Crime in Sports - #190 - The Prince Has Problems - The Troublesomeness of Brian "Grandmaster Sexay" Christopher Lawler

Episode Date: January 7, 2020

This week, we check out what it's like to follow your legendary father's footsteps into the profession that made him famous. We find out that it has advantages, and disadvantages, but it doesn't explain the road that he went down. He just couldn't understand that taking several different kinds of drugs, on a regular basis, wasn't a good life plan. The whole thing comes to an absolutely crazy conclusion, filled with many more questions than answers!! Struggle to follow your famous father's footsteps, spiral out of control with drugs, and be the subject of a $3 million lawsuit with Brian "Grandmaster Sexay" Christopher Lawler!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder#  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Not just small-town murder stuff. We're going to do a bunch of stuff here. We got some ideas of what to do for Crime and Sports bonus to make it a little bit different. But for today, wow. We have quite the show i can't wait well you know it's it's one of those things every once in a while we do we have our crazy sports okay we just do we have and there's certain ones are crazier than others our mma guys are always nuts somehow they always end up leading the charge it's boxers too boxers are that's just a lot of pounding to the brain so they're but mma fighters involve guns and then they hide them in plastic containers they should

boxers too they kidnap their families they punch their mom they you know they do a bunch of crazy shit hidden a fucking house and tweet that was amazing that was amazing I think a box a boxer did that at one time too but there's one sport that encompasses all of these things where you get it all you get the crazy from one sport, the crazy from the other and it's all mixed up into one big stew of CTE and just an insane lifestyle and that is

professional wrestling everybody. And that's where we are today. The king of these sports and possibly my favorite episodes to do because I was a big wrestling fan back in the day there and And it's very interesting. People know that. Yeah.

And it's interesting. It's just it's just interesting. And the parallels to stand up comedy are so, so clear that it's just it's it gives me fucking agita sometimes when I'm reading about this stuff. I'm getting heartburn going, oh, God, I know what you're the lack of pay. And then the physical punishment. It's granted. One is getting punched in the face physically and the other one is punched in the face metaphorically. At the end of the night, you feel the same way and you're both on drugs.

That's the point. That's the point. And neither of you can afford them. Neither of you can afford them. That's the issue. So let's get into this right now. This we're going to do. It's Brian Christopher.

You might remember from WWE there. We'll talk about who he was. Brian Christopher Lawler, Jerry Lawler's kid. Yeah, it's Brian Christopher Lawler, Jerry Lawler's kid. He went as Brian Christopher in WWF at the time in the late 90s, and then he was Grandmaster Sexay, if you remember that. Oh, yeah. It was a joke.

Unhinged Jerry Lawler gave birth to, well, he didn't give birth to. Well, he didn't give birth. He had a hand in creating another one that was just fucking like him. No. Brian's actually, Brian seems like a good but troubled guy. Jerry, in my opinion, and people might have a different opinion, as a human being, seems like a real piece of shit. Yeah.

To me, anyway. Everything I've heard about him, obviously, I don't know the man but everything i've heard about him and the charges that were leveled against him that they'll have his own episode someday um he just seems like a complete weirdo scumbag who possibly likes girls are a little too young for him let's just put it that way uh oh yeah he was a charged for that sort of thing but brian is a different kind of kid he's different i mean he's a guy as we'll talk, who's trying to live up to his dad's reputation. We haven't talked about too many guys whose fathers were like a legend in what they did. You know what I mean?

We'll get juniors and shit like that, but not to the point where they're so overshadowed by their father. We'll get into Brian here. Brian's from Jake theake the snake that's yeah and jake the snake was a bigger star than his dad so that you know jake was a way bigger star than grizzly smith ever was and you know the some of the i'm trying to think like carrie von eric was a bigger star than fritz ever was i think those guys in the in the eight i mean fritz was a big star for years but when that when the von erics were popular in the 80s, that was, wow, were they popular. But Jerry the King, he is the king of Memphis. I mean, he was the number one star in Memphis.

Everybody else used to go from town to town, and they'd work different territories. Jerry stayed in Memphis. That was it. He was the king of fucking Memphis and lived there and bought into the territory and became an owner of that, so he was always there. Brian is born January 10, 1972, so it's almost his birthday, actually, here, in Memphis, Tennessee, obviously. Anything Jerry Lawler did is going to be very Memphis-based here.

Like I said, he has a half-brother, or I'm sorry, a brother, whole brother, named Kevin. He's later on going to be a referee that goes under, I think Kevin Christian is his referee name. But yeah, he'll be a wrestling referee and a sister named Heather also here. Brian and Kevin, Brian is the older one, was born. They were born 10 months apart. Oh, Jesus.

That's really close. Sherry was horny. You're not supposed to fuck for like, what, six, eight weeks after you have a baby. Like he got in there. It was like, you're not supposed to fuck for like what six eight weeks after you have a baby like he got in there it was like you're fine don't worry about it and he got in there a pumping right i feel like you're gonna be all right those stitches were barely oh come on now i'll just put it in a little bit it's all right so i don't know what the fuck here it's like no not again yeah so yeah uh they were born uh he's born january obviously kevin's in november kevin said quote every year after it was my birthday we'd be the same age for

two months so they were brothers that were the same age for two months which is which is interesting as shit now uh he jerry says that brian kind of you know to, he would try to needle him a little bit when he was younger. Yeah. In little ways. Like, you know, a lot of times, like sports, if your family's a sports family, you're either going to like the same team as your dad or you're going to like that team's rival. Right.

There's no outside thing. You know. So Jerry is a big, Jerry the King's a big Browns fan. Okay. He grew up kind of in Ohio, became a big Browns fan. So Brian becomes a big Steelers fan. There you go. It's a rivalry.

Jerry feels to irk him here. This house divided. That's what it is. And Jerry said, quote, and this is a lot of information here. Really good article in the Daily Beast that had a lot of good background info on them. So a lot of this comes a lot of this kind of background comes from there. He says, Jerry says, quote, Brian told me he was watching a football game one day, and he told himself he'd follow whichever team won. That's how he claimed he became a Steelers fan.

But I don't believe it. I think he did it to go against me just to be rebellious. You know, it's kind of, you know, that sort of thing. And Jerry, oh, man, it's so weird. These father-son relationships in wrestling are strange. They're very strange. They have this air of, I don't know what it is. They'll help their son out, but at the same time, when the father's a promoter, it's almost

like they treat their kid like they're trying to scam them by becoming a wrestler. It's really a weird thing. So it's not like a Mufasa Simba thing. No, that's not at all. That's what I mean. It's always like it's kind of the opposite, actually. Like Vince McMahon, the current WWE guy, jumped through a lot of hoops to buy that shit from his dad. His dad didn't give it to him or will it to him really he had to have a huge high interest balloon payment fucking loan that

in the stipulations were any payments missed everything goes back to the original partners he loses everything he's put in has no part of the company one payment missed wow fucking done and that included a huge balloon payment at the end of it where he had to hit to be able to keep the company otherwise it went back to his dad's partnership that seems like a bad business opportunity yeah that's why he went crazy and tried to steal everybody and got hulk hogan and all these people because if he didn't guess what the payment it was good that's fuck you pay me he had to have his money that was it so he had to fucking i'll steal people and i gotta make that money, man. That's what it was.

So it's weird. And Jerry kind of had that thing with Brian a little bit here. And their parents, Jerry and his wife, Brian's mother, her name's Kay, they split up in 1978. So the brother stayed with the mother, and that's kind of how that worked kind of normal arrangement but uh kevin brian's brother said quote even though saturday morning wrestling was the biggest thing our mom's house looked like everyone else's house we went to public school and my father didn't live with us so it's not like our friends would knock on the door and he'd be there that's the thing they're from the early mid 70s on. Jerry Lawler's the biggest star in Memphis. Wrestling was, I can't express to how big Memphis wrestling was in Memphis.

The rating they would get would be, you know, literally more than half the televisions in the viewing area would be watching Memphis wrestling on Saturday morning. More than half. That's amazing. Yeah, nothing would beat them in terms of ratings-wise in that local area. So they stayed strong even through the 90s Memphis existed and all the other territories went out of business. So there's some crazy wrestling connection in Memphis. They really, really have, and it's strong.

It's really strong there, and Jerry was the number one guy. So he's saying they didn's really strong there. And Jerry was the number one guy. So he's saying like, you know, they didn't have like a mansion. Like, oh, Jerry, the King Lawler's family lives in a mansion. And he wasn't there like with his crown on hanging out in the house. And so the red robe with the white. Yeah. The red. Yeah.

With the singlet. Yeah. The stupid fucking singlet. Yeah. And you take off when he thought he was tough. Yeah. The end of the thing. We're watching Jerry Lawler match. match no they're pretty fucking funny the only ones i really watched

were uh the ones where he wrestled um god damn the comedian dandy coff yeah yeah that those are great that era man he was good jerry was good he's not like a real great athlete or anything like that but fuck man he'd have that crowd going yeah he'd get that crowd into it and he was a he was a great showman they loved him he knew what to do every little motion he could he could do one little movement and get the crowd to go nuts which was really impressive uh but yeah they said when they would go to jerry's house you know to visit on on visits it was a different story then it was like all wrestling because jerry had bought into the memphis territory so he worked in the office and all that so they said the boys would like look through all his notepads and you know fucking see like what was gonna happen

they'd be like oh shit this guy's go cool that guy's gonna turn into a bad guy you know shit like that he's gonna turn heel wow look at that like that which for a little kid they watch wrestling saturday mornings like everybody else that's oh i get to see what's gonna happen fascinating that's fucking awesome uh but yeah lawler is so lucky that he didn't have to go all around the country and these kids are lucky too because generally if the family was together everybody would move right it would be living in a trailer or a fucking car or a car they'd pack up their car every six months every year and they'd go to another place in memphis and now we're going to the northwest we're going to portland and now we're going to minnesota we're

going to go to texas i mean imagine let's that's a life a lot of these people's kids lived uh until the guys started making enough money to where they could kind of home base and then just fly out of wherever they are but you know back in those days you lived around the territory you were in stuff that's where all the local spots were. So, but here it was good. So Brian always got to, Jerry was around, you know, on the weekends and everything else. So, yeah, they were, they were really huge though. Wrestling is huge. He said, Kevin said, quote, as a kid, it was so cool to be in the car with him, with Jerry

and pull into a McDonald's and the whole place would run over to the drive-thru window going ape shit. Wow. Because their dad's the most famous guy in fucking memphis so yeah um now uh they have different things in this article they talk about how kevin jerry's a really good artist he draws jerry lawler jerry lawler's an amazing artist really oh god yeah he does a lot of shit he's even done like uh cover art on wwe video releases in the 90s and shit like that and uh yeah he'd make posters look up jerry lawler art it's really good i mean if you'll want to see like wrestlers and shit but i mean his drawings are remarkable i mean i can't draw like that so he's really really fucking good but uh so kevin was was

good there uh that's how jerry got into whole, into wrestling, was through his sketches. He made sketches of the wrestlers, and they wanted him to make more, and then eventually he got in and started wrestling. Most of these guys are in it forever, get in it when they're kids. They get in it, they take pictures, or they take ring coats or sell soda at the arena, or they get in it when they're kids. They sell programs. That's how you get ingrained.

That's how you get into it. Indoctrinated. Yeah, it's like the mafia. It's the same thing. When you watch Goodfellas, they get Henry Hill and Tommy when they're kids and they bring them in and you can trust them

and you treat them your way. That's what they did with these kids and they wouldn't tell them shit about wrestling and then eventually they kind of smartened them up a little bit more. Eventually they'd let them in the locker room and they'd see what was going on. They're a wise guy.

Yeah, exactly. Before you know it, they got some 20-year-old kid directing their tv show and doing shit like that and i said they were working burning a wrestling buddy in their hand in a locker room that's exactly how it works so uh yeah but brian was super into wrestling he was just all about wrestling and he's the apparently the more uh the more he's more into sports. And Jerry's very much into sports. Jerry one time, I think, blew out his knee playing touch football in the park and wasted a huge angle that they had. That was like this big hot angle.

They had sellouts for it. He couldn't wrestle because he fucked his knee up. Imagine playing play. Yeah, they were like, dude, you got to stop doing that. Vince Vince would ruin somebody. Yeah, that shit. Yeah. Vince would ruin somebody for that shit. Yeah, luckily Jerry was in charge. The boss can do what he wants.

He can maneuver it. They just made it. I think they ended up saying that somebody, one of the bad guys beat him up or some shit. They jumped him and fucked his knee up. That's what they used to do with anybody. If they had a legit injury, they'd be like, oh, it was that guy that did it. Clearly. Yeah, clear.

Look at him. They jumped him. That's what happened. So Kevin said about Brian and Jerry, quoteerry quote they play the intellivision baseball and football games together for hours and hours that's the old school video game i think that was the favorite part of brian's life because he'd have all the time with my father uninterrupted so brian always wants his father to dig to notice him to tries to get his father's uh approval all the time he's very much into that he's very much uh wants his father's approval whereas kevin's a little

more kind of aloof about the whole thing he doesn't really care uh i guess people would ask him uh they would ask the kids uh you know is wrestling you know wrestling fake right and blah blah blah because they knew that their dad was Jerry Lawler and they were supposed to say I can show you better than I could tell you oh god and then he'd fucking wrap him up and then try yeah then beat the kid up and say see no it's not fake how fake did that feel that well that's that's how the guys did it in bars back in the day was people come up what you do is fake oh really and then they'd knock you the fuck out and then everybody it'd be in the paper that some wrestler knocked everyone out and that was good for business yeah he's tough

i'm gonna go watch him fight at all i see i see real black eyes on my friend now they're like oh what a dick oh what a jerk he's huge and i don't care what that guy's saying he didn't deserve to be beaten like that whereas back then they go shut your mouth if you don't want to get your ass kicked it's a different story shouldn't have been yelling at that big motherfucker you want him to punch you Whereas back then they'd go, shut your mouth if you don't want to get your ass kicked. It's a different story. Shouldn't have been yelling at that big motherfucker. He'd want him to punch you. Freedom of speech, not from that big motherfucker.

He ain't going to give you freedom of nothing. Freedom of speech from the government, but he'll whip your ass. He's going to kick your fucking ass. He's going to knock your teeth down your throat. He's got the freedom to do that. Brian said, quote, I had to learn from a really uh from a really early age how to fight and how to fight really good people would say wrestling was fake and those are fighting words to me so yeah he'd have to quote protect the business back then so we're talking early your mama's a bitch back yeah that's your dad's a phony right that's

what they're saying your dad's a phony yeah that's That's what they're saying. Your dad's a phony. Yeah. And for Brian, you can't say anything about his dad. How dare you. That's it here. They said his hero of wrestling growing up was Nature Boy, not Ric Flair, not even Buddy Rogers, but Buddy Landell. I don't know him. Okay, Buddy Landell is known as one of the most self-destructive. He'll have an episode someday, too.

He's hilarious. He's a fucking disaster. He's a guy who's had the most opportunities. People have brought him into territories going, we're going to really bring this guy to the top. And then he gets drunk and drives his car into the city hall front doors. And he's banned from the town from now on. And they have to fire him.

That's the type of dumb shit he does. He's just an idiot. One of those guys. That was so much fun. That was like saying, who's your favorite Sugar Ray? Robinson? No then is it leonard no no mark mcgrath caruso that one that's not a person sugar ray caruso made him uh yeah that's it so yeah buddy landell to like old school wrestling fans he was a good wrestler too he's a good worker and shit like that but he never got to the level of you know a rick flair or jerry lawler or one of these legendary guys here uh other than among the guys

in wrestling knew he's a good worker so uh uh yeah he said uh he would he would obviously he said he learned to wrestle uh learn he said quote i learned to wrestle sitting in the front row and watching wrestling because i never actually trained yeah but they're around it so much these guys uh anybody can see it enough you can do it that's the thing if you just watch it if you're athletic if you're athletic and inclined and you know if you can dunk you can probably do whatever guys do the dunk exactly but you might not be able to dribble up to that dunk unless you practice a little that may take some time that may take that's a different thing he said anybody can learn to give someone a body slam suplex or put someone in a figure four leg lock

but i but i learned how to entertain the crowd if you can make those people cheer and stand on their feet in between doing moves now you've set yourself apart and that's the whole thing of jerry lawler if you want he has an advantage of watching his dad and going okay my dad he probably has a two-inch vertical jump. He's not flying around the ring. He's not doing anything like that. But when he makes a fist like he's going to punch the guy, the crowd goes fucking crazy.

Oh, shit, he's going to punch him. So he knows how to work the crowd. He learned that's the important thing. Brian also, he's only about 5'10 when he grows up. Jerry's not much bigger, I think. No, Jerry's not a big guy. He's not even super chiseled either. No, God, no.

Jerry was doughy. Even in the 70s and 80s, Jerry was a doughy fuck. Which is weird because he's not a drinker. That's another thing that I find weird about Jerry. Jerry is a total teetotaler. He said he's never had a drink, only drinks Coke. That's it. Anyone who's never had a drink or doesn't curse is probably a

pedophile in my book that's just i'm sorry yeah someone goes i've never had a drink i go how many kids you fuck last week because you're a kid fucker or i don't curse no because you expend all your energy fucking kids so you don't have time you can't muster that fuck that's a hard word it's a fuck and a cut it's hard you're drained from kid fucking it's difficult for you sorry sorry but it's true good lord who did you know that didn't drink didn't swear and just fucked everyone who doesn't drink or swear everyone who doesn't drink and swear priests yeah they drink but they don't swear because they're fucking kids god damn it they have to you know back in the day when i was a kid that happened those super mormon fucks you know

that's what i mean super extreme lds i'm sorry look at the people you know if you know anyone who and i'm not talking about your grandmother if someone was born in 1936 and they're like i don't think it's proper to curse she's not not a pedophile. Anyone under the age of 60 right now, never had a drink, doesn't curse, they've touched a kid. Be questionable of them. Don't leave your kids with them, at least. I'll tell you that much.

It's your fault for having them come down there and babysit. Sorry, Uncle Howie. I know you've never had a drink before, and that's great. I know you won't get drunk and beat my kids, but you will fuck them, I think. So, no. Holy shit. That's a wild accusation that was swinging swinging wild on that one every once in a while i'll throw some roundhouses i'm not gonna i'm not above that i'm not gonna fucking lie i'll drop some bombs i'm not gonna

lie it's hysterical though it's just like the most innocent person and they're the worst they always are that's the thing it's like what do you put parsley on your fucking eggs what do you molest no i'm telling you i have nine puppies in your spare time you know who you know who really really hated cursing and you weren't allowed to curse around michael jackson oh yeah it was the biggest thing. Yeah. Not allowed. No, don't use that kind of language. He'd tell famous people around him. Yeah. Because it's hurtful.

Yeah. Because he's weird and he wants to keep himself pure so kids will think it's okay. Right. That's how I feel like it is. Like, if I temper myself never to curse, then I won't curse around kids so they won't consider me an adult. Right. And I'm like them and I can get in there.

Creeps. Everybody curse and drink once in a while. Put it that way. Swear to Christ, if they don't swear, they don't drink, and they got orange slices, watch out. If you're going to watch my kid, you're going to stand next to me. I'm going to pour you a shot of whiskey, and I'm going to go, nice fucking day, right? You better go, fuck yeah it is, and slam that shit down, or else you're not watching my fucking kid. Period.

I'll skip whatever I got planned tonight and fuck out of my house. You bet your filthy shit covered ball sack I do. It's beautiful out there. Pow. Then I'm like, that's my man right here. He's all right. You excited to watch my kids? Not fucking really.

I want to watch the game, but I'll do it. Perfect. You're my guy. Exactly what i'm looking for not i got a lot of games planned i got orange slices and snacks and i made i got sunday makings no i brought connect four connect four stay away from my family don't connect shit with my kid mother i will pull a gun on you for that shit i got battleship and connect four in the trunk you show up you show up with battleship and sunday makings you're getting off my property at gunpoint period that's

all there is to you show up in a fucking hell's angels jacket with a bottle of vodka under your arm i'm gonna go all right and then go how long you gonna be yeah i gotta date tonight i gotta plow this fucking broad i'm like like, my man. All right. But you're not going to. I don't care what you do on the outside, but you're not going to touch my kids. You're not interested in them at all. And that makes me happy. So, yeah.

So anyway, the brothers here at their mother's house, they had a what they call the Neighborhood Wrestling Association, which was NWA, which was the wrestling back then. so they're making their own little nwa uh here this is long before mc ren yeah oh yeah this is national wrestling alliance is what they're going off of not the not you know yeah so you know those guys with attitude you know those fellas those brothers yeah so uh kevin says quote this was before anyone knew the term backyard wrestling there wasn't backyard wrestling yet uh when no adults were around we'd get everyone together hey let's do a show the walls the couches the chairs were ropes the arms of the couches were the turnbuckles which kind of every kid did that if you had someone to jump off of a couch corner and pretend it was a turnbuckle you were fucking doing it if that couch like i have figure forward my cousin jesse on more than one occasion yeah but more than one occasion i'm i'm thinking about how do you fucking

get off that like if you bounce off the back of it yeah and when you come back that couch is gonna flip over oh yeah yeah you gotta push it up against the walls is the only way to do it. You got to do that. But you got to get your arm over it. If you're small enough, you don't even have to use the arm of the couch. You can get up on the back of the couch and use that and then you can do like snook off the cage if you're back in that era. Yeah, yeah, like our fucking

McFully in the cell or some shit like that. You can go way up there. Oh boy. So they're doing, you know know pretending to wrestle like all kids that are huge wrestling fans here so uh they jesus christ they said one match uh brian came off the couch with an elbow and destroyed the christmas tree i believe i guess rolled off of and rolled and just fell over and he destroyed the whole christmas tree which imagine if you're that mother and you have these two boys and you have a girl too but you have these two boys and you come home and you're your fucking

christmas tree is destroyed how much that thing fucking and they're standing there in the living room like it was an elbow mom it was a fly i i if i landed it he would have been if i hit him with it it was over it was the finisher i almost won he moved what do you want from me i don't know i don't know 80 that'd be nice you win some you lose some i don't know what to tell you so uh jerry lawler later said quote kevin may have been might have been more the booker uh of the whole thing here so like kevin would uh set up the matches and shit like that here uh um it's yeah um jesus christ um brian says quote or is this probably yeah the only time i ever struck one of those guys uh was when kevin got a job at a store and was fired for stealing oh no says jerry i remember talking about he never hit the kids uh when kevin got a job at the store

and was fired for stealing i remember i brought him to my house and put him against the wall and i slapped him then i found out he was taking lights and other materials they needed for their wrestling ring oh that's what they were doing he was stealing a little bit of material here and there for to build a wrestling ring that's awesome to fuck around in the backyard which that's that's like you know if kids building a half pipe or i mean that's just being resourceful it's being kids and you i mean your dad is pretty rich so you maybe should have just asked him for a couple of bucks maybe that's that yeah maybe not steal it as the first option yeah i don't know though we piece together all kinds of wild shit oh yeah you figure some shit out you go you know i don't know something you'll steal from your job yeah that's a good point that's not smart i stole a milk crate to make a basketball hoop but that i

mean yeah that was on the back of a grocery store i think yeah but they those are just to storage anyway they don't sell milk crates. Well, Shamrock Farms considers that a part of their... They take it back and forth. They'll fucking prosecute. Will they? Oh, my God. If you have one of their crates, I might have a few. They will prosecute.

Oh, I'm going to collect them. Yeah. My whole closet. I'm fucking snatching them. I'm fucking filling them now. That's hilarious. I'm going to send them pictures of them. Hold them for ransom.

I'm going to send pictures. Send pictures with the end of a shotgun near them yeah i got some of your friends here and just send them a picture i think that'd be great like a burner phone and everything doing just to fuck with them and destroy like melt them down except for the logo that's it guys that's one down for every day you don't give me what i want another two are gonna go down you better find liam neeson motherfucker mr ransom so uh they said on christmas or birthdays that jerry would give them like masks and capes and wrestling attire shit like that that would because he jerry had his own seamstress that did his robes and everybody wrestling like whatever territories had their own guys like there's somebody who made like all the like some guy in florida that made all the wwe

tights and like some guy in here that made all of these guys there's a guy in new york city that made everybody's masks there was like all these weird specialists yeah one guy who made all the fucking belts it's a weird thing like it's they're very specialty things and guys do it for a long time and all these seamstresses were like these ladies who these guys would buy literally like those rick flair robes are five to ten thousand dollars really in the 80s wow five to ten grand what do you think those fucking belts cost oh the belts i think they said those go like 20 grand i think because it's all plated shit and whatever but they're they're fucking expensive yeah they're like the old nwa right you know big gold belt type of thing that thing was enormous yeah shit like that when they throw

it over their shoulder you hear it slap oh yeah it's heavy as fuck it's a big heavy belt i've held the intercontinental belt really it's fucking heavy or a replica of it it's pretty goddamn heavy yeah that the fucking uh uh where the hell the hell had that the honky tonk man had it at one of the comic con things i brought my daughter to. I was like, holy shit. Look at this. I'm going to hold that. We're here for you, but I'm going to go stare at the Honky Tonk Man for a minute. See if he does anything crazy.

He didn't. It wasn't any fun. Kevin said, quote, that was way cooler than underoos. We even had spandex tights. Hell yeah. Yeah. As a little kid who was a wrestling fan, I would have loved to have some fucking wrestling robes. That would have been awesome.

Absolutely. Some fucking cape. That would have been cool as shit. I don't know what I would have done with it, but it would have been great. So, yeah, they said that they befriended a bunch of kids and a lot of kids also who they knew from the wrestling matches because the Mid-South Coliseum in Memphis was weekly.

So I think it was Monday nights. It was every week they were there. So people would have season tickets. People would be the same people in the same seats a lot of times for years. So you'd get to know the people around you. And they said they recruited a bunch of kids, and they had for their backyard wrestling. And Jerry said about them, quote,

Kevin was as passionate for the business as Brian, but Kevin didn't look the part of a wrestler. Brian was more physically endowed. Well, that didn jesus christ see what i mean see what i'm saying uh he became a bodybuilder unfortunately that was the first thing that messed him up getting involved in steroids obviously uh he see uh he says uh i mean look at what you do you give yourself a shot i could never give myself a shot at anything, of anything. But once you give yourself a shot of one thing, I think it's easier to give yourself a shot of something else. He's talking about, yeah, once you start injecting things, that's a big threshold to cross. So I'm going to stick a needle in myself, not have a doctor do it and wince.

That's a wobbly bridge. Yeah. Once you cross that bridge. It's over. You can just stick needles in you. That's a wobbly bridge. Yeah. Once you cross that bridge, it's over. You can just stick needles in you. That's a, that's a whole other area. Yeah.

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for a little while and you're like alright there back to work it was like you did it and then you were high for a little while and you're like all right there back to work and you just like did your thing and you were fine still i couldn't do it no way there'd be no good uh now uh his mom said about him this is what k says about brian uh this is in an article uh in in uh the early 90s when brian first starts getting into wrestling mom says quote Brian only wrestles to get Jerry's attention hey dad I exist oh that's what he says about him and you're this is where this is where it gets interesting because he starts wrestling in USWA which is what Memphis turned into in the early 90s and he starts wrestling there in the early 90s around 93 92

here I can't remember we have the exact schedule here 92 he starts wrestling there in the early 90s around 93 92 here i can't remember we have the exact schedule here 92 he starts wrestling uh and it's a it's a weird catch 22 because on one hand like let's say you were an 18 year old kid or you know 20 year old kid in 1993 i know you were 12 or 13 but let's say you were you were 20 and you wanted to be a wrestler in 1993 yeah how would you do that um i don't know you look up wrestling in the yellow pages to see if there's like a wrestling school class there was no internet that's what i mean you look it up if there's no wrestling school or something under w for wrestling in the yellow pages then what nothing you just sit there and you go shit i guess it don't exist i guess i'll wait until it happens that's i mean you have nothing you can literally nothing you can do about it

you just sit there how would you get into it what do you drive to the matches and try to get people's attention and ask them i mean that's people have done that and that's how a lot of people got into the business but that's a that's a really pushy thing to do that you you know a lot of people aren't you wouldn't know what to do is what I'm getting at. So there's a certain advantage to your father not only being a world-famous wrestler who's the biggest guy in the territory, not only that, but co-owner of the territory. The advantage is if you want to be a wrestler, you know where to go. Yeah, he knows where to look for him. You don't have to go, who do I talk to? How do I train?

How do I get into it? Are they going to just beat me up and throw me out? Is it the other end of the dinner table, dummy? what i mean so that's an advantage on the other hand it's also a disadvantage because once you get into it now you're either you have two options you're either jerry lawler's son which means you're fucked right because you're jerry lawler's son you look like it looks like it is nepotism it's not and it also you're never because you're Jerry Lawler's son. It looks like it is nepotism. And it also, you're never going to be Jerry Lawler. Even if it's not nepotism, it's always nepotism. Yeah, exactly. Also, at the same time, Jerry Lawler doesn't want that

because then he looks old if he's got a son wrestling. Even though Jerry's been around for 20 years and anybody who can do math knows he's in his 40s at this point, still, he doesn't want to look old. So he's saying, I don't want to have some have some adult kid yeah so it's one of those and that that's happened a lot in wrestling where some of the guys are fine with it like uh larry the axe hennig had kurt hennig mr perfect he came up and they were tag team partners this is my son and larry was the old guy now and it was fine then he had guys like johnny valentine remember greg the hammer valentine yes but i can't picture

his face one Blonde guy. His dad was Johnny Valentine, and when Greg started wrestling, his dad had him be his brother. This is my brother. Wow. He's just old enough to wrestle now. Oh, my God. That's how crazy he was. James, are you about to tell me Kane's Undertaker's brother?

No, I'm definitely not. Yes. They're the same age, but yes. It's his son. It's his son son damn it paul bearer's son jesus christ that's great so that's that's kind of a disadvantage is either you have that and you're in his shadow like you could be like david sam martino that poor kid who was bruno bruno sam martino was the the jerry lawler the Northeast, the biggest star by far in the Northeast. And when his kid came along and he's David San Martino,

I kind of look like him a little bit. And everyone went, he's just not as good as his dad. Okay. Just missed him. And then he was, he was shit, you know,

so that there's a certain thing, or you could be this anonymous person who's, who just has to make it all on his own. Right. Which is stereo. Well, he had a, but I mean,

he used that name, which was his, yeah, his mentor's name he used yeah but my point is like if you he could done it that way just like with a mask yeah everybody knows who the fuck he is well that's actually what he did really yeah he ended up genius i'm a fucking genius you're you're booking the territory here you're fucking booking this shit uh yeah he goes under uh uh he's gonna end up going under a mask in the uswa here uh they a lot of times he would tag team with uh the rock at this point really yeah the rock this is when the rock was starting out yeah and uswa memphis was you'll hear all he wrestled every huge wwe superstar of the mid 90s he wrestled in uswa that was their farm system that's awesome yeah that was before

wwe had a developmental league they had uswa and they would like if somebody was hurt it was like a minor league they would send them down to do a couple matches to get back on their feet or they would lend they would lend memphis a couple guys to get their show up and then they would you know you use their guys you know they would use them as a developmental territory so that's where the rock worked for a while before he you know went to the wwe before he went to make a movie before he went to make making money yeah so uh yeah shit piles of it the man has clothes now so loaded jesus christ good for him he's done very well for himself seems to be one of the nicest men ever he seems to be a good dude no one has any shitty stories about him or anything like that it seems like an all right guy yeah just the amount of

steroids he's had to pump into his body over the years that is that's i'm not saying that disparagingly i'm saying that is that's working hard yeah no shit i'm not fucking around people can say what they want about you just track steroids in yourself and then you have to work out like crazy or else you're a fat fuck that's how it works a ton of food to to energize for him to maintain what he looks like fuck for 20 fucking years and 25 years is insane they almost are are out of his skin they like they pop so hard there's like a gap of skin in between the vein and his body it's so much vein it's crazy i mean works out so hard i I mean, genetically, he's got,

he's dealt a good hand. He comes from a wrestling family. I don't know if you've ever seen his dad, Rocky Johnson, but his dad's a fucking specimen. His dad is carved, chiseled.

If you look up Rocky Johnson, he had this nice little fro on him, some sideburns, and a chiseled jack motherfucker that just looked like a big, tough motherfucker. And he's hairless, James. The lucky fuck.

Well, yeah. I don't know. He's just shaving, I feel like. And I can grow a great beard, but I grow it on my fucking shoulders, too. Yeah. It connects. Yeah. It all connects.

Yeah. I don't have like... Jimmy's the wolf man unless you carve out body parts. It's because... Here's an arm. Let me carve that out there. You make a head. I'm going to make a head out of this.

My family is historically just classically not handsome. And I just feel like nobody has fucked the caveman out of us yet. And that's why I'm still so goddamn hairy. And I'm so jealous of him. This is also genetic diversity. His dad's black. His mom's Samoan. You mix some people together.

Oh, they mixed it up. Fuck. Fucking beautiful. The best of all these worlds. And you end up fucking coming out with a handsome, athletically gifted guy. Six foot eight guy. You mix some people together. Oh, they mixed it up. Fuck. Fucking beautiful. The best of all these worlds. And you end up fucking coming out with a handsome, athletically gifted guy. Six foot eight guy. That's what you get. God damn it.

Six foot five, athletically gifted, college football player and a fucking pro wrestler. The world is his... Oysters. Movie star. Jesus Christ. Forget oysters. They're too cheap. That's what I'm saying.

The world is his golden ball. Well, at this point, it wasn't. At this point, they would be tag-teaming. Rock and Brian would be tag-teaming at flea markets and state fairs, sharing the same hotel room sometimes with two other guys. Wow. Two guys on the floor, two guys in beds. They drove 1,500 to 2,000 miles a week. What?

Just doing shows. It's all you had to do. All you're doing is eating shit, fast food you know this is a lifestyle as much as a long-haul trucker it's crazy yeah the rock here says quote we would always dream and talk shit about once we made it to the big leagues of the wwe which yeah i bet you would they were that was the dream here uh but he gets uh by the way the fans at this point that's the thing the wrestling there's two different fans there's the wrestling fans that just watch wrestling and whatever they say on tv they're like okay that's what the show is and they watch it and then there was the fans

who even back in the 90s were on early message boards on the internet you know learning all the dirt and they were subscribing to the dirt sheets and dave melzer shit and like all of that stuff and subscribing to get all the backstage shit so like those people knew that he was jerry lawler's kid you know that was a everybody you know in the know knew it but like yeah if you were a 10 year old kid watching at home on saturday morning you had no idea that i was jerry lawler's kid jerry lawler never told anybody and it wasn't sad he was he was brian christopher okay you know period and that was that uh it was like uh jonah hill and his and his sister uh yeah beanstalk or jelly bean or yeah yeah i can't yeah green peace or whatever her fucking name is green peace twizzler head yeah i don't know her fucking name is fucking something like that i saw her name and i was

like i'm never remembering that that is too much fun and too goofy. Somebody was way too stoned when they came up with that shit. It's strange, though, because Jerry tries to make it out like it was all him trying to let Brian have his own path. But I think there's a little bit of it that's his vanity. If you just look at Jerry, there's just a little bit of that in there yeah when he's like when you got like a guy who's like 70 years old and he's dying his hair jet black there's a fucking touch of vanity to that that you're like come on bro too much ego even just salt and pepper it a little bit you know what i'm saying enjoy it something looks good yeah you don't need to be tom hanks he's so

handsome it's fine it's. Nobody, nobody minds that. But I'm talking, it's not even like a good, like Vince McMahon's not totally gray and everything. I mean, seven in the seventies, but his shit looks like it costs $4,000 to get his hair done because it looks amazing. He's always got a little bit of black on his ears. Yeah. There's always a little touch of it dangling down there. So Jerry said, quote, I wantedrian to be brian i didn't want

him to be a copycat of his dad um so i don't know if that was more for him or for jerry or for who that was but whatever it was uh yeah i i think a lot of it was the age thing too so uh he said though lawler expands on this and he's talking about um a different uh a thing about there's this this was i want to say in the missouri area or actually this was also in tennessee the ghoulus family that was another promoter and had a son that wrestled and uh george george ghoulus was the wrestler and his dad was nick ghoulus and he says quote there was a story that george was in the ring with someone and he said dad says go down to the guy like my dad's the promoter and he said that you're supposed to lose it quote it was one of the reasons nick lost his business and died broke when i looked at that nepotism i didn't want that for brian that's why

he didn't use the lawler name so yeah it was both good and bad for him here uh but obviously everybody else knew all the wrestlers knew and everybody's gonna know they all resented brian you know until he proved himself because brian's a fucking good wrestler that's the thing he's he's pretty good at his job he's not as sad as that that no matter what you do too because there's a there's a very famous guy and then uh royce um uh royce the wrestler yeah you know uh his isaac royce isaac yeah he knows a guy uh whose dad is a very famous actor and they don't fucking tell anybody because he doesn't even want that to be they're like oh he clearly we know people in the same position yeah it's very famous people it's a it's a it's a real tentative thing you don't know what to do

what do you do yeah because you don't want to be looked at in that mold i have to be like them or they're gonna compare me to them but at the same time yeah anything helps yeah it's a tough fucking business i might just take the name you know what i'm saying like i know in comedy or in acting it's They're going to compare me to them. But at the same time, anything helps. Yeah, it does. This is a tough fucking business. I might just take the name. You know what I'm saying? Just run with it. I know in comedy or in acting, it's a tough fucking business. Sure.

You know, I have somebody I know that had a real, back in the day, a real solid in somewhere to get an audition for a very, very hot show at the time and didn't do it because he didn't want to use his, he said, I don't want to do it that way. I don't want to use my connections. Yeah. And he's fucking regretted it for 20 fucking years. Because how stupid are you? I got to put my fucking pride.

Anything helps. God damn it. Fuck pride. Even famous people's kids don't make it sometimes. That's how hard it is. Even when you have every advantage and it's handed to you, you still drop it sometimes. That's how fucking hard making anything of yourself in show business is seriously famous people whose brothers and sisters do comedy and yeah and they are not very successful at it not to that level of being a millionaire they might be successful

in terms of what they if you get booked in comedy like if you that's successful if you're working yeah and that's the thing you could be making 27 grand a year but if you're working you're success that's a successful comedian if you're making 27 grand and you've somehow managed to figure out how to live right on that money and everything like that that's your net or whatever that's you don't have a day job that's success in comedy right there and then it's just degrees of it it goes from there to being you know howard stern or something where you give a you know a billion dollars or jerry seinfeld or somebody of that nature the dream yeah that's that's that's what it is though so uh but no brian was very good he wasn't like oh he's garbage in the ring he's only out there because he's jerry's kid like some of these

horseshit promoters kids but he wasn't like that at all here's uh dr tom pritchard who's not a real doctor that's his wrestling name no he's uh bruce pritchard's brother got it he was a wrestler for years and a trainer also yeah yeah he's got yeah that's weird there's a lot it's family man it's all in these families they keep it tight like the mafia you don't just recruit from the outside no you know they do now but back in the day they didn't you want to keep it close too because you got to keep the the story secret uh you've got all kinds of reasons to keep it in the family and they'd get it it takes a long time to get that's people don't

get it's like comedy you can do comedy they always say people do comedy everybody says it doesn't really click until 10 years or 12 years or people have different times but it's never like in my third year it clicked and I just was a fucking that's not what anybody says like it's it's later on or they might say that at the time

but then later on they're like oh oh, God, I was terrible. Nothing clicked. So it takes a long time to figure out how to work an audience, whether it's in comedy or in, anytime you're on a stage with everyone staring at you, you need to figure out how to work it, you know, where there's no script or there's no, you know, other characters that are going to come on and talk about shit and distract from you or anything like that. The only thing that clicks in your third year in comedy is the 357 because you still can't

afford bullets. Yeah, you're like, well, next year. I'll get booked at a couple weekends, then I'll blow my brains out. That's what I'll do. I'm not successful enough to kill myself yet. That's the problem. Nobody will even mourn me at this point. No, no one will even care. There will not be tweet one about me. They'll be like, where's he at the open mic? I guess he quit. to kill myself yet. That's the problem. Nobody will even mourn me at this point. No, no one will even care.

There will not be a tweet one about me. They'll be like, where's he at the open mic? I guess he quit. I don't know. But Dr. Tom Pritchard here said about Brian, quote, oh, my God, he was a good worker, but no one was helping him. He was a cocky kid, but that was a self-defense mechanism because people talked behind his back. He didn't trust them. Also, he had the thing of that's all of the wrestlers

like second generation wrestlers a lot of them are kind of paranoid and they have this wrestling is a very talky paranoia everybody's trying to fuck me everybody's trying to take my spot like comedy same type of thing and uh if you've most people don't know that till they're in it and then they it happens to them and then over time they harden if your dad did it and your dad's telling you from the beginning everybody's a shyster everyone's trying to stab you in the back so that's the attitude you go in with yeah i think maybe you see things that aren't there or just things are magnified for you it's probably both of those it's yeah it is absolutely both those you see things that aren't happening and the things that are happening are magnified that's exactly right so. So 92, he forms a tag team, a masked tag team with a guy, Tony Williams, and they're called

the Twilight Zone. Brian goes as Nebula. Oh, that's his name, which doesn't sound like a girl's name. It's like a sex toy. Yeah, it's the Nebula. I think that's the chick's name from fucking from the Avengers. Is it? Maybe.

Oh, there you go. Blue chick. I'm pretty sure they stole that name. They stole that shit. No, I don't know. I'm sure it's a comic book or something. So he, July of 92,

this is, I mean, he's only 20 and he's just started. He defeats Dr. Tom to win the Southern heavyweight title in USWA.

So that's his first title and he loses it back pretty quick, but they get his feet wet with it and give him a title just to see how it goes. It's funny, all the different guys he fights. All these old names and fucking Danny Davis and guys like that.

We forgot Eric Embry. I didn't realize was still around. Reno Riggins. These are kind of like WWE jobbers like Reno Riggins and Dutch Mantel. He's still out there now. Bill Dundee, who was the memphis rival of uh of jerry lawler here uh jeff jarrett who is uh you know jeff jarrett who's another second generation jeff jerry jarrett is jerry lawler's partner in memphis okay they're together so these are the two yeah these are the

two sons of the two owners wrestling each other yeah it's jerry and uh brian jerry got more success or jeff jarrett got more success. He's a little better. He's just a little better. Sort of. I don't know. It's hard to explain with Jeff. Jeff was kind of a douche, too.

Really? But, yeah, he's a good wrestler, too, though. Jeff kind of, he was one of the guys that was instrumental in starting TNA and all that sort of shit. So, he'll start up some different things if you don't want him here. Well, he couldn't go back to wwe

because he held vince mcmahon up for i think a hundred thousand dollars what yeah he's one of the guys that did that there's a few guys that have done that and he he held him up they wanted him to apparently his contract ended like two days after or two days before a pay-per-view yeah and so he had the title and he was supposed to lose the intercontinental title at the pay-per-view yeah and so he had the title and he was supposed to lose the intercontinental title at the pay-per-view and he said well i don't have a contract so i ain't fucking losing shit my contract's up so i don't know what to tell you guys yeah he said unless you want to pay me an extra you can pay me 150 grand right now and i'll that'll be my fee for that shit yeah and uh they ended up having to do it because otherwise he could have taken he could have just went somewhere else and then they made him lose and then they fired they made him lose to i believe they made him lose to china i think

to a woman yeah yeah they had to embarrass him by losing i might be wrong about that that was a mcmahon's daughter when she's nine when she's nine yeah losing to it mcmahon's maid who comes out all right that's me i don't know beats him with a Eureka. Yeah, with fucking yellow plastic gloves on. Unbelievable. Beats him with a Swiffer in the submission. So, yeah, he's fighting those guys, all sorts of guys. Scotty Flamingo turns into Raven. He's tag team partners with him against the Moondogs.

So I don't know how the fuck they were still alive, even, either of those guys. I'm sure it was a different incarnation of it. But, yeah, anyway, he fucking Superfly Snooka. He wrestled him? He wrestled Superfly Snooka, man, in 93. Superfly was still wrestling like independents in 93. Post-murder, right? Oh, well, eight years post.

Do we say it? Why? He wasn't convicted, right? Civil judgment. Oh. There was a civil judgment. Really? Oh, in 86, I believe, was the civil judgment. Why don't convicted, right? Civil judgment. Oh. It was a civil judgment. Really? Oh, in 86, I believe, was the civil judgment.

Why don't I remember that? It was in the episode there. Civil judgment. Good Lord. And he just never paid it. Nope. Just ignored it. I don't speak the language.

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. That's how he got out of it a lot. Pretended he didn't speak the language. That was incredible. fucking incredible here uh so yeah he's uh teaming with jeff jarrett a little bit jesus christ fighting coco beware who i didn't forgot was still around at that moment in time in uswa all sorts of shit uh somehow billy jack haynes makes an appearance in here ends up fighting

billy jack haynes do we ever talk about billy jack haynes he's a guy who needs an episode Billy Jack Haynes makes an appearance in here, ends up fighting Billy Jack Haynes. Do we ever talk about Billy Jack Haynes? He's a guy who needs an episode. Really? The most entertaining interview I've ever seen in my life. Then maybe we have. Is Billy Jack Haynes. Well, he did two of them. The first one is just sort of crazy.

He tells you about his crazy life, and he's obviously a nut. And over the course of it, he gets crazier and crazier. He shows up with a suit and tie on. By the middle of it, he's got just a tank top on, and he's offering people Vicodin on the film crew. He's like, guys want a Vicodin? And they're like, nah, we're good. You have told me that. And so that's cool.

But then the second interview, he's off his meds, and he's fucking nuts. He's nuts. And the whole thing, he's got a fucking suitcase full of files. And his whole thing is how Vince McMahon actually killed Chris Benoit and his wife and his kid. And here's how I know. And he's got pictures and all. It's fucking crazy. What if I could inform me on this rabbit hole?

If you're interested, Billy Jack Haynes conspiracy theory. Just look that up. He starts in a business suit and strips down gradually. That's the first one. Yeah. By the middle of it, they take a break and they come back and he's just in a black tank top offering people Vicodin. And I'm like, what is going on? It fell apart. He's like Mike Ness in Social D playing a concert.

Yeah. He comes out in like a pinstripe suit. Falls apart. At the end of the night, he's wearing pinstripe pants, a tank top, and his suspenders are dangling from his. I'm trying to inject people with heroin? Is that what he's doing? Come here, you. Just sweating everywhere.

Fucking crazy. But yeah, he's one of the nuts ones there. Also wrestles Sid Vicious here, which is... You know Sid? Sid, he was Sid Justice, Sid Vicious. He's a big... I know a Sid Vicious, but not that one. Not that Sid Vicious, the wrestler. This guy's like a giant six-foot-eight monster.

Really? He looks like, if you said, let me just draw a wrestler, that's who you draw. It's amazing. But he's a pain in the ass. But he's a giant guy, so him wrestling Brian Christopher is kind of hilarious. He's almost a foot taller and probably has 70 pounds on him. It's the original. Wait, no, it's not, because this is a 90 something this is 95 okay so this is after this is after andre and and

hulk oh well yeah well well after here yeah yeah he like wow billy jack haynes won the uswa title from brian christopher holy shit that's insane that they were like letting billy jack haynes have a belt beating him he's just gonna lose it like he's nuts he's gonna like i left it in a fucking waffle house on the counter like okay so 1996 he actually has a match against his dad he actually has a match against jerry jerry wrestles jerry which is pretty fucking wild yeah that's that had to be a interesting thing for him to be able to do that. And then also in 1996, he gets married. What? Well, he's on the Ascension. This isn't like things are going terrible.

This isn't like breaking a crime and sports rule. He's like, hey, things are going well. Might as well get married, I guess. Might as well make it a little more complicated. I don't know. I can't imagine being in a life like this and wanting to have a family it's hard man it's hard they're it's a it's a famous thing about there's very few people in the wrestling business that have been together for 30 years and i didn't get a divorce like a thing they talk

about it like bruce pritchard always on this show the something to wrestle show which by the way they did a promo for us a while back thank you they're great people we were supposed to do a cross promo with them but somehow they're very busy and they never gave us the copy. So something to wrestle with. Bruce Prichard and Conrad, man, they are great. Conrad Thompson, great guys. Great show.

If you're into wrestling and kind of wrestling inside stories and they're funny shit, check them out because it's really, really funny stuff. And if you love our wrestling stories, they have deep cuts. They have have tons of them and bruce no one's been around longer than bruce bruce has been in the business since he was a kid in houston and whether you like bruce or not if you think he's a wwe shill or not because obviously now he's the producer of smackdown oh so he's got some yeah it's amazing though the podcast this is how amazing podcasting is. Five years ago, he was managing an office. Wow. Okay?

Literally managing an office. Conrad here is, Conrad is now Ric Flair's son-in-law. Okay. Married one of Ric Flair's daughters. So he did a podcast with Ric Flair, Conrad did, and Ric Flair's a little flighty and just didn't do the podcast. He said by episode 10, he was like calling from a bar, like literally calling in to do the podcast, like while he's having drinks and talking.

Do you hear like a real damn serious? You hear like a football game playing in the background and glasses. I know, buddy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, yeah, we were back. It was the Eagle. Yeah.

Yeah. It was Charlotte. I think it was. Hey, can I get a double one more? Hey, how you doing, sweetheart? All right. It was. Who were we? Yeah, I you doing sweetheart all right it was uh who was where

were we yeah i was uh wrestling uh yeah it was you know it was arn anderson that night so then conrad ended up uh doing a podcast with bruce pritchard and he has other ones too and he's kind of built a little like the wrestling pot he has a wrestling podcast a little empire here and bruce is kind of the kind of forming uh foundational brick of that now he has one with jim ross too and all these different people but uh yeah they're good people so anyway there you go you know there's a plug for them you know royce and colt wrestle in the same thing he's part nwa also i didn't know they were both in the same thing circuit yeah it's fascinating kind of a main circuit yeah it's good it's wild they love each other

they're good friends and and, it's like comics. They all kind of run into each other once in a while. A ton of those guys in NWA listen to this shit, though. That's cool. Fucking fascinating. What's up, guys? How you doing? Thank you for listening.

Fuck yeah. Keep hurting yourselves. Risking life and limb for the big payday. I hope you get it. I hope all of you get it. Fuck, I hope every one of you get it. Keep banging your head against the wall just like comedians and uh hopefully you'll get there before you have brain damage and we'll get there before we die in hotel rooms

because it's funny wrestlers and comedians all they die the same way it's all in hotel rooms it's the way it works what have i said the only way i don't want to die jimmy hotel in a fucking hotel room please don't let me die in a hotel room in fucking columbus because my whole life will have been worth nothing if that's what happens i don't want that they're mostly hotel rooms in the midwest that's what it's gonna be yeah that's why i picked columbus it's gonna be columbus maybe some dayton or some horse shit yeah bad ohio so depressing 19 that's awesome 1997 uh he's called up to the wwf at the time wwe now obviously uh uh yeah he's called up to this and uh this is obviously this is the big time and his dad is an announcer there his dad is the monday night raw color man so i mean it's kind of a

fucking cool deal for him here and they said too i remember this at the time they would uh they lawler would really talk this guy talk brian christopher up like oh he's a good looking guy isn't he what a good looking guy real athletic good looking guy it's bizarre how much he looks like me he's so handsome and then jay jim ross would say yeah they seem to you guys there's a weird connection and then jerry would always say that he'd say quote there's only one set of the king's dna buddy that's not you know he would act like wow don't act like it's my kid or anything i just think i just you know i see quite the young star in this guy type of thing i see what he's doing there but if his boy hears that that could sting uh it's it's subliminally it's just a tip of the uh that was 97 wwf was experimenting

with kind of uh doing some they call it kind of shoot angles as well which are kind of a nod to the people who know what's really going on the people who read the internet and all that type of shit and that was one of those things you can't just they they had to to the rest of the country and normal people you had to pretend like they weren't father and son but to the people that knew it you couldn't act like you were pretending like it wasn't didn't exist yeah because they're like hey don't bullshit me so you had to give them a little wink and a nod hey you guys are a connection huh that way they'd be at home going that's his son you know blah blah blah they think they were smarter than everybody else this is like a way to just sort of you know oh jesus fucking to lubricate their circle jerk

of the of the fans who thought they knew shit but it's not doing anything for the stereotype that uh wrestling fans are fucking dorks you know what i mean no no yeah well those guys the fucking there's just a group of guys back then who were like you know in the infancy of the internet who were just really you know into it the infancy of the Internet, who were just really, you know, into it. And there was a real divide of who knew shit and who didn't know shit. Now everybody knows everything. It's, you know, they it'll be on, you know, if you whatever news site under the sports thing, if there's like a WWE storyline that's going to change and something, somebody's leaving. It'll be a news story on there.

So, you know, you know, this guy's going to lose the title because he he's fucking gonna leave next month to go try to be an actor or something you know what i mean so it's it's different now everyone knows shit it's hard to explain it's just fascinating that'd be like tiki barber being like that ronde barber is a fucking badass isn't he and they're like what are you talking about man he looks just like you there's only one set of dna listen you're right tiki there's one barber that's me yeah exactly god damn it that's actually the most truthful thing you've ever said there is only one set of dna you guys split it right down the middle enjoy so they uh apparently uh jerry said he was pissed off that paul hayman uh who was ecw's you know paul hayman is he was pissed off that Paul Heyman, who was ECW's owner and runner,

when they were kind of doing an interpromotional kind of angle here, he announced that Brian was Jerry Lawler's son on TV. Suck it. Because he completely catered to the people who knew everything. That was his to the smart mark, as they call it. That was his whole audience. So he had to act like, look how cool and edgy I am. I'm going to blow up their whole thing.

And you know, Jerry Lawler said he was a little pissed off at that. I was a little pissed off. You don't break kayfabe, which was like by 97, you do. It's just the way it was. They hung out with the,

he, Brian hangs out with the rock a lot, even in WWE now, because they came, both came up this time. Rock came up, I think, late 96. So, I mean, and he wasn't The Rock for a while. Yeah, it took a while.

Dude, he was wearing like a puka shell necklace. He came out doing like an island gimmick. Came out like, you know, doing the Jimmy Snuka love ya bra thing. Not really, but that was basic. Big smile on his face. Hey, guys. What was the Brahma Bull was the thing that he was doing, right? No, no, no.

The bull horns? Later, but at the time. At that time, he was using them as like a- Not really. At the time, but he was like, they made him come out like he's an island dude. He's a happy kind of Rocky Maivia, the happy kind of guy. And he'd come out, big smile on his face. He had a tribal tattoo.

Yeah, before that even. No, he had that tribal bow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is before that, I think. Really? I don't even think he had that yet. Really? Back in 96, maybe.

He was just clean? No, nothing at all. I can't remember. He might have had it then. I don't remember when he first came out, but the fans fucking hated him because he was this corny dude. They tried to push for him

and they didn't like him until he told the fans to fuck off and then they were like, hey, he's pretty cool now. Then he figured out that I have to be a dick that's my character okay i get it be cheesy yeah just be cheesy the other way be an extra big dick so uh yeah uh kevin his brother is a referee like we said in uswa and uh and things like that he also does a little bit of managing and things but he never becomes a wrestler and his brother kevin says quote i feel like we were in high school and everyone else

graduated but i got held back which i could totally see that shit i mean that makes a lot of sense but uh 1997 it's they're kind of trying to do the cruiserweight division back then which is you know lighter guys that was a big thing because wcw had all the the ray mysterio and all the luchadors and shit so they were trying to do a lightweight division to the cruiserweight type of thing that was so much fun i can't remember what they call i think they call it the lightweight division in wwa i don't remember it was cruiserweight in in uh wcw but anyway uh they were uh they were trying to do this they were trying to find smaller guys so a lot of the guys down south in Memphis, that's kind of built around smaller guys that can work well. And that's what they did.

So they bring him in. He beat some guys that he had beaten before down there. They kind of work with him. He beats Scott Putzky, which I can't believe he was still around. It's Ivan Putzky's kid, whose Polish power from back in the 70s and 80s and WWF. And his kid came out in like the 80s and was shitty and then went away and apparently came up, came back again for a minute here and wanted to give him a chance, I guess. But yeah, he starts, they push him pretty well here too. He gets some wins.

You know, he's winning on, you know, on television all the time and shit like that. He's losing to people too, but he's a dick. He's a heel. so it doesn't matter. He can lose and nobody really gives a shit. But they give him a lot of work anyway. He even does, he's in a tag team battle royal at WrestleMania 14 in 1998. This big giant tag team battle royal,

everybody from the Road Warriors to fucking, you name it everybody on earth is in here that they have even like the uh the the nation of domination you got in there farouk and those guys and uh it's all of the different even rock and roll express is in there the old school ricky morton and robert gibson from the 80s are in there which uh they were still working down south back then which by the, those guys still have the same haircuts they had in 1986. And it's scary. That's not good.

Picture a 58-year-old man with an 80s mullet that's teased in the front. It's not pretty, dude. It's not pretty. No. It's bad stuff. The reason Eddie shaved that shit. Yeah. Eddie Van Halen had that for so long.

That ain't good, man. And then it starts to droop a little. It's so sad looking. You're like that for so long that ain't good man and then it starts to droop a little these are it's so sad looking like bro cut that shit off man what the fuck are you doing well it's hard to a haircut says so much about somebody you know what i mean well you have to just make a decision whether you're going to change or not yeah but if you're not in the public eye for so long yeah and then you come back or people will see you and you've got different hair they don't even know the fuck you are that's the thing i agree with that that's what's so weird i think it's hard because you if lauren if lt didn't have so many mug shots of his hair shrinking and

not being a flat top anymore and then that carve going away i don't think anybody would recognize if you have a hardcore blonde mullet yeah like i guess people can see that from the back of the arena and you know who you are but like people make a decision whether i'm either gonna change this every few years this kind of goes out of style right or i am going to onto it do this until i drop dead i'm gonna have the same exact fucking haircut yeah until i die no matter how really time stamped to an error that that haircut is like that mullet from 1985 i don't know ever since tombstone sam elliott hasn't changed fuck about his head no that's true that's true but once you're like in your late 40s i feel like that's

fine you get ahead and you go with it but when you're younger and you're out doing you know rick rude cut his mullet off. He did. He did. You know, he was like, all right, I'm done with this shit. This has got to go. You know, eventually, I think Shawn Michaels eventually cut his mullet off. Yeah. Or at least made all of his hair long so it wasn't a mullet. Relaxed it a bit.

Yeah, so it wasn't just this fucking shaved on the sides. Right. God, he really hung on for a long time, that Shawn Michaels. There's so many that did. It's fucking embarrassing. So many. It's fucking insane so he uh he ends up teaming up in 99 by the way he tears an acl and he's out for a few months

getting a surgery because the way he works you know he's he does a lot of pretty athletic shit so you can't really you can't be half-assed in there you can't have uh you can't have one of your wheels be bad and you know doing you know moonsaults and shit like that just doesn't work not that he was a real aerial guy but he would do a bunch of aerial shit 97 98 you had the guys were doing crazy shit in the ring and that was including they'd throw themselves all over the place and then beat the shit out of each other with chairs and things like that it was a not even thinking about brain damage whatsoever back then. Plus, at that point, they were the, I don't know, rumor, I guess, or the real stigma of it being so fake.

Yeah. They had to shake that really hard by doing just unbelievable acrobatic shit, and they did it. Yeah. People would go, look, I know it's fake, but when that guy hits the other guy with a chair, he might know he's going to hit him with the chair, but he's fucking hitting him with the chair. He's still goddamn hitting him.

That's what it was. It was like, I know they know he's going to hit him with the chair, but he's fucking hitting him with the chair. That's what it was. It was like, I know they know who's going to win, but they still have to beat the shit out of each other in the process. That's kind of how it worked. Yeah, but then they, it's one of those things where the whole point of wrestling, from, you know, back in the day and from whatever, all the old timers and even guys now who are smart, they seem to say the whole point of it

is to have something really look like it hurts, but not hurt. Yeah. That's good. That's when you're good. Right. Anybody can just hit another guy with a chair. Yeah. Anybody can do that.

Just hit me hard. Okay, clang. I can hit you with a fucking chair and you fall down and people go, oh, shit. That doesn't mean we're talented. That just means you're insane and I'm an asshole. That's what that would mean you know what i mean the motions of the stomp and the timing of all of it it's all it's having something not hurt and having people go holy shit did he really hurt him right like how is he

standing that's that's the art of the whole thing that it's fake and that's why he's still standing but how the fuck is he still standing it's like when you tell a joke and you go last week this happened and people don't go he's full of shit that that's the point you have to sell it like it really happened last week and like that really happened to you you can't just be like this is a joke i made up it didn't really happen to me but i'm gonna put myself in the first person so it makes more sense okay so i was at the store the other day you can't say that you have to pretend like it's fucking real that's not funny anymore yeah you have to pretend like it's real it's the same thing here so or unless you sell the joke and at the end be like that never happened that didn't happen that's fine but you can only do that once right once in a set yeah that's it

you can't keep doing that once per hour you can do that never again you can't keep coming back that one's not real either they'd be like well why the fuck are you telling us? Why are you on stage? Yeah. What's going on? Who are you? Liar. So Brian here, when he comes back from the it seems like when he comes back from the ACL, he that's when they team him up with Scotty to hottie. Oh, yeah. And he changes his name. Brian does to Grandmaster Sex.

A. You can't do that. S. E. X. A. Y. He's doing it as a joke. Yeah.

That's the thing. He's like, he has this vest on. He comes to the ring with all sorts of goofy shit, like goggles with like a fucking headband under them. He looks like a fucking lunatic when he comes to the ring. He looks ridiculous. He dresses like Seth Green in Can't Hardly Wait. He's locked in the bathroom i mean

like with like a yellow thing and some goggles what the fuck are you wearing board goggles for no reason yeah that's what he had on may with like a do-rag on under it under them like with them on top of a do-rag what is happening fuck is going on he dressed like a lunatic but it was it was a he was a heel and it was very tongue in cheek like everyone in the crowd knew it was a joke like scotty too hot he would do the worm like as a big thing it was a it was a total joke it wasn't like back to rick rude it wasn't like rick rude who was ravishing rick rude and you're like that's a handsome motherfucker he's got a 12 pack and he's handsome as shit he's he's saying I'm ravishing. Look at me, bitches. Hate me because I'm so fucking good looking.

I dare you to tell me I'm not. Yeah, and you can't. You go, fuck. Even though he was a bad guy, women were screaming for him and people liked him. Even we were watching the one time, Sarah goes,

he's pretty handsome for a wrestler. With Rick Root even. He was just like, he doesn't look like his head's like a potato or something like the rest of the guys. Their faces, most of them are fucked up. Yeah, because we're always making fun of how the guys look, some of them, especially the extra puffy, roidy guys from the 80s. The extra unattractive.

He was like, oh, he looks semi-normal in the face. It was one of those things. He doesn't look like a freak. So, yeah, it wasn't like that. This was a joke. This was like, look how sexy I am. He put the word grandmaster in it. That alone makes everything afterwards a joke.

The whole thing is ridiculous and silly here. Sex A. Sex A with an A. So, obviously, it's a joke. He was trying to be as grating as possible. And also, then they brought R rakishi into their little group remember rakishi i'm sure you do no god no he's a giant samoan man whose ass is the size of your body oh my god he would uh sit on people in the corner and do the stink face he put his he'd put his ass

in and just sit on you with your ass his big giant stinky ass in your face. And he's got a big, fat thong on, one of those things. No, it was tights, but still. Sometimes you'd have the thong. Yeah, the thing. You know what I mean? They would do that where you could see skin on skin, ass cheek on. Oh, that's no good. The hole would be covered, but the rest of it...

It's like a big sumo underwear garment. And the dude had been wrestling for 15 minutes. Yeah, and I can't express to you the size of Rikishi's ass. It's it's really it's like, whoa, that is disturbing. Those asses are not even like genetically. I don't know how it's possible. And they're not like an ass. It's just a lot of it.

It's just that it's like two people in the fetal position. Yeah. Hit under his pants. That's what it looks like it's not around it's just a lot of ass so much ass jesus christ so uh yeah they uh uh brian at one point said about this tag team quote we were supposed to be doing a spoof on hip-hop and making fun of it but the fans started enjoying it they loved the fact that it was two white boys out there dancing because they looked ridiculous it was funny that's what they it was a goofy act uh then

when they throw rikishi into the mix that only heightened everything because now we've got a 400 pound samoan wearing a thong with his huge ass showing but he can dance as well because rikishi can dance because fat guys have all the best moves he's a he's a real athletic fat guy he wasn't a fat guy like normal he's a fat guy like normal. He's a fat guy that was an athlete. He's a Samoan wrestler. Those guys are, they look huge and unshapely

and they can run circles around everybody. It's incredible. The long line of these guys, The Rock is in. That's where his family is, these guys. They can dance so well. And they dance their asses off. Everybody, yeah,

big fat guys are good at it i credit it to them like balancing themselves all day in the first place yeah and they know like yeah fat guys dance well their feet have the control of where their where their weight goes and they they're fucking good at it i knew a guy who was 550 pounds literally he was six foot five 550 fucking dance his ass off really i? I mean, I saw him one time, though. Break a shoe long ways. I believe it. The sole of the shoe, the whole bottom, not like, you know, side to side, fucking right

down the middle. How do you break a toe to heel? Split in half. Split it. A dress shoe. I've never seen this before. Ever. Have you ever seen that?

No, never. That's how well they know their body. 550. Yeah. You can do it. They can dance. He's like, I broke my fucking shoe. Can you believe that?

He's this fat. I can believe that. This big fat Italian guy with a Chicago accent. He was great. I broke my fucking shoe. Look at this fucking thing. Jesus Christ. He goes, I'm a fat fuck.

What do you want? He's like, oh, what a piece of shit. He goes, it's not the fucking shoe's fault. I'm a fat fuck. Look at me. Like, all right. Of course it broke broke i put it on my foot yeah one time he ripped his shirt and he goes i gotta take it to the tent maker now jesus fucking christ he was all mad like he would give himself these self-deprecating jokes send it back into coleman he was an ac guy he was an hvac guy so he goes ah you want to see these people when i start climbing up on their fucking roof oh my god he starts crying he's like it's fucking hilarious he goes

ah they come out oh are you sure no you don't need to be on my right ma'am it's fucking great i think the heat pumps downstairs i don't think you need to be up there now i do start climbing up the ladder they get scared so uh this house is old we haven't had that roof inspected no please don't go up there oh god so in 2000 uh scotty too hotty and grandmaster sex a brian himself get win the tag team titles all right they are champions grace oh yeah that is Grace right here. He's in the WWF at the time and doing very well. He's got a belt that he's holding. It's wonderful here.

Now, the problem is he's also got an underlying. He's got some underlying issues. Like a lot of guys do. This is all great and wonderful. And we've talked about his career. But he also likes to party. He also gets into drugs a little bit. He needs some stuff to deal with.

Also, you know, physically enhancing drugs and steroids and things like that. Jerry Lawler's lawyer at one point here later on would say, quote, Brian had been diagnosed with a major depression disorder. The Brian you saw on television worked hard to be that Brian

because he was managing depression. That's kind of his his deal it's he self-medicates and he's got a depression issue he's got some problems here uh kevin his brother said that he thinks that his brother was always bipolar even from back in the day he said quote his personality would go from zero to 100 and back again always he's very much like that he's manic and he's fucking down but it's not like he's manic for three days and he's down sometimes it is but sometimes as he's manic for an hour he's fucking down for an hour then he's manic again like hard swings yeah which is difficult it's brutal to

manage yeah um also lawler says and this is ridiculous this is a lawler said that this is what brian told him of how he got into drugs which is obviously a lie he said this is lawler quote he this is jerry lawler he said he started when he walked into a dressing room and a tag team was doing coke and they made him do it with them so he wouldn't tell he said so you know after that he was just into drugs which he's on the road and he's hanging out and guys are doing coke and he's a young guy and it's fun and he did it and that's that's what it is but he tells his dad that like oh you know the business it pressured me into it and what are you gonna do here so but i mean he's a champ in wwf everything's going well for him uh until 2001 when he has a slight issue at the calgary international airport

uh-oh little hiccup there whenever we talk about a wrestler at an airport, it's never a good thing here. Now, this is what Jerry said. Jerry told the press that Brian told him that this is what happened. This is Brian through his dad. He told his dad that he got busted at the airport for having, quote, muscle-enhancing drugs that are legal in the U.S. but not in Canada. muscle enhancing drugs that are legal in the u.s but not in canada he says uh jerry lawler said that the drugs were similar to quote uh to the mark mcguire stuff because this is 2001 so they're talking about mark mcguire the case you're young the baseball player who had fucking 100 home runs and 74 home runs or whatever in uh 1998 certainly didn't do it naturally was jacked up on a bunch

of shit. The Mark McGuire stuff that supposedly, they're saying, that was still when he was saying he was doing it on Andro and not fucking steroids. So he's not saying, but he's also saying this is not creatine. Yeah, he's saying this is,

you know, Andro or whatever it was, whatever supplement's illegal there, but it's legal here. And he said that, Brian told his dad here that he told him that he just forgot they were still in the bag he thought he ditched him at the hotel he didn't know he had more he just forgot it was a brain fart and uh you know there that's all it was and he's arrested

on a monday afternoon arriving in calgary uh where the royal canadian mounted police they ended up finding this is the problem that wasn't what they found the muscle enhancing drugs that are legal here well these might be legal somewhere yeah but they're not legal in either of these countries uh they found a tenth of a gram of methamphetamine and methamphetamine which i don't know if it's legal anywhere on this continent i also don't know that that enhances any muscle no uh half a gram of cocaine no as well again Again, not legal either place. And a tenth of a gram of marijuana. Which a tenth of a gram of marijuana is literally, he had

some shake from a spent bag of weed. He had resin on his fingertip. That's so little. Like a gram is, Christ man. It's so little. It's not a lot, a gram. It's like a joint's worth, basically. A decent sized joint is a gram. It's a good bowl. You get a lot, a gram. It's like a joint's worth, basically. Like a decent-sized joint is a gram.

It's a good bowl. You get a couple little. It depends on the size of your bowl. Yeah. I'm just talking a standard, nice, decent-sized fat joint you'll get out of a gram. You know those bowls that you used to take apart? Take a tenth of that. The metal bowls that you used to take apart?

Yeah, yeah. It might be that. Yeah, a little more. It's definitely that. It's a little more than that. It's definitely that. The gram's a little bit more than that. Yeah.

But it's definitely that full. that it's definitely that the ground's a little bit more than that yeah because it's definitely that full yeah yeah i guess that is i guess it's probably like 10 of those i'm gonna say it's like a joint so you get take a fat joint and make it a take a tenth of that that's what he had on him so that's really not anything there uh but yeah he also didn't want tenth of a gram of methamphetamine but that's meth so that's a little bit different people buy quarter grams of meth as a fucking hit so it's a different amount nobody buys a quarter gram a week he's got enough here for this to be a problem it's it's a fucking problem here uh uh yeah now wwe right is right away said he's not going to be back to the company right away after that they said he's going to be suspended and then he's eventually fired the next day altogether for this incident.

They get rid of him quick, quick. For three tenths of a gram combined of drugs. Yeah, exactly. He's charged with possession of cocaine and methamphetamine. I guess they didn't charge him for the weed in the end, which that's good. He's going to end up pleading guilty in provincial court to the charge of cocaine possession. They dropped the meth possession. guilty in provincial court to the charge of cocaine possession they dropped the meth possession now uh they are the attorneys argued for a conditional discharge which would allow him

to travel into canada for work and not be banned from the fucking country the judge agreed and ordered him to pay 50 to a victim's fund what who's the victim here i don't think there's any victim of this guy having a drop of whatever but that's fine and a 500 donation to a teen's drug and alcohol program that's fine uh so yeah he does that that's his penalty that's his penalty 550 in fines pretty much yeah for bringing canada that's like two beaver pelts that's just a couple of beaver pelts and i believe some hockey stick tape yeah not the stick but the tape you put around at the end of yeah and then a jizz donation for the pain well obviously jesus christ and a and a and a baker's dozen tim horton donuts that's what that is there you go everybody i brought it enjoy i have lived up to my end of health and donuts and the the pelt of sarah one of palin's children

i don't know which one. She has 45 of them. It doesn't matter. That's how you know you've done it in Canada. I went westward and I got her. So after firing him, the WWF spokesman at the time said, quote, I think our actions speak loud and clear about how the WWF feels about drugs.

And Jerry said, quote, he caught a big break on that with the jail time, you know, the fucking not being put in jail or not being banned from Canada. Jerry said, quote, he could have done jail time or been deported and never been able to come back to Canada, which is correct. Now, Jerry also says the judge told his told Brian this quote. the judge told his told brian this quote well i'm probably not the right thing as far as uh the public is concerned because they like to see us make examples out of people like you but i'm going to cut you a break and he said the judge dismissed all the charges so it's like it didn't even happen which isn't true he pleaded guilty but jerry's trying to make it look better than it is here he can come back to canada anytime he wants. And yeah.

So he says, Jerry says, that's just how it is. That's how the WWE operates. He says, quote, The truth of the matter is that ever since I've been there, that's like the one rule. If somebody had been caught with drugs in the United States, it wouldn't be nearly as big a deal. But getting caught at the border in Canada causes a major problem with the WWF. Anytime anything connected with the WWF goes goes through the border they were they will literally stop their big 18 wheeler rigs with all their equipment in it and make them unload the whole thing where they check everything in there wow that's crazy it

causes the wwf a tremendous amount of headaches that's always been the one out uh long-standing rule if you ever get caught or cause any problems at the canadian border you're going to get fired so he's saying that's just the way it is there uh he thought it was going to be fine though uh you know he thought he was good uh and people around him he still had a good enough veneer on him to where he was like i'll be fine it's no big deal i can bounce back and you know he still had money in the bank and he's still pretty famous and everything $550 fine that's what i mean it's still had money in the bank and he's still pretty famous. And everything. $550 fine. That's what I mean. It's just a bump in the road and everything's kind of fine. And his brother, Kevin, even said, like, he wasn't even that concerned about him at that point.

Like, he said, quote, I wasn't even sure if he had a problem. I thought this is the stuff he got into and maybe he'll learn not to mess up again. That's his quote. He was like, yeah, I figure he's just fucking around. And such a small amount. Yeah. He could have. He even could have said, dude, i forgot that shit was even in my bag

like i thought i was done with that shit i thought i did a little i must have just thrown it back in the bag i thought i did all of it yeah i didn't realize i left a little left long night didn't realize i thought if i you know don't know so here he kind of bounces around after this he goes to uh he does some like indie promotion shit. And the thing about the indie promotions, if you recently had worked for WWE and then you go on the indies, you're a big draw

because you were just on TV and a big famous guy and now you're at the rec center in front of 300 people. Yeah, that's tough stuff. Yeah, now they can come. They've got questions. They can come get your autograph

after the show. They can come meet you and you were a big star on TV last week so you're gonna get you do pretty well of course the wwe is going to take your name right so that's a problem it's tough i'd like to know if they okay because they bring you in this is a question maybe for the wrestlers out there they bring you in currently um whatever your fucking name is before that that ain't your name now right because they need to give you a name that they can own so they can market it and own the trademarks and everything that way.

Also they have leverage on you. Whereas if you leave, you leave without your name that you've gotten famous with. That's the thing. But do they own the name that you had when you came there? Do they buy that from you? I wonder, cause I know they don't,

they can't just claim it as their trademark now because that's how like guys like macho man and Hulk Hogan got grandfathered into that, because that was their name before they got there. Well, David Bautista, is that his name, Dave Bautista? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. His name, right? Or is it Matt?

No, it's Dave. It's Dave. It's Dave. So he's an Avenger. That's his name, though. Right, right. That's his real name. You can't trademark, like, Bret Hart?

Yeah. He's always Bret Hart. Yeah. He can go anywhere and be Bret Hart, because his fucking name is Bret Hart. So Bautista goes and does movies now when he goes under Dave Bautista. Yeah, because that's his name. I think that's his real name. Right, right.

And he was Bautista in there, so they can't take that away from him. So what name are you talking about? What can they take from him? He can't be Grandmaster Sexay anymore. He can't be that. He can be Brian Lawler. Yeah, yeah. Even Brian Christopher they might own after that.

I'm not sure. But he had it before that, but it's still USWA. I don't know if their trademark, I don't know how WWE was. Cause I know they got really tough on the intellectual property shit in the nineties, but I'm not sure if in 93, they were still had that business sense to do that,

to blanket everything on it. I'm not sure. They look like dicks, but I understand it. Yeah. Well, they are, they,

they make these guys at the leverage on it's a little ridiculous. I don't know. I fucking, I get that you put the leverage on it's a little ridiculous. I don't know. I get that you put the guy on television and made him this and that, but I don't know. It's the guy's fucking name now. The guy's got to do that, too. I mean, he earned it. Yeah, it's tough. I don't know.

What are you going to do with it? Right. You know what I mean? You're going to use The Rock for somebody else. That's what I'm saying. You're going to be Grandmaster. Someone else is going to be Grandmaster Sexay. No, no.

Let him use it, but whatever. I'm curious of that though like it's strange so anyway uh uh he ends up bouncing around a little bit does the indies uh in 2002 he hooks up with tna wrestling and this is well obviously now they're kind of in the shits but this is when they were i don't even know if they had they were on tv yet or if they were still doing weekly pay-per-views back in this time. So this was like infancy of TNA when they still had the octagon ring and all that shit. Totally different thing here. But he was in a tag team, kind of a group with Eric Watts, who is Bill Watts, the promoter for MidSouth's son, who was kind of cast aside because he was Bill Watts' and david flair who was rick flair's son

so he's like the it's like the legends kids group is but what it is basically this is the kids table at wwe thanks exactly what it is yeah all of us going we're not as famous as our dads are we so uh uh he uh this is from he works there from june 2002 to april, and he's Brian Lawler here. So that's one name WWE cannot own. So that makes me think they might own Brian Christopher. They've got to. I'm not sure. But Brian Lawler, obviously, he's allowed to use because it's him.

And so this was the first time that he's gone under Lawler in public, though. This is the first time since he's been in wrestling that he's Lawler, and he's saying, I'm Jerry Lawler's kid publicly. So this is kind of a deal. Everybody knew it, but now he's lawler and he's saying i'm jerry lawler's kid publicly so this is kind of a kind of a deal everybody knew it but now it's like oh they're finally saying it now interesting okay uh so uh yeah ellen degeneres coming out as gay really we needed that yeah it was neil patrick harris right are we really are we yeah we get it he was on broadway the best one was clay aiken yeah clay dude you're wasted you're wasted words you don't even have to say it We get it. He was on Broadway. The best one was Clay Aiken. Yeah, yeah. Clay.

Dude. You're wasting words and breath, bro. You didn't even have to say it. Get back to writing songs. You're cool. You know. If I met a nice gay guy, I'd try to set you up with him. Right. That's how much I...

I wouldn't even have said, you're gay, right? I would have just been like, I met this guy you're going to love. I think you guys are going to get along terrifically. He likes the same things you like. And if we were friends and i knew a dude that they was good for him i would have set him up for sure hardcore it was very hot without even a thought yeah now there's nothing wrong with it it's fine be as gay as you want to be it's hilarious that he thought we didn't know yeah it's like oh we we got you dude don't we're good yeah we're

all square nobody minds it's not like anyone was like well i don't like him now we knew anyone who liked you knew already trust me there weren't even any girls that were going that clay i can't wait to meet him even every girl was like i hope he meets a real nice boy that's what i mean do you know who's the one person on earth who didn't know he was gay and who's a huge fan of him my grandmother no my grandmother watched him on american my boy sings so beautiful oh my oh my he sings so beautiful sings like an angel and she would bought his cds and she fucking loved clay ache and then she heard he was gay she's like oh what do you mean he's such a nice boy grandma look at him i mean not like whatever but i mean he's not exactly fucking hiding it. He's just he's a gay guy who cares. He has blush on.

Oh, I didn't know. Oh, what do you fucking care? The man has eyeshadow. What are you talking about? It was a very she had to really. I go, did anyone tell you about Liberace yet, too? Because he was also. I want to break your heart here, Grandma.

But Jesus Christ, I got some news for you. I didn't really care. That was the thing. I didn't mind. She was just like surprised by it. I like really she felt lied to yeah it's very it's very strange anyone tell you shack is black yet is that have you figured that out because he is uh i was heartbroken when i found out kate mckinnon was gay because she's fucking hysterical and i think she's goddamn gorgeous. That's because you're attracted to her, yeah.

She's gorgeous, and I love her. Jimmy had a future planned out. That's why he was disappointed. That's the only reason. I thought we were getting married. He's like, oh, this is going to work someday. I'm like, oh, shit, she's not going to like me. She's going to hate me.

I still like her, but she's not going to like me. I still love her to death. I support everything she does, and I think she's glorious. She's hysterically funny. Boy, oh boy, is she good. Yeah, she is. She's hysterically funny boy oh boy is she good yeah she is funny as hell as soon as she dressed up as as uh uh justin bieber i should have known just by how well she played him that that she's seen a woman be be a man before her be a um masculine role before yeah yeah yeah she's very very very very good at being not a man no no

don't say that being anything she wants to be an impression jimmy didn't mean that by the way such a great impression he had his hand in the air grabbing like he was massaging a nut sack like he was tickling a nut sack that's imagine if your fingers in that motion tickling a whole nut sack while he was physically looking for the word impression that wasn't the right word she's so good you missed it bottom line is she's really good and clay aiken's also a great singer it doesn't matter who they fuck so i was just hard for it's fucking great so uh yeah he's in tna for a while here dicking around uh i mean it didn't matter what anybody did in tna at that point though uh he was fighting like you know six pock remember him there

fighting him guys like that there's a lot of kind of x wwe guys in tna at the time that's six pock and x pock the same guy yeah they just uh yeah he just needed a whole game yeah well yeah he couldn't be the one two three kid when he went to WCW. So then he was 6, which was 1 plus 2 plus 3. And then he went by 6-pac as like a joke because it was like 2-pac. 2-pac, right. And then he went back to WWF and then he couldn't use 6-pac. So he went with X-pac.

Got it. Because he was in D-Generation X. Was he the one that started the intellectual property the the x on the ball i believe that was sean michaels started that sean michaels and triple h started that together and he was doing it too oh he was in the group yeah because he was part of their little pack yeah no that was in wcw that was wcw that was part of the nwo this is degeneration x got it when he got fired from wcw when they signed him back in in wwf he went back and became part of that group which constantly chopping at their crotches but

i think sean michaels was the first one to do it on tv it's the weirdest thing and he got in trouble for it really and then he was like basically like fuck you that's what i should be doing that's cool and blah blah blah and vince mcmahon was like that's what i'm talking about literally everyone else was like what's they brought him in to yell at him, and then when he said his case, Vince was like, what's wrong with you? You can't see that he's right. Like, grab your balls.

Get your tits out. Let's do this. Everybody take your shirts off, damn it. Separated my quads for this. Overalls for everyone. So in 2004, Jim Ross brings him back into WWE for a minute. It only lasts four matches. It's not very long.

Yeah, he doesn't do much. He's a couple of Monday Night Raw appearances. Kane beats the shit out of him in two minutes on Monday Night Raw. You know, that sort of thing. Not really. Basically, every match I see that he's on WWE is he loses in two minutes on monday night raw and you know that sort of thing not not really basically every match i see that he's on wwe is he loses in two minutes so they bring him back as a name guy who they can use as a jobber basically brutal yeah he's a guy you know who he is now we're gonna watch this new

guy beat the shit out of him isn't that great that's not a life at all no and that's kind of the second coming of of wrestlers it's kind of it wrestlers. It's the equivalent of being banished to cruise ships or something. It's not great. That's like Michael Jordan getting dunked on by everybody in the NBA today. Yeah. That's just, oh, I don't want to watch that. Nobody wants to see that. We know that they're younger than him.

Jesus. We get it. We get it. So it's at this point that his partying and his drug use are a little bit out of control. A bit out of control, you could say. His wife at this point tries to stage an intervention. This is what happened. He said, Jerry, his dad, says, quote, it was like having a surprise birthday party for someone who didn't like birthday parties.

His mom was crying. His wife was crying. And he was shaking his head like, I don't know why you think it's so bad he didn't think he had a problem wow so he was like i don't know what the fuck is wrong with all you people but they were all clearly they saw what was wrong they saw there was a goddamn issue there uh no he's still wrestling though he's in doing independence he's not in anything major he's doing memphis wrestling throwback nights they have and he's just doing independent shit uh in 2006 though wwe comes out with their drug policy and this we've talked about before is a sweeping drug policy that they basically send a letter out

to everyone who's ever worked in wwe saying if you have because they were getting sued by people saying they contributed to their drug problem and didn't give them any help so to to publicly make a nice public image yeah this is what you do when you're a publicly traded company they put out a policy where they send everybody a letter saying if you had have had any problem with drugs past future current now fucking while ago and you want treatment you just let us know and we'll pay for it we'll send you to treatment and that's the deal and depending on how famous you were for them is how often they'll send you to treatment right because they sent tammy like 13 times tammy sitch i think we found but then other guys they do it once and they're like oh fuck yourself

that poor woman man yeah tammy's i feel so bad for her i do too man she's never gonna fix it she's never gonna stop she she can't it seems like whenever she's doing better she comes back out with another drug issue and then some kind of and then can't get something uh on the craziness corrected like something on her on her license or whatever yeah and and she can't make any goddamn money so she's doing goddamn and then she's also climbing into people's breaking and entering she's also got all sorts of crazy like personal problems poor girl but uh yeah this this uh wellness program is what they call it the wwe which is funny that's the program for people who did a bunch of drugs the wellness program so brian ends up you know everybody's pressuring him so he

registers for the program twice. And his brother said that he'd, quote, he'd just go to shut everybody up. So he'd be like, fine, I'll go to rehab. And he's like, I do a month in rehab, and then I can come back, and I get a little space from these people. They give me a little buffer. Well, also, when I get back, then they think I'm good for a while, and I've done what they wanted, and they leave me alone for a while. I've earned the trust. Yes.

for a while and I've done what they wanted and they leave me alone for a while. I've earned the trust. Yes. His brother also said and he was thinking if he went maybe WWE would give him his job back but there was never any commitment to the program. He was going to shut his family up and if he says hey look what a good boy I am

maybe WWE would take another look at him like they did with a bunch of people. They brought Marty Jannetty back fucking 20 times every time dude and that guy no one has had more of a drug problem over time than marty genetti he'll be an episode someday trust me i've been planning that one for a while it's they brought him back a shitload of times so he's not wrong to feel like this that's that's kind of the way you do it you go in you show how great you are. Scott Hall does the same thing. They bring him back.

Constantly. It's how it works there. Vince, unless you really fuck Vince over good, he brings you back. There's like two guys in history that he didn't bring back because he said, fuck them. And that was like Lex Luger and somebody else. Lex Luger left and went to Monday Nitro without any notice. Really? So, yeah.

His contract was up. They had a verbal agreement. And then instead he just went and showed up on the other show as a surprise wow he said that was the only guy he'd never fucking bring back and i'm sure there's a couple others but yeah he it's it's you have to really fuck up bad here so but he keeps going um jerry said also jerry had sent him to rehab before and spent a lot of money um and he said nothing he wouldn't stick this is what jerry says about brian here quote he left one program because the steelers game was on

and they weren't showing it at the rehab center so he's not fuck this drug stuff that's your priorities wow your priorities are well the game's on so who cares can't be here so clearly he's not real into this. He said, quote, it just wasn't sinking in. He told me, I've been through this too many times. Rehab doesn't work. And Jerry said, quote, here's a guy who had $300,000 in the bank, a beautiful house, a beautiful wife, a child, and he lost everything one by one. He couldn't understand why everyone was so concerned about him, which, God damn it, we've seen this so often with crime and sports. So much. And he's not this thing here this it's hard because he's not hurting anybody he doesn't

hurt anybody it's hard to hate a guy who came up in the shadow of his dad and hasn't really hurt anybody you know what i'm saying it's like fly williams hard to hate you couldn't hate fly williams he's just he's just a fun fucking guy that has self-destructive problems you know one of those things but he's not hurting anybody here. So he said there was times that, like, from time to time, he would go through times of being better and worse. He would show up at an indie show looking good, doing fucking, you know, working a good match, being alert and talking to the guys and being all into it. And his, you know, manic phase. And he said his brother said, quote, I'd start'd start to think well maybe he's getting a little better there'd be patches where you could

be around him and he wouldn't seem so bad so that gives you false hope that maybe they're coming around but for him it's just a just the bottom of the roller coaster or the top however you want to look at it here uh 2006 and 2007 he continues the indie scene. He wrestles him and Rikishi team up. I assume to put Rikishi's fat ass in somebody's face because they won. He's wrestling all sorts of indie shit here. Just nothing to speak of that's that important. 2008, he's wrestling more indie shit. He's wrestling against Doug Gilbert, who's Eddie Gilbert's brother.

He gets divorced in 2008. Of course. So now his wife has done a lot of drugs. He's clearly not going back to the big time in wrestling. Her patience is thin. That's what I mean. And I think it's not that I'm not saying she wants to leave him because he's not going to go back to the big time. No, he's not helping himself any.

And he's draining her life of energy and probably money probably money that's the thing the house looks like shit to have a spouse who's a drug addict like that and someone who's also on the road and a drug addict is and making less money than they're spending that's the thing that's got to be exhausting and to have and also they have a child as well so that's another problem she's got a kid at home and they have a child as well so that's another problem she's got a kid at home and yeah now february 2009 this is the one thing i can't find a lot of information on uh february 2009 he's arrested for disorderly conduct don't know exactly what happened i know it was some kind of scuffle somewhere but i don't exactly know what happened here i believe alcohol was involved of course and some fighting was involved uh could have been a bar fight type of thing. I'm not sure.

I don't have all the information on that. But he continues wrestling in 2009. God damn it. The Nasty Boys were still wrestling in 2009. I know they're probably still out there, but fuck, they must have been old. Think about that. That's sad. Jesus Christ, man.

They should be able to quit by now. I mean, fucking, they were fucking they were like knobs was limping in the 90s i can't imagine what he was doing in 2009 for christ's sake jesus so uh early 2000 early june 2009 though here uh this this is a a problem here he uh was apparently uh uh hitting on somebody's girlfriend at a bar. Her boyfriend happened to be an MMA fighter who doesn't take kindly to people hitting on his girlfriend at bars, which is why he started training for MMA in the first place, I feel like. He hits people for real.

Yeah, that's what I mean. He'll tie you up in circles and knots here. Not in circles. That would be easy to get out of. So, yeah, apparently they ended up getting into a fight. It spills outside. up in circle and knots here so not in circles that would be easy to get out of so uh yeah apparently they ended up getting into a fight uh and it spills outside i guess they apparently knocked over a couple of motorcycles in the middle of their fight no now if he's this is like every like every device typical yeah stereotypical like uh hitting on a girl and his her husband's a professional

fighter and you go outside bump into a motorcycle and eight hell's angels walk out with fucking swinging chains and shit that's exactly what i was gonna say and then you get up on the on the fucking bar and sing tequila i guess is what happens in platform that's the only way to solve everything uh so yeah apparently uh they they knocked over motorcycle bikers came out uh and then uh the the mma guy's friend said he did it about brian so that all the bikers beat the shit out of brian the only thing crazier and and less respectful of people's property and faces are by our. Are bikers. That's it. Right. MMA guys are bikers.

It's not great. So then they beat the shit out of him. The least respectful all the way down the line. You found him. It's not good. Yeah, it's not great. Maybe if it was Memphis, he could have thrown a Jerry Lawler thing out there, but otherwise it's not going to work.

So he gets the shit beaten out of him good here in that one. I don't know if it caused brain damage or whatever, but a few weeks later, he's doing some stupid stuff here. June 27th, 2009, just before 3 a.m. at a Circle K convenience store on the Highway 45 bypass and Old Hickory Drive. Oh, boy. Right away. Does that sound like something good's going to happen?

No. 3 a.m. at a Circle K. At Old Hickory Drive. And the Highway 45 bypass. Right away. Does that sound like something good's going to happen? No. 3 a.m. at a Circle K. At Old Hickory Drive. And the Highway 45 bypass. Fuck that. May as well be mile post 43. You just know something bad's going to happen. So apparently Brian was there.

And by the way, this is his mug shot from this evening, as you can see. That's a great one, isn't it? He is hammered. I'll post that. That'll be the social media post there. Apparently, they noticed him get out, start to come into the store. Do you know how some of the Circle Ks have the big soda coolers outside with the doors where you get the sodas in there, just the big ones?

He apparently tripped, bumped into it, and fell down. He knocked himself. The soda machine tripped, bumped into it, and fell down. He knocked himself. The soda machine tripped him. And then he ended up knocking the cooler sideways into something. He bumped into it and fucked the whole... I don't know how you knock over a soda cooler. I don't know if it's one of the small ones and he ran into the front of it and knocked it backwards, maybe, is all I can think. Or he got a bottle out and has a bottle opener on the front.

No, no, not one of those. Just one of the smaller gas station ones that are like kind of kind of hip height yeah yeah one of those where you open the glass doors and they have them slide open yeah it's one of those deals here uh so right away the clerk was concerned yeah that this guy you know might be in a advanced state of shit-facedness right at 3 a.m tripping over coke coolers likely yeah let's see uh the officers say he calls the cops just i'm gonna call the cops and get him here just in case here officers arrived they find brian who they described in the report as quote very unsteady on his feet and had slurred speech so uh now they tell him because he's like bumping into shit around the store they tell him you know you're

highly intoxicated we have to take you into custody. The report said he was, quote, taken into custody for his own safety due to his high level of intoxication. He can't manage his way into a fucking Circle K without knocking over equipment. He should be sitting somewhere for a while. So they said once they take him into custody, he, quote, became very belligerent. This is wonderful. They do that.

he quote became very belligerent this is wonderful they do that he cursed at an officer told the officer that once he takes these handcuffs off him he's gonna rip it rip the officer's head off oh that's an that's a threat can't do that yeah you can't do that so uh yeah he uh can't say take these cuffs off i'll rip your fucking head off that's not gonna work to a cop so yeah the clerk said he saw him fall over the cooler. He broke something, cost $200 worth of damage to the cooler. That's a whole cooler. That's a whole cooler. Yeah, they broke the thing somehow.

So knock it over. Wow, that's going to break there. So yeah, unsteady on his feet, and he's going to rip off his head is what he said. He's only charged with public intoxication, though. That's it? They were kind to him. They could have tacked on more shit yeah everything else but public intoxication so uh three days later he goes to court for it though oh he's gonna stay in jail he's got well he goes to court and they're telling him no he bonded out from that it's

just public intoxication it's probably a next morning you can bond out on your own ror yeah the judge tells him he must choose because this is his second disorderly conduct. Just a little bit ago. And then this now, this year. So the judge says you can choose between serving 30 days in jail or 30 days in an inpatient treatment center. Because clearly there's a certain issue that's causing all of your problems. And we know what it is. It's fucking booze and drugs.

We're nailing it down. So, yeah, said he must make his uh decision by the next court appearance so he ends up deciding to take the inpatient because it's either way you're going somewhere for a month yeah probably hospitals better than jail sure any day of the week i would say if you're you know a sane person who doesn't want to be in fucking jail so uh there's got to be a little more leeway in a hospital right i think so and in a in a rehab center i doubt there's so many it's not a mental institution i doubt there's so many criminal mental handcuffs you know yeah and those uh gates yeah violent criminals yeah guys yeah things like that yeah it's people going like you know i'm very sad because my dad left me when i was four right and then i drink because of that you know like that's i'd rather have that than a guy that's like hey motherfucking

give me your ramen noodles i'll take that any day of the week my left my life left so i drink a lot yeah that's better than i'll stab you for a honey bun right much better i'll stab you because you're white you're white too what are you we're both white and you have a honey bun what are we talking about we're both white we're both holding honey buns get away from me that's how stupid jail is go to the fucking inpatient thing problem is uh he doesn't show up for it at all oh no yes that's part of his plea agreement agreement so they issue a warrant for his arrest and he is jailed for 30 days for failing to go to the inpatient so he fucked that up too so he keeps so he keeps getting by uh in 2010 the he's he appears on a local uh abc memphis affiliate show with his dad yeah they go over old clips of the

memphis wrestling promotion that's that's how big wrestling was back then. In 2010, they were doing clip show retrospectives on the fucking air. That's how important that was to these people. Jerry and his kid. Yep. And yeah, they talked about how they kept everything hidden back then. Yeah. But on the show, for the first time in Memphis, Jerry said, this guy right here is my son,

Brian Christopher Lawler. And then Brian turned and he said, really? Did you Wikipedia me? Where'd you get that? I didn't know that. You're doing that, playing a little game there. It's so funny. That sounds better than what else he's doing, which is wrestling for Showtime All-Star Wrestling and Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. He's wrestling in ICP shit? He's wrestling with the clowns. Oh, my God. star wrestling and juggalo championship wrestling no yeah he's wrestling in ICP shit he's wrestling with the clowns oh my god they from what I understand those guys how about they attract a crowd they also really love wrestling yeah like all the like their fans do I've heard

wrestlers talk about they're like dude those guys fucking love it like they trained they they trained like they didn't just go in and be like yo fucking i'm famous like they went to training to do it and they actually like take bumps and beat the shit out of themselves and people have respect for those guys even though they're idiot clowns they invited eminem you know i got it they'd wrestle him i think their music's terrible and i fucking hate clowns but anybody that can any two idiots that can build an empire

out of nothing is, hey, you know what? Good for you. Tip of the cap to you because we're sitting here going, that's what we're trying to do too. Those idiots got that gross music on the radio. It got radio play. That's crazy.

They sold millions of albums, these people. That's, dude, props to you. I don't give a shit if I like it or not. That's amazing. There you go. If I say insane clown posse, people roll their eyes. That means you're famous. You win. They it out they figured it out man so yeah he's wrestling these independents here apparently one night at the uh in tennessee he's in a bit of a brawl yeah okay backstage with another wrestler where he has some shit happen to him here and

this is told i found this in a in a kind of a dirt sheet type of thing. This is told by another wrestler who was there. So other people had slightly different takes on it, but this is what generally happened. Minus like maybe this guy did this first or that guy did that first. This is the result of it. And this is the guy who was the most voluble about it, had the most to say. So I'm going to use him. It's a guy named Motley Cruz.

Motherfucker. I knew you. I said that. I'm just staring at you, deadpan. God damn it. He says, quote, the issue started after the match between Brian and Seth Knight. Brian had issues with the ref, TJ, who happens to be be related to Bishop and stiffed the kid in the ring. Apparently he,

he, there was a disagreement between Brian and the referee. And apparently there's, I think there's supposed to be a ref bump where the guys bump into the referee and Brian gave him a good shot on purpose because he was pissed off at him. Now he's this Motley Crue says, quote,

I give TJ credit because he was man enough to come to the locker room and confront brian that's the referee uh and confront brian punching him in the mouth for stiffing him wow so the ref came in and punched him at which point brian jumped on tj and bishop stepped in and pulled brian off and had tj leave the locker room till everything calmed down at that point everyone thought the problem was over. Nothing else happened until Bishop returned to the locker room after a 20-minute match with Rocker, blowed up, and Brian Christopher Sucker punched him in the mouth with a pair of handcuffs as he was walking through the curtain. So that's what he's saying.

Now, another guy says that he hit Christopher first. That's the only discrepancy really here. At that point, Bishop speared Brian through a thick wooden rail, and Brian attempted to grab him in a front face lock and laid on top of him, knowing that Bishop was blown up from the match. He's too tired is what that means. Bishop got out from underneath him and pinned him against the wall by the throat and gave him a few choice words. Bishop was talked to. It was talked into letting him go and as bishop bishop was walking off it occurred to him that he had been uh that he had been sucker punched in the mouth with a pair of handcuffs and he got pissed

off all over again and he told brian quote your daddy isn't going to save you here uh or your daddy isn't here to save you and hit brian in the face with a barbed wire baseball bat. Whoa. Okay. That's where it gets serious. Yeah. So he hit him in the face with a barbed wire baseball bat. If you don't know what that is, if you've never seen it, this used to be used in wrestling a lot.

Take a baseball bat, like an aluminum one, and wrap the business end of it in barbed wire. Thick. Not once, like over and over and over and over again. Like Jesus' crown. Exactly. Now now the thing with this is actually the strange thing is obviously it's bad to get the barbs in your head that cuts you but if you have to be hit in the head with a baseball bat this is the way to do it because it cushions the blow you don't get the ding off the aluminum because you're cushioned by the shit so oh my god the fact that it sticks in

your head is bad but it also keeps you from fracturing your skull oh jesus that's why they used to use these things and there's matches i've seen them like ecw between ian and ox axel rotten where they hit each other full on and get the fucking thing stuck in each other's arms and they're having to rip the fucking thing out they still have scars to this day from the shit it's crazy yeah it's fucking nuts so anyway yeah he said he uh hits proceeded to uh hit him with a barbed wire baseball bat and proceeded to beat his ass with his fist until brian was able to get on top uh and lay on bishop again bleeding like crazy from his face because you know he had barbed wire and a fucking face they were broke up again uh they were again broke up bishop was still mad about being sucker punched in the mouth with a pair of handcuffs barbed wire in it. It hit my fucking face. They were broke up again. They were again broke up.

Bishop was still mad about being sucker punched in the mouth with a pair of handcuffs and went into his bag to get something to hit Brian. I think it's even. Maybe we stop now? Maybe we stop. The two squared off again. Brian hit Bishop square in the face

and he did not budge Bishop and Bishop was back on Brian beating the hell out of him again. Brian was again able to work his way on top and lay on Bishop. Dustin Starr walked over, wiped all the blood off Brian's face, and pleaded for them to stop fighting. They finally separated, and that was the end of the fight. So that's a pretty rough fight back there. When there's weapons involved, it's not just two guys punching each other in the face.

Medieval ones. That's different. Yeah, you don't fucking hit somebody with a... That's a modern-day mace. Yeah, that's different yeah you don't fucking hit somebody with it's a modern day mace yeah that's brutal man so 2011 he wrestles in a few of these indies main event championship wrestling crossfire championship wrestling uh 2011 he also appears on raw yeah he does a segment on monday night raw uh where he uh it's a segment with his dad, where it's his dad's involved with a storyline with the, basically he's playing the role of the neglected son, he's saying.

The two commentators, Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler, are fighting, and Brian is taking the other commentator's side, saying that he felt his father was ashamed of him and all this type of shit. He tells the crowd, quote, I never ever felt like i had a father and uh uh while jerry lawler was traveling around the world being the king he neglected one thing me like he's doing the you know playing that all up so jerry says to him you're not the only one that's glad you didn't use the lawler name because you see brian you're a bigger screw-up than charlie sheen which was a big punch line in 2011 because he was a cokehead AIDS monkey at the time. Off the rails.

Yeah, so it's a mess. I meant to say an AIDS-ridden coke monkey, and I flipped him. Either way. It all works. It doesn't matter. It does. So 2012, he's wrestling in Crossfire Wrestling, Canadian Wrestling's Elite, and Great Lakes Championship Wrestling. Always the best. crossfire wrestling canadian wrestling's elite and grand great lakes championship wrestling

always the best uh 2013 he's you know tucking up with rakishi again to do some tag team and 2013 also on april 11th he is stopped by police he's pulled over on april 11th after he failed to stop at a stop sign and he's charged with a dui and uh because he is under the influence he's as he's being taken into custody he admitted that he consumed about half a bottle of vodka and he said i also took some xanax and some methadone as well no methadone xanax and about a half a bottle of vodka that's a lot a little fucked up yeah uh they said that he could not complete the alphabet during his field surprise i believe it not backwards fucking forward i believe it that's fucked up dude take two xanax and see if you can spell a half a bottle

of vodka no i'm just saying just take two xanax and see if you can spell your kid's name i bet he took six and a half a bottle of vodka i I'll bet you stutter. Spelling Joey. Probably. Well, he fails this test, and it's not great for him. He gets arrested for DUI, and he does get bailed out on $1,000 bond. So now, like, everybody, everyone knows he can't just say, what's everybody so upset about anymore? It's clear there's a huge fucking problem. Enormous.

It's an enormous problem, and it's been going on for 15 fucking years, at least now that we know of. What is he going to do here? He gets released from jail. This guy's got nowhere to go, really. That's the thing. Now, he's divorced. He's working the indie scene. He doesn't have like a, you know what I mean?

There's no home base. This is one of those, like, ever see on see on the wire when bubbles he quits doing heroin and he just he doesn't know what to do with himself the whole thing is like now what do i do with my days right because like his sister he stays in his sister's basement and his sister won't let him stay down there when she's at work he has to leave the house so he's like please let me stay here because he doesn't want to go out into the world where there's a bunch of heroin for him to use. So he has to go. That seems like a bad plan for somebody that's on heroin. But he had robbed her a bunch of times.

She said, last time you let me stay here, you sold all my kitchen appliances. You sold my kitchen. So I can't let you into the house. So when I'm gone, you're gone, too. He was locked in the basement. Anyway, it's one of those things here. It's a Bubbles thing where Bubbles goes was locked in the basement yeah that's uh so anyway uh it's one of those things here that they're it's it's a bubbles thing where bubbles goes and sits in the park and he's looking around and he's like you know hearing birds and he's like wow i'm always trying

to get heroin i never noticed birds like you just now he doesn't say it but you see it in his face like that's weird yeah like i'm seeing shit that i don't normally see because i'm just always on a mission yeah you know that's what i think brian's doing he's just sitting there and going man this is just to take it in for a second and relax but then it's a it's quiet day too in the park it's great but then the quiet is shattered by a just a bunch of dogs barking and brian doesn't know what's going on and he looks up and it's bobby colorado animal trainer from f from Fredericksburg, Texas. And he says, how is it you come to arrive here? What the fuck is wrong with you?

You're fucking father's famous. You got all this fucking money. You get you into the goddamn thing there. You're wrestling around, bouncing around like a fucking jerk off. I don't know what you do. You don't need this. You don't need to go on the road. Here's what you do.

Go back to you got an apartment or something. Go back there. Get yourself a nice fucking dog. You don't need drugs. You pet his fucking head. You know what that feels like? Get right between their eyes. It's like it's velvety.

You feel it. I fucking wag the tail. You feel good. It's like heroin. Let me tell you something. Quit being a fucking jerk off, by the way. I'm just going to tell you that right now. You can't have one of my dogs because you're you're gonna lose it or something you're on drugs you're driving like an asshole you cleaned up first you get yourself cleaned up then you go to the pound start there you know what i'm saying

a plan alive for 30 that's what i'm saying you're one of them 25 pound dogs and we'll see how it works from now i got geez the dogs are pulling me away. I gotta go. Poof! And in a puff of marinara sauce and dog shit, he's gone and Brian is excessively confused. He has no idea what's going on. But he's considering a dog. That's the good part there. 2014, still wrestling.

Here's his list of promotions. Wildfire Wrestling, Warriors of Wrestling, Revolution Pro Wrestling, Primal Conflict Wrestling, Pro Wrestling Blitz, and Pennsylvania Premier Wrestling. Oh, boy. Wow. Yeah.

I'm glad to hear there's so many indies going on where guys are getting work, but that doesn't seem like... Jesus, and guys like Tracy Smothers are still working in 2014. They've been working for 35 years. January 5th, 2014, he also appears on an episode of Raw where they do the Raw old school episode. He's 45. Yeah, he appears with Rikishi and Scotty Tuhati. It was like they did an old school. They brought guys out from the 80s dressed up in their gear.

Nikolai Volkov came out, for Christ's sake. It was one of those. 2015 Keystone Pro Wrestling. Preston City Wrestling. Westside Extreme Wrestling with an X, not an E. You're damn right. Ultimate Championship Wrestling, Pro Wrestling Pride, which sounds... Pro Wrestling Pride, that sounds very racist. To me, that could be either racist or gay.

Yeah. Either one. Yeah. Could be either one. Racistly gay. Isn't that weird? The two people who have chosen to use the words pride are gay people and white supremacists? That's a strange thing.

It's shocking that white supremacists hang on to it after those parades started. That's funny. When you see a Klan rally and they all have those big rainbow flags, I'm really going to be confused then. I'm going to be like, no, they're doing this on purpose. Also, target wrestling. I'm not sure if it's at a target or not it could literally be in like the frozen food aisle of a target we're not sure you never know 2016 he's doing hoosier wrestling i guess that's in indiana and smash mouth pro wrestling and uh 2016 he appears in an

instagram video with rakishi they're at a waffle house and he looks good yeah it's like late at night it's like after a show he doesn't look fucked up he's not slurring his speech he's like sharp yeah he's got color in his face people are like look at brian he's looking great this is terrific uh he's making jokes about they're talking about uh what they're eating and he's got to eat all this chicken and egg whites and all that he's making jokes to the waitress and entertaining and being kind of old self you know what i mean uh it's but it's he still he's having problems his brother kevin sums it up well here he says quote you're doing an indie show in a small town and the people don't

know you're flat broke they're cheering you taking your picture and then boom you leave and you're stuck in the same situation you were in before with the same bad feelings yeah which is what we just described earlier which you know it's the same thing with comedy it's comedy you go to these places and if you're the the middle act they think oh man you traveled here and you came up here probably getting paid good money and you're getting a hundred dollars right and you broke even to come here and you might you came up here, you're probably getting paid good money and you're getting $100 and you broke even to come here and you might be sleeping in your car. You're probably sleeping in your car if you couldn't share a room

with somebody else or something. So that's what we're talking about. You know somebody that lives here who can sleep on their goddamn couch. Sleep on their couch or yeah, that's what people do or they sleep in their car or they find a couch to crash on.

How many features I know on Facebook. Hey guys, I'm in cleveland this week anybody got a couch i can sleep it's insane ew and that by the way folks is making it yeah that's crushing your career that's your career yeah that's crazy and that's the same thing that goes on here and then maybe you'll hit the lottery it's the same exact fucking thing as wrestling god damn a six pack of beer uh thank you thanks for three beers great thank you thank you for three beers i don't get them all It's the same exact fucking thing as wrestling. I'll bring a six pack of beer. Thank you. Thanks. Three beers. Great.

Thank you. Thank you for three beers. I don't get them all. Jerry has sums it up very, very well here into about this about Brian. He says, quote, Did you ever see that movie? The wrestler? Obviously, the Mickey Rourke movie. He says, I guess it was loosely based on Jakeake the snake roberts but it really fits brian

so that's what he's saying that's who his dad who knows him kind of pretty well here that's who he's comparing him to the wrestler so that's exactly what's going on that's too bad bad stuff uh 2017 georgia premiere wrestling uh big time wrestling freedom pro wrestling and empire state wrestling oh yeah so he's in all of these different ones holy shit is he still oh no i thought that oh my god he the rock and roll express as of 2017 we're still doing tag team matches no the rock and roll express and terry funk who's 70 at this point it was he could he could work forever, though. They beat Brian Christopher, Doug Gilbert, and Jerry Lawler

in 2017. Jerry Lawler was wrestling in 2017. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. In Raleigh, North Carolina. Why do that, Jerry? You have a lot of money.

Don't hurt yourself. You should. Now, 2018 starts, and it's a rough year for Brian. Right off the bat. In January, his mom's dad dies. His grandfather,

who he was reasonably close to dies a little depressed about that but you're grown you're in your 40s you expect to get over that you'll get over your grandparents dying because they're old and you've you've kind of been tempered to this for a while you know that's gonna happen it's probably your last living grandparents so you know you knew that eventually they'd go but still very sad then. Then February 18th, 2018, middle of the night at a hotel. Obviously, these are all bad things. It's him, and we're going to talk about a guy who used to work for TNA Impact named Chase Stevens, who's another wrestler. Apparently, middle of the night, Brian stumbles into the lobby of the hotel covered in blood with severe facial injuries

described as, quote, swelling all over an approximate two inch, an approximate two inch laceration to his right eyebrow, orbital socket dislocation or discoloration. Sorry, that's much better to both eyes. Bleeding from the nose abrasions and noticeable front tooth dental injuries somebody beat the shit out of him that sounds like you got the shit you got worked over good okay so uh from everything they gather the police are called and they make they they uh find the chase stevens guy in his hotel room and stevens told police that lawler caused problems in a nightclub earlier and then he refused to go to sleep on the floor of the hotel room that was i guess his spot

for the night didn't want to go there uh so they ended up getting into a fight now this stevens admits to punching brian in the face two times but he says it was in self-defense that's his thing he said brian attacked me and he also said brian fell and hit. That's his thing. He said, Brian attacked me. And he also said Brian fell and hit the ground and his face on the ground. He's still the strongest man alive. Yeah. He's still wandering. So they said that there was visible blood stains on the carpet of the room and a small amount of blood smears on the wall and a small amount of blood spatter on the sheets.

So it was a beating. And the trash can inside the room had blood and tissues you know someone was cleaning up blood off their head or something like that now uh uh he said that the the whole thing brian says the whole thing started when he was flirting with a woman that turned out to be this guy's girlfriend this is the second time now somebody's worked him over because he's flirting with the wrong guy's girlfriend. He's got to stop that. Find out if whoever you're flirting with is with anybody currently that night.

You got a man? Yeah. I got to go. Is he here now? If so, have a good one. What the fuck, man? Yeah, he lives in fucking Delaware. That's whatever we could talk about.

Do you want to dance? Yeah, he's at the bar. He'll be back here in a minute and he fights MMAma it's a different story or he's another wrestler so uh this this wrestler here is uh the other guy stevens is arrested for you know beating up uh uh brian brian needed surgery afterwards on his face i guess dental shit and a bunch of other shit too and uh yeah he said uh uh the report said quote is the police report waller said he was attacked for no reason but he was very confused the physician reported that waller had several broken broken broken bones in his face broken teeth and and surgery was required officers were told that a trauma team had been activated

after lawler's injuries had been evaluated lawler was intoxicated on alcohol and admitted he is on several prescription drugs lawler told me that he absolutely wants to pursue charges against the other man so he wants to press charges i don't know if that changes later when he sobers up and press charges on other wrestlers kind of one of those things yeah it's all in the game you know depressed charges for your fucking mistake bro it's a drunken fight in the room you know what it's all in the game man you guys all you know you don't do that mob guys don't press charges on other mob guys you know what i mean you fucked up you fucked up the fucking drop man you didn't do it right you owe three you messed it up so uh june 5th 2008 this was a couple a little before that now june 5th 2008 lawler here brian is now 46 and a friend of his a 33 year old terry 2018 2018 i'm

sorry uh brian's 46 his friend is 33 who he's with a guy named terry teague who's another wrestler i believe they are at a hampton inn oh no and um in memphis at 175 peabody place and police are flagged down to a disturbance at the hampton inn uh the hotel manager here tells police that lawler and teague had been staying in the room without paying he said they checked him into the room using a company credit card but then when they went to pay the card didn't have enough money to cover it it's an 802.38 hotel bill uh so been there for like six months that's yeah it's been there forever and there's some shitty memphis hotel fucking they they moved in man so that includes furniture so they were booked into into bahir they're they're released on a $250 bond. And yeah, so there's that.

They released them. And now, I mean, dude, everybody reads about this in Memphis. Anything he does in Memphis, it's in the paper. It's on the news, the local news. Like, he's just a fucking disaster. It's getting embarrassing. And every time his father's got to try to make, because right away, they all go to Jerry. So Jerry, your kid got arrested. What do you think of that? He's got to try to make, because right away they all go to Jerry. So Jerry, your kid got arrested.

What do you think of that? He's got to try to make excuses. I mean, he's got a kid. He can't be seeing his kid. He can't be a great father right now is what I'm getting at. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do, but not as bad as I feel for Brian Lawler, a policy analyst at the Georgia governor's office of planning and budget. Brian Lawler, back-end architect at Wonder Workshop in Fort Collins, Colorado. upon a policy analyst at the georgia governor's office of planning and budget uh brian lawler

back-end architect at wonder workshop in fort collins colorado brian lawler senior account executive in the department of defense slash special programs in sterling virginia yeah brian lawler director at black sparrow business consulting ining in Queensland, and Brian Lawler, Enterprise Risk Manager, which definitely not our guy. No risk management at all here at UCI Insurance Services in Massachusetts. So there's that. July 7, 2018, 1 o'clock in the morning.

Think good things are going to happen? Think I'm going to say he saves an old lady from a house fire? No. No. He's pulled over at 1 a.m. Of course. For swerving and speeding. Problem is, when they hit the lights, he doesn't pull over.

Oh, he takes off. He takes off. Doesn't really take off, just drives. And we see this a lot. If you watch Live PD, you'll see this a lot. And there's a reason why people do this. If they're getting pulled over and they're in their own neighborhood, they will drive to their house. If they're getting pulled over and they're in their own neighborhood, they will drive to their house because it's worth it to them to get that extra charge rather than have their car towed and impounded and then they have to pay to get it out.

Otherwise, if they can get to their garage or their driveway, they're not going to tow the car out of their driveway. That's good thinking. That's why people do it. That's amazing thinking. That's exactly why people do it. You know, it would be smarter thinking is don't fucking drink and drive. Don't drink and drive in the first place. But yes, and that's what brian said now he told the cops when he finally does pull over that i was trying to make

it home yeah that's exactly what he was doing now they the police officer says that he smelled like alcohol and he had an open 12 and 12 ounce can of beer in the car. Okay? So the problem is here, so they arrest him for DUI and evading arrest. Okay? He was in this area of Tennessee for a show that was going to be later on that night that he will never get to. Now, he's arrested. He had a zero blood alcohol level, though. Zero, zero, zero. Blue triple zeros on this bad boy.

zero zero blue triple zeros on this bad boy and uh he says he says that he made a deal with the police officer that if the breathalyzer hits zero he's not gonna fucking you're not gonna arrest me right and the cop said of course not and he said he blew and it is that he definitely blew a triple zero but he's still arrested for a dui of course they still think he's fucked up in some way he says that he uh uh he says that he they said he crossed the double yellow lines he said that he was using his knee to steer at the time he was doing something else and steering with his knee probably on his phone or something he was saying so uh yeah that's that's what he says like i wasn't fucked up swerving i was just using my knee doing something they thought i was fucked up and i had a can of booze in the car but i wasn't drinking it because i blew triple zeros and they

arrested me anyway one One of those. So his brother says about it. They take him to jail. His brother says, quote, technically, he should have never been in jail. It's like the Dukes of Hazzard. The cops see him constantly getting out of stuff and they're looking to put him away, which is probably true. Also, they're like, oh, it's this idiot again, you know, and get them Duke boys. Now, OK, here's where it gets really really interesting

here uh july 25th they keep him in jail and we'll talk about why would they keep him in jail and what ends up happening here uh july 25th he uh uh he what there we'll talk about what happens when he first gets taken into jail uh uh an officer Futrell, who's the intake officer, she questions him about basic questions, mental health and physical health and things like that. Brian told her he had attempted suicide on two occasions and that he had a history of depression and anxiety and also told her that he had been diagnosed with a major depressive mood disorder and that he was taking a number of prescription medications for depression anxiety pain and inflammation because also his fucking body is jacked up after 20 years of wrestling it's it's hurting man anybody's is

and he took he used to he was a guy who would put his body out there too he would do you know he wasn't a he wasn't it wasn't like his dad where, you know, he'd take one big bump a match or something. He was flying around getting his ass kicked. So apparently, even though he said all those things, the jail's computer automatically changes his positive response on if he's ever had suicidal things to a negative response because all this was two more than two years prior to this incarceration. So like didn't count. Doesn't matter. Apparently. Yeah. So apparently there's no it wasn't noted anywhere in the system,

nothing like that. So Brian's sitting in jail, and Jerry comes to bail him out. The bail is $40,000. What? Because he's had a lot of issues. That's how many issues he's had. Blew a triple zero.

And it's 40K to get out. That's how much they're like, we don't trust this motherfucker at all. $40,000. Jerry said he got the call and said, not again. He just can't stay straight. This is ridiculous. But he went there.

He drives out to the Hardman County Jail in Boulevard, Tennessee. Oh, man. He gets in there. He said everybody there said they all greeted him, asking for autographs. And, oh, shit, it's Jerry Lawler. And selfies. Yeah, would you please impregnate my daughter? Jerry said, quote, it was like a personal appearance.

It was crazy. Anywhere in Tennessee is going to be like this, though. So he gets in the jail. He talks to Brian. And he said he started to feel a little better because he heard what happened with Brian and that he you know that he blew a triple zero so that was something he was happy about he wasn't driving around shit-faced or anything like that he also uh the sheriff john doolan then joins the conversation here and uh he tells brian that they had met before and that brian appeared when brian appeared to be driving erratically and that the the sheriff didn't arrest

him but instead pulled him over then followed him home because he was close to his house he said do you remember me from doing that shit he goes yeah so no one's trying to hem you up basically is what he's saying we've done you favors in the past yeah we've done you right now we're gonna fuck you over so uh he jerry said quote he asked brian if he remembered and he did and the sheriff told him that's because I care about you. Now go into the bathroom and take a look in the mirror. Brian went into the bathroom and he looked terrible. I was crying.

Brian was crying. So he's saying the sheriff was trying to have his own little intervention about here. So he said that he came there to bond him out, but he was talking to, Jerry ended up talking to the sheriff a little more, and they decided that it was pointless to bring Brian home. Jerry says, Jerry Lawler says that the sheriff told him since Brian

was scheduled for a court appearance in the next week, at which time he's definitely going to get sentenced because it's a mandatory 90 days for the DUI for him. So he said he's going to get sentenced to that, leave mandatory 90 days for the DUI for him. So he said he's going to get sentenced to that. Leave him in here. Let him clean up.

And that way, that'll be time served also. And he'll have less time he's got to do then. Why take him home now? And Jerry said that made sense. Jerry says, quote, he told me this is the safest place for Brian to be because we will get him the help that he needs. He said the sheriff said quote i will personally look out for brian brian will be safe in here so jerry feels good about that he feels like that's better than him being out on the streets and and you know whatever

and it's going to get him he'll definitely show up as his court appearance he's not going to blow that now it's just better so he says that jerry said he decided to leave brian there said fine i'm going to leave him here. Jerry said, quote, I was hoping staying in jail would mean he'd finally get help. That's what the sheriff promised, that they had a rehab program in the jail. But Brian never gets any drug or alcohol or mental health treatment at this jail at all. Nothing. Gets no treatment whatsoever for anything even the mental

shit uh he was only given aspirin yeah and uh and his medication for depression but he was forced off the anxiety pills and the pain pills and the inflammation pills cold turkey yeah so three different prescriptions they take him off cold turkey right now can't do that no that's not great that's i mean i don't know if jail wise you can but that's not good on a human body yeah so july 28th 2018 he's still in jail yeah uh he's still in jail apparently he gets in a fight in jail um he is he's playing cards and he's being loud while he's playing cards so he gets in an argument with another inmate who tells him to shut the fuck up a Guy named Tamarian Williams. And he yelled at Lawler to stop.

I guess Lawler, I guess Lawler, something happened. His pants fell down. His prison issue pants fell down. He went to pick him up. And this guy punched and sucker punched him. Basically was what everybody said. Brian was like, all right, relax, dude, whatever. And then went to pull his pants up.

And this guy socked him in the face is how it went uh so then lawler uh lawler got him good too he like cut his face open and shit brian said he demanded to be taken to a plastic surgeon in a hospital er he's like not gonna have the prison guys fucking this is my face and you know i'm a performer and all that shit but he was told that it was saturday and he would have to wait until Monday to get seen by a nurse who was working at the jail. So you can bleed for two days, basically, is what he's told. And he's also placed in solitary confinement. Oh, Jesus. Now, the police will say this is not for a punishment for the fight, but for his own protection. Protection, right.

That's what they're saying. They place him in solitary. Bleed alone. Bleed alone while withdrawing from three medications good luck asshole so they stick him in there not cool uh they gave him a band-aid for his wounds that need a plastic surgeon moved him to a solitary cell uh they did leave him with his shoelaces though which is weird when you place in solitary you're not supposed to have anything that can hurt you. Also, this cell featured bolts that protrude from the wall, which is a weird thing that normally these cells don't have that. So after a little while of him being in the cell, we'll talk about how all this happened. But two of the guards end up coming in and they find him hanging in a cell.

They find him hanging from his shoelaces here. They end up cutting him down. There's no scissor. There's no knife or scissors in the jail. They must use the children's, the children's safety scissors that they give to the prisoners. That's what they're trying to cut him down with. Unbelievable. Where I would say seconds count when you're you know strangling to death probably seconds count

so we'll find out why it's so bad anyway but uh yeah he uh he ends up bringing uh uh he's unconscious they take him to the hospital uh he has to go on life support the whole family comes jerry comes in and they end up having to take him off life support and he dies in the hospital damn it uh yeah he dies in the hospital from you know complications of of you know a suicide attempt basically here uh jerry says quote there's nothing that's going to bring brian back that's not going to happen but it was preventable yeah now um this is from abc 24 in Memphis. They had a thing here where they say, basically, Jerry says this. At 1030 that morning, I was in Raleigh, North Carolina. I received a phone call from Brian. A collect call that's monitored and recorded, and it's timed.

15 minutes is all the time you can talk. That morning, though, he talked perfectly rational, perfectly normal he just went on a little bit uh he just went on a little bit that we had a meeting a couple weeks ago with the sheriff and that brian went on about how none of the stuff that the sheriff promised would take place had taken place and that he just talked about the bad conditions there at the jail we got cut off mid-sentence after 15 minutes and we didn't hear anything until 2 30 that afternoon my fiance, Lauren, got a call from someone. Actually, I spoke with the sheriff, with the sheriff,

and he said that Brian had been involved with an altercation with another inmate. There was a fight. The sheriff's actual words were, Brian was acting a fool and picking a fight with someone he shouldn't have picked a fight with. Wow. That's what the sheriff said.

What a shitty thing to say. Yeah, so Jerry says, Brian got a laceration over his eye and they stitched him up and he and he was fine, which wasn't actually true. They just gave him a bandaid. Of course, we heard later on from when I witnessed that the fight went nothing like the sheriff said. Then a few hours later, I got another call from a Raleigh in Raleigh from a deputy sheriff saying, Mr. Lawler, I've got some bad news. Your son, Brian, hung himself in the jail. some bad news your son brian hung himself in the jail so it was just from talking to brian early and earlier in the day and hearing about the incident in the afternoon all the way to the

fact that he was gone that evening just doesn't add up so many of the eyewitnesses who have spoken to us and gotten in touch with us the stories just don't jive so yeah he's uh he's just start doing some investigations we'll talk about it here he's got the means to do this shit and a name, too, to fucking put out there. And a name that was still pretty good in Memphis. It was late in Tennessee. Yeah. So Lawler here, Jerry, they get a hold of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation's toxicology report for when he went into the jail. Shows that no basic drugs had been detected in Brian's bloodstream.

He was sober as fuck. There were traces of oxycodone and oxymorphone, but not an intoxicant amount. And yeah, so and they said those were that he had a prescription for for chronic pain, knee injury, anxiety, depression. So that's what he had. Traces of that. No, he wasn't. No reason to be there he wasn't

fucked up he shouldn't have been there probably zero blow triple zeros and you're not you don't have a bunch of drugs in your system you shouldn't be there that's all there is to it after he dies jerry lawler texts a photo of brian's dead body to the sheriff to john doolan that's rough he says quote i told him i trusted you and believed you and when you told me my son would be safe in your jail and now he's dead doolan texted back quote i'm sorry for your loss wow it's cold balls cold fucking balls cold blood why return that at all cold fucking blood don't say that so uh picture of a corpse sir yeah with and well there's a they talk about the neck and there's a lot more to this we're going to talk about very quickly

here a lot of people come out to mourn him uh the rock makes an instagram post says we rode daily 1500 miles a week trained together at any gym we could find ate together at any waffle house off the highway wrestled together in flea markets to state fairs, shared motel rooms together, and we would always dream about what life would be like in the big leagues. I never knew him to be suicidal, but I guess sometimes the pain just gets too much for one to take. Yeah, so a lot of people around him just said that you could see him kind of spinning out lately and we've we saw this year he just kind of escalated here um they his brother says that he was buried in a pittsburgh steelers themed casket because that's what he wanted and that must have been that's the that's funny too because that's like the ultimate stick to

jerry now buy that now spend eight grand on the steelers' casket. That's pretty funny. With like the immaculate... With Frank O'Harris picking it an inch off the ground, a picture of it on there. Or them just beating Cleveland. Right on the top. A picture of fucking Greg Lloyd maiming Bernie Kosar. So I guess Jerry thinks this is obviously preventable he says they told he told them they

were suicidal he was suicidal and they didn't even bother entering it into the computer they didn't care they didn't take the proper course of action to prevent himself from they left him with shoelaces and a fucking cell with bolts in it right this isn't great knowing that you just yanked him off a bunch of medication also uh uh the and we'll get into this deeper the one of the guards saw brian standing with a towel over his head on a bench in his cell standing there and they ignored him they instead went and threw garbage out and then returned to the cell later and he was in the same position and then they went oh maybe there's a problem that's literally what happened here his friend ter Teague, the hotel skipper, he said, quote, I think they were strangling him.

I think they had him down in his holding cell and they were strangling him and he was fighting for his life. He talked to me because he said he doesn't think Brian would kill himself. He said he talked me out of it. Again, he told me, listen, look at life from outside the box. He said he told me straight up, man, if I ever die, don't let him say it's a suicide, he said, because here's the thing. Even if nobody else in this world loves me, I love myself enough to not take my own life. And he said, that's what he said. But we don't know.

People say that when they're feeling good, especially if they're manic depressive. But also, he had every reason in the world to live because he's going to beat this case. He was fucking sober. And he even says here like, yeah, it wasn't like Kerry Von Erich who knew he was going to prison. And he knew it because he knew what he did. It wasn't one of those things. This guy Teague even showed text messages between them in June and July showing Lawler talking about trying to get Teague to take suicide prevention and take awareness seriously and shit like that.

He was aware of it that month and previous to that. He also says this, Teague says, yeah, he said that Teague says the smiling mugshot has much more meaning. He said, when we got to jail for the hotel thing, and I heard the jailers tell him, law or law enforcement is going to kill you yet. Brian was just smiling. So I think it was kind of thought he was joking around.

He says this guy takes as he believes the police were after him and everything like that. He says, I believe that them officers and I pray to God. I hope that law. I hope that that lawyer would make everyone who was working that day take a polygraph test because then the truth would come out. So basically, here's what happened. The shit wasn't entered into the system. The cell where he was placed contained numerous large bolts protruding from the upper portion of the wall that were perfectly situated to serve as an anchor anchor for a ligature.

This is directly from the lawsuit that's going to happen here brian uh had prior suicide attempts major depressive mood disorder withdrawal a head injury all this type of shit was allowed to keep his shoes with the shoelaces in a room with anchors uh for a ligature situated around all around the cell and they call it deliberate indifference to his well-being uh they said they routinely put a uh inmates into the cell with their shoelaces uh without re-evaluating for suicide risk that's what the the police said they always do that the protruding bolts make absolutely no sense and the failure to remove these protruding bolts shows reckless disregard for the well-being of the inmates of the jail. Given Brian's mental health history and his drug and alcohol history, they should have done more. At 6.30 p.m. July 28, 2018, one of the guards, Gonzalez, walked by the cell,

and he said that he observed Brian standing on a bench in his cell with a towel over his face. Rather than immediately accessing the cell to make sure he was okay, Rather than immediately accessing the cell to make sure he was OK, Gonzalez walked by the cell despite this concerning sight in reckless disregard for Brian's health and welfare. Gonzalez knew or should have known that Brian was in need of immediate medical attention, but he failed to take any action to check on Brian. The conduct of Gonzalez constitutes deliberate indifference and highlights the woefully inadequate training policies that were in place in the jail. After taking out the garbage and returning, Gonzalez again observed what he claims he still thought Brian was standing on a bench in his cell with a towel over his head and finally called for assistance. So this is, if he got him right away, this is minutes that have gone by. So he wasn't standing, he was just hanging.

He was hanging. Yeah, that's what it was. gone by so he wasn't standing he was just hanging he was hanging yeah that's what it was uh gonzalez didn't immediately access the cell though and instead spoke for some period of time with another officer uh wiggins here come on wiggins you can't go into policing if your name is wiggins you just can't uh it's just ruined for you uh about what he thought he was observing like do you think we should go in there i mean he could be could be dying. We don't know. Jesus Christ. Upon information here, they say Gonzalez thought Brian was, quote,

faking a suicide attempt, is what he told him. That's what he thinks. I think he's faking a suicide attempt. I'm not going to go in there. That's what he said. Finally, somebody, the other guard, came to see for herself, and when she responded, she realized Brian was hanging from a bolt in the cell by his shoelaces.

You know, when they looked a little further just to make sure he wasn't dead. So, yeah, they said based on Gonzalez account of these events, he literally walked past Brian's cell and looked in the cell while Brian was hanging from one of the protruding bolts and did nothing to help. was hanging from one of the protruding bolts and did nothing to help uh yeah they're saying uh that the jail failed to have suicide scissors or an appropriate knife immediately available instead of to use children's scissors to cut brian down by which time he was not breathing and unresponsive un-fucking-real uh jerry says quote this has been a nightmare as you can imagine from the moment i got the call saying that brian hung himself um says, Brian being my son, I knew him, everyone around him who knew him, and they all have expressed doubts that this was a suicide. So that's what he's saying. Not only did they was it reckless?

He's saying he doesn't even think it was a suicide. He's saying he thinks they killed him. Not only did they. Yeah, that's what it is. He says that his lawyer says we've received countless calls, text messages from people, actual eyewitnesses that were in the jail and saw things that happened on the actual day that Brian died. That has now opened up a whole new can of worms. It just doesn't seem like it was a suicide. This is fucking insane.

He's taken in for nothing and then allowed to commit suicide. And they think that maybe it wasn't because there's ligature marks that are don't aren't consistent with shoelaces there that are interesting. And yeah, Jerry said his son and other his son was with other inmates at the jail. He and his family members kept in close contact with Brian. Everybody was in contact with him. So he says, you know, brian he said that brian was perfectly rational jerry did and uh then they got the call about the fight and they yeah they said it was a sucker punch and uh he says jerry says it just doesn't pass the smell test he uh he said that jerry said after the sheriff told his fiance that brian used shoestrings to hang himself the

photo show marks on either side of Brian's neck, but not in the front of his neck. Jerry says, quote, just look at his neck and look at his hand. You can see the lines on his neck all the way around from here to here. What would be the length of your hand as if he was trying to keep the pressure off? So he's saying there's nothing here. Just like if you put your hand up to block a choke from a behind strangle.

Yeah. So that's what he's saying here. He says, I think the pictures indicate something other than someone hanging himself with a shoelace. So those are some strong shoelaces to Brian's 230 pounds. A big dude. That's a big dude. Yeah. Also, they said the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said the investigation isn't complete.

So, you know, Jerry, it doesn't have full access to the case file and then it'll all be cleared up. Jerry said that they told him all 20 of the cameras inside the jail were not working. Yeah, that's at the time. And that's straight. So whenever a guy hangs himself at the jail, the fucking cameras are never hit the switch. They hit the switch. It's pointed this way. What the fuck is that?

It's like almost like why fucking have them? The whole point of having them is to catch people doing shit so make sure they're fully operational jesus christ uh jerry said that quote uh jerry and his family this is what the lawyer said just want to know the truth about what happened to brian jerry says he won't quit until we find out exactly what happened the sheriff said that he had no indication that brian was suicidal he wasn't on suicide watch uh august 20th 2018 a guy gets caught in jail uh with identity theft using brian's identity oh in jail yeah a month after he's dead uh less than a month after he's

dead uh he was it was a don terrius jones committed committed identity theft by using his social security number to make calls. So that was interesting there. And he made calls to his family and shit like that. So that's it. It's too bad. It's a fucking strange thing, man. Very, very strange. So they're saying that there was something about the pin and the social security number. And the law lawyer said at some point, Brian clearly gave this guy his pin number.

He Brian told him to call his family and let Jerry know what's going on. All that is consistent because Brian was in solitary. So he said, hey, call my family. Tell them I got in a fight. Here's my pin number. Use my shit. Then you don't have to use yours. And then the guy just started using his own. Obviously, he's a fuck. He's in fucking jail. The guy's dead. He's my pin number. Use my shit. Then you don't have to use yours. And then the guy just started using his own.

Obviously, he's in fucking jail. The guy's dead. He's not using it. Exactly. Fuck it. Let's see if I can call my mom. It works. Yeah.

Who wouldn't? I mean, that's probably very normal. So he said after Brian was transported to med, this guy attempted to contact his own family to tell him what was going on. But that was that. his own family to tell him what was going on but uh that was that now uh december of 2018 jerry lawler says until this time we haven't been able to get any answers from anybody that's the thing that's so frustrating you sit around hoping the phone is going to ring anytime any day you'll hear some kind of information something positive it's such a slow process he said in the words of

my attorney there's so much smoke here that it's come out of the Bolivar jail that there's got to be a fire somewhere. And if you're right, and we can help unearth that, then maybe things will change. And it'll get better for some people down the line. So January 2019, Lawyers filed two subpoenas in regards to the death. And then July 29, 2019, recently, six months ago, five months ago, the lawsuit is filed. Yeah. And you can read it all online. I read the whole thing.

And yeah, it's a lot of what we talked about. It is for $3 million. And they said that he seeks, this is the maximum permitted by law in this case. Should be much more. In addition to that, if the plaintiff's award a punitive damages amount to be determined by the jury. If the jury believes, OK, also that the defendant, the Hardman County, be required to put in place proper policies and training to address the provision of a timely and adequate protection and provision of medical and mental health care, particularly in situations such as those addressed in this complaint of someone in mental distress. such as those addressed in this complaint of someone in mental distress. Also, if Hardman County hasn't had an unconstitutional policy or practice with regard to the provision of mental and medical health care to inmates

that are taken into its custody, you have a history of suicide attempts. Basically, you have to fucking protect people. They're suing also in the lawsuit, not just for money, that they actually would have to put protections in to try to get people to not kill themselves a little bit. Just a little bit. Don't make it easier. Brian here is buried at the Memphis Funeral Home and Memorial Gardens in Bartlett, Tennessee.

There. And so that's where he is. Can't get enough of Brian Christopher Lawler. There is a change.org petition good that you can sign it's this petition is to help protect us all from police corruption our goal is 2500 signatures those will get it uh those will get it before the appropriate court date blah blah blah it's basically this is a a thing it's to open up it's to open this up to like a they want to have like a committee here to uh to look at the processes.

It will set up a new procedure for how jails handle inmates who get into altercations. It will set up rules on how to handle situations that arise. It will also mean that each situation will be documented and investigated, even if it means forming a group just for these things. They will be called the Turn It Up Council. They will be a group made up of citizens and law enforcement officials who will investigate each case true is it uh true it sounds like a lot of work and time but nothing in life comes easy they have 474 signatures right now out of the 2500 of the goal so uh that's that whatever if you're into that you're into that but uh that is brian christopher lawler and uh that is quite the fucking tale that's too

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