Crime in Sports - #218 - The Cuban Cowboy - The Bombasticness of Pedro "Pistola Pete" Ramos

Episode Date: July 28, 2020

This week, we explore the life of a man who went from the tobacco fields of Cuba, to Yankee Stadium, and nearly pitching a no hitter. But after a lengthy, yet mediocre baseball career, he embarked on several enterprises, such as making cigars, and being involved in the drug trade. Known for dressing up in elaborate cowboy outfits, and always carrying his trademark pistols, he was quite the character... Even in prison. This story spans from Mickey Mantle to the Miami cocaine trade of the 1980's! It's Pedro "Pistola Pete" Ramos!! Sell cigarettes after school to support your family, become obsessed with cowboy outfits, and always carry at least two guns, especially when you're holding a couple of kilos!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/[e-mail]/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder#  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Thank you guys so much, and no pitching, just straight to a crazy episode. Great. Let's do this, Jimmy. It's just insane. Let's get on with this. Our fellow of the day here is Pedro Ramos is his name. I don't know if you've ever heard of this guy. There's been a few Pedro Ramoses, as you might imagine.

Sounds popular. A couple of ballplayers. A boxer in the 60s who was a good boxer named Mondo Ramos. His real name was Pedro Ramos. So he got arrested a bunch of times. So that confused the shit out of me while researching this episode. I'm like, oh, my God, he boxes, too? Wait a second.

No, because our guy's a baseball player. And we get to mix some very rare things today. Normally, it's an era. It's an era. It's like, okay, it's the 80s. You can feel what it's really like. 70s craziness. Or even like if we do an old school one but very rarely for some reason do these eras like mix we never get to hear a story like this one today we will get to hear this where

there's a bunch of like mickey mannell whitey ford like 1950s baseball stories mixed with late 70s, early 80s Miami cocaine trafficking syndicates. We never mix those two. That's rare. It's just weird. We've got a guy who is bridging many, many things today. Right. And that's Pedro Ramos. His birth name, Pedro Ramos Guerra, but that's the mother's name.

Now they work it in Cuba. He's from Cuba here. He's got nicknames. Oh. And oh boy, does he earn them. are they coming deep to lots of them well there's two names really that he's called one is the cuban cowboy yeah everybody well if you let me show you a picture of him right here there he is indeed 10 gallon hat cuban that's a cuban cowboy yeah 10 gallon hat western shirt fucking cigar hanging out of his mouth. Cuban Caballero.

Yep, he is the Cuban cowboy or his alternate name because when he's in the States, you know, back then everybody would anglicize their name and make it very American sounding. So Pedro sounded very ethnic, whereas Pete didn't. So he'd go by Pete when he was playing ball. So his other name was Pistola Pete. Is it Pistola or is it pistolero no it's pistola pete that's what they called him that's like pistol pete pistola pete because he in addition to his cowboy outfit and he wears by the way not just the hat no not just

the shirt yeah full regalia full head to toe spurs cowboy and i'm not talking i'm not talking like cowboy like you know uh good the bad and the ugly like kind of dirty what's i'm talking full-on one color with like sparkly pop and shit on it and like like a tv cowboy from the 50s that's how he dresses with with fucking guns on right six shooters and everything. Dressed like Gene Autry. Dressed like Gene Autry except playing in the Bronx. Yeah. I love it. What the fuck is happening?

And in Washington, D.C. Great. Dressed like that. That's our guy. That's our guy. So put that in a frame right there. That's where we're starting with. You know that guy's not above the board.

He's a character, number one, also. Everything about him, he's a character. He's like the board. He's a character, number one, also. Everything about him, he's a character. He's like the ladies. He's a womanizer. He's got like four wives, and he goes through them like crazy. You mean caricature. Yeah, he is. The guy is amazing.

He's very flamboyant, like on the mound, too. He celebrates and shit, which back then was rare. It was not normal. I wonder how he got introduced to the cowboy culture and was like that's my shit i got it i got the whole story right here what do you think i'm gonna not tell you that i just want to see a guy from cuba finding this culture being like what have i been doing head to toe baby i need a buckle right that's what i need what is what's wrong with me i've never i haven't been wearing six shooters this whole time i've been wearing near enough cow this is ridiculous you

know my turquoise right is my turquoise count is low right now i really need to turquoise up a little bit just for some pop yeah just for some pop so he's born april 28th 1935 yeah so obviously an older gentleman here he's born in in Pinar del Rio, Cuba. Okay. So this is on the west end of Cuba. It's like all the way over toward the west side of Cuba. I found that Tony Olivia, the baseball player, is from there. And also Sendog from Cypress Hill.

No kidding? Yeah, the one who repeats everything that everyone else says. I knew that he was a Cuban guy, but I don't think I... Where he's from. I didn't even know that he was actually from Cuba. He's from this town actually that's where he was born so uh there's that he's the one who just repeats it's that guy who says tony olivia is from there he'd be like tony olivia from there okay it's the cuban cow boy he just shot some shit in the okay so i can just kill a man. Yeah.

That's what he'd do. Which is a great job. I want to hire him just to follow me around. See, this is what I need. We need to get very wealthy, James. Yeah. I want a fucking hype man for my... We need a bunch of TV shows. Yeah.

I just want a send dog to hang out with me, and when I go anywhere, just like, I get a Big Mac meal. Big Mac meal. So I want him to just say. Cheese, extra cheese. Cheese, extra cheese. What's extra cheese? I just want him to really just repeat everything.

Like, we'll hang out and be buddies, but that'll also pay him a good salary to do that. That's his job. That's a 401k right there. Well, I mean, like, you know, he's going to go do appearances and stuff. That's an appearance with me to repeat everything I say for a day. Just walk around to people. And when people are like, what the fuck? And look, I'm just going to be like, what?

I don't understand. And you know, when they get the order wrong, he's there to recite it back again. Like, this is what you did wrong. What did I order again? Speak back. Extra large fries. Like, okay, see? He said I ordered large fries.

My man told you. Did you hear? No grace on the button. I said it first, and then he repeated it and then you repeated it how did we get this wrong i think my daughter should be correct thank you send dog he agrees for your wonderful fucking seat your assistance this is what i mean this is why you're worth every penny you're the best in the business my friend so uh he from my order for anything anything. For everything.

Everything at all. Absolutely everything. That's what I want. I just want to pull up, you know, to the bank. I'm kind of doing it right now. Just deposit in the check. Deposit that check. Put it in the account. Be like, yeah, that's right.

40 cash back. 40 cash back. Vans buying weed. 40 cash back. I love it. so uh he is the eldest child of ramon ramos who was his father and sofia gara who was his mother and uh they were married had several kids here now uh little pete here as we want to call him he calls himself uh was known as pedrito oh Oh. He's little Pete, little Pedro. So he was born out there. He's born in, this is where the tobacco comes from in Cuba, this region.

Really? So everyone around here is all tobacco farming. Okay. This is where they're rolling cigars. This is where they're, and I'm going to stop everyone right now because everyone just went, hold on a second. Yeah. This is not a Bernard Below situation where I'm going to say a bunch of stereotypical shit and it's not true yeah it's all true this is all true i'm i'm nipping

this shit in the bud because the second i said this is where the cigars come from i could see jimmy like is he gonna say that he learned how to hit a baseball with a rolled up cigar or some shit like he just burned fat yeah he didn't have any food. He just smoked his... He got all his nutrition from cigars. He was suffocating in his lips. He just chewed on a wad of tobacco and it gave him nutrients through his first blood. This is all real. This is all real shit, actually, here.

So I just... Because I don't want people going, I don't know about this. What's the minute point that I got to fast forward to? Yeah, what's going on here? So he's actually born in... It's a very, very tiny, tiny village called Corojo. It's in the municipality of San Luis, which is inside of Pinar del Rio. So that's the bigger area.

But he's born in a tiny, tiny village in here among tobacco farms. So to go from there to an episode of this is already pretty impressive just to get out of that vat to have any sort of name to be talked about on a podcast where your crimes are uh storied that's what i mean or you just had any story really are you just a dude that lived near tobacco farms and then died right no one knew about it also there's a song called cuban pete remember the mask oh yeah yeah why didn't he go by Cuban Pete? That's not what the king of the rumba beat. They called him.

He was the Cuban cowboy. That's why I'm sure he could really get down to a rumba beat as well. I'm not going to put anything past the fucking guy. Let's be honest here. I mean, based on his attire and everything, I feel like he can get down on anything from there. That attire compared to what the mask was dressed close same thing it's the western version kind of a little more western yeah so now his father is a tobacco farmer and he is known as cold ramon ramon frias is what they call him his dad is cold Cold Ramon. Cold Ramon is his dad, yeah. Bad man, huh?

So that's kind of, yeah, they all, he's known as kind of a stern guy and a tough guy. He's a tobacco farming, you know, dude, I guess here. And his father also was a tobacco farmer. So, I mean, this is like going back and back here. Now, everybody knew him as Pedrito like i said little pedro and uh they he gets everybody notices that his athletic prowess at an early age because in addition to he's a pitcher in baseball which normally there that might not be an athlete really might just be you know i mean look at an arm look at david wells you don't go well that's an athlete you know what i mean like there's a lot of baseball players you'd look at who are great players

that don't exactly look like a specimen of Olympic proportion, whereas this guy, on the other hand, is one of the fastest guys in the majors as well. Really? He races like guys who lead the league in steals. Whenever they play the teams, he races and the teams all bet on it. They all bet each other over who's going to win. Pitcher that can steal?

And he always fucking wins. That's impressive. He's a pitcher that gets put in can steal. And he always fucking wins. That's impressive. He's a pitcher that gets put in as a pinch runner sometimes. No kidding. That's how fucking fast he is. Really, like literally one of the top five in the league in terms of speed. And he's got power when he hits, too. He just hits 155, so he can't hit for shit.

But he can pop the ball out every once in a while here. Now, he's got four siblings that come after him because he's the oldest like we said here three brothers and a younger sister ramona yeah it's ramon and ramona is he proud of himself he really is he really is too as a father loves himself here uh two of the younger brothers were all one of the younger brothers was also named ramon oh i'm sorry two what of them were named ramon Why would you name both of your... Okay. Two of his sons are named Ramon.

Wow. He has four sons, but two of them are named Ramon. It's not like George Ford when we just named them all George. Two are named Ramon. One's Pedro, and one is Cristobal. Because eventually you just go, fuck it. I don't know. Cristobal, maybe? By the fourth, he just went to the mother and go, you can name this one. This one is Cristobal because eventually you just go fuck it I don't know Cristobal maybe by the fourth he just went to the mother

and go you can name this one you can name him Gary Payton named one of his sons Gary Payton Jr Cristobal the other one is Gary Payton the second you can't do that that's not how it works and he would be by then at least the third

he's at least the third gary payton by that going on gary if he's yeah that's not great at all man stupid jesus christ uh one of the uh one of the younger ramones was named uh el gallego was his nickname i mean i don't know yeah he was a uh he was a pitcher in a first baseman and pretty good at it. And Chris the ball is the only ball player who doesn't play baseball. Really? And then the third one, other brother is named, the nickname they gave him was El Pitcher. Because he was a good pitcher. Yeah.

It's very creative. But the oldest is going to be the pitcher. No, this is the third sibling he is. He's like the middle child here. He is El Pitcher. But the oldest is the one that he is he's the third so he's like the middle child here he is l pitcher but the oldest is the one that's really going to do it yeah pedro is the one who's going to make it out of here pedro is a catcher and a pitcher growing up which is actually good because you get to kind of know from both sides how to call a game it helps you just you're all

in it but he's a decent hitter like we said um not really get a catcher on a pitcher catcher on a pitcher they rarely do that uh both wow good for you good for you wow you know what i like a guy with an open mind i mean whatever you're up for he's pitching he's catching so uh yeah he played on the scrub land okay see this is what i mean he played on on the kind of land, the kind of older tobacco fields that are all fucked out, I guess. They pulled all the nutrients out of them. Yeah, all fucked out would be the best way to put it. I don't know. Is that a good way to put it for farmland?

This land's a smidge sloppy. I know nothing about farming. Fucked out sounds good. I guess when the soil's done, it's fuck, all fucked out. It's all fucked out so when i guess when the soil's done it's fuck all fucked out it's all fucked out we can't ain't gonna be no more sorghum this year can't even turn it over anymore we gotta go real deep it's all fucked out boy i tell you what it's just uh it asked for a sandwich other than that said don't want nothing just fucked out just fucked out it's probably pretty appropriate that's who knows now he said they played on tobacco scrub lands with ball made with a stone lined with wire for stringing tobacco this is

true this is what happened this is true when you lie i cried wolf i cried wolf this is true though this is that story but real and And in Cuba instead of Belgium. But it is. This is absolutely real. I swear to God. I'm not going to say just kidding. Got you at the end of this shit. They actually made balls with a stone lined with tobacco wire and played in the tobacco scrub lands.

Like I said, it wouldn't be any more stereotypical if I said he had a giant cigar as his first bet that his dad made him or something. He like tempered the- His huge Cuban crank. He just used his dick. He just used it. They couldn't even find enough tobacco. Why are you wasting the tobacco?

We got to sell that. Use your dick. Use your dick. Don't break the giant cigars. Those are for the tourists. They love those. They put silly hats on, walk around with them. They fucking love a giant cigar.

It's like a huge whale boat in fucking New Orleans Street. What is that street? Bourbon. Bourbon, New Orleans Street. I don't know. You said that. I'm like, is that in a different city? Is that an attraction?

I don't know. Is that like in D.C.? Is there like a New Orleans Street I don't know about? Or like in Boston somewhere? Is that what I've met? I did, but you still confused me somehow. It's in D.C.? Is there like a New Orleans street I don't know about or like in Boston somewhere? Is that what I meant? I did, but you still confused me somehow. It's in Detroit. It's, you know, over there in Milwaukee.

So that's how he starts playing, like this. So if you can hit a stone lined with wire for stringing tobacco, a baseball probably looks great. It's probably easy. Probably super easy. Yeah, that's what I mean. The equipment that helps. He said, said quote i liked playing baseball since childhood i used to bunk off to play so uh now at that time he would go to school and after he got out of school his job was to sell cigarettes so that like most children basically this is like uh henry hill or something

this is goodfellas origin story i picture I picture him. Andrew, you got pinched. With the trunk. How many cottons do you need? No, it's okay. It's all right. How funny is that? They bust him and then he says, it's all right. It's all right. You don't get it. It's all right. How many do you need? How many cottons do you need? How many cottons do you need?

So good. Where'd you get these cigarettes? So, anyway. It's okay. It's okay.'s okay it's alright I love Tommy sneaking off around the car yeah Hendry got pinched that's my favorite line

Hendry got pinched selling cigarettes I can't get over it's okay to a cop it's so good it's okay it's so good

it's alright it's alright it's alright they're cuffing him no no don't worry about it no no you don't get it

try that next time that's alright anyone out there gets arrested next time you try no no's all right just try it it might work who knows you never know the guy might go oh all right i don't know that's cool no it's all right but he said my favorite part of that movie by the way good fellas because i just thought of it i honestly just thought of this last night actually it was like popped in my brain okay you know the scene obviously it's a very famous scene where they're all sitting around with tommy's mother

yeah and uh it's the middle of the night and they need a knife to stab billy batts or whatever so he gets the knife it's a hoof you know the hoof it's paw it's what is it the hoof yeah you gotta so anyway it's a sin yeah so i gotta leave it there so uh when they're all sitting around at dinner it's obviously one dog going one way one dog going the other way that's hilarious all that shit's hilarious but the fact that fact that he says, his mother says to him, why don't you find a nice girl? He goes, I find a nice one almost every night, Ma. She says, why don't you find a nice girl

and settle down? He goes, I settle down almost every night, but in the morning I'm free. I'm free. I'm going to marry you, Ma. I love you. And while he's doing this, which is hilarious,

but De Niro's sitting there and he totally like, he just goes, why don't you settle down? But dead serious, why don't you settle down? Come on. What's the matter with you? What's the matter with you? Like, listen to your mother here.

Like, you're here to get a knife, because you just, what the fuck are you talking about? You're chopping up a large man in your trunk. What are you talking about? Why don't you settle down? It's the least of his, why don't you settle down? Come on, what are you doing? I don't know why, that's my favorite.

He's so serious when he's, come on, why don't you settle down? He's committed an doing i don't know why that's my favorite he's so serious when he's come on he's committed an act that's gonna get him killed in a garage somewhere absolutely you're worried about this i just settled down what's wrong dead serious not even like breaking his balls like one of those just come on fuck so anyway yeah he's a man in the trunk in the driveway yeah just you Yeah, just starting to move around. Starting to fucking stir. So he would get off of school, Pedro, and sell cigarettes and coffee in a little box, I guess. He'd have this little stand. Oh, okay, got it.

And he'd sell cigarettes. I know it sounds, it's true. It's ridiculous. It's just true. I'm sorry. There's no waffles coming in. No, I swear to, it's true. It's ridiculous. It's just true. I'm sorry. There's no waffles coming in. No, I swear to God this is true. This would be to help out the household income. It was a very poor, very poor area here.

As he grew older, he ended up working the tobacco fields as well, as most of the kids did. But when he had any kind of free time, even he'd sneak off for a second from the fields to throw a fucking rock lined with fucking lining or whatever metal chicken wire chicken wire he'd practice because he just loved baseball he loved it he would listen when he was a kid on the radio he could pick up world series games so he said he listened to the yankees when he was a kid play and he listened to all these you know games when he was a kid listen to joe dimaggio and all that shit so he was really into baseball and really wanted to be in the American culture and baseball. To him, baseball represented the American culture.

And that's kind of the one little pinhole of anything that got to him was baseball. So to him, that represented everything that was America. So he's trying to filter everything that is America through this little pinhole that is baseball. Yeah, this little speaker that comes out that's the only connection he has to the whole thing. But he's trying to like, yeah. He's trying to absorb the whole thing through that. Yeah, and he really gets into it here. Now, he really gets good.

By the time he's an amateur, he is early teens we're talking about. He's in the Corojo Village Club on their baseball team and in the Provincial Free League in the early 50s. This is 14, 15. He's playing these games. Then for a club named La Opera that represented the province. And it was in the National Amateur Athletic Union League. So on the island, he was considered very, very good here. union league so on the island he was considered very very good here and then at 17 he is found by a scout uh papa joe cambria now these scouts back then boy shady now they're shady like back

then it doesn't even begin to describe how shady today and they've been set straight oh then it's like straight just against the law there's lots of laws against it and everything else. They're still doing it. But back then, I mean, plus the rules of how to scout and everything were different, too. Now there's a system of how they do it. But back then, you just go to the islands, and if you find someone, you sign them, and they're yours. And that's it. There's no any kind of drafting or any kind of even a purchase process, anything like that.

It's all been fucked out. It's all been fucked out it's all been fucked out just like the fields babe so 150 bonus he signs for wow 150 signing bonus 10 years of labor can you imagine that so that's that's crazy that's imagine a baseball player now and get signing 150 bucks yeah 150 bucks you'd be like and then what after I pay my phone bill, what am I going to do then? You'll give me $150 to have this conversation. How's that? Yeah, what are you talking about?

So I get that per cameo message. And nobody knows who I am. Yeah, not us, obviously. We wouldn't do cameos. No, that's not for me. No, I don't think so. Who am I? No, yeah.

What am I? A washed up sitcom star or something? No. We're trying to ascend, not descend. So in the ascent, you don't do shit like that. If you see us on there, you'll know we've made a mistake. Things have gone awry. That is where I apologize to each and every one of you individually for $40 at a time.

That's exactly how that works at that point. We've done something very wrong. We made a mistake at that point. We've done something and caused ourselves a great deal of discomfort. And I'd like

to tell you how sad I am about it. No shit. So they sign him and they're going to bring him to America, which he's never left the island of Cuba. So he's scared shitless and excited as fuck, too. He's only 17 when he comes here. It's 1953. Oh, think about that. America at that time.

Yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome. And also the Cubanism at this point was pretty cool right now. Well, this is I Love Lucy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, the 50s, it was cool, too, because, like, Cuba was, like, a huge American vacation spot, too. That was, like, you know, they'd go there, and you'd live it up and gamble and palm trees. And it would be this.

It's Miami with casinos down there, basically, is the way they looked at it. No American dumb laws. Yeah. So, that was a big spot in the 50s before Castro took over, obviously. And also, like I said, I Love Lucy was the biggest show on fucking television at that point in time. Desi was a huge star. So people were cool with Cubans. They were like, oh, yeah, like Desi.

They were fine with it. So it was a very weird racial time. Everybody else is. It was weird very strange america's always had a very weird like nitpicky thing with with race like this one's okay but not that one but then this one but not this one and then they change roles very strange yeah oh now this one's great now that one's not yeah it's it's so weird so just the acceptance of the blanket culture yeah it's bizarre cubans kind of got uh that was their sweet spot it was

their sweet spot the 50s yeah time to be cuban and then in the 60s too it was okay because people were like felt bad because of castro so anybody who hated castro we were like great you're anti communist you're on our side so that's kind of how that works so pitbull and we're like fuck them yeah you know what never mind we were okay Send Dog, and then you came along. Nobody knows what Dalai means. You? No? No?

Fuck this guy. That's what I thought. He's going to steal your girl. He says, quote, I first came to the United States in 1953. I was 17 years old. They put me on a plane to Key West, and then they put me on a bus for three days. Jesus Christ. What?

I get off in this small town and we start playing ball. And one day I say to someone in Spanish, so is this Texas? And they tell me, this is Tennessee. You didn't even know where the fuck he was. Wrong direction. Wrong direction. You had no idea. He went north, not west.

No clue where he was going. They just said, go get on this bus and go play ball wherever you get off of it. Three days. Three days. To go from Florida to Tennessee. An old shitty bus. Roads aren't as good back then and they stop constantly their own kind of bus that's what i mean one of those i'm sure it like broke down they had to push it up a hill at one point it's very hot in there hot yeah this is especially in fucking florida to tennessee

hanging your head out the window oh that place smells place smells like balls. Jesus. The whole bus reeks of balls. All your luggage on top. Oh, it's all fucked out. Probably. Buses all fucked out. Let me tell you. That one snuck up on me. Yeah, I know.

I could tell. In my head. I see him begging to go back to Cuba because they got nicer buses. And then in my head, I went, I bet he's going back to fucked out. That's right. Oh, yeah. I forgot. We said that.

That was very funny. That's the thing that we're saying now. That's what my kid's going to ask me for seconds tonight at dinner. And I'm going to go, I don't know, son. It's all fucked out. All fucked out, son. See this plate? It's empty. It's all fucked out all fucked out son see this plate it's empty it's all fucked out tell your kids you should always everybody out there tell your kids whenever they want more of something that isn't there just tell them it's all fucked out

just to see what they what you know ah that's great i mean well i was gonna say if they're older but honestly even if they're young because they won't know what it means. So who cares? Maybe not from like eight to 10, because they'll just repeat it all over the place. But after that, they'll get it. I don't know. Kids now know what it means. Mine are nine and 11. Oh, perfect. I say horrible shit.

Go ahead. They're in the sweet spot. It's fine. Their mother says worse. Yeah. So he's been told this is Tennessee. He says, quote, I eat at the Rainbow Cafe every day. I order the same thing, pork chops.

I haven't eaten a pork chop in 28 years because that's an interview from later on. So he ate pork chops every day and then never ate them again because he fucking hated that he had to eat them every goddamn day. They're all fucked out. They're all fucked out on those pork chops. I don't know, too, if like that was a lot of times that'll be the only thing he knows how to order. Sometimes that'll happen where I've heard of that a lot. Spanish guys will come over and literally eat the same thing. And they're like, why do you always eat the same thing?

And they'll be like, I don't know how to say anything. I don't want to try anything else either because I don't know if I'm going to like it. Or they would just get whatever whoever they were with would get. Somebody would order something and they'd just go, I'll take that take that too and they didn't know what they were getting though because they didn't fucking speak english when it shows up yeah that's what i mean so that was a but at least it's not a pork chop yeah it's not gonna be a pork chop so that happened a lot apparently back then and uh the other thing too with cubans in baseball there's a weird blurry color line in baseball with cubans because obviously blacks weren't allowed to play until

jackie robinson they were allowed to play black people were allowed to play in the late 1800s in their own league no they had in the major leagues oh really they were yeah there was blacks in the major league until fuck i mean black people until maybe i think 1910 or maybe 1900 i know cap anson had a lot to do with it because he was an asshole but uh yeah there was there was guys in there and then it became uh the there was a new league the american league came in before a different american league in 1915 i think or something and their whole thing was to uh was they were to look trying to get ethnic people to come to the games and things like that they had a different atmosphere in the games and so then it changed so then the america the other the major league here

decided to not let anybody like that in and keep it super white so they could differentiate themselves it's very fucking weird but cubans were always this strange like if you yeah it would dependent on your skin tone that was the thing yeah depending on your skin tone if you could fly or not with it and uh they would yeah it's a weird thing and even some minor league teams back in the day would get black guys and say they were cuban really if they found a light-skinned black guy that could play ball they they'd say you you fucking anybody says anything to you you say this phrase this phrase if that doesn't line up you say no comprende that's it motherfucker that's all you know

literally they would send them around yeah that's fucking awful they'd be going around the south saying no comprende just because they'd be like what so that that happened a lot fucking that was a thing that happened it was a it was really shitty like convincing as as brad pitt in inglorious bastards yeah exactly yeah that's what i mean it's it's it's fucking complicated it sucked back then to for all that shit so and even in the 50s when black guys were allowed to play it was still like there wasn't just you know it wasn't like an equal playing field it was every team would have like one or two really good black. If you were a top-tier star, but there was no bench guys who were black guys in the 50s.

That still put up with so much shit. Oh, a lot of shit. Oh, boy. I mean, you couldn't be a marginal player and be a black player back then. That didn't exist. Those guys were white guys. If you were a superstar, if you were Willie Mays or hank aaron or something that's a different story but you couldn't just be like a 220 hitting middle infielder who's a you know good with the glove that's near you're out so it was very strange

that's horrific and then some teams waited a long time i mean the red sox didn't have a black player until 61 i think or 60 right fuck yeah the real boston was a pretty racist city back then and but i mean they didn't have a fucking black player. Yeah, I think it was 1960. Jesus. I think the Yankees waited until Elston Howard, even, and that's New York. So, who knows? Good Lord. Yeah.

So, he says, quote, the first town I went to was Morristown, Tennessee, in the Mountain States League. At that time, I could hardly speak English. I don't understand nothing in English then. Well, good news for you. They don't speak it either. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Whatever they're speaking, that ain't English. Hey, don't worry about it.

Forget about it. He says, I thought when they signed me, I was going to Texas. When I got to Morristown, I asked one of the Spanish-speaking guys, and there's that again. There's another one. He says, I thought I was in Texas. All I know is they fly me to Key West and put me in a bus, and I ride for about three days with five dollars in my pocket, which sounds crazy. He says, quote, By 1955, I was with the Washington senators and I went to Western movies and wore Western clothes. That's when he got here.

Got in the 50s. Cowboy shit was huge. It was like, look at the TV ratings in the 50s and 60s. It's all fucking cowboy shows it's it fucking lone ranger and movies too it's all john wayne movies and those fucking whatever the hell bullshit movies god awful yeah so he loved it he says quote i used to go see the same movie three or four times to help me understand english which makes sense i guess which I would imagine if I was an immigrant in this country, I would put subtitles on and watch TV.

Yeah. Today? Oh, God, yes. Yeah, which really you don't have to teach your kids to read, by the way. Netflix is a great fucking... There's a hint for you. Subtitles. Is that not reading a story?

Yeah. And fast. You know, read-along books? What's that? You only got time to read so much. You read as someone else reads it. So there you go. Teach your kids to read like that. Brilliant. not serious no you probably could but i i did

there's probably there's probably something for actually uh interacting with your child but if you have no time just throw something on fuck that but like to have them put like mad men on with the with the subtitles they'll learn a lot they're like the wire give them the wire with subtitles i think you'll be amazed at the things that he says he or she so um he said quote they were cowboy movies one day clint courtney who used to be our catcher he took me in kansas city to a western store and there i bought some western clothes hats and pants and boots everything except the guns they started calling calling me the Cuban cowboy. So this is when it happened right away.

1955. I don't know if the guy thought it was funny to dress this guy up like that. That's why he took him there. Like, come on. I think it is. Hey, you know what? Let's take him to the Western store. Everything.

He's a Cuban cowboy. Look at him. They put holsters on this guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everything but the guns. Oh, he ended up getting the guns. Don't worry. He is Pistola. Look at him. They put holsters on this guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everything but the guns. Oh, he ended up getting the guns. Don't worry.

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And in our latest season, Taylor Swift will shake up not only the music business, but Hollywood and the NFL. Follow business wars wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. He says my career in baseball, I guess I did play more or less like any other ballplayer. Go out with the girls and have a few drinks but i never thought i was in any kind of trouble if i would have stayed in cuba who knows what i might have become true probably way worse like whatever your dad was i would assume if you stayed there at that time unless you run fucking and not want to do

that you know yeah who knows you have to go somewhere else. In that town, it was tobacco or nothing. Tobacco or breaking the law. That was it. So he was, like I said, he's one of a lot of signings of Cuban ballplayers from this time period. They were scouting the Cuban island very hardcore. Cuba had a tradition of producing amazing ballplayers. Baseball was around in Cuba pretty much as long as it's been here. It's very as ingrained in their culture as it is in ours so it's it's that sort of thing in cuba so ballplayers there it's not

like other countries where they just learned it like it's ingrained their dad played their dad's dad played i mean fucking castro was a ballplayer you know what i'm saying yeah castro was a ball player he loved it absolutely he wanted to when they did some some baseball game i don't remember when it was like 1970 or so they did some ball game with uh u.s players went to play cuban all stars in cuba to try to like some diplomatic thing basically castro wanted to play in the game yeah and they ended up he wanted to play in the fucking game yeah but they were like all the americans were like no because I'm not pitching to this guy because if one slips out of my hand, I fucking plunk him.

I'm going to be executed down there. That's what I mean. He's like, I don't want not a good idea. So that's how that went. So, yeah, he said that this was, you know, he was one of these guys. And there's a lot of these guys, too. There was a few of these guys we'll talk about that came up with him that he kind of knew of from the island now he is in tennessee knowing no fucking english whatsoever and he goes seven and six with a 6.26 era in 138 innings which is fine for a 17 year

old kid who doesn't even know what state he's in it's fine for a child playing in the actual baseball league and literally they bring them over and they don't know like they just want to usually american kids your rookie ball league they don't really care just it's like you're away from home now just to show you that this guy's in another country and another you know he's eating pork chops every day yeah he's all fucked out he's got a lot going on the runs got the runs so 54 he ends up in uh playing for the hagerstown packets oh boy he before that it was the morristown red socks and the kingsport cherokees and the hagerstown packets he's got a 510 era in 1954 at fucking 18 years old getting better getting better 1955 he gets brought up to the washington senators wow which you would think

that seems early a little but the senators are fucking terrible oh they are traditionally one of the worst teams in baseball where did they end up going washington minnesota and then they we'll talk about it don't worry because it's it's really weird they literally left and then got another team of the same name the same year get Get out of here. It's fucking weird. Yeah. For some reason, the league really wants Washington to work as a place for baseball, even though it just doesn't fucking work. Clearly. I don't know about now, but then. But the old the old fashioned or what they always said about Washington for 50 years, the Washington senators was Washington first first in war first in peace and last in the american league that's literally their known thing like you know completely useless by september

that's their fucking slogan hilarious so the 55 washington senators are no different from the rest of their franchise here they're 53 and 101 as a team which which is not good. That's awful. That's awful. Eighth in the American League. Their owner, the guy who the stadium's named after, Calvin Griffith, is their goddamn general manager. So that tells you a lot right there. Owner, general manager, namesake of the stadium. Yeah, which is most of the teams back then used to be like that.

Yeah, the owner, the stadium's named after the owner because he built it to stadium. And they're going to run their own fucking club this was before that became like an expertise thing of baseball you know what i mean baseball general manager is an expertise thing especially now that there's the salaries the way they are there's a cap you have to work with it's it's a lot of math to be that proud of yourself yeah that's fuck it's wild so that's what happened a lot these guys were the you know captains of industry damn it i guess that makes sense too because it's before uh sponsorship so you're not getting any money from the name no stadium anyway you name after yourself give it to yourself absolutely everybody did that's everybody every fucking stadium was either named after the team yeah the city or yourself that was it no nothing else so uh this

team i mean i'm looking at it looking for like you know who's some hall of famers or some famous guys and it is really bleak nothing yeah a couple guys one guy named specs which is hilarious back then very 50s nickname and uh camilo pascal who was also uh a cuban guy who was on this and they're they're talked about very much kind of in the same line. They came up around the same time. So Pedro that year, he, uh, he comes up and,

he's, he's relief pitching at this point. He will be a starter later, but he's a relief pitcher. And, uh, he says after he came up, quote,

manager Chuck Dressen has changed my pitching style. He says, uh, he's made me over. So I throw the change up. I guess I'm a lot better than i was a year ago and my fastball is going good he throws like 98 miles an hour too he's a fucking blazing fastball this guy as an athlete he's a specimen i mean throws 98 runs his ass off

it's pretty pretty fucking impressive here uh he uh but he comes in a bunch he says quote only bob turley and herb score are as fast as Ramos. This is the manager. And I like this boy's control. I wouldn't trade Ramos for five Porterfields because they were comparing him to some other young pitcher. Got it. Wouldn't trade him for five of that guy. So, yeah, only those guys are as fast as Ramos.

So he's saying, this manager says he's the third fastest in the league as far as he knows pitching. So this year, he throws 130 innings. He has a.388 ERA. Getting much better. Which is great. He's 5-11. His wins and losses, don't even look at those because he plays for terrible teams. And he leads the league in losses every year just because he's out there.

Statistically, he's got the same amount of wins and losses as the entire team you know what i mean that's i mean percentage wise so he's doing it right back then you throw complete games and if you you know lost two one it's like you guys got to score more than fucking one run here i'm doing i'm doing all i can yeah i mean i pitched nine innings that's what i mean that's what that's a tough luck loss right there that says loss on your on your stat sheet but it's like a piece of shit yeah you guys can't hit the fucking embarrassing me send dog tell them embarrassing my man brought him up from cuba eventually send dogs like it's exhausting i can't say the same thing every night they're embarrassing it's embarrassed the whole thing's embarrassing so uh his personality

really comes out at this point with the whole Wild West shit and all his cowboy gear. And he's also very handsome and good with the ladies and a smooth talker. And, you know, one of those kind of guys, kind of a continental kind of cat. Everybody likes him in a cowboy uniform here. It's so fucking weird, though, that he's got this cowboy outfit is and a spanish accent it's just odd i can't love it enough yeah he liked uh he liked the black cowboy outfit yeah it was his favorite he liked the whole black with the different things here johnny denaro lace lace trim black cowboy duds as somebody called him here uh which is fucking

interesting his idols were the lone r Ranger and Hopalong Cassidy. Yeah. That's who he loved. And Mickey Mantle. Those were his three idols. Mix them all together. Mix them together. Here I am.

You carry always from fucking Princess Bride. Perfect. So, 56, this is his first full year. He gives up, on May 30th,th 1956 the most famous home run of mickey mantles career he gives up a lot of home runs too because he throws hard so it's one of those if you just get a bat on it it's gonna go yeah and uh he's known to get it up in the zone a little bit too much sometimes and that's a that's a problem he hits mickey mantles hit hits 12 career home runs off this guy i think it's the most he hit off any pitcher, if I'm not mistaken.

Maybe he likes Mickey so much he just serves one up for him. Well, yeah, it's possible, man. So he hits this home run off. It's in right center field off the facade. You know the facade of Yankee Stadium at the top, that white shit that goes around it? He hit, they said it was like 10 inches from going out of Yankee Stadium. Awesome.

Hit off the facade up there. And everybody everybody says who knows how true it is but everybody says it was still on the rise at that point so we don't know it's still going basically it wasn't it wasn't fallen definitely it was a like a liner kind of a home run just with it was one of those few feet it had gone another 10 inches they said it was going over the facade so they were uh yeah it's very famous home run this giant thing. If you look it up, there's diagrams of where it hit and how far it would have went. Really? Oh, people have made a science out of this home run.

It's fucking insane. Because it was a shot. Was there a doink, like a dent up there that was there for a long time? I don't remember if it's a dent or what, but you can see up, I mean, it's fucking far. It's a shot, man. It's a fucking shot they should have had him sign that well yeah well then they destroyed it in the 70s and then destroyed the destroyed one again so and uh this was uh yeah up in the top deck of right field and he always

wanted to race mickey mantle because mickey mantle back in the day in the 50s before his knees really were dead and he was bloated on alcohol and shit was one of the fastest guys in the majors oh he was a specimen before in his rookie year when he blew his knee out on the drainage pipe in center field there right um before that he was literally like the fastest guy in the league that's people they were just as excited as his about his speed as his fucking power he was a switch hitting powerhouse with most amazing speed he was like the greatest uh prospect ever at that point they were looking at and uh then he blew his knees out drank too much and then whatever see him with a big fat ass yeah see that guy running well it's

no that's that's like a ricky henderson big fat ass though that's like uh muscle is in that ass that's why he's getting speed that's thoroughbred ass yeah that's what that is yeah that's like uh muscle is in that ass that's why he's getting speed that's thoroughbred ass yeah that's what that is yeah that's like when you see ricky henderson hunkered down stealing the base you're like jesus christ his fuck how does he walk his thighs rubbed together fucking monstrous thighs on that guy jesus so uh yeah he wanted to race mickey mantel mickey mantel always said first of all um i got nothing to gain by this. I'll just look like a dipshit that lost to some schmuck rookie. And number two, I'm not going to go get hurt running the fuck. My knees are fucked up.

I'm not going to fuck them up worse racing you. So that never happened. Ted Williams, he loved. He said that he was told one time to brush back Ted Williams, and he refused to do it. Really? And his teammate called him a yellow Cuban. Wow. And he said, I'm not yellow, but williams i'm not going to brush back ted williams he's a very cowboy uh coward name that's what i mean yellow cuban right what are you yellow what are you yellow it's the 50s

people actually said that to each other dead ass serious so uh ted williams here the story we don't know it's like a legendary story so who knows how true it is. But there's definitely one time here where he struck out Ted Williams and was so excited about it, he got the ball and rolled it into the dugout to keep so he could get it signed by Ted Williams later. Really? So he did. Yeah, he signed it. After the game, he said, I signed my ball and I struck you out on it.

And he said, all right, give me the goddamn ball and I'll sign it. That's awesome. Little bastard, yeah. So he gave him it. After the game, he said, I signed my ball, and I struck you out on it. And he said, all right, give me the goddamn ball, and I'll sign it. That's awesome. Little bastard, yeah. So he gave him it, and then apparently a couple weeks later, they were playing. And again, another Red Sox, whoever, Washington game. And Williams hit a fucking bomb off of him. He said, as he was going up first base, he said, if you can find that son of a bitch, I'll sign that one, too. Which is fucking hilarious.

Ted was a dick. Ted was hilarious. He's a crazy, arrogant, lunatic bastard. He's great. He's awesome. He used to, Jim Bouton told stories in Ball 4 about how he used to take batting practice, Ted Williams. Yeah.

Because they have BP before the gates open. People watch batting practice, but there's private ones before that plenty before that plenty ted williams goes out and he would go out and fucking yell and scream while he's hitting they throw him a pitch and he'd be yelling i'm ted fucking williams hitting the ball i'm the greatest fucking hitter in the motherfucking world and oh limp dick motherfucker can get me the fuck out no swinging cocksucker is going to get ted fucking williams out of this fucking goddamn game i'm the best fucking hitter in the fucking planet and he's ripping he'd do that for 20 minutes just rip it fucking line drives as he screamed never shutting the fucking ted fucking williams know the fuck i am you take that weak bullshit out of this motherfucker

that was the way he got himself jacked up i'll bet he's still doing that. Talking shit for 20 minutes. Welded to a star-kissed hand. I'm sure he is. In Scottsdale, right? Yeah. He probably is. Brad smells like somebody's tuna fish lunch. That's what I'd like this thing next to him. Just, I'm Ted fucking Williams. And the mouth just going. I'm Ted fucking Williams.

That's the kind of guy he was. Awesome. He's a crazy guy. He went to war twice. Did he really? Twice. World War II. Yeah. And then he goes, I'll go back for Korea. What the fuck? How about that? because awesome's a crazy guy he went to war twice did he really twice world war ii yeah and he goes i'll go back for korea what the fuck went because he's a pilot he was a pilot yeah so he

went back i'll do some more bombing and he did bombing runs he didn't go and like play on the fucking uso team baseball team he was doing fucking fighter pilot shit which is crazy twice so when you look at his numbers remember went to war twice also back-to-back hero yeah pretty wild shit there so uh anyway uh that's that's a good little story there anyway uh 56 his era is a little worse 5.27 he has a 12 and 10 record so that's good 152 innings he's always an inning eater pedro ramos always eating innings He's a guy who really just... Goes a long distance. He can take the load. Yeah, he's never tired. Okay.

He can take it, Jimmy. He's all fucked out. He's never fucked out. Pitcher and a catcher. He can always take the load, Jimmy, because he's a pitcher and a catcher. So he's never fucked out. Right. He takes loads.

It's perfect. He can handle it. Good fuck. So, uh... 1957 Washington season. They're're terrible they win like 55 games every year they're fucking awful he pitches 231 innings this year which is a pretty hefty amount 479 era 12 and 16 um loves mickey mantle uh loves mickey mantle he says quote there was this time there was the time he got mad at me because they order me to knock

him down and to hit him. He said, that's the way we used to play. Today, it's a little more Mickey Mouse. That was a Saturday. Sunday, during batting practice, he saw me running and he said, you hit me. I said, well, Mickey, your pitcher was knocking my guys down and they were scaring my horses.

He's using cowboy terminology. They're scaring my horses, Mick. cow he's using like cowboy terminology they're scaring my horses mick they're like aren't you from cuba what the fuck are you talking about uh quote so i got ordered to stop that by knocking down the bad horse on the other side uh-huh he talks like right he's like on bonanza what in tarnation the fuck are you talking about listen hoss let me ask you something what the shit uh so pete says quote he said don't worry pete i'm gonna bunt one ball back to first base and when you cover the first base i'm gonna open your chest like a fucking fish oh my god i said well mickey you'll

get a base hit because i ain't gonna be there that's what guys used to do back in the day that's a horrifying threat that was just what they used to do though that back in the day that's a horrifying threat that was just what they used to do though that back in the day if a guy was being a little too cute brushing you back as a hitter you have no recourse other than hitting a home run but you have no like i can't hurt you physically the only thing you can do is bunt the ball in a place where the pitcher's got to pick it up which is right up the first baseline where you pass him and as you do you fucking blast him and that's what the guys used to do a lot open your chest like a trout like a trout unbelievable that's how uh but that's how

the guys used to get retaliation back in the day was to do that and they blast the pitcher so the pitcher if he knew that he was doing that he might just give up the hit and kind of be a little slow to get to that ball that's a brave fucking motion though because if you do that then the next guy's like i'm doing the same thing. We'll all keep doing this all day with base hits and drop them in. That's what I mean. You could do that, but then also he'll just hit you instead. Well, if you're going to take first anyway, I'll just plunk you.

And that's what I mean. We go back and forth forever on it. Eventually, somebody's going to get drilled here. Eventually, someone's going to try to throw strikes and play a baseball game because it's not over till outs happen. That's the thing. You can have all the walks and runs and hits and hit batsmen. We're all going to just to throw strikes and play a baseball game because it's not over till outs happen that's the thing you could have all the walks and runs and hits and batsmen we're all gonna just walk around these bases it's not like football where it's just gonna go to the clock

runs out this is someone's got to be out right 27 times on both fucking teams or 24 and 27 anyway so uh the 1958 senators 61 and 93 their manager's name is Cookie Lavaghetto, which is fantastic. Sounds like a dessert. Cookie. Yeah. That's great. It's a fat old guinea right there. Cookie Lavaghetto.

Can I interest you guys in a Cookie Lavaghetto? Hey, I got cookie. It's a Lavaghetto cookie. It's very nice. It's got the cream on the inside. You're going to like it. Sounds like one with chocolate overflowing. Yeah.

It sounds like when you go to an Italian bakery and you order shit. I'll get the Sfogliatelle. I'm going to get this. I'm going to get the Lavaghetto. I'm going to get one of these. You're going to get the cookie Lavaghetto? Let me get three cannolis and a Lavaghetto. All right.

Thank you. Very good. Perfect. So, yeah, they're a terrible team. By the way, they're dead last in the league in both their standings and attendance as well they only draw 475 000 fans in fucking 81 games for the season for the season which is just terrible that is just god awful wow awful awful awful apparently also this uh stadium was in a really shitty neighborhood as well. That was pretty

frightening to go to, from what I understand. So 1958 season, he leads the league, Pedro does, in losses, which is not really what you want to do. Leads the league in losses, earned runs, and home runs allowed. So that's not terrific. He has a.423 ERA.

He throws 259 innings, so he's just out there a lot, man. Taking the load. 277 hits. He's 14 and 18. Gives up 38 home runs that year, which is a lot. 58, he does this a few times. Goes down to play in the Cuban Winter League.

Really? Yeah, he likes to go down there and play in the winter. Throw a shove on it? Yeah, just hang out. A lot of guys like to do that, especially the Cuban guys. That's where they're from. Yeah, down there, he's there and play in the winter. Throw a shove on him? Yeah, just hang out. A lot of guys like to do that, especially the Cuban guys. That's where they're from. Yeah, down there he's 6-13 in 190 innings. You'd never let a pitcher down.

A young prospect will throw 190 innings over the winter. Head on back down there where you can disappear. Yeah, well, Jesus, it's just that many innings. That's a fucking season's worth of innings. You just ruin your arm. Or you work yourself to death over the next three months. Yeah, one of the two three months fuck yeah so 1959 back with washington uh spring training is a conversation with a reporter and uh he says that at this point the reporter had heard that the yankees were trying to trade for him so he said there'd been some some talk about it and he knew it pedro knew about it

so he said this is the reporter talking when he spotted me in the senator's clubhouse he asked about the seriousness of the reported stangle effort that's casey stangle manager of the yankees to trade for him i replied pedro don't get me involved in this i know no more about it than you do but i did hear casey say that he didn't like your habit of pitching gopher balls which are home runs um and Ramos said, quote, Ah, yes, those home runs. Let me tell you something for sure. If I am with the Yankees, they pay me enough salary. So I tell the Cuban League goodbye, boys. You can get along without me.

If I do not pitch in the Cuban League, I do not get tired like all us Cubans do around July 4th. So I'll go down there and pitch a whole season. They're pitching two seasons a year. You can't throw 400 innings a year and a calendar year that's insane on your fucking arm uh he says i am fresh to the end of the american league season and i win with a club like the yankees 20 games so he's saying you put me there i'll stop playing cuban league and i'll win 20 games with the yankees go ahead and tell casey stangle that that's a great pitch. Not a bad pitch to the media there. So he told Pedro, he said that he agreed with him and that the Cuban League season

definitely took a lot out of the major leaguers and hurt their records, especially the pitchers. And apparently the Yankees, the Senators wanted a lot for Pedro to go to the Yankees and the Yankees wouldn't pay what they wanted. They wanted a shitload of money. Griffith was a very cheap son of a bitch.

He was known for it. He would get cheap things and then sell them expensive? He was just cheap. He just wouldn't pay money, basically. Oh, okay, got it. Yeah, he was cheap. If I had it, it's worth a lot. If you have it, it's worth nothing.

I'm cheap. So that's kind of why nobody wanted to play for him and why his team won 60 fucking games a year. Yeah. Because he's cheap as shit. So, yeah, and apparently now, so 59 that season, old Cookie Lavaghetto's back at the helm here. He goes 13 and 19, leads the league in losses again. 4-16 ERA, not too bad, but 233 innings, gives up 30 home runs.

Yeah, he's having a hard time. But he does make the all-star team that year. Really? He's an all-star baby yeah that year all-star 416 if he had a good first half yeah because you don't look at losses like i said you look at era they look at shit like that and he is an all-star this for some reason this year they had two all-star games they had a game in july and then a game in august why would you do that i don't know why the fuck they did that.

I think it was to have one, they had them in each coast, because this is right after baseball had moved to California. This was after the Dodgers and Giants moved. So if you had, I think they were trying to kind of bring all the All-Stars there, but still have the traditional back East game. Because the first game was played in Pittsburgh in July, then the second one is played at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. So totally different deal here in August.

Some of these, this is crazy. Some of the people on these teams here, I'll just read the lineup and you can count the fucking Hall of Famers. It's just Cooperstown. It's Jerry Walker, Yogi Berra, Pete Runnels, Nelly Fox, Hall of Famer, Frank Malzone, Luis Aparicio, Mickey Mantle, Roger Marris, and Ted Williams. How about that for an outfield? Mickey Mantle, Roger Marris, and Ted Williams.

It's not a bad fucking outfield. You got all their baseball cards. You're retired. Holy shit. Hoyt Wilhelm, early win back there. The reserves, the bench players for the American League. Elston Howard, fucking Bobby Richardson, Harmon Killebrew, Tony Kubek, Rocky Calavito, Al Kaline, Minnie Minoso.

These are Hall of fucking Famers on the bench. National League, Don Drysdale, Stan Musial, Ken Boyer, Ernie Banks, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays. Awesome. Holy fuck. Banks, Aaron, and Mays are in the same lineup, for Christ's sake. Holy shit.

That's incredible, man. Fucking A to pitch to johnny antonelli oh hey john a vinegar bend mizzle who the fuck is there's a man who made this team all-star all-star named vinegar bend mizzle bend bend b And Warren spawn. I don't believe you. Vinegar. Yep. Bend, mizzle.

It's there. Tell me about his rose racket. No shit. Yeah. Tulips is tulips. I'm dead serious. The, the reserves,

Orlando Cepeda, Frank Robinson, Maserati, Maserati, Eddie Matthews, hall of fame, hall of fame, hall of fame, hall of fame. It's fucking crazy, man. So, uh, he Mazeroski, Eddie Matthews. Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame.

Fucking crazy, man. So he likes hitting, and they always make fun of him because he hits a buck 50. But he hits home runs sometimes, so he tells everyone he's a great hitter. And they're like, no, no, you hit 150. You're a shit hitter. You're just fast. No, no, you don't hit at all. No, he swings like crazy.

At one point, he struck out on pitches outside the strike zone eight straight times. Eight straight times. Struck out swinging on a bad pitch. Struck out balls. Eight straight fucking appearances. That's bad. Bad stuff. But he also was a good, like I said, they would pinch run him because he was such a fucking good runner, basically.

So that's rare, by the way. You don't really see that often. they would pinch run him because he was such a fucking good runner, basically. So that's rare, by the way. You don't really see that often, a pitcher to get brought in to pinch run, usually for injury purposes. They don't want him doing any of that shit. I don't think I've ever seen it. Yeah. In 1959, he raced Richie Ashburn of the Phillies, who is considered one of the fastest guys in the league.

He beat him by eight yards on a 70-yard outfield course. He fucking smoked him. That's fast. Yeah, apparently all the players had all bet on it with each other. It was a big wager thing of the day. So he's also fucking crazy. He's never there. His roommate says he's always out carousing.

Carousing. They said, I room with a suitcase, the one guy says quote i was pedro's roommate in washington and minnesota i did not see him that much he said that uh he said that he heard babe roots former roommate said that he roomed with the babe's suitcase and this guy said that was me and i roomed with dave boswell crazy kid pedro i roomed with two suitcases. That's awesome. So, yeah, just suitcases. 1960, he's accused of throwing a spitball. Spitball. You know, put some shit on it.

You can do it. You can sit up. Yeah, that was outlawed in like the late 40s, the spitball. But he's doing it. A lot of guys did it up until like the 70s. That was a really common thing. Yeah. Gaylord Perry used to do it. Then they brought it in.

That's when you'd see like, remember Major League? They got all the shit all over them. Guys used to do it then they brought in that's when you'd see like remember major league the guy all shit all over him guys used to do that a lot back then that was a guy yeah that's okay exactly so uh yeah they he called it the cuban palm ball gross they were like well what pitch is that's the cuban palm ball it's a special literally would say it's a special cuban palm ball and only cubans can throw that's why you think it's a spitball like no it's a spitball motherfucker yeah so uh he's white the white socks managers pissed at him he said why aren't they throwing him out of the game for this he said quote everybody will be throwing them if nobody stops this guy there he said that the this one pitch broke about a foot he goes this is ridiculous pitches don't break like that uh he says quote i don't bring i don't blame the

pitchers for trying to throw the spitter. I blame the umpires for letting them get away with it. Right. This manager. He says that the pitch was really good. He said, quote, but it was a dandy like the ones they used to throw in the old days. Lopez said that Ramos wets his fingers and feigns wiping them on his uniform. It doesn't actually wipe them off here.

Yeah, he'll do one of It doesn't actually wipe them off here. Wipe his wrists. Yeah, he'll do one of those and not actually wipe them off. He says what he actually does is he lifts the fingers so they don't touch his uniform. He says that they should get other umpires to watch. He says, quote, it should be the job of the umpires at first and third bases to watch the pitcher. They don't have anything else better to do. That's disgusting. What?

I can't believe that's a thing. Spitball? Ugh. Yeah. That's so vile. To just unload everything into your fucking hand and then... You only need a little bit. Really? Yeah, just a little bit.

Any little something, a speck of dirt will fucking change the trajectory of the ball, especially if you know what you're doing. Elston Howard, with the Yankees, used to do a thing with Whitey Ford, where he would, as he would throw it back, he'd hit the ball on the ground. He hit the ball on the ground, just give it a little scuff, just a little scuff. We'd scrape it on the ground as he did it. You know, like when you do that as you're catching from your knees, throw it back and

he'd throw it. And eventually other teams got wise to it and started noticing him doing it. So they said stop. So then he would do a thing where he would sharpen the metal on one of his uh shin protectors on the side one of the class he would sharpen it so he'd take the ball and just gouge it into that real quick and throw it back to whitey ford he'd have a fucking cut in the ball to use on it but he'd just wipe it by that thing he had it all sharpened up like a razor so he could fucking cut the ball for him that's wild yeah it's just trying to win

that's what guys did so if you're not cheating you're not trying was the old baseball thing back then especially with pitching it still happens as it does so july 20th 1960 is his biggest day ever he almost throws a no-hitter really has a great day against detroit uh wonderful but finally in the eighth inning rocky calavito hits a ball up the middle off him that's just out of the reach of the shortstop. God damn it. Yeah, it was tough, man. It was the first pitch of the inning. And Ramos said it was, quote, a 100% fastball, but it was just a little higher than I wanted it.

So he said, quote, he could have had it, but it took another long leap instead of a short hop about the fielder. Gave one of those. Oh, okay. Yeah leap instead of a short hop about the fielder gave one of those yeah gave like it took a bad hop basically he says if a guy and the manager of detroit said quote if a guy ever deserves a no hitter this guy did they ended up winning five nothing ramos there uh he was very excited he says uh they said that he uh he didn't pretend to be unaware basically a lot of players will say like i, I didn't even know I had an O-hitter. Really? They'll say, like, yeah, come on.

You didn't notice when you went in the dugout no one would talk to you? Did you notice that? That you were sitting by yourself and no one would talk to you? They don't want to fuck it up for you? Yeah. Some guys hate that, too,

if they're throwing something. They're like, no, talk to me. I need to act like this is normal. Tell me I'm great. Yeah, don't fuck my rhythm up here. Tell me, yeah, some guys would ask to do that. I think it was David Cohn. I can't remember.

One of the Yankee perfect games. It was like, stop sitting down there. Don't do it. I know what I'm doing. Fucking come over here and talk to me and be cool. You're making me more nervous. Keep me mellow or I'm going to serve one up and we're going to lose this shit. We're fucking losing.

He says, quote, I knew it all the time. He says, how can one not know it? No shit. When Calavito gets the hit, hit i figure so he gets a hit so now i have to win the ball game he said uh in a way it's a good thing you get a little bit of money for a no hitter because the teams will usually give you a little bonus or something but you get a lot if you win 20 games i would rather win 20 games there you go he's like let's win 20 and get a good salary here uh he says uh i don't know what it is but something seems to

happen to pitchers who pitch no hitters they just seem to go don't know what it is but something seems to happen to pitchers who pitch no hitters they just seem to go poof it's it is a weird thing no hitters have a very strange way of uh making a pitcher go away for some reason he's that's true it's true not perfect games but no hitters perfect games a lot of them are thrown by legends but kofax and catfish hunter and guys like that but but no hitters get thrown except for nolan ryan through seven of them just happens to be just happens to be nolan ryan yeah after the game he said i feel so good now i could go and pitch nine more innings i never threw so good in my life i was strong all the way and uh the manager rocky calavito tiger second baseman said

quote pedro's pitching in this game rates with the best stuff I've ever seen. So at that point, too, he knows Richard Nixon at this point. Why? Don't know. I guess because he plays in Washington. Nixon's the vice president. He was Eisenhower's vice president. So he says, quote, when he was vice president, I was already playing for Washington.

He says, for some reason or other, one day I say hello to him, and every time, because Nixon used to go to the games, and every time that he'd come to the ballpark, he'd say hello, too. In 1959, I pitched the opener, and he sent me a telegram to wish me good luck, so I lost. He sent another telegram and said, you can't win them all, so I did the same thing to him. When he run for president, which was 1960, he lost to Kennedy, I sent him a telegram to wish him good luck so he lost so i sent him another one you can't win them all kids that's the equivalent of getting tweeted that's exactly you just got fucking uh owned on something yeah form of another some form of social media that's pretty the wait is over so far you're not losing The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding!

The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me.

Leave her alone. OK, so, um. Not this is not a so. This is a period. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother.

That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I i have crystal ball in my head it's an all-new season it's streaming you can say anything judy justice only on freebie freebie great also while pitching here he ends up marrying a cuban beauty queen here yeah she was miss cuban carnival of 1961 uh z uh zidia balbu balbuena she's tall and gorgeous they'll end up having a daughter

well i know i can tell by her name sounds hot as fuck apparently she was hell yeah uh now they announced after this one game that he's going to be a father he says quote i talked to my wife today she is in cuba and this is the first time i know i'm going to be a father so i have to bear down harder at baseball i can't win them all can't win them all i tried sometimes you'll leave a kid in there just like the uh the fucking kingpin i pulled out really early on that one i don don't. You never know. I don't know how I got in there. I don't know. So he's going to have a kid.

He gets this year. He leads the league in losses again. He's 11 and 18, but he has a 345 ERA. So he shouldn't lead the league in losses. That's not fair. Doing well. Yeah. 274 ERA.

He's a cowboy. Almost threw a no hitter. He's doing well for himself. Nixon. He knows the vice president. He's fucking uh he's marrying carnival queens grace this is grace right here right he's got it all in the bag he's got it all god damn it no one would have thought this would happen he's only 25 years old too awesome

he's doing great uh problem is uh that marriage ends pretty quickly yeah it doesn't go that lasts very long he'll have don't worry there'll be many many more wives there are more oh he's always getting married and getting divorced and women like him and he likes women let's put it that way they love to hate him eventually yeah so apparently he uh one of the things that happened is uh jesus christ he loved cowboy movies like we said and he got a little bit too into them at one point because there was apparently it was a road trip here. First of all, he used to wear the cowboy shit everywhere. But he one time he is at home with his wife and he apparently got in a fight with her and he used his six shooters to both of them to just empty them and shoot holes in the family television because he didn't like the show that his wife was watching and he wanted to watch something else and

she said i want to watch this so he shot the fucking tv up with both of his guns so she divorced him that's a hell of a move that's crazy i didn't even know that was possible well i mean elvis did it but yeah this guy not for no reason two of them though not two that would be awesome pop pop pop yeah like you sit in your chair with two guns on you that's awesome i got two guns yeah one for each of you that's what he said you son of a bitch on a fucking to a game show i got two two guns fucking uh show of shows i don't think of a show from back then i don't know fucking uh to tell the truth that was one of them i know so two guns for eugene rayburn yeah all those shows by the way used to be they were all shot all those 50s game shows i just read

this we're all shot in studio 54 the fucking nightclub really that used to be a cbs owned television studio that's why they called it studio 54 used to be a CBS-owned television studio. That's why they called it Studio 54. Got it. And then when it went out of business and they sold it off in the 60s or something, and that's when they ended up turning it into a nightclub. Interesting.

So a bunch of corny, shitty, early 60s, late 50s game shows were filmed in the same spot where people were just doing cocaine off of teenagers while having sex with them fucking raw dog all of them all of them really weird people were having cocaine done off their forehead while there was cocks inside absolutely that's unbelievable i'm sure that happened so gene rayburn used to ask stupid questions yeah exactly fill in the blank fill in the blank like you have no idea what's going to happen here in about 15 years chief it's going to be gross there's going

to be awful things oh so bad so 1960 1961 in terms of cuba is when castro has kind of taken over the country here so a lot of things change in cuba and he does not like it u.s breaks off diplomatic relations with cuba um you know everything like that this is also when basically players who were there while all this happened were trying to get out of there and you know fucking get away and get back to the yeah they're trying to get their families out here um apparently uh pedro here is uh not happy at all mainly because he owns a cigar factory down there pedro's making cigars at this point he'll try to do this his whole life and he owns a cigar factory down there that he bought with his baseball money and now he doesn't anymore once castro takes over that is no longer his cigar

factory that's fucked up he's fucking furious about this shit uh yeah he said it was confiscated by the by the uh agrarian and economic minded authorities he said that's the way he put it the government yep and he said that uh he didn't know what castro had against him but he uh it was not made clear what the deal was basically they just took it from him. He says now he has to subsist on just his baseball salary, which is kind of hard when you play for Washington because this guy's a cheap fuck. And this place sucks. Man, this place sucks. So the team moves to Minnesota to be the Minnesota Twins in 1961. That's where they went.

That's where they went. Okay. Now, they thought about they almost went to San Francisco, actually, there. 1957, when all the teams were kind of seeing who was going to go where, they were courting Washington to go there, but he decided on Minnesota instead. He decides on Minnesota, and the weird thing is, so the Senators become the twins, all right? That same year, 61, the the mlb expands and one of

their expansion teams is washington the washington senators stupid so rather than making the expansion team the minnesota twins and keeping washington washington they move them to minnesota and fucking put a new team in washington welcome to the nfl cleveland browns what the yeah exactly stupid very very stupid so uh yeah that's how that worked the uh they're obviously the senators until 1972 when they moved to texas and become the rangers so yeah and then uh i don't think i knew either of those facts really that's that's a fucking weird one so first game for the minnesota uh minnesota twins, Jim Catt, who's an amazing great pitcher for years and years and years.

He was on the team. And he says of Pedro, this is day one in the clubhouse, opening day, quote, Pedro walked in the clubhouse that day in a full cowboy outfit with guns and two holsters. He pulled a gun out and was waving it around. And outfielder Bob Allison went nuts telling him to put it away.

Couldn't blame Bob, because with Pedro, those guns probably were loaded. I'm sure they're real, and I'm sure they've got, yeah. Wow. So can't do that. So, yeah, but this game, he ends up, this is the very first game in Twins history, he throws a 6-0 three-hit shutout against the Yankees that day, and 61, which is the Marist mantle.

Yeah, they were a fucking they were an absolute juggernaut that year. He shot him out six nothing on a three hitter, all singles. As a matter of fact, too, he said, quote, I got number one today for the first time. I think I'll win 20. Watch me. OK, all the fins, the fins, the twins finish. Not the not the fins.ish uh 70 and 90 that year they do have harman killebrew in the lineup and also a at the end of his career billy martin as

well came over for the 61 season there uh so this year though he goes he does 20 is in his stat sheet although it's 20 losses not 20 wins for. For the first time, he gets 20. It's just 11 wins and 20 losses. About a 395 ERA. So tough luck, basically. He's done 30 games. Well, actually, he started 34 games, and he gave up 39 home runs as well. So that's quite a lot.

1962, in April, he is traded from the Twins the indians for vic power and dick stigman so power and dick dick power got traded there uh it's better than if his name was dick power i guess so he goes to the indians that team's 80 and 82 that year some uh people in the lineup they had tito francona who was terry frana's father. There they had, who else here? Oh, Sudden Sam McDowell they had. I don't know. Sudden Sam McDowell was a 20-game winner who drank himself out of the major leagues, and he is the guy who Sam Malone on Cheers is based after.

Oh, is that right? It's based on Sudden Sam McDowell. If you look him up, he had a very interesting life. He was a womanizing alcoholic. 20-game winner, and he fucked it. He drank himself out of the league. All fucked out him up, he had a very interesting life. He was a womanizing alcoholic. 20-game winner and he drank himself out of the league. All fucked out. All fucked out. Done. All fucked out, man.

Also, Mudcat Grant was on that team. Just because his name's Mudcat, I had to say that. That's pretty fucking awesome. I think that guy plays in old-timer leagues. Mudcat? Yes. What about Catfish? I think you're thinking of no fish on her no i think it's mud cat yeah i don't know maybe he'd be he'd be in his 80s so uh with it was maybe

10 15 years ago that i saw it i'll bet it was him never never know here so cleveland in 62 he's 10 and 12 a little better 371 era so i mean his era is hanging tight. 1963 Cleveland, he goes 9-8 with a 3-12 ERA. I mean, not bad at all. 64, he starts out the year with Cleveland, and Cleveland's just not a great team. They're like a 500 team. But in 1964, September 5th, 1964, in a post-trade deadline deal, the Indians trade him to the Yankees for a player to be named later and 75 000 he's

going to new york so he's going to the yankees in september for the pennant run this is 64 they're close to the playoffs this is the last year of the yankee dynasty they don't win the world series this year but it's the last year after this is when remember i talked about the though in the bonus episode the horace grant you're not Horace Grant, the Horace Clark years. That's what this is entering. It's about to be. 65 to 75. It's about to be bad for a long time.

Is the dark years. Did he play with those two from those two dickheads? Absolutely. Wow. Yeah. I know with Fritz Peterson. I don't know if Kekich was there yet, but he definitely played with Fritz. He's on the pitching staff.

Absolutely. Yeah. They know each other. So he's traded there. He goes to the yankees he the yankees use him as a reliever and he is fucking lights out when he gets there i mean lights out no one can hit him he is like in 13 appearances for the yankees in relief he saved eight game uh eight games and had a 125 era which is pretty wild uh in 21 innings he struck out 21 batters with zero walks oh boy needed a metallica song he needed a fucking reason to pitch you know he uh

they end up going on to the world series and losing to the cardinals that year in seven games the ramos was not allowed to pitch in the world series because he came over too late in the season so the league rules wouldn't allow him to pitch in the world series because he came over too late in the season. So the league rules wouldn't allow him to pitch in the World Series. This Yankee team is Elston Howard, Joe Pepitone and his fucking wig, Bobby Richardson, Tony Kubek, Cleet Boyer, Tom Tresh, Mickey Mantle,

Roger Marris. So not exactly the old-timey lineup, but still pretty good. With him, they may have won. That's what I mean. You don't know. It's a seven-game series. That's what I mean.

So a little difference in the end of a couple of games. A little better closer, yeah. You never know, man. Wow. Yeah, so he has a great year for the Yankees there. Also, Whitey Ford's on the pitching staff. Mel Stottlemyre, Jim Bouton with the Ball Four book here. He makes $21,500 that year.

A mint. A mint. I looked it up. Inflation-wise, dude, in 2020, that would be $175,956.68. That's pretty decent. It's not great as far as a baseball player, but as far as a salary for a human being, it's damn good. Pretty good.

Not bad. September 1964, he's quoted in this article because he's known as a playboy, and at this point, he's divorced, and he's one of the single guys playboy with 120 grand he's a fall he's a back then though that was hot shit he had a red convertible he was oh he had a red convertible he was tall handsome athletic fucking six shooters dressed as a cowboy he got pussy back then let me tell you something well 1964 baseball digest this doesn't have a ton to do with him, but it's so interesting, I have to fucking share it with you guys. They have an article called, quote, How to Marry a Ballplayer. Okay?

And it's literally like a guide for women to marry ballplayers. How can you find ballplayers to marry? All this type of shit. What are their tips? It's crazy. They did a survey. By the way, what percentage of major league players do you think are married today right now right now uh it's probably a third

maybe i don't know 40 well as many dudes as there are and there's a lot that are young you're probably right you know i see like the older guys the older guys yeah they're all married yeah when they're once it takes a while 32 or something but he's 24 years old probably a pretty high or low percentage in 1964 83 percent of the guys were married 83 back then the guys used to retire when they were 33 so i mean this is all guys in their 20s are all fucking married wow all of them so uh yeah they it's crazy so 17 percent it was actually 84 players were eligible bachelors. So they made a list. Jimmy, here it is. A list.

Here are 84 leap year eligibles. Wow. And it's a guide for women. These are the guys in baseball to go after, and we'll tell you how. It's like the bachelor. It's like the fucking bachelor. They have their name, age by team. They have them name, age, eye color and ancestry so uh this

guy uh chuck estrada is 26 brown hair brown eyes spanish italian okay uh yeah so uh what do we got here scotch english uh french canadian jesus american negro they have listed as 1964 so that was projected whatever pretty fucked up they have german dutch they have like it's fucking crazy dude they i don't even know what to say about this while it's a guide of who to hunt yeah but that's fascinating too because you could show up to a german dutch uh like right to that guy, a French-Canadian, and you could be, if you're a racist young lady, you might be showing up to meet a black man. You have no fucking idea. You have no idea. This is crazy.

Here are the hints. This is author Herbert Simmons, Simons. Here it is. You can go, I don't know what this is, but go to camera days, take a picture with Tony Satriano, and find a husband. I don't know what that means. Become an airline stewardess. Mickey Lulich married a stewardess who lived in the same building as he did. St. Louis

pitcher Bob Miller married a stewardess who worked the team flights. Three other named players were all married to stewardesses as well. One thing, get a job at the ballpark. It was especially helpful to work at Forbes Field, specifically where two players wed stadium employees.

Become a nurse. Milwaukee Brave Joe Adcock married a hospital nurse after he broke his wrist on a pitched ball. Just get a hot. You want to marry a go to school, become a nurse and get a job at a hospital near a ballpark and hope someone gets hurt. Hope for the best. Hope someone cute gets hurt.

Hope for the worst. Yeah. Break a leg. Finger crossed. Break a leg. Finger crossed and shit. Fingers crossed. Oh, God. Get a job at the team's hotel. Here's one.

Become a model. Don Drysdale married a model he met when he took the team, when the team took Welcome to Los Angeles photos after they moved to the city in 58. You want to be a bride of a ball player? Be hot as fuck. do that be chosen miss somebody this one works even if you are quote miss cuban carnival because that's his guy there that's his girl uh become a ball player's relative terry francona's father tito francona married the sister of a minor league teammate this article is ridiculous it's insane get into show business this one was great if you ever

wanted to marry joe dimaggio also one player married a dancer he met at a nightclub whose stage name was patty wagon okay have a sister who dates players yeah this is that uh be the boss's daughter charlie kamiski's daughter and clark griffith's nieces all married ballplayers so why can't you it's literally what it says be somebody's niece go be a nurse you lazy twat marry a fucking ballplay don't do it for your own right do it so you can meet a ballplay then immediately stop being a nurse because you don't want to hurt your pretty little head right and break a nail this is the most fucking sexist shit ever it's horrible uh then they say they're all prime marriage material they say uh but are there any drawbacks and it says this they are away from home half or all of eight months each year though wives and

children usually participate in spring training sojourns in florida california and arizona and the wife may make an occasional trip with the team during the season. Unless they are established stars, their positions often have day-to-day uncertainty, and the anxieties of slumps can cause marital concern. They are continually exposed to the adulation of other feminine fans, which can cause even greater concern. Especially if they're in a slump. Yeah, they can get cut at any time and

lose everything and they'll be cheating on you the whole time while you wait for them to get cut and lose everything so go be a nurse so go to school go to school to marry one of these fucking idiots not for yourself unbelievable wild dude that's fucking wild become a stewardess on the on the team plane a steward maybe you can have your pick of what everyone's single. What the fuck, man? What the shit kind of advice is this? That was a whole article in the Baseball Digest, that was. Today, there are girls that go to like steakhouses and meet like rich guys and then get them to go get like courtside seats

and they make googly eyes at players. And then the guy that they're with realizes then that, oh, I'm not going home with you. And then they go home with, like, fucking whoever. Sam Murray. I know it's Murray. Whatever. Somebody. Probably still with Steph Curry.

Somebody, yes. You know what? It's still Steph Curry. They go home with somebody that's not LeBron James. Well, what's his name? Fucking films it. What's his name there? His buddy there.

Mar Odom? I don't know. Fucking Thompson. Thompson. Oh, yeah. Well, Thompson films it. No, you're doing good stuff yeah keep it up keep it up she's all fucked up let's say the sun dog's behind him keep up the dick all right guys i got this one so uh yeah this is a fucking disaster thing though that's fucking horrific yeah what i can't imagine it's so hard to be a person today they have apps where women can track where ball players are really like yeah where

it'll say like you know literally it'll send it out to all the people that subscribe to the shit that'll be like you know a bunch of guys from the toronto raptors just went to this nightclub so you can get your fucking shoes on and rush on over there and bag one of them. It's like, I don't know. That's weird. But then guys would do even worse. Oh, God, yeah. There's a bunch of hot girls.

Holy shit. And they're rich. Imagine if they were rich, too. We don't even need rich. Just tits. Just tits. We'll get in the car and drive for it. We don't need an app because we're just shouting it and texting it to each other.

Holy shit. All the hot girls are over at that bar. Okay, good. Go over there. Yeah, they all want to keep it a secret. We're like, no, no. Swarm them. Stupid.

Annoy them. Annoy them all. Really, make them not want to talk to anybody. Make them annoyed with us so that they get on an app and follow basketball players. That's perfect. That's what we do. All right, and break.

And go. So 1965 with the Yankees. This is, like I said, the first year of their not doing so well. They finished 77-85 this year, which is that they haven't been that bad probably since World War II, I don't think. And that was only because all the guys were at war. So not terrific. He, on the other hand, he's 5 and five in relief here uh 92 innings has a

two nine point nine two era so pitches pretty well for them uh now he makes twenty five thousand dollars this year okay he has some problems though in 1965 on november 5th he's arrested he does get arrested he apparently he was with a guy who had been being charged with public intoxication. That's what was going on here. Now, he says that he was only trying to help out at the request of this man's girlfriend, who he doesn't even know these people, even though he was with them. He says, quote, I explained to the officer who was questioning the man that I wanted to help. And then the man asked a question at the request of this officer. He says, then the other officer told me to get out of here.

And I tried to explain to him what I was doing. And he kept telling me, get out, get out. And then he said I was under arrest. This was in a bar. Somebody was being arrested for public drunkenness. His story is the guy's girlfriend asked him if he spoke English and could he talk to the cops? Basically, could he translate with the cops with this guy and explain what was going on?

So he came in and he says he was like trying to translate. And the cops said, well, if you're going to be in the middle, then we'll arrest you, too. That's his story. Who the fuck knows here? But he does go to court and he is found innocent on this charge of interfering with a police officer. He's found innocent. He says he was just trying to translate. So they backed up his story.

Well, yeah, the cops didn't know what he was saying in Spanish to the guy. Got it. So they said, well, what did he say to the guy? They said, we don't know. It was in Spanish. And they go, well, then what could he be? He could have possibly been trying to translate. But he had been communicating so that you could understand him? Yeah. Either way, he wasn't listening, but it doesn't know. It was in Spanish. And they go, well, then what could he be? He could have possibly been trying to translate.

But he had been communicating so that you could understand him? Yeah. Either way, he wasn't listening, but it doesn't matter. So he gets out of it there. Now, 1966, he has a son. A son is born. Pedro Jr. It's Pedro Jr., guys.

You know it's going to be Pedro Jr. Little Pistola Pedro. There he is. Pistolito. Pistolito Pedro. Oh, boy. So there he there he is 66 now he's in full blown now he's he's in a he's in a fucking comic outfit with two guns and a kid named after himself he's a mess now it's ridiculous so in the off season he works several day he works days at a public as a public relations person for Ballantine Beers. Really?

Ball players all had winter jobs back then. They wanted to make more money. And if you had a name, you could get a job. You weren't working in a factory. He's a public relations guy. I just got a call from Pedro. Can you believe this? Can you believe?

So basically, he goes around to bars and parties and gives everyone free valentine, and that's his job. That's pretty sweet. Yeah. They do that with that. I know there's a couple of wrestlers that that was. That's broad. Dick Murdoch was a rep for Coors, and he used to just take all the wrestlers out and fucking

buy $5,000 worth of Coors for people. If Stone Cold didn't do that, he's an idiot. Well, if they didn't do that, no. To them. That's a genius move. It is. So that's what he did so he's hanging out there so his job is to hang out in bars so that's what he's doing it's a

problem yeah uh also several nights a week he played first base for the national airline softball team really yeah which is weird for the beer league yeah for their softball team employees they would pay him as an employee so he'd be on their softball team. It's a ringer. That's all it was. It used to happen all the time back then. Corporations would hire guys like that. Softball is not a, it's a different pitch.

He didn't pitch. Oh. He says, quote, no pitching, just first base. Okay. He said that he hits with power and he said, quote, that Joe Pepitone had better watch it. I'm liable to take his job in Fort Lauderdale this spring. Joking around there he also says he loves in his spare time to put on all of his cowboy outfit get his whole gear on

drive down to the everglades to practice with his revolvers wow he likes to practice his shooting apparently which is fucking great he says he likes to go down there uh just bust shot i guess people do that at the dumps and shit like that. So he's shooting off, I guess, like a dump style into the Everglades, which sounds scary. Very Joe Exotic.

He could be killing anyone down there. Then he says he likes to just get up in his gear, wear his pistols around the neighborhood to the barber shop, he said. He said, this is pretty sadistic. Quote, the other day, i framed up a joke with the barber when the boy was shining my shoes i pretended to get angry i started shooting blanks into the air the boy ran away he thought i was using live ammunition he scared the shit

out of a child you would think that because he's crazy and he literally started shooting guns in the air because he was so mad about you fucking up his shoes and he said the kid thought yeah you probably scared this kid half to death how else what else reaction that's hilarious oh boy fun isn't it oh boy he's a crazy person he says that he gets to wear his two most cherished uniforms a cowboy outfit and a yankee uniform that's literally what he said he's a cowboy never been west of the mississippi never no he said quote i've always been a cowboy fan not the football team that didn't exist when he was growing up he said maybe from growing up on a farm in cuba so when i went to the yankees i asked yogi barra who was the manager at the time if it was all right to wear my western outfits to the

clubhouse he said he didn't care as long as i was neat and clean and the other players seemed to like it yeah they're like this guy's a fucking nut look at him this guy's dressed he's crazy you know he's a character look at this fucking crazy nut so uh yeah uh mickey mantle talked about his penchant for carrying pistols loaded pistols to the fucking uh ballpark he said that he thought it was great uh thought it was fucking great he said that uh uh that, quote, Pedro Ramos always carried a gun. And he and Camilo Pascal would laugh and rag on each other about who gave up the longest home runs to me. That was his thing there. But he always had a gun.

So this is Mickey threatening to knock a guy down who he knows is always packing heat. So 66, the Yankees go 70 and 89 they stink again uh they he's three and nine with the 361 era makes 25 grand that year again again uh but december 10th 1966 he is traded to the philadelphia phillies for joe verbanic and 1967 here he goes to the phillies and the phillies are not the best landing spot for him traditionally they've all they've been another club that's been thought of as a bit racist uh back in the day this is their former president speaking uh okay oh boy uh this is a guy named bill giles he said quote i've always rooted for the minorities i keep i keep telling our scouts i want a jewish pitcher and an italian fielder, just like Sandy Koufax and Joe DiMaggio.

Wow. Super progressive, obviously. Go find me a Jew pitcher and some fucking guinea out in the outfield. People like that shit. No fucking black. I didn't say that. Let's not get crazy. A Jew and a guinea.

Let's not get crazy. I root for the minorities who are very populative up here. Yeah. It's fucking, well, still not a lot. No? Yeah. And not in Philly? Well, still, either.

Well, in the country, anyway. Jewish people are like one and a half percent of the population. Italian people are five percent. Really? Yeah. A very small percentage of people here. But there, it feels like more. Yeah, yeah.

And we're all so loud, so you can double it for that. And they've got their own neighborhoods. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. We've got Little Italy there. It feels a little more saturated. Well, then how many Chinese are there? There's Chinese people, because there's Chinatown, too.

There's lots of those. It's all over the place. So 1967 for the Phillies. They go 82 and 80, which, you know, mediocre here. This lineup, who's gone here? Anybody decent? Nobody fantastic that was worth talking about. He goes 0-0 for Philly this year.

He didn't even play. Well, June 5th. No, he just didn't get wins or losses. Eight innings he plays. And June 5th, 1967, he's released by the Phillies. Just outright release him, which is strange here. Now, he goes the 67 season without signing anywhere the rest of the year. Before the 68 season, he signs as a free agent with the Pirates.

68, he's in the minors all season. I don't know what the hell's going on with him here. He has a 5.09 ERA with AAA in Columbus. He's going bad. It's not going great. 1969, he comes up with the pirates who finished 88 and 74 that year and uh we're a hell of a fucking team they had some interesting players that year uh they had of course bill mazaroski they got willie stargill roberto

clemente this is uh manny sangi and this is quite al oliver this is quite the fucking lineup here a lot of uh heavy hitters so uh but june, 1969, he's not good on June 5th. He is released by the Pirates as well. So he's having a tough fucking time here. And then June 10th, 1969, he signed with the Reds. The Reds pick him up here. The Reds that year, 89 and 73, Pete Rose is on that team,

a young Johnny Bench playing catcher, Tony Perez, Alex Johnson, who's a fast son of a bitch. So that year he ends up with the Reds. Mediocre man. He's five five era. He's getting bounced all around. October 29, 69. He's released by the Reds as well.

March 30th, 1970. He signed as a free agent by the Washington Senators back there. Back there again that now it's a different franchise but the same team he is one of only nine players to where the to play for both the original senators and the new senators nine of them nine players yeah don mincher camilo pascal and a bunch of guys you never heard of okay Hal Woodsheik. Ever hear of him? Never. No, exactly. Hector Maserati. No.

I like that name. That sounds made up. It's kind of a cool name. It's a real name. Hector. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Hector Maestri, not Maserati.

I misread that. I was glancing. So 1970 senators go 70 and 92. They're managed by Ted Williams, so he gets to get managed by ted williams which is amazing but he only gets managed by ted williams for a very short amount of time because he's released april 27th 1970 and that is the last time he'll ever play in the majors it's over so it's a 15-year career which is not bad fucking great that's way more than most people get so not too shabby to play for anybody that's the thing it's playing a great game didn't get to play

in a world series he was on the team but didn't get to play uh by. You know what I mean? He didn't get to play any great games. Didn't get to play in a World Series. He was on the team, but didn't get to play. By the way, that year the Yankees did vote him a half of a World Series share, though. So he got money because he helped get them there. Oh, God. But he wasn't allowed to play. He didn't even get the ring. No.

Career 117 and 160 record with a 4.08 ERA. Not awful. I mean, that's a pretty decent pitcher. He doesn't hang him up, though. He wants to keep pressing forward even though it's pretty much over. But he's only, I mean, he is not even 35

yet. So he's not like he's 46 or something. He goes down and plays in the Mexican League in 1970. Down there a little bit. 1971, the Atlanta Braves give him a shot signing him to a minor league deal and he plays with the richmond braves and the savannah braves and uh he has a 327 era down there in 77 innings but for some reason in 72 he is right back down in the

mexican league uh down there and then he ends up, the Mets give him a shot. They sign him briefly to a minor league deal, and he plays for Tidewater for a little bit. Has a 4.06 ERA in the Mexican Leagues, and with the Mets minor league, he only pitches 19 innings. But he has a.47 ERA. That's great.

And it doesn't work out so much. It's the best one yet. I know, it's his best fucking ERA. Now, he ends up managing also when he's down at the Puebla team, I guess. Puebla, the Mexican team. He is player manager at the same time here. He goes, let's see, 72 and 65 with them. Not terrible.

Never done it before. Now, 1973 and 74, he's down playing with the mexico city reds um he is uh 10 and 13 with a 391 era and 191 innings in 74 so that's a lot of fucking innings for yeah he's getting a lot of work in 75 he is playing for tabasco of the mexican league and then uh also the Mexico City Reds. He goes 1-5 that year in 38 innings, and that's about it for baseball for him, pitching and stuff. We move into his second part of his life now, which is cigar making. Now, as we know, he had a cigar thing going on in Cuba earlier.

He's still got his cigar business, and this is when he starts to pick it up after he's retired. He ends up coaching also a little bit in Nicaragua and in Colombia, and he's importing cigars into Miami also. So he's got this whole business going where he's making the cigars and he's importing them into Miami. And also, at this point, he's taking his major league pension which is he's getting about a thousand dollars a month from that so you know he's getting by in different different crushing it he's not crushing but he's doing different ventures and uh that sort of thing here um he said he moved around a little bit from nicaragua columbia all that sort of thing uh he ends up in

miami as kind of his home base. He uses Miami as his home base. He lives in Little Havana and everything. He's very much into the whole Cuban community down there. Yeah, that's a good after-baseball life for him, too. I mean, shit. Why not? Spent a lot of time there for spring training.

Yeah, why the fuck not? Yeah, so he did say that he was interested in coaching at the big league level or kind of maybe like helping develop pitching talent possibly and like, you know, being like a pitching coach of some kind. But he said that he just he never could adjust. He said and other people said to being out of the spotlight. He's a guy who likes the spotlight. He comes in in his full rig. The guys carrying guns. Yeah. Right out in the open bandoleros that's what i mean this he clearly likes to be noticed yeah if you put a fucking giant cowboy hat on yeah you're asking to be

noticed and boots right because he's tall as a tall person you it's very rare that you want to try to make yourself taller so you make yourself taller and then you put a cushion on top of that. Then you make yourself taller. So you have heels and a hat. I'd be seven feet fucking tall. If I, if I was a cowboy, I'd be seven feet tall.

Yeah. I would look ridiculous. Would I not? I would look like an asshole. Like, holy shit. Stetson would be shacks. That's a tall drink of water there,

buddy. Holy fuck. That's a lot of cow. That's a lot of cowboy right there so uh yeah you can put the horse on you yeah it looks like it i would look so silly on a horse you would look ridiculous i would feel bad for the horse oh it's just giant long thing on a horse it would look so stupid why don't you just walk run alongside it's stupid your feet are almost the ground yeah your feet are fucking six inches off the ground, dummy.

The horse is fucking sagging. It's not good. It's like an adult on a child's bicycle at that point. You look dumb. One of those things at the supermarket. Right. Just those little spaceship things that you go back and forth in. Oh, Jesus.

So at this point, he gets a divorce from his third wife. So he's three up, three down for this guy here. That's probably one of his first one, two, three innings he's had. Good for him. So September 3rd, 1978 is when his problems really, truly begin. And this is just a bad few years for old Pedro. This is what I mean. You have a guy who's like, like uh i'm friends with nixon

and you know i'm fucking like mickey mannell and like all this real like bullshit 50s americana crap ted williams said insulting shit to me and isn't it great and i laughed right well now it's a totally different thing here uh september 3rd 1978 first of all you can't get any different than the 50s and the 70s you picture them all 50s with the cowboys and then we're in the 70s with like a butterfly collar yeah weird right ugly cars with no horsepower it's bad stuff those flowers on your shirt look stupid oh very very so according to this here he uh is at a miami bar and apparently there's some sort of altercation and in this altercation, the police come. And as they're checking him out to make sure that he's patting him down, they find a gun on him.

Of course. An unregistered, unlicensed gun and a bag of weed. Oh, no. So he's arrested for that, obviously. They take him on to jail. This is a Miami nightclub. You can't just be doing that. You can't have drugs and guns together. and guns together no i mean everyone did but you can't show the cops yeah you're not supposed to so during this he gets very lucky on this one though because uh what they end up doing is they

defer prosecution and uh they do a pre-trial intervention program basically he has to go to a fucking 30-day course tell him not to smoke weed and they'll drop all the charges on him he said the gun was a mistake i forgot i had it they were like sure why not meanwhile you ever carried a fucking gun he yeah you know you have it never forgotten it's pretty heavy it's a big heavy lump not only that his name is fucking pistola pete right he always has a gun all they'd have to do is look up any newspaper article ever. They always talk about half the pictures of him or him pointing guns at the camera. I forgot I had a gun on me. Well, no shit.

You have a gun on you. You're a whole fucking entire thing that you do. I forgot. I forgot. Oh, that's incredible. I mean, you know, you leave the house. You grab your keys. Right. I grab, you know. you leave the house, you grab your keys. I grab, you know.

I feel naked without it. What is it? I put my jacket on. I thought I had like extra keys in there or something. Maybe some change. Turns out 38. You wouldn't. Listen, I've been smoking so much weed.

I forgot. I forgot. That's what it was. I put it in there and then forgot I did it. So I don't even know what the fuck's going on. I was more worried about all this weed in my back pocket yeah absolutely so yeah he ends up so he gets off on that one he's lucky good stuff i mean and he has a gun on him whatever and he has a little weed who gives a shit he's not hurting anybody he ain't hurting nobody robbing people at that point hurting no one no problems at all hanging out

in nightclubs with weed who cares uh about goes by, though, and it gets a little bit more dicey for him because this is crazy shit. August 2nd, 1979. First of all, let's talk about Detective Raul Diaz. Detective Raul Diaz, by the way, is a Miami Police Department guy here. He's a part of the Metro. He's a Metro Police Sergeant in the intelligence and narcotic squad so he one of his heroes as a boy is pedro ramos growing up he's don't meet your heroes mr

diaz yeah raul diaz is also a cuban and pedro was obviously cuban pitcher and he liked his style and he was just he idolized the guy he said he really really loved him uh he even saw him in 1972 uh he knew he was making a comeback and he had followed that and so he really liked Pedro Ramos well on uh August 2nd 1979 he gets to meet old Pedro yeah in a different kind of a way uh basically through the it's a big police investigation with intelligence and wiretaps and all this type of shit yeah and informants and uh through this basically let's let diaz tell it quote this is about uh pedro ramos quote one of my undercover men almost shot him oh that's not a good thing uh he said quote ramos reached inside his pants and took out a

nine millimeter automatic and tried to conceal it under the seat of his car okay as the cops were coming so they see you pull a gun out of your fucking pants he said he almost shot him uh but that's only we'll find out how they got to that here uh well he jesus christ they got a tip basically the police from an informant that ramos was part of a crew that was selling a shitload of cocaine. One of the guys he is with here is the brother. It's Ramon Antonio Albero Cruz is the brother of a major, major, major Miami cocaine trafficker at this point. Like one of the kingpins of the city, multimillionaire, big time Scarface kind of a guy so that's who he's hanging out with all right right away bad deal it's the guy's younger brother so um they get a tip saying that ramos and these people all

have a side thing going on and through they get another tip saying that ramos was planning to deliver some cocaine hidden in a cigar box to a buyer. So this Diaz gets a squad of detectives and they stake out Ramos's house here. It's on Southwest 7th Street in Miami. He said they watched Ramos and they watched his friend there. They watched everybody do their thing. They said after about 10 minutes of this whole thing, they went to somebody's house. Two men came outside

and got into the drug dealer's brother's car, Albero Cruz. He says, quote, this is the cop, Ramos was carrying the cigar box. It looked like a book. The label says Pedro Ramos Cigars. So it's his own cigars.

That's bad. So he gets out. He literally gets your name on the drugs hi yeah would you like some pedro ramos brand cocaine terrible choice you can't put your name on your drugs it's just not a good thing it's just bad that's not mine no yeah i used to wonder that back in the day like when i was a kid you know running the streets and shit and we used to get like you'd get like dust from dudes and shit and the dust

like everybody had their own like brand packet of like dust so you had like the red devil or whatever the fuck oh boy and I always used to think like wouldn't you not

want to fucking like don't you want this just to be generic put something to trace back to you like in particular I always used to think that like I didn't want to ask the guy

because I figured it would probably make me look suspicious I suppose there's some I was wondering yeah you know i was wondering hey just trying to keep you out of trouble man uh branding wise marketing i mean is this a smart play or what we're not just in the cola game at this point yeah that's what i'm saying to just we don't need to brand this up pepsi coke have a different taste we don't need the challenge let's

just make it all do the same thing to people we don't need the same color how about that i like it you know we're not we're not trying to be a better brand we're not we're trying to move some coke just fucking sniff it right sniff it just trying to move You don't want to dance around for a while. Don't worry about it. So this is a the cops watch these people pick up Pedro from Pedro's house that they had staked out. They're like, oh, here's some people picking him up. Here he is with a cigar box, just like we were told. So the detectives follow the car for about three blocks and they pull it over to the side of the street and surround it. One of the officers tapped on the window, flashing the revolver. of the street and surround it one of the officers tapped on the window flashing the revolver and that's when pedro tries to take a nine millimeter out of his pants and pull it put it under his seat

this is when the cop almost shot him for that because he's taking a gun out yeah you don't know if he's going under the seat or pointing it at you yeah i mean it's it's a fucking clear thing he's going for it so i mean yeah uh so, they don't shoot him here, luckily. He said, quote, Ramos looked around, left the gun on the floor, and put his hands up. And then he said he had a little.22 caliber pistol in his pants pocket as well. So, he had a 9mm in his fucking crotch, and he had a fucking.22 in his pocket here. He likes guns. That's crazy, though. He likes guns.

He doesn't like holsters. He just, like, jams them he likes guns he doesn't like holsters he just like jams doesn't matter elastic well nowadays it looks weird with the like western six shooter holsters hanging off of them you know it's not good it's got a semi-auto fucking over the shoulder or something you could go underneath and underneath the shirt right in your pants they got so many at this point you know you can fucking strap one to your thigh if you that's not fun though it's cool to pull a nine millimeter out of your crotch. I need to pull one out of my BBB. That's better.

Pow. What's up now? I need pubic hair hanging off the barrel. Yeah. I love in movies when they'll have cops just put their like- Right in their fucking back? In the back of your- No.

What are you doing? He wouldn't do that. Some detective, you're like, he's got a holster that he would put that in. He's got a nice leather one underneath his armpit.ly hills cop eddie murphy never had his gun in a holster one time he had a fucking 45 a giant 45 just in the back of his jeans and he's running down the street running back of his tight jeans just 45 back there what no how'd that stay no no no no not happening so uh put a fucking gun in your waistband it's heavy it falls out it's heavy and try running yeah run with it eddie figured it out it's a movie he can

do it eddie eddie's a special kind of guy so anyway the officer says uh diaz he had a little 22 caliber pistol in his pants pocket the cocaine in the cigar box was in two plastic bags this is not good uh they weighed uh the they ended up finding about two kilos in all here it's a lot it's a lot of coke because that's not all it's not just what he has with him oh yeah uh they weighed he had about a kilo in the car with him there and a bunch of cash and two guns which all look terrible together uh so then they take these people back to ramos's house and wait while other police get a search warrant to search his house there uh there they find ramos's brother uh who's uh there he's his brother uh julian yeah apparently it's his picture he's i think

he's el pitcher yeah he's four years younger than uh than uh pedro here also there pedro's 14 year old daughter oh no and his elderly father and cold ramon is also here sweet jesus so cold ramon 14 year old daughter all in the fucking house and his brother while the police bust in here uh julian by the way was like involved in the whole like his brother there apparently was he's also like arrested and everything so his brother wasn't an innocent bystander here but the father and the daughter by all you know stretched the imagination i assume didn't do anything wrong so they searched the house when they searched the house they find two more kilos of cocaine personal use that's a lot it's personally it's packed in a briefcase what do you think that briefcase says on it oh ramos cigars says just initials uh fucking burnt into it pr burnt in yeah it's you know like yeah like branded branded yeah pr that's mine yep that was

in julian's bedroom closet so he's involved also now diaz says he does this as the officer says he doesn't know why or when ramos became involved in the cocaine trade considering as of a few years ago he was pitching i don't know he's got three kilos in that's a lot he's been doing it a minute three that's what i mean three kilos in possession and he's getting picked up by kingpin's younger brothers to go distribute them he's he's in deep right now this is. Much deeper than I've ever been in trafficking of narcotics. He's not selling a gram on the corner. This is fucking hardcore here.

He's not trying to get Stephanie a little high this weekend. This is trafficking type thing here. This is a big deal. Yeah, this officer said that he's probably about three rungs above street level distribution here. So that's middle management, basically. He wouldn't speak to reporters pedro there uh yeah he said he wouldn't give police a statement either pedro wouldn't uh but other than the following here with the undercover the undercover who busted him said

quote pedro you screwed up and he said quote i know when i've lost a ball game that was his quote i know when i've lost a ball game, which I think is fucking great. Oh, with the cocaine in the closet right next to it also. 30 caliber rifle and a 22 caliber rifle, both loaded as well. Oh, no. So, yeah. All together, when they did everything and money that they had and everything, about $2 million worth of a thing here going on. His julian is an auto mechanic yeah and also apparently involved in the cocaine right business here the auto mechanic is a a close second yeah well you

know it's a night gig where he's moonlighting uh so they're each released on sixteen thousand dollars bail which is that seems low i guess for back then. For Miami? For Miami. That seems low. The charges, though, pretty good. Trafficking and narcotics, which is bad. Possession of cocaine with intent to deliver it. Conspiracy to commit a felony and carrying two concealed loaded weapons. Oh, that's not good. These are all bad. What year is this?

This is 79. Okay. Bad stuff. Or 80. I'm sorry. This is, let me see, 80 or 79 or 80. 79. Okay. Bad stuff. Closing in on some Reagan problems This is, let me see. 80 or 79 or 80. 79. Bad stuff. Closing in on some Reagan problems. Well, yeah, but

that's actually, this is, Reagan is what you want if you're a drug dealing scumbag, organized crime person. Reagan told the FBI to stop busting organized crime people. Stop busting them. They're my friends. They've given me money. Literally concentrate on street level minority drug dealers.

That's what he told the FDA, the FBI to do. FDA should do. Literally clear the street corners. Don't worry about the organized crime people. Literally told them to stop worrying about organized crime. Get the foot soldiers. Yeah. Not even that.

Just get me black people and put them in fucking jail. Gross. Yeah, that's whatever. But that's what happened. That's terrible. That ain't political look it up that's that's exactly what they said it's 35 years ago what do you want so uh yeah he's there now the charges like i said 1980 comes through here this goes through about two years of pre-trial hearings and appeals and fighting to get shit suppressed it's it's really a lot here. And he's out on bail this time?

He's out on bail. He gets a $16,000 bail. Now, the problem is, right before there's any kind of ruling on this, he's arrested again. Oh, for what? Well, what ends up happening, first of all, the search of his house is ruled illegal on that last one. They said it was an illegal search, even though they waited for a warrant.

I don't know what the technicalities of it were uh but it was ruled an illegal search and all the evidence gathered there was suppressed so does his brother walk so his brother's getting out of it uh but unless there's some evidence that he was dealing but his brother's getting out of it plus that's a huge amount that's two-thirds of the cocaine they found and two guns but he still has a kilo of cocaine money and guns that he was plenty of guns in the car, plenty of stuff in the car to get busted with. But that really helps him a lot in terms of like, you know, you can say you're less of a trafficker if they don't know you had two more kilos in the closet. I have one key, not three. One.

And I was just bringing it from one person to another. You can make up some bullshit. But if you had two more at your house, it's hard to be like, yeah, I was just for a guy you know just being a nice guy so august 18th 1980 here um he's got all this court shit going on with his major cocaine trafficking bust which is an issue and at this point he decides fuck this i need to go out and have a good time and he does and on august 18th 1980 in the middle of the night two o'clock in the morning in some miami bar he is arrested for threatening a bar owner with a cult revolver he's pointing a gun in a bar owner's face and threatening to shoot him repeatedly

over some beef about something we don't know it's the only gun he has left we don't yeah we don't know what it's over too i don't know if it's over drugs if it's over this guy told him last call we have no fucking idea price of these uh lemon cellos lemon drop fucking lemon drops are out of control out of control drinking lemon cellos in the club no no uh either way though that he sticks a fucking gun in the guy's face and you can't do that unfortunately for pedro it's not allowed i I'm not surprised. You would be, you know, you think you'd expect better from Pistola Pete. You know what I mean? You'd expect less gunplay. I figured he'd learn his lesson at least.

I've got new cases looming. Yeah. Oh, he does. So this year now he is. This is November. That's August 18th, 1980. This case is resolved on November 10th 1980 where he pleads guilty they drop the gun charge

and the deadly weapon and all that shit and he pleads guilty to aggravated assault which is a felony and he is you sir may fuck off 18 months probation so he's on probation at this point so he got some shit suppressed he got probation

for this he's he is somehow skating right now. I don't know how, but he's keeping himself out of prison. That is until May 24th, 1981, 1030 p.m. He is pulled over that night in Dade County. This time he is driving. He is three times illegal limit alcohol wise. Highly intoxicated. Oh, by the way, what's he doing?

Carrying a concealed loaded weapon as well. He is a convicted felon in possession of a concealed loaded weapon as well. On top of all of that and driving while intoxicated three times in 80, it was like 0.24. That's what I mean. It was you could be shit face. He was couldn't walk, I guess, hammered. And he's got a mean yeah it was you could be shit-faced he was couldn't walk i guess hammered and he's got a concealed weapon and he's a convicted felon in that so not good at all let's just say that here uh that uh the violates his probation like we said now he says this is crazy that's that was just the last arrest was a big mistake he says yeah well you know what

let's give them it in their own words. What do you say we do that? Let's do an in their own words. Yeah, why not? What the fuck? I think him explaining himself deserves it. In their own words, quote, it's all a big mistake. The gun was my wife's. She left it in the glove compartment.

They said I broke probation, but the gun was found after they arrested me. Something wrong was going on. I shouldn't have pled guilty. That was a mistake. The whole thing was entrapment. So he thinks he should have fought it. was found after they arrested me something wrong was going on i shouldn't have pled guilty that was a mistake the whole thing was entrapment so he thinks he should have fought it he thinks he should have fought yeah um yeah having a gun a concealed loaded weapon being a convicted felon shit face driving around i don't know what the entrapment is as far as they pulled you over for being drunk looked through your car after they arrested you they can search your car then found

the gun and then found your gun and if that's pretty i'm not like mr yay you know but that's pretty clear cut and dry black and white i don't know yeah that's just you served it up being drunk you were shit-faced yeah if you were driving around he searched you for no reason you'd have a case but you were arrested for being hammered that's different so uh anyway legal shit here uh he ends up pleading no contest to the concealed weapons charges. And this was after the judge had found that he violated probation for the aggravated assault. So what he ends up doing is he plea bargains because he's got cocaine charges, what he had in the car. He ends up plea bargaining everything together. bargaining everything together now all of his sentences it's up to the judge here but all of his sentences could total more than 30 years if they were run uh you know fucking concern uh yeah

so that's not great he's up for a lot of shit the judge though says you sir may fuck off three years in prison gives him three yeah so ten percent. Which is a kind thing to do. It's very kind. Kind? It's kind. Did he blow him too? That's what I mean. That's a sweetheart deal.

That's what I'm saying. That's a really kind sweetheart deal. And he had a lot of his friends write letters for him and shit like that. A lot of people that are very powerful in the Cuban community in Miami because he's big in there. Wrote letters for him. A lot of people went to bat for him. Try to say he was a decent guy

uh oh by the way before he goes into prison he does a couple of things because he's sentenced then he has like a little time before he goes in first of all he gets married because what's the crime and sports rule when everything is going wonderfully and splendidly and your life is fucking spinning out of control that's what you need to attach yourself legally to another human being well you know what there's no greater time that your life is spinning out of control that's what you need to attach yourself legally to another human being well you know what there's no greater time that your life is spinning out of control that when you're about to do three years in prison on a cocaine and weapons charge that's out of control and he goes hmm i'm making good decisions so far the last couple years why don't i just keep it going by fucking marrying this lady can you go three years don't fuck nobody

so hey let's be together i think he probably did too because i think you can get conjugal and that's that's why a lot of prisoners want to get married kind of smart i guess so you can have sex yeah you can end up having sex eventually in a gross trailer where other prisoners have had sex it's gross so that he gets married uh he he tries to get his wife settled before he goes into prison. Like, hey, which is a weird newlywed ritual. Hi, yeah, no, we're going to move into a house.

Let's get it furnished and everything so you're nice and comfortable and then I'll see you in three years. I'm going to prison. Have a good one. Enjoy that stuff. Enjoy. What I just did. Fuck it.

He's got a little bit of cash, though. He can afford to make the place nice because he's, I guess, been selling cocaine here. A lot of it. Yeah, and so he actually does. He is here with his girlfriend trying to get this house set up

and he calls a guy. He doesn't know. He never heard of him or anything, but the guy comes over and it's Dexter Manley, interior decorator from New York City. And he says,

And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here? Seriously, look at you. Oh, my God. You're dressed like a fucking cowboy. You are. You're dressed like I don't even know, like howdy doody or something. You're like a human Cuban. Howdy doody. You're white trash, sir.

I'm sorry. You're white trash. I don't care where you're born, where you're from. You are white trash. You're walking around with two pistols. What are you doing? Why? What is that? What is that? Just two? One's not enough for you? Just in case, I'll just carry this around, too.

You blame it on your wife? What are you doing? I'm disappointed is what I'm getting at right now i think that even people in a in a in a like a filthy cuban tobacco farm all dirty and tobacco stuff all over their face they'd be like look at him what a fucking loser that's all i'm saying you're a loser and i am just i'm ashamed of you that's it i gotta go now poof and in a poof of glitter and boas he's gone and uh pedro's very confused uh he's looking for his gun currently to obviously thwart the threat here because the president call him cowboy hi cowboy it's tall drink of water there you're a tall drink of water sir like a

pitcher and a catcher in the air so uh march 15th 1982 he's in prison, hanging out in prison for a while. He says, quote, they got rules in here. No shit. A lot of them. He said, it's kind of like spring training. Wow. Okay. It's one way to look at it here.

Yeah. He says he could get out as soon as November 1983 with good behavior, and he could get released even sooner if he can get a guaranteed job he said quote sure people will say i've got a record but i won't make any more mistakes they see what i did in 1979 and 1980 but what about the other 44 years of my life why didn't oj say that you see what i did in 1994 but what about the rest of it? I ran for 2,000 fucking yards. Ask Leslie Nielsen. I'm great.

I'm great. I'm Nordberg. What the fuck? Do they judge my whole life on two years? He says, quote, I think I deserve another chance. I know I deserve another chance for me and my wife. I could work with kids, tell them how to avoid this kind of life, to get them out of here. This is my dream, to get my life straight. them how to avoid this kind of life to get them out of here this is my dream to get my life straight in baseball i learned in russia yeah in baseball i learned you get another chance when i was a

rookie i was going so bad i asked the manager charlie dress and what can i do he says pete you might as well keep pitching because you can't go any worse than you're going right now that's how i feel now i keep going i threw a lot of homers in the big league, but I keep pitching. I lasted 15 years. I couldn't be two horse feathers. One year, horse shit. You can't say shit in the paper. Horse shit is any kind of baseball.

You suck at baseball. They call it horse shit. Horse feathers. That's the press version of that. All right. Wait. I've never seen those. Yeah, yeah.

That's why. One year, I threw 43 hom homers but then they gave me a uniform the next year this time i came into the wrong game at the wrong time now i'm in the wrong ballpark i would say i'd rather be in yankee stadium you're in prison yeah that's what i would call the wrong ballpark stop with the metaphors oh wow talk about wrong church and wrong pew you're all fucked up sir he says quote really i don't want to talk too much about this situation you keep doing it uh talking about his cocaine and all that sort of thing he said he goes back

and forth basically he says that the cocaine deal was a one-shot deal i was that's what i told you he said just bringing it from one guy to another. I don't even know what I was doing. I'm just doing it. Guy said, you do this favor. You make this much money, whatever. One last score. Yeah, one last thing.

This contradicts the testimony of the Miami drug agents who said that he was actively involved in the cocaine business. He says, though, quote, I was doing a favor for a friend. I was guilty because they got on to me but deep down inside i know i should not be here he said i know exactly what uh what i know exactly what happened but you just can't say he's saying because they asked him well what was going on with the cocaine he said i just can't say he says he motioned uh slitting his throat and he

said quote you can't talk yeah so basically i'm in here shutting the fuck up because I could have gotten off if I told on some crazy giant drug dealer. But obviously, I'd be dead. I was doing a favor for my friend, you know, an enormous drug king. You know, those people who will kill you in a second. He says, quote, I'm embarrassed that it happened to me after a long time with a clean life. What happens to me now? Yes, I'm sorry. And I'm not after a long time with a clean life. What happens to me now? Yes, I'm sorry, and I'm not proud. I just keep hoping the time goes by quick.

He said, I know I shouldn't be here. I know I shouldn't have lost my freedom, no matter what the police say. I know I've made a few mistakes in the last couple of years, but what about the rest of my life? He says it was a different Pedro Ramos. They arrested me for cocaine, but i don't even know what that stuff looks like well look in your closet and in your cigar box with shit with your name on it for three kilos of it that's a lot you can learn what it looks like by three kilos that's a good crash

course in cocaine oh three kilos holy shit that's a lot it's very heavy don't even know what that stuff looks like i don't remember if i have a gun on me wow i still don't know if the stuff they found in my car was real well considering you got it from a major kingpin i would say it probably is considering you're in jail for the next three years super real and where you got it also i'm gonna go with probably pretty real um i know i'm in here now and that makes me a convict but i shouldn't be in here no one should i simply asked a friend for a ride now he's saying that i didn't even they watched him come out of the fucking house with a pedro ramos cigar box tequila with cocaine in it and he says i just asked for a ride and that was in there i shouldn't be

here no one should yeah no one should a lot of people well yeah there's murderers and shit now that's a that's a it's a real richard pryor joke do you remember that joke no richard pryor had a thing where he said man for years man he goes man, he goes, I thought about it. He goes, prison. He's like, man, I thought about it. He's just talking about black people. He goes, I thought about my brothers and sisters that got to go to prison and all this shit. And I'm like, this shit is wrong.

And this shit's fucked up. And all this shit. And I just, it's wrong. We got to free all these people. And then he goes, and then I went to a prison. And I was like, there's murderers in here. There are real life fucking murderers in here. We need to keep these people the fuck inside.

He was like, change my mind. He goes, there's people that actually killed motherfuckers in here. This is a different story. This isn't like, hey, I fucking stole $5. There are murderers here. There's not dudes in there with a nickel bag of weed. There is probably. There are.

Right. But there's also murderers. Because we need to keep those motherfuckers in here so yeah there's a lot of people who shouldn't be in there at all keep these open there's a few that we could use that we need them for we need to keep them yeah dangerous people listen to small town murder every week you want those people out no any of any of our people there so i asked my friend for a ride i don't know why the police would want to be after me. The whole thing was a trap. Maybe someone was jealous.

They said I was a dealer. If I was involved in cocaine, I'd like to know where my money is. I have nothing. Well, that's because you didn't do shit. It was in Coke. Yeah, it's all wrapped up in all the three kilos of Coke. You had $2 million in your house, actually. That's where your money is.

You are what we like to call a cocaine poor. Yeah. Well, no, he's cash poor, coke rich. Right, that's what it is. He's coke rich, cash poor. That's the problem, yeah. You're coke rich. What you have right now is equity.

Right, right. You need to turn that equity into cash. Three kilos worth. Three kilos worth of equity. It's a lot of equity. Yeah, it's a lot. So he says, quote, I feel like I've been punished enough already. This place is no place to be.

I made one mistake and I'm paying for it. The key in that his lawyer says, quote, the key issue here is that there's great potential for rehabilitation. He says in parole situation, you are always considering the background of a person on the concealed firearms charge. People just don't understand. In Minneapolis, you don't have the same situation that you have here in Miami. If you go out on the street at night, you are risking your life here. If I don't carry the U.S. Marine arsenal in my car, I don't feel safe. That's his lawyer talking.

Pedro's friends can help him now by contacting the parole commission. He made a mistake. That's all. So, yeah. In Miami, you got to have... Well, Miami, 1980, that was like seal team six that's that's when there was like when drug gangs were having machine gun wars in malls in broad daylight because of it yeah well they watch cocaine cowboys and it's like whoa there was some serious violence

going on in the streets but you need most of the time though it wouldn't have mattered what you are because it's drug dealer shooting at drug dealers if you happen to be in the way you're not going to whip out your gun and shoot them five drug dealers with machine guns unless you've got three kilos in your trunk yeah unless you have two guns he said i'm not taking this anymore i'm all fucked out and i'm not going to take it anymore fucking shots up so uh he says that the only thing that helps him get through the week is this phone calls to his wife teresitaita, who works in Miami. So they were married by the same judge who sentenced him. That's nice.

That's no good at all. What the fuck is that? Congratulations, sir. Now three years in prison. Enjoy. The judge that sentenced the guy in Manitowoc married my sister. There you go. So she watched that documentary.

He's like, that guy sucks. That guy ruined my life, too. Damn it it he let me get married to an asshole don't blame him it's funny like it's his fault oh god so he says teresita visits every sunday from 8 30 to 3 30 they sit at picnic tables and it's really hot because it's outside in the Florida sun in Miami. He says, quote, it is inhuman, but those are the rules. I love Teresita very much. It can drive you mad. They punish a woman as well as a man.

So he serves as recreation supervisor in prison, pitching underhanded in the softball games and looking ahead to weekends when he can play again here and play softball and all that shit. He dreams of working for a major league team.

Well, I would dream of getting out of prison for now. He said that might be hard. He said, quote, some people will say I've got a record, but I won't make any more mistakes, I promise. They're called people with public records. Yeah, they're called people that read records. Yeah. Now they're called, you know, people that read newspapers and stuff like that. You know,

those people. But, uh, yeah, he says, I, I think I deserve another chance. I know I deserve another chance for me and my wife.

I could work with kids, tell them how to avoid this kind of stuff to get out of here. This is my dream to get my life straight. Um, then he says, quote, um, where is this here?

Uh, that's how I feel now. I keep going. I threw a lot of homers, but I can keep going. He said, this time I came into the wrong game at the wrong time. Now I'm in the wrong ballpark, and I'd rather be at Yankee Stadium, like he said before. So that's his line that he has here. So November 1982.

By the way, when he's in jail, they make a big deal out of the fact that he wears a Yankee hat that they made him take the NY logo off of because it's too divisive to have any kind of team. So he just has a blank Yankee hat on. It's an ugly hat. It's just a blue hat. So November 1982, he's allowed to leave prison to participate in a Cuban Old Timers Day baseball game in Miami.

There you go. They let him out for that. And he's allowed to wear his uniform. He wears his old Yankee uniform for that. And they all tell him he looks like Cuban Joe DiMaggio because his hair is all gray now. That's what DiMaggio, when he'd come back for old-timers days, he had the gray hair. That's not good. All that shit here. So, yeah, he does that.

He talks to kids. So here's some kid place facility manager. He says, quote, he's one hell of a guy he's been a leader of our program and talking to kids about what it's like in prison he's excellent with young people particularly all the latin kids we have in this area i think pedro has learned his lesson and would be an asset to any baseball organization if anybody has questions they can ask me about him because i met him once i him one time, and I'll vouch for him. That's it.

Now, yeah, his kids, he says that I tell kids they should stay away from that bad stuff like drugs. I know that now. He says he has a 16-year-old son that he says is even faster than he ever was. And he says he misses his daughter, was Zayda who was named after the carnival queen there. This woman, she postponed her wedding until her father can escort her down the aisle. Really? She was scheduled to get married there.

He says, quote, I'm only 47. I still have enough life in me to come back, but jail is just so terrible. It's especially terrible for a guy like me who led the life i led it's nothing here you're just breathing you're just a number three nine oh oh three three oh i used to be 14 with the yankees it's a little longer it's a little longer of a less hard it

doesn't fit on a jersey so easy uh now i mean obviously you feel bad for his kids and his wife and all this type of shit i mean she knew he was going to prison. She didn't have to marry him right then, Teresito. But I mean, a lot of people look up to him and all this type of shit, and now they got nothing. I mean, I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. Oh, sweet Jesus. All these people, but not nearly as bad as I feel for the 800 million Pedro Ramoses in the world. I just had to pick some that sounded fancy. So Pedro Ramos, chief executive officer at Somar Capital Management in New York City.

CEO. CEO. Pedro Ramos, CAPEX, Financial Strategy and Planning and Corporate Finance in Los Angeles. Pedro Ramos, group human resources director at Air Portugal in Lisbon. He's the only guy so far that doesn't have coke. Yeah, that's it. Pedro Ramos, President and CEO of the Philadelphia Foundation. Pedro Ramos, Exhibit Manager at Sands Expo in Vegas.

And Pedro Ramos, Logistics Service Engineer at Microsoft in Raleigh-Durham. So, yeah. So, he is let out of prison in 1983. There's some work release that he has. He's kind of in and out a little bit. They kind of bring him in. He says at one point they let him go to the doctor unsupervised. He was allowed to just take the bus to the doctor to see if he would come back.

I guess it's a good way to test to see if it's good for parole or not. If we're going to let him out anyway, let's see if he comes back. We know how long it'll take to get from here to there. Yeah. Check on him. He said it was exciting. He said he was nervous, and he felt like it was his first bus ride

coming from Key West to Tennessee or Texas, what he thought. So, yeah, he ends up finding a job with Francisco Fialo, who's a friend of his, who runs the Fialo Detective Agency and Security Burglar Alarm System here. Ramos takes telephone calls and operates the office when agents are in the fields.

He also says, quote, I still have my old cigar business, but I'd rather work in baseball. I'd be a scout or a minor league manager, probably. Oh, my God. He's a receptionist. That's what he wants to do, basically. Yeah. Now, 1987, he's back in baseball he's hired by the dade center it's uh basically he's to work with kids it's the coach's name is

steve hertz he says i've known steve hertz for a long time he told me he needed someone to help with the pitchers and i was available and willing to help out i am i've been looking forward to getting into coaching for a long time hopefully Hopefully I can develop our young pitchers. So they talked to him. He says, quote, pitching is really 75% of the game. My first coach used to tell me that there were 50,000 people in the ballpark, and all of them had their eyes on the pitcher for the majority of the time. He used to tell me, here's the ball.

Think about what you're going to do with it before you throw it, because once you let it go, you have no control over it. Duh. Can't go get it and bring it back. Who the you have no control over it. Duh. That's pretty. You can't go get it and bring it back. Who the fuck is he? That's Charlie Dressen. That's the old manager of the Senators. He said that apparently.

Not too shabby here. But this guy who runs it said that we are very fortunate to have Pedro Ramos on our staff. 15 years in the major leagues is something you can't overlook. His experience in this game will be an advantage to our pitchers. Yeah, okay. He's also in business. He began in the 80s producing a brand of Honduran cigars

in a small factory at Esteli, which is in Nicaragua. It's their third largest city. He is part owner and on-duty quality control supervisor. So he's running the fucking cigar factory here. The marketing of the cigars is under the label of Don Pedro Ramos brand, which is pretty fucking funny. I don't know if they still make them or not. A bunch of cigar magazines said that he had a problem there as well with the cigars.

A main point of distribution was a tobacco shop in little havana and apparently the cigar business didn't go well for him he kept having these cigar businesses that kept kind of falling out and he's had like four different ones so far well that fucking industry is so saturated it's hard it's hard cigars to work i mean back then it wasn't really saturated but it's still you make cheap ones that you can split open and put weed in them. That's what I'm saying. That's what sells. Otherwise, it's really hard to get into that business.

It's not a real open business. No. So one guy here in the 1990s, they talked about... This was an online journalist for SmokeMag.com. Jesus. for smoke mag.com he wrote that he toured the nicaraguan factory in the late 90s when with pedro here and he said that uh ramos was still packing a pistol on his hip around the factory and not only that they said that he would whip it out and do shit like that and for no reason he said it was largely empty on the day of the visit, but, quote, of course, Ramos spent a good portion

of our visit waving around the pistol he wears on his hip and telling stories about the people he has shot on a dare. How many people has he shot? Who knows?

A shitload of them, apparently, on a dare because he's in South America now and if you're a business owner in some of these countries, you can do whatever the fuck you want. You know what I mean?

Who knows what he's doing? That's horrifying. Brandishing a weapon is ballsy enough just to have it. You know what I mean? That says you mean business. You don't need to pull it. No, and especially if you're a 1980 in Miami hanging out with a major distributor's brother with a kilo of coke in a cigar box and two fucking guns on you, you were willing to use

those fucking guns. We know you mean business. That's why you're wearing them're wearing them so i mean a lot of those guys would shoot people all the time we have no idea how deep he was in all that shit he was just oh i don't know i'm so innocent but we have no fucking clue what's cocaine yeah i don't i don't even know what it looks like uh that he says that uh this writer says he didn't hang around long for the boasting session that he was doing because it was just fucking ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah.

So the picture, though, that he got was Ramos with a cigar in his mouth, a box of Don Pedro's in his hand and a pistol and a holster on his hip. Just because he's fucking crazy. Now, 2016, he goes to Cuba for the first time since 1960. He goes back. He had not been back to Cuba since Castro took over. Is it open now by this point? Well, you can. In 2016, 2012, I want to say, we opened it so you can go there.

You can, like, visit there. And now I know they wanted to close it back up again because, never mind. Because it's political. Yes. The embargo is lifted in 2016? Yeah, but it's so complicated now. Got it. Now, he goes there, and he said that he gets to be reunited with his memories.

He says that none of his relatives are alive that still live there or anything like that, but he just wanted to see where he was from and all that. He said, quote, I wanted to see my people and my land. No matter the years you live away from it, one always yearns for the place where he was born. He does that. And now a friend of his said earlier this year in 2020, quote, he lives in Nicaragua, at least for the last 10 years. Pedro visits Miami once in a while. We get together and tell many stories.

That's the other picture, Pasquale, from back in the day there. So that's what he's doing now. Cig back in the day there so that's uh what he's doing now cigars and guns and he's the same exact fucking guy hasn't changed can't get enough well he's i can't i want this guy he's like 85 years old now he um you can get an autographed baseball there's a ton of them on there i found one basically it's like 79 bucks is kind of the average price you can get one of his pretty great there was one like that was just it said washington senators whatever year that was uh like 50 bucks i don't know but you can get a bunch of pedro ramos uh stuff yeah balls try to find his cigars i don't know maybe there's maybe there's some don pedro's around somewhere if he's still running a shop or

a factory and he was 10 years ago who knows what the hell's going on so don pedro cigar we don't know but that my friends is pedro ramos and i've got to say a fucking hell of a tale yeah that's a wild story it's all fucked out it's all fucked out i'm all fucked out after that that was a lot to go from fucking 55 to goddamn now is a lot this is a lot of ground to cover. So hope you enjoyed that one. Jesus Christ, I really do. If you did, I just thank you guys. I don't want to say thank us. We should thank you guys.

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Keep the thermostat up perfect or else. There's some air leakage in the house. You know how it goes. It's fine. Your bill will go through the roof. It's all right, though. Get the double panes. You'll be okay. I never got around to it.

I apologize. But your house has them, so thank you for that. Thank you for that, though. It's very nicely done. Very well appointed. So we have that. Also, you get access to even all the small town murder bonus stuff. And most of the time, they're not even murder episodes.

They're like the prisoner dating game, the violent felon edition we have. And among other things, this week we actually did a little mini murder case. And so all sorts of stuff, though. Pretty much you get about four bonus shows a month, if not a couple more than that, but at least four. So thank you for everything you do there. Patreon.com slash and sports or for the five dollar and above level that's for the five dollar and above level very good jimmy and uh also with that if you just want to be a spectacular person just want to be a person whose karma is fucking clicking up and up and up you can do that you just be nice that's also possible to do you can do that over at paypal we will help you

cleanse your karma uh Go over to PayPal. Use our email address, crimeandsports at gmail.com. And that doesn't get you access to the bonus material, but it does get you a shout out and it does get you our undying love and admiration. So much. So much love and admiration.

With that said, I think it's time to give some love and admiration to people. I'm going to give it, Jimmy, I just have to start over. Give it to them so good that by the end of it, they're just all fucked out. Let's do it, Jimmy. Hit me with those names right now.

This week's executive producers are Yee-Haw, Jackie Sukup, Paul Ruwest, Carol Buonanno, Kevin Spilker, Kelly Mack, Tara Schaefer, Merle Carter, Liam Smith, John Sorensen, Joe Dempsey, Brian Close, Eric Whitlow, Crystal Emerson, Fabriazzo the Dude, Alex Hall, Nathan Holt, Sandy Tringali, Leslie Mitt-Kittrick, Randy Jordan, Adam Carpenter amanda nichols samuel lee hang in there man that what yeah the man had a fucking hell of a story keep going i hope we get to meet you one day yeah happy birthday charisma she's 40 jessica adams zach schaub uh regine or regina mont lewis uh jordan bennett christianne costaldi and shannon russell thank you thank you guys so much i actually have one here that I have to do. It's a guy named Nick Palmieri, and he sent us a message saying that he didn't know if he heard his shout-out or maybe he missed it or whatever.

So Sarah explained to him that it's possible that it was missed, but more than likely, since you have an Italian last name, you just don't recognize your new last name that Jimmy gave you that is nothing like your old last name. Daniel Palmar yeah exactly so nick palmiere uh patrion guy thank you nick uh george uh banfield's son turned 16 his name is padrick or patrick it might be uh it might be an irish patrick oh maybe or i think patrick is irish oh is You're right. I think it's probably the most Irish name. Unless it's O'Patrick. O'Patrick would be the... Yeah, yeah.

Padraic, maybe. I don't know. Thank you. He's 16. Well, happy birthday. Jackie Boy Roberts, Tiana Jordan. Kevin would know last name. Hannah would know last name.

Boston Van Landingham? Gore? Nope. Wow, that sounds fancy. Yep. Tavia Buck, or is that Tanya? Not... What have I done? Mark. Wow, that sounds fancy. Yep. Tavia Buck? Or is that Tanya? Not Tanya. What have I done?

Mark Gruber? Michael Scholes? Eric? No, Aaron Angel? Nathan C.? Callie Dixon? Christian Binns? Tara Hedges?

Tyler LaForge? Nancy Lodes? Leeds. That's Leeds. Sorry. Naima Shea? Danielle Tever? Jesse Valdovinos, maybe?

No? NZB Labs? That is what that is. Kyle Alcoyne. Nick's? No, Nick. God damn it. Nick with no last name.

Sarah Carroll. Charlie. That's Charlie. Sherry Coleman. John Cornwell. Vern Coffey. Dairy Public Radio. They're a podcast, I guess.

It's a Stephen King podcast. That's what that is. That's neat. Dairy, like, back east. D-E. Yeah, you got it. Not cow. Not from a cow.

You're on board. Siobhan Paymiller. Paymire. Pamire. J.C. Rob Holdberg. Megan Thompson. Jacinda Shabbat Moose.

Sarah Wagner. Is that what I think that is? Annie M. Nikki with no last name. Alexis Stubler. Stubler? Stubler. Stubler.

William Morris, like the agency. Emily Franz. Tanisha Reyes. Andrea LeBouf. Lauren Lewicki. Jamaica Mecham. Catherine Schubert. Christine.

No. Christy Morrison, Mastro Michaels, no, McAllis, Casey Trentman, Rebecca Haislett, Andrew Hesch, Joe Peek, or Pecky, Pecky, John Rudy, Jennifer, no, that's Jeffrey Smith, Nathaniel Russell, Mikkel Glidden,

Michael, maybe, Jared Hall, Michael Spears, Chris with no last name, Elizabeth Smith, Sam Bither, I think, Bither, Jan Olin Moral Nielsen, probably not, Jennifer Barna, Carrie Shaka, what the, Sacha Tella? See? See? Paul Smith. That's easy. Zach Neubel Welch. Jessica Hodges. Kathy Louise Zeller. Brett Kittle. Lynn Van Hoose. Daisy Valley. Valet. Valet.

One of those. Lisa Schultz. Charlie. No. Carly Ambrosano. Ambrosano. See? It's the Italian stuff.

Yeah, it really gets you, man. Her daughter beat cancer, by the way. It's fucking amazing. Lance Howard. Jamie Casper. Andrew Guider, Enrique Andrade, Carolyn Phillips, Amanda Weiss, Lindy Trofeter, Shemi H., Catherine Roberts, Garrett England, like Robert, Katie Oatley, Shane Klamner, Kasauri Merzouz. No, what is that? Kasauri? That's not right either. And then Carla Clark is turning.

I don't know how old she is. It's her birthday. Happy birthday. Jesus. I don't know. Happy birthday. Laura Hansen, Monica Hamlet, Zach Hartley, Sam Azzaro, Jordan Troop, Lauren McAdier, Jordan Troop, Lauren McAdier, Sean Carr, Alina Lorenz, Jamie Marshall, Danielle with no last name,

Tanita Brooks, Lauren Bedrosani, no, Bedrosian, Big Will 25. Can't lock that up. Jimmy St. Gene, Amber Kacam, Maureen Montgomery, Nicole Curtis, Heather with no last name, Hillary Blau, Troy, nope, that's T-Roy Weekly, Adam Kofnevec, probably not, Timothy Heipmiller, Heip, heep, Miller, Timothy, thanks, Kendall Minileski, Tom with no last name, Jacob LeBlanc, Nostico, James Murdoch, Sarah Shaw, Lindsay McGee, Jackie Taneski, Felicia Markley-Eristre, Rice-Stra-she's French-Canadian, I'm sorry. Taylor Cody would know. Well, that is her last name. Lisa Schmidt, Wes Caswell, I don't know. Adam Steele, Walter Seaford, Courtney Jacquet, Jackie.

Lainey Olsen, Lines by Bernie, Nicole Schoble, Patty with no last name, Combs with no last name, Greg Nesbitt, Greg Felton, I think, Jessica Fernandez, Chelsea Steele, Sarah K. Hamilton, Chris Drinkwater, Christy and Ray, Pete Marion, Arabella Caldwell, Abdwell abnern no adnerb i don't know man jason walker spinning out jennifer you got this jane uh chanterelle chanterelle bars that sounds like a rapper antonio frio sheila sheila sheila dirk uh katie embry uh brianna brianna Pugsley, Cariel Hays of Basin, Pat, Anita Cockapinny, what? I don't know, man. Abe Haddad, Carl Jones,

Candy Wilson, Quinn with no last name, Ricardo Saldana, Rebecca Zimmerman, Nicole Oldadack, Jonathan, no, it's Nathan Jammer, Caitlin Cipriano, yep, Quinn Curtis. Cat with no last name.

James Shanigan. Nope. Shaniger. Corey Balderson. Mindy Benton. Ryan Cox. Phineas Hall. Hill.

Shit. John Jacobs. Nope. Jackson. Ashley Risen. Rezan. Curtis Shuey. Nope.

Christian Urie, I think. Jamie Nicole. That's what that is, Jack Altomus, Andrea Martinez, Stacy Hambry, Brian with no last name, Kendra Newendora, Keisha Blocker, Michael Barrios, I think, Megan, Megan Bellin, Ginny with no last name, Eddie Sanchez, Ben Hoffman. Megan, I know that word. That's an easy one. Scott Barbic, Sarah with no last name, Chris Lemons, Allison Postma, Ethel Nazobi, no, Nazombi, Thomas Smith, Taylor Phillips, it's Mitt Yolo for Jesus. That's pretty easy. Scott Music, James Arana, Sean Hartley,ic castillo ashley blanton christina nope that's christy

stutz nicole sitta aaron uh burke jennifer visconti antonio mcdomic mcdomic god damn it darcy standifer standeefer jill knapp thomas crows uh ev Schneider, Liz Vasquez, Peyton Meadows, Tori Backer, Johnny Price, Tina Senengis, Carl Nagurski, Mandy Knight, James Marder, Sabrina Lupo, Ashley Bale, Reagan Heaton, Stephanie, nope, that's Stephen, Timberlake, sorry man, Jason Fuller, Zoe McGeechan, Courtney Petty, Holly Connors, Nicholas Barna, Candice Rude, Roop, I don't know if that's a D or a P, Rick Walls, Melissa Turner, Dylan Parsons, Rob East, Rock Hard Banana Hammock, 74. Wow.

You appreciate that. That is quite the candle. Courtney DeCorp wrote us a nice email. Thank you. Shannon Hagen, that's my cousin. Jesus Christ. Hey. Shannon, stop that.

Thank you, Rice. No, Ross. I wrote Rice. His name is Ross. He. Shannon, stop that. Thank you, Rice. No, Ross. I wrote Rice. His name is Ross. He helped me build a computer. Thank you, Ross. Jason Barron. Isabel Gutierrez.

Elizabeth Spearman. Donald Gorman. Leroy Jenkins. Sad Thor Blake. Alexis. Oh, Alexandra Macias. Shit. Brian Yoke.

Tyrone Bliss. Deontre Brinson. Siobhan McClatchy. Brian Yoke. Tyrone Bliss. Deontre Brinson. Siobhan McClatchy. Cam Bartkus. Fuck. Heather Ramsey. Kinsey Wells. Is that Nels?

It might be Nels. Shit. John Joseph. Janice Hill. David Guisto. Sam Jelen. Jacob Burton. Homestretch.

Damn it. Howard Sourd. Holland. Sorry. It's not it. Howard Sourd, Holland. Sorry. It's not Howard. Howard Sourd. I'm really sorry. Alec Bourne, Zorn.

Although, change your name. Howard Sourd is so much cooler. That's pretty cool. It's probably a woman, though. Zachary Hagen, Dominique Balsoma, Robin Anderson, Taylor Seaman. It's her mother, by the way, whose birth date is. Mark Schaefer, Matthew McCarthy. Thank you, Mama Seaman. Francesca, by the way, whose birth date is Mark Schaefer. Matthew McCarthy. Thank you, Mama Seaman. Francesca Rivera Diaz.

I think it was Clark. I don't remember. God damn it. Joanna Ahern. Joanne Ahern. Danielle Perry. Nope. Daniel Perry and Aaron Rulker.

Laura Eamer. I don't know what I did to your name. I apologize. Daniel Mark. Nicole Quintiliana. Selena Sajatovich. I apologize. Daniel Mark, Nicole Quintiliana, Selena Saitovich, Saitanavich. Oh, fancy. No, I did it terribly.

Juliana Colley, Travis Marshall, Ryan Ranieri. Nope. Jeremy Woodward, Jude Kendall, Carl Kirshner, Ashley Veal, Allison Harox, and Reagan Shalkley. You guys really change our lives. Thank you to all of our patron supporters. Thank you everyone so much. From the bottom of our hearts. It's really unbelievable. Thank you. It's incredible. Thank you for

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We always love to grow the show. So that's what we want to do. Grow the show, have more people hopefully enjoy it or hate it, whatever. It's not really our fucking problem. We just put it out. You do with it what you want,

I guess is the best way to put it. But yeah, thank you guys for everything. Thank you for great 400 episodes. That's fucking amazing you've uh kept us afloat forever what if these people wanted to keep you afloat jimmy how could they get a hold of you you can find me where you found me for the last four years that westman sucks wh isman sucks you know where and where you i am at jimmy p is funny or you can just copy and paste my name from the show description even though for 400 episodes you think you know how to spell it by now, but you know, it's there.

It's there. But thank you, honestly, for everything you guys do for us. We cannot, we just can't tell you how appreciative we are for everything, for your love and support. Thank you so fucking much. Or if you just hate us, but like to laugh. I like that too. That's fine too. If you just want to watch the show, but personally despise us or want to listen to the show but personally

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