Crime in Sports - #191 - Dancing To His Own Beat - The Restrainedness of Clarence Kay

Episode Date: January 14, 2020

This week, we explore the life, and considerable screw ups of a man who was a national champion in college, and played in three Super Bowls, only to be overshadowed by a slew of almost innumerable run ins with police. He is apparently a terrible driver, and he makes it even worse by never having a license. What he does have, is a lot of cocaine, and several women with orders of protection against him for his insane behavior! Play in multiple Super Bowls, but never win one, always test positive for cocaine, and always know that a restraining order is just a piece of paper with Clarence Kay!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder##191 -  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It's going to be it's going to be fun. It's a guy that I had up until I started researching this this week had no clue about him at all that he I knew who he was. He played football for 10 years in the nfl so i knew who he was but i had no idea about any of the stuff that went with him he just seemed like a quiet guy who played tight end oh it's one of those guys so on yesterday jimmy had to stop by for a moment there and i didn't tell him who we were doing because you know keep it keep it for his reactions genuine but i said we're gonna we're doing a bronco tomorrow it's a lifelong bronco yeah and he was like the look on his face was like oh no which one of my heroes will you destroy now thanks he's just a tight end yeah i i know i know a tight

end which one from shannon sharp no no before him oh jesus right before shannon he's a white guy no he's not no, definitely black guy. Green? Not color, but person. Yes, he's a green man. One green man and one purple man. Who the hell was before Shannon Sharp? For 10 years, all the Super Bowl teams of the 80s.

Oh, no. Clarence K. No. You don't remember Clarence K? He was their tight end forever he was like the fourth amigo did he catch like four passes no he got a lot of passes i don't know who the fuck that is their standard tight end for 10 years like literally their number one tight end are you sure i am positive i remember him very well as a kid watching the games yeah i you know

never thought he was a criminal but here here he is. So guess what? He's a criminal. Clarence Hubert Kay is his name. Poor pastor. K-A-Y is how you spell his last name. Some people put an E on it. You never know. Born July 30th, 1961.

Like I said, he played in the 80s. He played in the cocaine era, and that affected him a lot. He's from Seneca, South Carolina. That's where he was born and raised, in South Carolina. And he's an athlete. I mean, just from the start. Honestly, can't find a lot about his home life growing up.

It's weird. He was always a star, but not like a star. It's hard to explain. He wasn't the quarterback. I loved the team. A bunch of features on. I have no fucking idea who he is. And he was always a star, but not like a star. It's hard to explain. He wasn't the quarterback. I loved the team. A bunch of features on. I have no fucking idea who he is. And he was there every year.

Every year. And he will go over his stats. He always caught passes. He caught big passes. Really? Yeah. He was one of John Elway's. You know, he was one of John Elway's, we need to get that first down, scramble around, and

find Clarence Kay underneath for 11 yards. He was one of those guys. Good Lord. That kind of tight end. How much of my childhood did I block out due to trauma? He was a really good blocker, too, which in John Elway running around, it would help to have a good tight end blocker because they were trying not to get him killed, basically, as a young man. He was running a lot.

Yeah, and they draft him the year after they get Elway, so they're trying to him like a he's a weapon and he can block wall him up it's perfect but uh he's a real athlete he's about uh six foot three about 240 pounds is his playing weight and he's a sculpted i mean you know if you drew a picture of an athlete that's what you draw a picture of him as an athlete look at that i believe it yeah he looks like an olympian or some sort of greek you know and six three six three okay there's certain places says he's six six but every most of the places i trust more say six three so i'm gonna go with six three including a police report or two or twelve or fourteen or i think eighteen in this particular case those are the ones i rely on most yeah they're pretty good he's he's got about 18 of those lined up for us to go over so there's quite a few here uh

he goes to seneca high school in seneca south carolina and he is just a huge athlete he letters in three varsity sports imagine being that good of an athlete no just i'm just good at everything i can't imagine they put me in a uniform i go out. No. I'm just good at everything. I can't imagine. They put me in a uniform. I go out there, and I'm just real good at it. And I do better than everyone else. Everyone. Isn't it weird?

I'm just gifted. He earned four letters in football, so all four years. That means a freshman, he earned a varsity letter. Wow. Which is impressive. Four letters in basketball, which means as a freshman. Every year. He's lettering.

And four letters in track and so track all three three sports all four years he was incredible that's amazing he was in a sport through every fucking season through every suit yeah always in a sport as soon as something ends he goes to the next one absolutely they would that's what they would keep kids in track that are on a lot of kids play play football and shit would stay in shape by running track in the off season and keep some kind of in a in a regimen that practice after school yeah that was the thing yeah you'd see like uh some of like the some of the basketball players played soccer i remember and shit like that there's different ones you'd see and the girls just played field hockey ours were volleyball volleyball we had a good field high they were

like state champions every year in field hockey i don't know i don't even know if my team had one of those at my school just chicks and skirts with those little sticks so right like half a hockey stick yeah yeah as a teenage boy as a teenage boy it was a good team to have this is great i like game days yeah a bunch of girls with their sticks walking around ready to whack another girl in the teeth while she's got a little plaid skirt on there's nothing wrong with it not to be a not to be whatever but i mean when you're 16 that's pretty cool you know you're like tough chicks that dress hot are amazing yeah this is great stuff so anyway he's he's a he could have kicked ass in field hockey this guy i'm sure he would have been great uh as a member of the track team he was a three-time all-region selection, and he was named to the all-state team in his senior year.

So he's a real athlete here. He's a champion high jumper. He was the 1978 region champion. That's his sophomore year, by the way. A region champion in the high jump. And the 78 and 79 upper state champion in the high jump. And the 1978 state champion in the high jump the guy is amazing yeah this is a guy you want as a tight end this is like an antonio gates prototype it's

also a guy that fucking enjoyed high school oh god he had so much fun in his life when he showed up to a party everyone go hey it's holy shit it's clarence oh you know Get the other keg. The good one. Clarence is here. No, the good weed. Put the good weed away. Give Clarence the good weed. Clarence is here. This is special. Don't worry.

Clarence will carry the keg for us. Now it's a party. Clarence is here. That's one way to keep from getting made fun of as being Clarence Hubert. Just be the best at everything. Well, I'm just the best at everything. If you don't like it, I'll jump over you. So there's that. And then probably kiss your girlfriend. Yeah, I'm just the best at everything. If you don't like it, I'll jump over you. So there's that. And then probably kiss your girlfriend.

Yeah, because she'll probably like me. Because she's asking for it. She wants me to. Not in that way. She literally said, Clarence, kiss me in front of my boyfriend. Yeah, she's literally asking me to do it. Fuck him, kiss me. Yeah, you're amazing at everything.

You're probably good at kissing, too. She's asking for it. She's asking. Hey good at kissing, too. She's asking for it. She's asking. Hey, what do you want? She's asking for it. Fuck out of here. So he's asking for it. That was awesome.

His brother's asking for it. What are you coming to me for? So, yeah, he's a badass, basically. If you're a state champion at anything in high school, that's pretty impressive. So as a tight end, though, if you think about all these skills he's fast he can jump everybody which is good for you know any kind of receiver to go up and get a ball he's kind of like an antonio gates prototype of basketball playing all right athletic you know uh but he's also he's known as like the meanest cat on the field at tight end oh my god he's a he's a nasty blocker like as much as

he's a good he's got good hands his blocking is what he's there for people he will knock the shit out of people who are you know usually tight ends are just a secondary they'll come over and help a left tackle out on somebody or you know they'll pick up a linebacker or something like that he's excited about it he likes to block yeah he's not he's not this isn't like he's not like gronkowski one of those guys who would just be like well i, I know I got to touch this guy for a second. And then I get to release and go catch a pass like and have some fun. This guy didn't care. He'd like to knock your teeth out and then go catch a pass in this football like that.

That's pretty good stuff. As a member of the basketball team, he was named to the all county team twice. All county. All county. So he's good at that, too. And his four years as a varsity football player he was named to the all county team the all-state team and what the hell the all-american team as well wow so yeah he's celebrated i mean good lord imagine that high school everyone would

know who he is yeah he would be he's he's the best athlete at the school like everyone knows who he is when he walks around like oh shit that's clarence he's tall he's athletic i mean he's coming he's got a good life so far this isn't too fucking bad the guy's in a locker room every day oh my god yeah and people are probably jealous of his penis as well everything is athletic and they're like ah his penis is as recognizable as his name clarence is he tied it in a knot today just for fun that's ridiculous yeah come on man to make me feel bad that's not right so uh now there's something called the shrine bowl the shrine bowl is it's a it's a like a i think it's the it's north carolina high school uh high school football team versus the south carolina high school football team i don't know if it's like state all-stars i want to say

is what i've gathered from it but it seems to be a big deal and they raise money for for the shriners hospitals okay you know they do a lot of good work with the with the hospital yeah for kids and shit like that kids yeah you know it's for the children oh what do you want for she was asking for it fuck you asking me for i don't know no literally she said will you please kiss me all right sweetheart i'm not an asshole hey you know i'm not an ass i'm a gentleman you know what i mean i got a little bit of a line in me i'll just be like come here sweetheart and i'll bend her back and i'll give her a good kiss if she wants one you know only if she wants it though you know i don't want to be accused of nothing back not forward back not forward well you know maybe later we'll talk

about that but uh she likes back we'll go forward she gotta really ask for that let's just say that she's gotta that's gotta be writing and all that very specific i need an affidavit telling me that this is all right we gotta get it notarized it's all process so maybe not tonight maybe tomorrow so the 1978 game raised 1.4 million dollars for the Shriners Hospital which is not bad however okay and this it's so weird to think about like I know there's racism in the world obviously there's a ton of it and shit like that but overt like institute overt like we just people standing around going I don't want black people playing in that game you don't hear that often now now they'll go like do a back somehow do a back channel thing to say let's make the line here

instead of there so the black people can't play it's it's more under the radar yeah then this is ridiculous and in the south to south carolina north carolina in on december 5th 1979 the durham sun wrote that they cited anonymous sources from the game, from inside the game, the people that ran it, saying that there was a lot of pressure on them. 1979, mind you, not 1929 or fucking 1839. There's pressure to keep black players out of the game. It's high school football. Who cares? Who's It's high school football. Who cares? Who's fucking playing high school football?

Whoever's good, go out there and play high school football. What are you talking about? Well, the problem is these white families want their kids to excel, too. Oh, Jesus Christ. Be better than the kid who can jump over your head, then. If not, then you can watch the game. I'm sorry. That's how it works.

Athletics should be a meritocracy here. I mean, fuck, man. Athlet. Athletics should be a meritocracy here. I mean, fuck, man. Athletics and comedy should be a meritocracy. Should be the only two meritocracies there are. Everything else, I get it. There's factors. Those two fucking meritocracies. I want to play too, James.

You can't, Jimmy. I'm sorry. You're not playing in the Shrine game. You just can't. That'll raise no money. Is it because I'm too white? And small. Not good.

Yes. The whiteness is making you not as athletic as you need to be. That's the problem. So I guess in a roundabout way, yes, it's because you're too white. I'm sorry. You can't play. It's because I'm not black enough. But the North Carolina team, 15 of the 35 players were black.

That's not even half. That's not even half. That's not even half. What are you talking about? It's still a vast majority are white kids. It seems like they're still keeping a white kid quote anyway. In the state of North Carolina? Come on. And then South Carolina has 12 of 35 kids are black. What are we even bitching about?

That's what I mean. Even if you're racist, you should be like, got them. More than half of them are white kids now. You're talking about 27 out of 70. They know that more than half the good players are probably not white kids. You're already keeping the black man down. It's not enough for you. He needs to go down further.

He's asking for it, I tell you. Jesus Christ. It's barely over a third. That's incredible. That's crazy. So there was a big kerfluffle around that they asked clarence k about it in the paper and this is clarence k in high school he says quote football gives black kids a chance to do something else besides work in a mill

that's the this is the era and the and the locale that we're talking about here it's either this or the mill this is what he's thinking the choices are to grow up. So that's a shit way to think. That's terrible. That sucks. That's your options? Either maybe millions and millions of dollars or broke as fuck forever. The mill.

There's no other. Yeah, but I mean, that's a tough way to think about it. And sling and crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot, Jimmy. That's what he's saying right there. It like in so many words yeah about 15 years earlier so uh and then in that shrine game and he played and he threw what he uh he threw a 35 yard touchdown pass so he's the tight end as a quarterback he was playing quarterback too he's just just throw him in there well whoever gets the ball most that's who he is and then he'll just do shit that's good for the team.

That's how good he is. He has everything in the world going for him. It's great for him. I can't imagine. It's like this never happened to me. What's the difference between Clarence Kaye at 18 and Jimmy Westman at 18? Oh, it's vast. I was going to say, or James Petrogallo at 18 for that matter.

It's the same exact. We're in the same place. It's fascinating because all the adults were telling him, boy, you can't play in this game. And all the kids when I was, all the parents when I was an adult were like, just try and maybe you can play anything. Maybe. Give it a shot. Something. Work harder.

Is this all you've got? Maybe not anything, but something. Right. Just try. Just keep working on it. Do it. Work on it what did nike say hey nike said to just do it so is that swaying you at all let's give it a shot and then maybe we'll up the effort people were jumping through the air as they said it as they showed the you know they're trying to slow this guy down from being as great as he is yes that's so i just can't believe in 79 they

would be like wait too many damn black kids that's insanity what what are we doing what are you talking about well there was a thing i mean that's how down south though it was so a lot of the population was was very racist back then and i remember in uh in in wrestling they talk about how uh down south bill watts had his territory and the co-owner of the territory was complaining that there's too many damn black people in the crowd except not saying black people uh in the crowd and that's i don't like that too many damn black people and blah blah blah blah blah and uh you know bill watts's response was i thought the only color we cared about here was green. Right. That's what matters. That's the idea.

Did they pay a ticket? I don't give a shit. They bought tickets. If it's all black in here, they all paid for it. I don't give a fuck who shows up as long as it's full. And they all bought tickets. What are you talking about? And that's kind of what's going on here, where it's like, well, we don't want to make those

fucking, we don't want to make those few assholes uncomfortable. It's like, why? Who cares? We don't need them. There few assholes uncomfortable. It's like, why? Who cares? We don't need them. There's plenty of other people. Fuck those people. Make them super uncomfortable. Yeah, exactly.

Until they go away. That's, yeah. Eventually they'll die off. They have to. They have to. That's the cycle of life. Is it? I think so.

I think that's what the song is about. It ends there. An Elton John boy. It ends there and then it starts again. That Elton John. He was ahead of his time. He really was the song was about. It ends there. An Elton John boy. It ends there, and then it starts again. That Elton John. He was ahead of his time. He really was. He was thinking.

He was thinking. So 1980, he graduates from Seneca, and he's got his choice of a lot of schools, obviously. He's well sought after, clearly. He's a great athlete. He decides to go to Georgia, which is a powerhouse school georgia bulldogs big time school especially down south it's uh you know it's it's it's a big deal so uh he goes to georgia 1980 and uh the quarterback on this team first of all herschel walker's on this team no kidding yeah if you don't know who herschel walker is out there he's one of the greatest athletes

who ever lived he picture yeah picture like not flashy bo jackson right kind of thing and not as good either but i mean that type of athlete just fundamentally sound an all-around great athlete that just seemed to be a natural at everything that he did he's even a good dancer i remember seeing him yeah he did ballet herschel walker that makes sense yeah he did that to keep his footwork right to go through i heard a lot of a lot of football players do that i don't think that's true i think there's only a few yeah there's only a few it's the good ones it's the ones yeah herschel was pretty good so herschel was on this team and at this time herschel was like the best player in the country yeah he was you know heismans

and herschel was the shit yeah he would go on you know play in the usfl and make the league pretty much by playing there their quarterback on on this team, this sounds, this is the most, I'm sure he's a wonderful player. And based on their season, he is a great player, but his name is Buck Baloo. Buck Baloo? I wonder what he does today. You have to play down south to be Buck Baloo and play.

His dad's a police sergeant. Oh, yeah, sergeant, big Buck. Yeah to be Buck Baloo and play. His dad's a police sergeant. Oh, yeah. Sergeant. Sergeant. Big Buck. Yeah. Big Buck Baloo. Very regimented at home.

Buck Jr. here. Yeah. Probably. He heard, if I hear another peep out of you so many times. That's it, though. No threat. No, no, no. Just that.

Yeah. It was implied. You knew what that meant. You knew you were going to get beaten with a nightstick. Yeah. And you wouldn't dare even just go peep. No. Never.

I'll treat you like a black kid trying to play football, so help me God, God damn it. I'm going to keep you at that Shriner, gang. Beat you away from the Shrine Bowl. So 1980, the old Buck Blue is nasty, apparently, because him and Herschel Walker. This is when I looked at Buck Blue's stats, and they were good but unimpressive. And I was like, yes, because they gave the ball to Herschel Walker four out of five times. You had Herschel Walker. Go, just run over everyone.

Okay, great. Oh, look, he's even faster. Awesome. He's running away now. He's just awesome. The Georgia team finishes. They go all the way to the Sugar Bowl, and they beat Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl 17-10, and they finish the season 12-0.

How about that? They have an undefeated season in his freshman year, and they finish first in the polls, and they win the national championship. No kidding. Yes. I mean, he's a national champion. This guy is just, so far, he's dipped in gold and just put out there, and every once in a while, someone just hands him a pile of money.

It's just ridiculous how lucky and great everything is for him the man wins every day yeah he doesn't even realize he just wakes up and he's like oh boy oh i'm the best waker i won i'm the best waker upper they just gave me an award for it isn't it amazing i beat that guy i didn't even know we were playing they said i'm twice as good as him isn't't that weird? They said I won the lottery today. I just have to go pick up my ticket. It's strange. I don't remember playing, but I mean, I'll take it.

What the fuck? What the fuck, man? So they do great. They're national champions. Shit, good for him, right? What the fuck? Not bad. 19, well, that season for him, he he plays in all 11 games only has four receptions

for 52 yards but he who gives the shit i mean they won the national and that's like i said herschel walker's running he's blocking for herschel walker yes if you think about it herschel walker's gonna run most of the time and then when they're throwing the receivers are gonna get the ball a little bit and they're also gonna pass to herschel out of the backfield and how often is a tight end gonna get the ball Four times for 52 yards. I didn't even think about Herschel getting screen passes. Oh, yeah, that happens, too. Yeah, he's coming out of the backfield.

This is Robin K. Herschel had great hands. Yeah. Yeah, they used to line him up as a wide receiver sometimes in the NFL and in the USFL. Robin K. have extra opportunities to catch a pass. Absolutely. I got this, Clarence. That's cool.

I got this. Hey, just go put your hands in a chest somewhere. Go wrap up this Heisman real fast. Go block for that guy. Enjoy the ring. Make sure no one hurts Buck Maloo back there. I got this. Jesus Christ.

After he declares for the draft, nobody's ever going to know his name again. No, old Bucky. He averages 13 yards per catch catch so the catches mean something averages a first down every catch here 81 he plays in 11 games he has 18 receptions so as a freshman too he wasn't playing that much so he's more in the offense 253 yards a touchdown and he averages 14.1 per catch. Now you're talking. This is good. Yeah, and college offenses back then, except for the few that had great quarterbacks, didn't really throw the ball around.

There was a lot of running and options and that sort of shit. And even when they did, there was a lot of misses. A lot of misses. Yeah, you look at their stats. These quarter, Buck Baloo's completion percentage, I think, was like 53% this year. And they won the national championship. He would be benched by the second week in the nfl just nowadays to have a 53 in the 70s though in the nfl 53 was good yeah you know look at joe namath's lifetime i think it's like 52 percent

he's in the fucking hall of fame so you go 24 for 47 you're fucking cut tomorrow tomorrow hope you rented your house here yeah sorry because you're out enjoy cincinnati so yeah it's weird though the the differences they made a rule like 77 or 78 they updated the pass interference rule in the nfl and then you saw everybody's completion percentages jump up yeah a shitload because you couldn't molest the receivers the same way that you used to so all of a sudden now fucking balls are being caught weird right yeah so uh 81 the team goes 10 and 2 they go all the way to the sugar bowl and lose to pit in the sugar bowl here 81 that is dan marino in the sugar bowl i believe yeah because 83 he came out so 81 82 yeah that's so that is losing to dan marino and pit at pit so

not a bad way to lose he lost to dan marino i mean. Not a bad way to lose. He lost to Dan Marino. I mean, what the fuck? He lost to one of the greatest quarterbacks that ever lived. What are you going to do? So 10-2. Have you seen Ace Ventura? He's amazing. You know what I'm saying?

He's pretty good. Have you seen an Isotoner commercial? It's pretty impressive. So the team ends up number five overall, which is nothing to sneeze at. That's fine. Top five overall. In the country. Out of everybody. It's incredible. That's fine. Top five overall out of everybody. It's incredible. Not too bad. There's a lot of teams.

There's a shit, 128 or some shit. Is that all? 111 and Division One. All the way to three, there's like 500 teams. Everyone's got one. I would still be shocked if that number... We have a team, Jimmy. They play in the backyard. They're practicing right now. It's weird. Everyone has a team. It's two dogs and your son.

That's it. I don't like their chances this year but i think next year they're gonna be good joey's growing so i think it's gonna be okay uh so yeah 81 though uh 10 and 2 number 5 overall 82 uh 11 games he plays in again all 11 12 receptions 175 yards two touchdowns 14.6 per catch so there's he's got a role here the team in 82 goes 11 and 1 they go all the way to the sugar bowl and they were undefeated entering the sugar bowl they were 11 and 0 and they play penn state in the sugar bowl and they're you know molesty and molesty covering the whole coaching staff there. Sandusky held them to 23 points and I'm sure molested some of their little brothers in the process as well.

Really gave them the one-two punch. God damn. The one-two sucked. Gave them the old one-two. It's a bad one-two. And they lose 27-23 to Penn State so they could have been national champions they enter the Sugar Bowl

against Penn State 11-1 three years in a row they've been in the Sugar Bowl nobody else can say that that's what I mean number four overall they finished too so that's not bad and if they won that game four more points and they would have been

national champions. 1983, he plays in 11 games, 17 receptions, 247 yards, two touchdowns, again, 14 and a half per catch. So they have a certain thing that they do with him. 83, the team goes 10-1-1. So that's a weird. It's a stinker of a season. Yeah, they go to the Cotton Bowl and play texas yeah in the

cotton bowl and they win 10 to 9 yeah which sounds boring it's game on turf in the mid 80s god 1983 yeesh that sounds not fun to watch at all i don't know if it's i don't know if which one's worse that or like uh 51 to 31 in a playoff game which one's that's exciting when it starts off 24 nothing and then somebody comes back and then it's just nothing if it was just so if it was just 51 31 all the way along that would be dull but 24 up 24 nothing and then just the stunning comeback that's a good story the 24 points was like in three minutes then the stunning comeback was like in three minutes and then it was just shocking like in three minutes. That's what I mean. And then it was just. That's shocking. Then it was just point after point after point of awfulness.

Then it's garbage. I hated it. That's some good drama. It was just in the first second. If that drama happened in the back half of the game, everyone would say it was the greatest playoff game that ever happened. It just happened in the first half of the game. Yeah, you got a point.

It's the same amount of drama. It's not their fault. That's a good point. Yeah, that's the way I looked at it. I was like, how much drama is in this? Ten to nine, I'd want to shoot myself in the mouth oh that sounds terrible imagine being in the stands for that no just a versus it's just a windy day oh the cotton ball they played in the dome i think i think it's worse if if it's three uh if it's a touchdown and then a safety rather than what

was probably three field goals that's so boring i'd rather at least see the fucking safety and in college if they made three field goals they missed four of them probably so that's how it works in college especially back then pickers that weren't a real specialty that great so it's probably what it was all about so i don't know georgia finishes number five overall though so uh uh now at georgia everything seems to be going great team's's good. There's no bad publicity. Nothing happening. But later on, we will find out that Clarence got through college while using drugs very regularly. Yeah, he'll even say that Georgia coaches knew about his habit and didn't give a shit because they were winning football games.

And what are you going to do, start telling kids not to do things? Yeah, but that's some healthy allegations. Oh, they're real good. It comes later on. But still, he says, quote, I did mess around with drugs for a short period at Georgia, some marijuana and things of that nature. He says, I think they knew, the coaches, he means, I was doing my own thing and dancing to Clarence K's beat.

He's dancing, not to his own beat, to Clarence K's beat. So right away. He has a third person. In his first quote, first adult quote, we kind of know who this motherfucker is right away. They knew I was doing my own thing and dancing to Clarence K's beat. Clarence K once told me. Right. Jesus Christ.

I do like that he said marijuana and things of that nature. And things of that nature. Expound, please, sir. Yeah. Later on, he'll get a little more into it, but he'll be more honest as time goes on. He also says it included, quote, a lot of beer, which you'd expect that for a college football player. Beer and weed? That ain't shit.

That's fine. Yeah. I mean, who gives a shit? The NFL draft comes along in 84, and he's not a hot commodity. I mean, he's kind of a tight end on a good team. It's not a real pass-happy team, so nobody really knows much about him. But they've seen him, and they see he's a good blocker. Number one overall pick, that 84 draft is weak.

83 draft is notoriously probably the best draft of all time. Elway, Marino, I mean, it's fucking endless. So many people came out of the 83 draft. It's insane. This draft is not quite that. No? The number one overall pick this year is not John Elway. No.

It's Irving Fryer. Really? He's a good receiver. He'll have his own episode, by the way. Really? Oh, he's had problems. Really? Oh, yeah.

Drugs during his career, financial shit after his career. Fun stuff. Dolphin? For a while, yes. Drugs during his career, financial shit after his career. Fun stuff. Dolphin? For a while, yes, as a matter of fact. Nailed it. Patriots, though, for the most part. Okay. I don't think I knew that.

He was in the Super Bowl against the Bears on the Patriots. I did know that. I see him there right now. I remember Nebraska he went to. But he's the number one overall pick, so that tells you. Friar's a good player. Don't get me wrong. Very solid player, but not a number one overall pick in terms of just you wouldn't look at him and go oh god the talent is just pouring out of

his hair he's not a hall of famer is he irving probably not i don't think he is no probably not carl banks in the first round no just the giants uh the other see that carl banks is a great player but he's the other outside linebacker with lt oh no number 58 so he was in the pro ball every year and shit but he's not lt i mean he's looking for that jersey bud the best defensive player of all time next to you it's kind of on the left side and you're on you're going to pay attention to me i stopped the run well everyone's like he just murdered a quarterback he snapped a quarterback's leg in half on fucking live television. You tackled a running back for a one-yard game.

58. Oh, see. 56, 58. Yeah, that's so brutal. It's tough. You see that jersey on the, and you're like, oh my God, an NL teacher. Yeah. Fucking thing.

It's, ah. God damn it. He didn't have, I loved Carl Banks, but he didn't have his own identity. Like, Harry Carson was the middle linebacker, so he was like the captain. Everybody looked at him. He was so big. He had a really strong personality, too. Like Mike Singletary, all his middle linebackers do.

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Follow Business Wars wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Yeah, this draft is just weak. I know Boomer Esiason goes in the beginning of the second round. That's the kind of draft we're talking about here. You were in the second? Top of the second round. There were some rumors about him.

There were some rumors about him. I want to say it was, was it drug use? Really? No, not drug use, because that's what they did. That's why Dan Marino dropped because team started rumors that Dan Marino. That's fucked up. He was a drug. So he dropped in the draft. Oh no.

Like a fucking stone. It's funny too. It was like the pits, like the Steelers had him like fully investigated cause he's from Pittsburgh and played at pit. So they had him like fully had like a retired Pittsburgh police detectives follow him around and work up a full report on dan marino unreal to find out and they found out that he wasn't doing coke he just he likes they said he likes the ladies and he likes to have a few beers with the guys that's what he likes you know like a guy in college who's a quarterback and fucking handsome and beloved

by everyone you know like that kind of guy right he likes to party a bit yeah it's hilarious how fast he lost his uh his guinea accent too oh yeah yeah yeah yeah see there's an interview a boomer so good there's a there's a him talking about it i like right before the draft he's got a fucking mustache number one that's darker than his hair which is hilarious slightly darker than his hair and he's got like this great like weird east coast kind of maryland baltimore accent because he played at maryland yeah he's got this weird like i don't know i mean it's like you're the blondest man ever like phil sims talks like you'd expect phil sims to talk boomer's like yeah let me tell you something these fucking guys i'm talking about dan marino oh marino too there is a pittsburgh action yeah everything was clipped and he's like i don't know i don't know Let me tell you something. These fucking guys. I'm talking about Dan Marino. Oh, Marino, too. Marino had a Pittsburgh accent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything was clipped, and he's like, I don't know. I don't know, guy. What do you think? It's a Pittsburgh Italian. Yeah, that's what I mean. His dad's a truck driver. Sure doesn't sound like it today.

No, I don't know. He's had lessons today. I'm surprised he didn't fucking lose the vowel on his name. Hi, I'm Dan Marin. Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Dan Marin. I'm Dan Marin i'm dan marin dan marin i'm going with a long a right now that's right make this sound much easier anglo definitely not a guinea my dad's not a fat truck driver with a beer belly no i swear i am daniel marin we never had pasta on sunday i don't know what it's like for the house to be smelled with just stinking like pasta like good sauce in the morning i don't know what it's like for the house to be smelled with just steak and pasta

like good sauce in the morning. I don't know what that's like. At 11, I was never drinking wine. Never. Never. No, absolutely not. Never fucking happened. Not once. Daniel Maron. Daniel Maron. Don't you know him? Daniel Maron.

Buy these isotoners. I'm Daniel Maron. Poor bastard. daniel maron buy these isotoners i'm daniel maron poor poor bastard somebody certainly got in his ear and was like they're gonna look down on you dan you can't talk like you can't talk like a fucking western pennsylvania goomba we can't have this shit do you understand he was interviewed when he was like 20 i was like who the fuck is that? Oh, God. If you see him in an interview in a documentary, he talks more like himself. He talks more like a guinea. But if he's presenting something on television, it's buy ice, a toner, gloves. It's completely different.

But if he's talking about playing football, he's like, I'm throwing it around these guys. It's totally different. It's so good. It's so guinea. I grew up, I'm i'm like that's the only guy there's my hero we have one and he's gonna wear teal that's it he's wearing teal that's okay it's fine imagine how great life was for him grew up in pittsburgh went to pitt yeah so he's never seen the sun, ever. And then he's, you're going to Miami, kid. He's probably like, fuck yeah! Chicks and cocaine and fucking boo, the beach.

This is going to be great. Your mascot's the fucking weakest mascot. I don't care! It's going to get me a part in a movie one day. Without that mascot, it wouldn't happen. So we're doing this shit. So yeah, that draft. he plays for the bears ace ventura doesn't give a fuck not happening not at all that's what i mean it isn't working they're gonna have todd blackledge be the which isn't gonna work he was the uh the

chief's choice that year in the 83 draft uh 23 overall lewis lips of pittsburgh mediocre wide receiver so i mean there's not a lot of uh not a lot of real big hall of fame names in this draft here uh the clarence here lasts all the way to round seven oh my god pick 186 denver picks him so he has no guarantee of making this team whatsoever i mean he's he is has two bad days in in training camp his ass is cut kind of a guy first l he's taken in his life yeah and it's just he hasn't been seen hasn't had that much opportunity to really show what he can do but he is drafted so that's your foot is in the door right if your foot's in the door you can't really ask for much more than that especially if you're a guy who's gifted like this guy you go

i'll make it if i can just get a chance and he does he makes the team makes the denver broncos which at the time an up-and-coming team uh you know they had new not newer ownership that was trying to take the team to the next level you had they drafted out john elway and draft him but they traded for john elway the year before so mean, they were a team on the rise. Definitely, Dan Reeves was the coach. In 1984, the Broncos go 13-3. So, huge deal for Elway. That was a big deal.

But they lose to the Steelers 24-17 in the playoffs. So, that's not great. But that's all right. It's a second-year quarterback. Oh, don't worry. You take your your alley you come back the next year mr elway there are going to be plenty more l's for you to take you're going to lose plenty of super bowls don't worry about it now clarence plays in all 16 games which is good he starts 13 games for them 16 receptions 136 yards three touchdowns as a rookie that's great not too fucking shabby not too bad i would say uh now uh 1985 broncos go 11 and 5 11 and 5 and don't make the

playoffs oh boy that kind of sucks right jesus christ that's what martin marty schottenheimer was screaming about for so many years so tough to go 11 and 5 and not make the playoffs is the biggest kick in the dick oh it is because is. To win ten games is fucking impossible. And to do it. Eleven, you can win a division. Right. Or not go at all. Or stay home. Or if you're in a bad division, you can be eight and eight and go to the playoffs, which happens too. All the time. So the 85

Broncos, by the way, Mike Shanahan's the offensive coordinator on the 85 Broncos. These 80s teams are littered with the 2000s head coaches. Bill Belichick was Bill Parcells' assistant for the Giants. This is unbelievable, though, from that long ago. That was 1985. Jesus.

So, yeah, good year, though, for Clarence. Like I said, 16 games here. 16 games started. So starts every game. He's 29 receptions, which for a tight end that's terrific uh 339 yards like i said unless you're a huge star tight end unless you're tony gonzalez or something that's terrific three or shannon sharp three touchdowns uh not bad that's uh 21.2 uh yards per game apparently so not too shabby he's doing well now uh the next year will be the

big bronco year where they go to the super bowl uh but he'll have some problems so we're going to call it grace that's it this is grace for clarence i'm going to say right here this is and you know he's he's personally this is his personal grace got it he played in a time when the tight end wasn't it was not a utilized position like it is today. Not anywhere near it. It wasn't a weaponized position. It was kind of a first down position. It was either a blocker or it was a dump underneath first down.

Three, four yards and run off seven more. Ten over the middle, take a big hit, be able to catch the ball. It was a tough guy position. Yeah, you're the last resort. Yeah, that's what it is. You're not the first option as a tight end back then. They're not looking for Antonio Gates. Right, there are no plays drawn for him.

Yeah, nowadays you'll have a fast tight end, and they literally will try to scheme so you're matched up with a linebacker and they'll send you down the field straight. Make that linebacker chase it. Just burn him with speed, whereas back then they didn you down the field straight and, you know, make that linebacker linebacker, just burn him with speed. Whereas back then they didn't do that. It was all it was more underneath and shit like that. So, yeah, good deal. Grace, though, for him.

Now, August of 1986, during the preseason. Yeah, obviously he is arrested for speeding and reckless driving in Colorado. He's got. Yeah, he's not a good driver. We're going to talk about and pretty much arrested for it. Oh, yeah. Reckless driving and speeding. He was he was acting like an asshole. He's late. He's got, yeah, he's not a good driver. No. We're going to talk about. He was arrested for it? Oh, yeah, reckless driving and speeding. He was acting like an asshole. Oh, boy.

And the other thing is, about him, he's, we'll say he's not a good driver, but it doesn't matter because pretty much from now on, he never has a license. Ever. So. This is when he loses it. Whenever he gets pulled over for the next 30 years or so it's going to be a problem pretty much always going to be an issue never fixes whenever he's he can't he's always arrested it's hard to so he's arrested for that now november of 1986 he is

suspended one game from the team for the reckless drive or not from the for the reckless driving they don't care about that. It's the 80s in the NFL. They're like, no, no, Clarence, you're fine. We bonded you out. You're good. Get to the practice facility. He was late to a couple of meetings.

There you go. And that'll get you suspended. Not being arrested. Are you kidding me? Not putting people's lives in danger. That's fine. Don't be late to the meeting. Speed, goddammit.

Drive recklessly if you have to. Put your fucking ass here. Fuck. If you'd have sped, maybe you'd have be late to the meeting speed god damn it drive recklessly if you have to your fucking ass here fuck so you'd have sped maybe you'd have made it to the other meetings you know what you're asking for right that's it so december 10th 1986 here he is in this is amazing he again driving he is uh driving to practice i assume trying not to be late right and he is in a pretty decent traffic accident on the way to on the way to the practice facility and he suffers minor hip and thigh injuries during this whole that's terrible ordeal yeah you know on the way to practice right so he's a little banged up uh now he also didn't stick around to talk to the cops for the accident because

he's late for practice. He doesn't want to get suspended. So he's also going to be charged with failure to report an accident. And guess what else? Driving without a license because it's fucking suspended from before. So it starts and this is it right here. You can picture a big boulder on a hill and someone just finally got it. Just went like when it just started going down and it's gonna fly down

the hill from now on just greased with cocaine yeah and jizz and fucking traffic tickets as far as the eye can see and the license was left at the top of the hill yeah he's like oh shit my i guess i'll get arrested every time i drive fuck it Now, officer, it's at the top of the hill. Yeah. Now, with two games left in the regular season. Now, note the date here. That's that week, December 10th, 86. December 12th, 86, he is placed on the reserve non-football related illness list. Yeah.

It's not for physical injuries. But it's funny because he'd be recovering from these physical injuries anyway for a couple weeks so rather than just let him do that they do this this is for cocaine so they're going to send him to rehab while he's injured so that tells me that someone knew about this shit and was like this is a good time for you to go to rehab right maybe we can fix this i'm sorry but that's the timing is too perfect he didn't fail a test right after he hurt himself like that's just two two days later two the timing is two and. He didn't fail a test right after he hurt himself. That's just too... Two days later? The timing is too... And the test was from a while ago.

So they were holding on to it. And they were like, yeah, we'll do it now. This will be the perfect timing. So Dan Reeves said, the head coach said, quote, of course I'm concerned about Clarence as a person. But I'm also concerned about his attitude and the effect it was having on our team. Football is like a war.

When you're in a war, you want someone beside you who can do the job. I don't think Clarence was doing the job. I feel bad. Maybe I've not done everything I could have, but all I can do is deal with it now. I feel like it got to the point where it was hurting the football team. In other words, when he was playing well and everything was fine, it's fine.

I don't care. No. My hair is silver. I'm going to take a look at it. But, you know, if he's injured anyway, I think at that point it hurts our football team. It's definitely a detriment. If he's just on the sideline doing coke off of a cheerleader's ass, we can't have that. No.

But if he's coked up and he's out there performing, that's what we need. That's fine. Let's catch him balls. Let's catch him balls. So January 8th, 1987, he's back from drug rehab. Here he does his four weeks and comes out. And just in time for playoffs. Isn't that great?

Just to play some playoffs. How convenient. Two meaningless games at the end of the season. And a really good team. It's okay. Rehab that. And then you get a bye week, too, because they're a good team. And then you're back for the playoffs.

Isn't that easy? Fucking wonderful. okay rehab that and then you get a bye week too because they're a good team and then you're back for the playoffs right easy fucking wonderful because the team goes 11 and 5 that year but they win the division and uh the first round of the playoffs they had a they did have a bye week they beat the patriots 22 to 17 the patriots had been coming off of getting the shit beaten at them by the bears the year before and uh then they play the cleveland browns in the afc championship that's the famous game right with the drive the john el browns in the afc championship that's the famous game right with the drive the john elway drive and the win at the end of the game it's a great game stanley that's stan 23 20 there is that game was it kevin mack fumble or was that the 87 oh boy i think the 80 did mack fumble set up the drive because he fumbled there inside the 10 yard line and the dronkos have to go like 93 yards back the other direction.

And then all the way to the Super Bowl where they lose to the Giants in that game. If you remember, that was a pretty crazy game here. In that game, Clarence Kay had a catch for a touchdown that they called out of bounds. Or they called it not a catch. And then they reviewed it and they called it inconclusive but everybody thinks to this day that it was a catch and he should have had a touchdown in the super bowl so what are you going to do uh that year he starts 13 games or he plays in 13 games because he was you know suspended for three of them score on the giants game uh 39 20 yeah at the half i think it was 2017 or 17 10 maybe

broncos i believe but then but then it didn't matter no you got them i mean let's just give 39-20. Yeah. At the half, I think it was 2017 or 17-10 maybe. Broncos, I believe. But then it didn't matter. No. Let's just give him the touchdown. The ball off Bavaro's hands and McConkie catches it. The Giants, that was their year. It was happening. Let's just give K that touchdown.

Let's give it to him. Because it's 39-20. Yeah, so 39-27. What does it matter? It's fine. So he has 15 receptions that year for 195 yards and one touchdown. Now, January 24th, before the Super Bowl, right before the fluff pieces come out like crazy for Clarence, he went to rehab. Yeah.

In the 80s, here's how it worked in the 80s. If you were an athlete and you did drugs, you were the devil. But if you went to rehab, that made you automatically the greatest person in the world. Remember when that was it? When if you went to rehab, as soon as you walked in, it wasn't like,

well, we'll see how he's doing in a year or six months. You walked out of the doors of rehab and everyone was like, what's it feel like to be cured? Your life is totally different now, right? And he's like, whoa, I i haven't got my car yet uh if i pass the guy who has coke on the way home we'll find out if i fucking stop but back then it was like they thought of rehab as oh he did a magical thing right isn't it amazing

it's all fixed it's all fixed now and what a brick you're so brave right that's all well you're so not you were forced to do that by your employer. Your livelihood didn't revolve. Literally relies on you going in there and pretending to do this. It's fucking crazy. Jesus Christ. Well, he talks about playing in the playoff game two weeks before this and catching a big pass and saying how great it was coming back. And we'll talk about it here. Quote, well, you know what?

Let's do an in their own words here. It's a short one, but it's pretty fucking hilarious and it needs it. So let's do in their own words. In their own words, quote, the game two weeks ago was probably the greatest day of my life. I came back to the team and I was sober. I was on a natural high. Oh, boy.

And was is italicized. So he was on a natural high. Yeah. was his italicized so he was on a natural high yeah somebody brought it up so i was crushing it he was he was crushing natural high so much better than coke oh so yeah these endorphins i'm telling you it's just you just run and then he feels it's just like if they were that good people would sell endorphins on the street corner be like hey man you give me10, I'll let you run down the street. It'd be pretty cool. I'm going to get you these endorphins. I'll time you.

I'll time you, and then you'll just, dude, it'll be good shit. So, yeah, Dan Reeves said that he's going to be starting Clarence K in the Super Bowl because he deserves it. He says, quote, Dan Reeves does, we consider our players as family and we treat them that way. What I did for Clarence is what I would do for anyone on this team. Send him to rehab and then pretend he's fine. Ignore his problem, send him to rehab

when it's convenient for us, and then pretend it's all fine. I'd do that for anyone, Jimmy. That's the kind of guy I am. Just brush it under the rug. I'll use anybody for my benefit. That's just the kind of guy i am silver as they come sir jesus christ i do it for anybody i do it for anybody i do it for anybody

on this team he means to to anybody i would just help them destroy their lives i would use them to no end to my own benefit really anybody as long as i keep my job is what I'm saying. I'd like to. I have mortgage payments, really. I just want to house the wife-wanted horses, so it's expensive. You know what I mean? Once you wanted a farm and a thing, equestrian. I can use this job and all these players as my stepping stone. I will step on every one of their fucking faces to get to my next head coaching job.

I have like a dozen South American guys I got to pay to take care of those horses. It's that expensive. So I'd do it to anyone. Oh, Dan Reeves, you dick. I'll give somebody coke if it helps. I don't care. I know a guy. Dan Reeves, I know a guy.

Hi, I'm Dan Reeves and I know a guy. I'll picture it with an old man southern accent that sounds like he's got a lozenge in his mouth. Very butterscotch in your cheek there, Dan. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's going to give you a Werther's. Now, for a guy that I loved so much as a child, it is fun to kick him right in the face. It's never good to find out what you what you know people know yeah yeah but i had no clue i thought that southern accent was

so endearing and such i was like that what i how great are how lucky those players get to hang out with him and listen to him teach them great i want a dad like that he's like you've been doing cocaine no not yet here's nope here's some here you go now get on that now he says something else here yeah clarence does which is amazing he's talking about lawrence taylor here is the lawrence he references it's so good we need a second in their own words on this we just have to have it because it's fucking ridiculous uh in their own words, quote, I can feel things changing inside of me. I'm different. I'm not saying I'm going to do the things that Lawrence does,

but I'm looking forward to seeing things change for the better. Oh. I'm different. I feel things changing inside of me, I thought is the greatest fucking line anybody's ever wrote. When did he say that?

It's in the same article, after rehab. In 86. Oh yeah, he's been out of rehab for a week and a half, so he's gonna, he's ready. He's gonna do the same things that Lawrence does. No, you know be great yeah what he does yeah is i think he means

like on the field okay like i'm not gonna be that good obviously like you know because lawrence went to rehab and he's crazy he's not saying lawrence he's not pulling out the the telling everybody that like blowing up his spot he's not ruining does everybody know that about lawrence taylor at this time in coke oh god yeah in 86 oh yeah yeah did they know oh yeah i think he got suspended and he got suspended in 87 but he was it was out there okay failed drug test yeah uh dan reeves called him quote the best blocking tight end alive clarence case that's a pretty pretty big uh pretty big deal there he's cocaine fueled dan yeah um k also says that he had spoken to lawrence taylor and discussed his problem during uh like during the game they talked about having coke

problems together what's happening man i don't know i could really use a line me too the fuck kind of conversation i'm shaking you know what i mean? I do. Yeah. I have no idea how I know what you mean. Oh, you'd have no clue. Clarence says, quote, it's like a pregnant woman has a question. She goes to another pregnant woman for advice. An addict goes to another addict for advice. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess that's the premise of having sponsors and all that shit. There's another guy that gets what you're going through. Yeah. Because I sure as shit don't get it. But I feel like these two are just going to do coke together. Right. But neither of them have done it. It's not like Taylor's been sober for 15 years

and he's going to help guide him through this. Right. They're both like, and we're not doing coke, right? Unless you got me. You got me? They're both one suggestion away from doing it. Yeah, are you holding?

Either of them are doing it. If one goes, after this little bit, I got it. But yeah, I'll help you get rid of that. That's fine. Let's take care of that. Let's get rid of that. That way we can't do it anymore i'll never buy it again you didn't do coke yet did you no not yet no taylor i forgot taylor was in rehab before the 86 season

okay and then he was suspended during the 87 season if i'm not mistaken here uh now clarence says quote it's a very long road There are a lot more hurdles to cross. He says that especially if we play the Giants again. Yeah, it's going to be really hard to not do coke with Lawrence. He's super fun. He's a fun guy. He's a lot of fun. He's got the best drugs, too.

He makes a lot of money. He's in New York. People give him, like movie stars give him good drugs. They give him better drugs than i buy that i can understand it's not available to get in colorado the cocaine that's that good he's in new york it's lighter than our mountains yeah dan rather gave him his cocaine that's how it's like it's weird it's that kind of cocaine it's like white older white journalist cocaine it's anchorman cocaine he's got walter cronkite cocaine that's good it's like white older white journalist cocaine it's anchorman cocaine he's got walter crock i go that's good it's good coke it's really good it's edward r murrow coke it's amazing that's the greatest thought ever that's so funny

here you go laurence i've procured you some cocaine. Thank you, Dan. You don't even have to do it with me. You can take it on your own. No need to hang out if you don't want to or if you have somewhere to be. I understand. And that's how the cocaine is snorted. And that's how the cocaine is snorted.

And that's how the powder crumbles that's how the rock is chopped that is how the crack rock crumbles folks i'm dan rather with cocaine for lawrence signing off that's how the line is drawn that's that's how good the cocaine is is what i'm getting at it's so good the kind he's getting worse where he's buying brown coke oh yeah now this one on the other hand clarence k is having a hard time he says that coke made him do some strange things and some bad things during his addiction he can't change what he's done but he said quote what may be obvious as abnormal behavior

to someone else is difficult to see when you're a chemically dependent person. Fair enough. He says an addict sees things that should never be seen, internal things. He says, quote, I wouldn't wish anyone that kind of luck.

It's a different world altogether. Okay. And he said he uses his friends to to help him stay off drugs and his family his loved ones he gathers them around him uh he says about dan reeves clarence does quote we have more than a player coach relationship he facilitates my cocaine use apparently dan is now just supplying him with the go we have way more than that it's a great comment he gets old white southern man cocaine. It's amazing.

Right. So more than a player-coach relationship. We have a relationship beyond football. We have a man-to-man relationship. Because Dan knows a guy. He knows a guy. Let's put it that way. You can call Dan at 1 a.m.

He's that kind of guy. Like, I don't want to, but I'll make a call. Good morning, coach. Morning, it is fucking dark outside jesus christ i'm out of coke my god already it's been two hours clarence is fine clarence i know a guy i'll get i'll call you back i'll hold on clarence said quote john elway pulled me aside on my first day back and told me he was proud of what I was doing. He said, I've gotten help.

When the story went national, I figured my career was over. A big, dark cloud hung over me. He says, I can't worry about what other people feel about me. I've got to worry about Clarence K. Now, that's what counts. That is number two, third person so far. And it gets worse. So, yeah, he says it's he's very

excited to be back uh he says i here i i think i would have drowned if i kept using is what he says here he says it was just booze and drugs and and and prostitutes and anything he'd get his hands on it was dark times he said but you know the four weeks day in the rehab center just fucking it was dark times he said but you know the four weeks stay in the rehab center just fucking reset button complete reset button here absolutely he's not he says quote i think the people around me saw saw things they didn't like in clarence k again that's how many three three i'm gonna keep a tally yeah there we go i can just do it quickly if i need to um i wasn't aware of it happening to me, the abnormal behavior, the attitude change. It's really hard to see that when you're chemically dependent. Dan sat me down and offered me every possible option.

He's like, you can keep playing, or you can keep playing, or I'll just give you more cocaine. I thought you meant like you could snort it, you could fucking shoot it, you can smoke it. If you freebase it i hear it hit you fast just gonna say that he gave me all the options he said he reassured me i could come back to the team he and i have more than a player coach relationship he says that again that has helped me through this it's difficult to find a coach who'll help a player like that wink wink yeah and then he winked and nudged the interviewer with his elbow slightly so i don't know what that means he said i'm still working on my rehabilitation.

I'm not that stable yet. It's a long process, and I'm just trying to stay sober day to day. Well, that's good here. He says that he's involved with AA, but at this point, he's not admitting that cocaine was the problem publicly, but everybody knows it, but he won't say it. It's one of those things. He's just talking about alcohol. He said, i was just a chemically dependent person yeah that includes all mind-altering

chemicals alcohol marijuana lsd cocaine in the end they all have the same effect i wasn't a druggie i never reached the point where i was trying a bunch of everything he's just saying all the drugs are the same he's not saying he did all that okay he's just saying they're all the same got it so whether you're whatever you're into that's that's that basically he says that uh i felt like my whole career was over when this came out there was no light at the end of the tunnel it took two weeks to clear that dark cloud away and start looking forward to a better life he credits dallas cowboys player thomas hollywood henderson for aiding in his recovery oh my god this is henderson is three years removed from forcibly face fucking a paraplegic teenager in a fucking sleazy motel that had already happened three years before this crediting

that man yeah because that was the bottom for thomas he had to go to jail and now he's out and helping other people that's the other thing you can't go from fucking a handicapped kid can't go from forcefully face fucking a teenage paraplegic one day to being like i've seen the light let me help you with your problems now the next day okay wow i want 20 years in that buffer zone i am shocked never fucking you know a paraplegic against their will again what where is the where is the humanity in a man when he can't why would you go james why would you ever say that man helped me what are you out of your fucking mind don't say his name fucking apparently at that that point, Thomas was working in drug rehab programs then, and he reached out to Clarence K. when he saw it.

James, I got a DUI recently, and I just want to tell you it's okay. Harvey Weinstein is helping me through it. Are you good? That's good. Helping you with your groping problem that you have? That's good. He's helping me with my drinking. You're drinking and groping, because you grope when you drink.

That's the issue here. I mean, you don't grope when you're sober doing three years after this isn't this isn't 2003 i could see that it's like well yeah he's been sober for 20 years now and he's he won the lottery i think by then thomas was doing good things building like football stadiums for kids and shit this was literally still going through the court process oh he's still got parole fucking meetings to go to every week, and he's helping people. Wow. Holy shit.

He said, though, he was worried that he would be able to return to the club in the same way. He said, anytime you're taken out of a situation, then put back in it with a label on your back, you're underconfident. I've never heard underconfident. I don't think I've ever. I've only heard of overconfident. I'm sure there is an underconfident. There's an overconfident. It's got to be.

You never hear that. Never heard it ever. That is wild. Wow. He says quote. I think the word is humble. Right? I don't fucking know.

It's not that. I know that much. It's not underconfident. It's not underconfident. I mean, like I said, I'm sure it's a word. It's got to be. But I've never heard it used before, so there's got to be something that's said for that, right?

That sounds like a guy that's reaching for a smart word yeah he's been talking to hollywood henderson and hollywood's like listen what you need is more syllables so this is what it is if you're not going to do cocaine you got to have more syllables and people believe that you're not doing cocaine keep your mouth busy it'll keep your nose from having to work that's what i'm saying well i feel like the more syllables you use to describe the fact that you're not on cocaine anymore, they think that makes you think that they're not on coke even more. You know what I mean? That's a hell of a theory.

I think it is. There's a lot of variables when you're starting the recovery rehabilitation processes. There's just a lot of variables to consider. You know what I mean? You have to think about things. You have to think about a lot of things. You have to not be underconfident. That's the problem.

Fucking ridiculous. Holy shit. He says, I know people were wondering what kind of changes I'd gone through, what kind of mental changes. I wasn't the same guy when I came out. Four weeks. That's it. He said, I'm glad my teammates accepted me back. gone through what kind of mental changes it was i wasn't the same guy when i came out four weeks that's it yeah uh he said i'm glad my teammates accepted accepted me back john elway said i'm glad to have you back uh he supported what i'd done and he was proud of what i'd done he says i'm more aware of what's going on with clarence k now that's number five four four sorry

uh their things are definitely better they've got to get better anytime you can stop using chemicals so yeah so that's four clarence k's and a uh couple at a one rehab stint that's his first rehab store clarence k's and one under confident and one under confident i love it so 1987 season comes along here and uh again he's's playing. He plays in 12 games, starts 12 games, 31 receptions, career high, 440 yards, career high, averages 14.2 per. No touchdowns that year, but still doesn't matter. He's doing pretty damn well. That's a lot of catches. He's a first down machine, this guy.

87, the Broncos go 10-4-1. That was the strike- season okay and so yeah the the regular players only played 12 games there after the you know crossing the picket line there uh the broncos go to the playoffs they uh beat the oilers 34 10 in the first round warren moon i'm sure they beat the browns 38 33 in the championship game god damn it, Cleveland had to hate John Elway. Yeah, they do. Oh, boy, do they. God, do they have to hate John Elway. It's really disgusting how much they hate John Elway.

Well, you drafted Bernie Kozar. He walks like a fuck. He has both his legs broken and uncast. What did you expect? Well, if it wasn't for John Elway going to Denver, they likely wouldn't have to play John Elway. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He would have went somewhere else. He would have went to Indy, and Indy was terrible forever. It wouldn't have to play John Elway. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He would have went somewhere else.

He would have went to Indy, and Indy was terrible for years. They would have been terrible for years. It wouldn't have mattered. They didn't care. Right. Yeah, it would have been John Elway running for his life until he was too injured to play anymore. That's how that would have worked.

And they would have loved it because it wouldn't be him beating the ever-living shit out of them every year. Every single year. Clarence is active in the playoffs. Five receptions for 95 yards and two touchdowns over the playoff run here so that's good for a tight end they go all the way to the super bowl to play the washington redskins and get trounced by them 42 to 10 doug williams that was timmy smith you know timmy smith is so ugly that year the only guy is the only had one good

game and it was whole life and it happened to be in the super bowl for fucking 197 yards or something the washington running back there so uh you know what are you gonna do though it's they lose that's their second soup but they went twice in a row not bad 1988 clarence is back talking about his uh publicly about his drug habit this is when he talks about how the georgia coaches knew what the fuck was up oh he's into this is when he starts saying oh i know what i'm you know i'm gonna tell you this for years and everybody was fine with it then now all of a sudden we got a problem that's now it's a fucking issue right uh yeah he said that about that the quotes i said before but the coaches knew and i think the coaches knew but they they knew that I was doing my own thing and dancing the Clarence Case beat.

There's that part. And then he said, quote, I didn't mislead anybody. I was pretty sure they knew something was abnormal from the things I was doing. I was late for practices and meetings quite a bit. So that's fucking, yeah. He says, quote, this is about, he said he thought that head coach Vince Dooley knew of his drug and alcohol use. He says, quote, Coach is about he said he thought that head coach Vince Dooley knew of his drug and alcohol use. He says, quote, Coach Casey told me one day, Clarence, you're a hell of a football player and a lot of things come natural to you.

But when you get off the field, you sprout horns. Wow. So, yeah, that's a yeah, that's a that's something to say. Now, the that coach Casey later on will say that he was the the paper will ask him, and he says he was unaware of the problem. He said that Clarence, quote, always looked clear, neat, and sharp. He said, would have been the last player on the team I thought would have gotten involved in drugs. Really? Is what he says.

Clarence, on the other hand, says he was consuming about eight or nine beers a night and about eight or nine gin and tonics. Oh, and? And. Not or. Not or. A 240-pound guy having eight beers after three hours of football practice, that's no big deal whatsoever. He needs those calories.

Listen, 165-pound me, eight beers isn't that big of a deal. Eight or nine beers and eight or nine gin and tonics. That's a problem. That's 16 to 18 drinks, which is a shitload for anybody. That's a lot. And depending on how strong you make those gin and tonics, that could turn into, that's a problem that's 16 to 18 drinks which is a shitload for anybody that's a lot depending on how strong you make those gin and tonics that could turn into that's a case well yeah well the the i can understand why he was drinking so much probably because he didn't feel it as much because he says he was doing cocaine quote probably five or six days a week oh boy it's a lot of coke so if you're doing that's a lot that's he wants to party he feels sober

drink all night right new coke keeps him up i mean it's fucking that's a lot that's he wants to party he feels sober drink all night right new coke keeps him up i mean it's fucking that's a crazy lifestyle i can't imagine you know i mean especially being like this athlete and it's a wild fly by it's it's crazy jimmy very crazy but not nearly as crazy as the sales jimmy the sales in january of 1988 yeah are that's the crazy part are they in denver no they're not this is these are in camden new jersey oh these uh outside of philly there Sales in January of 1988. Yeah. That's the crazy part. Are they in Denver? No, they're not. These are in Camden, New Jersey. Oh.

These are outside of Philly there across the water. So Camden, New Jersey, if you happen to be there in 1988 in January, there's some sales for you. Head on down to your local Chevy dealer where you can get a 1988 Chevy Beretta. Oh, boy. Remember those with the taillights were all across the back, all in one thing? I'm trying to think of a worse car than anything Chevy that year. I remember. With the Corsica?

They had a Corsica, too, on here. Oh, Jesus. I didn't take that one. The Beretta was cheaper. Oh, the Celebrity? Oh, the Celebrity was bad. The Chevy Celebrity. The Chevy really fucking...

It was a hunk of shit. They screwed the poops. They had Nova still in the 80s, too, and they were a dumpy little car. Oh, shit. I knew a girl in high school had a shitty, like, mid-80s Chevy celebrity. Chevy really fucking. It was a hunk of shit. They screwed the poops. They had Nova still in the 80s, too, and they were a dumpy little car. I knew a girl in high school had a shitty mid-80s Chevy Nova. It's like a two-door hatchback. Yeah, it was a tiny little piece of shit. Oh, my God. It was tiny.

It wasn't a muscle car by any stretch. It was like a compact 16-year-old girl car. It was a 86 Geo Metro is what it was. Yeah, it's just not a Geo. It was a metal Geo Metro. Well, this Beretta is a two-door coupe, blue bucket seats. Got that. Rear defogger.

That's something. Two-liter engine, four-cylinder automatic, so you know it hauls ass on a big American hunk of shit. Radial tires. Battery. I would hope so. It fucking better have one. Or I've got shit to do to this bring your own battery if you want to buy

a new car a new car hook it up to the light socket for a while what the fuck power steer that's not something you advertise uh power steering and brakes pinstripes oh that's a that's an add-on amfm stereo yeah not a cassette just amfm stereo eight thousand seven hundred eighty five dollars for a brand new car brand new that is a savings of nineteen hundred dollars it's on sale you're getting an optional discount car yeah it's a ten thousand dollar car also a 1988 chevy molester van yeah they still made those a big molester van when you think of what would come up and steal your child this thing did it have the bubble window or is this a windowless one no not a windowless one it had the it was like a bubble window on the back it was like you're either in the 70s going from town to town solving crimes or in the 80s going from town to

town fucking kids one of the two or you've got a giant talking dog as your uh as your crime crime solving sleuth well that's always helpful who doesn't want that jimmy but don't worry his appetite for giant sandwiches is unmatched oh of course it is you're gonna want to watch him eat one too so 1988 chevy molester van uh it is uh what is this front auxiliary seat i guess it's the captain chair type thing uh one one one chair one captain chair rear springs i would hope so v6 engine automatic power steering am radio not even fm in 1980 fucking they have a tape a fucking tape it's am luxury vehicle if we get out of the neighborhood we're gonna lose this station are you kidding me it's got one seat how dare you think it's got fm radio jesus christ oh no this is the one here's

a picture of it oh boy i can't wait to see this it's got nothing on the side no windows okay it's the short face it's a molester one yeah yeah it's a total molester van uh this price here you get it for 999.99 10 000 9999 You can get a big molester van. Vans were, surprisingly enough, expensive. It's a big vehicle. SUVs are expensive now. It's a lot of car. That's that market.

That's turned into SUVs. Because it was so much goddamn metal. Yeah, and people want to take their kids in and put up their stupid soccer gear. And your kids. That's it. And everybody's kids in one of those. Take their kids. Any kids who happen to be outside the elementary school just hanging around so also head over to your take their kids

i couldn't help it sorry it's fascinating that's that i'm so glad they never did that in an ad no sometimes people want to take their kids you just stop come on kids and they hop in the car you're like no ah whose kids are those please let. Come on, kids. And they hop in the car. You're like, no. Whose kids are those? Please let those be that guy's kids. So also at the old electronics store, because I love some late 80s electronics, we have a VCR, a three-beam laser. It's touting. Programmable remote.

High triple-beam pickup. It features triple- pickup ultra low distortion rugged metal chassis i'm gonna have that what is this it's a vcr okay advanced error processing circuitry and some programming shit 177 dollars rugged chassis that means like it's hard throw it down the stairs metal who it sits on your fucking tv for 30 years if you drop it nobody's ever moved their vcr until it needed repair underneath that they found their dead aunt oh that's where she went jesus yeah what the hell happened here he's certainly found a mouse under it that's 177 for a vcr and that is actually um jesus christ that's on sale from 249

for this thing uh some speakers some advent speakers are 88 each yeah they look like shit they're crap um 6.5 inch woofer so there you go 26 inch color. 26-inch color TV. Okay. $588. Wow. And that is on sale from $699. Wow. So back then, a 26-inch TV, you know, a shitty whatever fucking tube TV. With the bubble screen. Was $700.

Also 700 pounds. And 700, yeah. You can get a 70-inch HD TV for that right now. Literally. You can walk into Target and get a 70-inch TV for that price. A 27-inch TV today is like 90 bucks. If that, yeah. They're like, well, we have to.

It's the packaging and the shipping. The TV's worth nothing, obviously. But when you put it in a box, it's... It takes a lot of cardboard. You got to pay someone to take that somewhere is what I'm getting at. And then finally, a Panasonic panasonic vcr holy oh my god the first one was a beta by the way it was not a vcr it was a beta player that was a beta max wow now we got a panasonic vcr this motherfucker's not messing around it has a omni search yeah 17

times normal playback speed so you can go right through it. 21 day, eight program, electronic, digital timer and clock. $329 on sale from $399. See why Best Buy was thriving? How much that fucking product cost? So much money, these guys. And they'd have like two of them. And you'd come in and go, it's a big decision. That's what, yeah.

Because it was. This is why Best Buy crushed it. I could pay my mortgage or buy the VCR. They're the same. Friday night. No wonder that was family night renting a movie. Because it was a fucking investment. Yeah, it was a goddamn investment.

And you had to rent a movie because back then to buy one, the fucking VHS tapes were like $100 too. Couldn't get one of those either. This is crazy. It was crazy. So after that, more drug talk here. He says Clarence since the Super Bowl. He said he's been in Atlanta visiting friends from college friends and shit like that.

He says that he's enjoying himself. He says he likes being with friends. He said, though, after a while, he said that he was hanging out with his friends. And he said that he soon began to realize there was an enemy in the house. Cocaine. Yeah, there was cocaine. I smell it. People. I smell it. Who in the house. I smell it. I smell it.

Who's got cocaine? I smell it. I can see why Dan Reeves also likes him. It's in the upstairs bathroom. I'm going. He's in the basement. Under the toilet seat lid, you bastard. He smelled that from the basement.

Holding out on me. You fucking bastard. Dan Reeves also likes him because of the atlanta or the the georgia connection because georgia he's from georgia he's a georgia guy i can help this guy oh we'll talk about it later really oh he still he tries for years oh my god uh he says that k was uh the temptation got to him and he says he knew it was there he said quote i could have went on a binge so easily it wouldn't have been funny i was away from denver nobody would have known unless you got arrested for

driving or something uh he says but he didn't he says he he you know he could have done it he said it was right there he said he wanted to he was he was totally into it he said he ran out of the house to get away from it and went to a telephone where he could call people he said he talked to a couple of friends of his somebody for 15 minutes a half hour an hour and a half he just kept talking to whoever would talk to him until the panic and fate and desire were subsided and he could do that and uh he talked to somebody that he'd spent time in rehab with and he also talked to hollywood henderson at that point jesus god and he said quote k said that he didn't want to end up like hollywood henderson you know in prison for

face fucking a paraplegic you know yeah you know that whole thing of a teenager mind you underage and candy extremely vulnerable and very vulnerable yeah very uh disabled uh he doesn't he says that he hasn't had any drugs or alcohol, not even a beer since before the Super Bowl, since he went there. It's been a year, no beer, no nothing. He gets regular tests. He says, quote, I still fear relapsing

today. The guilt trip would be unbearable if I did. I think I would go completely under if I relapsed. That makes sense. He says that he was so fucked up during playing football all the time even when he was an all pro that uh you know he'd be drunk and high not on the field but just from the night before he said he was lucky he even knew his assignments because he wasn't studying as much as he should have he said he didn't really prepare

for games he just kind of showed up and you know luckily he was a tight end and what happens when every day is a win day that's it yeah you got no reason to try that's what i mean you don't have to make an effort he's like i'll just jump over it or i'll just you know play football better or basketball or do coke or coke or be better at track is yeah it's hard if life is too easy for you sometimes it is very difficult because it gets it gets harder yeah eventually everything's not so easy yeah um yeah he says uh he didn't even realize sometimes who they were playing until they got there shit like that you're like oh we're playing the chargers okay i cannot imagine that life yeah just didn't even pay attention in

practice or anything wasn't just not even doing it what the fuck yep he said i let myself get away from football i forgot what got me here he was showing up late for meetings and dropping passes um he said it was just uh uh he said elway stopped throwing to him he felt you know john elway says quote i could never depend on him i didn't know if he was going to be in the right spot i didn't know if he was going to be in the right spot. I didn't know if he was going to catch it. All this is very intricate if you're a tight end or a wide receiver. The quarterback expects you to be in a particular place

and he's throwing it well before you get there. So you have to end up there or else it doesn't work out that way. A lot of times the ball comes out before you're even looking. Oh yeah, you're running on the field and he's throwing it to your right and fucking ahead of you because that's the way you're breaking and you look up up at the last second, and the ball's in your hands. That's how the NFL works.

That's how perfectly timed everything has to be. So if one guy's just running around and not in the right spot exactly, Elway goes to throw to him, and he can't. Now he's got to look for somebody else or scramble. And you're not there to block for me. I'm going to get him hurt. Yeah, that's what it was. He says that Reeves suspected that he had a problem they said the positive urine test for him was on

december 11th which was day after his accident and day before he goes to rehab here he said that uh reeves invited him into his office yelled at him for 15 minutes and told k not to return until he cleaned up his act so he said k said he went home and got shit-faced drunk after that went home he said quote i got drunk that day drunk that night and drunk the next night that saturday night i got so blitzed heck the limo driver had to carry me into my house unbelievable that's above and beyond to carry a 240 pound man into his house and be like motherfucker i'm leaving you on the sidewalk get the fuck out i'll push you out of the car and then you can fucking find your way back to the house wow uh he says i didn't care i was into fast cars ladies and having a pocket full of money yeah i didn't like that i think that's the crime and

sports mantra quote i didn't care i was into fast cars ladies and having a pocket full of money that's quote every the last hundred and fucking 90 athletes and him what the fuck they all like it they all yeah he says uh you know drugs can happen to anybody and he said there's no certain person it can happen to rich man poor man white man black man it's something that can take takes control of you you don't control it and the more money and fame you've got the more likely you're going to get involved in something like this not necessarily have more opportunity to because people will give you things for free the biggest fear i have is going back to cocaine it was my drug of choice it's very easy to relapse it seems far behind me, yet it's right up there behind my eyes all the time.

My problems are behind me for one day, today. Tomorrow's another day. So, yeah, not bad. He does say that players have been basically supportive, except for one guy on the Patriots who likes to mock him about his drug use while they play. Who is it? He wouldn't say. He doesn't say?

He says, quote, they had this big old fat lineman. He said to me, Clarence, why don't you check yourself back into a clinic? I said, why don't you check yourself into a fat farm? He got quiet after that. Not a bad comeback. Especially if you're on a football field.

Pretty solid. You fat motherfucker. Who are you talking shit to? Eat shit, Vince Wilford. Yeah, shut up jesus christ you eat everything else yeah why not god damn it so oh boy the team that year uh goes eight and eight and they do not make the playoffs in 88 clarence though 14 games 34 receptions career high 352 yards and four touchdowns another career high so he's starting that looks like la can depend on him a little bit more 34 throws is that's a lot of catches for a tight end that's not bad now september of 1908 now we're into 1989 september 8th 1989

he is arrested for speeding in dui in color, of course, not having a license. In 89? In 89. You really got to work to get a DUI in Colorado. Well, he's pulled over by police. He was driving a 48 and a 30. So that'll get you pulled over, obviously. Not like he was driving a 38 and a 30. That'll get you questioned.

That'll get you questioned. It's in Edgewater, Colorado, here on the outer edge of Denver. He had a.83 blood alcohol level. Back then, the legal limit was 0.10 0.083 point yeah no no 0.8 yeah yeah 0.08 what i say 0.83 would be a lot you'd be dead yeah like fucking that is a drinking some bitch that's 10 times the legal limit basically yeah no uh 0.08 three is his blood alcohol limit uh now the is his blood alcohol limit? The limit back then was.10. Yeah. So he's under the limit, actually, but he fails a field sobriety test, and they take

him in for being impaired. Sure. And they think he's fucked up on other things, too. Which is probably true. They're not positive here. Now, this action starts a ball rolling with the Broncos where they start a new rule. Yeah. This is a new rule now, okay?

The K rule. This is the K rule. Rule K. Rule K. Yeah. Is if you get a one-game suspension, any Broncos player arrested on drug or alcohol-related charges, wait for it, after 1 a.m. Not at all.

After 1 a.m. After 1 a.m. We all after 1 a.m after 1 a.m we'll qualify this that's what it is literally that's the that's what he said to the press anybody gets in trouble for drugs or alcohol after 1 a.m he's in trouble 4 p.m fine let it slide you can get pulled over for having no license reckless driving while doing coke off your dashboard. No problem. I mean, technically, isn't that after 1 a.m.? Isn't everything after 1 a.m. eventually? I guess, really. Every second of the day is after 1 a.m.

It's a circular clock, man. Right. It's all circular, man. It's all after 1 a.m., bro. Fucking idiot. If they make a rule in your honor, that's not great. That's terrible. If they make a rule in your honor that's not great terrible if they make a rule yeah if it's like we need to really because of you we need to make others know that they can't

be like you being made an example for the for the rest of of everybody's benefit yeah that's crazy make sure everyone doesn't fuck up let's tell them about your fuck up yeah tell them all about it but regardless of all this he plays in 16 games starts all 16 games so far he's basically outside of his rookie season he started every game he's ever played so he is their regular so i mean every every bronco game in the 80s in the 80s they'd show the the starting lineups it's always him i've seen him i heard you hear pat summerall clarence k a tight end. That sort of thing. All 16 games, starts all 16, 21 receptions, 197 yards,

two touchdowns for Clarence in 1989. Now the Broncos that year go 11-5. They're back to being a good team. They were 8-8 the year before. They go divisional round of the playoffs. They beat the Steelers 24-23. Remember that game was a nail-biter. Then they go to the conference championship for the third year of the 80s against, guess who? Cleveland.

God, they have to hate John Elway. They do. 37-21. The Broncos win that one, too. But you know what? I'm sure they felt better the next time, next week at the super bowl when the 49ers absolutely oh boy i can't even it would be like if you if you put a professional boxer in the ring with a child yeah the result would be the same as this football game this football game is exactly what

happens when the very last place uh nfl team plays the best college team yeah this is what this is what would happen the 49ers are the worst football team and the broncos are the best college team. This is what happens. The 49ers are the worst football team and the Broncos are the best college. It is a dismantling of this place. They gave Denver so much credit this year. This is going to be the best Super Bowl ever. Worst Super Bowl.

Montana and Elway, everybody was very excited. The two marquee quarterbacks. Denver scored 10? 10. 55-10. 55-2. That's a that's a whooping that's ugly that's the third uh bronco loss of the night so there well he has more clarence k's in the third person than bronco super bowl losses so far so that's good news it's not bad it's good news or bad news for clarence yeah we know we don't have any idea here. So, yeah, he is... Jesus

Christ, man. First time I cried. That one right there. That Super Bowl? That's the one. That was a bad Super Bowl. That was real fucking... I was rooting for the Broncos hard. That sucked. That really hurt. That was a bad one. There was so much... Really just the matchup between Elway and Montana of how great

this is going to be. It was huge. This is going to be amazing to watch. Two marquee quarterbacks the only people who's amazing for were san francisco 49ers ah they must have the rest of the country was like what the fuck even they turned this shit off in the third quarter yeah they're like never mind it's over i'll see him at the parade boy oh boy jesus so it's at this point that a report comes out. And this is interesting because Clarence is going to have a lot to say about this because of a report that comes out about him. A report comes out that several high level and white quarterbacks in the NFL have tested positive for cocaine. Oh, no. Over the last few years.

And it has been pushed under the swept under the rug and kept quiet because that'll hurt the league's image. It's one thing to have some tight end nobody knows about or some running back or something, but they look at the white guy quarterback back then in the 80s as that's the face of the franchise. Still today. Yeah. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees,

if they're all caught doing coke together. Oh, yeah, forget it. But now it can be Patrick Mahomes. It can be guys like that. It's fine now because younger people are watching. It's good. But back then, it was, everybody else could be going crazy. That guy's going to come on TV.

Look at Johnny Unitas. Show what a square he is. I'm a good role model for your kids, and you come on out here. How square is Johnny Unitas? Look at that haircut. Look at his head. His head is square. That's how fucking look at that haircut his head is even his head is square that's how fucking square he is his helmet is a square yeah absolutely man so uh

he my clarence k hears about white quarterbacks testing positive for use and not being forced to undergo counseling or being subjected to a accelerated drug testing schedule. He says, quote, it hurt me to know that kind of stuff goes on. The fact that I went the whole nine yards and they did not. Didn't you forget about the Shrine game? Well, yeah, yeah. But still, he said, if you have a policy in place, it should be enforced for everybody. When I was in the clinic in Anaheim going through rehabilitation, somebody told me about the quarterbacks.

I said, don't they have to go to rehab, too? He said, no, because that would look bad. So this is he's saying that he and a lot of other black players have said for some time that they believe white players used as much cocaine as them, but are not subject to the policy as much as black players are because they're the faces of the franchise. He said that 32 of the players suspended since this is in 1990, 32 players suspended for drug use since 1988. You get suspended after your second offense.

That's your second failed drug test. 28 are black out of 32. It's like a 50-50 league at that point. So that's way out of whack test 28 or black out of 32 that's it's like a it's like a 50 50 league at that point so that's way out of whack as far as that goes just the black guys are on coke the only yeah that's it's the 80 they're all everybody's doing every white guy was on coke to keep up with the black guys there you go yeah if you gotta block lawrence taylor you better do a couple lines put it that way better get a key bumper, too. Yeah, no shit. Now, his agent said that other agencies talked to and quarterbacks themselves have confirmed this information, saying that the league has ignored positive drug tests about them.

He says, quote, one said the NFL simply, quote, forgot about it. The second said he wasn't told even about it. They just threw it out. forgot about it the second said he wasn't told even about it they just threw it out yeah uh and the third said he was quote given a pass that uh given a pass and the guy at the agent adds that a black defensive lineman might not have had no dexter manley was getting suspended for this shit at this point so uh he says it's especially annoying to him clarence does because uh there's a problem here while this is going on a confidential letter from ex-commissioner pete roselle yeah comes out the white silver-haired white man of

the silver-haired middle-aged white men uh this it addresses this here this letter is addressed to clarence k and one of it was uh it was uh the details of this are very interesting here according to this the nfl made a deal with k to stop him from discussing these test results that he's going to discuss anyway the deal uh k who had positive tested positive for drugs wouldn't be banned for life because this is his third strike if he didn't talk if he didn't talk about the uh quarterback situation this is in writing from the commissioner of the fucking league oh that's not good to have the NFL is the

biggest shadiest fucking yeah awful wannabe bracket hypocritical mafia family there is it's fucking insane that's insane there's so much over time the 40s 50s there was so much shady shit you

nobody ever heard about players were fucking gambling shaving points like crazy nobody fucking knew about it they cover it up we were talking about it before pete carroll watching him coach yesterday yeah coach everyone what a great coach oh my god he's the best coach he's a piece of shit that's funny all of his players that he helped fucking recruit you know with with usc usc i'm talking with what he gave them yeah giving away shit so they'll play on the team that he knew about all that shit they all get to lose heisman trophies everything and people call them pieces of shit p carol knew about all that shit and was authorizing and everyone's like oh great. He's going on to the next job. Great coach.

He could just get another job. And nobody cares. He hauled Dick to Seattle to get the fuck out of USC. But let's take away a trophy from Reggie Bush eight years later. Who had to put up with Kim Kardashian's shit. Yeah. He deserved a trophy just for that. The stiff arm is for her family, the rest of them.

Keep these fucking cameras out of my face god damn it with your fucking pain in the ass mother that chris jenner is the most evil woman on the planet terrible person she's she is awful she will sprout horns and a tail one day and and tell us all that she's been fucking i swear i'm not a religious man right but if if if the devil is among us and will someday make him or herself known, it's already here. It is either her or Ryan Seacrest who facilitated all that horseshit. Yeah, yeah. Fucking jerks.

Fucking jerks. So, yeah, this is a big deal here. The NFL denied this, saying, quote, no decision has been made on Clarence K's status and no deal has been made on clarence k status and no deal has been made with clarence k or his attorney uh his agent then after that has to deny the deal was made but he said that um you know k was not they told him he wasn't going to get suspended for life so he doesn't understand i guess there's not a deal but they're actually going to give us what we want it makes no sense here so yeah he uh um he is uh he's so he's arrested here or this is between his arrests and the two different suspensions for the drug program thing i guess they could give him a lifetime ban here now uh the letter from roselle warned that

k was considered to be in what's called step two of the league's three-step program. He also wrote that the handling of Kay's positive tests, the second one, was cause for concern. The letter said, from Pete Rozelle, quote, only my dissatisfaction with the administrative handling of certain matters related to your recent positive testing has led me to refrain from removing you based on that testing for a minimum of 30 days from the broncos roster a consequence normally called for in step two under the league

policy now um he said that this was k's last chance and all this uh he said that another positive even for an alcohol offense would be an all all ban here now uh jesus christ he said that the this positive test then we'll talk about what happened with that um was three months before all this happened this was in july of 88 this all happened i'm shocked result would put all that in writing yeah that's fucking ballsy that's what i mean uh i guess he says uh roselle questions the validity of some of this stuff he's saying some of it he didn't say but then the other stuff he said if it's all in the letter that you said at all either either letters not from you right or it is either it's a hundred percent bullshit or it's a hundred percent

true i wrote paragraphs one and three but it's the rest of it two and four is the fuck would that come from who said that shit that's crazy wow uh so they're saying that they're wondering if they'll even if if they do decide to do this would the chat would this test withstand legal scrutiny if it's challenged because they're saying there's questionable handling of his of his sample in july of 1988 uh they said there's claims of its incompetence against dr forrest tenant who was in the nfl drug advisor at that point he had resigned by then there uh now they established this new program uh of with toxicologists and all this type of shit and uh they're saying they're saying that they've established a new program in 89 so all the positive tests from before shouldn't count we should start with a clean slate that's what the players union saying and the nfl is not saying that now uh according to this the new things they put in

in 89 were to to make the the procedure standardized uniform uniform here yeah like the rest of the league so uh according to this uh k's 1988 july 1988 specimen was held for 12 days before being screened at the laboratory. I don't know if that changes. I don't know if that adds cocaine to your urine or not. But at minimum, you'd think it would just dissipate. I don't know. He said that time lapse could could affect the results. Accuracy is what the doctor here says.

I'm not in. This is Kay's agent here. I'm not in a position to make a determination on the ramifications of what any test of what any test should be but if this information proves to be accurate it would concern me i would say so uh they end up not suspending him for life so i would say what he's saying is true because that's what ended up happening they can deny it all they want well then why didn't they suspend him for life? Oh, my God, he won again. So he won again. Oh, boy.

He's back. And, well, he's going to lose now, though. June of 1990, he is convicted for drunk driving from last year there. And July of 1990, oh, boy, he is arrested for... The charge ends up being way less than what it was. The charge ends up being disturbing the peace in the end. That's what he's going to end up pleading to. But, wow.

What was the charge? He broke into his girlfriend's apartment. Oh, you dick. Let's get into this. July 31st, 1990. So, day after his birthday, too. He's feeling, you know. He broke down the door of his ex-girlfriend's apartment.

You can't do that. Right away. Yeah. If you have to bash your way into a house, you're not wanted there. Right. So he breaks down the door, probably not difficult for a big guy like that,

and gets into a shouting match with her, obviously. Get out. No. Get out. Yeah. No. I had my door closed for a reason. Well, I can get through it.

I don't know. He's arrested originally for disturbing the peace, trespassing and destruction of private property because he also broke a window because he was mad. He's booked into Denver City Jail. And this is the problem here is he's he's scheduled to appear before a judge the next day. No earlier than 830 a.m. That'll be the first time he can get to see a judge. But the Broncos have a plane chartered leaving for Japan to go play a preseason game at 10 a.m. So there's no way he can get court and back to the plane in time.

OK, now the Denver deputy sheriff says, quote, he's not allowed to bond until he sees a judge. And that won't be till today. And they're like, so he ain't going to be playing in the fucking game is what they're saying. Now, he's also facing a lifetime suspension for driving while impaired. After all this shit, not great. But actually, what ends up happening would end up. Here's what ended up happening from it, first of all. He broke in.

This is his ex-girlfriend, Patricia Spillman. She'll come up again. He's arrested for breaking into her home. They end up letting him bond out after only five hours so he can make the team plain. Oh, those bastards. That is not standard procedure. They wouldn't let you do that if you had an appointment at all. Standard procedure.

They wouldn't let you do that if you had an appointment at all. So domestic violence charges in Denver call for overnight jail stay while he awaits the next day's hearing. That's the standard thing. The Denver prosecutor said, quote, we were livid. No shit. I guess so here. He was given a deferred judgment and that he ends up getting no jail time for that. None.

None. Deferred judgment. Breaking a woman's door down. It's fine. Not even in a relationship with her ex-girlfriend. It's fine. Wow. That's fine.

That's perfectly all right. He went and had a couple catches in Tokyo, so don't worry about it. It was a nice night. I wanted her door open. I said, you know what? You need a screen door. Right. Let me kick this one off its hinges and then we'll figure it out from there.

Wow. So his, his personal life has fallen apart. He says it's at this point that he begins to drink heavily again and all this type of shit. He says, quote, it really pushed me to start contemplating silly things of doing things I knew eventually would cause consequences that were not going to be real nice.

He says it was temptation of going back to 1986, drinking and drugging. All the pressures were there that could have made me do those things. I started drinking quite a bit for a while. It seemed like there was four walls around me. Usually there is if you're in a room. Anytime you're in a house, you're going to have that. Yeah. You look around.

You've got four of them here. That's a three and you got an issue seems like there was four one way out seems like there's always a roof over my head it's just weird every time i'm indoors there's a roof i don't understand it and a floor under my feet uh looks like seemed like there was four walls around me going around in circles every wall i looked at there was something that reminded me of what I didn't want. Whoa. Huh? Whoa.

Oh, my God. Let's break that down. It seemed like there was four walls around me going around in circles. Now, is he going around in circles or the wall is going around in circles? Is the room spinning? You're drunk, sir. That's what that is. Stop driving. Stop drinking and driving.

That's what that is. Get out of the car. Okay. Every wall I looked at, there was something that reminded me of what I didn't want. So there's four walls. Let's call one of them booze, one of them coke, one of them whatever the fuck. One of them early retirement. One of them driving badly.

Right. And they're spinning around them, apparently. You have to pick one quickly, like a game show. Like Mario, what is it? The Mario game? Yeah a you have to pick one quickly like a game show like mario uh what is the mario game yeah we have to pick hey three mushrooms okay there we go so he says uh there was nothing there that i could really pull out and be happy with he also said he uh he felt anger that he was arrested in edgewater for drinking and driving because he says he had hardly even been drinking that day i had hardly been drinking at all i barely drank anything so ridiculous 0.8 0.08 0.83 0.083 so that's good that's enough it's enough you guys today it's

drunk today it's dy done that's it you're out so he ends up having a meeting with the commissioner now this is not pete roselle he's gone this is paul tagliabue so he's trying to smooth this all over here uh it's possible that that anything he's been doing could be construed as a third offense and he could get a lifetime ban he says quote i wasn't afraid of going before the commissioner i was afraid of the unknown which is the same exact thing i wasn't afraid of going before him i was afraid of what he could do to me right yeah you weren't afraid of paul tagliabue physically no he's like a five foot seven fucking accountant looking guy i'm sure who looks like he tells his ass his wife will you please suck my penis yeah please and then he tells her why he deserves

it and why he thinks i did a lot today. I cleaned the garage. I did this. He's got a lot of things to talk about. It would feel really good to me. And, you know, I might come. You were asking for it. Ah, Jesus. He said, my agent, Bruce Brown, and I studied what extent he could punish me.

And yet the commissioner reserved the right to do what he wanted. That was the fear for me. So he flew to york and he met with tagliabue and uh he said he felt fine until he checked into his hotel room when he got there and then he realized that his football career might be over he said that whole night was hell for me this is the first time you thought about it i think the second you're getting pulled over and arrested, you're like, oh, shit, I could lose my job for this shit. The first time. Yeah. He says, quote, I've been dealt a hand that makes me look at my life and my personal problems in public.

But some people never get to look at their problems and they never get to understand why things happen the way they do. The most I can ask is that people be understanding. I can't demand it. That's all reasonable. That's all very reasonable. September 1990, the NFL makes a deal with Clarence here that he he he's it is a deal where he's just going to shut the fuck up about everything. And they're not going to bar and ban him for life. Basically, he did an on camera interview saying the drug deal cover up in the end that's what

they end up doing exactly what the letter was so he ends up you know covering it up basically the league lets him cover it up and then they don't have to worry about option three yeah it takes option three so 1990 denver broncos 16 games he starts 14 29 receptions 282 yards no touchdowns the broncos are 5 and 11 that year this is the beginning of the god-awful broncos elway would get hurt a bunch this is bad news they draft tommy maddox in 92 it's not good it was uh jesus was uh brister no brister after he was in pittsburgh after it was all over. Yeah, this is the Tommy Maddox first round draft. Like, here's how he's the heir apparent. Right.

Nope, he's terrible. Yeah, he's going to be about 10 years before he's a starter. You're going to have to trade him and he'll stink there, too. He's going to have to go to the XFL and win a title. That's what he did. So 1991 comes around. April 2nd, 1991. Guess what?

He's arrested. He is pulled over on Aprilil 2nd yeah just stopped driving yeah unsuspected of drunk driving oh boy so this this also could get him banned from the league the uh blood alcohol level was measured at 093 okay 093 we're getting closer still 0.10 but they still said he was fucked up and he's charged with driving with ability impaired. And there's that. So that's the second arrest for that in the last year. He said that the NFL said at this point that they said last year their excuse for not punishing him, not because he didn't talk.

They said because he wasn't legally intoxicated. He got convicted of it. So he was legally intoxicated, but he wasn't at the limit so they said he was being responsible this guy so he thinks they're going to do the same thing with with this here because he's not he's not totally there uh so uh the one of the nfl spokesman said quote there's no current plans to take disciplinary action against clarence k at this time okay uh the owner pat bolin of the broncos said i think the whole intention is to say look clarence K at this time. Okay. The owner, Pat Bolin of the Broncos, said, I think the whole intention is to say, look, Clarence has got an alcohol problem. He hasn't done anything the league feels he should be suspended for, any punitive measures,

but they think he should receive treatment. Well, no fucking shit. Oh, Pat. Oh, Jesus Christ. God damn it, Pat. Come on, Pat. Jesus Christ. Would you give a shit?

No, absolutely not. I got a lot of other stuff going on. Pat's got billions of dollars. He doesn't have time for this shit. Rest in peace, Pat. Jesus Christ. Would you give a shit? No, absolutely not. I got a lot of other stuff going on. Pat's got billions of dollars. He doesn't have time for this shit. Rest in peace, Pat. Yeah. So he has to go to weekly counseling sessions as well as two times a week drug tests since the last conviction last year of DWAI.

And Bolin said he spoke with Paul Tagliabue, the commissioner, recently. And they talked about it. And Tagliabue agrees that they just need to get him help. So silver as they come. Don't worry. We're about to draft Shannon Sharp. This is almost over. It's fine.

He's coming real soon. Don't worry about it here. Now this comes. He again gets arrested here. It's about 2 a.m uh he he stopped this is amazing he stopped to offer uh to drive home a female acquaintance who had been stopped by aurora police for making an illegal turn and was later charged with duI. So, this is fucking amazing. He sees his friend, some woman, on the side of the road getting pulled over. Pulled over by the cops.

So, he pulls in to be Mr. Fucking Hero. And he goes, yo, I'll just drive her home. It's cool. I know she's drunk. Rather than arrest her, just let me drive her home. Oh, boy. The cops go, you smell pretty fucking drunk. I smell liquor.

On your breath, you're going to do a sobriety test here uh and he was like no no no i'm just here to pick her up and they're like cool do a sobriety test and we'll do that like i gotta go and they go you've been drinking tonight and he goes i only had a couple beers which means i had a bunch of beers means as drunk as you think i am that's exactly how how drunk I am. That's how many beers I had. A bunch of them. I got pulled over once for DUI. I didn't get a DUI. But the cop goes, you been drinking?

And I go, I had a couple of beers. And he goes, I pulled over a lot of people. And I, do you know how many people told me they had a couple of beers? All of them. Exactly what he said. I figured out from. He goes, I go, I don't know. He goes, all of them.

All of them. Okay. I've got the code, by the way. This is the code from watching Live PD. He looked me right in the face and goes, all of them. People tip their hand. Yeah. Because look at it this way.

Because they're trying to be like honest sort of to look honest enough to get away with it so here's the deal if you've had no alcohol at all you just go no i haven't had anything right if you've actually had like one beer or two beers but it was like over the course of three hours and you know you're one thousand percent like not even right not even a question you've been sober for 45 minutes you're one thousand percent sober but you know you've had a beer that night so you don't want to say in case you can smell you don't say no so you go i've had a beer yeah that means you're not drunk if you've had a beer that means you have drank but you're gonna blow like a 0.25 or something

it's fine when you say i've had two beers that means you're legally drunk but not shit-faced you don't think you're drunk but you know you're gonna blow a point you know this is about to be a bad night you know you're going to jail but you're not shit-faced like no one would look at you and go man that guy's hammered not at all you're just too drunk to drive when you're so drunk you can't stand up that's three beers no one ever says more than three but i literally see them fall down trying to do a sobriety test and go i had three beers and what three seven pills three is too many right to drive and you know that so you're admitting that but you're not admitting you have 14 beers it's just three but that means you're

watch live pd that's the code three years what's a couple when they go out that's two that's two okay you're legally drunk yeah and you know a couple you're legally drunk but you're not like i'm not i'm not trash how stupid are you to get in the fucking car dude i'm not getting an extreme do you i'm certainly going to jail do you even know what town you're in? That's the guys people have three beers. When I told them I had a couple, I was just rattled because I made a U-turn in a perfectly legal spot, but I almost hit a curb, so I backed up. Oh, no. So I made a three-point turn.

Yeah, that's not good. That looks bad. That looks drunk. That looks drunk. So then I started going the other way because people call me. They're like, bro, we're going to this other house. I'm like, cool, I'm coming. I tried to make the U-turn, didn't make the U-turn right.

So I made the three point and then I saw lights. I go, I'm going to be late. Got to go. Got to go now. And then the cop comes out the window and goes, how many you had? And I was like, a couple. And he goes, I pulled over a lot of people. He said that.

And I was like, how many? But you were really. And I literally had two beers. So I said a couple because that's what two is no so he pulled me out of the truck i didn't feel sobriety i passed great because i was fucking sober yeah i knew it you knew it yeah but saying a couple yeah but he was like fuck out dude get out i mean get out of the truck i don't mean to get the fuck out of here breathalyzer wise yeah would have been a close call right i crushed it yeah i did great jesus christ but i

was rattled yeah this particular incident this is a bad he stops it's not even hit he's not even involved in this he you don't even have a driver's license don't stop to try to rescue someone you don't pick up chicks call you tomorrow call me when you bond out i don't know what to tell you try to pick up chicks at the police station. Yeah. Or in the DUI line. No. Well, he's doing it now.

So he says he's got a couple beers. They do a test. Guess what? He's had more than a couple beers, and he's going to get arrested for this. Did he fall down? No, no. See? He was just drunk enough to get arrested, but not shit-faced.

That's what happened. Dan Reeves calls the incident, quote, an unfortunate thing that happened and how serious the league is going to deal with it. I don't know. Yeah, it's fine with me. It's up to them,

but it's up to them. I know a guy. He wouldn't comment on it. He says, quote, my disappointment is, this is Dan Reeves, first,

that he was even in a nightclub and second, that he'd been drinking. Yeah. He said, why did he go there? Why is there always the temptation to drink and why did he go there why is there always the temptation to drink and why did he have to take a drink it's called he's a fucking addict dan

jesus christ uh reeves said that he's subjected to urinalysis twice a week and also undergoes twice a week counseling he said quote there's the after he's after k went to last summer he said that reeves said he's reformed he said there's been a tremendous change in clarence last season and during this off season for whatever reason he got himself uh in a situation monday night i won't try to make a decision too hastily or try to cover it up he's ordered to rehab by the broncos yeah he's just it's he'll be okay how hot was she you know what i mean how much did he want to plow her yeah that's what it's he'll be okay how hot was she you know what i mean how much did he want to plow her yeah that's what it is how much how bad was he trying or how drunk was he which one

is it a combination of the two she's kind of hot he's kind of drunk what's the he's super horny she's a little hot and he's drunk which one there's a what's the gap between hard dick and and b.a.c that's what i'm saying there's not very long gap there his dick is probably bigger yeah it makes up a longer probably a little bit harder than the bac you could use as a bridge to get between those two things walk back and forth across that's that formula that's the formula so uh yeah he says that uh basically dan Reeves, the NFL's new substance abuse policy, he says, is vague and it removes enforcement powers from the team. He doesn't like that. Dan Reeves says, all I'm saying is the league takes some of the implementation that we had in the past out of the drug program.

That's because you didn't do it right, dummy. Fucking look at what happens. The team, when they were doing that, everyone was just doing what they wanted here. me fucking look at what happens the team when they were doing that everyone was just doing what they wanted here uh reeves said his biggest beef with the program is that alcohol is looked at differently than an illicit substance such as cocaine marijuana or pcp um because it is different in society well fucking one's legal and one's not especially in the 80s one is not only legal one is a huge sponsor of your fucking job huge sponsor king of fucking beers every commercial break they're going to tell you about one of those go look at the bud

weiser halftime show you fucking idiot you mentioned four things alcohol cocaine marijuana pcp every commercial break guaranteed there'll be a commercial for one of those things and i'll tell you which one it is every time there There's never a PCP ad. No one's sitting around going, that new PCP looks good. I mean, I want to get hit in the head with a nightstick and keep coming. That looks like a...

Jesus Christ. Oh, Dan. But Dan says, whether you like it or not, alcohol is a drug. But as far as enforcement in the NFL, it's treated differently. Dan has been wrong about everything.

I know that technically alcohol is a drug, but everything he says is wrong and tone deaf and dumb. Do you understand why Denver lost Super Bowls until he left? Yeah. Wrong, tone deaf, or dumb. Which one is Dan Reeves through this whole episode? I don't know which one it is.

He's all of them. He's a little bit country. He's a little bit rock and roll at this point. I don't fucking know. He's a little everything. I don't know what's going on here. Getting there to sing Rhinestoneestone cowboy with the electric guitar do it god damn unbelievable so 1991 he uh is he has plays in 16 games though that year i didn't give his stats before 11 catches 139 yards 1992 is the year they draft quote Elway's replacement. It never really pans out here. 92, he plays in all 16 games.

Clarence does. Starts 13 of the games. Only has seven receptions for 56 yards. Not great. He hasn't had a touchdown since 1989, which is also not terrific either. They should have started looking for John Elway's replacement right about now, too, because when he did leave he left them high and dry well Christ that would have been a guy would have been in the league eight years by

the time he left but when he left that's when they got that's when we got dealt bubby fucking yeah because they had no Brian Greasy yeah Brian it was ugly it was ugly for fuck eight years those teams are ugly Jesus Giants are still looking for a quarterback since Phil Sims. I know that Eli won a couple in breaking balls. So February 10th, 1993, his girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, Patricia Spillman, the one before he knocked her door down. She gets a restraining order on him because he's got some problems here. On that day, she called police to report that, well, okay uh he is harassing her is what she says now later on in a police report she will write this quote i've had multiple bruises and cracked ribs i'm terrified of him last week he climbed into my interior patio and refused to leave for three

and a half hours what what that is crazy like a like one of those closed in yeah like i guess like three hours my interior patio and refused to leave i get yeah one of the maybe a screened in porch yeah that sort of thing uh forcing me to hide in my basement oh my god in fear of this man uh he has climbed to my top level balcony many times he he's scaling scaling houses that's fucking nuts quote and this is one that comes up uh quote once punching me in the face while i was asleep wow he broke into her house went to her bedroom went in her bedroom and punched her in her face while she was asleep and then ran away horrifying that's the kind of person we're dealing with where are the police uh quote this has been going on for six years what

the fuck he thinks he owns me so all of this is going on at the same time that he's mr hero for going to rehab and then he's a drug addict and he's a drunk and then he's this and he's that this has been going on he's in and out of her house like rehab like rehab yeah only rehab now this particular incident on the 10th of fe, Clarence K. told his probation officers that he merely, quote, tried to restrain Spillman. For what? He said that she said he was she was punching and scratching at him. So he had to restrain her is what he said.

So he roughed her up. You shouldn't be there. You're not right. She didn't invite you over. You broke into someone's house. So guess what? They can punch and scratch all they fucking want. So she ends up, she gets a temporary restraining order that directs him not to contact her.

That was before, but he did anyway. That was this time in February. He's going to plead no contest of violating that order. He's going to be placed on probation again. So, yeah, he this is what he also did here uh jesus christ he uh wow he waited for her to get back home with her date this is what this was the three and a half hour thing he waited there for her she got back home with a date then they saw he was there so they drove away so then he followed them away and ran them off the road with his car.

That's another incident that happened right before this and she didn't report that and then she reported this. Oh, boy. He finally left that night when she threatened to call police.

He ran you off the fucking road in a car. He could have killed you. Why is that a threat? Just call police. She said, if you don't leave me alone, I'm going to call the cops.

Then he left. How about the cops are on the way? They'll be here very soon. What the fuck? You're going to jail. You aren't even supposed to be driving, you dick. Not at all. Especially not people off the fucking road.

Jesus Christ. Then a week later, a week later, he's arrested again for violating a restraining order. The same one on Patricia Spellman. He allegedly phoned her and sent her a fax asking for a meeting. Okay. He did that. Very formal. He sent a fax.

He sent a fax over. I'd like to meet, please. That's how he gets coke from Dan Rather, too. He sends him a fax. It's very formal. Send it back, please. Send check yes or no like he's in the second grade. It's very formal.

Send it back. Please. Send check yes or no like he's in the second grade. He sends Dan rather like a menu. Yeah. With different ounces. Check. Yeah. It's a Chinese menu.

I'll have the number 47. The 47. You know what that means? I will have two of those, please. The code. Yeah. So here, he sent her a fax. He phoned her.

Both of those violating the order. She didn't respond. So he said, I'll just go over. I'll just go over there, because obviously I should go over there. So he goes over there, and she's not there, but neighbors see him and shit like that. So then he goes back to his house, where police come for him, because he's not allowed to do any of this. So he barricades himself in his home oh boy for the police this is bad and ends up jumping from a second story window yeah and

running away he made it he made it didn't hurt himself he pulled an eddie johnson yeah uh ran out of jump out of the window like fucking superman didn't like climb down he had to like jump out of the window ran away and eluded officers for an hour while they chased him around he ran around eluding them for a fucking hour until he finally turned himself in they didn't even catch him too tired yeah he was like this is rough out here i have coke out here and what am i supposed to do right live in the woods now now i live in the woods much better tender. Denver's much colder than I remember. I'm outdoors now.

It's no good. So he's, I mean, Jesus Christ. He's done so many things. That's amazing, though, jumping out of a second floor. Water athletes, they jump out of things, off of balconies, out of... He goes up and he comes down. Yeah, he's doing a Jim Neidhardt here, except without the... He's still clearly athletic.

Oh, he's very athletic. That's my point. If if he didn't fuck up he could still be doing great the man's 32 years old and he's leaping out of fuck it's i mean it's not like he's he's not 50 no he's very athletic he could still play i don't know if that if that was part of the game he'd be he'd excel at it so february 24th 1993 he asks for his release from the broncos. He says, I got to get out of here. He's had enough. He's had enough, which is amazing here. Doing all this coke here. Yeah. I got to get out of here. The team said, quote, Clarence was worried about us starting new and having all the same haunting stories.

I think this is the best for all sides. It took a big man to even think about what he did, but that's the way Clarence wanted to go out. Basically, it's a totally new team. Their elway was always banged up they had tommy maddox they were going to try to be a running team for a couple years and unsuccessfully so they told him basically you're not going to have a role we're going to be a running team now it's over they're not catching any passes and so he asked for his release 1992 he made 565 000 bucks that's not that year not bad uh now his agent said he wants to continue to play but he couldn't continue to play in denver his agent said quote clarence

figures he has one of one or two years of uh left to play uh with all that's going on in denver he figured he would do it in a fresh place with a fresh atmosphere so he's going to be a a uh a unrestricted free agent july of 1993 who signs him uh-huh the browns oh shit what coach yeah that's bill belichick no kidding bill belichick to this day you always wonder you see bill belichick every fuck up that gets released every antonio brown every whatever that's got a bad reputation bill belichick has signed every single one of those guys everybody who has a bad rep he's like we'll try to all the way back to then he's got that whole i can fix you thing he signed clarence it's i don't care what you do if you can just play straight for the few months the seasons here we'll do well and then i can pretend like i never know

you yeah well he's yeah he's just i'm gonna extract the football out of you he teaches girls that you can fix problem you can see well you can't because he ends up releasing all of them because you can't fix people he breaks up with them eventually yeah absolutely it doesn't work out very often here uh he ends up uh bill belichick people rip the shit out of him for this by the way like yeah in cleveland they're like why are you fucking right a he's a hated bronco yeah and this time here and b're like, why are you fucking... A, he's a hated Bronco in this time period. And B, it's like, why are you getting him?

He's just been arrested constantly. He's been beating women up and punching people while they sleep. Cocaine. Don't you remember with Stanley? Yeah, we'd like our roads

to be safe, please. We don't want him on them. They're icy and potholed and shitty up here. We don't need him on yeah i've seen the ohio roads so he's he ends up not making the team at a training camp he ends up getting cut he didn't make cleveland doesn't make cleveland no he's done that's it for clarence uh he's going

to be done in the nfl uh 135 games played 193 receptions6 yards, and 13 touchdowns career. That's awesome. Yeah, great career. I'd love to have that career. But for him, he's done. Nobody wants him anymore. Now what does he do? Wander the streets of Cleveland. Oh, boy.

Which we've been to Cleveland. He's like, what is that, exhaust or jizz, or both? I smell burning jizz. Do you smell burning jizz? Is that garbage? What is that? No, it's definitely a bodily fluid of some kind. But it's like it's been set on fire.

Is it a captive woman in a man's basement? Possibly. That mixed with, I feel like they set a dead man on fire. It's dead man's jizz. That's what it is. And women in basements mixed together. And abortion of captor. And river and lake.

No good. Flammable water water he has nowhere to go nothing to do he's trying not to drink he's trying not to do coke but now he's been released from the team what's the difference yeah but before he does any of that he's a big guy he's very hungry and he smells something delicious and he opens the door to a shop and it's's the shawarma man. Oh, my goodness. The shawarma man's there. And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here? Why are you here? Why are you come? You perfect man.

Big, strong. I five foot six. I weigh 240 pounds to five foot six. I know run and jump off things. I fall out of window. Second floor break every bone in legs. You you do the do you have, you hold?

Nope, nope. Schwarm and man have problem but I'm okay now. No. You go. Sign say closed. I have restraining order against you now. Restraining order. Go now. You go. Sign say closed. Okay, fine. I make for you. But you brink okay next time. We go. say closed okay fine i make for you but you bring cocaine next time we go come here come here come in here poof yeah and it's gone and in a poof of

of shawarma and taziki uh he's gone clarence is very confused sure he definitely thinks he's high yeah or he needs to get high one of the two is taziki is that liquid cocaine is that what that is it's white i'll try fuck sept 1993, he's got a new girlfriend. Yeah. New lady in town here. The girlfriend named Jennifer. She stands by him through all this shit until September 1993 when they're in Las Vegas. And he is upset because someone sent her flowers.

Oh. So. What the fuck is this? Rather than ask who this gentleman might be, sending flowers, discuss it in a calm fashion. Maybe she didn't ask for these flowers. She wasn't asking for it. Instead, Kay pushes Jennifer down,

then kicks her in the back, and as if that's not enough, he then drags her to the edge of a 20th story balcony. Oh my God, no. And punches her in the edge of a 20th story balcony. Oh, my God. No. And punches her in the face with this right hand, which is his strong hand. Basically takes her to the edge of the balcony and begins pummeling her face with his fist. Oh, my God.

Yeah. She says, quote, I was trying to defend myself, but there is not much you can do. I'm 110 pounds. He is 230 something pounds. He has a 110 pound girlfriend that he's beating the shit out of. That he's dragging around a hotel. For getting a gift. For someone sending her flowers.

Oh boy. This is very disturbing behavior. This is unbelievable behavior. This is not okay. No. So one of her coworkers, she works at a Denver auto dealership. One of her coworkers told reporters, quote quote i've seen her come in beaten and bruised and bruised i've seen him pick her up outside the dealership and try to carry her off

i confronted him when he was doing that i said put her down and get out and he did this has been going on for a year and a half so he beat this one up for six years and then she's finally too many restraining orders she's got to find another one to beat the shit out of this poor girl fucking unreal so that's september of 1993 february of 94 uh he pleads no contest to violating that restraining order because he then goes back to her he's placed on probation uh now later on in 1994 he's arrested again for violating jennifer's restraining order for catching her uh outside of a dry cleaner catch me outside uh she he did and he took 700 worth of clothes that she took from the dry cleaner and threw them in a dumpster why would you do that took her clothes out of her hand

and threw him in a dumpster he's just like he's a bully yeah that's the yeah he's like a second grade bully yeah he like popped up she was walking he's like got he's a bully yeah that's the yeah he's like a second grade bully he like popped up she was walking he's like got your clothes right threw him in the dumpster and gave her a rip down right what the fuck is going on walked off yeah this is ridiculous and told her her mom was fat like what and took her bike and rode home yeah ha ha jesus christ yeah he's an asshole oh he's an asshole uh november 1995 uh he's violated again the restraining order and after violating the restraining order number of times he finally pleads guilty to an actual charge here and holy shit he's sentenced to something oh boy you sir

yeah they fuck off four months in jail oh boy what for via repeatedly violating the restraining so jen's got four months of peace by the way this is while the oj trial's going on like athletes who repeatedly go to these women and beat the shit out of them should have been in people's fucking psyches and on their minds right he might kill her he's real aggressive should be right in the forefront yeah and oj wasn't a fucking alcoholic or a drug addict and he did coke and he fucking did... He was just an asshole. And he drank, but he wasn't like this. He wasn't really into it. He was a party guy. Now, August 9th, 1996.

He's out. Freedom is good. He's arrested again, though, here. He's arrested, this time, for the attempted murder of a paramedic. What? How did he get there? Well, let's find out. Apparently, Jesus Christ. murder of a paramedic what how do you get there uh well let's find out yeah uh apparently uh jesus christ the the guy the paramedic uh i guess surprised this person i guess the guy

called the paramedic somebody called the paramedics yeah somebody called the paramedics to to to a location okay this guy shows up and the and whoever the guy was who he was treating they they're charging it's clarence k as they arrest said that this man that clarence k stabbed the paramedic as he tried to help him so clarence had uh uh some sort of a uh something event where people called paramedics for his assistance yes and when they showed up to try to help him he stabbed him stabbed him through his bulletproof vest. Wow, that's a stab. That's a good stab.

Yeah. Yeah. Now, Kay's lawyers say they have the wrong man. Okay. Okay. Now, hear it out, though. This is one time he's actually right in the entire story. His lawyer and he, they go to court.

The woman is Linda Cobb, who's a nurse that says she says that she'll testify that Kay was sound asleep on the couch in her home that whole morning and was nowhere near where they said he was because she was there with him. Police obtained an arrest warrant for him after the man, the nurse at the paramedic, picks him out of a lineup of six photographs okay okay now we have to say something about this here uh uh now the the police officer said uh i'm sorry the uh the paramedic said quote from what i've seen thus far i cannot say one way or another 100 who is the person who stabbed me he made the id but it's not a positive identification this goes to if you read the david simon homicide book this is statistics this is they've studied this for decades um the worst identifications are different race on different race black on white white on black do not identify people say oh they white black people say white

people think they all look alike. Well, guess what? Fucking black people think all white people look alike, too. They can't identify them. It's the same thing. It's just not what you're used to seeing. So it's a whatever. They explain the psychology of it, of your brain and how it works.

Yeah. So that's terrible IDs interracially like that. It's very difficult, especially beyond 24 hours. They say Asian immigrants are the worst. Literally. Yeah they they will tell a cop all look alike that's what they'll say you all look alike right white black they don't give a shit are you out of your mind you all look like me yeah only immigrants obviously but they said like asians would get robbed in a store koreans would own and they go what do you look like and

all they could get out of was tall short fat skinny dark or light that's it they didn't know anything else it's showing pictures they go all look alike i don't know that's amazing fucking barkley does not look like dennis rodman no he doesn't he does not look like david robinson looks like steve urkel either but apparently they would miss them which one got the Yeah. There you go. In the same car. Which drug has a commercial? So, yeah, the August 14th, a detective noticed that the drawing, because the problem was he made a composite sketch, the guy. So then the detective thought that the sketch looked like Clarence K. So he puts Clarence K's picture in a fucking lineup, and then this guy picks him out.

Okay. That's how this whole thing worked. He picks him out okay that's how this whole thing worked uh he picks him out they now they finally get a physical lineup and uh the nurse the paramedic says after he saw K's face is quote very similar to the person who attacked me however his general build is bigger and taller I do not believe this was the person he described as a sailor as six feet tall 180 pounds this guy's much bigger and in his early 20s okay uh k is 35 63 and 240 i realized obvious crack yeah 35 is not 20 and it's also not fucking 180 pounds at six foot tall right you'd go big motherfucker would be the first thing you'd say fucking huge would be your first before you'd even. Fucking huge would be your first. Before you'd even go, he was this.

I mean, you'd go, huge dude, big, stocky shoulders, fucking scary big guy. Like, could fuck me up. Thank God he only stabbed me once because his bulletproof vest would be Swiss cheese. Yeah, no shit. He was held on $500,000 bond since he surrendered to police there. The warrant was alleging attempted first degree murder and second degree assault they said quote it's imperative for us to clear michael or mr k as well as to catch the person who committed the crime we had an obligation to bring him in and investigate the case to

determine if he was the suspect i'm very comfortable saying clarence k is not the suspect i'm sorry he had to go through all this only time anyone will ever apologize him and it's warranted actually i'm still not sorry no i'm still not sorry he deserved it it kept him from fucking violating restraining orders for a while he i mean he's a good suspect for it why not he they release him from jail and he says quote freedom feels good i would also like to say to mr voth that's the victim i'm sorry someone committed such a horrible crime against him and i hope that the denver police department will keep looking for this person because there could be more victims and more wrongfully accused people out there and i would just like this to be over with please don't arrest me for nothing i give you plenty of reason to do it for something

wow that was the most oj thing he's ever said oh jesus christ i'm sorry now they can look for the real stabber right yeah that's what it's not looking for the real guy who's stabbing motherfuckers. That was so OJ Simpson. 1997, he wants to be a boxer. Of course he does. Like every Greg Hardy asshole, he's got to be a boxer. Fighting women? Starts to train and gets a fight set for March 22, 1997.

His pro debut, all ready to go. 22nd, 1997. His pro debut, all ready to go. But, again, with him on March 9th, 1997, which is also the day that Biggie got shot and killed. March 9th, 1997. He is arrested.

So he's not going to have this fight now because he's going to be in jail. He went to the home of his girlfriend, Jennifer. Remember Jennifer from fucking four years ago when she's punching him? No, that was Patricia. Oh, this is Jennifer on top of the thing. his girlfriend, Jennifer. Remember Jennifer from fucking four years ago? And she's punching him. No, that was Patricia. Oh, this is Jennifer on top of the thing. This is Vegas Jennifer here.

20th floor. 20th floor balcony getting beat in the face after being knocked down and kicked. Why is he talking to her? Apparently, he shows up at her house at about 8 a.m. 8 a.m. It's early. Harassing her and her boyfriend, a guy named Randy Guess. Now, the woman here, Jennifer, told police that he banged on her windows and door and later drove his car at her and Guess as they tried to flee from the home.

They tried to run away. He chased them with his car and tried to run them down. Oh, my God. This is fucking crazy. this is fucking crazy uh she also says that clarence side swiped randy guess with his car while he's not he's on foot and while yelling obscenities at them as he drove away what year is this 97 oh god there are there are cell phones there are so yeah he hit a man with his car and then cursed at him as he drove away that'll teach you you cocksucking motherfucking bastard fucking my girl oh my god uh yeah she accused him of abuse and obtained and got another restraining order against him um he already obviously did four months in jail last year for this

and uh he's on probation for violating the restraining order last time because those mean nothing to him no absolutely paper to. They're absolute paper to him. They mean nothing at all. They are a driver's license to him. Yeah, he doesn't. Useless. It's just paper. Whether it's in your favor or against you,

it's still worthless. Who cares? Wow. So the earliest, he's going to be in jail all weekend there. And yeah, this is fucking nuts. Oh, also charged with reckless driving because you can't drive on people's lawns and try to run people down.

That's crazy. Since 1990, this is his 14th arrest, which is quite a lot. May 1997, again violates the restraint. Dude, what the fuck? This is arrested twice a year. Stop doing this. Stop. He again fucking violates the restraining order again it's like he gets

out of fucking jail and he's like well i better go to jennifer's house tell her about this shit what the fuck is wrong with you i'm not gonna believe what the toilets look like yeah this was for phone calls i believe in harassing phone you're not even you're not even seeing satisfaction are you getting out of that for nothing july 1997 that was may july uh guess what he they arrest clarence again for what stalking jennifer at home stalking again now he's stalking outside uh this is crazy they find him literally prowling around the outside of her home why would you stalking her at this point what what's what do you get out of that he's a sick person yeah that's what it is he's a sick person that has you know what he's gotten everything he's ever wanted his entire life yeah and now we can't have these women they won't have they don't want him he will not take

that for an answer just like oj it's the same fucking thing there's this big article from this time about how you know why the fuck doesn't there's all these athletes that they don't do shit for while the oJ trial is going on? Don't they see this is what happens to people? You can't. When someone repeatedly for years acts like they own somebody here, it's not going to end up well. Because you teach them that they do. That's the thing.

They own everything. That's it. So he's arrested for that in July 97, and he's held in jail, and he's going to be sentenced again. They give him a chance to speak and he says, quote, I'm ashamed for my family and friends and for myself to have to go through this because I know in my heart that what I did was wrong.

I feel like I have disobeyed the court order. Because you fucking did. Repeatedly. I feel like I have. You wouldn't be here otherwise. I'm going to kill that bitch. The judge is like, we finally agree on something.

I feel like you've disobeyed the court order as well uh as a matter of fact you sir may fuck off 540 days in jail okay that is uh that's almost that's over a year and a half yeah so that's almost two years two years would be 700 720 so good two years is 730 it's a lot of time yeah it's a shitload of time that's uh it's a lot it's it's a stocking charge it's a year and a half it's pretty good yeah uh so not too shabby uh september of 1997 he's in jail yeah and he gives a jailhouse interview and he says quote i know it'll be hard for a lot of people to believe but i'm serious about turning my life around a lot of good is coming out of this great we've never heard this before this is like he's a crime and sports classic like he's a he's a classic he's super good now a lot of good is coming out of this yeah let's feel let's feel bad for him i know it's hard to believe but i don't belong in jail

i'm gonna turn my life around now now after? After I've already caused people to fear for their lives and need therapy forever? Certainly out of the NFL and every opportunity to make money. So why not? Oh, boy. You should feel bad for me, as a matter of fact. Care for me. That's right. And also, you would feel bad for these poor women.

Yeah. I mean, I feel bad for everybody, Jimmy, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Clarence Kay, the chief executive officer of Funky Records. What? Funky. It's funky with a money sign at the end of it. So Funky's, I guess he's maybe. Funky money?

He's funky and records with a Z. Oh, no. He lives in Zambia. So I feel like he saw like four minutes of MTV one time. And he's like, funky records I make for you. I can do it. Hey, I make the beats that make you dance. And he's like, fucking hey. That's what I figure he's like.

He's seen four and a half minutes of American TV. Yeah. And he's ready to go. He thinks Ed Lover and that other guy. Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre. No, not the rap.

The big fat guy. He's so funny. He's dead, sir. Very dead. I see him last week on TV. I get things laid in Zambia, I think. I don't know why

I gave him that accent. I don't know. I didn't want it to be real. It's solid. Crazy character. Yeah, just a character accent. He doesn't know what's on TV today. He doesn't want it to be real. Solid. Hey, why? Crazy character. Yeah, just a character accent. He doesn't know what's on TV today. He doesn't know.

It's odd. He's fun. Hey, why? Hey! He'll be a SoundCloud. When he finds out about SoundCloud, he will be one of those rappers. Absolutely. Just recording it right into his phone and then hitting upload with no edits or anything.

Just done. There's like fucking kids yelling in the background 2032 he's gonna be a huge soundcloud rapper no shit and finally a doctor uh from like 1903 who read the locomotor ataxia at the meeting of the clark county medical society in springfield ohio in 1910. What is that? I have no fucking idea. But he read it. He's a very respected man, though.

Where was it? A hundred years. Springfield, Ohio. In Springfield, Ohio, they were impressed with somebody to read. Very impressed with it. They put it in a book. They wrote it down. They wrote it down.

Who read that? Clarence? Okay. That is impressive. January 2004. He's, guess what? uh in aurora colorado on suspicion of burglary just outside of denver yeah suspicion of burglary as he's after he's accused of guess whose house he broke into an ex-girlfriend what a fucking shocker uh broke into her home yeah she went to call 9-1-1 and he grabbed her, took the phone away from her,

which is another fucking charge that you can't do here. The officers ended up seeing scrapes and bruises on the women, marks, not bruises, but red marks and shit like that. Apparently, he and this woman had been drinking together when this happened, but they ended up fighting. She asked him to leave. He came back, didn't let her call 911.

And then he walked, okay, a mile to the police station to file a report against her to say that she slapped him. But halfway through the report, he just stopped and left. They were like,

sure, fill this out. And he's like, great. And he filled out half of it and then he was just gone. they were like sure fill this out and he's like great and he filled out half of it and then he was just gone he just said never mind yeah he fucking left i don't want to write things i just wanted to yell about her i just wanted to complain about her i know i'd have to write some shit down uh yeah the woman ended up calling police though and saying that he broke back into her home through a window by the way no this was okay uh yeah yeah no after he left after he left the police station he filled out half a report was like you know what i should just take care of this shit myself we're gonna handle this internally and then he went yeah we decided this

is an internal problem went to her house broke in through a window right and then grappled with her again and that's when police came and arrested him there. And so, yeah, this is, I'd say, a pattern. Yeah. By the way, the walking a mile of the police station, 345 a.m. He did this. After 1 a.m. After 1 a.m. He would be so suspended.

Dan Rees would be pissed. He'd be not happy. April 12, 2006, he is arrested again for domestic violence this time. He gets into a, quote, a shoving match with his girlfriend. Okay. You don't do. No's no match no if you're to a huge tight end in the nfl certainly overmatch you're just shoving your girlfriend that's it and she might shove you back but it's really not gonna have much effect on you defensive lineman you had to guard you had to fucking stop warrens taylor from pushing past you she's not gonna get by. I don't think so.

Yeah, he. Wow. He gets in a shoving match with her and ends up grabbing her and ramming her head into her carport. That's not a match. That is fucked up in Edgewater. This is again. Rams her head a couple times, apparently, into the carport. Make some marks and bruises.

She calls the cops, obviously, and he's arraigned on a misdemeanor violent domestic violence charge that sounds like more than misdemeanor jesus christ and they again that's the most obvious statement we've ever had he's just got to stop hitting women really i don't know it's pretty good for women are really his downfall yeah and they issue this woman now issues a temporary restraining letter against him he's the most restrained motherfucker we've ever had i've never heard anyone with so many restraining letters he's so restrained yet so unrestrained that's what i'm saying uh he's scheduled to appear in court in april he's gonna end up pleading guilty it's guilty to harassment in a domestic case is what it is and the judge says you sir again fuck off six months in jail

this time okay ends up doing for that jesus christ august 17 2008 he's arrested for violation of a restraining order for uh harassment by striking or shoving again he pleads guilty to this again and does a little time again in 2008 same woman how much does he hate masturbation he must how much does he must love it because these women are never wanting to have sex with him but i mean they hate his guts they're like stop get away from my house he hates it so much that he will try to get back in the good graces of a woman that loathes him. And he knows it. Jesus. Okay, that was August of 2008. January 7, 2009, he is arrested and held in the

Denver County Jail after being arrested for harassment and violating a fucking restraining order. Again. Jesus Christ. So that goes on. He does some time, some restraining orders here and there. February 5, 2017, he is arrested for driving without a

license and driving while license revoked for dw i oh that's great so again yeah his license is still it's been 31 years it still doesn't have a driver's license it's like somebody we know 30 it really is it really is holy fucking shit at. At this point, though, if your license is, I mean, I don't know. Laws are in Colorado on it. But if there are anything like here where your license is, you get a DUI on a license that's suspended for DUI, you are fucked. You're so fucked. I hope he gets seven years for this.

He's so fucked. Well, I think he was out and about. We'll see. But yeah, he seven years for this. He's so fucked. Well, I think he was out and about. We'll see. But yeah, he's arrested for that. Now, I have a quote here from Carl Mecklenburg's book. Yeah. The Bronco. Great nose tackle there.

Defensive Hall of Famer. It's heart of a student athlete, all pro advice for competitors and their families is what it's called. And it's kind of a book that's like, you know, yeah, you need to try this and do that. But it's also like, hey, you're going to get people that are gonna it's very much like almost like an nfl's rookie symposium yeah it's here are the lessons that i learned watching uh mr k it really is and that's he has a chapter dedicated to that where i will quote mr mecklenburg he says quote cocaine is another insidious drug because he was talking about other drugs players using cocaine have great strength and stamina,

but in the meantime, they're destroying their lives and their health. With cocaine, you don't feel the pain, but that doesn't mean you aren't injuring yourself. I played with Clarence K for his whole career. Clarence had a well-documented cocaine problem. He has been in and out of jail for much of his adult life because of his addiction. The last time I saw Clarence, he was working at Grease Monkey. What?

Now, if you're not American, Grease Monkey is like a Jiffy Lube. It's like cheap oil changes. Right. He's an oil change guy. It's both oil changes. Oil change after oil change all day. He's draining oil and filling oil. He was working at Grease Monkey and Carl Mecklenburg.

Imagine your ex-teammate comes up to get his oil changed. You're like, oh, Jesus Christ. What the fuck? It gets worse, okay? He was working at Grease Monkey. He had blown all the money he had earned in the NFL, and his ex had a restraining order on him. We know that. He told me that Dan Reeves had talked to him about coaching in Atlanta.

What? Dan Reeves was going to fucking hire this idiot to coach in Atlanta. Oh, my God. But that he wouldn't take the job because Dan insisted that he wanted him to take drug tests. Wow. I'd rather change oil and do coke. Yep. That's what he says.

That have nothing to do with the NFL. He says, quote, Steve Howell, Lawrence Taylor, Hollywood Henderson Henderson and many other athletes have had their own personal battles with cocaine. Cocaine can do nothing for you but tear your life apart. Imagine being so addicted to coke that you would rather have it and your grease monkey job than a chance to coach in the NFL. Cocaine is nothing to mess with. I can't imagine. I would fucking say so. Read that first sentence, though, again, from Carl. Which one?

Where he said, cocaine is an insidious drug. However. Yeah, players using cocaine have great strength and stamina. Period. End of the rest of this. That's all they need to know. Steroids, all that. Don't say that, Carl.

Never say that ever. Now, it'll make you a better player, but don't tell a kid that. This will give you much more opportunity to make much more money. Now, you can get a scholarship at a great great school but you'd much rather play for a division two school and sell insurance later i'm sure now wichita state you would think oh shit have fun that's a good baseball school now you would think at this point no one who's ever had anything to do with clarence ever wants anything to do with him again he's not getting invited to bronco reunions john elway's having a barbecue to you know celebrate the 86 season clarence ain't invited he may try to crash the party he'll jump

in through a window or something but he's not invited no so uh they're gonna have to get a restraining if you want him to come just get a restraining order on him he'll show up that's the thing it's like the bat signal yeah he sees a restraining letter against him he goes right to the source of it um well apparently the his high school that he went to disagrees with it and they think they should honor him oh my god on november 1st 2019 he is inducted into the seneca high School Hall of Fame. What are they doing? Hall of fucking fame. They talk about, yeah, him and some other guy are getting Joe Don Reams from 1997 class of. Yeah, that's what he's doing.

He is in a high school, brought him to their fucking place and said, we want to honor you, sir. I mean, if you only do it on merit of his high school. Oh, amazing. But you don't bring that guy around the kids. He's constantly arrested for fucking... He's going to ask the kids for coke. Yeah, you got any coke? Someone's going to get a restraining order on him.

I let her four times in three different sports. Do you have coke? Do you have coke? Please, anybody? Where's that shawarma man? Wow, can't get enough Clarence K? Anybody? Where's that shawarma man? Wow. Can't get enough Clarence K? I've had enough.

Holy shit, man. Well, you can go to sports.ha.com where you can bid on a game-worn white Broncos jersey of Clarence K. For 40 bucks. It's an auction. I don't know. It's a bidding thing. So who the hell knows?

I might do it. And there's a bunch of cards out there and stuff. I mean, you can find a bunch of Clarence K shit. jersey it's it's got to be cheap right so why it's it's just it's an auction so i don't know how it's like one it's it's not like an ebay thing where it goes on but that's my point all at once i don't know where nobody bidding on that i can't imagine anyone's bidding on a unless they're a seneca high school student that doesn't know any better unless it's his mom i can't imagine anyone is bidding on a goddamn clarence k jersey i don't think that that website takes coke as a as a payment that would be great he might want it he might but they like you said they don't take coke if i bid 20 bucks i win

he doesn't have that poor clarence doesn't have 20 bucks out of his uh grease monkey paycheck well you know i'm sure he's at least one wage let's garnish his grease monkey job to win his jersey wow that is clarence k everybody did you like i said you that guy's around no idea i didn't know till this week and i saw a couple of arrests like oh he sounds like a bad guy because i was looking up somebody else and then i just looked him up i'm like jesus christ this guy got arrested he's one of the worst guys he's a fucking nightmare and i had no ideas out there this is why i say crime and sports we say, we don't know how many we have, but there's always more. Yeah, yeah.

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