Crime in Sports - #181 - Get Me My Gun... And The Shovel - The Enormousness of Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson

Episode Date: October 22, 2019

This week, we look into a man who came along at just the right time to get rewarded greatly for his considerable talents. Unfortunately, that may have made him think that he was entitled to do whatever he wanted to do. This includes fighting with female gas station attendants, driving a Bentley while drunk, and barging into his ex's house at 3am with a frightening request. It's a story of someone who never wanted to follow his father's footsteps, but does he? This a crazy story, complete with some insane revelations about how the Jackson family chose their band members! Be one of the best basketball players in the country, don't take any flack from plastic houseplants, and never, ever follow a night club's dress code with Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm not doing well, either. He's driving a town and country right now or some shit. They gave him a giant... Fucking... He's got a giant maroon minivan, pulls it in my driveway. I'm like, where are the kids? There's all the soccer equipment there, pal. It's one of those cars where, like, dads that are like, yeah, it's cool. It's cool.

Fucking, you know it's not cool. No, it's not cool. You know that's not cool. There's not a damn thing cool about this car whatsoever. It's the most emasculating. Is that the word? Well, that's one of them. It's one of the words that you could use.

Makes you feel like a real pussy. To put it a little more succinctly, just like that. It's a real bitch car. It's pretty hilarious to watch him pull into the driveway. So, it's like, look at this. We got town and country there. It's a real bitch car. It's pretty hilarious to watch him pull into the driveway. So, it's like, look at this. We got town and country there. It's a pretty sweet one. It looks like a car a guy goes, well, I don't know.

We'll have to ask the wife. One of those guys' cars. It's not even. Can you go out tonight? No, let me see if I can. I got to ask the wife. You know how it goes. It's not even that.

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That's the woman that drives that car. There's drool all over the passenger door. All over it. Oh, there's Cheerios. You could fill a vacuum bag with the Cheerios on the floor of that car. And Cheez-Its and Goldfish. Tricks stuck to the carpet. Teddy Grahams all over the place.

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you keep this show going and we couldn't do it without you because that's true. So, yeah, with that all said, I think it's time to dive in here to our subject of the day. This should be interesting. We're going to basketball again, which is always fun. Whenever we do like the late 90s, mid-90s basketball, that's a fun time and we're going to have a fun time today. It makes me remember all that polo sport I wore. Oh, yeah, all that Paco Rabanne that you had all over you.

Tommy Hilfiger. Oh, you know that. The clear bottle. The clear bottle. I was listening to something with my daughter. I think it was Old Biggie, and he made a reference to Nautica, and she said, what's that? And I was like, that's hilarious. I didn't even know what that is.

That's a brand that either old fart white men wore yachting or gangsters who were 17. Selling coke on the streets in New York. One or the other. The extra extra larges went to one section and the mediums went somewhere else. Depended where they were sending it. Yeah, that's the thing. But tonight we're going to go back to the mid to late 90s for our subject and we are going to find,

we're going to go see the big dog, Glenn Robinson. Oh, what? Remember Glenn Robinson? Glenn was an asshole? He had some issues. Glenn's had a couple issues. God damn it.

Glenn's had a couple issues. He's got an interesting family. It goes on. Oh, you know what? I was thinking of a different glenn i'm not thinking of the big dog i was thinking of glenn rice you're talking about glenn robinson from the box yeah yeah glenn robinson yeah not glenn rice not the big dog yeah he is a glenn allen robinson junior it starts every time why why oh? Why do you do this to us? Why do they do it?

Why is it so perplexing that every one of our goddamn athletes is a junior, names their kid junior? What's the percentage? Figure it out. Somebody do the research. It's got to be in the upper 40s, low 50s, right? That's crazy. It's at least half that are juniors or named their kid junior.

It's absolutely unholy. I'll bet Ann named them juniors is in 60s crazy if you know either or it's got to be at least half though it's crazy but big dog is his is his name i do remember that if you saw him dawg right uh well i mean it depended on who was printing the t-shirt honestly it depended but either way he was uh he's a big giant guy he's you know six foot eight six foot nine and uh weight is who knows yeah and it fluctuated Either way, he's a big, giant guy. He's 6'8", 6'9". Weight is... Who knows? And it fluctuated.

It would be like in wrestling if it was a masked guy. Parts unknown, weight unknown, and they just show on the chyron on the screen is three question marks under weight. We don't know. Anywhere from 240 to, I don't know, three something. He's a big guy. And it seemed to really fluctuate. I don't know, three-something. He's a big guy.

Yeah. And it seemed to really fluctuate. He wore his jersey kind of baggy to hide the level of fluctuation that was happening that week, from what I remember. He just tucked the bottom seam. Yeah, that's all it was. And it just dangled in front. Like, it's all good. Shit, I got another, what, five trips to the buffet to fill in the rest of this jersey. So I'm okay.

I'm good. The big dog, born January 10th, 1973. So, you know, from that era. Born in Gary, Indiana. He's from Gary, Indiana, which Gary's a rough spot. It's been a rough spot kind of always. And we're kind of outside of Chicago. I guess it's weird to say that because it's in Indiana.

But the way the states line up, if you're not from here, it's close to Chicago. So the Jacksons were beaten for years. Exactly exactly and they compare him to the jacks really yeah that's because it's like him and the jacksons are from gary and there's other people but they're the big ones and especially when he was because in college and shit he was beast he was a beast he was like the undisputed number one overall draft pick guy of the you know the lebron of his day not a right out of high school guy but right he was that kind of guy there and uh i found some interesting stuff on that hard to find a lot of shit on his childhood really some stuff on his dad um that we'll talk about because his dad gets in the news himself quite a bit uh for his for his outings and activities we we'll say, here.

But I found an article on SI.com here where they did, back when he was going to get drafted into the NBA, they did kind of a background on him. And very interesting. His mom's name is Christine. And Christine was in her teens when Glenn was born. So not married to her father. His father.

His father. How much stereotypes are going on in Indiana? I hope she's not married to her father. She's married to her. So she's not to her father. Everybody. So that's a plus or his father. She's married to no one's father at the time. Or anyone else for that matter.

No one who has a son or doesn't have a son or daughter. So, yeah, she's unmarried when Glenn is born. But she is, her mom, his mom is no joke. His mom is like a small person, not like a little person. What are you doing today? What is happening? Oh, God. His mom is a dwarf who's married to her own father.

That's what we've established so far. I don't think any of that's true. Imagine if we just made up the story. That makes it much more interesting of why he's a 6'8 power forward whose weight fluctuates between God only knows and God only knows. I thought his eyes were a little close together jesus christ this is uh this is really weird man short arms long torso you know because so uh yeah no her mom his mom is is a badass his mom controls him and uh and the

whole family and uh on her own. She's very tough. He doesn't mess with his mom. He won't listen to coaches and things like that, but he'll listen to his mom. If his mom yells at him, he's like, yes, ma'am. And he's doing it, whatever the hell she wants. She also went to Roosevelt High in Gary, which is where

he ends up going here. Now his father, Glenn Robinson Sr. here, he's known on the street and as they say in the paper as this one article known to the police as red cap oh boy that's his uh nickname here old glenn red cap robinson which is not as cool as big dog no it's not it's just he gets arrested wearing a red hat a lot yeah and they're like is that fucking red cap red cap dumb mother the cops call him that nobody else calls him that the guy with the red cat it's the same fucking guy every time he's the only guy with a red hat walking around committing crimes

constantly it's either him or fred durst pick him up pick him up pick him up or trump either way they're up to something i'm just kidding i have no idea i'm just kidding but so yeah she wanted her son to go there too right to her high school she she she's hooked up with red cap here and this guy is really uh they date back to 1973 with a long line of arrests from what we found in a couple different articles here uh most of them are drug related uh he's got arrested the year glenn is born 1973 so congratulations to him uh yeah they red cap uh he uh he was i think 21 when glenn was born he's a few years older than glenn's mom and then he just takes off okay after a while he never really was around much anyway in the in the beginning it's not like he was there oh you need to go out and

get the diapers right now like he wasn't there anyway he was getting arrested and shit like that but then he completely disappears uh shortly after when glenn's a toddler so that's that he's gonna reappear he'll be back don't worry don't worry we haven't heard the last of glenn senior oh yeah there's he's gonna haunt glenn his whole life here as it just keeps coming up it's fucked up it's like in college and there's like la times reporters like going so your father's wanted right now it's like can i just play basketball i just want to dunk for christ's sake you know yeah so uh christine raises raises glenn alone here and uh gary like we said is uh high crime rate kind of a dangerous city especially in the 70s and 80s it was as. It was a mess there as far as that goes.

It was tough in a low-income area of the city, too, especially. High homicide rate, that sort of thing. His father, Glenn Sr., continues to get arrested through his childhood. He gets arrested in 1978 for some marijuana possession, also for being a common nuisance. Red cap's a fucking nuisance. Look at him. They arrested him for that. Common nuisance.

That's enough of you, sir. We've had enough. He's just a nuisance. Can we put him in jail? We can? Wow. We can just put him in jail for being a nuisance. Awesome.

Jesus, he's annoying everybody. Sir, you've been annoying everybody. It's enough of your annoyances, sir. Enough, yes. In Indiana, apparently, common nuisance is actually shorthand. It's legal for a house where narcotics, it's like a crack house, basically. A very loose narcotics house they call keeping a common nuisance. So the house is a common nuisance. And he runs it. And he runs it. So he's like the engine keeping a common nuisance yeah so the house is a common nuisance

and he runs it and he runs it so he's like the new the engine of the common right yeah so he keeps it going he's like the wings of the mosquito yeah pretty much yeah it's just going so uh that that's what happens there uh obviously this he's not a great influence yeah on glenn i don't imagine this is one of those that we always say, and we've had it happen every different way on this show. Sure. Is it better for the father to stick around, beat the shit out of everybody within arm's length, fuck up the kid like that, or just disappear into the night, never to be seen

again? Which is better? We haven't figured it out yet. It's tough. It's tough. It happens. Seems to be equally fucked up both ways. And on top of that, sticking around and being too involved is also a problem.

So there's a really fine line. I don't want Red Cap around him, though. No, Red Cap, he needs to be away from Red Cap here. It's funny. Later on, there'll be articles that say, like father, not like son. It's literally an LA Times article called, like father, not like son. Like, Jesus. How bad of a piece of shit do you got to be when when when your son does well they got it they're gonna just talk

about how much a monster you are especially when you're it's just funny because no one would know who you are you wouldn't be in national publications everybody's calling you a fuck up unless your kid like unless now your kid does something well and now that just puts a spotlight on what an idiot you are that's hilarious so yeah the uh she moves close enough to uh to her high school that she went to so glenn could go there too roosevelt high and uh he wasn't a as big as he was he wasn't a guy that was that they took aside in the sixth grade and said you're going to be in the nba let. Let's be nice to you. Looking back, I don't see him being very athletic in the first place.

I mean, he is. He has, when they did the scouting shit, he's got a 34-inch vertical jumper. Does he really? For a guy his size, that is outstanding. That's crazy. That's outstanding for a man his size. I mean, that's like him and Barkley

are like those freak heavy guys that just had sick vertical jumps anyway. Imagine if they lost him. I always, that's like him and Barkley are like those freak heavy guys that just had sick vertical jumps. Anyway, imagine if they lost him. I always thought that about Barkley. Imagine if Barkley dropped 30 pounds. He'd have a 50-inch vertical jump. That extra 30 pounds has to be holding him down, and he had a 40-inch vertical jump

or some crazy shit. I always thought about that when I was a kid. But he comes up, and he's not a real good basketball player he doesn't even go out for the seventh grade team when he gets to junior high because he didn't think he was good enough so that's how uh that's how not you know dominant he was or not nobody nobody like i said nobody took him aside we're like listen yeah it's gonna be an easy road for you you are surely gifted with this yeah he's he's not one of those guys. We've had countless ones of those guys.

But one of his coach here, Roosevelt's coach, Ron Heflin, said, quote, I had two fat little managers, a pair of twins who used to outplay him when he was in the fourth or fifth grade. He wasn't very good. People don't understand how hard that kid worked. He hasn't always been a polished ball player. So he did have to put a lot into it. Athletically, he's a big, giant guy who's pretty athletically gifted, but basketball is still a skill game.

You can't just be big and pick up a ball and douche people who are skilled will take it away from you. Hand-eye coordination is everything. Yeah. It matters a lot. And it's so just a matter of repetition and seeing the peripheral vision and people and okay, plays, people are here, they're there, not throwing it to the wrong guy.

Your depth perception is fucking everything. Yeah, it's all of that here. But so he keeps trying and makes the JV squad as a freshman, junior varsity. And as a sophomore, he makes the varsity team. So, I mean, it's not like I said, he's not even like on the varsity team as a freshman, which most of these guys are on the varsity team in the seventh grade that we talk about so i mean he's he's a late bloomer when it comes to that he uh apparently did in his uh during his sophomore season when he's on varsity he gets some bad grades one quarter and his mom freaks out and goes into the coach's office and said that glenn can't play

anymore until his grades improve yeah so that was her and that was on her the school didn't say that that was her she's right they fell below her standards uh and i guess she was super pissed and raging and uh the coach said quote she looked right up and said glenn do you understand me and she said uh he said quote you couldn't help laughing at how this little woman had control of him. He just was sitting there with his head down. Yeah. Okay. I won't play basketball.

It's pretty funny. So eventually, though, he becomes a dominant force in his junior and senior year here. Basically, over the three years he's there, the basketball team goes 73 and 7. Wow. It's pretty impressive. Yeah. They win a state championship. He's a bad man, basically.

He also wins the Mr. Basketball Indiana title. How about that? Which, in Indiana, that's a very coveted thing, that Mr. Basketball. That's the Larry Bird. That's the Larry Bird award right there that you're getting. So that's, yeah. The French lick your asshole for that. Oof.

From three-point range. From three-point range, Jimmy. They will absolutely French lick your asshole for that. So, yeah, 73 and 7 here. He said when he's coming out of high school, he was upset that people said that Gary's a shithole. So everybody would be like, yeah, he's from the shithole, Gary. That was every article. so everybody would be like yeah he's from the shithole gary that was every article like from the smokestacks and the you know dead bodies that line the streets next to the of course next to the

broken crack vials they're there first and then the bodies fall atop of them and then more crack vials fall atop of the bodies it's very sad this part that was every article and the untalented jacksons that joe threw off a mountain. Yeah, you know there's like four or five other Jacksons. There's gotta be. I want, wherever they lived, I want that house excavated. Because underneath it, like John Wayne Gacy style, there is most certainly like four kids who just couldn't get that skip change fucking shuffle down. On the forecast!

God damn it! God damn it, the fork! Fuck! No! He's singing here, you're here! Do you understand me? God damn it. God damn it, the four. No. He's singing here, you're here. Do you understand me? You're supposed to be here. Where the fuck do you think Tito is then?

Jesus Christ. God. And he throws him off in a mountain like a discarded Asian girl. Are they girls that they throw? Yeah, they throw her around. Next thing you know, he's like jermaine dig another hole jermaine's like damn it we're gonna keep you in the band if you keep digging should i just dig two latoya's fucking useless right i'll dig two she's eventually no all right

i don't know she seemed to like her for some reason. I don't know. Whatever. Figured she'd be going down. Nothing makes me happier than picturing Joe Jackson discarding the untalented Jackson. I don't know why. It's hilarious. That's so miserable, but so funny. My question is, did he do it all at once? Yeah. Or did he get like, well, like, did they have a conference, him and his wife, and they were like, listen, four of these aren't going to make it.

Like, four of them aren't making it. We've given them all until this age, and I think we've picked out the five that are worth it. Janet will keep around, too. I don't know. She's not ready yet, but I feel like she's got potential. Latoya, she's on the fence. But these four, we're not going to need them. Or did, as it became clear they were untalented did he discard them one at a

time i feel like it'd be easier to just dig one big trench under the house yeah you know for germaine you can't keep sending germaine down there he's gonna hurt his back he's gotta get dancing yeah it's beautiful it is beautiful i gotta tell you right now it never happened but we know well with michael they were like i don't know he's just fucking weird i think and then he let out of his voice and they were like hold on wait jimmy put the shovel down he sings like a fucking angel hold on a minute fucking weird a dad calling his son fucking weird i pictured him like three years old just looking up all sweet michael jackson was a cute was an adorable little black cherub.

Looking up, this little cute face, big old afro. His dad just going, I don't know about this one. He's fucking weird. He's fucking weird. And then he's just, I'll be there. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. Slow down.

Hold on. Way to tick. Alphabet one more to ABC. Talk about, okay. Never mind. Hold on, Jermaine. Put the shovel down big deal ticket you guys guys spell it no seriously guys watch him no tito i'm serious

especially you yeah especially you know life's gonna be hard for you wait till you see what your face turns into hook your hook it right here that's what i'm saying this is your this is your guy i I don't know. As long as he'll fucking have you around. Do I have to do everything? Dig the goddamn hole. Joe Jackson. He's a monster.

Angry 60s Joe Jackson. So Glenn Robinson, though, about Gary. He knows nothing where the unwanted Jackson children are buried. He says, quote, people come to Gary expecting to be shot. gary he knows nothing where where the unwanted jackson children are buried he says quote people come to gary expecting to be shot you hear a lot of bad things about gary but a lot of people who say those things have never been there right because the ones who've been there have been shot right so they can't they can't speak they can't speak on so these are people that have like i heard from well my friend went there and was shot on the first day so that's why i heard from

a friend who died being shot there. He shot there. As he was dying, he was like, don't come to Gary. You get shot here. And he went down. This place is a motherfucker. I'm going to go ahead and believe him, I think. I think he knows.

Put some trust in that guy. That's right. He said, yeah, there's a bad side of Gary. It is a tough side of town. He said, you know, it's tough. He said, quote, it's just like anywhere else. If you mind your business and don't get caught up in a lot of BS on the streets, then you'll be fine. There's two sides of the street, he says.

You can choose to be on one side of the street or you can choose to go to the other side. I get along with people on both sides of the street. Okay. That's the most obvious thing that's ever been said. Go unpack that. Yeah, there's a bad side with bad people, and then there's good people. And so you could choose to be bad, or you could choose to be good. I choose to get along with everybody, which made no sense.

I don't have to choose either. I don't have to choose either. I get along with everybody because I'm good at basketball, apparently. I don't understand how. Because it's me and the Jacksons. It's me and the Jacksons. Everybody else. So, yeah, he said that's what it is.

So they go to the 90-91, his best high school team. He makes the game-winning shot in the regionals. Really? And made the game-winning shot in the semifinals as well. Wow. And in that game, he schooled Alan Henderson, who went to Indiana and then ended up in the NBA after that. He's another forward. I don't even see his face.

He was kind of nondescript, honestly. He wasn't that great. But at Indiana, he was a pretty good force on the Hoosiers there for a while. And that was in the state championship, so they won that in 1991. He is Mr. Basketball Indiana and also shares the National High School Player of the Year Award, or honor, or whatever it is. Whoa, yeah. Share, share.

That was a real stretch. Hold on, Jimmy. He sat there for a second. What did I say? What's the matter? What are you doing with me? I think you just tore your rotator cuff recently for that one. You better take you to the doctor.

Share, that's the face I saw. We're going to have to load you into the town and country and take you to the hospital after that to get you an MRI because I think it's going to be a long recovery road. That's right. We'll put the seat down. Just lay across the back. I'll drive.

Don't worry about it. Benny and Frankie, climb in. Keep me company back here. They will. They'll love on you. Who's he share it with? He shares it with Chris Webber. Chris Webber was from Indiana, too?

No, no, no. It's national. Oh, national. That's what you said. It's American. Chris Webber's from Michigan, but it's National Player of the Year honor. So it's him and Chris Webber, the two best in the entire United States. He's on the 1991 McDonald's All-America team, which is a big, giant deal.

And if you're on that team, at least then, now it's a totally different thing. Now there's all these different AAU teams and all this shit. But back then, that was like, hey, this is the cream of the crop, gold star recruits to every college. Have a gander at these guys because you're going to be watching them the next at least year. Here's the top 20 high school players in the country is what it was. And we'll go over the list of these guys quick. And some people who don't care for the sports or whatever we'll get through in a second can i go on that this is kind of interesting well we'll talk about it on one team this is the east roster was uh sharone right uh who went to clemson uh donald williams

who went to north carolina david vaughn went to memphis uh donyell marshall's remember he ended up going to yukon uh james forest went to wake forest what probablyell Marshall, if you remember, he ended up going to UConn. James Forrest went to Wake Forest. What? Probably just for the... Why did he do that? I'm going to do it. God damn it. I'm going to Wake Forest.

They're like, come on, bro. It's all right. Ben Davis goes to Arizona. Rick Brunson of Temple. Travis Best of Georgia Tech. Corey Alexander of Virginia. Let's see.

The West is Chris Webber. Listen to this squad. Chris Weber, Jalen Rose, Glenn Robinson, Juwan Howard. What? Dude, that's a crazy squad. Three of those guys went to Michigan. Yeah, that's a future NBA all-star team. Cherokee Parks, who went to Duke, who was in the NBA forever.

He hung on here. Calvin Rayford, Jimmy King, who went to Michigan, was a good player there. Alan Henderson, who was a great player. So that's a squad right there. Was Juwan Howard on Michigan? Did he play Michigan? Yeah, yeah. He was one of the Fab Five, right?

So they have three of the Fab Five. Three of the Fab Five and throw Big Dog in there, which isn't too shabby. And Cherokee Parks for your sixth man and Alan Henderson also at the forward. Unreal. It's not too shabby of a squad. They had a guard they are bumping they'd have it going they got all the rebounds yeah no they have the whole front court is covered and Jalen Rose is your guard so that's something here uh there is a uh at the high school there there's a there's life-size photos of all the players from uh uh from the championship team there. It's a big deal.

And one of the students, while they're doing an article on him when he's going to go to college, one of the students points at Robinson and says, the next Michael J. So that's what the kids are thinking. Jackson? What are you doing? Yeah, the next Michael Jackson.

You should see his spin. He does a spin crotch grab that's really impressive. And three of his brothers are buried under his house. So we think he's the real deal. You think he can make it. That's pressure. Never compare Glenn Robinson to Michael Jordan. Jesus Christ.

That's pressure. When your dad's saying, sing, and your older brother's standing there with a shovel over his shoulder. That's a lot of pressure. You know what happened to your other. You used to have six brothers or eight brothers or whatever. I need the pickaxe. I'm going down to the caliche you're going deep we're running out of room down there it's not a big house we're not a we're not a wealthy family we have to bury our kids with you know elbow grease we're making the most vicious character

of joe jackson ever well somehow we're making him vicious i was gonna say i don't think it's possible whatever we're saying about him that's clearly a joke but whatever we're saying it's probably not as bad as really living with joe jackson as a child honestly let's be fucking honest here i mean what it sounds like is the threat of death seemed pretty fucking real whether there's a shovel in jermaine's hand or not jermaine let us know by the way if you were forced to bury your siblings under the house because if you were i think joe's dead now so you can come out and tell us there's no way that the statistics are a hundred percent of them are successful that's impossible let's make let's make a deal with joe with jermaine can we make like prosecutors in gary indiana and possibly los angeles county once they moved i'm not sure all can we make a deal of immunity for jermaine jackson for his sibling burials if he comes out

and and says that joe jackson actually had him bury all his siblings under the house or wherever if you're in the woods i don't, I don't know. I don't know. Wherever he put them. That's fine. Because just statistically, it's fucking impossible. It's interesting here. So Glenn Robinson is so recruited. It's ridiculous.

He's a highly, obviously, it's the top two players in the country and that sort of thing. National Basketball Player of the Year here. Could have gone anywhere he wants. Every school is recruiting him. national basketball player of the year here could have gone anywhere he wants every school was recruiting him he's he wants to either go to purdue indiana with bobby knight minnesota tennessee also uh but he said those were a little too far uh for him he wanted to be closer to home which is never a good choice as we know uh there he he visited indiana actually and i guess he was with an assistant coach and uh they were they were watching some

film and they're asking glenn as they do like what do you see and shit like that and glenn had his feet up on a desk and bobby knight came in the room and yelled hey get your feet off the desk at him and knight said he was joking but he was not sure that glenn understood he was joking because he's just kind of a sensitive shy kid he says he didn't think so and we've seen you throw chairs you and it's bobby knight so right away he's a kid and bobby knight yelled at me he's like oh shit i'm already he already hates me and i literally haven't met him yet he just like laid eyes on me and uh bobby knight says he thinks that he lost him because of that because of the joke like to this to you know 10

years later he was like glenn robinson didn't come to indiana because i yelled at him and joked and he didn't know i was joking how about so that's what he thinks yeah so that's the thing so he decides to go to purdue see the point when when you're not a comic and you're not a funny guy that's the thing stop trying to be funny stop trying to be funny you dick well when just a really really angry guy goes hey get your feet off the desk right think you don't think hilarious wow what a joker i've seen you on tv scaring the shit out of people way bigger than you right so no i don't want to fucking be a part of this i'm gonna go somewhere nicer i wouldn't want to play for i've seen you uh gamble with losing your job by throwing all the shit on the

sideline onto the court i read a book about the the i think it's the 86 seasons david halberstram i think wrote it and he wrote he's wrote a ton of good books no it wasn it wasn't Halberstram. I don't remember who the hell wrote it. It's about like the 86 Hoosiers. It's a very famous book, and I'm completely blanking on it right now. Bobby Knight's a lunatic. He's way worse than you would ever even think he is. I believe it.

It's not one of these, like, when you read about him, you go, oh, I get him a little more. Now you go, Jesus, what an even bigger asshole. They just covered a lot of shit up for this asshole. It's what an even bigger asshole. They just covered a lot of shit up for this asshole. It's just the way it is. They just covered a lot of shit up for him. So he chooses Purdue and goes there. So his freshman year, he's all ready to go.

But he is forced to sit out his freshman year. Why? Due to Proposition 48, which is low test scores. Oh, he's a dummy. Which means he can't go. So he's not allowed to do that. So he says that... He's academically ineligible.

Academically ineligible. He says that everybody was trying to say like, hey, it'll be good for you. You can get used to college life for a year so it's not all at once getting thrown in. Like when you learn to drive, you don't want to learn on a stick shift. You want to learn how to steer the car, learn how the gas works,

and then fucking figure out how to shift gears. But all at once, it's too much to figure out. It's a lot. It's harder. It's much harder. So let everybody think you're a dummy and then come back. Hey, dude. Oh, Jesus.

Be an idiot. Why don't you? But his friends all said he was actually embarrassed by it because yeah later on they would chant sats at him in other schools too he when he'd go to the foul line they'd chant sat out that was that was the you know foul line fucking whatever razzing razzing yeah shaking those tubes around thunder sticks s.a.t to the beat of the thunder sticks s.a.t so uh yeah he didn't like that one of the purdue players said quote i think it was harder on him than he'll ever admit so that was yeah yeah he says too that uh he was really depressed when he got to college

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Yeah, oh, just, he's not even chewing them. No. There's just some residual gummy worm from the last mouthful. He just hasn't shoved, he'll shove it in there later when he gets hungry again. Just dripping chunky monkey all over his carpet. It's not a good thing. Hey, everybody. Just going to take a quick break from the show

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So he says that I freezer full of fish food. Oh, that's it. He said, quote, I almost gave up and went home. That's how bad he felt. He said, I looked in the mirror and I had this big old stomach and I never lost it. He never isn't that by added the end part, but it's what he should have said because he never lost it. He says, I had

this big old belly. See? See? Look at it. It was hanging. There it is. You can't tell under that jersey. I do a good job of tucking it, right? Big guys know how to tuck those jerseys. They do. He would be miserable now. Oh, God. Those uniforms are like so tight. You have to be like jacked to not look like a dumpy fuck now. Back then, he would have just been like,

I'm not playing in the NBA. This is ridiculous. There was a guy in the NBA. I don't know who he is, but the poor fuck has a T-shirt of hair. That's so bad. It's the worst chest and shoulder hair that I've ever seen. I feel so bad for him

because the jerseys are so fucking revealing. They show everything. It makes you feel like a piece of shit. It's just more comfortable though, bigger jerseys and shorts. It's just more comfortable. And this poor guy's got to be out there being like, I'm a fucking millionaire for this. Look at me.

For this embarrassment. I look like a Greek tourist on vacation in the new jersey shore in this goddamn thing i take off now now i leave tank top on i leave on i don't burn on my back neck i want burn i want to look good it's so fucking embarrassing now i not shave it protect me from sun somebody knows who I'm talking about. We're going to get so many tweets about it. Back hair, SPF natural 185.

Very good. It's so dark, too. The shawarma man at the beach and shit. Oh, Jesus. There's so much hair. It's so embarrassing. I know who you're talking about, too. So, Jesus Christ, man.

You've got millions, bro. Get it laser. Get your shit fixed. Stop it it or just shave it yeah do something don't force us to look at that weird shit while you're at the foul line or the close-up anthony davis i mean it was gonna stare to a camera with 130 million dollars contract or whatever with the fucking no he didn't he looked like a goddamn lunatic i wanted to see some like 91 pound five foot one asian girl yeah bounce out of a salon and tackle him to the ground and start ripping it out one by one not even charge him just run up behind him at the foul line smear

wax on it and fucking rip it off i can't take it anymore jermaine get the shovel poor jermaine unbelievable so he says though everyone was insensitive to him at this point he said people would tell me you've got to get you've got to get eligible so you can play they never asked me how i was or how my family was they weren't concerned about anything like that yeah yeah because this is business right that's college basketball's business that's the ncaa is business. That's college basketball's business. The NCAA is a horrible, terrible business. We're not friends, bro. No.

You work for us. But you actually don't work for us. No, no, no, no, no. You're a student. Student athlete. I'm sorry. You don't work for us. No, no.

If we worked for us, then we'd have to pay you and give you insurance and shit like that. But no, no. You don't work for us. You contribute to a thing. Jermaine, get the shovel. He said he works for us. He said the W word. We can't have it. He needs to go under the house.

That's a shovel moment right there because that is not like that. And he has a really good point later on when he's pissed at the NCAA. So 92-93, he finally gets to play for Purdue. Before he plays, though, this is when he gets the nickname the Big Dog. Not in high school. It's before he starts playing. In his freshman year, one of the school's custodians, some old dude, started calling him Big Dog. And that's everybody called him Big Dog.

And he liked the name Big Dog because it sounded cool. So he has a tattoo on his chest with a bulldog wearing a spike collar. He's the big dog. Like the Hoyas? Kind of, I guess. But I think it's trying to meaner looking. I think it's got teeth. Teeth and shit.

Yeah, it's snarling and shit. I'm a mean Hoya. So 92-93, they go 18-10 Purdue. They lose to Rhode Island in the first round. I think that was LMR playing back then? I don't know. On Rhode Island, possibly? I'm not sure.

I can't name two players that went to Rhode Island. Yeah, there's not a lot there. I'll be honest. I can't name one. Thank you, Jimmy. You played for the Expos. Don't worry about it. I don't even know if Odom went there.

He was on the Royals. Don't worry about it. I don't know either now. Or did he go to Providence? No, he didn't go to Providence. I think it was Rhode Island. I wouldn't have no fucking idea. I don't remember.

God damn it. So I should have looked that up, but then who would have thought? Anyway, Glenn here, he plays in 28 games, plays 36 minutes a game here in his first year here. 24 points a game, nine rebounds. Not too shabby. Two steals, 1.2 blocks. That's great.

Almost two assists. He's nasty. Yeah, he's ridiculous. He's really good. He's a national sensation. Back in Gary, everybody's excited. A friend of his says, quote, a friend of his named Rayfield. That's his first name.

Oh, boy. That's a cool old man. That's a tough man. That's an old man name there. I'm Rayfield. Yep, he's seen some shit. I cool old man. That's an old man name there. I'm Rayfield. He's seen some shit. I've been working in the iron factory for the last 47 years. Don't you call me Ray.

My name is Rayfield. And you keep calling me that. You call me Mr. Fisher, as a matter of fact. That's who he is, Rayfield Fisher. He says, quote, when Glenn plays, all the TVs and Gary are on. Everybody here owns Glenn. He's our Glenn Robinson. So that's how they're looking at him.

He's the town's hope, basically. They said that this guy says that Glenn represents something to Gary that Michael Jackson chose not to represent. What is that? They're pissed at Michael Jackson. Quote, a lot of people are disappointed because the Jacksons didn't do anything for Gary. I don't care if they don't give any money to the city but they won't even come back to visit the impression is i get i get is they're ashamed of it a person should never forget where he came from now have you ever seen neverland ranch yeah it's fucking amazing why go back i would i wouldn't remember that gary

indiana existed if i lived there existed i'd be like where am i i'm from here i've never left this property it's amazing what are you talking about but on the other hand who's saying that they forgot maybe they remember and they were like that place fucking sucks and i'm not going back but uh so they're at they're angry though at the jacksons for just leaving gary behind uh but people know what gary is because of the jacksons so whether they leave it behind or not i put it on the map it's the only reason i know what it is because of the Jackson. So whether they leave it behind or not, I put it on the map. It's the only reason I know what it is. Right away.

You said Jackson's boom like that. So it's one of those things, but they think that Glenn Robinson is going to represent Gary to the fullest after his sophomore freshman year here. He's so good that people start to speculate that he's going to turn pro now early. So they're like, yeah,

I think he's going to leave. But he says that he's going to turn pro now, early. So they're like, yeah, they think he's going to leave. But he says that he's not going to. He says that he does say, though, quote, I guarantee you if the Pro Scouts selected the All-Americas, I'd have been on the first team. Because this year he doesn't make first team All-America. So they think he's going to want to come back for a second season to make first team All-America.

America. So they think he's going to want to come back for a second season to make first team all America. So he says, though, he that it was the getting losing in the first round of the tournament that made him want to come back. He said, I felt we really didn't accomplish anything. I felt we would I would have left left my teammates hanging if I had gone out on that note. He says, naturally, you don't want to leave your friends. That's the main reason I didn't leave. Also, I felt last year I wasn't mature yet. I wasn't ready to go off into that big world yet out there you have to be able to deal with girls agents people trying to give you drugs all that stuff one morning i'll wake up and know it's time well i mean that's a mature way of looking at it normally they're like i can't wait to have girls and agents and people trying to give me drugs this is going to be awesome

how soon can i do that exactly because that's when i was 19 i think that's how i would have thought somebody already told me that shit exists and that's great too that's the other thing yeah but i mean right i would have been like that sounds awesome at 19 so that's more mature so that's good stuff here uh at one point a an agent told his high school coach that he was going to visit his mother and his stepfather who's a guy named jesse mack who lives with his mom and uh the the coach told the agent that that was a good way to get shot they're very private leave them alone like his stepdad will shoot you off the porch which is a you know interesting uh they're apparently very they they tried to contact this uh jesse mac at his appliance repair store that he owns and he said quote we're not into interviews i'm real

busy and hung up on them not interested in any of this shit basically i don't want to talk about they don't want to deal with agents or any of that shit they're just like you know drugs i don't want to talk that's it yeah i don't want to are you an agent you got girls and drugs i know that's what you got goodbye that's it so uh the mother was very protective of him through this process 93 94 he comes back team has a better year for 29 and 5 that year they beat central florida 98 67 in the first round of the tournament they beat alabama 83 73 in the second round of the tournament they beat number four overall seed seed Kansas 83-78. And then they finally lose to Duke, who was No. 2 overall. Duke was nasty in the mid-'90s.

Nothing to be ashamed of there. Consistent, too. Yeah, 69-60. And he was so good. Like I said, this is where they measured him at 34-inch of a vertical leap. An Ohio State center named Gerald Eaker said that, quote, when he jumped and dunked on him, quote, I didn't expect him to elevate that high. He got the ball in the lane and he kept going up and up.

There's really no way to guard him. All you try to do is contain him. I never played against anybody like that. So that's the type of guy he is. He's a man among boys here. So it's at this point that the L.A. Times decides to run an article about his dad being a scumbag. Because, you know, why not? Now.

Now. So this is the one that's, I think this is the like father, not like son or whatever the hell it is here. So they talk about he lately has been in a lot of trouble. They said, quote, the elder Robinson's felony problems began on October 4th, 1992. robinson's felony problems began on october 4th 1992 which is how the article starts here uh when he's uh he stopped for a traffic violation and uh was allegedly quote allegedly had uh several packets of cocaine and heroin in his car in the armrest there so uh several several of both of both jimmy you don't want to get too high on one that's the thing you get too low you get too high you got to be able to balance yourself out.

Yeah. He's a man of, this is the thing, he's a man of moderation. That's what he does. He's like a little cocaine, a little heroin. Yeah. They go together. Okay. You balance.

All right. Jesus Christ. You're looking at me like he's not a good guy, like he's not smart. This is smart. He's smart thinking. What are you thinking here? He was taken into custody. Apparently, it was weird.

They held his samples of cocaine and heroin. Smart. Smart thinking. What are you thinking here? He was taken into custody. Apparently, it was weird. They held his samples of cocaine and heroin. They were tested in a state police lab in October 1993, and then he was charged with the felonies formally in January 1994. How many felonies? So it's two. Two felonies. Possession of each and whatever. The court declared him to be indigent, which means he's got no money he can't pay for an attorney and uh they gave him a public defender uh he couldn't

make his five thousand dollars bail so he was in county lockup still and that's what they were like that's when like the la times wanted to talk to him so your son's a big basketball star and you're a fuck-up huh they put a microphone in his face what do you think of that how are your felonies how's that how's felonies doing here uh so it's it's pretty amazing here he says that uh two days before the uh the the uh the hearing they they got to talk to him he said quote uh if glenn doesn't know i'm in here then i don't want to talk to a reporter i don't know why that if gl doesn't know, I guess I don't want Glenn to find out I'm in here through a reporter. OK, maybe that's what he means. Yeah, I think that's exactly what it means.

Yeah. But apparently, though, he does say that they find out that Glenn didn't know he was in there at this time, but they have talked to each other through his jail stints. Apparently, at one point, they said that Glenn had sent a lawyer to help him out. Now, that's kind of funny that, I mean, you could say shit here, but obviously a college student probably can't afford a lawyer. So a college student got somebody, alumni from Purdueue who's a lawyer to go over and help his dad i assume that seems a little more plausible yeah probably not within ncaa regulations either here uh so apparently one of the family friend they speak to says that glenn recently saw his father on the streets but had to turn away from him because he was a mess really yeah he had to

like walk away here saw him and saw him out on the streets wandering around being a fucking crackhead i guess apparently uh so they said even the guy even said he even went into a slump in basketball for a few games after that it depressed him uh so we don't know if that's true or not but uh they a reporter said that uh when they were talking to glenn robinson for an, they said they wanted to talk about his real father, too, because Glenn just referred to Jesse Mack as his dad, and Glenn didn't want him mentioned at all. He's like, don't talk about my dad. And they were like, oh, but that's such a good story.

But can we please? Oh, but come on. He's been arrested so many times. So many times. Why do we have access to all these police records if we don't do this? We've been looking for you, and we find nothing but him. Yeah, that's... Jesus. One of his friends says about glenn and his dad quote he loves and respects him that's

uh glenn loves his dad and respects him he would love to have him around he respects him as a father and i know that he cares for his father he has no grudges i'd say he'd love to see him straighten out his life and then his old basketball coach says he cares for his real dad, but he also cares for his mom, his stepdad, his teammates, his coaches. Glenn is a very sensitive kid. So that's how everybody kind of describes him, is he's like a sensitive kid. Yeah.

The end of this article is hilarious, by the way. The last couple sentences is the corniest shit. It's such an article like this. Quote, somewhere he's out there, the old man that is, if he's smart, one day Robinson Sr. will follow the lead

of Robinson Jr. He'll join his son on the right side of the street where people are good. That's literally the last, yeah. But why? Glenn can be over there and be friends

with the other people too. Yeah, Glenn can do both. He can cross the street and be friends with his dad's friends. That's right. Why can't we all intermingle? What the fuck?

So his year here, junior year, I guess it is, 93-94 at Purdue, where they went to the tournament deep there. He played in 34 games, 30.3 points a game, and 10 rebounds. And two assists, one and a half steals, about a block a game. 30 and 10 doesn't happen a lot in college. That's some dominant shit. So, yeah, people treat him like he is, you know, the next Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or some shit,

or the next Shaq or whatever at that time. I'm trying to think of who Shaq would have been around for like three years, so he was a big deal. He says, Glenn says, quote, I'm just regular like y'all. I'm a normal person, but if I go out to the mall, people stare at me. If I walk past someone someone i'll look out of the corner of my eye and i'll see them all turn around little kids follow me sometimes but there's nothing wrong with that uh because you're huge too

people are like damn that guy's enormous yeah he's six foot nine like 280 pounds he's enormous so much man it's just a giant human being. So if anything, that's another reason to stare if they don't know who he is. For, I guess, during this interview, there's a photographer there that's asking him to take his shirt off to show his tattoo. And he says he's not sure if he wants to do that or not. So he's got boundaries already as a kid, as a young man. He says, quote, See, it's hard to stay normal when I go out. It's not like how I am around here. When I'm out in public, I'm very quiet.

I like to keep to myself. I really don't like to talk to a lot of people. But, you know, that's just me. So he's a different kind of guy. It's a little different than most of the people here. And on January 8th, 1994, right around the time his dad gets formally charged with cocaine and heroin possession, he has a son of his own. Oh, my God. A son of his own here with a woman named Chantel Clay, who is a freshman at the University of Purdue University here.

The son is born very premature. Oh, no. And he's only three pounds when he's born. Oh, shit. So very young. But he names him glenn the third let's have another let's have some more juniors god damn it this story doesn't have enough glenn robinson in it jermaine get the shovel this is crazy shit so yeah he spends the

first two years of his life uh in the uh inator, obviously, until he gets to be about six pounds. And so, you know, not an easy start for this kid here and for Glenn's child. By three, though, he's in the Hammond, Indiana YMCA Children's Basketball League. Oh, wow. Glenn III, yeah. By what? Age three. He's in a league. he's in a league he's in a league

now the ball is barely they can there's barely enough room for a three-year-old to dribble the ball it's just a little one i would hope so it's gotta be and the hoop's gotta be lower the hoop's gotta be low what is this at three there's nobody popping you know 10 foot hoop jumpers at three years old they just're just very slim class of kids. Are they playing on a little tykes? I'm not sure. In the seventh grade, he was 5'6", grew to 6'1", as a freshman,

and then 6'4", during his sophomore year. Junior, he's almost 6'6", so he's growing tall like his dad here. He'll have another son that we'll talk about. When Glenn decides now to go pro after his junior year he's going to join enter the nba draft and uh it's interesting he's pissed off at purdue and we'll talk about why they talk about in this article that this is just an article i saw here and i this kind of feeds into why he's pissed off they talk about how at the bookstore you know the

purdue bookstore across from the, there is a sign that says Big Dog T-shirt sold here. So that's how that's he's a moneymaker for them. So they're making that for the school. Yeah. With zero money going to him? Oh, no. Yeah.

This is this is what. Oh, by the way, this is what Tim Tebow says. People shouldn't complain about. You should just live with it because enjoy it. Just bend over and take it, you know, like you do in church. Sorry, Tim Tebow, you fucking asshole. No, I'm not.

I'm not sorry for him. I'm sorry for people who go to church and don't molest kids, but Tim Tebow has learned to bend over and take it somewhere is all I'm saying. He had to because he's really good at it. This is fucking ridiculous, yeah. $15.99 these shirts are,

and it has a dribbling a dog dribbling a basketball with the words that say big dog is hungry tonight so there's that

also they have Robinson replica jerseys they have his jersey they just don't have the names on the back but it's still his jersey

$60 a pop they're selling those for they said they're selling like hot cakes it's just a Purdue jersey it's just a

Purdue jersey with his number on it that's all it is yeah because they're not buying it because sixty dollars all the other jerseys that don't sell right they're just they just like those particular numbers it's not because he's the on it's not that because it's his jersey this jersey is up close to the door they can grab it it's a quicker one that's all we just ordered more larges in this size that's all it's no

ridiculous uh also they have uh welcome to Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood shirts. I remember those. Those, but they have them for him with him on them. And they said, but at this point, they're all sold out. The whole order's gone, and that's it. So all sold out. The bookstore, they're like, man, it's flying off the shelf like hotcakes. Why do they have such demand for it?

It's amazing. This is so cool. He's flying off the shelf like hotcakes. Why do they have such demand for it? It's amazing. This is so cool. He's pissed off. He calls it profiteering on behalf of Purdue, which I would agree with. They've sold thousands upon thousands of shirts. I mean, every comb game, they're just selling tons of these shirts. And he says it sucks.

He says he wants it to stop. He says, quote, I felt I was exploited. They played me like i was a dumb kid they think i'm supposed to see a big dog t-shirt and just smile because they put me uh they put my picture on it meanwhile they're smiling and they've got a pocket full of my money yeah yes exactly fucking smart yes exactly he's 25 years ahead of his time that's exactly right you're smart now now they've had what two states now that have passed laws? Is it two? New York passed it, too, now.

New York and California passed laws saying that kids can profit from their shit in college. And I hope those stand up. Richard Sherman says he hopes that it fucking destroys college. I hope it does, too. I don't care if it does. If everyone's like, well, I like watching my football. That's fine. But you know what? The whole thing's not fucking fair. We need to figure I don't care if it does. If everyone's like, well, I like watching my football. That's fine. But you know what?

The whole thing's not fucking fair. Right. We need to figure out a way to make it fair. And if it needs to be blown up to be rebuilt, then fine. Because at this point, it's bullshit. Right. At this point, it's a load of shit. Now that we know how dangerous football is and how much these kids are putting their

future health and everything else on the line, they're not doing it for free anymore. That's bullshit. Ask that guy. Now you're making a bunch of money. Ask the guy that just shot a woman in the fucking shoulder. Winged her. That's what I mean.

And he's telling the Russian mafia is after him and he told them that he was diagnosed with a clinical psychosis because there's water on his brain. Yeah. Caused by concussions.

That's what I mean. It's fucking, it's dangerous. Well, not only that, it's just everything else. It's limping around. It's all that sort of shit. It's enough already. It ruins your body. It ruins your brain. It's too big of, not only that, it's just everything else. It's limping around. It's all that sort of shit. It's enough already.

It ruins your body. It ruins your brain. It's too big of a business now for that. When it was in the 50s, it was still bullshit, but at least no one was making a ton of money. They didn't have a big TV deal. They didn't have billions of dollars in TV deals. Stadiums were billions. They didn't have 110,000 seat stadiums that they build for insane amounts of money.

$100 million workout facilities these universities build hundred million dollar fucking athletic center gym that's insanity and the kids get who got nothing not a fucking dime for even their t-shirts so it's silly it's just silly so he's uh he's angry about that june 29th, 1994 is the NBA draft, and this is a chock full of future stars draft here. He goes number one overall to Milwaukee here, which is, in this class, that's saying a lot. Pretty great. Number two overall, Jason Kidd. Yeah. Out of Cal.

Number three, Grant Hill. Wow. Out of Duke. Donyell Marshall. Grant Hill just retired like yesterday. Yeah, like three days ago. He was out of Duke. Donyell Marshall. Grant Hill just retired like yesterday. Yeah, like three days ago. He was still... Jesus Christ.

Yeah, he played forever. For a guy who was so injured on the front end of his career, he just was like, Bob, when I'm 50, I'll be healthy, though. And now he's coaching, I think. Yeah, he just figured out HGH probably. That's all. I think that's probably all it is. Yeah, I think so.

Also, Juwan Howard is in this draft. Eric Montrose. Remember that big, flat-topped UNC center? Big, white center. I think he was double zeros, if I'm not mistaken. Did he go to the 76ers? Montrose, Boston. Oh, that's right.

They're like, a big, giant, pasty center? Holy shit. They'll fit in perfectly. Remember how fucking bad they were for so long? Oh, yeah, they were bad. Jesus, he was number six? Yeah, he was number six yeah he was number uh number uh no well he was number nine overall brian grant lamon murray were

also in there charone right eddie jones yeah it was a real good score for a while carlos rogers uh no eddie carlos uh eddie jones isn't that isn't that popeye jones no i don't think it's named popeye i don't think so i just remember it was eddie jones for the no way that guy named pop there's really a guy named popeye no it right? No, it's really a Popeye. Is that his real name? I think his name is Popeye Jones. Oh, God, I hope that's a nickname. Or if it's a nickname, it's one that you never hear his real name.

You know what I mean? It's one of those things. It's not like a barely said thing. Okay. Yeah, Eddie Jones is just Eddie Jones. Jalen Rose in this. I mean, that whole Michigan team here, except Chris Webber came up the year before. Yeah, the year before.

Exactly here. So it's a good first round. A lot of future people in here. Wesley Person, Chuck's little brother. Oh, yeah. So he's chosen by the Bucs. They offer him a contract, and he says, nope, holding out for what I want. This was a time period when NBA contracts were going through the roof, and so were MLB, all the sports,

because it was just a matter of sports cable had made sports a whole other thing to where there was competition and and there was a tv deals worth a lot of money in the nba right here huge boom it was the michael jordan effect of the whole thing and the 80s the 80s effect too from 85 to now the nba just been skyrocketing in popularity and at this point it was I mean this is we're talking space jam time it's huge right now so he says I would like a 10-year deal worth a shitload of money yeah like a fuckload of it and uh so they he holds out for a while and it's interesting because it's affecting the senate race of the owner of the team Herb Cole who owns the bucks and literally during his campaign senate campaign all press conferences and all they ask him about is where are your negotiations standing

with big dog how you doing with your number one pick and he's like i'd like to talk about the middle east and they're like no let me tell you about israel downtown now the west bank yeah i think he'll be a great forward right but what i'm saying is they shoot when's he starting there's rockets we need to intercept the there's terrorists on the borders coming to camp is he gonna be working out today i'll sign him okay just shut the fuck up so i think that helps gl, though, in the negotiations because it's a lot of pressure on the owner. Hell yeah. He's trying to run for Senate and they're asking him about whether they're going to sign his rookie power forward or not.

That's weird. So they end up signing him. He puts the pressure on 10 years, fully guaranteed $6815 million dollar contract real yeah so he comes out of college and set for life on day one is that the biggest contract at that time at that time it is the biggest contract in history signed by an nba rookie wow no incentive or performance goals in it either everything is just up front straight guaranteed straight We're just going to give it to you. Straight guarantees. No, you could not. He could go out and average two points a game.

What agent did it? And wash out for a while. I don't know, but I would like his phone number. If you could send, we love our agents, but that's insane. That's amazing. That's ridiculous. Yeah, that's silly. This is just silly time. One year deal.

I'll stop podcasting next year. Yeah. With that kind of money, you bet your ass. Wow. That's the biggest deal ever. Jason Kidd gets the second biggest deal ever. He gets a nine-year, $54 million contract. Wow, out of the gate.

Out of the gate, man. That's what it was about back then. You had to do that. Now they've structured it differently where the rookies for like three years, they don't get paid very much. Yeah. And then they can get paid like a $700 million fucking salary over eight years or some crazy shit jason kidd was such a turd he was such a douche oh dude he's such a fucking i hear too uh i i knew somebody who had gone to school

at the same time he did and he was known for being the dumbest person in school really he went to cal yeah he went to fucking you know that's a smart school yeah and he they said he was the dumbest person on campus to give you more of an idea of how dumb he is he bought a classic car an unbelievable car and brought it to uh stereo shop and picked it up and beat the shit out of his wife with it took a door off and whooped her ass with it he brought it to a custom stereo shop and had us cut the shit out of that dash. What a dummy. At a place that is known for the $1 wire fire. He brought it to us.

Installation for a buck. What a dumb shit. And we chopped the shit out of that car. What a fucking idiot. Why would he do that? Goddamn 67 Camaro. And we ruined it. That is insane.

That's wild. Because he's a fucking moron i would say yeah from everything else he's done too he's punches chicks yeah and then they hire him to coach teams right i think he'd be a great leader right he's a good point guard but i mean i don't know if you inspire anybody tell him don't tell us that he's a great leader just tell us that we want to win yeah he's got a great fucking look he's a dribbler we think he's a great leader. Just tell us that we want to win. Yeah, here he is. And he's got a great fucking, he's a dribbler. We think he has a plan that doesn't involve domestic violence. And we're going to tell him to run with it. He's just a path to 15 assists a quarter.

So they finally reached a deal with Glenn Robinson at 2 o'clock in the morning the night before the season starts. Really? So that's how close it was. And they said, how'd you reach a deal then? And the owner of the team and Senate candidate said, quote, the season starts. Really? So that's how close it was. And they said, how'd you reach a deal then? And the owner of the team and Senate candidate said, quote, the season starts tomorrow. Glenn Robinson's a basketball player. He wants to play basketball.

And if I didn't give it to him, people would never shut the fuck up. I like the Senate race and I want to win. I'd like to win and I'm tired of talking about this guy. At the time, though, they're thinking this might cause some strife on the team because at the time, the club's highest paid player was Vin Baker, who had a 10-year contract as well worth $16 million. Really? 16 and 68 is a really...

It's a vast number of different... It's a chasm. Also, Vin, small forward, right? Yeah, he was a good good player too him and uh him and vin baker one year i think it was 96 97 possibly only jordan and pippen were better scoring really in the whole league than vin baker and glenn how about that you don't think about that a small forward and a shooting guard versus a power forward and a small forward exactly that's pretty amazing it's pretty good shit and uh uh

so vin baker says he's not mad about it he says quote we know what he can do for us for this team for this city that's all that matters we'll all be delighted to see him yeah grace and his bigger house than mine bigger house and i'm sure he's gonna have a bentley that motherfucker i want a bentley jerm, get the shovel. Grace. Grace. This is Grace. 68 million guaranteed?

That is Grace, man. I don't care what happens from there. From there, from Grace, his dad is wanted at this point. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. They're like, congratulations. So your dad's on the street wanted by the cops. Pretty cool, huh? Wow.

Your dad's homeless with a warrant. How's that 68.15 million treating you? It's almost got to put a damper on it for about three seconds. And then you're like, no way, this car,

the seats are so soft. The leather on them. It doesn't even feel like leather. It's leather. It feels like suede. It feels like velvet. It's so weird. Feel it.

It's crazy. That's leather. Can you believe that was on a cow's ass at one point? It used to be a cow's ass. It used to be a cow. So it's the Lake County Police.

They say they have an outstanding warrant for his arrest on cocaine and heroin possession charges. Yeah, he says, quote, I didn't like this is Glenn Jr. here, our Glenn. I didn't get to know him like a son should know his father because he really wasn't around. But I'm not ashamed of my father. A lot of people have said that when I see him, I turn away. That's not true. I would never turn away from my own father. He says that that article was bullshit and that he never turned away from him.

And he does know where he is. He's not missing. He says, quote, if I want to find my father, I know exactly where he lives. I don't need to go searching for him. The third tree is so down the trail. He is directly behind the 7-Eleven. That's where he lives. I don't need to go searching for him. The third creosote down the trail. He is directly behind the 7-Eleven. That's where he stays. He's got a nice dumpster.

Best one in the neighborhood. It's really sweet. Put a hot tub out back. He has hung a Frigidaire box in a tree like a hammock. It's so comfy. It's pretty cool. It's not bad. I was impressed.

He's also figured out a way to have a broken down El Camino in driveway doesn't even have a driveway so it's trashy but i like it in 94 we like to call it hood grimy yeah 94 95 milwaukee bucks this is nobody cared about the milwaukee at all it was tough it was tough going for that team tough bucking at this point yeah this is vin baker john barry not even not even Brent Barry, the other Barry. Todd Day. I remember Todd Day being on that team. He was a handsome dude. From Arkansas there, Todd Day.

Lee Mayberry, the other. Anybody from Arkansas? Yeah, he was a little shit, too. Lee Mayberry. He's a little point guard, I believe. A shooting guard, maybe. I just see, though, he has my birthday. Really?

June 12th. How about that? Good for you, Lee Mayberry. He was great. Yeah, he's a great, great guy. Ed Pickney. Really? June 12th. How about that? Good for you, Lee Mayberry. He was great. Yeah, he's a great, great guy. Ed Pickney. Yeah. We're all Ed Pickney there.

So this is not a real exciting team as we've gone over it. And they're not very good either. They're well under five. That's the starting five? That's their whole team, pretty much. Other guys, Alton Lister as a center. You know, guys, Eric Murdoch, know aaron williams johnny newman it's not a no it's not a powerhouse squad two yeah you're not shocked at the record when you

see they won like 20 games that year you're like but it was exciting a couple of plays yeah vin baker and glenn robinson that's why they're scoring that's why they're scoring so much no who the fuck else is gonna do it glenn had a hell of a like 18 foot jumper too oh hell yeah it was great he would pull up from three like nobody's he's one of those fat guys who what you'd see him just hanging out in the corner and you just shoot those corner threes and you're like how did you slide in there you bastard yeah so uh 94 95 here uh uh he plays in uh 70 or he plays in 80 games and starts 76 games as a rookie. Really? So they throw him right in there.

37 minutes a game as a rookie. That's a lot. That really is a lot. 21.9 points a game, 6.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.4 steals. Goddamn good rookie season. Can't beat it. I mean, you can't ask for more than that for a guy, especially a young kid playing inside. It takes a couple years, usually physically, for them to get used to playing inside in the NBA, especially back then.

But, I mean, $68 million will make you try your fucking hardest. It'll make you go throw your ass at somebody. But especially back then, inside, you had to be a man to go inside. I mean, there was elbows flying. There was a lot of pushing and shoving. Dennis Rodman played them. Rodman and Oakley and Olajuwon and Ewing. And these guys.

No, they're in the West. Who? The Bucs. The Bucs. Yeah, the Bucs. So, no, the Bucs? Yeah. No, they're in the West.

No, they're in the West. Yeah, what am I talking about? They've got to be. Yeah. So. No. No. They're in the East.

I see they're all-star jerseys. Timberwolves. Yeah. Yeah. 95-96 season here it starts all 86 gay or all 82 games over 39 minutes a game he plays 20.2 points 6.1 rebounds three and a half assists he ups those numbers some steals some blocks not too shabby makes three million seven hundred seventy thousand dollars rookie year for his second year for a rookie year made 2.9 million9 million for the rookie year.

So he's got five in the bank. So, I mean, he's made almost seven. So, 2.9 and 3.7. Is that almost seven? Yeah, that is $6.6 million. You're right. Yeah, it's a lot of money. That's bad math.

That's terrible math. Too bad you don't have a jump shot you're lucky you got a funny laugh sure didn't get me 6.6 million that's your version of a 34 inch vertical jump that's what Fuck yeah. You had to work on the rest of it. Still with that shit. You had to work on the rest of your game of being funny. But the laugh is like your vertical jump. That's your natural shit.

And you had to add to that game. Comes with me. Yeah, you had to add to the game. Which you've done here. So 1996, Glenn has announced that he will be on Dream Team 2. The second Dream Team, which was a huge deal because the first Dream Team was the biggest thing in the history of basketball. But it was disappointing.

It is an issue. And Glenn is even more disappointing because he doesn't actually play on that team. What? If you remember, he's not on that team. Why? He's replaced by Gary Payton on the team. Really?

Officially, they put out that it's because of injury. Right. But right after the selection he also uh gets arrested for uh uh threatening a female gas station attendant get out of here it was very it was kept a lot under the radar and there was a couple of reporters that found it out and they were like look let's call let's call bullshit when we see it here he's not not on the olympic team because of an injury that he's not injured at all. It's because he just got arrested for threatening a female gas station attendant,

and nobody wants to explain that shit. That's why. They replaced him with Gary Payton, who's great, but just as surly as him. But he hasn't assaulted a female gas station attendant recently, at least. That we know of. That helps. That helps. That one may have been kept out of the recently, at least. That we know of. That helps. That helps. That one may have been kept out of the public, though, because he seems to be...

He's a monster. Yeah, he's done some stuff, too. He's just a fucking scary man. He is. He was so good. God damn, was he good. What a great defender. Yeah.

So he's removed from the Olympic team here. And also, they're talking about in an article, article like you don't see him on any endorsements do you no he gets no shit and he didn't he really didn't he's known as kind of a quiet surly cat that just kind of sticks to himself he's not real uh he's not real friendly doesn't go out looking for for you know uh business opportunities or anything like that fucking why would you you don't need i mean he's good but the problem is too he plays in milwaukee yeah which is a problem unless you play for the packers playing in milwaukee is not you're playing in wisconsin if anything is you're right you might as well be on mars basically you're just not yeah it's not that's the thing too you're playing on the bucks nobody gave a shit about the team

their team had no heat as far as that goes even on sports center they breezed through those highlights in two minutes the bucks played tonight moving on glenn robinson dunks vin baker hits a jumper and then we move on to the magic game because shack and penny are way more interesting back then that's what it was though so 96 97 uh he just plays regular basketball instead of on the dream team so tough going for him uh but he plays in 80 games that year averages 39 points a game 21.1 points a game so he's very consistent around 20 to 21 points a game 6.3 rebounds so every year he had 6.4 6.1 6.3 so he's consistent as shit you know what you're getting with glenn rice or glenn rice glenn robinson that's who i thought of that's what i mean glenn robinson and he knows what he's

getting as well which is four million six hundred forty thousand dollars for that season which is awesome jesus that's great awesome yeah that sounds pretty good now 97 98 uh he's playing in that season this is the uh the 56 games he plays in this season and he is uh arrested in december of 97 for disorderly conduct outside of a Milwaukee nightclub, which now he had to be doing something terrible. That's not just drunken. No, because Milwaukee will tolerate some shit to get arrested for drunkenness in Milwaukee. Right.

I don't know how what your blood alcohol level has to be. Jeffrey Dahmer's boyfriend was reading. Sir, your blood alcohol level is blind and kugel. We're taking you in. I'm sorry. Sir, your blood alcohol level is summer shandy. I applaud the seasonal nature of your blood, but we're going to have to take you in for this.

I believe that's too bright. That's over the limit. We could have let you go if it was a spring tart. We could have let you go with the summer. We can't let you go on the summer. It's too the limit. We could have let you go if it was a spring tart. We could have let you go. But this summer, we can't let you go on the summer. It's too alcohol content. This was pumpkin spice. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. We'd be a little more generous. Hands behind your back. I'm very sorry. Here. Don't worry. There's some curds in the back seat for you. Just put your...

Squeaky cheese. Get in there. Just put them on your face like a feed bag. And that should hold you over until we get to the... Yeah. Until we get there. And then we'll have a full spread at the jail. They returned Jeffrey Dahmer's drugged and drunk boyfriend back to him.

They're like, we're sorry. Did you lose a Filipino child? Can you get this child out of the street, sir? Did you lose a naked Filipino sex thing? Is that... Jimmy... Jimmy... jimmy jimmy jimmy get the job

sex i am so sorry to jeffrey's poor young man sex thing holy shit i think that's what domer would have i just collapsed headphones off his head that about my ribs, forcing air out of my fucking chest. Unreal. But they returned him. They returned him. So what do you got to do, Glenn, to be arrested?

Outside of a nightclub. If that's not disorderly. Yeah. Losing your underage Filipino sex thing. If that's not disorderly, I don't know what the fuck is. Right. I mean, Jesus Christ. With holes in his head. Holes in his head all nude. underage Filipino sex thing. If that's not disorderly, I don't know what the fuck it is. Right. I mean, Jesus Christ.

With holes in his head. Holes in his head all nude. Did you lose it? Are you going to patch those holes up? Put some underwear on him? All right. Looks like he's leaking acid out of his forehead. I don't know. Super weird, right?

You'll take care of this? Good. I got one sitting on the bar waiting for the foam to go down, so I'm going to get down there and hit that up. Holy shit. We'll be in Milwaukee on December 6th. It's small town murder. Jimmy's going to test how drunk you can get in the streets.

I bet pretty drunk. It's winter, too, so they won't care. I want to keep clear of the naked Filipino sex things. I would. If you see any, avoid them because you don't want to get linked with them legally. That's a problem. So he's arrested for disorderly conduct for some reason here outside of a Milwaukee nightclub. This won't be the last time inside of a nightclub.

Not in Milwaukee, though. He straightens up his shit in Milwaukee here. So 97-98 season, 23.4 points a game. Ups his points, five and a5 rebounds, 2.8 assists. So still great times, doing well. $5.51 million. $5,510,000 that year for Glenn. So every year his contract escalates, escalates, escalates.

It's not a bad life for him. So imagine just knowing no matter what. Oh my God god there's a huge payday coming yeah unless the nba collapses yeah and even then this guy still owes you the fuck he's a billionaire the guy he's a really rich guy the guy's running for senate running for senate and all this he's gonna have to pay you anyway like you're gonna get or you're gonna at least get pennies on the dollar you're getting money yeah so uh 98 99 this is the strike shortened season here uh uh 47 games played he uh 18.4 points a game and uh this is where a lot of guys came in out of shape because they never knew when the

strike was gonna end yeah so like whenever there's a strike in sports guys are like cool and they hang out yeah and they eat yeah they don't practice and they fuck around a lot of guys do yeah and then they want to know like ahead of time and they fuck around a lot of guys do yeah and then they want to know like ahead of time then they i have like a month to get in shape and they get in shape but then the strike just ends like that and they're like we're playing next week and they're like oh shit jesus christ doing sit-ups right like crazy i've been playing nba live the past six months man i figured that was good to hold me that would that's good training playing basketball it's i've been playing i've been using the Bucs sometimes

sometimes they're pretty boring then it feels a little egotistical I feel a little like I'm going too far I traded myself to the Rockets if that's a good

I'm having a much better time than me than us over here you guys you'd be surprised what happens when we have a center and a point guard

we should get one me, Olajuwon Kenny Smith and Vernon Maxwell it's a pretty solid squad. I'm not going to lie. Pretty bananas. Robert Horry coming off the bench hitting those threes.

Just saying. It's pretty good. It's a pretty good squad. That Mario Ellie coming through. Oh, forget about it. Oh, my God. We're dominating. It's dominating.

It absolutely is. He makes $6,380,000 that year for a shortened season. June 28, 1999. This is postseason here. We are in Miami. It is 2.15 in the morning. So when we set that dateline, Miami, 2.15 a.m., and it's a basketball player, it's not going to be good no it's not like he helped deliver a baby who was you know a pregnant mother's taxi had broken down and he pulled her out and delivered the child

right there on the street laid his giant shirt down to shield it from the dirt he he uh uh uh harold minor and steve smith didn't go all three together yeah didn't go uh volunteer at a goddamn boy scout fundraising troop no what they did is they all at the they all together in one day built a home for habitat for humanity all at the same time jimmy carter everybody was there they were all there also then the next day they said you know what that was so fun let's build a ronald mcdonald house on top of it for six children all night long 2 30 all the way to 2 30 in the morning awesome but then at 2 15 in the morning right then there's problems it's a place called club chaos yeah which no that does not sound like habitat for humanity miami 2 15 a.m club chaos professional athlete bad shit's gonna happen oh it's the crime in sports to the comes in to check it out here uh he is denied

entrance to the club oh fuck don't deny an nba player who makes seven million dollars a year big dog a huge guy because he thinks he fucking can go anywhere he wants anytime he wants and you you fucking eight dollar an hour clipboard guy right just told him he can't come in. Now that's not for me. That's in Glenn's mind the way he's thinking about it. How dare this guy

tell the big dog I can't come in a club. I could buy this club. What are you talking about? Yeah. Because he wasn't dressed properly. Oh he was

no there's a dress code here and he is not adhering and he's like and he wants to get in anyway he's like bitch you know how much fucking rich i am because his whole thing is i'll dress however the fuck i want yeah you know how expensive whatever the shit i'm wearing is right doesn't matter yeah i make so much it doesn't i could i'm so rich i can dress like a bum and you'll be like well he could dress well if he wanted to and let him in like that's his mind

can i just point out real quick that the phrase, it doesn't matter, now means so much more to me after watching Stevie, the documentary. Oh, my God. Isn't it great? The guy's fishing. Oh, my God. How depressing is it when that guy keeps saying, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

His friend, Tim is his name, his friend, is the nicest man in the world. I was crying for him like yeah because he's sitting there while a caterpillar millipede yeah it's a millipede is that what that is giant millipede crawling on him what like goes like under his shirt sleeve right on his shirt and i'm like what the fuck and then it goes like in his thing he's just going up he's so drunk caterpillar doesn't even notice he's just like it goes up his shirt sleeve at that moment he goes doesn't matter doesn't matter they're just fishing in silence i don't know he's like i heard things i heard he's a molester and everything but doesn't matter doesn't matter we're just hanging out i mean he's doesn't he's not judging anybody no this guy would be like he should be he should be

what a priest is just like i'm not judging. We'll go fishing. You tell me about yourself. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But you know that that's a man who's just at his end of his rope and has no motivation to kill himself. So he just goes through every day just muttering, it doesn't matter. He blows his truck engine out trying to get back there in the mud, too.

There's smoke coming out. They're looking at him. Yeah, trip fishing costs him so much money. Everything. Probably can't get to work now. And he's like, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, James.

He worked four weeks out of the year anyway. And you don't know how long it is that we're in the year. No. And he just looks at the camera and goes, nope, that ain't good. Nope, that ain't good. No. That guy just, I feel,

and he's just like, he'll sit there and think about something and he'll just go, nah, I don't know it doesn't matter now you got to see stevie ask the white supremacist for help in the field i'm almost there okay and i cannot wait lay ms guy yeah at one point just watch this everybody out there who watches stevie i'm not sure which podcast we talked about this on crime and sport i think it was okay there's a documentary called stevie by the guy who did it steve james did the documentary he's not stevie but steve james he's the guy who directed hoop dreams oh if you're listening to this you might know what hoop dreams is it was like an academy award-winning documentary about kids uh coming

through high school into college for basketball and what that process was like well he did a thing where it's a documentary about a uh steve james is a filmmaker and when he was in college he entered the big brother big sister program and was a big brother to a kid named stevie who turned out to be a fucking disaster who's just this white trash guy who lives in like a trailer on his grandmother's property in the middle of nowhere southern illinois he dates a mentally challenged woman who like is i don't know what's wrong with her she's disabled in several ways i feel like and this is no insult but it's weird that he's like this is my fiancee like what i get it's just

different i want all these bears from the crane machine that that one right there my girlfriend also has one with the hot stuff written all over it. That's how they introduce her. The one with that hot stuff on there. That's how he says it, actually. The one, quote, with that hot stuff on there. Because it says hot stuff written on it. That's how he talks. So he gave her that, and then they introduce her, and that's how they panned her.

And this is hot stuff. And you're like, whoa, Jesus. And she's like rubbing her eye with the back of her hand going, Stevie. You're like, what the fuck is happening? I'm not trying to be i'm this is i'm dead serious that's a very indicative uh uh personality trait when you say rubbed their eye with the back specific you see that person you know exactly what's happening got that hot stuff on there there's a problem there's issues so he he ends up oh god nothing was more fucking apropos i think she does it that's why it's such a picture i've seen that thing a million times yeah it's so good i can't i can't stop watching it at one point

though stevie is in trouble for molesting his niece and that is why steve james decides to catch well he decides to catch up with this guy just to see what happened to his little brother. Two years prior to that incident, he met up with him. It's just supposed to be this little short art documentary that he's shooting about, oh, these people meeting later on in life after they were big brothers. And what would that be like? And instead, it turns out, this guy gets arrested for molesting his niece. And he's like, maybe I'll go back and talk to him a little more well now and it's just the whole thing unfolds and anyway stevie's gonna go to prison at one point for molesting obviously and so he goes to the local uh leader of the white

super or as the guy puts it i'm running the the aryan brotherhood around here yeah uh that he goes to the local leader of the aryan brotherhood to ask him for protection for when he goes into prison. Will you put the word out? Yeah. Will you put the word out that, you know, stick up for Stevie because when they see my charges, I'm going to get the shit beat out of me and it's not going to be good for me.

So this guy, Dale is his name, he's got a nice blonde, like curly mullet and he sits there looking at him and he's like, let me ask you a question. He's like asking him all this nonsense, asking questions, answering them. Stevie has no idea what's going on. He's just like, can you make them not fuck me, please? That's all I'm asking for. He has no idea what's happening. His girlfriend's rubbing her eye with the baby's head.

I don't know what's happening. And at one point, his buddy is sitting there, the Aryan Brotherhood leader's buddy is sitting there listening, too. And he's like nodding his head to everything. and he's like nodding his head to everything and at one point the leader says something so crazy that even his friend purses his whole face and turns to him like what the fuck are you talking about?

Dale we didn't talk about that Bart but the funny part is you're going rogue on me Dale I don't know nothing about it. I like it I like what you said don't get me wrong I like a freestyle once in a while. We call you Maverick behind your back. I like what you said. Don't get me wrong. I like a freestyle once in a while. We call you Maverick behind your back. I know.

Yeah, you're crazy, boy. This is all going on in the most... You're on fire today. I think we're both delirious. So this is happening in a field in the middle of southern Illinois with three hillbillies talking about Aryan Brotherhood, will you protect me in jail for molesting my niece?

Yeah. And the guy who's got the funny look on his face, like, what the fuck are you talking about, Dale, has a Les Mis t-shirt on. That was a long story to get to this,

but somehow, this shit-kicking hillbilly Nazi who lives in the middle of nowhere, I like my theater. Right. I like musical theater. You got a problem with that them songs get in my head all catchy like more big rent and lay ms lay ms fang

understand i've seen cats 27 times hear me i like the classics i got tickets for wicked that's right they over old ever open oklahoma again front row opening night, buddy. Let me tell you something. Front and center. Let me tell you what. Front of a band pit. Right. So this is what's happening in Stevie is what we're talking about anyway. So it's a fucking mess, basically.

And that guy is just how depressed he is. Oh, God. And he's fine with it. He's amazing. So you need to see Stevie. It's on Amazon Prime. Yeah, it's on Amazon Prime.'s on amazon prime it's the most fascinating thing in the world wait till they go to chicago you haven't seen that part and they

meet up with it's the luckiest uh just things of lining up it couldn't have lined up better unreal just for a documentary purpose because it just did that he just decides to just hang out with this guy and it unfolds in the craziest way his brother and sister the whole sister and brother-in-law the whole thing's insane so apparently though he's not dressed properly glenn robinson not dressed properly at all he's at the door pissed off obviously probably saying this is more expensive than your car all right fuck you blah blah blah so officers police officers were called to try to calm him down and ask him to leave the area and it's at that point that he turned to them and to the officers and yelled i ain't talking to you i'm yelling at this motherfucker to which they're like oh no we've directed the conversation now

this way right and we have guns so we get to tell you right well who you're talking to now that's the way it works meanwhile he's probably wearing like an Anwood fit, you know what I mean? And the logo on his chest is bigger than the doorman. And he's probably got a $14,000 watch on him. Let him in. He's Glenn Robinson. What are we doing here? He could pay his tab. Yeah, he's not going to. Exactly. It's all

good here. And they said it's at this point that he became, in the police report, quote, aggressive and appeared to be on the verge of physical violence. He appeared to have on the verge of physical violence. He appeared to have a strong smell of alcohol on his breath and was already drunk, which was another reason to not let him in the club here. His friends tried to pull him away, but he became even more belligerent, flinging his friends off of him like some sort of deranged King Kong figure.

Just a six-foot-eight basketball player who's been drinking. That has small people on him just like throwing him off like little planes swatting him out of the sky. Probably not difficult. He's going to dominate the whole. He's going to be on top of the building in a second going I'm so much bigger than all of you. I'm fucking huge. Let me into the club. I can pick you

up and put you over here. I will eat the news helicopter. Do you understand that? Yeah, he's a giant angry man. And so, yeah, he's got slurred speech, bloodshot eyes, smell of alcohol, you know, drunk stuff. So he's taken to the Miami jail here where he is released after posting $500 bond. And so not great. Disorderly intoxication is what he's charged with. None of his friends wanted to press charges for flinging them around like ragdolls obviously because they want to go

back to the next club yeah and he's gonna he's got the cover he's yeah yeah he's doing that fucking ticket in that's right 99 2000 here he's an all-star for the first time yeah uh starts 81 games that year uh 20.9 points a game here. Very good. Six rebounds. He's having his typical Glenn Robinson 20-6 season. He's an all-star. He makes $7,250,000 that year.

My God. Killing it. 2,000, 2,001. 76 games he's in. He averages 22 points a game and almost seven rebounds. So he has a better year this year. This is his best year in the NBA so far in terms of both of those things and even more assists than normal, 3.3 assists.

He's an all-star again, and he makes $8,120,000. Holy shit. That's a lot of fucking money. Just one season. I'm fine. He's made over $15 million in the last two years of this right now. It's two all-star seasons. Ridiculous.

And right now, for an all-star player, that's less than half. That's like half a season. But for then, that's huge money. That's 40 games. Yeah. 2001-2002, Milwaukee again here. He plays in 66 games, 20.7 points a game, 6.2 rebounds. Glenn Robinson is Mr. 20-6.

You know, that's what you're getting out of him he makes eight million nine hundred ninety thousand dollars that year so stacking shit he's fucking stacking my god paper for sure that is awesome uh so july 30th 2002 3 a.m uh-oh never good oh god whenever we give a time it's always bad whenever that time is between 12 a.m. Uh-oh. Never good. Oh, God. Whenever we give a time, it's always bad. Whenever that time is between 12 a.m. and midnight and 5 in the morning, it's even worse. Yeah. So, July 30, 2002, 3 a.m. He's got his ex-girlfriend. Well, he doesn't have her.

They're not together at this moment in time. He has a three-year-old daughter at this point. And also, this is different from glenn juniors this isn't glenn june glenn the third's mom okay this is a different woman here he's got more kids with you so uh this is his former fiancee and he shows up at three o'clock in the morning angry wanting to see the three-year-old daughter. No. Okay. She ends up letting him in eventually. And this is when shit gets really, really fucking weird. Okay. This is, I don't even know.

He threatened to hit her with a plastic plant at one point. He said he wants the gun. He had brought a gun to this home earlier in the week and he said he wants this gun from her right now he threatens to hit her with a plastic with like a fake plant from the house and then she doesn't she doesn't do it so he takes the fake plant rather than hitting her with it he pulls off all the petals of the fake plant one at a time what the fuck I don't know if he's like I'll strip this fucking plant bare if he she's like I don't care it's a fake plant it's awfully threatening

yeah he's it's the weirdest yeah it's the most ominous weirdest most childish way to threaten somebody I've ever seen I'll pull all the petals off your fake plant it's fucking weird he knows it's fake right or is he so drunk he doesn't realize it he might be like smells pretty good though I'm going to eat it.

It's pretty good. It's not bad. You should try it sometime. So, yeah, apparently this happens and he wants the gun. He forces her into the upstairs bedroom and repeatedly punches and kicks her at this point. She says that they, you know this is someone she he's known her since purdue they got together when he was at purdue and he's repeatedly beating on her yeah uh so then he says give me the gun that i gave to you so i can shoot myself i'd like to

shoot myself now please give me my gun what has happened uh so she instead was very scared at this point uh and then he said look i'm ready to die and we're both gonna die no yeah now it said i'm ready and you're coming with me bitch so that now we're in a whole another level of crazy what happened picking the pedals off and punching and kicking that's one thing but i'm ready to die you're coming with me how did we get here that is another thing. But I'm ready to die. You're coming with me. How did we get here? That is another thing completely. She said she was feared that she was going to be killed. So she said the guns in here in some other place. When he went to look for it, she ran out of the house and escaped and went banged on a neighbor's door and called the police.

Thank fuck for that. So they come in. She originally said no. Her name is John to French. She said no. He became janta french uh she said no he became angry and that's it he it's alleged that he hit her several times in the hip and thigh uh and then drug her around asking for the gun uh then he chased her around outside before the cops got there she right out went to call the cops came back outside he found her started chasing her around when the

cops showed up he's chasing her around outside talking about, we're all going to die. We all die tonight and shit. This is unbelievable. Yeah, this is a little much. It's a little fucking crazy here. So, you know, he's supposed to. He's going to have to go to court for that one. He's released on a $5,000 bond.

He is charged with all sorts of shit that we'll get into in a minute here. But, yeah, it's a lot. That's a big appearance. That's a big crime in sports. Oh, that's heavy. Going into the ex-fiance's house, threatening to kill her with a gun and beating her and chasing her around outside. Threatening murder-suicide. Threatening murder-suicide.

He's got nothing to lose. Which is even crazier. That means he's at the end of his rope and he doesn't like you either. That's fucking scary. I hate me and I hate you, too. Jermaine's looking in the window, just fucking waiting. He's fogging it up with his breath with the fucking shovel over his shoulder. Going, there's nothing here for me.

Nothing here. Got nothing. So he is traded at this point. Milwaukee has had enough. They trade him in August of 2002, so pretty much right after this. Two weeks later two weeks later he's traded uh to the hawks for tony kukoc and uh kukoc and leon smith and the 2003 draft pick he went to atlanta so yes he played in atlanta for a while

and uh i mean christ almighty he gets down there he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing now he's two weeks ago he was like mr milwaukee he's the guy of milwaukee and now it's him and brett farve right and now it's uh you know he's he's being shipped off to atlanta because he acted like a maniac in the middle of the night i like how that they act like they treat they treat domestic abusing players like this like like the catholic church treats priests you get them out of this town and it'll be fine. Well, if we move him over to Atlanta, he won't molest anybody there.

There's nobody there. No one's a criminal down there. There's no people there. Yeah, that's how it works, really. There's definitely no children. There's no Catholics, obviously. You know, maybe he'll molest some Baptist children or some Pentecostal children.

Like the Lord intended. Yeah, they believe you can handle snakes they'll believe anything because it's fine shit so uh yeah it's crazy he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing he's just wandering around uh atlanta trying to figure himself out now he's not around his kids even more he's never wanted to play too far from home because he never wanted to leave for college and milwaukee is closer to Indiana than Atlanta is probably. So, you know, it's Chicago basically to Milwaukee is a lot shorter trip. Yeah.

There might be flights. There's flights. It's different. This is down south and he's never lived down there. It's a totally different thing. He does get a place of his own down there where he's going to try to start over. And, of course, this guy, he does have no fucking luck, of course. He buys this house.

It's all screwed up right away. So he's got a problem there. Atlanta housing crisis. Some sort of, I don't know what happened. It got backed up with all the, I don't know what's going on. So he's got all these problems. He has so many workers over the house. And finally, one day, his toilets are just completely screwed up and he needs help and there's a knock at the door and it's paul calhoun shit pipe enthusiast and he says

how is it you come to arrive here guy what the fuck is wrong with you you're making like nine million fucking dollars a year i'd be on an island what do you care what's your ex-girlfriend's who gives a shit go over there hey listen to me listen to me you heard my slogan right clean your shit pipes to smack your wife right she's not even your fucking wife what do you care what do you care what's going on here she's not trying to take all your shit what's the difference is what i'm talking about anyway your, your pipes, they got this plastic fucking plants in there.

There's awards from some Indiana basketball. I don't know what the hell's in there, but your shit pipes are clogged. Those shit pipes of your life, they're just too clogged. I need to snake them out. Let's just put it that way.

Tell you what, you stay in Atlanta for a while. I'm sure it'll all clear up. Poof. And in a poof of shit and pipes he's gone and smacked wives and smacked wives and he's very confused uh he's like it's weird down south i thought the south yeah but i never thought this would happen he didn't even have a southern accent that guy so 2002 2003 atlanta this is uh sharif abdur rahim forgot all about him

he was really good too too. Corey Benjamin. It's kind of... Alan Henderson. It's back without... Oh, he comes back there. There you go. Alan Henderson comes full circle. Yeah, it's not a great squad.

It really isn't here. I was just going to say that. Late 90s. After... Post-Dominique is a bad time. Yeah, Post-Dominique, Stacey Augman. It's not good. Steve Smith is the big guy on the team.

Yeah, I was like, ooh Steve Smith is the big guy on the team. Yeah, I was like, this is bad stuff here. 2002-2003, 35-47 for Atlanta. They don't do very well here. Just, you know, that's shit. They don't even make the playoffs. Smidge better than the Bucs. Yeah, their attendance that year was 28th of 29 teams.

So no one coming to see that mess of people that you've never heard of. So as you might imagine, he plays in 69 games, 20.8 points a game. Just always consistent. 6.6 rebounds, 3 assists. He's good for 26 and 3 every goddamn year. Makes $9,860,000. My God. For that shit. Not too shabby.

To not do a goddamn thing competitively. Not do shit. Yeah, for the games not to matter and for no one to watch them. And they have 80, what is it? 41 home games. 41 home games, 528,000 people came to 41 home. That is terrible. That's 10,000

people. That's fucking awful. That's awful. For the NBA. Yeah. You want a little more excitement, I would would say about that and that's those stadiums hold so many people oh yeah yeah i mean this was the downswing of basketball from post-strike to now it took a huge dip in pop once because jordan left so it was like double whammy with jordan retiring and that strike just knocked that like a third to forty percent of the basketball fans were gone. And that average of $10,000 per game, that's average.

When the Bulls came to town, it was probably spiked. When somebody good came to town, the Lakers come to town, somebody interesting comes to town. You get the Clippers in town and that shit plummets. Oh, that's an ugly game. If it's Cleveland and Atlanta pre-LeBron, it's not anything anybody wants to watch. Not good at all. But like we said, good year for him. $9,860,000.

April 2003, he's got a court date for his domestic battery here. And we'll talk about the exact charges. And he misses it. He decides just not to show up for that. So the judge decides to issue a warrant for his arrest because you have to show up for shit like that. You fucking threatened to kill a woman in her own home at three o'clock in the morning. You got to answer for that now, stupid. So they said they the he his lawyer contacts the court, though, and they set the arrest warrant aside.

And he's ordered to appear appear at all future hearings or be taken into custody here. So they also raise his bond from five thousand to one hundred thousand dollars uh for doing that that it costs you an extra 95 grand oh and you have to surrender your passport as well oh shit so they told him he can't have his passport either because i don't know if they thought he was going to run away we're going to notice him going through the airport he's going to stick out big guy guy, about 300 pounds. Yeah, we got him. No problem. Red cap? Yeah, yeah. Started wearing a red cap.

Jermaine, go find him. Jermaine, bring your shovel. Hunt him down. Get him. So May 16, 2003 is the trial. He decides to go to trial for these charges of domestic battery and assault and unlawful possession of a firearm.

So these sound like heavy charges. He could be charged or sentenced up to a year in prison out of this. And he decides to go to trial. Really? He doesn't take a plea. He's going to trial. Goes to trial. The jury takes less than two hours to come back with a verdict.

And he's convicted, guilty of domestic battery and assault, but not guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm because i think he never found the gun got it so they never in possession of he never had it then he wanted to possess it right if there was a unlawful desire desire to possess your gun that you can't find in your own closet then that would be he'd be guilty as it yeah you know but uh this no uh so the judge this is a good one this judge i mean the sentencing is weak but the judge is good here he says quote you almost need an english accent for this to really have the right amount of pissed off the gusto yeah the gusto just the indignity involved indignant you bastard says for the life

of me i can't understand what you were thinking it's shocking what you did you might have had some grievances but you had no right to take it out on the mother of your daughter you have it all you make more money in a year than 99 of all americans make in a lifetime it's sad you're a role model and as such you've brought shame upon yourself and your family and you sir have let your fans down you sir may fuck off that's a good one one year of conditional discharge a year nothing with those words and friday said that i thought they were gonna bang him for 20 years did he did he sign that up for like the next? He forgot he was talking to Glenn Robinson? To the guillotine with you.

Jermaine, get the shovel. That's what he was getting sentenced to, but instead. Did he forget that this wasn't the guy that murdered somebody? Apparently not. He really had that. I think maybe he didn't get to give that speech to somebody else. He locked and loaded it. He's like, this is so good.

I wrote it, and I'm going to say it sometime. So it's all it's all you glenn this one's yours replace some words some other words uh yes so jesus christ so it's a year of conditional discharge which means it will be expunged from his record if he avoids getting in trouble in the next year one year one of those so just don't get arrested the next year and you get nothing rather than a year in prison oh would you have gotten that if that was you i feel like you'd at least they'd be like go to go to jail for a year and then in 20 we'll try and get rid of it six months in a heavy fine right and you'd have to like register as some sort of offender everyone thinks you take your dick out at elementary school stevie in a field somewhere looking for some leader of a of a minority gang some guy with a lay ms shirt on

staring through you i don't know about him so uh yeah he's he's he's also ordered to take anger management classes and serve five days in the sheriff cook county sheriff's work alternative program where he could be uh assigned to pick up litter so big fucking deal he he's broken a woman's home uh pushed his way into a woman's home and scared the life out of her at three in the morning and chased her around in the street and gets nothing threatened to kill both of us okay that's fine uh he has an answer for it though yeah he says quote i'm very sorry for the incident uh he says i regret any embarrassment to my family my friends the bucks organization and the bucks. Anybody else that judge might have mentioned because he had a good list.

He covered them all. He covered them all. And the organization and who have supported me. I was wrong. I made a mistake and I feel very bad about it. I will do whatever it's necessary to resolve it. These things don't excuse me from the mistakes I've made. I was wrong.

But if the media gave gave the positive things I do, one tenth of the coverage they gave the negative things I did, I would be very happy with that. Well, whatever you're doing positive is not as interesting as busting into a woman's house at 3 o'clock in the morning, chasing her around, beating her, pulling all the fucking pedals off a plastic plant for some reason, threatening to kill everybody, and then chasing her around in the middle of the night. That's interesting. I'm sorry. Just objectively, on a Maury the night that's interesting i'm sorry just objectively on a mori level that's interesting you know what i mean that one sells more tickets to shows than anything else oh huge big time uh so july 23rd 2003 this is about two months later uh atlanta says you know what i think we've had about enough of him here we're done yeah they trade him this This is a four-team trade. It is a mess.

Sixers, Timberwolves, Hawks, Knicks are involved in this. He winds up in the Timberwolves. Yeah, this is Latrell Sprewell goes to the Wolves. The Sixers get to trade Keith Van Horn to the Knicks. It's a mess. Anyway, he ends up in Philly. Did he really? Glenn Robinson ends up in Philly.

I don't remember that. This whole trade. He's not there very long. This is the Derek Coleman. Allen Iverson was on this team. Jason Williams. No, not on this team. Kenny Tom, he was already gone by then.

Oh, this is a 2000. 2003, 2004. Yeah, this is the post. I think by this time, there's a limo, Tommy's already gone. Oh, this is a 2000. 2003, 2004. Yeah, this is the post. I think by this time, there's a limo driver that's dead already. Oh, he's been long dead. Jason Williams is still limping around on his bad leg and everything like that.

This is a 33-49 Philadelphia team. God, Jesus. Not very good at all here. He plays in 42 games with Philly that year, 16.6 points a game, 4.5 rebounds. So he's declining a little bit. I mean, he has been distracted by being dressed down by a judge like nothing else.

Imagine if you were in that judge's court and you killed a guy, the amazing speech he would have. That's my point. He is so vicious. Fuck, he would be awesome. He's worse than a murderer in terms of being vicious. I want to hear him sentence Stevie. You molesting, disgusting, vile bastard. You just fucking light him up like a Christmas tree. His buddy's standing in the back drinking a Pabst going, doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter. Bugs, insects crawling out of his shirt. He's standing in a courtroom and he's just got bugs coming out of his ears. With overalls, work boots, and a white t-shirt because that's what he's wearing all these days. And he was sitting in mud, so he's standing up. There's just like a mud stripe up his back. Covered in mud, just drinking beer. You know they weren't catching shit either.

No. They couldn't even keep track of their prods. It was pathetic. He said so. Yeah. He pulled out a goldfish, essentially, and goes, can't catch nothing. Pathetic.

Pathetic. I'm embarrassed of that. That was a day for them. Doesn't matter. He's like, can't catch nothing. Pathetic. Pathetic. I'm embarrassed of that. That was a day for them. Doesn't matter. They're just good buddies. Yeah. They're just good drinking pals.

It's so weird. Well, Glenn has plenty of money to go out drinking after that. $10,730,000. For that season. For that season. Wow. Now, 2004-2005 season here. February 24th, 2005. This year, he's injured and doesn't really play much for philly i don't think he gets on the floor for philly he's traded to the hornets for jamal

mashburn and rodney rogers i remember this blast from the past here march 1st this was just a salary dump though because this is like less than a week later he's waived by new orleans okay so this was uh the sixers willing to take Rodney Rogers and Jamal Mashburn's salary, and then that was way more than his, so they can cut him and it doesn't matter. And they have freed up two roster spots and some cap space. That was one of those deals here.

He makes that year, though, for this, and we'll talk about the end of the season because he'll have an eventful last couple months of the year. $12,071,250. To be traded to New Orleans and cut. To not play, be traded, and be cut. Then to get picked up April 4th by the Spurs. Right.

For just in time for the playoff run. What? He gets picked up just in time for the playoff run. Brent Barry and Tim Duncan and all those guys there. This is, you know, these good Spurs teams from the mid-Tony Parker. All those guys here. 59-23 that season. And then they go to the playoffs.

They beat Denver 4-1 in the conference first round. In the semifinals, they beat the Sonics when there was still a Sonics. 4-2. Beat the Suns 4-1 in the Western Conference finals. And then go all the way to the NBA finals where they beat the Pistons in seven games. Unbelievable. And he wins a ring. What the fuck?

All of this shit, and he's all injured, getting passed around, and somehow ends up winning a ring out of this. Wow. He plays in nine games for the Spurs that year, averages 10 points a game, and wins a fucking championship. Unreal. Then he says, that's enough for me. I retire.

Really? Yep. He's got knee problems big guy a six eight dude with a lot of weight on him that's not not great not great on the knees so uh yeah he makes a total in his career of 80 million 221 250 dollars that we have documented that's a shitload of money unbelievable and averages 20.7 points and 6.1 rebounds per game 20 and 6 every time uh he's very uh very dependable yeah anyway but right to the end right to the end yeah uh january 18th 2007 a couple years go by he's pretty quiet yeah big dog keeps to himself sure

he's got 80 mil big dog likes to keep to himself spend his 80 million motherfucking dollars yeah it's hard to piss away 80 million if you're not like, because he's not a real flashy guy from what I understand. He's not Mike Tyson buying everybody's cell phones and shit like that. He's not. He doesn't have a huge entourage. He kind of sticks to himself. He doesn't have any tigers or anything like that in his property. He does have cars, though, as we find out, because in January 18, 2007, he's pulled over in a 2007 Bentley Continental. That's what he's driving.

So, hey, he's got the dough. He's a big guy. Stretch your shit out. Absolutely. I'm a big guy. I need to stretch my shit out. I've got to get me a Bentley. By the way, January 18, 2007, 2 a.m.

Yeah. Problems. Sure. Every time. By the way, January 18th, 2007, 2 a.m. Yeah. Problems. Sure. Every time.

He's pulled over after swerving in and out of lanes, and he admits that he's had several drinks to the cop, which is, again, not smart. I'm driving a $200,000 vehicle. I've had several drinks. I've had several drinks. How many fucks do you think I give about anything? I had them in the car. Right, right.

It's so nice in here, I forgot it was a car. It felt like a posh living room. So I just poured a cocktail. I don't have like a beer between my legs. Because I clearly don't give a fuck. I don't care. You think Tupac didn't give a fuck? Yeah.

Think about me. Don't ding my shit when you tow it. That's all I ask. I'm driving this drunk. I'm going to drive it behind you. Yeah. Tupac got in a fucking limo. I'm drinking a mixed drink.

It's not a bottle between my legs. I have to find crystal glass with a mixed drink in here. Pineapple and rum. And ice and shit. That's how much I don't give a fuck. One big ice cube. On the rock. I sip it at lights.

I don't care who notices. I don't give a shit. That's how much I don't care. This is $200,000. I could have put it in a Pepsi bottle, but did I know no fuck no that's not one of those water bottles no i like to sip it like this that's giving a fuck so i certainly do not one thing i don't give is a fuck now 2010 yeah his son glenn the third commits to the university of mich Michigan for basketball. I was going to say commits suicide.

I was like, oh my God, how bad is this about to get? Oh, no. No, it's not bad. He commits to Michigan for basketball. He's a very good basketball player. Like we said, he was growing as he got older and did pretty well. He's got another son, too, named, I don't know how you pronounce this g-e-l-e-n oh is that galen it's yeah but it's gotta be just because he's like it's got all the letters of glenn in it i

think that's what it is that might be it that's absolutely what it is but isn't that an irish name galen i think so but i think he literally i think he thought of it as looks like glenn looks like glenn it's like it's galenn glenn see that's what you call him glenn see see how that works that's glenn right there's glenn this one glenn and i'm glenn and this is my dad glenn hold on wait oh shit no he just got arrested no i thought he was behind that was my dad the cops are there he goes dragging him away now so you can tell by the packets of cocaine and heroin that he leaves behind him in the trail so he could find his way home. That was Glenn.

Yeah. So there's an article in March of 2013 that his son, Glenn, he is 6'2", 232 pounds, and he's ranked the number 23 strong side defensive end in the country. All right. And the number six football recruit from the state of Indiana here. And the number six football recruit from the state of Indiana here, they said that he was visiting colleges and he was going to visit a Purdue. And he was going to Michigan to watch one of his brother's games and to check out the campus. He's also looking at Illinois and Minnesota. And he's got a lot of options.

And he said, quote, it was great being up to a school I know i could play at they showed me around they treated me very well it was a great experience and they gave me a better look at what they're really all about overall it was just a great day yeah he is uh 2014 2013 and 2014 indiana high school athletic association 220 pound wrestling Indiana High School Athletic Association 220-pound wrestling champion as well. So he's an athlete. He's a Discus 2014 Indiana High School, whatever the hell, Athletic Association Discus champion. He's the shot put runner-up, the 2013 Discus runner-up, 2013, he's basically just everything he touches he's really, really good at.

He's the newspaper's football defensive player of the year there uh so he's very good they say the only thing he's not good at is basketball oh no he sucks at basketball like he's good at everything else his brother glenn is 6-6 at this point and uh averaging 11 points a game for michigan and uh yeah he's gullen is mulling over offers from illinois minnesota and purdue and uh also arizona and notre dame uh have talked to him as well i've mulled over zero offers from any of them never no one has ever offered me a goddamn thing now you know what if you want to give us like a an honorary degree we'll take it yeah we have nothing hey guys uh we are we really like you to have several of you give us uh honorary degrees you know how many bill cosby has and he's fucking raped i don't want i've never

raped any we're never gonna bring bad a bad name to your school and i didn't want an honorary doctorate no an honorary associate i'm good with that honorary bachelor's degree thank you in like something terrible too that i don't want to know anything about something that's useless yeah something that no yeah very associates of the fucking fine arts french poetry 17th century french poetry give us that i'll take it we'll take it we'll at least be several of you give those though so that we can mull it over yeah no shit jesus so uh so his mother the woman who was you know had her plant picked apart by glenn says about her son glenn quote for one thing he can't play basketball it's probably the only sport he can't play and uh his sister is also a big track star and uh talking about going to college she uh set

records in the state for triple jump and she's like glenn the three-year-old that he was going to fucking no that's the daughter oh okay that's the daughter who's a good high school athlete. Got it. Galen is with the other woman. Understood. Yeah, so, I mean, Jesus Christ. She said, quote about her dad, does her dad like that she's into track?

She said, he's pretty supportive of what I do, even though he's like, you should try basketball, but he knows I'm into track. So, I mean, yeah. She's also like, you know, so he almost killed us all when I was three. And so, you know how that goes. So I might listen to him. Otherwise, he might come in the house and act crazy and start beating me about the hip and leg.

But let's be honest. Who really gives a shit what he wants of me? That's the other thing. He wanted to kill me at one point. He wanted to kill me at one point. I mean, you should at this point just pity me as much as well as pity the Bucks and everybody else who's paid them a lot. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do.

But not nearly as bad as I feel for Glenn Robinson, systems architect for IBM Systems and Storage at RSI Consulting Limited in the greater Northampton area in the UK. Glenn Robinson, president at Baylor Scott and and white medical center uh and trinity he went to trinity university here uh glenn robinson director of finance at holy shit this is hilarious director of finance at habitat for humanity which is what i swear to god unbelievable i completely there is a glenn robinson. I forgot all about that. He went to Princeton, this Glenn Robinson. He's a different kind of cat. Glenn Robinson, newly retired command sergeant major looking for future employment in the San Antonio, Texas area.

Hire this fucking guy. He's a soldier. He came home. He's looking for work. He's got a very nice tie on in his picture. Look at this guy. He looks like a solid guy you'd want to hire. Hire the fuck out of that guy.

Hire Glenn Robinson from San Antonio, Texas. He's on LinkedIn. If you're looking for somebody, I don't know what he does, but he was a U.S. command sergeant major in the Army. Seems like a good dude. How many other Tito Jacksons are there? A lot. A lot, I'm sure.

And finally, Glenn Robinson, the men's basketball coach. What? And finally, Glenn Robinson, the men's basketball coach of the diplomats, the Franklin and Marshall Diplomats College, Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, for the last 50 years. Unreal. A pillar of the community who's helped all these kids. And everybody loves article after article about what a wonderful man he is. And if you look up Glenn Robinson basketball, he's on page five wow of uh this you're getting other glenn robinson so 2014 gellen robinson

galen is at college at purdue he decides to go to purdue uh he is put in the diversion agreement program in august after being cited for alcohol consumption by Purdue University Police. So he was drinking in college when he was 19. That's what that means. Who cares? June of 2014, Glenn III, Old Trey, as his grandma calls him, is drafted by the Minnesota Timberwolves, number 40 overall. That's right. Old Trey's still in the league, babe.

No kidding. He has rings. He was on the Warriors the last couple of years. Oh, shit. He's won rings, man. Trey Robinson? He's got the Warriors the last couple years. He's won rings, man. He's got rings on his fingers, man. That's Glenn Robinson's third. Glenn the third, chief, yeah. Wow.

He's been in the league for years. He's bounced around a few teams. How come I didn't put that together? I don't know. Maybe because he's not a fat fuck. Yeah, that's probably it. If he had a big gut and a jersey that was too baggy, he'd go, is that Glenn Robinson's good? He looks like him he is ugly as fuck though well i mean it happens wow i don't know i had no idea that was his kid

that's his kid man so weird right yeah june of 2015 he's now a sophomore galen at purdue he's arrested for operating a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol content of 0.15 or higher it's like an extreme dui that's a double the legal limit dui and uh illegal possession of an alcoholic beverage he's not even 21 yet no kidding he is 20 this is his second alcohol infraction and that's a that's a good dui that's a yeah that's healthy that's a healthy one yeah that's you got a good healthy buzz going at that that's a that's an i don't give a fuck yeah dui that's when like you and your friends start punching each other and it's fun right right hey hit me that's hilarious in front of a cop that's that's that level of drunk that you're at there so they're uh yeah he's booked uh in the uh tip a canoe jail and uh later released

and uh his coach is talking about he's already in trouble at school for the first one and so his coach said we'll let him know shortly and the rest of the team know exactly what we'll do with him there's a penalty to be paid he's owned up to his mistakes and now he has to do some things to put him back in the graces of the program that's where we are right now without giving out what

may or may not be he knows he has some things to do and there will be a slight there will still be a penalty to come down. So we never find out what that penalty is. But in March of 2016, this is awesome, he's in a feud with Stephen A. Smith, Glenn Robinson,

which is great. I would love Glenn Robinson to power bomb Stephen A. Smith because I fucking cannot stand Stephen A. Smith. Or Skip Bells. The two of them together. I would like to see them together somewhere and have somebody just fucking power bomb the both of them.

I'd like it to be Glenn Robinson because he owes him. Glenn says he's pissed off at him and he wants to fucking basically, he wants to beat up Stephen A. Smith. Really? Yeah, he says, quote, he said some things about me in one of his articles and then I saw

him in Denver, and the guy speaks to me. A few words were exchanged, and I ended up in his face. It almost got physical, and we all know what the outcome would have been if it got physical. Yeah. Yeah, you're gigantic. And he's not. He is not, but he's got a loud fucking mouth on him. He does. His mouth is as big as Glenn Robinson.

His mouth is as big as his stomach. Right. If only, yeah, they put those two things together. Glenn Robinson also says, quote, we can take it to the cage. Let's get it off your chest, my brother. Oh, boy. So he wants to fucking set up a fight with Stephen A. Smith. A cage match. A cage match, which I would love to watch Glenn Robinson pummel Stephen A. Smith.

I'd enjoy it. I don't care if he went to his fiance's house ten times and did what he did. I would still go, you're still better than Stephen A. Smith. I'd enjoy it. I don't care if he went to his fiance's house ten times and did what he did. I would still go, you're still better than Stephen A. Smith, because at least you're not every day on TV spewing your horse shit. So, yeah. Smith says that this started after

Smith accused Robinson of favoring white coaches over black coaches. Stephen A. Smith called him an Uncle Tom and he said, I'll fuck you up, mother don't I dare you say shit about me. He says, quote, I just, this is Stephen A. Smith, I despise him, and he despises me. He says that my issue with Glenn Big Dog Robinson was that, okay, he didn't play well, and he got 69, was not that, okay, he didn't play well, and he got 69 million or anything like

that. It was that I saw this man march lockstep with former Bucks coach George Carl with what he wanted to do because George Carl's getting paid $7 million a year. He said, but Randy Ayers comes in as the head coach of the Sixers. You treated this man like trash, but you'll come and talk to reporters about how brothers need to facilitate brothers being hired. But you had one, and how did you treat him uh so that's what he said he basically said you you took the side of a white coach and you had a black coach then he treated him like shit uh maybe he didn't like that all with one breath with one that man can somehow get every word out that he's ever thought in one breath he's never breathed he's had breathed one gasp of air yeah in about 2032 he's gonna go that's good that's good right there he's like he's like let me tell you son right big dog glenn

robinson that's what i heard when you started i was like god i hate him already glenn big dog robinson why i don't like the big dog like and that's a new york accent that even makes me annoyed i know he's i just well i hate that accident i hate the new york accent anyway because you hate everything about yourself he's also a bitch doing it he's also a douche that's the thing so he's talking about that meanwhile he's not behind the scenes no he doesn't know it maybe i think it's okay so's. Okay. So he's. What if Glenn Robinson thought Randy Ayers was a shit coach? Yeah. He's supposed to just be like, we got to keep him in power and as our coach and we'll all

suck because he's like, he's not. He wants to fucking win. Right. I think that's what they're talking about is he's. Glenn Robinson's like, probably I would love to have a black coach, but they need to be as good of a coach as George Carl. Right. Because I want to fucking win.

That's the point. I think. Anyway, that's where George. That's that's his point of view. Yeah. Carl, because I want to fucking win. That's the point. I think, anyway, that's where George, that's his point of view, but I'm not going to get between. I don't care what color or sex they are, as long as they're good at what we're doing. But then again, on the same point,

I don't know how to get between two black guys having a black guy problem beef. Those are black guy issues. They are. That's like women beefing with women over not supporting women. I can't, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to do that. Stephen A. Smith might be over not supporting women i can't yeah i don't know i don't know steven a smith might be right i don't fucking know i don't know who's right

because it's honestly none of our business it couldn't be any less of our business so it's one of those things that's like i don't know if you want to get it sucked out get it sucked out it's your body you know what i'm saying like you know i'm here y'all fight it out. Whoever wins will all support. Tell me how much I got to give. So December. Tell me how much 50% of that is. Remember that joke I had that was so awful. That was a great joke, but it was a bad one. So December 2016, Glenn Robinson and Alan Henderson, once again together, will be both inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame.

Really? The state's 2017 class. Alan Henderson. They'll be the 10th and 11th players inducted in their first year of eligibility, along with Steve Alford, Damon Bailey, Kent Benson, Larry Bird, Kyle Macy, Georgecginnis rick mount oscar robinson so there's some some hall of famers in there oscar robinson and larry bird that's what robertson larry bird that's it yeah well uh uh george mcginnis was around for a while too i think he wasn't a he wasn't a great player i think he played for a while anyway uh but yeah i mean bird and robinson robertson are

two of the top 50 all-time players. They're great. So anyway, Glenn Robinson, he's out there. He's wandering around. His kid's playing in the NBA. He seems to be fine. Keep an eye on his other one. Can't get enough of Glenn Robinson?

Well, go on eBay. There's plenty of Glenn Robinson cards. It's all there. There was 10 million brands of cards in the mid-'90s, so he's on all of them. They're like a buck or two. Or a sixer or a hawk. Oh. Well done. Back at you. That was for the reach

for earlier. That was for the share joke. She did? Yeah. Ooh. And also, you can get a Purdue jersey that he never made a penny off of. You can buy it again so he doesn't make a dime off again if you want. Get that one. Or get a get a bucks jersey number 13 uh get it authentic get it like a size 64 triple wide

do it authentic style yeah i get it just put it over your car if you're not using it and then you can put it on and shoot some hoops on cover your pool in the winter with it winterize it winterize your olympic pool in the winter and you'll be good with the word robinson's from side to side number 13 huge letters i found one for $29.99 with free shipping on ebay so triple x that's a good deal grab that shit and that my friends is glenn robinson the big dog. Indeed. Holy shit. What a mess.

Tito, get your shovel. Jermaine! Jermaine! Get the shovel. So that is that. Next week, by the way, we will do some sort of violence. There'll be a violence story. Oh, great. There'll be a murder, rape, robbery, something.

Not great. But it'll be something violent because we've just kind of keep it light with the fun stuff lately and have a bunch of coke and crack. Oh, this was fun. This was a fun one. Yeah, this was a lot of fun. And this, yeah, by the way, we have to tell you guys, Crime and Sports Live, thank you guys for coming up. We didn't have a lot of time in the top of the show to talk about it, but God damn it, you guys were an amazing crowd.

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