Crime in Sports - #171 - Shooting, Punching & Arugula - The Conscientiousness of Adam "Pacman" Jones

Episode Date: July 30, 2019

This week, we take a long look at a man who, despite immense talent, was always a bigger force of nature, off the field, than on it. He showed flashes of brilliance, only to have his progress... be taken back 2 steps, by yet another arrest. Fighting? Absolutely. Drunken strip club attacks? You know it. Cheating at a casino? Threatening the lives of police? Punching a woman? Indeed. And then some. He's truly one of the most requested episodes that we've had, and it's still better than anyone could have hoped for! Answer a racial slur with a pool cue to the face, attack a dancer when she tries to pick up the money that you threw down for her, and always make sure to have the best arugula possible with Adam "Pacman" Jones!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us again on another wild, woolly, crazy, insane, death-defying, gravity-denying edition of Crime and Sports. Somebody's got an airplane. No, no one's got an airplane. There's no airline things, but there is an awful lot of insanity and noodnickery this week. This is a thick one. It's one that people have been asking for for a long time. We'll get into it very, very quickly.
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Starting point is 00:03:41 this has obviously been a very requested episode since the beginning, but this is one of those, I'm glad we didn't do it in the beginning, because there's been so much that's happened. We would have had to do another one. We would have had to do a Lenny Dykstra with, here's even more craziness this guy's been involved in. So, Adam Pac-Man Jones. Oh, Jesus, this is going to be like Jose Canseco. Do we have a bed around here? It's great. No, no, no. We are going to, this is gonna be like jose canseco do we have a bed around it's great no no
Starting point is 00:04:06 no we are gonna this is we're not doing that we're gonna we're gonna do this the correct way we're not gonna go over a ton of football stuff all right tell you how many interceptions he's gotten that sort of thing but we're gonna focus in on the fuckery and the craziness and all of the legal things and try to get through this in a in a in a timely manner in a timely manner we're going to try to not do three hour episodes here and do it a little bit less but adam pac-man jones we've all i think by now if you've just seen the news or any sort of just social media you've probably heard of this guy we've watched a football game and heard somebody say who does he think he is pac-man yeah this guy that's that means he's doing something illegal and thinking he's going to get away with it.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And that's what that means. And being really kind of brash about it as well. He's really just, wow. I can't explain to you. You hear about him here and there. But then when you compile it all together, it's wow. Is it a lot of parts? I believe it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah, it's almost, it's like Stranger Things. Like there's like the new season. There's all these people and they're all monsters and that's fine but when they melt into one big monster holy shit wow is it big and scary and it'll ruin the whole mall so he's born september 30th 1983 he's so young that's what i mean when i read that at first i'm like 83 and i'm like but yeah i guess that makes sense you just stopped playing football but for the love of christ 83 the guy has a record it should be from like 42 you know he's born when his daddy was away at world war ii he was killed in iwo jima and he came up without a without a dad on the tough side of the tracks and like that's no that's
Starting point is 00:05:43 not what happened it's 83 this should. This should be a blast today. It's interesting. Oh, it's a blast. Don't worry. He's born in Atlanta. He's born in Atlanta. He's raised by his mom, a woman named Deborah, and his grandmother, Christine. His mother gave him the nickname Pac-Man.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Really? So that did not come. That's a childhood nickname that his mom gave him, which is weird because you find that a lot of times in here. A guy will have a nickname, and we find out it's a childhood nickname, his mom gave him, which is weird because you find that a lot of times in here. A guy will have a nickname and we find out it's a childhood nickname. And we're like, oh, Jesus, that sounded like something, you know, he got pretty hard. Oh, Penny. Penny.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. A lot of those where they sound like you get it later, but it's not. It's a childhood nickname. He said his mother said that he would change. His mother said he changed direction fast. He was a very hyperactive kid. He was always moving around like Pac-Man. Eating ghosts, apparently.
Starting point is 00:06:27 It's the other thing, too. Chasing a ghost all over the world. He survived until the age of seven on nothing but ghost meat. So that was the problem there. And so Pac-Man was an obvious choice for the name. There's nothing else you could call the kid at that point. And pellets. Little pellets.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And a cherry once in a while. From time to time. Only from time to time he liked a cherry when he was sick and then he made him feel better which was pretty cool and then he'd eat more ghosts which was awesome yeah it's got him got him fucking going that's how he could eat all his ghosts so uh his father when he was four years old his father was shot in the back of the head during a robbery and killed okay so uh yeah that'll shape your life makes a lot of sense a lot of his future actions make sense on that now when you say during a
Starting point is 00:07:12 robbery he was being he was being robbed oh the father was his father was a criminal also but he was being robbed at the time so i mean who knows of what and we don't know the circumstances it was a you know 1987 somewhere in Atlanta. Got it. His dad was killed. By the way, quick interruption on the story. This is our 300th podcast. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yes, our 300th episode of podcasting. Between both of them. 129 for Small Town Murder, 171 for Crime and Sports. So congratulations to us for episode 300. We've tried our best. That's the best way I can put it. We've sat down 300 times together. 300 goddamn times.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's insane, isn't it? It sounds like a lot. It's amazing. It's way more than like, that's like almost twice as many as there are Seinfeld episodes. Think about it. And those are 22 minutes long. And they got a lot more money. Oh. Jerry just rides around with his friends laughing now.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I watched one and they were talking about your company and which company gets this. He goes, I don't know. I don't even know if I have a company. He doesn't even know if he makes money for that because it doesn't matter. Because he wouldn't notice. That's how much money he has. That's how much money he has. Do you still have money coming in, Jerry?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I don't know. He just gave me this car and said, go pick your friend up. I was like, cool. Sounds like fun. They just gave me this $300,000 car. I think that's what it's worth. Sounds good to me. That's what they said.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Fucking insane. By the way, the one with Eddie Murphy. Yes. He's the greatest. So good. The greatest thing in the world. What the fuck? He's like, oh, my two comedic heroes as a child.
Starting point is 00:08:41 As a comic, it really puts things into perspective. It makes you feel like a piece of shit. Piece of shit. Jesus. heroes as a child right there i was like oh as a comic it really puts things into perspective well just watching eddie murphy have a have a mild conversation with someone you go well i'm half of one percent as talented as that person he's not even trying no he's just driving around just fucking around he's looking at buildings and he's being 20 times funnier than I could ever be. God damn it. No leather suit or anything. He's rocking it. So Pac-Man here says he's got one memory of his father. His father was an amateur boxer as well. So an athlete also.
Starting point is 00:09:17 He said Adam was sitting on his uncle's shoulders looking over a crowd to see his dad at his funeral. That was the only memory he has dad uh at his funeral that was the that was the last the only memory he has of him is his funeral there that's not a memory it's not really a memory his dad was only 24 also i mean young guy adam was four what number does he wear well which which team oh okay so 24 24 on a couple of them but he's that's what i asked he's had a couple different ones also uh so yeah his mother remembers adam being kind of confused and not knowing what, because there's four. You don't understand death when you're four.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It doesn't make any sense. Like, what do you mean? The people just show up every day and you see them. I don't get it. And then they don't want to. Yeah. And so she said her, his mother said he remembered her looking up and asking, does this mean I'm never going to see dad again?
Starting point is 00:10:03 Or what does this mean? And she had to explain that. Yeah, that that's there he goes yeah they put dirt on him he's not going to climb out of that shit you wouldn't want him to you'd be scared if he did you'd be super horrified by that you think this thoughts you think this is traumatizing you want to see a nightmare where do you see your father who's been dead for like five days now with a gunshot wound to his head crawl from the ground much worse reeking of formaldehyde you'll be much more screwed up so uh yeah his mother he said as we just cried and cried his cried and uh a few months later his uncle nick
Starting point is 00:10:37 also died the guy who was sitting on his shoulders yeah good god all any kind of male figure in his life was killed at an early age that's kind of what he grew up with. He says, quote, none of the males on my dad's side ever got to see 25. My dad was shot and robbed. Nick was killed trying to rob somebody. My uncle Ant was stabbed on a bus. He was 23. His what?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Uncle Ant. Is that the aunt that had balls? Antony. Yeah, it's my uncle Ant. That's my aunt that had balls, so she's now my uncle. There's a lot of Italian kids with an uncle Ant out there. Really? Oh, Anthony.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Uncle Ant was stabbed on a bus. He was 23. So this is not good at all. One while being robbed, one while robbing, and one just apparently needing to go five blocks down and didn't feel like walking and got stabbed for it so that's that's pretty rough so yeah growing up not the most uh stable mental situation i would think if
Starting point is 00:11:33 anybody could be murdered at any time is not a great feeling as a kid no anyone i'm close to could be murdered so it doesn't make you want to get close to people no at least any males right anyway uh and that's kind of the way it is, too, with him later on. It's interesting. We'll see later on. So as a kid growing up here in Atlanta, he was coached. Actually, a couple people took interest in him and helped him along with athletics and coached him. A couple guys saw some talent in him.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And there's always, hopefully, there's somebody there. It's always a good always hopefully there's somebody there it's always a good thing when there's somebody there who is just willing to help a kid out yeah that's not like gonna latch on to him and try to manage him later or any of that shit or take advantage of for whatever yeah whatever the reason try to let high school coaches to try to latch on to get like you know paid from the colleges for steering their kids that way and shit like that but if somebody actually is an actual helpful person and they're not trying to molest anybody or anything like that it's so crazy that you have to qualify it with that many things if they're not trying to latch onto them to steal their future income or fucking touch their butthole as a child or something
Starting point is 00:12:40 fucking terrible it's like you know in the 2% chance that they're not trying to do any of that stuff and they're just a decent person, what the fuck is happening? That is amazing. Yeah, because I picture that guy and that's the guy we talk about all the time that's 20 minutes early with all the orange slices
Starting point is 00:12:56 at Little League practice. That's not the guy you want coaching your team. He's either trying to count the ripples in your butthole or he's looking for a Corvette from somebody for later. That's what I mean. Either one. We always say that. You want the guy coaching the team that you have to force to coach the Little League team.
Starting point is 00:13:11 You're like, no. His wife had to yell at him and he's like, all I have is Saturday. Fine. Fine. I'll do it. That guy's not going to touch any of those kids because he doesn't want to be around them. The guy who's like, who needs a coach? You need a coach?
Starting point is 00:13:22 I'll coach. No, I don't have any kids, but I love kids. I'll coach. Stay the fuck away from that guy that's the guy 20 minutes early with orange slices going hey kids i'm tom i've got a strict no no high five and policy it's all hugs around it's all hugs and ass laughs that's it just like the major leaguers i'm going to teach you kids how to do it right so in high school you got to take the orange slice out of my mouth that's the only way it's gonna work jesus christ good fuck in high school he went to west lake high school in in georgia here in atlanta and this high school at the time he went there had the most nfl players of any high school
Starting point is 00:13:59 in the country really uh yeah that were alumni of a particular high school had like seven players later and a couple years after him cam new Newton ends up being an alumni of theirs. So Pac-Man and Cam Newton both went there. Incredible. So right there is enough. But there's a few other guys, too. Sean Jones, who was a defensive back for about six years. Linebackers, a bunch of defensive guys.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Only Cam Newton, a guard, and one tackle. And everybody else is all DBs and linebackers. How about that? Interesting. Edwin Jackson, Sean Jones, Keontae Tripp, Keith Adams, Anthony Mitchell. Tripp, T-R-I-P-P? T-R-I-P-P. I played for Cleveland for one year.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I don't know. But Jones, he played in the Georgia-Florida All-Star Game and was selected as the Conference Player of the Year. Really? So yeah, he's a talent. If you've watched Pac-Man play, there is no doubt he's a talent. You watch this guy and he is like,
Starting point is 00:14:53 he's like a B, he's a B-level Deion Sanders is the way I always looked at him. He's not quite Deion. He's like if someone tried to make a knockoff of a big budget movie. And they did a real competent job, but they didn't have the budget to do the huge explosions. And it's that sort of shit.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Otherwise, he's got like a... He really is talented and he's fast. He's just a little not quite as fast as Dion. Not quite as talented as Dion. Not quite as brash as Dion. He doesn't get away with it as easy as Dion. He makes it fun to watch whatever matchup he's on. Oh, he is an entertaining player.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Oh, God, Jesus, he's great. He's a great player to watch. Effort, too. On the field, this guy looks like he will throw his body at a wall for it. He's like Lenny Dykstra in terms of that. He's not slacking out there on the field or anything like that. When he gets beat, it even still looks like he did all he could. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:44 He always looks like it's maximum effort here. So he's player of the year following his senior year. He had 120 tackles, six interceptions. This is like in 10 games in high school. And also, he was a running back as well. Went both ways in high school. Anybody that talented, they'll put him out there for anything they can. Especially if they're fast.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Can you kick, too? Go kick field goals. He ran for 1,850 yards as well. My Christ. Which is monstrous without the defense. He didn't take any breaks. No. He's playing both sides.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And just killing it, too. That's unbelievable. And killing it. And also, in football, that was as a football player, he was also an All-American in basketball and track. So he's really good. And the basketball team he was on, that high school, won two state championships as well. Jesus Christ. So he's a winner and the basketball team he was on that high school won two state championships as well so he's a winner and a great athlete grace now now high school hey things have been besides his dad getting shot everything's been going great so far you know for him it's it's fine
Starting point is 00:16:39 it's absolutely fine i don't know what he's thinking otherwise but after prop till now terrific we're 15 minutes into the episode he's done already following from grace now grace now yeah here it is here comes the slide all right so he chooses to go to college at west virginia so west virginia university the mountaineers there so he goes to virginia west virginia and he's there you know at the end of the summer this is before the football seasons even started it's mid-august so around you know nowish except in 2002 doesn't play football yet nothing he's there uh him and a teammate of his leandre washington were at a place called dr john's lounge yeahounge, which was a bar. Sounds like a bar. And they get into a fight at a bar,
Starting point is 00:17:26 and it is said that Pac-Man struck another West Virginia student in the face with a pool cue. Yeah. He says after being called a racial slur and cutting his face up and all that type of shit, he's arrested and charged with felony malicious assault, and he's faced up to a year in prison at this point so without even playing it down wow it's already bad now if somebody did call him whatever the fuck it is west virginia who the hell knows and maybe you know that's worthy of being cracked in the head with a pool cue but you're also going to get arrested at the same time that's the problem
Starting point is 00:17:58 pac-man jones is not a tall guy correct no he's a 5'10 yeah yeah he's 5'10 i mean he's thick yeah but he's not an he's not an imposing looking person at 18 19 years old yeah i doubt he was big no he's not a real imposing guy but he's tough right but looking at that guy in a bar yeah you don't figure that guy plays football and he can probably fight probably not well he's also got a pool cue right if he's willing to hit you with a pool cue doesn't matter how well he's really kind of beyond the point at that point once the hell's angels rules take effect it's really kind of uh pointless then all the other shit goes out the window this they skilled whether it's going to be a skilled contest or not so even if the guy did blurt out a racial slur it's not illegal it's a dipshittery and the guy probably deserves to be
Starting point is 00:18:45 hit oh he deserved to get punched in the face unless you absolutely if you don't get away with it yeah you go to jail not that guy yeah absolutely that's the thing unless that guy hits you after saying that word that's the thing you can beat the living shit out of that guy you can stab him but i feel like even a punch in the face would have been probably less wouldn't have been malicious felony assault the weapon is where where that's the problem. If you went and punched this guy in the mouth, I feel like anyone would have went, well, don't call people a fucking N-word, stupid. I mean, duh.
Starting point is 00:19:13 People get punched in the mouth for that. That's what happens. Yeah, and you fucking deserve it, stupid. Unless you don't say it to somebody that also believes the same as you, then you're going to get hit. So 2002, the West Virginia season here, there's no one we've really heard of on the team because West Virginia's not a...
Starting point is 00:19:30 They have good teams from time to time, but not a lot of stars here. There is a player on the roster named Heike Johnson that I found, though, which is hilarious. H-I-K-E-Y? Heike Johnson. That's his name. Heike.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Oh, boy. Heike.ike hi i'm heike johnson heike johnson sounds like he has to go sell like heating implements afterwards for like you know hvac installation i'm heike johnson the hostess at this year smokehouse restaurant oh that too that could work too he's not even like a salesman he's not like the owner he just happens to work there and they're like your name's great sell some barbecue bar i i pictured him i pictured him going from town to town in a sad gray suit with like a briefcase full of like weird heating implement parts that he goes from like place to place and tries to sell people out of them like man that shit's from 10 years ago so you're telling me that you sell furnaces no no no no this here's a part for the furnace wait so things done today things gone downhill for hiking but if my furnace works
Starting point is 00:20:36 right now well see what happens is yeah what if i have a gas furnace yeah this part is not for you it's not never mind do you know anybody that has this part? He's got like an 87 Ford LTD with like two hubcaps, but not both on the same side. Like one front hubcap, one rear. Back rear. Not good. It's a bad look, I feel like. Heike was a running back that had a grand total of 112 yards in four years.
Starting point is 00:21:02 He'll probably be closer to what his life is today. I think we nailed his life, probably. Now, Pac-Man plays 11 games his freshman year, has one interception. years it'll probably closer to what his life is i think we nailed his life probably now pac-man plays 11 games his freshman year has one interception now while he's a freshman his grandmother died of cancer oh jesus he missed one game that year and this is the only game he'll ever miss over the course of his college career was to go to her funeral which yeah you're not gonna miss your grandma's funeral so 2002 the mountaine Mountaineers go to a bowl game. They're nine and four. They go to the Continental Tire Bowl, which is the most prestigious.
Starting point is 00:21:30 There's a lot of things in this world, Jimmy, that are a lot of prestige and the pageantry and people put tuxedos on, there's flyovers, but the Continental Tire Bowl, nothing tops it. It's like a royal wedding, basically. It's that sort of pomp and circumstance and worldwide broadcast i got news for you i'm impressed by a billion i'm impressed that continental tires make enough money to sponsor a bowl game they did in 2002 at least some shit tires yeah garbage
Starting point is 00:21:56 tires well they're they lose to virginia that year so they lose to original virginia here you have west virginia and virginia in that bowl. In the Continental Tire Bowl. Christ. Oof, boy. I hope it was in one of the Virginias. Those poor fucking people got to drive down to goddamn Louisiana. Jesus. So, Pac-Man was an athletic coaching education major.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So, gym teacher school. And a member of the athletic director's academic honor roll. Well, how about that? In his freshman year. Look at that. 2003, he is second team all Big East Conference. He has 89 tackles and four interceptions, returns one for a touchdown. This is when he starts returning punts and kicks as well,
Starting point is 00:22:37 which is a lot of his excitement. He has a couple forced fumbles. He's doing very well here. He has an 87-yard kick return in a win over Boston College, and he also has a 47-yard interception return like we talked about before. A lot of tackles, too. He's just getting better and doing everything, basically, here. 2003 of October, he is given, this is sentencing for his, for the pool cue, they give him,
Starting point is 00:23:09 you, sir, may fuck off one year in jail, but it is suspended in favor of two years worth of probation. Got it. You know, because he's a football player on the football team. And if he was just some guy who hit a guy with a pool cue he'd probably be uh they'd probably give him six months or something he would have done six months for that though right he doesn't have anything at this he's a college student wow he's a college student and plus if i would think too if you're a west virginia student and there's a good player and you start suing him you're
Starting point is 00:23:38 probably going to get pressure it's not you don't want to be that guy people call you know you'll probably get fucked with i would imagine you just want it to go away. I would think. I'm just shocked that there's no like suing of the school. He's a kid. He shouldn't have even been in a bar. That's the other thing. Well, that has nothing to do with the school.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, that's to do with the bar. Yeah. But those bars and around colleges, we all know those operate for a pool for a pool bar. And there may not have been. You could have been 21 or 18. It could have been 18 and over a wristband or some horse shit. So, yeah, there's that. That year, like we said, four interceptions, one return for a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:24:11 2003, the team goes all the way to the Gator Bowl. They go 8-5, and they lose to Maryland in the Gator Bowl. So at least that's a bowl we've heard of. That's good here. 2004, West Virginia, he plays in 12 games, has three interceptions, has a punt return for a touchdown. He's returning a bunch of kicks, 24 yards per return average. Not bad. He's elected a secondary captain on the team as well, so he's getting a leadership role here.
Starting point is 00:24:39 He leads the team in tackles and interceptions. Also, they would put him in on offense once in a while to run like ender rounds and shit like that. He'd also return punts and everything like that. He is named first team All-Big East as a defensive back and also an honorable mention All-American. So, not bad. 76 tackles, two sacks, three interceptions. So, not too shabby at all.
Starting point is 00:25:02 He is also named to the Big East Specialties, the Big East Special Teams Player of the Year as well. Of the year. Of the year. So not too shabby in 2004 there. 2004, they go to the Gator Bowl again and lose to Florida State this time. So they're going to get beat by anybody in Florida or Virginia or anything like that. Catching a lot of L's in bowl games.
Starting point is 00:25:22 A lot of bowl games. Yeah, they lost three straight bowl games there. Because I don't know why. They got their ass kicked, too. It was 41-7 against Maryland. Or against Florida. 30-18 against Florida State. So they suck here.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Now, after his junior year, he decides that it's time. He says, you know what? It's time. It's time for me to spread my wings. I've got to spread my wings. I got to spread my wings. I'm going to declare myself eligible for the NFL draft. And he does just that. 2005 NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:25:52 On the day of the draft, players always wear crazy suits and shit like that. He wore a t-shirt with his grandma's picture on it. Oh, that's nice. Which is very nice. When he's drafted, he's still on probation by the way for the fight in west virginia so i assume he had to make sure that's awesome to get permission to go get drafted by the his probation officer so should we draft this kid i don't know he's on probation currently it's a problem probably uh number one pick that year was alex smith
Starting point is 00:26:23 really yeah absolutely out of utah uh yeah for the niners as we know who's had a awful career for a long time and then she became a star out of nowhere again after being this kind of mediocre serviceable quarterback became a star and then joe theismann himself and i assume we'll walk with a limp forever forever be a terrible commentator it's done yeah that's it. Ronnie Brown, the running back, was number two. Remember him on Miami? Oh, Miami, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, good running back, actually. Great little running back. Braylon Edwards, who was kind of a disappointment always by Cleveland. Disappointment as fuck. Cedric Benson, who was, as usual, always a disappointment for the Bears. Anybody the Bears draft is usually a disappointment, for the most part, anyway, especially a running back since Walter Payton. They haven't really drafted anybody.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Did they draft Moussae Mohamed? He was good. Yeah, as a receiver. But then he fucking went away, too. He went to Carolina. But the running backs, though, since Payton, they've been trying to replace him. Neil Anderson in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's not going to happen. This is never quite going to get that guy. Benson may have been the closest, and he was still. Yeah, and he's not. Walter Payton, that's a problem when you've got a guy like that. It's like getting drafted as a linebacker for the Giants. You're always going to get the Lawrence Taylor comparison. You're never going to measure up.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Ever. You're never going to measure up to Walter Payton. No. He's just one of the top three players that ever lived. So you're probably not going to be as good as him. Cadillac Williams, number five. Yeah. Remember him with Tampa there.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And then finally, number six, Tennessee, the first defensive player of the draft chosen, Pac-Man Jones. Really? By Tennessee. First defensive player of the draft. Antrell Roll won a couple spots later. Yeah, this is otherwise, this draft is Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:28:04 This was the Aaronaron rogers sit there all right and we'll wait to get drafted draft he went number 24 to green bay otherwise yeah it's not a that cost him millions oh so many millions he made it back now i'm sure he did he'll be all right i think i don't i don't pity him by any stretch yeah no but he would have got it a lot sooner absolutely now right after he got drafted actually there's a report that uh the georgia nightclub that the georgia authorities the police investigated a report that pac-man was involved in a fight in a nightclub but no charges were ever filed against him in that case apparently it was like a big melee so he was there
Starting point is 00:28:41 who knows what happened i think it was one of those where they went, nobody's, forget it. Let's just everybody walk away, forget it ever happened. You're all guilty. Fuck it, we don't know. What time is it? Is anyone hurt or pressing charges? Then what are we doing? Let's just go home.
Starting point is 00:28:55 What's the difference? You're telling me two drunk guys wanted to fight and they did it? Wow. Fuck it. That never happens at a bar. They use pool cues? No, then fine. July 14th, 2005, a nightclub owner named Robert Gaddy says that Pac-Man grabbed his
Starting point is 00:29:11 shirt, hit him, and broke his necklace after this Robert Gaddy asked three of Jones' friends to leave the club that he was managing here. This manager told police that he asked Jones' friends to leave because they were, quote, smoking drugs. So I don't know. We don't know exactly what they were smoking, but they were smoking drugs, apparently, according to this man. They said Jones became belligerent, as people do when they're smoking drugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Whatever kind. It's very common. Quote, started cussing the victim, grabbed his T-shirt and broke the victim's necklace. That's what the warrant says. His friends pulled him off. Pac-Man's friends pulled him off, but he broke loose again, as we'll find he does all the time. People pull him off.
Starting point is 00:29:52 He'll break loose. Police will try to arrest him. He breaks loose. That's why he was a good running back in high school. He's very hard to tackle. He just keeps going. He's got a good motor on him. Very Pac-Man of him.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It is. It's like when he's returning punts. He's hard to bring down. He just keeps going. His legs are always moving that's how it goes you know on the field off the field uh so then he ran up and punched this guy ran at gaddy and hit him in the chest punched him in the chest basically as pac-man was leaving he then shouted uh racial shit at a club employee named lamar woodson which sounds like a black guy yeah i'm just i don't know a lot of white guys named lamar woodson i mean it's a cowboy in atlanta you know what i'm saying like it's just lamar woodson's a cowboy in what year i'm joking nowadays that is a so i don't know what
Starting point is 00:30:37 i don't know that's like it's not racial if it's a black guy to a black guy it's just not well i mean it is but it's not right if i'm in an italian restaurant getting thrown out i'm like you fat guinea fuck that's not a racial slur he's a fat guinea fucking i'm a guinea too so he's shit i'll call you a guinea all day long was lamar throwing it out or was lamar just like walking down he was just an employee of the club so he was like you know and you too yeah whatever the fuck and so that i don't know what unless he called him like uncle tom or some shit i guess but and then he also punched him in the chest okay so that's the problem more than the racial slur of any kind uh so he hits him in the punches him in the chest pac-man is charged with vandalism
Starting point is 00:31:15 because he damaged the necklace valued at four thousand dollars wow the fuck is that guy wearing that to work for he's at a club he's got all these ladies ladies yeah this the club here this gaddy guy said quote i don't really i don't i really don't want anything real bad to happen to him because of this but i'm doing this to teach him a lesson you can't just go around thinking you're above the law fine he will don't worry you're the guy that's gonna do it guess what it's still happening this that happened in 2005 lessons still not learned so what's the point at this point he's uh it was worth your time sir that's right he's arrested and charged with assault and felony vandalism uh there oh this was in nashville not atlanta still
Starting point is 00:31:55 though so uh he's released after he posts bond he does not make any comment to reporters his agent though says in a statement that he's been advised not to comment and that he regretted any negative publicity for the titans he's very sorry about this he says quote this is his agent regrettably there are certain individuals out there who are opportunists who prey on professional athletes for financial gain and unfortunately this is one of those incidents yeah you broke a guy's necklace and punched him in the chest i don't think he's trying to fucking he's trying to teach you a lesson he's trying to teach you a well-needed and never heated lesson so uh the titans said and they're the the silver-haired statement of the week because
Starting point is 00:32:35 there's gonna be a lot of silver-haired statements they seem to get nicer as it gets older they're like look it's pac-man you know they said that he hasn't matured enough in his decision making and his behavior despite their efforts and the league's efforts they said quote we remain confident that pac-man jones will become an important contributor to our team but in order for that to happen he's going to have to conduct himself responsibly in all aspects of his life on a consistent basis you know and not get arrested anymore before we even play a fucking game because they haven't played a game yet and he's been arrested uh so this is very familiar from college not even a down september 5th tooth he gets into a new environment he's got to get to know everyone including the police in town that's what it is he's like you know what i'd like to know the guy
Starting point is 00:33:20 out on the beat hold on let me punch a stranger in the chest and yell a racial slur at him and maybe a cop will come and i could get to know him i did not get a welcoming committee i just like to know who runs this area town i just like cops it's just i like being friends with them but it's hard to find them you know what i mean i know how to find them you gotta do something illegal then they come it's weird people call them show right up otherwise if you call them that's also illegal right so september 5th 2005 still haven't played a fucking game yet uh police have to become involved when pac-man's engaged in a loud verbal tantrum after he's told that he has to wait in line for his vehicle at the annual nashville sports council kickoff luncheon where he's a guest this is just a nice this is a nice fuck this is a nice sunday
Starting point is 00:34:06 saturday afternoon thing where people put on nice clothes and like you know pastel colored polo shirts and shit and they go meet the new draftee they gather the nashville sports council kickoff luncheon there's press there and like old people and shit and this guy freaks out because he had to wait in line for his car at the valet stand. He refused to pay for the valet and said, I don't have any money. I'm not giving you shit. And said he had no money. So, yeah, the state of West Virginia filed a petition alleging that he had also, this is another thing,
Starting point is 00:34:39 the state of West Virginia right then files a petition saying he hasn't made regular and sufficient contact with his probation officer oh my god and uh the court uh ends up extending his probation an extra 90 days this is this is the problem it stacks yeah it's stacked man it's so stackable and then it just keeps going it's a snowball it's a velcro snowball they say snowball because snowball picks up shit as it goes a house a tree it doesn't matter. Imagine putting Velcro on it. It's a Velcro snowball. It's just picking up more Velcro and dog hair, fuzzies from the laundry, and every other fucking thing. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So 2005 season, actually. Very little football in this episode. So far. There's not going to be. We'll barely talk about it. We won't't have time it'll be here for five hours uh he misses most of training camp holding out in the contract dispute oh my god and getting arrested at the same time it kills your bargaining position when you're telling someone i'll be good i'm i'll be important to the team oh hold on can you bail me out of jail? Do you know of a good lawyer in town? I met the cops tonight.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Good news, guys. Good news, guys. I made some friends. Titans were probably like, oh, that's good. He's going to the Nashville Sports Council kickoff. That's a nice thing for him. It'll be some good press. Take some pictures with the mayor, and this will be great. What?
Starting point is 00:36:02 How does he get arrested at the sport what the fuck how how's that possible he didn't have a 20 on him are you kidding me do we need to send him out with like some change do we need an envelope in his pocket don't let pac-man hey don't let pac-man leave the building unless he's got a 10 of five five ones and i also want him to have four quarters just in case okay put it in an envelope and just give it to him every time he leaves just in case he might need lunch money or valet or some shit but we don't want him getting arrested over it change of a 20 change of a 20 just keep giving that somebody break a 20 put it in his pocket put it in an envelope and give it to him every time he leaves
Starting point is 00:36:41 the facility here you go adam just in case you never know because you got to tip one goddamn person a valet one fucking cheeseburger you don't have to punch a guy for it and get arrested or hit him with a pool cue you can just use this money that we gave you incredible so the titans general manager said the titans were concerned over several off the field incidents you know because they are right and this general manager floyd reese said the contract talks broke down when pac-man balked at the titans proposed safeguards which were uh you know if you get arrested your contracts terminated or any shit like that yeah any of these you're not allowed to do this you're not allowed to drink alcohol or anything he
Starting point is 00:37:20 wouldn't do any of that shit but he does agree that he would not be paid any guaranteed or bonus money if he's convicted of a crime convicted that's the that's the compromise they got to so arrested fine he's like i'm gonna get arrested i mean that's gonna come on jesus guys you can't pigeonhole me what else am i gonna do i gotta get to know the cops in town so i'm is the plea bargain a conviction i'm gonna it's not a technically i'm not gonna arrest though yes that's gonna happen for sure plea bargain i mean i you know i'm not gonna do that i'll just deny it so it's a five-year contract that guarantees him 13.5 million dollars pretty good not a bad it's number six overall pick so that's not bad at all get you paid october 2005 they uh they officially extend his probation after he misses another uh check-in with a probation officer during the
Starting point is 00:38:11 season he plays in 15 games he starts 13 of them has a lot of punt returns he returns a punt for a touchdown which isn't bad at all no interceptions but a good season especially on special teams he makes the nfl all rookie team all right so not not too shabby uh very good he uh a lot a lot of returns to like we said uh just a lot of returns they're using him mainly in special teams february 2006 he is rested in fayetteville georgia after an incident outside of one of his friends houses here they apparently charged him with marijuana possession but then quickly took it off for some reason but they do press charges for felony and misdemeanor counts of obstruction of justice interesting which is not the first or not the last time he will be charged with obstruction of justice in one way or another
Starting point is 00:39:02 the way the police put it this is police chief steven heaton in fayetteville he says quote one of our officers was involved in a traffic stop with him and after pac-man and others ran into a home there was a physical altercation between him and the officer and he was involved in that he was arrested for that jesus they ran away into somebody's house so apparently they were being pulled over and they're like pull up in front of dude's house and they pulled up and all if we just go inside and turn the lights off he won't know we're here it doesn't make sense also don't name your kids first and last names that fucking rhyme if it rhymes knock it off steve heaton steven heaton steven heaton that's not good
Starting point is 00:39:39 at all so yeah i guess apparently the there was friends of his that were sitting uh in a car outside of a house. Because it wasn't a pullover. They said a traffic stop. But they were just sitting outside the house. Maybe hot boxing. Who knows? Apparently, they said the cops had been monitoring the area for burglaries.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And when they approached the car with probably four black dudes in it, they were like, hey. It's a little racist. Yeah. Well, it's what happens. Yeah. That's what fucking happens all the time so uh they said they weren't suspecting him of being in any involved in any burglaries or anything but when they when the police approached the car there was a verbal confrontation why you
Starting point is 00:40:14 approaching the car then right fucking leave him alone you want to see if they're smoking weed in there yeah who knows somebody's shit in the back seat. Who knows? So the cop here, Stephen Heaton, he says the verbal altercation led to a physical confrontation and they ran into a home they were sitting outside of. We had to run in and get them and there was a physical confrontation with Pac-Man and he was charged with felony obstruction. We had to get physical with him and he got physical with us. So not bad. A month later, March 2006, he is arrested for possession of marijuana.
Starting point is 00:40:44 What the fuck? That'll be dismissed a little bit later on. Really? Possession March 2006, he is arrested for possession of marijuana. What the fuck? That'll be dismissed a little bit later on. Really? Possession of marijuana. He's arrested. So that's fine. April 2006, he's got a Cadillac. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And in this Cadillac, he's got on the headrest, Pac-Man is stitched into the headrest. Of course he does. Of this Cadillac. Now, this Cadillac is seized in a 2006 cocaine bust. He's not there. It's not registered to him, but it's his truck. It's got Pac-Man in the fucking thing. Obviously, it's his truck.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's the truck he drives around. Everybody knows it's his truck, but it's registered to who knows. So, you know, he's got like a Henry Hill situation. Nothing in my name. So, he does tell a police reporter that it's his car. He loaned it to a friend of his, a Daryl Jerome Moore, for a music video. And so there was that.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And it got seized in a cocaine bust. For a music video? For a music video. Jesus. Now, three days later, Pac-Man's at a gas station in Nashville about 1.50 a.m. when gunshots are fired. He was, and if you've been in Nashville at 2 a.m., that's not surprising at all. He was questioned by police as a witness there.
Starting point is 00:41:57 They quoted him as saying the vehicle, he said that he's been, quote, falsely dragged into these matters that are completely unrelated to me. That's what he says. I don't know what, but wherever he's around, quote, falsely dragged into these matters that are completely unrelated to me. That's what he says. I don't know what. But wherever he's around, he's like a magnet for bullets. Yeah, he's very magnetic. There's bullets. There's problems and trouble.
Starting point is 00:42:14 But falsely dragged. Are you in it or are you not? Because if you're falsely anymore, he's falsely dragged into these matters that are completely unrelated to me. I am just minding my business and I'm getting roped and pulled into things that i don't even know about did he spit that out to the cops or do you have somebody prepare that i feel like that was a written statement he gave that's that's the the tennessean quoted him as saying that so he could have submitted that and writing not on tv no i would love to see him get that out one sense i wish it was taken of the night of the event. That would be perfect.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I'm sure because he had a few drinks in him probably. Now, August 25th, 2006, during training camp in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, Pac-Man is arrested. He's arrested for disorderly conduct and public intoxication at a nightclub after he spat at a woman that he accused of stealing his wallet. Some woman, I don't know, accused of stealing his wallet, and she said, I didn't steal your wallet, so he spit at her. Perfect. Perfect. Very classy. Very classy move.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Police said that later on now, after he spits at an employee of the bar, it's an employee. Oh my God. They asked him to leave, and he refused and continued to shout profanities at the woman instead. Didn't spit anymore. The judge at this point gives him six months probation on the condition that he stay out of trouble and stay away from that particular nightclub. So he's banned from a nightclub, and he's got to stay out of trouble. Good God.
Starting point is 00:43:39 He's going to stay out of trouble, Jimmy? I don't think so. He's spitting at women. Spitting at women. Oh, that's nothing. Wait till you see later on. Wait till he gets to a strip club oh my that's considered kind compared to what he does in the strip clubs so 2006 season playing for tennessee 15 games again he starts all 15 games he's got three touchdown uh punt return touchdowns really which ties a
Starting point is 00:44:02 record for a season who was the other one? Billy White Shoes Johnson was the one, and I think Devin Hester also had three that year. Really? So they both tied the record that season, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. He averaged 12.9 yards per return, which led the league as well. So not bad at all. On October 26, 2006, he is cited for misdemeanor assault for getting in some sort of fracas with a female near a Tennessee State University student at a during a private party at Club Mystic, which is a Nashville nightclub.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Of course, he got in some altercation that that netted him a misdemeanor assault charge. So nice job there. He also has four interceptions that year, which is great. January 11, 2007 is court. This is for public intoxication and disorderly conduct from before. Now, this is where the judge says everything will be dismissed if he stays out of trouble for six months, but he already had gotten in trouble in the meantime,
Starting point is 00:45:04 so I don't know what that's about. He's also going to have to complete anger management counseling, which he's apparently already enrolled in that through the NFL. He's also has to stay away from the Sweetwater nightclub, which was the first one where he got in the argument with the woman there. And he's also ordered to pay court costs and all that kind of stuff. If he meets all these conditions, it'll be expunged. So he's just got to do that like a kid who got did something wrong here now uh his attorney says he started anger management already he's all good uh that uh they said that uh you know he's already been in anger management because the an arrest makes the league go do that if you have an assault arrest here as As he leaves the courthouse, he meets up with fans and then talks to them and shakes hands and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And his lawyer said, quote, he understands that because of what he does for a living and that people know him. He's pretty much held to a higher standard, and he's going to adopt that. This is a higher standard? No, no, he's not held to a higher standard. That's the point. The point is he's not held to a higher standard.'s the point the point is he's not held to a higher standard he's held to a much lower standard much lower standard and and now he gets it after he spit on a woman but he's not even facing the music for that yet he's only facing the music for which is this this is a fucking public intoxication this is ridiculous we're so
Starting point is 00:46:20 stacked up right now i'm starting to get confused of which cases he's going to court for like i in my notes i started putting court and i put for what oh for this incident friend i put like for this incident but i'm like when was that oh that was the february not the march arrest that was it's very confusing to do this it really is i feel bad for like journalists or or the guy that's got to go to court and stand in front of the judge and tell a story which one is this your honor which hold on a sec what am I being charged with? The other fucking problem is, outside of football, all he does is court. It's his second job. He should really become a lawyer and just get paid to go there
Starting point is 00:46:54 because he's going to be there anyway. While I'm there, I've got a case I've got to defend a guy at 1230. Fuck it. Mine's up at 10, and then he's up at 1230. So February 19, 2007. This is when shit starts to really go off the rails. It's not fun and games anymore. He is at the Minx, which is a strip club in Vegas with two exes.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. Okay. And apparently there is a Houston club, a Houston strip club that's renting out this strip club for their private strip club event okay which is like they made themselves like a pop-up strip club in another existing strip club well what the fuck is that how does that even work i'm bringing in my tits right your tits have to leave for the day it's out of here time's up i'm renting these this titty fucking titty fucking jesus james this teddy establishment is mine now but what how does that work with like the fucking booze and say i couldn't get the word
Starting point is 00:47:53 viewing out i was gonna say this this this titty viewing establishment was what i was gonna get at is now belongs to me as i am paying a rent i I didn't quite get it out. So how do they deal with like the liquor license? And there's so much going on. And then also, well, it's Nevada as far as liquor license goes. You're allowed to sell glass bottles of glass glasses of scotch to people on the sidewalk. So there's really I don't know what the liquor licenses are there. You need a cardboard sign that says booze and you have to clearly state a price. I feel like and then you're within all the liquor laws. That's it. That's all it is. It doesn't even really have to be booze and you have to clearly state a price i feel like and then you're within all the liquor laws that's it that's all it is it doesn't even really have to be booze right it
Starting point is 00:48:29 could be speed piss it doesn't matter so uh there's an altercation here with an exotic dancer oh god with a dancer at the strip club now jones here pac-man's hanging out with nelly the rapper yeah we all remember Nelly. Of course. If you don't, you're very lucky that you weren't around for that terrible time. What year is this? 2007? 2007. Nelly is on the wane.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah, this is on the way out for sure. This is not. It's almost done. It's all just about over with it. Yeah, so. We're all forgetting about Band-Aids. Yeah, he's like, play my shit. And they're like, nah, it's old.
Starting point is 00:49:03 They don't want to dance to that anymore. Play your shit. And the Beach Boys tonight? You want both of those? No. What else are you looking to get? We're not doing it. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So, yeah, no Buddy Holly either. Sorry, guy. So, there's another guy there named Richard Rash. I don't know who that is. Richard Rich. Okay. Oh, Richie Rich. The rapper. They have him listed as Richard. Richard? Really? Richard Rich. Okay. I don't know who that is. Richard Rich. Okay. Oh, Richie Rich. The rapper.
Starting point is 00:49:25 They have him listed as Richard. Richard, really? Richard Rich. Okay. I don't know what that's about. It's better that it's... It's the rapper. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It's better that it's Richie Rich rather than Richard Rash because that is Dick Rash. Dick Rash. That sounds like a motocross rider anyway. Richard Rash. Yeah, Dick Rash. That's right. Apparently... So Richie Rich and Nelly are with him they are throwing money oh there's all over the place there's videos of this they're fucking throwing dollar handfuls of dollars bills up at the stage and like you know they're doing their
Starting point is 00:49:58 horse shit make it rain shit right well i can see pac-man jones's mentality at this second because i'm i'm around the same age as him. Those two guys are heroes of mine in high school. Richie Rich and Nelly. This is a fucking dream come true. In 2007, I'm successful and they're not anymore. Well, yeah. Well, they're still whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:16 So, yeah, they all have money. Yeah, they're having a good time. Which is fine. This is all fine. This is all fine. This is all fine. The problem is when the dancers begin to pick up the money, they become, Pac-Man in particular, becomes enraged at this. And, okay, he says that she was taking the money without his permission. Now, this is like putting, I'm sorry, here's some etiquette for you guys.
Starting point is 00:50:42 This is like putting a letter in a mailbox. Once you close it, it's some etiquette for you guys. This is like putting a letter in a mailbox. Once you close it, it's not your letter anymore. It now belongs to the post office and the person they're bringing it to. If you reach your arm in now, now you're the asshole, even though you just wrote that. When you throw money at a naked woman,
Starting point is 00:50:57 when that money crests to the ground and lands, that is her money. I'll go much further than that. That is not your money anymore. It leaves your hand. It's done. You have now made a motion of giving it away. Not your money anymore. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:51:09 It's gone. Once the money leaves your hand, it's gone. It's theirs now. You may as well have lit it on fire. It's all theirs. It's all gone. You've paid them money now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You can't take that back. You have made your transaction. You now get to see titties and probably do some things, depending on how much you throw at them, probably do things. You probably have a little more liberty than most guys well you're a football player you're with nelly too you could probably try to get these girls to hang out after you know they're trying to pick these girls up and that's what happens a lot with athletes they try to get these girls to do other shit afterwards and stuff like that so yeah so this right away what she is doing the dancer
Starting point is 00:51:42 completely reasonable yeah she's she's cashing her paycheck. As I say, she's taking the pay for her work that she just did. So very reasonable. What he does, very unreasonable. As she's bending down to pick the money up, grabs her by the hair and slams her head down on the stage. Oh, what the fuck? Saying, that's my money, bitch. Fucking, yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So he says he was just throwing it for show. It was just for show. It was for fun to throw it up. But then I'm going to take most of it back, and then just you can have a few bucks. How about you keep your ass at home and throw that shit in your living room? That's not how it works. That's why it's when you, anybody could just do that then. The whole point is when you're throwing money away, you must really be rich because you're
Starting point is 00:52:24 throwing money away. That's the point. That's the whole point. Yeah. Otherwise, you're you must really be rich because you're throwing money away that's the point that's the whole point yeah otherwise you're taking it back then you you didn't throw it that's crazy the shit is happening i made her dinner but i just wanted her to smell it she tried to take a bite i fucking stabbed her there's nothing else i could have done i mean it's my food yeah i made it yeah sure i put it on a plate in front of her with a napkin and a fork and shit but no fuck that so i put gas in her gas tank she started driving i was like bitch that's my gas what are you doing so i drown her in it like what are you doing so yeah he slams her head on the stage a security guard then as they will do in a strip club you can't like touch women That's the other part. If you slam one into the stage, those dudes get upset. Listen.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Rightfully so. Brush a nipple and see how fast you don't get tossed out. You assault a woman? You slam her head on the floor. You should be tossed out. He intervenes, and there's also a Pac-Man's got an entourage. There's 10 people with him, so there's half a dozen people. The security guard is fighting all with them.
Starting point is 00:53:26 This is at this point where Pac-Man threatens the security guard's life and says he'll kill him and all this shit, which he can't scream out. his left the club with a garbage bag filled with eighty one thousand twenty dollars and two Breitling watches very expensive watches uh which the police ended up getting uh later on but they were robbing the place while this was going on wow when a melee happened they said let's rob this motherfucker pick it up that quick they were like well this is a perfect time to rob the fucking strip club everybody's distracted this doesn't happen often meanwhile this is a perfect time to rob the fucking strip club everybody's distracted this doesn't happen often meanwhile this is 2007 he is 24 years old yeah yeah that is unbelievable he's 24 he's been arrested a lot dad died that's when his dad died so yeah now after the the rest of the customers left following all this shit the club owner then says that a person uh uh fraud that was with pac-man
Starting point is 00:54:26 earlier returns to the club and fires a gun into the crowd good lord of people there damaging equipment and also hitting three people including a security guard the guard was shot twice and uh one of this guy one of the people who was hit was uh this guy tom urbanski he actually was a kind of an indie professional wrestler for a while he is paralyzed from the waist down from this incident and now pac-man says he didn't know the shooter he doesn't know shit i don't know what you're talking about and the club's owner says no no no no they came in together and were hanging out and partying together earlier so he at least knows who it is he was hanging out with him was that the bouncer that he threatened
Starting point is 00:55:10 earlier too we that's not clear exactly i want it to be the same guy even if it is yeah it was cut and dry it's cut dry it was fired into a crowd and the club owner here says they that's the guy from earlier like it was a record it was yeah he id'd the guy as earlier so march 1st 2001 uh charges are finally filed by the way for the 2006 obstruction of justice charge then or march 1st 2007 this is two weeks after the strip club incident here now march 26 2007 the las vegas police department recommends to the city attorney that Pac-Man be charged with one count of felony coercion, one misdemeanor count of battery, and one misdemeanor count of threat to life, as we'll talk about here. Now, apparently, there was several people in the case were given $15,000 each by Pac-Man. So that's where the coercion charge we feel like comes in he was trying to like bribery for they're trying to say like he's trying to pay
Starting point is 00:56:10 off witnesses basically to say that he doesn't know this guy and that guy was he just came in separately we don't know him and then the battery uh for you know slamming a stripper's head into a fucking stage you can't do that and you can't threaten the life of a security guard either. So none of that stuff's okay. So also after this, they arrested a drug dealer named Daryl Jerome Moore. And there's wiretapped conversations between
Starting point is 00:56:36 Moore and his friends that revealed Moore talking about how Pac-Man bet on college football games to earn quick money. Now? While he was doing it now okay so this is what they're talking about on wiretaps this drug dealer talking to his friends about that he get basically you know takes bets for pac-man on college games which if you're an nfl player i don't think you're allowed to bet on college football probably not uh and he says uh quote
Starting point is 00:57:02 you know i was talking to him the other day about smoking and he was like man if i didn't smoke uh if i didn't smoke i couldn't take all the stress of what i'm dealing with right now so he's saying that pac-man likes to smoke weed so who cares about that but uh more concerned with the gambling yeah not that i give a shit either but i don't care personally the league tends to give a fuck so may 7 2007. What do you think he did? Assault. Opened a children's, opened a youth center.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yeah. And all for the kids. No, he stopped at 1245 AM on Interstate 65. Drunk and driving. He's headed down to Nashville. An officer clocks him at 79 and a 55. Okay. So he's driving the 2004 Cadillac
Starting point is 00:57:44 with the Pac-Man. He bought it at a police auction after it was seized he bought it back he bought it back at a police auction wow so that motherfucker bought that car twice yeah he did he paid for it had it seized caddy bought it back well he already got his name stitched in the address so he's gonna keep it kind of gotta keep it somebody buys it they can frame me now yeah that's the's the problem. They're going to say, Pac-Man. See, Pac-Man did it. So, yeah, he bought it back, and he is pulled over in that car, given a nice speeding ticket. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:58:13 He's getting back into the groove with that car. Good for him. June 18, 2007. He is being sought by police for questioning after a shooting at an Atlanta strip club involving members of his entourage. According to police at the scene, he was not present and is not being charged. But these were people that he was seen with earlier in the night. And they're trying to he's kind of just a witness type of thing.
Starting point is 00:58:37 They want to they want him to rat on people and say who was with who basically. Now, June 20th, 2007, the vegas police department announces that jones will face two felony charges stemming from the strip club melee uh he will surrender to authorities and he has two felony charges like we were talking about here uh he has to turn himself into this they said that the arrangements for him to surrender uh they were going like back and forth trying to figure out the day you know because he's not going to show up on time he's just gonna when friday i don't know i'll be there like saturday night when i can you know when i get there i gotta stop at a strip club by the way it takes a while you know i gotta slam their heads into the ground and collect
Starting point is 00:59:17 all my money so yeah they said that uh they he has to turn himself in also they described uh another guy that has to turn himself in who they described uh another guy that has to turn himself in who is his bodyguard and another member of his entourage basically he has to get everybody to do this for this for this deal to work out here so uh he's been arrested like five times since he's been drafted so far uh hasn't been convicted of anything yet though so there's that contract Contract's still in. It's still fine. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He's also been in a bunch of police investigations for shootings and everything else here. Titans owner, Bud Adams, he issued a few statements about this. Because now Jones is going to end up with a suspension, as we'll talk about here. Because he's facing two counts of felony coercion right from and threatening to kill a person so uh yeah the coercion is the actor are threatening or physically interfering while a person is trying to do something that he or she has the right and responsibility to do so i was wrong that was he was that was him getting in the way of the of the security guard doing his job basically okay yeah yeah yeah i guess that's what that was that's the coercion charge if convicted he faces a maximum of 12 years in prison and a ten thousand dollar fine so the fine probably not that much as a concern as the prison 12 years so uh his
Starting point is 01:00:37 lawyer said quote we're looking forward to vigorously defending against the charges, obviously, here. So, yeah. There's also, now they take to the media with it. And his lawyers accuse the county of leaking shit to embarrass him because he's a celebrity. And basically, anytime you're a famous person, you get arrested, you go on the offensive like a politician does. Because that's what you're doing. You're making a case. So, they go on the attack of the... Regular people can't do that because they don't have the money to have their lawyer go talk to the press right if you get arrested your lawyer no one cares no no one gives a shit no so it's not but if if he gets arrested they can attack everybody gives a shit yeah they say his lawyer says quote police saying they won't keep saying they want to
Starting point is 01:01:24 treat him like everybody else it's infuriating he isn't being treated like everyone else uh whatever we will do whatever we have to to protect adam it's not being treated like everybody else no regular people don't get told you can turn yourself in on friday or monday they just go get you that's how police work usually they go get you yeah that's it you don't have a choice of friday or monday when's a good time to pick you up they just knock on the door and then they'll That's how police work. Usually they go get you. That's it. You don't have a choice. The Friday or Monday. When's a good time to pick you up? They just knock on the door and then they'll break it down if you don't answer it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Now, this lawyer also represents one of the other guys in this case as well. It's here. So they don't name. The weird thing is they don't name. No shooter is named in this whole thing. Nobody names a shooter. So that all just kind of goes by the wayside of like, no one's going to pay for that
Starting point is 01:02:09 because none of these guys will talk about it and that's it. So they don't have anything to do. All they have to do is charge everyone with assault and shit like that. So yeah, so he's just threatened with basically, he's charged with threatening people and all this and he's still identified as a –
Starting point is 01:02:25 his friends of his are persons of interest in the shooting, but nothing that will involve Pac-Man here beyond that. Later on, there'll be a financial settlement we'll talk about, though. From that? Oh, yeah. Those people are going to sue. Oh, I imagine. The guy that can't walk anymore? He's got a lawsuit pending.
Starting point is 01:02:41 We'll talk about it now. Now, June 25, 2007, Tommy Urbanski, the guy who's paralyzed, and his wife, Kathy, they sue Pac-Man in civil court, claiming that Pac-Man bit his left ankle and was responsible for the shooting. So I don't know what goes on there, the left ankle. It also names the Tennessee Titans and the NFL as defendants on the grounds that Jones' employers knew of his erratic behavior prior to this incident but did not suspend him until afterwards. So basically
Starting point is 01:03:09 accusing them of silver-haired middle-aged white manism. You silver-haired him and let him do this. So they said had the Titans suspended him prior to this, it was NBA All-Star Game weekend, he wouldn't have been invited to the Las Vegas event and then he wouldn't have been there. the las vegas event and then he wouldn't
Starting point is 01:03:25 have been there interesting so they go all the way there they're just they're taking it back a couple steps but yeah makes sense i mean why not sue everybody fuck it who cares got this asshole you can't walk right and he's going to play football and a few more people have deeper pockets than this guy that's the thing they're responsible for him they're responsible for his behavior give it a shot. So 2007 season, he does not play because he is suspended. So what's he going to do?
Starting point is 01:03:49 He announces that he will be collaborating on a hip hop album. Of course he is. Of course he is. Him and Richie Rich. He's got a group called The Poster Boys with Z.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah. Obviously. And they release a single called Let It Shine on their MySpace page. Yes. That's on their MySpace page. Yes, that's on their MySpace page. That was only 12 years ago. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It seems like eternity. It seems like you said, you know, it seems like you said, you know, give me Rockford 4132. No, operator, connect me. We might as well have said that. Wow. It's fucking ridiculous so the that was the end of my space though oh man i was it was dying they didn't realize it yet yeah a year later justin timberlake was involved already this shit is almost done a year later it was totally done facebook had taken over the housing crisis took my space down thank fuck
Starting point is 01:04:43 hey one good thing happened out of out of the housing crisis you my space down thank fuck maybe one good thing happened out of out of the housing crisis you could read the backgrounds on people's shit now because no one else could on there so june 30th 2007 the uh it is reported that he's working out a deal with total non-stop action wrestling what the shit wrestling yeah the tna sucks a dick i'm sorry if you anybody's a tna fan but that shit is unwatchable it's fucking terrible i want an alternative too but that's not it guys i'm sorry it's a piece of shit it always was it always was and so that's where he was working out a gimmick for was with them he's trying to get some shit with them yeah the the titans coach
Starting point is 01:05:21 jeff fisher said that his contract said he couldn't wrestle, but the negotiations were for a non-wrestling role. Just to come out and be an asshole. Maybe get arrested and scuffle with a security guard. Slam a woman's head into the ground. That's all. On August 6th, a week later, TNA confirms the deal is signed. It's signed here. Jones says that he does intend to wrestle, though, as part of a tag team.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Now, after some of this legal shit, basically, he's in a non-physical role, but they're going to pretend like he's going to wrestle, though, as part of a tag team. Now, after some of this legal shit, basically he's in a non-physical role, but they're going to pretend like he's going to wrestle. They're going to send him out there like he's going to be in a fight, but then he won't be, you know, it'll take place around him type of shit. This is a piece of shit. It's a piece of shit move. That's why TNA sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah, the WWE back then or now, I don't think they would have done that. Whenever they had a celebrity, they had Tyson and Austin, they pulled them apart, and Mr. T was in a match back in the day, even though he was terrible at it. 2007, Sable would have fucking body slammed him. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That would have been great. So he does make his debut. He's placed into a tag team.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It's Team Pac-Man with Ronon killings and uh that'll keep going on for a minute here august of 2007 he does an interview and this is this is golden you know why we need it in their own words here for this it's been a couple episodes since we did it in their own words because honestly i want to see if people would notice and nobody does so it doesn't fucking matter but this one's good and i have to do it anyway. In their own words, quote, everybody keeps saying I've been arrested six times. I haven't been arrested six times. I've only been arrested twice. I've been accused and people have put out warrants on me numerous other times.
Starting point is 01:06:55 But as of today, I'm on no probation. I haven't been charged with anything. So I'll just keep I'll just keep it be keeping my head up and make sure I'm doing everything to make sure I'm all right with myself. I'm good now. I've only six times. That's a lot of excuses. Okay. You've listened to the episode so far.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Did he get arrested twice? No. Yeah, but also more than that. And then times three, I think. Yeah. So he also says, quote, I pick up the wrestling thing. Now you don't want me to wrestle i don't know what you all want me to do just sit in the house and be miserable all day i can't do
Starting point is 01:07:29 that i have to keep my spirits high i have a whole family to take care of so yeah i have to make money because i'm suspended all right so then he does a real sports interview with brian gumbel and uh he says that then this thing about the Vegas thing, he's totally innocent. He never hit the stripper. He never told the bouncer he was going to kill him. He was shocked and horrified by the melee surrounding him. He basically said, I thought that now I went there because I thought this was a nice place. I was in the mood for like a broiled chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And they said, this is a very good place for that. So I said, this looks wonderful. I said, oh, my, this young lady is taking her clothes off. The next thing I knew are all around me was just a bunch of thugs i'll be honest with you i'm going to call them what they were they were thugs mister they were thugs and they they were there was there was things flying around and people were making threats and punches being thrown and i said young lady run in the back save yourself save yourself it was it was crazy and brian gumbel said motherfucker what the hell are you talking about he got brian gumbel to say that that's amazing that never happens he got brian gumbel to black it out it never happens brian gumbel called him
Starting point is 01:08:38 the n-word and said get the fuck out of my set i will give you the back of my hand bitch and he fucking just shunted him off the stage will slap the taste out of your mouth brian gumbel will smack the shit out your pack man get the fuck off my stage before i come over there put a foot up your fucking ass you say you were there for the buffet what are you talking about no no not the buffet i i heard this was a place for a good sit down lunch is what i was. There's a lot of fast food on the strip. I was trying to get something healthy. I heard a broiled chicken sandwich. They put arugula on it.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I like arugula. I said, this is going to be wonderful. A seven-grain bread. I thought it was going to be perfect. And then a fracas. Next thing you know, a fracas all around me. It's crazy. I don't know what happened, but it was like, I'm like, this young lady, young lady, your nipple is showing. And then, oh, my goodness. And then her vagina was out. It was crazy. I don't know what happened, but it was like, I'm like, this young lady, young lady, your
Starting point is 01:09:25 nipple is showing. And then, oh, my goodness. And then her vagina was out. It was crazy. And then the next thing you know. I was really starting to enjoy myself. I said, this is the best chicken sandwich I've ever had in my damn life. They were right about this.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Arugula. Let me tell you something. Arugula loving Pac-Man Jones is my favorite man ever. He's great. Arugula connoisseur Pac-Man Jones. I love Arugula connoisseur Pac-Man Jones is my favorite man ever. He's great. A roogle-a-connoisseur Pac-Man Jones. I love a roogle-a-connoisseur Pac-Man Jones. That's a good character. A roogle-a-connoisseur Pac-Man Jones.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I was just looking for some roogle, and I noticed that you have been a complete asshole. I love a roogle. He didn't realize that there was a push over the sign. He just saw arugula. He didn't realize it was called arugula and vaginas. He didn't see half of it. He missed the other half, which is the worst strip club in all of Las Vegas.
Starting point is 01:10:17 It's called da-rugula's pussy and more. Yeah, pussy and more. Pussy and more. It's a D with an apostrophe. And in more. Right. Pussy and more. Da-rugula's pussy a D with an apostrophe. And in more. Right. Pussy and more. Darugalus pussy.
Starting point is 01:10:27 There's like a car wash on the side. That's the in more. And a hell of a broiled chicken sandwich. It was wonderful. It just had spices on it that I didn't expect. There was dill, I think, in the mayo. So much flavor. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 01:10:42 It was wonderful. So, yeah. Oh, fuck. They asked him about his friend, Daryl Moore, who was the drug dealer and said he was gambling and all that kind of shit. And Pac-Man says that he does not, he didn't know that Moore was a drug dealer. And the fact that he is, he then said, this is amazing. This is arugula.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I thought he was selling me arugula. This is what he says. He says, I did not know that Moore was a drug dealer, and I feel, quote, surprised and betrayed. Frankly, I trusted him as a friend. I told him that salad was awfully dry. I said, drugs, mister. I thought I felt funny after I ate that salad, and I said, mister, I don't know what kind of dressing you use, but I hope it wasn't alcohol-based because I am pure as the driven snow. I'm surprised and betrayed.
Starting point is 01:11:33 How dare people hang out with me and deal drugs on the side? You hang out with Pac-Man. You're clean, mister. Holy shit. Get you some Ovaltine. Oh, Pac-Man Jones hears this. This is so much fun. I do, too too i wish that's
Starting point is 01:11:46 what he was like in real life like darn it i don't gosh darn it i wish he did all this crazy shit but then he when really he was just like i don't understand i don't understand i go out and i try to have a good time i me a couple of my my my lady i we have a couple of other couples nice young people that we've been associating with socially. And we go out for a nice evening, maybe a little dancing, a little dinner, you know, something like that. And a melee. We just like to go out and talk politics and religion and just really relax. We really, this is the thing, we're interested in the causes.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Because, I mean, anybody can sit around and say, yes, the inner city has its troubles. And yes, the rural problem with the opioid problem. And then you've got to think about it, though. What is the causation of that? And we sit back and we have a geopolitical discussion about it over some arugula. Yeah. Heard and betrayed. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:12:38 So, September 9, 2007, Team Pac-Man defeats Sting and Kurt Angle to become the tag team champ yeah those are two okay sting's been around since the mid-80s as far as like pro wrestling goes he's a fucking legend and all this type of shit and kurt angle actually is an olympic gold medalist that could twist any three of these people in a fucking pretzel in two seconds so you guys find any three of these people that he's in the ring with and the other guy and fucking pac-man is not even wrestling win the titles it was ridiculous stupid that's why tna sucked still does uh they defend the titles against the dudleys or team 3d they were at the time there uh it's so i'm not even gonna fucking talk about it it's just so fucking stupid it's just so stupid tna and i refuse god damn it yeah i'm not
Starting point is 01:13:26 doing it so november 13th 2007 pac-man accepts a plea deal here uh he is to plead no contest to one charge of conspiracy to commit disorderly conduct which is a misdemeanor uh i don't remember which incident this is from no it's too many too many incidents. That's what I mean. It's not the strip club. I don't know what it is. He is given a... Oh, no. This is the strip club. The second one, right?
Starting point is 01:13:50 This is the second. Yeah. No. This is the incident here. Yeah. Okay. This is another one here. He's given a suspended prison sentence of one year probation in order to perform 200 hours of community service okay
Starting point is 01:14:06 that's the vegas thing that's vegas okay that's his plea deal there now january 15 2008 so two months later he is accused of hitting a woman in a strip club in atlanta my god pac-man i three times i'm telling you every one of these establishments i go into i'm just looking for a nice broiled chicken sandwich damn it i want a nice oat bread and a 12 grain a seven grain multiple grains and every time women start taking their clothes off and then there's violence i don't understand it i'm just trying to eat myself i have a mouth full of food how could i fight anyone and i said bitch where's the arugula? I said, bitch, there's no arugula on here.
Starting point is 01:14:52 She didn't know what arugula was, so I gave her the back of my hand like a gentleman. That'll teach her. Now she knows. Guess what she knows now. That's right. Damn it. So he's got a bow tie in when he goes in there. So this woman here is Wanda S. Jackson, and she's seeking an arrest warrant for this assault here. And the Fulton County magistrate said that she asked for a warrant after the incident at the Body Tap Strip Club.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Hell yeah. Which sounds like a fine chicken sandwich. Sounds great. No, Jesus Christ. Now, Jesus Christ. Her attorney says in the filing that the club's office was angry that Jesus Christ, that an angry Jones accused managers of stealing his money and bracelet. Okay. He goes places, accuses people of stealing shit that they didn't steal and then beats them up.
Starting point is 01:15:38 The hell out of it. Yeah. She says, quote, I was sitting in the office and he lunged at me numerous times in an effort to do grave bodily harm veronica jones an owner went into the hall to deal with a member of his entourage i followed to gawk he was in the hall surprisingly reached over or around a security guard and sucker punched me in my left eye wow around a security guard i want to hit that bitch wow that's wow she forgot my arugula let me at her let me at her mister you get out you step aside sir i have got a problem with this particular woman and you're not in for sir this is none of your concern i wonder was it a right that he like threw a nasty haymaker i'll ask you kindly to step aside i don't know it's it's got to be like a hook like
Starting point is 01:16:26 around a guy because it's like our like because he's not going over a security guard so is she like on that side it's got to be all right it's a right around and maybe hit there or is she on the other side and he like throws a nasty haymaker fuck we don't know who knows around he whacked her though sucker punched me in my left eye uh she told police the next day that she was at the club because she was handling. This is so weird. She said that she was at the club because she was handling a divorce case because she's an attorney. This woman, this Wanda Jackson, she's not a dancer. OK, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:17:01 This is a she didn't get it. He's not accused of hitting a stripper. He's accused of hitting a stripper he's accused of hitting an attorney who was at a strip club my word who was in the office yeah she wasn't involved wrong person to hit at the club first of all not don't hit anybody but especially no one knows the law yeah one who passed the bar probably not that smidge of trouble sir that's when they that's when instead of just saying he hit me they go in an effort to do grave bodily harm that's what i was wondering earlier i was like how the fuck she learned that yeah uh jesus christ so apparently
Starting point is 01:17:30 it was bruising around her left eye and all this type of shit so april 21st 2008 a document reveals that pac-man paid 15 000 each to various people involved in the las vegas shooting so this is what i mean this is giving 50 each 15 okay to basically his entourage got it you weren't there right i wasn't who was there not pac-man okay then that's kind of the the thought april 27 2008 still plays football by the way he's only played two seasons of football uh he's traded by the titans to the cowboys for a fourth round draft pick who ended up being Lavelle Hawkins. So not a good trade. Jones also reaches
Starting point is 01:18:09 a financial settlement with the Titans regarding his contract where he agrees to pay $500,000 to a charity chosen by the Titans over the next two years and that'll settle it. He signs a four year contract that includes an annual roster bonus that was structured to protect Dallas if he makes more on-field mistakes.
Starting point is 01:18:28 So his bonuses come when the season starts and he makes the team and they haven't cut him because he's punched a stripper in the face. That's how that goes. How about this, though? I remember him going to the Cowboys. Yeah. And that was a big. He's played two seasons. He's hugely talented.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And everybody knows who he is. He's one of the most famous DBs in the fucking... Well, yeah, he was on TV more than Peyton fucking Manning, only not on Papa John's commercials. He was on TMZ. On 2020. On 2020. And Jesus Christ, the FBI most wanted list.
Starting point is 01:18:59 First 48. It's always in Nashville. There you go. So April 24th of 2008, Jim Brownim brown hall of famer you know icon jim brown announced that he offered his support to help pac-man while in dallas why would he do that because he wants to try to help him here uh apparently also michael irvin and deon sanders also express willingness to try to help oh you don't want those don't hang around don't do that well don't hang around either of them neither Neither of them are in prison, though.
Starting point is 01:19:25 He's like, hey, listen, we got acquitted of everything. We'll show you how to do that shit. So, yeah, June of 2008, he decides that he only wants to be known as Adam Jones or Mr. Jones. No more Pac-Man. Good now. No more Pac-Man. Now I'm going to be Mr. Jones, Adam Jones. No more Pac-man now i'm gonna be mr jones adam jones no no more pac-man this will separate
Starting point is 01:19:47 me post 96 don't don't say mr jones mr joe that song that's horrible uh he says though this is an attempt to separate himself from his troubled past because that's what did it was the name the whole time weird you think it was punching strippers but i guess it's not so june 21st 2008 uh the uh ap associated press reports that pac-man's 1.5 million dollar home is currently in foreclosure what uh the home and 30 acres located in nashville was uh was sold on june 27th on the steps of the courthouse so there's that so lost his house. That's why he was wrestling because he needed fucking money. 2008 with Dallas.
Starting point is 01:20:28 He plays in nine games and we'll talk about that. He has a little bit of a problem with an injury and only plays in nine games. So it doesn't really do that much on the field. He is though on October 8th, 2008 involved in an altercation
Starting point is 01:20:41 with his own bodyguards. What? Now, I don't know if you remember this. Dallas, part of the deal of this is what Dallas always does. Whenever they have troubled souls that they bring in, quote unquote, they send them out with bodyguards. Des Bryant had bodyguards. They do this so no one will fuck with them.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And if anybody comes up and be like, hey, motherfucker, the bodyguards will get rid of them and you don't have to punch them in the face. And it's Dallas's bodyguards, not his own. Not his own. It's not his friend's. Cow cowboy's body this is like the secret service like they're telling you what you can do and what you can't do and you're not really in control of all right so he is pissed off and gets in a fight with his own bodyguards okay a physical altercation there's no police report no one's arrested or charged because their job is to keep him
Starting point is 01:21:21 from not from getting arrested they put him in a kennel and took him back home. That's it. So they did that. Yeah, and a little cat one, a carrier. So he is suspended at this point, though, for a minimum of four games by the NFL for violating the league's personal conduct policy any number of times.
Starting point is 01:21:37 He also, at that point, enters an alcohol rehab center. Now, in a letter to Pac-Man, Roger Goodell called the Dallas incident a, quote, continuation of a, quote, disturbing pattern of behavior and clearly inconsistent with the conditions I set for your continued participation in the NFL. So the Goodell suspends Adam Jones indefinitely here. He was just reinstated, as we know, before that. So, yeah, not good.
Starting point is 01:22:05 They said they'll reconsider him once he undergoes treatment for alcohol and all that kind of shit. We'll check on him later. Let him marinate for a little while in there. So 2009, he doesn't play in the NFL again. He does try to play for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the Canadian Football League here. Oh, yeah. They agree in principle to a one-year deal to play up there. The season runs July through November there.
Starting point is 01:22:29 And so on September 2nd, though, they announced they're no longer interested in Jones after he made some remarks in a video calling the Canadian League the UFL, which is the failed football league. The other one. He doesn't even know where he's going to play. He doesn't even know where he's going to play. He doesn't even know where he's going.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You cross a border. When you go through customs, you go, damn, this league's in another country? You'd notice it's the Canadian. It's the Canadian. Wow, what a weird thing. Everyone's super polite. Some guy bumped into me and said, sorry. I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Actually, he said, sorry, but it's the same shit. He said he was very sore about it. Sorry, sorry about it. So the Blue Bombers here, they announced that they're no longer considering signing him. The coach, Mike Kelly, said, quote, It's unfortunate that this situation became public. However, our position has remained consistent. We will pursue athletes that we believe will contribute to our organization on and off the field.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Well, wrong guy there. We have completed our assessment and due diligence, and at this time we will not be pursuing the services of Adam Jones. Very professional. So February 12, 2010, he works out with the Bengals, and the Bengals do not offer him a contract at that point. So then March 19th, he works out for NFL scouts in New Orleans, and six NFL teams attend this. I remember this.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Like, oh, he's going to work out out we'll see if he can still do anything he ran the 40 in 4.42 seconds how about that 442 40s fast yeah that's wide receiver speed uh like really good fast wide receiver speed or top-notch corner speed so the guy hasn't even played right and he's still running that but he's got fresh legs too is the other thing you look at he hasn't been tackled in a while he's been running that. But he's got fresh legs, too, is the other thing you look at. He hasn't been tackled in a while. He's been running from the law, that's for sure. His knees haven't been dinged up. Maybe it's his ego. I don't think so. I think his ego's fine.
Starting point is 01:24:12 May 10, 2010, he signs a two-year deal with the Bengals and goes through the offseason and preseason with no incidents and makes the roster and everything like that here. So 2010, he's fine. He plays in five games for the Bengals, starts one, returns a few punts, does that sort of thing. On October 26th, he sustains a serious neck injury and misses the rest of the season. So February 11th, February 2011, is the official sentencing for Las Vegas shooting.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Four years this has taken. Four years. And they say, you, sir, may fuck off one year of probation. So that's it. That's all he gets. He came into court wearing a neck brace. And yeah. Sympathy. He says, quote, I'm happy I finally got
Starting point is 01:25:00 everything behind me. This has been a long, long haul and has affected a lot of families. It's affected me personally. You've been wearing that for four years jesus son i am so sorry you must be all messed up uh he then said that he was praying every day for the people who are hurt in the shooting uh he said i'm trying to do whatever i have to do to come back to do nothing to nothing that is close to this situation ever again i'll now on, I make all my food at home. I am growing my own arugula. You should see my garden out back.
Starting point is 01:25:29 It's gorgeous. I had a problem with weasels, though. You ever have a problem with the weasels? I think I got them now, but just a weird little guy that comes up with his little face. Cincinnati weasels? Just eating all my arugula. Darn it, you get your little butt out of there, guy. And they're furry're furry they're kind of cute so i don't want to poison them or anything just a weird situation anyway back to what i was saying he said quote and i used that voice because his next
Starting point is 01:25:54 sentence is quote everything will be a-okay and he actually said that that's an actual quote so that accents you know it's just everything my life back in order, and everything will be A-OK. It's going to be golly gee williker smooth and cool and dandy. It's going to be keen. So it's going to be gay. And I mean, happy. You're going to be gay all the time. You're going to be gay all the time.
Starting point is 01:26:19 He says that he's engaged to be married and that he no longer goes to strip clubs. Not at all. He's done with everything. His attorney says he that he no longer goes to strip clubs. Not at all. He's done with everything. His attorney says he doesn't even go to any Cincinnati clubs. He's not going anywhere. He's a homebody from now on. Also because you've got to go down to that old Kentucky to get to a nightclub.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Yeah, that's the other thing. July 8, 2011, he is put in jail at 3 o'clock in the morning. What was he doing at 3 o'clock in the morning well they tore him from his bed while he was clutching his fiance snuggling tightly they tore him right from the bed it was tragic
Starting point is 01:26:51 so weird he was outside toiling in his garden he was he was damn weasels a neighbor called the cops on him he was like I'm trying to dig the weasels up I'm protecting my arugula go back to bed already no one wants to hear from you mr jones i'm mr jones and so are you so anyway jesus christ he is uh arrested on a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct
Starting point is 01:27:19 he is also accused of resisting arrest while intoxicated yeah so yeah where was he goes uh not at home probably in a nightclub at the bar so uh july 11 2011 uh three days later uh he uh he says that he was not even drinking when this happened doesn't know what they're talking about he said he was out celebrating his wife's birthday he said i just had surgery so why would i be resisting arrest why would you do any of the things you've done i just threw that money down for the stripper why would i hit her head against the stage to take it back i just did that why would i there's a anything you do you could say that punched a lawyer you spat on a woman all those equal the same as getting in an altercation on your wife's birthday yeah that's the same wild shit actually you know what that's
Starting point is 01:28:03 more wild than getting in an altercation on your wife's birthday that's like o wild shit actually you know what that's more wild than getting an altercation on your wife's birthday that's like oj going i had well i had kids with that woman why would i kill her and then expecting that to that that dismisses it over now no so uh it was at her house why would i stab her there what yeah what are you talking about that's it man jesus christ yeah he takes to twitter to defend himself d Deion Sanders also defends him on Twitter. Oh, Deion. Deion said, quote, story ain't what you think on Twitter here. According to Deion, another woman punched Pac-Man's wife, but this woman wasn't questioned by the police at all.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Instead, Pac-Man's wife was questioned, and Adams was upset that the other woman was allowed to walk away. So he apparently had to get involved. And, well, he said, I've got to get to know this cop. I don't know him very well. Haven't met this guy yet. I don't know you. Hey, do you know?
Starting point is 01:28:58 Oh, shit, he's putting my hand behind my back. Oh, sir, that was a nice hand. Can we have a conversation? Hey, listen, listen. Excuse me, sir? Sir. He also continued over a series. Sanders said, quote, he said, y'all going to let her leave?
Starting point is 01:29:10 They said, shut up. He repeated it. Then the police said, if you if you keep going, you're going to go to jail. He placed his arms behind his back and said, let's go. He had a neck brace on people. Think about it. So, yeah, apparently the two officers said they had to restrain him and place him in handcuffs while he shouted profanities that's their story uh he
Starting point is 01:29:32 pac-man apologizes to bengals fans he said the only thing i can do is be me and do what i'm supposed to do but i was not yelling at the police i did not yell profanity at the police. And by the end, and at the end of the day, I'm the bad guy. Ridiculous. Again, absolutely uncalled for. It's unconscionable, damn it.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I'm sorry. I said it. I'm sorry. I try to avoid these demonstrative terms. It's unconscionable, though. I can't take it anymore. I'm being targeted by big arugula
Starting point is 01:30:01 because I'm growing my own. They don't want me to grow my own. And I said, I don't need your Arugula, sir. So, Jesus Christ. Big Arugula. Big Arugula. They're out there. So, they have a daughter at this point, him and his wife.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Him and his punch-throwing wife? Him and his punch-throwing wife. Or punch-taking wife. Apparently taking. They have a daughter named Trinity. She is born excessively premature oh no 24 weeks uh more than four it's about halfway done oh boy so they told bleacher report uh that after they spent a month with their with the daughter at a hospital in ohio they finally
Starting point is 01:30:36 were able to bring her home after a month and uh yeah they they're quote a medical association journal saying that about one-third of babies born at 23 weeks survive so it's very touchy 24 she's at 24 so fuck's sake uh yeah so he says that he he quote i do not take it for granted you might think i'm just bullshitting with you but i swear to god and to you my girls are everything that i've got in the world i love my mom to death i love my wife too but there's nothing that can separate me from my girls so it's good now yeah this should wake him up yeah you almost lost your daughter you got a daughter the size of an arugula barely she's so tiny smaller than a broiled chicken sandwich so 2011 season yeah uh cincinnati uh he is placed on the physically unable to perform list on
Starting point is 01:31:23 september 3rd and activated on October 28th. I think that has to do with his daughter and his neck. All that together. He comes back, plays in eight games. He returns some kicks and that sort of shit. But that's about it. And he's playing for the Bengals. So who cares?
Starting point is 01:31:37 January 15th, 2012. A jury orders. This is the civil case for the Las Vegas shooting. Oh, boy. A jury orders Pac-Man to pay $11.6 million to Urbanski and Aaron Cudworth, who is a bouncer who was also wounded for his role in the shooting. He says he plans to appeal. Holy shit. I should have done a you, sir, may fuck off.
Starting point is 01:32:01 That hurts worse than a year in jail. No doubt. And he only made 13.6 total yeah that was cut in half yeah because they didn't play all four years and there's 10 of that gone and oh it's he doesn't have he doesn't have that he doesn't have that liquid i'll tell you he lost his house yeah for christ and it was a 1.5 million dollar house so if you couldn't pay for that 10 times that uh january 18th he pleads guilty this is three days later so he's just like i'll just hang out at court is there a hotel right by the court because i don't feel like
Starting point is 01:32:29 coming back got a few dates lined up you know how it goes uh it's good arugula farm down the way he pleads guilty to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct in ohio here uh this is a non-jury trial it was it was a misdemeanor charge of resisting arrest. It's that whole thing here. He serves. He's going to get a year of probation, 50 hours of community service, and a $250 fine plus court costs. He could have received a maximum sentence of 30 days in jail. So, yeah, he was shouting profanities and resisting arrest.
Starting point is 01:33:01 This was the neck brace resisting arrest incident. profanities and resisting arrest. This was the neck brace resisting arrest incident. He says that he realized he apologized in court to the police for his conduct, and he realized that he, quote, could have handled the whole thing a lot better. I'll tell you. Listen, guy, that's just a lot better. The judge told him that he did not know how, quote, someone with your ability risks your career with this type of behavior.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Indeed. Thank you. Hey, dumb fuck. Yeah, yeah. You know how much money you make? A lot more than me, and I wouldn't risk this. No. So you're stupid ass, and I can do this until I'm 75.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I'll be senile, and I'll still be fucking sending people to prison. I won't even know where I'm sending them. I think I'm going to send them to Candyland, and it doesn't even matter, but I'll keep this fucking job. You got about eight years before your ass is on the street. And that's just with athletic prowess. Yeah. If let's say you get hurt.
Starting point is 01:33:50 You're fucked. It's over. You mister. Didn't you just get a neck brace off of you? Average is three years, bud. You're already pushing the boundary. No shit. So, yeah, the they keep saying that his attorney says that.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Actually, I'm sorry sorry the prosecutor said quote this is unprofessional behavior he told jones that if he wanted to be regarded as a professional you need to act like one at all times that's what they told him bengal spokesman jack brennan said that pac-man quote handled this issue in a responsible manner and we support both the legal system and his efforts to put this behind him silver haired jack silver hair brennan here the bengals don't they're like at least he didn't have a machine gun on him like everyone else that gets arrested on our fucking team jesus so march 13 2012 uh he is declared a free agent and then 10 days later the bengals re-sign him as an unrestricted free agent.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Right. And he'll play there for years, as we know. Now, June 2012 is the appeal for the money judgment here. This is the Tommy Urbanski paralyzed guy here. Apparently, Urbanski's bones were shattered here. Now, he claims that Urbanski claim this is civil court. So the legal precedents are a lot lower. The hurdles you have to jump over. He claims that the shooter is a guy that Jones paid $15,000 to.
Starting point is 01:35:18 So that's what he claims, making Jones responsible, obviously, for this whole thing. Jones's lawyer said there's no evidence that Jones was behind the shooting. She says that, you know, this is ridiculous and he didn't have the cash to cover this because he won't receive the first paycheck of his season until even September. So he has nothing. His lawyer said, quote, it's obviously a devastating amount for him financially. He's worked really hard to make a comeback with his NFL career. He doesn't make enough money to pay that judgment now there's that uh the uh jesus christ she said people
Starting point is 01:35:51 perceive him as a person who's able to pay 11 million dollars adam doesn't even get paid until he plays his first game and it's not for 11 million dollars by the way so uh yeah the uh this was also the cudworth guy got 1.3 million and then the other guy got the rest of it. So this is fucking amazing here. So they decide that, you know what? You're right. That was a harsh $11.5. That's a little much.
Starting point is 01:36:17 How about $12.7? Holy shit. That's the problem when you appeal a thing like this. They went up on it. Oh, Jesus. So he ends up getting 12.7. And their lawyers said, the victim's lawyers said, quote, I'm pleased Mr. Jones has finally been held accountable. They said he wasn't worried about an appeal or his alleged inability to pay the award.
Starting point is 01:36:38 The lawyer said, quote, if he's making money, I'm going to be there trying to collect it. Oh, Jesus. So he's got some shit to do. He also said they've got to clean up the racks, all of them, talking about him and his entourage. 2012 season, he plays all 16 games, though. No interceptions, but does have a punt return for a touchdown. 2013 season, the Bengals re-sign him to a three-year deal
Starting point is 01:37:01 because 2012 was uneventful over the season. Didn't get arrested, played all 16 games. This year, he plays in all 16 games again. Has three interceptions and a touchdown. So he's really coming into his own here until June of 2013, right before the season here. He's arrested on one count of assault for slapping a woman outside of a bar in Cincinnati. He's released on his own recognizance ahead of the court proceedings here. He says on Twitter, quote, just got arrested for protecting myself.
Starting point is 01:37:35 I will not let this break me or change what I have worked so hard for. His agent said, quote, he hit a woman in the face after he thought she may have thrown a beer bottle at his head there's video of this i saw surveillance video it's real choppy because it's like not smooth but she clearly throws a drink or something in his face and then he fucking hits her that's what they're like it's it's like a patio of a bar and you know there's like a gate like a fence that runs along and there's tables inside like a sidewalk cafe type thing and everyone's drinking out there and smoking and he comes from the from the sidewalk and he's talking to some woman and it's right away it's contentious there's a there's a problem because there's a woman sitting down like right where he's yelling and
Starting point is 01:38:18 she gets up and you see her move like oh shit there's some shit i don't want to be involved she gets up and looking back and forth and then some other woman comes in and then you see something it's dark and shit whatever but something flew in his face and then i think it was a beer and then he hit her and you just see her fall down well and that's the other part of like tmz and and these news sites that just talk about what happens in celebrities lives lives. And it creates and promotes an environment when that person's out, people just think they can just say shit to them or do shit to them and bait them.
Starting point is 01:38:51 Leave him the fuck alone. He's clearly a dangerous man. Here's what you can do. You can not go to nightclubs if you're that guy. You can go, when I go out, people fuck with me. I'm going to stay home tonight. I'm going to have all my friends over here. Clearly he's a
Starting point is 01:39:05 dangerous fucking guy like i'm not gonna be the one that walks up to him and goes ah pac-man no no absolutely not it's like the fucking tom segura joke there like he's he's a frightening man he really is he's an angry dude so and you get shot when you fuck with pac-man well at least get your head slammed into a stage when you collect money for services rendered. She had her tits out. She did her part. So, I'm sorry. Just really pick up some cash.
Starting point is 01:39:34 I would say so. September of 2013, he is arrested on a Monday morning from a Sunday night on disorderly conduct charges for making offensive comments to police while drunk at a traffic stop. He was the passenger in the vehicle that was being driven by his fiancee at this point. She's being pulled over. This is Tishana is her name. It's the same woman.
Starting point is 01:39:57 She's being pulled over by police for doing 60 in a 45. They're administering a field sobriety test on her and Joan starts yelling at them. Apparently, officers reportedly, they asked just to take the breathalyzer. She refused, so she's cuffed for DUI. If you refuse the breathalyzer, they just take you in, and that's how it works. We'll figure out another way.
Starting point is 01:40:17 That's right. He instead gets super angry and all pissed off and yells at the police until they go, you know what? We're taking you too. And so they arrest him. They're released apparently without bond and they're supposed to both go to court together. God damn it. You know what, though? I will say this.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Yeah. This is nice. A lot of times you see these professional athletes and they're out and they're doing shit and their spouses aren't included. They're going to court together. Yeah. This is is love they're going to walk in hand in hand i'm sure they're going to share a lawyer and they're going to have police accuse them and then they're going to accuse the police of something else right together in a counter suit it's going to be wonderful i think so i think that's the fifth anniversary it is yeah the silver bracelets it's
Starting point is 01:41:03 that's that's always always so it's at this point where they're even tishana is like okay look we owe 12 million dollars okay we owe more than we own we're never gonna make that fucking money uh this is we're going out and getting every time we go out someone's whether it's adam excuse me whether it's your fault or not every time you go out i have to bail you out of jail yeah and now i'm involved in this too and you got arrested even though you didn't have to so every time the doorbell rings i'm hoping it's ed mcmahon yeah or or not the police every time a bell rings a pac-man gets handcuffed that's what happens it's like
Starting point is 01:41:46 and there's no ed mcmahon with a big check it's a terrible life it's called it's a great movie every time a bell rings pac-man gets some handcuffs it's just fucking oh dragged away so she's like she lays down the law at this point says we're gonna be homebodies from now on we're gonna fucking yes we've got a new house it's not forecl says, we're going to be homebodies from now on. We're going to fucking, yes, we've got a new house. It's not foreclosed on. We're going to be homebodies. We're going to make ourselves comfortable. We're not going to go out and fuck around anymore.
Starting point is 01:42:12 God damn it. I'm tired of this shit. We have a kid that almost died. Let's get our heads out of our asses. And they do. They're going to redesign the whole thing. It's very nice. And then they're waiting one day.
Starting point is 01:42:21 And who comes to redesign? And it's Dexter Manley, damn it. Interior designer from New York City. And he says. How is it you've come to arrive here? Like, seriously, I get. OK, arugula is delicious. I'm not going to lie to you at all.
Starting point is 01:42:42 But this is you are white trash. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're white delicious. I'm not going to lie to you at all. But this is, you are white trash. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you're white trash. Strip clubs, you're taking back your money at a strip club? Robbing the places with garbage bags? Yelling at police officers and punching women in the face? This is trailer behavior. Do you understand that?
Starting point is 01:43:00 Do you understand? I realize that you had your housework closed down and maybe you had to move into a trailer, but you don't have to take on the properties of a trailer person and at this point sir you're white trash i'm sorry i'm sorry it's terrible i'm embarrassed for you that's the thing like i come over and i can feel in the air there's a level of embarrassment that's just it's seeping up it's seeping up and that is that a broiled chicken sandwich that's delicious okay i'm gonna have that and then i'm gonna go now and poof in a poof of boa and arugula feathered bow and arugula he's gone and pac-man was just about to punch him yeah he was just about to throw a gay slur out of like is that a bitch and then he's like where that motherfucker at and
Starting point is 01:43:40 it didn't happen so uh what he does is instead pac-man returns to wrestling what because that's the smart this late uh really yes uh 2013 he returns to tna impact wrestling and uh apparently him and a defensive end that's from the from the bengals practice squad were sitting in the front row and they get into an altercation with a couple other guys right and they jump the guardrail and they body slam the wrestlers in the ring. So Pac-Man body slams a man who does that for a living for some reason. July 5, 2014, Pac-Man and Tashauna Holmes get married. Oh?
Starting point is 01:44:17 They get married. They'll have three children together total. They have two at this point in time. 2014, he plays in all 16 games, three interceptions, has a 97-yard kick return at one point, which is damn impressive. Makes first-team All-Pro. Wow. Which is, that's the best.
Starting point is 01:44:34 In his 30s. Yeah, that's not Pro Bowl where there's like 14 of you. There's like two first-team All-Pro cornerbacks, and that's it. So he's one of them. Pretty impressive here. Great year for them. January 9th, 2015, the Nevada Supreme Court holds up the order for Jones to pay $11 million to Urbanski and $1.3 million to Aaron Cudworth, who was shot in the thing.
Starting point is 01:44:59 So that is official. That's appeal of an appeal. Unbelievable. Fuck off and pay these people 12 million dollars wow uh 2015 plays in 14 games has one interception makes the pro ball that year uh there's an issue in the playoffs this is the year with uh they're playing the steelers in the playoffs and uh joey porter i remember this went from being a player to a coach in the fourth quarter uh i guess would he trip him or something yeah and jones got all up in his fucking business up in his face and uh
Starting point is 01:45:30 there ended up being a penalty a penalty to pac-man for unsportsmanlike conduct and the bengals were leading 16 15 god damn it but back-to-back penalties drawn by jones and then perfect too after that it was perfect to fucking pain in the ass. Yeah, an idiot, too. That moved the Steelers into field goal range and allowed them to win the game 18-16. And Cincinnati's curse continues. And that's being a Cincinnati football fan, everybody. How's that feel?
Starting point is 01:45:59 That's got to sting, huh? Can you imagine? Always pull the feet from the jaws of victory. It must be fucking exhausting. Every time. You're still seeing John Taylor catch that pass in the Super Bowl from Joe Montana. You're still seeing it as this is going on. They close their eyes and blink and see that catch.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Oh, you know they do. Pac-Man's fined $28,940. It's eventually reduced to $12,500 after appeal, and Porter gets fined $10,000 for his act. He should have been on the field, too. Get the fuck out of there. You don't have pads on anymore, you fucking idiot. This incident led to the creation of the Joey Porter rule,
Starting point is 01:46:39 which prohibits assistant coaches from going onto the field. Only the head coach is allowed to wander onto the field, which makes sense. You can't have people, all that big swarm of people over there. March 9th, 2016, he signs a three-year deal to remain with the Bengals. Pac-Man, not Joey Porter.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Now, at one point right after this, he's speaking in an interview about how much golf he plays. Why is he doing that? Why is he talking about where he spends money? Don't talk about that, you idiot. I don't know. They've got a nice arugula there on the ninth green. Why is he doing that? Why is he talking about where he spends money? Don't talk about that, you idiot. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:47:09 You know, they've got a nice arugula there on the ninth green. Well, actually, what they do is, in the clubhouse, the restaurant there, spectacular arugula. It's just wonderful. It's a broiled chicken, I believe. It's not even a grilled. It's a broiled. So you get, it's just none of the juices. It's going to be very healthy so i'm getting very low in saturated fats they trim anything off of it it's wonderful after 18 holes it's a
Starting point is 01:47:32 refresher it's a pick-me-up a nice a nice spiced mayo it's a spice it's well but they did a pesto i think i believe it's a basil i think it's a pesto mayonnaise which you don't get a lot i'll be honest it's not as popular as you think. I believe there's a dill and that's what kicks it up. It's the dill. You've got a very gangster black guy saying mayonnaise mayonnaise. It's the dill. So, yeah, they asked him if his wife ever quote cracks the whip in regard to all the golf he plays.
Starting point is 01:48:07 And he says, quote, I wouldn't say she has me on lockdown. No, she does have me on lockdown. I lied. And so he says, quote, she lets me get out on the course whenever I want, but you can't play every day. I mean, geez, there's other things to do.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Quote, he actually says, but you can't play every day. That'll just be him from now on. Quote, she actually says, but you can't play every day. I'll just be him from now on. Quote, she'll say, don't forget about me and the family. It's a love hate relationship with golf, but I think she understands how much I care for the game. It relaxes me. It relaxes me. I'm playing the stocks all week.
Starting point is 01:48:37 You know how it goes in the office. I take the train home and I'm like, honey, it's just a brutal day. Just terrible. You know, the other benefit about golf is that it makes my arms tired and I can't punch bitches. When I throw money onto a stage and a woman goes to pick it up, my instinct is I should slam her face upon the stage, right? But then my arms are tired from all my golfing and arugula farming and I say, you know what?
Starting point is 01:49:02 She's earned it. Never mind. I let her have it. So 2016, he's golfing. He's playing for the Bengals. Plays in all 16 games. One interception here. January 3rd, 2017, he is arrested.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Though, I mean, let's not go crazy. He'll play in all 16 games, but he's going to get arrested. He's arrested in Cincinnati for obstructing official business, disorderly conduct, assault, and a felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance. Fuck yeah. Wait, what? With a bodily substance.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Spit or piss? Let's see here. He yelled, cursed, and beat on a glass door at a motel. Okay. With an M. Yeah. No. No.
Starting point is 01:49:39 He also assaulted a security guard by pushing and poking him in the eye. What? Police said that while- Is that fucking Three fucking three stooges what are you doing that's what's ridiculous while he's being taken into custody he put the hand up between the block getting poked in the eye on himself yeah he's smart uh not so fast mister that's what he said uh apparently while he's being taken into custody police say he refused to get into the car and assaulted an officer by kicking and headbutting him. Okay? There is a dash cam video of this, 20 minutes long, of his transport.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Also, you can hear him yelling, quote, suck my dick 11 times. Fuck you, bitch, at least 21 times from the backseat of the car. What? 11 suck my dicks, 21 fuck you bitches. He gets two fuck you bitches to every one suck my dick. Fuck you, bitch, suck my dick, fuck you, bitch. Fuck you, bitch, suck my dick, fuck you, bitch. Why does he need to say that so much?
Starting point is 01:50:38 That's what he, that's how he felt. It's in his heart, Jimmy. That's what I'm saying. I'm punching it in my chest. It's in his heart. He feels it. It's like, I really want. That's what I'm saying. I'm punching it in my chest. It's in his heart. He feels it. It's like, I really want you to suck my dick because you're a fucking bitch. So fuck you.
Starting point is 01:50:52 I feel that shit. Then he told the officer, quote, I hope you die tomorrow. Yeah. Why? Because he didn't suck your dick. You didn't suck my dick. Fuck you, bitch. he didn't suck your dick you didn't suck my dick fuck you bitch so uh later on at the jail while he's being processed uh there is a jail nurse there and he spit in her face oh jesus which
Starting point is 01:51:12 you can't spit in the this fucking poor woman works at a goddamn prison she makes 50 grand a year and you're spitting 50 i mean at best she ain't making 50 in a fucking tennessee jail nurse she's probably making like a school nurse probably makes 36 grand a year she's dealing with these assholes half the people that come in are fucking homeless and she's got to have gloves on and trying to get tuberculosis and everything else and this dickhead spitting at her spitting in her face i'm sure it was her face right i'm sure it was yeah i spit in the face of the jail yeah of the female jail nurse so So, May 15, 2017, he accepts a plea agreement, Pac-Man does,
Starting point is 01:51:48 pleading guilty to one count of obstructing a police officer. He received credit for time served, gets two days in jail. Wow. Just skating, that's why. That's amazing. Wow. 2017, July 21, the NFL suspends Adam Jones
Starting point is 01:52:04 for one game for violating the league's personal conduct policy. They said, quote, while it is our understanding that the appropriate apologies have been made publicly, they do not completely negate your behavior and admission of culpability for the underlying act. And he said, you know what? So that's the appropriate. The punishment fits the crime. He said, you know what? That's reasonable, sir. Sir, that's reasonable.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Can I offer you a bundle of arugula as a peace offering you know what's fascinating about this because it feels like each judge that's passing it on down the line is just giggling their ass off when they're like you're gonna have to pay 12 million one day this dude's on the hook for 12 million he hasn't gone anywhere he's never gonna do anything he could work at mcdonald's and he's gonna be making like two bucks an hour. It doesn't matter. He is fucked. So they lift his suspension September 12th, 2017. Plays in nine games
Starting point is 01:52:51 that year. Has one interception. November 2017 has his first son. Really? He's got daughters up till now. Has his first son. No. Adam Jr. You fucking bet your ass. Why would you do that? Of course it's Adam Jr. Of course it is because this is a great name to have in this world you want to be and what do they call him quote little pac-man all right
Starting point is 01:53:12 i don't know they're gonna call him pac-boy no it's pac-boy so yeah i want him to be to have my stigma attached to him at all times i don't want him to have a fresh start gonna have to be on the hook for my 12 million oh yeah because they're constantly gonna mix up the name he should have named him he should have named him arnold penny better the fourth is what he should have named him nothing to do with me should have named him arugula arugula fucking jones and they would have never known oh they would have known they would have found out damn that pac-man is a roogala it's always a trail of arugula wherever there's a crime he punched a woman in the face uh ripped the necklace off the bouncer and then police found him from a trail of arugula leading to a four-star
Starting point is 01:53:54 hotel up the street should have named him with two middle names and it should have been i am not jones's fucking kid so So, wow. Incredible. He hurts himself in December of 2017, and the Bengals place him on the IR. March 9th, 2018, the Bengals announce that they have declined the option in his contract for 2018, making him a free agent. Uh-oh. July 8th, 2018. My goodness. He's at the Atlanta airport, which we've spent much time at
Starting point is 01:54:26 lately uh he's there he is caught on tape uh exchanging words as they put it with an airport employee i think i've seen the guy that was there that was atlanta airport shit now it makes all the sense of the world i wanted to also oh man i totally get that place i'm on his side here 100 when you hear the incident also it's totally not his fault. And anyone who's been in that fucking airport in Atlanta tried to get on the tram thing as everyone else is getting off. And you go, couldn't we do one side off, one side fucking on? Because then the doors are closed and I can't get on.
Starting point is 01:54:59 In New York, they know how to get on and off fucking subway. Some here, some there. You don't just fucking plow out and then everyone else goes on the platform who's like i just want to catch the next one no jesus christ people at the airport just that work at the airport they just walk down the line they just and they just shout orders at people they're like but what but which order is mine we don't know what you're talking about me go to terminal b and i don't know where the fuck that is where is that where's the
Starting point is 01:55:25 train do you mean me or this fucking guy what flight what airline who are you what's happening where's my arugula what fucking year is so you know what happened that's what ended up happening it's a guy named frank reagan r-a-g-i-n uh apparently they get in an argument and pac-man does not start this shit i don't know if he started the verbal shit but apparently this i watched the video this frank reagan guy fucking shoves pac-man and takes a swing at him oh now pac-man's with a woman and pac-man's like oh it's on now motherfucker and he puts down his popeyes bag he got a bag of popeyes chicken i know where he got that from oh so do i i was at that gate he puts the popeyes down and starts taking his backpack off he's like oh no i'm gonna fuck this guy up quick never mind no no no no no no sweetheart
Starting point is 01:56:14 i'm surely doing this honey excuse me can you please hold my belongings while i thrash this gentleman thank you i'm on the hook for 11 million dollars i'm about to take it out on this fella i don't give a shit so i am perfectly within my rights i already know yeah this guy fucking starts swinging on pac-man so pac-man goes all right motherfucker takes his shit off and comes at him and pac-man ends up he takes a couple of swings at him i don't know when you can't really see where he hit him but he knocks him pretty fucking kooky for a second there knocks frank reagan on his fucking ass and dude's sitting there like what the fuck happened and then pac-man comes over and pops him on the forehead again like bitch stay down this dude was big too he was a good six foot five he was bigger than pac-man and pac-man though was not having that shit he was like all
Starting point is 01:56:58 right it's a the look on his face was like i cannot wait i've been waiting years for this finally i'm not the instigator literally you swung on me i am gonna fuck you up for real now and i'm allowed you like a vegas stripper thank you fuck yeah uh he ended up yeah knocks him to the ground one last punch there uh jones not arrested at all for his part in it because dude attacked him it's all on film uh reagan though is charged with two counts of battery for fucking with pac-man yeah he should and also he declined medical attention for a facial laceration for being punched in the face again this show not not not an example of it but tmz is is fucking responsible for that kind of that kind of altercation this guy recognizes
Starting point is 01:57:42 adam pac-man jones and thinks I can say whatever I want to him because everybody makes fun of him everywhere else. Yeah. Sometimes you don't get to just take swings at people. I'm in my basement. I'm not saying this shit to him. I'm not walking up to him being like, listen to this, please. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Here, please listen to me mock you for two hours. That's not what I'm saying. I got something to say about you. I got something to say. That's not what I'm saying. I have something to say about you. I got something to say. So, yeah, later on during his court appearance, this is amazing.
Starting point is 01:58:13 His court appearance, this Reagan guy was emotional. He was in a wheelchair. He had broken his leg at some point here. He's in a wheelchair and he's burying his head in his hands crying. So Pac-Man posts a picture of it on Instagram of this guy at the table with his head down in a wheelchair and it says when you lost the fight your job at your leg and and you get found guilty that moment you realize that you started it all oh my god which is totally warranted this guy did all of this to himself but it's also kind of fucked up this guy's just some loser who worked at an airport and now he's fucking doesn't even work at an airport anymore
Starting point is 01:58:44 now he's going to jail and he's got beat up by Pac-Man and everyone saw it on TMZ I think that's enough for this guy Frank Reagan's had enough I would say let's leave Frank alone from now on he took his lumps and he got what he deserved he got plenty
Starting point is 01:58:59 2018 August 26, 2018 the Denver Broncos sign old Pac-Man to a one-year contract. He does play in seven games for the Broncos, and including an interception. It doesn't matter. And you were very disappointed. Because they are terrible. It didn't matter at all.
Starting point is 01:59:14 And on November 21, 2018, the Denver Broncos cut Pac-Man Jones. He's done at this point. He's not a lot left in the tank here. But he hasn't officially retired up to this point in the story. February 26th, my God, 2019. He is arrested, obviously. Otherwise, why would I say a date unless it's followed by
Starting point is 01:59:34 he's arrested. He's like the Vernon Maxwell of football, this guy. It's fucking amazing. He's arrested in the middle of the night at the Rising Star Casino in Rising Sun, Indiana. Not the Rising Sun Casino at the Rising Star Casino in Rising Sun, Indiana.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Not the Rising Sun Casino, the Rising Star, because that would make it Japanese. Right. Instead, it's the Rising Star Casino in Rising Sun, Indiana. It's weird. Indiana names their shit after other countries. Because we did Peru, Indiana. This is Rising Sun, Indiana. What the hell is going on, Indiana?
Starting point is 02:00:01 Don't you have your own identity? No. You fucking break. They don't want you to know what they're about. That place is terrible. That's true. They named half the shit after Larry Bird, the other half after Reggie Miller, and they're like, we're out of ideas.
Starting point is 02:00:14 We had to rename everything we named after Bob Knight, so now we're fucked. We don't know what to do. He had a French lick. Everything is just nothing to do with here. No. He's arrested in a casino for allegedly adding chips to his bets after he won games. Oh, that's brilliant. So he would try.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Well, yeah, if you can get away with it. If you're in a fucking alley somewhere. I was three million. If you're on a camera. I was 12.3 million is what I just won. Right? 12.3 million? Don't even pay me. Pay these other two people. I don't want to these other two people i don't need it it's for them
Starting point is 02:00:48 so you can't do that in a casino on camera they tend to you know casinos are really touchy about cheating and shit right so uh now it's on a video i can't tell if he's fucking doing it or not but whatever him and his wife and his wife starts shooting another video here uh asked who accused him of cheating and what proof they had basically like why am i why are you accusing me of cheating after they came over what proof do you have at this point pac-man also cursed at the officers calling one of them a quote bitch-ass n-word yeah which is great this is this is go-to i'm sure well no then he went back to his other go-tos. Oh, he snuck my dick?
Starting point is 02:01:26 Well, he's got a few hits that he likes to play. He's got his Hotel California that he's going to break out at every fucking show. He can't get away without playing it. You know what I mean? It's just one of those things. That's his bitch ass ass. Play piano, man.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Fine, fine. Okay. He knows what it is. The start me up is coming. It's all right. So he calls him that he then allegedly said quote i will kill you oh no to an indiana gaming commission enforcement agent while being taken into custody uh while he's doing that he apparently uh tried to make
Starting point is 02:01:58 a run for it when the gaming uh commission agents here handled handed him over to law enforcement once he was caught and subdued he then said quote fuck you suck my dick so then he went back to it so he's got three go i will kill you fuck you and suck my dickers big those are his yeah those are his homers he'll throw in a bitch ass n word if it comes up if he's feeling it that night that's the thing he's got to be feeling it so i bet you that's the racist thing that he said to that other guy that's not racist like i said not from him it's not racist no it's like me calling a guy a fat guinea fuck you but it's your fat guinea they said it's a racist comment yeah i'm sure bitch ass guinea i could say that shit you fat wop son of a bitch say all this shit i want yeah but that he can say that he's certain i can't he's
Starting point is 02:02:46 earned the right go for it it's all yours so whatever i don't want it so in the video he's telling his wife repeatedly to call 9-1-1 to get the cops there which is a problem because she's on the phone filming it so how can you call and film at the same time that's an issue yeah so uh yeah she's saying he's saying get the cops there and uh he doesn't understand that the agents are legitimate like law enforcement officers they're already here they're within their jurisdiction here and he's like get the cops these these rent-a-cops are taking me away type of thing here uh she says he says dial 9-1-1 right now he says uh he then he tells his wife, okay, call the police. The one guy says, quote, we are the police.
Starting point is 02:03:28 And she says, no, we're going to call the city police. And then they argue a little bit more. And he says that he hasn't assaulted anybody, so why the fuck is he in handcuffs? They're like, well, when you get arrested, you know, whatever. They don't release him, and that's when he becomes belligerent. He says, don't touch me, don't touch me don't touch me why are you touching me uh they try to you know get his handcuffs and try to they're trying to subdue him at this point here now they tell him to stop yelling and his wife went on a tirade at this point about quote he can do what he wants and say what he wants
Starting point is 02:03:59 it's a first amendment issue she then says he didn't put his hands on nobody. He can say what he wants. It's called freedom of speech. That's what she says on the video, exactly. It's called freedom of speech. He tells his wife, quote, call 911 on your phone right now. And his wife says that she already did. She's calling right now. Then you can hear somebody saying, I need someone up up here asap that's her on the phone and then pac-man starts screaming over and over again freedom of
Starting point is 02:04:30 speech freedom of speech freedom of speech attica attica he is screaming freedom of speech over and over again then he pauses and says fuck you you. Fuck you. Bitch ass N-word. Freedom of speech. That's how he ends it off. Fuck you. You bitch ass N-word. Freedom of speech. I am blown away.
Starting point is 02:04:55 This is amazing. That he left suck my dick at home. That was earlier. He's trying out new material now. He's in different order. He's like, what if I close with? Yeah. What if I close with? What if I close with my closest freedom of speech if i close with bitch ass n word i'll close with that rather than open with it and then i can put a suck my dick in maybe later
Starting point is 02:05:13 as like an encore because if they call me back out i gotta have something i'm gonna need some material that's when i break out my suck my dick this is incredible this was just recently this happened six months ago not even six five months ago that's a man that owes 12 million dollars yeah and he's at a casino go i'm gonna make it up so they walk him back to the security office with his wife screaming at them and filming them the whole way uh she insisted on following them to film the arrest on her cell phone uh uh he's uh his wife said the quote we want to have him in our eyesight, is what she said. I want to be able to see him. The agent said, quote, there's cameras everywhere.
Starting point is 02:05:50 You're in a fucking casino. You think there's a square inch of this motherfucker that we aren't watching? Everybody sees it. And so she then says, quote, he needs to be in our eyesight. He needs to be in our eyesight, period. There's too many situations where the police are beating on people. He needs to be in our eyesight period there's too many situations where the police are beating on people he needs to be in our eyesight so at one point uh jones turns and yells to an agent norton who's walking behind him and just says bitch and then he turns maybe you don't want to videotape this then he turns to another officer and says quote you ain't shit
Starting point is 02:06:21 you ain't nothing but a bitch. So then there's that there. So he's taking you're in handcuffs, Mr. Jones. So then when the agents are handing him over to Ohio County Sheriff's deputy officers, he tries to make a run for it again. So this isn't a punt return. No, sir. These are the police.
Starting point is 02:06:43 But he is tackled before he gets too far away uh he continued to curse at the officers after he was captured and then he closes it strong see what i'm saying jimmy he's a performer if nothing else this is the thing you questioned his he had materials saved he closes it with as they tackle him and drag him away to jail he says quote fuck you suck my dick you're a bunch of crackers closes it with suck my dick you bunch of fucking crackers mic drop boom suck my dick fuck you suck my dick you're a bunch of fucking crackers mic drop suck it what the fuck incredible and then he turned to another officer just as a closer this is like he's walking off stage and did like an aside to an audience member
Starting point is 02:07:37 i'm selling cds he said quote suck my dick n word just as a closer just in case you didn't hear that because he's not a cracker he said suck my dick you're a bunch of crackers and then he was like i didn't forget you excuse me sir i know i didn't forget about you i apologize i only told them to suck you excuse me n-word you can suck my dick too thank you pal all right have a good one you can suck it as well uh yeah so fucking real this is that is a great night what a cherry on top right here this is amazing here uh his agent peter schaefer praised the manner in which adam acted yeah he said quote adam was very controlled what this is the yelling suck my dick crackers while you run from police that are
Starting point is 02:08:19 trying to hold you in custody and your wife screams spade of a spage that's the not fucking overreacting at all i feel like that is not controlled i wish i was there and then when he gets arrested and thrown in a car just going was that really pac-man show did we just get to see that so was that free for real was that was that the show do i have to pay for them do they hire him like they bring in sammy davis back in the day or what the fuck man this is the chicken with arugula come with this show i want my chicken i want it with the room with my bro he says that uh adam was quite controlled very controlled we think the authorities overreacted they love the attention adam showed great restraint i think all he had to do if he wasn't cheating was go i don't know what you're
Starting point is 02:09:05 talking about show me in the video they would have looked at and said see i'm not cheating and they would have went all right sir never mind they would have released him right none of he doesn't this is fucking nuts he's charged with felony intimidation felony battery against an officer as well as uh misdemeanor charges of cheating at gambling resisting law enforcement and public intoxication so it's eight charges he's pleading not guilty to all of them. If he didn't do all the shit he did, it would have just been minor cheating at gambling. And he could have said he wasn't cheating and whatever. But instead, he's got all his felony fucking battery against an officer.
Starting point is 02:09:34 That's not good. You know, that's bad. And intimidation here. March 21st, 2019. He accepts a plea agreement in two cases that include uh nine felony and five misdemeanor charges stemming from the uh casino incident here uh they had uh five additional counts of felony cheating at gambling were filed against him and later that day the the five counts of cheating at gambling were dismissed as part of a pre-plea deal so he accepts the pre-, and it is, you, sir, may fuck off.
Starting point is 02:10:06 It requires him to spend 10 days in jail. Yeah. 10 days. And never go to that casino again, I'm sure of that. Well, I would hope not here, at least for the crackers involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. While he's serving a probationary period that will also bar him from drinking booze for a year and a half.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Uh-oh. This might be good for him. Or it may come back to bite my ass. Or it might be bad, yeah. Or maybe he'll just smoke a bunch of weed and chill the fuck out. I don't know. and a half oh this might be good for him or it may come back to bite or it might be bad yeah or maybe he'll just smoke a bunch of weed and chill the fuck out i know uh he can also not possess a firearm or dangerous weapons without permission from his probation officer during that time frame i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and go anything you can you have what no no a slingshot no absolutely
Starting point is 02:10:41 not sir no no can you have anything you will fight a bb gun you'll shoot your eye out like ralphie right you know fucking icicle will hit you you're doomed no so uh and he's officially banned from the rising star casino as well yeah uh the agreement's not set in stone though all parties have uh can appear in court the judge has to sign on off on it but it's all agreed to may 24 2019 he announces his football retirement. Oh, now you're done? As if that was an issue. Right.
Starting point is 02:11:14 Like, I'm announcing, no one wants you. Are you nuts? By the way, at the casino, he had a Broncos hat on. Did he really? Fuck yeah, he did all this in a fucking Broncos. I thought you would love that. That's a burner. Why don't you retire from crime you fucking dickhead come on now what's he gonna do what's he's gonna sit in the house and be miserable remember what he said he can't retire from that uh let's let's hear his retirement speech shall we uh quote how do i start my next
Starting point is 02:11:41 chapter well i start by first turning the page and closing out one of the most thrilling chapters of my life. The arugula period. No, that's that part's not true. A chapter that started as just a dream from a kid from Boat Rock. A dream that became a reality with the blessings of God Almighty, hard work, the dedication to not give up, and a village of prayer warriors surrounding me. dedication to not give up and a village of prayer warriors surrounding me. I stand tall and proud as I announced that this beautiful life changing ride that has been the national football league has come to an end. I'm officially hanging up my cleats with no regrets.
Starting point is 02:12:15 None to go. Arugula farm. And yeah, he's no regrets. Not hanging them up. Not one. Not one Vegas incident of regrets. Maybe that's. Fucking idiot.
Starting point is 02:12:25 He finishes his career with 146 games played. He had, let's see here, 17 career interceptions. Not too shabby. Returned two of them for touchdowns. He also had five punt return touchdowns career as well, which is pretty goddamn pretty good, I would say. He's good at that. So that is his whole entire career.
Starting point is 02:12:46 And guess what? His career, this is what I mean. It ebbed perfectly with us. His career, his crime, even the whole time. And right from the beginning. And can't get enough of Pac-Man Jones? Well, you can follow him at RealPacman24 on Twitter. He has 134,000 followers.
Starting point is 02:13:05 He's doing great. And he follows 51,000 followers. He's doing great. And he has his followers, 51,000, though. Oh, Jesus. Slow down, you idiot. Yeah, calm down. You don't have to follow everybody back. You have to follow him to see his tweets, though. He's one of those guys.
Starting point is 02:13:14 Oh, he's got to protect it, huh? It's a protected. So we can't see what craziness he's putting out, because I am not following that fucking idiot. I can't do it. No. Because I don't want him following me back. He will.
Starting point is 02:13:22 And then hunting me down and killing me. He's certainly team follow back. Because that's what I saw. And I'm like, oh shit, I have a check mark too. He'll just follow me back on reflex. And then a bunch of people are going to be tagging me and fucking with him. And then the next thing you know,
Starting point is 02:13:32 I'm going to be, you know, I'm going to be in one of these cities doing a show and Pac-Man's. Atlanta airport. And I'm going to hear suck my dick cracker. And I'll be like, what the fuck? And then I'm going to get socked in the face by Pac-Man. I don't need that shit.
Starting point is 02:13:44 Bitch ass WAP. Bitch-ass Guinea motherfucker. So that is Pac-Man Jones, everybody. Unbelievable. It's an episode you guys have all requested for a while because he's one of the famous, you know, most arrested crazy people. And three years ago, it was still in the midst of all this.
Starting point is 02:13:59 There was all that casino shit wasn't in there. It would have been not a great show. I'm so happy we waited and you know what who knows what can come in the future that's the other thing the future's unlimited it is not over he could kill five people tomorrow that man still owes 12 million dollars he's about to get real fucking desperate he has no job he has 12 million dollars he's fucking getting arrested all he just got arrested he could kill uh he could he could poison the water town the water supply of an entire town and kill everybody, and we'd all not be surprised.
Starting point is 02:14:29 He's so close to Kentucky. The meth in Kentucky is insanity. Forget about it. He's going to be doing something nutty. I'm sure of it. There's Pac-Man, though, everybody. If you like Pac-Man Jones or if you like our telling of Pac-Man Jones, tell us about it. Go ahead on iTunes, Apple Podcasts, that purple damn icon.
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