Crime in Sports - #155 - Let Me Have You - The Beardedness of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart

Episode Date: April 2, 2019

This week, we travel down a rocky road of crazy adventures, and a spiral that leads to gas station drug busts, being removed from planes by Federal Marshalls & public meltdowns. He was a star during the boom period of wrestling, in the 1980's, and lived a fast paced, wild life. In the end, his downfall happened gradually, as the money dried up, but the addictions grew stronger, causing some embarrassing scenes for all concerned. It's a fun, but sad tale, but we promise one thing, it's never boring! Be too insane for even the Raiders, try to extort your college coach, and smoke crack all night with Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I have to say, and we'll find out, you'll know at the end what I'm talking about. I did not plan anything the way this fell in terms of schedule timing and such yeah i don't follow current i don't like i don't follow dates of current wrestling and all that that much so like i didn't know when wrestlemania weekend was i honestly thought it was last week and i didn't i didn't know so uh the fact that wrestlemania is coming up this week is dumb luck and the fact that i had this on the schedule before they announced that this guy will be talked about, too, is a complete coincidence of everything. It wasn't a planned action. So if you love WrestleMania and you love wrestling all together, when you watch WrestleMania this week, you're going to see a lot of this fuck.

And if you well, you're going to hear about him in a section before the show and another thing. But also, if you don't love wrestling, you're going to love this. It doesn't matter because it's a crazy episode. But let's get right into it here with James Henry Neidhart. That is Jim the Anvil Neidhart. Oh, okay. You know Jim the Anvil. Anybody out there who doesn't know who Jim the Anvil Neidhart is, you probably have seen him.

He's one of those guys that's... His goatee is iconic he's got a pointy like red goatee that's like it's long and it's pointy and it's his goatee is is the equivalent of a raleigh fingers mustache you'd say like raleigh fingers mustache for the curly one and you'd say jimny anvil goatee like that's the reference point for that so like even people who aren't wrestling fans would say a jimnyville-Neidhard goatee. What's his middle name? Henry.

Oh. Henry, which is his father's first name. Oh. So he's not a junior. Gotcha. Of course, his mother's name is James, so you never know. Wouldn't that be weird? I'm sorry.

His mother's name is Frank, as a matter of fact, actually. We apologize for that. So, Jim Neanville here. actually we apologize for that so uh jim the anvil here uh this he this is the the this is the the crazy stories of wrestling this is right in the sweet spot this is right in the just the taint of the crazy he started in the 70s he started in the late 70s and was a star through the 80s and early 90s and right all all through the craziness and the drugs and the insanity and the 300-plus days on the road per year and all that. He was smack dab in the middle of that. He's a big dude, too.

We'll talk about that. He's from Montebello, California, where he's born. He's a California guy, but later on he's always in Florida. Fuck does he love Florida. He moved there. Wrestlers just love Florida in general. They fucking love Florida. I moved there. Wrestlers just love Florida in general. They fucking love Florida.

I don't know. Okay. In the 80s, this is my theory. I have a theory on this. Number one, it's cheap in Florida. And in the 80s, it was very cheap in Florida. And also, there's no tax, no state income tax there. Okay. So there's reasons for that right away for an independent contractor to want to live there.

But I really, really think it's the cheapest place where they could go sit out and get tans all the time that's what i was just gonna say it runs the gamut the whole state runs the gamut from poor to rich and all of them are on a beach somewhere that's what i'm saying that's what it is and in the 80s you had to have a tan everybody had a tan in the 80s look at 80s wrestlers nobody didn't have a tan if someone didn't have a tan it stood out like whoa what the hell's wrong with that guy that's just wrestling really fucking everybody but wrestling was like literally if you came in white they'd be like you're not even tan what are you doing there pal get in the booth what's wrong with you put your shirt back on you know for the first time what's wrong with you pal yeah so even in dirty dancing

everybody's tan and it was cloudy and rainy pretty much the whole fucking movie isn't the cat skills ever been to the cat skills no it's not known for its fucking outdoor splendor as far as the sunshine goes yet everybody looks like a fucking hollywood model old jewish people went there yeah old jewish people went there on vacation yeah and then they put the game farm up there that's what all i knew it as as a kid. It was a farm like this zoo place where you went and like fucking pet llamas and shit. And that was where it was. Even the guy from fucking Special Victims Unit had a tan. Yeah.

Is it James? Was it James? I don't remember his name. Jerry Arbuck. Jerry. Jerry Arbuck. Jerry Arbuck, though. Come on.

He's got the hair, the tan. Jerry Arbuck's a slick guy. He's a 60s doctor, too, back then. He's got to hair, the tan. Jerry Orbach's a slick guy. He's a 60s doctor, too, back then. He's got to have a fucking tan. Jerry, he hits the golf course. That's where he gets his tan, on the golf course, Mr. Orbach. That's true. He was potting with the wife.

Yeah. The wrestlers, though, these guys literally, when they describe what they do, they'd be like, we get into a town off the plane. You go check into the hotel. You get something to eat. You go work out. You hit the tanning booth. That was part of the routine.'s sprinkled in there was tanning

yeah look at hulk hogan it looks like a fucking hot dog for a reason yeah he did it looks like a hot dog it's been left on the rotisserie at am pm for about 3 000 too many rotations that's true he's just singed and that's what i mean it's weird so uh anyway he's uh he grows up to be a big guy there's uh he's about six to 6'1 in that area. Wrestling, you never know. Andre the Giant's anywhere from 6'11 to 7'5. They used to list Hulk Hogan at 6'9 back in the day. It's like, he's not 6'9.

What are you talking about? But the NBA does the same thing. They do. So they listed Barkley at 6'6 and a half for years. It's like, that bro is 6'4. Sorry. At best. Yeah. Mr. Barkley is 6'4. I've been eye to eye with him he's my fucking height he's six four trust me not six

six and a half so uh he's about 280 pounds though that's a lot and he's solid yeah solid you remember him he's a fire plug he's built like uh he has like what looks like a beer belly but is probably more solid than a fucking wall. It's one of those things. He looks like he's inflated. Yeah. Like with a needle. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But he doesn't look like steroid strong either. No, no, not steroid. Yeah. Like a basketball needle. Yeah, like you're pumping him up. But he looks like a guy who could just bend down and rip a tree stump out of the fucking ground just in natural strength.

That's what he looks like like the type of dude where if you bumped into him at a bar you'd apologize absolutely sorry brother yeah you do i'll fucking buy you a beer if i need to like i'm not gonna fight you you're a monster his nipples look like they have balloon knots around them yeah balloon knot ripples like that's how that's how fucking it's Yeah, he's a very sturdy, big, thick fucking legs on him. Just a big, thick, tough son of a bitch. You bump into him and you're like, I felt balloon knots around the neck. Yeah. I'm so sorry, sir.

I'm sorry, sir. Yeah, exactly. With that big goatee and shit. No, thank you. I don't want to fight this guy. And he had like this squat. And he had a flat top, too, which made it look even more kind of smooshed, like big round head. Square.

Sitting on a thick neck. You're like, oh, boy. square on the top and bottom and then rounded on the sides and not much neck no it's just a big oh man he's a muscular dude yeah uh he goes to high school at newport harbor high school in california that's a nice area it's a nice area yeah and he's a he's a terrific athlete in high school he plays football uh but track and field is his main gig. Shot put. And you look at him, and that looks like a shot putter. I mean, just the legs behind him to throw it. He was an amazing shot putter, like all state and all that sort of thing.

He did anything basically in track and field that was strength. It had to do with power. Discus. Anything like that. Like that. Yeah. He held the California high school record in shot put from 1973 until 1985. That's a fascinating thing to be doing.

Yeah. Just throwing a heavy ball. Yeah. And it came in handy later on as he had to toss another thing. We'll talk about how he got his nickname. The Anvil. The Anvil. Exactly. I knew a dude in high school that was real i think he had a state record in in in uh shop but i never understood how you got into that i i don't know what would make you

think you know what i bet i could throw that little that somebody's got to talk you into that right super heavy ball i bet i could throw it far yeah i feel like that's like you went out for just basic track and field shit when your parents told you to do sports and then they were like your coach was like hey you look strong here's something you've probably never done before push this against your face and then just spin around in a few circles and then out of that third circle fucking throw it really throw it good well i yeah it's so weird and weird it's a weird skill to be to have yeah to to know you to develop we'll put it that way you don't just whip that out at a party right here watch this like why did you do

that i remember the game on atari i think it was uh it was a fucking athlon something yeah that was so much fun yeah yeah no the shot put it's it's just i feel like if you try out for track and you're not very fast they're like so shot put how do you feel about you know you're a little chunky for the for the actual running right you're not gonna put you on the relay team or anything but i bet you can throw this thing yeah i bet you can throw this put that barrel ass behind this little ball and neidhart had a big giant ass on him yeah big later on a big pink ass in his tights so we'll talk about later when we talk about some of this stuff this is great already oh it gets crazy fast too this there's just this is one of those stories that is paced so well with fuck-ups the fuckery is paced throughout it you're gonna get fuckery fuckery all sorts of funny shit more fuckery more it's just terrific it's like a chapter book it is

a chapter book yeah this is this is a story that somebody it feels like somebody wrote it just for us so it's wonderful except for the fact well we'll find out it's not all wonderful oh yeah so he ends up graduating from high school with a you know with a shot put record and everything else and uh and uh all that and he's he's kind of a highly touted athlete because he's got these track and field records uh so he ends up going to ucla oh which if you want to go for sports and you live in southern california not a bad place to be that's right there yeah uh he uh he plays football there but i can't find him on rosters here i don't know what he was doing or from what i could gather uh this is a little bit fuzzy they concentrate mainly on his track and field exploits uh but it seems like he was on the team and then he wasn't on the team then he was on the

team again interesting because if he was on the track team then he could do that that happens sometimes if guys play other sports sometimes if they play basketball and football they'll take a year off of one and then they'll come back to it that happens but in the early 70s that was a kind of a strange thing uh so he's there also to do shot put, like I said. Now, there's an article I found, a newspaper article from 1979 that discusses drug use in track and field. And he's a major example of why it's bad, why it's bad for these athletes. And basically, they're talking about guys that take uppers before events which is just what athletes do baseball players it was finally banned a couple

years ago but for a hundred years they took greenies which are just you know pep pills and you know guys do that they take no does in high school it's everybody yeah in the nfl the guys take shit loads of caffeine pills i mean they're getting themselves up. And they would do the same thing, and they would have drugs, obviously, back then. So they talk about, at one point here, the way they put it, in track and field, the classic case is that of Jim Neidhart. That's how the article goes into him. So if you're the classic case, that's not good. He's a Californian who became accustomed

to popping a couple of uppers before every track meet in long beach where he was the leading high school shot putter in the country in 73 so they said he increased his drug intake through college yeah always they called it a quote ill-fated college career okay and then they said that he quote went on several legendary drug-induced rampages so in high school in college yeah this is what crime and sports is all about drug-induced legendary drug-induced rampages i feel like is the alternate title of this show crime and sports you know parentheses legendary drug-induced rampages he's like the guy from the program kind of do you remember that yeah absolutely his face through windshields in the parking lot and screaming and yelling and doing crazy shit yeah that's exactly kind of what he's like he's doing the shit before

meets before shot he's getting himself so jacked up and then afterwards he's still all jacked up but he's you know not throwing a hard heavy ball anymore so there's nothing to really take it out on is this what happens in olympic village i had no idea fuck yeah they're just they're beating the shit out it's it's bedlam in there you have no idea it's fucking thunderdome inside that that's a village boy they just go to town on each other so uh uh i guess in 1976 they call this the most notorious of his issues here 1976 this was after the pacific eight conference championships uh at berkeley now he was at ucla he's favored to win the shot put i don't know if there's a big betting pool on this vegas takes action it's pretty sad you know what you know you're a degenerate gambler

if you're gambling on college shot put fucking meets. Fuck gambling on it. You know the odds. If you're looking at what the fucking, is there a spread? I'll give you a seven to five on Neidhart. That's weird. Yeah, you got a problem with that play. So, yeah, he said at this point he was favored to win and he ended up coming in second, which he was favored by a lot to win he was you know it's him and everybody else and he didn't win he came in second so apparently they said

he'd been taking a shitload of amphetamines before the the match and he was all jacked up and now he was super pissed that he lost so these are when you get a very angry man who's jacked up on a shitload of amphetamines and he's pissed now that he lost too this is bad stuff uh so they said that uh uh wow they said that he uh ended up trying to unwind quote unquote with tranquilizers and alcohol oh gee that's how you to come down okay yeah well you gotta come down i mean you can't you need more drugs to come down you can't just stay up that much now you to drink and take tranquilizers. And you can see the wrestler cocktail that is dangerous in the future. No wonder he loved it.

Yeah, absolutely. And once again, we say this every wrestling episode, but I will say it again. We find wrestlers fascinating because they're so much like comedians. It is the exact same profession. It's a lifestyle. Mixed with violence is the only difference. A lot of it. But you're doing the same thing over and over to is the only difference a lot of it but you're doing the same thing over and over the same people trying to make it look fresh you're putting

something over on them yeah like with us with us going oh uh this the other day i was walking here we weren't this wasn't the other day we wrote that joke a year ago and we might not have ever even fucking happened to us it's the same thing with a wrestling match like oh he happened to catch me with this move and then i did this No, you had that planned out. We all know it. It's fine. Or it was probably somebody told a comic a story out front of the club after a show and was like, you can use that in your skit. And they did.

Yeah, yeah. And they did. So I was at Starbucks the other day. I don't even drink coffee. I don't even drink. No, that's the thing. Yeah. Fuck.

And it happens. And so we find it very, very interesting. And especially the kind of comedy world business and the wrestling businesses are super mirrored. They boom at the same time. If you think about it, the 80s was the huge comedy boom, which was the exact same time as the huge wrestling boom. No point. They were living the same lifestyles. Comics were going up, making a lot of money money going all over the country doing shit loads of drugs and rock and roll type of

lifestyle and the wrestlers were living the same lifestyle and now it's again yeah because now it's a big massive thing only thing is the comics are way more debaucherous than the wrestlers nowadays the wrestlers nowadays are like i don't know anybody calling in bomb threats on a bus because they don't like their seatmate that's what I mean wrestlers are very kind of buttoned up nowadays they have to be, they're made them which is kind of why it's boring

and they're also taking over the comedy clubs and that's the other thing too, they're taking over all the comedy clubs what are we going to say, no? they're violent next thing you know, our next live show I have to hit you in the head with a fucking chair and DDT you on a stage. Because if they're coming to our house, we're coming to yours, motherfuckers. Let's do it.

I'm going to light the stage on fire and dive off the top. Come on, motherfuckers. We'd last three minutes and then we'd both be in the hospital. I'd probably be dead after three minutes. I don't have health insurance. I'd be in an alley somewhere and Jimmy would be convales be in the hospital. I'd probably be dead after three minutes. I don't have health insurance. I'd be in an alley somewhere, and Jimmy would be convalescing in a hospital. Getting my last rites read to me,

but I'd be covered. I'd have some street doctor. I paid $30 trying to set my leg with two 2x4s and some duct tape. That's what I'd have. This is going to hurt, kid. It's going to hurt. I'm not going to lie to you.

You're probably not going to be able to walk right for a while. You know, Drink, I'm sorry. There's nothing I got for you. You're probably not going to be able to walk right for a while. You know, drink. I'm sorry. There's nothing I got for you. You're fucked there. So apparently tranquilizers and alcohol after the amphetamines made the anvil, quote, a witness that said he, quote, just went berserk, which is quite the way of putting it. At the time, he weighed more than 300 pounds. That's a lot of berserk.

Aggressive, athletic. I mean, this isn't 300 sitting on your ass on the couch pounds this is college athlete fucking works out every day lethal weapon 300 yeah ready for athletic competition 300 pounds a big goddamn guy uh they said that he took apart they said that he pretty much dismantled his entire hotel room just took it apart rock star style uh much of like a motley crew outing or a van halen fucking show uh then he tied four sheet this is amazing this is fucking awesome by the way okay as bad as it is i mean it's obviously illegal and shit i kind of wish i would have been able to do this at some point in my life this is awesome 300 pounds mind you doing this took his his motel room

apart tied four bed sheets together strapped a fire extinguisher on his back you know where i'm going with this i see the look on your face what did he do then leapt tar like tarzan off the fourth floor balcony with the fire extinguisher shooting off a swinging i'm sure doing a fucking off a fourth floor hotel balcony he's got a propeller he's a yeah i'm the rocket man and he's fucking foot how the fuck did he get that to his back i have no idea sheets for sure i'm sure he strapped it on and was like let's do this shit and then fucking that's awesome first of all that's a crazy hilarious stunt like that's not it's obviously the hotel's not going to be happy but it's pretty fucking funny it's pretty good like everybody that works at that hotel has a story they still tell now

this giant fucking guy just leaps off the balcony with a fire extinguisher really every new employee hears that story see that balcony there jim the anvil jumped out of that well the fire extinguisher up his ass yeah it gets better and better every time they tell it you should have seen him he did a flip off of it it was floated it was amazing it was in the air just floating well uh he wasn't too graceful with this because you don't know how that's going to work no you don't you don't you ever got like a rope work. No. You don't. You ever got on like a rope swing? You've never seen it happening. Right. It's very hard to get a swing going.

You need a few tries at it. He only had one shot at this. This is a one take kind of a thing here. We got enough dynamite for this one trick. That's it. So it's a one shot. This happens or it doesn't. So he instead of landing on another balcony, the kind of trajectory

of the whole thing sent him through a plate glass window and into a first floor hotel room. Yes. So through a plate glass, you're sitting in your room just chilling and all of a sudden a 300 pound man with a fire extinguisher mounted upon his back shoots through your fucking window and lands on the floor. What kind of strange day is that? It like a john candy movie absolutely and then this guy gets up he's like oh wait sorry about that the 300 pound guy yeah what are y'all doing in my room he does

dean martin then passes out from a fucking horrible concussion that will damage his brain for decades to come. From a slight brain hemorrhage. Yeah, Jesus Christ. So he ended up being okay from this somehow. No, he wasn't. I mean, no, but he wasn't. That sets the stage, though. Yeah, that sets the stage. UCLA wound up with a $5,500 bill out of this. This is in the late 70s,

so you have to fuck a lot of things up to cost $5,500 in the 70s. It's like 20 grand now, for Christ's sake. So he ended up, they ended up parting ways, we'll say, UCLA and Jim. That's the end of his scholarship? Well, they said, you know what, Jim? That's probably worth more than your whole scholarship in the 70s, just that window. For shot put? And yeah, this isn't like a money sport.

I know people are betting on it, Jim, don't get me wrong, but it's not a money sport. Maybe if you still played football well. So he ends up eventually transferring to the University of Hawaii, which, hey, what the fuck? Why not? Fuck yeah. That sounds great, right? Yeah.

Jesus, he likes the beach disguise. Every time I hear that there's colleges there, I'm like, why doesn't everybody apply for that? Why is not everyone going there? Fuck Yale. Like college football players. They have a football team. You think they'd be like,

I want to play for fucking Hawaii. And they got good ones. They got good players. But they don't end up getting a lot of players because of their time zone. They're not on TV. Oh, that's a good point. So that's why you never seei on tv because they're on at like fucking two in the morning yeah so they're what are they six hours ahead before us yeah they're way yeah they're way out there so it's it's that's why players don't go there because they're not seen

on tv and and you don't get a lot of publicity if you play for hawaii but i mean if they were fucking national champions you get a lot of publicity so if a bunch of guys went there i don't know i'd want to go there if they recruit and get good players now with the advent of dvr and tivo and shit like that yeah you could probably get if you could get your shit on tv if you could just probably make it be a good team you're gonna be fine you know i mean guys boise state turned into a fucking thing and nobody knew anything about boise state and That turned into a powerhouse. They are on the mainland. They are on the mainland.

Sort of. It's Idaho. It's kind of the mainland. It's up there. That shit's almost Canada. You don't realize how far north Boise is. I feel like Idaho's not even really a state. It's just a Canadian estuary.

It's just this little land. It's like the DMZ. There's our demilitarized zone. It's just Idaho. The shit stretches from Utah to Canada. It's just this little land between. It's like the DMZ. Yeah. There's our demilitarized zone. It's just Idaho. The shit stretches from Utah to Canada. It's huge. It's gigantic. It's a giant, weird.

It's a frozen Texas. A frozen potato Texas. Idaho. Just as weird of people. Idaho. Potato Texas. Just as weird of people. You know, Texas, but potatoes.

Instead of cows, picture potatoes. So Jim here, he ends up going back to UCLA after this somehow. He doesn't fly in Hawaii. He doesn't like it there. He comes back, goes back to UCLA, but I guess he's dismissed from the team after the 1977 track season. We'll talk about why i believe in a second here now uh he tried to go back to hawaii uh uh and then back to ucla but neither of them

wanted him again so he went from ucla to hawaii back to ucla and then tried to go back to hawaii and back to ucla again that's too much and it didn't work uh so he enrolled at cal state long beach on a track scholarship uh but it was revoked because he was declared ineligible because I'm sure of all of his transferring. I'm sure there's some rules that involve your eligibility. Yeah. Now he also has four kids now. He's got a mortgage. He's got a lot of problems, this guy.

He's got a job as a CPA somewhere. It's tough. Your life is real already. You don't need us anymore. You've got to be at the factory at 730 tomorrow morning. So how long is this track meet going to take? I got to tell my supervisor if I'm going to be there or not. So apparently, this is, I guess, the ineligibility of the whole thing.

He threatened to beat up the track coach, Ron Ellis. That'll do it. That'll do it. Yeah. You know what? I'm looking at you, and you don't seem as eligible as you did five minutes ago. I'm just... It's weird.

Five minutes ago, you were pretty eligible. Now, I'm like, he doesn't look very eligible, this guy. Wow. Yeah. He ends up also... He basically... He ends up being arrested for extortion out of this, because he threatens to beat up the coach if he's not given $1,200. Yeah, that's certainly extortion out of this because he threatens to beat up the coach

if he's not given uh twelve hundred dollars yeah that's that's certainly extortion i'll beat you up if you don't pay me twelve hundred dollars because that was the equivalent of what was left on his scholarship so he said you give me twelve hundred dollars so i can because he felt they owed it to him whatever and he said he wanted to train independently so rather than go through i don't know if there's paperwork you can submit to try to get reimbursed for something he decides to go just cut out the middleman threaten to kick the shit out of the track coach and he's figured that would work i don't know to get it uh yeah uh he ends up spending a month in jail for extortion he ends up in la county for a month that's awesome on an extortion charge uh and we'll uh we will talk about that in a second also so he's clearly not in college for

the uh for the education he's not looking for that yeah that's that's not his thing no i don't think that's at all his thing at all uh they talk about uh uh the a teammate of his talks about uh the incident when he goes through the window. Yeah. And he says, quote, you can take one 20 milligram capsule of betrol, which is a combination of they describe it as a combination of methamphetamine and the active ingredients of dexedrine and Adderall. OK, so this is a fucking upper and a half. This is like a, you know know a long island iced tea of uppers basically here he says you could take 20 milligram capsule of this and quote scoot along for a whole day and go lift all kinds of weights and throw things and boogie around most of the night

is what he said when you take a half dozen of them like night hard did 120 milligrams you could fly out a window which is exactly what he did with a fire extinguisher right up your asshole you could kind of get a little uh out of your mind basically here uh from that and uh yeah they talk about the just the whole basically the whole uh methamphetamine culture and track and the fact that basically everybody on the team was taking some sort of methamphetamine. In baseball, I know it used to be considered if you weren't taking greenies, you weren't trying. It was one of those things like, oh, what are you not, like, you don't want to be a part of this? You don't want to play well today?

Yeah, we're all ready to play well today. Why won't you agree to play well today? That's what it was. The guys felt like they had to take them. Why would you agree to play well? Why's what it was the guys like felt like they had to take why are you just trying to lose you're trying to lose you realize that right actively losing right now at this moment just sitting there without those greenies in you what a fucking complete dick to play hard jesus christ they talk about uh uh this guy uh one of the track people says athletes particular football players prefer methamphetamine because it creates less confusion in the psyche

than benzadrine yeah which bennies are like what fucking uh you know hell's angels took in the 60s and shit like get some bennies and second all and all that stuff yeah uh they said or dexedrine uh you get amped up but it doesn't confuse you and make you nervous as bennies and dexies do you can do what you have to without losing your cool and getting shaky which yeah i that's you don't want to be shaky no out there in public here he sounds bad uh yeah yeah that's that's not great at all so yeah after all this going back and forth ucla uh uh you know all this bullshit here yeah no shit uh he says that it uh it was attempted extortion jim says later on is what he was in trouble for uh the uh the school obviously were you know they looked down on threatening their coaches for money so he's he's he's gonna

draw the line that i didn't get the money that's what yeah he didn't get the money right so that's attempted he does get a jail sentence yeah if he got the money then it's then it's extortion yeah but he didn't pay up so pay up so i just tried yeah if you try to murder someone it doesn't they don't die it's attempted murder i guess that's a good point to be dead for the murder to be a murder pay up for it to be actual extortion that's right pay up bitch that's extortion i don't tell you he wanted to be extortion give him 1200 bucks now it's extortion it's up to the victim at that point really they can choose what charge this is going to be attempted or not it's not really up to this guy at that point just don't die just hang on it's one of the few crimes where it's really up to the victim what the crime's going to be you know

think about it that doesn't happen yeah it depends on what you do that's gotta be the only crime very few crimes like that i would say that you know, depending on the victim's reaction and what they do. You can choose. You know what? I like this guy. I'm not going to give him the money because I think he'll go to jail for less time on an attempted than on a carried out extortion. Listen, no, I don't have $1,200. Sir, I like you too much to give you this $1,200.

I'm not going to give it to you, but I am certainly calling the police. Oh, I will you too much to give you this $1,200. I'm not going to give it to you, but I am certainly calling the police. Oh, I will call the police. So anyway, he said that he was in L.A. County the same time, I guess, he said they were bringing Charles Manson through. And he was staying at the county jail for that time. He said he served 21 days of a 30-day sentence in county jail there. He said he watched Manson walk by several times with guards and shit and uh yeah he said it was kind of interesting that's not interesting that's terrifying yeah it was well in the 70s too he's like oh shit charles manson that's fucking crazy

i was gonna say knight hard to manson like knight hard could take manson and just clap his hands together and explode his head like a fucking cheeto like they were just sight unseen if you if you put those two men in front of the camera and ask the public guess which one is charlie yeah you know they're not they're not picking that guess which one the murderer is yeah which one's the bad fuck it depends or who's just a an attempted extorter was it done with bare hands because i'm gonna guess that one for bare hands and weapons i'm gonna guess this guy he says that nobody fucked with him in jail because he's a 300 pound fucking psychopath college athlete who looks he doesn't look like a guy to be trifled with we'll put it this is before the goatee but he's still a 300 pounds

fucking muscle monster and tried to extort his coach a man that's so close to him yeah possibly the closest person in his life next to his parents fuck that guy but but he's he's willing to threaten him yeah i'd be afraid of him too no shit i guess that doesn't mean shit to him no it's he what do you do now so now he says i guess i'll try out for the nfl really that's his that's his goal here so he tries out for the dallas cowboys because he was an all american defensive tackle in high school so and he's a big fucking, you know, athletic guy.

But, he ends up, I guess he goes to camp and I have a quote from him on that. But I guess he says that he was dismissed from the team when they learned

that he was awaiting extortion trial, a trial for extortion in Long Beach. They were like, no thanks. You're not even. Even the Cowboys

thought better of this? Yeah, even the Cowboys. This was Landry back then. This is not Jerry Jones. So this was, I feel like they were like, okay, let's look at the strikes against him. Number one, didn't play college football. That's a huge strike considering everybody else here, all the other hundred guys played college football. They've all been in a huddle.

That's a problem. Number two, he's got fucking charges. We might not even have him. Like, what are we doing here? Not to mention, he went off a hotel room balcony last night in our hotel room and crashed into fucking Tony Dorsett's room. So it's a little weird. Roger fucking Staubach doesn't like him crashing through windows. Hey, everybody.

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Once you go custom, you do not go back. And now back to the show. So, yeah, he ends up trying for them, and that doesn't work out. He ends up there. Where do you think he's going to go from there, Jimmy? The Raiders. The fucking Raiders is exactly where he goes. That's why I asked you, because I knew what you'd answer.

Fucking Yahtzee. And I knew it would be correct. I'm impressed that he chose that. Yeah, he he was like well well that was the mid 70s could have gone to the steelers no that was the mid 70s that was the time when the raiders were looking for fuck-ups they were literally like i've read books about the 70s raiders they were actively looking for fuck-ups because their whole thing was where can we because everybody else otherwise it's all even yeah like we all have a draft we all do this you gotta get an edge and it's like where do you find the guys that slip between the

cracks who's that small college guy that runs a 4-3-40 that we can get him on the team that's where the raiders are at how did the steelers get all their criminals oh they did the same thing they did the same thing but the steelers built it in a little bit of different way they didn't like the raiders were looking for cast offs too got it free agents guys from the fucking cfl who got like you know arrested too many times to be in the cfl they'll be like we'll give him a whirl fuck it he seems like uh you know he's our kind of guy they had a certain kind of guy they looked for and it was it was a tough kind of swaggering guy nine months in county that's our kind of guy guy hanging out with you know in charlie county with charles manson steelers were a little more regimented they they looked for clean cut guys, put them in a nine by nine chain link fence, and then

just fed them rum. And then fed them, well, and cocaine. Don't forget about cocaine. Cocaine and rum meat. The Steelers ran on cocaine in the 70s, without a fucking doubt. Read about three bricks shy of a load. It is about the 1974 Steelers season, or 73 Steel stealer season i can't remember which but it's uh a reporter it's one of the first uh embedded reporters with a football team and they this is

before the guys were guarded this is when they would still like you know this is when they still didn't make any money yeah they'd still all go out to the bar after the game the one that like the fans went to and hung out and like so he hung out with all these guys and they're all like it's a it's a different breed and the steelers were a bunch of uh a bunch of criminals they all did drugs they were all a bunch of fucking drunks and the original hard knocks it was a mess form yeah it's just what it was it's it's fuck great book great book uh by the way it's really like from that genre it's one of the first of that so uh uh he uh yeah they they didn't like him and with the cowboys so he goes to the raiders and uh it's it's uh he just ends up being on practice squads and uh pre-season type thing

and never makes a roster that's more than i've done in the nfl that's what i mean he was in training camp yeah you know he didn't get cut day one so uh he says quote in my rookie season in 1978 i was with tom landry we were in camp, double sessions for six weeks straight, no Sundays off. Everything was live contact. Toward the end, I could run, but I couldn't walk. So that's two-a-days. That's too much. Yeah.

So this is what he's coming off of when he decides maybe I'll give wrestling a shot. He's coming off of that sort of you know all out he's he's in great shape we'll put it that way i mean he's coming off two a days in the nfl you are fucking you are in great shape but it's weird too because wrestling isn't the same kind of shape as other as other things that and then back then it was it was a different shape too it was what much more different shape than it is today but i mean you could get a guy who could run 10 miles yeah and be fine you know a world-class runner or something and if you put him in a wrestling ring for two minutes he wouldn't be able to his tongue would be hanging out he wouldn't be able to fucking breathe because it's a completely different muscle memory you get

a guy who is a fat fuck who looks like he couldn't run 30 feet he can go in there for an hour and run and roll around and be fine. So it's a totally different type of thing. Really weird when you see guys like that back in the day that could go an hour with a beer belly. And you're like, how is that a thing? That's a good point. You think that they would lose that, but after working out all day, they're pouring more beer into that, too. And that's what their body is used to.

Their body is used to these bursts of this much and this type of activity and it's it's a totally different thing so 1979 he hears that wrestlers make decent money yeah basically uh wrestling is kind of uh 79 is when it was first starting to really be it was always popular the 50s was the big boom it was on national television 60s it went, but it was still popular. And in the 70s, kind of same thing. And then late 70s is when it really started to swell. This is when they had the big Shea Stadium show in 1980 for WWF. And it started to get bigger. This is right before the pay-per-view era.

Starrcade is in 1983, then WrestleMania in 85. Starcade is in 1983, then WrestleMania in 85. So it's just before that, when big national expansion of certain territories. So he's starting to see this, and he lives in Los Angeles, and they have a wrestling territory there, too. And he also hears that lots of ex-football players wrestle. That's where he hears it from.

Makes sense. Football players he knows that are like, man, you can go in wrestling and knock around and fucking make some dough. He wasn't a wrestling fan, though though he didn't know anything about it well that's a problem no i mean he's like he'd seen it on tv because every every market has their local wrestling back then that was on so he'd seen it like on tv and stuff but he didn't watch it he wasn't a big fan he didn't like look at and go man you know the psychology of what he wasn't doing

that at all he was just kind of yeah i know what wrestling is so uh he ends up talking to the local promoter there who was uh gene labelle who uh was one of the territorial promoters from back in the day they had the los angeles area and they ended up uh uh ended up you know selling out i think you can rush a bunch of money there it was a tough territory actually la yeah la was well again it's a saturated market there's plenty entertainment there's a lot of shit to do in la it's really hard and and it's it's uh apparently there's a real up and down market depending on who was there like piper was there in the 70s rowdy rowdy piper and they had a real good upswing that's how these territories would be they'd have

a couple guys that get real hot yeah and they'd be hot for a year a year and a half and they'd kind of have a lull and then they'd have another big feud that would get everybody back into it, and they'd kind of have ebbs and flows with these local territories. So he didn't know much about it, so he talks to Gene LaBelle, and basically what they would do in the 70s, the late 70s and mid-70s, and even the early 80s, even to like the mid-80s, I hear this from so many wrestlers, you go to your local promoter, and they go, you want to be a wrestler? Great.

And if you're a big athletic guy with a college background and stuff like that, they'd put you on. I mean, they wouldn't tell you to fuck off if you were that. They might at first, but if you said, no, I really want to do it, they'd be like, all right, well, yeah, you could probably make some money with this guy. So what they'd do is they'd say, go up to Calgary and train with Stu Hart. That was the thing. Now, Stu Hart is Bret Hitman Hart's father and Owen Hart's's father and we'll talk about patriarch of this giant family that jim becomes a part of and uh that was it was like the test go up to calgary where it's fucking four degrees right go up to uh you know northern alberta enjoy yeah and uh have this fucking

crusty old man take you down to a 12 degree basement and fuck you up they would this guy and jim would talk about this i heard him in interviews talking about it i mean it's just legendary stew hart's dungeon if you look up that you'll just it's story after story after story of p just you hear screams from the basement of stew hart torturing creating wrestlers creating wrestlers, torturing potential wrestlers because he would put them in submission holds and be like, what's that there? Everybody's got a Stu Hart impression.

He would talk like that there. He would say, Jim Neidhart said when he first got there, he didn't even know what was going on and Stu was like, let me have you there. Let me have you. And he'd be grabbing his arm and Jim's like, let me have you there let me have you and he'd like be grabbing his arm and jim's like let me have you what is that like he would just give him his arm then he put him in some crazy hold fucking screaming and he's like jesus christ because after a few days he let me have you there i'd be like no no one's having me

fuck that no not being had me enough you've had but this it was a apparently a three-sided ring where there was walls on three sides of the ring and then an open area where you pretended there was ropes. It was a mat that was four inches off the ground, like a boxing ring without a stand, like just on the ground with some wood with a mat over it. And like a pipe that you could hit your head on that was like hanging low. It was in a basement. Not a lot of top rope jumping. No. And this is where a lot of great wrestlers came from it's crazy to think about but this this guy trained some of the biggest names in the world in this shithole basement of this weird mansion and the heart mansion is like it's the most legendarily weird

place yeah it's like the haunted mansion it's fucking with there's cats everywhere what uh there's people they have 12 kids by the way the hearts did what we'll talk about that there's 12 kids shit loads of wrestlers are there all the time because they're like living there new guys are coming in he's training kids guys that have worked there are you know hanging out eating dinner like there's always 30 people at the house cats everywhere it's apparently completely disgusting uh hygienically in that house uh there's there's the stories that guys tell multiple guys have told it of him uh where uh he was making some eggs stew heart was making some eggs on the stove with a spatula and uh on the counter there's cat shit one of the cats had shit on the counter so he went with a spatula and uh on the counter there's cat shit one of the cats had shit on the counter so

he went with the spatula and picked up the cat shit and flicked it off the counter and then dipped it went right back into the eggs with it they're like oh my god who is eating those that's stew heart wrestlers that's who's eating those wrestlers who've been tormented in the basement for the last fucking seven hours and he just used a cat shit spatula at least he's not having me yeah he's not let me have you there let me have you there i guess he would he jim anvil said he would come downstairs and like these little tiny like bikini briefs like and nothing else like this hunched over old man if you've ever seen stew heart yeah he's a scary look look up stew heart and as a young man he looks like a big tough son of a bitch is an old man he looks i don't even know how to describe him he looks frightening like someone has stolen

his his his soul and his interior light and he's trying to get it back from you well he's he's probably just injected all of it into his wife 12 fucking kids 12 kids jesus he's giving away all his dna it's fucking crazy so well they'd send you up there because basically if you could last through the dungeon and not quit that meant that you wanted to be in the business because it was it was fucking easy to uh uh you know in other places it wasn't easy but stew heart like the dungeon's the worst place you could be yeah if you would last through the dungeon uh they knew you were something. Yeah. And you were going to last.

Not to mention, in Canada, they had these long-ass trips in the middle of the winter when it's 20 below zero. Literally 20 below zero. They would drive 500 miles. And they would all describe, Stu would drive them all in this fucking van. It was like a six-person van, and they'd shove 15 wrestlers into it and drive you know in the middle of the night 20 30 to go to you know below zero in northern alberta you know hoping the van doesn't break down and they're all gonna die out there but that's that's what it was and it was fucking dangerous and the long trip i mean 500 miles and there and back in the snow and in the

fucking and if you and then the next day this guy's gonna twist you into a pretzel he's wearing whitey tighties in a scummy basement to feed you cat shit eggs if you can but for all this you're making like 20 bucks a night you're not making any money this is you're lucky to be getting the experience is the way they look at it so if you last through that that's called paying your dues yeah and then if you if you last through that and stew hart tells other promoters hey this kid's good and you know you can go right that's it you can get a job anywhere in the country so anyone will hire you i've had him there i've had him so apparently that that would get you a job you could pretty much get a job anywhere you want at that point so also when he was up there uh while he's you know being had and uh driven all the fuck around and have stuffed in a van

that's a thing now yeah and he talked about too they would they play all these tricks on each other and fucking ribs and all this shit and uh one particular one that i heard him tell that was pretty funny was he uh they put like five packs of x-lax in somebody's oh no some shithead somebody that didn't like some wrestler's chocolate malt or something. And then basically he had to shit every three seconds. So there's one of those ribs where they're basically fucking themselves because they're all in the car, too. So they made a four-hour trip into an eight-hour trip because this guy's going to shit every five minutes. But still, it's worth it because you know his asshole's sore, I guess. I don't know.

He's been had in a different way. It's the equivalent of putting a Fiber One bar in a Clif Bar bag. Yeah, exactly. You're just ruining your day. Not theirs. Not theirs. No. So apparently, Stu Hart liked him a lot because he was a football player.

And Stu used to be, he used to play for Canadian Football League. Stu's an ex-football player. So Stu likes a big, rugged type guy. That's the type of wrestlers he likes, too. He likes a big, tough, rugged-looking guy. Because it's fucking Western Canada. It's a rugged tough areas in the 70s this isn't like a there's not a lot of you know nobody's mincing around this area it's a very kind of rugged they have the calgary stampede there it's a cowboy type type of thing it's not they're tough

so you have to have big tough guys because the guys in the audience can't be like well i can kick that guy's ass and they might be able to you know whereas this guy they go jesus christ he's a fucking bull that'll make sense why he's got vice grip hands if he played in canadian football yeah and he's been a wrestler forever and he's a weird submission wrestler like uh stew heart there's an old story of stew heart uh where he in his wallet now he has 12 kids and a wife and all this shit. No condoms in there. No, definitely no condoms or money. Neither of those things. But in his wallet, no pictures of any of those people. He has one picture in his wallet.

Who is it? One picture, and that is of a guy who beat him in a submission match in the 50s. So he doesn't want to forget what he looks like. I see that motherfucker. That's who he keeps in his wallet for 50 years. Not his kids, not his grandkids, not his wife, none of that shit. He doesn't want to kill them. What was it, Luther Lindsay?

I can't remember. It's a black guy from the 50s who was a good wrestler. I think it's Luther Lindsay. I'm not sure. But he said, that son of a bitch beat me in a submission match. I keep his picture. He reminds me every day. He's going to go fucking dig him up and put him in some sort of weird submission hold.

What do you think of that there, Luther? Let me have you. Let me have you. I'm having you, Luther. I'm having you. You've been dead for 12 years, but I'm still going to have you. I don't know what he does. So at this point, Stu was an older guy and he wasn't doing like he had.

Bruce was his son. point the stew was an older guy and he wasn't doing like he had uh bruce was his son uh bruce is kind of the as the heart kids go he's kind of like the assistant to his dad he was like the booker of this calgary territory because stew heart owns the calgary wrestling territory uh so it's stampede championship wrestling so he owns uh their stampede wrestling he owns stampede so bruce kind of helps him run it and bruce would help train a lot of the guys that would come in. And Jim says that Bruce taught him how to take bumps, how to take the flat bumps and all that type of shit. Not cocaine bumps.

Not cocaine bumps. He said, yeah, you do it right off the back of your hand. It's a simple way. If you can get a black girl and get her ass in there. Shows up real great. The 70s Canadian style. Good luck finding one up here in calgary let me tell you there are a few and far between but if you find one get it a bend over

she's on rotation every every coke head is using her you know it goes it's terrible terrible so it's a hard business it's being a a coke ass and that's your that's all your only business no sex no nothing she's a classy lady. She gave no sex. She says cocaine off my ass and not a fucking you don't touch another part of it with your nose, not your tongue. Thank you. That's it. So Bret Hart, Bret the Hitman Hart said, quote, My dad was no spring chicken anymore, and I didn't see anyone past night hard that he was putting the time into.

He completely trained Jim on his own. Jim was my dad's product. Jim was third in the world at Shotput in high school, I guess. He was trained to get signed by the Oakland Raiders and was referred to my dad by somebody at the gym, who was Gene LaBelle, of course, at the gym. He called directory assistance, found my dad, and asked him to teach him to wrestle. I don't know. I would assume the promoter in L.A. would have given him his number, at least. I don't think he would have said, go to Calgary's a phone book kid go to Calgary and find him like I

would assume he said here's his phone number look him up yeah Brett's stories are always a little bit like uh they're accurate to the point of like he kept like diaries and notes and shit so like he has they're more accurate than most people's but uh he also kind of self-aggrandizes a lot in there you gotta embellish and make the story good that's yeah he's who gives a shit if he came up there that's the thing and he's a creative guy too like he's a good artist he does drawing and shit bret hart so yeah i think he's a creative guy i mean might be able to spin a yarn uh he said quote he was a big strong kid he had a bench press close to 600 pounds which that seems like a lot that seems yeah he was super strong and really quick.

He left Calgary after my dad taught him and got signed by the Raiders. He came back to train with my dad after he was injured. Then he was with the Cowboys and got cut. He was the last cut of the year of the Cowboys when they won the Super Bowl in 78. That's what Brett says, but there's timelines there are a little skewed. Jim says he came in 79, not 78. So Brett got his shit. It's just timelines timelines there are a little skewed jim says he came in 79 not 78 so brett got his shit it's just timelines he got a little twisted there but you know it sounds like the first dude telling the bible stories and they're like no no no no no no brett's been

kicked in the head quite a few times let's let's put it that way he's had strokes because of it at this point because uh yeah brett wore pink yeah it wasn't fashionable. Yeah, and we'll talk about that, obviously, too. December 26th, 1979, Jim marries one of Stu Hart's daughters. Oh. And this is a pattern that's going to go on. All these kids are involved in the wrestling business in some way. The boys are wrestlers. The girls are married to wrestlers because that's who's at their house all the time.

Night Hart married a Hart? Night Hart married a Hart. That married a heart that's fascinating which is amazing that's the whole thing is really kind of a weird serendipitous night on the beginning of her name that's the weird thing yeah it's it's perfect uh it's this is elizabeth who everybody calls ellie who he marries ellie is one of 12 kids who are brett ellie smith bruce keith wayne dean ross and owen and also georgia are Brett, Ellie, Smith, Bruce, Keith, Wayne, Dean, Ross, and Owen, and also Georgia, Allison, and Diana. Those are all the kids. Diana was married to the British bulldog, Davey Boy Smith,

and we'll talk about that because she has a really harsh claim that ties Jim into it in her book later, which is pretty rough stuff. So he worked for Stampede Wrestling from 78, 79 up until 1983. He's always billed from Reno, Nevada for some reason. In the WWF always too. From Reno, Nevada.

He's never lived in Reno, Nevada. He's a California guy. He moved to Calgary and then once he gets going in Calgary, he ends up moving to Florida and living there forever. He didn't even drive through Reno on his way to Dallas. I don't know if he's ever been to Reno at the time that he says he's from Reno. While he's in Stampede, he's a two-time international tag team champ there.

Hercules Ayala is one of his partners there. He does well, and Stu pushes him. He likes him, and also he's married to his daughter. So if you want to get a leg up in the promotion, you could marry the promoter's daughter, and that helps. Jim had talent anyway. It doesn't matter. He was a big, rough, and tough guy that had some talent, so they were going to push him anyway. But the fact that he's married to his daughter is going to make sure that he gets a good paycheck at the end of the week. He's not going to get a $150 paycheck and then say, well, how am I supposed to support your daughter on that?

Obviously, I can't get another job because I'm in a fucking van driving 500 miles every night. A guy shitting his pants in the back. Yeah, I got other things to worry about. You've had me. All the time. You've had me. Now, in the early 80s here, like 81, he has a daughter named Jennifer. Him and Ellie have a daughter named jennifer uh him and ellie have a daughter named jennifer

may 27th 1982 he has a daughter natalie who is the future and current wwe star uh natalia she goes by really natty yeah natalia neidhart who is uh that's his daughter okay and so uh yeah she is a tough looking broad man she's uh she a real stocky, muscular, athletic chick. Down near 40. Yeah, yeah. She's getting up there too. Because it took her a while to catch on. She like went and trained in Japan and shit.

Why the hell would she do that? She had a dude to have her right there. You could have had me there. I guess Japan is like, a lot of the guys train in Japan. It's the hardest training in Japan. They beat the living shit out of you. Harder than a three-sided ring? Oh, by far. Yeah, it's even worse. Yeah, it's the hardest training in japan they beat the living shit out of you by far oh by far yeah it's even worse yeah it's awful oh by the way when he was up there he said he lived in like some little shack on the property for a while uh it was like what he called like

the servants quarters ellie would come visit him there yeah he lived on the shack he said it was fucking disgusting he was gross said stew heart would come in and knock on the door in the morning and just bumming beers off him and shit. What is going on? Where am I? So, yeah, has her. He worked some New Japan wrestling in there, too. He goes, Stampede, Stu Hart in Japan always had a relationship sending wrestlers back and forth. It's kind of where the Dynamite Kid came from and all that.

Makes sense why he sent his daughter there. Yeah. Later on on she wanted to go there because it's uh it's just known as if you want to train the right way if you really want to do it you can go to japan and get your ass kicked and it's considered uh you know you have uh it's like street cred okay in the business type of thing you know it's like training with the gracies exactly it's that sort of thing there's some shit like that yeah it's exactly the same type of thing so uh bruce hart says at this point like I said, he's one of the Hart sons who's kind of running, helping run the promotion up there.

He said, we began phasing out the older, slower, prodding veteran types, and Jim fit right into that group of young performers. He was always a team player. Jim presented a lot of enthusiasm behind the scenes, not only when he was in Calgary, but later on when he was in WWE. He was always one of the guys in the dressing room that was pumping everyone up on the road. He was always a breath of fresh air. He's a he's a fucking fun, crazy guy. He's a real boisterous guy. And if you ever seen his interviews, he would do this laugh at the end of them or this like

cackle laugh. And like he's a real boisterous kind of upbeat, crazy guy. So people always everyone says they like him. this like cackle laugh and like he's a real boisterous kind of upbeat crazy guy so uh people always a lot everyone says they like him he's not a guy that anyone says is an asshole or he's all of his problems are self-destructive and he's a fun guy to be around my kind of guy whatever your kind of guy for now for now and he'll remain your type of guy your kind of guy i think i don't think he's ever gonna not be okay uh 83 he goes on. Quickly with Calgary, too, because it means something for later. He said they were getting rid of the old guys there.

Their style became a much faster style than everywhere else. The Calgary style was like an upbeat, fast, a lot of motion, a lot of movement. Showy. Yeah, showy, but hard-hitting, too. Hard-hitting, tough, and fast. Don't go out there and sit in a chin lock for 20 minutes you go out there and make it fun to watch yeah sell the popcorn motherfucker exactly and if you saw in the mid-80s when the british bulldogs and heart foundation would go at each other there uh they let each other have each other there uh they would

have these crazy great matches that were just up and down and back and forth and it was that style it's the creepiest fucking thing let me have you there in a in a dank dark cold canadian basement some hunched over old man like i said it looks like he's lost his soul and now wants yours to replace it he's gonna let me have you there in a room where caribou have been taken apart for years years years so fuck man so 83 he goes and works for georgia championship wrestling which is in obviously georgia this is for ole anderson is the booker and jim barnett who's a crazy flamboyant uh promoter we've talked about a lot who's super gay and funny and hilarious and uh interesting just a character and a half now stew hart when he was in calgary they tried they were looking for a name for him he's just just Jim Neidhart. That's what they're calling him, Jim Neidhart, which is not flashy.

They tried calling him the animal for a little while, and he didn't really like that. And so Stu, to promote him, Stu basically forces him to enter the anvil toss competition at the Calgary Stampede. And he said, if you enter the contest and win, I'll give you 500 bucks. So Jim was like, fuck it, let's do it. I throw heavy shit all the time. Fuck it. So he does. It's a 100-pound anvil.

God, Jesus. To try to toss it. And he said, Jim said, you could toss it any way you want. Some guys did it on their shoulder. And some guys would kind of scoop under it and try to get it from the bottom and some guys like the best way some guys would try to do it get it as high in the air to try to have so there's like less loft to go down so he said he scooped under it and kind of tossed it that way yeah it seems the smartest way and he uh he threw it 11 feet two inches a hundred pound which is pretty fucking

impressive i don't think i could throw a 40 pound bag of dog food that far off 11 feet, 2 inches, 100-pound anvil, which is pretty fucking impressive. I don't think I could throw a 40-pound bag of dog food that far. No, 11 feet, 2 inches. That's far. He said it hurt. He's like, that shit was hard. He goes, that was fucking hard. That was the hardest thing. So much he wanted, 500 bucks.

Yeah. Did he win? He won. Yeah, the promoter was telling him to. It was his father-in-law and his boss. He's going to go into that contest on that anvil there. You have no choice at that. Let me have you.

He's going to have you if you don't. So at that point, this is, I guess, Helen Hart, the matriarch of the family there. Stu's wife decided he should be called the anvil at that point. Oh, yeah. It fucking stuck forever. So anyway, Georgia Championship Wrestling, he teamed up with King Kong Bundy for a while. And I believe this is King Kong Bundy with hair. Really?

If I'm not sure. God rest his soul. This is pre-shaven headed King Kong Bundy, if I'm not mistaken. Body's still warm at this point. Yeah, King Kong is a, yeah, well, it's going to take a while for that thing to. To cool off. Yeah, it's a lot of heat stored up in there for King Kong. To cool off.

Yeah, it's a lot of heat start up in there for King Kong. By the way, John Oliver on his show did a wrestling segment, and he talked about King Kong Bundy, and he was bringing up guys. And he did a good job, John Oliver, by the way. I'm not talking shit about it at all. I thought he did a really fine job in a 25-minute clip. No, and he got a lot of information in and really put home the need for health care and the need for these guys to be fucking employees and not independent contractors when they're in 2019 okay they're not

college athletes fucking crazy it's crazy they give you a schedule this is where this is your schedule can i work for that company on my day off of course not you work for us but you can't you're not an employee you work for us you work for us yeah jesus it's insane so anyway uh he did a good job he talked about bundy and talked about a couple guys that died recently and was talking about how wrestlers die early but like the ones who die early for like king kong bundy died early he's a 400 plus pound guy he's gonna die he's not gonna live to be 85 years old yeah six foot five guys that weigh 430 pounds don't live to be in their 80s they just don't 60 whatever is a pretty good run for him i would think the ultimate warrior should have had a little more longevity had a little more longevity exactly that's the guys like that should have been brought

up more he did bring up eddie guerrero who's kind of the poster child for the need for a real oversight on the drugs and everything follow up'll follow up after they're gone. Well, shit, while he was still there. Yeah. Because he died when he was still employed with them. Yeah, he was still employed with them. He was on the road, died in a hotel room. Like a lot of them do, sadly.

It's Jesus never let me die in a fucking hotel room. There's another crossover with comedy. I swear to God. That's what I mean. It's the same thing. Comedian, no one dies in hotel rooms more than comedians and wrestlers. And another independent contractor thing where. And it's another.

I'm at this club. Well, if you work those clubs, you can't work in our club. That's what I mean. Oh, but I'm, but I'm, but I don't work for you. Okay. But you're not going to guarantee me anything or any amount of, at least these guys would have like a certain guaranteed amount of dates or something where, you know, we didn't even have that.

We'll give us your avails. Yeah. We'll give us your avails and we'll see when we can use you. And then maybe you'll make a living next month and maybe you won't. Maybe you won't. Maybe you fucking won't. And that's comedy'll give us your avails. Yeah, we'll give us your avails, and we'll see when we can use you, and then maybe you'll make a living next month, and maybe you won't. Maybe you won't. Maybe you fucking won't, and that's comedy. Maybe your car gets repoed.

We'll see. Hey, let's roll the dice on rent for next month. What do you say, guy? See if you're riding the bus to your next gig. I'm telling you, bro. Let's have a look. That's exactly what it fucking is. You have no job security.

It's the same exact thing, and they wonder why comics and wrestlers were shitty to the people who were leery of promoters, and they'll do anything to try to get an extra buck in the fuck you over. It's like, well, yeah, that's all you have. You're getting fucked in the left, right and center and you're, you have no security. So you're going to get yours any way you can. And addiction problems and addiction problems because you're done at night and you have no fucking idea what your next gig is and maybe you're a little depressed and it's 11 o'clock at night everyone's going home to go to bed and you're all jacked up at the top peak of your jackness and you're like

what are we all doing you're not gonna go home and go to bed at that point and that's why you end up with who's got pills yeah who's got pills who's got this uh he worked for Mid-South Wrestling in 83, 84. And Mid-South is Bill Watts. We've talked about him a lot, too. That is the Oklahoma, Louisiana kind of territory in there. His territory, which was a crazy one. He said this is where he learned to do interviews and stuff like that on TV. And this is where he grew his goatee.

He had a tag team partner, and they decided, let's grow goatees so we look like each other and we look different than everyone else. Yeah. You know how that goes. So he just grew these long goatees, and he said his just came in real cool. I know how it goes. It comes in stiff and long and pointy. Well, mine's wavy, but I can grow it long.

It grows long fast. No, his is impressive as a goatee. Like a unicorn on his chin. That's what he looks like. Yeah. So he ends up keeping it, and that becomes his signature look forever. And flat top hairdo, goatee. And sunglasses.

He's a silhouette that you can see. You can pick him out. You can pick out his shadow. Absolutely. Yeah. He also ends up in different iterations of the NWA around this time. Wins some titles here and there. But the big thing is Stampede is sold to Vince McMahon.

Stu Hart sells his company to Vince McMahon. This is when Vince McMahon's going around either buying you or fucking crushing you. One of the two. And Stu actually goes with the program and says i'll sell it to you and has a great relationship with him forever uh because of that so he sells him stampede and this is supposed to be for i can't remember the amount but it's supposed to be certain amount of payments he's supposed to get every year yearly payments and part of the deal is give uh give my kid and uh and my son-in-law is a look also take him to take him with you to wwf

and give him a chance and see if you want him and that's bret hart how humiliating so we put the zebra in pink on him this is well we'll talk about that but uh they sent bret hart owen was still young at that point he wasn't really in it yet they sent brett they sent jim the anvil who is stew's son-in-law davy boy who is stew's other son-in-law and then dynamite kid who is Stu's son-in-law, Davey Boy who is Stu's other son-in-law and then Dynamite Kid who is another English wrestler who is Davey Boy's tag team partner to make up the British Bulldogs. So they all go over there in 85. January

of 85 is when Jim ends up in the WWF. At this point his debut is on January 21st, 85 in Madison Square Garden. So he's gone from the mat in the basement to fucking MSG in 85. And January 21st, 85. This is three months before the first WrestleMania.

This is hot, hot, hot as it gets sold out every fucking show. Look at the timing. Crazy crowds. Oh, he came in at the they came in right at the cusp. I mean, literally three months before WrestleMania. So it's just about to fucking explode. And it has exploded, but it's about to go to a different level of national. Very much like comedy.

Very much like comedy. No, they mirror each other so much. Also, at this point, Bret Hart's in there, and they're trying to figure out what to do with Bret Hart, who's just like this nondescript. And he's not a real boisterous guy. He's just kind of aondescript and he's not a he's not a real boisterous guy he's just kind of a plane he's kind of he's very canadian he's just kind of a stoic canadian guy with long black hair who goes with the program what do you do with him uh so they were going to make him a cowboy they're going to make him cowboy brett heart literally and they're going to give him a hat and chaps and everything else fuck and brett was like i don't want to fucking be cowboy brett

that's death you know you know you know that's death there's like eight other cowboys running around none of them matter in wrestling no one cares about cowboys in wrestling so he's you know not since cowboy fucking bill watts in the 60s and 70s like no one cares anymore about cowboys in the 80s so instead as a last ditch effort to not be a cowboy brett says, you want to be a team with me? To Jim. And then goes to Vince and says, what if we're a team? And they actually were like, hmm, man, we could try that out. Because really, they had no ideas. So they were like, fuck it.

That's better than just you being a cowboy and whatever. So we don't really care about either of you. Let's see if together it's something. Okay. So they team him up with, at first, Jim was managed by mr fuji uh who's a terrible japanese stereotype so bad oh god he threw salt in the eyes and everything i mean he's the worst of them all had the tuxedo with the white gloves and throwing salt at you and a cane and a top hat and he waddled and he go he actually i saw an interview where he actually said, ah, so. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me?

Are you fucking kidding me? He is an Austin Powers character. He is. No, that's exactly what he is. He's before Austin Powers was mocking that. He was. So when they hook him up with Bret Hart, they give, ah, so. I was like, did he just say that?

He's Hawaiian. He's not, you know, like fuji's hawaiian my best to suspend disbelief stop pissing in my face doing that jesus christ how can you be racist against yourself you are somehow you are wrestling can make 80s wrestling could make whatever you are you're racist against yourself you can't help it you just are every black guy was like you know head shakingly like stereotypical every japanese guy was doing aso and throwing salt and doing pearl harbor jobs behind they were always sneaky we talked about this wrestling back then was the most racist thing in the world uh hard heads you had anybody from an island or

black people you couldn't hurt their heads literally they'd send them into the turnbuckle they go you gotta know better you're not gonna hurt him in the head and it's like why because he's black literally every black guy sd jones fucking junkyard dog every black guy in the 80s and the island guys too they had hard heads japanese are sneaky it couldn't have been worse if the yeah if mr fuji in an interview before the wrestlers come in he smiles and looks over his shoulder and goes, he me play joke. And then sets down a coke. It was the same thing.

That's pretty much what it was. That's pretty much what everything was. Every Latin guy and every Italian guy was fiery, fiery tempered. It was just as fucking stereotypical as it gets. Then you got Hulk Hogan who looks like a balding He-Man, basically. So that was that. fiery tempered you know that's it was just as fucking stereotypical as it gets so i mean yeah then you got hulk hogan who looks like a balding he-man yeah basically so that was that he's just a stereotypical like 80s biker dude yeah with like the weird like the the chopped up clothes and the tank top and the headband well he's in a band so he's like you know florida rocker

florida rocks rock guy who rides his motorcycle to the gig is what he was. That didn't get his garage band picked up. No, with his bass strapped to his back. And he's not giving up the goddamn dream. Yeah. Even though he's bald. No, he's still going to keep it and just get it longer in the back. So the new team, they give them Jimmy Hart to manage them. H-A-R-T, just like Bret Hart is H-A-R-T.

And Jim Neidhart is Neid H-A-R-T. So no relation to any of these people but uh it's pretty fucking amazing and you have you kind of have to put them together at that point you really do and jimmy hart explains the how the name came about uh which seems pretty obvious he says quote we were in miami beach going to the ring i looked behind me and this kid had a jimmy hart's heart foundation and he spelled it h-a-r-t foundation so i saw it and went oh my god uh he went to and then jimmy said he went to the merchandising department at wwf and they liked it and uh uh basically uh they said you couldn't use it wwf said that the h-e-a-r-t

like our heart regular spelling heart foundation is copyrighted right uh but not h-a-r-t so that's that's which is what they are jimmy was like yeah we're h-a-r-t make it that and then that's how their heart foundation it's brilliant but it's kind of shitty yeah to it's it's a it's i mean it's a pun it makes sense though it really does it's brilliant and as a kid i was like this is amazing yeah like these people must all live in a house together like i pictured like as i was like seven i'm picturing like the heart foundation must live in like this weird heart foundation house you know the heart foundation is like what the fuck they're like the monkeys to me like they just all ran around and driving a wacky car yeah so uh they they're at their first pay-per-view

uh first wrestlemania's is WrestleMania II in 86, and they had the 20-man battle royal that had all the football players in it, William Perry in it, the fridge, and all these old football players in it. And at the very end of it, the last three guys are Andre the Giant and the Hart Foundation, Jim and Brett. So what they do is they have Andre toss Jim out of the ring, whatever, and so Jim is standing down below on the floor. If you know, a ring is up high.

And the plan was Andre picks bread up over his head and throws him down onto the floor on top of Jim. Right. Okay. Which sounds pretty easy. Pretty easy. Right. But then Jim explaining it says, you know, you don't realize how tall Andre is. And the ring apron is already fucking three and

a half feet high and then andre's seven feet tall and his arms are another four feet a man 10 feet more than that it's like 15 feet in the air and he said and brett hart's 240 pounds oh jesus he goes and as he's up there i'm looking up and he said i see brett's eyes are as big as saucers like holy shit this is frightening and he says as he's up there he goes i mouth to brett you're too high he's like it's happening anyway like there's no fucking way but he's just thinking he goes no you're too high don't come you're too high you're too heavy and you're too high tap out tap out yeah he was explaining he's like you can't do this you can't put that's the plan and it's you're on live on pay-per-view and it's wrestlemania so jesus said he fucking threw him down on him he said just plan and it's you're on live on pay-per-view and it's wrestlemania so jesus said

he fucking threw him down on him he said just crashed and he's like i was just gonna try to break his fall he goes we've you know he's like are we alive afterwards what the fuck are we doing why did we break his fall i broke my ass it was a funny ass just him going no you're too high you're too high just being all paranoid oh no no he's too high and you're eight buying it you're like oh look at the fear in his eyes yeah Yeah. It's like he's really scared. Yeah. No shit. So the pink.

At this point, they were wearing black. They were in all black. They had like a blue stripe, a maroon stripe sometimes. And sometimes they had blue pants. At one point, Brett explains it, how the seamstress, the lady who makes all the costumes for the WWF at the time uh basically kept trying to push this fuchsia color on everybody she's got a ton of it it's like a new color and she she was excited about it she's trying to get everybody to wear it everyone's

like we're not wearing fucking pink i'm not wearing pink yeah and uh apparently at uh finally brett said you know what fuck it throw us in the fucking pink and let's see what it looks like because they just needed something a gimmick of something different so he says uh this is what he says uh brett says quote vince vince mcmahon stared mouth agape and circled us around uh oh we thought looks like vince doesn't like our new gear fearing the worst we were shocked when he enthusiastically said that is what you guys have been missing all along you had no color that is your color from now on don't wear anything else the pink and black attack and that was that fucking pink from now on and it looked like they look like referees in the nfl in october they look like referees in the

lingerie bowl that's what they fucking look like but they popped yeah they look different from everyone else i remember it and that that group if you look at them uh they really like brett and jim look completely different yeah brett is like long hair like the girls dug brett and shit like that brett looked like he'd be a dick and then if you wanted to fight him jim would pop out from behind him and tear your fucking head off and be like you want to fight i'll fight motherfucker. And then beat the shit out of you. And Brett would laugh at you. And then Jimmy Hart would cackle at you through a bullhorn while you're on the floor unconscious.

Like that's, that was the dynamic of the group from the outside. And Jimmy Hart says that too. He says, what a great run we had. I couldn't believe how it took off. But the reason why was night hard was such a great character back then. Brett was more cool.

The girls loved him. And then night hard and myself are kind of like the evil twins they were always like laughing and giggling and being like crazy great time having a great fucking time uh so he's getting very popular and this is when the heart foundation was getting big uh january 1987 uh on a flight on us air oh boy from never a good start from tampa to pittsburgh which is like going from tampa to pittsburgh it's fucking terrible that's i don't even know what else to put how else to put it from tampa to frozen tampa i was literally gonna say what fucking fort lauderdale to cleveland it's the same thing tampa to pittsburgh that's the best way to explain it somebody turned the

ac down that's it it's just's all. That's all it is. There's a flight attendant named Ava Winston, and she claims that apparently Jim ordered beers and then said that he had coupons for free beers from the airline, which they used to have back then. They used to give those out all the time, especially to frequent flyers, which he was. They still do it. But he couldn't find his beer coupons. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So she claims that he got belligerent with her, and she refused to serve him two beers. She claims he got belligerent and claims that he poked at her and then with a clenched fist punched her four or five times in the arm. Huh? Hard, she says. this is her claim stood up in the aisle of the fucking plane a big giant flat top giant goateed monster drill the stewardess you would notice in a plane and fucking started drilling the stewardess with closed fists okay that's her claim uh uh the they call the fbi and u.s marshals the pilot does from the plane the stewardess asks

for that when they land in pittsburgh there are fbi agents waiting to take jim off the plane which is never good uh he didn't he uh apparently wasn't real thrilled about that either so there was some some scuffling when he gets off the plane uh he uh uh so he ends up being arrested for this he misses a match the next day in ohio but then wrestles the next night in pittsburgh and is uh freed on a ten thousand dollar unsecured bond he's charged with a with felony uh felony assault and disrupting a flight service and all this shit he faces up to 20 years in prison oh my god and rightfully so and a ten thousand dollar fine yeah don't beat up a flight attendant please at all that's terrifying yeah that's terrifying you're in a tube right don't fuck around in that tube everybody's 600 miles an hour everybody sit down

shut the fuck up if you don't have to piss just shut up and sit down and if you do have to piss if it's not that bad wait till you get to the fucking airport we're all nobody needs if we all just pissed willy-nilly the fucking paint plane would stink of piss the whole way everywhere it went then you're adding weight to god damn it that's the other stop it i'm sure they just spray it out how do you how do you have to shit on a how do you not plan your day i don't know you have to unless you're ill unless you have a serious illness at that point if you got that illness stay the fuck up maybe fucking take a later flight when your insides fucking you know

when they when they clam up a bit when they when they can seal shut for a few hours when things become solid in there uh so this goes to trial uh here in april of 1987 and jim is on trial for this is hardcore man uh uh at the time here uh the his lawyer who is the wwe's lawyer and this guy is like silver-haired middle-aged white man 1a fucking top of the heap here yeah jerry mcdevitt who is known as the guy who anytime the wwe wants to sue somebody and they're super litigious and shit they send you get get a letter from this asshole saying some ridiculous shit, whatever. Making a claim that he can't prove in court. But it sounds right.

And it's very threatening. And he says McDevitt says he wasn't accustomed to defending characters like this. He said he was did like mainly business shit, like actually in court. He said, quote, Most of my clients wore gray suits gray underwear gray everything night hard comes in he's got these wraparound shades zz top beard closely cropped hair he was one of the scariest looking people i've ever seen in my life i remember thinking when i saw him that if a guy like him did what they say he did everybody in that plane would have seen him because he draws eyes yeah which is the first thing i thought too okay imagine the spectacle of that man fucking punching a stewardess that was there's a shitload of him on that plane yeah yeah it's just

he's gonna fucking stand out uh so at the trial uh the ava winston testifies for the prosecution she testified that she had two different confrontations with him and then she was so afraid that she couldn't complete her duties for the rest of the flight uh now uh another flight attendant uh actually testified also on her behalf that this happened uh problem is the defense had uh uh the defense had 18 witnesses uh that said that shit didn't happen at all including another flight attendant and basically everybody from the section around him on the plane. Unbelievable. They all said none of that shit happened at all. If anything, he tapped her on the arm with his finger to get her attention,

and that's all anybody saw. He never got up. It probably felt like a punch. Yeah, he never got up, and he definitely never hit her with a closed fist, is what all these people said. Now, the verdict here, the jury deliberates for 90 minutes. This is a U.S. district court. The jury deliberates for not as a u.s district court jury deliberates

for 90 minutes and they acquit jim neidhart wow very rare acquittal for crime and sports yeah now that's what vince mcmahon does for you you bet this was a time three years ago he got jimmy hart off of fucking killing abroad just by going dummy up and act like you don't speak english and the guy fucking wrestled for another 30 years so literally you know what i mean he means snooker what did i say jimmy hart jimmy hart jimmy snooker jimmy hart never killed anybody he was in the gentries and saying keep on dancing he i don't think he killed anybody but he was actually but i mean we know that for sure but to our knowledge never killed never killed anybody not not sure he could he could be a prolific serial killer we have no idea there could be we're pretty sure of it there could be bodies all littered up and down the florida

interstates for all we know with jimmy hart but we don't know that for sure but snooka this is the time when vince was all powerful and crushing things and that is vince's lawyer that represented him so no no speaky yeah jim hyatt neidhardheart said, he didn't speak English, is what he said. He's a redhead from California. He said, I don't speak English. And they bought it. He said it in perfect English. They said, excuse me, sir, I don't speak English at all. I'm not going to participate in this trial.

That's the English I've learned. I'm incapable. So it's the charges of assault and interfering with a flight attendant. He is acquitted. with a flight attendant he is acquitted uh later on that day he uh files a lawsuit suing the u.s air suing uh the accuser and the woman who testified against him for defamation lawsuits abound uh yes uh it's against him against stephanie ziggler who's another flight attendant that he claims lied when she says she witnessed the punch uh she he says that the story uh uh night heart said us air supported the attendant story even though it was fabricated so he's suing them

also uh they claim that the winston intentionally maliciously and with premeditation made false and defamatory statements to various us air officials airport personnel and law enforcement officers to the effect that night heart had assaulted and intimidated her. My word. So he is suing the shit out of her. Like I said, she gave her version to the FBI and all that. He's going to win. Now, listen to this.

This is hilarious, the way they put this lawsuit. Neidhart said the accusations led to him, quote, this is fucking awesome. Keep in mind what he does. Keep in mind he flies around the country pretends to be a psychopath and this wasn't back in the day when it was like oh this is jim neidhart who plays the character of jim the anvil neidhart this was like people thought this was the real guy uh and is a psychopath that beats the shit out of people uh he says he's being held up to scorn ridicule and contempt among his professional acquaintances what the fuck what they're going

out what are you not gonna not gonna have flight attendants jim they're not uh quote uh neighbors and others in the community uh as a result this is awesome nightheart's business reputation business reputation unsullied psychopath is a good business reputation for a wrestler health and state of mind have suffered the suit said so he's claiming like emotional damages about this he's very sensitive man well there's no physical obviously so he's got to go with emotional uh yeah uh they argued that no one could have missed him obviously doing this if it happened that uh everybody exaggerated the flight attendants exaggerated everything uh so vince mcmahon by the way loaned him the money to sue the airline yeah you know who he hired

who rick santorum really yeah ex-senator rick santorum fucking crazy religious crazy religious lunatic right wing isn't santorum like a name of something that you secrete? Ah, yes. They made a, there was a big thing about that where if you. Like a gay sex secretion. If you Googled Santorum, because he's so anti-gay. He's like vehemently anti-gay. Oh, so it was because of him? It was because of him. Because he was so anti-gay, they made a campaign to make his last name.

Be butthole juice. Yeah, be a gay sex term. And that was, for years, the highest. If you search Santorum, that's what came up above him. So that was on purpose, to fuck with him, which I think is hilarious. I don't care what your political affiliations are. That's hilarious.

That is objectively funny. May I never make internet trolls angry. That is fucking amazing. Not clever ones like that that's fucking good shit that's incredible because it sounds like what gay butt juice would be that's it's perfect it really works so this is a guy who was a senator in pennsylvania and ended up running for president a couple times very unsuccessfully uh so uh he ends up, though, getting a settlement out of this. Jim wins the case and gets a $380,000 settlement out of this.

Jesus, Lord. So out of all this, he ends up getting $380,000. That's a little bit later, and we'll talk about how he, when Vince wanted his money back for that lawyer, by the way. We'll talk about that. Brett Hart, in his book said that uh at this point most of the money that he had the 380 000 was blown on cocaine a kawasaki ninja motorcycle and then the remains of the cash settlement he kept in his fanny pack on his body at all times

while he wrestled while he yeah i'm sure you're out there in his fanny pack he had it in his fanny pack riding around on his motorcycle with like a hundred grand in his fucking fanny pack how much cocaine did he do a shitload really we'll talk about it jim liked his cocaine and then later on he loved his crack boy oh he's in the crack and then pills and oh buddy uh now vince took the money out of his lawyer for the lawyer out of his checks in the future uh this was later on in like 91 we'll talk about that when this money came out uh neidhard saw his checks and said what the where the fuck is my money and they said yeah we're you're paying me back for the lawyer now neidhard freaked the fuck out of course uh and went looking for uh chief j strongbow who's a backstage agent there, found him,

and then took a TV monitor and threw it at Chief J. Strongbow, shot-putter style. Oh, boy. And I guess Strongbow got out of the way, but it hit one of the TV directors in the leg. Oh, shit. He broke his leg.

Of course. It fucking hurt him bad. So, Neidhardt just left the arena, got in his car, and drove away. He's just like, fuck this. He left.

This led to a brief firing. Neidhardt gets fired from the arena, got in his car, and drove away. He's just like, fuck this. He left. This led to a brief firing. Neidhard gets fired from the WWE approximately 77 times. It's ridiculous. He's fired constantly. Constantly. That's how good of a wrestler he is, though. After throwing a TV? Not only that.

First of all, he's kind of popular. But by the early 90s, he'd kind of, they could have left, you know, took or left him at that point, but he is Brett's brother, and he's part of that clan, and Stu has a certain thing with Vince where Vince will do Stu favors. It's a weird

thing, and Brett, at that point, when this is all going on, Brett is becoming like Intercontinental Champ, and then he's going to be Champ. He's becoming a mainstay. And every time he'd be fired, he'd be gone for a little while. And they said Stu would call Vince up and go, hey, you got anything for the big guy there? You know, he needs some work there. You know, I talked to him.

He's going to be better this time. My grandkids are hungry. It's basically like you can hire my son-in-law. I need you to do this for me. And they would fucking bring him back in. And then he'd be there for a while and he'd fuck up and they'd fire him. And then Stu'd go, Hey,

the bull's ready to come back there. So that's who it went. That's how it went. Uh, uh, so anyway, back to wrestling in 87, this is right around the,

the January was the, the incident on the plane, uh, February 7th. This was taped January 26th. So it's taped like 10 days after the incident. They win the tag team championships from the British Bulldogs there, which is they had good matches with them all along. Dynamite Kid was hurt here.

His back was fucked up. So they basically had him go out there. This is what I mean with wrestling. Dynamite Kid couldn't fucking walk. He's in a wheelchair now and everything, but he couldn't even fucking walk because his back was so fucked up he hurt it really bad he had like blown out discs uh so they said just go out there get knocked off the ring and pretend you're fucking hurt so they made him go out there take one bump and then fucking lay out for the rest of the match and they had so it basically became a handicap match with davey uh getting the shit beat out of him by

the hearts and they had Danny Davis was the referee who they ran a big angle where he was a crooked referee at the time who was you know he didn't macho man won the intercontinental title using a foreign object when he was the ref and they basically made him he would cheat the good guys all the time

the guy with his back turned yeah he would cheat the good guys and you know everything and after this he ends up being suspended by the WWF and becomes a wrestler becomes a part of the heart foundation and they give him this terrible striped outfit that was the worst thing ever uh yeah so uh anyway they're tag team champs and this is like when i was a kid i was super into wrestling right at this very moment and like in my head the tart foundation were always the champs because that's when they were when i was into it and uh grace this is grace right here let's this is definitely grace okay so they hold the titles all the way to november it's a pretty good run there about 10 months uh they lose them to strike force which is rick martell and tito santana uh which was a

pretty lame tag team from being honest here uh now uh his daughter natty the natalia wwe she says quote i loved reminiscing with my dad about his matches with the bulldogs and his partnership with my uncle brett as the heart foundation he always said that wrestling the bulldogs felt like a night off my dad loves uncle brett uh owen and davy and grandfather stew when you travel the world with someone sharing the same passion like they did, you build an unbreakable bond. And they're traveling constantly. Yeah. This is the most traveling of any thing ever.

It's the most violent circus on earth. And this 87 WWF was the peak of the pressure cooker. They had three shows running a night. Fuck. They had an A show, a B show, a C show. Running in a big arena, a smaller arena, and then like a high school gym with 2,000 people. They had three shows every night. Jim went through a period of this, it's legendary, where he worked 91 straight days.

On the road, did not go home for 91 days. That's too much. That's three solid months of every single day you wake up, go to the airport, get in a plane, get off, get a hotel, go wrestle, get out, find something to eat, go to sleep, get up, get on a plane. 91 straight days. We did that for four days. And I wanted to kill everyone I saw. Everyone besides you. We get along fine on the road.

We do great. We know each other's rhythms so well that it's fine. So that's, I feel like, how they were. We know each other's rhythms so well that it's fine. So that's, I feel like, how they were. Jim said that in all the years they traveled, because him and Brett are tied together through all this, they never once got in a fight on the road, ever. How about that? No disagreements.

They just were trying to get through it together. I think that's what it is, because you get to a point where you're just like, I'm irritable. I don't want to do this flight. But the one thing that I do have is that you're doing it, too. Yeah, that's what I mean. And that's what it was. Like, well, at least we're in it together. Fuck it. Like, we both have to do it. but the one thing that i do have is that you're doing it too yeah that's what i mean and that's that's what it was like well at least we're in it together fuck it like we both have to do it we both hate this so we may as well commiserate exactly fucking exactly uh so at this point here the heart foundation they become they're they're still a good team they

try to make them good guys at one point and bad guys and jimmy hart turns on them and then they're good guys which is kind of lame uh the heart foundation uh ends up uh winning the titles back from demolition uh at summer slam in 88 here so uh they end up doing that uh they uh they continue they feud with all jimmy hart's people basically and that sort of thing wrestlemania 5 uh they are with Jim Duggan in a six-man hacksaw, Jim Duggan defeating the Rougeaus and Dino Bravo. So, yeah, that's... I really loved when they introduced makeup into this, because that really set it.

Because a lot of these guys just looked so goddamn similar, even with the outfit being a little different. Yeah, they painted their faces up. We got, like, Sting and Goldust and all the weird shit. Yeah, Ultimate Warrior. Yeah, Ultimate Warrior. The real fun, like, psychotic. Yeah, the road warriors.

Kane came in with a fucking mask. Yeah, the powers of pain back then. That shit, Warlord and Barbarian. I love that. Yeah, no, that was pretty cool. Well, at this point, Brett starts kind of breaking away as a single a little bit here in wrestlemania 4 they do a thing they have a battle royal in the beginning of it and they have a thing with him and bad news brown both win uh they they

decide to split it and then bad news brown like turns on him it kind of makes a little bit of a good guy the fans wanted to cheer them the heart foundation Foundation. They did. When they turned good guy, the fans went nuts because they were like, fuck yeah, we've been liking these guys, sort of, and we wanted to cheer them,

but we hate Jimmy Hart and his fucking megaphone. So yeah, WrestleMania VI in Toronto, they beat the Bolsheviks, which were the shitty Russian team. Think about this. It's like 1990.

A Russian team was as played as it gets. Nobody cared anymore. It was very, very sad. Cold War's over. Stop it. team and think about this it's like 1990 a russian team was as played as it gets yeah like nobody cared anymore uh it was it was very very sad war's over it's it's fucking done here at summer slam 90 they win the tag team title again uh at that point so uh they have a weird thing here with sean michaels and marty genetti the rockers they go to lose the titles to them but the top rope broke broke oh shit uh during the match and they never fixed it so they decided they couldn't air it and then they the rockers had to give the belts back to the heart foundation because they were like we're just not going to do it now how fucked is that

that's terrible we're going to be champs and make more money and this is going to be great oh no the rope broke so we're you're not getting anything now back to where you were just the chance and luck of that anyway that, that's an elevator rope. That's not fucking rubber bands. No. Well, it's like the turnbuckle thing. Oh, okay. In the corner?

Yeah. Something broke or the ropes. I don't remember what it was. The WWF, they actually used ropes. Oh, they did? They're the only ones that didn't use cables. Everybody else used steel cables. I've seen that shit.

It looks horrible. Ropes. WWF used actual fucking ropes. Okay. And I think they still do. They all say they're they're less springy yeah they're a little stiffer they're less springy goddamn rope yeah it's a different thing it's it's actual rope and they break sometimes i'm shocked that they don't guys have broken ropes i'm shocked they don't have just like elastic bands it's well the steel cables seem to be the way to go but the wwe thinks the

ropes are i mean you get that sound of the ropes when they hit them. They get that kind of crunch of rope that sounds right. I don't know. Aesthetically, it works. Yeah, but... And it looks like rope. It's not just like that smooth cable cover. It seems like you could get...

Well, even the one that I saw was just like duct tape covered over it, and it looked like dog shit. Yeah, although those are shit. It looked like it hurt. Yeah, those are not great you think that they could get like a workout bands you know i mean like a stress band yeah yeah i think you could get those i don't know how much they hold if a 400 pound if a 400 pound man is running at full speed and putting his body weight like a cannonball into it is it gonna snap and he

break his neck who knows listen that might add to the excitement watch a big 400 pound dude fucking it's happened fling through it's happened before it happened uh i would love it yeah some guy got hurt in training that way it was a big 300 something pounder and the fucking rope broke and he cracked the back of his skull open on the back there jesus now uh when they end up splitting up the heart foundation uh uh neidhardt becomes a commentator for a little bit, which is weird, with Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan, who are like an amazing comedy duo here. And he just wasn't, he felt like he wasn't, couldn't get in the flow of it, because these guys are like real sharp, going back and forth and knew each other. And he's just not really that kind of guy. He did some voiceovers and shit like that, and he ended up going back to the ring after that.

and shit like that, and he ended up going back to the ring after that. He's briefly fired, like we said, with the whole incident with the TV monitor and the money for the lawyer. Mean Gene has a good story here about him. He says, quote, another great story about Jim came from the Marriott in St. Louis. Jim ordered a bottle of Dom Perignon and drank all but the last few drops in the bottle. He then informed the bartender that the champagne was tainted and he didn't want to pay for it.

He just left a sip left. This is no good. He's that salty bitch that eats the whole steak and then says it was overcooked. It was overcooked. So the bartender called the manager and they ended up having him escorted from the building by the police. Gene said he was a character but

a good character yeah see you upstairs eventually jim and yes i'll bring the dom perignon so he's talking about when they all die uh so uh he ends up coming back to the wwe in the new foundation which is him and owen hart who is brett's other brother and his brother-in-law and they form a tag team wearing possibly the worst outfits in the history of wrestling. Owen Hart, I don't know what he did. I don't know if he backhanded Linda McMahon one time or if he called Stephanie fat and ugly when she was a child.

I don't know what he did to Vince, but Vince has just repeatedly put him, until he killed him, until he was thrown from a fucking from a rafter a hundred feet to his death on a ring post. He was really Owen was the most shit on wrestler ever. Yeah, they put him in the stupidest fucking outfits ever worn by human beings in public. And then threw him a hundred feet and then put him in a stupid outfit and tossed him to his death he came in as the blue blazer

which was a stupid that was the one he died in with the stupid mask and he was like a superhero character when he teams with Jim they wear these terrible fuck these jackets dude they okay I don't know how to explain it like bandleader jackets but the

sleep once each side of the front is a different color oh no and they like overlap like you overlap it over the one side and the one side of the of the front of the jacket's longer than the other oh geez like the one side hangs down like past your crotch and then the arms are different colors like one has bright lime green arms and one has bright orange arms with Owen and Jim. And they're like checker checked bright. No, it's the and their pants are like these big, ridiculous genie pants. They're the most ridiculous outfit.

You don't put Jim Neidhart in fucking genie pants. You just don't. It's not cool, man. Then they gave Owen. Then Owen ended up teaming up with coco beware and they put them in even fucking worse outfits these big they look like clown pants these big pants like with suspenders and they were like they look they had checkers all over them they were yellow they look like uh taxi cabs riding around then saw him and was like deal awful

fucking awful so uh yeah ends up uh he ends up teaming with uh with uh owen for a while here uh owen is uh owen is known we've talked about this before as the the biggest trickster kind of in the wrestling circuit there as far he loved playing jokes on people that's why vince put him in all that stupid shit well and his weren't his were never violent they weren't like because some of the guys would do bad shit. Like the bulldogs would cut up people's clothes while they were in the ring. They'd fucking cut up their pants and all that shit. Or they'd, you know, super glue the lock on their suitcase.

What the fuck shit that would cost you money. Yeah. Ribs that would cost you money. Owen would do ribs that would fucking drive you crazy. Like, you know, he, he'd pretend to be the front desk and call your room a hundred times asking a bunch of questions until somebody, until the wrestler would go down to the front desk fucking furious ready to fight i'm trying to sleep stop and they're like what the fuck are you talking about we have no no one has called your room and then they'll get up to the room and owen will call them laughing

and you fucking idiot ha ha ha brilliant they go and be spying on him waiting for him to do it shit like that like he was just like to fuck with people that's pretty good it's a good good well here's another good one here uh that jim told uh he could owen i guess uh he jesus christ he gets a bunch of hotel he goes to the front desk and and says he lost his key and just get but gets a random room key yeah they just give him a key to some random room and then he he gets all the keys for all the guys and says oh here here jim you can stay in my room because i'm not going to be using it i'm going to be my wife's in town i'm going to go over here so you can use my room and just gave him the room key so night hard was like fuck yeah free room all by myself i'm in myself this is great so he walks up you know hammered at fucking

one in the morning and he bursts in the door and there is a fucking sleeping man very scared in his bed going at least he didn't come through the plate glass window but imagine this guy's fire extinguisher up his ass and it's yeah especially in a hotel where it's like dark in the room and if you open the door light floods in imagine seeing this silhouette a giant man with a huge goatee just opening your door with a key in the middle of the night you're gonna be raped and murdered period that's it he's gonna rape you and then tear your legs off and beat you to death with him it's fucking awful so uh yeah that was uh that was pretty fucking pretty amazing so he saw that the guy screamed and jim was a holy shit jesus what the fuck and then he was like owen fucking bastard yeah and owen of course thought it was great

owen bastard yeah and owen of course thought it was great so anyway he ends up leaving uh wwf here uh ends up in ecw right in the beginning of ecw like also in new japan and then later on wcw but ecw which extreme championship wrestling which became kind of the popular third kind of third company in the 90s there this is when they first started out uh this is like when we were recording in my living room in my apartment they would be at mike schmidt's sports bar in philly like literally a sports bar where they had put a fucking ring in and they would have matches wouldn't it be great to have been one of the people that watch that shit yeah especially some of these some of these cards like he's on this card uh jim jim fights salvatore belomo who's an old wwf mainstay

in there uh super destroyers beat the pit bulls or the pit bulls were a good team later on uh sandman before he was hot shit was there so uh yeah it's kind of cool uh that was in 92 may of 92 uh june of 92 he's also at the sports bar again uh fighting salvatore beating salvatore belomo and then beating stevie wonderful who i can't believe is a wrestler because he was an announcer for ecw for a minute he was basically a guy from what i read uh who had some sound equipment yeah so they let like hang around they needed sound equipment and he had some sound equipment so they let him like wrestle and announce yeah and then they ended up just booting him off of everything.

But he was like a skinny redhead guy. Didn't look like a wrestler. Jim Neidhart would look abusive if he beat that guy up. Be super fucking weird to watch Jim Neidhart beat the shit out of that guy. So he did a bunch of tours with New Japan at that point because he's in Japan. He looks like a big, scary American. That's exactly what they want in Japan is a bad guy. Jim Neidhart.

And he's got a name, too. He's famous, actually. He teamed with Tom Zank over there. His eyes are too close together. Weird looking guy, Tom Zank. He's a very strange guy here. Then he goes over to WCW and teams with the Junkyard Dog and makes kind of a beer-bellied tag team of kind of guys who are beyond

their prime here uh they beat paul orndorff and dick slater actually one night which is another two guys who are past their prime and dick slater will get his own episode this year probably great also he's a fucking disaster uh so uh yeah he ends up uh back he's at the uh to Remember ECW show in late 93, where he fights the Sandman and then goes back to the WWF again in 94 here. Also, there's a reason why he probably went back to the WWF. In August of 1994, he files for Chapter 13 bankruptcy. Oh, no. So that's a problem. So I feel like he filed for bankruptcy and Stu got on the phone with Vince and said,

Hey, can you get my son-in-law a job here? He's got no money and he's bankrupt. So yeah, he ends up going back to King of the Ring in 94. And there's a big fucking stupid match with Shawn Michaels team. And he had these guys in masks. It's the stupidest fucking thing ever. And then Brett had his whole family out there, like his brothers who don't wrestle in the wwf it was there they were on his team in the survivor series not looking like wrestlers it was weird

his whole family was in the front row very fucking weird uh yeah very weird here uh uh now uh owen ends up going on to tag with yokozuna at that point and then with british bulldog later on november 1995 he files for bankruptcy again so he got himself out and then he's back in again oh no it's like every time he gets fired from a major promotion he has to go bankrupt yeah he's he's living on on the edge there uh he comes back in 96 to wwf as the who or as who which is a stupidest gimmick in the history of the world sounds it they put him in a mask a dumb mask and a dumb outfit and uh basically it's so vince mcmahon and jerry lawler can make who's on first jokes who who's a who what but that it's because they thought the whole thing vince thought it was

funny to have a guy named Who. And literally, Stu Hart had asked to give Jim a job and so he was like, all right, well, we'll give him this stupid thing here. And that was it.

That was the gimmick. You're not going to believe it. We get to do the Who jokes. And his name was Who and nobody knew who he was. But it was obviously Jim the Anvil Nightheart because no one else

looks and walks and moves like him. He just does that. He's got a goatee hanging out the bottom of the mat. And that too. It's got a hole like a like the girl's softball hats with the ponytails and it's got a goatee sticking down so uh 1996 he's arrested in leon county florida

and i cannot for the life of me find exactly what it's for it's for a third degree felony oh that's all i know it's a third degree felony but i can't find the k like i have the case number and i could it just couldn't fucking find it no so i'm very pissed off about that okay uh but it's a third degree felony of something and it's a big deal it's a big deal uh at this point too he does a bunch of indies a bunch of indie shows wrestles indie shows in new york uh fights Tatanka. These Indy shows. Out of his prime, Tatanka. King Kong Bundy's on these shows.

Marty Jannetty. After he's been booted, fired. The only guy to be fired more than Jim the Anvil Neidhart is Marty Jannetty. Who will also have his own episode. This is like going to see Vanilla and and uh uh salt and pepper yeah today and like the fucking yeah it is it's exactly you're going uh they're treating it like a real gig and you're standing in the audience going isn't this fucking hysterical weird this is crazy right is that sir mix a lot what's happening is that sir sir there. Wow, I didn't know you guys still... Tom Loke, too. Get out of here.

God damn. That's fucking awesome. So he comes back again to the WWF. So he's been fired in 96, comes back in 97, in April of 97. This is when he comes back and actually has a pretty good run here. 97 is right before the... November of 97 is the Survivor Series with the Montreal Screwjob, they we've talked about it, where they screw over Brett and steal the title from him and do all that shit. And, you know, don't do the whole plan.

But it's led up to up to that with a really good feud with basically Canada versus the US. Oh, yeah. And it's the Newhart Foundation, which is Brett and Owen and Jim and the British Bulldog and Brian Pillman. And they're all Canadians. which is Brett and Owen and Jim and the British Bulldog and Brian Pillman. And they're all Canadians. And I don't think Pillman's Canadian, but he's from Key Train in Calgary. He is now. He's one of them.

And then that would be against Steve Austin's stable. And they had that sort of thing. And they had big fights there. They had In Your House 16 with Canadian Stampede was in Calgary. It was a big deal. Sold out show in Calgary. The whole family Calgary. It was a big deal. Sold out show in Calgary. You know, the whole family was there. It was a big heart fucking deal. It was Stone Cold and Ken Shamrock and Gold Dust and the Legion of Doom Road Warriors

versus the Canadian faction there in that one. So that led up to that was a pretty good feud with that whole thing. Jim ends up after Bretttt leaves after the montreal screw job jim ends up staying there because he's on he said he wasn't even under contract he was just on a handshake deal getting paid money great so basically vince was giving him a paycheck so he was going to stay and brett understood too he said you know he got kids to support and then brett ended up getting him in wcw when he moved there uh anyway uh he goes to wcw and uh basically nobody gives a shit he's he's well past his fucking prime man uh he

returned there january of 98 he had the he was a team with the british bulldog for a little while you know it was it wasn't any big deal uh but he said it was the greatest fucking time of his life, working-wise, because WCW just threw money down the toilet. Beautiful. They would hire everybody, even if they weren't using them. So, like, Randy Macho Man Savage's brother, Leapin' Lanny Poffo, was signed for... Did I just learn something? You didn't know they were related? No.

Yeah, Leapin' Lanny's his brother. Okay. Randy Poffo's his real name. Makes sense. Yeah, his dad's Angelo Poffo they gave leap and lenny poffo he was signed for four years making over a hundred thousand dollars a year and never had a match oh my god i want that deal they were throwing money down the toilet so jim said at this point brett got him a deal so he got a contract he comes in he's making over a hundred thousand dollars a year yeah and they hardly ever used him oh he said it was fucking great. He goes, I'd show up, I'd put my fucking gear on,

and I'd sit in the locker room, and they'd be like, yeah, yeah, we're going to have nothing for you tonight. And he's like, this is amazing. I still get a paycheck? This is a guy who, you know, 91 straight days on the road. He's like, I'm just sitting in the locker room drinking beers and getting paid for it. It's fucking great.

And no money is coming out of this, going back to Vince for fucking lawyers. Terrific. So, yeah, he was thrilled with this arrangement with WCW for a while. Only problem is they did rarely utilize him. And it was pretty much like he was retired is what it looked like. September 8th, 1998, he is arrested for writing bad checks in Pensacola, Florida. I thought he had money. That's the thing.

This is fucking interesting police uh they pull up to a parked car at 4 a.m and they see jim passed out behind the wheel which is never good uh the police ran his license plate they discovered that he had a warrant for his arrest for kiting bad checks uh so he uh had written a bad joke 200 bad check a couple years before he's arrested and post bond later on and on and comes out, ends up whatever there. So he leaves WCW in September of that year, kind of right after the arrest. Two weeks later is his last outing. And this is kind of where we're going to not talk about British Bulldog anymore because he's dead soon.

So I have to bring up a couple British Bulldog items. Okay. British Bulldog and Bret Hart fought at SummerSlam 92. Okay. During this time, I guess, Dave, British Bulldog wasn't wrestling all summer. Like I said, this is, you know, Bret's brother-in-law. They're all related here. So

Bret was trying to get a hold of him all summer to work a match out and British Bulldog was never around. And then finally, there's just shows in England. So they're flying over to England. Brett runs into Jim and he says, have you seen fucking Davey? And Jim goes, yeah, I just dropped him and Diana off at the airport. Yeah, he's real fucked up, though, on that flight. He's like, what do you mean he's real fucked up?

He's like, well, he's been smoking crack all night, like all fucking night for days. So he's real fucked up. And Brett's like, how do you know that? He's he's like well he's been smoking crack all night like all fucking night for days so he's real fucked up and brett's like how do you know that he's like oh i've been smoking crack with him for days that's why i'm just fucking smoking tons of crack uh apparently yeah jim was like he's got a real problem yeah and dave you know brett's like i you were with him dummy if he's got a problem so do you stupid uh apparently jimmy jim and david davy were fucking crack buddies they smoked tons of crack together that was their thing uh this happened all the time they were both real fucked up on drugs a lot davy's infamous for it obviously and jim was right there with him was kind of his partner in crime uh jim also uh there's some weird stories about back in the day, like Davy, Diana Hart's book, who was Brett's sister and Davy's wife.

She wrote this scathing book. It's fucking ripping everybody apart, including her brother and everybody else. She says that her and Davy would go down to Jim's house in Florida and she'd hear uh jim yelling at his wife who was bay and the sister when are you getting your fucking family out of here i don't want people at my house and all this shit they thought he was kind of nuts um that was an issue uh also okay diana claims in her book and this is a pretty big claim she claims that davy boy smith the british bulldog used to give her ghb at night, slip it in her drink at night so she'd pass out

and then her claim was that he would rape her in her sleep. And they were married? They were married, but he wanted to fuck her. He wanted the ass, basically. He wanted to fuck her how he wanted to fuck her. Well, he wanted to fuck her in the ass is the bottom line of the whole thing and she didn't want that.

So he cosme'd her. So he would do to her and she this in the book she talks about you know waking up and not understanding what she felt and all this shit and it's horrible so she ends up bringing it up to her sister ellie and says it's so weird like i i go to sleep and like you know i'll like pass out i don't even remember falling asleep and like, you know, I'll like pass out. I don't even remember falling asleep. And then like, you know, I'll wake up and literally my ass will hurt. Like I'm fucking sore and I don't understand it laughing because it's uncomfortable. But it's the old joke. It's the old I don't drink tequila anymore because it makes my ass hole. That's the thing.

Yeah, it's one of those. It's such a ridiculous thing. But so Ellie was like, yeah, Davey's drugging you. Yeah. Jim used to do that to me all the time she said that jim would tell her and we don't know how true this is right away this is alleged this is from diana hart's book but she said that ellie told her that jim would give her ghb at night because she said it would a hell she didn't sleep well and it would help her sleep which

obviously it does and back then remember the chris adams episode the bodybuilders were all taking this at night right because it burned fat at night it was supposed to help you lose weight so jim was giving it to her as a sleep aid and a weight loss thing and then jim would have his way with her wow and uh that's what she said so she was like yeah jim used to do that to me all the time. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's ridiculous. That's yeah, it's pretty fucking crazy. So the British Bulldog likely learned it from Jim. Probably. Probably.

Well, they're all famous in the 80s. The wrestlers were famous for drugging people. That was a big thing they used to do. They used to slip Halcyon in women's drinks and bars and fucking you know do horrible things to them you can find a ton of shoot interviews where guys are saying shit like 10 years ago where they're telling these stories that are like haha funny haha quote-unquote funny fucking stories i guess in podcast land you need to see my air quotes to know i was being sarcastic super illegal things super illegal things that if they said them now yeah they would be ostracized from society

immediately rightfully fucking so but uh then they were considered like oh that was crazy times you know it's like they would give them the the rockers used to give uh women they drug women and then take them in and do whatever and they'd shave their heads and fucking draw on them with magic marker and then dump them out in the hallway naked wow so they'd wake up with no hair and naked in the hallway with the cock drawn on their cheek just because they they thought a wrestler was cute and so the wrestler drugged them that's the type of shit these some of these guys used to do back then hilarious yeah not a it's very much the rock you know yeah and i'm sure more than one or two comedians did that in the 80s too so uh he starts working indies after this uh i just saw i just saw uh the the guy from home improvement doing that to people oh god tim allen doing it well he'd be

the opposite because he had cocaine so he would they'd be all awake from tim allen hyper aware so uh uh he's on the october 99 heroes of wrestling show which is known as like one of the worst shows in the history of the world yeah there's a bunch of like old guys that were out of shape giving bad matches and uh he fights jake the snake roberts at that and that one which is a pretty ugly match yeah not good at all uh he continues to fight he fights the uh it's it's knight harding king kong bundy versus jake roberts and yokzuna, who weighed like 700 pounds at that point. No shit. Yeah, he's fighting in all these.

He fights for, they reconstitute Stampede. Bruce Hart brings Stampede back because Vince never paid it off fully to Stu, so they still retain rights to the name and shit like that. Yeah, he's wrestling in a bunch of different ones. MCW, which was down in Marylandaryland he fights the blue meanie the blue meanie was an ecw wrestler who started his own promotion down there and uh yeah he's fighting just around in all these little indies uh no nothing's you know fighting to tonka again uh three-way here uh fights jimmy snooker and tony atlas here so that's a wow at a show in uh 1999 so uh 2001 uh jim and ellie get a divorce okay uh so they get a divorce she's had quite a bit of enough yeah she's had a bit of an asshole uh they file for divorce she's had an ass full well that would be diana she's had something full so uh 2005 uh they him

and ellie are sued uh by a calgary businessman who alleges that they stole nine thousand dollars worth of jewelry and pawned it the lawsuit ends up being dropped a few months later uh jim tells the newspaper that it was quote a misunderstanding between good friends he and his wife and the businessman's wife pawned the jewelry to buy a car engine with the intent of buying the items back later uh he told the paper quote i'm not the pink panther a thief and a liar all right so he's being very very very clever he's adorable he's very very cute here the pink the pink panther good lord so yeah all through 2000 all through there to 2003 he's just He's adorable. He's very, very cute. I'm not the Pink Panther. The Pink Panther. Good Lord.

So, yeah, all through 2000, all through there to 2003, he's fighting in all these fucking, all these little weird indie ones where he'll fight, you know, every month it's a different promotion. He's fighting fucking Hacksaw Jim Duggan and the Honky Tonk Man and shit. Like, in 2003, it's the Honky Tonk Man and Hacksaw Jim Duggan fight Jim Neidhart and some guy I never heard of. They're cramming as many old guys in there as they can. 2006 and 2007, he does

the same thing. December 10th, 2007 is his big day, though. It's the Raw WWE 15th anniversary of Raw, the show Raw, and he returns for the first time since 1997 so 10 years he participates in the 15th anniversary of battle royal and uh is eliminated by skinner who is a terrible character with like tobacco juice all over his shirt played by i want to

say steve kern weird he played like a like an everglades fucking guy it was weird a hillbilly uh yeah but like a everglades hillbilly yeah a glade billy yeah one of those glades billy uh 2008 he's in rehab and this happens a few times uh this is uh this is he got twice in this period he goes to rehab both both times paid for by wwe because in 2006 they started the wellness program which uh based on eddie guerrero dying from a drug overdose they said they put out a thing saying any current or former uh wrestlers if you've ever worked for us we'll pay for your rehab basically so it's cheaper than the bad pr and based on tamil and it's clearly working it It works wonders, obviously.

Yeah, it's not great. Now, his daughter here, Natalia, said, quote, I can only speak as a daughter who loves her father. I was fortunate enough to have the WWE there to save his life. We were one of the lucky ones. That's also when she was working there. She's working there, so she's pretty she's happy she's pretty uh uh positive about the the wwe's role in the whole thing now uh he also makes appearances on the wwe reality show total divas because she's on it so he ends up being on it and kind of puts him back in the uh

main spotlight because uh her she's like a main member you gotta talk about the roots so you gotta talk about that and she's a second generation and he's an old star and you know you might get a few older people watching the show who know who he is even if they don't know who she is uh so he goes around all through this point more kind of indies he does a couple shots in tna which is the other terrible wrestling that's not great uh they have him beat j lethal in a minute and 30 seconds i don't know why you'd bring an old man out to beat some it's weird but they haven't beat this j lethal guy in a minute and 30 seconds uh more more indie shit uh they have uh he teams with greg the hammer valentine a couple times uh who looks like somebody's stepmom by now yeah he looked like somebody's

stepmom in his peak in 1985 yeah he looked like your stepmom that your dad met at the bowling alley. And she can hold her beer, and she smokes about two and a half packs of cigarettes a day. An hour. And she's got like a 220 average, too, in the lane. She's great. She's pretty good. And boy, can she put down pretzel sticks. Oh, like nobody's business.

Nobody's business. But she'd give you a ride if you need it. She's a nice stepmom. As a matter of fact, that's how I met her. She she's good to have she pushed it down like a dinosaur eating an egg jesus christ uh he teams with the honky tonk man a little bit in 2008 for a couple of shots so it's like once a month he's doing indie shows a couple times a month depending uh march of 2009 he's arrested uh for speeding and having no driver's license on a motorcycle. What are you doing? So you gotta have a license for that

and he's been driving motorcycles as we know since he started for 10 years he has no license. Since he sued US Airways. Yeah he's been fucking driving a Ninja so yeah he's in 2009 later on later on in the year he's again arrested

in Hillsborough uh also for no motorcycle license and speeding so he got arrested once for it was like i'll keep speed with no license i don't fucking need to do anything like that so at this point now now they keep him in jail for a minute because they're like hey dummy yeah fucking you can't keep doing this shit you can't do the same thing over and over and over again what the fuck are you gonna do and uh he doesn't know what to do and they they do let him out eventually because i mean it's not a violent crime or anything so they let him out only thing is though they confiscated they impounded his bike and shit and his family was starting to do a thing with him where they weren't helping him anymore where they were like doing a tough love thing

where they were like if he's in jail they're not going to bail him out shit like that like maybe this will teach him a lesson or they honestly used to say well if even if he's in there a week maybe he'll sober him up a little bit yeah even for a week that's better than can't get it in there can't get it you know it's harder and especially in a county jail it's and you're just new there you're not going to really know the ropes enough to be scoring probably uh so yeah he uh he ends up they make him from it's hillsborough county the the police station they end up making him walk home oh gee so imagine this like a little kid who's like he's he's walking home and the fucked up part is he's got to go through all these and he's he's obviously who he is yeah you know what i mean like you can see yeah see him

from space yeah that fucking goatee in the flat top so and he still looks like that so he's walking through neighborhoods and people are shouting at him and hey it's jim the anvil neidhart there and he walks through this one neighborhood and it's a bad neighborhood too but i don't think he's afraid and he he's walking by oblivious to what he's doing and he hears a voice from a stoop come by and it's estevez jones mma fighter and 70s blaxploitation film star and he says motherfucker how is it you come to arrive here now what the fuck is wrong with your ass you motherfucker i seen you on tv not seen you on the tv i seen you whooping whooping people's asses even black dudes with hard ass heads man you'd be whooping their

asses and i'm like man how you be doing that shit our heads harder than that what the fuck no but you'd be doing that shit i'm like all right he all right and you're going you fucking up you beating up stewardesses and shit they acquit you i know you did that shit motherfucker who you think you bullshitting who you estivez jones motherfucker hold hold on hold on estevez i want a piece of this guy jim he's mine it's my week no it's not this is my week i'm responsible for him jim jim how is it you've come to arrive here jim jesus christ pal i gave you every damn chance in the world and you put your shirt back on don't take it off i know i normally will put it back on you're not wrestling for me anymore put your shirt back on you're a goddamn disgrace

pink pink box wear the pink jim take your shirt off and get out. Get out there, Jim. I don't care about the drug. Get out there and kick some ass, Jim. Get out there and rumble. Rumble, Jim. Rumble. Sell tickets, Jim. Poof, and they both disappear in a poof of leopard skin and sold tickets. I don't know. Fucking bow.

And yeah, so 2010, he remarries Ellie. Yeah. Which is. They're back in love. I guess they're back in love again now. She never really left him, though. They were always together. They got sued together.

She was giving him a hard time, a hard love. I think so. Yeah. He was breaking his balls a little. You know, it goes. That's the hardest love ever. Yeah. Divorce him.

Teach you a lesson now. I filed paperwork to teach your ass a lesson. See, I like that. That's harder than leaving him in the clank. I would say so. None of that shit's's true they didn't make him walk home or any of that i just know i just needed him to patch cross paths as estevez jones and i didn't know that would be terrific if they really did no and he's wandering around i'm sure he got a ride people screaming is that you do you have some shit i need shit boone County mating call. Shake. Fuck.

So September 6, 2010. This is in Thona Tosasa, Florida. Hell yeah. What the fuck is that? It sounds like there's alligators everywhere. It's named after somebody's grandma and grandpa. I'm sure it is. We're going over to Thona Tosasa's house.

Doc, Thona Tosasa. What the hell's a goddamn shit name? So this is shortly before 3 p.m. It's about 2.55 local time. He's pumping gas. There's like a food mart gas station. And they say, quote, when he began yelling and causing a disturbance for some reason. This is the middle of the afternoon at a gas station. Police were called.

And when they get there, they find him in his silver pontiac sunfire oh no which is not a good car oh it's the casey anthony car it's a bad car and especially for a big giant guy to fucking wedge himself into a pontiac sunfire it's so little that's every mile you go you're reminded of how you failed in life, of how things are not going how you wanted them to go. Oh, what a shit car. If you're driving that car and you're him. It's the today version of the Fiero.

I was going to say it's like the Dodge Neon of today. It's like a shit like fucking one of those. The Fiero's made by the same fucking company. What a piece of shit. Yeah, like a geo something. Yeah, geo metro. Geo metro. Ge of shit geo something yeah little shitty trackers so he's in the pontiac sunfire not in the driver's seat mind you not in the passenger seat where is he then backseat yeah no trunk he's in the trunk pumping gas in the trunk he's in the trunk at the gas station but he's in the trunk and he's seen by police officers opening pill bottles in the trunk? He's in the trunk at the gas station. He's in the trunk, and he's seen by police officers opening pill bottles in the trunk of his car.

He's got multiple pill bottles, and he's opening them and looking through them, and he's dropping pills all over himself. He's just tearing through a bunch of pills. This is the most Florida scene you've ever painted. This is Florida. Holy shit. Like I said, this is next to the meth alligator on the flag. This is the same exact thing. When the cops arrived, because he's in Florida, obviously they described him as, quote, agitated and aggressive.

So they said that during the time they were trying to get him out of the trunk and apprehend him, he was ingesting multiple pills that he dropped on the ground while inside the trunk of his vehicle wow so he got out and there was a bunch of pills there and he was just they were wrestling with him he's just grabbing pills and stuffing them in his face wow so just like um these i need yeah so yeah uh so that's what they said that's the quote uh ingesting multiple pills he dropped on the ground while inside the trunk of the vehicle. That's the arrest report. The pill bottles that they find have 95 Oxycontin pills, 95 and 28 methadone pills. So this is opiate shit, man. This is some hardcore.

Methadone is fucking. That's using the heroin and the anti-heroin at the same fucking time. Well, you use the methadone and then you chip with heroin because the methadone doesn't give you quite the same rush. It gives you the same overview from what I feel, from what I hear, but doesn't give you that pop. Right. So you chip with shit in between.

That's too much. And that's how people OD like that because they're just too much. And a lot of times, too, they've been doing methadone, so they think their tolerance is higher than it is, and they do what they usually do, and then they OD. And a lot of times, too, they've been doing methadone, so they think their tolerance is higher than it is. And they do what they usually do, and then they OD. And it's night-night. Because that's a tolerance thing with heroin. So, yeah, the pills, it gets worse.

These aren't his pills. The pills were prescribed. They're in a prescription bottle. To Casey Anthony. To Casey Anthony in Florida. Anthony in Florida. Another prescribed to a Mary Cotillo, who is a friend of Jim's, who had reported that they had been stolen when her house was broken into. He's breaking.

He's Ryan Leaf. He's Ryan Leaf. Wow. But with friends. Ryan Leaf did it to strangers. That's right. This is friends. He makes a court appearance where his bond was set at $138,500.

That's specific. That is very excessive. That's a lot. You get out, I mean, fucking, you could kill someone and get less bail than that. That's crazy. But he's charged with two counts of possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute,

because that's a shitload of pills, two counts of trafficking in illegal drugs. So he's got serious charges, one count of burglary of an unoccupied dwelling and one count of grand theft third degree. Yeah. Those are bad charges. That's yuck.

They got him. I mean, I don't think he was going to traffic them. He was probably going to... That's personal use. They were going to be ingested by Friday, probably, I would assume. This is just Friday night, guys. I don't know what you're talking about.

Those were gone before gas is pumped if they don't interrupt him absolutely so i saw some post here somebody and we don't know if this is true or not but this is from an independent film set oh a movie called booted uh came out in 2011 it uh it has cameron from ferris bueller in it oh no his friend yeah it's very sad uh apparently uh this was an indie film here and this one of the crew guys said that uh jimny anvil they were filming in florida and jimny anvil popped up was hanging around the set one day and you know people knew who he was like oh cool jimny anvil and uh they said that uh he was going around the set asking if anybody had any percocets

so hard about you hollywood types yeah you've got the perks got perks here and like they were like huh we're making a fucking indie movie what are you talking about uh yeah so this whole situation he's not in the movie no he's not no i looked i scoured imdb before he's not in the movie he was just hanging out on set because they were filming near his house or something it was incredible so ross hart who's one of his brother-in-laws said quote about the arrest, from what I understand, he was agitated and not very happy

to be handcuffed and taken away. Now, Jenny, who is the oldest daughter, said that her father needs help. She said, quote, it's sad because we know our father is not a criminal.

He's a sick person who needs help and this is a serious cry for help. She says, this is something that's very out of character for him. He's always had issues with drugs but it's only affected him personally and his family yeah you're smoking

crack that's gonna affect your family his three daughters love him dearly and we don't want him to be another statistic fair enough uh jim ross the longtime announcer and overall you know has all the barbecue restaurants and everything he said he posted about this kind of kind of uh kind of a uh like a like kind of for the company like a proxy company statement he says quote the recent arrest of jim the anvil night hard came as a surprise the 55 year old night hard was arrested in tampa for alleged possession and conspiracy to distribute pain meds as i understand it not to mention alleged burglary of said items. It sounds to me that Jim may well have an obvious drug issue

that needs addressing in the form of a long-term stay in a rehabilitation center. If my assumption is accurate, then 30 days likely won't do the trick. But be that as it may, one thing for sure is that a recovery always starts with the individual truly wanting to stay and be clean and sober. I can't see Jim being a burglar, but I can see him having a drug and alcohol issue that may have manifested themselves to the point that Jim needs to seek help. And more importantly, truly wants to stay clean and sober. This was 2010, and this looked terrible for Linda McMahon, Vince's wife, who was running for the Senate in 2010. Oh, Jesus, that's right.

So they were always talking about, you know, you basically, you're a silver-haired, middle-aged white man for all these fucking wrestlers. And she said, no, I'm not. And then this guy's fucking doing this. It's like, never mind. Jesus Christ. If there's anything he is, it is a timing extraordinaire.

He finds timing perfectly. Wait till you see the end of this episode, how amazing his timing is holy shit here uh so he keeps 2010 he's doing more indies he's fighting fucking uh uh bill ed at one point he's demolition axe the mass superstar who's got to be in his 60s at this point he's fighting him he's so old uh so yeah he's fighting uh it's it's a bunch of shit indies i'm not even going to get into all these indies. April of 2011, he's arrested in Tampa, Florida.

Yeah. Let's get into that. This is great. Yeah. He's arrested for driving without a license and for operating an unregistered vehicle. It's not even registered. No, just driving a car with no. Put it out there.

No tags. There's a car. I start it. And then if I hit the gas, the wheels turn. So what do I need? Perfect. Who else do I need to talk to about this fuck it who needs to know who needs to know i know how to drive what's the deal uh so he's released after paying a 750 bond he says he wasn't arrested though when they talked to him the press talks to him he says that he realized he missed a traffic date on charges of driving without a license and operating an

unregistered vehicle and he turned himself into the sheriff's office saying hey i missed my court date and you know they they had him pay a 750 bond and release him he said he was not incarcerated or ever taken into police custody okay so he's very concerned about his reputation this guy very concerned uh so november 2011 he's so concerned he's arrested for driving a motorcycle without a license again a fucking game jim come on jim jesus christ buddy put your shirt on you know the rules by now jim fuck well he knows the rules but he doesn't follow him you'd think by now one thing he would know are rules of courtrooms yeah and and etiquette and shit like that well in 2012 he's arrested at the hillsborough county court in florida for contempt of court he was at a hearing for his previous uh the motor controlled substance thing oh jesus and he had a

huge outburst and was taken into custody and held in contempt of court on it and then uh he ends up still being incarcerated they set no bail uh judge ends up sentencing him to five months and 29 days in jail over this a long time so yeah he does about three and a half months out of six months in jail for the whole for the pills trafficking and but he's still got two other cases lumen he's still got other shit hanging over him it's crazy i mean if you're his family you gotta be like dude we're tired it's just every day with you you know you're in your 60s how are you not tired fuck i've got to be fucking exhausted it's impossible to but i almost feel bad for vince mcmahon like that's how fucking that's how much he's fucked up i don't though at all because he's a piece of shit but

uh it's it's goddamn insane like i i feel bad for all these people jimmy all of them but not nearly as bad as i feel for jim neidhart a staff pharmacist at oh in orlando florida he lives in florida this poor guy and deals with pills good lord that one is the second worst one yeah there's one that's worse uh jim neidhart software manager at 5MELLC in Cincinnati, Ohio. Jim Neidhardt, president and CEO at the Neidhardt Company in Norfolk, Virginia. They do financial services and insurance things. People are going to... How do you have any...

Whoa. Fuck this guy. How many pills did he have? No, I'm not giving him my money. Finally, Jim Neidhart, associate professor of physics at the New Jersey Institute of Technology. The exact opposite of this guy. His professional interests include quantum physics, systems theory, and the integration

of scientific, philosophical, and religious perspectives, all being formed of personal knowledge, as ably pointed out by the scientist philosopher Michael Polanyi. That's his fucking bio. Does it say if he drives a Sunfire? He drives an 88 Sunfire. He drives an 87 Pontiac Grand Am. Does very well. And a ninja. He's a member of the American Physical Society, American Association of Physics Teachers,

a fellow of the American Scientific Affiliation, and has published 26 professional papers. My word. He wrote, at this point when I found him, The Participatory Nature of Modern Science and the Judaic Christian Theism. This is the exact opposite of our guy jim would go huh if you told him that title he'd go what was that no i don't know any of those words i think you said christian that's a word i know probably i know a guy named christian i heard of science they made me take a class once high school i failed it but they made me take these pills those that's science nope he

makes a bunch of appearances on Total Divas at that point. His daughter Natalia there is just having, he's a handful to her. Oh, sure. She says, quote, he wants to do well and I don't want to ride him so much, but I just have this extreme anxiety. I literally dream about it. It's so frustrating because my dad has no idea how many tears I've cried for him, how many sleepless nights I've had because of him, how many pits I've had in my stomach because of him. Yeah, it's heartbreaking. Heart fucking breaking.

Yeah, it's brutal. And I need heartbreaking. She said, I didn't even spend Christmas with my husband because I spent Christmas with my dad in rehab. Oh, brutal. So what does he do? He wrestles a little more in 2013. A bunch of Indies and shit like that uh august of 13 he does a an interview with a philadelphia radio station uh where he says quote

i really really really want to sign a wwe legends contract uh so uh i hope that being back on mainstream tv will help the wwe take notice they sign these older guys to legends contracts where they're they make a wrestling figure of them and they fucking uh have them do appearances for the company and all that shit and they give them a fucking salary and it's basically a way to take care of the guys you can make a couple bucks off of men you can take care of them and not have them out you know it looks bad when guys who are huge stars for you are homeless when they're 58 and getting arrested constantly yeah the same shit for the same shit it looks bad for you so this is as much for them as for you uh this is amazing though they asked him about this was at

the time when riley cooper the philadelphia eagles receiver uh had the n-word controversy there uh this this is what he's let's tune in their own words on this because it's fucking ridiculous he's got something to say they asked him about it's a philly radio station in their own words quote i cannot believe that chip kelly made such a big deal out of it he should have nipped it in the butt and just forgot about it this is a young guy drinking liquor in the afternoon and said something he didn't really mean i think chip handled that very poorly he's a first year coach he should have downplayed it and forgot about it what are you out of your fucking mind he's at a kenny chesney concert screaming the n-word talking about i'll fight all of you n-words what yeah chip kelly should have ignored the 70 of his team wore black and truck and just said it's fine guys don't worry

about it he was drunk at a kenny chney show. What do you expect him to do? Come on, it's Kenny Chesney. You have to say that to get in the door. It comes with a ticket. It says, must say N-word at the door. That's part of the gig. Wear cowboy boots and a hat and scream the N-word. That's the game.

That's how it goes. August of 2013, he does an interview. The Marlins, the Florida Marlins, have a bunch of wrestlers at the game. A bunch of wrestlers and he's doing like they're doing there's a bunch of all the press they're doing interviews with this one and that one they're in the neighborhood they're in the neighborhood there's a video of somebody interviewing uh brett and jim because brett's there and it's you know they're the heart foundation and they're both in marlins jerseys and brett is typical brett brett is stone sober

in every interview i've ever seen him in he's the most like just very sober very like blah blah blah or he handles it very straightforward i'm sure after hours but he's like uh he knows when to get fucked up basically so he's in there just having a normal conversation he's his typical boring self and blah blah blah and jim the whole time is next to him sweating, pouring sweat, twitching. His whole face is twitching. He's rubbing his hands on his face. He's like rubbing his head. He's a crackhead.

Like a fucking crackhead. He just did so much of something. And they talk to him and he like leans in and says shit real weird. And then he like twitches a whole bunch. Oh, my God. It's not on purpose. No, he's trying to control. You can see him trying to control it.

He's like, Jim, you look like a crackhead. Stop it. Every time he talks, Brett like looks at him and you can see the look on his face like, oh, shit. Like, fuck me. Don't ask him any more fucking questions. Jesus Christ. He's like Kanye. Kanye and Mike Myers on that.

Yeah. Dude, it's so fucking bad. And it's like it gets uncomfortable. Put it that way, dude. It gets real uncomfortable. And this video comes out super public, too. Really? Becomes a real big deal.

This is when his daughter starts talking about him a lot publicly, trying to get him to get help. And obviously, he's got a problem. I can't wait to watch it. Yeah, you'll see it. It's a mess here here he also wrestles a little bit he's wrestles in 2016 may of 2016 uh frankie the pizza guy jim neidhardt and somehow wrestling still coco beware remember him with the bird in the bad outfit with owen hart Still around. They fought some other guys. Two guys I've never heard of, and Nikolai Volkov. Okay, how the fuck is Nikolai Volkov still? Nikolai Volkov was an old man in the 80s.

He was like, his peak was the 70s. How the fuck was he wrestling in 2016? Wow. It's at this point that it is announced and then taken off social media. One of the daughters announces it and then takes it off. But it's starting to be spread throughout that everybody knows that Jim has Alzheimer's at this point. He's starting to slip a little bit mentally.

And I listened to an interview with him that he did in 2016. And it's one of his – and it's Chris Jericho's podcast. He did it and he he knows stuff but he's got his son-in-law there with him and his son-in-law will fill in a big like he'll start telling the story and then his son-in-law

will fill in like a bunch of details and then Jim will be like yeah so then we went from here to here but his son-in-law will fill in like yeah yeah because then this one did that and he blah blah blah no I mean jim is still cool on it because i mean the you're too high you're too high yeah like he still has memories and shit like he's not like i don't know anything about that you wouldn't know it you could tell they sent the son-in-law with him to make sure that he didn't yeah space out sure some shit

because he messed up a couple of things that were like uh he messed up like that might just be you know it's 30 years ago but he messed up a couple things that were not and nobody corrected him and it was shit that you would know yeah like they asked when you won the title from the british bulldogs he brought up the rope breaking and that's when they lost the title to the rockers that didn't happen so and it was like five years later but nobody corrected him on or three years later no one corrected him on everybody just looked at each other was like are we gonna go with this they're just like let's just his son or son-in-law just started saying like uh yeah from the british bulldogs they want it and just kind of ignored it and went on from there that's too bad it was really sad it was it's fucking sad

uh now august 13th 2018 uh neidhart and his wife are at uh natty's house there natalie they call her natty at uh it's uh it's 6 30 in the morning uh jim apparently gets up to adjust the thermostat because it's florida and it's disgusting it's august he gets up to adjust a thermostat and his wife said he made a twitch twitched a couple times like he was like made a weird thing like she said he was about looked like he was about to start dancing and then uh he apparently had a seizure and collapsed uh he'd been taking seizure medication and been having a lot of seizures lately uh they i guess uh medically it's something to do with the alzheimer's it affects electrons or some shit so you have seizures look like he was about to dance and then did the worm and then yeah well he did the fall and smash his head on the wall yeah and split it open oh no uh yeah uh so uh

his wife calls 9-1-1 uh they said that he's not breathing at the moment uh she's unable to help him the uh 9-1-1 gets there and uh uh yeah her she said he had difficulty sleeping he fell uh hit his head he had a four inch gash on his face from falling and uh uh he ends up being pronounced dead right there right there well later at the hospital but he's pretty much dead on the floor he wasn't breathing god he wasn't breathing the death is due to a grand mal seizure and he hit his head and uh yeah they said that it's abnormal electrical activity throughout the brain related to alzheimer's and it's been causing him a lot of seizures lately had a seizure uh the tech the pasco sheriff's office said that there's no foul play suspected

and apart from the fact that he fell and hit his head uh no you know he had no other injuries or anything like that he wasn't horrible uh when died, the family asked in lieu of flowers or donations that you give donations to the Women's Alzheimer's Movement in Los Angeles, California, which is the womensalzheimersmovement.org. And it's never a bad thing to give to Alzheimer's research because that should fucking scare the shit out of every single one of you people out there because it scares the shit out of me. And I don't want to be crazy or I don't want to not know where i am that happened my grandmother and the one that died and she was a fucking mess and it sounds terrible when i wake up in the morning and i'm like out of it and i've got to run i've got to get out of the house now and i'm trying to grab things and trying to remember where i put everything all the time and that is a third of it like nothing that's nothing physical's nothing. And there's physical manifestations, too.

And it's the worst fucking way to go. I can't even imagine. It crushes everybody around you because they have to watch you deteriorate. That's one thing. At least he was to the point where he was still, he wasn't like, I don't know where I am and wandering off in the middle of the night or anything. He was still with it enough to where nobody really had to watch him. He didn't have to suffer all the way through it. But that's brutal.

He's 63 years old. Dead at 63. I don't want that one. No. So finally, so he died in August. Early this year, after I put it on the schedule

to do Jim the Anvil Neidhart on this date, they decide that they're going to induct the Hart Foundation into the WWE Hall of Fame. The whole damn thing. Well, it's Brett and Jim. And Brett's already in this individually, so he's getting in on his own. He's only the second guy to get in twice. How about that? Ric Flair also is four horsemen and by himself.

That's great. And he's Hart Foundation and by himself. So this week, this sunday is wrestlemania and then before i think it's the day before that they have the big induction ceremony into the hall of fame so i did not know a that that this would fall on wrestlemania weekend nor did i know that he was going to be in the wrestling uh they were going to put him in the hall of fame so this is we have timing as good as his sometimes i swear to christ so uh yeah dumb luck but that's him and he'll be he'll be inducted then so if you like jim nighthart

tune into that and you can you can check that out and uh yeah so we weren't trying to we weren't trying to do that on purpose is what i wanted to say that was the dumbest stupidest luck ever can't get enough of jim the anvil nighthart i fucking can't uh tons of Jim the Anvil, Neidhard? I fucking can't. I miss him. Tons of autographs all over online. There's a million autographs out there. Also, Amazon has, the WWE came out with the newer figures now. They're pretty fucking cool.

They have one with him with, you know, it's got the tag belt, and he's in a pink outfit. It's a fucking awesome looking figure. It's 15 bucks with 474 shipping from that. That's a bargain. And then they go from there.

Also, go find the goddamn LGN, the LJN rubber figure from the 80s, the good big rubber figure. That was an awesome one. Jim Neandertal, a really good figure. Go find that one. It's on eBay, like 60, 80 bucks, something like that, because it's a rarer one.

They really got to figure out what they're going to do with these guys once they're done with them. You know what I mean? Well, now, yeah. It's weird. Because neurological shit like that, be there's gotta be a link to that it's who knows man yeah it's not helping because he played football and then he wrestled and he's been hitting the fucking head a lot a lot a lot and you that's the thing john oliver's whole show was about how you make these guys fucking employees yeah and that's the thing john oliver was saying we should do a hashtag and then he did like this kind of commercial that was sort of funny but i think

it could have been better yeah there's got to be some something that he made a point that wrestling the one thing that wwe will react to is fan pressure yeah it's the only thing they listen to because they have to that's their whole business. Without the fan, I mean, that's it. So they will cave to fan pressure. If the fans put enough pressure on them to fucking treat these guys like they should be treated, they will have to do it. They will. If every fan in every show, every TV taping, all the fucking signs are make these guys employees or whatever the fuck you want your hashtag to be. They are going to fucking do it because it's ruining their TV show. It is.

And it's making them look bad. And they don't like that. That's what it is. It's making them look bad. It's making them look bad. Anything that Vince hates, it's looking bad. He doesn't like. And that's why he goes to the doctor so much.

That's why he looks like that. And he's 112 years old and he's still fucking jacked and has abs and shit because yeah he's he hates to look he's also the devil incarnate so there's also that you know so there's a reason that yeah yeah so i but i this shit has to stop with this i mean they they tried with jim but i don't know man jim isn't really the the the i don't know if he's the poster boy for this because he didn't die of a drug overdose but he lived that lifestyle that they all look the other way on in the 80s, and that's fine and dandy and all. But this type of disease is exacerbated by that kind of behavior.

Yeah, and they cut out chair shots now, and they try to limit head injuries and shit like that, and they hire guys that aren't out there. They hire guys that are mainly kind of more corporate citizens i like to call them uh type of thing like they're they're they're kind of more clean cut right uh which means they'll get arrested less and also will not be as entertaining on television is the difference these guys were psychopath fucking circus performers they're entertaining people jim the anvil is a character yeah you he's a silhouette you could see him he's a character

none of the guys now are like that. So it's like some of them are. The Rock is a different type of being. Yeah. Exactly. They're just a different type of cat. Just a different deal. And Rock's also a third generation guy and coming from both fucking sides.

And he knew that business. Like, even when he was playing college, he knew I'm going to probably be a wrestler someday, I'm sure. And I'm going to be fucking amazing. And I'll be great at it. I'm going to be the richest one ever. And he is. Pretty fucking much. So that is jim the anvil neidhardt it's quite the goddamn tale and uh i grew up with a dude with the last name of needhart and i was i had my fingers crossed that you were gonna say his name that was like 79 was born i would have been like i fucking know

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