Crime in Sports - #154 - Falsified Documents & Nazi Tattoos - The Opaqueness of Brandon "White Steel" Saling

Episode Date: March 26, 2019

This week, we explore the world of a guy, who just wanted to be a fighter. He would do anything to get to that dream, including hiding a past that includes some of the most reprehensible crimes you can commit. He hid in plain sight, until his whole facade came crashing down... one of his fights. With his past revealed, do you think he straightened up, flew right, and redoubled his efforts? Or, do you think he acted even worse, and went to prison, as a result? Find out! It's Brandon "White Steel" Saling!! Start your crime career young, get some of the dumbest tattoos imaginable, and lie about your criminal past with Brandon "White Steel" Saling!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Let's get into it with Brandon Curtis Salling. You ever heard of this guy, Brandon Salling? S-A-L-I-N-G? S-A-L, Salling without the I, without the first I. Never heard of this guy brandon saling s-a-l-i-n-g s-a-l sailing without the eye okay without the first eye never heard of him no yeah he's a a middling mma fighter but the story is pretty goddamn um amazing because he slipped through the cracks and uh you know they thought he was a good guy and he's not no we'll talk about that not at all when did this craziness start in 1986 he's born so he's a young guy yeah he's a young

guy he's already destroyed his life at an excessively young age so good job good for you buddy nice work just over 30 years old good work his life is fucked irreparably fucked at this point just completely destroyed two good words together irreparably fucked yeah they are pretty good they do work well together that is a description that you can't bat it out you just go i get it i get it i understand that that and degenerate gambler is also that's the other one that's like the most descriptive term ever whenever anyone sees a fucking degenerate gambler you're like i see it i know him i see it his head's down but he's still hopeful somehow it's i see that guy down on his life he's a double or nothing and he's fine he's gonna keep trying

either way whether it's fine or not we know a guy like that oh boy oh boy oh man degenerate gambler yeah that gambling is that gets a hold of you like i i've seen if someone's like a degenerate gambler they are just as bad as a heroin addict. It's the same disease. I mean, you see it. They have the same drive to it. This is destroying my life, but I'll do it anyway. That's the same.

I have to. It's a need. In comedy, that guy is the guy that gets a gig booked and asks for the money in advance. Yes. Yes. If you hire a comedian and they ask for the money days before the show, they have A, drug problem, B, gambling problem. Most of the time it's drugs with comedians, let's be realistic. But you can tell the gambler because when they show up, they're stone sober.

They're stone sober, they're clean, they've been fed, but they also need some money. Yeah, they're in a bad way. They're in a bad way. Stuff's not going well. Well, this is Brandonon salling and uh his nickname because every mma fighter has to have a stupid nickname and this says a lot is brandon white steel salling okay so uh he's a white guy you know nope nope he's from nigeria he calls himself white steel that would be amazing it's just a bad translation is the thing it was in

another language and somebody that's what it was and he doesn't understand so he's new to this country when he learns english he's going to be very upset that they've been calling him white steel all these years i don't know wesley snipes looking motherfucker named white steel no no this guy is a red-headed really uh yeah he's a he's like he's looks like dot sick no he looks like not late not late lifelife Dotsick. Like, Dotsick, when he fought, they looked very similar. Really? Like, red-headed, except he keeps his hair, like, short and a goofy mohawk.

It's like a short, like a crew-cut red-headed mohawk. It's like the Chuck Liddell mohawk. He looks like a jackass. It's a dumb mohawk. It's a dumb mohawk. It's a lazy one. On this guy, it looks god awful yeah yeah mr t left a little above the ears you know what i mean give a little something there

give it a fucking effort if you're gonna have a mohawk grow some hair and then shave do that don't you don't you don't have some stubble and shave it down the middle that's easily taken off that's and if you're gonna have a little short one make it like road warrior animal yeah like that yeah that looked fucking badass you know what i mean or like hawk and shave yourself into male pattern baldness which was the strangest look for a wrestler what a strange thing to decide to do you know i'm gonna make my hair male pattern baldness and shave it like why why would you do that to yourself i mean people do that to their kids as punishment nowadays but

as a as a choice as a haircut and then later on the warlord did the same thing shaved himself into male pattern baldness you're like what are you doing sir that is not complimentary it doesn't make sense i don't get it uh he's born january 28th 1986 he's from cumberland ohio okay and pretty much everything he does and all of his fuck-ups and triumphs and tragedies are all in ohio okay he is mr ohio uh he's 5 10 170 when he's when he's grown and fighting uh so he's i think a welterweight that is a pretty big dude yeah he's a he's a decentsized kind of littler guy here. I don't mean big. Believe me, that's not a big dude.

I'm not afraid of him by any stretch. But if he's a 170 fighter, that's a big dude. Yeah, yeah. That's all muscle. If he knows how to fight, yeah. I mean, if a guy knows how to fight, 170 can be used. As we've seen before, I remember years ago in Phoenix, they showed that video of Michael Carbajal beating that guy up at the gas station.

Michael Carbajal weighs like 108 pounds. He was literally, I think, 110-pound champion of the world boxing. Unbelievable. And he beat the shit out of a bunch of guys at a gas station. And, I mean, it was impressive to watch a tiny man just pummel a group of people with no fucking competition whatsoever. That's got to still be on YouTube, right? I'm sure.

They had no idea. The guys were like, Jesus Christ. It looked like when someone's getting swarmed by bees competition whatsoever that's gotta still be on youtube right i'm sure they had no idea the guys were like jesus christ it looked like when someone's getting swarmed by bees and they just kind of go in a circle with their hands in the air go we that's what they were kind of doing like what what the fuck he had hit from every direction by this little motherfucker and he was like drunk at three in the morning just with cowboy boots on he had like the pointy-toed mexican cowboy boots on because he was dressed like in full Ranchero gear. He had like the belt buckle.

Yeah, it was like Delahoya fight night or something. Like he was going out on the town. He's a boxer. That's a Southwest joke. Anyone in L.A., San Diego, Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Albuquerque, you know, whenever Oscar Delahoya had a fight years ago, the streets, the bars were flooded with seriously committed cowboy looking Mexican dudes with the button down shirt. Ostrich skin. The boots with the dots all over them. With the dots and the metal tips on them and the big belt buckle and jeans that they cannot fucking walk in because they're so goddamn tight.

And it's De La Hoya night. They are not messing around so his younger life uh here we don't i don't know much about his younger life no this is not a guy who is a big star so there's not a lot of like you know stories about oh let's let's how did you grow up let's say he was never like a guy who was like he came from here to here to where it would be like an interesting media story no mystique no mystique to it he's just this dude who's there so i mean he didn't there's not a lot nobody did like these these fluff piece mma fighters they love to do boxers mma fighters they love to do these pieces expose expose on how coming up they came from nothing or they came from this or their parents are really nice and they you know, his parents are both professors and he wants to punch people in the face.

How weird is that? Shit like that. So this is a little bit different. But by 2004, he's already in legal trouble. So that is at age 17. He's already in legal trouble here. In 2004, he is arrested in ohio this is just teenage shit here underage consumption oh yeah so i mean he's boozing i could have gotten that too

a million times so you're at a i didn't even drink i had weed on me all the time which was worse than you know now it doesn't matter but do they consider that consumption too as an underage there's no law about being high uh yeah that's a good point which is the thing like there's no laws about intaking drugs you're not even allowed to have them in the first place i mean there's an under the influence but exactly exactly but like yeah there's no like you're driving exactly yeah that's a more of a operating machinery type of thing but here yeah it's uh underage consumption i mean it could have been a party that got raided and they wrote everybody tickets.

Who gives a shit? I've seen, I know a person who went to Harvard that got an underage ticket. Not even kidding. Had an underage consumption ticket before she went off to Harvard there. She also used to buy mushrooms from people. It's like, how do you do, she'd buy weed off me and shit. How do you do mushrooms and weed and drink? It's those kids that do the most, by the way.

Those kids are bananas. She was amazing in sport. I'm like, how do you do that? What the fuck is going on? I never understood it. I couldn't do it. That's a different wiring than I've got. I like to look at it this way.

I'm more focused. That's what it is. See, she can just have her brain be doing all these different things. I'm so laser focused that there's no way that I could lend myself out to all these different things. So really, I'm better. All you're doing is skipping the sport. You're still burying yourself in books with weed. It's fine.

Yeah, she's, you know, I feel like a better person, honestly, because I can focus on one thing. She's got her brain all over the place. Academics, sports. You know, come on. Jesus Christ. Doing good in school hanging out with her family i mean give me a fucking break jesus christ you bury yourself in books and documentaries and weed that's it you're just you're just a different uh focus where she's like focusing on like being a good person and appearing to be a good person. You could give a fuck. See what happens. But you're taking information that's useful in this, where she's reading fucking books

on, I don't know, whatever, law. Who gives a shit? Something that I'm not interested in. Well, law. We could use some of those books, or at least her information. Dentistry? Who gives a shit? There you go.

Nobody wants it. Who cares? Fuck your dentistry. What do you want to be, a podiatrist? Fuck off. Get the hell out of here with that shit. You're learning the prescription of eyeglasses? Fuck out of here.

Get your ophthalmologist ass out of my face. So this guy, though, yeah, underage consumption. Nobody gives a shit. He ends up being found guilty, which I'm sure was some plea or whatever the hell it was. up being found guilty which i'm sure was some plea or whatever the hell it was and i would assume that this is one of those uh you know six months of not probation but six months of uh suspended uh what the hell is it called suspended prosecution where if you don't get in trouble they dismiss the charges that's usually what they do with people at this rate uh at that point now uh first before we talk about anything about him uh we need to talk about his tattoos

they are problematic to say the least i hate the word problematic and we've we've gone over problematic before when i'm like you fuck you're problematic i would even say his tattoos i would label them problematic okay you know what i mean when it comes to this shit um well first of all he has white steel across his stomach which in addition to being stupid it's a shitty looking tattoo it's not colored in oh it's just outlines of white steel and the letters don't even look that cool jesus like and it's like blocks and it's in no no but they're it's not it's in the thug life pattern white steel like thug life like tupac over the belly like that. But it's like it looks like a prison tat. It looks like like someone who's not that good at it or is just starting.

He went to like a barber college to look like he went to like a tattoo college. They were like free tattoo. If you let this guy do it, he's like that. Fuck it. Why not? He's done three or four so far. They haven't been. Nobody's complained.

Shrugging the shoulders. I don't know. Infection scars are going to look great look great i don't know he's learning how to clean those needles so yeah he's uh he's got that on his on his stomach and that's probably the least of bad of his issue here and that's up to interpretation yeah that's not so awful you just be like yeah it's a nickname that's the thing and it would you could almost say it's a it's like funny yeah you could almost say it's funny. You could almost say he's got a sense of humor. Right.

Ironic. If he didn't have an 88 on his collarbone with SS bolts around it. No. You can't do that. You can't do that. That's not even problematic. That's just straight up racist. That's what I'm saying.

When you mix white steel, white steel alone could be anything. Because I know people call Jason Williams white chocolate and shit as a joke. That could be funny, whatever, stupid, ironic, like you were saying. But when you mix it with the 88s and the SS bolts, at that point, it's a problem. At that point, you're a fucking Nazi. Sorry, bro. He's got those and he's an MMA fighter. Does he realize that the shirt has to come off?

Well, that's the thing. He's got those and he's an MMA fighter. Does he realize that the shirt has to come off? Well, that's the thing. He's got these and I don't know if everybody knows that like about Nazi shit. That's a good point. Yeah. If you have Netflix, I don't know how you wouldn't fucking know about Nazi shit because literally everything on Netflix is about either a pregnant lady doing stand up comedy or it's a fucking Hitler show. Yeah.

The only two things out there are pregnant women and nazis i swear to god if you just only had netflix you'd go oh everyone's pregnant or a nazi interesting that's pretty wild one thing on netflix right now is called hitler a career what was he dan rather what the fuck are we talking about hitler a career we're documenting his career path his career career what did he speak at career day what is that his career is the career criminal war criminal that's what he what once you start a holocaust you're not that's not a career anymore no you've gone past the point of career john gaudi didn't have a career either i I would say. Once you authorize murders of a dozen people, it's not really a career anymore, whether you make money or not.

So, yeah, that's what I mean. So, it's weird. Oh, he also has, we should explain the 88 there. Yeah, 88 is the eighth letter of the alphabet is H, and HH together stands for Heil Hitler. It's their thing. It's a very common thing. It's their main thing. Yeah, it's their big one. it's their like main thing yeah it's their

big one yeah that's their eight eight together equals racist as fuck that's their like smiley face that like somebody else would have you know what that is that's like that's getting a swastika like undercover yeah you know that's exactly what it is most people that you're literally not allowed to have in european countries you're not allowed to have swastikas like you can't do that like banned fucking design here you can be an asshole and have a swastika tattoo hopefully you'll take your shirt off around a couple of fucking black guys they'll beat the shit out of you but you can have a fucking swastika or you're marilyn manson and you put it on a fucking on a on a baseball cap and wear it on stage yeah which is a statement of art weird that's artistic i can't he's doing an art

thing i don't that's fine that's a different thing he's doing it to say fuck the nazis art is different art is exempt from all of this shit by the way because at that point it's not what they're going for it's not a statement so but this is a this is a different there's nothing artistic about about shitty jail looking fucking nazi tattoos uh and the 88 could stand for my brother was born in 88 but that's the thing but then when you put to make sure he puts s SS bolts around it just to make just so you know that this I'm a I'm a Nazi. I wasn't just born in 88 because he was born in 86. Right.

You can look at him and go. Maybe he was born in 88. Nope. Nope. Nope. Not at all. And then to avoid confusion here are lightning bolts. Just to make sure.

Also, he has a terrible, barely leg legible never scared across his chest like a top of his chest like a pep boys tattoo for the back of your 72 chevy no it looks like the like like the font of a chinese restaurant on a takeout menu like that silly font that's what it looks like that's exactly what it looks like you get in your door and it's like a goofy faunted you know fucking you know whatever the hell i never scared a mongolian yeah never scared of beef and broccoli never scared of orange chicken so uh he's never scared of sweet and sour pork and that's a plus we're happy with that spring rolls will not keep this man down and i'm gonna say something that might be unpopular

here well you know what i don't know how we'd have any ufc fans that like us anymore anyway because we have even though like jimmy used to like ufc and stuff but we we we make fun of ufc like kind of the culture yeah a lot because it's a weird culture it really is and you guys if you're you like ufc dude you know it's a weird fucking culture i'm sorry you might be into it or whatever that's fine but it's a weird culture it's just strange a lot of sports have strange cultures around them you should be around like gymnastics and just as weird yeah just as 12 year old girls doing gymnastics just as strange a culture as as mma uh but there's a why is this nazi thing a big thing in ufc and it is don't fucking deny that it is not you i mean it certainly is

it's bigger than most sports because because i get like in the nba you're not going to see fucking 88 tattoos because it's you know mostly a uh minority fucking unpopulated league and you're not going to be very popular same with baseball you're going to get some hard fouls we'll put it that way you know what i mean but like hockey doesn't have this issue that's a good point there's no you don't see littered it's white as fuck the pga tour is whiter than freshly fallen snow and we don't see people running around the fucking links with swastikas up tattooed on their forearms yet why a ufc is it is it the aggression the aggression i mean it has to be because they they consider themselves supreme i guess guess. And you're proving it in this fucking ring. I don't know.

I don't understand what that, like, I get like, okay, the boxing, or I'm not boxing. Golf would be, most of the people that are involved in golf come from kind of a different class. It's a class thing. So most of those guys aren't tattoo wearing Nazis. Just in terms of, even if they are nazis i'm not saying you know money precludes you from being a nazi they just tend to hide it better but they tend to not put 88 tattoos in visible places under their eye shit like that yeah so like i don't understand this though why that it's attractive in this because like in boxing it's you don't see that no and i understand

in boxing it's there's less white guys too but your but i don't get it mma is a whiter sport yeah it seems to be it sure is i mean there's a lot of minorities in mma don't get me wrong but a lot of southern south american oh absolutely there's people from other countries involved but i'm talking about the crazier part with this that like you tattoo that on your chest knowing that you are going to go up against somebody that's not of your race yeah eventually i mean probably not jewish probably not jewish and let's be real i'm just kidding jewish people can fight mma all they want just doesn't seem to be a popular choice for that particular religion is all i'm getting at you know there's not a lot of in this corner abe abramowitz he's like waving to crowd. His mother's in the front row.

How you doing? Hi, Ira. Hi. You can do it, Abe. That doesn't happen often. More likely, it's some guy who is more likely like the Jared Wyatt and the Easts. Kind of trailer trashy. How does that happen?

I don't know. It's a weird. It's a high population of i mean of guys that we've covered for sure and we're looking for like the socio like the we're looking for obviously this would need like a study of you know whatever on a university level that we are not capable of but just anecdotally i don't understand why there's so many like this seems to be so prevalent and when we used to do like that that shitty open mic back in the day before the podcast we hosted this terrible open mic at this terrible bar which was just awful and disgusting it smelled like piss throughout the entire thing they used to

stage mma events like in the parking lot there and those guys were all fucking nazis all of them all of them were fucking they all had those tattoos they were all fucking nazis it was like we're gonna have a dozen nazis fighting in the parking lot if you want it wasn't an mma event it was like a nazi throwdown it was super weird maybe the crowd was just there to watch the uh hopefully uh the last of the nazis get obliterated i don't i don't fucking understand and but i don't get the whole supremacist thing anyway and i don't mean white supremacists. Any of it. Who has pride at all?

In anything? What is wrong with you? None of us. Pride in what? What do you have pride in? Your bloodline? You're all something else. You're all pieces of shit.

Let me be the first to tell you that. Let me be the first person in entertainment to actually tell his whole audience you're all terrible, awful pieces of shit. Every last one of you, including myself and Jimmy, were all terrible. It's true. Nobody's good. There's no reason to be so goddamn proud of yourself.

Especially for some you can't help. And I get to take your circumstances and make them a prideful thing that you're proud that you came from and whatever if you're... That's fine. I understand that. The mafia built a whole business on it.

Calm the fuck down. Everybody. White, black, fucking men women gay straight trans you all of you whoever you are whatever group you classify yourself in you know at least 10 members of your group that are complete pieces of shit you do it's true you know it you would be furious if they were the leader and representative of that group. That's what I mean. We're all terrible. Just don't have any pride.

And then we can all judge everybody on their actions at that point. If nobody has any pride in anything. That's a good point. Fuck. Just make us all one cloth and then we just kick out the threads that suck. Yeah. That's what I mean. You know when you got like a blanket or a towel that has like a couple of loopholes that are like you take scissors and you cut that shit out yeah and you get rid of the

piece of shit and all of a sudden your cloth is great again and not to yes and not to mention you should be the hardest on yourselves yeah who do i make fun of the most yeah guineas from new york what am i a fucking guinea from new york there's a reason for that god damn it because i want us to be better yeah so that everybody try to be better don't sit there with pride pride means you're not going to try to get better why should i improve i'm great perfect i'm supreme as a matter of fact no it's right in my title you're all fucking stupid everybody is stupid i'm the hardest i'm the white trash because that's what i am. Because you know it. I can't be hard on another group that I didn't grow up intricately in because I don't know every little thing.

I know what makes these guineas tick and they're fucking jackasses and I can make fun of them for it. It took me forever to realize how much white trash I am until I sat down at a bar, ordered a beer, and they're like, would you like a cold glass? And I'm like, it came in one. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not going to take it out of the bottle. That's just logical. It's already in of the bottle. That's just logical.

It's already in a cold glass. It's fine. That's fucking funny. That's awesome. So this guy, though, he's very proud, apparently, of his heritage and everything else. That's too bad. I know. It's too bad.

It's too bad. Especially, he's not the most handsome man. You'd think he'd be like, what am I proud of? Look at me. I look terrible. My genetics are awful. It has nothing to do with my race or anybody else's race. My parents shouldn't have fucked, period.

Should have stayed away from each other. And he's red? I mean, that alone, he should have just been like, yeah, I'm at least second tier. Eyes a little too close together. He's one of these guys. So February 2nd, 2007. So he's one of these guys so so february 2nd 2007 so he's 21 now uh just turned four days after his birthday or a week after his birthday he is found guilty in traffic court of going 59 and a 35 that's too fast so yeah he cop was doing him a favor there though on the knock it down into

civil from the yeah exactly instead of taking him to fucking jail, instead of saying 60, we'll do 59 and go home with yourself there. So somebody did him a favor, kept it from being reckless driving. As we'll find out through the rest of the episode, this man deserves zero favors whatsoever. So whoever that cop was, you fucked up, buddy. Made a big mistake. So now he starts fighting. General fights here.

He starts his amateur career to begin with, obviously, here in his amateur career. He he fights. It's a weird thing here. He fights a couple amateur fights and then he's right into the right into UFC, not into UFC, but into the pro right. The pro game here is with nicknames. Exactly, exactly. Now, he fights first, a guy, he fights on August 9, 2008, at Hard Knocks Cage Fights 3.

So, HKCF3 is what they called it, and I had to look up what that meant, which is Hard Knocks Cage Fights 3. Horrible. This is in St. Clairsville, Ohio. So, it's a local thing here. He fights a guy named Roger Kupfer, who is a zero. It's his first pro fight.

But this guy was two and two as an amateur. And it lost his last fight. What's a Kupfer? To protect your dick. To protect your dick, buddy. He says it all the time. You know he does. You know they do.

Yeah. Mr. Kupfer to protect your dick. But Brandon wins this fight in round two, two minutes and 55 seconds with a TKO with punches. So he's one and O. He beats up some mediocre amateur. So good for you. Good for you, guy.

And June 18th, 2010, this is at First Strike Combat. That's the name of the event. Just First Strike Combat. No sub name. They usually have these sub nicknames for this. I'm a little disappointed. I expect more out of you, First Strike Combat. Jesus Christ.

Nazi Throwdown 3 or some shit. That's a very hard line word for sucker punch. Yeah. First Strike Combat. That's just a dude wasn't paying attention. Not. First strike. First strike combat. That's just a dude wasn't paying attention. Not looking. Right. Caught sleeping.

Caught slipping, motherfucker. Jesus Christ. This is in Columbus, Ohio. All right. Taking it to the big city. Yeah. Oh, boy. He fights John Felty, whose nickname is JP.

Yep. Which maybe his middle name is P. sure fucking hope so paul jp otherwise he just messed up he's been hitting the head already too many times uh the felty was ph is that yeah he's like maybe they spelt it wrong when i was a kid so he's he's got a little problem got it in the old noggin uh he's five and two as an amateur this guy and four and five as a pro so he's a mediocre guy that you want to fight when you're just starting kind of uh this fight uh kind of the same the same result here uh he fought he tko with punches this is in the first round though at two minutes and 22 seconds bringing brandon to two and oh brandon's a striker he's

a striker yeah he's a good stand-up fighter oh brandon's a striker he's a striker yeah he's a good stand-up fighter decent not good i would say but he's a decent stand-up fighter but when anybody gets him down on the ground it's a it's a mess he doesn't know how to he doesn't know how to ground grapple very well at all and he's not even that great of a striker if i'm being honest with you watching him it wasn't all that impressed okay like with his punching ability yeah i mean for then again he's fighting shitty fighters too for low level mma fighter maybe he's got a good punch but like you know i don't know i've seen guys in bars punch better than that to be honest with you if i'm being

realistic really so i mean the ufc is just built on sloppy fighting the whole thing's you rarely see a guy that's very uh fundamentally sound in terms of they they're focused on one thing or another. That's it. Boxing is like hitting a baseball. If you don't do it every day, all day, and have your timing and everything perfect, any little tweak in something fucks it all up. So you have to keep doing it. So unless you have that kind of commitment to boxing, you're not going to be a boxing

level striker. It's just not going to happen. It's not going to be a thing. Let's look at Conor McGregor, Floyd Mayweather, for example. You can't get near a guy like Floyd Mayweather if you're not a professional boxer. You can't get to his legs ever because he just hit you too many times. Sometimes when I want to feel better about myself, I will watch that and just be like, look, see, know your role.

Just know where your place is in life and stop trying to be better than everybody else obviously you're not yes obviously if it was a wrestling match would have been a much different outcome jesus christ i'm sure it would have been a slaughter that's the point uh this guy though is a stand-up fighter who's not that skilled at being it seems like an mma you almost you almost see and i know nothing that much about it but it seems like you'd be better off being a ground fighter because well it rarely ends with just two dudes standing up punching it's very very rare that those fights just stick with that it always gets to a point where somebody's better than the other box and and some there and he's gonna take the other guy's gonna take it to the ground first really good punch seems to win the fight though that's the thing that i that gets me they can grapple around but if someone hits someone clean

the jaw that's usually the end of the fight whether for a matter of whether he's knocked out or or and then the guy jumps on top of him and fucking ends it so it's like one or the other it's a clean punch is still the greatest thing in the world yeah like it really is if you've ever seen in real life someone just land a clean punch. You're like, doesn't get better than that right there, boy. Tell you what,

that guy's not getting back up. Fist on cheek is really the way to go. I'm telling you, that's old school. I like it. It really seems like this fight's over. Yeah. It's one of those things,

but yeah, but these guys that can wrestle though, a guy who's just a half ass striker, they tie these guys up in fucking knots. They know what they're doing right it's you know there seems to be a real like a like an art to grappling it's it's really something it really is like that there's so much technique to it and everything it's not just like a sloppy no you know front face lock whatever there's a lot of technique and a lot of shit like that so i do respect every movement on the ground is strategic whether it's like whether it

looks like he's got his dick out or whatever it is yeah they're just trying to do something he's trying to bait him into here and so he does this and maybe i can get him it's one of those things yeah it's the same thing in boxing you see a guy in doing little feigns and why are they just doing while they're trying to when he's feigning jabs he's getting that guy to look at his hand and so now maybe he can sneak something on the other side it's a you have to get him to flinch and drop that other shoulder yeah you're just getting him used to you putting your hand out too it's another thing you do if you put if you feign a lot then guys start not and then when you're not feigning and you're jabbing they might have a second because they think you're feigning so it keeps them from being reactionary

to your jab my stepmother's father was a boxing strategic was a boxing uh trainer and so i remember hearing him say that uh while he watched a fight he watched a tyson fight and he told me about that that would be the great undercard shit i'd love to sit with somebody that really knows like i i think i know a lot about boxing but i'd really like to hear somebody that like teddy atlas sit with that fucking guy yeah yeah that oh somebody who's of the top level yeah and then telling me something and then hit play again and then three seconds later pause this guy was like an old he's an old guinea uh boxing trainer guy he had a gym in the in the yard and he had his last fighter was a guy named zuri lawrence you can look him up he's a heavyweight he actually has he has a record for like the most wins without scoring a knockout

really it's a weird record yeah it's a for a heavyweight most wins without scoring a knockout. Really? It's a weird record. Yeah. It's for a heavyweight. Oh, yeah. Because he was a heavyweight fighter. Very strange. That was the last guy he had. He was a pretty active guy.

But yeah, and even he just knew so much about it. They just, if you watched a fight with him, he wasn't even trying to tell you. He'd just be talking while he was watching it. Is this not a good time? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, oh, okay. Yeah. As a little kid, I took it all in.

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September 4th, 2010. This is the first amateur MMA festival. but this isn't an amateur fight so i it's a festival yeah i don't understand stay in a motel together it's a fuck is this some kind of terrible south by southwest knockoff everybody drives there and stays in a bad hotel like we did jesus i can't believe we did that that was a terrible thing yeah 30 hours round trip 30 hours round trip to share a bed in a terrible motel because that's all we could afford and then perform for free and then perform for free and then get back in the car and drive back through the desert the godforsaken desert that was what were we doing what were we thinking

there i don't have any? What were we thinking there? I don't have any idea what we were thinking there. Never again. Never again. No. That was two years ago. Not happening ever again. You can fucking pay us for that shit now. I'll quit or kill myself before I do that.

I'm not doing that drive ever again. Sorry. I don't care what it means. I don't care if I'm destitute and have to be a trucker. I'll never drive that route. Not doing that route. Nope. Where am I going?

Phoenix? Nope. Not going Phoenix to Austin. Sorry. Absolutely not. Not happening. He fights William Jake Cooner this night. Couldn't decide on a name.

This is his first pro fight, apparently. Six and one is an amateur, this guy. He fights. This is Brandon wins with a TKO with punches at 20 seconds of round two. So pretty quick time. All of his things are punches. You don't see him win with any complicated moves or anything like that. November 24th, 2010 is the NAAFS Caged Fury 13.

Oh, boy. North American Allied Fight Series, that stands for. I could have got a couple of those, I'm sure. I'm sure. Whatever the fuck. Who knows? Nazi something? I don't know.

Nazi-affiliated associates of fucking Stalin. I don't know. That would be the opposite of a Nazi, because they fought each other. I get it. But what do you want from me? All right. So this is Caged Fury 13. Caged Fury.

Good show. Take your shirt off and show us those tattoos. So November 24th, 2010. This is at the Potter Fieldhouse in East Liverpool, Ohio. Oh. Jimmy's face just went, eh? How do they have that? Pardon?

Yeah. East Liverpool. I would say that's West Liverpool. Yeah. Super West. Or way east. Either one. Just keep going. Just keep going. Keep going. pardon yeah east liverpool i would say that's west liverpool yeah i would fucking super west or way east either one just keep going nope past there's china keep going when they stop speaking japanese you're gonna keep going for a while you're gonna be close and they stop speaking japanese and speak that north that that native u.s mexican yeah you know how that goes you're almost there almost it's close

so uh yeah so he fought cooner in the last one who was a zero and zero fighter in this one he fights jonathan arnett who is a zero and zero pro so he's fighting a bunch of guys in their first fight they're just starting yeah and this guy was uh five and oh in his amateur career so you know he he's a promising fighter this guy uh he beats brandon after three rounds in a unanimous decision how about that so full goes the full full ride and uh brings brandon down to three and one okay for his career november of 2010 and this is the don't ask how i found it's a long. I'm not sure if this is when he started it, but it says this is when he started an email account. Starts an email account, which is WhitesteelB88.

So he puts it in his fucking email. Where?Hotmail.com. Yes, sir. So Hotmail in 2010. Why did he start this? Because he needed an email address white steel b88 so nazi shit it's just nazi and hotmail nazi brain damage at hotmail.com i haven't heard hotmail.com it's been a minute 20 years like literally i would say at least 15 years since i've heard

anybody with a hotmail address let's throw hotmail address is this still still exists oh fuck it's got i'm sure they have to keep because you can still use people use their aol mail still for christ's sake if they're really insane i still have a yahoo they're 100 it's still there yeah i have one from back in the day too that's a yeah it's still linked to my phone i still get emails it's all from shit i've bought from before yeah if i have to like if i have to like sign into something that's my dormant email that doesn't doesn't go to my phone it's just pile it up in there assholes i don't care i don't get alerts for it but every now and again i'll open it up and just scroll through and be like oh yeah i remember when i bought shit from them it'll be like a one week newspaper trials that i get information from sure i'll sign up for that there you go there's my

email have at it buddy don't give a shit just spam there right there uh so december 18th 2010 by the way let's go over uh he fought in august of 2008 and it was his amateur uh was the first fight not his amateur fight his first pro fight he waits uh he waits uh a year almost two years to fight the next one we'll find out why in a little while here and then uh so that's august uh that's june of 2010 and then september of 2010 november 24th of 2010 and then december 18th of 2010 that's a lot he starts fighting every month yeah uh it comes to a point where i think it's 13 fights in 12 months with him which is too many yeah too much two in one month too many to get hit in the head that's just not going to work there uh december 18th 2010 is caged madness 19

hell yeah madness absolutely caged yeah 19 there's 18 others 18 of others that were madness yeah so how much madness can one cage hold jimmy that's their tagline how much madness can one cage hold there's too much madness for us to cage at all so we're gonna do 19 of these at least all this extra madness is overflowing all the time it's leaking out how much madness you want us to cram in there? We're only human. Every month we bag up the leftovers. We have excess madness. We donate it to Goodwill and the soup kitchens and everything, but it keeps coming. Keeps coming.

Unbelievable. So he fights Darnell Hicks here, who is a 2-2 amateur and is a 1-0 pro so far. This is Brandon wins with a submission with punches though so the guy like got punched too much and gave up i don't think i've seen many just turned around and ran toward the club i can't take it no more he looked like the guy stop hitting me please he looked like the guy's uh jesus he's hitting me he's done hit me all over the place here he looked like the guy's... Jesus, he's hitting me. He's done hitting me all over the place here. He looked like the guy's getting beat up by Carbohol at the gas station, I'm sure. Just running around.

There's bees in here. He keeps punching. There's bees in the madness. Will somebody get the fucking bees in the madness? Please. Please. It's leaking out of everywhere. For fuck's sake.

Jesus. I quit. I'm not out of everywhere. For fuck's sake. Jesus. I quit. Bees. I'm not going to be the madness wrangler if no one's going to fucking help me with the bees. Can only do so much. Fucking bees. What the hell's going on?

Fucking bees. What the hell is wrong with us? Oh, man. So this is at the Lux Nightclub in Akron, which is, you know, there's Madison Square Garden. Right. You know, there's certain arenas, Jimmy. You know, there's Madison Square Garden, Tokyo Dome, places like that that are popular. Is it deluxe with an E?

No. L-U-X. Oh, really? I can't afford the E on the side. It's not even like short for deluxe. It's just L-U-X. L-U-X, baby baby that's how they think it's shit spelled that's a word to them so uh in this fight uh like i said it's submission with punches

as we discussed here of uh 228 of round one so he knocks him around in one round it's a he's four and one now uh that's uh those are all his amateur fights that we just covered there. I don't know if I made that clear. I don't know if I made that clear. Those are the amateur fights. I mean, we peppered that. Okay. Yeah.

Those are his amateur fights here. Now, first pro fight is February 12th, 2011, and is in Warren, Ohio. Cage star pro series one. Okay. All right. He's fighting. Sounds like a motocross event yeah no shit it really does so uh he's had two months off it does sound like a motocross event

yeah dude like a cage cage cage star pro series one cage star either that or like a if world star had a fucking like an event yeah they would call it cage star that's where the fights are sanctioned now yeah so uh we got a governing body yeah for this for this burger king worker to beat the shit out of the customer yeah hey this is a great idea for a business i don don't know how legal this is, but if you could have a business where you would take people in and people who hate each other could fight, like at the drop of a hat,

you just have to sign some kind of waiver and the legalities of it are fine because it's in some sort of arena. Can you sanction that? I think we can. And if you can't sanction it, it's got to be just legal. Can we call it like amateur exhibition of some kind?

If they agree to it, there's a contract. I want people who hate each other to be able to fight is what I'm getting at. I do, too. I think it gets it over with, and it's good for the soul. I got a list. I want that. Yeah. It's selfish, honestly.

Let's be realistic here. There's people I want to punch, okay? Is that good enough for you? I need them to volunteer at that point to accept my punch, but still, I want to do it. So this is in Warren, Ohio. This fight is versus Kevin Zalek, Z-A-L-A-C. I don't know. This guy's a four and two career fighter, old Kevin Zalek.

This is Brandon's first pro fight, and he loses by submission here to a rear naked choke. So now he gets guys that, you know, four and two fighters had six pro fights. He knows what to do. He knows if a guy can't fucking grapple to grapple him, and he does. And this is 203 in round two. So Brandon Owen won out of the gate. Not terrific. March 25th, 2011.

This is the Pennsylvania Fighting Championship fighting championship five okay so the whole state yeah just fighting no particular style this is just fighting and they've given up on even really trying to be clever at all they didn't care where are we and what is it done well they came up with like 10 names and they said these all sound like motocross events fuck it pennsylvania fighting championship that way people know there's no motorcycle so uh this is at the zembo arena ten names and they said, these all sound like motocross events. Fuck it. Pennsylvania Fighting Championship. That way people know there's no motorcycles. This is at the Zembo Arena in Harrisburg. It's

versus Micah Morris, who's a two and three career fighter. A little less successful. At this point? At this point. No, that's his career total. Oh, really? Total, this Micah Morris is two and three. Brandon wins by KO with a punch at one minute, 49 seconds of round one. So he's got to knock you out or else he's going to end up getting tied up in a knot.

So that's what he tries to do here. This makes him one and one total on his pro career. April 16th, 2011, he's back with the NAAFS. Fuck yeah. North American Allied Fight Series. Nazi Allied. Aryan Brotherhood. Aryan fucker.

Fascist. Something. So, Caged Vengeance 9 is what we're getting at here. April 16th, 2011, at the Canton Civic Center in Canton, Ohio. Hell yeah. Huge stuff here. He fights Johnny Bullet Fields. Okay.

Bullet. He's quick. That's all I can think. Fast as shit. He's super fast, or he's got an oddly shaped head. Only two ways you can get that nickname. Really. Still looks like he just came out the womb.

Yep. They called him Forcep growing up, and they changed it to Bullet when he learned how to fight. Bullet sounds better. Forcep. If we call him Forcep, we're definitely mocking to bullet when he learned how to fight bullet sounds better if we call him force it we're definitely not mocking him and he's gonna punch us so if we call him bullet we're just like hey dude you're fast all right nods his big pointy head at you so uh the bullet is two and six career so the bullet is not that fast apparently here this is the bullet second to last fight oh uh and brandon wins this fight uh with a submission uh with a rear naked choke so he learned something there you go he's

learning he remembered when he got choked out yeah and he's like maybe i can do that to somebody uh 457 of round one uh there so first round choke out you know for better lack of a better term here may 7th 2001 is the purgatory championship fights three jesus purgatory championship fights three jesus right by the way uh let's go over february 12th fight march 25th fight april 16th fight may 7th fight so he's fighting like every three weeks now there's a a lot of fighting here. Purgatory Championship Fights 3. So this is to get into the heaven. Loser goes to hell. The loser's soul burns for eternity.

Come on down to Purgatory Championship Fights 3. A lot on the line. That I'd watch. I would watch that too. Just a guy sobbing in the corner afterwards. Just for the just for the view of eternal soul watching him being sent to hell however that happens i want to watch whatever a hole opens up in the sky or the ground and sucks him through it as far as i'm concerned

that's the winner we're gonna cheer for that guy man he really should have tried to block that takedown he really that wouldn't happen it wouldn't be down with the Dark Prince if that was... This is at the Erie Street Market and Concert Hall in Toledo, where dreams are made. Yeah. The Erie Street Market and Concert Hall. Is this all over Ohio? That's all he does? He's an Ohio guy.

It seems like all these UFC... Or not UFC, MMA guys, they start out locally, and then if they get good, then they start to be able to fight in other places. But they're like comedians. They have to start out locally. Yeah, run that open line. And if you want to be booked across the country, you have to be worth trucking, bringing in. Yeah, basically. You're not going to put asses in seats in fucking Missouri, sir.

So eat dicks, friend. Friend. He ends up fighting Tyler the the shoot beckley okay uh which the shoot if you don't know in like a wrestling parlance means he's no shit he's the real deal he's the real deal this is the one this is the uh yeah he he was mad at evander hollyfield for naming himself that and he said fucking bastard he took the one so i'm going with the shoe it's a shoot he. He took the one, so I'm going with the shoot. I'm going with the shoot. He took real deal. Or is it C-H-U-T-E? It's not the poop shoot.

Tyler, the poop shoot Beckley. Gross. Coming for your butthole. Luckily, he is keeping him away from everybody's butthole here, Tyler. He's a 6-2 career fighter. 3-0 coming into this fight. So he's very promising. So this is a 2-1 fighter fighting a 3-0 fighter.

Brandon ends up winning this fight in the second round at 353 with a submission with a rear naked choke. So he's learning to grapple a bit here, which he needs to. But he's still not very good at it from everything I've read about him. I don't know enough about MMA to be able to tell when someone's a real good grappler so i need to kind of read people who know what they're talking about their analysis of people because i don't know i don't know how to judge whether someone's a good wrestler like that like yeah that's a good point i don't know how to judge that not that that's not judgeable but i don't know i'm not an expert on it so i don't know and i'm not either but i can tell you when when somebody's

not doing a good job i can tell you when someone's choking that means they're not as good as the other guy probably when that hand is going real fast against the other dude's forearm other than that it's a bad wrestler i don't know much otherwise yeah you put two shitty wrestlers in there i'd go both these guys are great they're evenly matched look how evenly matched these amazing athletes are i don't know this is super competitive so that was may 7th he fought then bringing him to three and one uh now may 28th he fights again which that's three weeks again that's three weeks fight three weeks fight that's and that that fight went 353 in the second round too so he fought for almost nine minutes there. You get knocked around a little bit.

Brain damage. This is what happens. Certainly. May 28, 2011 is Fight Night in the Cage 2. Okay. So these, just, I don't know what to name it, but not that. We're out of names. Yeah.

We've exhausted them. Yeah. He fights Matt Gutter Van Buren. I like that. G gutter that's cool as shit you tter i don't know if he lives in the gutter or he's ready to gut you but it's also a a slang term for just like hood yeah yeah yeah so i don't know what what he's uh getting at here depending on where he's from yeah he's a seven and six career fighter here so he's kind of a journeyman it's kind of a journeyman.

It's kind of who Brandon keeps fighting because the competition he gets is not... There's no cream of the crop. There's no cream of the crop for him yet. He's got to work his way up. This fight goes all three rounds, and Brandon loses a unanimous decision to gutter here, bringing him to 3-2. So at this point, I'd say maybe I should take a break. Yeah. to gutter here, bringing him to three and two. So he said, at this point, I'd say, maybe I should take a break

and take two months off because I've been knocked around. I fight every three weeks and I just did a unanimous decision and lost. This decision was not a great career path. No, which means you probably got hit in the head a bunch if you went three rounds and lost.

I'm assuming at one point somebody smacked you upside the head. He says, fuck it, June 17th I'm going to fight again. I need less than three weeks to prepare for the next one. This is crazy time. Here he fights, but he's taking fights if they offer them to him, he's got to take them.

They might not ever call him again. This takes so much time to do, to prep for, in terms of like focus and oh they should be hours of your day he doesn't have time for a day job and he has one because he's not getting any money yeah he's got to have at least some he's got something he's got a day job the money that he's making is so menial oh if he wins he's making these little things he's making 200 bucks yeah some shit like that he's not making three to five something like that yeah

i didn't mean he's not making 10 grand yeah right exactly so he's yeah it's it's brutal the money he's got a day job right he's uh normally the professionals they want they want a few months to train special for one fight like to train specifically for that where they do nothing else and all they do is eat sleep and breathe fucking training of this and supplements are so fucking expensive yeah they are this guy's just like going to you know he's going to work at the warehouse and then you know working out for a couple hours at night and then fighting every three weeks it's it's crazy and that's how a lot of these guys start like that's kind of like comedians the same thing like they don't have time to work on their shit and do it because and that's why it's hard to get good instead of protein it's just like a lot of mac and cheese a

lot of mac and cheese it's just it's just uh it's it's a filler is what it is whatever it fills the stomach no protein right because protein's expensive right anything with protein and it's gonna cost you that used to be an animal yeah that's an animal or a peanut or something either way it's expensive it was a process to make that damn it uh so june 17th 2011 this is ring of combat 36 nice and simple anyway ring of combat 36 this is at the tropicana casino in atlantic city new jersey america's fucking taint yeah america's taint hair it's not even the taint it's just the hair that someone would want to shave off of the taint. Atlantic City is a dump. Awful, awful place.

And the Tropicana Casino, the fucking ceiling was probably falling down. What a piece of shit. Waterlogged. Yeah. You can see the old water leaks. They used to do events from that place in the 80s, and it looked like a fucking dump. So I can't imagine what it looked like in 2011. Jesus Christ.

2011. Jesus Christ. He fights a guy named Casey Manrique, whose nickname is Casey Not in the Face Manrique. Are you serious? That's his nickname. Not in the face? Not in the face. Casey Not in the Face Manrique.

He thinks he's funny. He's like, hey, not in the face. That's not tough. Not in the face. That's not tough. Not in the face, Enrique. At least it's not please. He didn't say, not in the face, please. That's too much for a nickname. That's a lot.

He's a four and two career fighter, this guy. None of these guys have like 10 career fights that he's fighting ever, even when they're done fighting. Brandon, this fight goes into round two. At 130, Brandon loses by submission to a rear naked choke. This is the only move, I feel like, that these guys do to each other in this particular circuit. This is the rear naked choke circuit, son. That's all you're allowed to do. Either punches or rear naked chokes.

At least he didn't get in the face. That's true. There you go. Not in the face. Well, he won. So he lost to a guy who's asking you not didn't get in the face. That's true. There you go. Not in the face. Well, he won. Yeah. So he lost to a guy who's asking you not to hit him in the face. Good job, Brandon.

So Brandon's three and three. This is not a terrific, not great. This isn't a good career so far. This isn't a good start for sure. No, not at all. And he doesn't really have a lot more time to keep going. So we'll find out here. This is just about over with almost already.

So June 17th, that fight was. So he waits this time more of it. He was only three weeks this time. He's like, I'll wait five weeks instead of three. So July 23rd, 2011, he fights at AP Crossroads of Redemption. AP is not Associated Press is instead Annihilation Productions, which sounds like they make terrible horror movies that are like six for the price of one on one DVD in the Walmart bin for $5. So Crossroads of Redemption.

This is at the Lawrenceburg Motorcycle Speedway in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. Okay. Oh, boy. What do you think the bathrooms smell like in that joint? That's a dirt trap. They have troughs. Yeah. With ice in it?

Yeah. No way there's ice. They're not going to put it. Ice is expensive, son. It just doesn't flush. The ice, when it melts, that's the flush. Yeah, yeah. That's what that is, right?

That clears it away. I think that's what that is. I think it's just so it's not the smell of hot piss. Hot piss smells worse than cold piss i feel like that's a good point you can't just be imagine if you're sitting above just a fucking cauldron of hot stranger piss all into one plus it keeps it from splashing in the piss water then okay because then it's all got a bump in it have you pissed in a trough before yeah it's disgusting it's the worst thing i've done at a racetrack it's terrible it's fucking disgusting it feels weird

and as a the trough was always too high because it was for men and i was a fucking child yeah so i'm standing on my tiptoes trying not to touch my dickhead to that like that that rounded rim it is the most fun and and then you've got grown men walking in seeing a 10 year old dick and it was a bit it's a bit uncomfortable we should not be that close to each other never dicks out there should never be a a urinal without the divine no that should be a law i should never have to get stranger piss on my shoes ever or any other part of my clothing that should be a rule that ever yeah you never use the urinal that should be in a bill of rights because it's then i get my own piss on my shoes here's what you do with the urinal you walk up ladies you might not know this.

You walk up. It's a higher up thing, and it's got either the urinal cake or a hard plastic thing that you can try to shoot through the little holes of it to keep it less flashy. The non-flush one? So you're fucking pissing this thing, and you're pissing with force into something that's not that far away, and piss flies everywhere. It's fucking disgusting. You can look down at your shoes and watch piss flex.

Like, why am I doing this? This is disgusting. Every time I go to the bathroom now, every single time, it never fails. I walk up to a urinal and your voice echoes in my ear. We used to record at the radio station and we'd walk into the bathroom and james would always go in the stall i go why are you going in the stall and he just the words piss on my shoes i don't want piss on my shoes that's why you didn't even say that you just go piss on my shoes yeah and you were like every time i i i convulsed while pissing and probably soaked my shoes you got more on your shoes yeah but i've every to every it never fails as soon

as i walk up to a urinal i just go piss on my shoes piss on my shoes every time and i and i still probably am pissing on my shoes oh yeah you are it just makes me laugh my shoes are piss free i'm gonna piss soaked piss soaked shoes well the lawrenceburg motorcycle speedway is where you get those piss soaked shoes and their trough uh he fights billy mojo horn here he's a 17 and 5 career fighter big austin powers fan oh huge well he's also i think a big wrestling fan uh here uh his last fight was versus a guy oh not he was this other guy his last fight was versus a guy named portland pringle the third okay who percy pringle the third was a manager in wrestling he's actually paul bearer he was the undertaker's manager that earned that guy creepy

looking man percy pringle at first oh yeah he's played that character so perfectly he used to be a real undertaker oh is that right he's a mortician that's why no kidding they had the undertaker character they were working on and then they were bringing him in as a manager and that when they bring anybody in they ask him like what did you do whatever because they try to match it up sure and the guy said well i used to be a mortician i'm a licensed mortician they all went get the fuck out of here i've never met one we have a guy who's like a zombie guy perfect there you go we have a guy that's like a zombie yeah it looks like you yeah involved him and he popped out of the coffin and you're gonna go kick some ass good job so yeah so uh he fights here this is uh he loses again uh this is by submission with a rear naked

choke again he's susceptible to that real susceptible this is at a minute 20 second a minute to a minute 27 seconds of round one he doesn't have a trainer telling him this is the one we're gonna fucking try to defend now shit i mean how often is he training how much can he possibly be she's fighting every three weeks he's got a day job how much could he be training it's gotta he's whatever it is he's got to be only focusing on that now it's i would say so here and with this guy too that he's fighting a 17 and 5 fighter that's that's a god's a lot of fights he's won three times you know that's a lot he's got a good win percentage how's that guy's criminal record so now he's three and four unfortunately clean i wish it was more uh three and four for his career now uh august 27 2011 he fights at the iron will fighting championship in johnstown

pennsylvania versus elijah garshnick oh boy which sounds like a made-up terrible name yeah like just an awful name pennsylvania that's the toughest amish guy around yeah no shit elijah is a hezekiah garshnick is his older brother who is the champion of all the pennsylvania that's the toughest amish guy around yeah no shit elijah is it hezekiah garshnick is his older brother who is the champion of all the pennsylvania fighting leagues here so uh iron will fighting championship here elijah garshnick is nine and five in his career and brandon comes back with a comeback win here oh uh wins by submission at three minutes uh and one second of round one so he's four and four now, Brandon. He keeps kind of going back and forth here.

October 1st, 2011, this is the Fight Right MMA Fight for Life, which makes it sound like that is an anti-abortion event. The Fight Right Fight for Life sounds like it is 100% raising money to bomb abortion clinics. That's exactly what that's for but is it like it's it's a little on the uh what's the word contradictory side are you fighting the right what are you doing the right the right for that yeah fight right so they're fighting got you to the right i guess fight with the spectrum i guess i don't know and they're saying that they're right on top of it so they're trying to find it. This is Fight Right MMA is the company.

This is at the York Expo Center in New York, Pennsylvania. Could have guessed that one. Oh, you know it. He's fighting William Bookwalter, who is a two and two career fighter total. And this is his last fight. That's it. So I'll give you a hint of what happens here. So William does not win.

Billy Bookwalter doesn't get the W here. We'll say that. He didn't win and ride off into the sunset. You know what? I'm done. Like John Elway. I won my title. I'm done.

He wins by TKO here with punches at three minutes and seven seconds of round one. Brandon does. And he goes to five and four. Now, that was October 1st that that happened. Now, that was October 1st that that happened. Two days later, on October 3rd, he's arrested in Ohio for two counts of nonpayment of child support here. So he's found guilty. So I don't know if, you know, maybe, I don't know, maybe if you have kids and you don't make a lot of money,

maybe being an MMA fighter might not be the best career path for you, especially if you're not that good at it. You don't follow a dream when you've got responsibility. Well, if he was like 9-0 at this point, you'd be like, well, there's money right around the corner for this guy. He's about to do something. But, I mean, he's 5-4 fighting. He's only beating guys who are kind of the dregs. It's not, I don't know. You've got responsibilities that require food. It's not just like you've got to pay your own rent, that kind of responsibility.

This is your people's livelihood depend on you. Yeah. Do you have you got to unless that's financially suitable, then fucking figure out something else, too. And apparently it's not financially suitable because, yeah, because you're when you're arrested for two counts of nonpayment of child support. That's an issue. And that wasn't one month.

You're not arrested for last month. Well, they don't, it takes a long time for it to even be a thing. So like, you don't, oh shit, I forgot to make the payment two days ago and then there's cops knocking on your door. It's like, I'll be a year of that shit, six months of that shit before anyone

comes looking for you to arrest you. Certainly. So he is, yeah, he's found guilty here. I'm not positive of the thing. He doesn't go to jail for it. Most of the time, the nonpayment of child support, unless it's some crazy amount that's an obvious guy. It's like a scoff law has been running from child support for 15 years or some shit. Normally, jailing a person so then they can't make money isn't the best outcome for it.

Usually, it's like, well, you didn't pay her, so now you're going to get jailed and she'll still make no money. I don't think the mother wants that either at that point the children he's on the streets making money let him out and send him to work so he can pay me my fucking money so i can take care of these goddamn kids that he left behind when he went to go get punched in the face for no reason every three weeks my guy's named elijah the fuck is happening uh so uh october 3rd october 1st was the fight third was the arrest october 21st is another fight okay so man that is less than three weeks that's too short 18 days especially with jail in between he didn't have time to train properly he was arrested and going to court in the middle of all this shit this is uh the event is called locked in a cage nine do they do that so

do they lock them? I would assume so. Is that locked? I don't think so. I don't know if it's locked. You could leave if you want, probably. I don't think they're... You could probably give up if you want.

Yeah, I don't think they're going to say no. No. Stay in there. To the death. To the death. This is Bloodsport. I don't know what you think you signed up for, pal. Jean-Claude Van Damme is going to fuck you up in about two minutes, buddy.

signed up for pal jean-claude van damme's gonna fuck you up in about two minutes buddy so uh yeah this is uh he fights lamont philly badass lister philly philly badass philly like philly the city he's from philly right uh the philly badass lamont lister okay who is a fat white guy oh really yeah he's a big fat fuck uh screaming about water ice yeah he looks like he looks like saying don't touch my fucking tasty cakes pal uh this guy looks like a guy if you saw him in a bar you'd be like oh shit that's a tough son of a bitch but in the in a professional environment he doesn't look like an athlete you know what i'm saying he's one of those uh he's a 6 and 13 career fighter uh spoiler here uh the philly badass loses this fight and then he loses two more and then retires so not going well for the philly badass this is one minute and six seconds of round one brandon wins by ko wow so not that badass i would say or maybe brandon is or maybe

brandon is the new philly badass take that you take that nickname when you when you lose like that so now i'm the philly badass take that i'm not even from here i'm from ohio i'm gonna take his sash and put it across myself give me your shorts give, pal. No, they're too big. Never mind. You're fat, fuck. So six and four for Brandon at this point. November 26, 2011. This is when he starts getting better fights. He fights for Bellator now, which is a bigger company. This is Bellator Fighting Championships 59.

He can make some money here. He can make a little bit of cash. Yeah, he's not going to make 300 bucks here. He's going to make a grand or whatever the fuck they get. I think we looked at a lot of these like $2,500 or $1,500. Some were 15, some money here. He can make a little bit of cash. Yeah, he's not going to make 300 bucks here. He's going to make a grand or whatever the fuck they get. I think we looked at a lot of these like $2,500 or $1,500. Some were $1,500, some were $1,300. It was low thousands. Low, but it paid for your travel at least. Certainly.

The other ones were not. This is at Caesars in Atlantic City. So it's in Atlantic City, but one of the better places in Atlantic City, which is pretty much like saying the you know, the cleanest hooker down by the dock, like down at Hunts Point in the Bronx in 1992. Less AIDS in this one. Yeah, a little bit less than this woman. She's HIV positive.

She doesn't have full blown AIDS. No, no, no, not full blown. If you've ever seen the HBO documentaries with the hookers at the point, you'll know what I'm talking about because they're. These were crackhead hookers. These aren't like, you know, they're not working their way through college. We'll put it that way. These are crackheads.

Professional, 25-year-ago and like, you don't have 20? I'll blow you for 12 bucks. These aren't 21-year-old girls. These are women with 21 years of experience. Yeah, and 21-year-old children. Yeah. That's the other thing so not good not good here he fights gregory uh milliard who is known as gregory the aruban assassin

milliard yeah that's a cool name not a lot of aruba not a lot of aruban fighters no it's pretty laid back down there pretty chill chill. It's pretty chill. Like, I don't know how you'd be that angry on an island coming from Aruba. Yeah. I don't know. That's tough. All this blue water's got me pissed off. I'm pissed off, man.

All this tourism dollars. I am furious. Fucking scantily clad women and beautiful skies. Looking for a Reuben dick. I hate seafood. I hate it. Ridiculous. So the Reuben assassin is nine and four in his career.

All right. And this is his fight goes all three rounds. And Brandon loses a unanimous decision. Oh, no. Bringing him to six and five. That's tough. Yeah. So January 28th, 2012 is the NAAFS.

He's back there again. The National Association of Asshole Fucking... Asshole Shits. I was going to say something else. I can't say that. Too many swear words. Too many swear words. Too many in a row.

Cage Fury 16. Okay. Now, this is in Morgantown, West Virginia. Yeesh. Yikes. With the whites running around and everybody, Boone County, clicking in the distance.

Jesus. He fights Mickey Hughes, who's a 5-6 career fighter, and this is his last fight. So, shocker, he loses this one. I wish luck from West Virginia. That's right. Mickey from West Virginia. Brandon wins by KO with a punch at two minutes and six seconds of round one.

Let's be honest. This was a dare on Mickey's part. One of his friends was like, I dare you to fight. He's like, all right, fine. And that happened 11 times. He was so blackout drunk he forgot. So seven and five now for Brandon. It's bringing us to three weeks later uh february 18th 2012 way

too often you're still sore yeah jesus from the first one first one it's never gone away this is naafs caged vengeance 10 the last one was caged fury 16 that was three weeks ago now they're doing caged vengeance 10 so they have the cave the Fury series and then the Caged Vengeance series running parallel. This is versus Nick the Savage Duel. Yeah. The Savage. He's an 11 and 5 career fighter, the Savage is. And Brandon beats the Savage.

Great. He beats him here. He wins with a KO with a punch at 2 minutes and 42 seconds of round 2 bringing his record to 8 and 5 Brandon so there's Brandon now now he's set to fight a guy named Roger Bowling and this is like kind of the battle of Ohio type of thing he's

from Neville Ohio so they're making a big local deal out of this like hey two local guys are going to fight but no one pays any attention to Brandon it's like Roger Bowling this guy and they talk all about him and his upbringing and everything. He's fighting this other guy from Ohio. I think that's it. So apparently Bowling, he had a tough life.

His father was a drug addict. He was in and out of jail, and his mother had three jobs and drove the school bus and all that shit to support the family. He played baseball and football and all this type of thing. He was kind of a fighter, like a bar fighter and a street fighter type of guy. And when he was 18 years old, he went to live with his girlfriend and then go to a vocational school to learn welding. That's no good. No, not if you want to be a pro fighter uh he has a background

in amateur boxing apparently he had a nine and oh uh amateur boxing record roger bowling so he's a stand-up guy and uh he did a lot of like tough man type competitions he would go around and do these ohio kimbo slice yeah he'd pick up 200 bucks beating the shit out of some bum in a bar type of guy and uh then he ended up getting introduced to mma and he started to do uh to do well and uh he fights this fight is on a ronda rousey card oh this is a big deal in 2012 yeah it's uh the fights on on the uh it's strike force tate versus rousey oh it's that way yeah did you see this fight okay well then you saw this fight too tate so she's that one. Yeah, did you see this fight? Yeah. Okay, well, then you saw this fight, too. Tate, she's a good fighter. Yeah, well, then you saw this fight, too, then.

Go on. On the undercard. I'm listening. This is on the undercard here. This is his big shock. He's fighting this Roger Boling guy. If he makes a showing, he can do something with himself. Grace.

This is Grace. An undercard bout with Ronda Rousey as the headline that's grace that's tough stuff that's grace for him he hasn't even fought the fight yet this pre-fight is great this might be grace for rousey too i think it is this is about grace grace for everyone on this card this is the gray it's called gray that's actually strike force grace tate versus Rousey. March 3rd, 2012. This is at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, so this isn't the Lawrenceville Motorcycle Speedway. It's a different story.

And he's fighting Relentless Roger Bowling. That's his name. That's scary. Relentless. He's a 12-6 career fighter, Roger, total in his career. At this point, though, he's a little better better than that and this fight goes into the second round and at 115 in round two brandon loses by tko to punches so this guy he's trying to because this guy likes to stand up too yeah so

james is relentless he's relentless god damn it he's so fucking relentless so brandon wants to stand up with him because that's what he feels like is his strength, too. But you're not a 9-0 amateur boxer. You don't fight against a guy named Relentless. And that guy concentrated on nothing but boxing for nine fights and nothing but his hands and fought other boxers and beat them all. So he's probably pretty good with his fucking hands. Try to wrestle that guy, maybe. Bite his ankle.

Something. Shit. So this brings Brandon to eight and six. Not terrific here at all. Now, he's got another fight set. That's on March 30th. He's got another fight set for June 2nd. He's supposed to fight a guy named Chris Goldbaugh, who was two and one at the time.

He's got some rest coming up. And finished his career at two and two. The guy he's supposed to fight, by the way. This fight is canceled, though. It is canceled. Not the card. Just fight is canceled and let's find out why oh boy uh strike force ceo scott coker uh who is this is a less silver move here uh he made the announcement he makes an announcement at the post of fight press conference for rousey tate so there's that it's the they have the main event and then afterwards they have a press conference for rousey tate so there's that it's the they have the main event and then afterwards they have a press conference and winners and losers and all that he makes an

announcement there uh about brandon and the fact that uh they found some after he just got his ass kick after he just got his ass kick during the fight some background information came out on brandon that he did not put on his application and that we haven't covered yet because hey it didn't come up we'll talk about it as it happens which is now so uh he says scott coker the ceo of strike force said quote we had no knowledge about that until someone brought it up to us this evening it came to our attention during the course of the fights so someone literally was like googling this guy while he was fighting and then went to the CEO and was like, did you know about this? Yeah. And they were like, no.

Well, what the fuck is it? Didn't even Google this motherfucker, apparently. Well, first of all, the tattoos were prompted an investigation to begin with. Sure. They were looking into them. It's weird. That's a good point. This whole time he's had his shirt off he's had a shirt yeah they're mma is having a hard time from everything i'm reading about this and with dealing with this type of shit they don't know

how to deal with it they don't know because honestly speech and shit like that not only that they don't want to alienate a shitload of their fan base who are fucking a lot of nazis or their not to be whatever too because there's a lot of people are just regular people watching i'm not saying that if you watch this you're a white supremacist but there's a lot of dudes who are a little white supremacist who fucking watch mma it's true and i don't know if you want to you don't see fox news going on condemning that shit either because it's part of their audience you know what i mean i'm sure the reporters themselves feel that they're bad people but they don't want to

alienate 30 of their crowd unless for megan kelly so yeah unless she doesn't care so no but that's i feel and that's not a shot against anything that's a it's not a shot i'm not saying fucking republicans are nazis that's not what i'm saying at all i'm just saying that some people are nazis and and those people tend to vote republican oh yeah and i'm voting a whole lot of democrat put it that way yeah sure didn't vote for obama probably not probably not so uh either way yeah so they're looking into this thing they say that uh there's a full investigation launch but the tattoos were brought up the investigation like i said they're having a hard time figuring out where the line is with this shit. And what is freedom of speech? And what is also something somebody might have done when they were younger?

Maybe they don't even believe in that. Right. Maybe they made a conscious decision to veer away from that. Exactly. Because that happens, too. People see the errors of their ways. That happens. It's not completely impossible.

Unfortunately, I can't cover that up anymore. Yeah. I'm here fighting. Yeah. Everybody knows. It's got to come off. It's got to come off. It's got to come off. So the Coker guy said, quote, they're going to launch a full investigation on Monday.

So that's where that's at. As far as you guys know, the policy for Strikeforce and UFC is that is that kind of body art, offensive behavior and offensive art are not going to be allowed. So that's something we went to the athlete with. He responded. And we're going to investigate further and that's something we went to the athlete with he responded and we're going to investigate further and see what the truth is uh he declined to get into the conversation that he had with with uh with with salig here but he now talks about a couple days later two days later the executive director of the ohio athletic commission who who is Bernie Profato. Hey, Profato, how you doing?

He announces that Brandon's fighter license has been revoked. It's been revoked. Not for the tattoos, mind you. That's not why it's revoked. He told the MMA, he told a press journalist of some kind, MMA journalist, that Brandon falsified information on his application for a license by failing to disclose

he had ever been convicted of a crime other than a traffic offense. Uh-huh. I haven't told you yet, but he's been convicted of plenty of shit that's not a traffic offense.

Really? That he hid on his application. He didn't tell anybody anything. Nobody knew about and a simple Google search would have found it and nobody fucking bothered. And they didn't even,

they didn't see 88 lightning bolt, lightning bolt and go let's look into this just traffic let's just check it out yeah let's assess yeah that looks that looks like some shit you get you know in jail right if you're afraid right you know you join up with them and they get a stupid tattoo and now you're yeah now you're protected now you're protected yeah that's that's what it looks like to me uh but i don't know so uh he said that this guy says the omission put Brandon in violation of the administrative code by the bylaws that govern MMA in Ohio, which states that a fighter's license can be suspended or revoked if he or she has violated any law with respect to any sports regulated by the commission or any rule or order of the commission or has been convicted of a felony. So let's get into this shit. Profoto also said, we're not going to speculate until we have the facts. He's innocent until proven guilty.

If it's on his application and we missed it, we do apologize. So they're saying if it's not, if he did put the shit that he was in trouble for down and we just missed it, that's our fuck up. We shouldn't have let him in, but we did. And that's our bad. But he's saying we don't think we missed it so i think he missed it yeah they said he notified sailing uh by certified mail of their decision to revoke his license and he's entitled to a hearing if he wants one uh here now uh brandon said that uh he'll have his first opportunity to challenge the license ratification meeting like a week later. He has.

And if he wants to challenge the decision, he'll be able to. He can use an attorney. He can get witnesses. He can basically present a case for himself of why he's a good guy. And, you know, any counter evidence that would compel them to reverse the course on the whole thing here. that would compel them to reverse the course on the whole thing here. So in addition to this, of his license suspension in Ohio, also Nick Lembo of the New Jersey Athletic Control Board announces that Brandon's license is also suspended

and revoked in New Jersey for falsifying information on his license application there as well. So those are the states he was licensed in, and they fucking yanked it from him. So now he's in real trouble yeah what the fuck did he do yeah what did he do to cause this whole thing let's find out where's the cross on fire well there's it's kind of worse yeah i yeah i would rather he's just burning crosses on fire uh what did he do well let's start with november 28th 2007 he's living in cumberland iowa yeah this is right before he starts fighting uh he's i'm sorry ohio oh okay ohio yeah you're like what it's all ohio what the hell is he doing

cumberland ohio he's arrested for assault on november 28th 2007 regular old assault uh this charge ends up being dismissed by the prosecutor uh for i don't know if the victim didn't want to deal with it, lack of evidence one way or another. So that's November 28, 2007. January 5, 2008, he's arrested in Ohio for assault. These are things you needed to put on your application that he didn't put on his application. And it gets worse, mind you. He ends up with a guilty plea out of this one but does no time

and it doesn't appear that even got probation i don't know if this was one of those they gave him one of those suspended yeah you know what's whatever it's called there i think maybe that's one of those but it doesn't appear to even got probation he didn't seem to be on the books for anything on this uh for an assault so that's january 5th 2008 january 29 2008 he's arrested for domestic violence what the fuck man this is another fucking issue two weeks later this is yeah two weeks later no six months later so january january to july oh okay july july 29 2008 he's arrested for domestic violence there so that is you know in the last seven eight months three assault arrests that he'd never told them about on his applications and it gets worse yeah well

that's not domestic violence that's way worse way worse he didn't get in a fight in a bar he didn't punch some other guy this is zv this is bad he beat up uh yeah a woman in his house here. Not okay here. So he ends up here, there, that he's arrested July 29th. August 27th, less than a month later, he's arrested again for domestic violence. No. Less than a month later, he's arrested again for domestic violence. Why is he on the street? How many fucking assaults is this? Yeah.

That's four in a row. That's four assaults in less than a year. That's crazy. Two of which domestically that's wow this is crazy uh looks like from everything that i found here uh it looks like they rolled both domestic violences into one case and let him allowed him to plead guilty to a misdemeanor first degree domestic violence charge ohio you are so lenient this guy i don't know what the fuck it is with this guy i don't know if he had a lawyer in the family that helped out or what but i don't know what it is but they had him plead guilty to misdemeanor first degree

violence he has to serve 40 days in jail out of this because it's two domestic violence charges not to mention a month not to mention the other two assaults from earlier in the year the judge has to look at that and go control yourself 40 days and this is all right before he started fighting this is like this is like his training yeah like it's fucking ridiculous i'm pretty good at this yeah i'm gonna fight in people that can't fight i'm two and oh against my girlfriend let's try a fucking pro fighter now like two and oh against my girlfriend in the kitchen i haven't let's try this in her cage and see how it works out. What a fucking asshole. Try it against somebody expecting it.

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Try to get somebody who's also making a fist with their hands, you know, that sort of shit. So, I mean, this is 40 days in fucking jail. He gets out of, he does 40 days and this is right before he starts fighting. Right. So he basically does 40 days and then starts fighting.

days and this is right before he starts fighting right so he basically does 40 days and then starts fighting and he has to like i don't know if i don't know if uh maybe jail uh-huh got him into the mma or maybe jail got him into the the tattoos because i don't there's no pictures started one of the two right something there's no pictures of him that i can find that are available i'm sure they exist but that are available to the public of him pre-fighting so i don't know if he had when he got these tattoos i'd love to see a picture of him in like 2006 to see if he had the tattoos before jail or not he doesn't so that's what i mean and how soft is he that 40 days in prison he's like fuck it white supremacist me up yeah not even prison in jail fucking county county yeah you're getting lightning bolts in county

yeah jesus they let you keep your clothes there half the time what the fuck are you doing yeah you get a uniform jesus christ you're wearing a shirt for christ's sake nobody can even see it he comes home apparently at this point he came home um to his uh to his home where the one he shared with his girlfriend there and he was fucking in a rage because a he just got out of jail right and he said uh apparently the house was all fucked up on top of it like when he went away like the house is fucked up and she's gone and and now uh that's gonna lead to more domestic violence i have a feeling yeah uh here but i mean the first things first he's got to fix up the house and he's how he has to there's no he can't live there like this so uh first things first, he's got to fix up the house. He has to. You can't live there like this.

So first things first, the toilet's got to flush. So he calls for some help. And it's Paul Calhoun, shit pipe enthusiast. And he says. How is it you come to arrive here, guy? What the fuck is wrong with you? What are you doing? You're a fucking jerk-off.

You're bouncing all over the place. I see you're fighting this guy four times in a fucking year. What's wrong with you? To put a shirt on? What's wrong? Put your fucking shirt on with your Nazi tattoos. Get the hell out of here with that shit. I tell you what.

I think you took my jingle a little too seriously there, pal. We'll put it that way. It's supposed to be all in a funny light. Hey, ha ha, you know, you smack your wife. But you don't really smack your wife. Nobody fucking, what is wrong with you? Jesus. Hey, I got a new one for you, as a matter of fact. Just for you, because you could use a new one, because you're

an asshole and you don't know. It's call Cal Hoons. Cal Hoons. We cleaned, see, before we cleaned shit pipes and we smacked your wife, but I got to do something different for you. Calhouns, we cleaned your pipes with a snake. Now keep your wife nice and safe. Hey, how's that?

Clean your pipes with a snake. Keep your wife nice and safe. Huh? There you go. It doesn't rhyme that well, but for you, it doesn't matter at this point. We can't just tell you to do, oh, how about this? Your toilet flush is better. Take your wife out to dinner.

How's that? Huh? Take her out to a nice place two years go to the olive garden you sit down all you can eat breadsticks you know what i'm saying never end imposter bowl you do something that's the most italian way of making dinner and better rock your toilet flush is better take your wife out to dinner. You know, you do that. That's how it works. No, I don't know. Never mind. You're beyond fucking help.

You're a jerk off. I'm getting out of here. Poof. And in a poof of shit and PVC, he's gone. Amazing. And Brandon is very confused. Did he just make those rhymes? I think he did.

I really got to get rid of this tattoo. Brandon got all mad and he's like not us you you take her out to dinner Jesus relax guy quit swinging at me what a fucking mess that's bad enough all these domestic violences and assaults and visits from Paul Calhoun and everything else his life is clearly in shambles

before he even started fighting that's not it though let's go back a little further we were going back 2007 2008 right before he was fighting but we got to go back a little further younger still younger still to find out something absolutely fucking horrible that he did uh he was arrested at 18 years old here this was october 8th 2004 what's her name uh he was arrested uh he was arrested and uh with a friend of his here. He's arrested and indicted in connection with an alleged rape of a person under 13.

Under 13. He's 18 fucking years old. How is he not in prison? Details, my friend. Apparently, it was him and some other fucking jerk off that he was hanging out with here a uh james t allen who was also 18 a guy from sarasville uh these idiots apparently were investigating they were the sheriff's department noble county sheriff's office was investigating the disappearance of a 12 a 12 year old girl and her 13-year-old sister. God, Jesus. Which is a problem, obviously.

Now, the sheriff there, Landon Smith, said the girl's parents allowed them to go to an all-night birthday party at a friend's house. One of those sleepover birthday parties that eighth graders have. Yeah. Sleepover birthday party at a friend's house in Monroe County. Now, the parents apparently found out that the girls left the party with these two 18 year old fucking idiots why did they do that why did they take them that's my question these two eight well i'll give you a hint uh yeah the brandon sailing and it was james t allen take these girls away from the party and each of them is charged with a first degree felony rape of a person under 13 years old.

Wow. At 18 years old? At 18 years old. You're going to rape a 12-year-old. Why aren't they in prison forever? Let's find out here. The girl's parents had allowed them to go out, like we said. The sheriff said, quote, when the parents went to pick up their daughters, they discovered they had left the party during the night. The suspects allegedly had shown up at the birthday party and asked the girls to go for a ride with them uh then they were not returned to the birthday party and following

an extensive search the girls were located in a camper in stock township so they took these fucking little girls to a camper to have sex with them vile absolutely fucking disgusting uh here uh he ends up being convicted of something here but not uh it's not rape it's uh because he's 18 years old they they give him a plead and they allow him to plead to gross sexual imposition you're right what part of that is correct yeah gross yes it's gross it's not even. And it was certainly an imposition. So gross rape imposition. Can they call it that? Because that's all what it is.

If it's a 12 year old girl, I want the word rape in there. Absolutely. You fucking deserve that shit, you asshole. Unbelievable. Yeah. He apparently is convicted, like I said, for gross sexual imposition and is listed after that on the Ohio Sex Offender Registry. So that is far too lenient. These that's ridiculous that they that they he didn't get more than that.

But I with 18 year olds, sometimes they're trying to you get a judge that's got sympathy for a younger person and thinks that they can, you know, they deserve another chance. And no, no, they don't't boys if bullshit you have a dick you have a responsibility that's right you have a responsibility to to make sure that yes is echoing not only yes it and these girls she is 18 there you go these girls might have been enthusiastic and fucking waving them in who cares they're 12. I don't give a shit. That's what Chris Hansen rings them up for. Fuck, yeah. You can't do that.

12 is not. No. No matter how interested they are, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter at all. Doesn't fucking matter. You make sure of what you have. Yeah. She also liked the Powerpuff Girls.

Don't have sex with her, you fucking idiot. Unbelievable. How do you think that that's okay? You fucking, you don't. That's why you take them to a camper somewhere and have sex with her, you fucking idiot. Unbelievable. How do you think that that's okay? You fucking, you don't. That's why you take them to a camper somewhere and have sex with them. If they thought it was okay that I had sex with them at the house. That is horrific. In Arizona, if you are knowledgeable of your child under 18 having sex with another child that's under 18, you're responsible for that.

Okay, that's crazy. That's bananas, right? When you get into under 18, it's like if two 17-year-olds fuck, that's not any of anybody's for that okay that's crazy when i get into under 18 it's like if two 17 year olds fuck that's not any of anybody's business your problem it's not my problem or business unless they come up with a child then that's my problem other than that i don't want to know what 17 year olds are fucking each other sorry i mean what are we gonna you're gonna put you in jail for fucking your boyfriend or girlfriend? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. It's so stupid. If you're both underage.

Yeah. And if you're both of age, who gives a shit at that point? There you go. But that's what it is. You can't. 12. What do you see? Have you ever looked at a 12-year-old and been like, she's going to be hot one day or

she's hot now? No. No. Never, ever, ever, ever. No. No. I don't even know what to say about that. Horrible.

He is listed as high risk on the sex offender list as well. As a reoffender? Yeah, they just list him under the high risk category of, hey, watch this asshole because he fucks kids. Sounds a problem. You know, pedophile category. So let's talk about some silver haired middle aged white men that made all this possible. That made a guy with four assaults, two domestic violence assaults and a fucking underage rape charge. Uh, how they didn't bother that shit. Uh, basically here, the NAAFS, uh, they employed sailing for a couple of fights, including an amateur fight and then also two professional fights.

Uh, and they, uh, that led him to be signed by strike force after that now uh the the naafs ceo uh greg calicas says he was just completely shocked to hear about his criminal he says jesus christ i was completely shocked not only to learn about his criminal background but his association association with Nazi symbolism as well. He tries to claim, as a grown man, he didn't know an 88 with lightning bolts didn't mean Nazi shit. A guy who fucking owns an MMA company didn't know that. He's never seen that before. He says, quote, I was really as surprised as everyone else that knew Brandon, to be quite honest.

Are you out of your fucking mind? I can't say I had a lot of direct one-on-one contact with him. He's usually dealt with our matchmaker, but the times that I've seen Brandon and watched him interact with other fighters and fans, we would have never seen this coming. We are very surprised. How do you not know that? Well, first of all, you could have Googled it

and fucking found it. This isn't 1987. This is 2012. Google it. You would have found that. You know how easy it is? Google right now. Pick up your it. This isn't 1987. This is 2012. Right. Google it. You would have found that. You know how easy it is? Google right now. Pick up your phone.

Google Brandon Saling. You will find an arrest within the first fucking page. You'll find rape charges. It's fucking ridiculous. You can very easy to search this shit. Forget the white supremacist part. That's the fucking that's the part that puts it entirely over. And then when he was standing in front of you shirtless you see he's a fucking nazi on top of it jesus christ god damn it an actual nazi actual this isn't just like soup nazi or something no he's not just a phrase he's not just

real ocd about some shit he actually is yeah he's into nazi shit. This guy continued, the Calacast continued, obviously we weren't aware his criminal record or his tattoos or what they stood for. Obviously that's something we wouldn't condone. Our state athletic commission is investigating the matter and we'll let them do their job and leave it in their hands at this point. We had no idea, and if we did, we certainly wouldn't have allowed him to fight and represent the NAAFS. It's really not that obvious. It really not it's pretty obvious the criminal background check was

the even the state athletic commission missed it somehow how i didn't miss it i'm a fucking idiot i didn't miss it how did you miss it there's a million websites that do background checks where that would have popped up i i found all the shit on there i found fucking speeding tickets of this guy unbelievable jesus christ uh they said that uh uh they said uh he makes no excuses the sale of the kalakis guy no excuses for his organization when it comes to the the the tattoos uh for honest you know the tattoos he said quote i'm not going to make any excuse we missed it obviously other people missed it but fighters are tattooed from top to bottom. And at some point, it's just hard to catch everything. He's not tattooed from top to bottom.

On his whole, he has the thing on his stomach, little thing across his chest from like collarbone. What are these bones here? Clavicle. Clavicle to clavicle. And then on his shoulder, the only thing there right in the front is an 88 with two fucking lightning bolts around it. It's not mixed in with mural. And I'll bet that 88 really fucking stands out. Oh, you see it.

He's a bright white guy with fucking, he's a ginger with 88 on his fucking thing. He says, yeah, at some point it's just hard to catch everything. To be quite honest, even if I would have looked for that tattoo and seen it, I wouldn't have known what it meant. I consider myself somewhat educated, but I would have never't have known what it meant i consider myself somewhat educated but i would have never known that's what it meant i learned from this mistake and it's something we'll be looking for moving forward you know the only person on earth that's more famous than jesus is fucking hitler fucking hitler everybody knows who he is dumb and everybody knows what his lightning bolts mean that's one of the silverest statements fucking ever.

He didn't just say, man, normally they make excuses. You know, he's not a bad guy or, you know, he's a misunderstood. He literally said, I don't know. I didn't know that was a Nazi thing. He literally just went, oh, really? Wow. News to me. Had me right over the head.

Had me. Wow. How many jokes are explained to him on a daily basis? What a stupid man. You're an idiot. What a fucking dummy. Wow. A guy in that environment knows what that shit means.

Come on. So he also says Kalakis said he can't imagine it's going to be easy for Brandon to find a job fighting anywhere after this. I'm surprised that guy's still the boss. No shit. He might not be now. Shouldn't be. They should have been. It should be harder for you to find a job not one that deals with anybody who's shirtless put it that way he says uh quote unless the commission investigating reveals new information that we don't have i have to say no on whether he could fight again for his promotion he says which is actually pretty unfortunate to be honest

because we're all people we're all for we're all for people and fighters getting a second and third opportunity and for all we know brandon is turning his life around and i'm sure he still can but the way things currently stand i'd have to say no but let's see what happens when the investigation is finalized and we can go from there wow he dude this is like his ninth chance man dude he fucking raped a kid and beat his fucking girlfriend twice one two three right later that's strike three and i don't even mean for professional just asshole reasons but he did that that's one and the other time because i don't count the other assaults who knows what happened there we're even bypassing two that's fine we're giving him two giving you two i'm spotting you two assaults and you're still kicked out still done fucking idiot bring

him up good god he even says this is amazing uh quote the whole thing is disappointing disappointing and saddening to us and we feel bad for the kids that were involved and for the people that were offended offended and for brandon in a sense for all we know he's trying to change his life and become a good person and the last thing we want to do is interfere with that. But times have changed in America today. In 1942, you dipshit. At what time in America was it okay to rape 12-year-olds? And has that been okay?

That's a damn good point, too. I was even sidestepping that. What the fuck? Times have changed. You can't have that Nazi paraphernalia anymore. That was fucking 60 years ago, man. The moment World War fucking II, the second we fucking sent one guy to start training, Nazi tattoos were bad at that point.

Then it was done. They're out. They've been done for 60 years, and it was never okay to fuck 12-year-olds, except in the 1800s when we used to marry them off at that age. But in fucking 2011, not acceptable. Gross. And not acceptable for a long time unless you were a famous musician. But other than that, not acceptable.

Then you could marry children at that point. Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis and everybody else. As long as you make an honest child i make an honest jesus you make an honest fourth grader out of her mister fucking terrible the honest honor roll student out of her one day an honest sophomore out of that young lady tell you that right now An honest sophomore out of that young lady. I'll tell you that right now.

Oh, it's so awful. Jeez. You all right? You going to have a stroke there? What the hell was that? I just threw up. He just threw up in the bottom. God, that hurts so bad oh my god

never okay to fuck kids sophomore is the word that does it that word ruins me I had a joke with sophomore six months ago or so and you lost your shit too you love that word it's so descriptive I just threw up that amazing unbelievable that's fucking amazing so he's blaming this on changing times people are so sensitive today right not liking child rape and nazis and all what the fuck is

going on i think people are too sensitive i think that is the right amount of sensitivity to not like Nazis and kid fuckers. Sorry. It's crazy how he, those are the, those are the two that collectively we all agree that those are two, the worst thing. Those are the bad things. If you're a Nazi kid fucker, you're the worst. And this guy's just like, you know, in this economy, what are we going to do? Then he said the fact that salig lied on his application

to the commission and that's something he'll have to deal with uh should he choose to reapply or appeal their decision even if he is approved i say he might be untouchable and uh he says you know because of his tattoos also it's a problem uh this is fucking amazing then the guy says quote calicakis or calicac cocksucker here cal Cala silver haired cocksucker says sometimes you can't run from your past. And unfortunately, it looks like this is going to be one of those situations. The whole thing sounds like it's just he's so it's so unfortunate that poor Brandon has to suffer the consequences of child rape. That's so unfortunate. Are you kidding me, man?

Unbelievable. This guy's a fucking asshole and the fact that he blames it on things have changed in america you can't even have visible nazi tattoos anymore and have people not look at you askew jesus christ scream women's lib or some shit yeah yeah no shit it's all these damn feminazis going out there saying we can't rape children and such and wear Nazi tattoos. I don't understand it. Whatever.

Fucking ridiculous. So Budweiser at this point, he said they come out and make a statement about this whole thing because they get wind of this and they're a major sponsor of all this shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They said that they're talking about sexism and homophobia inside UFC has gotten pretty bad at Anheuser-Busch. Anheuser-Busch isn't known for its liberalism, progressiveness. They're not known for that shit, really. They're super not.

They said that they were publicly threatening to remove sponsorship money. They told Ad Age, which is an ad media thing. Quote, we've communicated to the UFC our displeasure with certain remarks made by some of its fighters, and they have promised to address this. If the incidents continue, we will act. So they're threatening to pull fucking millions. I mean, that's their money. That's all that matters to them. The Gatorade of domestic violence is pulling out fuck yeah they're like who what are our people gonna drink before they

beat their wives now can't have that what are they gonna drink before they get a nazi tattoo put on their chest they need something here budweiser it dulls the pain yeah and they were saying how that kind of like cryptic like threat is never made in public by big sponsors they were saying get your fucking shit together wow and that wasn't even that was just because this brought attention to this and made budweiser go well we sponsor ufc and we hear a lot about your fucking nazis in there too we're not gonna have this shit was that like a tweet i wish that was a tweet no they said it's they said it to uh at age okay uh now i wish it was a tweet. That would have been great. I'd retweet the fuck out of that.

That's amazing. That's a great screenshot and retweet. So Dana White has shit to say about this now. Also, obviously, whatever he is, the leader of the fucking UFC. The weirdo. Yeah. He said, quote, apparently what this guy did is he lied on his application to the Athletic Commission in Ohio, and he lied on his application to the Athletic Commission in Ohio, and he lied on his application to the Athletic Commission in New Jersey.

So to the best of my understanding, obviously this guy is never going to fight for us again, and he might not ever fight again. I know he has been suspended by both states, and then all these other commissions follow a suspension from other states. And for this guy to ever get licensed again, he'd have to have a hearing for the athletic commission. I find it hard to believe that this guy will ever be licensed again, so he better go find another job. Can we stop minimizing what he did? He didn't lie. That's what they keep saying. He fucking raped a child.

Let's talk about what he lied about. Right. Which is domestic violence and under 12, under 13 fucking gross sexual imposition to be fucking factual rape. But the point is, if he discloses that, he's not getting a license, right? Is that what you get? Yes. Is that what Dana's saying, though?

Dana's not saying that. Dana's just saying he lied. He's there. Dana, how about you say, if he would have disclosed what he did yeah wouldn't have had fights anyway that's the thing well he's there and he it's so weird they're just they're just concentrating on the line they're not concentrating on what got him there rather than saying we don't want a person in our organization who would do the shit that he did right and he if we knew that if he didn't wouldn't have lied about it we wouldn't have let him in right because we don't need assholes like that stand on that pedestal

maybe we'll have some fucking respect for you not the well he didn't fill his application out correctly which is uh that's really not the point no super missing the point here like by a fucking long shot and you wonder why your fucking sports a joke yeah you don't even you don't even stand on the right pedestal, you dickhead. No. Morally, this is not a thing. And no sports are, honestly. So we don't expect moral shit out of sports.

I really don't. That's why we do this show. But when we know what the infraction really is, you don't have to be cryptic anymore. I feel like the NFL, as shitty as they've been to everything and as much as they've let domestic violence go and all this shit and they let greg hardy back in the league 20 times and all that sort of shit here i find it hard to believe that if a guy had a fucking child rape charge they would be okay with it and just be like well he shouldn't align on his application they'd be like that thing has that type of person has no place in our league and family and the fans and the kids and the and they'd show the flag and they're gonna fucking fly over and they'd fucking have the press conference 21 gun salute sponsored by pepsi sponsored by budweiser and pepsi and and

the fucking army it's like what happened so uh he appeals the decision why he's got balls he has to go before that commission and go i'm cool right this is all good right uh in a three to zero vote the ohio athletic commission denied brandon's appeal on a license revocation uh that was handed down uh he recently they're saying you know talking about him uh he says about this, this is decent, actually. Brandon says, quote, it's fair. I falsified my application when they talked to him afterwards. So no shit, asshole. Brandon, you raped a child. You gross sexually indecent.

You imposed yourself sexually in a super gross way. Not okay. That's what you did. That's not okay. You didn't lie. It's fucking gross. And then lied about it on top of that uh he says that the revocation uh runs until the next year 2013 and if he wants to fight

in ohio after that he needs to reappear before the commission to show just cause as to why he should be reinstated uh he says he'll likely reapply when the term runs its course uh the New Jersey Athletic Control Board issued a separate license for evocation like we talked about, and that one runs until June of 2012. So that's like an every three months thing. So he can reapply after that, and he says he doesn't know whether he's going to reapply for that. So I think it costs money, too. So you wouldn't want to. If you're not going to fight in Jersey anyway, you're going to wait.

I think it costs money, too, so you wouldn't want to. If you're not going to fight in Jersey anyway, you're going to wait. Now, what ended up happening is on the application to the Athletic Commission, it asks about previous convictions beyond traffic offenses, and he just marked no. That's no good. Just no, and he had a lot more than that. So, yeah, he's a fucking mess, basically. They said that he's not UFC. he uh he's a fucking mess basically they said that he's not ufc's uh dana white said he'd never fight under the zufa zuffa what was that company name zuffa umbrella again um and he says that uh

brandon says he made grave mistakes earlier in his life but he's been trying to better himself and he says he's not a member of any white supremacist groups or anything like that uh you know despite his tattoos and all that sort of shit. He said, he's just I'm just a nice guy. Made a couple mistakes. And by the way, I mentioned not a Nazi. Is that what he said? He said he's not a member of any white supremacist group.

You know what? Let's do an in their own words on this. This is great. Let's give this dickhead and in their own words, and then we can mock him more. Let's do in their own words and then we can mock him more. Terrific. Let's do in their own words. Quote, everyone thinks I'm this child predator, like I'm hiding out in the bushes being this sick fuck kind of person. That's not me by no means. The charges were because of the age difference between us.

It's not like I held anyone down and made them do anything. I know what I did was wrong and I wish i could go back but i can't i can get my tattoos covered up if that's the problem with me fighting for anybody i can get it covered up maybe i could change it no no he's missing the point you missed the point you missed the fuck it's not like she's 12 right it doesn't fucking matter i didn't violently fuck her do you understand 18 12 doesn't matter doesn't matter doesn't matter you at 18 have so much more of a mental capacity to convince an innocent child to do something that they don't know what the fuck they're even doing you're a fucking asshole so

that is the same as holding her down because you talked her into it because she doesn't know any better because she wouldn't do it in the seventh grade for christ's sake jesus my son just turned 12 he's in the sixth grade yeah you know's sake. Jesus, my son just turned 12. He's in the sixth grade. You know how fucking young that is? That's too young. It's ridiculous. Fuck me.

God, what a fucking asshole. I hate this fucking guy. This guy's pissing me off. I didn't hold her down. Unbelievable. The fact that you have to be just contrite and 100% like I was a terrible person. What I did is unforgivable. It's horrible and if you don't want me fighting

in there, I understand. I wouldn't want me fighting there either. But I'll tell you what, I'll tattoo this into pedophile. I'll change this into kid fucker. Whatever you'd like. I'll make the 88 in a couple daisies. What do you say? Four daisies it's

gonna look like snack all lined up next to each other that's the only thing that makes it better sir if you make lightning bolts and eight eight into kid fucker kid fucker if you do that fight away yeah you know what there you go that's your penance you want to brand yourself with kid fucker we'll let you fight you got enough words on your chest that people will get confused anyway and you can only fight really good fighters that are warming up for better fights those are the only guys you're allowed to fight of a different weight class you fight heavyweights or in training from now on that's it and they don't wear any pads on their hands but the good news is you're getting double pay so double pay there's that and explode him in the ring fucking unbelievable everybody

i have to have to go through one more time because that just was so infuriating everyone thinks i'm like this child predator like i'm hiding out in the bushes being this sick fuck kind of person yeah yeah that's what fucking a 12 year old is oh i mean you could take that whole sentence and then just take bushes out and put the camper. That's it. Done. That's what you are. It was worse. You hit out at a party where she felt safe. You went to a 13-year-old birthday party. What does that say about you?

You're a fucking loser, bro. You're a fucking loser. And you're hanging out with the... When I was 18, if anybody said, hey, do you want to hang out with this 12-year-old chick? I would have been like, I'm not babysitting some fucking chick. No. I'm not babysitting some fucking kid. I'm trying to fuck this 17-year-old girl I to hang out with this 12 year old chick i would have been like i'm not babysitting some fucking chick no i'm not babysitting some fucking kid trying to get high trying to fuck this 17 year old girl i'm hanging out with and get high are you nuts what's happening here i would have i i would consider that babysitting at 18 a 12 year old i wouldn't want to be i

wouldn't want to be near a 12 year old within 10 miles of me i me fuck away from me when i was 20 i had a friend who was 19 and he had a girl that he knew that was 18 and she had a sister that was 15 he was like let's go hang out with these chicks at one's 18 i'm like 50 no no absolutely no the day i was out of high school meant that i'm done with high school girls i think in that situation there's a lot for you and nothing for me i'm not going no thank you i'm way too old for this shit wow i know what i did was wrong and i wish i could go back but i can't well then you can't fight either dick some things you can't go forward either sorry uh now uh it's funny too the profato guy he said the situation has made him take this the ohio state

athletic commission guy he said it's made him take a closer look at the applications of potential licensees tough decision isn't it what you feel he really feels bad for him i feel like like they all they he's such a fucking victim this brand i feel so bad for him but not nearly as bad yeah as i feel for brandon, a sales associate at Walmart. He's sailing. He fucking works the floor at Walmart and shares the name with a pedophile Nazi. This guy's life is not great. In Salinas, California. Someone, if you know Brandon, go give him a pat on the back and a hug and go, dude, it's all right, bro.

It's not irreparably fucked, bro. It's not. Unless he fucked kids, too. Then don't hug him. It's possible. Maybe he works there because he fucked kids and he can't find a better job uh you never know but i doubt it i bet that guy's okay also brandon saling uh some dude on pinterest first of all he's a man with a pinterest account so right away i feel bad for him from that uh but he does have

a nice pin for storage ideas for like old media so check that out he's got a nice box on there that i not a bad idea pretty good uh brandon salig some dude on instagram uh he has 61 followers and follows 285 people yeah only has 10 posts uh a picture picture of a pug a cat uh my kind of guy a bottle of orange crush yeah and some vague uplifting meme type things uh quote sleeping is the time to feel real freedom because there's no rules and dreaming oh a man posted that look at this guy is it at brandon sailing it's brand yeah it's i think so i don't remember but if you look him up he's about to get a shitload of new followers i think he is like oh wow great uh also brandon sailing from mylife.com uh here this poor bastard uh brandon this brandon was he's from caldwell ohio oh no uh he was born uh in 1992 so he's six years younger

but i would assume gets confused from all the time constantly uh yeah he lives uh i believe his middle initial is c also which is the same as this other one here uh he's also yeah he's been known it says on this report known as brandon c salig uh he uh is a native american a registered republican and a uh lists himself as a christian oh all the shit luck he's got that yeah uh he has also a reported annual income of 40 to 49 000 a year he's probably doing better than ours probably probably uh there so that's that and uh finally the who i feel the worst for sailing's dog obedience school in brandon florida no way swear to christ if you look up brandon sailing is that what he's doing comes up no this is just some poor bastard that lives in brandon florida and whose last name is

sailing uh started an obedience school and that's what it looks like so a nazi dog fucker will take care of your kid he does not work there own it but that's what you'd think uh it's rated an a on angie's list okay they've been around for eight years. They're doing great. I have a review from them here from one year ago. It's a B rating. Quote, Nervous dog needed leash training. Brenda was very pleasant and patient.

Her love of dogs was very apparent. Got good instruction and tools, but dog didn't make much improvement, possibly due to her anxiety and lack of owner practice. Well, then it's not their fault. Give them a fucking A. If you didn't practice with the fucking dog,

it's not their goddamn fault. I bet you they told you to practice with the fucking dog. Ask Bobby Colley. Hey, you practice with your fucking dog. What do you think? The fucking dog's going to learn it and take it home like homework? It's a fucking dog.

You got to practice with it, you fucking asshole. You only teach it so much, and then it forgets unless you practice. I teach it. Do I need to teach you more times? Maybe tell you what. Leave the dog at home. You come in for a week in the obedience school.

We'll work on you. And then you can work on the dog. They have a Groupon at the moment, so check them out. May of 2014, there's a new policy. Apparently, it's for the UFC. It asks UFC contractees to release personal information for background checks. According to what they said here, they're asked to detail their medical history as well as educational and especially criminal backgrounds. They're everything they want to know. a doctor-patient confidentiality, which would allow the doctors to discuss potential medical

issues with the UFC, which would mean that they could try to see if shit's wrong with these guys so they could pay them less money. That's what that's about. That's exactly what that's about. I guess all new fighters and even existing fighters are required to fill out the questionnaire. And they said, quote, Zufa LLC requires its contracted fighters to act in a legal and responsible manner and avoid conduct detrimental to the integrity of the UFC organization. As the UFC's highest profile independent contractors and the ambassadors of the sport of mixed martial arts, UFC fighters are held by to a high standard by Zufa, the media, and the public. It's important for Zufa to be fully informed of your background

in order to evaluate and potentially assist on a matter that may be detrimental to the integrity of the UFC organization. At least they don't try to say it's for your own good. They're like, we're making sure that we want to be associated with you because we're obviously wonderful people. We have a product to sell after you leave.

That's what it is. After you leave, while you're here, everything. We have a product to sell after you leave. That's what it is. After you leave, while you're here, everything. We were here before you, and we'll still be here after you're gone. Yeah, no, absolutely. A UFC representative said that, yeah, they've been collecting it, but the new form is more, it's got more stuff on it. They've always had a form, but this one now. A little more in-depth. Yeah, yeah.

had a form but this one now yeah yeah uh they said that uh uh the uh the uh neo-nazi tattoos or something they were looking into uh and all that sort of thing uh i guess they were talking about a fighter named german welterweight named benjamin brinza who was released after neo-nazi ties surfaced in 2014 and also in 2014 a featherweight named will chope chope was released uh after his second ufc fight when uh it was reported they figured found out that he was discharged from the air force due to a domestic violence arrest so they're finding out these things now i guess the the in the second guy the will chope case, the transgression took place five years prior to signing with the UFC and wasn't pursued in criminal or civil court following military conviction and discharge. So they gave him a little lighter deal on that. And then Chope appeared with his ex-wife in a video asking for a second chance.

And she was like, no, he's OK. It's all he's good now. Look, I see my eyes. Neither of them are black. They're healed. Everything's okay. He's good now. Look, see my eyes? Neither of them are black. They're healed. Everything's great. My teeth are a little loose. Yeah, you know, loosen them up,

but, you know, a little dental work. So, yeah, fucking ridiculous. I hate when guys do that. Beat the shit out of a woman and then make her sit next to him to tell everybody he's a good guy. So gross. Fucking disgusting.

I hate that shit. At that point, you have to plead your own case. She's not allowed to do it anymore. So, yeah. Also, he said that, you know, in your own case. She's not allowed to do it anymore. So, yeah. Also, he said in the video that he's a good guy. He deserves a second chance. He hasn't had any trouble with the law for five years. What the fuck here?

UFC makes it clear that any fighters involved in domestic violence are viewed in the harshest light. I would say child fucking would be worse, personally. I mean, domestic violence is horrible, but fucking kids is... It's a different level. Yeah. If it's Mount Rushmore, kid fucking is Washington. You know what I'm saying? Harshest level is domestic violence, unless they're saying both are the harshest level.

I would hope. Whatever. That's fine. Yeah. Standards for enforcement are unclear. That's the thing. They say it's the harshest light, but they have no... Case by case.

It's all case by case. Exactly. I haven't put in a... But we'll see how much money he makes us. You never know. He could be somebody popular. Right. I mean, if three years ago, Conor McGregor beat the shit out of his wife or girlfriend

or anybody, he'd still be fighting the next goddamn week. If Tito Ortiz was beating up Jenna Jameson while he was fighting, then we'd have a problem. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. was beating up Jenna Jameson while he was fighting, then we'd have a problem. Yeah, exactly. So UFC Dana White has said the promotion evaluates problems on a, quote,

case-by-case basis. Hell yes! Exactly what he said. That's why I was like, exactly. Wait till you hear this. What an asshole. Yep. Depends on who they are. Depends on who they are.

A fighter who feels he's been wrongly terminated has little recourse but to seek an audience with the promotion. It's all like in football and baseball. They have antitrust exemptions. So they have to deal with at some point there's government oversight to them. Sure. Everything has to be on the up and up. UFC's are not like that.

They're a private company. Right. They can do whatever the fuck they want. They can just say, can't work here anymore. Right. Bye. And then you're gone. That's unbelievable.

Yeah. So they're trying to protect its brand obviously the brand for everything uh uh one person here said a private association has their own constitution bylaws and rules they can apply or impose whatever they think those rules are and there's no claim for due process because they're not a state actor and as long as they're following their own rules they can sort of do whatever they want. The fighter can either abide by them or not, but they can't really contest them, if you will. It's a private thing.

Yeah, you can't contest shit. You know, the leader of their group is a bald man named White. It screams white supremacy from the top to the bottom. I guess. I don't know enough about it. I'm just saying, on the outside looking in, it just appears that way. Nazi tattoos, bald guy named white.

Yeah. Look at the crowd. Bald white guy named white is in charge. Yeah, that's a good point. That's horrible. Now, I found an ass. You need a black guy with an afro as the president of that company. That would be amazing.

That would be perfect. That'll calm this shit down in a second. Now, I found an asshole's opinion on this whole thing. I like to just call it an ass asshole corner we're gonna go to now this has no author name no nobody of the balls to put their name on it just the mma mma corner.com it's it says it's the mma corner staff that wrote it so not even a balls to put your name on this quote fuck i you're gonna be screaming and you're just let me finish okay quote some symbols most famously the swastika have multiple meanings long before the third reich the swastika represented good luck in many cultures

not any fucking more if anything represents bad luck it's that shit uh there have been books written on the topic and there's a heavily yes we know the tibetan blah blah blah you're not fucking smart because you think that shit idiot uh there have been books written on the topic and there's a heavily yes we know the tibetan you're not fucking smart because you think that shit idiot uh there have been books written on the topic and there's a heavily tattooed individual going by the name of man woman i don't know who that is who has sought to free the symbol from its negative past and return it to its original meaning as a symbol of good fortune that would be like if the n-word was originally positive it's kind of tainted now. Sorry. You can't bring back three million Jews that that symbolizes.

And Charlie Chaplin had that mustache and everybody loved him. So certain things are tainted and ruined at some point here. Some things go away. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. Man-woman happens to be covered in swastika tattoos, but he is definitely not a neo-Nazi. As it says on its website, quote, I'm re-sanctifying the swastika, which was used for centuries as a symbol for good luck and profoundly sacred creative energy, the true self, by Greeks, Romans, Celts, Vikings, Christians, and yes, even Jews. Africans, Mayans, the fact that they said that means he's a Nazi, and yes, even Jews.

He said Jews. Africans Mayans the fact that they said that means he's a not and yes even Jews he said geez Africans Mayans Aztecs Chinese Hindus uh Buddhists Tibetans Hopi Cree and wandering Neolithic tribes no go fuck your mother it's over dude the number 88 is actually another good example as it represents good luck in Chinese culture yeah because these fucking bald assholes walk around they're really into Chinese culture and they're because these fucking bald assholes walking around, they're really into Chinese culture. And they're like, you know, I put 88 on because it's good luck

for the Chinese. Fucking idiots. I just love the chinks. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's not us. That's a fucking Nazi. That's what he's quoting.

Somebody would go, Jimmy just said no. So it's what it is, though. Yeah, he says, it's actually blah, blah, blah. Does Zufa refuse to sign a chinese fighter with the number 88 tattooed on his body simply because they've determined the symbol always means it's one bearing a neon if he's from china you can have the fucking 88 how

about that as a fucking exception if you're from china and you have a fucking heavy accent and you say bring a good luck and they go yes fine fuck me i'm sorry i can't take it anymore he puts light on either side of it fuck out of here fuck out of here yeah jesus uh blah blah blah i would hope not he says i would hope you wouldn't keep this guy he's just a defender of this is an asshole quote the point is that beyond the most obvious cases of body art representing hate swastikas combined with other neo-nazi imagery nope Nope. Swastika is good enough. That's the one. For example, we cannot expect everyone on the commission or within the MMA promotion to know and screen for every piece of hate imagery.

There's a few Nazi ones that are big. You can keep an eye on. Nor can we make the assumption that certain symbol stands for hate. Yeah, you can. You can absolutely do. Jesus. Yeah, you can. You can absolutely do.

Jesus. Instead, the commissions and promotions need to better educate themselves on these topics, maybe bring in a consultant with an expertise in tattoo symbology. Then, through a background check, the literal body of artwork should be interpreted as a whole and taken in context with the fighter's behaviors and past actions to determine whether the fighter is projecting an image that would prevent his signing. Anything else makes for a slippery slope. That's what he said.

A slippery slope. Toward what? Hating Nazis? No. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck your mother, MMA corner. Suck a fucking dick, you cunt fucks.

There. Fuck you. You're wrong. You're wrong and you're assholes and you're fucking pussies mma corner trying to justify any fucking assholes any use of the swastika is just plain wrong you're an asshole you're an asshole you can say well i don't care that's my freedom of speech fine go fuck yourself and then we'll all go you're a nazi asshole and that's our fucking freedom of thoughts and that's how it works that's the world we're allowed you're allowed to make decisions that make you look like an asshole perfectly allowed perfectly legal we're allowed to go

don't want to fucking deal with you now because you're an asshole that's the also part of the world has nothing to do with free speech the government isn't telling you not to put swastikas on yourself we're calling you an asshole me and jimmy which is not a fucking we're not the government you can tattoo uh the head of the of the of the zodiac on your chest and i'm gonna look at that and go kkk get the fuck out of here there you go you put a hood on that's pointy like that yeah and i hate you it's fucking your plansman either way though i'm sure after all of this brandon has learned his lesson by now he's good now right totally oh i mean he's gotta have a job now he's yeah certainly humble and this whole

thing he's willing to do he's a good guy now he changed his way he said he's a good guy uh september 17th 2015 he is arrested for a slew of shit uh breaking and entering uh top of the list possession of drugs possession of heroin oh illegal conveyance of drugs into the jail because he was hiding drugs somewhere and they said if you got anything on he'd fucking tell us you know blah blah blah no i'm good then they searched him into the jail and he gets another fucking charge attempted rape what oh the r words back again oh by the way rape is another fucking charge oh boy all in one fucking one attempted and he did it attempted and he did it first degree felony rape too not second

first degree felony fucking rape and attempted rape and all the other shit i just mentioned so uh september 24th he ends up taking a deal yeah a week later takes a deal uh on this deal he uh he pleads guilty to illegal conveyance to a detention facility uh failure failure to register new addresses by a sex offender failure to provide periodic verification of current address which is a third degree felony for a sex defender and attempted rape he pleased to and uh takes a deal and is sentenced to you sir may fuck off god i wish he could fuck off even farther 25 six years oh my god that's so light six years took a plea man has raped he's a fucking this he's the luckiest motherfucker in the world i don't understand this he's raped multiple people domestic violence all this shit he does

wow it's fucking crazy so yeah all of these things that we know what he did I don't understand this. He's raped multiple people, domestic violence, all this shit he does. Wow. It's fucking crazy. So, yeah, all of these things. Do we know what he did? Do we know the event? No, we don't know the exact thing. I assume just by looking at it, breaking and entering, looks like he was on something,

had heroin on him, broke into a place, and then raped and tried to rape. Yeah. Tried to and then fixed it. Tried to and did. Yeah. That's all I could think. And then when the cops came, he keistered his fucking drugs and they said, you got anything in there? No.

And then they shined a flashlight up his ass and pulled a bag of heroin out. Sometimes when you cough, shit falls out. Shit falls out. So that's, that's what it seems like to me as a, that, that, if I had to use my old mugshot joke where I would take the, the crimes that this person has been convicted of and try to piece together a night out of that, that's the night I piece together it's a it's a wild fucking night it really is uh so he takes a deal right six years uh he's put away for thankfully uh that's good he is at the warren correctional facility he's still there now good that was 2015 it looks like he's gonna do his

fucking full term here good uh the expiration the expiration of his stated term is christmas day 2020 so next year is as far as they could possibly hold him and that's like a six year that's the whole six they haven't let him out yet i feel like they're probably not going to no i feel like they're keeping him in for the full fucking tour at this point uh yeah uh so he's uh he's in there like we said uh since he's been in jail it also looks like he's had several infractions on the inside uh several uh yeah the institutional charges uh just a fine young man just a fine young raping fucking girlfriend punching child raping naz Nazi tattoo having, fine young man, upstanding citizen.

He's really turned it around. Yeah, no shit. Can't get enough of Brandon Saling? Wow. Tough shit, because nobody cares about this asshole. We'll let you know if he gets stabbed in jail, fingers crossed. Put it that way. Other than that.

That's not what it is for sale. Nope, nobody cares. If you really want to know more, I recommend that you get arrested in Ohio and hire a terrible lawyer, adult lawyer. You'll run into him somewhere. And hope he doesn't rape you i don't know or try to put a fucking 88 on your body somewhere but keep your buttholes tight everybody uh that everybody is brandon sailing and a very fucking wacky story of uh a guy who just hit him plain sight you know with with all the things that he did i'm shocked that laughing was what made me throw up today

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Yeah. And that's how it looks. Right. It's phonetic. Italian names to Trello or to Trello. There's no, there's no consonant between the CH and the R, but it's probably touch to Trello, right? Yeah.

Yeah. To Trello. Or do you pronounce the Chuck to Chuck? I don't know. Just however it looks. It doesn't matter. Stevie's too easy. Thanks.

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Colon, probably. John. Probably not Colon, I assume. Well, I don't know. Maybe. Bartolo Colon, I feel like. That's a cool way of saying it. Probably.

Colon. Z, no last name or name at all. John Kolonowski, Thomas Smith. Sounds like a procedure. It does. I'm having a Kolonowski. I'm really scared, Jimmy. They gave me this weird shit to drink.

Hold your hand. Sorry. You're going to be shitting all day. Yes, all day. You know what my life is. And then the colon guy behind him. It's a fucking mess. Michael Haven, Sylvia C., Aaron Nesseth, Adam Miller, Sarah Thaxton, Cassandra Scanlon,

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