going to yell at me, and I need to do this, or I'm going to get yelled at.

That's their whole life forever. They can never just relax and never have fun. It's just you're in your head. He's got to be perfect. That's very interesting. Yeah, and for him, he always thinks, too, he's small, so he has to be perfect. Yeah. Because if he's, yeah.

If you're. If you fuck up once, I'll put a guy that's normal height in there. If you're 6'5", 220 and athletic, you can fuck up a lot. He'll give you chances. He'll look at you. But you've got to be perfect if you're 5'5", 220 and athletic, you can fuck up a lot. They'll give you chances. Look at you. But you've got to be perfect if you're 5'8". There's a dude 6'5 sitting on the bench right now. Waiting for you to fuck up.

Waiting for you to mess up. Hits.365 in his sophomore year. So does a great job there. This is with aluminum bats, but still not too shabby. Five home runs, 24 steals. So he's consistent. He's playing second base after that. In his junior year, he plays in 63 games, hits.364.

Again, eight home runs, 36 steals for 64 ribbies. So he ups his game a little bit. And then come 1989 in the Major League June draft, that draft was an interesting one here. Ben McDonald, number one number one you remember ben mcdonald's baseball card if you're a baseball card fuck his card if you were a collector in like 1990 if a little kid like i was for some reason ben mcdonald drafted by the orioles his baseball card was touted as this oh it's fucking ben mcdonald and i remember being like

who cares about ben mcdonald but it was like this big deal. Remember some cards were worth a lot right away and then they would come to the majors and suck. Rahi Bishmail? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Rahi Bishmail was a good one. Hensley Muleins would be another one. Guys like that. The wait is over. So far you're not losing.

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How the hell did we get here? Follow WikiHole on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to WikiHole ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Yeah, Ben McDonald, Tyler Houston, second to the the braves a lot of guys that didn't go anywhere frank thomas number seven no kidding overall to the white socks so that's hall of famer right there good for him by the way fuck yeah frank thomas is the man in baseball to stay in one city his whole fucking career didn't he stay in no he went to oakland he went all year at the end but he played in chicago for like 15 years a few years at the end few years yeah he's three four years because

he was dh and so he was just out there he's a d8 he was at the end of his career he's a dh who's a guy who knows how to draw a walk yeah if you're an old guy i don't remember him even playing have a good at bat they'll they'll be able to play uh yeah he played at the end i think for the for the a's there but i mean he was in chicago forever yeah that was just i mean he was there for so goddamn long he was mr white sock you know uh absolutely uh charles johnson the catcher for the shit expos and the orioles bunch of black guy black catcher which you don't find very often for what's his name charles johnson yeah played for the orioles really 90s i always loved him because you don't see

a lot of black catchers I was like fucking awesome I love a black catcher only non-white one I can see is Pudge yeah well there's a lot of the Molinas

Yadier Molinas yeah Benji those guys the Indians yeah yeah yeah no Yadier's a cardinal Molina Yadier Molina's a cardinal

forever I see Molina playing for the Indians though as a catcher Benji's played for all over the place. There's a million Molinas I know. Yeah, there's three Molinas, yeah.

Benji was a Yankee catcher for a while. Can't hit for shit. Yadier's the only one who can hit. So that happens. That's depressing. That is. Number 23 overall, Mo Vaughn goes to the Red Sox. And Mo's a beast.

Mo, I remember growing up because he is from uh near me in new york and he's from trinity pawling uh so he was always in the newspaper like when i was a little kid like anything they had any like local sports section it would be like this mo vaughn guy is you know goes five for five every game and is the greatest high school player in the history of the world and they talked about him a lot. I've met him, and he's a weird fucking dude. He seems like a weird dude, if I'm going to be honest with you. I put stereos in his cars at a car stereo shop when I was 20. And he had an unbelievable car.

I would assume so. A Rentech V12 Mercedes. It was an unbelievable car. It sounded like a goddamn Indy car when you started it. He's a mean mean looking son of a bitch dropped off all these cars to get stereos in them and then he fucking sent this weird stripper girl to pick them up we can't give you this uh we've we've put way too many things in this and these are much more really expensive cars and then mo would call and just be like no i'll give her

the keys are you sure you're positive about this all right this is a hundred thousand dollar car dime chief let's do this thousand dollars of stereo equipment whatever all right he doesn't give a shit going to the chick with the giant titties fuck it here you go bounce on out of here so fuck man this draft like i just remember all the baseball cards in 1990 for when i was a kid i collected a lot in 1990 and i remember all these shitty guys that turned out to be shitty all these cal eldreds and willie greens and alan zinter and all these guys but number 25 overall uh is chuck knoblock drafted by the minnesota twins um out of texas aM. So he's a first round draft pick. A lot of guys,

like we said, baseball is, it's hard to tell. It's hard to project what a guy's going to be. Hard enough in football to go, I've watched this guy

every film, I've watched every tape of every game he's played for four years. I can't tell, in football, it's hard to tell what he's going to do

in four months for you in the league. And that's like not a big jump. In baseball, they have to literally project what's that guy going to do in four months for you in the league. And that's like not a big jump. In baseball, they have to literally project, what's that guy going to be in five years? How the fuck do you do that? That's baseball scouting.

Jadavion Clowney was such a great college football player. He broke through the lines and tackled that running back on national TV, made a huge deal out of it. And then it took him three years in the NFL to make any sort of great play. Because the difference between college and professional is fucking vast. But there are rookies that come into the NFL and make huge impacts. And they're amazing. In baseball, that's non-existent.

It's not a thing. It's very rare. And especially these kids, you're drafting literally like, what's that guy going to be in four years? Not like, what's he going to be in six months? If we get him into camp and get him in the weight room in six months, he could put on 20 pounds and he could be in baseball. It's like, I don't know.

So you had guys second round, Brian Hunter, Tim Salmon was in the third round. He played forever. John Olerud was drafted in the third round. He played forever. Phil Nevin, Denny Nagel, Jeff Bagwell in the fourth round, who hit 500-something home runs. Alan Embry, J.T. Snow in the fifth round. Did you come in with all these guys? Yeah, yeah.

This is this year. J.T. Snow, Paul Quantrill sixth round, Russ Springer seventh round, Sterling Hitchcock ninth round. These are all major leaguers. Kelly Sennett, 11th round. Trevor Hoffman, 11th round. Wow. 290th overall by the reds right guy has 600 saves unbelievable and uh that's you know and all those teams passed on him a million times jim tomei who

has he was a dangerous son of a bitch in the 90s great hitter 13th round by the indians incredible that's a steal that's a steal greg zahn 17th round brian giles who's a steal. That's a steal. Greg Zahn, 17th round. Brian Giles, who's a good player, 17th round. Mark Rudzelanek, real good player, 17th round. Jeff Kent, excellent, on one of the best offensive second basemen ever, 20th round. Un-fucking-believable. Jorge Posada, who is kind of a Yankee legend, a great catcher, rings, caught no-hitters and everything else. He is drafted in the 43rd round 1116th

overall might have the fattest ass for the weirdest but like his yeah he's got a big fat ass and thighs catcher he's got a catcher body he has a he has a hillary clinton body he looks just like hillary clinton who i'm sure played catcher on her high school softball team i'm positive of it if she did anything uh jason giambi 43rd round he didn't sign giambi or pasada they didn't end up signing but they got drafted and came out the next year uh chad curtis in the 45th round this year by the angels so yeah a lot of these uh touching kids in no time oh you know it also uh scott burrell who was a football player was drafted and rodney pete was drafted in the 13th round by the A's as well.

So he says, Chuck says, quote, My father wanted so badly for me to be picked by the Astros. He was really upset about it. I wasn't. I was just happy to be picked by anybody, which I don't blame him. He got a sign for $120,000 bonus, which is big money for a kid in the 80s. And he said he wanted a guarantee from Twins officials that if he played well enough in his first season in the minors,

that he'd be invited to the Major League training camp the following spring to get a shot at the club, just to get a shot there. And the general manager, Andy McPhail, told him, quote, hit 280 and we'll invite you. And his father chimed in and said, quote, make it 300. So, yeah, that's rough. And he's putting his son behind the eight ball even more. The general manager said, quote,

I knew then that this was a kid with the genes of a competitor. Well, yeah, because his father's insane. If that's indeed his father, he's definitely got the genes of a competitor. He's got the genes of something. So, 89, he comes up just that year. He plays in a little A ball. Plays for the Visalia Oaks. Plays for the Kenosha Twins.

So, just some A teams here. Hits 286 in Kenosha. Hits 364 in Visalia. So, not too shabby, actually. That's not bad. Has a good first kind of rookie year uh 1990 is like when it's his first full year with the club this is when he says if he hits well here can he have be invited 1990 he plays for the orlando sun rays every kid's dream yeah it's in double a so bringing

him up right away to double a from there that's they think he's about ready. They really have a lot of confidence in him there. Now, there in Orlando, he hits 289 and 432 at bats. In double A. Two homers. So, not too bad at all. I mean, that's good. 23 steals, 53 ribbies for a leadoff guy.

That's what you want. Not bad. 384 slugging. So, it's okay. Knobloch switched from shortstop to second base in and uh hit 289 now ron garden hire was his minor league manager who ended up being the twins manager forever uh he says that he was uh that chuck was a headstrong player who angered teammates with his intolerance of quote any screw-ups either by himself or his teammates so he said that he pissed his teammates off because he was too much of a perfectionist and he wasn't just out there

having a good time and all that baseball is kind of a loose game and if you just kind of have to be like everybody else or else everyone kind of goes what's his fucking problem benny martinez said in the sandlot it's yeah you're thinking too much try to have fun that's what it is but it's a weird thing you kind of have to like see you, like, back in the day in baseball, all these books, they say, like, if people saw you, like, reading a book, they'd be like, that was, like, a strike against you. Like, I'm just going to read a fucking book. Look at him over here.

Yeah, he thinks he's, what does this guy think? He's Mr. Smart Guy? You think you can learn this shit in a book, kid? Yeah, they'd be like, what, you think it's Mr. Smart Guy? Like, that's what it would be. What are you reading there, asshole? Like, they would, no matter what you're doing, they gonna fuck with you about it it's one it's one of those type of things uh so he ends up uh he ends up getting invited to spring training in 91 he hit

289 so they told him 280 and he hit it so he was a non-roster player there was a uh he had played 187 minor league games which isn't a whole lot to get brought up to the majors but in uh spring training he hits almost 400 and uh he beats out nelson liriano who was a five-year veteran and ends up uh getting a second base job how about that so he he couldn't bring he played his way in there's no way to put him down he's hitting 400 how do you tell a guy he's not going to be on the team you got to take that for what it's worth in baseball because in spring training at least because that's a yeah spring training just pitchers working on different you could have a great uh uh batting absolutely it happens and then get into the into the regular season and it's dog shit oh it happens all the time 400 but they're looking at it like liriano you knew your job was up for grabs you could have hit 400 too you should have hit 410 you should

have hit 410 yeah this guy's hustling uh he finally makes it to the major leagues his whole life this is all his dad never got to play and this is his whole deal he says quote chuck does quote my whole life it was you're too small you'll never make it to the major leagues you'd better stay in school you have people telling you that all that this negative stuff while i was just getting more and more mad i'll show you i'll show you so this is how he does he's an angry little man yeah let's just say i like him he's like i'll show you i'll show you i'll show you good i'll beat the shit out of your knees listen pal all right funniest thing later on you what pal listen buddy he talks about the first time he got a bass hit uh and ran to first base when mcguire was playing first and he just said it was like it was ridiculous he was like this fucking guy's a

massive yeah human being yeah he's a monster it's all meat he's like compared he said he he said his arm is bigger than my leg yes that was his thought when i got the first his arm is bigger than my leg this guy we play the same sport. This is ridiculous. This guy is a fucking. He is clearly superior in the meat department. Thor over here is playing first base, and here I am. I looked at Frank Thomas' career. You know, he played for the Blue Jays, too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Blue Jays went back to the A's. That's right. I thought the fucking guy stayed in Chicago his whole time. I couldn't remember. I knew there was another team. Blue Jays. It was three years, though, from like 2005 to 2008. That's what I mean. End of his career. Nobody couldn't remember. I knew there was another team. Blue Jays. It was three years, though, from 2005 to 2008.

That's the end of his career. Nobody gives a shit. He was just getting at bats. He was a good veteran at bats. From the 90s to 2005 in one city is insane. That's great. It's terrific. It doesn't happen.

No, not at all. Kudos to the Sox for hanging on to him. That's fucking amazing. You want to put a billboard up? Who are you going to put on it? Yeah, that's a good point. Fucking that guy. He's our guy. Not at that point. No. Who are you going to put on it? Yeah, that's a good point. Fucking that guy. Tim Raines? He's our guy.

Not at that point. No. Who are you going to put on? Mark Burley? Well, later on, they probably did. He threw a perfect game at one point, I think. Did he? Yeah, I think so.

For them? When they won the World Series, he was on the team. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you're going to put Frank Thomas on the goddamn team. It's not going to be Ray Durham. No. It's going to be Frank Thomas.

So, the 91 Twins here, managed by Tom Kelly, who's kind of a legendary type of manager, one of those old-timey type guys. This team finishes 95-67. Really? This is a real good team. This is your Kirby Puckett. This is the end of that because they were good in the 80s, Kirby Puckett and Ken Herbeck and Bransky and Gaiety and all those guys. I'm trying to remember other guys other than Puckett on that team.

Yeah, this is Jack Morris on this team going 10 innings in the World Series against the Braves. Just one of the gutsiest performances ever. This is the end of that Twins dynasty from the 80s. Not dynasty, but that good Twins team from the 80s. And then it all fell apart and the Twins went real cheap. Changed their uniforms and tried to make a whole new appearance yeah not those sweet blue jerseys like i have the bly 11 of it's fucking awesome dope one so this year uh they go uh they make the playoffs in the championship series because this is pre-wild

card there's only two rounds uh they play the blue jays and win four games to one over the blue jays who would then go on to win the next two World Series as we know. And then they go to the World Series against the Braves. 91 Braves is Dion. This is a very... This is when the Braves became burst on the scene in national popularity

and they were good for 12 years or so after this and went to all sorts of... This is when everybody in your school had a fucking Braves hat and not one of them had been to atlanta yep this is when they would lose in the playoffs every year and they don't disappoint this year they also lose uh this was a seven game series great series i remember this watching this as a kid it was awesome this was like i said jack morris coming in and throwing a ten inning a ten inning game against against. Awesome stuff. Really, really awesome stuff. So Chuck this year, though, he had a good year, too.

He played in 151 games, not too bad at all. 281 batting average, which is great. 59 walks, 40 strikeouts, so more walks than strikeouts. So that's good for a leadoff hitter. 25 steals. Not too shabby. One homer. 50 RBI.

But he has a great year in the playoffs. He hits.350 and hits.308 in the World Series. Fuck. So phenomenal. And for that, he wins the Rookie of the Year. So he comes up, fought his way over here to get to the majors and wins rookie of the goddamn year. Not too shabby Chuck with a 281 batting average. And he's a fine fielding second baseman, too.

And this is probably the best era of baseball for quite a while. Oh, this is a good era. These 10 years. This is fun. It's really good and fun. Because this is when guys started using steroids. It was fun. The guys were cranking homers.

Shit was impressive. Yeah, shit was impressive. And I'm a big proponent in steroids in baseball. Give me using steroids. It was fun. And the guys were cranking homers. Shit was impressive. Yeah, shit was impressive. And I'm a big proponent in steroids and baseball. Give me those steroids. Let's get that game moving. Steroids and baseball, concussions and football. It's where they belong. Yeah, well, you know what?

Football, you either can have concussions or not have a game. And if you don't want to have a game because it's too dangerous, I understand. That's fine. Shut the fuck down. If you're going to have a game, say, guess what? If you play this game, your brain might be mush. But make sure everyone knows the fucking risks. Be above board.

And also be like, when their brains are mush, we're going to take care of it after that. We're going to pay for medical bills and all that kind of shit. That's all I'm asking for. We made a shitload of money off your brain. Yeah, absolutely. Because, I don't know, boxing's obviously more dangerous. The point is to hit the guy in the fucking head as many times as possible. That's what the point of football was, too.

It used to be, yeah. I mean, it's hit them wherever they fucking can. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just, when you go jumping on a trampoline, you got to sign a fucking waiver. Yeah, everywhere. And these guys aren't just above board about what injury could happen? No, it's crazy. No, they knew forever exactly what was up, and they denied it.

And I can still sue this fucker at the trampoline park. Yeah yeah you still can't hurt i can still sue the fuck out of it's his fault if something happened yeah it's like the ncaa would do for years they tried to uh somebody i remember as a guy i want to say i can't remember what school it was tcu maybe in the 70s a guy uh had a broken neck serious broken neck he paralyzed him a college player and he sued the ncaa for his medical bills because they just said well tough shit for you so you have to go home and pay your medical bills so he sued them for worker workers comp fuck yeah and they said no no you can't have workers comp because you're not an employee they don't pay you you're you're free so that's not a worker so you don't get get worker's comp. Go fuck your mother. He didn't win?

No, they sent him off because the NCAA couldn't have that happen because if he got workman's comp, then a court has ruled that now those are workers. Those are now employees. Now you have to compensate them. You have to treat them like human fucking beings in America, not like fucking slaves. You have to do that. So it's, you know. He can't say that my payment was a fucking education yeah you can't say that that's odd yeah my payment is this thing that doesn't non-tangible thing that is valuable it's like getting a a boat

for your payment yeah and then be like i was paid and he didn't get that education because once he couldn't play he has no more scholarship so that's it for that it for that. He never got a college education to get a degree. It's not like those guys are guaranteed four years no matter what. Hey, even if you get hurt, we keep you for four years, you're allowed to get your degree. Wouldn't that be nice? They cut you if they don't want you anymore. Period.

Fuck off. If you're no good, you're out. Yeah, you get hurt, whatever it is. So Chuck has some hard times here. His father started showing signs of Alzheimer's in 91. Oh, no. Which is rough. He retired from coaching right after Chuck graduated.

That was his last year. 86. 86. And then five years after that, now he's starting to have some problems. They said he would slur his words occasionally and have minor memory losses, which normally they'd be like, was Pop putting a couple back today or what? Dad drinks?

Is Dad drinking in the garage? Papa Ray drinking? They'd be like my grandfather because he always had a bottle of scotch out in the garage. He'd leave fine, go out and dick around in the garage and come in with some minor memory lapses and slurring his words a little bit. And we just figured he had a couple nips off the bottle out there and hid it from my grandmother because she'd yell at him. You went out there drinking Papa, for my grandmother because she'd yell out there drinking papa papa

my grandfather would fucking hide he only he would buy cheap like fucking plastic bottles of scotch because my grandmother would throw them out if she found them she'd pour them down the sink so he'd buy cheap shit anyway yeah exactly so he had a barber shop and he kept the good shit down at the barber shop and he had like, you know, fucking shit, worst bottom feeder shit in the world, gut rot in the garage. Just enough to get buzzed. Yeah. So, not buzzed, shit faced.

So he said it reached the point where he sometimes couldn't get words out at all. So Chuck and his wife at the time, Lisa, took him to the Mayo Clinic for tests. And after doctors ended up removing a piece of his brain for analysis, obviously, like a biopsy, they diagnosed Alzheimer's. He said, quote, my dad worked his whole life to get to where he didn't have to work anymore.

And now he can't even travel and enjoy the rest of his life. It shows you how delicate the brain really is. It's a strange disease. Very strange disease. That's horrible. Yeah. That's the scariest thing in the world. It really is.

To have a body that works and have your brain not working. I don't want that. Is awful. That's got to be fucking terrible. I don't want that at all. No. I would much rather. I'm telling you that being self-aware that I'm dying.

Yeah. I want that. Well, like my grandmother now is 90, and her brain is perfect. I mean, not a fucking thing wrong with it. Her body's falling apart. So she just is so depressed because in her brain she wants to do things, and she's like, I just can't move. She's like, it's fucking terrible.

Every day I feel. I'd rather be there. I'd rather be there than not know where I am. I'm there all day. That even sounds shitty, but it's still at least you are aware of things. I'd rather be the Doc Holliday going, this is funny. Sitting staring at your bootless feet. What are you going to do?

That's what I want. So he says, Chuck keeps it private, though. This is like from an interview later on. He doesn't give a lot of anything. He says, quote, you know, you can't let each and every person in the less information you give out about yourself, the better. I mean, why let someone why let someone know you unless they have to? the only people that need to know me or my family which is great i love i love that quote what do you need all these people for i really care about those people i don't know those people so 92 in minnesota uh 90 and 72 the twins finish which is second in the al west and back

then that would get you not in the playoffs. So they missed the playoffs, even though they have a very good team. Chuck, though, is an all-star this year. So first year rookie of the year, second year all-star, hits.297 with two homers, 56 ribbies. That's great. 88 walks, 34 steals. Top notch. It's.358 slugging,.384 on base.

Goddamn good year. It's paid $325,000 also. Making himself valuable. Making himself valuable. Hustling from that 5'8 position. Makes $325,000, which goes a long way in Minnesota back in the 90s, I think. 1993 with the Twins, this is when it falls apart. They go 71 and 91. Oh, no.

So basically the reverse record of last year uh this is this is tough but chuck chuck is fine he hits 277 two homers 41 ribbies steals 29 bases 65 walks so he's fine yeah but the rest of the team not so much they suck it's the end yeah it's the end of this of this era here uh He makes $510,000, though. So his salary creeps up every year. 1994, the Minnesota Twins here. They finish 53-60. That's the strike-shortened season.

So they don't get to suck for an entire six months. Only about three months of sucking. This is Tom Kelly, still the manager. Chuck's an all-star this year. How about that? Not too shabby. Again, hits 312.

Look at you, Chuckster. 312, five homers, 51 ribbies, leads the league with 45 doubles. No kidding.

Doubles are a huge thing because he's just not a power guy. So he's hitting shots to the gaps that if he was stronger would be home runs. Instead,

they're fucking doubles. That's great. Which are terrific. If you're a're fucking doubles, which are terrific. If you're a leadoff guy, doubles are great. You start with a dude on second? You start on second base. You're already there, man. You need a base hit to score.

You have three outs to get a base hit or even to move him over and get him home. That's a run. Your chances at winning are already up drastically. Your chances of scoring a run in the first inning are very high with that. So, yeah, he's excellent this year. Strikes out a little more often, but I think he just gets more aggressive at the plate. Swings a little more, which raises his average, too. There, he makes $1,625,000 this year.

That's good motivation. Now you're talking. Yeah, he's doing very well. In 1995, he marries Lisa, the aforementioned, that him and Lisa took his father to the Mayo Clinic and all of that. So he's married. He's making a lot of money. He's a pro ball player.

He's an all-star, multiple-time all-star, rookie of the year. Things are going well for Chuck. Very, very well. 95 with the twins. 56 and 88 is their record. Not great. They're really kind of falling apart here, the Twins. He plays a lot of games.

Plays in 136 games. Hits 333. That is top notch right there. 333, not bad. 34 doubles. 11 home runs. Raises his power up a little. So he's definitely swinging more this is why

everybody had his baseball card yeah 63 ribbies 46 steals which is a lot of steals top notch he's uh wins the silver slugger award which is the best hitting second baseman in the league and he's 17th in nvp voting look at this top 20 in the nvp voting too not too shabby and for his excellent on-field effort he earns two million nine hundred eighty seven thousand five hundred dollars damn near three hundred million three just about three million bucks wow that is awesome that's great god damn it that's so cool i'd retire i'd be so gone with that so goodbye no well he's gonna it's gonna get better for him, money-wise. 1996, this team finishes 78-84. So now it's just a losing season after losing season. And it's not going well for them.

The Twins also, their attendance is way down in that shitty dome. That's bad. When that place is empty and you can hear echoes and stuff, that's a depressing game to watch. They need a movie to come out about a kid owning the Twins. a good idea that could turn it all around i'll get people in here actually that seemed to turn it around the opposite way and when that movie came out they fell off the fucking face of the earth that was like 94 right around this time why'd we pick the twins right why shit we could have went with a good team. We could have sunk the A's. Yeah. Fuck. Something. They sucked by then, too.

In August of this season, though, in the midst of a flop season, they know they need to lock Chuck down because he's kind of the signature star of the team at this point. So they sign him to a five-year contract. This is the twins doing this. This is out of character. They're a very cheap team they do not give out big money unless it's like their signature star they'll give money to one guy give money to kirby puckett they'll give money to uh what's his name the fucking catcher forever there joe mauer they'll give money to him uh they'll give uh him they give chuck knoblock a five-year

30 million dollar contract that's fantastic. Now we're talking. Yeah. Six mil a year. Six million a year. And this year, the team sucks, but he plays in 153 games. He hits.341. My Christ. Smoking.

So he went from.277,.312,.333,.341. Every year he gets better. That contract's looking like a good idea. He leads the league with 14 triples that year. 35 doubles, 14 triples, 13 home runs. That's a lot of extra base hits. 72 ribbies,

45 steals, 98 walks, even his eye is getting better. You can't beat him. He's an all-star and he's 16th in MVP voting. Now he's moving up that too. Moving up, he makes $4,670,000. So he's doing well in mvp voting now he's moving up that too moving up he makes four million six hundred seventy thousand dollars so he's doing well fall of 96 though he's tired of this shit he's tired of being a loser is the way he kind of puts it he tells the twins that he wants to

wave his no trade clause and be dealt to a contending team asap get me the fuck out of minnesota he wants a ring he wants out yeah he wants to win and he's tired of losing and he doesn't see he got all the money and they didn't sign anybody else and it's not going to get any better he should know that yeah they were basically giving him money to shut the fuck up and be the guy they put on billboards yeah that's it just be the team guy just we don't doesn't matter you're never going to win be the face of this team it's okay it's fine well not okay with him uh he said quote why would want somebody want to stay here to play believe me there's nothing fun about losing 90 games it makes it

just makes it difficult to go to the ballpark oh i'm sure it is yeah i'm sure it's fucking miserable that's what and he said quote i was just dejected the losing got to me i wasn't handling getting beat uh getting beat up on a pretty consistent basis so uh the problem was uh his agent told the team that and they end up telling the manager tom kelly uh who ends up blabbing this to the media saying this fucking guy wants to get out of here blah blah blah so he he blew up knob block spot yeah and uh it took some heat off of kelly for having five straight losing years probably but uh yeah he said uh said he didn't think. He told the media Knobloch wants out of here because he doesn't think his teammates are good enough.

Oh. Which, that's not exactly what he said. They're not, but that's not the point. That's your fault. Not theirs. Exactly. You guys didn't buy enough good players. That's what that means.

You put this field together. And this field sucks. So they put that all on Knobloch and made a lot of people hate Chuck Knobloch in Minnesota, and so it wasn't fun. Knobloch says, quote, when TK, which is Tom Kelly, made that statement, it was like a seismic shift because he had a lot of control over the organization. I love him. Looking back on everything I do, but I just think people pay attention to what he says,

the people of Minnesota, the fans. And I think that's why there was so much hate or hostility toward me when I came back, which we'll talk about. He probably thought I was abandoning them, but I just wanted to win. I understand. To sit in Minnesota and fucking just sit there and lose every year.

Who wants to do that? That sucks. With no hope. It's not like, well, we got five free agents this year. We got a couple new guys. It's just going to get worse every fucking year. You're going to sit through a Minnesota winner

for that shit to thaw out to go get your ass kicked? Yeah. No, thank you. And it's still going to be cold two months of the baseball season, too. Thank Christ we play inside. Oh, man.

So 1997, the Twins, they don't trade him. It was 96 he made the request. And so 97, he's on the team the whole year. Tom Kelly's still the manager. 68 and 94. That is brutal. That's brutal.

That's a brutal season. Oh, fuck. You almost lose 100 games. That's fucking miserable. That's so bad. Chuck, though, he's fine. He's an All-Star this year. All-Star, wins the Silver Slugger, and why not a gold glove award no kidding wins a gold glove too so best second fielding second baseman in the american

league on a team that wins one game out of three he's the he's the man he's great uh he hits 291 which i mean that's an extra that's a base hit a week so whatever uh he hits 291 but a 390 on base percentage which is pretty goddamn good uh plays 156 games steal 62 bases which is a career high for him he's only caught 10 times out of that which is pretty damn good uh 10 uh 10 triples 26 doubles not a bad uh not a bad year for him nine homers 58 ribbies six million one hundred fifty thousand dollars. So not too goddamn shabby. Taylor Swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans.

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You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So 1998 rolls around. So 1998 rolls around, and finally on February 6th, 1998, the twins ship him out of there and trade him away. They've had enough. Well, he just wants to be traded, and they finally find a taker, and they get a decent deal for him, too. They trade him to the Yankees, who in 1996 won the World Series, 1997 got beat by the Indians in the playoffs,

and were just looking to go over and get push themselves over the top here with a little bit and they needed a leadoff hitter and knob block is a hell of a leadoff hitter exactly what they needed to set the table he's a guy who goes deep in counts he fit he fits them really well and at this point he was a gold glove amazing defensive second and a perfectionist never forget what a good defensive second baseman he is because it's really gonna fall apart in a second here so he's traded from the twins to the yankees for brian buchanan christian guzman eric milton milton and guzman were on the team for years so that's decent danny moda and cash uh so joe tory the yankee manager at the time said quote

chuck had that fire we needed he's a tough player who never takes the safe way out. He does a lot of things to create an attitude. That's what that Yankee team was, too. They were a fiery guy. Paul O'Neill was on that team who would strike out and beat the shit out of the water cooler with a bat until it broke in the dugout. And they were a fiery group. I like that a lot. I do, too.

That was the team that got in that big brawl with the Orioles that time. Armando Benitez, Plunk Bernie Williams, Art martinez in the back and the whole fucking bench is cleared and he saw daryl strawberry throwing eight foot long spider arm punches at people it was fucking awesome that was good stuff coke field punches coke fueled angry punches a tax a tax hole coke-fueled. So Brian Cashman, the general manager of the Yankees, said about Chuck, quote, he is consistently demonstrating the way the game is supposed to be played.

They talked about him being a see and react hitter, which he was. They said he always finds a way to get on base. He'll get a bunt. He'll get a walk. He'll figure it out. He doesn't mind doing the little things to get on base because that's what you're supposed to do as a leadoff hitter. Willie Randolph, who's a great Yankee player for years and then was a coach and a manager of the Mets. Willie, at the time, he was the third base coach for the Yankees.

He said, quote, he's a true leadoff hitter. He's one of the few in baseball who really understand that role. So they got a perfect guy for them. At this point, they're talking about he still calls his parents three times a week from the road. Oh, that's weird. Which is a little odd for a grown man. Nice, but maybe call just on Sundays or something. So he said at one point there was a problem here.

Oh, you know, he might be calling to make sure the dad still knows who he is. Well, that was the thing. He said that he doesn't really, the conversations with his dad don't really go anywhere now. Very reminiscent of his truck ride. I was going to say, it's like driving to school with him. He'll say, you know, how's the weather down there, dad? He'll go, good. Like, it's just, he doesn't have the conversation skills anymore because his brain is deteriorating.

And he said that he only heard, he said at one point on the phone call in 98, his dad broke down and started crying in the middle of the call fuck and he said uh when i broke my leg in high school was the only time i've ever seen him cry before that or heard him cry so he said there's not a there's not his father doesn't really have any good days anymore he said uh he said quote i'm trying to accept it i'm thankful i have the ability to talk to him at all but i see the difference between last year and now if he goes to next level, it will be very hard on me. So understandable. That would be hard on anybody.

Luckily, on the field, things are much different. The 98 Yankees, in my opinion, are at least the greatest team in the last 50 years that ever played. I don't care about the Mariners that one year getting more regular season wins. None of that shit matters. This team would fucking roll you. They were so good. they were just waiting for the playoffs so they could just roll everybody they were so nasty they would wear down pitchers they'd be gone by the fifth inning they would just pummel you and then mariana rivera would come and mop up your bones at the end there's no

runs happening nothing that was they were brutal god damn it that was a good fuck such a good team shit they were good uh they go 114 and 48 in the regular season really which at the time was a record and the mariners i think in 2001 and won like 115 games but the yankees beat them in the playoff so suck it mariners god that's amazing yeah so 114 and 48 absolutely crushing they were fucking nasty just absolutely nasty joe tory managing as we as we know here uh they uh in the division series they swept texas uh three nothing then they beat the indians 4-2 in the al championship series and that was a good indians team that's jim tomey manny ramirez omar viskell that's a that was a murderer's row it's a nasty team what a big nose on that torey, though. Oh, Torrey.

Yeah, yeah. Bananas. Look, I like the way he wore his hat, which was barely touched. The back of it was barely touching atop his head while the front. The brim was pushed. I don't know. He wore the lowest hat, but didn't pull it down. It was just up on top.

It was just sitting on that bizarre nose. Yeah, very rock nose. he rested it on that bizarre nose of his that Fraggle Rock nose Joe Torre was known while he was playing by the other players as like he was the joke of the ugliest guy in the world they'd be like oh Christ if somebody was going out with an ugly girl they'd say I'm leaving the bar I saw so and so leave the bar last night the broad looked like Joe Torre

she was fucking awful that's how they make fun of him hey that chick looked like Joe Torre last night he's known as an ugly bastard they go that year to the World Series against the Padres So they make fun of him. Hey, that chick looked like Jotori last night. He's known as an ugly bastard. He really is. They go that year to the World Series against the Padres. That was a sweep of the Padres. And they thumped him up good.

Scott Brocious was the MVP that year. And Marrera was coming in and mowing him down. Brocious was so good. He was good. He was not good until that year. Really? That year, the Yankees got Brocious, and they got Chuck Knobloch. And Knobloch was supposed to be great, but Brocious was like a.230 hitter that all of a sudden hit.320.

That's weird what steroids will do. It wasn't even that. He was just in a good lineup. You think so? Oh, Brocious looked like somebody's math teacher. He hit like 18 homers. He hit 18 homers and had the body of a math teacher. If he was writing he should

get his money back we'll put it that way if scott brocious was on something he definitely they gave him the wrong shit you don't think that that stuff just enhances uh uh your your muscle reaction and yes but i also think that uh you can't look like a 43 year old math teacher and be on steroids like you have to have some muscle tone if you're on steroids. What if I'm on steroids right now, James? Well, you have bulked up a little bit. And if you don't work out, that's what will happen with steroids. You'll just get bigger.

But he didn't get any bigger. He looked like a dork still. He was just in between Knobloch and somebody good hitting eighth. He was just in a good lineup. That's a good point. He was on a terrible team before that. Chuck has a down year this year. He hits.265,

which is way less than normal. He hits.17 homers, which is his most ever. .64 ribbies, but stolen bases are cut from.62 to.31, so in half. A lot of that is because you have Jeter hitting behind you and he's trying to move you over, so that's understandable. The Yankees

weren't as aggressive on steals..25 doublesples just not the same guy this year uh they said they asked him in an interview uh are you trying too hard to impress the new team is that what's going on and he said quote no i don't need to impress anybody which is uh that's an angry response one way to say it another thing they, are you feeling the pressure of playing in New York? It's a lot of pressure. And he said no. And then he said, quote, I'm a firm believer that all pressure comes from within. If you concentrate on the game, you'll be all right.

My father taught me that. He should know that. So Yankees win the World Series. He's on probably the best team in history and all this shit. He makes $6 million this year. Grace. Grace. Yeah. This is Grace because it goes real bad real fast.

But it's still $6 million. That's like 50 bucks in New York. Yeah, yeah. That ain't nothing. He lived in a one-bedroom apartment with no heat. Right. It's tough. It's tough.

A walk-up on the 14th floor. It's very hard. Yeah, it's very difficult for him to survive. The 99 Yankees finish 98-64 in first place. They beat the Rangers in the AL Division Series. 4-1 beat the Red Sox in the AL Championship. And then swept the Braves 4-0 in the World Series. They lost one game in that playoff.

That's insanity. They knew how to play in the playoffs. They were crushing people. That was the year where against the Braves, I think it was game two of the series. I don't remember. Chad Curtis was the hero of the game. No kidding. Of Crime and Sports alum, Chad Curtis, the kid diddler himself.

Was this the series that he caught the final out to? No, no, no. This was the one where he might have been, but I know he hit a game-winning home run. And they went to interview him after the game. Jim Gray did, and he told Jim Gray to go fuck himself because Jim Gray had been mean to Pete Rose. So he said, me and all the guys aren't going to talk to you because of what you did to Pete Rose.

Have a good one. And he walked away, and I was like, awesome, hell yeah. And I had no idea he was future Diddle Kids. In the name of Christ. In the name of Christ. The power of Christ fingers you. That's not the statement. That's not how it goes, Chuck.

That's not how I heard it. 99, though, is a hard year for Chuck. He hits 292, which is fine. All of the hitting is fine. 18 homers, 68 ribbies, 36 doubles. That's all great. He can't throw to first base anymore. This is when he gets the Steve Sachs disease.

Really? Yeah. He gets routine ground ball to first base anymore. This is when he gets the Steve Sachs disease. Really? This is, yeah, he gets routine ground ball to second base. He'll throw it in the fourth row. No! Can't throw it to first base. Jimmy, it was the weirdest thing you ever want to see. It's a mental thing.

It's just a mental. What is that? It's a mental block. It happened to Steve Sachs, the Dodger second baseman for years. He just couldn't do it. He went through a period where he just couldn't throw it to first. And there's catchers that have had this problem. Mackie sasser couldn't throw it to the pitcher and it's happened to guys it's a mental thing they can't do it bizarre because guys like knob block and saxon have the same thing he could make a diving play in the hole get up fire went over right on

target no problem easy ground ball for throw or way off to the side or knob block would get this thing where he couldn't throw it he'd go to throw it and he'd like pump pump it like three times like he'd go to throw and go no no that's not gonna work shit and then he would put it in don't put it in the state dude this season i saw a game in anaheim i went to a game and it happened to him in this game and it was the most fucked up thing to watch happen live it happened he did he fucked up like two three times and he just couldn't do it man he it came to him and he pump faked it like three times and ended up like lobbing it like a basketball like literally like you would shoot a basketball like he

lobbed it in the air to try to get it to first and the guy beat out the throw because it was a fucking he's a lob he just does this little lob to first base because he couldn't he didn't want to throw it in the fifth row that's amazing that was it was it was the weirdest fucking thing ever and it was you never knew when it was going to happen yeah he'd go for a week where it was chuck he cleaned all good clean ground balls he did it well and then all of a sudden one day fucking three errors he couldn't throw it to first yeah so guys are trying to hit it to him because put the pressure on and make him throw it away. It was brutal, man. Is that considered an error?

If he pump fakes and then lobs it and they get on base? Yeah, he should have been an out. That's an error. If it's a routine grounder, that's an error. It's the same thing as if he held it and let the guy run to first. It's an error. So yeah, that's an error. He has 26 errors in 1999. He goes from being gold glove two years ago to having 26

errors and most of them are throwing there it's like you know 23 of them are throwing errors and it was dude it was so ugly to watch it really was to watch a man fall apart like that for no good reason yeah just his own brain not working anymore and you'd see him he looks so frustrated he'd stand

there and you have his hands on his hips and you'd see him fucking red face and he'd be like I know how to fucking in your head you could see the conversation he's having but then i know how to do this yeah i've done this 700 million times in my fucking day but in the pick it up and throw it back of his mind he's got my dad's brain is disappearing is it happening to me too i don't even think it's that i think he's got if it happens once it's in there happened to rick ankeel remember rick ankeel was a great for the for the cardinals he's still he's a really good up-and-coming pitcher big fireball guy having a great time couple years he was great all of a sudden he couldn't throw a strike and i don't

mean couldn't throw a strike i mean he would throw it six feet over the catcher's head no shit he would throw it five feet wide of the catcher 95 miles an hour which you can't do that's dangerous yeah but that's seeing that happen then yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That's exactly what the fuck I would do. But that guy knows how to not do that. He just couldn't throw a strike. He knew how to throw it. He knew how to do it, but he would just throw it way off.

He couldn't do it. It's a mental problem. As a spectator, I'd watch that and be like, yeah, that makes sense. Oh, I saw that live, too. I saw that live, too, at a Diamondbacks game when he melted down. I was like, oh, my God. But Ankeel, they sent him down to the minors to try to get. He never came back.

He ended up switching to be an outfielder and became a pretty good offensive hitting outfielder. Brutal. Rick Ankele. But most guys don't come back from this Yip thing. The only guy that I know of that really came back and reestablished his career was Steve Sachs. He ended up coming back playing for the Yankees and never had another problem again. But, I mean, that's probably a psychiatrist and everything else because it's all mental that's there's nothing about it that you can't do it's the easiest thing in the world anybody could

fucking do it and just lost their lost their shit that's so weird so uh not only does he is his career falling apart and his dad is dying but he gets a divorce from his wife this year too lisa can't take any more of this shit dude Dude, this is bad. Your dad's gone. Your career, you can't even throw anymore. The one thing that you could do is field a baseball and throw it to first base. That's failing you now. And now your wife's leaving you and your dad's dying. Shit is deteriorating around this guy.

Fast. Fast. In 2000, the Yankees go 87-74, which is good for first place. They beat the A's 3-2 in the championship series, or in the division series. They beat the Mariners 4-2 in the championship series. And then they have the subway series with the Mets, where they beat the Mets there four games to one.

Even worse throwing problems this year. Really? It's way worse. It's so bad. Playoffs too? Well, we'll talk about it. Yeah, he was a fucking liability, man. You couldn't have him out there. Gee, this was so bad uh playoffs too uh all the time well we'll talk about yeah he he was a he was a fucking uh liability man you couldn't have him out there uh he gee this was so bad he had a throw uh at yankee

stadium that he threw over tino martinez's head and into the stands and it hit keith olbermann's mother in the face no way uh put keith olbermann's elderly mother in the hospital oh jesus with a baseball uh yes if you don't know keith olberbermann, he was a sports broadcaster and a news guy and all this shit. Turned himself into a weirdo. Who the hell knows? But Chuck Knobloch's throw was so bad, he hit Keith Olbermann's mother in the face and put her in the hospital, which is awful. When Keith Olbermann was a trusted sports resource. Which he's a great sports guy.

Christ, if he sticks to sports, he's fantastic. He's great uh now also in may of this year he he jesus christ he uh he he makes a throwing error and after the game he suggested that he he would quit baseball if he couldn't conquer the problem he was so frustrated he was just he was talking out in the open about it he couldn't even just he couldn't be like that'll be fine tomorrow anymore because it's like a year and a half he said quote i don't need this. I'm not out here for the money. I'm out here to have fun.

I don't need the money and I don't need this. And they said, well, are you pretty? They asked him if he was close to his breaking point. And he said, pretty close. I'm ready to snap. If I hit Bob Costas' mom next week, it's over. If I hit anybody's grandma, this is fucking, I'm over this shit. On June 16th of that year, he threw away three balls in the first six innings.

No. Three throwing errors into the stands in the first six innings of the game. I want one of those balls. That's right. Yeah, that'd be great. That would be a great one. Eric Ball. So the problem is the Yankees are making a pitching change in the sixth inning.

So, you know, all the infielders come and gather around the mound. Knobloch didn't go. He just stood at second base with his hands on his hips, kicking the dirt, doing that error infielder kick the dirt thing. Just fucking melting down on his own. So they ended up coming in. They end up coming in and the end of the inning comes, which is a ground ball to Jeter. Now Block does his thing, goes back into the dugout, and ends up talking to Torrey for a minute,

and then Block just leaves. He takes off. He just leaves. He leaves, goes in the dugout, gets his street clothes on, fucking leaves the stadium in the middle of the game. Just pulls himself out of the game. Bye. I don't have Torrey.

I'm not in it today. He melted down uh tory kind of protected him a little bit uh he says that once they got all by the way he fucking ripped up the clubhouse too he broke a bunch of shit and broke chairs and tables yeah he fucking snapped and left the clubhouse he didn't know what to do anymore i think the other team put like dan rathers grandma on one side i think so yeah the corpse of walter cronkite somewhere not even his mom just the he's in like a glass case flying in state in the outfield you broke cronkite's glass case you asshole they have babe ruth's entombment out there and everything jesus christ that would be brilliant knoblock apparently told Torrey that he was hurting the team, and Torrey said he cut off Knobloch and told him to relax

and you can avoid the reporters after the game and all that, and so Knobloch just took off. Torrey said, quote, I hope he sleeps on it and realizes the most important thing is that everybody here is on his side, and we all want him to feel better about this thing. Jeter said, Derek Jeter said, it's a tough situation situation but you've got to support people when they're up and when they're down the ball up the middle was was a tough play and he made it look easier by getting there and the double play that's the hardest thing in baseball so to be honest with you i think he

only made one bad throw today which is fair uh david cone says we all hope he doesn't make a rash decision under stress or emotion which is also fair too they're saying we just don't want him to quit and walk away and or you know go blow his fucking brains out so what does chuck say about this whole thing because this is interesting let's get it in their own words on this what do you say let's find out what chuck has to say about this in their own words quote something obviously went wrong but i have no idea what it is i couldn't overcome it i got idea what it is. I couldn't overcome it. I got to thinking too much and I couldn't shut it off. It was bright lights, big city, and I was having

the serious issue in front of millions of people and I had to wake up every day and face it. And I faced it. If you care so much about something, it's hard not to make it a life and a death thing. I feel like I went to New York as a boy and I left as a man because I went through the ringer. He had a tough time, man, and the fans

got on him. If he made a throw to first base, the bleachers would give him a standing ovation. So it was like one of those things. So even when he made the throw, he couldn't just be like a routine thing, go around the horn and relax. They'd give him a standing ovation and make him think, oh, he couldn't even just get

in the routine anymore. Every throw was under the microscope it got way out of hand i'd have had brian gumbel's wife there i had felicia everybody who's got a mother put him in the front fucking row actually about three back because i really i'm off today pretty bad got him really up there deep put him in the 13th row just line him up god damn he does be hilarious it would be fucking great. He does make $6 million and hit.283 that year, which isn't terrible. Five homers, 26 ribbies, which isn't great.

102 games he played in that year, so he had some issues. 2001 Yankee season, 95-65, they finished first. They beat the A's 3-2 in the division series. That was the most, that Jeter play that he made that was like the most amazing defensive play ever where the ball was like off the first baseline and he shot into the picture and grabbed it and flipped it to Posada quick and Posada tagged the guy who was scoring

in a 1-0 game. I don't recall. It's the best play in the history of baseball. And I hate to say this, but it's probably one of the most heads-up defensive plays in the history history of baseball the throw is off from an outfielder and jeter comes from across the field and just fucking grab and one motion grabs it and flips it to pasada with the glove with no glove to hand just flips it to pasada who tags out a runner who was didn't even slide because he didn't think he the throw was off so he thought he was fine and he was just

running and jeter comes in the picture and never should have been there. He just, really weird thing. Then they beat the Mariners 4-1. That was the Mariner team that beat their record for regular season wins. They shut them down 4-1. And then they go to lose to the Diamondbacks in one of the most painful things I've ever seen in my life. That whole series, that was a disaster. That was a big fuck you to New York in 2001 when they needed it.

Oh, those guys were fucking exhausted. Yeah. Like, fuck you to New York in 2001 when they needed it. Oh, those guys were fucking exhausted. Yeah. Like, the Diamondbacks didn't have to do shit. No. Like, 9-11 affected them zero. That gave them extra time off is what they had. These guys are still clearing their lungs. Not only that, whenever they're in New York, they didn't just play baseball and then go sit on their asses.

They had to go to hospitals and go visit fire. Like, they were the big PR thing. Like, they were constantly doing fucking charity shit and then they'd have to go play and then the diamondbacks were sitting on their fat asses fucking kurt schilling sitting on his fat ass talking shit oh god i can't stand him so fucking much that team got george bush to put on a yankees jacket for christ's sake yeah no shit they deserved it and the Diamondbacks robbed them. Fucking ridiculous, man. Fucking ridiculous.

Chuck is moved to left field this year. Really? His whole life he's played infield since his sophomore year in college, and now they move him to left field because he doesn't have to make that throw. And Olbermann's mom, her face says he's got an arm. This was when Alfonso Soriano came up to play second base. He was a goddamn great player, a good hitter. During a game in Minnesota, they returned to the Metrodome.

He goes back home to Minnesota here in 2001. Not home, but his old team. He goes out to left field, and the fans start fucking harassing him. Really? Oh, that's the benefit of outfield. If you play in the outfield, they can go after you. Second base, nobody can do shit. So they talked shit to him for a while, yelled things.

Then they started throwing shit at him. Oh, no. Hot dogs, beer bottles, quarters. They start pelting him with shit. So much so that the game is stopped, and it's fucking crazy. Tom Kelly went into left field, the manager, to plead with the fans to say, please stop doing this shit like the manager of the twins said please jesus christ kept his job that whole time yes somehow and he uh

and he also said that uh like he he walked out there with knob block at one point to like you know don't throw shit at both of us chuck chuck yeah the fans uh it was crazy so much so the umpires threatened to declare a forfeit that's how fucking out of hand they got uh they finally they ended up throwing out over 50 people out of the game it was crazy tom kelly said uh it was a terrific game and in my mind it was ruined hopefully they can clean it up around here so it's minnesota is the last place you'd expect this to happen yeah this is the they're so nice the cubs didn't even throw out people for pouring beer on that dude no you know what i mean i can't believe they actually threw people out it was either that

or they were gonna have to forfeit the game yeah literally they said well so much for minnesota nice that's what i'm saying it's fucking weird and on the and they were going back to yankee stadium the next week so the twins got players were all like hey stop they're gonna throw shit at us now what the fuck tory hunter said quote it's going to be a death trap for us so yeah um at one point uh knob block joked because they said uh there was a couple beach balls you know that end up landing on the warning track usually the players will go hit them back in and they said you knew better than to go get the beach balls and he said yeah i wasn't in the mood for any beer so he knew he'd get beer poured on him uh he said even after this i won't say anything bad about the city it's probably a bunch of 16 year olds who don't have a clue who chuck knoblock is

which maybe then later or it's 30 year old dudes that wish they could have played baseball exactly who you are exactly who you are you're weak and they're going to try to fuck with you now and you're 5'8 and you're 5'8 yeah that's the other thing which is 6'3 fat he probably still kicked their asses though he. He's a fucking athlete. And he's an angry little guy, too. He'll fucking punch you. He said, quote, it hurt. I mean, I'm human.

I can't even give you any details. It was like an out-of-body experience. That's the part of my life that's like, really? It really meant that much? You're trying to hurt me, knowingly throwing a quarter or a marble or something at me? It's twisted. It made me bitter about Minnesota, definitely. It is fucking twisted get over it you're it's a fucking game relax the fuck do you care this guy wanted to leave five years ago jesus christ assholes uh so 2001 for the yankees he only

hit 250 the throwing problems just moved to left field he's just a different guy wasn't the same guy anymore he wasn't even hitting leadoff. He was down in the order sometimes. It was a mess. Nine homers, 44 ribbies, 38 steals, which is good. He got his legs back. Six million dollars that he makes. And now he's a free agent.

Free agent. So the Yankees let him go. They're about done with him. He signs with the Kansasansas city royals on december 18 2001 uh so he plays in 2002 with the royals uh they go 62 and 100 so oh if he thought it was bad in fucking minnesota he just played in the world series every year he was in new york yeah he won three in a row and then lost the fourth and then goes and loses 100 games. That's a wow.

That is a tough life. Way different. So 2002 Royals. Yeah, just goddamn awful. Nobody there to 13th of 14th in the American League in attendance. Only only 1.3 million fans over 82 games. Wow. That's brutal, man.

Or 81 games. That's brutal. What is the average? You want to get three million. Three million is a great year. They got less than half of that. That's like 12,000 people a game. That's terrible. That's so bad.

Chuck, this year, he hits 210 over 80 games. 210. That's fucking brutal. Six homers, 22 ribbies, 19 steals. Just not the same guy. He's done. That is his last year in the majors. So over his career, though, he's a 289 lifetime hitter, which is pretty damn good.

407 stolen bases. 98 homers. 615 ribbies. Not terrible. A really strong. Respectable. If it wasn't for those throwing problems, you'd go, man, that's people who remember him as a great player. Not just, is that the short guy who couldn't throw to first base that the short guy who hurt keith elberman's

mom uh he makes two million dollars this year though uh and so for his career he makes about 42 million dollars that is fantastic not bad for a 5-8 kid from texas nobody expected him to make that kind of money ever uh he hooks up with a woman named Stacy at this point. Yeah. Doesn't marry her, but in Texas, those common law laws are thick. That can ruin you. So she ends up being a common law wife. Yeah.

So I guess he marries Stacy, we'll say at this point. We've got with her. 2005, they have a son. So he has his first son. Name? Uh-huh. Jack. Oh. Hey. hey hey how about that no junior yeah does not perpetuate a bad cycle so good for him jack you're gonna be jack knoblock

that is uh that's a car dealership that is jack knoblock ford come on down to jack knoblock ford we're gonna put you in an f-150 you're gonna love it extended cab you bet crew cab no problem the biggest payload in the entire category whatever the fuck it is yeah i don't know we've got we got all the fucking selection we've got all of them we got everything we got everything from lariats to the king ramp oh my goodness eddie bauer edition remember those in the 90s like why do they have eddie bauer cars the ford lightning and the old fart clothes guy and that and the uh harley davidson truck oh what is that get the fuck out of here stop it stop stop being dicks just make a ford pickup truck you fucking assholes it's more douchey

than dicky right yeah well there's nothing on that that looks like a harley it's a fucking pickup truck logo on there and it comes with a truck right and it comes with a bike that was the other thing did it come with a bike yeah okay it was a truck and a bike no yeah it was a truck and a bike but they charge you an extra 25 grand for the bikes it's not like you just bought a truck and a bike they just happen to put them in the same package together and make the truck sort of look like the bike the most they'd have the paint job match and shit black and has the fucking chrome shit all over it dumb so the ford lightning pickup truck is the biggest fucking joke ever it was fast as shit but that's not what a pickup truck is that's really a pickup truck is big yeah it's not a can you carry a bunch of shit really fast in it because

i think that's the point i will get i will move with you carry eight landscapers at 95 miles an hour in the back? Because that seems to be out here what I see trucks are used for. Think of trucks are used because your friend needs you to help them move. Or that. And I'm going to fill you full of pizza and beer, and then you're going to do 95 down the freeway? Let's do this shit. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, my God.

So December of 2007, he's been retired for five years. The Mitchell report comes out. Do you remember what that is? No. That was the whole report on steroids and baseball. And it was a huge. Fuck yeah. This document, I fucking read a lot of it for this episode.

It's everybody. It's so much information. It was so much. At one point, I was like, I can't read all this anymore. I couldn't. It's so much. The list of people alone is ridiculous. It's hundreds of pages, this whole thing. It's so much. At one point, I was like, I can't read all this anymore. I couldn't. It's so much. The list of people alone is ridiculous. It's hundreds of pages, this whole thing.

It's a lot. Now, according to this report, we'll narrow it down. Knobloch and teammates at the time, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettit, were all customers of Clemens' personal trainer, Brian McNamee. Now, this is funny because Clemens totally denied it and called him every fucking name in the book. And then this guy sued Clemens for slander on everything when it came out that Clemens was fucking lying the whole time. So Pettit right away admitted to taking HGH.

He said, yeah, I took it. Yeah, I took it for an injury and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. While Clemens instead was Mr. I never fucking touched a thing. You're liars. He's a liar. They did all that rather than just everybody who just said, yeah, I did it. It was whatever. Everybody got over that shit.

Remember Giambi coming out and going, did it? You know how long that fervor lasted? About an hour because he was just like, yeah, I know it's stupid. I shouldn't have done it. They were like, yeah. He's like, yep, that's it. There's no denying it. He didn't catch him.

All the fervor ended as soon as one guy said, I didn't do it. All those guys, who cares what they did? This guy's saying he didn't do it, so we know he fucking did it. That's what I mean. So it was so fucking stupid. And Knobloch, through this whole thing, nobody, like Pettit said he did it. Everybody who was named in this had made a statement, except for Knobloch, because Knobloch's named in it, too, and he just he's gone man he has no interest in baseball he's not

heard from at all uh they this whole this whole fucking thing there's multiple incidents just a quick run through of this report of uh i remember uh steroids found in a player's car in boston who was like uh there was a whole deal there there There was another one, steroids in a Marlins player locker. Shipments to the Arizona Diamondbacks clubhouse in September of 2000. Look at that. Weird. Weird. Canadian border seizure of steroids in Toronto of October 2001.

A lot of these would be like a player's entourage. Guy would get busted, but you're 5 5'10 you weigh 160 pounds and your buddy is playing in the major leagues and is 220 a solid muscle i'm wondering who's taking those steroids you got there so uh i wonder why uh luis gonzalez uh uh hit like 68 hit 57 after hitting 21 and then the next year down to 18 yeah that's that's bizarre pretty obvious what was going on there for anybody from anyone from 98 to 2005 that had any aberration in stats that's what it was yeah uh also a bull a bullpen catcher admitted to supplying steroids to eight major league players uh steroid shipments rafael palmeriro's positive drug test after he pointed at congressmen

and said, I've never taken, how dare you, and all that shit. Jason Grimsley, he's the big one. He admitted human growth hormone use in 2006, and he told on a lot of people, Jason Grimsley. Absolutely. Which is weird because he's also a good teammate. There's a story of him at one point. A player was accused of having a corked bat. So he snuck through the ventilation system into the umpire room to steal the bat out so the guy wouldn't get in trouble.

So he wouldn't get caught. Yeah. It came out years later that it was Grimsley that did it. That guy is a nice man. That's a teammate right there. He literally went through the ventilation system and lowered himself from the ceiling to steal a bat yeah he crawled in like fucking awesome boondock saints to steal a bat that's like cartoon shit he's like bruce willis and diehard he's crawling around with those shoes he was very crumbin it oh absolutely uh also then the balco whole thing and the balco

grand jury and all of that deal the greg anderson stuff with balco which is when mo von got caught that's when yeah all those guys got caught then all anybody all the west coast guys got caught that was a fucking heartbreaker too because as strange as mo was and he came in in that sling he was like i'll be all right no time flat and then when this came out i was like he's gonna be all right no time flat because he's got some deer antler and some clear clearing the cream sitting in his closet. The deer antler, I think that's legal still. Is that the one that was legal? Yeah, it's just some stupid horseshit spray.

Bullshit. Yeah, McGuire going, I just took Andro. Did you now? Okay. Wow, why does it only work for you? Right. I was sitting in the corner chewing on an elk. Yeah, that's all right.

Is that what healed you? Yeah, I had him in a headlock. Also, a guy named Kurt Radomski, who was employed by the Mets. He was a guy who distributed the steroids to somebody else who would then distribute them to the players here. They said Knobloch paid this Radomski, who was a former assistant strength coach for HGH, and HGH would be supplied by Brian McNamee, the personal trainer for a bunch of Yankees, including Clemens Pettit and Knobloch. Got it.

He was the guy who would give it out. And also, he gave checks to Jason Grimsley. Jason Grimsley was like a middleman. Okay. He was distributing. But he wasn't selling. No, no, no. He was just like, we all want some,

so we'll all go in on it together type of thing guy i know a guy yeah i know a guy which technically is selling i guess uh also mcnamee told the uh mitchell told mitchell that he got the hgh from radomski for knob block in 2001 and injected knob block with hgh himself himself yeah the guy injected him uh radomski ended up pleading guilty to distributing steroids and laundering money uh now also right after this all comes out chuck is up for the hall of fame which he wasn't going to get in anyway but uh definitely burner though definitely not to get going to get in uh up for hall of fame he receives 0.2 percent of the vote so uh he got a vote he got a vote he talks about being named in the report he says he wasn't

angry uh but he was uh you know he said quote i have nothing to defend i have nothing to hide at the same time he described the mitchell report as quote crazy and interesting and added that what actually bothered him about being mentioned in the report is that quote i've got nothing to do with any of that i mean baseball and i don't want anything to do with baseball. I love baseball, but I'm not trying to get a job in baseball. I don't have any friends in baseball. Baseball doesn't control my life anymore. So he's basically saying, yeah, I don't really care what they're saying I did six years ago

and something I don't do anymore. It really doesn't affect me at all. Forty million dollars are gone. Go fuck yourselves is what he's saying. Nobody likes me anyway. Everybody I hide because everybody fucking makes fun of me. I got hit with a hot dog. Yeah.

Let's talk about that. I put Keith Olbermann's mom in the hospital. You understand that? I'm the only guy to ever injure a sportscaster's mother during a game. It's never happened before. Keith Olbermann's mom paid a copay because of me. Because of me. That's all that I did.

Yeah. So they asked chuck about there's a hearing on the mitchell report a federal hearing and uh they asked him about it because they've talked about you know he's going to have to appear and testify and chuck says quote i read my name in the paper and i see it in the news but i haven't heard a word i'm supposed to be somewhere but uh but i haven't been told where to be so they asked him if he would talk to the committee and he said yeah if i have to do that then what are you going to do? Like, yeah, they fucking subpoena me.

It's a federal committee. I guess I have to do it. Now, the chief of the staff for the committee said the panel has left multiple telephone messages for Knobloch to invite him to the hearing. And he's going, I haven't heard anything. I don't know. They said, are you mad about it? He said, mad about it? No.

You know what? One of my strongest characteristics is not really caring what people think. I'm living my life. It's not going to change my life one way or the other. You know I'm not trying to get into the Hall of Fame. I got one vote, though. He got one vote. He did get one.

He did get one vote. He did ask the reporter. His only request was, please don't tell anybody where I live. That's nice. He's very private. He's like, dude, leave me the... Come on. How did you get this place? Yeah. How did you find me? Don't tell anyone where i live that's nice he's very private he's like dude leave me the come on like how did you get this place yeah how'd you find me don't tell anyone else fuck out of here don't tell another person yeah they asked him about his hobbies he said he's too busy for hobbies because he has a three-year-old son and that's all he does he says he owns a condo

in houston and a home outside the city and that's all he would really say so then they subpoena chuck uh to testify that he uh they but they couldn't find him they said they hadn't tracked him down even though federal marshals were trying to serve him a subpoena because it's a house panel investigation it's fucking congress you have to go this is what we spent money on this is yeah we had marshals running around the country looking for chuck knobloch so stupid yeah he wants nothing to do with it never have got involved in steroids we don't care don't care fucking ridiculous that's ridiculous get involved with shit that matters so this post 9-11 mind you yeah yeah osama bin laden is traipsing around the world i still have to

take my fucking shoes off at the airport now but fucking knob block they have money for federal marshals unbelievable unreal so stupid so so knob block here he's trying to they're they're trying to track him down. He eventually, when they didn't hear from him, they issued a subpoena for him. And they were looking for him, could never find him, even though Clemens and 80 other people had been served subpoenas on this whole thing. Then at some point, Chuck just changed his mind and contacts the committee. Really? Yeah, because he was clearly trying not to be found.

Okay. And then he ended up contacting them and going and going all right when do you need me and they said quote we are pleased that mr nablok has agreed to voluntarily participate in a transcribed interview or deposition with the committee uh they withdrew the subpoena from that because he said he would do it and then he ended up going in and apparently he had to be honest it's a deposition so he went in and you know was honest and uh he had nothing to hide at that point because he didn't give a shit. And it's over. What do you care?

Yeah, at that point. Later in 2008, Chuck and Stacy begin to have problems, and they have to begin divorce proceedings because in Texas, if you're common law, you have to legally get separated and divorced. That's fucked up. It's fucking weird. That's weird. Very crazy. So he It's fucking weird. That's weird. Very crazy. So he's having problems there. He's got the Mitchell Report.

Things were quiet for a long time. Now he's got this up his ass, and now he's having problems. And it gets worse on September 29, 2009, when police are called to the Knobloch home. Oh, boy. This is not good. A Houston police officer, a Rebecca Sosa, stated that Knobloch's wife, Stacy, told told her that Knobloch had, quote, struck her with his hand on the face and then choked her with his hand by applying pressure to his neck with his hand, causing her pain. Right. So he choked her. He punched and choked her is what happened here. happened here uh harris county prosecutor carrie allen told the judge that knob block assaulted his wife after an argument after uh he had been drinking heavily and taking xanax at the same time

and a family friend witnessed the uh witness chuck uh beat and punch and choke his wife so there's a witness there too so he did this in front of somebody he's taking xanax and he has energy to fight yeah i don't know xanax and booze yeah he's angry yeah i don't somebody. He's taking Xanax and he has energy to fight? Yeah, I don't know. Xanax and booze. He's angry. Yeah, I don't think that's not usually. Xanax isn't usually fighting words.

That's sleepy time. Yeah, it's sleepy time, relaxy time. But you know you've kind of gone over the deep end when you're not only abusing somebody, that's over the deep end, but you'll do it in front of somebody. That's when you've really fucking lost your mind. You've done it a lot already. Yeah, you forgot someone was there and you snapped. Right.

Apparently, Knobloch returned from his girlfriend's house. Oh, boy. Home. So and began arguing with his wife. Wonder why. This is crazy. So apparently, Stacy was trying to take his car keys away from him when this happened. She tried to take his car keys and he hit her and choked her uh the family friends saw this and uh the the prosecutor said quote because she was

fearful of him driving she kept the keys because he was wasted yeah and and quote and he assaulted her by striking her and choking her yeah so she tried to do the henry hill you're not going out tonight and throw the keys out the window in the front yard. God damn it, Karen. God damn it, Karen. I'm still going to go out. That's exactly how he said it. So instead, Karen didn't, Henry Hill only, the mobster didn't beat his wife at that point

where Chuck chose a more violent path than a gangster. I'm struggling with why people do that i like you know that that's gonna make them fucking insane oh yeah stay away from the keys stay away i realize you could be saving somebody's life i think that's the thing if the guy's wasting he's gonna go out and drive and she's trying to not only probably save his life but possibly somebody else's she's trying to do a good thing and he needs to fucking realize he's wasted and not drive, you dummy. You fucking asshole.

A lunatic like that. Yeah, I guess you should. You're sacrificing yourself for society's safety? This can't be the first time this happened. No. In front of a person too.

I just don't see it. She's had a black eye before from him. So Chuck faces third degree felony charges for choking a family member because they made a law in Texas that year that made it an extra felony to choke somebody because that's you know you could kill them for choking a family

member could land him up to two to ten years in prison uh and a ten thousand dollar fine uh so yeah new felony law at september 1st 2009 that was which was he just made it yeah a month earlier and it's not a felony so a judge rules that that he cannot have any contact with stacy as a condition of bail it's a hundred thousand dollar bail he pays ten thousand dollar bond uh he cannot uh email call text or stalk his wife which you really shouldn't need to legally decree anyway that's like saying no killing anyone there's already a law for that one there's already a law don't do that uh not allowed to do that while charges are pending uh the law requires so yeah texas law requires couples who are common law married to have formal divorce to legally separate that's awful which is crazy uh now he's i don't

know what's going on with the kid if he can see his kid at that point or whatever. His attorney here, silver haired, middle aged white man extraordinaire named Don Codgel. Codgel will always call out these assholes. Cogdell, Cogdell, Cockdell. He called the incident. This is an asshole. A dispute between two divorcing people and said the charges were not necessary or appropriate. Wow. I don't care if they're two people that

were starting a fucking ice cream stand together. You can't punch and choke each other. I mean, that's what he's paid to say, but that's a really fucking... It's hard to say that in public. Yeah, how do you say that out loud? Yeah, he said, quote, it's a rough time for both of them, and we hope to get this behind us as quickly as we can.

We're sure it's all going to work out in his favor when it's all said and done. I hope he just wrote that in a press release and didn't actually have to verbalize that. Wow. Charges are necessary or appropriate. Wow. So in a private thing, Knobloch tells a friend of his that he'll tell a story. He said it never got reported, his story.

He said it was a shouting and a shove and that's all it was uh but he says publicly he'll be content to let the verdict speak for himself he says for itself he says quote i'm comfortable with myself and as long as my family knows the truth i don't really care what the neighbor who i don't talk to thinks because apparently that's who was called the neighbor yeah because i know who i am uh that's who was there. That's who called the cops? The neighbor, yeah. Because I know who I am. I know what kind of heart I have. So that's what he's saying. March 16, 2010, charges are reduced in this. They drop the felony part of it.

And he pleads guilty to misdemeanor assault on his wife here. He enters the guilty plea in exchange for divert adjudication probation. guilty plea in exchange for divert adjudication probation now it's a one-year probation and successful completion of that means the uh the assault would be expunged from his record yeah so it will be totally gone he's like a kid who fucked up once but instead he's an adult who beat his wife so it's not really the same it's crazy he's also fined a thousand dollars woohoo they go they go light on on uh it's weird they go light on spousal beating yeah but uh in texas they're strange they're real hard on common law man oh fuck yeah that's hardcore that's crazy wow so 2011 chuck gets remarried uh he met or not to her he marries uh sherry yeah a woman here

uh they have a daughter together pretty pretty quickly uh in 2011 they have a daughter uh named charlie yeah uh the twins end up hosting damn near a junior it's almost a junior well it's a l-e-i-g-h whatever but it's still pretty close to chuck it's too close to charles way too close to his name is edward yeah so there's that that's a good but it's still no good it's still named after no good it's still named after him uh No good. It's still named after him. The twins in 2011 hosted a 20-year reunion of the 1991 World Championship team, and only five players weren't there. Steve Bedrosian, Carl Willis, Shane Mack, the dead Kirby Puckett, who really couldn't

make it, and Chuck Knobloch does not attend as well. Afraid of the hot dogs and beer? I think he's, no. Also, Chuck's wife was eight months pregnant at the time. Oh, there you go. And he said heading north was not an option, but he said even he wasn't sure what he would have done without his wife being pregnant.

He said he was uncomfortable, and he thought the attention of the reunion, he called it embarrassing to him, and he said, quote i don't know what the reception would have been to be honest with you uh what it what if i what if i took my kids with me out there and i get booed by a whole stadium what do i say to them that was my biggest fear which makes sense why does everyone hate you dad oh i don't know i didn't want to lose a hundred games a year that's why like fuck. What I would have said to my own kids is, you know that nice house we got?

That's why they're pissed. This is why. We went somewhere else, and daddy has three rings. See these rings all over my fingers? Yeah. See my whole handful of rings? He says, they ask him about the Mitchell Report again, and he says, quote, I didn't care about the Mitchell Report.

I was out of baseball. I did HGH. It didn't help me out. It didn't make me any better, which it didn't. It may have ruined him. It didn'tGH. It didn't help me out. It didn't make me any better, which it didn't. It may have ruined him. It didn't hurt. It didn't help him at all. He's got a good case for it ruining him.

Yeah, hitting it just fucked him up. Yeah. He said, I had the worst years of my career from a batting average standpoint, and I got hurt. So there was no good that came out of it for me. It was not a performance enhancing for me. So Keith Olbermann's mom. Yeah.

Well, he wasn't on steroids yet. Oh, not yet? No, this is 2001. He was trying to do something and he said to those were his worst offensive years because he just he wasn't the same guy he wasn't he's a guy who lays the bat on the wall you don't need steroids for that it's just you need to be in a good state of mind he was doing that just fine without it he's not a power guy so it doesn't matter uh now this is really weird they go in this article they talk about there's a condo that he owns and in the condo there's boxes everywhere uh boxes line the walls and he told the real estate agent he gave her the keys and everything said yes sell this and he said it's all just junk just toss all that junk just get rid of it um she opened one of the

boxes and on top in the box was a gold glove this is all his baseball shit he just doesn't even care about it he said throw it all he said throw all that junk out it's just all junk give me a call chuck i'll clean it out gloves is you know all his stuff his trophies is there a yip ball in there things in there i'm sure there is uh his wife said quote he doesn't like a lot of shine on him at all he probably hasn't even been through that stuff it's probably just been there from when it got sent there. It's never been unloaded from the box. Unbelievable.

He just has all his baseball stuff is just in boxes. He called it junk and said, fucking toss. It doesn't give two shits about it. Gold glove. Like, that's the thing that made you a millionaire. I don't get that. You don't care about it. It doesn't matter.

You did something. Even the money. You did something. Well, I know who you are, Chuck. Because about it. Well, it doesn't matter. It's just you did something. Even the money, you did something well. I know who you are, Chuck, because of this. Well, like Rod had awards. And I remember he had the Relief Man of the Year, which is a big golden baseball glove. The Rolaids Relief Man, the best reliever in the league. He had one of those.

And he had that prominently displayed in his living room. Fuck yeah. He had the Major League Baseball Comeback Player of the Year Award for 2003. He had that right in the middle of his living room on a table. He had those two things set out because he was proud of them. He loves baseball. And he loves baseball. And his walls had all jerseys of guys he liked.

And he had a couple of old seats from when they remodeled Wrigley Field. Oh, that's awesome. He had seats from like 1908, those tiny little... Yeah, flippers. Yeah, he had those in his living room. Incredible. It was fucking awesome. Yeah. His pool table, it wasn't felt. He ate those tiny little... Yeah, flippers. Yeah, he had those in his living room. Incredible. It was fucking awesome.

His pool table, it wasn't felt. The felt on it was a picture of a 1998 Cubs game. Unbelievable. And you can see him in the bullpen down there. Unbelievable. It's pretty fucking cool. And Chuck's got that shit in boxes. Chuck just said, fuck it, who cares? Super weird.

2012, Chuck and his new wife file for divorce. So that doesn't go real well for him. That didn't go well at all. 2014, in July, the twins announced that Chuck will be put into the Twins Hall of Fame. So they're going to re-embrace Chuck Knobloch and, you know, Twins Hall of Fame. So he's going to go in there. He's got to be very proud and then july 23rd 2014 uh chuck's wife sherry here still his wife uh ends up telling police back with police

again she tells the police that chuck grew angry when she chose to sleep uh with her child in another bedroom chuck grew very angry he ended up uh assaulting sherry uh leaving a large bruise on her arm a larger scratch on the left side of her face and a knot on her forehead uh because he allegedly grabbed her and smashed her head against the wall and then threw a humidifier at her and hit her with it so he literally honest He was angry before you decided to sleep in the other room. Yeah, and that's just something... You wanted to sleep

in the other room because he was angry. They were having a fight and then you said, I'm leaving, and then he said, no, you're not. And he fucking grabbed her

by the back of the head, slammed her forehead into the wall, which is a crazy wrestling move, and then threw a fucking humidifier at her, which is a pretty big move here. They live in Texas.

It's humid. Is it full of water? It's in Texas. It's always full of water. Jesus. You know how sticky it is down there? This here they live in texas it's humid is it full of water it's in texas it's always full of water jesus you know how sticky it is down there this is in july in texas jesus it's a humidifier so it's got to be full of water otherwise it wouldn't work right it's not even a dehumidifier so uh yeah this is fucking terrible he's arrested again uh again he's a hundred thousand dollar bond this time he knew better than to choke this time though and uh he's a $100,000 bond this time. He knew better than to choke this time, though. And he's released on a $10,000 bond. And now he's like, what the fuck do I do now?

Because he's starting to be re-embraced by, you know, just society in general. And people are forgetting about the throwing. And they're like, oh, that poor Chuck Knobloch. Let's put him in this Hall of Fame. People are asking him to be on things. And now all of a sudden he does this. And he's like, now what the fuck am I supposed to do i was going to get back into baseball maybe have some kind of career again maybe i can coach or maybe i can you know his dad was a coach he's

very much into it i'm sure he loves the game itself still he wants to coach he doesn't know what to do he's fucking lost man he's lost at this point getting out of jail uh he goes home and it's weird because that reporter's the only guy who knows where he lives, and he must have given the address out. He must have, because there's a knock on the door, and it's not who he expects at all. It's Vince McMahon, chairman of the WWE.

Jesus Christ. And he says... says. How is it you've come to arrive here? What the hell is wrong with you, pal? Look at you. Look at you. You're pathetic. This is terrible. Look at you. You know what? It's alright.

I'm gonna make you a champion. You're gonna come work for me? I'm gonna make you a champion. You're gonna be a modern day hillbilly. You're from Texas. You know all about it. We're going to have you come down to the ring in an F-150. It's going to have mud all over it, all dirty like you've been, I don't know, doing whatever the shit people do with cows. I don't know what the fuck people do in the middle of this country. Badges all over it with chew spit dripping down your overalls. Yes, overalls. By the way, here's a pair of overalls. Put them on and take your shirt off for God's sake.

Jesus Christ, pal. Take your shirt off. The hell is wrong with you? Get your shirt on. Shirt off. Overalls on. Dip in your mouth and get in that F-150, pal. I'm going to make you a champion.

Let's go. And poof, in a puff of brain damage and steroid needles he's gone holy christ chuck is very he doesn't know what's going on that was fun vince is gonna have new careers for people based on their life and i think it's gonna be a fun character for us so chuck's very confused man linkedin what is that he's looking around he's very very confused about this take your shirt off pal the hell is wrong with you uh july 24th the day after he's accused of assaulting his ex-wife uh the twins say never mind uh you're not in the hall of fame anymore canceled him out of that that's okay you're good. Life punching the second time. It's funny. No, thanks.

We changed our minds. November 2014, he tweets some crazy shit. He says, quote, you know what? Let's pay tribute to all the drunk drivers in the world. All the domestic violent offenders. Yes, me. Is the nation sad? What the fuck does that mean?

And then a little while later, he tweets, quote, we are all sad stories. I'm guilty. That's it. I will never be guilty of drunk driving. It's sad like everything else, but fucking stand. I don't know what that means. Which one is worse, Chuck, a drunk driver or a wife beater? Apparently, he thinks drunk driving. He says, I might beat my wife, but I'll never be guilty of drunk driving.

Well, you would have been if your wife didn't't right if your wife didn't throw the keys out uh then he says a little later he tweets quote up and take responsibility done cry no more tears i stand up it's my fault is he writing a rock lyric i don't know what the fuck he's doing it's a haiku maybe possibly the osborne songs if you put them all together it's like three haikus i think is how it works ozzy osbourne songs in response somebody some uh somebody on twitter tweeted quote how drunk are you right now lol yeah he responded i'm not asshole which i thought was completely humorless honestly i mean that's a great great rebuttal it's a group yeah how drunk are you right now see you say that and get called i feel bad for you you're the one who sounded like an

asshole i mean sorry you tweeted that shit i just asked how drunk are you i feel bad for this asshole and his wife on a scale of judge to billy joel how drunk are you right exactly fuck man he was right this guy guy, not Chuck. So I feel bad for him. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Chuck Knobloch, operations manager at Source at HOV Statement Solutions in Des Moines, Iowa. Chuck Knobloch, president at Bright Star Care of Shepherdsville, Kentucky. It's a hospital place.

Bright Star Care of Shepherdsville, Kentucky. It's a hospital place. Chuck Knobloch of Knobloch Insurance Services, the owner. Here at Knobloch Insurance Service, we stand firm on the 23-plus years of experience in the insurance industry. Not a wife-beating bad thrower. All of these could possibly be Chuck Knobloch. Chuck Knobloch, director of operations for some restaurants in Chicago here. And finally, Chuck Knobloch, CFO. And this is actually our Chuck Knobloch.

Chuck Knobloch, who's now going as a CFO of MADDtalent.com at Mad Talent. He's the CFO and COO also at Charlie Inc. which is his daughter's name. How much does he hate drunk drivers that he named his shit Mothers Against Drunk Driving the same thing? It's so weird. What is he doing? I don't know what the fuck his deal is but he yes he says he's the CFO of a financial

services company and lists his education as Texas A&M. This is our guy. Wow. In the greater Houston area. August 18th, 2018, Knobloch returns to Yankee Stadium for the 20-year 1998 championship team celebration. He arrives with two black eyes. What?

He goes out on the field. I remember this. He had two fucking... It looks like someone just beat the shit out of him. Amazing. He had two black eyes. Not explained at all. Not a word about it.

Wouldn't say what it was about. I'm fine. Don't worry about it. His new wife is bigger than him. I don't understand what's happening. Currently, he runs Knobloch Baseball. It says, quote, on the website, Chuck Knobloch began Knobloch Baseball with the goal of elevating each player's game with knowledgeable coaching and instruction along with competitive gameplay.

All coaches have college and or pro ball experience. so he's running like a baseball camp here uh so that's what he's doing with the kids yeah he's got a financial services company and he runs a baseball camp and uh chuck here he says about his whole life and about his whole career he says quote i was five eight you know i had to have that uh it had to be kind of nasty kind of down and dirty i'm not going to apologize for playing hard and being cocky i was a little punk out there with all these monsters i left it on the field i wanted to be the best i could be and i think i did that that's why i don't have any regrets how about you probably besides beating your wife right that's gonna be a there be an apology that needs to be maybe yeah i'll

go into those two girls for baseball no no uh can't get enough of chuck knoblock holy shit uh you can follow these that have had an ass full you could follow him on twitter yeah at chuck knoblock very simply has 56 700 followers which is not bad he follows almost 40 000 people too he's that guy he's tweeted 24 000 times so he tweets quite a lot uh his you know heading here is losing is not an option two exclamation points all caps so girl uh yeah and he lists his link here of mad talent.com uh yes so chuck knob block is there now uh also on ebay you can get 1994 starting lineup figure. It's a cool one.

There's a bunch of them on there. This one's pretty cool, and it's cheap, too. It's him throwing, like jump throwing at second, like turning a double play with a little metal bar from second base up to his knee. It's awesome. $5.18 with 322 shipping. That's fantastic. The last thing that old woman's mom saw. Exactly.

And then, boom. And then a band of stitches, both on a baseball and in a doctor's hand. Chuck Knobloch autographed ball, certified, $36.91 with free shipping. Not bad. Not bad at all. And also, an Orlando, the minor league team he was on, Orlando minor league game-worn full uniform. A sun-raised uniform pants

jersey everything i want that signed by chuck knoblock not 999.95 with three ships i might sell something i'll give you 50 bucks for it i don't know i might sell i'll give you 100 game worn that's pretty fucking cool game worn minor league oh it will absolutely fit you if anyone buys that for jimmy if you're crazy i will go as chuck knoblock for halloween if you have more money than sense jimmy will wear that to a live show and then i will darken both my eyes yes absolutely will you wear that to a crime and sports live show knoblock uniform with black eyes there you go so that's what that is uh also amazing that's the best shit it's awesome black eyes that i will bloody my knuckles that's it how's it gonna carry

humidifier around with you throw balls at old women carry a little pouch of baseballs just to chuck at old women there you go but if you hit them on purpose then i guess it's bad i'll miss them there you go well aim for something else. Go, hey, catch, and then throw to an old lady five feet away from him. Also, you can get Knobloch baseball fan gear at the Knobloch baseball site. Okay. So shirts are red, white, and blue, long sleeve and short sleeve in sizes large to 3XL, and fitted hats in red and blue, $25 each. We will flood Twitter with pictures of me until Knobloch responds and calls me an asshole.

That would be amazing. Holy shit. You fucking asshole. Sitting around in his jersey. With two black eyes. With two black eyes. Doing a live show. Too bad not at him.

No. On him. That would be the only thing that would be better. That would be amazing you get to wear a chuck knoblock oh fuck so everybody that is chuck knoblock yeah uh that is the mess that is chuck knoblock's life and what it's become yeah uh and uh now now we've got that out of the way the episode that's important but now we step into something different everybody the pageantry yes you've heard of it with Grammys were the other night.

That was terrible. Obviously, the Grammys are ridiculous. Any award show that tells Cardi B she's good at something is fucking completely irrelevant, obviously. Right? I mean, they're stupid. There's the Oscars, the Pulitzers, the Nobel Prize, where people do things for world peace and physics. Pale in comparison to the pageantry, the importance,

the glitter, and the glamour of the Scummy Awards! Alright, now that we got that fancy music out of the way. Don't you feel fancy? I'm going to straighten my bow tie. Is it straight, Jimmy? It's good. It is.

Now, the Scummy Awards, as you may or may not know, are voted on by a distinguished panel. I mean, this panel is really some of the top names in both sports, business, some influencers just in life. In actuality, it is myself and my two dogs, Frankie and Benny, at approximately 3 o'clock in the morning. So it's a little bit different. Joe Rule didn't get a vote? He did not get a vote at all. So they did. And Frankie, she's a tough one.

She's a tough judge. So you never know here. First award here first award here, goes to the But Not Nearly As Bad As award. This is the award for the person we feel most bad for. For the name that's hardest to match, they have that name, and they're the most fucked. They're the most non-Google-able

because everything is the other person. Everything shows up a terrible monster. This one, I was shocked that this was on there. It was Maddy Nykanen, who's a supervisor at Nokia in Finland. And also a psychopathic skier who's on a North Korean

postage stamp and who died recently. Right? Was that two weeks ago or something? He died. So that's... And pussy's always on his mind. Pussy's always on his mind. What are you thinking as you fly through the air at 100 miles an hour on skis 50 feet above the ground? Pussy.

Pussy's always on my mind. Pussy's always on my mind. So Matty Nykanen, you poor bastard at Nokia in Finland. I guarantee he's never said anything as iconic as that for no no one has jesus christ next we have the golden gilretha award this is again most of the awards are there's a you know three nominations and we pick but these are two that are like achievement awards we just give these out these the uh not nearly as bad and the golden Golden Gilretha is to the woman who, most against her own interests and even that of society's, still stand by their man. Blind support.

Against all logic, science, anything. They just stand by their morals. It doesn't matter. This year's award can only go to one person. That is Tamika Smith, who is Travis Smith's wife, who even after he not only cheated on her with a million girls around the world in Canada and the US, but gave them HIV and was having sex with her unprotected with HIV without fucking telling her. And she still stayed with him. That's right. And stood by him in court and talk shit about the other girls who he was infecting with hiv tamika smith golden gilretha award goes

to you there was no competition yeah there was a couple who were like yeah whatever that no competition she takes the aids cake wow the aids cake is right next we have now we get into the awards where there's competitions this is uh i have a new one too new category this year you're gonna like every year i add one i'm gonna add one here and there first up the skip bayless award for the biggest fucking liar of anybody we've dealt with in the past year because uh skip bayless is a liar whose only talent is arguing with black people on television you know and making me want to punch him in the forehead somebody recently sent me this some clips of him of his new web thing that he does with fucking infuriating with with uh uh the kevin hart they sit in ice tubs and then no he picked another black guy that's all he does he goes from one to another he went from another station he went to fox and he's like i need a

fucking black guy i don't have stephen a smith anymore i guess get me shannon and he's like, I need a fucking black guy. I don't have Stephen A. Smith anymore. I guess get me Shannon Sharp. It's like, what the fuck is it about this guy arguing with black people? It's his favorite. And he's never right. No. Never. Never. Never right.

It should be Skip Bell's losing arguments to black people. That should be the name of the fucking show. He's wrong. Arguing with Stephen A. Smith. Fucking asshole. Yeah. Who's a complete tool. Yeah.

He's a tool. Shannon Sharp is smart. He's going to fucking rip you. So the Skip Bayless Award for the biggest liar goes to, let's see here, number one, Travis Smith, previously mentioned, who went around the world, around at least North America, having sex with women, lying to them, leading double lives. He had multiple women who he thought were their fiancée, and he was actually having sex with bunches of different women,

giving them HIV and everything else. It's crazy. Number two, Josh the Fluke Grisby, MMA fighter who blamed his violence and domestic violence on ghosts in the house. I don't remember that. He blamed supernatural forces for his domestic violence on ghosts in the house. I don't remember that. He blamed supernatural forces for his domestic violence. He said he wouldn't have beat his wife up, but the ghosts made him. That's a liar.

I'm sorry. Is that the fellow with the... No, that was Mayhem. Yeah, yeah. With the guns in the Tupperware. Yeah, yeah. It was a different story. I don't remember this one.

God damn it. Yeah, the spirits told him that the house was haunted, and his wife even she was all show up for the golden gilretha award because she backed this thing she stood by the ghost made my husband beat me jesus which is that was a i mean if trevis smith wasn't spreading hiv i would say fine but if he was just fucking a bunch of girls that's a different crispy wins yeah his wife and finally. Yeah, his wife. And finally, Bob Probert. Yes. Who, after there's cocaine found in his underwear, he said, that's not mine. That was when we made the rule, anything in your underwear, that's yours.

That's yours. Doesn't matter what happened. You should know this inventory of your underpants. You should always have stock of the inventory of your underwear at all times. Sorry. Winner here, if we get a drum roll, winner, Bob Probert. Absolutely. It was in his underwear.

That's a huge lie. I'm sorry. You can't get a bigger liar than that. I just pulled this out of your ball sack, not mine. Okay. Someone sneak it into your nut sack. I oftentimes store my friend's shit in there yeah that's how it happens here uh new award we have a new category this year this is the most apt

nickname award this is the nickname that most fits the person given to this nickname so we always have these nicknames and some of them are right on the money yeah uh number one is adrian the problem broner that is a pretty good nickname for him because you'd see him and you go this guy's a problem he's a real problem he is he's the problem as a matter of fact jake the snake roberts he's a slithery snaky lying scumming drinking boozing drugging yoga doing motherfucker and finally roy the weasel james who was a part of a huge train robbery and shot his father-in-law he's done a lot here so those are great nicknames all around this category this is a good one i was impressed with this myself i was happy to come up with this one

winner of this category drum roll uh adrian the problem brauner yes adrian gets an award tonight i was hoping he'd walk away with something. Because if he didn't, he'd cause a complete... Thank you, Adrian. No, no, Adrian. You'll get your awards after the show, Adrian. Sit down. The hard thing about these awards is to have all of these people here.

It's dangerous for us. And they get angry when they don't win. Well, we didn't want to give one to Bob in memoriam. That's the problem. He gets... Well, his wife's here to accept on his behalf thank you very much for that yeah thank you uh yeah here's you can put that on his grave that's fine good deal yeah she's gonna put it on his grave so that's good uh next award is the top

silver-haired middle-aged white man award oh jesus uh number one and every year coveted every year it's a coveted award they people they're really they're trying for it in every sport in every part of the world every continent everywhere uh number one and he's been nominated every year uh bob arum yeah the biggest scumbag in boxing by far responsible for much robbery and brain damage i'm sure uh number two, Eric Bischoff of WCW Wrestling for putting up with Scott Hall while he was drinking and getting arrested all the time. So much so that instead of getting rid of him or sending him to rehab for the 400th time, they just used his drinking as a storyline.

As a reason for him to be wobbly. Yeah. Well, if you're going to be drunk anyway, let's just tell everyone you're drunk and that's part of the story and they won't believe you're drunk. That's what they did. So, nice job fucking taking a man and ruining him.

Way to enable, dickhead. Yep, and finally, Bob Geigel, who you might not remember, we learned about him in the Bob Sweetan episode. He ran a territory of wrestling where he employed

Grizzly Smith and Bob Sweetan and was asked, he actually had to stop running, sending Grizzly Smith and Bob Sweetan. Oh, Jesus. And was asked, he actually had to stop running, sending Grizzly Smith, because Grizzly Smith was a road agent. He had to stop sending him to a town because the sheriff there said, if you send him there, I'm going to arrest him because he was molesting girls there. Not only that, this isn't like an out-of-the-left-field thing.

Grizzly Smith is a known molester and jake the snake roberts came from grizzly grizzly smith molesting his mother at 14 years old but instead he still kept him employed uh winner here by far hands down bob geiger absolutely keeping a known molester on staff good work sir and enabling enabling a molester to go around to and jim ross talked about this in his book it's Enabling a molester to go around to, and Jim Ross talked about this in his book, it's so dangerous. He enabled him to go around to these towns. It's the same towns every week.

So the kids and everybody, they know where the wrestlers stay. So they go to the hotels to get a glimpse and get an autograph and all that shit. Give them a good schedule of when they'll be there. And then he comes in and swoops in. It's the same ones all the time. Disgusting. God, Jesus. If there was more info on Grizzly Smith, I'd love to do an episode on him.

I wish he was still alive. Oh, so do I. What a piece of shit. Love to give him a call. Love to give him a call. Let's give him a little ring-a-ding-ding here. Hey, old man, let's chat. Let's have a chat here.

Now, dumbest scumbag. This is just the stupidest. For natural, unnatural, decision-making, doesn't matter here. This is just your actions show how dumb you are. First off, John Daly, who just did the stupidest shit ever I could think of. Just like the Hooters parking lots. Just a dumb shit. Just dumb.

Everything he does, you go, why are you doing that, stupid? He goes out of his way to fuck it up you know uh second jose canseco yeah he's oh my god is he who is fun and i don't know if he's crazy or stupid or what it is a little a bit it's a little bit of both or delusional number three and this is a deep cut here brian taylor yeah uh yankees had a pitcher drafted had the world at his feet and and instead of pitching for the yankees he decided to drafted had the world at his feet and and instead of pitching for the yankees he decided to hang out in trailer parks and get in fights and ruin his shoulder that's right which is pretty fucking stupid he fought somebody for his brother for his brother outside

of a trailer in north carolina awful and and ruined his shoulder forever what a complete fucking idiot which one's the dumb and then got busted for drugs later on. Winner here. Drum roll. Jose can say it now. I'm going to give it to him. Number one, because he's still going. Yeah. He's still being stupid.

His actions speak louder than the words he can't spell. That's most recently claiming to be able to live 150 years. How? We don't know. Did he reveal it finally? He said the secret to a long life and life longevity is to sleep in below freezing temperatures. What? Yeah, that's the secret.

What? That's how you do it. No. You get hypothermia unless you put a bunch of shit on and then you're not sleeping in below freezing temperatures. You're sleeping in whatever temperature you make your body. That's the secret to a very short life, Jose. I'm so happy he fucking

he won this competition because I didn't even know that and that takes the cake of anything else he's done and also telling us that aliens are teaching us time travel even though we haven't talked to any aliens and yeah, we won't listen. You know how it goes. They're just bad, bad, blah, blah, blah. Aliens are always squawking in your ear. And he to be like the chief of of uh space force or some shit

like that he wants to talk to fucking insane he's out of his mind lunatic uh longest fall from grace is the next category here and this was a tough one because we had uh nobody there was a few obvious ones first up we're gonna go tanya harding yeah in a different way because she wasn't wealthy when she fell from grace but she was beloved she was a household name and thought of as like a pixie basically thought of as this perfect little thing and then she turns from that into this violent white trash hubcap throwing chain smoking fucking hot sauce slinging lunatic so uh number two we have john daly who went from being a super wealthy champion of everything to just not even being able to fit in his golf pants he's like he's a fat tin cup he's

a fat tin cup and third hollywood henderson oh okay uh was that this year uh that was this year that was this year yes it was Hollywood Henderson now winner yeah it was gonna be Hollywood yeah but he is disqualified because for winning the lottery later on

so he fell from grace yeah high grace you know face fucking an invalid in a forcible face fucking that's right that's falling far

from being in the Super Bowl and all of that but you win the lottery a couple times. You're disqualified. I'm sorry. So the runner-up is going to take it.

Tanya Harding. Sorry. No one was that beloved and turned into someone who everyone not only laughed at, but also kind of disliked. Yeah. And then she took like, now she has like a nine to five. Yeah. Now she's sitting on her porch while people take pictures of her smoking cigarettes, wearing Mickey Mouse slippers. Drinking coffee. Drinking coffee.

Drinking coffee like everybody else. Number, this award here is the Cracked Egg Award for the most brain damage. Oh. For the most brain damage. This is a new one last year. Just for brain damage. Just for brain damage. This isn't for stupidity.

This is for actual brain damage. Cracked Egg Award. Number one here, Josh Grisby yeah uh for claiming that uh spirits told him to beat his wife up right uh number two bob probert yes for lots of reasons if you just listen to the episode there's so many reasons he was brain damaged as fuck he was he had some issues number three adrian the problem broner there's no proof he has brain damage but he has to have what the fuck else causes that? It's pretty evident. It's pretty evident.

But we're going to give the winner here Josh Crispy. Josh Crispy wins another with the spirits telling him to do horrible things. Now, we have most likely to have a second Crime and Sports episode. So much crime. Number one here, Tammy Sitch. Sunny. Because she keeps going she goes through periods of a mess yeah and i i haven't seen her doing any ddp yoga or anything you know my favorite part about her story is that so when we ended she was in prison and she was

supposed to be getting out soon yeah yeah and there was like a uh an instagram page up and she was like answering shit so we've assumed she was out. She was definitely not out. That was somebody else running that. There were several pages. It's crazy. And then she just recently got out. She's right back to the whole like pay to watch me fuck myself. Yeah, that's what I mean. She's going to be back. She's back. I have a strong

contender for another episode. Number second, Adrian Broner. Yes, he's out. He just got he was in another fight. He's still getting his brains knocked down. He's just lost a fight and he's still a lunatic he's still crazy acting out and getting paid money so he's gonna act crazy screaming fighting for the hood and money into the toilet remember look i even shit 20s and then a fucking popeyes chicken bathroom it was fucking nuts so he is he's out there and number three we haven't been mentioned yet milton bradley oh yeah he's crazy as a he's a fucking shithouse rat he's crazy as a shithouse rat he's a fucking

loon he's out of his mind and he's out there yeah i don't see how he's not gonna read no one could be that crazy and then just be like i'm fine and then just i can pull it together now meds maybe but he'll get off him there's a problem with with him. Winner of this, and this is hands down, the panel was absolutely unanimous. Even Benny agreed, and he's kind of a prick. He's a little contrary. Adrian Broner. It's absolutely Adrian Broner. You can't do that here.

Now we have the person you'd least want to date your daughter award. Oh, these are so gross. These are all gross. Number one, Bob Hewitt, a tennis player who molested his students for years and years and years. Horrible person. Disgusting man. Number two, Darren Sharper, who drugs women all over the country and rapes them at will and has a whole system of the way he does it and the whole whole drug hookup, and the Bill Cosby of the Super Bowl.

We call him. It's kind of like the Phantom of the Super Bowl. And finally, Travis Smith, who will give your daughter HIV. Right. This is a tie. Yeah? Tie here between Sharper and Smith. Absolutely.

With Smith, it will be voluntary, at least. He doesn't rape, but it is tainted with HIV. So that's going to get you bad. And then Sharper, good God, watch out. Don't drink anything. Good Christ. So they're going to be a tie there. I don't want either one of those.

Next is the, only a couple more left here. Next is the Please Turn It Around Award. This is the award of the person. Somebody you're rooting on? We want to get it together and come back and take a good shot at this. We kind of liked it. We're like, come on, man, get it together. Turn it around.

Last year it was Ron LaFleur was the winner. This year, number one, Jake the Snake Roberts. Turn it around, Jake. He gave me much joy as a child. I'd like to see you turn it around. He's doing his best. He's trying. I don't know.

Number two, Brian Taylor. I want to root for this guy. He came from nothing. He came from nothing. He was like a toe gnash. He came from nothing. His parents were dirt poor. He had complete, and he just blew it.

Nobody really knew much of him? Is that true? No. Yeah, he blew it, man. He just, what do you mean? Before he- Before he got to the minors and such? No.

I mean, he was, well, he was in high school. He was highly touted. He was 100th mile an hour throwing left-hander. So good. You want him to turn around. I felt bad for him. Number three, Andre Rison. Because he was fun.

I wanted him to turn around. I just saw him on the Deion Sanders documentary that they just did, the 30 for 30. They interviewed him on there. He was looking good. But then I saw him on YouTube doing some weird fucking interview at like a fast food restaurant with some people who didn't have their shit together. Like a stretched out collar on his shirt. It's a disaster.

So Andre Risen there, winner of this award. Brian Taylor. I feel bad for Brian Taylor. He was just so poor. I want him to turn it around. Got a rough deal. And two more awards left here. One more and then the big one.

The big one. The Scumbag of the Year Award. Scumbag of the Year Award. That's a big award. It's a big award. The next award is the Most Likely to Find and Kill Me. And you.

Who knows? But probably me for putting together the information on them. I would imagine they'd be madder at me. Here. Most Likely to Find and kill me, number one, Anthony Smith, because he killed four other people.

Why wouldn't he fucking kill me? You don't mean nothing to him. Harold Howard, the psychopathic Canadian MMA fighter with the fucking mullet, who looks like you'd answer a knock on the door and he'd be standing there and you'd see a fist in your face and be the next thing. I'm afraid of that man. Number three, Tanya Harding.

I don't trust her. I don't trust her. And yes, she's small and all that, but she will hire someone to fucking do her dirty work for her. I could see Tammy Sitch being pissed, but she wouldn't be able to make... She'll be too fucked up to do anything about it.

She'll be too fucked up to drive. Tammy will get on the phone and start giving instructions yeah tammy will get running with telephone pole on the way to come over to fuck with me uh so tanya so it's anthony smith harold howard and tanya harding winner harold howard yeah that fucking ginger mullet i'm afraid of that it's very scary anthony smith is in prison so that'd be hard for him and tanya hardy doesn't have gas money she doesn't say she doesn't have the money to travel down here. She'd be like, how much is Greyhound to Phoenix? Damn it.

Harold Howard, I don't know. I think he's going to find me. I'll trade you a hubcap. I'll try. I got one. Half a pack of cigarettes. All right then, sweetie. Next up, scumbag of the year.

The most prestigious award. Now, remember, everybody, this is not just about what you did. It's about how you did it. The aplomb, the elan that you put forward in this. A complete disregard for decency and general human nature. We're looking for pure scum here, everybody.

The finesse of it. The finesse of the scum. Okay, here's our contestants. We have Anthony Smith. He murdered four people in a very brutal way, mind you. Okay, here's our contestants. We have Anthony Smith. He murdered four people in a very brutal way, mind you. Also, people were tortured. Bad things were done to these people.

That's right. They were stuffed in trunks and shit and driven around LA. And burned and fucking tortured and tormented. Darren Sharper, who drugged and had an an actual system of to go around and and have this weird thing where one guy got the drugs for him and he would drug these women and he called it the potion yeah and someone go is she okay and he'd be like she's just about ready she's on the potion that's disgusting what a piece of shit and number three bob Bob Bruiser Sweetan for abandoning his family out of nowhere, disappearing for years and reuniting with them only so he could molest their daughter. Jesus.

What a piece of shit and a scumbag. This is a tough one, man. This is, I mean. Where do you lean? Where do you land? The panel, it took a long time. There was conferences. They went through three different rounds of voting.

There was lots of paper being torn up here. Lots of paper. Lots of peroxide poured down his throat to get him to throw plastic up. Come on, guys. Let's go here. The winner and a squeaker. This was the tightest one of the night. Bob Bruiser sweet tan for molesting his own fucking daughter.

That makes it two straight years in a row where a wrestler that molested his daughter is scumbag of the year. I get it. Going around the country and raping women, scummy. Horrible. As bad a thing as you can do. Killing four people. Right.

Killing four people. Taking people off of this earth. The one guy had like a family and five kids. They were talking about his wife had no money and he disappeared and all this shit. Terrible. But to zero in on your own daughter as your predatory, as your prey and do this is a complete disregard for anything decent, anything in human nature. Bob Bruiser, sweet tank. Congratulations.

Scumbag of the year. Very prestigious. My God. Well done, Bob. Way toiser, sweet man. Congratulations. Scumbag of the year. Very prestigious. My God. Well done, Bob. Way to be a shitbag. You've really been a real shitbag. We're very proud of you. Everyone after the show, come get your awards up here. You know where they are. Put your weapons away. I am wearing a Kevlar vest, so good luck with that.

I'm wearing a shank-proof prison vest. I'm like a response guy in prison. I bust in with the shield through the cell. Like Omar in prison on the wire. Waiting to get shanked. Putting phone books on him. He taped phone books to his chest in prison.

Not really. I guess he had a baggy shirt on. Some guy tried to stab him and it went through. The yellow page saved his life? It got to about fucking H. Saved his life. That's awesome. Man, L would have been uncomfortable. So that is

this 2018, because that's the awards we did. Scummy Awards for this year. That is Chuck Knobloch. Holy shit. You know, you could have thrown Chuck in for most likely to find you. Oh, yeah. Now he's next year. He's on the list for next year.

That's a tough thing. The guys who do it on the day, they fall next year. Yeah, but you've got a cock. That's going to decipher whether or not he wants to fight you. See, he hasn't fought anyone with a cock. He's only fought women, which is common in our things here. If you like that, please, the way you can show us is to get on iTunes, Apple Podcasts, whatever it is. Give us five stars.

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of my favorite damn people on the face of this earth jimmy smashed me over the head with that goddamn list right now this week's executive producers are leslie the irish witch witch watch no leslie the irish wrist watch damn it leslie the irish witch i'm not gonna do it she did that on purpose i think jeffrey henderson uh donated for christmas and wow i'm i i apparently missed it i don't know i know i got his name brother but i didn't get leslie so leslie the irish rich what in the fuck why is that so hard with the hard name happy birthday no merry christmas that's what it was for that's what they wanted yeah and i blew it well leslie Leslie Henderson, because I can't say. Usher, Usher, Usher, Usher.

Merry Christmas. Thank you. Joshua Keller, Don Iverson? Yes. Alan's brother? I think so. Good. It's a girl.

Oh, Alan's sister. Yeah. It might be his brother, and they just spelled it like a lady. I don't know. Alan's estranged wife. Z, just Z. Shannon Russell, Brian Price. Jefferson Suchman, or Suchman. Shelly Vanderberg donated twice on Patreon and then over on PayPal.

That's the one. Wow. Thank you very, very much. Thank you. And Nicole Trudeau. You guys really make everything fun. Yeah, you really help. It's really impressive, and we can't thank you guys enough.

Thank you. We're blown away by it. And we're just thank you so much, honestly, for everything. Monique Con Gwynn. It's the Asian Gwynn. Gwynn. Right. That's the one.

Is that Asian Gwynn? I don't know what I'm doing. No, you don't. You don't have any idea. Appleberry Pocky. Hunter Berry. No, Hunter Perry. Jordan Bennett. you don't have any idea appleberry appleberry pocky uh hunter berry uh no hunter perry uh jordan bennett she is she she's getting tattoos like crazy and uh and then uh having the tattoo artist listen to us while cool it happens well thank you pretty bad spread the word kelly

mcalpine thomas smith uh rick uh sikorsky uh patty trifone uh James Martyr. I don't know if it's somebody calling you a martyr or if that's just their name. Fuck it. James Grell. No, Kim Grell. Jesus, what? Jump on that grenade, bitches. Kim Grell, Ross Lavsa, John Nagel, Dave Jocelyn, Ken Slattery, Kate Watson, Jacob Harshman. You're going to like this. Flattery, Kate Watson, Jacob Harshman, the Lionel Lakes Pronunciation Fund in support of Willamette.

That's clever. Take that. I like it. That's clever. Aaron with no last name. Fucking cocksuckers. Chris Currier, Keith Cole, Mitchell Crittenden, Jesse Hartman, Justin Miller, Daryl Donahue, Philip Close.

Philip, is that you? Is that you? What's with all this gun, man? Philip, you changed, man. You changed. Brendan Ables, Janice Hill, Adam Cummings, Heather Williams, Ruth Ejinkowski, I think that's right, Matt Sledge, Stacy Langtoe, Mojave, John Mott, Andy Coates, Anthony Cannella, Jake Martinez, Jamie Pfluger, which that's a tough one.

I think I got it right, though. Crystal Walker, Bailey Cox. That just sounds like something from a Dr. Seuss book. Jamie Julian, times two. So she donated twice. Thank you, Jamie. Appreciate it. Sarah Kunkel.

No, it's Nukle. What is that? Knuckle? I think it's Nukle. Damn it. Kinkle? Knuckle. Knuckle.

D? Knuckle? D? Just D. D. Appreciate you. The letter D. Gary Howard.

No, Christy. Yes. Christy Larson. Autumn Talley. Patrick Cunningham, Haley Marble, Ben Scarnage, Scranage, Scranage, I'm so dumb. I love it. Valerie Vega or Vegia?

I put like an I there. Shit, it might be Vega. Devin Letko, Valerie Galloway, uh matt dietrich sherry sonis or sovis ah i don't know if i put a v or an n i think it's sovis i think that's right abigail manning tara jenkins james lear jessica with no last name panhandle games uh kevin gately uh sophia trick and erica zel zelvanar zelvanardo zelvanardo hey yep got it hey uh regina kuda kuda Erica Zalvinardo. Hey. Yep. Got it.

Hey. Regina Kudajaroff. Lisa Beans. Rachel Storer, who also sent me a birthday card. Thank you. And you guys sending birthday cards. It's incredible. Thank you guys so much.

Really nice. Taisha McPherson. Ruiz. No, it's Russ. Russ Linderman. Shante. Trying to make him Spanish. Shante Wright, Leslie Woodruff, Ben Moore, Melissa Moss, James Hires, Laura, Laura Mickelson, Kimberly Vautour, Janet, Janet, Janet Home. I think that's right.

Antonio Meneses, Lauren Demerath checking in. Thank you, Lauren Demerath checking in. Thank you, Lauren. Megan Allen, Elise Carter, Tess Devine, Sam Wade, Yoma Mapus. Yoma Mapus. I don't know if that's supposed to be dirty or if that's just... It sounds dirty. It does. Reagan Schalkley, Ty Yeager, Beth Beer uh tina elder no ruiz uh carrie tay uh cory taylor uh miriam miriam lenae hale uh brian whitney and jacqueline osborne i'm fucking i'm an idiot

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damn show over and over and there'll be a next year scummy. we'll have a fourth annual scummy awards next year and it's going to be fun and who knows who the candidates are going to be the contestants the list is long i might have a chuck knoblock uniform by then no you might have a chuck knoblock uniform we'll see how we do that's great but uh live from the crime and studios, we will see you next week. Bye. Bye. early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.