Crime in Sports - #180 - Sprinkle Some Cocaine On That Child - The Uncontrollableness of BJ Penn

Episode Date: October 15, 2019

This week, we explore what it's like to be prodigy, become a champion, and blow it all due to stupidity, and lack of temperament. This guy is no stranger to unsanctioned bar brawls, as well as championship UFC fights. No one seems safe when he's on the warpath, bouncers, friends, children, his girlfriend, uniformed police, it simply doesn't matter to the man who seems to have gotten more chances than anyone in UFC history. He's a mess, and only getting worse. It's BJ Penn!! Have a fight club down at the beach, never back down from a fight, and don't take a police uniform too seriously with BJ Penn!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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My name is James Petrigallo, I'm here with my co-host. I think I'm Jimmy Wissman. Are you sure about that? I don't know. We're not positive of who we are. We literally just got off of a plane. Just a little back story. We were in Pittsburgh.

We did a show in Pittsburgh on Thursday. Thursday night? It was Thursday night. Of 98? It seems like so long ago. Just a little back story. We were in Pittsburgh. We did a show in Pittsburgh on Thursday. Thursday night? It was Thursday night. Of 98? It seems like so long ago. No, 2002. Seems like forever ago. Then we drove the next day from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia, which they will tell you

it's anywhere from a four to a six hour drive. And it's really like seven and a half hours, especially if you miss an exit and have to go. Pennsylvania has nowhere to turn around around there's no u-turn we had to drive like 30 miles back to pittsburgh to make a u-turn it was insane we stopped to get a drink and getting back on the turnpike i saw james's finger point at the exit as i drove past it i was late on the on the draw too i'm not gonna lie it lie. I was panicked. I was like, somebody's behind me. It was bad.

I can't go. I should have just done it. Well, then we did a show in there, and then we drove to Washington, D.C. We did a show last night in Washington, D.C. Like 12 hours ago, we were shaking people's hands. Less than. James. Yeah.

That's like eight hours ago. That's crazy. We got on a plane. We got off the plane. We all drove. We were on's like eight hours ago. That's crazy. We got, we got on a plane. We'd got off the plane. We all drove. We are in the same flight coming home. We all drove to my house and here we are recording. So this is no sleep.

None. I, we were, went to the airport at four 30 in the morning. Yeah. So, uh, this is,

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Speaking of punchy here, now that we're punchy today oh boy are we I almost speaking of punchy here who is now starting the show proper a very very grown man almost got the back of his head punched into oblivion on a delta flight from Salt Lake City to Phoenix today seat back and wouldn't put it up and it was the end I'm kicking it and punching it go put your seat up we're landing he goes I will I go do it she said to do it and i'm just slapping the back of i'm hitting it with my palm palm striking the back of his seat just trying to fucking make it so uncomfortable for him he's looking at me with his hands out can you believe this i'm like one person on the whole flight in front of me every fucking time so then we get then finally the flight attendant comes and i'm like

point and she goes oh thank you and she like fucking shoves she presses the button shoved his ass through elbow and take that you bastard like yeah so he pressed the button and sat forward and it didn't move and he sat back and like looked at her like good right and she's like no i'm like thank you now I watched it like bounce when it locked in. Now I don't have to punch him until my knuckles are broken. With a smile, she goes, there you go.

She was the best. Delta, you have some great flight attendants. She did it with so much passive aggression. It was a plum. She did it with a plum and a certain Elan that you don't see very often in a flight attendant. Now you're uncomfortable. There we go.

There you go, big guy. Now your back hurts like everybody else. Oh, I love it. Okay. Now that we got that out of our system, let's do this. Let's get to our man of the hour or the couple hours here. Let's do this. It is BJ Penn.

Oh, I know him very well. The MMA fighter. He's been around doing a lot of stuff for the last 15 years and been in the news lately, too, this year and everything. The least athletic-looking MMA fighter in history. Yes. Well, let's talk. He's got a weird story. He's an interesting cat, let's just say here.

He's got some issues, I would say. He's an interesting cat, let's just say here. He's got some issues, I would say. His actual name is J, not the letter J, J-A-Y, second name D-D-E-E. No. Penn, third. Oh, what? The third.

Two other dickheads? What? No, there's more than that, Jimmy. That's the thing. This is another junior level that we're reaching this week. I'll explain it in a minute of how this happened, but this is a junior another junior level that we're reaching this week i'll explain it in a minute of how this happened but this is worse than otis jr nixon jr this is worse than that jd penn his name is jd penn the third okay that's his actual name but he goes by bj which makes no reason there's a reason it's a stupid reason but there's a reason it has nothing

to do with it's silly uh nickname the prodig Yeah. That's what they always push him as. Born on December 13th, 1978. Five foot nine. When he fights, he's five nine, about a buck forty five. He's not that big. No, he's a middling guy there in the weight division in 145. He is the third of four sons. Okay. There's four kids.

He's the third. Now, his family has money. That's the thing. Really? They do well. Oh well oh yeah he comes from a pretty affluent family they're they're like a prominent family his mother uh is of korean descent she's born in oahu and uh she comes from uh she's also a successful businesswoman and her family was successful as well she does pretty well i believe she once ran for hawaii county council at one point shit like that so they're kind of society people too you know they're not like uh they're not like kind of like uh you know new money dirt bag types as they would you know like as society people would look down on people like they have

new money i swore he wore like some sort of necklace into the ring a couple of times probably he's all sorts of hawaiian pacific islanders yeah of necklace into the ring a couple of times, too. Probably. He's all sorts of Hawaiian. Pacific Islander shit. Yeah, he's into the Hawaiian shit completely. He grows up in Hawaii, as we'll talk about here. He was born in Hawaii, actually, BJ was. His father's name is J.D. Penn. Same as his.

He's Irish, his father is. Not from Ireland, but an Irish guy from America. Just your average dude from Boston pretty much yeah it's just that's his that's his dad and then his mother is is Korean and uh that sort of thing now they call his father who's J.D. Penn they call him Pops uh he apparently uh moved from uh this is some good info from a Honolulu magazine article from back in the day I don't know where the fuck I found that but yeah some of this stuff comes from uh they moved from i guess the father moved from uh hawaii to hawaii from kansas really in the mid 70s which is quite the move yeah that's an

that's an awesome move yeah imagine i mean no offense kansas but you look out the window you see what it looks like you're not hawaii yeah look at look at a google search hawaii image right now and go oh that's and then hold that up to your window put your phone in your window next to uh wichita yeah put your phone in your window and then look at that and then focus out focus in focus out you go oh jesus wow yeah this is really upgraded it's an upgrade here uh now uh he was in v, and he came back to Kansas, and then in the mid-70s, he decides to move to Hawaii. So they ended up, they have a big plantation house down there. That's like-

In Hawaii? In Hawaii. Yeah. So if you own any kind of property down there, it's, even back then, exceedingly expensive in Hawaii. It's not easy to do. There's limited space. It's a fucking island.

When they run out of space, that's it. They're out. Yeah. unless you want to float that's you fucking figure out a way to make shit float once you build your own fucking island yeah that's all which i saw some news thing of some guy some lunatic collects plastic bottles and puts them in big garbage bags and made himself an island somewhere like a goddamn maniac what the hell he made himself an island somewhere, like a goddamn maniac. What the hell? He made himself an island. There's thousands and hundreds of thousands of plastic bottles that he's collected in his garbage bags,

and then he uses those to float, and then he puts pallets on those and plywood and made a fucking island. He's got this weird island in the house. What he made is a boat. He made a shitty boat. He made a boat that fifth graders would make if they wanted it. Hey, we can get to the middle of a pond this way. The thing about made a boat that, like, you know, fifth graders would make if they wanted.

Hey, we can get to the middle of a pond this way. The thing about an island is that it doesn't float. Yeah. It's attached to the earth down there somehow. That's a good point. And this is his second island. His first island was lost in a windstorm. So as few islands are.

Hurricane Andrew comes through. Few islands are hurricane andrew comes through few islands are broken up by wind that's the thing i mean they might be you know trees will go down and stuff like that but they won't just be broken apart volcanic rock tends to hold up pretty well just anything even just sand it just works so not in wind what a dipshit so yeah they uh they it's uh this place i guess they were by helo bay down there and uh big big house big property you know he grew up in a nice he's a have he's a have he's a very have now his nickname is bj which is a shortened version of baby j which is what they called him because jesus christ okay he's the third brother okay this is so stupid he's the third brother. Okay.

This is so stupid. He's the third brother. He's also the third brother with the same name. No. They named all the first three boys J.D. Penn. That is awful. So he's actually the fourth J.D. Penn. Yeah.

He's actually the fourth, but his dad's J.D. Penn, and then his oldest brother's J.D. Penn, the first, I suppose, and then there's the second and then the third. That's stupid. I don't know how the fuck that works. Well, what about you, sir? You're not even giving yourself any credit. So J.D. Penn Jr., J.D. Penn II, and then J.D. Penn III, and then they named the fourth

brother Reagan. He was born in the 80s, and I feel like the dude was probably- Also, dad realized that he was being really dumb. That's enough. How many more? This is stupid. You're not George Foreman, dummy. Why are we doing this?

This is fucking stupid. If you're the heavyweight champion of the world, if you fought Muhammad Ali, if you did all of these things and sold 50 million fucking grills to stupid people who thought they worked well. Go nuts. You know what? Name your kids whatever you want. You're a weird eccentric guy.

He's got a lot of money and you're famous and all that. I don't know who this guy is. He's an Irish guy from Kansas. I don't know who he is. You fought in Vietnam. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that's fine. That's got a lot of money and you're famous and all that. I don't know who this guy is. He's an Irish guy from Kansas. I don't know who he is. You fought in Vietnam. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that's fine. That's all you did.

Salute you. That's a big deal. A lot of people did. Thank you for doing that. The other thing, that doesn't give you the right to be an idiot. Neither does being the heavyweight champion of the world. But it's one of those things where you go, all right, he's a weirdo. I understand it.

He's been punched in the head a bunch of times. Who knows what the hell he's thinking. I'll name everybody George. Muhammad Ali beat him up for like, you know's easier to not forget that's all it is so yeah that's crazy so i don't know why he did that also baby jay is his nickname and he looks like an overgrown baby yeah so baby huey i would yeah baby h i'd call him. VH. VH. So BJ is baby J, and he's actually JD. This is so stupid. Yeah, name. Very dumb thing.

And in order to, they said they named them, gave them each a nickname, quote, in order to avoid confusion. Yeah. How about give them different names? How about give them real fucking names? Give everyone a different one, you won't be confused at all. You should have gave one Steve, Todd, George. Hey.

Done. Bill, who knows? Anything. Zero confusion. No, none. That won't be confused at all. You should have gave one Steve, Todd, George. Hey. Done. Bill, Lara, who knows? Anything. Zero confusion. No. None. That's Tom and that's Bill. I know who the fuck these people are.

These are all JDs. Oh, wow. But one, yeah, one is J and one goes by JD and then he goes by baby J. That's to avoid confusion, even though they all have the word J in them. Right. He got J and JD and then he's like, ah, I give up. Yeah. I've exhausted both of your names, son.

Yeah. At least little Reagan didn't have to be J.D. Penn IV, though. That's awful. Jesus. So, yeah. Spelled out. Yeah. J.D.

Oh, my God. It's so weird. It's just a, I don't know what the hell was going on there. So when you come from that kind of weirdness, bad things are... Sure. It happens. Look at this. That's why we have the show.

We've explained the junior process. You started your life with confusion. Yeah, he took it to another level. He's got three juniors that he made. I don't care. You can name them. Second, third, Baby J, this one, that one, Tom, Bill. These fucking juniors.

He has a bunch of juniors that he made uh now uh by 1995 he's 17 years old uh he said he'd basically just like to hang out and fight he said he just uh just like just like to scrap all the time like he was a just like to fight he said for everyone all the kids he knew and everyone around it was everybody just liked a street fight that was just like a almost like a sport yeah it was fun yeah you go out and you get in fights and you you know i mean that's that happens yeah i i went through that phase and as a teenager so you're on an island there's only so much things you can do yeah i guess you get bored i don't know it doesn't matter when's the last time you slept jim it's fine english isn't going to come out properly

here for any of us so uh he said you know it was just fun and it was a way to get your aggression out and shit like that now uh where he grew up is not a rich area but his family had money so like most of his friends are not wealthy they're you know there's kind of street kids the way to do it yeah they're kind of street kids and then he's he's you know comes from the edge of the neighborhood there with a nice big house and has everything and but still hangs out and but at the end of the night he gets to go home to a nice house yeah yeah and then you know fix his wounds there right he's also kind of the uh uh the one that just the privilege is beautiful there that's fantastic oh god go run with the thugs and then sleep in a

queen-size bed that's pretty good shit when you're a kid. Yeah, it's not bad. Apparently, this town had a bunch of basically two big giant apartment complexes that were kind of the equivalent of projects, basically. You don't need much credit to rent there and shit like that. Very cheap rents and also kind of shitty conditions making them cheap rents. So if you didn't have a lot of money, that's the only place you could live. And so it was kind of a tough area there. You know what I mean?

So his brother Reagan, who's his youngest brother, his only younger brother, I guess, he said, quote, there was always somebody on the street ready to try and take your bike when you were riding home. So it was that kind of thing. He always had to fight. That's why fighting was a way of life, because, you know, if every time you go out, somebody tries to take your bike, you got riding home so it was that kind of thing you always had to fight that's why fighting was a way of life because you know if every time you go out somebody tries to take your bike you gotta fight for it also they probably have the nicer bikes i'm sure yeah like oh shit yeah they got a nice that's a dino that's the other thing um also a lot of uh a lot of drugs in the area which i mean it's the 90s in hawaii there's a lot of drugs they had like a bodega

that was you know a drug, like a secret drug spot, kind of like on the wire with, uh, nevermind, forget it. Guy. They tried to make tell on Omar, but he took back his,

nevermind. It makes sense. Fucking watch it anyway. So, uh, yeah, they said that, uh,

uh, they used to, uh, you know, like their friends were doing a lot of stupid shit. There was, um, you know,

just a lot of, a lot of like squatters and, and, and not like like his friends but like the neighborhood had a lot of squatters a lot of drug addicts and things like that that would you know squat in vacant houses and then his friends would run around and do stupid shit uh basically they had a lot of like on sundays they said was mainly when they would be brawling yeah and fighting for some reason i don't know why sunday was day. Let's get together. I guess, I don't know if NFL isn't popular there or what. Well, probably not.

There was no team. Yeah, there's no team there. I mean, once, I guess, if Hawaii plays on Saturday, what else is there to do? So, yeah, they used to basically have almost like a fight club on Sundays, they said, where kids would gather knowing they were going to fight. Bare knuckle? MMA kind of fight? Just fighting.

Just punching. Street fighting. You run into some kids, you start fighting with them. Oh, boy. You know, that's how it works there. He went to Hilo High School and other Hilo High School. I found out I was looking for different people that went there. And it's a bunch of politicians.

Really? That's all. It's a bunch of politicians that nobody gives a shit about like hawaiian politicians or yeah yeah a bunch of politicians and dj and bj penn that's the only people that went there pretty much or jd penn sorry yeah you're right my bad uh he said he liked to hang out at the beach after high school when he got out of high school just want to hang out at the beach and there was girls everywhere and you know it's the beach in hawaii yeah it's hard to that's the thing i would imagine in an environment like that it'd be very hard to be motivated why would you want to go anywhere it's great you could do minimal shit and your life is still

hanging out at the beach which is what people some people like strive their whole life to work and save and scrimp to move there someday to see the as close as they can yeah people do that shit but like this you're just hanging out that's that's a jerry seinfeld always said that you can't be funny at the beach no it's a thing that he's always said he goes he can't he can't write good jokes at the beach it's just there's no environment it's just so calm and happy and cool how do you where's your edge right you know he's like you'd be angry yeah he's like like living in new york's a great place to live to write jokes you're right everybody's close and there's traffic he's like if living in New York's a great place to live to write jokes. Everybody's close and there's traffic.

He's like, if you're at the beach. And the beach is there you don't want to go to. If you live in La Jolla, how the hell are you going to be funny? Why are you mad? There's seals. You're like, hey, listen, man. The sunset's coming soon. That's not funny.

No. That's just not funny. It doesn't work. Also, the other part about Hawaii, though, is that you picture it in your mind and you see beaches everywhere yeah because it's a fucking island it should be 365 degrees of the shit yeah but no but jungles 365 it's it's 360 yeah there's 365 days in a year that's why i did that you have a bunch of numbers floating in your head that you pick them out and plug them in i just go there's the number there it is you're like an old-time operator you're sticking things out hold on let me plug in holes let me connect you to long island 3145 there we go well the thing about hawaii is that there's not a lot of beaches that are that are usable

a lot of them are rock cliffs yeah just jungle right that's a lot of that shit and you gotta you gotta pick and choose where you're gonna go to this beach and then a lot of them most of them probably all of them are are pretty much inhabited. You have private beaches, too. And there's that. Where people own their own waterfront there. Now, so he's just kind of rudderless, hanging out at the beach. This isn't sustainable.

No. Hanging out at the beach, trying to pick up girls street fighting on Sundays. Oh, Jesus. That seems silly, you know, this sort of thing. So, finally, a guy named Tom Callis moves in down the street. Now, Callis is a martial arts guy. He was training for his fifth degree black belt at the time for, I guess, Brazilian jiu-jitsu. And his first day in town, he puts up a bunch of flyers for students that he wants to teach.

Because he's obviously a fifth degree black belt gonna he can teach kids something yeah incredible guy so uh and so you know at the time too i mean this is 1995 1996 brazilian brazilian jiu-jitsu isn't nobody knew what the fuck that was in america or anywhere like ufc then was tough man contest basically it was just like mixing weight class dudes with mullets and we're going out there. Yeah, it was mixing weight classes, mixing stiletto. I wonder what would happen if a wrestling guy got in the ring with a boxing guy. Crazy.

Let's see it. We'll put a karate guy in with a fucking this guy. Give it a shot. Hey, yeah. It's like, let's put an alligator and a python together. We'll see who wins. Like, you know, see what fighting stance and style is the best one. That's what it is.

And that's not even what it is. No, it was just. That makes no fucking sense. And those usually are ugly fights. Yeah. When you're at the clashing, you want kind of similar. You want them to be very similar. I mean, it can be fun.

Yeah. If you got a guy who's a ground guy and one guy who's just, oh, if he hits him once or if he grabs him. But that's the thing about it, too, is that those usually ended with the guy that fucking bashed usually yeah well yeah or the guy that could finesse the shit out of it yeah it's the thing yeah if you could lock somebody up in a hold it seems like you could take them down but if one punch with those little gloves will knock somebody out then that's another problem as we've said the what a weird fucking thing it's a weird thing so uh, yeah. So, BJ, I guess, when he was younger, I guess, or not BJ, his dad, the other JD, JD1, Pops here, they called him.

I guess he did some karate as a younger kid. So, he kind of thought that it was a good thing for maybe if his kids got involved with it because they have no discipline and they're fuck-ups, basically. They're winging it. And he's like, maybe if we get them in a structure and focus this they like to fight on the street maybe if we focus some of this energy in the right direction channel it to money making this could be or just he just wanted uh like discipline he wanted them to have some discipline and have some you know control over themselves and kind of have some respect for the world got it you know that sort of thing so

uh his the father called this tom callous and said all my kids want to do this shit so uh and i guess the weird thing is that they met at one point uh because i guess tom the tom callous one of the buildings of the place he was using as a instructional deal dojo or whatever the fuck you want to call it uh It's one of Papa Penn's properties. So, yeah, they own a bunch of property. So he rents it to him. So he would know even without flyers. That's the thing.

Yeah, they met and then he saw the flyer, too. He's like, oh, all right, here we go. So they arrange a meeting here. And so BJ gets in this first class and Callis said he fucked around with him and tapped him out a bunch of times just to show him that people can fuck you up if they know what they're doing, basically, which is a daunting thing. If you mess around with somebody who really knows how to fight, it's frightening how there's people that are very scary out there that can really fuck you up bad really bad in numerous ways yeah like if you ever like uh somebody who's like a really good boxer and i'm not even talking like a professional champion just somebody that somebody that boxed a couple years at gold gloves when they were a teenager somebody's done it just fuck around with that you'll be like what the shit

was that it's night and day you're like whoa that is a different game or somebody that you know knows what they're doing and grappling or anything. They're going to just twist you in pretzels. You can't, you know. It's like going up and holding a baseball bat. I can hit a ball with this. And then somebody throw it 92 miles an hour. And you go, holy shit.

I can't hit that. I can't hit that. Yeah, I have a bat. I mean, I can swing it. But this is a great way also of selling what you're selling. Because if you show somebody, you want to do that? Yeah. You want to do that?

And that's what it was. I can show you. that's what it was show you that's what it was and uh he said so uh he you know this was kind of a humbling experience he was used to being a badass on the street and this guy's just fucking around with him and he's like an older guy he's not he's not some tough street kid right he's some like man who's like a you know normal street man yeah he's just he's not even a street man he's just a some looks like a dad and he's just fucking you up he's that in those white nikes with the blue swoosh you're thinking you're a badass street dude and he's just twisting you in pretzels and making you cry or whatever he feels like it and some chico's uh yeah that's it perfect that's hawaii

what the hell so uh yeah this uh bj said of this time quote back then i had no clue i do i did jiu-jitsu because it was fun and i was good at it i thought it could gain me some status and respect i just wanted to own helo so he never had any real aspirations uh tom callis says about him that we're talking about the guy who uh took him in here the instructor he says quote one day i was too tired to grapple with bj remember i was 37 and he was 17 and so i suggested that we slap box a little bit well at that time i had already been studying the martial arts for more than 25 years i was no stranger to fighting and i had way better than average hand speed so we took our stances and boom before i knew it, BJ had hit me three or four times in the face. I remember getting real wide eyed and well,

not angry, but determined to teach him a lesson. So I started after him, which only gave him another opportunity to hit me a few more times before I could react. It was really humiliating. I left the workout that day thinking I was just too old and washed up to be doing this kind of thing with a bunch of kids.

Of course, now that he's clearly recognized as one of the best fighters in the world, I don't feel so bad. This was when he was at his peak. He said, BJ's dad used to come to me every so often and say, you know, BJ's going to be the best fighter in the world.

And he said that he'd heard that thing from 500 other dads, and he would just say, oh, you think so? Yeah, right. And he goes, well, he actually was on to something here, this guy. So I guess there was no other Brazilian jiu-jitsu classes there except for his. think so yeah right and he goes well he actually was on to something here this guy uh so i guess there was no other brazilian jiu-jitsu classes there except for his so uh you know that that's that was the mecca of it for there uh and uh callous says quotes uh quote of course i'm honored

to have played a part i'll be a small one in bj's career they're really pumping him up this is going to be good uh so he was saying how kind of as it progressed into the 2000s he said that Hilo has become in Hawaii the place for martial arts and all that sort of thing. And so you know, he's happy. He feels like he contributed to that

pushing BJ along. So I guess that he really took to it super fast BJ. So fast that that's people in the gym here called him the prodigy because he was very good, very fast. Now it makes sense. He picked it up faster than anybody else, basically. He said that before a year was up, Tom said he had taught him all he knew, basically, and said you got to move on to somebody else if you want to learn other shit. So he hooks him up with Ralph Gracie, who was one of the Gracies, as we know.

Yeah. We've done a Gracie. Yeah. We've done a Gracie. Yeah. I know. So, yeah. So that sends him to California to be with him.

to be with him. Also his brother Reagan and at this point his younger brother Reagan, BJ's and a number of all their friends started taking all the classes with Tom too because they all wanted to do that. And I guess BJ, they said,

BJ became Tom's fifth degree black belt test training partner. I guess that was a big deal. I don't know. Whatever. I'm not sure. So he says, the callous also says, I'm going to guess that I've tapped out BJ Penn more

than anyone in the world. So as a joke, he's saying that, obviously. So, yeah, at one point here, BJ arranges for, or BJ's father, JD, one. Single it. Old school, what do you want to call him um og fucking jd og jd uh arranges or that's the best i could think of arranges for bj to uh live near the gracie's training academy in california and train there. So apparently two years it took BJ to earn his black belt from there, which is normally a five to eight year process. He did it in two.

He did it in two years. So yeah, that's why he picked it up fast. He didn't mind the contact. He wasn't afraid of fighting. I mean, maybe that helps. I don't know. Yeah, they said. So he picked it up very, very, very fast.

He competed in 2000 in rio de janeiro uh here uh and uh he became the first non-brazilian to win the the brazilian jiu-jitsu world championships black belt division wow so that's not bad uh they tried to get him to turn pro right away but at this point in 2000 ish the ufc still. Right. Still not what it is today. No, it's not. Now it's considered a major thing. Right. It's bigger than boxing. Right.

You know, so it's, I don't know how, but it's bigger than. It makes more money. It makes more money. It's fucking bigger than boxing. People pay attention to that shit. Well, they allow you to have personality. Yeah, well, boxing, you can have as much personality as you want. They just don't pick the guys that have it.

It's not produced. Well, they don't pick. They pick the guys who fight the best. That's what makes me. That's why I always question UFC's fucking reality. And I'm not saying all of the fight. I've said it a hundred times. And I think there's a lot of some of that shit is workmanship.

It's fucking worked. I just think it has to be. I just think it's it's fucking wrestling, especially the way it's like it's not like the way it's on TV. And then we have the ultimate fighter things it's just too easy to just say oh but if we just did this we'd make it so much better that's how wrestling got started at first they fucking actually wrestled then they went well why are we beating the shit out of each other we could do this every night in different towns if we just pretended and did the shit that we would do for much longer. And then we could make the fights more exciting.

And then after that, if we could make it a draw or something, we could get people to come and fucking see it again. Have a storyboard of somebody to win. Yes. And in boxing, they did the same shit for, you know, it was a lot, very crooked for a long time. And I don't see how it's 100% on the up and up with UFC. I know some people disagree

i don't give a fuck it's just there's there's too much opportunity not to be we don't it just seems yeah i just i i don't believe in the good nature of humans put it that especially when large sums of money are involved i just can't imagine huge huge sums of piles of money i just it's just have you seen the houses that conor mcgregor airbnbs and yeah they're insane it's crazy and it wouldn't have to would only have to be three people that know about it that's all and then conor mcgregor's got a giant house i assume one of these pissed off fighters would blow up the spot at one point but i i there's got to be some other way there's got to be some way to work it that's all i'm saying so it happened it's got it's got to be

so uh he said though he wasn't really interested in it at that point because it wasn't as big as it is now he was just like i don't know what i'm doing here is better you know yeah so he wanted to open a school in helo that was his plan he's like that's better than we say helo is it h-i-l-e-a-u no h-i-l-o oh it is helo yeah i i was no i was figuring it was like hello way or something no no no h-i-l-o oh it is hilo yeah i i was no i was figuring it was like hilauea or something no no h-i-l-o really yeah just hilo that's where he's from that's where he's from yeah or elo or elo i don't know i'm calling it hilo because i don't know any better it looks good if i mispronounced it i don't know the fuck i'm never gonna go to hawaii so don't yell at me i don't

care it's too far i hate that fucking at this point i'm not traveling anywhere ever again on a plane for six hours again i don't care where it's where it is. I don't care if it's to the, you know, a fountain of youth. I'm not going there. That's too far. Let's just hang out at home. Yeah. So he says, quote, I got my black belt in 2000.

That was my college and my diploma. I just wanted to teach and travel. Others tried to push me saying I was a great natural fighter but mma wasn't one of my goals so understandable here uh you could see that uh he has a good run though through the late 90s here in 1998 he got a uh in 2000 is when he won the world championships there uh the uh placing first in the black belt division uh in 1999 when he was only 20 years old at that point uh he was third and he got a bronze medal there and then in 1998 he was a silver so for three years he was really strong there and uh but they at that point they thought that he might have had the fastest

legitimate black belt of anybody that was out there really yeah the that they said so that so it made him like kind of a legend. Yeah, and then in this arena, in UFC, they really wanted a guy like that, and he's got a nickname, and holy shit, this is going to be great. Caught lightning in a bottle. That's right.

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well actual shit open mic or goes over some notes on a pad oh god that was a nightmare if you don't know the story we used to jimmy used to run this terrible open mic no goes over some notes on a pad oh god that was a nightmare if you don't know the story we used to jimmy used to run this terrible open mic no i didn't you did not well it was my it was my responsibility but i never fucking went i was gonna say this is a this is a i pawned that shit off on you accidentally i didn't want it you didn't no you didn't show up so you're i was like well i'll do it i guess if you're not gonna be it's it's it's much like the show ended up developing so i'm fucking around but yeah there was this open mic that jimmy technically

ran yeah and uh in the bar at the same time on the other side of the bar they would have like ghetto fucking horrible yeah like on the street ufc bar, they would have ghetto fucking... Horrible. Yeah, like on the street, UFC fights in the parking lot. Not UFC, but MMA fights. Very shady, organized. There's a dude in the corner counting money, but nobody can see it. It was a cockfight with people. That's all it was. It was people cockfighting.

And these guys would be screaming and bashing their head on concrete walls to get ready for it. And we're like, we're trying to tell jokes over here. And when they wandered into the room, not good senses of humor on these gentlemen ever. They're never funny. And they never think it's funny when you make fun of them, which is not cool. I guess that's why they learn to fight. Right. Because they go out there.

That's their sense of humor. They have no comeback for being made fun of. It's usually somebody getting choked out. I got to learn how to punch better right this is annoying and then the place was on the news because it didn't have doctors on hand that was amazing yeah they just had fights in a parking lot with no doctors people could have been dead no problem shut down oh jesus so uh may 4th 2001 is ufc 31 oh yeah. That was so long. So early.

Locked and loaded is the name of this one. It's at the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. Long bankrupt, I'm sure. I'm sure that's been repossessed 12 times over like the rest of the fucking casinos you had down there. Versus Joey Gilbert, who's a two and three career fighter. This is the end of round one. Four minutes fighter. This is the end of round one. Four minutes, 57 seconds, the end of round one.

It's a TKO, BJ's first win. And there won't be a lot of stats in this one. He didn't fight a million fights or anything like that, so don't worry. Some people bitch about stats. It's like we have to set the stage. So I'm trying to do it. You don't know what they did. And let's be also realistic about this, too.

We're trying to, if someone's a hardcore sports fan, let's say last week was Doc Gooden, which was a fucking crazy episode if you haven't heard it, listened to it. But last week's Doc Gooden. So let's say you're a really big baseball fan and a really big, maybe a Mets fan or whatever. You want to hear some stats. You like to hear shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. I forgot his ERA was that low that year.

You like that stuff. And then some people are like, i'm just bored by the stats and it's like i don't know what to do with that because it's we can't be all things to all people so we have to tell you who they are and what they've done to make it matter why they fucked up or how they fucked up otherwise it's just some idiot right otherwise it's a guy that like me that worked in electricity and now he's in jail. But what did he do there? Yeah, that's why.

How did he get to jail? Why do we care? What does it matter? We care because he didn't fucking have to. Exactly. That's the thing. He had money. Other options.

That's just another way to make a living or whatever. So he's 1-0 there. June 29, 2001, UFC 32, showdown in the Meadowlands. Oh, boy. The Continental Airways. Remember Continental Airlines? Yeah. Holy shit. Are they gone? They're gone. there june 29 2001 ufc 32 showdown in the meadowlands oh boy the continental airways remember continental airlines yeah holy shit are they gone there go well there's like three airlines it's long gone yeah long gone united i think it's probably united it looks like it looked that logo looks like they incorporated it i'm not yeah yeah i'm not sure uh he fights

din thomas whose nickname is dineroero, of course. Well done. Nice pun. Nice job. This is a 26-9 career fighter. So this isn't some new guy. They're giving him somebody to fight right away. And BJ wins this one, too. A TKO in round one at 242 with punches and knees.

So fucks him up good. 2-0, November 2nd 2001 they uh skipped some time there around september yeah uh didn't probably didn't hold many events this is ufc 34 um high voltage very creative man this is at the mgm grand garden arena though in vegas they're stepping it up a little bit this is versus cowl cowl i guess is how you say it. C-A-O-L. Kaul. Is that Kaul? Uno. Is that Kaul?

No, Kaul would be C-O-A-L. Kaul? Kaul. This is stupid. Kaul Uno. Oh, okay. He's a 33 and 20 fighter. He's still active.

Really? He fought like three months ago. No kidding. He's still an active guy. Yeah, a lot of these guys, they fight forever. They do. They fight like a Vander Holyfield. They must be.

Well, it takes them a minute to retire because there's not a lot of money involved at that point. Yeah, I think that's the other thing. And at his level, we don't even know how to pronounce his fucking name. That's the thing. Because we've never heard of him. He's got 53 career fights at a high level. That's a lot of fights. That's a lot of fights.

And I've never heard of the fucking guy. Well, BJ barely heard of him, too, because BJ wins by knockout in 11 seconds with a punch. So he just says, how you doing? And knocks him out, basically. I don't know. That's a, wow, that's a shit way to go down. But that's the weird thing. When you're dealing with those tiny gloves, that's what could happen.

I've never seen that in boxing. An 11-second fight. Catch a one punch? Never happened. It's just never happened. I mean, Tyson did it once, didn't he? Not in 11 seconds. The guy would back away from him for at least the first 20 for christ's sake what's the fastest he did it 20 um

no i'm trying to think he did a couple spinks was 91 seconds really which that was spent michael spinks that was a huge fight too that was 91 seconds and i want to say i mean christ he had to have done it earlier you watch those first 20 20 fights. Yeah, some of those. He was fighting like skinny white dudes with mustaches. Right, to have like a union job. Blast him. Oh, clearly a guy. Absolutely. Who is like a union electrician during the day.

And he's like, I'm going to step in there. And when Tyson hits him, you see his puff of hair go up in the air. And then you go instantly regretting this. As he crumbled to the ground in a puddle. And you go, oh, that guy's not a. I feel like his first fight, the guy's name was like Greg. And puddle. Oh, that guy's not a... I feel like his first fight, the guy's name was Greg. And it was very obvious

that that guy was not a real fighter. A lot of his first 20 fights were guys like that. But those were the other guys in the rankings at the time. But he did take... I remember the one

where the guy with the mustache that was like push broom, looks like a little better in shape, Tom Selleck, got the living shit beat out of him. Oh, Jesus. But it took a little bit.

It took a round, or maybe two. Because he might have been a journeyman who knows how to survive, but then at some point you're overwhelmed. You're just going to be overwhelmed by Tyson's onslaught back in the day. If you're young and you're whatever,

or if you've forgotten, I've said this before, but we have a lot of new listeners, so if you haven't heard me say this multiple times go to youtube and look up mike tyson's first 20 fights and watch them watch them all it won't take very long yeah that's the thing this is an under a half hour clip you can do his first 20 fights you can do it on your lunch break and still get a sandwich just while you're waiting for your shit to be ready while they're making a subway sandwich you can practically watch his first 20 fights it's the most entertaining thing in the world it's a 17 18 year old kid coming out and just blowing people up with the most outlandish punches you've ever seen just fucking looks like looks like he's three times

stronger than everybody else it's just not even fair and he's a child and he's three times stronger than everybody else. It's just not even fair. And he's a child. And he's a child. A child pummeling grown-ass men. Yeah, that's what I mean. Just, wow. Bad, too. Hurting them. Shocking their heads don't come off.

They are hit so hard. That's what I mean. It's brutal. I mean, when you hit somebody and your fist goes inside them, all of that mass has to go somewhere else. Yeah, your organs spread out. It's got to go into your shoulders, into your chest cavity. He had a lot of nicknames.

The Dynamite Kid, Mike Tyson, they called him. I don't know why they stole that from the wrestler, but that. They called him Iron Mike Tyson. They called him all this shit. They also called him the Organ Spreader. The Spleen Splitter. The Spleen Splitter. The Pancreas Popper.

Liver Lacerator. I love it. I fucking love it. The lung lopper is here to get you. I love it. I fucking love it. Stomach stretcher. God damn it.

The appendix assassinator is here. Left hook, straight right. Kidney clobberer. Bring it, bitches. Unbelievable. That's amazing. It had to happen, though. With that much force, shit has to move around.

You'd see in these fights fights you'll see him knock people out with body shots yeah their face boxing glove on face they make he hits him and they go oh god and they just their legs go out i think he just broke all of everything i have in there i'm bleeding so i'm not sure but yeah i'm gonna shit blood tonight i do know that everything is leaking blood's gonna come out of a lot of different i better get a stretch i gotta go back to the dressing room here so january 11 2002 is ufc 35 throwdown oh oh he fights uh jens or yen's i don't know j-e-n-s i think it's yen's little evil pulver oh boy oh boy yeah 20 he's a 27-19 career fighter. He's been around forever. This goes all five, this fight. Majority decision loss for BJ.

Oh, no. So hands him his first loss, brings him to 3-1. May 10, 2002, he fights at UFC 37. He skipped one. High impact. Here he fights Paul Creighton, who's 3-1 in his career, and he won his first three fights so that tells you a lot right there this is he after this fight he says no i'm good no thanks

i think i quit i think i'm done now this is a tko with punches in round two yeah if you get pummeled good enough it'll make you lose your will make you think twice a lot of people if yeah a lot of people get knocked out or get not beaten bad they don't want to do it again it's just one of those things so four and one for bj uh september 27 2002 ufc 39 the warriors return these fucking names of these ufc they all sound like hair metal band albums it's that's yes it's like on unmade deaf leopard albums right that's what we... Uncharted territory. Hair metal, yeah. It's so stupid. Warren, Uncharted territory. Released in 92. What was this one?

Ultimate what? The Warriors Return. Yeah, that sounds like a rad album. Totally. Yeah. Round and round two, The Warriors Return. Jesus Christ. Fucking absurd.

Fucking delirious today. So this is against Matt matt the terror sarah oh matt sarah he's great he's a great fighter 11 and 7 career fighter uh here really 11 and 7 career i've seen him probably 18 times i think probably have it seems like this is right in the 2002 this is right when you were watching this shit. This is getting close to it. You would have seen all of his good fights. It was like 03 to 06 maybe. This is the beginning of his career here. This goes all three.

Again, this is a unanimous decision for BJ this time and brings him to five and one. February 28, 2003, UFC 41 onslaught, which again, metal album. Every one of them. Hair metal though. Skid Row, onslaught Yeah Which again Metal album Yeah That's such a Every one of them Hair metal though Yeah Skid Row Onslaught Yeah

Something like that No God no No It's not Metallica No There's no Sepultura This is goddamn

Slayer No no This is garbage This is garbage This is garbage rock This is perm rock This is good stuff here This is shit you can listen to

With your wife Yeah She's like He's so he's he's so cute well he he also looks like my friend debbie right i'm attracted to him anyway he looks like my friend debbie with a huge cock and it's out see it in his leather pants so they would wear leather pants to frame their cocks it's unbelievable have you ever seen like uh a journey video yeah with steve perry he puts his cock yeah on the thigh like on his thigh and he just stands Have you ever seen a Journey video with Steve Perry?

He puts his cock on his thigh and he just stands there with his tight pants. You're like, your cock is just on. The way he's moving. Take it out already. It would be less sexual if he just took it out and hung it out of his zipper. I can see the ring around your cock head yeah it's less aggressive just to dangle it from your zipper you're like maybe he has to pee that's weird down the it's weird and he like the rock back and forth as he's singing it's clearly to stroke it to make it harder and bigger a little pulsating and yeah you want a vein to pop you can see it yeah we want to you want to really be able to see

it go jesus let's die he fights cock well uno again cole or cowl or whatever the fuck his name is okay this goes all five again uh um which is interesting uh all five again and uh it's a draw yeah so uh the either he's got an extra number with Cole Cowell, it's either 11 seconds or 25 minutes. There's no in between with this fucking guy. They either fight all night or for right away to draw five, one and one. October 10th, 2003 is Rumble on the Rock for I don't know what the shit that is. You know, I've I've watched a lot of these and I don't remember them having names like this. This is fucking embarrassing. Yeah. I don't know this. I probably would have watched a lot of these, and I don't remember them having names like this. This is fucking embarrassing.

If I'd have known this, I probably wouldn't have been a part of it. I don't want any part of this. I would have shunned this whole operation. I'm not going to lie to you here. You want to come over? We're getting rumble on the rock. Yeah. Fuck no.

Absolutely not. That sounds like a shitty B-Wrestling League pay-per-view. They don't have TV, but they're going to try to run pay-per-view of this wrestling. We're going to get UFC 45. I'm coming by. But if it's got a fucking rumble on the rock... Four. And the fourth one. I want no part of this. It's a Hawaiian thing. It's in

Honolulu. He fights Takanori the Fireball Kid Gomi. Yeah, I know who that is. 36 and 15 record. He's very, very been around. That's a lot of words for a nickname. That's a lot. Yeah, the fireball kid.

But I mean, it's whatever. It's round three. In round three, BJ wins by submission with a rear naked choke. There. So January 31st, 2004 is UFC 46 Supernatural, which is the name of some album from the 90s. I'm positive. I don't remember which one, but it's something. I fucking know it. He fights

Matt Hughes, who's a 45-9 career fighter. God damn. And he's the most arrogant little fuck. I can't stand that dude. Really? Oh, Jesus. BJ's rear naked choked him in 4 minutes and 39 seconds. I'm sure I've seen that one. He probably cheered for that.

Yay. You don't like BJ Penn either, though. No, I don't like BJ Penn or Matt Hughes. Both of them suck. Maybe they'll knock each other out with headbutts. They're both just annoying because they just have so much fuck. I get it. You're a fighter and you're tough and that's what you're here for.

But the fucking arrogance. That's why I liked John fucking GSP. He's, I don't know how to say it. St. Pierre. Yes. What's the first name? George. It's George.

George. With an S. With an S. Yeah, yeah. He's in here a couple times. Of course he is, because he beat the shit out of this fucker, and I loved it. It was great, because I fucking hate BJ Penn. You're going to hate him even more when you hear how stupid he is.

He has that fucking belly roll. He's the most unathletic looking man next to uh chuck liddell and even chuck liddell was scary also tank abbott he was a fat fuck too bj bj that's that 90s he doesn't even look scary he's got a flat chest no it's not even a peck on the man yeah he doesn't look yeah he's one of those guys that somebody would take lightly on the street yeah because he doesn't look... Yeah, he's one of those guys that somebody would take lightly on the street because he doesn't look like shit. He's got a flat chest and a fat belly. They beat the living shit out of him.

They pummel you. Which that happens so many times in this episode. Pretty soon, it's just... We're almost done with fighting, don't worry. It's just going to be crime, and then once in a while, you're going to be like, oh, we had a fight here. You're going to be like, oh, shit, I forgot about that. I forgot he also fought here.

So he beats Matt Hughes here. May 22, 2004. K1 MMA Roman X. I don't know what the fuck that is. It's in the Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan. So it's Japanese shit. We've had a lot of stuff over there. He fights Dwayne Bang Ludwig.

Dwayne Ludwig. 21 and 14. That's a long way to fight a white guy. That's what I mean. Where's the fireball kid? Right. What the fuck's happening? Get somebody with four solo first names.

Somebody who drew Super Mario. Get him up there. So... I don't fucking know. Get a Yoshimoto. Fireball kid. Mario throws fight or not. You just made me think of...

So, round one. This is round one. A minute 45 submission with an arm triangle choke, which brings him to 8-1-1, BJ. November 20, 2004 is Rumble on the Rock 6, where he fights Rodrigo Gracie, who's one of the Gracies. 6-2 career record, 5-0 coming in, though. And this goes all three in a unanimous decision for BJ.

9-1-1. March 25, 2005, K-1 Heroes. Okay. It's in Japan again. He fights Lyoto the Dragon Machida. Now we're talking. That's what I'm talking about. And the dragon?

He invented Sonic. This guy's the fucking shit. Awesome. It was his idea to make him collect rings. Yeah. It was his idea to go Sega. Isn't that weird? Isn't that weird? That's how we're going to do it. Like that. Sega. It was his idea to go sega isn't that weird that's how we're gonna do it like that sega it's his idea i don't fucking know now we're just being racist for no reason i don't know where

the hell we've gone now this is terrible sorry uh leoto the dragon magita we're just i'm sorry we're very punchy and we're sure he could beat both of us up i'm sure he couldn't take it oh yeah and he could probably take it too yeah who knows or he's so brain damaged he won't know what the hell we're saying i thought i thought what i thought i drew fucking shit no i said sega damn it i'm the sega guy right oh fuck uh this goes all three unanimous decision and bj loses so he's 9-2-1 after that. Now, he has some problems right after this. May 9, 2005. 26 years old, old BJ is at this point. He is outside the Zanzibar nightclub in Hawaii here,

which is always going to... Whenever I say... Whenever I start something with, he's outside of this nightclub, you know the police involvement he doesn't have a fight that night no he doesn't well he might just not an organized one uh so he apparently they say he he punched oscar pa po a paoa pa paoa i can't these hawaiian names are hard i'm sorry i'm an italian guy from new york you know how far fucking new york is from hawaii

i'm having a hard time. I'm sorry. Hawaiian names, they start with a syllable, and then the rest is all vowels. Yeah, this is P-A-U-O-A. Yeah. Nope. Paua. I can't do it.

There's a lot of, you have to. Pa. Pa. Oscar P. Oscar Pa. Who's a 42-year-old uniformed police officer who was on special duty assignment at a party for the participants of Rumble on the Rock 7. So they had, like, you know, whatever, a party gathering, and they had all those guys there. Pre-party, I think.

So apparently he hit this guy. They said that the officer was hit in the face, and another officer had gone outside to break up. When another officer went outside to break up a fight, went to another location. They had to use pepper spray on the crowd. And they said BJ Penn was in the crowd and he hit Oscar P with a blindside punch to his left eye and then tried to run away. God damn it. And so this guy ran after BJ and tackled him. And so this guy ran after BJ and tackled him. And then he was a fucking a bunch of the people from the crowd jumped on the cop to pull him off of him because it was a bunch of BJ's friends.

So at that point, six patrol officers arrived to even the score, let's say. And they have clubs and guns and tasers and all sorts of shit. It's even. and tasers tasers all sorts of shit it's it's even uh heap they pull the men off of uh off of poor oscar p and they arrest uh they arrest bj on suspicion of assaulting law enforcement officer in the first degree which is a fucking felony yeah uh not good yeah this guy he's just hanging out outside the it was just one of the cops that they you know hire off-duty guys in uniform to stand outside took a swing at him oh hit him good and then the guy went after him tackled him then all of his friends started beating the shit out of him too uh so this is fucking ridiculous he faces up to five years

in jail for this because you can't punch cops you just can't it's not a good idea and he's lucky he didn't get fucking shot yeah it's the other thing that's what i was just saying yeah you're lucky you didn't get something worse than tackled if the cop knows that you're dangerous and you just punched him i i'm going for that gun fast or the club yeah if i'm chasing him i might be clubbing him in the knees to take him down or some shit or in the ribs at least back of the head yeah there you go fucker now let's we're gonna cuff you oh boy yeah no you can't you can't punch cops who are breaking up a fucking riot that's that's not I mean, it happens, but that's alcohol right there. Sober people don't do that generally, unless they're like arch criminals.

Normally, normal people, even if they're dicks, are like, well, you can't punch a cop. That's extra in trouble. You're in trouble extra for that. Bad guys usually punch cops in plain clothes, not knowing that they're cops. That's the thing. It's very rare that they actually punch the cop in a fucking uniform plus if you punch a cop in a uniform like if you punch a normal guy yeah chances are it's 50 50 that'll tell on you yeah he might just wander off and be fine that cop's definitely gonna tell on you you're that's he's gonna beat the shit out of you and arrest you and not even he's gonna like

eight of his friends are gonna beat the shit out of you and then arrest you also so you can't win that fight usually so uh yeah he feeds his bail set at twenty thousand dollars they had to take a cop away in the ambulance so that's how that worked uh the uh zanzibar hired these two uniformed officers to keep shit like this from happening there was uh apparently the officers were there to give the fighters privacy to keep because there's about 600 people in the club and so they were trying to give keep them separate from the fighters so they could have their own area and uh yeah they said they didn't have any problems until that happened obviously uh so they said that this basically turns into a big because it's on an island.

Shit spreads fast. It's like a small town on an island, even if there's a lot of people. That's the cop that got assaulted. That's what I mean. It's a big deal. And he's one of the more famous people from that area. He's on TV and he's in the UFC. He wants to own Hilo.

That's what I mean. And he kind of does. So his brother, who helps run the entertainment company that has the that promotes the fight that he's in the rumble on the rock that's why he's doing it because his brother promotes it uh he says quote it's definitely not good we're still investigating everything that happened well no shit uh so uh that was that that that's going to court and in july 25th two months later 2005 is the uh k K-1 World Grand Prix Hawaii, where he fights Renzo Gracie. So another goddamn Gracie.

14-7 career record for him. This goes all three again. Unanimous decision for BJ. Great. So 10-2-1 for old BJ here. March 4th, 2006, it's UFC 58 USA versus Canada. At least it's not a silly goddamn name this is where he fights St. Pierre

and he's a 26 and 2 career fighter that's a bad motherfucker he was the best pound for pound fighter in the world this goes all three rounds split decision too split decision loss for BJ so that's a pretty goddamn close that's as close as you get a split decision

you know going the distance. 10-3-1 for BJ at this point. Next he fights September 26, 2006 is UFC 63, Hughes versus Penn. So now he's a headliner here. He fights Matt Hughes again, the guy he fought before.

There's a TKO in the third round and the fight is stopped and BJ loses. So Hughes got him back in this one, 10-4-1. So, you know, he's kind of middling, and they're not doing great right now. May 15, 2007, he releases a book. Oh, what? He's got something to say?

He's got something to say. It's about MMA. It's not like it's a, you know. Not a life story? It's not like a biography of uh you know justice thurgood marshall or anything it's a it's a you know riches to eh no it's not even that it's mixed martial arts the book of knowledge it's about it's just about fighting and fighting styles and things he's learned yeah it's a straight like instructional okay not instructional

but like a book for people who want to learn martial arts and shit like that or MMA. June 23, 2007, UFC, the Ultimate Fighter 5 finale. He fights Pulver again. Jens, whatever the fuck his name is. This is a submission. Rear naked choke in round two. So he gets a win back here. 11-4-1 for BJ. So August 6, 2007, is court for his for the cop for the cop thing this has been

almost two years this is crazy uh he ends up pleading no contest to reduce charges uh from the assault on the police officer here this deal ensures that it's not a felony charge that he'll be convicted of okay original is a felony and that's a big deal yeah and uh will more than likely not have to serve any jail time when he's sentenced it's probably going to be a probationary thing or you know a fine and that sort of shit so he ends up pleading to a misdemeanor charge of third degree assault that's what he gets so not not bad for fucking sucker punching a uniform cop lucky that's pretty goddamn lucky uh january 19 2008 is ufc 80 rapid fire i don't know he fights

joe daddy stevenson that's a weird name i got kids call me daddy and i don't know what the hell's going on there 33 and 16 career fighter round two submission from a rear naked joke here uh 12 4 and 1 for bj he gets the win there then now we get may 24 2008 ufc 84 ill will oh what happened to the headlining fighters would be in the name of the thing he fights sean shirk who his nickname is the muscle shark yeah which is a what the muscle shark doesn't exist sean shirk the muscle sharkcle Shark. The Muscle Shark, Sean Shirk, or Sean the Muscle Shark Shirk. I know who Sean Shirk is. I didn't know that was his nickname, and I super hate him.

That's what's on his Sherdog profile. That is stupid. 36-4 career record for him. BJ beats him in the third round by TKO from punches and knees. He goes to 13-4-1 for BJ. October of 2008, BJ has a daughter. A daughter is born here. He ends up having

two, this is great, two daughters with the same woman. And he says that they never end up getting married because, quote, it doesn't matter that much in Hawaii. I don't know what the fuck that means so there's no like legal protections for your kids and your spouses if that doesn't exist in hawaii you don't care about uh

the bills and shit on the house if you die yeah so i mean it doesn't matter that much in hawaii necessarily the it's still the united states there's still law that governs it it's not the jungle island you know it's not fucking you know the middle of nowhere columbia there are people that there are reasons that people were protesting the supreme court because they wanted same-sex marriage it's because there's certain privileges that come along yeah that's why they want to get fucking married it's not that it's not just that big of a deal it's not just to take pictures for instagram yeah it's not just to take pictures for instagram it's for there's protections especially when you have kids or yeah i mean not that you have to get married but there's if you don't want

to get married because you have something against marriage that's fine but just to say it doesn't matter that much in hawaii is a weird way to it's just strange it's an interesting way of getting out it's just a yeah it's a man that doesn't want to marry her listen sweetheart it doesn't matter that much in hawaii it's like the dude uh christ years ago i can't remember one of the one of the uh it was a musician that said that uh he's not he he told his girlfriend that's been together for eight years he won't get married till gay marriage is legal for in the entire united states because he's going to stand in solidarity. I'm like, you're a sly motherfucker, aren't you? Yeah, he's very smart. That's a real way to look like a...

You're really taking one for the team, aren't you, big guy? Going hard for society. It's like, I'm sorry. Can't do it until they can. And he's like, fuck. Fuck. Shit. I'm a registered attire.

Ah, shit. All right, fine. January 31st, 2009. UFC 94, Stre versus pen too yes here we go uh round four this is a uh tko they call it it's a corner stoppage it says he doesn't come out after round four basically they keep them penn didn't yeah penn doesn't come out they keep him in the corner he's been it's enough he's had enough don't go back yeah he's 13 5 and 1 at this point and uh right now is when he kind of realizes that he unless he wants to have a real forgettable career he's got to redouble his efforts and uh stop fucking around he said he was cruising on natural talent and that wasn't uh good enough he wasn't training hard enough

and then he said finally quote i decided i didn't want to be another coulda woulda shoulda guy which makes sense uh he also says this is fucking so this is uh i think it's from that honolulu article it's a magazine article they this is such a fluff piece on him it's unbelievable he's talking about what a role model he is he says he takes his uh it takes a role model being a role model seriously he likes speaking to schools and children to model healthful eating he said he puts up meals uh videos of his meals on his website you punched a cop he did punch a uniform that's nothing there's way more he's already excluded from

speaking to my kid about how to be a respectful citizen oh i don't want to hear from him at all punched a fucking cop and you've been in the head plenty sucker punched a cop a uniformed guy mind you that's not cool oh boy so uh he shot a video of his teeth because he had no cavities at 31 years old it's pretty fucking amazing but i don't want to see it. I don't care. I'll take your word for it. You tell me I'm 31, I have no cavities, I'll be like, fucking awesome.

Pretty amazing. I don't need your dental. See the Giants game on Sunday? I don't know. It means nothing to me. I don't need your records. Yeah. So he also, he says that he's virtually the only one in the UFC to publicly condemn steroids. virtually the only one in the UFC to publicly condemn steroids.

He said that that sport, the testing's so flimsy at this point that he would say 90% of the competitors are on steroids, but not him. So, you know, that's why I lost a couple fights. Obviously, steroids, which I'm sure maybe that's true. And BJ does not look like he's taking runs. He's right. He does not look like it. He definitely doesn't look like it smooth chest oh yeah smooth chest

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uh, he kind of opens up a little school here for martial arts training. And, he, he basically lets kids who can't afford it come. So they have that. It's pretty cool. They have, uh, he basically lets kids who can't afford it come so they have that it's pretty cool they have uh he tries to give he says he gives lessons on quote respect focus education responsibility and other life lessons so like punching cops in a uniform uh so he says that he uh he this is when he launches bjpen.com which becomes a pretty big kind of site for MMA news.

That makes actually. Yeah. And it's pretty, pretty like prominent. Yeah, that does. I've seen that on on even on Facebook. Yeah, it's a it's a there's like an article about that BJ Penn dot com. Yeah, it's kind of it's not him. He's got a bunch of people.

Oh, it's a whole team. It's a whole big thing. So this is when he starts that and he's trying to he said he wanted to reach fans and martial arts students around the world. And he became like the kind of one of the primary sources for MMA news, which is interesting. Yeah, they talk about the his brother Reagan was overseeing that project at this point. And he says that this was after Reagan got his black belt. And they said that that CNN at one point in 2010 picked up there was a tsunami that threatened helo and they said cnn picked up the feed from his site which was

streaming live coverage of it from bj yeah so he got a kind of a big bump from that well hell yeah because you know he was covering news not him he wasn't out there with a fucking camera his people while he was jerking off somewhere so uh uh yeah it's uh one of uh basically the one of the one of the uh uh an older guy here an older one of the ufc uh or one of the old trainer guys here he says about him this is interesting bj penn is caught in the dichotomy of mixed martial arts he's in the ufc and they're going to market a very biased perception of him that's going to highlight his problems in the past we don't see nearly as how much uh nearly as much how he's trying to rectify that through his local programs he's like they're not fluffing him up enough right they kind of i guess they kind of marketed dj as a heel a little bit he was kind

of supposed to be the bad guy he certainly was that was kind of how they marketed him if they weren't if they weren't rigging it and and creating a storyline for him to do that he was certainly doing that on his own yeah just with the arrogance and dickish nature of his own personal oh they and that's what i'm by the way i'm when i'm saying rigging i don't mean you can rig personality shit all you want because i mean muhammad ali turned that shit on when he wanted to sell tickets that was what the fuck people did your showman that's what you do so uh that's fine if you want to pretend you're i don't care what you want to pretend you're like as long as the fights are legitimate whatever whatever was happening behind the scenes he was certainly tying it on pretty hard to yeah to make people not like him or he's

he's essentially the raiders yeah that was his role yeah uh they talk about how gentle he is in this article he's just such a gentle man. He doesn't even offer an aggressively firm handshake. They said it's a gentle clasp. They called it a gentle clasp? A gentle clasp. Quote, he doesn't need a bone-crushing squeeze to prove how tough he is. Oh, boy.

I had to put that line in there. We know. We've seen his chest. Ridiculous, yeah. So he says he wanted to kind of model his teaching after tom callis who taught him and all that sort of shit so august 8 2009 ufc 101 declaration yeah another stupid name he fights kenny flory a kenny florian whose nickname is ken flow no which makes me want to fight him i don't give a shit, too. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing.

14 and 6 at that point. I get he's trying to be funny, but go fuck yourself. Well, it's very much after Kmart from Kenyon Martin. Oh, well, yeah. Well, I think it was just everything. It was A-Rod and this one. Yeah. Fucking J-Lo and Dick Slow.

Everybody was doing it. Everybody was doing that for a long time. You make your own word out of your fucking name. Oh, forget about it. That was a very popular thing. I never want name forget about that was a very popular thing i never want to be it no you don't want to be that that's terrible that's fucking terrible uh so this one here gets a submission with a rear naked choke in round four uh uh here so uh is that a loss for bj no that's a yes it's a loss no that's a win for bj he beat sorry he beat florian beat florian yeah he beat florian sorry rear naked joke uh Is that a loss for BJ? I think so. No, that's a... Yes, it's a loss for... No, that's a win for BJ. He beat... Sorry. He beat Florian?

He beat Florian. Really? Yeah, he beat Florian. Sorry. Rear naked joke, round four, 14-5-1 for BJ. Now, August 10th, 2009, another book. He's got another goddamn book, this fucking guy. He's published author twice.

Three times, actually. Oh, boy. This is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, The Closed Guard. So this is very... You know, this isn't like light reading. That's just someone's going to pick up and you have to really be into this. These are actual writings. Yeah, this is him and another guy.

Kraus is his last name, I think. December 12, 2009, UFC 107, Penn versus Sanchez, where he fights Diego, The Nightmare Sanchez. 29 and 12 career fighter here. Round five at 237, the doctor stops the fight. Really? And BJ wins. Yeah, doctor stoppage.

Oh, dude, was bleeding too much? Yeah, or just couldn't, I don't know what the fuck it was. But yeah, doctor stoppage, 15-5-1 for BJ. Now, they talk about how he was in better condition for the bout. He seemed in better condition, basically. He seemed just more active than normal and just looked like he'd been training better. They said he hurt Sanchez a bunch of times. Finally hit him with a flurry in the final round and finished a combo with a right right high kick and that opened up a big giant

cut on sanchez's forehead uh above his left eye and that's when they stopped it uh the doctor stopped it after that yeah yeah very much a dusty road scenario in the mid 80s through it man it's over yeah the too much blood is they always stop that shit for that that's by the way the uh easiest way to make a fight stop they uh old wrestlers talked about archie moore who's an old fighter great boxer he's an amazing boxer he back in the day did some stuff with wrestlers and he taught them how they used to fix fucking boxing matches because they always used to do that and it's not even a matter of fixing it it's a matter of stopping it in the right round via the cut yeah and your trainer would slice you with a razor blade just like a wrestler

above the forehead and then vaseline it up right so when you come out of the when you come out because it's a razor cut so if you cut if you coat it it won't open right it won't open but the first time you get hit on it boom it will blow the fuck up and that fight will get stopped that's how boxers would would fix fights basically like that that's you know wrestling they would do the same thing as a oh there's too much blood it's a stoppage you got to come see dusty and rick flair next time then you know that's say that's what i mean when this was a kick to the forehead it wasn't that but it's uh that's how they used to do it in other sports that's fascinating uh when he did that

uh uh he uh this was i guess he was the only guy to first loss for Sanchez at the time. Joe Rogan said, and I quote, that right there, ladies and gentlemen, is the greatest lightweight in the history of the sport. Wow, Joe. BJ Penn. Joe, that's too bad. Joe has had a very illustrious career. He's been with UFC forever. He's a good announcer, I think, too.

And Jesus Christ, he's the reigning king he's a good announcer I think too and Jesus Christ he's the he's the reigning king of podcasting he really is he's the Howard Stern of podcasting that's the best way to put it yes because no matter you look at the podcast charts just if you're a casual podcast every week he's always number one and new shows will come out and those networks will shove them up people's asses and pay to really pay for all promotions he'll knock them down a couple slots for a couple weeks and then right back at the fucking top he's you know whether he'll like his show or not he's you know he's really really good at what he does he's really done an amazing thing he's built quite the empire over there but this was a stupid thing to say that i will say i think if you told him that he'd go oh did i say that yeah oh i mean at the time at the time i might have thought it looked like he was gonna do that yeah i don't know it's one of those so uh

yeah they talk more about his gym there's a couple more fluff pieces that come out they say that the downstairs looks like the uh looks like an old like a like a boxing movie like an old boxing movie it's kind of an old school gym uh at that point they talk about that he launched a weekly variety show on a local k-h-o-n-t-v honolulu station called the 808 scene that sounds terrible jesus christ yeah 2010 wow uh he's uh that was so recent that's with his brothers that's i mean all of this is recent this is going to be crazy uh there's a he had a couple you know kind of low-level documentaries on on him at that point he's really well known at this point uh he also wrote his autobiography why i fight the belt is just an accessory they are pretty sure he's going to be the greatest ever

oh absolutely i mean talking about all this shit and his uh tom callous his old trainer said quote when bj talks kids listen let's hope not uh through through his website he's taught more people than i'll ever teach in my lifetime no martial arts teacher has reached more students with the exception of bruce lee's books so they're putting him in bruce lee and then bj penn so that's a very high praise. He appears on Last Call with Carson Daly. Remember that? Jesus Christ. They gave him a late night talk show.

The try again at TRL for people that are now much older. That show should have been called, it was just one last shrug with Carson. He's like, I don't know. Is this going to work? That should have been the opening of every show. They play their music and then he shrugs and he goes, don't know is this working this isn't working right will you be back tomorrow this is i'm never gonna be like letterman right this will be the last time you

tune in right yeah i'm never getting the tonight show or anything this is just i'm gonna work here for a little while and then when my contract's up i'm gonna go quietly into that night right that's what happens okay i've made the majority of my money i did this that's right i should start saving now is what you're telling me. I should start cutting down expenses. I think CDs and T-bills. I should kill my ex-wife. Okay, excellent.

That's what happens. Carson Daly murdered his ex-wife. I have no idea what Carson Daly did. I'm sure he's a fine man. I'm sure he's never murdered anyone. I don't think so. He seems like he had a decent sense of humor anyway. He goes along with jokes well. He really does. And when people make fun of him, he takes them. He just does murdered anyone. I don't think so. He seems like he had a decent sense of humor anyway. He goes along with jokes well.

He really does. And when people make fun of him, he takes them. He's like, he just does the same. I think it's okay. You're right. There's no reason I should have ever been on TV. I'm on TV. Can you believe it? Is that camera real?

Is there film in that fucking thing? I've got a Mercedes. Oh, my God. This is crazy. You should see my house. I have white cabinets. April 10th, 2010. UFC 112, Invincible.

That's the title of that one. That's another stupid one. This is versus Frankie the Answer Edgar, who's a 23-7 fighter. And this goes all, this goes the distance. And it's a unanimous decision loss for BJ. So he had the answer that time. Old Frankie did august 28 2010 ufc 118 it's edgar versus penn too yeah fighting frankie edgar again god damn it can't get enough of this frankie edgar guy this goes all five again another distance these two are pretty evenly matched but another unanimous decision loss for BJ. So 15-7-1 now. This is a problem.

It's getting worse. November 20, 2010, UFC 123, Rampage versus Machida. Yes. He fights Matt Hughes again. Okay. And he wins this one in 21 seconds with a knockout. Wow. This is a quick one.

Yeah, 21-second knockout. He's not very consistent. No. Sometimes it's submission. Sometimes he'll knock somebody out. Sometimes it a quick one. Yeah, 21-second knockout. He's not very consistent. No. Sometimes it's submission. Sometimes it'll knock somebody out. Sometimes it goes the distance. This is what the best fighter ever does, Joe? This is weird shit.

16-7-1 for him now. February 27, 2001. UFC 127. Penn versus Fitch. He fights John Fitch, 32-7 career fighter. This goes all three rounds, and it's a draw. 16-7-2 now. It's just a messy record. Very messy record.

He's not very convincing. No. April 12, 2011, that's when his book comes out, Why I Fight. The belt is just an accessory. This is number two. This is number three. This is actually about him. This isn't about like martial art or MMA fucking, you know, jujitsu strategy. This isn't that.

The belt's not what I'm about. Yeah, this is why I fight. Right. It means something deeper to me. Okay. Yeah, that's it. Also, he appears on Hawaii Five-0. What?

As like a gang member. Oh, when the show came back. The show. Yeah, he appears on that. So I'm going to say with a book and an appearance on a major network TV show, this is grace. For sure. This is grace, because it's all downhill from here. This is the best it's going to get, BJ.

That's it right there. Joe thinks you're amazing. Enjoy your Hawaii Five-0 fame, and that's that. Enjoy. You play that for your grandkids. Is that how you get to own Hilo? I think so. You appear on Hawaii Five-0 fame. And that's that. Enjoy. You play that for your grandkids. Is that how you get to own Hilo? I think so. You appear on Hawaii Five-0.

Now, August 28, 2011, his brother Reagan makes his MMA debut here. He fights Paul Gardner, who's a one-in-three career fighter. And Reagan wins with a rear naked choke at 110 in the first round. So an impressive debut for his brother. October 29, 2011 is UFC 137, Penn versus Diaz. And this is versus Nick Diaz. 29-6 career for him. This goes all three rounds, and it's a unanimous decision loss for BJ again.

16-8-2. So November 5, 2011, there's Reagan. His brother has a second fight and i'm only telling you this because you'll get it in a second he fights evan the butcher cuts okay cuts c-u-t-t-s the butcher that's stupid 10 and 4 career record this goes the distance unanimous decision loss for reagan and he never fights again that's it so one in one career for him so that was a quick one for there yeah for him now 2012 uh finally the charge of the assault charge against him is finally over after he completes 50 hours of community service and pays a two thousand dollar fine boy that took a while yeah so that took seven years to play itself out completely that's bonkers seven years after you

punch a cop you finally are free you've been on tv 30 40 fucking times you've been on hawaii 50 with uh james khan's kid i think is on that you've got all sorts of shit happening you've written three books since then literally you've written three books and it took you that long sucker punching a cop hangs over your head Christ to resolve these goddamn charges December 8th 2012 UFC on Fox 5 Henderson versus Diaz he fights Rory the Red King

McDonald yeah this is goes all three for unanimous decision loss again 69 and 2 for BJ so it's not getting much better July 6 2014 UFC Ultimate Fighter Finale 19. Frankie Edgar again. Good lord.

Jesus Christ. I think he gets sick of this guy by now. This is a round three TKO from punches loss for BJ. So 16-10-2. Jesus. Not a good run for him here. He's only had fucking 28 fights. Yeah, not a great.

Wow. He has to be the most hype for yeah the i shouldn't know him with that record that yeah that's what i mean i should never know who that guy is it's i don't know what he has by the way as we'll see here i don't know what pictures he has of dana white and what dana white's doing what eight-year-old boy he's fucking blowing at the time when these pictures were taken. I don't know. Yeah. Because that's the only reason that you would keep this.

Because you lose like two, three minutes. They fucking cut you. Right. And also, too, if you get arrested and you're losing, you get cut. Him, he sticks around forever. Wait till you see how, it's amazing, how many chances Dana White just keeps. Like, well, you know. I don't know.

BJ Penn still sells. That's what I mean. It's crazy. It's very hypocritical is what I'm saying here. January 21st, 2015. This is at the Four Seasons Hotel in Maui. That sounds lovely. It sounds beautiful.

It sounds like you can hear waves crashing. It doesn't sound like a place where we'd want to hear somebody's teeth getting knocked out. It doesn't sound like a place where we'd want to hear some dude's teeth getting knocked out. It doesn't seem like a place where we'd set the scene. Dateline, Four Seasons Hotel, Maui. Man, a man was bleeding. All people will bleed at the end of this, don't you worry. So at this point, he has said he's retired after he lost the last fight. He said he's retired for now.

It's kind of one of those soft retirements, we'll call it. He ends up in a parking lot brawl here outside a bar by the Four Seasons. He apparently, this is fucking ridiculous what ended up happening, okay? They had a good time. He's out with his friend, actually. That's the thing.

He gets in a fight with his friend actually this that's the thing gets in a fight with his friend kuwipo mokai mokai mokiaio jesus there's a lot it's double there's k u u i p o is the first name i don't know uh mokio uh apparently uh uh they they had a good time and then bj got into some kind of argument with somebody outside as as he often does, as we'll see. And his friend, Makayo, tried to keep him from fighting other people. He's like, come on, BJ. Come on, BJ. So apparently, BJ decided to punch him.

He fought his friend. He fights his friend, and his friend said that he tried to cover up and defend himself but bj was kicking the shit out of because you know he's a professional fucking fighter and all that's what i mean if you're just this is what he does this is what he does uh including a really hard knee to the forehead so i mean he really works him over and we'll talk about what happened to this guy so police come and they then he runs away police come and arrest b. They find him at the Wiley Hotel and arrest him. They book him on second degree assault charges. They describe him as highly inebriated, as I would imagine.

Drunk as shit and can still pound ass. Fuck his friend up here. Basically, his friend ends up with a fractured left eye socket out of this. From the knee. From the knee or punches. He just beat the shit out of him. He worked him over. BJ had a little cut under his eye from the whole thing.

So he took one. Yeah, the guy was trying to fight back, but Jesus Christ. I mean, I don't think it affected BJ much, especially if the one guy's got a crushed in eye socket. Christ Almighty. So second degree assault, and then he's released on bail or whatever. So March 30th, 2015.

This is about two months later. They make a deal where he can avoid jail time for this assault here. The prosecutor of the Maui prosecutor office here says that the victim will be would be satisfied if BJ pays all the medical bills stemming from the incident he's not trying to fuck him he's like look i'll drop the charges if you just you know fix my eye fix my eye socket please i'd like my eyeball to stay in there it's weird i'm just walking around it falls out dangles i gotta pop it back in jesus it's a problem uh please help me here thanks bj yeah so they're uh this would keep him from him from being prosecuted and possibly going to jail. His lawyer, the other guy's lawyer, said, quote, Penn's attorney was supposed to check on the extent of the billings, and we would also be checking in with the victim thereafter.

And his lawyer indicated that they want to take care of everything as far as the medical bills. So he's like, great. It would cost you way more to go's like great it would cost you way more to go to court yeah it costs you way more to have a lawyer fighting assault charges oh yeah so you might as well just pay for it so after all this may 2015 he's inducted into the ufc hall of fame why what the fuck is happening what did you do dana white what did you do honestly what did you do and bj penn somehow walked in on, like, Herc from The Wire walking in on the mayor getting a blowjob.

And then he owns you for it. You own the guy. Is that what happened? Dana, what did you do? It had to be bad, man. There's no way this guy's in the Hall of Fame. It's got to be based on his name and what he's done for the UFC. Well, because he can't.

Based on his being the CNN. It's his website. His website had to do it. It's got to be based on his name and what he's done for the UFC. Well, because he can't be in the CNN. It's his website. His website had to do it. It's that. And also, if you think about it, he started in 2001 in UFC when it was just a that was not a huge deal. So he helped really grow the sport. I think guys like him, not just him, but a few guys like he made a brand to of the. Yeah, that's what I mean.

People. That was a big deal that, you know that helped the ufc a lot so march 15th 2016 he's wanting to make a comeback or march 25th he's wanting to make a comeback in ufc but he's suspended for uh for a year and he could have got suspended for two years for unauthorized use of an iv what he put it right in his cock. It's not allowed. No, I don't know. We'll talk about what this is, okay? He wanted to fight at UFC 199 over the summer, but they're talking about it's a USADA violation to use an IV.

I don't know what's going on here. Is this a hydration? No, basically he had taken an IV of more than 60 milliliters in a six hour period in March, which is a violation of the rules. This is very intricate. These rules. He said that he had BJ said he had no idea that those rules existed. He has no clue. Uh, after he said, after getting to Greg Jackson's camp, I guess he was going to get in shape.

They had a team of doctors that suggested an IV of Jesus Christ. What the fuck is that word? Glutathione, glutathione, I guess. G-L-U-T-A-T-H-I-O-N-E. It's gotta be, uh, uh, hydrates and such, you know, right? He said this was for his vision and vertigo issues. But he didn't realize the actual IV was an issue. He says, quote, they said that after doing a physical on me and taking a look at my symptoms, glutathione IV would be great for me.

They told me that having the glutathione administered through an IV would be the best way for my body to absorb the antioxidant. So the first thing I told them was that I'm signed up with the USADA year round. So we have to take a look at their banned substances list and make sure there's nothing in there. We went through the banned substances list and of course, glutathione was not on the list. Once we discovered that nothing in the IV was on the banned substance list, I let the doctor administer the IV. I was so focused on the USDA's banned substance list that I never gave any thought to the

IV except for the fact that sometimes people had used them for weigh-ins before a fight, I guess. So he said that he was adamant about, he called the guys that uh you give that use ivs for weight cutting wimps he says quote of course they are for wimps when the ivs being used to rehydrate a fighter who nearly killed himself cutting weight so that he can fight a smaller man if you're using an iv for that purpose then of course you're a wimp and i'll tell anyone that to to their face on the other hand if someone gets in a bad car accident needs an iv for a transfusion, am I going to call them a wimp? Of course not.

That's absolutely outrageous. Not exactly a parallel to his situation here for vision and vertigo issues. He said, that's absolutely outrageous. You know, seriously, who am I addressing here? This is a first grade conversation. So, yeah, that's it. God damn it. He said that he's going to be returning to Greg Jackson's camp in Albuquerque, which sounds like a nightmare.

That's sad. Well, you can focus on Albuquerque. You really can. Nothing else to do but hate Albuquerque. So he got banned for a year? Got banned for a year at that point. Now, that's what they say there. weeks later in uh in in april of 2016 dana white tells a reporter that bj is going to be coming out of retirement to fight in ufc 199 on june 4th which a two-month ban he's still banned though

it makes no sense uh they said that the ufc's law firm looked into the matter of the iv and determined no action had been taken against Penn by law enforcement here. He says this is, quote, following a review of the matter by Campbell and Williams, a Las Vegas based law firm hired by UFC to evaluate the situation. UFC has been informed that no criminal or civil charges have been filed against Penn to date, nor has any action been taken by any local law enforcement. This is in general. It should be noted that UFC reserves the right to reevaluate the matter should new information become available uh so uh uh pen

said he wouldn't go into detail with the whole thing uh he just says it'll put me on the back burner for a while that definitely hurt my heart i've got kids i've got two baby daughters and of course something like that's going to hurt your heart i don't know what that has to do with shit people know who i am and what you see is what you get with me i'm just a family man i've got two kids you know that's it i wish i could get into more but i'm sure my lawyers wouldn't appreciate that i'm cliches can you spit out at once he sounds like we just take it day by day and game by game and every once in a while you know you got to go out there and give it your best and your hardest and hopefully uh lord willing yeah hopefully you know we're gonna take the win for the city for the people sometimes a frog slippery

you know slippery wow he said i'm just glad that ufc did its investigation with an outside company and i'm very glad it's done that's as much as i can say i'm very glad it's done i'm very disappointed in how everything happened between me and my former employee that's enough this is another thing that's going to come up here in a second. Besides that, I'm very glad I get a chance to get back in the octagon. April 18, 2016, the Hilo Police Department launched a second-degree sexual assault investigation into BJ Penn, stemming from allegations made by the girlfriend of a former employee. What? allegations made by the girlfriend of a former employee what the alleged victim i guess had an

incident report here that said uh uh this was in i guess apparently jesus christ this is a weird thing uh second degree assault investigation it is uh uh the victim here uh says this happened in hawaii the report uh the whole thing was uh pedro carco, who was the former editor of BJPenn.com. He was the guy accusing him. He says, quote, tired of seeing this pervert BJ Penn in the news, quote, dude's a cocaine addict who sexually assaulted my Playboy model girlfriend and I have proof. Wow. So everybody says he does cocaine, by the way. He does cocaine because his girlfriend fucking says it, too, in court documents.

So he does cocaine a lot, it seems like. We'll talk about exactly how much in a minute because it's fucking repulsive. Carrasco, this guy, said in another tweet, quote, Penn came to my house when I wasn't there and forced himself on my girl, pulled her clothes off, then blamed me, said I looked at his girlfriend's ass. What? He said, basically, I'm going to come over and attempt to rape your girlfriend because you looked at my girlfriend's ass. That's the accusation here. I'm going to come over and rip your girlfriend's clothes off and, you know, maul her and manhandle her because this is an accusation.

We don't know. But that's that's the gist of what he's saying. I don't even know. I don't know what to say about that. It's fucking interesting. So his lawyer releases, a silver-haired middle-aged white man releases a statement. The allegations that Pedro and his girlfriend

are making against BJ Penn simply aren't true. Penn trusted Pedro to run his website for almost a decade and considered him family. He was fired last year for unethical behavior and was provided a severance that ended in february of this year one day later allegations appeared in a one-sided twitter rant which happened to be many months after the alleged date in question there are many holes in pedro's story in the almost 15 years that penn has been a champion fighter there's not not been ever any incident or allegation in regards to his conduct with women men yes uniformed police officer sure but uh certainly but not not women he's a family man

and a father of two young daughters just keep that a family man and a fight wait till you hear this uh with known law with a known long-term girlfriend it's unfortunate that someone uh bj considers family is trying to extort him. So we'll talk about this here. July 3rd, 2016. He has his UFC suspension shortened to six months. Oh, retroactive to March 25th. So six months from March.

So September, he's ready to roll and can be back in action. Takes him a little while, though, here. Here's a little breaker. Mid-January 2017, BJ's got a fight coming up on January 15th, his big comeback fight against Yair Rodriguez in Phoenix, actually. And a couple days before that, his brother Reagan gets arrested at the airport in L.A. that his brother Reagan gets arrested at the airport in L.A. This is when TMZ takes over the Penn family, and TMZ has a lot of good information on them.

TMZ said that Penn, quote, got into it with flight crew over alcohol. And we'll talk about exactly what happened here. Apparently, he was on a plane when he asked a flight attendant for another drink but was turned down because he was drunk. So he got angry. And then he started an argument with the flight attendant, which then the rest of the flight attendants came over and told him to fucking chill out.

And they wanted him to get off the plane. This is before they took off. Mind you, they were already hammered. He's already hammered. He wants a drink and he's already belligerent. And they're still on the fucking ground. Can you imagine if a dude in front of him didn't put his seat back up? Oh, my God.

He would have fucking choked him from behind. Jesus Christ. See, at least that was at the end of a long day of travel. That was the end of a long weekend. It was literally the last 15 minutes of the flight. I'm like, I just want to pummel this motherfucker. I made it through the whole week without wanting to kill anybody. I don't understand why somebody telling you you've had too much is such an insult people oh my god boy did they lose their shit i've been a bouncer you want to see

people get angry yeah you tell them you tell a grown i'm a grown person you tell an adult person that they have had too much to drink and can't have anymore. Oh, my God. They have flashbacks of their fucking dad telling them they couldn't go to the prom because they crashed his car or something. They just lose their goddamn mind. Even if you're a huge person and you've had enough to make a small person super drunk, you've probably had enough. You've had enough.

Just go home. Some people haven't't so they asked him to get off the plane they're like well you know what we don't need you on this fight that's the worst so he refused of course i'm not going anywhere he said quote i won't get off the plane without a fight oh don't say that you can't say that post 2001 that's not gonna work we're in 2015 at this point this is 2015 you cannot do this on the ground so uh so he yelled that and the cops were called and he said the same thing to them and they said okay fine we'll drag you off the fucking plane then that's what they do so they did uh he's arrested and charged with

trespassing because they told him to get off the plane he wouldn't get off the plane and uh because he didn't hit anybody or anything but But they do let him out on bail. So January 15, 2007 is BJ's big comeback. UFC Fight Night 103, Rodriguez versus Penn. He fights El Pantera, Yara Rodriguez. 11-2, he's a career fighter here. 24 seconds into round two, it's a TKO loss for BJ.

Gets punched into a TKO. tko 16 11 and 2 not a great comeback my god june 25th 2017 ufc fight night 112 he fights dennis silver and that's the guy who's supposed to fight way like the last year uh 23 and 11 career this goes all three it's a majority loss or is it sivir i think it might be silver i don't know i don't think there's an l in there uh majority loss uh a majority decision loss for bj 16 12 and 2 okay not going well no i would say no uh this is when it gets real nasty he almost has the same winning percentage as his brother who had two fights it It's getting to be 50-50. October of 2018, a restraining order

is obtained against him and an order of protection for his, quote, estranged partner, his known long-term girlfriend, Shailen, Jesus, U-A-I-W-A. Nope.

I don't know. U-I-O? I don't know. U-I-I-W-A. Nope. I don't know. U-I-O. I don't know. U-I-O? U-I? Shailene. Shailen. Shay.

Shay. Shailen gets this temporary restraining order, an order of protection in October, and it's extended later on as well. It expires October 8th, 2021. Oh, it's still current. Yeah, it's extended uh later on as well uh it expires october 8th 2021 oh it's still current it's it's yeah it's going on here uh there's apparently an incident which we'll get into very much in a few minutes here but uh apparently this incident uh she wrote at this point that spurred this particular action to happen that when she and her mother went to pick up her kids, she was confronted by BJ, who verbally abused her and her mother. She wrote in a report here that Penn, quote, made it hard for them to get out of the driveway

and made it seem like he wanted to attack me and my mom through the window. She was menacing them through the window is basically what she's accusing him of. November 29th, 2018, BJ's brother Reagan is again fucking up. He's in Brazil and he gets in trouble there. He's in Rio de Janeiro to help BJ prepare for a fight. And instead of that, he assaults three people in a in a place called Botafogo. It's a city, I i think or a neighborhood maybe uh the military police tweeted that quote an american identified as an mma fighter had to be restrained after assaulting a few people

the foreigner was very aggressive that's my favorite line ever spoken of anybody we've ever talked about quote the foreigner was very aggressive i don't know why that's so funny he's soup which i don't i believe that after the plane incident here uh that's so funny they said firemen were called to take a to take uh people to the hospital that he beat up he just started beating people up apparently in a bar somewhere uh he then flew back to hawaii and bj stayed behind to finish his camp up obviously december 29 2018 he's still goddamn fighting this is what i mean it's weird through all these And BJ stayed behind to finish his camp up, obviously. December 29, 2018. He's still goddamn fighting.

This is what I mean. It's weird. Through all these accusations and everything else. UFC 232. This is Jones versus Gustafson 2. I don't know. He fights... John Jones. John Jones.

Oh, yeah. John Jones. Ryan the Wizard Hall. I don't know. That's who he's fighting. That's who he's fighting. He's currently an 8-1 career fighter because he's still fighting. He won his last fight in July of 2019, so good for him.

This is a round one loss, 2 minutes and 46 seconds, a submission by Heelhook, 16-13-2. My word. He's just ruining his legacy. It's over. This is just ruin your legacy time here. But he's still getting on all the video games. He's on every video game through 2018. He's making money.

As long as he sticks around. This would be such a great TV show because you could just hit the sound bite of Joe Rogan every time. Yeah, that'd be the greatest. One of the greatest. Not just the sound bite. The fucking footage of it. Yeah, of him saying. Yeah, I want to see his mug.

Joe, what are you thinking, pal? You're great. Whoops. I guess everybody, you know, you can't say anything. Yeah, you got to look at them in the moment and you got to make an appraisal of what they're going to do. I think, too, if you see something exciting and then that at the last second, the adrenaline gets the most. You're excited. I can't believe I just saw that.

It's amazing, yeah. He's going to be so good. That's the best. Yeah, I can see that. And then this. And so, wow. Whoops-a-daisy, Joe. Hey, Joe.

Come on. At least he's done much better since then. Yeah. April 8th, or April 10th, 2019. This is when all the restraining order shit becomes public, and it is fucking messy because it gets way worse than this. Now the things about cocaine come out and everything else. She alleges, Shailen, alleges that Penn verbally abused her and menaced her in front of their two children and her mother, threatened to kill her entire family, and sexually abused her. She's saying this is in a written

statement attached to a protective order here so this is you know she's under you know this is uh not you can't just willy-nilly lie i mean you can but it's fucking perjury i think uh she detailed several episodes of disturbing behavior of what she called disturbing behavior uh this took place over three years and uh she and she said uh she's only really talked about the most recent incidents in these reports she said she didn't report penn to authorities quote because of his name reputation the control he had over my life and i was scared yeah he fights and i'm a girl he fights he's also very dominant and scared and absolutely that's what domestic violence she just described domestic violence and it's And absolutely. That's what domestic violence is.

She just described domestic violence. And it's worse if the guy's famous and a professional fighter. Right. You know, that's scary. She said she wrote, quote, I feel fearful for my safety and my children's life and for the influence he has over my children. As we'll talk about. Jesus Christ. This is crazy.

She this is about the incident with the mother in the car here uh she said uh she wrote quote that bj quote came to the car threatening my mother that he will kick her kick her dumb fucking ass out of her house uh he was uh he was harassing me and my mother with verbal abuse calling us us. It's deleted. Take your pick. Fucks, bitches, cunts, anything. They put ass in there, so it's got to be worse than that. So I'm going with cunt or bitch.

It has to be. Manipulators and stealers. I was trying to get out of the driveway, and he was making it hard like he wanted to attack me and my mom through the window. My children witnessed this incident incident which is not good no uh she said that during this altercation that bj told her quote because you're not a man you think you can't get knocked the fuck out well that's uh no that's very aggressive i would agree with the foreigner was being very aggressive that is fucking aggressive right there jesus christ things first bj you can't just start that fight and knock a girl out just because you're not a man

you can't get knocked yeah that's exactly what i think actually you'll go to jail for way fucking longer right away you punched a cop in a uniform and got nothing for it that's how that's how nothing it is to hit a man you broke your friend's fucking eye socket no big deal right but me if you hit me i promise you hit her you're going for a long time your career's over you're going to jail you got problems yeah you're gonna be you're gonna be considered a piece of shit forever when he fights dudes in bars it's like hey that's what you want out of a crazy fighter guy you expect a guy in a bar to get mouthy drinking and seeing BJ Penn, who's clearly not the greatest fighter ever, according to his record. No. And then getting a little froggy and a little mouthy.

Yeah. And then you get the shit kicked out of you. You go, well, maybe he's better than I am. Or not knowing who he is. Yeah. And he gets mouthy with you and you're like, fuck this fucking 5'7", 145. I'll knock his ass out. And then he's like a professional fighter.

And then he covers you up. He kicks your ass. Yeah'll knock his ass out. And then he's like a professional fighter. And then he covers you up. Kicks your ass. Yeah. So that's wrong. She also said that Penn threatened to kill her brother and her whole family and tried to wrestle her down and take her phone when she wanted to call the police one time. Illegal. Very illegal.

That's very illegal. She said, and this is all this is like that's you's, we can show you her handwriting. Her handwriting did it. And in the actual police report. That is damning. Yeah. Children witnessed their father trying to wrestle me down and take my phone and that he could kill my whole family or have them killed. Yeah. She said that their 11-year-old daughter told her that she would, quote, rather jump off

our balcony at our home than hang out with her father, which is rough. She said Penn repeatedly, verbally, and physically abused her. She said Penn tried to get her to have sex with other men and pressured her to do drugs as well. Why would you do that? I don't understand. Stop that. Why do you want her to have sex?

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if... No, it's not. No, it's not. That's gross. Stop being gross. Knock it off. You don't want her to have hey wouldn't it be cool if no it's not stop stop being gross knock it off you don't want you don't want her that's the end of the story you you're willing to beat the shit out of her you're threatening her whole family and you want her to fuck other dudes you don't want her once you threaten to kill her mother and tell her she needs to fuck other dudes i think

you're pretty much over it's over it's been 10's been 10, 12 years at this point. You don't love her. I would say not. None of those things scream love to me. But he's a family man, Jimmy. I have babies. It's a family man. This episode should be called The Family Man. That's what it should be called because there's no other way to do it.

Holy shit. Wow. I don't even know what the hell to talk here. Also, she said that he would frequently yell at her in an abusive manner when she refused to perform certain, quote, unspecified sexual acts. You know what it is. We all know what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

She was like, you know, I had chili for lunch. I'd rather not. Yeah. I don't want to. You have to tell me a couple days in advance. Yeah. I don't know. I got to get.

It's not just a spur of the moment thing. You can't just do that right now. I'm not into it. Especially when you're all jacked up because she also says that he attacked her and shattered her phone during a cocaine binge right after he was inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame.

This was like right then. She claims that he flew into verbally abusive fits when he got high and often threatened her. A lot of these allegations are about drugs. She said that Penn's been a drug addict since 14 and, quote, uses his training camps to try and stay sober. So we've had fighters like this before that said they go crazy and then they have training camps, totally clean. And then it's that shit time again until it's time to go into training. She said this is one of the crazy.

This is in her handwriting and everything. Quote, I woke up one night to him scared because he listen to this because he, quote, got cocaine on my oldest daughter on her how do you get cocaine on somebody are you doing coke out of the off the baby i don't know what's happening with the oldest daughter she's like 10 years old i got cocaine on my daughter what how do you get cocaine on your daughter why do you have coke near your daughter near your daughter and then what happened would you sprinkle it on her to sneeze and it went all over why is she that close to the cocaine right uh she said quote he was freaking out and he wanted to commit suicide i called his father and his father witnessed it all yeah so that's another witness she's there he's a family man when he wants to when he gets cocaine on his child

and he wants to kill himself his dad comes yeah there you go that's a family man he's got remorse uh yeah she also said that bj attacked her in their hotel room uh that was after the uh the uh hall of fame and uh verbally abused her broke her cell phone then she said quote him and his friends did cocaine in the bathroom all night while me and my children were in the room and his niece and auntie were in the living room. So that sounds very sleazy. That's fucking depressing. Yeah, I would say so. Now, his attorney, John Schmittke, Jr. Yeah, Jr.

He got a fucking junior as an attorney. Of course, junior on junior protection here called the records, quote, incomplete information. That unless you're saying complete fabrication, you are a fucking asshole. Incomplete information. Unless you're saying complete fabrication, you are a fucking asshole. Incomplete information. What? What's incomplete about it? There are some other things in there that made all that behavior okay. There's nothing that...

That's what I mean. That says that the cause is enough to warrant that effect, basically, is what they're saying. You don't know what caused him to get cocaine on his daughter and then threaten to kill his wife's whole family and smash her phone and do coke in the bathroom. You see, it was in a water balloon, and the water balloon broke. Jesus Christ. Wow.

He all complained, complained, and said that he didn't know why the court released the documents, which he believed to be non-public, because BJ tried to have them uh sealed and there was a that's why it went for a few months without being released it took six months for them to go no we're not sealing them and then it got released to the public uh he said that uh he couldn't quote by law comment on the allegations against penn because the case involves children which i don't know how it involving children makes him not able to comment. This is to make his criminology less known.

How silver was that statement? That was the most. So that was Schmitt. He should be silver key junior over here. Jesus. Penn's attorneys were denied a request to seal this type of shit here. He hasn't been arrested yet, but he's being uh he's being investigated he's required to stay a hundred feet away from his ex-girlfriend and refrain from contacting her while uh or through this order and then he's later though ends up being allowed supervised

visits with his two children and limited contact with her through their attorneys so he now he wants to contact his ex-girlfriend. He has to do it through an attorney to set up a time to meet their kids. He posts pictures all the time with his kids at this point because he's a family man, obviously. Now, the promotion of UFC, they don't fuck. Zero tolerance.

I believe the phrase that Dana White's used is zero tolerance policy. Zero. Something so close up that it might be verbatim. I believe, yeah, I think zero tolerance policy. Zero. Something so close that it might be verbatim. I believe. Yeah, I think zero tolerance is the words used. One percent. No, it's definitely zero.

Oh, he actually said that abusers would, quote, never bounce back from putting your hands on a woman. Actually, as we said, zero tolerance. But since then, this article that I'm reading that I was reading was talking about basically they defer to the legal system. Yeah. You know, it's whatever they say. Whatever their tolerance is. Yeah. If he's not currently in prison, then he can fight.

But if he's in prison, then we don't tolerate that. We don't tolerate you getting actually convicted. Yeah. He also said they use their own investigators and case by case-case assessments to determine whether abuse allegations ultimately lead to discipline. That's fine. But if there's enough allegations, it's kind of weird. Another, as his lawyer also says, quote, BJ is in a highly contested child custody case involving his two young daughters. We got cocaine on one of them.

That's going to be a rough one. The Order of Protection has made serious allegations against bj the allegations are so misleading so hurtful and false that any further comment by bj or about bj would cause more damage to the well-being of his children and potentially further inflame the pending custody proceedings bj and his family asked that you respect their privacy at this difficult time yeah he's a family man that's the thing uh now she says uh that she's been scared of him for years and you know his lawyer is fucking crazy basically so uh yeah he's being investigated uh so that's that week that's april 10th 2019 okay uh now april 19th, he's being investigated for a... Jesus Christ Almighty.

He escalates. I'm sensing brain damage or some sort of problem here. He's being investigated for threatening a farmer with a machete. What? How did he even get there? What mad libs did you expect me to put in there? For threatening a who with a what? How many times would it have taken you to get to farmer and machete?

Be honest. We could have sat here for three days. I don't know a farmer, and I've never been in possession of a machete. I don't know how he did this. How do you get there? How do you get here? How do you get to a farmer in possession of a machete? I have a machete.

Hello, farmer. Here's my machete. How does that happen? How do you do it? Jesus Christ. Come on, everybody. Let's go fuck the Grim Reaper. What is happening?

What is happening? How do you get to that place, BJ? You used to be important. It's a tarot farmer. I don't know what that is. I guess he pulls cards out of the earth and tells you your future. I don't know what tarot is. I'm sorry. I'm sure it's a tarot farmer i don't know what that is i guess he pulls cards out of the earth and tells you i don't know what tarot is i'm sorry i'm sure it's something very important but he apparently threatens him with a machete following a dispute over a trespass over the guy accusing him of trespassing a year ago oh my god bj let's get it together the threat occurred during a

dispute over access to his property in some valley over here, which resides next to this guy's tarot farm. Apparently, Penn brought a machete to the man's property and called him to come outside of his farmhouse. The victim, quote, feared for his life. It remained inside the residence where he hid. Yeah, because he's outside waving a machete around saying, I want to talk to you. Come out. Jesus Christ. I'm going gonna get cocaine on your children unbelievable at that point when he wouldn't come out they see it's written in the report that penn reportedly quote started to strike the ground with the machete and state that he was going to kill him cue joe rogan he's just

fucking the great he's chopping the ground i'm gonna fucking kill you that's crazy yeah that is insane behavior you cannot wait fucking chop a machete into the ground and threaten to kill a man who won't come out of his fucking house his farmhouse this is crazy so uh the guy waits and doesn't come out eventually bj goes away he's lucky didn't chop his way through the door no doubt uh but later on that day he came back bj came back and damaged the man's entry gate with his atv i guess the guy closed the gate and bj bashed it open with his fucking atv uh he said that uh uh the victim said that he felt unsafe there and feared for his life so he left the area and reported the incident to police. Oh, boy.

That sounds like a really reasonable thing to do at that point. Yeah. A, fear for your life. So what a nightmare situation. There's a fucking crazy person who... Who you are well aware of what he's capable of. That's the thing. And if you just go on your phone and read something,'d be like jesus any local news would be all

about bj penn getting you know getting cocaine on his children and joe rogan quote here and being a family man yeah with a joe rogan here and a greatest ever it's there a bit of coke on the baby here sprinkle a little coke there she was he was just seasoning her that Wow. This is fucking crazy. So his attorney says that he denies any violent acts by Penn, who he says that, quote, BJ says he's never even given a statement to the police. They haven't told him he's got a terroristic threatening charge or there are charges pending. He just said there was an incident. It was over a year ago, and it had to do with a gate. There was no threatening or machete or anything like that. That's his deal here. But at the time, the lawyer's full of shit because at the time, the police department issued an APB,

actually an all-state bulletin, stating that Penn was wanted for arrest. He's accused accused of first degree terroristic threatening uh which is a class c felony and carries up to five years in prison so not great uh yeah that's that's a big deal and a uh sergeant with the hawaiian police department who spoke to him uh who spoke said quote all parties involved have not been located or contacting and we're looking for bj basically so he's got to wander the fuck around that's all it is and where's he hiding in the jungle yeah what do you do with the machete with the machete just sharpening his machete guy will chop the shit out of any ground trails very very fucking strange it's a i don't know what he's thinking put it that way I do know at one point he is in his hideout and there's a knock at the door

he's very surprised at that because he's not told anyone but obviously his family because he's a family man where he is and he's even more surprised when he opens the door and it's my grandma

standing before him tiny with red hair 91 years old. Bottle amaretto. Bottle amaretto, taking a swig. And she says... Ma, how is it you've come to arrive? Why are you here?

Ma, you could have been my handsome boy. I don't know, you get a little fat. But that's okay, ma. You get feed from the girlfriend. But why, ma, you no hit the woman. Ma, why could have been my handsome boy. I don't know. You get a little fat, but that's okay. You get feed from the girlfriend. But why? Ma, you no hit the woman. Ma, why you do that? Why?

Do you get the cocaine on the child? No. Ma, why you do this? You son of a bitch. Ma, I'm so mad at you. You could have been so good. You're not a family man. You lie.

You son of a bitch. Lying bastard. He runs away. She'll chase you with a spoon she's not fucking around and then poof in a cloud of marinara sauce and anger she's gone and uh bj was like what the fuck was that my mom's korean and this is weird who's that tiny angry italian tiny angry italian well by the way this week if you're going to the crime and sports live my grandmother's coming. Fantastic. She's coming, and yeah, I don't know how many more outings she's going to get out of her at this age. So yeah, she's going to be there.

That'll be very fun. I'll make sure to imitate her in front of a room full of people and make her feel very good about herself. She loves that shit for some reason. Used to beat the hell out of me when I was a kid for it, but now, great. Now it's her favorite. Isn't this wonderful? Beat the hell out of me when I was a kid for it. But now, great. Now it's our favorite.

Isn't this wonderful? So, May 11, 2019, Rio de Janeiro, UFC 237. What? BJ's fighting again. What? You would think just under all of the machetes and cocaine on the chest, maybe we don't need you on the card. Distance ourselves.

Nope. Nope. Zero. Zero, Jimmy. Zero tolerance. He fights Clay the Carpenter Guida. Yeah. There you go.

Oh, boy. Who is 35 and 19. This guy is still fighting. He just lost a fight in August of 2019. This goes all three rounds, and it's a unanimous decision loss for BJ. 16, 14, and 2. It's so close. He's a fucking mess. There for bj 16 14 and 2 it's so close he's a fucking mess there's cocaine on his children jimmy there's a fucking wife there's farmers running in fear from machete wielding lunatics any no one's safe at a bar anywhere including uniformed police officers i

feel bad for all these people jimmy i'm not lying but not nearly as bad as I feel for real name J. Penn. Really? J. Penn, illustrator and concept artist in Ireland. J. Penn, a night auditor at the Sheraton Hotels and Resorts in the greater Philadelphia area. Oh, my word. Which sounds awful. That sounds terrible.

He's in Pennsylvania and his last name's Penn. Penn, yeah. J. Penn, business development and RIA strategy expert in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oh, I don't know. That sounds important. J. Penn, distinguished engineer at Aerospace Corporation in Redondo Beach, California. Our J. Penn has way too much brain damage. They probably do the same amount of coke.

Oh. Well, and then also J. Penn Gardner at Jnr landscaping in fresno that's terrible you got to go around with that name and gardening there was a local comic in phoenix named jay penn wasn't there was i don't remember i don't i don't remember what he what happened to him like every other he probably just stopped yeah just petered out. Right. And that was that, like most do. Now, June 25th, 2019. This is, we're getting into very recent times. Yeah. We're going to come up until like two weeks ago.

Right. He's in a bar fight. Oh, no. Okay. He gets in a bar fight with a bouncer at a strip club in Honolulu. How does he have money for that? I mean, he's just fought. Yeah, I guess.

Two months before that. And he's got the website, too. Right. That's the other thing. That's always kicking money to him. Yeah And he's got the website, too. Right. That's the other thing. That's always kicking money to him. Yeah, it's going to be fucking producing. So they start fighting in the club, and it spills out into the streets. Okay?

When there's titties out, there's no reason for fists. No reason for... These women are kindly enough. Yes. Kindly enough to display their wares for your enjoyment, and you're going to disrespect them with violent behavior. All you have to do is gawk and throw a couple of bills. I will not stand for this.

Where is your child? I'm sprinkling cocaine all over them because they fucking deserve it. I've had it with this bullshit. This is the club Femme New in Honolulu here. And they said that Penn was escorted out of the bar around midnight because he was quote very drunk yeah as he was being escorted out he starts to fight the door guy obviously multiple witnesses were there TMZ has a video of this shit of course as well this is all TMZ and their crazy shit they love BJ Penn and TMZ they love him because he's a gift that keeps on giving videos of him fighting in the streets constantly.

So he's apparently took the door guy to the ground and then also wrestled another guy. And at one point you can see Penn choking him with his forearm and shit like that. It's pretty, pretty hard. You can hear a bunch of people asking him to stop fighting and let the guy up. But he doesn't. One of the bystanders at this point runs in and starts punching BJ in the head, trying to get him off the other guy. But then everyone else calls him off and says, no, no, let him fight one on one. I don't know what's happening.

So BJ Penn. So then this is amazing. So they have the 911 tape also of the person calling the police on this from the club, which is hilarious. And she, this is a woman, tells the dispatch, quote, so BJ Penn is here causing a fight with the DJ. And they said she sounds clearly annoyed. And so BJ Penn's here.

He's here again. Do I need to go on? Right. Fighting with my DJ. So DJ Penn's here. He's here again. Do I need to go on? Right. Fighting with my DJ. So DJ Penn's here. You're sending a car, right? I got that meant like one's on the way. I don't have to tell you anymore.

I need help. Obviously, they said that he'd been basically causing problems the whole night. And the woman said, quote, It's really pissing me off. Quote, He's just running around with shorts and no shirt on screaming and yelling and trying to cause problems again he's oh again there's again at the end of this oh bj i love you you fucking idiot he doesn't know that he doesn't have to take his shirt off here no yeah you can keep your shirt up running and screaming he's trying to fight people what the trying to cause problems again.

That's my favorite part. Now there's this guy. He says he's BJ Penn. It's him, and he's here again. We've done this before. Shirt off, shorts, that's it. We've danced this dance before. Yeah, so you can hear another 911 call.

A man is calling to say that Penn is in a fight outside, telling the dispatch that they need help separating them. Send someone over here to separate them. The audio says you can hear a law enforcement official tell officers, quote, BJ Penn is back there trying to fight everybody. No weapon. That's what they give. That's the briefing they give the cops. Get in there. BJ Penn is back there trying to fight everybody. No weapon. That's what they give. That's the briefing they give the cops. Get in there. BJ Penn is back there trying to fight everybody.

No weapon. Not there's a man causing this. Five foot eight. BJ Penn is trying to fight everybody, which sounds like again. He left again out. But when he says BJ Penn's back there trying to fight everybody, no weapon, that means there's no machete or nothing. But, you know, he's there. This is not the first time this has happened No weapon. That means no machete or nothing, but he's there.

This is not the first time this has happened. No ATV, no machete. He's just there throwing blows. Just throwing blows. Sans shirt. Oh, no shirt. For sure. When the cops finally get there, he's already ran off and wasn't there anymore. He took

off, I'm assuming, with no shirt. However, he's not arrested for this. There's no warrant for his arrest yet. The victim doesn't look like they're too cooperative with the whole thing, basically. Because 50-50 with a guy. In a fight with a guy, he might just go, I don't want to fucking fuck him.

Go my way. Yeah, or he comes back here again. Nothing's broken. So is he's obviously an idiot this is all on video it's all 9-1-1 shit clearly he's a menace and a fucking moron and uh so july 9 2019 dana white says i'll give him one more fight i swear to shit i can't make this up i couldn't make this up he says yeah we're gonna give him one more fight and they said well why are you giving him another fight considering this goes against everything you've ever said? And he hasn't won in like five fucking years.

No kidding. What are we talking about? Dana says, quote, because he terrorized me for a freaking week and wouldn't stop texting me for three days straight. Talked me into it. We have a deal now. Win, lose, or draw. This is BJ Penn's last fight. So you can.

Hold on. Everyone take this into... You can harass Dana into giving you a fight? You just have to get his phone number, and you just text him for three straight days. He'll put you on the card, apparently. Wendler's a drop. Fucking, you can have machetes. Again can be something that happens a lot.

I mean, what the fuck is going on? Just takes a lot of text. Just takes blowing up his phone like a crazy girlfriend. This BJ Penn pen or this is a dana white he's a man of scruples i gotta say he's a man of high high uh personal standards whoa so august 28th 2019 he's still got a fight upcoming uh he uh you know according to dana white here uh august 28th he's in a street fight oh boy no i take that back he's in two street fights in the same night same night oh boy uh first fight number one okay i don't know if you want to add these to his records or not uh it's a bar fight in hawaii big shocker uh the video that tmz has obtained

again uh shows tmz does like a timeline too it's hilarious uh shows him uh sprawled out a quote sprawled out on top of another man raining down punches oh my god so he took somebody down he's just thumping the shit out of him he's at the lava shack on uh on the big island is how they put it here uh they said that yeah they he takes him to the ground and uh and they they said they have an earlier picture of him from instagram from earlier in the night. So they know it's the same night, same clothes on. He apparently, you know, had him mounted and was throwing just blow raining blows down upon him, which is crazy. They said it looks like all the shots landed pretty clean.

You could see a bunch of guys in security shirts move in and try to break the whole thing up. They don't know. 60 days ago. This is just happened. This just happened this just happened these this guy still is sore in the forehead from being punched whoever this guy is so got red marks absolutely so he took off after that they don't know what started this fight i assume he's drunk and was asked to leave yeah uh this is pretty much the repeat of the last incident in june so but the second fight is different. Second fight, this is interesting.

You can see him talking shit in this video. TMZ has this video. And BJ, apparently, while this is all going on, the other guy throws a left hook and nails BJ in the chin, and he collapses. And BJ goes down, arms sprawled out cold. I mean, one shot, punch, knocked him out.

And so you see BJ's friends help him back to his feet, and then everybody's screaming and yelling, and there's a big fight. But they're saying that this, they're trying to figure out, they think that this came first, and then BJ might have went and attacked the guy later they're not they're trying to figure out what happened first and later chicken or the egg here chicken or the egg here yeah which one but they think this guy knocked him out first and then bj that's bj's story anyway uh another person of course it is yeah somebody there uh now this bouncer says that bj hit him with a cheap shot and that's why he was

able to mount him but then later on he says that was first the bounce bj says he got beaten bj said he got knocked out so he came back for revenge exactly bj said he sucker punched me so i came back and fucked him up this guy says he took a fucking cheap shot at me got me on the ground beat the shit out of me so i came up and hit him with a left hook after that knock him out so it's just whichever you want either way one and one right yeah either way they're both reagan yeah it doesn't matter they're both one and one on the night i would say i'd call that uh now uh someone they talked to one of bj's friends and he said that bj felt that the other guy had been following him around and trying to bait him into a fight bj seems like one of those guys.

Yeah, maybe. It probably does. Especially guys think they're tough guys. That's why you don't go out. That's exactly why you don't go out. You always hear guys say that. It's tough. Everyone wants to start fights when they get drunk.

Everybody wants a piece of the champ, baby. Because if you beat up the champ, you beat up the champ. That's the thing. It gives you bragging rights. And beer muscles yeah way into that and uh all the old wrestlers they used to say when they go out to bars everybody would try to start shit with them right and that was the thing where they'd have to be like jesus christ man they'd have to you know they'd go out in groups and they'd have to they'd most of the time play it like oh yeah yeah yeah whatever you're

right and then you've got six uh wrestlers brawling with an entire bar and then you have yeah and those guys a lot of them are you know huge and crazy and plus every night they do this and regardless of scripted or not they take a lot of very hard blows that you probably couldn't and uh don't feel it quite as much as you do motivation james what is the motivation to go out you know what it is it's pussy it's pussy that's what it is they know it is pussy these guys are going out to capitalize on their celebrity oh yeah pussy and dudes are out there with the same competition they're trying to get pussy bj pens up in here trying to get all who's he think he is not only think he's a pussy i'm the tough guy bj hasn't

won a fight i'll fuck him up and take all that pussy. That's what it is. If I hit him, then all the pussy rains down on me like blows. Like cocaine on a child. One or another sub is raining down on me. Whether it's blows or cocaine on my baby, it doesn't matter. So apparently they said, quote, this guy is notorious for taunting BJ. He's a guy who obviously sees him around the island. Well, he's obviously reasonably tough if he can knock him out with one punch, too. He's obviously guy who, he's obviously, Sleaze him around the island. Well, he's obviously reasonably tough

if he can knock him out with one punch, too. He's obviously got a decent fucking punch or something. So they said that after he got knocked down, BJ was disoriented and his friend says

that his response was to go after the guy and that was the tackle and the punch there. So this is a goddamn mess. His rep says that, quote, upon meeting friends

for a concert at the Lava Shack, words were exchanged between BJ and the acquaintance. Yeah. From witness accounts, BJ tried multiple times to diffuse the situation, but was hit repeatedly and knocked to the ground, as seen in the video. He then says when he got back up, he was disoriented, yet realized how serious the situation and threat was and felt there was a need to defend himself. We're thankful that neither that B.J. nor the acquaintance were not seriously injured. So they made it sound like it was just a very all. They almost were hugging chance meeting chance meeting. A friend of his also said this.

He said, quote, I spoke to B.J. and to BJ and BJ's like, no, I did nothing. He said the guy punched him and many, many people saw it. The guy punched him again and he went, stop. What are you doing? This is what BJ said. Don't punch me. Stop. What are you doing?

Because that's the type of guy he is. Right. He'll take several. I'm dangerous. He'll take several blows and go, hey, guy, cut it out. I don't think so. And he said the man must have punched him at least four times. And some people are saying it was more like seven or eight times.

BJ did not do anything, meaning he didn't fight back. He was just backing up and saying, hey, hey, I'm a good guy. Generally, the words of a man who calls his mother-in-law a cunt. Yeah. Oh, in the driveway in front of his kids. That's perfect. Usually that guy quells situations. Good guy. Oh, he's a guy driveway in front of his kids that's perfect usually that guy quells situation good go he's a guy he's a cooler head that's always gonna prevail uh it's always gonna prevail ice in those oh you know it uh now he's still scheduled to fight nick lentz in the

future here based on dana white's thing august 30th 2019 nick lentz is talking shit about bj he says that watching all this in the street fights that are going now this is like a couple days later he said his quote like watching a live train wreck he said somebody needs to talk to bj and that's the whole reason i took this fight in the first place the whole reason i took this fight in the first place bj is i told you you need to get your life together i'm'm going to put your life together. That's what he says. He continues.

This is fucking amazing. This is so cool. He's literally saying, I'm going to beat you into a better being a better man. This is fucking awesome. I'm going. He's essentially saying, I will fuck your ass. I will humble you. I will make you humble.

Fuck your ass. I'll make you humble. He goes bong bong. Another man on who says,at, I would say. Lentz is a 30-10-2 career fighter. He's a good fighter. Good fighter. He says, quote, we're watching a live train wreck.

That's what we're watching, and we've been watching it for a long time. And somebody needs to go in there and stop him before he ends up dead. Who's to say the next guy doesn't have a knife or a gun, or he gets knocked out and hits his head on the curb and dies yeah fair he says quote we can have a little peace offering here not only will i beat him up but i will teach him and i will help him and i will get him out of hawaii where the cameras are sucking him in where people are taking those videos of him on the street i'm going to help him more than he's ever been helped in his life now i'm going to kick his ass for money at the same time but i'm still going to help him i like this's ever been helped in his life now i'm gonna kick his ass for money at the same time but i'm still gonna help him i like this fucking guy put you in a camel clutch fuck your ass that is awesome he said like basically i'm i'm gonna beat you like your dad should have

beaten like i'm gonna beat you because you need discipline that's what he said i'm gonna give you what you didn't get as a child i'm gonna help him more than any he's ever been helped in his life now i'm gonna kick his ass for money at the same time but i'm still gonna help him but he's right though he's moved home that's the prize in fucking hawaii he can't be there don't move i think it's like rule number three he's a junior he's moved home it's a fucking disaster it's everything all the rules it's not good if he finds religion we might as well start hiding might as well call it a day flee the islands everybody because he's a dangerous man now uh jesus christ this is so stupid man uh when do they fight are they is it gonna happen well a

few days later uh he says this other thing uh uh where there's another he's talking about another fight now that he's in by the way bj yeah few days later, he's in another fight after this. And he says, quote, I'm at a concert going to meet a friend that I've known since we were really young kids. And I'm over there, an acquaintance of mine, he gets mad about something. You know, something was said or something old or past, and then he says he wants to fight about it. I was like, no, no, no, I don't want to fight. We're friends. Everything is cool.

All I wanted was a Pepsi. Yeah. You wouldn't give it to me. So he said he even walks outside, i'm thinking this is silly i'm going to go get him calm him down and then get him to come back here and enjoy the concert we've got some other friends here he's just a he's a family man yeah uh i walk outside to give the guy a hug and he's and he hits me twice and i'm like no calm down i try to give him another hug and he hits me a couple more times and he hits me again. Finally, my adrenaline kicks in because he was hitting me so much.

And I said, go ahead and hit me again. This is what he's saying with the bouncer. He said, or the other guy. I thought the guy would eventually just say, forget it, BJ, whatever, walk away. But he hit me. And he hit me good and knocked me down. And that's when I got back up and he tried it again. And I just had to defend myself. And that's what you see in the second video.

and he tried it again and I just had to defend myself. And that's what you see in the second video. He says that the videos were edited to cut out the moments when he was trying to hug the other man and to defuse the situation. TMZ Sports says they did not cut a single frame out of the clips. He said, we posted what we were able to obtain in its entirety.

He said, there was another video on TMZ of me holding someone on the ground i'm in the middle of a custody case right now and and from that last one i already got a flack from the custody evaluator from the uh from their lawyer of course and from my lawyer it's like i can't be getting in bar fights i'm in a custody battle he said the last thing i want to do is get into any type of trouble my custody case me seeing my kids depends on all this stuff. And it's just really strange how things just happen and you never see this kind of stuff. But here I am in a custody case and this happened twice.

This happens all the time and has been happening for a decade and a half. You dumb fuck. Just because you're in the middle of a custody case doesn't mean that your life stopped. You're still going out, dummy. Wow. He says, I know how bad it looks. Do you really? Do you?

No. Have you got a clue? I don't think so. He said, I've got to take responsibility for the position that I'm in. I've got to take responsibility for when I was getting punched to not let my adrenaline go and start saying other stuff because I really didn't want nothing to do with that. I feel real unfortunate for the people who believe in me and follow me, and feel bad for them and that i was in these situations that's what he says yeah he's in a custody battle for for his uh daughters all those the restraining order and all that shit

still going uh uh she's he says that uh he this bj told the tv host quote uh that his fiance his ex-girlfriend is quote doing what she thinks she can do to get the kids up to California. That's her and her husband's game plan, so let them do that. And then he says that also the June strip club fight might affect his custody case. That looks bad. It does. Videos of you fighting in the street doesn't look good. See, I'm a fucking, I'm a family man.

You're a great father. Look at me. All I care about is my kids. So finally, finally, fucking September 26, 2019. Yeah. Very recently. Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, the UFC finally releases him.

Yeah. Finally. It's over now? What the fuck does it take? Dana White finally said that Penn will no longer be in the organization uh he said that it's over because of the physical altercations and all this type of shit he said that footage of the way uh the incident made its way around social media and after seeing it white described the scene as sad and added that penn quite quote won't fight again he said

quote he won't fight again that's it it's a. It's not even that this was the last straw. I didn't love him continuing to fight anyway, but we having the relationship that he and I have, and he's getting me on the phone, begging me for another fight, begging me for another opportunity, threatening me with pictures of me blowing an eight-year-old. No, that's a joke.

It's hard for me to turn him down, but after what I saw in that video, BJ needs to focus on his personal life and get himself together before he thinks about fighting again jesus christ he said listen i don't want to sit here on tv and pick bj apart on his life or whatever i think that we that we all know that bj penn what bj penn needs to do and hopefully bj penn needs knows what bj penn needs to do hopefully if i say bj penn enough it'll fill up the time that i have to talk and i won't have to actually say anything i'll just say bj penn knows what bj penn needs to do in bj penn's life to be

bj penn at his bj penniest you know what i'm saying that's all i'm saying so you get what i mean i'm taking a strong stance so let's count the bj penns i don't want to sit here and pick on tv and pick apart pick b BJ apart on his life or whatever. Okay, we'll let that one go. I think we all know what BJ Penn needs to do, and hopefully BJ Penn knows what BJ Penn needs to do. Not going to sit here like I'm his father or some guy who's above him pointing the finger at BJ,

and BJ needs to do this and that. What I saw in that video was sad. I love the kid and I hope he gets his life together. That's fine. So that's fine. It's a lot of BJs. And so that's currently he's unemployed or has his website or whatever. But UFC doesn't want him.

Quote, that's a wrap. Yep. Pretty much. Yeah, that's that for him. It's over. He can go fight in some low level thing. That's unbelievable that I know who the fuck that guy is. It doesn't seem like it.

To a point of... It's like a 16-14-2 career record. Yeah, he's got as many wins as he has not wins. Exactly. Yeah, 16 fights. Came out happy, 16 fights he was not happy. That's it. It's fucking weird, right?

It's super weird. He and his brother have the same record, in my opinion. Almost, yeah. It's pretty much 50-50. Can't get enough of him? Well, you can follow him on Twitter. He's his brother have the same record. Almost, yeah. It's pretty much 50-50. Can't get enough of him? Well, you can follow him on Twitter. He's at BJPenn.com, spelled out dot com, because he's pumping that. He follows 57,000 people.

He has 580,000 followers. Wow. 580,000. See how big he was? Yeah, because the news also goes through his feed. He's tweeted 57,000 times, too, which is quite a lot. His books are all on Amazon. Mixed Martial Arts, Book of Knowledge, Paperback from $1.99, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, The Closed

Guard from $20, so you can get that. And that, everybody, is BJ Penn. Wow. That is quite the fucking tale. I got to tell you guys something. That was unreal. I love the MMA guys guys because they're it's you and the boxing guy you just see it slowly deteriorate and in terms of you they can't control that little whatever that trigger is yeah they go from you know once

in a while some shit gets out of control to i'm gonna be in a bar fight every two months something bad's gonna happen for that guy oh it's something really bad this is the last six eight months have been a fucking tornado of shit he and now that he doesn't have ufc to keep him grounded of like because think about this was him going i have a custody battle i don't want to fuck up my fight with ufc now what he doesn't have it he doesn't have the money thing hanging over him it's who knows what the hell's gonna happen with this guy honestly i think it's gonna be ugly i don't know but uh we'll keep you updated in the future for any bj penn fuckery uh that happens so uh that is bj penn everybody uh hope you enjoyed that craziness jesus christ if you did i think i got a little idea of how you can tell us about it

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Go there. We have so much merchandise on there. All sorts of new stuff, too. There's a bunch of new stuff that's really, really cool. Those overnight bags are awesome. A lot of people are getting those. A bunch of new shirts. Get your Adam Jones arugula connoisseur shirt.

There's a lot of stuff on there you can grab. Do that. Also, a bunch of small town murder stuff. Tickets to live shows. Not many. Basically, what's for sale right now? There's not a lot of anything. There's not.

Rest of the year for small town murder, we're in Kansas City, St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, Milwaukee, Chicago. That's it. And most of those are sold out. I think there's two shows that aren't completely sold out. One has five tickets and one has like 12. Right. So that's it for the rest of the year.

We're going to be announcing a slew of new tour dates here for 2020 very soon. And then we have Crime and Sports this Saturday in Phoenix. Yes. If you have tickets. If not, you can't get them because it's been sold out for a while. That is going to be great. It's a great new venue. It's about a 300-seater them because it's been sold out for a while uh that is going to be great it's a great new venue it's about 300 seaters so it's intimate and uh there is going to be it's going to be fucking massacre we'll put it that way it's going to be it's going to be a

crazy episode i'll tell you right now we're doing new jack the wrestler and uh just trust us put it that way it's going to be wild and uh also april 8th in Nashville, Tennessee at Zaney's. There's some tickets left for that. The small town murder the night before is sold out. But the crime and sports, there's still a few left. Guys, don't let the small town murder people lap you in ticket sales like that. Stop that. This is like an experimental thing to see if crime and sports is, you know, like a something that's viable road thing.

So show them that it's viable and just as viable as small like a something that's viable road thing. So show them that it's viable and just as viable as a small town murder. It's almost sold out. You're doing great. We thank you for that. Honestly,

we're not breaking your balls, but let's push it over the top and sell it out and make them go, holy shit, crime and sports is amazing. Let's book it in more cities. Let's go to Boston.

Let's go to Portland. Let's go to Chicago. Let's go to the Midwest. Let's go to Philly. Let's go to Cincinnati. Let's go, we'll avoid the South, but let's go other Boston. Let's go to Portland. Let's go to Chicago. Let's go to the Midwest. Let's go to Philly. Let's go to Cincinnati. Let's go we'll avoid the South, but let's go other places. I'm just kidding. Minneapolis, some shit like that.

Nashville. Yeah, Nashville's like it's the South. It's super South. I mean, you're like an hour from Alabama or some shit, but it's in Nashville if you're in the city, it's a little feels less Southern. I don't know. It's a little less. I don't feel like I'm going to get my cousin Vinny. That's all. No, it's a little, it feels less Southern. I don't know. It's a little less. I don't feel like I'm going to get my cousin Vinny.

That's all. No, it's very high. Y'all like, y'all like hot chicken. It's a lot of that, but I don't feel like I'm going to get my cousin Vinny. I feel like everything's sort of, you know, a little more on the up and up. Not completely, but so come see us all there. Please do that. Also follow us on social media so you can get everything ahead of time. So next time we, when we announce Crime and Sports tour dates, because the one in Phoenix sold out excessively fast.

That way, if you're a couple weeks behind on the episodes or something, you can still see if we have a tour date or whatever. We are at Crime and Sports on Twitter and Facebook. And we are at Small Town Murder on Instagram. We kind of combine them for both. Do that. So follow that. Also, if you want to be a hero, and we don't, I apologize, we don't have shout outs this week. Honestly, it was just impossible to do.

Jimmy didn't have his computer with him, and we were on, it was a fucking mess. We were right down things. So it was really, really difficult. We apologize. I'm vouching for Jimmy. It was a very difficult thing to do, so I understand that. No problem. So we will have those, this week's-outs on Thursday's Small Town Murders.

So if you want to hear that, tune into that, even if you just tune into the shout-outs. But I suggest you hear the whole show because it's honestly a crazy case this week, too. I can't wait. Check it all out. Do that. Come see us. And you can be one of our hero producers who we will talk about Thursday very easily by going to patreon.com slash crime in sports or head over to PayPal. Use our email address, which is crime in sports at gmail.com.

You can get both of those places extremely easily. How, Jimmy? Shut up and give me murder.com. That's right. It's all there. It's all there. If you have anything related to us that you want to know or want to find out or want to get, it's all going to be at ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com.

You can do all that. And honestly, guys, we really want to say, since we don't have the shouts, we'll use our minute for this and say thank you for every goddamn thing you do for us as far as the Patreon donations. You guys send stuff in on PayPal. We have people that mail us money that are like, you know what? I don't use the internet for that kind of shit. I don't want to put my money in stuff.

People show up to shows and bring us an envelope of cash. It's crazy. We're like, you showed up. You don't have to do that. We can't. Honestly. You go out of your way to prove to us every week that we matter to you. It's crazy.

And that matters to us. So thank you. That matters to us a ton. That's why we try to go extra mile for you we try to give you extra show and we try to give you as much show and we try even today when neither of us i don't have my voice is no we have no energy man this is i we gathered it because we're like god damn it these people when they are going to work tomorrow morning they're going to want to hear crime and sports they're going to and then they don't care that we were tired they want a

fucking good strong funny episode to get them through their day. This has nothing to do with us. It's about you guys. So hopefully we did that for you, man. We tried our best. And we try our best each and every goddamn week. Just, if nothing else, to show you how much we appreciate everything you guys do for us. That's real.

You got it. So you guys are like our extended family. Seriously. This is a movement. We always said this is the crime and sports movement. We're not famous people. We haven't been on major TV shows where we can just get big guests on and shit like that. We built it.

There were two comedians who built something out of our living room into something pretty cool. And it's because of you guys. If nobody cared and if you guys didn't go out of your way to spread it and to help us, it wouldn't fucking matter one bit. So thank you guys for every last thing you do for us. And Jimmy, what if they wanted to talk to you? Thank you for what you do or yell at you for not doing the shout outs, whatever they want to do.

You can find me at Wisman Sucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N Sucks on Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat. I look forward to hearing whatever the fuck it is that you want to say. What about you? Yeah, you can find me at Jimmy P is funny. I'm going to do that and copy and paste my last name from the show description. And yeah, I get a little salty there sometimes, but I don't know what it is. I get annoyed when people are a certain type of disrespectful. It annoys me.

I don't know what it is. So I apologize for that. And by the way, at live shows, you can come up and say hello. So many people are like oddly like they I've had people actually ask, am I allowed to like shake hands with you? I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I'm yelling at criminal athletes and murderers and shit. I'm not yelling at you.

You guys are our fucking friends. I'm not a dick to you. You can come up, give me a hug, shake my hand, do whatever the fuck you want or don't touch my dick but outside of that we're okay nobody wants to anyway but it's fine outside of that you're okay just let's hang out and be comfortable and we're all gonna have a good time and do that so uh with that said we'll be back next week obviously and each and every week after that because uh i don't think we're gonna take another week off this year till christmas for crime that because I don't think we're going to take another week off this year until Christmas for Crime and Sports. I don't think we have any weeks off scheduled until then.

So next couple months you got us whole and, of course, Small Town Murder every Thursday. That said, live from the Crime and Sports studios, we will see you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts.

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