Crime in Sports - #178 - Dogs, Weed & Ladies of the Night - The Consequentialness of Nate Newton

Episode Date: September 24, 2019

This week, we ease up to a buffet of bad decisions, bad instincts, and just plain stupid. He worked his way into the NFL, becoming a Super Bowl champion, on a dynasty of a team. With all that... glory comes excesses of every kind. From food, to drugs, to women, and he sampled it all. His crimes are just as dumb as some of them are awful, and his tendency to give a hilarious, if not insane quote serves the story well. This one has all the crazy one could want in an episode!! Dream of french fry mastery, go under the radar with your dog fighting past, and call all women "whores" with Nate Newton!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:06 It's all laid out right there. I go there a lot, looking at our tour dates so that I can go book hotels and shit. I know. So where are we when? Jesus. We always say, like, we're there and we're struggling for a date. I'll look in my fucking hotel app. I'll find out.
Starting point is 00:04:19 We don't know. We're not positive when we're anywhere. So we're trying our best. My phone will tell me when I have to be at the airport. Oh, boy. They're telling me I need to check in for a flight. guess i gotta leave tomorrow that's a problem so yeah that's how that works by the way sorry about the tebow rant last week the episode ran long how great is that you were having so much fun you forgot to be mad because a spat of four i didn't forget about it
Starting point is 00:04:40 but the the episode was running long we were at about two hours and 40 minutes and i'm like i can't do it now no so you knew oh i knew yeah it was too long i completely spaced it i knew what i was i had in my notes and i was like now i can't because it was just too long so i'm like we'll save it for this week and it's a perfect episode for this it's a perfect one for this one it's gonna put it right in there it'll be very nice it fits with it it's it's a football episode so it'll fit right in there with it. Perfect. It goes along with it.
Starting point is 00:05:06 The theme is perfect on here. Let's get right to it. Let's get down to business. Let's talk about our superstar of the hour here, let's say. It is Nate Newton. Oh, from the Cowboys. You know Nate Newton. Everybody out there, you might know Nate Newton from weight loss commercials and shit like that
Starting point is 00:05:24 because he's a big fat guy that was on the cowboys no other way to describe him uh he's a giant man and he lost a lot of weight in the last 10 years and was on commercials and everybody he plays the like i'm this happy fat guy that's his that's his role like i'm roly-poly and real happy and you know i'm a funny jolly fat guy that's his role um i'm not anything bad i'm not a vicious monster i'm not a monster and then you hear a story you're like oh god you're a terrible person fat can't he has like a a super blocked out uh flat top right no he for a while probably in the late 80s yeah because he was around since the 86 on the cowboy so yeah i think so i see him i see so. I see him with a blockhead.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Maybe then. With a weird-looking haircut that you're shocked that it fits in a round helmet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How would that fit? It's got to be smushed. Take the helmet off, it pops right back into form. That's amazing. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:19 You got that shit trained to work for you. It's not even leaning like Gumby. It's perfect. It's beautiful. I love that, man. That's awesome. That's good stuff. So let's talk about him. Let's do it. It's Nathaniel Newton
Starting point is 00:06:30 Jr. Of course. Of course he is. Right out of the gate. He's swinging. He's breaking rules. He'll break all the rules, old Nathaniel Newton Jr. He breaks every crime and sports rule that we have. It's humanly possible.
Starting point is 00:06:45 He'll break it. And starting right away with a rule he couldn't help, but he still broke it nonetheless. Not his control. Don't worry. He'll break it again later. That's okay. Born December 20th, 1961. Nate is here.
Starting point is 00:07:00 He grows up down in Florida. He's a Florida guy, like a lot of football players are. Florida man. A lot of football players grow a lot of man a lot of football players grow up in florida here 1963 he's born in 61 and 63 his brother is born he has a brother named tim tim will also play in the nfl really uh yeah tim he's a defensive lineman but he kind of a nondescript guy he plays for minnesota tampa and and Kansas City over eight different seasons and kind of from about 82 to 90. So you wouldn't know like a second-tier defensive lineman from that time probably. He wasn't anything dominant or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He's one of those guys that's just like the quintessential NFL, like plays the NFL and then goes away, and then he just like contributes to the average. That's exactly. He's a statistic. He's a statistic. He's a backup. He's a guy that kind of comes in, he comes and goes and you go, who was that? Tim Newton was playing there.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Okay. I didn't know who the hell that was. It's one of those guys. Yeah. Non-descript would be a good way to describe him here. Now, Nate grows up in Orlando. His father, Nate Sr., of course, runs a gas station. Really?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah. He runs a gas station, which is interesting. Nate will later say his mom was an alcoholic and really didn't have much responsibility with the kids. The father raised the kids, pretty much, is what he says later on. Yeah, his mother was a little too drunk for that, is what he tells his future wife. Did Dad own the gas station?
Starting point is 00:08:22 I believe so, yeah. Interesting. And then he expanded this gas station later on and they sold food. They made it like a mini-mart also from a gas station. A little Florida bodega. Kind of a little Florida bodega in Orlando there.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And you know what? We've been to Orlando. Put up whatever you want on the side of the road. It's not going to help or hurt it. It really isn't. It just isn't. Not much you can do good. It's Disneyland and a bunch of strip mall's disneyland and a bunch of strip
Starting point is 00:08:46 malls and disney world a bunch of strip malls and uh very many old people even the airport's all disney it's all everything everything's disney oh and it's all kids the airport lines are like disney lines yeah it's just parents that look really tired with kids hanging off them with fucking stuffed dumbos and shit and bags dragging behind them. They cannot wait to sit their fat ass on an airplane and get the fuck out of this town. I love watching that. And I'm just like, what a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:09:14 When you don't have kids and you're traveling. When we were in Orlando, we're leaving and we're watching these people on these lines. Lines are an hour long with all these kids. And I'm like, oh, God, just kill yourself. No, I don't just leave move to orlando you live you live in orlando now that's it if you left them eventually they'd return them to you that's the thing it's not like they just let them live at the airport they pick them up and they go who do you belong to and there'd be some court proceedings but eventually
Starting point is 00:09:38 you'd probably get them back be a lot easier than dealing with them at the airport that's all i'm saying here so uh he has his mother's a school teacher, too, which is even harder. Yeah. That she would be kind of a non-functional. Wow. Yeah. She's an alcoholic who just she's done with kids. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Maybe she's like the fucking mechanic that doesn't want to work on cars when he gets home. I guess so. The only thing I can think is I know he told this to his future wife. So he hasn't said this publicly, but he told her. And then she wrote this book that we'll talk about later on. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Did she write a book? Let me tell you something. How great is that? Discuss that. Man, he doesn't discuss his mom, but she sure the fuck does. If you're going to be mean to your spouse, make sure they're fucking illiterate. Make sure they make sure they're not lettered because they're going to write a book about you that's amazing if you're famous so he uh he has
Starting point is 00:10:29 a sister and three brothers uh total here and uh like i said his other brother plays in the nfl on the defensive line so big people we're talking about these are all big people five giant people it's a lot of big people and he's you know he's six two and he's he's i mean his weight varies but he says his like ideal weight when he plays is 335 my word that's his like where he's the most agile and he's still strong and shit like that he talks about he gets down to at one point like 295 and he felt like a meth head he said that uh he there was a play and howie long threw him off the line and no kidding tossed him back into the quarterback and he was like oh that's not gonna work i gotta i need another 30 40 pounds on me because that's not what i'm looking for yeah
Starting point is 00:11:08 335 that's so much man that's a lot of dude that's so much man so much and that's not that's his ideal weight that's not in his heavy days as we'll talk about that's what he'd like to be yeah this is goal weight wow i'm telling you so uh nate plays a bunch of he's a athlete he just plays he's a very athletic guy. He's one of those guys, he's like a Chris Farley where you're like, how does that fat guy move around like that? That's how he is. Why is he so fast?
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's those guys who were like genetically meant to be fat and they can move because it's just their body knows how to handle it. They're like Dusty Rhodes or something, you know, where it's like, dude, big, fat, out of shape looking guy can run around for an hour. It's just, I something you know or it's like dude's big fat out of shape looking guy i could run around for an hour it's just as i don't know it's a weird thing that's majestic to me too but the most majestic thing to me is somebody that's that big and can fucking dance that blows my mind i knew a guy uh i used to do some comedy stuff with way back in the day this guy he was 560 pounds jesus god he's six foot five 560 pounds big fat italian guy
Starting point is 00:12:06 yeah could dance his ass amazing the lightest steps and you were like he did he could like tap dance and shit and you're like are you kidding me you're fine he broke a shoe jimmy he broke a dress shoe we were out he was dancing he broke a dress he. We were out. He was dancing. He broke a dress. He goes, oh, I broke my shoe. He snapped it in half. I've never seen that before. I've never seen a dress shoe snap in half before, just under the weight of this man. But light on his feet, like a feather. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So Nate's that kind of dude. Meanwhile, I'm 170, and I look like I'm having a seizure. It's embarrassing. I think if you're fat, you get a little leeway, too. It makes you... Yeah. Well, you got to guide the momentum around and you're used to that in the day anyway.
Starting point is 00:12:51 They're impressed you're not falling over if you weigh 335 pounds. You, they expect you to be able to do something. They saw your little ass. They'd be like, you better get down to the floor and fucking spit on your head and do some shit because you're weak. I mean, I can figure it out, but I i'm not goddamn i'm not on a show no it's yeah that's
Starting point is 00:13:09 a funny thing that'll never happen on fucking shows why would you do that i don't have that talent why would you do that to yourself i don't dance on tv why do you have a job get a job well that's what it is it's they don have jobs anymore, so that's what they get into. Get a job. Doing anything that's less embarrassing than that. You see people like Emmett Smith on there. He didn't need to do that. He's got money.
Starting point is 00:13:33 He can get jobs broadcasting. Shit, there are NFL players that are playing today that have still been on that goddamn show. They have a job. They have one, and they're still doing it. I don't get it. I don't understand. It's because their agent talked them into it.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Well, yeah, it's good for- Their agent's like, you can make a lot of money. It's good for endorsements. Wink, wink. I mean, I can make 35 grand if you get your ass on this show. That's what I mean. It's a lot of endorsements, too, because you're going to be known to America. Oh, what a sweet guy.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I love him. I'm going to buy whatever granola bar he's telling me to. Charming-ass smile. I'll buy that Powerade. That's what it is. So he plays football, football basketball and wrestled in high school and uh did the shot put as well oh again with this shit yeah he's uh what he's he looks like a guy who should be doing a shot but he looked he's a he's a big anchor shot put
Starting point is 00:14:14 a volkswagen that's what i mean he and then chase it down and eat it afterwards put some a1 on it and start carving it up and waltz that fucker to the goddamn showers so uh yeah football basketball wrestled so he does all sorts of shit basketball he must have been a beast under those boards in high school to bump you out of the way with his girth here he's got a lot of a lot of advantage that's a lot of advantage here he also he'd work in his father's store um he says that he liked to stay home a lot he was kind of a loner he wasn't really uh you know big in the social scene which is weird because later on he's all about this his whole life of a loner he wasn't really uh you know big in the social scene which is weird because later on he's all about this his whole life is a social scene he is a social scene we'll talk about a little we're going to touch on a little bit of the 90s cowboy stuff we're going
Starting point is 00:14:54 to keep it mainly to nate because the rest of that stuff will be more in a michael irvin episode then we'll get into the because that's where he was the one that was the ringleader of all that shit so we'll get into that then but there's some stuff we'll talk about we'll talk a little about a little about the white house if you know what that is and some shit like that in the hall of fame yeah that's oh oh boy is he uh he's on tv like every day bad person that man's a face of the nfl he michael irvin he's a shit fucking bad guy just a bad guy and i'm not even talking about there was a lot of false allegations against him too and shit like that but that stuff was fine the stuff that he definitely
Starting point is 00:15:29 did do was horrible he's a horrible person just a terrible narcissist the awesome part is that even in his hall of fame acceptance speech he admits it oh he's a terrible i don't deserve this he's an awful person he's an awful person everybody bitches about lawrence taylor being in and not him shut calm the fuck down lawrence taylor never stabbed one of his teammates with a fucking that never happened okay one thing that never fucking happened uh you know he was no don't don't even sorry i get you know whatever but anyway so that annoys the shit out of me so i hate the i just hate the sanctimonious fucking where the big cross around your neck talking about Jesus all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And it's like, you know that you're a coke fiend who's going out with five whores tonight. Right. Stop talking about Jesus. I don't care that you're a coke fiend that goes out with five whores. None of my fucking business. Right. Do whatever you want. It's your business.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. Don't be a hypocrite about it. And I'm talking self-described whores as not self or what he would call oh i got five whores tonight is what he would say as we'll talk about that's there i guess i should have prefaced that that's that's they don't even call this team they don't even call women women they don't call like you know prostitute a prostitute or whatever they are they call women that they hang out with whores, just as a blanket term. The 90s cowboys. That is awesome.
Starting point is 00:16:49 In general. So, yeah, it's really a weird time and place, we'll put it that way. So, yeah, he said he never hung out with, you know, got in trouble, never hung out with gangs or any of that shit. He was just kind of alone orer, did his own thing. And he's so big that people would leave him the fuck alone. They're not going to start messing with him on purpose. You know, big dude like that. So he goes to Jones High School in Florida.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Then, like I said, he plays a bunch of sports. He played fullback until his junior year. Imagine him coming at you with the ball. That's a big fucking fullback. Holy shit. Or him blocking. That's pretty good stuff i mean because he's he's quick on his feet as a guard later on he's really good at pulling which is you have to be pretty pretty you know yeah you have to be good on your feet
Starting point is 00:17:35 the shadow sidestep is a pain in the ass to do it's hard because you're moving backward backward and around other people right i mean it's not easy for keeping a man in front of you for 300 pound men to to pull like that. You have to be very agile and he can do it. But he ends up moving to the defensive line when he's just so big that they're like, Jesus Christ, man, you got to just stand in the middle. You'll catch anything. You'll just grab people as they run by. Just stick your arms out.
Starting point is 00:18:00 That's half the line covered right there. You're huge. So he was heavily recruited actually and by uh division one colleges really heavily recruited uh arizona state he thought was pretty cool they were all all up in his shit uh asu did he play for sec school not even no he doesn't even play for he plays for a very small school he ends up uh yeah apparently uh frank cush was the one recruiting him and anybody who knows anything about frank cush was the one recruiting him and anybody knows anything about frank cush uh he's known as the ultimate asshole disciplinarian coach
Starting point is 00:18:30 not like the asshole that the players love because they they won and they taught him a lesson like he's not bear bryant no that the players are like you know what he was right you know later on they're like yeah he's a fucking asshole period he's just a dick and we named everything at this college after him he's a narcissistic lunatic frank kush that's all he is good for him because he's got a stadium he's got a parking lot he's got streets he's got buildings they just everything just has nobody else to name shit after it's either him or rudgy jackson he had nothing to do with nothing to do with sports at all yeah and they're still naming shit after him over here they don't care no that's i mean they have nothing else to be proud of really let's just say so it'd be
Starting point is 00:19:08 jake plumber fucking stadium you can't have that no that's bad that's that's got it's a little rapey i mean you should go with the barry sander or barry sanders no barry bonds it's another guy but they didn't name anything after him well frank cush barry bonds reggie jackson i love barry bonds and reggie jackson but those three people all have something in common. They're all assholes. They're all unabashed. They wouldn't deny it. If you said, hey, Reggie, are you an asshole?
Starting point is 00:19:31 He'd go, hell yeah, I'm an asshole. I know this for a fact. My fucking family knows him like he's an asshole. That's just how he is. So I don't know what it is about ASU producing talented assholes. Or recruiting and just hiring. They do it like nobody's business though. Something about the desert here.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Uh, but he said that he didn't want to deal with Frank Cush's practices and the mountain runs and all that. He's a big guy. It's 115 degrees in the summer. He's treading them up that goddamn a mountain. How would you like to be of a darker pigmentation going up a mountain in the middle of the summer of weighing 400?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Fuck that. And he's putting extra weight on you you know that yeah no not happening here so nate instead of going to one of these schools he uh asks his high school coach to contact florida a and m what which is not a big school they had not recruited him because they just thought that there's no way they're going to get a guy who division one schools want uh so it's kind of a black school to and it's uh it's in florida so it's not that far away it's driving distance to his home and shit like that uh so he said he went there and uh you know he wanted to go there as soon as he got saw the place he loved it because it was close
Starting point is 00:20:39 to home and you know all that kind of shit so yeah he wanted to stay close to home that's strike one yeah crime and sports well strike two but you know junior sometimes you can't control one you can't control one exactly so uh and as a sophomore season he played offense and defensive line he played both ways and then he moved a full-time offensive line later on uh where he earned all conference honors there and shit he played right tackle as a senior so So he was very much the big man on campus. Do you think that was a strategy for him to stand out? Well, I mean, I think for him, yeah. I think he didn't want to go somewhere
Starting point is 00:21:13 where he didn't know anything about. If you're from Florida and you've never really been outside of Florida, Arizona, especially back then, the world's a smaller place. Like in the late 70s, the world's a bigger place. You don't want to go all the way the shit out to some place you don't know
Starting point is 00:21:26 under a coach that you hear is really brutal and all that shit. I think this is just easier. If he goes here, he's going to be a big fish in a small pond. It's close to home. They're going to treat him better because he's going to be a star there. I think that's, honestly, that's what I think. It's just an easier path. I'm shocked he didn't play like Bama or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I know. As like an 18-year-old kid, I can't say that I wouldn't take the same path. It's just kind of the path of least resistance, I guess. I don't know. A teammate of his said, quote, he was the biggest guy on campus, first of all. Second, this was before guys shaved their heads. Nate's head was shaved. Third, he always wore shorts.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It could be the coldest day of the year and he'd be wearing shorts and these businessman's hard sole shoes and these long black businessman socks. He was something to see. Picture this. Big fat guy, bald head, shorts, dress shoes with high banker socks.
Starting point is 00:22:21 What the fuck are you doing? And he's walking around campus like that that's awesome that's hilarious yeah i gotta say uh now nate he says uh this is funny as shit quote one thing i've always liked to do is curse i love that he says i'm in i've always liked to curse i love this i don't know what it makes me feel warm and says he said quote i was cursing once when i was a kid and my father heard me. He told me that when I was big enough and when I was away from home, I could start cursing, but not before. I hit FAMU, which is the school he's going to.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And I said, all right, here I am. I'm big enough and I'm away from home. Fuck it. Fuck it. Let's get it on, bitches. So, yeah, apparently he was a total dick in college self-admitted to a complete asshole and uh even pam oliver will back that up the sports reporter went out with his college roommate oh my god and basically nate was a horrible monster is what she says uh he he would
Starting point is 00:23:21 just fuck with people for people he didn't know he'd just yell shit at people abusive shit cursing talking shit like women especially oh no um yeah he would like what like they said he would like talk shit about like that their outfits didn't match and shit like that like try to embarrass people cut them to the core that's what i mean try to embarrass and fuck with people not like you know his teammates and he sees him he's like oh yeah it cuts fucked up just walks by girls yeah your top don't match your jeans literally like yeah your shit doesn't match you're fucking fucked up you don't know what you're doing your hair's like he would like fuck you don't do that shit with go home and do your makeup some shit like that
Starting point is 00:23:56 yeah he would he would say quote don't they have a fucking comb in your dorm don't they have a hairbrush that's what he would tell like women who were walking around i love a chick that cuts her own bangs shit like that yeah shit like that oh baby would you do that 2 a.m haircuts those are great 2 a.m haircuts right after a fight with your boyfriend good decision just grabbed a handful and chopped it off looking good honey but you don't say that no you just go hi yeesh hope she's okay wait till she leaves hope she's okay that's a cry for help bangs that's what those are so uh a teammate of his again the same guy who said that he described his attire he says quote here's how bad it got nate would go to dinner he would sit by the door no one would leave the dining hall because they knew they
Starting point is 00:24:44 would have to walk past him 30 minutes would go by an hour it would be eight o'clock at night and no one would be leaving just because they didn't want to go past nate i want to get roasted they didn't want to get roasted by nate because he would say mean shit in front of everybody about you i'm feeling real good tonight i think i'm just gonna stay here yeah i'm gonna wait out nate i'm gonna wait out nate eventually it's it's the food hall you're never gonna wait him out he'll stay there all night he's like he's got a piss they got food here i'll just stay here for the rest of the i'll eat bread and absorb it it doesn't matter see i'll just eat more they have crispy creams and shit so nate says though he says he you know he was he got a he realized the path he was on wasn't terrific in the way he treated people.
Starting point is 00:25:26 He says, quote, something happened, though, that got me thinking. There was this little dude around campus who owed money to this big dude. The big dude told the little dude not to show up at this bar on Saturday night without the money because he'd hurt him bad. Well, the little dude showed up without the money. The big dude came over and they were talking. And this little dude pulled out a 45. He put the gun under the big dude's chin and they were talking and this little dude pulled out a 45 he put the gun under the big dude's chin and just blew his brains out just like that he said quote
Starting point is 00:25:49 the whole thing you see happened because the little dude was so scared of the big dude i got thinking about having people afraid of you it's not a good way to live i don't care how bad you are how big you are there's someone inside that wants to be liked nobody wants to be treated like some kind of leper when uh when he comes around so that's when he said. Nobody wants to be treated like some kind of leper when he comes around. So that's when he said he's decided to stop fucking with people as much. When a guy lost his head over it? Yeah, when he was like, wow, someone could just shoot me because I made fun of their blouse. That's not a good, that's not fair. I should probably.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I told her her ruffles looked dumb. Shit. Shouldn't have made that comment about using all that product in the hair. He got his head blown off and he's like, no more smart-ass comments. Maybe I should chill, yeah. Well, he made a good point. If people are afraid of him, you know, that's their only way to get back. Yeah, the only way of defending yourself
Starting point is 00:26:34 is an actual fucking gun. Yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe he doesn't know if what he's saying will come across wrong and someone will take it threatening. That's smart. You shouldn't fuck with people, period. Leave people to to fuck alone there's a lesson that stands the test of time that's today too fuck with your friends yeah that's it your friends should be able to take all the abuse you have to dish out that's what they're there for and they should give it back in spades
Starting point is 00:26:56 that's what i'm saying but that's what it is nobody else that's it you shouldn't abuse strangers it should be earned like respected yes a roasting just like any comedy roast it's supposed to be you're supposed to respect that person that's why yeah you can tell when you go around this country we go around the country we do live shows and we can tell honestly and we swear to god it's no offense to anybody else but we can tell certain places have better sense of humor than others they're just more boisterous comedy crowds and and it'll be said by tons of comedians. So it's not just one. It's not just, oh, maybe you had a better show that night.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It's just a matter of they're more wanting to laugh. They're more into it certain places. And yeah, ball breaking is an art in certain places. It certainly is. And they like it. If you go to Philly and you start talking shit, they love it. Tell us more how much this place sucks. We agree.
Starting point is 00:27:47 That drunk lady trying to crawl on the stage and I tell her, shut the fuck up. And the crowd cheers like I just hit a home run in the World Series. That's beautiful to me. That's something where not everyone is from that environment and they might take it as threatening. Absolutely. So you never know who you're dealing with, basically. So 1983 comes around. He graduates from college and he's going.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He's undrafted in the NFL draft in 83. He goes undrafted, but he is signed as an undrafted free agent by the Washington Redskins here in 83. He goes through training camp and he ends up being cut in training camp. He does not make the team. He will later say, quote, Hey, man, I cut myself with the Redskins. I was immature. My mind wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Coach Joe Gibbs actually called me into his office my second week and told me I had a great opportunity. I wasn't real focused. I was a little wild. I didn't have my mind right, which that's later on. That's like, you know, 25 years later. He says that, you know, 2008 or something. He threw something through a wall. Well, we'll find out exactly what he did that day because it's worse than throwing something through a wall.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Joe Gibbs actually later on said, quote, I'd say we made a mistake on that one. Cutting Nate Newton. Absolutely. Funny that he could actually say that, too. He ends up final cuts were announced. He made it to the final cuts too which is heartbreaking because that gives you less time to hook up with another team yeah if you get cut halfway through camp then you have time to hook up with another team and learn their system
Starting point is 00:29:14 and hope that they've cut somebody that they need you in their they need a lineup somebody's got injuries at the offensive line or something but when you're at the end of training camp then nobody will sign you usually unless you're like a real good player you better be amazing because you don't you don't have any time in training camp to learn their system so you're fucked basically even if you rape chicks they'll bring you in oh the nfl nfl they'll bring in yeah yeah bill belichick sorry uh i'm sorry but they have this fucking so for some reason this this image is like the most upright upstandingstanding. Bullshit. The fucking owners getting jerked off by people.
Starting point is 00:29:47 All the fucking Asian slave immigrants. They hire every ne'er-do-well shithead in the NFL that fucks up. They're like, well, we'll take him because Tom Brady will turn him around. No. No. Tom Brady's not going to go home and make sure antonio brown doesn't put his dick where it doesn't belong he's not it's just not going to happen on the field or threaten the woman yeah clearly because he did it while he was there that's where was tom brady yeah the god damn you
Starting point is 00:30:14 tom that's what i mean you allowed him to text the woman you jerk if tom brady gets the credit for turning people around then he gets the blame when they threaten witnesses via text message. Sorry, Tom Brady. This one's on you. I blame Tom Brady. That's how much I hate Tom Brady. I'll figure out a way to make that his fault. I couldn't be happier. So when final cuts are announced, Nate is visiting one of his relatives in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. Okay. Now, so he's not there to get cut. Charles Mann. You remember Charles Mann? No. From the Redskins.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He was a man. It was Dexter Manley and Charles Mann were the big ones. Charles Mann did chunky commercials. What? In the late 80s, early 90s. That's how famous he was. Very well-spoken man.
Starting point is 00:31:01 He's a big giant guy. Yeah. Very well-spoken. I like my chunky soup now great player though great I think it's number 71 I want to say great line also then defensive line yeah yeah they were both on the line man and manly were just monsters together they were so good Charles Mann though I think he's a hall of famer Charles Mann amazing great player he was he was Nate's roommate and he said quote i remember being relieved that it
Starting point is 00:31:25 wasn't me because they came and knocked on the door that they asked for your playbook and all that shit and he was like oh fuck when they knock on the door that's a bad thing so he said that you know it was nate he said i remember being relieved that it wasn't me and then being devastated for him because we were real close i didn't know how i was going to tell him then he had to call him and tell him hey dude because he wasn't there because he wasn't there which sucks uh so he said newton was called newton called him from near pittsburgh around midnight and uh i guess he stopped uh along the way and uh jesus christ uh the rental car he was driving to he only had because charles mann rented it for him because he didn't have any credit cards to rent a car with nate so uh yeah he says uh uh he he called in to check on the cut situation and newton said quote they cut me didn't they like he just he just knew he knew it uh yeah so he said quote mann says quote
Starting point is 00:32:17 he didn't take it too well no and we'll find out how not well he didn't he took it my man i've been fired while i was out of town before not cool cool. That is the you have to drive back. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You already know you're fired. It's fucked up. That is the worst feeling. I feel like you're going to shit your pants the whole ride.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And all you've been working toward is this. Your whole. Oh, God. Screwed. So he says, quote, I guess he actually got a case of beer along the way and then proceeded to drink that on the way back. Yeah. I had that thought, too.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I was driving a company truck. I'm just like, I may as well just pick up a fucking road soda. What's the difference? Well, I guess if you're feeling that down. Well, he ended up Charles Mann goes to sleep and he's awoken by a phone call telling him that Nate Newton newton was in a horrible car accident and is in the hospital oh my god uh yeah he was apparently speeding he missed a turn near the reds game he was close to the hotel the team hotel it's always the last couple of miles yeah he flipped the car and was thrown from it that's a lot of man to be thrown yeah from anything uh yeah the police were
Starting point is 00:33:22 uh were uh following him because they saw that he was drunk and they were following him and he was uh you know they ended up finding him on the asphalt today half dead looking they don't know if he was dead or what uh so that's i mean they were like yeah that guy looks drunk oh shit he's definitely drunk as the car flips through the air and a giant man sails through the night looking like et going across the full moon and shit like this is not okay wow uh so nate he says quote i fell asleep at the wheel oh no you didn't you passed out bud well that's what he says he says i bought a few beers and i pulled over and went to sleep and i woke up and continued on i guess i was a little more tired than i thought i was speeding
Starting point is 00:34:02 and i remember i woke up and there was water on on the right and a little hill on the left. I knew I wasn't going into that water, and I turned the car real quick up toward the hill. And the next thing I knew, I woke up, and the police said, stay still. You should be dead. Then I woke up again, and I was in the hospital. And I guess he suffered. The worst of it was a bruised kidney. That's it?
Starting point is 00:34:24 The rest of it, he bruised kidney that's it the rest of it he was just it's unbelievable that girth i think honestly protected him wow from a fall and that that is a it's a padding if you're falling like if he went into the lake which is probably a softer landing he would have died he would have fucking drowned yeah he would have definitely drowned so yeah so at least he woke up enough to go don't go in the lake unreal the lake. Unreal. Go toward the hill. Save my own life. Yeah, hit this. Don't fall into that, which makes sense. Never go toward the water.
Starting point is 00:34:50 The funny part about this is this whole thing got the attention of John Riggins, who is the badass Hall of Fame Redskins running back. Look up a highlight of John Riggins and you get that slow motion one of somebody like you see like a finger slide off his face mask and pull his jersey down and he's just fucking still going plodding through the mud and busting out that's john riggins he's a badass and he's also a badass partier really oh just a prolific partier as most of the guys were back then yeah but he was uh he said that this is fucking hilarious nate said that this you know getting drunk and almost killing himself on the way home after being cut uh nate said quote he invited me to a party and he said quote i love a guy like you
Starting point is 00:35:36 you get cut from the redskins and you try to commit suicide let's hang out let's hang out he literally was like well that's a crazy motherfucker he's like i'll just drink a case of beer and crash my car on the way back he's like that's a guy i need to hang out with car accident can't kill him that's amazing my entourage that's what i'm saying so he was like all right cool so he's hanging out with the star you know the star of the team because the guy loves him because he thinks he's crazy which he is uh yeah so he says he didn't know what to do he thought football was done is what he thought he's like well i tried out for the nfl didn't make it hang out with him still yeah i guess i gotta hang out with john
Starting point is 00:36:12 riggins but outside of that i need a job uh he says quote i was just chilling out and i was going to try to get back into school but i didn't have any money my agent called and said hey what type of shape are you in i looked at myself and well, I'm not in too good a shape. You got a bruised kidney. I got a bruised kidney. And, you know, if he's not working out every day for football, he's still eating like he is. So, yeah. Did you check out the news, sir?
Starting point is 00:36:35 I almost died. I flew. Ever seen E.T.? This was 83. It was just out. Have you seen E.T.? Imagine he was a lot bigger. Not on a bicycle
Starting point is 00:36:45 not skinny at all fat man cartwheeling through the air uh so anyway he was in good enough shape to be signed by the usfl okay because usfl needed players right and if you were a guy who made it to last cuts in the nfl you're a star you're a usfl player you're a usfl starter you're a star. You're a USFL player. Hell yeah. You're a USFL starter. You're a starter. And he was. Well, Nate's a guy that doesn't get his due as a player a lot of times. He ended up later on getting his due. But for the first few years in the NFL and even right away in the USFL, they look at him and people go, he's a fat fuck. And that's it. Nowadays, you see a lot of guys like that.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Back then, an offensive lineman was 250 pounds 245 260 pounds they were not you look at these guys there were very few 300 pounds there was none remember there's so many 400 when refrigerator perry came in he weighed 330 pounds and they made a they called him the refrigerator they made a huge deal at 330 is nothing now they gave him a nickname that referenced how fucking big he is that's what i mean and and nate is bigger than him and this is two years ahead fridge didn't come in till 85 so this is 83 so they just looked at him and went fat fuck yeah which is honestly what's fair it's what buddy ryan said about about fridge too i don't want this fat bastard and he was a fat bastard all of of them. So, yeah, he signs the Tampa Bay Bandits.
Starting point is 00:38:07 They were one of the really interesting teams of the USFL. If you haven't listened to the show before, I was a huge USFL fan as a kid. I loved football. And USFL was fun. And it was in the spring. So it was, you know, more football. Oh, yeah. I just dug it as a kid.
Starting point is 00:38:22 It was great. We're not done yet. Yeah, it was fun. And, you know, I grew up in New York. And we had a team new jersey the generals there that uh trump bought and then ruined the league and destroyed it and broke all of our hearts so uh yeah so uh there's a rant on that in some show about not a political one strictly usfl based strictly breaking poor james's heart of a child breaking my heart god damn it but you have so many uh new jersey generals shirts now i do i have a lot of them which is fucking cool i've been sent them a lot
Starting point is 00:38:52 but the bandits were one of the a lot of these teams were losing money because they were competing with nfl teams to sign players and they were signing you should hear some of the uh jeff pearlman wrote a book i'll reference him twice because he wrote Boys Will Be Boys. That man follows me on Twitter now because of you. What a sweetheart of a man. He's a good author, too. When he does a book on something, a sports book that covers a subject, it's up its ass with a microscope, and it's very impressive. The USFL book is Football for a Buck, and it's just a terrific front to back.
Starting point is 00:39:23 All the dirt, all the facts, everything below and above the surface. I'm going to order it tonight. It's really good. And the audio version is good, too. Great. And Boys Will Be Boys, he wrote, too, which is about the 90s cowboys and their craziness. Awesome. So that's a really good one, too.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I've read that for this episode. I read it anyway, but then we did this episode, too. So he wrote about the USFL, but Tampa was a different kind of franchise. Tampa was, they were actually profitable. Like, their owner did not compete with the other. He didn't do that. He didn't compete. He had a different philosophy.
Starting point is 00:39:58 They called it bandit ball. Smart. Yeah, they had a, it was a widespread offense where, you know, you could beat teams with less talent. You have less talent, you could still beat a team if you played a certain way. All the guys were really into it. They were, I think, in the top two or three in attendance in the league. They beat the shit out of the Bucs in attendance. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh, they would crush the Buccaneers in attendance. How about that? They would crush them. They were popular. Just by going with the whole we're not the bucks we're not and burt reynolds was part owner of the team and uh they gave him a chunk of the team just so he would be you know a face a face and in 1983 burt reynolds was one of the biggest movie stars the most recognizable he was a huge movie and he was the bandit so that's brilliant that's why they that's why they named him it's perfect and they had his he was the bandit. So that's brilliant. That's why they named him the bandit. It's perfect. And he was married to Lonnie Anderson at the time.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And at the time, she was considered hot. And they would have her on billboards. What? At the time, she was considered hot? She was. I know. But it sounds hilarious. You know what?
Starting point is 00:40:59 She's still hot as shit. I'm sure she's fine. I'm sure she's probably dead. I think she's dead. She had a lot of Burt Reynolds money, so I think she's probably sustained well. He just died. He did. But she, at the time, was considered like a hot shit movie.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Like a hot shit, ooh, one of those type of people. Hire her and you'll sell tickets. You'll sell tickets. She was on billboards saying, you know, come see the band. It's like, you know, written across her tits on a billboard and shit like that. Like they were pushing it and it worked. And so this was a really fun team every other guys that played for this team really enjoyed it uh nate plays there he's drafted by the usfl in the territorial draft as they would draft in their region so he went to florida a and m so he belongs
Starting point is 00:41:39 to tampa okay that's how that would work they have the the rights to him, to draft him. So he's an offensive tackle there in 84-85. He's doing well. He becomes kind of a star in the USFL as far as an offensive lineman goes. His brother, meanwhile, is playing in the NFL. His brother was drafted into the NFL, and right around this time, in 1982, his brother Tim is arrested on charges of marijuana possession. Not a big deal. He pleads guilty.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It's a misdemeanor of less than two ounces. He gets a $50 fine. And the next year, he's arrested for driving under the influence. Oh, boy. And then 13 months later, he's arrested again for driving under the influence. This is all while he's playing. Yeah. This kind of facilitates him going from team to team.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Sure. He's kind of known as kind of a fuck up. Fuck up. Shut him out of town. A little bit of a tear away. And it's fine. The weird thing is they totally encourage these guys to go out and carouse and drink and everything, but don't get arrested for DUI.
Starting point is 00:42:36 No, he'll be a dummy. Try, but Jesus, don't get pulled over. That's how it would be. It was like, what? Go fast. Yeah, what are you thinking? What are you doing? Faster.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Why are you sticking around for the cops to find you don't pull over when they put the lights on when they put the lights on they expect you to pull up that's when you gun it just keep going as soon as he opens that door all ass it'll take him a minute to get back in put it in the park you got like a 10 second head start so uh uh the league ends up folding after the uh like we say the the trump debacle yeah uh he wanted to do a brief thing on that uh he wanted the usfl usfl to move to the fall to compete with the nfl didn't really want that basically he wanted to sell out all the other owners and make a deal with the nfl to where they'll fold they'll allow a couple of usfl teams including basically the only one he gave a fuck about was the generals if and then they won't go to the falls it was
Starting point is 00:43:32 basically he was trying to threaten uh he was trying to threaten the nfl into whatever and the nfl said go fuck yourself we don't want you he had tried to buy a team before and uh pete rosell the commissioner who's a total dick but this is hilarious he said uh as long as i am alive or any of my heirs have anything to do with the nfl that man will never be anywhere near this league is what he said after one meeting with him outside of that you can come watch again fuck me it's fucking hilarious buying overpriced hot dog and beer he said trump i mean it was a power. He was trying to weasel his way into there, and they said no. And he said, well, we'll sue you in federal court.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And the USFL wins the lawsuit, and the jury awards them $3. Or the jury awards them $1, but it's tripled because of the whatever statute. So $1 is what they award him. So they basically said. Football for a buck. Exactly. They basically said, yeah, you know know it is antitrust violation but you also fucked yourself by doing all of this and driving yourself basically out of business right
Starting point is 00:44:30 to try to strong-arm somebody who's too big to be strong that's some some business bullying and it's like putting trade tariffs on china that are out of control it's crazy it'd be crazy it's like that it's but i mean no one would do that why would you do that i'm just kidding i don't know if that's good or bad. I don't know anything about the economy. I'm just, I tried to. I know my investments. I'm making a pass.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Eat dicks every time that fucker opens his mouth. I know your 401k's been in the tank lately, so I don't want to get into that. Every time that fucker talks, I lose money. You, Doug Flutie, Herschel Walkerate newton and the rest of the usfl gang you're not the first person to say that he has a goddamn meeting and this we don't do politics we're not talking about politics talking about ruining a league and jimmy's 401k that may or may not have anything to do with what he's doing it doesn't matter just go play golf i don't give a fuck just stop talking about money don't talk about money you're hurting me you're making me my future depends on him buttoning his fucking lip you're hurting me
Starting point is 00:45:33 did he just say beef and broccoli he didn't right stop did he mix up the r's and the l's i think you motherfucker you did that on purpose all right all right all right we can go on making fun of anybody forever so let's so uh talus here he said my agent called me again after the usfl folded and i wasn't in too good a shape it's a shocker that he's just never he doesn't keep himself in tip-top shape he said that uh several teams were interested in him which was a fact here uh the cowboys uh uh here are the first where he goes to camp with the cowboys and he said he heard one of the coaches bet that nate couldn't do five chin-ups uh-huh because he's you're so because that's a lot of ways to pull
Starting point is 00:46:21 out five times he said so i started the chin-ups and i was struggling and i went one two and he was smiling i did three four and five i looked at him and said i can do five if you said ten i would have been in trouble you pulled out five anyway but that's where we're talking about with his physical uh this is uh this is not the the cowboys of the 90s that you'll think of this This is pre-that era, pre-Jimmy Johnson. This is Tom Landry still the coach. Oh, Jesus. Suit, tie, fedora. That's who's on the sidelines. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Totally different era. Steve Pallor is the quarterback. Danny White is the backup. Oh, Jesus. Tony Dorsett is still there. He's about to go to the Broncos later. Herschel Walker comes in this year after the USFLorsett has gone is still there he's about to go to the broncos later herschel walker comes in this year after the usfl two tall jones is still playing two tall jones is playing man that's how long ago this was wow this is the end of all that shit too though right yeah
Starting point is 00:47:17 yeah this is the last couple years of landry before they jerry jones buys the team this jerry jones didn't know he's not even involved yet not even involved yet he's in arkansas fucking trying to speculate on oil that's what he's doing uh so right away the equipment manager gives nate the this is amazing gives nate the nickname the kitchen because he's bigger than the fridge yeah so he's the kitchen and that sticks with him his whole career really he's the kitchen the equipment. The equipment trainer. Yeah, the kitchen. Because he's the one, and he'll talk about it later on. I got a thing where he talks about how he got there and they didn't have sweatpants that fit him and shit.
Starting point is 00:47:54 This guy's got to order shit. That's what it was. They got to order special shit here. So he said he kept all the articles about how fat he was and shit. He kept them all in the scrapbook. I don't know why. It was like fuel for the fire. Either that or just to cry with some Twinkies over at night.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Just like, that is so bad. Sitting there like clump, pushing a loaf of bread down his throat. Yeah, just crinkling wrappers and one of those big sub sandwiches with just ham hanging out of it and salami and water to make it slide down. That's like a hot dog eating champion. Well, he is a rib eating champion. We'll talk about that. He's an official champion on many aspects here. He says about this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:37 He's mad about it because he says this is later on. Quote, you look around the league now and every team has one of me. Every team with a good offensive line. At least I started out as this big fat guy all by myself. It turns out I was the fucking prototype. You look around the league now and every team has one of me. Every team with a good offensive line, at least. I started out as this big fat guy all by myself. It turns out I was the fucking prototype. Very true. He really was.
Starting point is 00:48:55 He was the first guy that went, if a fat guy can move, maybe he's a decent offensive lineman. Girth isn't that bad if he's got feet. He says, the only time it really bothers me is when you come to me and say, I want to do a story on Nate the player. And all of a sudden it's nothing but fat this and fat that they just give you a whole lot of they just give you a whole lot of my fatness and after a whole page of fat they give me one lean paragraph about how he can play ball end of story that's a killer that's pretty brutal that's brutal yeah more brutal uh the dallas media guide in his rookie year about him said quote the only thing this is in the media guide this is what the only thing holding nate back is his love affair with food unreal they said that in the media guy that is
Starting point is 00:49:36 brutal man jesus the picture might as well have had like a hand-drawn hamburger around his head and like his whole career he's a french fries and a chicken wing that's the whole thing he's lucky he didn't have the carl's junior star on his oh that's what i mean yeah that's how he saw it that's how he saw it he put a yellow star on my helmet everybody else got a blue one what teams want me dallas he's colorblind he's like that's a carl's junior star on their helmet i don't care maybe he's colorblind we don't know he's like yeah man i smell french fries when i see that helmet sign me up here's how dumb i am whatever they're offering this whole time you're talking about nate newton in my head i just realized i'm seeing norton you know i'm talking about is it ken norton ken norton the linebacker yeah no fucking square
Starting point is 00:50:20 head whose dad fucking beat muhammad ali no that is not the same guy. Yeah. I'm thinking Nate Newton. I was like, I never remember Nate Newton with hair. I'm like, maybe in the late 80s. It's Ken Norton. He grew a kid in play. Ken Norton had. Also a junior, right? Norton Jr.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah. His father fucking was a great boxer. And one of the dumbest men alive. Maybe that's why I'm seeing it. Maybe. Yeah. That is Newton and Norton. Those are way different.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And Ken Norton is not fat. No, he's not. Ken Norton's in spelt. He's a middle linebacker. He's a great looking dude. He was in amazing shape. When you were saying he got fat and he was fat in high school, I was like, oh, we're about to hear a feel good story about him getting it together.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Nope. Oh, no, no. He just gets fatter here. Let's keep. Oh, this is amazing. He's looking at it together about 25 years. So, yeah. Love affair with food.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Jesus Christ. He does drop 40 pounds in the offseason, and he ends up in 87 winning the starting job, actually, but a knee injury ends up bringing him down, and then there was a strike anyway that year. It shortens the season, so it didn't matter. He said then that he was at 310, which was a good weight for him at that time he said i consider myself too heavy at 340 that was ridiculous i'm a french fry man i just had
Starting point is 00:51:35 to give those up yeah so that was him back then he uh so he had arthroscopic uh surgery on his knee before the players strike and uh he ended up coming back he can still at this point like he can dunk a basketball are you kidding me he's six two and he can dunk a basketball which you got to have ups to be six two and dunk a basketball and to be that heavy two feet he's that's not a jump a goddamn 18 inches far and he when you look at him though you see this fat guy but everybody says when you get close to him his fucking legs and he's he's like a bodybuilder with a bunch of fat on top of him basically they all say he's built like an ox like he's a like a he's super strong big muscles and everything like that he just also eats like a horse on top of everything else uh so he uh uh yeah yeah he he did all this
Starting point is 00:52:23 1986 season. The good thing here is no stats. He's an offensive lineman. We'll run through these. We'll just run through these quick. We'll just tell you how the team did. He played in 11 games in his rookie season in 86. Team goes 7-9 under Tom Landry. They even had an $80,000 weight loss incentive in his contract.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. If you lose this much weight and keep it off you get an extra bonus of 80 grand which was a big chunk shit yeah back then he wasn't making more he's right chunk today but i mean a big chunk of a contract back then for the nfl i mean he was probably making 150 grand a year maybe to play so that's you know they're saying you're gonna get another half of your money on them too because if he keeps that off, that's putting out his longevity of his career longer. And if he's good, you keep that guy around longer. You get that money back.
Starting point is 00:53:10 They think it'll be, absolutely. They think that's the, well, they think if he's 30 pounds lighter, he's worth 80,000 more to us. Right. Because he's a better player. That's the way they look at it. Just making your prize horse more money. It is.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So he says that his, he once said his ultimate ambition in life was to be able to make french fries like mcdonald's that's it that's his i'm not a fucking championship if i could have french fries afterwards that's then yes if you win a championship you probably make enough money to pay somebody just to be in your house to make he wants to be able to he wants to do it himself in the morning he needs mc needs McDonald's french fries. He needs it. So offensive line coach, a guy named Tony Wise, says that they put Newton on the Jenny Craig diet at this point. Right. God. They brought him meals.
Starting point is 00:53:54 They had an NFL locker room. Yeah. He had counseling and all this shit. And he was also part of the deal was they do it for free. But he has to show up once a week to do promotional shit. Yeah. For promotional purposes. So they they go two weeks goes by and uh you know he hadn't shown up at all for jenny craig no he disappeared so you want that shit the the strength coach sent the offensive
Starting point is 00:54:17 line because he's keeping track of it the strength and conditioning coach he sent him this is an internal memo from the cowboy sent a memo to the offensive line coach quote tony the jenny craig people have not seen nate in two weeks but all reports are he went a rib-eating contest a week ago in roanoke so no wonder he doesn't want to show up he's still covered in barbecue he's not on the jenny craig but he is entering rib-eating contest, so I think maybe he's off the rails here. He's off the track slightly. Yeah, he might have relapsed. That's fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:54:52 He did not get his $80,000 incentive that year. No, I'm sure he didn't. No, because he was literally eating a rib-eating contest. Not just, I'm gonna go have some ribs. He's like, I'm gonna eat the most ribs of anybody. Anybody that's in attendance. Anybody from far and fucking fucking wide come here and i will eat more ribs than you anybody nobody everybody lock up your phones i don't need videos of this yeah
Starting point is 00:55:15 oh man yeah can you imagine now today covered in sauce bones dangling off his chin, just a rib bone stuck in his beard, not noticing. At this time, too, you had the fat boys as a rap group. The heavy thing was kind of being glamorized a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For fat guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God, yeah. Only them. Only fat guys.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Only dudes are allowed to be gross. Yeah, and everybody goes, hey, isn't that cute and funny? Hey, isn't that adorable? Yeah, it's weird. They can dance, too. Yeah, hey, look at that. Yeah, that's sorry, ladies, isn't that cute and funny? Hey, isn't that adorable? Yeah, it's weird. They can dance, too. Yeah, hey, look at that. Yeah, that's sorry, ladies. That's not for you.
Starting point is 00:55:48 That's a double standard that just exists. It's not right, but it exists. You can, because I think also guys are less, they are less sensitive about it, too, because they're not, it's not, it's not attached to their self-worth. Well, except for Nate Newton, apparently. Well, no, Nate Newton, well, yeah, when they when they do all that when it's in the public eye but i mean like guys are more like uh if they're fat they go all right i better be funny or i better be like this or i better charming i better be something because i'm dealt a bad hand right and nobody will really even fuck with them about it
Starting point is 00:56:18 other than maybe you know one of his friends will break his balls friends definitely girls will get it way worse and they'll feel worse about themselves. Absolutely. It's fucked up. It's a different psychological thing. It's not right. It's different for kids. It's not fair.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It's not fair. So, 87, they go 7-8. That's the strike-shortened season. They go 7-8, the Cowboys do, under Tom Landry again. He started 11 games that year, started all 11 that he played in. 1988, Dallas Cowboysboys they go 3 and 13 oh jesus so this was when i mean they had nobody and this is tom landry's last year yeah this is at the end of this year uh jerry jones comes in buys the team and fucking cleans house
Starting point is 00:56:58 and him firing landry was just oh i'm sure that was... Yeah, nobody took that to nicely. He had been the coach since the early 60s. He was an icon. He had won Super Bowls. He was the Dallas Cowboy. So to fire him... You can recognize him on site still today. That's the thing, yeah. They have the shadow with the hat, and that's his deal. And so that did not
Starting point is 00:57:20 endear him, Jerry Jones, the new owner, to the old-timey fans whatsoever to fire their iconic team leader uh so that was bad but it did show that he's fucking in charge now that's what he was going for this isn't tom landry this is my team now so uh three and 13 they go nate starts 15 games so he plays in 15 starts 15 so uh he's a he's a starting nfl offensive lineman at this point under tom landry now the problem is when jimmy john when jimmy johnson comes in from miami university of miami uh they
Starting point is 00:57:51 he wants to he cleans house he gets rid of basically all of tom landry's guys he doesn't want any of these old guys doesn't want any of that old attitude he cleans house except for a few guys including nate. Somehow he likes Nate. Jimmy Johnson had success with guys like Cortez Kennedy and a couple of people like that who were heavier set linemen. So Jimmy Johnson's about what can you do on the field? He's not about how do you look on a calendar isn't what he's concerned about, which is good.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But this is 88 or 89. Trey Aikeman is drafted this year jimmy johnson brings him in michael irvin had come the year before which tom landry drafting michael irvin is the weirdest thing i've ever heard oh god that's so weird especially from the university of miami yeah which where jimmy johnson get very strange that's like hearing yeah that fuck face from Green Bay. Why can't I think of his fucking name? Aaron Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:58:47 No. Brett Favre? Brett Favre being drafted by whoever the fuck. Don Makowski? Who are we talking about? This is the fucking coach. The fucking famous coach. Jerry Glanville drafted him.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Jerry Glanville drafted Brett Favre. Never mind. I'm ruining this whole fucking thought now. Who'd you think drafted Brett Favre? I'm saying that would be like saying Vince Lombardi drafted Brett Favre. Gotcha. The timeline doesn't match up. It's just so far.
Starting point is 00:59:11 They seem like, yeah. This I fucking ruined. If I would have nailed that right out of the gate, that would have sounded great. You know what, though? The thought is right, though. Michael Irvin seems super 90s, like hip-hop doing coke off a stripper's ass and tom landry seems like in the 60s flat top black and white you know with yeah that's exactly right film sped up so he looks like he's running faster and yelling at people yelling at roger
Starting point is 00:59:36 staubach to fucking run a bootleg better throw it deeper yeah throw it throw it deeper hey there when he still talked like this tom landry does not like the play of roger stop that tag yeah you can tell by the film that he talked like this that's how i see it yeah it's fucking funny so jimmy johnson says quote when i talked to nate i said listen i'm starting fresh with you as long as you perform i'll deal with whatever problems you might have that's what he did that's how he was in college and uh yeah players could be doing anything jimmy johnson didn't give a shit. He had a very John Madden approach.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Show up when I tell you to play really hard. And if I have to bail you out of jail at two in the morning, fine. Right. That's that. Do your fucking job. Do your job. It's all he cared about. So Johnson still wanted him to lose weight, though.
Starting point is 01:00:19 He wanted him to be a little bit more in shape. So he was forced to eat. In training camp, he had to do a salad and vegetable diet, basically, where, yeah. It's the worst. Yeah, he said, quote, every night I tell myself I'm going to dream about my girl.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And he says, but it was always ham hocks. So he's just dreaming about ham. Yeah, that's to him. That's his true love. That is his true love. Can't blame him. Yeah, he said, when I came to Dallas, I was a joke, man. I weighed about 345, 350 pounds.
Starting point is 01:00:48 It was funny. Landry wanted guys who weighed like 245, 250. I came in and asked for sweatpants, and they gave me some extra large. I made them rearrange their whole equipment ordering system. They were used to dealing with small linemen. They didn't know what double X was until I got there. Even with double X, I had to squeeze into them. I introduced them to triple x yeah uh yeah i was just gonna say how the fuck is he
Starting point is 01:01:09 getting into a double yeah that's a lot jesus christ uh so that's when the manager named him the kitchen because he was too big to for a fridge i guess he said quote i don't want anybody to go through what i went through my first four years here. It was hell being me. Every time I turned around, everywhere I went, it was fat this and fat that. That sounds like a goddamn nightmare. It really does. So 89, Dallas has the worst season. I remember watching these games and just, fuck, they were terrible. They beat the Redskins on a Sunday night game, I think, was their one win.
Starting point is 01:01:41 1-15 under Jimmy Johnson the first year. It's a good game to win, though. It was. rival too so i mean but they gutted they gutted the team it was a rookie quarterback throwing acheman out there to get killed and he also had steve walsh who would come in when acheman would get a concussion every other game troy acheman's first season he went one and 15 1 and 15 chief and he wasn't even fucking playing half the time because he was concussed all the time yeah so he was a mess. Oh, my God. He'd be out of the league today with that shit.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Fuck this guy. He's not worth it. The second he started having that look in his eyes that he has now at the camera where he's like, I don't know where I am, but they programmed words into my brain and put a quarter in my back, so I will go for three hours. And then an eye starts to drift to the center like it's looking at the tip of his own nose. A guy comes in with a squeegee and a screwdriver and fucking puts it back together. And then they come back and there he is.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And he's like, fourth down. Carry the broadcast, Joe Buck. Talk about how much you love Aaron Rodgers. Come on, Buck. Distract him from the fact that this man's dying in front of us. He's having his eye worked on right now. Hold on. Troy Aikman's eyes melting down again.
Starting point is 01:02:49 We're changing his oil. Keep talking about Aaron Rodgers' cock. You love it, Joe. You love it. You want it. It's big. It's vascular. You're salivating.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yes. Fourth down, you want to get in there, too. Nate starts all 16 games here. At this point, he's had three children with three different women as well since he's been in the league and in college. So Nate, he likes his ladies, and he likes to, as we'll find out. He also likes to go out and party and go boozing and shit like that, which is apparent on September 10, 1990, when he's arrested for driving while intoxicated in Texas here. He'll ultimately be acquitted of this charge somehow.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I don't know how, but whatever. Proper calibration or something. Who knows? Or Jerry Jones had a little bit of dough floated to somebody. That's possible. Dude, I doubt nothing in Dallas. When you hear about how Jerry Jones was just as bad as the players sure jerry jones had fucking he'd have things with bringing girls in on his own thing like his own hot
Starting point is 01:03:52 fucking car limo with a hot tub with of course yeah travel across the country he's an oil guy he's not a slippery slimy fuck he's a disgusting but i love he's another one that plays that like i'm just a christian american christian businessman down here in the heart of texas just like i just like young fake tits in a hot tub in a car that's american right right everybody go cowboys go cowboys how about them cowboys all right then moving on so 1990 under jimmy johnson they go seven and nine so that's a big improvement uh there uh oh by the way he also uh uh gets in trouble in november the middle of that year for another driving while intoxicated damn it charge here uh yeah he'll eventually be acquitted of this charge as well
Starting point is 01:04:37 so but that's two duis in uh two months yeah so that's not great that he's charged with that he's charged with that's not terrific at all right there charged with. That he's charged with. That's not terrific. No, no. At all. That looks bad. It's starting to look bad here. 16 starts for him that year, though. It doesn't affect him that way.
Starting point is 01:04:51 1991, this is where shit gets, this is where you don't hear about, and this is where Nate Newton is one of the first real showings that he's a complete piece of garbage. Yeah. But you don't hear about this, though. One other guy takes the fall for this, but he ain't the only one. And let's find out here. March 21st, 1991. Newton is among 18 people arrested at an illegal dog fight.
Starting point is 01:05:14 What? In a wooded area of East Texas. Yeah. He likes to. We'll find out how many and what kind of dogs he has later on, too. How do you even find those? Because you're in the dog fighting thing. He has a bunch of dogs. has later on, too. How do you even find those? Because you're in the dog fighting thing. He has a bunch of dogs.
Starting point is 01:05:27 We'll talk about it. You've got to be engrossed in that to know where the fuck that is. Yeah, he'll talk about the next year he keeps 14 pit bulls. So you think he keeps those as his pets? Of course. And then he goes to dog fights?
Starting point is 01:05:38 He's rescuing them. Yeah, that's what he's doing. Or do you think he's... That's why he's at the dog fight. He's like, I'll take all the losers and take them home and fix them up. Yeah, that's what's going on he's breaking it up
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'm rescuing all these these are now my dogs he just didn't I'm a sweetheart apparently the IRS didn't find out about his shit so Michael Vick takes the hit which he should
Starting point is 01:05:55 but hey what about him right or was he there just delivering all the leftover rib bones that's what he might have been I got rib bones everybody you guys are not gonna believe it
Starting point is 01:06:04 I won the contest I'm a champion can you believe it over rib bones. That's what he might have been. I got rib bones, everybody. You guys are not going to believe that. I won the contest! I'm a champion! Can you believe it? Here, boy. I'm the best rib eater in all of Roanoke. He doesn't even live in Roanoke. No! He had to fucking travel. That is on the other side of the
Starting point is 01:06:20 fucking country. He had to travel for a rib eating contest. Think about that. The man got on a plane! He got a hotel room. I'm there for the rib-eating contest think about that on a plane he got a hotel room i'm there for the rib-eating contest so i need a low room so i could get out quickly like what the fuck happened so uh sheriff's deputies here said they were tipped off at the dog fight that this was a planned dog fight that they were having a big apparently this is a big thing people were betting 18 people were arrested but there was a shitload oh yeah more people there as more than 20 people ran into the nearby woods in the darkness and you're not going to catch them so uh this was uh uh uh yeah this was this was at 10 30 a.m by
Starting point is 01:06:55 the way this was going broad daylight this is yeah we're talking about this is the prime part of the day this is a business yeah that's going on here this dog fighting this this isn't our version of partying no this is you know we open at nine and we go to whatever and gross uh yeah they said most of the people who ran into the woods eventually surrendered and some got away uh newton here he's arrested near the right around the fight ring here he's released on twelve hundred dollars bond uh after his on charges of evading arrest because he tried to get away. Good luck. And illegal dog fighting because, you know, you can't do that. They said they recovered four pit bulls that had been used in the dog fights.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Two of them were so badly injured they might have to be put down. Motherfucker. Cocksuckers. And they're around there. But this is what I mean. I don't care what he did from now on. Fuck you, dude. You're an asshole.
Starting point is 01:07:44 You're a fucking asshole and uh that and he continues that's not even because it's not like a michael vick situation have you ever heard of that no did you know nate no no when he goes i thought the first nfl player in the dog fighting ring was michael vick absolutely you see the last and the last oh everyone went oh what a terrible man yeah no dude when you see nate newton with the you know measure in his waist and big smile on his face think about that he's watching dogs be fucking slaughtered brutalized yeah fucking ridiculous so i was very upset to read that shit 1991 cowboys uh they're 11 and 5 under jimmy johnson now they're a winning team they have norv turner as the offensive coordinator head coach later on dave wonstadt is the D coordinator. They're loaded.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Dave Campo is a former. Butch Davis is a future coach. It's all future head coaches here. Jimmy Johnson knew how to pick a staff. That's one thing he was really good at. They go to the playoffs, wild card round. They beat the Bears 17-13 and then get trounced by the Lions. Ouch.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Think about that. Trounced by the Lions 38-6. Wow. Barry Sanders running wild on that ass. Nobody's doing that to anybody today. No. 38-6 and then the Lions got trounced hard by the Redskins, I believe. Before the Redskins beat the Broncos.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And then the Redskins beat the shit out of the Bills. Oh, the Bills. That year, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, Redskins beat up the Bills that year. What year was that? 91. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yeah, yeah. Minnesota, the Super Bowl was, I think. 14 games for Newt. For, okay. Redskins beat up the Bills that year. What year was that? 91. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Minnesota, the Super Bowl was, I think. 14 games for Newt. For Newt. For the Newt. For the Newt. The Newt. 14 games started.
Starting point is 01:09:13 1992, this year coming up, he marries his longtime sweetheart, Dorothy Johnson. This poor, long-suffering woman. She played varsity volleyball at louisiana lafayette she's a scholarship athlete and she is uh she comes from a rough background according to her father was a very abusive alcoholic he was like a crane operator that would come home in the middle of the night shit-faced and beat the shit out of everybody and very abusive alcoholic background for her she grew up in louisiana i think so yeah grew up there and uh and ended up getting out of it with a scholarship and everything she ends up graduating
Starting point is 01:09:52 she gets a job in dallas where she meets nate newton god damn it said nate newton was just just kept fucking persisting to go out with him and uh you know he's big smile and charming and shit so she eventually took him to one of her volleyball games she was playing recreational volleyball as a you know first date yeah he said she said if you like me after i'm all sweaty and not with makeup on and shit then you like me brilliant it's cool so that's a good it's a good move and uh they end up being together and uh they end up uh kind of being getting married ahead of schedule because she gets pregnant. She says she was on the pill but still got pregnant.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah. So tough break there for you. I feel you, Nate. So they get married, and that's how that works. He's very upset about it, apparently. He tells her he already has some kids. He doesn't want any more kids. He has a lifestyle, these cowboys.
Starting point is 01:10:42 They have a lifestyle. Kids get in the fucking way. Well, wives get in the way too. Yeah. He has a lot. And she says their whole marriage, she feels like she was just a blockade between him enjoying his life.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Like he had, he had this, this opportunity to live this crazy life and she would fuck it up by asking him where he's going. You know, shit like that. You ask the person you're married to. So yeah, it was one of those 2 a.m where
Starting point is 01:11:06 are you yes she also says uh uh that she that he pressured her to get an abortion for this child because she didn't want he didn't want to get married or have any kids and she said she wouldn't she's super religious like ultra fucking southern baptist very religious yeah so she was an abortion was not happening uh the premarital sex she said she felt guilty about never mind abortion right so that's not going down so they have uh the baby we'll talk about him in a moment here uh 1992 dallas cowboys now they're starting to crush it yeah 13 and 3 this year and this is when everything's clicking emmett smith michael ervin alvin harper and trey acheman it's it's just novichak so good they were the most annoying team to watch they hated
Starting point is 01:11:49 them uh so they win 34 10 versus the eagles in the first round of the playoff uh playoffs 30 to 20 against the niners uh that year that was a good game too i remember that and then playing with the niners then uh dion no d i think dion was still with the falcons or was that his first year with the niners i remember the year because he was with the niners and with the cowboys so all right yeah that's why i asked the years i'm not positive of uh now uh the super bowl that year that's the uh michael jackson doing the halftime show and all that shit that year uh 52 to 17 is the uh crushing my god ass whooping they put on the bills statement they made that game was over yeah real early it was pointless so uh 52 17 the cowboys destroy the
Starting point is 01:12:33 bills and this is by the way they are not taking this game seriously the cowboys they talk about how uh they're just they're not taking this game seriously. They're thinking the Bills are basically fuck it, they've lost two in a row, the Bills. This is their third Super Bowl. They talk about how they were out at a bar and somebody on the Bills got in a fight and none of his teammates came in and tried to help him. And they were all like, all the Cowboys
Starting point is 01:12:58 players were like, we're going to fuck them up. If one of us, somebody threw a punch, everybody would beat the shit out of them. They would react like Hell's Angels. You fight one, you're fighting them all somebody threw a punch, everybody would beat the shit out of it. They would react like hell's angels. You fight one, you're fighting them all. And he said, they just let this guy fucking fight. They were like, whatever. They didn't even try to help him or anything.
Starting point is 01:13:13 What's the point? They were very much all about that shit. The Cowboys during the Super Bowl years would, a lot of the players, Newton, Irvin, Larry Allen, a bunch of guys would, or Williams, I'm sorry, they would rent limos to go to and from practice. They would share a limo that cost $1,000 a day to take them to and from practice. Okay. Just because it felt cool to pull up in front of all the reporters in limos. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Very fucking stupid. Just hubris. Huge. Huge. Huge as his gut. He says at this point uh i mean they win the super bowl he's elected to his first pro bowl this year so he's getting individual recognition he's a super bowl champion yeah he says i'm happy uh i'm as happy these past few years as i've ever been i look back and i see that i was nothing but a fool a clown you can't live that way uh he says now he feels better he's financially secure he's him and his wife and they have a son nate the third no it is yeah he did it it's absolutely fucking dead he juniored up a junior's
Starting point is 01:14:20 junior a third uh he will go by trey though yeah always that's the cool move at least there's that bad uh grace yeah it's this is it's not getting any better than this okay uh now that we've had grace uh dorothy his wife will write a later write a book and it's a doozy about this part about everything with nate uh the the name of the book tells you a lot it's called silent cry that you know it's inside that's a depressing ass book there's a lot. It's called Silent Cry. You know what's inside that. That's a depressing-ass book. I know. I read it.
Starting point is 01:14:49 There's a picture of Dorothy on the front in a chair looking back and down over here. Not at the camera. It's like one shade of light. It's called Silent Cry. You're like, oh, no. I got to read it. Oh, no. This poor lady.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Something bad happened here this is gonna be great something happened here oh no it's good enough that a publisher's like yes no it's all jesus and domestic violence oh my god it's fucking horrible because all she talks about is the lord and this and the lord and that and then talks about horrific scenes of being scared of this and i'm just like oh my god i don god I feel so horrible and I'm so sick of hearing about God at the same time it's just weird my emotions are too much with this book poor lady yeah she talked about her childhood and her
Starting point is 01:15:31 mother and it's it's she had a bad childhood bad stuff she says quote here's an excerpt from silent cry quote the first violence was after the Super Bowl win she says during my time with nate this is uh from first from a sports illustrated interview then she put it in her book when he should be his
Starting point is 01:15:51 happiest yeah yeah that's what i mean during my time with nate there were three super bowl wins and in fact we married in january 1992 by the fall season and it all started i think that was the first time he physically abused me although I could see signs as the verbal abuse began. She says, I do believe there is a root cause to the violence and the things that he placed upon me. I believe the success and the community and the sports bubble. I'm not making excuses. There's a lot of pressures involved. It happened quite often.
Starting point is 01:16:21 So, yeah, whenever there was any kind of pressure, he would take it out on her beat the shit out of her uh you know drag her around grab her by the hair shit like that systems built for them take their abusive take their anger out on their spouse and then the system is also built to cover that shit up that's well they do yeah and she'll talk about the cowboy still doing that and what an awful person jerry jones is basically uh 1993 before camp he weighs in and he weighs in at 401 pounds that's too much that's way too much that is wrestler level like uh you're not the one man gang that's novelty that's novelty that's silly yeah that's crazy that's a joke fat he said quote that's the only time i've ever been embarrassed about my weight i didn't even want anybody to see it and one and one he's like oh no and one 398 would have sounded so much better it's only three pounds uh he said he said i saw that and i thought they were going to have to
Starting point is 01:17:15 bury me like a piano so not great he said i went out that night and ate all the pizza and chicken i could and the next day i started dieting so he put on another 12 pounds that night one last binge he said i might go into weight gain i might go into the weight gaining business when i'm through with football i know all the wrong things to do and all the wrong times to do it so he gets his weight down from 401 pounds down to 335 so everyone's thrilled with that that's a huge improvement you know big time huge improvement. He says that he knows better than all the fitness gurus and the personal trainers. I know how to lose weight and put on weight. Trust me, I've been dealing with this shit my whole life.
Starting point is 01:17:52 See these stretch marks? Yeah. Each one's for a lesson I've learned. Each one tells a tale. Tale as old as time. Stretch marks are like rings of a tree. He says, I don't want to talk about fat talk content he goes they don't they don't talk about genetics which is true yes he says and he says quote this is
Starting point is 01:18:09 amazing by the way earl campbell is a big stocky running back for the oilers in the 70s so you'll know uh he says quote i should take you all home and have you see my grandmama she looks like earl campbell right now look up a picture of Earl Campbell. You don't want your grandmama to look like Earl Campbell. Not at all. Earl Campbell has hot links at the grocery store right now. He does. Earl Campbell sausages.
Starting point is 01:18:34 That's wow. Yeah. You don't want your grandmother to look like him. Wow. He says, and look at my mom and my daddy. See my uncles. Everybody in my family is big. So all of a sudden, I'm not supposed to be big.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I'm not a fat man. I'm a big man. Well, sort of fair. He says it's basic genetics. If you have a fat cow and a fat bull, you're going to get a fat damn calf. He says,
Starting point is 01:18:56 if you think you're going to get a giraffe, you're crazy. Well, that's, that'd be asking a little too much. It's just common sense. You don't need a lot of biology or anatomy to figure that out stop talking you're making it worse he had the first paragraph i was like yeah all right his
Starting point is 01:19:11 grandmama looks like earl campbell what the fuck you want from the guy and then i'm like wait a second uh you're not getting the giraffe chill out dude and some of that makes sense because i i know a dude a comedian you know jorge you've seen the man. Yeah, yeah. You've seen his parents. Yeah. You knew what was going to happen there. I know a lot of people. It's genetics or genetics. I've seen documentaries on it where it's, I mean, it's hard to fight genetics.
Starting point is 01:19:34 It is. It really is. Sometimes your body's just predisposed to digesting and holding things where you hold it. It happens. Just there. It's not the end of the world. It's nothing to be mocked over. There are ways to manage it.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You don't have to weigh 400 pounds. You don't have to go eat all. His grandmama doesn't weigh 400 pounds, I bet. She looks like Earl Campbell, not Nate Newton. That's the thing. I didn't say my grandmama looks like William Perry. That would have been a different story. One way to manage that is not go eat all of the chicken and all of the pizzas.
Starting point is 01:20:00 All of it that you can find. And all of the ribs and all of everything. Literally, the most ribs. The most ribs. You stop. The most ribs. You just eat a manageable amount. I bet he set a record. Yeah. I just know it.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I just know it. I bet there is an order on a menu called the Nate Newton. Can I get the Nate Newton? As a matter of fact. Oh, my God. We'll get to it. Jesus Christ. There's a deli with multiple things named after him because he's such a frequent customer.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And I know I have what's on them and everything. Oh, it's insulting. It's the best. So he says, oh, this is fun. Unbelievable. He says, quote, let me say this, brother. He turned into Hulk Hogan for some reason here. Let me say this, brother, and be for real with you.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Watch me play ball, man. Forget Sunday night showtime. Forget what you hear me say this, brother, and be for real with you. Watch me play ball, man. Forget Sunday night showtime. Forget what you hear me say on TV. Watch me play football. Just watch me. You'll see something special. If you knew football, you'd know Nate Newton is getting the job done. If you stopped and looked at the whole game of mine, you'd say there's something to me.
Starting point is 01:20:58 It's not about how fat I am, which is true. He's a fucking pro bowler every year at this point. 12-4,allas is in 1993 they beat the packers 27 17 in the first round i believe that is brett farve's like first uh playoff loss yeah i think they beat the lions in the first round and then they went that was that that lions game was the one where he rolls all the way to his left and just sort of turns his body a little and flings it 50 yards down the field and completely across the field the don't you dare do this and hits a receiver in
Starting point is 01:21:33 the back corner of the end zone on the other side of the i don't even know how he could see the fucking guy over there never mind throw the ball and fucking make a he may have been just thrown it away it was it's insane it's one of those You look that up on YouTube, you're just like, oh my God. That's why people talk about Brett Favre, and he can do stupid Wrangler commercials and show his dick to people on his phone. And people go, but he's still really good. He was great. He's so good.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Then they beat the Niners 38-21 in the championship game, and then go to the Super Bowl again against Buffalo. They're fourth straight can they win this one no fuck no they can't they lose 30 to 13 uh to the cowboys here so the cowboys are again super bowl champs uh nate has started all 16 games that year on a championship team he's a pro bowler he is fucking mr dallas uh December 7th, 93, in the middle of this wondrous run, he is arrested. Oh, boy. He's charged with driving while intoxicated.
Starting point is 01:22:32 This is dangerous. How much does it take to get that man drunk? Oh, especially because he's a drinker. He drinks. And he eats a lot, too. And he's fucking enormous. It's got to be, yeah. He's got to be a 12-pack.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Yeah, it's under the giant amount of booze. It's got to be like a 12-pack of, yeah. To catch a buzz. Yeah. Well, I mean, he doesn't have- It's got to be. Yeah, he's got to be a 12 pack. Yeah, it's under the giant amount of booze. It's got to be like a 12 pack of, yeah. To catch a buzz. Yeah. Well, I mean, he doesn't have enlarged organs like Andre. Andre could drink so much because his liver was like four times. He had enlarged organs. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah, that giant disease he had. That's why he died. Okay. Because his organs get too big. But so his liver was like way bigger than normal people. So he could just process. Filter it. Fucking no problem. Wow. Just process shit like a bastard. Super people. So he could just process. Filter it. Fucking no problem.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Wow. Process shit like a bastard. Super drinker. That's not good. No, no. Especially if you like the wine. That's a hell of a talent, but that's not good. Especially for a wrestler who has nothing to do at night.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Right. Drink as much as they have to drink. All the ribs and all the wine. So he would eat all the ribs too, Andre. I bet he did. Can you imagine? He's driving a, they call it a luxury vehicle here. He's driving at speeds of over 100 miles an hour when he rear-ends another vehicle.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Was it parked? Somehow. No, it's a Mercedes-Benz, 100 miles an hour, and it's driven by a woman named Angela Pustajofsky, who's 22 years old at the time. Somehow doesn't kill her. Somehow doesn't fucking kill her. She is taken to the hospital and ends up being released later on. So it doesn't injure her too bad, but he's drunk when he plows into someone going 100, which is terrible.
Starting point is 01:23:58 So he's also a reckless driving thing in here and a DWI. He's released without bond somehow. They didn't even make him put a Bond up. I guess he's going to be on TV this weekend. You can find him. He's not going to run away, probably. Yeah, so that's December 7th there. 1994, June 20th.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Big old fluff piece. So many fluff pieces on Nate here on out. No matter what he does, they'll fluff it up. Sure. This is a fluff piece in Sports Illustrated by Lee Montville. It's called, quote, The Way He Was. It's about what a great person he's turned into. This is while his wife says he's beating him.
Starting point is 01:24:34 And he's arrested for a dogfight three years ago. This person could have just fucking looked that up and found, rather than do a fucking article about what a great guy he is. He damn near killed a goddamn grad student. She's 22. Six months before this article came out. great guy he is. He damn near killed a goddamn grad student. She's 22. Six months before this article came out. He's a child. He almost murdered her.
Starting point is 01:24:49 He almost killed a young lady. Three years before that, he's in an illegal dog fighting thing. But great guy. Amazing guy. The way he was. Wow. Yeah. This is articles about how he used to be a bully, but now he's so nice.
Starting point is 01:25:02 In college, he was a dick. This is this article. He says, quote, I was terrible. I was the worst. If you were having a party and I wasn't invited, I would walk inside and shut that motherfucker down. Just shut it down. I wasn't very good at I was very good at shutting a party down.
Starting point is 01:25:17 He says, quote, There's a woman who can tell you about me. Her name is Pam Oliver, the reporter. She's a reporter for espn she went to college with me at florida a&m she was the girlfriend of my best friend tony hayes two years ago jesus christ we played a pre-season game in tokyo and she showed up i hadn't seen her since college and there she was i smiled and started to say hello i just saw her eyes go real wide i could see she wanted to run away i said pam wait i'm not like that anymore really i'm a different guy and uh they asked pam oliver for this article was nate
Starting point is 01:25:51 newton really that bad and she said quote nate newton was a monster that was her quote what the fuck did he do nate newton was a monster it's not just words right it had i don't know what to scare her she's the way he said she reacted was like she was scared. Like, oh, God. Did he open a child or something? That's what I mean. What did he do? What did he do to her?
Starting point is 01:26:13 I wish Pam Oliver would talk. Tell me, Pam. Say it, Pam. Where did he touch you, Pam? How did he hurt you? She said that she saw Nate Newton at the Super Bowl in 1993. Quote, he was sitting there with a microphone and with his little name card in front of him talking to all these people.
Starting point is 01:26:29 He was talking so nice, and everyone was writing down what he said. I said to myself, look at Nate. He's all grown up. So look at that. Look at Nate. He just doesn't give a shit about fucking murdering dogs. That's fine. So late June 1994, his DUIi court dw i court in texas here he plead he there's a
Starting point is 01:26:48 plea deal to one of the two charges so he pleads and they drop the other charge that's how it works and it's just a fine and all that shit wow no big deal back then a texas dui come on now that's uh that's a new york shoplifting they're like were you shooting your gun out the window while you were drunk? Well, we can let it slide then. That's all right. Did you have your horse tied to the bumper? That's a problem. That's a goddamn first degree murder.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Now, I know I asked you if you were shooting your gun out the window, but that does make a difference. If you were shooting at Mexicans, we can let it slide. Drunk or sober. Doesn't matter. That's all right in Texas. That's considered a law texas that's considered a lawful action it's you know it's called getting the party started that's that's all it is it's like in louisiana when they shoot them things that crawl up out the bayou it's that's how we
Starting point is 01:27:34 consider them down here in texas sorry good lord well you know i can see jerry johns saying that absolutely he goes what were you doing n? Nate, you have the gun out? Were there Mexicans, Nate? All right. All right. As long as there was something to shoot at. Officer, I would like to say there were Mexicans. In my defense, I heard Spanish being spoken.
Starting point is 01:27:58 So I fired indiscriminately. Turns out it was just the radio. That's Texas law, right? That's okay. So they go to the playoffs this year. They're 12-4 in 94. They beat Green Bay 35-9 in the divisional round. And then they have a great game with San Francisco in the championship game.
Starting point is 01:28:15 And San Fran wins that one. San Fran goes on to beat the living piss out of San Diego that year. I think Steve Young had like six touchdown passes or something. So he starts all 16 games, though. Nate does goes to the pro ball that year so again just doing well individually as a team 1995 cowboys they go 12 and 4 uh that was uh that was the first year by the way 94 under barry switzer that's when jimmy johnson left okay so barry switzer comes in and is considered not a good not a great coach uh he's not the same and when you hear about it like a reading about it in that book it's he's just doesn't have the
Starting point is 01:28:50 same hold over it is jimmy johnson is just not the same guy he's a pushover he's a yeah he's a whatever they want he's a facilitator he kind of lets people do what they want he's a i don't know how to describe him here uh but this year 95 they go uh 12 and 4 they beat the eagles in the divisional round they beat the packers in the conference jesus the packer fans must have fucking that's like four straight years they've knocked them out of the playoffs and then uh uh the uh they go all the way to the super bowl which was here in tempe right uh and they beat the steelers 27 17 and what was it? Larry Brown had all those interceptions and was MVP and signed a huge deal with the Raiders and never did anything again.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Yeah, that's how that works. 16 starts that year again. Pro Bowl again for him. So, I mean, the Cowboys are doing fine. That's the end of their Super Bowl run. Really? That was when it went off. It just went six years, huh?
Starting point is 01:29:43 Yeah, that was it. Five years, yeah. Because the salary the salary that's about what it takes the salary cap came in in 94 and that's when everything went off the rails and you basically had a couple years to figure your shit out because you were going to have a great equalizer bitch before that you could just buy you could build a team you could build a team with good players and you could sign free agents and everything like that uh but this point though he's very fat yeah getting real fat again uh this is from a deli that he liked okay uh that he was frequented all the time there's three nate newton related items three three i've never been somewhere where one person is three never on the menu i've never heard that that's amazing i've
Starting point is 01:30:21 heard of two but one's like a main dish and then the side you know what i mean this is three main things sandwiches uh three sandwiches oh boy uh number one the nate special which is a breakfast sandwich it's two fried eggs sausage bacon cheese mayo lettuce and tomato that is so much which sounds absolutely repulsive yeah That sounds terrible. I would not fucking... Mayo and bacon and cheese and sausage and eggs. Imagine that yolk mixing in with the fucking mayo. Good God. God, Jesus, James. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Don't do that. Oh, my God. He eats that. Oh, Jesus. I mean, there's eggs in mayo, too. That's so much. The whole thing is too much egg. James, are you about to tell me that you could go to this place and have a breakfast,
Starting point is 01:31:11 lunch, and dinner all named after Nate? Let's find out. All right. Let's find out. Next one is the Newton Ultimate. Yeah. That is a half pound burger to start with. Half pound burger. Bacon, ham, turkey.
Starting point is 01:31:22 So let's add three more meats. On the burger? On the burger. So let's say it's a bacon, ham, turkey burger. Oh's add three more meats. On the burger? On the burger. So let's say it's a bacon, ham, turkey burger. Oh boy. Let's add all that. Swiss cheese, American cheese, mayo, lettuce, tomato on Texas toast. Dear Lord, that's so much food.
Starting point is 01:31:35 That's a big sandwich. So many animals have to die for you to have a sandwich. You need a whole farm for that. You got birds, you got fowl, you got pig, everything. People pulling fish out of the water. There's just too much going on to get a sandwich. You need a whole farm for that. You got birds, you got fowl, you got pig, everything. People pulling fish out of the water. There's just too much going on to get this.
Starting point is 01:31:49 We got to make, Nate's open. Oh, Jesus Christ. Run the slaughterhouse and turn it all on. Let's go. What's on it? Turkey?
Starting point is 01:32:00 Half pound burger with bacon, ham, turkey. Bacon, ham, turkey. And Swiss and American cheese. And beef. So you've got every piece of the pig, ham, turkey, and Swiss and American cheese. And beef. So you've got every piece of the pig. Beef, turkey, pig in multiple forms. All kinds of animals are dying for this.
Starting point is 01:32:13 It's so bad. And then there is the Newton Extra, which is on the quote big dogs menu. Oh, Jesus. So the other two are for your regular folks. That's for the light folks. This is for if you're real. You're light eating? It was on the lighter side.
Starting point is 01:32:29 What are you, a bitch? Jesus. Are you a little bitch or what here? Yeah. Are you some kind of little girl or what? This over here is for the rib champs. Yeah, this is what you're some kind of little girl. Hey, put your pigtails aside.
Starting point is 01:32:42 You're going to get barbecue sauce on them. Don't get any of this egg and mayo in your pigtails aside you're gonna get barbecue sauce on them so don't get any of this egg and mayo in your pig the newton extra is bacon ham turkey swiss cheese american cheese mayo lettuce tomato on texas toast plus grilled chicken or hamburger patty so that's basically his sandwich minus the other stuff but you can get that on there. Good Lord. He has three items here on this. How does the man?
Starting point is 01:33:09 This is the kind of girth we're talking about here. Three different menu items that he invented. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You could be him. Unreal. Oh, God. Gross. 1996 Dallas.
Starting point is 01:33:20 They go 10 and 6. This one starts to kind of fall apart. They beat the Vikings. They beat them up in the wild card round. Then they lose to the Panthers in 96. Remember, this was like the Panthers' second year. Green? Yeah, the Panthers played Green Bay in the championship game in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 01:33:37 It was their second year, too. Went to the AFC championship game and lost to the Patriots that year. So Green, was he the fucking linebacker? That guy Green that played for the Panthers? Wasn't that his name? God damn it. I don't know. Oh, Kevin Green.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Kevin Green. Defensive lineman. Yeah. Defensive lineman. He wrestled, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. WCW. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:33:54 One more wrestling. It's Reggie White. I think Reggie White was involved in that, too, but McMichael was in it. There you go. Steve McMichael, the ex-bear here. 16 starts that year. Now let's talk about the White House shit a little bit here. Now, like I said, we're going to get into this in heavy detail when we do a Michael Irvin episode, which is definitely going to happen.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Can't wait. Now, this is about an alleged sexual assault is how all this comes to light. There's an alleged sexual assault that ends up the police end up clearing the players in this, or at least clearing Michael Irvin on this. Now, there was a sexual assault where the players end up suing Channel 5 in Dallas for leaking. Basically, they're suing the Channel 5 and they're suing the Dallas police, saying that their civil rights were violated by the Dallas police, leaking false reports to Channel 5 and disseminating it on them. And now everyone thinks that they're rapists, basically. It was a young lady saying that she was Michael Irvin held a gun to her head while several people raped her, including Michael Irvin.
Starting point is 01:34:58 That's the charge here. Turns out that Michael Irvin was not even at the house that night. And this is didn't. That's a hell of an. That's a big accusation. That's a big accusation. Way worse than the Oliver Miller one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah. No, that's this is that's horrible shit. Yeah. I'm not there. That was horrible, too. But this is like they're saying this is like a straight violent gang. Right. Fucking.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Yeah. Like a like robbing a liquor store. Yeah. So this is obviously not your your typical this is a very very serious allegation horrible so yeah the the the the they start suing basically uh uh the cowboys start suing people over this and uh uh this is the opposite of what jerry jones wants he's trying to clean up the cowboys image at this point he wants them to be america's team and all that shit but they're having you know coke coke and and and stripper parties so they're not when the columbia team jokes started yeah exactly exactly this is all that kind of shit
Starting point is 01:35:55 here and uh the the white house deal this didn't even happen in the white house or allegedly uh but the white house was was basically a suburban home that was near the Cowboys practice facility that was in an upscale neighborhood, just a two-story nondescript house that a bunch of the players bought. Alvin Harper was the owner of record, the receiver, but a bunch of the players bought and they used it as their party den. It was just big, huges and pool tables and you know
Starting point is 01:36:25 places to have sex with good for them they would bring in just girls by the carload into there to just women as far as the eye could see and drugs and have a good old time and they had the whole place wired for video what and uh oh yeah it was fucking disgusting absolutely disgusting there are some gross videos out there. Why would you want that? That's what I'm saying. I don't want to know. Lock that in your brain or delete it and forget it.
Starting point is 01:36:51 That's all you got. I don't want to know. And a lot of the players that be in there didn't even know they were being filmed. That's the thing. So it was messed up here. Now, Jesus Christ. They're talking about Williams, who was the main. He was the guy who was accused mainly of
Starting point is 01:37:06 this assault uh williams and uh newton on tv says that williams uh he considers him to be a close friend but he says quote i don't hang around him no more uh no more than at team functions when he comes and when he asked me to ride to him with uh to the cowboy cafe he said i don't have no tapes referring to all because they asked about videotapes he said i don't have no tapes referring to all because they asked about videotapes he says i ain't never had i ain't never had multiple sex with eric or nothing or his partners so he's like i don't know i'm not involved in eric williams shit i've never seen his dick i don't know anything about it i like in the locker room but never extracurricular dick sighting of eric i don't fuck with eric yeah like we hang out and eat together but we don't
Starting point is 01:37:45 like fuck at the same time you know it's different well we get a newton deluxe yeah i throw one to him he's like sweet and he likes it obviously here uh so he ended up uh there's a transcript there's a deposition and all this shit where newton ends up he's like the only guy who ends up being successfully deposed here uh yeah he he says that uh jesus christ they they ask him about shit and he says that he's been to the white house a couple times because they ask him a bunch of shit like that uh he says that uh newton said that uh he was leaving there were the williams and and ervin had this lawyer and uh they were talking about what they should do and apparently uh newton said that they that ervin and williams and the lawyer decided to make it uh about uh about race like as their strategy and he said uh newton says quote i say why y'all think they're doing this? And that's when he said that he says, I don't know whether Eric or Mike said it because I'm black.
Starting point is 01:38:50 And I said, well, that's shit. That ain't right. It's not because you're black. And that's when the lawyer said, no, it's because they're black. That's our strategy. Like, you know, blah, blah, blah. So Newton didn't agree with that strategy. He was like, they're not going after you because you're black.
Starting point is 01:39:02 They're going after you because you're famous. And you're just a chick saying he put a gun to their heads up and you're running and doing dumb fucking things well that's one of those things i mean i'm sure that didn't whatever the public perception wasn't wasn't a great look but if troy if there was an allegation that daryl johnston or troy acheman had a fucking gun to a chick's head while while jay novacek raped her i think that would be on the news. I think it's equal. It's going to get equal airtime.
Starting point is 01:39:28 They'd probably talk about that is what I'm just saying. I think that's a huge allegation here. It could be Doug Flutie and Don Beebe and it would still be 6 o'clock news. Big news. Jim Kelly post-cancer. It'd be a huge story. Huge story. Came right out of a chemo treatment with his dick hard and looking for some action.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And a nine millimeter. No. By the way, good to see Jim Kelly's not going to die now. So great. That's a fucking miracle. It's amazing. Good for him, dude. The guy was amazing.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Good for him. And what a classy loser. Yeah, absolutely. To not off yourself after all that. I give him, not only that, he didn't just go, let the cancer take me! I've had enough! To fight through it.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Dude's a fighter. He is the face of failure. I mean, he succeeded to get to fail, but he's still the face of failure. He's the face of, yeah, he's a lot of second place finishes. A lot of, yeah, it's famous second places, you know, him, Hitler.
Starting point is 01:40:26 There's not, you know. Just kidding. Not good. There aren't many. There aren't many that are that consistently second place. Yeah, that's what I mean. You got to hand it to him. He fails a lot.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Both World Wars and Jim Kelly. So that's it. And Jim Kelly did it four times four worse than germany jim kelly worse than germany he has a worse super bowl record that germany has a world war record think about that that's not that's not great that's bad when hitler's like i'm owing too but they know hitler wasn't in charge in the first world but he was in the army so you know i'm saying Great. That's bad. But Hitler's like, I'm 0-2. Because I know Hitler wasn't in charge in the first world, but he was in the army. So, you know, we're 0-2. You're 0-4, pal.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Granted, that second one was a big L. That was a huge L to hang on. That might count for two or three. That one might be remembered before you're four, but you still got four. Four. Now. Remembered before your four, but you still got four. Four. Now, they ask Nate about the White House, and he gets mad about this, and this is his defense of it, okay? This is his, like, what the fuck do you want from us, man? Because he's saying he's saying in this in this interview that like the press comes down on them too hard. And they're for everything they do.
Starting point is 01:41:49 It's like it's under there under the microscope and all. It's like, well, yeah, you're the biggest thing in town. That's what it is. When you win, you fucking are scrutinized. That's what happens. He we just made fun of Tom Brady for somebody else doing something that had nothing to do. We blamed him for it. That's what happens.
Starting point is 01:42:02 So he says he says quote about the white house this is his like what the fuck dude he says quote wow we've got a little place over here when we were running some whores in and out trying to be responsible and we're criticized for that too what the fuck what is this 1912 and i repeat he sounds like al swearingen that's a deadwood reference j Jimmy. That's what I mean. Quote, we've got a little place over here where we're running some whores in and out trying to be responsible, and we're criticized for that, too. You've got a respectable business.
Starting point is 01:42:34 I've got a respectable whorehouse going on here. He didn't even say it's not even a business. He just said, we're doing it off to the side. So doing it all respectable-like, bringing strippers in. Like, what the fuck man you guys are criticizing us for that you're married you dummy then they went you running some whores so what what does that mean that's what they said does this mean you have like a like a prostitution ring going on and he says he clarified uh by saying whores he said running
Starting point is 01:43:02 a few whores quote through the party house he said quote jesus well you know what i meant boy did i say that out loud that's i that was supposed to be to michael irvin that was supposed to be my inner monologue just running some whores trying to be responsible these motherfuckers won't leave us alone oh that you're you look oh oh jesus i thought that was michael irvin i don't have my glasses on. Sorry. He says, quote, well, you know, when I when I meant the word whores, I was just talking about females. Dig deeper. I was just, you know, just anybody who's a female.
Starting point is 01:43:36 That's a whore to me. That's, you know, I didn't mean anything by it. Whoa. OK. Well, you know, when I meant the word whores, I was just talking about females. You don't have to go out and buy no women i mean so i don't want people to think that i was saying prostitutes or nothing like that just women that got together and had fun with us that's what he meant by whores
Starting point is 01:43:56 that's clarification it was way better if they just thought that you brought prostitutes in way better so great than the fact that you just meant any woman that would hang out with you you just called a whore for no reason that's why i said that earlier because it was their vernacular whores gorgeous i was just talking about females i don't want anyone thinking that it was prostitutes or nothing like that i meant that all women are whores just so you know i'm a nice guy this man kept his job you imagine saying that shit in a board meeting and then they sitting you down and you're like i mean no not prostitutes you guys i just meant all women you know what i mean all women like whores you know all women are so i'm fired i meant yeah put my shit in a box is that what you want me to do all women no all women
Starting point is 01:44:39 are whores right right that's no fuck i thought i was doing i thought i was making it better i thought i was making it better and now i guess i fucked it up worse nate that's not the right thing to say stupid man kept his job oh my god oh yeah they were like that's just nate you know so let's not talk to him anymore they cheered him in dallas yay he thinks we're all whores. Yay. 50% of the audience. Whores. That's what he sees. All these men drinking beer brought their wives, you fucking jerk.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Good evening, whores and gentlemen. Nice to see you. This is not okay. As the announcer should have. Whores and gentlemen, please stand now for the national anthem. Stand for our national anthem. For all the whores and gentlemen, please stand now for the national anthem. Stand for our national anthem. For all the whores and men in service uniforms. Gentlemen, pull your whores up by their hair and make them stand erect for the national anthem. We all know they're too stupid and sleazy to do it on their own.
Starting point is 01:45:40 They have too much penis on the mind. What are they doing? Unreal. This is ridiculous this is all sarcastic and making fun of them by the way if somebody just hears a clip of this and goes jesus these guys are awful no we're making fun of them so please stand for our men in service whores yeah we honor our national all of our men and service. We honor our national anthem. All of our men and whores in uniform overseas fighting, we'd like to thank you. Thank you for your service to this country, you filthy, filthy whores. And wonderful men.
Starting point is 01:46:16 And wonderful young men. Such brave men. Brave men and filthy whores. That's... brave men and filthy whores that's ah christ that's so awesome un-fucking-real i can't believe nate newton i can't believe that was his clarification that was his hold on i didn't mean who you think he meant that was like all women he made a comment about black people he said no no you got it all wrong i meant no you missed what i was trying to say was that black people are lazy and stupid that's what i was getting at genetically it's just they can't help it you know what i mean
Starting point is 01:46:55 they're just they're born lazy that's just how they're wired that's what i meant that's what he said basically that was what he said that was the equivalent of a racist backtracking and explaining himself in that way what the fuck are you talking about you stupid asshole you dog fighting fucking idiot so wow um yeah he barry switzer's mad at the media not the players at all he's bad he says how dare you guys allow him to talk? Don't give Nate a microphone. I've warned you idiots about this. He said he isn't taking any criticism either.
Starting point is 01:47:33 He's like, that shit isn't my fault. First of all, these are all Jimmy Johnson's guys. Second of all, they do what they want. He says, if I'm part of the overall spectrum that people want to think this comes from the top on down, they're full of shit. Because everyone is responsible for their own behavior, their own actions, their own characterizations of women. I'm sure you wanted to add on there. All that. He says, you make good choices or bad,
Starting point is 01:47:53 and it damn sure ain't going to be whether your mama or daddy had an influence on it, or your coach, or the director of your program, or your general manager, or whoever. It's your choice. They're all grown men and whores. They're all grown men and whores that know what they're doing jesus fucking christ uh so this is they're talking about the this is before the
Starting point is 01:48:13 players are all cleared of the alleged gunpoint sexual assault and barry switzer says quote i don't think anything is going to happen why the hell haven't they been arrested by now that's my attitude why does the police department have a press conference but not arrest anyone it stinks so he's all in defense of the players here uh yeah so august 14th 1997 uh nate newton is named in a sexual assault complaint who's a completely different this has nothing to do with yeah the other one this is kind of a weird one though this is why barry switzer lost his hair yeah all at once yeah yeah he doesn't even get to have silver hair for christ's sake it just falls out this was up this was two months after the horse thing now this comes out uh here he said this is a woman names him in a complaint he's not been charged
Starting point is 01:48:59 with a crime yet uh the woman uh this is a woman he's had a relationship with this is a woman he's been having an affair with for the last year and a half on his wife and uh apparently this woman had been calling his wife and telling dorothy that i'm having an affair with nate and dorothy didn't believe her and then she was like well he does this there's this and that she's like oh he's fucking she's fucking nate yeah there's a whore on the phone. Nate, one of your whores is here. One of your whores is here. You're Janice Rossi. You're nothing but a whore.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Too hard, Rossi. Wow. So that's that. She says that this happened at her home in Grand Prairie in June here. She said that he came to her home at about 1 a.m. on June 15th and sexually assaulted her. That's the deputy here. She said that he came to her home at about 1 a.m. on June 15th and sexually assaulted her. That's the deputy here. September 3rd, 97, they go to the grand jury and he's cleared of allegations that he raped this woman here. The defense attorney said that she was trying to extort money from him. Apparently, she went to him and tried to get money out of him before she went
Starting point is 01:50:02 to the police. So that makes her case not look as good. He spent an hour before the grand jury and they did not indict him on the sexual assault charge that was recommended by the prosecutors. Yeah, he said they didn't have any comment when they left the place here. They said the jurors, quote, they probably did not appreciate this monetary negotiations breaking down prior to the time that the criminal justice system is brought into play. That's what that's what people are guessing. That's what one of the attorneys says. They did hear a recording. This is from the woman's answering machine from June 17th, where Newton appears to apologize for the actions on the 15th.
Starting point is 01:50:44 And they said that was the strongest evidence against nate uh one of the the prosecutor said it's an apology sort of and an admission sort of so he's does one of those you know apologizes for getting rough with her or some shit like that here uh now four witnesses uh nate his wife testified before the panel here, and also they reviewed a packet of four letters from these women's lawyers and also a letter from Jerry Jones saying what a great employee Nate is here. One of the letters sent to Nate demanded $650,000 or threatened publicity or criminal prosecution. So that's what that was. Now, his lawyer is acting like not only are they lucky to get off on it, but they're, how dare they? She said, his lawyer says, quote, we're going to take a serious look at her lawyer's actions
Starting point is 01:51:34 now. It's not as though we went in making a bunch of demands unsolicited. They wanted to try to resolve this matter monetarily. So now the woman says she plans to file a civil lawsuit. And yeah, they said that they have no choice because the courts have not made Nate take responsibility for his actions. His lawyer says, I'm very happy. It does not take a lot of evidence to get someone indicted.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Anything can happen. Mr. Newton wants to play football, get on with his life, help dallas cowboys win another super bowl how about them cowboys how what what color is my hair boy what color is it how silver it is as silver as a dallas cowboys helmet oh that's right it's unreal that dallas cowboys helmet what an appropriate color that is jerry jones should wear it all times just You should always wear that helmet around. It sparkles. It sparkles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:34 He said they asked him about the crime, and his lawyer said, it's not totally unexpected. We tried to prepare ourselves for exactly this situation because of the mystique of the cowboys. So this is a mystique of the cowboys' fault here. His lawyer said, I'm tired of hearing that. He's also the one that said that this wasn't about seeking money. It's about seeking justice, talking about the other lawyer. And yeah, so all this goes down. Nate is not cleared, but he's not indicted.
Starting point is 01:52:57 So whatever that, for whatever that's worth. 97, the Cowboys start to stink. They're 6-10. This is a good time. 6-10, Nate plays in 13 games and starts all 13. 1998, they go 10-6. Barry Switzer is now gone. Chan Gailey has come in.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Oh, good God, I remember that. Yeah, Chan Gailey has come in. This is the end for the whole thing. This is the end of the Cowboy. This is when they finally break it down and rebuild because they are beaten in the wild card round by the Cardinals. They go, okay. That's their first playoff win since the 40s, guys.
Starting point is 01:53:33 We should probably, this isn't good. First playoff win in this city. Ever. And franchised since the 40s. I believe when they were in Chicago. I don't think they were in St. Louis yet. That's how, fuck, two cities ago was the last time they won this shit when fucking world war two was going on jesus they got us several leases on other stadiums yeah and and now we lose to them
Starting point is 01:53:57 we let no when scott's all going down from there uh he started all 16 games that year nate did made the pro bowl again so i mean it's not for anything he's doing. That year, his contract is up with the Cowboys, and he goes and signs a free agent deal with the Carolina Panthers. Really? Yeah, one season there. He ends up tearing his tricep halfway through the year, and he's done. This is the Steve Berline Carolina Panthers. Yeah, this is right before the
Starting point is 01:54:25 jake delomera here the berline panthers ugly it's ugly they go eight and eight george seaford the old 49er coach was their coach they're very silver his hair is berline fucking beat them when they when was he with the quarterback for the cardinals then i'll bet he was he was around for what plumber was the 97 that was plumber oh okay plumbers uh or not the the yeah that was plumbers rookie year wasn't it i don't know 98 when they lost to the when they yeah 98 when they lost in the playoffs to the cardinals that was plumbers rookie year okay yeah 97 was that rose bowl okay okay yeah it was his rookie year yeah he was terrible but he was done anyway so berline was before him berlines before him yeah he was back in the air that was that was
Starting point is 01:55:03 horrible cardinal said goddamn tom Tupa at one point. It was tough. Who's a fucking punter later. It was tough to watch that. He's such a good quarterback, he turned into a punter. That's how good of a quarterback he was. Can you move the ball with any other appendage of your body? Can you do that?
Starting point is 01:55:17 Can you do that? I can kick it pretty far. Good. Let's do that. Great. Because you are no good with your arms. You're not making it go down that way with your arms so good. So let's try with your feet. Can you push it further with your foot? Let's do that. Great. Because you are no good with your arms. You're not making it go down that way with your arms so good. So let's try with your feet.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Can you push it further with your foot? Let's do that, shall we? Jesus Christ. So, yeah, this season here, he says, Jesus Christ, he says that he can't wait for the interview around Thanksgiving. And on television, he says that he can't wait for Thanksgiving because all he sees is food. He says, my mother-in-law, my mother-in-law, I see my mother-in-law as my mother-in-law. When I see her, I look at her as gumbo.
Starting point is 01:55:52 I look at my mom as collard greens. I look at my wife as fried chicken, my favorite dish. He wants to eat his family. He sees he's like Bugs Bunny on a fucking cartoon. He turns into like a chicken and a hamburger and start dancing around that's what's happening here he's so hungry so his mom turned into a hot dog his grandmama turned into earl campbell who turned into a hot link i'm gonna put them all on a fucking piece of texas toast and gobble them down put some ham and bacon and swiss cheese on it and turkey and you got
Starting point is 01:56:21 something here so 99 is his last NFL season. He retires after that and pretty much broke, spends all his money, goes through it as he's doing it. In 2000, he and his wife divorced. Now, Dorothy decides she wants to leave him. And we'll talk about a scene from when this happened when or later on but she uh she wants to leave him and she's she uh basically uh they end up he's got no money they end up selling their home which is basically all the money they have and splitting the proceeds from that and that's the money he has here uh he works for espn radio and a little bit uh does some college football on BET, uh,
Starting point is 01:57:07 television, some commentating, you know, trying to get his feet wet in that aspect of it. But he needs money. Yeah. He needs to make some money. He's used to a big lifestyle of making big money. And now he just kind of, he always kind of lived up to his means and then the playing days are over and he's got no money saved up and that's that. So kind of fucked at that point.
Starting point is 01:57:25 He never had that $100 million contract. He was an offensive lineman and a guard, and back then they just didn't get those kind of contracts. Your glory is that fucking ring on your finger. Yeah, nowadays if you're a left tackle, that is a primo. You're getting paid almost as much as the quarterback because without you, that quarterback is worthless. Yeah, he's going to be injured, so it doesn't matter. So now they realize how important offensive linemen were. But back then, they were like, they're important, but we're not giving them a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:57:51 No one knows who the fuck you are, dude. It's they're important, but don't fucking tell them. Yeah, don't tell them they're important. Exactly, because it was like, no one knows who you are. You're not selling tickets. So fuck you. There's eight of you on this field right now. Yeah, and the Cowboys, their whole thing was their running game and that offensive line was a
Starting point is 01:58:07 beast i mean they were we didn't talk about it but their offensive line was the reason that team was i mean they were good in all aspects but troy achman had all fucking day back there and emma smith had holes huge holes huge holes they were they were gaps they were so big he was great but they had they were they were popping huge holes. He was good, but you put him on the Cardinals and see how great he is. You put him on a shit team with no line, he's not going to be that good. Because he didn't have the skills. I never saw anybody take a hit glancing better than him.
Starting point is 01:58:39 He never took a hard hit his entire career. He was able to position his body to where he would slide to the ground. He was moving away from someone as they hit them always to where it was just kind of a tackle like a slide tackle not any big pop him and barry sanders i don't think barry sanders i've never even seen anybody really tackle him well he's gonna grab his jersey and drag him to the ground hold on to him like a fucking wolf and just try to bring him touch his knee to the ground and he can't get back up again just put in more more more effort and energy on him than his knee to the ground and he can't get back up again just put a more more more effort and energy on him than his legs can push which is tough and that'll bring his as long as
Starting point is 01:59:11 his knee touches elbow that's that's it i've seen run those there's a couple where guys think he's down where like he goes basically flat but he's kind of like a push-up right and he pops right back up and he's gone and they're like for another 20 yards they were all they'd stopped and started getting back up and taking their helm he's running down the field like what the hell happened here so november 4th 2001 uh he's in louisiana uh he's in a van uh with some people some other people uh he's with a a couple of women a fay Cleveland, 46 years old, and a Marvo Way, who's 49 years old. And Ricky Glenn Williams is driving a truck at this, the truck as well. And so they're all in this van and they are pulled over for a traffic violation at 6 a.m.
Starting point is 01:59:58 on a Sunday morning. Yeah. So, I mean, you know. Hurry into church. Dude, we got to get there fast. We're going to so many churches this morning. We start early. Stop signs, and I'll punch you in the back of the head.
Starting point is 02:00:08 You know how that goes. You keep driving. Go. Yeah. Church. So, apparently, they said that, quote, the driver seemed nervous and gave consent to search the van. So, they searched the van, and what they find in it is unexpected for 6 o'clock on a Saturday
Starting point is 02:00:24 morning. searched the van and what they find in it is unexpected for six o'clock on a saturday morning they find cardboard boxes filled with 213 pounds of weed wow that's a lot of weed that's a heavy car that's a lot now i like weed yeah i love but 213 pounds is arguably more than you need for a while i would say it's going to take a while to you that's not for personal use that'll be dry and garbage but by the time it gets smoked it's hard to tell somebody while. That's not for personal use. That'll be dry and garbage by the time it gets smoked. It's hard to tell somebody that that's all for me. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:49 I'm just we're having a party tonight. Like that's 213 pounds. There's no way. You better have a humidor. That's for. Yeah, that's for other people, obviously, here. So, yeah, Nate is in the car. He's arrested as well.
Starting point is 02:01:02 They're arrested for possession with intent to distribute marijuana, obviously. The driver was charged with something extra as well. There's also $18,000 in cash in the truck that was seized there. Yeah, so they're all charged with that. This doesn't look good at all. This looks terrible here. They're put in jail. Bail is set at $200,000.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Nate makes bail so he gets out he's out for a few weeks and he's like fuck what do you do here oh boy what do you do you're you're you're this isn't good for you now you're behind the eight ball with legal shit oh boy and you're less you're less employable now because you just had a high that was a very publicized thing oh i'm sure hilarious 213 pounds of weed for a guy who just retired from the nfl what are you doing stupid why are you in the van where's your money how about just tell them to drive the shit you're famous dummy stay the fuck home why do you hire people you can't trust that's with their weed who are you why would you deal with them i don't know what he's doing he
Starting point is 02:02:00 hasn't figured this out very well so that that's November 4th. This happens. So December 12th, their Drug Enforcement Administration agents flagged down Dallas County police officers on a highway to ask for help in stopping two vehicles that were traveling together in a little caravan here. Now, there was a pickup truck and a car under surveillance. And this all came after an informant tip, is what the DEA agent says here. So they end up pulling these vehicles over on I-635 in Dallas, and this is fucking amazing. By the time the deputies determined that they were actually federal agents, they caught up to the vehicles and stopped them just inside ellis county as they left dallas county okay these people here now uh this is amazing newton and two other men are arrested why because what's in the truck 175 pounds of marijuana what is he doing 175 pounds of wheat did he think like they'll never suspect me only five no one would be that stupid i just got arrested five fucking weeks ago
Starting point is 02:03:05 for this no one's that stupid they'll never suspect me they'll stop me and be like you know i am there's no no way you don't have weed on you right no not anymore shit not after last time elbow elbow have a good one how about them cowboys have a good one nate nope he uh 175 175 pounds of weed now he is fucked because he's on you know he's he's on out on bail you're not allowed to get arrested while you're out on bail for things they'll revoke your bail then you don't get out of jail anymore so he's arrested with possession with intent to distribute again after his second arrest his bail bondsman a guy named david wells like the pitcher what he said to him he said to nate quote you know you fucked up right and uh this wells said quote he said i know that uh about
Starting point is 02:03:52 newton he said don't even give don't even get me out just let me start doing my time now he said he knew he was fucked uh wells said quote that's when the light that's when the light went on that's when he got it now now just now. Just now. After a second giant weed bust. It's not good. It's a little late. It's a little bit late. Now, his silver-haired, middle-aged white man, Shapiro here, Howard Shapiro, not Robert, not OJ's lawyer.
Starting point is 02:04:13 No. He got a different one. He's like, well, shit, I mean. Shapiro. OJ had Shapiro. You know what? He's cheaper then. Right.
Starting point is 02:04:20 He's cheaper then. We're going to walk in and be like, this is my lawyer, Shapiro. And the judge is going to be like, is that OJ's guy? Is that O oj's guy i think that might be oj's guy be like they both jewish man that's cool like i said you know he's related hey he's not a whore so that's a plus he's a jewish non-whore so i think he's gonna be a good lawyer for me uh he said that uh this howard shapiro said he was representing nate in the louisiana case and with the sexual assault thing, too. He said that he hadn't been contacted by Newton yet. And he said, quote, I don't know why I'm not hearing from him.
Starting point is 02:04:51 I've represented him in everything he's ever been involved in before. All of his shit, his dog fighting. I have no reason not to believe I'm not representing him now. So he said that he's not quite sure how the arrest would affect him. The lawyer said quote i don't even want to speculate on this how it'll affect his louisiana case uh he said an initial reaction is that it would probably have an adverse effect you think yeah you think another huge drug bust would have an adverse effect against the one i feel like two of the same crime
Starting point is 02:05:18 might might look bad possible yeah uh so there's a reconsider now they want bail now now they want a bond yeah and there's a reconsideration they want bail now now they want a bond yeah and there's a reconsideration of bond hearing and his lawyer filed a supplement stating character witnesses including but not limited to jerry jones emmett smith troy acheman and michael irvin would testify on his behalf and co-sign for his bond they'll all be wearing matching rings they'll all be wearing matching rings and walk out together to go find some whores. So, well, not Troy Aikman, according to Skip Bayless, the fucking scumbag Skip Bayless. That's another one, you piece of garbage asshole.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Troy Aikman shouldn't have sued him. He should have beat the shit out of him. That would have been the... Just Frank Sinatra'd him, found him in a fucking restaurant, walked up, yanked him out of his chair by his fucking shirt collar and pummeled him right in the restaurant. Smacked him silly. Said, next time, keep my fucking name out of your mouth, Skip, you frosty-haired dildo, and walked out the fucking door. Where's my eye mechanic?
Starting point is 02:06:13 Where is it? So, yeah, Newton, but they deny him bail, even with Emmett Smith willing to sign for it. He says he will plead not guilty and ask for a jury trial. His lawyer said quote this is a beatable case not because he's an icon but because he was not involved in drug trafficking. There's no fingerprints, no tape conversation
Starting point is 02:06:36 no overt actions. Doesn't have to be because you had it. All that other stuff is for when you're up in the drug organization and you're big enough to where you don't handle drugs. Like on The Wire, they can't get Stringer Bell or Avon walking around with cocaine on them. They hopefully can get them talking on the phone about a big deal that they can link them to. They're not going to have it on them.
Starting point is 02:06:58 That's the point. He had it on him. 175 pounds. You don't need recordings. He's holding it. Fuck you. You can't even say, I didn't know it was there no you could smell that from a mile i don't care how well you package 175 pounds of weed you're gonna smell that shit from the next county i had a couple of pounds on me a couple of times it's impossible to not smell that it's so smelly in a 175 pounds in pounds in a van. That's a lot. That's a lot of weed.
Starting point is 02:07:25 Jesus. He in court. He characterizes his client, Nate, here as, quote, a gentle giant who poses no danger or threat of fleeing. They said that he would agree to wear electronic monitoring. He'd do home confinement. He'd do super intense daily supervision, whatever they wanted. intense daily supervision whatever they wanted uh and uh the judge said that newton quote did not present sufficient evidence to overcome presumption that he's a flight risk or a danger to the community no sir back in fucking jail dickhead so uh the prosecutor said quote we
Starting point is 02:07:56 filed a motion to revoke his bond in our jurisdiction as well the louisiana people so he'll be fucked over there too so in case he does get out on bond here he's going there uh his arrest in texas has had an impact here it demonstrates to us that mr newton is a pretty big dope dealer now why that's the question everyone said why are you doing this stupid you're an nfl player get your head out of your fucking ass figure out a better way to make money you're not just a you're not your brother you're not an unknown you're a member of the cow you're a very well-known player he was on arliss in 96 yeah that's true he's that known where he was on a tv show as himself and his agent should have negotiated with that fucking deli to get a dollar per every fucking sandwich they sell 50 cents a sandwich something yeah it
Starting point is 02:08:38 was his fucking name on it now he says quote i had blown a lot of money from football but i wasn't broke drugs drug transporting just seemed too good to pass up. That's what we all say. It's just too good to pass up. He said, he said, it didn't seem, as I said, does it seem like easy money? He said, quote, it didn't seem like easy money. It was easy money. He said, I'm, this is great.
Starting point is 02:09:00 This is his, this is his reasoning. I've always been competitive. I've always been in sports. I couldn't see myself not being the biggest dope man, too. What the fuck? He's like, I gotta sell the most weed. You know, I'm competitive. Treating it like fucking Girl Scout cooking.
Starting point is 02:09:13 Yeah, that's what he is. Like, hey, man. Gotta sell the most boxes. We gotta sell more Samoas. That fucking other one has us beat. He says, weird thing is, I don't even like pot. It just makes me hungry. If I smoked out, i'd weigh 800 pounds
Starting point is 02:09:25 but at the same time i was going to hell full speed that's just the way i do things all the way if i was a killer i'd take them all out everybody not just one or two oh my so yeah nate uh he said that he made about 75 000 per drug run per weed run here. He'd get 75, that's not bad. He's making dough. Yeah, 75 grand in profit. You know, you do that once a month or twice a month, you got something fucking cooking there. That's a football salary now. You know, 10 times a year, that's
Starting point is 02:09:56 $750 a year. That's a football salary. That's plenty. And that's tax-free here too. So that's no agent taking 10%. No lawyer taking any money out of you. This does lose him a job here uh he was supposed to be uh do a cowboys falcons game there uh and the commentating commentating and they were trying him out as a color man and they said uh the other brad sham the play-by-play guy said quote we were using a different ex-cowboy as a guest analyst on every game and nate was going to join us for the cowboys atlanta falcons game coming up that sunday since he lived near
Starting point is 02:10:29 atlanta early in the week i got a call asking me if i had a new analyst yet nate's timing for getting arrested was not too good yeah it's pretty bad not great now michael ervin has the balls to say this quote hopefully god can save him fuck you this is a guy who i believe was probably uh just getting off of probation for drug charges himself for coke charges hopefully god can save him if he saved me he can save him oh he is really talking about god i thought he sounded like some whore named god no yes some whore they nicknamed god yeah some more but she's actually a nun yeah but she's a woman so obviously she's a whore who we call god you know how that works april 2002 is court he ends up changing his mind and pleads guilty he's facing up to 20 years whoa so they go
Starting point is 02:11:18 maybe you should plead guilty and make a deal here because you don't have a little less let's get a little less here pleads guilty to federal drug trafficking charge which is rough here under the terms of this agreement he pleads guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess with the intent to distribute marijuana the other charges aiding and abetting to possess and distribute will be dropped they said they said newton will probably with time served they're expecting him to get about 30 months that's what his lawyer says uh his lawyer says quote he really did feel he wanted to do the right thing by pleading guilty he has great remorse for what happens he should just feel stupid but it's no remorse he didn't hurt anybody he's also fucking weed born in the wrong time i mean yes now he could open up a
Starting point is 02:11:59 dispensary and he'd be fine but i mean you can't call women whores now that's the other thing he's born in the wrong era one way or the other yeah you couldn't just be like you't call women whores now that's the other thing he's born in the wrong era one way or the other yeah you couldn't just be like you know all the whores you know just all the you know that works that wouldn't fly now he also said that the louisiana case is still active and they're hoping to get that cleared up and get him serving the time there concurrently with this time and make it all one thing basically uh so he avoided a possible 20 year sentence and a one million dollar fine which was also on the table that's tough uh that's tough he uh uh calp deon sanders was a character witness during sentencing he came in and deon
Starting point is 02:12:37 that guy talking for you that's what you want him coming in like a fucking mouthpiece chains on ridiculous suits with the shit that he says yeah how you doing all right there god fuck did he tell you about the whores all right no i don't want that guy's mouth open talking about me i'll lose more money with him talking than donald trump he's just yeah yeah no shit the two of them thank god fucking mouth thank god dion doesn't talk about the stock market or trade partners we'd really be fucked unbelievable deon says quote he's exhausted himself financially the game has a funny way of chewing you up and spitting you out yeah they tried to get sympathy for him so the sentencing is august of 2002 you sir may fuck off 32 months
Starting point is 02:13:18 in prison and a 20 uh 25 000 fine uh he said while he was listening to his sentence, 32 months, he said that he knew he had to change everything. He said, quote, they don't play around at that joint, the state prison. I slept on a concrete slab in a cell with 40 dudes, one toilet. I don't even like to think about that place. He said, but why he made the deal, he said, I got down on my knees and I said, God, I want to make a deal. You protect me in here. And when I come out I said, God, I want to make a deal. You protect me in here.
Starting point is 02:13:45 And when I come out, I'll do everything I can to make it right. So he's finding God now. And 39 dudes in the cell said, shut the fuck up. Shut up, motherfucker. I'm trying to take a shit and jerk off at the same time. I don't know why you'd want to do that. But I figure you're in prison. There's somebody doing that.
Starting point is 02:14:02 There's somebody shitting and jerking off and throwing both of the results at somebody. I would have gone with product. Yeah. But results so much better. I like product. So much more disgusting. It's really gross. You're right.
Starting point is 02:14:20 That it is. It's definitely gross. As long as he's not using one to do the other. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So, Jesus. that it is it's definitely as long as he's not using one to do the other oh no oh boy god so jesus he said in prison he hoarded cigarettes to trade them for twinkies yeah because he needs twinkies he said he would stand up for himself when he needed to because he's gigantic right uh he said that celebrity didn't mean didn't help him any in there he would not accept guests he said that he disassociated himself
Starting point is 02:14:45 from members of his family when he was involved. He said the less they knew, the less they would be, whatever. Don't let him see me like this. Yeah, he said he was like that when he was doing the drug thing, too. He said he discouraged his kids from coming. He turned down meetings with Barry Switzer
Starting point is 02:15:00 and Deion Sanders, told them not to come. There's people shitting and jerking off in here, you guys. Yo, man, don't be. Yo, don't bring the kids. It's fucking disgusting. Yo, it's disgusting. They asked him if there was a low point in prison, and he said there wasn't no low point. I mean, I didn't have fun in there, but I wasn't going to die either.
Starting point is 02:15:16 See, people think you have to reach a low point and want to jump off a cliff or stab yourself or something. But I wasn't going to go there, brother. That's not what they mean. That's not what they mean. I's not what they mean at all. They don't mean, did you want to kill yourself? No. Did you fucking open your eyes and go, Jesus, this is rock bottom. This sucks.
Starting point is 02:15:30 That's what they want to know. This is the worst my life has ever been. Right. Because I'm in prison. The worst your life has ever been doesn't have to be the borderline of the end. That's the thing. It can just be, this is enough. This sucks.
Starting point is 02:15:42 Right. Yeah, that's fine. When is enough enough, Nate? When is enough enough? God damn it, Nate. With french fries and Twinkies and everything else. November of 2004, he's released from prison. And they said, what have you learned in prison?
Starting point is 02:15:54 And he said, quote, I ain't learned nothing but one thing. I know damn well I ain't coming back. You know why? I find prison full of a bunch of whining, sorry, crybaby ass men who made a bad decision and now they don't want to live up to it and don't want to accept responsibility for it. Yeah, I made a mistake and sold 213 pounds of weed. And then guess what? I made the same mistake again, less than two months later.
Starting point is 02:16:18 Five weeks, actually. Come on, man. We don't have to deal in that foolishness. He's saying, take responsibility for your fucking actions. And he gets out of prison responsible, loving the Lord, fat, feeling fat, feeling big, feeling good. Doesn't know what to do with himself, though, because he doesn't have a goddamn job now. Because before he was selling fucking weed. So now what's he going to do?
Starting point is 02:16:44 And he's got $25,000 in debt to the state. He's got all his debt to the state. Lawyer bills piling up, I'm sure, to get him out of that. Probably a federal drug trafficking charge. That costs a couple of fucking bucks there. He doesn't know what to do with himself. He sold his home. He's in a smaller place.
Starting point is 02:17:00 He doesn't know what to do. And then finally his prayers are answered. There's a knock at the door and it's Vince McMahon, CEO and chairman of WWE and he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? Look at you, you
Starting point is 02:17:23 big, fat, beautiful bastard. Ah, look at you. Oh, my goodness. Here, hold on a second. Take your shirt off. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of time. Let it all fall out, Nate.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Butter it up for me. That's what I'm talking about. Now, let's try on these overalls. Your man breasts are leaking out of the side. That's not going to work. You know what we're going to do? Oh, I know. We're going to keep you shirtless.
Starting point is 02:17:49 We're going to make you like Kamala. We're going to paint shit on your stomach. You don't speak any English. You're from the jungles of Africa. How's that? We're going to do it. No. Bobby Colorado's not happy with you.
Starting point is 02:18:00 He's been trying to keep him outside. You tell him to stay away from my fucking dogs. That motherfucker. I'll get in there away from my fucking dogs, motherfucker. I'll get in there and kick his fucking balls in. Will you calm down? We got a first wrestling match. This guy with the dog. You versus Bobby Colorado and all of his dogs. It'll be you.
Starting point is 02:18:17 It's a revenge match. They're going to maul you, rip you, limb from limb. Poof. In a cloud of independent contractor forms and 1099s and cloud of 1099s he's gone cobra insurance aflac duck wandered by he's like what here? Let's go. Vince is very confused here. Jesus. Vince, you cheap fuck. You cheap son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Oh, that's beautiful, man. So, 2004, he's out of jail. And what does he do? His life's in shambles. He gets married. Let's break every fucking rule. Junior, finding God in jail, moving home, getting married. He's doing it all, everybody.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Who the fuck is willing? Michelle Murphy, a woman he met at a nightclub shortly before he went to prison. Hey, baby, I'm about to go to prison for drug trafficking. You want to hang out? What the fuck kind of come online is that? Wow. I'm going to be in the wwe soon uh 2005 big old fluff piece uh dallasblog.com big fat one big fat juicy fucking jizz covered shit smeared fluff piece oh man he said that uh for 12 years this is they're talking about his old style of life and he says old lifestyle i guess would be a better way of saying that he says what the
Starting point is 02:19:50 fuck is wrong with me i made a word for that stroke there yeah they made a whole word for it's one word it goes together there's a condom brand and everything style yeah that works you know what that is yeah it's a specific thing if only there was a specific word to address that that would be terrific. He says, for 12 years, I've lived on two and a half hours sleep. That's the way I rolled. Butt naked, booty humping. What?
Starting point is 02:20:13 Two and a half hours of sleep because all night long he was butt naked, booty humping. That's why? Butt naked, booty bumping. Booty bumping? Booty bumping. Okay. Butt naked, booty bumping. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 02:20:24 I think it means fucking. In prison? I hope not. 12 years now? No, that means his NFL career. That's as long as he was in there. Butt naked. Butt naked, booty bumping.
Starting point is 02:20:33 Okay. All right, then. Yeah, he said that he was a regional coordinator for some football camp. He said he has a good relationship with his ex-wife now, who says they have like a brother-sister relationship. He has a good relationship with his ex-wife now who says they have like a brother sister relationship. She said he never apologized for how bad he was to her, but she thinks he understands that he was wrong now. And he did provide me with a story. And I have a book because of it.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Yeah. His kid here, Trey, is actually a star running back at a national power high school. Oh, yeah. And he's coming up really, really well. Now, Nate talks to the Tulane football team at this time. And he says, look at me and learn from my mistakes. Take control now or lose control later. I like it.
Starting point is 02:21:14 So he's into that. He gets a job with kids at one point here. No, I don't like that. Seems like he'd be good with kids, though. Yeah, but unless they have some weed. What fucking parent is saying, go talk to this dog fighter. This guy's been's been in prison he's been in prison go talk to him hardened he said quote i've said to myself i've lived all these years without god i flipped not one but two uh but three or four cars we're talking high dollar cars the only way i could have gotten through all this was because of his grace and he's even saying grace for me. So thought about it.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Here I am coming out of prison. I got nothing. Then all of a sudden I got a job. He says, you know what, God? I'm going to give you a try. I'm going to ride with you. As he said, he gave it a try, floated a prayer, and it worked. So he's on fucking board now.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Yeah. Okay. September 2006. His son is rushed for over a thousand yards as a sophomore in high school. And his team won the state title. And they're just talking about he says that he gets tons of mail. Texas, Texas
Starting point is 02:22:14 A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Iowa State are all... I was going to say tail. He gets a lot of tail. Tons of tail. Whores everywhere. He says a lot of tail. Tons of tail. Whores everywhere. He says, right now, this early, I'm keeping my eyes open to everybody.
Starting point is 02:22:32 He's a sophomore in high school, and he's just bombarded here. I haven't started thinking about visits yet. I just may stay home this fall and see if anything happens and see what I get from people. So, yeah, in three games, he had 335 rushing touchdowns and 335 yards and two touchdowns there. November 2010, Nate loses a shitload of weight. Really? He comes out, loses 180 pounds in six months. That is a lot.
Starting point is 02:22:56 That's a shitload of weight. He has the same size. He had surgery. Otherwise, it's 30 pounds a month. That would be impossible to do. That's moving. That is really moving here. So he had surgery, vertical gastric bypass, whatever the fuck it is.
Starting point is 02:23:13 You know what I'm saying here. He had his fucking stomach closed shut here. Gastric bypass. This is like the gastric sleeve, which is like a stapling. Brutal. 75% of his stomach was removed in one of these operations here. They said that his surgeon said that losing that much weight that fast isn't the norm, but he says, quote, this is his doctor, it's not just the operation.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Nate has been making really amazing, has been really amazing in regards to the lifestyle changes he's been able to make. So Nate's done a lot here. November 2010, his son trey is playing running back for the for texas longhorns a huge major college uh he decides he's quitting football due to multiple concussions he's already he's had he's a running back he's already had so many concussions and uh most kids a lot of kids push anyway anyway. I guess Nate and Dorothy both told him to stop. Nate said, hey, it ain't fucking worth it.
Starting point is 02:24:09 No, it's not. Because Nate's done with football. Now my life is my life. He told him football only lasts so long and don't ruin your whole life over it. Have you watched football with me every Thanksgiving? Look at fucking Troy Aikman's face. Well, I mean, as you dodged rib bones and fucking turkey legs and shit as they shrapnel flew from my mouth.
Starting point is 02:24:29 So he quits due to multiple concussions there. So he has another son, King, who's also plays college football for a smaller school as well. So, I mean, I mean, Christ, his son's concussed, came up without, you know, we'll talk about some of the things he went through with his mom and his dad and all this shit. Dorothy's been through the fucking ringer. Dorothy has been through the goddamn ringer. All the whores of Dallas. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:24:52 I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy, but not nearly as bad as I feel. Oh, for Christ's sake, it's so deep. Nate Newton, a pipeline welder at Dean Certified Welding in Sacramento. deep nate newton a pipeline welder at dean certified welding in sacramento nate newton northeast university finance and political science student here in the greater boston area he says he's a driven northeastern university student pursuing a bs in political science and finance look at you i dig whores man i dig whores nate newton who's a rapper a white teenage rapper from little rock arkansas put the fucking mic down and go to fucking school. He says he's 16 years old.
Starting point is 02:25:28 Oh, Jesus. And he's surprised he's unsigned. Yeah. So you can find him. He's on Instagram and Snapchat. You can find that guy. Nate Newton, department manager at Fry's Electronics. Yep.
Starting point is 02:25:39 And that's the worst job ever. So you must really suck if I feel bad for this guy here. And finally, Nateate noon a bassist in the hardcore punk band converge he's also played in a bunch of other bands he's like a well-known like euro metal bassist uh poor bastard looks nothing like nate or he loves cocaine and weed that's um he might uh 2014 more fluff from Sports Illustrated. How can you say anything nice about him at this point? Oh, my God. Austin Murphy.
Starting point is 02:26:08 We'll ask him. He knows because he wrote the fucking thing. He got snowed. He got snowed. He's talking about that. He's too young. He doesn't even know. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Maybe he's 12. We don't know. He's a child blogger. ESPN blogger. That's how it works. He said they're talking about how nate has mentored high schoolers in dallas and he spent several days doing all this shit uh basically that you know what a good what a good fucking guy he is he says quote i was a wild man when i die brother the world's
Starting point is 02:26:38 gonna be mad at me because i took everything it had to offer but now he's real calm and everything's fine and all this shit so while this fluff piece is going on dorothy keeps talking her shit and she says on an si interview that the cowboys had to have known about nate's domestic violence they that they knew about it and looked the other way uh she said that they're doing the same thing with greg hardy because this was after they signed greg hardy she said they knew about my shit and they didn't say shit. Now they don't care about Greg Hardy. They're signing him. She said that from her book,
Starting point is 02:27:11 she said that she was exhausted from taking care of the baby, but if she refused him sex, it meant an argument. She said once or twice, he'd grab me and shove me against the wall to tell me, you know, whatever. She she said i put the car in gear to back out and in a split seconds nate's split second nate's fist crashed into the windshield shattering it on the driver's side uh she said
Starting point is 02:27:36 one night nate grabbed me by the hair and pulled me all around the house uh she said she came home at one point and uh she wanted to leave him and this was after a friend of hers went to the Cowboys and told them about the abuse. Because Dorothy had told them. And they did nothing except it did get back to Nate that someone said something. So they did nothing to help her. But Nate found out about it. Yeah. So I guess she got home and she wanted to leave him.
Starting point is 02:28:05 And she said Nate was waiting for her and shouted, what the fuck are you doing at her? And she said she sat down at the table and she was ready for him to yell at her. And then she said she saw a rifle on the counter. So she said Nate yelled again and then grabbed the table and shoved it at her. She was pregnant at this point in time, by the way. grabbed the table and shoved it at her she was pregnant at this point in time by the way and the thick glass uh tabletop broke away from the table and hit her in the stomach which scared her obviously uh she said that uh she called she said you're sick nathaniel you're sick and he because he always introduced himself as nathaniel to her which is creepy uh she said that he took the rifle
Starting point is 02:28:42 and pointed it at her head uh pointed it between her eyes and said i'm going to kill you held it in place and then shifted it a few inches to the right and pulled the trigger and shot out their kitchen window get the fuck out of here right next to her head yeah buzzed her with a bullet and broke their kitchen window now uh she said that uh she fell down and started screaming and nate ran outside now by the way outside waiting for his mother is little trey little trey was in the car dorothy had come from her friend's house with little trey and said wait out here until i come get you and he just shot and he just shot and the kid was near the kitchen window outside trying to see what was going on
Starting point is 02:29:22 so he shot in the direction of where his son was outside like a fucking idiot so uh yeah it's it's disturbing yeah uh when they ask him about this he says quote he doesn't deny it but he doesn't accept response he said listen he says quote a lot of times i would come home in a bad condition mentally and physically but nobody ever deserves that i don't care what you do i look back man and i ask how big of a coward can you be i had to be pray i had to do a lot of praying about that okay yeah fine but you still did that shit uh you know fuck man what a terrible fucking thing to say about that too that's all that's i had to pray about i had to pray about almost shooting a fucking shooting my my mother and my children. And almost hit his kid by accident, too.
Starting point is 02:30:09 She said, Dorothy, that's when he came home and was extremely violent. Probably the worst violence I've ever experienced. That's when he came home and shoved a custom-made kitchen table into my pregnant stomach. That was that whole thing. She said, I believe the Cowboys organization. I believe they knew that I was verbally abused i believe they knew i was emotionally abused i never shared the enormity of the physical abuse and then her friend alerted them and that's when this whole thing went down yeah because they that was when they found out she said uh uh i'm very disappointed disheartened
Starting point is 02:30:39 and discouraged about what's happening with greg hardy at the time so uh also august of 2014 remember josh brent the running back who fucking killed a teammate on the cowboys drunk driving no oh yeah yeah uh he uh he intoxication on manslaughter charges he killed teammate jerry brown jr in december 2012 michael irvin and nate newton are going to advise him they're going to be his big brothers a mentor team that's that team? That's the squad. Wow. Idiot one, idiot two, and the whore guy. What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:31:09 Jesus Christ. Ridiculous. Who the hell co-signed? Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones, exactly. Nate says, all you can do is give him support and try to direct him in the right way. Let him know what he's doing. Let him know what he's doing is a great thing and you can only benefit him and the cowboys alike.
Starting point is 02:31:29 I'm a realist, man. Don't get caught up in we love you get caught up and i've got a second chance do i love myself that's you gotta love how about yeah fucking killed your teammates stupid jesus christ how do you responsibility that's what i'm saying man uh so august 2015 here. He hosts the in September of 2015 at the Ferguson Auditorium at the campus of Texas A&M University and Commerce. He is for the Recovery Month Celebration Committee, Department of Psychology, Counseling and Special Education here. They welcome guest speaker Nate Newton. Recovery Month promotes the societal benefits of prevention, treatment, and recovery for mental and substance use disorders, celebrates people in recovery, lauds contributions and treatment and service providers, and promotes the message that recovery in all forms is possible. That's what they're doing here, and they're bringing in Nate Newton to talk about it.
Starting point is 02:32:23 2016, he gets into politics a little bit oh don't do that uh no not running just talking about the election he says now he was in the usfl mind you so remember the judgment and all that he says quote all i'm going to say is if you all vote for donald trump for president then the world is wrecked he said but because that's who wrecked the usfl i love a man who can go out and be broke five times and come back and be as rich or better the next time, but he ruined us. The league should have still been around. The USFL should have never gone defunct.
Starting point is 02:32:52 This shouldn't be something that would spring into the NFL if they had worked this right. Ain't no way in the world I'd vote for this dude. All he got me was $3. $3 on a lawsuit? Come on, Donald. He said all that? He said all that.
Starting point is 02:33:06 In a tweet? No, in an interview. Oh, okay. And Doug Flutie said the same thing. Doug Flutie said he's very reckless. I wouldn't let that guy run anything that I... He said the same thing as I played for him. Well, I mean, without that, well, maybe they would still be in the NFL.
Starting point is 02:33:20 It's just funny. They may have still been in the NFL. Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, Flutie would have been somewhere. They would have caught on somewhere, maybe. Now, net worth of Nate at this point, CelebrityNetWorth.com, which we all know is bullshit.
Starting point is 02:33:33 Which is a bunch of horseshit. They say I have $20 million, and that's, wow. Oh, God, I wish. You wouldn't be hearing the sound of my voice if I had $20 million. They think followers on Twitter are each worth a dollar.
Starting point is 02:33:43 Yeah, they're all a dollar. No, they're all worth $10. No, they're all worth $1 no they're all ten dollars they're all the thousand dollars what the fuck are they talking about 250 grand is what they have him listed at so they're dead wrong so they're wrong he might not have anything probably yeah well uh can't get enough of nate no well follow him on twitter he is not verified no uh nope at 61 At 61 Nate Newton. Unverified. He follows 14 people. He has 13.6 thousand followers. That's not a bad.
Starting point is 02:34:10 That's pretty impressive for a guy that hasn't been relevant in fucking 15 years. And he's only liked nine things. Really? Nine likes and 5,000 tweets, though. So he's a tweet and son of a bitch. Tweets a lot. Also, why not rent Nate Newton? Bring him on in.
Starting point is 02:34:24 He can call you all a horde right to your face uh athlete promotions.com you can get they have them listed under christian athletes football celebrities uh their uh corporate appearances speaking engagements autograph signings endorsements meet and greets and keynote speeches call for booking fee yeah so there call for your booking fee. And that's Nate Newton. Yeah. And his horror parade. Speaking of Christian athletes, by the way, I have to talk about Tim Tebow for a minute.
Starting point is 02:34:52 Yeah. That was a great little segue there. I have to talk about this shit. Tim, I'll make it quick. I know the episode's running long here. But Tim Tebow recently said that he doesn't think that college athletes should be paid for any sort of anything, including endorsements. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Not even money from a college. Of course not. Endorsement money that is based on their worth because people are buying it based on them. What would that do? Yeah. Why would that benefit them? Who would that benefit? Maybe kids who need the money.
Starting point is 02:35:21 He went on to say, when I was was in college i had one of the top selling jerseys in the world and i didn't mind that i wasn't getting any money yeah motherfucker because you knew the second you got out of college you could go around every fucking mega church in the country and speak for enormous fucking fees you knew that was coming you knew you could do any fucking thing you want because you're a well-spoken quarterback handsome fucking dude some of these people don't have that some of them are lucky to get to this college they know they're not there for fucking four years to get an education they're trying to play fucking football they're trying to support
Starting point is 02:35:52 their families and help they're not allowed to fucking sell their own image they're not allowed to sell their own autograph oh they can't take their own hand and write their own name on a piece of fucking paper not Not if it benefits them. And give that to another human being who's willing to pay for that. How is that American? I'm sorry, I don't know where you're listening from, but in America, that's not American. Capitalism.
Starting point is 02:36:14 It's not even, that's un-American. The whole point of, the whole fucking system is you can sell, we sell each other shit. We sell wares. You can sell anything you fucking want that's of you to someone else who's willing to buy it. That's the value of it. That's what our whole fucking system is based on, except if you're a college athlete. Then you're worth fucking nothing.
Starting point is 02:36:34 They put this shit. Coaches get paid. This is what's bullshit. Coaches, it's not like everybody's doing it for the love of the game. Coaches get paid exorbitant $10 million salaries, plus radio shows and mansions near campus. All these fucking perks. All the perks, the fucking tee times and jets and shit they do. Oh, private jets.
Starting point is 02:36:54 They get their asses kicked by the alumni. All of this is a bullshit front to not have to pay benefits to them as employees because if they're on the field they make the wwe look fucking generous because seriously at least the wrestlers are acknowledged as actually working for them not maybe in an independent way but at least according to the ncaa college athletes are just carefree students who are having like a romp around the park haphazard children same as the kids who are playing fucking uh playing frisbee in the quad same exact thing they just happen to be getting together with kids from other different schools
Starting point is 02:37:29 in a good spirited game of fun that happens to net these schools billions of fucking dollars that's the problem if a math scholar who's there on scholarship gets a job with some firm to do some outside work not only are they allowed to do that, the college fucking brags about it and touts them as, look what you can do here. Look at how great our fucking program is. It's prestige. But not this shit.
Starting point is 02:37:53 I can't believe the autograph thing is fucking ridiculous. Anybody, dude, if you sell anything of that kid, they can, they, they, they kicked out.
Starting point is 02:38:03 It's ridiculous. You lose your scholarship. It happens all the time. All the time. It's one out. It's ridiculous. You can lose your scholarship. It happens all the time. All the time. It's one thing if it's a threadbare thing where no one's making a dime. Everyone's going around playing on fields with rocks on them and sitting in metal stands and 300 people are showing up and it's like minor league baseball. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:18 That would be one thing. But this is a very multi-billion dollar business. These schools build $100 dollar gyms on their camp 100 million dollar athletic facilities and give the kids give them a stadium shit nothing and give them not a fucking dime and don't give me they get an education bullshit what's an education worth wholesale this is fucking america let's talk about let's talk about real dollars and cents not what's that worth if retail. What does that cost to school? Don't tell me what the loan is for the average college kid.
Starting point is 02:38:49 Tell me what that kid that comes out of that college for playing football for you, what's that thing worth? I get a drink at McDonald's costs a buck. What does it cost McDonald's? A fucking cent and a half. That's my point. It costs the school nothing. So don't fucking tell me a chair is worth this guy having brain damage for the rest of his fucking life. And he's not allowed to collect a dime off of it.
Starting point is 02:39:07 And if he does, he's treated like a fucking criminal. It's ridiculous. I hate hyperbole. Okay. It discredits everything. Things aren't equivocal. No. You can't say anyone's Hitler.
Starting point is 02:39:18 No. Because it cheapens whatever you're saying. Unless they're Jim Kelly. Unless they're Jim Kelly. Then obviously they're Hitler. It cheapens whatever you're saying. Unless they're Jim Kelly. Unless they're Jim Kelly.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Then obviously they're Hitler. But I hate it when people call people Hitler because Hitler is a very... It's the worst. It's huge. You can't... Yeah. You have to say, yeah, you've done A and B. Now you have to do five more alphabets worth of shit to be Hitler. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:39:37 It's one of those fucking things. Slavery is another one. It's insulting to people who actually had to fucking be under slavery to equate that that said what do you call a million dollar or multi-billion dollar a year business that uses completely unpaid labor to perform the duties essential to making that business said billions of dollars a year if there was one name for that what would you call that? Walmart? Yeah. Or slavery. Or goddamn slavery. Or Hitler. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:06 No, yes. It's Hitler's slavery. Hitler's slavery. Fuck you, NCAA. Fuck the NFL for entering into this unholy, un-American, horse shit fucking agreement. And most of all, fuck you, Tim Tebow, you overprivileged Uncle Tom motherfucker. That's right. I fucking said that. You are.
Starting point is 02:40:26 Fuck you. You're selling out these fucking kids that come after you. You could be a voice that could turn opinions on with people just in America to help these kids out with a little bit. And instead, you fucking carry the ball for the other side for the shit side. Go fuck yourself. You son of a bitch asshole thank you okay i don't believe you were a virgin that's no and you weren't a virgin you fucked mad dudes and you know it
Starting point is 02:40:53 not like a lot like mad dudes mad dudes you held them down and did it and yeah gunpoint with eric williams while they were very mad. That's crime and sports, everybody. That is Nate Newton and Tim Tebow and all that shit. Thank you for joining us. That's a crazy goddamn story. Whores and wildness there. Men in service whores.
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