Crime in Sports - #207 - A Mushy Minded Murder - The Audaciousness of Del Fontaine

Episode Date: May 5, 2020

This week, we go back in time to look at man who had it rough. He had over 100 boxing matches, back before we even knew what CTE was, the 1920's/1930's. This all resulted in bizarre behavior, culminating with a jealous outburst at both his mistress... and her mother. He admits to the crime, but will his diminished capacities keep him from hanging in London's gallows? This is a wild & crazy ride through history!! Go to the bathroom in a freezing hole in the ground, fight so much that you barely know where you are, and shoot to kill with Del Fontaine!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It's streaming. You can say anything. It's an all-new season. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. Hello and welcome to Crime and Sports. Yay! Yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host.

I am Jimmy Westman. Thank you folks so much for joining us. We are jacked this week. We're excited this week because we have a weird story. It's an old-timey story, which means lots of weird old-timey stuff and lots of newspaper clippings from the 20s. It's going to be fun. We're going to have a ball doing some old-timey stuff and lots of uh newspaper clippings from the 20s it's going to be fun we're going to have a ball doing some old timey stuff you read a lot of brown uh magazines this week oh i read some some sepia colored shit this week jimmy i've been in sepia heaven this week so

lots of instagram filters you know it all over it so i've been doing that tons of crazy stuff this week there's a wild crime. The whole thing is nuts. So you can see what it was like to be a brain damage boxer in the 1920s and 30s. Oh, good grief. Which was just brutal, basically. Sometimes they'd fight three times in a day. It's wild.

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So we went to, last week was War Machine. Right. As you know, hope you guys enjoyed also the bonus episode of the prison blogs of War Machine, which was a lot of fun. The self-importance of a man who beat a woman. I mean, granted, he hadn't beaten a woman yet. No. I mean, he'd beaten a lot of people.

He'd beaten a lot of people. And I'm sure some women got thrown in there in the middle of the bar fights he was tearing up. Sure. He broke glasses into a waitress's face. That wasn't very nice. Well, the self-importance of a man who wound up being sentenced to life. He really thought he was somebody. He loves him.

Yeah, he loves him. So we'll see. And he broke all the rules that we have. Everything that we've laid out, he broke. Jesus. But that thing was brand new. I mean, that story was, he was just sentenced a couple years ago.

So that was really pretty new. So I'm like, this week, let's go back a little bit. All right. By the way, next week, we're doing Scotty Pippen. Oh, great. The Bulls player. go so that was really pretty new so i'm like this week let's go back a little bit all right by the way next week we're doing scotty pippen oh great bulls player we never cash in on anything being timely let's do the last dance we never do it we always have it sitting there and we never do i'm always like yeah why why not everybody why let's not be successful let's let's lay back and because we're comics so we're like oh we don't want to hacky, but it's like no I've planned on doing this story. I didn't know shit that they were whatever. So Scotty Pippen next week. Everybody enjoy that. What a face on that man. It's he's one of the top 10 ugliest men in sports. Certainly one of the most recognizable. Yeah. For better or worse when we were when we talked to jay moore on that show we had a discussion of ugliest

athletes and he was his name was prominently thrown around in there in that mix very prominently very recognizable when you are better or worse when you get what it is bulls pacers in the 90s you have pippen reggie miller and rick smiths all on the floor at the same time it was like holy shit what the fuck happened on this floor throw bill cartwright's weirdly round head in the whole thing same thing it's a goddamn mess man disaster it's fucked up so anyway bill cartwright put goggles on that fucking thing why would he do that i hated every bull center they ever had. Cartwright, Wennington, Purdue. You never had a good one.

All of them. A bunch of garbage. Luke Longley later on, who then got passed along to the only two teams I like. Well, didn't he go to... Suns-Knicks. Didn't he go to the Dallas Mavericks, too? Who knows after the Suns and Knicks? It didn't matter. It was just garbage.

So, anyway. Let's move on to what we have today here. Let's do this. Our fellow of the day is Raymond Henry Busquets. Now, even if you've heard of the boxer, you've never heard of that name because that's his real name. What he was known as throughout the world

was Del Fontaine. Del Fontaine, which sounds cooler. Wait, that's his whole name? Well, his real name is Raymond Henry Busquets, but he goes by del fontaine del del fontaine which sounds like you're like a lounge singer that sounds cool yeah you know what i mean it's a blue shiny suit yeah i'm del fontaine it sounds smooth like you're gonna well in godfather johnny fontaine yeah was the guy that you know he was the slick uh you know famous

singer guy that's why i think that's popping into my head but this is pre that this is del fontaine which boxers back then nobody went by their real name no it's the weird now everybody goes by their real name they have a nickname back then nobody really had nicknames a couple people would be like dynamite joe you know it'd be like dynamite joe smith or something, but nobody would use their real name. Change everything. It was because it was marquee. It's all on the marquee. So we have to look cool.

And Raymond Bosket just doesn't look great. Whereas Del Fontaine sounds like international and it sounds cool. Plus, they did it almost like wrestling has done throughout the years where they really concentrate on people's ethnicities. That's their character boxing did that big time because they would try to get people yeah that way all of those that group yeah to buy tickets get all the eye ties get all the get all the polls yeah we got these two they did it they've done it in wrestling till like 20 years ago and they did it in boxing a lot back then that's why the irish thing being played up so hard and fighting is such a big deal. Absolutely.

That makes sense. Because you want every fucking Irish guy to empty out the firehouses and come to the show that night. You know, back then. So he'd be Irish Mickey whatever, Mickey Ward or whatever. Mickey O'Rourke. Yeah.

Irish this guy. Everybody was Irish back then. That's what it was. That was a big deal. Hulk Hogan, one of his first gimmicks was playing up that he was Irish back then. That's what it was. That was a big deal. Hulk Hogan, one of his first gimmicks was playing up that he was Irish. Stop that. Vince McMahon Sr. wanted him to be Irish.

That was the whole thing. Yeah, he was the whole... Six foot seven leprechaun. They wanted him to be Irish to get the Irish people out. Because in his mind, think about this, late 70s, he was probably thinking, okay, maybe I'll get one more thing out of Bruno

and we get the Italians and the Irish to kill each other in Madison Square Garden one night. We moved them all. He even had Pedro Morales, who was Puerto Rican, and half the crowd would be Puerto Rican, and he'd be fighting whoever. They had a Greek guy back then who had fucking every Greek person in New York would show up.

It was just the way it was. So Del Fontaine, he's a French-Canadian, Basquiat. Del Fontaine sounds more French a French-Canadian, Bosquette. Del Fontaine sounds more French. It sounds more international. It sounds more smooth. Do you think that embracing things like that

via sports is something that kind of encouraged racism around the country? Absolutely. For sure, right? That's what they were trying to do.

I don't know if it encouraged it, but it was mirroring it and then reflecting it back. It sure doesn't stop it. It was two mirrors reflecting back. It doesn't just say uh let's let's embrace your heritage yeah it's let's fucking embrace this one versus this one it absolutely even if it's not on the on the surface oh it is sure uh subliminally yeah they did that to the

it's only jerry cooney was the great white hope, everybody called him. They did that forever to try to make people... That's wild. They need to tribalize people for buying tickets. It helps. And it's exactly what they do with wrestling. I want to see a guy who wants... A group of people want to see one guy kick another guy's ass, and they'll buy tickets to watch it.

Here, they're just like, let's see if we can get half the crowd wanting one guy to get his ass kicked, half the crowd wanting the other guy to get his ass kicked. It's essentially a world war, one guy to get his ass kicked half the crowd wanting the other guy to get his ass kicked it's essentially a world war one guy at a time yeah and also too that would that would benefit the bookmakers of the time too because people would bet irrationally on their pride right in their in their heritage because they wear a horn on their chest absolutely you have no idea in all these newspaper articles how many times they play up like you know the frenchman said by the way the word i've been reading papers from the 20s and 30s yeah i have read the word negro approximately 700 000 times this last week yeah that's the only word in the newspaper that existed and back then

that was you know they're trying to be respectful that was like the newspaper respectful word but it was just weird to read constantly but it was always like he thinks he can take the negro and i'm like what calm down what the hell is happening my modern eyes were like no you'd be fired today but all right say that so and you should take it easy news week calm down jesus christ time magazine's really going hard i mean life has gone away from the pictures and the pictures cute kids and royal weddings and they've really gone to something else so dell is born february 2nd 1904 think about that oh 1904 yeah i don't his like i don't have much on his childhood because i don't know i don't know if they had any way of documenting i understand they did but the only

thing i can imagine is he i'm sure his parents beat him yeah because that's what they did back then and i guarantee you he grew up in canada and he was born in uh in winnipeg or uh in saskatchewan he moved to whatever. Lucky to be alive. Yeah, I guarantee you he shit in a cold hole at night. That's all I can tell you about his childhood. That'll make you fightin' mad. There was a cold, dark hole to shit in.

So, that's all I know. Now, I found, just to, I looked at a sports section from 1904. Just to get like a lay of the land of what's happening in 1904. Of what sports really was. What sports was. And I found an article just to give you an idea of the time rather than his childhood. Go over this because it's hilarious. Wow.

This is about how they're talking about in college. I'll just read it to you here. It says that they had a meeting. They have another meeting in two weeks. This Curtis guy. Curtis does not believe there will be any radical changes. This is about football. Although he greatly favors the adoption of a rule

that will permit the quarterback to run with the ball. This is in college football. That's how long ago this is. They're passing a rule for uh the qb sneak literally that he might be able to run with the ball like i'd be able to pass the line so then he says this is amazing uh quote there is nothing the matter with the present code of rules except in the point of clearness this talk about the game being brutal is sickening this is in 1904 by the way when they were like no helmets you were

allowed to do anything right clothesline people you can fucking forearm them in the teeth as they ran by it's brutal that's ridiculous is sickening yeah where one player is severely hurt in football a hundred are sent out into the world as perfectly developed men both physically and mentally if it wasn't for football and boxing our young men would be weak and inactive. What do people want to have collegians play? Croquet? Pinochle? Puss in the corner?

What the fuck is puss in the corner? He just called them pussies. No, no, that's a game, I think, from them. Puss in the corner. That's what it is. It's if you don't want to play football, what are you, a pussy in the corner? You play puss in the corner,

and people smack you and flick your ears as they go by. Who's that? Oh, he's Puss in the Corner. He's the MVP of Puss in the Corner. He's doing really great at it. Puss in the Corner and Who's Got the Button? That's another game, I guess. It is absolutely ridiculous to hear the constant cry, brutal, brutal, brutal.

Football is a gentleman's game played by men who believe in true sport and fair play. In my opinion, it is the greatest sport in all of the land. Excuse me while me and the other journalists go play Smear the Queer. Yeah. Well, that's just what they called football back then. Or, quote,

football, as the liberals like to call it. As the progressives are calling it these days samir the queer is just the guy holding the football yeah that's it actually no they mixed one actual guy that they thought was a little squishy in there and tried to murder him with their bodies that's what it was what the fuck well he was like i just i wore a red shirt i'm sorry i'm not i'm married i have four children i run a mining camp please i enjoy her body i swear stop hitting me good lord i dropped the ball stop putting it back in my hand so that that's 1904 right so that's

what this dude came up in a time when you know boxing was considered a gentleman's thing and perfectly fine to beat each other's faces and now he comes up he starts boxing it was about 21 when he starts boxing 20 does some amateur fights 21 his style the crowds loved him he's a a crowd pleaser but he's not the greatest boxer he's just insanely aggressive and has no defense wow like you google rocky marciano fighting that's this guy really same way same style the way it's described in every newspaper it's the same style puts his head down and comes at you dropping bombs and if you hit him great but he's gonna hit you hopefully harder and first and win that's that's his style but the crowd loves that that's like watching a fucking movie boxing match there's no he's not standing there bobbing and feeling each other out and tapping

gloves and doing all that shit it's bell rings i'm gonna fucking murder you so you're gonna either knock me out or i'm gonna knock you out it. Fun, though, to watch, I'm sure, especially back then. The gloves were not the same back then. First of all, they were a way less padded, way smaller. And back then, guys would put things in their gloves. Sure. They would make like what's highly illegal now and what actually people went to jail for in the early 80s. Wrapping your glovess wrapping your gloves wrapping your

hands and with paper mache getting your your wraps wet uh with that they would do that they would put um they would put thumb tacks in their in their gloves they would put uh to cause cuts they would put uh metal metal yeah they'd wrap metal over their knuckles this was fucking brutal times fuck yeah and unless it was a big fight these guys are fighting for a hundred dollars which was a lot of money back then you could die for a hundred dollars oh yeah absolutely i mean one of these fights could give you some good brain damage back then and if you did a lot of them like our guy did here do you do a lot oh we'll talk we're not going to go over every fight by the way we'll go over like if a guy has a funny name or something or some

shit like that some weird thing about it but i'm not going to go on june 14th in 1927 he fought you know boxcar mcgee and it went i'm not going to do that with every fight we don't have time also because he fought like 109 fights or something also oh yeah was he pretty storied in boxing a lot of people know who he is well yeah he was a at the time we'll talk about he became a canadian heavyweight middleweight champion at one point and the fact the way he bought he fought made him sought after people wanted to have him on their cards because people loved watching him he was even if he lost they didn't give a shit because he would put on a show period it's going to be a show so uh every kind every match he'd get the piss pounded out of him and he would take steps back and he

would turn and grin at the crowd like he was a showman guys back then didn't do that that much so he'd turn and grin at the crowd like a mouthful of blood mouthful of blood the crowd all fucking battered and shit and then you know go back in there and start throwing hands again i mean that's the type of guy he was so the crowd fucking who doesn't want to watch that guy fight? I want to see it. You want to watch that guy? I really do. Especially back then

when there's a bloodlust. I wish there was HD video of this shit. Oh, can you imagine? Oh my God, that'd be much better than anything on YouTube today. Oh, that'd be amazing watching some guy smile.

You want to watch some Asian woman open little girl's toys? No thank you. I'm going to watch Del Fontaine get the piss beat out of him. Yeah, I'm really tired of these. Okay. Any adults that are doing toy opening videos i feel like there are five kids tied up with these toys already up their asses waiting for their next round of whatever these people have in store for them that is not normal shit to do it's weird right and the way they do it is creepy and it

doesn't come across as like kindergarten teacher either it comes across as like look at this let me touch your butthole you know you look at this toy and i'll be around back their grasp on the english language also with the uh uh interest of the toy like it feels like it's very similar yeah they don't speak english well and they don't give a fuck about this toy they give a fuck about who's watching the american ones are really creepy oh i'm sure people like oh yeah oh boy like oh you look at the toy i'm gonna do a little circle gets the square on your but there's a lady that lives in scottsdale it's a little asian lady that does it and it is horrifying it's terrifying what she's doing because it feels like she wants my daughter to come over i don't like it when it's american couples that do not know if

they're together but it's a man and a woman oh and we had this one last time oh look he's so cute this one came with the cape seriously dude it's fucking disturbing it's really weird shit but you know what they're they're they crush. Yeah. Their mortgage paid means our argument is null and void. They work way less hard than me and you. And they probably, I'm sure, have way nicer stuff. With a team of people cleaning their pool. Joke's on us. Apparently, butthole diddling pays.

What are you going to do? How are we to know? James, I'm going to bring over LOL surprises next week, and we are going to open them. Let's do it. Oh, Jimmy. Look. Oh, this one's so adorable. I love the detail around the ties.

You think we could do it and fucking destroy with, like, no? No, they would sense the... They'd sense the sarcasm? The derision in our voices. They would just know it would be like oh these two assholes oh man they hate us and our children they're hate fucking these toys right now with like with positivity it's no good it's no good but they would never think we wanted to fuck their children never like these guys hate kids why are they doing this that guy's drinking beer that guy's

smoking weed while they open this what is happening they're like what stupid kid would like this piece of shit and he threw it across the room this is not i don't think for children get on ebay and buy shit from the 80s goodbye see you next week hey kid if you like this you're a fucking moron next let's open that one now the other piece of shit bring it to me that one yeah all right have your parents buy you an 80 action figure from 86 yeah and then open it right in front of them that's what i want open the omega supreme transformer i had like a whole village that's do that shit i'll watch you then this shit's bullshit piss money away and devalue toys you're opening that for me tiny little weird i don't even know what the shit that cost you five bucks yeah and you're

opening it and making a mint yeah fucking lol dolls and shit i want you i want you to lose money do that open castle gray skull and let's talk about it you know what i mean open the fucking get the skeletor castle with the little microphone open the six million dollar man do that shit that's what i want fuck yeah goddamn people so anyway so dell uh as a toy opener, people love him. Yeah. That's what he's doing. He's basically opening toys, opening their fucking skull. Yeah. Here's a quote from a newspaper back then. This is from some Davenport, Iowa newspaper that's long defunct, 80 years defunct.

Quote, Fontaine is a crowd pleaser. He fights not only in the first few rounds, but he keeps on battling from bell to bell. He is in the ring because he loves to mix and his offensive manners make him greatly welcomed by fans throughout the country. His offensive manners. Excuse me, sir. I'm going to punch you in the face repeatedly. My offensive manners. With any luck, you'll be unconscious soon.

You'll be unconscious post haste. Let's go. All right. He has a busy schedule, and he is the main go performer wherever he goes. So he's always the main event, because people actually will pay to watch him. Right. Just because they know it's going to be a fucking wild affair. That is showbiz.

So, I mean, yeah, it is showbiz. And I'm going to talk a little bit about that. I'm glad you picked up on that, because's a little theme here that we're going to. Because like I said, rather than going over a million fights that nobody goes to shit with fighters that no one's ever heard of. Rather than do that, I'm going to try to kind of kind of show time differences. This is almost 100 years ago. So and how this is the time when sports became kind of an entertainment and like a main thing when it draws when it draws we're going to talk about a lot a little bit through babe ruth because there's a there's a

weird correlation there's a parallel there's a little parallel here with babe ruth so anyway uh he he has his first match he's from he grows up in winnipeg anyway he's living in winnipeg when he starts fighting del del uh fontaine here he has his first match against a guy named sammy trap whose real name was sammy hudson but he boxing name was sammy trap with two p's uh as they put it here a fellow canadian from moose jaw so there's a place called moose oh fuck yeah jesus moose jaw so you got a couple of canadians out there like there's a couple of guys who've been shitting in awfully cold, dark holes their entire lives. Fontaine knocks him out in the fifth round, and he wins his next few fights, too, after that.

He wins his next three. He has a draw with one and then wins his next two. So not too bad. Nobody with really funny names here. He fights a guy named Jack Reddick a couple of times. Harry Dillon he fights three times for some reason. Fights Harry Dillon three times in his first eight fights. Really?

I don't know why he kept fighting Harry Dillon. Is there not a lot of people around where he's from that fight? I mean, I don't know. Canada? These are all Canadians he's fighting at first. Because back then travel wasn't as easy as it was now. And they're all so nice. Yeah. They're going to punch each other.

Okay then. Alright. Oh, you want to punch now? Okay then. So I'll punch you and then you punch me? Okay, sounds good. Do it over there on Moose Jaw. I'm going to give you a good open shot though, okay? Because I don't want you to miss and, you know, I don't want you to get your turn, eh? You've got to get points too, eh?

It's a very Canadian match. Takes a while to get going. We'll just put it that it takes a long time to get started no you go first no no you no hey back and forth come on now gentlemen wait go ahead hey go ahead so yeah back then you couldn't just fly a guy

in from Spain to fight you in Regina it just wasn't the yeah Regina he fights Harry Dylan one of the places he fights? Yeah, Regina. He fights Harry Dillon one of the times. His third Harry Dillon fight is for the vacant Canadian middleweight championship.

So this is like his seventh fight and he's fighting for the championship. This fight goes all 10 rounds, which a 10-round fight with this guy. Because these weren't 10 rounds of standing around going i'll put your dukes up i'm gonna and this was 10 rounds of fucking dropping bombs on each other if this guy's dropping bombs then the other guy has to be able to take it to take it and drive and come back with it he has no defense too so the other

guy's pounding the piss out of him he just keeps coming and coming he's like a freight train that's the one i want to see oh that'd be a great fight i want to see that anybody has that yeah just in case if you have that just on your phone or whatever real to real uh august 14th 1925 from uh regina saskatchewan i believe there uh no not saskatchewan where the fuck is regina regina it's uh where the pats are yeah i know i know that much either way if you have that fight, I'd really like to check it out. So Harry Dillon here is the champion. Dell loses that fight. His next fight, he fights a guy named Mark Moore.

This is interesting. At a place called Stadium Rink Moose Jaw. So I feel like this is for hockey. Yeah, it's a hockey rink. Yeah, it's probably freezing in there. Oh, boy. Very cold. They don't even thaw the ice no this is october 16th 1925 so it's cold in the first place no shit uh this fight goes six out of ten rounds and it's declared a no contest after the ropes give way the ropes break and both fighters fall out of the ring onto their heads. They were like

clutching and the ropes broke and they fell out onto their heads. Imagine putting through six rounds of that shit for them to say neither of you get anything. No contest it's called. Didn't happen.

Not even a draw. These bumps and bruises and all the brain damage from the concrete floor sure happened. I have two teeth left. Right. And I, this,

nothing. Nothing. They're in the back, too. Like, I can't even, like, smile. So.

Start an apple with these. I was going to say, my pizza eating days are over. I can't even, I can't get the slice out. So, yeah, that's,

that's, I thought was a funny thing that you don't see very often. You wouldn't see the ropes break and both fighters fall on their head and they call it a no contest nowadays it doesn't happen very often so uh yeah he fights a fights a man named maurice after that in montreal knocks him out in a couple of rounds this is a guy who was oh and one and he's like so i've lost two fights one nothing and my name is maurice it's time to call it a day in the fight game he's gonna go back to being a dad oh yeah i'll be dad instead now in 1926 in january he fights a guy

named jackie cohen who and by the way he's fighting like once a month his fights start in 1925 they are february 19th march 24th april 16th may 11th may, May 25th. That's three fights in a month. 17th and then the 25th. And the last one was an eight round win on points against the Harry Dillon guy. He went 10 rounds with two fights later. On eight days rest. Yeah. Then June 2nd, a week later, that is.

So basically four fights in a month. Then he has two months off and he has that 10 round loss in in august and then in uh october november and then january february of the next year at least once a month he's fighting uh he fights a guy named jackie cohen which just that's he sounds like somebody's manager or somebody's daughter or somebody's daughter. Little Jackie. This is at the Monument National in Montreal. And the referee stopped the bout here because Cohen had been floored for two nine counts in the third round. So it was one of the... He was really kicking the shit out of her.

Yeah, absolutely. You take that, you little... You listen here. Yeah. So you put your dolls down when I'm beating you. Knocked her down for three nine counts in the third round. Poor Jackie Coe got the shit counted out of her. I would say.

I think it was one of the three knockdown rule deals here because it's a TKO then. So that's in the fourth round this happens there. I guess third round. The Montreal Gazette from the time says third round uh boxer rex's fourth round i'm gonna go with the montreal gazette from the 1925 probably they were probably there so uh oh boy now this is interesting he fights mark mcintyre next this is his first match mark mcintyre he ends up with an 0-2 career so it didn't go well this is at monument national again the okay um the oh my god the um the was the way it's described in the

paper after referee boucher ordered mcintyre comma a maritime negro to his corner holy shit i was like um merit okay uh to his corner the boxer limped out of the ring instead claiming a sprained ankle so that was in his debut in his defense he wanted to call him a pirate end but he just i was gonna say that was a maritime negro that's the way i'm like that is what just no he's a boxer he's a boxer his name is mark right can we just say boxer mark you can say where he's from yeah that's cool because in boxing they say that a lot the frenchman the canadian the day job that's very strange he doesn't take this boxing thing serious wow um okay i guess he's just from an island is that what they're trying to imply i don't know it sounds like they're

calling him a fisherman i don't know what he just lives he's from the water we pulled him out of the gulf of mexico i don't know what he's trying to say here right either way they're being a little racist and uh on top of that that's mark mcintyre had two two fights total in his career sprained ankle and i don't know what the hell happened in the next one so uh finally the next fight is in april all these fights are crazy the next few uh this is a fight and at the forum in montreal 11 000 people in attendance for this fight wow a big fight he fights a guy named billy leonard who was a 30 and 8 fighter coming in so and 18 draws can you imagine that no 38 and 18 was his record entering this goddamn match this man uh this is a

dell wins the fight by disqualification in the seventh round uh it it says it took the boxing commission five minutes to declare a foul after le's second, his corner man, rushed into the ring and interfered in the fight in some way, shape, or form. And then five minutes later, they're like, he couldn't have done that. Well, they decided to call the fight and call a disqualification. I guess they were deciding what to do, whether to continue or whatever. And they decided to just disqualify Billy Leonard and give Del Fontaine the win. So Del is doing well for himself. On May 8th, 1926,

he fights Harry Henning. And Henning, no, that was Harry Dillon. Oh my God. Harry Henning. I imagine there's, fuck, 60% of the country had Harry as their first name.

A lot of Harrys, especially anybody, Canadians are under British rule, so you're going to get a lot of Harrys there. Harry's a very popular British name. So this is at the auditorium in Ottawa. And this is for the vacant Canadian middleweight championship.

And it goes only two rounds. Del gets a TKO win and becomes the Canadian middleweight champion of Canada. I was going to say of the world. Of everywhere Canada has across the world grace yeah this is grace right here he's a champion yeah he's feeling good and from then on his career picks up a lot as we'll talk about here uh he fights uh the next his next fight is his first fight outside of canada where he fights in Scheib Park in Philly. That's where the Phillies played at the time.

Really? Scheib Park. Yeah. It has the weirdest setup, Scheib Park. If you play any PlayStation baseball games from the mid-2000s, they'd have historic parks in there, and Scheib was always on there. It's a really weird square park. It's very strange. Is it like Earl Scheib Park? I don't think it's Earl. weird, like, square park. It's very strange. Is it like Earl Scheib Park?

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Yeah, not bad here. He then loses a fight to a guy named Frank Moody. Was that a championship fight? I believe so, yeah. Yeah, it's a championship fight. He loses the next one. This guy that he fought, Frank Moody, his record coming in, and this is in 1926, so imagine what he's been through. 108, 48, and 12.

Oh, boy. 168 fights he had already coming into this fight. He has earned that championship pelt. Fuck, yeah. And this fight goes all 10 rounds. It's a bedazzled beaver pelt. Oh, you know it. Oh, it is.

They don't even do a belt up there. No, this is a big pelt. How are you going to keep warm with that, eh? It's just a big pelt that says fucking well you know what probably says it in blood across and moose blood across the front champion i don't know what the hell they do up there so uh that's crazy yeah he fights a guy named joe anderson and it says uh anderson here this is a DQ again, which is strange. Dell wins by disqualification. It says here, quote, Anderson was just about out on his feet in round five from Fontaine's left hooks and threw a desperation left hand that landed low.

And he was throwing low blows on purpose and got disqualified for it. He's getting walloped. He's getting walloped, yeah. Is that Dell's thing, the left hook? For this guy, apparently. I mean, yeah. I don't know what the fuck he does. There's no footage of him.

Oh, really? All I have is newspaper accounts. That fight was at Dexter Park Pavilion in Chicago. So he got to fight in Chicago. His next few, he fights in Philadelphia. He fights a guy named Rocky Smith. So an original Rocky from 1926. In Philly.

In Philly, yeah. It was just fucking pretty amazing. Rocky Smith, too. He was probably like, let's make you less ethnic. What do you say? He loses on points to Rocky. He fights a guy named Rocky. Listen to these three fights in a row.

Guy named Rocky, next a guy named Lefty, and then a guy named Tiger. Rocky, Lefty, Tiger. Rocky Smith, he loses to on points. Not a human name amongst them. No. Knocks out Lefty Cooper in seven rounds, which is nice, in Portland, actually, at the armory.

And then fights Tiger Thomas, who I know is a black guy because I've seen a picture of him. He's a good fighter, Tiger Thomas. I just assumed they were all German shepherds. Not a normal person. Here, Tiger. Come on, Rocky. Come on, Rocky. Fontaine is knocked down in the sixth round here, but it ends up going all ten rounds, that fight.

And it's a draw, a point to draw. knocked down in the sixth round here uh but it ends up going all 10 rounds that fight and he it's a draw a point to draw so all that 10 rounds of brutality for nothing uh fights a golden gate arena in san francisco next yeah he fights a guy named joe roche that goes 10 rounds and he loses and uh we'll talk about a couple of these quickly here i have uh i have a couple of like newspaper clips from this time period apparently he uh once he won the title that's when he started fighting better fighters too like the bobby marriott guy was a good fighter uh frank moody was a welsh fighter who traveled all the way uh to you know just the continent over here to fight him. From the Welsh. Yeah, from Wales.

So on March 8th, 1927, here is the newspaper clipping from San Francisco. It says, Roche wins Nod in bout with Fontaine. And it says, Joe Roche, San Francisco middleweight, won a close 10-round decision over Del Fontaine of Winnipeg in the main event at the Monarch Club here tonight. The San Franciscan finished with a spurt, piling up a slight lead on his opponent. It sounds like he jerked off on him afterward.

He finished with a spurt. Piled it on. He covered him in a... It was a terrible bukkake scene afterwards. He piled it on. He literally said that. Him and his quartermen all... Piled it on.aculated all over him afterwards it's terrible it's goddamn terrible look like soft serve it was disgusting now this time march of 1927 the sports world is up in arms

because babe ruth just got a new contract. Okay. And people are mad at him. They're furious. Furious. Wait till they find out about his candy bar money. Oh, boy. Yeah. There's articles that start out.

These articles are all bullshit back then. But there's articles that start out where, you know, little kids coming up to the babe going, say it ain't so, babe. Tell me. That's where it came from? You didn't take all that money. Well, that's what everybody would say going say it ain't so babe tell me say that's where it came from you didn't take all that money oh that's everybody would say say it ain't so babe tell tell me you didn't take all that money they said babe would feel ashamed and walk away because he's making money yeah it's it's weird dare you be ashamed especially successful this is in the 20s and he's fucking babe ruth it's not not like he's stealing money. He's the goddamn greatest player that ever lived by tenfold over at this point in time. He's hitting-

It's ridiculous. Two years before that, three years before that, he had more home runs than every American League team- Combined. Yeah. It's nuts. He's crushing. Right.

As a fat man. As a fat man. It's unbelievable. He hung over all the time it wasn't every team it was he had more home runs than any any other whole team but individually so people were mad that his new contract at the time pays him five thousand dollars less than the president of the united states at the time they're outraged that a baseball player would dare think he's as important as the president of the united states and take a similar salary i don't know outraged president

when he was uh well this was probably herbert hoover in 27 so i think he's better no that was a one-term coolidge whatever so anyway i think babe ruth is better he's a little bit especially if it's hoover is especially hoover he fucking plunged the country into goddamn depression how many times a day is hoover's name mentioned versus babe ruth that's what i'm saying it's a babe wins babe wins he should have gotten more money people were super pissed you know how much he was making back then what is that uh ninety five thousand dollars a year seventy grand he was making wow he was making 70 apparently the president was making $70,000. Apparently, the president was making $75,000 a year back then, which is amazing. They've only made $25,000 a year more in 100 years?

I think it's $450,000 now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. $400,000 is the presidential salary. Yeah, a year. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a year. That's pretty solid. Well, it's not really that great if you want somebody decent, because you could do that

back when CEOs got paid that, but now you can either go be the head of some horseshit company that nobody gives a fuck about with a $75 million golden parachute. Or you can have the entire world be up your ass with a fucking microscope for less than half a million dollars a year. What would you rather do? Yeah, you have to be a maniac narcissist to want to be president now. But when you leave that office, president now you can just go do speaking engagements that's true huge money half a million a pop half a million a pop but you could do that if you were the ceo of some company that's a great point you don't have to because you'll have a you'll have you'll never do hundreds of millions of dollars you don't have to that's why they don't

do speaking engagements nobody wants to hear from the guy ken lay no he dead i think i hope so because he was a fucking asshole. Well, yeah, especially if you're a disgraced CEO. But that's what CEOs are all, right? I mean, at the end of the day, everyone that leaves a company is pretty much a scumbag. It's a guy in charge of getting your stock price up. That's all he is. That's all he does. He's beholden to stockholders who tell him, do this and that, make the stock.

So it doesn't matter. Yeah, he has to do whatever it takes to make these people happy. Otherwise, never mind. So Babe Ruth't matter. Yeah, he has to do whatever it takes to make these people happy. Otherwise, never mind. So Babe Ruth, $70,000 a year. They're pissed at him for this. Keep in mind, the year before, in 1926, he hit.372 with 47 home runs. Ridiculous.

.372? Yeah. And then in 1927, his first year of this new big contract everyone's so mad about, he only hit.356 with 60 home runs, a record that would stand until Roger Maris broke it, and then whatever. So, yeah. Unbelievable.

If anybody's worth any amount of money, it's fucking Babe Ruth. So there's this article, though, holy shit, where they go into the sociology of what this is going to do to the world, basically, here in the newspaper in 1920. Giving him that money. Giving him. Where all this money comes from, this is where it comes from. This is where, okay, listen to this shit.

Okay. The effects of these revelations will become obvious in the very near future. The revelations of, you know, athletes being paid a lot of money and people. Quote, this is a commercial age. That was a commercial age that was a commercial age then this is a commercial age and the youth of the land will want to become presidents instead of babe roots of course he's saying if you don't do this of course there will be a few who will retain enough of their boyhood ideas to exclaim i would rather be left-handed than president but

the majority will look upon the babe as an idol with plaster of Paris feet. The political outlook for the future is ominous. Good. They're saying that people will be mad at this and not want to be like him and make them more to want to be the president, basically. He says, quote, you can work out your own statistics as to what the babe's new salary may mean oh what our one statistician figures that the babe is being paid four dollars and 33 cents a minute what of it as mr tennyson did not put it better 50 years

of babe ruth than a cycle of other of the other batters there's a lot of young men swinging bats in the big leagues about 400 of them and there's only one babe ruth in other words people pay money to watch this guy swing a fucking bat that's why he's worth it but this guy's saying four dollars and 33 cents a minute are you kidding me i have current statistics by the way we'll get to in a second that's fucking crazy so he goes on the opinion in the ivory market is that colonel jacob rupert got a bargain that's the owner of the yankees back then got a bargain even if he is paying more than appears on the face of the contract also the babe is regarded as something of a philanthropist in signing for that amount instead of holding out until the

yankees bookkeeper had a chance to verify the report that enforced absence of the babe for 40 days a few years back caused a deficit of something like 150 000 in the annual gate receipts he's downright charitable for signing for this yeah that's they're saying because if he just said i don't feel like it no one would come and watch that's basically they're saying here um wow The payment of this salary to the former cigar maker of Baltimore will cause... Dude, they have so much disdain for him. To the former cigar maker of Baltimore. He's been in the major leagues for 11 years at this point. He's been a star.

He's won like six rings. He was the best pitcher. Then he was the best hitter. And they're like, former cigar maker of Baltimore. Wow. That's what they're calling the babe? That's the babe. He made cigars?

When he was a kid. Really? Yeah, he grew up in a Baltimore orphanage and knew how to do cigar making. That's what they used to make the kids do. And that's what they're calling him now. They said the former cigar, trying to just take it down who he is. What he is at his roots. He's not the president.

He's a dirty, filthy cigar maker from Baltimore, which is dirtier than being a cigar maker. The former cigar maker of Baltimore will cause much deploring and viewing with alarm concerning the distortion of relative values. Wow. It will be pointed out that a good head of the Department of Psychology in an average university only gets about five thousand dollars a year. in an average university only gets about $5,000 a year. But Ruth is being paid $70,000 a year because he's worth more in the matter of making the gate receipts accumulate. It may be true that we're a nation of morons. That's amazing.

In 1927, they thought they were a nation of morons. You should see now. This guy would step out of a car, look around, and say, where's the nearest sharp object i can plunge into my heart holy fucking shit are you kidding me morons ben we got dumber holy fuck people can understand what he's saying then people now just go oh there's a lot of words whoa i understand may be true that we are a nation of morons but we're a nation of well-to-do morons with the cash to pay for our entertainers this is pre-depression by this is roaring 20s so

at that mr ruth is not the most expensive of our entertainers his work is comparatively arduous there is for instance mr gene tunney who $750,000 for his next appearance, which will be brief and probably not too exacting for the present crop of logical contenders, is not particularly formidable. After two fights, Mr. Tunney will be in a position to leave the prize ring very flat indeed with a million and go into some business. So they're saying a boxer will make more. Gene Tunney was a big boxer.

He'll make $750,000 for aney was a big boxer he'll make 750 grand for a fight true but he'll also have to get his brains beaten out and that's a big difference so yeah they're bitching about babe ruth now four dollars and 33 cents a minute okay uh checking this out now uh from this one site i found here um nfl players make the most per minute but mlb players right now make 307 a minute for each game they play 307 a minute nfl players make uh make uh 2709 a minute but there's less minutes but there's less less minutes yeah absolutely now i found what the median salaries are here and everything like that. You're just going by average salary and average length of career.

Your average MLB, everything. Median salary, $8,750,000. And the average career lasts 5.6 years. So you can do the math. That's hard, though, because if you only play five years, you never get a big contract. Right. And you probably didn't get anything near $ million a year big contract or not no well you would later but not in your first five years you'd make nothing so uh yeah it's do you think that's

fucking oh i can't 433 yeah let's try that shit that's a lot more their heads would have fucking exploded nation of morons i mean it's crazy that's crazy but not it's you know it's not it's not even close to as crazy as the sales jimmy oh the sales yeah in 1927 oh so if you happen to be this is i did this episode almost exclusively to do sales from the 20s uh if you happen to be in oakland california in 1927 i don't know what's there buy as much land as you can yeah first of all i'll tell you that just i know it just seems like fields and in the 80s it's gonna get bad i understand that go across the bay buy as much of san francisco i know i know you're like oh it's full of chinese i understand you're you're you're concerned 20s person right but see, that's going to be worth, a two-bedroom apartment is going to be worth more than five

years of Babe Ruth very soon. So get used to that. Yeah. So if you happen to do that, go down to Dempsey and Sanders and get, they have the new tires in, Jimmy. Oh. Goodyear has figured out tires. We have it.

Goodyear's new balloon tire. Oh. You know, a tire with air in it not just a solid rubber fucking tire just a disc brand new yeah this was just came out tires with look at we have it good year's new balloon tire drive-in service quality tire repair and retreading down on jackson street and uh and how much are they uh it doesn't say they don't even tell you they don't tell you they don't want you to know They don't tell you. They don't even want you to know. They don't want you to know.

That's a new product. That's going to be way great. The CEO is about to super eclipse Babe Ruth. Hold on. You want air in your tires? Calm down, Chief. You can go over down to Arthur Ramage Company here. A nice man from the 20s holding up a pair of pants, as you can see there.

Those are Ramages. Oh, yeah. You can get two pants uh and suits for 35 dollars two two suits nice san francisco one oh yeah collegiate models conservative models new tan bark browns and uh choice double twist fabrics wow and just received new crushers from italy special only 385 i don't know what that means 1920s the cabaret i think so yeah that's all it was lots of pleats everybody crushers go down to the 10th street market at washington and clay for specials here oh boy this is awesome here grocery specials from then first

of all what the hell people were buying yeah uh let's see we have uh phillips's big four pancake flour a four pound bag for 23 cents that seems steep that's four pounds of flour for 23 cents for 1920 four pounds a lot seems expensive pancake flour i don't know if it's a special kind of flour use it for bread i'm not sure probably not coffee one pound carton 38 cents cents. That's a deal. Roman meal, large package. Is that bread? The Roman meal bread, 33 cents. Yellow cling peaches, oh boy, 12 and a half cents. A tin.

Yeah. A tin. Gross. Matches, large box, three boxes for 10 cents. Deal. I'll take it. Strawberries, preserves, three pound for 66 cents that's a good deal three pounds jar it's a lot of strawberry reserves uh shortening one pound something and

40 cent rubber apron both for only 39 cents oh seems like a steal there council sliced dried beef what 11 cents council sliced dried beef jar 11 cents gross a jar of dried beef i don't want that is that jerky i don't fuck it i hope so dried beef uh pearline large package i don't know what that is 19 cents cents. Sounds like a canned meat. I guess. A 50 cent set of six aluminum individual size gelatin molds and six packages of royal fruit gelatin. So you could make Jell-O. Gross. Six individual molds so you can give everybody a little mold. 59 cents for everything.

Not bad. Now let's get into the meat here. I don't think that price has changed at all. No, it's the same shit. I think it's the same price. It's the same thing. Some things never go up like that uh what comedy clubs pay openers you think we're kidding they pay openers the exact same in 2020 that they used to pay in 1990 right so you know another business where the rate of pay hasn't gone up at all in 30 years

even fucking if you're on the street a fucking half and half is going to be more than that. I mean, there's inflation in blowjobs. There's no inflation in... Jesus Christ. All the people were thrown quarters in the 90s on freeway off ramps, and now they're given a dollar. You know what I mean? Yeah, it floats.

That and skateboards. Yeah. And when I was... Like, 1992, I saw an old ad they were like 40 bucks and i just bought a board the other day for 43.99 not bad 30 years four dollars it's good stuff so we have a lean plate corn beef uh for nine cents what the fuck filet of fanon what the shit is that finnan filet of finnan i don't know 25 cents they hadn't called it fish yet it was finnan finnan it's got fins and and stuff small california hens

picture i'm still alive uh 27 and a half cents what was this half cents i don't know easter's salt pork 24 and a half cents picked mushrooms, 20 cents a pound. That's a good deal. Sandwich rolls, two dozen for a quarter. That's good shit. Heinz dill pickles, five for 10 cents. I like that. Not bad at all.

And then some box of chocolates for 33 cents as well. Everything's in cents. Not so bad. And then if I saw another ad here, there's a couple more that are pretty funny. I saw another ad. You's a couple more that are pretty funny i saw another ad you're gonna love this and it says top of the big letters it's joy to take this laxative that's what it says huge letters that's the headline that's the i mean advertisement if the font size let's say the regular article font size was a 10 this is a 55 it's a fucking huge letters it's joy to take this lax and not a joy joy it's just pure joy to have shit flowing from your asshole at an uncontrollable rate you're gonna love it the world's easiest beachums it says 25 cents and 50 cents cleans

out bowels in a night. That sounds like a threat. 25 cents for the regular, 50 cents for ultimate. Cleans out bowels in a night sounds like a threat. It does. Clean out all your bowels in one night. Boy, Jesus. That's like why I don't want to go to prison. That sounds like you're going to be shitting the bed.

Pouring out of you. Oh, help me as it trails behind you. It says, here it is. Here's the pitch. I love everything back then, too. It wasn't just a thing. It was like they had to convince you with a paragraph. Quote, children don't mind it a bit. They love shitting their brains out, kids.

Do they mean when they take it or when I take it? Either way, they don't mind. Small, round, and sugar-coated. Easier to take than most laxatives. And so gentle beach speech cleans out the bowels and tends to promote liver and kidney function thereby stimulating the three most important element of centers most like wow that must have been some 20 shit kidneys liver and your oh got it okay um yeah most laxatives work only on one or two. Only on

one or two? What else? What does that mean? Oh, okay. Got it. One works with your kidney or your liver. Oh, yeah. This one works all three. They should all work your asshole, I would say. We'll add the others to it. Somehow I took a laxative. It's still hard, but I can piss everywhere.

So weird. Strange. Most laxatives work on only one or two for good health you must act on all three results are quick no headache no nausea a clear tongue and you feel like a new person get beachums at any drugstore for 100 years the safe vegetable laxative yeah 100 years of shitting your brains out you know do they mean that's how long the business has been going 100 years or you only need one pill and you will shit for 100 years a century of shitting you'll never hold anything down again also i found here phonograph radios oh yeah let's get to because we always do technology

these are so good this is the only technology there is back then these probably went up these are worth more today yeah these are expensive for back then too here this is uh at cost and are going fast uh let's see they have many wonderful bargains still available genuine orthophonic victrola console model is 135 dollars 12 i guess i don't know what 12 victrola cabinet models never off the floor floor, $49.50 on sale from $125. That's the one with the horn, right? I don't know. That's a phonograph, yeah. They have Edison Laboratory model, was $295, now $145.

This is fucking crazy. $145 Hepplewhite model and two Queen Anne model sonora consoles for 145 bucks that shit if you had like those in good condition right now would be worth so much fucking money unbelievable amounts of money also several five tube tonodine radios are only 65 dollars okay uh edison records at cost one dollar records are now only 65 cents a dollar 50 or 95 two dollar records are a buck 25 my goodness portable phonographs now what portable how do you take that it's not a giant console it's one you can it's still heavy as fuck that's weird it's not like a disc man or anything it's a it's just a big giant thing that's not on your back that's not bolted to the ground right uh was 27 50 now 1950 uh kent radio model 20 demonstrator 50 bucks five tube kennedy radio magnavox yeah new five tube built-in speaker 95 bucks even how much 95 was back then

so you could buy a fucking car for like 200 back then uh yeah all of these things uh other radios 25 come on down to oakland phonograph company at 473 12th street in oakland small down payment and they'll deliver so there's that so these people wanted like the most uh high paid person person in America to be the president of the United States. Is that what they wanted? Yeah. He's the idea.

Yeah. They're like, how can someone like, well, they know that also you have to think about this too. There was a real difference in education levels of people back then. There was plenty of people who finished the third and fourth grade and worked on a farm back then. there was plenty of people who finished the third and fourth grade and worked on a farm back then so the people who were college educated journalist types were very hoity-toity got it so they looked that's an intellectual he brought up a professor of psychology only makes this so he's saying these

intellectual you know pursuits are worth more money but this moronic bullshit of some fat guy swinging a bat and having a bunch of drunks cheer yeah is not worth anything is what he's saying so he's looking down on the whole just the whole culture of anyone being into sports or anything like that he's the original uh asshole from undisputed yeah he's yeah exactly he's skip bayless he's the original version one yeah i'm gonna write about sports but hate everything about it. I'm going to begrudgingly write about something that I wish I had the talent to play. That would be great. If I wasn't such a little pussy douchebag, frosted dildo.

Skip Bayless, you fucking jackass. If I had any sort of talent for any sport, I would do it. Once a year. But instead, I'm just going to write bitchingly and complain about it. Instead, I'm going to get different shows all the time where I find a different black man to argue with because that's my talent. I'm going to be mad about it. He knows. He's like, I'm going to be a douche.

I'm going to play up my fucking Christianity and my Texanness and all that shit, and then I'm going to argue with black people. And that's going to be the draw of the show. Fuck. So one more ad here. Largest and fastest steamers to be the draw of the show. Fuck. So one more ad here. Largest and fastest steamers to New York here. The SS Finland. The SS Finland. So this is if you want to sail from San Francisco to...

Or from Oakland to New York. Okay. All the way around. On a boat. Yeah, because there's no... Yeah. You want to go... But you've got to go all the way down.

You want to go down and around. Panama's not built yet, is it? I don't think so. You've got to go down and around. Wow. This is around when they were building that stuff. You've got to go down past way down go down and around panama's not built yet i don't think they're gonna go down and around this is around when they were gonna go down past south america yeah this shit is holy shit yeah largest and fastest steamers to new york via panama canal so this is what it is i remember it around this time being built panama canal and havana so you go around all the way the fuck that's a trip that is. Fortnightly sailings thereafter. $275 for a first-class cabin, which is fucking expensive back then.

$150 for second and $100 for third, including meals and birth. I don't know what that means. Happy, refreshing days on great ships through the Panama Canal by daylight. An opportunity for sightseeing in gay Havana. Only the gay neighborhood, apparently, are going to go in. Hey, look at the gays there. There's more of them. Hey, look at him.

He's sashaying right in front of that parade. Look at him go. Let's get out there and smear them all. All right, see? Somebody throw him a ball. It's not legal unless he has a ball, pal. There he goes. Okay, let's take his head off.

Get him. Get him. So, yeah, you can do that you sail all the way around to new york so uh anyway fighting again 1927 he fights joe roche uh who we talked about that was the fight he lost in 10 rounds uh to points uh next fight he loses again this is in the golden gate arena in san francisco goes all 10 rounds again, loses on points. He fights a guy named Oakland Billy Harms after that. Oakland Billy.

Oakland was down three times in the third round, and then once in the fourth, and once in the fifth, and finally that fifth round he's knocked out, and Dell wins that fight. Then he loses three in a row after that. One to a man named Rene. That had to hurt. Rene DeV, I mean, that had to hurt.

Rene DeVos. Oh, boy. And then Vincent Forgione. He fights twice and loses both times. Once on points and once knocked out. So, it's tough going. And those are both in Philly. Then he's going to Tacoma, Washington.

Look at him fighting Art Regan, who's making his debut. He needed a win here. The one guy he fought, Rene DeVos, by the way, coming into this fight. 111 wins, 12 losses, 18 draws. That's a seasoned fighter, man. She is strong. She's tough. And getting revenge for Jackie Cohen,

that's the problem, too. Did you beat Jackie? Jackie's sister, Rene. Jackie told me what you did. Fuck no. Let me tell you, you get in that fucking ring dell i swear to god i'm not taking this shit from you dell you're not gonna hurt her again get in that ring that was my ex-father-in-law's name renee renee perfect that guy spelled my name

wrong constantly do you have a little accent anything or no so he he beats the shit out of art regan to get his mojo back a little bit here then he fights a guy twice in a row named young george dixon as opposed to old george dixon old old yeah here uh he wins the first fight loses the second fight they both go all 10 rounds oh my god so 20 rounds with this guy and that was uh one fight was on uh october 25th and the next one was on november 15th so in less than three weeks they fought each other 20 rounds holy shit james this is so much 20 rounds in less than a month yeah well this is 1927 was the same thing in march he fought the 8th then he fought march 15th again yeah and those were both 10 round fights he fought two 10 round fights in a fucking week his brain is still

swollen from the last fight i couldn't go around a day for 10 days think about that he's doing 10 in a row think about that man your brain is still fucked up from 10 rounds a week ago and then uh april 5th 20 days later he's fighting again may May 4th, June 6th, July 25th. It just fucking never stops, man. It's insane. Then he fights in December of 1927, Walcott Lankford here. And he wins this fight. Guess what?

Goes all 10 rounds. So he has his last, let's see, what is that? Seven fights. 10 rounds so he has his last let's see what is that seven fights he has had uh five go the distance and uh one go seven out of 10 rounds he hasn't felt his fingers since 1923 jesus christ he hasn't known where he is since 1926 so december 28th 1927 this is from the winnipeg tribune here a little article here it says quote, Mickey Forkins is good boxer. That's the headline. Mickey Forkins is good boxer.

A lady from YouTube wrote that. Yeah, exactly. Very cute. LOL. He is good boxer. It is hard to open box. Hard open box. That's awesome.

Oh, shit. hard open box that's awesome oh shit so he's good boxer del fontaine will meet with stiff opposition on january 3rd yeah stiff watch out del fontaine claimant of the canadian middleweight championship will meet the stiffest kind of opposition when he fights when he meets mickey forkins of columbus in the main go of a Jack Consilla's boxing card, the Walker theater Forkins by reports is a very capable boxer and has met many well-known fighters. Okay. His recent victory over Walcott Lankford of Chicago,

who extended Fontaine to the limit here recently stamps him as a real contender for middleweight honors fontaine after his triumph over lankford has settled down to a steady training and and at the present and is in fine shape for his coming battle with the columbus middleweighter so uh that's that's a one thing that's going on there also in december of that year babe ruth does a gym workout and they there's the press is all there they're talking about how much he does how he how he conditions now and no he does not he was fucking drinking booze while they were talking to him probably smoking while he just wrote he just was too good of a hitter it didn't matter so they said quote there's a possible uh they asked about the record and uh he said uh he said quote there's a possible chance of asked him about the record, and he said, quote,

there's a possible chance of breaking it again if they keep tossing them at me. Okay. He says that he doesn't think there's that much change in the ball. He said, the thing that's helped is throwing so many new ones. Fellas can see them now. This was after the time, right about 1920, they changed to where the balls had to be in half-decent shape. Right.

Before that... You can't throw them a dirty one constantly. Before that, the guys used to get tobacco juice on their hands, rub it into the ball, so you couldn't see the fucking ball. That was what they used to do. It blends in with the dirt. That's exactly what they were trying to do.

It's coming down a dirt track. Yep. If it's brown, you miss it. Exactly. Or you don't see it quite as good. So now they've done it to where these balls are replaced more often. Now that people are coming to watch baseball here uh he's a fella a fella can see him now said the boys have nearly all changed their way of hitting now used to choke their bats now they swing from the hips this is babe ruth talking uh only one or two choke hitters left

like joe dugan and dave bancroft who were good hitters. He said, quote, no, there wasn't any pitcher that gave me much trouble last season. All looked about alike. I was just hitting them, that's all. And then they asked him about Lou Gehrig, and he said, Lou Gehrig? There's a great kid, always working hard. How funny is it? Like, he was a young guy, Lou Gehrig, then. There's a great kid, that Lou Gehrig.

I don't even see him as a kid. This whippersnapper. Lou Gehrig's a great kid that lou garrig i don't even see him as a kid this whippersnapper lou garrig's a great kid how funny is that he's got a fucking disease great kid wow uh yeah there's a great kid i mean his disease is a piece of shit but i'll tell you what i know i've done all i could all i could to help him and i hope he has another great season more competition there is, the better. I like it. They said, how much longer are you going to play? He says, I don't see

why I won't still be going strong at 40. I'll only be 34 next February. They started counting me out five years ago when I kicked up a little fuss. Feel better now than ever. That's the Babe Ruth interview. So there you go.

That was the biggest star of the time. Oh, boy. Just talking about it there. He's not even fun to listen to. No, he's just a dude that's so important to a sport who gives a shit what he has to say. Also, how terrible is it that Lou Gehrig's disease is just as popular name as ALS?

You know what I mean? It is. Lou Gehrig disease. It is just as like popular name as als you know what i mean it is you know it's just as representative you know like the first guy that got aids that would be terrible to be like yeah died of john smith's disease yeah john smith jimmy wisman disease is terrible jimmy wisman died of a fucks you up man jimmy wisman disease somebody played circle gets the square on his butthole and then there he is so i haven't got a problem gotta find it over to a youtube party so that's what goes on so yeah he was jesus a fat bastard so he goes on anyway this uh del fontaine here he's fighting he fights mickey forkins he beats

him in a 10 round fight and then a month later he fights red Ulan. Okay. Another 10-round fight, he wins. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Bing! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period.

Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door.

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His next two after that are both 10-round losses, which are brutal. So four fights in a row of all. In three months, he has 40 rounds of four different fights he's getting pummeled on. He fights a guy named Dave Shade in March of 1928, and he was knocked down in the fourth round. And after that, it ends up going all 10 but it was a unanimous decision for Shade. He beat the shit out of him. He fights a guy named Tuffy

Griffiths. Tuffy Griffiths. That's a fighter? That's a fighter. He loses to Tuffy in the second round. He gets knocked out. He fights Dick Daniels in 1929 here. First round knockout for dick daniels or for for dell against dick daniel wow so knocks him out in the first round he needed a comeback fight

because he's been going the distance and losing fights and everything else uh fights dick daniels again knocks him out in the first round in in uh january of 29 and then three weeks later, on February 5th of 1929, he fights Daniels again, and it goes all ten rounds, and he loses. Wow. How do you go from knocking someone out in the first round to all ten and losing in a month? Very weird. Fights Tiger Roy Williams, another Tiger, in Flint,

and knocks him out in the fourth round. Fights Norman Wilson up in Moose Jaw. Yeah. Heading home to Moose Jaw. Yeah. Heading home to Moose Jaw. Don't go home, Del. Oh, man. TKO in the third round. He won there.

He won there. February 1929 here. Now, there's an article about him that is hilarious. This is trying to be complimentary, but the title of it is, quote, Not Clever Boxer. Oh, no. And it says, quote, Del Fontaine is not clever.

That's the first sentence, period. Del Fontaine is not clever. All right, then. And we go from there. That much the fans should know. However, he makes up for this deficiency by his terrific punching. The punching that put Red Ulan, a one-time favorite here, out of the ring business. Fontaine's hands have a disastrous effect on their targets,

and the fact that he can hit equally hard with both hands stamps him as a boxer whom the leaders like to sidestep. He's a guy that, that's the other thing, too. He's a guy that the top guys don't want to fight, really, because he's a wild man. He's not a guy that you can really don't want to fight, really, because he's a wild man. He's not a guy that you can really figure out, and he's so nuts, he might knock you out and around and embarrass you and fuck everything up, or you might be able to just pummel him for 10.

Who knows? But it's going to be an adventure. He's not clever, though. He's not clever. But they said, quote, the Canadian has it, and they put in quotes, it. The Canadian has it and plenty of it to prove this it might be cited that he fought 17 consecutive main go events in portland oregon so 17 consecutive main event main event thing so it's pretty good anyone who can do this in the ring

uh and has color in chicago he is known as kid dynamite and has and his and the string of victories he has chalked up in the windy city would do credit to a champion calm down with that phrase so yeah and give it a few more years because you're about to see a kid dynamite for sure oh shit so that's pretty funny though that they that they in chicago he's known as this because everything was localized there wasn't any national thing it wasn't like the internet wasn't like hey i read online that they call i read in that reddit sub that they call him fucking right you know also chicago might not be getting all the all the guys that san francisco is getting no they're not they're not it's a total they're separate circuits completely except for the top top guys he says quote del fontaine came out of

the north with everything to win and nothing to lose. In fact, there were those who thought that the Canadian title would be more of a detriment than an aid. However, the Winnipeg fighter is not the type to rest on his laurels. He did not hold his crown in front of the promoters and demand exorbitant purses. Instead, he went into the ring and proved his worth, as many of his victims can tell. Red Ulan was a comer in the squared circle. He landed in Chicago after a good crusade on the Pacific Coast. He's a comer in the circle. That's hot.

Yikes. He's going to come in your circle. He was going along in fine shape until he bumped into Del Fontaine. He's going to square against the circle. Oh, he's going to circle against the square. The Canadian did not knock him out, but he hammered him so unmercifully, so much that shortly afterwards, Ulan gave up fighting. He's just a tough guy. Humbled him into quitting.

Humbled him into quitting. Here's a fight. This is from the 4th of July, 1929. The Leader Post in Saskatchewan. They say Moose Jaw Battler disqualified for holding in third round in about 1500 to 10. Says howls of disapproval went up from the 1500 throats in the stadium ring tonight when Del Fontaine, Winnipeg boxer, was given the decision over Norman Kid Wilson of Moose Jaw in a slated 10 round main bout. Referee Pete Cleland of Regina warned Wilson in the second and third rounds about his not breaking, and the decision was given for holding.

The fight in the first two rounds gave promise of providing some real fistic entertainment. Fistic entertainment? Whoa. That is, I feel like there's a whole sex industry that hasn't realized that's a word. Fistic entertainment, I feel like, is a whole subcategory of something. Right? Yeah.

That's what they're going to call it? So Pornhub's going to have fistic entertainment category, I'm sure, from now on. Whoever founded Regina, didn't they at least go, ah, too close? No, we can't do it. Within two sentences, the words Regina and fistic are both here. I can't have this. They're right there. I'm sorry. As a comedian, I have to say something about that.

As a 12-year-old in a grown man's body, I really have to say something about Regina and fistic in the same sentence. Fistic entertainment. That's awesome. I've never heard that term ever. I didn't even know that was a word. Neither did I. That's why I was like, it says fistic entertainment that's awesome never heard that no term ever i didn't even know that was a word neither did i that's why i was like was that say it says fistic fistic entertainment for the fans and hundreds were and hundreds were disappointed when it came to its

abrupt ending wilson was given a slight edge in the first and delph and fontaine a similar edge in the second fontaine held the edge until the fight uh on the fight until the third when the referee gave his decision just a few seconds before the bell uh he goes on to fight until the third when the referee gave his decision just a few seconds before the bell. He goes on to fight in Flint a bunch of times and in Portland a whole bunch, in Seattle. Fights Lou Scusa three times. What? Lou Scusa.

Scusa. S-C-O-Z-Z-A. You can't put those so close together. It's a Lou Scusa. It sounds like what you're calling. It's a loose casa. It sounds like what you're calling. Yeah, I get you. It's real loose.

You see what I'm saying? It's a loose scusa. You're a Regina. You must do so much, too much of fisting entertainment for you. Too much fisting entertainment. That's why. Too much of fisting entertainment for you, and you get a loose scusa in your Regina. You know what I mean? A loose scusa in your Regina you know what i mean a little scusa in your in your in your vagina pat that's how it work no see oh christ he loses two two in a row to lose scusa to a loose scusa uh charles risco he fights draw with him all 10 rounds these are all 10 round

fights by the way uh draw with pete cirkin young ferpo what fights young ferpo we'll talk about who young ferpo really is in a second here he fights him twice once at the crystal pool in seattle that's a soundcloud rapper yeah that's totally young ferpo young ferpo motherfucker all right young ferpo yeah this is from uh february 22nd 1930 from the missoula in montana this is uh young ferpo's not his real name no uh flaming youth in the person of young ferpo uh-huh flaming youth going right through gay havana like nobody's business. He's taking that steamer through gay Havana to get some fistic Regina hopping. Right? Am I wrong here?

It's Luscusa. What do you want? This is the problem. It's too Luscusa. What are you supposed to do? You got to take a fistic trip with flaming youth through gay Havana. What the fuck this is this is why stanford educated journalism fails every time because we're gonna fucking ruin it this is hilarious

because we're a land of morons as he said and that's us so yeah this is why we say listen to like the parts of it, because this is what the boxing parts are. Young, flaming youth in the person of young Ferpo, alias Guido Bardelli. That's his real name. Wow. Guido Bardelli, and they don't want to put that on a marquee, because they're like, that's a little too much, right? Can't put Guido and Deli. Guido Bardelli?

That's a little too much. They're going to think there's cheese plates for sale. They're going to fuck. In Montana, they're going to kill him. It's one thing to be Italian, but you can't be like Guido Bardelli. They're going to make him do mining work. Fucking stuff him in a mine if we put him out there. Get that filthy guinea and put him in a mine.

Force of labor. See, I just don't want to fight. What are you doing? Check his pockets. See what kind of pasta is in there. See if he's got any relatives in town. uh see i just want to fight what are you doing check his pasta see check his pocket see what kind of pasta is in there see if he's got any relatives in town stolen squirrel pelt squeeze him on down the hole i think convict him of theft alias guido bardelli won from del fontaine veteran and clever boxer now they say he's clever yeah what the i thought he's that fucking clever. Del Fontaine is not clever.

It was the first fucking line of that one guy, and this guy says he's clever. So, you know what? You guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Okay. Clever boxer at Portland the other night. Early in the bout, Fontaine connected for a knockdown and then punched Firpo while he was down.

But the Italian refused to take the fight on a foul and came back milling viciously he spilled fontaine later in the bout and took the decision handily he pissed off young ferpo and he wasn't taking that shit uh next he fights a mickey walker johnny wagner these sound like made-up right names that people would put in the script about old boxers now you're fighting johnny walker johnny wagner and then al settle and george pavlik and mickey walker and ko white that's a cool name that's a bitchin name yeah ko white uh well he beats ko in 10 rounds ko white ray tramble tramble tramble ray tramble He loses in 10 rounds. Tiger Roy Williams again. Loses that by TKO in the third. Then he runs off three in a row.

Ray Trambley he beats in a decision. He beats Charlie Arthurs in a decision. And he beats Jack Elkhart in a decision. So many rounds. How many times has he been punched in the head, do you think? You can't count those no and this is there's no way to put a tally on that it's insane what do you average what's an average you think today it's like oh christ 200 300 for him though he's dropping bombs yeah he's just

throwing punches so for him he's getting hit a lot he's leading with his head right he's the type of guy for every two he lands he's taking five right so that's just his style as a marciano and it depends too on the type of fight because yeah lightweight they're hitting more than the middle weight where they can still knock the fuck out of each other but they're also fast so that's a dangerous place to fight horrifying so all these fights were in uh one in saint paul indianapolis mil, Detroit, Davenport, Indy, Clinton, all these different U.S. Milwaukee, he fights Ray Tremblay again and loses. But in early 1931, he decides that he's had enough of the U.S. And he's going to take a cattle boat over to the U.K.

What? Taking a cattle boat to England to further his boxing career. He's hiring the Indian to ford the ocean? Pretty much. Ford the ocean in the Oregon Trail. Right. That's it there. Should I ferry it across?

No, I don't think so. Let's ford it. Let's ford it, yeah. We'll do that. Cattle boat. Uh-huh. So we don't need to hire anyone to ford. Just ford.

Is that what you just did it yourself? You could either ford the river. You hire the Indian for the ferry. Yeah, that what you just did it yourself? You could either Ford the river. You hire the Indian for the ferry. Yeah, you could either Ford the river. You could try to float the fucker across yourself or you could hire the Indian to help and they would ferry you across because they had better boats.

I did. I combined two options. You made a choice. Hiring the Indian to Ford it myself. To Ford it myself. To kill all your oxen. It never made it. There'd be wheels floating in the fucking river.

The Ford never made it. No, it never worked. It There'd be wheels floating in the fucking river. It's terrible. It never made it. No, it never worked. That's it would have to be like one foot deep or else it's not going to work. It's such a gamble. So cattle boat over to the UK here, uh, where he's going to do his thing.

He does a couple of fights in Saskatoon, one in Winnipeg first, just to get it up a little bit. He gets, uh, he beats Ted Moore and Al conquest, Al conquest. Yeah. It's a hell of a name for it. It's a, he beats Ted Moore and Al Conquest. Al Conquest? That's a hell of a name for it.

That's the first porn star. Yeah, Al Conquest. It's in a box a little. There were two. There was Dick Daniels and Al Conquest. And Al Conquest. Yeah, they got their very fistic fight. It's a very fistic affair, this one.

Fistic as shit. So then he goes over and he starts fighting in england now he's a big deal when he gets there because he's like this exciting fighter who's they've heard of and read about but he's never been over there and over back then you if you didn't they didn't come and you watched them live you didn't see them that was it so if you wanted to see someone you had to buy a ticket so uh he fights his first fight in england is in royal albert hall which is a huge deal i mean that's still a huge deal and he fights fred smith who is not a big deal not a big deal five six and one fighter and he knocks fred smith out in the third round and he he really that cements him in

england they love him over there royal albert hall is his next fight. Two weeks later, he fights again. He fights Jeff Bridle in Royal Albert Hall. Knocks him out in the first round. Wow. So they're liking him over there. Then he fights Archie Sexton on May 11, 1932 in Royal Albert Hall. Archie Sexton's record coming in, 114-18-18. So he's been through 114 wins. Oh, that's 114. 114 wins, 18 losses, 18, and 18. So he's been through 114 wins.

Oh, that's 114. 114 wins, 18 losses, 18 draws. Got it. So pretty good. Pretty good. Tough son of a bitch anyway. So that is May 11th. I have the newspaper from that. Del Fontaine loses to Britain, it says.

Del Fontaine middleweight heavyweight last night was outpointed by archie sexson uh sexton showed himself a smarter boxer is he smart or not guys which one is he clever or not he's not clever uh and much heavier hitter than the canadian fontaine fought defensively most of the way and managed to stop all the britain's efforts at a knockout although he had difficulty in keeping away from the volley of lefts and rights to his jaw which shook him up so there's that he loses over there to archie sexton this is really he picks it up here and then his career really fucking falls off for a while here we'll burn through a couple of these quick he fights he wins a shitload in a row here he beats a guy named billy bird yeah these are all in england

by the way he's just over there now knocks him out in the third round knocks out george brown in the third round knocks out alf new biggin yeah alf new biggin just like that alf new biggin okay knocks him out in the seventh round le Leo Wax, he knocks out. Seaman Albert Harvey. Oh, the poor bastard. Well, I mean, because he's probably in the Navy, but don't put Seaman in your name. Not in the first name. Not in the first.

Seaman Albert. Oh, boy. Jesus Christ. This goes all 15 rounds, and Dell wins on points. Barry Kieswetter. Okay. Seaman Albert Harvey's back again. They have no contest on this one.

We don't know what happened. There's no details. Let's see here. Billy Thomas, he beats up, knocks him out in the second. Les Ward. Harry Mason. Leo Evans. Gypsy Daniels, which I love here.

That sounds like a foreign star, too. He beats up Gypsy Daniels here. A woman. 15 to 15 rounds come here gypsy uh jack uh hyams he beats here uh loses to jack kid casey but then he comes back and beats ted mason my goodness loses a couple more fights here now by the way through all this his personal life a little bit he has a wife and three kids really in canada wow so he hasn't he's barely seen them halfway around the world at all he just moved to england yeah i mean and back then he's there for good well he's fighting this is i just did a year and a half worth of flights he's just his family lives there and they stay

there he doesn't at all they don't join him they don't you know it's just that back then dad's out making a living right dad's off to war he might be back in two years who knows and the kids were like okay i mean that was that so he left them in canada when he was traveling around the states even wow so there was he was never around uh the kids so it's weird uh it's at this point he likes to do some he likes to go out when he goes to england he likes to go out he likes to drink a lot he likes to party yeah he likes the young ladies too he likes to carouse yeah he's a famous guy go get it they know who he is he's got a little thing here he's kind of famous he's going to go around he's going to meet some ladies he meets one that he especially fancies oh yeah he meets a 21 year old 10 years younger than him here a 21 year old named hilda meeks oh hilda yeah hilda

oh hildy you know it hilda yeah hilda meeks uh who is living she's a british girl she's from bristol and she is uh she's a waitress in the on the west end there so she that's her that's her job that she does uh she wants to be a professional dancer someday right that's her goal not ballet james no no no well not stripping either that was like i think like like burlesque like show dancing okay okay like uh yeah i think more like uh like the rocks like like broadway dancing is what she was talking about like yeah i could get into it musicals shit like that so i figure that she's just got her goals set real real low one day i want to be a stripper someday i'm gonna take my clothes off while people throw a dollar at me. One day. I want that.

One day. I want a man who I would never give the time of day to tell me what my pussy's worth. One day. To him. Anyway, obviously. And then. The rest of the world has a different value on everything. He will assume what his patrons will pay based on his educated guess.

Yeah. No. So her friends all described her as very uh she liked to hang out she'd like to have fun they described her as flighty everybody called her flighty you mean uh 21 21 exactly 21 seems like one of these chicks in like one of these romantic comedy movies who's like got shit everywhere she meets like a stiff guy and she's like, loosen up, dude. And like, he's like, I don't know what it is. I just love her.

I hate everything she does. Makes me totally uncomfortable and she burned my house down, but I just like her. I don't know. I just love her. I'll follow her into hell and destroy my whole life for her. Lost half my 401k because of her, but she's amazing. Something about her. Her spirit's amazing.

She lives just for today. Yeah. No. That's not how life works. Not thinking about tomorrow. That's amazing she lives just for today yeah no that's not how life works not thinking about tomorrow that's what it's about good god don't you like to eat sir nope not at all not at all so this while while this is going on he meets her and he's hanging out with her and this becomes sort of a it's like a two-year relationship yeah after a while of basically him having an affair with some 21 year old for a couple years yeah it's it's not cool at all so he does all this he's over there his wife doesn't have any idea it's not like someone's gonna you know post it on instagram or something

they don't know unless somebody sends her a letter that has to go around the panama canal through gay havana to fucking get there right who knows you'll never hear havana not called gay again never i won't anyway yeah if i ever get a letter from there i know that it's full of glitter i know it's yeah oh don't open it's glitter it's just glitter so dell gets a little bit she likes to have fun and it's like it's exclusive this relationship but she's also 21 and likes to hang out and she's not like real committed to him but he's hiding to her yeah he really likes her and he's very much obsessed with her in terms of you know that's his girl even though he's married and has three kids. Right. So very interesting.

So while this is all going on, he continues to fight over there. He fights through 1933. Jesus, January, February, again in February. He's fighting a lot. He fights Willie Snowy Unwin. His last name is Unwin. What? You can't.

No. U-N-W-I-N? Yes. That's lose. You cannot. Your last name is Unwin. What? You can't. No. U-N-W-I-N? Yes. That's lose. You cannot. Your last name is lose. Unwin as your name, as any sporting person at all. What the fuck?

Unwin. Anybody that competes in anything. Unwin. Yeah. You better change your last name. No. That's like the old relief pitcher named David Risky. I was like, well, that's not going to work.

You don't want him coming in in eighth so unwin apparently unwin was 24 5 and 1 coming in though so he had he had unwin only five of them he had only five unwins that's not bad i'm not gonna call them losses anymore just unwins he then fight so he beats unwin in 15 rounds and then he fights unwin again a month later, less than a month later, three weeks later, and it's a draw in 12 rounds. So he fights 27 rounds in three weeks with this guy, which is fucking crazy. He fights Charlie McDonald, knocks him out. George Brown, he fights twice and draws both times.

27 rounds of draws in three weeks. Ouch. Nothing accomplished. Nothing. 27 rounds in three weeks ouch uh nothing accomplished nothing 27 rounds in three weeks and not a fucking thing accomplished no one cares uh fights ted mason here who seems like a good fighter 53 and 23 tko's him uh jack hymas he loses by disqualification in the 13th round jesus good lord christ just fight the rest of the way. Alf Luxton. Alf is a popular name back then. I don't know why Alf is. Who the fuck would name their kid

Alf? People named him Alfred. Lots of people. Well, there's worse names coming up as we'll talk about here. Jack Marshall he fights and wins in a TKO. He fights Seaman Harry Rolls, another Seaman. Fights him, knocks him out. Fights Laurie Seaman Harry Rolls, another seaman, fights him, knocks him out, fights Laurie Rytary.

So he's beating up Laurie. He's beating up poor Renee. And he's beating up poor little Jackie got it earlier. Now Laurie. They were very progressive back then when it came to boxing. I would say. And Laurie, I give her credit. She did make it into the second round.

Yeah. So Laurie lasted a whole round of this flurry here. Not too shabby. Knocks out poor Laurie. Fights Bob Carville here. Wins there in 15 rounds. All these are 15 rounds after this. Loses to Eddie Pierce.

Loses to Eddie McGuire. 15 rounds. 15 rounds. Loses to Al Bork. That's a 13-round TKO. Beats Ernie Red Pullen.and okay and 12 rounds though uh then he fights adolf witt it's probably vitt i'm sure uh fits in fights him in germany adolf vitt uh wow 34 too this is to go to germany in 34 things were starting to get weird not even starting to get weird they had been weird for a while but they were noticeably weird man probably like oh this is really getting weird

fighting a man named adolf yeah that's what i mean adolf vitt uh this he loses to adolf on points in 10 rounds uh fights eddie mcguire ernie simmons jose martinez de alfara oh boy i assume he's from spain over probably. All of these are 15 round fights. We're going to go through a little thing here. Adolph Witt loses. Well, he lost three in a row, then won one, then loses to Witt, then loses again in 15 rounds

to Eddie McGuire, has a draw in 12 rounds, loses a 10 round fight, loses another 12 round fight, then he gets he fights Manuel Kid A kid abreu gets knocked out then he gets knocked out again by jack strongbow seaman joe wakeling yeah everyone's just seaman uh loses uh in 12 rounds to him i mean that's that's a fact you it's true we're all just seaman we're all semen let me count this up jimmy one two three four five six seven eight nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 20 out of 22 fights his last 22 fights he won three of them ouch and drew twice whoa and uh 17 losses and most of them

went the distance yeah and these last ones too everybody said he did not seem like himself himself no in the ring he was slower yeah and he was just getting pummeled basically he's dying he was getting paid to go in the ring with as his name he has name value of he's an exciting fighter but he wasn't anymore he was trying to survive to get his pay. He has name value of he's an exciting fighter, but he wasn't anymore. He was trying to survive to get his payday, basically. He's Muhammad Ali at the end. He's getting pummeled. Absolutely. Finally, he fights Tommy

Farr as his last fight here. Tommy Farr, who's a 48, 23, and 17 fighter and loses on points to him. His career record is 54, 39, and and 9 his official career record but then there's other ones where there's more fights so i could never really tell how many fights this guy had back that's enough that's enough it's over a hundred so he is fucked here

he's got his girlfriend that he's hanging out with but he is uh everybody says he's punch drunk that's the you know the phrase of the day he's got cte like a motherfucker he's hanging out with but he is uh everybody says he's punch drunk that's the you know the phrase of the day he's got cte like a motherfucker he's not doing well in the head uh he's wandering around wondering what the fuck he's gonna do with his life at this point what do you do uh um he doesn't know what to do no so he's just wandering around um he's going through one neighborhood one day and a limo pulls up next to him and he's like what the fuck is this is a back then you didn't see a lot of limousines like al capone had a limousine and like that was it so limo pulls up next to him and he's very surprised a man jumps out dell jumps

back like he's gonna get punched in the face but he's not gonna get punched in the face because it's vince mcmahon, chairman and CEO of the WWE. And he says, how is it? You've come to arrive here. You beautiful son of a bitch. Look at you. I've been looking at how I've been following you.

Don't worry. Oh yeah. I followed you all the way through gay Havana. You know I did. You know what? Dexter, don't say a fucking word. Dexter, get back in the car. He would be so young.

I'll tell you what. Oh, no. I saw you. I saw the vascularity as you went through gay Havana, right up your vagina. Yeah. I saw it all. It was too loose. I need a f fistic young man that's what i need i need a young man who's fistic vascular and fistic that's what i'm looking for get that shirt off

ah that's what i'm talking about there we go let me ask you a question i know you're from the middle of nowhere do you have any aversion to overalls by any chance no oh this is gonna work out beautifully come on in my limo young man and then poof and a poof of 1099s and brain damage unbelievable he's gone and uh dell's in the limo with him go and have a nice life together and uh get more brain disgusting that man is. Look at you. So July 11th, 1935 comes along. His last fight was less than a year ago. He's still seeing Hilda.

Still seeing her, unbeknownst to his wife. But his wife's going to find out here because one night he is over her house. Now she lives with her mom and dad. He's at Hilda's house. He's at Hilda's Now, she lives with her mom and dad. He's at Hilda's house. He's at Hilda's house.

She lives with her mom and dad. She's young, and he goes over there all the time. They know him very well. One night, they're over there, and he overheard her on the telephone in another room making a date with another man. Oh. So, yeah, he was upset about that, obviously. Right. And he ends up pulling out a gun and shooting her.

What? He shoots Hilda. Uh-huh. He shoots her as she runs out into the street away from him. He follows her out and shoots her more. Oh, my God. Guns are down in the street. Hilda falls dead in the street. Okay. At her parents' house. At her parents' house. Yeah. And her parents, outside her more. Oh, my God. Guns are down in the street. Hilda falls dead in the street.

Okay. At her parents' house. At her parents' house. Yeah. And her parents, outside her parents' front yard. Speaking of her parents, her mom is home. Her mom hears this commotion and comes out to see what's going on. Holding her gun.

Comes into the living room. No, just to go, what's going on? And Del starts firing at her as well. Oh, my God. And shoots Hilda's mom as well. She falls down he assumes she's dead too right uh so he's standing there doesn't know what to do uh he eventually goes out in the street and picks hilda up and starts carrying her back in the house just in

time for dad to come home oh boy and see this scene right uh unfold before him um yeah uh he came home and he's carrying the daughter in the house and he said you know what the fuck's going on in the most polite and english way possible i'm sure she is dell told him quote i've done for her and i've done for the old woman he said ah my wife killed them both yeah my your wife the old the old woman who's probably 43 right this girl's 21 years old she's your age now yeah she's barely older than you she was a senior when you were a freshman it's really not a big deal the old woman so uh he thought he killed both the women and the father said can i have can you give me the gun because i'm sure i don't shoot me or yourself or

any hurt anybody else so he asked for the gun and dell'm sure don't shoot me or yourself or hurt anybody else so he asks for the gun and Del says sure and he goes to give it to him and then he stops and he says no I'll give it to the officers when they get here

I'll hold it and give it to them they'll want it more than you so I'll just wait for them you're going to have to give it to them so why have a middle man I'll just give it to them you don't want your fingerprints on this

Jesus Christ you know what's been done with this thing efficiency yeah you don't want your fingerprints efficiency Jesus what are you fistic or something so uh down at the police station they they come and they come and get dell and dell waits for the police

uh he goes what a bizarre afternoon for that dad he goes without a fight or without a yell he says oh i did this and i you know take me to jail. That's it. I mean, he's just waiting there. Okay. Goes in calmly and whatever. He says that Del said, once he gets to the police station, quote, I shot the girl I really cared for. She has broken my heart and ruined my life.

I don't care if I die. Don't think I'm crazy, boys, because I'm not. That's what he tells the cops. Then he says she was supposed to be mine. You know what? Let's do an in their own words about Del. God damn it. We're going to do.

Let's get Del into this. Let's let him have his say. In their own words, quote, she was supposed to be mine, but I heard her on the telephone making an appointment for 10 o'clock after I would be out. She's ruined my life, home, and children. She had her fortune told by a gypsy who said she would be murdered in three years. I said, by God, no, and I did not think I would be the one to do it. So the gypsy was right.

You don't have to be. Lesson here, listen to gypsies. They can see the future, I guess. That's a pretty good call, though. A young girl would be murdered. I didn't know it would be me. I mean, that's what exactly he said. I did not think I would be the one to do it.

Well, clearly not. That's a good in their own words, a gypsy. Then he says, quote, I heard her name, the appointment, and I shouted in the telephone, she's not going to meet you anywhere, is what he said. He shouted at the guy. And Hilda shouted, yes, I will. I told her she was going to stay with me. Then her mother came into the room.

I said to Hilda, I'll shoot you before I let you go out with anyone else. And Hilda replied, you wouldn't do that. And that was the last thing. A gypsy said I would would between his brain damage and this gypsy we should really take all threats seriously at this point i feel like right yeah i mean if if for nothing else listen to the gypsy so july 20th 1935 is when his trial starts and it's in england and this is a big thing i mean he's like a famous guy kind he's a fighter and it's it's also a big deal

because they're everywhere's calling him punch drunk and he's punch drunk and he's punch drunk and he is the guy's a fucking his brain is mush clearly you heard the amount of fighting he did back then james he believed a gypsy able she was right so uh it's been foretold it's been foretold now we find a little bit more out in this trial from this. We find a little bit more about the crime from the trial. The prosecution introduces a letter in the trial that Dell had written here. And it was a letter he wrote to her. And this is a great, by the way, quote from the paper.

A tale of jealousy and reproach was told by counsel for the prosecution as Del Fontaine, Winnipeg boxer, appeared for his preliminary hearing for the police court charged today charged with the murder of Hilda Meeks and the attempted murder of Mrs. Alex Alice Meeks, the girl's mother. She didn't die. She didn't die. She ended up living. The mother. She ended up living. ended up living the mother uh she ended up living uh now the prosecution introduced a letter found on fontaine that was addressed addressed to hilda here uh when he was arrested now uh let's see here

the the oh boy uh she's mad at uh is she he's mad at her tells her that she he she turned him against the most wonderful woman in the world meaning his wife uh ruined his life ruined his future in the ring uh saying he was no longer a popular boxer and uh we'll get the whole thing here extracts from the letter quote you've wrecked my life and turned me against everybody you've turned me against the most wonderful woman in the world that's my wife you've ruined my life and my fortune in the ring i cannot fight anymore you are not going to break any more hearts you'll die with me wow that's what he said you'll die with me so um it seems like he um you know maybe thought planned this out uh also sounds like he he thought that he was going to kill himself

he then says you said you wanted to die with you said you wanted me to die with you but you are going to die with me for a change is what he says that's the last line of it um so yeah that sounds that sounds uh not great the man in the on the phone testified that dell shouted into the telephone she is not going to meet you anywhere. And the girl herself shouted, I shall, before it hung up. So that's how that happened. Wow. He then, we quoted, he said, quote, I shot the girl.

I really cared for her, but she has broken my heart and ruined my life. I don't care if I die. Don't think me crazy. That's what he said about the whole thing. So he's clearly fucking out of it. mean clearly he's got problems oh he shouldn't have shot anybody but i don't think he knows where the fuck he is half the time this guy it's a mess i think he's a goddamn mess probably um so another a man testifies and a boxer retired boxer testifies ted lewis he testifies in his behalf on dell's behalf because the only thing Dell has is insanity.

It's the only thing he can plead because he's obviously admitted to what he did. This man says, Dell shouldn't have been in the ring at all for his last fight. He wasn't in a fit state. As a boxer, he's received more punishment

than anyone I have ever seen. Also, the house doctor at the venue said that in 1935 the the fighter complained of double vision sleepiness and not being able to walk straight while he was still fighting oh my god that's like in between fights he feels like that he's got hardcore brain damage oh boy and uh yeah no i don't know how this hilda woman didn't see it i feel bad for her because she was just trying to have fun in this you know And this is an exciting guy. You know, young girl.

Who knows here? So her father also testified. Sam Meek here. They questioned him about what he thought about Dell's mental health. And they said, quote, Do you realize that he was knocked out seven times recently? That's a lot. And the father said quote i don't know about knock knockouts the last one seemed to be seemed to me more like a lie down

so he said i don't know about getting knocked out but he throws his fights or he gives up or whatever uh so just to kind of put him in a little more shade here and now uh so the verdict they find him guilty yeah he's guilty of murder. We'll get to the sentencing in a moment here. He's guilty of murder. This is bad for everybody. First of all, I feel terrible for his wife and kids. Of course.

Imagine, A, you're over there in Winnipeg. He's trying to make a living for you to send money back and stuff. You're hoping he's doing well. You not only find out he's in jail for murder, but he's been having an affair with some young girl that you don't fucking know about and he doesn't matter anyway because now she's dead now she's dead and he's got brain damage and uh the whole thing's a fucking disaster so they're they're terrible this poor hilda girl was just a 21 year old girl trying to have some fun and meet meet some people i feel bad for poor sam he's had his daughter killed and his wife shot. This is all bad shit. I mean, I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Raymond Busquette, vice president at Merrill in greater Boston. He went to Boston University.

Raymond Busquette, CM at Bond Clinic, Pennsylvania, or PA. I don't know what that is. CM? I don't know what that is. Oh, certified medical assistant. Oh, look at him in the Atlanta metro area. He says he's looking for an entry level position. Someone hire old Raymond.

Don't let his name. Don't get in there yet. Raymond, wait for this virus to burn. Shit. Raymond Biscuit, national sales manager at Pella Corporation in Iowa. Raymond Biscuit, partner at Metro Crime Prevention in Shrewsbury, Mass. Well, he's probably not a murderer. Probably not.

And Del Fontaine, operations manager up in Red Deer County in Alberta, Canada. And boy, can he sing. And also, if you look this up, you get a lot of the De La Fontaine Company. What? It's D-E space L-A

Fontaine Company. Is it Del fontaine with an a in there no they actually make uh design and manufacturing of steel doors and frames really they say quality products reliable service and two-week delivery this combination it's this combination that makes us a true partner yeah but are they like the brothers from Money Pit? Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. Everything's two weeks. She's a good-looking wolf. Honey, you just said you were a good-looking wolf. I just said you were a good-looking wolf.

I don't know. I don't know why you're so upset. Why are you so upset? You guys said you were a good-looking wolf. I mean, I love that fucking movie so much. It's really, really good. Oh, it's underrated. Tom Hanks is just wonderful in comedy you know the only thing i never mind it's so fucking horrible to say but i just i the 80s uh a time that they tried to force uh

shelly long and her lack of sex appeal down our throat yeah yeah they did but they yeah yeah the best movie she was in was that goddamn uh beverly hills because then it was like you're not you see her as a mom and like clearly out of her sexual prime and it's fine well she was popular on cheers where she wasn't supposed to be like a sex symbol she was like the opposite of that that sam was like so that made sense and they put her in movies but then they put him and put her in money pit where she's like supposed to be sought after and it's like at least well it's only sought after by her ex-husband and tom hanks but then she is super pretentious in the movie too she's supposed to be i get what you're saying over her has never happened no other than sam malone and frazier crane no that's never

happened danny there's jelly long ever two people never fought over her in her life absolutely not if i came to you i was like this is my girlfriend shelly and you're like oh i had her number i was kind of go ahead yeah no you're all right you're good you know what that's all you give it a run bud that's you chief you give it a whirl that's how shelly's life for better her whole life i guarantee it so all of these poor people obviously and uh dell needs to be sentenced now okay and there's several sentences that he could he could get here and the judge i wish i had what the judge says but i couldn't find it anywhere uh but the judge definitely at some point says you sir may fuck off yeah death by hanging get out of here you're gonna hang to hang Del for this shit.

Holy shit. Now, they tried. You gun a young girl down in the street and you get hanged. And her mom, you're getting hanged. Now, they tried to, like I said, everyone in the boxing industry and all these people, doctors tried to get them to not hang him based on the fact that he's a fucking, his brain is pudding. Obviously.

He has tapioca in his head. They've never heard of CTE, though. No, no, that's as well, but they knew punch drunk, but they were like, oh, so what? Punch drunk. They didn't realize that that meant his brain. Not that it matters anyway. He fucking killed a person, so who cares? Tell me what the E is of CTE.

Yeah. Go ahead and try to pronounce that shit. Doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. There you go. So that's October 15th, 1935. He has an appeal. It's an appeal.

It's from it's a lot of people appealing. He has like his own people on his behalf appealing for him based on his mental state. There's people that are anti capital punishment people from back then that are appealing hard on his behalf. It's a lot here uh it goes all the way to home secretary sir john simon gets to make the decision here uh and he rejects an appeal for reprieve uh this is from the national union of boxers um the members of the union asserted that they knew before bosquet before dell killed hilda that he had behaved abnormally owing to a condition of punch drunkenness.

They said, look, the last few fights, we didn't even know who he was. He was a completely different person. So he's going to hang, which, I mean, honestly, fuck, man. He's going to hang in England. That's some old-timey shit. That's pretty crazy. That's wild. But not nearly as crazy, Jimmy, as the sales.

It's 1935. not nearly as crazy, Jimmy, as the sales. It's 1935. We need more sales. If you happen to be in Minneapolis, Minnesota in 1935. Is that where they're going to hang him? No, no, no. That's where we're going to look at sales. That's why I was reading this in the paper. I want England to hang people in Minnesota.

They're going to hang them over there. Yeah, I know. We're sending them over to St. Cloud. We're sending them over to St. Cloud. If you happen to be there, for $4.85 down, you can get a new lattice-backed super value suit. Lattice-backed. What does that mean? Fucking beats. This is the picture of it.

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the fuck is this world something oh in the i don't know what the fuck this even says you can get tums yeah there's a tums antacid this week your druggists what the fuck does this say with the purchase of a 10 cent roll you get it you get stuff oh you get a you get a five five color 1935 1936 calendar thermometer with the purchase of a 10 cent roll of tums a calendar thermometer i don't know how that works i don't know take your calendars i got a thermometer built into it also here's one it says modern women oh so it's for you ladies this is for is for Chichester's Pills, the diamond brand. Modern women need not suffer monthly pain and delay due to colds, nervous strain, exposure, or similar causes. Diamond brand pills are effective and reliable and give quick relief.

I think it's period stuff, but they couldn't say it back then. They say the once a month part. You know what we mean. Yeah. You could go see Spitfire with Katharine Hepburn. It's playing for 10 cents down at the theater. You can go see The Thin Man, which is a very famous piece of cinema there with William Powell. You can go see Hell's Harbor with Loopy Velez.

You know who Loopy Velez is? Never heard that? She killed herself. Really? Yeah, she killed herself with Loopy Velez. You know who Loopy Velez is? Never heard that? She killed herself. Really? Yeah, she killed herself tried to be remembered. Oh my god and I don't know who she is. Sorry Loopy. They tell the story actually on Frasier one time on the show Frasier she wanted to be remembered so she

wanted to kill herself. She did her makeup and her dress to like and then took a shit load of pills to look perfect on her bed placed herself all on her bed but before she died she got real sick and went and threw up and they found her with her head in the toilet so memorable yes but not exactly what she was going for sorry loopy sorry loopy also go see shirley temple and curly top well there we go. William P. Boyd and Hop Along Cassidy. Holy hell there.

Look at this. More Shirley Temple movies here. Jesus. Holy fuck. Case Francis and Stranded. And finally, this is a big one. AIDS when you need it. Does it not say that?

It sure does. AIDS when you need it. Yeah. Use Capillaris X for boils, eema rash pimples itch and other skin and scalp disorders and the many open wounds received in the course of the day's work work yeah how many open wounds are you receiving i don't know but that's how you get it aids and you gotta take that shit jesus christ so they're giving you like different types of aids for all kinds of different all

sorts of different problems they'll give you aids as different aids for different things here and then i'll go down to the hope the curtis hotel in minneapolis uh for the donaldson style review in the new white room uh stunning models delicious dinner dancing to Dick Long's music. Oh, I bet you are. Dick Long. That's another form. Come on, man. Come on. I know it's the 30s, but he knew what he was fucking doing.

He sure did. All this for $1. That's a deal. Dinner and everything else. And also, you want to fly? Flying. Air travel has come into play. Northwest Airlines.

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out there how's your coal pile everybody good or bad you know i don't i'll have to look i have to check my coal pile i'm a little worried about it i will have to call my maritime negro and have him check have him check on your on your coal pile see if there's any anything fistic he can do about it uh it's okay yeah so uh holy shit yeah, I saw this sitting over there. I'm like, how's your coal pile? That's a headline. That's a headline. How's your coal pile?

Also, they have dry wood and coal delivered when and where you want it. Courteous service at Missoula Coal and Transfer Company in Missoula, Montana there. So October 29th, 1935. Oh boy. Two weeks after the appeal is the day of his hanging. Two weeks. Two weeks after the appeal is the day of his hanging. Two weeks? Two weeks. Jesus Christ.

The trial was, what, four months ago? It's like four months later you're hanging. Four months and two weeks. Two weeks, done. So, yeah, there was all sorts of protesters there. There was a woman named Mrs. J. Vander Est back then who used to she was like this older very old lady look 100 I don't know

she's probably 45 back then but she looked 100 and she's she's held his little sister she looked 100 but and she organized all these anti-capital punishment protests back then and they'd sing like religious hymns and they were she played it real like the the christians played protesting the vietnam war like real peace and uh and religious

hymns and jesus wouldn't like this and all that kind of shit so that's the type of shit she's playing today she'd be sending us petitions today she would send us a petition saying that how bad we are we love when we get those. So she had followers there. They had people with signs denouncing the death. Like a protest, like we have now here. But this was a big deal

because this was like an old lady and these weren't like, these were like prominent people in the community that were doing this. So it was considered like we should listen to them. Now, Del Fontaine left a note behind uh it's his last words and that

is hilda meek broke my heart i spent my last cent on her she turned me against my own wife that's his last words still mad at her yeah still mad well it's only been a few months i can't believe you're gonna hang me for what this bitch did right he didn't even have fucking time to like to get to like understand it and then feel empathy and have remorse he didn't even get to get to that yet you murdered a woman we have to hang you no you don't understand i murdered her because she ruined my life did i not tell you i spent my last cent on her the fuck do you want from me she turned me against the woman i love when i had no more money we get it we're gonna hang you for it yeah well they take him to the gallows and uh against

the shouts and i mean the protests got loud it got to be pretty contentious this whole thing but they end up uh he is hanged on october 29th 19. The warden of the prison afterwards was quoted to a newspaper saying, quote, he was the bravest fellow we ever saw go to the scaffold. Yeah. Because he probably didn't know

what he was doing. Right. He was probably like, oh, that's all right. I'll get him next round. What's that? Now, if the... They're putting the noose

around his neck. He said, no, no, Vaseline on the cheeks. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. Now... He's got cranium tapioca. It's a mess.

Yeah, he does. It's not good. Why does he have pudding coming out of his ears? Oh, that's his brain. Now, the warden, obviously, he's kind of depressed about that. He sounded sad about it. He's a brave bloke to send to the whatever. But if he is sad, right around there in that newspaper locally i did

find you can get a quart of mayflower straight rye whiskey for only a dollar 75 a quart 90 cents a pint a quart a court good lord so you could do that and feel better about yourself and uh that's del fontaine he is buried over in like the prison cemetery in England. Yeah, they didn't send him back here or anything. They were going to pay for that. Ship his ass back to fucking Manitoba. No. What, on Northwest? No, he could have done it on Northwest. But they would have had to ferry him across

the, uh, they'd have to ford the Atlantic Ocean again with a corpse in tow. Not great. So, uh, yeah, that's Del. He's dead. Hilda's dead. Poor her dad went on, and mom had to recover. With 1930s healthcare after being shot. After being shot.

Fuck, she was a mess forever. Probably a mess. She probably shit into a bag forever, and that was that. Can't get enough of Del? Well, I hope you can, because there's no memorabilia of him, because he's a boxer from the 30s. So, there is nothing. If you want to feel feel like dell go bash your head against the wall about 600 times and then you'll feel just like him and then that's what you'll know but that is dell fontaine unbelievable what a story there's a weird little story from back in the day yeah and see these are

fun and i figured too let's have fun with it because i know on this episode since no one's ever heard of him no one will listen anyway so this is for us we get to have fun you know they make movies like the hurricane and and the movie uh the uh the fighter is that what it's called uh mickey roark yes yes yeah and gladiator all these movies about like like ideas of what things are and then a rough idea about somebody that was in that yeah Fucking make this. This is riveting. I don't know how this is not a movie. Riveting. It's insane that this isn't a movie.

Unbelievable. Especially the time, too. It's a cool time. The ending could be dope. Plus, roaring 20s. Then the Depression hits. We didn't talk about that, but the Depression hits in 29. Some of those newspaper headlines were crazy.

Oh, sure. So, I mean, this is a crazy time. You could have a lot going on in the background. Mix it up with Hepburn and Hughes getting together. And really just all the romance that was Hollywood in that time was its story. And Bruce Campbell. Bruce Campbell. Bruce Kimball both need to be movies.

It's interesting. And last week's Small Town Murder absolutely needs to be a movie because I've never heard of a stupider story than that or a crazier one. Hollywood running all these original scripts that are bullshit and stupid and not sequels for the most part anyway yeah make an original story avengers yeah make this this is interesting but who knows either way if you like that story let us know about it get on apple podcast that purple icon give us five stars just say something it doesn't matter what you say i had to dig through newspaper archives from the fucking 20s.

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New stuff up all the time. There's masks up right now. All that money goes to charity the mask money we don't we don't touch any of that so get all of that get your merchandise get your tickets to upcoming live shows hopefully yeah it's looking like we're going to try to get these in in the summer on we have uh you know august they're coming up and uh hopefully if everybody fucking gets their heads out of their asses, we can have normal shit by then. That'd be nice.

And we'll all be able to gather in a fucking room. Don't be an asshole now. If you're an asshole now, then we won't have shows then. Right. That's how this works. It's today that matters. Yeah. You guys can watch all the news and politics and shit you want.

From a business standpoint, we're being told what actually happens from a math standpoint. Not of, oh, I like this and I like this and he said this and that's a hoax and this is that none of that shit i don't care what side you're fucking on in that today matters and then we'll worry about tomorrow in reality they will not hold these fucking shows if there's spikes in this shit that's the fact you guys can ignore that it's going on then or you can ignore it now or you can not ignore it you do whatever you want it's your fucking life but what we're saying is shit like this is affected by that so think about that for a while because we'd like we'd like to make a dime this year selfishly i want to go do shows i want james to be able to go do shows i want to go

do shows i want to see you guys collectively i'd like to see live entertainment fucking thrive. Yes. And for that to happen on any scale, whether it be 250 seats or 1,000 or fucking Rolling Stones shows. Who knows? It's not going to happen if you fuckers keep leaving your house. And then that's the other thing, too, is we're going to have to worry about is we're going to get to a point in the fall and in the winter where we're going to have shit going on.

We're going to have some states that'll pay attention and some states that'll just say fuck it do whatever you want and then we're going to have to make the decision of whether we're going to put all of our people in a fucking room together at their own risk or whatever take a chance then we have to decide that eventually we don't want to do that we're comedians these are not epidemiology is not what the fuck we do at all so we're not claiming to be geniuses about this we just want to have fucking live shows neither are promoters and they take a giant risk with this too so who knows we have to go whether hopefully get your tickets anyway gambles god damn it do it come out there and see us and hang out and uh buy tickets to that if you want to be a hero of ours

damn it uh pay a producer you can do do that very, very easily, everybody. And you can get access to tons of our bonus stuff. All sorts. Last week it was War Machine's prison blog. We had a crazy Ken Patera story before that. We have small-town murder tons of stories. Especially, you guys are really going to want to hear the all-violent felon dating game. Prisoner dating game that we did.

Because that was a trip, it's so ridiculous so we might do one of those and just release it as a bonus episode for everybody or something like that because that's as well it's so fun and we want everyone to know how fun patreon is so uh yeah that's five dollars and above patreon.com slash crime and sports or you can do uh paypal you just want to throw us a couple bucks because you're a nice person. You can do that also, PayPal, and use our email address, crimeandsports at gmail.com. You want to follow us on social media, see when shows are rescheduled for,

because we're still getting questions about, is this show going on May 8th? No, it's not. It's rescheduled for December. Are you out of your fucking mind? That's the answer. Do you think there's going to be 600 people crammed into a fucking room in three days yeah this weekend probably not so

that'll be later so look those up check out our site all the correct dates are on there and everything like that but i can't have it anymore jimmy i my brain is feeling a little fistic and i feel like the only thing that will possibly help it is the list of the producers of my favorite goddamn people jimmy pummel me with them until i don't remember my name this week's executive producers are uh donna lindakey i think i believe so sure uh james bray heather allen asha gilmore uh pro what is this pro scion and uh murkova i think yeah whitney gregory uh brad uh yeah brad dunifin brandy uh amanda yeah no brandy it's just brandy hey amanda russell uh lisa martin ulysses urina uh said happy birthday to his wife and uh didn't say her name well happy

birthday ulysses wife happy anniversary or anniversary happy birthday to his wife and didn't say her name. Well, happy birthday, Ulysses' wife. Happy anniversary. Her anniversary. Happy birthiversary. Congratulations on being married to somebody for an entire year and forgetting who they are. Good job. Christina Lehman. Also, Jessica Barfield.

Erin Riley, I believe. Yeah. Oh, boy. I don't know. Megan Pavey. Filthy Dick, which I believe was supposed to be Filthy Dick, right? Yeah, I believe so. I caught you, Phil.

It's not your name. Brazelton Neuring. Caroline Stevens. Michael Humeki. Joyce Rudzik. Megan with no last name. Jessica Matthews. Brandon Wolfe.

Okay. Tanya Volanek. John Sardo. Louis Tidrick. Tidrick. What did I do? I think it's Tiedrich. He donated both ways.

Well, thank you. Yeah, he got us both ways. Fistic is shit. Jordan Bennett, Justin Haynes, Jessica Christensen, Ara Abrahamian, G.S. Thomas, Julie Kinsey. Hang in there, Julie. Fuck, it's tough stuff. I know it.

No, what is this? Rachel Autry Hunter? No, probably not. Jax J. Will and Nicole Feliciano. That's the Italian fellatio. That's what that is. Perfect.

I think that's what that is. Yeah, that is right. Kenny Chris Earnshaw. Brad Applegate. JL Russell. Ashlyn Lee. Trey Staylit. He does. I know that. Good. Ashlyn Lee, Trey Staylit. He does.

I know that for a fact. Good for you, Trey. Me too, Chief. Douglas Collins, Jason Orzakowski, David and Marianne in San Diego, Brenton Meade, Kevin Spilker, Tracy Reed, Amy Ellis, Morgan Morrow, Blue Kieran, McF—what is that? McF—what did I do? McF—Me Fail Presidential, The Unpossible. I don't know what that? What did I do? Me fail presidential, the impossible. I don't know what that means, but I dig it.

Alexandra in fucking Canada wrote us a nice letter. She is blind, and she approved of our blind jokes. Sweet. Thank you. That's nice. That's awesome. Because there's nothing worse than a blind person hating you. Blind people have great senses of humor, by the way.

They usually do. I've met a few that always have a good sense of humor. Well, Alexandra certainly does. The other producers this week are Anthony Peregrine. He donated both ways. Kurt Lawson, Rick Walls, Maria Soblikowski, Robert Zunikoff, Jennifer B belsan david bouchier hayes jared brown town what is this thomas smith uh jackie sukup ryan uh sukup uh ryan sergeant jody fisher nathan adam brown mia constraca fuck what is that constranich nope constran stitch uh ashley vo k Kristen Carlson. No, that's Preston. Sorry. Oh, boy.

Alex Casali, Melody Agafo-Teo, Mackenzie Miller, Trey Valkenar, Carl Kirshner, Christy Hansen, Janice Hill, Elliot Gibbons. What is this? Katrina Matijik. One of those has to be close to wrong. Leah leah gavin what is this leah gavin hang in there girl that's what it was uh reagan no yeah reagan shalkley peyton meadows rebecca warring peter ahern uh james martyr hannah callelli stephanie uh no yeah stephanie hawk aiden frith robin anderson neil james Jones. He donated both ways. Thanks, Neil. Thank you.

Brooke Kale, Craig Ventura, Robin Anderson, Howard Flowers, Amanda Justice, Deborah. Nope. What is that? Oh, Gary Howard. His wife's. Oh, okay. Deja's birthday was just a couple weeks ago. And he fucking messaged me and I missed it.

Sorry, man. You dipshit. W. Witt or White or Witty. One of those. Amanda Justice? Chad Laverary? No. Laverie? Laverie.

Tony Santos? Mitchell Murray? Maybe. Maybe. Nate Sage? Crystal Walker? Claudiel? What is this?

Claudelize? Claudelize? No. Claudeliz? Alvarez? Tom? Tamsin? Tamsin Harkery caleb ward southern dirty mama no

party mama hey there we go whatever she's a nurse and she's doing fantastic work thank you very much thank you amanda knight tyler gwil abby with no last name jamie maddox uh morgan walker uh sarah kalen jennifer prater nicholas blinzie blinzie, Shauna Hollingsworth, Linda Baird, Jenny Shores, Nathan Little, Amateur Road USA, Decal Wolf. They make stickers and they want to holler at us. Elizabeth Leatherland. Jesus. Paul Burns. Yvonne Lorenzo.

Diane. No, that's Dion. Dion Horn. Let's see here. Where didzo. Diane. No, that's Dion. Dion Horn. Let's see here. Where did I go? Yeah. Jamie Maddox. By the way, a Maddox was in the show last week.

Yeah. That is a fucking hatchet. A terrifying hatchet. Not a knife. No. It's fucking horrifying. It's a hunting hatchet. So he went from a, yeah, he went from a Bowie knife to a hatchet to a gun.

Right. He was escalating. Pretty good. Pretty good way to escalate. Delfina Homan. Francisco Medrano, Dave Brown. I think that's Dave. If it's Dale, I apologize.

Golden Wars 65. That's the equivalent of a pissing match, I think. Sayaka Matusiewicz. No. Matt Sukawa. Close. Not even close. Kaitlyn Kukuli.

Neff Maxwell Kavanaugh. Kelsey Robsey robbins ashley no it's not it's ally no it's not what is that i think it's ally quay yep uh fish gerald uh juliet hughes neff with no last name finn webster angela ford sigum leah kelly cynthia cooper debbie no yeah debbie decote lindsey dykes shit as a as a matha no as a modest duckshaw buck shank jerry hutton madison with no last name jacob goal cole uh michael gruner elizabeth compton jessica shackleford shackleford shackleford why is that so hard for me i don't know andrew tracy candace canady is back thank you candace uh thad dodds aaron gomez jamie infantes ward john buford luke casey elizabeth manriquez james hansen bobby evans luke casey i said that joseph edgington eddington

katherine hennessey whitney edwards sarah gallant uh caitlin picard emily williams steven no sean Catherine Hennessy, Whitney Edwards, Sarah Gallant, Caitlin Picard, Emily Williams, Sean P. Kincaid, Kelly Strayed, Olympia Buckingham, Tracy Dana, Steve Kowalczyk, Cody Plattner, Phil Cantwell, Kyler Stotman, Jess Driver, no, yeah, Scott Hollingsworth, Nolan Reganweather, Lisa Sutak, with a question mark, Karen Chalene, Desiree Smith, Blanca Singh, Carrie with no last name, Jason Cherry, Emma Mitchell, Denise Rise, Suwook Wang, Amanda Berrigan, Tracy Thomas, Jace Gonzalez, Jake Gonzalez, Rory White, Cindy Du, Beth Sutherland, Lisa Womack, Johnny Griff, Griff D, Orif. Jenny. Jennifer. Jeffrey. Jeffrey Swank. Carmen Peltier. Dee Taylor. John Rogers. Javon Betts-Beisner. Tiffany Defabritus. Defabritus. That sounds terrible.

That sounds like a disease. Sounds like your bones are falling apart. I'm sorry you have that. Debbie Laura and E.J. William Peterson. Brandy Fort. Tort. I'm sorry you have that. Debbie, Laura, and E.J. Housler. William Peterson, Brandy Fort, Tort. I don't know what I wrote. John Eggsoner, Engsiner, and Gesser.

Yes. Julian Webster, Mallory Udy. Amelia with no last name. Heather Melling. Lindsay Cooper. Shauna Nicole Raines. Alex Warner. Taylor with no last name.

Edward Brock. La Babe. Carrie Brazil. Brazel. cooper shauna nicole rains alex warner taylor with no last name uh edward brock law babe uh carrie brazil brazel uh sarah normal activity jessica landry nicole with no last name stanford hedger hedgert uh wendy miller stan favorites oh that's what it is sir uh lucy stack stack stick yara st statura okay listen it's her birthday i don't know happy birthday and her son her favorite son stan said happy birthday happy birthday katherine haynes stephen bailey sunny thomas giovanni gibelino no i didn't that was close but i did a nice job megan faucet uh jeff lewis Nice job. Megan Fawcett. Jeff Lewis. Luke Patrick. Holly Barthlow.

Jay with no last name. Shane Bartlett. Brett. No. Brett Yost. Jeff Rash. Dooley. Dulcy.

Dulcy Hall. Collette Marsh. Caleb Duncan. Jack Townsend. Jeremy Jenmags. No. Jenmings. Jennings.

Yeah, that's way easier. Drew Vaughn. Mysterio Wolf, I think. Josh Bruzan. T.G. Dalton. jennings yeah that's way easier drew vaughn uh mysterious wolf i think josh bruzan tg dalton matt morrison blake farnsworth lisa lisa de laughter jessica dowd stupid asshole there you happy it's not they tried so much they really want to they tried really hard and i had to actually spell it out so that I would pronounce it right. Just for them. Megan Kiley, or Killy.

Rachel would know the last name. Laura Sainer. Jane Peterson. Emily Perdue. Hannah Budd. Devin Halpin. Michael Carnes. Emma Drury, of the Drury, unfortunately.

Obviously. Sasha Hampton. Christine Goodwin. Hunter Faulkner. Star Rodriguez Moser. Sorry. Soraya. Christopher Wallen. Anthony Peregrine, Chris Grudzik, Duncan Price, Chris with no last name, Brian G., Karen Windsor, Joe Chang, Derek Kirchner, Nicky Morton, John T. Gaffney, Chris with no last name, Elise with no last name, Alan Powers, Amy Brunfield, akilah bonner akilah tisha alberts s oh i don't know i have a period there m guthry uh brooke crowder crawford uh hayley coman uh or coming i don't know or going uh izzy with no last name cello l uh sean shauna cope s sins keep uh caitlin morgan col Lowry, Izzy with no last name, Meredith

Kummel, Josh Elul, Jocelyn Swearingen, not her last name, but that's pretty cool that she did that. Lynn with no last name, David with no last name, Tyler Smith, Alex Castro, Cheryl Dodged, Roseanne Robinson, Leslie Nelson, William with no last name. We are so close to the end. No, we're not. Raymond Saucedo, Corey Hendricks, Steve Forsell, Blair Bornsten, Bradford John Mosliner, Andrea Papa, Kacen Johnson, Rowan Weeks, Kyle Bailey, Ada Terrell, Kayla Tyree, TJ Brito, Jennifer Copeland, Jennifer Barreto, Deborah Larson, Mary Keenan Brown, Stacia Harmy, Brooke Henderson, Rowan Bojas, Virginia Allen, David Sabisky, Allen with no last name, Jen Phelps, Brian Dennis, Sleazy E. Fucking yeah. Laney Eagle. Lauren King.

Angela with no last name. Jennifer Torres. Cheyenne Luna. Sig Alexander. Cole Fenn in style. Probably not. Mark Burrows. Susan Phillips.

Kimberly Sharp. Kimberly Batone. Haley. Haley Medell. Shelby Gale. Ben Hammond. Matthew Jennings. Joshua Smith.

Joshua Brown. Alyssa Lobig. Doom Rock. Anthony Goldstein, Andrew Bullholtz, Nicole DuPont, Louise with no last name, Blush with no last name, William Carlucci, Deidre Fortino, Vicky Sykes, Molly Kerrigan, Christian Zweifel, Samantha Parker, Megan with no last name, Jordan with no last name, Don Richards, Joshua Peek, the RM Construction Boys, Jaina Wellhouse, Javette Clark, DJ, no, it's not, Di, and Putnam, Putman. Celia Brasguia, nope. Sophia Foster, Sawyer Hunter Brown Dog. Volstead, no first name. Jennifer Kennedy, Devin Guillory. Corrin with no last name.

Michael Humphrey, Tyler Neemiller. Nima, Krista Eiler. Grace Mackey, Trish Murley. Sean Carlson, Kayla with no last name. Michael Conway, Garrett Goodman. Hannah Lorna Bevins, Drew Manery, that's man boobs. Oh, yeah, there you go. Ashley with no last name, Kayla Marquart, Gustavo Cheezetoe. Oh, I don't know what that is.

I imagine it's an inside joke somewhere. Andrew Bruzano, Gemma or Gemma Bowman,key doherty uh dustin baraboo baraboe mike morris amanda marie chris reber courtney withrow karina king elizabeth dan daniel uh sarah gracie lance jeans chelsea rebic lance armstrong no angston angst lance armstrong Angston. Angstman. Lance Armstrong. Sorry. Thanks, Lance. All that ball money. Some of that cancer money. Yeah. Gotta Alcars? Gotta Alcares?

No. Stacey Hardy. Amber James. Tamela Smith. Tamela? Tamela? Tamela. Matt Stein.

McDestroyer. What is that? 71-23, in case you thought it was 71 22 uh nola wins of risa with no last name amelia rupnik jessica with no last name ladonna little elk meredith rogers kyle waters megan de blasio l emily l kate katie landy uh what is this tater nuts uh vanessa hancock Vanessa Hancock, Kyle Bouter, Kate Langwagner, Mike J11, not MKEJ11, not the 10 one. Gotcha. Ted Foster, Chelsea Taylor, Casey Ferran. Gotcha.

Alyssa Eggleston, Oak Ocajawan. No. Oak Wayne, Oak Juan, KJ. Dylan Leahy, Amos DeJarnis. Shit, what am I doing Austin Walsh Lori Piat Bobby Stromer

Paula Strauss Trevor Atkins Will Bronig Casper with no last name Haley Salo Jbone83 Nancy Minister Hannah Carpenter

no what is that Hannah Carpenter Haley Silo Silen I said that Christy with no last name Will Bronig I said that Megan Christy with no last name. Will Brunton. I said that.

Megan Booth or both. Jennifer Edwards. R.J. Morgan. Aaron Hedges. Jordan Seaworth. Mark Anderson. Chris Ster... No, Carter. Carter Hearn.

Janelle Kaiser. Nick Mahmood. Ben with no last name. Heather Toot. Savannah Barford. Angie Lynn Sands. Zane Brown, Pat Adams, Katie Cavanaugh, Jamie Stott, Madison Spencer, Will McGohan, Rosa Garcia Areola. Oh, Jesus.

That's real. That's a real thing. All right, then. Krista Eiler, Jamie Petruzzino. No, Petrizzo. Jane Petruzzo. Fuck. I'm sorry, then. Krista Eiler. Jamie Petruzzino. No, Petrizzo. Jane Petruzzo. Fuck. I'm sorry, Jane.

I'm an idiot. Robin Biscup Rule. Bryce Metzger. Raina Ferlate. Kyle Moore. Bill Pace. Chrissy Taylor. Olivia Lau.

Kyle Moore. Anna Cubatis. Jason Comby. Betsy with no last name, Kara Joseph. Now we're getting close. See what I'm doing here? Hey, here we go. Homestretch.

Meredith Schumacher, what is that? Mythcool, Joseph Lopez, Terry Irvin, Janet with no last name, Scott McCormick, Lori Farney, Adrian with no last name, Jennifer Loss, Daniel Ballew. Ashton Starr. Olivia Tower. Adam Lind. What is that? Tate Ahrens. Allison McGlynn. Jennifer Turner.

Marcelino Felipe. Scott Botello. Roe. Broden. That's no last name. Braden Matthews. Megs Goodwin. Meigs.

Megs. Fiona Crisp. Skylar Rexwinkle, I think. John Schiffer, Crystal Stout, Rebecca Pig, Dwayne Tucker, Ross Timbrook, Timbrook, Jessica Andrews, Derek Shaw, Kristen with no last name, Petriona, no, what is this, Petriona, what is that? Who are you asking? Patrionia Android, what? I don't know what I'm doing i'm sorry they know who they

are they tried to be they know and i fucked it up kristin would know last name mike would know last name matt neil jesse uh mayfair no yeah uh danielle dun dunmeyer jeff hamrick uh hammock jordan volkstad sam and kade uh mckenzie uh ann lund i don't knowund. I don't know how many names that was. Amanda, what is this? Jack Rivens, Amanda Blackholm, Jordan Folkstad, Mr. Meekie, Jalen Bates, Diffin, and Jennifer Tennyson. Amber with no last name. Nicky Gorey, Emily Adams, Paul Jongma, Christopher Weber, Michael O'Gear, Jamie Ellsworth, Gracie Hagan, Rosemary Lockwell, or Cockwell. Steve, I think it is. Steve Cockamese.

It's a language game. Anyone whose name doesn't have cock in it coming up? This is all cocks from now on. Matilda Cock Carter. Coming up, this is all Cox from now on. Matilda Cox Carter. Valicia Cox Gaines. Ty Cox Skiba. Jordan Cox Knapp.

Aid Cox Matthews. Antonio Cox Carey. Kaley. That's a nice name. Springer rolls off the tongue. Khalil Kelly. Asha Marie. Jen Myers.

Brittany Robeson. Mindy Susan Carlos. Shannon Ruger, Elijah Personette, Margo Jackson, Zach Hall, Kimberly Hawley, Nicole Francis, Allison Menz, Mike Collier, Amanda Portala, Michelle Bauer, Regina Caldart, Bradley McDougal, Allison Baruth, Tessa Goodman, or Godman, Shelby Strube, Gabriel Rowland, Arthur Deaton, Brad Struber, Linda Johns, Thomas King, Jamie Larson, Joe Byerly, Brandon Culberson, Justin Haynes, Micaiah King, Warren Pierce, Tom with no last name, Kaya King, Warren Pierce, Tom with no last name, Jacqueline Van Grudel, Neil Laff, Corey Seiler, Caitlin McGarry, Carrie Bendall, Joseph Nelms, Mike, no, it's MKB, Jenny Lee, Anne Bradley, Tabitha Ripley, Marissa McLaughlin, Donovan Davis, Tim Berger, Corey DeBlack, Rue Lee Story.

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Stephanie Cruz, Ian Woodhams, Mariah Plotkin, Heather Legg, Laura Allen-Bertsfield, Alexandra Brakovich, Brakovanovich, Brakovanovich. Kokanovich? Yep, Kokanovich. See how much easier it is. It's so much easier connor cock mckelvey austin wood and his cock parents hey what thanks cock parents we appreciate that you guys are amazing will nagel laura ellen brutsfield tamar uh chalker jacob disaro effron

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They wanted to just be mad at your fisticness. How could they do that? There's so many things that people want to say to me. And if you want to say them to me, you can find me at Wisman Socks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N Socks on Twitter and Instagram. What about you? Oh, boy. You can find me at Jimmy P is funny or just copy and paste

my name from the show description and plug it in that way and save yourself some misspellings because autocorrect will not take my last name as a name ever it's going to correct it to something else petroleum or something so you guys can do that and until then thank you for joining us again on another

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