Crime in Sports - #202 - The Junkie Debating Society - The Obstinateness of Alan Wiggins

Episode Date: March 31, 2020

This week, we check out a nearly forgotten baseball player, who was once the catalyst behind a team that went to the World Series, but just a few short years later, he was out of the sport, all together. Why? Cocaine, and plenty of it. Also, he had quite the attitude, causing fights with everyone from friends, to teammates, to his team's manager. His post-baseball life was sad one, complete with a penthouse apartment, specifically for shooting heroin. This is a wild tale! Live your childhood sports dream, choke your team's manager, and do every drug you can get you hands on, in any way you can with Alan Wiggins!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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to watch shit for two hours i'm yelling and screaming a lot so check that out but never mind all that shit i mean we got we got a crazy story we need to get to here let's do this let's start it out right at the top uh i don't know if you've ever heard of this guy alan wiggins no he is baseball player oh um i figured baseball would be a good one for this week since this is opening week of baseball. So in my schedule, I have like, oh. This is happening. So this is happening. It's not happening, obviously.

So yeah, congrats, opening week of baseball. Here we go. Alan Anthony Wiggins. I would say cautionary tale would be just the biggest understatement of the century for old Alan Wiggins here. Man, talk about fucking it up. It's just one of those stories where you're like, oh, you dumb son of a bitch. It's sad, more sad than anything. And I will say this, by the way, because the John Cordick episode, we had a few people that were like, oh, that was sad, and they were bitching about it.

So you know what you got next week? A child molester. We had a few people that were like, oh, that was sad, and they were bitching about it. So you know what you got next week? A child molester. So I don't want to hear any bitching about anything being sad, or I will find the kid diddling this motherfucker in the world for next week for you to enjoy. So have that. That's retribution for acting sad.

So here we go. Alan Anthony Wiggins. Alan Wiggins. He is born February 17th, 1958. He's an L.A. guy. He's from he's from la his family's from la uh apparently moved to pasadena at a young age and that's where he grew up was in pasadena like right across from the rose from the rose bowl is where he grew up so he was uh very much sports were right away into and also when he was born, 58, he grew up in the sixties. He's playing like he plays sandlot ball through his whole childhood.

Like he's the sandlot is him. It's he's Benny the jet kind of, you can look at it that way. If Benny, the jets life turned out terribly, we don't know. Just went real. That's true.

They only showed him stealing home. That's it. What happens afterwards? He could have got arrested on the way home that night with a pocket full of cocaine. Gives a thumbs up to smalls in the booth. Free prostitutes. Fuckers and drive drunk. That's what I mean.

Who knows? That's what happened. So, Jesus Christ. Now, his daughter says that for him, he always said that race, and he told everybody, and his mother said, too, race was a big issue in Pasadena back then. Yeah. Pasadena is kind of a kind of a white air. Even now, it's pretty, pretty, pretty mild there. People have rose bushes.

It's the it's the L.A. equivalent of ranch dressing. That's that's what it is. It's this is the ranch section of Los Angeles. So he basically he said that they said that there's altadena and pasadena at the time and altadena was right north of pasadena and uh pasadena was all white and altadena was all black oh it was like yeah if any blacks uh you know black people would creep over the line the white people would freak the fuck out back then in the 60s i mean we're talking this is watts riots time and all that kind of shit la was really it was like the 60s and the 90s for la were really yeah you know a lot of

racial shit being set off black guys called it pasty dina yeah pasty dina go over there to pasty dina probably actually if any if there's anybody from altadena in the 60s please tell us if you called it pasty dina so uh they tried to get, you know, they were trying to integrate all of this. You know, the government actually was by putting kids in school together, you know, that lived near each other. And they're trying to get rid of segregation. But it was still lingering a lot. And people don't think of that shit in California.

California was segregated as balls back then it really was i mean it might not have been official in a lot of it but if you were black they wouldn't sell you a house in a certain neighborhood government mandated yeah it wasn't like people were doing it on their own wasn't like the south where they put a fucking sign up right saying how racist they were telling you to get the fuck out or in their own front yard saying how much they hated whoever whatever it wasn't like that but it was it was still there like in little league his he had he was on a segregated little league wild i mean that's crazy think about that that's no fun the kids are who they're kids they don't give a shit they'll play baseball whoever wants to play baseball with them

that's insane that's like you're really teaching some shit there like i know you'd like to play baseball with those kids but you can't because they're different because they're better than you going yeah you can't because they'll beat you though do you want to make the team or not timmy the white kid yeah the white dad telling us look listen trust me you want to be an all-star or do you want to be a bench warmer because uh this is how it's gonna work so uh yeah that's how it worked so they were uh let's segregate little league teams that's crazy uh now alan in seventh grade he meets his future wife in seventh grade seventh grade his future wife uh angie yeah and this is uh there were middle school sweethearts so i mean this is wow that's a and they stay stay together too i mean, this is wow. That's a and they stay together, too. I mean, really, this last of the course somehow through all of his bullshit.

She sticks with him. And yeah, it's it's wild. So they went to John Muir High School, which is where Jackie Robinson went to high school. No kidding. So that was a huge inspiration for him. He loved loved him some Jackie Robinson. And he was he wanted to be a baseball player. He wanted to be a second baseman like Jackie Robinson.

He wanted to be, you know, he was a be a second baseman like Jackie Robinson. He was a huge fan, obviously. And he was fast, too. He was a speedster, as we'll find out Wiggins is. He's insanely fast. So anybody, Maury Wills was a big hero of his. He was a big base dealer in the 60s. And yeah, he said that he actually stole a baseball card signed by Jackie Robinson from a kid one time. Oh my God.

Just because he wanted it so bad. He wanted Jackie Robinson's autograph and this kid... And then he taped it to his bicycle spokes like an idiot. Yeah, probably. Probably taped it.

And he was like, I got his autograph. Listen to it. Doesn't it sound good? It's heavier because it's got more ink. Yeah. Well, he said

he told his mom that the other kid was a white kid and the kid had money too. So he said the kid probably a white kid and he thought and the kid had money too so he said the kid probably had enough so he thought it was okay to take his jackie he's got multiples he literally said he thought that he would appreciate it more than this kid too since it was jackie robinson which hey you know what it worked for him it was a source of inspiration for him i don't know that the other kid went on to play shit so there you go we're not talking about that kid we don't even know his name yeah turns out it was john elway that would have been hilarious by the way

stole a baseball card from wayne gretzky yep wayne gretzky he went up to canada and took it right out of his right out of his snow covered hand yeah so uh but baseball was mean, in the 60s to baseball was still was still king. Football hadn't taken over yet as the number one sport. It was getting there. But television was still bringing football to the forefront. And baseball was still the big deal. And Jackie Robinson was from there. So where he was, baseball was the thing to do.

And it was popular among the white kids. And that's where he was in pasadena so uh he had a few friends growing up with him that he played with a certain group of kids here from little league all the way into high school and you know senior leagues and all that type of shit kind of had his regular guys a guy named warren hollier who was uh who was a pitcher six foot six to a big old shit. Big strapping dude here. He ended up getting a scholarship to Oral Roberts, and another guy named Lyle Breckenridge who went to Cal, and there's a guy named Wayne Stone who also went to Oral Roberts. So that's kind of the main.

These four guys all hang out through the years and play ball together and all that sort of thing. By the way, I have to say, a lot of some good background information from the L.A. Times here from 25 years ago, 30 years ago. But still good stuff. L.A. Times. The archives of it. That's right.

So I get to find them. So here we go. They all wanted to be professional baseball players. They played at a place called Brookside Park, which was right across from the Rose Bowl. They play in the shadow of the Rose Bowl. Literally. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And it was it was just a sandlot. That was their their, you know, Rose Bowl, literally. Yeah, it's pretty cool. But it was just a sandlot, though.

That was their diamond, basically. It doesn't exist today. Oh, no, I'm sure that's high-dollar real estate, I'm sure. If it's a parking lot, you don't get to play in there. No, no, no. These people are parking there for the Rose Bowl at $30 a head. Kids, get out of here. There's like $4,000 worth of you in this parking lot right now we gotta get rid of you sorry go

and if the rose bowl is not happening there's an event down there that is something popping off we need to we need to park cars here either way keep your little asses out of the goddamn sandlot so they said they would rake up rake up the infield to you know get all the shit out of it broken bottled yeah all that shit so just in case they had to fall for something uh they would build a pitching mound and push all the dirt together to to do a you know pitching mound and all that uh but so that's what they did there was all like it was overgrown with weeds and shit like there was like burrs and stuff all stuck in their clothes while they were doing it fucking yard work to play yeah you had to well it's like back home in new york if you wanted to play basketball in the winter you better bring your fucking shovel

you better get shoveling chief so by the time you start playing you're already exhausted because you just shoveled a giant piece of blacktop like this is great but yeah that's what you do his friend said here hollier he said quote we'd sit around and talk about pro ball what was going to happen how'd we do uh alan and i were best friends neither of us had a dad or much money we figured sports was our way out that's a lot of the kids around there felt the same way they've and to this day kids see sports as a way out if you come from a shit area yeah and uh and especially too if you're not you know academically spectacular it's not like it was back then where you could be you could be like a b plus student and go to usc back then now you you have to be like have a 4.8

grade point average extra to get yeah yeah and you know every kid's doing it it's crazy because you're competing with people from around the world whereas back then nobody from china went to usc in the 60s they just didn't so now fucking half of the country goes to USC or UCLA or, you know, you're competing with the world. That's probably vacation for kids from China, going to USC and being able to only work, I don't know, 13, 14 hours a day. It's good without their parents yelling at them, too. It's much better.

So this back then, though, was, you know, it was a different environment. Now, they said out of the group, Allen was just, he was the poorest of the group. Alan was really poor. He grew up tough, tough times. His friend said, quote, Alan probably had less than any of us, but he wasn't going to let that stop him. I remember once when he didn't have any shoes to wear, he wore these white Converse high tops tops and he didn't care who laughed at him this is on the field to play baseball he didn't have cleats so he he's rocking chucks he just wore chuck taylors because that's what he had and he probably looked ridiculous out there and all the

other kids probably had black all the cleats were black back then black cleats he's got high top sneakers on so uh he said they didn't care uh they said it didn't matter because no matter what shoes he was wearing, he could outrun. There's never anybody they saw beat him in a race. Even if he has no traction, he's going to win. They said literally bare feet, he's whooping someone's ass in cleats, the fastest guy you could find. Awesome. Everyone said that he knew he was going to play pro ball.

He had no doubt in his mind that pro ball was his thing. He would tell anyone that asked, i'm just i'm gonna be what are you gonna do when you grow up it wasn't like i'm gonna do this or that it was like well when i'm done playing baseball maybe whatever when i'm done with my hall of fame major league career we'll see from there it's great forethought well i mean you gotta have confidence yeah nobody that's i mean it sounds stupid but you have to have confidence like that to do anything if you're gonna step in to a situation like in a world series and hit a home run that'll never happen unless you have confidence so you have to have an overbearing confidence it's like fighter pilots they

they look for the ones who are not right in the head that's how they when they psychologically do they look for ones who are narcissists and who have like literally delusional delusions of grandeur of not not dying yeah like oh i won't die because i'm me i'm not the guy that's what they look for someone where you would like if that person applied for as a police officer they would go oh no no we're gonna we're gonna put a big x on that file that's a dangerous person here they go take a 40 million dollar jet throw up take that up in the air because you didn't fly that over a foreign country. Yeah, you're crazy enough to do it, motherfucker. Because other people go, isn't that dangerous?

That sounds dangerous. They're going to be shooting at me while I'm going over them? I don't think I like that idea very much. But that's what they look for. It's the way it is. I know a girl in high school that said that to a teacher. I don't have to know the answer to this. I'm going to marry an NBA player.

Did she really? And then she married Eddie House. So she married a marginal NBA player. But he made it he had money to the nba she's like i think he got a championship i'll take the best player that asu has to offer that's what i'll do i'm going to marry him and he'll he'll he'll average seven minutes a game for his career but he'll play he'll be on a team didn't't he go down to Miami or something? I think he won with the Celtics, but I think he was in... He's one of those guys that was on...

Everything. 11 teams. He's one of those guys. It's a different team every year. It's like Miami when LeBron was there, I think. I want to say. I think you're right. I'm pretty sure he did.

They went on a run in, I don't know, like a 14 or something like that. There's lots of pictures of guys celebrating with him around the perimeter, like with his arms up. On the bench. There's a lot of those, I think. With a towel on his shoulders. That's why he's not in the middle, because he had to come from the bench. So he's running over with his arms up.

In mid-stride with a towel. While like eight people celebrate in the middle, because he was on the end of the bench. He's throwing the towel away. The towel's flying out of one hand and a cup of gatorade's flying out of the other as he puts his hands up five guys with sweat streaming off them are very happy he's like he's excited he's pumping yeah we did it he's dry they're like we eddie listen i cheered for you over there you guys we did listen calm down. You know what, Eddie? Why don't you grab the guy behind you

sitting in those courtside seats because he was cheering just as loud. I heard him actually more than I heard you. So I'm going to go ahead. You averaged seven minutes, but not one in this game. Yeah, nothing here. Not when it counts. Eddie, garbage time house. That's perfect.

He's like the guy with like that's something off that he's like the ball boy and i and they let him play at the end of the season come on when it doesn't matter they're up or down by 25 they're like let eddie hurl up some threes let eddie chuck up some fucking three bricks where's your headband eddie it makes him feel good to just shoot he likes it it's fun for him so they just let him chuck he's a chucker let him chuck that's how it works for you i don't know it's funny too you never know who's going to take shrapnel in a crime and sports episode eddie house got it today because you would never think out of all people this guy has nothing to do with eddie house whatsoever a basketball a baseball different sport played 30 years before him nothing stayed not even from this nothing similar but no less who's

taking the abuse eddie house he took it on the chin today take that eddie house it's okay he had a towel around his neck so it didn't hurt it didn't hurt he's fine he's good we just yanked him by the towel his friend said quote alan knew he had superior talent i remember one day i was working and this was uh uh during high school he had a side job he said i remember one day i was working and he said to me you know something i'll never have to work a day in my life and he kind of laughed and he said quote you know what you know something he never did so there you go so uh no he should have as we'll talk about but uh he knew right away you know i'm never gonna have to do this stupid shit you're doing right here you know

how frustrated you are and you're looking checking the clock nope never hardest work i'm gonna do is make a sandlot i don't even own a watch i just know like i have show up at the park and then i leave when it's over i don't even know what's up uh so his brother alan's brother said quote i remember those guys alan and all his friends those guys would actually sit around and practice signing autographs that's that's why when you look at his signature it's always so good he's been practicing imagine that he had been practicing his autograph from a child because he was he was i know a guy who was an actor who always did that he practiced his honor really yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Practiced it always. I feel so bad

anytime anybody asks us for anything like that. I'm like, I'm going to make this awful now. I'm going to scribble a thing with a big loop. I'm going to ruin whatever it is that you have.

Why would you want that? People ask us to say, yeah, because my name's Long, so you're getting like a big swoopy thing and like a couple of scribbles and that's pretty much... I write in all capitals

so I just squiggle some yeah jimmy just fucking holds the holds it in his hand like the full hand on the marker that's exactly i'm doing the physical action going describe what i'm doing here that and he just does like somebody coloring with a fat crayon and his tongue sticking out of his mouth it moves from the left corner to the right one. There it is. That's fucking hilarious. So Allen ends up going to Pasadena City College is where he goes to college to try to up his status a little bit to get drafted into the baseballs, what he's looking to do here. So he plays a little bit for Pasadena City College. Now, he's a switch hitter with ungodly speed.

So he is trying to be, and back in the day, this was always going to be valuable, but a switch hitting leadoff guy with speed is like, that was the prototype back then. You were looking at like your Mickey Rivers type guys. Well, I don't think he was a switch hitter. But guys like that in the 70s were were really hot i mean the dodgers had guys like that the yankees had guys like that all these good teams had a who's the yankees second

baseman the little guy that did that which one uh i don't know most recent uh world series champion teams uh the little uh i don't know his goddamn name he's the leadoff hitter shit sounded like soriano but it wasn't no wait was it soriano no alfonso soriano i think that's who it is yeah yeah we had to move him to left field okay second base on second base right for a minute it wasn't so good yeah but he was was he a switch hitting fast guy no no he was he was fast as fuck yeah he was a right-handed okay power guy all right that just happened to be he was a beast in my head i see him switching no no he's a righty no he's a he was a beast though because he he was, he was so fast.

He had so much pop in his back. Right. Skinny shit. Moved him out to the outfield. He was a terrible second base. I got to wonder, though, he got ruined because he came up in the early 2001 as a shortstop in the Yankee system. So basically, your chance of ever playing ever is zero.

It's over. You're done. Unless you've got more longevity yeah unless you want to last out jeter's 10-year contract that he literally just signed the year before and he'll probably get five years after that that's the thing so they didn't know what the fuck to do with him so he wasn't going to play shortstop they tried second and then they just traded him to texas and that's right that's where he went, yeah. So he goes there. He's a switch hitter. January 11, 1977. This is the amateur draft in baseball, but the June draft is the big draft.

And then they have kind of a B draft in January. And that's where he is drafted here. And he's drafted. He's selected number eight overall. That's great. Which is tremendous. And in this draft here, Dave Rigetti goes in this draft as well, the longtime Yankee and giant reliever, great pitcher.

A couple guys like that. But otherwise, it's not the main draft. So it's not really, it's a lot of community college guys going in this draft. Best of the shit. Best of the other guys that slip through the cracks, not the kind of highly the other guys that slip through the cracks not the kind of highly touted guys here so he is selected by the angels actually great yeah he's selected by which is great for him because they play in anaheim so he's fucking thrilled about that um

you know awesome ride the bus to work that's i mean he's great he's staying home he loves it so uh 1977 he goes up and plays for Idaho Falls of the Pioneer League. Boy, oh boy. That sounds like something, huh? That area. LA, all your life. Right. And then you land there, and they tell you you made it.

What? I thought Pasadena was white. Right. Jesus Christ. At least there's no militia there. What the fuck is happening? Also, making it and then landing there feels like a kick in the dick in idaho falls in 1977 so think about that that's i mean you now you go oh jeez i don't go to idaho falls i've been

there at 77 oh boy yeah think about 30 years earlier whoa god damn he plays in 63 games here has 225 at bats does pretty well 271 average 420 on base percentage which is tremendous 25 stolen bases wow that's terrific uh 54 walks only 29 strikeouts i mean that's he's doing well those are all the all the factors you want to see in a guy especially a leadoff hitter he walks more than he strikes out steals bases high on base percentage average over 270 for a leadoff guy fucking a not too shabby only one home run but you don't want that out of him you got a guy three spaces down for that yeah you don't care about they get on base so let the other guy hit the home run uh 1978 he plays for

quad city uh quad city in the midwestern league oh yikes that's almost as bad as iowa where the hell is quad cities it's or idaho i think that's uh what i to iowa is it quad cities i, that's almost as bad as Iowa. Where the hell is Quad Cities? Idaho. I think that's Iowa, isn't it? Quad Cities? I think that's Iowa. I imagine. I'm pretty sure it is. Somewhere that's got some fucking cities nearby. There's four small cities.

Quad Cities is really... I get it. It's pretty optimistic. We'll put it that way. It should be Quad Towns. Quad other places. Quad small places. Wasn't that Quad City DJs? Wasn't that a that a band yeah that was uh were they from there they had one of those popular yeah like who let the dogs

out type songs but not who let the dogs out they had one some were they the uh hey mr dj come on ride the train oh is that is that them it might not be them i don't know it might be them it's one of those like anthemy songs they play at sporting events that like yeah your grandmother knows and shit yeah some chick got fingered too against her will exactly behind a bar but your grandmother thinks those black guys aren't that threatening they're like i like dogs i have dogs who did let the dogs out where are they where are they why is the gate open finally questions i'd like answered from rappers see this is the problem it's who stole my coke or who stuck up my car not this this is something who did let the dogs out

i ride the train all the time i grew up riding a train it was wonderful me and my family used to summer a great time we take a train all the way to kansas up riding a train. It was wonderful. Me and my family used to summer. We had a great time. We'd take a train all the way to Kansas every year and it was beautiful. We'd see the fields while they were blooming with all the spring flowers. It was wonderful. I like these young men. If only we had a song to seal that memory in our brain. Here we go.

Yay. Come on, ride the train. Yes. And ride it. And ride it. Choo-choo. Unbelievable. Sorry, Quad City. I'm sure you guys made a shitload of money. I'm sure.

I hope so. If you did, I hope you saved it. Fingers crossed, fuckers. That's the type of thing they're still doing that, too. They still have to go to county fairs and some casino in the middle of fucking Montana. On a throwback night it's them they're opening for sir mix a lot and they're like this sucks rolling their eyes yeah like i have to ride it choo choo yeah but they don't have like the backup singers anymore because

that costs money so they're dead they're just like yeah the smallest guy in the group is like you're the choo choo motherfucker now they're like what choo choo say're the choo-choo motherfucker now. They're like, what? Choo-choo. Say choo-choo, motherfucker. Your voice is the highest. All right, I guess so. You know what to say. Choo-choo. There you go. You be the girls. What?

I don't want to be the girls. You be the girls. Tough shit. Wow. People at Eddie House and the Quad City DJs taking it hard tonight. Which also sounds like a garage band yeah eddie house in the quad city that sounds like who's up to who's spinning tonight oh it's eddie house in the quad city oh shit for real oh we're gonna party then that's cool i'm gonna stay we were gonna hit

another club i didn't know that eddie house in the quad cities were here all right now they're here i'm in man i'm gonna hang out for a while then because they get that group you know how it goes man jesus christ this is what happens when we're fucking in the house for too long this is what happens when they when i can't take i start losing my mind and uh we need anger and airplanes and it's delayed air traffic and shit like that we get silly rolling otherwise oh no this is eddie house gets kicked in the dick sometimes. Yeah, sometimes it's got to be Eddie House. Whether it's Eddie House or whether it's a deserving target that we've actually encountered,

I think it's all good. They just want to hear us mad at somebody. For the Quad City DJs here, I assume he took the train all the way from Idaho Falls. He plays in 49 games this year. Only hits.201. This is A ball.

The last one was rookie ball. This is A. Only hits.201, but he has 26 stolen bases, which is pretty good. He still walks more than he strikes out, but the average

is a little bit of an issue for them. They're concerned about that. .341 on base percentage, though, so he's still getting on base. Problem is, midway through the season,

when he's starting to come around, because he started out very slowly and then started to... He's a slow starter. A lot of leadoff hitters are slow starters for some reason. I don't know why. But he's a slow starter, so as he was starting to get into it, he gets in a physical fight with one of his coaches. The coach.

Yeah, which when you're 20 years old playing A-ball... I can see it happening. You can't do it, though. And especially if you're not a real... If they didn't pay you a fuckload in a signing bonus, they'll just cut you. They don't care. Just fuck you.

What do they give a shit? You just do what you're told. They have nothing invested in you. And back then, even, every team had like 18 farms. They don't even know who you are. You're on the... Who the fuck is that guy in A-ball? The actual Angels have never heard of you no work harder the actual angels know their number one

draft pick that's who they that's who they know everybody else is like yeah one scout said he was pretty good and they picked him up that one draft pick is like oh that's our guy that first rounder at the end of the week don't get a report and know how he's doing exactly otherwise a frantic phone call from a coach uh with an ice pack on his eye yeah say i just got i just got i don't know he's screaming about eddie house and i don't know what the fuck happened he just beat my ass it's crazy so uh yeah he's he's june 10th 1978 the angels release him oh no there you go there are your dreams asshole oh that's gotta sting yeah i would say now you're 20 and especially home, so it's like you've got to come all the way home from Iowa now

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from the mets and signed by the yankees yeah in the late 90s it's unbelievable sure no problem what i don't want to be in fourth place anyway, so this doesn't hurt that bad. So he's psyched about it. And 79, he signs with the Dodgers, like we said here. And he plays at Clinton, which I don't know where that is, but it's in the Midwestern

League in A-ball that year. Plays in 95 games, has 296 at-bats, and he hits.257, and he has 43 steals this year, though, which is a big deal. That's a lot. They're looking at him as being a speedster. Still only on no home runs this year, but it doesn't matter.

Who cares? He's doing well. So, 79, he's doing great. 1980, he plays for Lodi in the California League. Yeah. That sounds... That's a tough place to be. At least close to home, though.

Yeah. I mean, better than... That's ugly, though. Better than Midwest if you're from LA. It is ugly. You don't want to be there. It's just desert. But he plays 135 games this year for them.

This is serious. And this is A-ball, too. But it's a long... They have short season A-ball and long season A-ball. This is full season A ball. He has 513 at-bats, hits.288,.390 on base percentage, steals 120 steals. That's our guy. 120.

That's getting everyone's attention in New York. I don't care if you're an A ball. Everyone in that organization knows who the fuck you are if you stole 120 bases. That's like hitting 45 home runs somewhere. Everyone go, who's that kid who hit 45 home runs let's talk about him it's awesome so 120 steals is insane that's ricky henderson level thievery that's fucking wild right so uh tommy lasorda the manager and future uh slim fest enthusiast there. He called Allen, after spring training, the fastest man on two legs. Lasorda said that. Lasorda said that.

That's awesome. He's seen a few ballplayers in his day, and he says, fastest man on two legs right there. That's impressive. So the Dodgers, you would think he's their future leadoff hitter, but instead they leave him unprotected in the free agent draft really yeah they leave him it's the rule five draft uh they leave him unprotected and everyone's like why uh now the dodgers said quote it was known in our organization that he had a problem uh that he had a problem there and the dodgers didn't want any part of it

and he's got different well there's anger and there's there's other things uh one of them is that he was arrested for possession of marijuana okay and they didn't want any part of the whole really yeah they thought he had other drug problems they were suspicious of anyway violent to that coach and now he's weed and i think 120 steals you'd probably want to work with a guy yeah unless he gets caught with like a car full of a trunk full of crack i think you'd probably want to work with him it's a lot of steals i don't know for my money though if i'm betting on a guy i'm gambling harder on the guy that does all that and he smokes weed yeah imagine if he doesn't take the weed out of him yeah he's

really good to get that away from him no shit shit. That's awesome. Not bad. So December 8th, 1980, it's basically the Rule 5 draft. So he's drafted by, could it get any easier for this guy? Guess where he's drafted by? New York. San Diego. Just running up and down the West Coast? Just right there, a couple hours down that way, no problem, still warm. Who the fuck gets drafted by the, that's insanity.

All the sunny West Coast teams. Who doesn't want fuck gets drafted by the... That's insanity. All the sunny West Coast teams. Who doesn't want to get drafted by these three teams? He's going to retire his last three years with the Giants? Is that what's going to happen? He's going to coach Oakland after that. Head on up the coast a bit and put on a hoodie.

That's it. Just sit there in the dugout. Blunt a love. Chilly tonight, huh? Chomp down some sunflower seeds. What the fuck? So December 8th, 1980, that's the Rule 5 draft where he is drafted by the Padres from the Dodgers. And from there, it's also right around this time where he marries Angie, his junior high school sweetheart. Sure. May as well. Yeah.

I mean, life's going pretty well for him fine he fucks up and he keeps that's when you know you're talented yeah when you haven't even played in the majors yet you've never played past a ball right and they're still willing people are willing to take chances on you even though you're fucking up then he's literally fucking upwards fucking upwards fucking up this reminds me of otis nixon actually if you remember otis nixon got busted for coke like multiple times while he was in the minor leagues, and he'd get promoted the next year. He just got busted for coke.

Like yesterday. What do you expect? Do you expect him to think that he shouldn't do coke? He literally rewarded him. Oh, you're arrested? By the way, you're up to AAA next year. Enjoy. Fucking stupid.

So 1981, he goes up to the San Diego Padres here. And the Padres, they're not that good here. They finished sixth in the division. It's been a while since they've been anything that matters. Yeah, they weren't good at all until 84. It was ugly for them. Yeah, this time was bad. This is pre-Tony Gwynn and all that sort of thing.

So yeah, 81 Padres is up there. They said that all of the players, by the way, his buddies, the four of the crew that he grew up with there, all four of them were drafted, but Wiggins was the only one who made it past AA. Really? So he made it to the majors. He's the only one who makes it to the majors. Yeah, so it was cool.

So his friends, they were fucking psyched for him. Like, well, one of us made it to the majors. He's the only one who makes it to the majors. Yeah. So it was cool. So his friends, they were fucking psyched for him. Like, well, one of us made it anyway. They said, the Stone guy said, quote, when we saw him, we'd always pick his brain, wanting to know how he made it. He'd tell us we could all make it, you know, making us feel good. You know, you guys can do it too. It's like, we're not the fastest man on two legs. Right.

Which is a stupid thing. The fastest man on two legs right so which is a stupid thing the fastest man on two is there a man with three legs that's faster is that maybe trying to tell us i bet a guy with three legs be pretty fast i don't know about that but i do know for sure that a man with one leg is not going to beat him no no not at all no unless there's a wheel on it it's not going to work and the motor propulsion device involved here so uh yeah he's gonna make his major league debut in 81 but he only plays 15 games because it's a september call up they call people up at the end of the season so he plays in you know where their minor league was their triple a where he got to play back then i mean they switch all the time hawaii how blessed is this guy somewhere better

they're like where's better than san diego weather-wise where's well there's only one place in the world we better put our triple a team there like what how the fuck dare you you don't even play in the majors yet you get to live in hawaii for fucking six months we would have done in fiji but it was just a little too far yeah he's like it's a little more moist than hawaii the fuck out of here. Hawaii. Jesus Christ. He plays 133 games in Hawaii. Hits.302 because he's just thrilled with his life. Because he's happy as fuck.

He's just thrilled. He's loving life. 73 stolen bases. Jesus. This is a terrific time for him. It's got to be wonderful. He's feeling good. I can't imagine.

He's eating poi, whatever the shit that is i don't know those pigs that they roast that look delicious yeah they look good crispy skin and actual is it pronounced poke or pokey it's pokey all right yeah yeah tons of that shit man so much of that shit i was so mad i was watching uh this is way off the subject but once again you never know who's gonna catch some shrapnel. We were watching one of the 90 Day Fiance shows because I like to yell at idiots. Yeah. And we're watching one.

It's one of the ones where the Americans go over there to wherever the fuck. To their place. To their place first. I think it's before the 90 days, right? So this idiot, this guy's a fucking dildo, okay? He's just a dipshit. He's like, I don't know. He bought an rv and

like moved into an rv park he's gonna try to move some girl from the philippines over to his rv oh jesus dirtbag okay so this fucking guy goes over there god the arrogance of america i know wouldn't you rather live in a motor fucking mobile home when they get not just any mobile home but in a mobile home amongst other people oh just live in a bunch of old people right there it's and i think it's like rural nevada he lived in like outside of vegas somewhere like some place called basically where cousin eddie was living in vegas vacation that's that's his neighbor he can wave to cousin eddie plays with a single syllable town name yeah that's so long story short he goes over there and turns out

her place was even worse than the rv really they were their family was in the philippines and they were extremely extremely extremely poor the whole family and they made for him because they you know he's a guest from another country that was coming yeah so they made this feast for him that was this pig that is the the girl said the last time they'd had it was when she was a kid because it's so expensive and they know they can't afford it. They made like their once a decade feast for this fucking guy to try to impress him. Right. Who knows what they had to do to get this pig?

And they roasted it and it looked beautiful. And the dad was chopping it up and said he roasted it for six hours and he took him forever to chop it up. And the guy wouldn't eat it. What? He wouldn't eat it. He's like, I don't like it. I don't want to eat that.

It's weird. You asshole. He says, I don't want to get sick. And they were like, are you out of your fucking mind? These fucking people have nothing and they gave you a pig and you're going to sit here

and fucking scoff at it? Fuck you, dude. I was screaming and throwing shit at the TV. It was bad stuff. There's no sports. I have to yell at somebody to do something. I would be furious as that father. He was just sitting there dumbfounded.

The guy had a... It was either this or fruit fly soup, you motherfucker. Yeah, he's like, 15 years it's been since we've had this. I've worked all day. Oh, they hated him. It was great. Fucking great. And then he ended up marrying her over in the RV park. Really? at the gazebo god jesus it was sad jimmy he got some like

fucking home depot plants with the you know the hangar still attached to him and like lined the fucking thing with it wow it was sorry ass oh it's nevada yeah it was not good man something terrible this girl's like the philippines are looking better every day. Yeah. I'm sure. Instead, I'm out here in Sheeps Crossing, Nevada. The worst. Fucking elk snot Nevada. So, yeah, he plays in Hawaii here. He plays, he's a second baseman, and he plays in the infield for his whole minor league

career, except for in Hawaii when they move him to the outfield for some reason. So that's the only thing there. Problem is, Jimmy's dropping shit. You lousy son of a bitch. That was like Eddie House shooting a three-pointer, basically. It was the same. Made the same climb. Yeah, that was a brick is what it sounded like.

So that's the sound of a three-pointer from Eddie House. So during the 1981 season, he's arrested again uh this time again for possession of marijuana so i mean obviously i don't give a shit if you're smoking weed and smoke all the weed you want but this is twice in two years he's been arrested for possession of marijuana his job kind of frowns on that sort of shit so maybe not the best idea for you dude not that i'm judging you but but I mean, what the fuck? When your dream frowns upon it. It's not just your job.

It's the dream job that he wanted. And especially if you're him who has like, you know, he's on like his third chance already. I mean, he hasn't done anything. He's already on his third team. Right. I mean, that's weird for a guy who's 21. Granted, he doesn't feel that way because he's been blessed with Hawaii.

He's been blessed with all these wonderful teams. Now, the Padres' farm director, Tom Romanesco, the silver-haired, middle-aged Padre, he says, quote, We didn't think it was anything problematic of a thing. He said, We just thought it was a social thing. I grew up in Wisconsin. You don't think I drink beer? He was caught by the police, so we just hit it was a social thing i grew up in wisconsin you don't think i drink beer he was caught by the police so we just hit it so they just fucking hit it there's no

articles that say this this came out later like that's hilarious yeah he's like i mean we just hit it fucking there is a difference between those two sir one is illegal and one is not that's the problem for if you're getting arrested for it but they were like i mean he's from fucking la people's won't we know i am from wisconsin if cops could pull could arrest you for drinking beer i'd probably get arrested a couple times i think is what he was getting smoking that wisconsin beer in la you know it's good shit there so this team here uh this is ozzy smith as a young guy is on this team he's the shortstop before he goes to st louis later on and you know makes his career there obviously he's amazing

he's be the wizard for christ's sake terry kennedy's the catcher on this team he only plays 15 games for the padres but he hits 357 in those 15 games steals a couple of bases not bad has a daughter really and his wife has to have a daughter named cassandra in 1981 so there you go life is good yeah he's a major leaguer with a wife and a daughter he's doing it not too fucking shabby uh 1982 he's plays uh for the padres he finishes the padres finish 81 and 81 that year yeah right up the middle just very mediocre and uh this is tony gwynn's rookie year 22 year old tony gwynwynn is up in late September here for a call-up. So it's wild.

Is that a svelte, Tony Gwynn? This is a thin Tony Gwynn. Tony thin. Tony thin. Tony had, like, speed back then. He was known as, like, a rangy outfielder. Oh, that's going to go wrong. Later on, he just looked like a guy who you pulled out of a cubicle

and were like, put this jersey on. He's like, really? I don't know if I – I just had lunch. Like, I'm a little – I'm gassy. And they're like put this jersey on he's like really i don't know if i i just had lunch like i'm a little i'm gassy and they're like that's fine just stand out in right field hit 380 and stand in right field don't worry about it just push your belly behind that bat dude nobody has looked worse and hit better than him besides babe ruth maybe is the only guy who's like but kirby pocket didn't get gross until after. Yeah, Kirby wasn't fat when he played. He was just built like a firefly.

It was all shoulders. His calves were the size of a normal person's thigh. He was just a thick dude, because he was short, too. But fucking, no. There's some bad-looking people here. There was another twin

that looked that way, too. Kirby Puckett. There was a few in Minnesota. Ken Herbeck was a big fucker but he was like a big stocky son of a bitch there but i mean it was tony gwynn was one of the fatter guys like just he's just all belly right he just looks like a guy who just hasn't been out of the house in like eight nine months he's mauve on mauve on even was just a thick dude who got big later on yeah but he was a big thick thick dude before that. Like, first couple years, his shoulders were just huge.

That was steroids. Clearly. Clearly. A lot. A lot of steroids. That's late 90s. Everyone was jacked up on that shit. So Gary Templeton's on this team.

Sixto Lescano, one of the best fucking names in baseball history. Wow. Sixto. It all rhymes. S-I-X-T-O. That that's awesome it's his real name he doesn't have six toes that wasn't a nickname uh so pretty cool shit there so he makes his transition to second base uh there and he's one of the best defensive uh uh he's really good at second base but in the outfield he was doing great because he's so speedy uh he uh he wins he leads the national

league second baseman with 381 put outs that year so does pretty well there he's good defensively this year he plays uh in 72 games for the padres he splits time uh he has 254 bets hits 256 not too shabby uh only 33 stolen bases but still that's a lot for for you know anybody really useful he's useful exactly uh so he's doing well the padres like what they see in him at 82 all right they really like him until july 21st 1982 when they like him a little bit less um this is a little embarrassing for him it's uh july 21st 82 in San Diego, 2.45 a.m. Oh, no. In a deserted industrial park.

Yeah. So obviously good things are happening here. Playing sandlot. Just getting loose. He's getting loose. Yeah. That's what he does. He does wind sprints in a sandlot at 2.45.

So clearly anyone in here is not up to, they're up to something that they don't want anyone to see them doing. That's why they're out there. They want the sun off of whatever this activity is. Yeah, they might as well be in a cave somewhere. That's what they're doing. So he's in his car there, and some police who are doing normal scans say, hmm, I wonder what the hell that person is doing in their car.

So as they pull up to him they see uh something fly out of the window of his car he threw something out of the window of his car they saw his hand go up and in the light they saw something shine off of it for a second and was gone uh what they end up finding is it's a little more than a gram of cocaine uh wrapped in tinfoil that he threw out the window so this is where this isn't weed anymore now we're talking about something different this isn't a it's a social thing it's not there's nothing social about being alone in a deserted industrial park in the middle of the night in san diego he was all by himself by himself this is weird this is he's pulled in there to do some lines probably

he probably met a guy there or he might have just met a guy to buy some guy took off now he's left alone to his own devices that's it or he just bought it and he pulled in there to do a line maybe or who the fuck knows what it is but so lonely whatever it is this isn't social you can't say it's a social thing he's just hanging out with his friend smoking a joint this is as non-social as you get this is how i get along with me yeah this is this is how i get through the day that's what this is this is ugly this is fucking ugly this is he does this just like eddie house throws up threes and misses that's how it works so he uh the the the padres are not happy about this at all uh the the uh wiggins put it that

he needs to address this matter in finality that's the way he put it when they asked him about it so from july from the next day july 22nd to actually that day july 21st because it was in the morning until september 19th he undergoes treatment at an orange county drug rehab center that's great misses like two months of the season but still he's you know proactive he's being proactive uh there the padres later would say back when Allen was arrested in 1982 for possession of cocaine, we told him we wanted him to go up to Orange County for treatment. We told him that we would continue to pay his salary and that we would stand by him, but that we would do this only one time.

If he got in trouble again, that was it. It's like, we'll give you one, Hey, you fucked up. You got a problem. You get some help. And if you clean it up, then great, which is good. I mean, you don't want people being thrown away for having a problem. But sending him to Orange County, it's almost like a vacation. Yeah, he's from L.A. It does not have a stigma of working. No, they should have sent him to like fucking you know new mexico

or some somewhere terrible where there's nothing to do but concentrate send him to las cruces yeah exactly with himself send him to where that guy's rv park was where he married that poor filipino girl send him there wherever that is that's exactly where he needs to go he should have a walkway lined with home depot plants that's amazing and then lock it lock it behind him so uh he says alan says uh quote through the efforts of my attorney my participation in this program qualified me for the state of california diversion program as a means of satisfying the charges against him so that's the other thing because he's a first-time offender for cocaine he's allowed to with rehab participate in this diversionary program, which kind of just makes it so he doesn't have anything.

Nothing criminal comes out of it. Handle this yourself. Don't come in front of me again. Exactly. The diversion program would erase the record of the arrest and booking after a two-year period if he doesn't have any trouble, any further arrests. Two years. So expunged off the record. That's great.

That's terrific. That probably doesn't exist today. Probably not not it sounds like it might be a good idea though i don't know so they might have they probably have different versions of doesn't sound like privatized prisons would want that law that law sounds like shit to them a lot of states have first time diversion programs yeah especially for drugs yeah basically if you complete a rehab i don't know if it's like that like your record record gets pretty amazing they have a lot of like uh you know not basically first time non-non-jail diversion some states yeah i'm sure in alabama if you're caught with a half gram of coke you're going you're doing hard labor you're breaking up rocks for 10 to 12 i'm sure but making little rocks out of it yeah yeah that's what you're breaking up rocks for 10 to 12 i'm sure but making little rocks out of it yeah yeah

that's what you're doing basically so uh uh the the commissioner also uh is said that uh wig the commissioner of the league of baseball said that wiggins is going to be placed on probation until he completes his drug rehab and all the diversion programs uh he uh they said this is the buoy kuhn who is the commissioner of baseball. He said during the term of his probation, monthly reports will be made to the commissioner's office and to the Padres detailing Wiggins' rehabilitation efforts. Wow. He also warned Wiggins publicly that any further future involvement in drugs will jeopardize his career completely.

So, yeah. He says that after he gets out of rehab for a month he says he's truly sorry um he didn't mean to do it yeah you know it just happens my bad man that's it uh buoy coon suspends him for 30 days without pay that's his league punishment for it and uh the padres vice president said that the uh suspicion was the suspension was for the was for the arrest not because he had a coke problem that's not why he was suspended so that's how that works uh he ends up he has to post two thousand dollars bail in the morning and he's you know freed it was a felony to begin with here so that's a kind of a big deal uh he immediately his agent told him to go to a drug

rehab center immediately that'll'll help his legal problems. And the Padres paid for all that shit, by the way. That's nice. Yeah, not too shabby. One of the teammates here said, or I'm sorry, one of the team officials of the Padres said, I think there were a number of very significant traumas in his personal life that very few people know about. in his personal life that very few people know about. It was one of the issues where he was depressed or preoccupied, and it was perceived as arrogance or aloofness.

At the time, he was carrying the weight of the world on his two shoulders, and no one knew. This time, he was sent to a drug rehabilitation center in Orange County, and Tony Gwynn said, I remember when that happened, he sat by me and started telling me about the rehab centers. It was like he was laughing about it. He was saying how they don't phase him. And he told me, quote, you can't rehab a guy in 28 days.

You just can't do it. No, he knew. He was like, yeah, that's fucking hilarious. They sent me there for 30 days thinking that was going to clean me up. He's like, funny, right? It can't phase me. They can't. Literally, it can't phase me.

He said, that's not what they're trying to do man they're trying to help you but this guy there's a problem with alan too is uh tony gwynn also said when he said that i knew sooner or later he'd relapse he said because obviously and it's tough man with this type of shit because he's a smart guy alan wiggins by the way we'll find out later on when he's on the orioles the The Orioles have a team psychologist for whatever purposes, and they gave everyone an IQ test, and he was second highest IQ of anyone besides Earl Weaver, the manager. Really?

Earl Weaver was the top. He's a genius. And this guy is the smartest player. He's the smartest player and smarter than any of the coaches but Earl Weaver. So he's a really smart guy. So the problem is if he was dumb, you could just be like, yeah, you go to rehab and dumb people will buy into shit a lot of times easier. But a smart person literally goes, yes, I know intellectually that I can't be rehabilitated

in 28 days. So this is fucking stupid. And his attitude isn't right. And I also, as a smart person, realize what they're trying to do. And they will not manipulate me because I'm better than them. That's the other thing that you have to. And he gets a lot of that. That that follows him through his whole career.

He's dangerous. His mouth gets him in trouble. And a lot of times it's even if he's right, he doesn't realize that it's better for him in the long run to not cause a scene or not be arrested or not do this line. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a matter of a guy who listen if you fucking don't have a lot when you come up as we know both of us do yeah you do have a bit of a chip on your shoulder with shit like that and and especially if you're not if you're half smart and you know you're surrounded you fucking know growing up you intellectualize the fact of what this it's not just well this is what people do you're like fuck other people have better and i have this and

this sucks i can do better you get a chip on your shoulder and you get that thing of well i pulled myself out of shit to be here so clearly not only am i smarter but i am also better yeah and more talented more blessed by god i'm certainly superior to you people. Superior, exactly. And it's understandable. You'd have to have that attitude to get to where he is. That's the thing. You can't have one without the other. But the bummer is not recognizing what you're superior at

and then also understanding that that superiority also comes with flaws and shortcomings. And those shortcomings are bringing you down, you fucking jerk. The thing is, learn how to play the margins. There's a lot of guys who learn how to play the margins barry bonds was kind of like that and he was a dick to everybody and everything but guess what he stuck around for 20 years and made himself a shit ton of money because he knew how to play the margins you know in the meantime that's what

happened i tried to get an autograph yeah good luck with that out the other door you fucking asshole good luck with that there's a bunch of kids standing here, you danglierian dick. He's a dick. I've heard very few good off-the-field things about Barry Bonds as far as his teammates go. Not a real well-loved guy. A dick just to be a dick is one of those guys. It felt like he enjoyed it. Yeah, he enjoyed it. As he ran down the other side of the field not looking at any of us. We like you.

You don't get it what the fuck apparently dusty baker took none of that shit by the way i hope so he said like the teammates would have to take it but rod told me he's a dusty baker didn't take that shit at all dusty was a big tough son of a bitch and he used to take barry in the office and said you'd hear fucking pictures falling off the wall and shit banging around and And then Barry would come out chasing. He'd come out being a nicer guy for a couple of days. Until the next one. We don't know what the fuck Dusty was doing in there. We don't know what Dusty broke.

Some shit. So 83, they also, the Padres, the 83 season, they also finish 81 and 81. So mediocre to the fucking nth degree here and uh this is kind of the same squad uh add kurt bavacqua the bubble gum blowing champion of the 70s there's a baseball card of him blowing a bubble bigger than his head i think you showed me that yeah they have that and also young kevin mcreynolds on this team future met later on really yeah so uh padres this year for him for alan he plays in 144 games has 503 at bats hits 276 360 on base percentage which is damn fine 65 steals which is great uh can't beat that shit at all i'm sorry 65 walks he has 66 steals there you go so not too shabby

for him it's a fine year fine first you know that's his first really full year he played 144 games and uh this was after rehab and everything he came off of that and the padres were impressed with him sure since then uh they said that in the off season he worked in conjunction with the san diego police department to uh and to do presentations uh for anti-drug programs to kids and uh and crime prevention to high schools and shit like that he'd go around and make speeches to the local high schools hey him and a couple cops would be there hey look at me i got busted for coke last year that's fucking stupid that was his his deal how cool is that to say in public though to kids yeah i got busted for coke it It was good, kids.

I'm not going to lie. Now, listen. There's a reason why people do it, understand? So this is why I'm telling you not to do it, because it's really good. I mean real good. You're going to feel better than you ever felt before. Now, don't do it, though. I don't want you to do it.

Picture your best day and multiply it by 10 and never do that. But never, ever do that. It's bad. It's super bad. Never have that. No, I did it and it was fun, but you should never do it. That's the thing.

I did it and I loved it. So that's fucking great. By the way, his family calls him Tony, which is weird. How did we get there? I don't know. No idea. What?

None of his names. I can't see from A to B. Tony. I don't know. No idea. None of his names. I can't see from A to B. Tony, I don't get it. So he said that later on he would acknowledge to his family and friends that he would sometimes be intentionally stubborn. Yeah. Just to see what the fuck, how people would react to it. He would just be difficult just to be difficult, just to see how people, he was curious to see how people would react, especially his teammates. He liked to fuck with

baseball players and see how they were so a lot of them were kind of comfortable yeah baseball too is one of those things if you read uh jim bouton's ball four and i highly recommend especially now you guys have time get the audible the audio version of it it's him reading it and uh it's fucking funny because he'll be telling a story he'll be like laughing while he's reading it because he remembers it and shit. That's great. He's a guy who's a little different than the other guys. Baseball's a meathead game.

Yeah. It is. I mean, I love to play baseball, but a lot of the guys who play it are meatheads. Sure. And like we've said with like a Lenny Dykstra saying, don't read, it'll hurt your eyes. That's encouraged. That's a guy who's going to make it because he's't you know he's only concerned about baseball that's the type of sport baseball is so i don't know it's it's one of those things where like jim bowden talks about he would you know talk to the teammates and they'd want he'd want to talk about bigger things and guys just didn't understand it or get it or

they're just kind of a meatheady thing and you're out of place in that if you're half smart so it's a machismo about that whole sport too yeah it's pretty impressive it's intense it's machismo and it's like and it carries over into retirement when they're done with the game with lenny claiming to be the best cunnilingus expert but you have to be that yeah if you're going to be lenny dykstra and walk on the edge and you know fucking swing for the fences and dive at the wall for the ball. I mean, you've got to also do that, too. That's what I mean. That's what nobody gets is that comes with the pro. You don't get that without that.

You just don't. You can't pick and choose. You can't pick and fucking choose. That's what I mean. If you want a guy who plays like that, off the field, he's not going to come off and be Mr. Contrite. It's just not the way it's going to work. I'm going to bury my face in puss.

Yeah. So then I'll be back later when i get out of this dumpster fuck man so but i mean yeah i don't i don't fault him for that's why he was a good player yeah so he would be intentionally stubborn and he liked to debate people and he liked he liked he was a smart guy and he liked to fucking show it and he liked to exercise his brain uh they said that he liked to talk a lot of shit with eric chow eric chow probably will have an episode at some point too eric chow yeah he's a padre pitcher uh he's a bit of a disaster chau uh no so show like show really it's chow yeah eric chow he uh he was on the same team lamar hoyt is on these teams we had an episode about there's a

lot of fucked up people on these teams eric chow had some drug issues here and uh eric chow is a hardcore conservative politically he's a member of the john birch society which is like if you don't know what that is that's like right of the right yeah that's people who are like well we could just burn the poor for heat right i mean if the, if the poor are cold, they have big families. Choose the two most useless members and burn them on the fire for warmth. What the fuck? That's kind of the John Birch Society there. It's a little, you know, outside the bounds.

So apparently very different from the political leanings of Alan Wiggins, who is a black guy from L.A. that grew up in the 60s who didn't like segregation and shit like that. So they're going to have a very different political. But didn't have a fucking thing. No, he didn't have a thing. He didn't even have cleats to play in. That's what I'm saying. So they're going to argue a lot. And he said a teammate said they would scream at each other for 20 minutes at a time in the fucking locker room.

Full volume. Teammates would like start to get in the middle to stop a fight and then wiggins would just stop out of nowhere and they'd shake hands and there's a wonderful discussion eric good job i'll see you next time literally they would just stop and go great discussion eric that's terrific there was just a they just both wanted to have a political debate but it had nothing to do with personal they weren't mad at each other personally about it they were just exercising everyone that could happen yeah now they would have stabbed each other that's not happening they would have fucking stabbed each other that's all over that fucking clubhouse so many weapons this would have been as soon as somebody brought up anything everyone about no no no somebody's

snapping one over their thigh and trying to stab the other we're not talking about that it would be a fucking problem especially in baseball because like all right in football you're gonna get uh it's politically it's probably it's pretty one-sided the locker room it's pretty it's yeah most of the black guys aren't real conservative it's gonna be a few and a lot of the white guys are you know siding with the black guys because they've you know played with them and they understand shit and then and they want to ring yeah and then they're like tom brady's over there going well i made a hundred million last year so i don't give a shit fuck all of you fuck all you fuck all you hoes he's just being biggie over here i made a hundred million last year and i donated 20 to trump that's yeah that's what i mean and we're

not taking any political stance we're just saying it's football. It's whatever. Basketball, it's like. Oh, boy. It's 100%. There might be one dude and he ain't opening his mouth. That's what I mean. He is far outnumbered.

Baseball is diverse. Baseball, you'll have like three black guys, eight Hispanic guys, ninepanic guys and 12 white guys and i mean in a room so it's just people from different countries that are like culture involved in that it's so much yeah so you get it's a different thing so to talk about politics in a baseball locker room could get ugly fast because you have no idea where people are coming from you'll have some guy who was like from cuba talk about how dare you say this and fucking communists start screaming about castro and then this guy will come out and you never fucking know who's going to be mad at what. Right.

So who knows? Tony Gwynn said it was like point counterpoint. Wigs just love that. I mean, wigs would say, what do you like better, Coke or Pepsi? He could care less. He just wanted an answer. And as soon as you said one thing, he'd take the other side and make you argue about it. Wow.

That's just how he did. Just like to debate debate but he'd respect you for putting up an argument he was testing your intellect basically let's see if you could mount an argument why do you like that well for what well then what about this and what about that he just fuck with you that's all he's uh yeah he loves debate team yeah he's he's uh he's awful he's as wu-tang described the inspected deck character. He's inspected deck. And just contrary for the sake of being contrary because he wants to see how smart you are. He's also fucking bored. Baseball's a lot of hurry up and wait.

And also, he might be just looking for learning another side of something, too. You know what I mean? Because there is a point to debating, and that is it there, is seeing the other perspective of somebody else. It's not just to argue your fucking point and get your whole fucking diatribe out and say, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. Now it is. Yeah.

That's what it's turned into. Debating, though, among a debate thing is, yeah, you're going to talk. The actual debate used to be to learn, and now it's to fucking insult somebody. One person talks, and then you listen, and then you respond, and then they respond then they respond to you and it's an interesting thing now it's i'll be louder right i'll be louder and uh say that i'm right more which is not even that'll make you understand that'll make you learn that'll make you learn now oh boy so they yeah they just weren't um it's he wanted to debate people he wanted to put up an argument he wanted to just fucking see what they had in them and like i said in baseball these guys

show up at fucking noon yeah for a seven o'clock it's just boring there's nothing to do hours you're sitting around a lot so i mean on traveling you're on a plane you're in your hotel yeah it's a lot of time to idle fucking time basically a lot of people couldn't figure him out uh that was the thing he just couldn't figure him out uh padre named tim flannery said i think alan was confused even his best friends never knew him i don't know if he was searching had a chip on his shoulder or what it was i don't agree with a lot of the things he did and i didn't like him much to be honest with you but we were on the same ball ball club and we respected one another he said people who don't play professional sports say you should know everything about a guy but we didn't know him who did maybe he didn't

want to play uh maybe he would maybe he didn't like playing maybe he didn't want success i don't know i've got a lot more questions than the weight is over so, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Bing! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything.

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Maybe he didn't want you to know. That's the other thing. He liked being a little bit of an enigma to people too that was that was it um i guess he had some marital problems he's got some problems at this point in time some marital problems uh there he never wanted a divorce though uh he they said that when anyone would suggest why don't you just get divorced he would get mad and be like how dare you basically he said he didn't have a father and he wasn't going to leave his kids no matter what he was going to be a father both parents are going to be in that house even if they killed each other

yeah they're going to die at home damn it so uh yeah i guess he he had a he was the type of guy that you know when you're an athlete you're very public and he so he wanted to draw a line between i have a private life yep that is not to be crossed and then there's a public life and that's all fine and then leave me the fuck alone at home which i respect that's totally fine um his mother at this point as well as mother carla who you know had raised him and no father around, she at this point develops Alzheimer's, which is a problem. It's the ugliest. It's the worst.

And she's pretty young for it, too. How old is she? It's just tragic. She's in her 50s. Oh, my God. It's absolutely tragic. I mean, that's horrible. And some of his friends say

they thought that triggered his cocaine dependency, but he's already in an industrial park at 2.30 in the morning. It's a thing. It's a thing well before this. His brother Donald said that that's bullshit also. They said, no way that that's what it is. He's not even in his 30s yet, though, right? No, no.

He was born in 58. Oh, boy. He's fucking 25 years old, man. This is terrible. He's, you know. So, yeah, they said that was a quick-moving Alzheimer's, too. born in 58 oh boy he's fucking 25 years old man this is terrible he's you know so uh yeah his they said that was uh and it was a bad it was a quick moving alzheimer's too it wasn't wasn't slow and everybody said his friend said he was completely devastated by this you know it was

his only parent yeah that's uh absolutely tony gwynn said quote when his mom kind of lost it that's when he started to lose it when his mom kind of lost it, that's when he started to lose it. When his mom kind of lost it? She could have said when his mom got ill or when his mom was diagnosed. When his mom got worse. You know, when his mom started getting loopy and pissing her pants and shit, that's when he started getting kind of fucking annoying. I don't know. He was kind of...

He's like, I don't know, my mom's wandering out shitting herself. You know how it goes, right? When that happened, he got a little pissy. When his mom forgot his name, that's when he remembered cocaine he said oh my name is cocaine so uh yeah he said that's when he started to lose it his mom was so proud of his accomplishments she was kind of like his life support system that started his whole slide so yeah this this is not good um a teammate or a friend of his one of his old friends said i hate to say it but it was like the straw that broke the camel's back i remember seeing her and she was so proud alan had made it

but she wasn't herself anymore now alan couldn't buy her a big beautiful house like he planned or a nice car because because what was she going to do with it with alzheimer's disease yeah i don't know she wouldn't even fucking know where to go spend that money on a nice place for her to go yeah or some people to yeah a nice nurse or something yeah a nice nursing home or build a fucking house and hire the nurse that's yeah absolutely so lord the okay he's not the most popular player obviously obviously not but he is still voted the padre's most valuable player for the 1983 season really absolutely because he gets on base he does all the little things and baseball players appreciate that and even if he's a dick he's valuable stats matter

that stats matter that he he sets the table man and a leadoff hitter that's willing to do that is well you know it's a big deal especially if he's putting pressure on a pitcher too he's helping the second guy who helps the third guy he takes a few pitches extra yeah that gets into the second guy if he takes a few yeah by yeah that gets into the second guy if he takes a few yeah by the time the cleanup guy comes that pitcher's pitched way too many he's pitched a lot of pitches there's somebody on base he's distracted by that now he's got to throw fast balls to keep wiggins on base which lets your power guy crack home runs so points on the board points on the board sir runs whenever 84 padres uh they finished-70, and this team goes all the way to the World Series.

Really? This is the team. Yeah, this is a very – Cubs fans are like, yeah, I know, motherfucker. They played the Cubs in the NLCS, and the Cubs were about to win it, and this is the Leon Durham ball goes through his legs. This is Buckner before Buckner. Oh, no. Two years before Buckner, exact same thing happened

where all Durham had to do was catch this ball and make it out, and the Cubs were going to the World Series in 84. Instead, it goes through his legs, and the Padres end up winning the series. And they wait until 2015? Yeah. 16? 17. 17.

They wait until 2017 to go back. Tough luck, guys. Bad stuff. Oh, that stings. So, 84, this year, though. The Padres, they lose the World Series to the Tigers 4-1. Kirk Gibson had a big home run here, too. So, that's a clutch guy there.

Now, the way this works out, this team has Steve Garvey on it now, Gary Templeton, Greg Nettles, the ex-Yankee sluggers on this team. So, Tony Gwynn's a starter this is a stack team yeah this isn't bad at all uh also july 19th 1984 middle of the season he has a son oh the son is born god damn wiggins allen jr you fucking know it's coming allen wiggins jr wait for a baby with the dick i gotta. He was like, I got to fuck this up. I'm going to mess this kid up if I can. I'll fuck them all up, damn it.

Don't give a shit. So this year, though, 158 games he plays in. He hits.258. He steals 70 bases. And he's a real catalyst for this team. He only hits three home runs, seven triples, though, which is pretty damn good. And in the postseason, in the NLCS, he hits 316. And in the World Series, he hits 364.

My word. I mean, he's doing his part. He's doing all he can. He's fucking cranking. He wants a ring. Yeah, that's it. And he's so valuable to the team. Their manager, Dick Williams, says, quote, I don't care what anybody says.

Alan Wiggins was absolutely the most valuable player in the national league in 1984 how about that not on the team in the national league you won't see an lmvp for him yeah that's how i mean as a manager you know it's valuable and you know his stats 258 isn't going to do it but fucking if you're the manager you know what's valuable right this is the guy that set our table for us and did everything uh this is he plays full-time second base this year as well he has 154 hits i mean 106 runs he scores and when wiggins is on base when tony guinn comes up to bat because he hits third uh tony guinn hit 412 when wiggins is on base is that right because it gets get some fastballs because if you throw tony

guinn a fastball he's gonna he's going yard hewynn a fastball, he's going to slap a single back at you. No problem. Just the way he is. Now, 1985 comes around. Before the 1985 season, the Padres want to reward Allen. Since he got busted, it's been three years, and he's been a you know hard-working guy sure you know valuable to them they sign a they sign him to a four-year contract worth three million dollars wow which in 85 was a lot of money fucking enormous deal he was one of the highest paid

players in baseball awesome that highest played paid second baseman by a long shot so doing very well here uh it's guaranteed money through 1988 so uh he had filed for arbitration because he was a restricted free agent and the padre said you know what let's not do it let's just sign him lock him up that's how much they wanted to reward him uh his uh his agent said quote alan is one of the highest played paid second baseman in the national league and wiggins himself says this proves that they're willing to pay the price for a winner, and we have a winner in San Diego. The type of organization that we have in San Diego is like family.

How about this? Keep that in mind in a couple minutes. Jesus Christ. I'm impressed. Padres general manager said he established himself as an outstanding second baseman last season while providing the offensive spark to ignite our club. We look forward to his efforts leading the Padres winning in the future. Also, his agent, what's his name?

Atanasio is his agent. He said he was confident that he's going to play this out and get an even better deal next time. Wiggins is free to renegotiate the contract one year after he qualifies for free agency. So that's after the 87 season, which there. And his agent said, we didn't want the contract to go much beyond his free agency year. They're looking at playing out this contract for $3 million, and then 87 is going to be the cash-in money. We're going to fucking be, you know. Cr ricky henderson retirement money yeah exactly that's what it is here uh he said they wanted him to be free to sell his services to the highest bidder

and he said uh but his agent also said quote if he decided to retire after four years he wouldn't have to work another day in his life and that's without making investments yeah so i don't know what the fuck he was socking it away but either way grace yeah grace can we say that that is big words though because today three million dollars it's you're gonna blow through that pretty fucking quick it ain't happening good luck you're retiring for shit with no no back then i guess yeah that's that's probably sticking it in the bank and living off of it yeah i mean that'd probably be like seven eight million now yeah you could live off that you could do just fine yeah you could normal yeah normal people regular people aren't making eight million dollars in their life and they're gonna live so you can do it you spend

50 grand a year about probably you couldn't live like you did when you were an mlb player like you couldn't buy rolls royces and shit but if you want a new caddy every year if you wanted to move into a 1600 square foot three bedroom house done deal and drive a chevy cavalier crushing it you could live forever on that you'd be fine maybe a cobalt no there you go maybe you might be able to up it a little bit at least get the upgraded stereo package so that's grace for him the 85 season comes around and he's got a fresh new contract and uh he's got a he's got a junior oh yeah he's married everything's going well they expect him to be i mean fuck they thought their manager said he's the most valuable player in the league to him uh april 25th 1985 alan just doesn't show up for a game. What? He just doesn't show up.

He no calls, no shows. Like he works at a fucking, you know. To the majors. Like he works at a pizza place or something. He just no call, no show to the major leagues. He quiz-node the Padres. He just did it. Fuck him.

Fuck him. Not coming in today, everybody. How do you do that? No call, no show. Just he quit like a roofer would quit his job that's how he did it uh yeah just doesn't show up for a game against the dodgers just weird uh so uh flannery the teammates said quote i'll never forget that day as long as i live i'm taking infield and dick williams comes out uh comes to me about 25 minutes before game time and said quote quote, get ready because you're going to be playing tonight

and you're going to be playing a long time because the other guy, that's what he called him, didn't show up. He called him the other guy? The other guy didn't show up. And this guy said, quote, that's the last time most of us ever saw him. What? So, yeah, he just never showed up. One day he was fine.

Next day, never showed up again. He just ghosted. How do you do that? He never showed up. The Padres called the police because they didn't know what the fuck was wrong with him. This is not normal. never showed up again and he just how do you ghosted uh he never showed up the uh the padres called the police because they didn't know what the fuck was wrong with missing this is not normal yeah this isn't like i said if you don't show up for your shift at mcdonald's they just go i don't know tim quit right fuck him i guess i don't know see if he shows up tomorrow he probably won't be

here tomorrow but if a baseball player doesn't show up you're like is he dead he's contracted to be there does someone kill him is he like bloody in his house i mean you literally start thinking the worst so he's got three million dollars who knows they call the police and uh the next day he finally he's missing for over 36 hours oh my gone no one can find him completely under the radar his wife doesn't know where he is just disappeared uh you know can't find anything about him and then the next day later on that evening when they were he was supposed to be at a game right he emerges and uh pops up and immediately checks himself into a rehab center oh no because uh yeah there is a there are conflicting reports over whether he was arrested in that 36 hours for cocaine possession

uh and not so i'm not sure which it is if it ended up getting kind of pushed under the out of the press radar yes but yeah he just he was on a bender either way and he ended up uh go checking himself directly into rehab for there and uh the padres said no more with this shit they literally said where he's done immediately they said he's never going to play for us again done we're done with him fucking well they can't cut him because they owe him four million dollars so they got to try to trade him or something there are three million dollars they owe him so uh they said that the padre owner said uh which was crock joan crock uh ray's wife there she said that wiggins wasn't coming back there's nothing that he or his agent can do to persuade them

otherwise uh his agent anatasia atanasio Otherwise, his agent, Atanasios, said, It still bothers me to this day. The problem in San Diego should have been taken care of from the start. It was not a matter of baseball. It was a matter of life. A human being was in trouble. They didn't even listen. I said, What if the doctor says he not only can play,

but must play to preserve his life? That's what they said. What if he has to play or else he's going to die out there? And he says, do you know what Kroc's response was? I said, and then he said, quote, she gave me the same response. She just said, tough shit, basically. He's not playing here. Didn't care.

Yeah. So also a Padre, the president of the Padres at the time, said we knew after that happened he'd never play for us again. While some people looked at what we did as somewhat cruel, every doctor I've talked to in the field told me that the last thing drug addicts will do is hold on to their job.

If you force them to live up to their responsibilities, you can be a catalyst. We had to do what we thought was right. So they said what they were doing was a favor for him to you know as we'll find out i don't know how that worked out wiggins we care so go away and never talk to us again fire yeah we care so go away we we don't like you so he didn't show this is fucking crazy man uh yeah they just conducted a team meeting and said uh basically alan's alan's out uh yeah that was that and uh a tough shit so um the padres said quote

to my knowledge no one has spoken to him since sometime yesterday that was while he was missing uh we're just hoping we hear something when we get to the ballpark tonight i really wish i could say more about the matter we've checked with the police department we've checked with all the hospitals we tried to call his home and uh we know his clothes are in his hotel room here that's all we know that's it i haven't really i haven't seen him i really don't know at this time what the club will do we'll have to find out the whole story and they did uh so they said finally that someone saw him. This was the day he went missing. Steve Garvey said, someone said they saw Allen at 3.30 or 4 o'clock. I hope everything is all right with him.

We all do. Then Tony Gwynn said, I'm just like everybody else. I'm a little worried about him. I just want to know he's all right. So that's kind of how it was. Just everybody, he was just this missing guy. Everybody's worried. So it's at this point that Peter Uberberoth who is now in charge of baseball he has decided that he is going to take a fucking hard line stance on drugs really okay by the way it comes out here uh during this whole thing that

wiggins is also under investigation under federal investigation oh no uh for a big time drug thing that's going on it's uh it's the big pittsburgh drug thing now we've talked about it here and there we're going to do a we'll do you know what we'll do one of these days we'll do a bonus episode on the pittsburgh cocaine investigation because there's about 20 players from different sports involved in it and it's a big crazy wild thing that we can only touch on in these individual episodes. Otherwise, it would be the whole episode. So he's actually under federal investigation for that as well, they find out. So that's not great.

So Peter Ubaroff makes this big speech to people, and he says the health of the very few people in baseball that have problems are what he's concerned with. that have problems or what he's concerned with. He said he's also concerned with the reputations of players who serve as idols to young people and the danger that gamblers could use players hooked on drugs to fix games. That was a big deal he used to worry about in the 60s. You get in deep enough to somebody, which nowadays is kind of a moot point because you'd have to do a whole lot of coke to make Tom Brady throw a game.

I mean, how much coke would he have to do? The guy's $300 million. You'd really, really have to have a whole lot of coke to make Tom Brady throw a game. I mean, how much coke would he have to do? The guy's $300 million. You'd really, really have to have a lot on him. I don't know, a bunch of keys moving through his particular area of the country. You know what I mean? Him being involved in it. Yeah. It may make him throw some.

There you go. I don't know. If he's involved in it, you know what I mean? He's going to cheat. We just don't know if he's going to throw. He might deflate a ball or two. That's right. Or some sidelines.

Jesus Christ. So the general counsel for the union said that he cited mutual trust and goodwill between himself and Uberoth and said even the umpires now have agreed to get drug tested. But the baseball players don't want to. This is when they were trying to force mandatory drug testing for players. And the players did not want to do it at first, obviously. The Players Association, they said they accused the League of Grandstanding. I guess a few players backed the mandatory testing.

One guy in the Phillies said, let's do it and get the damn drug addicts out of the game. Oh, my boy. That's John Wokenfuss. He's just mad about his name he's woke he's woke as fuck john woke as fuck so uh bob stanley the uh boston pitcher said i don't take drugs i don't believe i have to piss in a bottle to prove i don't and dale murphy who's a complete teetotaler he won't even drink soda this i'm not even kidding i think think he's a Mormon. He said, it's assuming a guy is guilty without knowing. I understand there's a problem.

We have to try to solve it, but it's that principle that's hard for me to accept. Check out my hook while the DJ revolves it. Yeah, exactly. You know that's exactly what it is. I understand there's a problem and we have to try to solve it. So, he said that... He's a problem we have to we have to try to solve it so uh he said that huge he's ahead of his time no i i stole it from him this is an 85 vanell ice is a huge dale murphy fan and he stole it he's like yo that dale murphy man he just had

some shit he knows what's up he just had some shit man you know he just dropped some knowledge another thing the commissioner was pissed off about in a speech he said he's extra pissed off because alan wiggins had just done a tv spot that just aired right before this happened for major league baseball productions warning kids about the dangers of drugs he just he just did that so uh you brought here he was pissed he said that pissed him off and then for some reason he said fuck eddie house which i thought was uncalled for it was uncalled for eddie house was probably seven years old at this point so really not cool but it's a kid he's still he's just like fuck him brick throwing motherfucker i was like wow dude chill out so he enters his second stint in drug rehab here on april 27th 1985 and uh yeah it's man it's not good the padres say they're done and

the agent here tony atanasio he keeps saying like he's trying to be like you know i mean yeah the padres said that they're done with him but you know let's see what happens maybe he'll be back and the padres just will not even entertain the thought that he might ever be back again ever uh that's it um yeah and now he said the agent said that that wiggins allen told him he'd be ready to play within 30 days he said i'll be ready to play the second i get out of here uh the agent said that's his feeling based on some conversations we've had but i haven't spoken any to anyone other than allen about this there and uh basically that he would have to um he would because the the 82 arrest was before the new drug policy he would be eligible to come right back because he's a first-time offender in

baseball technically so he could do that but uh the padres were firm that he wouldn't play for them uh they said quote alan must devote all of his energies to his recovery he can best do that without the pressures of major league baseball which I mean, that's probably probably correct. But, you know, I don't know. He also said when they were talking about him not showing up, they were so surprised that the president said, I thought he'd been in an accident. I never even thought about drugs. I talked to Allen for 45 minutes the day before and he seemed fine. thought about drugs i talked to alan for 45 minutes the day before and he seemed fine that's crazy uh to go from that to fuck my life fuck my job i don't care about i don't care about any of

it to pull like a full stanley wilson right i'm just running away climbing out the window is fucking bonkers uh yeah they said that he seemed fine when he disappeared i called the players association but i was told i should not talk to Allen and that they would handle it. It's like kind of legal shit at that. The reason we came out so early in saying Allen would never play for the Padres again was so that Allen would know it and so that the team would know it. I've had strong support from the other players. Even some of Allen's friends were disappointed that he hadn't told them or me about his problem. But as much as anything else, Allen let his fans down fans down yeah oh boy he's getting jesus christ wow um they said the padres

have clearly in the past demonstrated tremendous loyalty to their players and themselves uh and he said that uh yeah they said wiggins though the agent said that wiggins is very disappointed he said he loves san diego and he loves playing here I don't think he quite understands the feelings of everyone on the Padre side so he's like what's what's a big fucking deal so I didn't show up a little bit so under this the baseball drugs thing here he'll be paid his regular salary for the first 30 days of rehab if he needs further rehab he'll receive half his regular salary for the next 30 days if he's still undergoing treatment after that he'd be paid the baseball minimum salary for the rest of that time which at that time you know how much it was jimmy uh 60 grand 40 grand a year oh my

word 40 grand a year when you were a child there was there was guys on television playing major league baseball making 40000 a year. Think about that. That's unbelievable. Think about that. Making like what normal people just, that's what Major League. And that was a little more back then, but it still wasn't wealthy. It's still driving a Corolla to the stadium.

Yeah, $40,000 in 85 was not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. Unreal. Yeah, so Juneune 27th 1985 this is he's done his rehab and he's done another this is 30 days after he's done out of rehab he's traded by the padres they don't want him anymore but the orioles sure will take him oh my god the other side of the country going to baltimore yeah no more southern california here he's traded for a player to be named later and Roy Lee Jackson. Yeah, the Orioles, they send him there. The Orioles send Rich Caldwell to the Padres to complete the trade.

People are going to Al and they say, well, it's a fresh start for you. It sure is. He says, well, quote, there's no such thing as a fresh start, especially not with this thing called the media. Baltimore is a new place, a different place, but I'm still the same person I always was. The successes and failures of the past are always with you. Any other positive fucking anything else bright and cheery you want to toss up at me that I can slap to the ground like a fucking badminton birdie? Anything?

I'm just going to tell you how fucking awful everything is. Spike it back in your face so uh yeah he keeps bringing it up though he says quote i'm a little nervous who wouldn't be it'd be different if i was just coming in here to play but there's public public relations and a lot of other things involved here uh and earl weaver who if you have we've mentioned it several times but if you have never listened to it listen to earl weaver it's on youtube the audio of the earl weaver radio show where he's the manager of the orioles and he's a famous lunatic he holds nothing back he holds nothing back and it was

after a loss and he's contracted to do this fucking radio show after every show and he has just had it he did not want to do it that day clearly and they made him do it anyway and he's in a perfectly calm tone like he's telling anybody else. Somebody will be like, it's Rose from something Maryland says, how do you do something with your rose bushes? Because he's famous for having rose bushes. He goes, I think Rose should worry about her. I think Margaret should worry a little bit less about her rose bushes and a little bit

more about where our next lay is coming from. I'll tell you that much right fucking now these fucking people over here then it's okay next question errol he goes well why do you keep this guy on the bench instead of starting him he goes that guy's lucky he has a fucking job so you say he goes sits on the end of the fucking bench holding it down for the end of the show maybe get one goddamn swing in and accomplish something but that guy's lucky he's on a fucking roster just like this is amazing and then at the end of it he's like all right fuck you thanks a lot have a good one and he just fucking walks out listen to it it's wonderful he's an angry little man he's an angry little man for a long time he had the record for most ejections uh for a baseball

manager bobby cox finally broke it the braves manager because he was around forever i've seen the i think it was it maybe it had to be majors where he's chasing an ump around the fucking diamond it's just screaming and it's here billy martin earl weaver any of those billy martin and earl weaver very similar lou panella was from that school too lou panella is a little bit bigger so he's like a little frightening at least billy and earl are both tiny the umps are like get out of here you little shit right so he's telling the ump how many wins he's gotten he went i was got how many world series are yeah that's so great so uh earl weaver says quote we're hoping he does the things for us that he did for san diego last year the stats he compiled there would be helpful to this

club and to our needs we think he can help us win some games we hope he can help us win the pennant but we won't know until the end of the season fair uh he says wiggins says i don't feel i'm a franchise i'm coming to a team already loaded with talent i'm not going to knock in 100 runs but i might score 100 given a full season with the type of hitters they have all i have to do is get on base true uh but he only has two hits in his first 16 at bats uh there uh because he he had a little bit of an injury so he was in the minors that's what he does in the minors but baltimore baltimore calls him up and uh he does his thing they see said quote i'm not quite 100 but i'm close enough my timing is good and my arm is strong my legs are loose and limber but they still don't have the drive yet.

He's got to get back into the groove. So finally, July of 85, he comes to the Orioles and the fans dug him because they don't give a shit. You get a new guy. If he's not doing coke right now, he's hitting well. Great. Good for you. Fuck.

In 76 games, he hits 285 and steals 30 bases there for 85 in baltimore which isn't bad but after a little while people start to not like him there he starts he stops running out ground balls oh no stops hustling um yeah stops uh uh you know trying stops playing the field as hard as he did before uh the balls get by him at second that he should have put a little bit more effort into he uh won't talk to the press anymore uh stops talking to the coaching staff eventually doesn't even talk to his teammates anymore just literally becomes a complete loner uh the 85 orioles go 83 and 78 this is eddie murray fucking cal ripken jr fred lynn lee lacey larry is a lot of fucking bangers on this

team good bats on this team and also on this team uh Sammy Stewart who we remember from an episode we had really he was a crackhead he was a quote first class crack smoker got it as he described himself that's Sammy Stewart there so these two guys are on the same team which is frightening thank fuck they don't hang out put it that way uh so yeah he has a good season except for being a recluse and spending most of his most he just hangs out in his hotel room that's what he does they say he's a loner in the clubhouse um he uh his family is still on the west coast too his wife and his two kids are still in the west coast so that's not good for him either they're staying they had a house out there they just stayed there they want

they don't want to move to baltimore from san diego which understandable i get it don't you want a white christmas come on what do you want here you want to live through the crack epidemic in baltimore where you could really see it from the front lines yeah you want to see it so uh yeah wiggins said quote the fans didn't see the true me. They saw a guy who didn't hustle, who dogged it down the line. They didn't see a guy thrown into a strange city without his family. So he's saying it was depression that did all that. He said, I'm not that type of player, and I've never been that type of player.

I made errors, but I made them because my concentration wasn't there. I was depressed, and playing that way was my way of expressing it. Fair. I get it, but a lot of guys don't live around their families. You still got to play better. You're also paid not to let that affect you. Yeah, you better talk to him on the phone before the game, get your head out of your ass, and get out there,

because that's crazy. They said that eventually they would move into a house in the suburb of baltimore that he bought for his family but otherwise he would spend his off hours he had a north baltimore townhouse and he said he would sit in front of the tv and eat twinkies constantly just eat twinkies they said he'd go days without talking to some of his teammates sometimes talking to any of them he just wouldn't talk to anybody. He was just miserable, which makes no sense. He should be thrilled he's back in the league, but he's not. He said, quote, I was depressed.

I couldn't accept the fact that I was away from my family. My wife had just given birth to our son, Alan Jr., and I wanted to be with them. It was a hard time. Plus, they're worried about drugs. Is he doing drugs? Is that what the problem is? So they just kind of ignore him and hope that nothing will come up to the surface.

One of those things. The horns ring. Yeah. There's some clanging in the engine, and we're going to ignore it and hope it goes away. That's what it is here. Part of the stipulation, though, of the trade when they got Wiggins was that he had to undergo undergo testing for drugs three four or even five times a week uh whatever however much it came up and uh earl weaver the manager said as many times as we've tested him alan wiggins has to be the cleanest guy in the

major leagues his attitude is no longer a problem he has all the skills to be a great player in this league so we're all trying to push it under uh by the way he makes 512 000 for 1985 not bad which is better than 40 000 um he said his family though people that know him well said that he would just scoff at rehab he thought it was a joke um they said that it wasn't going to do anything to him for him uh they said he became very defiant about it they um you know it's basically you he thought that that was admitting defeat like that he couldn't do it himself and shit like that he thought rehab was a way for people to try to control him and he in his mind he thought the league controlled you enough is the way he put it everything's fucking control they're not going to control

me here too and he had that sort sort of mentality, which I understand. I get it. Yeah. He said the 86 season comes around, though, and he's ready to have a fresh start. He said, it's my job to get on base and score runs, and that's what I plan on doing. With guys like Lee Lacey, Cal Ripken, Eddie Murray, Fred Lynn batting behind me, it could turn out to

be a special season. I feel good about myself. I feel good about our chances. I'll try to stay healthy. I've got to believe there's a good times ahead obviously yeah how do you feel about you oh so many good times good times right well there's 73 and 89 this season so that's not that great that's 89 bad times that's bad um wiggins was again not living up to his potential uh earl weaver ordered him to take extra grounders in the spring and he thought that that was stupid because he said grounders hit from a fungo bat and the real actual ground ball getting smoked at you from a hitter aren't the same thing and they're it's

just stupid to practice so uh yeah he did he would get in trouble with ear Weaver. Then in 86, he has a problem. He strikes out and he threw his bat into the dugout and it hit Cal Ripken Jr. So he fucking hit Cal Ripken there. And Cal Ripken said that if he ever did that again, he would, quote, break your fucking back. So he got threatened with a curse from Cal Ripken. Not your bat. Your fucking back. Your fucking back, he said. Yeah, not your bat your fucking back fucking back he said yeah i will break your fucking back uh apparently he uh people just didn't like him whenever any anybody would

ask about him like is he a good teammate you get they get a lot of no comments yeah which is basically saying yeah he sucks i don't like him at all yeah that's that's it um one player who wouldn't give his name said quote i've I've tried everything with him, man. I give up. He's just a dick. I just don't like him. He also, during the season, got picked off with the hidden ball trick. Oh, no.

The Rosen bag? You're clearly not paying attention. Yeah. The first baseman. Right. Yeah. He didn't pay attention. A little meeting at the mound.

Got tricked. Comes back with the ball. Yep. out so boy uh the next day he made three throwing errors two of them in the eighth inning of a close game oh you asshole uh yeah not not terrific here um bad story errors in one game yeah and two and two of them the years after he got picked off the day before. So people were pissed. Yeah, he said people were booing him very bad and, you know, that sort of shit. And he was getting mad. He said, quote, I have my family in the stands and it's humiliating. I've done everything they've asked of me here.

I've taken 60 drug tests and come up clean on every one. I'm hitting 285 when she was hitting 265 at the time so whatever uh and i'm producing i didn't ask to come to the great baltimore orioles they wanted me if they don't want me they then they should do something about it oh he's asking to leave fucking get rid of me if you don't like me he's mad at the fans he loudly wants out yeah uh they did something on the the scoreboard where after he got all the errors where it was a nightly Baltimore scoreboard feature. Who am I?

Where portions of the Orioles of the player's face are revealed. Yeah. And you can you guess until it comes out. And it was Wiggins that night. And so everybody fucking booed like crazy. And they put it up right after he made two errors so he was pissed about that face boo not great at all um yeah one of his uh one of his teammates said quote uh i don't blame him for being upset about the picture the timing was the worst i've

seen but wiggins has had more chances than anyone who ever wore an Orioles uniform. More than Mike Cullar. And I gave Cullar more chances than my first wife. That's what Earl Weaver said. That's great. Than my first wife. Whenever he gets another chance remains to be seen. Or whether he gets another chance remains to be seen.

So, yeah, this is what I mean. It's more than my first wife. It's going downhill. He starts talking to the media a little bit more, and he said that he tells the media that he's only doing it because he was, quote, asked by a couple of individuals in the front office to do it. He said, quote, I was just tired of answering the same questions over and over, but you can't avoid the media, and they have their job to do.

But the media needs the players more than the players need the media we're not running for office all they ask is uh all i ask is that they're fair and quote me correctly still they'll quote you uh they'll quote you correctly then give an opinion on the public that and the public construes that as fact or at least as generally accepted opinion and the little things get blown out of proportion okay he says it seems like people in america are obsessed with reading about other people's Or at least as generally accepted opinion. And the little things get blown out of proportion. Okay. He says, it seems like people in America are obsessed with reading about other people's misfortune. Look at the National Enquirer. Who wants to hear about an eight-legged baby? But it's popular.

It's the same with baseball. It's always so-and-so tested positive and so-and-so was late. Give it a little bit. Yeah. You're about to see websites. Where do you see that? Where do you see social media? Yeah, man. It is pretty funny, though, that i don't agree with this that he said that uh the media needs

the players more than the players need the media nope you need each other exactly the right amount because if they don't promote you guess what nobody shows up to watch you or gives a shit if there isn't people if you don't have skip ballas and whatever black guy he feels like arguing with that week yelling at and being wrong to this week. If you don't have those idiots yelling at each other about a game, then their fans don't get jacked up and say, I'm going to see that game to show Kip Bayless. He's a fucking idiot. It all feeds into itself. So Colin Cowherd making bullshit predictions.

Yeah. It's all about it. It doesn't matter. Yeah. See how well sports radio is doing right now right without the sports not too well is it guys yeah so they do need that and vice versa so uh yeah Wiggins says uh quote being the leadoff hitter is a little different here than in San Diego because this is a better ball club we don't usually need to scratch for one run we can even

play uh we can play for uh even for a while and we know we'll get our runs baltimore was a running team a scrapping team and uh earl weaver hated that by the way really yeah because they said well how come you don't steal more bases that was on the radio show and earl weaver said oh yeah get these little sons of bitches out there on the bases running around like fucking rabbits getting picked off and shit meanwhile i'd rather send some big son of a bitch up there to hit it over the goddamn fence and get it get it over with the one fucking swing that's great he said every run is still important but we're not as pressed to create situations here because after me and lee lacy you've got five guys who are all capable of hitting

25 homers i still have the green light to steal but take fewer chances now that makes sense yeah you don't have to uh he had a shitty spring he hit 193 in the spring and uh and he continued to hit shitty through april and uh weaver uh would take him out of the game every once in a while and that would piss fucking wiggins off uh this year weaver said quote he got off to a real slow start some of his line drives were being caught sure but he wasn't getting on base and there's not much else he can do offensively he's not getting on base there's really no point to him uh wiggins uh was mad he's he thought that he'd been branded because of his drug problems and his attitude and uh he says he just expects to be blamed for shit.

He says, I went one for nine in the spring and they panicked. All of a sudden, my job was up for grabs. Then we get off to a slow start. The whole team wasn't playing well, and my lack of production was magnified. I took the brunt of it like it was all my fault. So Earl sat me down, but that's okay. I wasn't getting on so i can couldn't complain i've been swinging the bat real well all year though in fact i thought i was swinging a little

i was swinging the bat a little better in april but now i'm getting some cheap hits and the line drives are falling in even when you hit the ball hard you've only got around a 50 50 chance of getting a hit it takes talent but it helps to be lucky, which is true. I mean, seeing I single is called that for a reason. So this year he plays in 71 games for the Orioles, hits 251, only has 21 steals because they're not letting him steal as much. February 14th, 87, though, before the season, he has another daughter. Oh, shit. Daughter Candice is born. Baby three.

Baby Trey here. Three kids. So April 1st 1987 okay he tells the team tells alan that he won't be starting and he's going to be on the bench i just kind of gave you the overview of the month where they were mad at him and all this shit this is what happens here he was doing like shit um um you know whatever so this is the year uh calken Sr. is the manager here. Now Earl Weaver's gone. Cal Ripken Sr. is the manager. And this particular season, he has a good spring.

The last one was for 86. 87, he has a good spring. He hits 413 in the spring. He's doing great. So he says, quote, I've earned a spot on this team. I would think a guy hitting 400 with a 500 on base percentage would be a starter. Even more, I think he should be guaranteed a job, but he's going to start on the bench instead. They start him on the bench, and he's pissed off about it.

And also there he said he might be like a utility outfielder, which he's mad at. But he thinks he should be not a utility guy. He'll play the outfield, but just every day he wants to play the outfield. So he says ripken senior said with a 24-man roster i'm looking for versatility if alan wiggins can play outfield infield ndh then you're in a position to make a one-player move i can use him as a pinch runner then put him in the field and i've only used one player which makes sense but uh this is getting to something here alan says that he's never seen himself as a utility player he says you need a

leadoff hitter who can get on base with a walk someone utility player he says you need a leadoff hitter who can get on base with a walk someone who can bunt you need a guy who can get on base period i can fill that bill he says uh quote i don't know what he's waiting for i'm a good hitter with good speed and i think i'm a very good outfielder i've earned a spot on this team it's at this point that doc gooden gets arrested for coke and it blows up every article is doc gooden and then alan is the next guy they talk about so every no matter what now everybody's talking about alan being on coke even though that was two years ago because they all ask him about doc gooden basically everybody so uh yeah they ask him about uh rehabilitation and he tells the media oh it's a necessity now he doesn't believe

this as we know yeah he says it's learning about yourself if they put another label on it uh on it it would drug rehab it would really sell constructive criticism from your peers can help he says being honest with yourself is the key it's the same way when a player goes out and gets drunk every night and gets stopped by the cops they say oh you're so-and-so we'll let you go and they do nothing that doesn't do any good. You could kill somebody. But just because you didn't get a ticket doesn't mean you're not an alcoholic. He says there, he says, it's naive to believe that if you go over 20, you're on drugs,

especially on this level. Professional athletes are the last you'll be able to tell by performance. They've been doing this since they were eight years old. Guys can go out until three o'clock in the morning the night before a day game and go out and get three hits or pitch a shutout they rest a couple of nights and then they can get it back it has no bearing on performance whatsoever which is true david wells was hung over his fuck when he pitched a perfect game at one o'clock in the afternoon so he's pissed he wants a starting job none of it makes fucking sense and it doesn't make sense but the only thing that makes less

sense about this jimmy is the sales oh boy oh the sales if you happen to be in baltimore yeah in april of 1987 we have some sales for you first off head on down to the cal ripken baseball camp yes learn to play baseball the oriole way how much? This is in June. There's discounts for day and overnight campers. Staff includes Oriole manager, coaches, and players, plus scouts and college coaches. Video analysis and personalized videos. Attend Oriole and Hagertown Suns games. It doesn't say how much money there is. Overnight campers.

Overnight campers. Stay here because fucking Cal sure won't be. Cal's going to deal you. He's going home. He's going home. Also, head on down to the Ford dealership down there where they have a Ford Escort here for $8,825. You can get one of those mid-80s weird Mustangs that were like four-cylinder shitboxes for $95.80. A hard top.

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's one of those coupes, those little weird 80s ones. It's like garbage. The Ford Tempo here I have for $10,713. It is more than the Mustang. More than that. You can get yourself a Bronco, an OJ Bronco for $13,152 or a 4x4 Suzuki Samurai for only $69.95. $69.95.

$69.95. That's it because you're going to roll it over outside anyway. And then when you're done there, take your new car and head on down to Lionel Kitty City for your toys here. I found they have a great, they say it's a great starter computer for home or business use. It features 65K of memory okay james this is kitty city is a computer store toy store oh kitty city oh kid yeah yeah got it uh this is uh 65k

of memory is that nothing it's nothing phone book on my phone i'm not even not even uh 8997 for that so it's cheap you can get an atari printer yeah here these are atari computers by the way a printer from atari here for 139 get yourself a nice huffy 20 inch bike uh boys 54.99 not bad there get yourself an atari 7800 video game system. Oh, shit, yeah. $79.97 for that, for the whole system. Very cheap. No one was buying that. That seems expensive. Laser tag setup.

The old school. Remember the commercials? Oh, it was so much fun. In the 80s for the laser tag? I loved it. Fuck yeah. $39.84 on sale for. It's expensive.

Fuck, man. That sounds great. Scores hits up to 100 feet away yeah that's for one gun and one sensor so it's 40 bucks per kid to play oh jesus it's not even for two kids nope two kids fuck off here's one enjoy uh teddy ruxpin is on sale 49.97 for teddy ruxpin teddy was 50 bucks? 50 bucks. Wow.

It's a lot of technology. Teddy had a tape player in him which in 87 cost you money. That seems like a lot. I said it before my little brother Eric I would put my Wu-Tang tape in it

and Teddy Ruxpin would try to keep up. Eric would be pissed at me. No. He would try. He would try. Old Dirty couldn't just keep up with him

just couldn't work. And finally a talking cricket doll. Yeah. Big weird's a girl named cricket girl named cricket uh 79 dollars and 97 cents oh and by the way get some pound puppies for 14.97 each oh those were amazing take those i miss those the sales guys if you happen to be there so uh the 87 orioles suck anyway they're 67 and 95 uh yeah basically he is the fans hate him the teammates hate him his uh agent here at tenacio his silver-haired middle-aged white man said quote it was abysmal players would stand in an area alan would walk over and guys would disperse and leave Allen standing alone. He'd walk over to another group and they'd leave.

When he was on the road, he was alone. When he was at home, he was alone. It manifested itself into a lot of disappointment and a lot of misunderstanding. The guys didn't even know he was married. They didn't even know he had kids and they didn't care. He was unmercifully depressed. They turned their backs and pushed him aside in San Diego. And now he was going

to baltimore replacing rich dower who was one of the close-knit guys on the team they're thinking here comes this black militant kid and he's trying to take one of our guys's place they never forgave him for that and he was ostracized like it's his fucking fault yeah he got traded there uh so they they said also they had been testing him for cocaine every single day basically but when they stopped testing he just started using again so they test him for a couple months they're like he's got it every day so he's like cool i don't have to test anymore right sweet so uh finally in early august he's suspended for three days after a confrontation with a teammate here and also with his manager kyle ripken and we'll

talk about this during the confrontation uh apparently wiggins cursed at kyle ripken senior and grabbed him by the shirt can't do that to your manager wiggins said that he only cursed at ripken and he only did that after kyle ripken made a racial slur toward him, which Cal Ripken Sr. denies. It involved, it was batting practice. Wiggins was watching Jim Dwyer hit and apparently made a joke about, the pitcher was throwing shitty pitches in batting practice, Sammy Snyder. And Dwyer said Wiggins remarked

that Snyder should hit Dwyer in the head with the ball. So Dwyer turned around and grabbed Wiggins by the shirt and pushed him up against the batting cage. And Wiggins was heard to say, quote, cool down, JJ. Okay. So then a coach, Elrod Hendricks, separated the two and put a bear hug on Wiggins

and fucking carried him off the field because he's smaller. So Wiggins said, quote, I was kidding. Dwyer had no right to come up and grab me then Elrod I wasn't the aggressor I was just trying to get away Dwyer starts a fight Cal calls me in and I get suspended apparently when he got called in

to talk to Cal Ripken that's when that confrontation happened they argued in the clubhouse and reporters were listening near a door that was left open also Allen says quote I've been set up. Don't you yell sit down, boy, to me. That's what happened, apparently.

That's what the reporters, that's the, yeah, he said sit down, boy. And he said, don't you yell sit down, boy, at me. Which, fair. You can't call a fucking grown black man boy. I'm sorry. I don't care if you're the manager and it's just an old baseball thing. Sit down, boy. boy right i'm sorry yeah i don't care if you're the manager and it's just an old baseball thing sit down boy like you don't call a fucking don't call a grown black man boy just don't do it it's not okay you're gonna get yelled at for that rightfully fucking so only known it's not a yeah

it's a known thing not to do give me a fucking break so that was the whole thing and ripken said afterwards that uh that alan grabbed him by the shirt during the argument, which led to an insubordination and a suspension. And Ripken said, I'm not going to tolerate anyone talking to me like that. I'm not going to have anyone grab my shirt like that. I had no recourse but to suspend him. And so Wiggins agent said, quote, maybe his personality is such that it doesn't blend with the other guys on his team. But management has to be able to mold him and work with him or get rid of him. Don't just keep him around and treat him like shit, basically.

Yeah. So the assistant general counsel for the Players Association said it's rather a petty kind of matter right now that has taken on a life of its own with this whole thing. of matter right now that has taken on a life of its own with this whole thing yes so september 1st 1987 uh baseball commissioner peter uberoth suspends alan wiggins for improper behavior is what he suspends him for that's all he'll say at the time uh no one will will give any specifics on why uh the they use very loose language on purpose and uh uh the uh orioles though do they won't the guy saying it the official won't do it on the record but he does confirm that it involves a positive cocaine test oh is why they shit canned him not great so so it's all over it's yeah the orioles said in a statement that Wiggins was only being suspended for, quote, actions detrimental to the best interest of baseball. And then one official said, it's fucking coke. That's what it is.

So they said that the suspension had nothing to do with the previous suspension, except that he was displaying a pattern of erratic behavior, both at the ballpark and away from it. That prompted teammates to encourage the club to increase the number of times he was drug tested say something's wrong with him drug tested more and uh yeah apparently the day before he got into this fight with cal ripken senior he had been uh thrown out of a bar for having a shouting match not only with the girl he was with but several of his teammates that were also in the bar. He tried to start fights with them and then he turned on the woman he was with and they had to remove him from the bar.

Who isn't his wife. Not his wife at all. Just some woman he was with. Or one of the other guy's girlfriends or who the fuck knows. Somebody, some chick he was screaming at in a bar to where he had to be removed from it. His behavior is erratic, let's just say here so i guess uh they wouldn't release him though they said they were hoping to get

something out of him uh they wanted to trade him or something like that uh baseball they're talking about the drug policy basically for multiple drug event offenses it's that he would be prevented from returning to the league for 60 to 90 days and uh the source here said that they thought wiggins would fall into this category and uh they didn't know what was going to happen so wiggins is sent to sit in his fucking place and eat twinkies he has no idea what to do with himself yeah as who the fuck would this year he you know he doesn't have a good year he hits 232 with only 20 stolen bases. So not a terrific year. He's sitting at home suspended.

But the Twinkies are gross after a while. Have you ever eaten more than two Twinkies? You can't do it. No. The thing in your mouth, that paste that gets on the roof of your mouth is gross. It's bad stuff. You start tasting the banana. When you have a Twinkie, you don't realize that's banana cake.

Have eight of it, and you're like, what is that? The second one, you're like, oh, that is banana. That artificial weird banana flavor. Number three, you're like, oh, God, this is starting to get real gross. He gets hungry. He starts wandering the streets, and he's like, I got to find something. And he smells something delicious. Oh, boy.

He smells something delicious. He goes, that smells good. I'm going to have some of that. And he opens it up, and it's the shawarma man. And he says. I'm going to have some of that. And he opens it up. And it's the shawarma man.

And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here? Why are you here? Why do you do? Look, I tell you. Listen, guy. Hey, guy. I tell you. Cocaine.

I know. Shawarma man. He dabbles sometime. I know. I know it's tough. But you have it all. I can do the cocaine. I can give you shawarma still.

You, you go out. You can't. You choke an old man. You can't. You can't do that. You can't. Why? Why you do that? I sit here every day with the shawarma.

I say, come on. I make for you. I make for you. People come in. They say, give me this. Give me that shawarma, man. I can't tell them, hey, go fuck you.

I can't say that. I want to say, hey, go fuck your mother. I don't want to make you shawarma, Schwerin man. I can't tell them, hey, go fuck you. I can't say that. I want to say, hey, go fuck your mother. I don't want to make you Schwerin, but I can do. I can do. You get out of my store. I've had it. We got it. Signs say close.

Go. You go. And Alan Wiggins is very confused as he's running out the door because the Schwerin man's wielding a large knife. That knife that's falling off it. It's very big. Alan's like, Jesus fucking Christ. It's not sharp on the end off it it's very it's very big alan's like jesus fucking christ it's not sharp on the end but it's long i wouldn't let cal i'd let cal ripken say whatever he wanted to

me if he had that fucking knife in his hand i'm scared so finally september 29th 1987 he is released by the orioles can't get anything for him they release him he made 762 500 bucks that year my god so uh alan is cast out into nothingness. Nobody in baseball wants anything to do with it. Baseball's done. They're done with him. It's the end of his career. You can get busted constantly if you're Doc Gooden.

You can't get busted constantly if you're a guy that has an attitude that people don't like. If you're Allen Wiggins, it isn't going to work. So, he starts to study the real estate market when he gets back to San Diego. He would go to the library. He'd look up up zoning laws and he'd talk about shit like that he talked about maybe a baseball comeback uh he'd also fish a lot and uh play some golf here and there there you go there were some things but uh the other problem is um he he was starting to physically not seem to be himself anymore because he was having some more drug problems. If you take all the testing away, but he's still getting paid, do you think he's not going to do drugs?

Now he doesn't have to show up for batting practice. I mean, fuck. He doesn't have Cal Ripken breathing down his throat. No. They said he started losing weight, but he's always a real skinny guy. He's a 160-pound guy. He's not a big guy at all uh during his playing days so nobody really noticed that he was losing weight uh he started he was doing good financial

things he bought a home in rancho what the fuck penequistos penequist quitos i don't know what the fuck that is for 414 000 in june of 88 which is probably a massive house in June of 88, and sold it in July of the next year for $657,500. He's making money, James. So he flipped a house. He made some money. He had $150,000 life insurance with the Players Association, a policy that was there. He talked to his agent, made arrangements for his deferred salary

because that was the deal whereas they would release him but they still owe him all this money so they made a deal for deferred salary uh which was to be a hundred thousand dollars a year for the next seven years followed by a lump sum of one million dollars oh he's doing great so he 19 made a hundred grand a year for the next seven and then 1994 he would have got a million bucks which hey fucking a not bad uh his agent said he loves his children so much he's going to make sure that they're always be taken care of problem is while he's doing all this he also starts to um talk to people less and less uh his friends don't talk to him so much anymore it's hard to get a hold of he doesn't call back he doesn't do anything uh after a while people say he just sort of went

into seclusion almost he just backed out of everything uh he would see his family but he wouldn't even call his friends anymore or do anything like that uh yeah his daughter said that he she felt like his life he thought his life was basically over at that point she also said at this point his drug problems escalated uh instead of just doing coke now he started doing heroin what and he started shooting heroin oh no it's over he started shooting heroin they said he quote he went back to la bought a penthouse apartment downtown and basically used it as a shooting gallery wow he bought a big apartment in a big you know beautiful building and used it as a shooting gallery. Wow. He bought a big apartment in a big, you know, beautiful building and used it to fucking just fire up as much heroin as he wanted.

Hanging out with other junkies. I mean, shooting up heroin with other junkies. Just hanging out in your penthouse there. His daughter says, quote, I remember visiting him when I was around three. There was a pink coffee table in his living room and on top of it was a lot of drug paraphernalia, something I would definitely identify now as a crack pipe because his daughter was his other daughter was born in 87. Candace, he'd already given up. I

didn't really put it together that this person was my dad. I was thinking this is a bad guy. That's my strongest memory of him. Everything else I know comes from my mother, sister and brother. that's my strongest memory of him everything else i know comes from my mother sister and brother yeah so this is crazy the problem was um may 1990 and he's just he's falling apart more and more may 1990 his father dies oh no um yeah he was visiting with his he was with his family in may when his father died that we didn't have a good relationship with but he had tried to have one eventually died of cancer and apparently it was really devastating to alan relationship with but he had tried to have one eventually died of cancer and apparently it was really devastating to alan to alan because he had no parents now uh i guess he and his father had become closer finally over the the last five years or so so he didn't have him

his whole life and he finally got him and now he's gone so he's uh it's very sad he always took his kids to go see his dad so they would he have a relationship with them. He was trying to force a relationship with his dad to say, hey, you're going to be nice to my kids. So that's nice. He ends up putting one of his houses on the market. He moves to Pasadena. He would stay with friends after a while. He just didn't even, he put his house up for sale and would kind of wander around, that sort of thing. Problem is here, oh, by the way, daughter candace she's born uh around that time she was three years old here in 1990

she gets hit by a car and almost loses one of her eyes um she still has a big scar under her left eye and uh yeah it's fucking crazy but she's a good basketball player when she's in the first grade she scored 30 points against fourth graders in a basketball game by the time she was in the fifth grade they she had to play on the boys team so it would be competitive she was just dominating people so uh she's britney griner pretty much yeah so uh january 6 i'm sorry november of 1991 or 1990 alan is admitted to the hospital for pneumonia. He's got respiratory problems. He's got pneumonia.

COVID. That's well, you know what? That would be preferable because on January 6th, 1991, he dies. Oh, no way. He dies from complications. They first announced its complications from pneumonia and lung disease. And you would imagine, oh, wow. Yeah, he's got the Corona.

No, it's AIDS. No way. Alan has full blown AIDS. What? He comes out. Doesn't come out at first. The hospital just says respiratory. And then finally, one of his family members comes out and says he's died from complications of AIDS.

He's had AIDS the last three years. He got it from sharing needles in his fucking penthouse with people unbelievable bad stuff um yeah he went downhill real fast i mean he just started shedding weight and just he was horrible because he was still doing drugs too which i guess is he probably didn't slow down much nope uh the the psychiatrist in baltimore uh that Dr. James McGee, said, quote, he has had some health problems for some time. He knew what was happening. The last few times I talked to him about four months ago were not fun, happy conversations. He was not in good shape and wasn't optimistic. Things were not going well for him.

He'd been hospitalized on several occasions and finally admitted on November 29th. They said that he was coughing, had difficulty breathing, and had indication of pneumonia. What a tragic life, James. Tragic. Drifted in and out of consciousness during his stay, and finally 37 days later he dies. He's only 32. Yeah. He's 30.

He should still be playing. He should. He should have still been like... This was when he planned to be playing in the middle of a big free agent contract at this time. And the only people there was his wife and his wife's mother were the last people there. They visited him. They tried to make him comfortable, but it was not going well.

He had a lot of pain. I guess Angie had to return home with the the kids and that's when he died there. Um, yeah, it's, it's bad stuff, man. It sucks. Um, uh, one of his old friends said, I think everybody's asking themselves why and what could we have done to help? I'm still trying to figure out how this happened. His brother said, it's so tough when you see someone going through the pain he was going

through and not being able to do anything about it. We always hung on to that hope. We kept praying God would perform a miracle. We held out hope right to the end. Yeah. And his friend Hollier said that, by the way, when he died, he weighed less than 75 pounds. Good Lord. It's insane.

His friend Hollier said, I feel like basically he died alone. We all cared about him greatly, but I think he felt embarrassed about what had happened, and he shut us out. I mean, as close as we were, none of us even knew he was sick. Can you believe that? Yeah, that's fucking terrible. He got diagnosed with AIDS before he was 30. Before he was 30, and that was in 80s AIDS.

That was scary. That was vicious AIDS. Yeah, and back then, I mean, that was when everybody, it was just this crazy thing that was out there. Nobody understood it. People didn't know. Yeah, people didn't understand it this was almost uh this was two months and two weeks before magic johnson's announcement wow when he died before magic johnson if you don't know what we're talking about announced he had hiv to the world and fucking made the whole thing a different thing

magic johnson getting it made the whole thing difference different magic johnson getting it was like tom hanks getting the fucking coronavirus where people were like oh shit that's real we have to oh wow you know you're you're not just like not only just a intravenous drug users are like you know gay dudes banging each other in bathrooms at a club is how people thought about it or ironically is what uh or chinese people live in a village not only they can get it it's everybody can is what uh that's how in a village. Not only they can get it. It's everybody can. That's how Tom Hanks portrayed it in Philadelphia. Yeah, exactly.

It's the truth. So this is two months shy of this announcement. So it's still got the stigma on it is still not. Oh, it's nasty. It's nasty. It's you get it. And people are like, oh, you're dirty. Yeah. Rather than after magic got it, people started to go, oh, right.

We can help these people a womanizing guy can a womanizing straight guy can get it too which is crazy yeah it's funny when people get empathy when shit when they can put themselves in it see them owning that situation you can't see a major league baseball player who washed out of the majors sitting in a penthouse sky high shooting up heroin with a bunch of junkies. That's not my life. That's not me. So think about this. He's got three kids.

Ten, seven, and three are his children at this point. Babies. Babies. His wife that he's known since junior high. Think about this. Think about if you're these fucking kids. Not only, even if you're the 10-year-old, not only did your dad die, but your dad died of something that has a nasty stigma about it.

Everyone's going to look at it. In a selfish way. It's fucking great. I mean, I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Alan Wiggins, VP of Wealth Management at Service First Bank in Birmingham, Alabama. Alan Wiggins, Director of affairs at konoko phillips company

in katie texas yeah alan wiggins assistant professor at the university of michigan dearborn here and alan wiggins uh rn icu nurse at uh kern medical in baker california bakersfield california so there's that. Now, the reaction to this is obviously a lot of sadness. Tony Gwynn says, quote, he died at 32. My goodness. Then he said, you talk about a catalyst. It seemed like every time I came up, Wiggy was on base.

He was Mr. Excitement. He made things happen. He started out playing center field and left field and then did a great job when he moved to second base. So there's that. Another guy here said, quote, Wiggy was controversial. He always bucked the system. I guess rebel is the right word for him. He'd say something and 22 of the 25 guys in the ball club would disagree. But this is a terrible loss for everybody.

So weird thing to say. Nobody really liked him, but we're still sad. 22 or 25 could give a shit. But the other three, they'll be on the side of the casket. No shit. Tony Gwynn said he should still be playing, but he was never the same after he left San Diego. He left and we waited five years to get another leadoff, man. Gwynn said he lived near Wiggins, actually, but hadn't seen him at all uh there before you know hadn't

doesn't see him around never saw him uh he said the last time he saw him quote he was in good spirits but he didn't look like himself he looked like he hadn't eaten in several days he told me he was doing a lot of fishing at Lake Poway yeah it's called AIDS yeah it's called AIDS and heroin also take your pick which one's gonna make you worse. I asked him if he missed baseball. He said he did in some ways, but not in others. He seemed content. He had his son with him. Yeah, so Larry Lucino, who's the Orioles president, said he was a person and a player of enormous potential who showed that for only fleeting moments.

Jesus, when somebody died. It's sad to see a young man and an athlete die at that age it's stunning frank robinson the legendary hall of famer he said naturally death always catches you by surprise especially at such a young age when you haven't heard about them being sick i have tremendous sympathy for his family uh yeah coach elrod hendricks who had to take him away in a bear hug right he said he was a very intelligent young man too bad he had the problem with drugs. I've heard so many times that mine is a terrible thing to waste,

and this is a classic case. So, yeah, a pitcher that played with him said, what happened with the drugs and stuff like that kind of ruined his life. He was sort of a loner, a different sort of player. He had a lot of problems in his life, and he came to Baltimore on a bad note. Then Luciano, the other guy said, quote, player he had a lot of problems in his life and he came to baltimore on a bad note uh then luciano lucino the other guy said quote we gave him a second chance a third chance whatever you want to call it ed williams the team's owner gave him an opportunity to resurrect and rehabilitate

he got a good deal of professional support and attention not our fault yeah not us we didn't do it hey what color is my hair give me a fucking break here yeah uh so the even the others the team psychologist said that he got as much special care as anyone could get uh yeah he had some ability but when he started getting into the drug problem the ability dwindled every year jesus christ people don't think that's the point you guys yeah uh gary templeton the shortstop he said that uh he called himself probably wiggins closest friend and he didn't even know he was sick. He said that's all it was. So he said that's how he is.

The last time I talked to him, he said Wiggins told me he was getting into computers after he retired. He said I was really happy for him because it seemed like he was getting his life back together. He just had a few problems he could never straighten out. I hope he's at rest now. he just had a few problems he could never straighten out i hope he's at rest now and uh jack mckeon the old it was a world series champion manager and was the gm of the padres he said i don't know what his problem was he was a good kid real shy and quiet but once he had the drug problem everything turned on him i was hoping he'd turn himself around uh yeah i would say so what his problem is i don't know what his fucking problem is fucking addiction and stuff i don't know it's just like these things fucking

guy i think i don't know i think he was hanging out with eddie house that was the problem it's a goddamn issue so at the funeral uh his wife of nine years there annie or angie she was there and uh she asked her she asked if lee lacy was there who's a former baltimore teammate and lee lacy raised his hand and uh she said alan loved lee lacy i believe lee lacy's not in baltimore today because he stuck up for alan they were dogging him with the orioles and lee lacy stuck by him when a lot of others wouldn't that's when i guess his brother uh alan's brother kind of said hey relax let's not be come on down here come on off the stage let's not be crazy let's get somebody else up there to talk

yeah clearly engulfed in them he he you know how many players are here how many two oh good that's disgusting is lee lacy here lee lacy thank you you know who else the only fucking person who he played with besides lee Lacey to show up? Charlie Gwynn? Steve Garvey. Oh, really? Steve Garvey. Just thought it was the right thing to do.

He's the only member of the 84 Padre team that he was supposed to be the most valuable guy and all that. They didn't give a fuck. That's it. Unbelievable. And Lee Lacey was the only guy there. All in all, there were five former teammates. The other three were his buddies from school.

So major league, though. Wow. Those three from earlier. That's it. That that's it those are the only friends there his agent tony adonazio said quote some friends huh which is great i remember when he was with the padres and he was in minnesota and drug rehabilitation he'd call me and say here's my number tell the guys to call me i go to the ballpark and give out the number to a few guys and you know what not once did they ever call him he was begging for people and then they when they didn't he would just back away from him um he said that's what makes me sick now seeing these guys come out in the paper like they're his friends and they're not even at the funeral his friends were at the service the rest

is pseudo and that bothers me a lot fuck yeah fuck those people um yeah i would say so uh another guy said if you didn't know him you might get the wrong picture of him people didn't have the right perception we see things in the paper about him and say come on that's not the alan we know uh tony gwynn said to not like alan wiggins is to not know alan wiggins so that's the shit his agent's talking about like you didn't fucking like him aren't you there where were you you didn't even like the fucking guy uh there uh another guy said quote you know he could have avoided the bad press if he told people his life story people would back off but he didn't think it was their business which is true valuable uh logical thing to say in 1985 if he would have said look uh i grew up without a dad and just lost my mother to fucking alzheimer's disease and i'm having a hard

time with this and this but they would have went hey maybe this guy's got problems maybe we should be supportive but he didn't want to let anybody in nothing i should tell you guys how hard this has been on me yeah absolutely you know how i deal with it fucking heroin that's how jam it right in my great makes you forget forget it all that's why people do it i'm sure uh temporary alzheimer's shit his brother said quote he was a guy who had a lot of pride and that was both an asset and a liability in a lot of ways uh he was also very honest and direct i might not have liked some of the things he was saying but at least you knew where you stood and then he said it may have gotten him into trouble at times but that's tony that's his

brother so he calls him tony you mean alan alan. Alan is buried on a hillside at Rose Hills Memorial Park. Now, the kids, okay? They had a hard time here. The kids said that two months later, they even said, then Magic Johnson comes out and says he's HIV positive, which changed everything. Are they resentful as fuck? No, the daughter said, quote,

My mom became obsessed with magic. The following season after he announced his status, she signed us all up for basketball. She said she thought baseball and its racism had destroyed our family. Mom was really upset about AIDS. She wore a huge scarlet AIDS ribbon. I think for her, Magic Johnson changed

the public perception of the disease. She felt like basketball was more accepting. There might be more support for her children my mother wanted to fulfill the things that she and my dad had talked about before he died like us going to college she knew you could play a sport and get in we all went on basketball scholarships my sister to nyu my brother to the university of san francisco and me to stanford no Candace, yeah. Now my brother plays professional ball overseas, and we'll get to that, too. He does. Yeah, so this was a big deal. She said, I started to gain a higher profile in high school.

I really wanted our name to be associated with something other than baseball, AIDS, drugs, and tragedy. That's tough. Those are for baseball, AIDS, drugs, and tragedy. I never brought him up. There was no such thing as alan wiggins to me there was so much pain associated with it i'd wish why couldn't he have been hit by a truck or something wow well that's what a kid would think though because they're taking the brunt for it i

don't know how to do the same thing yeah he did he did an overdose and then uh hit by his own truck his own yeah that's that's a good point. It fell on him. You'd say AIDS and you'd see the other person's face and immediately your spirit sinks. Now, Alan Jr. turned out to be six foot nine somehow. My Christ. No idea. His dad's like six feet tall. Good pick on basketball, mom.

No clue. But he grew to six fucking nine. He played for San Francisco, the college up there. No clue, but he grew to 6 fucking 9. He played for San Francisco, the college up there, and he ended up playing. He's been playing since 07 overseas. He played in 2019.

He was still playing in Hungary. He played 12 years ago. Oh, he's playing. He's played in France, Romania, the Ukraine, China, France, Belgium, Ukraine, Japan, Turkey, Lithuania, Australia, and Hungary. He's doing great. He's playing. He's averaging.

In Hungary last year, he averaged 9.4 points, 5.5 rebounds a game. So he's probably a bench guy. 6'9", he should get more rebounds. He should get a few more rebounds, yeah. But I mean, 5.5 when you're only averaging 9.4, he might not play that much. That's a good point. That's a good point here. So Cassandra went to NYU, so sports weren't her. That was just a way to go to NYU for free, I think.

So I don't know what she did later. I'm not sure. But Candice, she ended up playing college basketball at Stanford, where she graduated as the all-time leading scorer in Stanford and in Pac-10 women's basketball history. She has played for, in the WNBA, the Minnesota Lynx, Tulsa Shock, Los Angeles Sparks, and New York Liberty, and has played overseas in Spain and Greece.

She won WNBA championship in 2011 and was the sixth woman of the year in 2008. We should know that. Nope. No, no shit. No shit. 2008 we should know that nope no no shit don't know shit she's one of the best players between 2007 and 2014 great and we have no fucking idea god damn it tells you how how high profile the uh wmba is yeah um she said that it was hard it's hard to describe the shame cast on our family during the early 90s you could say the f word more freely than aids it was hard. It's hard to describe the shame cast on our family during the early 90s. You could say the F word more freely than AIDS. It was really my struggle.

It was really my struggle with it. She said that she thought she came to believe when she was a kid that her father was, quote, evil, terrible, the worst father in the world. I judged him so harshly. I forgot about him for a long time. Now she's not anymore. So she's not anymore but uh so she's doing well all the kids are doing well and uh can't get enough oh boy angie must be a badass by the way to hold that family together somehow through drugs and fucking moving and death and aids and everything else and keep her kids on a path to where they all went to good colleges and fucking

were successful in life yeah that's a bad fucking woman right there uh can't get enough i found an alan wiggins the brown the throwback 1984 away padres uh 179.95 for that bad boy the old number two alan wiggins jersey it's a it's a majestic his no it's just a brand new that kind of money the real throwbacks with the names because they don't make a lot of alan wiggins jerseys so there's only two of them a few extra bucks there yeah the one he's buried in probably and then this one and uh that is alan wiggins everybody wow what a fucking crazy messed up story i didn't know that no there's a lot of it there's just heartbroken heartbroken drugs drugs drugs drugs but he did die of aids but you know what he didn't die of

what's that coronavirus so you know what good for him we're keeping that good so like i said nobody bit that was a fun story until the last 15 minutes nobody fucking bitch or else i will find the diddlinest son of a bitch ever next week so let's's not do that. Here's a good way that he could have kept from getting AIDS is don't fucking succumb to heroin. Don't shoot heroin. Good Lord. Don't shoot anything. No needles. I'm sure it's happened, but I haven't heard of anybody who got AIDS from snorting Coke.

Never. It'd be really hard. I don't know how you do that. You'd have to snort Magic Johnson's AIDS blood through your Coke. You'd have to grind a man up and snort him. You'd have to snort Coke out of Magic Johnson's bloody nose. Maybe. Maybe if you freebase it and use...

Okay, I got it here. Maybe if you're going to... All right, this is good. Inject it... Oh, no, it's very complicated. Oh, boy. If you like that show, you know what you can do? I'll tell you what you can do.

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thing you do on that score because it's way above and beyond man so thank you thank you thank you so much and uh you can't you you'll never understand how grateful and thankful we are for you guys doing yeah really work that that otherwise would go unfulfilled. So thank you so, so much for taking care of everything for us. Yeah. The only way we can have to show you is to try to give you extra stuff. Right. And that's what we're trying to do.

We're trying to hustle. That's why we did the Stevie watch along. I know it's not the greatest thing in the world, but it's just something that a few people might like. It's just fun. Thank you. It's a way to say thank you to people. We spent our time doing that with you.

Absolutely. For three hours. I think we're going to're gonna do dope sick love next by the way great so many people are suggesting the wonderful yeah but that's already funny yeah so i feel like yeah that we're not adding anything to that shit is not funny that's what i mean stevie is not an inherently funny documentary it It's a very sad documentary. Very few jokes delivered by Mike. Yeah, but if you look at it the right way, it's hilarious, Stevie. It's the same thing with Dope Sick Love. Not funny at all, but it's hilarious.

But it's the funniest thing. You're the best, Al. That's the saddest statement you've ever heard. Sebastian! But it's wonderful. The whites are already fucking hilarious. They already made it. Johnny Knox But it's wonderful. The whites are already fucking hilarious. They already made it.

Johnny Knoxville made it. It's a comedy already. Same thing with Winnebago Man. People have asked for that. That's a comedy too? But it's meant for you to laugh at it.

It's fucking funny. I mean, the guy's losing his mind screaming and yelling. Yeah. Whatever. So check that out. Also, listen to P.S. I Hate This Movie

where me and my wife Sarah Hunt tear apart romantic comedies. And like I said, if you want to hear me lose it, crazy rant style, Skip Bayless hatred style, that's the place to find it because I'm angry as shit. Maybe we do like Love After Lockup and do like a couple episodes and then see you next week while we finish this season. Yeah. And every week just keep doing it. Yeah, that's true. We could do a whole yeah and every week just keep doing it yeah let's do a whole season of that just keep doing it just keep saying yeah that's exhausting we can do that we

have to make that we have to be there for sure no well we'll end up talking about one of these bonuses we'll talk about love after lockup and all these we have our own stuff yeah we do we want to do here so do all of that check us out and uh without further ado i think uh oh no wait social media at crime and sports and uh on twitter and facebook and at small town murder on instagram is our social media follow us there gave you the patreon already if you want to be one of these people one of these heroic people go ahead and do it but i need to hear these people jimmy jam it into my arm like a filthy, filthy needle. This week's executive producers are Leanne Dice,

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Thank you. Susanna Platt, Jim Healy, Renee Byrne, Joanne Ahern, Rice Probin, Ryan Sargent, Jerry Oliver, you susanna platt jim healy renee burn joanne ahern uh rice probin ryan sergeant uh jerry uh oliver yeah megan newell uh what is that eileen hodnett yep no thomas ludwig andrea papa george jordan bennett john buck uh john sordo christine valdez car Bittner, and then there's one more. I moved it right here.

Kaki Surrett, thank you guys so much for everything that you do for us. We're really just blown away by it. Other producers this week, strap in. This shit's going to be long. Ashley Papano, Akusayix, I think. Gota DeLavidia? No. I think.

Gota DeLavidia? No. Rosie Goldstein. Dave Despacoli. Dee Piscow. Molly Broussard. And Donche. Don't J.

Damn it. Jenna Stoner. This is crazy. Ian Abrams. Will Hart. Taylor Cody. Jim Healy. Joanne with no last name, Megan Hicks, Olivia Tatum. Nope.

Allison Reed, Kyle Hendershot, Susan Borowski, Corey with no last name, Michelle Holmes, Margo Trout, Lester Herbert, Jessica Rothwell, Justin Green-Simon, Pam Putnam, Sean Wells, Patricia Alberts, Ryan Harold, Justin Stragliotti, Catherine Babcock, or Blaylock, Babcock, Bad Cop, I don't know, Tabor DeRoyan, Shireen Cassol, Chris Ferrari, Ashley Angeline, Douglas Parton, Drew Waller, Michelle Gonzalez-Masias, Wendy and Noel Lowe, April Curley, Patricia Young, Stephanie with no last name, Ted Arnold, Jesse Howe, Joe Merkle, Susie Goodman, Jenny Koski, Taylor with no last name, Hannah Johnson, John Stinn, Brian Heller, Dana Holly, Sydney Gillespie, Kristen M., Christine M., Mark Case, Ashley Cuthbertson, Renee, no, that's Williams. What is that? Renee Bird, Williams Reef. Oh, that's what that is. It's Williams Reef's Aquarium.

Ah, okay. That's what it is. Mal, Mal Satorian, Yaz Kun. No, Yaz Hun. Lynn. I'm not fucking cultured. Quincy Moe, Elisa Kane, Dylan LaVallee, Malia Martinez, Erica Taylor, Stephanie with no last name, Corey Owens, Nicole Munier, Ben Streeter, Ashley Curry, Chris McNoodle, McNuckle,

McNuckle, Mike Mangiano, Mangano. Damn it. I'm sorry. uh ben streeter ashley curry chris mcnoodle mcnuckle mckinnuckle mike mangiano mangano damn it i'm sorry you got called mangina i know it kayla lions uh sierra scott kyle root kyle rudd uh andrea n tim reffner angela mag magana magana uh damn it um Chris Caleriti, no. Calier? Calart. Collart. Sorry. Amelia Delfos, Anthony Luciano.

Oh, Anthony and Luciano Renaro. Thank you guys so much. Jennifer Ware, Heather Monday, Jason Swartz, Christian Lopez, and we're just getting started. You ready? Jennifer Stewart, Phoebe McMahon, McHugh, sorry, Angela Dia, Rachel, no, Rachie R, Kelly Brown, Barry with no last name, Devante Burgess, Aaron Hopkins, Catherine Adams, Bailey Green, Timothy Smith, Christopher Davis, Dan with no last name, Harvey with no last name, Isabel Silverstein, Jade with no last name, Harvey with no last name, Isabel Silverstein, Jade with no last name, Lee Blasfeber, no, I'm not going to try, god damn it, I gave my best, Crystal Kefalis, Patrick Sir, Heidi Hauser, Sebastian, Sebastian Kocheki, Melissa

Jones, Tyler Vera, Sam G, Kyle Nelson, Zaley zaley no i don't know what that is veturistics i don't know what i did rayleigh ah fuck emily hudson scott tucker katie felix mike with no last name jake price tyler fitzgerald claudia parks che and steph al Albert Lopez, Amina Zaidine, Rina Jackson, Max J, I think that's who that is, Heather Veltri LaFour, Crystal with no last name, Hannah Patricia, Elisa Cassandra, Eticonics, oh boy, I don't know what that is. Christina Ransom, Lisa Babbitt, Emma with no last name, Kevin with no last name, Catherine Grissett, Christina Krizmaly, Kriznalik, Derry, no, what is Darcy? Darcy Linger, Emma Jolie-Pettis, Nick Richardson, Alexa Page Crowe, Courtney Broche, Joe Hallett, Cassie Avery Vowles, Rebecca Hessler, Tim Lloyd, Jim Lloyd, Connor Fairman,

Caitlin with no last name, Valerie Fortner, Corey Brantley, Haley Hansen, Trill Bina, Dane Ford, Lisa Rooley, Jen Hill, David Lenk, I think,, Cassie, Cassie Peterson, magic, Magilda chunks, Rebecca Ford's Fonz, uh, Nicole Meyer. I'm getting there. Liana, Liana rat ratka, mega Megan Alexander, Amy Dawson. I said that, uh, Melissa boat. What is that?

Melissa Bowe, what is that? Bornette, Eric Brown, Paul Mampilly, Brenda Fournier, Brendan Fournier, Shell Ashley357, Emma with no last name, Tracy Pesek, Becky Grandhill, Rachel Mace, Sam Gordon, Lynn Shaw,

Lena Kay, Matt Meyer, Allie Rash, Isabella Griffith, what is that? Nisa Kelly, Sarah Waddell. You got this, Jimmy. Jump in and encourage you. You're doing well.

You're doing great, Jimmy. Rock it, rock it. Mary with no last name. Demetrius Jones, Angela Littleton. Emma with no last name. Gee Trinder, Tara Shupski. Fuck it, Bucket. Megan Corley, Uncle.

No, that's Wigglebutts. Pampered Mutz. Kiona Loweiana low i think katherine howard courtney couch christina ro ro chia rotieri uh mike strong clayton whitman no yeah brangella brangella stang courtney with no last name karen harris broke dover no that's brookever. Sorry. Carl Bittner. Sarah Spurlock. Kim Cheetleburg. Hunter Thompson. That's his actual name, by the way.

That's really awesome. Yeah. Stephanie Best. Carrie Kelly. Hard to explain. Sam with no last name. Lori Stanek. Haley Dingle.

Allison Davis. Ursula Graham. Olivia Borden. Sadia Abdi. Tracy Willis. Nicole Sargent. Jenna with no last name, Paul Gruber, Betsy Wilson, Charisma, Joe Demio, Sarah Blanche, Sean Delaney, Abraham Ingersoll, Valerie Youngkins, Kathy Collado, Steve Stevenson, Andy Vaughn, Emma Emon Egan, Channing Rankin, David Jackson, Scott Stevenson, Gary Noker, Jay Estes, Luke Rottiere, John Strawns, Jade Robinson, Kelsey Bornstein, Kathy Rivera, Ben Sestak, Alex Aldape, AJ, Kathy Rivera, Robbie Luna, Carly Nielsen, Amanda Campbell, Peachy Dream, Matt Rowland. I said that in the question. Dev Laura, EJ Hausler. What?

No. Nikki Taylor, Erica Popham, Dan Matz, April Growth, Olivia Ritter, Will Robinson, Mike Miller, Melissa with no last name, Francisco Mora, Nicola Marshall, Jessica Lewis, Margo Delaney, I said that, Candace Fitzpatrick, Jordan with no last name, Matt Rowland, Robbie Luna, Peachy Dream, Isabel Aguero, Nick with no last name,ah linderman uh caitlin weakly and uh another page linda linda duran campbell taylor jennings kaylor no kelly keys becca america merfica what stacy stanley holly mcmahon no mccoy you guys really wanted to hear us talk about the tiger king phil bannister tiffany gonzalez Marissa with no last name, Renee with no last name, Ryan Amy, no, Ryan Amy B., Shelly Hansen, Tom C., Sean Ward, Harrison Albertson, Albert, Catherine with no last name, Rach Nehmeyer, I think, Idan Ijad Cortez, probably not. Sue Saunders, Jenny Allen, Tony Francisco, Alyssa McMillan, Samara Vorner, Renee Kellogg, Stacey Greer, Cameron Smiley, Kay Peek, Jude McConkie, Amanda Geary, Sarah Lanier, Kelly

Dunn, Molly Robinson, Zach with no last name, Kyle and Antonio in Texas. Happy birthday by the way. It's a little late. I'm a piece of shit. I gotcha. Christelle or Crystal, Mark Giovanni, William Wheat, Mealy, no, Meal and Petrucci, Jessica Roper, Gabriela with no last name, Brian

Heading, Brendan Winkle, Joseph Hollows, Stacy Nielsen, Frank Sharon, Kayla Bingham Miranda with no last name, Kayla Burkhart, Carol Palmer, Sophie Myers, Charlie Burrs, Haley Lindbeck, P.A. Tironi, Amy Preston, Nathan Vissen, Jeff White, Christine, no, Christy Golightly, Jack Pertain, Emily, no, Rachel Morales, what? Doug Reston, Anne King, Amanda Scott, Danielle Amory, Amanda Kruzak, Michael H., Joey, no,

what is that? Zoe Brown, Rebecca Reed, Michelle with no last name, Josh with no last name, Pertain, no, Brittany, Brittany Moore, Naysan. Naysa Stanton. Tamara Hemsworth. Megan Traylor. No, Taylor. Sorry. Audie Griffith.

Colette Davis. Kevin with no last name. Mackenzie Asprey. Keith Durbin. Kim Welter. God damn it. Oscar Pultrineri. Taylor Bean.

Krista Barnes. DC Blues. Jennifer Justice Thompson. Mucho Macho. Julia Cunningham, Kyle Dunphy, Jen Baird, Jeff Ashton. We're getting into it. We're almost there. God damn it. Sheree Coppice, Lopas. I don't know what I did there.

Kaylin McAdam, Jane Greaser, Ariel with no last name, Jared Markman, Jacob Cruz, Kat Zvard, Zovidard. Braden with know last name. Jared Markman. Jacob Cruz. Kat Zvard. Braden would know last name. Nathan Dayhill. Kerry Bardo. Sam Sharkey. Michael Zucilli. Suzeo. Paul Lino Lakes or Lino Lakes?

What did I just fuck it up again? Lino Lakes. Eloise would know last name. John Targalinkilu. No. Daria Pecciali. That's not right pataccio uh brian spink emily joe uh kevin malali john william kern caitlin asher uh carol palmer amanda dalton kaylee bethalen bathalon probably not alicia parmenter kat Katie Koch, or Coach, or Koch, sorry, Tessa Allen, Terry Bigum, Amber Lee, Amber Fields, Anja Richter, Anja Richter, David Boudreau, Boudre, Bethany Lamke, Lisa

Stiff, Terry, no, yeah, Terry Burks, Neil Anis, Neil Anis, maybe? Jessica Hensley, Chris Nelson, Brooke Foster. Grumpy Pender. Pender. Pater ass. What? No. Grumpy Pater ass. I don't think so. I hope not.

Jessica Cushball. Kimber Vautour. Ivy Lopez. Brooke Foster. Jessica Kalick. Scott Hamburger. That can't be true. Small Town Cunt.

That's for sure not true. Teenie Witcher. Nicole Tina Witcher. Nicole Mores. Maura, yeah. Mack with no last name, Laura Weimer, Zach Dubois, Jordan Wallen, Eric Rankins, Megan Morell, Susan Renaud, Hunter Davis, Mary Levon, Eric Ballard, Angela Mattias, The Bartix, Heidiedrick Phoebe Watkinson yeah Victoria Northcutt, Ash with no last name Sean Columbus, Barb Joy Barb John Lay

Michelle Swasey Michelle Socks no, Fox Holly Drury, Amy Ouellette Morgan Reed Parker, Diane Davis Elaine Jay, Lindsay Smith Justin Blau, Stephanie with no last name, Maya Carson, Stephen Steen, Alan Mindy Pierce, Elisa Perrazzo, Christy Lee. We are almost done. Aaron Conrad, Jana G, Bo Hibbert, Brooke Bruce, Shannon Brown, Ashley Poole, Brett Loves Retta, John Holder, Moira Smith, Katie Cook, Sarah Butler, Brett Nidzwik.

No, Nidzwiki, Olivia Jennell, Kanye Twitty, probably not, Nicholas Hornig, I fucking pray, Lily with no last name, Joe Pivernick, Megan Gary, Thomas Smith, Brian Bostard, Madeline Horowitz, Gwen Van Veen, Colleen with no last name, Kelly Hby Ashley VO Cindy Weber Lynn Gross Robin Bullock Valerie Lavoie Gina Excel James Martyr Donna with no last name Rachel Denson Benson God damn it Jeff Bauman Tara Miller Marissa Cook

Matt Ladmerant no Kim Kelman Laura Laura Reese Esther Rose Deborah Ober Western fuck what the fuck? That's not true. I'm sure it's different. I'm sure I fucked it up.

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And until next week, everybody. Oh, no, that's still... I did it again, damn it. I keep thinking I'm there. I love that so much. Live from the Crime and Sports Studios. We will see you next week. Bye. Bye.

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