Crime in Sports - #208 - Championship Level Drama - The Litigiousness of Scottie Pippen

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

This week, we look at a very successful person, who never seemed like they'd turn out to be so successful. He was a six time NBA champion, who played next to the great of all time. He also sp...ent money in dumb ways, drove a little tipsy, was a little careless with guns, and the police know the address where he and his reality show star wife lived. Not to mention, more lawsuits than you could shake a stick at, including one that names a 5 year old girl as a target. What a mess! Grow tall after most people are done growing, win everything you could possibly win, and still be thought of as mainly a sidekick with Scottie Pippen!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:48 Somebody very famous. And for once, we're going to take advantage of something being popular at the moment. We never do that. Yeah. Whenever like Dark Side of the Ring will do somebody, a wrestler, sometimes that I have literally on the schedule for right around when they have it. And I will push it back because i don't want to look like i'm riding their coattails like shit like that yeah this one fuck it it's
Starting point is 00:05:09 been on the schedule let's do it and the last dance has been out so lucky us i guess let's get to it scotty pippen yeah everybody or his servers call him no tipping pippen and we will we will talk about that barkley has some great quotes about that. That's the fucking funniest thing I've ever heard. No tipping. He's known as the cheapest bastard ever. At golf course, I heard somebody talking about a caddy at a golf course in Chicago when he would golf. Whoever the new caddy was, they would let him do it. Like, oh, you know what? You're the new guy.
Starting point is 00:05:39 You can take Scotty Pippen. Selling him prestige. Well, they'd be all excited. Like, oh, man, it's a famous guy, and I'm going to get a huge tip. And then Scotty Pippen would be an asshole to them for 18 holes and not give them a fucking dime they were like thanks that's like initiation basically into the caddy world as you get to caddy for scotty pippen hilarious and be completely disappointed by one of your heroes that's a little sneak preview of this episode sc Scotty Maurice Pippin is his given name.
Starting point is 00:06:05 His birth name is Scotty. On his birth certificate, it is S-C-O-T-T-Y. No. On his birth certificate. But he goes by Scotty, I-E, like you have Jimmy, because he said when it's Scotty with a Y, people would shorten it and call him Scott. Oh. Because they were like, Scotty, just, oh, Scotty.
Starting point is 00:06:22 But if it's I-E, they think that's his whole name. So they call him actual Scotty. same with me so there you go people everybody calls me jimmy except for one goddamn person it's my landlord and he's as gangster italian as you are and i refuse to tell him my name is jimmy he calls you jim yeah jim how are things hey jim hey jim how you doing fucking great i'll be honest with you you what? For an Italian guy, that's not a bad nickname. Could be worse. You know what I mean? Hey, floppy cock.
Starting point is 00:06:50 How you doing? How's the house? But Italian guys love calling guys E. You know, like Vinny, Nicky, Tony, Bobby. Why doesn't he call me Jimmy? I don't know. It's because it's the IE. He sees it and goes, I can't call him that.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I don't know what the hell that is. Hey, Jim. How you doing? Rent's still on the 15th. Hey, you got the rent. Hey, Jim, you got the rent. I don't know what the hell that is. Hey, Jim. How you doing? Rent's due on the 15th. Hey, you got the rent. Hey, Jim, you got the rent. I don't know if Jim has it, but Jimmy does. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Every check I send him, I was like, goddamn name on it. He still calls me Jim. Doesn't matter. I was like, yeah, I like Jim better. I told him the pool guy wasn't doing his job. He goes, how long has he not been doing his job? I don't know. The pool's been green for like two weeks.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Two weeks and you didn't tell me? What's wrong with you? What are you doing? I could have broke his fucking legs by now. That's the problem. I don't want to tell you. This guy's going to disappear and it's my fault. That's fucking perfect.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I don't want to be a rat. I thought that was the thing here. We don't rat each other out. What are you doing? No, no. He wants to tell you. You've been fucking telling me what that guy's doing. You're wasting my money?
Starting point is 00:07:42 He's wasting my fucking money, this guy. I paid that goddamn guy. That's what it was. You're wasting his money at He's wasting my fucking money, this guy. I paid that goddamn guy. That's what it was. You're wasting his money at that point. I'm scared to death of this man. Well, he should be. I sleep in his house. You probably should be.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I'm sure he's got a key. He does. Sleep tight. I'm horrified. Wake up with horse heads. You know it. Something, anyway. A fucking coyote living in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:08:01 The pool guy. The pool guy's head. The pool guy's head right in my fucking bed. Pablo! Jesus! That's what happens when you don't tell me for two weeks. How's the gardener doing, Winston? What's up with that? Jimmy's like, I don't... I didn't hire these people. These are just people
Starting point is 00:08:18 that come to a rented house to do stuff. I have no part of this. I don't want to get them in trouble. Scotty's got some issues with rented houses later as well. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can't wait. Scotty is involved in so many lawsuits. He's a frivolous sewer.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Really? He's the sewer? He loves to sue people. Oh, my God. Why are we doing this? Oh, I hope he sues us. Scotty Pippin, if you're listening, fucking sue us. Go ahead, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:08:44 You'll lose the same way you did in 2011 when you tried to sue media companies, and they actually falsely reported a story. What we're going to say is all, at least in the spirit of truth, it's all reported shit and at least more than one publication. And even if something turns out not to be true, we think it's true while we're saying it. And it's satire. We're covered three ways.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And we have lawyers. Our agency has lawyers. Eat dick, Scottie Pippen, you Easter Island head-looking motherfucker. I'll just sue PBS for using your face. That's it. Exactly. Scottie Pippen, by the way, definitely one of the ten ugliest men in the history of basketball. Like I said, when the Bulls and the pacers would play each other in the 90s
Starting point is 00:09:25 it was a horror show between him you got pippin you got reggie miller and then you got rick smiths his fucking weird gangly long long-headed oh my god three of the ugliest people of all time everybody on that on one court making bj armstrong look like a fucking handsome man look handsome craig hodges is like look at me baby popping mark jackson is digestible on those teams randy brown is like uh it's up with that defense bitch yeah better give will purdue we better break will purdue a piece of that shit off motherfucker that's right he's coming Weddington coming for that ass. Isn't there a guy named Pooh on the Pacers, too?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Pooh Richardson back in the day. There was a Pooh. So Scotty's born September 25th, 1965. He's born in Hamburg, Arkansas, which is southeastern Arkansas. Not good. Rural and poor. Yeah. Fucking poor.
Starting point is 00:10:23 That's why he's cheap. Oh, Scotty's. He doesn't want to go back to Arkansas. Oh no, Scotty is, well he likes going back there. He's a crime and sportser so he's going to go home. But he is fucking poor. He's the youngest of 12 children. Oh Jesus. That is like depression level
Starting point is 00:10:38 poor. That's Dust Bowl poor. I like the different levels of poor. That's Dust Bowl poor. That's like some crazy shit. His father was born in 1920. So, I mean, he was 45 because he had 11 kids before that. So, I mean, he's from a different time, from a poor time in rural Arkansas. This was hard scrabble shit here. Scotty's probably seen one of his siblings die by now.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Well, let's talk about it. Sorry. No. I's gonna happen so many times hey no spoiler alert uh he's his parents are ethel and preston pippin so uh his mother was six feet tall really so yeah his mother's six foot his father's six one so they're both pretty tall especially for back then six foot tall for a woman who was born in 1920 is a big woman back then, so they're making some big kids. All the kids were pretty tall, but Scotty ends up being the tallest. They saved up all the genetics for one last shot.
Starting point is 00:11:34 This is it, Ethel. You better collect it, because it's coming, goddammit. Hang on to the bedpost. This is the tall load coming through right now. I've been saving this motherfucker up for 25 years, Ethel. Don't walk your knees, you'll pass out.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Better hold your hands in front of your back socks or I'm going to blow out your spine. Tell you right now, Ethel. Better hold it on in now. Here it comes. We got to time this with a kegel. You ready?
Starting point is 00:12:02 You owe me six foot eight. I'll make a sandwich now. Have a with a Kegel. You ready? You owe me six foot eight. We'll make a sandwich now. Have a good one, Ethel. His parents couldn't send anybody to college. They were just blue collar and very blue. His father worked at a paper mill. I mean, it's not, they're not a wealthy family. Obviously, most people with 12 kids aren't wealthy. Yeah. But they're really pretty poor.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Their father worked in a paper mill until he had a stroke. What? And that paralyzed his right side. And that took him out of the workforce. Yeah. He couldn't walk anymore and affected his speech because the right side of his face was completely numb and drooping. It's working to death. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 They worked to a stroke at the paper mill. Half death. Half his body. Right, right. Got a commission. He was worked half to death, worked to a stroke at the paper mill. Half death, half his body. Right, right. Got a commission. He was worked half to death, literally. Not only that, his brother Ronnie, obviously his older brother, had an accident in gym class and was confined to a wheelchair from then on as well. So you got to drag half a dad, you got to load Ronnie up in the wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:13:03 This is a rough upbringing here. A lot of stuff going on. There was, at certain times, you know, we're talking 12 people. You know, once some kids moved out. But 12 people in a two-bedroom house. Rough times, man. We've talked a lot of hardscrabble beginnings. And this is right up there.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I mean, it's not no floor. It's not Toe Nash or anything or some of those people we talked about enough you know with a dirt floor and shit like that but it's still not great uh scotty he always would uh he'd always try to figure out little things he could do around to make a couple dollars here there as a youngster here you know trim some stuff and work for on somebody's help them with a project or do something. Odd jobs. Odd jobs, anything. He said that basketball
Starting point is 00:13:48 was an escape for him. He said, quote, basketball gave me the opportunity just to get out of the house and play. So it was just something that's not heavy. Nobody's injured. Nobody's poor.
Starting point is 00:14:00 On the basketball court, everybody's the same. That's the wonderful thing about basketball. Equalizer. You can have a dirt floor, and you can be with somebody who is the wealthiest in the world, and you can dunk right on their head, and it doesn't fucking matter. Taste these nuts.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Taste these nuts. Salty and on your forehead. Does that taste like southeastern Arkansas? How's that taste like? That tastes like success, motherfucker. That tastes like the estate tax so he said that he was acting he's kind of an immature kid everybody said because he was kind of baby he's the youngest of 12 that's that's gonna happen he went to hamburg high school he was a point guard because he wasn't very big he uh all the way up until
Starting point is 00:14:43 his sophomore year of college, he's about 6'1". Really? Yeah, Scotty is like Dennis Rodman. The only two guys I've ever heard of in all the time we've done crime and sports are Scotty and Dennis Rodman. Got a growth spurt at 22?
Starting point is 00:14:55 20 years old, they shot up to ridiculous proportions, which is, it's just crazy. Yeah. So, yeah, he was, but even as a point guard, he's a good player. He's a solid player. And that's going, he was, but even as a point guard, he's a good player. He's a solid player. And that's going to help him tremendously later, because as a point guard, he has now learned the art of defense and steals.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And also how to control the floor, how to distribute. And that's why later on, it helps his game. He's kind of a point forward. He'd bring the ball to the court a lot. He has experience doing that. Good ball handler. And, Scotty, by by the way we're not going to talk about stats at all today or any of that shit so we're just going to talk about like
Starting point is 00:15:28 hey the bulls won a championship and scotty's doing pretty good yeah because uh there's too much to even go over his career was so it's so long it's long so yeah we just go over years but he he's a good all-around he's one of the best defensive players in the history of the league yeah he's got a really long wingspan like longer than natural for his size which helps a lot he's quick and he's just shifty he's good as he as a point guard in high school he led the team to the state playoffs and earned all conference honors as a senior as well so good guy uh not offered any scholarships it's a small high school nobody notices him and he's only six one and you know just not offered shit so wild between the cracks uh he went to the university of central
Starting point is 00:16:11 arkansas in conway arkansas there uh this he was he went there to try to walk on basically that was his thing uh the coach saw him he was six foot". Nobody gave a shit about him and wasn't offered a scholarship. Nothing. Coach didn't offer him a scholarship. One of the coaches says, quote, Scotty was about 6'1", about 135 pounds. Unbelievable. It's a little guy. They said, quote, his high school coach called us and said he had a young man with the potential to be a college player.
Starting point is 00:16:42 So we looked at him and said we'd help him with a work-study grant if he'd be the team manager. So Scotty was the equipment manager. That's the way he was allowed to be on, sort of on the team. Is he could kind of get, not a scholarship, but a work-study grant from a special thing. And then if we're blowing out our rival in the arrival championship game you can play a minute and a half scotty can play in garbage time and then then fucking collect everyone's jockstrap afterwards yep uh they asked this coach what would that entail and he said quote you know sweeping up the gym washing the clothes for the players bringing out and picking up the equipment
Starting point is 00:17:22 picking up the balls so he'd give everybody the, and then he'd come out and practice, and then he'd have to stay and clean it all up again. This would be such a popular story had he not played with, I don't know, the best basketball player that ever lived. That's the thing. When you listen to Scottie's story, it's pretty fucking remarkable. It's crazy. Everywhere.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah. What he's accomplished. And he's the ultimate shadow guy. He's not a Marty Jannetty. He's not the other guy from Wham. That's not Scottie guy he's not a marty genetti he's not a the other guy from wham that's not scotty it's not it's but scotty like gets that reputation as oh he's a sidekick but he's not a robin no you know what i'm saying robin was like we can distract you with robin and then batman will come in that's not what it was scotty was he's good it was one and one a
Starting point is 00:18:02 you know what i mean jordan's a better player but i mean scotty was a top five player in the league and he just happened to be playing next to the one so it's fucking brutal you know like that's tough the guy who's also a silhouette yeah it's it's brutal more recognizable than scotty pippen by far it's it's brutal and and definitely having jordan there helped scotty pippen be a better player but at the same time having scotty pippen there sure as shit help if you know how basketball works especially that triangle offense and shit scotty pippen did a lot and he really was really a huge part of getting jordan the ball and defense and absolutely he was amazing so anyway uh scotty was there he said he didn't mind it too much it was good that
Starting point is 00:18:46 it was close to home he could still go home uh you know that sort of thing he wanted to wanted to be around there he says quote i just like to be around family uh he says he likes to you know play dominoes and checkers and shoot pool he says quote as i look back i have to say growing up was fun not not a problem at all. And I knew if I didn't make it in the NBA, I'd probably be doing something like I do now. Maybe in an athletic department somewhere. I just have a smaller TV. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:17 So he's like, you know, I would have been fine. He grew up meager and wasn't real. That's a nice way of saying flying private isn't that great. Yeah, you know, I'd have been fine with whatever. I still wouldn't tip. I mean, I'm still not going to tip, but I would have an excuse to not tip. Now I'm just an asshole. I wouldn't have a nickname is what it would be. So his freshman year, 83, 84, he averages 4.3 points a game in college.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So he's not playing that much, obviously. He's not shooting that much. Sophomore year, though, different story, he averages 18.5 points a game. And that's because he shot up to 6'8". Now it'll do it. So now all of a sudden he's a force to be reckoned with. It's a completely different story.
Starting point is 00:19:58 He goes from three rebounds a game to 9.2 rebounds a game. Oh, geez, this is much easier. I'm so much closer. I'm closer to the basket now. I just put it right in. This is nuts. It's just right there. It's super easy. I just pull them over everybody.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's got so much easier now. When he was a freshman, though, the only way he stayed on the team is some of his teammates quit. They just quit. That's the type of program we're dealing with here there's no other nba players coming from central arkansas it's just scotty pippen so that was it so he got to play in games as a reserve as a you know in the in the beginning and as a freshman because people quit because they needed bodies yeah and he said he
Starting point is 00:20:40 just kept pestering the coaches for scholarship. Like, come on, give me a scholarship. Come on. Come on. So Pippin said, quote, a few guys academically fall off, so some scholarships become available. And he said, I go back and ask the coach. I was very persistent. And he finally gave me a scholarship. Holy shit. So that's how it works here. Pippin is the epitome of don't quit.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Don't quit. Yeah. Don't quit and you'll grow seven inches that's just don't quit and grow seven inches don't quit and maybe something miraculous will happen that's the thing and then you'll get the job that's don't quit you need other stuff too that's what everybody says whenever anybody like in comedy whenever anybody's like i mean if you stay at it long enough no no that's how that's what successful comics tell you to just get out of the conversation if you stay at it long enough yeah and also have a lot of talent and a shitload of luck yeah maybe you'll be able to pay your rent in 14 years and that's what they should say
Starting point is 00:21:34 for that for that day 14 years in advance for it just really working out really better be writing every day every day a material not like not like why the chicken shit none of that as soon as it's good you need another hour you really better just shove that one so in 14 years have eight hours of day every day a material not like not like why the chicken shit none of that as soon as it's good you need another hour so you really better just shove that one so in 14 years have eight hours of clean material okay that crushes and destroys and you're ready all right break and go and go get to work fucker yeah he says about it scotty says i was getting better at such a rapid pace and then my freshman to sophomore year over the summer, I grew five inches. They must have been thrilled when he came back to school.
Starting point is 00:22:09 They're like, holy shit. This is awesome. Wow. It's like working your whole life to be a comic, and then Louis C.K. dies and sends you a bunch of material he's never done. Yeah, yeah. And now all of a sudden you're amazing now you're doing well you're not louis ck so you can tell the jokes yes you're allowed
Starting point is 00:22:29 to go out and tell them so people want to hear you tell them so uh pippin though he says that he was just doing great one of his coaches at the time said quote the thing about scotty was he was just shy but people who knew him on a personal basis liked him. But he had to get to know you. As for basketball, it wasn't long before we started saying we had something special here. He had those long arms, and when he grew to 6'5", 6'7", he could still play like a guard. By the end of his freshman year, we put him on scholarship, and then by the end of his sophomore year, he was our best player. So they talk about getting lucky.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Just having some guy, you didn't even have to recruit him. And then by the end of his sophomore year, he was our best player. So talk about getting lucky. Just having some guy, you didn't even have to recruit him. He's popping up, begging you for a scholarship, and then he's just growing and becoming this great player. What a great investment that is. Holy shit. It's incredible. It's wild, man. So, yeah, he was doing great.
Starting point is 00:23:20 The growth spurt obviously helped. In his junior and senior year, he was the twice consensus NAIA All-American as well. NAIA is the league. So doing great. His stats here quickly, 85, 86, 19.8 points, 9.2 rebounds a game. That's junior year. Then senior year, 23.6 points a game, 10 rebounds, 4.3 assists. He stayed here the whole time stayed for back then
Starting point is 00:23:46 he stayed four years loyalist i mean at this place he didn't even move into no that's no well you have to sit out a year if you transfer and a guy like him what's he gonna do for a year sophomore year he didn't do good enough yeah he's not gonna do yeah i mean he could have probably transferred between sophomore and junior year after his 18.5 season yeah but but he good enough oh that's good enough to transfer he was six seven by then they would have they were someone would have picked him up but he would have to sit out a year and he would have had to go far from home not his personality this is crazy he'd rather stay so lucky and to stick around and so but then again also too sticking in something
Starting point is 00:24:17 like this the competition is lower so he's he's gonna shine and it's helping him and it works and uh at the end of his season, this will have future ramifications. November 12th, 1986, the New York Knicks trade a future first-round draft pick, which turns out to be... Oh, this is annoying. Okay. With the 1990 second-round draft pick to the Seattle Supersonics for Gerald Henderson and all this shit, right?
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. This, by the way, that's Scottie Pippen. So the Knicks traded away the pick that got Scottie Pippen the year before the draft. So they traded to the Sonics. Where did the Sonics get it? Well, you'll find it here. 1987, by the way, before this happens here, before the NBA draft, he has a son. His son is born.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Before anything? Before anything. End of college. Oh, my God. Antron is his name. What? Yeah, not Scotty Jr., so Antron. Son Antron, 1987 here.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Antron Tron. I guess you'd call him Tron or Ant. Yeah. Antron. Antron. Or call him Antron. Shit, that's his name. That's an awful name.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It's a weird one. It's dumb. So it's a little strange. It sounds like a comic book character. It's a weird one. It's dumb. So it's a little strange. It sounds like a comic book character. It's a little odd. It sounds like he just threw... It sounds like his arm is a laser. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It's fucking silly. There was this movie called Tron. Tron, yeah. This is Antron. And then there was the dude in the Chappelle show. Chappelle was actually named Tron. That was fucking great. He's just being a dickhead.
Starting point is 00:25:43 He's just being a dickhead. There he is. We'll talk more about his kids, by the way. They'll keep popping up. Some for good and some for bad. Oh, boy. So June 22nd, 1987 is the NBA draft. The number one overall draft pick that year.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You remember, Jimmy? 87. No, I don't. No? Guess. Patrick, no? No, that's 85. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Jesus. It's a big man. I'll give you a hint. It's a big man. That's where I was fishing. Back then,. It's a big man. Is it? It's a big man. That's where I was fishing. Back then, it was always a big man. Xavier McDaniels. No.
Starting point is 00:26:10 David Robinson. Oh! David Robinson, overall, out of the Naval Academy. Where did Xavier McDaniel go? Was he earlier or later? Earlier, I think. I mean, years. Mid-80s.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Was it? 85, 84. You're probably right. He was with the Sonics right now. Yeah, I think so. Armand Gilliam going number two to the Suns. My word, everybody taking big ones. Yeah, the Suns picked him up.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Jersey, Dennis Hobson. The Clippers picked Reggie Williams. And then the Seattle Supersonics, with the No. 5 pick overall, take Scottie Pippen out of the University of Central Arkansas. Now, the Bulls coveted him, but they picked at No. 10 and couldn't get up high enough to get him right that was the thing they wanted to trade up by the way a couple other guys kenny smith who was always on the tnt show that's he's picked number six by sacramento kevin johnson yeah
Starting point is 00:26:54 longtime suns guard and mayor of sacramento he uh is picked by cleveland number seven and then olden polonese who we have uh boy the talked about. And Derek McKee, number nine. Number 10 by the Bulls, Horace Grant. So they got Ho Grant in this. They got Grant and Pippen in this year. In the fucking top 10. This one year, they got Grant and Pippen. Reggie Miller, number 11.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Muggsy Bogues, number 12. This is like just a who's who lineup here. Yeah, 90s basketball. Yeah, Mark Jackson. Reggie Williams, is that the guy that died for the Celtics? No, no, no. Was that Reggie what? Reggie what? What is that Reggie that died for the celtics no no no no reggie what reggie what was that reggie oh reggie lewis reggie lewis yeah reggie lewis yeah i'm like oh yeah the
Starting point is 00:27:31 guy who dropped because i he len bias was drafted by the celtics too so i didn't know if you meant len bias or reggie lewis who actually just dropped dead in practice unbelievable that was weird they had bad luck they really do in like in like eight years they lost two amazing players to fucking death freak act under 25 years old like how many other franchises have that and then everybody make up for winning all those championships and everybody that was valuable for that team was retiring right oh yeah they're all retired celtics were fucked and they realized they were white also which was a problem so it was a big issue it's all all a fucking meltdown. It all fell apart at that point. So Scottie Pippen 5 to the Sonics.
Starting point is 00:28:08 The Sonics trade him with a 1989 first round draft pick to the Bulls for Olden Polonese. So crime and sports for crime and sports here. Is that real? That is real. Didn't we talk about it? We had to talk about that then. Yeah, I think we did probably. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:28:26 It's interesting. They traded Scottie Pitt. That is maybe the greatest bargain in NBA history. That's not bad. Yeah, let's see here. The second round. And also, they got Polonise and a second round pick and a later first round pick who the Bulls ended up getting B.J. Armstrong out of just as a throw in.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Whereas the Sonics ended up out of their first-round pick they traded for. They got Jeff Sanders. What the fuck? Yeah. And the Bulls got three of their dynasty. Yeah. They're starting five in the same round. Yeah, they got B.J. Armstrong, Horace Grant, and Scottie Pippen all out of the same deal.
Starting point is 00:29:00 B.J. didn't come until two years later with the draft pick. Oh, got it. Okay. But still, it ended up being that. Now, the coach at the time of the bulls said quote i don't want to say he was the baby of the family about scotty but you could tell when he got here he was still a young man who was having his eyes open for the first time he is coming from oh my god rural arkansas youngest of 12 poor as shit and then he went to some little tiny college. He's not pampered. That college now, I looked it up, where they play basketball, it's like a 6,000 seat arena
Starting point is 00:29:31 now. So it's not- Unbelievable. Not 20,000. I mean, I doubt that. I don't know if they fill that up. To Chicago. And that was before Pippen.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Right. So that was after Pippen. So he's going to Chicago now, which is a- What's this elevated train about? Yeah. What's this train about? It's not full of grain so he's going to Chicago now, which is a... What's this elevated train about? Yeah, it's... What's this train about? It's not full of grain. What's going on? Usually it's livestock in it. You guys die the river green?
Starting point is 00:29:52 What? This is nuts. Jesus Christ. This place is crazy. There are buildings above five stories here. Where's your grain silos? I don't see a grain silo anywhere around the stadium. I see that you got snow but where are your tornado shelters i'm gonna need those it's almost season let's get going so uh
Starting point is 00:30:12 his tractor tires in the oh shit his agent at the time says quote like going from high school to the nba this kind of was for him because that's kind of what that college was like. There's large high school programs that are more pampered and kind of big time than that college at the time. So very different thing. You've got to remember, he never even was on a plane in college. They didn't fly. What? Yeah, they would go from. Did you ever see?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Did you watch Mr. Show back in the day? Enough. Yeah. Okay. Do you remember the one where David Cross and Bob Odenkirk were college recruiters? Definitely not. And they were recruiting like four-year-old kids. And they'd go up to mothers, like pregnant mothers, and they'd go, look, I feel you, Stoney's got a good kick, Dad.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Tell you what, it's something. He might be able to be like a power forward or something. And they'd play like these sleazy recruiters recruiting three year olds but they're like for the worst colleges like ever like one is like indiana silt basin or some shit and he's like i mean we play outdoors yeah you know our buildings are trailers but we're we're really we got a great program you know like he's david cross is the best it's so fucking odin kirk's like what do you want to be when you grow up and the kid's like three he goes oh you want to be a cowboy yeah we got a two-year cowboy program. It's going to knock your socks off.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm telling you. You come here, and the kid's just playing with blocks and shit. He's a baby. Fucking hilarious. Try on this cap gun, kid. Yeah. That's what I feel like this was. Like, there's no, they don't fly.
Starting point is 00:31:37 They're just driving on buses. It's like minor league college basketball kind of thing. Do you think they've got a bus, or do they drive their own cars? Everybody's showing up in Suzuki Samurai. These people that this is college these kids probably don't have cars a lot of them it had to be a shitty rickety bus i figure it like the like the uh league of their own bus yeah it smokes real bad still but that same bus but in 1983 still says peaches yeah still the rockford peaches scotty pippen, our newest peach. Gina Davis Sunday's in it. They bust to all their games,
Starting point is 00:32:08 is what the agent said. And then after that, he's playing with Michael Jordan. So it's different. Because even by 87, Jordan was an icon. Hadn't won any championships yet, but he was on his...
Starting point is 00:32:18 That dunk is still a thing. And he's on his third shoe at that point. The Jordan 3s were about out at that time. So he's become an icon already. The Jumpman logo is a big deal already. So 87-88, the Bulls finish 50-32.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Doug Collins is the coach. They beat Cleveland in the first round of the playoffs, 3-2, and then lose to the Pistons, 4-1. Everybody did. Which that's the bad boy Pistons. We talked about them with Dennis Rod Ron, the Dennis Rodman episode. You can hear about that. And they were Chicago's nemesis in the late eighties.
Starting point is 00:32:50 That was the big thing obstacle that Michael Jordan bulls had to overcome. Scotty makes 725 grand for this first year, which is probably more than his whole family has made ever. His parents have made, made combined in their lives at that point, working in a paper mill and shit. So that's wild for him. Absolutely. Taylor Swift is soaring high, her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process.
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Starting point is 00:34:56 Now, right away, he marries Antron's mother, Karen McCollum. He marries her. Okay. They said that he liked to join in like jordan's group on the team plane he was trying to be part of the yeah the top tier guys here and playing cards and gambling and shit like jordan likes to gamble he does yeah but they said that they would get closer uh pippin would uh you know the more he'd get involved with them then he'd kind of back off the social group
Starting point is 00:35:26 a little bit he was kind of a this is costing me money it's costing me money I can't hang with these guys I make 725 grand a year and I probably support a couple members of my family
Starting point is 00:35:36 and shit like that this dude makes more than that in shoes in a month right so like I can't I'm not going to gamble with him you don't gamble
Starting point is 00:35:44 if people have a hundred times more money than you that's stupid we're not going to play big bank little bank shoes in a month right so like i can't i'm not gonna gamble with him you don't gamble with people who have a hundred times more money than you that's stupid we're not gonna play big bank little bank no this is gonna end bad for me it's gonna end terribly for me yeah they're just gonna just muscle you out with that shit so uh horace grant says quote he'd want to be like michael but then after he'd hang around michael for little while, Michael might not treat him how he'd like, and he'd come back and sit with us. Then he'd go back again. We were closer friends, but something always brought Scotty back to Michael. He was the cool guy.
Starting point is 00:36:15 That's why. Michael fucking Jordan. It's Michael Jordan. That's what brings him back. He wanted to be a part of that. Yeah. That's a certain air of, it's rarefied air, you know? So, 88-89 Bulls, Is i mean 47 and 35 this team finishes
Starting point is 00:36:28 they win in the first round against the cavaliers again cavaliers must have hated playing them all the time i think the cavaliers hated everything in their life because they were just they were never good they were always like the third best team right in the in the conference always it was whether it was the bulls the Pistons or the Knicks or the somebody would always knock them out. He'd beat them. They beat the Knicks 4-2 after that in the
Starting point is 00:36:54 next series. And then the conference finals, they lose to the Pistons in six again. Really, but they won one more game. It was 4-1 last year. This year it's 4-2 in the series. So it's one more. Pippen makes $575,000 this year. For the same outcome, playing more work, less money.
Starting point is 00:37:12 That's the way it is, man. God damn it. So 89-90 Bulls. They finish 55-27. This is Phil Jackson's first year. Before that it was Doug Collins. He needed to make a change to get over that hump. And they bring in Phil Jackson, who is a goddamn legend.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You could have stopped at God. That's it. Well, he was a great player, too. He's like a weird, like, hippie. He just understands basketball. He's a stoner who, like, gets stoned and sits back. I'm dead serious. This is what he does.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And, like, studies basketball strategy strategy and it makes sense to him. He's one of those guys. He's a savant with the offense. And what are you going to do? So that year, 55 and 27. This year, they beat the Bucks in the first round, three to one. They beat the Sixers four to one in the second round.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And then in the Eastern Conference Finals, it goes all seven and they lose to the Pistons again. So they got closer every time. Five, six, seven. Yeah, but the Pistons were brutal, man. Boy, were they good. They were just tough and trying to take your head off. I'd say Jonas had a mouth.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, he did. He didn't look like he was a mouthy fuck. Oh, he's a mouthy little shit. He looks so handsome. He played at Indiana. He had a big smile on his face, and he was a dick. He's an asshole. Yeah, they talk about that. That's why he big smile on his face. And he was a dick. He's an asshole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 They talk about that. That's why he wasn't on the Dream Team. Really? It was because nobody wanted him on the team. Really? Nobody liked him. Fuck that guy. He was obviously good enough to be on the Dream Team.
Starting point is 00:38:33 He was great. But they basically said, what do you expect when nobody likes you? They asked David Robinson about it. And he goes, well, nobody liked him. It's not a matter of even liking him personally. He was on those bad boy teams where they tried to hurt people. And he was proud of that. So why would anyone want to hang out with him i invite that guy fuck that guy then so that's what it was it was mainly jordan though i'm sure one thing
Starting point is 00:38:53 about jordan that we'll we'll talk about and i it it doesn't come up very much in the last dance because he's in charge of that so that's not a it's not a documentary he wants to narrate his story the way he wants it yeah he made a 10-part infomercial for himself. I'm sorry. Here's why I'm better than everybody. Now, let me tell you something. Michael Jordan, as a player, unbelievable. Top five of all time.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'm not going to say he's the best of all time because I think it's a handful. And we're talking different positions. So that's like saying, who is better? Fucking Joe Montana or Lawrence Taylor? Well, I don't know. They did different things. Who's better, Bill Russell or Magic Johnson? Barry Sanders or Reggie White?
Starting point is 00:39:35 Well, they're completely different. They're totally different. So I think you can't compare Wilt Chamberlain to Michael Jordan. They're just different people. But you have to put them all in the same group. And Kareem and Magic and Oscar Robertson. That's crazy. Yes, it's a hard thing to say.
Starting point is 00:39:51 So top five, great player, all the respect in the world. Nobody can will himself to win more than Michael Jordan. He's amazing at that. He's also a huge, gaping, fucking heaving asshole. He's an asshole. Complete asshole. Treat treats people like shit fucking treats everyone like shit right thinks he's better than everybody which i mean you can be better at everybody at what you're doing but then on a personal level he'll treat you people like that as well you don't get to do that you don't get to do that plus and this is
Starting point is 00:40:22 something that other people might disagree with or whatever, but the last dance brought this up. And I've been saying this since the fucking 90s. Since I was a teenager, I've been saying this, that how come other people with a voice say things that matter? And Michael Jordan just says, buy my fucking shoes and drink Gatorade. Right. And I even noticed that when I was 16.
Starting point is 00:40:43 He won't stand up for anybodyade. Right. And I even noticed that when I was 16. Standing on his own platform, he won't stand up for anybody else. Nothing. He was the biggest icon in fucking sports. Michael Jordan's face was more recognizable than the fucking president, than anybody. Still is. Yeah. I mean, if you take him in 1993. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Peak of his powers. He was the, if he told kids anything, they'd have fucking done it. All day. Anything. he was the if he told kids anything they'd have fucking done it all day anything the worst kids the best kids white kids black kids green kids didn't fucking matter this is why i smoke michael everybody all you had to say yeah don't smoke cigarettes and i wouldn't have done it you wouldn't have done jerk they he refused to ever take a stand because it hurt it would hurt his marketing which is fine if you're us that's why we don't talk about politics we want to piss off a chunk of our audience why would we
Starting point is 00:41:30 it doesn't matter to what we're talking about so who gives a shit what we think politically you don't care it's not going to change a thing anyway it's not going to change anything anyway but if you're michael jordan and i'm not saying he should have said vote for this person for president but certain things he could have spoke about that would have helped and he didn't fucking bother to because oh i don't want to not make an extra fucking hundred million this year do you think that also i just didn't care very much about him do you think that also leaned to uh don't look watch the right hand don't watch the left hand yeah because he's probably got his hand in some shit that oh he's he's a huge gambler he's always cheating on his wife he's a huge gambler. He's always cheating on his wife. He's doing all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And he's got to play Mr. Squeaky clean. Look at me. Be like Mike. I want to be like Mike fucking drinking Gatorade and shit. Monotone. Don't change your inflection. Don't change it. Smile.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Don't scare the white ladies. Don't scare the white ladies. That's what it is, though. Make sure that they'll still buy their kids your shoes. Nobody's scary. Oh, he's not a scary guy. He's a nice, friendly guy. He's got his tongue out. It's adorable. like him you know like that's that's what it was
Starting point is 00:42:29 though and he played the role but i mean at some point gee i don't know maybe now mike i think you got enough cash right point i'm gonna say i think you're comfortable you probably won't lose a dime maybe start saying shit now or you know even though your past cultural relevance it still would have helped more than still so i didn't i was more of a barkley guy i love charles barkley because barkley would tell you to go fuck yourself cause a star don't you know i'm not a role model that was all hidden that whole i'm not a role model was a goddamn marketing campaign because he said that don't don't fucking expect me to raise your kids i'm a goddamn basketball player what i do has nothing to do with your kids right i love that i thought that was great my favorite uh advice i ever got from any politician
Starting point is 00:43:09 or talking head was just get in trouble that's what it is yeah cause cause problems and it changes the status quo it does you don't like what the way things are then fucking get in trouble if not yeah if nothing happens nothing will happen with you then everybody gets in trouble and they change fucking rules so that nobody's in trouble. If nothing happens, nothing happens. Right. That's the way it is. You got to change things. You have to. So, yeah, that's my beef with Jordan.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Otherwise, like I said, as a player, you can't say a negative word about him. He's fucking amazing. But you don't treat teammates the way you treated teammates. You don't fucking – you just don't do that. That's not how you lift people up. And obviously it worked. You just thought you'd win games. Obviously it worked.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But I mean, I never heard of Bill Russell treating anybody like that. And he won like nine championships. One more. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Maybe if he was nicer, he would have won fucking ten titles instead of goddamn. Maybe if it wasn't being a prick to everybody, he would have fucking beat Detroit in the late 80s. You know, maybe if he wasn't a complete twat, he'd be a coach. I mean, granted, he's an owner.
Starting point is 00:44:03 He doesn't want to be. But maybe people would beg him. You know what I mean? And he'd make more money. Yeahat, he'd be a coach. I mean, granted, he's an owner. He doesn't want to be. But maybe people would beg him, you know what I mean? And he'd make more money. Yeah, he couldn't be a coach. You don't think? If he wasn't a cunt, he could. He's too great of a player to be a coach. Great players can't be coaches.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You think that ruins your legacy when you lose? No, no, no. They can't handle it mentally. Remember Larry Bird coaching the Pacers? His fucking head looked like it was going to explode all the time because he's like, why can't you just take the ball and shoot it in there like me? Go back to the three-point line. It's worth three of them.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And then you hit it, and it's good. What's wrong with you people missing shots? Play Wayne Gretzky. Yeah, you can't coach if you're that guy. You just can't. What do you tell Michael Jordan? Be better. When there's a guy between you and the basket,
Starting point is 00:44:43 just jump from behind the free throw line fly over his head and dunk it what the fuck are you people thinking do i have to draw it up for you just so much easier dunk over their heads what are you doing listen to me fuck man so that's a tough thing for a coach that's why the coaches are like 5 11 white guys who are like listen guys or fat as fuck like this is what i would do yeah And you guys are taller, so it's going to work much better. I feel like that's what it is. Coach Carl. Ugly ass PJ Carlissimo.
Starting point is 00:45:10 None of these guys are great players. No, or like a Lenny Wilkins, who was a good player, but not Michael Jordan. You know what I mean? Somebody like that. So, I don't know. Yeah, it's a Rudy Tomjanovich. Mediocre player.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Great coach. Phil Jackson. Got fat as shit. Coaching was his bag. Phil Jackson. Decent player. Better coach. You know? So, that player. Great coach. Phil Jackson. Got fat as shit. Coaching was his bag. Phil Jackson, decent player, better coach. So that's how it works. So Pippen here that year in the 1990 slam dunk contest, Pippen's in it. This was when the end of the era of the big stars being in it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 From 85 to 90, every big star was in it. Jordan was in it every year. Dominique Wilkins was all big star was in it. Jordan was in it every year. Dominique Wilkins was in it. All these guys were in it. Then after this, once Jordan stopped doing it, that was the signal to all the other stars not to do it. And that's when rookies started winning it. Like Harold Minor would win it and shit like that. J.R. Ryder. Yeah, Harold Minor, J.R. Ryder.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Cedric Sabalos. Yeah, guys. Exactly. Younger, more unknown guys who were trying to use it as a platform. As a stepping stone to make some fucking money. Yeah, to maybe get a sneaker deal or something. But it's not going to make Jordan any goddamn money to win this. Not anymore. He already did it. It can only hurt him.
Starting point is 00:46:11 So Pippen in the slam dunk contest did a dunk from the free throw line in 1990. So he's a dude can fly. He's an athlete. He's a hack out of the gate. That's right. Fuck it, I can do it too. I'll deploy like my partner. Yeah, right. So Dominique it, I can do it too. I'll do it like my partner. Yeah, right? So Dominique Wilkins ended up winning that year, beat Kenny Smith.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I don't know if you remember him. Nick's guy. Yeah. Big kid and play, flat top deal. I just remember Dominique's dunk. It was fucking amazing. It was amazing. It was fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:37 His balls almost fell out of those short shorts. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's so high. Kenny Smith, though, I remember this dunk. This is how they describe it. He scored the highest points for originality. His dunk, he started by turning his back to the basket, bounced the ball backwards between his legs and off the backboard,
Starting point is 00:46:55 and then turned and grabbed it in the air and reverse dunked it. It was pretty fucking remarkable. It's pretty interesting. For 1990, it was creative. So Pippen's an all-star this year, makes $765,000. And also in 1990, divorces Karen. Uh-oh. Too grim.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. She was just too grim. Too grim. Couldn't take it. Also, he's got $2 million. Yeah. So far. He's probably got more than that, because he's probably investing and not spending a dime.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Well, yeah. Living in a car. He's also got a couple other ladies out there, and Karen might have known about it. Oh, Scotty's always got a couple in reserve, and that's why he's in court quite a bit. So, 90-91. Bulls are 61-21. They beat the Knicks in the first round. They sweep them.
Starting point is 00:47:36 They beat the Sixers in five games in the second round. Conference finals, they sweep the Pistons. Oh, take that. Take that. Knock the Pistons out, and then beat the Lakers in five games in the final. So they fucking ran it this year. This was two of the greatest teams in history. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And just destroyed them. Dispatch the 80s Pistons. Dispatch the 80s Lakers. Those are those dynasties are over. It's a new era. Next. Yeah, that's that's what it was. Now, Pippen this year is became one of only two players ever to have recorded five steals and five blocks in a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Really? Amazing, right? Now, the other person to do it, any guesses? Oh, shit. Do you play for the 76ers? No. Oh, who? Hakeem Olajuwon.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Oh, well, that makes sense. He did it twice. He got steals, too. Yeah, Hakeem was great. Well, because Hakeem was a goalie, so his reaction time, was a great he's so great he's insane he's such a great player he's he really falls between the cracks and people talk about great players of that era right yeah you don't hear him and then when you watch go watch like the 94 finals or something that guy is a fucking monster is it white people afraid of saying hakeem olajuwon and dakembe matumbo because
Starting point is 00:48:45 those are two of the greatest centers they were great olajuwon was twice as good matumbo's more of a defensive play he's so fucking cool but olajuwon is was amazing just incredible offensively defensively i feel like there's something to that the foreign names scare us maybe he used to uh fuck with shack olajuwon all the time, which I thought was great. He would just fuck with him. And Robinson, too. Yeah. Shaq would just try so hard, and he just couldn't keep tabs on Olajuwon.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And Olajuwon would just go, oh, there you go, big man. And a real calm, weird shit in his African accent. And Shaq would be like, you son of a bitch. Shaq just wasn't. Skinny bastard. He wasn't as athletic. That's a problem. Nobody. When you're that stiff. Olajuwon would just, oh, that son of a bitch. Shaq just wasn't as athletic. That's a problem. When you're that stiff.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Olajuwon would just, oh, that pivot he would do. You're fucked. He's so long. So good. So in the Eastern Conference Finals this year, though, Rodman, this was the year Rodman fouled Pippen really hard. Remember, we talked about that at the time. It gave him a gash over his eye that gave him six stitches.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Right. Scotty Pippen. So during the finals, though, Scotty's contract comes up here. They re-sign him during the finals. We'll find out why here. Now, the contract was called a five-year, $18 million deal, which at the time was pretty good. Except five years from then, it was terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Just right before the cost. Right before before really blew up in money times uh what it did though is this deal was an extension onto his old deal it didn't erase the fact that he still had two remaining seasons on his rookie contract so they didn't wipe those out and give him a better deal they just tacked this onto the end of that yuck which is really kind of sleazy it's like giving you that that negative interest on your car yeah on the end of your loan that's what it was like a balloon yeah a payment so basically what it meant is pippin the bulls had him for seven years for a little over 18 million dollars basically for seven fucking years wow which is 1997 is when his shit's gonna come think about that he's so underpaid and he is And he is one of the most underpaid.
Starting point is 00:50:46 I looked at a, there's a chart of underpaid, like in terms of their war. No, he was overpaid. Not overpaid, but he was paid plenty. Really? I got a list of it. But in their war, which is like their statistical value and all that shit, John Stockton was the most underpaid player of the 90s. Really?
Starting point is 00:51:04 And Scottie Pippen was second. Really? So, yeah. Yeah, and they were very close. Yeah, Stockton didn't get paid shit either. Oh, I see why. Because Scottie made all his money at the end. At the end.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Got it. Oh, he made his money. He made a shitload at the end. Because he made more than Jordan at the end of his career. Yeah, and then at the end, in total earnings in basketball, he ended up with more than Jordan. Right. Which is bonkers.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It doesn't even compute now. Because what's the fucking... Why are we's the pocket jordan put that money in a drawer he didn't care about that he cared about his stock in haines jordan handled that on a round of golf yeah he just didn't give a shit so apparently the bulls spent the entire 1990 91 season under the cap the salary cap at the time so they could reserve a little money for tony kukoc who they had drafted from europe there and they were once he was allowed to join the team they were hoping that he would join the team they needed cap space but he ended up not coming till later so basically the cap space doesn't doesn't roll over from one year to the next right if you have extra space that's gone you got to spend it so they either had to lose the space or use it or lose it basically so it
Starting point is 00:52:05 was midnight was the deadline for the uh day in which midnight on the day the last finals game is the deadline for this so that's the day they signed pippen to this contract doing so allowed them to front load the deal so they added most of it to that year so they actually saved themselves even more fucking money so he did them more favors it's completely ridiculous so really over seven seasons he ended up really getting about 16.4 million dollars that's ridiculous which is silly and uh yeah that's that's crazy wow why the fuck would you do that scotty why would you take it i have an explanation uh but yeah you go see that and you go jesus christ scotty hold out till the end of the the rings are worth it for fuck's sake i go you're gonna wait two more years until this shit's up and you're gonna pay top dollar i'll be moving to
Starting point is 00:52:53 cleveland i don't give a shit fuck this shit so let's let scotty explain it for himself here let's do it in their own words shall we in their own words quote i've always thought that one injury could wipe all of this away. I'm able to run and jump and do all the things I can do. I'm blessed. We're all blessed in the NBA, but I always would look at Daryl Stingley, the crippled former Purdue University and pro player who used to sit behind the Bulls bench in Chicago Stadium. I'd kind of watch him sometimes and see my brother, a healthy, strong young man, and all of a sudden he's confined to a wheelchair to where he can't get around.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I think about that a lot. Daryl Stingley cost him millions. And his brother. Yeah. His brother, too. He said, I could have an accident and break my neck, and then I'm fucked. I have no more money. So he said, this is a guarantee.
Starting point is 00:53:40 It's a smart play. For him, he's worried about it. That's the difference. If he's worried about it that's the difference if he came from money he would have been like oh fuck yourself yeah but he came from place where you don't turn around some you don't turn away someone offering you 18 guaranteed million dollars no matter what you have to do for it doesn't matter fuck it it's worth it i'm set so wild yeah it's it's interesting it's Is that cheap? Is that what that is? Very cheap.
Starting point is 00:54:06 That's a guy that's just so fucking cheap, he's like, there's money right there. I have to take it. Yeah, I have to take it. That's a guy picking up quarters. Yeah, because they knew he came from poor. They knew how he was. He wasn't a big, sophisticated guy. And they fucking capitalized on him.
Starting point is 00:54:17 They capitalized on him. They knew that he would take guaranteed money. That's the kind of guy he was. Wow. Now, Dennis Rodman says about Scototty pippen quote at that time people were calling larry bird the quintessential forward he was great but he couldn't play multiple positions like scotty could scott he wasn't agile enough i just don't think people realize what scotty was doing in 1991 he revolutionized the point forward position all
Starting point is 00:54:39 these players today should thank scotty pippen guys like kevin durant should say wow look what you did for us scotty could handle he could shoot the ball he could defend he could rebound if lebron was playing during the 90s i'd still say scotty pippen was the second best player behind michael so probably right lebron that's the thing when they compare lebron to mike michael jordan a lot they're not comparable players like i said they're apples and oranges as players too right they're just different types of players that's the better comparison scotty and lebron is a very good comparison comparison they can do it all they both have multiple multifaceted skill sets somebody has more rings than the other well yeah scotty but but
Starting point is 00:55:18 lebron although plays has played with many good players none none of them were Michael Jordan also. So that's why it's hard to compare. But I do agree. LeBron, okay, I think LeBron would have been okay in the 90s just because he's a stout motherfucker. Depends on what team he's on, though. So I think if you clotheslined him, he might get up and clothesline you next time. He might. He might adjust to that. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Kevin Durant, I don't see doing that. Steph Curry would have broken legs in 1991 he wouldn't have lasted two games in a series against detroit they would have broken him right and been happy his dad would have broken him yeah that's his dad would have yeah and his dad wasn't that kind of player he still would have done it still would have crushed him so 91 92 bulls 67 and 15 they beat the heat in the in the playoffs they beat the knicks they beat the calves and they go on to beat the Trailblazers in six. And that sprouted that video game, the Bulls versus Blazers.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Bulls-Blazers for Sega Genesis. Great game. Fucking great game. Unbelievable game. Oh, that's just the rosters on it. The old games are the best ones, man. These new ones are fucking... They're amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:21 There's so many buttons. God damn it. That's the oldest you've ever sounded. He goes, there's just so many buttons god damn it that's the oldest you've ever sounded there's just so many buttons james i can't figure it out james i've got these games and i'm trying to do the moves and it's come on the fucking things you gotta do they're like swivel and press this button it's very complicated in other ways no back in the day you'd have spin move that was the one big thing you could do to go around the guy with a spin watch that fucker crossover remember crossover button that would
Starting point is 00:56:50 be it'd be like the r1 would be like the crossover this shit is nuts it's there's like four triggers you get you got a pinky button i love these fucking games for it i i love that you can i'm going around and here and passing I just play it's so complicated I just play the fucking practice mode all day on easy yeah and there's no
Starting point is 00:57:10 you're not playing against anybody it's just a shoot around and then you have to go get the ball again which is a real bitch it's like basically it's just you trying
Starting point is 00:57:17 to figure out how to play this fucking thing they give you like a hoop like a black top and a hoop yeah I've played that
Starting point is 00:57:22 before and I'm doing this for fucking three four hours and I'm going fuck it I can't do it. It's hard to figure out those games just to get the dunking even.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. Because you have to hit the other button right at your peak. Right, to make it do the moves. Yeah, we used to just hit a button and then on NBA Jam, we'd do seven cartwheels. That was one button.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Now I gotta do three to make him do a one-handed dunk. A one-handed straight up dunk. Otherwise, it's two hands straight down. And then he pulls up on the basket and I look like a bitch. And my son goes, that's the one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's the one I can do. Hey, listen. I'm proud of that. Scored on you, bitch. I'm proud of that. Okay? So, Scotty's in. If it's so not impressive, then stop it.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah. Stop me. Can you get in front of me then? I'm doing it all day. Shut this shit down, motherfucker. You're spamming. You're spamming. You're spamming. It's the same move.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Fuck you. Yeah. Good. You're 11. You should have seen that. It was a double dribble, that old Nintendo game where you go in the corner and shoot the fucking thing over and over. I'd have done that to you all day, bitch.
Starting point is 00:58:20 What are you thinking? Do you want to play Mortal Kombat and watch me low kick you for 10 minutes? Let's do that. Yeah, I know how to do it. Great. I'm really good with Street Fighter. I'll Chun-Li bounce around and kick you back and forth. Rattle kick you 30 times.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I know what I'm doing. Let's go. So Scott, he's an all-star that year. He makes $2,770,000 that year. Unreal. So he's got to feel good. And he's a member of the Dream Team. The 1992 Olympics in Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:58:46 The Dream Team. This is by far the greatest assemblage of basketball players ever put together. This is fucking intense, man. Well, yeah. You threw him in there. Maybe he's five fouls still. Go foul somebody, Christian. This is Charles in alphabetical order.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, Clyde Drexler, Patrick Ewing, who was born in Jamaica, but still, that's fine, lived here a long time. Is he a citizen now? I'm sure. Probably. Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Christian Leitner, okay, Carl Malone, Chris Mullen, because you need the threes,
Starting point is 00:59:20 Scotty Pippen, David Robinson, John Stockton. Unreal. That's insanity. Three white dudes three yeah they're lucky to be there latin mullen and larry bird and larry bird who you know you don't even know if you can count him as white larry bird he's fucking amazing so yeah they're obviously amazing if you were old enough to be able to see this, it was just ridiculous watching them just crush Lithuanians and shit. Hilarious. Very funny.
Starting point is 00:59:47 At four in the morning. Yeah. That's what it always was at four in the morning. Scotty scores about nine points a game. It doesn't matter. They're just mixing guys in and out. You could put any five on the floor. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Right. You could put five big men, five points. They would have just crushed you. I'm just here for the Barcelona pussy anyway cares for the barcelona pussy anyway that's it oh man that was a quite the party from what i understood they were i mean think about that crew think about you get jordan and barkley together two of the biggest gamblers in the history of fucking sports and puss hounds and puss hounds jesus they like to go out and booze it up and all that and whoa boy obviously magic johnson dug it too yeah oh he was in there definitely i feel like the only person i've ever heard of
Starting point is 01:00:30 who got aids from fucking yeah no shit from fucking women you know what i mean yeah maybe everybody else got interviews or or sucking dicks maybe and you know what though who knows because athletes get a lot of injections too of shit who knows excellent they really do they'll get vitamin injections and be 12 shots they get all sorts of weird injections all the time who knows if some shit heel doctor gave him a dirty needle somewhere we don't know that is a wild thought that's i've been thinking that from since i started hearing about all the shit athletes are always being injected with team doctors are a cortisone this that they're always injecting them with shit have no idea what's it so you have no idea yeah who knows that's unbelievable why have i never thought i don't know i don't know i don't know you just look
Starting point is 01:01:12 at magic you just go ah no needles going that guy yeah yeah look at him well no i don't think he was shooting up heroin that's what you think yeah that's how you look at it right away it could have been something much less sinister where it was b12 B-12, or like I said, a painkiller. I mean, who knows? Goddamn flu shot. Flu shot. Who knows? Dirty needle.
Starting point is 01:01:29 It might have been a mix-up. We have no idea. Maybe it was like on Oz, and he had like Adebisi pissed at him. Somebody hit him with a hot one? Stick him with an AIDS needle. So, 92-93 Bulls this year really broke my heart as a Suns fan. I like two teams. I like the Suns.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I like the Knicks. Neither will ever win a championship ever, ever, never, ever. And two years in a row, they both came about as close as you can. One year, and then the next one the next year, and then they both were terrible forever. And both problems are here. So 57-25 the team goes this year. They beat the Hawks.
Starting point is 01:02:02 They sweep the Hawks. They sweep the Cavs. They beat the Knicks in six games. And then they play the series against the Suns. This was Jordan versus Barkley. Great series. I could still fucking choke that little Paxson asshole for hitting that three-pointer.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Does nobody let him open? And the announcers were even saying, I think Marv Albert said, as long as Paxson doesn't get open, this game's just about over. I watched that that very i think that was on my birthday too i was watching that i was just mad i was watching with my friends i'm like are you fucking kidding me we smoked a lot of weed don't worry the sons will still put together a goddamn uh championship parade and because yeah why the fuck not that was hilarious that i heard too i'm like why
Starting point is 01:02:45 is there a parade there's a parade for losers you don't lose yeah when the knicks lose yeah they just come home and people go hey you fucking suck nobody fuck there's no parade there's no ticker tape there's none of that shit arizona had never had you want a parade fucking win something all right pal arizona had never had any team win anything ever and to be in the fucking finals like that. It was good enough. Such a big deal. This whole place, I just remember growing up here and being, look, everywhere you went,
Starting point is 01:03:11 people were painting Suns logos on their fence. On their cars. Yeah, on their cars. Cars were fucking painted. Painted. Unbelievable. Businesses were painting their buildings with Suns logos. It was nuts.
Starting point is 01:03:21 That was when my mom had just moved out here. And I remember being like, whoa, they're really into the Suns. On Central, that guy that painted that whole brick fence yeah he just took it down like two years ago i remember that he had like the logo from 1991 or some shit it was weird just painted it brown like a year ago it was a big deal and broke all of our hearts so uh he's an all-star that year pippin as well makes 3 million 425 000 bucks i'm gonna say this it's a weird thing to say but grace really i'm gonna say grace for a reason just because this is kind of when the next year his reputation takes a kind of a hit and then he starts being in the like mr tabloid after that so this was like
Starting point is 01:03:58 the last year where people were still considering him he had a great backup quarterback syndrome there's a weird thing that people have and they have it He had a great backup quarterback syndrome. There's a weird thing that people have, and they have it with everything, of a backup quarterback syndrome. And a perfect example is in the 1990s, the Dolphins had Dan Marino, and their backup quarterback was Scott Mitchell, who's a 6'7", left-handed pile of shit
Starting point is 01:04:21 that can throw a ball once in a while. And he went to detroit he went to detroit got a big contract because when marino was injured for a couple games scott mitchell looked half decent ah so he looked half decent so everyone in miami started saying let's shit can marino this scott mitchell guy looks like the shit and then detroit gives him a big contract and we see what happens he's not damn marino jimmy garoppolo yeah there you go there's a backup well he went to the super bowl so he that's his first year would you call that a super bowl appearance first year he went all the way to the super bowl it looked like second still the first year as a starter he goes to the second that's right yeah
Starting point is 01:04:57 still though he was hurt for pretty close five games yeah still pretty close to it fucks porn starts like a fucking well he's a handsome guy handsome guy apparently he throws some bedroom Olympics down he's whipping some cock left and right so that's fine for him so yeah but it's it's different though there's a backup quarterback syndrome where people will see somebody that they don't get to see often enough or think that they're not getting the chance so they'll think that they must be great right because I saw one little flash so if that extrapolated into more obviously it's just going to be too late. So that's kind of where it was with Jordan and Pippen,
Starting point is 01:05:28 where there was a lot of people who would still say that, I think Pippen's a better player. There was literally people that would say that. Oh, boy. You know what I mean? And that sort of thing. So he still had that, like, oh, he's in Michael's shadow, and everyone felt bad for him and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Well, 93-94 is when Jordan takes off. Oh, you got your chance, Scotty. Yeah, he decides to go play baseball for a year and it's scotty's team and we'll find out at the end of it kind of what what this entailed and really hurt his reputation among people for a long time uh he says scotty says about jordan leaving quote i missed him as a teammate when he left he taught me a lot but mostly it was fun in practice that changed after he left i loved competing against him trying to beat him although i'll admit most of the time he
Starting point is 01:06:09 got the best of me but it was such a challenge to stop a spectacular player like that you know if you want to practice your d i guess michael jordan's the guy to do it on so on not bad he said quote it wasn't much fun after that i never wanted to be michael jordan although i would like to trade bank accounts i'm comfortable with who i am i came in during an era of legends michael charles carl malone david robinson players in the league players the league promoted i was not one of those players and i got where i am by playing i'm proud of that yeah which is true he wasn't one of the kind of commercial guys of the nba it's a great point yeah remember those pippin shoes no no exactly he had shoes but they were they weren't jordan's and they were kind of ugly yeah they guys of the NBA. That's a great point. Yeah. Remember those Pippen shoes? No. No, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:45 He had shoes, but they weren't Jordans. And they were kind of ugly. Yeah, they weren't. They weren't great. No, it wasn't a popular shoe. Yeah. It just wasn't. Now they're pretty cool because it's nostalgic, but it wasn't a great shoe then.
Starting point is 01:06:56 At the time, they weren't cool. Like, oh, I got those Pippens. No one was saying that. I liked the Barkley Air Maxes. They were cool. Anyway, a former coach said, quote, I'll watch Scottie even today and even before Michael came back. He'd be going down court late in a game and looking to find someone.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Scottie is not the kind of player to make winning shots, game-winning plays, but he was always more unselfish than Michael. If I were on the floor, I'd want to play with a guy like Pippen more than Jordan, but the perception always runs ahead on the floor, I'd want to play with a guy like Pippen more than Jordan. But the perception was always the perception always runs ahead of the reality. And Michael was the guy always perceived as hitting that winning shot and Scotty not doing it. But Scotty would set him up for it. Scotty would draw a guy and then fucking kick it to him. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Scotty would be there. So I also say that because January 20th, 1994, and this is in the middle of his first year when a lot of pressure all eyes on him championship team in his lap on his shoulders I should say January 20th 1994 in the middle of this season uh it's about uh what is it 1 30 in the morning uh here a patrol officer noticed an illegally parked car here in Chicago and uh Pippin here comes out of pj clark's restaurant and told the officer that it was his car it's a it's a black 94 four-door range rover with the license plate says s pippin da pip da pip so the pip um he said that his car was in a locked position and it could not be moved i don't know how that would work exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I can move it. You can move your car, right? Is there a boot on it? Yeah. It's smoked. I've got, you know, it's a $40,000 option. I don't know if the parking brake was stuck because that's what it seems like because it says the officer entered the car trying to free the wheel from the locked position. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I was looking at something. I don't know what it was. But the cop noticed what appeared to be a weapon between the front seat and the console. Fucking idiot. They pull out a fully loaded 380 handgun holding seven rounds there. So not terrific. Not supposed to have in Chicago there. So they arrest him and they bring him to the district.
Starting point is 01:09:05 He's charged with unlawful use of a weapon. It's a misdemeanor. He was registered to own the gun, but they can't carry the weapon. He's not registered to carry this weapon. There, he posts a $100 cash bond at 2.20 in the morning and is released here. He'll also have to pay a $500 impoundment charge, $115 tow charge as well, because his car was taken to the city auto
Starting point is 01:09:30 impound where the wheel was just fine when you put it up on a flatbed and drag it. It'll go. So, yeah, that night he scored 15 points and he went over the bullets and got arrested. So, yeah, that's what happens there. Now, the NRA
Starting point is 01:09:44 takes this, the National Rifle Association, if you're not from America, who is a highly political group. If you're a gun owner, you know this because they try to say like, oh, we represent all gun owners. No, you don't. They don't at all. You represent about 3% of gun owners and they're the crazy ones. So, they're not like, we think people should go out and shoot guns with their kids or hunt
Starting point is 01:10:09 for food or things like that. They're like, we think. Now, hear me out now. I think just because, let's say you had a rough upbringing, right? Let's say you had a rough upbringing and you shot say 27 people in a walmart right let's just say that happened now you go to prison you do your time you come out why shouldn't you be allowed an assault rifle like everybody else says it in the goddamn constitution yeah that's that's the type of obviously that's a hypothetical but that's the type of insanity the nra does and that
Starting point is 01:10:43 is not political if you say it is oh god i will call you so many fucking names on twitter and tell you to fuck your mother no shut up it's political i don't hear benefit hugely financially it's just a business organization especially to try to yeah national tragedy yeah because then people go buy guns and register to be nra members and that's how our membership goes up their whole whole lobby is, yeah, give money to people, give money to politicians to get rid of all gun laws as many as possible so they can sell. It's not because of freedom or because of the Constitution. It's so they can sell more guns. It's because it makes a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah, that's who runs is a gun. Yeah, a lot of money. Gun companies are involved in that. So just know that. Okay. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience.
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Starting point is 01:12:13 It's an all new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. So he says, though, this is not on the up and up todd vandermeer later on 20 years later by the way when trying to say how great that you know people should be allowed to have guns regular people he brings up scotty pippen as an example 20 years later he says the question you have to go back to are people like scotty pippen the kind of people we want to be putting in jail for three years?
Starting point is 01:12:46 And it's the first-time offender issue that they still haven't got their heads wrapped around. So he brings up that, what if they put Scotty Pippen in three years, in jail for three years? If he breaks a law, then, yeah, put him in jail for three years. Yeah, we'll talk about it. That charge ends up getting dismissed. The gun charge, because they end up calling it an illegal search because he wasn't in there searching the vehicle officially he just saw it but it was in plain sight so loophole that's when you have a good lawyer shit happens like that if you got caught with that that would be i'm gonna go to jail you're going to jail for three years or
Starting point is 01:13:16 whatever the fucking fine fine or something yeah so uh this 93 94 season they do finish 55 and 27 so he holds it together. First round, they sweep to Cavs in the playoffs and then lose to the Knicks in seven games that year. That was the year the Knicks lost to the Rockets because John Starks wouldn't stop shooting fucking three-pointers, you little shitbag. But don't worry, you guys lost to the best team in the NBA that year. Pippen's also MVP of the All-Star Game this year. Good for him. What he does also is he starts a big rumor about a trade that he's being traded.
Starting point is 01:13:53 He later on admitted that he started the rumor. Really? That he's being traded, because he wanted a trade at this point. He was pissed. He wanted to go to the West Coast. He was basically saying any West Coast team or Western conference, He was basically saying any West Coast team or Western conference, he said that he fabricated a big deal that he was going to go to the Suns for Dan Marley and Wesley Person and a couple people like that.
Starting point is 01:14:12 He did this. He did this because everybody knew that Jerry Krause, the GM, really liked Dan Marley. So that was believable. And so, yeah, he did the whole thing, though, just to be a – he wanted out, basically, there. So this series against the Knicks, I don't know if you guys – this is the thing that kind of hurt his reputation. In game three, Pippen refused to come into the game for the last 1.8 seconds. He was mad that the play that got drawn up wasn't a shot for him, so he said, I'm not going in. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And he sat there, and the last shot ended up going to kukok uh but he fucking sat out with his arms crossed pissed off about it which really just hurt his it was the opposite of what people thought of him as like an unselfish player and he's like it's not my shot no i'm not going in my team this is some little league shit like you don't do that in the conference finals. That's stupid. But he did it, and it hurt his rep a little bit. But he does make $3,075,000 that year, so good for him. 1994, he has twin daughters with a model girlfriend of his, Sonia Roby is her name.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Twin daughters, Taylor and Tyler. Problem is, this is sad, nine days after they're born, Tyler dies. Little Tyler dies. Yeah, little twin girls and one of them dies, which is horribly sad. I can't imagine. That is fucking yeah, like it's
Starting point is 01:15:40 crazy sad. That's like incalculably sad. Taylor would later go on to play volleyball at Southern Illinois University, the same place where the director of Stevie went. No kidding. Absolutely. The whole Stevie. He's got a Southern Illinois hat on.
Starting point is 01:15:53 That's where he went. 94-95. So she went to school near Stevie. Think about that. Around the time. What's going on? 94-95, this team. They finished 47-35
Starting point is 01:16:06 that year. 3-1, they beat the Hornets in the first round. That was the Larry Johnson, Alonzo Horning, Hornets, Hornets,
Starting point is 01:16:14 Hornets, there. They lose to the Magic that year. That was after Horace Grant left. Horace Grant had an amazing series
Starting point is 01:16:22 for the Magic. They had Penny and Shaq and that was supposed to be the Magic's big anointing. And they got crushed by the fucking, by the Sonics, I believe. Or not the Sonics, the Rockets that year. Because they were rough. Scotty leads the NBA in steals this year. Really?
Starting point is 01:16:39 So he's a great defender. He's such a great defender. I didn't know he led the league. Fuck yeah. He's an all-star that year two million two hundred twenty five thousand dollars he makes he's doing great and this is really when no pip no tip and pippin is really becoming into the kicking and people from chicago know that really like i told you know my wife sarah she's her and her family are from chicago
Starting point is 01:17:01 and said we're doing scotty pippin and uh. And she was on the phone with her dad and she said, oh, James is doing Scottie Pippen this week for Crime and Sports. And she said, yeah, I remember no tipping Pippen. And he goes, oh, man, I haven't heard that in so long. Wow, that's hilarious. I haven't heard that nickname in a long time. Everybody knows it. Everyone knew it.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Charles Barkley says about Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan, for that matter, quote, there's nobody cheaper than Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan, for that matter, quote, there's nobody cheaper than Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. Oh, yeah. Jordan is cheap. I always give homeless people money and he will always slap my hand and tell me if they can ask you for spare change, they can say, welcome to McDonald's. Can I help you, please? Which you're Michael Jordan, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Michael Jordan is hawking McDonald's in the time when he's lecturing somebody. Yeah. jordan dude michael jordan is hawking mcdonald's in the time when he's lecturing somebody yeah he's like by the way i like your shoes but i'd like to put you in a pair of these are you thirsty because i have some gatorade and how are you underwear fitting you my hands i think will do better wow yeah he even how cheap is that go work at mcdonald's because i sell for them dude that's that is disgusting that's horrible like he would hate me yeah because i'm all i'm fucking i'm always giving homeless people money and he would fucking hate me i will give a homeless man i don't care granted if it it depends but there are factors that play there are factors but if like if i see the same guy on the same
Starting point is 01:18:21 off ramp of the same freeway for six months with a sign that says stranded. No, you're not, motherfucker. If you're over 50, I'm giving you money. Yeah. Because you don't belong out there. That's one thing. But also, level with me. What happened?
Starting point is 01:18:34 What happened? How bad was it? Tell me a story. Earn five bucks. You want to be even more honest? Yeah. You want me to be even more honest? I don't even know how this will be interpreted.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I will give black people money every fucking time. I won't give white homeless people shit unless they're like 60 years old why is that i'm just i'm like i'm not saying it's right or wrong i might be it might be some considered some form of racism it might be but i'll but i will not i'll give you a verification of reason for that justification for that to be accurate if you ask a white guy his story unequivocally he will say he lost his job and can't get one you ask a black guy he'll be like i don't know i like drugs that's what maybe they're much more i don't know i'm not asking any questions so for me i'm just like i don't know i just figure well first of all we live in arizona so i'm like yo it's fucking hot i would hate to be black in the
Starting point is 01:19:24 sun imagine it so right away please go get something that's cool cool first go get something I don't know. I just figure, well, first of all, we live in Arizona. So I'm like, yo, it's fucking hot. I would hate to be black in the sun. I couldn't imagine it. So right away, please go get something that's cool first. Go get something. Go hide somewhere. But second, I don't know what it is. I guess that's sort of racist in a weird way. But I won't.
Starting point is 01:19:38 It's funny. I'm like, fuck you. I can do it. You should be able to. I don't know what it is. No, it's just a matter of like. You know what? That's a great point, too. I don't know what it should be able to i don't know what it is no it's just a matter of like you know what that's a great point i don't know what it's i'm not black so it's like i feel like there's a certain and people are gonna be like oh yeah everybody has equal everybody has
Starting point is 01:19:53 opportunities and all that but it's just something in my head where i'm like i feel like you've had it harder i don't know probably true i feel like you've had less opportunities i'm gonna give you a dollar instead of him if they're over 30 that's a true fact yeah people act like oh don't give it to them if you if they can say that they can ask for it's three dollars what are you what are you requiring out of this person for three dollars that they have to fucking prove to you yeah it's three fucking dollars shut up you're not offering them a fucking trust fund that'd be one thing but christ almighty i do like to hear a story though from a homeless man sometimes i'm just like i'll listen if they don't like tell me a story how to happen and then they'll start and i'll be like ah that's enough here's 10 bucks yeah that's i'm sad already i'm already sad here
Starting point is 01:20:32 you go out of here st louis that guy he was about 75 that old homeless guy that came up yeah yeah and i was like yeah i gave him 40 or something i was like here just take because i was what we or something. I was like, here, just take it. It was what we were going to tip the staff. And they were such fucking assholes to him. I told them to go fuck themselves. You're lucky we did the show. Those people, and we're good tippers. That was bullshit.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Rather give it to this guy. He was so excited. What did he say, Jimmy? Do you remember? I don't remember. He said, this is like six meals at McDonald's. Oh, God, yes. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:21:02 He goes, this is like six meals at McDonaldcdonald's man they're like dude don't say don't piss that away at mcdonald's thank you and go get drunk yeah but he was like for real wanted mcdonald's yeah he goes this is like six meals at mcdonald's his eyes were like yes i've seen so many of them cry too because like yeah there was a lady at our show in north carolina where a woman asked for money she gave her a hundred dollar bill wow that's nice and the woman like started hugging her and shit and i was like ah that hug is how much can i give you where you're happy but you won't touch me where's the where's the where's the fine line because if you give too much the motherfuckers will hug you and you're like hey listen i didn't ask for that i want you to be great but i also
Starting point is 01:21:42 don't want tb so can we fucking not hug, please? I'd like you to eat for a while, maybe shower and feel good about yourself. That'd be great. Not at the expense of my health. That's right. That's how this coronavirus started. Somebody gave a hug. They just were like.
Starting point is 01:21:58 So they also asked Barkley about tipping. Yeah. And Barkley says, quote, I think it's important when you're successful. The waiter, the waitress, the blackjack dealers, they work extremely hard and they don't get a great salary. about tipping yeah and barkley says quote i think it's important when you're successful the waiter the waitress the blackjack dealers they work extremely hard and they don't get a great salary couldn't agree more yeah the more successful you are the more you should tip again i fucking agree i truly believe that i never went overboard i've tipped 25 000 before i won about 700 000 at blackjack you have to tip so you 700,000 through the blackjack dealer,
Starting point is 01:22:26 25 grand as a tip for fucking, which is amazing. Can you imagine being that dealer for a night? If you work the high roller tables, that happens. If someone wins a lot, they throw you a piece. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:22:37 That's how you, that's if they're, if they're a Vegas regular, that's how you do it. That way everyone knows it. So cool. I probably should have tipped more to be honest with you is what he said about that probably should have gave 10 you know he said quote i think
Starting point is 01:22:50 that's why woods and jordan are rich they don't tip that's their secret to being rich they don't tip cheap fucks that's disgusting it's it is disgusting scotty at this point spends a lot of spends his summers in arkansas a lot he runs a basketball camp at Conway near the university there of Central Arkansas. They asked him what he'd like to do after he retires, and he said, just relax. Maybe five years, sit around, go back home and hang around. Just wants to do that. When he signed his first contract, he wanted to buy his mother a new home, and she refused to move. She wouldn't move out of their
Starting point is 01:23:25 house she said i have a house i don't need a house well at least let me fix it nope so there's no way that place is nice so what he did was he bought most of the land around their house and had a bunch of ditches covered up and landscaped the area and built several houses for family members there you go and created a neighborhood park park. He built a subdivision. He called it Scotty Town, Arkansas. Yeah. He basically made a subdivision for his family in rural Arkansas. One of his agents here said, quote,
Starting point is 01:23:55 when you go down there in the summer, it's almost like a southern picnic every day. There's kids all over playing ball and barbecuing. He kind of redid the whole area, and he feels comfortable there. He said he trusts the people there. They don't want anything from him, and he likes the pace of it, which makes sense. I bet that's true.
Starting point is 01:24:13 It feels great. He does want more money, though. This is when he's starting to feel these contracts. And we'll talk about the difference in salaries here. He says, quote, I never complained about my salary, but they always said when Michael was here the best player would be paid the most. That's what they told him. Like, hey, you're not going to get
Starting point is 01:24:30 what Mike gets. He's better than you. That didn't happen when he left. Tony being here never bothered me, Tony Kukos. I just always was speaking out about the situation. You're not going to tell me that Phil Jackson is going to let assistant coach Jimmy Rogers come in here and make more money than he does.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Jerry Krause is in love with Tony and has always been praising him like he's Magic Johnson, the greatest year or the greatest European player. Then he's going to go around saying that I told him to sign Ron Harper. I told them to resign Horace. Things happen in life. I always feel so you can see now so you can see how to handle them. I think people in Chicago like me and they understand me, why I wouldn't take the ball in the playoffs, my feelings about Kraus. I'm sure they can understand why I wanted out of there.
Starting point is 01:25:12 They wouldn't want to be at a job with people they didn't like if they felt so underpaid. The highest qualified people you have should be paid the most. That's just what's right. Okay, fair. Athletics, absolutely is you're drawing people it's a matter of that uh 1995 he gets engaged uh to yvette de leon is her name um that's not the mother of taisha and tyler or whatever what was the other baby no no we'll talk uh taylor taylor and taylor taylor no those were two different women by the way taylor and tyler
Starting point is 01:25:43 taylor and the and antron right from two different women this is another one here and there's more don't worry uh yeah she was an insurance underwriter who was attending graduate school at northwestern university so she's pretty smart girl yeah there when she met scotty pippen she said she never heard of him at the time stop it she said quote i've heard of i'd heard of michael jordan but i didn't uh but i did have trouble at first with why so many people admired them as celebrities she just didn't know about sports and didn't get it basically and in 1991 that was still not like now where there was they were still big heroes but it was it was kind of a new thing for sports people to be the biggest people in the world. They were on the phone all the time.
Starting point is 01:26:25 They talked for like years, but without really being together. They would. This was from like 91 to 95. They would just talk and talk on the phone and she would move and he would move and they never really got together. She says, quote, I think maybe for a change. He enjoyed doing the pursuing. She says, you you know that's basically that she was after why doesn't this bitch want me why i don't get it it's crazy i'm
Starting point is 01:26:51 scotty i can't hook up with her but she she had her own thing going on they have a daughter in 1995 so they were fucking oh they're fucking yeah man in 1995 they have a daughter named sierra so that's another kid for Scotty. May 21st, 1995, there's a little bit of a rough night here. About 8.15, the police are called to his house here. He is charged with domestic battery after Yvette accuses him of grabbing her and pushing her into a car and hurting her like that. He's charged with that. He's charged with a simple battery as well. He posted a hundred dollar bond on release because she didn't require medical attention
Starting point is 01:27:29 but she still had the cops called and came and drug away after he i've never bounced a woman off a car i've never put my hands on so that's what i mean i've never i've never done that so you can say it's not that big of a deal but i've never done that and i've been and i'm divorced yeah you know what i mean so are you there were plenty of fights where you know it's i'm sure it would have felt great but it's not a matter of something you can actually do she slapped me awake i didn't punch her that night yeah i think that's the first time that i've ever had a certain inkling yeah yeah like i like i should be able to fight back if i'm slapped in the face i don't even realize that it's a woman i don't even know why i start swinging back and i didn't do it like like karen
Starting point is 01:28:11 pointing the gun in henry hill's face hey karen it's all right let's calm down you're doing this punches it hits her off the fuck's wrong with you i gotta have to worry about on the street I got to come home for this. Karen. Sorry. So, yeah, apparently his attorney, though, says it called it a, quote, mundane argument. Interesting. Where he pushed her. His attorney is Sheldon Zenner, added that the case wouldn't even have been noticed if Pippen were in a media figure. It's ridiculous, he says. This is silly.
Starting point is 01:28:43 It was in public, man. Yeah. here uh it's ridiculous he says this is silly public man yeah but he says quote it was a very mundane commonplace silly kind of thing that couples argue about every day they got angry and voices were raised um let's see uh pippin went to the garage to cool off and she tried to talk to him that's when she says that pippin pushed her uh apparently uh scotty says that pip that she threatened to call the police and pippin said go ahead and that's what she did and uh the lawyer also said quote pippin's never done anything like this before he has uh he has ever has he ever argued with his fiancee before yeah i expect so but there's never been an argument that's resulted
Starting point is 01:29:22 in any kind of police interaction okay but you bounced a woman off a car and he doesn't even really deny that. No. He just says it's not a big deal. Go talk to the cops about it. Kind of a big deal. I'm sorry. Like just as a character thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Don't bounce a woman off a car. You're probably much bigger than her. Very much bigger than her. Right. Something tells me that Scotty wasn't like, I like a bigger woman. Right. You get like a three 50. Like I doubt it.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Something I can't bounce. Yeah. He tells me he likes tiny, skinny women. Models, James. Yeah. Who just had children, by the way. So May 24th, I said. I got between the two of them.
Starting point is 01:29:58 1995. Scotty is in court for paternity here. Scotty's been ordered to pay $10,000 to a former girlfriend over this. This is Sonia Roby over the one-year-old, at that point, Taylor. DNA test as Scotty was paying money and said he was the father, and then when they broke up, decided he wasn't the father anymore. DNA test showed 99.9% probability that he is the father there. And the forehead on Taylor. Yeah. Come on. Look at the father there and uh head on taylor yeah come on look at look
Starting point is 01:30:28 at the easter island skull wild nose jesus christ the uh pippin she named the kid pippin as the last name and uh they they asked they said why since scotty hasn't admitted paternity and uh the lawyer her lawyer said quote you can name your child anything you want so okay great point she's asking payments of eleven thousand five hundred dollars a month from him for one kid it's a little steep uh she said that uh the daughter deserves a lifestyle equal to that of his current daughter with his fiancee so 11,500 a month jesus that's 1995 oh my god that's a lot uh 95 here also december 7th 1995 he goes to court for this again uh this one he is uh jesus christ he fuck okay he's gonna get me it's uh it's five,000 a month here in child support. This is to represent the Sierra child with the Yvette woman that broke up with him
Starting point is 01:31:33 after he bounced her off a car. And she wants five grand a month. She wants five grand in child support. He initially disputed he was the father of the twins born there, and then it ended up that he is the twins. So he admitted to being the father of the twins uh born there and then you know it ended up that he is the twins so uh he admitted to being the father in a court deposition and uh blood test also showed he was the father the the his attorney says quote scotty has admitted that he is the
Starting point is 01:31:57 father and it's just a matter of working out the details they split up like i said after the domestic charges which by the way ended up being dropped dropped in July after DeLeon, the woman, refused to testify against him. So they ended up dropping him. She's trying to get child support. She's trying to get some amicable child support out of him. She's like, I didn't press charges. You're doing this shit, God damn it, making me take you to court. Yeah, she brought it up.
Starting point is 01:32:21 So now he's got two paternities there. And also he has the other kid from Antron, from Karen. Oh, boy. Provision of the settlement between Roby and Pippin requires that its provisions remain confidential there. However, it includes a requirement that Pippin pay monthly child support to her until the child's 18 and deposit money in a trust fund on the child's behalf. So, yes. You're talking about, I mean mean over 18 years that's like two million oh yeah yeah kids don't cost that much watch your dick there what the fuck all right 95 96 this is the 72 and 10 season the bulls go that's insane uh they sweep the heat they beat the shit out of the Knicks. They beat the magic. They sweep them.
Starting point is 01:33:05 All this for the Sonics to be the sacrificial lambs there. That was a fun Sonics team, too. You had your Kemp and Schrempf and Peyton. That was a fun one. He's an all-star that year, Scottie Pippen, and at the ceremony for this, I remember
Starting point is 01:33:21 this very clearly, he was selected as one of the 50 greatest players in nba history really by the nba yeah they did their big top 50 all-time ceremony and he is in there that's in 95 he's in the top 50 i would say that's a stretch today it's tough yeah it's pretty it's a stretch then maybe he's like 46 yeah oh he's definitely not in the top 10 or anything he's not in there but he's he's damn good he's certainly recognizable he's definitely not in the top 10 or anything. He's not in there, but he's damn good. He's certainly recognizable. He made $2,925,000 that year. He hasn't even made $15 million.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Nope. He said, I really like Chicago. I couldn't have gone to a big city like New York, but in the suburbs, it's small, like in Chicago. I can go fix my car, get a sandwich at a place like the Hoagie Hut, quiet places where no one expects me to be. I've always wanted to be successful, something special. So I have to say this is the greatest thing that happened to me. I sometimes feel bad about it when you do get special privileges. Like when I call a restaurant, even if it's crowded, I get right in. It's just that you do get people always coming up to you. So I learned when I'm in a bad mood, I just stay home. I feel mostly that people have welcomed me in Chicago and I can just get on my boat in the summer, stop at Navy
Starting point is 01:34:30 Pier for lunch, sit around and relax with my brothers, people who don't perceive me as a basketball player. Yet I know that's how I'll be known. I feel I'm a complete player and that's what I'm most proud of. But right now I still feel like my future's on the bubble of being where I'm going to be, with what team, doing what. but no matter what i can deal with it that's the way it's always been for me just deal with it and move on what a statement jesus christ i'll just cruise around you know stop it stop in on my boat have a hoagie hut do my thing the fuck are you talking about jesus christ what a lifestyle so he settles in july 96 for sierra's child support settles that uh deal his lawyer says uh uh he's taking care of the child he loves the
Starting point is 01:35:14 child he visits with the child on a regular basis he's a good father they're like scotty it's worth more to you to pay and not look like a dick for endorsements basically uh he said even that pippin and daily own aren't engaged anymore but they're very amicable now as well. She withdrew the domestic battery charge. Everything's fine. Everybody's happy here. Now, 1996, he's on the Dream Team again. This is Dream Team 2, which is also a pretty goddamn.
Starting point is 01:35:40 This gets overshadowed. But when you hear this lineup, you go, ooh, man. It's good. You add Michael Jordan to that, that's pretty similar. Barkley, Penny Hardaway, who's nasty, Grant Hill, Carl Malone, Reggie Miller, Shaq, Olajuwon, Gary Payton, Scotty Pippen, Mitch Richmond, David Robinson, John Stockton. That's 96? That's 96. Where did that one go?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Gold. Where at, though? Atlanta. Atlanta, that's right. Yeah, it's 96? That's 96. Where did that one go? Gold. Where at, though? Atlanta. Atlanta, that's right. Richard Jewell Olympics. This is an amazing team. I mean, it doesn't have the killers like your Magic and your Bird and your Jordan, who are just, you know, straight
Starting point is 01:36:18 murderers out there. Pretty fucking good. Pretty fucking good, though. And they crush and win a gold medal, obviously. Scotty averages 11 a game. Also appears in ER that year. Really? In season good though and they crush and win a gold medal obviously scotty averages 11 a game also appears in er that year really in season two uh it's the episodes called baby shower i don't know i think he appeared as himself because er set in chicago oh so maybe that would be george clooney kill him on accident doing surgery i think he was a pediatrician in that show okay yeah that's all i remember about it big-headed i don't remember Big-headed weird baby. I can't save your baby, Scotty.
Starting point is 01:36:46 I'm sorry. Did George Clooney do a paternity test on him? I think he did. Let me swab your cheek there, champ. So, 96-97. And this, by the way, last year and this year, Jordan's back. So that's why they're winning 72 games this year. 69-13.
Starting point is 01:37:00 They beat the Bullets, Hawks, and Heat in the playoffs and go on. This was a good series too against the Jazz in six games it's a pretty good series because you have Stockton and Malone and then Jordan and Pippen those were like you kind of always wanted them to meet and see what would happen Stockton Malone uh Byron Russell yeah yeah he was the one that Jordan pushed off of and uh this was a real good team Jordan was a dirty ass a dirty-ass player, too. Everybody was, so that's fine. But he was just pretending he wasn't. Hornacek was there. Yeah, yeah, Hornacek was there.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Antoine Carr was their center. Really? I remember. Oh, they had Ostertag. Big Country was there, yeah. No, no, no, that's Bryant Reeves. Oh, that's, yeah, you're right. Ostertag's the other flat-topped white guy who can't play.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Interchangeable, that's true. Interchangeable. He's an All-Star that year again. Makes $2,250,000. Definitely underpaid. Yeah. And we're going to get into that in a second here uh this is the season where everybody's talking about this is going to be the last year of chicago the next year 97 98 going to be the last year and uh this is the year pippen had purposely delayed off-season surgery so he couldn't so his summer wouldn't be fucked up by rehab. He literally said, I'm not letting it fuck up my summer.
Starting point is 01:38:08 It was his knee, right? Yeah. So it pushed it, but it also made it so he couldn't play in the beginning of the season. Asshole. Yeah, so that's the type of stuff where Pippen and I got a bad reputation. And apparently it stirred an effort by Jerry Krause, the GM, to trade Scotty Pippen, who then said
Starting point is 01:38:24 he wanted to be traded as well. So you want to trade me? I want to trade you. You can't trade me. You can trade you all. Right. Trade this whole team. Did he go to Portland?
Starting point is 01:38:34 We'll talk here. He gets married that year to Larsa Yunan, and Larsa ends up being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and being really good friends with Kim Kardashian. Really? She's known for that. Now, interesting here. He doesn't get any contract renegotiation, but he ends up coming back anyway for 97-98, where they beat the Nets, the Hornets, and the Pacers in the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:39:00 and then beat the Jazz 4-2 in the finals. Again, same series pretty much. Makes $2,775,000. Not bad. Still underpaid. $97,098. That's ridiculous. That's the end of your life, too.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Yeah. I mean. Well, here's the thing. Here is the salaries of other people that year. Michael Jordan's salary is number one in the league. $33,140,000. That could have been made 2.7 yeah oh jesus i mean he's better than him but he's not 15 times better than him it's like that's silly you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 01:39:33 without him is it's not the same it's right yeah patrick ewing is number two with 20 million 500 000 so this isn't guys making six million and he's making 2 million. Guys are making tens of millions of dollars and he is making under 3. The disparity between 1 and 2 is 10 million dollars? Oh, Horace Grant, who went to Orlando, 14,285,714 dollars. That's number
Starting point is 01:39:57 3 in the league? Number 3 in the league. Shaq is 4, because that's when Shaq went and signed with the Lakers for big money, because he was pissed that Ho Grant made more money than him. $12,857,000. David Robinson, $12,397,000. Alonzo Mourning, $11,254,000. Jawan Howard, $11,250,000.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Get the fuck out of here. Jawan Howard. Wow. Hakeem Olajuwon, $11,000,000. Gary Payton, $10,500,000. Dikembe Mutombo, $9,500,000. Reggie Miller, $9,000,000. Chris Webber, $9,000,000. Sean Kemp, $8, $11 million. Gary Payton, $10.5 million. Dikembe Mutombo, $9.5 million. Reggie Miller, $9 million. Chris Weber, $9 million.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Sean Kemp, $8.6 million. Larry Johnson, $8.4 million. Derek Coleman, $8 million. Oh, boy. Kevin Johnson, $8 million. And he was fucking not great anymore. Is that the highest paid Suns player? Probably at the time.
Starting point is 01:40:40 $8 million? Latrell Sprewell, $7.7 million. Penny Hardaway, $7.5 million. Eldon Campbell, $7 million. hardaway seven and a half eldon campbell seven million dollars so i mean this we're gonna get into guys that he is way but danny manning 6.8 alan houston six million dollars robert ory six million dollars a fucking six man jesus christ sean bradley grant hill otis thorpe glenn robinson clyde Drexler, Steve Smith, Sean Elliott, Dale Davis, Jason Kidd, Carl Malone, John Starks, A.C. Green, Christian fucking Leitner.
Starting point is 01:41:13 A.C. Green is making more money than Scotty Phevin. Christian Leitner makes $5 million. Kenny Anderson, John Stockton. How about that? Christian Leitner, and it's not even close. Not even close. John Stockton only made $5 million. Like I said, he was the most underpaid.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Brian Grant, Vlade Divac, Tim Hardaway, Glenn Rice, Harvey Grant, Jim Jackson, Charles Smith, Tony Kukoc, Ron Harper. Ron fucking Harper's making more than him. He can't even say what he makes. John Hot Rod Williams makes more than him. Unbelievable. Antonio Davis, Dennis Robbins, Jamal Mashburn, Kendall Gill, Sherman Douglas, Billy Owens, Isaiah Ryder, Jeff Hornacek is making more than him, Tyrone Hill, Mark Price, Vin Baker, Bison Dele, Bryant Stith, Ronnie Cycli, Nick Anderson, Rick Smiths, Danny Ferry, Donyell
Starting point is 01:41:57 Marshall, PJ Brown, Walt Williams, Stanley Roberts, Brian Shaw, Lionel Cummings, Del Curry, Steph's dad, Chris fucking Gatling, Lafonso Ellis, Olden Polonies, Calbert Chaney, Jim McElvain. Jim McElvain. Sounds like a NASCAR driver. He looks like a big, tall, white goof. Yeah. Derek McKee, fucking Stoigo, I can't remember how to pronounce that guy's name. Stojankovic?
Starting point is 01:42:25 No, no. Stojankovic? No, it's not that guy. It's Varenkovic or some shit. Bobby Hurley. Bobby Hurley. Yeah, white chocolate. No, that's Jason Williams.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Bobby Hurley was barely put together again from a fucking horrible car accident. The two of them were interchangeable. Yeah, except Jason Williams turned out to be better because Bobby Hurley got in a horrible car accident. Bobby Hurley's a coach now. Yeah. Sharon Wright, Nate McMillan, Wes Pearson, Dee Brown, Anthony Mason, Rod Strickland, Dana Barrow, Sam Perkins, Lloyd Vaught,
Starting point is 01:42:56 Detlef Schrempf, fucking Ken Norman, Mahmoud Abdul-Raouf, Robert Pack, Mark Jackson, Luke Longley. Robert Pack. Robert Pack, Luke Longley. Robert Pack. Robert Pack. Made more money. Luke Longley, Joe Smith, Allen Iverson, Hersey Hawkins, Chris fucking Childs. They got him from Canada.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Chris Morris, Avery Johnson, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mills, Joe Dumar, Mookie Blaylock. That's three million. And then we get into, yeah, even less here. Chris Mullen,is scott lamon murray bobby phill's antonio mcdice brian brian russell of the jazz charles oakley poo richardson there he is poo goddamn poo dan marley stacy augman clarence weatherspoon marcus gamby arman gilliam michael williams scotty pippen wow there. There. And then Andrew Lang, Keith Van Horn right after him. How many of those guys have money problems today, too?
Starting point is 01:43:48 Most. Oh, yeah. Unbelievable. That's crazy, though. I didn't get too long on the list, but you had to see how many people. What is he, number 113? He is 122. Wow.
Starting point is 01:43:58 The 122nd best player. Highest player. Highest paid player, and he's 50 greatest of all time in the same fucking time period. So how does that work's 50 greatest of all time right in the same fucking time period so how does that work greatest of all time there's 121 people the higher paid i'm not even the 120th highest paid of right now how can i be 50 by his best of all time so uh yeah wow you can imagine he wants out mind-blowing my yeah 98 99 is that year when the Bulls just dismantled. They gave everything away and said, fuck it, it's over. It's going. So Jordan was gone.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Rodman left. This year, they keep pipping for half the season, though. And then in January, January 22nd, 99, he's traded to the Houston Rockets for Roy Rogers and a burger to be named later. Is that true? It's a guy named Roy Rogers. It's a foreword. Roy Rogers and Shirley Temple. And named later. Is that true? It's a guy named Roy Rogers. It's a foreword. Roy Rogers and Shirley Temple. And Shirley Temple.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Roy Rogers and Gene Autry. They're up for it. Oh, boy, oh, boy. Yeah, they trade him for a second round. Roy Rogers and a second round draft pick, which turned out to be Jake Voskal. So he signs a five-year, $67.2 million contract with the Rockets. He played for Houston.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Oh, yeah. He played for years for Houston. Well, I don't even see that in my head. Not for years, actually. It was a quick little thing. Let's talk about it. You didn't know that Roy Rogers for a boy is called a Shirley Temple for a boy? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:45:18 It's the same thing. I was going with the restaurant, the hamburger place. I knew. I was just trying to make a difference, though. Yeah, yeah. And then you were like, yeah, Roy Rogers and and and well then we went into the act and i was like i hope he knows what i was doing but then i'm thinking of tv cowboys too and we went off into another thing so it worked both ways should have been a cowboy jane what are you gonna do
Starting point is 01:45:36 so 98 99 rockets are 31 and 19 uh that's the strike shortened season as well there so uh uh yeah the they lose in the first round to the lakers in the playoffs scotty though he makes 11 mil so he's like i'm cool as fuck to play 50 games as much as i've made in five years so great i'm in uh april 22nd 1999 uh it's about 1 30 in the morning. Yeah. And he apparently runs a red light, and he is stopped. And they have to call in the DWI task force for him because they suspect that he's drunk. He refuses to take a breathalyzer test there. And then very, very badly flunks a field sobriety test afterwards.
Starting point is 01:46:22 And he's taken into custody and booked on suspicion of dui and uh released the next day the uh they said he was cooperative besides refusing the breathalyzer too drunk to not be he said no thank you yeah and they went no no he said no thank you i said really thank you no um yeah he said uh the the rocket spokesperson person their silver haired middle-aged white man tim Tim Frank, he said, I don't have any kind of information about any trouble at all. All I can tell you is that he was arrested. I've not seen any of the documentation on this, so I prefer not to comment.
Starting point is 01:46:55 He said, I think we need to get all the facts before we start looking at team policy. Sure. Barkley at the time said, quote, because he was on this Rockets team. He was. They had Scotty, Barkley, and Ola he was on this rockets team he was they had scotty barkley and elijah on on this team that's awesome all like the end of their careers but still to go just to go see that would be like oh let's go see three hall of famers on the same team and he says scotty is my teammate and i'm behind him 100 i'm sure he wasn't as shit-faced as i am
Starting point is 01:47:19 when i drive most of the time so it's fine at least there wasn't a hooker blowing him he didn't say that he said i'm not i am i'm behind him 100 this is not armageddon it happened scotty pippen probably wasn't the only person stopped last night scotty is a role model if all the kids grew up to be like scotty the world would be a better place okay change his tune now huh fuck that yeah he said scotty is a role model i'm not but he is listen to him is what he says it's not armageddon right jesus christ scotty says quote i was not intoxicated when arrested after the game last night and i'm confident the evidence will support me in the end he says uh no further comment you can ask my lawyer if you need anything else um coach tom janovich said i'm hoping it wouldn't be a distraction
Starting point is 01:47:59 we're trying to make it we're not trying to make any assumptions it would be unfair to comment when nothing's been established i'm sort of used to uh unexpected assumptions. It would be unfair to comment when nothing's been established. I'm sort of used to unexpected things happening. You just try not to lose your composure. Speaking of unexpected things, Mazda, he is doing ads for Houston-area Mazda dealerships. Really? And they pull his ads off the TV once he gets arrested until it's resolved. As far as the great car to drive when you're drunk.
Starting point is 01:48:25 It's got a good feature. You know, swerve away from people and you won't hit them. Because you're not going to see them with one eye closed. You know, when you leave the turn signal on too long, this will turn. This one makes noise until you turn it off. So Scott, he's pissed. It's like everybody's judging me now. I'm sitting, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Like, I come here here now i'm the center point what the fuck man could have been just jordan gambled on some golf and that was a big story and then everybody left me alone now this shit's happening this is bullshit i'm not happy about it he literally is like i'm not i'm gonna fucking i'm not going outside you people can kiss my ass i'm not gonna go out remember he said he likes to go to quiet places and shit he's beyond that now so he's like, fuck it. I'm going to stay home. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:49:07 I'll make my house look nice. That's all I give a shit about now. I'm going to be comfortable in my own home. He does. He's sitting there. He's indoors. He stays indoors. He wants to stay out of trouble.
Starting point is 01:49:18 He's weird, too, because he likes to spend money. And so he decides he's going to completely redo his home. And he hires someone to help him out. And it's Dexter Manley. Of course it is. Interior decorator from New York City. And so he decides he's going to completely redo his home and he hires someone to help him out. And it's Dexter Manley. Of course it is. Interior decorator from New York City. And he says.
Starting point is 01:49:40 How is it you've come to arrive here? Seriously. Oh, my God. You listen. Listen, I've been watching you. I've been watching you. You came from like, you're all like dirty as a child and like a little dirt on your face. I'm like, it's so cute. You know, I used to say, I like this story. I like it a lot. Then what
Starting point is 01:49:53 are you doing? What are you doing? You got guns? You don't need a gun. You're Scotty Pippen. You're a giant person. What do you need a gun for? You're bouncing women off of cars. What is this? It's white trash, Scotty. I'm not going to off of cars. What is this? This is it's white trash, Scotty. I'm not going to lie to you. This this is white trash behavior.
Starting point is 01:50:09 It's white trash and I don't appreciate it. No, no, you're not coming in. You know, just tell him I'm interested. He's six foot eight. He could have more growing left in him. He could be seven foot four by the time he's done. He's from Arkansas. He could be a hillbilly.
Starting point is 01:50:25 It's perfect. Just ask him to try on these overalls. Vince, I'm not. I'm not. He's not putting them on, Vince. He has. He's said no. He's not interested.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Just ask him to take his shirt off and stand in front of the window. I don't have to come in. Vince, no. I'm done. I'm sorry, Scotty. You're white trash. I'm sorry about this. You know what? i'll give you my quote and i'll come back another time sorry very poof and in a poof of purple glitter and feathered boas he's gone
Starting point is 01:50:53 and scotty is very very confused and he's like is he gonna do my shit or what i could use it so october 2nd 1999 the rockets don't like what this has given his reputation in houston they trade him to the trailblazers for stacy augman listen to this scotty pippen from the rockets goes for stacy augman kelvin cato ed gray carlos rogers brian shaw and walt williams half a team half a team six players yeah that's insane A bunch of salary cap clearances, basically. 1999-2000 with the Blazers. 59-23. That team finishes.
Starting point is 01:51:32 They do well, though. They beat the Wolves in the playoffs. They beat the Jazz in the playoffs. And then in the Western Conference Finals, they lose in seven games. To who? To the Lakers. That was the Kobe Shaq Lakers. Wow. But I mean, seven games. That was close. That was really close kobe shack lakers wow uh but i mean seven games that was a that was close yeah it was really close cliff robinson's still there and rod strickland
Starting point is 01:51:49 and shit like that i think it was rod strickland who the hell would have been there oh christ on the blazers at that time that was the other transitional only scotty pippen cliff maybe cliff rob no cliff robinson was the sons then yeah yeah he was he was getting arrested here yeah and then shipped out jesus i can't think, but it was a garbage-ass team. It was decent, apparently. I mean, it was decent enough, yeah. They do make, he does make $14,795,642 that year. Laugh to the bank.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Boom, he's going to laugh. 2000, 2001, November 10th, 2000, son is born. What? Scotty Jr. You betcha. He had to do it. It's with the Y, too, so it's definitely Scotty Jr. You betcha. He had to do it. It's with the Y, too, so it's definitely Scotty Jr., which he also spells it I-E the same way. So 2000, 2001 with the Blazers, they're 50-32.
Starting point is 01:52:33 They get swept in the first round by the Lakers in the playoffs, though. Scotty doesn't care because he made $13,750,000 that year. Feeling fine. Yeah. 2001, 2002, Blazers, 49-33. Maurice Cheeks is the head coach there. They again get swept by the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs. But, Scotty, what does he make this year?
Starting point is 01:52:54 $18,083,564. In three years, he has made $50 million. Way more than he made his whole career as a Bull. He is paying child support like a motherfucker man he's and he can yeah he's like the ends are meeting like a motherfucker and they're over johnny cars yeah you got 300 million ends of meeting like a motherfucker so 2002 he has a son again a son is born uh preston after his dad so that's nice nice to get him in first and then his dad i'll name one after me first then you first antron that's important to me yeah then this then
Starting point is 01:53:32 you i get one that never ever happened ever antron antron he never named his daughters after his mom though no ethel's running around no ethel pippen's running around so So 2002-2003 with Portland. They're 50-32. This time they lose in the first round again to the Mavs this time. This is when I walked away, I think. Yeah, after post-strike. I don't see the Blazers being in the playoffs three years in a row without Brad Drexler. I mean, everyone's in the playoffs in the NBA, though. If you're at 500, you're making the playoffs. There's 16 of them.
Starting point is 01:54:02 If you lose in the first round, you're garbage. It's more than making the playoffs. There's 16 of them. If you lose in the first round, you're garbage. That's more than half the league. He makes, though, brace yourself, Jimmy, $19,727,524. He loves Portland. Fuck, he loves Portland. Portland's a chill place, too. To make $20 million a year in Portland? To have $80 million over four years in Portland, Oregon?
Starting point is 01:54:22 That would be fantastic. Oh, Jesus. Everything's so cheap. Sign me up. It's wonderful. in Portland, Oregon? Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus. Everything's so cheap. Sign me up. It's wonderful. Back then, before it blew up. July 20, 2003, his contract is up with Portland, and he signs as a free agent with Chicago Bulls. Really?
Starting point is 01:54:38 Back home. Just to retire? Going back home. Plays the 2003-2004 season there. They go 23-59. Once that was over, the Bulls were w uh they go 23 and 59 once that was over the bulls were wretched for 10 years that's right they were so fucking bad it took till they got rose took derrick rose till they got anything it was bad man they were so bad um yeah not good here no playoffs this is the first time i can remember pippen not making the playoffs in the season i
Starting point is 01:55:02 think this is the first time his whole career poor bastard but he makes four million nine hundred seventeen thousand dollars okay so that's not terrible uh now you know the 2004 2005 season he was still trying to play but uh he's contracted through that year but he is waived by the chicago bulls on november 4th which is probably right before opening day he's waived by the bulls and that's a career for scotty uh which still not too bad he played in 1178 career games which is amazing 16.1 uh points a game uh 6.4 rebounds 5.2 assists damn fine and averages two steals a game in his career pretty good not too shabby. Also.8 blocks. So, damn good. His assists total of 6,135, 5.2 a game. It's pretty good, and it is 23rd all-time among players when he retired. So, not too shabby.
Starting point is 01:55:54 He has 21 triple-doubles in his career. 17 regular season, 4 playoff. Dude can play. That's great. And that's with Jordan fucking hogging all the balls. Jordan is known known and rightfully so he'll say it himself he's the biggest ball hog in the history of basketball if you can get a triple double next to him that's pretty good that's not too goddamn shabby um he uh uh he was
Starting point is 01:56:16 on the uh 10-time nba all-defensive team eight-time all-defensive first-team honors, one shy of the NBA record for that as well. And he made $5,408,700 for doing nothing that year for training camp. So awesome. Total money in his career, $109,957,430. That'll do. That'll do. I think Jordan made about $99,000 in his career. But that's obviously a pittance to the rest of what he made.
Starting point is 01:56:47 He is also, on the Bleacher Report, BleacherReport.com, did a list of the nine most financially irresponsible NBA players ever, and Pippen was number three. Which I don't think is fair. I think they put him up too high. He's not as bad as some of the guys that were on this list. They're probably only doing that just also, too, because he spent a lot of money at the beginning probably he bought he wasn't making a lot well he bought a broken jet he's famous for really he's famous for dumb shit like people investor financial people stealing his money uh buying a broken jet dumb shit like that but in lawsuits he always gets it back so it's not that bad uh so that's what happened there january of 2005 here uh he files a lawsuit
Starting point is 01:57:29 suit against the law firm who recommended his financial advisor we'll talk about this here it's legal malpractice suit against them here he said he lost millions of dollars through questionable investments it's uh he he says they're negligent. He says he was completely faked out by his trusted legal advisors whose conflicts and incompetence have cost Scotty and his family millions of dollars is what the lawsuit says.
Starting point is 01:57:55 The lawsuit doesn't seek specific damages, but the attorney says that it's, quote, to suggest that it would be in the range of $20 million would not be overstating the problem. So he's saying that someone stole $ million dollars from him that seems excessive which happens a lot because that happened to rod too not 20 million but you think you'd notice yeah but if they're investing it for you and you think it's all out there making money and then it turns out that it's he didn't really do what he said he did. Right. You know, like Bernie Madoff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Everybody was getting reports saying what they're getting. And some of them were getting money out. Yeah. I mean, it was all fine because he was taking from new people to give to those people until it literally robbing Peter and until you run out of Peters. Yeah. You got, you know, you're fine with balls. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:41 After a while, there's not enough Peters and too many balls and you're shit out of luck. You're fine with balls. Yeah. After a while, there's not enough Peters and too many balls and you're shit out of luck. So the law firm who is suing that they call the suit, quote, totally meritless. And they said, quote, there is no basis in fact or law for these allegations. And we intend to vigorously defend against them. Apparently, Pippin had just won an $11.8 million judgment against the financial advisor, and he alleged he invested $7 million into real estate adventures with a developer that filed
Starting point is 01:59:11 for bankruptcy protection. This Lund, who's the financial advisor, also failed to disclose his extensive business relationships with the developer of that. So basically, he was doing like insider investing kind of thing with other people's money. Pippin also alleges he lost $1.7 million in a poorly structured deal to invest in a small jet. Basically, which we'll talk about, too. Lund and his company handled $17.5 million of Pippin's money. So he's got some beef there.
Starting point is 01:59:42 2005, he also has another son. Son Justin is born. So now he's got a Justin, too., he also has another son. The son, Justin, is born. So he's got a Justin, too. This is like kid number seven? He's got a lot of kids. Six, I think. This is a lot. December 2005, the Bulls retire his number.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Really? Retire number 33. They play against the Lakers that night. And that night, they have Pippen, Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan, Dennis Rodman, and Horace Grant all there for the ceremony. His number 33, they only have a few. It's Scotty Pippen, 33, Michael Jordan, 23, Bob Love, 10, and Jerry Sloan, number four. That's the only ones they've retired? Only retired numbers there.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Because the Bulls were shit before Michael Jordan. They were a crappy franchise before Jordan. Yeah. That's it. I can see him retiring. Rodman, he was 91. He was only there for a crappy franchise before Jordan. Yeah. That's it. I could see him retiring. Rodman, he was 91. He was only there for a couple years, though, too. Four years or something.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Nobody would give a fuck about that. Nobody's going to ever wear that. No, he only got it because it was weird. Right. Well, because his number is 10, but B.J. Armstrong wore that. Yeah, so nine and one. Plus, it was weird. Yeah, it's bizarre.
Starting point is 02:00:42 He could have been, because he was 73 somewhere else, too. Dallas or something. He was 73, I think. He's weird as shit. He just likes dumb shit. Yeah. It's bizarre. Because he was 73 somewhere else, too. Dallas or something. He was 73, I think. He's weird as shit. He just likes dumb shit. Yeah, he's a dumb. He wants attention. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Hey, who's that idiot wearing 73 with bright fucking green hair? Who the fuck ever wore 73? Must be him. Besides a defensive lineman? Nobody. So, Christ. 2007, Scotty wants to attempt to make an NBA comeback, he says. What? No. What are you an NBA comeback, he says. What?
Starting point is 02:01:06 No. What are you doing? No, just no. Calm down, Scotty. You're 42. It's over. The word retired is attached to you in so many different ways. For a couple of years.
Starting point is 02:01:18 It's over. He said he wants to play for a championship contender and get that seventh ring because he's a six-time champion. He said he spent the winter working out in Fort Lauderd ring because he's a six-time champion he said he spent the winter working out in fort lauderdale and he's ready to go uh duane wade who the heat had won the championship the year before he said that he would love the idea of pippen being on the team he said quote i'm already playing with gary payton and shack two guys i used to play with on video games to add scotty pippen to that mix would be crazy yeah that's a fucking insult though that's yeah that's that's how old they are when i was 12 i played with i was 12
Starting point is 02:01:50 and now i'm dribbling the ball next to him isn't it wild 2007 in a minute grant hill's coming down hey look at this he's all broken down too let's get him in the mix. So 2007, there's a court ruling. Scotty Pippen must pay a bank more than $5 million in a breach of contract lawsuit involving a loan for a jet. This is the jet thing. This is where he lost a bunch of money here. I guess this is upholding a ruling where a judge found that Pippen owed U.S. Bank just over $5 million, which is the principal interest and attorney's fees. Pippin was taking so many charter flights that a pilot convinced him in 2001 that he should just buy his own plane. Why are you doing all this?
Starting point is 02:02:35 Buy your own plane. Pippin and his wife Larsa formed a company called AirPip and borrowed $4.375 million from an aircraft finance company, and U.S. Bank later bought the note and sued the Pippins for the money here. He acknowledged signing a promissory note with a personal guarantee. However, it's never been made clear whether he ever got to even use this jet. It was a Grumman Gulfstream II. That doesn't matter if you use i don't think it matters if you borrowed money for it so the location and condition of
Starting point is 02:03:09 the plane is dependent on who you talk to again i don't know that's what his attorney says uh pippin's suit a chicago law firm like that was the last one he did here so he's got to pay back money to a bank now if i go to a dealership and be like i'm gonna need that car i'm gonna get a loan yeah and then i don't buy it or i don't listen i barely drive the thing it's been in my garage for 10 years i mean i don't have to pay for it right it's fine jesus christ fucking mind scotty stupid man uh january 2008 he does make a professional comeback here not in the nba though he does a tour tour of Scandinavia and plays two games for a top Finnish league team, Torpan Pojat, and a top Swedish league team, Sundsvall. They sound terrible.
Starting point is 02:03:55 He played for Torpan Pojat, Jimmy. Don't you have that jersey, the Torpan Pojat pippin? Yeah. It's pretty hot. Pan, Pojat, Pippen. Yeah. It's pretty hot. In his first game on January 4th, he scored 12 points in Topat's win, or Pojat's win,
Starting point is 02:04:11 over whatever. He registered nine points and nine rebounds in another game there. And in the third game of the tour, he had 21 points, 12 rebounds, six assists, and two steals in 30 minutes. I feel like I could do that, too. Yeah. Those guys? The Sunval Dragons in a win over the Acropole of Rinkaby. It's a Finnish team.
Starting point is 02:04:32 I don't know. Everyone's blonde. Yeah. They're not good. Pass to Sven. I don't think so. They did pay him. The Dragons, the last team, paid him $66,000 for his appearance.
Starting point is 02:04:44 Okay. That's not bad. 2008. I don't know. Is that good? He made the same money as a mid-level manager of a cable company? Yeah, for a yearly salary. Yeah, it seems like they pay him more for the attention.
Starting point is 02:04:58 I don't know. Why would he bother going? Right. Why did you bother for $66,000? He doesn't need $66 need 66 grand it doesn't seem like or maybe he does he's got to pay back five mil maybe it's just that fucking the attention he maybe he wants to play ball maybe he wants to show he can still play he thought maybe that would help uh 2008 he has a daughter another daughter here uh sophia is born here uh 2009 he appears in a
Starting point is 02:05:22 movie uh midgets versus mascots shut the fuck up i don't know what the fuck that is really yeah he's in that movie midgets versus mascots you said that's not a porno no no that's a that's like a i think it's like a dumb comedy like a direct-to-video oh it's dumb midgets versus mask i would say so what year uh 2009 2009 like 89. He's in a movie with the title. A word in the title is midget. Yeah, you could still say midget up until like six years ago. That was an acceptable thing. Scotty Vinton signed on to a movie.
Starting point is 02:05:55 The word midget is. What else has he got going on? He's going to Scandinavia. What the fuck's he going to do? I wonder if they probably paid him more than 66 grand. My God, he wants attention so bad. He really does. Well, he's back in court getting attention in 2010 when a court awards him $2 million
Starting point is 02:06:09 in a lawsuit over the malpractice concerning a jet he purchased. This fucking jet. Jesus Christ. It's a problem. Apparently, he bought it for $4 million in 2002, shortly after it was grounded because of a missed inspection that required over $1 million in engine repairs. Whoa. It's expensive to own a plane.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Jesus Christ. I don't want anything to do with that. I don't want no part of that. It feels like a lot. We've got a mill to fix that. Oh, really? So set it on fire and then call the insurance company, right? What are we doing?
Starting point is 02:06:40 That's the answer, right? Right? Just blow it up? Do you have anybody with a death wish? Maybe fly it into the fucking Atlantic? I don't give a shit. Suicidal? Fuck them. Anybody can get off the ground, but? Right? Just blow it up? Do you have anybody with a death wish? Maybe fly it into the fucking Atlantic? I don't give a shit. Suicidal? Fuck them.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Anybody can get off the ground, but is it still kind of sad? Can we sell it to Al-Qaeda is my question. Plunge this fucking thing into an ocean. That'd be great. So $1 million. His contention was that his attorneys who were handling the purchase of the jet should have known that the inspection hadn't been done at the time of the purchase, but somehow they missed it or they didn't know any better.
Starting point is 02:07:05 He sued, this is Peterson and helped, he sues for $8 million in the case, Pippin's suing, which is the total amount he had to sink into the purchase of the jet. The jury felt that Pippin was somewhat culpable and that he too didn't follow the proceedings of the purchase carefully enough to insure his investment. Yeah, he's a fucking idiot. You have to oversee your shit a little bit. You can't just say, oh, they took everything. Also, you look at a plane and you go, I don't know shit about planes.
Starting point is 02:07:32 No. I'm not going to do this. Yeah. What happens if it breaks? Millions of dollars, Scotty. If the answer is it costs a billion dollars to fix, I don't want a part of it here. So, 2010, he is elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. Really?
Starting point is 02:07:49 He's a Hall of Famer. Obviously, he's a 92-96 Dream Teamer, two gold medals, six championships, defensive. It's hard to argue. He's a fucking Hall of Famer, period. Yep, he returns as well to the Bulls on Julyuly 15th 2010 as a team ambassador they hire him to wear a bull shirt he's right yeah wear a bulls polo while he does things remember when i played yeah remember me how you doing aren't i an ugly son of a bitch 2000 crying little girl stop crying little girl i'm actually a nice guy it's my face
Starting point is 02:08:21 so uh 2010 he uh voices an animated version of himself oh and on the cleveland show really you know the family guy spinoff that was terrible right not a good one uh march 17th 2011 the bulls announced that they would honor pippin with a bronze statue which will be placed inside the home arena the united center said, quote, words can't really express my feelings. It's something that you dream of as a kid, but you never foresee those childhood fantasies becoming reality. Yeah, he said, you see statues of individuals who have done great things with their life and made their mark on history.
Starting point is 02:08:58 But as a basketball player, you never really think about arriving at this point. It's an amazing honor for the Chicago Bulls to do this for me. They unveiled the statue on April 7, 2011, during a game against the Celtics. And kids cried for months. Oh, God. Hopefully they made them a little less. Did they just do it neck down? That would be rad.
Starting point is 02:09:15 That would be great. 33, looking all strong. Neck veins. Yeah, neck veins. No face. Not that weird cheek thing he's got going on. Get rid of that. yeah no face not not that weird cheek thing he's got going on get rid of that so may 27 2011 here uh he gets shit for saying that uh that he thinks that lebron might be a better player than
Starting point is 02:09:36 michael jordan it was during the finals that lebron was in pippen said quote michael jordan is probably the greatest scorer to ever play the game i I may go so far as saying LeBron James may be the greatest player to ever play the game. Yeah, that's fair. Mike could play defense. He was a great defender, especially early in his career. But he wasn't a passer and he didn't set up shit. He was a scorer, which is fine. That's what he was.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Not a lot of people can score what he scored, like two in history. So, you you know pretty goddamn good so i mean but that's fair also he's on tv to be an ambassador of the nba he's trying to promote yeah what today's basketball absolutely well he works for the bulls though right well you still gotta like what the fuck you still gotta just say that this basketball sells this is fun to watch this guy's great yeah i mean absolutely you say anything yeah he well horace grant got mad at him horace grant said wow pippen's my man and will always be close. But I totally disagree.
Starting point is 02:10:29 LeBron is going to be one of the top players to ever play the game. But Michael Jeffrey Jordan, who we bumped heads at times, I think is the best player I've ever seen. My word. How much does Horace Grant want to suck his cock? He put his middle name in it. Tickle in the tank there. Now, Pippin later on clarified. He said, no, I did not say I would take LeBron over Michael.
Starting point is 02:10:48 The reality is you need to go back and figure out what I said. So just shut up and don't say things. 2011, Larsa, who is his wife, is appearing on The Real Housewives of Miami season one. Also on Keeping Up with the Kardashians as well. Damn it. Because she's friends with Kim. So she's turning into a reality show empresario here. December 15th, 2011, Scotty sues the media.
Starting point is 02:11:14 I'm talking sues everybody. He sues CBS, NBCUniversal, Comcast. He sues the student paper of the University of Tampa. What? He sues the ASU legal paper department. Walter Cronkite? He sues everybody. Yeah?
Starting point is 02:11:30 That's basically, for Tampa, it's called the minaret, their student paper that nobody sees. And on page 18, they ran a story from a local paper about articles. It's an article about athletes who've gone broke. And so they just reprinted that. It's a straight rerun. It's like an AP article. So according to this, they say in this article, whatever, that Pippin filed for bankruptcy in 2010.
Starting point is 02:12:01 And he's saying he didn't, that he actually has a net worth of 40 million dollars and you're ruining my my reputation the lawsuit included everybody um the the the the president of the of tampa university of tampa says he sued the lawsuit includes comcast nbc universal cbs corporation and even ut i don't even know how he found out that we put his name in the paper it's not like it's a big newspaper or anything like that i don't even read the paper and he's the president of the university because i don't even fucking read that paper how did he know and i forgot it was what they're going he is seeking at least one million from each defendant
Starting point is 02:12:37 including the tampa fucking student paper the minaret the student paper says they print about 2 000 copies a week and have about 7 000 online subscribers that has some wondering of how much damage the ut story could actually do i have more reach with my twitter by far yeah i could get more people in this an rp the president of the of the university there said quote i doubt that's had any real impact on him 9 000 people who went to the University of Tampa only. It's not like regular people are reading that they went to the University of Tampa. They barely know at that point. They barely know who he is.
Starting point is 02:13:12 They do. So the lawsuit claims the bankruptcy reports have caused Pippen have caused Pippen's offers for personal appearances and endorsements to dwindle. And the judge said he'd like to see more facts to back that up judge says quote my guess is that the lawyers probably did a google search for scotty pippen in bankruptcy and they pulled up every article they could find which makes sense here sounds like so uh 2012 he's suing christian laitner because he's too white suing chris i don't like your whiteness yeah he says no he's suing uh. Christian Laitner is being sued for $30 million by several professional athletes. For what?
Starting point is 02:13:48 Including Sean Merriman, Scotty Pippen, all sorts of people. Sean Merriman doesn't even play the same sport. No, but he invested in a real estate company. Oh. Laitner's even suing his own real estate company, Blue Devil Ventures, for $10 million. Venture. Laitner's gone before federal judges numerous times asking for extensions and shit like that to settle his debts that were relating to this one project. In April 2015, he was foreclosed upon for his $3.65 million mansion that he owned in Florida.
Starting point is 02:14:20 This is Leitner, not Pippin. Is Christian Leitner broke? Oh, he's fucked. He's more than broke. He's in serious debt. Basically, they did a West Village, they called it there, in Durham in 1999. It drew high-profile players from all sorts of sports to invest in it. But they sunk money into this because it's Durham, Duke, him.
Starting point is 02:14:40 It works. So it didn't all work out, though. Hilarious. Left and fucking right christian laitner yeah not good they said they even loaned christian laitner money as well we'll get into that because that'll come back we'll also get into a scotty pippen bankruptcy as well great we'll talk about uh 2012 he is named senior advisor to Jerry Reinsdorf, the Bulls president and COO. 2012 as well, one of his lawsuits is tossed here. He has a bunch of these goddamn lawsuits. This is a lawsuit against the media.
Starting point is 02:15:16 This gets thrown out, so he takes it to the U.S. Court of Appeals, who also tells him to fucking get cracking, get walking. So, yeah, the judge says, says quote since pippin's opportunities diminished after the statement was made he believes they must have been diminished because the statements were made the theory of causation is weak for professional athletes whose earning related to past stardom drop as time passes since their playing days so he basically said you're just losing your heat chief had nothing to do with these people saying you're bankrupt it's called supply and demand you're, and now we don't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:48 He said the judge said Pippin failed to make the case that the websites, quote, either knew the statements to be false or were recklessly indifferent to whether it was true or false. Because as long as they think it's true, it's not fucking anything. They can't be recklessly indifferent. They can't be like, a homeless person told me on the street. Yeah, check your sources a little bit, but if they seem reasonable, he says the judge said, quote, this is from a Supreme Court ruling
Starting point is 02:16:10 that actual malice cannot be inferred from a publisher's failure to retract a statement once it learns to be false. You're shit out of luck, asshole. 2013, Antron, who's the oldest of the Pippin clan here, is he played college ball for Texas A&M International University.
Starting point is 02:16:29 With his bionic legs. With his bionic legs and his laser arm. In 2013, he signed with the Upstate Heat of the World Basketball Association. Not terrific. Poor kid. June 23, 2013, Pippin is at Nobu in Malibu no boo is a restaurant fancy in la yeah hollywood la restaurant it started in new york it was a big big deal sushi restaurant that nobody can get into and then they opened it in malibu yeah and made it a big deal well apparently there was a man there
Starting point is 02:17:00 uh asking for an autograph from scotty and allegedly scotty responded by spitting in his face punching him and then kicking him repeatedly while he was on the ground that seems like a bad response that's what that's the alleged uh yeah it's like if you just signed it would have been faster quick there you go hurt your hand less hip duh pip three three goodbye yeah apparently the man suffered broken teeth and a swollen mouth as well as head and back injuries and went to the hospital holy shit but he ends up being not charged with anything here uh police officials said basically it's too rich here and we're yeah he was in a place where he should have been and if you ask someone for an autograph at a fancy
Starting point is 02:17:40 place like no boo they should kick you in the face i think that was the not that that's true but that's what he would want get out of my beach community you gold-brick and son of a bitch so uh yeah so how'd you get in here supposed to be all famous people la county sheriff spokesman steve whitmore offered the following he said quote he came in to be interviewed about pippin he's been cooperative mr pippin will not arrested. There's more here than meets the eye. Basically, witnesses said the fight started near the valet station outside the restaurant and they think that this guy might
Starting point is 02:18:14 have been asking for it, basically. This guy was trying to instigate Pippin to do this shit. But, I mean, first he was under investigation for assault with a deadly weapon, which would be his shoes. Really? Because he was kicking this person.
Starting point is 02:18:28 The guy was like 50-something years old. What's the guy's name? Do we have his name? Yeah, I'll get to that in a second here. But, I mean, the guy got kicked in the face. That sucks. I mean, Pippin's a huge guy. You don't want that guy kicking the shit out of you.
Starting point is 02:18:40 It would hurt. I would feel fucking bad for a guy. I'd get the shit beat out of him by that. I mean, but then again, between that, I feel... there's a lot of people I feel bad for, Jimmy. Just say that. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Scotty Pippin. What? Owner at Tiger Pop Culture in the greater Denver area.
Starting point is 02:18:58 Scotty Pippin, premier customer service sales manager, team leader and supervising manager in Cleveland slash Akron, Ohio. Poor bastard. He's killing it at life. Oh, yeah. Scotty Pippin, HVAC technician at White Good Services. So there's that in Norfolk, Virginia. Scotty Pippin, entry-level food service production associate.
Starting point is 02:19:18 Oh, no. Wow. In Columbus, Georgia. There are people who think that's him because he's broke. Yeah. Oh, no. Look at that. Look where it all landed. Oh, man. Ent Columbus, Georgia. There are people who think that's him because he's broke. Yeah. Oh, no. Look at that. Look where it all landed.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Oh, man. Entry level. Scotty Pippin transporter in Miami and Fort Lauderdale area. I don't know if he just moves himself to a different time and place. I've transported. Scotty Pippin owner of Qantas. I don't know if that's the airline or something else. It's in Ireland, so I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:19:44 These are all Scotty IE's, too. Really? And finally, the reason for those articles, by the way, and the reason why he sued a bunch of media companies. Scotty Lee Pippin of Overland Park, Kansas. Scotty Pippin, who filed for bankruptcy in 2005. Oh, no. Yeah. Pippen had checking and savings accounts totaling $102, $1,200 in clothing and $50 in an IRA. He owed $36,757.74 in phone, medical, and utility bills and an auto lease.
Starting point is 02:20:21 The guy had $102 to his name. It's literally an Eddie Johnson situation, minus... Yeah, minus it being a player. One of the worst things. Yeah, this is like cousin Eddie Johnson. This would be in Kansas somewhere. Different.
Starting point is 02:20:33 This is so bad. Yeah. That poor bastard. Is that why they ran it? Because of that guy? Yeah, they confused him for him. Oh, no! That's what it turned out.
Starting point is 02:20:41 They found another Scotty Pippen who filed bankruptcy and it was the same time that they said Scototty pippen so they think that got the initial spark and then somewhere it just it just ended up being in the thing and it just got rolled over that's what they're pretty sure of it's the same thing as eddie johnson how crazy is that did skip bayless do this oh i hope so i'll fucking kick him in the i wish skip bales would ask scotty pippen for autograph. That's what I would love. No, boo.
Starting point is 02:21:06 You know what? Ask him for two. See if you can get one for somebody else, too. And give him a specific spelling of the name. And tell him what you needed to say. Tell him what you needed to say and see what happens. Jesus Christ. So, there's a lawsuit in 2013 from this guy, Cameron Shavigi. Shavigi. s-h-a-f-i-g-h-i does he work for tmz
Starting point is 02:21:31 no uh he filed a four million dollar lawsuit against scotty here alleging that he beat him up outside nobu uh spit in his face shoved punched and kicked him so uh yeah he's suing him for four million dollars he called it a brutal and unjustified attacked uh attack here he was whatever pippin was eating with his family and apparently this guy was taking pictures of him eating with his family and then sought an autograph and both the restaurant was told no and then followed him outside and kept pestering him in the parking lot and the argument turned violent and uh it happens so uh if the guy if fibum thought he was with his kids and he thought this guy was being
Starting point is 02:22:10 overly aggressive oh man you get knocked the fuck out if you come near my kids that's different yeah it's not me coming out of the arena by myself you break my balls whatever if my kids are involved you you stay 10 feet back i don't know you sure so uh 2014 scotty files a counter lawsuit don't know you for sure so uh 2014 scotty files a counter lawsuit okay scotty sues everybody files a counter suit against this guy claiming that this guy was aggressive and intoxicated and he's asking for unspecified damages from this other guy my hand hurt my yeah my toe hurts from kicking your teeth out jesus christ on shoe. You know how expensive these are? Pippin also makes a cameo appearance in season three of the TV show Chicago Fire. Really? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:22:51 He loves Chicago. Well, they love him. Yeah. He kind of represents there. April 28, 2015, his daughter, Sierra, is arrested for, quote, drunkenly urinating in a hotel lobby. Oh, that's awesome. That's fucking great. Scottie Pippen's daughter is drunk pissing in the lobby?
Starting point is 02:23:10 Sierra Pissen, or Pippen as she likes to be called, was at the University of Iowa, and she entered the lobby of the Sheraton Inn in Iowa City, Iowa. Classy. All class. At 1.30 in the morning, she walked up to the desk and pulled her pants down urinated on the floor then left no words pulled her pants down pissed all over the lobby yeah which you know it hit that tile yeah it was making sound so she had piss all over her shoes and fucking pants too that she pulled down that loud and then she just left took off that is awesome yeah the records police records confirm
Starting point is 02:23:47 that a quote intoxicated female pedestrian quote just walked in and peed at the front desk which is in the police report the greatest thing ever at 1 29 a.m uh she's ultimately arrested for this she was found in a walkway next to the hotel and appeared to be intoxicated, smelled heavily of alcohol, according to police. And piss. And she had piss all over her shoes. Her ankles were soaked. Covered. She was also wearing two wristbands from different bars as well.
Starting point is 02:24:16 She's been doing it, man. Shit-faced. Hell yeah. They said, yeah, visibly intoxicated, wearing from two separate bars. She then accused the officers of being racist and refused to participate in a sobriety test you're right no i we may be racist but you're covered in urine so that's going to supersede racism at the moment you guys are racist yeah but you pissed everywhere you pissed in the lobby so pretty sure Princess Di could go squat and piss in the lobby and she'd probably get arrested for it too at this point.
Starting point is 02:24:47 Like, you're good. This is great. I wish I was there. Amazing. Then once they identified her, they saw her picture. Hotel staff told police they recognized her from an incident earlier in the month. She's a serial pisser. Well, no, where she fought with host
Starting point is 02:25:05 hotel security there and uh yeah and and took off and left eventually her blood alcohol level shown to be 0.141 so she's shit-faced enough to piss in a hotel lobby that's awesome and then well she goes to this place to cause trouble for some reason october 9th 2015 uh the the nobu ass kicked guy here drops his lawsuit uh the pippin's attorneys said quote this man was a complete fraud from the get-go we're delighted in the fact that it's now been demonstrably proven and that scotty and larsa have been vindicated uh so there it was going to go to trial the next month here. Pippin here, he's suing again. Jesus Christ. Lund, his financial advisor, who ended up, what did he win, $11.7 million from him or something?
Starting point is 02:25:54 Lund in 2016 is sentenced to three years in prison on multiple fraud counts, including forging Pippin's signature on a $1.4 million loan that Lund used to pay off personal debts. Unbelievable. Wow. He put Scotty in $1.4 million of debt for himself. Wow. To pay off his house. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:26:15 2016, more Christian Laettner shit here. Basically, according to this lawsuit, Laettner still owes, even in 2016, $600,000 of the $ 2.5 million he was ordered to pay scotty back and so larsa takes to twitter and calls him out quote at latener b ball she's fucking at him tagged him are you ever gonna pay us back homie and then again it's crazy you've been fucking us around forever at christian latener b ballie, how do you sleep at night? So, she is blowing them up. She wants that 600 grand. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:51 Well, she will blow up a spot, as proven on October 1st, 2016, when 911 calls made from this day. First on October 1st here, where she calls the 911 and tells the responder, can you send someone over here? My husband's being really aggressive with me. So the police are called. That's broken up with no arrests. Then October 4th, she had to call back 911. Fort Lauderdale police came over and she said, quote, my husband's gotten crazy with me again.
Starting point is 02:27:21 So that was that. They were. So that's two times in three days police are called for domestic situations so scotty files for divorce he files for divorce i remember that i don't how dare you call the cops on me when i'm trying to be a little aggressive god he says quote this is a very difficult time or this lawyer said this is a very difficult time for mr pippin he's hopeful that the divorce will be sweet or swift and amicable we are respecting his request to protect his privacy well that's good 2017 february rake reconciles with larsa they get back together take you back
Starting point is 02:27:56 that's right in 2017 also he appeared appears himself in season two episode of uh the tv show lethal weapon which i did not know they made a TV version of Lethal Weapon. I think that is Donald Glover in it, though. Oh. I think that's true. I might be wrong. I don't know. I'm probably wrong.
Starting point is 02:28:14 That sounds terrible. It does. That's not good. He's a great actor, very talented man. I don't want to see that. I just don't want to watch a Lethal Weapon TV show. That's no good. April of 2018, just as funny authorities in rural arkansas are
Starting point is 02:28:27 investigating the theft of more than fifty thousand dollars worth of a worth of farm equipment from a farm owned by scotty pippin investigator for the sheriff's department said two tractors were stolen from the farm in hamburg here uh and pippin's family's offering a twenty five hundred dollar reward for uh information leading to an arrest and conviction uh pippin's family is offering a $2,500 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction. Pippin owns a livestock farm with his brother there. October 2018, Sophia, his 10-year-old daughter, appears on Dancing with the Stars Jr. Are you serious? I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 02:28:59 Want to know who else was on there? Yeah. Okay, we have Tripp Palin. Terrible. Tripp Palin. else was on there yeah okay we have trip palin terrible trip palin uh we have um hudson west who i guess is a an actor on general hospital and a child uh addison osta smith who's a master chef junior winner uh honey boo-boo is on here jason maybaum from raven's home and freaky friday uh akash vukodi who's the spelling bee participant uh mandla morris who is stevie wonder's son uh miles brown who's in blackish ariana greenblatt who's in stuck in the middle and avengers infinity war
Starting point is 02:29:42 mackenzie ziggler the dancer singer actress and sky brown a professional skateboarder anyway uh she doesn't win so there you go james it's worse than i thought she's eliminated fourth it's damon wayans and some guy named claine crawford but it looks like the first season may have been stifler oh no yeah it looks like it does that not look like stifler to you that's definitely that's him that's 1000 that's the first season then the second season it looks like it turns into a different guy he's like i can't do this this is embarrassing even for me and i do i do direct to video american pie part 14 and i'll fucking not do this anymore fuck damon wayan fuck so november 2018 larsa files for divorce this time uh she says quote it is with deep sadness that scotty and i announced
Starting point is 02:30:32 that we're legally separating we've had we've both tried very hard for a long time to make our marriage work and have ultimately come to the conclusion that it's best that we lead separate lives we have so many amazing memories together. We remain the best of friends and love each other very much. Especially that I remember that I am at least $20 million rich. Richer now, yeah. He's not bankrupt.
Starting point is 02:30:55 Now, 2019, his son, Scotty Jr., commits to play basketball at Vanderbilt. Okay. Yeah, he does. Jesus Christ, man. He does well, too, actually. I was scared. No, no, we'll talk about it. He He does well, too, actually. I was scared. No, no, we'll talk about it. He does really well for himself, actually.
Starting point is 02:31:09 He's a good ball player, this kid. He's going to go somewhere. Now, March 30, 2019, he's got a house that he can't sell in Fort Lauderdale. He's had it for a decade. It's been on the market. He's got a big thing, a canal that leads out to the ocean. Nobody wants it. Nobody wants it.
Starting point is 02:31:25 Sprawling pool, basketball court, gourmet kitchen, game room, media room, waterfront views. Uh, very nice.
Starting point is 02:31:31 It's initial initially listed in 2010 for 16 million. And, uh, since then it's been bouncing on and off. Uh, it was offered as a luxury rental for 40 grand a month there. Um, yeah,
Starting point is 02:31:43 they said though, a real estate person said that, uh, said that it might not check all the boxes for people. The home sits on a couple of lots, but the view is of a canal. Don't get me wrong. It's a beautiful canal. But a buyer with $10 million to spend is probably going to say they can find a better view for that price.
Starting point is 02:31:59 That's the problem here. So that's an issue. And they said also that the house was built in 2004 and is relatively unchanged it's going to have to update it and do all of that they said many luxury buyers would rather opt for new construction so that's makes sense he doesn't understand that yeah he said i have a home under contract right now that's similar to this one in size square footage and features it's brand new and it's about 11 million right so yeah location location location if you buy that you got to put five million into it so then you're in and you get a view of a fucking canal 2019 more court
Starting point is 02:32:31 more real estate drama 2019 he is suing a tenant of his home that is renting it who is he sues it's a an attorney slash comedian named lindsey glazer not nicky glazer lindsey glazer with a z g-l-a-z-e-r do we know she goes by the moniker the alpha bitch do you know this person okay i don't either we're comics i don't know who the fuck this person is i don't know her she might be an up-and-comer i don't know this helped get her some pub renting a place from scotty pippen yeah well we'll talk about it we don't know exactly what it is but she she, her, her husband, and her five-year-old, four-year-old daughter at the time, Scottie's suing them for damages to the house. He even named a five-year-old girl in the lawsuit. Wow.
Starting point is 02:33:16 He sued a child. Yeah. One of the items he listed missing, by the way, is a set of Cuisinart kitchen knives. So when he talks about missing property, that's what he's talking about here. Basically, in September, I found the lawsuit right here. September of 2017, Hurricane Irma hit Florida here, and Glazer and her husband, Jacob, claimed damage to their home, and Glazer submitted an insurance claim and everything like that. In connection with the insurance claim and the help of their carrier and a housing agent through all of this,
Starting point is 02:33:50 basically they were able to find looking out temporary housing in Fort Lauderdale. Eventually, this is what the lawsuit says in exact words here. Eventually, Glazer set her sights on the plaintiff's property despite being more than three times the size of their own house. So they wanted a bigger house. Seemingly demonstrative of her inability to afford the rental. Because she's a comic with 1,100 followers on Twitter. Yeah. And she only has those because she follows 1,100 people.
Starting point is 02:34:20 She's one of those team follow back girls. Exactly. So it says glazer redirected funds paid by chubb for dwelling repairs to satisfy the initial security deposit as we'll talk about uh basically they said that uh she was supposed to pay a monthly rent in the amount of thirty thousand dollars a month holy shit what whoa how can she afford that? She's supposed to pay for all utility services during the lease term. And basically that the property is for personal residential use only. Her obligation was to maintain the property in top show condition because it was for sale the whole time as well.
Starting point is 02:34:58 In the lease, it says that the property and contents shall be kept pristine condition and not subject, not subject to reasonable wear and tear. So you're supposed to live in the house and not live there. Literally, it says it's not subject to reasonable wear and tear. This it says this is unreasonable is what that says here. Wow. They also agreed to to get a renter's policy of a million dollars or more to cover the everything because it's furnished and every shit like that. So she said that, you know, she'd surrender everything, blah, blah, blah. The house was being marketed for $10 million.
Starting point is 02:35:30 This is his house that he can't sell. So she moved into it. Now, he can't sell it. Why is he friends with her? How does he know her? He doesn't. It's through the housing thing that they found this. Glazer assured all parties,
Starting point is 02:35:42 this is what it says in the lawsuit, including plaintiff, that she came from a very prominent family, always met her obligations and would respect the home and its condition and cooperate in all respects. She she touted having domestic staff to help so much so that she rejected having staff familiar with the house in any meaningful fashion. Uh, also they said that she breached the lease by quote, neglecting the care of the home, allowing many aspects of the home to fall into disrepair, disrepair, allowing her domestic animals to urinate on furniture, linens, beds, floors, carpets, and basically anything else they chose. Gross.
Starting point is 02:36:16 Um, it's, it's, they have a cat in a lab damaging the front gate, damaging the home entertainment system, destroying countless cabinets and drawers, failing to pay rent when due, using the home for commercial use, failing to obtain renter's insurance, failing to pay utility bills when due, literally stealing personal household items, including a Cuisinart knife set and other utensils. Wow. Causing the home to be infected.
Starting point is 02:36:40 It says infected. It probably should be infested with insects. Illegally using the property for commercial purposes and failing to pay, blah, blah, blah. Holy shit. Failure to keep property clean and sanitary. Remove all garbage from property in a sanitary manner. All this shit, right?
Starting point is 02:36:56 So, yeah, this goes back and forth and back and forth. It says, at the time the parties were negotiating the lease, it was understood that the lease was not only for Glazerzer but also intended to provide housing for her husband and their four-year-old daughter together with their domestic staff here so uh i can't believe it names the daughter here which is fucking amazing uh it goes on and on and on they're still fighting in court i'm sure she's a fucking nightmare dude they're still going back and forth she's an attorney so she also knows how to do this that's how she makes money she doesn't make money from comedy she's a fucking lawyer she's she's oh boy she's a fucking i saw she was doing like some one night
Starting point is 02:37:33 or somewhere okay i looked at her her instagram and her twitter and she is fucking annoying yeah so they claim all these damages in response to the lawsuit here uh she started a go fund me page attempting to raise 14 to replace scotty's knives which is pretty fucking funny uh she raised 31 and promised to donate the excess money to charity wow scotty there you go scotty and his lawyer said that the lawsuit that with her as part of uh they said that the lawsuit with her is because they think that she is the family of the glazers that own the tampa bay buccaneers that's what they thought that's what that's what the lawsuit states that she should be like going to her family for money she responded quote if i'm a member of that glazer family that's news to me if that were the case we would have
Starting point is 02:38:22 leased for michael jordan instead which again, pretty good burn, I gotta say. Finally she gets a joke in. Something. July 25th, 2019, Scotty's being sued by a woman who claims that she had a relationship with him during his heyday with the Bulls. This is Chevette Valentine. She claims she dated Pippen from 87 through 93 when he was engaged and married and all sorts of shit. She said she would travel to see Pippen when he played outside of Chicago.
Starting point is 02:38:49 She racked up a lot of expenses, hotel, car, gas, food, parking, etc., which she claims he promised to reimburse her for. She's suing for $9,999, but claims she's actually owed much more. That's just the most you can get in small claims court. She said she was Pippin's first girlfriend when he moved to Chicago. She claims that she did not know he was married
Starting point is 02:39:10 when they started dating or had a newborn baby. She said she became suspicious when one day at his house she saw cases of baby formula. That's when you got suspicious? She said that he said they were for his sister's kid.
Starting point is 02:39:23 He bought a bunch for his sister, and she was like, okay. Bullshit, Tom. All right. Yep, and she says that he finally came clean while they were having sex on Valentine's Day of 1988. Oh, in the middle of it? Oh, yeah. Hope I don't get another baby. Oh, I got a baby.
Starting point is 02:39:42 Oh, I'm fucking married. I got to pull out. I don't want another one. I got a baby. Oh, I'm fucking married. I got to pull out. I don't want another one. I mean, shit. Oh, fuck. I mean, never mind. April 16th, 2020. According to Scotty, he's dismissed as public relations ambassador for the Bulls.
Starting point is 02:39:59 He said that they could not come to an agreement on compensation. And that's it. He said, quote quote i didn't really want it to be uh out in the public but i'm no longer employed by the bulls probably a good thing right i'd like to associate myself with winning because they've sucked for a long time scotty jr in 2020 he's the point guard for the commodores of vanderbilt he's named to the all sec freshman team after averaging 12 points a game in his freshman season it's fucking outstanding yeah so good for him preston and justin both play
Starting point is 02:40:30 high school ball at a prestigious prep school with shacks kids and uh some other nba player too i can't remember sophia pippen who is the dancing with the stars junior she is uh she is uh she's signed to wilhelmina modeling agency and they said that she's doing very well she wants to pursue a career in modeling can't get enough scotty pippen there's tons of pippen merch it's everywhere it's all over the place watch the last dance if you want to see you know michael jordan kind of throw some shade at him and just be kind of shitty to him in general and if you want to just see what he's up to you can follow him on twitter where he's at scotty pippen and it says father hall of famer six-time nba champion olympic gold gold medalist 50 greatest sounds pretty good he's followed 65
Starting point is 02:41:16 people and he's being followed by 589 900 he's doing great he's doing great who knows he maybe even sue us or you you. Who knows? You never know when you're going to run into him. Or your children. Or your children. You just never know. I'm surprised he didn't sue our dogs. Fluffy, the Labrador, and Scratchy, the kitty.
Starting point is 02:41:36 They shit on my rug. They shit on the rug, and I don't care for it. So that's Scotty Pippen, everybody. Holy shit. Scotty Pippen. Wow. Holy shit. Scottie Pippen. Wow. He's a dick. He's kind of a dick.
Starting point is 02:41:47 He's a dick. Like, I got... But you expect it. It seems like he was fine until Jordan left, and then he turned into an asshole after that. That's what I mean. That's why it was grace. That's in terms of, like, how he's perceived, the perception of Scottie Pippen. I wonder why he doesn't respect women, though.
Starting point is 02:42:02 You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know if that's, like, just a culture of sports of like that's just how the guys are and they talk maybe he's an alpha bitch or maybe he's an alpha bitch so either way that's scotty pippen yeah if you like that show or just want to talk about it and tell people about it you can do it all very easily by going to Apple Podcasts, that purple icon. Give us five stars. It does not matter what you say.
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Starting point is 02:44:00 patreon it's a lot of fun so funny so fun So fun. This week on Patreon for Crime and Sports, we are doing stories about my friend Rod Beck, the baseball player. You guys have asked a lot about it. So Rod Beck stories this week. I'm going to tell you guys some fun stuff. Check all that out and come see us. And if you want to be one of those people,
Starting point is 02:44:18 one of these fine people that we're going to talk about, you can do it very easily at patreon.com slash crime and sports, or you can just head over to paypal make a one-time donation using our email address there crime and sports at gmail.com that doesn't give you the bonus stuff but that'll just mean if you're a nice person you feel like dropping a couple bucks on us you can you can do that but what i need right now i need it like bad jimmy hit me with the list of the greatest fucking people on the face of the earth. From the foul line, Jimmy.
Starting point is 02:44:47 Drop it in the hole. This week's executive producers are Clay Thorson, Daniel Ogilby, Nick and his wife over at Buck Trucking. Thank you guys so much. David and Evelyn, Evelyn Turcule. Turcule. Evelyn. It's Evelyn. Not, sorry.
Starting point is 02:45:04 David, your wife loves you she loves you stephanie uh theobar uh cody beretta elizabeth spearman melissa turner amanda berry not the one that was kidnapped i'm sure uh total acts in michigan uh they're in detroit chris ross when when this shit's over you guys start patronizing uh uh small businesses especially Total Axe up there. Go throw axes. It's literally some of the most fun I've ever had in my life. Mark, you seven-foot behemoth, thank you for getting Ian McClung into the show, and hang in there. He's fucking – he's got – I'm not going to get into his personal shit.
Starting point is 02:45:39 He's got some things happening. Hang in there, Mark. Jack and Carolyn, happy anniversary. I think it's Caroline. Cecilia Carter, Adrian DeWitt, Megan Bonstetter, Shayla Itty-Cheria? No. Jordan Bennett, Jens Rippey, Jason Villarumone, Matthew Tipton, Amber Mackey, Emerson with no last name, Ashley Taylor, Aaron Taylor, Denise Anderson, Savannah McKinney,
Starting point is 02:46:05 Tara Ziegler, Michelle Finling, Jessica Rivero, Sarah Click, Tammy Massman, JT Ballum, Rob Swanson, and Keith Navarro. Thank you guys so much for everything you do. You're amazing. We can't do it without you. Other producers this week are Donna Sittler, Carrie Gage, Taryn with no last name. Happy birthday, Alan Moody, Thomas Smith, Danica Ulrich, Elizabeth Herrera, Matt Lyons, Heather Briggs, Amanda Coleman, Graham Wilson, Sarah Fox, Brooklyn Parks, James Carter, Paige with no last name, Liz Vasquez, Susan Nova. Scotty Hatfield. Laura Ferguson English. Jennifer Day. Ryan and Sarah Webb.
Starting point is 02:46:49 Allie Santorelli, maybe? Rebecca Kunzel. Or Kunzel. Or Kunzel. I don't know. Patricia Arcand. Janice Hill. Peyton Meadows.
Starting point is 02:46:59 Carl Kirshner. Andrea Webster. Mitchell with no last name. Evan Lee. Tony Santos. Amanda Knight. Tracy Renninger. Anthony Ryan. Juna Leisty, Mara King, Mary King, Ryan Shank, Gary Howard, Yaviani, Lorenzo, Krista Walker, Emmanuel Rodriguez, Rachel Lamptey, Christina Lambert,
Starting point is 02:47:23 Don Dickman, Amy Yell. She donated both ways. Thank you, Amy. The Pattersons, Sean Beth Rosida. No, Beth Zaire. No, Beth Zaire. And Esmeralda. That's who it is.
Starting point is 02:47:36 There you go. Austin J. Henry. Brennan with no last name. Tammy Robinson. Trey Volkanar. Lee Dudley. Dooley. Samuel Crouch.
Starting point is 02:47:44 Carolyn Kriger. That's a tough one. Chloe Carlson, Hannah Bevins, Amanda McDowell, Autumn Uplinger, Lauren Gray, Mina Smith, Mina? Ah, shit. Jude Kendall, George Lopez. He had to put his dog Karma down. Oh, I saw that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:48:02 I'm sorry, George. Or Jorge. That's probably Jorge. Louise Rayfield. Elizabeth Leatherland. Autumn with no last name. Steve Schnell in PA. Thanks, Steve.
Starting point is 02:48:12 Nick Letourneau. Thanks. By the way, Mary Kay Letourneau's son's name is Nick. It is. I don't know if it's the same dude. Well, if it is, thank you. I really hope it is. And Nick, I hope you're thriving, buddy.
Starting point is 02:48:21 Yeah. Patrick Haggerty. Marissa Levine. Dove Harper. Toby Moulton. Pamela Camel, Alexandria Bracken... No. Bracken... Bracken... Wow.
Starting point is 02:48:35 What is happening? Brackanovich, I think. Abby Green. Emily with no last name. William Perry. William Northcutt. Angela Reynolds. TJ Mack. Thank you, TJ. Megan House. Mike with no last name, William Perry, William Northcutt, Angela Reynolds, TJ Mack, thank you, TJ, Megan House, Mike with no last name, Iggy?
Starting point is 02:48:49 No, Iska? Oh, 1564 Ventures? I tried to pronounce numbers. Jackie Sukup, Aidan Toth, Dave in Salt Lake City, Kelsey Burton. Hey. Why was that so hard? Oh, boy. burton what hey why was that so hard uh uh oh boy uh near it near uh naraj vj cj mcandrews jenny melo mellow matt wilson gene i was doing so great john gene day her dear carl wet weber
Starting point is 02:49:19 hafid hafid christobal mike samansky uh eve fry lou bush christina cassidy amber adams jacqueline payton uh yeah martha eggler no angler runny easy ones before i know pixie gamers harton hunter mccarthy i hunt they're i can't get the easy ones either. Cat McFarland. No, Cat Ferguson. Nick. You're a disaster, Jimmy. Fleming or Fleming? I think it's Fleming. It's more likely Fleming than Fleming. Right.
Starting point is 02:49:51 I've heard that name more. Sharina Sweeney. Daniel Pinnenberg. Pinnenberg. Josh Elul. Eric Bryan. Nick Klug. Wheels are coming off right now. Luke Banks.
Starting point is 02:50:03 Eric Frick. Kristen Minnis. R. Vincent. Bolts are shooting off to the side of Banks, Eric Frick, Kristen Minnis, Tim Carr, Michelle Council, Mary Ann and Paul Carnes, Larry Dunn, Dave with no last name, Adriana Tumasayan? Nope. And there goes the white wall. The brakes started leaking.
Starting point is 02:50:21 Michael Lakin, Katri Fuel, Spencer Woolard. Oh, Spencer, Katri Fuel, Spencer Woolard. Oh, Spencer, I know her. She's fantastic. Thank you. Armando Vera, Christy Stutz, Billy Daniels, Yasmin M., and her cousin Melissa, Harry Edwards, Mama Mandy Collins, Emily with no last name, Luke Lay, Christina Hills, Hannah Jacobs, Anna Celeste, Carly Arlington.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Nope, it's Arlington. Tyler Bowers, Gage Simmons, Maria R. Jacqueline Garcia, Shannon Avery, Esli, I think. Esli Anderson? Yep. Kevin Ngui? Catherine Logan, Joe Johnson. Chris with no last name.
Starting point is 02:51:07 Adrienne Lacey. Thank you, Adriennerian her husband's uh they live up in milwaukee we see them at the shows up thank you uh melissa england laurel uh laurel sullivan tina dedrick uh dedrick taryn lutz amanda no art yeah amanda strobe uh strobe strobeck god damn it sean wolf cynthia palmer dominic dun Duncan, Jeeze Shabazz, Meredith Williams, Caden Gomalski, Christina Cassidy, Kendall Kerr, Leslie Alcantar, Mona Stevens, Joan, John, Kylo, or Kilo, Adam Apple, Aaron Miller, Alexis Binder, James Bidwell, Gian one, Gian, Gianni, Gianni. No, Gianni, Gianni, uh, Sarah Drake. I think Angela, uh, placentia, uh, angel with no last name. Caleb Plummer.
Starting point is 02:52:00 Yep. Plummer Palmer. Hey, fuck. Crystal. I'm getting there. We're almost done crystal leanne charlie prigmore uh denna denna what denna diva earlier no yeah david brayton broughton savannah barfield amanda ronning kim kim cameron stephanie zaka martha casta what did I do? Casta Tutasonan? Not going to work here anymore.
Starting point is 02:52:26 Not going to work here anymore. Nikki with no last name. Tina Henson. Quelxie. Matthew McAfee. Booze Wizard. Oh, shit. Carol Paulin.
Starting point is 02:52:38 Shauna Mahoney. Amitrano. Sam with no last name. Kenzie Gearhart. Zach Basler. Miranda Jones. Miranda Jones. Ike Vasco, not that Drew, I guess that's another Drew, Michael D'Amato, Danielle Erickson, Zach Basler, Jay Jacobs, Mark Peralta, Andrew Hunt, Jay with no last name, Ian Artemovich, I think I did that right. No, I didn't. Amy Webb, Blair Bryant, Ray Sean Eastman, Nicole Gonzalez, Jim Morphus Gas, Melissa Weber, Amanda Strickhauser, Blair Bryant, Chris Stahl. Oh, God damn it. Anthony LaPoma, Kyle McDonald, Lizard Q, Juliet Hughes, Pedro Gonzalez, Amanda Pesce, Sixth, no, listen, this says penis in seven different ways, and that's not her name.
Starting point is 02:53:33 Seven different penises. aries persel uh kaylin kayla roberts amanda siegel uh brit beckner fml dan curran or curran or current current uh andrew feagle jamie nose nose bush that sounds like you need a trimmer shane rankin jenny bukowski i think ryan kincaid kareen kreen emily blank bain timothy uh eric eric Maureen Crean, Emily Bain, Timothy Arigui, Todd Purley. How did we get the hardest? Darius DJ, Michelle Gleason, Elio Purin, Sarah Stallman, Dylan Albertson, Robertson, Jericho Carbon, I am Andy Redman, Brian Culbertson, Mike Rabe, Gary with no last name, Jennifer Burns, Nicole Sabenka, S. Rodriguez, Denise Willery, no, Worley, Worley Ayala, Maura Pintar, Marion Mueller, Michael Manzo, Stacy DiOrio,osh lee uh josh austin ben larson eric with no last name oliver case on gary melissa lydia brad windle shelly murphy uh jesse strickland aaron burzinski and shirley no shipley derrick sailor vincent warburton, Jonathan Porter, Andy Mitchell, Sam Rosner, Lucy with no last name, Gonzalo Cabrera, Andra, Bella Boone, Shauna Taylor, Jeremy Short, Michelle Perenaud, no, Antoinette Livermore, Chris Shands, Dakota Lipney, April Bennett, Tyler Knapp, Heather Espy, Nicole and Ashley, by the way, their mother and daughter.
Starting point is 02:55:30 And they donated last week. Her mother did under that. And then she donated this week under that. So now we have two Nicole and Ashley's same people. Liana Boyd, Colin Spencer, Caitlin Coburn, Andrew Geisner, Jeff Blowbaum, Katie Oatley, Michael Walters, Cameron Bullard, Gina Crow, Matt DeStefano, Jenna Crow, Cameron Bullard, Sierra Plotz, Sam Terranova, Dirty Luckstache, Tiffany Cronquist, Susan Phillips, Kristen Urie, Jason Wiener, Echo Clayton, Jennifer Cabaz, Lisa Ko, Sanjay Hibagazin. Nope. Hibagazin? Hibagazon. Kylie Placic. Laura.
Starting point is 02:56:28 Ray Sanders. Joshua Smith. Jessica Brotherton. Joseph Bunger. Fran Roberts. Tama Ellis. Tama Ellis. Jordan Catherine.
Starting point is 02:56:38 Max Marks. Mark Garcia. Johnny Block. Ryan Hansen. Ruth Beagle. Jessica Rojas. Dahlia Dominguez, Mitt Mitt, Jenny, no, Jenny Hand, yep, Carrie Galazorn, nope, Heather Holbrooks, Craig Bissette, Chris Riesenbeck, Matt, what is this, War Machine Coppenhaver, Andrew Augustus, Tracy
Starting point is 02:57:01 Johnson, Ethan Benfield, Dan Krawczyk, T.D., Terrell Hansen, Tiffany Druch, Brittany Wright, Kevin Franklin, Jim Barrow, Monica Colson, Jimmy Terry, Andrew Bryan, Dick Minge, Steph Monroe, Elaine Kratz, and Lucille Farrell. Thank you guys so, so much. And also thinking about Lisa over there in North Carolina. Oh, yeah, big time. She's wonderful. Hang in there, Lisa. Yeah, man. Sorry to hear that.
Starting point is 02:57:31 We think about you. Be good. Thank you. Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you for everything you do for us. Honestly, we're going to keep trying to hustle and make more and more bonus stuff for you guys. So you feel like that is money well spent. And thank you.
Starting point is 02:57:43 Thank you. We can't get out on the road and trying to give you guys something extra. It feels good, and we really appreciate you guys lapping it up. Absolutely, and the way we make our living is going on the road, so it helps a lot. It helps us pay bills.
Starting point is 02:57:58 It's certainly helping. It's keeping literally the lights on, so thank you guys for everything you do for us there. Jimmy, what if they wanted to thank you or keep your lights on? How could they do it turn them off for christ's sake how do they find you you find me at at wisman sucks that's the one wh wisman i've heard of i couldn't even pronounce my own last name whisman sucks on twitter and instagram thank you very much um for everything what about you you can find me at jimmy p is funny or just copy and paste my name from the show description so you don't have to try to figure out how the fuck to spell it because
Starting point is 02:58:28 you'll fail you'll fail miserably and then your spell check will correct it to something completely different like fettuccine and you'll be like that's there's not even an f in there it's a fucking disaster so do that keep coming back and seeing us hope you enjoyed scotty pippen more craziness next week remember patreon get on that everybody live from the crime and sportsen. More craziness next week. Remember, Patreon. Get on that. Everybody, live from the Crime and Sports studios. We will see you next week. Bye. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Crime and Sports early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts.
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