Crime in Sports - #194 - The Death Of An Image - The Depravedness of Rusty Torres

Episode Date: February 4, 2020

This week, we find out about a man who lived his childhood dream, making it to the major leagues, and even on to his lifelong favorite team. His baseball career fizzled out, but after a coupl...e bumps in the road, he pulls his life together, and even does good for the community. That is, until shocking, and horrifying charges are leveled against him, and nobody thinks he's such a great guy anymore! This one is insane!! Work your whole life to achieve a goal, then achieve that goal, and make sure to throw it all today with some of the worst charges you could have with Rusty Torres!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:59 asshole the whole time and what a jerk we make fun of him you know it's sad what he did to his what he did to these women obviously stuff like that but you know beyond that like you know he'll do something stupid we'll laugh at him and you go on from there right then you get a show like last week that had that had like a tragic ending even though it was a lot of comedy before that and all that sort of thing and people like oh well i kind of feel bad for him and i got that's fine but it's crime and sports, so the endings, you never know what's going to happen, basically.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's the thing. So, you know what I mean? So, in response to that, since you felt bad last week, here... We'll make sure that doesn't happen? We'll make goddamn sure. And then we'll see which one you like better.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Okay. And then you'll go, oh, yeah, I won't bitch about anything. I'll just see whatever they give me, I'll take. Whatever they figure out, I'll take it. That's it. If we're serving it up, it's going to be fucking hot and crispy,
Starting point is 00:04:52 so eat it. That's what we're saying. I did learn that Claude and Mario, no relation. No, and that's the other thing. We even said, not sure if they're related, but they're both named Lemieux when they play hockey, so sure, we'll say they are. The other thing is, nobody gave a shit.
Starting point is 00:05:04 You know why? The show wasn't about Claude andio lemieux they were mentioned for i don't know eight seconds out of two hours and 40 minutes yeah and i got 10 20 50 fucking tweets brothers you know what i don't fucking care i don't like hockey that much don't care i like when they fight don't give a shit so exciting ask your average person on the street, hey, Claude and Mario Lemieux, are they brothers? They'll go, yeah, sure. Probably. Who knows? That's exactly what I did.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I guess. I don't fucking know. I didn't say. They were born in a cabin, both of them, from the same mother's vagina, two cold years apart in the Canadian. No, I didn't say that. Nursed upon wolf's milk. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So anyway, let's get to this because we got craziness coming up here very good back in time a little bit which we always have fun with we're going to talk about rosendo torres hernandez yeah yeah nascar driver driver a lot of puerto rican indycar drivers that's that's that's what they're known as puerto rican it's one of those things where it's like uh you know in the puerto rican culture, you hope to someday, they've been telling their kids for generations that you're going to drive the IndyCars and you're going to win the race. That's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:06:13 There's been a lot of them. Is he a jockey? The long list of Puerto Rican IndyCar champions, and NASCAR especially, too. It's big time. They're huge into NASCAR. No, he's a baseball player. He doesn't go by Rosendo Torres Hernandez. What's he go by? Jesus Christ, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:06:30 He goes by Rusty Torres. Perfect. It's funny because he shares that name, which is actually a sexual move. It's actually when a chick shoves a gordita up your ass while blowing you and humming La Cucaracha at the same time, I believe. That's a a rusty torres or at least it should be humming the worst tequila that's it right there
Starting point is 00:06:52 that's low rider same thing the same thing you know what it's fine low riders acceptable yeah low anything that's been in a cheech and chong movie soundtrack basically a low rider you can have whatever you want in a gata devita whatever if it was an up in smoke it's it's cleared it's fine it's fine so rusty torres you got which jesus christ just he didn't know give it a old rusty we've had rusty medina on small town murder he didn't know. Give it to old Rusty Torres. We've had Rusty Medina on Small Town Murder. He didn't know that Rusty anything is not positive. And just Rusty Torres for some reason. It sounds worse than Rusty Medina. Rusty Trombone.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Rusty Trombone. Yeah, it's bad. He took Rusty Trombone and he's Dirty Torres at the same time as Dirty Sanchez. So he's all weird sexual things mixed together. He mixes it all up. He's a disgusting man is what I'm getting at here. Just based on... A filth grab bag.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's a grab bag. It's a bowl of filth. It's like a Chex Mix bowl. Hey, that's some filth. It's a square filth. Hey, it's one of those skinny long pretzel-y things. That's a good filth. That is the worst snack of all time.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I hate Chex Mix so much. You just leave behind all the whatever that is. The shit nobody else eats? The dark brown shit. I don't want that stuff there. I want those little cheesy pretzel sticks. From time to time. And some Chex.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I don't know what else you put in there. Guardettos are gross. Everything that has a bunch of weird shit jammed together with some seasoning on it. Yeah. Stop it. Well, they just put the seasoning so it all tastes the same anyway. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So what's the point? You don't love the rye chips. You love those just as much as the pretzel because they all taste the same. The pretzel. And the pretzel tastes just like rye because it's been rubbing up against rye for the last six months in a little plastic bag. Stop acting like it's different. It's all gross.
Starting point is 00:08:44 It's fucking who and who did that i don't know a trail mix it's like this is what we have left take it with you on the trail i don't know it's a bunch it's the odds and ends much on it it's about six ounces of everything we got that's it yeah it's gross it's like mixing all the liquors together in food for food food for the mat shop yeah just a little bit of this left, a little bit of that left. You know what you do after a party when you're 12 and you're perusing. Well, I drink a little of that. You ever do that when you're a little kid?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, you end up drinking a lot of brandy. Yeah. Because that's all that's left. I passed out on my face on New Year's Eve when I was like 10 one time from that. Fucking E&J. Oh, boy, I got hammered. It's always in the fridge. I don't know what the hell.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Nobody drinks that shit. You can drink that all day. So, old Rusty Torres, born September 30th, 1948. So, he's an older gentleman, as we'll talk about here. He's born in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico. Oh, native. Yeah, he's born down in Puerto Rico and moves to the States. He's about six or seven years old. He comes to Brooklyn. Wow, that's born down in Puerto Rico and moves to the States. He's about six or seven years old.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He comes to Brooklyn. Wow, that's a long trek. Well, yeah. I don't know if you've ever been to New York, but quite a few Puerto Rican people there. They got a whole fucking parade about it. It's a parade. They got a whole day. And I have to say, that's one of the things I miss most about New York is fucking Puerto Ricans.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I don't know what it is, but I always get along with... It's aans. I don't know what it is, but I always get along with... It's a stereotype. I don't care. I get along great with Puerto Ricans, and I always have since I was a little kid. Everybody's Puerto Rican. I can talk to them for five minutes.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm like, yeah, this motherfucker's Puerto Rican. It's a weird thing. Puerto Ricans and Italians have a very... It's a very... Well, they came here... It's a similar struggle. Well, they replaced us everywhere. Like, Spanish Harlem was Italian Harlem, and then Puerto Ricans moved there. well they came here or struggle well they they replaced us everywhere like spanish harlem was
Starting point is 00:10:26 italian harlem and then puerto ricans moved there okay so it's like they puerto ricans i feel like moved here and saw whatever italians were doing and like i'm gonna do that we can do that that's what the immigrants do here so they bought a cadillac and they dress the same and they it's fucking hilarious so it always it always used to crack me up like the you get an old italian man an old puerto rican man they look exactly the same it's fucking hilarious and they act the same yeah they do they have very very similar manners maybe it's just a awesome a spanish root you know what i mean yes there's something to that with the with italians right it's a spanish well i mean it's right next to spain it's all the same shit over there it's mediterranean right you know it's all at the right. They're separated by water a little bit, but it's, you know, closer than here.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And, you know, closer than New York and Texas would be, you know, so they're in there. So he moved here. He said when he moved, he was he had blonde hair and blonde eyebrows. What? Yeah. Well, also Puerto Ricans, if you don't know, color-wise will span the spectrum. Really? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:26 There's Puerto Ricans that are, you know, that are very dark. That are very dark. And then there's Puerto Ricans that are, my one friend in New York was born in Puerto Rico. He was white as an Irishman. He had dark hair and dark eyes, but I mean, and he looked Puerto Rican, but his skin was as white as a fuck, and he looked Irish.ish like he couldn't stay outside and burn and shit like it was baby it was yeah you know he wasn't he was a very white albino baby so uh so yeah he said plus a lot of kids when they're younger are bond and then they grow into you know adult hair i
Starting point is 00:11:59 don't know why it's uh shocking me right now when i i know very well that no matter what the nationality is, the skin color spectrum changes. I guess that makes sense. I'm just blown away because I see a specific... Mexican women are blonde. I mean, look at Fat Joe. That guy's a black guy, and he barely looks white. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Fat Joe's Puerto Rican. He is, isn't he? Puerto Rico. You're right. See? There you go. That's like his whole... He's very proud of it.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Puerto Rico. Yeah. That's his whole... That's his whole his whole thing well i think he's dead now fat joe yeah isn't he dead now i think he might have died recently i mean the vast majority of the big rappers don't big pun has died a long time ago the fat joe's long gone well he was 700 pounds when he died we looked at that was like whoa his leg turned black when he died it was like it a good thing. His leg was black from the time he was 14, probably. He was like in the eighth grade, like, I got this black leg. They're like, damn. It's fucking rough, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think he died of deep leg thrombosis. You should lose some weight. That's a bad one. He died of 700 pounds. Yes, he did. At 5'6". He died of being the biggest man. You can pick it.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Just pick him. It doesn't matter. I mean, not that it doesn't matter, but pick the ailment. Anything could have got him. That's rough. If one thing didn't get him, something else was on deck, just fucking chomping at the bit. Warming up. He's throwing junk out there. I'm going to fucking crush this shit.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Over the right field wall, he's throwing garbage. Weighted back, just swinging it shoulder to shoulder timing him and shit look at this shit no break to the curve ball fastballs flat he's throwing bullshit
Starting point is 00:13:34 up there on that mound he's throwing bullshit on his 700 pound fucking mound it hurts it feels so shitty to laugh at that poor fuck i know but i love it i know i don't know why we're both delirious right now so what are you gonna do you know what i mean nobody wanted big pun to die no he was great seemed like a fun guy he's bragging about all the squishy crush you know which is hilarious bragging about it well stop bragging because that well that is something to brag about because they had to go on a scavenger hunt to find
Starting point is 00:14:11 his dick so he's like girls were willing to to go that extra mile not only they're willing to fuck me they're willing to put in the hour beforehand to put on a spelunking helmet figure out where this thing is that trail mix behind them i'd i'd give him i'd give him a sack of trail mix and a spelunking helmet and i'm like yo baby puerto rico with the ride ships okay every time big fun fucked he smelled like gardettos i think so yeah absolutely i think he probably smelled like Gardeo's beforehand. Probably. Not to fat shame or whatever, but if you're 700 pounds, you smell like Gardeo's probably.
Starting point is 00:14:52 700 pounds is extreme. That's extreme. So much. That's not an accident. That's a different thing. I knew Ralphie May when he was losing weight. It's a smell. Gardeo's smell is a thing. weight. I mean, it's a smell. That Gardetto smell is a thing.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Then you move around, he's a big guy. He was eating fresh foods like lettuce and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And tons of vegetables. You're just moving. And he just smelled like Gardetto. Yeah, there's nothing you can do about it. Smell like a rye chip.
Starting point is 00:15:19 You can't help it. It's going to happen. It's lasagna. Rusty. Yeah. Get back Cezanne. Rusty. Yeah. Get back to this guy. Fucking Rusty. He grew up in New York.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah, he says, quote, I came to Brooklyn in 1955 when I was seven years old. When I was young, I had blonde hair and blonde eyebrows. My father was Anglican Spaniard. Got it. So his father was more white. I have African side from my mom,'s half caribbean indian and half african-american wow so yeah he's got well that's the puerto rico yeah i'm just saying that's a sexy courtship you're mixing things together that's always going to be good that's always good that's
Starting point is 00:15:55 hot is it beige babies yeah this is what i'm talking you gotta mix i like this genetic diversity is fucking good it is it's what everything is based on. Look at the royal family. Yeah. Look at them. Look at them. Look at the one who's going to be king. Okay. The quote sexy one
Starting point is 00:16:14 has a red afro. Right. He's a fucking pale guy with a red afro. He's the sexy one because his brother, by the way, I've said this before,
Starting point is 00:16:22 but William is going to be the king of a mage, like an A nation, like a first world nation. Get some fucking plugs, dude. Seriously. Seriously. Or shave it all. No.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Get some plugs. You got a point. Get yourself a dorky Prince Charles haircut. They need that from you. Fucking going up there bald as shit looking like he's 75 years old. If somebody British dies and they have no family and no will, that shit goes to the throne isn't that crazy that's amazing isn't that a fucking bizarre thing that's a fact that's amazing and they they generally donate it to charity but after they take their fees so yeah they're still accepting money from people that
Starting point is 00:17:01 don't have a will and no family all of our brit British... Fucking nuts. That's insane, by the way. I don't understand that that should go, I would assume, right to a charity. Right away. Right to some sort of something. But I don't know how we do it here, so I don't understand. I don't know either. It doesn't go to... It doesn't go into the general fund?
Starting point is 00:17:14 I don't think it goes there, no. It doesn't go into... I don't think it goes to the IRS. It doesn't go into Trump's golf fund or something? I don't think it goes to the parks and recs. I don't think it goes to anything like that. Shit. Okay, well...
Starting point is 00:17:24 It should go to charity somehow, right? I don't know know do they hold it in escrow or something i don't know what escrow means i don't know why i said that just sounded like a financial thing to say it sounded fine it said didn't it sound good you looked at me like that's a good question it's a great question you have no idea either i don't know what escrow thank you i just know that i've put money in one before and i don't even know what the fuck it does there's money in there holding company i think that's what it does. Is it a holding company? I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think it's a hold. I think it's a middleman that...
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah, hold. We definitely got his money. Yeah. That's what it is. And then they disperse it after a fee. That's crazy, too. By the way, UK listeners, all of you guys, not just in England, the whole UK. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I don't know... Scotland. Scotland, Ireland, wherever the hell you are. All those people. Wales. Finland? No. Finland doesn't count. I know't give a shit. I don't know. Scotland. Scotland. Wherever the hell you are. Wales. Finland? No. Finland doesn't count. I know that for a fact.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It's far away. It's just right to the edge of the channel there. I really want you to just tweet, email, Facebook, whatever the preferred method of communication to the royal family. I assume you all have a line. preferred method of communication to the royal family. I assume you all have a line. Whatever the preferred method of communication.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Say you'd feel better if Prince William had plugs. I get you're not American. You can't be like, get some plugs, you bald fuck. It's okay to be bald. Totally fine. People go bald. That's great, but he's going to be the fucking king. That's crazy. Get a stupid looking wig. No one's going to say shit to you. You're the king. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Just get some hair on your head. Somehow they got a decent face on him you know what i mean like that other one that other guy the older fella uh charles yeah holy shit he looks inbred as fuck that's an ugly man that's inbreeding that's a hideous fella that's inbreeding you don't want that as king thank christ i'll never be that's why genetic diversity yeah i'd rather have rusty torres right get some puerto ricans up there there you go a puerto rican king of england absolutely that would be awesome oh fucking i would love that fat joe having a barbecue out in the front lawn of buckingham palace that's what i want right there big fucking crown with the white shit with the black speckles
Starting point is 00:19:19 in it 77 cadillac eldorado with gold rims on it sitting out there. That's what I want. Just bouncing. So, yeah. He says, quote, the color of my skin was like gold. Yeah. Oh, he's golden. Then we moved to another neighborhood in Brooklyn, one that had lots of kids. It was always packed outside.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I went outside and they're checking me out real good. And they asked me my name. I said, my name is Junior, which is fucking hilarious, by the way. Oh, did I mention? He's a fucking Junior! Wanted to save it for there. He's a Junior.
Starting point is 00:19:55 They just told him all that because I'm Junior. You don't want to try to pronounce this shit. They're like, no, no, no. You're not fucking Junior. Everybody's Junior. Fuck. Well, we'll get to it. Let's do it in their own words on this
Starting point is 00:20:04 and we'll let we'll let him explain why he wasn't allowed to be junior in the neighborhood here in their own words quote they said no no no we have plenty of juniors they said what's your first name i told them it was rosendo they said i needed a nickname i really didn't understand this thing with nicknames one guy called me rosie not only that, he said, you look Rosie. I told my dad my new name. He said, no, you're not Rosie. You're a Rosendo.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Rosie, that's a girl's name. So I had to go back outside. Yeah. He had to go back out and tell everybody. You go out there and tell everyone your name's not Rosie. Can't do it, guys. Yeah. It's 56.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Sorry. I'll beat my ass. My dad said to come back out here, and I'm supposed to fight anyone who calls me Rosie. I don't know what that, I don't know why. It don't know why knife when i press this button a blade comes out in the 50s that's what people would do parents would send their kids out they go they did well you get out there and you fucking don't come back here you fight them and say that's what the people would tell their kids don't make somebody bleed for them yeah that's fine and that was everybody told their kids that shit you could be you know anybody upper class whatever and they'd be like you go out there young man you beat his beat him in sports beat we'll beat him on the
Starting point is 00:21:12 squash court that's what we'll get him challenge him to pugilism ah yes so uh yeah he uh he's he lived he ends up living in uh basically beduy is where he lived in Brooklyn, different parts of Bed-Stuy. So he's, you know, growing up, it's starting to turn. That's the thing. It's starting to, over the course of the 60s is kind of when Brooklyn made a kind of a turn. In the 50s, Brooklyn is still, you know, doo-woppy.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Really? It's still, yeah, singing around a burning garbage can you know type of you know it's it's have you seen bronx tale yeah that was like 1961 at the beginning of that movie that's kind of what we're talking about everything's very um also very racially segregated not by law but by just it was italian neighborhood or irish neighborhood puerto rican neighborhood black neighborhood and they didn't mix very little shop of horrors it's a very little shop of horrors it's a very little shop of ours it's weird because my grandfather owned a pizza place in the bronx back then and it was in an irish neighborhood it was like on the border of
Starting point is 00:22:12 other neighborhoods so like all different people would come there and uh so my mother was friends with all sorts of kids and uh like the irish people thought that she was uh irish yeah my mother has green eyes and she's like light skin so they would she'd be waiting tables and they go what are you working for these fucking guineas for and they're fucking oh i am what are you working for these fucking dirty whops for they tell her shit like that and she'd be like oh well that's that's my dad that's kind of my dad so yeah pretty great walk yeah would you like cheese it's interesting though yeah that's how it was back then though it's just as long as everybody stayed to themselves nobody complained which is ridiculous obviously but that's how they had hey everything was fine back
Starting point is 00:22:59 then you stay over there stay over here nobody fucking any problems now all sorts of problems like yeah if everyone stays in their house and doesn't go outside there won't be any problems either so why go out you know if you're gonna go out and stuff of course you're gonna get in car accidents people are gonna murder you what do you expect you're going out to fucking dinner you're gonna get murdered that's how it works we're going for this whopper with words like that it's clear that you need another whiskey mr callahan thank you but Yeah, thank you. They're just like, mm-hmm. Thank you. But they'd tip her well because they felt bad for her.
Starting point is 00:23:29 That is nice. They literally did. Yeah, it was funny as well. Take some fucking sympathy cash and giggle all the way to the going-by-you diapers. All the way back to the cannoli store. All the way back to Arthur Avenue to get your fucking bread. So he says that he first discovered baseball when he was nine. So he really found it there.
Starting point is 00:23:52 He said that he said he and it's the Yankees in the 60s. So, I mean, you're coming late 50s. There was still Dynasty era Yankees. Big deal. Yeah. 61 is Mantle and Maris in the home run race. Right. You know, he's 13 years old at that. That shit is like. It's. Big deal. Yeah, 61 is Mantle and Maris in the home run race. Right. You know, he's 13 years old at that.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That shit is like... It's a big deal. I mean, that's all anyone cared about in the late 50s was New York and it was baseball in New York. So it was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:14 You know, people in New York cared about it anyway. So he said that it was nine and he went to see his first game. It was a Yankee game and his idol was Mickey Mantle and he said, sure enough, there's Mickey Mantle in center field. It and he said uh sure enough there's mickey mantle in
Starting point is 00:24:26 center field it's the mid 50s and it's mickey mantle in his fucking prime right like you know 1957 this is he's crushing 50 home runs a year 40 in the 40s he's nasty i mean drinking every night right carousing a monster yeah getting brought back to the hotel by the police every night i would love to see if mickey mantle lived now how often he would get arrested we would need five parts for him it would be like just so many disorderlies and drunken in publics and he wouldn't play right there's no way every time he'd wrap a fucking car around a tree that would be the end of his career he used to do that on the on a weekly basis back then so much so they needed like a liver and then another one i mean that's assuming that he could be athletic enough to keep up with the guys yeah yeah he was he was a freak you think so back
Starting point is 00:25:09 then he was a freak really freak yeah he had thighs that were like tree trunks like he wasn't like uniforms didn't let that shit show he wasn't like the guys that are baggy and he wasn't even like he wasn't working out he was drinking every night eating steak and smoking cigarettes and all that shit like if you put him on a modern day diet dude would have been a freak i mean yeah he was fucking fast he blew his knee out in his rookie year really in center field before that he was like the fastest guy in the organization he was he wasn't even a he was a power guy but they were looking more at his speed yeah that's how fast he was and then there was a how could you tell blew his knee out on a drain pipe based on. Based on a drain pipe in center field.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Why'd they run that shit out there? He was playing right. It was Joe DiMaggio's last year. Joe DiMaggio was playing center. And they had drain pipes out there so the field wouldn't flood when it rained. And there was all sorts of weird shit. And apparently they came in. Mano went for a ball.
Starting point is 00:26:00 DiMaggio called it. He's the center fielder. He's fucking Joe DiMaggio. You're a rookie. You back off. Backed off. Backed off. Stepped in a drain ditch and uh blew his knee out that was that wow so yeah then he was never never that fast again he was still pretty fast but they all looked super fast because the reels back then dave ruth looked like a speedster oh my god looked like vince
Starting point is 00:26:19 cullman the fastest fat fuck i've ever seen oh my my God, just legs like moving. So he said that he was in a centerfield bleacher seat. This is before there was the black section. I don't mean that in terms of where black people sit. I mean, they have a section that they put a black tarp over and all of it's called the batter's eye in every major league park. So the hitter at the plate can see the ball coming at them instead of fans waving white shit at them to lose the ball. That's what they used to do. them instead of fans waving white shit at them to lose the ball that's what they used to do people if you were in the centerfield bleachers it was your duty to have something white to put up when the opposing batters were really yeah so they couldn't see it the ball would disappear
Starting point is 00:26:53 into the sea of white behind them that's why it's all blacked out now so you see the ball against the black background clever yeah it's called the batter's eye but back then they didn't do that so he's in a centerfield bleacher seat right behind mickey mannell said he was screaming mickey mannell the whole game mickey mickey mickey all sorts of that shit um yeah he said it was just uh he was so he was just so enamored by him watching him make the catch in center field and hit the cutoff man he was just like wow this is fucking crazy like he'd seen this guy on tv and here he is which was a was a big deal back then. It's not like now. Now, if I piss you off, you just tweet at me. Not that I'm famous, but I mean just anybody.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I don't know you personally, you know what I'm saying? You can just get a hold of me. So, I mean, you can do this with famous people. Twitter is not for normal people. Twitter is just a way to streamline hate mail to celebrities. Let's say, Twitter is a way for normal people to complain about shit that they don't have any control over. Directly to the person that they don't have any control over. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It's fucking horrible. It's interesting. It's the worst invention ever. It's weird. It's awful. It's definitely strange. It's super awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And it fucking, your phone will be like, hey, come here. Somebody has some shit to say to you. Somebody is being a douche for no reason. Somebody hates you. Yeah. I love that. That's my favorite. Somebody hates you.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Come look at it. It's horrible. It is. It's the worst invention on earth. It has to be. You know, I can't be much worse. I've just I've just gotten to the point now off subject for a second here. I've just gotten to the point now with social media where it's like if people are cool and it's somebody who's cool i try to be as cool as i can back but if if somebody
Starting point is 00:28:29 takes the time out of their day to try to be a dick just try to upset you and just to do that like that like snarky kind of half thing yeah it's like he'll look like a dick if he yells at me now guess what don't care don't care i'll do it both barrels motherfucker it's coming i don't care you get a half snarky thing as i'm gonna just unload on it i don't even care i'm just tired of it because why would you take time out of your day to do that yeah why what is wrong with you how fucking worthless are you it's not how many it's not even at that point how sad am i that i've got to talk back how sad are you that you would initiate i'm doing this for society right for society you need to be embarrassed in public you need to be fucking corrected because
Starting point is 00:29:10 you know how many people around you do eye rolls people around you eye roll right your family your kids your fucking spouse your everyone around at work when you walk in jesus fucking christ i wish he would quit or fucking something. When he calls in, it's so nice. Isn't it pleasant? Right? That's you. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:30 That's you. Do you wonder why you never eye roll with people? Because they wait till you leave to eye roll at you. That's why. Stop. And I'm saying this not for me because I don't care. It means it's easy for me to be able to make fun of you. I don't care. Like, that's easy for me to make fun of you. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:29:45 That's easy for me. Or mute. That is the greatest function that ever happened, the mute, because it doesn't tell them that they're blocked and it doesn't let them know that I don't have to see your dumb shit anymore. Yeah, that's nice, too. It's so great. That's nice, too.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's so handy. Yeah, I'm not a big blocker. I don't want to give them the fucking satisfaction. I got a million fuck yous for you, so you can keep coming if you want. I'll drop them on you. Fuck you all you want. I'll make more. I don't want to give them the fucking satisfaction. I got a million fuck yous for you, so you can keep coming if you want. I'll keep. I'll drop money all day. Fuck you all you want. I'll make more.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Like, I don't give a shit. I got them all day. And I have a lot of, like, pent up angst about everything. I'm a fucking stressed out guy, so I'll just take it all out on you. It just makes it easier for me. Then I can go be nice to Sarah, be nice to my kids, fucking high five you when you come over. Get my shit out on you. over oh hold on a sec gotta tell somebody else to go fuck their mother thank you hold on
Starting point is 00:30:35 in her gardetto stinking twat that's my new one did you get your cock in there next to my chips way off a nine-year-old's first majestical experience at a baseball game sorry everybody for that golden nine-year-old so he's a gold he's the skin the color of gold yeah at a in the sun in an afternoon game screaming at mickey mantel shining golden in the sun um yeah he said that uh uh he saw mickey mantil uh like you know just motion to the crowd and do like a you know whatever when they're in the beginning because i think they've been doing it since then where they make you respond to them the bleacher people i think that's been going on
Starting point is 00:31:16 since the 50s where you have to be like yeah you know the yankee thing that they do where they chant every the beginning of the game they chant every player's name until they acknowledge the crap. Really? So if you don't do it, they'll fucking do it the whole. They'll just chant the whole game until you do it. They'd say, Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter, for fucking the whole. All you have to do is this. But you have to do it or else they will not fucking stop.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Wow. It's weird. Oh, my God. It's a thing that they do. I was just thinking before we started that talk that I i would everybody but the starting pitcher you don't fuck with his concentration yeah right right right that makes sense yeah or the closer too i mean the pitchers they come in at the end so it's already been done but in the beginning when everyone's out there they don't get any shit but the rest of the rest of the team did you ever talk to rod
Starting point is 00:32:01 about that where how fucking difficult is it to be on that mound trying to keep your head i did actually and you have assholes in the stands saying what god love them so he liked the clever ones rod was great yeah rod was fucking great clever ones i'd love he said everybody had the same shit he'd be like fucking he'd be like they'd be like you suck when you're warming up in the bullpen so rod would be like you know so rod he was he was fucking funny he he'd actually like go walk up to people who were screaming you'd suck and he'd be like man if you said something constructive that shit could help me and just everybody would laugh at the person around him he'd be like but you suck that's not telling me shit do anything tell me my elbows dropping too far when i'm coming in my you know do something to help me brother and they would have nothing to say yeah or they how much
Starting point is 00:32:41 pitching coaching yeah come on or they'd call him trailer trash because he looked like trailer trash and he'd be like, my trailer's 11,000 square feet, bitch, how big is yours? And he'd turn around
Starting point is 00:32:49 and throw another fucking pitch. Shit like that. My trailer's twice the size of your house. Twice? 11,000? That's a big,
Starting point is 00:32:58 yeah, twice the size of a big ass house. Yeah, so that was his comeback for that. That's hysterical. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:04 that's what I mean. He liked that shit hysterical yeah that's what i mean it's it's he liked that shit though he liked the razzing yeah it's baseball it feels like baseball uh but yeah he says it was it was he saw mickey wave to the crowd he was like that was for me yeah you know he saw me golden in the sun you know he knows man he said that that was you know that was his moment of like okay mickey gets it. Yeah. He acknowledged my greatness. Yeah. He says they interviewed him 14 years later, and he said, how did I feel? He says, oh, wow, forget it. I was so excited I could hardly breathe.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Imagine Mickey Mantle waving back at me. Maybe it's weird for me being Puerto Rican to say, but Mickey Mantle was always my hero. Why is that weird? That's not weird at all. That's not fucking weird. Yeah. That's not weird. He's a great player.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Oh, my heroes were, when I grew up, my heroes were don mattingly lawrence taylor eddie murphy two out of those three are fucking black and i i didn't be like it's weird for an italian kid to like they were just great who cares it was great and i didn't give a shit we had zero in common except for that we were both five three and eventually i was not anymore and you're like he still is i'll dunk on him boy so yeah it's not weird I guess but maybe if it's in your neighborhood it's but I mean back then there wasn't a lot of uh that was when Spanish players were starting to come into the league big but it was still I mean it was just white guys and black guys playing at that point and Mickey Mantle was so good it didn't matter uh he said uh he said
Starting point is 00:34:19 in Bedford-Stuyvesant in the neighborhood where I grew up we idolized Mantle so much we simply couldn't see anybody better than him. When I was a little kid, I used to say, I'd like to play left field or right for the Yankees just so I could be next to Mantle. But it couldn't be. Because, as we'll talk about. What a thing. Yeah, that's what he wanted to be. He wanted to just fucking bask in the glow of Mickey Mantle.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He wasn't like, I want to take Mickey Mantle's spot. I want to be his successor. Stand next to the guy. Yeah, he said, I play center, but I want to take mickey mannell spot i want to be his successor stand next to the guy yeah he said i play center but i want to play i just want to stand next to mickey mannell that's all i fucking wanted which is really interesting i think it's kind of guy he is he's kind of a team guy when it comes when it comes from that uh he says that uh there's a buddy of his who is from the old neighborhood talking about him later on guy named angel ramos yeah he says uh the first thing was his name rosendo in bedford stuyvesant where he comes from uh they thought rosendo was too ugly so they called him rusty that's a very tough neighborhood other kids
Starting point is 00:35:15 coming out of there would mess around with drugs alcohol and whatnot never rusty he has character i know because i played ball with him here on the sandlots when When he started playing professionally in the minors, he never forgot his friends. He keeps coming back to the old neighborhood. He talks to the guys, shares his experiences, watches our games, and gives us tips. He's a very impressive person. So he's one of the guys where it's, when he goes home, it's not bad. He's not going home to fuck around with his old buddies who he was, you know, who he was doing drugs with and shit. He was just playing baseball.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So he's going home, talk to the old baseball guys. And he's immersed in baseball, this guy. And that's a lot of people were back then, the players. And like now they have a lot of other even the professionals have a lot of other shit going on. Whereas back then they didn't do anything else. They didn't think about anything else but baseball. That was all they cared about. Just what you do.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. They thought about in the offseason. If I do this, I can keep my elbow in shape. And like, that's all they cared about it's just what you do yeah they thought about in the off season if i do this is gonna keep my elbow in shape and like that's all they gave a shit about so uh yeah he said he uh he said that he was never a bad kid rusty he said he never believed in never believed in taking dope is what he said boy that's old that's old man shit right there he said quote never this how old man is this I never believed in taking dope or mugging people. Well, OK. Good.
Starting point is 00:36:29 One of those doesn't fit with the other, though. Well, they're not equal. No, I mean, it's in the neighborhood. People are doing stuff like that. And he's like, I never did any of that. They're different guys. Yeah, they're usually different. I mean, they can be the same. They can be the same drugs.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah. Generally different guys. Different guys. Yeah. He said, but all he ever wanted to do was play professional baseball, and that's all he gave a shit about. No, nothing else. He didn't want to get mixed up in that. He's Benny Rodriguez from the Sandlot.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's kind of what he is, yeah. Or Benny Rusty Torres. Dirty Benny Sanchez. He says, quote, there's no reason a boy can't turn out well whether he's from bed stye or anywhere else he said no matter where you come from uh you always have a conscience and that conscience allows you to choose between good and bad in my own case i always wanted to be a ball player i asked god to help me become one and now i thank him for the ability he gave me yeah that's that's all he came he would go to bed at night praying for baseball ability.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I did the same. Johnny Bait didn't work for you? No. That's why Jimmy's not into religion. There was still a Puerto Rican answering prayer Jesus back then. Yeah. He doesn't answer white kids in North Phoenix. Well, I think by then, it was also later.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think he was just, the population had swelled. He was all out of wishes. Very think by then it was also later. So I think he was just the population had swelled. He was all out of wishes. Very busy by then. He's handing out baseball talent left and right. Yeah, that's how it is. It's like, I'm going to distribute it down. I'm distributing it in the Dominican for a while right now.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I'll get back to you. That's all I got left. I'm just going to sprinkle the island. Fuck off, Colorado. We'll come back to America later. Yeah, it's fine. We've got a couple of people here, but... There's enough of you in those leagues.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Plenty. Plenty. On the way back from Venezuela, we'll hit you. Might take a trip through Turks and Caicos and have a little vacation. Oh, there we go. He played stickball growing up. That was a thing. Yeah. Huge huge thing 1958 in new york city that's crack open a fire hydrant play some stickball all stickball yeah this is like the stereotypical you
Starting point is 00:38:34 can hear doo-wop music yeah people singing it and it's all it is man it's just white t-shirts and greased hair as far as the i can see shoppy's the Soda Shoppe. Oh, boy. The Soda Shoppe. He said, there used to be this thing that announcers would say. He swings like a rusty gate. Here I am playing stickball. I couldn't play. I was only about eight years old. I was horrible.
Starting point is 00:38:57 They gave me a bat I couldn't hit. One of the guys, whose name was Manuel, looks at me and says, hey, rusty, rusty. We're going to call you rusty. Not only that, but you are Rusty. You swing like a rusty gate and you look rusty. Oh, that stings. Kids are ruthless. Yeah, and this is back east.
Starting point is 00:39:15 This is just how your friends talk to you. Hey, look at this fucking piece of shit. That's your buddy. That's your buddy. We can't call you terrible fuck, but Rusty kind of embodies all of that. That's your best friend. That's your best friend. If somebody came up and messed with you he would punch that person in the face no questions asked but before that you need to take abuse that's how you got to get called a rusty gate that's how east coast god you are fucking terrible it's i can't just in front of
Starting point is 00:39:41 people call you fucking terrible that's not nice rusty a rusty which is worse then you and i'll know that i'm calling you fucking terrible but they won't know they won't know you know the rusty gate baseball swing yeah it's a it's a bad swing it's a gate it's a it's slow it's slow it's yeah it's not good no so uh but anything sweeping so he uh he said that that was it no more junior no more recendo all rusty from then on all rusty he said uh originally when he was in brooklyn he said when we moved to decalb avenue our apartment faced a small schoolyard it was new york city to the core the neighborhood had people from many different ethnic groups and practically every kid had some crazy nickname a lot of them are from different backgrounds and fucking pronounce each other's names.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Just, you're rusty, fuck it. I love it. There you go. Yeah, this is awesome. He says, we play stickball, handball, and ace, king, queen, and all the other city games. I don't know what ace, king, queen is. I'm assuming it has to do with cards, right?
Starting point is 00:40:38 I don't know, honestly. That could be like a 60s game, I'm not sure. It could be jacks, we don't know. That's what I mean, we have no idea. The playground wall was right downstairs alongside my building. We played several kinds of stickball. Our main game was fast pitching, where you threw the ball against a box chalked up on the wall.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You didn't run bases, but you would get hits according to the distance of the shot, which is like playing wiffle ball, basically. It's the same general thing. In the small court by the house, if the outfielders caught the ball off the opposite wall from the plate, you were then you were out. If you got really good, you could knock the ball against the school wall and have it return all the way back to the wall by my house. This was an automatic home run. Oh, you could crack it to where it bounced all the way back. It was an automatic home run.
Starting point is 00:41:20 That's a fun game. This sounds great. By the way, I'm like really into this. I want to play. Coming into your own. That sounds great. I want to play. Yeah. game this sounds great by the way i'm i'm like really into this i want a 13 year old coming into your own that sounds great i want to play yeah like this sounds awesome he says when when traffic was light we'd play stickball games in the street usually with bounce pitching the pitcher would fluke the ball to add some spin you'd kind of step up and hit it on one bounce and then run out the bases and uh in another game we'd go out in the street and just hit by
Starting point is 00:41:44 ourselves for distance to see how many sewers we could reach you know because there's a sewer see how many manhole lids we can get exactly how many how far down the street that is that's awesome uh yeah that's that's uh but all the kids were so into baseball but it's not like now where the kids it's like a specialized thing if some kid's into baseball it's like oh he he's on a traveling team he's in a baseball he does she's doing softball and he doesn't need ice cream no we don't give him any sweet he gets no sweets rusty uh but he back then just baseball was every kid's thing they just went outside and played baseball i mean football was not a big deal yet in america it really wasn't football wasn't basketball was like
Starting point is 00:42:22 people didn't even know it existed back then it It was all fucking white guys, for Christ's sake. You think the game was fun to watch? Bill Russell wasn't even in the league yet. The amount of people that are unrecognizable that were on the NFL 100 team. You know what I mean? The amount of people on there that I guarantee you the vast majority of America had no fucking clue who those people are. They've been watching NFL films since they were seven like us.
Starting point is 00:42:44 But from the 80s, you recognize all those names because that's when it started to get big. That's when it was huge. In the late 70s. It was the Giants-Colts. It was a 1959 championship game that blew it up. That was the Johnny Unitas with all that. But that was like football became like, oh, everyone took it.
Starting point is 00:42:59 What the hell was that all about? And then it kind of started. But like over the 60s, that's when it really started to get grip. And then by 70s it started to equal baseball and by the 80s it overtook it so the steelers and yeah all that shit going absolutely yeah steelers and cowboys and they had those the midwest steelers cowboys raiders in the 70s and the dolphins with the undefeated team and all that shit so when it takes old that's when it takes all plus they expanded so you know there was teams in late 60s they put teams in new orleans yeah new orleans The Dolphins with the undefeated team and all that shit. That's when it takes old. That's when it takes old. Plus, they expanded. So there was teams in late 60s.
Starting point is 00:43:27 They put teams in New Orleans. Put them all over the place. Yeah, New Orleans, Miami in the 60s. All the AFL teams came in. So yeah, he said he wasn't good at first. He's not a natural. Very much so. He said he had to really work hard at it.
Starting point is 00:43:41 He said, quote, To be honest, I wasn't too good when I started. I would strike out all the time. But I was very determined and kept hanging around with the big kids when they realized they couldn't chase me away they started to teach me the game i got good because i was competing with people who are older than me which is smart that's good yeah they just like that's obviously best competition you can play you're going to get better uh so he started playing uh little league after that though to play hardball and you know regular baseball and then continued into you know school leagues and stuff he played at new york vocational high school in jamaica new york which is in queens there uh that's
Starting point is 00:44:16 50 cents from there you go it's from a lot of people are from jamaica queens uh so yeah that's where he ends up in high school and out of of that, it's 17 years old. Okay. And this is back then. They didn't really. They did. But more kids got drafted out of high school than college, where it's kind of the reverse now because they figure teams are like, why should we take care of them for four years? Let fucking college get all that shit out of the way.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And then we'll take them. We don't have to pay them for four years. So here, though, it's different. They wanted kids young so they could teach them their way. So here, though, it's different. They wanted kids young so they could teach them their way. And June 7th, 1966 is the Major League Baseball Amateur Draft of 1966, which is awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:54 This is cool as shit. Really cool shit. First overall that year. Give me a guess, Jimmy. I wouldn't be able to guess anybody from the 70s. You're going to know who number two is anyway. Were they exposed even in the league yet? Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Steve Chilcott, number one. No. You know who he is? No. Actually, very interesting. Chilcott was chosen first overall, and you'll shit yourself when you hear who's second, because the Mets are stupid, basically. Drafted by them.
Starting point is 00:45:26 In 1967 was his second season in the minors. He hurt his shoulder while playing in the minors. And he was a base runner. He dove back toward the base and hurt his shoulder. Oh, no. So that ended his season. Nothing but injuries from then on. They ended up being released four years later in 1971.
Starting point is 00:45:46 He signed with the Yankees, and he was released after only a few games in the minors uh he never played higher than triple a ouch he is one of only three number one draft picks that are not playing anymore that have never played a major league game only three three in the history of the major leagues mark appell uh in 2013 because i think he retired now and you know who the other is no brian taylor oh no our guy here that we did we covered a while Major leagues. Mark Appel in 2013, because I think he retired now. And you know who the other is? No. Brian Taylor. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Our guy here that we did. We covered a while back there. Holy shit. Brian fucking Taylor. Yep. That's the three guys in history that have been drafted. Number one overall, never played a major league game. Never played. Never played a game.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Number two overall, this makes it hurt even more if you're the Mets. Yeah. Reggie Jackson. Oh, no. Oh, no. Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer who drove the early 70s A's dynasty for years. Top 10 of all time.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Probably top five of all time. 565 home runs and, you know, also most strikeouts. Mr. October. Mr. fucking October. The straw that stirs the drink himself. Reggie Jackson. The number two pick behind that dick. Behind that guy who never played a game.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Nice pick, Mets. And they knew they picked him out of Arizona State. He had played college. Where did he go to first? Did he go to the Yankees first? No, no. The A's. They were the Kansas City A's. He moved to Oakland. He was on Oakland. And then he ended up with the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:47:02 There was a transitional. Who the hell was he with? Baltimore. He was with Baltimore for half a season. There was a transitional. Who the hell was he with? Baltimore. He was with Baltimore for half a season. The Orioles? I think the A's traded him to Baltimore to play out his contract. Then he was a free agent. And then the Yankees signed him. Got him. And he went from there.
Starting point is 00:47:15 He had the Angels. Yeah. Naked gun. Everyone should know that. Yeah. From Must Kill the Queen. So the baseball bat? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 That's weird. Ken Brett is number four overall who is george brett's brother claude lemieux i know that for a fact ken brett is definitely george brett's brother no he's definitely george brett's brother uh tom greave who's a major league executive now ben greaves father the next player a lot of guys like that a lot of managers in here and shit like that uh that makes sense in the 60s. Yeah, guys coming from that era. Dusty Baker.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Johnny Oates, 19. He's the old Ranger manager there. Steve Garvey, who was a future All-Star. He was drafted by the Twins that year. Cliff Johnson, he's like one of the best pinch hitters of all time. Cliff Johnson, the Astros. Dave Cash, Charlie Huff. You remember Charlie Huff?
Starting point is 00:48:04 No. time cliff johnson the astros uh dave cash charlie huff you remember charlie huff no he's one of the guys reggie reggie jackson hit some of his uh three home runs in the world series game off of charlie knuckleballer yeah ken forsh uh bill russell not that bill russell uh ken stabler actually that ken stabler actually yes drafted by the yankees got a hell of an arm and uh yeah didn't play that though ron Ron Say, the penguin there. Guys like that. Kurt Bavacqua, the bubble gum blowing champion. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:31 Yeah, remember that baseball? There's an old baseball card where he's got a bubble that's bigger than his head. Really? That is genius. Yeah, Topps did a ball player bubble gum blowing contest. Great. And so he was the winner with a bubble bigger than his head. Or at least we think, because we don't know who's behind that bubble.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It could have been anybody behind there. So that's all there. In the 54th round, that's how many rounds they had. There was even more. But in the 54th round, pick 811. 811. They pick a whole new league every year? Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Jesus Christ. Back then, there new league every year? Yes. Jesus Christ. Back then, there were so many minor league teams. They had each, especially like the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Cardinals. They had 20, 25 minor league teams that they would distribute these guys to. They needed bodies. Yeah. But was that a big industry of money making for that? Not really, but every small town had its own little team and it would be operation
Starting point is 00:49:27 so much money into that yes and no because the the way their work is like they're supported the minor there's actually a lawsuit going on right now they're trying to avoid a lawsuit between minor league baseball and major league baseball going on right now yeah the major leagues don't want basically they don't want to support the minor league financially they want them to just fuck you guys, struggle financially, then give us finished products, please. We want you to be college football. Exactly, which isn't really, that's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Baseball isn't college football. It's just a different thing. You shouldn't get to benefit from our guys if we're doing all the hard work. And how about pump some money into this, and then you can do it. Get us better facilities. Get us better stadiums. It depends on the team, because they're privately owned, but then they're also hooked up to this team, so they have to.
Starting point is 00:50:13 It's weird, because if you own a minor league team, you're at the mercy of the major league team. Let's say you have a guy who everybody wants to come see. When the major league team calls him up, he's just gone. That's it. That's the end of your gravy train. Yeah, that's all. So it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Anyway, so he's drafted gone that's it that's the end of your gravy train yeah that's all so it's interesting anyway so uh he's drafted pick 811 rusty is drafted by the new york yankees so is that right absolutely 1966 by the way mickey mantel still playing in 1966 so depending on how much longer mickey mantel plays he's got a chance to play or work your ass off, Rusty. Exactly. 1967 to 1970, he does just that. He appears in 1967. He plays for Fort Lauderdale. He plays for Greensboro, Oneonta, Johnson City, all these different teams. And these are all A-ball teams. That's how many teams the Yankees had. Single A?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Single A. They had two A's, an A an a minus league and a rookie league that he played in they had and they probably had more those are just crazy those are just single a's and then the doubles and triples it's ridiculous so yeah he plays all through here uh he doesn't do too terrible here at 67 as well uh 75 games 234 plate appearances he hits 247 which isn't terrible 351 slugging which isn't bad either yeah he's 18 years old for christ's sake i mean he's barely he's just left home uh 57 walks 42 strikeouts so more more walks than strikeouts as a kid yeah that's promising hell yeah they're looking at him going that's not too goddamn shabby. Not too bad at all. Steal six bases.
Starting point is 00:51:47 68 plays mainly for Fort Lauderdale. He hits 229 that year. Not so great. 126 games he plays in. 417 plate appearances. The next year, 69, he plays for Kingston. And that's single A again. These are all more single A teams he's playing for, for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:52:06 139 games. He hits 270 that year, which is promising. 13 home runs, 11 triples. He's got speed. Shit. 26 doubles, 49 ribbies, 14 steals. That's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I mean, this is like, oh, they're starting to look at this kid as something. Unfortunately, in 68, Mickey Mantle retires at the end of the season. So he's never going to get to play with Mickey Mantle. God damn it. Regardless here. 1970, he's playing for the Manchester Yankees in AA. And he tears a knee ligament that year. Misses a good chunk of the 1970 season with a torn knee ligament. He only appeared in 41 games, and he bats.244 that year.
Starting point is 00:52:46 So that was just an injury plague, a nightmare for him. Still, though, in 71, they promote him to AAA in 71. He plays for the Syracuse Chiefs, where this is when he comes into his own. In 133 games, he hits.290 with 19 home runs. That's not bad. That's something. That's like, whoa, they're looking at him like something. So he ends up making his MLB debut the next year here in 71.
Starting point is 00:53:16 71, he breaks his wrist early in the year in the minors, which sucks because this was his year. But he worked hard. He said, quote, I used a stickball bat to help me regain my swing speed and strength. Still, I definitely lost some of my power, and it affected both my hitting and throwing. And a wrist injury like that, too. That's where everything, it's so fragile. Now, if you break your wrist, there's a lot of rehab and different surgeries, and they're very careful with it back then i'm not sure how i don't think they were that particular
Starting point is 00:53:49 with it so a wrist can really fuck up your swing baseball a swing especially power yeah your wrists are all i mean you ever seen hank aaron's forearms and wrists they're like holy shit he could crush your skull with those things that's why he could hit home runs. It's all in his wrists. I watched Reggie Sanders get a forearm tattoo, and it took them longer to do his forearm tattoo than it took to do my armpit to my hip on my whole side. And he got a forearm tattoo. I was done, and he's like, I'll see you around. I'm telling you, any great major league league hitter look at their forearm because the way
Starting point is 00:54:26 they can manipulate that bat around it's their forearms are like popeye there's a lot of landscape there a lot of landscape so uh the 1971 yankees he's going to end up being called up uh makes his major league debut september 20th 1971 which is late in the season this team that i mean it's past the yankee glory days they haven't been to the world series in a while they're on the downswing the stadium's falling apart they're about to uh remodel the stadium in three years uh the cbs owns the team right now and steinbrenner hasn't even bought it yet and they just want to sell it it's this is the bad times for the Yankees. Yeah, this stinks.
Starting point is 00:55:06 This is a total Gardetto season. All Gardetto this season. But this Thurman Munson was up this year. This was like his second year. Bobby Mercer, Roy White, Gene Michael, who was their general manager for a while later on. Felipe Alou, we all know, is on this team. I mean, there's a lot of guys like Ron Swoboda, Ron Bloomberg. Remember that name?
Starting point is 00:55:28 He'll come up later. A lot of names. A lot of names. Mel Stottlemyre is on this team. He was the pitching coach forever. Also, a couple guys named Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich. Have you ever heard of these guys? You never heard of Fritz peterson and mike
Starting point is 00:55:45 keckich okay are they fucking train robbers that's what they sound like crazier than that okay if you've if you're not if you're a baseball fan you've probably heard this story and whatever tune it out for a second but if you're not a baseball fan this fucking happened yeah this is the 70s i think it was four years later 74 or 75. Fritz and Mike decided they were good friends, best friends. They decided to swap. Wives. Not just wives. Whole lives.
Starting point is 00:56:12 What? Houses, dogs, kids, everything. What are you? Not just for a night? No, no, no, no, no. Forever. They literally traded lives. I like your life.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Do you like mine? Yeah. Why don't I take yours? That's it. They literally traded lives. I like your life. Do you like mine? Yeah. Why don't I take yours? That's it. They literally traded wives, dogs. They're fucking dogs they traded. I get wives and kids, but your dog? He doesn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:56:33 He's got to think that's really weird. You're absolutely right. Train robbing is much more- Less weird? Yeah. Than trading your life with someone? That is bizarre. This isn't a little swinging.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Like, whatever. It's the 70s. This is, we'll trade lives. And one of them turned out happily ever after. They loved it. The other one, after like a month, decided they didn't want to do it anymore. Wow. And said, hey, never mind.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And the other couple was like, no, no, we're happy. We're good. And that was that. So they ended up breaking up. It destroyed his life. They were thought of as weirdos in baseball. Yeah. One of them ended up in Japan playing because it ruined them.
Starting point is 00:57:10 They had a press. It's the original wife swap. That TV you've seen that yeah yeah but it's only for like two days and they're like forever back they just decided to do it not to mention they didn't do it like on the sly and people found out they held a press conference to tell everyone they were doing it literally at a joint press conference what the people like why are two relief pitchers like having a goddamn press guy like what do they have cancer or something everyone's like what's going on and then they announced that everyone was like did that just happen i kind of wish the what a weird story the news was cancer this is so weird i can't wrap my head around this shit i can't absorb cancer i can understand that my head around this shit. I can't absorb cancer. I can understand that that happens. My grandfather had cancer. This doesn't happen. My grandfather didn't swap wives and dogs and kids with his neighbor, with his guy,
Starting point is 00:57:51 buddy from the factory. That didn't happen. My grandfather, the guy in the next barber chair didn't, you know. This hasn't happened since. No, not publicly. No one announced this, maybe because it worked out so poorly. Right. Well, for half of them, it worked out.
Starting point is 00:58:05 For the other half, they worked out great. Yeah, 50-50. I think they were still together like 40 years later. Unbelievable. So anyway, September 20th, 1971 is when old Rusty Torres makes his debut. So it's a weird team is what I'm getting at. It's against Baltimore. This is a far cry from Babe Ruth.
Starting point is 00:58:23 This is weird. Yeah. It's weird. This is not Roger Mar from Babe Ruth. This is weird. Yeah. It's weird. This is not Roger Maris. No. We're not hurting anybody else. It might be a little weird on the kids, but I mean, other than that, it's fine. Do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:58:33 It's just a bizarre life. It's just strange. Yeah. If they just said, hey, we switched wives, as bizarre as that is, don't get me wrong, that is truly fucking bizarre. As bizarre as that is, it's almost like okay i guess you just whatever i don't know what you're what you're into sexually or whatever but to be like this is my dog now right that guy's daughter is now my daughter it's so weird that's fucked up it's so
Starting point is 00:58:57 fucking he's not gonna see you anymore i'm your dad now yeah you know he's uncle mike now that's how it is remember how i was uncle fritz now i'm dad and he's Uncle Mike now. That's how it is. That's Uncle Mike. Remember how I was Uncle Fritz? Now I'm Dad, and he's Uncle Mike. What? Weird shit. An old shadow over there. The dog is now mine. So, ten days after his Major League debut, where he had a single in four at-bats against Baltimore, ten days later, on September 30, 1971, is the Washington Senators' last game in Washington.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Really? Yeah, last game. This is also his 23rd birthday, Rusty's birthday here. The Senators were leading 7-5 with two outs in the top of the ninth when Horace Clark steps up to the plate for the Yankees. Now Torres is on deck here, and he already had two hits, including a home run this day. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:59:44 Senators fans stormed the field pissed off they were leaving pissed off or whatever and causing the game to be forfeited to new york really yeah they stormed the field the game was over that was it don't leave us well now it's over they were winning and now they lost that game wow uh yeah so he says torres says quote bobby mercer hits a ground ball gets thrown out out at first. They thought it was three outs. It was only two outs. That's what it was. They thought it was three, so they just rushed the field to start tearing it apart.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Wow. Souvenirs and shit, because the Senators have been there forever. That's unreal. The game wasn't over. It's like tearing down the goalposts at Lambeau Field. Hey, there's a minute 20 left. There's enough time for a two-minute drill, guys. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:00:25 It would be like in the Super Bowl with a minute 30 left. They still got for a two minute drill guys what are we doing it would be like yeah in the super bowl with like a minute they still got 30 left you idiots tear the goal post down san francisco's up by three so it's over so uh rusty continues quote and they rushed us they rushed the field they took dirt people were taking dirt taking the bases they were tearing up seats it was unbelievable that was a real scary experience thankfully none of us got hurt yeah that's rough man that's crazy so and he only has 26 at bats this year but he hits 385 that's great 26 at bats with two home runs yeah he looks promising he's only up for you know 10 days and he looks promising here uh 71 the yankees finished 82 and 80 which is fourth and the it's's not good. They were pretty lame here.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Not too great. So September 29th, 71, the day before this, though, he won an award in the minor leagues for that year. He won International League Rookie of the Year. So it was the first AAA here. He captured 13 of the 23 votes for that. And Carlton Fisk was also up for the running for that wow long time catcher of the white socks and red socks um i saw a uh a baseball card of his in a in an antique shop in yeah in fucking manchester i almost bought that for you i was like fucking great james would
Starting point is 01:01:36 have liked that i love carl i'll remember that next time i see shit like that yeah oh fuck yeah it was like 10 bucks oh it's great so cheap i love old baseball everything like that up there is so cheap that That's great. Old baseball shit and antique shops. Yeah, we found them all. They don't know what they've got. It was in an old lady's attic. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:51 She was a fucking lush, that one, I'll tell you. Smells like Gaudettos. That's got to make it less valuable. The whole house is filled with Gaudettos. It's just so weird. So he batted 290 in 133 games, 25 doubles, 7 triples, 19 home runs, 71 runs in the minors that year. And so 1972, he said that the next year he comes up, and this year they're looking at him as like an opening day starter. Not a starter, but like on the team.
Starting point is 01:02:18 The coaches called his attitude completely professional. They said that the next thing that makes you take notice of him is his arm. They said he has a really great arm from the outfield and they're very interested in that he's a switch hitter also which is it's huge mickey mannell's his idol so mickey mannell caused a lot of switch hitting it's weird you don't see as many switch hitters now right it's it's a dying art switch hitting because now they want you to be so specialized they're like well you know they don't want you to do things like that but back then there was so many switch hitters kids would come up idolizing guys that were switch hitters and they would be switch hitters it's a it's kind
Starting point is 01:02:52 of sad that there's no i love a switch so cool it's fucking cool as shit last one i think i saw it was danny bautista was a switch hitter wasn't it i don't remember the last i mean there's been a few great ones like bernie williams is a great switch hitter he would you know he hit won a batting title switch hitting. So, I mean, you could do it. But they want kids to be so specialized on your swing that if you switch and go to the other side, you're messing it all up. Now we've got to refine all that shit again. Yeah, it's so weird now.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So, yeah, they're looking him up. Ralph Houck, who was the manager at the time, he says, I don't consider him a platoon player. He's a boy who should eventually play every day. Wow. So, yeah, they're not even looking at him as a side guy. Like, he's going to be a starter. He said he's thrilled with it. He's just, you know, he said he's not overwhelmed by it, but he's so excited about it.
Starting point is 01:03:40 He said that, you know, he's going to play center field or he's going to play right field for the Yankees yeah yeah he's like this is crazy like i'm gonna play rusty you did it yeah right field for the yankees and he says uh they ask him what he thinks about it about the you know the lineage of yankee right fielders that he's gonna join and he thinks about and he says quote maris bauer that's as far back as i go and they said what about Babe Ruth yeah he played right field Torres said quote I didn't even know that so okay didn't know babe you didn't know you're standing where Babe Ruth stood for like 15 years the same grass literally in the same grass you should see the indentation under his fat feet you should know the size of his shoes absolutely but yeah he says he uh he even got to meet mickey mannell for the first time he came to spring training he got to
Starting point is 01:04:32 meet mickey mannell he was jacked he said quote i said hello that was it what can you say he said you he put his uh his fingers together small and he says you feel this big next to him yeah he's fucking mickey mannell you're a rookie but that's your favorite guy you've been watching you you don't even say there was once that i shouted your name and then you waved to me and i thought it was for me alone mickey would have went are you playing for your team what now oh shit you need me to sign a ball for you young man there's billy mara we're gonna go have some cocktails that's what billy that's what schmicky mannell would have said so 72 the yanks are 79 and 76 that year uh he plays in 80 games so that's half the season platoons 199 uh play at bats he only hits 211 with uh two home three home runs 13 rbi yeah so he's not playing every day, but you want more from him.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Sure. You want him to step up. He makes $13,500 that year. Hell yeah. Which, I did the calculation, for inflation in 2019 money, that is $82,568.65. Wow, from 75? From 72. 72?
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah. $13,000 then is almost 90 grand today 82 grand wow 82 and a half grace are you serious he's met mickey mannell he made 82 000 he played where babe root stood without even knowing it grace that's it it only goes downhill from here that's awesome so november 27th 1972 he is traded by Yankees, which is kind of a blow for him. Traded with John Ellis, who had a couple of good seasons with Cleveland and then kind of petered out. And a guy named Jerry Kennedy, who was done playing after the 73 season. And a guy named Charlie Spikes, who's a 246 lifetime average.
Starting point is 01:06:22 They trade all of these guys to Cleveland, going from the Yankees to the Indians back then. Yikes, playing at that terrible stadium they had. For Jerry Moses, who was a former All-Star, but he was about done. And Greg Nettles, who became a huge part of the Yankee cog of the machinery for those late 70s World Series teams. He became Greg Nettles. Greg Nettles,tles yeah he's number nine the the you know it's weird it's retired roger maris but he wore it too because it wasn't retired yet when he wore it so yeah he was number nine also yeah that's strange so uh he wore that
Starting point is 01:06:56 greg nettles a great amazing defensive third baseman greg nettles wore that after maris i would just be like they're retired because of me yeah Yeah, it's me. I mean, obviously. But I mean, he was on those 70s teams. Amazing defensive third baseman. Oh, great. And had one of the coolest fights with George Brett you ever want to see in third base. You too, but it's great.
Starting point is 01:07:13 George Brett's a tough guy. Oh, they slide in and they just, he slides in and they just start brawling. It's like they had a scheduled brawl. Like, you slide in, pop up, and we start throwing punches. Hey, listen. He left like a note in
Starting point is 01:07:25 his locker uh if you want to fight uh check yes by sliding in yeah greg nettles did something to him that was so dirty that thurman munson came over to like lay on top of brett to protect him because he was because he was afraid they're gonna kill him yeah and they were good friends greg nettles and george brett really yeah george brett was like i don't know why that happened it Because he was afraid. They're going to kill him, Greg. They're going to kill him, yeah. And they were good friends, Greg Nettles and George Brett. Really? Yeah. George Brett was like, I don't know why that happened. It was weird. It was a rivalry with the team is why. Probably became friends after that because that's what guys do.
Starting point is 01:07:51 No, before that. They were close friends. They just started fighting because of the rivalry. They said, that's how weird the rivalry was. We were good buddies and we were throwing punches at each other for no reason. We hadn't even been in an argument. How long did Thurman Munson play before he crashed? I want to say nine years.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Quite a while. Yes, 70 was his rookie year, I think. Long enough for people to have fallen fucking low. Oh, he was the captain of the Yankees. He was the last captain until Don Mattingly, and then they put him in. And that's why the Yankee captain thing was a big deal. Yeah, because of Thurman Munson. After Mattingly, there was no captain until they made Derek Jeter captain
Starting point is 01:08:22 like eight years after Mattingly retired. So it's like you have to be an icon to be the captain of the Yankees. Stick around New York a while. It's a weird thing. Yeah, it's a weird position with them. It's strange. He said, though, they asked him about the trade. He said that he wasn't excited. He thought he was
Starting point is 01:08:38 the right fielder of the future of the Yankees. That's what they told him. That's what he thought. He said, quote, I felt bad about the trade, but I wasn't that upset. When you're traded, you have to look forward to doing the job with your new team which is what you have to say in the press here um he seems more relaxed um he is uh oscar gamble with the best afro in the history of baseball he's the guy with the hat with the afro sticking out of it why do i know that name yeah because you love his card yeah he played for the indians at this point too and this uh rusty beat oscar gamble out for a starting spot in right field he says quote the big difference is that i wasn't in the opening lineup with the yankees last year
Starting point is 01:09:15 and he says and i'm in the opening lineup here so he feels like he's he's on a you know he's on cleveland so uh he says uh you know he he could be. He's upset, though. He can try to couch it all he wants. He's a little bit upset. I mean, he can be mad at being traded to Cleveland. That's understandable. Anybody would be. But what he can't be mad at is the sales.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Oh, my God. The sales. How much can you buy Cleveland for? If you happen to be. Well, this paper is from Passaic, New Jersey. If you happen to be in Passaic, New Jersey. If you happen to be in Passaic, New Jersey in April of 1973, you are in luck because there are some sales that you can get a hold of. I found a 72 Vega, 72 Chevy Vega hatchback coupe, one owner, used $1.
Starting point is 01:10:00 $1,695. Oh! $1,695. That's too much. It's a year old car, mind you, by the way. A 70 Camaro, which is a fucking bitchin' car. Yeah, yeah. This car right now would be worth $40,000 probably if it was done nice.
Starting point is 01:10:16 70 Camaro Sport Coupe Air Turbo. Hell yeah. Dude, this is the top of the line. That's the shit. One owner, $2,195. Wow. $2,195. Solid roof, T-tops?
Starting point is 01:10:29 What is that? That's a solid roof. Coupe. It's a coupe. Okay, yeah. Sport coupe. Two-door, yeah. That's a nice car.
Starting point is 01:10:34 A turbo. That thing was fast and awesome. That thing was fun. A 70 Kingswood wagon. That's what you want. I see wood paneling on that bitch. Turbo also. What?
Starting point is 01:10:44 Air conditioning turbo, $2,095. 70 Ford wagon, extra clean, one owner, $1,995. Okay. 70 Volkswagen, two-door, cream puff. Is it a bug? I think so. It's a 70 Volkswagen. They didn't have a lot of models.
Starting point is 01:10:58 They had a bus and a bug. They got the notchback, the fastback. They're all like sedans, though. 1.13, does that mean anything? 1.13. It says 1.13, and then it says two-door, the fastback. They're all like sedans, though. 113. Does that mean anything? 113. It says 113, and then it says two-door R&H. New tires.
Starting point is 01:11:12 R&H? Right-hand? Oh, wait, no. R&H. R&H. I don't know what any of those are. Cream puff, exclamation point. Yeah, it's cream.
Starting point is 01:11:20 $1,395. Okay. 69 Ford Wagon, $1,695. 68 Cadillac Eldorado, full power, air, awesome, $1,995. Wow. That is awesome. 68 Sedan DeVille Cadillac, air, power, everything, one owner, $1,995, 68 Ford LTD, $1,395. That's a piece of shit. That's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:11:43 67 Buick, $5.95. 65 Cadillac sedan. Now you're talking. $795. What a deal. What a deal. Get yourself on down to Irwin Used Car in Passaic, New Jersey. Or, when you're done with that, get in your car and drive on over to Nat's Oyster Bar over there in Passaic.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Where there's, quote, there's something fishy going on. Oh, no the hell is this place? Nat's Oyster Bar. Yes. Over there in Passaic, where there's, quote, there's something fishy going on. Oh, no. That is a terrible. Not for food. That is their, Jimmy, that's their slogan. It's in bold letters on their advertisement. Oh, you don't do that for food. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:18 You bet your sweet filet there is that says after that. Oh, my God. What a sure dinner. Like the Jersey Shore. Yeah. Where? Nat's Oyster Bar in Clifton, New Jersey. When? Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday nights. That's the only time they're open. What do I get?
Starting point is 01:12:30 It says, shrimp or clam cocktail, our famous Manhattan clam chowder, and all the salad you can eat, and four rock lobster tails, potato and vegetable, coffee, tea, milk, and dessert. $5.95. That's a deal.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Four lobster tails, full meal. Six bucks. Get jerked off under the table, six bucks. But they did it like a birthday invitation. What? When? Where? What time?
Starting point is 01:12:55 What do I bring? Bring a swimsuit. There's more here. Does that price include everything? Yeah. It says, yes. And even the doggy bag if you are if you can't finish it all hey that's great but my wife doesn't like flounder well you can let
Starting point is 01:13:10 her choose from over 100 seafood and non-seafood entrees or leave her home and bring your girlfriend what it says this get the fuck out jimmy leave her home or leave her home and bring your girlfriend plus all the wine and beer you can bring it's oh it's a byob fuck this place rules byob we won't tell your wife dude it's a byob cheat shack this place is fucking crazy this place is great what the hell is going on six dollars bring your neighbor's wife. I'm surprised they don't provide the girl for you. An extra 30 cents. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:13:52 I like that they're like, it includes the doggy bag. What place is charging you for a bag to go? You want to take it with you, that's going to be extra. This is not even like advertising maybe women are reading this. You might cut that out and put it on your table and be like, this is where I'll be on Thursday. This is not even like advertising. Maybe women are reading this. This is only for guys. You might cut that out and put it on your table and be like, this is where I'll be on Thursday. Well, what about us? Read the ad.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Did you read it? You don't like flounder. Remember when you were allergic to flounder? Oh, Christ. By the way, this episode's for us. This is a for us episode. We're having fun. You don't like any shit.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Sorry. Next week, be all crazy and cry more. But there's a lot of crime coming up here, by the way. So also rooms for rent. I found here quickly. Clifton in Clifton, New Jersey. Three and a half rooms and bath, heat and hot water supplied there. It doesn't say how much it is.
Starting point is 01:14:42 None of these say how much they are. Furnished room. Gentlemen preferred. Yeah. Lakeview Avenue. Gentlemen preferred there. It doesn't say how much it is. None of these say how much they are. Furnished room, gentlemen preferred. Lakeview Avenue, gentlemen preferred. There, it tells you who they want. Man preferred. Three furnished rooms available. Nurses preferred. That's very specific. That's scary. I like that little outfit.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I like your wig. That's creepy. Rapables preferred. You're like cheerleaders preferred. You know what I mean? Like nuns preferred. I don't know Yeah, like cheerleaders preferred. You know what I mean? Like nuns preferred. I don't know why, but they turn me on. That's me because I can't see nothing. I'm like, what's under there?
Starting point is 01:15:12 Come on, sister. You know what I mean? Obtologist preferred. I got a thing. Yeah, I got a thing. I need a podiatrist. Podiatrist preferred. My foot's been bothered.
Starting point is 01:15:22 He just rents it out to whoever he's into that week um here's one one furnished room nice area respectable gentleman preferred that's for you they're not not for us no scumbags no no no uh what is this a respectable gentleman preferred kitchen privileges mature woman hell yeah for this one oh my we want someone book around. Yeah, it's a big one that goes down our legs. Wow, this is fucking awesome. What do we have here? Gentleman preferred. One furnished room.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Woman preferred. $40 a week. It's only a room. That seems like a lot here. $40 a week. That is what? $160 a month? Yeah, it's a lot.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Yeah, it seems cheap. Houses for rent. I found two bedrooms, living room, eating kitchen, screened in rear porch full basement and garage excellent condition just 325 a month wow that's amazing yeah that's great four and a half room bungalow full basement very clean 240 a month and this is rent this is rent yeah a farmhouse in pennsylvania 105 a month all utilities included retired couple preferred must have knowledge of farming must have shit i was with you till there oh my god that's that's hilarious and then sales are great sales are great that's the sales this is awesome i can't get enough of that i wanted i would love to do a show just sales we've talked about dates and sales we've talked about i don't know if anybody's interested in we've discussed doing a show kind of based around old newspapers and things like
Starting point is 01:16:48 that with different weird things and sales and kind of going through it and i think it would be just absolutely fucking great and hilarious it's fascinating to find out that yeah that's what shit cost granted the money the income was much different but it's fascinating we did the you know the inflation and everything but still it's just crazy to think about but think about 13 000 times what equals 83 i don't know seven well we'll go with seven you multiply 1300 by seven that's still cars are way more today way more than that plus you have to imagine they had nothing else to spend money on back then you didn't have a million bills back then you had seafood was only seven bucks i mean six bucks for for everything so i mean that's what it was like you didn't have a cell phone bill and this and a wi-fi and internet for every cable and fucking i mean go
Starting point is 01:17:38 through all the different nitpicky hulu netflix water was drinkable so you didn't have to go buy fucking cases of that shit go through your ten dollars go through all of your monthly fees none of those existed back then except a phone bill an electric bill a water bill and a mortgage payment yeah that's it that's all they fucking had so it's a totally different different world uh back then you had like six checks you had to cut each month yeah today you got today you got six people reaching in your pocket right into your bank account. Just automatically pulling everything out of your bank account. Every couple of weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:11 So anyway, he ends up playing for Cleveland here on this team. Dave Duncan, Chris Chambliss, Buddy Bell, who was there for years. I had a Buddy Bell glove for some reason. No, my cousin Jesse had one. A Buddy Bell. We have a Buddy Bell glove. What's wrong with you? You're the only guy that likes him.
Starting point is 01:18:24 No, he didn't even like him. He just had a glove, and I was like, Buddy Bell? That's who you got? He was like old. I think he was playing in 72. This is like 88 I'm talking about. He had a Buddy Bell. What do you have that for?
Starting point is 01:18:36 And Oscar Gamble, all these guys. You might want to sell that to Buddy Bell. He might want that nostalgia. Jess, if you're out there, I don't know if you still have your Buddy Bell glove, but if you do, he might want it. Find him on Twitter. He wants it. He was chunky, though if you're out there, I don't know if you still have your buddy bell glove, but if you do. Find him on Twitter. He wants it.
Starting point is 01:18:47 He was chunky, though. He might be dead. We don't know. So, well, he might have gone the way of Big Pun. You never know. So, 1973, Cleveland sucks. They are 71 and 91. Not good at all.
Starting point is 01:19:01 He says, though, he actually came and was owned this year as a person he says believe it or not after i was with the yankees and went through all the experience of being a babysitter for the latino yankees all those years and being an interpreter for all the spanish speaking ball players when i was traded to cleveland i've kind of rebelled against the system that's what they used to do back then a guy like him he wouldn't even be on the team necessarily for his baseball ability just to talk to the guys that and keep an eye on them yeah and like literally to
Starting point is 01:19:31 report back to the team what the fuck they're doing and translate between them because he was you know he knew English and shit like that there was guys and they there was really weird like they didn't trust those guys because they didn't speak English and I was like oh they play baseball the fuck do you care so it was weird. It does hurt a little bit, though.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Like, even if they're doing well, knowing that they're saying some shit behind your back in their own language, that sucks. That hurts. Well, yeah, you don't want anybody talking shit about you. That's what I mean. But you know they're doing it. Oh, yeah. Everybody is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:58 He says, when I got traded to Cleveland, I was traded for Greg Nettles in the winter of 72, then got to Cleveland in 73, and they called me Rusty. They called me Rusty. I was sitting on the bench still and i got angry i got angry about the situation and i rebelled against the whole system and made them call me rosendo really yeah he's like fuck this shit he put a he was tired of it he's like you're not gonna make me translate and be like you're you know you're overseer for your and then call me fucking terrible Latino field hands and then you know what I mean and then you're gonna call me rusty on top of it no I'm not Toby
Starting point is 01:20:32 fuck you fucking bitch dicks motherfucker junior junior Puerto Rico fucker junior junior call me junior puerto rico so he was tired of that shit good for him fucking stand up well yeah there's nothing
Starting point is 01:20:55 worse than getting that that's the worst that nickname that you're only your friends call you and then somebody that you don't know these people this guy wasn't even there when i ended up being respectful to you too you're like you're calling me that shit and be disrespectful to eat shit yeah you're calling me rusty like like he was calling me right yeah you don't get to do that yeah you're not in my neighborhood i'm not playing stickball together beat your ass with a stickball back i got one too now uh ken aspermonte uh who's the manager came up to him he said and said quote why did you tell them to stop calling you Rusty? Rusty Torres, that's a great baseball name.
Starting point is 01:21:30 That's what the manager said, which it is a good baseball name, like an old time. They didn't think of a sexual move back then. It was Rusty Staub. Rusty sounded like a redheaded guy. It's four syllables. Yeah, Rusty Torres. It's good. I said, if I can't play regularly in the major leagues and I'm not good enough to play in the major leagues every day,
Starting point is 01:21:47 I want to be called by my real name. At least I have my heritage. At least I have at least my name that I can use. So they started calling me Rosendo. They were like, well, you're not going to play every day. So have a seat, Rosendo. Enjoy. How's the game looking from the bench, Rosendo?
Starting point is 01:22:02 Sit down, Junior. Yeah, sit down. Then he said, and then years later, I just gave up fighting i just withdrew i still fought management insisting about being called resendo but i withdrew i withdrew to the dugout he just didn't care anymore he just got beat down june 4th 1973 is the second forfeited game he's involved in um Okay, he's got a weird... This is not the last one either. This is Tencent Beer Night. Have you heard of Tencent Beer Night? No, but I get it.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Okay, Tencent Beer Night was in Cleveland. Bill... I think it was... Wasn't Bill Veck the owner there, I want to say? Or that might be the later one with the white socks. Either way, he... It's Tencent. They decided to give people beer for ten cents.
Starting point is 01:22:43 In Cleveland. An unlimited amount. That's fucking crazy. Where you have reason to drink. beer for 10 cents in Cleveland, an unlimited amount. It's fucking great where you have reason to drink because you live there. All the reasons you smell jizz and burning river. I'm going to fucking get a hammer. This is disgusting. I'd rather smell Gardetto's. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Now, six days earlier, there was a big brawl between the two teams in Texas. This is Texas and Cleveland. Got a big brawl. And so the press had been working up that they're going to play a week later and it's going to be a big deal. On 10 cent beer night. As all comes together, happens to be unfortunately for everyone on 10 cent beer night. So as you can, do I need to even tell you what happened?
Starting point is 01:23:19 Rusty says, quote, I blame the press for this one between the Rangers and the Indians. So they decided to make it 10 cent beer night in Cleveland on June 4th. I show up at the stadium early like I always do. People are out at the stadium already at five o'clock and they're having 10 cent beers, man. Forget about it. Yeah. He said by the ninth inning. Imagine how liquored up these fucking people were.
Starting point is 01:23:41 This is probably where civilians started wearing cargo pants and they just filled them with dimes. Dimes! Ten cents. I don't care inflation or not. That's cheap beer. Even eight, that's 80 cent beer night. If you had that now, there'd be fucking riots. People would kill each other, throw each
Starting point is 01:24:00 other off the upper deck. They would! They'd dress somebody up like Trump and burn them in effigy or something off the upper deck it would be fucking crazy like there'd be when there are dollar beers at places it's bad it's insanity yeah it's an it's a nightmare so a guy milt wilcox was the pitcher for cleveland in the eighth inning and uh there had been a guy throwing at each other from the bad blood so this guy retaliates from an earlier beaning by throwing behind one of the Rangers' heads. So this guy ends up bunting, and as Wilcox retrieves the ball and tried to tag him,
Starting point is 01:24:34 the guy forearmed him to throw it at him. So it's one of those. It's a chippy game. So the Indians' first baseman, John Ellis, went and punched Randall, the baseroller, which resulted in a brawl. And while this is going on, the fans start throwing beers on the Indians players. It was 10 cents.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Who gives a shit? Yeah. Our Texas fans are pouring on the Indians. There's a few Texas fans there. That was the last brawl that happened. That was the first brawl, not this one. That wasn't 10-cent beer night. Got it.
Starting point is 01:25:04 That's the last brawl. They threw a was the first brawl, not this one. That wasn't Tencent Beer Night. Got it. That's the last brawl. They threw a few beers, the Texas fans, on Cleveland. Now, Texas had a 5-1 lead in Cleveland on Tencent Beer Night. And continually, people are getting drunker and drunker. A woman ran into the on-deck circle, flashed her tits, tried to kiss the umpire. Awesome. A naked man streaked. This was a good one, too.
Starting point is 01:25:24 They couldn't catch him for a while i like when that happens he ran onto the field they chased him around he ended up sliding into second base naked which would hurt that hurts but it's worth it's pretty impressive a father and son ran into the outfield and mooned the bleachers. Together. Three times this happened. That's togetherness. Oh, there's more. There's more. Three events of spectators on the field so far. All nudity.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Inning two. Yeah. All sexual registered sex offenders now. Right. Made it a father-son experience. Yeah, come on. Look at how mooned that son of a bitch. Let's go get...
Starting point is 01:26:02 How hammered are you? Let's go have to move tomorrow. We're going to be in the paper. So, Leron Lee of Cleveland, it's a line drive that Fergie Jenkins of the Rangers, it hits him in the stomach. Okay. He falls down. So, the fans start chanting, hit him harder, hit him harder. That's the chant.
Starting point is 01:26:21 So, that was the beginning. And then as the game continues, fans are just doing all sorts of shit. They're throwing hot dogs at the players, spitting at Mike Hargrove, who was in the outfield for Texas. And they're shooting fireworks into the Texas dugout. Who has that in their pocket? They have 10-cent beer nights. Anything's possible. They're literally shooting them from the stands, aiming them into the Texas dugout and dropping
Starting point is 01:26:46 them from on top of the dugout. They're dropping like firecracker. It's a fucking war zone. It's bedlam. Hargrove was nearly, nearly hit by a gallon of Thunderbird wine. What? A gallon of cheap wine almost hit him in the fucking head. Why are you bringing that?
Starting point is 01:27:03 It's ten cent beer night. I don't know. So the bottom of the ninth, then Cleveland ties the game at five. Now it's getting dangerous. So this is when it gets bad. A fan, Jeff Burrows, is playing out in right field
Starting point is 01:27:16 and a fan runs out and tries to steal Jeff Burrows' hat. Okay? Burrows tries to confront the guy and trips and falls down while he's doing it. The right fielder. Now, Texas' manager is Billy Martin. Now, if you know anything about Billy Martin, he's the fightinest guy in the history of sports. He started the famous Copacabana brawl.
Starting point is 01:27:41 He's a tiny, tiny guy who literally fights anybody. He tried to fight Reggie Jackson in the dugout. He's a 50-something-year-old manager, and Reggie is a jacked dude in the prime of his life. He had to be held back by Elston Howard because he was trying to kill Reggie Jackson. He's a nut. So he sees this,
Starting point is 01:27:58 and he thought Burroughs was being attacked by the fans, and they got a hold of him. So he says, Come on, guys., onto the field. Get the fucking bats. Let's go. What? So the Texas Rangers, with bats in their hand and helmets and everything else,
Starting point is 01:28:12 run out to right field to protect Jeff Burroughs from getting mauled by the fans. So they're going out. They do this. Fans, at that point, more fans start coming down with weapons. Oh, no. People have chains, knives, seats. They have seats that they've ripped from the fucking from the stadium and have now carried on the field. They're trying to hit Texas Ranger players with them.
Starting point is 01:28:36 That's what's happening. This is crazy. This is the end of Blazing Saddles. Why do they have chains and knives? This is the end of Blazing Saddles. Who brings that shit to a baseball game? That's what is going on here. This is like the end of Blazing Saddles. Yeah, but why do they have James and I who brings that shit to a baseball game? That's what is going on here. This is wild.
Starting point is 01:28:49 This is insanity, right? So obviously this is nuts. So Ken Aspermonte, who's the manager of the Indians, realizes that basically the fans are attacking the Rangers. Their lives are in danger. So he says, come on, guys, grab your bats and go help the other team. Go fight our fans. Come on. So literally, the Indians players grab their bats and rush out to right field to fight the fans off the Texas Rangers.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Because at the end of the day, they're baseball players and these fucking people don't belong on the field. So they're going to protect their player friends. So that's what ends up happening. People at that point, it's a full-blown riot yeah uh people start malice at the palace oh there's oh it's worse they're throwing chairs right there's weapons oh there's shit on fire it's fucking crazy uh one of uh a folding chair hit cleveland relief pitcher tom hilde uh hilgen dorf in the head uh and uh he was involved the time, he was involved in a fight, and somebody hit him in the head. He had to get stitches. Mike Hargrove was in a fist fight with a
Starting point is 01:29:50 fan and had to fight another one while making his way back to the dugout. By the way, the whole time this was going on, Rusty Torres was at second base. He just stood there? No, no. He had to get in the brawl, but this started while he's at second. So he's just standing there. All of a sudden, a brawl breaks out. People run out there. Then his team runs out. He's like, fuck it. I guess I run in there, too. while he's at second so he's just standing there all of a sudden a brawl breaks out people run out there then his team runs out he's like fucking i guess i run in there too
Starting point is 01:30:07 so he's involved with it uh yeah the bases were stolen they had to call the game because they stole the bases and they didn't have any other ones wow we can't play the rest of the game without bases holy shit yeah they threw him with cups coins bottles hot dogs radio batteries fucking i've never heard of this cups glasses bottles folding chairs a goddamn disaster uh yeah he was in as a pinch hitter in that situation so uh yeah guy tried to steal burrow's glove after the hat incident that's when it fucking ridiculous man how do they not get a handle on this as soon as the chick's tits come out that's yeah hey everyone calm down you guys not do this how about? How about we quit the fucking beer sales?
Starting point is 01:30:46 The 70s were pretty loosey-goosey, but relax here. Lee McPhail, the American League president, had the Captain Obvious over here, says, quote, there was no question that beer played a part in the riot. You think? You think so?
Starting point is 01:31:01 Well done, Dickie. Wow. The Indians had three more 10-cent beer nights on the schedule and changed them. They changed it. Still 10 cent beers, but instead of unlimited beer, now it's four beers per person. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 01:31:13 So you can't have unlimited beer. And maybe it is a great thing that beers are like $7,000 at a stadium. That keeps you from A, throwing it. And there's still people having it. And buying a shitload of it. There's still people falling down. I spent $800 to get like this. They don't care. They A, throwing it. And there's still people hammering. And buying a shitload of it. There's still people falling down. I spent $800 to get like this. They don't care.
Starting point is 01:31:29 They'll still do it. I spent my mortgage to talk like an idiot. Okay, I'm going to get arrested, too. Hold on. I spent my mortgage to puke. It feels so green. I'm going to run. So, 73.
Starting point is 01:31:44 I'm going to go punch Jermaine O'Neal. That looks right. So 122 games for Cleveland that year. 312 at-bats. He only hits 205. Not great. 205 is not good. Seven home runs, 28 RBI.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Six stolen bases, but he's caught stealing five times. So that's not good. Makes $16,000. That is good. Equal to $92,128.65. Not too shabby. 1974 in Cleveland here. He ends up playing 109 games for them.
Starting point is 01:32:15 He hits 187. Oh, my God. With three home runs, 12 RBI. You don't do that today. No, you're gone. They will open you. Yeah, well, what they do is September 12th of 74, they basically Cleveland trades Ken Suarez,
Starting point is 01:32:31 Cash, and a player to be named later to the California Angels for legendary Hall of Famer Frank Robinson. Okay, so October 10th, 1974, after the season, the Cleveland sends Rusty as the player to be named later. He got named later. You can have 187 boy over there.
Starting point is 01:32:49 We don't need him. We're good. 187. Also, we're going to kill your career in honor of your murder number that you just backed. 187, you're dead. But that year, he does make $19,750, which is equivalent to $102,418.37.
Starting point is 01:33:09 For a 187 batting average. For a 187 average. The worst of his career, making the most money. Yeah, that's bad. 75, he is in the minors, the California Angels minor league system the whole year. Doesn't see the majors in 75. Plays for the Salt Lake City Gulls. Not great.
Starting point is 01:33:28 They looked on this team. Kurt Bavacqua, the bubblegum champions on this team. Vance Law, who played for the White Sox later, is on this team. Guys like that. Nobody that really is anything special, though. But for them, he ends up hitting.306 that
Starting point is 01:33:44 year and.369 that year. Okay. And.369 at bat. So he kind of got his groove back. It's AAA pitching. What do you expect? Eight home runs, 64 ribbies. So 1976, he's with the California Angels now because he had been traded there. They just kept him down.
Starting point is 01:33:58 76, I mean, this is a team. Nolan Ryan's on this team. So this is not a great team, but some interesting guys are on this team. Bobby Bonds is on this team so this is not a great team but some interesting guys uh are on this team barry bar bobby bonds is on this team barry bond's dad obviously uh some nolan ryan enough said there so uh some decent guy jim brewer the comedian no it's a guy named jim brewer spelled the same way yeah e-u-e-r oh no no wait no this is a e-w-e-r. Damn it. So 76 Angels, 76 and 86. Manager gets fired halfway through the year.
Starting point is 01:34:29 That's just not a good time here. They're not a good team, this team. He plays in 120 games, 264 at-bats, hits 205. Seems to be about what he's hitting in the majors. His last four major league seasons are 211, 205, 187, 205. That's not good at all. That is some Mendoza shit right there, right on the line. He was their opening day center fielder, starting center fielder that year.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Really? They wanted to give him a chance. He hit well in the minors. They're like, he's ready to go, but just not great. He played 104 of his games in center field, but he, yeah, just 205. He did have a lot of walks, though, which is good, but you've got to hit more than 205. He loses his starting job, ends up on the bench, and that's kind of the way it goes there.
Starting point is 01:35:19 He's a free agent at the end of that year. And on August 21, 76, he does hit a 10th-inning solo home run to beat the Yankees. Oh! Yeah, a walk-off shot to beat the Yankees. That was probably good. That was probably good. He was good for a homer once in a while. 77, California Angels, another shit team.
Starting point is 01:35:35 They're 74-88. Not wonderful. New manager. They fire their manager again halfway through the year, hire somebody else who does the same exact record. Hot garbage, basically. 58 games here for rusty he's only 77 at bat so that tells you it's a lot of pinch hitting uh he hits 156 oh no which you know i gotta say this guy might be a guy who needs to play every day to be able to hit 275 that might be his thing because some guys are pinch
Starting point is 01:36:04 hitting is hard. And coming in off the bench is hard. You're not in your groove. So baseball's like a rhythm game. It's a repetition game. So it's a special talent to be able to be a bench player in baseball. That's valuable. Because it really is.
Starting point is 01:36:21 That's why you get guys like, what the hell is his name on Oakland? He just retired a few years ago. Big power hitter. The big white guy? Yeah. Giambi. No, not Giambi. His brother Giambi. No, no.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Neither Giambi. Matt. Williams. Campbell. Matt Stairs. Of course. Matt Stairs. Shut up, Dick.
Starting point is 01:36:43 I can't believe you expect me to pull that shit out he's a big stock i don't know unbelievable matt stairs how the fuck would i know look him up right now jesus you don't know matt stairs no okay how old was he was he playing a long time yeah he played forever he's played obviously you're shocked that he just retired i thought he just retired is the stairs like the stairs i think so yeah the stairs like the stairs? I think so. Yeah, Matt's stairs like the stairs. Look him up.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Okay, I'm doing my best here. It doesn't pull anybody up. Did I get it wrong, too? I don't know. I typed in Matt's stairs and nothing populated. It's just my letters didn't even bring anybody up. And now Google's not working. So, God damn it.
Starting point is 01:37:24 It's a shit day. I think it's Matt's stairs. Oh, it's trying. Yeah. So, God damn it. It's a shit day. I think it's Matt Stairs. Oh, it's trying. Yeah. Oh, I see him. Mullet, blonde guy, stocky. Well, he looks like shit. Yeah, he's old now.
Starting point is 01:37:32 He's old as fuck now. Matt Wade Stairs, by the way. Yeah, there you go. Matt Stairs. Played for the Phillies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, played for the A's at the end of his career.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Canadian fella. Yeah. Yeah, he looks very Canadian. He does. He looks like a lumberjack. He does. Absolutely. He is a syrup sipping uh oh yeah also by the way Gardetto's chewing Jesus Christ but he was a good pinch hitter and he stuck around forever Rusty Staub stuck around in the league till he
Starting point is 01:37:56 was in 46 years old hitting uh home runs ever that's I mean that's a yeah I think Cliff Johnson's record he beat because Cliff Johnson the guy who got drafted with Rusty Torres, was the guy before that who was a huge pinch-hitting legend. This guy just retired? A few years ago. My God. Yeah, he played in his 40s. That's only 40? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:15 He looks like shit. He looked terrible anyway. Wow. He's a free agent now, Rusty is, as of October of 77. March 1st, 1978, he signs as a free agent with Texas. I don't know what the market value of a 156 hitter is. A guy's got like a lifetime 201 average. I don't know what that is,
Starting point is 01:38:34 but that was the whole winter. He didn't have a team. He didn't know if anyone was going to sign him, but he signed right in the beginning of spring training by the Rangers. He starts off the 78 season back down in the minors playing for the tucson toros down there that's brutal from la to tucson tucson in the summer fucking kill me unbelievable so he was hitting 346 with seven home runs in the
Starting point is 01:39:00 first 30 games in tucson which he's looking good so texas said we can either bring him up or try to ride this out or we've built up his value a little let's just trade him because we don't think it's going to last uh so they trade him uh from with with claudel washington who's a long time player uh to the chicago white socks for bobby bonds okay so they end up getting yeah bobby bonds is in this deal uh So he goes to the White Sox, 78 White Sox. This looks like a... That's not good.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Just a complete... Chet Lemon is the only guy. Chet Lemon, Claude L. Washington, Ron Bloomberg. Nobody else is really... That's the guy who was drafted with Bloomberg.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah, yeah, and he'll come up later, too. Bobby Bonds was on there before he got traded, obviously. So, anyway, it's an interesting uh thing here 78 white socks 71 and 90 they are another bad team this is uh managers bob lemon and larry doby larry doby does not get enough credit by the way larry doby is the first american
Starting point is 01:39:57 league uh first black player in the american league really very soon after jackie robinson had to go through just as much shit, but got none of the credit for it. Literally none of the credit. Everybody's dancing. Everybody, Jackie Robinson day, Jackie Robinson number, everybody wears it.
Starting point is 01:40:14 It's all retired throughout the league. And it all should be. That's great. But Larry Doby. Ten minutes later. Did you ever hear of Larry Doby, Jimmy? Never. There you go.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Ten minutes later, Larry's in there. Yeah. What the fuck yeah what is it because my name doesn't sound like jackie because larry's a little bit uglier of a name he just missed the timing that's all it was it was just they missed the timing once i guess i think it was cleveland he was with they brought him up because it was like oh you know the dodgers are providing cover so we'll bring him up and no one will really notice. That's what it kind of was here. So this year for Chicago, he only plays in 16 games. He has 44 at-bats.
Starting point is 01:40:51 He hits 318, but I mean 44 at-bats. What are you going to do here? Three home runs, which isn't bad. Six RBI. That's not terrible. He made the opening day roster, which is good. Not too shabby. He starts on July 12th.
Starting point is 01:41:10 It's a doubleheader against the Detroit Tigers. And it is Disco Demolition Night. Have you heard of this? What the fuck is this? Okay, local DJ that night had, it was a rock station. This is 79, the end of kind of disco. He had a big disco sucks thing it was disco demolition night where you were to bring all of your disco records and things anything disco related and they were
Starting point is 01:41:34 going to put them on a big piece of plywood and in between the double header in the middle in the middle of that they were going to blow it up oh my god okay have a big explosion of records and tapes everybody bring weapons to the stands. Records. Yeah. Records. Right. Not weapons.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Think about that. Not weapons. Not at all. Now, if you zip a record like a Frisbee in a far distance. You're going to take a fucking eye out. You're going to take a head off with that thing. Break it in half. You're like Austin Powers.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Yeah. You're going to take your head clean off. You break it in half and you've got a goddamn cutting agent. Oh, yeah. You have an absolute blade. A military blade. Prison blade. Prison.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah. I'm like, I think they give the military better. Is that what we're doing? I pay. Okay. We just did our taxes. Yeah. I'm not paying them if that's what we're giving our soldiers to fight with because I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Whatever it is, it's not worth it. If we're giving them weapons, fine. But otherwise, I'm not paying for it. We're melting down billy joel's albums not paying for a bunch of dudes to be running around the middle east with half of you know half of pink floyd the wall half a dark side of the moon swiping at arabs i don't need that shit it's weird it's just weird so uh yeah this uh he he had he'd played in the game. So in between games there was supposed to be, like I said, the blow up a big box of disco records,
Starting point is 01:42:52 which ended up causing thousands of fans to rush onto the field. What? And to do this, I don't know what the hell they were thinking, and so the police had to come in riot gear and clear them off. Yeah. know what the hell they were thinking and so the police had to come in riot gear and clear them off um yeah uh rusty says quote you know a lot of people didn't like disco because that stadium was packed he says i played that game i started in right field that day so i'm in right field the first inning somebody zings a 78 record uh record you remember those 78 records you know like the little guy yeah uh it goes right by my head and sticks in the ground wow yeah dude if you shot that from the upper deck yeah you would gravity yanking it down oh dude it'll cut you that'll cut you absolutely cut you uh it's
Starting point is 01:43:37 stuck in the ground he said it was always humid there so that record sticks in the ground so they announce over the public address please do not throw records on the field. I can't believe we have to say this, but obvious, obvious announcement. Jesus Christ. He says, you know, they'll have their fun in between games when the demolition of the records was going to take place. The people calm down. They have their beers. So we play the first game, finish the first game.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Then we go inside the clubhouses. We're sitting inside drinking some soda. And then all of a sudden we hear this explosion. It rocked the stadium, right? We jump up. I go outside and the stadium was full of smoke. But when the smoke started clearing, you see about 20,000 people on the field. What?
Starting point is 01:44:21 They all just came on the field. But that's not all of it the police then come they come out on horses it was just unbelievable bill veck was the creator of that bill veck is a you know he is he's he's the owner of the white socks at the time he's a crazy son of a bitch well obviously he owned minor league teams before that and he was the king of crazy promotions he came up he's have you ever seen the picture of the little person hitting? It was about, I'm not talking four foot four,
Starting point is 01:44:49 I'm talking one foot nine. That's him. The bat is like three of him. Yes, because he's impossible to throw a strike on. Got it. That's Bill Veck sent that guy out there. Shit like that.
Starting point is 01:44:58 It's publicity stunts. He was trying, in minor leagues, you have to do anything to get people to come to the games. I mean, the quality of baseball isn't going to do it. You you got guys that are a foot tall yeah come see them try to throw a strike to this tom thumb over here it's weird
Starting point is 01:45:12 that that was his promotion i know uh he says quote that was quite an experience we couldn't play the second game of course because it was forfeited yeah when everything cleared and the people are getting off the field we see they had made a crater in center field what a crater that you would not believe yes they cratered it wow so they interviewed the guy in charge of the explosion the police ask him what the heck did you do he says quote i used too much dynamite i think i might have used too much gunpowder, too. He used dynamite? Dynamite and gunpowder. And he's got people within 100 fucking yards of this thing.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Running right up to them. What the shit? So much so that he cratered center field of Comiskey Park. So the, Jesus Christ. So Sparky Anderson, who's the Tigers manager, said, we can't play if the goddamn field is a crater, and I'm not sending my players out there. So the White Sox had to forfeit the second game.
Starting point is 01:46:11 He was involved in three forfeited games. No one's ever been involved in three forfeited games except for Rusty Torres. He's got some weird things. He's got some records. Yeah, he's quite the accomplished man. 79 White Sox uh 73 and 87 not like it matters they fired their manager halfway through the season and hired a new manager he was a brand new guy on the scene uh who knows if he'll last tony larusa oh so uh yeah we'll see
Starting point is 01:46:39 he ends up with tony larusa when he came in with the White Sox. After a while, I read this in a book, he implemented a new way of pitchers. He didn't use pitchers like you traditionally use them, six, seven innings, bring relievers out. All of the guys would pitch two, two and a half, three innings. That was his thing. So as a starter, you'd come in, pitch two and a half, three innings. Somebody else come in, pitch two and a half, three innings. Then that starter is available whenever you want. Two days.
Starting point is 01:47:05 It's flexible. But the problem is guys get paid about statistics. Right. So if you're a pitcher and you're a starting pitcher and you come out in the third inning, you can never get a win. Right. Because you have to pitch five to get a win if you start.
Starting point is 01:47:16 So if you're a starting pitcher, then you go for your contract and you had no wins last year. You're like, well, shit. And you go to arbitration. You can't be like, well, the manager has a weird thing that hasn't it doesn't work so you don't understand what had happened was what happened
Starting point is 01:47:31 so yeah he the players were basically in a riot and larusa had to change his mind but when you see larusa making constant pitching changes as he's criticized for back in the day for a long time now it's because he wants to make even more right the players wouldn't rebel he would make even more so november 1st 79 he's a free agent rusty is 1980 he is signed as a free agent with the white socks then april 1st which is like opening day he's released by the white socks so he didn't make the last cut there may 5th 1980 he signed as a free agent with kansas city and kansas city had a big year he plays eight games with the omaha royals and triple a to get in shape and then gets promoted to the rangers or the rangers of royals he played in 51 so this guy if you guessed he did play for
Starting point is 01:48:16 the royals i did not he didn't guess that exposed he guessed in 51 games he only batted 167 and had no extra base hits. What? None. No doubles. Only just singles. That's it. This team consisted of George Brett, Amos Otis, Hal McRae, Willie Mays-Aikens, as we might know of here. A lot of guys.
Starting point is 01:48:39 UL Washington, who I always loved his name. Dan Quisenberry. Ken Brett, also, who was drafted with george's brother uh he doesn't do well so august 29th 1980 he's released by the royals uh by the way kansas city that year will go on uh to uh all the way to beat the yankees in the al championship series and lose four games to two against the phillies in the world series so he was a month away from being able to play in a world series god damn it didn't quite get to do it uh that is it for his major league career he's never going to get called up to the majors again he has 655 games 1314 at bats 212 batting average lifetime lifetime wow 212 35 homers 126 ribbies which is like a good season
Starting point is 01:49:27 for a power hitter 35 homers 20 uh 126 ribbies 13 stolen bases 20 caught stealing yeah not great at all 164 walks 246 strikeouts i'll give him a seven million dollar contract this year yeah i'll get him something yeah uh so yeah not not not a great time uh 1981 uh january 20th he signs as a free agent with the pirates but he's cut before the season he doesn't make it out of spring training uh he is he's not cut he's demoted they send him down to portland where he plays the entire 1981 season on the portland beavers uh who we've talked about before as well they were 77 72 and 65. Not like it fucking matters.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Portland Beavers. Portland Beavers, baby. You know it. So, yeah, he plays there. 257 he hits. What does he hit? Holy shit. 21 home runs, though.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Oh. 257, 21 homers, 74 RBIs. In AAA. In AAA. He's a AAA star. He's what you call a 4a guy that's what rod told me the guys that are uh too good for the minors you send them down they hit 30 home runs you bring them up they hit 200 right what do you do with that guy nowhere else
Starting point is 01:50:36 he's a 4a he sells cars literally they'll be playing at 4a guys will say that means just he ain't gonna cut it that's that's if you ever hear anybody referred to as 4a that's what that means i think only players use that term though but uh yeah he's uh in 1982 he ends up even lower than the minors he ends up in mexico oh no uh playing for the in a mexican league playing for the monterey sultans sultanes yeah i shouldn't there's a there's an E in there. Is there really? Yeah, Sultan with an ES there. So he plays for Monterey. They're a 48-81 team. Not good. And that's going to be it for him.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Here's the list of teams he's played for. Let's just tell you, a guy who was, he didn't play forever or anything. This is how many. Triple A involved? All of them, just as many teams. Johnson City Yankees, Oneonta Yankees, Greensboro Yankees, Fort Lauderdale Yankees, Kingston Eagles, Manchester Yankees, Syracuse Chiefs, New York Yankees, Cleveland Indians, Salt Lake City Gulls, California Angels, Iowa Oaks, Tucson Toros, Chicago White Sox, Omaha Royals,
Starting point is 01:51:37 Kansas City Royals, Portland Beavers, Monterey Sultans. That is brutal. It's so many places to go. It's ridiculous. That's like our schedule this year that's like our tour schedule jesus so it's actually less than our tour schedule we have more more cities and they have teams he's packing up and moving oh yeah every damn time so he's still come back here yeah that's that's true yeah we have a home to come back to he's done with
Starting point is 01:52:00 baseball at this point he says quote unfortunately that's when it hit me when he got what he's done with baseball at this point. He says, quote, unfortunately, that's when it hit me when he's done in Mexico. He said, I knew how to play ball, but that was it. I was totally unprepared for the job market. No idea what to do. He didn't make enough money to sit on or anything. I mean, he was making. He made, fuck, 50 grand. I mean, if you made 100 grand's worth of income in the mid-70s, that's good money.
Starting point is 01:52:22 But I mean, that's not money that you can be like, I can live off of that for the next 10 years. Coasting, obviously. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So 1985, he gets involved in a new business. Oh boy. He's been out of the league for three years. Okay, well, he's at a Bernie's Diner
Starting point is 01:52:40 in Route 10 in Farmingdale in New York here. It's a great place. We all know it. It's in Long Island out there. He is with a guy named Craig Pitter, who's a 24-year-old, and a guy named Ivan Maldonado,
Starting point is 01:52:56 who's a 25-year-old. And they're in a parking lot outside Bernie's Diner. This sounds like a Goodfellas meeting place, but it's not. Basically, he is arrested here and charged with selling a half ounce of cocaine to an undercover detective. What the fuck? Which is not smart. 900 bucks he sold it for.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Oh, no. Half ounce of coke to an undercover detective. Not just they got him on a hand to hand. He sold it to a cop. And he's in his 30s. Not good. He is 36. Yeah, he tells police that he is jobless and on welfare.
Starting point is 01:53:29 So he goes from that to now he's unemployed, living on welfare, trying to sling coke in the Bernie's Diner parking lot to undercover cops. Not terrific. Telling people, don't call me Rusty. You weren't there. You don't know. So he's unable to post $ thousand dollars bail and he's locked up in the county jail awaiting his hearing though he can't even post bail uh the other two men were uh who have been they said who were quote major participants in the sale were held on twenty
Starting point is 01:53:56 thousand dollars bail uh he was held on five thousand dollars bail i don't know if just because he was on the yankees so they're like well you know june 25th 85 he has to plead guilty uh to criminal they he pleads down from the distribution because he sold it uh to criminal possession of cocaine okay that's what he does here uh suffolk county district attorney recommended that he get 60 days in the county jail followed by probation the judge said uh no i don't think so uh she said that uh his attorney said that he was outside the diner, but he wasn't the person who sold the cocaine to the undercover officer. He didn't physically hand it to him.
Starting point is 01:54:32 So, you know, so the judge says, all right, you, sir, may fuck off 300 hours of community service. Just that. Just that five years probation. OK, he can he can fix his life. He can fix his life. That's a wake up call. Yeah. Get a job. Yeah. He can fix his life. That's a wake-up call. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Get a job and figure it out. And I think that's what the judge was saying. Hey, you had your shit together at one point. Figure it out. Clean up. Remember when you played in the majors, dipshit? Fucking clean up. Don't choose this life.
Starting point is 01:54:54 So 1998, he starts something new. That's actually a good thing here. It's called the Winning Beyond Winning. It's an organization. Quote, this is from a's an organization quote this is from a Newsday article. Once again, through hard work and dedication, Rusty was able to meet the tough challenges.
Starting point is 01:55:14 He's now dedicated to helping youngsters understand how they must prepare themselves. He's the founder of Winning Beyond Winning and participates in a number of youth activities. He says quote, we can help teach kids how to excel in sports but just as importantly we tell them how to make sure they get a well-rounded education that sounds good yeah that sounds very good late 50s uh yeah so
Starting point is 01:55:35 1950 1998 uh 1998 uh is when it's founded 270 people event people attend this event to launch this thing. It's for youth athletes. It's to teach them, they said, also teach them the dangers of drugs and alcohol while promoting participation in sports and school and everything like that. It also aids in the development of a young career, a young athlete's career
Starting point is 01:56:00 after his or her playing days are over. So it's meant to do that, too. One of the other founders the president here thomas sebalico he said the average professional career is only about four years so a guy can be the best but only for four years when the cheering stops what does he do he ends up being on our show is what he does unfortunately that's the problem uh so he says that this guy says he's employed many former athletes that have had trouble adjusting to life after sports, which is totally understandable. All you do since you're five is this.
Starting point is 01:56:29 And then they go, all right, figure out the rest of the world. Now you go, um, you need anybody to hit something with a bat? Like that's what I know how to do. Uh, he, this guy says that, uh, he has helped spread this message to over 60,000 kids in the past and he wants to continue it with this project. Torres says, quote, athletics builds life skills. He says it builds character. It helps kids understand teamwork.
Starting point is 01:56:53 These are all things that will help them no matter what they choose to do in life. That's true, actually. People hate sports, and they think that competition is bad. It can be, but it can also be competition in the world. It's a tool. And not only that, it also helps you learn how to work with people, not only to compete against them. It's both.
Starting point is 01:57:13 You have to rely on each other's strengths to get to the common goal. Especially now, you don't even have to be good to play sports as a kid. You can just play, and it's good for you, and you should play. You don't even have to be good to get a job either. Sometimes you just get it because you've a friend there that stuff happens all the time but i mean kids now they don't make fun of each other when they're bad at baseball they try to help each other no exactly torres says quote when you're at the end of your playing days it gets a little scary you're at a crossroads and you have to figure out what you're going to do with the
Starting point is 01:57:40 rest of your life we've gone through it we've made those decisions so now winning beyond winning is using ball players with this uh with this extensive life experience and we're passing it on to the youth of our communities okay that sounds great yeah right 2002 he is inducted into the stickball hall of fame there's one there's a stickball hall of fame it's like 300 puerto rican guys that's all it's in it every name is just like It's like 300 Puerto Rican guys. That's all it said. Every name is just like, it's 300 Puerto Rican guys. They have a story about each of them, and it's like all of them are just- Emigrated from Puerto Rico. Emigrated from Puerto Rico. 300 Puerto Rican guys from the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:58:16 That's the whole fucking thing. It's awesome. Sounds like a fun party for the, anyway, for the induction. They said that he also, at this point, when he's inducted into the Stickball Hall of Fame, that's hilarious, he spent some time as a guest instructor for a baseball plus in Hicksville, New York, where he did clinics for kids for hitting, throwing, fielding, and that sort of thing. The guy who ran that said, said quote he was very good with the kids i mean very good with the kids they absolutely loved him and took to what he was doing yeah so he's good at instructing i want to be in the butts up hall of fame remember that one that game did you ever play butts up that's where you you have a racquetball and you throw it against a wall
Starting point is 01:58:59 and then uh if you if you i forget how the rule rule goes, but if you miss the ball or you miss the wall. I'm waiting to see when the ball goes in someone's butt. Well, that's what it is. You got to go stand up against the wall, put your hands on the wall, and then whoever just got you out whips the ball at your ass. That's the game. I was good at it. What is that, from prison?
Starting point is 01:59:21 What kind of fucking game is that? That's a prison game. It's Central Phoenix. That seems prison. With some gangster ass kids played it. Yeah, it was. My cousin just got out of the pen and taught me this shit. You want to play?
Starting point is 01:59:31 Like, that's a weird thing to ask. Yeah, it's pretty much that. My uncle just got home. Check this out. Got this game. I got a new game to show you guys. What is this? And then he shows.
Starting point is 01:59:42 And that's when you go, your uncle just got out again, didn't he? Didn't he? He's home? Okay. He's back. All right. What is this? And then he shows. And that's when you go, your uncle just got out again, didn't he? Didn't he? He's home? Okay. He's back? All right. I can't believe you never played that. I never heard of it before.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Never? No, I never heard of it. I think it was popular. I don't know. We played basketball a lot. We did that, too. I don't know. I never played that one.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Butts up was common. Oh, all right. I mean, it sounds like something boys would do. Yeah, yeah. We were trying to hurt each other. It was always the goal. There it is. Yeah. It's always the end game. Can I would do. Yeah. We weren't trying to hurt each other. And there's always the goal. There it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:06 It's always the end game. Can I hurt anyone? Yeah. A raised welt in the form of a very small blue ball. Jesus Christ. So June 8th, 2007, Torres, Rusty. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Rosendo is awarded with the Hispanic Heritage Baseball Museum Hall of Fame Pioneer Award in June of 2007 here. So that's a big thing. I looked up what this was. The Hispanic Heritage Baseball Museum Hall of Fame was founded in San Francisco in 1998. It's a nonprofit here. It's a lot of people. It's a nonprofit here. It's a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:00:50 It's basically founded by Gabriel Avila Jr., who's a former semi-pro, Sandlot High School, college player, and Vietnam-era veteran from New York City and San Francisco who wanted to honor the greatest Hispanic baseball position players of all time. So it's dedicated to recognizing the contributions made to baseball by Hispanic players. And they have inducted 71 players since they started, including coaches, broadcasters, everything, executives, anybody you name. Feels a little racist. Well, founding members include Orlando Cepeda, Orlando Mercado, and Tito Fuentes.
Starting point is 02:01:22 So it's a, you know's November 1st, 2009. They give him an award. Good for them. And there's people like very Hall of Famers getting awards. Luis Aparicio got an award in the same time. So, I mean, he was up there with some heavy hitters up there. Hall of Famers. November 1st, 2009, I found Winning Beyond Winning held their Gil Hodges Legacy Dinner.
Starting point is 02:01:43 That's what they call it. And it's uh it's a chat that's their whole charity thing 200 people showed up and it's uh it featured 1969 mets gil hodges and bud harrelson cleon jones ron sloboda all those guys gil hodges jr obviously his son there and uh gil hodges got Achievement Award from them because I guess he was good with kids, too. And yeah, also, Roland Hemmon was given the Great Americans Awards for 50 years as an executive in Major League Baseball. And current New York Mets coach Howard Johnson, ho, Joe, was honored with the 2009 Winner's Circle Award. was honored with the 2009 Winner's Circle Award.
Starting point is 02:02:25 And Howard Johnson stated, quote, I feel proud to carry on the traditions of the Mets that came before him and to pass what I have learned to the new generation of Mets players. So he's all Mr. Up and Up, man. This is great. 2011, the Winning Beyond Winning honors the pitcher David Robinson, who was the Yankees pitcher. And they're inducted into the Winner's Circle here, which is a big deal here.
Starting point is 02:02:48 They talk about, Torres says about this organization, quote, this organization has helped me to really grow in an area of my life that I've missed so much when I was playing baseball. He also says he's been sober for 21 years at this point, which would be 1990 he got sober, which makes sense. He said, so, you know, this organization has been great for him.
Starting point is 02:03:10 His roommate in the minor leagues, Tepe D knows his name. He said that setting that Torres is just always setting an example for kids. Nowadays, it's second nature. He said, quote, this probably,
Starting point is 02:03:22 if you tied up all the awards I've ever received is more important than anything I've ever done on the field. This has so much meaning to so many people. And so, yeah, it's a nice thing here, trying to give you something nice. Shamsky said, quote, not only is it great to see some of my ex-teammates and some other players I've either played with or against, it's such a great cause. The combination of getting to reminisce a little bit and knowing that you're helping in some small ways a good feeling that's nice rusty says quote i always wanted to do things that would assist the youth in and around communities where i grew up that's nice our message is you can achieve things in life but we're going to tell you about the little things you need to keep straight and achieve it yeah that's good that sounds great he said quote we're only a baby organization we're just
Starting point is 02:04:06 13 years old and yet we have kids in college who are saying hey i'm doing something for myself we run into kids who come back and say i remember what you told me that's the greatest feeling in the world when you know you've helped somebody that sounds great yeah he's having a great life but we know this is rare that we have this around he's he has one coke the one one the one coke boss yeah well may 8th 2012 comes around and it all changes yeah real hard how long has he been doing uh may 8th 2012 he is arrested at his home in massapequa which is on long island there uh it's he's going to be arraigned on four counts of sexual abuse. What?
Starting point is 02:04:46 Charges of sexual abuse against him. He's 63, is accused of abusing an eight-year-old girl. What the fuck? When he was coaching on two separate occasions. Authorities say the eight-year-old was sexually abused inside a town-issued van. Gross. He's working for the town. The victim's parents reported the incident to police.
Starting point is 02:05:04 He's employed as a youth baseball coach for the town of Oyster Bay, where they occurred. Law enforcement officials said, quote, the first incident involved inappropriate touching. The second incident, there was contact, but not sexual activity. A representative for the town of Oyster Bay didn't say anything. Rusty wouldn't comment. Detective Robert Medederos said it occurred while Torres was performing his duties as an instructor for the town of Oyster Bay.
Starting point is 02:05:31 His job is to teach kids shit. Asshole. He said that Torres and the victim were alone at the time, but there were several other children in the general area. You know how brazen that is, too? That's disgusting. Yeah. in the general area. You know how brazen that is, too?
Starting point is 02:05:43 That's disgusting. Yeah. When he was asked, Torres disputed the allegations to police. Matadoro, the detective, said, quote, not entirely, but partially, he disputed it. He said that there's no accusations that he abused anyone else at this moment. He says, but the investigation is by no means closed. I doubt there's just one that we couldn't resist. Your first one is not
Starting point is 02:06:05 the one in the van near a bunch of kids nope that's pretty ballsy yeah uh now the the uh he's a he's a detective with the special victims unit here uh he said because of the extensive exposure to children i believe that it's important to make people aware of this incident and i encourage anyone who believes their child has had inappropriate contact with mr torres to contact the special victim squad uh they're reaching out policed in the process of reaching out to other schools and organizations that he may have had ties to a spokesman for the town of oyster oyster bay more mr obvious here said torres was suspended without pay uh and and any programs were scheduled to conduct have been canceled. No shit.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Like, I don't know. We told him he could punch in and we'll see what happens later. Fuck out of here. His neighbor, Gus Galatatsis. Jesus. He's shocked. Can't believe it. He said, no way.
Starting point is 02:07:01 Rusty arrested. What? He then says, this is to Newsday, the paper. He says, I'm floored right now. He even coached my son. He said, no way. Rusty arrested. What? He then says, this is to Newsday, the paper. He says, I'm floored right now. He even coached my son. He's great. He knows everyone in the neighborhood and everyone knows him. He's such a well-known, well-liked guy.
Starting point is 02:07:15 I'm speechless. He said, Rusty is a friendly, outgoing guy. I pray to God that the allegations aren't true. That's what he says. Another 10-year neighbor lived there for 10 years janice catalano was also stunned she said i'm at a loss for words and i think anybody in this neighborhood would say the same thing and i'm an italian bitch from new york and i'm at a loss for words i'm at a loss for words let me tell you about it for a half hour 45 minutes
Starting point is 02:07:40 i got a few things to say about why i got no words. All the reasons I got nothing to say. I can't even speak. I can explain why. She said, and I think everyone in this neighborhood would say the same thing. He did programs in the town to keep kids on the right track. I just don't believe it. That's her loss for words. They were like, okay, we got your say.
Starting point is 02:08:04 He's like, hold on. I he's like hold on i got more to say i got more to say uh the uh wow the the town supervisor said as always the town stands ready to cooperate fully with any and all law enforcement agencies in this matter well no fucking shit uh yes so he's you're supposed to contact someone if he if he someone if your kids have been in contact with him. They said that they're reaching out to administrators of other organizations and schools to make them aware of this incident to try to get the word out. He said the charges were surprising not only to friends and family, but to Mr. Torres himself. Wow. His lawyer says that Torres was, quote,
Starting point is 02:08:45 obviously upset and disturbed by the allegations. Family members, including a brother and sister, appeared in court in support of him, but didn't comment on that. I didn't know it was illegal. So, yeah, he's going to wander out. I mean, good Lord, what's he going to do? Oh, he's wandering around.
Starting point is 02:09:01 He'll get a brat down at Tencent Beer Night. That's the thing. I mean, get a brat, Ten 10 cent uh beer night that's the thing or i mean what get a brock 10 cent beer night's a good thing i drive around in your van yeah i don't know start doing hvac work you can't work with kids at this point have a county vehicle drive and clear your head something maybe i don't know but uh he ends up he wanders around he gets lost yeah which is the weird thing because he's from there but he still gets lost and he doesn't know what to do and uh he says you know i don't even know where i'm doing his phone wouldn't work he's read his battery died and have his charger on him you know how it goes here he didn't know
Starting point is 02:09:32 what the fuck to do so he said i'm gonna knock on this house he knocked on this house he knocked on the door he said you know it knocks on it and and opens it's my grandma! And she says, Ma, how is it you've come to arrive here? Ma, you son of a bitch, get over here. Ma, where's my purse? I get my knife out. I cut your balls off, you dirty bastard. Ma, get out of my house, go! You get out of my yard!
Starting point is 02:10:02 Ma, I cut your balls off, go! You run! You run, you bastard son of a bitch and that's it that's it poof she chased him off the property with a knife and he ran away
Starting point is 02:10:13 and that was that so poof in a poof of marinara sauce and homemade pasta she's gone unbelievable and Rusty is frightened
Starting point is 02:10:20 yeah I'm sure he finds his way back to where he's going so yeah that's that May may 9th 2012 he pleads innocent to four charges of sexual abuse uh they say the incident occurred after he had unloaded equipment from his van outside a school in preparation for an athletic program
Starting point is 02:10:38 and set the kids up doing exercises yeah he said the police say he admitted flashing an eight-year-old girl in the back of a van after in the back of a van how disgusting is that how stereotypical yeah after he had like you know played with her in the part in the playground there you want to see my dick uh he said he confessed that he became oh my god he became, slightly aroused while watching the child hang upside down from a pull-up bar on Monday afternoon. How could you? This is fucking disgusting, and I want to punch this man in the face. Quote, this is gross. Quote, her dress kept flying up, and I could see her underwear.
Starting point is 02:11:18 It was a light color and her private area. Then he said that he and the girl had a lot of physical contact as he helped her down off the bar he said quote body to body over and over i brought her back to the i brought her to the back of my van and i don't want to talk about what happened there but at one point i accidentally exposed my erect penis oh boy that's his fucking that's his whoops today there it is i'm sorry peekaboo you're too young to look at that uh yeah he says that the girl never touched him and that he quote stopped myself before anything bad happened to her no something bad already happened yeah that's what i'm gonna say you saw a grown man's dick yeah that's it end of story over
Starting point is 02:12:02 50 year old man's penis and the story it's and the story you're a stickball hall of famer right i expect better from you um yeah uh so then he they said that he rubbed his erect penis from the front and back of the same little girl a week later he rubbed his dick on her through his pants a week later he says quote this is what he told the cops quote i, I don't want to work with children anymore. It's too risky. What? The fuck?
Starting point is 02:12:31 So the detective knocked the orange slices out of his hands and kicked him out of the fucking. What are you kidding me? Motherfucker. You guys, you're not. These fucking kids, they're rapists. It's I'm going to I'm going to be a victim. Unbelievable. Un-fucking-real. It's going to be a victim. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Un-fucking-real. It's too risky. It's too risky. Like OJ's like, you know what? I'm not going to date blondes anymore. It's too risky. No. You stabbed her and you molested the kid.
Starting point is 02:12:56 It's not risky. It's risky for them. That's crazy. Too risky. He says, quote, also said to the Nassau detective, detective quote i have learned my lesson and would never do anything like that again we hope so and yeah well we'll hope to make sure of it as a matter of fact his lawyer scott carrigan said quote he emphatically denies the charges he's upset and disturbed these allegations seem out of character and came out of nowhere well that's usually how
Starting point is 02:13:20 it works his penis came out of nowhere that's. Dirt bags who like to fucking molest kids usually don't look like dirt bags like to molest kids because, you know, people do keep the fucking kids away from people who look like that. They look like coaches who want to help and have a goddamn tray of orange slices in their fucking hour early. That's what molesters look like for the most part. God damn it. So, wow. So a judge issued an order of protection to block any contact, obviously, with the children. They also intend to investigate other things because there's other people they're talking about. He's been working with an Oyster Bay for the last 10 years, working with kids.
Starting point is 02:13:59 Oh, my God. A decade. A decade. His lawyer said, quote, he has a stellar reputation. I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's got a great, he has a stellar reputation. I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's got a great, as so did every priest. There was lots of them. They're frightened to talk.
Starting point is 02:14:10 The best reputations before they get caught are usually child molesters. Of any criminal, they usually have the best reputation. Because they have to be so. Charismatic. Buttoned the fuck up in the rest of their life. Because what they do is so fucking disgusting that they can't show a crack of it. They have to be so buttoned up. Whereas me and you can be assholes because we're not worried about it.
Starting point is 02:14:29 Because I got nothing else. You can get in my head and look in there with a microscope. I don't give a shit. I have nothing in there to hide. Enjoy. There's not even a tape. Yeah. Not even something that I've seen.
Starting point is 02:14:38 No. No. God, no. Jesus. So he's released on $50,000 bail there. January 2013, he's indicted on more abuse charges oh my god more uh a detective who talked to another little girl said quote i know the difference between a truth and a lie and this is the truth she said talking to a girl who gave a detailed statement about her abuse 2014 uh prosecutor said that the one girl's abuse took place four times
Starting point is 02:15:07 in april 2012 and may 2012 he abused another girl between october 2008 when she was in kindergarten in kindergarten and in may 2012 later on because you know he knew her um his trial is delayed several times due to health issues from him 70s now yeah and 60s 60 yeah and the fact that he hired a uh he hired a uh and dismissed three lawyers so far so um a nassau judge though declared that he was quote ready to go to battle to ensure his trial begin soon. He said, quote, I'm telling you, this case is ready for trial. He said, this case is not going to be stopped because of your health. This is going to be your last adjournment.
Starting point is 02:15:55 We're going to fucking try you no matter how sick you are, asshole. You're sick, all right, and it doesn't matter. Keeps getting forfeited, James. Forfeited. See? It's all forfeits. They allege here that on two occasions, he pressed up against the victim and exposed himself to her and encouraged her to touch him as well.
Starting point is 02:16:14 Wow. This is fucking gross. He underwent spinal fusion surgery. That's why they delayed it originally. Suspended from his job. Outside the courtroom, after he pled. He said, quote, I'm definitely innocent. Okay, great.
Starting point is 02:16:28 His attorney, his latest attorney here, said that he told the judge that the judge told him he should be prepared to try the case soon. And the judge told him, we will go to battle if we have to to get you there. I will be keeping on top of it. have to do to get you there i will be keeping on top of it so uh the the deed the district attorney said that the prosecution's ready to proceed and would even bring in a witness from outside the country to testify so smith's or smith who's torres's lawyer said that torres is quote looking forward to the trial it's been an incredibly emotional burden on him oh i bet on him it must have been terrible now the trial starts jesus christ the prosecutor calls him a man with a quote depraved appetite for young girls who sexually abused two eight-year-olds he was
Starting point is 02:17:12 coaching that is a bad fucking that's a that's a bad caption yeah on your instagram post there that's not a good one that's a bad uh bio on your instagram yeah not a good one he says then the district attorney also says in the opening statement that uh he had inappropriate contact with the girls with through the victims through what the girls knew as bumping oh this is what grosses me out when like the kids know of something they do but they don't know it's wrong but they even have a nickname for it bumping is what they called it when he would touch you with his dick. Fucking disgusting. Quote, he liked to bump her in her private area with his private area.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Oh my God. I'm going to fucking puke. The defense attorney said his client's not a child predator, but rather a beloved retired player who's mentored 40,000 kids, which makes me think he's molested 40 000 kids or at least 4 000 he's not molesting all of them but he's found the two weak ones he knows if he bats a hundred out of that you know what i mean he's predators it's a lot they know who in the herd to pick out they know it 10 know it but he was wrong because this girl went right home and told her parents good so good good for them for them. She had a good enough relationship. 40,000 to one. A one in 40,000 chance that there's even one iota of truth to these allegations of two little girls.
Starting point is 02:18:34 He said parents and others who've referred to themselves as, quote, Coach Rusty groupies faithfully traveled to his baseball sessions. And it's just ridiculous. Absolutely silly here. This is unconscionable can't believe they're doing this to my client uh the d.a said well he exposed himself to the victim and took her into a van uh then then that was on april 30th may 7 2012 in her last session she told torres quote that hurts me when you do that. Ew. She doesn't like it because she's a child. Right. It's fucking horrific. That day, she came home
Starting point is 02:19:09 and abruptly left the dinner table, said her babysitter, who's a college student. The woman's the college student babysitter said, quote, she ran upstairs crying. And the girl asked to speak to her mother that night. She didn't want to talk to the babysitter. And the girl's mother testified that her daughter told her that Torres exposed himself to her. And that Torres, after that, Torres' access to the girls came to a screeching halt.
Starting point is 02:19:36 No shit. A former teammate of his, Ron Bloomberg, remember? He testifies for him on his side. He says, because this is all character. They have to make it believe like these kids must be mistaken and he's a nice guy and they were just mistaken his friendliness for having a hard dick and showing it to them. Right. You know how that goes.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Yeah. A big, hard, golden skin dick. I had a bomb pop. I thought kids liked ice cream. It must be a big mistake. No. Jesus. Ron Bloomberg says, quote, they loved him.
Starting point is 02:20:07 He's, by the way, Major League Baseball's first designated hitter. Ron Bloomberg. Yes. They loved him talking about the kids here. By the way, he's up to seven counts of abuse with girls younger than 11 here. What are you doing, Bloomberg? Jesus. He said he had Bloomberg up there.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Two other defense witnesses, including an expert in clinical and forensic psychology, took the stand for him. Torres did not testify. Bloomberg testified he had not heard any sexual abuse allegations from Torres's students. He said, quote, he's never had any problems. He calls Torres his brother, and he says he knew of none of this shit knew of no bumping or anything else one victim's the defense concentrates on one victim's interview with the police was not recorded in the second one's was that's what they're concentrating on now there's a psychologist here who said he conducted the court-ordered evaluations on the validity of the sex abuse
Starting point is 02:21:00 abuse allegations and testified that it's standard practice to record interviews of sexual abuse victims. He said the recording allows you to help hear the child's words, quote, how they said them, how they responded to questions, whether the questions were posed neutrally, open-ended or closed-ended, you know, if it was being manipulated, the process of the kid. Because if you just have the kid's answers, you could manipulate the kid into saying anything if you really wanted to. So one of the victims was interviewed with her parents in the room, which the psychologist said is not standard. They said, quote, in the presence of any other parties, especially family members, is a strong potential bias.
Starting point is 02:21:36 He also said the videotape interview was not conducted neutrally and the officer posed closed ended questions and used adjectives to describe the girls' interactions with Torres. They're saying they, you know, worked the girls' statements. I mean, you have to if you're a defense attorney, but Jesus Christ. In cross-examination, this psychologist said that they didn't interview anybody. They said, did you interview any of these people? And he said, no, I did not. And they said, well, how the fuck do you know about any of this shit then? So in court, they pointed to one victim.
Starting point is 02:22:13 This is the prosecutor. One victim interviewed at the hospital by herself. The prosecutor said in a videotaped interview, another victim describing, quote, a good touch and bad touch said quote a bad touch was when someone touches you where you don't want to be touched that testimony is expected to continue monday they're going to make closing arguments these kids man i mean you gotta i feel bad two or testifying yeah no seven counts against two girls. Got it. Okay. These four little kids. Against him, four two girls.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Yeah. These two, again, that's against them. Right. They were a little aggressive. Seven counts of rape against these little girls. A little aggressive. Eight-year-old girls. You know how eight-year-old girls get.
Starting point is 02:22:54 Stop touching his dick. I know it's gold. They're pushy. Right. You know what I mean? I know it's gold and it's hard to resist. I mean, these kids, fuck, man. And their parents.
Starting point is 02:23:03 I mean, if you thought you were doing good and putting your K, he played for the Yankees. He's going to teach you. And then all this. I mean, I feel bad for these people, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Rusty Torres. Oh? IT service desk for NYC DOITT, do it, in New York City. Rusty Torres, GM, general manager of Avenger PR Aerospace in Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 02:23:29 Went to Arizona State. Oh, how about that? Look at that. Rusty Torres, Assistant Professor of Business Analytics at the University of North Texas. Jesus Christ. And Rusty Torres, Engineer at Infotech in Puerto Rico. Yeah. And finally, Rusty Torres of Austin,xas who is a retired soldier and law enforcement
Starting point is 02:23:46 officer poor bastard who's like seriously i'm in my 60s damn it so uh girls testify yeah they had the little girls testify in court they sat him on a on a big book yeah so you could see her fucking phone book yep that was a legal book actually uh she you know talked his 11 year old girl testifying she uh said that coach rusty started quote thrusting his private part against her during baseball clinics when she was in kindergarten gross uh he uh she said that uh the touching which she called bumping escalated when she got into third grade and that's when she started thinking something was wrong, you know, because she's just getting older. For three years, he's dry fucking you.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Oh, Jesus Christ. Jesus, fuck. She's now in sixth grade. She says she couldn't, at this point, she couldn't pick him out in court because it had been three years, but she just knew it was Coach Rusty. But she agreed that the coach wore baseball clothes at the clinic and went over the whole thing. She said the last time she went to the clinic was in May 2012, when she saw her friend running from the coach's van looking, quote, scared and grossed out.
Starting point is 02:24:54 Jesus. Two days later, that's when she talked to the police about the coach and all that. During cross-examination, how do you cross-examine an 11 year old abused girl i mean you've got to as it's your job but how do you do it to where it doesn't fuck your client i don't know grab a dodo and be like what is this dude yeah i don't know have you ever seen this no okay and i've just ruined more never been molested yeah it's fucking ridiculous so during cross-examination here the girl tells uh his attorney, Rusty's attorney, that Torres never kissed her. He never showed her his private parts or asked to see hers.
Starting point is 02:25:32 She also agreed, this was only the one, she agreed that until she saw her friend by the coach's van, she liked training with him. She also said during questioning here that his private part was against her when she was leaning in a catcher's position, that he would bump her into a proper position when she was learning to scoop ground balls. And sometimes bumped his private parts into her when he lifted and lowered her from the pull up bar. But after more questions, the girl agreed that the grinding the coach did against her was different from putting her in a baseball stance. The D.A. came up and said, yeah, is that the same or is that different? She said, no, it's different. So they tried to point out, the defense tried to point out inconsistencies
Starting point is 02:26:14 regarding location of inappropriate touching. Fuck you. She testified that Torres made her touch him and exposed himself to her in his van. Wow. The defense attorney said, well, she didn't specifically say where she touched him and where he exposed her in the grand jury testimony. So I don't know why we're letting this in now. The assistant district attorney here told the judge that the defense lawyers characterizations were disingenuous. And but they they said they basically they made him clarify. It's just ridiculous that they were doing this.
Starting point is 02:26:51 The victim here, she testified that she didn't tell him to stop because she was nervous and she's a child. Right. And quote, wasn't sure what he was doing was wrong. Nervous is she doesn't even know that's not what that is. It's not nervous. It's fucking terrifying. She said, I wasn't sure what he was doing wrong because she doesn't even know that's not what that is yeah it's not nervous it's fucking terrifying yeah she said i wasn't sure what he was doing was wrong because she's a child that's how fucking oh my god um she said that she uh she told torres she felt uncomfortable
Starting point is 02:27:15 and then she told her mom that day uh now testifying for the prosecution uh they also the the court appointed person said that the victim drew a picture of male genitalia while waiting with her parents to be interviewed by police then she scratched it out when people saw so she was drawing dicks unbelievable because that's what she remembers poor fucking kid but then was like hiding it like oh like she's trying to hide it from her parents that she knew it it's i feel so bad for that kid. Jesus Christ. He also took her in the van both of those days. The first day, inappropriately touched her.
Starting point is 02:27:49 Second day, exposed herself. We talked about that. Wow. Jesus Christ. He declined to comment outside the courtroom, but his lawyer says that he felt, quote, a great deal of compassion for what the child was going through, testifying. Yeah, I'm sure it's a great deal of compassion. child was going through testifying yeah i'm sure it's a great deal of compassion uh uh july 31st 2014 he is found guilty uh by a jury of five counts of sexual abuse uh of an eight-year-old girl he is uh he's acquitted of a couple of charges that he abused the second girl and this
Starting point is 02:28:19 is nine men nine women three men jury here uh uh this is he's convicted of rubbing up against the girl whether he worked as a baseball coach and uh slightly aroused and all that jesus his lawyer said mr torres is obviously gravely disappointed and i'm gravely disappointed we believe there were reasonable doubts jesus so he's free on fifty thousand dollars bail waiting for sentencing now during sentencing the judge says quote as a professional athlete people looked up to this defendant and trusted him to teach america's favorite pastime to their children instead he violated that trust and committed horrible acts against a defenseless young girl there's nothing that can erase the hurt and pain caused by this
Starting point is 02:29:01 defendant i hope this sentence will provide a measure of justice for his victims and her loved ones. You, sir, may fuck off three years in prison and three years in prison, 10 years of post-supervision release, and also lifelong sex offender registration. Lifelong. Fuck you. That's great. And also in prison, he's not going to have an easy time. No, it's going to be tough.
Starting point is 02:29:24 It's not going to be good. What year was this? This was 2014. Okay. So he's out of prison now, but we don't know here. So he's gone. Like I said, 10 years of post-supervision release and sex offender registration. Wow.
Starting point is 02:29:39 His lawyers claim that jurors were manipulated into changing their votes to end deliberations a judge shot down those claims upheld the first guilty verdict and gave torres the finger as he walked out of the court i hope can only hope so jesus christ thanks rusty right rosie what do you like what do you like being called least uh so uh on thursday or the day after the his attorney said that his client was quote sad about the sentence and maintains his innocence can't get enough of all rusty torres well you can buy his card there's a 19 a pretty cool look in 1977 los angeles angels at the time anaheim or california at the time baseball card here uh good condition dollar $1.75 plus $4.49 shipping. For a child molester?
Starting point is 02:30:25 For a child molester. There's a million of them out there. Must be a nickel. You don't need it. Yeah, $4.49 shipping is the thing here. That's crazy. Only one left in stock. Get yours now.
Starting point is 02:30:33 Right. That is Rusty Torres. Wow. And a whole lot of mess right there. He's out there. He's out there. Free to touch kids. Hopefully not anywhere near.
Starting point is 02:30:42 I assume. I mean, he's got to be. Part of his post i hope there's some supervision being happened frequently part of his like post-supervision release has to be you're not allowed to be around kids he's a sex offender he's a convicted he's a fucking registered sex offender so but he's out there and uh jesus i'm just that was so guess what everybody last week was like oh that's so sad and i don't feel bad laughing at john kardick i feel bad laughing at John Kortek.
Starting point is 02:31:05 I feel better now? Yeah. No, right? Then shut the fuck up and let us tell our stories. Jesus. This is a spite show. Yeah. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:31:16 It's gross. That's wild, man. That wasn't a spite show. I'm only kidding. We love you guys. We're joking. There's zero to feel bad about for that guy. No, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 02:31:22 This guy sucks. And you wanted to like him up until then, too. Yeah, you like the cocaine you're like oh man come on get a good job i hope somebody takes him in maybe a team hires him you didn't make any goddamn money that's what i'm saying today's money yeah that's what i mean so you feel bad for him and then that happens you're like oh god never mind monster right monster so jesus christ if you like that show you can tell us all about it please do get on apple podcast or even stitcher you can do that the purple icons apple podcast tell us you're following instructions following directions let us know you're out there and enjoying the show we like that we like to hear all that stuff and it helps drive us up the up
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