Crime in Sports - #162 - The Cathouse Killings - The Unsalvageableness of David Tyner

Episode Date: May 21, 2019

This week, we crawl into the life of a man who had plenty of promise. He was a state wrestling champion, and even earned a college scholarship. But it all fell apart. He tried his hand in some MMA competition, but ultimately washed out of the sport, much like college, and the Marines. What's left for a guy like that? Enforcer for a drug kingpin, of course. But when he thinks he's not being compensated like he should for his work, a plan is hatched... This plan results in some of the most graphic violence possible. This is wild one!! Be deemed too lazy for college, be deemed too crazy for the Marines, and settle your scores with a horrifically violent assault that leaves multiple people dead with David Tyner!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's pretty good. It made me a little horny. That's not bad. Well, let's get into this episode because it's a lot, man. It's a lot to unpack. And, boy, is it messy. It's a guy named david allen tyner oh probably never heard of this guy he's a very low level mma guy that's why not a lot of sports this

week but a whole shitload of crime yeah it's uh the uh it's sports and in sports it's crime and a little bit of sports lowercase sports for this week david tyner is his name david allen tyner david allen tyner just goes by david tyner or uh goes by bird more than more more likely and through his whole life that's his nickname that everybody calls him yeah we'll get into all that he gets so he gets more nicknames later too as he gets into uh further into his crime he gets nicknames get some tattooed across his chest which is always a smart move yeah if you're if you're in a meth selling gang it always a smart move. If you're in a meth-selling gang, it's a smart move to tattoo the name that you carry in this gang across your chest.

You want to do that all the time. Just let everybody know what's going on. Especially the police. That's, of course, especially the police. You want them to know exactly what you're doing. That's the point. Who you are. You don't want to hide out.

All your activities. Not under the radar at all. Don't do any of that. Don't do any Meyer Lansky shit. Right. You know, or Carlo Gambino shit where they die peacefully in their own home at 85 after making millions off organized crime. You want to put a big tattoo on your chest and end up in prison.

That's the smart thing to do. Carlo might be the coolest of all of them. That guy was a badass. Hey, man. Meyer Lansky, too. Those guys just died with so much money, and Meyer Lansky did it without even having to really...

He didn't have to get into the dirt. He was the finance guy. Was he the guy that got shot in Vegas? Fuck no. Meyer Lansky skated. Oh, that's Bugsy Siegel. You're thinking of Bugsy Siegel. That's a bad death. Meyer Lansky and Carlo Gambino both lived to be very rich old men who fucking died peacefully on their own accord. Gambino both lived to be very rich old men who fucking died peacefully

on their own accord, of their own accord. So, it's beautiful. Well, Gambino died in like a parking garage, but his heart just exploded. No, no. Carlo Gambino died, I think, while he was watching a baseball game or something. Was it? That was either him or Meyer Lansky. I think that may have been Lansky.

He died like on a Saturday afternoon. I think Carlo was walking to his car and his heart just exploded. Maybe. The man drank like 12 cups of coffee a day. Well, either way, though, he was an 80-year-old gangster year old gangster yeah i mean to make it that far it's pretty impressive that's great it's goddamn impressive shit to not get shot that's amazing i'm impressed by that i always the people that he killed yeah i think about those old gangsters sometimes and then they died when they were like 85 and i'm like that's that's amazing it's a great light they fucking made it

they made it yeah i think about those people in terms of like it like the people who you ever see like a 90 year old that chain smokes and you're like you lucky son of a bitch you fucking made it you you ignored what everybody said and you're fucking still going you outlived most of them and you're still going i'm like you bastard you outlived a bunch of doctors that told you not to do that bastard i see those people and i'm like you fucking son of a bitch you did it it. That's the same thing as dying as like a comfortable gangster of natural causes. A nine-year-old smoker

that outlives a 55-year-old vegan doctor whose heart just exploded. Yeah, who was jogging in the morning and his heart exploded. And then you get Burgess Meredith from Grumpy Old Men. He's like, I have a plate of bacon for breakfast. At lunch, I have a bacon sandwich

and I usually drink my dinner. While Shane smokes. The outtakes of that movie are my favorite. With him just finding new ways to hide a dick in a woman. Dirty old men are fantastic. Anytime you get old men that have filthy mouths and tell dirty jokes and shit, I am all over that. I grew up, that's my culture. That's the Italian culture, is dirty old men telling jokes

to their nephews hey kid let me tell you something when you're nine you're like don't tell your mother i don't know what that means but i'm gonna remember it and tell everyone at school and i'm gonna educate some motherfuckers did you get sex education in school no no at a family gathering from my uncle tony you know that's where you get it from so uh this fella here david tyner uh everyone called him bird apparently that was always his name always his nickname uh they said like people don't even know his real name where he's from really that's the thing he's from oklahoma uh he's born and raised in oklahoma we'll kind of talk about where here in a second but uh

he uh apparently like people around there they like a reporter later on goes back and and you know asks about him and they're like david tyner they go they go bird and oh yeah bird yeah i know like they don't even know the fucking guy's name that's incredible that's amazing that's it's weird when people's nicknames get so entrenched with them and it's one word he's like bird he's like the share of oklahoma he's bird like like in the wire yeah bird is there a guy there's a fucking guy named bird he's a dick and omar puts him in jail that's what omar omar testifies with the tie thing oh i've seen a bunch of memes of that when they and he's got the tie just kind of wrapped around him in court and they say what do you do for a living and he says i robs drug dealers

i robs drug dealers as clear as day and they're like okay and he's just like he just uh yeah he's lying and gets bird put away for murder just says he saw the murder because he doesn't like bird he's like fuck bird i don't care i'll testify against him so uh that's great he's a different guy though omar don't give a fuck man so he's a murderer and oh yeah and he drugs drug dealers and he'll admit it in court and he goes to court and tells everybody. He went to the police and was like, I saw him shoot him. They're like, did you? He's like, fuck yeah, I did. Yeah.

Really? Yep. Okay. You willing to testify? Shit, yeah. Hell yeah. Put me up on the stand. All right, then.

Why? Because he didn't like fucking Bird. Bird's a scumbag. It doesn't match. Well, they told him to get a tie and whatever. And he went to some store and didn't like the wear. So he just wore his shit and put a tie on around it. they told him he had to wear a tie hilarious so that was his way but you made him more believable honestly yeah that's him he's up on the stand tie wrapped around

saying i rob's drug dealers that motherfucker's telling the truth i'm sorry he's like the dude in the in the in the ray caruth trial episode one that we did van brett walken's name that guy jesus remembered his name but he was up on the stand just like yeah i motherfucking shot that pregnant ass bitch because he told me to that motherfucker told me to shoot that's why i shot that bitch did you like i kind of believe him it was like tracy morgan yeah it was it was he was acting like he was not tracy morgan but tracy jordan on 30 rock if you put him on the stand for for murder and he was just like yeah yeah, I shot that bitch. I don't give a fuck.

It was amazing. Did you say, quote, and that bitch needs to go away? I did. Yeah. You said that about Sherega? No. I said that about Ray Caruth. He's the bitch.

Ray Caruth is the bitch. And he's pointing right in his face. It was amazing. That was a great trial to watch. That was really a lot of fun. A lot of fun. He, like, drug out the Karuth. Karuth.

Karuth. The funny thing is, like, I watched that trial, and I watched, also, you watched the Staircase documentary in that trial. It's the same defense attorney, David Rudolph, who does both cases. And in both cases, he clearly presents a better case and loses because he is a Jewish guy from New York who's in North Carolina. And that's obviously all it is. Like, seriously, like, they're like, it doesn't matter what you say to us, fellow Jew man.

We ain't going to listen. She has a Southern accent, the prosecutor, and I feel like she's more in tune with our interests. Carry on, though. We'll be polite enough to let you finish and then just vote against you. Give us some more of the 11-letter words. I mean, especially the staircase. It was like he almost was like, what the fuck is Mayberry? What am I doing here?

Like, you could see it in his face. Like, are they talking about that? He had a bisexual affair. That means he's a murderer now. Like, what the fuck is happening? You could see his head almost catch fire. It's as I'm watching both these things. I'm just going, please move away to somewhere where your services will be appreciated.

Jesus Christ. Find a big city on the other side of the Delta. I swear, if I ever get in any trouble in the South, I am getting fucking Matlock to defend me. I'm getting Andy Griffith in a fucking Kentucky Fried Chicken Colonel suit. That's the only thing that will suffice. Nothing will suffice. The only thing that will. It'sice the only thing that will it's like arrested development they got the kind of andy griffith to sit at the table that's awesome so

anyway uh bird everybody knew bird uh his friends say his mother gave him the nickname because he didn't eat a lot when he was little like very little so he ate like a bird they called him bird from the time he was before he could remember toddler age that's a weak ass nickname it's a weak nickname and other people said that he liked to climb trees. And I don't know what that is. I think all kids like to climb trees. They don't climb trees. That's the other thing.

And once they're up there, they get down easier. Yeah, they don't have to bring in the fire department. That whole gravity thing doesn't fuck with them. Not really. No. Unless they're coming into my garage like we just experienced. That was the weirdest thing. Yeah,my comes over i open my garage he comes in the fucking bird flies in right before him and just we can't get him out he's just walking away from us i'm like no no this way asshole and he's just nope i'm going over here hiding amongst the christmas tree

yeah he was like my son has a little tiny christmas tree there and it's like sitting down he like went and sat behind it it's a tree it's a bird. There you go. I didn't even think of that. He was trying to climb the tree. That's what it is. Okay. I feel it. It was a baby bird, too. Yeah.

It was small, but he's fine now. So he could fly. He flew into the garage and then just walked around like a dickhead. Why do birds ever walk? I've never understood. You can fly, motherfucker. What are you doing? I fly everywhere.

You see them walking, too. They're strutting their shit back and forth i don't know what they're thinking feathers and everything i guess i guess once in a while we crawl i mean i guess but only when we're really rubbing it in though yeah i don't know why you're you'd ever walk around maybe it's exhausting to fly we don't know it could be fucking exhausting and they're like i need a break man these wings are hurting me you know take a few struts back and forth are my arms tired is that what it is that's the old joke so uh yeah either way this is bird tyner everybody knows him as uh he is uh he grows up to be a high school wrestler yeah and he's a goddamn good wrestler and everybody likes him he's like a real like uh he's a real happy happy-go-lucky outgoing full of personality kind of cat like everybody likes

him in in high school he's pretty popular he's on you know he's a he's like a star wrestler and uh yeah he has comes up pretty normal i mean there's no and it's weird because wrestling isn't one of those if you're a great high school wrestler it's not like if you're a great high school football player. Right. If you're a great high school football player, everybody sucks your dick from the time you're nine. And that's it. Baseball, basketball. And what era did he grow up?

In Oklahoma. Okay. So, I mean, which high school wrestling is huge there? 80s. Born in 81. So, this is in the 90s. He's in high school. All right.

Same as mine. Yeah. That's what I mean. I can smell the polo sport already. Exactly. You can smell that. You can smell a Dracar all over everybody. It no good it's dripping it's fucking dripping so yeah but like it's not the same like we we talk about a lot of these guys come up and they can do no wrong

because even if they do wrong everybody just ignores them because they're 6 10 and 16 years old or something whereas high school wrestlers don't that's not a money sport no so they don't quite get that quite you get scholarships and shit like that but it's not like schools make money watching wrestling i know they do in iowa in a couple of places but it's not their main money sport a hundred thousand people don't show up to watch two teenagers in their underwear grapple on the ground yeah it just doesn't fucking happen it's very much viewed like the rotc program it's kind of yeah it's very much like that so i if you're a star wrestler it's just a different thing you're not like uh you're not you don't feel like you're above the law i don't think or anything like that you still have

to kind of yeah go within the you know down the lane here so uh everybody knew him though because of this uh he had you know high school wrestling in oklahoma is a lot bigger than it is oh i'm sure another place the midwest wrestling's a big deal like i said in iowa it's a fucking huge deal really oh god amateur wrestling's a big deal there yeah the midwest they like shit that people that nobody else like they like high school wrestling and college hockey nowhere else on earth do people watch a high school wrestling or college hockey except in the midwest like everything nobody else like yeah it's it's a weird thing i don't understand it's i think the cold just leaves you open for suggestion anything that's indoors let's do it it's pretty cold i'll sit and watch two kids fucking grapple that sounds

great uh shit maybe one of them will break their neck that could be something you know we get the get the ambulance in here that's where that one-legged kid that's really fucking good uh i'll bet that's where he's from have you seen that video that there's a there's a dude that's super popular that's a high school kid that's got one leg oh i thought you meant the college guy from asu that was just is that where he's from no that was a few years ago it was like 10 years ago the guy wasn't in the olympics i wouldn't have a fucking clue man he went to asu he has one leg i met the guy he he interned at my ex-wife's company that was he from the midwest no i don't think so he was a black dude he was no i saw a white kid okay yeah no this is a black dude he was fucking amazing though you see videos

this dude will fuck you up with one leg just comes after you it's like it's scary this isn't an appendage and well they come at you at a whole other angle too from the ground what the hell's going on here this would be like being attacked by a giant snapping turtle but isn't that like an advantage because you got one less leg thing for me to grapple? One less thing for me to pin. Not only that, too, then your weight is redistributed, too. Yeah, center of gravity is weird. So you can be stronger in the core because you don't have the weight of that leg.

The weight is on you when you weigh the same as the other person, but he's got a leg that he has to distribute it to. I don't know, man. I don't know the physics of it exactly. It still seems like a major advantage. It does. it to. I don't know, man. I don't know the physics of it exactly. It still seems like a major advantage. It does. It does. I would think so. If you're a wrestler, start lopping them off.

Yeah. If you have no legs, you're going to be fucking incredible. You're just going to be a solid torso. Of course, somebody could just pick you up and throw you. That's an issue there. You don't really have a lot of... Do you get points for that? I think you do.

It's got to be. It's got to be. And if you toss them into the spectators, that should be extra, I think. That's pretty impressive. Just by grabbing the arms and spinning? Yeah, like I spin him like he's a shot put. Not a shot put, a discus. Yeah.

Yeah, just shoot him like that. Or a toddler. Or a toddler. Or a little person in a less PC time. Either way. So, anyway, David here, Bird, he's half Cherokee. That's going to come into play

a lot, his heritage here too. He's half Cherokee. He goes to Locust Grove High. He is a two-time state wrestling champion in his weight class in high school, which is fucking impressive. That's pretty goddamn good. He's a two-time freestyle all-american here in the freestyle i guess

freestyle wrestling he's from selena oklahoma uh he is a runner up in the nationals there too uh so that's he's fucking good he's a good fucking wrestler which is weird because when he gets into mma he never really doesn't really wrestle much he's mostly a puncher, which he's like a brawler, which is weird. Why would you do that? I don't know. I'm not sure. Maybe that Greco wrestling is different than, you know what I mean? Freestyle?

Isn't that what it's called, Greco? Greco Roman, there's freestyle, there's different disciplines in the Olympics. I know they have different ones. But it's weird, though. This guy, everything he does is against what he should do. You're like, oh, he's just going to do this. Oh, he's going to do the opposite of that. Okay, never mind. My bad.

He's, like I said, two-time All-American, state champion, runner-up in the Nationals. Big deal here. He's offered a wrestling scholarship at the University of Tennessee Chattanooga. That great fucking terrific right free college for wrestling awesome uh so he goes there and in the spring of 2000 he is kicked out of school for poor academic performance so he's a dummy he's academics are not his fucking thing he's there yeah he's not

good at it it's just not his it's just not what he's into listen you're preaching to the choir babe you know yeah he's not into the academics now i would think though in a situation like this where you're getting a free college scholarship and all this to apply you're gonna try to apply yourself you're gonna like ask some fucking you know ask some nerdy kid and they'd be like hey you're gonna come over to my dorm or i'm gonna put you in a fucking pretzel now you're talking i'm gonna turn you into a human pretzel if you don't come over and tell me what this means because i need to pass shit like i that would be my attitude anyway and i sucked at school so you know i don't know so he's uh he's pulled there he ends up also going

to uh uh he ends up spending a fall semester in the spring the fall of 2000 at bacon college in muskegee oklah. So, yeah. He's there. After he got kicked out. After he gets booted out of Tennessee, Chattanooga, I guess, you know, another college. And if it's a small college, not a big chance to take to throw a scholarship at a guy who's a great wrestler.

Who cares? Maybe your wrestling team's about to excel. Yeah, maybe that or maybe not. Or maybe he's just going to fucking flunk out and then what do you lose? Who cares? He's close to home anyway maybe that or maybe not so or maybe he's just uh gonna fucking flunk out and then what do you lose who cares so he's close to home anyway you can send him on a greyhound it won't cost you a flight to get him the fuck out of there so here though he does not last a whole semester as the coach kicks him off the team because he just he's just not uh he doesn't practice as hard as the other guys he's just not into it into the academics or into the actual training of wrestling so he just doesn't get it he's just a slacker he doesn't practice as hard as the other guys. He's just not into it, into the academics or into the actual training of wrestling.

So he just doesn't get it. He's just a slacker. He doesn't understand that this is fucking real life now. Yeah, it's a work ethic thing. And everybody else said to he just, everybody else was in training all the time. He was drinking and partying and smoking weed and fucking off and not training and not doing cardio and not doing his wrestling training. If you've ever seen like a high school wrestling practice, it's insanity. It really is.

It's basically what you would imagine the CIA is doing to ISIS, suspected ISIS members in black sites in Tajikistan. It's basically what you think is going on right now, what they're doing. They pump it up to 105 fucking degrees and everybody puts their sweat clothes on and they run around till they're ready to die and then they wrestle more yeah it's fucking insane yeah it's crazy because everybody's trying to make weight and shit so uh this guy here though he uh he he he just didn't have it in college once he got into like kind of boozing and fucking off he he really goes down that path as well fine with him he he'll pick a path and he'll really just dive in head first

whether it's a good idea or not it's not really the it's just his choice it's just his choice and he does it which if you have good ideas great right like you see the defiant ones documentary and dr dre talks about you know he wanted to leave death, and he said he didn't care what it cost him. He didn't care if he lost Masters. He didn't give a shit. He just, once he made the decision, that was it, and he was gone. Good thing for Dr. Dre, obviously. Not great if all of your decisions lead to giant tattoos with your gang name across them.

That was a bad idea. Different outcomes, really, is what it is there. a bad idea to the different different outcomes really is what it is there uh so his coach his high school coach johnny cook said he didn't understand this him getting kicked out of school and fucking off because he said in school in high school he was a leader he was a standout he was like you know he was the guy yelling at other kids who weren't there on time to work out and shit like that where the fuck were you for practice like you're five minutes late dude we got work in and you missed it like so it made no sense to him that he would all of a sudden become a slacker uh the cook that his ex-coach said quote he practiced two or three times a day was as solid a kid as you'll ever find so i mean that's a glowing what the fuck

happened from a wrestling coach that's pretty glowing because now those guys are dicks mainly for the most part uh they said this coach talked about how he would stick up for all the bullied kids like he didn't fucking if anybody was getting bullied he would he would fucking stand up for him and go fucking you know fuck up the dude who was bullying doing the bullying which was nice uh they said maybe like the worst he'd get into in high school was him and a couple other guys from the wrestling team fucking drinking a few beers and cruising around the back roads in one of their pickup trucks or something. Very Oklahoma. Very Oklahoma. Not really bothering anybody.

Just being douches. Being kids. Being kids. Exactly. They said that he was not in a lot of fights as far as that goes because people knew not to fuck with him. He was a tough dude. He was a state champ. Yeah, that's the thing.

No, that's the thing. He's a solid dude, too, in the middle. He's a solid guy. He's only like 5'11", but he's 200 pounds of solidness. One of those guys who's just built like a brick. And he was really good. And he was really good. His family moved from Salina to be in the Locust Grove High School District because they thought he'd have the best chance of getting into a Division I wrestling program.

So that's how good he was, that his family moved because he had that much potential. So that's a lot there. He thought maybe he'd be a wrestling coach later on. He was thinking about after his wrestling. I don't know why you want to do that. Doesn't seem like the most lucrative. No, but I mean, maybe, you know, you can do that for a while. You can coach the Olympics or something. All you're looking to afford is beer.

Then, yeah. Yeah. Right. That's that's true. So but he has shitty grades and none of that happens. He leaves his second college there and just basically wanders he takes menial jobs I see sometimes he has no place to live he sleeps in his truck sometimes we're talking this is you know he's 19 20 years old here just not not doing great he didn't just didn't know what to do with

himself he was adrift basically since high school you know since middle school all he cared about was wrestling and now that's over. And that happens to a lot of athletes. When sports are over, they don't know what to do with themselves. It's all they've ever done and all they've ever thrown themselves into. And now they're like,

huh, okay. Well, that's done. Oh, what do I do now? Most people face that when they're, you know,

68 or something when they retire. They're like, wow, okay then. Now what do I fucking do? Sitting here all day. now I just sit here on my ass. Yeah. But I guess at least then, at least least when you're 68 maybe you're a little more tired and

you're a little more amenable to sitting on your ass but when you're 19 you're like i don't know what the fuck to do with myself that's that's bad energy 19 year olds need something to do with themselves or else they will find some shit to do with themselves that's never good and it's usually for the worst here uh him though he didn't know what to do. He thought to himself, and he told a bunch of his friends that he was thinking about going into the Marines and becoming a chaplain. I don't know where the fuck that came from.

Yeah, that's a new one. I'm going to go into the Marines, and I'm going to be a preacher. Yeah, I think I'm going to... No, no, I know nothing about religion right now, but I'm thinking about just being a chaplain, and in the Marines, too. I think that's the best place for a chaplain.'ll be real busy i think yeah i think i'll be busy those guys yeah they're gonna probably need to talk to me uh so he ends up going march of 2002

he enlists in the marines my christ so there he is he's in the marines now uh he is goes to motor transport school in missouri uh before he's moved to uh 29 palms up there isn't it california yeah yeah oh pendleton yeah yeah so he was uh he had a he had a he had a kid at this point by the way he had his high school girlfriend and him had a kid and that uh he just kind of leaves them doesn't really see you have a good one he's got a kid and he's joining the marines and leaving the state yeah not even like keeping in touch or being like a family person he's just like i picture him like his legs dangling off the back of the truck just waving bye that's it he's gone now see you later a fold down tailgate all the way down it goes down his feet

dangling yeah he was just bye clanging off of it. That's the way other guys looking at him like, you're not going back, are you? You're not going back. It's over, huh? Yeah. So they had, like I said, a kid, but he ended up hooking up with another girl in Tennessee when he was at school. In Chattanooga. In Chattanooga.

And he ends up marrying this girl girl uh in the after he leaves the wife and kid and goes into the marines he marries the tennessee girl so he's already all twisted up in relationship in the last two years three years he's really fucked his life up good he's really twisted it into a fucking knot he's almost got it pinned down it's almost yeah you could it's about to submit and they just kicked out three. It's foot on the ropes on this one. So, yeah, they get married, and they live in an off-base housing at one point for a while. Apparently, while they were in off-base housing, and one time when they were on base, military police had to respond to a domestic disturbance between the two of them. And apparently David here just kind of laughed about it.

It was like, it's all fine and dandy. And they just were like, OK. And that was the end of it. He just told them that everything was fine. And they just laughed it off. We'll see you around then. Yeah. They were like, is he trying to kill you?

And she's like, no. And they're like, all right, take it easy. Have a good one. And that was that. So military police. That's not great yeah um another time he uh this is interesting he he was in california here and uh he was drunk and high and all fucked up and i guess he got caught by the mps and they uh military police and he ran away and so they were chasing him and he has good cardio you know from wrestling

and shit he could probably run a long time and he ran into the mojave desert drunk and high just when he just kept running and they ran for a while and they were like are we just going to chase this fucking guy into the desert forever he'll either come back or die so i mean one or the other i guess fuck it and they just shrugged and went back and eventually he came back and uh he lost his driving privileges for that apparently okay lost no no driving i don't know if no driving hell of a punishment military vehicles or i don't know what that a wall i don't know what i guess i don't know they could see him there he is there's that fucking idiot i don't know i i feel like the the the women mps in stripes were a little more strict

than this yeah yeah they were having sex with them at their boss's house and giving them food and wine and show more strict than this yeah well i feel like this is yeah that's probably right i don't know what it is dude i feel like they're like that was sean young by the way yeah i know yeah wow yeah what the hell she went nuts yeah that was interesting she had back in her sane days she really had a role going and uh yeah what happened sean well she was in the 80s she was doing great she's fucking nuts now have you heard her talking yeah she's a lunatic she's literally she's literally off the off the rocker yeah she needs fucking hell are you saying that because this guy's half cherokee jimmy jesus i'm only kidding so i almost took credit for that yeah no sean young yeah she was so pretty and such a great actress.

Well, crazy. She was amazing. That's true. And then right after, you force a woman to, maybe they should have given that to a trans actress because it ruined her trying to pretend to be trans. That's true, yeah, yeah. People were like, does she have a dick?

Afterwards, which was really not fair to her at all. Everybody calling her Finkel forever. Maybe that's why she went crazy. I'd lose my shit too. were like does she have a dick afterwards which was really not fair to her at all everybody calling her finkel that's why she went crazy i would i'd lose my shit too that's everybody coming up trying to lift up the back of her skirt to see what's back there she's got those hemorrhoids yeah whatever jesus christ man this is one of those john i feel like if you throw yourself on the mercy of the military court and just say i I was super drunk. Military gets that. Drunk, they understand. If you're like, I drank so many fucking beers,

they're like, he's just blowing off some steam. That's fine. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's got to be considered. As long as you didn't kill anybody, that's normal in the military to get super drunk and act like an idiot and run into the desert. Better of a defense than crime of passion.

It's a bunch of young kids. A bunch of young guys are going to get drunk a lot if they can. The problem is he's 19 and he can the desert. Better of a defense than crime of passion. Yeah. It's a bunch of young kids. So it's like a bunch of young guys are going to get drunk a lot if they can. The problem is he's 19 and he can't drink. Oh, wait, he's 21 at this point. Yeah, he's 21. Yeah, so he had college and had a kid and everything else in between all that shit.

So he ends up being deployed to Iraq in February 2004. We've got this guy going to Iraq. This guy's going to iraq yeah he's a little it's interesting here it's he's in marine wing support squadron 374 and he's deployed uh they would go to uh kuwait and then into iraq from there uh it's jesus christ they said now this is important uh they said ground support in this sector never saw any live fire aside from mortars. They just filled sandbags for the first few weeks. But it was hot and shitty, but they weren't in an active combat zone, basically.

It wasn't a dangerous place. It was just shitty. It's just Iraq. It's just Phoenix in August. It's all it was. Sandbags in Iraq is like peeling potatoes, though. Yeah, it's miserable. You just look all around and you're like iraq is like peeling potatoes though yeah oh it's miserable look all around you're like oh there's so much to do it's hot and fucking shitty and

miserable and he said the food sucked and there's sand and everything and it's just a mess it's not great uh they they gave him uh jesus christ this idiot had to get rabies shots because he fucking apparently ran up on some coyote who was near some of the military shit. Why would he do that? He ran up to it to try to scare it away and it bit him. Because, you know, it's a wild animal. You can't be like, get the fuck out of here. They just bite you.

Try to scare it? Yeah, they just bit him. We didn't even do that with the bird. Yeah, we were more cautious with a baby bird than this guy was with a fucking desert coyote. A Middle Eastern desert coyote uh in a middle eastern desert coyote i got a four foot tube of wrapping paper trying to yeah just kind of nudge it in the ass go ahead this is a this guy's running up all right have you seen a coyote up close those things are fucking nasty looking animals and especially a middle eastern desert coyote that thing's got

to be like fortified with oil and shit, you know? It's got coyote dreadlocks. Oh, it's just nasty hot. That thing could survive that. I don't want to mess with it. It's a chupacabra. Yeah, that's what it is. It's a chupacabra. So, yeah, so he gets rabies shots there.

So there was that. So he gets rabies shots there. So there was that. Apparently, they called him Stan in Iraq, which to them, they said it was basically it stood for shit is what they were calling him, was shit. Really? They were calling him shit because they said he was full of shit. So they just called him Stan. Stan, which to them was just a euphemism for shit.

Wow. So, yeah, that's what his friend here told him. They said it was, basically, he would not be outdone. If someone said something, he's going to one-up them. It was just, he was a pain in the ass, they said, basically. The one guy here, a guy named Travis Fugate, who was in the Marines with him, with him said quote if someone said they had four aces tyner would say he had 17 so it's that's not one that makes sense that's the level he goes an unbelievable ridiculous level not 5 17 he said if someone had fought two guys he'd say he fought off four someone uh he said he uh said

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and at first it's one of those things where at first they just when you hear a few lies from someone at first you're like hey this guy might just be like a badass or whatever and then like after a while you're like okay he's nobody's this interesting nobody's yeah he's full of shit right he shits on a gold toilet this guy right because this i feel like you'd have to to be this fucking full of shit, right? He's the kid who's... He was the kid who was like, I have Super Mario 9 for regular Nintendo in 1992 when it didn't exist. The fourth one just came out.

Yeah, and you're like, didn't 3? 3's pretty new. It's like, I have 9. I got it. And my dad knows this guy who works for Nintendo. You know that kid? My dad knows Mr. Nintendo. Yeah, he knows him, and he just sends him copies of stuff so we so we could test it out and like you know so i get all the new games

so i have the shit that's coming out in 2042 yeah i have stuff like i have stuff named after boxers that haven't even fought yet you don't even know them they're in kindergarten right now but like that's how new it is pretty good it's tough to make the the basketball games we have to predict the rosters in 10 years that's a tough one but you know what it's cool it's tough to make the the basketball games we have to predict the rosters in 10 years that's a tough one but you know what it's cool it's still a great game so they said also he'd sit around and tell people that he was a hit man for the new york and the chicago mobs oh jesus both not just one yeah the competing one one mob can't hold them they all like me well that's the thing it's when you're in demand right you know they're

gonna try to get you and they're gonna try to get you when you go to what you do everybody hears about it from new york to chicago that's the thing and you know when you got you get and if you're gonna do anything you want to set these syndicates up against each other to fight over you because that always works out well so uh he tells one guy that one to one in one job that he had in the for as a mob hit he got 50 grand out of it. That's what he was paid for a mob hit. So that's the kind of money he's making, just to let everyone know he's a high roller. Each time I go out.

Yeah. If I leave the door, it's 50 grand. It's 50 grand for my services. I mean, you know, whether it's New York, Chicago, might go up to 60. Maybe next time I got a job with Chicago, New York wants me. They up at the 75. That's how my rate gets so high. Started making 50 bucks just competing with me competing uh he said that uh this particular hit the guy who wanted the hit done uh he wanted uh he basically they wanted this guy to drop dead in front of his wife for some reason is what he said they wanted

this guy killed in front of his wife so uh david tyner here tells everybody that he he set himself up on the roof of a uh a roof in milwaukee on top of a building and waited for them to get out on a patio where they you know were eating and then he shot him dead at 300 yards with no scope yeah no scope and fugate said quote no scope while he was laughing he could be pretty convincing but he'd go too far no scope 300 yards no scope just a fucking freehand he really probably just pulled it out like wyatt erp and just fucking 300 yards right through the forehead someone put an ace of spades on his head and see if he could put it through the fucking are you kidding me he's the kind of guy that somebody would be like i once did 150 in a car

and he's like yeah i did 300 i did 300 no wheels no wheels i've blown out all my tires well what happened was the cops were chasing me and i ran over the spike strips i'm like shit they mean business i better floor it took it up to 300 you know it was tough i'm not gonna lie to you sparks were flying but you know once you get in the grooves wheels start making a groove in the concrete you can really cruise and it's not too shabby goes like a train goes like a fucking train so he's just full of shit yeah so i mean if he said 50 yards right and a scope who knows if he's lying but the thing is why why go this far you've got such an interesting life already people would be impressed with state champ that's the thing that's all he has to say

yeah man just be yourself school school scholarship just be yourself but yeah that's a much better story than this bullshit he's in this group of guys and he feels like he needs to be he's got impressed i feel like it's one of those things where in high school and i could be wrong about this but in high school and even up to where he got kicked out in college he was considered like hot shit yeah like you know what i mean like he was he wasn't respected he wasn't in the lower third of everybody he was kind of a leader and all this type of shit and i feel like in the marines he just wasn't he was just an average guy and i feel like he was trying to make himself that thing that he wanted to be now yeah he's got to stand out he's used to that uh but anyway less than two months after he arrived in iraq uh fugate here heard what he said was a uh was like a bunch of combat boots passing by him

uh so he thought there was some kind of fight or scuffle or something was going on uh so he said when they sit around forever guys tend to get in fights and you know it's a bunch of dudes a bunch of aggressive dudes that signed up literally in the one branch of the military that has no stated purpose except murder sanction murder but you know death is what they're after they don't they're not building villages the marines they never say they do they don't even fucking doctors yeah also we'll put holes in them someone else come fix them up we don't give a fuck and they'll go yeah that's what we do that's your job that's their job i mean that's i mean that's their stated job kill them all my god sort of man i think that's what they're going for their

slogan oh that's what they're going for either that or that was a uh metallica thing i'm not sure but either way that's what i'm saying it's it's uh you know it's a bunch of dudes that are the guys that are you know sitting around oneupping each other like that all day. Eventually, there's going to be a fight. It's generally not a bunch of pussies, and they're sitting around in a rack and, yeah, you know, amped up for something that's not happening. They get in fights, as young men do, of all stripes. And in

2002, they are still pissed about those towers. Yeah, this is 04. Still, they're over there, and it's just... Osama's not found yet. They're still pissed. No, no. They haven't even found Saddam Hussein yet, for Christ's sake. They haven't even found a sandal track yet. No, they still haven't found that they're over there and it's just... Osama's not found yet. They're still pissed. No, they haven't even found Saddam Hussein yet, for Christ's sake. They haven't even found a sandal track yet. No, they still haven't found that they're there for no reason. They still haven't even found that yet.

The lack of any reason for being there in the first fucking place didn't happen yet. No. Oh, shit. Oh, damn. We didn't open Al Capone's vault yet and find fucking... Nothing. Our rag was the biggest Al Capone's vault yet and find fucking... Nothing. Arag was the biggest Al Capone's vault in the history of the world. We're punching each other for nothing right now.

We're going to find a big stash. We're going to open up a door, and it's going to be like Stewie on Family Guy's weapons closet. It's just going to be fucking nukes. And we're like, that just didn't happen. We found nothing. So anyway, enough of that shit. Two donkeys in a box is sparklers. That's Greg Girold.

Yeah, it's true. That's what it is. So did he say Al Capone's vault? I don't think so. But he did say, we went looking for weapons of mass destruction. It turned out to be two donkeys in a box of sparklers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that too. So he figures he gets all.

He wants to go see what's going on here. And apparently it wasn't a fight. It was David inside a tent with his gun in his mouth uh threatening to shoot himself oh so everybody's rushing to see what's going on they did not run there to save him no they were being one fugate said someone yelled do it pussy i zipped it closed so they're not real supportive and trying to help him it's just stan it's just it's just stan he's gonna shoot fuck him right yeah fuck yeah fuck do it pussy everybody said fuck him so do it pussy do it pussy uh fugate says quote marines it's a bunch of 18 to 24 year

old guys we weren't the best support group probably not i'm gonna say based on that feeling today is much the same probably yeah i'm gonna say based on that feeling today is much the same probably yeah i would assume so so and then we wonder why should we have women in the military i think so yeah let's put some in there soften these fuckers up it's not even soften let's humanize them a little slightly not that women are less tough either because they are but they're also like, what the fuck are you doing? Don't shoot yourself, asshole. They might say that.

Don't shoot yourself, pussy. But they'll tell you not to shoot yourself, pussy. Whereas the guys are like, fucking do it. I don't care. See some action. Speaking of that, there's a guy that is in Iraq or some shit and he flies a Blackhawk helicopter. He's going to commission a flag for us and give us a certificate of authenticity and everything that it was flown on his fucking

chopper. I am jacked about it. We get a lot of feedback from overseas guys. And dude, thank you guys for listening to us over there. Honestly, that's fucking, that's fucking, if we can help, you know, uplift that shit just a little bit and get a touch of something that feels like home or whatever. If it just feels like home to you or feels like something take your mind off of shit,

then dude, we're just happy. Or if it infuriates you and you want to shoot us and you take it out on somebody else, I'm good with that too. Either way, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, we're not talking shit about Marines here at all. This is all shit that if you sat down and talked to Marines, they'd be like, oh my god. Yeah, it's just, we're just... They'd tell us way worse. They'd listening there's people yeah that's what i mean

people is going to be listening over there just nodding their heads going uh-huh so uh apparently a commanding officer came over and they have to be kind of a little more you know they can't be like if there's an inquiry afterwards and it said commanding officers said quote do it pussy i feel like that's not a good look so the commanding officer talks uh dav, do it, pussy. I feel like that's not a good look. So the commanding officer talks David into taking the gun out of his mouth, and then they put him on suicide watch, obviously. Yeah. Let's take all the guns away from that one. The guy that just aimed one at his own head.

Also, anything that blows up, we should probably take that away. Let's keep him away from people he might want to. Let's just put him away. Give him bags and sand. Let's put him on that detail again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then after this, he gets a letter from home from his wife saying that she cheated on him.

Oh, my word. So that's these two. Yeah. Then they separate from here. So he's over there on suicide watch getting a letter saying his wife cheated on him, which is, that is awful. How do you read that? That's awful.

How do you write that? Yeah. that feeling would be horrible nothing you can do from 10 000 miles away either like you they're just sitting there shit i have all these guns and no way to use them on why i'm angry this is terrible i'm writing you with a penis in my mouth yeah this is terrible so uh at this point too, he was he was basically he would he got fat now, too. Yeah. He's just athletes who don't, you know, keep up with athletics, tend to get fat. And he did.

And everybody said that he was they break his balls because he got fat, too. So people were picking on him. He turned into the pile of the group from Full Metal Jacket, basically. That's what I was already picturing. Yeah. He turns into the pile. But Pile didn't try to tell crazy stories and shit he was just a weird awkward dude uh but this uh is different so basically this whole thing he ended up being forced into remedial physical uh training which he hated because he's supposed to be an

athlete like a top tier fucking all-american athlete and he's got to do remedial physical training like you know him and the kid with like you know bone spurs and the the guy who got a bunch of deferments and like you know the kid who was born with a fucked up spine they're all next to him going low sperm count we're gonna get through this man and he's like fuck all of you god damn it i. I'm an all-American. I'm an all-American. She cheated on me. Damn it.

Tennessee. So he ends up being sent back to California for a psych assessment and a subsequent discharge based on his bat-shitness. And he's all done. That's the military term that they put on him. He was released for bat-shitness, which, uh you know it happens so uh he does that uh it's it's bad they said too he was uh when you're on the way out when you're being kicked out of the marines apparently uh you're basically treated like complete shit oh i'm sure that uh they said uh it was just they treated him like shit like he was nobody and from then on now he's now he's washed out of everything.

Washed out of wrestling. Washed out of college. Now he's washed out of the Marines. Where the fuck do you go now? I can't imagine. You went to the military, which is where people go to get their shit together. And they said, nope, you suck. No, your shit is too far out of whack.

We can't even put it together. We're the most well-organized fucking machine there is, and can't put your shit together you're that fucked up we have no place for you as a cog no place no uh so now he has no fucking idea where to go uh just crazy uh yeah he uh so he leaves uh he leaves there the 29 palms place and they're all like all right well there's that crazy shit asshole he's gone uh and then he comes back pretty soon after that uh drives in wearing a construction outfit apparently he got a job doing construction on the base really so yeah he got a job with a construction company and they happen to be contracted to do work on the base okay so he's not their problem anymore but he's but he's still but he's still there like oh it's him again jesus christ uh he's still there. Like, oh, it's him again. Jesus Christ.

He's just an overalls. Yeah. Everybody said he was so happy. Pulled in. He said, live in the dream. This is great. Got me a job and feeling good. He said he had a construction job and he felt great and said he was just happy as shit.

Just whatever. Everything was fine. But for some reason, he ends up returning in late 2004 i guess that job didn't work out or the contract was over or something but he returns to selena oklahoma and uh breaks one of the the basically the the crime and sports commandments of don't go home it's fundamental as fuck never go home and uh he goes right home which is a bad sign here. He tells his high school friend of his that he got into a physical altercation with an officer in Iraq and got kicked out of the Marines. Surprised he didn't say he shot him from 300 yards with no scope. Yeah, they look down on that sort of shit. So they booted me.

He also says out. He says that he this is is not true by the way but he tells all his friends that he has ptsd because he said that he had was forced to clean out a humvee that had been blasted and he said there was blood and brains all over the cab that he was forced to clean out which never happened he i mean i'm sure there's been plenty of humvees that were blasted by iraqis but uh none of them that he had to clean out. Put it that way. And he's giving, nah, he's a fucking prophet. Yeah, exactly. He's an asshole.

He's looking for some kind of, he has to be big man. Right. That's all there is to it. It's got to be interesting. It's got to be interesting. They said while he was in, I think it's Al-Takadam. I'm sure I'm saying that wrong. While he was there, no one was killed there.

No one. No one. By the time he was there, no deaths in that area of combat-related deaths. So he never saw that whatsoever. It's impossible. A friend of his, or a friend of his, his friend that he told the story about the fight with the officer, his mother, Cindy David, said, quote, he didn't look well about Tyner. Cindy David said quote he didn't look well about Tyner they said he just he wasn't uh

said he he used to like uh Tyner used to come over and he would bow hunt and shoot deer from the tree stands in their property and uh she said he had a smile you couldn't miss but he became very serious and solemn so he's just a different cat when he came back and I'm sure part of it is just he just went through the ultimate failure he went in didn't fit in socially couldn't do it fucking hack it physically couldn't do it mentally just couldn't do anything the job requires and you have to feel like shit after that you have to there's no way you don't feel like shit after that anytime you go and just completely completely fail and utterly in every aspect of it yeah you know it would be like having a bad set and bombing in comedy except for fucking months that would be terrible just a never-ending set that you can't

get out of is that is he ready bet no i'm still five okay five more okay uh so where's everybody from you two married anybody got kids oh shit give it up for the troops you all hate the troops oh bye this isn't good this is bad this is a vegan conference and you all hate the troops this is weird this is super weird uh he told his friends to like one time they went to the carnival together and he left when the fireworks started because he said he couldn't handle the the explosions and all that type of shit now his buddy fugate not his buddy but his uh military uh marine friend here fugate who clearly hates him yeah he says he says that he resents any discussion of post-traumatic stress with this guy with tyner and he says quote that fucker wasn't over there long enough to see shit

was his fucking his response i want to talk to this guy he sounds like a fucking fucker wasn't over there long enough to see shit was his fucking his response i want to talk to this guy he sounds like a fucking fucker wasn't over there long enough to see shit fuck him wow so that's fucking awesome so yeah he that's his response so but he's still making up stories and around this time he starts you know kind of doing menial work he works as a bouncer uh he works for the county tree service department like trimming up trees on the road and shit like that for a while works at a cement plant uh he's just he's rudderless man he's just wandering trying to figure out what to do with himself he hasn't even started the sports yet you notice that right we still have sports to go here in the middle here

uh he fucked around with cars uh was his thing on the side he liked to dick around yeah like fix cars and shit like that uh he meets a woman and has another baby god jesus stop just you know my genes are great i need to pass them along i'm doing so well uh yeah he doesn't deserve sex he should have to tug until he he should have something? That should be a thing. Women of Oklahoma, I decree no one shall have sex with thine David Tyner until he succeeds at something. We shall let you know. Updates forthcoming. Thank you.

There will be no bird for any of you. That would be fucking amazing. Until he succeeds at listen some fucking something anything you fucking you label him you'll make him make him wear a special hat so all the women know oh we're not allowed to fuck him it's a no pussy hat it's the opposite of the ones that the women wore in the parades it's a no pussy hat It's a no pussy hat. You know how it goes.

Somebody knit that. No pussy. You got to design it, knit it. So I don't know what the fucking no pussy hat sounds like, but it looks like, but it sounds awesome. It sounds disgusting. And gross. Gross. So, yeah, he's got a baby baby here he doesn't know what to do

uh a lot of his friends his old wrestling friends were getting into mma as they do oh it's that time yeah it's that time period we're talking 2005 2006 mma's really is ramping up he's blowing the fuck up um yeah it was becoming very popular popular this is when the ultimate fighter first came out the reality show so that really got people into the that's what hooked people that's the funny thing has nothing to do what's going on in the ring right that's what they don't fucking understand like if you watch the like the hbo documentaries on the boxing it doesn't matter if you even know who these fucking guys are neither of them could speak english nothing it doesn't matter they make it so interesting that you have to see what's going to happen even if you don't give a shit about boxing right you i have to see

if this guy is going to you know honor his dead mother and or if this guy is going to you know help his fucking uh you know his uh muscular dystrophy daughter that he's you know got to pay medical bills for i'm into this shit like that's what you do oh it's the same thing with the the stores dash i mean you watch the kardashians then you go to the store and buy their shit that's what i mean that's what i think i feel like that's what fucking wrestling hasn't figured out yet yeah they if you watch like i can't fucking like watch a lot of modern wrestling i can't do it like apologies to a couple of like wrestlers that we talked to and and they're actually a couple like cassius ono our boy that

dude fucking is great to watch he's he's awesome and uh like dudes like that but a lot of them like the as like the rest wwe hasn't figured out to make the shit don't make them do backstage sketches and shit like that make it a fucking reality show that they fight and then translate that shit to the to the to the live stage build that up that's how you build up. That's how you build up shit. That's how you build up fucking feuds. They're better. VH1 was better at building up fucking New York versus some other chick on Flavor of Love

than WWE is building up two fucking dudes or women or whoever fighting for a title in front of 60,000 people. It's sad, but that's the truth of the matter. And 60,000 people are all that watched flavor a lot no that got huge ratings did it fuck i love new york was the highest rated show they ever had on vh1 vh1 really ever fucking had yeah really yeah that's crazy that five million people watched the season premiere of it i think unbelievable that's what i'm saying that shit was that fucking big you know that's more people than watch yeah raw every week wwe raw so i mean you know what i'm saying and this if you include fight i don't understand it because the ultimate fighter that's what got people into the ultimate fighting and that's just not what they're

doing they're having these guys read from scripts and tell each other big monologues and shit what are you doing what are you doing you think we want to watch a fucking 24 year old dude with slick back hair and a fucking beard try to act now no he's i'm i'm he's precarious doing backflips off the top rope never mind fucking acting let's take it one step at a time here everybody calm the fuck down have him argue with somebody about something real right and let them make up the word so it sounds real i don't know every week could be the same storyline of one dude sleeps with another dude's diva and that's it well there's that create something you can create anything you can create stuff if they're all traveling together it's a big road show so fucking create that atmosphere of they all when in this city at

that hotel they got into something do that you can fucking do it don't just have them we only know each other and see each other when we're at an arena backstage and then we have big monologues with each other in the middle of the fucking ring it's the stupidest shit ever and they're like why is this so down so far i don't get it 20 years ago there was eight times as many people watching what happened gee i don't fucking know storyline storyline assholes stop it so that's that's what that's i'm off my soapbox now uh that's why i can't watch that shit now anyway so uh yeah so anyway everybody was into the ultimate fighter and he was like whatever uh he knew a guy named jason nicholson who was in kind of the mma business and uh he

said can you get me into this can you get me matches like can you you know i'm a high school wrestling champion and shit and the guy said fuck yeah i can so gets him into that uh tyner trains uh trains in a few fights uh around town there but usually just he kind of he goes back to his high school trains a little bit there you know because he's well known there uh his coach coach cook said quote the kids loved seeing him before he left he'd always say love you coach love you coach but that was bird so he's just a very once he was at the high school all the kids loved him and that was kind of in his if everybody kissed his ass and liked him he was in his element and he was fine he didn't have to lie he didn't have to lie you have to do anything there they had plaques on the wall he didn't have to lie they looked up to him as this is the guy who i'd like to be like him

yeah so no no lying necessary for him there uh but he he does not train real hard in the mma as hard as he should uh but he gets into it anyway and he has his first fight first fight november 10th 2006 this is at fcf which is freestyle cage fighting that name will come up over and over this is fcf6 this is at the brady theater in tulsa oklahoma where magic happens like i don't know uh he's fighting james grant who is oh and one coming in and oh and three for his career not terrific uh david steiner does well yeah so he's not doing well here david kicks the shit out of this guy. It's a TKO with punches at two minutes and eight seconds into round one. So his first fight, he just comes up and beats the shit out of somebody weaker than him, basically.

So he's 1-0. That's November of 2006. January 2007, this is FCF7, the next big event. This is at the Fire Lake Grand Casino in Shawnee, Oklahoma. Holy shit. My God. It's one night. It's air supply.

And the next night it's FCF seven. That's how it works. They got to clean up the stage. Hell yeah. Get this shit going. The girl from I Dream of Janie. Yeah. That's what it is.

Barbara Eden signing autographs. I know my shit. I know my old sitcom. That's our girl. That's our girl. So this he's fighting Jason Howell. Oh. Sounds like a comer, right?

He's going to kick some ass. He's 0-0 coming in. This is his first fight. Oh, debut. And an 0-2 career. So this does not go well, as you might imagine. Steiner comes out of the gate whipping ass. Steiner.

Steiner. Steiner. Steiner. Steiner. Do I keep calling him Steiner? You called him Steiner a couple times. I figured you'd get it right. I'll never get it right.

I thought maybe because we were talking about wrestling, you went to Steiner from the Steiner Brothers. That's probably true. That might have happened there. He's a wrestler, Steiner, Steiner. I can see that. The crossover is easy. It's really easy here.

So this is another first round TKO with punches. So another guy just comes in and pummels and makes him 2-0. That was January 20, 2007. January 26, he fights again. Again. That was January 20, 2007. January 26, he fights again. Again. That's twice in a week. That's a lot. This is Titan FC Fighting Championships. Titan Fighting

Championships 6. This is at the Memorial Hall in Kansas City, Kansas. The other Kansas City. They have one, too. We have one, too. I think I just learned that. We don't have any sports. We don't have that. And we're not famous for our food, but we're here. They have one. We have one, too. I think I just learned that. We don't have any sports. Yeah. We don't have that.

And we're not famous for our food, but we're here. Rock Chalk. If you go too far west, you'll get here. Yeah. You won't know you're here because this is what we do. If it just still says Kansas City, you won't notice that shit. You won't notice entering Kansas City. You see?

Because you're already in Kansas City. And the next thing you know, we got you. Is that what it is? It's that close to the border? Yeah, they're like on the other sides of the border of each other. We will find that out when we are in Kansas City for Small Town Murder Live. Yeah, which day is that? That's pretty soon.

It's just about sold out, though. I think it's in August. Yeah, it's just about sold out, so don't worry about it, though. It's going to happen. Next fight here. So, like I said, the 26th, he fights Titan FC. This is in Kansas. He fights Greg Jacobs.

Tough guy. He's 0-0 coming in. So he's a new fighter. What do you think? He's going to be world champ? He's full of piss and vinegar. He's excited. He is.

And his career, his record at the end ends up being 0-1. So very accomplished career. Tyner retired him. He's retired a couple people now. I think he planted the seed in their head. This guy retired him. He beats him at 232 of round one

with an arm triangle choke. It says it's a submission. 3-0 for Tyner here. Now, February 10th, which is two weeks later, this guy is fucking packing them in and 2007 this is fcf8 he's gonna fight at all the fcs and that's all he's gonna do every single one this is at kane's ballroom in tulsa i thought you were gonna say kane's chicken kane's fried chicken fingers on university in tempe this This is Kane's Ballroom

where free chicken for every time. You enter, it's two free strips right at the door. We make the sauce daily. It's right there. This is fighting Mitch Smith. Now, Mitch Smith is 0-0 coming in. It sounds like a fucking alias

because he wasn't sure if he was going to be good at this. You know what I mean? I'm not sure if this is going to work out. My name's Mitch Smith. I don't know if I want to tell my family about this. Just in case. What's your name, boy?

Mitch. Mitch Smith. Mitch Mitchelson. I mean Smith. That's more believable than Mitchelson, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mitch Mitch.

No one naming their kid Mitch Mitchelson right now. We're going with that. So he wasn't sure if he'd be good at this, so he's going to go with Mitch Smith, and his questions are answered because he has an 0-1 career record as Tyner retires him as well. This is a submission with punches.

So he just gave, I'm done. Stop hitting me, please. That's what I picture a polite, like somebody doing the timeout sign. Please stop hitting me now. That's enough. I give give like a

little brother or something it was one punch zone he was like boy that hurts way more than i thought uncle yeah start running around the ring trying to get the ref oh hey buddy hey how do i tap out to can i ring that bell is that something that's what i just tap me is that it i'm done i can't oh no i would love an mma if they they had a big rope hanging in the middle. Not that you could choke a guy with that rang a bell that you ended it yourself. If you're giving up, you just go ding, ding, ding. You have to fucking end it that way. That'd be amazing.

I would really enjoy that. That's tapping out right there. You had to ring a bell. That is like, ah. A bunch of little ropes hanging all around the ring. Ding, ding, ding. If you're caught up you gotta hey ring the fucking bell pal i don't know can't breathe i'd ring the bell if i were you

that is the loudest way to scream i am a pussy that's what i mean it would go up and this is not for me really ring that fucking bell man that's there's no way to tap out from punches that's the point that's crazy that is it's ridiculous i mean apart from your corner man throwing a white towel, that's the only way to really give up. Yeah. Otherwise, you just go wave it all down. Pat in the mat. What do you do?

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fights jackie lane who comes into the fight two and oh how old is she yeah exactly she's a 68 year old woman uh with osteoporosis so it's a really not a not a tough fight jackie lane sounds like she knits and and fucking brushes her cats she also wins mma fights because she's two and oh coming in that's a good point this is the first fighter he's fought with a win ever in their whole career the first fighter with a career win like even after him right uh two and oh uh but problem is jackie lane ends up with a two and one career record because this is jackie lane's last fight this is a submission with a guillotine choke in 39 seconds round one and jackie tapped her knitting needles on him and that was that so she's gonna do some fucking what's it called the cross stitch there

you go cross stitch was the one i was looking for is like the thing that people send us all the time i love those things amazing they're fucking dope uh so he's five and oh now he's cruising this is great yeah we've had guys who are really famous it didn't start out five and oh of course they fought people who were good who actually fought right who weren't just like guys they picked out of the parking lot want to fight yeah we'll get hey free chicken strips if you fight tonight whole free chicken strip basket if you fight this guy what do you say extra garlic bread he got kicked out of the marines he's a pussy between the two of us he's a they called it that's what they called him they told him his nickname was pussy shit back in the marines so

i think you could take him and the next thing you know he's being choked to death on the mat so uh march 23rd 2007 fucking two weeks later he's back at it uh he's this is titan fc7 this is uh titan fc7 red rumble everyone on their period yeah everyone's synced up you must be menstruating to to in this. Red Rumble? Red Rumble. Doesn't that sound like a ladies event where they've all synced their periods up and are now going to fight to see who has the most fucking anger from it. They got a doctor checking before each match. You still bleeding?

All right, get in there. Oh, yeah. Look at her. She's all pissed off. Get her in there. Get her in, damn it it she's ready we're never gonna get they're never gonna fight harder than they do right now everybody will say that much you said it so casually she's all pissed off i picture them looking at her through like a

a two-way mirror like the glass layer the one way going now look at her through like a two-way mirror, like the glass layer, the one way going. Now look at her. She's in there. Yeah, she's all pissed off. Look at her go. They go to the next one. Look at this one, too. Oh, man, she is going to be in her bonnet.

Boy, this is going to be a good match. I think they just do like annoying things around the house for like two days beforehand. Get them good and irritable and shit. Pop in the door. Just say some catty comment. Leave stuff on the counters, you know, make them angry. Like leave like, you know, toast crumbs all over. Just really piss them off. You know what I mean?

Mix up their lotions. Hell yeah. Shit like that. Really just little things. We're like, who has fucked with my lotions. Hell yeah. Shit like that. Really? Just little things. We're like, who has fucked with my lotions? No, I know how I put them. We're like, get her in the ring now. Now.

Now's the time. Leave wet towels on the floor. Yeah, just do it. Piss them off. Leave your underwear places. They don't want them. Just shit that would make them just irritable. Not so much anger.

Just be like, and you add that up and really two three squares left on the roll you know how it goes yeah so so uh just all just all this stuff so uh the red rumble is here uh he's fighting jesse lund who is oh and oh coming in but has a 10 and 6 career record oh so this is a guy who becomes a fighter david wins by submission with punches how about this guy gives it up at 238 around one so not a good beginning to a decent career of a 10 and 6 fighter 10 and 5 over the rest of his career not too shabby great not bad good for him for pulling it out. Absolutely. So now this is, he's 6-0 now. Now, at this point, everybody said that he spent more time golfing and drinking than training.

Why does he have money to golf? For any of these fights. I don't know. Who knows? I don't know. It's Oklahoma. It's very open. He just dug a couple holes out and fucking made his own, I think.

I don't know. His own course. Just whatever. I dug a couple holes out. I stuck flags in them. There you go. It's a golf course now. I think he has some wide open spaces. Yeah, who cares? He probably had a golf ball or out. I stuck flags in them. There you go. It's a golf course now. I think he had some wide open spaces.

Yeah, who cares? He probably had a golf ball or two. He had them in there. Just make sure you pay attention where they go. They didn't say he goes to the course. They just said he plays golf. He said, spent more time golfing. Right.

That's all I heard. I did not hear on the course. Right. You know, at the country club. That never came up. So they said he never really, he wasn't training that hard. He just was used to his and he was getting by because he's fighting shitty guys he's getting by being a slacker uh but this

fight coming up uh he had a fight in march that's the red rumble fight and then his next fight's in october so he's got a lot of time and he spends that time to seriously train he's taking this fight seriously october 27 2007 this uh is the oklahoma ko nightmare in the jungle one they plan more nightmares apparently and the and the where's the jungle the jungles of the jungles of oklahoma you can easily clear out your own golf course so uh yeah this is an adir uh deer oklahoma aair i don't know if the adari i think it's a dare a d a r i a d a i r yeah fuck it's even hard to spell it might be a dare i think whatever he's in the main event tonight though main event match grace really this is grace right here this is going to be grace main event and. And we're at Grace.

He is fighting Patrick Smith, who's a real fucking fighter. He's 14 and 13 coming in. Oh. Experienced. He's lost to a couple of Gracies. Really? So he's fought two of the Gracies, and his first fight was against Ken Shamrock. Jesus.

And he's beaten Butterbean. Oh, what? So this motherfucker's fought he's been around like this is not a guy you that's why you have to take this fight seriously he's fought gracie's and a shamrock butterbean mma i think butterbean did an mma thing probably how the fuck did butterbean do that butterbean was on his his record of uh this guy's mma record so butterbean must fight butterbean goes wherever the money is and he goes and takes big plants his feet and takes big swings that's all there is to it how who's paying me five grand to stand there and plant my feet and drop bombs because that's all i'm fucking doing period

that's it man so it is like fucking swinging at a palm tree though oh yeah you're gonna bust your hands up oh he's just a man can just take anything and you don't want to get close enough to him for him to actually hit you, because there's a lot of weight behind that punch. All of it. All of it. So yeah, this guy, Gracie's a shamrock, butter bean. Every guy he fought is an 0-0 coming into the fight here. This guy ends up being a 20-17 career fighter, this Patrick Smith.

Really? Yeah, so he's a good fighter. This fight actually goes into round two. This is David's first time getting out of the first round here. Goes to two minutes and 45 seconds of round two before David finally loses to

TKO by TKO. So this guy beats him, but he held his own. He didn't look terrible, and that's a real fighter that he fought. Like I said, this isn't some tomato can that they lined up for him. And basically he told a lot of people around him that uh this guy was a kickboxer that he fought patrick smith and he said uh he didn't he didn't like the strikes that he got hit with basically he got hit real fucking hard and didn't care for it he told a

friend of his that it was you know just it was he was hit real hard and he didn't really care for that aspect of it yeah he like it was fun when he was just going in beating people up who sucked that was a lot of fun but then when another guy's good and hits you back it's a little then it gets not as fun anymore yeah it's not as fun anymore when you get hit more than they hit you or more than you hit them that's the idea yeah yeah it's no good here uh so at this point now, we're talking late 2007. He's 28 years old. He's got shit jobs. He's going from one shitty job to the other.

He's got problems. He's got kids to support. He's got a lot of issues here. He's just having, and it's all his fault. He's fucked it all up himself. He blew his scholarships. He fucking flunked, you you know washed out of the marines he didn't train as much as he should have but in fighting honestly it seems like if he doubled down and trained more he might have been able to still pull off some kind of career out of it uh because that he fought a decent fighter and went in the

second round with him and you know that seems like okay you're not a not a – the guy didn't blow him up in 20 seconds or something. Then I would go, okay, maybe I see what he's getting at. But he held his own. But he's just not – he's not going to – The fight's won off the field or out of the court. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, the work you put in off the court is what helps on the court. So, yeah, he just – it was weird.

So now he needed to make money. That's the thing. Like, no matter what, he needs to make some money, and he's So now he needed to make money. That's the thing. Like, no matter what, he needs to make some money, and he's having a hard time making some money. And we'll get into kind of how he tries to do that. Now, a lot of this of what's coming up here came from one particular article that was very, that gave details that nobody else gave that was terrific, that were even hard to find in court documents and shit. It's an LA Weekly article by a guy named jake rosen uh just did a great job of uh summing this

all up so i want to give credit where credit is due whenever we use a lot of some particular sources information i try to say hey that dude fucking helped a lot that lady fucking did a lot of work on this yeah because normally it's a million different sources and court docs and shit like that but if everybody hits the same fucking things yeah if it's a million different sources and court docs and shit like that. But if everybody hits the same fucking thing. Yeah. If it's someone who really went up the ass of something with a microscope in a way that we possibly couldn't do by interviewing 50 people and all that, they deserve the credit for it. Yeah, absolutely. So 2008 here, David takes a job as a traveling welder from place to place.

That sounds bleak. Imagine the fucking motels he's staying in, traveling welder. Like, from place to place. That sounds bleak. Imagine the fucking motels he's staying in. Traveling, welding. Oh, boy. Those are some stinky carpets. You barely want to be a welder when you're in one place. Imagine how much jizz is all over those motel seats.

Covered in trucker jizz. Just covered in it. It's such a hard life, man. Oh, dude. Oh, man. He should just carry a black light with him wherever he goes. And a pipeliner? What's a pipeliner?

That's generally somebody that's doing sewer work. You know what I mean? When a pipe is cracked and you don't want to just dig up and fix it, you can put a liner down it and it inflates. Oh, okay. And that way you don't have to replace the pipe. Like oil tankers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got you. And it really doesn't have to be a shit pipe. It could be really any pipe. But you know. Where's Paul Calhoun next? Let me tell you about that shit pipe now. You want to line it up real nice. Otherwise, your shit's going to leak out of everywhere.

How much shit you want leaking into your yard? I mean, maybe you want some. Listen, sometimes it keeps your grass green. I'll tell you what. The spot around the leak, you're going to have grass up to your fucking knees while the rest of it's brown and short. I'll tell you that right now. It's going to have grass up to your fucking knees while the rest of it's brown and short. I'll tell you that right now. It's going to be green up to your goddamn knees.

But your kids will be running around playing. They'll be like, stop playing in the shit grass. And you get them in there and you got to smack them around a couple of times. So anyway, he would disappear for weeks or months at a time for jobs. He'd be gone for a month to Pennsylvania, gone for two months to Arkansas to weld, which that sounds like a rough existence. A road welder. It seems like there's enough people in each town that weld that you don't need to fucking

import somebody. I don't know if it's just a company that hires out big jobs and they bring in people from different... I have no idea here. They just store all their broken welds until they get the door-to-door salesman. Something, yeah. And they said when he was back in town, sometimes you'd see him around town, kind of sparring or working out, trying to stay in shape and shit like that.

But he wasn't in any hardcore training. He meets a guy at this point named Denny Phillips. Now, we'll talk about Denny phillips because he's gonna have a big role in this whole thing uh denny phillips is also hanging around the gyms and that's where he noticed david uh denny's a smaller guy he's about 165 pounds uh you know real tattooed up and shit like that not a guy who you'd see in a cubicle no really no he's a little like a squirrely looking dude looks like he deals meth basically you look at him and go i bet he has meth for sale and he does that's the thing most

of the time uh so he's uh he's denny phillips here so uh by the way there's going to be another phillips later and there's no relation between them now just a common name phil yeah phillips oklahoma was one of our small town murder towns as a matter of fact one of the most fucked up cases we had listen to that one uh so my most favorite opportunity to laugh that was insane so anyway uh they end up meeting at the gym denny and uh and david here they meet at the gym uh he's also denny is also cherokee so right away they have a connection there they're both cherokee they're both into fighting. They're both from the same area. So they easily kind of get along. He also, Phillips knew that David has fought a bunch of fights,

and that's what Denny's trying to get into, cage fighting. So he's asking David about that. He knows that David knows a lot about MMA, and he's asking if he would help train him and maybe be his corner man for a fight. So he's like, I'm going to try to get a professional fight. You help me train and be my corner man and help me out and give me tips and kind of coach me along, which is right up David's alley.

It's what he wanted to do. That's the only time when he's not being a jerk off is when he was back at the high school around the kids. It's the only time everyone was like, oh, he's back in his element. And that's that's how David is normally. But everywhere else, he's a jerk off. So, yeah yeah he does that uh now uh phillips the reason why he's kind of phillips is older than him uh but he's just

getting into mma now because he's kind of a late bloomer because he just got out of prison for stabbing a man uh with a knife he had a knife concealed in his belt buckle and he stabbed a guy and went to prison for 11 years j Jesus. So he just got out of a, just did an 11 year bid. So he just found out about cage fighting. Yeah. Literally they said he came out and he was like, what's this MMA thing that's going on?

Like, I don't even know. That was so in the late nineties, it was nothing. It was so, it was that weird shit. You had to really pay attention to find it back. Oh yeah.

It was happening in like bars and shit. That's where they were filming those specials and then any pay-per-views and in 2008 when you when you walk into a bar to go have a drink then you're watching it on tv it's on a bar spectacle it's a spectacle people are you know gathering for it it's a totally different shirt so these guys oh yeah now it's a now it's a huge event it's overtaken boxing by far uh so uh yeah he meets this guy this this denny phillips doesn't seem like the best guy for him to start hanging out with. I don't know. Just thinking about it.

He has an 11-year bid that's older than him. Knife-wielding, stabbed a guy. It just seems like David could probably use a better influence than that. He kind of goes with his surroundings, and I feel like this isn't good. Now, Denny here, he is also trying to put together a little kind of a drug thing, too, because he figured out that you can make a lot of money with drugs because he did it in prison. He would smuggle drugs into prison. That was one of his games.

He has a very malleable asshole, I believe, is the only way he's going to do that. He's got a very elastic asshole. He asshole i believe is the only way he's going to do that he's got a very it's a very elastic asshole he can just cram whatever up you hear because i'll read books about like prison and shit like that the things that people take in their assholes into a prison i'm like oh my god yeah how do you do that what is listen vaginas are the same bud vaginas are meant to open to shoot a fucking eight pound child out, though. They're meant to do that and then snap up. You've never taken an eight pound shit.

You've never taken a shit with a head the size of a fucking of a baby. Your asshole would not take that. That's a good point. It's not meant to stretch that big. With a lot of pain, that vagina does that shit. Yeah, but it's meant to. And a lot of screaming. But they jam quite quite a quite

a bit in that but that's because there's an there's an inside force coming out that you can't stop you're going i'm gonna put this big thing in my ass you gotta really work it man that's great and i'll hear like guys will be in like visiting rooms and someone will pass them shit and they like just kind of casually put their hand down their pants and quickly jam something up their ass and i'm like how do you no fucking deep breath okay i'm gonna do it now i'm gonna do now okay all right wait wait no okay no take two take two take two hold on wait i gotta do i only got half i breathe in or breathe out like no these guys just whoop fucking right up the ass so i'm impressed with that on cops too when they

when these dudes get pulled over so how they get it in there fucking right now right up their ass it's pretty impressive i guess that's what the threat of freedom will do to you i like how fucking anal elasticity i say is pretty impressive it really is not the word i'm looking for i don't think but it's pretty anyway uh this guy while doing this went up and up in status in the uh in the indian brotherhood which is a prison gang sure so that's he became a big member of that and uh they're pretty apparently known as a pretty fucking violent group i'm sure they're a badass group as most prison gangs are most prison gangs aren't known for reading to children they're known for their meals on wheels program this prison gang and known for their outreach to illiterate children right and uh small children

that have been just just horribly infected with hiv in africa they're very into that also big hearts on these guys big hearts on this prison gang i gotta tell you something here uh so no these were pretty goddamn organized here uh the the uh bad in Oklahoma with the gangs that opposing gang members' visitors knew that Saturday was this gang's day. Wow. So the visitors didn't cross. That's how fucking deep in the gang culture it was, whether it was Mexican gangs or the Aryan Brotherhood or the fucking... Do you got to fight an Indian guy walking in when you're a white guy if you're visiting a friend? Beats the shit out of me.

I don't know. Indian wives and white wives just boxing it out? I guess so. And a Mexican chick coming and jumping on. And I don't know what's going on. But yeah. So yeah, they were dealt a lot of drugs, obviously, in jail. So, yeah, they were dealt a lot of drugs, obviously, in jail.

So he was, I guess, Phillips was a big into recruiting, the recruiting of people in jail. Like, that was his thing. If anybody who was a native, he would fucking try to bring them into the fold and get them to put something up their ass and take it into prison here. So when this guy found Tyner, who at this point is 240 fucking pounds. My Christ. And stocky and knows how to fight and, you know, seems like a pretty badass dude. He sees him and goes, well, shit, if I'm going to have any kind of drug thing going, this is an enforcer right here. This is a dude who can fucking do my bidding for me. So and he's just completely floating.

You know, he's out there. Tyner's got nowhere to be. He's got nothing. He's got nowhere to be. He's going for welding jobs in Arkansas for two months. He doesn't know what he's doing there. Tyner's a mess. He's got nowhere to be. He's got nothing. He's got nowhere to be. He's going for, you know, welding jobs in Arkansas for two months. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's broke also. So, you know, he ends up hooking up with Denny Phillips.

And his friend's mother, that Cindy David from earlier, said, quote, Bird was nomadic. He never really put roots down, moving from his father's house to his mother's. They separated when he was young. He always wanted a family. So he never really has, like, yeah, he's always moving. He's always here and there. He's very fluid here. Now, Phillips is known around here as a guy that you probably shouldn't mess around with.

Jason Nicholson, the guy who got David Tyner the MMA fights, warned tyner about hanging out with denny phillips really yeah he said that this dude's dangerous and uh you know he shouldn't fucking hook up with him this dude's gonna get you in trouble and shit like that and uh but david said no we're really friends and we're just buddies and you know we're both fucking cherokees and we we get along and we're talking about fighting and yeah he's not gonna get me in any trouble uh so uh this nicholson tells him quote you go into prison and you come out following the same rules uh but i wasn't going to dictate who his friends were so he basically said i knew this guy was trouble but what the fuck am i going to say he's a 30 year old man 28 year old man i'm going to tell him who to

hang out with so that's what ends up happening uh finally uh this happens over the course of 2008 and into 2009 by spring of 2009 uh david quits his job as a welder done that's ready to quit and ready to uh uh get in full-time drug deal in here and all this type of shit stop lucrative that shit is the lucrative yeah he's gonna make money finally for some at some point in his life here he stops hanging out with all of his friends that he always used to hang out with he just he's not around anymore uh one his girlfriend at the time came home one day and the way she put it quote saw a bunch of saw several indians sitting in her living room which was not a normal thing we just have a bunch of dudes over just sitting around uh you know they're all monochromatic we'll say just you know it's the same people like this is weird like he usually

has a bunch of different friends and it's not like just like eight indian dudes it's you know it's two white guys and a black guy and fucking this guy and just a bunch of different dudes so uh it's really weird here uh they were all there and they were all cutting each other's hair prison style buzz cut style like they were all like having a prison hair party weird uh super weird uh he said uh uh it was he was in barber school at that point and this was homework for barber school is what he said shaving heads shaving heads and different buzz cuts seems like cheating different well different types of cuts and fades and shit like that i guess that's that's what you're supposed

to do give a bunch of haircuts and then you take pictures or some shit i guess and so uh he said that uh at this point they said he dyed a stripe into his hair just to practice dyeing shit. This obviously is not paying the bills. You know, he's living with this woman and going to barber school

and not making any money. And giving free haircuts. Yes, and giving free haircuts here. He started to work as a cook at this point at a place called Boomerangs, but he would,

whenever he's not working, he was hanging out with denny phillips and then he'd not work half the time and still go hang out with denny phillips so it's you know it's one of those deals where he is now 30 and has zero direction he's got zero direction he's got uh a bunch of kids he's a couple of kids and uh responsibilities and things like that and uh he's a mess yeah Yeah. So 2009 comes around. David's introduced by Denny Phillips to a guy named Casey Barrientos.

He's known as Diablo, which is the devil, which is if you're in the drug business and everyone knows you as Diablo, you're probably a badass. It's just one of those things. They don't hand that nickname out lightly. No, that one's coveted.

Probably coveted, yeah. So apparently Phillips had met Casey while they were in the joint together. So, you know, that's always a good matchup. Yeah. Yeah. This guy, Casey Barrientos, had just been paroled after doing time for a bunch of drug offenses and a drive-by shooting from earlier in the 2000s, which is nice here. He is affiliated with a Mexican gang,

this guy called the Southside Locos. That makes sense, I guess. You don't want to give an Indian fellow the name Diablo. No, no, no. He's a barrientos. He's a Mexican. Generally a Mexican guy. Yeah, generally, yeah.

Casey, though, is his first name, which is interesting. Yeah, anyway. White mom. Yeah, yeah. Everyone said you could look at him and go, this dude's a fucking menace he had devil horns tattooed on his forehead there you go so you know what i'm saying oh boy if a guy has devil horns tattooed on his forehead he has checked the fuck out of society he's checked out he said i'm never gonna go to a girl's house to meet her parents and say oh oh, no,

I'm a great guy and I'm going to take care of everything. Every job I'm going to have is going to have a baseball cap and a fucking headset. It's going to have to because this is super weird. Yeah, this is not great. So Barry Antos just got out of prison. He's on parole and he's still just immediately back into the drug game. He lives in Oklahoma City and he would have weed, coke, meth, everything

passed along. He had a whole little system that he would do. He would send Phillips and Tyner to take drugs to Tulsa or Grand Lake to meet other people and kind of use them as runners, basically. That's what you want.

You have a distribution network. Phillips is a drug guy. Tyner's the muscle, so nobody robs Phillips. That's how it works. So they don't come in and just take it from Phillips. He's a 165-pound guy. There's no Omar. No Omar here.

There's no Oklahoma Omar. Okay, Omar does not exist. Well, Omar would have robbed them, no problem. He would have had something in the road to make them stop and be like what the fuck is that then he would have popped out from behind like a fucking tumbleweed with a yeah with a shotgun they'd have heard farmer and the dell being whistled through the plains and like what's that and barry comes out of a tumbleweed i robbed drug dealers yeah give it up motherfucker and they'd be like what the fuck how'd you do that then he'd take their car they got cantaloupe blasts what are they

pumpkin pumpkins pumpkin balls cantaloupe blasts. What are they? Pumpkin. Pumpkins. Yeah, pumpkin balls. Cantaloupes, whatever. Pumpkin balls. Same thing. He says, yeah, cantaloupe balls. Well, I could see that, like a melon baller. That's where I was going with it.

I get you. I get you. So, yeah, they do that. Phillips told Tyner at this point that Diablo there, Barrientos, needs a bodyguard because threats have been made against his life and that he was telling him Tyner's up for this job to be bodyguard. So Tyner feels important at this point now. He gets paid to be a bodyguard.

He gets little cuts here and there of drug deals. He starts to get, you know, starts to get a little bit of pay, a little bit of paid too. He starts to get paid. He's starting to make himself into this group he says but like him and denny would do the same things and uh he was like the same they do the same thing in a drug deal they both drop something off or they both do something else and uh he felt like him and denny were doing equal work but denny would always have uh so much money he couldn't even fit it in his pockets and and

david just didn't yeah he just didn't have that much money so he's even fit it in his pockets and David just didn't. He just didn't have that much money so he's like, I don't like that. I don't know what's happening there. Denny ends up getting his MMA fight. He fights May 30th, 2009. This is FCF 32. David's first fight was 6. Now we're up to 32.

He fights Tyler Burns who is a 3-1 career fighter and Denny loses and he's that's his whole career oh and one so that's that drug dealing pays better he went back to drug dealers oh that's right never mind it's a lot less a lot yeah you get punched isn't that weird safer than drug dealing or less safe than drug dealing mma uh so uh at this point, Tyner starts to notice that he doesn't think that Barry Entos is giving him as many drugs to sell as he should. So he is not making as much money.

He's saying, and he's watching Phillips make trips back and forth to Oklahoma city, you know, doing all these drug deals. And he's like, I'm getting kind of, kind of froze out here. Give me a shift too.

Yeah. I'll tell you. That's what I mean. He's like, Hey, I'll work overtime, man. I gave you my availability. He's holding his union card. card like do i punch in or what man it's like on the wire season two never mind so anyway uh uh they said that barrientos had a he basically had like his house was like a big drug dealer's house i mean

stacks of money everywhere he had you know type of guy that would have 100 grand on the coffee table. Really? And dudes with guns just standing out there. Oh, man. And naked women walking around. I'm in. Like a fucking, like a movie. He saw movies and was like, oh, that's how you're supposed to operate.

I got it. You stand there with a machine gun. You take all your clothes off, wander around, put that cash out on the table, like big giant like things of weed everywhere that they were just for, you know. I get the gist of this job. Yeah, I mean, it sounds great. Don't get me wrong, but that doesn't last forever, usually. Otherwise, everyone would do that.

It'd be great. So one day here, August of 2009, this is a weird summer, too. He has some, Denny has some weird, or not Denny, David has some weird things he does this summer like at one point he reconnects with his old wrestling buddies this summer uh because he has less drug dealing to do yeah so he does that he's got all kinds of time he's got time so he hangs out with his like you know friends from high school that wrestled he goes out on a boat and goes fishing and shit like that and they just drink and kind of act like normal dudes do like

a normal 30 year old dudes who hanging out with their old friends and reminiscing type of shit uh you know he uh he's he gave that austin david guy that we talked about earlier whose mom keeps talking about him he gave him a turquoise ring set in a bear's claw uh and claimed that it uh that his grandfather who was a medicine man had blessed it oh jesus. Now, you can believe that if you don't. He brought it at a gas station. I'm sure he did. Yeah, somewhere in between.

He hit up the giant. Yeah, and there's a turquoise jewelry stand there, like all over Arizona and the Southwest. It was a QT, right. Drive through New Mexico. It's all turquoise. Here's the impulse buy at the QT. Now, you can believe it if you want.

You can believe that this is real, but he also told this guy at one point that his grandfather once turned into an owl uh my god took full flight as an owl and then came back and uh uh transformed back into a person and was naked because obviously he wasn't going to have like khakis on while he was flying around i assume they were they fell off when he turned into an owl. I don't know. He was naked.

You can turn him into feathers, but you can't turn him back into cotton. That's the trick. I feel like they found him naked on the sidewalk. He fell asleep, and they were like, why is your dick out? And he was like, I turned into an owl. That was an owl. He missed it. I flew.

Did you see it? I flew the planes, and then I landed, and it's so weird. Now I have no clothes on. And they were no grandpa that shit ain't gonna happen come on buddy no so in recovery there's no way that this is just a drunk naked man yeah this is this is he was an owl yeah uh well shit uh so this did they buy that story is that what the guy's saying he's like yeah yeah totally yeah they bought it yeah that's okay sure why not if he's a medicine man he might as well be an owl bless this ring i'm yeah i'll never take owl man blessed it well i'm fucking set then for life

uh even at this point david talked about moving to norman oklahoma where his friend austin david was uh to have to to be roommates with him. So he's really talking about sort of a normal existence and kind of edging away from the drug dealing. Then in August 2009, David finds Denny Phillips at a grocery store in a grocery store parking lot and pulls up next to him. Now, Phillips has a girlfriend, a woman namedareen sanders who's sitting in the passenger seat uh and she says that tyner uh pulls up and complains he's pulling up to denny to complain to him he's complaining he wants more he's complaining he needs more you know he needs more drugs he needs more of this he needs more of that he's like you have all this fucking money i

see you doing all these deals and all this money i have bills to pay our kids to support and i'm getting shit yeah help me out here uh he said you know i'm working hard and uh basically what tyner is doing is complaining that he thinks barrientos is being greedy and you know not spreading it around like he should so phillips uh could take this one of two ways he could be like all right well i don't know what to tell you that's your fucking problem or he could be like cool yeah you're right and then go tell barrientos on him i'll talk to the boss i'll talk to the boss in a good way or a bad he could say hey david's a good dude we need to give him more or he could be like hey this dude's talking shit about you we should fuck him up one or the other or the weirdest one that you wouldn't expect him

to say he could say quote let's do something about it which is what denny phillips says let's do something about it and so tyner says let's do it then that's that's what this woman heard in the car just that much let's do something about it well let's do it then and that was the end of the conversation so that's uh that's eerie that's eerie yeah uh also too it's super weird uh when he's hanging out with his wrestling buddies uh he would start to tell them stories about the Indian mafia, which, uh, no,

uh, his friend, not a real thing. Yeah. They're called casino owners. Yeah. It's like, it's,

it's really pretty above board. It's really fucking boring too. They don't like kill anybody. It's just super fucking boring. They just tell you to stay out of the poker pit. They're really just, you could just call them businessmen. That's pretty much,

I mean, any business is technically a mafia, I guess, but they're just businessmen that's that's all there's looking djs by the pool that's all yeah his friend austin david here would laugh at him when he would talk about the indian mafia and be like oh this guy's fucking nuts like later on he explained that his quote david and his tall tales that's all it was was just this fucking guy and his tall tales like who cares you know was, was just this fucking guy and his tall tales. Like, who cares? You know, nothing. The other part that we're glazing over right now is they've made a plan to eliminate Diablo. Is that Diablo?

Well, they've decided to do something about it. They're going to confront a man named Diablo with horns on his fucking forehead. They're going to confront the devil that they don't like his business practices. You better bring a fiddle. I don't think that's the only way you're winning. They're going to leave him a bad Yelp review and really take his whole empire down. So during the summer also, Tyler and his, or Tyler, Tyner here and his girlfriend separate. They separate mainly because she didn't like Denny Phillips and that he was always out with Denny Phillips and also that she didn't think David was being faithful to her,

which he wasn't because he was out fucking around with Denny Phillips. He's a drug dealer. Yeah, he's screwing whatever's around. So apparently someone specifically, though, he was hooked up with while he was attending the Barber College there. He met a woman named Samantha Stanton, and these two end up moving into the only apartment complex in selena which is pretty fucking interesting one apartment complex it's a

converted motel we've seen those phoenix has a million of these converted motel six apartment complexes where they're fucking awful a lot of them are for sober living A lot of them are for sober living. A lot of them are for military vets that don't have any other way. Yeah, they do have those. But then a huge portion of them... I knew people that have lived in those and it was just all trash. Horrible.

It was just the fucking trashiest people and it was like 400 bucks a month for a furnished hole. It's a Motel 6 room. they didn't even take the furniture out from the motel no they didn't it was the same it was hotel furniture and it had that fucking air conditioner heater thing in the wall on the floor that they all have god damn terrible uh so he meets while he's there he meets his Samantha Stanton. They move into the only, this is a, Jesus, converted motel here. It's a short drive to where Denny Phillips lives also. So that's a good thing for him.

It's kind of a good location. A good commute to work. Yeah, absolutely. He stops going to barber school completely. So at this point, while he's making his treks to Oklahoma City, Barry Entos even had a bedroom for Tyner in his house because he goes back and forth so much that if he's been driving, he's tired or whatever, he could crash there.

EG hours and shit. Yeah, that's exactly right. He's like, I got to get off the road, man. You can't get pulled over. I got to log it. I got to put it in the log. DPS checks and logs are fucked. What am I supposed to do?

I'm totally fucked here. So he would go and visit his uh his daughter also and stanton and then uh you know all that sort of shit his girlfriend said they always had there was always like bullets and knives all around their apartment in selena which is a weird thing uh so she accompanied tyner a few times to oklahoma city and she noticed that everyone there gave him a different nickname uh everyone there gave him a different nickname. Everyone there called him Hooligan. Everyone called him Hooligan, and then right around this time, he gets a giant tattoo across his chest that says Hooligan.

She's like, is that like your name now? Like, everybody knows you as Bird, and you're David, and now you're Hooligan. You're a soccer fan. Sure, why not? you're a hooligan you're a soccer fan sure why not uh so uh everyone like that he knew outside of this little drug crew still called him bird uh but all of them didn't know anything about bird they all called him hooligan so he had these different identities here uh his girlfriend was also uh she was there denny phillips girlfriend heard a couple more conversations that they had about barrientos uh they i guess Barrientos relocated to a brick house

that was in Oklahoma City on Southwest 56th Street. And I guess a guy, a friend of his, named Jose Fernando Fierro, who's 30 years old at this point, and we'll talk about him. He had owned the house, or he was leasing this house, and this Barrientos took over the lease payments from him and just moved in here. Now, Phillip's girlfriend, she thought that – she said she thought of Barrientos as very generous, would pay his lieutenants really well, would like – you know, they'd go out to do work, and he'd, like, give them extra money and be like, here, why don't you get yourself something to eat afterwards. Like, he'd give them gas and food money and shit like that. Like, he'd like give them extra money be like here why don't we get yourself something to eat afterwards like you give them gas and food money and shit like that like you throw them an extra hundred bucks uh he'd pay you know if they if they needed rent money or something extra he

tossed some extra money and never really made a big deal out of it uh but she said that tyner was the only one who was really adamant that he was being screwed out of money but he was really adamant about it to the point where phillips kind of to go, you know, kind of go along with it. They start making a plan how they're going to get some money here. They start thinking about it and they're like, all right, Barry Antos is always on painkillers. Yeah.

Doing a lot of pills. So you get him at night when he's comfortable and on a bunch of pills, he's going to be chill. Hell yeah. And his guard's going to be down. He's going to doze off. Yeah, absolutely.

Robbery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it, that's what that's what it is uh so they come up with a plan where phillips tells uh barrientos that tyner is complaining about his pay okay this is all on purpose they they plan to do this he's gonna say he's complaining about his pay and uh this is what he's they're trying to get him to basically fire Tyner and say, fuck you, then don't do my shit anymore.

OK, so they and they also later. It's it's it's weird, too. They also later claim that Barry Entos owes them thirty thousand dollars for drugs and a car that they got in a price. They sold him a car and sold him some drugs and he didn't pay him the thirty thousand dollars. They're trying to figure that out. So anyway, they get Tyner fired here, and they discuss this all in front of Denny Phillips' girlfriend, by the way. They plan out how they're going to rob this guy that way. A bad drug dealer named Diablo.

Named Diablo. How are we going to rob him? And let's just bring this. She can hear this. It's fine. It's all right. Wow. Now, they had reason to trust her.

They said Tyner knew her since she was four years old. They've known each other forever, since preschool. So they, and he's older than her. He babysat her when she was little, like shit like that. Phillips knew her father, who was also a member of the Indian Brotherhood gang. Right. So, you know, it's a, they all know each brotherhood gang right so you know it's a they all know each other intertwined that's why they feel comfortable they feel like her father's a

gang member like so they're you know like denny so they feel comfortable that she's not going to be a rat basically uh so uh at one point her father and and denny escaped the maize county jail together what so yeah they escaped jail together years back so you know it's funny that he'd be like hey you know what honey i think he's a good guy we County jail together. What? So, yeah, they escaped jail together years back. So, you know, it's funny that he'd be like, hey, you know what, honey? I think he's a good guy. We escaped jail together. I think you guys would really, who are you setting your daughter up with?

Yeah, you have my blessings. He had my back and we escaped from jail. Jesus Christ, man. She said that basically they drive around talking about it. They drive, Phillips had a white Pontiac Grand Prix and they'd offer, you know, they drive around smoking weed around talking about it. They drive. Phillips had a white Pontiac Grand Prix, and they'd drive around smoking weed and talking about it, the whole setup here. They offer her, Sanders, $10,000 to be the getaway driver. They do there. This is what they knew that Barrientos kept $10,000 cash in a safe for bail money.

He had an always $10,000 bail fund in cash in a safe. So they say, we know he's got $10, so that'll be we'll give that to her at least that there's at least that that'll be her money uh philip said to tyner quote if we're going to do this then we have to do it we can't just talk about it and tyner told him quote man i'm real you know i'm real you know i'll do it so uh the plan was according to to the Sanders woman, that Denny would be the one to kill Diablo. Basically, Tyner said that they can't leave any witnesses behind. Also, anybody else there has got to go, too. So at this point, too, Phillips is now more into it than Tyner is, which is crazy.

Phillips is all into it. He promises Tyner a prospect patch into the end of the brotherhood for doing this too uh because they're going to say that he's a mexican mafia guy or mexican uh gang member and they they're going to try to get him a patch for this he's going to try to get him in the game he's going to start now yeah this is he's going to try to get into the gang it's initiation here uh so uh uh yeah this is he's gonna get his tattoo and all that shit so uh uh he said that if because normally this is for convicts this whole thing and he said but if tyner were to do something really big like this that philip said he would vouch for him and get

them to to patch him in and get him in the gang here i don't know that that wasn't mentioned i'm probably yeah i think we brought that up once before didn't we i want to say we did with an indian gang you're like is that a dream catcher tattoo i think it was a i think it was a small town murder basic white bitches all over and then the indian and then they just get it on their forehead instead or like on their cheek under their eye yeah some shit like that so uh yeah this, this woman, basically, she was just like, she didn't know what to do. Tyner's girlfriend pleaded with him to not do this. And he said that he just wanted to get away. He wanted to do this.

He needed it. He ends up telling his girlfriend, look, this isn't for you. You should go. She wanted to be a writer. So he tells her, you should go away and go be a writer because this isn't for you then because this is my life. And now that you know all about this. Yeah, this isn't you should go away and go be a writer because this isn't for you then. Because this is my life. Now that you know all about this. This isn't my life.

Yeah. Go write a book about it. This will be interesting as shit. So she did. She leaves. She leaves in September 2009 and just takes off and goes away. Now, October 2009, Tyner tells a friend of him that he's quitting his job as a bodyguard for Barrientos and going back to school. It's at this point that this woman notices he has a new tattoo on his forearm, too,

which is a different tattoo that she doesn't recognize or some shit like that. So she's wondering about that. Now, at this point, Barrientos has met a girl. Barrientos has met a woman here. So we'll talk about barrientos for a second uh well yeah let's let's talk about this here uh uh we'll talk about a woman named jennifer ermie uh her family all thought she was a waitress but she was actually a stripper she's actually stripping uh she is from a well-off family actually but she was actually a stripper hell yeah she's actually stripping uh she is from a well-off family actually but she doesn't like let them know what she's doing uh at one point apparently she uh she came home and found her boyfriend hooking up with her roommate which is bad so

she got her own apartment and then hooked up with her roommate's ex as revenge you know that goes and that's diablo oh okay no no uh so uh yeah no it is diablo this guy the guy that she hooks up i thought you meant the other guy yeah it is diablo here uh so uh but this guy has a lot of money i'm not the normal guy that she goes out with she did it just to piss her off but then the guy treats her nice he's got a lot of money he buys her nice things he's got a shitload of coke around for her to do if you're into coke you'll really do a lot to fucking be around coke it's just one of those things here uh so she was into coke and was into that uh she hung out with another woman here named uh millie barrera who's a 24 year old woman she's originally from peru uh she hangs out with

uh with ermie and they go out to clubs and shit like that she works like retail jobs you know works the verizon store and you know the mall and shit like that uh she was pregnant at this point uh and uh uh gotten hooked up with somebody but isn't like uh married to them or anything she's pregnant but she still likes to go out and party and all that sort of shit. So one November night, she's 12 weeks pregnant. She tells her friend that she's going to go meet someone who let people party at his house. And that's Barry Entos because he has big parties over there. You know, where naked women walk around.

Hell yeah. So early morning hours of November 9th, 2009, Barrientos and Fierro, this is the guy who owns the house or rents the leases in his name that Barrientos has his house, this Fierro guy. They drove to a Henry Hudson's bar and they meet these two women. They meet Ernie and Barrera. They do some shots for a while and all that sort of shit. uh they they do some shots for a while and all that sort of shit uh about quarter to two in the morning fiero leaves uh he heads home while barrientos takes the two women in in ermy's in ermy's car and uh he tells fiero that they're going to the strip club that ermy works at which is called center phones so they're gonna go party it's 2 a.m he's taking off there he's taking these two girls to go party at the strip club yeah so they're going there now uh later on uh uh in the night barrera the girl from

peru that's friends with ermie she uh calls an old boyfriend of hers and he said she was drunk and said she was uncomfortable around the people who were at the strip club and that uh he said he let the first call go to voicemail but then he listened to it and was like holy shit this is weird so he called her back uh and he spoke with her and he ended up going to the club to go pick her up but by the time he got there she was gone uh barrera so he didn't know where she was uh now ferreira ferreiro uh fiero i'm sorry fiero guy that leases the house, he gets a call on the way home from a woman who's a friend of his named Brooke Phillips.

No relation to Denny Phillips. You might know who Brooke Phillips is, actually. Wilson? Brooke Phillips, yes. Brooke Phillips, do you remember the Cat House HBO documentary? Brooke was one of the prostitutes on the Cat House documentary. All right. Very young, tall, thin, blonde, short hair.

You'd know her if you tattooed a bunch of tattoos down her arm. She's very distinctive. You'd know her if you saw her. She would be the one that you would be into, probably. All right. Because she's got a bunch of tats and shit. But yeah, she was on that show for seasons. I mean, she was one of Dennis Hoff's girlfriends.

Okay, then I definitely know who she is. You'll know who she is. If you look her up, Brooke Phillips, on your phone right now, you'll know who she is here. So she calls Fiero up asking for cocaine. She says, you got any cocaine? He had met her out in the clubs and even did had her dance at some private bachelor parties that he had done back in the day when she used to live in Oklahoma. But she has moved away from Oklahoma and just now come back,

and he hasn't seen her in a few years. So this is all like, Jesus, you're back in town, and it's the middle of the night, and you want Coke? Sure, what the fuck? So Fiero drives to a house where he finds Brooke outside

arguing with a guy that he doesn't know. It's definitely not Dennis Hoff. Definitely not Dennis Hoff. He would know. He'd go, that big guy from the Cat House documentary. It's definitely not Dennis Hoff. Definitely not Dennis Hoff. He would know. He'd go, that big guy from the Cat House documentary. He's the nicest person on earth. He's a dickhead. Have you ever listened to him talk?

He's a fucking asshole. I did. He was so nice to me. He's a lunatic. Yeah, listen to his politics for two seconds. Oh, I don't want to hear it for a second. He was running for fucking shit. He won after he died.

Yeah, exactly. He's a fucking idiot. That shows how dumb people are. He was so nice yeah he's a fucking he's a fucking salesman yeah he's of course he's nice to you vagina yeah he's an awful person brought me a prostitute as like as like uh uh hello nice to meet you would you like to meet my friend yeah i was like no thanks dude i'm married but that was an awfully generous appreciate it he brought me a woman that's very nice of him because he was coming to see a tell well he's a real fucking douche and wait till you hear what he says later too he's an idiot this guy so brooke phillips here uh she is arguing uh she ends up jumping into fiero's vehicle

and snorting some coke off a cd case right right there. Yeah, they still had CDs in the car. That's interesting. So, yeah, she snorts some coke off a CD case. By the way, we'll talk about Brooke in a minute here. She shouldn't be snorting coke off a CD case right now. We'll talk about that. Oh, no. Now, after this, she just leaves in Fiero's car,

and she says she'll pick her own car up in the morning but she doesn't she doesn't want it's a little it's a little pontiac fiero so uh she doesn't want to deal with this guy she's fucking arguing with here so uh this brooke knows all these knows the girls too because she danced in some of the same clubs as ermie barrientos girlfriend so they all kind of know each other uh brooke had a daughter at age 16 so she's supporting a six-year-old at this point uh they said that uh she would disappear her friend said she would disappear disappear for weeks at a time and they didn't know where she went that's when she was going to the moonlight bunny ranch to yeah she'd do a few weeks out there make

a bunch of money and come home and whatever uh so that's the uh the what is it called the moonlight bunny ranch in nevada there the cat house on hbo so now that we know who these people are uh november 9th 2009 that's this day now that mourn that was all the over overnight on the 8th okay all this was going on november 9th there's a huge house fire in Oklahoma City. Authorities get there, and they find four dead people inside of a house fire. And they assume at first that this house fire, it's the middle of the night, and so they just assume this was a house fire started in the night and overtook everybody, is what they assume. Of course, then they get into it a little further,

and they see that all four victims were both shot and stabbed, and the blaze seems very intentional. So now it's a little different at this point. Usually people don't shoot, stab themselves, and start a fire accidentally. So that's a different type of thing here. So the Oklahoma police master sergeant here says that it's a guy named Gary Knight. He tells the news that they've established a relationship between David Tyner and at least one of the victims. But yet don't yet have a motive for it. There's also an eyewitness to this whole thing, a sole survivor of the house who is Fiero.

Oh, and he identifies Tyner as a guy that they need to talk to. OK, let's find out what the fuck happened here, because police at this point, they don't think Tyner has acted alone. Yet they haven't formally charged him or anybody else. They don't know what's going on. They believe this is a drug beef slaying because this is Barry Entos house. And he is one of the dead people is Barry Entos. And we'll talk about this. They got Diablo.

They sent him straight to hell. Straight to hell. They burned him straight to hell. So an arson investigator in his science. This is the stick with me. I'm sorry about scientific jargon. I hate. But when it's given from the fire investigator, it's kind of to use he said quote they were totally burned up so i don't know if that's too deep like that's the

fire delete a fire investigator with the oklahoma city fire department that's his his professional statement on the on the scene quote they were totally burned up so i appreciate that from him that's very nice very technical i said you got to really parse through it but uh the bodies were burned so badly that one of the fire people a major alan deaton was unsure at first if photographs were even of the victims when he saw the photographs that's what he said he said quote at first glance it may just look like charred debris wow he said later quote he would look at the guy next to him and said, is that a leg? Is that an arm?

And the investigator would look at it real close and go, yeah, I think that's an arm. They couldn't even tell in the photos what was what. That's how burnt everybody was. The people who are dead in this house are Casey, Casey Berrientos, Jennifer Lynn Ermey, his girlfriend, Millie Barrera, the 12 week pregnant girl there. And also Brooke Phillips ends up there. The cat house girl who, oh, by the way, is pregnant. She's pregnant also.

She's also been quite pregnant. As a matter of fact. Yeah. So she had returned home. She'd returned home to have the baby and to you know super pregnant she's pretty pregnant yeah not like right then but she'd return home to be there for a couple months and then have the baby that's what she was uh she was gonna have uh have it there uh what what the fuck happened is a pretty obvious question so how did four people end up shot

stabbed and burned i guess six really six that's Six. That's what the charging documents are going to say later. Well, I guess Fierro drove Brooke back to Berrientos' house, where he had a key, and he could come and go as he pleased. Because it was fucking his house. And he was on the lease. So Fierro said that Brooke requested that he take a shower, and then they could have sex. She said, well, you take a shower so we could have sex, is the bunny ranch habit it's their way that's what they did yeah they would make the guys wash i watched the damn show sure she also snorted a bunch more cocaine they were alone for about 45 minutes before fierro heard somebody knocking and whistling at the door

he didn't want to answer the door because he said that barrientos always told him when someone was coming over and he hadn't heard that someone was coming over so he was like i don't really want to get this also his dick's out and his dick's out brooke said will you just get the fucking door so they stop so we can continue to fucking snort coke please because that's what they were doing you know she insisted he opened the door and i assume that's why yeah hey we're fucking in coke snorting here i don't want to have somebody going yoo-hoo at the door every five seconds here so he opens the door and tyner is there yeah it's david tyner uh now uh uh they went past they uh there's an electronic sensor for tolls at samantha on samantha stanton's has a pass for that that he has that uh he says he get off they got off the turnpike in Oklahoma City at 3.49 a.m., so they have him going into there.

And Stanton said she last saw Tyner at 11 o'clock at night, and then so he was gone, whatever. So apparently Fierro spent about a half hour just talking with Tyner, fucking around. They knew each other from helping Barrientos move, and they're both in kind of the same crew. They run in the same circle, so they're just bullshitting back and forth uh they had a couple drinks fucked around uh tyner asked when barrientos might be coming back and uh fiero said pretty soon you know uh

everything's closing now it's like 4 a.m so he's not going to be out much longer he should be home from the strip club here uh fiero introduced tyner to brooke uh there and then uh they all went back into the bedroom and he invited uh tyner to hang out and just wait for barrientos there he's like you're welcome to chill and fucking whatever you know i'm just gonna do some coke and bang this pregnant prostitute it's fine just normal to do so uh that's cool so uh keep yacking i'll be over here yeah yeah you know how that goes so fieroiero left the living room at one point, and as he does, he hears Tyner on his cell phone telling somebody on the other end that the only people in the house were Fiero and his girlfriend.

So they had a few drinks after that, though, and this guy, Fiero, never thought twice about it. He might have thought that he was there to get something from Berrientos, and he wasn't there. So he was saying, hey, I've got to hang for a while. He's not here. The only people here are these people. So he wasn't thinking a big deal about it.

So Fierro and Brooke are back in the bedroom by themselves after a while, and Barrientos ends up arriving. It's about a half hour later. Fierro was in there. He hears female voices. He figured that was Ermi and Barrera, you know, there. So he's like, I understand that. Brooke goes out to say hello to them because she works with Army. She knows these girls.

Fiero stayed behind. He doesn't feel like fucking dealing with the cacophony of drunk people coming into the living room. He's finished. He's tired. Yeah, he's like, I'm cool. Do whatever you want. He's got to have that coke tug. Yeah, that's the other thing.

He said he heard them turn music on and then people were talking in chat and so just sounded like they were having yeah a little little fuck around session out there so fierro stays in the back room uh while there's out there is david tyner barrientos uh brooke phillips ermie and baram barera they're all in the living room uh tyner uh at this point uh says that he he called back uh he called denny phillips at this point and told him that barrientos was there at that point tyner excused himself to go to the bathroom okay he makes a phone call while they're all in the living room then gets up and goes to the bathroom a minute later not even while Tyner's in the bathroom, two more men show up here. These guys, Jesus Christ.

Their names, first of all. One of the guys' last names is Hog Shooter. Hell yeah. That's a legit legal last name. That is a legal last name, yeah. These two, we'll get into them in a minute, who they are and everything. But for the time being, we'll just stick in the story. Hog Shooter and and cochran are

their last names okay they enter the house at this point i thought he said cochran yeah cochran and hog shooter are coming in it's really bad that he has the word cock in his in his name this guy's hog shooter i i'm like really you two are gonna work together that's your that's your squad it's like a porn movie yeah so they come out and they start shooting at people basically uh uh uh that's that's what uh tyner happened that's what happens later on okay now before that uh uh now what's fiero fiero's in another room in the back so he hears this all going on his view he just hears he hears barrientos talking you you know, party time, talking normal. And then all of a sudden he hears Barrientos tone, get real serious.

And he hears him say, oh, what the fuck? Which is not like what was going on. So Fierro said before he could even get up, he heard gunshots ring out. And that was Hog Shooter and Cochran there coming in. And one of the bullets even went through the bedroom door where he was at. So he even like was like, oh, oh shit a bullet came into the room uh now tyner walked out of the room out of the bathroom while this was all going on and barrientos was right there in front of him so barrientos had a knife at this point and he was like well i guess it's on uh barrientos comes at him with the knife and tyner shoots and kills Barry Entos right there.

Then he goes over and shoots Ernie and Barrera, the two girls to witnesses, shoots them. At this point, Tyner and sees Hog Shooter and Cochran inside and they all start looking for cash and drugs. They shot that they shot these three. And now it's time to look for cash and drugs. They're just they're rifling the garage. A little while later, Tyner said he heard Hog Shooter and Cochran firing their pistols, and it was at Fiero, who was fleeing the door through the garage. That's what he says, but Fiero has a different account of it.

Fiero says he looked around. He saw the gunshot through the door. He said the living room was where everybody was, so he didn't want to do that. The other door led to the kitchen, and he could get out through there. So he ran out there, no shirt, no shoes, you know, dick wet.

All the service. You know how that goes. Sprints through the kitchen into the garage and hit the button to open up the garage door. Oh, God, that must have been the longest wait ever. So as he's running, he says he turned and saw Tyner chasing him. He also saw a white Pontiac Grand Prix parked in the driveway, which is Denny Phillips' car, as we know. And at this point, he said tyner was yelling to him hey

dog come back i'm not gonna fuck with you i'm not gonna fuck with you like he's like you're not a part of this right like you're cool you can whatever uh so uh yeah he was like um i don't know you know did he keep running uh yeah so no he kept fucking running he He ran and ran. He continued to run, and he ended up smashing into a horse that a neighbor had. He ran into a horse in the dark in a neighbor's yard. He said that he was chased on foot by Tyner. He said he eventually hid underneath a tree and waited for 45 minutes. He said while he was waiting, he started smelling smoke, and Fierro then ran to another house, a relative that lived several blocks away, and hid out there but didn't call the cops.

He's also got a bullet wound in his foot. We'll find out. He's shot, too. He's shot, too. So then Tyner comes back to the home and finds Hogshooter and Cochran holding bloody knives. Oh, boy. Tyner at this point said, this is brutal said he saw brooke phillips laying on the floor with uh several gunshot and stab wounds in her uh brooke phillips apparently was noticeably

pregnant too i mean this is not she's not 12 weeks pregnant she's noticeably pregnant they said uh it was known that she begged for her life also a pregnant woman begging for her life uh one of the defendants here later on will be the defendants one of these assholes they put a gun in her face and shot her through the eye socket wow while she was begging for her life and then shot her five more times and apparently she still was alive and so they uh burned her oh jesus they burned her alive they burned her uh yeah she was burned so badly that's where the source of the fire that she uh had to be identified through dental records and the remains

of a couple distinct tattoos they couldn't tell even what she was never mind who she was uh now the other guys climbed up a tree we told you that here uh so the uh the way they put it uh barrientos took four shots uh to the torso one to the head uh they think millie died barrera was died second uh uh she was shot in the back and it's like she was trying to run away um and uh yeah so this is after then we had the uh chase she chases uh he chases fiero there uh uh our uh our ermy also we haven't talked about her yet ermy uh was all bruised uh she uh was beaten up they beat this girl up yeah uh she was found uh she had her femur was fractured her ribs were broken why'd they do that i don't know uh both uh she was shot in the hand uh obviously defense wounds there uh and uh yeah apparently that's what they they uh apparently they think they ran out of ammo and that's why they started stabbing instead

they just started stabbing people beat them to death and beating them uh believable both women had stab wounds brooke phillips larynx was also slashed and her abdomen was slashed they actually slashed at the at their stomach that's disgusting and then shot her a bunch of times and set her on fucking fire unbelievable and they started the fire with her that's yeah they poured later we'll talk about this why did they choose her why were they so mad at her she wouldn't die yeah everybody else died she wouldn't fucking die they said she wouldn't we'll talk about it in a second but they said later on there's a witness as she wouldn't fucking die wow they like they stabbed they slashed her throat they shot her she still

wouldn't fucking die they're like she was indestructible here she was part cherokee because that's maybe that's the rumor that's possible it's a motherfucker so she's some she's pulling some rasputin shit going on here uh so, yeah, her bullet wounds also, the wounds that she has, Brooke, indicate a struggle as the shots aren't grouped together but spread out like they were shooting her as she was squirming and trying to get away. So she wasn't there. They were all shot

in the head, obviously. They said the whole thing probably took less than three minutes. Bodies were in all different rooms there. There was gasoline spread all over the house and lit, but also on Brook. They think Hog Shooter started the fire, and they all fled the scene in Denny Phillips Grand Dam. They drove to a location here, and they buried their pistols. They drove out to Shawnee, buried their pistols and uh and the clothes that they

used in the murders and then drove to uh denny phillips house and then they all split up from there uh now they also they the the pass the electronic pass thing uh says they got on the turnpike again at 5 30 so they were there an hour and a half tops and uh and at the exit towards selena at 7 30 a.m and uh there was also the grand prix was captured that morning at a nearby business uh by their surveillance camera and that was that the fire is reported at 5 37 a.m that's when that comes uh medical examiner is you know that uh when they get there ermie's still alive she's the only one still alive she didn't suffer the fatal gunshot wound.

She ended up dying of smoke inhalation. Ah, God, Jesus. Yeah, it's all as bad as it could possibly be. Now, the gas company employee said that it belonged to Jose Ferrero at the house. He said that Ferrero actually used to work for the gas company but was fired for failing a drug test there so he knew him actually yeah uh initially they thought fierro was one of the burned bodies and then they realized that he was up a tree and not there now or under a bush or whatever there's separate reports one time he said he was up a tree and the

other time they said he was under a bush so he's either over or under he's something i don't know if he's a bird or a mouse but he's doing some shit so now uh uh fierro's grandmother was calling a lawyer for him because that's where he went to his grandmother's house he didn't speak with the cops for a couple days about the about the fire and when he did he only said he said there was it's all hooligan he doesn't know david's real. He just knows him as hooligan. So Tyner's girlfriend, his new girlfriend here, the Stanton woman, wakes up and finds him not there, which is not – that's pretty normal. He usually, I guess, would get up and out of the house early and go work out. Noon that day, he came around, and he was there around normal. She said he was acting normal.

He didn't smell like gasoline. There was nothing incriminating. He didn't have bloody knives laying around you know nothing like that uh at the crime scene police figure out that barrientos was wearing by what he was earlier in the night he's wearing about ten thousand dollars worth of jewelry when he was murdered that were all gone uh this was a diamond uh white gold cross necklace matching diamond white gold earrings, diamond and white gold bracelet. And they said that the house typically has a lot of fucking money in it.

And they could only find $221 in the house. Wow. They got it all. Shit's been robbed. Also, they have bullet casings from two different guns at the scene. So they're assuming that hooligan, who that's the only person they know of,

is not alone, unless he was wielding two separate guns. That very weird uh yeah which is totally different and doesn't happen very often uh that week he makes a bunch of phone calls tyner does uh uh he speaks with uh uh he speaks with his ex-girlfriend's father who is in prison yeah uh who he met in prison that's how they got hooked up and he says that he tells him that he'll be seeing him very soon. So he knows he's going to jail is what he's saying here. He also talked to Jason Nicholson, who told him that U.S. Marshals had been at his door looking for Tyner, saying that, you know, this guy is hooligan.

He goes, I don't know him as hooligan, but I know that guy is Tyner, and I know him. I guess Tyner at first played dumb and he said what do they want like what do you do that's weird that's that's strange marshals us what do they do are they what's their job what's their what are they doing uh nicholson apparently didn't buy his shit and told him quote you can't run from the law it's a waste of time it's a waste of energy so he's telling him no uh november 17th, Tyner walks into the prior police station 10 miles outside of Salina and says, quote, I'm David Tyner. I hear you guys are looking for me. So they sit him down.

He wouldn't talk to detectives. Nicholson tried to get some money together to help him out with a lawyer. And Tyner told him, don't even worry about it. He said, quote, I got this public defender. Take care of it. No problem. Going to be fine. Got me a lawyer uh and tyner told him don't even worry about it he said quote i got this public defender yeah take care of it no problem gonna be fine got me a lawyer we're good he's dude he's the best he's the best that they had to offer that was available right now pretty sure anyway no longer than me i mean a state school but it's he still went so uh uh they said that uh at this point november 24th a bunch of different uh, there was a bunch of prison rioting going on. Mexican inmates attacking Indian Brotherhood, which was retaliation for Barrientos.

So this spilled over into prison here. This was a huge deal. Six people were hospitalized. A few days later, two American Indians here took a hatchet to two Hispanic gang members and almost killed them both. And this put the whole prison into lockdown for months. Probably because how the fuck did you get a hatchet in here? Second question is, if you've got a hatchet, how is the guy that you hit not fucking dead? They're alive.

They're both alive. Bad swinger. Shit. No shit. You're bad at hatcheting. That doesn't take much, James. No, it really, really doesn't here here uh uh so yeah they're talking about all these uh fires everybody's shocked jason nicholson said that he described tyner like a

brother and uh he says quote knowing what he's charged with shocks me the most he would have never thought that uh police interview uh fiero a lot about this whole thing they say he's not a suspect uh they said that he was you know lucky to escape is the whole thing they're lucky to get out of it now denny phillips tyner's in jail phillips is not uh phillips is they're looking at phillips they think he's involved but they have no evidence to arrest him so this idiot rather than lay low maybe fucking go to another state something like that uh he does something the complete opposite. There is six counts hanging over his head of fucking dead people.

This idiot, the police officially are describing him as a person of interest at this point. But he, Jesus, what a fucking idiot. January of 2010, good God, man. He's arrested, listen to this shit, for possessing a weapon as a convicted felon. Listen to where he got this fucking weapon. He robbed the home of a Tulsa homicide detective.

What? A guy named Mike Huff. Detective Mike Huff. He stole a police uniform, guns, family heirlooms, and this cop's truck. Stole a Silverado pickup truck. Are you out of your fucking mind that's what i mean you can't and he's got uniforms he's got guns he's got all this shit so at this point police are worried and they organize a task force to hunt them down because like we can't have some guy posing as

a cop out there uh with a full uniform and everything uh so it's at this point tyner's in jail his girlfriend samantha stanton just starts dating denny phillips just like fuck it whatever i mean who cares he's right here he's right here she's the laziest dater ever pretty much the same thing i guess i don't know he says drugs and stuff uh uh so uh she begins dating denny phillips denny phillips knocks her up oh right away right away uh uh now this happens. Everything's fine with them until April 2010. This is how long he's on the lam after he robbed that fucking cop's house and everything.

April 2010, they're cornered in a Tulsa Motel 6, which is not a good place to be cornered. That is gross. Man. Phillips still had the stolen gun he got from Huff, the police officer. And he hopped around, acting like he was going to shoot, jumping around. He wasn't giving up, basically, is what it was.

So he basically would bounce around, and the cops weren't going to shoot because he's inside of a fucking hotel lobby, and there's other people around. So they're like, what are we supposed to do with this asshole he's got his gun shooting but he's hopping and hiding behind shit looking out the window so they didn't know what to do here uh so they ended up uh having to shoot at him uh they shoot at him he suffers bullet wounds to his quote torso and crotch oh boy the report says and this is my favorite favorite favorite report ever here quote his testicles were unsalvageable oh what and his penis was partially severed they got him they shot him in the dick and balls and he lost a toe and they ruined him uh yes uh so torso crotch and toe oh boy unsalvageable testicles, Jimmy.

I have never in my life heard those two words used back to back. Unsalvageable testicles. Have you ever heard that? No, but I'm going to start calling people that. Doctor, his testicles are unsalvageable. I've never heard that before. Yeah, so they shoot him. You're as useless as an unsalvageable testicle. And a partially severed penis.

He is in the hospital in, quote, serious condition. I'd call it extra super serious condition. I'd call that fucking red alert, code blue, unsalvageable testicle problem. This is at a Tulsa hospital. Jesus Christ. One of the cops there said that they all purposely fired low to avoid uh shooting anybody else and uh yeah they shot one of the cops like i think i hit him in the death i think i had him in the day they're never going to be able to salvage his testicles i'll tell you that

right now his testicles are fucking done boys uh aim low but if you get a shot take it take it you got it sir all, this ball back. Aim low. You know what I mean. You know what I'm saying. Wink, wink. So the officer later on said, just to clear a few things up that were reported incorrectly. First of all, Phillips was shot by two Tulsa police detectives.

No SWAT team was involved. They said the reason why the shots were low was due to the fact that Phillips was standing in front of a large window. Two detectives shot low to prevent any possible injury to innocent citizens. Actually, the low shots were pretty effective. This is a quote from him. Half of half of Phillips Phillips's penis was removed along with both testicles. I am a retired 30 year member of the Tulsa Police Department. I'm proud to say the guys involved did a wonderful job getting this evil

person off the street and making it so his testicles will never reproduce more shitty human beings he just said evil off the streets and I added the rest of the part but you know what they shot on that was on purpose if we're gonna hit him let's shoot low

hit him in the balls there's no way that was an accident no way so yeah an accident. No way. So, yeah, he ends up, they take him in right away, and he's sentenced to seven and a half years for the burglary and weapons charges on that police detective here. But they're also, they like him for this murder also, obviously. He's awaiting trial. I love the phrase, aim low, produced a belly shot yeah a toe shot and then right in the dick that is a miscommunication all three of those guys had different ids fucking all over it all

over that or there was just in a row pop shooting up because it's kind of so jesus christ man they uh prosecutors think that denny phillips plotted the, but they don't know if he was in the house nearby or whatever. An inmate of his, who was a roommate of Denny Phillips, locked up after the Tulsa shootout there, after his dick and balls got taken off. He said that Denny Phillips told him about the murders, and he said that Brooke Phillips, quote, just wouldn't die. That was the thing here. Jesus Christ. Way to make the funny stop man was shot in the dick that's funny unsalvageable testicles is funny dead pregnant

prostitute not as funny not nearly as funny horribly sad so uh the judge says that are the prosecutor informs everyone that they will be going for the death penalty against mr tyner here uh he appears in uh with this public defender there uh district attorney galen geiger are you galen galen geiger that is a fucked name galen geiger is it a male or female galen i assume is a guy you hope so galen i mean you wouldn't hope so because a woman named Galen, it's not as bad. With the alliteration, too.

Galen Geiger. You have to make it stand out even more. Jesus. Poor guy in school because he's an older guy. Jesus Christ. So, uh, uh, Tyner here, uh, uh,

through this whole thing, he, uh, he ends up entering a guilty plea. Uh, to all six counts of first degree murder uh yeah uh that's not bad uh the uh uh he can't plead this is may 2012 this is four adults and two fetuses if he went to trial he would have faced the death penalty this plea offers no options to appeal as a part of this deal as well uh now uh during sentencing family members obviously get to come in and talk shit about them uh they read statements from the family talking about you know philip's leaving behind a six-year-old daughter uh quote her aunt said quote losing brooke has

turned our whole world upside down and it will never be the same words cannot explain the anguish that we feel one of the barrera family members said the loss of Millie and her unborn child is beyond words. We hope that every they said this to the cousin here said, quote, we hope to Tyner. We hope that every day of your life you relive the tortures of what you did November 9th. There, Tyner does not address the court and chose to stand with his back to Ernie's mother and cousin as they read their statement what an asshole what an asshole there and uh well the judge though he can get him back real easily and he does uh he's gonna get him back but we'll talk about this for one second uh first uh his his high school wrestling coach is shocked yeah johnny cook said this is just unbelievable he was as good a kid as you can find. A hardworking, passionate kid would give you the shirt off his back.

Not anymore. No. He's visited by, before he's sentenced, Tyner's visited in jail by an MMA guy turned prison minister. What? Who's addressing inmates about shit. This isn't one of your characters? No, this is not, actually.

I swear to God. He said an official took him to see Tyner, who was surrounded by six guards and, quote, looked like Hannibal Lecter without the mask. Chains and buckles tethered him to his bed. They said a previous visit had not gone well, and Tyner threatened violence against somebody. So he and Wren talked for hours. Tyner remembered they were supposed to fight once. They were both MMA fighters.

He told Wren he wanted to pursue once they were both mma fighters he told ren he wanted to pursue fighting as a career but instead he made quote an awful choice uh now he says he's in isolation 23 hours a day and all that uh he says that uh uh he had a stack of journals three feet high and his cell and tyner said quote dreams and prayers and just kind of laughed it off they said he had his bible there and all that kind of shit uh uh he said that uh uh his girlfriend was on drugs and pregnant and uh he said that you know all that sort of shit um you know whatever that's his life that's his life here so sentencing comes around yeah the judge says you're back to people uh you're gonna set pregnant women on fire you You, sir, may fuck off.

Life without parole. That's part of his deal. No appeal, no parole. Fucking life. Take a hike, asshole. In there forever. Dennis Hoff didn't come speak. Dennis Hoff is in this.

What do you think? I don't have a Dennis Hoff quote? Come on. I was just wondering if he skipped an opportunity. Get the fuck out of here. He's got shit to say. Oh, no, no, no. if he skipped an opportunity.

Get the fuck out of here. He's got shit to say. Oh, no, no, no. Apparently, Tyner also gives additional info to the police a couple years later, which he was not willing to do at first. He told the detectives everything. He was in Maryland in a prison there being held away for gang reasons.

He told police in detail about everything uh that happened he told about the two accomplices that went to the house to rob him so now it's all all out in the open he said he waited for barrientos he said denny phillips threatened him saying if he didn't follow through that denny phillips would have his family killed uh so he had to do this once he was in it uh he said that he spoke to phillips by phone and then once he was there, he said to make sure there was drugs in the house and then kill everybody and get the fuck out. Basically, he said they came out. He killed Barry Entos, who had a knife. They killed the women.

They started looking for money. He said when Tyner came back into the house, he saw that hog shooter and John, who's the Cochran, were holding bloody knives. His name is Johnny Cochran. John Cochran. Yeah, absolutely. shooter and uh and john who's the cochran were holding bloody knives the detective wrote johnny cochran john cochran yeah absolutely uh tyner then said he uh he said he went into the bedroom and found brooke phillips lying on the floor quote she was bleeding from her head and neck he was confronted by hog shooter who told him to get into the car john and tyner got into the car and hog shooter poured gas into the house and lit it on fire. They wrote the detective. Detective also said Tyner said the three of them drove to an area past Shawnee and they buried everything. Now they get a judge's permission to arrest Russell Lee Hog Shooter and Jonathan Allen Cochran.

Johnny Cochran of their 37 and 35 at this point. And they're being held. They are also talking about new suspect, new suspects they might get from Cochran's brother in law who's feeding them a bunch of shit, too. He said that John Cochran had told him about the incident several years earlier. So now this guy's telling on him to his brother in law. He said that Cochran told told him that he'd been involved in a robbery homicide cochran told him there were some mexicans in a drug house selling cocaine he said he went there with a guy that mexicans trusted and let him inside the house that somebody let him in the

house and they ambushed people inside cochran told him there was a pregnant female in the house she was begging for her life cochran said they shot her so there's no doubt what happened in there at all he also said that cochran and hog Shooter were in the Indian Brotherhood gang. So they arrest Russell Lee Hog Shooter and Jonathan Allen Cochran there. When they arrest Hog Shooter, he's in possession of a.22 caliber handgun there. Hog Shooter's been arrested of shitload of times, a bunch of assault charges and booze-related shit. General asshole. General asshole. General nudnickery. He's been to prison twice. of shitload of times a bunch of assault charges and booze related shit general asshole general asshole he's been general nudnickery yeah he's been to prison twice uh two years for assaulting

a police officer and then two years for attempting to elude police officers so he doesn't like to be arrested is what that says uh so also second degree burglary in 2004 uh that sort of thing now when brooke ph Brooke Phillips was killed, she was living there and was not at the brothel because she was pregnant. There's dudes that are into that, but that's not what you're selling.

Very few. So, Dennis Hoff said that the arrests, these new arrests bring back painful memories. He said, quote, I thought all this was put to rest. I hope there's an afterlife so Tyner can burn in hell. And if these guys are involved

i hope they're right there with him he says hoff goes on to say that he and brooke phillips dated for some time but phillips wanted another child and hoff did not so now listen to this hoff said he quote arranged for phillips to get pregnant yeah arranged for her to get pregnant for how much okay this man's gonna mount you yes uh and she returned to oklahoma with her where her uh with her family there until then uh hoff is really upset with hog shooter who he said tortured uh phillips about a robot it comes out that apparently she said something about his shirt or something at one point and that's why he tortured her in particular because she was a

fucking asshole to him apparently it was kind of a dick to him so because she likes fashion i don't know what the fuck yeah hoff said quote it's just gut wrench gut wrenching i can't describe the pain and i'm not a guy that believes in the death sentence uh only because of all the mistakes i've seen but in this case i want to jump i want to jump over the rail and kill him myself, which is, I think, pretty normal shit there. He says about Brooke, quote, she was a very fun, outgoing girl. Amazing body, which is not something you say about a dead woman. Dennis. Amazing body.

What the fuck? That's the second thing he said. Fun, outgoing girl. Great personality smart amazing body wow so he says she was a very outgoing fun girl amazing body amazing looks and just fun as she could be no drugs no liquor just like to have a good time and eat vietnamese food and exercise that's not exactly true because she's at that house because she wanted to do coke off a CD case. Minus the fit and Chinese food, it sounds like Donald Trump describing his daughter. Yeah. That's pretty much what it was. Great body.

Knockout. Amazing body. No drugs. No liquor. She just likes to have a good time. She's just as fun as could be. I'll tell you right now. What a piece.

What a piece. So after, by the way, the house was demolished. A new house has been built in its place. So that's all gone here. Well, I mean, it was burned down. Yeah. Well, I mean, they just, they raised the whole fucking, they didn't like build on the foundation. Pulled the foundation out too.

Fucking, yeah. Good. Salty earth. New footprint. Salty earth. So Cochran ends up testifying there. He says that he ends up, it's also phillips they're going to bring into all this shit too they're all charged with six counts of first degree murder one count of conspiracy

prosecutors say that phillips bragged about uh his power as a war chief in the indian brotherhood gang uh to talk about how he orchestrated this robbery and killing uh at his they all say that it's at phillips direction that they went here to execute this murder mission as they called it uh cochran told the jury here about details he said he went to the home he heard muffled gunshots he said there was a couple of bodies he said quote it freaked me out it was the first time i'd seen somebody get shot yeah uh cochran said he said i found hog shooter it appeared that hog shooter was pulling a knife out of some guy's throat which is fucking rough thing to walk into cochran said

he eventually saw a total of three bodies when he entered the home he said tyner uh uh tyner had already shot those people uh now uh we know we know that he said said that he, this is Cochran, said he didn't hurt Brooke Phillips. He said, quote, I've been trying to get it out of my mind for the last five years. He said that he saw Cochran, he saw Hog Shooter, Cochran did, inside the house with an injured blonde-haired woman. That would be Phillips. Cochran said the woman was on her knees and Hog Shooter was holding her by the hair. This is Brooke Phillips quote

she was screaming and bloody she had blonde hair she was bleeding real bad her eye was hanging out of her head oh fuck after he shot her he said quote she was asking us what we are going asking us why we were doing it she was screaming pretty loud Hog Shooter told me to shoot her

he said Cochran said he shot a couple of times missing on purpose. He said, quote, I put the safety on and told him I was out of bullets. I didn't want to kill her. So he said that, that cog shooter did it.

Then he says, quote, Russell, that's hog shooter told me Brooke Phillips was still screaming when he poured gas on her. Oh my God. Yeah. That's why I said this is might be the worst thing anyone's ever done on a show here that is fucking horrific pouring gasoline on a bloody injured shot stabbed

pregnant woman while she begs for a life that's about as fucking bad as you could do i think it's as bad as you can be right is what's worse than that there's no worse when you describe when people describe like i don't think there should be a death penalty except for, except for this. Except for if they torture a pregnant woman and do this shit like this. Then we should kill them ourselves.

And that's how people think because this is, this is bad shit. They should have let Dennis Hoff do it. These are bad fucking people. I mean, no, nevermind.

He called her, he said that one weird. Amazing body. That was the thing where I was like, come on, bro. That weird stuff ruins it.

Yeah, it makes it weird. So, yeah, Cochran said that he knew the murders were going to happen, but he, quote, didn't verbally agree to kill anybody. He said, I went there under the assumption that somebody else was going to murder someone. I didn't agree to the murders, but I agreed to go down there. Well, you're guilty. Guess what? You're in the car on the way to the liquor store, as we say in small town murder. You're in.

That's the law, idiot. Defense attorneys pointed out inconsistencies with Cochran's version of events. They argued that significant details have stayed significant, the prosecutor said. And Cochran is sentenced to 25 years in prison. Really?

He is sentenced to 25 years in prison. Tyner's fucking sitting in prison. While he's in prison, these fucking people like like the gang interventionists and the drug people they never fucking leave people alone so he's always always has somebody fucking coming after coming into his cell and doing all that shit uh uh you know that sort of thing like well fucking the prison guy came the the minister guy who's the mma fighter came the one day.

And then after sentencing, two years have gone by. He hears about the Cochran thing. And then the door bursts open and it's Vince McMahon, chairman of the WWE. And he says. How is it you've come to arrive? What the hell is wrong with you? Look at you. Look at you. You're in the Marines.

You're an American hero. Do you understand that? You are an American hero. You are in the Marines, and you're an Indian. You're a real Indian. Remember Tatanka? I could put a headdress on you. I could have marched you around.

You're half hillbilly, half Indian. Red, white, put a headdress on you. I could have marched you around. You're half hillbilly, half Indian. Red, white, and blue headdress with a pair of overalls. You could have been Billy Bob Running Feather. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about? Jimmy John, gas kick a lot. You know, something like that. Jimmy John, whoop ass, we could have called you.

You could have been the greatest thing ever. You fucked it all up. Look at you. You're stuck here now. I'm not going to hire you. I couldn't hire you couldn't hire well maybe i could i could probably get it but hold on give me two days and we'll talk about poof and a poof of of injured wrestlers and brain damage and uh syringes 1099 1099s for independent contractors he's gone and tyner's like shit almost that would have been my dream i

could have done that fuck uh so then they had the denny phillips and russell hog shooter trial here uh so uh they keep going again this is all they keep talking about brooke phillips uh i remember one of the witnesses that talked to them afterwards said quote i remember him describing the way brooke phillips wouldn't die uh and then the prosecutor said, did you say wouldn't die? And she said yes and started to cry. Quote, she was stabbed and she was screaming. Then she was shot and she was still screaming. And then she was torched.

She was set on fire. So they go through all of this here. They talk about they talk about everything. They go through it. She said that she this woman testifies that she noticed a metal skull belonging to Barry Entos was hanging inside Denny Phillips' car. So he's not even hiding shit. He's got souvenirs from the house he's putting in his car. And this woman said, quote, he would flick it and laugh and say that he got what he deserved.

Jesus. So, yeah, not good. The same, this woman also said the day after Barryentos was identified, Phillips took flowers to his mother. Unbelievable. He took flowers to Barrientos' mother. Yeesh. Jesus. This woman said, quote, I thought it was sick that he took flowers to his mother.

Don't worry. It's sick. He lost his dick. He lost his dick. But that woman, I mean, she doesn't know. It's her son. That's fucking horrible. This goddamn Brooke Phillips and her pregnant kid and her kid.

I even feel bad for Dennis Hoff, but not nearly as bad as I feel for David Tyner, materials coordinator at Kaiser Permanente in Cleveland, Akron area, hospital care there. hospital care there. David Tyner, master sergeant in the U.S. Army. Oh, what? Retired and is now a medical administrative assistant in Frankfurt in Germany over there. David Tyner, systems engineer and affording excellent solutions. I don't know, it's a telecommunications shit

in Los Angeles. Also, volunteer tutor for homeless children through Schools on Wheels, Inc. What a nice man. He's a nice man. And finally, always if I find this, I put them out there. David Tyner, real estate broker. He's not going to kill all of your pregnant women.

He's not. He'll sell you a house and it'll be fine, I'm sure. Give him a chance. He's in Yakima, Washington at Windermere Real Estate. And this poor poor bastard has suffered enough for this uh yeah so uh uh uh tyner also testified here they said he said quote denny denny phillips purposely stayed away the prosecutor asked him denny phillips purposely stayed away so you guys could do the dirty work and tyner said exactly uh he says that

they they stole ten thousand dollars from the house uh tyner also uh uh says that tyner's they're trying to get him out of testifying because they said that that wasn't part of his deal but now they're trying to force him to testify but he ends up doing it anyway he says that now he's saying that he didn't even do it really tyner he just knew about it he said he only pleaded guilty to avoid the death penalty and he's only testifying to try to get better living conditions and all that sort of shit. Guess who has no way of turning this over? Yeah. Yeah.

He says his mother arranged a call with the district attorney, and he testified he wanted to be moved to a prison closer to his family and all that type of shit. So, yeah, it doesn't matter here. that type of shit so uh yeah uh it doesn't matter here uh so february of 2015 uh hog shooter pleads guilty to six counts of murder one count of conspiracy and uh he is sentenced to 25 years so everybody gets 25 years except for tyner who gets life fucking without uh i only got 25 25 years for what the fuck he did that's unbelievable that is insane well he ended up pleading that's why so he got 20 but i don't know why they would let him plead why give him why i believe eyewitnesses saying he set a pregnant woman on fire while she's still alive why give him that opportunity hey fuck you we're gonna take life without assholes so you don't

like that then you can enjoy the chair so i don't know what the fuck to tell you uh tyner said uh prosecutors tried to say that that uh that they worked out their problems. Denny had nothing to do with this. Business was good and all that sort of shit. They tried to strike down his girlfriend's recollections of seeing shit in the car that Denny said. They said that she had to admit her use of methamphetamine and cocaine would alter her perceptions and make her paranoid. She also said that she had seen a mental health professional at one point. She said, quote, It was to help me sleep from the nightmares.

So, yeah, there's that. So hog shooter, Denny, 25 years. That's that. Can't get enough. Well, you can go visit him in prison because no one else gives a shit. Enjoy. Find him. Go say hi and tell him i said to

eat a dick so i don't care eat the rest of philips i didn't look for an autograph or nobody cares fuck this guy that's basically the story wow that is uh david tyner and one of the most fucked up stories we've ever had on this show sincerely by a long shot yeah that was absolutely bonkers i don't even know what the fuck to say about that i can't i can yeah that was absolutely bonkers i don't even know what the fuck to say about that i can't i can't believe it that was crazy i don't know how we haven't heard more of that story i don't know how we didn't hear that story it's crazy shit um if you like that crazy shit i know what you can do get on itunes apple podcast whatever it is and give us five stars doesn't matter what you say tell us you're following instructions following directions

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