Crime in Sports - #195 - When Sad Becomes Stupid - The Insistentness of Mookie Blaylock

Episode Date: February 11, 2020

This week, we celebrate our 4th anniversary, and head down the road with a man who certainly shouldn't be driving. He fought his way from community college, to a big time program, to being an NBA All-Star, seemingly using nothing but will, and determination. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to have the determination to not get arrested. His actions escalated, until a seemingly inevitable tragedy takes place. Will he ever learn his lesson? Fight your way to the NBA all-star game, get very stoned before every game, and always drink as much as possible before you drive with Mookie Blaylock!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's what I mean. All the famous ones. We have so many coming up, too. People have said left tons of people are left oh my god the aforementioned big guys there people like a few weeks from now we're gonna have scotty pippen oh wait what oh yeah we're gonna have scotty pippen oh yeah kurt angle we're gonna have the wait he was a bad guy too squeaky queen looks clean olymp. Squeaky Queen. Squeaky Queen. I can't speak. For four years,

I've lost my ability to speak. I want to call him a Squeaky Queen. All of the, we have so many big names coming up to it. In addition to the crazy stories like last week, nobody's ever heard of that guy,

but the story's insane. So there you go. And this week, we have a guy that you will recognize if you were around in the 90s at all. I was.

And if you weren't, then you'll just hear a crazy story. So let's check it out. Let's do this. We're going to the NBA this week. Great. NBA 90s.

This is my sweet spot. Yeah. Yeah. I watched the 30 for 30 on the Orlando Magic recently. Wait, what? The 90s Orlando Magic with like Shaq and Penny. Yeah. Oh, it's great.

Really? For just that. Scott Skiles and Anderson. Just that. Oh, Nick Anderson. Yeah. And Dennis Scott. Yeah. Eddie Royal. There's so many. Oh, my God. penny yeah oh it's great really for just that scott skiles and anderson just that oh nick andy yeah just and uh dennis scott yeah just that there's so many oh my god just hearing that there wasn't any it was a royal but not eddie i don't think i know another guy with the last name royal that i know so it's maybe dennis but uh it was dennis scott okay it was the three-point

shooter okay but yeah this uh it was really fun and And just hearing that NBA on NBC music. That's ESPN. That's SportsCenter. But there was a... What was the ending song? And then it started over again. That's it. There was an ending that sounded similar.

I think I liked the low-key guitar version when they were talking over it. Tonight on NBC. Welcome to Houston. Marv Albert. Yes, I'll bite that ass. Yes. Marv Albert's one of those guys

they should have forced him to broadcast from prison. Not paid him or anything, but should have been part of his sentence. You must keep broadcasting for the public good because you're the best basketball broadcaster ever. Chickard, maybe to you guys like that. But, you know, other than that, please keep doing it. But you're a terrible man. You need to be put away.

We got to hear the bars clanking in between him saying, yes, that's Scottie Pippen for three. Every commercial break, there'll be a disclaimer saying that you're a sexual deviant, and then we'll hear you announce more. Scott Skiles from the corner. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, that documentary, it was like, oh, 90s basketball. So very interested in that this week.

So that's where we're going. We're going to talk about Darren O'Shea Blaylock, better known as Mookie. Mookie Blaylock's real name is not mookie blaylock it's not mookie is nobody's real name i don't think i'll bet mookie betts his real name is mookie and i'll bet he's named after blaylock mookie wilson not his real name nope just nicknames people gave him and it's always just like a nonsense nickname it's never a nickname like he did this and that so we called him mookie it's just like i don't know my little brother called me mookie and then everyone called me mookie like it's always a story like that say his name again darren d-a-r-o-n yeah oh shay yeah o-s-h-a-y like ice cubes real name and then uh

blaylock interesting yeah so uh mookie all right we'll go with Mookie. That's how you get that. The Mookster. Born March 20th, 1967, the Mookster is here, down in Garland, Texas. Really? And he's a Texas kind of guy. Yeah. Like, he's a, yeah, it's interesting. He's like kind of a quiet, we'll talk about it later, keeps him dipping his lip and that kind of guy. Yeah, he's like a, he's like, yeah.

Mookie Wilson? Mookie Blaylock. I don't know about, I race. Mookie Wilson? Mookie Blaylock. I don't know about him. I'm sure Mookie Wilson did too. He played baseball. Now I'm never going to stop seeing that name. We'll see Mookie Wilson running up the line while the ball goes through Buckner's legs.

Mookie Blaylock was so little too. 6'1". Was he that big? Yeah, 6'1". It's amazing how little 6'1 looks in the NBA. Remember Kevin Johnson on the Suns? He's 6'1". He looked like he was 5'3".

Getting clotheslined, going up the lane. And Mookie was the same type of guy. But then again, Mookie had that challenge of playing in a front court with Dikembe Mutombo behind him. Yeah, well, Mookie was a defender, man. He was sticky. He was a great defender. He's known for his defense. Same as defense.

Yeah, he's an amazing defender, as we'll talk about here. He could dunk, too. Oh, yeah, Mookie could get up. Mookie could score. Mookie had a good game. He really did. He was a decent player. He's not a superstar, but he's not a scrub bench guy, either. He's a legit starter, you know, decent player.

He was designated Mookie by his older sisters, who used to watch him, and they just called him Mookie. Weird. No reason. One day, Mom came home from work, and this is Mookie now. I'm just calling him Mookie. Everybody started calling him Mookie, and it stuck.

When I was a kid, though, calling him Mookie Blaylock felt racist. It almost feels racist. It really does, but that's his name. It doesn't feel like a good name. It's the cornbread fiasco, as we talked about. i don't know if that was on here or small town murder but i think it was here i think it was here the guy we knew named cornbread that people felt they were like i don't know i don't want to call you cornbread he's like my mama call me cornbread he was like what the fuck call me cornbread exactly what he said he's like i'm from mississippi i love cornbread he was like that corn how I feel about Mookie. He's like, I'm from Mississippi. I love cornbread.

Cornbread is a compliment in Mississippi. We love that shit down there. Okay, so Mookie. There we go. Sounds like cookie. I just feel like Mookie's a kind of a cookie. I suppose that's true. I don't ever think I ever even assimilated them with each other.

I see a small child like a big cookie. Like the oversized one? No, like two Milanos long. Like that. Like a big cookie yeah like a big like the oversized one no like a dub like two milanos long like that like a long like a big cookie that's a mookie keep carrying it around one of these hands i want a mookie like drumsticks yeah exactly double milano so uh he's a quiet guy too real quiet there's no shit talking at all and he says like as a kid everybody else shit talked so he was like everybody does it for me i don't need to shit talk he's just a quiet he's not that type of guy he doesn't even with his teammates he's not like a guy who's like quiet around the media and quiet and then gets in the locker room hey guys what's

he's just like that always really gets in there sits down you don't even know he's there it's one of these guys were like shit did shit, did Mookie show? Oh, there he is. All right, cool. Yeah, I've been here since three. Fuck. Did you notice Mookie? I said he's been here since three.

It's game time, I guess. Let's go out. He's just sitting there dressed and taped and ready to go. So that's the kind of dude he was. He grows up in Garland, Texas. That's where he's born and kind of raised here. And it's a pretty kind of a rough area in this area. It's the east side of Garland, Texas here,'s where he's born and kind of raised here. And it's a pretty kind of a rough area in this area. It's the east side of Garland, Texas here, which is outside of Dallas.

He said he just was, because also, too, he wasn't a big guy growing up. He's only 6'1", so he's not a huge dude growing up. So he just kind of keeps to himself. He said he kept his head down and kept quiet going to play ball. He played at the playgrounds and everything like that, but he just kind of kept his head down and kept quiet going to play ball but the you know he played the playgrounds and everything like that but he just kind of kind of kept his head down didn't talk any shit just played his game and that he's the type of guy too he's an unselfish player right so he's the type of guy that if you're in a play if you're a playground guy and you're quiet he's he's the assistant he'll play d hard he throws assists he's that kind of guy and doesn't doesn't want to get flashy

it's almost like he wants to play but have you not notice him there too right you know what i mean like he's fundamental stick to the rules get the ball to the hole and score fundamentally sound and and quiet and oh maybe they won't notice me yeah i'll end up with like six steals and a bunch of rebounds and some assists and you know a few points but maybe they'll go did that guy play that's fascinating is he here it's his whole fucking career. He had five steals? Jesus Christ, I didn't even know he was here. He just summed up his whole career. That's it.

That's the kind of guy he is. He goes to Garland High, where he's a star player. I'm sure. And he really is, too. He's a beast on the court. I mean, he is nasty. That guy, if you remember him in the NBA, the intensity he played defense with,

he had that in high school so he was killing people i don't think i ever remember seeing that man smile mookie no he's he's not a gregarious guy he's not everyone says he's nice he's just very quiet and reserved and to himself and and just chill he's a chill kind of guy angry face on him though yeah he's not really angry he's just kind of just a just kind of there just a face just mellow just he's very just nondescript he's one of those guys where he's in a lot of places that you would never notice like he's he's almost like forrest gump like in forrest gump they would show i fucking hate that asshole but they would they would show like the you know pictures in history and he's just like in the background he's always there looking on like a dipshit yeah that's mookie you're just like was he there too i don't remember that i guess he was mookie gump forest

mookie gump that's our guy here the mookster the gumpster so uh he gets in trouble early in his life here as senior year in high school he gets he gets in trouble for marijuana for the first time really yep senior year in high school down, down in Texas in the early 80s. That's a scourge. I mean, good Lord. It was probably homegrown. I mean, that's the other thing, too. It was probably terrible weed.

80s, it was brick shit, brown, smelled like ammonia and lawn clippings. If he didn't grow it, somebody brought it from fucking El Cajon. Nasty. What's that? No, that's in fucking South Central. Juarez or something. Yeah, Juarez. That's a lot.

Seeds and just a couple seeds get in there by accident because it's so shitty and no good. It's a lot of popping and headaches. Stems everywhere. Yeah. I think I'm stoned. I definitely have a headache. I'm not sure. I definitely hurt.

I'm not sure if I'm stoned or not, though. a headache i'm not sure if i'm stoned or not though but uh this was for in his senior year and he got in trouble for it at a bad time too yeah because this is right before the district championship game in his senior year of high school and so he gets arrested for that and he gets suspended for the game the school suspends him for this as well this was like you know texas in the 80s this was a big goddamn deal. And so he is suspended for the district championship game in his senior year of high school, too. That's not good at all.

It's like his last game as a high school kid, and he can't play in it. So that's not good. Right. He's got bad timing, too. We'll find out. His timing is not wonderful.

Just when you're like, okay, good, he's fine. Oh, Jesus, what the fuck's he doing now? It's one of those things. His timing is remarkable. His behavior throws him bad assists. That's the thing, yeah. He's assisting his bad behavior.

Jesus Christ. And no look pass was unadvised. Ill-advised no look pass there. So 1985, 1986, because of this trouble, and because he hasn't come from a huge high school or anything like that, he ends up going to a community college at first. He doesn't go to a major school. Really? Because, yeah, he's got a little stink on him about the weed and missing a game.

If he would have been able to play in the game, nobody would have even noticed it probably. But the fact that he missed a game, they go, why wasn't he in that game oh you know because scouts go to look well where the fuck is that kid i've been looking at all year oh he got suspended for he got caught with weed oh well that's immature yeah i don't know if we're gonna go after him anymore and then recruit recruiting became pretty soft and he ended up at midland community college so that's you know it's a little different that feels shitty that's yeah it's a little different than going to a major school. But a few other people, a couple other people that have made the NBA have actually played at Midland Community College, including Spud Webb. No kidding.

Spud Webb was an alumni. They ended up being teammates. Yeah, he's an alumni. That's wild. Alumni of this school, which is pretty amazing. And a few other guys, nobody that played very long. Everyone played like a year. Jerome Beasley, Ricky Grace, skeeter henry oh boy uh nathan jowai

not really great nothing nobody's spectacular but spud and mookie came out so undersized guards undersized guards with nicknames that played for the hawks that's true that's wild that's true you see it's funny because you see a ton of point, like centers is if somebody sees that you're seven foot tall and can move around without tripping over your own feet, they'll find you. Right. You know what I mean? They'll find you, they'll bring you in, and they'll work with you.

But if you're like smaller, then you have to like prove yourself up the line. Yeah, it's a different thing. Point guards, you always see those scrappy point guards. And you know, this guy came from, he played in the Canadian League for a year, and now he's in the NBA and worked their way in. This guy's a Canadian soccer player. We let him in. Somehow, here he is hitting jumpers.

So his first year at Midland here, he plays in 34 games, and he averages 16.8 points a game, 3.2 rebounds, 4.6 assists. Fine season for a freshman year for him uh 86 87 he's at midland again plays in 33 games uh this time 19.6 a game a whole extra rebound 4.2 and 4.9 assists per game too so he's doing well yeah he's doing well enough to get the attention of some you know big schools you big Division I school. At Midland, too, he was like the junior college All-American team, whatever.

He's a standout. He's a standout there, so he definitely gets noticed. And he gets recruited to Oklahoma. So that's obviously a big powerhouse school. Oklahoma's a major sports school, clearly. And this team has a lot of NBA players on it when you look at it. The one he ends up with here,

Stacey King is on this team. Harvey Grant's on this team. Harvey Grant? Yeah, remember Harvey Grant? He was on the Blazers for a long time because Horace Grant was much more popular. Got it. Is he a poor man's Horace Grant?

He's a 6'8 forward too. He's a power forward, blends in. Do you have goggles? I don't believe Harvey had goggles. I don't know if he's related. We're not going to have another Lemieux situation here. We're not going to do it. I'm not positive about Harvey. I hope they're not. Horace and Harvey though,

that seems like the same parents would name their children Horace and harvey though that's that seems like the same parents would name their children horace and harvey doesn't it like oh one after your grandfather and one after mine that's you know that is so close one of those but yeah stacy king harvey grant mookie blaylock this is a it's a squad you know it's not too shabby here it's a pretty good good uh good team and uh this stacy king play for the hawks too i think for a while he Hawks, too? I think for a while. I think he did. He was on the Bulls, I think, for a while.

Stacey King. I see red. Yeah. I see red jerseys on him. So 87-88 Sooners. Like I said, powerhouse team. They end up going 35-4. That's great.

Oh, they were a really nasty team. They averaged 102.9 points a game, which is a lot for a college team. That's an exciting college team. Way too many college games are 67-63, you know what I mean? That's pretty awesome. They end up going to the tournament, NCAA tournament, number one seed in their bracket. First round, they beat Chattanooga. That's a 116 matchup.

Fucking well better. 94-66. They thump them good. Second round, they beat auburn 107 87 okay pretty nasty uh third round 108 98 they beat number five seed louisville so getting so close these are getting yeah well i mean they're playing better teams now louisville's a good team uh then they play uh next round 78 59 wow against villanova that's great villanova is one of those uh slow the ball down we have less talent colleges in the 80s.

Slow down, we got a lot of white guys. Yeah, we have a very good system. But the system depends on us, on athleticism not coming into this factory. Much like Providence did a lot. You'll see Penn will be in the tournament. It's a lot of passing and then a good solid three-point shot that they got off. We only need to get two of those for every three of their possessions. Let's take some of the running out of basketball, shall we?

All this running and jumping. Let's put that aside. Try to make it a game of strategy, I feel like. So Villanova was a little. They had good players, too, but don't get me wrong. But they were just a little less than some of the other schools. It's a consistent thing for them, too.

Yeah, and I know they won a national championship, but still, now there was a lot of good strategy. So then they go to the... They're going all the way to the Final Four here, and they play another No. 1 seed, Arizona, the Wildcats, and they win 86 78 to go all the way to the final game national championship national championship against kansas and this i believe if i'm not mistaken was danny manning i believe this is right before this

is a senior year i want to say it's kansas is a pretty stacked team and uh this game 83 79 they lose oklahoma so all the way to the final game, though. And, yeah, I mean, he plays 39 games for them. He plays in every game. Shitload of minutes. I mean, he piles it on. Minutes per game, 34.5. What a story so far.

Yeah, he's... He turned it around. He's crushing it. 16.4 points a game, 4.2 rebounds, which is the same as he had in community college, and 5.9 assists, which is more assists than he had in community college. So he got better. Well, he's got people on his team that are better shooters. Yeah, that's going to help with assists.

A little bit of talent, your assists go up. That's a good point. Yeah, if you throw to someone and it's a perfect pass and he's wide open, but he misses it. He's a shit midland. They probably don't have great shooters, I'm thinking, at Midland. Or anybody that's not throwing oops to a lot of guys at Midland. That stat right there requires a lot of teamwork. It's a lot of teamwork.

Now, while at Oklahoma here, he meets a woman. Okay. He meets a young lady. Yeah. He meets a woman named Janelle Woods. She sounds Oklahoman. She is. She's a young lady. Yeah. He meets a woman named Janelle Woods. She sounds Oklahoman. She is. She's a volleyball player at the university.

So he meets an athletic lady, and he ends up, this is the woman he's going to marry, and have a bunch of kids with. Okay. So they are just athletes. They're making athletes. It's fucking a volleyball player and a basketball player. Our kids are going to be able to jump and they're going to be athletic it'll be amazing yeah if you if you

were like if you were a guy or a woman who was like i want to make kids who are athletes too you'd find these you know a basketball player and a volleyball player that's like the two most athletic people there are so you know that's perfect so uh and we'll talk about their kids they're all spectacular. Really? All of them are amazing athletes. Yeah. He's got a son right now who is like really, a really great college football player.

That's awesome. Like a top tier college football player. Yeah. One of the top five wide receivers in the nation. Got mom's shoulders. Recruits. Yeah. Apparently so.

That's awesome. So, yeah. He says, Mookie does, about Oklahoma. When I came out here, the style, Tubbs is the coach, by the way, the style Tubbs played was right up my alley. I fit in well. And he also, they talk about how quiet he is in this article about him in, about Oklahoma. It's like he's stoned. That's, it is. in about oklahoma it's like he's stoned that's it is later on a uh a pr guy for an nba team will say that mookie quote might be the quietest player i've ever had he's really shy doesn't like to be

in the limelight just goes out and does his job and goes home just doesn't like i said don't even know he's there was mookie here is he here and so far it's such a great story i love this it's so yeah they say even like the coach said it's not just they talked to you know to uh tubs the uh the coach and he said it's not even just the media he's a lot of the guys don't want to talk to the media they give him a quick answer and we try our hardest hopefully next time we'll do better you know it's a good game everybody whole team played well today on the next week on the next week they give him that shit he goes he does it to me he said i can't i don't can't get fucking five words out of him he said literally i don't know the kids have been an enigma he said quote among all the records that mookie set while he was a

sooner the two that will never be broken are fewest words ever spoken to the head coach or the media he's the opposite of every athlete we talk about he won the bill billichick of oklahoma yeah he's like he's literally like the opposite we crime and sports you think of somebody who's like huge ego flashy throwing money around and influence yeah you know yap and flight mayweather you know what i mean that's what you think of is automatically a mayweather type and then complete opposite in mookie blaylock it's kind of why we had to do him today. He's a famous guy that's total opposite of what we've been doing.

Fewest words ever spoken to the head coach or media. Fucking awesome. So, 88-89 is his senior year. Team at Oklahoma here goes 30-6, which is pretty damn good. They go to the tournament as a No. 1 seed again, which is fantastic. They win in the first round, 72-71.

Wow. To a 16 seed. That's not good at all. But it's great that you win. It's great that you win. East Tennessee State. And you can tell that was a wake-up call. That was like, oh, shit, we thought that'd be easy.

Anybody could beat us. Yeah, they went out drinking the night before or something, because the next game against Louisiana Tech, they win 124- 81 fucking thumping pouring it on 43 points just saying yeah we're gonna go out 124 in a tournament scoreboard counts how often do you see 124 in a college game that's not like quadruple overtime or something like you'd never see 124 anymore that's that's some talent yeah like think about how much talent's out there just nba players on every team all over the place. And then they end up No. 5, Virginia. They play next, and they lose 86-80 there.

And, yeah, there's something. Before the tournament, though, he has a bit of a bump in the road that we'll talk about. We'll give you his stats here quick. Because he played in 35 games. He plays 38.8 minutes a game, which is a lot. That's all of it. All of it. 20 points even per game.

20 points, 4.7 rebounds, 6.7 assists. Wow. That's impressive. Yeah. For a point guard, that's a line right there. He's not like a traditional point guard, too. He kind of didn't fit in as any of the other, but he ends up pretty much just being the point guard after a while but uh after the last game of the season before the tournament uh they win against nebraska and then uh he must have gone out that night of course to

party because march 5th 1989 at about 4 a.m which is always bad whenever we start out with it's about 4 a.m there's a problem it's not like he's just got up ate a couple of you know egg whites right and went out for a jog and then that's never that and then witnessed a car accident it's always he's still out in college and it's march that's not it's bad yeah it's college it's yeah he's celebrating the end of the season tournament coming up number one seed right you know this is his last thing and running college it's got a lot to celebrate 4 a.m yeah so uh he's gonna end up in jail that night obviously clearly uh he and uh kathy patterson a 24 year old woman of arlington texas here who is his quote his companion some chick he knows he's hanging out with apparently we're inside of a convenience

store and fighting in the convenience store. What? To the point where they were knocking things over. What the fuck? Not in a physical fight, but arguing and then getting angry and throwing chips and shit. Oh, God. Acting a fool in the grocery store at four in the morning. So the clerk is like, Jesus Christ.

Tonight? Back then, too. I make $2 an hour to sit here and wait to be shot between the eyes for 18 that's in the register and you fucking assholes have to argue in my store so this this guy calls the cops right so uh yeah cops come and uh they were gonna let him go they said all right everybody calm down you're not allowed in the store they give them like a trespass warning like they don't want you back. So you guys can't come back here.

Oh, Jesus. The cops tell the one police officer said that Mookie, quote, he displayed the characteristics of an intoxicated person here. So they were going to let him go on that. Right. But then they get outside and apparently they couldn't shut the fuck up and stop arguing outside. Oh, Jesus.

So they kept they go out. They literally were like, OK, you guys just go home and I won't arrest you. And they were like, oh, no, no. We need to argue in the parking lot of the grocery store. And the police said, no, you don't. You can continue this when you get out of jail tomorrow. So they arrest him and he's arrested for public intoxication here. It's just not good. No.

It's not a good look for the school. No, no. Because, number one, obviously's going into the tournament they're a number one seed there's a lot of focus on them but number two a bunch of football players just got arrested for drugs recently that season like one got arrested for like selling drugs to an fbi like an fbi investigation you'd think that any athlete at the school would just keep it fucking keep it together yeah this is like already in trouble they're super sensitive about shit right now you can't be uh trompson all over pork rinds in a 7-eleven at 4 a.m you can't do that shit yeah

they let they're gonna let them leave and just get a ride from somebody home and then uh change their mind after they they wouldn't stop arguing outside and uh yeah the uh police one of the other police officers the lieutenant uh leonard judy said quote if he had just done what what he said he was going to do and got a ride home with this other gentleman we would have been all right uh but when it seems like the only remedy but when it seems like to be uh to be the only remedy for what seems like it is going to be a continuing problem, we have very little choice but to go ahead and make an arrest. It makes sense. The cop

said, we're not looking to arrest people for public intoxication. We'll tell you to go home and if you're an asshole, then you have to go to jail. It's Oklahoma. We expect you to be drunk. Just don't be belligerent about it. When we tell you to go home, say, alright. And then go home. Don't have a Pringles food fight in public. Then don't be belligerent about it. When we tell you to go home, say, all right, and then go home.

Don't have a Pringles food fight in public. Yeah, then don't continue to argue. So what is the silver-haired middle-aged reaction to this? Oh, boy. The coach, well, the coach, it's going into a tournament, though, so they're kind of downplaying it. They really want to win this tournament. They need him.

So, yeah, the coach, Billy Tubbs, he said that he was, quote, this is, you could almost almost it's a standard quote. Yeah. Every time when they're trying to, like, push it, push off a decision till the fervor goes away. This is over. This is what they say. He's, quote, aware of the situation involving Mookie Blaylock. And we're, quote, currently talking with everyone involved to make sure that all the facts have been checked out.

In other words, hopefully you'll forget about this and then we won't have to do anything about it so we're going for any chance of that but until then i'm opening up the uh silver age silver you know the guy silver haired middle-aged white man that man opening up his his glossary and index and pairing together a bullshit statement was this uh aware yeah and uh need to have all the facts those are the two i'm aware it's like a mad lips yeah i'm aware yeah but i don't know all the facts i'm aware there's a situation yeah that's been brought to my attention something happened i'm aware you guys got an article in the paper facts though you know what we're gonna have to come back on that one i'm not sure so then he says he goes on to get even more silver his hair's changing so to silver as he's talking after we are very sure of everything then i will

meet with donnie duncan i think he's the athletic director and make the proper decision after we're sure of everything you know then he said most of all we want this to be handled fairly and not be blown out of proportion by others who are not involved. In other words, when you stop asking me about it, then I'll do something because I don't want to do what you want me to do. Right. The athletic director said that they would, quote, have to get the facts before we can comment on a speculative situation. Not a lot of facts.

No. Shit-faced outside, not listening to the cops, got taken to fucking jail. Not the biggest deal. Right. He could have just said, he's a college kid. He was out drinking and him and his girlfriend were arguing and the cops, you know, they wanted to fucking jail. Not the biggest deal. He could have just said, he's a college kid. He was out drinking and him and his girlfriend were arguing and the cops, you know, they wanted to take it. Nobody would have cared.

Everyone in Oklahoma knows drunk. They get that. Is she the volleyball player? Yeah. No, this was a different woman. Different woman. It's not even his girlfriend. No, no, no.

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Then he says, quote, Billy and I have talked, talking about the coach. What we're trying to do is get all the information. In another statement, same thing. We've not reached a decision or discussed a decision that would affect Mookie and the team. But we have a game in a couple days, so we're definitely not going to make it until after that.

We're not asking questions either. I mean, we're not asking questions, but if we get the answers, we'll look at them. We're not going to ask about it. God, no. But someone, if you have answers or something, you want to slip them in a note in my box. Put them in the suggestion box. Put them maybe under my door at night. We'll have a gander at them.

Tell you what, just drop it in any garbage can you see and I'll find it. Any receptacle around the building. We have two halves to play. When those are over, we'll discuss it. We'll worry about that. We'll look at those scraps of paper. How long does a tournament last? So later that month after the tournament, he ends up

in court on this and pleads no contest to an amended charge of disturbing the peace and they give him a six month deferred sentence which is you know which is nothing don't get in trouble and it's off your record here uh they ended up they ended up uh they end up suspending him for a game uh they said quote this type of conduct will not be condoned not be uh said with dave duncan or donnie duncan in a statement here uh the uh uh yeah it's it's in a post-season tournament though it's not in the actual tournament it's in the big eight conference post-season tournament uh yeah so not quite

the same as missing a tournament game he said it's against colorado and this coach says quote despite being suspended for the colorado game i have confidence in Mookie Blaylock, both as a person and a player. He still is a member of our basketball family. And even though everyone concerned has learned a valuable lesson, we fully support him. Very silver statement right there. We've thought about it and we picked the game that we're least likely to lose without him. And he's suspended for that. Now, never again, sir.

I think everyone's learned their lesson now. Right. Right? Yeah. They won. Everything was fine. So they get a deferred sentence. It can be erased off his record, like we said.

He's also fined $69 in fees and court costs. Oh, that's expensive. But he is an NCAA AP All-America second team this year. Second team. Second team. That's great. Second best point guard in the nation is what they're saying. Not bad. Not too shabby. So all that doesn't really

mean much in the NBA either because they're like, oh, in the NBA, that cop would let you go. There's a difference. You wouldn't be in that small town. Yeah, they wouldn't be in that small town. They'll be in the city where everyone's drunk and yelling at each other. It's fine. They'll drop you off at home and then get that woman that you're yelling at who happens to not be

your girlfriend or wife and get her the fuck out of here too. And yeah, where can he go where everyone's yelling at each other? Where do you think?

Let's talk about it here. June 27th, 1989 is the NBA draft. Yeah. We'll see where he can go. Land somewhere where no one, you can yell in the streets

at will. Okay? The 89 draft is an interesting draft here. It seems like kind of an off year, if I'm being honest. I'm trying to think of who got drafted in 89. Number one draft pick, Purvis Ellison. Wow. Yeah, never nervous Purvis.

I mean, it's a decent pick. Purvis is a good player, but not a number one overall pick. No, he's not Michael Jordan. No, he's a 21 overall player, and you go, that's a good pick yeah he's a solid player for a long time real good but not a not a formidable you know mvp candidate you go to the clippers uh he went to the kings okay uh second overall danny ferry oh good big goofy white danny ferry of the clippers oh my god yeah that's jeez even he was painful to watch play. He didn't even have good stats, but he just looked terrible.

I mean, I get it. He's a goofy white guy, but some goofy white guys didn't look that goofy. They could still play. He wasn't one of them. He didn't even... When the fashion changed in the NBA, thanks to college basketball, with the bigger, baggier basketball shorts, it kind of looked cool. Thank you, Michigan. He still stuck with...

Thank you, Fab Five five for that shit jaylen rose especially and chris weber we really really appreciate that he's still hung on to the sack chillers and kept wearing them absolutely oh boy certain guys did him stockton i hated it yeah everyone on utah we don't want to offend the mormons big shorts offend the mormons every single clipper uh uh no clippers kind of start no with the clippers the calves oh mark price's shorts were up his ass and brad doherty had no choice no and he's like eight feet tall too so he looked like a goofball in those tiny shorts but thank you as as teen as 90s teenagers right holy shit did we appreciate the baggier shorts i never had to wear nut huggers playing basketball.

Big old baggy shorts. The boxer shorts became a popular thing to wear, and you would not be able to wear those under those fucking tiny calf shorts. Oh, God, they'd be sticking out the bottoms of them. You'd have to tuck one under your ball so it wouldn't pop out the side. I just, for the life of me, cannot understand why they kept doing it. I get it in the 70s, that was kind of the style, but even by the 80s, it was like

you're really going to run around... Can you keep doing it? You're going to run around looking like Dangle on Reno 911. Why would you do it? What are you doing? Wearing your hot pants? They weren't even shorts, they were hot pants. So as Daisy Duke started wearing them shorter, that's when men's shorts started getting longer.

Or should have. Right. Anyway. There's a delay, unfortunately. We don't want your hairy ass hanging out. We want her smooth one hanging out. That's fine. It looks a lot better.

You put your- Danny Ferry, your thighs are too hairy. Put your hairy left ball away. It just fell out of your fucking leg. So Danny Ferry to the Clippers. Yeah. Sean Elliott goes to the Spurs, Spurs. That's a good pick. Glenn Rice, number four.

We've talked about Glenn Rice. He went out with a vice presidential candidate here. J.R. Reid, number five, was a pretty good player with Charlotte there. Stacey King, his teammate, goes to the Bulls, number six. George McLeod. Remember George McLeod? He also played for the Hornets.

He got drafted by the Pacers yeah he was a fucking good player he was on the Suns for a while George McLeod was he really he ended up on the Suns for a while probably

yeah he was a good player George Randy White Tom Hammonds Pooh Richardson oh yeah getting Pooh did they get Pooh Richardson

and who went before him Tom Hammonds went to the Bullets and then Pooh Richardson to the Timberwolves who are a new team and then the first pick of the Orlando Magic

is Nick Anderson this year as well. That's their expansion draft. That's their first overall. That's their guy. And Nick Anderson was a solid player for years for them

and set them those free throws. But yeah, good coach now. Poor bastard, man. Oh, that documentary they get on and you can just see it. His whole...

It just hurt him, man. Just fell apart. Certain guys, he was like Rick Ankeel that couldn't hit the fucking catcher's mitt or something. He just lost it, man. He knob-locked those free throws. He crushed three-pointers all day. He was a great free throw shooter, too, is the other thing. He was an over 80% free throw shooter.

Missed four in a row and then was never a good free throw shooter the rest of his career. It's weird. missed four in a row and then was never a good free throw shooter it's weird uh number 12 overall mookie blaylock is chosen perfectly yeah by a team where it's perfectly fine to yell in the streets at any hour of the day the new jersey nets okay there you go oh shut the fuck up down there that's fine that's they don't no one's calling the cops just do that i didn't realize he was drafted by them call the cops in newark and say someone's yelling they'd be like are they shooting no okay good tell them thank you and hang up they're probably on our team don't worry about it back thank you for not killing each other and then hang up on this is ridiculous

shut up so you were allowed to do that 14 overall is is Tim Hardaway, who was a great player for a long time. Dana Barrow, 16. 17. This is a pick that somebody could have done better. Sean Kemp, 17. Really? I mean, if you picked, say, J.R. Reid and not number five. If you picked Purvis Ellison.

Purvis Ellison, a power forward, and not Sean Kemp, who would have made an immediate impact. I mean, Kemp was a fucking monster when he came out. Oh, and in the first few years, he was a force. Right now. Holy shit, was he nasty. And he was 18. Oh, he was a fucking monster. He was awesome.

Lucky for him, he didn't have to go to Sacramento. No. Not that Sacramento's bad, but in terms of, you don't hear a lot about them. Very few. Not a lot of pub. Not a lot of kings that were superstars. Yeah, Mitch Richmond. Right. Anyone else from that era that I can think of? Was Baker there hear a lot about them very few not a lot of kings that that are that were superstars mitch richmond right anyone else from that era that i can think of was baker there for a little bit then baker i don't think so milwaukee that's later though yeah uh bj armstrong goes after him

to the bulls and vlade divac's the end of the round did sean kemp get drafted by the sonics yeah and he stayed there the whole time he said he left at the end he did he was bouncing around when he was fat he could barely dunk anymore he used to be able to touch the top of the backboard when he was 6'11 he could barely dunk

because he was so fat he got so fat that was so sad to watch and it's still not good today no it's not good today it doesn't look great he'll have an episode too

he had some problems and he has the most kids of anybody I think of anybody he probably has 40 juniors running around out there. Man, it's a shame. So Vlade Divac's there, Sherman Douglas, guys like that in the second round. Cliff Robinson, the steal of the draft, though.

Second round, 36th overall, Portland picks up Cliff Robinson, which is a great player for a long time here. Other guys not even drafted that year, Chris Childs, another point guard point guard shooting guard lefty the knicks had him for a while i think he played in canada for a little while yeah to one of those guys jaron jackson too from georgetown i don't remember him he was around for a while he was a shooting guard okay he was all right jaron jaron jackson r-o-n e-n ah yeah uh 89 90 he's with the nets here this is the team a team has Sam Bowie, who's kind of not what they thought he was going to be.

Rick Carlisle, who's a coach later on, shit like that. Jaron Jackson gets drafted. Anthony Mason on this team. So crime and sports alumni here. So yeah, it's not a terrific team, these early Nets teams. I don't know if you remember these Nets teams, but I lived there, and I loved watching basketball. And when the Nets game was on,

you can't watch it for more than like eight minutes. This is fucking pathetic. No one cares. No one's watching. Even when Coleman was there, it was still lackluster. Yeah, it wasn't great. But he's insanely quiet, Mookie. Unless he's outside with a woman at four in the morning,

he's a very quiet man. That's a great point going against his character there yeah he's walking around newark with a fucking with a lip full of dip yeah and a toothpick hanging out of his mouth too total texas oklahoma guy super quiet spitting chaw on the ground which is a very odd thing in newark yeah and no one knows that what to make of him. He's just super quiet. Sam Bowie, who's a friend of his, says, quote, you know, teammate, he says, quote, Mookie had no problem being in a room with five or six other guys and never uttering a word. That's so wild. Says Mookie.

He's just, like I said, oh, he's still here. Okay. What are you here for? Yeah. Assist and defense. Just under the radar. So, I mean, even his game is like his personality. That's why I love for? Yeah. Assist and defense. Just under the radar. I mean, even his game is like his personality. That's why I love basketball.

Your game has a direct relation to your personality. There's no other sport other than fighting that's like that. You know what I mean? In football, it's a very, very, I mean, once you get to the end zone, you can do some shit. But in the game, everybody looks like robots. They all have to do the same motions because it's a three steps and then here because the timing is perfect the other guy basketball is like the only michael jordan might be the only guy that's like jazz like that

yeah it's he might be the only guy other than mookie that's like his personality does not mesh as well with his yeah on court he's flash and loud and tongue hanging out making gestures in your face talking shit and off the court he's like well i have no opinions on anything uh by gatorade and pains and thank you very much i've got a new shoe coming out the fall i'm late for my board meeting hold on goodbye see ya bye i don't know ask mookie right fucking crazy so uh yeah he's he's super shy and uh the media it's it's a new york area media so there's a shitload of media there that was when there were still newspapers and talk radio and all this shit so you're getting asked a lot of questions all the time and this was just

from a kid from you know went to community college in texas and goes to oklahoma and is the quiet guy that stays back and doesn't even talk to the coach like this is a lot for him fish out of water overwhelming basically uh they put him on the spot they try to kind of you know they wanted they wanted a story about the new kid and they just he just didn't have any he plays solid fundamental ball and doesn't say shit it's really not a lot to write about. Make this flower open up. Yeah, that's it. One of his friends said, quote, he had unpolished social skills and didn't want to make himself look bad.

So he's basically like one of these Japanese players that has spotty English. So they use a translator even though they speak English. They don't want to sound stupid. Even though they're smart enough to know Japanese and English. Worse over, English is his first language and he's coming from the south and small towns. He doesn't want to feel like a dummy. It's social. He just feels like he's

out of place. He's quiet anyway. Even with his friends, he's quiet. People, media, asking him questions, putting him on the spot is not his thing. He's hanging out with people he's comfortable with. He doesn't want to say much. Otherwise, he said he really didn't like uh his friend said that he hated how because most of the reporters back then but now it's different but back then especially they were

98 white all these sports reporters and they he would tell his friends that they would take uh the words of the black players out of context to make them sound dumb. And he didn't like that. He thought that he was afraid of saying anything and having it be taken out of context and making him sound stupid. I could see what he means. Oh, absolutely. Especially back then. Yeah.

That was a different type of thing. So he was leery of it. And I think he had also been told that by people. And so I think he was kind of. You know, that is very interesting because you and i are being the ages that we're at we were very uh black culture was kind of given to us openly and and very much we accepted it yeah and we were kids yeah you celebrate it and and you don't like any other it was just american culture you don't see that there's a separation and a divide but the the generation gap here. Especially if you grow up.

I grew up in New York. It was just. Right. And in the 60s, he experiences and probably. Yeah, and down south. Oh, my God. It's a different story. What he's experienced has probably been crazy.

He's driven through. I mean, especially in Oklahoma and the south, going to these other towns to play high school. You're driving through sundown towns. You know what I mean? We're literally. You can't be. Like, that's fucking crazy. That's a different thing. I can't believe that at 38 years old i just recognize that right now yeah if you're like and i'm having sympathy for mookie if you were like raised in westchester

and went to like some northeast college and all that kind of shit and you don't even know this guy you don't know this guy's experience and how he's gonna you know there's no way for you to relate to him and so that's why sometimes i think that they end up sound making guys sound stupid on purpose right or maybe not even on purpose just like throwing the words in that they say but like spelling them stupid so that there's a lot of that too when you see that there's a shitload there really is really they really try to they take that the push the difference lingo and like yeah i can really push it in front of you it happens a lot it really is yeah you'd see that a lot so i mean he was aware of it and he was worried about it uh the team though he should have the team should have worried about what was going on on the court because no wonder why the press had so many

questions yeah because they were 17 and 65 that year so wow they should have just the only question should have been why are you guys terrible why are you guys one of the worst teams ever this is fucking are you embarrassed are you embarrassed how many teams have lost more games well we'll put it this way from seeing that documentary i think i remember that was the magic's first season and they won 14 games that year out in their first season oh my god a bunch of just you know cast offs reggie theus was their star literally was their star so that says a lot there and uh they they says team won three more games so that tells you a lot mookie plays in 50 games uh he starts 17 of them 25.3 minutes a game that's a lot for a rookie that's not bad here uh he's a you know he's a solid player 10.1 points a game

he's got 1.6 steals a game which is becomes his specialty 4.2 assists 2.8 rebounds good solid young point guard looks like a good first you know mid first round pick he's certainly usable not too shabby now it's around this time the 89 90 it's actually actually 91. We'll talk about it in particular. But Pearl Jam, Van Pearl Jam, is forming around this time. Their basis is a guy named Jeff Ament. I'm not sure how you say that. Now, I guess he and Eddie Vedder

are sports fans. And you know Eddie Vedder has done a ton of sports games. Loves the Cubs. Loves the Cubs. They're also really big basketball fans. Really? Yeah super weird and they used to open packs of like baseball basketball cards oh while they were on the road and while they would be like you know doing shitty gigs that's what they would do like in the car yeah like they get they'd stop at the store and get some couple

dollar 39 packs literally yeah grab a couple packs of tops or fleer or whatever the hell they had out it opened some shit up because they liked looking through them which that's awesome so uh they did that and uh and i guess they would open these packs and then the the bass player here said one of the cards that went to my manager and ended up in a cassette i guess they just they would stick cards that they liked in like in cassette cases oh because they fit in about the same size and i guess they gave them to his their manager for some reason one of of them was Mookie's card. And fast forward a couple of weeks, he says, we got offered the Alice in Chains tour on the West Coast when they first started out. And the cassette was they didn't have a band name yet.

Pearl Jam. They weren't Pearl Jam. They were nobody. They just got Eddie Vedder. They were just like his new band that they were trying to figure out who they were. But they got offered a spot on this tour. They were like, well, we need a fucking name so they said the cassette was sitting up on the desk and somebody said what about mookie blaylock so the group was like yeah we like his

name he's fucking solid on the court you know he's real fundamentally sound that's like what we're like let's call ourselves mookie blaylock so pearl jam's original name right is fucking mookie blaylock did you know that i did that's that's a fact they went as mookie blaylock for a while and that was why until it became a problem right that he was a because he was famous point guard yeah so it was like you can't say you know this band and mookie blaylock they'll be like mookie blaylock's musician like you can't yeah you can't just call yourself the same name as somebody famous. It's like a jazz band. You're picking Wayman Tisdale. That's what I mean. Oh, shit.

He plays, too. Oh, shit. Wayman Tisdale. Fuck. Hey, where's Wayman? You guys said Wayman Tisdale's going to be playing jazz tonight. I don't fucking see him. I don't see him anywhere.

Where is he? Matter of fact, he's playing right now. Oh, shit. Mookie's here? I didn't hear him say shit. He didn't talk. So I don't know he's here. So, yeah. Mookie Blaylock there.

So, 90-91, Greg Anderson's on the team, Sam Bowie, Judd Bushler comes over. Oh, boy. Good God, Judd Bushler. Fuck, that's brutal. How long did he stay in the league?

Judd Bushler, a while. He was in the Bulls. He was? He just stuck around. When they were good. Yeah, he's only 6'6", too. I could see if he was, like, kind of a body that could go down.

At least he's good for fouls or something. He played so ugly. Bushler, man. Derek Coleman comes on the team here. Chris Dudley. You want to talk about playing ugly? Yeah. Chris Dudley's maybe the ugliest offensive player in the history of the NBA.

Big, clumsy. Big and clumsy. He's a Yale-educated. He's from Yale. Fuck out of this league. We got nowhere for you, sir. Don't get a lot of educated. He's from Yale. Fuck out of this league. We got nowhere for you, sir. Don't get a lot of 6'11 centers from Yale. Good defender though. Hell of a defender here.

But this team is, Reggie Theus comes here as well. No kidding. And Drazen Petrovic as well. He was great. He was great, poor guy. So the 90-91 New Jersey Nets go 26-56. An improvement, but not much. It's pretty fucking terrible.

And their attendance is 24th out of 27 teams in the league. Nobody gives a shit. They're in the biggest market, and they can't get people there because who cares? Who fucking cares? So that year, though, 72 games for Mookie. Starts 70 of them. Now he's a beast. 35.9 minutes a game.

Nasty. 14.1 points per game. Now he up to three and a half uh rebounds 6.1 assists and 2.3 steals a game this is a starter man that's a that's a starting watch your ass he'll pick your pocket point guard that's pretty good i was watching basketball religiously at this point i don't see him on the nets at all no that's all it's all hawks in your head yeah i don't even see him in that fucking jersey no that to me that for some reason that like 88 to 91 period i did i don't remember basketball that watching it that much in that period but then like starting like 92 every game i could see i watched so i don't know that logo for the nets too was very it didn't it's terrible it didn't

say nets to me it had like a fucking sharp end like there was a blade coming out of it do you know what i mean they had like the hoop with right yeah but the the the letters were like spelled in almost knife blades yeah it's a stupid welcome to jersey welcome to newark Take this blade with you. So 525 grand he makes there. Now, 1991, August 27th, 1991, Pearl Jam releases their first album. You know what the name of the album was, Jimmy? It was called Mookie Blaylock. No, it wasn't. No?

No. Did they have a song on it called Mookie Blaylock? Nope. The album was called 10. Do you know what Mookie Blaylock's jersey number is? Oh, shit. Is that right? Is that the reason? It's 10. That's why. His whole career, his jersey number is 10. Do you know what Mookie Blaylock's jersey number is? Oh, shit, is that right? Is that the reason?

It's 10. That's why. His whole career, his jersey number is 10. How about that? It's a tribute to Mookie Blaylock. Did they have a song called Mookie Blaylock, too, I think? Not on the record, I don't think. Not on the first album.

I know that there's so much involved with Mookie with them because of that. Because of that, yeah. I didn't know that 10 was that. Later on, we'll say it now, later on, he'll Hill Mookie, when he's in a game in Seattle, the bass player comes and does a shoot around with him and they play horse and shit. Unreal. The bass player said he couldn't have been nicer to him, treated him great, even said he had nice rotation on his shot.

He said, which was the biggest compliment he could have ever gotten. He was walking on air after that, which I thought was hilarious. That's unreal. This guy was so excited to go play horse with mookie blaylock this is they've sold their first album went 16 time diamond you know what that is that's like 32 million albums or some crazy shit i saw it on the thing i was like 16 times diamond what the fuck is that they made more money off that album than mookie made in his career oh my god all their albums are like 47-time platinum. You're like,

Jesus, how many albums these guys sell? For fuck's sake. So, 91-92 season, they finish 40-42, the Nets. So they're getting better. Not too shabby. They go all the way to the playoffs with a losing record, which tells you how shitty the NBA playoffs were sometimes, when you'd

have 40-42 against the Cleveland Cavaliers and their slow it down offense so that is boring as balls uh they lose that series three to one and they're gone quickly but Mookie uh plays in 72 games starts 67 of them 13.8 points a game he's got 3.7 rebounds 6.8 assists 2, 2.4 steals. So the points go down a little drop, but everything else goes up. So he's killing it. $575,000 for him that year, too. Which, I mean, shit, 91-92.

It's second year? Yeah. I mean, that's good money now, obviously. It's almost fucking over half a million dollars. It's good money now. Starting point guard, though? 91-92. It's a rookie because he's a mid half a million dollars. It's good money now. Starting point guard, though? 91, 92? It's a rookie because he's a mid-first rounder.

So, I mean, you're negotiating. That's rookie year money. That's rookie year. This is his rookie contract. I think it's a three-year because he'll get more money here soon. November 3rd, 1992, right in the beginning of the season of 92 92 93 the next year he is traded by the nets uh with roy hinson who's a 14.2 point per game forward who doesn't play anymore after this trade i think it was a salary dump probably one of those things uh to atlanta hawk to the atlanta hawks for ramil

robinson okay so that i see i see ramil there yes exactly and. And so this Atlanta team, this is the team you'd recognize from the 90s. Stacey Augman, Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis and his Easter Island statue head. And a huge dick. How do you know that? Because I had a basketball card. I've said this on the show where he was dunking and his dick is oh so prevalent in his shorts. That's right. Yeah.

As a child, I was like, my Christ, they get that big? Jesus Christ. My God. I can't wait to be an adult. This is going to be awesome. And then no. Didn't happen for you. I'm not Kevin fucking Willis.

No, you're not a seven foot tall giant black guy. With a head with a dick to matt oh dude his head matches his dick then because his his head is the it's huge it's oddly shaped it's just this fucking he's a scary looking dude because he's just enormous like holy shit with a big block dick great player though he's a really solid player uh also on this team, John Koncak, the goofiest of the goofy white centers. That was Atlanta signed him to that. Do you remember that contract? No.

They gave him this big, huge contract. Really? That was like a record contract to John Koncak. Who the fuck owned the Hawks? It's known as what? Ted Turner. It was Ted Turner. It is known as, yeah, Ted Turner owned the Hawks by now.

And he gave that fucking man. It's known John Koncak. I feel like john conkak's like this he's a tall he's a he's a seven footer seven foot guy and he was like a blonde guy who looked like a congressman he was like a very so i feel like he went up to ted turner's office had a chat with him and they were like this guy's a solid guy i'm giving him everyone's gonna love him except the fact that he sucks yes it's known as one of the worst like 10 contracts in nba history absolutely every list of them it's on there why would you

give him anything he's john conkack fucking jerk got into nba jam he did that was this was the time when nba money was exploding and you just didn't want to lose free agents so you gave them money and it was fucking crazy so john conkac on the squad there god damn it so the hawks that year 43 and 39 they go to the playoffs unfortunately for them it is against the bulls right and uh they were not to be stopped that year wasn't the bulls it was gonna be the knicks it wasn't the knicks it was gonna be the pacers fucking anybody that's way better than them that's tough even cleveland back then. But the Bulls, this was the year they beat the Suns in six in the finals. And it was going to happen for them this year.

So they sweep Cleveland. I mean, they sweep Atlanta this year. Poor Dominique. Was Steve Smith there, too? Steve Smith, was he here yet? No, he was not. He was not here yet. Later on, I think the next year, because then he was on the Olympic team in 96.

Right. From Atlanta. So, yeah, 43-49 the next year, losing to the Bulls. But 78 games started for Mookie. He does just fine. 13.4 points. Jesus Christ. Three and a half rebounds.

Eight point four assists. Two and a half steals a game. Unbelievable. So he went 2.3, 2.4, 2.5. His D is nasty. It is. Absolutely nasty. 660 grand a year for him that year not too shabby 93 94 things start to get interesting we'll just say for old mookie and everything

the hawks are pretty good they are 57 and 25 first in their division uh they win in the first round of the playoffs actually uh against the heat they beat them-2, and then they lose to the Pacers 4-2, which the Pacers were, God, were they tough in the playoffs in the 90s. You can't beat Reggie Miller, man. You're not going to beat him. He's a clutch son of a bitch, that Reggie Miller. He really is. Now, Mookie, on the other hand, starts 81 games, top notch,

13.8 points a game, 5.2 reb rebounds so that went up a rebound and a half 9.7 assists a game went up over a whole assist 2.6 steals 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 he's doing great getting better every year he is nba first all defensive team no kidding which is amazing because gary payton was in the league back then so he beat beat out Gary Payton for that spot. Wow. Who's known as the glove for being such a sticky defender. And he also makes the all-star team. How about that?

You know how hard it was in the 90s to make the all-star team in basketball? Every guy on the team is a household name. Right. Like everybody. Alonzo Mourning. It's going to be Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan. Harry Johnson. It's crazy, Hemble.

Let's look at the rosters. The East was so stacked with talent. Look at the rosters here. There's some injuries, so that kind of whatever. But B.J. Armstrong, Kenny Anderson, Scotty Pippen, Derek Coleman, Shaquille O'Neal, Mookie Blaylock, Patrick Ewing, Horace Grant, Alonzo Mourning, Charles Oakley, Mark Price, Dominique Wilkins. Jesus. There's a fucking squad right there, man that is crazy that's like a little boy's dream of of a lunch in the afternoon just with all those guys it's not well listen to the west yeah the west is even sicker carl malone

david robinson 90 hall of fame let's see or should be yeah drexler yep clyde drexler legend mitch richmond yeah beast uh charles barkley sean kemp akim elijahwan think about that starting five Clyde Drexler legend Mitch Richmond beast Charles Barkley Sean Kemp Hakeem Olajuwon think about that starting five Drexler Richmond Barkley

Kemp Olajuwon that's insanity anybody would love to have that today and we got to watch that in their prime games that's just

teams of legends it's like just legend team stock that's what we watched every week it was so great who was the center

for that Hakeem Olajuwon he's like one of the best of all time or David Robinson well Just legend team stock. That's what we watched every week. It was so great. Who was the center for that? Alkema Lajuan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's one of the best of all time. Or David Robinson. Well, the reserves that year. Listen to the reserves. The reserves are just a...

Kevin Johnson, amazing. Carl Malone. Yep. Danny Manning. Gary Payton. Cliff Robinson. David Robinson. Latrell Sprewell.

John Stockton. That is your backup. One, two, three, four, five Hall of Famers that I know of on the bench. They're just the reserves. That will play when these guys get tired. The starters, I think, three Hall of Famers

and Mitch Richmond, who was a great player, and Sean Kemp, who was a fucking monster back then. This is a crazy thing. Just to be on the bench there would be insane. I wouldn't even want to talk. They started Charles Barkley and Sean Kemp together? Yeah, Barkley and Kemp.

And Akeem. Imagine that. Did the East win? There's no way they fucking won. I don't know the final score of the game. There's no way they won. That's all rebounds. It's Shaq and Ewing on the other side with Derek Coleman and Scotty Pippen.

Okay. So the D on Pippen, too, is rough. I mean, Barkley-Pippen's a rough matchup. That's weird.ounds. It's Shaq and Ewing on the other side with Derek Coleman and Scottie Pippen. Okay. So the D on Pippen, too, is rough. I mean, Barkley-Pippen's a rough matchup. That's weird. That's so much fun. What a great weekend. I would pay to watch that. He makes, that year, too, Mookie, after a pay raise, makes $1,630,000.

He broke a million. He got a million-dollar raise that year. So he's got to be feeling great right now. All-star, all legends, grace. Right? I mean, come on. Where's it go from here, Jimmy? Come on.

I mean, you just got a million dollar raise and played on a legendary, a team with a bunch of legends. So cool. I'd be embarrassed to be on those teams. I'd be like, this is embarrassing. I don't belong here. As Mookie Blaylock, I'd be embarrassed. Yeah, that's what I mean. If you're Mookie blaylock or he's really i mean john starks is on the also on the east so so he's the second worst player yeah he's the second worst exactly no he is

absolutely bj armstrong him and bj were comparable yeah he was bj just made it on votes because the bulls had a better three-point shot the bulls were champions that's why and they were popular yeah so that's why kenny and were popular. So that's why. And Kenny Anderson also making the team. He's great. They start two point guards. He was so good. So anyway, Kenny, though, or I'm sorry, Mookie, not Kenny.

Mookie loves, there's things he loves in this world. He might love his toothpick, and he might love his chaw. He might love his chaw. He might love his girl. He might love basketball, but he loves weed. Really? He loves weed. His favorite. Which I'm not going to hold against him out here. He might love his girl. He might love basketball. But he loves weed. Really? He loves weed. His favorite.

Which I'm not going to hold against him out here. He also loves booze. But around basketball, he really loves weed. He has stoned pretty much every game he ever plays. Really? He smokes before the game. No kidding. Yes, as a lot of people do.

A lot of guys do. Now, I would like to posit this to you. I understand scientifically people look and think, oh, marijuana will slow down your reflexes and do all that. He is the top defense. He's the first team

all NBA defense. He beat Gary Payton. He's the best defensive point guard on the floor, which he's covering the quickest, fastest player. So his reaction times have to be remarkable lightning to not just get blown by on everything to be the top defender in that and be

stoned yeah i gotta say i think we'd help some some people it's good well you know it just does uh whenever i'm stoned time kind of goes by slower so yeah when somebody's dribbling in front of you maybe the ball goes at a slower speed and you're able to see it and slower so yeah when somebody's dribbling in front of you maybe the ball goes at a slower speed and you're able to see it and be able to pick somebody's pocket in high school helps somebody who steals the ball no in high school i used to weed constantly before i played basketball and you see things completely different yeah basketball is a fast-moving game it is and especially if you're a guy like mookie who's a little more introverted i think he wants to slow the fucking thing down.

Weed gives you, you see angles with weed too. You'll see angles. He can't do this because I got this. It's just different. You start to see the geometry in front of you lay out like this pass can go here and the angle on it. It just works. It's super weird. I don't know what it is, but some people, some people would just be confused and walking

around the bald head them in the head. They'd be like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. But some people, that's how weed affects them. Weed affects some people in the way of extreme focus. And they put together three-hour stories about assholes. I guarantee you would get along great with Mookie Blaylock. I think we'd be okay. At least at this point in his career.

A former Hawks ball boy who later on becomes one of Mookie's best friends, a guy named Danny Solomon said about him, this is awesome, coming from one of his best friends, this is great. Quote, he was one of the few NBA players who could smoke marijuana and play the best 48 minutes you've ever seen. And he was doing it for so long that it took a lot to have an effect. So he was smoking a shitload before games, too. He was two hits and me like all right i'm focused he had to like let's having a whole sash roll them up yeah and then all right let's get out there on the floor he's going out

to the tip stinking yeah let's get out to the floor and shut down fucking you know gary paton let's let shot kevin johnson not drive to the hoop and dish out to Barkley. That's crazy. It's literally great. We're playing Michael Jordan tonight. Better get Superstone. Think about that. And it works for him.

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by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Same thing. So he's, you know know he's got his things uh 1994 he has his son he has a child i should say or two because they're twins oh no he has twin boys uh zach and mookie daron uh-huh darren darren yeah darren darren darren or darren is it dar? I think it's Darren. It might be Daron. It might be Daron, but there's no apostrophe or anything, so I'm going to go Darren. Or a little E, big R.

And it's from the south, so I'm going to go Darren. It's probably Darren. Yeah. So, yeah, Darren, which I assume is junior. You bet. There we go. Twins. Poor Zach.

Problem is, though- Zach's got to look at that motherfucker every day. You get the name. Thanks. But they turn out fine. Yeah. We'll just say that ahead of time they break the curse here okay he'll have five kids all together though five all good athletes

by the way all of them the boys the girls everybody good athletes all around okay so he chose well in terms of who to hook up with here uh now 94 95 the the atl Atlanta Hawks finish 42-40, and they go to the playoffs again, and they lose to the Pacers, and they get swept. Pacers were nasty. What are you going to do? 94-95 for Mookie, though. 80 games, starts all of them.

38.4 minutes a game. 17.2 points a game, which is career high for him. 4.9 rebounds, 7.7 assists, 2.5 steals. Damn fine season for Mookie. NBA first all-defensive team. First again. First again. And he makes $2.1 million.

Now you're talking. Fucking Mookie's doing fantastic, right? The man's made over $4 million? He's doing well. He's having twins. He's really, every year, he's getting better at his craft twins he's he's he's really every year he's getting better at his craft he's been in the playoffs three times he's been recognized as like an all-star people know who he is now there's a pearl jams name and fucking albums after him and

bands and shit man got out of new jersey life is good right now until 1995 uh january 11th of 1995 to be exact, when 4.33 a.m. Again, never going to be something good. 4.33 a.m. He rescued a child from a burning building. It's never that. 4.33 and they finished game seven of the championship and he wins. He bravely scaled the outside of the wall to rescue. This is after he hit the winning shot in the game.

No, he's on Delk Road. I don't know where that is. And Cobb police clocked him at going 80 miles an hour in a 55 mile an hour stretch. That's in Atlanta. They have I-75. There's Atlanta. Okay. When they also pulled him over and they find an open beer can in there.

It's got an open can of beer. And so they pull him out and they're going to charge him with DUI and then they also found a little wood box in there. They open the little wood box they find rolling papers and like literally some shake in the box. Not even in a bag. It's like

some shit. It's his dugout. It's well he was rolling. He's rolling over that and whatever falls out of the sides lands in there so you get like a little bit of shake in the fuck. That's what i just you know from experience that's what you would do yeah so they said the police arrest him for possession of marijuana too then because it's you know georgia in the 80s and 90s yeah and uh the particles they said quote the particles have been sent to the state crime lab for analysis. Wow. Okay. How dopey of a cop you got to be.

Hey, guess what? If you lived in Georgia and paid taxes in the 90s, you paid for someone to send a fucking sample of shake to the state lab for analysis. How about go in the box and go, that's gone now. It's all gone. So DUI, back on that part and never who fucking cares it's a state creek you know how much money this is fucking costing people are we kidding what for quote unquote particles particles unbelievable not even like we found what we think is five kilos of cocaine we're gonna have an analyze quick so we can try no

this is stupid whatever it is go it's gone jesus fucking christ the process takes one to three weeks you know because they're backed up with like you know fucking rape kits rape kits and forensics from murder scenes and show that nature meth good lord so he yeah the press asked him about this and he denies that he was intoxicated or that he was drinking while driving. He said, quote, I stopped off. I had a beer. I wasn't drunk. That's it.

He said that can had been in my car for some time, was in there for a long time, forgot that shit was even there, which that's possible. He said, quote, the only thing I have to be sorry about is I was speeding. I should have never been doing that. True. Whatever, though, it's not the end of the world. He couldn't be reached for comments here. be sorry about as i was speeding i should have never been doing that true uh whatever though it's not the end of the world uh he couldn't be reached for comments here it's apparently at that point marijuana possession uh is a misdemeanor in georgia but still carries up to 12 months in jail and a thousand dollar fine mostly is that probation unless you keep getting busted but still it's

fucking stupid um so uh yeah he took a blood test and they're going to do deal with all of this shit and uh the general manager said the team will take no action pending adjudication of the case so in other words we're going to get all the facts once we get the facts then we're going to talk to him and talk to all parties involved and after it dies down we'll forget all about it okay have a good time it's got to go through the filters yeah you know and we're going to see what we believe obviously obviously, and what's more advantageous to us. Right. You know, the coach here, Lenny Wilkins, he, you know who Lenny Wilkins is.

He's a legendary player, and I think he's the winningest. Did Phil Jackson beat him? He's got to be. Lenny Wilkins, I know, at one point was the winningest coach in the history of the NBA, as far as wins go. But Larry Brown passed him or something. There was a few at the top. But there might be.

He's an amazing coach. He coached forever. The old coach, the gangster-ass coach from the Knicks. Pat Riley. Yeah, but he stopped and was like in front offices forever. But he was at the fucking Heat for so long. Yeah, he was. But still, he would stop for five years and shit.

Lenny Wilkins just coached for like 30 years straight. But Riley got to play in fucking Miami, or got to coach in Miami when LeBron was there. Yeah, all those wins in the 80s with the Blakers too. Yeah. But he said that Blaylock, when he heard about this, he sat him down for a lecture. I'm going to talk to this young man.

I'm going to talk to Coach Wilkins. Oh, Wilkins. I'm going to talk to this young man. And he said, it's ridiculous. Wilkins said that Blalock, quote, he talked to him, and that's all taken care of. And he said that Blalock, quote, was serious about his play. He's always on time, and he's receptive to coaching. I enjoy coaching him.

That's it. Not anything else about the don't get arrested or anything. He just said he's serious about playing. He accepted this coach's words. Good for him. Nice job. So 95-96 here, the Atlanta Hawks. anything he just said he's serious about playing he accepted this coach's words good for him nice job so 95 96 here the atlanta hawks uh they finished 43 and 30 or 46 and 36 uh they go to the playoffs they beat the pacers they finally got them three to two in a five game series and

then they go to play the magic in 95 96 with shack. Shaq back then was in shape. Now everybody pictures fat Shaq. You see Shaq on TV. He's this big, giant. Even when he was at the Lakers, he was fat. He was a big, stocky guy. This was when Shaq looked like he was 6'6", but he was actually 7'1".

But he had the body of an athletic 6'6 guy. He'd run like a deer down that floor, dive for loose balls. He was so athletic. It was amazing. He was fast. He'd run like a deer down that floor, dive for loose balls. He was so athletic. It was amazing. Yeah, he was fast. He could run. He was awesome.

And Penny was... People don't know Penny Hardaway. Yeah. It's a goddamn shame. It's a shame. Because he got injured and he kind of went away. And unless you grew up in that era, you're like, I don't know.

Anthony's a stupid name, but I don't know what the fuck Penny Hardaway... He's unbelievable. He was so good. He was one of the top players in the league. He was amazing for a while there. He had a fucking Sprite commercial that everybody knew. He had Chris Rock was the voice of Little Penny.

I mean, think about that. But he was like, he was just so good. He's a 6'9 point guard that was smooth and could shoot and dunk and pass. He was nasty. So they lose in five games to the Magic, the Hawks do. Mookie doesn't get a lot of credit. He just doesn't. He's a quiet guy. And the NBA, like most sports, the Hawks do. Mookie doesn't get a lot of credit. He just doesn't. He's a quiet guy.

And the NBA, like most sports, is a flashy league. And unless you're winning championships, if you're quiet and you win championships, everyone will notice you. But if you're quiet and you don't win championships, you just kind of fall below the wayside. There's a lot of loud voices out there. So, yeah, one of his friends said here,

quote, you never hear about it because he doesn't have the fanfare he just gets it done and he goes home which is what you should do you shouldn't have to be a commercial uh shouldn't have to have a commercial to be recognized but sad to say that's the way it is now yeah which is true uh yeah that's actually a fascinating point uh contrary to my opinion that your personality fucking matters. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a statement to today's NBA versus our NBA.

Yeah. The league, yeah, you could be a quiet, but there was a lot of quiet players back then, too, that were good, that were fine. Kevin Johnson didn't say shit. I love Kevin Johnson. He's a quiet motherfucker. He was great.

Dan Marley was kind of quiet, too. He was good. Yeah, then you could have Charles Barkley, who was outspoken as shit. When could have i mean when did you ever hear patrick ewing speak uh not not right never very rare i mean he was quiet quiet dude a lot of barking even though he had a jamaican accent did you did he really fuck yes jamaica fucking jamaican accent you didn't even know that i don't think i know what his voice sounds like yeah it's weird so a lot of quiet i mean like akim elijah one was like the most quiet respectful i know what that guy sounds like yeah it's weird so a lot of quake i mean like akim al-ajwan was like the most quiet respectful i know what that guy sounds like guy on earth because when he barks boy is that loud yeah but i mean he's the most quiet respectful guy on earth but he was so fucking good at winning

titles that you couldn't ignore him i mean he was winning titles that's all there was to it he could barely speak english for christ's sake but he was david robinson quiet quiet yeah mr us air force naval academy was a naval naval navy that's right he went to navy and yeah he was the admiral yeah the admiral that's why he was on the goddamn remember those commercials with tim duncan it was like come to my house we'll water the flowers and then my wife's gonna make an excellent it's a stew really it's pretty pretty tasty she makes it sometimes just tasty you should just come and have some fucking ridiculous so uh he said about this whole thing it hasn't changed yet and i don't think it ever will some players are always going to get looked over it doesn't bother me i just

have fun playing this game so mookie says he's just trying to be cool about it because he's making millions of dollars he's living his dream he's fucking happy uh february 96 he goes to court for the dui and the marijuana possession and uh he's found guilty of this uh you sir may fuck off here but very lightly one year probation so one year probation that is february 8th 1996 let's remember that day yeah okay february 8th one year probation uh now 95 96 on the court 81 games started goddamn nice 35.7 minutes a game 15.7 points per game he's got uh 4.1 rebounds 5.9 assists 2.6 steals crushing it nba's uh second all defensive team still great i mean good you and gary payton probably right even better makes 2.5 million. He's done great.

That's impressive. I didn't realize how great he did. That's good, yeah. $2.5 million. Oh, boy. That's nice. That's good money. That's a nice chunk. Yeah, he's going to go,

whew, right there. That's good. And he's matured some, too, of the whole thing. Everything, he says, he slowed down his whole life, is what he's saying. He's mature now.

Let's do it in their own words. Let's find out what Mookie has to say about this whole thing. Let's find out in their own words. Quote, a few years ago, it would have been a different story. I have a great wife and she helped me out. The Lord's there too, obviously. You have to trust the Lord to take care of you. If not, you go through life thinking you did it all yourself

and you can't say that. There's someone out there, something out there helping you, helping you pick and choose the right choices. Remember that, by the way.

He's got Jesus. That he's got Jesus and Jesus is, quote, helping him make the right choices. So we're going to blame Jesus later. He also,

in addition to Jesus, there's other people as well, obviously. He said, my wife and kids have helped me. They're not Jesus or anything, but they do their part, I suppose. What do you offer them? Not the Messiah. I can't ask them to do too much for me. Zach and Junior. Yeah, you know how that goes.

It wasn't one of those things where I was chasing and ruining my life. In other words, chasing women. I was involved in a bad thing, and sometimes you get caught up in bad things. You don't think you're going to get caught. You want to enjoy your life. It's like having a drink after work. You don't think you're going to get stopped by the police, but it can happen. And you've got to face the consequences when it does.

I mean, you want to enjoy life and all, but you have to understand that there are consequences. Remember all of that. Own words have never come back to haunt anybody more later uh 96 97 with the hawks again 56 and 26 so that's goddamn good yeah not too bad at all they win the first round of the playoffs against the pistons uh three to two it's grant hill's pistons back then uh it's a five game series though then they have to play the bulls uh this is post michael jordan return yeah uh to good fucking luck they lose in a five game series there you're not winning much more than a game in those series against them in the east no just they're too tough now february 8th 1997 is one year one year probation so his probation is over

right he's good scott free it's good. He's got free. He's good now. Ready to go. Ready to go. Where is he going? Let's find out. February 14th, 97. Six days after his probation expires.

What is that? Oh, yeah. He is rested in British Columbia in Vancouver. You went to Canada? Yeah. He's playing the Grizzlies. Oh, okay. Okay.

in vancouver to canada yeah he's playing with playing the grizzlies okay okay uh he's going on a plane from vancouver to phoenix here and uh funny thing the uh the police dogs find a little something in his bag oh they have a little scent on him and uh they take a little sniff and what they end up finding is uh two ounces of weed that's a. It's a lot of weed and you can't try to bring it across. That's where you got to draw the line. That's where it's like, yeah, I get it and all, but you can't try to cross a country border with weed. Why are you so much smarter than Mookie Blaylock? It's just not smart.

I know my limits and that's one of them. You know what I mean? Boy, is he a dummy. Get your weed in whatever country you're in because other than that, you can't just bring weed back and forth through countries. Is that trafficking?

That's going to be trafficking. They end up- That's a lot of weed, James. Yeah, but in Canada, they're like, oh, but he's a quiet guy. I mean, look at him. He's not- It may have been the weed. It's not too bad.

He was very quiet. He's very calm. He's quiet. He's polite. He gave us the weed. He gave it up. He was polite about it. It was great weed.

He didn't punch nobody. We all had some. was good it was good gave it right we brought it to the potluck why do you think we're so why do you think we're so calm here all of us are very nice everybody that works there oh boy that's how that's why we can tolerate hockey hey i mean you don't even we don't even know it's on we just spoke and we lay back and we go what's that still on oh third period okay it's almost over we don't even know my canadian is very irish yeah i feel an irish canadian it's fine irish come to canada too i guess there's irish canadians what do you want jesus christ so so they get two ounces off they get two ounces while he's as he's trying to board a plane for phoenix they find that shit and ounces as he's trying to board a plane for Phoenix.

They find that shit. And so he's ordered to return to Vancouver for a court appearance on that in a couple months. But they let him go on. So, I mean, what are they going to do? Keep him there forever? I guess not. He's with the team here. So 96-97, he ends up playing 78 games.

He's 17.4 points a game, which is great. That's amazing. It's great. 5.3 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 2.7 steals, a career high for steals per game. And he leads the NBA in steals that year. And he's second team all defensive NBA team here. And better than that, he makes $2.8 million that year. He's great.

So he's doing lovely for himself. October 97, there's an article in the New York Times saying basically like everyone in the NBA smokes a shitload of weed. And they're talking about this is not a surprise. It's a bunch of young guys. Cliff Robinson, Damon Stoudmire. It's young guys who are in a game that's not predicated on physical aggression. So you know what i mean i mean obviously there's aggression but it's not physical aggression like football or you know

we're boxing or something like that based on punching a man in the mouth no it's based on shooting and there's some there's some art to basketball that's the thing it's not just a straight force game or anything like that there's somebody that i knew in high school that smoked a shitload of weed played a shitload of basketball and all we all did pretty goddamn good that's what i mean that's pretty wild every kid on the team on like the basketball team in high school it was good they were all fucking stoners everybody hung out and smoked all the time it was and it was one of those things where if you so i remember in high school no matter how much and this is dumb i'm not telling people to go smoke a lot of weed but i would play 10 games of full court basketball a

day so i could smoke all the weed I wanted. I would never notice it in my lungs because all I was doing was running. So it was one of those things. So I could see that. This report in the New York Times says that marijuana smoking and heavy drinking are rampant, revolving about 70% of the players here, which makes sense. Young guys with money that like to party. I get that.

The estimates based on players, former players, agents, and basketball executives, here which makes sense young guys with money that like to party i get that the uh the estimates based on players for former players agents and basketball executives they kind of made that figure the fuck up ahmad rashad right pipe down you fucking square one agent said the figure may actually be higher yeah oh i think it's more than that everybody i wrapped i don't have a client that's not fucked up so yeah uh dallas guard here one of their players didn't want to be named said no one can really know but it wouldn't surprise me if it's 70 percent derrick harper you know if he says don't uh you don't follow guys home but it's just from what you hear i think it's probably close to 70 percent he said that with a lisp yeah he did

no uh weed is not covered by the league substance abuse policy then. It's just the hard drugs there. David Stern said, though, he would like to have a drug policy that includes marijuana because he's an asshole who wants a league where everybody's fucking edgy and annoyed and not happy and calm and playing their best. He says, quote, that substance can impair people and cause them to be guilty of criminal conduct we don't want that i think it's incumbent upon us to make a statement about that and then the league said hey motherfucker guess guess guess who the people pay to see right us guess who smokes weed all of us right so yeah no they start paying to see david stern will fucking start

thinking otherwise yeah or executives who are sober right until until anybody buys a ticket to a son's game to see jerry colangelo shut your fucking mouth david exactly uh carl malone said quote marijuana is not tested for and yet that is the big thing guys are getting in trouble for with the league it's terrible uh i don't know what that means then he says what you're saying to all the young kids playing in college is this smoke all the pot you want because it won't be detected until you are picked up by the cops and it's all over the newspapers okay so he's saying it's a catch-22 yeah you you don't get told you you don't get told not to do it yeah and then and then you get busted when you get busted for it.

When you get busted with it, you're the devil. Right. You're a monster. Which is true. Yeah. It is true. And he said that shit in Utah. That's wild.

He said it in Utah in 1997. That's brave. Which is way different. Some brave words. Weed still feels way out of place in Salt Lake City. We just got back from there. It was weird. Yeah.

Yeah, it was weird. I felt like people were going to come in and try to convert me to LDS while I was smoking in the green room. Booze feels weird there, and that's been there a long time. They want it to feel weird. They do. They want you to feel like a piece of shit. They want you to feel dirty like you needed that. Yeah.

Okay, are you happy now? I feel better. Now that you have that, your little thing here. Tell you what, let's talk about Jesus for a while. Come here for a second. How do you feel about having your own planet? Dude, I went to a fucking David Busters. I had a beer at the bar and I turned, because my kids

were playing games, video games, I turned around to walk over to check on them. There's a sign there that says no beer past this point and I'm standing next to the sign and a lady goes, your beer has to be by the bar. And I was like, there's a sign right here. And she goes, there's another one over there. I was like, how many fucking checkpoints are in this place? Jesus,

about beer? Right. Calm down. It's a fucking beer. You're jamming black car heroin next to the fucking ski ball game? Both knotted out with your arm tied off and a needle hanging out. Hold on a minute. I'm on. Hey, give me about 10 minutes for this to pass and I'll move, okay?

It's a fucking beer. Calm down, Talmadge. It's a fucking Corona. Calm down, Talmadge. It's a fucking Corona. Jesus Christ. Jesus. Fuck. In some states, you can have an open container in the car as long as you're not drunk. Dave and Buster's in Alabama.

If I don't have a beer, the fuck's wrong with you, pussy? Is she an alcoholic or something? That's right. You beat your wife and stuff. Court ordered. I understand. I get it. You got one of them things around your ankle. I get you only do it at your home don't you you got alcohol

you got no alcohol beyond this point on your door don't you mean with your po tomorrow all right that's fine i'll get you it's all right fucking broad i was so mad are you shitting me i'm at a i'm at a dave and busters if there's not if you don't drink at a dave and busters as an adult what am i here for dude i don't know how you would make the sound stop from rattling around your skull the only way to do that would be to drink when did this become chucky jesus christ i want mescaline if i'm going in there make this shit worth my while let's let's make it entertaining who's got mushrooms ridiculous i'm gonna fucking take them if i have to go to a dave and buster i guarantee you that waitress was on mushrooms she had probably was

she had neck tattoos and that's it not judging her but judging her she she's working at dave and busters with all those tattoos she's gotta be on something probably you can't just do that no just to survive it that's what i mean not that's not a judgment on her that's can't put up with that shit sober the fact that she is doing it means that she must be she must be on something you're having a great time let me have one otherwise you'd have just knocked the beer out of your hand called your kids the n-word for some reason and then kicked you all out that would have been it now she didn't i have a feeling she was not one of the Mormons. No. What the fuck is she yelling at me for?

Probably not. Calm down, lady. It's a beer. Jesus. Relax. 97-98 Atlanta Hawks here. 50-32. Not bad.

Again, Lenny Wilkins coaching. First round of the playoffs, so they lose to the Hornets. That was a fun Hornets team. It was. This is the Larry Johnson lines up morning and all that. It's a good team. Don't hurry. Yeah, this is nasty, this team.

And so they lose to them 3-1, but still a disappointment because they're 50-32. You win 50 games, you expect to be at least formidable in the playoffs. But Mookie's fine. Mookie starts 69 games, plays over 38 minutes a game. 13.2 points a game. He is 4.9 rebounds, 6.7 assists, 2.6 steals a game, which again leads the NBA in steals. He's again second team, all defensive team here. This is his leading the league in steals two years in a row.

Only four other guys have done that in the nba history even in even now really not just then then it had only been no then it had only been two guys really but then it was now there's two more that have done it since then unbelievable alvin robertson okay who you might remember from crime and sports fame he's from the spurs a lot of steals and a lot of other shit that guy got arrested a ton oh boy he's a trip go listen to that episode magic johnson no kidding not too fucking shabby there alan iverson uh-huh and chris paul wow that's an impressive list think about that list yeah that's impressive hall of fame hall of fame future hall of fame prison and mookie blaylock and then mookie blaylock as well so and albert allen robinson was a great player before he fucked it up. That wasn't his fault.

Mookie this year, three million bucks even. Made himself up to three million dollars. The man's over ten million dollars. Oh, he's made well over that. He's doing great. We'll have a total here in a few. 98-99 Atlanta. They're 31-19. This is the strike-shortened year.

They beat the Pistons in the first round but then get swept by the Knicks in the second round, where the Knicks will go on to lose to the Spurs and, again, break my heart. I've never gotten to see the basketball team. I like two basketball teams, Suns and Knicks. I've never gotten to see either of them win, and it's really starting to get to me.

And now it's like it's not going to happen. We have at least five to eight years before it'll happen for either of them. So I'm like, I'm just fucked. They're going to waste Devin Booker's career.

That's what they're going to do. Everybody's career that's there they're going to waste. That's all they do. Nobody's any good except for that kid. And they never re-sign their free agents anyway

so they end up going over here and going over there. I feel so bad for Devin Booker. He's genuinely one of the best players in the league and he's fucking ruined. I wish they would

take that team away from whoever the fuck owns it now and find somebody better because it's pathetic. He's a dickhead. Stop it. I can't stand the Colangelos

but they at least knew how to run a fucking basketball team. Because they're businessmen. Gee, who's the GM of the Champion Raptors right now? Who is it, Jimmy?

Who is it? I don't know. I think it's Brian Colangelo. Look it up and see if it's still Brian Colangelo. I'll bet it is. If not, he was there the last few years and built that team. I'll bet it fucking is.

To what it is. But I think he's the GM of that team, if I'm not mistaken. Who, you know, that's his dad owned the Suns. Right. And he used to be the fucking Suns guy. And now he's not. GM of the Toronto Raptors. Check it out.

I really want to hear this now. I hope it is. Is it him? I don't know. Let's have a look. Find it out. Oh, it's Bobby Webster right now. Oh, Bobby Webster. Where was was he was he there a couple years ago no that cannot be it is the guy is like fucking 17 james jesus christ look at this guy colangelo is there a couple years ago that is

the gm of an nba basketball team he looks like an intern on andrew yang's fucking presidential campaign that's what he looks like he's just just like a young, like, tech-looking guy. Unbelievable. How did that kid get that job? Does his dad own it? I am not sure. Wow. Wasn't he the Raptors GM for a long time? He was. Let me find out. Raptors history. Built a lot of this

team, I assume. You would assume, yeah. I mean, something like that. I cannot believe that that kid is their fucking general manager. That's insane. That does not make any sense. No, he looks like he's in choir with my daughter. Yeah.

Honestly, he genuinely looks like he's a teenager. Brian Colangelo is with an I. It's got to be, right? Is it a Y? I think it's a Y. It might be. Brian Colangelo for some reason. Colangelo.

No. Yeah, maybe. Yes, it is. It is. Okay. It's with a Y. I i was like did i make him up completely so he was the uh 2002 uh two 2007 five to seven nba executive of the year uh right now he is the uh front officer of this office career sons raptors he is still there today no it's not okay so uh whatever is he either way successful 76ers sons aren't and they're great 76ers yes you know what the sons are fucking terrible every year

every year can't take it anymore yeah jesus christ the 76ers are a great team and it's because brian colangelo is terrific yep so mookie has his typical year 13.3 points a game 5.8 assists 4.8 4.7 rebounds 2.1 steals he's got a line that he's that he plays within and he's very consistent second uh team all nba defensive team again 3.6 million dollars wow for mookie he has fuck wow I didn't realize he was so rich. Yeah, he's feeling good, Mookie, right now. He's cracking his knuckles. Yeah, laid back. This kind of money makes you feel like he was the name of a Pearl Jam album, and they ended up paying him for it.

That kind of money that he's made is amazing. It's fucking awesome. June 29th, 1999, he is traded by the Hawks. This is the end of his Hawk life here. Traded by the Hawks with a first-round draft pick, a guy who was later Jeff Foster, to the Golden State Warriors for Bimbo Coles, Dwayne Farrell, and a later draft pick, which turns out to be Jason Terry. Oh, not a bad pick.

Yeah, good player there. 99-2000, he goes to golden state here this is a not the golden state war as you think of now they're terrible this is a terrible team their roster is like 20 players long 25 because there's so many guys coming and going it's bad jason caffey terry cummings if we remember at the end of his so ugly eric dampier uh donald foil it's getting bad antoine jamesonoine Jamison was a highlight here. Donald Royal. That was the name of the Royal Cup.

Donald Royal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was his name. There you go. Donald Royal. Thank you. Antoine Jamison, Donyell Marshall, Tim Legler, John Starks at the end of his career. Billy Owens, who was there forever.

The old power forward on those teams before Weber came in. And Jesus Christ, this team, 19-63. And this is the P.J. Carlissimo, Latrell Sprewell choked him guy coach. He gets fired in the season, though, when they hire somebody else. It doesn't matter. They suck. I think P.J. went to Portland after that. Yes, and then he was nixed for a while somewhere.

The Nets, the Nets, not the Nets. Yes, you're right, the Nets. The Nets. So Golden State that Not the Knicks. Yes, you're right. The Nets. The Nets. So, Golden State that year. Terrible. But Mookie, okay. 72 games started. 11.3 points a game.

Which, I mean, bad team. Everything's going to go down when your team is that awful. 3.7 rebounds. 6.7 assists. Two steals a game. And he makes $4.2 million. To win 19 games. To be terrible.

Wow. It's fucking wild. Oh my fuck, man. He's starting to take things a little less seriously. Of course. Mookie is really into golf. I cannot express how into golf Mookie is. He is known for it.

Really? He's obsessed with golf. Really? Loves golf. All he wants to do is play golf. This era of basketball, that's their fucking favorite thing. It's so weird. Yeah, so he's, but I mean, this is

like from when he came into the league, he's just really into golf. He's loved it that long. He loves golf. I don't know what it is about it, he just loves playing golf. He played in the NBA to make enough money to play golf. To relax and play golf. Yeah, he's one of those guys. Like Charles Barkley. Or he'd have to make more if he wanted to be Barkley, because you've got to gamble a lot of it away. And play in much more exclusive courses.

Oh, well, yeah, absolutely. Because you're Charles Barkley. After the casino. And that's where the women that give great blowjobs are at. Well, yeah. Also the ones you might have to coerce to get great blowjobs. Ship them off a couple. You know what I mean.

Teammates, girlfriends that you're going to try to coerce to give blowjobs to. We've heard a lot about how the Suns players rolled in the mid 90s there. It was very scummy. It was pretty gross. It's not good. Listen to the Oliver Miller episode. I'm just like, good Lord. So February 2001, Mookie skips a practice.

Why is he skip practice? Does he have a car accident? Is one of his kids sick? Nope. He was playing golf. So skip. Yeah. And he's in California. I mean, he have a car accident is one of his kids sick nope he was playing golf so uh skipped yeah not and then he's in california too i mean so he's he's starting to really kind of go on cruise control here he is stripped of his captaincy of the team he's the captain of the team and he's

stripped of his captaincy that's serious yeah he skipped a practice to play golf that's not an example no he's the captain he's supposed to go, hey, guys, get your shit together. We need you. You're heading the game and all that kind of shit. You want to play golf? We're going to give the captaincy to Tim Legler. Well, they give it to Antoine Jameson. That's a good one. Yeah, they had to give it to a good player. They couldn't give it to Tim Legler.

We're really going to embarrass you, Mookie. We're giving your C to Tim Legler. And the rest of the team just, that's embarrassing for all. That's what they deserve for 19 wins. Well, it gets worse. 2000-2001, they have 17 wins. How is that even possible?

17 and 65. Oh, my God. Holy shit. By the way, their coach they hired the year before as an interim coach, Gary St. Jean, was 13-42 as their coach filling in. They move him up to executive that year. What? And hire Dave Cowens as the coach.

I think I got a promotion for that shit. You did a real bang-up job. We can't believe you won that many games. That's amazing. We are blown away. So I'm fired. No, no, promote it. No, we'd like you to have the big office in the corner with the windows.

That's what we're looking for. 13. It's pretty good. You're in. You're in, buddy. Now we won 17. 17 and 65. Not good.

Things aren't going well. Mookie, 11 points per game, so that's going down a little bit. 3.9 rebounds, 6.7 assists. That's the same. 2.4 steals. So he's still trying hard on the floor. I mean, nothing,

can't sneeze at his effort. $4.8 million for the Mook sneeze at his effort. $4.8 million for the Mookster here that year. $4.8 million. He's over $20 million, James. Oh, yeah. 2001, 2002,

team goes 21 and 61. Oh, jeez. Just, and they're firing coaches like that's the problem. Right. Yeah, that's the problem. It's all,

you have all the talent for a title, just no one knows how to put it together those people are winning more games than the guy that you promoted one what are we doing and by the way he keeps his job even though he hired a coach that was so terrible that they had to fire him halfway through this season too he had hired that guy but that guy keeps this but you keep your job even though you put bad players and bad coaches on the floor together you've won the least amount of games of any coach in the NBA's history.

Excellent work. Yet you're out scouting for coaches. I wonder, was he considered, I hope, for executive of the year? Because it seems like he would have been a shoo-in for that. Let's hope he was considered, at least. So Mookie here this year plays in 35 games, starts zero games this year. Yeah, they take him out of the starting lineup. 3.4 points a game, 17.1 minutes a game.

So cut his minutes in half. He was 34 minutes a game the last year. Now down to 17. 3.4 points a game, down to 1.5 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 0.7 steals. James, it's over. So they neutered him. Yeah. $5.4 million, though, for that.

I could put up those numbers, I think. I'll try. I'll certainly try. For that amount of money. Tell you what. I'll smoke weed before every game, and I'll try my hardest. That I'll promise you. I promise you that.

I'll bet you more people will watch me try to do that than watched mookie blaylock put those numbers on you'd be like the pace car it'd be great that's what i mean all it's like the same thing with racing these cars are all going 200 miles an hour it doesn't that doesn't show anything i want to see somebody's like shitty like 98 chevy cavalier going so you can see exactly wow that's fast i want the i don't even want to see the aerial view. I want the cam inside the Cavalier so you can hear... As these cars fly by,

you go, see how fucking fast these people are going? That's entertaining. I'm doing 85 and this car is going to fall apart. Exactly. Now, if you come in the game for like six minutes a game...

It'll be great to watch LeBron dunk on me. People go, these guys are tremendous athletes. Are you seeing this? I mean, look at that. You with like a GoPro on your head as you're running and LeBron's nutsack clears its fucking, clears its frame. You're going to be like, Jesus.

People are going to be like, oh, these athletes are amazing. Five minutes a game. They'd be so good promotion for the league. Does that executive with the Warriors still have his position because i am declaring myself eligible yeah we'll take it you never know if he's up there in a position honestly hire me i think they probably got rid of him when they because they're good now yeah so you know uh but whatever the worst team is i'm declaring myself eligible for their draft yeah i'll I'll play. See, with me, it would suck because I would suck just as bad out there. They dominate me just as hard, but I'm 6'4", so I'd at least look like I...

They'd be like, why is that guy out there? It'll at least look like if I just stood there with my arms up on the side... You'd be conned, Kat. ...and the ball didn't go to me, nobody would notice. You know what I mean? Literally, they'd be like, I don't know. There's that guy. You'd be goddamn John Conrad.

Is there an Italian guy in the league that's weird he must be from there he's probably from there he probably speaks to english this guy used to play in italy yeah that's what you would think whereas you know with me they'd be like why is the guy that cleans the fucking floor after the game still here if i got the ball they'd be like oh god what the hell happened there did he hit his head before he went out there Dude just took it from him and then fucking knocked him down and dunked on him. Jesus, that's sad. The guy that cleans the floor is early for his shift, and he's wearing a uniform. For some reason, they gave him a uniform.

He must have a... He is checking in, you guys. He's at the scorer's table checking in. I bet he's got a five-foot vertical leap. That's the only thing I can explain this. It's a spud web-type player. This kid's going to be amazing. He's in his late 30s.

I'm in my prime. No hair and he's white, but he's going to dunk. He's going to rock this shit. Are those moles on his head? I think they are. I think they are. It's going to be good stuff. Can we get a bobblehead of him?

Get a giveaway. Can we get a lumpy bobblehead of that? It's going to be awesome. So that is it for Mookie. Oh, no. He retires after this. All his career is done. He played a total of, he started 800 games in the NBA.

That's awesome. That's amazing. He played in 889, but he started 800 games. That's awesome. He averaged 34.9 minutes a game, 13.5 points per game, 4.1 rebounds, 6.7 assists, and 2.3 steals a game. Average for the career. Average for his entire career. That's awesome.

The only two seasons where he did not have over two steals a game average was his first and last season, which is incredible. And the last one is because he played like 11 minutes. Well, the first one, 25.3 minutes a game, and the second one was 17.1 minutes a game. So, yeah, you play him over 30 minutes, he's going to have a couple of steals, guaranteed.3 minutes a game, and the second one was 17.1 minutes a game. So, yeah, he didn't get over 30. You play him over 30 minutes, he's going to have a couple of steals, guaranteed. That's awesome. His money total makes a little under $32 million. Wow.

So, good money. Unbelievable. The Mookster is going to kick back and relax, and that's what he does. He kicks back. He relaxes throughout the 2000s here. The aughts. He chills. He parties.

He plays a lot of golf. His wife divorces him. His wife gets tired of his drinking and driving, basically. He does that a lot. Drives like a maniac. Drives fast. Drives stupid times. His wife leaves him because she said that he's going to kill

somebody in the car one day and i don't keep i don't want to be married to him when it happens and his wife divorces him so there's that and there's a lot this is a weird thing man when his kids um he i i don't want to say he has nothing to do with his kids but by all accounts later on his kids act like he doesn't fucking exist wow um when there's pictures of his mom and his stepdad they say they're his parents and they're like his mom and his stepdad and moogie's never in the picture and if anything the people the kids are like i don't want to you know don't don't treat me like my dad type of shit like the kids i don't know if it's they're trying to make their own path or if they've had some beef

actually distancing with them. Yes. But when they give credit for shit, they give it to their mom and their stepdad, John. Oh, that's who they give it to. God. So, yeah, it's interesting. What sport did John play? I don't know.

John's a big white dude. I'm not sure what he played. Not positive, but maybe basketball. He seems pretty tall. I'm not sure what he played. Not positive, but maybe basketball. He seems pretty tall. I'm not sure, but maybe volleyball. Is his last name Con-Cac? That would have been amazing. That would have been great.

Con-Cac laying down the con-cock on him. He says, con-cock. he says con cock and fucking lays that shit down holy shit that's why they gave him all that money yeah we're just afraid of his penis they're like a concoct's gonna come in with his penis and wave it around we're we really we really can't have this we need to uh let's just sign him, give him whatever he wants. I'm scared of his penis. So, yeah, he's not. I hate to say that because we don't have like exact things. But I don't know, man, your kids, when your kids grow up, you would assume if any of them do well, they're going to say, yeah, my mom and dad were cool. Right. They're not going to be like my mom and somebody else and not even mention you.

You know, that guy, my dad. Yeah yeah like that would sting that's what i'm saying so i hear that a lot and it feels on purpose like there's literally don't treat me like my dad like i'm making my own path like not like oh my dad's great and he helped me a lot and then here's a quote from mookie right there's no quotes from mookie nothing in any of these articles about his kids i'm succeeding and i give all that credit to my mother. My mother? Right. Not the guy that made $32 million in the NBA.

And that's the thing, too. They all say they never wanted for anything. He supported his kids and things like that. It wasn't like he was a deadbeat dad or anything like that. But it seems to be. Yeah, he has kids with his ex-wife, and he takes care of those kids. And, I mean, you know, takes care of his responsibilities and everything like that. and he takes care of those kids and I mean, you know,

takes care of his responsibilities and everything like that, but he doesn't seem to be really close to the kids or really a huge influence from what they say. And like I said, I can't judge that, but a friend of his, the Solomon guy, the ex-ball boy who said he liked to smoke weed every game, he says that he was just at this point, he's drinking, he's spending his life at the strip club, Mookie is. He said that he's at the strip club mook he is he said that he's at the strip club sometimes five days a week oh that's too many that's a job at that yeah like

yeah that's a job it's literally you're taking shifts to patronize a fucking strip club to give strippers money right that's your job that's not a job that's a terrible job that's a job that is not going to last long that doesn't have a 401k there's no 401k that's an expensive job you literally might as well just say can i be a manager like you may as well i'm here five days a week right can i just be a comedian because that pays the same it's nothing negative sitting here negative at least there's boobs there yeah that's it he's got a point yeah and you didn't have to think of a stupid joke for this exactly because i mean at the end that's the thing as a comic at the end you know you have to think of a stupid joke for this exactly because i mean at the end that's the thing as a comic at the end you know you have to have a big joke because your ending is thank you

goodbye right whereas at the end if you're doing a set at a strip club in between strippers at the end of your set no matter how bad it is it's and here's tits like yay you're introducing something they want at the end you could be terrible but at the end. You could be terrible, but at the end, they're going to be happy with you because you introduced that. It totally seems like a better gig. I don't know. So, yeah, four or five times during the week. Too much. Yeah.

His drinking, too, is just out of control. He's drinking a lot. A lot, a lot, a lot of drinking. In 2009, the police come to his house for a domestic disturbance after his girlfriend calls him calls the police in the middle of a fight nobody ends up being arrested here though police there's police reports and things like that and uh yelling screaming throwing shit things like of that nature uh nobody with any marks or bruises or anything that would require arresting it's one of those well can

you guys fucking not kill each other tonight we're gonna leave you alone i broke my own shit all right well yeah somebody has illegal somebody somebody go to a hotel tonight and you know whatever that sort of thing so um april 2010 he is uh wow he's arrested um he is pulled over um man he's so drunk for reckless he's pulled over for dui oh no he's so fucking drunk uh first of all well we'll give you you can guess his blood alcohol after i tell you what happened he's so drunk that when police asked him to get out of the car he had put it in neutral oh no he didn't get it all the way up to park and so when he stepped stepped out it rolled the car fucking rolling away damn it that's how shit-faced he is uh so you got to be drunk to do that how drunk is he 0.27 0.36 oh my that's not dude behind the wheel point you shouldn't be able to stand up at 0.3 so you don't even know where the fuck you are you can't spell your name no even if

it's mookie i think John Bonham died just over that. Literally, the drummer for Led Zeppelin died. I think it was like.410 or some shit. .4 is generally dead. Bad. Yeah, it's generally dead. .360. That's a lot.

Driving. Unbelievable. Think about the decision making there. Wherewithal to put key in ignition and car into drive. And pull over when you get lights behind you. Yeah. But not put it in park that tells you how much and often he drinks that's my point every that's an alcoholic that

functions on that right and uh yeah that's so fucking drunk man that's insane much uh he goes to court for this uh he's charged with dui obviously it's reduced in court from dui to reckless driving why that's an extreme extreme extreme however many extremes you want to put on it dui there's no reason to not treat that as in a fucking that's what i mean i'm i'm i'm not for harshness of if you're hammered and you do something terrible and you bash into somebody or something that's whatever but when they pull somebody over and they're fucking 0.8 right and they take them in you can tell they're not drunk they're fuck come on they're not drunk and they're probably okay and you know they're probably all right right like i feel bad at that

point when people get arrested for shit like that because i get that they still are a little bit impaired blah blah blah but you know what if you're fucking little if you're a little sleepy it's the equivalent of 0.08. It really is. So it's not much different. And everybody out there is on fucking pills and medication and everything else. So shut the fuck up. And you got this guy at 0.03.

I don't drink at all. So this is not coming from like, hey, ease up on the drunk drivers. Take it easy on me so that I can drink. Yeah, I don't drink. I'd prefer it if everyone wasn't drunk on the roads. But I'd also prefer it if they weren't on pills all the time. Right. I love to drink, but now I don't drink. I'd prefer it if everyone wasn't drunk on the roads, but I'd also prefer it if they weren't on pills all the time. Right. I love to drink, but now I don't drink and drive.

No. I mean, I'll have a beer with dinner or whatever and drive, but I'm not fucking getting hammered. No, because it's stupid. It's crazy. It's fucking crazy. Because this, 0.36. It's crazy. That's unbelievable.

I'm not thinking at all here. And somehow that's not a DUI. That is reduced to reckless driving like he was just just speeding why not treat that as an example yeah put that all over the news that's what i mean especially because this is a not his first time doing this and b you know that's just that's a lot and and c he has upped the fucking ante oh yeah to i will drive to the point of almost death oh there's there's more. And I'll keep driving. Do you want to see you keep driving?

That's April 2010.360. Over the summer, he's arrested again for DUI. Guess what that charge is? It's dropped again to reckless driving. He's arrested twice in a four-month period for the same thing. One of them excessively extreme. Both reduced. That second one

should be... We're now reducing shit we're going for the maximum whatever we can because you didn't learn your lesson from three fucking months how high is this one this one i don't know the exact yeah uh number but i do know the number of the one he got in november 2011 oh my god when he gets another dui two years and three times stopped james yeah think about that how of times he drank, it's insane. Somebody who can walk around and function with this much alcohol in their system is a fucking alcoholic. Absolutely.

And they're doing this every day. All the time. Five times a week he's going to the strip club. Do you think he's not drinking at the strip club? 100% of the times he's drunk. Yeah. I think he's having club soda at the strip club. Oh, boy.

I better stop drinking. I'm going to go home in a couple hours. He's not Ben Affleck in the town drinking cranberry juice yeah this is this man loves booze this guy's drinking at the strip club he's going to drink and throw money at women that's what he's fucking doing uh so november 2011 dui he has a blood alcohol content of 0.272 this time god dude that's so drunk that's almost two extreme duis in arizona that i think so much point two is an point one five is uh yeah it's the extreme so that's two point that's two extremes because this is point two seven two right right so it's almost two almost double you mean right

yeah almost double oh i thought you meant he's almost had two with the last two arrests this right here they should give him two for this one yeah because it's almost double the last one was two right you are two drunk men right now you have the alcohol of two extreme drunk men the blood your blood is two if we took your blood out and divided it and split it amongst two people they would both be extremely drunk extremely drunk we could share your blood with two adult human males and they'd both be too drunk to drive the maximum penalty dui yeah by far that's how drunk you are stupid that's crazy think about that that's unbelievable he could have split his blood up between the two of us right and we'd both be stumbling around we both can't drive and he is driving like that twice insane what the shit yeah uh this is fucking crazy uh what do

they do with this one uh they reduce it to reckless driving i swear to god this uh this is in georgia he still lives in georgia can you say silver haired middle age everybody yeah silver haired middle age everybody yeah if this. Silver haired middle age. Everybody. If this is you, you're in prison. Oh, boy. We know a guy right now who is sitting in prison and didn't have that high blood alcohol level. No one reduced his to shit.

He's in prison for that. He still has several months to go. That's what I mean. This is insane. This is because he's not Mookie Blaylock. Apparently, he's not Mookie Blaylock. Yeah. My God.

The prosecutor said later on or not the prosecutor this was a commentator here he said quote it was a 0.272 blood alcohol content which is a dui unless there's some difficulty getting into evidence the breath test results then that's a dui in anybody's book it's not reckless driving no it's not a dui the dui just kind of it brushes under the rug how drunk you are this is fucking insane dui they need an swd shit faced while driving they need that like to really give it the the fucking punch it needs right hammered fucking you know, whatever you're... This guy was fucked up. Fucked up while driving. FWD, motherfucker. Fucked up while driving.

Unbelievable. Trashed. That's silly. Reckless driving. Unbelievable. Insane. 2012, good time for his children. His son, Zach, and Darren are both going to play football for Kentucky.

Wow. It's not too shabby. Darren plays all... The twins. Yeah, the twins. Darren plays all four years at linebacker and defensive back. Both of them are kind of bench guys. Not real big on the stats, but they both play,

get a four-year good education from Kentucky for free on a scholarship. Good for them. March 20th, 2013, Blalock is spotted walking toward a grocery store when he fell down in the parking lot what this is after when they tracked him back to where he was uh they found his car smashed into another one what he came into the grocery store parking lot smashed into another car left it there got out tried to go in the store and fell down because he was so fucking drunk on that's how drunk he was he couldn't even park he couldn't even walk to the grocery store about falling so we know 272 he can walk around fine he's drunker than that

right think about that did they give him did they give him a dui for this charge with a dui good finally fucking finally they're not going to reduce this one. At this point, now there's a victim. Like before. Yeah. At least bashed into property. It wasn't just he got stopped. Yeah. There's something.

But I mean, good Lord. How many times can you fucking do one thing before they get you? They're finally, you're going to spend a night in jail for once. Holy shit. Was this during the day? This is during the day. That's why they got him. Because it's fucking broad daylight.

Because it's broad daylight. They're like, what the fuck are you doing yeah if he did this at two in the morning you probably drove off and no one would have noticed it that's the thing he could a parked car in a parking lot somebody comes out of a grocery store with a giant a mookie blaylock size dent in the side of the car well but instead someone comes out of the grocery store and they see a an nba all-star drooling on his face on the pavement while they hear a horn blaring because his car smashed into a fucking other car and it's 2 11 in the afternoon yeah you're like jesus i gotta go get my kids from school what the hell's going on here

fuck me how am i supposed to do that so he's actually in in jail for a minute yeah and uh you know i mean he's it's gotta be a wake-up call maybe you think so after that i mean he goes home he's wealthy yeah he's gotta sit and go okay let's see what i have here take stock of this life i have five beautiful children five kids five beautiful kids all you know gonna be successful in life they're growing up two of them are in a major university playing college football i'm embarrassing them right because when this article comes out it says mookie blaylock former blah blah blah and father of current oh god it says that on every fucking article so painful he starts getting arrested after they go to college so and it's going to get even worse in a second so he's just i mean he's got to be sitting in his house and take stock like i need to flush i need

a flushing. I need a fucking something. I got to do something. And then there's a knock at the door. There's a knock at the door, and it's Paul Calhoun, shit pipe enthusiast. And he says... How is it you come to arrive here, guy? Because I got to tell you, I've seen a lot of shit pipes in my day.

I'm the guy with the shit pipes, let me tell you, pal. I come over, I would say I clean your shit pipes, I smack your wife, but I think she's been through fucking enough at this point, you know what I mean? Looks like she left you. You left? Your wife ain't here. I don't see any women's clothes laying around here, so I'm going to say she left. I don't want to smack a stripper. That's not polite to them.

These poor bastards have to put up with you every fucking day. So you know what? I'm going to give you a smack. How about I clean your shit pipes and smack you upside the fucking head with my pipe? How's that sound? How about I clean your shit pipes and smack your life? Smack your life. Tell you what.

You know who I brought in here? Come here. Come here, buddy. I brought Kevin Willis with me. I brought Kevin Willis. I. I brought Kevin Willis. I'm going to clean your shit pipes and he's going to smack you with his monstrous gargantuan cock. That's how we're going to do this.

Right across the head. When you recover from your concussion, then we're going to have another talk about it. All right? Kevin, drop him. Let's go. Poof. And a poof of PVC and shit and pipes. Kevin Willis to dick smite you. and a poof of PVC and shit and pipes. Paul Calhoun.

Kevin Willis to Dick Smite you. Yeah, I love it. That's the new team. Paul Calhoun, he cleans his shit pipes with Kevin Willis' giant cock. He's got a multi-purpose cock over here. You ever seen one of those drain snakes? Well, I got Kevin Willis. I got Kevin Willis.

He does the whole pipe. Oh, it has to be a pretty big pipe. It's got to be a big pipe, though. He just kind of pushes it through. Yeah, if you got those little ones, like a little three-quarter, that's not going to do it. You got to have like a four-inch pipe, one of them, then we can use it. A four-inch main.

Otherwise, it's like a fucking log, this thing. You got to see it. So, late April. Jesus Christ. Dick smite. Why not? so uh late april jesus christ why not late april 2013 uh blaylock is eating lunch in a fancy restaurant in atlanta and he has a seizure oh no while he's eating lunch this isn't the first time he's had a seizure too he's had some sort of little seizure problem lately really uh but he has a seizure while eating lunch in the restaurant. He never had, like, what do you call that, the disease where you get those?

No, he didn't. Epilepsy. That's the word. Yeah, no. So that was the thing. He just kind of started having these seizures recently. Now, also, you'll have different, if you have withdrawals of different things, it can cause different things. So we don't know.

But this is like a true seizure, apparently. And during the seizure, ambulance is called. Police are there. Everybody's trying to save the guy's life. They take him to the hospital and everything like that. It's a big deal. His doctor orders him not to drive. He says, you have a condition.

I don't know what it is, but you're having seizures. And we need to figure this out. Something neurological is happening. Yeah. And we don't know what it is, but you're having seizures and we need to figure this out. Something neurological is happening. Yeah. And we don't know when it's going to happen. So do not drive. Had him sign a document pledging not to drive. He said, please, I can't let you just go out the door.

You have to tell me you're not going to fucking drive because you're going to kill somebody if you do this. It's very dangerous. This is my license, motherfucker. It's dangerous. And, you know, there's other people's lives at risk here. And if you're shit faced and having seizures, this is really going to be bad enough. You're one or the other. Right. But so, you know, it's one at risk here. And if you're shit-faced and having seizures, this is really going to be bad enough to one or the other. Right.

But so, you know, it's one of those things. So that is April of 2013. Late April. May 31st, 2013. Okay. Just a few weeks later. A few weeks later. There's a couple named Frank and Monica Murphy.

Oh, Jesus. And they're driving in south of downtown Atlanta. It's one in the afternoon. Bright day. They just turned onto Route 19 on 41. It merges with three lanes of traffic going on another thing. At that point, it's about one o'clock. They're house hunting.

They just moved here from Plano, Texas. Just moved to Atlanta from Plano. They have five children. Just moving there with five kids, trying to start over. They've had a tough time. He's just got laid off from FedEx. Oh, no. Yeah, it's just a tough time.

And they also, they've lived in Plano, Texas, and they lived in a few other places. They're an interracial couple with five kids. They've been married for 20 years, and they've had problems. Oh, beige and gorgeous. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. They've had problems with that, where people have a smaller place, a place like that, where people have been kind of shitty to them about it.

So they wanted to go to Atlanta where nobody cares. Yeah. Nobody gets a fucking Atlanta. In fact, they fucking encourage it. Oh, nobody cares. No. And it's just everybody's mixing together. White fathers everywhere are like, would you please go fuck Jermaine Dupri and give me a

Carmel grandchild? Yeah. It's going to be gorgeous. Better for Instagram instagram pictures let's do this less filters makes me look less racist honestly take a picture of my little carmel grandkid look at me don't call me racist it's gotta be a couple of those yeah so they're preparing they're moving here they're looking their house hunting frank's driving uh they're no kids are in the car it's just a So they're preparing. They're moving here. They're looking at their house hunting. Frank's driving. No kids are in the car. It's just a couple. They're looking for a house. They're driving around looking for sale places

and kind of taking peeks. You know what you do without a real estate agent. You look at the thing and you're like, I don't want to look at that one. Just fuck this neighborhood. Yeah, you know that. We've all done that hunt. The quick one on your own. They're driving a Chrysler Town and Country minivan. Oh, that thing.

Five kids. Yeah. Yeah, you had one of those. Yeah, I did. As a rental when they fixed your Jeep. So they're at a red light. And the red light turns green. And they start going forward at that point.

It's at this moment that Frank sees a black Cadillac Escalade speeding toward them from across the other lane. Yeah. At a 45 degree angle. Right. Which is not how people drive on roads. So it's very odd. It's going over 50 miles an hour. Going the opposite direction.

Toward them. Yeah. It was over a median. Oh, Jesus. Toward them at a 45 degree angle going 50 miles an hour. It's a Cadillac Escalade. It's a giant SUV. It's a fucking bus, basically.

It's enormous. It's like the weight of a school bus. Murphy, they're sitting there. It just turned red, so he'd just taken his foot off the gas. There's no momentum. If you gun a town and country, it's going nowhere for three seconds. It's going to go, and then pull forward slowly it's not a clutch has got a grab yeah it's not great uh so he could not do anything at all and the car the escalade smashes into uh the front corner of the car of the driver's side of? Of the passenger side. Oh, no.

Frank is knocked unconscious, and he ends up with a broken ankle. But Monica, on the other hand, who's 43 years old, is crushed by the car in there because it hits the corner and crushes her 50-mile-an-hour Escalade. She's stuck between the seat

and the dashboard, sandwiched in there. God damn it. Smashed. She has terrible uh terrible injuries uh here uh she uh she's initially taken to the hospital where she goes into cardiac arrest in the ambulance and uh she's taken on and she's on life support and a couple days later she dies from her injuries no five kids ages three to 15.

Holy shit. Three to 15. No mother. No mother. Father just got laid off and has a dead wife now. Holy fuck. And moving to a new city with nobody with five kids and a dead wife and a smashed car. He doesn't even have a car. He can't even go to work.

His life fell apart so fast. Two seconds. And all they were trying to do was make a fresh start. Right. You know what I mean? And do something good. Right. And get out and get a better life for their kids. Yeah. Like were trying to do is make a fresh start right you know what i mean and do something good right get out and get a better better life for their kids like everybody tries to do mookie blaylock stealing again uh this is obviously mookie blaylock's uh mookie blaylock's uh escalade uh so oh man the solicitor general of the county in georgia here said quote when we ran

his criminal history one of the first questions we asked is, why was this man still driving? At the time of the crash, he was driving with a suspended license. Not only that from all his DUIs, but an outstanding warrant to appear on DUI and drug charges for being caught with marijuana again. Oh, my God. So that was all separate. He's there. So, yeah, Monica was an insurance agent, licensed insurance agent.

She was kind of the family breadwinner at that time. She lived in Georgia a few years ago and wanted to move back so she could work from home. And she wanted to be around her kids more, spend more time with her family, work from home and start a new life there. Frankie was a warehouse forklift operator for FedEx, and he got laid off, and he was going there to try to find work because it's a bigger city with more work. And yeah, it's crazy.

Murphy, the father here, Frankie, says, quote, it's a day-to-day thing with us. It doesn't get any easier, which I guess not. So Mookie is also on life support. What? Mookie's on life support. That was a bad crash. Really? Mookie's also on life support. What? Mookie's on life support. That was a bad crash. Really?

Mookie's also on life support at first here. This is very rare. This is crazy. Yeah, we normally don't see this. Because he wasn't drunk. We'll talk about it. He had a seizure. Oh, shit.

He wasn't supposed to be driving. No. He had a seizure. His license was suspended. Who gives a shit if he signs it or not? But he knew he wasn't supposed to be driving. Even if he's sober, he knew he wasn't supposed to be driving even if he's sober he knew he wasn't supposed to be it's not like before where he's like i know i don't have a license but i'm not even drunk so i'm not going to hurt anybody he he knew at any point he could fucking this could happen so yeah uh he does he hires a fucking

lawyer though yeah tell you that much we'll talk about the life support in a second he he's on it quick and on it and off it quick and then he he's in critical condition, though, for a while. He faced, at first, they're talking about vehicular homicide charges, because they first assume he's drunk, because it's fucking Mookie Blake. They're like, what is he, a.85 this time? He's an.586. His blood is pure alcohol. So he hires a high-profile.

Take a shot of this. You're going to get booked up. Come on. It's pretty crazy. You can't even sniff this shit. He retains a high profile. Take a shot of this. You're going to get picked up. It's pretty crazy. You can't even sniff this shit. He retains some lawyers here. People who have in this firm, they've represented Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger, T.I.

Stallworth. T.I. And also the chief financial officer of the Gold Club Strip Club there that was having the big RICO trial. So, yeah yeah every fucking everybody he knows yeah jamal lewis who was busted for facilitating drug deals uh it's crazy ben roethlisberger who was up for accused of rape ray lewis accused of murder right ti i don't remember what the fucking guns guns at the airport yeah guns at the airport and murder and was he up for

murder i don't remember that murder at the fucking uh bogarts out front of fucking uh i think he was in trouble for that allegedly yeah yeah yeah we're not sure not that he murdered we're not positive of any of this so all of this he's the guy that was in trouble for somebody getting shot up oh boy oh jesus so i don't know so yeah and the the gold club rico trial wild uh yeah Yeah. So Mookie Blaylock's condition, he was airlifted to the hospital and everything and, you know, critical condition. And police say he's getting better now. He was on life support, but then he was on critical condition when he was taken off of it. He does need a wheelchair to get around. He's all fucked up and injured.

Once he is released from the hospital uh he's arrested obviously yeah and uh yeah he's arrested and paul calhoun standing there going i fucking told you i took kevin where is he oh smite this motherfucker kevin your cocks needed it well actually hold on you think i think you had knocked seizures this guy cock is so big, he'll put a seizure in you. That's when you knock your head, you have seizures for months afterwards. It's fucking cracky. You start shaking and pow, right into a mother of five. You know what I mean?

Stick around. Stick around there. Pearljam's official Twitter tweets at him, sending good thoughts to Mookie. Why would you do it? I don't know. He killed a woman. Right. I don't know.

Fuck his thoughts. They hear he's in life support, so they send out a nice tweet to Mookie. They're obsessed to Mookie. Why would you do it? I don't know. He killed a woman. Right. I don't know. Fuck his thoughts. They hear he's in life support, so they send out a nice tweet to Mookie. So they're obsessed with Mookie Blaylock. You don't ask, how did he get there? Why are you obsessed with Mookie Blaylock? Find a better player. Tweet at Steph Curry. He's a nice guy.

I don't know. Tweet at somebody. So June 11, 2013, this is when the charges are coming down here. He's also facing charges of driving on a suspended license, making an improper lane change, crossing the median. Also all this shit. Uh,

he was not drunk at the time of the crash. So the prosecutors thought initially they're only going to be able to charge him with a misdemeanor vehicular homicide because he's not drunk at that point. It's an accident. Accidents happen. You can't charge someone with, you know,

murder for an accident. He used to get him with manslaughter and that one carries that carries a maximum 12-month jail sentence uh but the most of the time people get probation for that sort of thing for manslaughter for for misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter if it was just carelessness but not like you weren't drunk you weren't you know whatever and nothing aggravating uh but the weird thing is they were able to upgrade the charges because remember that seizure he had in the restaurant yeah well uh one of the police were called there one of the responding police officers who happened to be also working this case over here here heard about this

case over here knew that mookie wasn't supposed to be driving because of the seizures right the the police didn't know that they arrested him they didn't know that. They didn't know that. They didn't know that. Oh, boy. So he was saying, hey, it's a medical condition. I wasn't drunk. I had a seizure, which would be like, oh, that poor guy. It was not his fault.

This cop knew he fucking wasn't supposed to be driving because he knows he's having seizures and he's not. And this cop knew that he was prohibited from driving because of this. So this cop calls the prosecutor and lets him know all of this fan of the magic once they find all this out he hated the hawks huge penny fan once they find all this out it was chris rock who gave it and he's like i want to keep doing them commercials at the time he was a little penny so uh uh at that point they are able to uh to upgrade the charges from second degree vehicular homicide which is a misdemeanor to first degree which is a felony oh boy there and uh the

prosecutor said quote if that officer had never sent us that email blaylock would have been charged with second degree because we wouldn't have known about the doctor's orders so this is fucking amazing uh the doctors they have the doctor's, which is what they're calling a smoking gun here. Obviously, the prosecutor said, quote, Mookie has been specifically told you're not safe. You can't drive. It was put it was put in writing to him and he signed it. That's why we view this as an indefensible case, which really makes fucking sense. The records show that the D.A. recommended reducing the reducing the charges though in all those other

cases so they're bringing that up now the media is bringing that up like hey maybe if you charged him right before this shit wouldn't happen now this this prosecutor says i've never made that recommendation and uh so then uh uh people reproduce paperwork he says well it's reduced and he says quote we did not recommend reducing from dui to reckless driving in any of those cases they got reduced who the hell did you're the prosecutor they were pled out so someone fucking agreed to it don't know who maybe you should be i don't know more into what your office was doing or something but you just sign shit all day i guess so uh uh he the they said he said he was going to try to find out why why

they were reduced uh but i'll find out right now to the bottom of it i'm pissed but the the guy literally the pike county probate court person said the judge who could answer the question was gone for the day so get back with me tomorrow literally made a phone call, but the guy's on vacation. So I don't know. But trust me, it wasn't me. Yeah. Fucking unreal. The Clayton County District Attorney, Tracy Lawson, said, quote, I would like the citizens to realize that whether you're famous or not famous, you're going to receive the same level

of justice in this county after seven times of not receiving shit. Sure doesn't feel like it. Yeah. So he wants a bond. He wants to get out of jail receiving shit. Sure doesn't feel like it. Yeah. So he wants a bond. He wants to get out of jail on this. Wow. So he, like I said, there was a warrant out for his arrest for DUI at the time,

which is fucking interesting. The lawyer said, quote, I believe oftentimes DUIs are vehicular manslaughter that didn't occur. That's what they're saying. So his DUIs were like all potential. He could have done this many other times potentially is what he's saying.

That's some hyperbole. He's massaging that shit hard. Yeah. It's something that I take very seriously, even though under the law, they're treated as misdemeanors. It's too much in court. So his attorney, Blaylock's attorney, Don Samuel,

argued at the arraignment that he's in a wheelchair. He's not a flight risk. Look at him. He's pathetic right now. He's broken down. He set his bail at $50,000, this poor man. Get him out of here. He also said, quote, this is not the day for punishment.

The day will come when we ultimately decide how this case should be handled, but not now. We've missed it. We've missed it. We've missed that day so uh let's start today uh two days later he is going to get they set a bond of 250 000 he's got to meet uh he does meet that yeah he is requiring part of this release is also 24-hour house arrest gps monitoring weekly random drug and alcohol screenings relinquishing of his passport no driving and exclusions to house arrest are only for work church doctor's visits or meetings with

his attorney that's it he's not allowed to go hey you're not allowed to go to the strip club no he's certainly not allowed to drive now or leave the country or go to canada to get more news is it's 2013 there is uber everywhere that's the thing. Yeah. What the fuck, man? Get a taxi before that even. So, man, Jesus Christ. They end up, the different attorneys end up passing it back and forth. It's really weird. I don't understand how this ends up happening. They said that the, quote, we transfer cases between offices often, but I've never appointed

one of the attorneys to help prosecute a traffic case they're getting one of their like criminal yeah attorneys a good one they're like criminal prosecutors that prosecute like murders and shit to prosecute this right as well they're not keeping it like it's normally a traffic thing they would give that to a lower level da no they're gonna they're gonna do someone getting elected is gonna go do this and make sure it gets fucking done because it's famous. Death, death. Oh, I'm sorry. Dia, not death.

The woman's name is boy. Dia Warren. Dia is our traffic expert. So they will be helping her. We also may consult with the traffic expert with the prosecuting attorney's counsel. Mookie bails out at two hundred fifty thousand and is taken to another jail because he's wanted for the right for the warrant there so he's transported to spalding county jail where he's being held on probation violation and uh other shit from shit five years ago so uh june 24th 2013 uh his lawyers propose

uh they're proposing a plea deal with house arrest as the sentence. Wow. Just give him house arrest. What are you talking about? That is rejected as fuck. I mean, Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, your mind? What are you, looking for sympathy? Look at him. He's in a wheelchair.

So what? He put himself there. I don't give a shit if he's in a wheelchair. Fuck that guy. He wasn't before that car. No. You want us to feel bad for him? I mean, no.

You know what? We'll feel bad for Monica Murphy's five kids who don't have a fucking mother anymore the youngest one the father said he had to for weeks he had to explain every day that mom wasn't coming home oh my god his kids tapes rewind three tapes rewind they go where's mom where's my oh yeah mom's never coming home and then you have to go through that every fucking day oh jesus so bad shit i mean know, that's who I feel bad for. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But I also, I say not as bad, but I feel worse for those people. But I also feel bad for Darren Blaylock, who's his son, who right now is business development at Strive Consulting, LLC, in Atlanta.

He's doing really well doing IT consulting. That's great. And he's a very good man. He's got more cool stuff, too, we'll talk about. Awesome. But Mookie, he's got worse shit than I. Darren, we're going to be at the Buckhead Theater pretty soon. Yeah, come visit us.

You can 100%. You're in for three, pal. I'd certainly love to meet you. The negotiated plea, he ends up pleading, comes the day jury selection's supposed to start. So shit's getting real. And he's like, let's just bleep this out now. I don't want to.

Let's not do this. I feel like Kevin Willis is going to come for sentencing i don't want to deal with that again so uh going to trial would risk a seven to ten year sentence here uh which would have probably been on the high end due to his dui it's a shitload of there's not a lot of sympathy to find with this guy it's hard when you have one for 036. It's crazy. Like eight years ago. Absolutely. So he takes a plea deal for what ends up being, we'll talk about it in a second here. So, wow, this is crazy.

Post, after all this, he goes to rehab. He goes to rehab, okay, before he's going to go to jail later. He's going to go to rehab. He's fucking better because jail's tough when you're addicted well yeah he's going to go to rehab but what he does before he goes to rehab is goes out drinking goes to strip clubs a lot what that's what he does now while he's out free yeah and this time period while he's awaiting sentences what is he doing oh he's gonna drink and drink and go to strip clubs uh friend of his solomon guy said quote we go to the club and people would look at him and try to ask him about it but he wouldn't want to talk

about it well i'm sure he wouldn't well i assure you why are you here drinking stupid um yeah didn't he would still drink uh six months after the this accident and everything he's out at a bar with a friend of his a guy named daryl eubanks and he let eubanks drive his own drive mookie's car even though eubanks was shit-faced drunk and had no license had his license revoked for a dui well how did that car get there uh eubanks drove it or mookie or mookie drove it somebody drove but he's gonna let him drive it home and you and blaylock also is around is fucking charged too he's and he's charged for letting this guy drive his fucking car drunk because he's yeah he's charged for letting this guy drive his fucking car drunk. He should. He's charged for that too. So he goes to court

there. When he shows up at his arrangement for court. Arraignment. Did I say arrangement? Yeah. Charges is the next word. Arraign, charge. His arraignment on those charges for work. He's drunk. He fucking shows up at court shit-faced.

He stumbles in the court. Ah court mookie you're a dickhead drunk you can't fucking do that that is the one thing you cannot do in court is show up drunk you can't show up for a dui drunk no you can't do that it's like showing up for your murder trial with a fucking a head in your hands held it by the fucking hair, going, I'm not a violent man. You're drunk. Showing up for your child molestation charges, dragging an eight-year-old. Dragging like a fucking eight-year-old,

just flicking through your phone real quick while looking around like a scared cat. What is happening here? No, no, kiddie porn, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't like it at all. Rubbing your fucking crotch. This is unreal.

So the judge holds him in contempt and puts him in jail hey stupid you're here just on pure stupidity uh the judge did say quote he was respectful he wasn't a loud mouth he wasn't carrying on but it impacts his ability to make a valid decision yeah i generally don't like people to be shit-faced if they're gonna make a legal decision in my courtroom fair enough you know uh march 14th 2014 is court for the grocery store dui because he's got that going on too the one where he smashed into that car fucking idiot he's just dumber and dumber uh he pleads guilty to dui and hit and run charges that stem from that uh he is sentenced you sir may fuck off 30 days in jail big deal uh but is credited with having served 14 already so he's fine he gets like 16 days in jail for that no big deal uh march 25th

uh 2014 is when they're uh uh officially upgrading his charges to first degree uh you know everything so he agrees to plea like we said and then he's sentenced at his sentencing he apologizes to frank yeah monica's husband uh telling him that he says the crash would stay with him for the rest of his life oh yeah oh those words yeah i'm sure frank had some smart ass shit to say also her kids you should see her kids if you think you feel bad you know that day was the rest of her life yeah yeah yeah let's imagine that so uh fucking idiot well the judge judge says pretty much the same thing he says you sir may fuck off 15 years wow in prison but uh-huh but uh with only three to actually serve in prison.

OK. OK. It's the way they work it out. It's seven years in prison, eight years on probation, but allows for the prison sentence to be suspended after three years. As long as he completes certain requirements. Right. Fifteen hundred hours of community service treatment for alcoholism alcoholism including twice weekly aa meetings which you're fucking sentencing someone in a religion right you're fucking

bullshit church don't drink i don't care how you don't do it i don't give a shit if you go worship the devil and it gets you not to drink or whatever the fuck you do yeah stop drinking jesus doesn't have to be involved in this that it works for some people it does great good for you doesn't work for everybody and the failure rate is insane and if you're like really anti-religious yeah has nothing to do with drinking and you go into that guess what you're not going to do pay attention any fucking thing they say because that shit is a religion and whatever if it works for you great i love it okay awesome whatever works for you is great i don't care i just don't like being sentenced to things that have that overtone to them uh yeah. I don't care what you sentence him to.

You could sentence him to, you know, tie him down and smash his nuts with a hammer at this point. I'm not saying it's mean. Sentence him to jerk off into the wall every day. I don't care. That's fine. And also that he doesn't drive for the entire 15 years. Okay.

So there's clearly a warrant out for his arrest because there's no way he's complying with that. Yeah. No driving yet for 15 years. Good luck. This is ridiculous but three years of actual prison which after you know he's not going to do too much time here uh they said that the judge said he has admitted he had a problem has a problem with alcohol and he's getting treatment for it uh frank though the uh you know the husband frank murphy he hasn't quite accepted it that well he said quote it seemed like he was

just trying to apologize to make himself look good i may be wrong but that's my opinion okay frank murphy he hasn't quite accepted it that well he said quote it seemed like he was just trying to apologize to make himself look good i may be wrong but that's my opinion you know what i'm on frank's side too uh he uh went to treatment in at potter's house in jefferson which is a long-term residential program for treatment of addiction uh there he apologized to frank murphy like we said uh the prosecutor said quote he said something to the effect that the accident had changed him and i think he was referring to drinking mr murphy spoke and said he understood it was a negotiated sentence i can't say he went so far to uh to to say that he was okay with it but i guess he let the court know that he didn't oppose it he was

like i think he just wanted to be over. I would assume. I'm not going to fucking fight with the prosecutor because for an extra two years. I want it to be over. Not bringing my wife back. Not helping my kids any. Whatever. So his lawyers, Mookie's lawyers, say that he's extremely remorseful

and that post-rehab he's just committed to straightening himself out and bringing some good out of this tragedy. Give those kids some fucking money. That's how you can be you can at least didn't say anything about jesus that's helpful yeah uh now 2019 uh darren was on television he was one of the contestants of the bachelorette season really absolutely he was blaylock's son was on the bachelorette darren blaylock was on the bachelorette yeah Yeah. It's under his bio there. It says, quote, along with sharing a love for football, Darren and Hannah share a lot of similar values when it comes to love. Darren says he loves a woman who can take charge.

Does that sound like anyone we know? I guess that's that broad. I don't know. I haven't fucking watched that crap, but I don't know. They said he was actually a front runner. They were like, he's going to do well. He's eliminated in week two. In the last one week that's fine but he's a big handsome college educated dude that uh is an

i.t consultant in atlanta he's gonna do ladies yeah you know jesus christ yeah yeah totally he's gonna absolutely crush he's beige beige baby yeah he's doing great he's a good looking tall handsome athletic dude with a college degree and you know he's doing fantastic doing great. He's a good-looking, tall, handsome, athletic dude with a college degree, and he's doing fantastic. Doing great. He's going to be fine. At this point, his son in 2019-ish, his other son, Dominic, his young son, who's not young anymore. He's like 18 years old in 2018. He decides that he is going to go to the University of Georgia to play football and maybe baseball, too, because he's a top-rated prospect for both.

That's how good he is. He's a five-star recruit for football and the number two wide receiver in the entire recruiting class of 2019 in America. Wow. The number two recruited wide receiver in the entire nation. What has Mookie made? It's amazing.

Like I said, volleyball player and a fucking basketball player. That's amazing. He also plays shortstop and center field and switch hits in baseball. Six foot tall, very fast, steals bases and shit like that. Yeah, they're talking about him playing both sports. In this, quote, per his stepfather, John Woods, Dominic has been told he has a chance to be a high draft pick in the mlb draft you notice it ain't mookie talking to agents about draft pick status it's fucking john woods

her his stepdad john woods dominic who's probably named after dominique wilkins yeah maybe by one of his teammates yeah jesus christ man absolutely uh now he says that uh you know he's had a lot of attention on him as a lot as a kid for his own athletics and they said is all this pressure bothered you about dominic and he said quote wow he said that the distractions have bothered him a little bit but he's learned to ignore them because they've been going on since the eighth grade when south carolina gamecocks coach steve spurrier offered him a scholarship in eighth grade that's how good he is in eighth grade they said division one player right now sign him up yeah and it's spurrier who's not a not a not a too shabby a college

coach he's still coaching today pretty fucking good college coach he's got a couple of national championships just a few very good so uh yeah so they had been recruiting him really hard and uh the coach said i'm sorry his stepdad john woods said quote he decided he felt comfortable with the university of georgia and being home with coach smart kirby is uh is one year into building a special place he works hard and recruits hard. So that's, by the way, the stepfather's quote, not old Mookie. Mookie's still a little busy. In 2019, as a freshman on the Georgia football team, which freshmen usually don't even play.

Instead, as a freshman, he plays wide receiver, plays in 12 games, has 18 receptions for 310 yards and five touchdowns, averaging 17.2 a catch. Wild. Dude's a deep threat. He's good. He's fast. Yeah, he's nasty. He could be in the NFL this guy.

He's going to probably. So keep an eye on Dominic Blaylock as a player. How great is that? That's wild, right? That's so rare that that happens with our guys. Can't get enough of Mookie Blaylock? Yeah. happens with our guys can't get enough of mookie blaylock yeah well on canadian ebay i found a game worn uh uh new jersey nets mookie blaylock jersey really absolutely uh it's 399 canadian

dollars and what is that and 12 canadian cents i don't know like 12 bucks and a 12 pack of tim horton's donuts i have no idea what what that is. A case of Labatt? Is that what that is? I don't know. It's some of that paper with the pictures of moose on it. Some with the queen. And there's something with kids playing hockey, I think. Two beaver tails.

And you give that. Yeah, and a pelt of some kind. And then I think a ticket to the Maple Leafs game. Maybe. I think all of that equals $399 Canadian dollars. I'm going to buy it. And 12 cents. I'm going to buy that.

It's pretty awesome. Make sure it's game worn. I'm not sure it is or not. But there's 12 people 12 cents. I'm going to buy that. It's pretty awesome. Make sure it's game more, and I'm not sure it is or not. There's 12 people watching it. Really? That's a lot on eBay. And also, they have all sorts of cards. Million Cards is Rookie Cards. $2.65 Canadian cents or best offer.

That's his Rookie Cards. Everything's in Canada. Yeah. Did he leave it with his two ounces a week? I think so back there oh you want more mookie blaylock well if you want to what do you want maybe you want i want mookie blaylock i want to feel close to mookie blaylock and hear jeremy smoke in class today so how can i do that well i'll go see the pearl jam tribute band mookie blaylock there it is who tours all

around the country they do they. They tour all around. And I read an article. They were like, hey, every time Pearl Jam comes out with a new album, that's a moron on our set list. Yeah, because you didn't fucking write it. Can you imagine that? Somebody else's work.

Hey, every time Bill Burr does a new fucking special, I get another hour of material. Wouldn't that be amazing? It's great. Every time Chappelle comes out with something hilarious, I get more material. No, you don't do that. Write your own shit, guys. Come on. Every timelle comes out with something hilarious i get more no you don't do that write your own shit guys come on every time they come out with more music they said so we got

we get our more of our of our set list on our whole deal there so that my friends is mookie blaylock and uh that's a fucking is he still is he out he's not in jail anymore right uh no he's not in jail anymore he's right now he's out and he's dealing with his 15 years of no driving that's it man there's gonna be a warrant for him so he's gotta fuck there's no way that guy's not gonna fuck this up yeah man i mean i may be killing someone would genuinely but i mean after he killed someone he didn't learn shit he was still going to strip club and letting his drunk friends drive but this is gonna go bad this could be there could be more to this story we might have a part two on this one who the shit knows so uh well stay tuned you never know sometime in the next

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to put out. So we'll do that. Without further ado, damn it, four years in the making, I would like to hear the names of the people who have kept us going and are so wonderful for us. Jimmy, please hit me with them this week's executive producers are alexander hale ben eby or abby i don't know happy birthday buddy happy birthday mark june wells that guy that guy is a fucking hero man and he uh we love mark june runs uh sativing sativum consulting group uh he's just a fucking great guy thank Thank you so much, Mark. So his consulting will keep you awake.

It will. Christy Miller, Chelsea Morgan, Reagan Shalkley, Talena Jensen, Tanya Volanek, Lori Ziegler, Matt Kleeman, Carol Braun, Carrie Clark, Karen Travels, Chan Davis and Elena celebrating two years together. Ebony Courtier is going through it, man. She's having a tough run. Hang in there. Hang in there, young lady there hang in there young lady everything will get better uh jordan bennett and uh eric no yeah eric kola camp thank you guys so much and really this week especially uh we had a

a run of luck uh that that happens in in this kind of business and you guys really are cool for to us thank you you guys are who we'd rather answer to so we feel like you're part of our family thank you for that thank you so much for reaching out and doing uh everything that you did kate graham uh other uh other producers this week are kate graham zo uh zoe graham andrea samples or andrea douglas harris kelly snap michael warwick rachel peterson janice hill sarah surage dylan irish amanda knight scott mcdonald brendan ables jessica christensen joshua austin yes uh jesse hartman kimberly barboni borboni uh roll today i know i was just thinking the same

thing how the fuck am i doing this suzanna platt ashley vo albert albert muller lisa edwards munch sanga's son uh is having a birthday and he had a tough two years man the past two years for that kid have been fucking bananas rough hang in there munch i shouldn't have said the f word there don't say those words javon you're a good kid happy birthday listen to your dad and be good yes uh jude kendall herbert mead britney Hughes, Desiree Barnson, Liz Vasquez. Thank you so much, Liz. And thanks for the past couple of years, three years, four years. I think she's been around since the start, too.

Yeah. Your support has been fucking incredible. Thank you. Stephen Rood, yours as well, man. Mark Sharp, Kopee, Duchesne, James La Russa, Ramona Boswell, Eileen Kerrigan, no Harrison, Harrigan damn it, Robin Anderson, Toto Giacana Ryan Smoopsie poops a lot, no

Ryan Smoopsie poops quick that's what it is, he poops quick apparently, Aofi Leahy, I think, Aofi probably not Tara Jenkins, happy birthday Tess Devine. Nate Little.

Nathan Little. Mark Atherholt. Hans Dickel. Probably not. Cecilia Carter. Gary Howard. Again, another one. Thank you, Gary.

Peyton Meadows. Another. Thank you. Catherine Potter. Christina with no last name. Alex Eldridge. Danielle Doyle. Jared Knight.

Jeff Rash. Erica Geisler. Timothy Perkins. Carolol yeah carol what is that a real name edger no way is it karen what did i do emily van brita uh somebody at ke or kek clothing loves you and thinks you're wonderful and said all these nice words about you and then didn't say their name so So I have no fucking idea who that is, Emily. You're great. It turns out you're an amazing woman, so happy Valentine's Day. Leon Wegman, Garcia A. Kane. Why did I put in a space?

That's a last name. I put Garcia A. Kane, and that's not right. I'm sure of it. James Snell, Trent Ellis, Julia Hayza, Jenny Arnold, Ann Loading, Chris Crowe donated both ways. Thanks, Chris. Banjo Dope, Matt Phillips, Scott Davidson, Katrina Wilcox, Vittoria Gabay, Stephen Pacht. He donated twice both ways.

Yeah, thank you. Peach Pacht, Zach with no last name, James Lipton, probably not, right? Tell me, what's your biggest fear? What is your favorite word? What is your favorite curse word? Matthew Kroll, Robert Willis, Harrison Albert, Neon Cheon, Tia Jones, Travis Ezell, Lisa, or is that Lisa? Lisa Lubert, Heidi with no last name, Morgan with no last name, Kimberly Rice, Ariel Ezell, Lisa, or is that Lisa? Lisa Lubert. Heidi with no last name.

Morgan with no last name. Kimberly Rice. Ariel Teague. Leah Levita. Ezell, by the way, thanks for being a cool Mormon. Ezell's a Mormon name. Is that it? Is it? Thanks, brother.

You know you're the coolest person in your fucking family. I appreciate it. Vincent. Peter. Is that Peter? A-let, I think. Elizabeth Kelly. Zach.

No, Rachel. I almost said Zach-le. That is not Zach-le. That's for sure. Rachel Speedle. Jeannie Ashley. Jordan Gooch. Probably not, right?

Nobody's last name is Gooch. Maybe it is. Different strokes. Jan Peckenbacher. Pecken-renner. Peck-brenner. Okay, it's all right on back. All full circle. I'm an idiot.

Jose Sanchez, Aaron McCarty, Stephanie Tuba, Kyle Bailey, Karen Flage, Laura Loringroff, Hale or Haley Matinenen? Oh, this is that fucking tough one. Matinenen is not right. Candice Blaylock? Oh, look, we got one. Hey! Emily Cole, Nick is not right candace blaylock oh look uh we got one emily cole nick van getzel a blay guestel uh shit jennifer hughes kathy simon simmons britney thornton jennifer hughes i said alexander barker baker ah andrew x line i was doing so great don mayfurth uh running out of gas mallory rutrow no rut roski rut skoski you got rut row out of what skoski hell is wrong with you

sandy with no last name meg stampkey uh gary thompson savory almost said slavery it's spelled that way uh emily sila siloa uh jorge l Angela Ansman, Matt Ligon, Octavia with no last name, probably Spencer, Alex Olson, Mackenzie Bolin, Lauren Hecker, Samantha, no, Sana, Sana Puri, Mandy Peterson, Tim Schleierker, Schlicker. Jimmy had five shots between his last name and that one. Jennifer Wild, Cynthia Takajasi, Jenny, no, Terry, sorry, Terry. sorry terry terry henderson melissa mac nick mendini medini mendini uh johnis johnis johnis dominic tim tim heath or heath heath jason stillwell uh justin janish no rebecca j rebecca anderson errol lobo michelle orozco alden harris uh colleen vigas probably uh dr gregors evo jazonis this is fucking brutal now heather toms congratulations on making great shoes glenn montarosa ron d is it ronda ronda campanello jen johns no jennifer jones carrie sharon carrie gage kevin coffee melissa day

home stretch god damn it by the way we forgot joe and carrie in portland yes sorry in the beginning yeah they've been amazing to us for fucking four years yeah we love their goddamn house we love them you're amazing thank you guys that was a big miss on our part we big swing and a miss yeah schmook mcboob kyle carson caitlin pruner prumer uh tristan natalie jen bateman uh Shanna Colbert, Jess Test Stoops, Crystal with no last name, Colin DeVitch, no, Udovich, Colleen DeVitch, Colleen Udovich, Phil Wall, Jamie Havel, Chris Crowe. Again, the guy donated both ways.

Thank you. Adam Slade-Bennett, Drew Deering, Jeremy Spalderick, Courtney Chaney, Jen Anderson, Melanie, no, Melanie. God damn it. Melanie? Melanie? What? Melanie's not a first name. No, it's not. Melanie Somerville. rick courtney cheney jen anderson melanie no melanie god damn it melanie melanie what he's not a person no it's not melanie somerville melissa chai jalezia romero mccabe and i'm dragging into the finish line with lindsey hand you guys are honestly fucking amazing

thank you everyone from the bottom of our of our hearts we're we're blown away by every bit of support we've ever gotten from the first few people that we would you know we were embarrassed to even tell you follow us on twitter i guess uh we didn't know or you know check us out on facebook in the beginning and from those first few people who were like oh wow this is pretty cool i've always wanted to hear something with crime and sports and hey this is pretty funny and they would start tweeting about it you know our jay wedbetter and uhter and Mark Busby and guys like that in the beginning who are kind of the four horsemen, we call them,

Sean Banner and Manj Sanjan, all these guys. I know I'm leaving people out, but I apologize. We love you guys. That's the four. That's the four horsemen, but then we've added more. Oh, God, there's so many guys. There's so much more. We have Dana Grayson always has our back.

Andrew Bailey is one of our big guys. TJ Mack. TJ Mack. TJ Mack. We can't say enough about TJ. We love her to death. So many people. There's a million more. Jordan Bennett.

There's so many more of these people that have been supportive of us for so long. Amy in Denver. Amy in Denver. Yeah, Amy in Denver. There's so many guys. Amy Spicer. Yeah. See, we could do this all night because we remember these people because that's how much

they meant to us because these were people who, when we didn't know if we were doing this, if anybody gave a shit. They were like, hey, I give a shit. This is cool. Chrissy and Castaldi. Yeah, that kept us going, guys. Honestly, if you didn't tell us that, we didn't know anybody liked it. We might have quit. No clue, Talena Jensen.

Yeah, literally just a few people saying that. Yeah. Help. Every goddamn week. Thank you, guys. And just being unbelievable people. So we really appreciate it. Thank you for everything you do for us. Jimmy, what if they want to say something to you thank you

yell at you hit you with your their kevin willis dick how could they do it you can message me at wisman sucks whis man sucks on twitter instagram and snapchat and i really genuinely guys i appreciate it thank you where can they find you you can find me at jimmy p is funny or just copy and paste my name from the show description and save yourself some misspellings and frustration because you won't spell it right anyway if you're looking for me in other platforms but uh other than that i think that's about it four years wrapped up fucking amazing i can't believe it's been four years thank you honestly to everybody who's who's done that everyone who's come out and we said this i think from the very beginning of sitting next to the index card that says crime and sports Studios that we wrote mockingly when we did our first episode and stuck it

next to the table. We were like, haha, hilarious. But now it's actually true. You guys have made it happen. So I can say live from the Crime and Sports Studios, we will see you next week. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.