Crime in Sports - #203 - More Lives Than A Drug Addicted Cat - The Profligateness of Marty Jannetty

Episode Date: April 7, 2020

This week, we bodyslam our way through the story of a man who defines the term "wasted potential". No one in wrestling history has been given more chances to be employed, or screwed those cha...nces up quite so badly. He did plenty of drugs, fought cops in bar parking lots, and that's only the beginning. Tales of his debauchery are legendary. Some are hilarious, and some are downright criminal. He is a unique kind of disaster! Have sex with your cousin, snort your way out of every job you get, and never learn from your mistakes with Marty Jannetty!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:05:20 email that you put in on there let's get right to this okay okay today's fellow this week is frederick martin genetti yeah marty genetti do you remember marty genetti i know the name he was one of the rockers he was sean michaels tag team partner before he was a he's one of these guys he this guy if you've seen the movie the wrestler you know with mickey roar this is that this is the guy people have put it on other people and said, I mean, not saying they've based it on him. I'm just saying it's an exact replica. It could have been a documentary on Marty Jannetty.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Just follow him around from the trailer, except with way more crack in Marty Jannetty's case. Like, if the wrestler was a little sadder, that would be Marty Jannetty. He would look up at the wrestler in wide-eyed admiration. We'll put it that way. So it's... That guy has a very feline face now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 What happened to him? I don't know. Oh, Mickey. Stop it. He's like 68 years old. I get it. He's done a lot of drugs and booze. He's done more cutting on his face.
Starting point is 00:06:19 He smokes four to five packs of cigarettes a day probably while doing cardio. He's a weird guy. He's always wandering around with a tiny dog dressed in weird shit. while doing cardio yeah he's a weird guy it's always wandering around with a tiny dog dressed in weird shit mickey rourke's a famously weird guy that's i mean that's he's been known for that since the 80s he's a nut i loved uh harley davidson and marlboro man that was a fun movie he's a great actor there's a reason why he was never yeah like an a-list movie star and it had nothing to do with his talent and had to do it that he's fucking crazy and he's undependable
Starting point is 00:06:46 and he's been a bit of a loose cannon over the years. So that's why people are like, I don't think we want to work with Mickey Rourke. He knocked out the director of photography on his last film, I feel like. Also, the movies are interfering with his schedule of getting his face cut off. That's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:07:00 What the fuck? He looks like a cat. Getting his face fucked up. I can't believe it. A lot of coke snorting to do. Poor guy. Let's talk about Marty Jannetty here. He is born February 3rd, 1960 in Columbus, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And the best way to describe Marty is there's an interview that he did with Kayfabe Commentaries. They do very good shoot interviews with wrestlers. And they do something called Breaking Kayfabe, which is this series they do where they kind of get into the wrestlers' personal lives. It's kind of not really about, they don't say, like, oh, what was that match at WrestleMania like? They're like, you know, so how much did your dad have to drink before he put his dick in your mouth? Like, things like that. Yeah, like, they're getting into, it's why people are fucked up. Because they get the fucked up wrestlers, and they bring them in.
Starting point is 00:07:44 There's one on New Jack that I watched for the for the new jack episode we get them to interview our kelly i don't know if i don't know if he would yeah you have to be in need of 1500 or whatever they pay that's the that's the difference which he might be nowadays but that's he needs a lawyer fees taken care of all our k-fave most of time, the wrestlers that are in that position who have had crazy lives and are done and everything like that, they need $1,500 is the problem. So that's why they come in and they tell about their horrible childhoods. Just selling it. I heard about New Jack's fucking dad shooting his mom while he's holding him. We'll get into that when we do the New Jack episode.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Good lord. Yeah, it's a crazy thing. Well, Marty Jannetty, this interview is insane. the new jack episode but lord yeah it's it's a crazy thing well marty genetti this interview is insane he okay first of all i don't know what he's on or what's wrong with him but there's something fucking wrong with him uh now the guys at kayfabe commentary say they didn't see him take anything or anything like that but who knows what a guy does when he goes to take a leak or whatever you don't know right but marty is he's talking talking like this the whole time just real fast you know kind of mumbling under his breath,
Starting point is 00:08:45 and he'll just try to trail off, and he'll just start something else, just start talking about something else. So we were over here, and then, oh, so 1983, and it's like, where the fuck did that come from? Oh, no. And the guy talks about, the guy, Sean Oliver, who does the kayfabe commentaries, he talks about how they had to, it took him like four days to cut this thing together to make sense. Everywhere?
Starting point is 00:09:04 To make, yeah, to try to like, because he would stop a story, start something else, it took him like four days to cut this thing together to make sense everywhere to make yeah to try to like it because he would stop a story start something else and then he'd be like oh yeah now the end of that story but it was a half hour later and between four other things he's like so he had to try to put it together so it fucking made sense and shit like wouldn't it be much more fun to just watch that happen but he was trying to tarantino it on your own that's the thing but the guy okay he's got a weird responsibility the guy doing his interviews because he can't make a guy look terrible and make it look like he's not trying to help out because then other guys won't want to do interviews
Starting point is 00:09:34 with good points it'll look like you go do an interview with him for 1500 bucks and he'll ruin your any chance of future employment you might have your lunacy exactly so he talks about that a lot this guy does in his book this guy wrote a book talking about these crazy incidents and marty this is how delusional he is later there's a little foreshadow after the dvd and the whole video is out with his interview and everything he calls this guy up to say hey man you know i just wasn't in you know i wasn't in the right state of mind i just i feel like i could do a lot better he goes give me another chance let's do it again he goes it's a it's already out yeah and he goes yeah but you know we'll just sit down too we'll just sit down and he goes i'm gonna ask you the same like what are we gonna talk about you said
Starting point is 00:10:12 everything in the last one it's out already and the guy just wasn't happy marty just wasn't happy with how he was and he was saying oh he's like i don't know how you know if this works like this but you once something's out it's out it's done you can't take it all back and say no let's take clear that strike that you know from like the jury's mind now here's this piece of evidence to consider i don't know batman does it every couple of new guy there he is this one growls for some reason i don't know how a bat and growling go together but sure why not we got to be convinced that this storyline meshes with the other one sure what the hell this one and george clooney same thing what the fuck
Starting point is 00:10:51 happened to vicky dale somebody tell us where's schwarzenegger where'd he go where's chris o'donnell who's seen chris o'donnell he might need help i'm sure he needs help he's stuck somewhere chris o'donnell can you guys stop calling uh batgirl fat for a minute and look for Chris O'Donnell? Please. For Christ's sake. So, yeah. So Marty was mad at this dude for this interview. Basically then because he couldn't take it back.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So then he, basically the guy who did the interview said like, dude, I cut the shit out of this to make you look as good as i could you know like it's okay it's fine you know whatever it is what it is basically so then marty takes to social media saying how dare you uh this guy cut this interview up to make me look bad and all this shit and was like it was just ridiculous it was the wrong way yeah he just did this whole barrage of like you know trying to shit on this company for doing this interview with him that because he didn't like the way it turned out meanwhile if you watch it i'm sorry dude showed up mumbling stumbling and saying crazy shit i mean that's it is what it is bro sorry so uh he's born down in columbus georgia yeah and he's a he's a southern guy and uh like i said got that accent like Like, you know, everything he said is just real like, you know, hey, buddy, how you doing? No, he's a Georgia.
Starting point is 00:12:07 He's a cracker. Not a cowboy, a cracker. There's a difference here. Georgia's a cracker. Cowboys are west. There's no cowboy. There's southern cowboys. Not in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Not in Columbus, Georgia. That's a cracker. So he grows up. He didn't have an easy childhood, we'll say. He has a shit childhood. Just white trash is the best way to describe it. Georgia. That's the way he describes it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 But they're poor. Parents aren't real with it. That's a Georgia cowboy, James. Cracker. Georgia cowboy equals cracker. That's probably true. It is. He said that his house growing up with like his family
Starting point is 00:12:46 they were like known as like the trash family like he knew like he knew that like everyone knew basically yeah you know his parents were alcoholics and there was you know that's where that drunk guy lives and you know with them them dirty little white trash kids and all that shit so that's how dismissal based on their class. Exactly. He's very much like the whites of West Virginia here, where they're just like, you know how it is. You know, you have, oh, that's that trashy family that lives in that house.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Well, it was even worse in the 60s. Oh, I'm sure. Where everybody was judgmental of everybody. You know, if someone was divorced in the 60s, everyone would sit and go, oh, she's divorced. Oh, no one talked to her. But if your car breaks down. You'll catch divorce. divorce i guarantee you they call the genetis yeah oh yeah yeah he'll come on over there shit you gotta give him a couple of beers and one wrench
Starting point is 00:13:33 not even the right side he'll figure it out runs but he'll figure it out as long as you give him a couple of beers yeah a couple cold beers all right then we're gonna be doing this we're gonna be doing this i'll make a wrench out of an empty. Don't worry about me. I don't give a shit. You don't know what the hell I can do. I'll beat my son, too. Where, boy? Marty!
Starting point is 00:13:52 So, yeah, Frederick Martin, but he goes by Marty always. It's kind of his... Okay. He just goes by that, I guess. It's cooler than Freddy. Yeah. I guess. It's also better than Martin.
Starting point is 00:14:01 It's better than Martin, yeah, which, you know, whatever. That's a tough name. Yeah, Frederick Martin. Yeah. That's a rough one. it's just a rough one no it doesn't sound cool this sounds like an entire name a first and a last frederick martin right which later on he'll be fucking cool like in the 80s he's straight cool like women are throwing themselves at this guy like god crazy back to the future making marty a full name you know what that might have helped i'll bet it is sure it was he had the long hair he had marty mcfly's name yeah it's not bad it's not a bad deal so it is white trash childhood he says that uh during this he said his first sexual encounter and sex addiction is another thing that he's got a problem with later on he's he's very much whatever he dabbles in he is in a
Starting point is 00:14:45 thousand percent it's full bore full bore pills drugs women this that it's a fucking thousand percent pedal to the metal hell yeah going full blast still to this day too which is i don't know how the hell this guy's alive we'll put it that way so uh he said at 12 years old was his first sexual encounter with a niece or a cousin or something like that that's gross he didn't know the exact relation because it's a white trash all right i don't know it's my dad's cousin's sister who had a thing yeah she was close she was she was at the family reunion every year the big barbecue that's where they find each other it's at that age that's all you pretty much have access to anyway yeah and you shouldn't be obviously so sexed up that you're trying to fuck your family well but in a trash family it happens in a family
Starting point is 00:15:31 that's doesn't not doing well yeah there's a lot of alcoholism and you know who knows what going on there's also sexual abuse a lot of times that's when you get 12 year old relatives that fuck each other is because they've both been abused or one of them's been abused and this ain't their first rodeo exactly he's that one's reeling the other one in and that's that's why child abuse is so terrible because it's exponential growth right because if you make you could make a predator then and now they're gonna do and it goes on and on and on so that happened and it hurts let's try it to where it doesn't that's what i mean and that's what i was obviously not everybody but it, but it's, you know, it happens. So, yeah, this is this is bad stuff. And especially if you're a kid and you it's I don't know, it's it's what happens, man.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So 12 years old, not the best time to have sex with your cousin. No, let's just say. But can we say not crime and sports approved behavior? I would say I think that's an easy having sex with your 12 year old cousin or niece. Yeah. Either or. Which is whichever is whichever yeah because yeah who knows it was either my sister's daughter or somebody else well like
Starting point is 00:16:31 he doesn't know what they call them like oh this is your technically you know this is your uncle's cousin's daughter so is that i guess that's my niece i don't know they'd say that's marty's who the fuck knows but they're the same age this is the redneck family trees really get complicated people always make the joke about one branch it's not one branch it's they're just twisty all the branches are twisty and they go back and reconnect again and fucking you're like whoa that thing doubled back on me they look like they've got vines on them that's what it is that's what it's all twisty and viney and you know it's taken over that's The trunk looks like a candy cane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Shit's lining it all around it. Roots everywhere. This is a gross family tree. It really is. Very mossy. Marty likes sports as a kid. That's how he starts to become his own person is sports. He's good at sports.
Starting point is 00:17:24 He liked football and playing football, but he said he must not have been any good at it because he didn't you know ever never really got caught on in it or anything since i guess i wasn't good enough but i liked it better than anything uh is always a wrestling fan growing up and georgia is has always been a hotbed for wrestling i mean georgia championship wrestling and all that and then in the 70s it came on tbs out of atlanta but i mean that was forever georgia championship wrestling and georgia wrestling so a lot of people in georgia were wrestling fans that grew up in the 60s and 70s and including him just huge wrestling fan and georgia just connects to florida doesn't it oh yeah they touch each other essentially north florida that's all of that man there's a it's a huge wrestling
Starting point is 00:18:02 hotbed florida georgia that's back in the day that was big for wrestling oh louisiana yeah bill watts ran that territory later in the 80s been fine to support plenty of families they all had different territories too because alabama had their own territory and every state pretty much had its own territory sometimes different different territories within the same state tennessee had like three different territories at one point in the same fucking state. It started in the South. Before Jerry Jarrett took it off. Oh, yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Wrestling, it's just different. In the Northeast, there was big wrestling. Because in the 50s, wrestling was big on TV. And it became like a national phenomenon. It became like reality shows now. Literally, Saturday night, there was only two channels, three channels. Everybody watched wrestling on Saturday nights. Like families and you know couples and shit that's what was on so they watched it and it became like a national phenomenon and it the south they do it different
Starting point is 00:18:55 the south they would run like seven days a week smaller smaller little arenas they'd go to the same towns every week unbelievable so you'd be in you know some small town in dothan georgia you'd be there every monday night you're there every single monday so you have to wrestle it's the same people coming to see it so that was how they would work it and in the northeast it was a different thing they would go to like madison square garden once a month and then a big arena in philly once a month and in pittsburgh once a month and they do it like that and have you know draw 15 000 people at once or as a south they'd collect them kind of as they'd do it like that and draw 15,000 people at once. Or as a South, they'd collect them kind of as they'd go and maybe have a big show
Starting point is 00:19:28 at the end of the year or something, Christmas show or whatever. Thanksgiving. Maybe Vince is not that brilliant of a man because as you were explaining that to me, I was like, it'd be great just to create some sort of storyline that changes every week and that way the same people will come see it. That's what they did.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Okay, Vince isn't very smart. No, no, that's that was that's wrestling oh that's wrestling since the beginning of time well yeah i mean i've saw that i saw storylines yeah no before that was part of it then oh yeah yeah no we're talking this storyline started in the teens in the 1920s when guys would do real matches they would have try to have a storyline really and then after a while when you know guys would grapple for two and a half hours on the ground, you know, nobody really... There's not too much of that you can watch. And then somebody won,
Starting point is 00:20:08 and that was it. It was like, who cares? So they were like, what if we make it a little more exciting? Yeah. What if we make it so, you know, you guys work it out and figure out the match,
Starting point is 00:20:16 and then this guy will win one, and then the next guy will win one, and then we'll make a big money on the comeback. And that's how they would do it. That's how it started. And then they just said, well, if we're faking it anyway,
Starting point is 00:20:24 you know, let's just have a a storyline and then it got bigger and bigger and once it television hit that's when it became a nightmare you had to have a storyline because it's weekly television just like a tv show so now it's a storyline yeah to get people to come to the same thing every monday night you have to have a new story right that was on television that weekend same dudes fighting for no reason exactly it's gotta be a prize that's exactly right so uh now marty here he's an amateur wrestler growing up in high school and everything like that because he's in he likes wrestling so he wants to wrestle uh he qualifies from what he says qualifies for the state championship tournament in his sophomore junior and senior year of high school
Starting point is 00:21:03 so that's not bad he doesn't win the tournament but he qualifies he also started boxing in high school as well that's awesome which is interesting and won a few gold gloves uh events around georgia so this is another thing that's weird is like you'd look at marty genetti and he doesn't look like a guy that's like a tough guy and as far as wrestlers go if he was 20 wrestlers lined up all from like 1990 and you'd pick him out and go well i guess i'd fight him if i had to fight somebody but even this guy's like an amateur wrestler with a gold glove background that would kick your fucking ass if you're a normal person but you know the guys used to be tough back then that's what i'm getting at even the pussy looking guys were tough which is weird he then wrestled at chattahoochee valley community college hell
Starting point is 00:21:47 yeah he did that's my alma mater yeah chattahoochee valley community college i didn't know that was a real thing i had no idea that sounds like chattahoochee that sounds like jackson song it sounds like it's a made-up valley community college where they teach stripping yeah doesn't it this is chattahoochee university anything with hoochie in it is not what are we doing we should rename this this is what we do we call the flip and hang now you do that from the top of the pole now that's this this is a advance this is not a 101 course you're gonna have to get some qualifying credits to get to that class that's later on now the chattahoochee valley community college uh there he was a two-time uh njcaa qualifier in the tournaments there which was uh national junior college whatever so uh he eventually dabbled at auburn
Starting point is 00:22:40 university for a minute but uh ended up ended up dropping out of there and uh that was that uh but he stays in from what i saw in a recent interview he stays in touch with his like old wrestling coach and high from high school still really yeah he's still alive he still talks to him which i think is fucking funny sounds like they get drugs together probably hey man you're old you can get them pills right you get them good shit right i mean you're old hang on question you if you're out of shit then i'll just snort whatever bone density pills you got you got something lying around let me let me get in those rattlers crack open tuesday and let's put them on the table and see what we got i don't know just pick a random day get me something to mash it up
Starting point is 00:23:21 with there we are mash that shit into the sn shit into the fish oil pill. You never know. I'll have lower cholesterol, a better heart rate, my dick will be rock hard, and with any luck, I'll be a little stoned, too. My joints feel great. You never know. So, he starts working as a mover. Oh, boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Just driving a moving truck, and he said it was just brutal. That's a tough life. That is a tough job. That's a brutal just brutal that's a tough life that is a tough job oh that's a brutal job i don't envy anybody that does that he said they drive all day you know if they're moving a long distance they drive all day you're exhausted but then you gotta move an entire truck worth of furniture after you're exhausted from driving for seven hours get my table bitch yeah he said it was fucking brutal his body was broken down he just felt terrible it was just an awful job.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And so he thought, well, why don't I try wrestling? Because if I'm going to drive this much, because that's what he heard in wrestling, had a lot of driving. And he said, if I'm going to drive this much and beat the shit out of myself wrestling furniture, might as well wrestle men, I guess. Might as well put my underwear on and go out there. Makes sense, right? You know what would make this moving job better? If the couch fought back. If it fought back, that'd be better. But I knew what it was doing, but it still hurt.
Starting point is 00:24:28 If I knew what the table and the lamp were doing ahead of time, I'd beat the shit out of this couch. Tell you what, here's the problem. Every goddamn time I fight the couch, that fucking end table, he comes in, interfering, hitting me with the lamp that's on top of him. I'm like, listen, you sumbitch. This is me and the couch. Francis pulls around my ankle and yanks me to the floor.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The goddamn love seat comes out, whacks me on the back of the head. They double team me now. It's fucking ridiculous. I'm like, hey, buddy. I'm the king of this goddamn living room. I'm the champion. All the folding chairs from the garage
Starting point is 00:24:59 are whacking me in the head. Yeah, he gets fired for wrestling the furniture. He gets fired for wrestling the furniture. He gets fired for jumping off the roof with an elbow smash onto a couch. That's what wrestling is. It's a moving job where the couch fights back. Some of the guys
Starting point is 00:25:16 back in the day were big stiffs. They were probably wrestling a couch too, from what I understand. He figures out that he can make a few more bucks wrestling. And even in the small territory down out that he can make a few more bucks wrestling and even in the small territory down there he could make a few more bucks uh he says you know he he found out that like kind of wrestling what you'd make you'd make about 400 bucks a week and he goes he was making like 150 bucks a week doing moving so he's like well that seems better why not so he ends up getting into wrestling uh he's trained by a guy named
Starting point is 00:25:45 jerry oats and jerry oats is i mean he he was popular in georgia but a lot of these guys were popular in one little area but they weren't and they go to other areas they kind of just be mediocre stars and it was weird you'd have some guys and no matter where they went dusty roads wherever he went fucking main event or instant but Yeah, but he's got personality. That's what it is. Yeah. Jerry Oates doesn't have a lot of personality. No? No, he just doesn't. And decent worker.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I mean, decent in the ring, knew what he was doing, trained guys, and ended up training Marty. He ran kind of a little wrestling school. He trained Marty. Marty thought he was too small to wrestle. He's like 5'10 and a half, 5'11. He said he was about 205, 210 pounds at the time. That's a lot of man. Yeah, but he's like five ten and a half five eleven he said he was about 205 210 pounds at the time that's a lot of man yeah but he's not like compared to wrestlers yeah you know they're a lot of the rock yeah i mean this is in the early 80s so you still though and we're talking
Starting point is 00:26:35 1983 when he's training the most popular guy in the country is hulk hoganston who's six foot fucking seven and weighs 300 pounds nowhere near marty genetti so can't believe he's that big he's huge yeah not anymore he's shrunk down he's had a bunch of surgeries yeah he's like down about six three now he's had a bunch of surgeries remove vertebrae all the time you just shrink so uh he ends up being trained and he says he thought he was too small and he told the jerry oats guy maybe this isn't for me maybe i'm too small i see all these other guys are huge and he said the jerry oats guy said no no you're gonna be fine kid get in here now I saw an interview with Marty he goes I think he just wanted the money because you know it was a you
Starting point is 00:27:11 know he paid him to train him so he's like I don't think I think I could have been 5'3 and he'd be like no you're gonna be great you're gonna be champion of the world get on in here sounds right yeah these old journeyman wrestlers were fucking hustlers I mean they were they had to to make a living that's what the job was in the first place now they're just translating it into not so competitive they used to be so like cheap and make so little money they used to do a thing where like one guy would volunteer to drive everybody and have everybody pitch in like two cents a mile for gas and they'd make money on that they'd have their wife make a cooler full of like fucking bologna sandwiches to sell the guys on the trip.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Like that's how they were hustling. It's a bologna sandwiches here. And from the front seat. Just like whipping them. Yeah, here you go. That's what they did though. So Jerry Oates trains him. He starts in early 1984 or I'm sorry, 1983 as a wrestler here.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Late 1983, he gets his his first uh his first taste of all this one of his first matches which is pretty interesting is a match uh teaming with his his tag team partner uh jerry oats who is his uh the trainers teaching him uh he goes against butch reed who's a big star in wwf later and wcw and jimny anvil neidhardt a crime and sports alumni here as you'll find a crime and sports alumni here as you'll find many crime and sports alumni here now right away it's funny that he goes by the name oats he took
Starting point is 00:28:30 right first Marty goes by Marty oats at first you know to be Jerry's brother yeah because that's how they used to do it a lot they just take somebody as a partner and be like yeah it's my brother give him the name and that was a thing married though that's crazy yeah but now that was just this my little brother
Starting point is 00:28:44 he's been trained and now he's ready you know what i mean that's what happened so uh it's jerry and marty oats which is hilarious that he takes that name because uh foreshadow here marty genetti another reason why this story is so interesting is he started in a he ends up getting famous in a tag team with sean michaels they end up breaking up this tag team sean michaels becomes a guy who even if you're not a wrestling fan you know who sean michaels is probably he was around forever you don't know who marty genetti is no that's my point right he's the the ridgely guy from lamb he's the you know what i'm saying that's marty genetti drummer of the beatles he's the not even that best is he's the second fucking yeah he's that guy he's the he's the oats
Starting point is 00:29:26 yeah of holland oats he's fucking oats and he goes by the name marty oats which should be his fucking name anyway it's hilarious so that how ironic is that that he will become the oats and he knew it ahead of time it was all his path was laid out before him that's the thing it was like he should have just stopped right there he knew it was coming so uh yeah he wrestles a bunch here getting some experience wrestles like some experienced guys too nikolai volkov who was a big russian in the in the 80s and in uh wwf iron sheik's partner the uh he wrestles mr wrestling too who was big in georgia jimmy anvil knight hearty wrestles down there that's in mid-south He does some Mid-South events in 83 for Bill Watts, doing that stuff. He does, oh my God, he does a mixed, this is a mixed little people match I found here.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Get out. Yes, him and Cowboy Lang versus, and he changed it to Jannetty. He lost the Oats by early 84. Yeah. And picked his own name here. They defeat Roger Kirby and Little Tokyo. That's all? Just two guys?
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's a mixed match. Oh, two guys it's a it's a mixed match oh okay two big guy on each team little guy on each team that's fun i'm not allowed to beat that's yeah you tag in the midget and then as the midget wrestling they'd say and then the other guy would be the big guy be like oh shit he'd have to go tag in the other one because he's not allowed to all right you can't beat up the little you can't beat up the little guy i thought it was against the rules i thought it was two big guys versus two little guys. Now, that's a match. That's not fair. Very quick.
Starting point is 00:30:47 But the two little guys get to be in all the time if they want. Oh, just two of them. And a little swarming tornado around you. Where the fuck are you kicking at them? You just see a guy kicking, swinging, whatever. You little bastards. Over here, you little son of a bitch. Chasing them around the ring.
Starting point is 00:31:00 That was an internet question fairly recently. If there was waves upon waves of eight-year-olds coming at you yeah how many do you think you could defeat first of all over to i had a stand-up joke seven years ago the exact same thing i used to go just i'd take a pause and i go let me ask you a question yeah how many children you think you could beat the shit out of like first graders i just asked somebody i go see i mean what so i figured it out and uh and i also put it to figure it out it's a math problem okay okay i thought you like went to a grade school and figured it out i had a whole thing and i figured out the kids was just an end to how many little people could you beat the shit
Starting point is 00:31:35 out of at the same time yeah so that was my main joke and i was like i mean one you just kick him right in the chest as he's coming at you that's fucking easy that's over two you got you got a fist and another fist and a kick you can really go when it gets to be like three or more is the problem at that point you have to pick one up and hit the other two with him and then once the fourth one comes i think you're gonna have an issue so i think i think three is the answer i think the answer he's gonna get on your back and then they're gonna start getting your legs and then you're going down like gulliver and you're in deep shit i think the answer is as hard as you can kick the first one might change everybody else's mind you never know i'm picturing them like like like uh attackers in
Starting point is 00:32:13 a ninja movie just mindlessly coming at you like just in full attack mode we'll give them like pcp how many that's how many little people on pcp because they're gonna have no fear and feel no pain you're gonna have to physically damage them to knock them out of the way because an eight-year-old if you kick one so hard his head explodes the others are gonna cry that change they're gonna super cry changes the game i've seen an eight-year-old get kicked across a room one time and it it really changed the tempo of the room my friend did that when i was a kid to his little sister and he just kicked her and she flew through the air like the matrix and hit the wall and slid down and everyone went i'm going home now
Starting point is 00:32:50 it was fucked up not cool yeah i think that's the answer though just beat the shit out of one hard enough that yeah nobody wants any part of you little people on pcp though yeah i think that's terrifying one two and then you hit the third i think that's how you do it eventually you're that nobody wants any part of you. Little people on PCP, though. Yeah, I think three. That's terrifying. One, two, and then you hit the third. I think that's how you do it. Eventually, you're going down. Yeah, then you're going down from there, probably. The wait is over.
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Starting point is 00:35:18 and he does uh central states is where he i'm sorry not georgia central states in kansas city which is known as one of the worst territories in the history of wrestling. Terrible. They paid like shit. Bad. Bad. They do like terrible, like outdoor shows and some shit small town in Kansas. Ric Flair is famous for complaining about this territory and how shitty it was and how terrible it was compared to everything else.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So that's where you go if you're young you know because i pay your dues well yeah they take the young guys or the old guys who nobody else wants and that's kind of it or somebody who they fooled into coming in until they realize how shit the pay is basically so because they didn't have a forecast yeah uh he's in central states here he wins the nwa central states television title look at marty he's a champion god damn it in a year here uh beating gary royal so good for him there teams up with bulldog bob brown a lot and he says he learned a lot from bulldog bob brown about psychology and kind of how to work in the ring and shit like that uh he continues to work uh nwa goes to st louis from there and he's kind
Starting point is 00:36:26 of kicking around between st louis and kansas city which they're like three hours apart so why not uh but uh his he says his mentor there the jerry oats guy knew harley race who we've talked about a lot who's like the toughest man ever and he got you know jerry oats brokered a thing to get that's how you would do it back then all of this was word of mouth you wouldn't put like a resume in if you were new you'd send out pictures that's how you do you'd send here's pictures of me i look like i'd like to be a wrestler now and they and if somebody liked your look they'd bring you in and let their guys beat the shit out of you basically and that's how you you you got in the business or if you got trained the guy who trained you would try to get you a job after that and then you know people say good losing maybe they'll give you a chance to win next time that's kind of what it is
Starting point is 00:37:07 and that's dangling the carrot and that that it is and that's exactly it's exactly like comedy yeah you go out there you do take that you do the shit up top there tell them to fill out their comment cards you do that well enough you might be in the middle sometime right but if you do it too well yeah you'll never fucking stop doing it never work again except for that yeah and that's what i figured out in comedy is you have to be bad at the hosting things but good at the comedy part so i'd be like you got fucking comic i don't know what the fuck you want to do with those whatever so i'd be totally not friendly yeah and then do well in comedy so it's like see i'm a bad host but a good comic so i'm not doing hosting and i guess you're right yeah you're you're not really
Starting point is 00:37:41 a real friendly guy somewhere else i would do the fucking least host-friendly jokes possible up front, like fucking angry rants and shit. That would work. Great. But people are like, I remember comics going, that's the weirdest host set I've ever seen. I get killed, but holy shit. Usually, it's like a warm opener. It's usually fun.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Fuck them. No. It's usually a welcome, thanks for being here. We appreciate it. Let me tell you about my kids. We went to the store the other day. I'll tell you, this lady was acting so silly. No, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:38:08 No way. That happened. James' host said, I'd appreciate it if you'd all leave. Yeah. If not, listen to me for a while. Hilarious. And somehow they liked it. So in 85, he continues with NWAW.A. St. Louis and gets some good experience.
Starting point is 00:38:28 He he also was in in Central States where in May 25th of 1985, he has a match against Ric Flair, which is pretty cool. It's a big deal here. He was the N.W.A. World Heavyweight Champion at the time, Ric Flair, which was a huge deal. And Marty TV champion. world heavyweight champion at the time rick flair which was a huge deal and marty tv champion yeah and he that means that you're like basically what they would do is the nwa separate from vince mcmahon and all that they'd have their champion and their champion would go from all the all those different territories to defend the belt so whoever the hot shit guy was locally that rick flair would come in that week on tv and say he's going to kick that guy's ass. And this guy would act like he has a chance to be the champion of the whole country.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And then Ric Flair, you know, they'd fight for a while and usually a draw, an hour long draw. So the local guy wouldn't look bad. And then Ric Flair go the next time. That's how it worked. So Marty Jannetty was the hot shit guy in Kansas City to go up against, basically. And he's also a good wrestler. He gave he gave Ric Flair a good match. That's the other thing i have to say about marty genetti as much as a fuck up as he is he's a really good wrestler he's really good like he's not bad at all you know obviously maybe not
Starting point is 00:39:34 now but if you look at like compared to old school dude could go he could do his thing he wasn't bad he was just fun to watch yeah he was right he i'll tell you about him we get to in a minute but him and his partner at one point are what got me interested in wrestling. When I really. Yeah, absolutely. So he also fights Scott Hall a bunch here. There's a bunch of matches he has with Scott Hall before he Scott Hall when he's in a tag team known as American Starship, where he was. I think he was Coyote.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah. Scott Hall, American Starship Coyote. Not good. He also has a little run in. Scott Hall, American Starship Coyote. Not good. He also has a little run-in with Scott Hall outside the ring. There's an issue here. Jokes are a big deal with wrestlers. They play jokes on each other.
Starting point is 00:40:14 They're called ribs, and it's just the oldest thing in the book. When you're on the road constantly with the same group of guys, it gets monotonous, and they say the only way to break it up is you fuck with each other. And it's fun.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And it's usually little things that say, you know, they'll fucking cut their pant legs off or something when they put them on or shit like that. Or just only take their whole motor out of their car. Take their Mr. Fuji stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Mr. Fuji has the best ones of all time. That's not great. That's fucked up. He did that to the Rockers too, to Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels. That's so fucked up. It's not as fucked up as making the guy drive eight hours to get to the building, and then he says, I'll drive on the way home, and takes the guy 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:40:50 He made the guy drive eight hours to go 20 minutes away. He was some Japanese guy. He goes, that's a long trip today. Long trip, Mr. Noget. He goes, oh, so long. And then they drove home. Oh, I got this one. I'll drive.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And the guy goes, oh, thank you so much. 20 minutes. He goes, what the fuck? He goes, I know a shortcut shortcut and he gets out of the car that's better that's a great joke that's a great joke you tortured yourself you drove for eight hours too that's how great of a fucking river he was he'd do it to himself put 400 miles on your car for no reason uh he also cooked a neighbor's dog mr fuji did no oh yeah mr fuji did that he did do that what did he do apparently uh somebody
Starting point is 00:41:25 i don't know there's a difference between some people say the guy owed him money but fuji said it was something different because i saw fuji talk about it he had some kind of beef with the guy and he invited the guy over to eat and he made this soup and the guy's eating oh this is delicious and he's eating thing he goes delicious he goes you like it it's your dog he tells him in his accent i fucking lost it yeah that's mr fuji's a crazy fuck dude that is fucked up it's evil that's fucking evil that's some serial killer shit he was the most feared guy what is that and apparently he was a super badass and nobody did anything because they were like what are you gonna do he's gonna kick your ass if you say anything to him. So you just had to take it and laugh. Jesus. No, no, that was a mean one.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He did that to piss the guy off. Normally, it would work. Yeah, taking your car engine is just a joke because then he'll bring it back. But this is not a joke. This is he wanted to tell the guy. It's your dog. It's your dog. So he had and the way he says it, Fuji telling it, and he laughs about it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 He goes, I tell him, it's your dog. I'm like, you evil little motherfucker, man. That is horrible. This is his little Asian dude. What a monster. He's a monster. Yeah. So, uh, so this is common.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Just little things. One of the things they like to do is charge shit to each other's rooms. That's a big rib. They'll play the hotel bar. They'll be like, oh yeah, no no they'll find out what room a guy's in yeah yeah no we're charging all this to room 203 and i'm i'm him and the guy will somebody will sign the guy's name then when the guy goes to check out oh it's 600 and they're like what the fuck are you talking about i had a 39 room i didn't realize my ex-wife is a wrestler yeah so yeah two hotel rooms for my kid's birthday yeah this bitch is charging
Starting point is 00:43:05 ice cream cones to my room that's perfect ice cream thank you for charging eight dollar ice cream cones to my room you fucking dickhead this was beyond eight dollars good point apparently wrestlers are a little meaner i guess apparently one night and they're not making any money at this point in these in these territories so apparently one night scott hall they decided to do this to scott hall and scott hall gets down there's a 500 bill from the bar on his tab he doesn't even have 500 he's not doing very well and so he asks around i don't know if we talked about this in the scott hall episode but he asked around and he said you know know, who did it? And somebody told him Marty Jannetty did it. So rather than asking Marty, Scott just found Marty the next day in the locker room. Marty was asleep on a training table.
Starting point is 00:43:51 We did. And yeah, Scott just came up and Scott Hall's a six foot six, 250 pound big guy. He just beat the shit out of Marty while he was sleeping. Yeah. So, I mean, his first three blows were to a sleeping man. Marty didn't even know he was being hit. That's horrible. So, yeah, he fucked Marty up good here. So he got his ass whooped pretty good here uh-huh was it marty
Starting point is 00:44:09 it was no marty didn't do it he goes i didn't fucking do it he goes i don't know who the hell did it wasn't me you better not fall asleep around me no that's that's the thing uh and they are they do the marty and sean become hellacious ribbers later on but at this point he wasn't doing anything i was just in the business i wasn't trying to get you know piss anybody off so he ends up uh winning the central states tag team titles in 86 early 86 and starts teaming up a little bit uh here and there with sean michaels in central states sean michaels is about five six years younger than marty genetti really so yeah the michaels was 18 19 when he broke in the business he was a kid so when they would go to vegas he couldn't even tell me that he had to stay out of the casino floor can you imagine so
Starting point is 00:44:50 yeah that's starting wrestling at that age and becoming fucking sean michaels that's what i mean that's luck man it's luck and it's that dude that guy smart he thought he did and also he just keeps going and going he was a real ball breaker too he did he michaels at one point decided that he wasn't gonna listen to old people anymore in the business and he said shit's changing i think i know what i'm doing even though i don't know what i'm doing basically and you know did that and it worked for him so good for him i mean it also got him you know shit canned and fired a couple times but eventually made him a big star it worked out it worked out he's got a bigger house than i do. Dude, he does very well for himself,
Starting point is 00:45:26 Shawn Michaels, and he hasn't wrestled in a long time. So they end up going, or Marty ends up going to the AWA, which they try to keep him down in Kansas City, but he says he wants to go to the AWA. The AWA just got on ESPN. That was the one that used to be on
Starting point is 00:45:41 like 3.30, 4 o'clock in the afternoon when we were kids. And this was the first wrestling that I really used to watch. WWF was on, but I don't think I knew. I didn't know about it. I didn't know when it was on or anything like that. But I watched ESPN all the time. And after school, it was there.
Starting point is 00:45:58 So I got into this first. He goes there. And he's only there for a minute before they end up hooking him up with Shawn Michaels, who was a kid. And it was also kind of, Hey, you're a few years older than him. You can bring them along and we'll make you guys a tag team and you know, your similar sizes and styles. We'll do that. So they, they did that and, uh, they wanted to have the rock and roll express for a tag
Starting point is 00:46:19 team and another, you know, area. And they wanted to kind of make that kind of a team like young with like bandanas hanging off them and colorful and shit like that the girls would like sure said we want teeny boppers to like you we need to we want to hear that screech when you guys come out of girls basically so they sit them down greg ganya who's verne ganya's son sits him down and he has that's the guy with the fucking fingers the the no script that's harley race who has the vice grip hands that can that can clamshell a fucking beer bottle top with his two of his pinky and ring finger had kids that he would yeah shit out of no no that was fritz von eric god damn it verne is the guy who when he was
Starting point is 00:46:55 90 years old and you know had alzheimer's in an old folks home killed a holocaust survivor with a wrestling move because he just snapped into like some ncaa tournament fucking mode did i know that probably and wow killed a holocaust survivor who was like 98 years old by slamming him to the fucking ground in a wrestling hold well done burn yeah good so yeah burns uh not that you killed but i mean he was still effective into his 90s he's still effective i'm sarcastically yeah yeah nice job you fucking jerk but he ran the awa and he was an old school midwestern guy and it's not very cool we'll put it that way they weren't weren't really this is 1986 so there's a lot of different things are happening now they're not
Starting point is 00:47:36 they're farty basically the ganyas so they sit them down and they want to come up with a name for them and greg ganya comes up with, they want something like Rock and Roll, like the Rock and Roll Express, something with rock in it. So he says, what about the Country Rockers? No. And they're like, the Country Rockers? Yeah, man, the Country Rockers. They're like, we don't want to be the Country Rockers.
Starting point is 00:47:59 That's fucking lame, man. That's something you buy from the patio at goddamn Cracker Barrel. I don't want a country rocker that's what you watch those bear jamboree thing as a disneyland we got some country rockers for y'all to sit in right here you can watch the bears play on their jugs they have them at the charlotte airport for fuck's sake at every airport in the south you fucking people stop it with the rocking chairs they take up too much space you can they really do three normal chairs where two rocking chairs go you fucks there's nowhere to sit and there's just fat people rocking and
Starting point is 00:48:28 i'm like get your fat ass up out of the fucking rocking chair it just makes you look lazier to rock which is weird because you're in movement you think you'd look less lazy than sitting still somehow you look lazier maybe it's the beats headphones and the airplane pillow around their fucking probably that's it and the three slices of sabaro they're holding in their fucking hand with a mcrib on top of it well they have to hold their suitcase with their feet so that airport security doesn't think it's an abandoned bag yeah and i see them take a cinnabon out of their pocket which is if someone takes a cinnabon out of their coat pocket they got problems that's a problem inside pocket not
Starting point is 00:49:06 good where was that and why oh boy so uh so country rockers isn't gonna work so they sit down with Vern Gagne who's a you know he's in the 60s or late 50s and midwestern kind of a corny guy yeah they sit down with him and they're like all right we got a name what about the midnight rockers that's the what they wanted like we'll compromise with the rockers that's cool but country not so cool midnight rockers they said it came from sean michaels came up with it from a judas priest song and he thought it was cool the midnight thing and he's like what about that and verne gagne said initially he didn't like it because he said don't you think this is a fucking how out of touch this guy was don't this has been said a million times this story but he says don't you think this is a fucking how out of touch this guy was. This has been said a million times, this story.
Starting point is 00:49:45 But he says, don't you think that people are going to confuse that with rocking chairs? Oh, my God. He literally thought that. No. Country rockers. They will. Yeah. Got me a country rocker.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It's the top of the line rocking chair, boy. It's got padding on the seat. That's what you'd imagine. It came with the cushions. I don't know, guys. I think the people are going to confuse it with rocking chairs. And he goes, what? They're like It came with the cushions. He said, I don't know, guys. I think the people are going to confuse it with rocking chairs. And he goes, what? They're like, no, they're not.
Starting point is 00:50:07 We're going to have like fucking Judas Priest music when we come out. There'll be fire and black leather and shit. They came out. They had like these tiger stripes and shit and like, you know, fucking bandanas hanging all off of them in different colors. They're not. They're 19 years old, 19 and 24 years old. No.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So he's like, they're like, we think we think it'll be good we really think everyone will understand just saying let us try it so they do yeah they become the midnight rockers uh they participate in the wrestle rock uh extravaganza at the at the minneapolis yeah at the uh not the superdome the goddamn met Metrodome. Metrodome. They participate in that and they also, if you have, we've said it a million times before, if you have not listened to it, do yourself a favor
Starting point is 00:50:51 and find the Wrestle Rock Rumble and listen. Oh, it's on YouTube. It's on YouTube, all right. And Sean and Marty have their very own verse in the Wrestle Rock Rumble. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:51:02 But it's something like, fuck, what was it? It's so painful. were they the two that jumped in the pool no that was kurt hennig and scott hall all right these two look like they're at a children's birthday party there's like balloons and it looks like teenage girls but like not 19 yeah they look like they're like 14 like some ninth grader had a pizza party birthday party and they were like the rockers might show up. I sent him a letter.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And the midnight rockers showed up. It's weird, dude. It's like, I'm Sean and something about something about Marty. We like to wrestle and we love to party or some shit. They did do. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. They were writing Marty and Party.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Oh, my God. And it's bad, dude. Sean Michaels, not a good rapper. Oh, I'm sure of that. I mean, Marty makes him. Marty's not good either, but Shawn is maybe the worst rapper in history. There's old ladies in movies rapping better than him from the 90s. Put it that way.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It's fucking bad. Oh, my God. It's embarrassing, dude. It's embarrassing. So this is kind of around the time they start their big feud here with a couple of guys. And I need you to get your Google out, Jimmy Westman. Got it. I need you to look up these gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I have to put my glasses on. You need to see the physiques of these particular gentlemen that they fight. I love that so much because the 80s wrestlers did not look like wrestlers. Some of them look like chiseled from stone. And then some of them look like your uncle that you just found in the shower. And you're like, oh, uncle, put your pants on. Well, they fight. They start a feud, the two of these guys, with Playboy Buddy Rose, who look up now.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And the physique. Now, he was a great wrestler and known as he's a legendary guy. But he got fat and that wasn't good. Did you find him here? I see him sitting on the top rope and then then I click it, and the internet sucks. He's a blonde, chunky guy. And then pretty boy, Doug Summers. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Oh, boy. Those are some great tits. He's got awesome tits. Nice nipples on them. He's got very nice nipples. Oh, they're beautiful. Aren't they nice? My word.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. If you found those on a lady, you'd be like, hey, look at you. I'm tonguing those. No, that's what I'm saying. Then look up pretty boy, Doug Summers. Okay. summers okay oh my god he's one of the ugliest men ever doug summers and he calls himself pretty boy yeah that was the joke a fat guy named play boy and an ugly guy named pretty boy pretty boy and uh but ricky wait what is it who is it doug summers s-o-m-e-r-s and check that out jimmy oh boy yeah he looks like he looks like a child molester one looks
Starting point is 00:53:25 like your nice fat uncle and the other looks like your uncle whose house you're not allowed to go over that's what they look like oh he's got a frown yeah oh what a frown on this man he's so mad so these guys started a feud and somehow wrestling like anything else chemistry is a thing yeah and chemistry with these two teams was insane. And they put on these great matches. Really? And when I was seven and just turning eight years old, this is what got me interested in wrestling. Seeing this on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And when they had matches, I hung watching on this storyline every day after school waiting for more about these guys' fight. I don't know what it was. I was just very intrigued by it. Maybe because they were young. So I was like, oh, that's cool. they don't look like someone's dad no you know what i'm saying like they look like like high school guys or something something's happening with playboy's face too he looks like it looks photoshopped he's like 12 his face yeah he's like yeah he's very blonde and they're both very blonde yeah yeah well it's bleached too yeah
Starting point is 00:54:22 one of them looks like he's flat ironing it though play boy used to be a was a one of the best like best workers in the business known as in the 70s late 70s early 80s and then his weight just got a little out of control and he was still really good yeah and uh yeah it was amazing he could do a kip up you know what that is when you're on your back and you kick yourself up at that weight that fat man could do that he could do one that's impressive it was fucking impressive to see you're like how the hell does he do that so you're like he must have been a an athlete at some point so and he was here so uh they fight they have all of these they have a really bloody match on espn really which fucking bloodbath everybody's covered in blood and me at
Starting point is 00:55:01 eight was like this is amazing yeah this is the greatest thing i've ever seen in my life uh they have a steel cage match on christmas night in and st paul it's a very bloody match again uh and uh at this point too they get their own wrestling figures oh that's awesome which is cool they have these are their first wrestling figures uh the awa figures they're these remco brand and they have like the same bodies yeah that's him down there that's not bad no uh they have doug summers yeah he's an ugly bastard but that's i mean from the back he looks great in a wrestling figure because it's not his face no no his face is fucking hideous so they get these figures they're like kind of the body of the esp of the uh he-man figures kind of like those little fucking eyes yeah yeah within the arms move and shit, but
Starting point is 00:55:46 whatever. So, they had those figures. They barely released this one. They're, like, extremely rare. The Marty Jannetty figure, we'll talk about it later, is worth, like, hundreds of dollars on eBay now, even out of the box. Really? It's a minimum 200 bucks. It's crazy, yeah. Why is that? It's just that rare. They make a lot of them, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Incredible. They make a lot of them. So, finally, January 27th, 1987 uh at a at a regular house show not not even on tv in minnesota they finally beat buddy rose and doug summers to win the tag team titles oh yeah become a big deal and that's a it's a big deal for them to find they had this this feud for like seven months before they win the titles uh grace we'll say grace right now uh grace for the personal reasons we'll talk about grace for this uh they were interesting guys at this point let's talk about some of the shit they were doing outside of the ring uh first of all uh groupies were crazy at this point sure there was they said guys like them would have women
Starting point is 00:56:44 literally lined up down a hallway at a hotel really and they would just call in who they wanted and they come in three four at a time if they felt like they were like rock stars it's insane like disgusting shit him and sean michael him and sean michael's the two of them guys of that elk you know the rock and roll express of the same kind of setup now what these guys would do they're known as particular ribbers and dicks michaels and uh and marty genetti what they would do is and're known as particular ribbers and dicks, Michaels and Marty Jannetty. What they would do is, and this is horrible, and you'd go to prison for 20 years if you did this now. They used to get these girls who wanted to go back to the hotel room with them and fuck them.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Oh, they didn't. And they used to fucking, well, these are girls that wanted to fuck them. They'd be like, yeah, come on back to my room. They would drug these women. They would drug them and fuck them and stuff but that's not enough they drugged them not to fuck them because they wanted to fuck them anyway they drugged them so they could like shave half their head and write shit on them in magic marker and leave them in the hallway naked with their jizz all over them that's what they would do that's horrible that was their game that they played hilarious haha game that they played yeah exactly again sarcastic much like killing a holocaust survivor or barbecuing somebody's dog and putting it in soup that's what i mean this is
Starting point is 00:57:56 on that level this is on that level of psychotic behavior psychotic you wouldn't you would go to prison for how long for that oh god jesus i mean and you would deserve it and you'd be imagine a famous person did that to somebody now they would be if you did that and yeah not expecting i'm going to jail tomorrow and and and genetti has told stories about doing this firsthand and every wrestler from that era has tall yeah the rockers christ you'd walk down the hall and you'd see one of theirs laying out in the hallway out cold with her half her head shaved with mad you know shit written in magic marker all over her face naked in a hallway you think that women that were like fucking disgusting today are like 60 70 years old had it bad and they did women that were 20 years old in the 80s oh god or fuck they well yeah if
Starting point is 00:58:40 they wanted to hang around famous people yeah oh my god not just famous people they were treated like shit by normal by normal read any read any rock stars memoirs from the 80s and it's just horrible it's atrocity after atrocity after criminal atrocity criminal actions not just morally wrong look this is criminal criminally wrong thing that was going on here it's unbelievable the drugging the fucking wild drug right the venice like shaving so there's so many crimes going on here god both punitive and legal like it's just insane so this is a type of fun these guys were having back then but they were so the women were so just available that that's they just didn't even i don't even want to fuck them anymore i'm just gonna fuck fuck with them basically i'll fuck them with that it's no fun if i don't shave half their head and dump them in a hallway right i don't understand the mentality if this woman's
Starting point is 00:59:31 goodly enough to have sex with you it's downright kind it's right neighborly i would say you should at that point probably be nice to them at least for the duration of the time you're with them then a better idea try to make them come and then uh yeah and then separate that's nice jimmy i'm not going for fucking you know man of the year i'm not going for man of the year here i'm going for legal i'm going for legal intercourse that's it i'm not talking wanting she wants to come back for more going for no handcuffs at the end of this can we make this not a felony that's all i'm working on here can we make this sex not a felony so that i can leave tomorrow like yeah and and judges and cops don't have a problem with it oh
Starting point is 01:00:19 my god they're not gonna want me to hang around so jesus christ he they're they're obviously uh feeling themselves a little bit at this point oh boy they're into their success they're doing great in the awa uh they're champions and uh they they also they're at super clash 2 which is the awa's attempt at wrestlemania super clash they did the first one one and it was in comiskey park and like 30 something thousand people showed up great show they did two two years later in in uh in uh the cow palace in san francisco and 2200 people showed up in a 20 000 seat arena ouch and it is the saddest thing you've ever seen in your fucking life that echoes super dude super clash 2 is sad it's just sad it's a heading heading beats Bockwinkle for the title. They have all these great matches.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Supposedly, all these feuds are culminating, and nobody's there to see it. How does the theater not go, listen, guys, show's in a couple of days. It's booked, man. We're 18,000 short. It is what it is. We only hold 20. I've heard about worse than that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I've heard of hundreds showing up at the Omni, which holds 20,000 people for wrestling, and they would have literally 400 people would show up. And I was like, how do you even sit them all together? I mean, at that point, you just wander everybody out into the ring and apologize, right? I would think every match you go, hey, guys, how you doing? Sorry. It's one thing if it's 400 in a 500 seater, like a little building. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:01:48 You could literally do moves for each individual person there. Tommy, this one's for you. Hey, Tommy. T-bone. But 20,000 seat could give everybody their own section almost. It's crazy. So yeah, they end up though wrestling there so over the course of like the last year they were in awa sean michaels in his book said that he and marty genetti made
Starting point is 01:02:12 39 000 each in their first year in the uh and yeah in the awa which for for him he was like he was 19 20 years old sean michaels he was like awesome he said he got himself a 300 zx he was excited he got himself a car yeah he was jacked so but you also have to consider wrestlers pay their own expenses like flights are paid for if they have to go somewhere far but then you get there your rental car your hotel you have all that's out of your pocket so out of 39 000 yeah it's it's comedy it's fast it's so comedy it's not even funny where you're like well basically you live on your write off yeah you know you've made 12 grand yeah and yeah so you have to anyway so uh at one point here while they're they're about to go to the wwe for a minute uh but before this it is marty's birthday at one point okay it is uh february obviously february 3rd and it's marty's birthday
Starting point is 01:03:02 and uh sean michaels is going to get him a little present okay now it's before a television taping and it's where they do interviews basically they have they tape all the matches and then they have a studio where they have the backdrop with the company name and a guy with a microphone on so you're going to be wrestling this guy this saturday and they go i'm going to kick his ass the interview area with a coconut exactly exactly do the interview area here and in this area they. Exactly. Do the interview area here. And in this area, they send, they have all the wrestlers there. It's Marty's birthday.
Starting point is 01:03:29 So Sean hires a stripper slash prostitute to come and service Marty at the station. So apparently what ends up happening is, and this is in the middle of the interviews, they send this woman in. While he's being interviewed about his match. Pretty much, yeah. While that's going on. And she takes off all her clothes. And they said she had a little boom box and everything.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And she played it. She brought her own little show with her. And she played it. And she took off her clothes and stripped. I think we're alone now. Alone now. This is doing Tiffany. Doesn't seem to be any.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I think it's more of a Debbie Gibson experience isn't it? either one it doesn't matter both of them were on Playboy 2 no I know I know and I owned both of them well Debbie Gibson's more innocent so it'd be funnier yeah it'd be funnier I think
Starting point is 01:04:18 yeah I guess so Tiffany was fucking on a canal beach yeah Tiffany had like a and she was doing that 60 like a on a canal canal beach yeah tiffany had like a and she was doing that 60s song about fucking about teenagers fucking debbie gibson's like 48 she still hasn't made a song about fucking probably you know what i'm saying she just seemed she was like pretty blossom basically like i'm gonna put a hat on and go to the mall like it was just weird very strange baggy shirt yeah so this woman comes in she puts on uh electric blue or whatever the
Starting point is 01:04:46 fuck debbie gibson song she wants to listen to there she puts that on and starts you know doing her thing and uh and then she ends up blowing marty oh my god in the studio now the thing is here that everybody kind of cleared out when this was going on they cleared out of the studio but they're not cleared out completely. They're all in the control room because the camera's still running. The camera's still running for the interview, so they're just watching Marty get a blowjob
Starting point is 01:05:12 and commenting on it and cheering on it and all this type of shit. Okay. So, yeah, this was... Happy birthday. First of all, why guys want to see another guy get blown, I'll never understand.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I'll never understand. Hey, Marty's getting blown. Let's never understand. Hey, Marty's getting blown. Let's watch. No. I'll never understand hiring a hooker and then being like, can we stand by? That's what I mean. I don't understand that. Anything that she's going to do right now.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Somewhere out there, though, is footage of Marty Jannetty being blown by a prostitute with the AWA backdrop in the background, which is beyond priceless. With the AWA backdrop in the background. Which is beyond priceless. Anybody who worked for them back then. If you're not dead or whatever. God if you have this footage. Please put it out there somewhere. I have upwards of $60 for you for that day.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Blur her out. I don't want to see anything. I don't want to see any of it. I just want to know it exists. This is some debaucherous shit. In a nice midwestern office here so it turns out verne ganya's daughter uh who has also kind of worked in the company there ended up uh coming in shortly after that and hearing what happened and didn't get well didn't didn't feel too good about it didn't want uh basically did not want sexual acts
Starting point is 01:06:22 taking place in the television studio weird you know and uh she was a little conservative i guess i mean strange so uh wrestling stars getting blown at work yeah i mean so marty got in trouble for that but it doesn't matter because they're trying to get out of there anyway verngania tries to hold them with contracts they tries to make everyone sign these two-year contracts he's basically going on a downhill journey to out of business land in about three years. Oh, boy. So he's trying to get all... Basically, he's good at making new talent and bringing them in, Vergania.
Starting point is 01:06:52 He'll do that. They get popular, like the Midnight Rockers, and the WWF goes, I'll take that guy, that guy, and that guy. And they pluck them out, and you're left with shit. So that's what they were doing. So he's trying to lock everybody down with contracts, including the Midnight Rockers, and they end up going to the WWF and not signing that contract. Really?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Kind of pisses Vern Gagne off. They burn a bridge there. So they better be successful in WWF. And they're not at first. Let's see what happens here. They have a bad reputation. They're known as partiers and ribbers. And they're getting blown in front of the television camera and stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:23 That gets around the business. It's a gossipy business, just like sure it's the same thing so uh they're known as this they have a reputation coming in that these guys you know or like people will talk to them when they first get there and be like hey i know you guys are you guys got to keep it down a little bit here and you can't be as crazy here no open blow job yeah they're like shit but in their mind they did nothing any crazier than anybody else because everybody's insane back then in wrestling i mean there's guys cooking dogs up and feeding the people like this is mild doesn't mr fuji work here and he did the whole time like what the fuck are we talking about here relax so uh yeah so they're in buffalo new york for a tv taping it's their first their first big tv taping for for w, and they're going to go, you know, that'll air and whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:07 So this is also, by the way, their first day there, and the company is the first day that the WWF begins drug testing. Oh, no. Yeah, this is the first day. So they walk in day one to a big meeting of, you know, we can't have this shit anymore. This was a month after the Iron Sheik and Hacksaw Jim Duggan got arrested together with Coke in the car. So there's a good guy and a bad guy with Coke. All of these things are bad. So open containers, a little bit of weed.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So they begin this drug testing this day. And guys basically don't think that they're humble enough. They think that they're cocky. They think that they're high on themselves. And they are. Rightfully so, too, kind of. Yeah, that's true. They think that they're high on themselves. And they are. Rightfully so, too. Kind of. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:08:47 But the WWF was one of these. It was a they call it. All the wrestlers say that was always a shark tank, basically. Like everybody eats each other alive. It's very competitive. The guys are huge. All of them. And the guys are trying to.
Starting point is 01:09:00 A lot of guys are trying to bury you to get above you. Back in the day, it was a very competitive environment. And they said they didn't think that they were humble enough. They would come in and like wrestling's got a weird thing where they all they all before and after every show back in the day, they'd all have to shake each other's hands. Whenever you come into the locker room, whoever's there, you go around all of them and shake hands with them before and after that. Even if you're on the same tour. That's how you get COVID. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:24 So, yeah. Can you imagine now doing that? Hey, get the fuck away from me dude this job uh but imagine having that in comedy imagine if every time you went to like somebody went to the comedy store you were you had to go say hello to this comic and that comic and they had to have them ignore you and treat you like shit that's the thing those the wrestlers would shake your hand and say something these comments be like who the fuck are you right so comics are a little bit different so uh yeah so uh they right away are like whoa this is a weird vibe like guys guys don't seem to like us and i don't know
Starting point is 01:09:54 what to do about this so they try to kind of stay away from the guys to they think to you know not get in trouble whereas all that does is piss everybody off more that they think they're too good for us now. Basically, whatever you do, they're going to find a way to say it's negative. Until you're there a while, you pay your dues and everybody gets used to you. That's the way it is.
Starting point is 01:10:12 You could walk in, the greatest guy in the world, humble as shit, bringing everybody donuts, and they'd be like, who does he fucking think he is with these donuts? It's just, it's... One of those glazed?
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah, one of those fucking guys. What a jerk. What a jerk. So they say they stay at a different hotel than the rest of the guys to so they don't run into anybody uh so they're told by a guy in the office that they should go out to the bar with the rest of the guys that night go down be seen have a couple of drinks hang out show that you're not above anybody and everybody will think you're fine and whatever so they go out and they said it was crazy because these are all a bunch of the big
Starting point is 01:10:45 you know wrestlers of the time and all these famous guys and everything and they end up getting into a long story short they get into a little thing with a guy named jimmy jack funk who's a kind of a second level he's not related to terry funk he was just they used him as a third brother as a cousin in a tag team the worst yeah jimmy jack, by the way, when I was eight, I had a nightmare that he was in my closet. I swear to God. It's a terrible dream. Yeah, he had this kind of like Lone Ranger mask and a hat, and he came to the
Starting point is 01:11:14 ring with a noose. Oh my God. Yeah, as an eight-year-old, I don't know why. He's not a good guy to be in my closet. Yeah, and he was a shit guy. Anybody would beat him. He was a loser. He was a jobber, but as a child, I remember waking up at eight thinking he was in my closet was a jobber but you know as a child i had i remember waking up at eight thinking he was in my closet and checking to make sure he wasn't in there so this guy comes over and he says i hear you guys are big partiers and all this and this
Starting point is 01:11:34 is sean michaels version of the story so i hear you guys are big partiers and all this and you know whatever so he said can you do this and jimmy jack funk Jimmy Jack Funk bites a piece out of the glass he's holding. Oh, my God. With his mouth. Yeah. That's not partying, man. So, Shawn Michaels takes a glass and breaks it over his head. Like, there, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Great, there. I'm crazy. Wonderful. Like, just trying to, he said, quell the thing. Like, yeah, great. That's cool. And now he's bleeding. So, apparently, Jimmy Jack Funk got pissed off over all of this.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And there's all these rumors that they end up leaving the bar and there's all these rumors flying around that marty and sean tore up the bar oh they tore it all up the next day they go in to uh to do tv taping and they're at the cafe in the cafeteria getting food and jimmy jack funk comes up to him and he says oh so you think you're a big fucking star? And he starts yelling at Marty saying, I hear you guys said I'm nobody and you're going to be big stars and all this shit. And so Marty's like, I don't know what you're talking about. You know, I don't understand this. So they went out, they did their match.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And as they're leaving, Vince McMahon stops them and, you know, tells them not to party anymore. Straighten out and calm down. And I heard what would happen. And they were just like, it won't happen again. You know, they're scared of Vince. He comes in. pal how you doing you know he's a i'm gonna tell you one thing so uh uh yeah so they think okay everything's fine the next day they come in and vince fires them the very next day he gets what they get fired they get a phone call saying that they're fired and that's that um he says you know what you guys did was wrong they end up like
Starting point is 01:13:03 paying their own way to go to a go meet with vince and say plead their case and he goes oh well it all sounds great and all and maybe that's true but i gotta fire you basically fire he said nobody likes you here um and they're not going to accept you now so maybe next maybe in the future we could try again but have a good one guys so they gave up their whole gig oh no and now they had now they're fucked because now they just lost this big job that they have here so not a good thing so they gave up their whole gig oh no and now they had now they're fucked because now they just lost this big job that they have here so not a good thing so they end up in alabama yeah not where you want to be even back then in wrestling it was kind of dying the fullers down there they said they made 700 a week a piece that's not bad it's okay for the 80s uh but that
Starting point is 01:13:40 only lasted a little a little while before the territory couldn't afford to pay their guarantee. Apparently, they have an incident according to Shawn Michaels' book here. The reason why they leave here is that there's an autograph signing, and a girl asked Shawn to sign her denim jacket for him and turns around so he could sign the back shoulder. And he instead writes, I am a dyke on her jacket. Oh, you asshole. To a teenage girl why would you do that not cool no she was like you know oh my god she's losing her mind yeah to see this guy and he does that because he's a dick yeah he's the same dick who throws fucking naked
Starting point is 01:14:14 women in the hallway so i guess she's lucky she's still got her hair yeah and not a cock drawn on her face and her dignity yeah she can always throw the jacket out jacket out. So apparently the guy running the promotion here got mad at Shawn Michaels and said, you can't fucking do that, and said, you guys are going to have to leave. You're going to get fired. Here's your two weeks notice. And they said, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:14:33 We're leaving anyway. So they leave there, too. So they're kind of shit out of luck here. Vern Gagne ends up taking them back into the AWA because at least there's known, and everybody is fleeing the AWA like it's on fire. There's there's nobody left it's bad stuff and it's a lesser pay i'm sure of it because they're desperate they are yeah that's the thing they're the shows in the awa now are drawing nothing you go to a show and there's you know there's 800 people there there's
Starting point is 01:14:57 nobody there so they're not making any money uh they have a little feud with the uh the original midnight express in awa with paul hayman involved in that thing they work in a little drop in memphis as bad guys actually they turn them heel which is weird uh but they're fighting the rock and roll express so they're it's like bizarro yeah it's like they're like the bizarro rock and roll express basically like you could look at them like almost like uh superman right that's what it was bizarroro. Luigi and Waluigi. Yeah, exactly. So finally, they end up being accepted back into the AW, or I'm sorry, the WWF.
Starting point is 01:15:32 WWF takes them back, and this time they're there for an extended run. As a matter of fact, Shawn Michaels never leaves. He fucking still works for them. He doesn't wrestle anymore. No, but he still makes money. He's still there, yeah, in the payroll at some way, shape, or form.
Starting point is 01:15:45 So they wrestle a lot of matches, and they're way smaller than a lot of the guys that's what you have to look at these guys are 230 tops wwf in the late 80s is they're all huge everybody's big even the other tag teams they a big boss man and akim are a tag team they're like you know 800 pounds combined weight and all this shit they're huge guys so. So it's really hard for them to establish themselves there. They have to really be good as a team and make quick moves and all that kind of shit. So they never really get in the championship picture to be tag team champions until finally in 1990, they say they're going to give the Rockers. By the way, they dropped the midnight and just called them the Rockers in the wwf that's what the blue and silver shit on their chest well later on they have no they they have like their it's very fluorescent at this point they
Starting point is 01:16:35 wear like you know fuchsia or bright lime green spandex with all sorts of bandanas tied around their wrists the ultimate warrior minus face paint. Yeah, kind of, but just more like flashier, less. The warrior had like a different thing. Their stuff was more like, hey, look at me. I just, you know, a Duran Duran video just exploded, and here I am, you know? The things on their arms were fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yeah. The things that they'd tie tassels and stuff. Tassels, and they had around their wrists, they had wristbands and bandanas and all sorts of accessories and this was the point where sean michaels had like huge puffy bleached yeah like frosted blonde fucking puffy hair oh like a mane yeah i bet he wished he had that now he's looking at that just going man if only i shouldn't have dyed it so much and it wouldn't have just broken off why'd i I do it? Then I took a nap and it all fell off in my sleep. And then my eye started going in a weird direction, which is strange. When did Shawn Michaels' eye get crooked?
Starting point is 01:17:32 Wrestling fans, I don't know, because I kind of got out of it in 2000 or so. Was it after that? When did his eye kind of crook a little bit? Because if you see him now, you're like, holy shit. Do you think it's brain damage or do you think it's like retinal tear? retinal tear no clue but it is like there is one just looking another he's looking at georgia with one eye and fucking michigan with the other and i'm like how do you do that maybe too many tag team matches one eye was watching each dude i guess man so 1990 uh they are set to win the titles this is a big deal here they have a match with the Hart Foundation
Starting point is 01:18:06 it's a two out of three falls match that is Jim the Anvil Neidhart by the way and Bret Hart and what they do is they're set to win the match midway through the first fall the rope breaks the top rope breaks in the ring and they don't fix it
Starting point is 01:18:20 they just keep wrestling they try to work out a match around this shit to do this. And this is taped for TV to show that they won the belts. And at the end, they win the belts. And they decide not to show the match because it's too shitty because the rope broke. And they don't get the belts. They take the belts back, give them back to the Hart Foundation. And they're like, yeah, maybe later.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And then they never give them to him again. Oh, those bastards. So they got fucked just because a rope broke. It had nothing to do with them. This is what I mean. Marty is just cursed. Yeah. Some things are his own thing doing.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And some things, I mean, you're just, you come up in a white trash shit, alcoholic family can't help that. Some things happen. You can't help at all. You can help dumping a girl out into the hallway, but you can't help this. He's a self saboteur. But don't worry. The world hates you too, Marty.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Yeah. It's like, if the world don't get me, I get my fucking self i know it's all coming so yeah they never got they never got it again so december 1990 comes around and this this is not good yeah uh there's a wrestler named chuck austin uh he was a construction worker and he got into wrestling in 1990 and he uh he did was wrestling you know small territories and things for about six months just learn and he probably had 20 matches or something like that not a lot of experience and they hire him in the wwf to be a job guy and on tv back in the day they'd have matches where the good wrestlers would beat up the job wrestlers beat up the you know lower guys they'd have two minute matches and it would show the you know the the stars would get to use their finishing move and it would show
Starting point is 01:19:49 off how impressive they were they'd roll the other guy out of the fucking ring and you'd never hear from him again and they just hire a bunch of guys as meat for this new guys basically and that's chuck austin he's just you know he's meat and uh yeah he was working a construction job and he started wrestling in 1990 he did a little time in a wrestling school and so he finally there's they have an event in tampa at the sun dome the tv taping and he's there and it's him and mart and uh randy savage's brother lanny pafo the genius as a tag team him and shuck austin they're they're gonna lose to the rockers okay now what ends up happening the rockers have a finishing move called the rocker dropper,
Starting point is 01:20:27 and it's Marty Jannetty's finishing move always. What this is, is, I'll try to explain this to you. If I took your arm and, like, twisted it like an arm wringer and they stand there like that. Okay. Not behind the back, not like a hammer rock. Right, right. It's out to the side.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Out to the side, yeah, okay. But I twist it over and then I'm stomping my feet, acting like it hurts like hell. Exactly. Now, I have you like that. You're bent over. You're bent at the waist over with your arm out like that. Now, I would take my leg and jump up with my leg behind your head and drop on top of you to the ground.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You fall on your face. You know what I'm saying? So I would do that. You do a flat flop on your face and doodle land on top of you. Kind of like a reverse leg drop, but from the arm bar. Marty gets to jump up and it looks cool. And then when the guy's down, Sean will jump off the top rope and hit him with something. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And that's the end of the match. That's their big finish. That's a big one. It's spectacular. It looks cool. Shoom. Bang. He falls.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Flips a new guy. Sean. Bang. It's cool. That's what they did a lot they did a lot of teamwork a lot of uh i tag you you go up to the top rope i hold him you do this tag back in do this shit very entertaining to watch quick shit okay like holds up now you could watch rockers matches now and go that's pretty exciting actually still it's still still
Starting point is 01:21:39 fun and there's a crowd there so you might want to watch them actually rather than wrestlemania so anyway um the way you're supposed to do this is you're supposed to fall directly flat on your face. Right. Call it a pancake bump. It's a splash. Yeah, you're supposed to just go straight down, and the guy takes care of you on the upside. This guy didn't do that. This guy instead tried to dive and do a roll forward, which made him basically dive with
Starting point is 01:22:07 his head straight into the canvas. Oh, with fucking Marty's legs coming right behind. Yeah. Rather than go flat, he tried to take a roll with it. And he literally I mean, you can see it. He just drove his head directly into the fucking ring as hard as you can do it. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Breaks his neck. Oh, shit. Broken neck. Now, at the time, they don't know his neck is broken uh they can't have no way of knowing because he's supposed to act like he's fucking out anyway so unless they know the guy or nowadays they have a different thing after a big move now they everybody they have a little thing where they tell yeah they squeeze you they have a little thing the ref will come over make them squeeze just so i'm good just to let you know hey that
Starting point is 01:22:43 was that went the way it's supposed to. This is me pretending to be hurt type of thing or whatever. So that happens. They don't know it. So Shawn Michaels then jumps off the top rope onto him, then rolls him over to pin him because he's on his stomach. Rolls him over to pin him. This is all with broken neck.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Doing more damage. As he rolls him, you can see his legs don't turn yeah his legs get wrapped up together as if you you know what i mean he's paralyzed yeah if you were rolling over your legs would go they'd stay straight and they'd go over but his legs just roll together yeah because he has no control over them jesus uh by the way this is for 150 his job is just to take this to lose $150. And yeah, that's what happens to this guy. Not a lot of wrestling experience and things like that. He caused injury to his fourth, fifth, and sixth vertebrae to be badly damaged. He was, yeah, he could have taken it any other way, but he took it the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:23:43 He says, quote, when I hit the mat, I knew my neck was broken and that I was paralyzed. That's what Chuck Austin said. And he laid on the mat, and for a while, they didn't know anything was wrong. Then when he wasn't moving,
Starting point is 01:23:55 the referee noticed he wasn't moving, went over. Obviously, he's not okay. So they called in the paramedics. Hell, yeah. Now we got a show. It takes a while, though, for this to all have show.
Starting point is 01:24:05 They didn't air that at all. No, but I mean, the people that are there are like, oh, this is awesome. This is real. Yeah. So they pull him out of there. And yeah, later on, he'll end up getting out of a wheelchair, but he'll have to walk with crutches. He's in horrible pain.
Starting point is 01:24:19 For years, he can't control his bowels or bladder very well. Oh, God, Jesus. And has pain all over his body, obviously. For the rest of his life. For the rest of his fucking life. Yeah, over this incident. Wow. Marty didn't.
Starting point is 01:24:31 This isn't his fault. I mean, he did the move like he did the move to everybody else a million times. This guy didn't know how to take the move. And we'll talk about it. There'll be a court battle about it. I hope so. You know, Marty says, told him not to take it. Said, fucking same way I told everybody to take it. Flat, on your face and that's it's easiest thing in the world and the
Starting point is 01:24:48 guy didn't do it like that and so i don't know i mean he might have thought and the thing is the guy might have thought maybe it'll be more spectacular for me if i if i do a flip and that's that's what the or we could or i don't know somebody could have told him the wrong way to do it but i don't know why they would do that. Well, he's probably... Nobody wants anybody's neck to get broken, so you wouldn't tell anybody to take it different. But he's trying to figure out spectacularly my arm's twisted.
Starting point is 01:25:12 If I roll with it... Yeah, it might be cool. ...it unrolls the arm, and I get slammed. It'll look cool as shit. I get it. Yeah, I'm trying to make my name rather than listen to people
Starting point is 01:25:21 and tell you how not to get hurt. Well, how else does the arm unroll? That's probably in his head what he's doing yeah but it's when he fucking yeah because as he lets go as they fall so that's how it works so maybe who knows uh so obviously this is you know marty said he feels bad about this but he he didn't also because people were blaming wwf and blaming him in particular he's like i fucking told him what to do and that's just if you can't take a fucking simple move that ain't my problem basically like feel bad you're hurt but i didn't do it to you i didn't do anything wrong you did something wrong that's the other
Starting point is 01:25:52 thing too if you hurt a guy and it's your fault you better be nice to him afterwards but if they did something wrong it's really not your fault kind of thing the other part that scares me is sean michaels coming off the top rope while you're laying on your stomach neck that could break your goddamn back oh yeah yeah yeah i mean normally he does it's a working thing and he does it so he doesn't hurt you but if he hits you a little bit while your vertebrae are damaged you're fucking it's fucking shatter oh yeah he could have been could have been even worse oh boy crazy so they go on uh the rockers start to have a little problems amongst themselves more Sean and Marty. They've been traveling together for five years.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Every day, in the car, on the plane, same hotel room, matches. They want to kill each other. Oh, my God, same hotel room. Same hotel room. And this is with also drinking and partying every night. So you're going to have beefs that you don't even know about over drinking. So one night, they're all hanging out out and it comes to a head they're in a hotel room and sean michaels tells a little bit of the story in his autobiography that uh
Starting point is 01:26:50 rowdy rowdy piper was fucking with the guys yeah he likes to wind up the young guys of course he does and he was fucking with the guys and he had michaels and genetti there and he saw their team so he told michaels yeah and it was true but he was doing it just to fucking rib genetti he told michaels that obviously uh that he said sean's the i think a guy like him's the future of the business whereas i don't see anything in marty over here right so he was he's a maniac he was just doing it and sean apparently was taking this seriously like oh really tell me more yeah so it pissed marty off so marty said he wanted to fight sean now i'm gonna fuck you up and sean didn't want to fight
Starting point is 01:27:23 really because sean's not a real fighter. Sean, over the course of his career, gets beat up on the outside of wrestling so many times it's not even funny. By people at bars. He's always getting his ass kicked. Like guys with day jobs. Oh, yeah. A group of Marines at one point. Pulled him out of a fucking car and beat the shit out of him.
Starting point is 01:27:43 That's awesome. So, anyway anyway it didn't matter this this big fight breaks out in a fucking inside the room and it spills into the hallway and into the lobby of the hotel sean and marty tag team partners beating the shit out of each other and we're talking about drunk grown men fighting they're both covered in blood their shirts have blood their pants have blood all over them and they're in the lobby of a decent hotel. They're in like the Marriott lobby having an all out brawl, right?
Starting point is 01:28:09 Blood in their shoes with Roddy Piper and Randy Savage looking on as we'll talk about Roddy Piper's watching this. The cops show up to arrest them for fighting in the lobby of a hotel like maniacs, right? They start cuffing them. Randy Savage runs up macho man randy savage who if you if you're very young you might not know who he is but
Starting point is 01:28:30 he was as famous as you could get it's the slim jim guy yeah you know yeah slapping with slim jim like i mean he was as famous and he was so popular everyone knew him so he came in oh guys guys guy and all the cops were like oh shit it's the macho man is that macho man yeah they were all like oh cool so he goes guys guys fellas officers i gotta talk to you and he goes i can't tell you in front of that i can't talk to you in front of the people come over here outside of the crowd he goes he goes this is this is an angle he goes this is part of our work michael's quotes him saying this is part of our work we do storylines this is what we're doing here and the cops go they're both covered in blood yeah sometimes some british knights need to be filled with blood he said he said he goes you guys got to keep this to yourselves he goes but it's all
Starting point is 01:29:13 blood it's all fake it's all blood capsules he goes it's all blood capsules brothers he goes that's what we do out there you see a match he goes it's none of that's real he goes come on guys what are you thinking here and they're like really he goes yeah guys he goes please he goes don't tell anybody about this you're gonna blow the whole thing and this is how we make our living and guys and tell you what but this is not real this is all a big thing for for the ring they came over and they fucking undid the undid the cuffs i'm sorry i'm sorry they go oh no he goes i'll tell you what he goes guys you know get guys got kids i gotta give you all autographs so he's giving autographs for the whole police
Starting point is 01:29:48 force for this one's kid and give one to sergeant so and so he stood there for an hour signing autographs for these guys uh because they said yeah they get in there he said once the cops leave randy goes all right come on guys let's get let's go back up to the room and clean you guys up like you know good job basically you, take some arm around them. They get in the hotel. They get in the elevator. And Randy's like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Jesus goddamn Christ.
Starting point is 01:30:10 You're going to get fucking arrested. You're going to pull that shit out of my ass. You're lucky it worked. But how smooth is that? Those guys, guys. Shh. I've got to tell you something, brothers. This is secret stuff here.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Fucking great. So, yeah, let's give the next night or the next morning marty wakes up after this fight and i gotta do an in their own words on this one because this is this is fun uh we'll do in their own in their own words quote jesus christ i woke up the next morning i look over since i used to party a lot and i'm like oh man this is the ugliest girl ever she had pits all over her face come on man what man. What did you do? I'm thinking. Then they yawned and I looked and it was Roddy Piper.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Oh, no. What did I do? He took me to my room so he'd stay away from the fight. I love Roddy. He's my brother. But he thought that was the ugliest woman he ever slept with. Holy shit. Who is she?
Starting point is 01:31:01 What the fuck did I do? God, this is the biggest cock I've ever seen on a woman. He's got a five o'clock shadow on him. Honor. So, yeah. So over this whole thing, basically, Michaels wants to break up the tag team over this whole deal. And this is where you get the whole, you know, tag team breaking up. And basically, Marty says, well, let's quit here and let's go somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Let's go to WCW. There's a big discrepancy over Marty and Sean have completely different tellings of how they were going to do this. Sean says he told Marty he didn't want to leave. Marty says Sean told him that let's quit and go to WCW. So like Marty called to get something set up
Starting point is 01:31:40 and then they weren't quitting. Then when he got back to say, hey, we quit. Sean was already telling Vince, I'm staying. Marty's quitting. Then when he got back to say, hey, we quit, Sean was already telling Vince, I'm staying, Marty's quitting. Oh, damn it. So he's saying Sean backstabbed him and fucked him over. I'll bet that's true.
Starting point is 01:31:51 We don't know how true it is, but based on all of Sean Michael's behavior, I fucking believe it. Or he did something worse that resulted in this. Either one. Either way, one stayed, one went. It was bad.
Starting point is 01:32:00 So, no, no, one stayed and one, you know, basically they wanted to have him break up, do an angle where they break up as a tag team and have a big feud because Juan doesn't want to see that. That's the best feuds going. Yeah, that's fucking amazing. So they want to do that.
Starting point is 01:32:12 And basically they tell Marty, when this is all over, we should see Sean being a superstar and we see you being just kind of a middle of the pack guy. Enjoy. So Marty said, can I try to change your mind? And he said, sure thing pal go ahead yeah knock yourself out okay no no problem get in there get in there so uh um they end up breaking up and they do this famous angle uh with brutus beefcake he had this interview segment called the barber shop yeah had a big window barber shop window oh they do a thing where the rockers are arguing and
Starting point is 01:32:44 then they make up of course and then marty's like everything's fine everything's great and he's smiling and sean kicks him in the face and then throws him through the barbershop window perfect that's the angle of they're breaking up actually it's kind of a brilliant idea it's fucking great conversations happen all the time yeah and it was especially some that are going to anger people it's a great place to throw them through the window yeah it's Brutus Beefcake wasn't the one doing it. So they're going to have this big... This is set up to be a big thing for Marty, where if he does really well, he can establish
Starting point is 01:33:13 himself as a single star and everything's great. And then some problems happen. January 25th, 1992, he's at the Yucatan Liquor Stand which i mean obviously all the one of the finest establishments in all of tampa yeah obviously so god florida's trashy you know there was roosters running around out there everywhere did you know that they are fucking thriving in tampa right now of course there's no people that's what i mean they're taking over the streets you should have got rid of those motherfuckers when you had the chance now you're not gonna be able to drive they're gonna be taking over your restaurants thought you had an epidemic before yeah now you got fucking roosters oh it's creepy
Starting point is 01:33:52 they are gonna be real bad now i'm thinking about what about the rats in new york they must be fucking running a muck up there i'll bet you could the roosters are getting fucking you can almost ride one to work they're gonna get aggressive they are so big they're gonna get aggressive. They are so big. They're going to get aggressive because they're going to start. The tails are, fuck, James. They're taller than the heads now. Clean it up, Tampa. They ain't going to have it now. Christ almighty.
Starting point is 01:34:12 You're going to have to hire a rooster to clean up. You got to go through there with just a fucking, I don't even know. You're going to have to appease the roosters and give them a 401k because they can revolt and then it's all over. I guess so. I say you hire teenagers with a pickup truck and a golf cart and tell them to just go around hanging out the window playing fucking rooster golf. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Ba-bark! Ba-bark! Ba-bark! Why is that funny? That's cruel and terrible, but something about it. Something about some Florida kid going, I see one. Speed up. Come on, Chuck.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Speed up. I'm going to get him. Give me the five irons. Give me that pig. I knew that was true. Give me your good big Bertha. Hold on now. I need the Callaway for this one.
Starting point is 01:35:00 He's big. Give me the pitching wedge. I'm going to take his head clean off now. Got him. Give me the pitching wedge. We're going to take his head clean off now. Got him. Give me the pitching wedge. We're going to eat this one. We're going to eat him. He's a big one, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:35:10 So he's dodging roosters at the Yucatan Liquor Stand. Oh, Jesus. He is with a woman this night, a woman named Angela Elachi, I think her last name is. Probably. Elachi. Anyway, Angela. He's with Angela. Angela's 19 years old. Oh, God damn it. name is. Probably. Elachi. Anyway, Angela. He's with Angela. Angela's 19 years old.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Oh, goddammit. Which is crazy. It's fine, but it's legal. It's just not fine. It's not fine, and also, they're going to the Yucatan Liquor Stand, which doesn't sound like they let underage people in. He says she was a dancer at what he called a dollhouse, so she's a stripper. The dollhouse is a strip club in Tampa.
Starting point is 01:35:44 He says a dollhouse, so maybe one of the dollhouses. is a strip club in tampa but she says he says a dollhouse so maybe one of the dollhouses there may be several there may be a chain i could see it i'm not yeah it was one of it was north or south i don't know one of them one of them maybe clear water i'm not sure shit i don't know fort lauderdale version i don't know so he says he claims that he didn't know she was underage okay this is where his story kind of falls apart he claims she didn't know about he didn't know about the underage. Okay. This is where his story kind of falls apart. He claims she didn't know about he didn't know about the underage. She's like, well, I mean, she's a stripper, so she must be 21, 18 probably, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:14 So he says, and this is conflicting stories. He says that she used a fake ID to get into the bar and that, you know, a lot of people were there and it was crowded, and used her fake ID to get in, but started acting up in the bar, basically. Acting loud. Like a teenager that can't handle her booze? Like a teenager taken to the Yucatan Liquor Store. So, you know, he said they were having a good time,
Starting point is 01:36:45 and people might have known she was underage because Marty was there. They didn't care because you know marty's a famous wrestler and all this type of shit but uh uh the problem is that he there's also a conflicting story that says that they never even got in the door that she tried to get in with a fake id and got called on her shit and they got thrown out so we're not sure which one of those it is either way whether it's for no reason inside the bar or because her ID was rejected outside the bar, Angela starts acting a fucking fool and going crazy and making a scene and yelling at people and hitting people. And they were told they had to leave. So they said they were going to leave. And it's at this point, though, when they get out to the parking lot, the police are waiting for them. Of course they are.
Starting point is 01:37:25 And the police asked Angela for her I.D. And she didn't want to give it to them because she had a fake I.D., which is another charge. So she didn't want to give it to him. So the cop reached for her pocketbook and she tried to yank it away and turn away. And they threw her on the ground, as they do when you try to get away from them. Just a thing. This is on the ground as they do when you try to get away from them just a thing uh this is on you know on the concrete marty at this point claims that the cop grabbed her by the hair and banged her head off the road okay that's a marty claim so the cop fucking cracked her head
Starting point is 01:37:57 off the concrete one shot uh so he says that this was a big giant giant cop, too. Big guy, 240-pound guy, and this woman's like 100 pounds here. So he said this made him pissed off, so he tried to go pull the officer off of her, which is never okay. That's a bad idea. That's a bad idea. In real life, anybody but a cop in that situation, good idea. When a cop's doing it, that just means now they're going to beat you up, too. You're not going to win. Document it and go to his superior you're well there's no you don't have a phone back then oh good point that's the thing and it's your word versus his that's it he's bigger
Starting point is 01:38:33 he's gonna go you know what he does yeah this drunken asshole wrestler came up to me thought he was tough or whatever so he tried to pull it off of her uh pull the cop off of her two other cops were there and they saw mart, you know, touching a cop. So they jumped in. He said that he didn't hit any of them at all. He said, I didn't punch anybody. All I did was, quote, prevent them from beating me up. I don't know how you do that without hitting someone.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Is it just defense? I don't know if he, like, because he could probably hold them, I'm sure. Did he rope-a-dope them? Who knows? He's an amateur wrestler, too. He could could have probably yeah i mean they have their ways here uh he said the cops were quote a bunch of wimps and they couldn't do it and they got pissed off about it that's what they said so i don't know uh what that means about that um then he also said later on quote the tampa police department are a bunch of assholes
Starting point is 01:39:25 publicly you're lucky you didn't get shot you dipshit no shit so uh after they get everything under control they search them and of course marty's got a gram of cocaine on him and a twisted in a tied up shitty sandwich bag like we talked about last week like corner like like someone gave a sack of jizz of yeah i'm love after lockup so gross just a jizz sack full of coke um so um now marty claims that it was angela who got found with the gram of coke in her pocketbook but they both get charged with because possession of cocaine so they probably both had a little cocaine when they think uh yeah so it turns into a big fucking deal uh obviously uh they charge him all together with cocaine possession and also uh possession uh for assaulting a police officer as
Starting point is 01:40:14 well which not not you don't want to get charged with that that looks bad in court um so jesus christ this is fucking ridiculous eventually though when it goes to court, they they drop the assaulting a police officer thing because none of them had any marks on him or anything like that. He's instead charged with resisting arrest and obstruction of justice, which are both felonies. So that's something. No. And so he ends up in court a lot when he comes to court. At one point when he's in court, was a a bunch of people there and they all knew who he was and like even the lawyers asked him for autographs for their kids and shit
Starting point is 01:40:49 like that uh judge didn't like that no judge not into wrestling and judge had made statements to people that she was quote sick of pro wrestlers being portrayed as role models yeah when they were troublemakers he she thought so he lives in tamp for sure. She lives in Tampa around a lot of these guys. She's had enough of this shit. Yeah. So after all this, the Angela girl, she gets a slap on the wrist, gets a year of probation. I would call that a slap on the wrist.
Starting point is 01:41:15 That's it. Year of probation. Done. Possession? For possession and for all this whole thing. Now, Marty, on the other hand, he gets six months of community control. You, sir, may fuck off. Six months of community control you sir may fuck off yeah six months of community control which is like house arrest yeah uh but he couldn't go anywhere to her but to or from work
Starting point is 01:41:30 that's why it's control uh once that was over with he would be on probation for two and a half years wow that's a lot and also had to pay what he called just a shitload amount of fines and do 250 hours of community service. He got banged. Yeah, and also had to submit to a urine test every week for three months and then bi-weekly for another three months and then random testing for another two years. Sounds like that judge recognized him
Starting point is 01:41:55 as somebody that dropped her outside a hotel room door when she was in her 20s. She starts going, you can still see the outline of the Sharpie on my face. You can still see the cock written on my face. That a girl who's still still growing out half her hair yeah still a little shorter on one side than the other she is furious marty didn't help himself in court either afterwards yeah they said after the sentencing he said is there any way i'm going to get aids from this and the judge says what do you mean and he goes well i just got fucked that's pretty good it's pretty fucking funny though i like that very 1992 to say i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:42:33 get aids from this you just fucked me because you just raw dog the fuck out of me absolutely so once this happened he's released by the wwf yeah they say have a good one asshole he's on house arrest for six months you say, have a good one, asshole. He's on house arrest for six months. You can't travel around. You're useless to us. You're useless, and it's bad publicity. Lucky for him, though, by 1993, right back in the WWF, he's the most hired and fired guy probably in the history of the company, Mario Giannetti.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Something about him Vince likes for some reason. No matter what he does, no matter how bad he fucks up he has a he has a rest always brings him back it's just he always brings him back i don't know what it is because when marty you see interviews when he's contrite and humble he just comes across as just like this injured puppy like he's just like i don't know man i'm just trying to you know try my best and he just seems like he just needs help you just want to help this guy because he's a disaster i don't know what it is judge didn't see it that way she saw him as anything but that so uh when he comes back in 93 i'll go through this quickly they do a pretty cool thing with marty genetti saying that he can beat anybody and he's uh he's the intercontinental champion
Starting point is 01:43:38 sean michaels is by this time so he's turned into a big star he's got a belt and everything and he's you know michaels is saying in the ring saying he can beat anybody and all this shit so what they do is they send uh marty genetti in through the crowd pops out like he was in the crowd like can you beat me motherfucker and they're like oh shit it's him he had a guns and roses shirt on yeah so that's real yeah he had a guns and roses shirt on he comes out he's like hey what's up motherfucker yeah so uh something happens. He ends up hitting Sherry instead of Shawn Michaels.
Starting point is 01:44:07 And the way the whole thing breaks down, Sherry Martel. And so now this is a big feud. He actually ends up, well, we'll talk about it. They have all these great matches. They're supposed to have a singles match at the Royal Rumble, Jannetty and Michaels. They obviously should have good chemistry because they work together forever. They know each other. They have all these great matches leading up to
Starting point is 01:44:27 the pay-per-view and all these house shows where they're kind of practicing their match. It's going really well. Everybody's saying, man, this is going to be such a good match. And apparently it didn't go so well the night of the match. It just wasn't as good as they expected it to, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Jannetty said, quote, we went down and got that match so good with three days ahead. That night in Denver, which is Sean and I's town, we had that match down so good we never slowed down and we went for 20 minutes. So that was the night before the Royal Rumble. So they end up having this match, and apparently Vince McMahon didn't like it. Vince McMahon told him he was very disappointed in them and all this type of shit. They thought the match could have been better. So apparently, Shawn Michaels tells Vince McMahon behind Marty's back that the match sucked because Marty was drunk in the ring. Oh, you bastard.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Marty was fucked up, and that's why it wasn't good. That's what it was. So since he's the champ, he's a big star, and Marty's just coming back in the company, Vince believes him. And Vince says, Giannetti said, quote, Vince, the next day at TV, called me into his office and said, I heard you had been drinking and just wasn't there for that match. I have to let you go.
Starting point is 01:45:41 I have to let you go. So he just fired him right there. So, yeah, and he said it was bullshit. So he just fired him right there. So, yeah. And he said it was bullshit. He goes, both him and Sean were out. They were both fucking hung over. And, you know, if it didn't go, it was no more anybody's fault than anybody else's fault. And they just thought sometimes matches just fall flat.
Starting point is 01:45:57 It just happens sometimes. So at that point, he, you know, he was pissed off. At that point, he was pissed off. Eventually, though, Mr. Perfect, Kurt Hennig, ends up brokering the whole thing and telling Vince McMahon, look, I think fucking Sean was drunker than Marty was, and I think Sean lied to you and all this shit. So they end up bringing him back. They rehire Marty again. This is like the fourth time. They rehire him again, and what they do is they make marty beat
Starting point is 01:46:26 sean for the title on tv to punish sean proves that sean's a liar to punish him sean still have a fucking job because he's talented wow he tells vince he's such a cunt bruce pritchard on the something to wrestle podcast always talks about how sean says shit to vince that no one else on earth can get away with and for some reason he'll he'll be like, you're fucking blah, blah, blah, and yell at him. And Vince will just go, you're right. Have you listened to him? He's right. And he's just like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:46:51 He can do no fucking wrong for some reason. Some people just get away with shit. Sean Michaels was known as the biggest asshole in the business in the 90s. And Vince just kept, he loved it. Because that's what he is. He's an asshole too. And he's like, I love this. He reminds me of me.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Yeah. He's an asshole just like me. You know, I've seen him. Yeah. Me. I would bury my best friend to get a step ahead, too. This is what you do. So they do that.
Starting point is 01:47:16 He ends up, that was only for a week, though. And then Sean wins it back. It was just a pun of Sean. Then Marty kind of fades into the background. He ends up tagging with the 123 kid, who's Sean Waltman, 6, and X-Pac, and all those different names. And they actually win the tag team titles. Really? Yeah, they do, versus the Quebecers.
Starting point is 01:47:34 And that only lasts like a week, I think, four days, I think, and then they lose him back again. But he's got some titles. Now, June of 1994, Chuck Austin is in court. And Marty disappears from the wwf for a while while the court proceedings are going on and don't represent us no well they're suing this guy is suing both titan sports which was the parent company vince's company uh also they were he was suing sean michaels and marty genetti individually as well in this lawsuit uh he's seeking untold millions for his paralysis and everything like that to on the stand that he gets bruno sam martino to testify
Starting point is 01:48:12 really who's like the biggest legend in the history of the wwe and a very old school guy he's also very bitter toward the wrestling business bruno is if you hear him talk at all great guy but just bitter about the wrestling business about to tell some truth he got up there anyway and talk some shit he said that this he this is on the wrestling stand he said that the sport has quote gone bananas which would have been funny in his italian accent it's gone to bananas it's got a bananas you have no idea uh he says that uh i look at it as rather bizarre i don't think it resembles wrestling very much at all he says that, uh, I look at it as rather bizarre. I don't think it resembles wrestling very much at all. He said that, uh, all the flash and all this type of shit. And, uh, he was testifying that basically the company was at fault for not putting,
Starting point is 01:48:56 for not teaching this Chuck Austin more how to take this, this, uh, this fall. He also says that they use, he he gets he tries to really bury wrestling he gets up there and he says look now with the use of tricks and uh lighting tricks and they use uh soundtracks to sweeten the crowd noise to uh so that way it seems like that people like a bigger show yeah he says quote that gives the illusion of the popularity of wrestling which let's not act like wrestling wasn't popular right calm down bruno i love bruno but fucking relax um yeah he said that he wasn't taking a fee to testify he's just doing it to fuck vince mcmahon because he's mad at him basically they also use a mirror uh for for to make the crowd look bigger that's the thing yeah that's well they would they did have certain tricks they
Starting point is 01:49:41 would do but not to because it was empty oh Oh, they piped in sound. Really? Fuck yeah. If you watch any WWF TV from the 80s, it's all sweetened sound like crazy. Oh, it's so sweetened like a motherfucker. Yeah, they just pipe in. You'll hear like a big cheer and the crowd in the background, everyone's just sitting still. No one's even clapping. Like, who's cheering?
Starting point is 01:50:01 Where are they cheering? But yeah, they piped it in. That was a big deal. So it sounded good. They didn't pipe it in the arena. They were just sweetening it on the track to put it out on TV. So now he says that the, Bruno says that he thought that everybody was a little bit negligent about the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:50:20 He says that Chuck Austin agreed to participate in the match before he was ready. And that's also his fault. He should know what Austin agreed to participate in the match before he was ready, and that's also his fault. He should know what he needs to do. He also says that Jannetty was negligent because he didn't do everything he could to protect Austin from getting hit in the head. That's what he said. Now, Austin testified that he didn't know the rocker dropper or anything. He tried to say that he didn't know participation in the sport could be dangerous. Your ass.
Starting point is 01:50:44 You're an idiot. That's bullshit. If you're a grown man and you watch a man pile drive another man, you go, well, if he fucks that up a slight bit, that guy's got a broken neck. It's pretty clear. Everything is safe to a degree of anything errors cause problems and someone will get killed.
Starting point is 01:51:07 errors cause problems and someone will get killed so a man being picked up by his neck uh and and tombstoned is it's not good no and how else yeah what are you talking about real careful you can't bounce a 250 pound man off his head with his body weight on top of him that's going to be bad for everybody all that what that specific guy has a an accordion spine yeah what are we talking about it's very it's bouncy it's like a cartoon character it's springy they also get killer kowalski to testify oh jesus he testifies about this i don't know why this has anything to do with it but he testifies in the 50s he fucking put a flying knee drop on somebody and caught the guy's cauliflower ear with his knee and took his ear clean off his body. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:51:49 He said there was blood spurting all over the place. And he said that he got yelled at for it. And he said, so what? These things happen. What is Van Gogh to man? It's killer. Yeah. So the judge ends up dismissing Shawn Michaels from the lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:52:07 His attorney argued there was no evidence showing Michaels did anything to cause the injury. Might have worsened it after he jumped on him, but he didn't have anything to do with the initial thing. He slammed into him, but Giannetti was the one who took him to the mat. And they said that the Rockers both testified that Austin had been instructed five times before the match how to do the move. They kept this is how you do it. This is how you do it. They also brought in like sample wrestlers. They brought in Dean Malenko, who's a wrestler.
Starting point is 01:52:34 They brought him in to demonstrate in court how to do the move. They show him doing it and getting up and being fine. Look, if you do it like this, look at me. I'm great. Did it five times in front of them. Don't feel a thing. Looking, you you know just to show that he fucked up uh the jury ends up judging that the world wrestling federation uh is 90 negligent for the accident uh they they uh um marty genetti is five percent negligent and so is chuck austin he's also five percent negligent for not knowing what he was
Starting point is 01:53:05 doing they award him let's do the you sir are awarded 26.7 million dollars oh jesus yeah i mean wwf has insurance for this type of shit but that's a hit does he get 90 of that no no no that's the wwf is oh that's their is responsible for 90% of $26.7 million. Marty Jannetty is responsible for about a million on his own, which we don't think he ever paid. I think it went to judgment. And then Chuck Austin, obviously, can't pay himself. So they awarded him $20 million for his past and future medical expenses and lost earnings. And his wife, Holly, was awarded $5.5 million.
Starting point is 01:53:46 And their sons, their two sons got 500 000 each right so his wife holly got 20 million dollars basically the man's paralyzed yeah it's well he's he just he can walk on right yeah he's not going to tahiti with her no we're not having a lot of fun anyway let's go no we can't go sit in that hammock and i'm gonna go get some rub downs no shit uh the bottom line the judge said that it was ridiculous to basically to get your 150 dollars you had to sign a thing saying that you were signing your waiver basically but that waiver wasn't like a legal waiver it's it's legally say i'm not responsible for something you're responsible for as a trampoline park you're signing a waiver i can still sue the fuck out of you yeah they're still they're still hurt here you're still fucked if you did something negligent you're still fucked yeah you're still suable you
Starting point is 01:54:32 assholes yeah uh chuck austin said quote they saw the truth that the truth came out in spite of everything that's been going on there uh wwf appeals of course and uh the repeal is pretty silly though it doesn't really go anywhere. And I don't know what the final number is, but they ended up having to pay over $20 million for this whole thing. Wow. Which is pretty fucking crazy. So at this point, Marty kind of has to lay low.
Starting point is 01:54:55 He's out. He's in the ECW for a while, which we've talked about a lot. That's where New Jack and Shit wrestled. That's the Extreme Championship Wrestling, which is a very not marty's thing i cannot tell you i've seen some of the shows with him on them i can't tell you how out of place he looked in this he's still got his like rockers gear on yeah the spandex things with the stripes and the bandanas these guys are like coming out with like fucking ripped jeans and like you know like combat boots and chains and shit like
Starting point is 01:55:25 they don't look like they're fighting the same fight. It's really strange. He fights the Sandman for the title at one point. Sandman. We've talked about as you know, like the Zuba pants and a t-shirt. He smokes while he fights. He drinks like a six pack before the match starts and he hits everybody with a kendo stick and he's fighting Genetty, which is just strange.
Starting point is 01:55:45 He's fighting a guy that looks like he just came out of Michael Jackson's Beat It video. That's what he looks like, yeah. And he actually has a match against Jimmy Snuka in 94 here, too, as well. Another alum. Then he goes back eventually, September 95. He's back in the WWF. He has a pretty decent run all around. He fights the guys from the Body Donnas, which are Tammy Sitch's team.
Starting point is 01:56:11 So Tammy's involved in that, too. It's all intertwined here. He wins the MTW heavyweight title. Yikes. That's fun. Then after this, in 95, he starts a feud i'm sorry with the one two three kid uh who again was his ex tag team partner great very exciting here uh also he they form a team called the new rockers not good the new anything is always bad it's always bad
Starting point is 01:56:42 him and his partner leaf cassidy. It's a terrible name. It's Al Snow, the guy who had the head thing. You know who Al Snow is? No. They called him Leif Cassidy and put him in this. That's bad, too. Not good. Not good at all.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Nothing really worked out for him. The new rocker sucked, and Marty ends up quitting because he doesn't feel like he's going anywhere here, which I don't know what he's quitting for. Collect your paycheck. He works through them pretty much all through 96 and then in 97 he does a little bit more with ECW. He ends up signing with
Starting point is 01:57:11 WCW, but he has an elbow injury and that run doesn't last too long. He does have some matches against good people though. Dean Malenko, he gets beat by Chris Benoit. He was alive afterwards so not the worst loss by Chris Benoit. He was alive afterwards, so not the worst loss ever against Benoit.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Conan. This is a who's who of crime and sports wrestlers here. Now, he, on July 10th, 1999, he's arrested in Florida, which is mainly where he always gets arrested. He's arrested
Starting point is 01:57:43 for unlawful speed and driving while license suspended and a DUI. So he's driving too fast with no license and drunk. Not great at all here. He's found guilty for this later on. There's going to be more, though. He keeps wrestling through all this. He's fighting Sabu. He's fighting AWF.
Starting point is 01:58:03 God, what the hell was that? I don't remember what that was. Oh, the Heroes of Wrestling pay-per-view he was on. Jesus, that's terrible AWF. God, what the hell was that? I don't remember what that was. Oh, the Heroes of Wrestling pay-per-view he was on. Jesus, that's terrible, too. Like a Legends one? It was bad, dude. It was bad.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Not good stuff. It's known as one of the worst things ever. Fights fucking Tatanka in 1999. Jesus Christ, that's not good stuff. Then in December 99, rounds out the year with a nice visit to the police station for unlawful speed DUI. And this DUI was at 10 a.m. Wow.
Starting point is 01:58:32 10 a.m. That is impressive. Dude, he was speeding drunk at 10 a.m. That's fucking awesome. He probably hadn't had a drink in like 12 hours, though. That should be an extra charge. If you're drunk before noon, that should be like from the time the sun comes up to noon. That's an extra charge if you're drunk before noon that should be like from the time the sun comes up to noon that's an extra charge if you're drunk i'm sorry you you are
Starting point is 01:58:50 you're trying hard to be that dry you can't be drunk then by accident you didn't just have a few and it got a hold of you i don't know sometimes you got up with it you wake up from in a strange woman's bed and you're driving home that might be it i've done it a few times where i'm like i could certainly get a dui right now i haven't had a drink in hours 10 a.m yeah i can see it happening but uh yeah he's he's arrested again uh so all sorts of shit here duis uh this is when he every time he goes out he gets in trouble because he constantly has uh he's constantly he has no license yeah so every time he gets pulled over it's a dui and it's no license this is all in florida he just hangs out in florida the whole time he gets pulled over, it's a DUI and it's no license. This is all in Florida. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:59:25 He just hangs out in Florida the whole time. He's Florida, man. He fucking is Florida, man. Continues wrestling. He's in all sorts of... This is some of the wrestling leagues. TWA, WCWO, MWA, NWL. This is all just...
Starting point is 01:59:44 These are all bad. just pop up fly by night wrestling places for the most part here then in June 11th 2004 which is a good time here June 11th 2004 he hasn't been wrestling in a while 2001 and then he kind of disappeared for a while
Starting point is 02:00:00 he pops up by getting arrested for operating a vehicle while driver's license revoked for habitual offenses and also a dui uh drugs or alcohol yeah uh third violation within 10 years so he's got that as well well you know suspended license for a dui again yeah for the third time again again again again again so well you know what I'm saying wow after this he can't he actually tries not to drive for a while because I mean what the fuck are you gonna do he tries not to drive he tries walking yeah first of all the roosters around Tampa we're getting to riding a rooster he's riding a rooster he's like Jesus
Starting point is 02:00:38 Christ he finally found an area of Tampa with no fucking roosters he's like Jesus Christ I gotta walk here god damn it he was kicking him out of the way it was it's very difficult and just uh one day he's walking by he's in this other neighborhood and he he sees he just hears marty he turns around he's like who the hell is this he looks up in a doorway and it's estevez jones mma fighter and 70s blaxploitation film character and he says motherfucker how is it you come to arrive here motherfucker now i got listen i got questions for you now listen marty call your ass marty all right marty sit down for a minute motherfucker first of all first of all i got you you surprised you should be surprised to see me it took everybody in that motherfucking van to keep Vince McMahon from coming in this bitch. I'll tell you what, man.
Starting point is 02:01:26 That motherfucker was like, yo, I'm going to get to him. He was like, yo, tell that motherfucker Marty. You know, he'd talk right and shit. He'd be like, yo, you tell Marty that he'd take his shirt off and shit and put some overalls on. I don't know what the fuck that dude was talking about. Fuck you want overalls on people, some corny ass shit. I was like, yo, fuck you, Vince McMahon. So Dexter, he'd be talking to
Starting point is 02:01:45 him dexter's the only one know how to talk to that motherfucker you know i'm saying like he'd be tripping anyway marty marty marty so these women right you was drugging them you just drug them up then you make them not look pretty no more shove them the fuck out in the hallway what the fuck is wrong with you man shaving the head and shit saving that motherfucker what you a sucker man what the fuck you doing them women you drug them all up you could have sold every motherfucker on that hallway everybody knock on the window just prop them up like bernie from that fucking stupid ass movie be like yo five dollars you know what i'm saying it's all profit we don't give a fuck right you dumb motherfucker you suck i'm leaving poof and a poof of leopard print yeah and all sorts of shit weekend at bernie's dvd into bernie's
Starting point is 02:02:26 dvds he's gone yeah and marty is very confused i'm sure it's like what did i take that was weirder than waking up next to roddy piper and uh in 2000 jonathan silverman signed autographs yeah in 2005 i found a newspaper ad for the blue water championship wrestling where it says wcw versus wwf dream match and it's buff bagwell versus marty genetti which has never been a dream match anywhere nobody's dream at all nobody's dream nightmare that is awful and i'm paying for this this is a nightmare yeah it's bad stuff man in 2004 things get bad for marty starts to have a little bit of a breakdown he gets super depressed uh he starts calling his friends and family and telling them he's going to kill himself oh no
Starting point is 02:03:16 he's like how you doing yeah let me kill myself man uh so uh just starting to regret all those things i did to women in the 80s. Yeah, I'm feeling bad about myself. So word starts to get around about Marty's hard times. And Shawn Michaels ends up calling him. They haven't talked in a long time, and they parted on bad terms. So he ends up calling him. And it's at that moment that Michaels, this is right after Michaels became a born-again Christian. Oh, you motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:03:43 that Michaels, this is right after Michaels became a born-again Christian. Oh, you motherfucker. Shawn Michaels now, everybody says, that know him, says he's the nicest. He couldn't be more of an opposite person than he was. He was the worst person to the nicest person in the world. But, like, this apparently was good for Shawn Michaels. He needed this shit. He was an asshole. But he's a born-again Christian now.
Starting point is 02:04:01 And he said that, you know, Marty, come and I'll help you, basically. So he takes Marty and gets him baptized and uh yeah he gets baptized by the heartbreak kid which is fucking hilarious and uh also doesn't not only does that he talks to vince mcmahon for him and gets marty into the wwf again back in back in again michaels was in a feud with kurt angle who will have his own episode someday and uh they're going to have this match at WrestleMania, and what they did is, before that, they did a rocker reunion in 2005. They had Marty
Starting point is 02:04:32 and Shawn wrestle a match together as the rockers, and he said they called him up and said, hey, would you be interested in this? And he said, I'm like, hell yeah. I'm broke as fuck. I got bills. I'm calling my fucking friends I haven't talked to in 10 years. Tell them I'm going to kill myself.
Starting point is 02:04:47 That's how low I am. Bet your fucking ass. I got a judge. I don't even have to go to court. And she just calls me every day to laugh. It's just funny. I just answer the phone. There's a judge laughing at me. So he says that after that, he said everything went well.
Starting point is 02:05:02 He said this led to him being offered a contract by the WWE. And he said that Shawn Michaels totally got all this done for him. He says, quote, Shawn owns Vince. We don't need to know why. But John Laurinaitis, who was VP at the time, came up and said, Vince liked you so much. Sign this.
Starting point is 02:05:23 And it was the biggest contract money-wise for me. It was a nice half a million dollars for a year. So that's the contract he's got before him. He said, then I had some legal problems come up. And he does. While this is going through, he has a half million dollars on the table. He instead has a domestic incident with a woman. A little domestic disturbance.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Instead, has a domestic incident with a woman, a little domestic disturbance. And while he's he's arrested for disorderly conduct, eventually not a domestic thing, but it's stemming from a domestic incident. He's arrested for disorderly conduct and he is unable to make the show that he's scheduled for. So he gets fired. Oh, no. You can't make a show. Your shit can. So you just no call, no show because he was arrested. Do we know what it is? It was domestic violence with his girlfriend oh you
Starting point is 02:06:08 so his girlfriend but they didn't know it ended up being a disorderly conduct was the actual charge so i don't know exactly what the deal was with it but uh either way he uh he beat buff bagwell by dq for the blue water championship wrestling we got that going on. In 2006, also, he was, again, supposed to, they were going to do another rocker reunion with Marty Jannetty, but he couldn't show up without breaking his parole that he was on, or his probation, so he couldn't.
Starting point is 02:06:36 So he didn't go. He wasn't allowed to go. So he's allowed to go other places, though, because in 2006, in March, March 14th, 2006, to be exact, they pull him over. Turns out he's got a warrant out for him. Oh, no. Also has no license there. And he's driving.
Starting point is 02:06:53 And he's driving. He acts a fool when they pull him over, too, so he gets a disorderly conduct on top of that. DUI, no license. And he's drunk again? And he's drunk again or on something. We don't know what. It's a DWI, DUI. Probably pills. And he's drunk again? And he's drunk again or on something. We don't know what. It's a DWI, DUI. It says...
Starting point is 02:07:07 Probably pills. Who knows what it is. So he's doing all that shit again. In 2007, even though this just happened in 2006, WWE wants to sign him again. They want to bring him in again. Why not? Unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Dude, how silver is Vince McMahon? The luckiest man on earth too by the way i mean jesus christ so they say they want him to come in they want him to work on the work and they also want to work at the training center training some of the new guys they want him to kind of bring the new guys along because he's a good worker he's solid and he's a nice guy right bring him along but what does he do fails a fucking drug test for them. They go, all you need to do is pass this drug test and you're hired. Sure. No problem.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Nope. Can't fucking do that. You dumb shit. So at that point, they were like, OK, I mean, you wash your hands of them. You got to wash your hands with them. It's at this point. Marty's just keep saying, look, it's not my fault. He goes, you know, I try.
Starting point is 02:08:02 He goes, I've tried to undergo treatment treatment but it doesn't work for me um he says that one time i beat up my counselor because you know that's what you do in rehab and then another time i had the exact opposite problem when i fucked my sex addiction rehab counselor so i either fight him or i fuck him one of the two so i love that though he's for alcohol abuse he beats the guy up and for sex addiction he fucks her like that's amazing whatever it is he's like oh you're not supposed to do that right i thought hey you're supposed to get shit faced and show everyone how bad you get when you're drunk that was the point of the whole meeting i thought i thought sex addiction was to see how low can you go that That's awesome. Exactly how gross will you get?
Starting point is 02:08:46 So he's wrestling all around for a bunch of bullshit, too, at this point. He's in like EWF, UCW, all this crap. In addition to, like I said, the 15th anniversary show in 2007, 15th anniversary of Monday Night Raw. He has a match. They bring him in to get beat by mr kennedy there uh so again it's back to the indies back to the indies he's like two rungs below finding out how many eight-year-olds he can wrestle at once that's what i mean he's almost there he's in all these indies i mean some of the some of these indies it's different people
Starting point is 02:09:19 it's different names of different guys every night just every not wrestling for the same one and it's like a month apart two days apart awr wrestling wrestling legends tour ewf cwny just all sorts of these weird martin nolte he's fighting he fights uh i thought it was martin nolte wrestling this is a funny name. He fights a guy. He teams up with Sabu, who's crazy, to fight a guy named Duncan Disorderly, which is hilarious. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:09:52 And it's spelled D-U-N-K-A-N. That's pretty fucking funny. I like it. That's good shit there. October 2009, they bring him back on Raw to make an appearance, and he loses a match against The Miz, that dipshit there.
Starting point is 02:10:10 So he continues to wrestle the indies and wrestle the indies. God, these indies, dude, they're just so fucking sad. Yeah. There's no money in it. No, no, no, no, no. And he's the draw. Yeah. Have you ever seen Beyond the Mat? No.
Starting point is 02:10:21 Beyond the Mat is a documentary about all this, and they show Jake the Snake Roberts washed up in the mat is uh you know documentary about all this and they show jake the snake roberts washed up in the 90s going around to these indie places and then staying in some shitty hotel it's ugly bro brushing roaches off his pillows we're talking these places they're wrestling or you know these little 200 seat places with folding chairs and it's not good man it's not good uh 2013 is when he does that interview where he's super weird and has to be fucked up and uh gets mad at the guy for for fucking cutting it for him so he's having a bit of problems here as well uh all through this time his ankle is messed up i'm sure there's an interview that he does where he puts stands up on the table basically he's standing on his ankle his foot is going out yeah out sideways not in right out
Starting point is 02:11:11 that's how his foot goes good lord his shoes like on his ankle basically and he's like walking on his ankle it's so fucked up and he's still working now and then too like that and he's upset because he's mad at the wwf because they won't help him with a surgery he says i really need this surgery they won't help me with the money they say they'll send me to drug rehab for my pill problem for the pain for the thing but they won't fix but they won't fix it so i don't he goes how the fuck am i supposed to do that he goes so basically they said take pills and deal with it he goes so that's what i gotta do i'm gonna take pills and deal with it so that's that's their policy on that one that's what I got to do. I got to take pills and deal with it. So that's their policy
Starting point is 02:11:45 on that one. That's incredible. Yeah. You have this horrible injury. It's like, well. You've hired and fired the man 11 times
Starting point is 02:11:51 to fix his fucking ankle. He's, whenever anybody, he's 100% associated with you. Everyone knows it's bullshit. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Maybe they spent ankle surgery paying for that other guy's paralysis. Maybe, maybe. Well, they shouldn't have fucking hired him. Marty didn't find some inexperienced guy.
Starting point is 02:12:11 If they asked Marty, he would probably have found somebody better. Probably right. But I just don't understand how you do that, though. These guys, I get that Vince is like, well, he didn't wrestle for me the whole time. But, dude, you bought wrestling. You own it all now. So you own all the baggage of all those territories you worked for too it's a cherry pick you like all that you don't just own their video library and not the responsibility for it no you own everything you own all that shit if you're going to show a video from back then
Starting point is 02:12:35 and make money off of it that means you own whatever the fuck bad shit happened on that now that's how it works asshole transferred right to you right to you. Right. All rights and shittiness. Here you go, Vince. So, I mean, it sucks, but you're running a business where you got guys hurting themselves who aren't fucking employees for you. Sorry if that sucks. You've made plenty of money. Fucking spread it around. If something illegal happens there, that's your problem.
Starting point is 02:12:58 That's right. So, it's still better than Dana White, though. So, July 2016. That guy's a... I'm sorry. I've told you many times. He really is a scumbag. He will take anybody and can I make a dime off him?
Starting point is 02:13:10 Right. He's the worst. So July 2016, Marty's named as part of a class action lawsuit against the WWE in which the wrestlers encourage traumatic brain injuries. This is the CTE lawsuit here. And the suit had a bunch of old wrestlers in it and uh they end up losing the suit it's dismissed in september 2018 the judge was critical of the lawyer for including information about genetti's ankle which she said wasted the court's time oh you bastard they were trying to show the level of like of disregard of disregard look at
Starting point is 02:13:44 this guy's ankle and they're like well that has nothing to do with his head is what they said so they won't fix that clearly they're not going to fix something you can't see that fucking exactly exactly here so uh the the wrestlers claims of fraudulent concealment and medical monitoring must be dismissed because the court's clear holding in the very first of the WWE concussion cases that neither constitute causes of action under Connecticut law. So go fuck yourselves, is what they said here. She also noted that they're also time-barred because none of them had wrestled for WWE since 2011.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Well, sometimes CTE takes a while to... So as long as five years passes, you're fine? If we can get them out of here and get them to so they still know where they live right for five years and after that they can fucking you know start pissing in their laundry baskets if that part of their brain goes dark after a certain time no problem who gives a fuck them okay wow uh she also this judge also dismissed the wrestlers claims that they were misclassified as independent contractors as part of a scheme to defraud them she said quote these wrestlers
Starting point is 02:14:51 must have known of their classifications independent contractors uh contractors either when these deals were first made or when these wrestlers received tax paperwork within a year of making the deal that's not the point it doesn doesn't... He owns wrestling. They didn't know. It doesn't matter if they're an independent contractor or not. They didn't... They weren't aware that the fucking brain damage
Starting point is 02:15:10 was going to be forever. Well, that's a separate... How the fuck would they know? Separate issue, though. The independent contractor thing they were saying, they were also scamming him with that.
Starting point is 02:15:18 But it's like, you're saying baseball, they knew it when they signed it. Well, if you're the only fucking person that can do... The NFL is the only fucking league of football that makes money. They can't just make people sign crazy shit
Starting point is 02:15:29 that says fucking, you know, you don't count. If you break your leg, we're just going to have a bunch of people pull you into the street and leave you there. Fuck off. You can't do that just because you said you can. It's fucking ridiculous. On fourth and one, you're still responsible. Fourth and one, every NFL owner should have to be the center.
Starting point is 02:15:46 Exactly. Take that, motherfuckers. Well, this is ridiculous. I'm sorry. Independent contract... Okay, they tell you when you're supposed to show up and you have to show up. They tell you who and if you're allowed to wrestle for other people and when. That's not fair.
Starting point is 02:16:01 That's not an independent contractor. That's an employee. Independent contractor is, we'll see you for your next match. I don't care what you do between now and then because you don't work for me. If Popeye's hired a chicken chef and he was an independent contractor, he could go chicken chef for KFC tomorrow. You can't tell. They wouldn't allow that.
Starting point is 02:16:18 That's what I mean. You can't tell a fucking, think about a plumber. You're an independent contractor, but you can only work for me. You can only fix my leaks. You can only fix Ready Rooters' leaks. No, no. You can only fix my leaks at my house. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Because I'm independently contracting you to do this. Only my leaks at my house. And I'll call you when it happens. But until then, you can go fuck yourself. You better sit on call. You better not unclog anybody else's toilet because you are not coming back here if you do. But I have the most toilets in the world that's basically what it is fucking ridiculous they also asserted that they were coerced into signing contracts that were unconscionable
Starting point is 02:16:54 but the the uh the judge also ruled those were time barred those deals so they said each plaintiff who signed a booking contract with the w WWE enjoyed the benefits of those contracts without seeking legal intervention for years following the execution of the contracts. And indeed, years following the termination of each plaintiff's employment with WWE. Well, yeah, because they didn't have forethought to figure this was going to end one day. And then what the fuck? She even brings up CTE and Chris Benoit. one day and then what the fuck she even brings up cte and chris benoit this judge says the circumstances surrounding mr benoit's deaths were so were so tragic and so horrifying that it would have been reasonable for his fellow wrestlers to follow news developments about him and about cte
Starting point is 02:17:35 through which they could have deduced that they were at risk of developing cte and sought medical opinions to about risks to their own health so basically they said they saw chris benoit's brain was fucked up they all should have quit right then if they didn't it's their fault it's like uh what about all the brain damage that was done fucking before that about that jesus h christ wasn't in 1972 yeah she also said that the attorneys wasted time with the ankle thing genetti's ankle and saying that they quote uh to quote do nothing more than paint wwe as a villain it's really easy to paint that picture it's by numbers a villain does that to themselves it's by numbers man it's so easy put a little black over here a little gray over here three is green look at start coloring yeah uh wow this is this is
Starting point is 02:18:23 crazy the judge also ordered that the lawyer produce a copy of her ruling to any other wrestlers he may represent in any litigation against WWE. Like, basically, show them this first. Tell them that they're not going to win. Show them that I'm on the WWE side and go away. Wow. He said in a statement, the lawyer, that he stands for professional wrestlers who face the prospect of losing their identity and consciousness to the efforts of a latent occupational disease. The court ignored the pleas for help contained in 60 very personal there's no reasonable basis for the assertions, despite a substantial body of medical peer-reviewed literature going back almost 100 years.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Basically, the court said, you can't prove that CTE is bad. And if you did prove it, you should have known it. Yeah, that's fucking amazing here. So the WWE lawyer says that the lawsuit was designed to overwhelm the court with sheer volume to see if there's something worthwhile that never works and it didn't work here so they're also they're all super pissed so all the wrestlers who are in the suit are out on their ass shit out of luck getting nothing for their for their injuries at least the nfl had a settlement and then they're like oh oh, fuck you, buddy. And it's almost like, ha-ha, gotcha.
Starting point is 02:19:45 Well, I mean, the NFL was on CNN. This shit was never on. No, except for Benoit. Yeah. When Benoit went nuts, that's all he talked about. They don't put this in mainstream media for everybody to understand how bad and poorly these people are treated. And this isn't just the guys who hit each other with chairs constantly. This is everything.
Starting point is 02:20:02 You have no idea how many times a guy will bounce his head off the mat just in terms of you take a slam a little wrong, bang. That's a little concussion. A guy that runs, jumps, grabs the second rope with their feet, does a backflip and slams into another guy, that still fucks your head up. That's what I mean. Yes, the wrestlers should know that that's inherently dangerous,
Starting point is 02:20:23 but the WWE should have protections in place for people who are doing shit that they know is dangerous and they're making the big money off of it that means that if they hurt themselves that's on you i get that in the ring but then once they're gone they're fucking gone unless it's drugs because that was bad pr for him fucking i mean it's honestly it's hard not to feel bad for these fucking guys i do i feel bad for all of them, Jimmy. Yeah. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Marty Gennetti. No.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Independent market research professional in Paris, France. And Marty Gennetti, talent acquisition specialist at Flamingo Pharmaceuticals Limited in Beverly Hills, California. What about Marty Gennetti, the gondola driver in Italy? Hey, it's Marty Jannetty. Hey, how you doing? Jesus Christ. Oh, it's all of you.
Starting point is 02:21:13 I'm Marty Jannetty. How is there no Marty Jannetty in goddamn Italy? I'm Marty Jannetty. Some cigarette smoking. What does he do? It's not Italian. Independent market research what is his name's not italian independent market research he's not italian no it's not spelled fucking j-a-n-a-t-i it's j-a-n-n-e-t-t-y oh my god how is there not one in germany yeah that's what i mean he's got all sorts of shit happening
Starting point is 02:21:38 here now 2017 yeah oh my god he's still out. He's on social media a lot, by the way, saying crazy shit, doing crazy shit. 2017, he puts up a Facebook post. Or I should say, a Facebook post is on his Facebook wall. He says that, wow. He says that in this whole thing, that he has fought the urge to have a sexual relationship with his daughter. Who's in her 20s. No. He said that in this thing, he said that they are going to get DNA tests to make sure he's the father. And he uploaded a pic of this girl and said, quote, just did a DNA test.
Starting point is 02:22:19 She's not my daughter. We both held out of sex because you don't do that. But now we can can and then he went on to describe her as fucking hot and then he was asking people for advice on fucking her no he says he was hacked he's like i didn't put up that about my daughter he goes it's fucking crazy i actually kind of believe him on this one uh he says a little while later quote i'm still getting bombarded with emails and messages about this and fans at live events ask me questions about it.
Starting point is 02:22:47 In fact, every damn body seems to have their own podcast now and wants me to go on there and talk about that disgusting post. Of course, I would never think anything like that. It's messed up.
Starting point is 02:22:55 Who do I look like? Fucking Buck Zoomhoff over here? He didn't say that. So it really is his daughter? Yeah, but yeah, he's a fucking fucker. That's just somebody,
Starting point is 02:23:03 yeah, he said, quote, it's almost comical that i worked my ass off for so hard to make my name in wrestling and through the years and years of blood sweat and tears i did that the barbershop window episode with sean is legendary it happened over 25 years ago people still rave about it yet one fake bs story has risen right up there with that it makes me mad because i wonder if in 25 years from now will they still be saying that pervert wanted to fuck his daughter yes uh so here's his explanation for that and he
Starting point is 02:23:31 puts this on facebook too i always tell people on facebook about losing my phones which happens a lot dude where's my phone in parentheses well here's here's how i know a recent one was stolen not lost i got up this morning and saw my phone I had eight Facebook messages that came in from 4.30 a.m. when I went to bed and 8.30 a.m. when I woke up. He sleeps like me. He sleeps four hours a day. That's what I do. Those are my fucking hours pretty much. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Lord. I checked into them and they were all people asking why I look so sad. There was a pic sent to many people in Facebook Messenger of me looking horrible. I told it. I told it told on the culprit. The picture is of me of a close-up wearing my reading glasses and looking tired as I can be, which I was, but the pic came while I was setting up a Skype and didn't mean to take a selfie. Evidently, I touched the wrong place, but I saved that pic to that phone and occasionally look and remind myself that I'm getting really old. Point being, it was just saved to that stolen phone, not Facebook, not my laptop, tablet, or computer.
Starting point is 02:24:31 It is in the cloud, Marty. It's everywhere. Just that phone. And I always leave my Facebook open on my phone so that a person was able to go through all my Facebook accounts. Well, why the fuck would you do that? That person must hate me. Why else would they do that crap? Well, if you got it in the phone, you just open the app.
Starting point is 02:24:46 That's you can get into it. Why would you leave your phone unlocked? Have a lock code on there. Why else would they do that crap to me? My biggest disappointment is no one that saw it caught on that it was obviously fake and at least asked me about it rather than take it as true. That's true. Hey, Marty, did you write that? Except for a few on my fan page.
Starting point is 02:25:04 That's how I originally found out about it. It's a six-week-old thing. I was keeping quiet about it in SoHarm not to harm the investigation. But recently, I found out, recently for some odd reason, newspapers are suddenly reporting on it. But now you all know the real on this. Sorry, Bianca and Wendy, that you're all getting dragged into my messes. I love you all, and this will be fixed. I don't think he did that.
Starting point is 02:25:24 No. I think somebody took his phone that he was hanging out with considering that at this point his main court uh source of income was doing appearances at local bars all over the united states dubbing it quote party with marty oh no so who knows what fuck three hundred dollars and a bar that's yeah like a fucking guy he's like a bar tab? That's, yeah. Poor fucking guy. He's like a C-level comic going in, headlining a room that normally doesn't do comedy, but they put a pallet in the corner,
Starting point is 02:25:53 and that's a stage now. Stand there. One of those, yeah. Let the audience poke at you. Yeah, 2017, he is still, still wrestling. Still going around, his ankle all fucked up, he's fighting, i've never heard of any of these f-e-w-l-a-w-b-o-t-b i don't know what the fuck these are gcw he's fighting everything
Starting point is 02:26:14 here and uh i don't know he looks like he's losing a lot he fought a match against the uh uh kerry von or kevin von eric the one lone von eric remaining that's pretty wild uh 2018 there was a change.org petition to get marty into the wwe hall of fame and it had 251 things which is not that's not a good showing it's not gonna work yes they have millions of fans yeah it's not good uh 2018 still wrestling jesus christ for i don't know why he's doing this. He defeated Dr. Wrecking Ball on January 20th, 2018 in Taylor, Michigan. He needs rent, James. That's why.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Oh, man. Event at Our Lady of Mount Carmel School in Cleveland, Ohio. That's a Catholic school. It's a Catholic high school gym. That's exactly what that is. At VFW's Cabana on the Whitewater. That stands for Veteran of Foreign Wars. school yeah they're high it's a catholic high school gym that's exactly what that is uh at vfw's cabana on the whitewater that stands for a veteran of foreign wars they are wrestling at a vfw hall that is awful in harrison ohio which i don't even know where the fuck that is meanwhile sean
Starting point is 02:27:17 michaels has like an 8 000 square foot palatial mansion in fucking texas somewhere and he calls uh diamond dallas page to just giggle all day yeah isn't this hilarious uh apparently that's kind of what the deal was with that he diamond dallas page uh um has talked to marty before and apparently marty does not want to do all that's gonna do with his yoga doesn't want to do with exactly what what page wants him to do there's a program you have to follow jake did it and it seemed to work marty is not willing to do with his yoga doesn't want to do with exactly what what page wants him to do there's a program you have to follow jake did it and it seemed to work marty is not willing to do it so uh mid 2019 he puts up a post about this is real he said this is real later on but this is about what he's been going through lately this is last year quote you know uh y'all know i play on here a lot but about to be real uh real real right now i've been partying way capital way
Starting point is 02:28:06 too much lately possibly every day since wrestlemania however that however long ago that was 30 or 40 days that's a lot i don't even know but i need to stop he says but it's hard my personality doesn't allow me to be bored and for me going from 350 days a year on the road over 100 beautiful ladies per year for many many years to living in backwoods alabama right now and only doing shows on weekends what the hell else am i going to do during the week drink smoke a little plant and possibly throw a little powder up then have sex with all the neighbor girls oh my god That's what he says. Women. You have to say women. He spells it with a U and two R's. Girls. Girls.
Starting point is 02:28:48 Girls. Then he says, but it has to stop. Three exclamation points. I'm not working out right now. I'm not tanning, not studying film. Hell, I ain't doing shit but drinking and fucking. Sorry about the language. In parentheses.
Starting point is 02:29:02 And waiting for the weekends. And now I got three events this weekend. I'm embarrassed at my own damn self to go do these things in front of my people looking like a pale white fat pig. And I think I have a seminar to do. Nothing means more to me these days and teaching my kids and drinking. But I've partied so much lately and fucking and powders. But I've partied so much lately that if i stop for a full day i go into some weird withdrawal shit and my hands shake so bad i can't even sign autographs right yeah that's
Starting point is 02:29:32 what happens called alcoholism bro and fucking whatever else you're addicted to and therefore just like i just like what i all what all i'm doing this weekend starting tomorrow a baseball game an all girls wrestling event a seminar a meet and greet for my great friend some guy i don't know i'm going to have a drink on my way through all that so i don't go through withdrawals in front of my people my wow my heart is talking to me hasn't been beating right for two days now not to scare anyone especially my family but just further proof i've got to stop three exclamation points i'm not trying to scare anybody i'm about to have a heart attack yeah stroke or some
Starting point is 02:30:10 three exclamation points event just told my heart i will stop just let me wean down so it's not so dangerous so it's cool now he just bargained with his heart he's like listen heart listen pal you don't have a heart attack right now i'll stop i'm gonna wean you off a little bit and say six eight months when we're gonna be clean it's gonna be fine now holy shit uh he says that uh i spoke to the left and right ventricles we're good yeah we're fine oh my god uh he then later on in the year he says he's's doing great. Yeah. Now he's doing fine. He says, quote, I do seminars now and I've had a couple of wrestling schools that have been successful. I'm trying so much to be in the movie industry because I've always been.
Starting point is 02:30:54 I've always said that that my transition after wrestling movies, we already have sort of an acting background. It's crazy now that Vince can do that for you because he's making movies. He said about the movies about yeah he says to be the rock now yeah that's that's what it fucking is he says uh uh yeah that's that's kind of what uh he says that uh apparently sean michaels fucked up a lot of the wrestling opera the acting opportunities sean michaels was apparently on an episode of pacific blue usa network show about the isn't it about the people like bicycle cops on the beach that sounds right i remember the commercials in 1999 and he says marty says they did not like him and they
Starting point is 02:31:36 cut all wrestlers off like nope no more wrestlers i don't know what he did the word was no more wrestlers because of how he was on set knowing sean i'm like come on man damn why'd you do that probably roasted the director's dog on the beach probably he also says it's your dog he also talks about they ask him are you and sean michaels on good terms and he said quote we're good we do signings and see each other when we see each other we hug up he said uh uh did you see and they asked him if you saw if uh you know he saw sean jump a guy basically he said that uh they talked about joking that never mind it's a stupid joke i won't even get into it he said quote we're good he's not the way he used to be about sean michaels excuse my language but he used to be a dick now Now, but now with his religion
Starting point is 02:32:25 and maybe older age and he ain't got no hair. He laughs at that. Take it easy. I don't know what, but he's different because Marty's got a good head of hair on him.
Starting point is 02:32:33 He's good now. He's good now and that's all you can do. Like a guy for what he's become. Spoken like a true oats. You know what? Hall's done on
Starting point is 02:32:41 to be really, do really well for himself and I'm happy. I shaved my mustache and I'm trying to make my way for myself but i'm happy for daryl and everything he's accomplished it's fine you know what george michael i'm happy for his solo career didn't need anything now so everything seems to be fine marty's doing great sean keeps up with him at the same time they asked sean in the same month about mart and Sean says, quote, wow, I no longer have a contact number for him. There are times I see him. He's great. He seems great. Other times it's less so
Starting point is 02:33:12 it's heartbreaking to me, just as it just as it is to everyone else. I don't know what if any of us can do in that aspect. He's made a decision on how he wants to live his life. Truth be told, it's not my place or anyone else's to tell him how all we can do is care for care about him and when it's not going well take care of him so he's like everything's great and they're like um we feel so bad for him he's just a pathetic son of a bitch he's so fucking pathetic and he is though that's the thing that he's someone to to feel bad for to pity to not even mock like he'll be sean michaels he's just like oh yeah it's just sad and genetti in the same breath almost is like i mean everything's great when i see him we hug up it's a lot of fun and uh i have a lot of fun we're all good people
Starting point is 02:34:02 and all that shit uh there is an urban dictionary definition of Marty Jannetty. No way. Oh, yeah. He's got his own urban dictionary entry just for him. Marty Jannetty, the member of a pair destined for lesser things. A reference to the 80s and 90s wrestling tag team, the Rockers. Shawn Michaels went on to greatness while Marty Jannetty faded into obscurity. Quote, that guy from Wham who wasn't George Michael was totally the Marty Jannetty of that group. group then there's another one i don't agree with this bob odenkirk was the marty genetti of
Starting point is 02:34:29 mr show oh i don't fucking agree with that right but david bob and david are like me and you there's no and it's not the same it's just a different there was bob was a part of so many amazing things bob odenkirk's a fucking genius he's great david cross is amazing too bob's all bob fucking larry sanders better call sol fucking breaking bad he's amazing he's great he's fucking great he had a tv show with like uh spade and louis ck fantastic all these amazing people it was not on the air long well that's what happened can't get enough of marty genetti well uh let's see here you can go on ebay I found his figure. The cheapest I found it is in Australia, the AWA Remco one, 1986. In Australian dollars, it is $150.30. That's like $7 million American.
Starting point is 02:35:18 That's it. That's it. It doesn't even come with the little vest thing that came on. It kind of looks like Bruce Lee. A little bit, yeah. A little bit. Yeah, that's that. You can get the cheaper ones, the WWF Hasbro came on him or anything. He kind of looks like Bruce Lee. A little bit, yeah. A little bit. And yeah, that's that. And you can get the cheaper ones,
Starting point is 02:35:26 the WWF Hasbro ones and shit like that. They have like new reissue ones. He's got a million figures. Really? Yeah, oh God, tons of them from the WWE era. Nobody knows who the fuck he is. Marty Jannetty? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:37 If you've ever watched wrestling, you know who he is. He's pretty well known. And if you still can't get enough, he'll be at the Comic-Con Scotland or comic-con scotland in 2020 later on in the year maybe if he fucking makes it that long kovid may have ruined his fucking that's true too who knows but uh that is marty genetti wow that is our wrestlemania special kind of a thing last week we did kind of opening season of baseball this week we'll do a
Starting point is 02:36:02 wrestlemania special that's a bad one he's yeah he's a disaster marty he's one of the more tragic figures in wrestling like i said the mickey rourke movie is him yeah it seriously is him but he loves to drink and drive yeah he loves to drink and drive he loves to do drugs i guess he just doesn't drive anymore but he still gets fucked up and uh he's just a mess man it's a sad case and we don't like sean michael said like you know all you can do is like him when he's good and then try to take care of him when he's bad yeah help him when he's just a mess man it's a sad case and we don't like sean michaels said like you know all you can do is like him when he's good and then try to take care of him when he's bad yeah help him when he's bad because otherwise there's nothing else you can really do it's it's fucking sad man but i will say his eyes are both straight yeah unlike sean michaels less money but straight eyes he's resorted
Starting point is 02:36:40 back to beating up couches yeah that's what he's gonna do i don't think he could move a couch if you paid him right now christ punching it punching it away but uh that is marty genetti and if you like that you should get on apple podcast that purple icon and give us five stars that's what you should do it doesn't matter what you say say you're following instructions following directions it does not matter but do that head over to shut up and give me murder.com for all of your crime and sports and small town murder needs, merchandise, tickets to live shows. The fall, there will be live shows, hopefully. Those are happening.
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Starting point is 02:38:19 I just have to say thank you, guys. Just noticing going over every once in a while, you got to go over our audiences. And I go, God damn, Crime and Sports people are great. They're very, very're just good people they're good people they're there every week and i have to say i think was it on small town murder i had the rant about people not being funny on social media yes yeah i got a couple messages about that people getting mad because i said that people aren't funny on social media i just wanted to say i really meant it i really did i meant every word it. I mean it twice as much now because your messages that you were upset about, they weren't funny either. You're not funny. I don't mean that as an insult to you.
Starting point is 02:38:51 I'm not saying you're not funny around your family. What I'm saying is you're not a comedian funny because you're not. Just like I'm not as good of a chef as a chef. And just like I don't play basketball as well as a basketball player. People that do things good enough to get paid for them generally are fucking better at them than you that's what i'm talking about so you can be funny but not funny enough to put shit up to comedians and expect us to laugh that's all i meant you could put them up it doesn't make us mad but we're not going to laugh at them we're going to roll our eyes and give it a like anyway if you
Starting point is 02:39:19 try to be funny if you just be yourself and be nice you don't have to try to be funny yeah we'll have a relationship where you'll be whatever you are and we'll be whatever we are if you're a butcher tell us about how nice your steaks are and we'll tell you a joke and then we'll fucking go our separate ways you don't have to be funny i don't have to know how to cut a t-bone everyone's going to be happy still that's all i was saying but i will say that our audience is funnier than every other audience they are i'll give you guys that you are fucking funnier than other people's audiences i've never seen i like you people way better than i enjoyed no not in terms of social media so it's just one of those things and when we say that too we don't think comedians are funny 70 of comedians aren't funny so it's not against you
Starting point is 02:39:59 most things aren't funny most things we say aren't funny it's very easy to not be funny is what we're getting at if you're not a professional you're probably an expert at not being funny so stop trying to be funny unless it's around your wife or kids that said uh yeah we have to say thank you for everything you do for us and we have a list of producers who we have to talk about because man these people are the the heart soul they're the the earth they're the hard earth floor man and we fucking love them our patreon people our paypal people our shout outs our producers jimmy i need it i need it hit me with it like i'm diving into the mat head first this week's executive producers are liam krauss uh erica anderson rachel sher, Misty Donahay, Joe Bonacore, Isabel Griffith, Derek and Lavanya,
Starting point is 02:40:49 Lavinia Adams, Jacqueline Hall, Guido Van Veen, Marcus Polite, oh no, Janine Fennell, that's what that is, Tanya Volinec, Cynthia Watson, no, that's Dotson, damn it, Cecilia Carter, oh, this this is gonna go bad today melissa melissa turner uh danielle butcher uh thank you guys so much we can't do this without you guys truly uh quickly uh walt walt murray he's been listening to us for like three years uh he lost his mom and he would go visit her and she's been battling uh but he'd visit her and then they'd talk about the shows and stuff together, and he would make her laugh. So thank you, Walt.
Starting point is 02:41:26 That's so cool. Thanks for having us be part of your journey. Yeah, man, thank you. That means the world to us. It really does. Yeah, man. And then Lonnie Hall lost her pup. Sorry, Lonnie.
Starting point is 02:41:32 Oh, sorry, Lonnie. She's one of my friends. Hang in there. Then we have Joanne Potter. Damn it, damn it, damn it. Jana Holbrook. And the rest of our producers this week are Kathy. This is going to be long. Kathy McAleer, Fiona Hollier, Grant Brand, Isaac Stemple, Danny Tapkin up in Minnesota.
Starting point is 02:41:52 Thank you. Taylor Gay, Aunt Rios, Shane Messer, Josh Thomas. No, Toombs. Sorry. Christopher Valdez-Frank, Keely Marshall, Tamara B., Donna Thornton, Elizabeth Jones, Talia Bruin, Jared with no last name, Sarah Schmidt, Amanda Dixon, Ashley Grenier, Nicole Ayers, Madison Grant, Farrah Kahn, Brett Trace, Lexi with no last name, Faye K. Garner, Craig McLallin, Richard Tower, Joe with no last name. Fake fake. Hey, Garner. Craig McLaughlin. Richard Tower. Joe with no last name. Ashley Keeler.
Starting point is 02:42:29 I said that. I think. No, I didn't. Brianna Worth. Rebecca Beckett. Bekenston. Christine. Christine.
Starting point is 02:42:36 Kristen. Kristen Merrick. Joyce Lewis. Kate Falconer. Riley Yetter. Laura. Laura Malone. Tony Dodson. Mark Davis. Liam. Liam. Liam. Liam. Liam Lee, John Quinlan, Sarah Jess No. Yeah. Sarah Jessen.
Starting point is 02:43:06 Brian Tucker. Cody Walker. Mazel. Paul Steinbeck. Steinbach. Andrea Rowe. Kent with no last name. Zoe Otway.
Starting point is 02:43:15 Joe. Joe. Josh Guido. Victoria. That can't be right. It's got to be right. That's what I wrote. Victoria Stoddard.
Starting point is 02:43:22 Mikey with no last name. Jody Tristan. Aaron with no last name. And that Tristan. Aaron with no last name. And that's A-I-R-E-N. Rebecca Smith. Aaliyah Hadfield. Lily Whitaker. Rachel Presley.
Starting point is 02:43:35 Evelyn Weaver. Michelle Smith. Brian Killian. Brian Haynes. Tasha. Tash Rossi. Gay Fosh. Stephanie Marie, Erica with no last name, Matt Pope, Larissa Milhouse, I think, Elizabeth Rankin, Lenita Buchanan, Colin Weaver, Adam
Starting point is 02:43:56 Clark, Anthony with no last name, Patrick Griffith, Amber Bonnet, yeah, no,ica willica will willica wilson probably willica april april bepene bependent dependent dip it i don't know april uh crystal christopher bryant she uh no shea shea beaten saint gudry gaudry st gaudry i don't know what i did steven barella uh julie whedon andy annie rose sorry annie uh i swear i'll get through all this gerald litzler uh sean sweeney kendall walt uh well it's in oh fuck caitlin paul lack christopher christina christina bowman sanders diana no d dean dianne Dean, Deanne, Deanne Flora, Doug Schroeder, Taylor Milloway, Drew Shanks, Sunil Mukherjee. No, I'm sorry, Sunil. Maros, or was that Marcus? Sarah Chapman, Ryan Wallum, Marshall Yarraris, Megan Amon, Jenny Orden, Chris Etter, Tracy Arrett. No.
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Starting point is 02:46:43 And I think it's a band. I hope it's them band i hope it's them i want it to be them thank you probably not uh lisa newman kira donahue christine duncanson uh duncanson uh denise yard madison with no last name brett sloan nicole bethel graham moore daisy with no last name kimberly jay uh swana kivara karaKera. Probably not. I'm sorry. I'm lost in the weeds. I know. Bennett Williams.
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Starting point is 02:48:22 that's Junior Johnson, Kathy Samuels ali whales katherine hume hamon uh gwendolyn lloyd vince uh opi san opi opi opi opi disano i think gwendolyn's last name is lloyd with one l you would be very happy about that there's not two like the fucking the liars uh holly hennessey no has h Hesse. Nikki Redmond-Corzen. Jesse Ryan. Jake Kokish. Michelle with no last name.
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Starting point is 02:53:15 I don't know. Rain, not a bow. Got it. Okay. I'm on board. David with no last name. Jay Shouse. Tyler Russell.
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Starting point is 02:54:40 i don't know how i got smith out of mitchell dumb. Megan Ozebrak, Orebrak, Orebrakt, Jonathan Phipps, Bradley Dooley, Patrick Sweeney, Andrea Acosta, Taylor with no last name, Greg Otto, Eric Klein, Crystal G, Tony Sandlin, Connor Forbes, Chris Spackler. That's gross. Brendan. No, that's Brenda uh brendan no that's brenda zapowski damn it la sissy nanny uh aaron silva joey mcjack joey mcintosh probably not the one from the band uh the new kids on the block is that his name yeah joe mcintyre oh you're right who likes him more than james nobody yeah josh nathan spencer jeffrey osterberg alex with no last name reverie novelle revel fowler uh derrick miller uh buyers what is that uh bars kahula i'm probably not
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Starting point is 02:55:57 Oh my God. Carbonell. Oh, that Eric Carbonell, Jonathan Ray Kessner, James Harris, Larry Demas, Maddie Kozlowski.
Starting point is 02:56:05 No, Klon, Klon. No, Klonzinski. Klonzinski. Something Polish. Rebecca Schmidt, Ashley Vio, Rach with no last name, Carrie Kirshner, Bug, Mod Author, Darlene James, Danielle Cassidy, Stafine, Stephanie. Stafine. Valentine. That's why.
Starting point is 02:56:22 Stafine. Put Stephanie next to Valentine. Try to try to say it fast if you don't go stephene you wouldn't uh sarah fudge tim plumber liz vasquez thanks liz thanks reagan shalkley louise rayfield wallace wallace woodwork daniel uh eisen einar inariski no einerson erickson i don't know what that is saskin shepherd mary with no last name uh peyton meadows andrew ditmer ditmer detimer uh jamie kors kors uh kazurga daisy parker uh michael stefani uh lucy stacy mike tolbert probably not that one uh oh that's holbert sorry uh allison plant joe joe c. Libby Ritchie.
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